1 00:00:02,042 --> 00:00:03,000 TRAVIS: Why was it so hard to drill through 2 00:00:03,208 --> 00:00:04,917 whatever this stuff is? 3 00:00:05,083 --> 00:00:07,708 I think these ceramics might be covering the surface 4 00:00:07,917 --> 00:00:09,583 of something pretty incredible. 5 00:00:09,750 --> 00:00:12,083 -Ooh. That was warm. -Wow! 6 00:00:12,208 --> 00:00:13,833 TRAVIS: Look at that weird figure eight it's making. 7 00:00:13,958 --> 00:00:15,167 KEVIN: That definitely looks 8 00:00:15,333 --> 00:00:16,667 more dispersed than what they normally look like. 9 00:00:16,875 --> 00:00:17,958 Isn't that strange? 10 00:00:19,417 --> 00:00:20,667 ERIK: Oh, wow. 11 00:00:20,833 --> 00:00:22,500 It didn't do the ring, though, guys. 12 00:00:22,667 --> 00:00:23,875 -I'm looking at it right now. -KEVIN: Nope, there's no ring. 13 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:25,583 ERIK: It could well be that that bubble 14 00:00:25,708 --> 00:00:27,708 -is playing a role in the shaping of that cloud. -Yeah. 15 00:00:27,875 --> 00:00:29,042 DAVE: What is that? 16 00:00:29,250 --> 00:00:30,833 Look at that. There it goes. 17 00:00:30,958 --> 00:00:33,042 That's what I'm talking about. 18 00:00:33,250 --> 00:00:35,250 -It's something I cannot explain. -That's amazing. 19 00:00:37,375 --> 00:00:40,792 NARRATOR: There is a ranch in Northern Utah. 20 00:00:40,958 --> 00:00:43,375 It is considered the epicenter 21 00:00:43,542 --> 00:00:48,625 of the strangest and most disturbing occurrences on Earth. 22 00:00:48,792 --> 00:00:49,958 For two decades, 23 00:00:50,125 --> 00:00:51,833 the federal government 24 00:00:51,958 --> 00:00:53,958 investigated the property. 25 00:00:54,125 --> 00:00:57,333 Their findings have never been made public. 26 00:00:57,542 --> 00:00:58,833 TRAVIS: Right there! We got something! 27 00:00:58,958 --> 00:01:00,917 NARRATOR: Now a new team 28 00:01:01,042 --> 00:01:03,583 of independent scientists and researchers 29 00:01:03,750 --> 00:01:04,750 are taking over. 30 00:01:05,250 --> 00:01:06,708 They are uncovering evidence 31 00:01:06,875 --> 00:01:08,750 that the countless stories... 32 00:01:08,875 --> 00:01:10,583 It came right out of the mesa. 33 00:01:10,708 --> 00:01:13,333 ...of unidentified aerial phenomena... 34 00:01:13,500 --> 00:01:14,667 UAP right there! 35 00:01:14,833 --> 00:01:16,375 ...bizarre energies... 36 00:01:16,542 --> 00:01:18,333 It looks like there's a heat source right above 'em. 37 00:01:18,500 --> 00:01:21,208 ...and portals that lead to other dimensions... 38 00:01:21,375 --> 00:01:22,250 We're maybe looking at the anomaly 39 00:01:22,375 --> 00:01:23,958 for the first time, guys. 40 00:01:24,125 --> 00:01:26,375 ...might actually be true. 41 00:01:26,542 --> 00:01:29,292 They will stop at nothing to reveal... 42 00:01:31,958 --> 00:01:35,458 ...The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch. 43 00:01:40,375 --> 00:01:43,167 BRANDON: I want to take a moment to thank everyone 44 00:01:43,333 --> 00:01:46,500 for their engagement, for taking the time out of their busy lives 45 00:01:46,667 --> 00:01:49,333 to come together today for this very critical briefing, 46 00:01:49,500 --> 00:01:53,000 as we dive into, I think, the most compelling evidence 47 00:01:53,167 --> 00:01:55,000 relative to the reality 48 00:01:55,167 --> 00:01:57,500 of what is happening at Skinwalker Ranch. 49 00:01:57,625 --> 00:02:01,500 Jay, I appreciate you pulling together a team 50 00:02:01,708 --> 00:02:04,500 of esteemed experts to help us better understand 51 00:02:04,667 --> 00:02:06,875 what we have documented at the ranch. 52 00:02:07,042 --> 00:02:08,292 Well, I appreciate it. 53 00:02:08,417 --> 00:02:10,958 I think this is gonna be a really good review 54 00:02:11,125 --> 00:02:13,417 because the folks we've brought together. 55 00:02:13,583 --> 00:02:16,250 We're trying to get the experts in their fields so that 56 00:02:16,417 --> 00:02:17,958 we can solve Skinwalker Ranch. 57 00:02:18,125 --> 00:02:19,250 TRAVIS: As the strangest year yet 58 00:02:19,417 --> 00:02:21,042 in our team's investigation 59 00:02:21,208 --> 00:02:23,042 on Skinwalker Ranch comes to an end, 60 00:02:23,208 --> 00:02:24,500 Brandon Fugal gathered us 61 00:02:24,708 --> 00:02:26,500 in Salt Lake City to review the results 62 00:02:26,708 --> 00:02:28,250 of our latest experiment 63 00:02:28,458 --> 00:02:31,167 and discuss all the incredible discoveries we've made. 64 00:02:31,375 --> 00:02:34,625 And joining us were several high-profile guests, 65 00:02:34,750 --> 00:02:36,500 including my former boss 66 00:02:36,625 --> 00:02:39,000 from the UAP Task Force, Jay Stratton. 67 00:02:39,208 --> 00:02:42,167 Jay is a retired army intelligence officer 68 00:02:42,375 --> 00:02:44,583 who oversaw Robert Bigelow's investigation 69 00:02:44,750 --> 00:02:47,042 of Skinwalker Ranch for the federal government 70 00:02:47,208 --> 00:02:48,833 in the early 2000s. 71 00:02:49,042 --> 00:02:51,375 A good leader brings and surrounds themselves 72 00:02:51,542 --> 00:02:53,333 with the experts that can answer the questions, right? 73 00:02:53,542 --> 00:02:55,750 And so, I brought in Dr. Eric Davis, 74 00:02:55,875 --> 00:02:57,083 who was part of EarthTech 75 00:02:57,250 --> 00:03:00,000 and part of the original DIA UFO program. 76 00:03:00,208 --> 00:03:01,833 BRANDON: Your work, Dr. Davis, 77 00:03:02,042 --> 00:03:04,250 laid the foundation, in many respects, 78 00:03:04,417 --> 00:03:06,375 for what we are doing today. 79 00:03:06,583 --> 00:03:08,375 Thank you. 80 00:03:08,542 --> 00:03:10,333 Dr. Eric Davis is an astrophysicist 81 00:03:10,542 --> 00:03:13,417 with 40 years of government and private sector experience 82 00:03:13,583 --> 00:03:15,708 in space exploration and military intelligence. 83 00:03:15,875 --> 00:03:19,917 He was also part of Robert Bigelow's ranch investigation. 84 00:03:20,083 --> 00:03:21,250 JAY: Along with him, 85 00:03:21,375 --> 00:03:23,167 I've got Dr. Garry Nolan, who participated 86 00:03:23,375 --> 00:03:25,292 -through the DIA program years... -Yeah. 87 00:03:25,417 --> 00:03:26,917 ...and into the UAP Task Force. 88 00:03:27,125 --> 00:03:29,167 TRAVIS: Dr. Garry Nolan 89 00:03:29,292 --> 00:03:31,417 is a professor at Stanford University 90 00:03:31,542 --> 00:03:35,375 and worked with me and Jay on the government's UAP Task Force 91 00:03:35,542 --> 00:03:38,167 to investigate unidentified aerial phenomena 92 00:03:38,250 --> 00:03:39,667 that many of our military members 93 00:03:39,792 --> 00:03:42,333 have reported encountering in recent years 94 00:03:42,542 --> 00:03:45,417 across the globe and even on Skinwalker Ranch. 95 00:03:45,625 --> 00:03:49,792 JAY: And Mr. Eric Schrock, who is an aerospace expert and 96 00:03:49,917 --> 00:03:51,667 one of those guys I call when I need some help 97 00:03:51,833 --> 00:03:53,583 when it comes to advanced technologies. 98 00:03:53,750 --> 00:03:55,667 ERIC: I have a 30-plus-year background 99 00:03:55,792 --> 00:03:59,000 in the development of advanced aerospace systems. 100 00:03:59,208 --> 00:04:01,000 And I'm really excited to be here today 101 00:04:01,167 --> 00:04:02,667 and see what all we can find out. 102 00:04:02,875 --> 00:04:04,958 -Well, we appreciate your insights. -Thank you. 103 00:04:05,167 --> 00:04:06,583 ROYSTON: And to have General Lord here 104 00:04:06,708 --> 00:04:08,958 from the Space Command side of it is, 105 00:04:09,125 --> 00:04:12,500 -you know, it's just amazing. -LANCE: Thank you, Jim. 106 00:04:12,667 --> 00:04:15,167 Lance Lord, former commander of Air Force Space Command. 107 00:04:15,250 --> 00:04:16,500 My background as commander 108 00:04:16,708 --> 00:04:18,333 of Air Force Space Command comes from 109 00:04:18,500 --> 00:04:20,375 the intercontinental ballistic missile missions, uh, 110 00:04:20,542 --> 00:04:22,667 nuclear strategy work in the Pentagon. 111 00:04:22,833 --> 00:04:26,500 And my job as the chairman of OmniTeq and with support 112 00:04:26,667 --> 00:04:28,542 of Brandon Fugal and the whole team is 113 00:04:28,708 --> 00:04:30,167 to make sure we drive the resources 114 00:04:30,333 --> 00:04:32,958 to help the investigative process. 115 00:04:33,083 --> 00:04:34,500 So, uh, it's great to be here. 116 00:04:34,708 --> 00:04:36,792 BRANDON: Appreciate that. I think 117 00:04:36,875 --> 00:04:38,333 bringing together 118 00:04:38,500 --> 00:04:41,000 a multidisciplinary team of experts 119 00:04:41,208 --> 00:04:43,792 will help us carry the investigation forward. 