1 00:00:00,633 --> 00:00:02,602    ♪♪                            2 00:00:02,602 --> 00:00:05,338 -The wife                           of a prominent businessman    3 00:00:05,338 --> 00:00:07,507 is found deceased                   in her hotel room.            4 00:00:07,507 --> 00:00:10,977  -She didn't have bullet wounds   or stab wounds.                 5 00:00:10,977 --> 00:00:14,581    There was no obvious method   of death.                        6 00:00:14,581 --> 00:00:18,251 -We didn't find anything          that would indicate foul play.  7 00:00:18,251 --> 00:00:20,787   -However, there was evidence   8 00:00:20,787 --> 00:00:23,123 of cocaine in her system.        9 00:00:23,123 --> 00:00:26,926    -When we found out              that she had died that night,  10 00:00:26,926 --> 00:00:30,630 it left a huge emptiness          with all of us.                 11 00:00:30,630 --> 00:00:33,333    [ Sniffles, sighs ]           12 00:00:34,634 --> 00:00:37,170 -What seems like                  an accident gets a second look  13 00:00:37,170 --> 00:00:40,340    when investigators uncover      a troubling pattern.           14 00:00:40,340 --> 00:00:42,409   -We found out                  that several other people        15 00:00:42,409 --> 00:00:45,712    that he's been with            died in unusual circumstances.  16 00:00:45,712 --> 00:00:51,418 -These deaths were ruled          as accidental and undetermined. 17 00:00:51,418 --> 00:00:53,253    -That's a red flag.           18 00:00:53,253 --> 00:00:55,288   -A possible survivor surfaces  19 00:00:55,288 --> 00:00:58,458 that leads police                   to something more sinister.   20 00:00:58,458 --> 00:01:03,263    -I have never felt            such evilness in my life.        21 00:01:03,263 --> 00:01:07,400    [ Voice breaking ]             I felt so responsible.          22 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,769    -You gotta wonder,            23 00:01:09,769 --> 00:01:13,740 were we actually dealing           with a serial killer?          24 00:01:13,740 --> 00:01:33,526    ♪♪                            25 00:01:33,526 --> 00:01:35,328  -Just after 10:00 a.m.,         26 00:01:35,328 --> 00:01:37,997    Detroit emergency services      receive a call from security   27 00:01:37,997 --> 00:01:40,100   at an upscale Detroit hotel.   28 00:01:40,100 --> 00:01:42,969    A man's wife has been found   deceased in a guest room.        29 00:01:42,969 --> 00:01:48,141    Soon after, officers arrive     to secure the scene.           30 00:01:48,141 --> 00:01:50,910   -When I arrive at the scene,   31 00:01:50,910 --> 00:01:53,513   I noticed a guy down the hall   sitting there.                  32 00:01:53,513 --> 00:01:55,582   One of the officers told me,   33 00:01:55,582 --> 00:01:58,017  "That's the guy                   that his wife died."           34 00:01:58,017 --> 00:01:59,519   -The man is Ed Amos,           35 00:01:59,519 --> 00:02:03,189  the person who alerted           hotel security to call police.  36 00:02:03,189 --> 00:02:05,825    -We learned                   that the deceased's name         37 00:02:05,825 --> 00:02:08,361    was Roberta Amos --           38 00:02:08,361 --> 00:02:10,363  everybody called her "Bobbe" -- 39 00:02:10,363 --> 00:02:14,367    and she was Ed Amos's wife.   40 00:02:14,367 --> 00:02:15,668    -Detectives enter the room,   41 00:02:15,668 --> 00:02:19,372    where Bobbe's body              is lying on the bed.           42 00:02:19,372 --> 00:02:21,407    -When I went into the room,   43 00:02:21,407 --> 00:02:22,909  there were indications          44 00:02:22,909 --> 00:02:25,011    that people                      had been partying there --    45 00:02:25,011 --> 00:02:28,882 empty drink glasses, cigarettes, 46 00:02:28,882 --> 00:02:30,950  those types of things.          47 00:02:30,950 --> 00:02:33,887  -She didn't have bullet wounds   or stab wounds                  48 00:02:33,887 --> 00:02:35,622 or blunt force trauma --         49 00:02:35,622 --> 00:02:36,990    anything like that            50 00:02:36,990 --> 00:02:41,227    that would suggest              any obvious method of death.   51 00:02:41,227 --> 00:02:46,533   -The bottom sheet had           a huge damp area on the sheet.  52 00:02:46,533 --> 00:02:48,168  -It was soaked.                 53 00:02:48,168 --> 00:02:52,172    It appeared like there was     a lot of water                  54 00:02:52,172 --> 00:02:55,875  that had somehow gotten          under her body                  55 00:02:55,875 --> 00:02:57,877  with no real explanation to it. 56 00:02:57,877 --> 00:03:00,213    ♪♪                            57 00:03:00,213 --> 00:03:04,450    -It could be bodily fluid.      We didn't know at that time.   58 00:03:06,386 --> 00:03:08,154  -With little to go on,          59 00:03:08,154 --> 00:03:10,156  investigators speak to Ed Amos, 60 00:03:10,156 --> 00:03:13,426    who appears to be in shock       over the death of his wife.   61 00:03:13,426 --> 00:03:14,627    ♪♪                            62 00:03:14,627 --> 00:03:15,962 -He seemed kind of cold.         63 00:03:15,962 --> 00:03:17,964  Not a tear -- nothing.          64 00:03:17,964 --> 00:03:22,168  But that can be normal           in these circumstances.         65 00:03:22,168 --> 00:03:26,573   Ed Amos told me that             he didn't know what happened.  66 00:03:26,573 --> 00:03:29,976 -He says                            that when he went to sleep,   67 00:03:29,976 --> 00:03:32,212    Bobbe was still up.           68 00:03:32,212 --> 00:03:35,248   -But when he woke up              a little before 10:00 a.m.,   69 00:03:35,248 --> 00:03:37,450    Bobbe was deceased,           70 00:03:37,450 --> 00:03:41,120  and that's when he then called   the front desk for help         71 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,290   and security notified             the police.                   72 00:03:44,290 --> 00:03:47,660   -Ed reported                     that they were from Indiana,   73 00:03:47,660 --> 00:03:49,929  specifically the Anderson area, 74 00:03:49,929 --> 00:03:51,798 but they were in Detroit         75 00:03:51,798 --> 00:03:53,933   for a Christmas party          76 00:03:53,933 --> 00:03:56,669  for his new financial company.  77 00:03:56,669 --> 00:04:00,039  -That business was run          out of the Detroit area.         78 00:04:00,039 --> 00:04:03,276    He said that's why               the Christmas party           79 00:04:03,276 --> 00:04:05,812  was held in Detroit that night, 80 00:04:05,812 --> 00:04:12,018  and the company                    had reserved several rooms.   81 00:04:12,018 --> 00:04:13,920   -Ed Amos tells police          that he and Bobbe                82 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,589  partied with employees           until around 4:00 a.m.,         83 00:04:16,589 --> 00:04:19,125    when they went back             to their room alone.           84 00:04:19,125 --> 00:04:20,526  -Ed made the admission          85 00:04:20,526 --> 00:04:24,564 Bobbe had brought cocaine         to Detroit from Indiana         86 00:04:24,564 --> 00:04:28,668   and that they had been doing     cocaine in the room.           87 00:04:28,668 --> 00:04:30,203    ♪♪                            88 00:04:30,203 --> 00:04:34,274   -Ed admitted                    that he had done some cleanup.  89 00:04:34,274 --> 00:04:37,210  He didn't want to have          any cocaine there                90 00:04:37,210 --> 00:04:39,178    when the police got there.    91 00:04:39,178 --> 00:04:42,882   But Ed -- other than             having done cocaine with her,  92 00:04:42,882 --> 00:04:45,718   he claimed he hadn't anything    to do with her death.          93 00:04:45,718 --> 00:04:48,554   -After speaking with Ed Amos,  94 00:04:48,554 --> 00:04:50,156 investigators do not find        95 00:04:50,156 --> 00:04:52,425   any evidence of drugs             in the hotel room,            96 00:04:52,425 --> 00:04:54,027    but they do observe an item   97 00:04:54,027 --> 00:04:55,728 that may provide                 a second account                 98 00:04:55,728 --> 00:04:58,197 of what happened to Bobbe           that night.                   99 00:04:58,197 --> 00:05:03,136    -There was a camera             sitting on the bedside table.  100 00:05:03,136 --> 00:05:05,004   The minute I saw the camera,   101 00:05:05,004 --> 00:05:08,308  I said we got to get that film  that was in it developed         102 00:05:08,308 --> 00:05:10,310 to see if there was any evidence    to be had.                    103 00:05:10,310 --> 00:05:13,212   At that time,                    we were looking at it          104 00:05:13,212 --> 00:05:16,716   as a possible                    accidental overdose.           105 00:05:16,716 --> 00:05:18,785   -As police finish up              at the crime scene,           106 00:05:18,785 --> 00:05:22,655 the family of Bobbe Amos            learns of her tragic death.   107 00:05:22,655 --> 00:05:25,458 -We got the call                    that there was an emergency   108 00:05:25,458 --> 00:05:28,895    and we needed to go              to my mom's house.            109 00:05:28,895 --> 00:05:31,664  And so we went                     to my mom's house,            110 00:05:31,664 --> 00:05:34,667    and she was crying.           111 00:05:34,667 --> 00:05:38,604   And that's when we found out     that she had died that night.  112 00:05:39,872 --> 00:05:42,775  And just hearing that,          113 00:05:42,775 --> 00:05:45,211   all your emotions --           114 00:05:45,211 --> 00:05:48,815    "What if? What if? What if?    