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TRAVIS:
I'm Dr. Travis Taylor,

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and I've spent
nearly four decades working

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as a scientist
for the federal government,

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and also in the private sector,
trying to understand

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the nature of our universe and

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to answer a question
that so many

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across the world have
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Are we alone?

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And for the past five years,

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I've been a part of a team
investigating a place

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that is infamous for UAP
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mysterious animal mutilations

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and even incredible reports
of interdimensional portals.

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It's known as Skinwalker Ranch.

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-This just changed directions!
-ERIK: Wow.

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-Did that go
right behind the mesa?
-There's more.

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TRAVIS:
During our investigation...

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It came right out of the mesa!

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...we've obtained
shocking evidence...

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Whoa! We got something
on the FLIR.

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-ERIK: Wow. I think
that may be formation flying.
-Really?

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...of not only
those phenomena...

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That's a nuts-and-bolts
aircraft, and it was flying.

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...but much, much more.

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Erik, are you doing
something at 1.6?

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I'm not broadcasting.

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TRAVIS:
That's a communication signal
or something.

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So, now, as I rejoin the team

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to launch
the most ambitious phase

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of our investigation yet,

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I wonder just what we'll find
next at Skinwalker Ranch

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and what answers
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about the true nature
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NARRATOR:
There is a ranch
in Northern Utah.

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It is considered the epicenter

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of the strangest and most
disturbing phenomena on Earth:

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animal mutilations,

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bizarre UFO sightings

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and unusual energies that have
proven harmful to humans.

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For 20 years,
the federal government

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tried to find answers
and failed.

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Now a new team
of dedicated scientists,

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researchers and experts
has taken over.

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They are determined to solve
the mystery and reveal...

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...The Secret
of Skinwalker Ranch.

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CAMERON:
Skinwalker Ranch command center,

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this is Cameron with Brandon
inbound in the helicopter.

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We'll be landing here shortly.

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BRYANT:
We got eyes on you. Copy you.

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Command center
awaiting your arrival.

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CAMERON:
Excellent. Thanks, Dragon.

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BRANDON:
I'm really, really anxious
to get to work.

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It'll be great to set down

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and to kick off this next phase
of the investigation.

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You know, I think
about everything

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that's been accomplished so far,

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and every time we push
the ranch, it pushes back.

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And we get more
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and more and more data,
and strangeness, quite frankly.

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Yeah. Well, if last year's
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of what we may see here
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I think we're in
for some exciting times.

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BRANDON:
What drives us this year
is a quest for answers.

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So, I think it's important

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as we pull together the agenda
to be addressing

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what is a constantly changing
set of variables and problems.

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Also, who are we going
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And what kind of equipment
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in service
to getting the answers?

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-Well, Jim.
-Hey, Brandon.

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-Nice to see you.
-Anthropologist.

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ERIK:
We're enthusiastic
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but I sense the lingering
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of all that we found last year
and of what it might mean.

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Let's jump in.

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ERIK: But there are some things

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that we want to try that have

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not been on the table until now.

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BRANDON:
It's good to be back together.

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This last year's investigation
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yielded, as we all know,
historic results.

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So I think we all know

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how important this is, and

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-the world is watching.
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BRANDON:
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third-party experts
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really helped bring,
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and better focus
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So, I'm really excited
to have Jim Royston

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and the team at OmniTeq

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joining us full-time
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and has helped us instrument
the property like never before.

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ROYSTON:
Yeah, absolutely.

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You know, we're just glad
to be part of it.

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Our goal was to really look
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for having a distributed array
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that are at all these unique
locations within this property.

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-Um, I'm excited
to see what it yields.
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ERIK:
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no shortage of anomalies
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So, you know, we've got

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a lot of planned activities, um,

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some of them based in the work
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we were all together.
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the east field,
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Homestead Two,

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-and of course, the mesa...
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...where we've talked
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that we're going to do some
exploratory drilling so that

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we can look around inside
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But, you know, to date
we're still just beginning

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to get our heads around
what we might be running into.

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TRAVIS:
Whoa! Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa!

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Middle of the day, an orb like
that showing up? That's crazy.

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TRAVIS: Last year,
we documented more phenomena

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than ever before
all across Skinwalker Ranch.

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Whoa. What was that purple
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TRAVIS:
Look at that.

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What is that?

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But one of the most
perplexing mysteries

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is something we first
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A 400-foot-long,
dome-shaped object

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that's proven to be impenetrable

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during two different
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But we did recover
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in the spoils that,
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are made of similar materials
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to protect the surface
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So, what could this thing be?

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This year,
we intend to find out.

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So, the anomaly in the mesa--

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I think that's something
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to examine in much more detail.

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-Yeah.
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We definitely need to get
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We're trying to game-plan of how

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get more data on what possibly
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And I have to say how dangerous
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ERIK:
Yeah. Even in recent weeks,

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we've observed that that

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mesa face has become
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THOMAS:
Well, then, you know,
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into late fall last year,
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another cow just drop straight
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under this large tree here
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she walked over there
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Do you have pictures
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I've got them here, actually,
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-this was going to come up.
-I would love to see that.

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ERIK:
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you'll see that black mass here

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that is, in fact, the cow,
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What was really fascinating
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that the legs were tucked up
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It was as if she came
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TRAVIS:
Well, you know,
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probably 50 meters from where
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-Right?
-Mm-hmm. Yeah.

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Maybe there's something
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BRANDON:
So, plotting the course ahead,

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establishing the agenda,
what do you have planned?

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Well, given that the center
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at least in the sky, has been
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it only stands to reason,
we got to follow up on that.

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The triangle is an epicenter

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of high activity,
high strangeness.

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TRAVIS:
There's no place
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where we've documented more
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and GPS anomalies to UAPS--
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TRAVIS:
Oh, we got a malfunction.

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Everybody watch out!

