1 00:00:03,382 --> 00:00:06,635 [Jennifer] March 13, 1997. 2 00:00:06,677 --> 00:00:09,221 [Mike] Hey, Sue! 3 00:00:09,263 --> 00:00:09,972 [Sue] Oh my god! 4 00:00:09,972 --> 00:00:13,267 [Jennifer] A strange 5 00:00:13,309 --> 00:00:16,854 lights up the night sky 6 00:00:16,896 --> 00:00:20,566 [Man] I've got four of them. 7 00:00:20,608 --> 00:00:22,943 [Jennifer] Many observers 8 00:00:22,985 --> 00:00:25,404 that's more than a mile long. 9 00:00:25,446 --> 00:00:28,449 These looked different than 10 00:00:28,491 --> 00:00:29,241 [Jennifer] More 11 00:00:29,283 --> 00:00:33,954 it remains the largest mass 12 00:00:33,996 --> 00:00:37,583 with over 10,000 reported 13 00:00:37,625 --> 00:00:39,960 There was an 14 00:00:40,002 --> 00:00:42,880 [Jennifer] Now new 15 00:00:42,922 --> 00:00:47,551 over central Arizona 16 00:00:47,593 --> 00:00:51,680 Have America's most 17 00:00:51,722 --> 00:00:55,309 Technology that's not 18 00:00:55,351 --> 00:00:57,436 [Jennifer] Are these 19 00:00:57,478 --> 00:00:59,980 We're on a need-to-know basis 20 00:01:00,022 --> 00:01:01,565 So we're talking aliens. 21 00:01:01,607 --> 00:01:03,859 We're talking ET's. 22 00:01:03,901 --> 00:01:05,611 [Jennifer] My name's 23 00:01:05,653 --> 00:01:07,238 After serving in the US Navy, 24 00:01:07,279 --> 00:01:09,949 I began a career as a 25 00:01:09,990 --> 00:01:13,661 Now I'm on the trail of 26 00:01:13,702 --> 00:01:16,747 decoding the mystery 27 00:01:16,789 --> 00:01:24,421 [music] 28 00:01:26,757 --> 00:01:28,425 [Jennifer] Sightings 29 00:01:28,466 --> 00:01:31,971 are being reported somewhere 30 00:01:32,012 --> 00:01:33,555 Over the last two years, 31 00:01:33,597 --> 00:01:37,518 the number of sightings 32 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,311 [Man] Wow! 33 00:01:39,353 --> 00:01:41,689 [Man] Look at it fly! 34 00:01:41,730 --> 00:01:43,482 [Jennifer] These reports put 35 00:01:43,524 --> 00:01:47,528 one of the most mysterious UFO 36 00:01:47,570 --> 00:01:49,738 [Man] Isn't that weird? 37 00:01:49,780 --> 00:01:51,906 [Jennifer] The Air Force 38 00:01:51,948 --> 00:01:53,617 were aerial flares. 39 00:01:53,659 --> 00:01:57,287 But literally thousands of 40 00:01:57,329 --> 00:02:01,208 an illuminated 41 00:02:01,250 --> 00:02:03,878 I was contacted by UFO 42 00:02:03,919 --> 00:02:07,381 who says that there's new 43 00:02:07,423 --> 00:02:11,927 that the lights being seen over 44 00:02:11,969 --> 00:02:13,637 Ryan and I previously 45 00:02:13,679 --> 00:02:17,600 an alleged UFO that crashed 46 00:02:17,641 --> 00:02:20,853 and claims of alien 47 00:02:22,271 --> 00:02:24,565 Jen! 48 00:02:24,607 --> 00:02:26,233 -How are you? 49 00:02:26,274 --> 00:02:27,943 -Nice to see you. 50 00:02:27,985 --> 00:02:29,236 It's picturesque. 51 00:02:29,278 --> 00:02:29,904 -Isn't it? 52 00:02:29,945 --> 00:02:33,574 I was 12 years old when 53 00:02:33,616 --> 00:02:36,535 and I was so afraid to 54 00:02:36,577 --> 00:02:38,579 for fear of ridicule. 55 00:02:38,621 --> 00:02:41,624 That's what happens 56 00:02:41,665 --> 00:02:44,919 But that's what makes the 57 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,255 So many people have come 58 00:02:48,297 --> 00:02:50,466 This is the area 59 00:02:50,507 --> 00:02:53,302 One of the biggest 60 00:02:53,344 --> 00:02:55,346 of all time. 61 00:02:55,387 --> 00:02:58,432 Imagine looking up at the 62 00:02:58,474 --> 00:03:00,392 when your view of 63 00:03:00,434 --> 00:03:03,187 by a mile-wide spaceship 64 00:03:03,229 --> 00:03:04,521 over the city. 65 00:03:04,563 --> 00:03:06,440 This is what thousands 66 00:03:06,482 --> 00:03:11,237 reported to the authorities 67 00:03:11,278 --> 00:03:13,239 [Jennifer] I mean, 68 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:14,865 [Ryan] What's even crazier is 69 00:03:14,907 --> 00:03:16,659 it might be happening again. 70 00:03:16,700 --> 00:03:18,744 There's been a couple of 71 00:03:18,786 --> 00:03:21,247 And there's video 72 00:03:21,288 --> 00:03:23,791 Take a look at these. 73 00:03:23,832 --> 00:03:25,793 [Jennifer] Okay. 74 00:03:25,834 --> 00:03:28,921 [Ryan] You're seeing 75 00:03:28,963 --> 00:03:33,217 This is identical to 76 00:03:33,259 --> 00:03:36,345 At first glance, they might 77 00:03:36,387 --> 00:03:38,847 But a closer look shows 78 00:03:38,889 --> 00:03:43,226 are too high above 79 00:03:43,269 --> 00:03:45,980 So this one, separate location. 80 00:03:46,021 --> 00:03:49,942 This recent video shows 81 00:03:49,984 --> 00:03:51,902 [Jennifer] So how do these 82 00:03:51,944 --> 00:03:53,946 in 1997? 83 00:03:53,988 --> 00:03:56,657 [Ryan] First, you got this 84 00:03:56,699 --> 00:03:59,952 which drifted toward Tucson. 85 00:03:59,994 --> 00:04:01,787 And then you've 86 00:04:01,829 --> 00:04:05,332 which just hovered high in 87 00:04:05,374 --> 00:04:06,792 I've got a guy meeting us here 88 00:04:06,834 --> 00:04:09,503 who actually saw the 89 00:04:09,545 --> 00:04:12,423 and he told me it 90 00:04:12,464 --> 00:04:14,800 -Okay, I'd like to talk to him. 91 00:04:14,842 --> 00:04:20,514 [music] 92 00:04:20,556 --> 00:04:22,266 [Ryan] Jason McClellan 93 00:04:22,308 --> 00:04:23,892 when he saw the lights. 94 00:04:23,934 --> 00:04:25,936 -Hi, there. I'm Jennifer. 95 00:04:25,978 --> 00:04:27,146 Hi. 96 00:04:27,187 --> 00:04:30,149 I grew up in Phoenix's 97 00:04:30,190 --> 00:04:36,030 where I was used to seeing test 98 00:04:36,071 --> 00:04:38,073 But that night, I remember 99 00:04:38,115 --> 00:04:40,701 and seeing this unusual 100 00:04:40,743 --> 00:04:42,369 So I went outside, looked up, 101 00:04:42,411 --> 00:04:44,246 and pretty much 102 00:04:44,288 --> 00:04:48,208 I saw somewhere between 103 00:04:48,250 --> 00:04:51,211 sort of in an arc pattern, 104 00:04:51,253 --> 00:04:52,880 just hovering in the sky. 105 00:04:52,921 --> 00:04:53,672 Completely motionless, 106 00:04:53,672 --> 00:04:58,218 not changing their sizes, their 107 00:04:58,260 --> 00:04:59,928 Now, what did you 108 00:04:59,970 --> 00:05:02,181 Because you had never seen 109 00:05:02,222 --> 00:05:04,683 To this day, haven't seen 110 00:05:04,725 --> 00:05:06,310 I saw flares dropped 111 00:05:06,352 --> 00:05:08,937 What I saw that night 112 00:05:08,979 --> 00:05:10,939 What are we talking 113 00:05:10,981 --> 00:05:13,150 You know, it seemed 114 00:05:13,192 --> 00:05:16,987 Um, it took up 115 00:05:17,029 --> 00:05:18,781 Did you think that 116 00:05:18,822 --> 00:05:20,741 one craft or one entity, 117 00:05:20,783 --> 00:05:23,327 or did you feel like they 118 00:05:23,369 --> 00:05:25,704 [Jason] I couldn't tell if 119 00:05:25,746 --> 00:05:28,207 if they were a solid craft. 