1 00:00:02,083 --> 00:00:03,208 All right, Sam, we're just over top of you now 2 00:00:03,375 --> 00:00:05,042 at 1,000 feet. 3 00:00:05,208 --> 00:00:06,667 He's way behind the lidar truck. 4 00:00:06,833 --> 00:00:08,500 I don't know, something's going on. 5 00:00:12,042 --> 00:00:13,667 You should have been able to see that. 6 00:00:13,833 --> 00:00:15,208 Oh, my goodness. 7 00:00:20,708 --> 00:00:22,167 Wow. 8 00:00:22,333 --> 00:00:24,542 CAMERON: Nothing should be frickin' flying up here. 9 00:00:24,708 --> 00:00:25,875 It's crazy. 10 00:00:26,750 --> 00:00:30,667 NARRATOR: There is a ranch in Northern Utah. 11 00:00:30,833 --> 00:00:33,167 It is considered the epicenter 12 00:00:33,333 --> 00:00:38,375 of the strangest and most disturbing phenomena on Earth: 13 00:00:38,542 --> 00:00:40,417 animal mutilations, 14 00:00:40,542 --> 00:00:42,500 bizarre UFO sightings 15 00:00:42,625 --> 00:00:47,833 and unusual energies that have proven harmful to humans. 16 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,333 For 20 years, the federal government 17 00:00:50,500 --> 00:00:53,792 tried to find answers and failed. 18 00:00:53,958 --> 00:00:57,917 Now a new team of dedicated scientists, 19 00:00:58,083 --> 00:01:01,625 researchers and experts has taken over. 20 00:01:01,792 --> 00:01:05,708 They are determined to solve the mystery and reveal... 21 00:01:07,958 --> 00:01:11,792 ...The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch. 22 00:01:17,542 --> 00:01:19,542 TRAVIS: I can't wait to see that drill rod 23 00:01:19,708 --> 00:01:21,125 poking up out of the mesa. 24 00:01:23,167 --> 00:01:24,542 I bet it was a lot easier when Cameron 25 00:01:24,708 --> 00:01:26,292 just flew y'all up here in the helicopter. 26 00:01:26,417 --> 00:01:28,667 KALEB: It was quite nice, actually. 27 00:01:30,250 --> 00:01:31,750 -TRAVIS: Hey, look at that. -THOMAS: Yeah. 28 00:01:31,875 --> 00:01:34,833 I can't believe this thing is finally out the top. 29 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,083 THOMAS: This has been the strangest 30 00:01:37,250 --> 00:01:38,917 and most revealing year ever 31 00:01:39,083 --> 00:01:41,250 for our team on Skinwalker Ranch. 32 00:01:41,417 --> 00:01:43,167 We still have a ton of questions 33 00:01:43,375 --> 00:01:45,792 about all the phenomena that we've documented out here. 34 00:01:47,542 --> 00:01:48,667 But last night, 35 00:01:48,833 --> 00:01:50,833 during a high-tech ranch-wide experiment... 36 00:01:51,042 --> 00:01:52,542 Whoa. Check that out. 37 00:01:53,667 --> 00:01:55,292 TRAVIS: ...the crew from Mark Construction 38 00:01:55,458 --> 00:01:58,000 was finally able to finish the first step 39 00:01:58,125 --> 00:01:59,333 of an operation that we've struggled with 40 00:01:59,500 --> 00:02:01,333 for the last several months. 41 00:02:01,417 --> 00:02:04,750 -Travis, we have broken through. -(whoops) 42 00:02:06,583 --> 00:02:09,958 And that was to drill an eight-inch borehole 43 00:02:10,083 --> 00:02:12,250 all the way up through the rocky mesa 44 00:02:12,417 --> 00:02:14,333 where ground-penetrating radar 45 00:02:14,500 --> 00:02:17,833 has detected a huge, possibly metallic dome-shaped object 46 00:02:18,042 --> 00:02:19,917 that's surrounded by a debris field 47 00:02:20,042 --> 00:02:21,458 of smaller anomalies. 48 00:02:23,417 --> 00:02:25,500 How far is it from here to down there? 49 00:02:25,667 --> 00:02:28,500 Uh, from the drill, it's 675 feet. 50 00:02:28,667 --> 00:02:30,000 TRAVIS: Dadgum. Wow. 51 00:02:30,167 --> 00:02:31,750 Once we have that hole cased, 52 00:02:31,917 --> 00:02:33,625 we'll be able to study the hell out of that question. 53 00:02:33,708 --> 00:02:36,500 We'll drop beacons down there, radio transmitters, 54 00:02:36,708 --> 00:02:38,375 uh, gamma ray sources, 55 00:02:38,542 --> 00:02:40,333 everything we can think of, we're gonna put in that hole. 56 00:02:40,500 --> 00:02:43,250 This drilling operation has been plagued 57 00:02:43,417 --> 00:02:45,292 with bizarre equipment failures, 58 00:02:45,417 --> 00:02:49,333 so it was a huge relief to finally get this hole done. 59 00:02:50,375 --> 00:02:53,250 But now it needs to be reamed-- or widened-- 60 00:02:53,375 --> 00:02:55,708 several more inches, and then cased. 61 00:02:55,875 --> 00:02:59,000 After that, Erik and I can insert some scanning devices 62 00:02:59,125 --> 00:03:00,417 to hopefully identify 63 00:03:00,625 --> 00:03:03,417 what these things truly are. 64 00:03:03,625 --> 00:03:06,750 Whatever's inside that mesa may be critical 65 00:03:06,875 --> 00:03:09,792 to figuring out the mystery of this place. 66 00:03:11,208 --> 00:03:13,333 This is a 600-foot shaft now 67 00:03:13,500 --> 00:03:15,375 that we can see through this mesa. 68 00:03:15,542 --> 00:03:17,292 Can't wait to do that, but it's gonna 69 00:03:17,458 --> 00:03:18,833 start snowing before long, Erik. 70 00:03:20,500 --> 00:03:22,125 ERIK: Talk to us about options. 71 00:03:22,292 --> 00:03:24,125 Um, what we can do is, 72 00:03:24,292 --> 00:03:25,542 we can pull everything out, 73 00:03:25,708 --> 00:03:27,208 come back when it's summer, and we get 74 00:03:27,375 --> 00:03:28,417 right back to that hole. 75 00:03:28,583 --> 00:03:29,625 What do you do to make sure 76 00:03:29,792 --> 00:03:31,000 it doesn't collapse 77 00:03:31,125 --> 00:03:32,625 or the weather doesn't fill it in? 78 00:03:32,833 --> 00:03:34,208 As good as the hole is, and as many times 79 00:03:34,375 --> 00:03:36,333 that we've been in and out of it, 80 00:03:36,542 --> 00:03:38,833 I-I promise you I'll get back in that hole 81 00:03:38,958 --> 00:03:40,458 when you guys want us back. 82 00:03:40,667 --> 00:03:42,875 THOMAS: While it's looking like 83 00:03:43,042 --> 00:03:44,292 time's not gonna allow us 84 00:03:44,458 --> 00:03:46,167 to do much more on this hole this year, 85 00:03:46,375 --> 00:03:47,917 we've at least got it drilled, 86 00:03:48,083 --> 00:03:50,208 and Alex is very confident 87 00:03:50,375 --> 00:03:52,750 that this hole will stay intact, and that, 88 00:03:52,917 --> 00:03:55,458 next year, when we kick our investigation off, 89 00:03:55,583 --> 00:03:58,042 they can come back and, using the same hole, 90 00:03:58,250 --> 00:03:59,875 they can begin to bore it bigger. 91 00:04:00,042 --> 00:04:02,833 I'm super excited to get back to this spot. 92 00:04:03,042 --> 00:04:04,750 We're gonna get a lot of equipment down there 93 00:04:04,875 --> 00:04:07,167 and we're really gonna start to figure out 94 00:04:07,333 --> 00:04:09,333 what's lying in this very hard to reach spot 95 00:04:09,542 --> 00:04:11,500 in the mesa at Skinwalker Ranch. 96 00:04:11,667 --> 00:04:13,167 I... You know, I'm so anxious 97 00:04:13,292 --> 00:04:15,083 to get some instruments down into this hole, 98 00:04:15,208 --> 00:04:17,500 trace it all the way back to the origin. 99 00:04:17,708 --> 00:04:18,958 It looks like we'll be coming back to this. 100 00:04:19,125 --> 00:04:20,250 You ready for that? 101 00:04:20,417 --> 00:04:21,167 We'll fight as long as we have to 102 00:04:21,333 --> 00:04:22,167 for you guys. 103 00:04:22,333 --> 00:04:23,792 We came here to do it, 104 00:04:23,917 --> 00:04:25,000 and I'll be damned if we don't finish it, so... 105 00:04:25,208 --> 00:04:26,000 TRAVIS: All right. 106 00:04:26,208 --> 00:04:27,333 We're gonna get there. 107 00:04:27,542 --> 00:04:28,167 This is awesome, guys. Thank you. 108 00:04:28,292 --> 00:04:29,542 Next summer, 109 00:04:29,708 --> 00:04:31,292 we're gonna get to the bottom of this. 110 00:04:32,500 --> 00:04:33,917 ERIK: Amen to that. 111 00:04:45,500 --> 00:04:46,875 BRANDON: All right, everyone. 112 00:04:47,042 --> 00:04:48,167 Welcome back. 113 00:04:48,333 --> 00:04:51,167 It's good to have our core team 114 00:04:51,375 --> 00:04:53,667 back together and joined by Brad Crispin, 115 00:04:53,875 --> 00:04:55,667 Ryan Graves, 116 00:04:55,875 --> 00:04:57,625 Jay Stratton. 117 00:04:57,833 --> 00:05:00,125 I'm anxious to see the data and get your eyes 118 00:05:00,292 --> 00:05:03,000 on what we've recently discovered. 119 00:05:03,167 --> 00:05:05,875 TRAVIS: A few days after we halted our operations 120 00:05:06,042 --> 00:05:07,208 for the year on the ranch, 121 00:05:07,375 --> 00:05:08,792 we gathered in Salt Lake City 122 00:05:08,875 --> 00:05:11,167 to meet with ranch owner Brandon Fugal 123 00:05:11,292 --> 00:05:13,500 and review all of our latest developments. 124 00:05:13,667 --> 00:05:16,667 And joining us were retired U.S. Intelligence official 125 00:05:16,750 --> 00:05:18,792 Jay Stratton, who helped oversee 126 00:05:18,917 --> 00:05:20,792 Robert Bigelow's ranch investigation 127 00:05:20,917 --> 00:05:22,667 more than a decade ago, 128 00:05:22,833 --> 00:05:26,333 as well as retired Navy pilot turned UAP whistleblower 129 00:05:26,542 --> 00:05:30,208 Ryan Graves and his business partner Brad Crispin. 