1 00:00:00,708 --> 00:00:01,083 2,000 feet high 2 00:00:02,583 --> 00:00:04,000 but this is showing it only at about 3 00:00:04,167 --> 00:00:05,875 150 feet or something. 4 00:00:06,042 --> 00:00:07,417 So, I've taken the Lunasonde data 5 00:00:07,542 --> 00:00:09,875 that we got last year, and there's the rocket launches. 6 00:00:10,042 --> 00:00:11,333 -BRYANT: They do line up. -TRAVIS: Yeah. 7 00:00:11,542 --> 00:00:12,833 Look at that scapula. 8 00:00:13,042 --> 00:00:15,333 That is a tooth that bit all the way through. 9 00:00:15,542 --> 00:00:16,750 It would have to be larger than a wolf. 10 00:00:16,917 --> 00:00:18,583 That is a dire wolf, 11 00:00:18,750 --> 00:00:20,125 which is an extinct species. 12 00:00:20,292 --> 00:00:21,792 THOMAS: Look at this tree right here. 13 00:00:21,875 --> 00:00:24,458 It looks charred. 14 00:00:24,625 --> 00:00:26,125 TRAVIS: We got a dead animal right here! 15 00:00:26,333 --> 00:00:27,583 -THOMAS: Oh, What is that? -BRYANT: What is that? 16 00:00:28,667 --> 00:00:32,167 NARRATOR: There is a ranch in Northern Utah. 17 00:00:32,333 --> 00:00:34,708 It is considered the epicenter 18 00:00:34,875 --> 00:00:39,500 of the strangest and most disturbing phenomena on Earth: 19 00:00:39,708 --> 00:00:41,917 animal mutilations, 20 00:00:42,042 --> 00:00:44,333 bizarre UFO sightings 21 00:00:44,458 --> 00:00:49,375 and unusual energies that have proven harmful to humans. 22 00:00:49,542 --> 00:00:52,000 For 20 years, the federal government 23 00:00:52,167 --> 00:00:55,333 tried to find answers and failed. 24 00:00:55,542 --> 00:00:59,458 Now a new team of dedicated scientists, 25 00:00:59,625 --> 00:01:03,333 researchers and experts has taken over. 26 00:01:03,542 --> 00:01:07,500 They are determined to solve the mystery and reveal... 27 00:01:09,958 --> 00:01:13,375 ...The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch. 28 00:01:21,208 --> 00:01:22,750 KANDUS: Thanks for meeting with us today. 29 00:01:22,958 --> 00:01:24,167 BEN: Absolutely. 30 00:01:24,375 --> 00:01:26,167 We'd love to hear what you found out about 31 00:01:26,333 --> 00:01:27,542 those samples of the dead things we found 32 00:01:27,708 --> 00:01:29,625 in the river. 33 00:01:29,833 --> 00:01:31,833 BEN: Okay, all of it was very interesting 34 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:33,792 and kind of some unexpected things. 35 00:01:35,042 --> 00:01:37,333 TRAVIS: Last week, we made a bunch of 36 00:01:37,458 --> 00:01:39,333 strange discoveries in Dry Gulch Creek, 37 00:01:39,500 --> 00:01:42,917 which borders the south field of Skinwalker Ranch. 38 00:01:43,042 --> 00:01:45,083 These included a scorched tree 39 00:01:45,250 --> 00:01:47,417 where nothing else around it was burned, 40 00:01:47,542 --> 00:01:50,833 and the decayed carcass of some kind of animal 41 00:01:50,917 --> 00:01:53,958 with huge fangs, so we couldn't wait 42 00:01:54,167 --> 00:01:56,125 to hear the scientific report 43 00:01:56,333 --> 00:01:59,042 on the samples that we sent to biologist Ben Woodruff 44 00:01:59,250 --> 00:02:02,375 at the Hutchings Museum Institute in Lehi, Utah. 45 00:02:02,500 --> 00:02:04,792 So, I want to show you some pictures 46 00:02:04,958 --> 00:02:07,500 from the olive wood tree that was burned, 47 00:02:07,708 --> 00:02:09,333 and the burn looked a little strange. 48 00:02:12,708 --> 00:02:14,417 I can't 100% confirm this, 49 00:02:14,583 --> 00:02:17,542 but the way the burn happened looked like pyrolysis, 50 00:02:17,708 --> 00:02:22,083 which is where a burn happens without combustion, 51 00:02:22,208 --> 00:02:24,500 and without burning through any oxygen. 52 00:02:25,500 --> 00:02:27,167 So, if you were to witness it, 53 00:02:27,375 --> 00:02:29,333 it would just be turning black in front of your eyes 54 00:02:29,542 --> 00:02:30,458 without a flame. 55 00:02:31,875 --> 00:02:34,500 Then the question is, what is making heat hot enough 56 00:02:34,667 --> 00:02:38,875 to create a non-combustion fire and have no oxygen? 57 00:02:40,208 --> 00:02:41,292 Well, you'd have to have an extreme 58 00:02:41,417 --> 00:02:43,042 -heat source. -Yes. 59 00:02:43,208 --> 00:02:44,208 I'm thinking about that post we found. 60 00:02:44,375 --> 00:02:45,417 I was just exactly 61 00:02:45,583 --> 00:02:46,667 -thinking about that post. -Yeah. 62 00:02:46,792 --> 00:02:48,083 Which is right where 63 00:02:48,250 --> 00:02:50,500 we saw that silver orb coming toward 64 00:02:50,708 --> 00:02:51,708 our game camera. 65 00:02:51,917 --> 00:02:53,542 -It is, isn't it? -BRYANT: It is. 66 00:02:55,917 --> 00:02:57,667 THOMAS: Huh, look at this. 67 00:02:57,875 --> 00:02:59,667 We got a burn mark. 68 00:03:01,042 --> 00:03:02,250 TRAVIS: In 2022, 69 00:03:02,375 --> 00:03:04,333 Kaleb Bench and Thomas Winterton 70 00:03:04,542 --> 00:03:06,292 noticed a fence post in the south field 71 00:03:06,500 --> 00:03:09,167 with a half-circle-shaped hole through it 72 00:03:09,375 --> 00:03:11,708 and burns that were just like the olive tree 73 00:03:11,833 --> 00:03:13,542 that we found nearby in the creek. 74 00:03:13,708 --> 00:03:16,875 And then, after setting up game cameras 75 00:03:17,042 --> 00:03:18,583 to keep a better watch over that area, 76 00:03:18,750 --> 00:03:21,667 we captured an image of a silver orb 77 00:03:21,875 --> 00:03:23,500 in the middle of the field. 78 00:03:23,583 --> 00:03:26,042 But was it connected to the scorched fence post 79 00:03:26,208 --> 00:03:28,375 or even the olive tree? 80 00:03:29,375 --> 00:03:32,958 Man, I find that really interesting. 81 00:03:33,125 --> 00:03:35,083 BEN: Let me show you next, 82 00:03:35,250 --> 00:03:38,000 the jaw sample, the canine that you found. 83 00:03:38,167 --> 00:03:39,917 ERIK: I want to see this. 84 00:03:42,042 --> 00:03:43,500 TRAVIS: About six months ago, 85 00:03:43,708 --> 00:03:45,542 a dead cow was discovered near the south field 86 00:03:45,708 --> 00:03:48,708 that had massive teeth marks in it. 87 00:03:49,708 --> 00:03:52,375 BEN: The size fits into that hole perfectly. 88 00:03:52,542 --> 00:03:54,000 TRAVIS: And last week, 89 00:03:54,167 --> 00:03:55,708 Ben suggested that one animal 90 00:03:55,875 --> 00:03:58,292 with teeth large enough to make those sized wounds 91 00:03:58,458 --> 00:04:00,583 could have been a dire wolf, 92 00:04:00,750 --> 00:04:04,417 which went extinct about 10,000 years ago. 93 00:04:05,500 --> 00:04:07,667 What's even crazier than that 94 00:04:07,875 --> 00:04:10,000 is a story told by the Sherman family, 95 00:04:10,167 --> 00:04:12,042 who lived here in the 1990s, 96 00:04:12,208 --> 00:04:13,792 that they actually saw 97 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,250 a dire wolf attack their cattle. 98 00:04:16,375 --> 00:04:19,667 So, we were all on the edge of our seats to hear 99 00:04:19,875 --> 00:04:22,792 what Ben had to say about the dead animal 100 00:04:22,917 --> 00:04:26,000 we just discovered in the creek bordering the south field. 101 00:04:27,125 --> 00:04:29,125 BEN: I want to give you a couple of examples here, 102 00:04:29,292 --> 00:04:30,333 some comparative anatomy. 103 00:04:30,542 --> 00:04:32,208 So, this is the side view 104 00:04:32,417 --> 00:04:33,917 of a typical coyote skull. 105 00:04:35,208 --> 00:04:37,667 And I want you to focus down here. 106 00:04:37,833 --> 00:04:39,333 At the bottom, 107 00:04:39,542 --> 00:04:43,458 you can see this bulge is not very big. 108 00:04:44,458 --> 00:04:46,250 This is the part of the jaw 109 00:04:46,417 --> 00:04:49,208 that undergoes the most stress 110 00:04:49,375 --> 00:04:52,375 when these teeth here are crunching down. 111 00:04:53,417 --> 00:04:55,458 So, keep that in mind. Keep the shape in mind. 112 00:04:56,542 --> 00:04:59,042 This is a regular, modern-day gray wolf. 113 00:05:00,458 --> 00:05:02,500 And they're tackling larger prey, 114 00:05:02,708 --> 00:05:05,292 up to the size of moose or even a buffalo. 115 00:05:05,458 --> 00:05:08,375 And you can see how much larger that is. 116 00:05:10,375 --> 00:05:13,625 And this is a dire wolf. 117 00:05:16,083 --> 00:05:17,333 You can see down below here 118 00:05:17,500 --> 00:05:20,417 how much larger that bulge is. 119 00:05:21,750 --> 00:05:23,667 -TRAVIS: That's huge. -THOMAS: Yeah. 120 00:05:25,708 --> 00:05:28,417 BEN: Here is the dentition on your jaw. 121 00:05:30,667 --> 00:05:33,000 That has the much thicker, larger bulge 122 00:05:33,208 --> 00:05:35,167 like a dire wolf. 123 00:05:35,333 --> 00:05:37,167 TRAVIS: Look at that. 124 00:05:37,250 --> 00:05:38,833 What? 125 00:05:39,042 --> 00:05:39,917 Are you kidding me? 126 00:05:40,042 --> 00:05:41,750 KAELEB: No way. 127 00:05:43,792 --> 00:05:45,583 BEN: I don't want to put out a hypothesis, 128 00:05:45,792 --> 00:05:48,792 but if you handed me this and said, "Hey, what is this?" 129 00:05:48,917 --> 00:05:51,083 Everything I'm measuring, everything I'm looking at says 130 00:05:51,250 --> 00:05:53,792 it looks like it has dire wolf in it 131 00:05:53,958 --> 00:05:55,000 or is a young dire wolf. 132 00:05:56,500 --> 00:05:58,958 But I'm hoping we can do a DNA test. 133 00:06:01,042 --> 00:06:04,250 THOMAS: If we can prove this is a legit dire wolf, 134 00:06:04,417 --> 00:06:06,417 that would be the first physical evidence 135 00:06:06,542 --> 00:06:08,208 that we've been given from anybody 136 00:06:08,375 --> 00:06:10,708 that suggests that the Shermans actually saw 137 00:06:10,875 --> 00:06:13,500 a dire wolf trying to pull their cows through the fence. 