120 00:05:28,248 --> 00:05:30,709 [Jennifer] Based on laser 121 00:05:30,751 --> 00:05:34,338 investigators found the craft 122 00:05:34,380 --> 00:05:40,219 That's the same size as 21 747 123 00:05:40,260 --> 00:05:45,057 People who saw this thing claim 124 00:05:45,099 --> 00:05:47,768 And I know it affected a lot 125 00:05:47,810 --> 00:05:49,228 It's still one of the 126 00:05:49,269 --> 00:05:51,271 that I've experienced 127 00:05:51,313 --> 00:05:54,066 [Jennifer] I find Jason to be 128 00:05:54,108 --> 00:05:56,735 He doesn't really say 129 00:05:56,777 --> 00:05:58,779 He's upfront that 130 00:06:02,950 --> 00:06:05,911 Dr. Lynne Kitei has been 131 00:06:05,953 --> 00:06:07,579 for 25 years. 132 00:06:07,621 --> 00:06:11,583 And she has new video footage 133 00:06:11,625 --> 00:06:14,253 I really wanna talk about 134 00:06:14,294 --> 00:06:15,838 What do you know about those? 135 00:06:15,879 --> 00:06:20,801 These orbs appeared again 136 00:06:20,843 --> 00:06:22,219 and I got video of that. 137 00:06:24,721 --> 00:06:27,850 We live high on a mountain 138 00:06:27,891 --> 00:06:29,768 This was up close and personal. 139 00:06:29,810 --> 00:06:31,895 Right outside our 140 00:06:31,937 --> 00:06:33,814 It was so otherworldly. 141 00:06:33,856 --> 00:06:35,190 Now, was it light 142 00:06:35,232 --> 00:06:37,943 if they were connected 143 00:06:37,985 --> 00:06:40,112 No, it was pitch black 144 00:06:40,154 --> 00:06:41,947 and they were 145 00:06:41,989 --> 00:06:45,033 So whether it was part of 146 00:06:45,075 --> 00:06:47,870 What sort of noise did you 147 00:06:47,911 --> 00:06:50,705 Absolutely silent. 148 00:06:50,747 --> 00:06:53,083 That was a little 149 00:06:53,125 --> 00:06:56,211 Reportedly there is a guy 150 00:06:56,253 --> 00:06:59,381 that he was maybe 50 feet away. 151 00:06:59,423 --> 00:07:01,091 Or does this person 152 00:07:01,133 --> 00:07:01,633 Not an urban legend. 153 00:07:01,675 --> 00:07:05,762 A pilot who came 154 00:07:05,804 --> 00:07:08,265 has a great, 155 00:07:08,307 --> 00:07:11,101 And he just came forward 156 00:07:11,143 --> 00:07:12,895 after 22 years. 157 00:07:12,936 --> 00:07:14,730 -We'd love to meet with him. 158 00:07:16,356 --> 00:07:17,816 [Jennifer] This 159 00:07:17,858 --> 00:07:20,152 is about as 160 00:07:20,194 --> 00:07:23,322 He's also flown commercially 161 00:07:23,363 --> 00:07:26,825 clocking more than 50 162 00:07:26,867 --> 00:07:30,996 So it's understandable why he 163 00:07:31,038 --> 00:07:33,123 [Pilot] Yeah, that evening, 164 00:07:33,165 --> 00:07:36,752 It was about 8:30 in the evening 165 00:07:36,793 --> 00:07:39,671 It was very dark, probably 166 00:07:39,713 --> 00:07:42,966 And then suddenly she says, 167 00:07:43,008 --> 00:07:45,636 And I lean forward 168 00:07:45,677 --> 00:07:48,180 and there are five lights 169 00:07:48,222 --> 00:07:49,932 I thought immediately, 170 00:07:49,973 --> 00:07:52,184 "Aw, it's just a 171 00:07:52,226 --> 00:07:54,102 I was thinking, well, 172 00:07:54,144 --> 00:07:55,729 in a V-shape formation. 173 00:07:55,771 --> 00:07:58,690 That's not the way you would 174 00:07:58,732 --> 00:08:00,692 That's a show formation. 175 00:08:00,734 --> 00:08:03,195 And then I notice 176 00:08:03,237 --> 00:08:06,657 no strobe lights, 177 00:08:06,698 --> 00:08:09,743 And so I asked my wife 178 00:08:09,785 --> 00:08:11,828 I just got out of the car. 179 00:08:11,870 --> 00:08:14,706 And then as it passed 180 00:08:14,748 --> 00:08:20,503 I realized I was not 181 00:08:20,546 --> 00:08:22,506 Is it possible, in your mind, 182 00:08:22,548 --> 00:08:25,634 some sort of military prototype? 183 00:08:25,676 --> 00:08:28,971 [Pilot] It doesn't make sense 184 00:08:29,012 --> 00:08:33,432 I mean, why would the military 185 00:08:33,475 --> 00:08:37,563 radar-stealthy craft, 186 00:08:37,604 --> 00:08:39,439 and fly it over a 187 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,483 to prove that it can be seen? 188 00:08:41,525 --> 00:08:45,195 I'm trying to explain it 189 00:08:45,237 --> 00:08:46,655 I'm not used to 190 00:08:46,697 --> 00:08:48,365 and not knowing what I'm seeing. 191 00:08:48,407 --> 00:08:50,617 [Jennifer] Do you believe 192 00:08:50,659 --> 00:08:52,077 extraterrestrial in nature, 193 00:08:52,119 --> 00:08:54,454 given that we don't 194 00:08:54,496 --> 00:08:58,166 [music] 195 00:09:02,254 --> 00:09:04,214 [music] 196 00:09:06,341 --> 00:09:09,011 [Jennifer] The largest mass 197 00:09:09,052 --> 00:09:11,179 occurred back in 1997, 198 00:09:11,221 --> 00:09:15,017 and some say those lights 199 00:09:15,058 --> 00:09:18,353 Can new evidence help 200 00:09:18,395 --> 00:09:22,024 really visited the city 201 00:09:22,065 --> 00:09:24,026 Our investigation 202 00:09:24,067 --> 00:09:26,320 who witnessed the 203 00:09:26,361 --> 00:09:29,656 He's agreed to share 204 00:09:29,698 --> 00:09:32,117 Do you believe that 205 00:09:32,159 --> 00:09:33,368 extraterrestrial in nature, 206 00:09:33,410 --> 00:09:37,164 given that we don't 207 00:09:37,205 --> 00:09:40,334 [Pilot] Well, that's a question 208 00:09:40,375 --> 00:09:44,254 You won't get me to 209 00:09:44,296 --> 00:09:47,174 because it's an 210 00:09:47,215 --> 00:09:52,387 that seems to bring skeptics 211 00:09:52,429 --> 00:09:54,640 to question the veracity 212 00:09:54,681 --> 00:09:57,059 But you have decided to 213 00:09:57,100 --> 00:09:59,186 What is the reason for that? 214 00:09:59,227 --> 00:10:04,107 [Pilot] There is some stigma 215 00:10:04,149 --> 00:10:08,028 even if you make a credible 216 00:10:08,070 --> 00:10:11,365 I've always had fairly sensitive 217 00:10:11,406 --> 00:10:14,201 I just wanna keep 218 00:10:14,242 --> 00:10:16,161 Maybe someday I'll get 219 00:10:16,203 --> 00:10:18,246 and then you can take 220 00:10:18,288 --> 00:10:18,997 [chuckles] 221 00:10:19,039 --> 00:10:21,208 [Jennifer] I'm definitely 222 00:10:21,249 --> 00:10:23,210 that 20 years 223 00:10:23,251 --> 00:10:27,172 this experienced pilot still 224 00:10:27,214 --> 00:10:29,132 for the lights 225 00:10:31,093 --> 00:10:33,929 Some of the most widely viewed 226 00:10:33,970 --> 00:10:36,181 were captured by 227 00:10:36,223 --> 00:10:37,974 He's invited us to 228 00:10:38,016 --> 00:10:39,559 on the north end of the city. 229 00:10:43,271 --> 00:10:43,980 -[Jennifer] Mike! 230 00:10:43,980 --> 00:10:46,525 [Jennifer] Beautiful up here. 231 00:10:46,566 --> 00:10:48,235 [Ryan] Yeah! 232 00:10:48,276 --> 00:10:52,656 [music] 233 00:10:52,698 --> 00:10:56,660 [Jennifer] Wow, you 234 00:10:56,702 --> 00:10:59,246 This must be the direction 235 00:11:02,416 --> 00:11:03,583 Look at how the 236 00:11:03,625 --> 00:11:05,085 in relation to the city lights. 