Why? Why? Why?"                 115 00:05:48,815 --> 00:05:52,285   And it left a huge emptiness   116 00:05:52,285 --> 00:05:54,187  with all of us.                 117 00:05:54,187 --> 00:05:56,489    ♪♪                            118 00:05:56,489 --> 00:05:58,458  I didn't think I would do this. 119 00:05:58,458 --> 00:06:01,227    [ Sniffles, sighs ]           120 00:06:01,227 --> 00:06:07,433    ♪♪                            121 00:06:07,433 --> 00:06:10,236  -Bobbe grew up                    in Anderson, Indiana,          122 00:06:10,236 --> 00:06:12,305    just a 4-hour drive             from Detroit,                  123 00:06:12,305 --> 00:06:14,841   in a loving,                     middle-class family.           124 00:06:14,841 --> 00:06:17,610    -I was the oldest,              and then Bobbe came.           125 00:06:17,610 --> 00:06:19,078 We were 13 months apart.         126 00:06:19,078 --> 00:06:23,149 And then my brother came          14 months after Bobbe.          127 00:06:23,149 --> 00:06:26,619  Bobbe and I --                    we were just best of friends.  128 00:06:26,619 --> 00:06:28,187  We danced when we were little,  129 00:06:28,187 --> 00:06:31,924  and we would just Twist          our waist off.                  130 00:06:31,924 --> 00:06:34,060    ♪♪                            131 00:06:34,060 --> 00:06:36,729 As Bobbe grew up,                   she was beautiful.            132 00:06:36,729 --> 00:06:38,664 She had dark, curly hair         133 00:06:38,664 --> 00:06:40,066 and just a smile.                134 00:06:40,066 --> 00:06:45,405   She was kind and just             a fun person to be around.    135 00:06:45,405 --> 00:06:48,508  She was the life of the party.  136 00:06:48,508 --> 00:06:51,811   -After an idyllic childhood,     Bobbe graduates high school,   137 00:06:51,811 --> 00:06:54,914  skips collegiate life,          and goes to work.                138 00:06:54,914 --> 00:06:58,050    -Back then,                   everybody worked for GM,         139 00:06:58,050 --> 00:06:59,585   and Bobbe --                   140 00:06:59,585 --> 00:07:01,454    she started working              at General Motors,            141 00:07:01,454 --> 00:07:03,322    and that's how she met Ed.    142 00:07:03,322 --> 00:07:05,291    -Ed was also from Anderson,   143 00:07:05,291 --> 00:07:11,297 and he came from a family         that was relatively well-to-do. 144 00:07:11,297 --> 00:07:12,598    ♪♪                            145 00:07:12,598 --> 00:07:15,968    -Everybody knew Ed.           Everyone knew the family.        146 00:07:15,968 --> 00:07:19,872    Ed was an executive              in General Motors.            147 00:07:19,872 --> 00:07:22,775    He treated everybody well,    148 00:07:22,775 --> 00:07:26,279   never allowed anyone             to pay for anything.           149 00:07:26,279 --> 00:07:27,847 -He wanted people                  to know he had money.          150 00:07:27,847 --> 00:07:29,615   Ed drove a Cadillac.           151 00:07:29,615 --> 00:07:31,684  He had a Rolex and was            always dressed to the nines.   152 00:07:31,684 --> 00:07:33,519 He liked to live that lifestyle. 153 00:07:33,519 --> 00:07:37,757 -Ed was very charismatic,        and he was so gregarious.        154 00:07:37,757 --> 00:07:39,258 Bobbe loved that.                155 00:07:39,258 --> 00:07:42,428  She loved playing golf          and going to eat                 156 00:07:42,428 --> 00:07:46,599  and, you know,                    going to the parties.          157 00:07:47,533 --> 00:07:49,435    Bobbe fell in love.           158 00:07:49,435 --> 00:07:53,372    He swept her off her feet,       literally.                    159 00:07:53,372 --> 00:07:56,742  -In early 1993,                    after two years of dating,    160 00:07:56,742 --> 00:07:58,578    Bobbe surprises her family    161 00:07:58,578 --> 00:08:01,347 with news that she and Ed          are getting married.           162 00:08:01,347 --> 00:08:03,649    -We were all apprehensive.    163 00:08:03,649 --> 00:08:06,018    We, of course, welcomed him   164 00:08:06,018 --> 00:08:09,055    and were, you know,            warm and kind.                  165 00:08:09,055 --> 00:08:11,724  But he had a reputation         166 00:08:11,724 --> 00:08:13,726    at General Motors.            167 00:08:13,726 --> 00:08:15,862 He dated a lot of women.         168 00:08:15,862 --> 00:08:19,765    We knew that he had a past.   169 00:08:19,765 --> 00:08:22,735  -Ed had previously been married two times                        170 00:08:22,735 --> 00:08:25,671 prior to Bobbe's marriage         to him.                         171 00:08:25,671 --> 00:08:28,274  -But I had to be happy for her  172 00:08:28,274 --> 00:08:30,977  because she was just exuberant. 173 00:08:30,977 --> 00:08:33,479   And you felt the joy.          174 00:08:33,479 --> 00:08:35,014 -She didn't have to work         anymore.                         175 00:08:35,014 --> 00:08:37,149    They went on a lot             of vacations together.          176 00:08:37,149 --> 00:08:39,085 Money was never an issue         for them.                        177 00:08:39,085 --> 00:08:42,021  She lived a high life.          178 00:08:42,021 --> 00:08:43,155    ♪♪                            179 00:08:43,155 --> 00:08:45,191  -Sadly,                            less than two years later,    180 00:08:45,191 --> 00:08:49,061 Bobbe's joy is cut short           by her tragic death.           181 00:08:49,061 --> 00:08:51,964   -That night,                      we found out she was gone.    182 00:08:51,964 --> 00:08:54,100  Ed had come back from Michigan. 183 00:08:54,100 --> 00:08:56,903 He was upset, distraught.        184 00:08:56,903 --> 00:08:59,338  We didn't know                    how she had died that night,   185 00:08:59,338 --> 00:09:03,476   and we needed to know          what happened that night.        186 00:09:03,476 --> 00:09:08,314  -The next morning, Bobbe Amos's  body is brought in for autopsy. 187 00:09:08,314 --> 00:09:10,583 -The autopsy didn't find         188 00:09:10,583 --> 00:09:11,951   any defensive wounds           189 00:09:11,951 --> 00:09:15,454   or indicators                    that she had been smothered.   190 00:09:15,454 --> 00:09:18,558   There were no injection sites   found.                          191 00:09:18,558 --> 00:09:22,528 They didn't find anything         that would indicate foul play.  192 00:09:22,528 --> 00:09:24,096    ♪♪                            193 00:09:24,096 --> 00:09:25,565 -The autopsy showed that,        194 00:09:25,565 --> 00:09:28,367 although Ed said                   that Bobbe was doing cocaine,  195 00:09:28,367 --> 00:09:31,637    she had no cocaine presence     at all in her nasal passages.  196 00:09:31,637 --> 00:09:33,205  -However, the medical examiner  197 00:09:33,205 --> 00:09:35,274   does discover                    something surprising           198 00:09:35,274 --> 00:09:37,076 that backs up Ed's story.        199 00:09:37,076 --> 00:09:39,946    -There was evidence           200 00:09:39,946 --> 00:09:41,814    of cocaine residue            201 00:09:41,814 --> 00:09:43,282  in her vaginal cavity.          202 00:09:43,282 --> 00:09:44,483    ♪♪                            203 00:09:44,483 --> 00:09:45,885   That's not expected,           204 00:09:45,885 --> 00:09:50,256  but the method                    of ingesting cocaine can vary  205 00:09:50,256 --> 00:09:53,125 depending on the person.         206 00:09:53,125 --> 00:09:54,827   -She had fluid in her lungs,   207 00:09:54,827 --> 00:09:58,731   which is sometimes indicative   of an overdose.                 208 00:09:58,731 --> 00:10:02,568   -The manner of death              was ruled as undetermined,    209 00:10:02,568 --> 00:10:05,871 but it was reasonable to suggest 210 00:10:05,871 --> 00:10:09,508  that this may have been          just an overdose accidentally.  211 00:10:09,508 --> 00:10:12,411  There were going to be             additional testing,           212 00:10:12,411 --> 00:10:14,747 specifically toxicology reports, 213 00:10:14,747 --> 00:10:17,083  that would take weeks.          214 00:10:17,083 --> 00:10:19,185    ♪♪                            215 00:10:19,185 --> 00:10:20,987   -Detectives reach out          to Bobbe's family                216 00:10:20,987 --> 00:10:24,724   to provide an update            on their investigation.         217 00:10:24,724 --> 00:10:26,359    -After the autopsy,           218 00:10:26,359 --> 00:10:28,995  we talked with Bobbe's family,  219 00:10:28,995 --> 00:10:31,764   and nobody understood          220 00:10:31,764 --> 00:10:34,467  how this type of thing            could happen.                  221 00:10:34,467 --> 00:10:37,036    -[ Sighs ]                       You had to know my sister.    222 00:10:37,036 --> 00:10:39,805   She enjoyed the party scene,   223 00:10:39,805 --> 00:10:41,974    but Bobbe didn't do drugs.    224 00:10:41,974 --> 00:10:43,175    ♪♪                            225 00:10:43,175 --> 00:10:45,277    How would they have gotten    into her system?                 226 00:10:45,277 --> 00:10:49,215  Because she would not have done  them willingly.                 227 00:10:49,215 --> 00:10:54,453  -That information made us start    looking a little bit harder   228 00:10:54,453 --> 00:10:56,989    at what the real truth was      in all this.                   229 00:10:56,989 --> 00:10:58,791    ♪♪                            230 00:10:58,791 --> 00:11:00,259    -Did she do cocaine or not?   231 00:11:00,259 --> 00:11:02,862  Is this an accidental overdose, 232 00:11:02,862 --> 00:11:05,064  or somebody drugged this woman? 