1 00:00:05,054 --> 00:00:12,656 ♪♪ 2 00:00:12,722 --> 00:00:16,024 Bianchi: There may have been another killing or two. 3 00:00:16,124 --> 00:00:17,658 [ Door creaks ] 4 00:00:17,724 --> 00:00:21,226 It's something that happened, but it's not there all the time. 5 00:00:21,325 --> 00:00:22,459 [ Woman screams ] 6 00:00:22,525 --> 00:00:25,525 It's just like a bad dream. 7 00:00:25,526 --> 00:00:28,525 And no disrespect for the girls, 8 00:00:28,526 --> 00:00:30,627 dead people tell no tales. 9 00:00:30,727 --> 00:00:32,661 [ Woman screaming ] 10 00:00:32,727 --> 00:00:53,133 ♪♪ 11 00:00:53,233 --> 00:00:55,134 Welcome to "Very Scary People." 12 00:00:55,234 --> 00:00:56,567 I'm Donnie Wahlberg. 13 00:00:56,633 --> 00:01:00,034 For four months in 1977 and 1978, 14 00:01:00,035 --> 00:01:04,369 Los Angeles was terrorized by a series of sadistic killings. 15 00:01:04,470 --> 00:01:06,870 The victims, all women, were tortured, 16 00:01:06,937 --> 00:01:10,071 then humiliated in death as their nude bodies 17 00:01:10,138 --> 00:01:12,038 were displayed on hillsides. 18 00:01:12,138 --> 00:01:15,472 The press dubbed the murders the Hillside Stranglings. 19 00:01:15,572 --> 00:01:19,638 In February 1978, the killings suddenly stopped. 20 00:01:19,639 --> 00:01:22,539 1,200 miles away in Bellingham, Washington, 21 00:01:22,540 --> 00:01:24,739 a young father named Kenneth Bianchi 22 00:01:24,740 --> 00:01:27,740 was charged with the murders of two college students. 23 00:01:27,741 --> 00:01:29,343 The women were strangled. 24 00:01:29,443 --> 00:01:32,943 Could Bianchi be connected to the killings in Los Angeles? 25 00:01:32,944 --> 00:01:36,477 This is Part 2 of "The Hillside Stranglers." 26 00:01:36,578 --> 00:01:51,481 ♪♪ 27 00:01:51,547 --> 00:01:53,349 Davis: Dolores Cepeda and Sonja Johnson, 28 00:01:53,449 --> 00:01:55,048 12 and 14-year old girls, 29 00:01:55,049 --> 00:01:57,949 spent the day shopping in East L.A. 30 00:01:57,950 --> 00:02:00,950 Renner: They caught the bus to come back, 31 00:02:00,951 --> 00:02:08,485 and what they didn't know is that they were being hunted. 32 00:02:08,551 --> 00:02:13,487 They were motioned over to this car by these two guys. 33 00:02:13,553 --> 00:02:14,853 One of them badges them and he says, 34 00:02:14,854 --> 00:02:17,255 "You shouldn't be out here. It's not safe. 35 00:02:17,355 --> 00:02:20,155 We're from the police. We'll take you home." 36 00:02:20,256 --> 00:02:22,689 So they get in the car. 37 00:02:24,590 --> 00:02:29,791 Dolores and Sonja weren't in the habit of not returning home, 38 00:02:29,858 --> 00:02:31,757 and so when they didn't show up, 39 00:02:31,758 --> 00:02:34,259 their families are really concerned. 40 00:02:34,359 --> 00:02:37,493 Everyone's looking for these two missing girls, 41 00:02:37,593 --> 00:02:40,794 and of course, as the hours tick by 42 00:02:40,861 --> 00:02:42,595 and then a couple of days roll by, 43 00:02:42,661 --> 00:02:44,195 the families may not know it, 44 00:02:44,262 --> 00:02:47,461 but the police know that the outcome's likely not to be good. 45 00:02:47,462 --> 00:02:51,497 ♪♪ 46 00:02:51,563 --> 00:02:53,197 De Reyes: A 9-year-old boy was rummaging 47 00:02:53,264 --> 00:02:56,298 through a trash dump near Dodger Stadium. 48 00:02:56,365 --> 00:03:02,265 Renner: He walks up to what he thinks are mannequins, and they're not. 49 00:03:02,266 --> 00:03:05,267 It's Dolores and Sonja. 50 00:03:05,367 --> 00:03:08,101 They were victims number four and number five. 51 00:03:08,168 --> 00:03:12,768 ♪♪ 52 00:03:12,869 --> 00:03:15,769 Davis: The body of Kristina Weckler was found. 53 00:03:15,870 --> 00:03:17,003 She was an art student. 54 00:03:17,070 --> 00:03:19,669 She had a huge future in front of her. 55 00:03:19,670 --> 00:03:23,305 Renner: There were marks on her arms 56 00:03:23,372 --> 00:03:27,173 that were consistent with needle marks. 57 00:03:27,273 --> 00:03:29,506 Davis: She was injected with a substance 58 00:03:29,606 --> 00:03:32,073 usually used to clean windows, 59 00:03:32,074 --> 00:03:37,374 which caused her to go into violent convulsions. 60 00:03:37,375 --> 00:03:41,776 She was tortured. 61 00:03:41,876 --> 00:03:45,510 She was gassed before she was finally killed. 62 00:03:45,576 --> 00:03:47,377 ♪♪ 63 00:03:47,378 --> 00:03:51,112 It became clear that there was a serial killer on the loose. 64 00:03:51,179 --> 00:03:52,777 Meredith: They had been strangled. 65 00:03:52,778 --> 00:03:54,813 Martin: Some had been sexually assaulted. 66 00:03:54,880 --> 00:04:00,280 Their bodies were dumped largely in public places. 67 00:04:00,281 --> 00:04:03,481 Davis: Who will be the next victim? Where will they be found? 68 00:04:03,482 --> 00:04:05,882 Will it be someone I know? 69 00:04:05,983 --> 00:04:09,283 News people came up with a scary moniker, 70 00:04:09,284 --> 00:04:10,717 the Hillside Strangler. 71 00:04:10,783 --> 00:04:19,019 ♪♪ 72 00:04:19,086 --> 00:04:23,120 Davis: Serial killers are almost always one figure. 73 00:04:23,187 --> 00:04:26,186 One thing that threw all of us off is, 74 00:04:26,187 --> 00:04:30,688 a pair of serial killers is almost unheard of. 75 00:04:30,788 --> 00:04:32,022 A theory circulated 76 00:04:32,089 --> 00:04:34,022 that the killers might be in law enforcement. 77 00:04:34,090 --> 00:04:37,990 Martin: There was statements badges had been flashed. 78 00:04:37,991 --> 00:04:41,392 They were either imposters posing as police officers, 79 00:04:41,491 --> 00:04:42,791 or they were police officers. 80 00:04:42,892 --> 00:04:44,491 [ Sirens wail ] 81 00:04:44,492 --> 00:04:47,993 I mean the fear, the panic in the community was tremendous. 82 00:04:48,093 --> 00:04:49,994 We wound up joining with the L.A. Sheriff's Department 83 00:04:50,094 --> 00:04:51,527 and the Los Angeles Police Department 84 00:04:51,627 --> 00:04:53,395 to form a task force. 85 00:04:53,494 --> 00:04:54,693 We were defenseless. 86 00:04:54,694 --> 00:04:56,894 We were clueless, trying to solve this. 87 00:04:56,895 --> 00:05:01,230 I mean, we went through 10 murders and had no leads. 88 00:05:01,296 --> 00:05:03,496 ♪♪ 89 00:05:03,497 --> 00:05:05,031 One of the interesting things that occurred 90 00:05:05,098 --> 00:05:07,397 after the last victim was found -- 91 00:05:07,398 --> 00:05:09,032 the murders stopped. 92 00:05:09,098 --> 00:05:11,299 They completely stopped. 93 00:05:11,399 --> 00:05:12,798 We don't have closure. 94 00:05:12,900 --> 00:05:16,599 ♪♪ 95 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:20,201 McEachran: Bellingham was very concerned about these two young women, 96 00:05:20,301 --> 00:05:23,101 Karen Mandic, Diane Wilder, who were missing. 97 00:05:23,102 --> 00:05:25,736 This really had a note to it 98 00:05:25,802 --> 00:05:29,203 that really concerned the police. 99 00:05:29,304 --> 00:05:31,304 Reporter: The bodies of Karen Mandic and Diane Wilder 100 00:05:31,404 --> 00:05:35,204 were found stuffed in the back seat of Ms. Mandic's car. 101 00:05:35,205 --> 00:05:38,105 McEachran: There were large ligature marks on the necks 102 00:05:38,106 --> 00:05:40,039 of both of the girls, 103 00:05:40,106 --> 00:05:43,107 and which should indicate they were strangled. 104 00:05:43,207 --> 00:05:44,907 And it was something the police department 105 00:05:44,908 --> 00:05:48,607 put all of their energy to solve. 106 00:05:48,608 --> 00:05:50,308 Reporter: The first hint of their disappearance 107 00:05:50,309 --> 00:05:53,109 came late Thursday, when Karen Mandic failed to return 108 00:05:53,110 --> 00:05:55,709 to the local Fred Meyer from her dinner break. 