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Last year,
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Check this out. Got a reflection
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TRAVIS: There's something
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...when we captured high-speed
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that may have caused a rocket to
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And later on,
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helped us obtain infrared
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surrounding a black void right
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There was a really
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from the Hubble in 2019
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the Event Horizon telescope
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-Erik, if you have that,
would you bring that up?
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TRAVIS:
Uh, those are pictures
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and if you look...

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ERIK:
Wow.

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TRAVIS:
Those look almost just like
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around whatever the heck
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-Wow.
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this is even more exciting to me

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in that,
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it would've ripped
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and killed everybody.

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And since that didn't happen,
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But it's something else
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-very similar to a black hole.
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what it actually is.

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BRANDON: Yeah, so,
I'm excited to kick off

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the most aggressive experiment
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ERIK:
Yeah, this is unlike any
experiment we've done before.

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-Yeah.
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uh, sky-ops, meaning
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-two helicopters involved.
-That's correct.

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And we are also going
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We're going to be observing
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Monitoring this experiment

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involving sending signals
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between the two aircraft,

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as well as down to the ground.

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-Speaking of which...
-I think I hear him.

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BRANDON:
Right on cue.

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CAMERON:
He'll be landing
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ERIK:
Once he gets on the ground,
we'll go and take a look

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at mounting points
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and get our equipment installed

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and get ready
for the experiment.

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CAMERON:
It's the first time
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circling over the anomaly.

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-I'm excited
to see what it yields.
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What an extraordinary way

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to kick off
this next phase of research.

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TRAVIS:
With this first experiment,

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Erik and I hope
to finally get answers

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about what the blob

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and the bizarre ring and void

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that we documented last year
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Could they really be related

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to some kind of
traversable wormhole?

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And if so, does that explain
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UAPs we've seen
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and all the other
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that keeps happening
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BRANDON:
The next few hours
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CAMERON: Gentlemen, I'd like to
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-with Wasatch Helicopters.
-BROCK: Hey. Nice to meet you.

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-BROCK: Good to meet you guys.
-Hey, Brock. I'm Bryant.

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TRAVIS: To help us conduct
our first experiment of the year

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at the triangle,

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Cameron Fugal arranged
for his colleague

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Brock Wilson to fly a second
helicopter out to the ranch.

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Thanks for your help
and bringing your beautiful

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-machine out.
-Thanks for having me.

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I know we've spoken before
and talked a little bit about

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the experiment that we want
to perform in the air

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-over the triangle out there...
-Yes.

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...broadcasting some signals

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between the helicopters
and, also, down into the ground.

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As Travis likes to say,
you'll be flying

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a push-broom pattern
at various altitudes,

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starting at low altitude
and going to high.

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-How high up are we going?
-Five to six thousand feet

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at the top end.

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Okay.

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-Great.
-THOMAS: Well, let's get
these birds in the air.

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-All right. Let's go to work.
-Let's do it.

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TRAVIS:
I will be in chopper one
with Brock,

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and Erik will be in chopper two
with Thomas and Cameron.

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And we're going to ascend
in a synchronized pattern

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to identify the actual size
of the area above the triangle

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that we call
the "anomalous zone."

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I got a GPS tracker here

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-that I want to tape
to your skids.
-BROCK: Okay.

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TRAVIS:
This is where we've documented
many anomalies,

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or strange occurrences,

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like UAPs, bizarre radio signals
and GPS errors

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between about 31
to 10,000 feet in the air.

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So, as we ascend
to various altitudes,

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I'm going to transmit
a 1.6 gigahertz frequency signal

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over to Erik.

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That's a signal we've been
detecting frequently

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on the ranch during
many of our experiments.

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And it's left us baffled

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because that frequency
is reserved by the military

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for tracking communications
between satellites

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and the ground.

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So it's got us questioning,

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who's making those transmissions
on the ranch and why?

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During the experiment,
if we see any breaks

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in the 1.6 gigahertz signal

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going between chopper one
and chopper two,

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we're hoping that
the GPS devices we've attached

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to the helicopters
will help us identify

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just exactly where it happens.

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And, also,
if it's one big anomaly

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or something that's moving
around above the triangle.

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TRAVIS: Now,
while we're in the choppers,

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Jim Royston will be
on the ground

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scanning the triangle
with his infrared lidar drone.

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-ROYSTON: That looking good?
-KALEB: That looks good
on the top.

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TRAVIS:
So if there are any breaks

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in the 1.6 gigahertz signal,

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hopefully,
Jim can capture clear images

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of what we're dealing with.

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I'll have you hold onto that.

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TRAVIS: And since it's been
an effective tool

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in past experiments,
we're also planning

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to launch rockets
to probe the area

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and try and stimulate phenomena
to occur above the triangle.

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CAMERON (over walkie):
Think we're ready to roll here.

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Yeah, you go ahead
and start it, buddy.

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BRYANT:
Looks like they're
about ready to go.

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All right, five, four,

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three, two, one.

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Light up.

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He's coming up.

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BRANDON (over walkie):
He's coming up, too.

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BRYANT:
Last year, we ended off

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with so many crazy things,

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so to be back here with the guys
to kick off this investigation,

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I'm excited, and yet,
a little bit cautious

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about what we might come across.

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ROYSTON:
We'll let 'em know I'm gonna
put the drone in the air.

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Hey, helicopter,
he's about to launch his drone.

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He's gonna stay
at about 60 feet.

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BROCK:
Yeah?

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ERIK:
I was watching very closely
for that 1.6 gigahertz signal

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being broadcast from
Travis's RF signal generator

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as we flew around,

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and at one point, it disappears

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for-for a rather extended period
of time, and then reappears.

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I don't know what that is.

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Okay.

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Uh...

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TRAVIS:
It was odd when Erik saw a break
in the signal at 200 feet.

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So when the signal
between the helicopters

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was broken again as we reached
the 500-foot level,

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it made us wonder
if there's one huge anomaly

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causing the disruption,
or was it something

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traveling upwards with us
from one altitude to the next?