233 00:11:05,064 --> 00:11:07,800    ♪♪                            234 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,370   -We found out                   Ed was not gonna derive         235 00:11:11,370 --> 00:11:14,140    any life-insurance proceeds      from Bobbe.                   236 00:11:14,140 --> 00:11:17,276    There is a financial angle    to this.                         237 00:11:17,276 --> 00:11:19,912   -He's looking                  at a huge financial hit.         238 00:11:19,912 --> 00:11:23,616   -Bobbe had found out            that his business trips         239 00:11:23,616 --> 00:11:26,252  were really not                   just business trips.           240 00:11:26,252 --> 00:11:29,388 -That caused her                 to be suspicious.                241 00:11:29,388 --> 00:11:33,159   -I told her,                     "You need to be very afraid.   242 00:11:33,159 --> 00:11:35,227    I think you're in danger."    243 00:11:35,227 --> 00:11:42,368    ♪♪                            244 00:11:44,070 --> 00:11:50,309    ♪♪                            245 00:11:50,309 --> 00:11:52,344 -In early December 1994,         246 00:11:52,344 --> 00:11:53,879  police continue to investigate  247 00:11:53,879 --> 00:11:56,348   the mysterious death            of Bobbe Amos,                  248 00:11:56,348 --> 00:11:58,050  found deceased in a hotel room  249 00:11:58,050 --> 00:12:01,053    after her husband's           company Christmas party.         250 00:12:01,053 --> 00:12:04,490   -A day or two                    after Bobbe's death,           251 00:12:04,490 --> 00:12:05,991 we were looking at it as,        252 00:12:05,991 --> 00:12:08,694   you know, a possible              accidental overdose           253 00:12:08,694 --> 00:12:12,031    pending the results            of toxicology reports.          254 00:12:12,031 --> 00:12:15,968    But because Bobbe's family     told us                         255 00:12:15,968 --> 00:12:17,837    that she didn't use drugs,    256 00:12:17,837 --> 00:12:20,806    we started delving into it       a little bit more.            257 00:12:20,806 --> 00:12:25,311 -Detectives begin by questioning  any possible witnesses          258 00:12:25,311 --> 00:12:26,645   from the night of the party.   259 00:12:26,645 --> 00:12:30,583    -The investigation              was able to interview          260 00:12:30,583 --> 00:12:32,084  Ed's employees                  261 00:12:32,084 --> 00:12:34,487 and other people                 262 00:12:34,487 --> 00:12:38,023   who attended                     the Christmas party.           263 00:12:38,023 --> 00:12:40,593 -When asked about                 drug use at the party,          264 00:12:40,593 --> 00:12:43,729 they didn't admit                to any cocaine being used        265 00:12:43,729 --> 00:12:45,698    in their knowledge.           266 00:12:45,698 --> 00:12:47,500 People had related to us         267 00:12:47,500 --> 00:12:50,636   that a bunch of them           were partying for a while        268 00:12:50,636 --> 00:12:53,439 and that Ed and his wife, Bobbe, 269 00:12:53,439 --> 00:12:55,307    had gone back to their room   270 00:12:55,307 --> 00:12:58,177   at about 4:00 in the morning.  271 00:12:58,177 --> 00:13:01,847 -That would be consistent        with Ed's story.                 272 00:13:01,847 --> 00:13:05,084   Also, there was no suggestion  273 00:13:05,084 --> 00:13:08,287   Bobbe and Ed                    weren't getting along.          274 00:13:08,287 --> 00:13:10,723    -Basically,                     nobody knew anything,          275 00:13:10,723 --> 00:13:11,957    and some people --            276 00:13:11,957 --> 00:13:14,827 they didn't want anything        to do with this.                 277 00:13:14,827 --> 00:13:17,696 I think part of their reluctance 278 00:13:17,696 --> 00:13:19,598   was they didn't want             to be accused                  279 00:13:19,598 --> 00:13:22,968  of being involved in --           in narcotics.                  280 00:13:22,968 --> 00:13:24,703    ♪♪                            281 00:13:24,703 --> 00:13:28,641    -Among them                      was one of Ed's employees,    282 00:13:28,641 --> 00:13:32,745   a fellow by the name              of Daniel Porcasi.            283 00:13:32,745 --> 00:13:36,682   -Porcasi said he didn't know     anything about Bobbe,          284 00:13:36,682 --> 00:13:39,685    but he was                     a little bit skittish.          285 00:13:39,685 --> 00:13:43,622  I got the opinion that            maybe he was hiding something  286 00:13:43,622 --> 00:13:45,157   about Bobbe's death.           287 00:13:45,157 --> 00:13:46,358    ♪♪                            288 00:13:46,358 --> 00:13:48,394    -With no witnesses             from the party                  289 00:13:48,394 --> 00:13:50,062  providing any new information,  290 00:13:50,062 --> 00:13:53,232  detectives turned to the camera    found on the bedside table    291 00:13:53,232 --> 00:13:54,934   next to Bobbe's body,          292 00:13:54,934 --> 00:13:58,204   hoping it may contain            evidence of her final hours.   293 00:13:58,204 --> 00:14:01,240   -We had our film lab process   the film that was in it,         294 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,276  and all it was                     was pictures of the people    295 00:14:04,276 --> 00:14:06,278  at the Christmas party.         296 00:14:06,278 --> 00:14:09,014 The one picture,                  there was a single guy.         297 00:14:10,115 --> 00:14:14,253    He was by himself,            but nobody knew who the guy was. 298 00:14:14,253 --> 00:14:15,588    ♪♪                            299 00:14:15,588 --> 00:14:17,323  -Investigators find it unusual  300 00:14:17,323 --> 00:14:20,726    that no one claimed to know     this lone individual           301 00:14:20,726 --> 00:14:22,761 that was at their private party. 302 00:14:22,761 --> 00:14:26,432  -I was sitting at my desk, and   I had the pictures spread out,  303 00:14:26,432 --> 00:14:30,603  and one of my partners            happened to walk by my desk,   304 00:14:30,603 --> 00:14:35,007  and he took the picture to show to some other detectives.        305 00:14:35,007 --> 00:14:36,809    And an hour later,              he came back with a picture.   306 00:14:36,809 --> 00:14:39,778    He says, "The guy's name's      on the back of the picture."   307 00:14:39,778 --> 00:14:41,280    ♪♪                            308 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:42,815    Darrell Robertson.            309 00:14:42,815 --> 00:14:44,283    ♪♪                            310 00:14:44,283 --> 00:14:47,353  -This guy at the party             that they can't identify --   311 00:14:47,353 --> 00:14:50,623   he turned out                   to be a well-known drug dealer. 312 00:14:50,623 --> 00:14:53,259 -I found                            he had been just picked up    313 00:14:53,259 --> 00:14:54,960    for distribution of cocaine   314 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:58,264   and was actually in custody,   315 00:14:58,264 --> 00:15:00,299   so I had him brought           to headquarters,                 316 00:15:00,299 --> 00:15:02,701   where I could interview him.   317 00:15:02,701 --> 00:15:04,403   When I first sat down            and told him                   318 00:15:04,403 --> 00:15:06,038   what I wanted                    to talk to him about,          319 00:15:06,038 --> 00:15:08,307  he said he didn't have          anything to say.                 320 00:15:08,307 --> 00:15:11,343    And I said,                      "Well, if you're the person   321 00:15:11,343 --> 00:15:13,312 that supplied the cocaine        322 00:15:13,312 --> 00:15:15,314   that might have caused death,  323 00:15:15,314 --> 00:15:17,283 as far as this case goes,        324 00:15:17,283 --> 00:15:18,851  you can be a defendant,         325 00:15:18,851 --> 00:15:21,420 or you can be a witness."        326 00:15:21,420 --> 00:15:22,655    ♪♪                            327 00:15:22,655 --> 00:15:25,791 -He was concerned                   he was gonna get jacked up    328 00:15:25,791 --> 00:15:28,327   on homicide charges,           329 00:15:28,327 --> 00:15:33,165   so he decided                    that it was prudent to talk.   330 00:15:33,165 --> 00:15:34,667    ♪♪                            331 00:15:34,667 --> 00:15:36,201    -And that's when he admits    332 00:15:36,201 --> 00:15:39,338 that he was at the party         to sell cocaine.                 333 00:15:39,338 --> 00:15:40,739    ♪♪                            334 00:15:40,739 --> 00:15:44,343   -He indicated                  that he had sold Ed Amos         335 00:15:44,343 --> 00:15:46,211    a half an ounce of cocaine    336 00:15:46,211 --> 00:15:49,648  and Ed had paid him $200 cash.  337 00:15:49,648 --> 00:15:50,916    ♪♪                            338 00:15:50,916 --> 00:15:53,819  The importance                  of identifying Darrell Robertson 339 00:15:53,819 --> 00:15:56,889  and the fact that he delivered   the cocaine to Ed Amos          340 00:15:56,889 --> 00:15:58,257 on the day of the party,         341 00:15:58,257 --> 00:16:03,462 as Ed had said that Bobbe        had procured the cocaine         342 00:16:03,462 --> 00:16:05,731  and brought it with her           from Indiana.                  343 00:16:05,731 --> 00:16:07,066    ♪♪                            344 00:16:07,066 --> 00:16:10,502  And then, before we figure out   the next move,                  345 00:16:10,502 --> 00:16:11,937  we started getting phone calls  346 00:16:11,937 --> 00:16:14,540 about the death of Bobbe.        