237 00:11:05,127 --> 00:11:09,256 Take a look at this! 238 00:11:09,297 --> 00:11:11,258 Hey, Sue? 239 00:11:11,675 --> 00:11:14,094 All right, you 240 00:11:15,971 --> 00:11:17,305 Hey, Sue! 241 00:11:19,641 --> 00:11:21,560 [Sue] Oh my god! 242 00:11:22,728 --> 00:11:27,023 [music] 243 00:11:27,065 --> 00:11:30,944 [Mike] It's the south mountain. 244 00:11:30,986 --> 00:11:33,071 [Sue] Well, that is a totally 245 00:11:33,113 --> 00:11:36,158 than we've ever seen before. 246 00:11:36,199 --> 00:11:38,326 [Mike] And they all went 247 00:11:38,368 --> 00:11:40,162 -They're going off now, right? 248 00:11:40,203 --> 00:11:42,956 [Mike] One dropped. 249 00:11:42,998 --> 00:11:45,250 Two out--there's another one. 250 00:11:45,292 --> 00:11:46,376 Various nights I've seen 251 00:11:46,418 --> 00:11:48,253 orange lights out in the 252 00:11:48,295 --> 00:11:50,046 But they were far, far away. 253 00:11:50,088 --> 00:11:53,133 I've never seen any 254 00:11:53,175 --> 00:11:55,051 Were you already out there 255 00:11:55,093 --> 00:11:56,511 Or you saw something 256 00:11:56,553 --> 00:11:58,346 [Mike] No, I came 257 00:11:58,388 --> 00:12:00,724 before we go to the bed. 258 00:12:00,766 --> 00:12:02,559 that's when I saw 259 00:12:02,601 --> 00:12:06,062 And that was farther to the east 260 00:12:06,104 --> 00:12:08,607 And they looked so close, 261 00:12:08,648 --> 00:12:10,233 I actually thought 262 00:12:10,275 --> 00:12:12,360 they were on this 263 00:12:12,402 --> 00:12:14,321 Now, there is a range on the 264 00:12:14,362 --> 00:12:15,906 a bombing test range 265 00:12:15,947 --> 00:12:16,782 There is. 266 00:12:16,782 --> 00:12:20,327 [Jennifer] Luke Air Force Base 267 00:12:20,368 --> 00:12:22,996 about 15 miles west of Phoenix. 268 00:12:23,038 --> 00:12:24,915 And from my military experience, 269 00:12:24,956 --> 00:12:27,042 I can tell you that 270 00:12:27,083 --> 00:12:28,668 around bases and airfields. 271 00:12:28,710 --> 00:12:31,463 And they're often used 272 00:12:31,505 --> 00:12:33,006 Flares can be 273 00:12:33,048 --> 00:12:35,008 to illuminate a battlefield. 274 00:12:35,050 --> 00:12:36,676 There is a theory 275 00:12:36,718 --> 00:12:39,304 was dropping flares in 276 00:12:39,346 --> 00:12:42,974 I've seen flares before, 277 00:12:43,016 --> 00:12:45,101 These looked like something 278 00:12:45,143 --> 00:12:46,978 than anything 279 00:12:47,020 --> 00:12:49,272 That night, I did call 280 00:12:49,314 --> 00:12:51,399 And they denied seeing anything. 281 00:12:51,441 --> 00:12:54,236 When they drop flares, 282 00:12:54,277 --> 00:12:56,613 And, uh, they would 283 00:12:56,655 --> 00:12:58,615 as far as their drop rate. 284 00:12:58,657 --> 00:13:00,200 And the wind would 285 00:13:00,242 --> 00:13:02,035 This was quite different 286 00:13:02,077 --> 00:13:05,497 how it held its position 287 00:13:05,539 --> 00:13:08,041 Here's the thing, the way I 288 00:13:08,083 --> 00:13:09,584 It's possible, okay? 289 00:13:09,626 --> 00:13:11,503 We don't have 290 00:13:11,545 --> 00:13:13,964 One thing, everybody 291 00:13:14,005 --> 00:13:16,049 Even if it didn't have an engine 292 00:13:16,091 --> 00:13:17,509 you'd hear rushing air. 293 00:13:17,551 --> 00:13:19,052 Do you still have 294 00:13:19,094 --> 00:13:19,845 I do. 295 00:13:19,886 --> 00:13:22,556 [Jennifer] Would you be able to 296 00:13:22,597 --> 00:13:24,641 [Mike] I can, and 297 00:13:24,683 --> 00:13:26,142 I'm hoping we can 298 00:13:26,184 --> 00:13:26,768 in front of a forensic expert 299 00:13:26,810 --> 00:13:29,187 to determine if there 300 00:13:29,229 --> 00:13:31,022 or hidden information. 301 00:13:31,064 --> 00:13:37,279 [music] 302 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,281 [Jennifer] We now 303 00:13:39,322 --> 00:13:42,117 thousands of Phoenix 304 00:13:42,158 --> 00:13:45,161 to get answers about the 305 00:13:45,203 --> 00:13:48,582 To address their concerns, 306 00:13:48,623 --> 00:13:50,166 held a press conference, 307 00:13:50,208 --> 00:13:52,168 where he tried to 308 00:13:52,210 --> 00:13:54,421 by making it into a joke. 309 00:13:54,461 --> 00:13:57,173 Now I'll ask Officer Stein 310 00:13:57,215 --> 00:13:58,717 to escort the 311 00:13:58,758 --> 00:14:02,304 so that we may all 312 00:14:02,345 --> 00:14:04,931 This just goes to show that you 313 00:14:04,973 --> 00:14:06,892 [audience laughter] 314 00:14:06,933 --> 00:14:09,060 [applause] 315 00:14:12,314 --> 00:14:15,233 [audience laughter] 316 00:14:15,275 --> 00:14:18,236 [Jennifer] His chief of staff 317 00:14:18,278 --> 00:14:20,030 then escorted out in handcuffs 318 00:14:20,071 --> 00:14:23,325 and named as the guilty party 319 00:14:23,366 --> 00:14:26,328 Ten years later, he admitted 320 00:14:26,369 --> 00:14:29,080 of unknown origin 321 00:14:29,122 --> 00:14:31,374 "enormous and inexplicable," 322 00:14:31,416 --> 00:14:33,418 becoming one of the 323 00:14:33,460 --> 00:14:36,086 to report a UFO sighting. 324 00:14:36,129 --> 00:14:38,256 This validated the stories 325 00:14:38,298 --> 00:14:41,259 were apprehensive to 326 00:14:41,301 --> 00:14:43,303 for fear of ridicule. 327 00:14:43,345 --> 00:14:54,439 [music] 328 00:14:54,481 --> 00:14:57,108 [Ryan] It's been hard for 329 00:14:57,150 --> 00:14:59,611 if what they were seeing 330 00:14:59,653 --> 00:15:02,113 or a part of a larger craft. 331 00:15:02,155 --> 00:15:03,698 But not for David Parker, 332 00:15:03,740 --> 00:15:06,076 because it was 333 00:15:06,117 --> 00:15:08,328 This is right about 334 00:15:08,370 --> 00:15:09,746 The freeway was 335 00:15:09,788 --> 00:15:12,290 It was almost like a 336 00:15:12,332 --> 00:15:14,417 Can you tell us what 337 00:15:14,459 --> 00:15:19,130 So as I was driving back, 338 00:15:19,172 --> 00:15:21,758 there was next to 339 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,803 And when I got off the 340 00:15:24,844 --> 00:15:28,640 there was this massive 341 00:15:28,682 --> 00:15:31,476 coming towards me very slow. 342 00:15:31,518 --> 00:15:34,562 [music] 343 00:15:38,733 --> 00:15:40,902 [music] 344 00:15:42,404 --> 00:15:43,822 [Jennifer] Strange 345 00:15:43,863 --> 00:15:47,575 the city of Phoenix in 1997, 346 00:15:47,617 --> 00:15:50,578 and leaving an indelible 347 00:15:50,620 --> 00:15:53,206 Skeptics say the V-shaped 348 00:15:53,248 --> 00:15:55,125 were caused by flares. 349 00:15:55,166 --> 00:15:57,419 But those who directly 350 00:15:57,460 --> 00:16:00,380 refute all earthly explanations. 351 00:16:00,422 --> 00:16:03,049 [David] When I got off the 352 00:16:03,091 --> 00:16:07,137 there was this massive 353 00:16:07,178 --> 00:16:10,765 coming towards me 354 00:16:10,807 --> 00:16:13,059 Had multiple lights 355 00:16:13,101 --> 00:16:16,021 I slammed on my brakes. 