1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,360 Over 300 thousand people at the canonisation. 4 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,280 I am a mystery even to myself. Padre Pio. 5 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:51,240 The Vatican, 2002. 6 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:55,040 Isn't rejoicing in the Cross precisely 7 00:00:56,160 --> 00:01:00,640 what was so distinctive of Padre Pio? 8 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,800 How current is the spirituality of the cross 9 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:10,240 that this humble Capuchin of our times lived! 10 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:18,160 The canonization with the largest participation ever seen. 11 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,080 This is the story of all the false mystics... 12 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,320 that have fallen into eroticism. 13 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,440 The biggest scam in the history of the Church. 14 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,840 The Mistery of Padre Pio. 15 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:57,960 The roots. 16 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,880 It's here, in Pietrelcina, where Padre Pio was born. 17 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,200 It's here, in Pietrelcina, where Padre Pio grew up 18 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,240 and spent his teenage years. 19 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,280 His father, Horacio Forgione, 20 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,040 would go out to the fields with a donkey, 21 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,240 a sheep and a little pig. 22 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,280 His mother, Peppa, would cook a dish of polenta. 23 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,160 He would wolf it down. 24 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:29,840 They wouldn't even have any bread. 25 00:02:31,920 --> 00:02:35,440 The young Francisco divided his time between home, 26 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,320 the church and the fields. 27 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:45,040 Behind this door, this giant of saintliness was born. 28 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,040 Stigmata. 29 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:54,800 From the Latin 'stigma', supernaturally imprinted mark 30 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,760 on the bodies of some saints in a state of ecstasy, 31 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,160 as a symbol of spiritual participation 32 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:01,680 to the Passion of Christ. 33 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:15,000 It all started when Padre Pio received the stigmata, 34 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,560 on 20th September, 1918. 35 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:23,120 According to Gemelli, Padre Pio's stigmata were caused by hysteria. 36 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:27,080 When Padre Gemelli visited Padre Pio, he said 37 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,400 that it was a phenomenon of hysteria. 38 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:35,240 The wounds he had could not be explained by science. 39 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:41,200 Freud, for example, spoke of several similar cases. 40 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:47,680 It seems that this wasn't the case at all with Padre Pio's stigmata. 41 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,600 He was basically compared to a charlatan. 42 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,080 In front of Padre Pio, he dared to say that he was a psychopath 43 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:57,560 who self-harmed. 44 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,200 To say that Father Gemelli 45 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,840 declared war on Padre Pio is improper. 46 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:05,840 He was a socialist, an atheist, 47 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,920 who later converted to the Christian faith. 48 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:13,000 He became a doctor and was well-regarded within the Vatican. 49 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,680 When he went to Rome, he wrote his report 50 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:31,920 saying that Padre Pio had provoked the stigmata himself. 51 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,280 "Padre Pio's stigmata are false", he said. 52 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,680 He was considered an authority in the Catholic world. 53 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:43,440 With the case of Padre Pio, Gemelli became a positivist doctor again, 54 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,440 who believed that the stigmata 55 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,360 could not be a real phenomenon. 56 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,840 Gemelli was a very good friend of Pope Pius XI. 57 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,800 This relationship has also weighed heavily 58 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:59,800 in the judgement of the visitors 59 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,040 and in the declarations of the Holy Office. 60 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:08,840 When Padre Pio died, 61 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,480 the measures taken by the Holy Office were still in place. 62 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,760 The Holy Office denies any allusion to 63 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,640 the supernatural in the incidents attributed to Padre Pio. 64 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,720 Soul Reader. 65 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,720 I went to the confessional where Padre Pio was 66 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:43,120 and I knelt down on the prie-dieu with him sitting opposite me. 67 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:48,720 He took me by the hand and said: "Joey, confess your sins". 68 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,240 To be honest, I was sad, 69 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,000 because I wasn't leading a satisfactory life. 70 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:55,800 I was stunned, 71 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,200 when in perfect English he said to me: 72 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:02,320 "Remember when you were in a bar with a woman named Barbara? 73 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,480 Do you remember the sins you committed?". 74 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,600 And I insist, in perfect English, he started telling me 75 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,720 all the people I had been with, 76 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,360 the places I had been and the sins I had committed. 77 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,160 "Are you repentant?". And I answered: 78 00:06:16,280 --> 00:06:18,360 "Yes, I am, Padre Pio". 79 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,760 Then he granted me absolution. 80 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:25,160 My eyes were whirling in my head and I started to rub them like this. 81 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,640 My head was throbbing and I was still rubbing my eyes. 82 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,360 When suddenly, my mind cleared totally 83 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,760 and he placed his stigmatised hand on my lips. 84 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:37,200 I kissed his stigmata 85 00:06:37,280 --> 00:06:39,600 and he gave me a light slap on the face. 86 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:44,000 "A bit of patience and courage and you'll be fine", he assured me. 87 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,840 I took my First Communion with Padre Pio 88 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,160 and I have taken confession with him many times. 89 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,080 To be honest, he was quite strict. 90 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,680 I missed Mass one day and later, in our dialect, he said to me: 91 00:07:03,840 --> 00:07:08,080 "Boy, you should know that if people understood the importance of mass, 92 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,720 we would need the police outside all the churches. 93 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:13,720 Find someone else to take confession with!" 94 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:15,600 And he threw me out of the confessional. 95 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,480 Padre Pio was strict with those penitents whom he could tell 96 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:24,480 were only curious or who weren't repentant for their sins. 97 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,560 If that was the case he'd throw you out. 98 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,400 If you want to be a spiritual child of Padre Pio, 99 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:36,200 you have to really think about it. It's not easy. 100 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:42,040 You could go two or three times, but he would only grant absolution 101 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,800 when he could see that you were completely repentant. 102 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,880 He could tell when people were trying to trick him and, 103 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:01,680 like the Devil, he would dismiss them, without giving them importance. 104 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,600 He was extraordinarily charitable 105 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,120 and extremely severe with sin, 106 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,760 with everything that offended Christ. 107 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,720 He spent many hours in the confessional. 108 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,360 In the morning he took confession from women, and from men in the afternoon. 