130 00:05:30,375 --> 00:05:34,042 They now study the UAP phenomenon in the private sector 131 00:05:34,208 --> 00:05:37,875 with their organization called Americans for Safe Aerospace. 132 00:05:38,042 --> 00:05:39,667 These are historic times. 133 00:05:40,750 --> 00:05:43,000 As we all know, Skinwalker Ranch 134 00:05:43,167 --> 00:05:45,458 has become ground zero 135 00:05:45,667 --> 00:05:47,500 for not only studying the phenomena, 136 00:05:47,708 --> 00:05:51,000 but really the world's attention on these topics. 137 00:05:51,083 --> 00:05:52,458 JAY: Right. Having worked this topic 138 00:05:52,625 --> 00:05:54,083 so long for the U.S. government, 139 00:05:54,208 --> 00:05:55,708 I think the ranch 140 00:05:55,833 --> 00:05:58,458 and civilian research into the topic 141 00:05:58,625 --> 00:06:00,583 is going to break through. 142 00:06:00,708 --> 00:06:02,250 It's opening up so many minds. 143 00:06:02,458 --> 00:06:05,250 We're moving beyond the stigma to actual study. 144 00:06:05,417 --> 00:06:06,708 -Yes. -BRANDON: People don't like 145 00:06:06,875 --> 00:06:08,667 to have their paradigm 146 00:06:08,833 --> 00:06:12,167 completely turned upside down, but it's time. 147 00:06:12,333 --> 00:06:14,333 And I think this most recent experiment 148 00:06:14,417 --> 00:06:17,583 is arguably the most comprehensive 149 00:06:17,708 --> 00:06:19,500 scientific experiment of its kind 150 00:06:19,667 --> 00:06:21,667 at our own Skinwalker Ranch. 151 00:06:21,875 --> 00:06:25,833 I'd like to turn the time over to Erik to provide an overview 152 00:06:26,042 --> 00:06:29,542 and the data relative 153 00:06:29,750 --> 00:06:34,292 to this most recent dramatic experiment that has taken place. 154 00:06:34,458 --> 00:06:36,042 Well, I think you put it well. I mean, 155 00:06:36,208 --> 00:06:37,667 the experiments that we've done 156 00:06:37,875 --> 00:06:40,292 throughout this entire summer have been ambitious. 157 00:06:40,500 --> 00:06:43,125 Now, speaking to the most recent experiment, 158 00:06:43,333 --> 00:06:45,208 of course, in scope and scale. 159 00:06:45,417 --> 00:06:46,583 We're doing things in the sky above the ranch. 160 00:06:46,708 --> 00:06:48,083 We're doing things on the ground. 161 00:06:48,292 --> 00:06:49,417 We have a tremendous amount of data 162 00:06:49,583 --> 00:06:51,000 coming out of lidar surveys. 163 00:06:51,167 --> 00:06:53,750 TRAVIS: With this experiment, we deployed 164 00:06:53,958 --> 00:06:55,833 four different, uh, lidars running 165 00:06:56,042 --> 00:06:57,667 all at one time. 166 00:06:57,833 --> 00:07:00,292 So, we really covered the entire ranch with this experiment. 167 00:07:00,375 --> 00:07:02,792 We've gathered so much evidence 168 00:07:02,958 --> 00:07:04,500 these past few years that suggests 169 00:07:04,708 --> 00:07:07,292 the UAPs, strange energy signals 170 00:07:07,458 --> 00:07:09,958 and other phenomena we've detected on the ranch 171 00:07:10,042 --> 00:07:12,500 are caused by things we can't necessarily see 172 00:07:12,667 --> 00:07:13,583 with the naked eye. 173 00:07:13,708 --> 00:07:16,833 So, a few days ago, 174 00:07:17,042 --> 00:07:18,625 during our final experiment of the year... 175 00:07:19,875 --> 00:07:22,667 ...we had a mobile infrared lidar vehicle 176 00:07:22,792 --> 00:07:25,875 scanning back and forth across the entire property 177 00:07:26,042 --> 00:07:28,917 while Cameron Fugal flew his helicopter above it 178 00:07:29,125 --> 00:07:30,833 equipped with night vision technology 179 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:32,958 and specialty cameras. 180 00:07:33,167 --> 00:07:34,375 We had Kaleb Bench 181 00:07:34,500 --> 00:07:35,875 stationed in the east field 182 00:07:36,042 --> 00:07:38,250 with a handheld lidar SLAM scanner... 183 00:07:38,375 --> 00:07:39,708 Drone going up, Pete. 184 00:07:39,917 --> 00:07:42,375 TRAVIS: ...while Jim Royston of OmniTeq 185 00:07:42,542 --> 00:07:44,333 flew his lidar drone back and forth 186 00:07:44,542 --> 00:07:46,625 from the triangle to the mesa. 187 00:07:46,833 --> 00:07:49,417 And finally, technologist Pete Kelsey 188 00:07:49,583 --> 00:07:50,875 was scanning near the triangle 189 00:07:51,042 --> 00:07:53,167 with a terrestrial laser scanner. 190 00:07:53,333 --> 00:07:54,917 Can't wait to see that post-processed. 191 00:07:57,917 --> 00:08:00,625 TRAVIS: Earlier this year, using the same device, 192 00:08:00,792 --> 00:08:03,458 he detected a massive, cone-shaped anomaly 193 00:08:03,625 --> 00:08:06,000 that stretched from Homestead Two 194 00:08:06,167 --> 00:08:07,792 over to the east field 195 00:08:07,958 --> 00:08:10,042 and was centered right above the triangle 196 00:08:10,208 --> 00:08:11,667 nearly 2,000 feet high. 197 00:08:11,833 --> 00:08:14,667 So, we couldn't wait to see the processed data 198 00:08:14,833 --> 00:08:17,500 from these scans and find out if any of them 199 00:08:17,708 --> 00:08:19,750 would reveal what causes all the phenomena 200 00:08:19,958 --> 00:08:22,208 we keep seeing on Skinwalker Ranch. 201 00:08:22,375 --> 00:08:25,042 I know that Pete Kelsey is anxious to share 202 00:08:25,208 --> 00:08:28,083 the findings, uh, from those lidar surveys. 203 00:08:28,250 --> 00:08:29,625 We've got him on video call. 204 00:08:29,833 --> 00:08:32,542 I'd like to bring him up and have him share with us 205 00:08:32,750 --> 00:08:35,792 what he's found in his, uh, post-processing of the data. 206 00:08:38,250 --> 00:08:40,000 Hello, Pete. 207 00:08:40,125 --> 00:08:41,667 Hey, guys. 208 00:08:41,833 --> 00:08:43,625 Thanks for jumping on with us. 209 00:08:43,792 --> 00:08:45,042 But we're all in suspense. 210 00:08:45,208 --> 00:08:46,875 PETE: Sure. 211 00:08:47,042 --> 00:08:48,542 We'll go to 212 00:08:48,708 --> 00:08:51,333 the terrestrial laser scanning first. 213 00:08:51,500 --> 00:08:54,042 I don't think you're gonna be disappointed. 214 00:08:54,208 --> 00:08:56,750 And I'll just cut right to the chase. 215 00:08:58,417 --> 00:09:01,042 We've got data out to the northeast. 216 00:09:01,208 --> 00:09:04,042 And it's probably gonna look really familiar. 217 00:09:05,583 --> 00:09:06,875 TRAVIS: Yeah. 218 00:09:07,042 --> 00:09:09,875 Pete, I can see that there's structure 219 00:09:10,042 --> 00:09:11,583 all around. 220 00:09:11,792 --> 00:09:14,042 You can see lines off in the distance 221 00:09:14,208 --> 00:09:16,167 that go all the way around the triangle. 222 00:09:19,458 --> 00:09:22,167 So, Pete, do those lines appear 223 00:09:22,333 --> 00:09:23,667 looking straight up? 224 00:09:26,875 --> 00:09:29,208 PETE: Travis, this is looking straight up 225 00:09:29,417 --> 00:09:31,667 from that terrestrial laser scan. 226 00:09:31,833 --> 00:09:33,000 TRAVIS: Oh, my goodness. 227 00:09:33,208 --> 00:09:34,708 So... 228 00:09:34,875 --> 00:09:36,708 what we're seeing now 229 00:09:36,875 --> 00:09:39,458 is the same data that we got from the data set 230 00:09:39,583 --> 00:09:41,292 prior to this that suggests 231 00:09:41,417 --> 00:09:43,292 there's an invisible cone 232 00:09:43,375 --> 00:09:46,792 surrounding the triangle that the lidar is perceiving. 233 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:48,208 Correct. 234 00:09:48,375 --> 00:09:49,500 Wow. 235 00:09:49,667 --> 00:09:51,458 PETE: Yes, and now we've 236 00:09:51,667 --> 00:09:52,667 seen it twice. 237 00:09:52,875 --> 00:09:54,167 Wow. 238 00:09:54,292 --> 00:09:56,083 That... I mean, that's key. 239 00:09:56,250 --> 00:09:58,208 TRAVIS: A lot like, uh, 240 00:09:58,375 --> 00:10:00,333 some invisible barrier. 241 00:10:00,500 --> 00:10:01,958 -Or field. -TRAVIS: Yeah. 242 00:10:02,083 --> 00:10:04,583 Some type of... maybe a force field over the ranch. 243 00:10:04,750 --> 00:10:08,083 So, what in the world are we seeing here? 244 00:10:09,792 --> 00:10:11,208 Earlier this year... 245 00:10:12,708 --> 00:10:15,167 ...when we first detected the huge cone, 246 00:10:15,333 --> 00:10:18,500 a laser beam that was projected straight up from the triangle 247 00:10:18,667 --> 00:10:22,083 was stopped by something that we couldn't see 248 00:10:22,208 --> 00:10:24,083 2,000 feet in the air. 249 00:10:24,250 --> 00:10:26,375 CHRIS: You really don't see that unless it's hitting 250 00:10:26,500 --> 00:10:28,167 some sort of mass. 251 00:10:28,292 --> 00:10:30,000 TRAVIS: The same exact height of the cone. 252 00:10:31,500 --> 00:10:33,333 So, Brandon's suggestion of it being 253 00:10:33,542 --> 00:10:35,750 some kind of force field isn't crazy. 