356 00:16:16,062 --> 00:16:20,817 As it came, it just gently 357 00:16:22,861 --> 00:16:26,197 I could see the entire 358 00:16:26,239 --> 00:16:30,618 It was like a gunmetal gray, 359 00:16:30,660 --> 00:16:32,120 and it was covered 360 00:16:32,162 --> 00:16:35,123 of what looked like 361 00:16:35,165 --> 00:16:37,375 all over the bottom side of it. 362 00:16:37,417 --> 00:16:40,170 Now the size, Dave. 363 00:16:40,211 --> 00:16:42,213 [David] I'm gonna say 364 00:16:42,255 --> 00:16:45,175 of this boomerang-shaped craft, 365 00:16:45,216 --> 00:16:48,219 probably a mile to 366 00:16:48,261 --> 00:16:49,763 I could see that 367 00:16:49,804 --> 00:16:51,389 out of the bottom of it. 368 00:16:51,431 --> 00:16:53,433 Do you remember how 369 00:16:53,475 --> 00:16:56,352 It--probably five 370 00:16:56,394 --> 00:16:59,355 The craft itself, 371 00:16:59,397 --> 00:17:01,232 similar to anything 372 00:17:01,274 --> 00:17:03,276 I have never seen 373 00:17:03,318 --> 00:17:07,238 And first of all, with the 374 00:17:07,279 --> 00:17:11,701 and how it just drifted by, 375 00:17:11,742 --> 00:17:14,537 it didn't make any wind, 376 00:17:14,578 --> 00:17:16,789 it didn't make any sound. 377 00:17:16,831 --> 00:17:19,500 Now, what made you look 378 00:17:19,542 --> 00:17:21,878 Did you sense something? 379 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,881 I think it was 380 00:17:24,923 --> 00:17:27,133 and seeing it slightly move. 381 00:17:27,174 --> 00:17:30,553 It was like this 382 00:17:30,595 --> 00:17:32,680 Now, did you tell anyone 383 00:17:32,722 --> 00:17:34,766 or report it to anywhere? 384 00:17:34,808 --> 00:17:36,101 [David] The next day, 385 00:17:36,142 --> 00:17:38,186 that's all I could 386 00:17:38,228 --> 00:17:40,730 is I saw it, I saw it, 387 00:17:40,772 --> 00:17:43,066 Later, of course, our 388 00:17:43,108 --> 00:17:47,570 and ridiculed anybody 389 00:17:47,612 --> 00:17:50,073 So I just kind of--just shut up. 390 00:17:50,115 --> 00:17:51,783 Do you think it's a possibility 391 00:17:51,825 --> 00:17:53,618 it could be a 392 00:17:53,660 --> 00:17:55,036 No, it was-- 393 00:17:55,078 --> 00:17:57,872 It's just the massive size. 394 00:17:57,914 --> 00:18:00,667 If it was tinier and smaller, 395 00:18:00,708 --> 00:18:02,877 I could probably wrap 396 00:18:02,919 --> 00:18:06,589 But truly it took up 397 00:18:06,631 --> 00:18:08,758 I have to ask, 398 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,511 that you were just dreaming? 399 00:18:11,553 --> 00:18:13,096 I had just gotten off work. 400 00:18:13,138 --> 00:18:15,431 I was driving my truck. 401 00:18:15,473 --> 00:18:17,809 It was way too early 402 00:18:17,851 --> 00:18:19,435 I don't drink. 403 00:18:19,477 --> 00:18:21,688 No, I was wide awake. 404 00:18:21,729 --> 00:18:23,940 No substances 405 00:18:23,982 --> 00:18:26,568 -[David] I am a nurse. 406 00:18:26,609 --> 00:18:29,654 Well, I just wanna thank you for 407 00:18:29,696 --> 00:18:30,947 Thanks so much for 408 00:18:30,989 --> 00:18:33,449 -Thank you very much. 409 00:18:33,491 --> 00:18:36,119 He gave us such 410 00:18:36,161 --> 00:18:38,496 He saw that craft close up. 411 00:18:38,538 --> 00:18:40,498 So for me, there really 412 00:18:40,540 --> 00:18:44,419 other than what he saw is 413 00:18:44,460 --> 00:18:46,504 But if you go back to our 414 00:18:46,546 --> 00:18:48,965 it seems like this technology 415 00:18:49,007 --> 00:18:51,467 -again and again. 416 00:18:51,509 --> 00:18:57,765 [music] 417 00:18:57,807 --> 00:18:59,809 I think it's important to note 418 00:18:59,851 --> 00:19:02,145 two events that are 419 00:19:02,187 --> 00:19:04,147 on March 13, 1997. 420 00:19:04,189 --> 00:19:06,524 Right, we've got 421 00:19:06,566 --> 00:19:08,943 which is what caused 422 00:19:08,985 --> 00:19:10,778 And then we've got 423 00:19:10,820 --> 00:19:12,822 that Mike Christian filmed. 424 00:19:14,991 --> 00:19:16,492 [Jennifer] I'm 425 00:19:16,534 --> 00:19:18,369 that these lights 426 00:19:18,411 --> 00:19:19,662 so I'm bringing 427 00:19:19,704 --> 00:19:21,539 to talk me through the video. 428 00:19:21,581 --> 00:19:23,082 Brian Mahoney 429 00:19:23,124 --> 00:19:26,711 who flew helicopters 430 00:19:26,753 --> 00:19:29,589 and became obsessed with the 431 00:19:29,631 --> 00:19:31,966 I'm excited for someone with 432 00:19:32,008 --> 00:19:33,718 to take a look at this footage. 433 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:35,762 Brian, thank you so 434 00:19:35,803 --> 00:19:37,764 I have some footage that 435 00:19:37,805 --> 00:19:40,141 Well, I'd love to see it, Jen. 436 00:19:40,183 --> 00:19:43,853 [Jennifer] The first one 437 00:19:43,895 --> 00:19:45,939 This video is of 438 00:19:45,980 --> 00:19:48,107 And at this time, there were 439 00:19:48,149 --> 00:19:50,610 they were calling 911, they 440 00:19:50,652 --> 00:19:54,155 The 10 o'clock event, 441 00:19:54,197 --> 00:19:55,949 from different angles, 442 00:19:55,990 --> 00:19:57,951 But this is the sole 443 00:19:57,992 --> 00:19:59,869 from the 8 o'clock event. 444 00:19:59,911 --> 00:20:01,579 [Brian] Okay. 445 00:20:01,621 --> 00:20:04,082 I-I don't see how anyone 446 00:20:04,123 --> 00:20:08,962 could confuse this particular 447 00:20:09,003 --> 00:20:12,090 Flares are asymmetrical. 448 00:20:12,131 --> 00:20:13,925 So as the wind 449 00:20:13,967 --> 00:20:16,511 one will go a little bit 450 00:20:16,552 --> 00:20:18,513 They're just not 451 00:20:18,554 --> 00:20:20,056 in any kind of a line. 452 00:20:20,098 --> 00:20:21,516 Right there from 453 00:20:21,557 --> 00:20:23,518 they appear to be symmetrical. 454 00:20:23,559 --> 00:20:24,811 What else you got here? 455 00:20:24,852 --> 00:20:26,688 10 o'clock, we have more footage 456 00:20:26,729 --> 00:20:29,023 because there were 457 00:20:29,065 --> 00:20:31,776 [Brian] Right now, I'm not 458 00:20:31,818 --> 00:20:33,653 that all these witnesses 459 00:20:33,695 --> 00:20:35,738 so this could be the flares. 460 00:20:35,780 --> 00:20:37,907 The flare would 461 00:20:37,949 --> 00:20:40,243 okay, there goes one. 462 00:20:40,285 --> 00:20:42,620 Let me see another 463 00:20:42,662 --> 00:20:44,080 There goes another one. 464 00:20:44,122 --> 00:20:45,915 Okay, yeah, this 465 00:20:45,957 --> 00:20:49,002 even though it's 466 00:20:49,043 --> 00:20:50,086 [Jennifer] Now 467 00:20:50,128 --> 00:20:52,547 and this one was taken in 2019. 468 00:20:52,588 --> 00:20:57,093 And I wanna get your thoughts on 469 00:20:57,135 --> 00:20:58,928 Oh, that's cool. 470 00:20:58,970 --> 00:21:01,597 Four orbs. 471 00:21:01,639 --> 00:21:02,765 Asymmetrical. 