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PETER HAMMERSTEDT:
We have to do this
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under the cover of darkness.
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There could be eyes watching us.
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It's only through
a stealth mission, really,
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that we'll have any success
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intercepting
an illegal operator.
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MARIANA VAN ZELLER:
I'm on the trail
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of what some consider
the perfect crime.
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A black market worth
more than $20 billion,
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with little risk
of getting caught.
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I'm told it's
like robbing a bank
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in the middle of the ocean.
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So you see these lights
out there on the ocean,
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those are the six
super trawlers.
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PETER: One of the reasons
that we're all black
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is so that these super trawlers
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don’t see that a patrol
is under way,
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that they don’t see us
leaving the harbor.
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MARIANA: Somewhere out there
in the darkness
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are the most prolific
wildlife poachers on the planet.
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Who are they?
How do they work?
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And why is it so hard
to stop them?
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I thought I knew black markets,
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but I’ve never seen
anything like this.
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PETER: In this mass
expanse of water,
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we're looking for ships
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that are doing everything
that they can to hide.
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MARIANA: I've come to Liberia
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to understand how
illegal fishing works.
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PETER: These trawlers
come in direct conflict
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with the local fishermen,
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because they're
literally stealing fish
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from the local communities here.
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MARIANA: Some countries
have the resources
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to protect their own waters
from poachers;
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others don’t.
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That's why Liberia
has enlisted the help
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of an international organization
called Sea Shepherd.
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On board are a 30‐person crew,
the Liberian Coast Guard
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and my guide
to this joint patrol,
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20‐year Sea Shepherd veteran
Peter Hammerstedt.
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Peter currently heads
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Sea Shepherd’s task force
in Africa,
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a region plagued by overfishing.
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What’s causing the overfishing?
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PETER: You have a European fleet
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that's at a massive
overcapacity,
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two and a half times
what it could sustainably fish
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in European waters.
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You have a Chinese
distant water fishing fleet
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that has essentially wiped out
fisheries off the coast of China
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and that is now seeking
waters to fish elsewhere.
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And these two
massive fishing fleets
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from Europe, from China,
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have congregated in areas
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where, historically,
there still has been fish.
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Places like West Africa.
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MARIANA:
There's no global framework
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that governs what is legal
in the fishing industry.
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That’s a huge part
of the problem.
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And in places like West Africa,
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foreign trawlers can take
advantage of patchy regulation,
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poor enforcement
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and the rampant corruption
of some local officials.
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It's a low‐risk,
high‐reward crime,
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but the Sea Shepherd
is trying to change that.
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PETER: Six miles offshore,
no industrial vessels
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are allowed inside
of an inshore exclusion zone.
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But when there's no
patrolling presence at sea,
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these trawlers routinely turn
off their location transponders,
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and they go in.
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MARIANA: Every large commercial
fishing vessel is equipped
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with an Automatic
Identification System, or AIS,
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which transmits
its position at sea.
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If I were to be
fishing illegal
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inside the exclusion zones,
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as a captain of a ship,
I would turn off the AIS?
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PETER: You’d get close
to the prohibited area.
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That’s when you would
turn your AIS off.
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And you wouldn't
reappear on AIS
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until you’ve left
that prohibited area.
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MARIANA: In order
to directly observe
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suspicious fishing vessels,
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we need to get closer to them
and avoid being detected.
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That means we wait for the cover
of nightfall again.
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WOMAN: So these are the vessels
that we are looking at.
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At the moment they are about
three miles away from us.
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MARIANA: We’re super close
to this trawler, right?
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WOMAN: At the moment, yes.
We can see them.
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MARIANA: Oh, you can
actually see them?
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PETER: Yeah.
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MARIANA: Oh, it’s that,
what, light over there.
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WOMAN: Yes.
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MARIANA: So that’s the boat
we're going after?
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WOMAN: Yes.
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MARIANA: The Sea Shepherd crew
has found and identified
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a trawler with a known history
of turning off its AIS.
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What have you guys been able
to find out about this boat?
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PETER: There's not that much
known about this vessel,
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which is suspicious
in and of itself.
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We know that this vessel has
a long history of dark periods,
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where they turn off
their location transponder.
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And we know that they've done
some suspicious identity changes
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in, especially, claiming
to be a Somali vessel,
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as soon as
a month and a half ago.
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Uh, this is a vessel
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that we think is most likely
flagged to Senegal,
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but with a beneficial owner
that’s in Spain.
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MARIANA: Peter has a long
history with the Spanish.
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Back in the early 2000s,
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one out of every three fish
in the Antarctic
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was being caught illegally...
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most by Spanish‐owned vessels.
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Some were brought to justice,
but six trawlers kept at it,
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evading authorities
by changing their colors,
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their flags
and even their names.
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They were known
as the Bandit 6.
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The most notorious, a vessel
that made millions
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poaching Chilean sea bass,
was known as the Thunder.
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And Peter helped bring it down.
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PETER: We found the Thunder
fishing in a CCAMLR region.
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They’re not licensed
to fish down here.
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There’s an Interpol Purple
Notice issued for this vessel.
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We've told the vessel
that they're under arrest
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and we've told them
to go to Fremantle, Australia.
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We saw this vessel
emerge out of the fog.
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PETER: That would begin
what ultimately would become
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the longest maritime pursuit
in history.
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The chase stretched
across three oceans,
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covering 11,000 nautical miles,
and covered 110 days.
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(ship horn blowing)
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MARIANA: And then
in the end what happened?