120 00:04:43,917 --> 00:04:46,083 Well, with that, Erik Bard, 121 00:04:46,250 --> 00:04:48,792 I'm going to turn the time to you. 122 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:50,333 You know, just to set the stage for the discussion, 123 00:04:50,542 --> 00:04:52,333 we're talking about particularly 124 00:04:52,500 --> 00:04:55,375 interesting data where we're seeing things happen with 125 00:04:55,542 --> 00:04:57,500 our instrumentation that has indicated 126 00:04:57,667 --> 00:05:01,333 what I would say is a structure in the data itself. 127 00:05:01,500 --> 00:05:03,667 We've been calling that "the bubble." 128 00:05:03,875 --> 00:05:07,125 I've created a conceptual model of the bubble. 129 00:05:07,292 --> 00:05:08,458 Let me bring it up. 130 00:05:09,458 --> 00:05:11,833 This is derived from lidar data 131 00:05:11,917 --> 00:05:15,042 from Pete Kelsey's terrestrial laser scanner. 132 00:05:15,208 --> 00:05:16,417 GARRY: Wow. 133 00:05:16,583 --> 00:05:18,833 -LANCE: Hmm. -GARRY: How big across? 134 00:05:18,958 --> 00:05:20,792 And how far above the ranch? 135 00:05:20,917 --> 00:05:23,208 610-meter radius. 136 00:05:23,375 --> 00:05:24,917 It's about 2,000 feet. 137 00:05:25,125 --> 00:05:26,583 Okay. 138 00:05:26,750 --> 00:05:28,750 TRAVIS: Of all the crazy things we've discovered 139 00:05:28,917 --> 00:05:30,083 over the past six years, 140 00:05:30,250 --> 00:05:32,458 a massive, invisible bubble, 141 00:05:32,625 --> 00:05:34,292 which we have repeatedly detected 142 00:05:34,417 --> 00:05:35,708 with infrared lidar devices, 143 00:05:35,917 --> 00:05:38,417 covering a huge area of the ranch 144 00:05:38,583 --> 00:05:42,208 above and below the ground is at the top of the list. 145 00:05:42,375 --> 00:05:44,375 It encompasses several hot spots 146 00:05:44,583 --> 00:05:48,083 where we've seen tons of UAPs... 147 00:05:49,583 --> 00:05:51,375 -You seeing this? -Yes. 148 00:05:51,542 --> 00:05:55,292 ...and detected strange radio frequency signals 149 00:05:55,458 --> 00:05:57,667 that may actually be communication signals. 150 00:05:57,833 --> 00:06:00,583 Whatever this thing is, it appears to have stopped 151 00:06:00,708 --> 00:06:04,333 numerous instruments, including drones and rockets, 152 00:06:04,542 --> 00:06:06,500 from entering its barriers to collect data. 153 00:06:06,708 --> 00:06:09,833 And we've speculated that the area at its center, 154 00:06:09,958 --> 00:06:12,792 which is right at the strange spot we call "the triangle," 155 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,125 has prevented our devices from collecting GPS data 156 00:06:16,292 --> 00:06:21,333 inside the bubble and even above it up to about 3,200 feet. 157 00:06:21,500 --> 00:06:23,583 One of the questions that keeps coming up is, 158 00:06:23,792 --> 00:06:27,208 what happens if we attempt to energize 159 00:06:27,375 --> 00:06:29,500 the interior and the barriers of this bubble 160 00:06:29,708 --> 00:06:31,292 with a lot of thermal energy? 161 00:06:31,458 --> 00:06:33,667 Would it respond to something that we do? 162 00:06:33,833 --> 00:06:35,292 Particularly, if it's very energetic? 163 00:06:35,458 --> 00:06:38,375 Well, that was our target for the final experiment. 164 00:06:40,333 --> 00:06:41,708 -KALEB: Holy crap. -TRAVIS: A few days ago, 165 00:06:41,875 --> 00:06:44,667 we welcomed a team of pyrotechnic experts 166 00:06:44,833 --> 00:06:46,667 to create massive fireballs 167 00:06:46,792 --> 00:06:50,375 that produced mushroom clouds followed by perfect smoke rings 168 00:06:50,542 --> 00:06:53,833 at the center of and along the bubble's barriers. 169 00:06:54,042 --> 00:06:57,083 As the smoke rings rose from the ground 170 00:06:57,250 --> 00:06:59,250 up to as much as 300 feet high, 171 00:06:59,375 --> 00:07:01,917 thermal camera expert Dave Mason 172 00:07:02,083 --> 00:07:03,875 used his specialized cameras 173 00:07:04,042 --> 00:07:06,500 to see how the smoke rings were affected by the bubble. 174 00:07:06,708 --> 00:07:08,292 KEVIN: The smoke rings are 175 00:07:08,417 --> 00:07:10,250 completely different than what we normally see. 176 00:07:10,417 --> 00:07:11,667 TRAVIS: During the experiment, 177 00:07:11,833 --> 00:07:13,875 a number of the smoke rings seemed 178 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:15,542 to have been affected by strange things 179 00:07:15,708 --> 00:07:17,375 we couldn't see with the naked eye. 180 00:07:17,583 --> 00:07:20,833 So we were eager to share surveillance and drone videos 181 00:07:21,042 --> 00:07:23,833 with our guest experts while we assessed other data 182 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,125 that we captured during the experiment. 183 00:07:26,250 --> 00:07:29,583 So, I'm gonna show us one of those 184 00:07:29,708 --> 00:07:32,167 detonations there at the triangle. 185 00:07:32,375 --> 00:07:33,833 Let's watch what happens 186 00:07:33,958 --> 00:07:36,083 to a detonation that should produce 187 00:07:36,250 --> 00:07:38,333 a mushroom cloud 188 00:07:38,500 --> 00:07:41,958 and a fully formed ring but does not. 189 00:07:44,458 --> 00:07:46,125 -CAMERON: Wow. -ROYSTON: Look at that. 190 00:07:47,125 --> 00:07:48,375 ERIK: Look at... look at the shape of this. 191 00:07:48,542 --> 00:07:50,167 TRAVIS: It's really strange. 192 00:07:50,250 --> 00:07:51,958 It should be a perfect circle, 193 00:07:52,042 --> 00:07:54,708 but something turned it into a figure eight. 194 00:07:54,875 --> 00:07:58,625 And this completely shocked the explosives crew. 195 00:07:58,792 --> 00:08:01,167 ERIK: It's certainly suggestive that 196 00:08:01,375 --> 00:08:03,333 that explosion, or that mushroom cloud, 197 00:08:03,542 --> 00:08:05,833 was interacting with something on the way up. 198 00:08:06,042 --> 00:08:07,958 -Yeah. -Right. 199 00:08:08,125 --> 00:08:09,333 ERIC: So, did you notice 200 00:08:09,542 --> 00:08:10,875 another type of phenomena somewhere else 201 00:08:11,083 --> 00:08:12,208 at the same time these were going on? 202 00:08:12,375 --> 00:08:13,667 Yes. 203 00:08:14,792 --> 00:08:16,500 ERIK: This is a great segue because 204 00:08:16,625 --> 00:08:19,583 I have an example of a surveillance camera positioned 205 00:08:19,750 --> 00:08:21,542 east of the triangle that captured 206 00:08:21,708 --> 00:08:23,958 something above the bubble. 207 00:08:24,083 --> 00:08:25,792 Let's watch this. 208 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:27,833 -GARRY: That thing in the middle? -ERIK: Yes. 209 00:08:27,958 --> 00:08:30,083 -BRANDON: There it is. -ERIC: Wow. 210 00:08:32,375 --> 00:08:33,667 TRAVIS: Where did it go? 211 00:08:33,833 --> 00:08:35,167 'Cause those are the only clouds 212 00:08:35,292 --> 00:08:36,417 -in the sky right there. -ERIK: Right. 213 00:08:36,625 --> 00:08:38,208 I'll play it again. 214 00:08:38,375 --> 00:08:40,750 TRAVIS: Immediately after the fireball explosion, 215 00:08:40,875 --> 00:08:44,500 a bright white UAP showed up out of thin air. 216 00:08:44,667 --> 00:08:46,417 Is that what caused the smoke ring 217 00:08:46,583 --> 00:08:49,000 to go from a perfect circle, as it normally should, 218 00:08:49,208 --> 00:08:51,500 to an odd figure eight? 219 00:08:51,625 --> 00:08:53,833 And if so, did it come from the bubble? 220 00:08:53,958 --> 00:08:56,375 So we did some of this in the day 221 00:08:56,542 --> 00:08:58,167 so we could watch the smoke ring easily 222 00:08:58,333 --> 00:09:00,458 and then again at night 223 00:09:00,583 --> 00:09:02,542 with, uh, you know, infrared instruments. 224 00:09:02,708 --> 00:09:04,625 ERIK: Let's watch what happens. 225 00:09:06,667 --> 00:09:08,042 Two simultaneous detonations. 226 00:09:08,208 --> 00:09:09,500 TRAVIS: Now look how 227 00:09:09,625 --> 00:09:11,958 they look completely different as they form. 228 00:09:14,042 --> 00:09:15,750 CAMERON: Fascinating. 229 00:09:15,917 --> 00:09:18,792 ERIK: And then here, during this moment, we saw something seeming 230 00:09:18,958 --> 00:09:20,583 to sweep across the ridgeline of the mesa 231 00:09:20,750 --> 00:09:23,375 in what we call a differential FLIR camera system. 232 00:09:23,583 --> 00:09:25,667 And I want to put your eyes on this. 233 00:09:27,333 --> 00:09:29,250 This is a thermographic system 234 00:09:29,458 --> 00:09:31,917 that is looking at temperature changes 235 00:09:32,083 --> 00:09:34,500 in the field of view of the camera. 