109 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:36,640 He had a charisma. He knew what was in the heart of everyone, 110 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,720 regardless of which language they spoke. 111 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:49,960 He was capable of seeing into the deepest part of the human soul. 112 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,480 San Giovanni Rotondo was where the conversions took place. 113 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,840 And these conversions weren't caused by a magic wand, 114 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:57,960 but by the prayer and suffering 115 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,280 that Padre Pio offered the Lord every day. 116 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:02,880 He was very sweet and tender with those who, 117 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,480 even though they had committed serious sins, 118 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,240 were truly repentant. 119 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,560 He had a predilection for the most tenacious sinners, 120 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,640 who initially rejected conversion, 121 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:22,080 or who were enemies of the Church, communists or Masons. 122 00:09:27,680 --> 00:09:30,440 He lived simply. 123 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,320 He had a kind nature, 124 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:39,400 but if he saw someone doing something wrong, 125 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:41,720 he would tell them off, 126 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:44,880 although the penitent always came back. 127 00:09:48,560 --> 00:09:51,560 People say that Padre Pio was strict, 128 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:56,600 severe, even a bad person, 129 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:00,960 because he would kick you out without absolving you, 130 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,760 but people also say that Padre Pio was sweet. 131 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:11,200 I saw Padre Pio every day 132 00:10:11,680 --> 00:10:13,640 because I was his altar boy. 133 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:17,480 He knew the date of my First Communion. 134 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,960 The day before, encouraged by my dad, I went to take confession with him. 135 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,560 But I had observed, with some fear, 136 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,720 how he sometimes threw people out of the confessional. 137 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,320 I thought: "What if Padre Pio won't grant me absolution?". 138 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,880 So sensibly, I went to take confession with another priest. 139 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:38,680 After the penance, my father came and warned me: 140 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,000 "Padre Pio is waiting to take your first confession". 141 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:47,320 I went there, hesitant and worried, because I didn't know what to say. 142 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,760 I knelt down and Padre Pio asked me: 143 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,080 "How long since your last confession?" 144 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:55,720 I didn't know how to answer. 145 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:57,840 He put his hand on my head and said: 146 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:02,240 "Then I'll see you tomorrow at five for your First Communion". 147 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:07,760 This man, who basically only had the confessional as his school, 148 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,240 wrote some exceptional things. 149 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:20,040 Whomever he had in front of him needed to be set straight. 150 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,920 With Padre Pio, confession was a beautiful moment, 151 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:29,920 because in the end you experienced a feeling of liberation 152 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,840 and lightness that I've never again felt throughout my whole life. 153 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:42,560 The Holy Office condemned Padre Pio with very serious words, 154 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,280 urging believers to abstain from visiting 155 00:11:46,560 --> 00:11:48,400 and communicating with him. 156 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,840 While the Holy Office condemned Padre Pio, 157 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:03,920 the world, and Italy in particular, was going through turbulent times. 158 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,360 Twins, out in the open. 159 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:19,720 Father Gemelli said he had examined the stigmata in detail, 160 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,640 which is totally false. 161 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:27,840 Gemelli wrote a report about Padre Pio's stigmata 162 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,400 without having examined them, and he was a doctor. 163 00:12:31,680 --> 00:12:36,560 He basically did it out of obedience 164 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:40,080 and abuse of authority, 165 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,240 insisting that he wanted to see the stigmata, 166 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,280 but Padre Pio told him no. 167 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:49,640 He didn't show the stigmata to Father Agostino Gemelli 168 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:54,360 because he didn't have authorisation from the Vatican. 169 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,560 He didn't just send his report to the Pope, 170 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:02,600 he also encouraged a fight against Padre Pio because he didn't like him. 171 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,480 Doctor Romanelli said that 172 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:09,960 if you put a finger on his hand, 173 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:14,200 one on his palm and one on the other side, they touched. 174 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,200 The stigmata are a great gift 175 00:13:19,680 --> 00:13:22,360 to be able to participate in the suffering of Christ. 176 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,920 They entail having five wounds on the body: 177 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:29,400 on the heart, hands and feet. 178 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:36,280 The stigma that caused Padre Pio the most pain 179 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,920 was on his right shoulder, where Jesus carried the cross. 180 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:44,480 When he died, they discovered that on that part of his body, Padre Pio 181 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,600 had a wound of ten centimetres in diameter. 182 00:13:49,560 --> 00:13:53,240 It was a call from God to help Christ 183 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,360 in the redemption of man through his own suffering. 184 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:04,440 When Padre Pio received the stigmata, antibiotics didn't exist. 185 00:14:04,680 --> 00:14:08,800 Despite this, the wounds that he carried for 50 years 186 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:12,640 never ever became infected. 187 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:19,080 He walked with difficulty, 188 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,080 because he did so on bleeding flesh. 189 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,400 It was inexplicable that he was continuously losing blood 190 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,120 and remained alive. 191 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:33,760 Padre Pio's whole life is a miracle of science. 192 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,960 It was the fact that he didn't even have scars. 193 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:51,000 As a doctor, I can't explain such a prolonged existence, 194 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,000 50 years, 195 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,520 of live stigmas. 196 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,240 The girls of Milan. 197 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:10,080 Two girls from Milan ran away from home, 198 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,160 leaving a note for their family. 199 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,800 Their dream was to meet Padre Pio 200 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,720 and to take confession and receive communion from him. 201 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:24,680 We were together in front of the communion altar 202 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:26,560 when Padre Pio arrived. 203 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:30,160 The girl next to me was very excited. 204 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,880 When Padre Pio was about to give her the communion wafer, he stopped. 205 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:38,920 He did the same with the other girl. He didn't give it to her either. 206 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,120 The girls broke down in tears 207 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,000 and one of them was brave enough to ask him: 208 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:48,120 "Padre Pio, why don't you want to give me communion?". 209 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,880 He answered: "Obedience to you parents above all". 210 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:57,720 Crying, they ran to the phone to call their mother: 211 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:02,080 "We disobeyed you by coming here. Forgive us, forgive us". 