1 00:00:02,465 --> 00:00:04,008 [music] 2 00:00:04,049 --> 00:00:07,261 [Jennifer] February 19, 2013. 3 00:00:07,303 --> 00:00:09,638 An infamous building 4 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:11,807 is thrust back into 5 00:00:11,849 --> 00:00:14,769 when one of its guests 6 00:00:14,810 --> 00:00:17,354 inside the elevator 7 00:00:17,396 --> 00:00:20,441 [music] 8 00:00:20,483 --> 00:00:22,485 [Jennifer] A mystery made 9 00:00:22,526 --> 00:00:24,278 when the body of 10 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,281 missing guest 11 00:00:27,323 --> 00:00:31,035 Inside the hotel's rooftop 12 00:00:31,077 --> 00:00:33,788 The Cecil is one of the darkest 13 00:00:33,829 --> 00:00:36,373 [Jennifer] Tragic accident? 14 00:00:36,415 --> 00:00:39,126 Or is this death just 15 00:00:39,168 --> 00:00:41,504 in the Cecil Hotel's 16 00:00:41,545 --> 00:00:44,548 of bizarre and violent events? 17 00:00:44,590 --> 00:00:46,509 [Craig] The Cecil has 18 00:00:46,550 --> 00:00:48,385 for being a haunted hotel. 19 00:00:48,427 --> 00:00:51,347 [Jennifer] Is it possible that 20 00:00:51,388 --> 00:00:53,557 contributed to the death 21 00:00:53,599 --> 00:00:56,477 and so many other guests? 22 00:00:56,519 --> 00:01:00,940 I would be shocked if the Cecil 23 00:01:00,981 --> 00:01:04,234 that's sparking some kind 24 00:01:04,276 --> 00:01:06,946 [Edward] When we checked in, 25 00:01:06,987 --> 00:01:08,322 to get a little eerie. 26 00:01:08,364 --> 00:01:09,865 [music] 27 00:01:09,907 --> 00:01:13,244 [Patti] It is a hotbed. 28 00:01:13,285 --> 00:01:15,830 Or is its unnerving pattern 29 00:01:15,871 --> 00:01:19,291 just a case of 30 00:01:19,333 --> 00:01:20,709 My name's Jennifer Marshall. 31 00:01:20,751 --> 00:01:22,419 After serving in 32 00:01:22,460 --> 00:01:25,047 I began a career 33 00:01:25,089 --> 00:01:28,091 Now, I'm decoding the mysteries 34 00:01:28,134 --> 00:01:31,720 and allegedly evil past 35 00:01:31,762 --> 00:01:34,932 The city of angels' very own 36 00:01:34,974 --> 00:01:40,855 [music] 37 00:01:43,941 --> 00:01:45,692 [Jennifer] Even for 38 00:01:45,734 --> 00:01:47,319 for bizarre events, 39 00:01:47,361 --> 00:01:50,406 the first time many of us 40 00:01:50,447 --> 00:01:54,368 was in news reports on a young 41 00:01:54,410 --> 00:01:59,290 Whose mysterious death became 42 00:01:59,331 --> 00:02:01,458 This story is shocking, 43 00:02:01,500 --> 00:02:04,628 unbelievable circumstance 44 00:02:04,670 --> 00:02:06,714 All against the backdrop 45 00:02:06,755 --> 00:02:08,965 that has 46 00:02:09,007 --> 00:02:13,262 And according to many, 47 00:02:13,304 --> 00:02:16,223 Among those seeking answers 48 00:02:16,265 --> 00:02:18,601 is TV news journalist, 49 00:02:18,642 --> 00:02:20,561 a local news anchor in Texas. 50 00:02:20,603 --> 00:02:22,980 She's also pursued 51 00:02:23,022 --> 00:02:25,733 reporting stories with 52 00:02:25,774 --> 00:02:31,780 [music] 53 00:02:31,822 --> 00:02:33,574 [Jennifer] Okay, 54 00:02:33,616 --> 00:02:36,660 So, I really want you to have a 55 00:02:36,702 --> 00:02:39,330 It has so much 56 00:02:39,371 --> 00:02:41,165 And some people even claim 57 00:02:41,207 --> 00:02:43,292 some dark energy vortex. 58 00:02:43,334 --> 00:02:45,878 I'm a journalist 59 00:02:45,920 --> 00:02:49,381 I've had three paranormal 60 00:02:49,423 --> 00:02:51,175 I love to listen to people. 61 00:02:51,217 --> 00:02:55,262 I love to show them that there's 62 00:02:55,304 --> 00:02:57,848 This hotel was built 63 00:02:57,890 --> 00:03:00,267 it's super beautiful, 64 00:03:00,309 --> 00:03:03,437 And then... 65 00:03:03,479 --> 00:03:06,482 Things start happening there. 66 00:03:06,523 --> 00:03:09,235 A man was found 67 00:03:09,276 --> 00:03:11,237 and he had poisoned himself. 68 00:03:11,278 --> 00:03:13,447 [music] 69 00:03:13,489 --> 00:03:16,825 A lot of other tragedies 70 00:03:16,867 --> 00:03:19,536 People falling out 71 00:03:19,578 --> 00:03:21,121 throwing themselves out. 72 00:03:21,163 --> 00:03:23,582 Fast forward, 73 00:03:23,624 --> 00:03:25,584 was reportedly last seen there 74 00:03:25,625 --> 00:03:27,795 before she was 75 00:03:27,836 --> 00:03:30,381 Even serial killers, 76 00:03:30,422 --> 00:03:33,926 stayed at this hotel 77 00:03:33,968 --> 00:03:37,512 And then, one of the most famous 78 00:03:37,554 --> 00:03:39,098 Elisa Lam. 79 00:03:39,139 --> 00:03:41,850 A 21 year old Canadian student 80 00:03:41,892 --> 00:03:44,937 who traveled to the states 81 00:03:44,979 --> 00:03:48,315 to explore and have 82 00:03:48,357 --> 00:03:50,693 [Jennifer] It was her death 83 00:03:50,734 --> 00:03:53,445 that once again thrust the hotel 84 00:03:53,487 --> 00:03:56,115 for all the wrong reasons. 85 00:03:56,156 --> 00:03:59,159 [Ozzy] The last video of her 86 00:03:59,201 --> 00:04:02,371 in the Cecil Hotel. 87 00:04:02,413 --> 00:04:04,123 [Jennifer] Yeah. 88 00:04:04,164 --> 00:04:06,625 and there are hundreds 89 00:04:06,667 --> 00:04:09,420 out there about this. 90 00:04:09,461 --> 00:04:13,716 Elisa's death was ruled 91 00:04:13,757 --> 00:04:16,260 And this has been a closed case 92 00:04:16,301 --> 00:04:19,346 Official investigations 93 00:04:19,387 --> 00:04:22,933 paranormal forces played a part 94 00:04:22,975 --> 00:04:25,894 I think it's at least 95 00:04:25,936 --> 00:04:27,688 why all these things 96 00:04:27,730 --> 00:04:29,648 at this particular hotel. 97 00:04:29,690 --> 00:04:31,358 Maybe work our way backward, 98 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,861 and see if there's any 99 00:04:33,902 --> 00:04:37,156 as to why this place seems to 100 00:04:37,197 --> 00:04:39,533 [music] 101 00:04:39,575 --> 00:04:42,453 [Jennifer] The Cecil Hotel 102 00:04:42,494 --> 00:04:45,539 And its owners do not allow 103 00:04:45,580 --> 00:04:49,251 It was rebranded as a youth 104 00:04:49,293 --> 00:04:53,756 which comprised of floors four, 105 00:04:53,797 --> 00:04:55,632 It offered a younger, 106 00:04:55,674 --> 00:04:59,386 and budget-friendly alternative 107 00:04:59,428 --> 00:05:02,598 This is where Elisa Lam 108 00:05:02,639 --> 00:05:05,351 And in the aftermath 109 00:05:05,392 --> 00:05:09,146 the hotel was overrun 110 00:05:09,188 --> 00:05:11,857 eager to explore 111 00:05:11,899 --> 00:05:13,984 Their posts on social media 112 00:05:14,026 --> 00:05:16,904 make the Cecil 113 00:05:23,535 --> 00:05:25,537 So, what's your guys' 114 00:05:25,579 --> 00:05:27,122 [Man] It's creepy as hell. 115 00:05:29,500 --> 00:05:30,918 [Man] It's actually 116 00:05:30,959 --> 00:05:32,252 [Man] Smells like 117 00:05:32,294 --> 00:05:34,128 [music] 118 00:05:34,171 --> 00:05:35,672 [Man] People were screaming. 119 00:05:35,714 --> 00:05:37,174 The buildings actually 120 00:05:37,216 --> 00:05:39,051 [music] 121 00:05:39,093 --> 00:05:41,261 [Jennifer] The faded 122 00:05:41,303 --> 00:05:43,639 echoes another iconic dwelling. 