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BRYANT:
So, they're basically

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doing their push broom,
they're moving up about 200 feet

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-at a time each pass.
-Right.

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And then Cameron's tracking,
and it sounds like, a few times,

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they've lost the signal.

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-Right here.
-BRANDON: Really?
It keeps blinking out?

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ROYSTON:
Getting a little bit
of a weird signal right there.

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BRYANT:
Like what?

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I was starting to lose GPS
just right in this area.

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-BRYANT: Interesting.
-Strange.

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TRAVIS:
It was strange enough
that we kept losing

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the signal connection
between the helicopters

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at each 200-foot increment
above the triangle.

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But when the drone started
getting GPS interference,

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that really suggested
that everybody's equipment

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was being affected
by some kind of phenomenon,

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and we needed
to keep going higher

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to see if it would continue.

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TRAVIS:
When the two helicopters

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reached 700 feet
above the triangle,

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we finally saw
that a clear pattern

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in the signal disruption
was indeed occurring.

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Every time Cameron's helicopter
passed through

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the northern region
of the anomalous zone,

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the signal between
the choppers was broken.

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So, that made me think
we should go up

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a lot higher to see
what would happen next.

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BROCK:
Yeah.

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Copy that.

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We'll go ahead
and launch the rocket here.

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TRAVIS:
Once we got up to 3,000 feet,
it was time to launch a rocket

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to see if we could stimulate

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whatever this anomaly was
to appear,

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or at least see
if we could get some GPS data

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to pinpoint its position.

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BRYANT:
Rocket's going up in five,

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four, three,

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two, one.

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The rocket's away.

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-You see that GPS jump?
-Yep.

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SAM:
Looks like he, uh,

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instantaneously
changed altitude.

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KALEB:
I don't think Brock did that.

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The GPS data is showing
the helicopter

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making this big jump,

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and what we're looking for
with these blue dots

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is a consistent movement
across the screen.

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So if there's anything
outside of a regular interval

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between these dots,
that's some anomalous activity.

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Uh, so, we have a pretty good...

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-Yeah.
-...GPS anomaly right there,
I'd say.

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CAMERON: I don't know
what's going on with that GPS,

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but something is not right.

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KALEB: Looks like we're
missing some data already.

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BRYANT: So,
we're missing GPS points?

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Is that what
you're saying, Kaleb?

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KALEB:
Yes.

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SAM: Yeah, you are missing
a lot of data.

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TRAVIS: Just as
we were conducting

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our first new experiment

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of the year on Skinwalker Ranch,

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almost immediately

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we encountered something very
strange high above the triangle.

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BRANDON: Is this typical, to see
these kind of gaps in the data?

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SAM:
No.

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TRAVIS: While I was broadcasting
the 1.6 gigahertz signal

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from the helicopter

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over to Erik's
spectrum analyzer

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in Cameron Fugal's helicopter,

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something strange
consistently broke

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our connection
in the northern region,

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even as we kept climbing
higher and higher in altitude.

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And then, right after Dragon
launched a rocket up through

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the center of the triangle,
Cameron reported

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that the helicopter's GPS system
immediately stopped working.

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So, the question was,
were these things related

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to the blob
that we saw here last year?

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TRAVIS: My 1.6 gigahertz signal
stopped being blocked

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once the helicopter
that Erik was in

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left the north side
of the triangle.

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So, we couldn't wait
to see what would happen

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once he got repositioned
in that area 4,000 feet high.

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So we've lost the signal.

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TRAVIS: Once I figured out that
Erik was receiving my signal

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when his chopper was on
the south side of the triangle,

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but then was blocked
by something

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whenever he reached
the north side...

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All right.

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...I wanted to see

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what would happen

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when I broadcast a signal

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from my generator
on the ground

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to Erik in chopper two
in the air.

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BRYANT:
Okay.

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Okay.

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00:24:12,208 --> 00:24:14,167
Hey, Cameron,

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can you get 300 feet
above the triangle

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and see if
you can pick up Travis' signal?

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00:24:23,792 --> 00:24:26,000
Go ahead and radio up
to them, Dragon.

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Tell them I'm in position.

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I am broadcasting.

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00:24:29,500 --> 00:24:32,625
Hey, Cameron,
Travis is in position and

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he is broadcasting to 1.6.

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Confirming if you can
see that signal or not.

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00:24:51,042 --> 00:24:52,750
-They're getting something?
-No, they're getting nothing.

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00:24:52,917 --> 00:24:55,792
They're getting nothing
right there?

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00:24:55,958 --> 00:24:59,667
Sam! They're not getting
anything right over us,

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and we're broadcasting
from right here to there.

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They've got 300-foot
line of sight.

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So, there's something right
there that's scattering it.

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We couldn't see anything
in the air,

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but there had to be
something that was

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blocking our signals,
and that seemed to be

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moving higher and higher
with us above the triangle.

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Copy that. He'll stand here
and transmit till you're done.

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TRAVIS: I didn't know
what to think, so,

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I wanted to try one more thing

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to make sure we weren't
all just going out of our minds.

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Tell him to wait.
Tell him wait. Wait, wait, wait.

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BRYANT: Wait.
Hold on, Cameron.

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TRAVIS: Tell him to stay
where he is now...
-Okay.

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...and I'm going to walk out
in the middle of the field,

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away from the triangle
with the transmitter,

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see if they can get it.

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So, Travis is going to walk out
to the south of the triangle

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and have you pass over him

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and see if you pick it up

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away from the triangle.

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Are they getting anything?

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00:26:01,583 --> 00:26:04,292
Are you guys picking
anything up from here?

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00:26:11,042 --> 00:26:13,750
-Yeah, he can see it now.
-He can see it here...

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00:26:14,500 --> 00:26:15,458
That's crazy.

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So you were only about 300 feet

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above the triangle and
couldn't pick it up, but now,

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at 1,000 feet away,
you're picking it up.

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That's interesting.

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-BRANDON: So you've got
your control.
-Yup.