138 00:06:13,667 --> 00:06:15,542 We love everything about your approach, Ben, 139 00:06:15,708 --> 00:06:18,333 and I-I am... I am so grateful 140 00:06:18,458 --> 00:06:19,875 for everything you've shared with us. 141 00:06:20,042 --> 00:06:23,167 KANDUS: Yeah. Thanks so much for coming on 142 00:06:23,292 --> 00:06:24,500 and sharing your results with us. 143 00:06:24,708 --> 00:06:26,625 We'll collect more samples and hopefully 144 00:06:26,792 --> 00:06:28,333 -talk to you soon. -BEN: Great. 145 00:06:28,500 --> 00:06:29,792 Thank you. I look forward to coming out again. 146 00:06:29,958 --> 00:06:31,167 -BRYANT: Thanks, man. -THOMAS: Thank you, Ben. 147 00:06:31,333 --> 00:06:32,833 -See you later. -Talk to you soon. 148 00:06:33,833 --> 00:06:36,833 -BRYANT: Wow. -TRAVIS: A dire wolf. 149 00:06:48,542 --> 00:06:50,167 KAELEB: Well, we've got Jan back out, guys. 150 00:06:50,375 --> 00:06:52,583 -ERIK: Hey, Jan. -Hey. Hey, guys. 151 00:06:52,708 --> 00:06:54,625 -Welcome back. -JAN: Thanks for having me back. 152 00:06:54,792 --> 00:06:56,833 TRAVIS: After our meeting with Ben Woodruff, 153 00:06:57,042 --> 00:07:00,583 we welcomed ground-penetrating radar expert Jan Francke 154 00:07:00,750 --> 00:07:03,167 back to help us with another one of our current investigations, 155 00:07:03,333 --> 00:07:07,125 between the area known as the triangle and the mesa, 156 00:07:07,208 --> 00:07:10,375 where we've detected a possible underground structure. 157 00:07:11,750 --> 00:07:15,167 We had a team come out and do a balloon-based 158 00:07:15,375 --> 00:07:17,250 deep penetrating radar survey. 159 00:07:17,458 --> 00:07:19,083 -Okay. -We also have some 160 00:07:19,208 --> 00:07:21,792 -magnetometer data from a few years ago... -JAN: Yep. 161 00:07:21,917 --> 00:07:23,500 ...that shows magnetic anomalies. 162 00:07:23,708 --> 00:07:25,167 -Okay. -Which suggests 163 00:07:25,375 --> 00:07:28,292 that we're looking at something metallic, 164 00:07:28,417 --> 00:07:30,250 possibly even a tunnel of some kind. 165 00:07:30,375 --> 00:07:31,625 Okay. 166 00:07:32,583 --> 00:07:34,167 TRAVIS: Over the past three years, 167 00:07:34,375 --> 00:07:36,333 we've conducted a magnetometry scan 168 00:07:36,500 --> 00:07:39,667 as well as an aerial radar scan in this area, 169 00:07:39,875 --> 00:07:43,042 and both of them identified a possible metal tunnel 170 00:07:43,208 --> 00:07:46,292 running underground between the triangle and the mesa. 171 00:07:46,458 --> 00:07:48,917 So today, Jan is going to use 172 00:07:49,083 --> 00:07:51,667 a special ground-penetrating radar device 173 00:07:51,833 --> 00:07:54,167 to get us more data and help us figure out 174 00:07:54,250 --> 00:07:55,542 if that could really be true. 175 00:07:55,708 --> 00:07:58,292 Our ambition is to 176 00:07:58,417 --> 00:08:00,333 do a survey in this area under the triangle. 177 00:08:00,542 --> 00:08:02,292 Absolutely, we can do that. Yes. 178 00:08:02,500 --> 00:08:04,167 Well, guys, so, this time I brought 179 00:08:04,292 --> 00:08:05,542 a much deeper penetrating system-- 180 00:08:05,708 --> 00:08:06,917 I've improved it over the last year-- 181 00:08:07,083 --> 00:08:08,667 that will give us a much higher resolution. 182 00:08:08,833 --> 00:08:10,208 Perfect. 183 00:08:11,250 --> 00:08:12,833 TRAVIS: Jan is going to scan back and forth 184 00:08:13,042 --> 00:08:16,167 across the area in what's called a push broom pattern. 185 00:08:16,375 --> 00:08:18,458 As he does this, the GPR will send 186 00:08:18,625 --> 00:08:20,250 radio signals into the ground 187 00:08:20,417 --> 00:08:22,375 that bounce off of objects or structures. 188 00:08:22,542 --> 00:08:24,292 If any are detected, 189 00:08:24,375 --> 00:08:26,292 the device will produce an image on 190 00:08:26,458 --> 00:08:28,125 what is known as a radargram. 191 00:08:29,500 --> 00:08:32,500 Now, while Jan's GPR is mainly designed to 192 00:08:32,625 --> 00:08:34,667 send radio signals into the ground, 193 00:08:34,875 --> 00:08:36,958 some of them will actually go up, 194 00:08:37,042 --> 00:08:40,125 meaning that he could also detect things above him. 195 00:08:41,125 --> 00:08:43,958 That would be a good thing for us because we've documented 196 00:08:44,125 --> 00:08:46,500 a lot of anomalies above the triangle. 197 00:08:46,708 --> 00:08:48,500 So, if anything passes over him, 198 00:08:48,667 --> 00:08:50,708 we might able to image that, as well. 199 00:08:51,667 --> 00:08:53,083 We got another experiment 200 00:08:53,250 --> 00:08:54,667 on the other side of the ranch, so we're going to 201 00:08:54,875 --> 00:08:56,083 leave you and Kaleb here at it for a little bit, 202 00:08:56,250 --> 00:08:57,167 and we're gonna head over there. 203 00:08:57,292 --> 00:08:58,333 Sounds good. 204 00:08:58,542 --> 00:08:59,833 TRAVIS: Well, good luck, guys. 205 00:09:01,625 --> 00:09:03,167 -Okay. -JAN: Got it? 206 00:09:03,375 --> 00:09:04,583 All right, 207 00:09:04,792 --> 00:09:06,583 let's start assembling it. 208 00:09:08,042 --> 00:09:11,333 TRAVIS: While Jan and Kaleb were running the GPR scan 209 00:09:11,500 --> 00:09:13,292 -at the triangle... -And off we go. 210 00:09:14,333 --> 00:09:17,000 ...Me, Thomas and Dragon went about a half mile over to 211 00:09:17,208 --> 00:09:19,958 the east field to conduct a different experiment 212 00:09:20,125 --> 00:09:21,708 to follow up on something strange 213 00:09:21,875 --> 00:09:23,708 that happened two weeks ago. 214 00:09:24,833 --> 00:09:26,542 Let's put the launch pad right here. 215 00:09:29,042 --> 00:09:32,500 We were conducting a drone-based infrared lidar scan 216 00:09:32,708 --> 00:09:35,583 when Jim Royston suddenly began losing GPS data 217 00:09:35,708 --> 00:09:38,292 at very specific spots above the east field. 218 00:09:38,417 --> 00:09:40,167 -ERIK: Uh-oh. -What happened, Erik? 219 00:09:40,375 --> 00:09:42,333 TRAVIS: Something that we couldn't explain 220 00:09:42,500 --> 00:09:45,208 was blocking the GPS signal. 221 00:09:45,375 --> 00:09:47,333 -Let's go launch this thing. -Okay. 222 00:09:47,500 --> 00:09:49,333 TRAVIS: So, we've decided to launch 223 00:09:49,500 --> 00:09:51,292 rockets equipped with GPS devices 224 00:09:51,458 --> 00:09:53,750 up into those same dead spots 225 00:09:53,917 --> 00:09:55,958 to see if we could get repeated data, 226 00:09:56,042 --> 00:09:58,833 or even stimulate some kind of phenomenon, 227 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,792 that might help us figure out what's going on in that area. 228 00:10:01,958 --> 00:10:03,042 (beeps) 229 00:10:04,042 --> 00:10:05,542 THOMAS: Erik, the rocket's armed 230 00:10:05,708 --> 00:10:06,833 and we're ready to launch. 231 00:10:07,042 --> 00:10:09,292 Copy you. Standing by for launch. 232 00:10:09,500 --> 00:10:10,792 BRYANT: While we're out in the field, 233 00:10:10,917 --> 00:10:12,833 Erik's going to be in the command center, 234 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,500 watching all of his instrumentation and cameras, 235 00:10:15,667 --> 00:10:17,417 to keep an eye on both parties 236 00:10:17,542 --> 00:10:19,333 while we're out doing this experiment. 237 00:10:20,542 --> 00:10:22,833 We might be able to get to the next spot. 238 00:10:23,042 --> 00:10:24,458 -Okay, whereabouts is it? -It's up over in... 239 00:10:24,625 --> 00:10:26,250 -In that thicket there? -It's up over in here. 240 00:10:26,417 --> 00:10:28,000 JAN: All right. 241 00:10:29,375 --> 00:10:32,292 TRAVIS: In five, four, 242 00:10:32,458 --> 00:10:35,000 three, two, 243 00:10:35,167 --> 00:10:36,333 one. 244 00:10:43,042 --> 00:10:44,667 -KALEB: Yeah. -JAN: Something's going on 245 00:10:44,833 --> 00:10:46,750 with the signal there, very interesting. 246 00:10:46,875 --> 00:10:50,708 We've got this weird bump above the ground. 247 00:10:50,833 --> 00:10:53,333 -I can't explain that. -KALEB: Uh, yeah. 248 00:10:55,167 --> 00:10:57,167 What the hell? 249 00:10:58,167 --> 00:11:00,375 ERIK (over radio): Hey, Thomas, you copy? 250 00:11:00,542 --> 00:11:02,708 Yeah, Erik. Go ahead. 