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PETER: Ultimately, unable
to shake us as the pursuers,
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the captain of the Thunder
decided to sink his own ship,
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in an attempt to destroy
the evidence on board.
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MARIANA: Were they able to?
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PETER:
As they abandoned the ship,
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three of my crew boarded
the vessel with cameras.
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They were able to seize
nautical charts, mobile phones,
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computer hard drives,
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evidence that was
turned over to Interpol,
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who then used that evidence
to chase down the owner.
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She’s going down.
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MARIANA: Although several
crew members of the Thunder
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were sent to prison,
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the shipowner, like the owners
of the other Bandit 6 vessels,
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remained free.
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And Peter is confident that many
of those same players
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are still active in
the illegal fishing game today.
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WOMAN: At the moment,
they cannot see us.
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They can probably see
a very small red light,
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but not able to ID what we are.
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PETER: And we've also
reduced the speed,
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so we're matching their speed
of about three knots,
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which is a speed
indicative of fishing.
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So if they're just looking
at us on radar,
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they’re going to think
that we’re another trawler.
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MARIANA: Mmm.
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So it's the perfect way to
approach a situation like this,
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for a covert mission
like this one, I guess?
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PETER: The perfect way
to surprise a fishing boat
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is to pretend that you
are a fishing boat.
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MARIANA: Hmm.
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PETER: The plan tonight
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is that we’ll be assisting
the Liberian Coast Guard.
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Kanbal III claims to be
a shrimp trawler
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but may be doing something
very, very different.
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MARIANA: In 2017,
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the Kanbal III was approached
by another joint patrol,
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conducted by Senegalese fishing
authorities and Greenpeace.
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For more than 20 minutes,
Kanbal III's captain
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ignored radio requests
to slow down
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and to allow inspection.
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(man shouting)
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MARIANA: Once the Senegalese
authorities finally boarded,
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they discovered
Kanbal III's nets
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had been manipulated to create
a smaller mesh size,
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thereby capturing more fish.
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This is illegal
in most of the world.
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They also discovered
that the crew
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had attempted to undo
their net modifications
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prior to inspection.
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(man shouting)
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MARIANA: How dangerous
are these operations?
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WOMAN: What we are doing
carries some risks.
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But we have the Liberian
Coast Guard with us.
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We have a trained crew, and
that’s what we are here for.
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MARIANA: Being in a small boat
on the open ocean at night
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is an unnerving experience.
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It's cold,
you can't see a thing,
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and you’re surrounded on
all sides by deep, dark water.
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It’s scary.
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You feel small and helpless.
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As we get closer
to the Kanbal III,
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I’m struck by the danger
of what we’re about to do.
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(man speaking foreign language)
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MARIANA: Not only are we
attempting to board a ship
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in the open ocean at night,
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but we have no idea what
or who we'll find on board.
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(officer shouting)
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MARIANA: I'm with the crew
of the Sea Shepherd
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and the Liberian Coast Guard
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as they board a fishing trawler
called the Kanbal III
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that’s been exhibiting
suspicious behavior.
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MARIANA: Pedro.
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So, the captain
is actually Portuguese.
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I just saw his passport
right here.
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MARIANA: Certa.
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MARIANA: Mm‐hmm.
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MARIANA: Mm‐hmm.
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He seems uncomfortable
with my questions,
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which makes me even more curious
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about what might be found
on the boat.
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MARIANA: Okay.
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We go over the ship’s documents,
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and it looks like their license
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allows them to trawl
for shrimp and crab.
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But the Liberian Coast Guard
needs to see proof
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that they’re fishing
by the rules.
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So they ask the captain
to reel in the nets.
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Oh, wow. So you can see the fish
starting to come in.
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They’re opening up the nets?
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Okay, and this is essentially
what they have
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the actual license
to be fishing right now,
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is the shrimp.
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I mean, I grew up
eating this, you know,
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this is called lagostim
in Portugal.
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I grew up eating
this kind of shrimp.
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PETER: Here the shrimp
is maybe not even 1/10
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of what the catch is, right?
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And that's pretty typical
of a shrimp fishery,
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this enormous amount of bycatch.
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MARIANA:
Bycatch refers to the fish
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or other marine species
that are caught unintentionally
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while fishing
for a specific target.
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In this case, shrimp.
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To me, you know,
looking at some of these
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and knowing that each
of these shrimp in Portugal
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on a plate at a restaurant,
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they can sell
for about 20 euros each,
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and you can see the amount
of money that can be made,
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not by these guys,
but by the big bosses, right?
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The people that are actually
making the money from, you know,
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thousands and thousands
and thousands of dollars
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that we’re seeing worth
of shrimp on this boat.
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PETER: And here these guys
are making $150 a month.
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This is not‐‐like, the economics
of this does not trickle down.
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MARIANA: It's an ugly reality,
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but still no sign
of illegal activity.
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So, I make my way
down to the cargo hold,
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where the catch
is frozen and kept.
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So, it says cangrejos, crab;
gamba, shrimp;
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and, uh, captured in the
Atlantic, so very, very vague.
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And then heading
towards Vigo, España,
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and it says the importer...
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yeah, which is a Spanish name.
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Have you heard of this company?
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WOMAN: Yeah, yeah.
We've heard of them before.
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Based in Vigo, which is a city
in Galicia, a region of Spain.
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PETER: You could tell
the captain was a bit evasive.
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He didn't want to say that
the real ownership of the vessel
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is in Spain.