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This is a
successful experiment.

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TRAVIS:
So, once I got out

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far away from the triangle,

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the signal connection
worked perfectly.

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As scientists,
this is the kind of data

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that really excites Erik and me
because it showed repeatedly

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that something we couldn't see
was blocking the signal.

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But now, we have
a lot of data to crunch

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00:26:51,958 --> 00:26:54,333
and video files to scrub
through to see if something

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even more impressive

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was captured today
above the triangle.

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-What is going on above us?
-It was right here.

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TRAVIS: It means
there's something right here,

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about this spot,
between us and them

489
00:27:06,750 --> 00:27:08,333
that's attenuating the signal,

490
00:27:08,542 --> 00:27:10,458
or scattering it,
or something.

491
00:27:10,583 --> 00:27:11,708
That's fascinating.

492
00:27:11,875 --> 00:27:13,375
-Good work.
-Perfect.

493
00:27:13,542 --> 00:27:15,708
BRANDON:
Amazing. Amazing results.

494
00:27:25,292 --> 00:27:26,458
Thanks, Cameron.

495
00:27:26,625 --> 00:27:27,958
Thank you guys.
Thanks, everybody.

496
00:27:36,083 --> 00:27:37,625
ERIK: So,
I've got Jim Royston.

497
00:27:37,750 --> 00:27:39,875
I got Brandon
and Cameron on video call.

498
00:27:40,917 --> 00:27:42,333
Hey, Jim, Cameron, Brandon.

499
00:27:42,500 --> 00:27:44,583
-Hello!
-How we doing, guys?

500
00:27:44,750 --> 00:27:46,625
After our experiment
flying two helicopters

501
00:27:46,792 --> 00:27:48,000
above the triangle,

502
00:27:48,208 --> 00:27:49,750
Erik went back through
all the data

503
00:27:49,917 --> 00:27:52,250
and video that we obtained.

504
00:27:52,417 --> 00:27:53,667
So we couldn't wait to see else

505
00:27:53,875 --> 00:27:55,208
he may have found
that we missed.

506
00:27:55,375 --> 00:28:00,292
What I'm going to show you is
the live GPS data

507
00:28:00,458 --> 00:28:04,333
that was wirelessly
streamed down during the flight.

508
00:28:04,500 --> 00:28:05,958
This is from Brock's helicopter.

509
00:28:06,125 --> 00:28:09,167
I've located the command center,
or the helipad here,

510
00:28:09,333 --> 00:28:10,792
with a white feature

511
00:28:10,958 --> 00:28:12,875
on this side of the screen.

512
00:28:13,042 --> 00:28:14,917
KALEB: This was the first time
we've had something like this

513
00:28:15,083 --> 00:28:17,917
during a major experiment
where we were

514
00:28:18,083 --> 00:28:22,417
actively tracking the GPS
on a large object like this.

515
00:28:23,500 --> 00:28:26,875
So, you know, the elephant in
the room here, of course, um...

516
00:28:27,042 --> 00:28:28,375
-Where'd all the data go?
-ERIK: ...is... is...

517
00:28:28,542 --> 00:28:30,333
Well, the gaps, exactly.

518
00:28:31,542 --> 00:28:36,167
Clearly, we don't have
a fully continuous path here.

519
00:28:38,417 --> 00:28:41,625
TRAVIS: We knew that Cameron's
GPS was malfunctioning,

520
00:28:41,792 --> 00:28:44,167
or being blocked by something
during the experiment,

521
00:28:44,250 --> 00:28:47,833
but seeing the gaps in Brock's
GPS data was really baffling.

522
00:28:47,958 --> 00:28:50,208
According to
our tracking system,

523
00:28:50,375 --> 00:28:52,750
Brock's helicopter
literally disappeared

524
00:28:52,917 --> 00:28:54,500
and then reappeared.

525
00:28:54,708 --> 00:28:56,667
So, what in the world
did that mean?

526
00:28:57,667 --> 00:28:59,667
And, guys, I have to ask you,
are you seeing anything here

527
00:28:59,833 --> 00:29:01,292
that I may have missed?

528
00:29:01,458 --> 00:29:05,167
The only thing that really
caught my attention was,

529
00:29:05,333 --> 00:29:07,625
you see this break
on one of their turns,

530
00:29:07,708 --> 00:29:10,875
when they were heading up

531
00:29:11,083 --> 00:29:12,958
into the anomaly further.

532
00:29:13,167 --> 00:29:15,292
ERIK: You know, I noticed
this feature here.

533
00:29:15,458 --> 00:29:17,750
TRAVIS: Oh, yeah. It drops
down a significant amount.

534
00:29:17,875 --> 00:29:20,292
KALEB: You can actually see it
on this side right here.

535
00:29:20,458 --> 00:29:21,833
TRAVIS: Yeah, big break
right there, isn't it?

536
00:29:22,042 --> 00:29:23,250
Wow.

537
00:29:23,375 --> 00:29:26,250
I don't think they did
that kind of maneuver.

538
00:29:26,375 --> 00:29:27,625
Bizarre.

539
00:29:27,833 --> 00:29:29,458
ERIK:
This is a very non-physical,

540
00:29:29,625 --> 00:29:31,042
unrealistic type of a maneuver.

541
00:29:31,208 --> 00:29:33,167
-It's a discontinuity.
-A discontinuity.

542
00:29:33,333 --> 00:29:35,417
And aerospace vehicles
do not like discontinuities

543
00:29:35,625 --> 00:29:37,042
in the trajectory.

544
00:29:37,208 --> 00:29:38,750
It will rip the wings
and things off of them.

545
00:29:38,875 --> 00:29:40,875
That's true.

546
00:29:41,875 --> 00:29:44,417
The dramatic dip
between the GPS points

547
00:29:44,583 --> 00:29:46,375
above the triangle was baffling.