212 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,640 They came back the next morning 213 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:08,640 and only then would Padre Pio give them communion. 214 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:23,760 This is the case of Lea Padovani, the famous Italian actress, 215 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:27,800 friend of great directors such as Orson Welles, 216 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:29,520 Dino Risi, Vittorio de Sica... 217 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:34,000 She came out of her confession with Padre Pio greatly moved. 218 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:45,480 She was a victim of his ability to read people's consciences. 219 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,440 In fact, Padre Pio, without her even opening her mouth, 220 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:54,280 told her who she was with and how she felt about her adultery. 221 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:59,680 She went back several more times to take confession with him 222 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:04,000 and she actually became one of his spiritual daughters. 223 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:28,240 The others had fun with Padre Pio on the terrace or in the garden, 224 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,480 where they talked about everything: 225 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:39,720 politics, social and religious problems... 226 00:17:44,120 --> 00:17:46,120 The Convent. 227 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:52,400 Padre Pio's days were very simple and very intense. 228 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:03,360 He liked walking around the convent's garden 229 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:07,120 and joking with his brothers. 230 00:18:11,360 --> 00:18:15,240 Padre Pio was a lot of fun and very cheerful. 231 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,280 He loved being in the company of others. 232 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,960 He enjoyed telling jokes. 233 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,880 He had these friends, who every afternoon... 234 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:31,960 One would say: "What shall we do with these empty bottles?". 235 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:36,720 Another would answer: "Let's toss them onto the terrace". 236 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:44,760 "What if we hit a friar who's walking past on the head?". 237 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,920 "That's fine, one friar less", another would comment. 238 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,600 Padre Pio would get involved in the joke too. 239 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:59,040 He would get up and look over the railing, 240 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,720 then turn to the others and say: 241 00:19:04,120 --> 00:19:07,680 "Father Raffaelle is coming. 242 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:13,120 If you throw the bottle now and hit him on the head, 243 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,200 poor bottle!". 244 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,800 He had a cheerful, joyous personality. 245 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,800 He loved the plays they put on at the convent, 246 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,960 with the participation of the Third Order. 247 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:43,360 Padre Isidoro, a mediocre musician, 248 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:49,480 wanted Beniamino Gigli to sing a song he'd composed: 249 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:51,760 the Ave Maria. 250 00:19:52,360 --> 00:19:55,840 The friars didn't agree 251 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,920 and Beniamino Gigli, in order to appease Padre Isidoro, 252 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:03,120 finally sang the Ave Maria during Sunday mass. 253 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,000 Shortly after, Gigli died. 254 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,480 While they were having lunch, Padre Isidoro arrived. 255 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,560 As soon as he saw him, Padre Pio joked: 256 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,320 "Have you seen 257 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:22,400 Beniamino Gigli's autopsy result in the papers? 258 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:27,800 Do you know that in his stomach they found 259 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,160 Padre Isidoro's Ave Maria?". 260 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,320 Gemma's gaze. 261 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:50,160 The ophthalmologists assured me that my eyes didn't have pupils 262 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,080 and that I'd never be able to see. 263 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:59,320 I was very happy to travel to San Giovanni Rotondo 264 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,440 to take my First Communion. 265 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:07,120 When the train arrived in Apulia, 266 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,440 I started to see. 267 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,120 "Look, I can see the sea!" 268 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,600 On hearing me say 269 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,400 I could see a boat in the the distance, my grandma 270 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,200 looked at the see, trying to find the boat, 271 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,720 and it was there! 272 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:33,320 Once in San Giovanni Rotondo, 273 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,120 Padre Pio made the sign of the cross on my eyes. 274 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:47,400 When we were back home, the ophthalmologist examined my eyes 275 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:49,320 and said to my grandma: 276 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:53,400 "Madam, hasn't anyone ever told you that this girl has no pupils 277 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,760 and without them it's impossible to see?" 278 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,760 The next thing he did was take a pen out of his pocket 279 00:21:59,960 --> 00:22:02,400 and holding up a handkerchief, he asked me: 280 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,800 "Little girl, do you know what this is?" 281 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,200 "Yes, it's a piece of cloth", I answered. 282 00:22:08,360 --> 00:22:11,640 The doctor was amazed. 283 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,200 Then, surrendering to the evidence, he added: 284 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,600 "This girl has no pupils and you can't see without pupils. 285 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,440 This is a miracle!" 286 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,800 The Holy Office again prohibited believers 287 00:22:32,120 --> 00:22:35,920 from maintaining even epistolary contact with Padre Pio, 288 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,440 and accused Don Luis Orione of disobedience 289 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,480 for coming out in defence of the Capuchin friar. 290 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:57,000 One of the figures who defended Padre Pio in the 20s, 291 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:58,880 during the first persecution, 292 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,720 was Don Luis Orione, who's also a saint today. 293 00:23:06,120 --> 00:23:08,560 The big trap. 294 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:15,080 This defence led to numerous problems for Don Orione. 295 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,640 In fact, it was torture for him. 296 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:22,320 He was a saint defending another saint. 297 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,120 After a visit to the doctor, 298 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,600 he was diagnosed with syphilis. 299 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:35,120 Despite being an old man, like Padre Pio, he was accused 300 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,000 of committing sins with women. 301 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,640 He was sent away to a religious house in San Remo, 302 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,960 where he died stoically. 303 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,000 Some time later, a barber from Messina, 304 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:51,080 on his death bed, 305 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,200 asked to take confession in the presence of two witnesses. 306 00:23:54,360 --> 00:23:58,800 A member of the congregation of the Work of Divine Providence 307 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,000 had bribed the barber. 308 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:03,360 What did he do? 309 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,840 He made a small cut on the back of Don Orione's neck, 310 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,200 then he disinfected it 311 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:14,280 and finally cleaned it with a liquid containing syphilitic pus. 312 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,240 Mother. 313 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:40,760 Padre Pio said to him: 314 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,440 "Your shirt may be white but your soul is dirty". 315 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,320 They say that Beniamino Gigli, 316 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,600 kneeling down before him, started to cry like a little boy. 317 00:25:05,120 --> 00:25:07,360 From that moment, he never abandoned Padre Pio. 318 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:12,160 Padre Pio always asked Beniamino Gigli 319 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,760 to sing him the song "Mamma". 320 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,440 And he would start to cry, 321 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,160 because it reminded him of his mother. 