1 00:00:02,042 --> 00:00:03,333 -TRAVIS: Oh, wow. -We've been wanting 2 00:00:03,417 --> 00:00:06,292 to fly a pattern of drones over the triangle and the east field. 3 00:00:06,417 --> 00:00:07,375 TRAVIS (over radio): There are several drones 4 00:00:07,542 --> 00:00:10,000 out of line we can see from my perspective. 5 00:00:10,125 --> 00:00:11,958 They're clearly out of place. 6 00:00:12,083 --> 00:00:13,208 Yeah, we've got eyes on that. 7 00:00:13,333 --> 00:00:14,917 I have 80 disconnected. 8 00:00:15,042 --> 00:00:16,292 They're coming home. 9 00:00:16,375 --> 00:00:19,375 Three, two, one! 10 00:00:21,125 --> 00:00:23,167 KALEB: We got something right there. 11 00:00:23,333 --> 00:00:25,667 TRAVIS: There's a thing hovering over the launch site! 12 00:00:25,792 --> 00:00:28,875 PETE: So there's a gap in the data from the triangle 13 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,417 at the top of the mesa. 14 00:00:31,542 --> 00:00:34,083 Somehow we've got to get inside the mesa. 15 00:00:35,708 --> 00:00:39,167 NARRATOR: There is a ranch in Northern Utah. 16 00:00:39,292 --> 00:00:41,292 It is considered the epicenter 17 00:00:41,375 --> 00:00:46,542 of the strangest and most disturbing phenomena on Earth: 18 00:00:46,708 --> 00:00:48,625 animal mutilations, 19 00:00:48,708 --> 00:00:51,375 bizarre UFO sightings 20 00:00:51,500 --> 00:00:55,583 and unusual energies that have proven harmful to humans. 21 00:00:55,708 --> 00:00:58,750 For 20 years, the federal government 22 00:00:58,875 --> 00:01:01,750 tried to find answers and failed. 23 00:01:01,875 --> 00:01:06,042 Now a new team of dedicated scientists, 24 00:01:06,167 --> 00:01:10,167 researchers and experts has taken over. 25 00:01:10,292 --> 00:01:13,708 They are determined to solve the mystery and reveal... 26 00:01:16,417 --> 00:01:20,167 ...The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch. 27 00:01:32,708 --> 00:01:34,292 -Pete! -Hey, Pete. 28 00:01:34,375 --> 00:01:36,167 I want you to meet some friends of mine. 29 00:01:36,292 --> 00:01:38,167 -All right. -(Pete chuckling) 30 00:01:38,292 --> 00:01:41,167 TRAVIS: After our experiment at the triangle last week 31 00:01:41,292 --> 00:01:43,833 actually revealed that there might be a connection 32 00:01:43,958 --> 00:01:46,667 to the mesa, we invited Pete Kelsey and his colleague, 33 00:01:46,792 --> 00:01:50,250 ground-penetrating radar expert Jan Francke 34 00:01:50,375 --> 00:01:53,833 to help us with a new investigation of that area. 35 00:01:53,958 --> 00:01:55,667 Well, welcome to the ranch. 36 00:01:55,750 --> 00:01:56,667 Thank you. Happy to be here. 37 00:01:56,792 --> 00:01:58,708 TRAVIS: So, uh, Pete tells us that you've 38 00:01:58,875 --> 00:02:00,167 got some interesting technology 39 00:02:00,250 --> 00:02:02,167 that might help us out at the mesa. 40 00:02:02,333 --> 00:02:04,417 Yeah, I make deep ground-penetrating 41 00:02:04,542 --> 00:02:06,333 radar systems and I've got one that I made 42 00:02:06,500 --> 00:02:09,125 for you guys that's a really, really small one. 43 00:02:09,250 --> 00:02:10,208 It can get up over 44 00:02:10,333 --> 00:02:12,875 some of that really rough rocks, rock face 45 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:14,333 that you wouldn't be able to drag a normal radar on. 46 00:02:14,417 --> 00:02:16,750 And I've got one that's a really deep 47 00:02:16,875 --> 00:02:17,583 penetrating ground-based system 48 00:02:17,708 --> 00:02:18,833 that looks like a snake actually. 49 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,667 -We use this for the mining industry. -Okay. 50 00:02:21,833 --> 00:02:23,167 JAN: What is it you're actually expecting to see? 51 00:02:23,292 --> 00:02:24,667 What are you looking for here? 52 00:02:24,833 --> 00:02:28,000 -We've heard about caves inside of the mesa. -Okay. 53 00:02:28,125 --> 00:02:31,208 We're actually looking for also a-a structure that was 54 00:02:31,333 --> 00:02:33,250 impenetrable to our drilling. 55 00:02:33,375 --> 00:02:35,333 You know, as we went back into that mesa, 56 00:02:35,500 --> 00:02:36,792 we were using a directional drilling technique 57 00:02:36,875 --> 00:02:39,167 that should have been able to turn upward 58 00:02:39,292 --> 00:02:40,667 but could not, we couldn't get through 59 00:02:40,750 --> 00:02:42,500 that layer, so it was a dome shape there. 60 00:02:42,583 --> 00:02:44,542 And of course we'll be especially interested 61 00:02:44,667 --> 00:02:46,292 if we see anything that looks unnatural. 62 00:02:46,417 --> 00:02:48,583 -Absolutely. -Beneath that surface. 63 00:02:48,708 --> 00:02:51,500 In our ongoing efforts to find the answers behind 64 00:02:51,625 --> 00:02:55,417 all the strange phenomena that occur on Skinwalker Ranch, 65 00:02:55,542 --> 00:02:58,417 we're now getting focused back on the mesa. 66 00:02:59,500 --> 00:03:02,000 Oh, wow, look at that! 67 00:03:02,167 --> 00:03:04,000 We were all baffled one week ago 68 00:03:04,167 --> 00:03:06,958 when the drone swarm we launched over the triangle 69 00:03:07,042 --> 00:03:08,583 to pinpoint an anomaly 70 00:03:08,708 --> 00:03:11,875 between 300 and 5,000 feet began malfunctioning. 71 00:03:12,042 --> 00:03:14,792 -Look at that one! -One's falling, one's falling! 72 00:03:14,917 --> 00:03:17,667 -They're running into each other! -THOMAS: They're going crazy! 73 00:03:17,750 --> 00:03:20,042 Almost all of them are disconnected right now. 74 00:03:20,208 --> 00:03:21,750 PETE: What I'm going to bring up now is the data 75 00:03:21,875 --> 00:03:24,542 from the terrestrial laser scanner. 76 00:03:24,667 --> 00:03:27,542 TRAVIS: And then the lidar data that Pete recorded 77 00:03:27,708 --> 00:03:29,583 was missing a big chunk of data 78 00:03:29,708 --> 00:03:32,458 that somehow appeared right over 79 00:03:32,583 --> 00:03:36,458 that same spot where we drilled into the mesa last year, 80 00:03:36,542 --> 00:03:40,417 and discovered a 400-foot-long dome-shaped metal object. 81 00:03:40,542 --> 00:03:42,917 -Wow. -A metal object made of 82 00:03:43,042 --> 00:03:45,000 the same kind of material 83 00:03:45,083 --> 00:03:48,500 that NASA uses to protect the outside of space shuttles. 84 00:03:48,625 --> 00:03:51,417 So, now we're hoping that Jan, 85 00:03:51,542 --> 00:03:54,833 who is a world-renowned expert in ground-penetrating radar, 86 00:03:54,958 --> 00:03:57,542 has the technology that can help us figure out 87 00:03:57,667 --> 00:03:59,750 just what's inside the mesa 88 00:03:59,875 --> 00:04:02,500 and how it might be related to the strange things 89 00:04:02,625 --> 00:04:04,792 that keep happening at the triangle. 90 00:04:04,875 --> 00:04:08,375 So, uh, how deep of a-a penetration can you get? 91 00:04:08,542 --> 00:04:10,750 Usually we get down to 200, 300 feet with this, 92 00:04:10,875 --> 00:04:12,000 so it's pretty exciting. 93 00:04:12,125 --> 00:04:14,042 TRAVIS: GPR works by sending 94 00:04:14,167 --> 00:04:16,000 radio waves into the ground 95 00:04:16,125 --> 00:04:19,500 that reflect off anomalies like buried objects or voids 96 00:04:19,625 --> 00:04:23,542 to reveal an image of their shape as well as their depth. 97 00:04:23,708 --> 00:04:26,333 If there's a discontinuity or a void, 98 00:04:26,417 --> 00:04:27,792 we definitely should be able to see that. 99 00:04:27,875 --> 00:04:29,833 -What about metal? -(chuckles) Well, 100 00:04:29,958 --> 00:04:31,625 yeah, metal's a great target for radar, 101 00:04:31,750 --> 00:04:32,750 so if there's something metal there, 102 00:04:32,875 --> 00:04:34,667 we'd certainly be able to see that as well. 103 00:04:34,792 --> 00:04:35,833 BRYANT: Sounds like we've got a lot to do. 104 00:04:35,917 --> 00:04:37,250 -We should probably get to it. -Let's do it. 105 00:04:37,375 --> 00:04:40,042 -All right, we'll see you. Y'all just follow us down there. -Okay. 106 00:04:42,958 --> 00:04:46,292 TRAVIS: Even before we discovered this mysterious metal object, 107 00:04:46,375 --> 00:04:49,833 there were all kinds of rumors about the mesa going back 108 00:04:49,917 --> 00:04:52,542 to when Robert Bigelow and the federal government 109 00:04:52,708 --> 00:04:56,042 investigated here from the 1990s to the early 2000s. 110 00:04:58,542 --> 00:05:02,167 -X marks the spot, Pete. -X marks the spot. 111 00:05:02,250 --> 00:05:05,375 THOMAS: I've heard all kinds of crazy stories about this mesa. 112 00:05:05,542 --> 00:05:07,667 Spacecraft going in it, tunnels, 113 00:05:07,792 --> 00:05:10,292 caverns, underground bases. 114 00:05:10,375 --> 00:05:12,167 What kind of mysteries lie inside? 115 00:05:13,875 --> 00:05:17,667 BRANDON: For decades, there have been reports of underground chambers 116 00:05:17,792 --> 00:05:21,167 or tunnels beneath the mesa. 117 00:05:21,250 --> 00:05:23,375 That may hold the key to understanding 118 00:05:23,542 --> 00:05:25,667 the secrets of Skinwalker Ranch. 