251 00:11:03,708 --> 00:11:05,625 ERIK: I don't even know how to say this. 252 00:11:06,875 --> 00:11:10,375 I saw the rocket launch straight up in the camera. 253 00:11:11,583 --> 00:11:15,000 But the GPS data went deep into the mesa. 254 00:11:16,875 --> 00:11:20,125 -(Travis laughing) -BRYANT: That's amazing. 255 00:11:24,583 --> 00:11:27,958 straight up in the camera. theh 256 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,167 But the GPS data went northwest. 257 00:11:32,625 --> 00:11:36,667 And raced off into the interior of the mesa. 258 00:11:38,792 --> 00:11:41,833 It never went up from the launch pad. 259 00:11:41,958 --> 00:11:43,500 -Wow. -It turned and went that direction. 260 00:11:43,667 --> 00:11:46,083 TRAVIS: Our latest experiment showed 261 00:11:46,250 --> 00:11:48,042 really weird results from the get-go. 262 00:11:48,208 --> 00:11:51,542 We all saw our first rocket launch 263 00:11:51,708 --> 00:11:53,958 straight up over 1,000 feet in the air. 264 00:11:54,083 --> 00:11:56,500 But according to Erik's GPS receiver 265 00:11:56,667 --> 00:11:58,625 tracking the rocket's path, 266 00:11:58,792 --> 00:12:01,583 it supposedly flew straight into the mesa. 267 00:12:01,750 --> 00:12:04,708 Hey, Erik and Travis, if you guys can hear me. 268 00:12:04,875 --> 00:12:07,958 As Jan and I were dragging his GPR through the triangle, 269 00:12:08,125 --> 00:12:09,667 Jan said about five to ten seconds 270 00:12:09,833 --> 00:12:11,667 after that rocket launch, 271 00:12:11,875 --> 00:12:14,083 that he was getting something interesting above us. 272 00:12:14,250 --> 00:12:16,667 TRAVIS: Did you hear what he said? 273 00:12:16,875 --> 00:12:18,458 That radar picked up something 274 00:12:18,625 --> 00:12:21,000 in the air when we launched the rocket. 275 00:12:21,167 --> 00:12:22,417 At the triangle. 276 00:12:22,583 --> 00:12:23,792 KALEB: I am wondering if we did 277 00:12:23,958 --> 00:12:25,375 have some kind of... 278 00:12:25,542 --> 00:12:27,417 interaction or we did get 279 00:12:27,542 --> 00:12:30,292 some kind of reading of something moving above us. 280 00:12:32,083 --> 00:12:33,375 So that's, that's really interesting. 281 00:12:33,542 --> 00:12:34,667 I can't wait to see that data. 282 00:12:34,833 --> 00:12:36,250 We couldn't believe it 283 00:12:36,417 --> 00:12:37,500 when Jan detected something 284 00:12:37,708 --> 00:12:40,042 in the air with his GPR device 285 00:12:40,208 --> 00:12:42,833 above the triangle after our first rocket launch. 286 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,708 He was trying to find an underground tunnel, but, 287 00:12:45,875 --> 00:12:47,458 clearly, some of the radio signals 288 00:12:47,583 --> 00:12:49,875 bounced off something over his head. 289 00:12:50,875 --> 00:12:51,958 We are ready to launch the next rocket 290 00:12:52,125 --> 00:12:54,000 with the GPS tracker on it. 291 00:12:54,208 --> 00:12:55,125 Are you ready? 292 00:12:55,292 --> 00:12:56,792 ERIK: Standing by for launch. 293 00:12:57,917 --> 00:12:59,875 TRAVIS: We had no idea what it could have been. 294 00:13:00,042 --> 00:13:02,000 So we wanted to launch another rocket 295 00:13:02,208 --> 00:13:04,667 as fast as we could to see if it would happen again. 296 00:13:04,875 --> 00:13:07,167 Hey, Kaleb, be advised 297 00:13:07,333 --> 00:13:09,292 that we are gonna launch the rocket 298 00:13:09,458 --> 00:13:11,500 in less than 30 seconds. 299 00:13:11,667 --> 00:13:13,333 Be prepared. 300 00:13:13,458 --> 00:13:15,000 JAN: If we're gonna launch another rocket, 301 00:13:15,125 --> 00:13:17,667 we should stand still and we watch for it, 302 00:13:17,792 --> 00:13:20,667 -and see if we see anything about us. -Okay. 303 00:13:20,833 --> 00:13:23,167 Okay, battery is gonna go hot right now. 304 00:13:24,208 --> 00:13:25,750 (beeping) 305 00:13:25,917 --> 00:13:28,167 Preparing to launch in five, 306 00:13:28,333 --> 00:13:30,333 four, three, 307 00:13:30,500 --> 00:13:32,750 two, one. 308 00:13:38,583 --> 00:13:41,792 What in the hell is going on? 309 00:13:43,417 --> 00:13:46,583 This makes no sense at all! 310 00:13:46,750 --> 00:13:48,833 That is not what that rocket did. 311 00:13:49,833 --> 00:13:52,000 I want an explanation for this. 312 00:13:54,375 --> 00:13:57,000 During the rocket launch, the rocket didn't go 313 00:13:57,208 --> 00:13:58,958 straight into the mesa, but what it appeared to do 314 00:13:59,125 --> 00:14:01,083 was to corkscrew on its way up. 315 00:14:01,208 --> 00:14:03,667 Um, the altitude that it is reported to have reached 316 00:14:03,792 --> 00:14:06,417 is nowhere near where the rocket actually went. 317 00:14:06,583 --> 00:14:09,000 How is that even possible? 318 00:14:10,958 --> 00:14:12,667 Kaleb, you copy? 319 00:14:12,833 --> 00:14:13,958 KALEB: Yeah. Go ahead, Erik. 320 00:14:14,958 --> 00:14:16,625 Are you still seeing any of that artifact 321 00:14:16,792 --> 00:14:18,500 at 30 to 40 feet? 322 00:14:19,875 --> 00:14:21,792 JAN: Uh, roger that, I am. 323 00:14:21,875 --> 00:14:23,333 Yes, it is definitely there. 324 00:14:23,458 --> 00:14:25,708 And it occurred maybe four or five seconds 325 00:14:25,875 --> 00:14:28,208 -after the launch. -ERIK: Wow. 326 00:14:30,292 --> 00:14:32,833 JAN: We saw the exact same effect. 327 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,083 Five or six seconds after that rocket launched, 328 00:14:36,250 --> 00:14:39,458 we see movement at a range of about 40 feet. 329 00:14:39,625 --> 00:14:41,583 I can't explain that at all. 330 00:14:41,750 --> 00:14:43,250 I need to process that data, 331 00:14:43,375 --> 00:14:45,583 but that's something of real interest. 332 00:14:46,750 --> 00:14:48,500 Well, it's been an eventful day. 333 00:14:48,667 --> 00:14:50,042 Heck yeah, it has. 334 00:14:50,208 --> 00:14:51,833 Sounds like Erik got some interesting data. 335 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,250 I'll be interested to see what the camera looks like. 336 00:14:54,417 --> 00:14:56,583 I-I'd say this is a very successful day. 337 00:14:56,750 --> 00:14:58,375 Yeah, I wo-- I would, I would think so. 338 00:14:58,542 --> 00:14:59,917 I can't wait to see 339 00:15:00,042 --> 00:15:01,875 what Jan got down at the triangle. 340 00:15:02,042 --> 00:15:03,708 I say we pack up, we get back 341 00:15:03,875 --> 00:15:05,042 -to see what he's got. -I agree. 342 00:15:05,208 --> 00:15:07,542 BRYANT: Good job, everybody. 343 00:15:15,917 --> 00:15:17,708 -TRAVIS: Hey, guys. -JAN: Come on in. 344 00:15:17,875 --> 00:15:20,667 ERIK: Before we jump into Jan's data 345 00:15:20,833 --> 00:15:22,250 I want to look at some rocket launch data 346 00:15:22,417 --> 00:15:23,750 with you guys. I want to show you 347 00:15:23,917 --> 00:15:26,458 the GPS data for that first flight. 348 00:15:26,583 --> 00:15:28,250 I'm excited to see what you got. 349 00:15:28,375 --> 00:15:30,875 TRAVIS: The next morning, we couldn't wait to see 350 00:15:31,042 --> 00:15:33,375 if Jan was able to find evidence 351 00:15:33,542 --> 00:15:35,875 of a tunnel underground in the triangle area. 352 00:15:36,042 --> 00:15:38,333 But first, we really wanted to review 353 00:15:38,542 --> 00:15:41,417 the GPS data from our east field rocket launch 354 00:15:41,625 --> 00:15:43,917 when Jan's GPR device 355 00:15:44,083 --> 00:15:46,083 simultaneously detected something 356 00:15:46,250 --> 00:15:48,458 above ground at the triangle. 357 00:15:48,625 --> 00:15:51,583 Okay, so, you tell me... 358 00:15:54,250 --> 00:15:56,042 ...what's wrong with this picture? 359 00:15:58,042 --> 00:16:01,292 (laughs) The rocket went straight up to 2,000 feet. 360 00:16:01,458 --> 00:16:02,708 Mm-hmm. 361 00:16:02,875 --> 00:16:05,458 And you see these points over here? 362 00:16:05,542 --> 00:16:07,333 They're inside the mesa. 363 00:16:07,542 --> 00:16:08,958 -Now. -TRAVIS: There they are, look at that. 364 00:16:09,125 --> 00:16:12,333 ERIK: Look exactly where they went in. 365 00:16:12,542 --> 00:16:14,000 TRAVIS: Wow. 366 00:16:14,167 --> 00:16:15,750 THOMAS: That's right where we saw the UAP 367 00:16:15,875 --> 00:16:17,208 last year go into the mesa. 368 00:16:17,375 --> 00:16:20,542 That's a good point. The entry point right there. 369 00:16:20,708 --> 00:16:22,208 Crazy, man. 370 00:16:22,375 --> 00:16:25,708 The GPS data shows this rocket flew straight 371 00:16:25,875 --> 00:16:27,833 at the mesa and directly into a spot 372 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:29,917 that we call the "in point." 