1 00:00:02,042 --> 00:00:03,708 ERIK: Our ambition is to survey the triangle. 2 00:00:03,917 --> 00:00:06,208 JAN: Right here, there is a target. 3 00:00:06,375 --> 00:00:08,000 TRAVIS: Right where the data pointed to a tunnel. 4 00:00:08,167 --> 00:00:09,958 JAN: Yeah, something's going on there. 5 00:00:10,083 --> 00:00:12,417 THOMAS: We need to get our drill out there. 6 00:00:12,625 --> 00:00:15,500 As they're hitting, you can see it just turned to pure liquid. 7 00:00:15,708 --> 00:00:17,333 That would imply a void. 8 00:00:17,542 --> 00:00:20,000 I'm getting, like, a really bad metallic taste. 9 00:00:20,167 --> 00:00:21,458 Shut it down, shut it down. 10 00:00:21,583 --> 00:00:23,458 We have a safety issue we need to address. 11 00:00:23,625 --> 00:00:26,125 ERIK: That could be exposure to radiation. 12 00:00:26,333 --> 00:00:27,750 I'm starting to taste metal. 13 00:00:27,875 --> 00:00:28,917 I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding you. 14 00:00:29,083 --> 00:00:30,958 Everybody needs to vacate this area now. 15 00:00:31,167 --> 00:00:32,708 TRAVIS: Oh, yeah, 16 00:00:32,875 --> 00:00:34,667 there is absolutely electricity built up on this thing. 17 00:00:34,833 --> 00:00:36,333 There shouldn't be any, should there? 18 00:00:36,542 --> 00:00:37,625 TRAVIS: No. 19 00:00:38,500 --> 00:00:42,167 NARRATOR: There is a ranch in Northern Utah. 20 00:00:42,333 --> 00:00:44,667 It is considered the epicenter 21 00:00:44,875 --> 00:00:49,500 of the strangest and most disturbing phenomena on Earth: 22 00:00:49,708 --> 00:00:51,917 animal mutilations, 23 00:00:52,042 --> 00:00:54,292 bizarre UFO sightings 24 00:00:54,458 --> 00:00:59,333 and unusual energies that have proven harmful to humans. 25 00:00:59,542 --> 00:01:02,000 For 20 years, the federal government 26 00:01:02,125 --> 00:01:05,333 tried to find answers and failed. 27 00:01:05,542 --> 00:01:09,458 Now a new team of dedicated scientists, 28 00:01:09,625 --> 00:01:13,333 researchers and experts has taken over. 29 00:01:13,542 --> 00:01:17,500 They are determined to solve the mystery and reveal... 30 00:01:19,958 --> 00:01:23,375 ...The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch. 31 00:01:29,750 --> 00:01:32,375 -ERIK: Hey, guys. -TRAVIS: What's going on, man? 32 00:01:32,542 --> 00:01:34,000 THOMAS: Good to see you back. How are you feeling? 33 00:01:34,167 --> 00:01:36,458 -ERIK: Heck of a lot better. -Good. 34 00:01:36,667 --> 00:01:38,208 TRAVIS: Yesterday, our team had 35 00:01:38,375 --> 00:01:40,500 one of the strangest experiences ever 36 00:01:40,667 --> 00:01:42,708 during our investigation here on Skinwalker Ranch. 37 00:01:44,042 --> 00:01:45,625 Right after we drilled into a void 38 00:01:45,750 --> 00:01:48,292 where previous magnetometry and radar surveys 39 00:01:48,458 --> 00:01:50,000 have detected evidence of 40 00:01:50,167 --> 00:01:52,125 a possible underground tunnel 41 00:01:52,333 --> 00:01:53,917 between the triangle and the mesa, 42 00:01:54,042 --> 00:01:57,792 drill operator Brady Davis and Erik Bard 43 00:01:57,958 --> 00:01:59,333 both started to taste metal. 44 00:01:59,500 --> 00:02:01,833 And after those guys left for safety reasons, 45 00:02:02,042 --> 00:02:04,375 something else happened that made me wonder 46 00:02:04,500 --> 00:02:07,792 if it was caused by whatever we hit underground. 47 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:09,208 Right after you left, Erik, 48 00:02:09,375 --> 00:02:11,167 we're trying to figure out 49 00:02:11,375 --> 00:02:13,167 what is it about this drill that's causing people to 50 00:02:13,250 --> 00:02:15,125 have this metallic taste. 51 00:02:15,208 --> 00:02:17,042 And so, we went over to the drill rig, 52 00:02:17,208 --> 00:02:19,583 and we took a voltmeter 53 00:02:19,750 --> 00:02:22,167 and we touched one lead to the metal 54 00:02:22,333 --> 00:02:25,167 drill bit and the other to the ground. 55 00:02:25,292 --> 00:02:28,625 And we should have measured, you know, nothing, 56 00:02:28,792 --> 00:02:31,250 because there's no current path for anything to flow there 57 00:02:31,417 --> 00:02:33,167 -that we know of. -Okay. 58 00:02:33,375 --> 00:02:35,958 And we measured an electrical field 59 00:02:36,125 --> 00:02:37,833 between the ground and the drill bit. 60 00:02:39,375 --> 00:02:42,500 And who knows how high that voltage got, 61 00:02:42,667 --> 00:02:44,750 while they were standing there beside it and it was drilling. 62 00:02:45,875 --> 00:02:47,083 ERIK: Wow. 63 00:02:47,208 --> 00:02:48,708 I really wish I had stayed around. 64 00:02:49,750 --> 00:02:51,500 Well, you know, I think you are going to be 65 00:02:51,625 --> 00:02:53,875 very interested in what I'm about to show you. 66 00:02:54,042 --> 00:02:55,833 So, you recall, 67 00:02:55,958 --> 00:02:57,333 on the drilling rig, we put one of 68 00:02:57,500 --> 00:03:00,000 -the data-logging GPS sensors. -Oh, yeah, right. 69 00:03:00,167 --> 00:03:01,667 ERIK: I'm going to bring this up. 70 00:03:05,375 --> 00:03:08,958 Watch this. Right there. 71 00:03:09,125 --> 00:03:12,708 -TRAVIS: Oh, my goodness. -ERIK: Now, correct me if I'm wrong, 72 00:03:12,875 --> 00:03:16,125 but that drilling rig did not go into the mesa. 73 00:03:16,292 --> 00:03:18,042 -TRAVIS: Lord, no. -No. 74 00:03:18,250 --> 00:03:21,000 ERIK: Right. That drilling rig didn't move at all. 75 00:03:21,208 --> 00:03:23,417 Nevertheless, what we see happening here is 76 00:03:23,542 --> 00:03:25,250 the GPS data are showing 77 00:03:25,417 --> 00:03:26,958 a track that runs basically... 78 00:03:27,167 --> 00:03:28,792 TRAVIS: Underground and into the mesa. 79 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:30,542 ERIK: Yeah, northwest. 80 00:03:30,708 --> 00:03:32,167 Now, these are 81 00:03:32,333 --> 00:03:34,250 the Lunasonde radar points. 82 00:03:34,417 --> 00:03:36,333 TRAVIS: Look at that. 83 00:03:36,500 --> 00:03:38,500 ERIK: Look at the correspondence between these. 84 00:03:41,542 --> 00:03:45,000 TRAVIS: One year ago, we conducted a radar survey 85 00:03:45,125 --> 00:03:46,333 with a company named Lunasonde, 86 00:03:46,542 --> 00:03:49,167 which detected a possible metallic tunnel 87 00:03:49,333 --> 00:03:51,250 underground between the triangle and the mesa. 88 00:03:51,458 --> 00:03:53,667 And the GPS data from a device that 89 00:03:53,792 --> 00:03:56,125 Erik attached to the drill rig yesterday 90 00:03:56,292 --> 00:03:58,958 shows that the rig somehow moved northwest 91 00:03:59,125 --> 00:04:01,625 and then went into the mesa 92 00:04:01,750 --> 00:04:04,500 along the exact line where this possible tunnel 93 00:04:04,583 --> 00:04:06,667 that we were drilling for was detected. 94 00:04:06,833 --> 00:04:09,250 What in the world could have caused that? 95 00:04:09,417 --> 00:04:12,083 You-you know, it's almost as if we've got something, 96 00:04:12,250 --> 00:04:13,500 whether it's natural or not, 97 00:04:13,625 --> 00:04:17,833 we've got something under the surface 98 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,458 that is influencing the data 99 00:04:20,625 --> 00:04:23,167 that we've collected in several different ways, 100 00:04:23,333 --> 00:04:24,333 completely different technologies, 101 00:04:24,458 --> 00:04:25,667 and they're lining up. 102 00:04:25,833 --> 00:04:27,833 TRAVIS: This is really fascinating, 103 00:04:27,958 --> 00:04:30,958 that there could be something under the ground right there 104 00:04:31,125 --> 00:04:33,292 that's causing these phenomena. 105 00:04:33,500 --> 00:04:36,042 ERIK: Yes, it makes me want to keep drilling 106 00:04:36,208 --> 00:04:37,833 -down into that hole. -Yes. 107 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:39,292 Yes. 108 00:04:39,458 --> 00:04:40,333 ERIK: So, I want to get your eyes on 109 00:04:40,500 --> 00:04:41,625 the high-speed video footage. 110 00:04:41,792 --> 00:04:44,833 -TRAVIS: Oh, there's more? -Oh, yes. 111 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,375 TRAVIS: During the drilling operation, we also had 112 00:04:47,542 --> 00:04:49,292 a high-speed camera pointed at the sky 113 00:04:49,458 --> 00:04:51,292 directly above the triangle, 114 00:04:51,458 --> 00:04:53,000 taking hundreds of shots per second, 115 00:04:53,167 --> 00:04:54,625 looking for anything strange, 116 00:04:54,792 --> 00:04:57,583 so we were on the edge of our seats to find out 117 00:04:57,792 --> 00:04:59,667 what the camera had actually captured. 118 00:04:59,875 --> 00:05:01,333 ERIK: Let's dive in. 119 00:05:01,542 --> 00:05:03,833 I'm gonna look at it with the enhanced view. 120 00:05:04,875 --> 00:05:07,917 This is the footage from out at the triangle. 121 00:05:08,042 --> 00:05:09,500 Um, as we play this, 122 00:05:09,667 --> 00:05:12,000 you probably see the, uh, the lens flare 123 00:05:12,125 --> 00:05:13,833 that we're used to looking at. 124 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:14,917 But there's some things in here 125 00:05:15,083 --> 00:05:17,042 that I cannot readily dismiss. 126 00:05:17,208 --> 00:05:18,167 -Let's see it, all right? -All right. 