119 00:05:25,792 --> 00:05:28,208 The deeper we can see into that pile of rocks, 120 00:05:28,333 --> 00:05:29,167 -into that mesa... -JAN: Sure. 121 00:05:29,333 --> 00:05:30,333 Uh, the more we're gonna understand 122 00:05:30,458 --> 00:05:32,417 what it is we're messing with out here. 123 00:05:32,542 --> 00:05:34,625 Okay. It'll be interesting to see what's underground. 124 00:05:34,708 --> 00:05:36,417 TRAVIS: So that's the antenna? 125 00:05:36,542 --> 00:05:37,833 JAN: Well, it's the entire radar. 126 00:05:37,917 --> 00:05:39,000 These are the antennas right here, 127 00:05:39,083 --> 00:05:40,083 this is just a separator. 128 00:05:40,208 --> 00:05:42,083 It's all fiberglass, keep it as light as possible. 129 00:05:42,208 --> 00:05:42,833 We can't use carbon fiber 130 00:05:42,958 --> 00:05:44,083 because it's conductive, of course. 131 00:05:44,208 --> 00:05:46,208 TRAVIS: Jan has brought two devices 132 00:05:46,375 --> 00:05:48,167 that we'll use to scan the mesa. 133 00:05:48,250 --> 00:05:51,542 One is a unit that Tom Winterton will actually wear 134 00:05:51,708 --> 00:05:53,417 while he hikes over the area where we drilled 135 00:05:53,542 --> 00:05:56,625 against the dome-shaped object last year. 136 00:05:56,708 --> 00:06:00,375 And meanwhile, Jan and Kaleb will run the other device 137 00:06:00,542 --> 00:06:02,292 back and forth on top of the mesa 138 00:06:02,417 --> 00:06:05,667 to see if anything else might be hidden inside there 139 00:06:05,833 --> 00:06:07,542 like we've heard about in the past. 140 00:06:07,667 --> 00:06:09,500 Well, it looks like we're just about set up 141 00:06:09,583 --> 00:06:11,708 so, uh, talk us through what you're going to do. 142 00:06:11,875 --> 00:06:13,792 Okay, there's a couple of GPR systems here. 143 00:06:13,917 --> 00:06:15,500 So, this one here, what's really nice about it, 144 00:06:15,667 --> 00:06:16,667 it's a very long wavelength 145 00:06:16,792 --> 00:06:18,833 which means we're gonna get good penetration. 146 00:06:18,958 --> 00:06:21,208 And because it's handheld, it gives us, uh, the ability 147 00:06:21,333 --> 00:06:23,667 -to get into areas that are really difficult terrain. -ERIK: Okay. 148 00:06:23,792 --> 00:06:25,208 So, we're set up over here. 149 00:06:25,333 --> 00:06:27,500 -JAN: Yep. -ERIK: We're gonna be doing the usual data logging. 150 00:06:27,625 --> 00:06:28,667 We've got the SDR, 151 00:06:28,750 --> 00:06:30,833 we've got the, uh, Geiger counter running. 152 00:06:30,958 --> 00:06:33,000 -Okay. -All right, man, well, let-let's get going. 153 00:06:33,125 --> 00:06:34,375 Okay, sounds good. 154 00:06:34,500 --> 00:06:35,667 ERIK: With all that we have going on 155 00:06:35,750 --> 00:06:38,292 and to the extent possible, I'm keeping a close eye 156 00:06:38,417 --> 00:06:39,333 on the RF spectrum analyzer 157 00:06:39,458 --> 00:06:42,458 to see if any unusual signals show up. 158 00:06:42,542 --> 00:06:44,500 Are you centered on 45? 159 00:06:44,625 --> 00:06:47,667 -That would be 44.5 something. -Good enough. 160 00:06:47,833 --> 00:06:50,625 TRAVIS: Nearly every time we run experiments on the ranch, 161 00:06:50,750 --> 00:06:52,875 we detect mysterious energy spikes, 162 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:57,125 especially one measuring 1.6 gigahertz, 163 00:06:57,250 --> 00:07:00,542 which I think could be some kind of communication signal. 164 00:07:00,708 --> 00:07:02,167 Go ahead and turn it on. 165 00:07:02,292 --> 00:07:03,167 I've turned it on. 166 00:07:03,250 --> 00:07:04,625 Okay, I've got the transmitter and receiver 167 00:07:04,750 --> 00:07:05,917 -working right now. -Okay. 168 00:07:06,042 --> 00:07:07,792 And it creates its own little website. 169 00:07:07,875 --> 00:07:09,583 -It's like a little access point, so... -Okay. 170 00:07:09,708 --> 00:07:10,958 -...even though we're not on the Internet here, 171 00:07:11,083 --> 00:07:12,250 I'm gonna talk to it with my phone. 172 00:07:12,375 --> 00:07:13,333 Okay. 173 00:07:13,458 --> 00:07:18,125 And you are good... 174 00:07:21,083 --> 00:07:23,333 ...good to go. 175 00:07:23,500 --> 00:07:25,792 Um... Um... 176 00:07:25,917 --> 00:07:28,292 -Are you guys transmitting something? -BRYANT: No. 177 00:07:28,417 --> 00:07:30,333 -No. -Hey, Erik. Travis. 178 00:07:30,458 --> 00:07:31,542 -Are you guys transmitting anything? -Are you transmitting something? 179 00:07:31,667 --> 00:07:33,833 -TRAVIS: No. -ERIK: No. We're not transmitting at all. 180 00:07:33,917 --> 00:07:35,875 -What are you seeing? -JAN: Uh... 181 00:07:36,042 --> 00:07:39,500 Uh, I've never seen this signal before, uh... 182 00:07:39,583 --> 00:07:40,958 What the hell? 183 00:07:43,167 --> 00:07:46,083 This waveform is not supposed to be happening right now. 184 00:07:46,208 --> 00:07:47,500 TRAVIS: Where's it coming from? 185 00:07:47,625 --> 00:07:50,000 JAN: Yeah, that's a good question. Where's it coming from? 186 00:07:50,167 --> 00:07:52,333 Let's-let's... Way back from the truck here 187 00:07:52,458 --> 00:07:54,500 just to be absolutely certain. 188 00:07:54,667 --> 00:07:57,542 Uh... Okay. 189 00:07:57,667 --> 00:07:58,875 Do you have a cell phone on you or something? 190 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:00,167 Well, I mean, I got one in my back pocket but I got it on... 191 00:08:00,333 --> 00:08:01,833 Yeah, let's just take that out if you don't mind. 192 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:03,500 -Turn it off. -Here, I'll turn it off. 193 00:08:03,667 --> 00:08:04,583 Yeah. Okay. 194 00:08:04,708 --> 00:08:06,667 That ain't it. 195 00:08:06,792 --> 00:08:08,750 JAN: See, so that's a normal wave- form there just for a second. 196 00:08:08,875 --> 00:08:09,833 -Right? -Mm-hmm, yeah, I see it, yep. 197 00:08:09,958 --> 00:08:12,250 But it's freaking out. 198 00:08:12,375 --> 00:08:15,417 TRAVIS: Jan actually built the systems he brought out here, 199 00:08:15,542 --> 00:08:17,000 he understands them completely. 200 00:08:17,167 --> 00:08:18,833 He is the guy for ground-penetrating radar. 201 00:08:18,958 --> 00:08:21,333 As soon as we got one of his systems off the truck 202 00:08:21,458 --> 00:08:24,792 and turned it on, it was instantly detecting 203 00:08:24,917 --> 00:08:28,000 a signal that Jan had never seen before. 204 00:08:28,167 --> 00:08:31,000 In thousands of experiments using this device, 205 00:08:31,125 --> 00:08:33,000 he was baffled and confused. 206 00:08:33,167 --> 00:08:34,958 I find that really interesting. 207 00:08:35,708 --> 00:08:37,333 So you've not seen that before? 208 00:08:37,458 --> 00:08:40,500 Uh, no, actually, I have not. 209 00:08:40,667 --> 00:08:42,500 And I tested it this morning, so... 210 00:08:42,625 --> 00:08:44,000 I'm gonna go scroll through the spectrum analyzer over here. 211 00:08:44,167 --> 00:08:46,625 -You tested it this morning and it was working? -I did. 212 00:08:46,708 --> 00:08:48,208 Yeah, yeah. It's a little strange. 213 00:08:48,333 --> 00:08:50,125 Um, there's nothing I can do about it. 214 00:08:50,208 --> 00:08:51,167 I think we're just gonna run with it and 215 00:08:51,250 --> 00:08:53,625 -see if we can filter it out. -Understood. 216 00:08:53,750 --> 00:08:54,917 When I first came on this ranch, 217 00:08:55,042 --> 00:08:58,667 I-I just thought, "Look, there's a lot of hype around it 218 00:08:58,792 --> 00:09:01,083 and I'm sure everything can be explained, right?" 219 00:09:01,208 --> 00:09:02,750 Then weird things started happening. 220 00:09:02,875 --> 00:09:04,833 I-I had that weird interference 221 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,792 that just has no simple geological explanation. 222 00:09:07,875 --> 00:09:10,125 I'm gonna start recording this. 223 00:09:10,208 --> 00:09:12,125 -Okay, well, I'm gonna head up the mesa so... -JAN: Okay. Careful. 224 00:09:12,250 --> 00:09:15,833 THOMAS: Having pulled metal 400 feet inside the mesa 225 00:09:15,917 --> 00:09:18,125 and now strongly suspecting that there could've 226 00:09:18,250 --> 00:09:21,500 actually been a cavern that went deep into the mesa, 227 00:09:21,667 --> 00:09:25,000 I'm praying that the information that we get from this GPR 228 00:09:25,125 --> 00:09:26,917 is finally going to answer some of the questions 229 00:09:27,042 --> 00:09:29,458 we have as far as what was this object 230 00:09:29,583 --> 00:09:33,083 we were bumping up against with the drill last year? 231 00:09:33,208 --> 00:09:35,625 TRAVIS: Man, he's up there. Look at him. 232 00:09:35,708 --> 00:09:37,542 What you're gonna do for me is drag this 233 00:09:37,708 --> 00:09:39,000 and it doesn't have to be a straight line 234 00:09:39,125 --> 00:09:40,458 because we're tracking exactly where you are 235 00:09:40,542 --> 00:09:41,292 -at all times, right? -Mm-hmm. 236 00:09:41,417 --> 00:09:43,208 And, uh, this is going to be taking 237 00:09:43,333 --> 00:09:44,375 an image of the ground essentially. 