373 00:16:30,083 --> 00:16:33,042 Now that's where we've seen a UAP enter 374 00:16:33,250 --> 00:16:35,750 the east field mesa and then exit it 375 00:16:35,917 --> 00:16:38,000 a half a mile away before disappearing 376 00:16:38,208 --> 00:16:40,000 into thin air near the triangle. 377 00:16:40,208 --> 00:16:42,792 We don't know what's causing the GPS errors, 378 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:44,875 but it is obvious 379 00:16:45,083 --> 00:16:47,167 that something has prevented us from getting 380 00:16:47,333 --> 00:16:49,500 accurate data on Skinwalker Ranch. 381 00:16:49,667 --> 00:16:52,792 KALEB: And at the exact same time, Jan was picking up 382 00:16:52,958 --> 00:16:55,083 those radar anomalies. 383 00:16:55,250 --> 00:16:57,167 TRAVIS: That's right, Jan had the GPR set up 384 00:16:57,250 --> 00:16:59,792 when we did this launch, and he picked up 385 00:16:59,958 --> 00:17:02,417 uh, something in the sky 386 00:17:02,625 --> 00:17:04,708 that seemed to be 40 feet above him over the triangle. 387 00:17:04,875 --> 00:17:08,375 Yes, exactly, we can actually see that on this data set. 388 00:17:08,542 --> 00:17:10,375 -Yeah, let's take a look. -JAN: Okay. 389 00:17:11,625 --> 00:17:13,333 So, the radar's continuously 390 00:17:13,500 --> 00:17:15,833 running, it's taking readings ten times a second. 391 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:17,833 Now what is the radar really detecting? 392 00:17:17,958 --> 00:17:19,208 It's detecting changes. 393 00:17:19,375 --> 00:17:20,875 And we're in an open field 394 00:17:21,042 --> 00:17:23,083 and there's no cows or anything else moving. 395 00:17:23,250 --> 00:17:27,042 So if we just stand still and nobody moves, 396 00:17:27,208 --> 00:17:29,500 then there shouldn't be any changes at all. 397 00:17:29,667 --> 00:17:31,208 So, what I want you to do is 398 00:17:31,375 --> 00:17:34,208 take a look at the bottom of the screen, okay? 399 00:17:35,208 --> 00:17:36,833 So here's what's interesting. 400 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:38,208 The launch happened-- 401 00:17:38,375 --> 00:17:39,667 I happened to get the timestamp off of it-- 402 00:17:39,833 --> 00:17:40,833 right here. 403 00:17:40,958 --> 00:17:42,917 Okay? 404 00:17:43,083 --> 00:17:45,917 About six seconds later, five seconds later, 405 00:17:46,042 --> 00:17:48,042 we have this blip. 406 00:17:49,375 --> 00:17:51,750 It's probably sitting around 40 feet 407 00:17:51,875 --> 00:17:53,708 above the ground. 408 00:17:53,875 --> 00:17:56,708 And that's a very, very strong blip. 409 00:17:56,833 --> 00:17:59,375 Okay, now what does that mean? 410 00:17:59,542 --> 00:18:03,500 Okay, something changed and created an interference. 411 00:18:03,583 --> 00:18:06,667 TRAVIS: So we launched a rocket a mile away from you, 412 00:18:06,833 --> 00:18:09,667 and, uh, you detected some sort 413 00:18:09,833 --> 00:18:11,458 -of anomaly, uh... -JAN: Yeah. 414 00:18:11,625 --> 00:18:14,792 -...happened about 40 feet above you? -JAN: Yeah. 415 00:18:14,958 --> 00:18:17,167 Well, I assure you there was nothing above us, but... 416 00:18:17,333 --> 00:18:19,833 -nothing that we could see. -Nothing that you could see, yeah, that's right. 417 00:18:20,042 --> 00:18:21,167 -JAN: Exactly. -ERIK: Right, that's the point. 418 00:18:21,292 --> 00:18:23,000 And I saw that, and I was like, 419 00:18:23,125 --> 00:18:25,083 "What just caused that?" 420 00:18:25,250 --> 00:18:27,458 And it happened twice, if I remember correctly. 421 00:18:27,667 --> 00:18:28,667 JAN: That's right. 422 00:18:28,792 --> 00:18:30,667 So here's the interesting part. 423 00:18:30,792 --> 00:18:32,542 Repeatability, right? That's how science works. 424 00:18:32,708 --> 00:18:34,000 Check this out. 425 00:18:34,167 --> 00:18:37,792 So we'll go along in time and it happened... 426 00:18:37,917 --> 00:18:39,583 again. 427 00:18:39,750 --> 00:18:41,417 -Right there. -TRAVIS: Wow, look at that. 428 00:18:41,583 --> 00:18:44,333 JAN: This happened after your second launch. 429 00:18:44,500 --> 00:18:47,250 So that means, somehow or other, launching a rocket 430 00:18:47,417 --> 00:18:49,542 in the east canyon field down there, 431 00:18:49,708 --> 00:18:51,917 somehow at the triangle, 432 00:18:52,125 --> 00:18:55,333 we detect an electromagnetic disturbance. 433 00:18:55,542 --> 00:18:57,833 Well, no, we detect an object. 434 00:18:58,042 --> 00:19:00,042 -We detect an object. That... -JAN: That appears and disappears. 435 00:19:00,208 --> 00:19:03,083 That appears and disappears for just a few seconds. 436 00:19:05,292 --> 00:19:07,250 What on earth is that? 437 00:19:07,417 --> 00:19:09,417 ERIK: Well, now that's a good question 438 00:19:10,375 --> 00:19:12,333 And I've got something to show you that I think 439 00:19:12,542 --> 00:19:14,000 you're gonna find really interesting given 440 00:19:14,125 --> 00:19:16,250 what we already know about this anomaly. 441 00:19:18,708 --> 00:19:21,042 This is a camera that's positioned right on 442 00:19:21,250 --> 00:19:22,708 on the observation point there on the tower, 443 00:19:22,875 --> 00:19:25,333 here in the east field, looking off towards the west, 444 00:19:25,458 --> 00:19:27,125 right there at the triangle. 445 00:19:28,125 --> 00:19:29,250 I want to see if you spot what I spotted 446 00:19:29,417 --> 00:19:30,792 when I played through this. 447 00:19:32,250 --> 00:19:33,792 TRAVIS: Whoa, whoa! Was that it? 448 00:19:33,958 --> 00:19:36,333 That was fast, whatever it was. 449 00:19:36,500 --> 00:19:37,667 ERIK: Let me take it back. 450 00:19:37,875 --> 00:19:39,667 Is it just one frame? 451 00:19:39,833 --> 00:19:41,333 Uh, no, there are several frames here. 452 00:19:41,500 --> 00:19:43,375 So you'll see it enter 453 00:19:43,583 --> 00:19:46,417 the field of view from the right. 454 00:19:48,292 --> 00:19:50,833 And I'll tell you why I find this interesting. 455 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,375 Okay, we get to this frame. 456 00:19:53,542 --> 00:19:55,958 -(key clicks) -And it's gone. 457 00:19:56,125 --> 00:19:57,333 What? 458 00:19:57,542 --> 00:19:58,500 Yeah. 459 00:20:00,500 --> 00:20:02,417 KALEB: It disappeared right there. 460 00:20:06,708 --> 00:20:08,125 THOMAS: It disappeared right there. 461 00:20:08,292 --> 00:20:10,833 What on earth is that? 462 00:20:13,125 --> 00:20:15,333 THOMAS: So how many frames? 463 00:20:15,500 --> 00:20:17,667 ERIK: Okay. We can count them. 464 00:20:17,875 --> 00:20:19,417 -TRAVIS: One. Uh-huh. -ERIK: So there's your first. 465 00:20:19,583 --> 00:20:21,917 BOTH: Two, three, four, 466 00:20:22,083 --> 00:20:24,792 -ERIK: Five. -What in the world is that? 467 00:20:24,958 --> 00:20:27,208 ERIK: You know again, just for added context, 468 00:20:27,375 --> 00:20:29,625 remember, Jan was out there at the triangle. 469 00:20:29,792 --> 00:20:32,125 KALEB: Well, I can point out right where we were standing 470 00:20:32,292 --> 00:20:34,208 right here. 471 00:20:35,208 --> 00:20:37,167 We were right down in here. 472 00:20:37,333 --> 00:20:39,458 ERIK: Wow. 473 00:20:39,583 --> 00:20:41,042 TRAVIS: What phenomenology 474 00:20:41,208 --> 00:20:43,542 could-could suddenly get a rocket trigger 475 00:20:43,708 --> 00:20:45,875 there that you would detect with the radar? 476 00:20:47,125 --> 00:20:48,667 You have no speculation, right? 477 00:20:48,792 --> 00:20:50,208 I have no speculation. 478 00:20:50,375 --> 00:20:53,208 TRAVIS: They say seeing is believing, 479 00:20:53,375 --> 00:20:54,750 but it was totally unbelievable 480 00:20:54,958 --> 00:20:57,708 that just seconds after we launched a rocket 481 00:20:57,875 --> 00:20:59,500 in the east field yesterday, 482 00:20:59,667 --> 00:21:02,708 Jan Francke's radar device detected something 483 00:21:02,875 --> 00:21:05,750 hundreds of yards away above the triangle. 484 00:21:06,958 --> 00:21:08,500 And at that exact same moment, 485 00:21:08,667 --> 00:21:11,667 Erik's surveillance camera captured images of a UAP 486 00:21:11,875 --> 00:21:15,292 coming from the east field and then disappearing 487 00:21:15,500 --> 00:21:17,042 right above the triangle. 488 00:21:17,208 --> 00:21:18,792 THOMAS: So look at where it's at, 489 00:21:18,875 --> 00:21:20,583 right there in the middle of the screen, 490 00:21:20,750 --> 00:21:24,583 and if you come straight down that would be exactly 491 00:21:24,750 --> 00:21:27,583 within the bounds of that black hole 492 00:21:27,750 --> 00:21:29,000 in the lidar data. 493 00:21:29,208 --> 00:21:31,292 As soon as you started pointing that out, 494 00:21:31,458 --> 00:21:32,792 that's what hit my mind, Thomas, you're right. 