347 00:16:14,540 --> 00:16:15,874    ♪♪                            348 00:16:15,874 --> 00:16:17,977   -When word gets back              to Anderson                   349 00:16:17,977 --> 00:16:22,448 that Bobbe Amos has died         mysteriously in Detroit,         350 00:16:22,448 --> 00:16:27,019  a lot of people started         discussing Ed Amos and his past. 351 00:16:27,019 --> 00:16:29,755    -We received several calls       from people                   352 00:16:29,755 --> 00:16:32,858    indicating that you should      really look into her husband,  353 00:16:32,858 --> 00:16:34,193 Ed Amos,                         354 00:16:34,193 --> 00:16:35,861   'cause this is his third wife  355 00:16:35,861 --> 00:16:38,831    that's died                     under unusual circumstances.   356 00:16:38,831 --> 00:16:46,205    ♪♪                            357 00:16:47,506 --> 00:16:52,878    ♪♪                            358 00:16:52,878 --> 00:16:55,681    -Within a few weeks              of the death of Bobbe Amos,   359 00:16:55,681 --> 00:16:57,750   as they await                     toxicology results,           360 00:16:57,750 --> 00:16:59,852  Detroit police receive             information                   361 00:16:59,852 --> 00:17:03,522   that could be crucial            to the case.                   362 00:17:03,522 --> 00:17:04,990  -We started getting phone calls 363 00:17:04,990 --> 00:17:07,126  from Anderson, Indiana,         364 00:17:07,126 --> 00:17:10,195  that Ed's two prior wives died  365 00:17:10,195 --> 00:17:12,431   under unusual circumstances.   366 00:17:12,431 --> 00:17:14,767    So I called                      Anderson Police Department,   367 00:17:14,767 --> 00:17:17,269 and they connected me with Mike. 368 00:17:18,203 --> 00:17:22,541    -My first contact with Pat      was by phone.                  369 00:17:22,541 --> 00:17:24,476  We were able to confirm         370 00:17:24,476 --> 00:17:28,947   that both his first two wives  had died.                        371 00:17:28,947 --> 00:17:33,185  -So, a little over three weeks    after Bobbe's death,           372 00:17:33,185 --> 00:17:34,953  I went down to Indiana          373 00:17:34,953 --> 00:17:38,390  and we started delving             into it a little bit more.    374 00:17:38,390 --> 00:17:39,591    ♪♪                            375 00:17:39,591 --> 00:17:41,527    -Police learn that in 1965,   376 00:17:41,527 --> 00:17:44,797    22-year-old Ed Amos married    his first wife,                 377 00:17:44,797 --> 00:17:46,632    23-year-old Saundra Heard,    378 00:17:46,632 --> 00:17:48,500   in Anderson, Indiana.          379 00:17:48,500 --> 00:17:51,236 -At the time of Saundra's death, 380 00:17:51,236 --> 00:17:52,838 I was a detective                381 00:17:52,838 --> 00:17:54,540  in the Anderson                 Police Department                382 00:17:54,540 --> 00:17:56,408 for probably two months.         383 00:17:56,408 --> 00:17:59,244  Ed just started                    at General Motors,            384 00:17:59,244 --> 00:18:01,713 and Saundra was a schoolteacher. 385 00:18:01,713 --> 00:18:03,015 Ed and Saundra --                386 00:18:03,015 --> 00:18:05,951 they'd been married for 15 years  when she died.                  387 00:18:05,951 --> 00:18:07,419    ♪♪                            388 00:18:07,419 --> 00:18:10,856   -On the night                    of January 24, 1979,           389 00:18:10,856 --> 00:18:14,226  Anderson police receive          an emergency call from Ed Amos. 390 00:18:14,226 --> 00:18:16,595   He tells them                   that he found his wife deceased 391 00:18:16,595 --> 00:18:18,831  on the floor of their bathroom. 392 00:18:18,831 --> 00:18:21,467 -When the police officers         arrived with the EMTs,          393 00:18:21,467 --> 00:18:23,202  they confirmed                     that she was dead.            394 00:18:23,202 --> 00:18:24,970    ♪♪                            395 00:18:24,970 --> 00:18:27,439 They didn't see any signs         of a struggle,                  396 00:18:27,439 --> 00:18:29,475    but she's got a head wound.   397 00:18:29,475 --> 00:18:31,076 Ed tells the authorities         398 00:18:31,076 --> 00:18:34,413  that she fell and hit her head. 399 00:18:34,413 --> 00:18:35,781   -Ed's basic statement          400 00:18:35,781 --> 00:18:38,484 was that his wife                  had been out drinking          401 00:18:38,484 --> 00:18:41,887   and then, when she came home,    she had wine with Ed.          402 00:18:41,887 --> 00:18:45,557 She went upstairs                  to get ready for bed,          403 00:18:45,557 --> 00:18:49,528    and, a little while later,       he hears a "thunk."           404 00:18:49,528 --> 00:18:52,464   And he says he thought it was    the dog jumping off the bed,   405 00:18:52,464 --> 00:18:54,199  so he didn't go up immediately, 406 00:18:54,199 --> 00:18:56,335  but when he did go up,             he found her unresponsive.    407 00:18:56,335 --> 00:18:57,970    ♪♪                            408 00:18:57,970 --> 00:18:59,671 -There was an autopsy conducted, 409 00:18:59,671 --> 00:19:01,773 and the toxicology report        indicated                        410 00:19:01,773 --> 00:19:03,642 that there was, in fact,         411 00:19:03,642 --> 00:19:07,679    alcohol in her bloodstream.   412 00:19:07,679 --> 00:19:10,983 That would be consistent          with Ed's claim                 413 00:19:10,983 --> 00:19:13,652  that Saundra had been drinking. 414 00:19:13,652 --> 00:19:16,421  At the time of Saundra's death, 415 00:19:16,421 --> 00:19:20,659    there was no reason           for the police to suspect        416 00:19:20,659 --> 00:19:23,462  any foul play,                     given the evidence,           417 00:19:23,462 --> 00:19:26,932  so the cause of death was ruled 418 00:19:26,932 --> 00:19:29,201  as accidental.                  419 00:19:29,201 --> 00:19:30,569    ♪♪                            420 00:19:30,569 --> 00:19:33,939    -In 1980, just over a year     after Saundra's death,          421 00:19:33,939 --> 00:19:37,476    Ed marries his second wife,   Carolyn Traylor,                 422 00:19:37,476 --> 00:19:41,180 -There was the suspicion            that he was dating Carolyn    423 00:19:41,180 --> 00:19:44,116    while he was still married       to Saundra.                   424 00:19:44,116 --> 00:19:45,951 -They met through                 General Motors.                 425 00:19:45,951 --> 00:19:48,820 They got together                   and moved to Henry County,    426 00:19:48,820 --> 00:19:51,490 not too far away.                427 00:19:51,490 --> 00:19:53,192  -The marriage lasts nine years, 428 00:19:53,192 --> 00:19:56,195  until the night                 of April 6, 1989,                429 00:19:56,195 --> 00:19:57,963   when the Henry County          Sheriff's Office                 430 00:19:57,963 --> 00:20:01,300   receives another call            from Ed Amos.                  431 00:20:01,300 --> 00:20:04,303   -When Henry County Sheriff's     Department responded,          432 00:20:04,303 --> 00:20:07,539 they found Carolyn on the floor. 433 00:20:07,539 --> 00:20:08,807    ♪♪                            434 00:20:08,807 --> 00:20:12,077  Ed had told the police          on this particular night         435 00:20:12,077 --> 00:20:14,880   he and Carolyn had gone out.   436 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,616   They came back to the house.   437 00:20:17,616 --> 00:20:20,052  Carolyn was still having wine,  438 00:20:20,052 --> 00:20:23,255  and she retired                   to get ready for bed.          439 00:20:23,255 --> 00:20:25,958 -Ed told the responding officers 440 00:20:25,958 --> 00:20:28,760  that she went upstairs            to get ready for bed,          441 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:33,832   and he said, "I heard           a thunk on the floor up there.  442 00:20:33,832 --> 00:20:37,269 I thought it was the dog           jumping off the bed."          443 00:20:38,136 --> 00:20:39,972   -At some point in time later,  444 00:20:39,972 --> 00:20:42,474  Ed went in to check on Carolyn  445 00:20:42,474 --> 00:20:44,610    and found her on the floor    446 00:20:44,610 --> 00:20:46,078   unresponsive.                  447 00:20:46,078 --> 00:20:47,312    ♪♪                            448 00:20:47,312 --> 00:20:48,847  -At Carolyn's autopsy,          449 00:20:48,847 --> 00:20:51,383   the coroner is unable to find   any conclusive evidence         450 00:20:51,383 --> 00:20:53,151    as to how she died.           451 00:20:53,151 --> 00:20:55,153   -The autopsy                    didn't reveal anything          452 00:20:55,153 --> 00:20:56,722 as to the cause of death,        453 00:20:56,722 --> 00:20:59,725 so, as a result,                    the death was ruled           454 00:20:59,725 --> 00:21:01,793   at that point in time          as undetermined.                 455 00:21:01,793 --> 00:21:03,095    ♪♪                            456 00:21:03,095 --> 00:21:05,097 -We've got more than one          police agency involved.         457 00:21:05,097 --> 00:21:07,866    You've got Anderson dealing     with the first wife's death,   458 00:21:07,866 --> 00:21:09,534  and now you've got Henry County 459 00:21:09,534 --> 00:21:11,803   dealing with                   the second wife's death.         460 00:21:11,803 --> 00:21:14,072 -At the time of Carolyn's death, 461 00:21:14,072 --> 00:21:17,442    we did make contact              with Henry County,            462 00:21:17,442 --> 00:21:21,513   but there was                    no shared information          463 00:21:21,513 --> 00:21:23,515   before Bobbe's death.          