123 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:47,101 The Stanley Hotel 124 00:05:47,142 --> 00:05:51,563 which served as the inspiration 125 00:05:51,604 --> 00:05:56,235 [music] 126 00:05:56,276 --> 00:05:58,654 [Jennifer] Back in 127 00:05:58,695 --> 00:06:01,031 America's first 128 00:06:01,073 --> 00:06:04,284 H.H. Holmes, 129 00:06:04,326 --> 00:06:07,371 inside his 130 00:06:07,413 --> 00:06:10,457 He fitted it with trapdoors, 131 00:06:10,499 --> 00:06:14,545 and even built a crematorium 132 00:06:14,586 --> 00:06:19,258 Can a place attract evil, 133 00:06:19,299 --> 00:06:22,594 Many believe that some 134 00:06:22,636 --> 00:06:24,805 attracts an evil clientele, 135 00:06:24,847 --> 00:06:27,891 and victimizes innocent guests. 136 00:06:27,933 --> 00:06:30,060 Though I'm a little 137 00:06:30,102 --> 00:06:32,312 there may be something 138 00:06:32,354 --> 00:06:34,064 But we need to find 139 00:06:34,106 --> 00:06:36,233 [music] 140 00:06:36,275 --> 00:06:38,235 [Jennifer] And ideally, 141 00:06:38,277 --> 00:06:39,862 [music] 142 00:06:39,903 --> 00:06:42,156 While Ozzy researches 143 00:06:42,197 --> 00:06:44,241 I'm meeting psychic 144 00:06:44,283 --> 00:06:46,326 who has spent her life 145 00:06:46,368 --> 00:06:49,538 this kind of phenomenon 146 00:06:49,580 --> 00:06:51,832 The second I walked through 147 00:06:51,874 --> 00:06:54,710 it was almost a heartbeat 148 00:06:54,751 --> 00:06:56,670 like the walls were 149 00:06:56,712 --> 00:06:58,881 And this desperation 150 00:06:58,922 --> 00:07:00,841 The emotion of it, 151 00:07:00,883 --> 00:07:02,801 everything got, like, 152 00:07:02,843 --> 00:07:04,428 Like you were underwater. 153 00:07:04,470 --> 00:07:07,389 And you start going into 154 00:07:07,431 --> 00:07:09,183 like when you're on 155 00:07:09,224 --> 00:07:11,143 It is so thick in there. 156 00:07:11,185 --> 00:07:13,812 Honestly, I think the Cecil 157 00:07:13,854 --> 00:07:15,814 I have ever been. 158 00:07:15,856 --> 00:07:19,193 It's like an oven that just 159 00:07:19,234 --> 00:07:21,904 it starts getting you 160 00:07:21,945 --> 00:07:24,156 Do you think the reason that 161 00:07:24,198 --> 00:07:27,034 both murderers and people who 162 00:07:27,075 --> 00:07:28,911 Jumping out of the window, 163 00:07:28,952 --> 00:07:32,705 Is it the same force that draws 164 00:07:32,748 --> 00:07:34,416 Yes, once you have 165 00:07:34,458 --> 00:07:36,460 it's like a beacon, 166 00:07:36,502 --> 00:07:38,212 There's a lot of energy there, 167 00:07:38,253 --> 00:07:40,047 I think it comes up 168 00:07:40,088 --> 00:07:43,592 whether it's a fault line, or an 169 00:07:43,634 --> 00:07:45,177 there's stuff from the land. 170 00:07:45,219 --> 00:07:47,137 Los Angeles is filled 171 00:07:47,179 --> 00:07:49,181 with vortexes going through 172 00:07:49,223 --> 00:07:51,433 and they probably start 173 00:07:51,475 --> 00:07:53,060 Each area has its own feel, 174 00:07:53,101 --> 00:07:55,521 and I think it's 175 00:07:55,562 --> 00:07:57,439 Which in itself, 176 00:07:57,481 --> 00:08:00,150 And energy could have created 177 00:08:00,192 --> 00:08:02,611 say, next door. 178 00:08:02,653 --> 00:08:05,155 How it got started, 179 00:08:05,197 --> 00:08:07,074 and so many people 180 00:08:07,115 --> 00:08:09,660 it created something 181 00:08:09,701 --> 00:08:12,079 Now talking about 182 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,206 when you visited, 183 00:08:14,248 --> 00:08:16,625 to any locations specifically? 184 00:08:16,667 --> 00:08:18,544 Yes, I was drawn to 185 00:08:18,585 --> 00:08:20,295 I got in the elevator, 186 00:08:20,337 --> 00:08:21,838 "Ooh yeah, 187 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,174 And the first room I went to, 188 00:08:24,216 --> 00:08:26,051 And I was like, 189 00:08:26,093 --> 00:08:27,678 I gotta get outta here." 190 00:08:27,719 --> 00:08:30,222 [Jennifer] Some people are 191 00:08:30,264 --> 00:08:33,767 is a vortex of evil. 192 00:08:33,809 --> 00:08:36,936 I a hundred percent believe 193 00:08:36,979 --> 00:08:39,480 Again, coming up from the 194 00:08:39,523 --> 00:08:41,066 Everything that happened in it, 195 00:08:41,108 --> 00:08:44,069 every person that's 196 00:08:44,111 --> 00:08:47,114 It is a hotbed. 197 00:08:47,155 --> 00:08:49,157 [music] 198 00:08:56,540 --> 00:08:59,418 [music] 199 00:08:59,459 --> 00:09:01,253 [Jennifer] In decoding 200 00:09:01,295 --> 00:09:03,005 of the Cecil Hotel, 201 00:09:03,046 --> 00:09:06,258 we're investigating how this 202 00:09:06,300 --> 00:09:08,635 morphed into a place 203 00:09:08,677 --> 00:09:10,137 Hell on Earth. 204 00:09:10,178 --> 00:09:13,432 [music] 205 00:09:13,473 --> 00:09:15,642 [Jennifer] I think given the 206 00:09:15,684 --> 00:09:17,185 next to Skid Row, 207 00:09:17,227 --> 00:09:19,730 it is a socioeconomically 208 00:09:19,771 --> 00:09:22,065 It's difficult. 209 00:09:22,107 --> 00:09:23,775 you know, 210 00:09:23,817 --> 00:09:25,986 but they might be struggling 211 00:09:26,028 --> 00:09:27,946 And it is easy 212 00:09:27,988 --> 00:09:30,699 when you're in that scenario. 213 00:09:30,741 --> 00:09:32,909 This was the scene 214 00:09:32,951 --> 00:09:34,661 when she checked into 215 00:09:34,703 --> 00:09:37,789 on January 28, 2013. 216 00:09:37,831 --> 00:09:40,792 Her own observations 217 00:09:40,834 --> 00:09:42,294 I wanted to show you something. 218 00:09:42,336 --> 00:09:44,588 So, Elisa kept a diary 219 00:09:44,630 --> 00:09:46,173 [Ozzy] I've actually 220 00:09:46,214 --> 00:09:48,133 and it says so much about her. 221 00:09:48,175 --> 00:09:50,260 What she was into, 222 00:09:50,302 --> 00:09:52,346 photography, 223 00:09:52,387 --> 00:09:55,140 [Jennifer] These entries tell us 224 00:09:55,182 --> 00:09:57,309 let me read to you one. 225 00:09:57,351 --> 00:09:58,685 "January 29th. 226 00:09:58,727 --> 00:10:00,395 Arrived in La La Land... 227 00:10:00,437 --> 00:10:02,522 And there is a monstrosity 228 00:10:02,564 --> 00:10:04,024 When I say monstrosity, 229 00:10:04,066 --> 00:10:07,027 I'm saying as in gaudy. 230 00:10:07,069 --> 00:10:09,363 But then again, 231 00:10:09,404 --> 00:10:10,947 hence the Art Deco theme. 232 00:10:10,989 --> 00:10:13,241 So, yes, it is classy, 233 00:10:13,283 --> 00:10:15,619 but then, since it's LA, 234 00:10:17,829 --> 00:10:19,956 It's been suggested that 235 00:10:19,998 --> 00:10:22,709 in a water tank 236 00:10:22,751 --> 00:10:26,046 was spurred by a demonic force 237 00:10:27,964 --> 00:10:29,800 The proponents of this theory 238 00:10:29,841 --> 00:10:32,552 say watch the elevator 239 00:10:32,594 --> 00:10:35,472 [Jennifer] Elisa Lam case... 240 00:10:35,514 --> 00:10:38,600 [Ozzy] You can see here, 241 00:10:38,642 --> 00:10:39,976 types of numbers. 242 00:10:40,018 --> 00:10:41,895 [music] 243 00:10:41,937 --> 00:10:43,563 And it looks like here, 244 00:10:43,605 --> 00:10:46,274 she's definitely hiding 245 00:10:48,694 --> 00:10:50,237 And the thought process 246 00:10:50,278 --> 00:10:52,114 because if I'm hiding 247 00:10:52,155 --> 00:10:53,990 I wouldn't wanna go into 248 00:10:54,032 --> 00:10:55,575 where I couldn't escape. 