238 00:09:44,500 --> 00:09:46,667 -It's a representation of what's in the ground. -Yep. 239 00:09:46,833 --> 00:09:48,000 So, one's a transmitter, one's a receiver 240 00:09:48,167 --> 00:09:49,625 and it's gonna stretch out behind you 241 00:09:49,750 --> 00:09:51,417 -about five, six meters. -Okay. 242 00:09:51,542 --> 00:09:53,667 KALEB: As Thomas is going up the mesa there, 243 00:09:53,750 --> 00:09:56,542 I've been tasked with escorting Jan. 244 00:09:56,667 --> 00:09:58,000 He's got a very powerful 245 00:09:58,083 --> 00:10:01,458 GPR system that's been used all over the world. 246 00:10:01,583 --> 00:10:03,583 So, this is a very deep-penetrating radar. 247 00:10:03,708 --> 00:10:07,333 In fact, it's probably the world's deepest GPR system. 248 00:10:07,458 --> 00:10:09,625 I'm excited to see what kind of results we get 249 00:10:09,750 --> 00:10:11,000 and I'm here to help him out 250 00:10:11,125 --> 00:10:12,292 with scanning as much as we can. 251 00:10:12,417 --> 00:10:14,875 All right, let's hope the GPS works. 252 00:10:17,083 --> 00:10:19,958 TRAVIS: There are so many questions I have about Skinwalker Ranch. 253 00:10:20,083 --> 00:10:22,125 I want to know the answer to so many things. 254 00:10:22,250 --> 00:10:25,125 If I had to pick one that I wanted the answer to 255 00:10:25,250 --> 00:10:28,792 like right now, it would be: what's inside the mesa? 256 00:10:28,875 --> 00:10:31,125 We're just gonna have to see what we've got. 257 00:10:41,833 --> 00:10:43,458 -THOMAS: Hey, guys. -TRAVIS: What's going on, guys? 258 00:10:43,542 --> 00:10:44,333 So, what you got here? 259 00:10:44,417 --> 00:10:45,625 THOMAS: I'm really interested 260 00:10:45,750 --> 00:10:47,292 in what you found, Jan. 261 00:10:47,375 --> 00:10:49,417 -Absolutely. -Yeah, I can't wait. 262 00:10:49,542 --> 00:10:52,708 TRAVIS: The day after we ran ground-penetrating radar scans 263 00:10:52,833 --> 00:10:54,333 over the spot on the mesa 264 00:10:54,417 --> 00:10:57,375 where we discovered the massive dome-shaped metal object 265 00:10:57,500 --> 00:11:01,458 last year and also up on top of the ridge of the mesa, 266 00:11:01,542 --> 00:11:04,250 Pete Kelsey and Jan Francke joined us to present 267 00:11:04,375 --> 00:11:06,917 the processed data of what they had found. 268 00:11:07,042 --> 00:11:10,542 We'll start off with the, uh, small lightweight one. 269 00:11:11,875 --> 00:11:15,625 -This is the... This is my walking path? -This is your path, yes. 270 00:11:15,708 --> 00:11:17,500 Now, do you recall 271 00:11:17,625 --> 00:11:18,917 when we were out in the field 272 00:11:19,042 --> 00:11:20,500 we were getting a lot of interference. 273 00:11:20,625 --> 00:11:21,583 Mm-hmm. 274 00:11:21,708 --> 00:11:23,167 I've not seen that before. 275 00:11:23,292 --> 00:11:26,042 The data is almost unusable. 276 00:11:26,167 --> 00:11:29,958 There's just a huge amount of interference in this area. 277 00:11:31,083 --> 00:11:33,458 Right, interference from...? 278 00:11:34,875 --> 00:11:37,833 -What? -Yes. What? 279 00:11:37,917 --> 00:11:39,917 TRAVIS: Usually good GPR data 280 00:11:40,042 --> 00:11:42,042 looks like a slightly textured surface 281 00:11:42,167 --> 00:11:43,917 that might show subtle waves 282 00:11:44,042 --> 00:11:46,083 that represent natural ground features. 283 00:11:46,208 --> 00:11:49,792 So any stark changes or bizarre shapes that stand out 284 00:11:49,875 --> 00:11:53,292 could be things that aren't natural like voids or objects. 285 00:11:53,417 --> 00:11:56,167 But most of the GPR data that Thomas got 286 00:11:56,250 --> 00:11:58,917 over the drill site was a checkered mess 287 00:11:59,042 --> 00:12:02,250 of strange shapes that didn't make any sense. 288 00:12:02,375 --> 00:12:06,125 Which Jan believed were caused by the mysterious interference 289 00:12:06,208 --> 00:12:10,125 that his device detected even before we ran his scans. 290 00:12:10,208 --> 00:12:13,042 So we were all at a loss as to what the interference 291 00:12:13,208 --> 00:12:14,542 could have been caused by. 292 00:12:15,208 --> 00:12:17,750 Could this signal be coming from the ground? 293 00:12:17,875 --> 00:12:19,083 It could be coming from anywhere. 294 00:12:19,208 --> 00:12:20,542 We don't know, right? 295 00:12:20,708 --> 00:12:24,500 It is something that's strong enough to overwhelm the radar. 296 00:12:24,625 --> 00:12:28,458 ERIK: What exactly is responsible for this interference? 297 00:12:28,583 --> 00:12:29,750 I can't help but wonder 298 00:12:29,875 --> 00:12:32,708 is there something actually within the mesa generating 299 00:12:32,833 --> 00:12:34,833 radio frequency signals 300 00:12:34,917 --> 00:12:37,833 that could be causing interference? 301 00:12:37,917 --> 00:12:39,000 THOMAS: What would be the cause 302 00:12:39,125 --> 00:12:40,125 of this kind of interference? 303 00:12:40,208 --> 00:12:42,167 Do you think it's an environmental thing? 304 00:12:42,292 --> 00:12:45,792 Well, the weird part is it works now. 305 00:12:45,917 --> 00:12:47,333 When I take it away from the ranch. 306 00:12:47,417 --> 00:12:48,583 That's what I was going to ask you. 307 00:12:48,708 --> 00:12:49,625 JAN: I know you were going to ask that. 308 00:12:49,750 --> 00:12:51,667 I wanted to know if we could do a control. 309 00:12:51,792 --> 00:12:53,000 -And it sounds like you've already done it. -I can't... 310 00:12:53,125 --> 00:12:55,625 I can't replicate it. 311 00:12:56,667 --> 00:12:58,083 ERIK: That is such a... 312 00:12:58,208 --> 00:12:59,333 That is such an interesting observation. 313 00:12:59,458 --> 00:13:03,208 We can actually recover a little bit of the data, 314 00:13:03,375 --> 00:13:04,750 literally like ten percent of it, okay? 315 00:13:04,875 --> 00:13:07,833 -Ten percent of this data is usable. -And that's what we're seeing. 316 00:13:07,958 --> 00:13:12,000 TRAVIS: We've detected a number of weird frequencies and signals 317 00:13:12,083 --> 00:13:13,542 during our experiments on the ranch, 318 00:13:13,708 --> 00:13:15,792 but never like the one that interfered 319 00:13:15,917 --> 00:13:17,500 with Jan's GPR machines. 320 00:13:17,583 --> 00:13:19,500 And hearing that he was only able to recover 321 00:13:19,625 --> 00:13:23,375 ten percent of what was recorded on the mesa made us 322 00:13:23,500 --> 00:13:26,208 all pretty nervous that we wouldn't get any new information 323 00:13:26,333 --> 00:13:29,708 about just what may be buried inside there. 324 00:13:29,833 --> 00:13:32,750 JAN: What we can make out of that remaining ten percent 325 00:13:32,875 --> 00:13:34,375 I'm trying to see if there are any 326 00:13:34,500 --> 00:13:37,292 hyperbolic shapes, or things that look like horseshoes. 327 00:13:37,417 --> 00:13:39,917 That would indicate that that could be a void 328 00:13:40,042 --> 00:13:41,458 or something discrete in the ground. 329 00:13:41,583 --> 00:13:43,167 TRAVIS: And where do you see something like that? 330 00:13:43,292 --> 00:13:45,917 Well, well, there's subtle hints 331 00:13:46,042 --> 00:13:48,750 of things that pop out like here. 332 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:52,625 There's another one here. 333 00:13:54,542 --> 00:13:56,875 There's quite a few of them that are just scattered around. 334 00:13:58,167 --> 00:13:59,458 So, what that tells us, 335 00:13:59,583 --> 00:14:02,333 uh, there's a series of discrete anomalies. 336 00:14:02,417 --> 00:14:05,833 These are something that's different than rock, right? 337 00:14:05,917 --> 00:14:10,042 TRAVIS: I was amazed that the GPR data over the area 338 00:14:10,208 --> 00:14:12,500 where we've encountered the dome-shaped object 339 00:14:12,583 --> 00:14:16,208 showed numerous, and distinct other objects or voids 340 00:14:16,333 --> 00:14:17,833 that might not be natural. 341 00:14:17,917 --> 00:14:20,625 Now, I'm nowhere near ready to buy into the rumors 342 00:14:20,708 --> 00:14:23,292 that an alien base is buried in the mesa, 343 00:14:23,375 --> 00:14:25,833 but could there be a bunch of metal objects, 344 00:14:25,958 --> 00:14:27,500 or tunnels of some kind in there? 345 00:14:27,667 --> 00:14:31,375 If so, what could they be? And who put them there? 346 00:14:32,542 --> 00:14:35,167 -I know you did another survey. -We did quite a few. 347 00:14:35,292 --> 00:14:37,333 -That's actually got some data, right? -Absolutely. 348 00:14:37,458 --> 00:14:39,333 -BRYANT: I would love to see that. -JAN: Right. 349 00:14:39,458 --> 00:14:41,250 Okay, let me switch to that. 350 00:14:42,208 --> 00:14:44,167 In addition to the stuff that I did 351 00:14:44,292 --> 00:14:47,125 at the toe of the mesa, we climbed up to the top, 352 00:14:47,208 --> 00:14:49,333 and what I used is an even deeper penetrating radar, 353 00:14:49,417 --> 00:14:50,667 so this is a lower frequency 354 00:14:50,792 --> 00:14:53,292 and this is actually the deepest penetrating GPR in the world. 355 00:14:53,417 --> 00:14:54,292 Wow. 356 00:14:54,375 --> 00:14:56,375 -JAN: It's a very sensitive radar. -Okay. 357 00:14:56,500 --> 00:14:58,167 So, when we look at the cross-section there, 358 00:14:58,250 --> 00:14:59,667 you can see where I am on the, uh, 359 00:14:59,792 --> 00:15:01,333 on the map at the top of the screen there 360 00:15:01,417 --> 00:15:02,583 and you can see where the cursor is. 361 00:15:02,708 --> 00:15:06,333 Okay? So, as we're scrolling along, everything's fine 362 00:15:06,458 --> 00:15:08,833 and, uh, it keeps going fine until we get to... 363 00:15:08,917 --> 00:15:10,500 PETE: Ooh. 364 00:15:12,042 --> 00:15:13,000 Hello. 