254 00:10:35,917 --> 00:10:38,333 But since we don't have that technology, 255 00:10:38,542 --> 00:10:40,583 then what the hell could it be? 256 00:10:41,583 --> 00:10:42,792 It really makes me wonder 257 00:10:42,958 --> 00:10:44,417 are we a part of an experiment? 258 00:10:44,625 --> 00:10:47,000 You know, from someone or something? 259 00:10:47,208 --> 00:10:48,292 Yes, it does. 260 00:10:48,500 --> 00:10:49,708 -That's a good question. -(soft chatter) 261 00:10:49,833 --> 00:10:51,917 TRAVIS: All right. What else you got, Pete? 262 00:10:52,083 --> 00:10:53,417 PETE: So, 263 00:10:53,583 --> 00:10:55,667 this is the first look at the mobile lidar 264 00:10:55,792 --> 00:10:58,333 SUV that scanned 265 00:10:58,542 --> 00:11:01,833 back and forth from the east field. 266 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,500 It's well over 100 gigabytes of data. 267 00:11:05,708 --> 00:11:08,125 I have not had as much time 268 00:11:08,292 --> 00:11:10,292 as I would like to go through all this data. 269 00:11:10,417 --> 00:11:14,375 But I want to show you a few interesting things. 270 00:11:15,417 --> 00:11:17,833 Can you see this yellow and red point cloud? 271 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:19,833 -ERIK: Yes. -Yes, we can. 272 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,917 PETE: Okay, so, 273 00:11:22,042 --> 00:11:24,417 see these right here in the sky? 274 00:11:24,583 --> 00:11:26,667 ERIK: Yup. 275 00:11:26,833 --> 00:11:28,583 TRAVIS: Oh, yeah! 276 00:11:28,750 --> 00:11:31,458 That's looking back toward the photogrammetry anomaly 277 00:11:31,625 --> 00:11:34,458 that we saw two years ago. 278 00:11:34,583 --> 00:11:36,500 PETE: Exactly. 279 00:11:36,625 --> 00:11:39,333 Once again, to the northeast, 280 00:11:39,458 --> 00:11:41,250 to the east field, 281 00:11:41,417 --> 00:11:43,292 there's data that 282 00:11:43,458 --> 00:11:44,375 frankly shouldn't be there. 283 00:11:46,833 --> 00:11:49,000 ERIK: Oh, wow. 284 00:11:53,958 --> 00:11:55,458 -Yup. -ERIK: Yes. -TRAVIS: Oh, yeah! 285 00:11:55,625 --> 00:11:58,458 That's looking back toward the photogrammetry anomaly. 286 00:11:58,625 --> 00:12:00,208 PETE: Exactly. 287 00:12:00,375 --> 00:12:03,250 There's data that, frankly, shouldn't be there. 288 00:12:03,417 --> 00:12:05,208 TRAVIS: How about that. 289 00:12:06,542 --> 00:12:08,583 So, now we're getting data 290 00:12:08,708 --> 00:12:10,667 from multiple sensors 291 00:12:10,792 --> 00:12:13,583 and witness, uh, experiments. 292 00:12:13,708 --> 00:12:14,833 That's right. 293 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:16,917 Wow. 294 00:12:17,042 --> 00:12:20,333 TRAVIS: We really hoped that our final experiment of the year 295 00:12:20,458 --> 00:12:23,792 would get us more data on the wild phenomena we've seen. 296 00:12:23,958 --> 00:12:25,750 And, man, did it ever. 297 00:12:25,917 --> 00:12:27,917 Using multiple lidar scanners, 298 00:12:28,125 --> 00:12:30,125 we not only detected more evidence 299 00:12:30,292 --> 00:12:31,833 of a 2,000-foot-high, 300 00:12:32,042 --> 00:12:34,458 cone-shaped anomaly covering a huge area 301 00:12:34,542 --> 00:12:37,083 in the center of Skinwalker Ranch, 302 00:12:37,250 --> 00:12:41,333 but our mobile lidar vehicle also captured images 303 00:12:41,500 --> 00:12:43,042 of something in the east field, 304 00:12:43,208 --> 00:12:47,000 right in the area where a 300-foot-tall, 305 00:12:47,167 --> 00:12:51,333 column-shaped spire was detected by Pete Kelsey in 2021. 306 00:12:51,542 --> 00:12:52,875 So, was it the same thing? 307 00:12:53,042 --> 00:12:55,583 If so, what the heck could it be? 308 00:12:55,708 --> 00:12:57,958 So... 309 00:12:58,125 --> 00:13:00,625 there is potentially some correlation 310 00:13:00,792 --> 00:13:03,333 with some data that we're seeing at the same time. 311 00:13:03,542 --> 00:13:05,833 -From your lidar drone? -ROYSTON: Yup. Same area. 312 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,042 -Erik has a bunch of the data. -Yeah. 313 00:13:09,125 --> 00:13:10,750 ERIK: What you're looking at here on the screen 314 00:13:10,917 --> 00:13:14,458 is some data that was collected in real time 315 00:13:14,625 --> 00:13:16,625 using a GPS tracking unit, 316 00:13:16,792 --> 00:13:18,667 as Jim was flying his lidar-enabled drone 317 00:13:18,875 --> 00:13:20,375 through a pattern 318 00:13:20,542 --> 00:13:22,750 that we sometimes refer to as the "in-and-out pattern." 319 00:13:22,917 --> 00:13:24,833 Based on that video footage 320 00:13:25,042 --> 00:13:26,542 that we saw last year from the helicopter, 321 00:13:26,708 --> 00:13:29,833 where it appeared that something went into the mesa over here, 322 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,917 and came out of the mesa over in this area. 323 00:13:35,042 --> 00:13:36,917 TRAVIS: One of the most insane events 324 00:13:37,083 --> 00:13:39,917 that our team has documented was in 2022. 325 00:13:40,083 --> 00:13:44,083 A camera on the helicopter captured images of a UAP 326 00:13:44,292 --> 00:13:48,250 flying into the mesa in the east field, 327 00:13:48,417 --> 00:13:51,333 and then out the other side a couple seconds later 328 00:13:51,500 --> 00:13:54,292 as it continued right toward the triangle. 329 00:13:55,250 --> 00:13:59,208 Since then, Jim Royston has flown his lidar drone along 330 00:13:59,333 --> 00:14:02,208 that so-called "in-and-out path" numerous times, 331 00:14:02,375 --> 00:14:04,833 and repeatedly experienced strange voids 332 00:14:05,042 --> 00:14:06,958 in his aerial GPS data, 333 00:14:07,083 --> 00:14:10,875 just like the drone was momentarily disappearing. 334 00:14:11,042 --> 00:14:13,833 We've retraced that pathway as best we can 335 00:14:14,042 --> 00:14:16,708 without, obviously, flying through the mesa itself. 336 00:14:16,875 --> 00:14:18,750 But, uh, through that airspace at an altitude 337 00:14:18,917 --> 00:14:20,875 of about 300 feet above ground level. 338 00:14:21,042 --> 00:14:22,667 And what you see here, 339 00:14:22,833 --> 00:14:25,250 there's this gap in the data right here. 340 00:14:25,417 --> 00:14:27,750 -TRAVIS: Down by the "in" point? -ERIK: Yes. 341 00:14:27,917 --> 00:14:29,583 TRAVIS: So, it happened again the other night? 342 00:14:29,708 --> 00:14:31,542 Exactly. 343 00:14:31,708 --> 00:14:34,708 ROYSTON: And I think what's important is the repeatability. 344 00:14:34,875 --> 00:14:37,083 Because this wasn't one case you're looking at. 345 00:14:37,250 --> 00:14:40,375 Multiple times, as we come through that area, 346 00:14:40,542 --> 00:14:42,333 we lose the GPS. 347 00:14:42,500 --> 00:14:45,583 And probably 40 flights over the whole summer 348 00:14:45,750 --> 00:14:47,000 -that we did. -At least, right? 349 00:14:47,208 --> 00:14:48,750 Yes, we have. These are... these are 40 350 00:14:48,917 --> 00:14:51,833 instrumented drone flights where, at the very least, 351 00:14:52,042 --> 00:14:54,083 we have a GPS sensor that goes silent. 352 00:14:54,208 --> 00:14:56,292 And the interesting thing, I think, 353 00:14:56,417 --> 00:14:58,125 -the best way-- -TRAVIS: Is to overlay 'em, right? 354 00:14:58,292 --> 00:15:01,208 Yup. Wait till you see this. 355 00:15:03,542 --> 00:15:08,167 I have a few of those drone flights illustrated here. 356 00:15:08,333 --> 00:15:09,667 And look at the pattern that emerges. 357 00:15:09,833 --> 00:15:11,083 BRANDON: Stunning. 358 00:15:11,208 --> 00:15:13,583 ERIK: Here's a wonderful example 359 00:15:13,750 --> 00:15:16,500 where we see repeatability. 360 00:15:16,708 --> 00:15:18,625 You know, what we're seeing here 361 00:15:18,792 --> 00:15:21,333 are repeated interruptions in data. 362 00:15:21,500 --> 00:15:23,583 The biggest of which is over at the "in" point. 363 00:15:23,750 --> 00:15:26,083 TRAVIS: Yeah, and that's very close 364 00:15:26,250 --> 00:15:28,542 to the anomaly area that we saw in the lidar data. 365 00:15:28,708 --> 00:15:30,417 -PETER: Right. -Yeah. 366 00:15:30,583 --> 00:15:32,042 Wow. 367 00:15:32,958 --> 00:15:34,667 TRAVIS: The mobile lidar data 368 00:15:34,833 --> 00:15:37,000 which captured possible new evidence 369 00:15:37,125 --> 00:15:40,125 of the 300-foot-tall column-shaped anomaly 370 00:15:40,292 --> 00:15:43,625 was right in line with the so-called in-and-out path 371 00:15:43,792 --> 00:15:45,792 the UAP took through the mesa. 372 00:15:45,875 --> 00:15:48,625 So, could the column we previously detected 373 00:15:48,792 --> 00:15:50,375 in the east field be 374 00:15:50,542 --> 00:15:53,292 what has also been blocking the GPS sensor 375 00:15:53,458 --> 00:15:56,833 on Jim Royston's drone during all those flights? 