464 00:21:23,515 --> 00:21:27,085 Ed was considered                   a possible suspect,           465 00:21:27,085 --> 00:21:30,722   but the investigation          just dried up --                 466 00:21:30,722 --> 00:21:32,457    became a cold case.           467 00:21:32,457 --> 00:21:34,026    ♪♪                            468 00:21:34,026 --> 00:21:38,497    -When we were looking back     at everything in 1994,          469 00:21:38,497 --> 00:21:40,032  it was uncanny,                 470 00:21:40,032 --> 00:21:42,234   his accounts                    to responding officers          471 00:21:42,234 --> 00:21:44,770  at two different scenes           years apart,                   472 00:21:44,770 --> 00:21:47,205  with the same verbiage           in each report.                 473 00:21:47,205 --> 00:21:49,374 "We were having a drink.            She went upstairs.            474 00:21:49,374 --> 00:21:51,310    "I heard a thunk...           475 00:21:51,310 --> 00:21:54,046   and I thought it was             the dog jumping off the bed."  476 00:21:54,046 --> 00:21:56,548  Same thing both times.          477 00:21:56,548 --> 00:22:00,018    After that, we felt           that he could be involved        478 00:22:00,018 --> 00:22:03,021  in the murders                   of his first two wives.         479 00:22:03,021 --> 00:22:04,323    ♪♪                            480 00:22:04,323 --> 00:22:06,325    -You lose one wife,            it's a tough situation.         481 00:22:06,325 --> 00:22:08,260   You lose two,                    that's even tougher.           482 00:22:08,260 --> 00:22:09,594 But three times?                 483 00:22:09,594 --> 00:22:11,096    That's a red flag.            484 00:22:11,096 --> 00:22:13,565   -After digging deeper            into Ed's background,          485 00:22:13,565 --> 00:22:16,134    detectives realize            it wasn't just his wives         486 00:22:16,134 --> 00:22:18,970  who died under                  suspicious circumstances.        487 00:22:18,970 --> 00:22:21,440   -A few months before           Carolyn's death,                 488 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,943    Ed had been living             with his mother                 489 00:22:24,943 --> 00:22:27,412 for a few weeks.                 490 00:22:27,412 --> 00:22:29,881 She was an elderly woman.        491 00:22:29,881 --> 00:22:33,085 She lived alone,                    and, at some point in time,   492 00:22:33,085 --> 00:22:36,922  he called and reported            that his mother was deceased.  493 00:22:36,922 --> 00:22:38,457    ♪♪                            494 00:22:38,457 --> 00:22:40,926   -There was no autopsy          performed on Ed's mother         495 00:22:40,926 --> 00:22:42,594    because of her age.           496 00:22:42,594 --> 00:22:44,596 She was in her later 70s,        497 00:22:44,596 --> 00:22:49,668    so they put it down           as sudden natural death.         498 00:22:49,668 --> 00:22:53,972   -A reasonable person's got to  look at the big picture and say, 499 00:22:53,972 --> 00:22:57,909 "You got this one person         that all these stories --        500 00:22:57,909 --> 00:22:59,878  Something's not right."         501 00:23:01,046 --> 00:23:02,781    -You got to wonder            502 00:23:02,781 --> 00:23:06,385  whether you're actually           dealing with a serial killer   503 00:23:06,385 --> 00:23:11,156    or somebody that is              just unbelievably unlucky.    504 00:23:11,156 --> 00:23:12,591    -As police consider           505 00:23:12,591 --> 00:23:16,194   that these accidental deaths   may actually be murders,         506 00:23:16,194 --> 00:23:19,698 they discover a possible          common motive -- money.         507 00:23:19,698 --> 00:23:21,266    -During the investigation,    508 00:23:21,266 --> 00:23:23,268   we found that Ed had received  509 00:23:23,268 --> 00:23:24,503  $25,000                         510 00:23:24,503 --> 00:23:26,004   from a life-insurance policy   511 00:23:26,004 --> 00:23:29,508 regarding his first wife,        Saundra's, death.                512 00:23:29,508 --> 00:23:32,377 Ed had received $400,000         513 00:23:32,377 --> 00:23:34,679  in life-insurance funds         514 00:23:34,679 --> 00:23:37,315   from Carolyn,                  his second wife's death.         515 00:23:37,315 --> 00:23:40,986   And regarding                     his mother's death,           516 00:23:40,986 --> 00:23:44,589 he received $1.3 million         517 00:23:44,589 --> 00:23:47,426 that he split with his siblings. 518 00:23:47,426 --> 00:23:49,394  -Ed was making                    pretty decent money,           519 00:23:49,394 --> 00:23:51,396   but he liked to live            that lifestyle.                 520 00:23:51,396 --> 00:23:53,398   I think everybody had           that impression                 521 00:23:53,398 --> 00:23:57,702    that Ed lived maybe beyond      his financial means.           522 00:23:57,702 --> 00:24:00,205   -Police want to know           if Bobbe also had                523 00:24:00,205 --> 00:24:02,641  a life-insurance policy           going to Ed.                   524 00:24:02,641 --> 00:24:05,710    Not wanting to tip him off     about their growing suspicions, 525 00:24:05,710 --> 00:24:09,014 they reach out to Bobbe's family for information.                 526 00:24:09,014 --> 00:24:11,716    -Talking to Bobbe's family       about that,                   527 00:24:11,716 --> 00:24:14,052    we learned                     that Ed wasn't in line          528 00:24:14,052 --> 00:24:17,489   for any big insurance payoffs  529 00:24:17,489 --> 00:24:18,690    for Bobbe's death,            530 00:24:18,690 --> 00:24:21,259 but we found out                  through Bobbe's family          531 00:24:21,259 --> 00:24:24,796  that Bobbe was planning          on leaving Ed.                  532 00:24:24,796 --> 00:24:26,064    ♪♪                            533 00:24:26,064 --> 00:24:29,067 -Bobbe was going to divorce him, 534 00:24:29,067 --> 00:24:31,837  so, although Ed                    wasn't gonna derive           535 00:24:31,837 --> 00:24:34,673    any life-insurance proceeds      from Bobbe,                   536 00:24:34,673 --> 00:24:38,944    there is a financial angle     to this death.                  537 00:24:38,944 --> 00:24:40,745    -Does she get half            of the business he owns,         538 00:24:40,745 --> 00:24:42,814 half of any money                  in the bank account?           539 00:24:42,814 --> 00:24:46,318   I mean, all of a sudden, he's  looking at a huge financial hit. 540 00:24:46,318 --> 00:24:49,521   So, that was possibly           the motivation                  541 00:24:49,521 --> 00:24:51,389 for Ed to kill his wife.         542 00:24:51,389 --> 00:24:58,430    ♪♪                            543 00:24:59,731 --> 00:25:05,804    ♪♪                            544 00:25:05,804 --> 00:25:08,773   -Still unsure                   of exactly how Bobbe Amos died, 545 00:25:08,773 --> 00:25:11,209    police suspect her husband,   Ed Amos,                         546 00:25:11,209 --> 00:25:12,310   may have killed her.           547 00:25:12,310 --> 00:25:13,879 While continuing to investigate, 548 00:25:13,879 --> 00:25:15,780    they speak                       with Bobbe's family members   549 00:25:15,780 --> 00:25:18,617   to learn why she was planning    to leave Ed.                   550 00:25:18,617 --> 00:25:20,852  -Bobbe was getting away from Ed 551 00:25:20,852 --> 00:25:23,655    because she thought             he had been having an affair   552 00:25:23,655 --> 00:25:26,391  with an individual in Michigan. 553 00:25:26,391 --> 00:25:28,260   -Ed would spend a lot of time    in Detroit --                  554 00:25:28,260 --> 00:25:30,896   that's where he was starting    his business --                 555 00:25:30,896 --> 00:25:33,565  while Bobbe stayed in Anderson, 556 00:25:33,565 --> 00:25:35,133   so, through the week,          557 00:25:35,133 --> 00:25:37,769   he'd be up in Detroit             by himself.                   558 00:25:37,769 --> 00:25:40,005   -Bobbe had found out           559 00:25:40,005 --> 00:25:41,706  that his business trips         560 00:25:41,706 --> 00:25:44,175  were really not                   just business trips.           561 00:25:44,175 --> 00:25:45,544    ♪♪                            562 00:25:45,544 --> 00:25:47,546 -In early December 1994,         563 00:25:47,546 --> 00:25:49,915    just days before her death,   564 00:25:49,915 --> 00:25:51,383    Bobbe received a phone call   565 00:25:51,383 --> 00:25:53,919   from a woman                     claiming to be Ed's mistress.  566 00:25:53,919 --> 00:25:55,620 -She actually called her,        567 00:25:55,620 --> 00:25:58,123  and they'd had                     a long conversation           568 00:25:58,123 --> 00:25:59,925  about the relationship,         569 00:25:59,925 --> 00:26:01,960  and it was devastating          570 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,929    but not surprising,           571 00:26:03,929 --> 00:26:07,599    and Bobbe was just kind of,   572 00:26:07,599 --> 00:26:09,534   "It's over."                   573 00:26:09,534 --> 00:26:12,737  And we believe Ed knew          574 00:26:12,737 --> 00:26:15,173  Bobbe found out                 about the affair.                