365 00:15:13,083 --> 00:15:15,708 -Look at that. -JAN: Look at that. 366 00:15:17,083 --> 00:15:19,333 This is highly anomalous. 367 00:15:19,458 --> 00:15:23,208 And this is a good six, seven meters across. 368 00:15:23,333 --> 00:15:26,917 It starts at about six, seven meters from the surface 369 00:15:27,042 --> 00:15:29,042 where I was and it extends down 370 00:15:29,167 --> 00:15:33,208 to about 40 meters which I guess about the height of the mesa. 371 00:15:34,458 --> 00:15:36,333 -Approximately, right? -To the base? 372 00:15:36,417 --> 00:15:38,333 JAN: To the base. 373 00:15:38,500 --> 00:15:40,125 The height of the mesa. 374 00:15:40,208 --> 00:15:42,250 -JAN: Right, so... -Whatever this is, is as tall as the mesa. 375 00:15:42,375 --> 00:15:43,542 JAN: Right. 376 00:15:44,625 --> 00:15:47,958 ERIK: What in the hell are we looking at here? 377 00:15:48,042 --> 00:15:51,042 This is six or seven meters across 378 00:15:51,208 --> 00:15:52,833 and the depth... 379 00:15:52,917 --> 00:15:53,708 From the surface, I mean, 380 00:15:53,833 --> 00:15:55,208 there is a bit of surface expression 381 00:15:55,375 --> 00:15:58,250 but it's about five, six meters. 382 00:15:58,375 --> 00:16:00,875 And we know that it's about 120 feet deep, 383 00:16:01,042 --> 00:16:05,125 -maybe 20 feet wide, and at least 12 feet north and south. -At least. 384 00:16:05,208 --> 00:16:07,458 All right? So it could be bigger. 385 00:16:07,542 --> 00:16:10,833 So, I can't tell you what that is, 386 00:16:10,958 --> 00:16:12,417 but it is highly anomalous. 387 00:16:14,250 --> 00:16:15,167 What's also interesting is, 388 00:16:15,292 --> 00:16:18,792 you know, we did 300 meters of line, 389 00:16:18,875 --> 00:16:20,792 -we don't see anything else like that. No. -You don't see it anywhere else? 390 00:16:20,917 --> 00:16:24,833 So it's coincidental where your drill site is. 391 00:16:26,667 --> 00:16:28,708 TRAVIS: What in this world could Jan 392 00:16:28,875 --> 00:16:31,375 have detected with his GPR device? 393 00:16:31,500 --> 00:16:34,167 It was right next to where we previously detected 394 00:16:34,250 --> 00:16:36,000 the dome-shaped metal object 395 00:16:36,125 --> 00:16:38,667 and it was at least 20 feet wide 396 00:16:38,792 --> 00:16:40,583 by 120 feet tall. 397 00:16:40,708 --> 00:16:42,875 Are they connected or related in some way? 398 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:44,958 We have to figure out how to get inside 399 00:16:45,083 --> 00:16:46,375 the mesa to know for sure. 400 00:16:46,542 --> 00:16:49,667 I'll tell you right now we know exactly 401 00:16:49,792 --> 00:16:52,625 -which boulders we need to be moving out of the way. -JAN: Yep. 402 00:16:52,708 --> 00:16:54,833 We've got a map right now of where there is an anomaly 403 00:16:54,958 --> 00:16:58,333 and it's only tens of feet into the mesa. 404 00:16:58,458 --> 00:17:00,625 We should be digging, drilling, moving rocks 405 00:17:00,708 --> 00:17:02,833 right there to find out what that is. 406 00:17:02,917 --> 00:17:04,917 ERIK: We did horizontal drilling last summer 407 00:17:05,042 --> 00:17:06,458 into the mesa. 408 00:17:06,542 --> 00:17:10,750 Collecting strange material fragments. 409 00:17:10,875 --> 00:17:12,208 Check this out. 410 00:17:12,333 --> 00:17:15,042 ERIK: Curious flakes of metal 411 00:17:15,167 --> 00:17:16,708 from within the mesa itself. 412 00:17:16,875 --> 00:17:20,042 These are materials of unknown origin. 413 00:17:20,167 --> 00:17:22,417 Wow, look at all the metal. 414 00:17:22,542 --> 00:17:24,792 ERIK: It's my ambition, and all of our ambition, 415 00:17:24,875 --> 00:17:27,458 to determine what this material really is, 416 00:17:27,542 --> 00:17:28,958 what it's doing there. 417 00:17:29,042 --> 00:17:31,958 BRYANT: There's no telling how much of this metallic crap 418 00:17:32,083 --> 00:17:33,625 there is still in that hillside. 419 00:17:33,708 --> 00:17:35,583 ERIK: We have to continue searching 420 00:17:35,708 --> 00:17:37,375 into the depths of the mesa. 421 00:17:37,542 --> 00:17:41,958 We know we've got a lot of iron-bearing material 422 00:17:42,083 --> 00:17:43,500 coming out of there with those other elements, 423 00:17:43,625 --> 00:17:44,958 tellurium, europium... 424 00:17:45,042 --> 00:17:48,625 That seems artificially manufactured, 425 00:17:48,750 --> 00:17:50,167 -not a natural process creating it. -Yeah. Yeah. 426 00:17:50,292 --> 00:17:52,167 It's even been described as something 427 00:17:52,292 --> 00:17:53,958 -having been made in a furnace. -Yeah. 428 00:17:54,042 --> 00:17:55,750 ERIK: It's not natural. 429 00:17:55,875 --> 00:17:58,417 THOMAS: I could line up a crane company to come out 430 00:17:58,542 --> 00:18:01,458 and start moving those boulders off. 431 00:18:01,542 --> 00:18:03,000 Uh, gonna have a little bit of site prep 432 00:18:03,125 --> 00:18:05,375 that needs to happen to get the crane back there. 433 00:18:05,500 --> 00:18:07,375 But I really think it would be beneficial 434 00:18:07,500 --> 00:18:08,792 to-to pull those boulders off 435 00:18:08,875 --> 00:18:10,625 and then let's bring in a drilling rig 436 00:18:10,708 --> 00:18:13,500 and let's try to pierce the mesa a little bit higher. 437 00:18:13,625 --> 00:18:16,083 I mean, if we do that, maybe that gets us up 438 00:18:16,208 --> 00:18:18,500 above that hard metal disk that's underneath. 439 00:18:18,625 --> 00:18:21,167 I'm... I'm all for it. 440 00:18:21,250 --> 00:18:23,125 -Yes. -And, uh, so I mean, 441 00:18:23,250 --> 00:18:24,292 we got our work cut out for us 442 00:18:24,375 --> 00:18:27,125 and we've got some spots that we didn't have before. 443 00:18:27,250 --> 00:18:28,875 And, Jan, I really appreciate the work that you've done. 444 00:18:29,042 --> 00:18:30,958 -My pleasure. -It's absolutely amazing. 445 00:18:31,083 --> 00:18:34,208 I want to get out there and start throwing rocks. 446 00:18:34,333 --> 00:18:37,292 TRAVIS: Let's go get a shovel and pick and start. 447 00:18:52,208 --> 00:18:53,417 BRYANT: Hey, Jake. 448 00:18:53,542 --> 00:18:54,667 -How are you? -Good to see you. 449 00:18:54,792 --> 00:18:56,167 -Good to see you. Hey, how you doing? -Hey, man. 450 00:18:56,292 --> 00:18:58,792 TRAVIS: A couple of days after Jan Francke presented us 451 00:18:58,917 --> 00:19:02,958 with the GPR data showing numerous anomalies in the mesa 452 00:19:03,083 --> 00:19:05,125 near the dome-shaped metal object 453 00:19:05,250 --> 00:19:06,333 we discovered last year... 454 00:19:06,458 --> 00:19:08,000 Getting ready to move some dirt. 455 00:19:08,125 --> 00:19:09,292 TRAVIS: ...Thomas Winterton brought local contractor 456 00:19:09,375 --> 00:19:13,583 Jake Huffman back out to the ranch to help prep the area 457 00:19:13,708 --> 00:19:16,542 for a major excavation so we can find out 458 00:19:16,708 --> 00:19:18,500 what could be buried in there. 459 00:19:18,667 --> 00:19:21,833 THOMAS: So, uh, Jake and I can bring this crane in. 460 00:19:21,958 --> 00:19:24,500 Obviously, we've got to get it across the canal, 461 00:19:24,625 --> 00:19:26,333 so we're just going to put a temporary 462 00:19:26,458 --> 00:19:28,250 little culvert in there. 463 00:19:28,375 --> 00:19:29,625 Then we can get the crane across 464 00:19:29,708 --> 00:19:31,458 and start moving some rocks. 465 00:19:31,542 --> 00:19:33,625 The crane needs 30 feet to be able 466 00:19:33,750 --> 00:19:35,167 to spread its outriggers out and we need 467 00:19:35,292 --> 00:19:37,458 to get him as close to those rocks as possible. 468 00:19:37,542 --> 00:19:40,125 Because we're estimating some of these rocks 469 00:19:40,208 --> 00:19:41,958 are going to weigh as much as 50,000 pounds. 470 00:19:42,042 --> 00:19:43,042 TRAVIS: Oh, I believe it, yeah. 471 00:19:43,167 --> 00:19:45,958 So, we're going to build a 30-foot by 30-foot pad 472 00:19:46,042 --> 00:19:48,583 back in there so we can get him right up next to those rocks. 473 00:19:48,708 --> 00:19:49,583 TRAVIS: Sounds good. 474 00:19:49,708 --> 00:19:54,333 In order to get the giant, 175-ton crane 475 00:19:54,458 --> 00:19:57,458 over to where we need to lift boulders off the mesa, 476 00:19:57,542 --> 00:19:59,833 it's going to be a massive project. 477 00:19:59,917 --> 00:20:03,875 First, Tom and Jake will have to move tons of earth 478 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:08,000 to form a bridge over the canal between the road and the mesa. 479 00:20:08,083 --> 00:20:11,500 Then, they have to clear and level off a good-sized pad, 480 00:20:11,625 --> 00:20:13,917 where they can park the crane close enough 481 00:20:14,042 --> 00:20:16,583 to remove many of the huge boulders. 482 00:20:16,708 --> 00:20:18,542 THOMAS: I think it's going to take us a couple days 483 00:20:18,708 --> 00:20:20,042 to get the pad ready. 