495 00:21:32,917 --> 00:21:35,417 It is absolutely right over 496 00:21:35,542 --> 00:21:38,667 where the hole in the lidar data is. 497 00:21:39,708 --> 00:21:42,333 As scientists, Erik and I have to be very careful 498 00:21:42,458 --> 00:21:43,667 when analyzing data, 499 00:21:43,875 --> 00:21:46,417 but we couldn't deny what Thomas pointed out. 500 00:21:46,583 --> 00:21:49,875 The UAP disappeared right above the triangle. 501 00:21:50,042 --> 00:21:52,833 This is where we've documented all kinds of strange phenomena 502 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:53,958 over the past few years. 503 00:21:55,917 --> 00:21:57,000 Oh, we got a malfunction. 504 00:21:57,083 --> 00:21:58,167 Everybody watch out. 505 00:21:58,333 --> 00:22:00,625 Including a mysterious blob 506 00:22:00,792 --> 00:22:03,167 that seemed to cause a rocket to explode. 507 00:22:03,375 --> 00:22:06,417 -What is that red circle? -Whoa. 508 00:22:06,542 --> 00:22:09,458 TRAVIS: Infrared lidar images of a circular ring 509 00:22:09,625 --> 00:22:11,917 with a black void right in the center. 510 00:22:13,292 --> 00:22:15,333 And another doughnut-shaped anomaly 511 00:22:15,500 --> 00:22:17,625 that we detected just last week. 512 00:22:17,792 --> 00:22:21,000 Could these things help explain what caused this UAP 513 00:22:21,208 --> 00:22:23,542 to disappear above the triangle yesterday? 514 00:22:23,708 --> 00:22:27,000 And if so, what in the world could they be? 515 00:22:27,167 --> 00:22:28,833 BRYANT: It's just more evidence 516 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,333 that there's something above the triangle 517 00:22:30,458 --> 00:22:31,708 and we got to do more work out there. 518 00:22:31,875 --> 00:22:33,250 Yeah, for sure. 519 00:22:33,417 --> 00:22:35,000 ERIK: So, initially, you know, 520 00:22:35,167 --> 00:22:36,917 we were looking for GPR returns 521 00:22:37,083 --> 00:22:40,667 from underground, so, Jan, what are the takeaways? 522 00:22:40,875 --> 00:22:43,042 JAN: So I want to go back and show you some things 523 00:22:43,208 --> 00:22:44,833 that stick out in the radar data. 524 00:22:46,667 --> 00:22:48,833 TRAVIS: After what Jan showed us above the triangle, 525 00:22:49,042 --> 00:22:52,875 we had no idea what to expect from the subsurface scans 526 00:22:53,042 --> 00:22:55,625 he conducted yesterday in the same location 527 00:22:55,750 --> 00:22:58,667 where previous magnetometry and radar surveys 528 00:22:58,875 --> 00:23:02,292 have identified possible voids or even metal tunnels 529 00:23:02,458 --> 00:23:04,542 between the triangle and the mesa. 530 00:23:04,708 --> 00:23:08,125 So just at high level, what are the takeaways? 531 00:23:08,292 --> 00:23:09,458 JAN: When we look at the data 532 00:23:09,625 --> 00:23:11,375 what I want to show you is 533 00:23:11,542 --> 00:23:14,417 we did get some interference right here. 534 00:23:14,625 --> 00:23:16,667 I don't know what that is. 535 00:23:16,833 --> 00:23:19,208 It could be a void, it could be a metal object, 536 00:23:19,375 --> 00:23:20,833 it could be really anything, 537 00:23:20,958 --> 00:23:23,375 but it is different than that surrounding material. 538 00:23:23,542 --> 00:23:25,083 Where is that? 539 00:23:25,250 --> 00:23:28,208 Uh, right-- if you can see the gray marker on the map. 540 00:23:28,417 --> 00:23:29,750 Right about there. 541 00:23:29,875 --> 00:23:31,417 TRAVIS: Oh, wow. 542 00:23:31,583 --> 00:23:34,333 So it's really interesting that the returns you have 543 00:23:34,500 --> 00:23:36,500 seem to kind of point 544 00:23:36,667 --> 00:23:38,042 -in a general area... -Yes, absolutely. 545 00:23:38,250 --> 00:23:39,667 -...right in that location... -Yeah. 546 00:23:39,875 --> 00:23:40,833 TRAVIS: ...where the Lunasonde data point is. 547 00:23:41,042 --> 00:23:42,500 JAN: Yeah. 548 00:23:42,708 --> 00:23:43,917 TRAVIS: That there is something giving you a return. 549 00:23:44,042 --> 00:23:45,458 JAN: Something's going on there, absolutely. 550 00:23:46,292 --> 00:23:48,167 Wow. 551 00:23:48,333 --> 00:23:49,542 TRAVIS: Repeated data is exactly 552 00:23:49,708 --> 00:23:52,042 what Erik and I look for in our experiments. 553 00:23:52,208 --> 00:23:54,250 So for Jan's GPR survey 554 00:23:54,375 --> 00:23:58,167 to confirm that there could be something strange underground 555 00:23:58,292 --> 00:23:59,833 between the triangle and the mesa, 556 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,042 right where two previous subsurface scans did, too, 557 00:24:03,208 --> 00:24:04,958 is incredible. 558 00:24:05,125 --> 00:24:06,375 The question now is, 559 00:24:06,542 --> 00:24:08,500 what the heck could it be? 560 00:24:08,708 --> 00:24:11,750 We have the rumors that there's an underground base out here. 561 00:24:11,917 --> 00:24:13,833 -I know that. -TRAVIS: But that's just a rumor, 562 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,500 we have no evidence of it-- unless maybe this is 563 00:24:15,625 --> 00:24:16,833 evidence of that. 564 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,167 ERIK: This area, 565 00:24:19,375 --> 00:24:20,875 just to the west of the triangle, 566 00:24:21,083 --> 00:24:24,167 seems to hold secrets that I would love to discover. 567 00:24:24,333 --> 00:24:25,708 Perhaps it's got some relationship 568 00:24:25,875 --> 00:24:28,042 to all of the strange things that we've seen 569 00:24:28,208 --> 00:24:29,917 at surface level. 570 00:24:30,083 --> 00:24:34,292 Yeah, I think that we need to, uh, get our drill out there 571 00:24:34,458 --> 00:24:37,958 and probe it and poke it, and see if we can-- 572 00:24:38,125 --> 00:24:40,458 Get a sample back from it is what we need, whatever it is. 573 00:24:40,625 --> 00:24:42,583 Whether we bring in a geotechnical drill, 574 00:24:42,750 --> 00:24:44,125 that we're just doing a core sample down 575 00:24:44,292 --> 00:24:45,542 and seeing if we find something. 576 00:24:45,708 --> 00:24:47,458 I think a core sample would be great. 577 00:24:47,625 --> 00:24:49,542 This is an accessible spot, so... 578 00:24:49,708 --> 00:24:51,333 -TRAVIS: Let's do it. -Yeah. 579 00:24:51,500 --> 00:24:52,958 ERIK: Well, Jan, 580 00:24:53,125 --> 00:24:54,792 your work has born more fruit than I was expecting. 581 00:24:54,958 --> 00:24:58,000 Both in the sky, it sounds like, potentially, 582 00:24:58,208 --> 00:24:59,750 as well as in the ground. 583 00:24:59,875 --> 00:25:01,667 So we appreciate you coming out and doing this work, 584 00:25:01,792 --> 00:25:04,250 and we look forward to having you come back to follow up. 585 00:25:04,417 --> 00:25:05,750 -My pleasure, I enjoy being here. -TRAVIS: Yeah, absolutely. 586 00:25:05,958 --> 00:25:07,333 -Yeah. -No, it's-it's great. 587 00:25:07,500 --> 00:25:08,667 Yeah, definitely more work to be done. 588 00:25:08,833 --> 00:25:10,333 -ERIK: Yep. -TRAVIS: Well, thanks, guys. 589 00:25:10,500 --> 00:25:11,458 -Let's get to it. -BRYANT: It is awesome. 590 00:25:11,625 --> 00:25:13,083 JAN: Love it. Thank you. 591 00:25:18,375 --> 00:25:20,000 ♪ ♪ 592 00:25:21,167 --> 00:25:23,167 Erik, this is Kaleb. 593 00:25:23,250 --> 00:25:25,000 Letting you know I have Snowshoe 594 00:25:25,125 --> 00:25:27,208 and we are heading to the triangle now. 595 00:25:28,417 --> 00:25:30,958 Copy you, Kaleb, we'll be watching for you. 596 00:25:32,292 --> 00:25:33,958 ERIK: So today, 597 00:25:34,083 --> 00:25:36,333 we're bringing out Jeremy with Snowshoe Engineering 598 00:25:36,542 --> 00:25:37,833 back out on the ranch. He's been here before. 599 00:25:38,042 --> 00:25:40,958 We've identified points where we want Jeremy 600 00:25:41,125 --> 00:25:44,125 to place his rig and take some core samples. 601 00:25:44,333 --> 00:25:46,542 We have the Lunasonde data, 602 00:25:46,708 --> 00:25:48,250 we have Jan's GPR data 603 00:25:48,417 --> 00:25:50,000 or ground-penetrating radar data, 604 00:25:50,167 --> 00:25:52,708 and we have this magnetic survey that was performed. 605 00:25:52,917 --> 00:25:54,625 All of them seeming to indicate 606 00:25:54,750 --> 00:25:57,125 that there's something exceptional 607 00:25:57,250 --> 00:25:59,875 beneath the ground just to the west of the triangle, 608 00:26:00,042 --> 00:26:01,875 and that's where we're drilling today. 609 00:26:02,875 --> 00:26:04,208 You guys ready to do some drilling? 610 00:26:04,375 --> 00:26:05,792 Yep. We are ready. 611 00:26:05,958 --> 00:26:06,792 Yeah. 612 00:26:06,958 --> 00:26:08,208 ERIK: We very well may be 613 00:26:08,375 --> 00:26:10,417 coming into something that is, that is metallic 614 00:26:10,625 --> 00:26:11,875 according to some of the measurements we made. 615 00:26:12,042 --> 00:26:14,708 -Well, we'll know it. Yep. -ERIK: Okay, good. 616 00:26:14,875 --> 00:26:16,333 I understand you can go down about 30 feet 617 00:26:16,500 --> 00:26:17,750 with that 8-inch bit. 618 00:26:17,875 --> 00:26:20,458 Yep, yep, that's what we're ready to do today. 