548
00:29:46,542 --> 00:29:51,000
Since we definitely didn't fly
straight down, it looked as if

549
00:29:51,167 --> 00:29:54,333
we instantaneously jumped
from one location to another.

550
00:29:54,458 --> 00:29:57,708
-I will say that this is
what I recall happening.
-Mm-hmm.

551
00:29:57,875 --> 00:30:01,333
Every time you guys were
on the south side of us,

552
00:30:01,542 --> 00:30:04,167
you told me that you were
receiving a strong signal.

553
00:30:04,333 --> 00:30:07,583
But when you would move
to the north side of us,

554
00:30:07,750 --> 00:30:10,542
you could no longer receive

555
00:30:10,750 --> 00:30:12,833
the transmitter signal.

556
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,542
-ERIK: Yes.
-And there's no reason

557
00:30:14,750 --> 00:30:15,750
you shouldn't have been
picking up that signal.

558
00:30:15,917 --> 00:30:19,042
-Yeah.
-Wow.

559
00:30:19,208 --> 00:30:21,875
Do we have video footage
or anything

560
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,167
of what was happening that day?

561
00:30:23,375 --> 00:30:25,125
Like from the cameras
on the helicopter?

562
00:30:25,333 --> 00:30:27,042
ERIK: Yeah,
we have tons of clips.

563
00:30:27,250 --> 00:30:29,000
So if we can get
all of our eyes

564
00:30:29,167 --> 00:30:31,000
on those clips, you know,
we might be able to come to

565
00:30:31,167 --> 00:30:34,250
-a consensus about
what we're looking at.
-Yeah.

566
00:30:37,625 --> 00:30:39,125
TRAVIS:
Where is this camera?

567
00:30:39,250 --> 00:30:41,083
Is the helicopter
sitting still on the ground?

568
00:30:41,250 --> 00:30:42,333
-CAMERON: Yeah.
-ERIK: Yes.

569
00:30:42,500 --> 00:30:44,167
Looks like it's on the helipad.

570
00:30:44,333 --> 00:30:46,833
ERIK: Okay. I'm going
to play this through at

571
00:30:47,042 --> 00:30:49,083
the normal frame rate.

572
00:30:51,333 --> 00:30:52,417
Stop me when you see it.

573
00:30:54,708 --> 00:30:56,208
TRAVIS:
What was that?

574
00:30:57,875 --> 00:30:59,958
-There we go.
-Pause that thing.

575
00:31:01,917 --> 00:31:03,542
TRAVIS:
What is that?

576
00:31:04,917 --> 00:31:07,958
That looks high up there,
whatever it is.

577
00:31:08,125 --> 00:31:09,375
Are you guys seeing this?

578
00:31:09,542 --> 00:31:12,083
-I see it clearly.
-Oh, yeah.

579
00:31:13,833 --> 00:31:15,292
CAMERON:
Crazy.

580
00:31:15,458 --> 00:31:18,917
-Can you go frame at a time?
-Yeah, we sure can.

581
00:31:19,875 --> 00:31:22,625
ERIK:
Two, three, four, five.

582
00:31:25,375 --> 00:31:27,292
-I can try going in
a little tighter.
-Yeah.

583
00:31:30,958 --> 00:31:32,708
I can't tell, but I think
it's changing shape.

584
00:31:32,917 --> 00:31:34,833
-Can y'all...
-ERIK: That's the key question.

585
00:31:34,958 --> 00:31:37,375
Is this thing
changing size or shape?

586
00:31:40,125 --> 00:31:44,500
Do we see anything that would
say: a bird, insect, a drone?

587
00:31:44,708 --> 00:31:46,250
It's really hard to say.

588
00:31:46,458 --> 00:31:49,375
I don't think we have enough
data to ever say what it is.

589
00:31:49,542 --> 00:31:50,708
Yeah.

590
00:31:50,875 --> 00:31:52,792
Okay, uh, Brandon, guys.

591
00:31:52,875 --> 00:31:54,500
I've got another clip
that I want to show you

592
00:31:54,625 --> 00:31:56,542
from the skid of the helicopter
looking downward.

593
00:31:57,583 --> 00:31:59,625
I'll just play it through,
tell me if you see--

594
00:31:59,750 --> 00:32:02,125
-TRAVIS: This is
Cameron's helicopter?
-ERIK: Yeah.

595
00:32:03,125 --> 00:32:04,375
CAMERON:
Oh. Right there.

596
00:32:04,542 --> 00:32:06,208
Brandon was in the car
across the bottom, right?

597
00:32:06,375 --> 00:32:07,333
-Yeah.
-Yeah.

598
00:32:07,500 --> 00:32:09,167
-Back, back up, Erik.
-ERIK: Okay.

599
00:32:10,375 --> 00:32:13,250
Okay, I'm just taking it back
one frame at a time.

600
00:32:14,375 --> 00:32:15,667
BRYANT:
There's a little white--

601
00:32:15,875 --> 00:32:17,083
TRAVIS: Oh, whoa, whoa!
There it is.

602
00:32:17,208 --> 00:32:18,083
BRYANT:
...white stick right there.

603
00:32:18,250 --> 00:32:19,667
ERIK:
Right there, yeah.

604
00:32:19,875 --> 00:32:21,083
TRAVIS: Leave,
leave it there, man, Erik.

605
00:32:21,208 --> 00:32:21,708
I got to look at it
with my eyeballs.

606
00:32:25,583 --> 00:32:27,458
ERIK: Do you see any
internal structure there?

607
00:32:28,917 --> 00:32:32,167
TRAVIS:
Well, so what you do see

608
00:32:32,375 --> 00:32:34,292
are two lines in the middle
that are saturated,

609
00:32:34,458 --> 00:32:35,833
meaning they're
as hot as they can be,

610
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,667
or as bright as they can be.

611
00:32:37,792 --> 00:32:39,500
ERIK:
So, what does that tell you?