484 00:20:20,167 --> 00:20:22,167 So I think we start slinging some dirt. 485 00:20:22,292 --> 00:20:22,917 Sounds good to me. 486 00:20:23,042 --> 00:20:25,667 Okay, we'll get out of your way. 487 00:20:26,667 --> 00:20:28,375 THOMAS: Watch yourself. 488 00:20:28,500 --> 00:20:29,833 ERIK: In preparation 489 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,833 for our surgical examination of the mesa, 490 00:20:31,958 --> 00:20:33,625 there's a lot of work that needs to be done. 491 00:20:33,708 --> 00:20:36,667 Thomas is having to put a culvert in place. 492 00:20:38,083 --> 00:20:42,208 -THOMAS: How does that look? -JAKE: Good to me. 493 00:20:45,458 --> 00:20:47,125 BRYANT: What we're doing here with these excavators 494 00:20:47,250 --> 00:20:49,458 and this massive crane 495 00:20:49,542 --> 00:20:51,167 is by far the largest scale 496 00:20:51,292 --> 00:20:53,083 that we've ever done here on Skinwalker Ranch. 497 00:20:53,208 --> 00:20:55,958 ERIK: I'll try to get across. 498 00:20:56,083 --> 00:20:57,917 BRYANT: This is a lot of work, it involves a lot of digging, 499 00:20:58,042 --> 00:20:59,333 but we need to get after it 500 00:20:59,417 --> 00:21:02,667 and I'm anxious to find out what's inside that mesa. 501 00:21:02,792 --> 00:21:05,875 It'll hopefully help us with some answers 502 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,958 as to what truly is going on, on Skinwalker Ranch. 503 00:21:16,958 --> 00:21:19,167 BURDETTE: I'm going to take the color camera 504 00:21:19,250 --> 00:21:22,625 and we're going to put it right up here. 505 00:21:22,750 --> 00:21:24,833 TRAVIS: I think just pull in right in here. 506 00:21:24,958 --> 00:21:26,792 Yeah, that'll be good, yeah. 507 00:21:26,917 --> 00:21:29,542 Since it was going to take several days to complete 508 00:21:29,667 --> 00:21:30,875 the prep work at the mesa... 509 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,125 Hey, Burdette. Everything okay? 510 00:21:33,208 --> 00:21:35,500 Yeah, so, who wants to operate the camera 511 00:21:35,625 --> 00:21:36,708 -while I tell them what to do back there? -I can do it. 512 00:21:36,833 --> 00:21:37,625 You want to do it? 513 00:21:37,708 --> 00:21:38,625 TRAVIS: ...later that evening, 514 00:21:38,708 --> 00:21:40,917 we welcomed Burdette Anderson 515 00:21:41,042 --> 00:21:43,333 from a company called Photron Cameras 516 00:21:43,417 --> 00:21:45,333 to help us with a new experiment at the triangle. 517 00:21:45,458 --> 00:21:47,083 Just hit the green button. 518 00:21:47,208 --> 00:21:49,833 TRAVIS: He specializes in a high-speed camera system 519 00:21:49,917 --> 00:21:52,417 that can shoot thousands of frames per second. 520 00:21:52,542 --> 00:21:54,125 Everything's talking correctly. 521 00:21:54,208 --> 00:21:56,833 Our eyes basically detect somewhere between 522 00:21:56,958 --> 00:21:59,000 24 and 30 frames per second. 523 00:21:59,125 --> 00:22:00,917 The advantage of using a high-speed camera out here 524 00:22:01,042 --> 00:22:03,167 is if you have things that are moving 525 00:22:03,292 --> 00:22:04,708 that you're just not quite catching, 526 00:22:04,833 --> 00:22:06,083 if you're ready for it, 527 00:22:06,208 --> 00:22:07,833 you can get a very good look at it. 528 00:22:07,958 --> 00:22:09,500 My camera will shoot at 100,000 529 00:22:09,625 --> 00:22:11,167 or a million frames per second. 530 00:22:11,292 --> 00:22:12,792 Let's load a rocket. 531 00:22:12,917 --> 00:22:14,625 -Red one first? -TRAVIS: Yeah. 532 00:22:14,708 --> 00:22:17,708 Our plan was to launch rockets up through the triangle 533 00:22:17,875 --> 00:22:21,458 where we've seen numerous UAPs and detected what we believe 534 00:22:21,542 --> 00:22:25,375 to be some kind of anomaly between 300 and 5,000 feet. 535 00:22:25,542 --> 00:22:26,917 -Okay, it's on? -Yeah. 536 00:22:27,042 --> 00:22:29,583 TRAVIS: While Burdette photographed each launch 537 00:22:29,708 --> 00:22:31,375 at a thousand frames per second, 538 00:22:31,542 --> 00:22:34,000 with both color and infrared cameras. 539 00:22:34,083 --> 00:22:35,917 Whoa, whoa, wait, what's this right here? 540 00:22:36,042 --> 00:22:37,000 What's this? What's this? 541 00:22:37,083 --> 00:22:38,875 TRAVIS: We got something! We got something! 542 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,042 When we've seen UAPs here in the past... 543 00:22:41,167 --> 00:22:43,667 A UAP appeared and vanished. 544 00:22:43,792 --> 00:22:45,625 ...we've gotten quick glimpses of them. 545 00:22:45,708 --> 00:22:48,083 -Hey, look, UAP right there! -Yep. 546 00:22:48,208 --> 00:22:50,833 TRAVIS: But then they tend to just disappear 547 00:22:50,958 --> 00:22:52,000 before we can really see what they are. 548 00:22:52,083 --> 00:22:54,208 -Are they always that bright? -And it's gone. 549 00:22:56,083 --> 00:22:59,250 Here we go. Let's go straight up. 550 00:22:59,375 --> 00:23:00,292 Tell me when you're good. 551 00:23:00,375 --> 00:23:02,333 That's fine. 552 00:23:02,417 --> 00:23:05,167 So we're hoping that Burdette's cameras 553 00:23:05,333 --> 00:23:06,917 will help us get a much better look at anything 554 00:23:07,042 --> 00:23:09,000 that might appear in the sky 555 00:23:09,125 --> 00:23:11,125 during our rocket launches tonight. 556 00:23:11,250 --> 00:23:12,625 I hope that works. All right. 557 00:23:12,708 --> 00:23:14,458 I learned about the investigations 558 00:23:14,542 --> 00:23:16,875 at Skinwalker Ranch through, uh, Travis 559 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,292 and some of the things they hadn't done yet 560 00:23:18,375 --> 00:23:20,167 is tried to catch things in high-speed, 561 00:23:20,292 --> 00:23:22,292 because there's so many fast-moving things 562 00:23:22,375 --> 00:23:23,667 that happen here that you don't get 563 00:23:23,750 --> 00:23:24,708 to grasp with your eye. 564 00:23:24,833 --> 00:23:26,292 And that's kind of where our Photron cameras 565 00:23:26,375 --> 00:23:27,292 come into play. 566 00:23:27,417 --> 00:23:28,625 We got it. 567 00:23:28,708 --> 00:23:29,625 BURDETTE: They slow down reality. 568 00:23:29,750 --> 00:23:31,583 So anything you can't see with your eye, 569 00:23:31,708 --> 00:23:32,833 we can catch with the cameras. 570 00:23:32,958 --> 00:23:35,625 And anything you just kind of saw with your eye, 571 00:23:35,750 --> 00:23:37,958 we can slow it down so you can get a very good look at it. 572 00:23:38,042 --> 00:23:40,667 TRAVIS: The rocket, it's ready to go. 573 00:23:40,792 --> 00:23:42,667 -All right, um... -Are you good? 574 00:23:42,833 --> 00:23:43,750 Yeah, it's on. 575 00:23:43,875 --> 00:23:46,500 -We're good, yep. -Hey, Erik, do you copy? 576 00:23:50,375 --> 00:23:52,042 All right, copy you. 577 00:23:52,167 --> 00:23:54,042 TRAVIS: Erik was stationed in the command center 578 00:23:54,167 --> 00:23:56,167 during the experiment, so he could monitor 579 00:23:56,292 --> 00:23:59,292 for any strange energy spikes out at the triangle 580 00:23:59,375 --> 00:24:02,458 and keep a close eye on the ranch surveillance cameras 581 00:24:02,583 --> 00:24:03,333 pointed in this direction. 582 00:24:03,417 --> 00:24:06,500 All right, here we go, here we go. 583 00:24:06,583 --> 00:24:09,000 -Okay. We're hot. -All right, everybody ready? 584 00:24:09,167 --> 00:24:10,333 Is everybody ready? 585 00:24:10,500 --> 00:24:13,583 Erik, be advised the rocket's hot. We're going hot now. 586 00:24:13,708 --> 00:24:15,958 Copy you, Travis. 587 00:24:16,042 --> 00:24:18,375 All right, here we go. In three... 588 00:24:18,500 --> 00:24:20,000 two, one... 589 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,292 Hey, did you see that? 590 00:24:25,375 --> 00:24:29,500 It turned before it could get to wherever the anomaly is. 591 00:24:29,667 --> 00:24:32,333 -How many times have we seen that happen? -Yeah. 592 00:24:32,500 --> 00:24:34,250 It's going to land right here behind us. 593 00:24:34,375 --> 00:24:37,000 Right after the first rocket launched, 594 00:24:37,083 --> 00:24:39,875 I noticed that in midair, it suddenly veered 595 00:24:40,042 --> 00:24:42,167 a little off course like it ran into something 596 00:24:42,292 --> 00:24:44,375 invisible that deflected it. 597 00:24:44,500 --> 00:24:47,000 Now, we've also seen that happen numerous times 598 00:24:47,167 --> 00:24:49,833 with other rockets and GPS devices at the triangle, 599 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,833 so I was really eager to immediately launch 600 00:24:52,958 --> 00:24:54,917 another rocket to see what would happen next. 601 00:24:56,750 --> 00:24:57,667 Isn't that crazy? 602 00:24:57,833 --> 00:25:01,292 Gosh, if it ain't one thing, it's another. 603 00:25:01,417 --> 00:25:03,542 TRAVIS: Hey, Kaleb, why don't you pull the Jeep around 604 00:25:03,708 --> 00:25:06,458 -and shine a light over here. -KALEB: Yep. 605 00:25:06,583 --> 00:25:09,458 ♪ ♪ 606 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,708 Let me download this image real quick 607 00:25:14,875 --> 00:25:17,000 and then we can look at it again later. 