236 00:09:34,625 --> 00:09:36,667 And you'll see areas of brightness 237 00:09:36,875 --> 00:09:39,125 moving across the ridgeline of the mesa. 238 00:09:39,333 --> 00:09:40,708 TRAVIS: Yeah, you can see it. 239 00:09:40,875 --> 00:09:42,500 -So, it's that yellow? -TRAVIS: Kind of snaking across? 240 00:09:42,667 --> 00:09:44,292 It moves across, right? 241 00:09:44,375 --> 00:09:48,667 ERIK: Yes. That yellow line indicates increased heat. 242 00:09:48,875 --> 00:09:52,167 And just as curiously, it's moving from left to right. 243 00:09:52,333 --> 00:09:54,375 This is really interesting. 244 00:09:54,542 --> 00:09:56,208 It's-it's fascinating. 245 00:09:56,375 --> 00:09:58,458 Uh, yeah, interestingly enough, 246 00:09:58,667 --> 00:10:01,375 right before, we saw two UAPs 247 00:10:01,583 --> 00:10:03,750 headed west towards Homestead Two. 248 00:10:03,917 --> 00:10:05,583 DAVE: Hey, Erik, come here 249 00:10:05,708 --> 00:10:07,292 -and take a look at this. -ERIK: Yeah, sure. 250 00:10:07,458 --> 00:10:09,792 TRAVIS: Seconds before the thermal energy appeared 251 00:10:09,958 --> 00:10:11,750 to sweep across the mesa, 252 00:10:11,875 --> 00:10:14,833 two UAPs showed up in one of our thermal cameras 253 00:10:14,958 --> 00:10:17,250 and flew west across the top of the mesa 254 00:10:17,375 --> 00:10:20,000 and over the drill site towards Homestead Two. 255 00:10:20,208 --> 00:10:21,833 They were stunning. 256 00:10:22,042 --> 00:10:26,083 But they may have been connected to another even stranger event. 257 00:10:26,250 --> 00:10:28,250 Okay, so, Sam, I'm going to bring up your data, 258 00:10:28,375 --> 00:10:30,167 -and I want you to talk us through it. -Sure. 259 00:10:31,208 --> 00:10:34,958 So, we have multiple data sensor locations throughout the ranch. 260 00:10:35,042 --> 00:10:36,917 We call them the multiphysics boxes. 261 00:10:37,083 --> 00:10:39,708 And if you see the map in the upper left-hand corner, 262 00:10:39,875 --> 00:10:42,917 that shows you the positions of the fixed GPS sensors 263 00:10:43,083 --> 00:10:45,167 set up at each of these locations. 264 00:10:45,375 --> 00:10:48,000 What you're seeing in the upper left-hand corner 265 00:10:48,167 --> 00:10:50,167 is Homestead Two. 266 00:10:50,375 --> 00:10:52,708 Right now we're just talking about these GPS sensors. 267 00:10:52,875 --> 00:10:55,292 -I see. -SAM: Now watch what appears 268 00:10:55,417 --> 00:10:57,000 to happen to this GPS sensor 269 00:10:57,208 --> 00:10:59,500 while we were experiencing that thermal anomaly. 270 00:10:59,625 --> 00:11:02,833 -JIM: Oh, wow. -THOMAS: Wow. 271 00:11:03,042 --> 00:11:06,167 ERIK: So, remember, these are stationary GPS trackers. 272 00:11:06,375 --> 00:11:08,833 -What? -Look at that. 273 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,417 BRANDON: And this is happening 274 00:11:11,583 --> 00:11:13,667 in tandem with this thermal anomaly? 275 00:11:13,875 --> 00:11:15,417 Yes. 276 00:11:16,958 --> 00:11:18,417 This is... That's-that's 277 00:11:18,583 --> 00:11:19,708 -a couple miles. -THOMAS: That's at least 278 00:11:19,875 --> 00:11:21,333 -three miles due north. -Yeah. 279 00:11:21,542 --> 00:11:23,167 Oh. Oh, it keeps going, guys. 280 00:11:23,292 --> 00:11:25,375 Just watch. 281 00:11:25,542 --> 00:11:27,958 TRAVIS: Where is it taking us? 282 00:11:31,875 --> 00:11:33,500 TRAVIS: Where's the GPS going? 283 00:11:33,625 --> 00:11:36,167 ERIK: About 20 miles to the north. 284 00:11:36,375 --> 00:11:37,708 JIM: Geez. 285 00:11:37,875 --> 00:11:39,625 It looks like it was being pushed away 286 00:11:39,708 --> 00:11:41,875 -from something. -Mm-hmm. 287 00:11:42,042 --> 00:11:43,875 Absolutely. 288 00:11:44,042 --> 00:11:46,583 TRAVIS: Just after we set off two explosions last week 289 00:11:46,750 --> 00:11:48,250 near the western boundary of the bubble, 290 00:11:48,417 --> 00:11:52,583 one of our thermal cameras picked up two UAPs flying 291 00:11:52,750 --> 00:11:54,583 over the mesa towards Homestead Two. 292 00:11:54,750 --> 00:11:58,917 But then the data from a stationary GPS sensor 293 00:11:59,083 --> 00:12:03,333 near Homestead Two inexplicably began moving north 294 00:12:03,500 --> 00:12:05,458 for nearly 20 miles. 295 00:12:05,667 --> 00:12:08,750 The sensor never actually moved. 296 00:12:08,917 --> 00:12:11,958 So how did the GPS data think it was moving away? 297 00:12:12,083 --> 00:12:14,292 Did the UAPs we saw heading that way 298 00:12:14,500 --> 00:12:16,417 somehow move the GPS data? 299 00:12:16,542 --> 00:12:19,542 Or was it the bubble or its boundary that caused this? 300 00:12:19,708 --> 00:12:21,875 ERIK: Yeah, so, we're encountering these 301 00:12:22,042 --> 00:12:24,917 exceptional events in and around this bubble structure. 302 00:12:25,125 --> 00:12:27,458 Uh, let me just put it back up. 303 00:12:29,583 --> 00:12:32,500 TRAVIS: When we take instruments through this bubble boundary, 304 00:12:32,708 --> 00:12:34,917 the instruments act up. 305 00:12:35,083 --> 00:12:37,000 Sometimes we get corrupted data. 306 00:12:37,167 --> 00:12:40,000 Sometimes we get strange measurements 307 00:12:40,208 --> 00:12:42,167 that the instrument shouldn't be giving us. 308 00:12:42,292 --> 00:12:44,333 For example, with GPS, 309 00:12:44,542 --> 00:12:46,583 it thinks it's miles away 310 00:12:46,792 --> 00:12:47,917 -from where it is. -ERIK: Yeah, and we're talking 311 00:12:48,083 --> 00:12:49,833 about something that is repeatable. 312 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:51,000 Yes. 313 00:12:51,917 --> 00:12:53,333 ERIK: Every time we do 314 00:12:53,500 --> 00:12:55,000 uh, any kind of experimentation, 315 00:12:55,208 --> 00:12:58,458 we have our standard set of equipment, sensors and so forth. 316 00:12:58,583 --> 00:13:02,583 And we've really been pressing drone platforms into service. 317 00:13:02,708 --> 00:13:06,500 And, you know, Jim Royston is very often piloting the drone. 318 00:13:06,667 --> 00:13:08,583 And in this region that you see here 319 00:13:08,708 --> 00:13:12,167 colored in red in the western bubble boundary, 320 00:13:12,333 --> 00:13:14,583 that being Homestead Two, you know, we've had 321 00:13:14,750 --> 00:13:16,333 very strange things happen. 322 00:13:16,542 --> 00:13:19,083 -Would you like to describe that, Jim? -Yeah, so, 323 00:13:19,250 --> 00:13:21,167 I'll talk about one incident. 324 00:13:21,292 --> 00:13:24,000 Flying the drone from the west side of Homestead Two 325 00:13:24,167 --> 00:13:27,333 through the western side of the boundary, 326 00:13:27,542 --> 00:13:29,375 the drone gets to this, you know, 327 00:13:29,542 --> 00:13:31,958 boundary or this membrane, 328 00:13:32,083 --> 00:13:34,958 and it was just like something stopped it. 329 00:13:35,125 --> 00:13:36,667 KALEB: Yeah. It's as if it was caught 330 00:13:36,875 --> 00:13:38,458 by something in midair. 331 00:13:40,542 --> 00:13:42,167 Uh-oh. 332 00:13:42,375 --> 00:13:44,125 TRAVIS: What happened to Jim's drone this year 333 00:13:44,250 --> 00:13:45,708 when he tried to fly it through 334 00:13:45,875 --> 00:13:47,542 the western boundary of the bubble 335 00:13:47,708 --> 00:13:49,667 was one of the most bizarre events we've ever witnessed. 336 00:13:49,792 --> 00:13:51,167 ROYSTON: You see that? Every time I try 337 00:13:51,333 --> 00:13:53,083 to push through the barrier, look what happens. 338 00:13:53,250 --> 00:13:55,833 THOMAS: It's like it's pushing you back. 339 00:13:56,042 --> 00:13:58,667 TRAVIS: The drone stayed frozen there in the air. 340 00:13:58,833 --> 00:14:00,333 But when we reviewed the video, 341 00:14:00,458 --> 00:14:04,458 somehow it thought it got pushed more than 200 feet away, 342 00:14:04,625 --> 00:14:07,542 just like what happened with the GPS data 343 00:14:07,708 --> 00:14:09,375 from our smoke ring experiment. 344 00:14:09,542 --> 00:14:10,750 That is not wind. 345 00:14:10,875 --> 00:14:12,833 THOMAS: No. There's no way. 346 00:14:13,042 --> 00:14:16,125 Okay, so now I want to show you another place 347 00:14:16,292 --> 00:14:18,542 where our anomalies tend to cluster. 348 00:14:18,708 --> 00:14:20,542 The location you see here 349 00:14:20,708 --> 00:14:22,875 bordering on the Dry Gulch Creek 350 00:14:23,042 --> 00:14:26,167 in the south field near the southern boundary of the bubble. 351 00:14:26,375 --> 00:14:28,542 TRAVIS: The south field is one of the strangest places 352 00:14:28,708 --> 00:14:31,667 on the ranch and is where we've encountered all kinds 353 00:14:31,875 --> 00:14:33,250 of disturbing phenomena. 