127 00:05:18,375 --> 00:05:20,542 Watch what happens here. 128 00:05:22,375 --> 00:05:25,000 -TRAVIS: Wow. -ERIK: We have several objects 129 00:05:25,208 --> 00:05:26,625 moving in unison. 130 00:05:26,792 --> 00:05:28,917 TRAVIS: Look how fast they're moving. 131 00:05:30,792 --> 00:05:32,500 And it looks like it sped up, even. 132 00:05:32,667 --> 00:05:34,958 -Did you see that? -ERIK: Mm-hmm. 133 00:05:35,125 --> 00:05:37,083 TRAVIS: They-- those are moving in a straight line. 134 00:05:37,250 --> 00:05:39,792 -ERIK: And see this guy here? -TRAVIS: Yeah, look at that one. 135 00:05:39,958 --> 00:05:41,667 And it's moving way faster than an airplane 136 00:05:41,875 --> 00:05:43,167 in a straight-- Here's another. Look at this. 137 00:05:43,333 --> 00:05:44,833 ERIK: Yes. 138 00:05:44,958 --> 00:05:45,958 That's not natural. 139 00:05:46,083 --> 00:05:47,458 Yeah. 140 00:05:48,750 --> 00:05:50,083 TRAVIS: Erik was right. 141 00:05:50,250 --> 00:05:52,000 These UAPs were definitely 142 00:05:52,083 --> 00:05:53,250 nothing natural, 143 00:05:53,458 --> 00:05:54,375 and were the most 144 00:05:54,542 --> 00:05:55,375 we've ever captured 145 00:05:55,542 --> 00:05:56,708 in a single setting. 146 00:05:56,875 --> 00:05:58,458 So, what were they? 147 00:05:58,625 --> 00:06:00,500 Where did they come from? 148 00:06:00,667 --> 00:06:02,167 And how might they be connected to 149 00:06:02,375 --> 00:06:04,167 whatever we drilled into 150 00:06:04,375 --> 00:06:06,583 underground between the triangle and the mesa? 151 00:06:07,542 --> 00:06:09,542 -TRAVIS: Wow. -This is cool stuff. 152 00:06:09,708 --> 00:06:11,333 Yeah, so, you know, out of all these observations, 153 00:06:11,542 --> 00:06:14,125 you know, I feel like we've got some-some action items. 154 00:06:14,292 --> 00:06:15,750 Well, I think, as soon as possible, 155 00:06:15,917 --> 00:06:17,667 we need to get that drill rig back out here 156 00:06:17,875 --> 00:06:19,667 and see what's in that-- the bottom of that hole. 157 00:06:19,875 --> 00:06:21,333 ERIK: Yep. 158 00:06:21,500 --> 00:06:22,875 Well, guys, this has been a great discussion. 159 00:06:23,042 --> 00:06:24,875 I... I appreciate getting your minds, obviously, 160 00:06:25,042 --> 00:06:26,708 your eyes and your minds on this problem set. 161 00:06:26,875 --> 00:06:28,708 -BRYANT: Yeah. -TRAVIS: All right. 162 00:06:28,875 --> 00:06:30,125 -THOMAS: Yeah. Eventful day. -TRAVIS: Good stuff, Erik. 163 00:06:30,292 --> 00:06:31,958 ERIK: Yeah. 164 00:06:35,500 --> 00:06:38,042 JAN: Okay, let's do it. 165 00:06:39,167 --> 00:06:40,208 Grab that. 166 00:06:40,417 --> 00:06:41,750 TRAVIS: While Thomas Winterton 167 00:06:41,875 --> 00:06:43,667 was arranging for the drillers to come back 168 00:06:43,750 --> 00:06:46,583 and help us figure out what's underground by the triangle... 169 00:06:46,708 --> 00:06:47,875 We're going to want to go on this side right here, 170 00:06:48,042 --> 00:06:49,833 up this path. 171 00:06:50,042 --> 00:06:51,417 You'll kind of see where we've kind of gone before, 172 00:06:51,542 --> 00:06:53,042 -but... -Okay. 173 00:06:54,375 --> 00:06:55,625 TRAVIS: ...Kaleb Bench was helping 174 00:06:55,792 --> 00:06:57,833 ground-penetrating radar expert Jan Francke 175 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,667 scan the mesa with a new device 176 00:07:00,875 --> 00:07:03,375 where he's previously detected evidence of 177 00:07:03,542 --> 00:07:06,042 something very strange buried deep inside there. 178 00:07:08,208 --> 00:07:09,375 -All right. -So, Jan, 179 00:07:09,542 --> 00:07:10,917 I'm assuming we would just 180 00:07:11,042 --> 00:07:13,583 -want you to go back and forth... -Yeah. 181 00:07:13,750 --> 00:07:16,625 ...as much as we can, and really see how far back 182 00:07:16,792 --> 00:07:19,333 and how deep this anomaly is by chance. 183 00:07:19,542 --> 00:07:21,583 -Let's give it a go, for sure. -Yeah. 184 00:07:21,708 --> 00:07:24,708 TRAVIS: If all the UAPs we've seen in the skies 185 00:07:24,875 --> 00:07:26,417 above Skinwalker Ranch weren't strange enough, 186 00:07:26,583 --> 00:07:28,333 for the last three years, 187 00:07:28,500 --> 00:07:31,125 we've been trying to identify a 400-foot-long, 188 00:07:31,292 --> 00:07:35,333 dome-shaped object that we detected inside the mesa. 189 00:07:35,500 --> 00:07:38,250 During previous drilling operations, 190 00:07:38,375 --> 00:07:40,167 we've been unable to penetrate it, 191 00:07:40,333 --> 00:07:42,375 but we have recovered metal fragments 192 00:07:42,542 --> 00:07:45,000 in the spoils that, believe it or not, 193 00:07:45,125 --> 00:07:47,000 are composed of similar materials 194 00:07:47,125 --> 00:07:48,667 to what NASA uses to protect 195 00:07:48,792 --> 00:07:50,417 the outside of our spacecraft 196 00:07:50,583 --> 00:07:52,958 for re-entry into the atmosphere. 197 00:07:54,042 --> 00:07:56,417 -JAN: Here we go. -So, Jan has come back to 198 00:07:56,583 --> 00:07:58,000 scan the top of the mesa 199 00:07:58,208 --> 00:08:00,542 with a new, specialized GPR unit 200 00:08:00,708 --> 00:08:03,333 that he believes can get better images of this thing 201 00:08:03,542 --> 00:08:06,333 and help us plan for an even more advanced 202 00:08:06,500 --> 00:08:08,375 drilling operation in the coming weeks 203 00:08:08,542 --> 00:08:10,208 to finally figure out 204 00:08:10,375 --> 00:08:12,125 just what the heck is really inside there. 205 00:08:12,292 --> 00:08:14,750 -KALEB: Is it good? -JAN: It's good, everything's working. 206 00:08:14,917 --> 00:08:16,500 KALEB: We'll just kind of go slow. 207 00:08:16,708 --> 00:08:18,708 JAN: Yeah, yeah. I'll let you lead the way. 208 00:08:23,375 --> 00:08:25,167 -ADDY: Hi. -KANDUS: Hey, there. 209 00:08:25,333 --> 00:08:26,333 How's it going? 210 00:08:26,500 --> 00:08:27,500 -TOM: Hi, Addy. -Hello. 211 00:08:27,667 --> 00:08:29,208 TRAVIS: While Jan and Kaleb 212 00:08:29,375 --> 00:08:31,458 conducted the GPR survey on the mesa, 213 00:08:31,667 --> 00:08:34,292 over at Homestead One, 214 00:08:34,458 --> 00:08:36,083 ranch caretakers Kandus Linde and Tom Lewis 215 00:08:36,250 --> 00:08:39,875 met once again with Addy Diaz and her brother Bubba. 216 00:08:40,042 --> 00:08:42,167 They live very close by and wanted to share 217 00:08:42,333 --> 00:08:44,000 more information with us 218 00:08:44,167 --> 00:08:47,500 about cattle mutilations that took place on Skinwalker Ranch 219 00:08:47,667 --> 00:08:49,917 back when the previous owner, Robert Bigelow, 220 00:08:50,083 --> 00:08:52,292 investigated the property with the help of 221 00:08:52,458 --> 00:08:54,792 the federal government more than a decade ago. 222 00:08:54,958 --> 00:08:56,875 -Look at these tooth marks. -Yeah. 223 00:08:57,083 --> 00:08:58,667 It would have to be larger than a wolf. 224 00:08:58,833 --> 00:09:00,792 TRAVIS: We recently found a dead cow 225 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,375 on the property with teeth marks in it 226 00:09:03,542 --> 00:09:05,042 that biologist Ben Woodruff told us 227 00:09:05,208 --> 00:09:08,000 may have actually been caused by a dire wolf, 228 00:09:08,125 --> 00:09:12,000 an animal that went extinct about 10,000 years ago. 229 00:09:12,125 --> 00:09:15,042 Since there have been legends of dire wolves 230 00:09:15,208 --> 00:09:18,167 attacking and mutilating cattle on Skinwalker Ranch in the past, 231 00:09:18,375 --> 00:09:20,250 we really wanted to find out 232 00:09:20,417 --> 00:09:22,333 what Addy and Bubba had to tell us. 233 00:09:22,542 --> 00:09:25,708 So, you basically grew up here, right? 234 00:09:25,875 --> 00:09:27,667 -ADDY: Yeah. -KANDUS: Can you tell us 235 00:09:27,792 --> 00:09:29,542 a little bit more about cattle mutilations 236 00:09:29,708 --> 00:09:31,250 -in the area? -BUBBA: Oh, yeah. 237 00:09:31,375 --> 00:09:33,833 ADDY: Yeah, it was probably around September of 1997, 238 00:09:33,958 --> 00:09:35,417 my grandpa was driving out, you know, 239 00:09:35,542 --> 00:09:38,667 in the field over this way 240 00:09:38,833 --> 00:09:42,167 and he found his cattle on the fence line. 241 00:09:42,333 --> 00:09:44,083 -TOM: Okay. -Hmm. 242 00:09:44,208 --> 00:09:46,708 The cow's, you know, body there had no nose, 243 00:09:46,917 --> 00:09:49,667 no tongue, no eyes, its ears were cut off. 244 00:09:49,875 --> 00:09:52,333 Everything inside of the cow was gone. 245 00:09:52,500 --> 00:09:54,167 There was, like, no blood around it, 246 00:09:54,292 --> 00:09:58,333 and the liver was perfectly placed on a log next to it. 247 00:09:58,542 --> 00:10:00,708 -What? -TOM: Really? 248 00:10:00,875 --> 00:10:02,917 ADDY: But, like, it didn't have no opening 249 00:10:03,042 --> 00:10:05,250 right here, and if it was coyotes, there'd be tracks, 250 00:10:05,375 --> 00:10:06,333 there'd be blood everywhere. 251 00:10:06,542 --> 00:10:07,792 Right. 