109 00:05:55,809 --> 00:05:58,011 Which is a large department food store. 110 00:05:58,111 --> 00:06:01,011 Davis: Karen asked her manager if she could take a long dinner break, 111 00:06:01,012 --> 00:06:03,745 because she had a job opportunity that came up. 112 00:06:03,811 --> 00:06:06,213 McEachran: She had a security job. 113 00:06:06,313 --> 00:06:08,913 Karen found out about this security job 114 00:06:08,914 --> 00:06:11,547 from a former Fred Meyer's employee. 115 00:06:11,613 --> 00:06:15,114 ♪♪ 116 00:06:15,115 --> 00:06:18,849 McEachran: There was a note there that indicated 117 00:06:18,916 --> 00:06:21,116 "Ken B. Called." 118 00:06:21,117 --> 00:06:23,418 Investigators had called the security company 119 00:06:23,517 --> 00:06:27,418 and found out a man by the name of Kenneth Bianchi worked there. 120 00:06:27,518 --> 00:06:31,519 He had also previously worked at Fred Meyer. 121 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,253 McEachran: They also found a pubic hair when they lifted 122 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,654 Diane Wilder's body out of the car 123 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,819 that matched microscopically the characteristics 124 00:06:39,820 --> 00:06:42,321 of pubic hair from Mr. Bianchi. 125 00:06:42,322 --> 00:06:43,822 I charged Kenneth Bianchi with 126 00:06:43,922 --> 00:06:46,557 murder in the first degree, two counts. 127 00:06:46,623 --> 00:06:49,924 ♪♪ 128 00:06:55,325 --> 00:06:57,225 Burkhalter: Then last week, Kenneth Bianchi was arrested 129 00:06:57,226 --> 00:07:00,625 in Bellingham, Washington, and named as a prime suspect 130 00:07:00,626 --> 00:07:03,928 in the strangulation murders of two co-eds there. 131 00:07:04,028 --> 00:07:07,028 The Hillside Strangler cases we had heard about in the media, 132 00:07:07,129 --> 00:07:08,362 but it was not something at least 133 00:07:08,429 --> 00:07:10,962 that I specifically was following. 134 00:07:11,030 --> 00:07:12,628 It was in California, 135 00:07:12,629 --> 00:07:16,164 but our police chief in Bellingham was from Los Angeles, 136 00:07:16,231 --> 00:07:20,065 and he was familiar with the Hillside Strangler cases. 137 00:07:20,132 --> 00:07:22,665 He told me, "I think this looks like it, 138 00:07:22,731 --> 00:07:24,133 has a lot of the connections 139 00:07:24,233 --> 00:07:27,667 that we have seen, as far as the manner of death." 140 00:07:27,733 --> 00:07:32,134 Burkhalter: The young women had been strangled, the car abandoned. 141 00:07:32,135 --> 00:07:34,769 McEachran: And he started checking on Bianchi and realized 142 00:07:34,835 --> 00:07:36,935 he had been in California. 143 00:07:36,936 --> 00:07:39,635 He had lived in so-called Strangler country, 144 00:07:39,636 --> 00:07:42,470 the Glendale area of San Fernando valley. 145 00:07:42,571 --> 00:07:45,438 Burkhalter: A number of curious coincidences came to light. 146 00:07:45,538 --> 00:07:47,038 Among them, Bianchi had, 147 00:07:47,039 --> 00:07:49,272 during the period of the Los Angeles murders, 148 00:07:49,339 --> 00:07:50,739 lived in a Glendale apartment building 149 00:07:50,839 --> 00:07:54,241 where one Hillside Strangler victim also lived, 150 00:07:54,341 --> 00:07:56,940 across the street from where another victim lived. 151 00:07:56,941 --> 00:08:01,341 ♪♪ 152 00:08:01,342 --> 00:08:02,942 McEachran: We went into his background, 153 00:08:02,943 --> 00:08:06,244 and we sent officers immediately out to Rochester, New York, 154 00:08:06,344 --> 00:08:08,843 where he was from. 155 00:08:08,944 --> 00:08:11,678 To say that Kenneth Bianchi had a troubled childhood 156 00:08:11,744 --> 00:08:13,579 is putting it mildly. 157 00:08:13,678 --> 00:08:17,545 Bianchi's biological mother was a sex worker. 158 00:08:17,546 --> 00:08:21,246 Broberg: His birth mother is very young when she gives birth to him. 159 00:08:21,247 --> 00:08:25,148 She very quickly realizes she can't take care of Kenneth, 160 00:08:25,249 --> 00:08:27,182 and then moves through the adoption, 161 00:08:27,249 --> 00:08:31,383 and the Bianchis come into the situation. 162 00:08:31,450 --> 00:08:34,584 The Bianchis then have their own interesting dynamic. 163 00:08:34,684 --> 00:08:37,350 Kenneth's mother is the domineering personality. 164 00:08:37,351 --> 00:08:40,252 The father plays a very submissive role. 165 00:08:40,352 --> 00:08:43,786 His mother was overprotective. 166 00:08:43,852 --> 00:08:47,687 When we looked at some of the records from schools 167 00:08:47,753 --> 00:08:49,288 that Bianchi attended, 168 00:08:49,354 --> 00:08:53,588 you can see references made to chronic lying. 169 00:08:53,689 --> 00:08:58,357 He lied when there was no good reason to lie. 170 00:08:58,457 --> 00:09:00,691 Schlesinger: When Bianchi was 12, he got in trouble 171 00:09:00,757 --> 00:09:03,057 for pulling down a young girl's pants. 172 00:09:03,058 --> 00:09:07,858 All young boys have sexual interests at 12-13 years old, 173 00:09:07,959 --> 00:09:09,459 but he acted on it. 174 00:09:09,560 --> 00:09:11,593 Most young boys don't do that. 175 00:09:11,693 --> 00:09:13,594 Bianchi did do that. 176 00:09:13,660 --> 00:09:16,361 Notwithstanding Bianchi being fairly bright, 177 00:09:16,461 --> 00:09:18,561 he couldn't get along with the teachers. 178 00:09:18,562 --> 00:09:22,796 He is an individual who wants to be dominant and in control, 179 00:09:22,862 --> 00:09:26,297 and he wants to see other people as submissive -- 180 00:09:26,364 --> 00:09:28,564 submissive to him. 181 00:09:28,565 --> 00:09:32,564 On the surface, though, Bianchi could appear normal. 182 00:09:32,565 --> 00:09:36,400 Schlesinger: He's a handsome guy. He's well-spoken. 183 00:09:36,466 --> 00:09:38,700 Davis: As a teen, he even dated quite a bit. 184 00:09:38,766 --> 00:09:41,168 He met a girl and married her right out of high school. 185 00:09:41,268 --> 00:09:43,568 She left him almost immediately. 186 00:09:43,569 --> 00:09:47,168 There's little information about her reason for leaving. 187 00:09:47,169 --> 00:09:49,403 Either way, Bianchi thought of the future 188 00:09:49,470 --> 00:09:54,370 and had a conventional view of what he wanted to do. 189 00:09:54,371 --> 00:09:56,405 Schlesinger: Bianchi wanted to be in authority. 190 00:09:56,472 --> 00:10:00,205 He wanted a job in authority, a police officer. 191 00:10:00,273 --> 00:10:02,173 Bianchi never made the cut to join the force, 192 00:10:02,273 --> 00:10:04,106 so he did the next best thing. 193 00:10:04,174 --> 00:10:06,373 He became a security guard. 194 00:10:06,374 --> 00:10:09,008 McEachran: And his fellow employees and coworkers 195 00:10:09,075 --> 00:10:10,708 thought he was a nice guy. 196 00:10:10,774 --> 00:10:12,774 Schlesinger: He's smooth and manipulative, 197 00:10:12,775 --> 00:10:16,210 and so he has a good ability to put people at ease. 198 00:10:16,277 --> 00:10:21,811 And so the disturbance is masked and covered up. 199 00:10:21,877 --> 00:10:24,378 That was, until he was caught stealing 200 00:10:24,379 --> 00:10:27,113 from the stores he was hired to protect, 201 00:10:27,179 --> 00:10:30,113 so he decided to make a change. 202 00:10:30,180 --> 00:10:33,714 He decided, "Hey, I'm going to go out to L.A. 203 00:10:33,780 --> 00:10:37,315 I'm going to change my life, see my cousin." 204 00:10:37,382 --> 00:10:38,781 And sure enough, that's what he did. 205 00:10:38,882 --> 00:10:40,616 He moved out to Glendale, California, 206 00:10:40,682 --> 00:10:43,716 and moved in with Angelo Buono, who was his role model. 207 00:10:43,782 --> 00:10:46,084 And that's when the real trouble began. 