322 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,400 While Beniamino Gigli sang, 323 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:25,840 Padre Pio would dry his eyes with a handkerchief and then leave. 324 00:25:27,120 --> 00:25:29,600 He was very close to his mother. 325 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,560 She was to Padre Pio, 326 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,440 a bit like the Virgin Mary was to Jesus. 327 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,080 She was one of the holy women. 328 00:25:54,680 --> 00:26:00,040 She wanted to kiss her son's stigmata, 329 00:26:00,120 --> 00:26:04,360 but he always said no to her, saying: 330 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:09,160 "It is the son who should kiss the hands of his mother 331 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,360 and not the other way around". 332 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:13,960 He always told her no, 333 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,680 but once his mother grabbed his hands and kissed him. 334 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,200 You'd think a mother would rejoice 335 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,160 in having a saintly son, 336 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,480 but not her. 337 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,800 She was a humble mother, 338 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,400 a mother whose presence was not obvious, 339 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,440 but who was the mother of us all. 340 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:44,040 In San Giovanni Rotondo, she was Aunt Giuseppa to everyone. 341 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,880 The mother was sick 342 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:55,000 and she came to the New Year's Eve function. 343 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,040 It was freezing cold 344 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,440 and she came dressed for summer. 345 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:08,000 She went outside and caught pneumonia. 346 00:27:08,360 --> 00:27:10,200 She died from it. 347 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,280 When someone said to him: 348 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,320 "Padre, you are a religious person 349 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,920 and you must accept it", 350 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,160 Padre Pio roared: 351 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,120 "It is my mother who has died 352 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,720 and I have to express my feelings! That's why I'm crying!" 353 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,560 And of course he cried. 354 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,800 With good reason he insisted: 355 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,440 "My mother! My mother has died!" 356 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,880 In the face of world fame and fascination 357 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,480 with this humble franciscan, 358 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:56,800 the Holy Office insists that nobody have contact with Padre Pio. 359 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,360 Algerian War. 360 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:13,840 One day, in Algeria, I received a postcard with only two lines: 361 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,840 "Life is a fight, 362 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,080 but one that leads you to the light". 363 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,520 Rebirth. 364 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:30,480 One afternoon, 365 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,720 a commando from the Algerian National Liberation Front 366 00:28:34,120 --> 00:28:37,600 attacked our camp and I was taken prisoner. 367 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:42,760 They stood me in front of a door with another five soldiers 368 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,600 and they shot us all. 369 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:50,680 Immediately I had an out of body experience. 370 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:58,160 I could see my bleeding body lying next to my fellow soldiers, 371 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,200 also murdered. 372 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,880 And suddenly I started rising up through a tunnel. 373 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,960 I saw Mary, amazingly beautiful with her robes of light. 374 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,760 And she welcomed me with a heavenly smile, 375 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,960 as she hugged and kissed me. 376 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:19,640 Behind her stood Jesus, and then, suddenly, 377 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,920 I sunk my nose into the dust, 378 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,400 back on earth with my fellow soldiers, 379 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,240 who really had died. 380 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:35,000 I saw that the door had been riddled with bullets, 381 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,320 just as my body had been, 382 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,680 because my uniform had holes in it, 383 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,520 both front and back. 384 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,360 I took my jacket off and went to see my captain, 385 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:49,880 who on seeing me shouted: 386 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,240 "You're a miracle!" 387 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,640 When the war ended, I saw Padre Pio in the hall at San Francisco 388 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:02,720 and he, as usual, waved at me and said only this: 389 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:08,280 "Oh, my son! How you made me suffer! 390 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,480 But what you saw was so beautiful!" 391 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,120 The popular uprising. 392 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,360 What happened? 393 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,800 When the inhabitants of San Giovanni Rotondo 394 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:52,080 heard that Padre Pio was being forced to leave, 395 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,120 a riot broke out. 396 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,440 Two thousand people gathered outside the convent, 397 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:04,080 including the authorities, the police and the mayor, 398 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,560 to stop them from taking Padre Pio away. 399 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:12,280 He went down to the square with the convent superior, 400 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,240 they talked and debated, 401 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,920 but the authorities and the people never backed down. 402 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:20,640 Then, very slowly, 403 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,000 Padre Pio and the superior walked back 404 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,400 to the little door that was the entrance to the convent. 405 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,480 Once there, 406 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,760 they entered the door and closed it. 407 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,840 I wish they hadn't done that, 408 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,960 because the people got hold of a tree trunk 409 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:42,640 and broke the door down. 410 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,080 In this letter to Francesco Morcaldi, 411 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,600 the mayor of San Giovanni Rotondo, 412 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,560 Padre Pio voices his concerns 413 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,040 over reprisals 414 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,800 against the citizens who opposed his being moved 415 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,480 and says he prays for them. 416 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,760 This is the creature that Providence, 417 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,600 with your help, has created. 418 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:14,840 Here she is. 419 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,720 Admire her and bless her along with my Lord, our Father. 420 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,920 A seed has been sown in the earth 421 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,480 and with His love it shall grow. 422 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,000 Do not deny us your help. 423 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,000 Join us in our mission to relieve human suffering. 424 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:42,520 I arrived in San Giovanni Rotondo after Padre Pio called me, 425 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:49,200 on 23rd September, 1955, 426 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,280 six months before, 427 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,320 to prepare the inauguration of the Home to Relieve Suffering 428 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,720 in 1956. 429 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:01,840 Relief House 5 May 1956 430 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,920 When the day of the inauguration came, 431 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,400 on 5th of May,1956, 432 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:22,120 I was four and my father took me and my sister. 433 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:23,960 There was a real party atmosphere, 434 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,120 especially when Padre Pio came by in his car 435 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:27,720 and everyone cheered and clapped. 