354 00:14:34,375 --> 00:14:36,583 Whoa! What was that purple light over there? 355 00:14:36,750 --> 00:14:38,250 TRAVIS: Like UAPs... 356 00:14:38,375 --> 00:14:42,042 According to the GPS, you're 5,000 feet underground. 357 00:14:42,208 --> 00:14:43,583 TRAVIS: That's crazy, man. 358 00:14:43,750 --> 00:14:45,958 ...erroneous GPS data... 359 00:14:46,125 --> 00:14:47,625 THOMAS: Look at those fangs. 360 00:14:47,833 --> 00:14:49,458 TRAVIS: We got a dead animal right here! 361 00:14:49,667 --> 00:14:52,208 ...and even the carcass of a mysterious wolflike creature 362 00:14:52,375 --> 00:14:54,792 that we found in Dry Gulch Creek. 363 00:14:54,917 --> 00:14:56,250 But this year, 364 00:14:56,458 --> 00:14:57,917 when we investigated the southern boundary 365 00:14:58,083 --> 00:14:59,958 of the bubble near the creek, 366 00:15:00,125 --> 00:15:02,875 we were totally stunned by what we found. 367 00:15:03,042 --> 00:15:05,667 ERIK: So, Travis, I think it would be appropriate 368 00:15:05,833 --> 00:15:07,167 to talk about what we've experienced 369 00:15:07,375 --> 00:15:09,625 -this year with the river walk. -TRAVIS: Yeah. 370 00:15:09,792 --> 00:15:11,333 Well, you know, we started right there 371 00:15:11,542 --> 00:15:14,833 where the bubble, uh, crosses Dry Gulch Creek. 372 00:15:14,958 --> 00:15:18,500 We took kayaks and instrumented them with GPS, 373 00:15:18,667 --> 00:15:21,333 gamma ray detection equipment, we had a sonar, 374 00:15:21,500 --> 00:15:25,917 TriField meters, and as we moved down 375 00:15:26,083 --> 00:15:29,333 the creek, those TriField meters went to zero 376 00:15:29,500 --> 00:15:35,042 and maintained that measurement without fluctuating at all. 377 00:15:36,708 --> 00:15:39,458 Guess what the dadgum TriField meter's reading right now. 378 00:15:39,667 --> 00:15:41,458 -THOMAS: What? -Zero, zero. 379 00:15:41,583 --> 00:15:44,583 As we approached the barrier of the bubble, first, 380 00:15:44,750 --> 00:15:47,625 the gauges on our radiation detectors went to zero. 381 00:15:47,708 --> 00:15:50,417 Any normal environment should yield small readings 382 00:15:50,583 --> 00:15:52,000 for radiation. 383 00:15:52,208 --> 00:15:54,917 It was like we were in some kind of dead zone. 384 00:15:55,125 --> 00:15:57,875 And then the data 385 00:15:58,042 --> 00:16:01,375 from our GPS sensors dove deep below the ground. 386 00:16:02,375 --> 00:16:04,042 ERIK: Jim, I'd like to have you comment 387 00:16:04,208 --> 00:16:05,917 about the experiences that you've had 388 00:16:06,083 --> 00:16:07,667 in this part of the, uh, the ranch. 389 00:16:07,875 --> 00:16:09,333 ROYSTON: Yeah, and in particular, 390 00:16:09,458 --> 00:16:12,167 the day you were doing the river walk, I was 391 00:16:12,333 --> 00:16:15,250 ten feet outside the bubble with my base station, 392 00:16:15,417 --> 00:16:18,833 flying the drone just outside of it. 393 00:16:19,042 --> 00:16:23,333 And we got just enormous amounts of anomalous activity. 394 00:16:24,708 --> 00:16:26,042 (drone playing indistinct automated message) 395 00:16:26,208 --> 00:16:27,708 TRAVIS: After what we experienced 396 00:16:27,875 --> 00:16:29,667 with the instruments in our kayaks, 397 00:16:29,875 --> 00:16:31,500 we had Jim see if he would be able 398 00:16:31,667 --> 00:16:34,542 to fly his drone through the southern barrier of the bubble. 399 00:16:34,667 --> 00:16:36,875 -(beeping) -Okay, this is an interesting one, everybody. 400 00:16:37,042 --> 00:16:40,833 It thinks there's an aircraft approaching 401 00:16:41,042 --> 00:16:44,000 and doesn't want to go do its flight plan. 402 00:16:44,208 --> 00:16:46,292 TRAVIS: It was just unbelievable. 403 00:16:46,458 --> 00:16:48,292 The drone was reporting a warning signal 404 00:16:48,458 --> 00:16:51,167 that some kind of aircraft was nearby. 405 00:16:51,292 --> 00:16:53,042 But there was nothing that we could see. 406 00:16:53,208 --> 00:16:56,167 So, was it the bubble's barrier that the drone detected, 407 00:16:56,375 --> 00:17:00,208 or maybe an invisible UAP that came from the bubble? 408 00:17:01,208 --> 00:17:04,458 How many, uh, different instruments 409 00:17:04,625 --> 00:17:07,792 have exhibited an anomalous response to the bubble? 410 00:17:07,875 --> 00:17:10,083 -Lord. -(laughter) 411 00:17:10,292 --> 00:17:11,792 -All of 'em. -Uh, every one we have. 412 00:17:11,917 --> 00:17:13,250 Every single instrument we've got, I think. 413 00:17:13,375 --> 00:17:15,375 ERIK: That's not an exaggeration. 414 00:17:15,542 --> 00:17:18,333 Anything technological seems to respond 415 00:17:18,500 --> 00:17:20,500 to this membrane or bubble boundary. 416 00:17:20,583 --> 00:17:22,167 GARRY: So, how tight 417 00:17:22,292 --> 00:17:23,500 -is the boundary? -TRAVIS: We don't know. 418 00:17:23,667 --> 00:17:25,917 And we don't know that it's not fluctuating, 419 00:17:26,083 --> 00:17:27,375 or it may be rippling irregularly. 420 00:17:27,542 --> 00:17:29,125 So we really don't know. 421 00:17:29,250 --> 00:17:30,667 BRANDON; Also, there is 422 00:17:30,833 --> 00:17:33,000 some correlation, it appears, 423 00:17:33,167 --> 00:17:36,500 between the bubble and the potential 424 00:17:36,708 --> 00:17:40,042 unidentified aerial phenomena or UFO activity 425 00:17:40,167 --> 00:17:41,417 that seems to appear above this ranch 426 00:17:41,583 --> 00:17:44,250 simultaneous with experimental activity. 427 00:17:44,417 --> 00:17:47,125 TRAVIS: Yes, like what we saw during 428 00:17:47,250 --> 00:17:49,500 the laser experiments with Nu-Salt, right? 429 00:17:49,667 --> 00:17:52,917 Absolutely. We've literally energized 430 00:17:53,083 --> 00:17:55,583 the bubble with this laser beam current, 431 00:17:55,750 --> 00:17:57,542 -and we see a reaction. -Wow. 432 00:17:57,708 --> 00:17:59,708 ERIK: Okay, so let's take a look. 433 00:18:04,917 --> 00:18:05,708 ERIK: Okay, so let's take a look. 434 00:18:06,958 --> 00:18:08,333 TRAVIS: This is from 435 00:18:08,542 --> 00:18:10,833 the laser experiments with Nu-Salt, right? 436 00:18:11,042 --> 00:18:13,958 Yes. We talked about energizing the bubble. 437 00:18:14,125 --> 00:18:16,167 You know, dump some energy into this thing, 438 00:18:16,292 --> 00:18:18,917 like we did with those explosive detonations. 439 00:18:19,083 --> 00:18:22,083 And the idea is that we may see changes. 440 00:18:22,250 --> 00:18:24,833 TRAVIS: We had six sets of 441 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,500 red, blue and green two-kilowatt lasers 442 00:18:27,667 --> 00:18:31,042 that put beams up into the air from east to west, 443 00:18:31,208 --> 00:18:34,000 beaming up through and across the bubble. 444 00:18:34,208 --> 00:18:35,917 And we actually had something fly through 445 00:18:36,042 --> 00:18:38,500 -one of the lasers. -That's right. 446 00:18:39,750 --> 00:18:42,542 TRAVIS: In order to see how different colored laser beams 447 00:18:42,667 --> 00:18:45,083 might be affected when they were projected through the bubble, 448 00:18:45,250 --> 00:18:46,542 a team from Nu-Salt Lasers 449 00:18:46,708 --> 00:18:51,083 set up 18 laser cannons all around the ranch. 450 00:18:51,250 --> 00:18:53,167 We're going to turn the lasers on. 451 00:18:55,250 --> 00:18:56,833 -Whoa. -TIM: Right there. 452 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,125 ROYSTON: Whoa. We got something moving. 453 00:18:59,208 --> 00:19:01,083 TRAVIS: After a UAP appeared right 454 00:19:01,250 --> 00:19:04,000 at the start of the experiment, a number of the laser cannons 455 00:19:04,167 --> 00:19:05,792 started malfunctioning and shutting off 456 00:19:05,958 --> 00:19:07,833 for no explainable reason. 457 00:19:09,042 --> 00:19:12,333 But then a member of the Nu-Salt team, 458 00:19:12,542 --> 00:19:14,542 who was stationed at the drill site, snapped 459 00:19:14,708 --> 00:19:16,958 one of the most incredibly timed photos 460 00:19:17,083 --> 00:19:19,042 we've ever seen on Skinwalker Ranch. 461 00:19:19,250 --> 00:19:21,208 Oh, what is that? 462 00:19:21,375 --> 00:19:25,250 A UAP actually flying through one of the lasers. 463 00:19:25,375 --> 00:19:27,667 So, did the UAPs we saw that night come 464 00:19:27,833 --> 00:19:29,208 from inside the bubble 465 00:19:29,375 --> 00:19:31,667 and cause all those equipment malfunctions? 466 00:19:31,833 --> 00:19:34,083 BRANDON: We are documenting 467 00:19:34,208 --> 00:19:36,667 technology and 468 00:19:36,792 --> 00:19:39,167 manipulation of our systems 469 00:19:39,292 --> 00:19:42,125 that really has no easy explanation. 