208 00:10:46,184 --> 00:10:54,186 ♪♪ 209 00:10:56,786 --> 00:10:58,886 Kenneth Bianchi told detectives he had nothing to do 210 00:10:58,987 --> 00:11:02,387 with the Hillside Stranglings down in Los Angeles, 211 00:11:02,388 --> 00:11:04,388 let alone the murders of Diane Wilder 212 00:11:04,389 --> 00:11:06,923 and Karen Mandic up in Washington. 213 00:11:06,990 --> 00:11:09,788 De Reyes: His girlfriend, Kelli Boyd, was raising their infant son 214 00:11:09,789 --> 00:11:12,091 and didn't know what to think. 215 00:11:12,191 --> 00:11:16,225 And he begins this process of writing to her, saying, 216 00:11:16,292 --> 00:11:17,825 "It's not true." 217 00:11:17,892 --> 00:11:20,926 De Reyes: "It takes a real maniac to do what was done. 218 00:11:20,993 --> 00:11:22,293 God forgive him." 219 00:11:22,294 --> 00:11:23,892 Broberg: And it continued on, 220 00:11:23,893 --> 00:11:28,628 his ongoing belief that he was innocent. 221 00:11:28,728 --> 00:11:31,295 Davis: As L.A. detectives continued to investigate 222 00:11:31,296 --> 00:11:33,229 Bianchi for the Hillside Stranglings, 223 00:11:33,296 --> 00:11:37,830 the evidence in the Washington murders continued to mount. 224 00:11:37,896 --> 00:11:41,198 Once we reached a point where I felt all the evidence showed 225 00:11:41,298 --> 00:11:48,399 clearly that Bianchi had killed both of these young women, 226 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,834 I filed for the death penalty, 227 00:11:51,900 --> 00:11:55,035 and I'd notified the defense attorney. 228 00:11:55,102 --> 00:11:57,502 The same day, he claimed that Mr. Bianchi 229 00:11:57,602 --> 00:12:00,002 was a multiple personality. 230 00:12:00,003 --> 00:12:01,603 Schulman: He is in custody in Washington, 231 00:12:01,604 --> 00:12:04,103 where he pleaded innocent by reason of insanity 232 00:12:04,104 --> 00:12:07,338 to two counts of murder. 233 00:12:07,405 --> 00:12:10,639 Allnate: Bianchi was examined by a series of court-appointed psychiatrists 234 00:12:10,739 --> 00:12:14,039 who recorded their sessions on video tape. 235 00:12:14,107 --> 00:12:17,040 I just can't imagine killing anybody... 236 00:12:17,107 --> 00:12:19,241 ♪♪ 237 00:12:19,308 --> 00:12:22,009 Taking life. 238 00:12:22,108 --> 00:12:23,707 Allnate: Two of the doctors reported that Bianchi 239 00:12:23,708 --> 00:12:25,909 suffered from multiple or split personalities. 240 00:12:26,009 --> 00:12:27,409 They said the murders were committed 241 00:12:27,410 --> 00:12:28,843 by one of the hidden personalities 242 00:12:28,909 --> 00:12:30,809 who called himself Steve Walker, 243 00:12:30,810 --> 00:12:32,744 a personality which allegedly surfaced 244 00:12:32,810 --> 00:12:35,810 when Bianchi was hypnotized. 245 00:12:35,811 --> 00:12:38,146 Psychiatrist: Okay, I'm gonna start counting... 246 00:12:38,213 --> 00:12:41,646 25, 26, 27... 247 00:12:41,747 --> 00:12:44,413 And now I wanna talk to Steve. 248 00:12:44,414 --> 00:12:46,215 What's your name? 249 00:12:46,315 --> 00:12:47,415 Steve. 250 00:12:47,515 --> 00:12:48,648 What's your last name? 251 00:12:48,749 --> 00:12:52,016 You, you're the [bleep] 252 00:12:52,116 --> 00:12:55,750 that's been trying to get me to leave him. 253 00:12:55,816 --> 00:12:59,051 Broberg: So when Steve, one of his personalities, 254 00:12:59,118 --> 00:13:02,852 comes out, he confesses to all sorts 255 00:13:02,918 --> 00:13:05,219 of criminal type of behavior. 256 00:13:05,220 --> 00:13:09,054 I [bleep] killed those broads, you know, to smart him up, 257 00:13:09,121 --> 00:13:12,321 to show him that he couldn't push me [bleep] around. 258 00:13:12,422 --> 00:13:13,521 Here in Bellingham? 259 00:13:13,522 --> 00:13:15,021 That's right. 260 00:13:15,022 --> 00:13:18,756 Strangled 'em, it's [bleep] plain as that. 261 00:13:18,822 --> 00:13:21,857 Strangled them with a [bleep] cord, nothing to it. 262 00:13:21,923 --> 00:13:26,924 The name Stephen Walker was a name that interested us. 263 00:13:27,025 --> 00:13:30,924 We had taken a briefcase when Mr. Bianchi was arrested, 264 00:13:30,925 --> 00:13:33,026 and in the briefcase, there were papers showing 265 00:13:33,027 --> 00:13:35,660 that he had a degree in psychology 266 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,028 and that he had gone to Pepperdine. 267 00:13:38,128 --> 00:13:40,261 We checked with Pepperdine, and he was not a student. 268 00:13:40,329 --> 00:13:43,862 But we had transcripts for Thomas Stephen Walker, 269 00:13:43,928 --> 00:13:47,230 and he had graduated from Pepperdine. 270 00:13:47,330 --> 00:13:50,031 He had a degree in psychology. 271 00:13:50,131 --> 00:13:53,665 And he had responded to an advertisement in the paper 272 00:13:53,731 --> 00:13:57,166 in Los Angeles in which a psychologist 273 00:13:57,233 --> 00:14:00,367 was asking to have someone join his practice 274 00:14:00,434 --> 00:14:03,932 and invited the people to send in transcripts. 275 00:14:03,933 --> 00:14:07,834 The so-called psychologist who wanted the transcripts 276 00:14:07,935 --> 00:14:09,536 was Kenneth Bianchi. 277 00:14:09,636 --> 00:14:11,469 He was pretending to be a psychologist, 278 00:14:11,537 --> 00:14:14,670 and that's where Walker sent his transcripts. 279 00:14:14,770 --> 00:14:16,238 McEachran: Bianchi changed the names 280 00:14:16,338 --> 00:14:19,339 and put "Kenneth Bianchi" in the names on the transcripts 281 00:14:19,438 --> 00:14:23,539 and started a scam psychological business. 282 00:14:23,540 --> 00:14:26,673 Psychiatrist: Up here in Bellingham, 283 00:14:26,773 --> 00:14:28,840 what did Steve do up here? 284 00:14:28,940 --> 00:14:34,441 Okay, Steve up here lured and killed the two girls. 285 00:14:34,442 --> 00:14:37,176 We felt that the interviews 286 00:14:37,243 --> 00:14:41,243 really were perpetuating this scam that Mr. Bianchi 287 00:14:41,244 --> 00:14:43,245 was trying to present. 288 00:14:43,345 --> 00:14:45,843 In one session, the psychologist urges Bianchi 289 00:14:45,844 --> 00:14:49,346 to engage his alter ego in a dialogue. 290 00:14:49,446 --> 00:14:51,447 You keep saying I killed those girls. 291 00:14:51,546 --> 00:14:55,348 I didn't, you did. 292 00:14:55,447 --> 00:14:56,647 It was me. 293 00:14:56,648 --> 00:14:58,547 I'm the one that's getting the blame. 294 00:14:58,548 --> 00:15:03,049 ♪♪ 295 00:15:03,050 --> 00:15:05,349 You just don't understand, you know, 296 00:15:05,350 --> 00:15:09,051 what happens to me is gonna happen to you. 297 00:15:11,152 --> 00:15:13,052 Schlesinger: They also brought in Dr. Orne, 298 00:15:13,152 --> 00:15:15,686 who is really an expert on hypnosis 299 00:15:15,786 --> 00:15:18,653 and dissociative identity disorder. 300 00:15:18,654 --> 00:15:20,187 McEachran: Dr. Orne told me, 301 00:15:20,254 --> 00:15:21,953 "Look, I've looked at the video tapes. 302 00:15:22,055 --> 00:15:25,155 I'll tell you what, I think he's simulating hypnosis." 303 00:15:25,255 --> 00:15:28,155 Schlesinger: The psychologist suggested to Bianchi 304 00:15:28,156 --> 00:15:30,990 that most people that have multiple personality disorders 305 00:15:31,057 --> 00:15:33,457 have more than one personality. 306 00:15:33,557 --> 00:15:36,657 And lo and behold, there's a new personality 307 00:15:36,658 --> 00:15:38,657 that Bianchi comes out with. 308 00:15:38,658 --> 00:15:40,159 Dr. Allison: Come on, Billy. 309 00:15:40,259 --> 00:15:42,059 Come on, Billy. 310 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,093 Now is not the time to be shy. 311 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,061 Dr. Allison, nice to meet you. 312 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,260 You have not seen me before, have you? 313 00:15:48,261 --> 00:15:49,395 No, sir. 314 00:15:49,461 --> 00:15:52,861 Right from the jump, it was a bad performance. 