619 00:26:20,625 --> 00:26:22,583 As always, you know, 620 00:26:22,750 --> 00:26:25,625 when we seem to do these types of activities, 621 00:26:25,750 --> 00:26:27,667 just make sure you take care of yourselves. 622 00:26:27,875 --> 00:26:30,375 If you feel off physically or anything like that, 623 00:26:30,542 --> 00:26:32,292 that's important. Please let us know. 624 00:26:32,458 --> 00:26:34,000 There's no egos out here. 625 00:26:34,208 --> 00:26:36,042 We want to make sure that you guys are healthy to do your job. 626 00:26:37,375 --> 00:26:39,833 THOMAS: We inherited a narrative on this ranch, 627 00:26:40,042 --> 00:26:41,708 that bad things happen when you dig. 628 00:26:41,917 --> 00:26:45,667 And while I still can't say whether or not that's true, 629 00:26:45,833 --> 00:26:47,958 I will tell you that I've experienced 630 00:26:48,125 --> 00:26:51,292 a lot of bad things shortly after I've dug on the ranch. 631 00:26:52,500 --> 00:26:54,833 I suffered this injury in which 632 00:26:54,958 --> 00:26:58,000 my head became very swollen, 633 00:26:58,125 --> 00:27:01,500 and the thing about this injury is 634 00:27:01,667 --> 00:27:03,417 that it affected me in a way 635 00:27:03,583 --> 00:27:05,542 that the doctors were just baffled. 636 00:27:05,667 --> 00:27:07,208 It leaves you wondering, 637 00:27:07,375 --> 00:27:09,583 you know, what's taking place here on the ranch 638 00:27:09,708 --> 00:27:11,958 that is causing these physical ailments. 639 00:27:12,167 --> 00:27:13,750 All right, let's do it. 640 00:27:13,958 --> 00:27:15,333 TRAVIS: Let's get rolling! 641 00:27:15,500 --> 00:27:17,250 During the drilling operation... 642 00:27:18,667 --> 00:27:21,083 ...Erik will collect GPS data from a tracker 643 00:27:21,250 --> 00:27:22,917 attached to the drill rig. 644 00:27:23,958 --> 00:27:26,000 We'll also be running our high-speed cameras 645 00:27:26,167 --> 00:27:29,333 that record hundreds of images per second to constantly 646 00:27:29,542 --> 00:27:32,667 scan the area above the triangle 647 00:27:32,875 --> 00:27:34,667 and the drill rig for anything strange 648 00:27:34,833 --> 00:27:36,292 we might miss in the moment. 649 00:27:36,458 --> 00:27:38,167 Who knows if all the UAPs 650 00:27:38,375 --> 00:27:41,833 and possible evidence of portals that we've seen 651 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,083 could be connected to something underground? 652 00:27:44,292 --> 00:27:46,333 But, hopefully, today we'll figure that out. 653 00:27:46,458 --> 00:27:47,750 Good? 654 00:27:52,417 --> 00:27:54,542 Hey, guys. Just letting you know, the drill is going. 655 00:27:54,708 --> 00:27:56,250 We are in the ground. 656 00:28:02,208 --> 00:28:04,125 ♪ ♪ 657 00:28:05,708 --> 00:28:07,292 KALEB: I've heard all the stories, too, 658 00:28:07,458 --> 00:28:10,125 that there's underground facilities out here, 659 00:28:10,292 --> 00:28:13,083 there's some kind of alien technology 660 00:28:13,250 --> 00:28:15,958 underneath the triangle area and so... 661 00:28:16,042 --> 00:28:18,500 if there's an actual tunnel or tunnel system 662 00:28:18,708 --> 00:28:20,000 below Skinwalker Ranch, 663 00:28:20,167 --> 00:28:22,167 I think that would be truly validating. 664 00:28:22,375 --> 00:28:24,833 So I'm really interested to see what happens 665 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,792 over the course of drilling. 666 00:28:50,375 --> 00:28:51,833 Hey, guys. 667 00:28:52,042 --> 00:28:54,042 They're hitting a harder substance. 668 00:28:57,542 --> 00:28:59,250 Do you want a core sample? 669 00:28:59,417 --> 00:29:01,833 Yes, Thomas. If we can, uh, get both of them over here, 670 00:29:02,042 --> 00:29:04,458 -we'll take a look at 'em. -Copy that. 671 00:29:06,208 --> 00:29:08,792 ♪ ♪ 672 00:29:21,167 --> 00:29:22,333 Hey, buddy. 673 00:29:23,667 --> 00:29:27,000 So kind of weird at the bottom of this one. 674 00:29:27,208 --> 00:29:29,333 There's a hard layer and then a soft layer. 675 00:29:29,500 --> 00:29:31,000 THOMAS: Maybe indicating 676 00:29:31,167 --> 00:29:33,125 that we got a water pocket or something under there. 677 00:29:33,250 --> 00:29:35,000 Nah... 678 00:29:35,167 --> 00:29:36,667 I don't know what it would be, I mean, 679 00:29:36,875 --> 00:29:38,500 we'll loosen it 680 00:29:38,708 --> 00:29:40,333 -and you can check it out. -Okay. 681 00:29:40,542 --> 00:29:42,167 JEREMY: If you want to pay attention to what's in the shoe, 682 00:29:42,375 --> 00:29:44,417 'cause that's where the weirdness happened. 683 00:29:44,583 --> 00:29:45,875 THOMAS: Okay. 684 00:29:46,833 --> 00:29:48,667 I'll be back. 685 00:29:48,833 --> 00:29:51,708 After being on this ranch for seven years 686 00:29:51,875 --> 00:29:56,125 and hearing countless stories of tunnels and caves 687 00:29:56,250 --> 00:29:59,208 and vast, complex systems underground, 688 00:29:59,375 --> 00:30:01,167 could it be that we're finally punching through 689 00:30:01,375 --> 00:30:03,375 into what's underneath the triangle? 690 00:30:05,042 --> 00:30:06,708 This one may be of interest. 691 00:30:06,917 --> 00:30:08,500 -This is our 30-foot sample. -Okay. 692 00:30:08,708 --> 00:30:10,333 And the reason I say it may be of interest is 693 00:30:10,500 --> 00:30:14,167 that when Jeremy handed it to me, he told me 694 00:30:14,375 --> 00:30:16,625 that this is different than what they see 695 00:30:16,792 --> 00:30:17,792 in most of their drilling. 696 00:30:17,917 --> 00:30:19,167 ERIK: Okay. 697 00:30:20,875 --> 00:30:21,833 THOMAS: Here we go. 698 00:30:22,042 --> 00:30:23,708 So if you could see, 699 00:30:23,875 --> 00:30:26,833 solid, solid, solid, and then nothing. 700 00:30:26,917 --> 00:30:29,583 Like they just hit the ceiling of whatever it was, 701 00:30:29,750 --> 00:30:31,833 punched through and, and that was it. 702 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,333 So that would imply a void. 703 00:30:34,500 --> 00:30:35,708 Yes. 704 00:30:35,875 --> 00:30:37,917 ERIK: Interesting. 705 00:30:44,208 --> 00:30:46,417 So that would imply a void? ERIK: 706 00:30:46,583 --> 00:30:47,958 Yes. 707 00:30:49,167 --> 00:30:50,375 Interesting. 708 00:30:50,542 --> 00:30:53,375 Thomas is delivering these core samples 709 00:30:53,542 --> 00:30:56,500 from the drill site in sections to the table. 710 00:30:56,667 --> 00:30:59,125 We're at about 27 feet and... 711 00:30:59,292 --> 00:31:01,667 it appears that there's some kind of opening. 712 00:31:01,833 --> 00:31:03,333 I'm really interested in finding out 713 00:31:03,542 --> 00:31:05,167 how big this void is. 714 00:31:05,333 --> 00:31:07,333 And I can't help wondering, what have we hit here 715 00:31:07,542 --> 00:31:08,917 beneath the triangle? 716 00:31:09,083 --> 00:31:10,875 It's almost like you drove a pipe into a pipe. 717 00:31:11,042 --> 00:31:13,667 -Well, that's interesting. -That's damn interesting. 718 00:31:13,833 --> 00:31:15,583 All right, before we even move that, 719 00:31:15,750 --> 00:31:17,958 I want to take a radiation measurement. 720 00:31:19,875 --> 00:31:21,958 ♪ ♪ 721 00:31:24,542 --> 00:31:26,125 So far, nothing. 722 00:31:27,042 --> 00:31:28,542 All right, well, I'll tell you what, 723 00:31:28,708 --> 00:31:30,250 -um, I want, I want to bag these samples. -Yeah. 724 00:31:30,417 --> 00:31:32,000 Tell me if I'm wrong, but it makes sense 725 00:31:32,167 --> 00:31:33,458 to just keep punching through 726 00:31:33,625 --> 00:31:35,125 to see how far it goes like that. 727 00:31:35,250 --> 00:31:37,750 I think he's got the ability to go another 20 feet. 728 00:31:37,917 --> 00:31:39,167 -I say let's do it. -Okay. 729 00:31:39,375 --> 00:31:40,708 I mean, after all, we are hitting 730 00:31:40,875 --> 00:31:42,333 something interesting right there. 731 00:31:42,542 --> 00:31:43,917 Maybe I'll run over there and tell him to, 732 00:31:44,083 --> 00:31:45,292 if possible, let's go with the same hole. 733 00:31:45,500 --> 00:31:47,167 Understood, yeah, okay. If he's up for it. 734 00:31:47,333 --> 00:31:49,167 I don't know what we've gotten into here, 735 00:31:49,333 --> 00:31:52,833 but we've just begun penetrating 736 00:31:52,958 --> 00:31:56,500 a very different region from everything above. 737 00:31:56,667 --> 00:31:57,875 So, my instincts as a scientist, 738 00:31:58,042 --> 00:32:00,000 if not my impulse, is to keep going. 739 00:32:00,167 --> 00:32:02,500 Let's find out how big this void is. 740 00:32:10,250 --> 00:32:12,833 I'm getting like a really bad metallic... 741 00:32:13,042 --> 00:32:14,792 -Taste? -...taste, are you? 742 00:32:14,958 --> 00:32:16,542 Or just me? 743 00:32:17,917 --> 00:32:21,000 -No. -Really weird. 744 00:32:21,125 --> 00:32:22,417 Do you feel all right? 