470 00:19:42,292 --> 00:19:45,000 -Correct? -Right. 471 00:19:45,125 --> 00:19:46,708 We better hope it's aliens, right? 472 00:19:46,875 --> 00:19:48,583 -Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. -'Cause if it's our near peers, 473 00:19:48,708 --> 00:19:50,500 then they've got a capability that we don't have. 474 00:19:50,667 --> 00:19:52,167 LANCE: These are serious questions. 475 00:19:52,375 --> 00:19:55,042 -TRAVIS: Yep. -I mean, really serious. 476 00:19:55,208 --> 00:19:57,667 Even more reason why we need to do what we're doing. 477 00:19:57,833 --> 00:19:59,625 ERIK: So, let's go 478 00:19:59,792 --> 00:20:03,500 to the eastern boundary of this bubble structure 479 00:20:03,625 --> 00:20:05,792 and talk about what we've experienced 480 00:20:05,958 --> 00:20:08,167 in our engagement here. 481 00:20:08,333 --> 00:20:11,000 So, we had a... what we call helikite. 482 00:20:11,208 --> 00:20:12,917 It's a, a helium ballon 483 00:20:13,125 --> 00:20:15,917 that's also affixed to a kitelike fixture. 484 00:20:18,292 --> 00:20:19,708 DILLON: Little bit more. 485 00:20:19,875 --> 00:20:21,375 TRAVIS: The helikite was an attempt 486 00:20:21,542 --> 00:20:23,958 to take a sustained collection of data 487 00:20:24,125 --> 00:20:25,333 in the barrier of the bubble. 488 00:20:26,292 --> 00:20:29,000 Thomas towed it on a UTV and parked it 489 00:20:29,208 --> 00:20:33,500 at an altitude of about 200 feet right in the eastern barrier. 490 00:20:33,667 --> 00:20:35,542 There, it was collecting GPS data 491 00:20:35,708 --> 00:20:38,208 and transmitting a radio frequency signal 492 00:20:38,417 --> 00:20:41,667 at 1.2 gigahertz for us to monitor for interference. 493 00:20:41,792 --> 00:20:44,667 ERIK: Oh, oh, oh. Oh. 494 00:20:44,875 --> 00:20:47,625 TRAVIS: Well, first, our GPS data somehow got pushed 495 00:20:47,750 --> 00:20:49,750 several hundred feet underground, 496 00:20:49,917 --> 00:20:52,958 just like we've seen at other parts of the bubble's barrier. 497 00:20:53,125 --> 00:20:57,542 And then we detected a second 1.2 gigahertz signal... 498 00:20:57,708 --> 00:20:59,542 Wow. Look at that. 499 00:20:59,708 --> 00:21:02,917 ...as if something had cloned our signal 500 00:21:03,083 --> 00:21:04,583 and sent it back at us. 501 00:21:04,708 --> 00:21:06,667 Who or what could have done that? 502 00:21:06,833 --> 00:21:09,333 That was unbelievable. You know, just... 503 00:21:09,542 --> 00:21:12,000 The behavior was completely crazy. 504 00:21:12,125 --> 00:21:13,458 TRAVIS: During this experiment, 505 00:21:13,625 --> 00:21:14,958 we set rockets up there and launched them 506 00:21:15,125 --> 00:21:18,750 due west to fly through the barrier. 507 00:21:18,875 --> 00:21:20,500 ROYSTON: It really looked 508 00:21:20,708 --> 00:21:23,500 like there is some kind of shield there. 509 00:21:23,667 --> 00:21:25,500 TRAVIS: We could hardly believe it 510 00:21:25,667 --> 00:21:27,708 when the bubble's barriers seemed 511 00:21:27,875 --> 00:21:30,625 to stop Jim Royston's drone from entering it. 512 00:21:30,792 --> 00:21:32,542 But during this helikite experiment, 513 00:21:32,708 --> 00:21:35,500 it appeared to do the same thing to our rockets. 514 00:21:37,625 --> 00:21:39,500 The first one that we launched at the bubble 515 00:21:39,667 --> 00:21:41,792 turned and flew north around the perimeter. 516 00:21:43,333 --> 00:21:44,542 Rocket's hot. 517 00:21:46,333 --> 00:21:48,042 Oh, look out! It went the wrong way! 518 00:21:48,208 --> 00:21:50,875 And the second rocket looked like it was deflected 519 00:21:51,042 --> 00:21:53,833 in the opposite direction and flew to the south. 520 00:21:53,958 --> 00:21:55,125 What is this thing? 521 00:21:55,292 --> 00:21:56,958 ERIK: I got some interesting hits 522 00:21:57,042 --> 00:21:59,167 in the high-speed cameras. 523 00:21:59,333 --> 00:22:01,417 TRAVIS: We still don't know that answer. 524 00:22:01,542 --> 00:22:04,167 But when we checked our high-speed camera video 525 00:22:04,375 --> 00:22:06,833 taken during the experiment, once again 526 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:11,417 we captured images of something that may be connected to it. 527 00:22:11,542 --> 00:22:12,875 That is just unbelievable. 528 00:22:15,542 --> 00:22:18,500 The bubble-- it's bizarre. Extremely bizarre. 529 00:22:18,708 --> 00:22:20,375 Let me tell you how I get my head around this. 530 00:22:20,542 --> 00:22:22,500 I say, either there is something 531 00:22:22,625 --> 00:22:24,875 about this bubble that is affecting the rocket, 532 00:22:25,042 --> 00:22:28,000 or it is affecting the things, like, perhaps UAPs, 533 00:22:28,167 --> 00:22:30,625 that affect the rocket. 534 00:22:30,792 --> 00:22:32,333 I think poking the hornet's nest, 535 00:22:32,500 --> 00:22:35,208 which we all kind of chuckled about initially, 536 00:22:35,375 --> 00:22:39,625 has led us to having hard, actionable data... 537 00:22:39,792 --> 00:22:41,167 -Yeah. -...documenting the reality 538 00:22:41,375 --> 00:22:42,833 of what we're seeing. 539 00:22:42,958 --> 00:22:44,000 TRAVIS: You know, 540 00:22:44,208 --> 00:22:46,250 we've taken so many data points 541 00:22:46,417 --> 00:22:49,583 around the periphery, inside, outside the bubble. 542 00:22:49,750 --> 00:22:52,292 Uh, I can't wait till you guys really 543 00:22:52,417 --> 00:22:53,500 see us start painting that more. 544 00:22:53,708 --> 00:22:55,333 BRANDON: Well, we're using 545 00:22:55,500 --> 00:22:58,875 some of the most advanced scientific equipment 546 00:22:59,083 --> 00:23:02,917 in service to mapping this anomaly, 547 00:23:03,083 --> 00:23:04,500 and something is happening. 548 00:23:04,708 --> 00:23:06,792 GARRY: What's the next set 549 00:23:06,917 --> 00:23:10,042 of preliminary data that needs to be created moving forward? 550 00:23:10,208 --> 00:23:13,292 So, where the boundary crosses 551 00:23:13,458 --> 00:23:16,000 the driveway on the east side here, 552 00:23:16,208 --> 00:23:18,458 we started right there placing poles 553 00:23:18,583 --> 00:23:21,875 every 42 and a half meters from each other. 554 00:23:22,042 --> 00:23:24,000 We start at the driveway. That's post one. 555 00:23:24,167 --> 00:23:26,000 And the idea, 556 00:23:26,167 --> 00:23:27,667 at least for future reference, 557 00:23:27,750 --> 00:23:29,708 is that each one of these posts 558 00:23:29,875 --> 00:23:32,333 that are numbered has a sensor packet on it, 559 00:23:32,458 --> 00:23:34,708 real time, always monitoring. 560 00:23:34,875 --> 00:23:37,000 ERIK: Gentlemen, I mentioned at the outset of our meeting 561 00:23:37,167 --> 00:23:38,917 that, you know, there were basically two kinds 562 00:23:39,042 --> 00:23:40,917 of deliverables coming out of our work this year. 563 00:23:41,042 --> 00:23:43,250 There is the measurement side of things, 564 00:23:43,417 --> 00:23:44,625 the observational side of things, 565 00:23:44,833 --> 00:23:46,333 but also a very physical side. 566 00:23:46,500 --> 00:23:48,792 There is one location in particular 567 00:23:48,917 --> 00:23:50,958 that we've been focusing on, as you know, 568 00:23:51,083 --> 00:23:52,500 and this is what we refer to as the drill site. 569 00:23:52,708 --> 00:23:54,708 BRANDON: The drilling activity 570 00:23:54,875 --> 00:23:58,000 has been a key aspect of our investigation 571 00:23:58,208 --> 00:23:59,833 and our focus, spanning years, 572 00:23:59,958 --> 00:24:03,375 to unearth what really lies beneath the mesa. 573 00:24:03,542 --> 00:24:05,083 We inherited a narrative 574 00:24:05,292 --> 00:24:09,500 of all kinds of underground features below the ranch. 575 00:24:09,667 --> 00:24:11,542 Everything from vast tunnel systems 576 00:24:11,667 --> 00:24:13,875 to even as far as underground bases. 577 00:24:14,042 --> 00:24:17,333 And we have gone exploring, looking for something 578 00:24:17,417 --> 00:24:18,833 that might fit 579 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,375 this description. 580 00:24:21,500 --> 00:24:22,833 And what happened instead was 581 00:24:23,042 --> 00:24:25,833 our drill ended up hitting a hard object 582 00:24:26,042 --> 00:24:26,958 that we didn't anticipate. 583 00:24:34,792 --> 00:24:36,167 THOMAS: At the mesa drill site, 584 00:24:36,375 --> 00:24:37,833 our drill ended up hitting 585 00:24:38,042 --> 00:24:40,333 a hard object that we didn't anticipate. 