612
00:32:39,708 --> 00:32:40,917
TRAVIS:
Well, so it tells me

613
00:32:41,125 --> 00:32:42,667
one of two things:

614
00:32:42,875 --> 00:32:44,000
There are either
two structures to it

615
00:32:44,208 --> 00:32:45,375
or it's two objects.

616
00:32:45,500 --> 00:32:46,542
Wow.

617
00:32:56,042 --> 00:32:57,750
TRAVIS: There are either
two structures to it,

618
00:32:57,958 --> 00:32:59,458
or it's two objects.

619
00:33:00,500 --> 00:33:01,667
Wow.

620
00:33:02,708 --> 00:33:05,083
TRAVIS:
We've seen all kinds of UAPs
in the last few years

621
00:33:05,250 --> 00:33:06,750
above Skinwalker Ranch.

622
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,000
Some have looked
like orbs of light...

623
00:33:12,417 --> 00:33:14,667
...and some have actually
looked like they could be

624
00:33:14,792 --> 00:33:16,625
nuts and bolts crafts.

625
00:33:16,792 --> 00:33:20,583
But this one-- or these two,
if they were separate objects--

626
00:33:20,750 --> 00:33:22,292
appeared to be physical crafts.

627
00:33:22,417 --> 00:33:23,333
So...

628
00:33:23,500 --> 00:33:24,875
what was this

629
00:33:25,042 --> 00:33:27,208
and was it related
to all the signal disruptions

630
00:33:27,375 --> 00:33:29,875
that we experienced
during the experiment?

631
00:33:30,042 --> 00:33:31,875
They're offset like this,

632
00:33:32,083 --> 00:33:33,167
-right?
-So we should see

633
00:33:33,375 --> 00:33:34,792
if that persists
in the next frame.

634
00:33:34,958 --> 00:33:35,542
TRAVIS: Yeah, that's
what I was gonna see.

635
00:33:35,708 --> 00:33:37,000
Okay.

636
00:33:37,167 --> 00:33:38,208
TRAVIS:
Go a frame back or forward.

637
00:33:38,375 --> 00:33:39,542
ERIK: Forward.
Okay. There it is.

638
00:33:39,708 --> 00:33:41,333
TRAVIS:
Same thing, same thing.

639
00:33:41,500 --> 00:33:42,917
-You ready to go one more?
-TRAVIS: Yeah.

640
00:33:43,083 --> 00:33:44,000
ERIK: Okay,
so you've got it right there.

641
00:33:44,208 --> 00:33:45,167
-Yeah.
-ERIK: Now forward,

642
00:33:45,333 --> 00:33:46,042
-and here we are--
-Same--

643
00:33:46,208 --> 00:33:49,000
same thing. Same thing.

644
00:33:51,333 --> 00:33:53,000
Do we have an estimation

645
00:33:53,208 --> 00:33:54,875
on the size of the object?

646
00:33:55,875 --> 00:33:57,708
Yeah, you can see that that's
about the same length

647
00:33:57,875 --> 00:33:59,000
as the bed of the pickup truck.

648
00:33:59,208 --> 00:34:01,125
ERIK: That's a great
scale comparison.

649
00:34:01,292 --> 00:34:03,708
TRAVIS: So this is a short bed,
so that's about...

650
00:34:03,833 --> 00:34:05,625
-Five and a half foot.
-TRAVIS: There you go,
five and a half foot.

651
00:34:05,708 --> 00:34:08,333
So what you got there
is a five-foot object

652
00:34:08,542 --> 00:34:10,333
in the field of view
of this camera.

653
00:34:10,542 --> 00:34:11,458
KALEB:
Yeah.

654
00:34:12,875 --> 00:34:14,667
ERIK:
Have we seen anything

655
00:34:14,792 --> 00:34:16,333
exactly like this before?

656
00:34:16,500 --> 00:34:18,458
I don't have a memory
of seeing something like,

657
00:34:18,625 --> 00:34:19,667
exactly like this one.

658
00:34:19,792 --> 00:34:21,542
I don't think exactly, no.

659
00:34:21,708 --> 00:34:23,875
ERIK:
You know, a lot of what
we see is either spherical

660
00:34:24,042 --> 00:34:25,917
or approximately spherical
or kind of fuzzy.

661
00:34:26,083 --> 00:34:29,125
Uh, in this case, I just,

662
00:34:29,292 --> 00:34:31,250
I don't think
it has a precedent.

663
00:34:32,292 --> 00:34:34,042
I don't think we know
what these things are.

664
00:34:34,208 --> 00:34:35,542
I'm not sure
that we can classify them.

665
00:34:35,708 --> 00:34:38,083
But we're going
to just continue collecting

666
00:34:38,250 --> 00:34:40,208
data of this kind
every time we go to altitude

667
00:34:40,417 --> 00:34:42,833
and see if they form
some kind of pattern.

668
00:34:42,958 --> 00:34:44,833
BRYANT:
I mean, it's interesting, given

669
00:34:45,042 --> 00:34:49,667
the perspective of the camera
and how short the clip is.

670
00:34:49,833 --> 00:34:51,833
I'm surprised to see it show up.

671
00:34:52,042 --> 00:34:53,083
KALEB:
Definitely interesting.

672
00:34:53,250 --> 00:34:54,333
CAMERON:
Yeah.

673
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,292
Brandon, Cameron, any questions,

674
00:34:57,375 --> 00:34:59,000
or you ready to move on?

675
00:34:59,167 --> 00:35:02,000
Yeah, let's see if we have any
other video footage of interest.

676
00:35:02,208 --> 00:35:04,000
Okay, so let's take a look
at the next one.

677
00:35:04,208 --> 00:35:06,208
So I have another clip
that I want to get your eyes on.

678
00:35:06,333 --> 00:35:08,750
I'm gonna bring this up, guys.

679
00:35:11,125 --> 00:35:13,500
-Are you seeing this?
-Yeah, absolutely.

680
00:35:13,708 --> 00:35:15,500
Okay, good.

681
00:35:18,042 --> 00:35:19,250
KALEB:
Oh, right there, I see it.