376 00:15:56,958 --> 00:15:58,417 You know, again and again, 377 00:15:58,542 --> 00:16:00,458 we keep seeing things right over there 378 00:16:00,583 --> 00:16:02,667 where he's showing us these anomalous points. 379 00:16:02,833 --> 00:16:04,417 TRAVIS: Oh, at drone-ageddon, 380 00:16:04,583 --> 00:16:06,958 we had drones falling out of the sky right there at that point. 381 00:16:07,083 --> 00:16:10,167 -ERIK: Right there. -And-and rockets disappearing. 382 00:16:11,708 --> 00:16:13,042 KC: Here we go. 383 00:16:13,167 --> 00:16:14,250 TRAVIS: Two weeks ago, we launched 384 00:16:14,417 --> 00:16:16,792 illuminated drone swarms in order 385 00:16:16,917 --> 00:16:20,000 to simultaneously probe the airspace above the triangle 386 00:16:20,167 --> 00:16:22,083 and the east field. 387 00:16:22,208 --> 00:16:24,792 And just after a UAP appeared above the mesa... 388 00:16:24,917 --> 00:16:26,667 THOMAS: Whoa! 389 00:16:26,833 --> 00:16:28,833 It's raining drones over here! 390 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:30,500 TRAVIS: ...all hell broke loose... 391 00:16:30,708 --> 00:16:32,917 -Oh! -Holy mackerel. 392 00:16:33,083 --> 00:16:35,417 TRAVIS: We got drones dropping like crazy. 393 00:16:35,583 --> 00:16:38,167 ...as hundreds of the drones at both locations 394 00:16:38,333 --> 00:16:40,708 just started falling out of the sky. 395 00:16:40,875 --> 00:16:42,042 Oh, my God. 396 00:16:42,208 --> 00:16:43,958 TRAVIS: It was like 397 00:16:44,167 --> 00:16:45,417 something on the ranch had taken control of them. 398 00:16:45,583 --> 00:16:48,333 And then, right after we launched a rocket 399 00:16:48,542 --> 00:16:51,333 to see if we could hit whatever it was up there, 400 00:16:51,500 --> 00:16:55,167 the rocket disappeared for a split second. 401 00:16:55,250 --> 00:16:58,167 Could the column-shaped anomaly be what blocked our view 402 00:16:58,333 --> 00:17:01,542 of the rocket and caused all the chaos during the experiment? 403 00:17:01,708 --> 00:17:04,875 And could it also be connected to all the GPS voids 404 00:17:05,042 --> 00:17:06,708 we've repeatedly detected? 405 00:17:06,833 --> 00:17:09,458 I think we might be getting close to figuring this out. 406 00:17:09,625 --> 00:17:11,750 ERIK: I mean, given the environment that we're in, 407 00:17:11,875 --> 00:17:13,500 you know, whatever it is we're seeing, 408 00:17:13,667 --> 00:17:15,583 it seems unnatural. 409 00:17:15,750 --> 00:17:17,625 -Yup. -PETE: Yeah, well, 410 00:17:17,792 --> 00:17:20,583 hopefully, there's a lot more to come, because, 411 00:17:20,750 --> 00:17:22,917 as I say, we're just at the tip of the iceberg 412 00:17:23,125 --> 00:17:25,417 of diving into all this mobile lidar data. 413 00:17:25,542 --> 00:17:27,958 So, more to come. 414 00:17:28,125 --> 00:17:30,958 Well, Pete, you know, already, I'm sure you can tell 415 00:17:31,125 --> 00:17:32,458 from the discussion around the table, 416 00:17:32,625 --> 00:17:34,667 as usual, you've given us a lot to think about. 417 00:17:34,875 --> 00:17:37,125 Um, dare I ask 418 00:17:37,292 --> 00:17:40,333 if you found anything else anomalous 419 00:17:40,542 --> 00:17:43,625 in those scans that were performed on your lidar systems? 420 00:17:43,792 --> 00:17:46,667 Uh, yes, we have. 421 00:17:46,875 --> 00:17:48,833 And this time, 422 00:17:48,958 --> 00:17:51,500 in the east field, as a result from 423 00:17:51,667 --> 00:17:54,833 the SLAM scanner, which Kaleb was running. So, 424 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:56,583 have a look at this. 425 00:17:58,708 --> 00:18:01,333 TRAVIS: Why are there data points underneath the surface? 426 00:18:01,500 --> 00:18:05,792 PETE: Exactly. That is impossible. 427 00:18:05,917 --> 00:18:08,292 Lidar can't see through the ground. 428 00:18:10,542 --> 00:18:12,167 TRAVIS: The lidar system we're using 429 00:18:12,292 --> 00:18:14,250 is infrared light technology 430 00:18:14,375 --> 00:18:17,000 designed to produce a 3D image of the environment, 431 00:18:17,167 --> 00:18:18,667 as well as things 432 00:18:18,833 --> 00:18:20,625 that aren't necessarily visible to the naked eye. 433 00:18:20,750 --> 00:18:24,125 But it's not supposed to be able to see through the ground. 434 00:18:24,250 --> 00:18:26,000 And like Pete said, 435 00:18:26,125 --> 00:18:28,625 this is the second time we've seen this happen. 436 00:18:28,792 --> 00:18:30,667 Earlier this year, 437 00:18:30,792 --> 00:18:32,833 he detected a mysterious ring of data 438 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,042 directly below the triangle, 439 00:18:35,250 --> 00:18:37,417 which lined up perfectly 440 00:18:37,583 --> 00:18:40,208 with two different ring-shaped anomalies 441 00:18:40,375 --> 00:18:43,500 that Jim Royston previously detected on the ground 442 00:18:43,667 --> 00:18:45,667 and in the air above the triangle. 443 00:18:45,833 --> 00:18:47,458 Taken together, 444 00:18:47,583 --> 00:18:50,292 those anomalies resembled the physical structure 445 00:18:50,417 --> 00:18:52,333 of what scientists have theorized 446 00:18:52,500 --> 00:18:56,167 a traversable wormhole or portal might look like. 447 00:18:56,333 --> 00:18:59,083 Now, we don't know if that's what could be at the triangle. 448 00:18:59,208 --> 00:19:00,792 But it made me really curious 449 00:19:00,958 --> 00:19:03,875 to see the rest of the data Pete captured in the east field. 450 00:19:04,042 --> 00:19:06,667 PETE: I have one other view of it I can show you. 451 00:19:06,833 --> 00:19:08,708 Right there. 452 00:19:09,667 --> 00:19:13,083 Okay? Now, we've seen that before, 453 00:19:13,250 --> 00:19:15,917 but what's unique about this one 454 00:19:16,042 --> 00:19:20,625 is that the anomalous data 455 00:19:20,792 --> 00:19:27,250 that's underground corresponds to anomalous data in the sky. 456 00:19:28,917 --> 00:19:32,000 It has utterly astonished me. 457 00:19:32,167 --> 00:19:33,042 I don't know what to make of it. 458 00:19:33,208 --> 00:19:36,250 ERIK: That is amazing. 459 00:19:36,375 --> 00:19:39,250 I mean, the textbook definition of anomalous. 460 00:19:48,083 --> 00:19:49,667 KALEB: Wow. 461 00:19:49,958 --> 00:19:51,542 Is this a sphere? 462 00:19:51,708 --> 00:19:56,125 It just has utterly astonished me. 463 00:19:56,250 --> 00:19:58,250 I don't know what to make of it. 464 00:19:58,417 --> 00:20:00,208 TRAVIS: That's amazing. 465 00:20:00,417 --> 00:20:03,000 I mean, look how far underground that is. 466 00:20:03,167 --> 00:20:05,000 PETE: And notice how 467 00:20:05,208 --> 00:20:08,542 the returns in the sky correspond 468 00:20:08,708 --> 00:20:11,333 in a circular shape 469 00:20:11,458 --> 00:20:13,542 to the returns underground. 470 00:20:13,708 --> 00:20:15,417 I mean, this is nuts. 471 00:20:15,542 --> 00:20:17,333 TRAVIS: So, what you're saying 472 00:20:17,500 --> 00:20:20,500 here is we have sort of a donut 473 00:20:20,708 --> 00:20:23,958 above the ground and below the ground of odd data points. 474 00:20:24,083 --> 00:20:25,292 Yes. 475 00:20:25,458 --> 00:20:26,833 TRAVIS: Just like what we found 476 00:20:26,958 --> 00:20:28,000 at the triangle. 477 00:20:28,208 --> 00:20:30,333 We've been trying 478 00:20:30,542 --> 00:20:33,083 to figure out how the triangle and the east field 479 00:20:33,250 --> 00:20:35,500 on Skinwalker Ranch might be connected, 480 00:20:35,667 --> 00:20:37,167 based on a lot of the phenomena 481 00:20:37,375 --> 00:20:39,333 we've seen between those two locations. 482 00:20:39,500 --> 00:20:42,958 And this experiment may have revealed a major clue. 483 00:20:43,167 --> 00:20:47,625 Using Pete Kelsey's handheld SLAM scanner lidar device, 484 00:20:47,792 --> 00:20:50,250 Kaleb detected ring-shaped anomalies 485 00:20:50,417 --> 00:20:54,000 both below and above ground in the east field. 486 00:20:54,167 --> 00:20:57,792 And this is exactly what we've detected at the triangle. 487 00:20:57,958 --> 00:21:00,667 Are these, in fact, two separate anomalies? 488 00:21:00,875 --> 00:21:03,625 Or could it be something that moves around 489 00:21:03,833 --> 00:21:07,083 within the massive, cone-shaped phenomena that we've detected 490 00:21:07,208 --> 00:21:09,833 and encompasses both locations? 