252 00:10:07,958 --> 00:10:11,125 They had a team come out and look at it. 253 00:10:11,333 --> 00:10:13,667 TOM: Do you know if the people they called in 254 00:10:13,875 --> 00:10:16,083 to look at the cow were part of the Bigelow team 255 00:10:16,292 --> 00:10:17,833 or if it was a vet or... 256 00:10:18,042 --> 00:10:19,375 ADDY: Yeah, it was a vet first, 257 00:10:19,542 --> 00:10:21,000 and then Bigelow's team came. 258 00:10:21,208 --> 00:10:22,500 -TOM: Bigelow's team came. -KANDUS: Uh-huh. 259 00:10:22,667 --> 00:10:24,333 BUBBA: What is that? 260 00:10:25,750 --> 00:10:27,167 ADDY: Oh, yeah. It's over there. Look. 261 00:10:27,375 --> 00:10:29,042 TOM: Oh, that's huge. 262 00:10:30,042 --> 00:10:32,875 BUBBA: Oh, man. Big, giant plane. 263 00:10:33,042 --> 00:10:35,083 I've never seen a plane fly that low. 264 00:10:35,208 --> 00:10:36,458 TOM: Yeah. 265 00:10:36,583 --> 00:10:37,958 -That's like a military... -Oh, man. 266 00:10:38,042 --> 00:10:40,000 -ADDY: Yeah. -BUBBA: That's way low. 267 00:10:40,167 --> 00:10:41,250 TOM: Wow. 268 00:10:45,917 --> 00:10:47,458 TOM: That's like a military... 269 00:10:47,667 --> 00:10:49,042 -KANDUS: Oh, man. -ADDY: Yeah. 270 00:10:49,208 --> 00:10:50,583 BUBBA: That's way low. 271 00:10:50,708 --> 00:10:54,000 Wow, that was a military plane, wasn't it? 272 00:10:54,958 --> 00:10:57,375 TRAVIS: In the past few years, 273 00:10:57,542 --> 00:10:59,833 numerous military helicopters and planes 274 00:11:00,042 --> 00:11:01,500 have flown back and forth 275 00:11:01,708 --> 00:11:03,958 over the ranch during our investigations. 276 00:11:05,417 --> 00:11:06,833 Helicopter, helicopter! 277 00:11:08,208 --> 00:11:10,167 TRAVIS: Like they were trying to conduct surveillance 278 00:11:10,333 --> 00:11:12,167 of what we were doing. 279 00:11:13,542 --> 00:11:17,167 When Tom and Kandus alerted us about the aircraft they saw, 280 00:11:17,333 --> 00:11:18,917 Erik checked the surveillance cameras 281 00:11:19,083 --> 00:11:22,833 and confirmed that it was, indeed, a C-17, 282 00:11:23,042 --> 00:11:26,042 which are used by the United States Air Force. 283 00:11:26,208 --> 00:11:27,833 We could tell because of the shape 284 00:11:27,958 --> 00:11:30,708 of the rear rudder and its cargo tailgate. 285 00:11:30,875 --> 00:11:34,333 So, was this a military plane trying to spy on us 286 00:11:34,542 --> 00:11:35,917 just as we were looking deeper 287 00:11:36,083 --> 00:11:38,417 into what could be inside the mesa? 288 00:11:38,583 --> 00:11:41,667 And if so, for what purpose? 289 00:11:43,583 --> 00:11:46,750 Have you noticed any other military craft, 290 00:11:46,917 --> 00:11:48,625 especially low-flying craft? 291 00:11:48,792 --> 00:11:50,375 Oh, yeah. All the time throughout here in the Basin. 292 00:11:50,500 --> 00:11:51,750 Wow. 293 00:11:51,917 --> 00:11:53,833 BUBBA: You know, like, helicopters 294 00:11:54,042 --> 00:11:55,583 and planes flying really low. 295 00:11:55,708 --> 00:11:56,958 -Yeah. -(laughs) Yeah. 296 00:11:57,125 --> 00:11:58,583 And they'll have a big dome 297 00:11:58,750 --> 00:12:00,833 underneath the plane, like a camera-like thing 298 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:01,708 -or whatever it is. -KANDUS: Oh, yeah. 299 00:12:01,875 --> 00:12:03,542 -Yeah. -BUBBA: One day, 300 00:12:03,708 --> 00:12:05,333 I did see a big white plane that had, 301 00:12:05,542 --> 00:12:08,792 like, a satellite dish thing on the very top of the plane. 302 00:12:08,958 --> 00:12:10,375 -Yeah. -BUBBA: We've seen quite a few of those, actually. 303 00:12:10,542 --> 00:12:12,000 -KANDUS: Like a radar or what? -BUBBA: Like a radar, yeah. 304 00:12:12,208 --> 00:12:13,417 -That's what it sounds like. -KANDUS: Huh. 305 00:12:13,625 --> 00:12:15,167 And then, over here on Highway 40, 306 00:12:15,333 --> 00:12:16,250 we did spot two of those 307 00:12:16,417 --> 00:12:18,000 helicopters with two propellers. 308 00:12:18,208 --> 00:12:19,833 -Okay, yeah. Like a Chinook. -BUBBA: What are they called? 309 00:12:19,958 --> 00:12:21,208 A Chinook, pretty much, yeah. 310 00:12:21,417 --> 00:12:22,917 TOM: Yeah, we saw them fly, 311 00:12:23,042 --> 00:12:24,750 basically, around the ranch. 312 00:12:24,917 --> 00:12:27,125 -And then just take off again. -That's pretty weird. 313 00:12:27,292 --> 00:12:30,875 Yeah. You've spent your childhood here, 314 00:12:31,083 --> 00:12:33,333 grew up in these hills, grew up on these roads. 315 00:12:33,458 --> 00:12:34,625 What was it like? 316 00:12:34,792 --> 00:12:36,833 ADDY: It's definitely not normal. 317 00:12:37,042 --> 00:12:39,500 -Mm-hmm. -ADDY: But, to me, it's the only place I know. 318 00:12:39,667 --> 00:12:40,917 -Yeah. -KANDUS: And were you warned 319 00:12:41,042 --> 00:12:43,750 to stay away from this area? 320 00:12:43,917 --> 00:12:46,167 Um, no, not really. 321 00:12:46,333 --> 00:12:47,833 Until Bigelow came. 322 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:49,292 Mm. 323 00:12:49,458 --> 00:12:51,167 -So, late '90s? -Yeah. 324 00:12:51,375 --> 00:12:52,708 Yeah, so what was it like? Do you remember 325 00:12:52,875 --> 00:12:54,833 back then, when-when Bigelow's team was here, 326 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:56,292 what was going on? 327 00:12:56,500 --> 00:12:57,333 Like, did you see 328 00:12:57,542 --> 00:12:58,667 any crazy stuff happening 329 00:12:58,875 --> 00:13:01,042 when he had his team stationed here? 330 00:13:01,208 --> 00:13:03,333 I'd hear stories, you know, from my grandpa. 331 00:13:03,500 --> 00:13:06,292 And, you know, just the traffic that go up and down the road. 332 00:13:08,250 --> 00:13:10,625 I used to see military Humvees come up and down the road. 333 00:13:10,708 --> 00:13:13,000 They had a cargo thing in the back. 334 00:13:13,208 --> 00:13:14,292 ADDY: Yeah. 335 00:13:14,375 --> 00:13:16,958 So, these Humvees, they had cargo area? 336 00:13:17,125 --> 00:13:18,792 Yeah, they were pulling, like, little trailers 337 00:13:18,917 --> 00:13:21,125 in the back of them, you know, like big spotlights. 338 00:13:21,292 --> 00:13:23,250 You know, like the kind you haul around when you want to 339 00:13:23,375 --> 00:13:25,167 -light up an area. -And they were coming into the ranch? 340 00:13:25,333 --> 00:13:27,208 BUBBA: They were coming in and out. 341 00:13:27,375 --> 00:13:29,542 They would be carrying something on their flatbed, 342 00:13:29,750 --> 00:13:31,000 but it'd be in a cargo container. 343 00:13:31,125 --> 00:13:32,458 I don't know what it would be, 344 00:13:32,667 --> 00:13:34,708 but it would be a military truck, too. 345 00:13:34,875 --> 00:13:37,667 TOM: Robert Bigelow dumped considerable money 346 00:13:37,833 --> 00:13:39,500 into this place researching, 347 00:13:39,708 --> 00:13:41,292 and the problem with Bigelow 348 00:13:41,417 --> 00:13:45,167 is he hasn't released most of the data that he has. 349 00:13:46,333 --> 00:13:48,667 Right now, hearing all these stories, 350 00:13:48,833 --> 00:13:50,750 Addy provided us with some information 351 00:13:50,917 --> 00:13:53,583 about the Bigelow era, which is interesting. 352 00:13:53,750 --> 00:13:55,833 Considering our investigation 353 00:13:56,042 --> 00:13:58,167 around the triangle and the mesa, 354 00:13:58,375 --> 00:13:59,708 I can't help wonder, 355 00:13:59,875 --> 00:14:02,667 maybe the Bigelow team found something. 356 00:14:02,875 --> 00:14:05,458 So, thank you for sharing and, you know, 357 00:14:05,625 --> 00:14:08,000 having the courage to share these experiences 358 00:14:08,208 --> 00:14:10,667 that you've had and your families had with us. 359 00:14:10,875 --> 00:14:13,333 And if there's anybody else that you can think of 360 00:14:13,542 --> 00:14:15,917 that might want to share their experiences with us, 361 00:14:16,083 --> 00:14:17,750 we'd really appreciate it. 362 00:14:17,917 --> 00:14:19,208 -Yeah. All right. (grunts) -All righty, sounds good. 363 00:14:19,417 --> 00:14:20,958 -Thanks so much, Bubba, -Oh, it's good to see you. 364 00:14:21,083 --> 00:14:21,917 -Good to see you, too. -All right, yup, you're welcome. 365 00:14:22,083 --> 00:14:23,833 TOM: We will talk to you soon. 366 00:14:35,667 --> 00:14:36,792 ERIK: Hey, Jan. 367 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:38,500 Hey, Erik. 368 00:14:38,625 --> 00:14:40,208 Well, thanks for jumping on with us. 369 00:14:40,375 --> 00:14:44,167 We are all so anxious to find out what you've discovered 370 00:14:44,333 --> 00:14:47,208 from the latest GPR survey there above the drill site. 371 00:14:47,375 --> 00:14:50,875 TRAVIS: Based on our previous GPR scans, 372 00:14:51,042 --> 00:14:52,833 we believe that there's a massive, 373 00:14:53,042 --> 00:14:55,000 dome-shaped object in the mesa. 374 00:14:55,125 --> 00:14:57,458 And we've also recovered metal fragments 375 00:14:57,583 --> 00:14:59,625 made up of the same materials 376 00:14:59,750 --> 00:15:01,958 that NASA uses to protect spacecraft. 