1 00:00:07,763 --> 00:00:09,723 [audience applauding] 2 00:00:12,323 --> 00:00:14,563 [announcer]   All right.                   I gotta tell you, 3 00:00:14,603 --> 00:00:26,963 I'm real proud to introduce                 this next artist 4 00:00:27,003 --> 00:00:32,243 Ladies and gentlemen,                    Sinéad O'Connor. 5 00:00:38,923 --> 00:00:39,963 Thank you. 6 00:00:42,363 --> 00:00:46,763 -[videotape squeals]              -[boos and cheers continue] 7 00:01:10,523 --> 00:01:13,683 [mysterious music] 8 00:01:56,123 --> 00:02:01,843 [Sinéad]   I didn't mean                     to be strong. 9 00:02:04,963 --> 00:02:10,523 I did suffer through a lot              because everybody felt 10 00:02:12,363 --> 00:02:16,123 I regret that I was                  so sad because of it. 11 00:02:16,163 --> 00:02:20,123 I regret that I spent                     so many years 12 00:02:28,203 --> 00:02:32,323 Ran down                      And the lady said it 13 00:02:34,523 --> 00:02:44,843 Got burned down, ooh 14 00:02:47,723 --> 00:02:53,243 Oh, oh, Jerusalem 15 00:02:57,003 --> 00:03:02,523 Oh, oh, Jerusalem 16 00:03:02,563 --> 00:03:05,443 [roars] 17 00:03:10,243 --> 00:03:23,083 There was no therapy                 when I was growing up. 18 00:03:30,483 --> 00:03:36,163 Everybody in music has a story        in terms of their upbringing 19 00:03:37,923 --> 00:03:48,523 There's something they need             to get off their chest, 20 00:03:48,563 --> 00:03:51,323 They're all, they're all              looking at you, Sinéad, 21 00:03:51,363 --> 00:03:52,843 out there in television land. 22 00:03:52,883 --> 00:03:53,923 They're saying "Mother of God, 23 00:03:53,963 --> 00:04:26,443 what did she do with her head? 24 00:04:26,483 --> 00:04:28,283 That's a bit                     exaggerated actually. 25 00:04:28,323 --> 00:04:34,003 That's in one year, of course. 26 00:04:34,043 --> 00:04:58,883 Some scarlet ribbons 27 00:04:58,923 --> 00:05:11,763 and I was like, "Oh, my God." 28 00:05:11,803 --> 00:05:13,283 and makes me want                     to be a musician, 29 00:05:13,323 --> 00:05:17,203 and makes me                     want to be an artist, 30 00:05:17,243 --> 00:05:19,603 because of the song                "Gotta Serve Somebody." 31 00:05:19,643 --> 00:05:22,363 And I was obsessed               with Bob Dylan from then on. 32 00:05:31,883 --> 00:05:34,883 My mother had this               fantastic record collection 33 00:05:34,923 --> 00:05:38,683 which she would spread out             on the dining room table 34 00:05:41,323 --> 00:05:48,403 Her musical tastes                 ranged from John Lennon 35 00:05:48,443 --> 00:05:52,763 right through to, like,                  Porgy and Bess. 36 00:05:52,803 --> 00:05:54,523 That was all that                     was ever on telly, 37 00:05:54,563 --> 00:05:57,803 was these just high class                musicals, you know. 38 00:06:01,883 --> 00:06:06,283 My father was into cello, 39 00:06:10,483 --> 00:06:12,923 My parents separated                when I was quite young, 40 00:06:14,483 --> 00:06:16,203 and my mother                  was a very violent woman, 41 00:06:16,243 --> 00:06:18,363 not a healthy woman                     mentally at all. 42 00:06:18,403 --> 00:06:24,363 And she was physically 43 00:06:27,243 --> 00:06:31,403 [tense music] 44 00:06:31,443 --> 00:06:37,323 and I was able to soothe her                 with my voice, 45 00:06:39,443 --> 00:06:44,323 My father is the type                of man that didn't want 46 00:06:44,363 --> 00:06:45,963 It wasn't talked about,                 even in the family. 47 00:06:49,163 --> 00:06:52,203 The cause of my own abuse             was the church's effect 48 00:06:52,243 --> 00:06:56,763 on this country,               which had produced my mother. 49 00:06:59,203 --> 00:07:04,803 I spent my entire childhood                 being beaten up 50 00:07:04,843 --> 00:07:08,363 under which my mother grew up 51 00:07:08,403 --> 00:07:10,243 and under which her mother             and her mother grew up. 52 00:07:14,243 --> 00:07:17,163 I would compare Ireland                 to an abused child. 53 00:07:23,523 --> 00:07:33,243 I'd a terrible 54 00:07:34,963 --> 00:07:39,803 I'd a terrible 55 00:07:39,843 --> 00:07:47,843 Broken heart... 56 00:07:47,883 --> 00:07:49,723 that they were using                 to oppress my people. 57 00:07:52,963 --> 00:07:54,523 Why were my grandparents                    so miserable 58 00:07:54,563 --> 00:07:58,403 that they couldn't have a kiss 59 00:08:08,043 --> 00:08:22,843 [Father Brian]   The church                influenced everything. 60 00:08:25,003 --> 00:08:35,203 It affected                     every level of society. 61 00:08:35,243 --> 00:08:38,883 It was a mortal sin                 to eat meat on a Friday. 62 00:08:38,923 --> 00:08:41,683 You could go to hell for           eating a sausage on a Friday. 63 00:08:43,323 --> 00:08:45,483 Everything was gathered around 64 00:08:45,523 --> 00:08:48,403 the power of the church                   over its people. 65 00:08:51,043 --> 00:09:01,723 [Sinéad]   I had loved                   the Catholic church, 66 00:09:01,763 --> 00:09:07,083 That was a contract               with the holy spirit I made, 67 00:09:10,403 --> 00:09:13,123 [tense music] 68 00:09:21,323 --> 00:09:26,683 I went into care when I was 14, 69 00:09:28,243 --> 00:09:33,323 I was a bit messed up. 70 00:09:35,763 --> 00:09:39,163 I was unmanageable, really,      so they didn't want me at home. 71 00:09:42,483 --> 00:09:45,243 The place was called                     "An Grianan,"                   which means "The Sunrise." 72 00:09:47,443 --> 00:09:52,763 [Jeannette]   An Grianan was           a residential training centre 73 00:09:55,683 --> 00:10:02,003 The girls came                   from mixed backgrounds. 74 00:10:02,043 --> 00:10:05,323 Others had come from                insecure family settings 75 00:10:05,363 --> 00:10:07,523 and they needed somewhere             where there was structure 76 00:10:07,563 --> 00:10:09,723 and safety for a few years. 77 00:10:12,443 --> 00:10:16,043 [Sinéad]   They got                    a guitar teacher in 78 00:10:16,083 --> 00:10:20,763 who I still know                    and I still talk to                      now and then. 79 00:10:22,803 --> 00:10:31,163 [Jeannette]                   The first night, I was there 80 00:10:31,203 --> 00:10:34,683 because we were just stunned. 81 00:10:36,803 --> 00:10:39,563 We needed to encourage her            in this wonderful talent. 82 00:10:43,403 --> 00:10:45,763 Ooh, I'm freezing! 83 00:10:53,283 --> 00:11:01,363 [Jeannette]   When we decided                 to get married, 84 00:11:04,683 --> 00:11:22,163 One love 85 00:11:22,203 --> 00:11:25,363 It was stunning.                It was absolutely stunning. 86 00:11:31,963 --> 00:11:39,043 [Sinéad]   In the congregation           was her brother, Paul Byrne, 87 00:11:42,083 --> 00:11:48,563 [Paul]   We were                    searching for a singer. 88 00:11:48,603 --> 00:12:00,323 After chatting with Sinéad           on the steps of the church, 89 00:12:04,563 --> 00:12:09,643 So we went back up                      the next night                    and she sang it to us, 90 00:12:12,683 --> 00:12:18,283 We had to book                      a couple of hours                  on a Wednesday afternoon 91 00:12:18,323 --> 00:12:34,043 Picked her up, did two hours              of vocals with her, 92 00:12:34,083 --> 00:12:42,963 the nun, she could                    be terribly kind, 93 00:12:43,003 --> 00:12:52,523 She sent me to sleep                  in the hospice part                      of the laundry 94 00:12:52,563 --> 00:12:55,043 When I went up, there was       no staff there with the ladies. 