315 00:15:52,961 --> 00:15:58,064 As I count backwards from 5 to 1, you'll be awake. 316 00:15:58,163 --> 00:16:01,964 Anyone who knows anything about multiple personality disorder, 317 00:16:02,064 --> 00:16:04,464 this is just a cheap acting job. 318 00:16:04,465 --> 00:16:07,165 And it really underlined the fact that this was a scam, 319 00:16:07,166 --> 00:16:11,100 and we thought we'd be able to wrestle him down in a trial. 320 00:16:11,167 --> 00:16:15,068 But investigators were working hard to try to tie him 321 00:16:15,168 --> 00:16:18,468 to the Hillside Stranglings in L.A. 322 00:16:18,469 --> 00:16:21,868 They were asking about these cases in California, 323 00:16:21,869 --> 00:16:23,669 and we had made enough of a connection there 324 00:16:23,670 --> 00:16:27,869 that I'm sure he realized that was a real problem for him. 325 00:16:27,870 --> 00:16:30,405 This is probably the major break in the case. 326 00:16:30,472 --> 00:16:32,870 Let's go on listing the kinds of activities 327 00:16:32,871 --> 00:16:35,473 Steve was involved in, in Los Angeles. 328 00:16:35,573 --> 00:16:37,173 The killings of the girls. 329 00:16:37,273 --> 00:16:45,274 The killings of the girls to get not only sexual gratification, 330 00:16:45,275 --> 00:16:48,275 but also it gave a personal sense 331 00:16:48,276 --> 00:16:55,711 of stimulation or excitement. 332 00:16:55,811 --> 00:17:05,314 ♪♪ 333 00:17:05,380 --> 00:17:07,714 He was trying to use a multiple personality 334 00:17:07,814 --> 00:17:12,015 as a defense to anything that would come up there also. 335 00:17:12,082 --> 00:17:14,183 He said to detectives, "I'll tell you what. 336 00:17:14,283 --> 00:17:15,583 I'll turn state's witness, 337 00:17:15,683 --> 00:17:17,982 and I'll tell you who the other strangler was. 338 00:17:17,983 --> 00:17:22,584 It was my cousin, Angelo Buono." 339 00:17:22,585 --> 00:17:24,384 Psychiatrist: Why did Angelo kill any girls? 340 00:17:24,385 --> 00:17:26,719 What did he have against them? 341 00:17:26,785 --> 00:17:30,587 I dunno, man. You know, he just... 342 00:17:30,687 --> 00:17:33,886 He was just an easy guy to get with the program, you know? 343 00:17:33,887 --> 00:17:37,389 I gave him the idea, and he went with it all the way. 344 00:17:37,489 --> 00:17:39,389 Did you watch him kill them all? 345 00:17:39,490 --> 00:17:41,590 You bet I did, strangled them all. 346 00:17:41,690 --> 00:17:43,523 It's the easiest way to go. 347 00:17:43,590 --> 00:17:47,424 He was giving a description of these homicides and described 348 00:17:47,491 --> 00:17:51,725 how he and Angelo had done this together in California. 349 00:17:51,826 --> 00:17:53,292 Who killed who? 350 00:17:53,293 --> 00:17:54,826 I killed the first broad. 351 00:17:54,892 --> 00:17:57,093 Who was she? 352 00:17:57,094 --> 00:17:59,394 Some black broad, I don't remember her name. 353 00:17:59,494 --> 00:18:00,894 How did you happen to pick her up? 354 00:18:00,994 --> 00:18:02,928 She was a hooker. 355 00:18:02,994 --> 00:18:04,695 Okay, who killed the second one? 356 00:18:04,696 --> 00:18:06,096 Angelo. Were you with him? 357 00:18:06,196 --> 00:18:08,297 He did a nice job doing it, too. 358 00:18:08,396 --> 00:18:10,730 Where did you kill her? 359 00:18:10,830 --> 00:18:13,398 Right at Angelo's house. 360 00:18:13,498 --> 00:18:18,298 I would have to say that certainly we are looking at him. 361 00:18:18,299 --> 00:18:22,400 He's had a relationship with Mr. Bianchi. 362 00:18:22,500 --> 00:18:26,101 Angelo, now he's my kind of person. 363 00:18:26,201 --> 00:18:29,900 He doesn't care a [bleep] about life, it's great. 364 00:18:29,901 --> 00:18:32,736 Other people's life. 365 00:18:32,836 --> 00:18:35,102 Has he killed anybody? 366 00:18:35,103 --> 00:18:39,505 Yup, he has. How many? 367 00:18:39,604 --> 00:18:42,905 Five girls. 368 00:18:43,004 --> 00:18:44,739 What a team we were. 369 00:18:44,839 --> 00:18:49,607 ♪♪ 370 00:18:49,707 --> 00:18:51,407 Komo: 27-year-old Kenneth Bianchi, 371 00:18:51,408 --> 00:18:53,541 charged with two homicides here in Bellingham, 372 00:18:53,608 --> 00:18:55,409 pleaded guilty to the Bellingham charges 373 00:18:55,508 --> 00:18:58,508 and admitted guilt to the Los Angeles slayings. 374 00:18:58,509 --> 00:19:01,808 When he's getting sentenced, he cries to everybody. 375 00:19:01,809 --> 00:19:04,344 He says how deeply sorry he is. 376 00:19:04,411 --> 00:19:08,645 Bianchi: To even begin to try and live with myself, 377 00:19:08,745 --> 00:19:11,612 I have to take responsibility for what I've done. 378 00:19:11,613 --> 00:19:14,512 ♪♪ 379 00:19:14,513 --> 00:19:19,048 And I have to do everything I can to get Angelo Buono. 380 00:19:19,115 --> 00:19:20,615 It's ridiculous. 381 00:19:20,715 --> 00:19:24,415 He's not sorry about anything, other than he got caught. 382 00:19:24,416 --> 00:19:29,618 ♪♪ 383 00:19:33,552 --> 00:19:34,952 Komo: Whatcom County prosecutor Dave McEachran 384 00:19:35,018 --> 00:19:38,817 asked for life sentences to be served consecutively. 385 00:19:38,818 --> 00:19:41,553 Bianchi says he will waive extradition to California 386 00:19:41,621 --> 00:19:44,054 and travel down there to testify against his cousin, 387 00:19:44,121 --> 00:19:47,221 Angelo Buono, whom Bianchi says was an accomplice 388 00:19:47,222 --> 00:19:48,555 in a series of killings 389 00:19:48,622 --> 00:19:52,256 known as the Los Angeles Hillside Stranglings. 390 00:19:52,323 --> 00:19:54,224 Davis: As soon as the name Angelo Buono 391 00:19:54,323 --> 00:19:55,857 was tied to the case, 392 00:19:55,923 --> 00:19:59,758 I and my colleagues found out where he lived, where he worked. 393 00:19:59,858 --> 00:20:03,159 His upholstery shop was right next door to his house. 394 00:20:03,226 --> 00:20:05,459 Allegedly, people such as Frank Sinatra 395 00:20:05,526 --> 00:20:07,527 were his customers. 396 00:20:07,627 --> 00:20:10,826 He's an obsessive compulsive neat freak. 397 00:20:10,827 --> 00:20:14,262 He cleans things that you could use as an operating table. 398 00:20:14,329 --> 00:20:17,262 He cleans them again. 399 00:20:17,330 --> 00:20:19,963 Davis: Bianchi was an unreliable witness. 400 00:20:20,029 --> 00:20:21,329 So there was a period of time 401 00:20:21,330 --> 00:20:24,530 there when Buono is loose on the streets. 402 00:20:24,531 --> 00:20:26,865 He hasn't been arrested yet. 403 00:20:26,931 --> 00:20:29,866 Now as a journalist, I was going to find out 404 00:20:29,932 --> 00:20:32,533 everything I could about Angelo Buono. 405 00:20:32,634 --> 00:20:35,933 ♪♪ 406 00:20:36,033 --> 00:20:40,535 Angelo Buono was born in Rochester, New York, in 1934. 407 00:20:40,635 --> 00:20:45,036 Schlesinger: Buono had a very, very troubled relationship with his mother. 408 00:20:45,137 --> 00:20:48,136 Evidently, she was running around on his father, 409 00:20:48,137 --> 00:20:49,671 which led to the divorce. 410 00:20:49,771 --> 00:20:51,638 That, I really think affected him, 411 00:20:51,738 --> 00:20:54,938 because she stepped out of her mother role 412 00:20:55,038 --> 00:21:00,040 and acted out sexually, at least in Buono's mind. 413 00:21:00,140 --> 00:21:04,442 He had a hatred for women that showed up again and again. 414 00:21:04,541 --> 00:21:08,241 Angelo is known to say many times, 415 00:21:08,242 --> 00:21:11,977 "Some women just deserve to die." 416 00:21:12,043 --> 00:21:13,677 Schlesinger: When Buono was an adolescent, 417 00:21:13,777 --> 00:21:17,478 he was telling other guys that he was sodomizing girls 418 00:21:17,545 --> 00:21:19,445 and raping girls and this sort of thing. 