436 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,840 When Padre Pio came up with the idea 437 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,200 for a hospital in San Giovanni Rotondo, 438 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,040 near the convent, 439 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,680 it wasn't considered feasible. 440 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:09,560 It was only able to be built thanks to the Providence plan. 441 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:16,040 Imagine a big hospital in the mountains. 442 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:17,680 It seemed simply crazy 443 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,760 and I think that Barbara Ward thought the same: 444 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,440 "I've ended up surrounded by crazy people". 445 00:34:27,240 --> 00:34:31,120 The journalist. 446 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:42,120 Journalist Barbara Ward, from The Economist magazine, 447 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:43,840 came to San Giovanni Rotondo 448 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,560 because she wanted to meet Padre Pio. 449 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,960 She wanted to ask for his intercession 450 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:49,760 in her boyfriend's conversion, 451 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,720 as she wanted to be married according to the Catholic tradition. 452 00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,880 Padre Pio answered simply: 453 00:34:59,960 --> 00:35:01,960 "If it is God's wish, even now". 454 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,080 Her boyfriend, Captain Jackson, 455 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:17,400 was responsible for the post-war reconstruction funds 456 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:22,840 provided by the United Nations, who had added to the Marshall Plan 457 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,000 a grants project through the UNRRA. 458 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,480 Her boyfriend immediately said that he wished to be baptised as Catholic 459 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,840 to make his girlfriend happy and marry in the Catholic Church. 460 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:35,480 The baptism took place 461 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:42,400 on the same day Barbara Ward met Padre Pio. 462 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:46,720 And as Padre Pio said: "If it is God's wish, even now". 463 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:52,680 Barbara Ward, through her boyfriend, managed to convince the organisation 464 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,000 of the need to help build 465 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,800 a large hospital in southern Italy. 466 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,080 "The Engineer" 467 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,880 They called him "the engineer", 468 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,160 although later it was known that he wasn't an engineer. 469 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,560 Even the Court of Foggia 470 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:28,120 tried him for building a hospital without having a degree. 471 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:37,000 This helps us understand that behind it all was the Providence. 472 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,400 Gestapo prisoner. 473 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,720 The young Karol Wojtyla 474 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,040 was a student in the academic world of Rome. 475 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:08,560 He was well aware of Padre Pio's depth and spiritual gifts. 476 00:37:08,720 --> 00:37:12,240 Actually, he went to see him in San Giovanni Rotondo, 477 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,880 prayed with him and maintained correspondence with him. 478 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,920 This knowledge of Karol Wojtyla's 479 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:27,320 led him to ask for Padre Pio's intercession for a friend of his, 480 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,480 the doctor Wanda Poltaska, 481 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,120 tortured by the nazis and later declared terminally ill by doctors 482 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:34,880 due to cancer. 483 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,880 Padre Pio said: 484 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,560 "This we cannot refuse". 485 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,280 A second letter from Wojtyla confirmed 486 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,040 Wanda's inexplicable recovery. 487 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,600 Padre Pio, herald of the Lord? 488 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,840 To say so is blasphemy to the Holy Office, 489 00:38:01,240 --> 00:38:04,680 who prohibits the publication of Alberto del Fante's book 490 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,720 in which he is proclaimed as such. 491 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,480 The "Banker of God" 492 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,720 This is the story of the banker Giuffrè, 493 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,280 also called "God's Banker", 494 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,160 a banker who lent a lot of money, with very high interest rates, 495 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,800 to religious organisations 496 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,240 in the 50s and 60s. 497 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:32,840 Then there was a huge vocational "boom" 498 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:37,600 and many religious orders and dioceses built seminaries 499 00:38:37,720 --> 00:38:41,520 and expensive buildings linked to him. 500 00:38:41,720 --> 00:38:45,400 Many went to this money lender 501 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,680 in order to pay the costs of these large building projects. 502 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,360 Padre Pio didn't want anything to do with it 503 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,880 and he advised his provincial superiors against it as well. 504 00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,000 In this letter from Padre Teófilo da Pozzo, 505 00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:02,720 a Tuscan provincial superior, to Giuffrè, 506 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,320 dated 25th November, 1958, 507 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:11,680 we can see the relationship between the Capuchins and "God's banker". 508 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,560 In the same letter is the news 509 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,200 that doctor Baccalà has died of a heart attack 510 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:24,160 after losing all his savings, totalling 3.7 million lira. 511 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:30,400 It was a great story: the bankruptcy of the Vatican. 512 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:31,840 The Giufrè case, 513 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,800 when they came here to get money from Padre Pio. 514 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,800 Giuffrè owes in total 515 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,160 more than 3695 million lira 516 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,480 in interest to his clients. 517 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:57,480 Bankruptcy was declared 518 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,920 and our superiors wanted Padre Pio 519 00:40:01,240 --> 00:40:03,280 to help the province by diverting money 520 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,080 from the Home to Relieve Suffering 521 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:09,880 to pay off the debts incurred with this banker. 522 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,200 Padre Pio obviously said no 523 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,080 and this brought him a lot of problems. 524 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:23,480 Giuffrè's debt is calculated at more than 21 billion lira. 525 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:31,480 As far as I know, Padre Pio wanted, from the start, to entrust 526 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,480 the running of the Home to Relieve Suffering 527 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,120 to the Secular Franciscan Order. 528 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:43,400 Evidently, the second time around, 529 00:40:43,720 --> 00:40:46,920 he decided to put the Order of the Capuchins in charge, 530 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,080 but its general minister refused, 531 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,800 saying the running of a hospital was not part 532 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,880 of their duties. 533 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,320 Finally, Padre Pio decided to entrust 534 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,160 the Home to Relieve Suffering to the Holy See. 535 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,160 From this person I have received 536 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,360 the amount of 300.000 lira 537 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,880 to be administered by Giuffrè. 538 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,320 The perception. 539 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:37,720 Initially, John XXIII thought highly of Padre Pio. 540 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:57,640 He knew, probably because he had been informed, 541 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,000 about the conversions that took place here 542 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,640 and that pleased him tremendously. 543 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,760 It seems one of his sisters 544 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,560 was also with Padre Pio in San Giovanni Rotondo. 