472 00:21:02,807 --> 00:21:03,933 Oh, here we go. 473 00:21:03,975 --> 00:21:06,436 This--this is what 474 00:21:06,477 --> 00:21:09,772 This aircraft approaching, 475 00:21:09,814 --> 00:21:12,900 that to me looks like 476 00:21:12,942 --> 00:21:16,195 in absolute--very 477 00:21:16,237 --> 00:21:19,073 So whoever is flying that, 478 00:21:19,115 --> 00:21:20,616 they'll tell you. 479 00:21:20,658 --> 00:21:23,870 Now, there is a 480 00:21:23,911 --> 00:21:28,124 or another one of our 481 00:21:28,166 --> 00:21:30,835 they could have come in and 482 00:21:30,877 --> 00:21:32,962 I'm really surprised that 483 00:21:33,004 --> 00:21:34,922 that no one has leaked 484 00:21:34,964 --> 00:21:36,466 I think the older people get, 485 00:21:36,507 --> 00:21:38,634 they want to have those 486 00:21:38,676 --> 00:21:40,595 They want to be truthful. 487 00:21:40,636 --> 00:21:43,222 It seems to me like multiple 488 00:21:43,264 --> 00:21:45,141 on one night. 489 00:21:45,183 --> 00:21:47,852 Otherwise, I'm telling you, 490 00:21:47,894 --> 00:21:51,606 that know what that 491 00:21:51,647 --> 00:21:54,942 At the time, what was the 492 00:21:54,984 --> 00:21:58,738 Military aviators are the most 493 00:21:58,780 --> 00:22:01,032 I mean, we were 494 00:22:01,074 --> 00:22:02,825 We're constantly in the books. 495 00:22:02,867 --> 00:22:04,994 It's all think, don't feel. 496 00:22:05,036 --> 00:22:07,747 There's no emotion 497 00:22:07,789 --> 00:22:10,833 We call it Sierra Alpha-- 498 00:22:10,875 --> 00:22:13,711 Military aviators have the 499 00:22:13,753 --> 00:22:18,549 So you've got all these guys 500 00:22:18,591 --> 00:22:19,342 in the aviation community, 501 00:22:19,342 --> 00:22:24,138 they either know what happened 502 00:22:24,180 --> 00:22:27,725 or something really did happen 503 00:22:27,767 --> 00:22:28,351 because let's face it-- 504 00:22:28,393 --> 00:22:32,688 technology that's not 505 00:22:32,730 --> 00:22:35,066 and it's going to scare people. 506 00:22:35,108 --> 00:22:39,028 It will change power structures 507 00:22:39,070 --> 00:22:40,530 In certain religious groups, 508 00:22:40,571 --> 00:22:44,033 it would be the event 509 00:22:44,075 --> 00:22:45,993 And now everyone's got a camera, 510 00:22:46,035 --> 00:22:49,163 I think, in a few years, we're 511 00:22:49,205 --> 00:22:52,291 [music] 512 00:22:56,712 --> 00:22:58,214 [music] 513 00:22:58,965 --> 00:23:01,717 [Jennifer] We're investigating 514 00:23:01,759 --> 00:23:03,469 two bizarre and 515 00:23:03,511 --> 00:23:07,056 on the night of 516 00:23:07,098 --> 00:23:08,641 which have been 517 00:23:08,683 --> 00:23:11,644 alien encounters to a 518 00:23:11,686 --> 00:23:14,730 even an elaborate hoax. 519 00:23:14,772 --> 00:23:17,483 Recent sightings of the 520 00:23:17,525 --> 00:23:22,572 that the same V-shaped crafts 521 00:23:22,613 --> 00:23:24,407 Are the orbs simply 522 00:23:24,449 --> 00:23:27,618 and not something 523 00:23:27,660 --> 00:23:29,537 The US Air Force 524 00:23:29,579 --> 00:23:32,373 their planes were not 525 00:23:32,415 --> 00:23:34,167 But it was later 526 00:23:34,208 --> 00:23:36,169 from the Maryland 527 00:23:36,210 --> 00:23:38,129 was flying on a 528 00:23:38,171 --> 00:23:42,175 One of the pilots in that squad 529 00:23:42,216 --> 00:23:44,343 I wanna find out if 530 00:23:44,385 --> 00:23:46,471 were actually flares 531 00:23:46,512 --> 00:23:49,640 that were sent out to distract 532 00:23:49,682 --> 00:23:52,143 Was the military trying to 533 00:23:52,185 --> 00:23:54,353 that nothing happened 534 00:23:54,395 --> 00:23:55,938 Thank you so much 535 00:23:55,980 --> 00:23:56,564 [Jeff] You're welcome. 536 00:23:56,564 --> 00:23:58,399 [Jennifer] Now, you 537 00:23:58,441 --> 00:24:00,610 the night of March 13, 1997. 538 00:24:00,651 --> 00:24:02,487 How far advance would 539 00:24:02,528 --> 00:24:04,322 as to when you were 540 00:24:04,363 --> 00:24:07,283 We make our schedules 541 00:24:07,325 --> 00:24:10,161 And so if a flight 542 00:24:10,203 --> 00:24:12,038 would it be unusual for it to be 543 00:24:12,079 --> 00:24:15,249 moved up or moved 544 00:24:15,291 --> 00:24:17,043 Generally the schedule 545 00:24:17,084 --> 00:24:19,879 because we have to 546 00:24:19,921 --> 00:24:21,923 that own the range. 547 00:24:21,964 --> 00:24:23,382 [Jennifer] And so when you're 548 00:24:23,424 --> 00:24:25,885 what is the purpose 549 00:24:25,927 --> 00:24:28,054 and how many do you carry? 550 00:24:28,095 --> 00:24:29,931 [Jeff] Normally in 551 00:24:29,972 --> 00:24:33,476 you would carry two pods 552 00:24:33,518 --> 00:24:37,188 They're cylindrical in shape. 553 00:24:37,230 --> 00:24:39,565 The tactic would be 554 00:24:39,607 --> 00:24:41,567 go into the target area, 555 00:24:41,609 --> 00:24:45,196 drop a couple of the 556 00:24:45,238 --> 00:24:47,490 and then we would look 557 00:24:47,532 --> 00:24:51,285 And we have four to five minutes 558 00:24:51,327 --> 00:24:54,622 When I left the range, I 559 00:24:54,664 --> 00:24:56,374 that I had on board that night. 560 00:24:56,415 --> 00:25:00,586 So what would be the reason that 561 00:25:00,628 --> 00:25:02,964 the remaining flares rather 562 00:25:03,005 --> 00:25:04,590 after a night 563 00:25:04,632 --> 00:25:06,884 [Jeff] It's--it's a 564 00:25:06,926 --> 00:25:09,971 It's easier for us just 565 00:25:10,012 --> 00:25:11,889 than to bring them back. 566 00:25:11,931 --> 00:25:14,225 There is a conspiracy 567 00:25:14,267 --> 00:25:16,894 there actually was 568 00:25:16,936 --> 00:25:20,940 whether it was extraterrestrial 569 00:25:20,982 --> 00:25:24,318 and then the National Guard 570 00:25:24,360 --> 00:25:28,906 as a way to kind of cover up 571 00:25:28,948 --> 00:25:30,908 the first event. 572 00:25:30,950 --> 00:25:32,368 What are your thoughts on that? 573 00:25:32,410 --> 00:25:34,287 A scenario that 574 00:25:34,328 --> 00:25:39,125 we would almost have to be 575 00:25:39,166 --> 00:25:42,461 which we don't do, 576 00:25:42,503 --> 00:25:44,630 to make all that happen. 577 00:25:44,672 --> 00:25:46,299 [Jennifer] He seems credible. 578 00:25:46,340 --> 00:25:47,883 But I keep going 579 00:25:47,925 --> 00:25:49,635 that the military first reported 580 00:25:49,677 --> 00:25:52,471 they didn't have any planes 581 00:25:52,513 --> 00:25:54,932 Why would they lie if they 582 00:25:57,602 --> 00:25:59,437 It's clear the 583 00:25:59,478 --> 00:26:03,149 witnessed something 584 00:26:03,190 --> 00:26:05,484 I wanna know just how long 585 00:26:05,526 --> 00:26:08,821 strange things in 586 00:26:08,863 --> 00:26:11,032 Is there ancient proof 587 00:26:11,073 --> 00:26:14,285 that extraterrestrials have been 588 00:26:14,327 --> 00:26:17,330 since the dawn of humanity? 