249 00:10:55,617 --> 00:10:57,953 And it seems like 250 00:10:57,994 --> 00:10:59,246 she's kind of playing a game. 251 00:10:59,287 --> 00:11:01,206 There's something 252 00:11:01,248 --> 00:11:02,749 You know, I have to wonder. 253 00:11:02,791 --> 00:11:04,626 Is it possible that she 254 00:11:04,668 --> 00:11:07,587 Had hallucinations? 255 00:11:07,629 --> 00:11:10,173 [Ozzy] She was diagnosed 256 00:11:10,215 --> 00:11:11,633 -[Jennifer] Right. 257 00:11:11,675 --> 00:11:13,927 she's seeing something else 258 00:11:13,969 --> 00:11:15,929 [music] 259 00:11:15,971 --> 00:11:18,890 What I'm feeling 260 00:11:18,932 --> 00:11:22,352 she definitely was experiencing 261 00:11:24,104 --> 00:11:28,358 Very odd. It definitely looks 262 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,318 [Jennifer] On a technical note, 263 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,154 in the video 264 00:11:32,195 --> 00:11:33,905 The timecode is blurred out. 265 00:11:33,947 --> 00:11:36,366 There's at least one cut 266 00:11:36,408 --> 00:11:38,076 You can tell this because 267 00:11:38,118 --> 00:11:40,370 makes a jump in the video. 268 00:11:40,412 --> 00:11:42,956 How much of the security footage 269 00:11:42,998 --> 00:11:45,417 And why? 270 00:11:45,459 --> 00:11:47,461 In order to determine 271 00:11:47,502 --> 00:11:49,713 played any part 272 00:11:49,755 --> 00:11:52,632 we need to separate the truth 273 00:11:52,674 --> 00:11:54,217 Journalist Hadley Meares 274 00:11:54,259 --> 00:11:56,720 has researched the history 275 00:11:56,762 --> 00:11:59,890 and the Cecil Hotel, and 276 00:11:59,931 --> 00:12:01,892 It's a natural human want 277 00:12:01,933 --> 00:12:04,019 to believe that 278 00:12:04,060 --> 00:12:06,563 is making these 279 00:12:06,605 --> 00:12:09,566 And that humans aren't 280 00:12:09,608 --> 00:12:12,569 Los Angeles has always been 281 00:12:12,611 --> 00:12:15,197 and it's always been a place 282 00:12:15,238 --> 00:12:16,865 shadows in the land 283 00:12:16,907 --> 00:12:18,992 And you had a lot of people 284 00:12:19,034 --> 00:12:21,495 who wanted to change themselves 285 00:12:21,536 --> 00:12:24,039 And sometimes they came here 286 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:25,749 And when they came here 287 00:12:25,791 --> 00:12:28,001 a lot of the times 288 00:12:28,043 --> 00:12:30,337 under an assumed name, 289 00:12:30,378 --> 00:12:31,963 and jump out the window. 290 00:12:32,005 --> 00:12:36,593 [music] 291 00:12:36,635 --> 00:12:38,094 [Hadley] There's one 292 00:12:38,136 --> 00:12:40,305 of a woman jumping out of 293 00:12:40,347 --> 00:12:43,391 and she fell onto 294 00:12:43,433 --> 00:12:45,644 And it's said they had 295 00:12:45,685 --> 00:12:47,145 from the marquee. 296 00:12:47,187 --> 00:12:49,272 And this was in front of 297 00:12:49,314 --> 00:12:51,858 during the day. 298 00:12:51,900 --> 00:12:54,903 Were they all ruled 299 00:12:54,945 --> 00:12:56,613 [Hadley] Most of the deaths 300 00:12:56,655 --> 00:12:58,156 were ruled as suicide, 301 00:12:58,198 --> 00:13:01,284 but also probably a lot 302 00:13:01,326 --> 00:13:02,786 and the like here. 303 00:13:02,828 --> 00:13:05,080 And there's at least 304 00:13:05,121 --> 00:13:08,333 which is the 1960s murder 305 00:13:08,375 --> 00:13:11,002 called Goldie Osgood. 306 00:13:11,044 --> 00:13:14,381 What about murderers 307 00:13:14,422 --> 00:13:16,466 Murderers were attracted 308 00:13:16,508 --> 00:13:18,051 like a moth to the flame. 309 00:13:18,093 --> 00:13:19,970 And probably one of 310 00:13:20,011 --> 00:13:22,931 is the infamous night stalker 311 00:13:22,973 --> 00:13:26,351 And Ramirez lived 312 00:13:26,393 --> 00:13:30,605 during his active killing spree 313 00:13:30,647 --> 00:13:32,440 In an really shocking twist, 314 00:13:32,482 --> 00:13:35,026 Ramirez became 315 00:13:35,068 --> 00:13:39,364 for an Austrian journalist named 316 00:13:39,406 --> 00:13:41,700 He chose to stay 317 00:13:41,741 --> 00:13:44,703 because he was a fan of Ramirez. 318 00:13:44,744 --> 00:13:47,789 While in LA, the Austrian 319 00:13:47,831 --> 00:13:50,041 by strangling them 320 00:13:50,083 --> 00:13:52,502 tied with his signature knot. 321 00:13:52,544 --> 00:13:55,547 Some say the Cecil 322 00:13:55,589 --> 00:13:59,718 attracting guests as tainted 323 00:13:59,759 --> 00:14:02,637 So, it has a really, 324 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,849 of a lot of terrible things 325 00:14:05,891 --> 00:14:07,517 within these walls. 326 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,436 This is a place of 327 00:14:09,477 --> 00:14:13,607 and the LAPD were often called 328 00:14:13,648 --> 00:14:15,066 Maybe they're scared, too? 329 00:14:15,108 --> 00:14:17,068 Maybe they're scared of 330 00:14:17,110 --> 00:14:18,528 We don't really know. 331 00:14:18,570 --> 00:14:20,071 [Jennifer] What drew this 332 00:14:20,113 --> 00:14:22,240 over the Cecil Hotel? 333 00:14:22,282 --> 00:14:24,576 Desperation? 334 00:14:24,618 --> 00:14:28,330 Or did a vortex of dark energy 335 00:14:28,371 --> 00:14:30,457 [music] 336 00:14:37,839 --> 00:14:39,507 [music] 337 00:14:39,549 --> 00:14:41,301 [Jennifer] The Cecil Hotel 338 00:14:41,343 --> 00:14:43,762 is forever haunted by 339 00:14:43,803 --> 00:14:46,556 dating back to the 1930s. 340 00:14:46,598 --> 00:14:49,225 Elisa Lam was one of 341 00:14:49,267 --> 00:14:52,687 who checked in, 342 00:14:52,729 --> 00:14:54,981 After going missing 343 00:14:55,023 --> 00:14:56,816 her body was found 344 00:14:56,858 --> 00:14:59,527 on the hotel's rooftop. 345 00:14:59,569 --> 00:15:03,323 The 2013 case became 346 00:15:03,365 --> 00:15:06,284 when footage surfaced of her 347 00:15:06,326 --> 00:15:07,827 in the hotel's elevator. 348 00:15:07,869 --> 00:15:11,373 [music] 349 00:15:11,414 --> 00:15:13,291 [Ozzy] A lot of people 350 00:15:13,333 --> 00:15:17,462 that she was playing 351 00:15:17,504 --> 00:15:21,341 The elevator game takes you 352 00:15:21,383 --> 00:15:24,094 You know, what's interesting 353 00:15:24,135 --> 00:15:26,930 also has eerie echoes 354 00:15:26,972 --> 00:15:28,932 entertainment culture 355 00:15:28,974 --> 00:15:30,767 Have you ever heard of 356 00:15:30,809 --> 00:15:32,769 I have, I've never seen it. 357 00:15:32,811 --> 00:15:35,689 [Ozzy] It's an American remake 358 00:15:35,730 --> 00:15:39,901 The plot involves a young girl, 359 00:15:39,943 --> 00:15:41,653 just like the Cecil Hotel. 360 00:15:41,695 --> 00:15:43,071 Super creepy. 361 00:15:43,113 --> 00:15:44,990 There's a malfunctioning 362 00:15:45,031 --> 00:15:46,616 and ominous dark water 363 00:15:46,658 --> 00:15:48,118 the apartment building. 