608 00:25:17,083 --> 00:25:19,250 Won't take long because there's not much in there. 609 00:25:19,375 --> 00:25:21,750 Okay, we're as good as we're gonna get. 610 00:25:21,875 --> 00:25:23,792 Hey, Erik, you copy? 611 00:25:23,917 --> 00:25:25,333 Yeah. Go ahead, Travis. 612 00:25:27,875 --> 00:25:29,458 -We good? -Yes, sir. 613 00:25:29,542 --> 00:25:31,833 TRAVIS: All right. 614 00:25:31,958 --> 00:25:34,792 Five, four, 615 00:25:34,917 --> 00:25:38,333 three, two, one. 616 00:25:40,875 --> 00:25:41,583 THOMAS: That is cool. 617 00:25:41,708 --> 00:25:43,292 TRAVIS: Oh, that one was awesome. 618 00:25:43,417 --> 00:25:44,250 Boy, that went up pretty high. 619 00:25:44,375 --> 00:25:46,833 That one may end up in the east field. 620 00:25:46,917 --> 00:25:50,042 KALEB: Hey, we got a light that's right there that's moving. 621 00:25:50,167 --> 00:25:52,083 -Where, where? -Right there, right above us. 622 00:25:52,208 --> 00:25:54,792 -What? Really? -Right there. 623 00:25:54,917 --> 00:25:56,042 Where? 624 00:25:56,167 --> 00:25:59,250 TRAVIS: Yeah! We got it! There it is, right there. 625 00:25:59,375 --> 00:26:00,958 Nah, this one's moving pretty fast. 626 00:26:01,083 --> 00:26:02,333 What is that? 627 00:26:02,458 --> 00:26:04,375 KALEB: That's not a plane. 628 00:26:11,875 --> 00:26:13,667 KALEB: That's not a plane. 629 00:26:13,750 --> 00:26:16,875 Erik. We've got an orange light across the river 630 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,792 on the, uh, southwest side. 631 00:26:19,875 --> 00:26:22,417 Moving pretty fast about treetop high. 632 00:26:22,542 --> 00:26:25,583 Look at that, it's still plenty bright. 633 00:26:25,708 --> 00:26:27,000 TRAVIS: Dang. 634 00:26:29,208 --> 00:26:31,667 Yes, I do, Travis. I will take a look. 635 00:26:40,083 --> 00:26:41,667 TRAVIS: I don't know where it came from, 636 00:26:41,750 --> 00:26:44,500 but just after we launched our second rocket 637 00:26:44,625 --> 00:26:45,667 at the triangle area, 638 00:26:45,792 --> 00:26:47,958 probably the most prominent UAP 639 00:26:48,083 --> 00:26:50,833 I've ever seen appeared over Skinwalker Ranch. 640 00:26:50,958 --> 00:26:54,625 Erik, we got something moving right overhead of us right now. 641 00:26:54,708 --> 00:26:58,917 It's moving slightly northeast, it's orange. 642 00:26:59,042 --> 00:27:01,333 And it doesn't look like a satellite. 643 00:27:01,417 --> 00:27:02,875 Do you see it in the cameras? 644 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,333 I'm going to try to track it. 645 00:27:06,750 --> 00:27:08,667 TRAVIS: You see it? 646 00:27:08,792 --> 00:27:11,250 Hey, come, hey, it looks like it's sped up. 647 00:27:11,375 --> 00:27:13,333 Does it look like it just sped up to y'all? 648 00:27:14,792 --> 00:27:17,792 TRAVIS: It just sped up. 649 00:27:17,875 --> 00:27:19,792 Erik, it's almost right over you now 650 00:27:19,875 --> 00:27:21,833 and it's moving really fast. 651 00:27:22,958 --> 00:27:24,458 All right. 652 00:27:26,708 --> 00:27:28,333 I'm not seeing it. 653 00:27:29,875 --> 00:27:31,542 Travis, I don't have it. 654 00:27:31,667 --> 00:27:35,583 Ask Erik if he's got anything on the ADS-B. 655 00:27:35,708 --> 00:27:37,958 Erik, is there anything on the ADS-B? 656 00:27:38,042 --> 00:27:41,208 It would be going east-northeast right now 657 00:27:41,333 --> 00:27:42,625 directly over the ranch. 658 00:27:45,792 --> 00:27:48,250 TRAVIS: I've never seen an aircraft maneuver like this thing, 659 00:27:48,375 --> 00:27:50,292 but Thomas was right to have Erik check his 660 00:27:50,375 --> 00:27:53,375 Automatic Dependent Surveillance Broadcasting tracker. 661 00:27:53,500 --> 00:27:55,833 It monitors the signals that airplanes and jets 662 00:27:55,958 --> 00:27:58,083 are required by law to emit. 663 00:28:00,125 --> 00:28:02,625 I've got eyes on the ADS-B map. 664 00:28:02,750 --> 00:28:06,708 ERIK: You know, I get aircraft as far out as 130 miles. 665 00:28:06,833 --> 00:28:10,083 There's nothing over us, there's nothing near us. 666 00:28:10,208 --> 00:28:12,042 It was clearly going due north 667 00:28:12,167 --> 00:28:14,208 and then it dog-legged and it sped up. 668 00:28:14,375 --> 00:28:17,375 -Yeah, it came across and then it like turned. -Yeah. 669 00:28:17,500 --> 00:28:20,417 It's still going, look at it. 670 00:28:20,542 --> 00:28:22,000 THOMAS: So, if that was a satellite, 671 00:28:22,125 --> 00:28:23,333 you'd expect it to start fading out. 672 00:28:23,417 --> 00:28:25,417 TRAVIS: By now, it'd be fading out. 673 00:28:25,542 --> 00:28:27,417 THOMAS: That's no satellite. 674 00:28:29,458 --> 00:28:31,458 TRAVIS: Did it just...? It just vanished. 675 00:28:31,583 --> 00:28:34,875 That thing stayed bright and just went away. 676 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,042 Well, I don't see it anymore. 677 00:28:36,167 --> 00:28:37,333 THOMAS: Well, I think we got to get that rocket up 678 00:28:37,458 --> 00:28:38,500 and see if we can make it... 679 00:28:38,625 --> 00:28:40,958 -TRAVIS: Yep, I hear you. -THOMAS: Replicate it. 680 00:28:41,042 --> 00:28:42,167 That was not a satellite. 681 00:28:42,250 --> 00:28:43,417 So what was that? 682 00:28:43,542 --> 00:28:45,167 Right here over the ranch. 683 00:28:47,417 --> 00:28:49,000 Yeah, go ahead, Thomas. 684 00:28:49,083 --> 00:28:52,000 -We're good? Okay. -TRAVIS: Yeah. 685 00:28:52,083 --> 00:28:53,708 One more sparky rocket. 686 00:28:53,875 --> 00:28:55,750 Okay, perfect. 687 00:28:55,875 --> 00:28:58,500 We couldn't wait to see if launching another rocket 688 00:28:58,625 --> 00:29:00,333 would evoke the UAP to reappear 689 00:29:00,458 --> 00:29:03,583 or stimulate another one or who knows what else. 690 00:29:05,375 --> 00:29:09,375 And also, I hoped that Burdette was getting great pictures 691 00:29:09,542 --> 00:29:11,542 that would help us figure out what it was. 692 00:29:11,667 --> 00:29:13,042 Hook the wires up. 693 00:29:13,208 --> 00:29:15,583 Uh, make sure it's off, hang on. 694 00:29:16,542 --> 00:29:18,125 -Are we good here? -Yeah, yeah, we're good. 695 00:29:18,208 --> 00:29:19,667 -Lights on? -Lights on. 696 00:29:19,792 --> 00:29:21,208 Hey, Erik, be advised: 697 00:29:24,125 --> 00:29:26,333 ...in about 15 seconds. Are you ready? 698 00:29:26,458 --> 00:29:27,833 I am ready. Go ahead. 699 00:29:27,958 --> 00:29:28,917 Are you ready, Burdette? 700 00:29:29,042 --> 00:29:30,833 -BURDETTE: Yes, sir. -KALEB: Yeah, we're good to go. 701 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,667 All right. Going in five, 702 00:29:33,833 --> 00:29:35,875 four, three, 703 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,667 two, one. 704 00:29:40,167 --> 00:29:41,333 Oh, we got a malfunction. 705 00:29:41,458 --> 00:29:43,292 Everybody watch out. 706 00:29:45,375 --> 00:29:49,667 Oh. Oh. Oh, it's on fire. 707 00:29:49,792 --> 00:29:53,000 TRAVIS: We got a fire. We got a fire. 708 00:29:53,083 --> 00:29:55,042 Oh, dang. 709 00:29:55,167 --> 00:29:56,167 TRAVIS: We shoot the rocket up 710 00:29:56,292 --> 00:29:58,500 and we-we're ready to launch this thing. 711 00:29:58,667 --> 00:30:00,083 And as the launch starts, it looks like 712 00:30:00,208 --> 00:30:01,750 a perfect launch from the beginning, 713 00:30:01,875 --> 00:30:03,375 and what we see is that 714 00:30:03,500 --> 00:30:05,333 the rocket takes off, 715 00:30:05,417 --> 00:30:07,292 clears the tower, gets to somewhere 716 00:30:07,375 --> 00:30:09,667 I'm estimating between 30 and 50 feet, 717 00:30:09,750 --> 00:30:12,833 and then suddenly there's a big flash of light 718 00:30:12,958 --> 00:30:15,750 and, uh, what sounded like a pop, 719 00:30:15,875 --> 00:30:17,292 maybe even an explosion. 720 00:30:17,375 --> 00:30:21,958 -It-It's burned out. -The motor burned out. 721 00:30:22,083 --> 00:30:26,250 -Holy crap. I've yet to see that. -Yeah. 722 00:30:26,375 --> 00:30:27,458 -What the heck? -What would cause that? 723 00:30:27,542 --> 00:30:28,875 What would cause that? 724 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:30,667 The motor blew up. 725 00:30:30,750 --> 00:30:33,958 It-it deflagrated inside the rocket. 726 00:30:34,042 --> 00:30:36,708 -Wow. -Hey, Erik, you copy? 727 00:30:42,375 --> 00:30:44,375 -Well... -It was worse than that. 728 00:30:44,500 --> 00:30:46,583 At about 30 feet off the launch pad... 729 00:30:54,375 --> 00:30:56,250 And started a fire. 730 00:30:56,375 --> 00:30:58,292 Well, let's go look at the high-speed 731 00:30:58,417 --> 00:31:01,333 because it should be right in that view. 732 00:31:01,417 --> 00:31:03,375 TRAVIS: We recovered it. 733 00:31:03,500 --> 00:31:05,417 -Holy crap. -Right? What a night. 734 00:31:05,542 --> 00:31:06,667 What... What... 735 00:31:06,792 --> 00:31:10,750 That motor blew up. It literally... it exploded. 736 00:31:10,875 --> 00:31:13,000 I've never seen, uh, I've seen experimental 737 00:31:13,083 --> 00:31:15,792 motors do that, Kaleb, but I've never seen 738 00:31:15,875 --> 00:31:18,083 a store-bought motor deflagrate like that. 739 00:31:18,208 --> 00:31:20,083 -Right there. -Got it. 740 00:31:20,208 --> 00:31:21,292 -Hey, Travis. -Yeah? 741 00:31:21,417 --> 00:31:24,042 We caught the malfunction on the high-speed. 