745 00:32:22,625 --> 00:32:25,667 I feel fine, it's just like, very metallic-y. 746 00:32:25,833 --> 00:32:27,333 MASON: Well, you know what they say, 747 00:32:27,500 --> 00:32:30,792 -it's a curse to break ground out here. -BRADY: Yeah. 748 00:32:30,958 --> 00:32:33,542 Well, if it gets worse, say something. 749 00:32:33,708 --> 00:32:35,667 ERIK: Well, guys, you're going to be interested in this. 750 00:32:35,792 --> 00:32:38,333 -Yeah? -I just learned from Thomas... 751 00:32:38,542 --> 00:32:42,292 we ran into what is essentially a void. 752 00:32:42,417 --> 00:32:44,792 -Wow. -So I've asked him to keep going, 753 00:32:44,958 --> 00:32:46,500 to just keep on punching through 754 00:32:46,667 --> 00:32:49,208 to see how deep that runs, 'cause that could explain 755 00:32:49,375 --> 00:32:52,000 that point that we saw in the Lunasonde survey 756 00:32:52,208 --> 00:32:54,292 and it could line up with some of what Jan has shown us. 757 00:32:54,375 --> 00:32:56,125 So, while we've got it open, we ought to 758 00:32:56,292 --> 00:32:57,958 just keep punching down through to see what we get. 759 00:32:58,125 --> 00:32:59,292 Sounds like we're in agreement. 760 00:32:59,375 --> 00:33:00,458 -Yeah. -Okay. 761 00:33:03,250 --> 00:33:05,333 Shut it down, shut it down. 762 00:33:07,167 --> 00:33:09,375 While we're ready to start drilling 763 00:33:09,583 --> 00:33:12,167 beyond that 30-foot mark that we were originally at, 764 00:33:12,375 --> 00:33:15,333 I go over to check on them and see if we're ready to get going, 765 00:33:15,542 --> 00:33:18,167 and Brady just told me 766 00:33:18,333 --> 00:33:21,667 that he's got a really strong metallic taste in his mouth. 767 00:33:21,875 --> 00:33:23,958 Come on, we're going. 768 00:33:24,958 --> 00:33:27,542 Hey, guys. Somebody. 769 00:33:27,708 --> 00:33:28,625 Having been on this ranch, 770 00:33:28,792 --> 00:33:30,792 I've experienced that before, 771 00:33:30,917 --> 00:33:33,583 and for me personally it's been accompanied by 772 00:33:33,750 --> 00:33:35,792 some serious health issues, 773 00:33:35,958 --> 00:33:38,000 so I'm really concerned at this point. 774 00:33:38,208 --> 00:33:40,208 So you-- Are you-- Like, are you feeling okay? 775 00:33:40,375 --> 00:33:42,708 No, I feel completely fine, it's just the really, like, 776 00:33:42,917 --> 00:33:45,125 strong metallic taste I have in my mouth. 777 00:33:45,208 --> 00:33:48,417 -Dragon! -I feel completely normal. 778 00:33:48,625 --> 00:33:51,958 -When did you first... -It's been about an hour now. 779 00:33:52,125 --> 00:33:53,250 THOMAS: Oh, shoot. 780 00:33:53,417 --> 00:33:54,792 Hey, guys? 781 00:33:54,958 --> 00:33:56,667 TRAVIS: What's happening, Erik? 782 00:33:56,833 --> 00:33:58,750 -Dragon! -BRYANT: What's going on? 783 00:33:58,875 --> 00:34:00,333 THOMAS: We-we have a safety issue we need to address right now. 784 00:34:00,500 --> 00:34:02,458 -Is something happening? -What's going on? 785 00:34:02,625 --> 00:34:03,708 BRYANT: I don't know. Thomas is just on his way over. 786 00:34:03,875 --> 00:34:05,333 Well, um... He-- Look, he's... 787 00:34:05,500 --> 00:34:06,750 -He's feeling fine. -I feel perfectly fine. 788 00:34:06,917 --> 00:34:09,042 But he's had-- For the last little while, 789 00:34:09,250 --> 00:34:11,167 he's had a really strong metallic taste in his mouth. 790 00:34:11,375 --> 00:34:13,333 ERIK: Oh, oh, whoa, whoa. 791 00:34:13,500 --> 00:34:15,833 -That is a very strong sign of something going on. -Yeah. 792 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,500 ERIK: And have you been right over there 793 00:34:17,625 --> 00:34:19,375 -right next to the rig or on it? -Yeah, I've been running it. 794 00:34:19,542 --> 00:34:21,167 ERIK: Brady, from Snowshoe, 795 00:34:21,375 --> 00:34:23,833 is describing metal taste in his mouth, 796 00:34:24,042 --> 00:34:25,333 and I recognize that right away 797 00:34:25,542 --> 00:34:27,333 as one of the potential symptoms of exposure 798 00:34:27,542 --> 00:34:30,917 to a very high magnetic field, among other things. 799 00:34:31,083 --> 00:34:33,333 Like increased levels of radiation. 800 00:34:33,542 --> 00:34:35,625 I don't know exactly what the cause is, 801 00:34:35,792 --> 00:34:37,125 but this is concerning. 802 00:34:37,292 --> 00:34:38,500 I think we should quit talking about it 803 00:34:38,708 --> 00:34:39,500 and get him off the ranch. 804 00:34:39,708 --> 00:34:40,833 I agree. I agree, I agree. 805 00:34:40,958 --> 00:34:41,792 ERIK: Hey, guys, you want to help me 806 00:34:41,917 --> 00:34:42,833 take some instruments over 807 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,292 and take some local readings? 808 00:34:44,417 --> 00:34:45,792 Maybe we need to go measure the gamma's 809 00:34:45,875 --> 00:34:46,708 -and stuff over there. -All right. 810 00:34:46,875 --> 00:34:48,000 -I agree. -Let's go. 811 00:34:48,167 --> 00:34:49,792 TRAVIS: Now, I don't know if the legend 812 00:34:49,917 --> 00:34:51,500 about bad things happening when you disturb the earth 813 00:34:51,667 --> 00:34:53,417 on Skinwalker Ranch is true or not, 814 00:34:53,542 --> 00:34:55,625 but since Brady was experiencing symptoms 815 00:34:55,792 --> 00:34:57,417 like you'd get with high levels 816 00:34:57,542 --> 00:34:59,667 of electromagnetic radiation exposure, 817 00:34:59,875 --> 00:35:02,083 we wanted to take measurements and readings 818 00:35:02,250 --> 00:35:04,167 with our scanning devices to see exactly 819 00:35:04,333 --> 00:35:06,167 what may be coming out of that hole, 820 00:35:06,375 --> 00:35:08,125 and we all wanted to make certain 821 00:35:08,250 --> 00:35:09,417 we weren't in any danger. 822 00:35:09,583 --> 00:35:11,208 Uh... 823 00:35:11,375 --> 00:35:12,958 I'm not getting anything significant on the gamma ray. 824 00:35:13,125 --> 00:35:14,958 No, I'm getting exactly the same reading 825 00:35:15,083 --> 00:35:16,375 as I got over there on our table. 826 00:35:16,583 --> 00:35:18,833 -It's not gamma rays. -ERIK: Okay. So, so, 827 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:19,833 I don't see anything here to account 828 00:35:19,958 --> 00:35:20,875 for what he is experiencing. 829 00:35:21,042 --> 00:35:22,542 TRAVIS: Me, either. 830 00:35:22,708 --> 00:35:24,083 You know, just because we're not getting anything 831 00:35:24,208 --> 00:35:26,333 with these instruments doesn't necessarily mean 832 00:35:26,542 --> 00:35:28,083 that there wasn't something affecting him. 833 00:35:28,292 --> 00:35:30,250 Because it could be, uh, microwaves. 834 00:35:30,375 --> 00:35:31,833 It could be anything. 835 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,500 -240. -Oh, it's going up. 836 00:35:33,708 --> 00:35:36,000 -You got a 240? -Yeah, I just got a 240. 837 00:35:36,208 --> 00:35:38,333 -TRAVIS: It spiked. Mine did, too. -0.3. 0.3. 0.3 right there. 838 00:35:38,458 --> 00:35:41,500 That's the highest reading I've had today. 839 00:35:41,625 --> 00:35:44,375 -So that's two times our normal measurement. -And what are you measuring? 840 00:35:44,542 --> 00:35:46,167 It's a measure of the radiation dose per hour. 841 00:35:46,375 --> 00:35:49,083 So, we're-we're at roughly, uh, 842 00:35:49,250 --> 00:35:51,042 500 to 1,000 times below anything dangerous. 843 00:35:51,208 --> 00:35:53,125 Yeah. I can't connect the dots 844 00:35:53,208 --> 00:35:55,833 to a metallic taste in his mouth. 845 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,500 THOMAS: So, if I understand right, 846 00:35:57,708 --> 00:35:59,458 you guys are kind of dead in the water 847 00:35:59,625 --> 00:36:00,583 until the driller comes back, so this is gonna sit as is. 848 00:36:00,750 --> 00:36:02,250 Yup. 849 00:36:02,458 --> 00:36:03,833 ERIK: Oh, so you can't keep going? 850 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:04,958 -No. -Yeah, so we need to... 851 00:36:05,125 --> 00:36:06,667 I did not understand that. 852 00:36:06,833 --> 00:36:08,125 I find that interesting, right? 853 00:36:08,250 --> 00:36:11,292 How is it that the one, uh... 854 00:36:11,417 --> 00:36:15,000 weak link in the chain is what got attacked or affected 855 00:36:15,167 --> 00:36:16,375 and can't be here to continue drilling? 856 00:36:16,500 --> 00:36:18,125 The critical link in the chain. 857 00:36:18,292 --> 00:36:19,458 TRAVIS: The critical link is right. Yeah. 858 00:36:19,625 --> 00:36:21,250 ERIK: I'm sure this won't be the last 859 00:36:21,417 --> 00:36:23,333 frustration of its kind on the ranch 860 00:36:23,417 --> 00:36:25,000 when we're doing something like this, 861 00:36:25,167 --> 00:36:26,542 trying to drill into the ground or into the mesa. 862 00:36:26,750 --> 00:36:29,500 I'm not prepared to give up on this location, 863 00:36:29,667 --> 00:36:31,667 but at least for now we're going to have to shut down, 864 00:36:31,875 --> 00:36:34,292 regroup, and figure out how we're gonna go forward. 