586 00:24:40,542 --> 00:24:43,167 ERIK: I could actually bring up a visual 587 00:24:43,375 --> 00:24:45,667 of that ground-penetrating radar data. 588 00:24:45,833 --> 00:24:46,875 So, if you look right at this picture 589 00:24:47,042 --> 00:24:48,667 that Erik's got up here, 590 00:24:48,833 --> 00:24:52,667 this is what the GPR data tells us is in the mesa. 591 00:24:52,750 --> 00:24:54,458 ERIC: Hmm. Wow. 592 00:24:54,625 --> 00:24:57,042 THOMAS: We determined the best route would be, 593 00:24:57,208 --> 00:24:59,167 rather than trying to destroy the object that we're trying 594 00:24:59,375 --> 00:25:02,125 to study, it would be better to go 595 00:25:02,250 --> 00:25:03,500 up each side of it. 596 00:25:03,708 --> 00:25:05,000 TRAVIS: For the last three years, 597 00:25:05,125 --> 00:25:07,542 we've been drilling into the mesa, 598 00:25:07,708 --> 00:25:10,667 where we detected what appears to be a massive object 599 00:25:10,875 --> 00:25:13,458 that's surrounded by a number of smaller anomalies. 600 00:25:13,625 --> 00:25:16,167 And after finding manufactured metal flakes 601 00:25:16,333 --> 00:25:18,833 in the drilling spoils back in 2021, 602 00:25:19,042 --> 00:25:22,500 we devised a plan to create two boreholes on either side 603 00:25:22,708 --> 00:25:24,500 of the large object 604 00:25:24,708 --> 00:25:26,833 that would run all the way up through the mesa. 605 00:25:26,958 --> 00:25:29,833 Then we could insert scanning devices to better study 606 00:25:29,958 --> 00:25:31,792 what these buried things actually are. 607 00:25:31,917 --> 00:25:33,875 Check that out. 608 00:25:34,042 --> 00:25:36,583 TRAVIS: Despite a lot of strange drilling malfunctions, 609 00:25:36,708 --> 00:25:39,583 we were able to complete Borehole 1 last year. 610 00:25:39,708 --> 00:25:42,917 But things got a lot crazier and even more amazing this year 611 00:25:43,125 --> 00:25:44,750 as we drilled Borehole 2. 612 00:25:44,875 --> 00:25:48,375 So it's great to be able to show other scientific experts 613 00:25:48,542 --> 00:25:51,667 what we found this year and see what they think. 614 00:25:51,875 --> 00:25:56,958 We ended up finding, uh, metal flakes in the spoils 615 00:25:57,125 --> 00:25:59,458 that came out of the mesa. 616 00:25:59,625 --> 00:26:01,750 ERIK: You know, the analysis of these flakes 617 00:26:01,917 --> 00:26:03,500 suggests that they have some very interesting 618 00:26:03,708 --> 00:26:06,375 trace elements in them. 619 00:26:06,583 --> 00:26:08,167 TRAVIS: Yeah, the material 620 00:26:08,375 --> 00:26:11,667 was mostly tellurium on one side and europium on the other. 621 00:26:11,833 --> 00:26:14,375 Also, there's vanadium in it. 622 00:26:14,542 --> 00:26:16,417 And what's interesting is, 623 00:26:16,542 --> 00:26:18,833 the metals appeared to be 624 00:26:19,042 --> 00:26:20,750 most likely manufactured in a blast furnace. 625 00:26:20,875 --> 00:26:23,542 So how did those things get 626 00:26:23,708 --> 00:26:26,458 hundreds of feet inside the mesa? 627 00:26:26,542 --> 00:26:28,250 How far inside the mesa? 628 00:26:28,375 --> 00:26:30,458 THOMAS: As best as we can gauge, somewhere between 629 00:26:30,542 --> 00:26:33,167 200 and 300 feet into the mesa horizontally. 630 00:26:33,333 --> 00:26:35,083 That's remarkable. 631 00:26:35,250 --> 00:26:36,167 -Yeah. -Mm-hmm. 632 00:26:36,250 --> 00:26:37,042 TRAVIS: And it's almost 633 00:26:37,208 --> 00:26:38,958 like something crashed 634 00:26:39,125 --> 00:26:40,458 there in the mesa 635 00:26:40,625 --> 00:26:42,750 and created all these little debris chunks. 636 00:26:42,917 --> 00:26:46,292 That's what this GPR data looks like. 637 00:26:46,458 --> 00:26:48,000 ERIC: So, what you're finding 638 00:26:48,167 --> 00:26:50,167 makes absolutely no sense. It is truly anomalous. 639 00:26:50,333 --> 00:26:51,792 -Yeah. -THOMAS: Well, 640 00:26:51,875 --> 00:26:53,625 as we continue those drilling exercises, 641 00:26:53,792 --> 00:26:56,667 we hit something that actually broke the drill 642 00:26:56,833 --> 00:26:58,667 -in Borehole 2. -That's right. 643 00:26:58,792 --> 00:27:00,667 The drill rod hit something, 644 00:27:00,833 --> 00:27:01,958 and they couldn't move forward, 645 00:27:02,125 --> 00:27:03,500 and they put, like, 646 00:27:03,625 --> 00:27:05,208 15,000 pounds of pressure 647 00:27:05,375 --> 00:27:06,583 against it for 30 minutes 648 00:27:06,750 --> 00:27:07,958 and it didn't move. 649 00:27:08,958 --> 00:27:10,458 ERIK: Frankly, we don't know 650 00:27:10,542 --> 00:27:13,625 what the heck it is that's turning this-- 651 00:27:13,792 --> 00:27:15,792 see, this is a brand-new drill bit-- 652 00:27:15,958 --> 00:27:19,500 into this, or I should say this. 653 00:27:19,667 --> 00:27:22,250 Wow, that thing is damaged. 654 00:27:22,375 --> 00:27:24,833 KYLE: Holy crap, dude. 655 00:27:24,958 --> 00:27:27,000 Tooth is almost completely gone. 656 00:27:27,167 --> 00:27:28,042 TRAVIS: As the team from Mark Construction Drilling 657 00:27:28,208 --> 00:27:29,875 worked on Borehole 2, 658 00:27:30,042 --> 00:27:32,042 at several different spots, they hit 659 00:27:32,208 --> 00:27:35,333 obstructions that destroyed their drill bits. 660 00:27:35,542 --> 00:27:39,667 These bits are designed to cut through steel and granite. 661 00:27:39,792 --> 00:27:41,458 KYLE: It's completely 662 00:27:41,625 --> 00:27:43,708 -welded shut. -It's friction-welded. 663 00:27:43,875 --> 00:27:45,417 -Mm-hmm. -That's crazy. 664 00:27:45,583 --> 00:27:47,500 And when Borehole 2 finally 665 00:27:47,583 --> 00:27:50,500 reached almost 470 feet in, 666 00:27:50,708 --> 00:27:52,083 the drill hit something 667 00:27:52,250 --> 00:27:54,542 that actually caused the bit to wear down 668 00:27:54,708 --> 00:27:56,500 and fuse to the drill rod 669 00:27:56,708 --> 00:27:58,542 like they were welded together. 670 00:27:58,708 --> 00:28:01,417 But the weird thing is, is the beacon 671 00:28:01,583 --> 00:28:03,542 stayed at 73 degrees the whole time. 672 00:28:03,750 --> 00:28:05,750 TRAVIS: But here's the really crazy thing. 673 00:28:05,917 --> 00:28:08,750 The friction needed to cause that kind of damage 674 00:28:08,917 --> 00:28:10,333 should have heated the drill bit 675 00:28:10,500 --> 00:28:12,833 up to over 2,000 degrees, 676 00:28:12,958 --> 00:28:15,583 but it came out completely cool to the touch. 677 00:28:15,750 --> 00:28:18,708 Something very strange had absorbed all that heat. 678 00:28:18,833 --> 00:28:20,125 Take a look at these. 679 00:28:20,333 --> 00:28:22,042 The drillers have never seen anything like this. 680 00:28:22,250 --> 00:28:24,417 They said they've never seen that, ever. 681 00:28:25,542 --> 00:28:26,958 Did anything interesting 682 00:28:27,167 --> 00:28:29,000 come out of the sludge of the drill when it was 683 00:28:29,208 --> 00:28:30,500 impacting that at that point in time? 684 00:28:30,708 --> 00:28:32,042 TRAVIS: Yes, it did. We hired 685 00:28:32,208 --> 00:28:34,875 an archaeologist to set up professional 686 00:28:35,083 --> 00:28:36,917 sifting areas. 687 00:28:37,083 --> 00:28:41,083 And so, he actually, uh, can tell us all about it. Chris? 688 00:28:41,208 --> 00:28:43,417 Uh, my name's Chris Roberts. I'm an archaeologist, 689 00:28:43,583 --> 00:28:45,500 local archaeologist in the Uinta Basin area. 690 00:28:45,708 --> 00:28:48,500 Right in the 472 mark, 691 00:28:48,708 --> 00:28:50,000 they had hit a really hard spot, 692 00:28:50,125 --> 00:28:54,875 and once I got those spoils cleaned up, 693 00:28:55,042 --> 00:28:56,708 then I actually noticed 694 00:28:56,875 --> 00:29:00,375 ceramics that are undeniable material evidence 695 00:29:00,542 --> 00:29:03,500 that something is in the mesa that is not natural. 696 00:29:03,667 --> 00:29:04,667 Wow. 697 00:29:04,750 --> 00:29:06,250 Very interesting. 698 00:29:07,958 --> 00:29:10,750 So, these are some of the specimens that we've collected. 699 00:29:10,917 --> 00:29:12,375 Uh, some of the ceramic materials. 700 00:29:12,542 --> 00:29:14,667 I've, I've enclosed them 701 00:29:14,875 --> 00:29:16,875 in these coin holders, 702 00:29:17,083 --> 00:29:19,708 and we'll just pass those down so you can have a look. 703 00:29:19,917 --> 00:29:21,625 In certain respects, it appears to be 704 00:29:21,833 --> 00:29:23,500 a rather normal 705 00:29:23,667 --> 00:29:26,167 -ceramic composition. -TRAVIS: Yep. 706 00:29:26,292 --> 00:29:28,458 BRANDON: What led you to believe that this material 707 00:29:28,667 --> 00:29:30,833 is indeed manufactured? 