95 00:12:55,083 --> 00:12:59,923 There was never                     any nuns or nurses. 96 00:12:59,963 --> 00:13:05,003 were lying in their beds               calling out for nurses                      all night 97 00:13:05,043 --> 00:13:07,363 I didn't know what to do,       and obviously, I was terrified. 98 00:13:16,283 --> 00:13:21,003 Take my hand 99 00:13:22,523 --> 00:13:25,123 [tense music] 100 00:13:29,243 --> 00:13:42,003 [Jeannette]   These women, 101 00:13:44,323 --> 00:13:54,403 Very often the cases were                they had been raped 102 00:13:56,523 --> 00:13:58,363 They had to pay the price 103 00:13:58,403 --> 00:13:59,683 and were locked away                 for their whole lives. 104 00:14:07,883 --> 00:14:13,683 [Sinéad]   The whole of Ireland           talks about these ladies, 105 00:14:19,443 --> 00:14:22,123 These people convinced my           father that they could help me 106 00:14:22,163 --> 00:14:31,723 with whatever                    behavioural issues I had 107 00:14:33,283 --> 00:14:39,443 The problems were compounded. 108 00:14:39,483 --> 00:14:42,803 My father, I'm sure               the world would acknowledge, 109 00:14:45,003 --> 00:14:49,443 Young woman                   With a drink in her hand 110 00:14:49,483 --> 00:14:59,803 She liked to listen                   To rock and roll 111 00:14:59,843 --> 00:15:03,883 'Cause it never gets old 112 00:15:05,443 --> 00:15:10,643 [Clodagh]   Sinéad                    and I met when we were 113 00:15:13,043 --> 00:15:17,363 We were very close                  for a number of years 114 00:15:19,363 --> 00:15:29,403 She really wanted                   to be doing her music. 115 00:15:31,483 --> 00:15:33,683 [Sinéad]   I put an ad                  in   Hot Press   magazine 116 00:15:33,723 --> 00:15:38,803 that I was a singer                     and I wanted to                     find a band to join. 117 00:15:38,843 --> 00:15:50,523 doing auditions for these              various different bands. 118 00:15:50,563 --> 00:15:53,283 I had a job at the Bad Ass Cafe                on Crown Alley, 119 00:15:53,323 --> 00:16:00,683 and we used to rehearse            right across the road from it. 120 00:16:02,803 --> 00:16:07,083 Nigel Grainge and Chris Hill              came over to Dublin 121 00:16:10,003 --> 00:16:22,683 [tense music] 122 00:16:22,723 --> 00:16:26,163 He said, "Well,                 why don't you come to London 123 00:16:48,283 --> 00:16:54,163 For five long years 124 00:16:55,843 --> 00:17:09,283 But I found out 125 00:17:11,123 --> 00:17:14,043 You treated me mean 126 00:17:14,083 --> 00:17:17,043 Oh, you treated me cruel 127 00:17:24,363 --> 00:17:31,163 [Mike]   I worked with Sinéad            from her arrival in London 128 00:17:35,163 --> 00:17:39,803 Our job as a sort of group           of musicians from the outset 129 00:17:39,843 --> 00:17:44,243 She'd already found her voice, 130 00:17:44,283 --> 00:17:48,203 that she wanted to wrap              around that amazing voice. 131 00:17:48,243 --> 00:17:51,483 [man] What's it called? 132 00:17:51,523 --> 00:18:01,003 [John]   So we went into              a rehearsal studio in Putney 133 00:18:01,043 --> 00:18:02,563 and rehearse for a long time. 134 00:18:06,603 --> 00:18:18,243 Nigel Grange was the head               of Ensign at the time. 135 00:18:19,923 --> 00:18:27,323 I'm just as guilty as you 136 00:18:30,363 --> 00:18:46,403 [John]   The first time                I heard Sinéad's voice, 137 00:18:46,443 --> 00:18:51,723 And 138 00:18:51,763 --> 00:18:57,283 I'm just as guilty as you 139 00:19:01,403 --> 00:19:05,203 [Sinéad]   You often                    hear artists saying 140 00:19:05,243 --> 00:19:19,683 I think actually                you're channelling yourself. 141 00:19:19,723 --> 00:19:22,843 There were kind of songs             to help her, to heal her. 142 00:19:27,323 --> 00:19:29,883 [Mike]   In some respects,            I think the band that we were, 143 00:19:29,923 --> 00:19:33,923 the band of musicians                  who were around her, 144 00:19:35,483 --> 00:19:36,683 We were safe. 145 00:19:42,563 --> 00:19:51,603 Fachtna O'Ceallaigh had been             Boomtown Rats' manager 146 00:19:51,643 --> 00:20:00,683 [reggae music] 147 00:20:00,723 --> 00:20:07,563 where he had                 his friend Lepkey, and Leroy. 148 00:20:12,843 --> 00:20:14,403 [Sinéad]   Bearing                      in mind I'm Irish 149 00:20:14,443 --> 00:20:17,483 and I've come                      from the theocracy, 150 00:20:17,523 --> 00:20:26,563 roaring about the Pope                    is the devil, 151 00:20:26,603 --> 00:20:28,763 [upbeat music] 152 00:20:33,403 --> 00:20:37,883 Love to everyone. You're back       in tune to The Rankin' Miss P, 153 00:20:37,923 --> 00:20:40,723 on DBC, the Dread                Broadcasting Corporation, 154 00:20:41,763 --> 00:20:44,563 103.8 every Friday. 155 00:20:46,323 --> 00:20:48,523 We're electric, y'all. 156 00:20:48,563 --> 00:20:51,563 [upbeat drum music] 157 00:20:56,723 --> 00:21:11,323 [John]   She was really shy 158 00:21:11,363 --> 00:21:12,763 just being kids, to be honest. 159 00:21:18,363 --> 00:21:23,883 [Mike]   Ensign wanted Sinéad            to be a musical commodity. 160 00:21:23,923 --> 00:21:34,243 [Sinéad]   They wanted me                to grow the hair long 161 00:21:34,283 --> 00:21:37,323 there used to be riots              in the streets over plays. 162 00:21:38,803 --> 00:21:40,683 That's what art is for. 163 00:21:43,323 --> 00:21:47,003 [Mike]   That led to her deciding         to shave off all her hair. 164 00:21:47,963 --> 00:21:50,843 [mysterious music] 165 00:22:07,243 --> 00:22:18,123 [Clodagh]   At the time, I was            her closest female friend. 166 00:22:18,163 --> 00:22:21,923 You got to look                   through the letter box, 167 00:22:21,963 --> 00:22:26,523 I looked through the letterbox             and there she was 168 00:22:27,843 --> 00:22:29,963 [dramatic music] 169 00:22:32,923 --> 00:22:40,483 [John]   The label were                  trying to brand Sinéad 170 00:22:43,883 --> 00:22:48,003 You just looked at                    somebody and went, 171 00:22:50,123 --> 00:22:54,723 It's a powerful statement           for a woman because she says, 172 00:22:59,763 --> 00:23:02,083 [Sinéad]   Me and John                 were friends for a year 173 00:23:02,123 --> 00:23:04,523 before, you know, we ever             went out with each other. 174 00:23:04,563 --> 00:23:08,123 We were both going out                with different people                    and everything. 175 00:23:08,163 --> 00:23:09,723 and then within a month                   I was pregnant. 176 00:23:13,323 --> 00:23:15,443 The record companies                     in those days                     had their own doctors 177 00:23:15,483 --> 00:23:24,363 that they sent you to. 178 00:23:26,043 --> 00:23:32,883 [Mike]   Ensign tried                     to dissuade her 179 00:23:32,923 --> 00:23:41,203 and thankfully, she               obviously stood her ground, 180 00:23:43,203 --> 00:23:48,443 [Sinéad]   That was                  the final straw for me. 181 00:23:51,523 --> 00:23:53,723 [Mike]   There was a big fallout. 182 00:23:53,763 --> 00:24:07,083 Fachtna O'Ceallaigh                  was working very hard 183 00:24:07,123 --> 00:24:13,243 telling me I owe it to them               to not have my baby. 184 00:24:13,283 --> 00:24:28,083 I just knew that I didn't              want any man telling me 185 00:24:28,123 --> 00:24:31,723 and I didn't take                     it from my daddy, 186 00:24:31,763 --> 00:24:33,283 Can I do two? 187 00:24:34,363 --> 00:24:36,723 [humming] 188 00:24:44,163 --> 00:24:52,443 [John]   The whole of                 "The Lion and the Cobra" 189 00:24:52,483 --> 00:25:05,043 The second version was fresher,           younger, and spontaneous. 