545 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,240 Why did he change his opinion? 546 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,720 Probably because he was surrounded 547 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,040 by people who didn't respect Padre Pio. 548 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,400 He defended his friends, 549 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,440 like the Bishop of Manfredonia, 550 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,200 the Cardinal of Florence, the Cardinal of Padua... 551 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,360 And they were all against Padre Pio. 552 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:34,200 Just like, if I'm not mistaken, the case of monsignor Maccari. 553 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,560 Evidently, they all influenced his thoughts negatively. 554 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:42,600 John XXIII never doubted the accusations 555 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,280 that monsignor Maccari presented. 556 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:55,200 In this letter from judge Giovanni Alberto Alessandri 557 00:42:55,440 --> 00:43:00,200 to Pope John XXIII, dated 20th September, 1960, 558 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,560 the magistrate warns the Holy Father 559 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,480 of the apostolic visit of monsignor Carlo Maccari, 560 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:12,360 saying the rules regarding this type of mission were being violated, 561 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:17,720 and he warns that his presence will only serve to defame Padre Pio 562 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,720 for a long time. 563 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:30,320 It wasn't the figure of Padre Pio that worried Maccari, 564 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,280 but rather the atmosphere that had been created. 565 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:37,560 But that image of the village, of the country life, 566 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,960 wasn't liked by the the intellectual elite of the papal Curia. 567 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:46,440 I have met people 568 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,080 who were linked to Padre Pio in an improper way, 569 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,800 especially those known as the "pious women". 570 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,160 The historian Sergio Luzzato 571 00:43:58,240 --> 00:44:01,040 had access to Pope Roncalli's Archives. 572 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:09,560 In fact, in a note from 30th January, 1960, 573 00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,600 the Pope wrote that he was very worried 574 00:44:13,720 --> 00:44:16,680 about the circle of women around Padre Pio, 575 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:21,120 namely Olga Lecci, Tina Belloni and Cleonice Morcaldi. 576 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:25,640 They accused him of having sexual relationships 577 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,360 with some of his spiritual daughters. 578 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,640 I feel sorry for Padre Pio: 579 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:39,280 his soul must be saved and I pray for him intensely 580 00:44:41,240 --> 00:44:42,840 Archives of John XXIII 581 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,280 The Friendly Pope. 582 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:03,240 Paul VI spoke to him many times 583 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,960 or informed him of what was going on inside the Church. 584 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,200 The Pope wrote to Padre Pio and trusted him. 585 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,200 He knew how much Padre Pio was suffering 586 00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:14,920 and the situation of the Church 587 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,720 in those most painful moments of his papacy. 588 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,800 Letter from the future Paul VI to Padre Pio, 589 00:45:31,240 --> 00:45:33,920 dated 20th June, 1960, 590 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:38,280 congratulating him on his 50 years of priesthood 591 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,120 and asking him to pray for him. 592 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,200 Temple of prayer and science. 593 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:52,880 Padre Pio predicted my work and dedication 594 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,360 to this hospital. 595 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,840 So I said to him: 596 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,000 "Padre, I want to be a nun, 597 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,800 but my mother and father say I can't". 598 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:06,760 And he replied: "You a nun? What are you talking about? 599 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:08,920 Go and study. 600 00:46:09,240 --> 00:46:12,240 One day you will be the mother of many children". 601 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:17,200 The hospital Home to Relieve Suffering is, without doubt, 602 00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,200 the manifestation of Padre Pio's holiness. 603 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,200 Because the Home, as he put it, 604 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,440 is a place of prayer and science. 605 00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:28,480 He specified: "Temple of prayer and science". 606 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:35,000 The motive for setting up the prayer groups 607 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:40,040 was as an answer to Pious XII's appeal. 608 00:46:40,720 --> 00:46:43,880 During the years of the Second World War, 609 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:48,000 the Pope appealed universally for the Church to pray. 610 00:46:48,240 --> 00:46:51,760 Padre Pio heard this command and said: 611 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,640 "We must be the first to answer the Pope's call". 612 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,960 I was a bit angry then, 613 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:09,240 but after, when I grew up, 614 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:14,600 I understood what it meant to be in the service of Padre Pio. 615 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,360 Because now I'm here, doing his work. 616 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:32,800 I see the figure of a doctor 617 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,400 as the person wearing the stethoscope, 618 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,760 because that serves to cure the patient. 619 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,480 But, above all, I think that Padre Pio 620 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:48,000 would never have wanted us to lose sight of prayer 621 00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,720 through the Rosary. 622 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,240 Because if the sick person was Jesus, 623 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:07,840 and the poor, sick person was Jesus times two, 624 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:14,680 the sick children, for Padre Pio, must have been the Holy Trinity. 625 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,200 I went to take confession with Padre Pio and he said: 626 00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,840 "My child, you have to work in my Home". 627 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,960 I took a nursing course. 628 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,000 The night before the exams, at four in the morning, 629 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,080 he came to me in my dreams to help me. 630 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,320 "Don't worry, revise abdominal typhus", he told me. 631 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:44,480 The next morning, I walked into the exam room 632 00:48:44,720 --> 00:48:47,080 and the provincial director said: 633 00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,280 "Miss, tell me about abdominal typhus". 634 00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:52,760 I aced the exam! 635 00:49:06,720 --> 00:49:09,480 The Last Mass 22 September 1968 636 00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:13,920 In the last months before Padre Pio's death, 637 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:15,640 some of the brothers noticed 638 00:49:15,720 --> 00:49:17,840 that for months there had been no sign 639 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,600 of the stigmata on his feet. 640 00:49:20,720 --> 00:49:25,080 He was aware that the stigmata were disappearing 641 00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,120 for months before his death. 642 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,680 While on his hands, 643 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,760 the last crust of blood fell off shortly before his death, 644 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,240 in the cell where Padre Pio died. 645 00:50:02,720 --> 00:50:08,440 He had the stigmata when he almost fell, 646 00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:15,680 because it was documented by the photographer Elia Stelluto. 647 00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,840 There are still photos which show 648 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,440 that Padre Pio still had them. 649 00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:26,680 After his death, the stigmata disappeared. 650 00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:23,560 The last morning? 651 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:27,720 Padre Pio, when he stood up after Mass, 652 00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:31,560 almost fell as we walked down the stairs. 653 00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,120 I was already on the first step, because I was ahead of him. 654 00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,400 Friar Pio Martino was behind 655 00:51:39,240 --> 00:51:41,720 and saw Padre Pio stumble. 