589 00:26:17,371 --> 00:26:20,458 Petroglyphs appear all over 590 00:26:20,499 --> 00:26:23,961 as ancient people leave 591 00:26:24,003 --> 00:26:26,839 to tell a story, to mark a spot. 592 00:26:26,881 --> 00:26:29,884 Is it really possible that 593 00:26:29,925 --> 00:26:32,428 of a higher extraterrestrial 594 00:26:32,470 --> 00:26:34,221 or alien presence? 595 00:26:34,263 --> 00:26:39,477 [music] 596 00:26:39,518 --> 00:26:42,521 [Ryan] Clifford Mahooty is 597 00:26:42,563 --> 00:26:45,149 He and UFO researcher 598 00:26:45,191 --> 00:26:47,151 that Native American petroglyphs 599 00:26:47,193 --> 00:26:50,446 are evidence of 600 00:26:50,488 --> 00:26:53,074 The petroglyphs talks 601 00:26:53,115 --> 00:26:55,368 people that were here 602 00:26:55,409 --> 00:26:57,536 But I think the 603 00:26:57,578 --> 00:27:00,081 is how they dealt 604 00:27:02,583 --> 00:27:05,961 Aboriginal groups have a 605 00:27:06,003 --> 00:27:07,922 the Star Nation people, 606 00:27:07,963 --> 00:27:10,091 which are from different 607 00:27:10,132 --> 00:27:13,219 Indians have rock 608 00:27:13,260 --> 00:27:16,055 James is very familiar 609 00:27:16,097 --> 00:27:17,932 The petroglyphs have 610 00:27:17,973 --> 00:27:20,142 based on past 611 00:27:20,184 --> 00:27:21,894 lost ancient history, 612 00:27:21,936 --> 00:27:23,979 and that's what I'm gonna 613 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,233 [Ryan] I've heard so many 614 00:27:27,274 --> 00:27:29,527 about the Star People coming 615 00:27:29,568 --> 00:27:31,445 and communicating with them. 616 00:27:31,487 --> 00:27:35,032 So if there is ancient evidence 617 00:27:35,074 --> 00:27:36,575 we've gotta see it. 618 00:27:36,617 --> 00:27:47,086 [music] 619 00:27:47,128 --> 00:27:49,130 [James] This one's loose, 620 00:27:49,714 --> 00:27:52,216 The four corners symbol-- 621 00:27:52,258 --> 00:27:53,008 [Clifford] Mm-hmm. 622 00:27:53,008 --> 00:27:57,304 We got the cross showing this 623 00:27:57,346 --> 00:28:00,975 a landmark site, for the 624 00:28:01,016 --> 00:28:03,102 We have additional 625 00:28:03,144 --> 00:28:06,021 a natural ascension upwards. 626 00:28:06,063 --> 00:28:08,441 There's a lot of sightings 627 00:28:08,482 --> 00:28:12,278 Uh, vortexes opening, 628 00:28:12,319 --> 00:28:15,531 In some cases, they 629 00:28:15,573 --> 00:28:20,119 The way that it's taught to us 630 00:28:20,161 --> 00:28:22,788 directly from the Star People. 631 00:28:22,830 --> 00:28:24,290 [Ryan] I found it fascinating 632 00:28:24,331 --> 00:28:26,292 that Clifford brought up 633 00:28:26,333 --> 00:28:29,211 and that these petroglyphs might 634 00:28:29,253 --> 00:28:31,964 There's still [unintelligible] 635 00:28:32,006 --> 00:28:32,715 [Ryan] And when it comes 636 00:28:32,715 --> 00:28:36,427 we know that this is the 637 00:28:36,469 --> 00:28:38,095 and where they disappeared. 638 00:28:38,137 --> 00:28:41,599 So it only makes sense to me 639 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,852 where people say, supposedly, 640 00:28:44,894 --> 00:28:46,103 why not? 641 00:28:46,145 --> 00:28:48,314 Why couldn't it be this area? 642 00:28:48,355 --> 00:28:50,065 [Jennifer] Ryan makes 643 00:28:50,107 --> 00:28:53,110 UFO researchers swear 644 00:28:53,152 --> 00:28:55,237 to explain how crafts can travel 645 00:28:55,279 --> 00:28:58,115 such vast distances 646 00:28:58,157 --> 00:29:00,826 and then disappear 647 00:29:00,868 --> 00:29:02,536 But I'm yet to be convinced. 648 00:29:02,578 --> 00:29:05,915 There's a good possibility that 649 00:29:05,956 --> 00:29:08,793 witnessed this plasma event 650 00:29:08,834 --> 00:29:12,880 electrical arcing 651 00:29:12,922 --> 00:29:16,091 and some other 652 00:29:19,595 --> 00:29:21,889 [music] 653 00:29:21,931 --> 00:29:22,681 Those petroglyphs are amazing. 654 00:29:22,681 --> 00:29:27,228 Yeah, they really show that 655 00:29:27,269 --> 00:29:28,813 for a really long time. 656 00:29:28,854 --> 00:29:31,524 So you think the spiral 657 00:29:31,565 --> 00:29:33,150 symbolizing some sort of vortex? 658 00:29:33,192 --> 00:29:36,028 Yeah, somewhere where 659 00:29:36,070 --> 00:29:37,154 can come in and out of. 660 00:29:37,196 --> 00:29:38,948 Then we have to 661 00:29:38,989 --> 00:29:40,866 I mean, in Arizona, right here? 662 00:29:40,908 --> 00:29:43,452 While Ryan looks into 663 00:29:43,494 --> 00:29:45,162 I'm gonna try to 664 00:29:45,204 --> 00:29:47,414 who saw the lights 665 00:29:47,456 --> 00:29:50,960 [music] 666 00:29:55,422 --> 00:29:57,883 [music] 667 00:29:57,925 --> 00:29:59,969 [Jennifer] Our investigation 668 00:30:00,010 --> 00:30:03,556 has led us to witnesses whose 669 00:30:03,597 --> 00:30:07,434 by this mass UFO sighting 670 00:30:07,476 --> 00:30:11,397 Multiple accounts describe 671 00:30:11,438 --> 00:30:16,151 that slowly and silently 672 00:30:16,193 --> 00:30:18,571 But how could such 673 00:30:18,612 --> 00:30:21,031 in the middle of a 674 00:30:21,073 --> 00:30:24,493 and then vanish into thin air? 675 00:30:24,535 --> 00:30:26,036 One theory that's 676 00:30:26,078 --> 00:30:29,915 to explain the presence 677 00:30:29,957 --> 00:30:31,959 [Ryan] Witnesses of the 678 00:30:32,001 --> 00:30:35,337 what they saw disappeared 679 00:30:35,379 --> 00:30:37,256 Mike, how's it going? 680 00:30:37,298 --> 00:30:41,260 I wanna find out what could 681 00:30:41,302 --> 00:30:45,431 We know black holes exist. 682 00:30:45,472 --> 00:30:48,434 Now, I wanna get your 683 00:30:48,475 --> 00:30:52,062 Is this something that 684 00:30:52,104 --> 00:30:54,481 Wormholes do exist as solutions 685 00:30:54,523 --> 00:30:56,984 to Einstein's theory 686 00:30:57,026 --> 00:30:59,612 which are regions of 687 00:30:59,653 --> 00:31:03,240 that could connect to 688 00:31:03,282 --> 00:31:06,619 So is it possible that 689 00:31:06,660 --> 00:31:10,164 could use that to 690 00:31:10,205 --> 00:31:11,498 shorter amount of time? 691 00:31:11,540 --> 00:31:13,542 We either need 692 00:31:13,584 --> 00:31:15,294 beyond our current understanding 693 00:31:15,336 --> 00:31:18,339 or you'd need some very 694 00:31:18,380 --> 00:31:20,966 that had negative mass 695 00:31:21,008 --> 00:31:21,759 the throat of that wormhole. 