190 00:25:09,003 --> 00:25:13,923 Hands, gimme love 191 00:25:18,363 --> 00:25:23,203 Hands, gimme those 192 00:25:26,243 --> 00:25:28,803 I want your 193 00:25:28,843 --> 00:25:30,283 Gimme, yes 194 00:25:33,443 --> 00:25:35,723 Gimme this 195 00:25:38,963 --> 00:25:44,403 [Sinéad]   When we got                  the first album cover, 196 00:25:46,763 --> 00:25:54,283 Put on the album and got me      to scream along with the album. 197 00:25:54,323 --> 00:25:58,003 because it was too                    aggressive-looking 198 00:25:58,043 --> 00:25:59,403 [Kate]   I didn't realize                that they'd have to do 199 00:25:59,443 --> 00:26:06,443 a different one for America. 200 00:26:06,483 --> 00:26:26,163 You know, that would                 scare too many people. 201 00:26:26,203 --> 00:26:31,723 this little girl with her            bald head and her big belly, 202 00:26:31,763 --> 00:26:35,403 [Peaches]   I think her image            screamed more than feminism, 203 00:26:35,443 --> 00:26:37,123 beyond feminism at the time. 204 00:26:37,163 --> 00:26:46,323 I think it was just                     like non-binary, 205 00:26:46,363 --> 00:26:51,083 Her fashion sense was like           35 years ahead of the time. 206 00:26:53,443 --> 00:27:03,163 [Maybury]   People found it              problematic just because 207 00:27:03,203 --> 00:27:05,403 but actually the beauty                   of her features, 208 00:27:05,443 --> 00:27:16,283 the quality of her eyes, 209 00:27:16,323 --> 00:27:22,483 [Sinéad]   Anytime I worked                 with John Maybury, 210 00:27:22,523 --> 00:27:27,123 The set makers, stylists,            the makeup people, you know, 211 00:27:27,163 --> 00:27:34,123 and they like                      genuinely adored me. 212 00:27:39,563 --> 00:27:44,083 I felt so safe                      and looked after. 213 00:27:46,683 --> 00:27:57,563 [relaxed music] 214 00:28:01,043 --> 00:28:11,443 [Maybury]   She recognized               in us kind of a sense of 215 00:28:11,483 --> 00:28:14,483 And she was free to be who           she wanted to be within that 216 00:28:14,523 --> 00:28:21,763 because everyone else was free        to be who they wanted to be. 217 00:28:21,803 --> 00:28:26,483 They were so inspiring                 and still are to me, 218 00:28:28,203 --> 00:28:30,123 You couldn't                      do that in Ireland. 219 00:28:30,163 --> 00:28:31,723 You'd have the shit kicked              out of you, you know? 220 00:28:35,163 --> 00:28:42,283 Let me live                      'neath your spell 221 00:28:42,323 --> 00:28:45,923 That you do so well 222 00:28:47,563 --> 00:28:52,443 For you do 223 00:28:52,483 --> 00:28:56,643 Something to me 224 00:28:56,683 --> 00:29:11,643 That nobody else 225 00:29:13,603 --> 00:29:19,083 Can do 226 00:29:19,123 --> 00:29:21,683 [crowd cheering] 227 00:29:27,483 --> 00:29:43,683 Why I like performing             and why I like singing loud 228 00:29:43,723 --> 00:29:53,283 At the end of my day 229 00:29:53,323 --> 00:29:58,803 Than I find that you're there                 When I wake 230 00:30:01,123 --> 00:30:07,723 Just like you                      Said it would be 231 00:30:09,683 --> 00:30:11,963 Just like you                      Said it would be 232 00:30:13,963 --> 00:30:16,563 Just like you                      Said it would be 233 00:30:18,203 --> 00:30:29,963 Will you be my lover? 234 00:30:32,963 --> 00:30:38,283 [Sinéad]   There are a lot              of songs that I've written 235 00:30:38,323 --> 00:30:40,603 And "    Troy,"   I think                   was the first one. 236 00:30:42,283 --> 00:30:48,963 It's also the first song                     I've wrote 237 00:30:51,563 --> 00:31:08,403 Dublin in a rainstorm 238 00:31:08,443 --> 00:31:17,483 So once when I was                    eight-and-a-half, 239 00:31:17,523 --> 00:31:22,403 the whole thing of sitting           in the long grass in summer 240 00:31:22,443 --> 00:31:26,323 So I'm out in the garden                in the fucking dark 241 00:31:26,363 --> 00:31:28,243 to this day, I don't mind               if it's day or night, 242 00:31:28,283 --> 00:31:30,803 but dusk, I don't like. 243 00:31:30,843 --> 00:31:34,963 And I'd be looking up                   at the only window 244 00:31:35,003 --> 00:31:39,083 and I'd be screaming,               begging her to let me in. 245 00:31:39,123 --> 00:31:40,763 the house go dark. 246 00:31:43,723 --> 00:31:47,843 Every other song I'm writing             is about somebody else 247 00:31:47,883 --> 00:31:50,363 "Troy"   is the first song                I've written about me. 248 00:31:50,403 --> 00:31:54,123 It's not a song,                 it's a fucking testament. 249 00:31:56,963 --> 00:32:04,603 And you should've                   Left the light on 250 00:32:04,643 --> 00:32:09,483 Then I wouldn't have tried            You'd never have known 251 00:32:12,763 --> 00:32:20,203 And I wouldn't have                  Pulled you tighter 252 00:32:20,243 --> 00:32:21,643 I wouldn't have screamed 253 00:32:21,683 --> 00:32:28,123 No, I can't let you go 254 00:32:28,163 --> 00:32:36,083 No, I wouldn't have                   Pulled you to me 255 00:32:36,123 --> 00:32:48,883 You wouldn't have                 Begged me to hold you 256 00:32:48,923 --> 00:32:57,763 Oh, oh 257 00:33:01,203 --> 00:33:02,963 "Troy"   is not safe. 258 00:33:03,003 --> 00:33:06,123 I don't need                     to dig that up again. 259 00:33:07,843 --> 00:33:10,243 There would've been                     no point writing 260 00:33:10,283 --> 00:33:17,043 and/or going around               the world screaming    "Troy" 261 00:33:20,163 --> 00:33:24,643 Make no difference                     What you say 262 00:33:24,683 --> 00:33:26,563 You're still a liar 263 00:33:28,763 --> 00:33:30,563 You're still a liar 264 00:33:32,723 --> 00:33:35,763 You're still a liar 265 00:33:42,283 --> 00:33:44,763 [crowd cheering] 266 00:33:49,283 --> 00:33:51,643 [John]   Sinéad was pregnant               all through the making 267 00:33:51,683 --> 00:33:53,283 of "The Lion and the Cobra." 268 00:33:53,323 --> 00:34:01,923 And I think in many                     ways, actually, 269 00:34:03,763 --> 00:34:08,123 There's nothing more deep               and real than a baby. 270 00:34:08,163 --> 00:34:20,243 And there's nothing more                fake and unimportant 271 00:34:20,283 --> 00:34:24,403 and a single   Mandinka                at 22 in the charts. 272 00:34:24,443 --> 00:34:26,643 [crowd cheering] 273 00:34:26,683 --> 00:34:28,403 [Clodagh]   I remember watching 274 00:34:28,443 --> 00:34:39,523 Sinéad on                        Top of the Pops. 275 00:34:40,963 --> 00:34:56,363 I'm dancing the seven veils 276 00:34:59,043 --> 00:35:01,243 [vocalizing] 277 00:35:09,683 --> 00:35:18,963 I don't know no shame 278 00:35:21,003 --> 00:35:25,883 But I do know Mandinka 279 00:35:28,643 --> 00:35:34,003 I do know Mandinka 280 00:35:36,283 --> 00:35:41,483 I do know Mandinka 281 00:35:43,523 --> 00:35:45,363 I do 282 00:35:48,003 --> 00:36:02,683 [John]   When   "Mandinka"                     was released, 283 00:36:04,203 --> 00:36:09,683 I said I do 284 00:36:11,043 --> 00:36:29,923 I swear I do... 285 00:36:29,963 --> 00:36:36,123 I just remember hearing              the voice and it's nothing 286 00:36:36,163 --> 00:36:41,883 Soon I can give                     You my heart... 