491 00:21:09,958 --> 00:21:13,667 The more of this stuff I see, the less I understand it. 492 00:21:13,833 --> 00:21:16,292 TRAVIS: Wow. 493 00:21:16,500 --> 00:21:18,958 Well, and how would that be connected to the UFOs? 494 00:21:19,083 --> 00:21:21,125 To the unidentified aerial phenomena 495 00:21:21,333 --> 00:21:23,458 that we've captured on camera, 496 00:21:23,583 --> 00:21:25,500 and seen, even with our own eyes? 497 00:21:25,625 --> 00:21:28,667 Is there some type of interstellar 498 00:21:28,792 --> 00:21:31,542 portal or some other 499 00:21:31,708 --> 00:21:33,292 -phenomena happening? -TRAVIS: Well, if there's 500 00:21:33,458 --> 00:21:35,292 a "doorway" there, a portal, 501 00:21:35,417 --> 00:21:37,375 a wormhole, whatever you want, 502 00:21:37,500 --> 00:21:39,542 it's got to be designed in a way that's 503 00:21:39,708 --> 00:21:42,083 not destroying everything around us, clearly, 504 00:21:42,250 --> 00:21:43,417 so it's more advanced than 505 00:21:43,583 --> 00:21:45,458 the physics we have right now. 506 00:21:45,625 --> 00:21:49,333 But in order to make the doorway transition into 507 00:21:49,542 --> 00:21:53,167 normal space, you would have bends in space and time. 508 00:21:53,375 --> 00:21:55,792 And we did measure a time anomaly 509 00:21:55,917 --> 00:21:57,042 above the triangle 510 00:21:57,208 --> 00:21:58,917 -with Lunasonde last year. -Yeah. 511 00:21:59,083 --> 00:22:00,292 Yeah. 512 00:22:01,458 --> 00:22:03,375 CLAYTON: Go for launch. 513 00:22:04,625 --> 00:22:07,458 -KIM: Off it goes. -TRAVIS: In 2022, 514 00:22:07,583 --> 00:22:10,125 a company called Lunasonde conducted a radar scan 515 00:22:10,333 --> 00:22:12,333 using a weather ballon more than 10,000 feet 516 00:22:12,542 --> 00:22:15,708 above the triangle, and got stunning results. 517 00:22:25,958 --> 00:22:27,167 TRAVIS: Really. 518 00:22:27,250 --> 00:22:29,000 For data like this, that's huge. 519 00:22:29,125 --> 00:22:30,500 Exactly. 520 00:22:30,708 --> 00:22:34,333 According to scientists such as Albert Einstein, 521 00:22:34,458 --> 00:22:36,833 portal-like phenomena would not only resemble 522 00:22:36,958 --> 00:22:39,667 the ring-like anomalies we've detected on the ranch, 523 00:22:39,875 --> 00:22:42,750 but could also create instantaneous shifts in time. 524 00:22:42,917 --> 00:22:46,500 So, could something like a portal or wormhole 525 00:22:46,667 --> 00:22:50,417 explain the cone and the ring-like anomalies? 526 00:22:51,458 --> 00:22:54,583 Is that why we've detected voids in our GPS scans? 527 00:22:55,583 --> 00:22:58,375 And could that explain how a UAP could fly 528 00:22:58,542 --> 00:23:01,625 through a mesa that is composed of solid rock? 529 00:23:03,208 --> 00:23:04,833 I don't know, 530 00:23:05,042 --> 00:23:07,083 but this is all incredible data. 531 00:23:07,250 --> 00:23:09,542 This is frontier science discovery. 532 00:23:09,750 --> 00:23:11,083 TRAVIS: Wow. 533 00:23:11,208 --> 00:23:13,417 So, we have so much data, 534 00:23:13,625 --> 00:23:15,125 it's going to be weeks and months 535 00:23:15,292 --> 00:23:17,000 of analyzing this data, Erik. 536 00:23:17,208 --> 00:23:19,542 ERIK: Yeah. You better believe 537 00:23:19,708 --> 00:23:21,333 I'm going to dive into this. 538 00:23:21,500 --> 00:23:22,667 You know, with Pete's help, I think we're going to 539 00:23:22,833 --> 00:23:25,958 be able to peel back these very different 540 00:23:26,125 --> 00:23:27,875 layers that we're seeing. 541 00:23:28,042 --> 00:23:30,542 You know, the above ground, the below ground, and I'm sure 542 00:23:30,708 --> 00:23:31,500 we'll be coming back to the table to talk about 543 00:23:31,625 --> 00:23:32,875 more results like this. 544 00:23:33,042 --> 00:23:34,917 Yep, I agree. 545 00:23:35,125 --> 00:23:36,500 Well, Pete, I can't thank you enough, as usual. 546 00:23:36,708 --> 00:23:38,000 You've blown all of our minds. 547 00:23:38,208 --> 00:23:39,792 I look forward to connecting again. 548 00:23:39,958 --> 00:23:41,792 Thanks for spending some time with us here in the meeting. 549 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,167 Yeah, uh, likewise. Thank you, guys. 550 00:23:45,333 --> 00:23:47,292 -Thanks, Pete. -Thanks again, Pete. 551 00:23:47,417 --> 00:23:48,500 Bye, Pete. 552 00:23:48,667 --> 00:23:50,333 ERIK: Well, certainly, guys, 553 00:23:50,500 --> 00:23:51,667 a key component of the experiment, 554 00:23:51,875 --> 00:23:53,042 this large-scale experiment that we did 555 00:23:53,208 --> 00:23:55,167 was, uh, the work that we did with 556 00:23:55,375 --> 00:23:56,333 the helicopter flight, 557 00:23:56,500 --> 00:23:58,167 so this is following your flight 558 00:23:58,375 --> 00:24:00,917 -directly above the triangle. -Yeah. 559 00:24:01,042 --> 00:24:03,167 ERIK: This is actually night vision goggle footage. 560 00:24:03,375 --> 00:24:06,958 CAMERON: This is my perspective flying over the ranch at night. 561 00:24:07,083 --> 00:24:08,250 This is interesting. 562 00:24:08,458 --> 00:24:09,542 So, I'm going to play this through 563 00:24:09,708 --> 00:24:11,958 at its, uh, normal speed. 564 00:24:14,708 --> 00:24:16,667 TRAVIS: Oh, there was something. What was that? 565 00:24:16,833 --> 00:24:18,417 ERIK: What did we just see? 566 00:24:18,542 --> 00:24:19,500 Yeah, something came through 567 00:24:19,625 --> 00:24:21,458 the screen, that's for sure. 568 00:24:21,583 --> 00:24:23,000 What flew by here was not a bird, 569 00:24:23,167 --> 00:24:24,667 and it was also at 570 00:24:24,875 --> 00:24:27,000 5,000 feet AGL, which there's not 571 00:24:27,125 --> 00:24:28,750 anything up there in the middle of the night flying. 572 00:24:28,917 --> 00:24:29,917 It's not going to be a bug or a bird. 573 00:24:30,083 --> 00:24:31,083 No. 574 00:24:32,292 --> 00:24:34,458 ERIK: I have to freeze it 575 00:24:34,625 --> 00:24:36,125 and play it through with frame advance 576 00:24:36,208 --> 00:24:37,583 because it is so fast. 577 00:24:37,750 --> 00:24:39,667 And it's only there for a split second. 578 00:24:39,875 --> 00:24:40,833 Okay. 579 00:24:40,958 --> 00:24:43,458 ERIK: As I'm looking at this thing, 580 00:24:43,625 --> 00:24:45,500 you know, it's really hard to make out 581 00:24:45,708 --> 00:24:46,917 any kind of structure. 582 00:24:47,083 --> 00:24:48,500 If I had to guess what the shape of 583 00:24:48,625 --> 00:24:50,375 this thing was... 584 00:24:50,542 --> 00:24:52,542 -TRAVIS: Maybe spherical? -A sphere. Yeah. 585 00:24:52,708 --> 00:24:54,958 KALEB: And it's at the same altitude 586 00:24:55,083 --> 00:24:56,833 that we were at last year 587 00:24:57,042 --> 00:24:59,333 when you reported seeing those other objects. 588 00:24:59,500 --> 00:25:01,083 That's right. 589 00:25:07,875 --> 00:25:11,167 TRAVIS: In 2022, Cameron flew Brandon, Kaleb 590 00:25:11,292 --> 00:25:13,750 and Erik nearly a mile high 591 00:25:13,875 --> 00:25:16,042 to collect data above the triangle, and through his 592 00:25:16,208 --> 00:25:18,792 night vision goggles, Cameron saw several UAPs 593 00:25:18,958 --> 00:25:22,500 similar to the ones he saw the other night. 594 00:25:22,708 --> 00:25:25,250 So, what in the world are these things? 595 00:25:25,375 --> 00:25:26,625 Where do they come from, 596 00:25:26,792 --> 00:25:29,125 and then, where do they go? 597 00:25:30,167 --> 00:25:32,917 THOMAS: I've been pouring over video footage 598 00:25:33,083 --> 00:25:34,500 from those cameras that were mounted 599 00:25:34,667 --> 00:25:35,875 directly under the helicopter. 600 00:25:36,042 --> 00:25:37,333 Yeah. 601 00:25:37,542 --> 00:25:38,667 So, one of those cameras, as you know, 602 00:25:38,875 --> 00:25:40,625 was pointed directly straight down the ground. 603 00:25:40,792 --> 00:25:42,292 Mm-hmm. 604 00:25:42,458 --> 00:25:43,833 We've got one clip in particular 605 00:25:43,958 --> 00:25:45,083 I think you guys are going to find interesting, 606 00:25:45,250 --> 00:25:46,375 coming from the bottom of 607 00:25:46,542 --> 00:25:47,625 -the helicopter camera. -Okay. 608 00:25:47,792 --> 00:25:49,333 -Um... -Want me to bring that up? 609 00:25:49,542 --> 00:25:50,958 THOMAS: Yeah. 610 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,000 There's something that happens here near center screen. 611 00:25:57,875 --> 00:25:59,708 TRAVIS: Oh, yeah. Right there. 612 00:25:59,875 --> 00:26:02,583 Can you adjust the contrast on that area? 613 00:26:02,750 --> 00:26:04,083 ERIK: I-I can, that's a good idea. 614 00:26:04,250 --> 00:26:05,458 So, to give you a reference of where we're at here, 615 00:26:05,625 --> 00:26:06,833 you can see the triangle 616 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,833 on the right-hand side of the screen. 617 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,875 -TRAVIS: Oh, yeah, you can see the river. -CAMERON: Yeah. 618 00:26:12,042 --> 00:26:13,500 TRAVIS: You see the river snaking across there? 619 00:26:13,708 --> 00:26:14,708 CAMERON: Exactly. 620 00:26:14,875 --> 00:26:17,167 And watch what happens. 621 00:26:18,708 --> 00:26:21,458 -TRAVIS: Oh. -BRANDON: What the hell? 622 00:26:21,625 --> 00:26:22,833 TRAVIS: There's a light 623 00:26:23,042 --> 00:26:24,417 right in the middle of the river... 