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There's Spanish language
documents on the bridge,
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there's documentation
on the cartons of fish
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that everything’s
being exported to Spain.
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To Vigo, Spain,
which is Galicia,
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which is really the heart of
fishing in Spain, in particular.
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MARIANA: And yet,
despite Peter's suspicions,
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there's no evidence
of illegal activity.
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PETER: Today the Liberian Coast
Guard has to let this ship go.
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MARIANA: So the nets
of the Kanbal III
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will soon be back in the water.
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I spent almost a week
on the Sea Shepherd
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and learned one of the great
ironies of the fishing world‐‐
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that despite the fact that
almost 20% of our seafood
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comes from the black market,
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it’s nearly impossible
to catch anyone red‐handed.
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But I’m not giving up.
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I'm determined to find my way
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inside this world
of illegal fishing.
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PAUL WOODS: Yeah, this is
the global footprint of fishing,
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mostly industrial fishing.
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MARIANA: That's all the green
that I'm seeing right here,
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all these little green squares?
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PAUL: Yeah, each one of these
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is an area where vessels
are fishing.
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MARIANA: Uh‐huh.
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PAUL: There’s 50,000
vessels out there.
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MARIANA: 50,000?
PAUL: Doing, yeah.
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MARIANA: Industrial, commercial?
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PAUL: Yeah, just the big ones.
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MARIANA: 50,000?
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PAUL: Yeah, right.
50,000 vessels around the world.
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MARIANA: Perhaps as much as 20%
of seafood brought into the U. S.
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comes from the black market.
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Yet, I’m still searching
for a way inside.
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I’m hoping Paul Woods can
point me in the right direction.
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He's the co‐founder
of Global Fishing Watch,
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a non‐profit that uses
state‐of‐the‐art data analysis
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to monitor fishing vessels
around the world.
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So if you are doing
illegal activities out at sea,
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what are the chances you'll
actually be caught, in general?
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PAUL: In well‐regulated
countries,
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there’s a good chance
you’ll get caught.
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This is clear because
the U. S. is good at managing.
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In Hawaii there’s lots
of fish out here,
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but they, uh, the, you know,
the U. S. Navy keeps them out.
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Whereas, uh, in Africa,
in West Africa,
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all the foreign fleets,
Spain and China, Korea, Japan,
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and the United States,
you know,
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they all just fish in there,
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and they're not,
they don't keep them out,
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because they’re not good
at keeping them out.
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We've had issues where
we've seen vessels on the map
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doing something
we know is illegal,
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we report it to the authorities,
and we tell them,
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"This vessel is fishing
in your waters,
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it’s not on your registry list,
it's clearly illegal,"
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and then we find out
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that they were retroactively
granted a license to fish.
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So this happens routinely.
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MARIANA: Hmm. And why
do you think that is?
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PAUL: Uh, well, because there's,
there's money to be made
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in, uh, fishing
and, uh, licensing fishing.
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You know, and that is,
you know, more powerful
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than the need to keep
the fishery sustainable.
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MARIANA: How frustrating
is it for you?
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PAUL: Uh, it’s,
it’s pretty frustrating.
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What you need is
for the fishers to know
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that eventually, even if they're
not caught in the act,
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they’re going to, you know,
face consequences
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for breaking the rules.
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MARIANA: But right now,
that’s not happening.
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In fact, the criminals are using
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the globalized nature of
the industry to their advantage.
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PAUL: The vessel fishes
in one country,
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it lands the catch
in another country,
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it's flagged in a third country,
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and it’s owned by someone
in a fourth country,
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and that’s where
all the money goes.
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So how can you even police it?
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There's four countries involved
that all have to cooperate
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in order to actually create
consequences for that owner
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for their illegal actions
that happen on the water.
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MARIANA: That's why
some shipowners take advantage
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of what's called
"flags of convenience."
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They register their vessel
in a foreign country
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with limited oversight,
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often as a way to skirt
regulations at home
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or avoid detection abroad.
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PAUL:
It’s a global supply chain.
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Everything gets mingled
and flows around.
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So once, once it comes off
the boat and goes into that,
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it’s really hard to trace.
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♪ ♪
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MARIANA: The shrimp I saw
on the Kanbal III
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is bound for Vigo, Spain,
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home to the largest
fishing port in Europe.
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Every year, more than
700,000 tons of catch
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are offloaded here.
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The fish are sorted,
sold and distributed
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to countries around the globe,
including the U. S.
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It’s a massive operation.
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High‐tech, spotlessly clean,
rigorously controlled.
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Every crate of fish is weighed,
catalogued, and barcoded,
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so buyers know exactly
when and where it was caught.
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(speaking Spanish)
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MARIANA:
That’s the theory, anyway.
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In reality, any one of the
hundreds of species on sale here
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could have been
transferred at sea
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from an illegal fishing vessel
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to a vessel carrying
the paperwork
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to make its cargo
look legitimate.
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(speaking Spanish)
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MARIANA: Once the contraband
fish has been mixed
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with a legal catch
in a ship's freezers,
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it’s impossible
to tell them apart.
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It's one common way
that illegal seafood
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gets laundered
into the legal supply chain.
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But I haven’t come
to Spain for the fish.
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I’ve come for the fishermen.
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The ones that have given Galicia
its rather notorious reputation.
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PETER: Galicia has always been
a smuggling portal for Europe.
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They've been involved in
trafficking not just of fish,
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but of drugs and tobacco
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and other illicit
products as well.