865 00:36:35,958 --> 00:36:38,208 -I'm starting to taste metal. I'm not kidding. -What? 866 00:36:38,375 --> 00:36:40,333 -I'm not kidding you. -You're tasting metal now, too? 867 00:36:40,458 --> 00:36:41,833 Yeah. I'm not kidding you, I'm-I'm tasting it. 868 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,625 All right, then you need-- You now have to leave. 869 00:36:44,792 --> 00:36:46,250 -Come on. -All right, let's get out of here. 870 00:36:46,458 --> 00:36:49,042 All right, just because of this second one, 871 00:36:49,208 --> 00:36:51,083 I want you guys to load up. 872 00:36:51,292 --> 00:36:52,833 Clear out as quick as you can. 873 00:36:57,625 --> 00:36:58,958 Hey, guys. 874 00:36:59,167 --> 00:37:00,500 ERIK: You're not gonna believe this. 875 00:37:00,708 --> 00:37:02,333 I was standing over there and I start-- no kidding, 876 00:37:02,500 --> 00:37:04,375 I started to taste that metal taste in my mouth. 877 00:37:04,542 --> 00:37:05,708 No kidding. 878 00:37:05,917 --> 00:37:07,375 Well, you're no different than anybody else. 879 00:37:07,542 --> 00:37:08,917 We got to get you out of here. 880 00:37:09,083 --> 00:37:11,292 ERIK: This is bad. 881 00:37:14,958 --> 00:37:16,500 -This is bad. you out o. 882 00:37:16,708 --> 00:37:18,583 It-It's like when you touch your tongue to a battery. 883 00:37:18,708 --> 00:37:20,792 That's the first time I've experienced that, 884 00:37:20,917 --> 00:37:22,000 is standing next to that rig. 885 00:37:22,167 --> 00:37:23,375 Uh, he's the second one, 886 00:37:23,583 --> 00:37:25,292 so we need to get him out of here. 887 00:37:25,458 --> 00:37:26,958 It could be a phenomenology that we never heard of before. 888 00:37:27,125 --> 00:37:28,375 -Right? -Exactly. 889 00:37:28,542 --> 00:37:30,125 Let's go look at that drill rig again. 890 00:37:30,292 --> 00:37:32,375 After drilling into a void, 891 00:37:32,542 --> 00:37:34,375 right where we've detected evidence 892 00:37:34,542 --> 00:37:36,542 of a possible metal tunnel below the triangle, 893 00:37:36,667 --> 00:37:39,542 Erik Bard and driller Brady Davis 894 00:37:39,667 --> 00:37:42,500 suddenly had the sensation of tasting metal in their mouths 895 00:37:42,667 --> 00:37:44,375 and had to be rushed off the property. 896 00:37:44,542 --> 00:37:46,417 We're not sure exactly what caused it, 897 00:37:46,583 --> 00:37:48,333 so Thomas and I needed to see 898 00:37:48,542 --> 00:37:49,708 if we could figure it out. 899 00:37:51,125 --> 00:37:52,667 TRAVIS: Where was Erik standing? 900 00:37:52,833 --> 00:37:53,875 THOMAS: Right here. 901 00:37:54,875 --> 00:37:57,292 Like, it's something in this area right here. 902 00:37:58,500 --> 00:38:00,417 Oh. 903 00:38:03,875 --> 00:38:05,792 Uh, put your hand on that. 904 00:38:09,042 --> 00:38:10,000 TRAVIS: Dude. 905 00:38:10,208 --> 00:38:12,250 ♪ ♪ 906 00:38:14,708 --> 00:38:16,542 That's crazy, man. 907 00:38:16,708 --> 00:38:19,167 I feel like my sinuses are getting, like, 908 00:38:19,375 --> 00:38:21,000 just like I'm going up in an airplane. 909 00:38:21,125 --> 00:38:23,958 So, I can feel this nerve in my arm 910 00:38:24,083 --> 00:38:25,792 right here, all the way up my arm. 911 00:38:25,958 --> 00:38:27,625 THOMAS: Yeah, I feel it, like-- like my skin's crawling. 912 00:38:27,792 --> 00:38:30,792 This thing's highly electrically charged, is what it is. 913 00:38:32,542 --> 00:38:35,417 This is crazy. As soon as we touched the drill rig, 914 00:38:35,583 --> 00:38:38,000 both Thomas and I felt electric shocks. 915 00:38:38,208 --> 00:38:40,333 It's like grabbing an electric fence, dude. 916 00:38:41,333 --> 00:38:42,500 Then my fingers start tingling. 917 00:38:42,708 --> 00:38:43,875 Yeah. 918 00:38:44,042 --> 00:38:45,333 TRAVIS: So, I got the idea 919 00:38:45,542 --> 00:38:47,500 for a quick experiment with volt meters 920 00:38:47,708 --> 00:38:50,792 to see just how much electricity it was actually conducting. 921 00:38:50,958 --> 00:38:54,583 If we measured anything more than a tiny fraction of a volt, 922 00:38:54,708 --> 00:38:56,833 it would mean that we had drilled into something 923 00:38:57,042 --> 00:39:00,625 very strange under the ground near the triangle. 924 00:39:00,792 --> 00:39:01,917 All right. First touch them together 925 00:39:02,083 --> 00:39:03,500 to make sure they say zero. 926 00:39:03,625 --> 00:39:05,667 Yep. Now touch the black one to the ground 927 00:39:05,833 --> 00:39:08,458 and the red one to the pole somewhere. 928 00:39:12,083 --> 00:39:14,458 Oh, yeah, look at that. 929 00:39:14,625 --> 00:39:16,250 Oh, we're getting more than a half a volt 930 00:39:16,375 --> 00:39:18,292 from there to there, easy. 931 00:39:18,417 --> 00:39:19,542 THOMAS: Where's the electricity coming from? 932 00:39:19,750 --> 00:39:21,375 Is this putting electricity out? 933 00:39:21,542 --> 00:39:23,917 TRAVIS: No, look at that. 934 00:39:24,083 --> 00:39:26,000 And there is electricity. 935 00:39:26,125 --> 00:39:29,792 There is absolutely electricity built up on this thing. 936 00:39:29,917 --> 00:39:31,458 There shouldn't be any, should there? 937 00:39:31,583 --> 00:39:34,042 No, not that much, not unless he was drilling 938 00:39:34,208 --> 00:39:35,583 into something conductive 939 00:39:35,750 --> 00:39:37,417 that had electricity flowing through. 940 00:39:38,542 --> 00:39:40,458 Now, a half a volt of electricity 941 00:39:40,625 --> 00:39:41,958 really isn't that much. 942 00:39:42,083 --> 00:39:43,500 It wouldn't even be enough 943 00:39:43,708 --> 00:39:46,542 to power a laptop computer or a light bulb. 944 00:39:46,708 --> 00:39:49,000 But here's the point: this was at least 945 00:39:49,208 --> 00:39:51,458 ten times more than there should be. 946 00:39:51,625 --> 00:39:54,708 Unless there's something artificial down there. 947 00:39:54,875 --> 00:39:56,042 Is it a tunnel? 948 00:39:56,208 --> 00:39:57,500 Well, we don't know that yet, 949 00:39:57,708 --> 00:39:59,708 and we don't know exactly what caused 950 00:39:59,875 --> 00:40:01,667 Erik and Brady to start tasting metal. 951 00:40:01,875 --> 00:40:04,417 Maybe there really is something to the legend 952 00:40:04,583 --> 00:40:07,125 that bad things happen when you disturb the ground 953 00:40:07,292 --> 00:40:08,583 here on Skinwalker Ranch. 954 00:40:08,708 --> 00:40:11,458 Hopefully, those guys are okay. 955 00:40:12,667 --> 00:40:15,125 All right, well, I'm convinced now it's electrical. 956 00:40:15,292 --> 00:40:16,500 Uh, yeah, I am, too. 957 00:40:17,500 --> 00:40:18,792 TRAVIS: Amazing stuff, man. 958 00:40:18,958 --> 00:40:21,375 THOMAS: Yeah, it's crazy for sure. 959 00:40:23,333 --> 00:40:24,667 TRAVIS: We have a lot of data 960 00:40:24,833 --> 00:40:26,833 and high-speed camera video to analyze, 961 00:40:27,042 --> 00:40:29,667 so once we make sure everyone is safe, 962 00:40:29,875 --> 00:40:31,708 we're gonna regroup to see what else 963 00:40:31,875 --> 00:40:33,708 today's experiments will help reveal, 964 00:40:33,875 --> 00:40:36,458 and then we can decide how best to move forward 965 00:40:36,625 --> 00:40:39,875 and figure out just what really is below the triangle. 966 00:40:40,875 --> 00:40:42,250 ERIK: If it turns out that we are 967 00:40:42,417 --> 00:40:44,167 dealing with continuous structures, 968 00:40:44,333 --> 00:40:47,208 anything at all like tunnels, then that does lend credence 969 00:40:47,375 --> 00:40:50,958 to the reports that we've heard of artificial structures, 970 00:40:51,083 --> 00:40:54,500 even things referred to as bases beneath the ranch, 971 00:40:54,625 --> 00:40:58,167 and we are going to have to investigate deeper 972 00:40:58,375 --> 00:41:00,458 what's underground there at the triangle 973 00:41:00,625 --> 00:41:02,333 and perhaps in the east canyon area. 974 00:41:02,542 --> 00:41:04,250 BRANDON: Why do we continue to see 975 00:41:04,375 --> 00:41:08,167 such disturbing events unfold on this piece of property? 976 00:41:08,375 --> 00:41:12,417 What lies in the regions beyond the area of the triangle, 977 00:41:12,542 --> 00:41:14,917 the east field and even the homesteads? 978 00:41:15,083 --> 00:41:18,167 Will we get answers by further exploring 979 00:41:18,375 --> 00:41:20,333 the region of Dry Gulch Creek? 980 00:41:20,500 --> 00:41:22,542 Will there be additional evidence 981 00:41:22,750 --> 00:41:24,750 of potential dire wolves, 982 00:41:24,917 --> 00:41:28,958 or some other type of strange phenomenon? 983 00:41:30,042 --> 00:41:31,500 Time will tell. 984 00:41:34,042 --> 00:41:34,708 CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY A+E NETWORKS