364 00:15:48,159 --> 00:15:51,287 But for the guests who stayed 365 00:15:51,329 --> 00:15:53,456 when Elisa Lam vanished, 366 00:15:53,498 --> 00:15:56,710 it was the taste of the dark 367 00:15:56,751 --> 00:15:58,920 [Reporter] Some hotel guests 368 00:15:58,961 --> 00:16:00,588 Wouldn't you be? 369 00:16:00,630 --> 00:16:03,008 If there was, was, 370 00:16:03,049 --> 00:16:04,843 that you were using 371 00:16:04,884 --> 00:16:07,012 What makes me believe that 372 00:16:07,053 --> 00:16:09,848 that ties all of these 373 00:16:09,889 --> 00:16:11,641 [music] 374 00:16:11,683 --> 00:16:13,435 There's been a lot 375 00:16:13,476 --> 00:16:15,520 that Elisa Lam was playing 376 00:16:15,562 --> 00:16:17,397 as the Korean elevator game. 377 00:16:17,439 --> 00:16:20,442 So, we brought in paranormal 378 00:16:20,483 --> 00:16:23,111 to tell us more about the game 379 00:16:23,153 --> 00:16:25,447 So, the elevator game 380 00:16:25,488 --> 00:16:28,241 And it originated from 381 00:16:28,283 --> 00:16:31,119 No one's really sure when 382 00:16:31,161 --> 00:16:33,079 but it's been around 383 00:16:33,121 --> 00:16:35,707 and people all over the world 384 00:16:35,749 --> 00:16:39,252 If you follow the very 385 00:16:39,294 --> 00:16:41,379 then it's said you can 386 00:16:41,421 --> 00:16:43,214 to a another dimension. 387 00:16:43,256 --> 00:16:44,841 What are those rules? 388 00:16:44,883 --> 00:16:47,343 If you enter the elevator 389 00:16:47,385 --> 00:16:49,179 you're supposed to 390 00:16:49,220 --> 00:16:51,306 in a very specific sequence. 391 00:16:51,347 --> 00:16:53,308 And then once you've 392 00:16:53,349 --> 00:16:56,061 you are in another dimension. 393 00:16:56,102 --> 00:16:58,354 [Jennifer] So, imagine I was 394 00:16:58,396 --> 00:17:00,190 what's the sequence 395 00:17:00,231 --> 00:17:02,150 and why is that important? 396 00:17:02,192 --> 00:17:03,651 [Sapphire] When you 397 00:17:03,693 --> 00:17:06,863 the very first button you're 398 00:17:06,904 --> 00:17:09,574 So, you wait for the lift 399 00:17:09,615 --> 00:17:11,451 and you wait for 400 00:17:11,492 --> 00:17:13,620 You have to make sure 401 00:17:13,661 --> 00:17:15,497 because if anybody joins you, 402 00:17:15,538 --> 00:17:17,790 then the game is ruined 403 00:17:17,832 --> 00:17:20,335 So, after four, 404 00:17:20,375 --> 00:17:22,003 Two, then six. 405 00:17:22,045 --> 00:17:26,633 Six, two, two, ten, 406 00:17:26,673 --> 00:17:28,843 And then five is when it gets 407 00:17:28,885 --> 00:17:30,595 'cause that's when they say 408 00:17:30,637 --> 00:17:34,015 that a woman might enter 409 00:17:34,057 --> 00:17:36,643 and if she does, 410 00:17:36,684 --> 00:17:39,729 a totally different dimension. 411 00:17:39,771 --> 00:17:42,690 A woman might enter 412 00:17:48,321 --> 00:17:50,281 Now, do you know anyone 413 00:17:50,323 --> 00:17:51,699 Have you played yourself? 414 00:17:51,741 --> 00:17:53,409 I have not played 415 00:17:53,451 --> 00:17:56,162 but I've seen a lot of videos 416 00:17:56,204 --> 00:17:59,249 And actually, they say that 417 00:17:59,290 --> 00:18:01,084 you can become disoriented. 418 00:18:01,126 --> 00:18:02,669 Some people faint. 419 00:18:05,588 --> 00:18:07,173 [Jennifer] I have to think if 420 00:18:07,215 --> 00:18:10,343 I was in a position where 421 00:18:10,385 --> 00:18:14,973 and I didn't necessarily know 422 00:18:15,014 --> 00:18:17,809 I can certainly see how somebody 423 00:18:17,851 --> 00:18:19,853 and it could induce that terror. 424 00:18:21,563 --> 00:18:24,357 Well, I'd actually like 425 00:18:24,399 --> 00:18:30,280 [music] 426 00:18:32,365 --> 00:18:35,326 I'm just not seeing 427 00:18:35,368 --> 00:18:38,329 I'm seeing her kind of 428 00:18:38,371 --> 00:18:40,915 So, people who have 429 00:18:40,957 --> 00:18:43,668 or claim that they've 430 00:18:43,710 --> 00:18:45,461 they say that when you're there 431 00:18:45,503 --> 00:18:48,923 you feel very disoriented, 432 00:18:48,965 --> 00:18:51,176 and that the air 433 00:18:51,217 --> 00:18:53,261 So, maybe she's acting this way 434 00:18:53,303 --> 00:18:55,388 because she's trying to 435 00:18:55,430 --> 00:18:58,308 through the very 436 00:18:58,349 --> 00:19:01,603 In this game, you also have to 437 00:19:01,644 --> 00:19:03,855 Because if you don't, 438 00:19:03,897 --> 00:19:09,360 [music] 439 00:19:09,402 --> 00:19:11,863 [Jennifer] My research has led 440 00:19:11,905 --> 00:19:13,198 at the Cecil Hotel. 441 00:19:15,241 --> 00:19:18,077 Death metal musician, 442 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,163 I'm curious and excited 443 00:19:20,205 --> 00:19:23,416 and learn more about his own 444 00:19:23,458 --> 00:19:25,043 in the hotel. 445 00:19:25,084 --> 00:19:28,546 Morbid, you stayed at the Cecil 446 00:19:28,588 --> 00:19:30,715 and were later 447 00:19:30,757 --> 00:19:33,426 in the disappearance 448 00:19:33,468 --> 00:19:35,762 How did all of that 449 00:19:35,803 --> 00:19:38,264 Just one day, 450 00:19:38,306 --> 00:19:41,267 posts with my pictures. 451 00:19:41,309 --> 00:19:45,605 With my videos, and somebody, 452 00:19:45,647 --> 00:19:47,899 It, it happened so quick, 453 00:19:47,941 --> 00:19:50,985 Just escalated, and things 454 00:19:51,027 --> 00:19:52,528 and out of control 455 00:19:52,570 --> 00:19:54,822 I was blamed just because 456 00:19:54,864 --> 00:19:56,699 'cause the kind of 457 00:19:56,741 --> 00:19:58,910 While I play black metal, 458 00:19:58,952 --> 00:20:00,954 I couldn't even kill 459 00:20:00,995 --> 00:20:02,455 You know? 460 00:20:02,497 --> 00:20:04,999 So, that's something that's 461 00:20:05,041 --> 00:20:07,168 There's nothing 462 00:20:07,210 --> 00:20:10,004 Thinking back at your stay 463 00:20:10,046 --> 00:20:13,216 what was it like when you went 464 00:20:13,258 --> 00:20:16,344 I could definitely feel 465 00:20:16,386 --> 00:20:19,347 On the elevator, like, 466 00:20:19,389 --> 00:20:21,140 Strange place. 467 00:20:21,182 --> 00:20:23,059 Do you believe that 468 00:20:23,101 --> 00:20:26,271 are just drawn to the energy 469 00:20:26,312 --> 00:20:28,690 Yeah, I believe so. 470 00:20:28,731 --> 00:20:31,526 connected to 471 00:20:31,567 --> 00:20:34,279 Do you believe that 472 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:38,032 could possibly be some sort of 473 00:20:38,074 --> 00:20:40,076 [Morbid] It attracts just 474 00:20:40,118 --> 00:20:41,661 and from all the places, 475 00:20:41,703 --> 00:20:43,413 that's just, like, 476 00:20:43,454 --> 00:20:45,999 it's very inherent, like, 477 00:20:47,792 --> 00:20:50,378 To see if the Cecil's past 478 00:20:50,420 --> 00:20:52,547 we're meeting historian 479 00:20:52,588 --> 00:20:54,632 who's investigated 480 00:20:54,674 --> 00:20:57,677 surrounding many 481 00:20:57,719 --> 00:21:01,055 Numerous people have suffered 482 00:21:01,097 --> 00:21:05,226 including college student 483 00:21:05,268 --> 00:21:08,521 Is it the building itself that 484 00:21:08,563 --> 00:21:10,898 and untimely demise? 485 00:21:10,940 --> 00:21:12,442 Now, Craig, you're a historian. 486 00:21:12,483 --> 00:21:15,653 But you also take into account 487 00:21:15,695 --> 00:21:17,071 of the places you visit. 488 00:21:17,113 --> 00:21:19,490 [Craig] Exactly. 