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The companies behind vessels
involved in the poaching
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of Patagonian
and Antarctic toothfish,
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they’re known
as the Galician Mafia.
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MARIANA: I want to find someone
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who's worked
on these illegal vessels
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and knows the secrets
of this dirty trade firsthand.
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After asking around a bit,
I meet a retired fisherman
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who says he’ll
give it to me straight.
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MARIANA: Perico is
a retired fisherman.
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He says he spent 35 years
working on Spanish vessels
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in the frigid North Atlantic.
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Perico tells me
that his career at sea
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was marked by constant
illegal activity.
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MARIANA: Mm‐hmm.
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MARIANA: But when I press Perico
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for the names of the worst
offenders, he clams up.
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MARIANA: Mm‐hmm.
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MARIANA: And there’s the rub.
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Spanish fishing is,
at its heart, a family business.
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A very big family business
that keeps its secrets close.
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But then, a new lead.
427
00:23:03,757 --> 00:23:06,093
Remember the Bandit 6?
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One of which the Sea Shepherd
chased for 110 days
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before the captain
purposely sank his boat?
430
00:23:12,474 --> 00:23:16,103
Well, I was able to connect
with a local journalist
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who has access to
a treasure trove of documents
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relating to the investigation
of those vessels
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and the ensuing court case.
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If I want to find a source
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00:23:26,155 --> 00:23:28,407
deeper in this
illegal fishing world,
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this could be my chance.
437
00:23:31,118 --> 00:23:34,330
How does the fact that
we're talking about these,
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you know, very wealthy companies
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with fleets of boats
and fancy websites
440
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and a lot of lawyers, how does
that complicate matters for you
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in terms of being a journalist
and investigating this?
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MAN: I have to be careful,
and, uh...
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MARIANA: Can you tell me
a little bit
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about what all these
documents are?
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00:23:54,099 --> 00:23:56,602
MAN: Those documents
are the outcome
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00:23:56,602 --> 00:23:59,647
of the, probably
the best investigation
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00:23:59,647 --> 00:24:01,023
on illegal fishing.
448
00:24:01,023 --> 00:24:02,650
8,000 pages.
449
00:24:02,650 --> 00:24:03,859
MARIANA: 8,000 pages?
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00:24:03,859 --> 00:24:05,402
MAN: 8,000 pages.
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00:24:05,402 --> 00:24:08,447
The investigation
was led by Interpol,
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together with
the Spanish Guardia Civil,
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00:24:11,825 --> 00:24:13,077
on the Bandit 6.
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MARIANA: I mean, they were
caught red‐handed.
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There's plenty of evidence
that they were,
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what they were doing
was illegal, right?
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00:24:18,082 --> 00:24:21,752
MAN: Everything is proved here,
in all the documents,
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that those Bandit 6
were committing crimes.
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MARIANA: Incredibly,
the Spanish Supreme Court
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overturned the case against
the shipowners of the Bandit 6.
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00:24:32,638 --> 00:24:33,973
They decided that,
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00:24:33,973 --> 00:24:36,684
while the Bandit 6
did commit illegal activity,
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the courts did not have
jurisdiction,
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because those
illegal acts occurred
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in international waters.
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MAN: Here, we have
all the coordinators
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of the fishing activities
from Galicia.
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MARIANA: Wow. So, these
are the names and contacts?
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MAN: Yeah.
MARIANA: All the coordinators?
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MAN: That’s it. That's it.
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00:24:54,118 --> 00:24:55,494
MARIANA: Wow, this is great.
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MAN: And in this all documents,
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00:24:57,079 --> 00:24:59,623
you have all the phone numbers
and some emails of those guys.
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So you can try.
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00:25:01,083 --> 00:25:03,252
MARIANA: So they’ve all
actually been indicted, these?
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00:25:03,252 --> 00:25:07,089
MAN: Yeah. We have the name
of some offshore companies
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used by those guys
of the Bandit 6.
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MARIANA: There’s evidence of
money laundering in this one.
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00:25:12,678 --> 00:25:14,304
MAN: Yeah, no doubt about it.
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MARIANA: And here
you have the whole list
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of the crewmen from this boat.
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You have the captain,
the chief engineer, the cook,
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and then all the officers.
484
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There’s phone numbers
for this one, too.
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00:25:26,734 --> 00:25:32,406
Passport numbers,
lots of photos, bank accounts.
486
00:25:32,406 --> 00:25:34,533
There’s just so much here.
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You see that the chief engineer
and the officer and the captain
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are all Spanish.
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And there are Spanish numbers
associated with them.
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This is big‐‐
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00:25:43,959 --> 00:25:45,961
lists of names and numbers
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00:25:45,961 --> 00:25:49,173
of people directly involved
in the Bandit 6
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and who might know what illegal
activities are still ongoing.
494
00:25:54,178 --> 00:25:56,263
(phone ringing)
495
00:26:11,987 --> 00:26:14,114
(beep beep beep)
496
00:26:14,114 --> 00:26:15,699
MARIANA: Calling another person
497
00:26:15,699 --> 00:26:18,327
that we know worked
one of the Bandit 6 boats.
498
00:26:30,047 --> 00:26:31,465
(beep beep beep)
499
00:26:31,465 --> 00:26:32,341
MARIANA: He hung up.
500
00:26:39,181 --> 00:26:40,307
MARIANA: Okay.
501
00:26:40,307 --> 00:26:42,559
MAN: No, no, no, no, no. No, no.