708 00:29:31,042 --> 00:29:32,292 TRAVIS: Well, when you measure 709 00:29:32,417 --> 00:29:34,875 the thickness, it's almost exact 710 00:29:35,042 --> 00:29:37,500 over the entire volume of the material, 711 00:29:37,667 --> 00:29:39,792 which suggests it was machined, 712 00:29:39,917 --> 00:29:43,000 molded, or pressed or something because it's very uniform. 713 00:29:44,667 --> 00:29:45,917 -It's mind-blowing. -ERIK: Yes. 714 00:29:46,083 --> 00:29:48,333 So, let me bring up an image. 715 00:29:48,500 --> 00:29:52,458 This is, of course, a scanning electron microscope image 716 00:29:52,583 --> 00:29:56,167 of the feature that I think stood out the most to us. 717 00:29:56,333 --> 00:29:58,167 TRAVIS: So, if you look at the image, 718 00:29:58,333 --> 00:30:03,208 you can see what appears to be a crosshatching pattern. 719 00:30:03,375 --> 00:30:04,833 And under the scanning electron microscope, 720 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,583 there seems to be even more detail. 721 00:30:07,750 --> 00:30:09,750 Now, this is the interesting thing. 722 00:30:11,250 --> 00:30:13,458 ERIK: This is a live recording. 723 00:30:13,583 --> 00:30:15,167 It's been accelerated a bit. 724 00:30:15,292 --> 00:30:17,917 This area here was the area exposed 725 00:30:18,042 --> 00:30:20,000 to the electron beam for an extended time. 726 00:30:20,167 --> 00:30:21,833 TRAVIS: See how, with the exposure, 727 00:30:21,958 --> 00:30:23,958 you see the change in the surface? 728 00:30:24,125 --> 00:30:27,417 -ERIC: Wow. -TRAVIS: Almost instantly, you start seeing holes 729 00:30:27,583 --> 00:30:29,208 open up. 730 00:30:29,375 --> 00:30:31,458 It's almost like if you take a really dried sponge 731 00:30:31,625 --> 00:30:32,833 and you put it in water. 732 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,000 It expands and opens up. 733 00:30:36,167 --> 00:30:38,667 -JIM: Wow. -BRANDON: This is amazing. 734 00:30:38,875 --> 00:30:41,042 Now, when we turned the electron beam 735 00:30:41,208 --> 00:30:44,042 off and let it set for several minutes, 736 00:30:44,208 --> 00:30:47,958 it goes back to the exact same state 737 00:30:48,083 --> 00:30:50,292 that it is at the beginning before exposure. 738 00:30:50,417 --> 00:30:51,333 ROYSTON: Look at that. 739 00:30:51,458 --> 00:30:53,333 Oh, my gosh. 740 00:30:53,542 --> 00:30:56,125 TRAVIS: Now, since this is a reversible process, it does suggest 741 00:30:56,292 --> 00:30:58,833 it's a topology, a geometry that's changing 742 00:30:58,917 --> 00:31:00,875 on its surface. 743 00:31:01,042 --> 00:31:02,333 -It can transform. -BRANDON: Wow. 744 00:31:04,125 --> 00:31:05,417 I have a great deal of experience 745 00:31:05,583 --> 00:31:07,083 in materials characterization, 746 00:31:07,292 --> 00:31:08,792 and I have never seen anything like this. 747 00:31:08,958 --> 00:31:10,583 It's very unusual. 748 00:31:10,708 --> 00:31:11,625 GARRY: Are there any 749 00:31:11,792 --> 00:31:13,625 materials in the last 750 00:31:13,750 --> 00:31:16,667 few hundred years that would 751 00:31:16,833 --> 00:31:21,500 look like this, especially from the local basin? 752 00:31:21,667 --> 00:31:24,125 No, there's nothing like this, uh, 753 00:31:24,292 --> 00:31:26,833 in the area or anywhere that would match it. 754 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,458 ERIC: This is real, tangible evidence 755 00:31:29,625 --> 00:31:31,708 of a physical thing, and you have 756 00:31:31,875 --> 00:31:32,958 several pieces of it, right? 757 00:31:33,125 --> 00:31:35,375 TRAVIS: Yes. There's even more. 758 00:31:41,875 --> 00:31:42,833 ROYSTON: We're just scratching the surface 759 00:31:42,917 --> 00:31:44,542 of the material, literally. 760 00:31:44,708 --> 00:31:46,083 TRAVIS: We did a lot of 761 00:31:46,292 --> 00:31:47,667 testing with this material, as you can guess. 762 00:31:47,833 --> 00:31:49,167 Yes. 763 00:31:49,375 --> 00:31:50,833 TRAVIS: After all the incredible results 764 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,292 our team has gotten 765 00:31:52,458 --> 00:31:54,167 from testing the ceramic materials 766 00:31:54,292 --> 00:31:56,875 that came out of the mesa on Skinwalker Ranch, 767 00:31:57,042 --> 00:31:59,500 it was pretty validating to see the reactions 768 00:31:59,667 --> 00:32:01,417 of other renowned scientists. 769 00:32:01,583 --> 00:32:05,125 But we were just getting to the most fascinating part. 770 00:32:05,250 --> 00:32:06,542 We still aren't sure what it means. 771 00:32:06,708 --> 00:32:08,708 We ran some other experiments 772 00:32:08,917 --> 00:32:10,667 which were even more surprising. 773 00:32:10,875 --> 00:32:12,792 We dropped the ceramic 774 00:32:12,958 --> 00:32:15,542 over a magnet after freezing it in liquid nitrogen, 775 00:32:15,708 --> 00:32:17,958 and it did hover 776 00:32:18,042 --> 00:32:19,500 like the Meissner effect. 777 00:32:19,667 --> 00:32:22,250 That suggests this could be a superconductor. 778 00:32:23,375 --> 00:32:25,458 So you're gonna freeze the sample? 779 00:32:25,625 --> 00:32:27,000 -Yes. -Yes. 780 00:32:27,167 --> 00:32:28,667 A couple weeks ago, 781 00:32:28,833 --> 00:32:30,625 while running additional lab tests 782 00:32:30,708 --> 00:32:33,125 on the ceramic material at Utah Valley University, 783 00:32:33,292 --> 00:32:36,000 we placed a sample in a dish 784 00:32:36,208 --> 00:32:39,583 of -320 degree Fahrenheit liquid nitrogen. 785 00:32:39,708 --> 00:32:41,500 Notice how it's still boiling off? 786 00:32:41,708 --> 00:32:43,500 TRAVIS: Now, a normal ceramic 787 00:32:43,667 --> 00:32:45,417 would have cooled down almost immediately. 788 00:32:45,583 --> 00:32:48,208 But this stuff wouldn't cool down at all, 789 00:32:48,333 --> 00:32:51,958 and the liquid nitrogen kept boiling for several minutes. 790 00:32:52,125 --> 00:32:54,333 It's still boiling away, man. Look at that. 791 00:32:54,500 --> 00:32:57,292 We couldn't believe the heat capacity of this thing. 792 00:32:57,417 --> 00:33:00,042 -BRIAN: Here we go. -TRAVIS: See it? 793 00:33:00,208 --> 00:33:01,167 -Oh, wow. -TRAVIS: You see it? 794 00:33:01,333 --> 00:33:02,583 -It did drift. -It did drift. 795 00:33:02,750 --> 00:33:04,000 When it did finally cool down, 796 00:33:04,167 --> 00:33:06,542 we put a magnet under another dish 797 00:33:06,708 --> 00:33:09,792 and placed the ceramic right over the center of the magnet. 798 00:33:09,875 --> 00:33:12,000 It literally pushed itself away, 799 00:33:12,167 --> 00:33:14,333 meaning it repelled the magnetic field. 800 00:33:14,500 --> 00:33:17,500 This is called the Meissner effect 801 00:33:17,625 --> 00:33:20,458 and suggests that these ceramics could be superconductors. 802 00:33:20,625 --> 00:33:23,542 Superconductors are cutting-edge materials 803 00:33:23,708 --> 00:33:26,000 that scientists are researching and developing 804 00:33:26,167 --> 00:33:28,000 because they have the ability to conduct energy 805 00:33:28,125 --> 00:33:29,875 without any resistance. 806 00:33:30,042 --> 00:33:32,458 Because of that and their ability to repel 807 00:33:32,625 --> 00:33:34,125 a normal magnetic field, 808 00:33:34,208 --> 00:33:37,000 some scientists believe that one day superconductors 809 00:33:37,167 --> 00:33:38,667 could be used to make vehicles 810 00:33:38,833 --> 00:33:42,125 and even spacecraft with advanced propulsion systems 811 00:33:42,292 --> 00:33:43,958 that don't require rocket fuel. 812 00:33:44,083 --> 00:33:47,083 Is it possible that the ceramics we found 813 00:33:47,250 --> 00:33:49,333 in the drilling spoils are superconductors 814 00:33:49,542 --> 00:33:54,042 and are covering whatever the objects are inside the mesa? 815 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,167 BRANDON: Gentlemen, 816 00:33:56,375 --> 00:33:58,042 what would this mean for science? 817 00:33:58,250 --> 00:34:02,292 It could have very, very wide-reaching implications. 