624 00:26:24,542 --> 00:26:26,000 -Oh, wow. -Ouch. 625 00:26:26,208 --> 00:26:27,042 TRAVIS: ...another place where we've seen 626 00:26:27,208 --> 00:26:28,958 a ton of crazy things. 627 00:26:29,083 --> 00:26:30,542 What? 628 00:26:37,375 --> 00:26:39,333 TRAVIS: Yeah, what is that? 629 00:26:39,500 --> 00:26:42,542 BRYANT: Right in the river. I mean, that's so bizarre. 630 00:26:42,750 --> 00:26:43,792 I'll increase the magnification. 631 00:26:43,958 --> 00:26:46,083 TRAVIS: Oh, that's a good idea. 632 00:26:47,333 --> 00:26:49,833 What could that be? 633 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,167 TRAVIS: During our ranch-wide experiment a few nights ago, 634 00:26:52,375 --> 00:26:54,000 just as Cameron Fugal saw 635 00:26:54,167 --> 00:26:56,875 several orb-like UAPs about 5,000 feet 636 00:26:57,042 --> 00:26:59,750 above the triangle from inside of his helicopter, 637 00:26:59,917 --> 00:27:02,750 a camera mounted to the bottom of the chopper 638 00:27:02,917 --> 00:27:06,417 caught video of a strange light in Dry Gulch Creek, 639 00:27:06,542 --> 00:27:09,542 which runs through the south field of Skinwalker Ranch. 640 00:27:09,708 --> 00:27:12,250 And not just anywhere in the river, but, uh, 641 00:27:12,417 --> 00:27:14,167 I think that this spot in the river 642 00:27:14,333 --> 00:27:18,167 has special significance based on our excursion down the river. 643 00:27:18,333 --> 00:27:20,750 That's where we had the dead zone in the equipment, 644 00:27:20,917 --> 00:27:23,792 -and-and... all of that. -TRAVIS: That's right. 645 00:27:23,958 --> 00:27:25,750 THOMAS: Remember the Russian olive? 646 00:27:25,875 --> 00:27:27,625 -The tree, yeah. -BRYANT: It's not too far from there 647 00:27:27,750 --> 00:27:29,833 that, you know, I have to keep going back to 648 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,667 one of the strangest things that we've found, 649 00:27:31,833 --> 00:27:34,417 that wolf creature that was described as 650 00:27:34,583 --> 00:27:37,167 a possibility of an ancient dire wolf or something like that. 651 00:27:37,375 --> 00:27:39,250 That's not very far around the bend from there. 652 00:27:39,417 --> 00:27:40,625 No, it's not. 653 00:27:41,750 --> 00:27:43,333 TRAVIS: Over the last couple of years, 654 00:27:43,542 --> 00:27:46,167 we've seen a number of strange things in the south field, 655 00:27:46,333 --> 00:27:49,500 including the mutilated carcasses of deer, 656 00:27:49,708 --> 00:27:52,625 a post with very odd charring on it 657 00:27:52,792 --> 00:27:56,167 and even an image of a silver orb-like UAP. 658 00:27:57,292 --> 00:28:01,417 So, earlier this year, we put GPS devices in a kayak 659 00:28:01,583 --> 00:28:03,083 and walked it down Dry Gulch Creek 660 00:28:03,208 --> 00:28:05,958 to see what else we might find in that area. 661 00:28:06,083 --> 00:28:07,917 According to the GPS, you're at 662 00:28:08,042 --> 00:28:10,625 5,000 feet underground. 663 00:28:10,792 --> 00:28:13,000 That's crazy, man. 664 00:28:13,083 --> 00:28:16,458 It was worth it, because we not only collected GPS data 665 00:28:16,625 --> 00:28:17,917 that showed the kayak appearing to go 666 00:28:18,083 --> 00:28:19,958 thousands of feet underground... 667 00:28:20,125 --> 00:28:21,792 THOMAS: Look at this tree right here. 668 00:28:21,958 --> 00:28:23,125 TRAVIS: ...but we also discovered 669 00:28:23,333 --> 00:28:24,708 a Russian olive tree 670 00:28:24,875 --> 00:28:27,208 with burns that were very similar to those 671 00:28:27,375 --> 00:28:28,917 we found on the nearby post. 672 00:28:30,417 --> 00:28:31,667 -BRYANT: Oh, what is that? -THOMAS: What is it? 673 00:28:31,875 --> 00:28:33,375 TRAVIS: And strangest of all, 674 00:28:33,542 --> 00:28:35,958 we discovered a dead animal with huge fangs... 675 00:28:37,292 --> 00:28:39,250 BEN: It looks like it is a young dire wolf. 676 00:28:39,417 --> 00:28:41,833 TRAVIS: ...that according to biologist Ben Woodruff, 677 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,833 might have been a dire wolf, 678 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,375 a predator that scientists believe went extinct 679 00:28:46,542 --> 00:28:48,542 more than 10,000 years ago. 680 00:28:48,708 --> 00:28:51,708 So, could the glowing light we saw during this experiment 681 00:28:51,875 --> 00:28:54,167 be related to all of those things? 682 00:28:55,208 --> 00:28:57,417 Maybe I'm wrong, but it looks like, from my angle, 683 00:28:57,542 --> 00:29:00,167 -that it actually leaves the river. -CAMERON: Yeah. 684 00:29:00,375 --> 00:29:01,750 THOMAS: So, anyways, that was the main one 685 00:29:01,875 --> 00:29:05,000 that I wanted to point out, is this one. 686 00:29:05,208 --> 00:29:06,125 -Wow. -Yes. 687 00:29:06,292 --> 00:29:07,917 THOMAS: I mean, we've been talking about 688 00:29:08,125 --> 00:29:10,542 how challenging it is to observe 689 00:29:10,667 --> 00:29:12,292 what's happening on the ranch, 690 00:29:12,458 --> 00:29:14,000 so if I could pick one spot 691 00:29:14,208 --> 00:29:17,500 that was the hardest to try to understand, 692 00:29:17,667 --> 00:29:19,417 -it would be at the mesa. -TRAVIS: Yeah, 693 00:29:19,542 --> 00:29:21,375 and that's where we saw a lot of crazy things this summer. 694 00:29:23,042 --> 00:29:25,083 While we were struggling this year to 695 00:29:25,208 --> 00:29:27,000 get the borehole drilled up through the mesa, 696 00:29:27,125 --> 00:29:29,500 a really crazy string of events happened. 697 00:29:29,708 --> 00:29:31,958 ERIK: All right, guys. The 1.6, 698 00:29:32,083 --> 00:29:33,583 measured by the Kraken, is coming from 699 00:29:33,750 --> 00:29:35,625 -Homestead Two. -TRAVIS: I'm going. 700 00:29:35,792 --> 00:29:37,125 It started when Erik detected 701 00:29:37,250 --> 00:29:40,417 a radio frequency signal at 1.6 gigahertz 702 00:29:40,583 --> 00:29:41,958 on his antenna system that was 703 00:29:42,083 --> 00:29:43,750 coming from Homestead Two. 704 00:29:46,042 --> 00:29:48,500 TRAVIS: Yeah, it's coming from this direction. 705 00:29:48,667 --> 00:29:51,458 Now, because we've detected these signals many times 706 00:29:51,542 --> 00:29:54,958 and suspect they could be some form of communication, 707 00:29:55,167 --> 00:29:58,125 Kaleb, Dragon and I rushed over there to investigate. 708 00:29:58,250 --> 00:30:01,250 It is coming from straight overhead. 709 00:30:01,375 --> 00:30:04,208 When we got to the homestead, my antenna 710 00:30:04,333 --> 00:30:07,417 detected the signal coming from somewhere up in the sky, 711 00:30:07,583 --> 00:30:10,792 so we launched a rocket to see if it would make contact 712 00:30:10,958 --> 00:30:13,083 with something that we couldn't see. 713 00:30:13,208 --> 00:30:15,292 -BRYANT: Great launch. -It went straight up like normal, 714 00:30:15,500 --> 00:30:18,667 but as it descended, it suddenly froze mid-air 715 00:30:18,875 --> 00:30:20,708 for several seconds. 716 00:30:20,875 --> 00:30:23,250 KALEB: Almost looked like it stopped right there for a second. 717 00:30:23,417 --> 00:30:24,667 It looks like it's stuck there. Look! 718 00:30:24,792 --> 00:30:26,333 KALEB: Yeah. 719 00:30:26,500 --> 00:30:27,875 (calf mooing) 720 00:30:28,042 --> 00:30:30,000 KALEB: Hey, guys, you see that? 721 00:30:30,208 --> 00:30:31,708 TRAVIS: And then, later, a calf 722 00:30:31,875 --> 00:30:33,333 in the nearby field 723 00:30:33,500 --> 00:30:34,750 suddenly became really sick, 724 00:30:34,875 --> 00:30:36,542 and its eyes turned white, 725 00:30:36,708 --> 00:30:39,500 which is a symptom of being exposed to 726 00:30:39,583 --> 00:30:41,667 a high level of microwave radiation. 727 00:30:42,583 --> 00:30:46,500 So, could it possibly be that whatever's in the mesa 728 00:30:46,667 --> 00:30:48,667 could be the culprit? 729 00:30:48,875 --> 00:30:51,042 Could be what's causing all these different things 730 00:30:51,167 --> 00:30:52,000 around the ranch, and it's just 731 00:30:52,167 --> 00:30:53,917 a manifestation of it 732 00:30:54,042 --> 00:30:56,042 somehow or other? 733 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,417 The GPR data looks like something 734 00:30:59,625 --> 00:31:02,458 came down at a very fast rate 735 00:31:02,625 --> 00:31:04,583 and it crashes into the mesa, 736 00:31:04,708 --> 00:31:06,083 creating a debris field. 737 00:31:06,208 --> 00:31:09,000 Was it an asteroid, a, you know, meteorite, 738 00:31:09,208 --> 00:31:12,000 a comet, an alien space craft? 739 00:31:12,167 --> 00:31:16,542 I don't know, but man, it sure is, uh, suggestive that 740 00:31:16,667 --> 00:31:18,083 something like that occurred. 