696 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:26,263 And that's not something we're 697 00:31:26,305 --> 00:31:28,307 Not only do we lack 698 00:31:28,349 --> 00:31:29,892 to create such a thing, 699 00:31:29,934 --> 00:31:31,977 we don't even know if 700 00:31:32,019 --> 00:31:33,979 And then in principle, 701 00:31:34,021 --> 00:31:36,148 if the light was passing 702 00:31:36,190 --> 00:31:38,484 you'd be seeing stuff 703 00:31:38,525 --> 00:31:40,319 which wouldn't be 704 00:31:40,361 --> 00:31:43,322 It seems like it would--it would 705 00:31:43,364 --> 00:31:45,491 So this would be 706 00:31:45,532 --> 00:31:49,244 Yes, both wormhole travel or 707 00:31:49,286 --> 00:31:52,414 would probably leave so 708 00:31:52,456 --> 00:31:54,625 that we can safely 709 00:31:54,667 --> 00:31:58,212 [music] 710 00:31:58,253 --> 00:32:00,297 [Jennifer] At this point, 711 00:32:00,339 --> 00:32:02,800 that appeared over 712 00:32:02,841 --> 00:32:04,718 But so far, the proof 713 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,389 from extraterrestrial 714 00:32:08,430 --> 00:32:13,811 [music] 715 00:32:13,852 --> 00:32:15,187 [Jennifer] Hopefully, 716 00:32:15,229 --> 00:32:17,481 can provide more answers. 717 00:32:17,523 --> 00:32:21,151 [Ryan] He's got cameras 718 00:32:21,193 --> 00:32:22,361 [Jennifer] Some people 719 00:32:22,403 --> 00:32:24,154 I think that's smart. 720 00:32:24,196 --> 00:32:27,241 I mean, he's constantly 721 00:32:27,282 --> 00:32:30,244 so if anyone knows what's going 722 00:32:31,870 --> 00:32:33,330 [Tom] Come on in, guys! 723 00:32:33,372 --> 00:32:33,914 [Jennifer] Hey, Tom. 724 00:32:33,956 --> 00:32:34,581 [Tom] Come on in 725 00:32:34,623 --> 00:32:37,209 [Ryan] We're gonna be 726 00:32:37,251 --> 00:32:38,002 He's a witness to 727 00:32:38,043 --> 00:32:42,339 He can help us make sense of the 728 00:32:42,381 --> 00:32:43,632 Wow, look at this setup! 729 00:32:43,674 --> 00:32:45,342 [Ryan] I feel like 730 00:32:45,384 --> 00:32:45,968 [Tom] This is my control room, 731 00:32:46,010 --> 00:32:49,096 where I monitor the 732 00:32:49,138 --> 00:32:49,805 So what are we looking at here? 733 00:32:49,805 --> 00:32:54,309 This is the video that 734 00:32:54,351 --> 00:32:56,729 Over here is the video that 735 00:32:56,770 --> 00:32:58,313 up in Moon Valley. 736 00:32:58,355 --> 00:33:01,400 And over here is the video 737 00:33:01,442 --> 00:33:02,860 I spent a great deal 738 00:33:02,901 --> 00:33:05,612 all the camera movement, 739 00:33:05,654 --> 00:33:07,531 Now, were these for 740 00:33:07,573 --> 00:33:08,657 or the 10 o'clock? 741 00:33:08,699 --> 00:33:10,534 These are the 10 o'clock event. 742 00:33:10,576 --> 00:33:14,413 [Tom] I got four of them. 743 00:33:14,455 --> 00:33:17,041 It was pitch 744 00:33:17,082 --> 00:33:19,710 And unless you lived 745 00:33:19,752 --> 00:33:21,628 or you had a house 746 00:33:21,670 --> 00:33:23,547 or you were farther north, 747 00:33:23,589 --> 00:33:25,049 you couldn't see 748 00:33:25,090 --> 00:33:26,717 So there are some 749 00:33:26,759 --> 00:33:29,386 the 10 o'clock event 750 00:33:29,428 --> 00:33:31,430 trying to cover up 751 00:33:31,472 --> 00:33:34,141 That's the million-dollar 752 00:33:34,183 --> 00:33:37,352 Maybe somebody just heard 753 00:33:37,394 --> 00:33:41,732 and told somebody, hey, 754 00:33:41,774 --> 00:33:44,526 and that created the array 755 00:33:44,568 --> 00:33:46,278 that Mike filmed. 756 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,406 And if that's the job they 757 00:33:49,448 --> 00:33:53,243 Let's look at the only footage 758 00:34:01,210 --> 00:34:03,253 [Tom] The boomerang that 759 00:34:03,295 --> 00:34:05,255 down to Tucson. 760 00:34:05,297 --> 00:34:09,426 We have to put on the table that 761 00:34:09,468 --> 00:34:12,096 8:30 event will 762 00:34:12,137 --> 00:34:15,265 The sheer size of this 763 00:34:15,307 --> 00:34:16,558 It didn't make a sound. 764 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,144 It was stealth. 765 00:34:19,185 --> 00:34:22,106 Almost everybody I met 766 00:34:22,147 --> 00:34:23,732 it changed their life. 767 00:34:23,774 --> 00:34:26,109 They became believers. 768 00:34:26,151 --> 00:34:30,364 Something from another 769 00:34:30,405 --> 00:34:32,616 I've never met 770 00:34:32,658 --> 00:34:35,285 who saw something 771 00:34:35,327 --> 00:34:37,704 and had a religious 772 00:34:37,745 --> 00:34:41,667 and changed the entire course 773 00:34:41,707 --> 00:34:45,169 But that happened to thousands 774 00:34:49,841 --> 00:34:50,425 [Jennifer] Before 775 00:34:50,466 --> 00:34:53,011 what our separate 776 00:34:53,053 --> 00:34:54,721 I thought it would 777 00:34:54,763 --> 00:34:57,975 to get a forensic analysis 778 00:34:58,016 --> 00:35:00,853 I reached out to audio and 779 00:35:00,894 --> 00:35:02,729 to see what she can find. 780 00:35:02,771 --> 00:35:04,356 Well, there's a lot that I see, 781 00:35:04,398 --> 00:35:06,024 and I'm excited about 782 00:35:06,066 --> 00:35:09,820 because it's pretty 783 00:35:09,862 --> 00:35:11,989 from different people 784 00:35:12,030 --> 00:35:13,740 at the same time. 785 00:35:13,782 --> 00:35:15,576 But as far as the audit trail 786 00:35:15,617 --> 00:35:19,496 and the reliability of the 787 00:35:19,538 --> 00:35:21,415 because we're working on VHS 788 00:35:21,456 --> 00:35:24,418 passed through many hands, 789 00:35:24,459 --> 00:35:28,881 But that does not mean that 790 00:35:28,922 --> 00:35:30,757 Here's the exciting part. 791 00:35:30,799 --> 00:35:33,927 The conspiracy theorists 792 00:35:33,969 --> 00:35:35,846 show a new type of aircraft, 793 00:35:35,888 --> 00:35:38,932 even though I cannot 794 00:35:38,974 --> 00:35:42,060 But without a doubt, 795 00:35:42,102 --> 00:35:46,940 even without an audit trail, 796 00:35:48,775 --> 00:35:52,404 So dissipating seems to be 797 00:35:52,446 --> 00:35:53,197 with all of these. 798 00:35:53,197 --> 00:35:56,116 [Jennifer O] I don't 799 00:35:56,158 --> 00:35:59,369 I think that the 800 00:35:59,411 --> 00:36:01,079 because they're flares. 801 00:36:01,121 --> 00:36:04,499 Okay. Now, we have 802 00:36:04,541 --> 00:36:08,045 but this is the only video 803 00:36:08,086 --> 00:36:09,755 from of around 8:00 PM. 804 00:36:09,796 --> 00:36:13,634 So what do you make of what 805 00:36:13,675 --> 00:36:15,677 Now, this one I'm excited about. 806 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,971 Now we're seeing the sky. 807 00:36:18,013 --> 00:36:23,435 The power of video processing 808 00:36:23,477 --> 00:36:26,647 And in doing so, 809 00:36:26,688 --> 00:36:30,317 a singular mass flying object. 810 00:36:30,359 --> 00:36:32,736 [Ryan] This looks like 811 00:36:32,778 --> 00:36:35,322 It is. 812 00:36:35,364 --> 00:36:38,116 We can see the sky. 813 00:36:38,158 --> 00:36:39,993 There's nothing in between 814 00:36:40,035 --> 00:36:43,205 So that would lead us to believe 815 00:36:48,919 --> 00:36:50,879 [music] 816 00:36:51,380 --> 00:36:53,090 [Jennifer] We're meeting 817 00:36:53,131 --> 00:36:54,841 an audio and video expert. 