502
00:26:42,559 --> 00:26:43,685
(ringing)
503
00:26:43,685 --> 00:26:44,895
MARIANA:
Pick up, pick up, pick up.
504
00:26:50,776 --> 00:26:51,902
MARIANA: Two and half hours now,
505
00:26:51,902 --> 00:26:53,612
we’ve been making
call after call.
506
00:26:53,612 --> 00:26:54,613
(ringing)
507
00:27:20,556 --> 00:27:21,765
¿Hola?
508
00:27:36,446 --> 00:27:40,868
MARIANA: So, today,
this afternoon, here in Vigo.
509
00:27:40,868 --> 00:27:41,743
Great.
510
00:27:44,580 --> 00:27:47,374
I finally secured
a face‐to‐face meeting
511
00:27:47,374 --> 00:27:51,169
with a former crew member
from a Bandit 6 fishing boat.
512
00:27:51,169 --> 00:27:55,007
He’s texted me a location
on the outskirts of the city.
513
00:27:58,719 --> 00:28:00,387
I think this is it.
514
00:28:00,387 --> 00:28:02,097
Okay, here we are.
515
00:28:02,097 --> 00:28:04,808
♪ ♪
516
00:28:04,808 --> 00:28:06,268
I think it’s here.
517
00:28:06,268 --> 00:28:12,566
♪ ♪
518
00:28:12,566 --> 00:28:18,822
♪ ♪
519
00:28:18,822 --> 00:28:25,078
♪ ♪
520
00:28:25,078 --> 00:28:30,292
♪ ♪
521
00:28:30,292 --> 00:28:31,752
¿Hola?
522
00:28:31,752 --> 00:28:34,338
♪ ♪
523
00:28:34,338 --> 00:28:35,464
¿Hola?
524
00:28:35,464 --> 00:28:39,051
♪ ♪
525
00:28:43,305 --> 00:28:46,183
♪ ♪
526
00:29:06,912 --> 00:29:08,372
MARIANA:
The man I'm talking to‐‐
527
00:29:08,372 --> 00:29:10,082
we’ll call him Luis‐‐
528
00:29:10,082 --> 00:29:13,001
spent time working on one
of the Bandit 6 boats,
529
00:29:13,001 --> 00:29:15,587
as well as dozens
of other Spanish vessels
530
00:29:15,587 --> 00:29:17,172
throughout his career.
531
00:29:17,172 --> 00:29:20,801
He's my key to understanding
how illegal fishing works
532
00:29:20,801 --> 00:29:22,803
at an international level.
533
00:30:12,811 --> 00:30:13,854
MARIANA: Wow.
534
00:30:19,443 --> 00:30:22,404
MARIANA: We have no knowledge
that any of the ships we boarded
535
00:30:22,404 --> 00:30:25,824
had double bottoms
or illegal nets.
536
00:30:25,824 --> 00:30:28,785
But it sounds like that was
standard operating procedure
537
00:30:28,785 --> 00:30:31,913
on the Spanish ships
that Luis worked on.
538
00:30:31,913 --> 00:30:35,917
And that wasn’t the only way
they skirted regulations.
539
00:31:38,688 --> 00:31:39,648
MARIANA: Mm‐hmm.
540
00:32:13,682 --> 00:32:14,766
MARIANA: Mm‐hmm.
541
00:32:17,811 --> 00:32:20,689
Luis explains that within
the fishing industry,
542
00:32:20,689 --> 00:32:24,109
it’s the shipowners who have
the power to make change.
543
00:32:24,109 --> 00:32:25,861
But those are the same folks
544
00:32:25,861 --> 00:32:28,905
who are profiting the most
off the status quo.
545
00:32:57,434 --> 00:32:58,768
MARIANA: He’s right.
546
00:32:58,768 --> 00:33:00,437
The real issue is not the need
547
00:33:00,437 --> 00:33:03,857
for more regulations
or enforcement.
548
00:33:03,857 --> 00:33:08,695
It’s our relationship
to the oceans themselves.
549
00:33:08,695 --> 00:33:12,657
I've been so focused on trying
to understand the black market‐‐
550
00:33:12,657 --> 00:33:14,034
boat owners exploiting
551
00:33:14,034 --> 00:33:16,786
a disorganized
international system,
552
00:33:16,786 --> 00:33:19,164
fishermen using altered nets,
553
00:33:19,164 --> 00:33:22,292
captains turning off
AIS trackers‐‐
554
00:33:22,292 --> 00:33:24,711
that I’ve overlooked
the obvious.
555
00:33:24,711 --> 00:33:30,050
A bigger, more devastating truth
about industrial fishing.
556
00:33:30,050 --> 00:33:34,846
SYLVIA EARLE: The impact of
illegal fishing is enormous,
557
00:33:34,846 --> 00:33:38,433
but it is relatively small
558
00:33:38,433 --> 00:33:43,855
compared to the impact
of legal fishing.
559
00:33:43,855 --> 00:33:46,149
MARIANA: Sylvia Earle
is an oceanographer
560
00:33:46,149 --> 00:33:48,401
and the founder of Mission Blue,
561
00:33:48,401 --> 00:33:52,155
a non‐profit dedicated
to protecting our oceans.
562
00:33:52,155 --> 00:33:55,033
She doesn't mince words
when it comes to her opinions
563
00:33:55,033 --> 00:33:57,327
about the global
fishing industry.
564
00:33:57,327 --> 00:34:03,291
SYLVIA: This is the biggest
wildlife trade on the planet.
565
00:34:03,291 --> 00:34:06,086
We’re waging war on the ocean.