287 00:36:46,963 --> 00:36:55,403 [crowd cheering] 288 00:36:55,443 --> 00:36:58,963 Telling me he'd be home 289 00:36:59,003 --> 00:37:23,883 Sailed the seas                   For a hundred years 290 00:37:23,923 --> 00:37:28,123 To me, it was like                    the whole package. 291 00:37:28,163 --> 00:37:31,843 He said, "Your Jackie's gone         We got lost in the rain" 292 00:37:31,883 --> 00:37:50,003 And I ran to the beach 293 00:37:50,043 --> 00:37:53,883 Laughing at you... 294 00:37:53,923 --> 00:37:58,203 there's an intensity, almost         a rage burning inside of you. 295 00:37:58,243 --> 00:38:12,483 You're a small, demure,               quiet sort of person. 296 00:38:12,523 --> 00:38:15,643 If you're a woman                in particular, and unless 297 00:38:15,683 --> 00:38:26,283 you're very sort of timid              and you want to make 298 00:38:31,443 --> 00:38:38,723 When I leave Ireland,               it's virtually unheard of 299 00:38:41,643 --> 00:38:51,643 The Irish fucking constitution         still contains the wording 300 00:38:51,683 --> 00:38:58,843 So many people in this country,              women in particular, 301 00:38:58,883 --> 00:39:01,723 or be open about their anger. 302 00:39:01,763 --> 00:39:04,843 At that time in Ireland, women        weren't allowed to be angry. 303 00:39:04,883 --> 00:39:06,683 And I think that might've             been hard for some of them 304 00:39:06,723 --> 00:39:08,683 because, you know,          they had spent their whole life 305 00:39:08,723 --> 00:39:13,083 saying no to themselves. 306 00:39:20,403 --> 00:39:27,083 [man]   Tonight, the Grammy               awards are presenting 307 00:39:27,123 --> 00:39:37,723 comes from Ireland              and with her very first album, 308 00:39:51,843 --> 00:40:07,003 I'm dancing the seven veils 309 00:40:07,043 --> 00:40:08,923 [John]   I remember talking to          her the next day and she said, 310 00:40:08,963 --> 00:40:18,803 "Oh, my God, I went                on stage and Stevie Wonder 311 00:40:18,843 --> 00:40:21,403 So this was quite a leap,                     you know. 312 00:40:21,443 --> 00:40:30,163 I don't know no shame 313 00:40:32,083 --> 00:40:37,763 But I do know Man-din-ka 314 00:40:39,763 --> 00:40:51,163 [Sinéad]   You know,           you're there and you're looking 315 00:40:51,203 --> 00:40:53,363 As I sang Mandinka,                 I had "Jake's baby girl" 316 00:40:53,403 --> 00:41:02,403 on the back of my pants                      and I had                     Public Enemy logo painted 317 00:41:04,843 --> 00:41:24,883 [Chuck D]   I protested                  the Grammy's in 1989 318 00:41:24,923 --> 00:41:28,083 that she was fake. 319 00:41:28,123 --> 00:41:34,403 she seriously                     has issues with this. 320 00:41:40,323 --> 00:41:47,763 [crowd cheering and clapping] 321 00:41:53,283 --> 00:42:00,043 [Sinéad]                       In one way, I loved it. 322 00:42:00,083 --> 00:42:08,003 In another way,                   I was frightened by it. 323 00:42:08,043 --> 00:42:15,803 this identity and I didn't           feel like it was really me. 324 00:42:15,843 --> 00:42:18,723 I couldn't understand why              anyone liked my records. 325 00:42:22,363 --> 00:42:27,003 Let me tell you                  how stupid I am. Um... 326 00:42:27,043 --> 00:42:42,643 We were sitting here                 doing this interview 327 00:42:42,683 --> 00:42:50,123 So now I'm doing it. 328 00:42:50,163 --> 00:42:55,963 because I want to wear               red knickers, you know? 329 00:42:56,003 --> 00:42:57,763 -No.                       -[mellow acoustic guitar] 330 00:43:05,723 --> 00:43:15,643 [John]   We got married               at the spiritualist centre                 in Sloane Square 331 00:43:15,683 --> 00:43:31,723 I'd lost my dad and a sister. 332 00:43:33,483 --> 00:43:35,883 [music playing] 333 00:43:44,283 --> 00:43:53,723 [Margo]   In 1989, we filmed            Hush-a-Bye Baby   in Derry. 334 00:43:55,523 --> 00:44:01,723 She came over with John. 335 00:44:01,763 --> 00:44:04,283 who was just a toddler                    at that stage. 336 00:44:04,323 --> 00:44:08,803 Of course, I only have                eyes for Lecce Loves. 337 00:44:08,843 --> 00:44:11,763 [both laugh] 338 00:44:11,803 --> 00:44:23,723 [both scream and laugh] 339 00:44:28,923 --> 00:44:40,323 [Margo]   We were trying              to contribute to the debate 340 00:44:40,363 --> 00:44:43,443 like so many thousands                   of other women, 341 00:44:43,483 --> 00:44:49,803 especially young women. 342 00:44:49,843 --> 00:45:02,563 and about the obvious                  trauma and awfulness 343 00:45:02,603 --> 00:45:12,003 And girls are made               to feel as if they're sluts 344 00:45:12,043 --> 00:45:15,763 and the contraceptive laws           and all that sort of thing 345 00:45:21,163 --> 00:45:39,083 [Margo]   In the 80s and 90s                   and obviously                    the decades before that, 346 00:45:39,123 --> 00:45:43,723 It was appalling. 347 00:45:46,163 --> 00:45:53,883 [Roísín]   There was                  a sense of being in this 348 00:45:53,923 --> 00:46:01,163 you couldn't get condoms,              so this was a big issue. 349 00:46:04,283 --> 00:46:10,643 [man] It's quite a similar story         to your own, isn't it? 350 00:46:10,683 --> 00:46:14,883 Last time you told me that          there were certain attitudes                  in Ireland. 351 00:46:14,923 --> 00:46:23,123 Yeah, except I had                  a baby when I was 20 352 00:46:23,163 --> 00:46:33,603 And I was in a society that        doesn't look down on pregnancy 353 00:46:33,643 --> 00:46:38,083 who has no money              and no boyfriend and no support 354 00:46:38,123 --> 00:46:44,043 I think I was in very...                nice circumstances 355 00:46:44,083 --> 00:46:47,283 [rock music playing] 356 00:46:53,323 --> 00:46:58,643 It seems years                Since you held the baby... 357 00:46:58,683 --> 00:47:11,363 you don't really expect                 anything to happen. 358 00:47:11,403 --> 00:47:14,643 And I remember I was quite      taken aback by the whole thing, 359 00:47:14,683 --> 00:47:17,603 amused at the idea of me                 sitting and doing                     press conferences 360 00:47:17,643 --> 00:47:23,723 and things like that                  because it was just 361 00:47:23,763 --> 00:47:28,163 and put my album out I was 20, 362 00:47:28,203 --> 00:47:31,643 And now I'm 23 which                is still extremely young 363 00:47:31,683 --> 00:47:36,243 and I'm still developing                 my "personality",                   in inverted commas. 364 00:47:36,283 --> 00:47:46,163 And I'm still discovering                things about myself 365 00:47:48,883 --> 00:47:56,323 [John]   When the album   "I Do Not        Want What I Haven't Got", 366 00:47:56,363 --> 00:47:59,323 and he said, "This is like           reading somebody's diaries. 367 00:47:59,363 --> 00:48:07,683 I'm not putting it out." 368 00:48:09,843 --> 00:48:20,563 Well, I am far more                  proud of this album 369 00:48:22,203 --> 00:48:26,843 [Maybury]   The way she grew                   in confidence 370 00:48:28,763 --> 00:48:32,123 She's a powerful, sexual being. 371 00:48:32,163 --> 00:48:38,923 I think she was enjoying           playing with the gender roles, 372 00:48:38,963 --> 00:48:46,323 and the toughness of denim             or the Dr. Martin boots 373 00:48:46,363 --> 00:48:53,523 There's always                 still this beautiful woman, 374 00:48:57,843 --> 00:49:15,163 She came to understand                  the nature of what                      we were doing 375 00:49:30,283 --> 00:49:32,283 [John] "The Nothing                Compares To You"   video, 376 00:49:32,323 --> 00:49:35,883 she came back with all                 the rushes on a VHS 377 00:49:35,923 --> 00:49:42,723 and we've stuck it into                  the video machine,                    I was watching it. 378 00:49:46,483 --> 00:49:56,963 [Jerry]   The video was shot           both in studio and it was shot 379 00:50:02,883 --> 00:50:17,723 The extraordinary close-up                work that John did 380 00:50:19,243 --> 00:50:24,243 [gentle music] 381 00:50:24,283 --> 00:50:30,043 [Maybury]                         In between takes, 382 00:50:30,083 --> 00:50:32,763 and light up a spliff,                    and be bopping                      around the studio. 383 00:50:36,083 --> 00:50:38,763 We weren't in a kind of              particularly sombre mood. 384 00:50:40,723 --> 00:50:48,403 Looking into my monitor,              looking down that lens, 385 00:50:49,603 --> 00:50:59,163 It was like, "Oh, okay, 386 00:51:02,363 --> 00:51:04,323 [Sinéad]   If you don't 387 00:51:04,363 --> 00:51:06,723 identify emotionally         with a song, you can't sing it. 388 00:51:27,443 --> 00:51:29,363 I didn't know I was                  gonna cry singing it. 389 00:51:29,403 --> 00:51:31,003 I didn't cry in the studio, 390 00:51:31,043 --> 00:51:32,603 it was just because                   of the big eye on me 391 00:51:32,643 --> 00:51:34,283 in the form of a camera. 392 00:51:39,003 --> 00:51:41,643 Every time I sing the song,              I think of my mother. 393 00:51:44,723 --> 00:51:57,763 I never stopped crying              for my mother for, Jesus, 394 00:51:57,803 --> 00:52:03,763 So yeah, I was thinking of her        and I suppose my subconscious 395 00:52:08,923 --> 00:52:13,803 I think it's funny that            the world fell in love with me 396 00:52:13,843 --> 00:52:20,683 I went and did a lot of crying 397 00:52:26,123 --> 00:52:41,763 [audience clapping] 398 00:52:41,803 --> 00:52:43,443 Good to see you. Will you            be number one on Monday? 399 00:52:43,483 --> 00:52:48,843 I don't know, you know. 400 00:52:48,883 --> 00:52:54,683 I don't want to                    count my chickens. 401 00:52:54,723 --> 00:53:01,523 it doesn't really                   make a difference, 402 00:53:01,563 --> 00:53:02,963 We shouldn't even be                 thinking about this. 403 00:53:03,003 --> 00:53:07,843 Shouldn't even be                thinking about it, okay. 404 00:53:07,883 --> 00:53:13,323 [audience laughing] 405 00:53:13,363 --> 00:53:15,043 [John]                       The song went number one, 406 00:53:15,083 --> 00:53:20,083 everywhere in the world                     pretty much. 407 00:53:20,123 --> 00:53:23,923 And the winner is...                   Sinéad O'Connor. 408 00:53:23,963 --> 00:53:31,803 -Sinéad O'Connor.                    -Sinéad O'Connor. 409 00:53:32,763 --> 00:53:34,723 You know, peace. 410 00:53:34,763 --> 00:53:37,323 [upbeat music] 411 00:53:38,803 --> 00:53:41,323 [man]   It's Sinéad O'Connor. 412 00:53:43,043 --> 00:53:45,163 Sinéad,                      "Nothing Compares To You." 413 00:53:47,443 --> 00:53:49,683 [Claire]   The level of when            "Nothing Compares To You" 414 00:53:49,723 --> 00:53:51,443 became a hit was extraordinary. 415 00:53:51,483 --> 00:53:53,043 It really was off the scale. 416 00:53:54,283 --> 00:53:57,643 She was the biggest thing. 417 00:53:57,683 --> 00:54:10,723 or Amy Winehouse, 418 00:54:15,603 --> 00:54:18,523 I didn't realize how huge         the single and the album were. 419 00:54:18,563 --> 00:54:21,603 I really didn't. 420 00:54:21,643 --> 00:54:24,043 and it said that                    the record had been 421 00:54:24,083 --> 00:54:27,323 something like the fourth             biggest record in America, 422 00:54:27,363 --> 00:54:32,883 I nearly dropped dead. 423 00:54:32,923 --> 00:54:40,883 She was suddenly a major act. 424 00:54:43,763 --> 00:54:44,803 Hello! 425 00:54:47,603 --> 00:54:55,443 The tour got bigger and bigger            instead of theatres, 426 00:54:55,483 --> 00:55:01,843 It seems like years               Since you held the baby 427 00:55:01,883 --> 00:55:21,803 You said it was                  Dangerous after Sunday 428 00:55:21,843 --> 00:55:26,003 but this is going                     to be really good. 429 00:55:34,283 --> 00:55:54,323 I am stretched                      On your grave 430 00:55:57,243 --> 00:56:09,043 My apple tree                       My brightness 431 00:56:12,483 --> 00:56:25,683 For I smell of the earth 432 00:56:25,723 --> 00:56:33,803 we did a place in New Jersey. 433 00:56:33,843 --> 00:56:48,283 Sinéad got to hear                    about it, and said 434 00:56:48,323 --> 00:56:50,723 we won't play it." 435 00:56:50,763 --> 00:56:55,843 And I thought,                   "Oh, this is going to be               everywhere tomorrow." 436 00:56:55,883 --> 00:57:16,843 "Oh, God, have you                    seen the papers?" 437 00:57:16,883 --> 00:57:20,563 With American soldiers                   on foreign soil 438 00:57:20,603 --> 00:57:25,123 patriotism is running                    at fever pitch. 439 00:57:25,163 --> 00:57:26,923 the National Anthem                    on our station 440 00:57:26,963 --> 00:57:32,123 to support the troops              over in the Middle East, 441 00:57:32,163 --> 00:57:36,843 The wrong time, the wrong place 442 00:57:36,883 --> 00:57:38,083 within her own management, 443 00:57:38,123 --> 00:57:40,243 "Sinéad, shut up." 444 00:57:40,283 --> 00:57:56,683 [caller 1]                      You don't like America,                then get the hell out. 445 00:57:56,723 --> 00:58:01,883 She wants the money,            the fame and the glorification. 446 00:58:01,923 --> 00:58:04,363 [Irish newsreader]   One extreme           patriot is Frank Sinatra, 447 00:58:04,403 --> 00:58:09,163 who said he would                   like to kick her ass. 448 00:58:09,203 --> 00:58:11,483 to kick her ass",                   says Sinéad 's father,                    John O'Connor. 449 00:58:15,043 --> 00:58:16,683 [Claire]   As soon                    as someone highlighted 450 00:58:16,723 --> 00:58:20,043 that it had to be played,                   she would say, 451 00:58:20,083 --> 00:58:36,043 and why are you                   telling me what to do?" 452 00:58:36,083 --> 00:58:46,603 I'm looking at you. I'm thinking         14 in the side pocket. 453 00:58:46,643 --> 00:58:51,403 and the suffering in                 the world right now. 454 00:58:51,443 --> 00:58:55,683 Come on, swing baby,                   you're platinum.                     Forget the head. 455 00:58:55,723 --> 00:59:03,923 Put a bag over it                  and do your business. 456 00:59:03,963 --> 00:59:06,123 You're supposed to have            long hair wear push-up bras 457 00:59:06,163 --> 00:59:09,243 and lip gloss, you know,               and shut up and sing. 458 00:59:09,283 --> 00:59:13,563 Maybe if I was a man,                  there wouldn't be                  such a fuss about it 459 00:59:13,603 --> 00:59:15,283 It's just not expected               of women, I don't know. 460 00:59:15,323 --> 00:59:23,883 But then nothing about me,       particularly, in people's minds, 461 00:59:23,923 --> 00:59:36,323 that they have                    because I'm a woman. 462 00:59:36,363 --> 00:59:40,603 I don't think it was a situation          being wrong or right. 463 00:59:40,643 --> 00:59:44,443 in the way that I felt            would be most true to myself. 464 00:59:44,483 --> 00:59:58,803 I didn't mean to offend anybody. 465 00:59:58,843 --> 01:00:02,043 and people like that 466 01:00:02,083 --> 01:00:16,923 and what they may                 or may not write about. 