419 00:21:19,545 --> 00:21:21,044 Whether or not it's true, it's hard to know, 420 00:21:21,045 --> 00:21:24,580 but just the fact that Buono is talking like that, 421 00:21:24,646 --> 00:21:29,348 it's really beyond what average teenage boys talk about, 422 00:21:29,448 --> 00:21:32,082 so you see deviancy emerging. 423 00:21:32,148 --> 00:21:36,982 Buono was acting out in a typical antisocial way 424 00:21:37,049 --> 00:21:41,884 as a young person -- left school, gets arrested, 425 00:21:41,950 --> 00:21:45,751 steals, all these sorts of things. 426 00:21:45,752 --> 00:21:49,386 At 21, Angelo impregnates a 17-year-old girl, 427 00:21:49,453 --> 00:21:51,254 and she becomes his first wife. 428 00:21:51,353 --> 00:21:56,655 He is awful to her, as he will be to his subsequent wives. 429 00:21:56,755 --> 00:21:59,555 He fathers at least eight children, 430 00:21:59,656 --> 00:22:03,155 never takes responsibility for any of them, 431 00:22:03,156 --> 00:22:04,890 and that's just his life. 432 00:22:04,956 --> 00:22:06,855 That's just how he goes. 433 00:22:06,856 --> 00:22:08,657 Buono ended up marrying four times 434 00:22:08,658 --> 00:22:11,856 and had numerous other relationships. 435 00:22:11,857 --> 00:22:16,693 All of the women he married, he abused physically, verbally. 436 00:22:16,793 --> 00:22:20,494 They also made the accusation that he had abused 437 00:22:20,561 --> 00:22:23,294 one of his stepdaughters and that he said, 438 00:22:23,362 --> 00:22:25,961 "Well, she needs to be broken in." 439 00:22:26,061 --> 00:22:29,796 I wouldn't call him a charismatic person, 440 00:22:29,896 --> 00:22:33,464 although apparently a lot of young women 441 00:22:33,564 --> 00:22:36,464 found him attractive. 442 00:22:36,465 --> 00:22:39,398 He was the kind of guy that carried a big wad 443 00:22:39,466 --> 00:22:44,065 of $100 bills and liked to impress people. 444 00:22:44,066 --> 00:22:46,367 One of the characteristics of a psychopath 445 00:22:46,468 --> 00:22:48,967 is other people want to be around them. 446 00:22:49,067 --> 00:22:51,867 They know how to ingratiate themselves with people, 447 00:22:51,868 --> 00:22:57,269 and they can be attractive to some types of individuals. 448 00:22:57,270 --> 00:22:59,904 Among the people who came to admire Buono was his cousin, 449 00:22:59,970 --> 00:23:04,905 Ken Bianchi, who came out to California to live with him. 450 00:23:04,971 --> 00:23:06,472 Renner: When Ken arrived in L.A., 451 00:23:06,573 --> 00:23:11,973 he had the Hollywood vision of Los Angeles in his head, 452 00:23:12,073 --> 00:23:14,674 and he just seemed to be leading a normal life. 453 00:23:14,675 --> 00:23:17,808 He found a girlfriend. She got pregnant. 454 00:23:17,874 --> 00:23:19,576 He seemed to be delighted, really, 455 00:23:19,676 --> 00:23:21,975 about the prospect of being a father. 456 00:23:21,976 --> 00:23:27,911 And so on the surface, he seemed to be a perfectly normal guy 457 00:23:27,977 --> 00:23:31,778 in his 20s with a bright future ahead of him. 458 00:23:31,779 --> 00:23:33,712 But the real Kenneth Bianchi 459 00:23:33,812 --> 00:23:36,580 was someone completely different from the guy 460 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,280 that he presented himself to be in Los Angeles. 461 00:23:40,281 --> 00:23:42,081 When Bianchi gets to L.A., 462 00:23:42,182 --> 00:23:46,916 we know he establishes this kind of fake psychology service. 463 00:23:46,982 --> 00:23:49,282 Renner: He really studied the subject. 464 00:23:49,283 --> 00:23:51,117 He knew the jargon. 465 00:23:51,184 --> 00:23:53,685 So he got a false license, 466 00:23:53,784 --> 00:23:56,585 and he was so well-read in the subject 467 00:23:56,685 --> 00:23:59,319 that he was able to convince another psychologist 468 00:23:59,386 --> 00:24:02,519 to let him have an office space. 469 00:24:02,587 --> 00:24:06,921 He even had one or two patients drop in. 470 00:24:06,987 --> 00:24:09,721 De Reyes: But Bianchi, well, he needed more. 471 00:24:09,822 --> 00:24:14,123 He set his sights on being in a position of authority, 472 00:24:14,189 --> 00:24:18,824 something he was obsessed with since he was a little kid. 473 00:24:18,890 --> 00:24:21,791 Meredith: We had a candidate that had applied to be a police officer 474 00:24:21,792 --> 00:24:24,091 that my sergeant wanted to have rejected. 475 00:24:24,192 --> 00:24:26,992 He goes, "I don't like this guy. There's something about him." 476 00:24:27,092 --> 00:24:29,192 So we wound up disqualifying him. 477 00:24:29,193 --> 00:24:31,493 His name happened to be Kenneth Bianchi. 478 00:24:31,494 --> 00:24:37,128 ♪♪ 479 00:24:39,329 --> 00:24:44,397 ♪♪ 480 00:24:44,398 --> 00:24:47,131 Welcome back to "Very Scary People." 481 00:24:47,198 --> 00:24:48,932 Kenneth Bianchi had bright dreams 482 00:24:48,998 --> 00:24:50,698 when he moved to Los Angeles 483 00:24:50,699 --> 00:24:53,399 to be near his cousin, Angelo Buono. 484 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,734 For years, he'd imagined himself in a position of authority 485 00:24:56,833 --> 00:24:58,700 and having others look up to him. 486 00:24:58,701 --> 00:25:01,334 Although Buono and Bianchi barely knew each other, 487 00:25:01,402 --> 00:25:05,403 the cousins found they had more in common than either realized. 488 00:25:05,503 --> 00:25:10,537 ♪♪ 489 00:25:10,604 --> 00:25:13,138 Davis: When Bianchi moved out to southern California, 490 00:25:13,205 --> 00:25:15,038 he knew he needed to make some money. 491 00:25:15,104 --> 00:25:16,705 Well, his older cousin Angelo said, 492 00:25:16,706 --> 00:25:18,805 "Why don't we go into the prostitution business?" 493 00:25:18,806 --> 00:25:20,407 Reporter: This is Sabra. 494 00:25:20,506 --> 00:25:23,206 She was 17 years old when she was allegedly forced to work 495 00:25:23,207 --> 00:25:26,207 as a prostitute on behalf of Angelo Buono 496 00:25:26,208 --> 00:25:28,941 and his cousin and companion, Ken Bianchi, 497 00:25:29,007 --> 00:25:31,543 now the two suspects in the Hillside Stranglings. 498 00:25:31,609 --> 00:25:33,210 His temper flared up very easily, 499 00:25:33,310 --> 00:25:36,810 and if he didn't get his way on things that he wanted, 500 00:25:36,811 --> 00:25:38,244 then it was like, 501 00:25:38,311 --> 00:25:40,311 "I'm going to slap you around a couple of times 502 00:25:40,412 --> 00:25:44,146 until you realize that I mean business." 503 00:25:44,212 --> 00:25:46,112 Lee: Sabra's a very pretty girl, 504 00:25:46,213 --> 00:25:48,613 full of dreams, like many girls her age, 505 00:25:48,614 --> 00:25:51,847 and believed that she was going to be a model or an actress, 506 00:25:51,948 --> 00:25:53,614 and came to Hollywood. 507 00:25:53,615 --> 00:25:56,514 Kenneth Bianchi posed as a modeling agent 508 00:25:56,515 --> 00:25:58,316 when he lured Sabra. 509 00:25:58,416 --> 00:26:02,650 He was a master of identities and of personalities. 510 00:26:02,717 --> 00:26:06,417 Sabra was pressured to bring another girl in. 511 00:26:06,418 --> 00:26:08,618 Becky Spears was a friend of sabra's. 512 00:26:08,619 --> 00:26:10,018 And Becky came in, 513 00:26:10,118 --> 00:26:12,219 and things started to get rough at that point. 514 00:26:12,220 --> 00:26:14,553 I never saw a gentle side of either one of them. 515 00:26:14,620 --> 00:26:17,221 I never saw a human side of either one of them. 516 00:26:17,321 --> 00:26:21,222 I would say when I was there, I was kidnapped. 