742 00:31:24,167 --> 00:31:26,000 -Oh, really? -Yeah. 743 00:31:28,542 --> 00:31:31,917 Hey, check this out. There's something on the camera. 744 00:31:34,625 --> 00:31:37,333 BURDETTE: It's something I've never seen before. Check this out. 745 00:31:37,458 --> 00:31:38,250 So, as it's going, look what you've got... 746 00:31:38,375 --> 00:31:40,167 TRAVIS: There's something in the sky 747 00:31:40,250 --> 00:31:41,708 above the rocket, right here. 748 00:31:41,833 --> 00:31:44,042 KALEB: Yeah, look at that, look at the light... 749 00:31:47,417 --> 00:31:50,333 -No way. -Look at that (bleep)! 750 00:31:50,458 --> 00:31:51,625 -That's crazy. -There is literally something... 751 00:31:51,708 --> 00:31:55,500 We may be looking at the anomaly for the first time, guys. 752 00:31:55,625 --> 00:31:57,875 BURDETTE: That's crazy. 753 00:31:58,042 --> 00:31:59,625 TRAVIS: Oh, my God. 754 00:32:05,958 --> 00:32:08,208 TRAVIS: There is literally something. 755 00:32:08,333 --> 00:32:11,208 We may be looking at the anomaly for the first time, guys. 756 00:32:11,333 --> 00:32:12,792 Yeah, look at that. Look at the light. 757 00:32:12,875 --> 00:32:13,667 TRAVIS: All right, now the rocket gets there. 758 00:32:13,792 --> 00:32:14,708 THOMAS: Look how it veers to the side. 759 00:32:14,833 --> 00:32:15,958 TRAVIS: And then the rocket blows up 760 00:32:16,042 --> 00:32:18,000 -right when it hits it! -THOMAS: Oh, my God! 761 00:32:18,083 --> 00:32:19,042 (cheering and shouting) 762 00:32:19,167 --> 00:32:20,333 Right on! 763 00:32:20,417 --> 00:32:21,625 Right here. Look at that. 764 00:32:21,708 --> 00:32:22,500 Yeah! 765 00:32:22,625 --> 00:32:23,750 TRAVIS: Holy crap. 766 00:32:23,875 --> 00:32:26,042 All right, Burdette, could you play it one more time? 767 00:32:26,208 --> 00:32:27,917 I want to make sure I saw what I think I just saw. 768 00:32:28,042 --> 00:32:30,833 After four years of investigating 769 00:32:30,917 --> 00:32:32,000 Skinwalker Ranch as a team, 770 00:32:32,125 --> 00:32:36,625 we finally got good visual evidence of something 771 00:32:36,708 --> 00:32:38,083 incredible at the triangle. 772 00:32:38,208 --> 00:32:40,083 Just as we launched a rocket, 773 00:32:40,208 --> 00:32:44,083 Burdette Anderson captured some kind of blob-like feature 774 00:32:44,208 --> 00:32:46,083 on his high-speed camera that literally appeared 775 00:32:46,208 --> 00:32:50,125 out of nowhere and caused the rocket to explode. 776 00:32:50,250 --> 00:32:53,458 It was something that none of us could see with the naked eye. 777 00:32:53,542 --> 00:32:56,250 That cloud remained intact. The whole thing. 778 00:32:56,375 --> 00:32:59,792 This isn't an anomaly in the lens because it didn't move. 779 00:32:59,917 --> 00:33:00,958 TRAVIS: Could this be the phenomenon 780 00:33:01,083 --> 00:33:03,667 that causes the energy spikes we've detected? 781 00:33:03,833 --> 00:33:06,375 And is it related to the UAPs we've seen? 782 00:33:06,500 --> 00:33:09,208 All I know is we may finally be getting 783 00:33:09,333 --> 00:33:10,667 closer to possible answers. 784 00:33:10,750 --> 00:33:12,667 Think about all the rockets that hit 785 00:33:12,833 --> 00:33:15,292 about that same spot and veered off. 786 00:33:15,417 --> 00:33:18,292 So you can see it right there, there's something in the sky. 787 00:33:18,375 --> 00:33:20,500 -KALEB: It's already illuminated by the light. -TRAVIS: Yeah. 788 00:33:20,625 --> 00:33:21,833 THOMAS: There's not a cloud in the sky. 789 00:33:21,917 --> 00:33:24,125 TRAVIS: There's not a cloud in the sky. So what is it? 790 00:33:24,208 --> 00:33:25,458 THOMAS: And there's no dust. 791 00:33:25,542 --> 00:33:27,917 And then, look, it's almost there. 792 00:33:28,042 --> 00:33:30,000 Right there it's like it hits right on something 793 00:33:30,125 --> 00:33:31,333 or zap or whatever. 794 00:33:31,458 --> 00:33:32,667 -Boom. -Boom! 795 00:33:32,792 --> 00:33:34,875 -And it is exactly... -Oh, my God. 796 00:33:35,042 --> 00:33:36,833 -TRAVIS: You can't make it up. -BURDETTE: Oh, yeah. 797 00:33:36,958 --> 00:33:39,167 Usually I can explain everything I've seen 798 00:33:39,250 --> 00:33:40,542 in a high-speed camera when I record it. 799 00:33:40,667 --> 00:33:43,000 But when we shot the third rocket, 800 00:33:43,125 --> 00:33:45,292 as soon as that rocket started illuminating, 801 00:33:45,375 --> 00:33:47,333 we saw something that wasn't there in the second shot. 802 00:33:47,458 --> 00:33:49,167 I can't explain what it is. 803 00:33:49,292 --> 00:33:52,292 I've never seen anything like that come off a Photron camera. 804 00:33:52,375 --> 00:33:54,750 -Holy crap. -Oh, my God. 805 00:33:54,875 --> 00:33:58,750 Well, Travis, that's only 30... 30, 40 feet above us. 806 00:33:58,875 --> 00:34:02,083 Oh, my God. 40 feet high. 807 00:34:04,458 --> 00:34:06,625 What are the odds of that happening 808 00:34:06,708 --> 00:34:09,792 right there with other rockets in that same spot? 809 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,708 Last year, we attempted to launch 810 00:34:13,833 --> 00:34:16,542 a 15-foot tall rocket through the anomaly, 811 00:34:16,667 --> 00:34:18,167 -above the triangle. -Push and hold. 812 00:34:20,375 --> 00:34:22,417 ALLEN: Uh-oh. That motor blew. 813 00:34:22,542 --> 00:34:25,000 TRAVIS: And it exploded in nearly the same spot. 814 00:34:25,167 --> 00:34:27,333 Oh, no. Oh... 815 00:34:27,458 --> 00:34:28,792 TRAVIS: Shortly after that, 816 00:34:28,875 --> 00:34:32,625 we saw a UAP appear over the triangle... 817 00:34:32,708 --> 00:34:33,667 Look at that. Look at that. 818 00:34:33,750 --> 00:34:36,333 ...which then vanished into thin air. 819 00:34:36,458 --> 00:34:39,333 But what did it disappear into? 820 00:34:39,417 --> 00:34:43,167 BRANDON: Is it a portal? Are we seeing portals open? 821 00:34:43,250 --> 00:34:44,833 Yeah. 822 00:34:44,958 --> 00:34:47,833 I couldn't possibly know what this phenomenon was, 823 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:52,125 but we now have a clear location to focus our investigation. 824 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,000 Okay, we caught something cool. 825 00:34:55,083 --> 00:34:56,000 (laughter) 826 00:34:56,083 --> 00:34:57,083 (cheering) 827 00:34:57,208 --> 00:34:59,250 (laughter) 828 00:35:00,250 --> 00:35:02,667 TRAVIS: That's just more validation. 829 00:35:02,792 --> 00:35:04,375 We got to call Erik and tell him this. 830 00:35:04,500 --> 00:35:05,875 Erik, you are not going to believe 831 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:06,875 what the high-speed caught, 832 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,708 there is a thing in the sky, 833 00:35:08,833 --> 00:35:11,083 the rocket hits it and explodes. 834 00:35:11,208 --> 00:35:16,500 That is unbelievable. I want to see that footage. 835 00:35:16,583 --> 00:35:19,333 My gosh! (laughs) 836 00:35:19,458 --> 00:35:20,708 (helicopter whirring) 837 00:35:23,500 --> 00:35:25,417 Helicopter, helicopter! 838 00:35:25,542 --> 00:35:28,000 Helicopter coming right over! 839 00:35:28,875 --> 00:35:30,542 Erik, we got a helicopter right over 840 00:35:30,708 --> 00:35:33,292 the ranch right now, are you getting it? 841 00:35:36,208 --> 00:35:38,458 ERIK: I am getting no helicopter above the ranch 842 00:35:38,542 --> 00:35:40,833 on the ADS-B receiver here. 843 00:35:40,917 --> 00:35:44,042 TRAVIS: We have a helicopter right over the triangle. 844 00:35:44,167 --> 00:35:45,708 KALEB: Hey, it just went dark. 845 00:35:45,875 --> 00:35:47,708 And it just vanished, 846 00:35:47,833 --> 00:35:49,500 but we still hear it. Ah, now it's there again. 847 00:35:49,625 --> 00:35:51,667 -There's its light right there. -It went behind the anomaly! 848 00:35:51,792 --> 00:35:54,208 THOMAS: That's a bigger helicopter. 849 00:35:54,375 --> 00:35:55,208 Why? Why right now? 850 00:35:55,375 --> 00:35:56,792 Why right now? 851 00:35:56,875 --> 00:35:58,917 (helicopter whirring) 852 00:36:01,292 --> 00:36:04,000 Erik, it came over us. 853 00:36:04,125 --> 00:36:06,125 We lost the lights for a second 854 00:36:06,250 --> 00:36:07,792 and then it turned away from the anomaly 855 00:36:07,875 --> 00:36:10,333 and turned southeast. 856 00:36:11,750 --> 00:36:14,208 Well, whoever they were, they weren't transponding. 857 00:36:15,208 --> 00:36:18,000 A helicopter that size not transponding? 858 00:36:18,167 --> 00:36:20,458 -Well, did you see... -TRAVIS: Right after we did this! 859 00:36:20,583 --> 00:36:22,000 KALEB: The helicopter looks like it's... 860 00:36:22,125 --> 00:36:23,625 -TRAVIS: The helicopter is turning around. -KALEB: ...coming back around. 