566
00:34:06,086 --> 00:34:08,880
And we're doing it
with a big smile on our face,
567
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:13,551
thinking, "This is great.
We have technologies now
568
00:34:13,551 --> 00:34:15,637
that can go to places
we couldn't go before,
569
00:34:15,637 --> 00:34:18,974
finding fish that were
not accessible before."
570
00:34:21,142 --> 00:34:24,020
MARIANA: Her words echo
so much of what I've seen
571
00:34:24,020 --> 00:34:26,189
over the last few months.
572
00:34:26,189 --> 00:34:28,358
PETER: Shrimp is
maybe not even 1/10
573
00:34:28,358 --> 00:34:29,734
of what the catch is, right?
574
00:34:29,734 --> 00:34:32,404
And that's pretty typical
of a shrimp fishery,
575
00:34:32,404 --> 00:34:35,282
this enormous amount of bycatch.
576
00:34:35,282 --> 00:34:36,658
I, I always refer to bycatch
577
00:34:36,658 --> 00:34:39,703
as the invisible victims
of industrial fishing.
578
00:34:39,703 --> 00:34:43,456
MARIANA: The invisible victims
of industrial fishing.
579
00:34:43,456 --> 00:34:45,959
In other words,
a waste of animal life
580
00:34:45,959 --> 00:34:49,546
like I’ve never seen before.
581
00:34:49,546 --> 00:34:53,675
It's difficult to watch
and even harder to fathom
582
00:34:53,675 --> 00:34:58,179
that it's all legal,
happening every day and night
583
00:34:58,179 --> 00:35:00,890
on trawlers around the globe.
584
00:35:00,890 --> 00:35:02,309
NEWS ANCHOR:
The stocks of tropical tuna
585
00:35:02,309 --> 00:35:04,936
in the Indian Ocean
have been overfished.
586
00:35:04,936 --> 00:35:07,022
NEWS ANCHOR: Human exploitation
of the world's oceans
587
00:35:07,022 --> 00:35:08,565
is passing the point
of no return.
588
00:35:08,565 --> 00:35:09,899
ANNOUNCER: Endless Shrimp.
589
00:35:09,899 --> 00:35:11,359
It's as much as you like,
any way you like.
590
00:35:11,359 --> 00:35:13,028
NEWS ANCHOR: A huge wealth
of creatures and habitats
591
00:35:13,028 --> 00:35:16,072
are under threat,
decimated by overfishing.
592
00:35:16,072 --> 00:35:18,408
ANNOUNCER: Our awesome,
mouthwatering snow crab dinner,
593
00:35:18,408 --> 00:35:19,409
for only $9.99.
594
00:35:19,409 --> 00:35:20,827
ANNOUNCER:
Have it all this summer
595
00:35:20,827 --> 00:35:22,287
with the Crab Daddy Feast.
596
00:35:38,637 --> 00:35:41,264
PAUL: Industrial and commercial
fishing is scaled up so much
597
00:35:41,264 --> 00:35:45,185
that it really is a lot more
like mining than fishing.
598
00:35:45,185 --> 00:35:46,895
These nets are enormous.
599
00:35:46,895 --> 00:35:48,521
And they just take everything.
600
00:35:48,521 --> 00:35:53,902
All the fish within a kilometer
out of the water all at once.
601
00:35:53,902 --> 00:35:59,741
You’re literally mining
the ocean of fish, of all life.
602
00:35:59,741 --> 00:36:02,410
SYLVIA: We have the capacity
to deplete wildlife
603
00:36:02,410 --> 00:36:08,249
on a scale
that is unprecedented.
604
00:36:08,249 --> 00:36:11,503
Technology is available
to almost everyone everywhere
605
00:36:11,503 --> 00:36:15,423
to find, capture, consume,
or market ocean wildlife
606
00:36:15,423 --> 00:36:17,217
on a scale that is simply,
607
00:36:17,217 --> 00:36:20,053
no matter how you want
to measure it,
608
00:36:20,053 --> 00:36:23,348
it’s not sustainable.
609
00:36:23,348 --> 00:36:26,434
MARIANA: It’s this future
that has me worried.
610
00:36:26,434 --> 00:36:29,312
But even today, there are
plenty of warning signs
611
00:36:29,312 --> 00:36:31,272
if you know where to look.
612
00:36:31,272 --> 00:36:34,776
The experts I spoke with pointed
me to the coast of Ghana,
613
00:36:34,776 --> 00:36:37,487
where a local fishing community
has been transformed
614
00:36:37,487 --> 00:36:40,323
in ways I’m told
I won’t believe.
615
00:36:40,323 --> 00:36:42,367
♪ ♪
616
00:36:42,367 --> 00:36:43,326
(beep)
(woman shouts)
617
00:36:51,543 --> 00:36:57,590
♪ ♪
618
00:36:57,590 --> 00:36:59,259
♪ ♪
619
00:36:59,259 --> 00:37:00,927
MARIANA: We got a call
late last night
620
00:37:00,927 --> 00:37:03,638
saying to be at the port
at 5 a. m. this morning
621
00:37:03,638 --> 00:37:07,934
because they had something
that they wanted to show us.
622
00:37:07,934 --> 00:37:09,477
Um...
623
00:37:09,477 --> 00:37:13,356
we're still not sure what
we'll be able to film or see,
624
00:37:13,356 --> 00:37:17,026
but all we know is that
we're meeting this person
625
00:37:17,026 --> 00:37:19,988
in about five minutes.