741 00:31:18,208 --> 00:31:20,250 How else did that stuff get inside the mesa? 742 00:31:21,375 --> 00:31:24,792 So, gentlemen, with all of this resource 743 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,458 committed to delving into the mesa, 744 00:31:27,625 --> 00:31:30,083 what are the next steps, what are the priority items, 745 00:31:30,208 --> 00:31:33,333 as we move forward with this mesa 746 00:31:33,542 --> 00:31:35,833 that is aggravating? 747 00:31:46,167 --> 00:31:47,667 BRANDON: So, gentlemen, 748 00:31:47,833 --> 00:31:49,500 as far as we've come, 749 00:31:49,625 --> 00:31:52,500 there's so much that has yet to be accomplished. 750 00:31:52,625 --> 00:31:55,375 What are the next steps to really get the answers 751 00:31:55,542 --> 00:31:57,833 with this mesa? 752 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,917 THOMAS: We now have a 600-foot-plus 753 00:32:01,125 --> 00:32:04,333 drill hole going right up the side of this anomaly. 754 00:32:04,500 --> 00:32:06,500 A large portion of that hole was drilled 755 00:32:06,667 --> 00:32:08,500 through a very hard substance. 756 00:32:08,708 --> 00:32:10,458 And so, that's not going to cave in, 757 00:32:10,625 --> 00:32:12,000 that's not gonna collapse. 758 00:32:12,208 --> 00:32:14,083 Now... 759 00:32:14,250 --> 00:32:16,000 what that means is, you know, 760 00:32:16,208 --> 00:32:18,208 when we come back to this, Alex 761 00:32:18,375 --> 00:32:20,750 is certain that they can go right up that same hole, 762 00:32:20,917 --> 00:32:22,833 and enlarge that hole and get us 763 00:32:22,958 --> 00:32:24,917 to that 18-inch size 764 00:32:25,083 --> 00:32:27,167 that we originally were going after. 765 00:32:27,375 --> 00:32:28,958 We've got to get instruments into that borehole. 766 00:32:29,125 --> 00:32:31,875 Erik, you know there's so many sensors we can put 767 00:32:32,042 --> 00:32:33,458 -through a hole that size. -Oh, yeah. 768 00:32:34,917 --> 00:32:37,000 Now that we have the first borehole 769 00:32:37,208 --> 00:32:38,875 drilled all the way through the mesa, 770 00:32:39,042 --> 00:32:41,917 we can't wait to widen it next year 771 00:32:42,125 --> 00:32:44,333 to a foot and a half in diameter. 772 00:32:44,417 --> 00:32:46,292 This will allow us to insert technology 773 00:32:46,458 --> 00:32:49,958 like ground-penetrating radar or tomography devices 774 00:32:50,083 --> 00:32:53,333 that could give us a closer and more defined image 775 00:32:53,500 --> 00:32:57,333 of the dome-shaped and smaller anomalies buried inside there. 776 00:32:57,500 --> 00:33:00,125 We can insert gamma ray and other kinds of scanners 777 00:33:00,250 --> 00:33:03,500 to see if these objects are emitting things like radiation. 778 00:33:03,708 --> 00:33:06,167 Once we know more about what we're dealing with, 779 00:33:06,375 --> 00:33:10,333 then we can properly and safely figure out how to uncover them. 780 00:33:10,542 --> 00:33:12,833 You know, we have a-a partial volumetric model 781 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,958 right now of whatever that anomaly is. 782 00:33:15,083 --> 00:33:17,250 Maybe if we can get in there now in that borehole, 783 00:33:17,417 --> 00:33:19,125 we can more completely image this thing 784 00:33:19,292 --> 00:33:21,375 that we've been talking about as a possible dome. 785 00:33:21,542 --> 00:33:22,833 -Yeah. -Uh, or more, 786 00:33:23,042 --> 00:33:24,750 or more completely image what you've described 787 00:33:24,875 --> 00:33:27,125 as a possible debris field. 788 00:33:27,292 --> 00:33:29,542 Well, we have quite, 789 00:33:29,708 --> 00:33:31,417 quite a task ahead of us. 790 00:33:31,583 --> 00:33:33,333 When I talk about the work that we're doing, 791 00:33:33,500 --> 00:33:34,833 you know, whether it's a given experiment or, 792 00:33:35,042 --> 00:33:37,000 or the-the investigation as a whole, 793 00:33:37,167 --> 00:33:39,833 the data payload is enormous. 794 00:33:40,042 --> 00:33:41,500 From data we get patterns. 795 00:33:41,625 --> 00:33:43,125 From patterns, we begin to get understanding. 796 00:33:43,292 --> 00:33:46,167 And so I just want to show you the data 797 00:33:46,375 --> 00:33:47,833 that we've collected in the form of GPS locations. 798 00:33:47,958 --> 00:33:50,708 I'm going to walk you down through the work 799 00:33:50,875 --> 00:33:53,167 of just this summer. 800 00:33:53,375 --> 00:33:55,500 Watch this. 801 00:33:55,625 --> 00:33:57,708 So we have the in-and-out, 802 00:33:57,875 --> 00:33:59,917 uh, experiments that we initially ran. 803 00:34:00,125 --> 00:34:01,667 We had rocket launches. 804 00:34:01,875 --> 00:34:03,667 -Wow. -Yes. 805 00:34:03,833 --> 00:34:06,792 TRAVIS: This year, every time we conducted helicopter 806 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,500 experiments... 807 00:34:10,208 --> 00:34:12,583 ...launched rockets... 808 00:34:12,792 --> 00:34:14,833 TRAVIS (over radio): Holy crap, look at that thing go! 809 00:34:14,958 --> 00:34:17,042 ...or flew drones, 810 00:34:17,208 --> 00:34:20,000 Erik would attach GPS devices to them 811 00:34:20,167 --> 00:34:22,917 in order to collect data on their flight paths. 812 00:34:23,083 --> 00:34:26,292 And incredibly, during nearly every experiment, 813 00:34:26,500 --> 00:34:28,667 the GPS data would show anomalies 814 00:34:28,833 --> 00:34:31,333 such as missing data or voids... 815 00:34:31,542 --> 00:34:33,542 flight paths that were wildly different 816 00:34:33,708 --> 00:34:35,625 from what we saw with our own eyes... 817 00:34:35,792 --> 00:34:39,333 What in the hell is going on? 818 00:34:39,500 --> 00:34:41,333 TRAVIS: ...and even crazy GPS data 819 00:34:41,542 --> 00:34:44,958 that ended up underground or inside the mesa. 820 00:34:45,167 --> 00:34:47,583 We had the dual helicopter experiment. 821 00:34:47,750 --> 00:34:50,500 Uh, there was the-the Dry Gulch Creek uh, exploration. 822 00:34:50,708 --> 00:34:52,958 -CAMERON: Yes. -We had the-the pits plane. 823 00:34:53,125 --> 00:34:55,375 You recall Kendra came over and flew over 824 00:34:55,542 --> 00:34:57,542 the ranch and of course with that you were flying, Cameron, 825 00:34:57,750 --> 00:34:59,375 as you have been for so many of these experiments. 826 00:34:59,542 --> 00:35:01,958 Okay, so what you're looking at... 827 00:35:02,125 --> 00:35:04,000 -JIM: Wow. -...what you're seeing here, 828 00:35:04,083 --> 00:35:06,292 represents but a fraction 829 00:35:06,500 --> 00:35:07,833 of the actual data collected. 830 00:35:07,958 --> 00:35:09,375 (exhales) 831 00:35:09,583 --> 00:35:11,667 -TRAVIS: Oh, my goodness. -CAMERON: Oh, wow. 832 00:35:11,875 --> 00:35:13,625 JIM: That's incredible. 833 00:35:13,750 --> 00:35:15,500 -BRYANT: That's pretty amazing. -THOMAS: That's a lot. 834 00:35:15,667 --> 00:35:18,000 ERIK: Let me back away from this to give you some perspective 835 00:35:18,167 --> 00:35:20,208 on scope and scale. 836 00:35:20,375 --> 00:35:23,625 TRAVIS: So as Erik added more and more GPS data 837 00:35:23,792 --> 00:35:26,833 from all of our experiments this year to his computer model, 838 00:35:27,042 --> 00:35:30,000 it was clear that a very complex pattern 839 00:35:30,167 --> 00:35:32,000 of mysterious errors kept appearing, 840 00:35:32,208 --> 00:35:35,208 but what is it that causes that to happen? 841 00:35:36,208 --> 00:35:38,333 A-As you can see, it's almost impossible 842 00:35:38,500 --> 00:35:40,708 -to-to navigate through this. -TRAVIS: It's too much for... 843 00:35:40,917 --> 00:35:43,292 a single small group of humans 844 00:35:43,458 --> 00:35:45,875 to go through and find all of the possible 845 00:35:46,042 --> 00:35:48,125 trends and connections. 846 00:35:48,292 --> 00:35:50,208 We have more data than you could possibly 847 00:35:50,375 --> 00:35:52,542 imagine about this place. 848 00:35:52,708 --> 00:35:55,417 It's going to require an artificial intelligence 849 00:35:55,583 --> 00:35:57,375 and machine-learning algorithm 850 00:35:57,542 --> 00:35:59,542 to go through this and find trends. 851 00:35:59,708 --> 00:36:01,625 There's no telling what nuggets are in there. 852 00:36:01,708 --> 00:36:03,250 Yep. 853 00:36:03,417 --> 00:36:05,167 ROYSTON: In order to really 854 00:36:05,375 --> 00:36:07,375 manage all the data, 855 00:36:07,542 --> 00:36:10,125 we'll use what we call our Athena engine, 856 00:36:10,292 --> 00:36:12,042 which is our AI platform. 857 00:36:12,208 --> 00:36:14,958 And then with Athena, we can really look at 858 00:36:15,125 --> 00:36:16,208 what are those patterns? 859 00:36:16,375 --> 00:36:18,042 Did things change just a little? 860 00:36:18,208 --> 00:36:19,500 Did things change a lot? 861 00:36:19,708 --> 00:36:21,500 BRANDON: Well, and you're gonna be using 862 00:36:21,708 --> 00:36:23,625 so many different scientific platforms. 