818 00:34:02,417 --> 00:34:05,375 It could possibly unlock new methods of propulsion 819 00:34:05,542 --> 00:34:07,125 and energy that we haven't understood yet. 820 00:34:07,292 --> 00:34:09,500 We get the majority of our energy 821 00:34:09,667 --> 00:34:11,333 from burning things, 822 00:34:11,500 --> 00:34:13,000 and something like this could really set us 823 00:34:13,167 --> 00:34:14,708 on a completely different course for the future, 824 00:34:14,917 --> 00:34:16,167 which I think is one of the things 825 00:34:16,333 --> 00:34:17,292 that's so exciting about it. 826 00:34:17,458 --> 00:34:19,167 Yeah. 827 00:34:19,375 --> 00:34:21,083 I can't say that much better than he did, 828 00:34:21,208 --> 00:34:23,792 but I can essentially say that this type of material would 829 00:34:23,958 --> 00:34:26,292 contribute advancements to photonic 830 00:34:26,500 --> 00:34:30,042 and electronic materials technologies and 831 00:34:30,208 --> 00:34:31,917 take us into new directions 832 00:34:32,083 --> 00:34:34,083 that we haven't imagined yet. 833 00:34:34,250 --> 00:34:36,708 TRAVIS: Well, it's an amazing find. 834 00:34:36,833 --> 00:34:39,000 When we took the samples 835 00:34:39,125 --> 00:34:40,792 and had them analyzed, 836 00:34:40,917 --> 00:34:44,208 we did a scanning electron microscope elemental analysis 837 00:34:44,375 --> 00:34:47,458 and based on the materials that is in it, 838 00:34:47,625 --> 00:34:51,167 it looks a lot like the ceramic tiles on the space shuttle. 839 00:34:51,333 --> 00:34:53,167 That's remarkable. 840 00:34:54,208 --> 00:34:55,125 ERIK: In fact, 841 00:34:55,208 --> 00:34:56,583 whatever it is that's 842 00:34:56,708 --> 00:34:58,292 concealed within that mesa, 843 00:34:58,458 --> 00:35:01,167 all of our fragments that have been retrieved indicate 844 00:35:01,292 --> 00:35:02,917 that they may once have been part of a structure. 845 00:35:03,083 --> 00:35:05,250 TRAVIS: So, hopefully 846 00:35:05,417 --> 00:35:07,000 we'll get to the bottom of it and we'll learn more 847 00:35:07,167 --> 00:35:08,583 about what's-what's in the mesa. 848 00:35:11,042 --> 00:35:13,583 I'm wanting to be cautious that we don't 849 00:35:13,708 --> 00:35:16,667 damage that which may lie within the mesa. 850 00:35:16,750 --> 00:35:18,000 Chris, 851 00:35:18,208 --> 00:35:19,500 do you have any advice 852 00:35:19,708 --> 00:35:21,042 or direction for us 853 00:35:21,208 --> 00:35:24,667 as we protect the integrity of this dig site 854 00:35:24,792 --> 00:35:27,500 and prepare for this next year? 855 00:35:27,708 --> 00:35:30,208 Um, you know, preliminarily, I've been looking 856 00:35:30,375 --> 00:35:33,208 at what I would propose for an excavation. 857 00:35:33,375 --> 00:35:35,083 The actual artifacts 858 00:35:35,250 --> 00:35:36,750 seem to start right about where 859 00:35:36,958 --> 00:35:39,167 we get to that intact bedrock level. 860 00:35:39,292 --> 00:35:42,208 So I propose we come from the top of the mesa... 861 00:35:43,167 --> 00:35:44,625 ...make it safe, 862 00:35:44,750 --> 00:35:47,000 and then we can go and excavate that way 863 00:35:47,167 --> 00:35:48,542 right in through the front of the mesa. 864 00:35:48,708 --> 00:35:51,292 I do believe we'll find plenty more 865 00:35:51,500 --> 00:35:53,042 ceramics in there and then we'll find 866 00:35:53,208 --> 00:35:55,583 whatever else might be in the mesa as well. 867 00:35:56,708 --> 00:35:58,167 BRANDON: We've not only seen physical, 868 00:35:58,375 --> 00:36:01,208 tangible evidence of something unusual 869 00:36:01,417 --> 00:36:04,500 going on inside the mesa, but we're also documenting 870 00:36:04,667 --> 00:36:07,583 for the first time some of the anomalies that confirm 871 00:36:07,750 --> 00:36:10,625 the existence of the bubble above the property. 872 00:36:10,792 --> 00:36:14,042 Now we need to find the answers to why it exists 873 00:36:14,208 --> 00:36:15,792 on Skinwalker Ranch. 874 00:36:15,958 --> 00:36:20,167 Well, gentlemen, in light of the incredible discoveries 875 00:36:20,250 --> 00:36:23,958 that have been made at Skinwalker Ranch most recently 876 00:36:24,125 --> 00:36:26,500 and the direction that we're heading, 877 00:36:26,708 --> 00:36:28,083 we have engaged 878 00:36:28,208 --> 00:36:31,333 with a sister company to OmniTeq. 879 00:36:32,292 --> 00:36:34,333 A sister company who is 880 00:36:34,500 --> 00:36:37,417 a SpaceX integrator... 881 00:36:37,583 --> 00:36:39,167 Oh, wow. 882 00:36:39,375 --> 00:36:41,500 ...that will aid us in our investigation 883 00:36:41,667 --> 00:36:44,542 and take this research to the next level. 884 00:36:52,458 --> 00:36:53,875 BRANDON: This coming year 885 00:36:54,083 --> 00:36:57,125 we'll place a satellite in orbit. 886 00:36:57,292 --> 00:36:59,250 A satellite that will specifically 887 00:36:59,417 --> 00:37:01,208 focus on the ranch 888 00:37:01,375 --> 00:37:03,958 and take our investigation 889 00:37:04,125 --> 00:37:05,125 to the next level. So, with that, 890 00:37:05,292 --> 00:37:06,625 I'd like to introduce 891 00:37:06,792 --> 00:37:11,167 Chad Brinkley, the CEO of SEOPS, in. 892 00:37:12,458 --> 00:37:14,583 -Hey, Chad. Welcome. -Thank you, Brandon. 893 00:37:14,708 --> 00:37:15,917 CHAD: Thank you, Brandon, for having me. 894 00:37:16,083 --> 00:37:17,500 Gentlemen. 895 00:37:17,667 --> 00:37:19,458 TRAVIS: Now, this is pretty awesome. 896 00:37:19,583 --> 00:37:22,667 Ranch owner Brandon Fugal, Jim Royston, 897 00:37:22,750 --> 00:37:25,792 Sam Deriso, and their colleagues at OmniTeq 898 00:37:25,958 --> 00:37:28,208 have arranged with a space exploration company 899 00:37:28,375 --> 00:37:29,667 known as SEOPS 900 00:37:29,875 --> 00:37:31,667 for a satellite to be launched into orbit 901 00:37:31,875 --> 00:37:35,417 on one of SpaceX's Falcon 9 rockets in the coming months. 902 00:37:35,583 --> 00:37:38,292 And it's going to be dedicated to helping us 903 00:37:38,417 --> 00:37:41,417 in our investigation on Skinwalker Ranch. 904 00:37:42,542 --> 00:37:44,000 CHAD: I got the call from Brandon 905 00:37:44,167 --> 00:37:46,250 and Jim on this exciting opportunity 906 00:37:46,417 --> 00:37:48,375 to fly a satellite to space 907 00:37:48,542 --> 00:37:50,167 under a very aggressive timeline. 908 00:37:50,375 --> 00:37:52,125 ROYSTON: Yes. From space 909 00:37:52,292 --> 00:37:54,500 to ground and air, we have a capability 910 00:37:54,708 --> 00:37:56,875 to push data up, pull data down. 911 00:37:57,042 --> 00:37:58,292 That's our goal. 912 00:37:58,500 --> 00:38:00,000 CHAD: Yes. So, this is 913 00:38:00,208 --> 00:38:01,792 a Skinwalker Ranch satellite. 914 00:38:03,583 --> 00:38:05,792 This will be a 6U spacecraft. 915 00:38:05,958 --> 00:38:07,250 While small, you can put a lot 916 00:38:07,417 --> 00:38:09,250 of capability in a 6U spacecraft. 917 00:38:09,417 --> 00:38:11,292 TRAVIS: A 6U CubeSat 918 00:38:11,458 --> 00:38:13,958 is a class of miniaturized satellites. 919 00:38:14,083 --> 00:38:15,542 These compact units are designed 920 00:38:15,708 --> 00:38:18,125 to carry various instruments, cameras, 921 00:38:18,292 --> 00:38:20,250 and other space-related technologies. 922 00:38:20,375 --> 00:38:21,833 ROYSTON: Over the next several months, 923 00:38:22,042 --> 00:38:23,875 we will put together 924 00:38:24,042 --> 00:38:27,167 what each component we could squeeze onto this thing 925 00:38:27,375 --> 00:38:28,958 and have mission success with. 926 00:38:29,125 --> 00:38:30,667 ERIK: Pretty amazing. 927 00:38:30,833 --> 00:38:32,958 TRAVIS: We've detected so many strange 928 00:38:33,125 --> 00:38:35,000 energy signals, anomalies, 929 00:38:35,167 --> 00:38:39,292 and even UAPs between 30 feet and 10,000 feet in the air. 930 00:38:39,500 --> 00:38:42,292 But using rockets, drones and helicopters 931 00:38:42,500 --> 00:38:44,083 to try and pinpoint where they're coming from 932 00:38:44,250 --> 00:38:45,500 is very limited. 933 00:38:45,708 --> 00:38:49,000 Having a 6U satellite in space 934 00:38:49,208 --> 00:38:52,583 that will pass over Skinwalker Ranch once every day 935 00:38:52,708 --> 00:38:55,500 will give our team incredible capabilities 936 00:38:55,625 --> 00:38:58,250 to search for the source of all the phenomena 937 00:38:58,375 --> 00:39:00,542 that we keep encountering on the ranch. 938 00:39:00,708 --> 00:39:03,458 Now we can send all kinds of signals, 939 00:39:03,583 --> 00:39:07,625 GPS data, and more from the ground to space and back, 940 00:39:07,833 --> 00:39:10,000 scouring the entire range in an instant. 941 00:39:10,167 --> 00:39:13,375 This could lead to major revelations about the bubble 942 00:39:13,542 --> 00:39:16,417 and all the things we've seen across the ranch. 943 00:39:17,417 --> 00:39:18,500 BRANDON: Well, we'll look forward 944 00:39:18,667 --> 00:39:21,292 to the weeks ahead, planning 945 00:39:21,500 --> 00:39:24,583 and making this a successful 946 00:39:24,750 --> 00:39:26,500 addition to our 947 00:39:26,667 --> 00:39:29,042 expanded scientific platform and effort. 948 00:39:29,250 --> 00:39:31,083 CHAD: Yeah. Well, we appreciate you having us, