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ERIK: Our ambition is
to survey the triangle.
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JAN:
Right here, there is a target.
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TRAVIS:
Right where the data
pointed to a tunnel.
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JAN:
Yeah, something's
going on there.
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THOMAS:
We need to get
our drill out there.
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As they're hitting, you can see
it just turned to pure liquid.
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That would imply a void.
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I'm getting, like,
a really bad metallic taste.
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Shut it down, shut it down.
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We have a safety issue
we need to address.
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ERIK:
That could be exposure
to radiation.
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I'm starting to taste metal.
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I'm not kidding.
I'm not kidding you.
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Everybody needs
to vacate this area now.
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TRAVIS:
Oh, yeah,
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there is absolutely electricity
built up on this thing.
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There shouldn't be any,
should there?
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TRAVIS:
No.
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NARRATOR:
There is a ranch
in Northern Utah.
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It is considered the epicenter
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of the strangest and most
disturbing phenomena on Earth:
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animal mutilations,
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bizarre UFO sightings
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and unusual energies that have
proven harmful to humans.
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For 20 years,
the federal government
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tried to find answers
and failed.
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Now a new team
of dedicated scientists,
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researchers and experts
has taken over.
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They are determined to solve
the mystery and reveal...
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...The Secret
of Skinwalker Ranch.
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-ERIK: Hey, guys.
-TRAVIS: What's going on, man?
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THOMAS: Good to see you back.
How are you feeling?
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-ERIK: Heck of a lot better.
-Good.
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TRAVIS:
Yesterday, our team had
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one of the strangest
experiences ever
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during our investigation here
on Skinwalker Ranch.
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Right after
we drilled into a void
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where previous magnetometry
and radar surveys
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have detected evidence of
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a possible underground tunnel
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between the triangle
and the mesa,
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drill operator Brady Davis
and Erik Bard
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both started to taste metal.
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And after those guys left
for safety reasons,
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something else happened
that made me wonder
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if it was caused by
whatever we hit underground.
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Right after you left, Erik,
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we're trying to figure out
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what is it about this drill
that's causing people to
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have this metallic taste.
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And so, we went over
to the drill rig,
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and we took a voltmeter
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and we touched
one lead to the metal
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drill bit
and the other to the ground.
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And we should have measured,
you know, nothing,
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because there's no current path
for anything to flow there
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-that we know of.
-Okay.
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And we measured
an electrical field
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between the ground
and the drill bit.
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And who knows how high
that voltage got,
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while they were standing there
beside it and it was drilling.
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ERIK: Wow.
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I really wish
I had stayed around.
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Well, you know,
I think you are going to be
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very interested in what
I'm about to show you.
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So, you recall,
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on the drilling rig,
we put one of
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-the data-logging GPS sensors.
-Oh, yeah, right.
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ERIK:
I'm going to bring this up.
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Watch this. Right there.
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-TRAVIS: Oh, my goodness.
-ERIK: Now, correct me
if I'm wrong,
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but that drilling rig
did not go into the mesa.
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-TRAVIS: Lord, no.
-No.
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ERIK: Right. That drilling rig
didn't move at all.
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Nevertheless, what we see
happening here is
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the GPS data are showing
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a track that runs basically...
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TRAVIS:
Underground and into the mesa.
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ERIK:
Yeah, northwest.
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Now, these are
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the Lunasonde radar points.
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TRAVIS:
Look at that.
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ERIK:
Look at the correspondence
between these.
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TRAVIS:
One year ago,
we conducted a radar survey
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with a company named Lunasonde,
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which detected
a possible metallic tunnel
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underground between
the triangle and the mesa.
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And the GPS data
from a device that
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Erik attached to
the drill rig yesterday
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shows that the rig
somehow moved northwest
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and then went into the mesa
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along the exact line
where this possible tunnel
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that we were drilling for
was detected.
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What in the world
could have caused that?
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You-you know, it's almost
as if we've got something,
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whether it's natural or not,
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we've got something
under the surface
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that is influencing the data
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that we've collected
in several different ways,
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completely
different technologies,
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and they're lining up.
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TRAVIS:
This is really fascinating,
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that there could be something
under the ground right there
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that's causing these phenomena.
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ERIK:
Yes, it makes me
want to keep drilling
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-down into that hole.
-Yes.
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Yes.
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ERIK:
So, I want to get your eyes on
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the high-speed video footage.
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-TRAVIS: Oh, there's more?
-Oh, yes.
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TRAVIS:
During the drilling operation,
we also had
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a high-speed camera
pointed at the sky
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directly above the triangle,
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taking hundreds of shots
per second,
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looking for anything strange,
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so we were on the edge
of our seats to find out
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what the camera
had actually captured.
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ERIK:
Let's dive in.
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I'm gonna look at it
with the enhanced view.
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This is the footage
from out at the triangle.
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Um, as we play this,
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you probably see the, uh,
the lens flare
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that we're used to looking at.
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But there's some things in here
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that I cannot readily dismiss.
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-Let's see it, all right?
-All right.
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Watch what happens here.
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-TRAVIS: Wow.
-ERIK: We have several objects
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moving in unison.
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TRAVIS: Look how fast
they're moving.
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And it looks like
it sped up, even.
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-Did you see that?
-ERIK: Mm-hmm.
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TRAVIS: They-- those are
moving in a straight line.
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-ERIK: And see this guy here?
-TRAVIS: Yeah, look at that one.
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And it's moving way faster
than an airplane
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in a straight--
Here's another. Look at this.
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ERIK: Yes.
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That's not natural.
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TRAVIS:
Erik was right.
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These UAPs were definitely
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nothing natural,
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and were the most
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we've ever captured
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in a single setting.
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So, what were they?
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Where did they come from?
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And how might
they be connected to
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whatever we drilled into
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underground between
the triangle and the mesa?
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-TRAVIS: Wow.
-This is cool stuff.
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Yeah, so, you know,
out of all these observations,
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you know, I feel like we've
got some-some action items.
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Well, I think,
as soon as possible,
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we need to get that
drill rig back out here
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and see what's in that--
the bottom of that hole.
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ERIK:
Yep.
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Well, guys, this has been
a great discussion.
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I... I appreciate
getting your minds, obviously,
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your eyes and your minds
on this problem set.
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-BRYANT: Yeah.
-TRAVIS: All right.
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-THOMAS: Yeah. Eventful day.
-TRAVIS: Good stuff, Erik.
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ERIK:
Yeah.
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JAN: Okay, let's do it.
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Grab that.
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TRAVIS: While Thomas Winterton
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was arranging for
the drillers to come back
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and help us figure out what's
underground by the triangle...
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We're going to want
to go on this side right here,
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up this path.
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You'll kind of see where
we've kind of gone before,
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-but...
-Okay.
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TRAVIS:
...Kaleb Bench was helping
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ground-penetrating radar
expert Jan Francke
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scan the mesa
with a new device
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where he's previously
detected evidence of
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something very strange
buried deep inside there.
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-All right.
-So, Jan,
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-want you to
go back and forth...
-Yeah.
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...as much as we can,
and really see how far back
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and how deep
this anomaly is by chance.
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-Let's give it a go, for sure.
-Yeah.
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TRAVIS:
If all the UAPs
we've seen in the skies
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above Skinwalker Ranch
weren't strange enough,
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for the last three years,
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we've been trying
to identify a 400-foot-long,
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dome-shaped object that
we detected inside the mesa.
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During previous
drilling operations,
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we've been unable
to penetrate it,
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but we have recovered
metal fragments
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in the spoils that,
believe it or not,
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are composed of
similar materials
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to what NASA uses to protect
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the outside of our spacecraft
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for re-entry
into the atmosphere.
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-JAN: Here we go.
-So, Jan has come back to
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scan the top of the mesa
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with a new, specialized GPR unit
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that he believes can get
better images of this thing
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and help us plan
for an even more advanced
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drilling operation
in the coming weeks
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to finally figure out
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just what the heck
is really inside there.
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-KALEB: Is it good?
-JAN: It's good,
everything's working.
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KALEB:
We'll just kind of go slow.
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JAN:
Yeah, yeah.
I'll let you lead the way.
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-ADDY: Hi.
-KANDUS: Hey, there.
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How's it going?
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-TOM: Hi, Addy.
-Hello.
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TRAVIS: While Jan and Kaleb
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conducted the GPR survey
on the mesa,
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over at Homestead One,
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ranch caretakers Kandus Linde
and Tom Lewis
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met once again with Addy Diaz
and her brother Bubba.
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They live very close by
and wanted to share
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more information with us
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about cattle mutilations that
took place on Skinwalker Ranch
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back when the previous owner,
Robert Bigelow,
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investigated the property
with the help of
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the federal government
more than a decade ago.
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-Look at these tooth marks.
-Yeah.
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It would have to be
larger than a wolf.
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TRAVIS:
We recently found a dead cow
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on the property
with teeth marks in it
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that biologist
Ben Woodruff told us
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may have actually been caused
by a dire wolf,
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an animal that went extinct
about 10,000 years ago.
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Since there have been
legends of dire wolves
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attacking and mutilating cattle
on Skinwalker Ranch in the past,
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we really wanted to find out
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what Addy and Bubba
had to tell us.
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So, you basically
grew up here, right?
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-ADDY: Yeah.
-KANDUS: Can you tell us
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a little bit more
about cattle mutilations
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-in the area?
-BUBBA: Oh, yeah.
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ADDY: Yeah, it was probably
around September of 1997,
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my grandpa was
driving out, you know,
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in the field over this way
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and he found his cattle
on the fence line.
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-TOM: Okay.
-Hmm.
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The cow's, you know, body there
had no nose,
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no tongue, no eyes,
its ears were cut off.
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Everything inside of
the cow was gone.
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There was, like,
no blood around it,
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and the liver was perfectly
placed on a log next to it.
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-What?
-TOM: Really?
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ADDY:
But, like, it didn't
have no opening
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right here, and if it was
coyotes, there'd be tracks,
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there'd be blood everywhere.
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Right.
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They had a team come out
and look at it.
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TOM:
Do you know if the people
they called in
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to look at the cow were
part of the Bigelow team
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or if it was a vet or...
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ADDY:
Yeah, it was a vet first,
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and then Bigelow's team came.
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-TOM: Bigelow's team came.
-KANDUS: Uh-huh.
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BUBBA:
What is that?
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ADDY:
Oh, yeah.
It's over there. Look.
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TOM:
Oh, that's huge.
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BUBBA:
Oh, man. Big, giant plane.
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I've never seen a plane
fly that low.
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TOM:
Yeah.
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-That's like a military...
-Oh, man.
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-ADDY: Yeah.
-BUBBA: That's way low.
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TOM:
Wow.
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TOM:
That's like a military...
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-KANDUS: Oh, man.
-ADDY: Yeah.
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BUBBA:
That's way low.
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Wow, that was
a military plane, wasn't it?
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TRAVIS:
In the past few years,
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numerous military
helicopters and planes
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have flown back and forth
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over the ranch
during our investigations.
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Helicopter, helicopter!
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TRAVIS: Like they were trying
to conduct surveillance
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of what we were doing.
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When Tom and Kandus alerted us
about the aircraft they saw,
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Erik checked
the surveillance cameras
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and confirmed that it was,
indeed, a C-17,
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which are used by
the United States Air Force.
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We could tell
because of the shape
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of the rear rudder
and its cargo tailgate.
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So, was this a military plane
trying to spy on us
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just as we were looking deeper
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into what could be
inside the mesa?
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And if so, for what purpose?
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Have you noticed
any other military craft,
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especially low-flying craft?
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Oh, yeah. All the time
throughout here in the Basin.
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Wow.
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BUBBA:
You know, like, helicopters
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and planes flying really low.
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-Yeah.
-(laughs) Yeah.
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And they'll have a big dome
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underneath the plane,
like a camera-like thing
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-or whatever it is.
-KANDUS: Oh, yeah.
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-Yeah.
-BUBBA: One day,
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I did see a big white plane
that had,
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like, a satellite dish thing
on the very top of the plane.
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-Yeah.
-BUBBA: We've seen
quite a few of those, actually.
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-KANDUS: Like a radar or what?
-BUBBA: Like a radar, yeah.
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-That's what it sounds like.
-KANDUS: Huh.
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And then, over here
on Highway 40,
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we did spot two of those
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helicopters with two propellers.
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-Okay, yeah. Like a Chinook.
-BUBBA: What are they called?
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A Chinook, pretty much, yeah.
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TOM:
Yeah, we saw them fly,
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basically, around the ranch.
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-And then just take off again.
-That's pretty weird.
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Yeah. You've spent
your childhood here,
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grew up in these hills,
grew up on these roads.
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What was it like?
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ADDY:
It's definitely not normal.
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-Mm-hmm.
-ADDY: But, to me,
it's the only place I know.
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-Yeah.
-KANDUS: And were you warned
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to stay away from this area?
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Um, no, not really.
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Until Bigelow came.
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Mm.
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-So, late '90s?
-Yeah.
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Yeah, so what was it like?
Do you remember
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back then, when-when
Bigelow's team was here,
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what was going on?
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Like, did you see
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any crazy stuff happening
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when he had his team
stationed here?
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I'd hear stories,
you know, from my grandpa.
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And, you know, just the traffic
that go up and down the road.
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I used to see military Humvees
come up and down the road.
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They had a cargo thing
in the back.
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ADDY:
Yeah.
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So, these Humvees,
they had cargo area?
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Yeah, they were pulling,
like, little trailers
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in the back of them, you know,
like big spotlights.
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You know, like the kind
you haul around when you want to
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-light up an area.
-And they were coming
into the ranch?
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BUBBA:
They were coming in and out.
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They would be carrying
something on their flatbed,
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but it'd be
in a cargo container.
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I don't know what it would be,
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but it would be
a military truck, too.
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TOM:
Robert Bigelow dumped
considerable money
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into this place researching,
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and the problem with Bigelow
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is he hasn't released
most of the data that he has.
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Right now,
hearing all these stories,
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Addy provided us
with some information
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about the Bigelow era,
which is interesting.
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Considering our investigation
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around the triangle
and the mesa,
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I can't help wonder,
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maybe the Bigelow team
found something.
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So, thank you
for sharing and, you know,
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having the courage to share
these experiences
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that you've had
and your families had with us.
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And if there's anybody else
that you can think of
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that might want to share
their experiences with us,
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we'd really appreciate it.
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-Yeah. All right. (grunts)
-All righty, sounds good.
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-Thanks so much, Bubba,
-Oh, it's good to see you.
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-Good to see you, too.
-All right, yup, you're welcome.
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TOM:
We will talk to you soon.
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ERIK:
Hey, Jan.
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Hey, Erik.
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Well, thanks
for jumping on with us.
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We are all so anxious to
find out what you've discovered
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from the latest GPR survey
there above the drill site.
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TRAVIS: Based on
our previous GPR scans,
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we believe that
there's a massive,
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dome-shaped object in the mesa.
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And we've also recovered
metal fragments
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made up of the same materials
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that NASA uses
to protect spacecraft.
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So, we're hoping like hell
that Jan Francke's new GPR data
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will reveal additional details
about this thing
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and also help us make a plan
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to get inside the mesa
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and figure out
what in the world it could be.
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JAN:
If you recall, from last year,
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the last time we did the survey,
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we did about 300 meters
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along the very top of the slope,
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and we detected
that really strange anomaly.
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ERIK:
The dome feature.
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JAN:
Absolutely, yes, exactly.
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What I wanted to understand
is how far back
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into the mesa
does that continue?
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So, let me share my screen
with you,
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and I'll show you
what we've actually
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been able to gather here.
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So, guys, these black lines
represent where we collected
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the GPR data as we scanned
back and forth
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across the mesa.
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So, we did a total of 12 passes,
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starting at the edge
of the mesa and going backwards.
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Now, on the first pass,
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I got a hit
on my device right here,
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and on the GPR screen,
this is what it looked like.
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It was the exact same area
where we detected
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the large anomaly last year.
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00:16:15,542 --> 00:16:19,000
So, on my second pass,
a little bit further back,
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I got another hit right here,
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and it happened to be in line
with the previous one.
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Again.
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JAN:
So I kept going backwards.
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On my third pass, yet again,
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I got a hit that was also
in line with the others.
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And this kept happening
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on the remaining nine passes.