682
00:35:20,625 --> 00:35:21,792
BRYANT:
Oh, yeah.

683
00:35:23,833 --> 00:35:26,667
TRAVIS:
Is that something
walking on the ground?

684
00:35:30,167 --> 00:35:32,792
That is really slow-moving,
by contrast

685
00:35:32,958 --> 00:35:34,333
to the last thing that we saw.

686
00:35:34,500 --> 00:35:36,667
Okay, I'm gonna
take it backwards.

687
00:35:37,833 --> 00:35:39,375
And again, you know,

688
00:35:39,542 --> 00:35:41,125
I'm looking for any kind
of structure on this thing.

689
00:35:46,375 --> 00:35:48,542
Let's take a closer look.

690
00:35:51,292 --> 00:35:53,958
TRAVIS:
It's saturated.
Look how solid white it is.

691
00:35:54,125 --> 00:35:55,542
ERIK:
Fully white.

692
00:35:55,708 --> 00:35:57,542
TRAVIS:
So it's very bright
to this camera.

693
00:36:04,125 --> 00:36:05,417
ERIK:
There are some

694
00:36:05,583 --> 00:36:07,917
apparent bright objects
that go flying

695
00:36:08,083 --> 00:36:10,458
through the field of view
of the camera

696
00:36:10,625 --> 00:36:13,208
right down there
at ground level,

697
00:36:13,375 --> 00:36:16,292
and I find that fascinating,
but at this point,

698
00:36:16,458 --> 00:36:19,458
it's really hard to classify
what we're seeing.

699
00:36:19,625 --> 00:36:21,417
What interested me about this,

700
00:36:21,542 --> 00:36:23,500
is that,
unlike so much of what we see,

701
00:36:23,667 --> 00:36:26,333
this thing is not just zooming
through the field of view.

702
00:36:26,417 --> 00:36:29,167
It seems like it's deliberately
moving through the field

703
00:36:29,333 --> 00:36:30,667
-or just above it.
-Almost floating.

704
00:36:30,875 --> 00:36:32,000
ERIK:
Yeah, floating.

705
00:36:32,208 --> 00:36:33,167
-That's a good way to put it.
-Yeah.

706
00:36:35,542 --> 00:36:37,958
ERIK: Yeah, so it's definitely
approaching from the south.

707
00:36:39,625 --> 00:36:41,583
-Now, did you see
what happened there?
-(murmured agreements)

708
00:36:41,750 --> 00:36:43,583
It got, it-it got
to a certain point where it,

709
00:36:43,708 --> 00:36:44,875
it seemed to stop

710
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,625
and turns,
and turns for the west.

711
00:36:46,792 --> 00:36:48,208
Now I'll back up.

712
00:36:48,417 --> 00:36:49,792
TRAVIS:
Play it slowly, you know,

713
00:36:49,958 --> 00:36:51,375
-so we can track it.
-ERIK: I'm go-I'm going back

714
00:36:51,542 --> 00:36:52,708
so we can play into this.

715
00:36:52,875 --> 00:36:54,833
♪ ♪

716
00:36:55,958 --> 00:36:58,208
It stops and kind of swerves.

717
00:36:58,375 --> 00:36:59,833
TRAVIS:
Oh, Lord, have mercy,

718
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,500
that's on the ground.

719
00:37:01,625 --> 00:37:03,333
BRYANT:
It sure looks like it,
doesn't it?

720
00:37:04,375 --> 00:37:06,458
TRAVIS:
What in the world is that?

721
00:37:07,500 --> 00:37:10,667
It looks like the other UAP
that came out of the mesa.

722
00:37:10,875 --> 00:37:11,708
Bingo.

723
00:37:11,917 --> 00:37:12,958
Yeah.

724
00:37:13,125 --> 00:37:14,500
ERIK:
The luminous one.

725
00:37:14,667 --> 00:37:15,958
-Yeah.
-TRAVIS: It looks
real similar, doesn't it?

726
00:37:16,125 --> 00:37:17,375
-ERIK: Yes.
-KALEB: Yeah.

727
00:37:17,542 --> 00:37:18,750
TRAVIS:
Last year...

728
00:37:19,792 --> 00:37:22,000
...we saw a very
similar-looking UAP

729
00:37:22,167 --> 00:37:24,292
enter the mesa in the east field

730
00:37:24,417 --> 00:37:28,792
and then emerge from the mesa
right near the triangle.

731
00:37:30,708 --> 00:37:34,083
KALEB:
This could potentially be
that same object

732
00:37:34,292 --> 00:37:35,917
or one of those same objects

733
00:37:36,083 --> 00:37:38,000
caught on the camera last year.

734
00:37:38,208 --> 00:37:39,125
Wow.

735
00:37:39,250 --> 00:37:40,792
That's amazing.

736
00:37:48,875 --> 00:37:51,542
KALEB: This could
potentially be one

737
00:37:51,708 --> 00:37:54,000
of the same objects caught
on the camera last year.

738
00:37:54,208 --> 00:37:55,042
Wow.

739
00:37:55,208 --> 00:37:56,417
Yeah.

740
00:37:58,958 --> 00:38:00,708
TRAVIS:
That's amazing.

741
00:38:00,875 --> 00:38:02,083
And-and we've got three

742
00:38:02,208 --> 00:38:04,042
separate videos here,

743
00:38:04,208 --> 00:38:06,083
with very similar objects

744
00:38:06,208 --> 00:38:09,083
and these all seem
saturated white,

745
00:38:09,250 --> 00:38:10,417
right?

746
00:38:11,500 --> 00:38:13,542
I find that really intriguing.

747
00:38:13,708 --> 00:38:14,875
Yeah.

748
00:38:15,042 --> 00:38:16,792
I think--
to your point, Travis--

749
00:38:16,875 --> 00:38:17,833
that one looked to me

750
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,625
like it was putting off light

751
00:38:19,708 --> 00:38:22,042
as opposed to just being a color
that is picking up in the lens.