489 00:21:19,532 --> 00:21:21,451 and use history 490 00:21:21,492 --> 00:21:25,371 I'm trying to separate 491 00:21:25,413 --> 00:21:28,833 or urban legends 492 00:21:28,875 --> 00:21:31,586 Was there a specific reason 493 00:21:31,627 --> 00:21:33,755 at that particular location? 494 00:21:33,796 --> 00:21:35,340 [Craig] One of the main reasons 495 00:21:35,381 --> 00:21:38,885 the Pacific Electric railway 496 00:21:38,926 --> 00:21:40,928 which was a block away. 497 00:21:40,970 --> 00:21:43,348 And at that time, 498 00:21:43,389 --> 00:21:45,475 were coming into Los Angeles. 499 00:21:45,516 --> 00:21:49,729 So, they built this big 500 00:21:49,771 --> 00:21:51,606 and it was a no-brainer 501 00:21:51,647 --> 00:21:53,858 that people would 502 00:21:53,900 --> 00:21:58,780 And so, that almost ensured 503 00:21:58,821 --> 00:22:01,366 [Ozzy] So when did the hotel 504 00:22:01,407 --> 00:22:02,825 these bizarre deaths? 505 00:22:02,867 --> 00:22:04,911 [Craig] The first suicide 506 00:22:04,952 --> 00:22:08,414 actually took place 507 00:22:08,456 --> 00:22:12,126 And it was a man named 508 00:22:12,168 --> 00:22:14,879 And he was a fairly 509 00:22:14,921 --> 00:22:18,424 He wrote a suicide note, 510 00:22:18,466 --> 00:22:20,802 [gunshot] 511 00:22:20,843 --> 00:22:23,179 If there's any kind 512 00:22:23,221 --> 00:22:26,099 which I personally believe 513 00:22:26,140 --> 00:22:29,018 it did start happening 514 00:22:29,060 --> 00:22:33,106 [music] 515 00:22:33,147 --> 00:22:35,566 [Craig] The Cecil has 516 00:22:35,608 --> 00:22:37,318 for being a haunted hotel. 517 00:22:37,360 --> 00:22:41,447 [music] 518 00:22:47,495 --> 00:22:49,288 [music] 519 00:22:49,330 --> 00:22:50,957 [Jennifer] The Cecil Hotel 520 00:22:50,998 --> 00:22:53,709 has been touted as 521 00:22:53,751 --> 00:22:56,629 because of the unnerving 522 00:22:56,671 --> 00:22:59,215 and tragedy which have 523 00:22:59,257 --> 00:23:02,343 [Ozzy] Is it tied to paranormal 524 00:23:02,385 --> 00:23:04,262 [Jennifer] Journalist 525 00:23:04,303 --> 00:23:07,056 are investigating 526 00:23:07,098 --> 00:23:09,851 and attempting to find out 527 00:23:09,892 --> 00:23:13,062 which has led it to be dubbed 528 00:23:13,104 --> 00:23:14,730 [police sirens] 529 00:23:14,772 --> 00:23:16,858 [Ozzy] Do you think 530 00:23:16,899 --> 00:23:19,193 draws people because of 531 00:23:19,235 --> 00:23:21,779 that have happened there? 532 00:23:21,821 --> 00:23:25,700 the Cecil Hotel is creating 533 00:23:25,741 --> 00:23:30,371 Well, they named the Cecil 534 00:23:30,413 --> 00:23:33,708 That was even before 535 00:23:33,749 --> 00:23:36,794 They were trying to rebrand it. 536 00:23:36,836 --> 00:23:39,881 The Cecil never recovered 537 00:23:39,922 --> 00:23:42,550 Ever, and it just got worse. 538 00:23:42,592 --> 00:23:45,845 The early '30s suicides 539 00:23:45,887 --> 00:23:47,847 gunshot wounds, pills... 540 00:23:47,889 --> 00:23:51,392 And it seems to me that 541 00:23:51,434 --> 00:23:56,314 a series of people to 542 00:23:56,355 --> 00:23:59,192 [Ozzy] A lot of people, when 543 00:23:59,233 --> 00:24:01,194 they feel overwhelmed. 544 00:24:01,235 --> 00:24:04,322 Do you feel that 545 00:24:04,363 --> 00:24:06,407 has some sort of dark energy 546 00:24:06,449 --> 00:24:08,910 that makes these people 547 00:24:08,951 --> 00:24:11,746 [Craig] It seems impossible 548 00:24:11,787 --> 00:24:14,207 considering the history 549 00:24:14,248 --> 00:24:18,794 that were either suicide, 550 00:24:18,836 --> 00:24:21,422 What is your final take 551 00:24:21,464 --> 00:24:24,467 this property has 552 00:24:24,509 --> 00:24:27,845 Well, there's definitely 553 00:24:27,887 --> 00:24:30,556 that's bringing people 554 00:24:30,598 --> 00:24:32,475 And that's kind of what 555 00:24:32,517 --> 00:24:33,893 from the other hotels. 556 00:24:33,935 --> 00:24:35,394 It's like a domino effect. 557 00:24:35,436 --> 00:24:37,104 It just seems to keep... 558 00:24:37,146 --> 00:24:39,732 The negative narrative going. 559 00:24:39,774 --> 00:24:42,777 [music] 560 00:24:42,818 --> 00:24:44,612 [Jennifer] Ozzy and I 561 00:24:44,654 --> 00:24:46,948 two of the last people 562 00:24:46,989 --> 00:24:50,034 at LA's renowned 563 00:24:50,076 --> 00:24:53,246 Were you here the day 564 00:24:53,287 --> 00:24:54,789 Yes, ma'am, I was. 565 00:24:54,830 --> 00:24:56,666 At the time, I was actually 566 00:24:56,707 --> 00:24:58,417 She was conversating 567 00:24:58,459 --> 00:25:00,503 at the time, 568 00:25:00,545 --> 00:25:02,630 [Jennifer] How did you 569 00:25:02,672 --> 00:25:04,215 Did she initiate 570 00:25:04,257 --> 00:25:05,800 Did she ask for help? 571 00:25:05,841 --> 00:25:08,344 She did. 572 00:25:08,386 --> 00:25:12,223 I'd seen her interacting 573 00:25:12,265 --> 00:25:14,225 and by the time 574 00:25:14,267 --> 00:25:15,935 she was coming up 575 00:25:15,977 --> 00:25:17,687 to ask questions. 576 00:25:17,728 --> 00:25:20,439 So, did the questions seem 577 00:25:20,481 --> 00:25:22,191 Or did it seem like 578 00:25:22,233 --> 00:25:23,568 and trying to start 579 00:25:23,609 --> 00:25:25,069 A little bit of both. 580 00:25:25,111 --> 00:25:29,156 She was asking about 581 00:25:29,198 --> 00:25:31,617 because she was buying 582 00:25:31,659 --> 00:25:33,786 But she was also asking 583 00:25:33,828 --> 00:25:35,371 a lot more personal. 584 00:25:35,413 --> 00:25:38,708 [Jennifer] So, Elisa 585 00:25:38,749 --> 00:25:40,585 that you would remember her 586 00:25:40,626 --> 00:25:43,129 if not over a hundred customers 587 00:25:43,170 --> 00:25:45,464 [Katie] She kind of stood out 588 00:25:45,506 --> 00:25:47,967 [music] 589 00:25:48,009 --> 00:25:50,636 [Ozzy] What do you 590 00:25:50,678 --> 00:25:53,139 Did you find anything 591 00:25:53,180 --> 00:25:55,683 or anything odd when she 592 00:25:55,725 --> 00:25:57,560 Not at all. 593 00:25:57,602 --> 00:26:01,314 and she's just looking around 594 00:26:01,355 --> 00:26:05,067 I remember she wanted to go to 595 00:26:05,109 --> 00:26:07,737 She even asked what was 596 00:26:07,778 --> 00:26:10,740 'cause, you know, 597 00:26:10,781 --> 00:26:12,533 [Jennifer] Now, 598 00:26:12,575 --> 00:26:14,660 when the police contacted you. 599 00:26:14,702 --> 00:26:16,871 -It was within a week... 600 00:26:16,912 --> 00:26:19,665 Of her disappearance 601 00:26:19,707 --> 00:26:21,250 Her parents hadn't 602 00:26:21,292 --> 00:26:23,544 and they contacted LAPD. 603 00:26:23,586 --> 00:26:26,339 And in searching 604 00:26:26,380 --> 00:26:27,923 they had found 605 00:26:27,965 --> 00:26:29,508 she had bought at the store, 606 00:26:29,550 --> 00:26:31,177 and they were able to 607 00:26:31,218 --> 00:26:32,762 that this was the last place 608 00:26:32,803 --> 00:26:36,432 that they could guarantee 609 00:26:36,474 --> 00:26:39,018 Did you have an inkling 610 00:26:39,060 --> 00:26:40,561 or what had happened? 611 00:26:40,603 --> 00:26:42,104 Not really. 612 00:26:42,146 --> 00:26:46,567 I had no idea whether or not 613 00:26:46,609 --> 00:26:49,362 but having her disappear 614 00:26:49,403 --> 00:26:51,739 and not be heard from 615 00:26:51,781 --> 00:26:54,659 seemed like something 616 00:26:54,700 --> 00:26:56,744 And then, shortly after that, 617 00:26:56,786 --> 00:27:00,289 the video of her 618 00:27:00,331 --> 00:27:03,793 [music] 619 00:27:03,834 --> 00:27:06,253 [Jennifer] Are you absolutely 620 00:27:06,295 --> 00:27:08,005 -and left alone? 621 00:27:08,047 --> 00:27:10,841 A lot of our conversation 622 00:27:10,883 --> 00:27:12,635 intending to go home. 623 00:27:12,677 --> 00:27:16,514 And she was talking about items 624 00:27:16,555 --> 00:27:20,810 She seemed to have 625 00:27:20,851 --> 00:27:22,937 That aspect of someone 626 00:27:22,978 --> 00:27:24,814 wasn't present in 627 00:27:24,855 --> 00:27:26,315 that we had, had with her. 628 00:27:26,357 --> 00:27:27,858 [Jennifer] Over the last 629 00:27:27,900 --> 00:27:30,194 and it seems that this case, 630 00:27:30,236 --> 00:27:32,029 It's on social media. 631 00:27:32,071 --> 00:27:35,616 Is it still on your mind, 632 00:27:35,658 --> 00:27:37,618 Yeah. 633 00:27:37,660 --> 00:27:41,455 It, it is. 634 00:27:41,497 --> 00:27:42,915 Fairly often. 635 00:27:44,667 --> 00:27:46,377 [Jennifer] Regardless of how 636 00:27:46,419 --> 00:27:47,837 enshrouded in darkness, 637 00:27:47,878 --> 00:27:50,756 there's no denying 638 00:27:50,798 --> 00:27:53,217 elicits terror in its guests. 639 00:27:53,259 --> 00:27:55,928 Jackie and Edward Dixon 640 00:27:55,970 --> 00:27:58,139 before the Elisa Lam incident 641 00:27:58,180 --> 00:28:00,683 made the Cecil synonymous 642 00:28:00,725 --> 00:28:04,061 The building is massive, right? 643 00:28:04,103 --> 00:28:07,106 "Well, okay, the sign looks 644 00:28:07,148 --> 00:28:09,400 But that's okay, it's older. 645 00:28:09,442 --> 00:28:12,319 We walk in, and the lobby is, 646 00:28:12,361 --> 00:28:15,281 It's like Old Hollywood, 647 00:28:15,322 --> 00:28:16,991 There's nobody there, 648 00:28:17,032 --> 00:28:19,618 one front desk person. 649 00:28:19,660 --> 00:28:21,912 "Well, you know, 650 00:28:21,954 --> 00:28:23,748 So, this is gonna be 651 00:28:23,789 --> 00:28:25,875 So, did you know about 652 00:28:25,916 --> 00:28:27,668 -before you went there? 653 00:28:27,710 --> 00:28:29,211 We just booked it last minute. 654 00:28:29,253 --> 00:28:31,338 [Edward] It was just 655 00:28:31,380 --> 00:28:33,591 We were going to a festival, 656 00:28:33,632 --> 00:28:35,009 hanging out 657 00:28:35,050 --> 00:28:37,052 Once we, you know, 658 00:28:37,094 --> 00:28:39,263 got in the elevator, and started 659 00:28:39,305 --> 00:28:43,225 that's kinda when things kinda 660 00:28:43,267 --> 00:28:46,312 You know, it had a weird, 661 00:28:46,353 --> 00:28:49,607 -And not a good one. 662 00:28:49,648 --> 00:28:51,984 [Edward] We found out we had 663 00:28:52,026 --> 00:28:53,694 but as it turns out, 664 00:28:53,736 --> 00:28:55,404 any other guests 665 00:28:55,446 --> 00:28:57,448 [Jackie] How can you be 666 00:28:57,490 --> 00:28:59,241 you don't see a single person 667 00:28:59,283 --> 00:29:01,327 other than the 668 00:29:01,368 --> 00:29:03,120 Then we go to our room, 669 00:29:03,162 --> 00:29:05,498 it looks like there was, 670 00:29:07,875 --> 00:29:09,418 The anxiety came in 671 00:29:09,460 --> 00:29:11,045 I had to go to the bathroom. 672 00:29:11,086 --> 00:29:13,506 And I had to walk down the hall. 673 00:29:13,547 --> 00:29:15,758 So, he's like, "You're not going 674 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,052 So, he had to escort me 675 00:29:18,093 --> 00:29:21,055 It's the longest walk 676 00:29:21,096 --> 00:29:22,973 Just because it's, 677 00:29:23,015 --> 00:29:24,850 And I'm not one to get scared, 678 00:29:24,892 --> 00:29:27,853 but there's like, a feeling when 679 00:29:27,895 --> 00:29:30,272 Have you ever experienced 680 00:29:30,314 --> 00:29:32,024 [Jackie] Well, see, 681 00:29:32,066 --> 00:29:34,360 We've been to Europe, we've 682 00:29:34,401 --> 00:29:35,820 much older than this. 683 00:29:35,861 --> 00:29:38,155 We've even been to 684 00:29:38,197 --> 00:29:41,784 where people have been tortured, 685 00:29:41,826 --> 00:29:43,953 All you felt was history. 686 00:29:43,994 --> 00:29:46,247 You feel something. 687 00:29:46,288 --> 00:29:48,999 [Edward] It was definitely 688 00:29:49,041 --> 00:29:50,626 I've ever stayed. 689 00:29:50,668 --> 00:29:52,545 [Jennifer] And y'all have never 690 00:29:52,586 --> 00:29:54,505 before you stayed there, 691 00:29:54,547 --> 00:29:57,550 [Jackie] No. 692 00:29:57,591 --> 00:30:00,302 As scared or fearful 693 00:30:00,344 --> 00:30:02,054 than I did at that visit. 694 00:30:02,096 --> 00:30:04,306 I felt like I was in 695 00:30:04,348 --> 00:30:06,725 And it's got 600 rooms, 696 00:30:06,767 --> 00:30:08,394 although I can hear 697 00:30:08,435 --> 00:30:10,479 [music] 698 00:30:10,521 --> 00:30:12,606 [Jackie] Whether or not 699 00:30:12,648 --> 00:30:14,942 or if they were ghosts, 700 00:30:14,984 --> 00:30:16,277 [music] 701 00:30:22,157 --> 00:30:24,535 [music] 702 00:30:24,577 --> 00:30:27,371 [Jennifer] Many LA buildings 703 00:30:27,413 --> 00:30:30,249 Eerie stand-ins for what 704 00:30:30,291 --> 00:30:33,002 on the roof 705 00:30:33,043 --> 00:30:36,255 People keep going back to 706 00:30:36,297 --> 00:30:38,173 And Ozzy has long been convinced 707 00:30:38,215 --> 00:30:39,800 that there's 708 00:30:39,842 --> 00:30:41,886 behind the hotel's death count. 709 00:30:41,927 --> 00:30:43,470 That it's the incarnation 710 00:30:43,512 --> 00:30:46,640 of a classic haunted 711 00:30:46,682 --> 00:30:48,517 While I connect 712 00:30:48,559 --> 00:30:51,562 she's meeting with 713 00:30:51,604 --> 00:30:54,106 Greg Kading, who was 714 00:30:54,148 --> 00:30:56,025 to learn more. 715 00:30:56,066 --> 00:30:58,611 [Ozzy] Detective, 716 00:30:58,652 --> 00:31:00,362 the Cecil Hotel has. 717 00:31:00,404 --> 00:31:03,282 I do. Anybody who's worked 718 00:31:03,324 --> 00:31:04,825 especially in law enforcement, 719 00:31:04,867 --> 00:31:06,493 is familiar with 720 00:31:06,535 --> 00:31:09,705 It's got a kind of unique 721 00:31:09,747 --> 00:31:13,584 In 2013, LAPD released 722 00:31:13,626 --> 00:31:17,379 of Elisa Lam inside 723 00:31:17,421 --> 00:31:19,214 It was very disturbing. 724 00:31:19,256 --> 00:31:23,218 Did the police pursue that she 725 00:31:23,260 --> 00:31:25,721 -talking to someone else? 726 00:31:25,763 --> 00:31:27,932 that's what the missing 727 00:31:27,973 --> 00:31:29,850 They're trying to make sense 728 00:31:29,892 --> 00:31:31,602 [music] 729 00:31:31,644 --> 00:31:34,271 [Greg] Like, why is she 730 00:31:34,313 --> 00:31:36,774 So, they wanna know. 731 00:31:36,815 --> 00:31:38,233 Was she talking to somebody? 732 00:31:38,275 --> 00:31:40,152 Was she having a confrontation 733 00:31:40,194 --> 00:31:41,654 Is she waiting for a friend? 734 00:31:41,695 --> 00:31:43,280 And all those things are, 735 00:31:43,322 --> 00:31:45,199 through a process 736 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,910 Hopefully answered through 737 00:31:47,952 --> 00:31:50,329 One of the parts that 738 00:31:50,371 --> 00:31:53,832 is the fact that the timecode, 739 00:31:53,874 --> 00:31:55,542 it's, it's blurred. 740 00:31:55,584 --> 00:31:58,212 [Greg] Yeah, which from 741 00:31:58,253 --> 00:31:59,880 you would do that intentionally. 742 00:31:59,922 --> 00:32:02,508 And one of the reasons 743 00:32:02,549 --> 00:32:04,969 that you're not releasing 744 00:32:05,010 --> 00:32:08,347 that a potential suspect 745 00:32:08,389 --> 00:32:10,140 So, if you get rid of the time, 746 00:32:10,182 --> 00:32:12,893 and you're questioning 747 00:32:12,935 --> 00:32:15,729 you wanna make sure times 748 00:32:15,771 --> 00:32:17,940 -what they're saying. 749 00:32:17,982 --> 00:32:20,275 there's a couple of edits, 750 00:32:20,317 --> 00:32:22,569 it looks like it speeds up. 751 00:32:22,611 --> 00:32:24,863 [Greg] Yes, 'cause they'll take 752 00:32:24,905 --> 00:32:28,409 of the video is that they 753 00:32:28,450 --> 00:32:31,453 and they take that down 754 00:32:31,495 --> 00:32:33,038 And then reformat it. 755 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,374 And then when you 756 00:32:35,416 --> 00:32:37,209 again, you just give 757 00:32:37,251 --> 00:32:38,752 for the public to help you, 758 00:32:38,794 --> 00:32:41,422 but you don't give 759 00:32:41,463 --> 00:32:47,344 [music] 760 00:32:50,806 --> 00:32:53,892 [Jennifer] Critics claiming the 761 00:32:53,934 --> 00:32:56,854 focus on the findings of 762 00:32:56,895 --> 00:32:58,731 Among its apparent 763 00:32:58,772 --> 00:33:00,649 is the cause of death 764 00:33:00,691 --> 00:33:04,194 "could not be determined" 765 00:33:04,236 --> 00:33:06,613 Thank you so much 766 00:33:06,655 --> 00:33:08,699 Dr. Nadia Nashi has agreed 767 00:33:08,741 --> 00:33:10,576 a pathologist's perspective, 768 00:33:10,617 --> 00:33:12,911 to analyze what 769 00:33:12,953 --> 00:33:14,830 When you went though 770 00:33:14,872 --> 00:33:16,957 was there anything 771 00:33:16,999 --> 00:33:19,168 that would suggest 772 00:33:19,209 --> 00:33:22,629 I did not see any evidence 773 00:33:22,671 --> 00:33:26,550 No external injuries, 774 00:33:26,592 --> 00:33:29,178 Her being unconscious 775 00:33:29,219 --> 00:33:30,846 is also unlikely, 776 00:33:30,888 --> 00:33:32,890 because if you drop somebody 777 00:33:32,931 --> 00:33:35,100 into an eight feet tank, 778 00:33:35,142 --> 00:33:36,935 then they'll probably 779 00:33:36,977 --> 00:33:39,521 And her hitting her head from, 780 00:33:39,563 --> 00:33:41,106 an eight feet height, 781 00:33:41,148 --> 00:33:43,275 we will see evidence 782 00:33:43,317 --> 00:33:44,985 And the autopsy report 783 00:33:45,027 --> 00:33:47,362 didn't find any evidence 784 00:33:47,404 --> 00:33:48,864 hemorrhage 785 00:33:48,906 --> 00:33:50,699 Many people have questioned 786 00:33:50,741 --> 00:33:53,786 the autopsy report said 787 00:33:53,827 --> 00:33:55,704 and later it was marked 788 00:33:55,746 --> 00:33:57,706 Is that unusual? 789 00:33:57,748 --> 00:34:00,751 [Dr. Nashi] No. The marking 790 00:34:00,793 --> 00:34:03,712 Given her anatomical summary, 791 00:34:03,754 --> 00:34:06,381 you can't really determine 792 00:34:06,423 --> 00:34:08,716 'cause there was, you know, 793 00:34:08,759 --> 00:34:11,178 But really, the key 794 00:34:11,220 --> 00:34:13,722 was the toxicology report 795 00:34:13,763 --> 00:34:17,935 [music] 796 00:34:17,975 --> 00:34:20,604 Walk me through the second time 797 00:34:20,646 --> 00:34:22,939 to come back to 798 00:34:22,981 --> 00:34:25,484 [Greg] In this situation, 799 00:34:25,526 --> 00:34:27,820 Detectives had gone 800 00:34:27,861 --> 00:34:31,031 They had information that people 801 00:34:31,073 --> 00:34:32,866 to look at the stars, 802 00:34:32,908 --> 00:34:34,618 and to hang out 803 00:34:34,660 --> 00:34:38,080 [Ozzy] But we're told that 804 00:34:38,122 --> 00:34:39,873 [Greg] Well, of course, 805 00:34:39,915 --> 00:34:41,750 would want to lead you 806 00:34:41,792 --> 00:34:44,127 Because there's 807 00:34:44,169 --> 00:34:46,171 When the dogs were 808 00:34:46,213 --> 00:34:48,173 why didn't they 809 00:34:48,214 --> 00:34:50,300 She's submerged in water. 810 00:34:50,341 --> 00:34:52,761 And we find out later that 811 00:34:52,803 --> 00:34:54,930 submerged in water, 812 00:34:54,972 --> 00:34:56,849 that would have 813 00:34:56,890 --> 00:34:58,600 was all at the bottom 814 00:34:58,642 --> 00:35:00,060 Everything's kind of 815 00:35:00,102 --> 00:35:02,813 and it's an outdoor environment 816 00:35:02,855 --> 00:35:05,149 Unfortunately, the thought 817 00:35:05,190 --> 00:35:07,776 to check the water tanks. 818 00:35:07,818 --> 00:35:11,029 [music] 819 00:35:11,071 --> 00:35:12,489 I appreciated hearing 820 00:35:12,531 --> 00:35:14,783 a homicide detective's 821 00:35:14,825 --> 00:35:17,202 But he didn't convince me 822 00:35:17,244 --> 00:35:18,537 was not involved. 823 00:35:18,579 --> 00:35:20,080 [music] 824 00:35:20,122 --> 00:35:22,749 Was there any evidence 825 00:35:22,791 --> 00:35:24,209 under the influence of drugs? 826 00:35:24,251 --> 00:35:26,378 Whether prescription, 827 00:35:26,420 --> 00:35:29,756 There's no evidence indicating 828 00:35:29,798 --> 00:35:31,383 of any recreational drugs. 829 00:35:31,425 --> 00:35:33,927 Bipolar with psychotic features 830 00:35:33,969 --> 00:35:35,929 requires a mood stabilizer, 831 00:35:35,971 --> 00:35:38,932 which was on her prescription 832 00:35:38,974 --> 00:35:41,685 but it was not found in 833 00:35:41,727 --> 00:35:45,105 Which means that she was not 834 00:35:45,147 --> 00:35:48,984 And also, she was on 835 00:35:49,026 --> 00:35:51,737 which is like, 836 00:35:51,778 --> 00:35:54,114 That medication also 837 00:35:54,156 --> 00:35:56,491 in her blood at the time 838 00:35:56,533 --> 00:36:02,664 [music] 839 00:36:02,706 --> 00:36:04,333 [Jennifer] The Cecil Hotel 840 00:36:04,374 --> 00:36:07,252 of what's known as 841 00:36:07,294 --> 00:36:09,796 The area can be 842 00:36:09,838 --> 00:36:12,382 But a hotel as some sort 843 00:36:12,424 --> 00:36:13,926 seems a stretch. 844 00:36:13,967 --> 00:36:15,594 To thoroughly test 845 00:36:15,636 --> 00:36:17,346 I'm meeting up with 846 00:36:17,387 --> 00:36:19,097 who has agreed to bring 847 00:36:19,139 --> 00:36:20,974 in her work as a psychic 848 00:36:21,016 --> 00:36:23,685 to test the area 849 00:36:23,727 --> 00:36:25,062 Okay. 850 00:36:25,103 --> 00:36:26,605 [music] 851 00:36:26,647 --> 00:36:28,941 Even being out here, 852 00:36:28,982 --> 00:36:30,859 [Patti] I definitely 853 00:36:30,901 --> 00:36:33,070 It starts out in my gut. 854 00:36:33,111 --> 00:36:35,239 [Jennifer] So, Patti, how would 855 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,658 to test to see 856 00:36:37,699 --> 00:36:40,577 I cannot control these at all. 857 00:36:40,619 --> 00:36:42,162 For divination purposes, 858 00:36:42,204 --> 00:36:44,873 they literally cross on yes 859 00:36:44,915 --> 00:36:50,045 Like, we are standing at 860 00:36:50,087 --> 00:36:51,546 Yes, we are. 861 00:36:51,588 --> 00:36:54,883 We are at the Eiffel Tower 862 00:36:54,925 --> 00:36:56,468 No, we're not. 863 00:36:56,510 --> 00:36:58,262 Where is the vortex here? 864 00:37:01,848 --> 00:37:03,392 [Jennifer] The Cecil, not me. 865 00:37:03,433 --> 00:37:07,437 It's pointing right past you, 866 00:37:07,479 --> 00:37:11,233 Point to the energy of the main 867 00:37:11,275 --> 00:37:16,780 [music] 868 00:37:18,282 --> 00:37:19,783 It's right there. 