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So, in total, I got 12 hits
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for the same anomaly as I went
further and further back.
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-Yes.
-So, it is repeatable.
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Whoa.
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JAN:
What this all adds up to
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is probably a metallic object
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that could be buried
inside there,
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measuring, well,
at least 300 feet long,
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and it might be even larger.
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Wow.
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Erik and I loved
that Jan compared
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multiple scans that confirmed
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we do indeed have a massive
object inside the mesa.
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We've also been able
to speculate about it based on
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our drilling operations,
so it was very helpful to have
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new data to back up
our previous findings.
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JAN:
So, what we did is,
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being able to now create
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a three-dimensional shape
around it...
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So, let me show you
what that looks like in 3D.
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This is our target
in the same space,
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so we can really see
how that lines up.
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-Really?
-JAN: But, remember,
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this is not
the shape of the object,
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this is just
what the radar sees.
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The main target
is very, very clear.
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But as we look at this,
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there is an absolutely
obvious target
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that extends across
this entire area.
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00:18:02,750 --> 00:18:05,417
-Wow.
-It looks a lot like
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you would think
a debris field would be.
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ERIK:
Just think about
what circumstances
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would produce a debris field
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inside of a mesa.
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ERIK: Just think about
what circumstances
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would produce a debris field
inside of a mesa.
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TRAVIS:
Our investigation
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has to be objective,
and we have to follow
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00:18:38,042 --> 00:18:39,542
where the scientific data
takes us.
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Jan Francke's new
ground-penetrating radar scans
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of the inside of the mesa,
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where we've been investigating
a massive dome-shaped object
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for several years,
is showing evidence
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of a possible debris field
around it.
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So, what in the heck
could be inside there?
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00:18:56,333 --> 00:18:59,542
Could it be something man-made?
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Perhaps. But why
in the middle of nowhere?
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I can't see
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a natural phenomenon
that we could
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explain easily
causing this sort of anomaly.
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KALEB:
It reminds me of when we had,
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uh, Jake Huffman out
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in that same area right there.
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Well, that's interesting.
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I believe, at some point,
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there was blasting done.
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Perhaps that was done
to hide something.
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TRAVIS:
A couple years ago,
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demolition expert
Jake Huffman inspected
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all the boulders covering
this area of the mesa,
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and he gave us his opinion
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that a huge explosion
may have caused it.
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So, now that Jan
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has detected new images
of what we believe to be
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a massive dome-shaped object
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and a possible
debris field around it,
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we have to figure out
how to get inside there
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and find out what this is.
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So, this could be
multiple things.
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Right now, it's all speculation,
but here's what we know.
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There's a very large volume
of different material makeup
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in the mesa right there,
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and it could be metallic.
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It would really behoove us
to drill there
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and see if we can find
any material in those spots.
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00:20:15,375 --> 00:20:19,000
You know,
I feel like this has become
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the center point
of our research.
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00:20:21,208 --> 00:20:22,667
-Yeah.
-Yeah.
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Well, Jan, thank you
for sharing the data.
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I know we're gonna be
in touch again
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and soon on the follow-up.
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00:20:30,042 --> 00:20:32,583
Well, thanks for having me on,
guys. Really appreciate it.
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00:20:32,708 --> 00:20:34,875
-We'll be in touch.
-Thanks, Jan.
496
00:20:35,042 --> 00:20:36,583
JAN:
All right, take care.
497
00:20:46,042 --> 00:20:48,833
TRAVIS: All right, Kalista,
we're getting close.
498
00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:50,417
H-How you feeling about that?
499
00:20:50,542 --> 00:20:52,000
KALISTA:
A little nervous.
500
00:20:52,208 --> 00:20:54,458
-TRAVIS: Yeah?
-Don't know what to expect.
501
00:20:56,542 --> 00:20:57,833
TRAVIS:
While we were getting
our ducks in a row
502
00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,208
for how to get inside the mesa,
503
00:21:00,375 --> 00:21:03,292
the next day, we were ready
to continue drilling
504
00:21:03,458 --> 00:21:05,083
near the triangle to find out
505
00:21:05,208 --> 00:21:08,208
if there really is a metallic
tunnel beneath Skinwalker Ranch.
506
00:21:09,458 --> 00:21:11,958
Here you are,
at the command center.
507
00:21:12,125 --> 00:21:14,250
-KALISTA: I'm excited
to meet them.
-Here are the guys
508
00:21:14,417 --> 00:21:15,833
waiting to meet you,
look at that.
509
00:21:15,958 --> 00:21:18,292
And to help us collect
more scientific data
510
00:21:18,500 --> 00:21:20,167
as we continue
our drilling exercise,
511
00:21:20,375 --> 00:21:22,375
I brought my favorite
future scientist out
512
00:21:22,542 --> 00:21:24,000
to work with the team--
513
00:21:24,167 --> 00:21:26,667
my daughter, Kalista Taylor.
514
00:21:26,833 --> 00:21:28,292
I got somebody
I want y'all to meet.
515
00:21:28,458 --> 00:21:30,125
-Nice to meet you.
-Kalista.
516
00:21:30,333 --> 00:21:31,542
This is my daughter, Kalista.
517
00:21:31,708 --> 00:21:32,917
-Good to meet you, finally.
-You, too.
518
00:21:33,042 --> 00:21:34,083
-Nice to meet you.
-You, too.
519
00:21:34,250 --> 00:21:35,375
-Hey, how are you?
-Good.
520
00:21:35,500 --> 00:21:36,917
KALEB:
The new and improved Travis 2.0?
521
00:21:37,125 --> 00:21:38,333
Yeah, Travis 2.0,
that makes sense.
522
00:21:38,500 --> 00:21:39,917
Nice to meet you.
Heard so much about you.
523
00:21:40,083 --> 00:21:43,333
-So, I see
you're carrying something.
-Yes.
524
00:21:43,500 --> 00:21:45,167
She's been wanting
to build a sensor
525
00:21:45,333 --> 00:21:47,833
that would help us.
She put it together, tested it,
526
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,250
-got it working, wrote the code.
-Yeah, it's multiple sensors
527
00:21:50,375 --> 00:21:52,833
on two different
microcomputers, so...
528
00:21:53,042 --> 00:21:55,500
Yeah, it's got the GPS altitude,
the pressure altitude,
529
00:21:55,667 --> 00:21:57,000
and then,
you can map the trajectory
530
00:21:57,208 --> 00:21:58,750
by the accelerometer data,
531
00:21:58,875 --> 00:22:01,542
so, many different
mapping possibilities.
532
00:22:01,708 --> 00:22:03,167
That's perfect.
533
00:22:03,375 --> 00:22:05,750
KALISTA:
I'm a sophomore
electrical engineering student.
534
00:22:05,917 --> 00:22:08,792
My dad asked me to build
a multiple sensor package
535
00:22:08,875 --> 00:22:10,417
that could detect GPS,
536
00:22:10,583 --> 00:22:12,458
pressure, temperature
and humidity data
537
00:22:12,625 --> 00:22:14,333
to help decipher
what's going on here.
538
00:22:14,500 --> 00:22:15,583
-Well, let's go test it out.
-ERIK: Yeah.
539
00:22:15,750 --> 00:22:17,167
THOMAS: Kaleb and I will
meet you out there.
540
00:22:17,375 --> 00:22:18,208
-All right. Sounds good.
-Let's get out there.
541
00:22:18,375 --> 00:22:19,500
No time like the present.
542
00:22:19,625 --> 00:22:20,542
KALISTA:
I wanted to be able
543
00:22:20,708 --> 00:22:22,167
to contribute something to help
544
00:22:22,333 --> 00:22:24,667
read and decipher through
some of those things
545
00:22:24,875 --> 00:22:27,667
by collecting data through
different types of sensors.
546
00:22:32,417 --> 00:22:34,375
Oh, yeah.
547
00:22:34,542 --> 00:22:36,083
TRAVIS:
While the drillers
were getting ready
548
00:22:36,208 --> 00:22:38,208
to find out
if there really could be
549
00:22:38,375 --> 00:22:40,542
an underground tunnel
near the triangle...
550
00:22:41,583 --> 00:22:43,917
I think that's good.
All right, let's load it.
551
00:22:44,042 --> 00:22:47,000
...we wanted to run an
additional experiment to collect
552
00:22:47,167 --> 00:22:52,083
more data in the air where we've
recently seen several UAPs and
553
00:22:52,292 --> 00:22:55,125
experienced a bunch
of odd GPS errors
554
00:22:55,292 --> 00:22:56,792
with our instrumented drones
555
00:22:56,958 --> 00:22:58,542
between the triangle
and the east field.
556
00:22:58,708 --> 00:23:01,667
-Oh, that's gonna work great.
Perfect.
-Nice.
557
00:23:03,292 --> 00:23:06,333
TRAVIS: So, just a few feet
away from the drill site,
558
00:23:06,458 --> 00:23:08,833
we attached Kalista's
multi-sensor device
559
00:23:09,042 --> 00:23:10,792
to Jim Royston's lidar drone
560
00:23:10,958 --> 00:23:13,125
so he could fly it
toward the east field
561
00:23:13,208 --> 00:23:16,250
and scan for anything strange
between these two locations.
562
00:23:16,417 --> 00:23:18,000
Who knows
if there could be a connection
563
00:23:18,125 --> 00:23:20,417
between the anomalies
that we've detected in the air
564
00:23:20,625 --> 00:23:22,917
as well as underground.
565
00:23:23,083 --> 00:23:25,875
We hoped this experiment
would help us find out.
566
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,500
Okay. Here we go.
567
00:23:31,875 --> 00:23:33,625
-KALISTA: Yes!
-TRAVIS: There it goes.
568
00:23:33,792 --> 00:23:36,042
-Look at that.
-How cool.
569
00:23:36,250 --> 00:23:38,583
-(laughs) You built that.
-Yup.
570
00:23:38,708 --> 00:23:40,583
-TRAVIS: Maiden flight
of your sensor, Kalista.
-Yeah.
571
00:23:40,750 --> 00:23:43,417
-TRAVIS: Ain't that cool?
Can't beat that.
-Yeah.
572
00:23:43,542 --> 00:23:44,875
ERIK:
I'm looking forward
573
00:23:45,083 --> 00:23:46,667
to the scientific deliverables
574
00:23:46,875 --> 00:23:48,667
that come out
of flying this payload.
575
00:23:48,792 --> 00:23:52,000
Hopefully,
we'll get more insights
576
00:23:52,125 --> 00:23:55,292
about what is happening
above the triangle.
577
00:23:55,458 --> 00:23:57,667
So we can see it's on its way.
578
00:23:57,875 --> 00:23:59,333
We're gonna look
for that typical error...
579
00:23:59,542 --> 00:24:00,875
TRAVIS:
Mm-hmm.
580
00:24:01,042 --> 00:24:02,667
ROYSTON: ...once it gets
to the east canyon.
581
00:24:02,875 --> 00:24:04,333
TRAVIS:
Right.
582
00:24:04,500 --> 00:24:05,833
It'll be really good
to see what your sensor says...
583
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,583
-Yeah.
-...compared
to the accelerometers
584
00:24:07,708 --> 00:24:09,250
and all the other sensors.
585
00:24:09,458 --> 00:24:11,292
So, whenever we have good GPS,
this is green.
586
00:24:11,417 --> 00:24:13,625
See right here?
587
00:24:14,583 --> 00:24:16,875
-It went red.
-ROYSTON: So we just got it,
588
00:24:17,042 --> 00:24:18,625
-right where we expected.
-Okay. Yeah.
589
00:24:18,708 --> 00:24:20,625
So you guys are seeing it
on the screen, right?
590
00:24:20,792 --> 00:24:23,667
-Oh, wow.
-SAM: We've lost the connection
to the controller.
591
00:24:23,833 --> 00:24:25,625
-KALISTA: So it happens
every time?
-SAM: Yup.
592
00:24:25,792 --> 00:24:27,667
TRAVIS:
Yes, in that same spot
every time.
593
00:24:27,875 --> 00:24:29,375
That's so weird.
594
00:24:29,542 --> 00:24:31,250
-It makes no sense, man.
-Yeah.
595
00:24:31,375 --> 00:24:35,500
TRAVIS:
It was crazy that Jim's
lidar drone lost its GPS signal
596
00:24:35,625 --> 00:24:38,000
right as he flew over
the east field, because
597
00:24:38,208 --> 00:24:40,708
during other recent experiments
between that area
598
00:24:40,875 --> 00:24:43,958
and the triangle,
the exact same thing happened.
599
00:24:44,083 --> 00:24:46,375
It's like there's just
this void in the sky
600
00:24:46,583 --> 00:24:48,333
where we can't collect data.
601
00:24:48,542 --> 00:24:50,583
So, what could that be?
602
00:24:50,750 --> 00:24:52,250
And how might it be related
603
00:24:52,458 --> 00:24:54,833
to those UAPs
we saw a few days ago?
604
00:24:57,750 --> 00:25:00,375
ROYSTON:
Here we go, we're back,
we're right in that area,
605
00:25:00,542 --> 00:25:01,875
and we're green again.
606
00:25:02,083 --> 00:25:04,000
Yup, there we...
there we go again. Yep.
607
00:25:04,167 --> 00:25:05,875
Well, hopefully, your sensor
will give us some more
608
00:25:06,083 --> 00:25:07,375
-information about
what's happening there.
-Yes, yes.
609
00:25:07,542 --> 00:25:09,417
Yes. Perfect.
610
00:25:09,542 --> 00:25:11,833
KALISTA:
That would be awesome.
611
00:25:16,958 --> 00:25:18,458
-THOMAS: You're at 35, right?
-JEREMY: Uh-huh.
612
00:25:18,625 --> 00:25:20,208
-I think that...
-Keep going?
613
00:25:20,375 --> 00:25:21,667
Yeah, I think
we go another five feet
614
00:25:21,833 --> 00:25:23,875
-and see if we get out of it.
-Okay.
615
00:25:24,042 --> 00:25:27,167
TRAVIS:
While Jim Royston
started processing the data
616
00:25:27,333 --> 00:25:30,042
from the aerial survey
that he and Kalista ran,
617
00:25:30,208 --> 00:25:32,667
the drilling operation continued
near the triangle
618
00:25:32,792 --> 00:25:35,167
to look for evidence of
a possible underground tunnel.
619
00:25:35,375 --> 00:25:36,625
JONATHAN:
Okay.
620
00:25:38,042 --> 00:25:41,042
We're not having much luck
with getting any deeper.
621
00:25:41,250 --> 00:25:43,583
THOMAS:
It seems like
we've hit just a hard surface
622
00:25:43,750 --> 00:25:46,167
-that's not letting it
go down any further.
-Yeah.
623
00:25:46,375 --> 00:25:48,958
THOMAS:
Is this hard surface
what the GPR was picking up?
624
00:25:49,125 --> 00:25:53,375
Or could it be a ceiling
or some type of surface layer
625
00:25:53,542 --> 00:25:55,333
to a void that lies below?
626
00:25:55,458 --> 00:25:56,625
Either way, I'm eager
627
00:25:56,833 --> 00:25:58,167
to get back to drilling.
628
00:25:58,333 --> 00:25:59,333
JEREMY:
We got to get that sample.
629
00:25:59,542 --> 00:26:00,833
JONATHAN:
Okay.
630
00:26:01,042 --> 00:26:03,000
(whirring)
631
00:26:05,375 --> 00:26:07,125
JONATHAN:
It won't let me pull up.
632
00:26:07,292 --> 00:26:09,000
MASON:
That's not good.
633
00:26:09,125 --> 00:26:11,792
JONATHAN:
How are we going
to get that out of there?
634
00:26:13,500 --> 00:26:14,833
JEREMY:
If it's okay, I'd like
635
00:26:15,042 --> 00:26:17,333
to just see if our center rod
is wedged in there.
636
00:26:17,500 --> 00:26:18,708
Yeah, you do what you got to do.
637
00:26:18,875 --> 00:26:21,667
If there is,
we can get that out of there.
638
00:26:25,833 --> 00:26:27,208
JONATHAN:
Feels free.
639
00:26:28,292 --> 00:26:29,792
Coming up.
640
00:26:33,375 --> 00:26:34,833
JEREMY:
It stayed down there.
641
00:26:36,500 --> 00:26:38,667
THOMAS:
It stayed down?
642
00:26:38,875 --> 00:26:40,875
Yup.
643
00:26:41,875 --> 00:26:44,167
THOMAS:
Unfortunately,
the drill rod is stuck
644
00:26:44,333 --> 00:26:47,333
down in this hole,
and we can't get it back up.
645
00:26:47,542 --> 00:26:49,000
It's going
to make it impossible
646
00:26:49,167 --> 00:26:51,458
for us to drill any deeper
in this same hole.
647
00:26:51,667 --> 00:26:53,292
These guys have drilled
thousands of holes,
648
00:26:53,417 --> 00:26:55,000
but we're here
on Skinwalker Ranch,
649
00:26:55,125 --> 00:26:56,500
and just trying
to get a single hole
650
00:26:56,667 --> 00:26:58,792
seems to be a herculean task.
651
00:26:59,792 --> 00:27:01,000
Hey, guys.
You got our copy?
652
00:27:01,208 --> 00:27:02,333
ERIK:
Yeah, Thomas.
653
00:27:02,542 --> 00:27:03,792
Go ahead.
654
00:27:03,917 --> 00:27:05,750
THOMAS:
So, uh,
655
00:27:05,917 --> 00:27:08,250
we cannot go down any further,
and that center rod
656
00:27:08,417 --> 00:27:10,833
that goes down
through the drill casing
657
00:27:11,042 --> 00:27:15,000
and takes the core sample
has fallen down the hole.
658
00:27:17,208 --> 00:27:18,875
So, at this point,
we're going to have
659
00:27:19,042 --> 00:27:21,042
to leave that center rod
down in there
660
00:27:21,208 --> 00:27:23,583
and then, figure out
a way to fish it out.
661
00:27:23,792 --> 00:27:25,042
Understood, Thomas.
662
00:27:25,208 --> 00:27:26,500
Thanks for that update.
663
00:27:26,667 --> 00:27:27,917
Um, well, I got
a much simpler idea
664
00:27:28,042 --> 00:27:30,333
if you guys are
on board with it.
665
00:27:30,542 --> 00:27:32,708
-Go ahead.
-Let's move to the center
666
00:27:32,875 --> 00:27:34,583
of the triangle
and try drilling there.
667
00:27:34,708 --> 00:27:37,583
Definitely. I'd love
to get out of this hole.
668
00:27:37,708 --> 00:27:39,000
Definitely.
Uh, drillers said
669
00:27:39,167 --> 00:27:41,042
they would love
to get out of this hole.
670
00:27:41,208 --> 00:27:44,125
So, we can just move it over
a little bit and do it again.
671
00:27:44,250 --> 00:27:46,333
Okay, understood.
Thanks for the update.
672
00:27:46,542 --> 00:27:48,250
I would
673
00:27:48,417 --> 00:27:50,333
normally expect a drilling rig
to have no difficulty drilling
674
00:27:50,458 --> 00:27:53,500
into the kind of soil that
we at least think we have here.
675
00:27:53,625 --> 00:27:56,042
So, clearly,
this is kind of frustrating.
676
00:27:56,208 --> 00:27:58,792
The next step is to move
to another location.
677
00:27:58,958 --> 00:28:01,250
Okay. Coming up. Watch yourself.
678
00:28:01,375 --> 00:28:04,000
ERIK:
In the past, we've seen things
that are suggestive
679
00:28:04,208 --> 00:28:07,500
of tunnels or some other
structure beneath the triangle,
680
00:28:07,667 --> 00:28:09,958
so I want us
to continue drilling
681
00:28:10,125 --> 00:28:12,125
at the center of the triangle.
There's always
682
00:28:12,292 --> 00:28:14,958
the possibility that we'll find
something unexpected.
683
00:28:15,125 --> 00:28:18,042
MASON:
Keep going a little bit,
a little bit.
684
00:28:18,208 --> 00:28:21,333
That's perfect, then,
looks great.
685
00:28:29,333 --> 00:28:30,792
MASON:
Start spinning her.
686
00:28:31,792 --> 00:28:33,542
JONATHAN:
Spinning.
687
00:28:33,708 --> 00:28:34,875
TRAVIS:
Given all
the phenomena that
688
00:28:35,083 --> 00:28:36,333
we've experienced here,
689
00:28:36,500 --> 00:28:37,667
who knows what we could find?
690
00:28:37,875 --> 00:28:40,042
Hopefully,
the entrance to a tunnel.
691
00:28:40,208 --> 00:28:42,125
Let's launch this thing.
692
00:28:42,250 --> 00:28:44,083
We decided
to launch some rockets to see
693
00:28:44,250 --> 00:28:46,167
if we could stimulate
anything strange to happen.
694
00:28:46,333 --> 00:28:47,667
At the same time,
695
00:28:47,875 --> 00:28:50,000
Erik got set up
in the command center
696
00:28:50,125 --> 00:28:52,000
to keep a watch
on the spectrum analyzer,
697
00:28:52,208 --> 00:28:55,083
signal detectors
and the surveillance cameras.
698
00:28:56,958 --> 00:28:58,625
BRYANT:
Hey, guys?
699
00:28:58,750 --> 00:29:00,917
THOMAS:
Yeah, go ahead.
700
00:29:01,042 --> 00:29:02,750
BRYANT:
We're gonna go ahead
and launch a rocket,
701
00:29:02,875 --> 00:29:04,958
so just be advised.
702
00:29:05,125 --> 00:29:06,542
Copy that.
703
00:29:06,708 --> 00:29:09,042
THOMAS:
All right,
we'll, uh, watch for it.
704
00:29:09,250 --> 00:29:11,125
TRAVIS:
Go ahead and go hot
with that thing, Kaleb!
705
00:29:12,292 --> 00:29:14,083
(high-pitched tone)
706
00:29:14,292 --> 00:29:16,250
KALEB:
Five, four,
707
00:29:16,417 --> 00:29:19,083
three, two, one.
708
00:29:20,375 --> 00:29:22,750
TRAVIS:
Holy crap,
look at that thing go.
709
00:29:22,958 --> 00:29:25,333
THOMAS:
Yup, going north.
710
00:29:25,542 --> 00:29:28,000
-(high-pitched tone)
-TRAVIS: Hold up, hold up. Wait.
711
00:29:28,167 --> 00:29:30,792
What is that?
712
00:29:30,958 --> 00:29:32,833
Straight up, it's right there.
713
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,292
BRYANT:
It's right here.
It's right above our heads.
714
00:29:35,375 --> 00:29:36,958
-TRAVIS: Right there!
-KALEB: Right there,
right there.
715
00:29:37,125 --> 00:29:38,458
-Right there, right there.
-TRAVIS: That is flashing,
716
00:29:38,667 --> 00:29:40,167
-whatever that is.
-BRYANT: Oh.
717
00:29:40,375 --> 00:29:41,833
-Oh, right over there.
-TRAVIS: I see it, I see it!
718
00:29:41,958 --> 00:29:43,750
BRYANT:
Is it an airplane?
719
00:29:44,792 --> 00:29:46,792
KALEB:
That's not a plane.
720
00:29:48,208 --> 00:29:51,208
TRAVIS:
I don't know what
that flash up in the sky was,
721
00:29:51,375 --> 00:29:54,000
but it definitely was nothing
like an aircraft or a satellite
722
00:29:54,208 --> 00:29:56,292
or anything that made any sense.
723
00:29:56,458 --> 00:30:01,333
It was pulsing bright and
then fading out over and over.
724
00:30:01,458 --> 00:30:03,458
Disappearing and reappearing
in the same spot
725
00:30:03,625 --> 00:30:05,417
in the southwestern sky.
726
00:30:07,042 --> 00:30:09,167
TRAVIS:
Give me a walkie,
give me a walkie! Somebody!
727
00:30:09,292 --> 00:30:11,833
Walkie, walkie, walkie,
walkie, walkie, walkie.
728
00:30:13,958 --> 00:30:16,667
Hey, Erik, are you anywhere
to hear a walkie?!
729
00:30:16,792 --> 00:30:18,125
It's not flashing anymore.
730
00:30:18,292 --> 00:30:20,292
Uh, I still see it.
It's real faint.
731
00:30:22,292 --> 00:30:24,875
TRAVIS:
We have a flash in the sky.
732
00:30:25,042 --> 00:30:27,083
It's, uh, straight up
from the drill site,
733
00:30:27,292 --> 00:30:29,000
a little bit south,
a little bit west.
734
00:30:33,458 --> 00:30:35,083
-Uh...
-It got real faint.
735
00:30:35,292 --> 00:30:37,792
I think there's a little bit
of cloud between us and it now.
736
00:30:37,958 --> 00:30:38,792
ERIK:
Copy that, Travis.
737
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,458
I'm watching.
738
00:30:42,583 --> 00:30:44,167
Yeah, that was a definite flash.
739
00:30:44,292 --> 00:30:46,375
And it was right there,
and it was flashing...
740
00:30:46,500 --> 00:30:48,208
-bright, at us.
-Yup.
741
00:30:48,333 --> 00:30:50,333
That wasn't something
that was just a flare.
742
00:30:50,500 --> 00:30:51,875
No.
743
00:30:53,375 --> 00:30:56,167
Well, should we launch another
rocket and see if it comes back?
744
00:30:56,292 --> 00:30:58,667
-Damn right we should.
-Okay, let's do it.
745
00:30:58,875 --> 00:31:00,458
TRAVIS:
After that flash,
746
00:31:00,625 --> 00:31:02,125
I couldn't wait
to launch another rocket,
747
00:31:02,250 --> 00:31:04,125
but also wanted to check in
with the drillers
748
00:31:04,292 --> 00:31:06,833
to see what
they were finding underground.
749
00:31:06,917 --> 00:31:10,583
How deep are they now, Thomas?
750
00:31:10,750 --> 00:31:13,667
We're at 35,
but we're at bedrock, so...
751
00:31:13,792 --> 00:31:16,167
-Oh, really?
-Yeah, we're-we're at bedrock.
752
00:31:16,333 --> 00:31:18,292
So what I told 'em to do
is let's get a core,
753
00:31:18,458 --> 00:31:20,625
make sure that's
what we're really into.
754
00:31:20,750 --> 00:31:22,542
And, uh, if it is bedrock...
755
00:31:22,708 --> 00:31:24,167
-Then you can't do nothing else,
right?
-We've gone
756
00:31:24,333 --> 00:31:26,000
-as far as we can go, so...
-All right.
757
00:31:26,125 --> 00:31:27,000
That's interesting. You
didn't hit anything like that
758
00:31:27,167 --> 00:31:28,417
over there, did you?
759
00:31:28,583 --> 00:31:29,667
JEREMY:
No, no. We hit
760
00:31:29,875 --> 00:31:31,250
hard stuff, but it was gravel.
761
00:31:31,375 --> 00:31:32,708
This is smooth, and...
762
00:31:32,917 --> 00:31:34,167
we're getting through it
but very, very slow.
763
00:31:34,333 --> 00:31:35,250
TRAVIS:
You are cutting through it?
764
00:31:35,417 --> 00:31:36,833
Mm-hmm. So far.
765
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:37,958
Well, I'd like
to see a sample of it,
766
00:31:38,125 --> 00:31:40,333
see what it is. Who knows?
767
00:31:40,500 --> 00:31:42,167
-Who knows?
-Yeah.
768
00:31:42,333 --> 00:31:43,833
-Few more minutes,
we'll have one, so...
-All right.
769
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,042
Let me know.
770
00:31:45,208 --> 00:31:46,833
Got it.
771
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,083
(whirring, rattling)
772
00:31:51,625 --> 00:31:52,542
Hey, did you see that?
773
00:31:52,708 --> 00:31:53,542
KALEB:
Yeah.
774
00:31:53,708 --> 00:31:55,500
TRAVIS:
You see the UFO?
775
00:31:55,667 --> 00:31:56,875
Holy crap.
776
00:31:58,375 --> 00:31:59,542
Look at that thing.
777
00:31:59,667 --> 00:32:00,667
ERIK:
It looked just like
778
00:32:00,792 --> 00:32:02,542
a large, circular object.
779
00:32:03,625 --> 00:32:05,542
What is going on?
780
00:32:09,792 --> 00:32:11,167
BRYANT:
What the hell is up there?
781
00:32:12,208 --> 00:32:13,167
KALEB:
Erik, something just went
782
00:32:13,333 --> 00:32:14,625
behind the mesa to the north.
783
00:32:14,750 --> 00:32:16,042
I don't know if you can see it.
784
00:32:16,208 --> 00:32:17,583
ERIK: 'Kay,
I'll let you know
785
00:32:17,750 --> 00:32:19,500
if we've got anything
on the ADS-B.
786
00:32:19,708 --> 00:32:22,833
10-4. It was-- it was moving...
787
00:32:23,042 --> 00:32:25,042
west to east.
788
00:32:25,208 --> 00:32:27,000
BRYANT:
We were doing
this core drilling exercise.
789
00:32:27,208 --> 00:32:29,042
We were launching some rockets.
790
00:32:29,208 --> 00:32:30,458
And then, all of a sudden,
791
00:32:30,625 --> 00:32:32,875
off to the south,
we saw a flash in the sky
792
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,750
that persisted
for several minutes.
793
00:32:34,875 --> 00:32:38,000
And then we saw
a UAP in the sky.
794
00:32:38,208 --> 00:32:40,500
I don't know what's going on,
but it's blowing my mind.
795
00:32:40,667 --> 00:32:43,542
ERIK:
I do not have any aircraft
in the airspace,
796
00:32:43,708 --> 00:32:46,208
uh, to the north of the mesa
moving west to east.
797
00:32:48,500 --> 00:32:50,000
THOMAS:
We don't have visibility now,
but I did see something.
798
00:32:50,167 --> 00:32:52,333
Well, I'm not seeing it anymore.
799
00:32:52,500 --> 00:32:54,958
We do have the core sample
from-from down there
800
00:32:55,125 --> 00:32:56,667
-where it's hard.
-What does it look like?
801
00:32:56,875 --> 00:32:58,208
Well, we-we actually
just got it out.
802
00:32:58,375 --> 00:33:00,667
We're just gonna break it open
right now.
803
00:33:00,833 --> 00:33:03,625
Let's go look and see what, uh,
they pulled out of the drill
804
00:33:03,833 --> 00:33:06,500
on this last, uh, core sample.
805
00:33:06,708 --> 00:33:08,458
THOMAS:
Let's get the ends off.
806
00:33:12,125 --> 00:33:13,333
All right, well, this is
807
00:33:13,542 --> 00:33:15,167
the sample off of the...
808
00:33:15,375 --> 00:33:17,083
What would this be,
about 36 feet?
809
00:33:17,250 --> 00:33:19,583
Yeah, 35 to 36 and a half.
810
00:33:19,750 --> 00:33:21,833
TRAVIS:
This is where you said
you were hitting something hard?
811
00:33:22,042 --> 00:33:23,292
-Yeah.
-THOMAS: You guys pounded
812
00:33:23,458 --> 00:33:25,000
the crap out of this
to get it to go down.
813
00:33:25,208 --> 00:33:26,583
Yeah. Yeah, we hit it
814
00:33:26,708 --> 00:33:28,375
150 times, nearly.
815
00:33:29,667 --> 00:33:31,625
♪ ♪
816
00:33:36,833 --> 00:33:38,208
-It's empty.
-THOMAS: Uh, what?
817
00:33:39,292 --> 00:33:40,458
TRAVIS:
Why is it empty?
818
00:33:41,667 --> 00:33:42,708
THOMAS:
What was so hard
819
00:33:42,917 --> 00:33:44,500
that it was taking so many hits
820
00:33:44,708 --> 00:33:46,125
to get it to go down?
821
00:33:46,208 --> 00:33:48,917
To my shock, the whole
bottom part of it is...
822
00:33:49,042 --> 00:33:50,500
is empty.
823
00:33:50,667 --> 00:33:53,500
This is not what
any of us expected.
824
00:33:53,708 --> 00:33:54,667
What is that?
825
00:33:54,833 --> 00:33:57,417
It's clay-ish, whatever that is.
826
00:33:58,292 --> 00:34:01,292
It just broke it up enough
that it just fell right back out
827
00:34:01,458 --> 00:34:03,500
or didn't go up in the sample.
828
00:34:03,667 --> 00:34:05,875
THOMAS:
Picture putting it on
a sandstone rock
829
00:34:06,042 --> 00:34:07,250
-and hitting it.
-TRAVIS: Mm-hmm.
830
00:34:07,417 --> 00:34:09,167
Rather than it making
a perfect core
831
00:34:09,333 --> 00:34:11,250
that went up there
that just shattered the rock...
832
00:34:11,417 --> 00:34:13,792
-Turned into gravel.
-Turned into gravel
when they pulled it up.
833
00:34:13,958 --> 00:34:16,083
-Interesting.
-So what we have now
834
00:34:16,250 --> 00:34:18,417
is more questions than answers.
835
00:34:18,583 --> 00:34:19,583
Right.
836
00:34:20,875 --> 00:34:23,333
TRAVIS:
This core should have been
full of something,
837
00:34:23,542 --> 00:34:26,333
since they broke
through a really hard surface.
838
00:34:26,500 --> 00:34:30,000
We've now drilled two holes
where this possible tunnel is
839
00:34:30,167 --> 00:34:31,667
in the area of the triangle.
840
00:34:31,875 --> 00:34:35,000
But the only thing we've come up
with is more questions.
841
00:34:35,208 --> 00:34:38,125
We'd have to drill 47 holes
over there
842
00:34:38,292 --> 00:34:41,042
to really kind of make a profile
of what's there.
843
00:34:41,208 --> 00:34:42,750
We got to think this through
a little bit better.
844
00:34:42,875 --> 00:34:44,625
I think we go ahead and pull up.
845
00:34:44,708 --> 00:34:45,875
-They can't go any further
with this.
-TRAVIS: Yeah, yeah.
846
00:34:46,042 --> 00:34:47,208
Great idea. Let's do it.
847
00:34:47,375 --> 00:34:48,667
And Erik's
probably gonna hear...
848
00:34:48,833 --> 00:34:50,333
hear about this, too, so...
849
00:34:50,500 --> 00:34:52,042
Well, guys, I appreciate it.
850
00:34:52,208 --> 00:34:53,500
-Thank y'all.
-(chuckling)
-(chuckles) Yeah.
851
00:34:53,583 --> 00:34:54,500
Our pleasure.
852
00:34:54,708 --> 00:34:56,333
All right.
853
00:34:56,458 --> 00:34:58,333
♪ ♪
854
00:35:04,458 --> 00:35:05,500
TRAVIS:
Hey, fellas.
855
00:35:05,667 --> 00:35:06,958
BRYANT:
Hello.
856
00:35:07,125 --> 00:35:08,667
ERIK:
Got some data collected
857
00:35:08,875 --> 00:35:09,708
during
the core drilling exercise
858
00:35:09,875 --> 00:35:11,000
out there at the triangle.
859
00:35:11,083 --> 00:35:12,417
TRAVIS:
The next morning,
860
00:35:12,625 --> 00:35:14,833
we were really excited
that Erik and Jim Royston
861
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,292
had processed our data
862
00:35:16,500 --> 00:35:18,333
and already reviewed
the surveillance footage.
863
00:35:18,542 --> 00:35:21,125
Of course,
I was especially interested
864
00:35:21,292 --> 00:35:23,000
to find out
what Kalista's sensor
865
00:35:23,167 --> 00:35:24,833
might have actually detected.
866
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,458
You flew all the way
867
00:35:27,583 --> 00:35:30,292
to the east field and back
with the drone.
868
00:35:30,458 --> 00:35:32,125
-Multiple times. Yeah.
-Multiple times
869
00:35:32,292 --> 00:35:33,667
with the-- Kalista's sensor.
870
00:35:33,792 --> 00:35:35,167
I actually have imported that
871
00:35:35,333 --> 00:35:36,667
into the three-dimensional
framework,
872
00:35:36,792 --> 00:35:38,167
and we can look at that.
873
00:35:38,333 --> 00:35:39,333
If you guys are ready
to look at some data,
874
00:35:39,417 --> 00:35:40,625
I'd love to get it
on the screen.
875
00:35:42,417 --> 00:35:46,208
So, what you're seeing
is the GPS position
876
00:35:46,333 --> 00:35:49,250
as data-logged
by Kalista's instrument.
877
00:35:49,417 --> 00:35:50,833
And I'd like to know
878
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,083
whether anything
that you see here
879
00:35:53,250 --> 00:35:55,958
-jumps out right away.
-Boy, jump-jumps out at me.
-ROYSTON: Right away.
880
00:35:56,083 --> 00:35:58,500
-(chuckles) You go ahead.
-Yeah. No, you flew the drone.
You say it.
881
00:35:58,708 --> 00:36:00,000
The start point,
882
00:36:00,125 --> 00:36:01,500
which is at the triangle.
883
00:36:01,667 --> 00:36:03,667
-ERIK: Let's zoom in on that.
-Yeah.
884
00:36:04,750 --> 00:36:06,458
That's off.
885
00:36:06,625 --> 00:36:08,167
-For sure.
-ERIK: That's exactly what
jumped out at me.
886
00:36:08,375 --> 00:36:10,542
You know, Jim, I know
you did not fly it this way.
887
00:36:10,708 --> 00:36:12,167
-No. No.
-TRAVIS: That looks like
it's, you know,
888
00:36:12,333 --> 00:36:13,708
half the height
889
00:36:13,875 --> 00:36:15,333
-or even less.
-Mm-hmm.
890
00:36:15,542 --> 00:36:18,167
TRAVIS:
And, you know,
what's interesting to me,
891
00:36:18,333 --> 00:36:19,417
if you look right here,
892
00:36:19,583 --> 00:36:22,542
the data appears to jump down.
893
00:36:24,375 --> 00:36:25,833
Now, where is that?
894
00:36:26,042 --> 00:36:28,125
Is that over the east canyon?
895
00:36:28,250 --> 00:36:30,750
It's where we've been seeing,
896
00:36:30,917 --> 00:36:32,667
time and time again,
897
00:36:32,875 --> 00:36:34,708
those anomalies.
898
00:36:34,875 --> 00:36:38,000
TRAVIS:
Just like the other recent
drone experiments,
899
00:36:38,083 --> 00:36:40,458
the GPS data
on Jim's lidar drone
900
00:36:40,625 --> 00:36:42,667
did not match
the actual flight path
901
00:36:42,833 --> 00:36:44,292
we all saw it make.
902
00:36:44,500 --> 00:36:47,333
And then
Kalista's sensor data showed
903
00:36:47,542 --> 00:36:50,417
some kind of interference
near the east field,
904
00:36:50,542 --> 00:36:53,167
where we've seen UAPs
fly through the mesa
905
00:36:53,375 --> 00:36:55,417
and then head
towards the triangle.
906
00:36:55,583 --> 00:37:00,750
ERIK:
This is exactly where we've seen
dropouts in the data before.
907
00:37:00,875 --> 00:37:02,667
-Absolutely.
-TRAVIS: And this is
a different sensor
908
00:37:02,875 --> 00:37:04,042
than the ones we've used before.
909
00:37:04,208 --> 00:37:06,000
So, again, we're seeing
910
00:37:06,167 --> 00:37:07,708
the same anomaly
in the same location.
911
00:37:09,042 --> 00:37:10,167
We're at a point now
912
00:37:10,375 --> 00:37:12,458
where what we can say is,
913
00:37:12,625 --> 00:37:16,208
we know there is some sort
of anomalous phenomena here.
914
00:37:17,250 --> 00:37:19,750
Now, following on the timeline,
915
00:37:19,875 --> 00:37:21,542
the collection of this data,
916
00:37:21,708 --> 00:37:24,917
we also have a video record that
I want to share with you guys,
917
00:37:25,042 --> 00:37:26,875
uh, taken the-- taken the night.
918
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,083
TRAVIS:
So that's after we moved
919
00:37:28,250 --> 00:37:29,500
-from this hole...
-Yes.
920
00:37:29,708 --> 00:37:31,333
...to the one
that was closer to the triangle.
921
00:37:31,542 --> 00:37:32,833
Right. Still in the same
general vicinity,
922
00:37:33,042 --> 00:37:34,583
but, yeah,
there at the triangle.
923
00:37:34,708 --> 00:37:36,708
And I think you're gonna find
these clips interesting.