377 00:15:02,042 --> 00:15:06,500 So, we're hoping like hell that Jan Francke's new GPR data 378 00:15:06,667 --> 00:15:09,500 will reveal additional details about this thing 379 00:15:09,667 --> 00:15:11,375 and also help us make a plan 380 00:15:11,542 --> 00:15:12,958 to get inside the mesa 381 00:15:13,125 --> 00:15:15,292 and figure out what in the world it could be. 382 00:15:16,375 --> 00:15:18,167 JAN: If you recall, from last year, 383 00:15:18,333 --> 00:15:20,333 the last time we did the survey, 384 00:15:20,542 --> 00:15:21,708 we did about 300 meters 385 00:15:21,875 --> 00:15:25,958 along the very top of the slope, 386 00:15:26,125 --> 00:15:29,125 and we detected that really strange anomaly. 387 00:15:29,208 --> 00:15:30,625 ERIK: The dome feature. 388 00:15:30,833 --> 00:15:32,292 JAN: Absolutely, yes, exactly. 389 00:15:32,417 --> 00:15:35,000 What I wanted to understand is how far back 390 00:15:35,125 --> 00:15:37,667 into the mesa does that continue? 391 00:15:37,875 --> 00:15:40,000 So, let me share my screen with you, 392 00:15:40,125 --> 00:15:41,833 and I'll show you what we've actually 393 00:15:41,917 --> 00:15:43,417 been able to gather here. 394 00:15:45,167 --> 00:15:49,083 So, guys, these black lines represent where we collected 395 00:15:49,250 --> 00:15:52,500 the GPR data as we scanned back and forth 396 00:15:52,667 --> 00:15:54,625 across the mesa. 397 00:15:54,708 --> 00:15:57,667 So, we did a total of 12 passes, 398 00:15:57,875 --> 00:16:00,417 starting at the edge of the mesa and going backwards. 399 00:16:00,542 --> 00:16:02,333 Now, on the first pass, 400 00:16:02,542 --> 00:16:06,542 I got a hit on my device right here, 401 00:16:06,708 --> 00:16:10,208 and on the GPR screen, this is what it looked like. 402 00:16:10,375 --> 00:16:13,000 It was the exact same area where we detected 403 00:16:13,167 --> 00:16:15,375 the large anomaly last year. 404 00:16:15,542 --> 00:16:19,000 So, on my second pass, a little bit further back, 405 00:16:19,125 --> 00:16:21,917 I got another hit right here, 406 00:16:22,083 --> 00:16:24,833 and it happened to be in line with the previous one. 407 00:16:24,917 --> 00:16:26,208 Again. 408 00:16:26,417 --> 00:16:28,125 JAN: So I kept going backwards. 409 00:16:28,333 --> 00:16:30,500 On my third pass, yet again, 410 00:16:30,667 --> 00:16:33,708 I got a hit that was also in line with the others. 411 00:16:33,875 --> 00:16:35,667 And this kept happening 412 00:16:35,792 --> 00:16:38,625 on the remaining nine passes. 413 00:16:38,750 --> 00:16:41,500 So, in total, I got 12 hits 414 00:16:41,583 --> 00:16:45,917 for the same anomaly as I went further and further back. 415 00:16:46,042 --> 00:16:47,458 -Yes. -So, it is repeatable. 416 00:16:47,625 --> 00:16:49,583 Whoa. 417 00:16:49,750 --> 00:16:51,167 JAN: What this all adds up to 418 00:16:51,292 --> 00:16:53,792 is probably a metallic object 419 00:16:53,917 --> 00:16:56,042 that could be buried inside there, 420 00:16:56,208 --> 00:16:59,167 measuring, well, at least 300 feet long, 421 00:16:59,333 --> 00:17:01,458 and it might be even larger. 422 00:17:01,667 --> 00:17:03,000 Wow. 423 00:17:03,167 --> 00:17:05,042 Erik and I loved that Jan compared 424 00:17:05,208 --> 00:17:07,333 multiple scans that confirmed 425 00:17:07,542 --> 00:17:11,500 we do indeed have a massive object inside the mesa. 426 00:17:11,667 --> 00:17:14,375 We've also been able to speculate about it based on 427 00:17:14,542 --> 00:17:17,875 our drilling operations, so it was very helpful to have 428 00:17:18,042 --> 00:17:20,333 new data to back up our previous findings. 429 00:17:20,500 --> 00:17:22,500 JAN: So, what we did is, 430 00:17:22,625 --> 00:17:24,375 being able to now create 431 00:17:24,542 --> 00:17:28,000 a three-dimensional shape around it... 432 00:17:28,208 --> 00:17:32,292 So, let me show you what that looks like in 3D. 433 00:17:34,042 --> 00:17:37,375 This is our target in the same space, 434 00:17:37,542 --> 00:17:41,000 so we can really see how that lines up. 435 00:17:41,083 --> 00:17:42,875 -Really? -JAN: But, remember, 436 00:17:43,042 --> 00:17:45,250 this is not the shape of the object, 437 00:17:45,417 --> 00:17:48,167 this is just what the radar sees. 438 00:17:50,042 --> 00:17:52,875 The main target is very, very clear. 439 00:17:53,042 --> 00:17:54,833 But as we look at this, 440 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:58,542 there is an absolutely obvious target 441 00:17:58,708 --> 00:18:02,667 that extends across this entire area. 442 00:18:02,750 --> 00:18:05,417 -Wow. -It looks a lot like 443 00:18:05,542 --> 00:18:07,708 you would think a debris field would be. 444 00:18:09,375 --> 00:18:12,250 ERIK: Just think about what circumstances 445 00:18:12,375 --> 00:18:14,000 would produce a debris field 446 00:18:14,167 --> 00:18:16,708 inside of a mesa. 447 00:18:27,167 --> 00:18:29,292 ERIK: Just think about what circumstances 448 00:18:29,458 --> 00:18:33,667 would produce a debris field inside of a mesa. 449 00:18:33,875 --> 00:18:35,500 TRAVIS: Our investigation 450 00:18:35,708 --> 00:18:37,833 has to be objective, and we have to follow 451 00:18:38,042 --> 00:18:39,542 where the scientific data takes us. 452 00:18:39,708 --> 00:18:43,333 Jan Francke's new ground-penetrating radar scans 453 00:18:43,500 --> 00:18:45,417 of the inside of the mesa, 454 00:18:45,583 --> 00:18:48,250 where we've been investigating a massive dome-shaped object 455 00:18:48,417 --> 00:18:50,500 for several years, is showing evidence 456 00:18:50,708 --> 00:18:53,583 of a possible debris field around it. 457 00:18:53,750 --> 00:18:56,208 So, what in the heck could be inside there? 458 00:18:56,333 --> 00:18:59,542 Could it be something man-made? 459 00:18:59,708 --> 00:19:02,333 Perhaps. But why in the middle of nowhere? 460 00:19:02,542 --> 00:19:04,833 I can't see 461 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,958 a natural phenomenon that we could 462 00:19:07,083 --> 00:19:10,792 explain easily causing this sort of anomaly. 463 00:19:12,167 --> 00:19:14,000 KALEB: It reminds me of when we had, 464 00:19:14,208 --> 00:19:15,667 uh, Jake Huffman out 465 00:19:15,833 --> 00:19:17,208 in that same area right there. 466 00:19:17,417 --> 00:19:19,667 Well, that's interesting. 467 00:19:19,875 --> 00:19:22,000 I believe, at some point, 468 00:19:22,208 --> 00:19:24,250 there was blasting done. 469 00:19:24,417 --> 00:19:26,792 Perhaps that was done to hide something. 470 00:19:28,083 --> 00:19:29,417 TRAVIS: A couple years ago, 471 00:19:29,583 --> 00:19:32,042 demolition expert Jake Huffman inspected 472 00:19:32,250 --> 00:19:34,875 all the boulders covering this area of the mesa, 473 00:19:35,083 --> 00:19:36,583 and he gave us his opinion 474 00:19:36,750 --> 00:19:39,625 that a huge explosion may have caused it. 475 00:19:39,750 --> 00:19:42,208 So, now that Jan 476 00:19:42,333 --> 00:19:44,333 has detected new images of what we believe to be 477 00:19:44,500 --> 00:19:46,250 a massive dome-shaped object 478 00:19:46,375 --> 00:19:48,458 and a possible debris field around it, 479 00:19:48,667 --> 00:19:51,125 we have to figure out how to get inside there 480 00:19:51,292 --> 00:19:52,875 and find out what this is. 481 00:19:53,042 --> 00:19:55,875 So, this could be multiple things. 482 00:19:56,042 --> 00:19:58,958 Right now, it's all speculation, but here's what we know. 483 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,667 There's a very large volume of different material makeup 484 00:20:03,875 --> 00:20:05,375 in the mesa right there, 485 00:20:05,542 --> 00:20:08,167 and it could be metallic. 486 00:20:08,375 --> 00:20:11,500 It would really behoove us to drill there 487 00:20:11,708 --> 00:20:15,208 and see if we can find any material in those spots. 488 00:20:15,375 --> 00:20:19,000 You know, I feel like this has become 489 00:20:19,208 --> 00:20:21,000 the center point of our research. 490 00:20:21,208 --> 00:20:22,667 -Yeah. -Yeah. 491 00:20:22,792 --> 00:20:26,125 Well, Jan, thank you for sharing the data. 492 00:20:26,250 --> 00:20:27,833 I know we're gonna be in touch again 493 00:20:27,958 --> 00:20:29,917 and soon on the follow-up. 494 00:20:30,042 --> 00:20:32,583 Well, thanks for having me on, guys. Really appreciate it. 495 00:20:32,708 --> 00:20:34,875 -We'll be in touch. -Thanks, Jan. 496 00:20:35,042 --> 00:20:36,583 JAN: All right, take care. 497 00:20:46,042 --> 00:20:48,833 TRAVIS: All right, Kalista, we're getting close. 498 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:50,417 H-How you feeling about that? 499 00:20:50,542 --> 00:20:52,000 KALISTA: A little nervous. 500 00:20:52,208 --> 00:20:54,458 -TRAVIS: Yeah? -Don't know what to expect. 501 00:20:56,542 --> 00:20:57,833 TRAVIS: While we were getting our ducks in a row 502 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,208 for how to get inside the mesa, 503 00:21:00,375 --> 00:21:03,292 the next day, we were ready to continue drilling 504 00:21:03,458 --> 00:21:05,083 near the triangle to find out 505 00:21:05,208 --> 00:21:08,208 if there really is a metallic tunnel beneath Skinwalker Ranch. 506 00:21:09,458 --> 00:21:11,958 Here you are, at the command center. 507 00:21:12,125 --> 00:21:14,250 -KALISTA: I'm excited to meet them. -Here are the guys 508 00:21:14,417 --> 00:21:15,833 waiting to meet you, look at that. 509 00:21:15,958 --> 00:21:18,292 And to help us collect more scientific data 510 00:21:18,500 --> 00:21:20,167 as we continue our drilling exercise, 511 00:21:20,375 --> 00:21:22,375 I brought my favorite future scientist out 512 00:21:22,542 --> 00:21:24,000 to work with the team-- 513 00:21:24,167 --> 00:21:26,667 my daughter, Kalista Taylor. 514 00:21:26,833 --> 00:21:28,292 I got somebody I want y'all to meet. 515 00:21:28,458 --> 00:21:30,125 -Nice to meet you. -Kalista. 516 00:21:30,333 --> 00:21:31,542 This is my daughter, Kalista. 517 00:21:31,708 --> 00:21:32,917 -Good to meet you, finally. -You, too. 518 00:21:33,042 --> 00:21:34,083 -Nice to meet you. -You, too. 519 00:21:34,250 --> 00:21:35,375 -Hey, how are you? -Good. 520 00:21:35,500 --> 00:21:36,917 KALEB: The new and improved Travis 2.0? 521 00:21:37,125 --> 00:21:38,333 Yeah, Travis 2.0, that makes sense. 522 00:21:38,500 --> 00:21:39,917 Nice to meet you. Heard so much about you. 523 00:21:40,083 --> 00:21:43,333 -So, I see you're carrying something. -Yes. 524 00:21:43,500 --> 00:21:45,167 She's been wanting to build a sensor 525 00:21:45,333 --> 00:21:47,833 that would help us. She put it together, tested it, 526 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,250 -got it working, wrote the code. -Yeah, it's multiple sensors 527 00:21:50,375 --> 00:21:52,833 on two different microcomputers, so... 528 00:21:53,042 --> 00:21:55,500 Yeah, it's got the GPS altitude, the pressure altitude, 529 00:21:55,667 --> 00:21:57,000 and then, you can map the trajectory 530 00:21:57,208 --> 00:21:58,750 by the accelerometer data, 531 00:21:58,875 --> 00:22:01,542 so, many different mapping possibilities. 532 00:22:01,708 --> 00:22:03,167 That's perfect. 533 00:22:03,375 --> 00:22:05,750 KALISTA: I'm a sophomore electrical engineering student. 534 00:22:05,917 --> 00:22:08,792 My dad asked me to build a multiple sensor package 535 00:22:08,875 --> 00:22:10,417 that could detect GPS, 536 00:22:10,583 --> 00:22:12,458 pressure, temperature and humidity data 537 00:22:12,625 --> 00:22:14,333 to help decipher what's going on here. 538 00:22:14,500 --> 00:22:15,583 -Well, let's go test it out. -ERIK: Yeah. 539 00:22:15,750 --> 00:22:17,167 THOMAS: Kaleb and I will meet you out there. 540 00:22:17,375 --> 00:22:18,208 -All right. Sounds good. -Let's get out there. 541 00:22:18,375 --> 00:22:19,500 No time like the present. 542 00:22:19,625 --> 00:22:20,542 KALISTA: I wanted to be able 543 00:22:20,708 --> 00:22:22,167 to contribute something to help 544 00:22:22,333 --> 00:22:24,667 read and decipher through some of those things 545 00:22:24,875 --> 00:22:27,667 by collecting data through different types of sensors. 546 00:22:32,417 --> 00:22:34,375 Oh, yeah. 547 00:22:34,542 --> 00:22:36,083 TRAVIS: While the drillers were getting ready 548 00:22:36,208 --> 00:22:38,208 to find out if there really could be 549 00:22:38,375 --> 00:22:40,542 an underground tunnel near the triangle... 550 00:22:41,583 --> 00:22:43,917 I think that's good. All right, let's load it. 551 00:22:44,042 --> 00:22:47,000 ...we wanted to run an additional experiment to collect 552 00:22:47,167 --> 00:22:52,083 more data in the air where we've recently seen several UAPs and 553 00:22:52,292 --> 00:22:55,125 experienced a bunch of odd GPS errors 554 00:22:55,292 --> 00:22:56,792 with our instrumented drones 555 00:22:56,958 --> 00:22:58,542 between the triangle and the east field. 556 00:22:58,708 --> 00:23:01,667 -Oh, that's gonna work great. Perfect. -Nice. 557 00:23:03,292 --> 00:23:06,333 TRAVIS: So, just a few feet away from the drill site, 558 00:23:06,458 --> 00:23:08,833 we attached Kalista's multi-sensor device 559 00:23:09,042 --> 00:23:10,792 to Jim Royston's lidar drone 560 00:23:10,958 --> 00:23:13,125 so he could fly it toward the east field 561 00:23:13,208 --> 00:23:16,250 and scan for anything strange between these two locations. 562 00:23:16,417 --> 00:23:18,000 Who knows if there could be a connection 563 00:23:18,125 --> 00:23:20,417 between the anomalies that we've detected in the air 564 00:23:20,625 --> 00:23:22,917 as well as underground. 565 00:23:23,083 --> 00:23:25,875 We hoped this experiment would help us find out. 566 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,500 Okay. Here we go. 567 00:23:31,875 --> 00:23:33,625 -KALISTA: Yes! -TRAVIS: There it goes. 568 00:23:33,792 --> 00:23:36,042 -Look at that. -How cool. 569 00:23:36,250 --> 00:23:38,583 -(laughs) You built that. -Yup. 570 00:23:38,708 --> 00:23:40,583 -TRAVIS: Maiden flight of your sensor, Kalista. -Yeah. 571 00:23:40,750 --> 00:23:43,417 -TRAVIS: Ain't that cool? Can't beat that. -Yeah. 572 00:23:43,542 --> 00:23:44,875 ERIK: I'm looking forward 573 00:23:45,083 --> 00:23:46,667 to the scientific deliverables 574 00:23:46,875 --> 00:23:48,667 that come out of flying this payload. 575 00:23:48,792 --> 00:23:52,000 Hopefully, we'll get more insights 576 00:23:52,125 --> 00:23:55,292 about what is happening above the triangle. 577 00:23:55,458 --> 00:23:57,667 So we can see it's on its way. 578 00:23:57,875 --> 00:23:59,333 We're gonna look for that typical error... 579 00:23:59,542 --> 00:24:00,875 TRAVIS: Mm-hmm. 580 00:24:01,042 --> 00:24:02,667 ROYSTON: ...once it gets to the east canyon. 581 00:24:02,875 --> 00:24:04,333 TRAVIS: Right. 582 00:24:04,500 --> 00:24:05,833 It'll be really good to see what your sensor says... 583 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,583 -Yeah. -...compared to the accelerometers 584 00:24:07,708 --> 00:24:09,250 and all the other sensors. 585 00:24:09,458 --> 00:24:11,292 So, whenever we have good GPS, this is green. 586 00:24:11,417 --> 00:24:13,625 See right here? 587 00:24:14,583 --> 00:24:16,875 -It went red. -ROYSTON: So we just got it, 588 00:24:17,042 --> 00:24:18,625 -right where we expected. -Okay. Yeah. 589 00:24:18,708 --> 00:24:20,625 So you guys are seeing it on the screen, right? 590 00:24:20,792 --> 00:24:23,667 -Oh, wow. -SAM: We've lost the connection to the controller. 591 00:24:23,833 --> 00:24:25,625 -KALISTA: So it happens every time? -SAM: Yup. 592 00:24:25,792 --> 00:24:27,667 TRAVIS: Yes, in that same spot every time. 593 00:24:27,875 --> 00:24:29,375 That's so weird. 594 00:24:29,542 --> 00:24:31,250 -It makes no sense, man. -Yeah. 595 00:24:31,375 --> 00:24:35,500 TRAVIS: It was crazy that Jim's lidar drone lost its GPS signal 596 00:24:35,625 --> 00:24:38,000 right as he flew over the east field, because 597 00:24:38,208 --> 00:24:40,708 during other recent experiments between that area 598 00:24:40,875 --> 00:24:43,958 and the triangle, the exact same thing happened. 599 00:24:44,083 --> 00:24:46,375 It's like there's just this void in the sky 600 00:24:46,583 --> 00:24:48,333 where we can't collect data. 601 00:24:48,542 --> 00:24:50,583 So, what could that be? 602 00:24:50,750 --> 00:24:52,250 And how might it be related 603 00:24:52,458 --> 00:24:54,833 to those UAPs we saw a few days ago? 604 00:24:57,750 --> 00:25:00,375 ROYSTON: Here we go, we're back, we're right in that area, 605 00:25:00,542 --> 00:25:01,875 and we're green again. 606 00:25:02,083 --> 00:25:04,000 Yup, there we... there we go again. Yep. 607 00:25:04,167 --> 00:25:05,875 Well, hopefully, your sensor will give us some more 608 00:25:06,083 --> 00:25:07,375 -information about what's happening there. -Yes, yes. 609 00:25:07,542 --> 00:25:09,417 Yes. Perfect. 610 00:25:09,542 --> 00:25:11,833 KALISTA: That would be awesome. 611 00:25:16,958 --> 00:25:18,458 -THOMAS: You're at 35, right? -JEREMY: Uh-huh. 612 00:25:18,625 --> 00:25:20,208 -I think that... -Keep going? 613 00:25:20,375 --> 00:25:21,667 Yeah, I think we go another five feet 614 00:25:21,833 --> 00:25:23,875 -and see if we get out of it. -Okay. 615 00:25:24,042 --> 00:25:27,167 TRAVIS: While Jim Royston started processing the data 616 00:25:27,333 --> 00:25:30,042 from the aerial survey that he and Kalista ran, 617 00:25:30,208 --> 00:25:32,667 the drilling operation continued near the triangle 618 00:25:32,792 --> 00:25:35,167 to look for evidence of a possible underground tunnel. 619 00:25:35,375 --> 00:25:36,625 JONATHAN: Okay. 620 00:25:38,042 --> 00:25:41,042 We're not having much luck with getting any deeper. 621 00:25:41,250 --> 00:25:43,583 THOMAS: It seems like we've hit just a hard surface 622 00:25:43,750 --> 00:25:46,167 -that's not letting it go down any further. -Yeah. 623 00:25:46,375 --> 00:25:48,958 THOMAS: Is this hard surface what the GPR was picking up? 624 00:25:49,125 --> 00:25:53,375 Or could it be a ceiling or some type of surface layer 625 00:25:53,542 --> 00:25:55,333 to a void that lies below? 626 00:25:55,458 --> 00:25:56,625 Either way, I'm eager 627 00:25:56,833 --> 00:25:58,167 to get back to drilling. 628 00:25:58,333 --> 00:25:59,333 JEREMY: We got to get that sample. 629 00:25:59,542 --> 00:26:00,833 JONATHAN: Okay. 630 00:26:01,042 --> 00:26:03,000 (whirring) 631 00:26:05,375 --> 00:26:07,125 JONATHAN: It won't let me pull up. 632 00:26:07,292 --> 00:26:09,000 MASON: That's not good. 633 00:26:09,125 --> 00:26:11,792 JONATHAN: How are we going to get that out of there? 