626
00:37:19,988 --> 00:37:23,700
The call came from a local
fisherman turned crime boss
627
00:37:23,700 --> 00:37:26,828
who's known simply
as the Chairman.
628
00:37:26,828 --> 00:37:29,414
I was introduced to him
by a contact of mine,
629
00:37:29,414 --> 00:37:32,625
but the Chairman has been
difficult to pin down.
630
00:37:35,462 --> 00:37:39,382
I see a couple of boats
with lights here.
631
00:37:39,382 --> 00:37:41,468
People working inside.
Let's check.
632
00:37:41,468 --> 00:37:42,761
(unbuckles seatbelt)
633
00:37:47,348 --> 00:37:48,224
(car door slams)
634
00:37:51,019 --> 00:37:57,317
♪ ♪
635
00:37:57,317 --> 00:38:01,362
♪ ♪
636
00:38:01,362 --> 00:38:02,781
Over here?
637
00:38:02,781 --> 00:38:03,907
♪ ♪
638
00:38:03,907 --> 00:38:04,908
(man talking)
639
00:38:04,908 --> 00:38:06,534
MARIANA: Is this it?
640
00:38:06,534 --> 00:38:08,453
(man talking)
641
00:38:10,705 --> 00:38:11,790
MARIANA: I guess this is it.
642
00:38:11,790 --> 00:38:13,208
Yeah, come in?
643
00:38:16,878 --> 00:38:20,507
Looks like that’s
the Chairman on the phone.
644
00:38:20,507 --> 00:38:22,383
His name is Justice.
645
00:38:25,386 --> 00:38:27,806
MARIANA: Yeah, very fast.
We're very fast.
646
00:38:27,806 --> 00:38:29,432
Okay, we have to go, guys!
647
00:38:29,432 --> 00:38:33,061
♪ ♪
648
00:38:33,061 --> 00:38:34,771
We pass by one fishing boat
649
00:38:34,771 --> 00:38:39,359
that strangely doesn’t have
any fishing gear.
650
00:38:39,359 --> 00:38:42,195
They are clearly unhappy
about our cameras.
651
00:38:42,195 --> 00:38:46,991
♪ ♪
652
00:38:46,991 --> 00:38:49,828
♪ ♪
653
00:38:49,828 --> 00:38:53,581
This is one of the boats
that came out from sea today?
654
00:38:53,581 --> 00:38:55,166
Can we stop there
and talk to them?
655
00:38:55,166 --> 00:38:58,837
It’s another fishing boat,
again with no fishing gear.
656
00:39:01,756 --> 00:39:08,555
♪ ♪
657
00:39:08,555 --> 00:39:11,057
MARIANA: Oh, wow.
658
00:39:11,057 --> 00:39:12,225
Look at that.
659
00:39:12,225 --> 00:39:17,313
It’s all big blocks
of frozen fish.
660
00:39:17,313 --> 00:39:19,899
So the whole boat is fill,
is all full of that?
661
00:39:19,899 --> 00:39:22,318
CHAIRMAN: Yes.
662
00:39:22,318 --> 00:39:25,029
MARIANA: These Ghanaians
used to fish for themselves,
663
00:39:25,029 --> 00:39:27,031
but an influx
of foreign trawlers
664
00:39:27,031 --> 00:39:29,576
has caused fish stocks
to plummet.
665
00:39:29,576 --> 00:39:33,037
So, now, in a perverse twist
of their livelihood,
666
00:39:33,037 --> 00:39:36,749
these fishermen go out to sea
and buy blocks of fish
667
00:39:36,749 --> 00:39:40,879
that have been caught and frozen
by the trawlers themselves.
668
00:39:41,963 --> 00:39:42,964
This came out from the sea?
669
00:39:42,964 --> 00:39:44,173
CHAIRMAN: Yeah.
670
00:39:44,173 --> 00:39:45,466
MARIANA: From the trawlers?
CHAIRMAN: Yeah.
671
00:39:46,759 --> 00:39:48,094
MARIANA: Yeah.
672
00:39:48,094 --> 00:39:49,554
So they would throw it away,
and instead...
673
00:39:49,554 --> 00:39:50,805
CHAIRMAN: Yeah.
674
00:39:50,805 --> 00:39:52,098
MARIANA: ...the fishermen
go out and pick it.
675
00:39:52,098 --> 00:39:53,349
CHAIRMAN: Yeah.
676
00:39:53,349 --> 00:39:55,602
MARIANA: How far
are the Chinese vessels?
677
00:39:55,602 --> 00:39:56,644
CHAIRMAN: 12 hours.
678
00:39:56,644 --> 00:39:58,813
MARIANA: 12 hours to get there?
679
00:40:00,607 --> 00:40:02,984
Through forces
beyond his control,
680
00:40:02,984 --> 00:40:06,362
the Chairman has been dragged
into an illegal seafood trade
681
00:40:06,362 --> 00:40:08,615
known as Saiko.
682
00:40:10,825 --> 00:40:12,744
You have been working
as a fisherman
683
00:40:12,744 --> 00:40:14,495
for a very long time.
684
00:40:14,495 --> 00:40:16,039
MARIANA: You’re originally
an artisanal fisher.
685
00:40:16,039 --> 00:40:17,165
CHAIRMAN: Yeah, yeah.
686
00:40:17,165 --> 00:40:19,626
MARIANA: And so,
since this is illegal,
687
00:40:19,626 --> 00:40:21,669
why did you agree to talk to us?