517 00:26:21,322 --> 00:26:25,423 I was there not on my own will. 518 00:26:25,523 --> 00:26:28,357 Becky was sent out to meet a lawyer as a customer, 519 00:26:28,424 --> 00:26:31,558 and Becky told him the story, and he helped her escape. 520 00:26:31,624 --> 00:26:34,158 De Reyes: They still had the other young woman, 521 00:26:34,225 --> 00:26:37,226 and eventually she escaped. 522 00:26:37,326 --> 00:26:41,025 Lee: There's a theory that after Sabra and Becky got away, 523 00:26:41,026 --> 00:26:42,726 that these two wanted revenge, 524 00:26:42,727 --> 00:26:44,561 but I think it was more complicated than that. 525 00:26:44,628 --> 00:26:46,727 I think that they had the intentions 526 00:26:46,728 --> 00:26:48,628 of setting up an escort service. 527 00:26:48,629 --> 00:26:51,629 Davis: So Bianchi and Buono contacted two young prostitutes 528 00:26:51,630 --> 00:26:55,363 in Hollywood, Yolanda Washington and Debbie Noble. 529 00:26:55,431 --> 00:27:00,665 At one point, they were given a list of possible johns. 530 00:27:00,732 --> 00:27:03,866 They soon found out, though, that the list was fake, 531 00:27:03,966 --> 00:27:06,133 and that they were taken for money. 532 00:27:06,233 --> 00:27:08,234 That angered them greatly. 533 00:27:10,367 --> 00:27:13,869 Yolanda Washington happened to casually say to 534 00:27:13,968 --> 00:27:19,736 Angelo and Ken where she walked the streets on Sunset Boulevard, 535 00:27:19,737 --> 00:27:22,438 and they went and found Yolanda Washington. 536 00:27:22,538 --> 00:27:24,136 Renner: They killed her in a car, 537 00:27:24,137 --> 00:27:27,238 but once they decided that that was too risky, 538 00:27:27,239 --> 00:27:29,439 they developed this whole M.O. 539 00:27:29,539 --> 00:27:31,839 ♪♪ 540 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,774 Bianchi and Buono would drive around as if they're two cops. 541 00:27:35,874 --> 00:27:38,574 The police ruse thing was used in almost all of them. 542 00:27:38,642 --> 00:27:40,442 Psychiatrist: So they were under the impression 543 00:27:40,542 --> 00:27:43,842 that they were being taken to a police station, right? 544 00:27:43,843 --> 00:27:45,343 Right. 545 00:27:45,344 --> 00:27:48,443 All signs pointed to the fact that most of the victims 546 00:27:48,444 --> 00:27:50,277 were brought back to Buono's home 547 00:27:50,345 --> 00:27:52,444 next to the upholstery shop. 548 00:27:52,445 --> 00:28:01,881 The girls were undressed, bound, gagged, whatever. 549 00:28:01,947 --> 00:28:03,481 There was sex with them. 550 00:28:03,548 --> 00:28:06,548 They were apparently placed in a chair 551 00:28:06,549 --> 00:28:10,650 where they were violated, tortured. 552 00:28:10,750 --> 00:28:15,084 Fibers from that chair were found on several of the victims. 553 00:28:15,150 --> 00:28:18,652 Then they were put on the floor and killed. 554 00:28:18,752 --> 00:28:22,252 After they were dead, the body was loaded into the car, 555 00:28:22,253 --> 00:28:23,752 the nude body. 556 00:28:23,753 --> 00:28:27,987 De Reyes: The bodies had been dumped off in areas 557 00:28:28,053 --> 00:28:32,554 that were pretty much in the general vicinity of Glendale. 558 00:28:32,555 --> 00:28:37,190 It would put Angelo Buono's shop somewhat in the middle of it. 559 00:28:39,290 --> 00:28:42,091 Buono and Bianchi were operating undetected, 560 00:28:42,157 --> 00:28:44,891 and the body count continued to rise. 561 00:28:44,992 --> 00:28:47,158 When law enforcement hasn't started to target them, 562 00:28:47,259 --> 00:28:48,558 they get brave, 563 00:28:48,559 --> 00:28:50,993 and they begin to push the envelope to see 564 00:28:51,059 --> 00:28:56,394 if they can do more and more to kind of frustrate the police. 565 00:28:56,462 --> 00:28:58,595 Davis: Kimberly Martin was the ninth victim. 566 00:28:58,662 --> 00:29:00,862 She was working for an escort service. 567 00:29:00,863 --> 00:29:02,362 These guys were so confident, 568 00:29:02,363 --> 00:29:05,296 they asked the service to a girl to an empty apartment 569 00:29:05,364 --> 00:29:07,898 in the same complex where Bianchi lived. 570 00:29:07,997 --> 00:29:10,464 Schlesinger: When they called up and had a prostitute 571 00:29:10,465 --> 00:29:14,099 go to an empty apartment in a place where Bianchi lived, 572 00:29:14,165 --> 00:29:15,666 that's high-risk behavior, 573 00:29:15,667 --> 00:29:18,000 because they can get connected to it. 574 00:29:18,066 --> 00:29:19,601 Davis: Kimberly Martin ended up 575 00:29:19,667 --> 00:29:22,368 getting into a struggle with the killers in Bianchi's building, 576 00:29:22,468 --> 00:29:24,902 and some of the neighbors overheard the commotion. 577 00:29:24,968 --> 00:29:27,002 Lee: The police officers were interviewing everybody 578 00:29:27,068 --> 00:29:28,402 in the apartments 579 00:29:28,470 --> 00:29:31,069 and forcing them to show their driver's license. 580 00:29:31,169 --> 00:29:33,404 And they spoke to Kenneth Bianchi, 581 00:29:33,471 --> 00:29:35,304 and he manipulated his way from showing them 582 00:29:35,371 --> 00:29:36,905 the driver's license, 583 00:29:36,971 --> 00:29:39,105 because if they would have seen the driver's license, 584 00:29:39,171 --> 00:29:42,606 they would have noted that the address on the driver's license 585 00:29:42,673 --> 00:29:45,607 was the same address as the previous victim. 586 00:29:45,674 --> 00:29:51,275 ♪♪ 587 00:29:52,909 --> 00:29:54,576 ♪♪ 588 00:29:54,676 --> 00:29:57,577 Meredith: In the city of Los Angeles, we went through 10 murders, 589 00:29:57,677 --> 00:30:01,677 and the Cindy Hudspeth case was the last one we had. 590 00:30:01,678 --> 00:30:03,977 Renner: Cindy Hudspeth's on her way to work. 591 00:30:03,978 --> 00:30:07,078 She's in her car. She's driving along. 592 00:30:07,079 --> 00:30:09,579 She sees an auto upholstery shop 593 00:30:09,580 --> 00:30:11,814 and just on a whim, she stops in, 594 00:30:11,913 --> 00:30:14,979 and it's Angelo Buono's upholstery shop. 595 00:30:14,980 --> 00:30:17,915 Angelo and Ken cannot believe their good luck. 596 00:30:17,981 --> 00:30:20,516 They don't even have to go cruising for anyone. 597 00:30:20,583 --> 00:30:24,083 This woman just walked right into the trap. 598 00:30:24,183 --> 00:30:28,718 And at this point, their M.O. Is really solid. 599 00:30:28,785 --> 00:30:33,919 And they get her tied up, and they do what they always do. 600 00:30:34,019 --> 00:30:38,687 They sexually assault her and they strangle her. 601 00:30:38,788 --> 00:30:41,687 ♪♪ 602 00:30:41,688 --> 00:30:43,789 Since she just walked in, her car is there. 603 00:30:43,889 --> 00:30:47,423 They have to get rid of it. They put her body in the trunk. 604 00:30:47,490 --> 00:30:50,423 Ken's driving in her car with her body in it. 605 00:30:50,491 --> 00:30:52,190 They get it to a hillside. 606 00:30:52,291 --> 00:30:55,190 Angelo parks at the side of the road behind him. 607 00:30:55,292 --> 00:30:58,492 They look around to see if anyone's watching, 608 00:30:58,593 --> 00:31:02,227 and they just pitch the car over the side. 609 00:31:02,293 --> 00:31:09,795 ♪♪ 610 00:31:09,895 --> 00:31:14,929 So despite the extensive manhunt for the Hillside Stranglers, 611 00:31:15,030 --> 00:31:18,698 including after the death of Cindy Hudspeth, 612 00:31:18,797 --> 00:31:23,232 Bianchi continued to take unnecessary risks. 613 00:31:23,299 --> 00:31:26,032 At the time, LAPD had a program 614 00:31:26,098 --> 00:31:29,233 to take citizens on a ride-along with police. 