752
00:38:22,250 --> 00:38:23,333
I-- And I agree.

753
00:38:23,500 --> 00:38:25,000
And here's the thing--

754
00:38:25,167 --> 00:38:27,042
while the first one is
a little bit more elongated,

755
00:38:27,208 --> 00:38:29,875
there's still the same kind
of color, saturated white.

756
00:38:30,083 --> 00:38:30,833
So we need to get

757
00:38:31,042 --> 00:38:32,333
to the bottom of that.

758
00:38:32,500 --> 00:38:34,333
We got to figure out

759
00:38:34,417 --> 00:38:36,292
where are they going to
and where are they coming from?

760
00:38:37,708 --> 00:38:39,375
Well, it sounds like, as usual,

761
00:38:39,542 --> 00:38:42,417
we have more
unanswered questions.

762
00:38:42,583 --> 00:38:45,000
We have a lot of data
to continue to sift through

763
00:38:45,167 --> 00:38:49,000
and I think we have some
potentially compelling events

764
00:38:49,167 --> 00:38:50,708
that we've captured on camera.

765
00:38:50,875 --> 00:38:52,500
We just need to,

766
00:38:52,708 --> 00:38:56,250
to simply draw some
hopefully correlating footage,

767
00:38:56,458 --> 00:38:59,250
uh, or better insight
into identifying

768
00:38:59,375 --> 00:39:00,667
what we are dealing with.

769
00:39:00,875 --> 00:39:02,000
Yeah, I know this was
a lot to go through.

770
00:39:02,167 --> 00:39:03,292
I appreciate so much attention

771
00:39:03,458 --> 00:39:04,667
given to this data set.

772
00:39:04,833 --> 00:39:07,250
So, how do you gentlemen
think we would, uh,

773
00:39:07,417 --> 00:39:08,708
we would follow up on this?

774
00:39:08,875 --> 00:39:10,542
We do everything
we can think of in these...

775
00:39:10,708 --> 00:39:13,250
If we know there's some
sort of anomaly that repeated

776
00:39:13,375 --> 00:39:15,083
in different locations,

777
00:39:15,250 --> 00:39:17,875
then we need
to flood those locations

778
00:39:18,042 --> 00:39:19,083
with instruments.

779
00:39:19,208 --> 00:39:20,792
ERIK:
Agreed.

780
00:39:20,917 --> 00:39:23,500
I want to cover this entire area
spanning this fence line,

781
00:39:23,667 --> 00:39:25,583
you know, going from just
to the west of the triangle

782
00:39:25,750 --> 00:39:26,792
to the east of the triangle

783
00:39:26,958 --> 00:39:29,417
and out
at the east field canyon.

784
00:39:29,625 --> 00:39:31,833
-BRYANT: That's a great idea.
-Yeah.
-ERIK: Yes.

785
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,375
And in the east field
by the canyon

786
00:39:34,542 --> 00:39:35,958
is a good place to start.

787
00:39:36,125 --> 00:39:37,667
I like the sounds of that.

788
00:39:37,833 --> 00:39:39,500
BRANDON:
And by deploying the equipment,

789
00:39:39,625 --> 00:39:42,958
the sensors, and the platforms

790
00:39:43,167 --> 00:39:47,417
that Erik and OmniTeq
and Travis are, are leading

791
00:39:47,583 --> 00:39:50,167
on the ranch, hopefully,
we'll get some answers.

792
00:39:50,333 --> 00:39:51,500
-ERIK: We're on it.
-Yeah, let's do it.

793
00:39:51,667 --> 00:39:53,375
-BRYANT: Okay.
-BRANDON: Very good.

794
00:39:53,542 --> 00:39:55,292
Well, thank you so much.

795
00:39:55,417 --> 00:39:56,625
-ERIK: Thanks, guys.
-Thank you, Brandon.

796
00:39:56,833 --> 00:39:58,583
-Thank you.
-See you later.

797
00:39:58,750 --> 00:40:01,167
TRAVIS: Well, uh, we still
got a lot of work to do.

798
00:40:01,250 --> 00:40:03,000
ERIK:
Yeah.

799
00:40:04,042 --> 00:40:06,083
So one of the questions that's
coming to the surface for me

800
00:40:06,208 --> 00:40:08,000
is whether we're dealing
with something that is

801
00:40:08,208 --> 00:40:11,042
spoofing or somehow
distorting GPS readings.

802
00:40:11,208 --> 00:40:13,000
When you think about
all the things in our world

803
00:40:13,125 --> 00:40:14,292
that depend upon GPS,

804
00:40:14,500 --> 00:40:16,625
this is actually
pretty dangerous.

805
00:40:16,792 --> 00:40:19,542
We definitely need
to study this phenomenon

806
00:40:19,708 --> 00:40:22,250
in greater depth
as the summer goes forward.

807
00:40:22,417 --> 00:40:24,542
It is no longer a question

808
00:40:24,708 --> 00:40:26,792
of whether
the phenomena is real.

809
00:40:26,917 --> 00:40:29,292
It is now a question
of identifying

810
00:40:29,458 --> 00:40:31,333
the origin, the agenda,

811
00:40:31,542 --> 00:40:34,458
the nature of what
we are interacting with

812
00:40:34,542 --> 00:40:37,417
and documenting
at Skinwalker Ranch.

813
00:40:37,542 --> 00:40:40,042
In our very first
experiment of the year,

814
00:40:40,208 --> 00:40:41,792
we've found more evidence

815
00:40:41,958 --> 00:40:43,833
that there is something
above the triangle

816
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,500
that just may hold the key
to solving this mystery.

817
00:40:49,542 --> 00:40:52,333
And we are determined
to do whatever it takes

818
00:40:52,500 --> 00:40:55,083
to figure out exactly

819
00:40:55,250 --> 00:40:56,833
what it is.

820
00:40:59,917 --> 00:41:01,583
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