467 01:00:16,963 --> 01:00:20,163 who are very offensive as well, 468 01:00:20,203 --> 01:00:25,043 So it leaves me                    thinking that it's 469 01:00:25,083 --> 01:00:27,043 So, you know,                     if it happened now, 470 01:00:27,083 --> 01:00:35,883 I might've reacted                   in a different way, 471 01:00:35,923 --> 01:00:47,123 well, you didn't                    not take the money. 472 01:00:47,163 --> 01:00:48,723 I don't perform or make              records or do anything 473 01:00:48,763 --> 01:00:50,163 in order to make money. 474 01:00:50,203 --> 01:01:01,003 It's not the thing that I hold 475 01:01:01,043 --> 01:01:13,723 So we're going to wave it at her         and see what she does. 476 01:01:15,923 --> 01:01:17,683 [Sinéad]                    It's a very patriotic country. 477 01:01:17,723 --> 01:01:23,043 And a lot of people                      have been told 478 01:01:23,083 --> 01:01:25,443 which is very irresponsible            on behalf of the media, 479 01:01:25,483 --> 01:01:29,283 because that does               put a person in a situation 480 01:01:29,323 --> 01:01:32,523 where literally               their life could be at risk. 481 01:01:32,563 --> 01:01:35,123 [atmospheric music] 482 01:01:35,163 --> 01:01:52,763 [John]   When the press                  started to attack her 483 01:01:56,523 --> 01:01:57,883 [singing] 484 01:01:57,923 --> 01:02:08,483 Margaret Thatcher on TV 485 01:02:08,523 --> 01:02:15,763 [John]                              She's always                      championed justice. 486 01:02:16,883 --> 01:02:48,923 [singing] 487 01:02:48,963 --> 01:03:00,523 And that's why I'm leaving 488 01:03:03,203 --> 01:03:08,283 Young mother                     Down at Smithfield 489 01:03:08,323 --> 01:03:14,683 5:00 a.m., looking for food               For her kids... 490 01:03:14,723 --> 01:03:17,523 when she wrote that song,            you know, it was around us, 491 01:03:17,563 --> 01:03:26,883 you know, that kind of police          versus the Black community. 492 01:03:26,923 --> 01:03:28,323 [Sinéad]                      I write songs about things 493 01:03:28,363 --> 01:03:30,283 that I feel strongly about. 494 01:03:30,323 --> 01:03:33,683 It's not consciously               to write a political song 495 01:03:33,723 --> 01:03:39,723 And I think that that's             what every person's duty 496 01:03:39,763 --> 01:03:46,083 when they think                    something's wrong. 497 01:03:46,123 --> 01:03:49,843 I imagine so. 498 01:03:52,523 --> 01:03:54,323 I'm an Irish artist, 499 01:03:54,363 --> 01:03:57,843 and there's a tradition                 among Irish artists 500 01:03:57,883 --> 01:03:59,883 You know, whether               they're playwrights or poets. 501 01:04:02,083 --> 01:04:04,883 An artists job                    is sometimes to create 502 01:04:04,923 --> 01:04:09,443 the difficult conversations               that need to be had. 503 01:04:09,483 --> 01:04:11,563 what anyone thinks of me                  when I do that. 504 01:04:12,403 --> 01:04:14,323 [chanting] 505 01:04:16,323 --> 01:04:28,043 [newsreader]   The right                 to choose an abortion, 506 01:04:28,083 --> 01:04:31,283 Abortion will be legalized           in this country very soon. 507 01:04:31,323 --> 01:04:33,083 Let's have another referendum 508 01:04:33,123 --> 01:04:47,963 when only women                 of childbearing age vote 509 01:04:48,003 --> 01:04:50,603 The church deliberately              distract us from that, 510 01:04:50,643 --> 01:05:03,443 by making it into                 an either anti or for, 511 01:05:06,323 --> 01:05:08,563 [Elaine]   I never felt                  that Sinéad would cave 512 01:05:08,603 --> 01:05:30,323 to any pressure. Ever. 513 01:05:30,363 --> 01:05:32,883 It is the creative community           that are driven by greed. 514 01:05:32,923 --> 01:05:37,643 That's why none of them                are saying anything 515 01:05:37,683 --> 01:05:40,403 It's why nobody has said              anything about the war. 516 01:05:40,443 --> 01:05:45,003 [Elaine]   When Sinéad refused            to perform at the Grammys, 517 01:05:45,043 --> 01:05:50,403 As if that were even possible. 518 01:05:50,443 --> 01:05:54,723 but I felt that my career       could certainly be in jeopardy, 519 01:05:54,763 --> 01:05:56,323 and Sinéad's as well. 520 01:05:56,363 --> 01:05:58,203 These were powerful people                 in the industry. 521 01:06:01,523 --> 01:06:04,443 [Chuck D]   I didn't think               that the powers that be                 were ready for her. 522 01:06:06,003 --> 01:06:12,603 Where she's from, 523 01:06:12,643 --> 01:06:15,363 but maybe in different genres, 524 01:06:15,403 --> 01:06:21,963 and not so much                     as a pop superstar. 525 01:06:28,043 --> 01:06:32,843 Okay, so this is                    my favourite place                    in the universe, 526 01:06:32,883 --> 01:06:41,483 All the Rastas live there, 527 01:06:44,723 --> 01:06:57,243 The object of my game                    coming into the                      music business was 528 01:06:57,283 --> 01:06:59,363 And also, I suppose,              spiritually true to myself, 529 01:06:59,403 --> 01:07:01,363 do you know what I mean? 530 01:07:01,403 --> 01:07:08,243 The music business can be             a bit of a vampiric arena. 531 01:07:08,283 --> 01:07:09,763 [Sinéad] Gary. 532 01:07:09,803 --> 01:07:11,043 -Yes?                         -Say hello to Jake. 533 01:07:11,083 --> 01:07:12,363 -Him Jake.                     -[Sinéad] That's Gary. 534 01:07:12,403 --> 01:07:13,403 Maybe we'll get                     to see you, Jake. 535 01:07:13,443 --> 01:07:22,683 [Sinéad] He's really mad. 536 01:07:22,723 --> 01:07:30,803 as if you're in                    a popularity contest, 537 01:07:30,843 --> 01:07:33,923 [instrumental music] 538 01:07:38,043 --> 01:07:43,283 That was the last one,                     wasn't it? 539 01:07:43,323 --> 01:07:46,043 -[man] Yes.                    -[Sinéad]   I didn't want             to fall into that trap then 540 01:07:46,083 --> 01:07:53,923 of you know,                      the follow up album                to the number one, single. 541 01:07:53,963 --> 01:07:58,283 all of a sudden                    you could go in there 542 01:07:58,323 --> 01:07:59,923 [trumpets blasting] 543 01:08:03,523 --> 01:08:15,283 Let's listen back and make         sure we love this arrangement. 544 01:08:15,323 --> 01:08:18,843 this was a great antidote,             really to what happened. 545 01:08:18,883 --> 01:08:29,923 And it had the most amazing          team of arrangers, musicians, 546 01:08:44,843 --> 01:08:55,443 We used to go out walking 547 01:08:55,483 --> 01:09:00,123 You had planned... 548 01:09:00,163 --> 01:09:09,323 It was just astonishing                   being in a room 549 01:09:09,363 --> 01:09:16,163 and I couldn't see myself               as being anyway good. 550 01:09:16,203 --> 01:09:24,843 Am I not your girl? 551 01:09:30,683 --> 01:09:47,963 [Sinéad]   There were things              going on in my own life. 552 01:09:50,523 --> 01:09:57,483 Basically fucking everything          I had been raised to believe                   was a lie. 553 01:09:59,323 --> 01:10:04,683 Ave, ave, ave Maria 554 01:10:04,723 --> 01:10:10,403 [Announcer]   At the end                of the line of bishops,                   walked the Pope. 555 01:10:11,563 --> 01:10:18,083 [crowd cheers] 556 01:10:18,123 --> 01:10:20,163 and the next was                   a picture of the Pope, 557 01:10:20,203 --> 01:10:22,803 which had been                     on her bedroom wall. 558 01:10:22,843 --> 01:10:25,123 [Pope John Paul II]                 Young people of Ireland, 559 01:10:26,403 --> 01:10:27,723 I love you. 560 01:10:29,563 --> 01:10:31,963 [crowd cheers] 561 01:10:32,003 --> 01:10:36,683 [Sinéad]   He didn't                      fucking love me. 562 01:10:37,963 --> 01:10:46,763 You know, it was such a lie. 563 01:10:46,803 --> 01:10:48,843 And I had a right                     to fight that evil 564 01:10:48,883 --> 01:10:52,723 because I loved the church. 