656 00:51:42,240 --> 00:51:45,320 He grabbed him by the waist to stabilise him. 657 00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,400 I turned around and placed my shoulder next to his. 658 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,480 And then I shouted: "The wheelchair! The wheelchair! 659 00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:54,560 I'll be right back with the wheelchair!" 660 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,320 I was in the sacristy. 661 00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,320 They sat Padre Pio in the chair and we took him to the sacristy. 662 00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:01,880 While we were taking him there, he repeated: 663 00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,080 "My children, my children". 664 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,040 It was practically a whisper: "Oh my God, oh my God". 665 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:10,280 was also where Padre Pio 666 00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,360 This small, internal chapel 667 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:17,160 celebrated the Eucharist in total privacy 668 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:19,320 during the years of segregation. 669 00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,120 The mysterious hand. 670 00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:01,600 Ali Agca declared before the judge Ilario Martella 671 00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:07,000 that there was a second nun who grabbed him by the arm 672 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:12,280 to prevent him from continuing to shoot at John Paul II. 673 00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:27,160 Only the hitman managed to see this nun 674 00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:30,640 and her name is sister Rita of the Holy Spirit, 675 00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,080 spiritual daughter of Padre Pio. 676 00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:44,120 In this letter, monsignor Gagliardi, archbishop of Manfredonia, declares: 677 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:46,840 "We should neither feel guilty 678 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:50,080 nor try to avoid the gossip surrounding Padre Pio". 679 00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:56,960 The problem started when I had some blood tests done. 680 00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:58,760 I was given two months to live. 681 00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,120 I did a whole cycle of chemotherapy. 682 00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:09,880 Pray, have faith and wait. 683 00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,840 When I was in hospital, 684 00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:20,280 I always had Padre Pio's heirlooms with me, given to me by the friars 685 00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,280 during my intensive therapy. 686 00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:28,480 I prayed and prayed to him. I always prayed to Padre Pio 687 00:54:28,720 --> 00:54:31,800 and he gave me strength. He never abandoned me 688 00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:33,880 and I felt protected by him. 689 00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,880 Padre Pio would always say, 690 00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,960 that he would make more noise alive than dead. 691 00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:43,760 And it's true. I was close to death yet here I still am on Earth. 692 00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:54,480 The funeral 26 September 1968 693 00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,520 "Padre Pio is sick! Padre Pio is sick! Run, run!" 694 00:56:20,720 --> 00:56:23,800 And I was on my way to Padre Pio's cell, 695 00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:27,880 when I heard doctor Sala say: 696 00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,160 "We're going to lose Padre Pio tonight! 697 00:56:30,240 --> 00:56:33,480 We're going to lose Padre Pio tonight!" 698 00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,760 I asked: "Father superior, shell I fetch the holy oil?" 699 00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:40,400 "Run, run, my son!", he told me hurriedly. 700 00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:55,000 I gave him absolution sub conditione, 701 00:56:55,240 --> 00:56:58,360 used when the sick person can no longer speak. 702 00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:02,920 I began to anoint his eyes, nose and mouth. 703 00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,360 I tried to hurry so as to finish quickly, 704 00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,080 as I heard doctor Sala say: 705 00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,720 "We're going to lose Padre Pio tonight!" 706 00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,160 Padre Pio didn't say a single word. 707 00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:29,240 Perhaps he quietly mumbled: "Jesus, Mary. Jesus, Mary". 708 00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:31,960 At two thirty he died. 709 00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:16,560 When he died, 710 00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:20,120 many of us thought the era of Padre Pio had ended. 711 00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:22,640 That he would not be spoken of again. 712 00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:34,640 People slowly started leaving San Giovanni Rotondo. 713 00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:38,560 The shelters and the hospital remained, 714 00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:40,720 and were reorganised, 715 00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:43,200 until finally the Home to Relieve Suffering 716 00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:44,360 was put up for sale, 717 00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,360 as they were unable to keep it afloat. 718 00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:53,280 Padre Pio's story was coming to an end. 719 00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:02,560 I feel defeated, but I give thanks to God. 720 00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:05,280 Today I should feel completely destroyed, 721 00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:08,560 but thanks to God I have overcome it. 722 00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:13,400 I pray that God sanctifies them. 723 00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:46,920 Open grave 2 March 2008 724 00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:52,080 there was a huge amount of expectation. 725 00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:53,600 When his body was exhumed, 726 00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:55,120 There was a huge amount of expectation. 727 00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:00,640 We wondered what state Padre Pio's body would be in. 728 01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:15,400 I was there when they opened the coffin 729 01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:20,000 and I also took part in the work to preserve 730 01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,960 Padre Pio's mortal remains. 731 01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:41,680 You could recognise him by his abundant beard. 732 01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:46,720 Obviously, the physiognomical features of his face 733 01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:50,400 had been altered and he appeared gaunt. 734 01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:56,120 His skin was stretched tight over his cranium. 735 01:00:56,440 --> 01:01:01,800 But the Padre Capuchin's general features were recognisable. 736 01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:24,480 Padre Pio's body, 737 01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:29,200 as it has been preserved in the glass coffin, 738 01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:34,560 wears a mask that covers his face 739 01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:37,800 as well as his copious beard, 740 01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:44,720 which was still present on the saint's body. 741 01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:55,560 He went through a process of transformation 742 01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:59,640 known in medical terms as "corification", 743 01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:03,080 which is when the tissues have dried out 744 01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:07,080 and have taken on a brownish, blackish colour. 745 01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:59,720 The miracle of canonization. 746 01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:09,280 I didn't feel well. 747 01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:12,040 I told my mother that I didn't want to go to school, 748 01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:15,920 but she made me, because at that time I didn't like school. 749 01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:23,880 But, that night, when my mother came to say goodnight, 750 01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:27,600 I didn't recognise her, and so I was immediately taken to hospital. 751 01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:36,600 Matteo's heart stopped for almost an hour. 752 01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:40,120 Nine of his organs were affected. 753 01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:44,360 He was in a very serious condition 754 01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:48,800 and for the doctors, there was no chance of recuperation. 755 01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:59,640 During the coma, in my dreams I saw Padre Pio on my right 756 01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:02,560 and three angels on my left. 757 01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:05,560 One had golden wings and was wearing a white tunic. 758 01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:09,000 The other two had white wings and red tunics. 759 01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:13,560 Padre Pio told me not to worry, because I would soon be cured. 