861 00:36:23,708 --> 00:36:25,292 Helicopter's turning back around, Erik. 862 00:36:25,375 --> 00:36:27,500 I've got eyes on him. 863 00:36:29,833 --> 00:36:31,417 THOMAS: Where did that just come out of? 864 00:36:31,542 --> 00:36:33,333 It's coming back... 865 00:36:35,250 --> 00:36:38,458 Erik, that helicopter is coming back at us. Do you see that? 866 00:36:38,583 --> 00:36:40,083 Yeah, I've got him. 867 00:36:41,917 --> 00:36:44,125 All right, now you're mine. 868 00:36:52,500 --> 00:36:55,417 The aircraft is not transponding... 869 00:36:57,083 --> 00:36:58,875 And it's slowing down. And it's-it's doing... 870 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,292 It-It's orbiting the ranch. 871 00:37:02,958 --> 00:37:05,292 It's doing surveillance right now of the ranch. 872 00:37:13,292 --> 00:37:15,542 We have a helicopter right over the triangle 873 00:37:15,667 --> 00:37:18,208 right now right overhead. 874 00:37:18,375 --> 00:37:20,750 It's doing surveillance right now of the ranch. 875 00:37:20,875 --> 00:37:22,583 (helicopter whirring) 876 00:37:23,833 --> 00:37:24,833 They're definitely watching. 877 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,375 They're definitely over the ranch looking at us. 878 00:37:28,583 --> 00:37:33,125 THOMAS: Shortly after this UAP sighting and after this rocket blows up, 879 00:37:33,208 --> 00:37:36,458 all of a sudden a helicopter comes flying directly over us. 880 00:37:37,417 --> 00:37:38,708 Look at 'em, they're turning again. 881 00:37:38,833 --> 00:37:41,375 -TRAVIS: Yeah, they are clearly... -They are watching. 882 00:37:41,500 --> 00:37:44,042 KALEB: And then we also had that other light that we saw, earlier. 883 00:37:44,208 --> 00:37:45,167 Yep. 884 00:37:45,292 --> 00:37:48,083 As that helicopter is sitting there hovering, 885 00:37:48,208 --> 00:37:50,083 my mind is immediately 886 00:37:50,208 --> 00:37:51,750 trying to figure out who this could be 887 00:37:51,875 --> 00:37:53,667 that's watching us. 888 00:37:53,833 --> 00:37:56,667 Hey, Erik, uh, are you sure 889 00:37:56,750 --> 00:37:57,667 that there's nothing on the ADS-B? 890 00:37:57,792 --> 00:37:59,167 Travis, 891 00:37:59,333 --> 00:38:01,083 this helicopter is not transponding 892 00:38:01,208 --> 00:38:03,333 as far as I can tell. 893 00:38:03,417 --> 00:38:06,167 Because I'm getting aircraft 100 miles to the south of here. 894 00:38:08,292 --> 00:38:09,375 So, it's not a connectivity issue. 895 00:38:09,542 --> 00:38:13,292 And he's staying right over us and orbiting and orbiting. 896 00:38:13,417 --> 00:38:16,083 Well, someone's taken an interest in what we're doing. 897 00:38:17,208 --> 00:38:20,250 There's nothing over us. There's nothing near us. 898 00:38:20,375 --> 00:38:23,708 And he has not shown up at all. 899 00:38:23,875 --> 00:38:27,833 This is an aircraft that is deliberately not transponding 900 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,500 while flying over the ranch. 901 00:38:30,583 --> 00:38:32,917 All I know is there's an aircraft flying after night, 902 00:38:33,042 --> 00:38:34,583 which means they got night vision. 903 00:38:34,708 --> 00:38:37,042 TRAVIS: There are not any commercial helicopters 904 00:38:37,208 --> 00:38:39,333 around here with night vision capability. 905 00:38:39,417 --> 00:38:42,333 The only thing this could be then is a military helicopter. 906 00:38:42,458 --> 00:38:46,750 What is the military doing flying over Skinwalker Ranch 907 00:38:46,875 --> 00:38:48,000 while we're doing this experiment, 908 00:38:48,083 --> 00:38:49,833 and while we find something 909 00:38:49,958 --> 00:38:51,333 that we've never seen before? 910 00:38:53,042 --> 00:38:54,417 I don't like the feeling of that. 911 00:38:54,542 --> 00:38:57,833 TRAVIS: I don't like that crap either. 912 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,375 Hey, Erik? Uh... 913 00:39:00,500 --> 00:39:02,542 Are you, do you have any of the ranch cameras 914 00:39:02,667 --> 00:39:05,000 on that helicopter? 915 00:39:05,125 --> 00:39:09,500 Yeah, I've got multiple of the ranch cameras on him. 916 00:39:09,583 --> 00:39:12,125 He is sitting still and hovering, watching us. 917 00:39:12,208 --> 00:39:14,333 ERIK: That is exactly right. 918 00:39:14,458 --> 00:39:16,000 TRAVIS: It's really spooking us 919 00:39:16,083 --> 00:39:18,167 and, uh, pissing us off at the same time. 920 00:39:18,333 --> 00:39:21,292 I'm right there with you, Travis. 921 00:39:22,458 --> 00:39:25,125 Well, Travis, it's pretty clear somebody has taken 922 00:39:25,250 --> 00:39:27,500 an interest in what we're doing. 923 00:39:27,583 --> 00:39:29,667 It-it really... It's a little bit scary. 924 00:39:33,333 --> 00:39:35,375 THOMAS: They're leaving. 925 00:39:35,500 --> 00:39:37,042 How long did they stay there, like four or five minutes? 926 00:39:37,167 --> 00:39:39,125 Oh, ten minutes. 927 00:39:40,708 --> 00:39:42,000 THOMAS: What the heck? 928 00:39:42,167 --> 00:39:46,125 -And now they're headed back towards, uh... Roosevelt. -Roosevelt. 929 00:39:46,208 --> 00:39:49,000 They are all but gone now. 930 00:39:49,083 --> 00:39:51,333 TRAVIS: It-it came by to show us that it knew 931 00:39:51,500 --> 00:39:53,042 we were doing something, I don't know. 932 00:39:53,167 --> 00:39:56,000 It's possible somebody saw rockets 933 00:39:56,083 --> 00:39:58,500 and they called, you know, the ATF or something 934 00:39:58,625 --> 00:40:00,042 and that was an ATF... 935 00:40:00,167 --> 00:40:01,875 ATF has a helicopter in the Uinta Basin? 936 00:40:02,042 --> 00:40:04,667 Uh, they could have hired somebody, right? 937 00:40:04,792 --> 00:40:07,042 There are no helicopters out here equipped with night vision. 938 00:40:07,167 --> 00:40:08,458 TRAVIS: That's a good point. 939 00:40:08,583 --> 00:40:11,000 I mean, there's not a military base nearby. 940 00:40:11,167 --> 00:40:12,958 -No. -I mean right here that has helicopters. 941 00:40:13,083 --> 00:40:13,958 -We're talking minutes. -Yeah. 942 00:40:14,083 --> 00:40:15,042 Who alerted them that fast? 943 00:40:15,167 --> 00:40:16,542 And where was that helicopter? 944 00:40:16,708 --> 00:40:17,667 Where did it come from? 945 00:40:17,792 --> 00:40:18,750 How did it get here so quick? 946 00:40:18,875 --> 00:40:20,708 It's well known that the federal government 947 00:40:20,833 --> 00:40:23,250 investigated Skinwalker Ranch in the past. 948 00:40:23,375 --> 00:40:25,375 But I'm not aware of any 949 00:40:25,542 --> 00:40:27,417 current government investigations here. 950 00:40:27,542 --> 00:40:31,042 So are we being spied on while we conduct our operations? 951 00:40:31,167 --> 00:40:33,333 I don't know, but I want to find out. 952 00:40:33,458 --> 00:40:35,792 THOMAS: What a night! 953 00:40:35,917 --> 00:40:38,958 Hey, look, uh, we've got a lot of equipment here, 954 00:40:39,042 --> 00:40:40,042 it's getting late. 955 00:40:40,167 --> 00:40:41,708 Well, let's get cleaned up, shall we? 956 00:40:41,833 --> 00:40:42,542 -Yes. -All right. 957 00:40:42,708 --> 00:40:43,875 TRAVIS: All right, well, let's pack up. 958 00:40:44,042 --> 00:40:45,250 THOMAS: Let's get wrapped up. 959 00:40:45,375 --> 00:40:49,417 ERIK: What the heck is going on in that space above this area? 960 00:40:49,542 --> 00:40:51,292 What are we seeing? 961 00:40:51,417 --> 00:40:53,667 Is there in fact exotic physics playing out 962 00:40:53,792 --> 00:40:55,333 in the space just above the triangle? 963 00:40:55,458 --> 00:40:58,000 That's what we hope to find out. 964 00:40:58,125 --> 00:41:02,708 TRAVIS: We may have found a real unexplained phenomena 965 00:41:02,875 --> 00:41:04,250 above the triangle 966 00:41:04,375 --> 00:41:06,667 that nobody has ever seen ever before. 967 00:41:06,792 --> 00:41:10,250 Could this new anomaly, this blob, 968 00:41:10,375 --> 00:41:12,167 be the cause of each of these incidents 969 00:41:12,292 --> 00:41:13,667 over the triangle? 970 00:41:13,750 --> 00:41:16,667 BRANDON: We are on the verge of getting the very answers 971 00:41:16,833 --> 00:41:18,667 that we've been seeking for years. 972 00:41:18,792 --> 00:41:21,333 We've made incredible progress in documenting 973 00:41:21,458 --> 00:41:22,667 the reality of the phenomenon. 974 00:41:22,750 --> 00:41:25,167 We are just getting started 975 00:41:25,333 --> 00:41:28,500 in scratching the surface of what we are really dealing with 976 00:41:28,583 --> 00:41:31,917 here at Skinwalker Ranch. 977 00:41:36,375 --> 00:41:39,125 THOMAS: I've arranged for a crane to come in and to lift a lot 978 00:41:39,208 --> 00:41:41,833 of these big rocks at the bottom of the mesa. 979 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,417 This 1.6 gigahertz signal seems to be coming 980 00:41:45,542 --> 00:41:47,083 from right there where that big crane is. 981 00:41:47,208 --> 00:41:50,500 ERIK: We're going to probe that space down at the triangle. 982 00:41:50,583 --> 00:41:53,083 Kaleb will be releasing projectiles. 983 00:41:54,458 --> 00:41:55,542 Holy crap. 984 00:41:55,708 --> 00:41:59,000 This is a video recording taken from the triangle. 985 00:41:59,083 --> 00:42:00,667 -Right there. -Holy cow! 986 00:42:00,792 --> 00:42:03,083 CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY A+E NETWORKS