634 00:26:13,500 --> 00:26:14,833 JEREMY: If it's okay, I'd like 635 00:26:15,042 --> 00:26:17,333 to just see if our center rod is wedged in there. 636 00:26:17,500 --> 00:26:18,708 Yeah, you do what you got to do. 637 00:26:18,875 --> 00:26:21,667 If there is, we can get that out of there. 638 00:26:25,833 --> 00:26:27,208 JONATHAN: Feels free. 639 00:26:28,292 --> 00:26:29,792 Coming up. 640 00:26:33,375 --> 00:26:34,833 JEREMY: It stayed down there. 641 00:26:36,500 --> 00:26:38,667 THOMAS: It stayed down? 642 00:26:38,875 --> 00:26:40,875 Yup. 643 00:26:41,875 --> 00:26:44,167 THOMAS: Unfortunately, the drill rod is stuck 644 00:26:44,333 --> 00:26:47,333 down in this hole, and we can't get it back up. 645 00:26:47,542 --> 00:26:49,000 It's going to make it impossible 646 00:26:49,167 --> 00:26:51,458 for us to drill any deeper in this same hole. 647 00:26:51,667 --> 00:26:53,292 These guys have drilled thousands of holes, 648 00:26:53,417 --> 00:26:55,000 but we're here on Skinwalker Ranch, 649 00:26:55,125 --> 00:26:56,500 and just trying to get a single hole 650 00:26:56,667 --> 00:26:58,792 seems to be a herculean task. 651 00:26:59,792 --> 00:27:01,000 Hey, guys. You got our copy? 652 00:27:01,208 --> 00:27:02,333 ERIK: Yeah, Thomas. 653 00:27:02,542 --> 00:27:03,792 Go ahead. 654 00:27:03,917 --> 00:27:05,750 THOMAS: So, uh, 655 00:27:05,917 --> 00:27:08,250 we cannot go down any further, and that center rod 656 00:27:08,417 --> 00:27:10,833 that goes down through the drill casing 657 00:27:11,042 --> 00:27:15,000 and takes the core sample has fallen down the hole. 658 00:27:17,208 --> 00:27:18,875 So, at this point, we're going to have 659 00:27:19,042 --> 00:27:21,042 to leave that center rod down in there 660 00:27:21,208 --> 00:27:23,583 and then, figure out a way to fish it out. 661 00:27:23,792 --> 00:27:25,042 Understood, Thomas. 662 00:27:25,208 --> 00:27:26,500 Thanks for that update. 663 00:27:26,667 --> 00:27:27,917 Um, well, I got a much simpler idea 664 00:27:28,042 --> 00:27:30,333 if you guys are on board with it. 665 00:27:30,542 --> 00:27:32,708 -Go ahead. -Let's move to the center 666 00:27:32,875 --> 00:27:34,583 of the triangle and try drilling there. 667 00:27:34,708 --> 00:27:37,583 Definitely. I'd love to get out of this hole. 668 00:27:37,708 --> 00:27:39,000 Definitely. Uh, drillers said 669 00:27:39,167 --> 00:27:41,042 they would love to get out of this hole. 670 00:27:41,208 --> 00:27:44,125 So, we can just move it over a little bit and do it again. 671 00:27:44,250 --> 00:27:46,333 Okay, understood. Thanks for the update. 672 00:27:46,542 --> 00:27:48,250 I would 673 00:27:48,417 --> 00:27:50,333 normally expect a drilling rig to have no difficulty drilling 674 00:27:50,458 --> 00:27:53,500 into the kind of soil that we at least think we have here. 675 00:27:53,625 --> 00:27:56,042 So, clearly, this is kind of frustrating. 676 00:27:56,208 --> 00:27:58,792 The next step is to move to another location. 677 00:27:58,958 --> 00:28:01,250 Okay. Coming up. Watch yourself. 678 00:28:01,375 --> 00:28:04,000 ERIK: In the past, we've seen things that are suggestive 679 00:28:04,208 --> 00:28:07,500 of tunnels or some other structure beneath the triangle, 680 00:28:07,667 --> 00:28:09,958 so I want us to continue drilling 681 00:28:10,125 --> 00:28:12,125 at the center of the triangle. There's always 682 00:28:12,292 --> 00:28:14,958 the possibility that we'll find something unexpected. 683 00:28:15,125 --> 00:28:18,042 MASON: Keep going a little bit, a little bit. 684 00:28:18,208 --> 00:28:21,333 That's perfect, then, looks great. 685 00:28:29,333 --> 00:28:30,792 MASON: Start spinning her. 686 00:28:31,792 --> 00:28:33,542 JONATHAN: Spinning. 687 00:28:33,708 --> 00:28:34,875 TRAVIS: Given all the phenomena that 688 00:28:35,083 --> 00:28:36,333 we've experienced here, 689 00:28:36,500 --> 00:28:37,667 who knows what we could find? 690 00:28:37,875 --> 00:28:40,042 Hopefully, the entrance to a tunnel. 691 00:28:40,208 --> 00:28:42,125 Let's launch this thing. 692 00:28:42,250 --> 00:28:44,083 We decided to launch some rockets to see 693 00:28:44,250 --> 00:28:46,167 if we could stimulate anything strange to happen. 694 00:28:46,333 --> 00:28:47,667 At the same time, 695 00:28:47,875 --> 00:28:50,000 Erik got set up in the command center 696 00:28:50,125 --> 00:28:52,000 to keep a watch on the spectrum analyzer, 697 00:28:52,208 --> 00:28:55,083 signal detectors and the surveillance cameras. 698 00:28:56,958 --> 00:28:58,625 BRYANT: Hey, guys? 699 00:28:58,750 --> 00:29:00,917 THOMAS: Yeah, go ahead. 700 00:29:01,042 --> 00:29:02,750 BRYANT: We're gonna go ahead and launch a rocket, 701 00:29:02,875 --> 00:29:04,958 so just be advised. 702 00:29:05,125 --> 00:29:06,542 Copy that. 703 00:29:06,708 --> 00:29:09,042 THOMAS: All right, we'll, uh, watch for it. 704 00:29:09,250 --> 00:29:11,125 TRAVIS: Go ahead and go hot with that thing, Kaleb! 705 00:29:12,292 --> 00:29:14,083 (high-pitched tone) 706 00:29:14,292 --> 00:29:16,250 KALEB: Five, four, 707 00:29:16,417 --> 00:29:19,083 three, two, one. 708 00:29:20,375 --> 00:29:22,750 TRAVIS: Holy crap, look at that thing go. 709 00:29:22,958 --> 00:29:25,333 THOMAS: Yup, going north. 710 00:29:25,542 --> 00:29:28,000 -(high-pitched tone) -TRAVIS: Hold up, hold up. Wait. 711 00:29:28,167 --> 00:29:30,792 What is that? 712 00:29:30,958 --> 00:29:32,833 Straight up, it's right there. 713 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,292 BRYANT: It's right here. It's right above our heads. 714 00:29:35,375 --> 00:29:36,958 -TRAVIS: Right there! -KALEB: Right there, right there. 715 00:29:37,125 --> 00:29:38,458 -Right there, right there. -TRAVIS: That is flashing, 716 00:29:38,667 --> 00:29:40,167 -whatever that is. -BRYANT: Oh. 717 00:29:40,375 --> 00:29:41,833 -Oh, right over there. -TRAVIS: I see it, I see it! 718 00:29:41,958 --> 00:29:43,750 BRYANT: Is it an airplane? 719 00:29:44,792 --> 00:29:46,792 KALEB: That's not a plane. 720 00:29:48,208 --> 00:29:51,208 TRAVIS: I don't know what that flash up in the sky was, 721 00:29:51,375 --> 00:29:54,000 but it definitely was nothing like an aircraft or a satellite 722 00:29:54,208 --> 00:29:56,292 or anything that made any sense. 723 00:29:56,458 --> 00:30:01,333 It was pulsing bright and then fading out over and over. 724 00:30:01,458 --> 00:30:03,458 Disappearing and reappearing in the same spot 725 00:30:03,625 --> 00:30:05,417 in the southwestern sky. 726 00:30:07,042 --> 00:30:09,167 TRAVIS: Give me a walkie, give me a walkie! Somebody! 727 00:30:09,292 --> 00:30:11,833 Walkie, walkie, walkie, walkie, walkie, walkie. 728 00:30:13,958 --> 00:30:16,667 Hey, Erik, are you anywhere to hear a walkie?! 729 00:30:16,792 --> 00:30:18,125 It's not flashing anymore. 730 00:30:18,292 --> 00:30:20,292 Uh, I still see it. It's real faint. 731 00:30:22,292 --> 00:30:24,875 TRAVIS: We have a flash in the sky. 732 00:30:25,042 --> 00:30:27,083 It's, uh, straight up from the drill site, 733 00:30:27,292 --> 00:30:29,000 a little bit south, a little bit west. 734 00:30:33,458 --> 00:30:35,083 -Uh... -It got real faint. 735 00:30:35,292 --> 00:30:37,792 I think there's a little bit of cloud between us and it now. 736 00:30:37,958 --> 00:30:38,792 ERIK: Copy that, Travis. 737 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,458 I'm watching. 738 00:30:42,583 --> 00:30:44,167 Yeah, that was a definite flash. 739 00:30:44,292 --> 00:30:46,375 And it was right there, and it was flashing... 740 00:30:46,500 --> 00:30:48,208 -bright, at us. -Yup. 741 00:30:48,333 --> 00:30:50,333 That wasn't something that was just a flare. 742 00:30:50,500 --> 00:30:51,875 No. 743 00:30:53,375 --> 00:30:56,167 Well, should we launch another rocket and see if it comes back? 744 00:30:56,292 --> 00:30:58,667 -Damn right we should. -Okay, let's do it. 745 00:30:58,875 --> 00:31:00,458 TRAVIS: After that flash, 746 00:31:00,625 --> 00:31:02,125 I couldn't wait to launch another rocket, 747 00:31:02,250 --> 00:31:04,125 but also wanted to check in with the drillers 748 00:31:04,292 --> 00:31:06,833 to see what they were finding underground. 749 00:31:06,917 --> 00:31:10,583 How deep are they now, Thomas? 750 00:31:10,750 --> 00:31:13,667 We're at 35, but we're at bedrock, so... 751 00:31:13,792 --> 00:31:16,167 -Oh, really? -Yeah, we're-we're at bedrock. 752 00:31:16,333 --> 00:31:18,292 So what I told 'em to do is let's get a core, 753 00:31:18,458 --> 00:31:20,625 make sure that's what we're really into. 754 00:31:20,750 --> 00:31:22,542 And, uh, if it is bedrock... 755 00:31:22,708 --> 00:31:24,167 -Then you can't do nothing else, right? -We've gone 756 00:31:24,333 --> 00:31:26,000 -as far as we can go, so... -All right. 757 00:31:26,125 --> 00:31:27,000 That's interesting. You didn't hit anything like that 758 00:31:27,167 --> 00:31:28,417 over there, did you? 759 00:31:28,583 --> 00:31:29,667 JEREMY: No, no. We hit 760 00:31:29,875 --> 00:31:31,250 hard stuff, but it was gravel. 