760 01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:21,440 During Matteo's suffering and his coma, 761 01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:23,840 which lasted eleven, long days, 762 01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:28,840 I prayed for Padre Pio to intervene, so that what happened to Lazarus 763 01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:30,920 would also happen to my son: a resurrection. 764 01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:39,080 I was with friar Modestino, who insisted: 765 01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:42,440 "I offer my life for Matteo, 766 01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:47,200 do not be scared, pray, have faith, 767 01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:49,720 because Padre Pio needs a miracle 768 01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,560 to become a saint and this could be it". 769 01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:00,880 Matteo's recovery was 770 01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:03,520 something exceptional for us, the doctors. 771 01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:13,200 The boy 772 01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:18,560 had gone from having a high fever 773 01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:22,200 to having septic shock, with multiple organ failure 774 01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:26,680 and a prolonged cardiac arrest. 775 01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:34,040 Among us, the doctors, word had already spread 776 01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:36,040 that Matteo had died. 777 01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:40,160 Padre Pio is like a grandfather to me. 778 01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:43,840 Someone to talk to 779 01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:46,760 about specific problems. 780 01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:51,320 Matteo's illness and then miracle were 781 01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:53,880 two extremely intense experiences, 782 01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:57,720 that have inevitably changed our lives forever. 783 01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:01,480 I've always believed that I was given a second chance 784 01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:03,760 for which I should be eternally grateful. 785 01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:11,680 When I speak to a non-believer, I say: 786 01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:13,600 "I'm here. 787 01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:16,880 It's something inexplicable for science, 788 01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:19,400 but there's another explanation that we are unable to comprehend". 789 01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:47,960 The privileged relationship with the highest offices 790 01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:50,880 will serve to destroy Padre Pio. 791 01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:53,520 The conspiracy. 792 01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:55,400 They set up microphones, 793 01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:57,640 not only in Padre's Pio's confessional, 794 01:06:57,720 --> 01:06:58,480 but also in his cell. 795 01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:00,680 It was the microphone in his cell. 796 01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:14,360 Friar Giustino da Lecce 797 01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:18,360 in a letter sent on November 1961, confesses 798 01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:22,280 his participation in the conspiracy against Padre Pio. 799 01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:29,640 "Friar Bonaventura da Pavullo", writes, 800 01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:33,320 "I was aware Padre Pio was being listened to 801 01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:35,800 and I convinced myself to keep doing so". 802 01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:40,800 The microphone had to be attached 803 01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:42,840 with string and then the recorder set up, 804 01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:45,480 and this could only be done in Padre Pio's cell. 805 01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:52,640 "I installed the microphones with the permission of my superiors, 806 01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:55,920 although I realise it was the wrong thing to do". 807 01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:02,000 The cells were all next to one another: 808 01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:05,880 one, two, three, four and five. So, the last two cells. 809 01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:15,920 "I am aware that the blame can fall solely on my shoulders 810 01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:17,720 and not on the Order". 811 01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:29,280 Padre Giustino says he did it out of obedience. 812 01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:33,720 He had to find out Padre Pio's secrets, 813 01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:37,800 those related to both women and men. 814 01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:41,640 That's why microphones were set up in the confessional and the cell. 815 01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:46,800 "On other occasions, 816 01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:49,960 when Padre Pio had slept at the clinic, 817 01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:52,360 it was said that other women 818 01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:55,920 had been given permission to spend the night with him". 819 01:08:59,960 --> 01:09:03,800 Microphones were set up in the guest quarters, 820 01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:05,240 where the women were received, 821 01:09:05,440 --> 01:09:09,040 and in cell number 5, where his collaborators 822 01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:13,120 in the building and management of his Home could be found. 823 01:09:18,480 --> 01:09:23,000 Monsignor Gagliardi, archbishop of Manfredonia, 824 01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:25,680 was defamatory about Padre Pio. 825 01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:34,640 Monsignor Gagliardi accused Padre Pio of having a lover, 826 01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:38,000 but it wasn't true. He was the one who had a lover. 827 01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:45,720 Once he found a microphone under his bed 828 01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:48,200 and he got rid of it. 829 01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:56,480 Padre Pio cut the microphone wire with this knife, 830 01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:59,200 as was published by the newspaper Il Tempo 831 01:09:59,480 --> 01:10:03,000 on 28th December, 1963. 832 01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:08,400 Padre Pio was persecuted. 833 01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:13,400 He was always shut away, just like a prisoner in jail. 834 01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:21,480 Padre Pio never defended himself. 835 01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:24,680 He never reproached or accused anyone. 836 01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:27,080 He always left his fate in the hands of God. 837 01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:32,400 Friars who didn't want him around 838 01:10:32,480 --> 01:10:36,000 invented whatever story they could to obtain their goal, 839 01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:38,880 which was to make his life unbearable. 840 01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:47,200 Padre Pio was forced to sign a letter 841 01:10:47,440 --> 01:10:51,120 in which he declared that he had never been persecuted 842 01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:54,600 by the Holy See. 843 01:10:55,440 --> 01:10:57,960 "I enjoy freedom in my work 844 01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:00,640 and I have neither enemies, nor persecutors", 845 01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:05,560 wrote Padre Pio on 16th December, 1964. 846 01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:10,160 His whole life he was persecuted in this house. 847 01:11:27,480 --> 01:11:31,040 Practically all the people 848 01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:34,560 who made Padre Pio's life impossible have repented. 849 01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:36,120 Repent. 850 01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:38,600 He was sorry and prayed for them. 851 01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:41,920 He asked the Lord to give him the strength to convert them. 852 01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:46,480 Maccari's declarations rehabilitated Padre Pio before his death. 853 01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:50,160 One of these people is father Agostino Gemelli. 854 01:11:56,520 --> 01:12:01,480 In fact, as those close to Padre Pio and his personal doctor, 855 01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:04,720 Giuseppe Sala, have confirmed, 856 01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:07,600 Agostino Gemelli apologised to Padre Pio 857 01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:09,920 before taking confession with him. 858 01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:17,120 Monsignor Gagliardi had time to reconsider 859 01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:20,080 when he concluded his time as bishop. 860 01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:23,200 Padre Pio wrote to him 861 01:12:23,480 --> 01:12:27,280 and he answered when he was back in Matera, his home town. 862 01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:29,600 Padre Pio used to say: 863 01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:33,600 "I was born in the Church 864 01:12:34,440 --> 01:12:36,560 and I wish to die in the Church". 865 01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:40,440 I have mistreated and damaged you. 866 01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:21,640 I will do more dead than alive. Padre Pio.