615 00:31:29,300 --> 00:31:32,401 Bianchi, who always wanted to be in law enforcement, 616 00:31:32,501 --> 00:31:34,100 took them up on it. 617 00:31:34,101 --> 00:31:36,335 Schlesinger: Buono, who's very street smart 618 00:31:36,402 --> 00:31:38,536 and knows you can only take it so far, 619 00:31:38,602 --> 00:31:41,036 said to Bianchi, "You got to get out of here, 620 00:31:41,102 --> 00:31:42,704 and if you don't I'm going to kill you, 621 00:31:42,804 --> 00:31:45,705 because you're gonna get me implicated in this." 622 00:31:45,804 --> 00:31:50,604 So then Bianchi moved to Washington state. 623 00:31:50,605 --> 00:31:52,439 De Reyes: After moving to Washington, 624 00:31:52,506 --> 00:31:54,640 Bianchi was arrested for the murders 625 00:31:54,707 --> 00:31:57,607 of Diane Wilder and Karen Mandic. 626 00:31:57,708 --> 00:31:59,941 And then he started to talk, 627 00:32:00,041 --> 00:32:04,042 fully implicating Angelo Buono in the L.A. murders. 628 00:32:04,108 --> 00:32:05,642 Davis: Finally, detectives in L.A. 629 00:32:05,710 --> 00:32:08,309 were ready to move against Buono. 630 00:32:08,310 --> 00:32:11,009 We immediately deployed our tactical team. 631 00:32:11,010 --> 00:32:12,611 We had placed some snipers on the roof 632 00:32:12,712 --> 00:32:13,845 of an apartment building 633 00:32:13,945 --> 00:32:16,412 behind Angelo Buono's upholstery shop. 634 00:32:16,512 --> 00:32:18,212 We had secured the area. 635 00:32:18,313 --> 00:32:24,212 ♪♪ 636 00:32:24,213 --> 00:32:25,713 When he walked out in handcuffs, 637 00:32:25,714 --> 00:32:29,648 I looked at him and I thought, the arrogance, 638 00:32:29,716 --> 00:32:34,617 the confidence, the demeanor, the evilness that he possessed. 639 00:32:34,717 --> 00:32:37,551 ♪♪ 640 00:32:37,618 --> 00:32:39,917 I was relieved. Finally, we've got him. 641 00:32:39,918 --> 00:32:43,619 We get to do something about it. 642 00:32:43,719 --> 00:32:46,118 Everyone was getting ready for Buono's trial 643 00:32:46,119 --> 00:32:50,820 when Bianchi's life took a turn no one expected. 644 00:32:50,821 --> 00:32:52,420 McEachran: Veronica Compton was a woman 645 00:32:52,421 --> 00:32:55,455 who likened herself as a playwright, 646 00:32:55,522 --> 00:32:58,122 and she wanted to interview Bianchi. 647 00:32:58,222 --> 00:33:02,324 Renner: She'd written a play called, "The Mutilated Cutter," 648 00:33:02,424 --> 00:33:05,458 which is just one heck of a name for anything. 649 00:33:05,525 --> 00:33:07,959 And she approached Bianchi in prison 650 00:33:08,058 --> 00:33:10,825 and wanted to talk to him to do some sort of research. 651 00:33:10,826 --> 00:33:12,225 Well, one thing led to another. 652 00:33:12,226 --> 00:33:15,527 She became romantically involved with Bianchi. 653 00:33:15,627 --> 00:33:17,261 And apparently, they fell in love. 654 00:33:17,328 --> 00:33:18,561 Renner: She's attractive, 655 00:33:18,628 --> 00:33:21,227 But the thing that really attracts Ken is, 656 00:33:21,228 --> 00:33:24,228 in this screenplay that she's written, 657 00:33:24,229 --> 00:33:27,128 it revolves around a female serial killer, 658 00:33:27,129 --> 00:33:31,632 and she lays a false trail for investigators 659 00:33:31,731 --> 00:33:35,365 by taking the semen of innocent men 660 00:33:35,432 --> 00:33:39,066 and leaving it at the scene to throw the police off. 661 00:33:39,132 --> 00:33:42,667 The wheels start turning in Ken's head. 662 00:33:42,734 --> 00:33:45,233 Bianchi and Compton came up with a plan 663 00:33:45,234 --> 00:33:47,068 that they thought would convince authorities 664 00:33:47,134 --> 00:33:50,335 that they had the wrong man, and that 665 00:33:50,336 --> 00:33:54,136 the real Hillside Strangler was on the loose. 666 00:33:54,236 --> 00:33:57,171 Renner: Never mind that he's already confessed to the crimes, 667 00:33:57,237 --> 00:33:58,972 but she's going to do this thing for him. 668 00:33:59,071 --> 00:34:01,338 De Reyes: He gave her a condom of semen 669 00:34:01,339 --> 00:34:03,939 to put on the victim so that they could say, 670 00:34:03,940 --> 00:34:07,874 "Hey, there's, there's somebody else doing those crimes." 671 00:34:07,974 --> 00:34:10,440 McEachran: She came to Bellingham and had a disguise 672 00:34:10,441 --> 00:34:11,842 on making her look pregnant, 673 00:34:11,941 --> 00:34:16,276 had a long wig on, and went to a local bar here 674 00:34:16,343 --> 00:34:19,843 and encountered a young woman whose name was Kim Breed. 675 00:34:19,844 --> 00:34:22,142 And they started drinking together, 676 00:34:22,143 --> 00:34:26,778 and Veronica Compton invited her back to her hotel room. 677 00:34:26,846 --> 00:34:29,079 When they got there, Veronica indicated 678 00:34:29,145 --> 00:34:31,280 she wanted to just change her clothes, 679 00:34:31,347 --> 00:34:34,747 and went in the bathroom and came back out 680 00:34:34,847 --> 00:34:37,881 and was able to get behind this young woman 681 00:34:37,981 --> 00:34:39,682 and put a ligature around her neck 682 00:34:39,749 --> 00:34:42,750 and started choking her, trying to kill her. 683 00:34:51,452 --> 00:34:53,250 She was a very strong woman. 684 00:34:53,251 --> 00:34:56,086 Was able to get the ligature off her neck, 685 00:34:56,152 --> 00:34:58,387 and knocked Veronica Compton down 686 00:34:58,453 --> 00:35:02,288 and Veronica Compton ran out of the room. 687 00:35:02,354 --> 00:35:06,154 Davis: It wasn't long before police caught up with Veronica Compton. 688 00:35:06,255 --> 00:35:10,090 I charged her with attempted murder in the first degree. 689 00:35:10,156 --> 00:35:14,591 Veronica, did you attempt to murder Kim Breed? 690 00:35:14,657 --> 00:35:16,557 No. 691 00:35:16,558 --> 00:35:20,458 It was supposed to be a game. She was in on it. 692 00:35:20,459 --> 00:35:23,593 The jury wasn't buying Veronica Compton's claim. 693 00:35:23,660 --> 00:35:26,294 She was convicted in a jury trial. 694 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:30,260 Renner: Veronica Compton does spend 22 years in prison for this. 695 00:35:30,261 --> 00:35:33,095 The whole thing was just bizarre. 696 00:35:33,161 --> 00:35:36,162 I think that's the best word that I can think of. 697 00:35:36,262 --> 00:35:39,097 With the Compton distraction out of the way, 698 00:35:39,163 --> 00:35:43,063 prosecutors were now concentrating on getting justice 699 00:35:43,064 --> 00:35:45,665 for the victims of the Hillside Stranglers. 700 00:35:45,766 --> 00:35:51,367 ♪♪ 701 00:35:54,101 --> 00:35:56,001 Reporter: Buono wore a jail uniform 702 00:35:56,067 --> 00:35:58,669 to and from the criminal courts building. 703 00:35:58,736 --> 00:36:00,869 At that time, we had a system in Los Angeles 704 00:36:00,969 --> 00:36:06,470 where judges would appoint attorneys to represent someone, 705 00:36:06,471 --> 00:36:10,270 so the first person who was appointed was Gerry Chaleff. 706 00:36:10,271 --> 00:36:13,406 Gerry was looking for somebody in particular. 707 00:36:13,472 --> 00:36:15,572 He wanted to have a female. 708 00:36:15,573 --> 00:36:20,574 He knew a woman was going to be sitting next to Angelo Buono. 709 00:36:20,575 --> 00:36:25,073 And here's a man that's charged with raping 710 00:36:25,074 --> 00:36:29,375 and torturing and killing 10 women, 711 00:36:29,376 --> 00:36:33,477 and if he can get along with what appears to be a nice woman 712 00:36:33,478 --> 00:36:35,311 for a lengthy period of time, 713 00:36:35,378 --> 00:36:37,679 and the jury is watching everything, 714 00:36:37,778 --> 00:36:41,378 then maybe he's not that bad after all. 715 00:36:41,379 --> 00:36:43,279 The district attorney at the time 716 00:36:43,380 --> 00:36:46,581 realizes that Bianchi lies constantly. 717 00:36:46,681 --> 00:36:49,080 And so the district attorney is saying, 718 00:36:49,081 --> 00:36:51,881 "I can't go to court and charge Buono 719 00:36:51,882 --> 00:36:53,883 when my star witness is Bianchi, 720 00:36:53,983 --> 00:36:56,181 who can't tell the truth about anything." 