761 00:31:31,375 --> 00:31:32,708 This is smooth, and... 762 00:31:32,917 --> 00:31:34,167 we're getting through it but very, very slow. 763 00:31:34,333 --> 00:31:35,250 TRAVIS: You are cutting through it? 764 00:31:35,417 --> 00:31:36,833 Mm-hmm. So far. 765 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:37,958 Well, I'd like to see a sample of it, 766 00:31:38,125 --> 00:31:40,333 see what it is. Who knows? 767 00:31:40,500 --> 00:31:42,167 -Who knows? -Yeah. 768 00:31:42,333 --> 00:31:43,833 -Few more minutes, we'll have one, so... -All right. 769 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,042 Let me know. 770 00:31:45,208 --> 00:31:46,833 Got it. 771 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,083 (whirring, rattling) 772 00:31:51,625 --> 00:31:52,542 Hey, did you see that? 773 00:31:52,708 --> 00:31:53,542 KALEB: Yeah. 774 00:31:53,708 --> 00:31:55,500 TRAVIS: You see the UFO? 775 00:31:55,667 --> 00:31:56,875 Holy crap. 776 00:31:58,375 --> 00:31:59,542 Look at that thing. 777 00:31:59,667 --> 00:32:00,667 ERIK: It looked just like 778 00:32:00,792 --> 00:32:02,542 a large, circular object. 779 00:32:03,625 --> 00:32:05,542 What is going on? 780 00:32:09,792 --> 00:32:11,167 BRYANT: What the hell is up there? 781 00:32:12,208 --> 00:32:13,167 KALEB: Erik, something just went 782 00:32:13,333 --> 00:32:14,625 behind the mesa to the north. 783 00:32:14,750 --> 00:32:16,042 I don't know if you can see it. 784 00:32:16,208 --> 00:32:17,583 ERIK: 'Kay, I'll let you know 785 00:32:17,750 --> 00:32:19,500 if we've got anything on the ADS-B. 786 00:32:19,708 --> 00:32:22,833 10-4. It was-- it was moving... 787 00:32:23,042 --> 00:32:25,042 west to east. 788 00:32:25,208 --> 00:32:27,000 BRYANT: We were doing this core drilling exercise. 789 00:32:27,208 --> 00:32:29,042 We were launching some rockets. 790 00:32:29,208 --> 00:32:30,458 And then, all of a sudden, 791 00:32:30,625 --> 00:32:32,875 off to the south, we saw a flash in the sky 792 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,750 that persisted for several minutes. 793 00:32:34,875 --> 00:32:38,000 And then we saw a UAP in the sky. 794 00:32:38,208 --> 00:32:40,500 I don't know what's going on, but it's blowing my mind. 795 00:32:40,667 --> 00:32:43,542 ERIK: I do not have any aircraft in the airspace, 796 00:32:43,708 --> 00:32:46,208 uh, to the north of the mesa moving west to east. 797 00:32:48,500 --> 00:32:50,000 THOMAS: We don't have visibility now, but I did see something. 798 00:32:50,167 --> 00:32:52,333 Well, I'm not seeing it anymore. 799 00:32:52,500 --> 00:32:54,958 We do have the core sample from-from down there 800 00:32:55,125 --> 00:32:56,667 -where it's hard. -What does it look like? 801 00:32:56,875 --> 00:32:58,208 Well, we-we actually just got it out. 802 00:32:58,375 --> 00:33:00,667 We're just gonna break it open right now. 803 00:33:00,833 --> 00:33:03,625 Let's go look and see what, uh, they pulled out of the drill 804 00:33:03,833 --> 00:33:06,500 on this last, uh, core sample. 805 00:33:06,708 --> 00:33:08,458 THOMAS: Let's get the ends off. 806 00:33:12,125 --> 00:33:13,333 All right, well, this is 807 00:33:13,542 --> 00:33:15,167 the sample off of the... 808 00:33:15,375 --> 00:33:17,083 What would this be, about 36 feet? 809 00:33:17,250 --> 00:33:19,583 Yeah, 35 to 36 and a half. 810 00:33:19,750 --> 00:33:21,833 TRAVIS: This is where you said you were hitting something hard? 811 00:33:22,042 --> 00:33:23,292 -Yeah. -THOMAS: You guys pounded 812 00:33:23,458 --> 00:33:25,000 the crap out of this to get it to go down. 813 00:33:25,208 --> 00:33:26,583 Yeah. Yeah, we hit it 814 00:33:26,708 --> 00:33:28,375 150 times, nearly. 815 00:33:29,667 --> 00:33:31,625 ♪ ♪ 816 00:33:36,833 --> 00:33:38,208 -It's empty. -THOMAS: Uh, what? 817 00:33:39,292 --> 00:33:40,458 TRAVIS: Why is it empty? 818 00:33:41,667 --> 00:33:42,708 THOMAS: What was so hard 819 00:33:42,917 --> 00:33:44,500 that it was taking so many hits 820 00:33:44,708 --> 00:33:46,125 to get it to go down? 821 00:33:46,208 --> 00:33:48,917 To my shock, the whole bottom part of it is... 822 00:33:49,042 --> 00:33:50,500 is empty. 823 00:33:50,667 --> 00:33:53,500 This is not what any of us expected. 824 00:33:53,708 --> 00:33:54,667 What is that? 825 00:33:54,833 --> 00:33:57,417 It's clay-ish, whatever that is. 826 00:33:58,292 --> 00:34:01,292 It just broke it up enough that it just fell right back out 827 00:34:01,458 --> 00:34:03,500 or didn't go up in the sample. 828 00:34:03,667 --> 00:34:05,875 THOMAS: Picture putting it on a sandstone rock 829 00:34:06,042 --> 00:34:07,250 -and hitting it. -TRAVIS: Mm-hmm. 830 00:34:07,417 --> 00:34:09,167 Rather than it making a perfect core 831 00:34:09,333 --> 00:34:11,250 that went up there that just shattered the rock... 832 00:34:11,417 --> 00:34:13,792 -Turned into gravel. -Turned into gravel when they pulled it up. 833 00:34:13,958 --> 00:34:16,083 -Interesting. -So what we have now 834 00:34:16,250 --> 00:34:18,417 is more questions than answers. 835 00:34:18,583 --> 00:34:19,583 Right. 836 00:34:20,875 --> 00:34:23,333 TRAVIS: This core should have been full of something, 837 00:34:23,542 --> 00:34:26,333 since they broke through a really hard surface. 838 00:34:26,500 --> 00:34:30,000 We've now drilled two holes where this possible tunnel is 839 00:34:30,167 --> 00:34:31,667 in the area of the triangle. 840 00:34:31,875 --> 00:34:35,000 But the only thing we've come up with is more questions. 841 00:34:35,208 --> 00:34:38,125 We'd have to drill 47 holes over there 842 00:34:38,292 --> 00:34:41,042 to really kind of make a profile of what's there. 843 00:34:41,208 --> 00:34:42,750 We got to think this through a little bit better. 844 00:34:42,875 --> 00:34:44,625 I think we go ahead and pull up. 845 00:34:44,708 --> 00:34:45,875 -They can't go any further with this. -TRAVIS: Yeah, yeah. 846 00:34:46,042 --> 00:34:47,208 Great idea. Let's do it. 847 00:34:47,375 --> 00:34:48,667 And Erik's probably gonna hear... 848 00:34:48,833 --> 00:34:50,333 hear about this, too, so... 849 00:34:50,500 --> 00:34:52,042 Well, guys, I appreciate it. 850 00:34:52,208 --> 00:34:53,500 -Thank y'all. -(chuckling) -(chuckles) Yeah. 851 00:34:53,583 --> 00:34:54,500 Our pleasure. 852 00:34:54,708 --> 00:34:56,333 All right. 853 00:34:56,458 --> 00:34:58,333 ♪ ♪ 854 00:35:04,458 --> 00:35:05,500 TRAVIS: Hey, fellas. 855 00:35:05,667 --> 00:35:06,958 BRYANT: Hello. 856 00:35:07,125 --> 00:35:08,667 ERIK: Got some data collected 857 00:35:08,875 --> 00:35:09,708 during the core drilling exercise 858 00:35:09,875 --> 00:35:11,000 out there at the triangle. 859 00:35:11,083 --> 00:35:12,417 TRAVIS: The next morning, 860 00:35:12,625 --> 00:35:14,833 we were really excited that Erik and Jim Royston 861 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,292 had processed our data 862 00:35:16,500 --> 00:35:18,333 and already reviewed the surveillance footage. 863 00:35:18,542 --> 00:35:21,125 Of course, I was especially interested 864 00:35:21,292 --> 00:35:23,000 to find out what Kalista's sensor 865 00:35:23,167 --> 00:35:24,833 might have actually detected. 866 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,458 You flew all the way 867 00:35:27,583 --> 00:35:30,292 to the east field and back with the drone. 868 00:35:30,458 --> 00:35:32,125 -Multiple times. Yeah. -Multiple times 869 00:35:32,292 --> 00:35:33,667 with the-- Kalista's sensor. 870 00:35:33,792 --> 00:35:35,167 I actually have imported that 871 00:35:35,333 --> 00:35:36,667 into the three-dimensional framework, 872 00:35:36,792 --> 00:35:38,167 and we can look at that. 873 00:35:38,333 --> 00:35:39,333 If you guys are ready to look at some data, 874 00:35:39,417 --> 00:35:40,625 I'd love to get it on the screen. 875 00:35:42,417 --> 00:35:46,208 So, what you're seeing is the GPS position 876 00:35:46,333 --> 00:35:49,250 as data-logged by Kalista's instrument. 877 00:35:49,417 --> 00:35:50,833 And I'd like to know 878 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,083 whether anything that you see here 879 00:35:53,250 --> 00:35:55,958 -jumps out right away. -Boy, jump-jumps out at me. -ROYSTON: Right away. 880 00:35:56,083 --> 00:35:58,500 -(chuckles) You go ahead. -Yeah. No, you flew the drone. You say it. 881 00:35:58,708 --> 00:36:00,000 The start point, 882 00:36:00,125 --> 00:36:01,500 which is at the triangle. 883 00:36:01,667 --> 00:36:03,667 -ERIK: Let's zoom in on that. -Yeah. 884 00:36:04,750 --> 00:36:06,458 That's off. 885 00:36:06,625 --> 00:36:08,167 -For sure. -ERIK: That's exactly what jumped out at me. 886 00:36:08,375 --> 00:36:10,542 You know, Jim, I know you did not fly it this way. 887 00:36:10,708 --> 00:36:12,167 -No. No. -TRAVIS: That looks like it's, you know, 888 00:36:12,333 --> 00:36:13,708 half the height 889 00:36:13,875 --> 00:36:15,333 -or even less. -Mm-hmm. 890 00:36:15,542 --> 00:36:18,167 TRAVIS: And, you know, what's interesting to me, 891 00:36:18,333 --> 00:36:19,417 if you look right here, 892 00:36:19,583 --> 00:36:22,542 the data appears to jump down. 893 00:36:24,375 --> 00:36:25,833 Now, where is that? 894 00:36:26,042 --> 00:36:28,125 Is that over the east canyon? 