688
00:40:21,669 --> 00:40:22,545
CHAIRMAN: Well...
689
00:40:26,966 --> 00:40:28,092
MARIANA: It’s not.
690
00:40:29,802 --> 00:40:30,970
MARIANA: Right, that it
helps a lot of people.
691
00:40:30,970 --> 00:40:32,013
CHAIRMAN: Yeah.
692
00:40:32,013 --> 00:40:33,348
MARIANA: So, what do you
say to people
693
00:40:33,348 --> 00:40:35,642
who say what the trawlers
are doing
694
00:40:35,642 --> 00:40:37,185
is that they are
destroying the oceans,
695
00:40:37,185 --> 00:40:39,020
they're killing all this fish,
696
00:40:39,020 --> 00:40:40,396
and you are
contributing to that
697
00:40:40,396 --> 00:40:42,565
because you are buying
this bycatch?
698
00:40:46,194 --> 00:40:47,153
MARIANA: Right.
699
00:40:53,409 --> 00:40:54,285
MARIANA: Right.
700
00:40:59,582 --> 00:41:02,585
MARIANA: The reality
is even more depressing.
701
00:41:02,585 --> 00:41:06,172
What started out as foreign
trawlers selling their bycatch
702
00:41:06,172 --> 00:41:09,676
has become so established
and so profitable
703
00:41:09,676 --> 00:41:11,302
that many foreign ships
704
00:41:11,302 --> 00:41:15,098
are now purposely targeting
local fish, which, of course,
705
00:41:15,098 --> 00:41:19,435
has only made
the overfishing problem worse.
706
00:41:19,435 --> 00:41:23,856
This is the trickle‐down effect
of our global fishing industry‐‐
707
00:41:23,856 --> 00:41:28,027
a local population so powerless
to stop the overfishing
708
00:41:28,027 --> 00:41:31,823
that it’s now been forced
to embrace a black market.
709
00:41:31,823 --> 00:41:34,659
(crowd murmur)
710
00:41:34,659 --> 00:41:35,827
Oh, wow.
So, this is all the...
711
00:41:35,827 --> 00:41:36,869
CHAIRMAN: Yes. Yeah.
712
00:41:36,869 --> 00:41:38,079
This is the Saiko fish.
713
00:41:38,079 --> 00:41:39,455
MARIANA: Another one there.
714
00:41:39,455 --> 00:41:42,709
Make no mistake about what
you’re looking at here.
715
00:41:42,709 --> 00:41:47,588
This is a fishing town that now
survives on frozen fish.
716
00:41:47,588 --> 00:41:49,173
I mean, it’s incredible.
717
00:41:49,173 --> 00:41:51,884
You look around, and all of it
is basically Saiko.
718
00:41:51,884 --> 00:41:56,681
♪ ♪
719
00:41:56,681 --> 00:42:00,268
♪ ♪
720
00:42:00,268 --> 00:42:02,061
You can see, it's just
boat after boat,
721
00:42:02,061 --> 00:42:03,730
and all of them
are filled with fish,
722
00:42:03,730 --> 00:42:07,942
and they’re bringing
all the fish now to shore.
723
00:42:07,942 --> 00:42:11,779
They cover it with blankets to
keep it cold, to keep it frozen.
724
00:42:11,779 --> 00:42:13,531
Oh, wow! Look at that!
725
00:42:13,531 --> 00:42:14,991
Holy (bleep).
726
00:42:16,868 --> 00:42:18,578
That is insane!
727
00:42:18,578 --> 00:42:21,372
So much.
728
00:42:21,372 --> 00:42:23,082
So you can see
how big this boat is.
729
00:42:23,082 --> 00:42:24,584
CHAIRMAN: Yeah, yeah.
730
00:42:24,584 --> 00:42:27,503
MARIANA: And then every single
one of these, basically, holds,
731
00:42:27,503 --> 00:42:30,673
is filled, filled, filled
with frozen fish.
732
00:42:30,673 --> 00:42:31,549
CHAIRMAN: Yes.
733
00:42:53,905 --> 00:42:56,365
MARIANA: Yeah, it’s out.
It's open.
734
00:42:56,365 --> 00:43:01,829
♪ ♪
735
00:43:01,829 --> 00:43:03,790
PAUL: We can’t do this forever.
736
00:43:03,790 --> 00:43:07,752
There will come a point
where we don’t have fish.
737
00:43:07,752 --> 00:43:09,378
And the people that will suffer
738
00:43:09,378 --> 00:43:11,339
are the people that go out
to fish every day
739
00:43:11,339 --> 00:43:13,633
to feed their families.
740
00:43:13,633 --> 00:43:15,760
But it won't be the owners
of the companies
741
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:16,844
that took all the fish.
742
00:43:16,844 --> 00:43:18,846
They’ll just go
do something else.
743
00:43:29,941 --> 00:43:33,027
MARIANA: I'm almost embarrassed
to admit how blind I've been
744
00:43:33,027 --> 00:43:36,989
to the ugly truth about
our global fishing industry.
745
00:43:36,989 --> 00:43:40,952
But I can’t unsee
what I’ve seen on this journey.
746
00:43:40,952 --> 00:43:44,205
The industry needs to change.
747
00:43:44,205 --> 00:43:46,040
We all do.
748
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,502
SYLVIA: Taking wild animals
from the ocean
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and turning it into money
or products...
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there’s a cost.
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There’s a cost to everyone.
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It’s not free.
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♪ ♪
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