869 00:37:23,453 --> 00:37:26,498 Are there spirits here? 870 00:37:26,540 --> 00:37:28,458 Yes. 871 00:37:28,500 --> 00:37:31,503 Are there stuck spirits here? 872 00:37:31,545 --> 00:37:33,880 Yes. 873 00:37:33,922 --> 00:37:36,341 Is the spirit 874 00:37:39,052 --> 00:37:40,429 I felt her so strong. 875 00:37:40,470 --> 00:37:42,139 [music] 876 00:37:48,437 --> 00:37:52,649 [music] 877 00:37:52,691 --> 00:37:54,693 [Jennifer] It's been suggested 878 00:37:54,735 --> 00:37:57,321 in a water tank atop 879 00:37:57,362 --> 00:38:00,949 was spurred by a demonic force 880 00:38:00,991 --> 00:38:02,492 To explore this theory, 881 00:38:02,534 --> 00:38:05,412 I've elicited the help 882 00:38:05,454 --> 00:38:07,706 who claims she encountered 883 00:38:07,748 --> 00:38:10,334 when she visited 884 00:38:10,375 --> 00:38:11,877 [Patti] This is 885 00:38:11,918 --> 00:38:14,421 which has words in it, 886 00:38:14,463 --> 00:38:16,048 Anybody who wants to speak, 887 00:38:16,089 --> 00:38:18,759 there's programmed words 888 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,635 Is there somebody here 889 00:38:20,677 --> 00:38:24,139 [music] 890 00:38:24,181 --> 00:38:25,766 [Jennifer] I think a place 891 00:38:25,807 --> 00:38:28,560 that has so much 892 00:38:28,602 --> 00:38:31,438 [static] 893 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,190 -[Patti] That was weird. 894 00:38:33,231 --> 00:38:34,858 [Patti] Yeah, speaking of, 895 00:38:34,900 --> 00:38:36,902 I'm more inclined to believe 896 00:38:36,943 --> 00:38:39,071 than, let's say, in 897 00:38:39,112 --> 00:38:40,614 [Patti] Yes, 898 00:38:40,655 --> 00:38:42,157 And, and, again, 899 00:38:42,199 --> 00:38:44,201 humans are humans, 900 00:38:44,242 --> 00:38:46,745 if you can go someplace 901 00:38:46,787 --> 00:38:49,748 And they're hanging 902 00:38:49,790 --> 00:38:51,708 [Ovilus] Jenny. 903 00:38:51,750 --> 00:38:53,210 Jenny? 904 00:38:53,251 --> 00:38:55,670 Do they, 905 00:38:55,712 --> 00:38:57,005 -Yes. 906 00:38:57,047 --> 00:39:01,134 [music] 907 00:39:01,176 --> 00:39:02,636 [Jennifer] Working with Patti 908 00:39:02,677 --> 00:39:04,846 I did keep hearing 909 00:39:04,888 --> 00:39:06,556 were very clear words 910 00:39:06,598 --> 00:39:09,434 There was some counting, there 911 00:39:09,476 --> 00:39:10,894 So, although I cannot 912 00:39:10,936 --> 00:39:12,354 prove any of these things, 913 00:39:12,396 --> 00:39:14,648 it was interesting 914 00:39:14,689 --> 00:39:16,691 I can't wait 915 00:39:16,733 --> 00:39:19,069 and see what we can put together 916 00:39:19,111 --> 00:39:22,072 [music] 917 00:39:22,114 --> 00:39:24,991 [Jennifer] I think we both agree 918 00:39:25,033 --> 00:39:26,993 -and macabre place. 919 00:39:27,035 --> 00:39:28,829 And I think that's 920 00:39:28,870 --> 00:39:31,498 'cause you floated the idea 921 00:39:31,540 --> 00:39:34,960 "Could this place possibly be 922 00:39:35,001 --> 00:39:36,378 for dark energy?" 923 00:39:36,420 --> 00:39:38,505 -Right? 924 00:39:38,547 --> 00:39:41,049 And first, I think it's 925 00:39:41,091 --> 00:39:44,428 that Elisa Lam's death was not 926 00:39:44,469 --> 00:39:46,012 to foul play. 927 00:39:46,054 --> 00:39:47,973 We've seen how an imbalance 928 00:39:48,014 --> 00:39:50,016 triggered a psychotic episode. 929 00:39:50,058 --> 00:39:52,686 And sadly, she likely climbed up 930 00:39:52,727 --> 00:39:54,980 and got into that tank 931 00:39:55,021 --> 00:39:56,690 Once inside, 932 00:39:56,731 --> 00:40:00,068 and she died of hypothermia. 933 00:40:00,110 --> 00:40:02,070 [Ozzy] Even if you 934 00:40:02,112 --> 00:40:04,614 why did she go up there? 935 00:40:04,656 --> 00:40:07,284 I mean, who goes up 936 00:40:07,325 --> 00:40:08,910 and just gets into 937 00:40:08,952 --> 00:40:10,704 I mean, it just doesn't 938 00:40:10,745 --> 00:40:12,330 [Jennifer] Her behavior 939 00:40:12,372 --> 00:40:13,874 being off her meds. 940 00:40:13,915 --> 00:40:15,834 She's in the elevator, 941 00:40:15,876 --> 00:40:17,419 she's trying to get away. 942 00:40:17,461 --> 00:40:19,671 So, why wouldn't she 943 00:40:19,713 --> 00:40:22,007 If she goes up on the roof, 944 00:40:22,048 --> 00:40:23,758 something or someone 945 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,886 it makes perfect sense that she 946 00:40:25,927 --> 00:40:27,679 Because for her 947 00:40:27,721 --> 00:40:29,139 that is a hiding place. 948 00:40:29,181 --> 00:40:31,683 That is a safe place. 949 00:40:31,725 --> 00:40:33,393 [Ozzy] I totally get 950 00:40:33,435 --> 00:40:36,354 But the hotel has 951 00:40:36,396 --> 00:40:38,773 There's been multiple suicides. 952 00:40:38,815 --> 00:40:40,901 I mean, we just can't 953 00:40:40,942 --> 00:40:44,237 Serial killers have even 954 00:40:44,279 --> 00:40:47,449 I just can't write off that the 955 00:40:47,491 --> 00:40:49,534 But I see its history 956 00:40:49,576 --> 00:40:51,620 the disintegrating neighborhood 957 00:40:51,661 --> 00:40:53,497 It was one of the least 958 00:40:53,538 --> 00:40:56,583 to stay downtown, so it did 959 00:40:56,625 --> 00:40:58,335 who were either 960 00:40:58,376 --> 00:41:01,046 desperate, or trying to 961 00:41:01,087 --> 00:41:03,006 It was a magnet 962 00:41:03,048 --> 00:41:05,467 because Skid Row was 963 00:41:05,509 --> 00:41:07,219 Richard Ramirez was 964 00:41:07,260 --> 00:41:09,095 before he checked into 965 00:41:09,137 --> 00:41:11,431 It wasn't the hotel 966 00:41:11,473 --> 00:41:14,726 But the hotel certainly helped 967 00:41:14,768 --> 00:41:16,978 Something you wanna say? 968 00:41:17,020 --> 00:41:19,022 [Jennifer] And Patti, 969 00:41:19,064 --> 00:41:20,857 and felt the heavy energy... 970 00:41:20,899 --> 00:41:22,984 But while interesting, 971 00:41:23,026 --> 00:41:25,403 the evidence I'm 972 00:41:25,445 --> 00:41:27,572 I am not doubting that 973 00:41:27,614 --> 00:41:29,241 or experienced something. 974 00:41:29,282 --> 00:41:32,452 But the neighborhood's unsafe, 975 00:41:32,494 --> 00:41:34,746 I'm not gonna go out 976 00:41:34,788 --> 00:41:36,331 it was some sort of 977 00:41:36,373 --> 00:41:38,375 or that it's some sort 978 00:41:38,416 --> 00:41:41,461 Think about it. The Cecil was 979 00:41:41,503 --> 00:41:43,338 to do something 980 00:41:43,380 --> 00:41:44,839 do something to others, 981 00:41:44,881 --> 00:41:47,092 and for the most part, 982 00:41:47,133 --> 00:41:49,302 And sometimes, 983 00:41:49,344 --> 00:41:51,846 some innocent people 984 00:41:51,888 --> 00:41:57,769 [music] 985 00:42:00,939 --> 00:42:06,903 [music]