721 00:36:56,182 --> 00:37:00,283 Mader: And so the district attorney of Los Angeles 722 00:37:00,284 --> 00:37:03,685 at the time went into court to dismiss the case. 723 00:37:03,753 --> 00:37:07,886 And the judge, Ron George, said, "Mm, wait a minute here. 724 00:37:07,987 --> 00:37:13,788 I'm not necessarily going to just on the spot here 725 00:37:13,888 --> 00:37:15,388 dismiss the case. 726 00:37:15,488 --> 00:37:17,122 I need more information." 727 00:37:17,188 --> 00:37:20,523 I would say in over 99% of the cases, 728 00:37:20,590 --> 00:37:23,924 one would not second guess a prosecutor, 729 00:37:24,023 --> 00:37:27,525 but in this case, I felt obliged to. 730 00:37:27,591 --> 00:37:31,125 He picked up on a lot of scientific investigations, 731 00:37:31,191 --> 00:37:33,759 reports, particularly the fiber evidence, 732 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:38,293 that appeared to connect Buono and Buono's house 733 00:37:38,394 --> 00:37:41,795 to the murdered young women. 734 00:37:41,895 --> 00:37:45,329 De Reyes: So they appointed a couple of attorneys to handle the case, 735 00:37:45,396 --> 00:37:47,696 and these guys were much more gung-ho. 736 00:37:47,797 --> 00:37:51,697 These guys were much more battle-tested, you could tell. 737 00:37:51,765 --> 00:37:54,598 And I think that Gerald Chaleff and Katherine Mader 738 00:37:54,698 --> 00:37:56,632 had their hands full with these two. 739 00:37:56,699 --> 00:38:02,934 ♪♪ 740 00:38:03,033 --> 00:38:05,134 Davis: The trial went on and on. 741 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,134 In fact, it was the longest trial in Los Angeles County 742 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:09,702 at that time. 743 00:38:09,769 --> 00:38:12,769 De Reyes: The prosecution was determined to use Bianchi 744 00:38:12,770 --> 00:38:14,036 as their star witness. 745 00:38:14,102 --> 00:38:16,337 He'd already pleaded guilty to the two murderers 746 00:38:16,404 --> 00:38:20,504 in Washington state and the five in L.A. 747 00:38:20,505 --> 00:38:24,039 The defense countered that it was impossible for Bianchi 748 00:38:24,105 --> 00:38:25,839 to tell a consistent story. 749 00:38:25,906 --> 00:38:27,639 Chaleff: I think he's a liar. 750 00:38:27,707 --> 00:38:30,774 He's a sophisticated con man who will use anything 751 00:38:30,775 --> 00:38:33,306 and anybody to get what he wants. 752 00:38:33,307 --> 00:38:36,709 Perhaps I had convinced myself 753 00:38:36,776 --> 00:38:41,343 that we really had a shot of getting an acquittal here 754 00:38:41,410 --> 00:38:43,844 as to all the murders. 755 00:38:43,911 --> 00:38:50,613 ♪♪ 756 00:38:50,712 --> 00:38:54,346 The convictions came in piecemeal. 757 00:38:54,413 --> 00:38:59,414 The first verdict that the jurors reached 758 00:38:59,415 --> 00:39:03,415 was with the victim Yolanda Washington, 759 00:39:03,416 --> 00:39:07,517 and the jurors came back fairly quickly 760 00:39:07,617 --> 00:39:09,717 with a not guilty verdict. 761 00:39:09,785 --> 00:39:15,419 I think that must have freaked out the prosecution. 762 00:39:15,519 --> 00:39:19,553 And then for the subsequent nine victims, 763 00:39:19,620 --> 00:39:22,553 they convicted him of everything. 764 00:39:22,621 --> 00:39:24,554 Reporter: Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Ronald George 765 00:39:24,621 --> 00:39:26,788 lamented that he had no legal choice 766 00:39:26,789 --> 00:39:30,621 but to follow the jury's recommendation of life sentences 767 00:39:30,622 --> 00:39:33,323 instead of the death penalty. 768 00:39:33,423 --> 00:39:35,322 George: Angelo Buono and Kenneth Bianchi 769 00:39:35,323 --> 00:39:37,524 terrorized this city for several months, 770 00:39:37,624 --> 00:39:39,558 as Angelo Buono and Kenneth Bianchi 771 00:39:39,625 --> 00:39:44,159 slowly squeezed out of their victims their last breath of air 772 00:39:44,225 --> 00:39:46,960 and their promise of a future life. 773 00:39:47,060 --> 00:39:48,360 And all for what? 774 00:39:48,427 --> 00:39:50,427 The momentary, sadistic thrill 775 00:39:50,528 --> 00:39:54,528 of enjoying a brief, perverted sexual satisfaction 776 00:39:54,529 --> 00:39:57,796 and the venting of their hatred of women. 777 00:39:57,797 --> 00:40:02,364 ♪♪ 778 00:40:02,431 --> 00:40:05,931 Davis: Buono was serving his sentence in 2002 779 00:40:05,932 --> 00:40:08,431 when he met a sudden end. 780 00:40:08,432 --> 00:40:11,433 De Reyes: Angelo Buono died of a heart attack, 781 00:40:11,533 --> 00:40:13,367 which was a very merciful thing 782 00:40:13,434 --> 00:40:16,332 to happen to a very unmerciful individual. 783 00:40:16,333 --> 00:40:20,635 ♪♪ 784 00:40:20,636 --> 00:40:21,835 McEachran: Mr. Bianchi has filed 785 00:40:21,836 --> 00:40:24,169 a number of lawsuits and appeals. 786 00:40:24,235 --> 00:40:25,569 He has said a number of times 787 00:40:25,637 --> 00:40:27,135 that the real killer is still there. 788 00:40:27,136 --> 00:40:30,571 That's all he has to do, is try to argue these things, 789 00:40:30,638 --> 00:40:34,072 and it's just crazy at this point. 790 00:40:34,172 --> 00:40:36,038 Lee: Bianchi's never gonna get out on parole, 791 00:40:36,039 --> 00:40:37,337 so he's just stuck there. 792 00:40:37,338 --> 00:40:39,440 And I think that's a good place for -- 793 00:40:39,540 --> 00:40:43,640 those are the kind of people that belong in jail. 794 00:40:43,641 --> 00:40:46,641 Davis: Sadly, cases like this, 795 00:40:46,642 --> 00:40:50,842 it's another attack on our fortress of feeling safe. 796 00:40:50,843 --> 00:40:52,542 For those of us who lived through 797 00:40:52,543 --> 00:40:55,444 the Hillside Strangler case, we'll never forget it. 798 00:40:55,544 --> 00:40:57,745 Renner: There are ripples from these crimes 799 00:40:57,812 --> 00:41:01,144 that go on literally for generations. 800 00:41:01,145 --> 00:41:03,179 It's the fabric of the universe, 801 00:41:03,245 --> 00:41:06,345 and that's what each one of these victims represents to me, 802 00:41:06,346 --> 00:41:08,747 just a tear in the fabric of the universe 803 00:41:08,815 --> 00:41:11,648 that never gets put right again. 804 00:41:11,649 --> 00:41:15,082 It did change the way people looked at the city, 805 00:41:15,148 --> 00:41:16,483 the way they lived. 806 00:41:16,549 --> 00:41:19,248 That's what serial killers did for Los Angeles. 807 00:41:19,249 --> 00:41:22,651 It set us up for this kind of paranoid lifestyle 808 00:41:22,751 --> 00:41:25,150 that we still sort of live now. 809 00:41:25,151 --> 00:41:27,085 ♪♪ 810 00:41:27,151 --> 00:41:29,986 Meredith: I have seen a lot of horrific crimes in my time, 811 00:41:30,086 --> 00:41:33,053 but I cannot imagine anything being as horrific 812 00:41:33,054 --> 00:41:35,655 as what occurred to these women and these girls. 813 00:41:35,754 --> 00:41:37,188 I've dealt with some evil people, 814 00:41:37,254 --> 00:41:42,189 but nobody as evil and dark as Buono and Bianchi. 815 00:41:42,255 --> 00:41:46,390 Kenneth Bianchi will be eligible for parole again in 2025, 816 00:41:46,457 --> 00:41:48,657 the same year he turns 74. 817 00:41:48,658 --> 00:41:51,256 Sadly, while his name still generates headlines, 818 00:41:51,257 --> 00:41:54,860 the identities of his victims remains largely unknown, 819 00:41:54,959 --> 00:41:56,960 except to their friends and loved ones. 820 00:41:57,060 --> 00:41:58,259 I'm Donnie Wahlberg. 821 00:41:58,359 --> 00:42:00,059 Thanks for watching. 822 00:42:00,060 --> 00:42:03,862 Goodnight.