924
00:37:37,958 --> 00:37:39,458
'Kay, this is a flash
925
00:37:39,542 --> 00:37:41,250
-that occurs in the sky.
-BRYANT: Oh. Yeah.
926
00:37:41,417 --> 00:37:42,250
ERIK:
You'll-you'll remember this.
927
00:37:42,375 --> 00:37:44,000
Uh, we have
928
00:37:44,125 --> 00:37:46,375
the actual video record
of it here.
929
00:37:50,167 --> 00:37:51,458
TRAVIS:
Wow! Look at that.
930
00:37:51,625 --> 00:37:53,250
BRYANT:
Oh.
931
00:38:00,667 --> 00:38:02,500
TRAVIS:
Wow! Look at that.
932
00:38:02,708 --> 00:38:05,083
-And, you know,
if you zoom in on it, Erik...
-Okay.
933
00:38:05,250 --> 00:38:07,458
I think we can dive into it
934
00:38:07,625 --> 00:38:09,000
and take
a frame-by-frame approach
935
00:38:09,167 --> 00:38:11,375
to-to really see
what's happening.
936
00:38:12,375 --> 00:38:14,042
-Yeah, there it is.
-That's it right there.
937
00:38:14,208 --> 00:38:15,375
Look at that.
938
00:38:15,542 --> 00:38:18,292
That is very spherical.
939
00:38:18,458 --> 00:38:20,500
-ERIK: Well-defined.
-Well-defined.
940
00:38:20,583 --> 00:38:23,500
The flashing UAP that appeared
941
00:38:23,667 --> 00:38:25,667
while we were drilling
at the triangle last night
942
00:38:25,875 --> 00:38:27,667
was one of
the most incredible phenomena
943
00:38:27,875 --> 00:38:30,375
we've ever documented
on Skinwalker Ranch.
944
00:38:30,542 --> 00:38:33,208
But what could it have been
and where did it come from?
945
00:38:33,333 --> 00:38:34,583
And then the next frame.
946
00:38:34,792 --> 00:38:37,000
TRAVIS:
Oh, there-- Still, it's there.
947
00:38:37,167 --> 00:38:38,167
It's fading.
948
00:38:38,333 --> 00:38:40,083
And what's really interesting is
949
00:38:40,250 --> 00:38:41,833
that it's still very bright
in the middle.
950
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:42,917
ERIK:
Yes.
951
00:38:43,042 --> 00:38:45,167
Now, I know, Erik,
952
00:38:45,292 --> 00:38:47,292
that we saw this
for several minutes.
953
00:38:47,417 --> 00:38:49,167
The video you got,
is there multiple?
954
00:38:49,333 --> 00:38:52,167
-We do have multiple instances
of the flash.
-(clears throat)
955
00:38:52,333 --> 00:38:54,625
-So here's the next one.
-Okay.
956
00:38:54,750 --> 00:38:56,625
ERIK:
And...
957
00:38:56,792 --> 00:38:57,667
it's instantly on,
958
00:38:57,875 --> 00:38:59,125
and then it fades off.
So that...
959
00:38:59,333 --> 00:39:00,917
That one didn't look as bright.
960
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,500
TRAVIS:
That didn't look
near as bright that time.
961
00:39:05,625 --> 00:39:07,333
One of the things
that comes to mind, of course,
962
00:39:07,542 --> 00:39:09,167
every time we see
flashes like this is
963
00:39:09,292 --> 00:39:12,167
-what we saw in Orion.
-Yeah.
964
00:39:12,375 --> 00:39:13,917
-It was two years ago, right?
-Yeah.
965
00:39:14,083 --> 00:39:15,125
Okay.
966
00:39:15,292 --> 00:39:17,125
-There. There. Right.
-Oh!
967
00:39:17,250 --> 00:39:19,583
-What was that?
-Okay, that's what I'm trying
to figure out.
968
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,833
TRAVIS:
That's the brightest thing
in the sky.
969
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,333
ERIK:
So here it is.
970
00:39:28,375 --> 00:39:29,625
It did have certain things
in common with it.
971
00:39:29,792 --> 00:39:31,417
TRAVIS:
It looked just like it,
972
00:39:31,583 --> 00:39:33,750
and, uh, it looked like
the same color.
973
00:39:33,917 --> 00:39:35,500
-ERIK: Okay.
-Weird.
974
00:39:35,625 --> 00:39:37,833
And so what in the world
is doing that and to what end?
975
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,708
And why are we only seeing it
here at the ranch?
976
00:39:42,917 --> 00:39:45,833
Not that anything on this ranch
makes sense anyway,
977
00:39:46,042 --> 00:39:48,333
but why do we keep experiencing
stuff like this?
978
00:39:48,458 --> 00:39:50,417
We launch rockets
above the triangle
979
00:39:50,542 --> 00:39:53,208
and we see GPS data
show up underground
980
00:39:53,375 --> 00:39:55,458
where a possible tunnel
has been detected.
981
00:39:55,625 --> 00:39:57,583
Then we drill for a tunnel
982
00:39:57,792 --> 00:40:00,458
and we see multiple UAPs
in the sky.
983
00:40:00,583 --> 00:40:02,458
It's like the old Masonic adage,
984
00:40:02,667 --> 00:40:04,583
"as above, so below."
985
00:40:04,750 --> 00:40:06,375
There has to be a connection,
986
00:40:06,542 --> 00:40:08,667
and we have to find out
what it is.
987
00:40:08,833 --> 00:40:11,000
Well, you know, we need
to put our heads together
988
00:40:11,125 --> 00:40:12,333
on how to follow up on this.
989
00:40:12,542 --> 00:40:14,292
Jim, I appreciate
the data review.
990
00:40:14,500 --> 00:40:15,667
Fascinating material.
991
00:40:15,833 --> 00:40:16,958
-Yeah.
-ERIK: Like you to tell Kalista
992
00:40:17,125 --> 00:40:18,208
thanks for the data.
993
00:40:18,417 --> 00:40:19,333
-Thank you.
-TRAVIS: All right.
994
00:40:19,542 --> 00:40:20,792
ROYSTON:
All right, guys.
995
00:40:23,500 --> 00:40:26,958
ERIK:
So our attention is being drawn
again and again to the triangle,
996
00:40:27,125 --> 00:40:29,292
both to the airspace above
997
00:40:29,458 --> 00:40:32,708
and to what may lie
in the subsurface.
998
00:40:32,875 --> 00:40:36,167
I'm convinced that,
as we continue this research,
999
00:40:36,375 --> 00:40:38,000
we're also going to...
1000
00:40:38,167 --> 00:40:39,875
broaden and deepen
1001
00:40:40,042 --> 00:40:42,292
the kinds of things
that we're doing here
1002
00:40:42,458 --> 00:40:44,667
to get to the answers.
1003
00:40:45,708 --> 00:40:48,542
TRAVIS:
Thomas Winterton told me
on my first day here
1004
00:40:48,750 --> 00:40:51,917
that Skinwalker Ranch
reacts to certain people.
1005
00:40:52,042 --> 00:40:55,500
Well, it dang sure
seems to react to us.
1006
00:40:55,708 --> 00:40:58,500
So we're gonna keep poking it
with hard science
1007
00:40:58,667 --> 00:41:01,333
until it finally reveals
its long-held secrets.
1008
00:41:01,542 --> 00:41:04,333
BRANDON:
We have observed
acute medical episodes
1009
00:41:04,542 --> 00:41:07,208
occurring simultaneously
with drilling activity.
1010
00:41:07,375 --> 00:41:08,917
The concept
1011
00:41:09,083 --> 00:41:12,208
that digging brings with it
1012
00:41:12,375 --> 00:41:14,583
other disruption
and other danger...
1013
00:41:15,542 --> 00:41:16,792
...is a reality.
1014
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,458
The data proves it,
1015
00:41:18,583 --> 00:41:20,500
and the team
is more motivated than ever
1016
00:41:20,667 --> 00:41:22,333
to get the answers.
1017
00:41:22,417 --> 00:41:25,333
In some ways,
we have accomplished so much.
1018
00:41:25,542 --> 00:41:29,708
On the other hand,
we are just getting warmed up.
1019
00:41:29,875 --> 00:41:31,833
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