575 00:26:15,173 --> 00:26:18,476 Then, even though                 they are splitting up,          576 00:26:18,476 --> 00:26:20,312   Bobbe made a decision          577 00:26:20,312 --> 00:26:22,814 that she's going to go to          this Christmas party with Ed.  578 00:26:22,814 --> 00:26:26,217  It was just one of those things   that we wished she didn't go.  579 00:26:26,217 --> 00:26:29,254   -After learning that Ed Amos   was potentially having an affair 580 00:26:29,254 --> 00:26:30,855    when his wife died,           581 00:26:30,855 --> 00:26:33,024  investigators reach out            to the other woman            582 00:26:33,024 --> 00:26:35,460  to find out what she may know.  583 00:26:35,460 --> 00:26:38,096  -We learned from Bobbe's family 584 00:26:38,096 --> 00:26:41,733 that her name was                 Mary Zellinger.                 585 00:26:41,733 --> 00:26:43,468    ♪♪                            586 00:26:43,468 --> 00:26:46,104   -It was January 1995.          587 00:26:46,104 --> 00:26:47,872 I received a phone call,         588 00:26:47,872 --> 00:26:51,910   and it was Detective Henahan.  589 00:26:51,910 --> 00:26:54,412 He said,                            "I'd like to talk to you."    590 00:26:54,412 --> 00:26:57,849  He had told me                  that Bobbe Amos was dead,        591 00:26:57,849 --> 00:27:00,018 and I was just --                592 00:27:00,018 --> 00:27:02,153  My legs just gave out.          593 00:27:02,153 --> 00:27:04,189   I went to the floor.           594 00:27:04,189 --> 00:27:05,957    ♪♪                            595 00:27:05,957 --> 00:27:07,926  I was in shock.                 596 00:27:07,926 --> 00:27:09,461    ♪♪                            597 00:27:09,461 --> 00:27:11,696  -The next day,                   Mary goes to the police station 598 00:27:11,696 --> 00:27:14,599    to give a formal statement     about her relationship with Ed  599 00:27:14,599 --> 00:27:17,202  and what she knows about Bobbe. 600 00:27:17,202 --> 00:27:19,804   -She admitted that her and Ed  601 00:27:19,804 --> 00:27:21,606   had an intimate relationship   602 00:27:21,606 --> 00:27:23,241   but that it was over,          603 00:27:23,241 --> 00:27:26,845  and then she told me the story. 604 00:27:26,845 --> 00:27:29,814   -When I first came in contact    with Ed Amos,                  605 00:27:29,814 --> 00:27:33,218 I was working in                   the telecommunications field.  606 00:27:33,218 --> 00:27:37,088 We did a project together        for his company.                 607 00:27:37,088 --> 00:27:39,391  He was a little flirty,         608 00:27:39,391 --> 00:27:42,027   a very handsome man,           609 00:27:42,027 --> 00:27:44,529    and explained to me             that he was widowed,           610 00:27:44,529 --> 00:27:48,500  and I felt really sad for him,  611 00:27:48,500 --> 00:27:50,368 but I enjoyed his company          a great deal.                  612 00:27:50,368 --> 00:27:51,703    ♪♪                            613 00:27:51,703 --> 00:27:53,905    I live outside of Detroit,    614 00:27:53,905 --> 00:27:56,107  and Ed traveled back and forth  615 00:27:56,107 --> 00:27:59,077  from Indiana to Detroit            regularly,                    616 00:27:59,077 --> 00:28:02,647  and we began seeing each other  every other week,                617 00:28:02,647 --> 00:28:04,616   depending on                    what his projects were.         618 00:28:04,616 --> 00:28:09,087 It was a casual,                  very fun relationship,          619 00:28:09,087 --> 00:28:13,258  and that then continued         for a few years.                 620 00:28:13,258 --> 00:28:17,362 And then things changed.         621 00:28:17,362 --> 00:28:18,797    ♪♪                            622 00:28:18,797 --> 00:28:22,100  -She related to me that           there were a couple of times   623 00:28:22,100 --> 00:28:26,604   when she felt                     like she had been drugged.    624 00:28:26,604 --> 00:28:28,139   -One evening,                  625 00:28:28,139 --> 00:28:31,609   Ed invited me over after work   to have dinner,                 626 00:28:31,609 --> 00:28:34,345 and I didn't know                  if it was in the food          627 00:28:34,345 --> 00:28:36,514  or the alcohol,                 628 00:28:36,514 --> 00:28:39,651    but something wasn't right.   629 00:28:39,651 --> 00:28:41,653 I went into the bathroom,        630 00:28:41,653 --> 00:28:44,856 and I just began to vomit           violently,                    631 00:28:44,856 --> 00:28:46,658    and I was in so much pain,    632 00:28:46,658 --> 00:28:50,128 and I just wanted to die.        633 00:28:50,128 --> 00:28:53,264   It persisted, and --           and a week later,                634 00:28:53,264 --> 00:28:55,700   I finally made an appointment   with my doctor                  635 00:28:55,700 --> 00:28:58,103   and told him                     how violently ill I had been   636 00:28:58,103 --> 00:28:59,738    and it was just lingering.    637 00:28:59,738 --> 00:29:04,109   He did some bloodwork          and found nothing wrong.         638 00:29:04,109 --> 00:29:08,179   -She didn't know specifically   how she thinks he drugged her,  639 00:29:08,179 --> 00:29:09,881  but she felt that -- that way.  640 00:29:09,881 --> 00:29:11,783    -And it was very confusing.   641 00:29:11,783 --> 00:29:15,754 My sense was that                  he'd been using drugs on me,   642 00:29:15,754 --> 00:29:18,123    but it just didn't add up.    643 00:29:18,123 --> 00:29:20,592    I-I-I trusted him.            644 00:29:20,592 --> 00:29:23,428  I knew he cared for me.         645 00:29:23,428 --> 00:29:25,597    -Mary tells police            she pushed aside                 646 00:29:25,597 --> 00:29:27,966    any doubts she had              about Ed's character           647 00:29:27,966 --> 00:29:31,302   until she discovered             a disturbing secret.           648 00:29:31,302 --> 00:29:33,605   -It was in the fall of 1994.   649 00:29:33,605 --> 00:29:36,007    I noticed his dry cleaning,   650 00:29:36,007 --> 00:29:39,544  and I looked at the tag            from the cleaners,            651 00:29:39,544 --> 00:29:41,546  and I saw this name --          652 00:29:41,546 --> 00:29:43,148    Bobbe Amos.                   653 00:29:43,148 --> 00:29:44,716    ♪♪                            654 00:29:44,716 --> 00:29:48,820 When I saw that,                   I realized that he's married!  655 00:29:48,820 --> 00:29:49,988    ♪♪                            656 00:29:49,988 --> 00:29:52,557 -That caused her                 to be suspicious                 657 00:29:52,557 --> 00:29:55,994   and start questioning things.  658 00:29:55,994 --> 00:29:59,631   -But I didn't tell Ed           I saw that tag.                 659 00:29:59,631 --> 00:30:02,433  I wanted to see                  how things played out.          660 00:30:02,433 --> 00:30:05,804   And so we had dinner             that evening,                  661 00:30:05,804 --> 00:30:09,007  and he may have noticed          something's different,          662 00:30:09,007 --> 00:30:11,442    but he looked at me           663 00:30:11,442 --> 00:30:16,314    and said, "You need to get    far away from me                 664 00:30:16,314 --> 00:30:18,683    because I'm a bad dude"...    665 00:30:18,683 --> 00:30:20,018    ♪♪                            666 00:30:20,018 --> 00:30:23,221   ...with just                     a kind of dead stare.          667 00:30:23,221 --> 00:30:25,156  It sent a chill down my spine.  668 00:30:25,156 --> 00:30:29,727  The voice that he used,          the look on his face --         669 00:30:29,727 --> 00:30:33,898 I have never felt                such evilness in my life,        670 00:30:33,898 --> 00:30:36,167    and that was the last time    I saw Ed.                        671 00:30:36,167 --> 00:30:37,468   I-I was done.                  672 00:30:37,468 --> 00:30:39,938   -That's why she made           the phone call to Bobbe.         673 00:30:39,938 --> 00:30:43,775  -I went through                  all the information that I had  674 00:30:43,775 --> 00:30:45,076    from Ed's business,           675 00:30:45,076 --> 00:30:47,745 and, eventually,                  I came across a number          676 00:30:47,745 --> 00:30:51,916 that I felt was probably          a home number.                  677 00:30:51,916 --> 00:30:54,919 So I called that number,         678 00:30:54,919 --> 00:30:58,790   and Bobbe answered the phone,     and I said,                   679 00:30:58,790 --> 00:31:01,759 "My name is Mary,                and I want you to know who I am, 680 00:31:01,759 --> 00:31:04,429  and I want you to know             that I did not know           681 00:31:04,429 --> 00:31:07,198   that you were married            to Ed Amos."                   682 00:31:07,198 --> 00:31:12,403 And then I said,                   "You need to be very afraid.   683 00:31:12,403 --> 00:31:14,372    I think you're in danger."    684 00:31:14,372 --> 00:31:18,576 I felt like I was trying           to help her,                   685 00:31:18,576 --> 00:31:22,447   but I knew she wasn't          going to trust me or believe me. 686 00:31:22,447 --> 00:31:24,382 And then that call ended,        687 00:31:24,382 --> 00:31:27,518  and that was December 1, 1994,  688 00:31:27,518 --> 00:31:30,788  and so 10 days                   after I made that call to her,  689 00:31:30,788 --> 00:31:32,624   she -- she was dead.           690 00:31:32,624 --> 00:31:34,592    ♪♪                            691 00:31:34,592 --> 00:31:37,128   There's no words to describe   692 00:31:37,128 --> 00:31:39,397  the dirtiness,                  693 00:31:39,397 --> 00:31:41,432    the self-loathing.            694 00:31:41,432 --> 00:31:43,868    ♪♪                            695 00:31:43,868 --> 00:31:46,237  [ Voice breaking ] I felt so... 696 00:31:46,237 --> 00:31:47,906   [ Sniffling ]                  697 00:31:47,906 --> 00:31:50,108  ...responsible                  698 00:31:50,108 --> 00:31:52,343 that I couldn't do more.         699 00:31:52,343 --> 00:31:53,945    [ Crying ]                    700 00:31:53,945 --> 00:31:59,350    ♪♪                            701 00:31:59,350 --> 00:32:02,220    -Soon after hearing Mary's       harrowing account,            702 00:32:02,220 --> 00:32:06,190   investigators receive             Bobbe's toxicology report.    703 00:32:06,190 --> 00:32:08,660 -The blood cocaine level         704 00:32:08,660 --> 00:32:11,629   on an average fatal overdose   705 00:32:11,629 --> 00:32:13,631   would have been 0.25.          706 00:32:13,631 --> 00:32:16,167    Bobbe's blood cocaine level   707 00:32:16,167 --> 00:32:18,770 was 5.7,                         708 00:32:18,770 --> 00:32:23,408    which put 15 times            the amount it would take         709 00:32:23,408 --> 00:32:25,109   for a fatal overdose.          710 00:32:25,109 --> 00:32:27,478   -The medical examiner           also explained                  711 00:32:27,478 --> 00:32:30,481   there would be no way          712 00:32:30,481 --> 00:32:33,084   for Bobbe to self-administer   713 00:32:33,084 --> 00:32:34,686  that amount of cocaine.         714 00:32:34,686 --> 00:32:37,221 -He said, "She'd have passed out 715 00:32:37,221 --> 00:32:39,590    long before                      she could have ever gotten    716 00:32:39,590 --> 00:32:42,293 that much cocaine                into her system."                717 00:32:42,293 --> 00:32:43,227    ♪♪                            718 00:32:43,227 --> 00:32:45,229   -The medical examiner          719 00:32:45,229 --> 00:32:49,300    was able to confirm             that there was no accidental   720 00:32:49,300 --> 00:32:52,670  or potentially suicidal            explanation                   721 00:32:52,670 --> 00:32:54,339    for Bobbe's death,            722 00:32:54,339 --> 00:32:56,207  so her manner of death          723 00:32:56,207 --> 00:32:59,043   was then changed to homicide.  724 00:32:59,043 --> 00:33:00,244    ♪♪                            725 00:33:00,244 --> 00:33:03,348  -It was a very big revelation.  726 00:33:03,348 --> 00:33:05,316    We were on the right track.   727 00:33:05,316 --> 00:33:07,585  We had, all along, felt           that Ed Amos                   728 00:33:07,585 --> 00:33:09,954 was not only responsible         for Bobbe's death                729 00:33:09,954 --> 00:33:12,690  but his two prior wives         730 00:33:12,690 --> 00:33:14,459 and possibly his mother.         731 00:33:14,459 --> 00:33:15,460    ♪♪                            732 00:33:15,460 --> 00:33:17,028 And I wanted to make sure        733 00:33:17,028 --> 00:33:20,198  that he didn't get away            with murder again.            734 00:33:20,198 --> 00:33:23,801  Now we had to gather up            the evidence and prove it.    735 00:33:23,801 --> 00:33:30,274    ♪♪                            736 00:33:32,243 --> 00:33:37,782    ♪♪                            737 00:33:37,782 --> 00:33:40,118   -Shortly after Bobbe's death     is ruled a homicide,           738 00:33:40,118 --> 00:33:43,187   detectives learn the results      of the forensic examination   739 00:33:43,187 --> 00:33:46,057   of the water-soaked bedsheet     that she was found on          740 00:33:46,057 --> 00:33:47,358    at the crime scene.           741 00:33:47,358 --> 00:33:51,496    -There was evidence              of cocaine solution           742 00:33:51,496 --> 00:33:55,099 that had been on the bed            with Bobbe.                   743 00:33:55,099 --> 00:33:56,601    ♪♪                            744 00:33:56,601 --> 00:33:59,704  -Our theory was                 that the cocaine                 745 00:33:59,704 --> 00:34:01,939 was liquefied with water         746 00:34:01,939 --> 00:34:04,842  and Ed administered it           into her system                 747 00:34:04,842 --> 00:34:07,278    enough to kill her,           748 00:34:07,278 --> 00:34:10,948  possibly using                    an oversized syringe.          749 00:34:10,948 --> 00:34:12,083    ♪♪                            750 00:34:12,083 --> 00:34:13,985  -Needing hard evidence            or a witness                   751 00:34:13,985 --> 00:34:15,553 to back up their theory,         752 00:34:15,553 --> 00:34:19,390    investigators turn back to      Ed's employee Daniel Porcasi,  753 00:34:19,390 --> 00:34:21,726    who they believe knows more   than he is saying                754 00:34:21,726 --> 00:34:23,928    about the night Bobbe died.   755 00:34:23,928 --> 00:34:27,231 -When I initially                was interviewing Porcasi,        756 00:34:27,231 --> 00:34:29,267    he seemed nervous.            757 00:34:29,267 --> 00:34:30,802 I got the opinion                758 00:34:30,802 --> 00:34:33,905   that maybe he didn't want to     be accused of being involved   759 00:34:33,905 --> 00:34:36,340    in -- in narcotics            760 00:34:36,340 --> 00:34:37,608 or Bobbe's death.                761 00:34:37,608 --> 00:34:39,210 So I had him come                to headquarters,                 762 00:34:39,210 --> 00:34:41,345   where I could interview him.   763 00:34:41,345 --> 00:34:44,549   -Ultimately, Porcasi admitted  764 00:34:44,549 --> 00:34:47,785 that he had removed a bag        765 00:34:47,785 --> 00:34:49,887 from Ed Amos's hotel room        766 00:34:49,887 --> 00:34:52,423 the morning of the death.        767 00:34:52,423 --> 00:34:53,724    ♪♪                            768 00:34:53,724 --> 00:34:56,427  -That morning,                    before the officers arrived,   769 00:34:56,427 --> 00:35:01,032  Ed called and told him, "I need   you to come to my room now."   770 00:35:01,032 --> 00:35:02,967   When Porcasi went down there,  771 00:35:02,967 --> 00:35:05,403  Ed gave him a small satchel --  772 00:35:05,403 --> 00:35:07,872 it's like                         a toilet-article kit --         773 00:35:07,872 --> 00:35:10,141 and said,                        "I need you to take this         774 00:35:10,141 --> 00:35:11,509 and get it out of here."         775 00:35:11,509 --> 00:35:15,012  Porcasi immediately checked out    of the room                   776 00:35:15,012 --> 00:35:16,614   and got out of there.          777 00:35:16,614 --> 00:35:19,083  -He's an employee, so his boss     says, "Hey, take the bag,"    778 00:35:19,083 --> 00:35:20,184   he takes it.                   779 00:35:20,184 --> 00:35:21,619    ♪♪                            780 00:35:21,619 --> 00:35:22,954  Later in that same day,         781 00:35:22,954 --> 00:35:27,024  Ed drives 40 miles away            to Daniel's house,            782 00:35:27,024 --> 00:35:28,559 collects the bag.                783 00:35:28,559 --> 00:35:31,062 -And we're like,                    "So, what was so important    784 00:35:31,062 --> 00:35:33,397   that he had to run out there     immediately to get it back?"   785 00:35:33,397 --> 00:35:35,566    And he said he didn't look.   786 00:35:35,566 --> 00:35:38,136  And my thought,                 787 00:35:38,136 --> 00:35:40,171   looking him right in the eye,  was like,                        788 00:35:40,171 --> 00:35:42,507 "Come on. Really?                789 00:35:42,507 --> 00:35:44,775 You didn't peek?"                790 00:35:44,775 --> 00:35:47,945  And, finally, he said,          yeah, he looked.                 791 00:35:47,945 --> 00:35:51,516   We asked him,                    "So, what was in it?           792 00:35:51,516 --> 00:35:53,985    What was in                     that little satchel?"          793 00:35:53,985 --> 00:35:57,889    -He says he found a syringe   794 00:35:57,889 --> 00:36:00,525  and a washcloth                 795 00:36:00,525 --> 00:36:02,793    that had some kind            of a stain on it.                796 00:36:02,793 --> 00:36:05,463  -He said it was a big syringe,  797 00:36:05,463 --> 00:36:07,565 and that helped prove our theory 798 00:36:07,565 --> 00:36:11,569 about how Ed administered           the cocaine to her            799 00:36:11,569 --> 00:36:12,904   with a large syringe.          800 00:36:12,904 --> 00:36:15,339 -Investigators are now confident 801 00:36:15,339 --> 00:36:17,875 they know what happened to Bobbe in the hotel room                802 00:36:17,875 --> 00:36:19,377    the night she died.           803 00:36:19,377 --> 00:36:21,445    -It's reasonable to assume    804 00:36:21,445 --> 00:36:25,783    that Ed had stuck something     in her drink                   805 00:36:25,783 --> 00:36:30,454   to cause her                      to further be incapacitated   806 00:36:30,454 --> 00:36:32,657  so she wouldn't resist.         807 00:36:32,657 --> 00:36:36,994 -He diluted half an ounce          of cocaine in water,           808 00:36:36,994 --> 00:36:38,930    which is a lot of cocaine,    809 00:36:38,930 --> 00:36:41,365   and then pulled it up          into the syringe                 810 00:36:41,365 --> 00:36:44,969 and injected it into her vagina. 811 00:36:44,969 --> 00:36:48,372   It would have entered             into her system right away,   812 00:36:48,372 --> 00:36:51,809 and she began to overdose        from it.                         813 00:36:51,809 --> 00:36:54,478   And then, of course,            he did some cleanup --          814 00:36:54,478 --> 00:36:58,115   put the syringe and the cloth  in that satchel,                 815 00:36:58,115 --> 00:37:00,418   called one of his employees,   816 00:37:00,418 --> 00:37:04,088   and he gave them that satchel    to take out.                   817 00:37:04,088 --> 00:37:07,758   -Ultimately,                    that bag was given back to Amos 818 00:37:07,758 --> 00:37:10,795 before the police                 had a chance to take it         819 00:37:10,795 --> 00:37:12,597  for possible evidence.          820 00:37:12,597 --> 00:37:14,565    -And then two hours later,    821 00:37:14,565 --> 00:37:16,734  Ed calls the desk at the hotel, 822 00:37:16,734 --> 00:37:18,736   saying his wife is deceased.   823 00:37:18,736 --> 00:37:20,004    He was diabolical.            824 00:37:20,004 --> 00:37:21,973  He knew exactly                   what he was gonna do,          825 00:37:21,973 --> 00:37:25,810    and he thought that           he would get away with it again. 826 00:37:25,810 --> 00:37:27,478   -We took about a year          827 00:37:27,478 --> 00:37:29,380 of putting all the pieces         of the puzzle together          828 00:37:29,380 --> 00:37:31,249    and getting                   to where we wanted to be         829 00:37:31,249 --> 00:37:33,918    as far as pursuing            the prosecution,                 830 00:37:33,918 --> 00:37:37,755    and then we got the warrant      for Amos's arrest.            831 00:37:37,755 --> 00:37:39,423    ♪♪                            832 00:37:39,423 --> 00:37:41,292    -In November 1995,            833 00:37:41,292 --> 00:37:43,227   investigators travel             to Las Vegas                   834 00:37:43,227 --> 00:37:45,863 to arrest Ed Amos                   for the first-degree murder   835 00:37:45,863 --> 00:37:47,765    of his wife, Bobbe.           836 00:37:47,765 --> 00:37:50,201  -Ed had relocated to Las Vegas, 837 00:37:50,201 --> 00:37:54,071    so I went to Vegas               to make the arrest.           838 00:37:54,071 --> 00:37:58,776 I told him, "You're under arrest  for the murder of Bobbe Amos."  839 00:37:58,776 --> 00:38:00,811 That's when I advised him         of his rights,                  840 00:38:00,811 --> 00:38:04,382    and he didn't want to make     any statements.                 841 00:38:04,382 --> 00:38:07,351    And then we put him              on a prisoner-transport bus   842 00:38:07,351 --> 00:38:08,653 back to Detroit.                 843 00:38:08,653 --> 00:38:11,522  -When Ed was finally arrested,  844 00:38:11,522 --> 00:38:12,757   the family --                  845 00:38:12,757 --> 00:38:15,660 we were relieved                 846 00:38:15,660 --> 00:38:17,862 and happy                        847 00:38:17,862 --> 00:38:19,997  but also afraid                 848 00:38:19,997 --> 00:38:23,434    that "Is he really gonna go      to jail this time?"           849 00:38:23,434 --> 00:38:31,175    ♪♪                            850 00:38:32,576 --> 00:38:38,249    ♪♪                            851 00:38:38,249 --> 00:38:40,117  -In September of 1996,          852 00:38:40,117 --> 00:38:42,920 nearly two years                 after Bobbe Amos's death,        853 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,089 the trial                         of her suspected killer         854 00:38:45,089 --> 00:38:47,658    and husband Ed Amos begins.   855 00:38:47,658 --> 00:38:49,894  -Michigan state law had changed 856 00:38:49,894 --> 00:38:53,597    not too long prior             to -- to Bobbe's death          857 00:38:53,597 --> 00:38:57,134  where that would allow            the prosecution to introduce   858 00:38:57,134 --> 00:39:00,271   what would be termed              as prior bad acts,            859 00:39:00,271 --> 00:39:03,040   even if they weren't charged      criminally.                   860 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:04,575    ♪♪                            861 00:39:04,575 --> 00:39:06,510  -That was huge.                 862 00:39:06,510 --> 00:39:07,878    ♪♪                            863 00:39:07,878 --> 00:39:11,816   That showed the jury             that there's a history here.   864 00:39:11,816 --> 00:39:16,087 -We had witnesses                from Indiana, Michigan --        865 00:39:16,087 --> 00:39:18,723  family members                     and Mary Zellinger            866 00:39:18,723 --> 00:39:20,224  up to testify.                  867 00:39:20,224 --> 00:39:21,525    ♪♪                            868 00:39:21,525 --> 00:39:24,595   -Testifying was hard,            but I had to do that.          869 00:39:24,595 --> 00:39:26,530    It was humiliating,             embarrassing,                  870 00:39:26,530 --> 00:39:30,434    to have had a relationship      with a very evil man.          871 00:39:30,434 --> 00:39:31,902  But, obviously,                 872 00:39:31,902 --> 00:39:35,106    sociopaths are chameleons.    873 00:39:35,106 --> 00:39:36,407    ♪♪                            874 00:39:36,407 --> 00:39:39,977 He thought he was smarter           than everyone else,           875 00:39:39,977 --> 00:39:43,481  and, probably, he laughed at us 876 00:39:43,481 --> 00:39:46,150  that we trusted                    or believed in him.           877 00:39:46,150 --> 00:39:47,518    ♪♪                            878 00:39:47,518 --> 00:39:50,888   They walk among us --           these perverted people.         879 00:39:50,888 --> 00:39:53,357    They will sweep you            off your feet.                  880 00:39:53,357 --> 00:39:55,726 They're charming,                881 00:39:55,726 --> 00:39:59,230 and they could be the one        that will take your life.        882 00:39:59,230 --> 00:40:01,599    ♪♪                            883 00:40:01,599 --> 00:40:03,667 -After three weeks of testimony, 884 00:40:03,667 --> 00:40:06,504   on October 24, 1996,           885 00:40:06,504 --> 00:40:09,173 the jury returns with a verdict. 886 00:40:09,173 --> 00:40:11,242 -We were shaking                 887 00:40:11,242 --> 00:40:12,476  because                         888 00:40:12,476 --> 00:40:14,311  we didn't know what to expect.  889 00:40:14,311 --> 00:40:15,613    ♪♪                            890 00:40:15,613 --> 00:40:18,582 And then when they said,            "Guilty"...                   891 00:40:18,582 --> 00:40:19,717    ♪♪                            892 00:40:19,717 --> 00:40:21,485   ...there was a cheer.          893 00:40:21,485 --> 00:40:25,022    There was such a...           894 00:40:25,022 --> 00:40:26,891    sigh of...                    895 00:40:26,891 --> 00:40:29,660    happiness,                      if there could be happiness,   896 00:40:29,660 --> 00:40:32,563   that this guy                     is off the streets.           897 00:40:32,563 --> 00:40:35,900   -Ed was found guilty            of first-degree murder          898 00:40:35,900 --> 00:40:39,036    in the death of Bobbe Amos    899 00:40:39,036 --> 00:40:41,839 and was sentenced                   to life in prison,            900 00:40:41,839 --> 00:40:43,107    no parole.                    901 00:40:43,107 --> 00:40:45,242    ♪♪                            902 00:40:45,242 --> 00:40:48,579  -I felt so much relief,         903 00:40:48,579 --> 00:40:50,481  joy...                          904 00:40:50,481 --> 00:40:53,350   that justice had been served   905 00:40:53,350 --> 00:40:57,054    and that he would never do       this again to anyone else,    906 00:40:57,054 --> 00:41:00,991  and that was --                  that was all we could ask for.  907 00:41:00,991 --> 00:41:03,994 -One of my first thoughts        when he was found guilty         908 00:41:03,994 --> 00:41:07,565    is I thought about               the family of Saundra Amos.   909 00:41:07,565 --> 00:41:10,067 I thought                         about Carolyn's family.         910 00:41:10,067 --> 00:41:12,369   I felt that there was            finally some closure in this   911 00:41:12,369 --> 00:41:15,840 and that a serial killer           got what he deserved.          912 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,908    ♪♪                            913 00:41:17,908 --> 00:41:20,878  -We put a lot of effort          and a lot of hard work into it. 914 00:41:20,878 --> 00:41:23,147    It's what they call            a career case.                  915 00:41:23,147 --> 00:41:26,650   Yeah, I'm --                      I'm happy with the results.   916 00:41:26,650 --> 00:41:29,687    -I'm proud                    to have been just a part         917 00:41:29,687 --> 00:41:32,056   of this whole investigation.   918 00:41:32,056 --> 00:41:34,225   It was a team effort,          919 00:41:34,225 --> 00:41:36,093  and, hopefully, Bobbe's family  920 00:41:36,093 --> 00:41:40,731    will have some sense of --      of closure, as well.           921 00:41:40,731 --> 00:41:53,978    ♪♪                            922 00:41:53,978 --> 00:41:56,213  -I have pictures of her           in the house,                  923 00:41:56,213 --> 00:41:59,350  and I just always talk to her,  924 00:41:59,350 --> 00:42:01,852   just telling her I miss her.   925 00:42:01,852 --> 00:42:03,621   So...                          926 00:42:05,322 --> 00:42:06,857   Okay.                          927 00:42:06,857 --> 00:42:10,561    ♪♪                            928 00:42:10,561 --> 00:42:11,996 It is sad                        929 00:42:11,996 --> 00:42:15,566  that we don't have her,         930 00:42:15,566 --> 00:42:18,235 but we have the memories         931 00:42:18,235 --> 00:42:21,472   and we still talk about her.   932 00:42:21,472 --> 00:42:24,108    So, I think that's             how we keep her alive.          933 00:42:24,108 --> 00:42:26,443  She always was                    such a bright light.           934 00:42:26,443 --> 00:42:30,848    ♪♪