565 01:10:52,763 --> 01:10:55,843 and I've got fuck all to lose 566 01:10:55,883 --> 01:10:57,443 that hasn't been done already. 567 01:11:10,323 --> 01:11:14,123 [Elaine]   I had booked her              on   Saturday Night Live. 568 01:11:14,163 --> 01:11:20,923 which was,                     "Am I Not Your Girl." 569 01:11:20,963 --> 01:11:25,923 and this would really help it. 570 01:11:25,963 --> 01:11:28,603 [crowd applauds] 571 01:11:35,403 --> 01:12:01,043 Until the philosophy 572 01:12:04,043 --> 01:12:06,003 It's a speech that                the Emperor Haile Selassie 573 01:12:06,043 --> 01:12:08,723 had made at the United Nations,              and then Bob Marley 574 01:12:08,763 --> 01:12:20,843 turned it into a song. 575 01:12:20,883 --> 01:12:22,803 Than the colour of his eyes 576 01:12:22,843 --> 01:12:42,123 I've got to say war... 577 01:12:42,163 --> 01:12:53,963 And rumours of war 578 01:12:54,003 --> 01:13:01,483 Children, children 579 01:13:01,523 --> 01:13:08,163 We find it necessary 580 01:13:08,203 --> 01:13:21,843 We have confidence 581 01:13:25,123 --> 01:13:26,723 Fight the real enemy. 582 01:13:33,723 --> 01:13:39,963 [Elaine]                       Nobody knows what to do. 583 01:13:40,003 --> 01:13:47,243 She blows a candle out,                 she goes off stage, 584 01:13:47,283 --> 01:13:50,323 And I had gone into               the dressing room after her, 585 01:13:50,363 --> 01:13:53,323 and I said, "You know,            I can't get you out of this." 586 01:13:53,363 --> 01:13:55,763 And she said, "You know what?             I don't want you to." 587 01:13:58,563 --> 01:14:01,723 [host]   What effect do you think 588 01:14:02,923 --> 01:14:13,243 I don't know. 589 01:14:13,283 --> 01:14:25,723 Do you think what you have done 590 01:14:27,163 --> 01:14:32,923 Well, I can't really say.                  I don't know. 591 01:14:32,963 --> 01:14:41,723 which you said don't seem             to be negative, right? 592 01:14:41,763 --> 01:15:05,483 [narrator]   Sinéad O'Connor           is no stranger to controversy. 593 01:15:05,523 --> 01:15:07,483 [reporter 2]   The network says               O'Connor's tirade                   caught them off guard. 594 01:15:07,523 --> 01:15:12,643 NBC logged a thousand                   complaint calls... 595 01:15:12,683 --> 01:15:15,003 certainly unauthorized by NBC, 596 01:15:15,043 --> 01:15:17,923 and NBC was offended                    by what she did. 597 01:15:17,963 --> 01:15:26,243 [reporter]   The Catholic league         for religious and civil rights 598 01:15:26,283 --> 01:15:40,843 During the lunch hour,              they passed out leaflets, 599 01:15:40,883 --> 01:15:42,923 Actually, we were just              going to send them to her. 600 01:15:42,963 --> 01:15:45,243 Someone said,                  don't send the tapes new. 601 01:15:45,283 --> 01:15:54,203 Break them up,               'cause she'll sell them again. 602 01:15:56,243 --> 01:16:01,763 [audience applauds] 603 01:16:01,803 --> 01:16:04,283 Sinéad O'Connor... [gags],               you know and so on. 604 01:16:04,323 --> 01:16:13,403 Or you just don't like that she     tore up a picture of the Pope. 605 01:16:13,443 --> 01:16:15,003 But I'll tell you one thing,              she was very lucky 606 01:16:15,043 --> 01:16:24,683 it wasn't my show. 607 01:16:24,723 --> 01:16:26,483 Sinéad O'Conner, who's big theme            is child abuse... 608 01:16:26,523 --> 01:16:30,323 -All right?                -It all comes from child abuse. 609 01:16:35,043 --> 01:16:40,643 [John]                      I got a little bit worried, 610 01:16:40,683 --> 01:16:48,083 It was a terrible time for us. 611 01:16:48,123 --> 01:16:51,443 [Claire]   I had fan letters           with death threats to myself, 612 01:16:51,483 --> 01:16:57,803 death threats to Sinéad, 613 01:16:57,843 --> 01:17:04,003 or to me, or any of our team. 614 01:17:04,043 --> 01:17:15,843 And we were all applauding           and cheering and were like, 615 01:17:15,883 --> 01:17:20,083 "Oh, no, Sinéad O'Connor                    is an icon.                    She's ahead of her time." 616 01:17:20,123 --> 01:17:25,083 I think I probably                was joining in, "Oh, God,               what's she doing now?" 617 01:17:26,403 --> 01:17:38,523 Fight the real enemy. 618 01:17:38,563 --> 01:17:42,843 and tear up a photo                   of Uncle Fester. 619 01:17:50,243 --> 01:18:04,683 [reporter]   Do you enjoy                   shocking people? 620 01:18:04,723 --> 01:18:06,363 Some other time,                I'll talk to you about it. 621 01:18:06,403 --> 01:18:09,323 [reporter] But obviously            you don't have any regrets. 622 01:18:11,403 --> 01:18:21,083 [Kris Kristofferson]                    I'm real proud... 623 01:18:21,123 --> 01:18:26,083 and integrity. 624 01:18:26,123 --> 01:18:28,683 [crowd cheers] 625 01:18:47,123 --> 01:18:48,203 Thank you. 626 01:18:52,563 --> 01:18:56,683 [Sinéad]   I'm on stage                    and the audience                     start making this 627 01:18:56,723 --> 01:18:58,243 and half of them are cheering. 628 01:18:58,283 --> 01:19:00,323 And it's the fucking                     weirdest noise 629 01:19:00,363 --> 01:19:04,683 I've ever heard in my life.          And it makes me want to puke. 630 01:19:06,803 --> 01:19:09,403 [crowd cheering] 631 01:19:18,083 --> 01:19:31,363 [Sinéad]   My song that I was                 supposed to sing 632 01:19:33,803 --> 01:19:43,443 "Are you going to stand by me" 633 01:19:43,483 --> 01:19:46,163 [crowd cheering] 634 01:19:49,003 --> 01:19:51,603 Okay, turn this up. 635 01:19:51,643 --> 01:19:57,403 Until the philosophy 636 01:19:57,443 --> 01:20:01,643 And another inferior 637 01:20:01,683 --> 01:20:10,203 Is finally 638 01:20:10,243 --> 01:20:29,723 Everywhere is war 639 01:20:29,763 --> 01:20:34,243 Than the colour of his eyes 640 01:20:34,283 --> 01:20:38,043 Until, the basic                      Human rights 641 01:20:38,083 --> 01:20:40,883 Are equally                      Guaranteed to all 642 01:20:40,923 --> 01:20:43,323 Without regard to race 643 01:20:43,363 --> 01:20:45,563 I say war 644 01:20:45,603 --> 01:20:52,843 And until 645 01:20:52,883 --> 01:21:03,803 Child abuse, yeah 646 01:21:03,843 --> 01:21:09,723 Utterly destroyed 647 01:21:17,883 --> 01:21:20,803 [Kathleen]   Everything kind of          coalesced into that moment. 648 01:21:20,843 --> 01:21:22,443 Someone who grew up                      in a household 649 01:21:22,483 --> 01:21:26,643 of abuse and rejection, 650 01:21:26,683 --> 01:21:36,563 by what probably felt like             the whole entire world, 651 01:21:38,203 --> 01:21:39,883 [John]   People that would boo                 Sinéad O'Connor, 652 01:21:39,923 --> 01:21:53,963 what were they doing                at a Bob Dylan concert? 653 01:21:59,163 --> 01:22:02,123 [Sinéad]   "My name                    is Sinéad O'Connor, 654 01:22:03,363 --> 01:22:04,843 I am deserving, 655 01:22:04,883 --> 01:22:15,443 I deserve to be                    treated with respect, 656 01:22:15,483 --> 01:22:17,123 I am and have always been              carrying a lot of grief, 657 01:22:17,163 --> 01:22:25,123 from my lost childhood, 658 01:22:25,163 --> 01:22:34,683 To get to the joy, 659 01:22:34,723 --> 01:22:44,723 but I know that if you                 could really listen, 660 01:22:44,763 --> 01:22:47,003 there's a mirror into               which we are not looking. 