818 00:36:54,883 --> 00:36:56,760 She has confirmed that 819 00:36:56,802 --> 00:36:58,804 has been manipulated 820 00:36:58,845 --> 00:37:01,890 But can she tell us if what 821 00:37:01,932 --> 00:37:03,684 or something else? 822 00:37:03,725 --> 00:37:06,520 [Jennifer O] We can see the 823 00:37:06,561 --> 00:37:08,397 There's nothing in between 824 00:37:08,438 --> 00:37:13,026 So that would lead us to believe 825 00:37:13,068 --> 00:37:16,363 This is a pretty big 826 00:37:16,405 --> 00:37:19,449 and these five lights 827 00:37:19,491 --> 00:37:21,076 throughout the video. 828 00:37:21,118 --> 00:37:22,869 Jennifer, there have 829 00:37:22,911 --> 00:37:25,372 of a triangular-shaped craft. 830 00:37:25,414 --> 00:37:28,417 So I'm wondering in this 831 00:37:28,458 --> 00:37:31,795 that was taken near Albuquerque 832 00:37:31,837 --> 00:37:33,547 what are you seeing there? 833 00:37:33,588 --> 00:37:35,716 [Jennifer O] Let's take a look. 834 00:37:35,757 --> 00:37:38,969 We'll just scroll 835 00:37:39,011 --> 00:37:40,971 Looks familiar, right? 836 00:37:41,013 --> 00:37:43,056 We're seeing 837 00:37:43,098 --> 00:37:47,728 in structure and framework 838 00:37:47,769 --> 00:37:49,938 Is there anything 839 00:37:49,980 --> 00:37:53,859 to discern what type of aircraft 840 00:37:53,900 --> 00:37:57,696 Well, this happened both 841 00:37:57,738 --> 00:38:02,075 If we're judging by 842 00:38:02,117 --> 00:38:06,079 at that particular time, 843 00:38:06,121 --> 00:38:09,041 it would have to 844 00:38:09,082 --> 00:38:10,751 [Jennifer] I think 845 00:38:10,792 --> 00:38:13,420 that this is some sort 846 00:38:13,462 --> 00:38:15,756 Maybe the B-21 Raider. 847 00:38:15,797 --> 00:38:17,758 It seems to fit 848 00:38:17,799 --> 00:38:18,342 of what we're seeing. 849 00:38:18,383 --> 00:38:19,217 [Jennifer O] It 850 00:38:19,217 --> 00:38:22,346 Jennifer] We don't know because 851 00:38:22,387 --> 00:38:25,599 What I definitively think 852 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,895 Maybe it was your typical flying 853 00:38:29,936 --> 00:38:33,023 we're on a need-to-know basis 854 00:38:33,065 --> 00:38:37,527 [music] 855 00:38:37,569 --> 00:38:39,071 If we go back to 856 00:38:39,112 --> 00:38:41,656 March 13, 1997. 857 00:38:41,698 --> 00:38:44,743 The sun set at 6:35 PM 858 00:38:44,785 --> 00:38:47,954 So that means the planes were in 859 00:38:47,996 --> 00:38:49,831 They were most likely 860 00:38:49,873 --> 00:38:51,792 when the boomerang 861 00:38:51,833 --> 00:38:54,669 Okay, so you think 862 00:38:54,711 --> 00:38:57,047 could be attributed to flares 863 00:38:57,089 --> 00:38:59,841 No, I don't think that 864 00:38:59,883 --> 00:39:01,551 Let's go to the videos, right? 865 00:39:01,593 --> 00:39:03,470 The videos we know 866 00:39:03,512 --> 00:39:04,596 Those videos are real. 867 00:39:04,638 --> 00:39:06,056 [Ryan] Right, there's no CGI. 868 00:39:06,098 --> 00:39:07,891 They're completely authentic. 869 00:39:07,933 --> 00:39:09,684 [Jennifer] Then we have 870 00:39:09,726 --> 00:39:12,396 He was there that night. 871 00:39:12,437 --> 00:39:15,649 He was in the air and 872 00:39:15,690 --> 00:39:19,319 I'm willing to admit that 873 00:39:19,361 --> 00:39:21,321 the videos, 874 00:39:21,363 --> 00:39:23,949 was most likely flares. 875 00:39:23,990 --> 00:39:27,035 But for me, I keep going 876 00:39:27,077 --> 00:39:30,831 where all of these witnesses 877 00:39:30,872 --> 00:39:34,501 And not only that, the 878 00:39:34,543 --> 00:39:36,586 through Tucson, 879 00:39:36,628 --> 00:39:38,505 That's definitely not flares. 880 00:39:38,547 --> 00:39:40,674 So if there was a craft, 881 00:39:40,715 --> 00:39:41,842 It just disappeared? 882 00:39:41,883 --> 00:39:44,344 I don't think it disappeared. 883 00:39:44,386 --> 00:39:48,557 I think it's possible 884 00:39:48,598 --> 00:39:51,017 Look at Clifford, who 885 00:39:51,059 --> 00:39:55,480 These swirls could represent 886 00:39:55,522 --> 00:39:58,650 a way for some other 887 00:39:58,692 --> 00:40:00,360 bend space and time. 888 00:40:00,402 --> 00:40:02,654 We don't know for sure 889 00:40:02,696 --> 00:40:04,948 so I can't necessarily 890 00:40:04,990 --> 00:40:06,616 But one thing that 891 00:40:06,658 --> 00:40:10,537 during this whole investigation 892 00:40:10,579 --> 00:40:12,747 the pilot who wants 893 00:40:12,789 --> 00:40:15,375 and the nurse, Dave Parker, 894 00:40:15,417 --> 00:40:18,503 You know that I'm not easily 895 00:40:18,545 --> 00:40:22,382 But with these two, they were 896 00:40:22,424 --> 00:40:23,758 They were so close to the craft. 897 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,719 They remembered it 898 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,762 They have nothing to gain. 899 00:40:27,804 --> 00:40:29,723 As a matter of fact, 900 00:40:29,764 --> 00:40:31,725 -by coming forward. 901 00:40:31,766 --> 00:40:35,729 Anyone who reports these UFOs 902 00:40:35,770 --> 00:40:38,648 But I mean, look at the 903 00:40:38,690 --> 00:40:40,817 during our Area 51 904 00:40:40,859 --> 00:40:44,404 Their reports mirror what 905 00:40:44,446 --> 00:40:47,574 the same shape of the craft, 906 00:40:47,616 --> 00:40:49,576 I mean, what I saw 907 00:40:49,618 --> 00:40:52,454 was exactly what these 908 00:40:52,496 --> 00:40:55,165 All of this leads me to believe 909 00:40:55,207 --> 00:40:57,000 experimental military prototype. 910 00:40:57,042 --> 00:40:58,543 It has to be. 911 00:40:58,585 --> 00:41:00,045 Now, why they would 912 00:41:00,086 --> 00:41:03,590 over a heavily populated 913 00:41:03,632 --> 00:41:06,051 And I will say the fact that 914 00:41:06,092 --> 00:41:08,970 two decades later 915 00:41:09,012 --> 00:41:11,890 The 2019 event really 916 00:41:11,932 --> 00:41:15,519 So if it was an 917 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,562 where did that 918 00:41:17,604 --> 00:41:20,106 when we have even pilots 919 00:41:20,148 --> 00:41:23,777 the technology it represents 920 00:41:23,818 --> 00:41:26,988 than anything we have. 921 00:41:27,030 --> 00:41:27,572 I know what you're getting at, 922 00:41:27,572 --> 00:41:29,407 and I can't say that 923 00:41:29,449 --> 00:41:30,992 that this was 924 00:41:31,034 --> 00:41:33,495 So I understand why these people 925 00:41:33,537 --> 00:41:35,789 can't explain what they're 926 00:41:35,830 --> 00:41:37,791 but they know it wasn't flares. 927 00:41:37,832 --> 00:41:40,085 And they know it wasn't a plane. 928 00:41:40,126 --> 00:41:42,504 We're dealing with something 929 00:41:42,546 --> 00:41:44,381 that I don't know 930 00:41:44,422 --> 00:41:46,258 could possibly come from. 931 00:41:46,299 --> 00:41:49,302 But the question remains-- 932 00:41:49,344 --> 00:41:52,222 If it did, in fact, 933 00:41:52,264 --> 00:41:59,521 [music] 934 00:42:01,189 --> 00:42:13,159 [music] 935 00:42:21,126 --> 00:42:24,129 [music]