895 00:36:28,250 --> 00:36:30,750 It's where we've been seeing, 896 00:36:30,917 --> 00:36:32,667 time and time again, 897 00:36:32,875 --> 00:36:34,708 those anomalies. 898 00:36:34,875 --> 00:36:38,000 TRAVIS: Just like the other recent drone experiments, 899 00:36:38,083 --> 00:36:40,458 the GPS data on Jim's lidar drone 900 00:36:40,625 --> 00:36:42,667 did not match the actual flight path 901 00:36:42,833 --> 00:36:44,292 we all saw it make. 902 00:36:44,500 --> 00:36:47,333 And then Kalista's sensor data showed 903 00:36:47,542 --> 00:36:50,417 some kind of interference near the east field, 904 00:36:50,542 --> 00:36:53,167 where we've seen UAPs fly through the mesa 905 00:36:53,375 --> 00:36:55,417 and then head towards the triangle. 906 00:36:55,583 --> 00:37:00,750 ERIK: This is exactly where we've seen dropouts in the data before. 907 00:37:00,875 --> 00:37:02,667 -Absolutely. -TRAVIS: And this is a different sensor 908 00:37:02,875 --> 00:37:04,042 than the ones we've used before. 909 00:37:04,208 --> 00:37:06,000 So, again, we're seeing 910 00:37:06,167 --> 00:37:07,708 the same anomaly in the same location. 911 00:37:09,042 --> 00:37:10,167 We're at a point now 912 00:37:10,375 --> 00:37:12,458 where what we can say is, 913 00:37:12,625 --> 00:37:16,208 we know there is some sort of anomalous phenomena here. 914 00:37:17,250 --> 00:37:19,750 Now, following on the timeline, 915 00:37:19,875 --> 00:37:21,542 the collection of this data, 916 00:37:21,708 --> 00:37:24,917 we also have a video record that I want to share with you guys, 917 00:37:25,042 --> 00:37:26,875 uh, taken the-- taken the night. 918 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,083 TRAVIS: So that's after we moved 919 00:37:28,250 --> 00:37:29,500 -from this hole... -Yes. 920 00:37:29,708 --> 00:37:31,333 ...to the one that was closer to the triangle. 921 00:37:31,542 --> 00:37:32,833 Right. Still in the same general vicinity, 922 00:37:33,042 --> 00:37:34,583 but, yeah, there at the triangle. 923 00:37:34,708 --> 00:37:36,708 And I think you're gonna find these clips interesting. 924 00:37:37,958 --> 00:37:39,458 'Kay, this is a flash 925 00:37:39,542 --> 00:37:41,250 -that occurs in the sky. -BRYANT: Oh. Yeah. 926 00:37:41,417 --> 00:37:42,250 ERIK: You'll-you'll remember this. 927 00:37:42,375 --> 00:37:44,000 Uh, we have 928 00:37:44,125 --> 00:37:46,375 the actual video record of it here. 929 00:37:50,167 --> 00:37:51,458 TRAVIS: Wow! Look at that. 930 00:37:51,625 --> 00:37:53,250 BRYANT: Oh. 931 00:38:00,667 --> 00:38:02,500 TRAVIS: Wow! Look at that. 932 00:38:02,708 --> 00:38:05,083 -And, you know, if you zoom in on it, Erik... -Okay. 933 00:38:05,250 --> 00:38:07,458 I think we can dive into it 934 00:38:07,625 --> 00:38:09,000 and take a frame-by-frame approach 935 00:38:09,167 --> 00:38:11,375 to-to really see what's happening. 936 00:38:12,375 --> 00:38:14,042 -Yeah, there it is. -That's it right there. 937 00:38:14,208 --> 00:38:15,375 Look at that. 938 00:38:15,542 --> 00:38:18,292 That is very spherical. 939 00:38:18,458 --> 00:38:20,500 -ERIK: Well-defined. -Well-defined. 940 00:38:20,583 --> 00:38:23,500 The flashing UAP that appeared 941 00:38:23,667 --> 00:38:25,667 while we were drilling at the triangle last night 942 00:38:25,875 --> 00:38:27,667 was one of the most incredible phenomena 943 00:38:27,875 --> 00:38:30,375 we've ever documented on Skinwalker Ranch. 944 00:38:30,542 --> 00:38:33,208 But what could it have been and where did it come from? 945 00:38:33,333 --> 00:38:34,583 And then the next frame. 946 00:38:34,792 --> 00:38:37,000 TRAVIS: Oh, there-- Still, it's there. 947 00:38:37,167 --> 00:38:38,167 It's fading. 948 00:38:38,333 --> 00:38:40,083 And what's really interesting is 949 00:38:40,250 --> 00:38:41,833 that it's still very bright in the middle. 950 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:42,917 ERIK: Yes. 951 00:38:43,042 --> 00:38:45,167 Now, I know, Erik, 952 00:38:45,292 --> 00:38:47,292 that we saw this for several minutes. 953 00:38:47,417 --> 00:38:49,167 The video you got, is there multiple? 954 00:38:49,333 --> 00:38:52,167 -We do have multiple instances of the flash. -(clears throat) 955 00:38:52,333 --> 00:38:54,625 -So here's the next one. -Okay. 956 00:38:54,750 --> 00:38:56,625 ERIK: And... 957 00:38:56,792 --> 00:38:57,667 it's instantly on, 958 00:38:57,875 --> 00:38:59,125 and then it fades off. So that... 959 00:38:59,333 --> 00:39:00,917 That one didn't look as bright. 960 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,500 TRAVIS: That didn't look near as bright that time. 961 00:39:05,625 --> 00:39:07,333 One of the things that comes to mind, of course, 962 00:39:07,542 --> 00:39:09,167 every time we see flashes like this is 963 00:39:09,292 --> 00:39:12,167 -what we saw in Orion. -Yeah. 964 00:39:12,375 --> 00:39:13,917 -It was two years ago, right? -Yeah. 965 00:39:14,083 --> 00:39:15,125 Okay. 966 00:39:15,292 --> 00:39:17,125 -There. There. Right. -Oh! 967 00:39:17,250 --> 00:39:19,583 -What was that? -Okay, that's what I'm trying to figure out. 968 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,833 TRAVIS: That's the brightest thing in the sky. 969 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,333 ERIK: So here it is. 970 00:39:28,375 --> 00:39:29,625 It did have certain things in common with it. 971 00:39:29,792 --> 00:39:31,417 TRAVIS: It looked just like it, 972 00:39:31,583 --> 00:39:33,750 and, uh, it looked like the same color. 973 00:39:33,917 --> 00:39:35,500 -ERIK: Okay. -Weird. 974 00:39:35,625 --> 00:39:37,833 And so what in the world is doing that and to what end? 975 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,708 And why are we only seeing it here at the ranch? 976 00:39:42,917 --> 00:39:45,833 Not that anything on this ranch makes sense anyway, 977 00:39:46,042 --> 00:39:48,333 but why do we keep experiencing stuff like this? 978 00:39:48,458 --> 00:39:50,417 We launch rockets above the triangle 979 00:39:50,542 --> 00:39:53,208 and we see GPS data show up underground 980 00:39:53,375 --> 00:39:55,458 where a possible tunnel has been detected. 981 00:39:55,625 --> 00:39:57,583 Then we drill for a tunnel 982 00:39:57,792 --> 00:40:00,458 and we see multiple UAPs in the sky. 983 00:40:00,583 --> 00:40:02,458 It's like the old Masonic adage, 984 00:40:02,667 --> 00:40:04,583 "as above, so below." 985 00:40:04,750 --> 00:40:06,375 There has to be a connection, 986 00:40:06,542 --> 00:40:08,667 and we have to find out what it is. 987 00:40:08,833 --> 00:40:11,000 Well, you know, we need to put our heads together 988 00:40:11,125 --> 00:40:12,333 on how to follow up on this. 989 00:40:12,542 --> 00:40:14,292 Jim, I appreciate the data review. 990 00:40:14,500 --> 00:40:15,667 Fascinating material. 991 00:40:15,833 --> 00:40:16,958 -Yeah. -ERIK: Like you to tell Kalista 992 00:40:17,125 --> 00:40:18,208 thanks for the data. 993 00:40:18,417 --> 00:40:19,333 -Thank you. -TRAVIS: All right. 994 00:40:19,542 --> 00:40:20,792 ROYSTON: All right, guys. 995 00:40:23,500 --> 00:40:26,958 ERIK: So our attention is being drawn again and again to the triangle, 996 00:40:27,125 --> 00:40:29,292 both to the airspace above 997 00:40:29,458 --> 00:40:32,708 and to what may lie in the subsurface. 998 00:40:32,875 --> 00:40:36,167 I'm convinced that, as we continue this research, 999 00:40:36,375 --> 00:40:38,000 we're also going to... 1000 00:40:38,167 --> 00:40:39,875 broaden and deepen 1001 00:40:40,042 --> 00:40:42,292 the kinds of things that we're doing here 1002 00:40:42,458 --> 00:40:44,667 to get to the answers. 1003 00:40:45,708 --> 00:40:48,542 TRAVIS: Thomas Winterton told me on my first day here 1004 00:40:48,750 --> 00:40:51,917 that Skinwalker Ranch reacts to certain people. 1005 00:40:52,042 --> 00:40:55,500 Well, it dang sure seems to react to us. 1006 00:40:55,708 --> 00:40:58,500 So we're gonna keep poking it with hard science 1007 00:40:58,667 --> 00:41:01,333 until it finally reveals its long-held secrets. 1008 00:41:01,542 --> 00:41:04,333 BRANDON: We have observed acute medical episodes 1009 00:41:04,542 --> 00:41:07,208 occurring simultaneously with drilling activity. 1010 00:41:07,375 --> 00:41:08,917 The concept 1011 00:41:09,083 --> 00:41:12,208 that digging brings with it 1012 00:41:12,375 --> 00:41:14,583 other disruption and other danger... 1013 00:41:15,542 --> 00:41:16,792 ...is a reality. 1014 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,458 The data proves it, 1015 00:41:18,583 --> 00:41:20,500 and the team is more motivated than ever 1016 00:41:20,667 --> 00:41:22,333 to get the answers. 1017 00:41:22,417 --> 00:41:25,333 In some ways, we have accomplished so much. 1018 00:41:25,542 --> 00:41:29,708 On the other hand, we are just getting warmed up. 1019 00:41:29,875 --> 00:41:31,833 ♪ ♪