661 01:22:51,123 --> 01:23:00,403 There's no way                 I'm going to shut my mouth, 662 01:23:00,443 --> 01:23:02,483 just because they don't              want to hear about it. 663 01:23:05,483 --> 01:23:10,083 [Peaches]   We all have,                 mental health issues, 664 01:23:10,123 --> 01:23:15,963 and it's very important              for us to recognize that, 665 01:23:17,843 --> 01:23:20,083 [Sinéad]   I was always being              crazied by the media, 666 01:23:20,123 --> 01:23:34,523 made out to be crazy. 667 01:23:36,563 --> 01:23:39,043 [Skin]                     Sinéad was put into isolation. 668 01:23:39,083 --> 01:23:41,003 She, was still                     making great music, 669 01:23:41,043 --> 01:23:45,443 still making great records, 670 01:23:45,483 --> 01:23:48,243 In those days, if the press            weren't talking about you, 671 01:23:48,283 --> 01:23:53,043 if you weren't on the radio,         if you weren't on TV screens, 672 01:23:53,083 --> 01:23:56,083 Which is what                     happened with Sinéad, 673 01:23:59,003 --> 01:24:03,163 [Sinéad]   I have about                   a ten-year period 674 01:24:03,203 --> 01:24:04,163 because it suddenly                  became a free for all 675 01:24:04,203 --> 01:24:09,723 for everybody around me, 676 01:24:12,483 --> 01:24:15,923 They didn't like what                they saw on the mirror, 677 01:24:15,963 --> 01:24:17,723 but when I was younger,                   I was just hurt. 678 01:24:25,523 --> 01:24:31,323 [Dr. Sinéad Kennedy]   The            willingness to tell her story, 679 01:24:31,363 --> 01:24:38,003 to share them, with Ireland               and with the world, 680 01:24:42,563 --> 01:24:47,603 [Enda Kenny]   On behalf                     of this state, 681 01:24:47,643 --> 01:25:01,243 deeply regret,                 and apologize unreservedly, 682 01:25:03,283 --> 01:25:06,283 Today, we live in                 a very different country, 683 01:25:06,323 --> 01:25:08,283 with a very different                     consciousness, 684 01:25:08,323 --> 01:25:12,083 and a very different awareness. 685 01:25:14,163 --> 01:25:29,723 An Ireland where we have                  more compassion, 686 01:25:34,763 --> 01:25:41,243 In Ireland, it's being             called a quiet revolution, 687 01:25:41,283 --> 01:25:46,403 to repeal a constitutional                ban on abortion. 688 01:25:46,443 --> 01:25:50,123 [women chanting] 689 01:25:52,443 --> 01:26:01,043 [woman]   Yeah,                  I'm proud to be Irish today 690 01:26:04,203 --> 01:26:06,003 [Roisin]   Wherever there's                that righteous anger 691 01:26:06,043 --> 01:26:08,163 of a woman now,                 who is making a difference, 692 01:26:08,203 --> 01:26:10,203 who's changing things, 693 01:26:10,243 --> 01:26:18,083 who's standing up                   and being courageous. 694 01:26:22,323 --> 01:26:25,483 We are seeing the rights                 that people fought                  for being pulled back, 695 01:26:25,523 --> 01:26:32,963 being diminished, 696 01:26:35,043 --> 01:26:39,443 We need to keep showing                 how effective it is, 697 01:26:39,483 --> 01:26:42,683 [crowd chanting] 698 01:26:46,283 --> 01:26:50,203 Women's bodies are under attack! 699 01:26:58,603 --> 01:27:04,523 [Chuck D]   There's a lot        of artists that came afterward, 700 01:27:06,603 --> 01:27:09,603 She broke the ice                     for a whole decade 701 01:27:09,643 --> 01:27:11,443 or two decades                    of artists after her. 702 01:27:12,483 --> 01:27:15,643 [upbeat music] 703 01:27:29,723 --> 01:27:32,803 [reporter]   A government                  inquiry last year 704 01:27:32,843 --> 01:27:34,643 put their church's reputation 705 01:27:34,683 --> 01:27:40,523 before the interests                    of their flock, 706 01:27:40,563 --> 01:27:42,803 But the scandals                   go far beyond Ireland, 707 01:27:42,843 --> 01:27:44,843 and touch the Vatican directly. 708 01:27:44,883 --> 01:27:47,483 Last week, it was alleged                that Pope Benedict, 709 01:27:47,523 --> 01:27:49,323 then known as                      Cardinal Ratzinger, 710 01:27:49,363 --> 01:27:54,683 had prevented the church trial, 711 01:27:54,723 --> 01:27:58,123 The church in Ireland,         must acknowledge before the Lord 712 01:27:58,163 --> 01:28:01,603 and others,                  the serious sins committed 713 01:28:01,643 --> 01:28:03,883 against defenceless children. 714 01:28:09,803 --> 01:28:13,243 [Kathleen]                   Sinéad O'Connor as an artist,              forged her own path 715 01:28:13,283 --> 01:28:20,563 in a world that just                 was not ready for her. 716 01:28:20,603 --> 01:28:26,363 showed up, and just rocked      the shit out of the horse cart. 717 01:28:26,403 --> 01:28:28,363 I don't want to see                     her as a martyr, 718 01:28:28,403 --> 01:28:37,363 because she's                      a three-dimensional                       human being. 719 01:28:39,243 --> 01:28:50,403 [calm music] 720 01:28:50,443 --> 01:28:54,123 that that really,               really killed me and hurt me. 721 01:28:54,163 --> 01:29:02,763 You know? 722 01:29:02,803 --> 01:29:13,003 it didn't suit me                     being a pop star. 723 01:29:13,043 --> 01:29:16,763 it was the proudest thing            I've ever done as an artist. 724 01:29:16,803 --> 01:29:20,523 They broke my heart                   and they killed me,                    but I didn't die. 725 01:29:22,603 --> 01:29:25,723 They tried to bury me, 726 01:29:28,883 --> 01:29:33,723 Thank you for hearing me 727 01:29:35,723 --> 01:29:40,643 Thank you for hearing me 728 01:29:42,683 --> 01:29:47,563 Thank you for hearing me 729 01:29:49,523 --> 01:29:54,883 Thank you for hearing me 730 01:30:00,643 --> 01:30:06,643 Thank you for loving me 731 01:30:06,683 --> 01:30:11,563 Thank you for loving me 732 01:30:12,923 --> 01:30:18,523 Thank you for loving me 733 01:30:18,563 --> 01:30:23,763 Thank you for loving me 734 01:30:28,123 --> 01:30:39,723 Which means forsaking me 735 01:30:39,763 --> 01:30:51,363 Thank you for seeing me 736 01:30:55,723 --> 01:31:01,443 And for not leaving me 737 01:31:01,483 --> 01:31:06,563 And for not leaving me 738 01:31:07,963 --> 01:31:19,163 And for not leaving me 739 01:31:23,283 --> 01:31:29,123 Thank you                      For staying with me 740 01:31:29,163 --> 01:31:35,563 Thank you                      For staying with me 741 01:31:35,603 --> 01:31:40,923 Thank you                      For staying with me 742 01:31:40,963 --> 01:31:46,683 Thank you                      For staying with me 743 01:31:50,723 --> 01:32:13,723 Thanks for not hurting me 744 01:32:18,283 --> 01:32:24,203 You are gentle with me 745 01:32:24,243 --> 01:32:29,083 You are gentle with me 746 01:32:30,563 --> 01:32:42,083 You are gentle with me 747 01:32:45,803 --> 01:32:56,763 Thanks for silence with me 748 01:32:58,163 --> 01:33:09,363 Thanks for silence with me 749 01:33:13,923 --> 01:33:32,283 Thank you for holding me 750 01:33:32,323 --> 01:33:37,163 Thank you for holding me 751 01:33:41,683 --> 01:33:53,123 Thank you for helping me 752 01:33:53,163 --> 01:33:58,923 Thank you for helping me 753 01:33:58,963 --> 01:34:06,323 Thank you 754 01:34:09,123 --> 01:34:21,003 Thank you                     For breaking my heart 755 01:34:21,043 --> 01:34:24,403 Now I've a strong 756 01:34:24,443 --> 01:34:27,443 Strong heart 757 01:34:27,483 --> 01:34:30,603 Thank you 758 01:34:30,643 --> 01:34:36,483 For breaking my heart 759 01:34:44,363 --> 01:34:47,323 [vocalizing]