863 00:36:23,792 --> 00:36:27,167 Multi-physics sensor platforms that 864 00:36:27,333 --> 00:36:29,333 in many cases have never been... 865 00:36:29,542 --> 00:36:31,667 deployed in an environment like this. 866 00:36:31,792 --> 00:36:33,958 And they're gonna be collecting enormous amount of data. 867 00:36:34,125 --> 00:36:36,250 -Yeah. -We'll have seven fixed boxes 868 00:36:36,458 --> 00:36:38,167 out there that have multi sensors in each, 869 00:36:38,375 --> 00:36:40,750 five to six sensors in each one of those boxes. 870 00:36:40,875 --> 00:36:44,042 You know, we'll probably get, it's over a terabyte a day. 871 00:36:44,208 --> 00:36:46,333 ERIK: No human mind is going to get around 872 00:36:46,500 --> 00:36:48,292 a terabyte of data a day 873 00:36:48,417 --> 00:36:52,083 without the assistance of an AI or some other tool set. 874 00:36:52,250 --> 00:36:54,250 TRAVIS: We're constantly seeking out and using 875 00:36:54,417 --> 00:36:57,000 cutting-edge technology to investigate Skinwalker Ranch, 876 00:36:57,208 --> 00:36:59,958 like the AI system called Athena 877 00:37:00,125 --> 00:37:02,333 that Jim Royston and Sam Deriso of OmniTeq 878 00:37:02,500 --> 00:37:04,333 are installing on the property. 879 00:37:04,458 --> 00:37:06,583 This will help us to better detect phenomena 880 00:37:06,750 --> 00:37:09,208 when they happen and, just maybe, 881 00:37:09,375 --> 00:37:11,792 finally identify exactly what they are. 882 00:37:11,958 --> 00:37:13,708 Turning the algorithms on, 883 00:37:13,875 --> 00:37:15,500 that's the next step. 884 00:37:15,667 --> 00:37:17,208 This is a big effort, the next step. 885 00:37:17,417 --> 00:37:20,292 -Who knows what we'll find? -Yeah. 886 00:37:29,417 --> 00:37:32,250 I feel like we're just on the cusp 887 00:37:32,417 --> 00:37:34,458 of the greatest discoveries. 888 00:37:34,625 --> 00:37:36,917 Ever, not just with respect 889 00:37:37,125 --> 00:37:40,083 to Skinwalker Ranch, but on the planet. 890 00:37:40,250 --> 00:37:43,125 I mean, this is the new frontier 891 00:37:43,292 --> 00:37:45,708 that we're embarking on here 892 00:37:45,875 --> 00:37:48,250 with these experiments with this research, 893 00:37:48,417 --> 00:37:50,333 and I think it's gonna be interesting to see 894 00:37:50,500 --> 00:37:53,917 what this coming year may end up revealing. 895 00:37:54,042 --> 00:37:58,958 With that, I really want to express my appreciation 896 00:37:59,083 --> 00:38:02,542 for the experts that have joined our effort this past year. 897 00:38:02,708 --> 00:38:05,167 Would love to hear your thoughts. 898 00:38:05,333 --> 00:38:08,000 And also see if you're willing to come back. 899 00:38:08,208 --> 00:38:09,792 Even after seeing some things 900 00:38:09,958 --> 00:38:11,833 that probably left you a little disturbed. 901 00:38:12,042 --> 00:38:14,333 Um, you know, Brad and I, 902 00:38:14,500 --> 00:38:17,167 I think, are-are confident that we would like 903 00:38:17,333 --> 00:38:19,833 to come back next year and be able to share data. 904 00:38:20,042 --> 00:38:21,833 Uh, I'd like to learn more about what you're seeing. 905 00:38:21,958 --> 00:38:24,375 And I would like to, you know, follow that up with some 906 00:38:24,542 --> 00:38:26,792 of the other sensors that you're using to correlate this data. 907 00:38:26,917 --> 00:38:29,417 Well, I'd love to see not only your data 908 00:38:29,583 --> 00:38:32,792 but a collaborative approach to understanding the nature 909 00:38:32,917 --> 00:38:35,000 of the UAP aspect 910 00:38:35,125 --> 00:38:37,500 that continues to be 911 00:38:37,667 --> 00:38:40,333 a presence here at Skinwalker Ranch. 912 00:38:40,542 --> 00:38:43,375 Jay, you're a veteran. 913 00:38:43,542 --> 00:38:46,708 You've been at this for a very long time. 914 00:38:46,875 --> 00:38:49,542 You came to the ranch before I had 915 00:38:49,667 --> 00:38:51,583 acquired the property and were 916 00:38:51,708 --> 00:38:56,000 involved with the prior investigation and research. 917 00:38:56,208 --> 00:38:59,417 What do you suggest as we move forward? 918 00:38:59,542 --> 00:39:01,833 The ranch has been a part of my life longer than everybody here 919 00:39:02,042 --> 00:39:04,500 except for Thomas, 'cause he grew up next to it. 920 00:39:04,625 --> 00:39:07,500 With that, I-I really feel like I'm connected to the ranch. 921 00:39:07,708 --> 00:39:09,500 I really think it's trying to communicate. 922 00:39:09,625 --> 00:39:12,375 -And we're trying to understand it. -Wow. 923 00:39:12,542 --> 00:39:14,500 JAY: And if I can come up with new ways 924 00:39:14,708 --> 00:39:17,625 to facilitate communication and understand 925 00:39:17,792 --> 00:39:19,667 what's going on out here, so... 926 00:39:19,833 --> 00:39:22,458 I really appreciate everyone coming together. 927 00:39:22,625 --> 00:39:24,125 The sacrifice you've made. 928 00:39:24,292 --> 00:39:26,083 This has been a grueling 929 00:39:26,292 --> 00:39:28,000 series of months, I know 930 00:39:28,125 --> 00:39:30,000 it has been taxing. 931 00:39:30,167 --> 00:39:32,292 It has been fraught with danger. 932 00:39:32,458 --> 00:39:34,667 There's been some real hazards involved 933 00:39:34,833 --> 00:39:38,125 with this activity, and I really want to express 934 00:39:38,292 --> 00:39:41,458 my deep appreciation for all of you. 935 00:39:43,083 --> 00:39:46,333 And I hope that we can continue to move forward. 936 00:39:46,458 --> 00:39:48,917 Love to pull everyone back together and let's 937 00:39:49,042 --> 00:39:53,333 take this to another level and let's make history. 938 00:39:53,542 --> 00:39:55,333 This is the new frontier. 939 00:39:55,500 --> 00:39:57,083 JIML: Yeah, this is. 940 00:39:57,250 --> 00:39:59,500 Well, thank you, everyone. 941 00:39:59,667 --> 00:40:02,167 Let's conclude and, uh, onward. 942 00:40:02,292 --> 00:40:03,917 (overlapping responses) 943 00:40:04,083 --> 00:40:05,875 No mercy. 944 00:40:10,583 --> 00:40:12,458 TRAVIS: Ever since I was a kid, 945 00:40:12,583 --> 00:40:15,958 I've wanted to know if we're alone in the universe. 946 00:40:16,167 --> 00:40:18,833 I've wanted to understand the strange encounters 947 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,417 and UFO sightings 948 00:40:20,542 --> 00:40:23,083 that people across the world have reported. 949 00:40:23,250 --> 00:40:27,000 Maybe the truth behind these kinds of mysteries and much more 950 00:40:27,208 --> 00:40:30,833 is waiting to be revealed right here on Skinwalker Ranch. 951 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,167 And I can't wait to get back to work with this amazing team, 952 00:40:34,333 --> 00:40:37,125 and hopefully we're finally gonna get 953 00:40:37,292 --> 00:40:39,042 some answers and figure it out. 954 00:40:40,583 --> 00:40:42,708 THOMAS: The more data that we get in our experiments, 955 00:40:42,875 --> 00:40:45,083 the more I'm starting to think that all these places 956 00:40:45,250 --> 00:40:46,833 on the ranch are somehow connected. 957 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,750 Whether it's the east canyons and the triangle, 958 00:40:49,875 --> 00:40:51,708 the triangle and south side of the ranch, 959 00:40:51,875 --> 00:40:53,500 Homestead Two. 960 00:40:53,708 --> 00:40:56,333 There's no limits or bounds as to where we're gonna search next 961 00:40:56,542 --> 00:40:58,583 and trying to find answers to the anomalous things 962 00:40:58,750 --> 00:41:00,667 that are happening here at Skinwalker Ranch. 963 00:41:02,042 --> 00:41:03,500 ERIK: Initially the question concerning 964 00:41:03,625 --> 00:41:05,542 the ranch was, "What if?" 965 00:41:05,708 --> 00:41:08,417 Today the question is, "What now?" 966 00:41:08,542 --> 00:41:11,500 I think that as we add new capabilities, 967 00:41:11,708 --> 00:41:15,083 new instruments, and the artificial intelligence 968 00:41:15,250 --> 00:41:16,708 machine-learning platforms, 969 00:41:16,875 --> 00:41:19,167 we will better understand this phenomenology 970 00:41:19,292 --> 00:41:21,750 with which we are engaging here on the ranch. 971 00:41:21,917 --> 00:41:24,750 I'm sure that new ideas are gonna emerge 972 00:41:24,875 --> 00:41:27,292 and this is gonna continue to be a compelling problem set 973 00:41:27,500 --> 00:41:29,458 for years to come. 974 00:41:29,625 --> 00:41:32,500 BRANDON: As we conclude this historic year 975 00:41:32,667 --> 00:41:34,667 of experiments and research, 976 00:41:34,792 --> 00:41:39,417 we're left with so much to go back and explore. 977 00:41:39,583 --> 00:41:42,167 We have more documentation than ever 978 00:41:42,333 --> 00:41:44,500 proving the reality of the phenomena. 979 00:41:44,667 --> 00:41:48,042 We are on the cusp of discovering 980 00:41:48,208 --> 00:41:50,583 the secret of 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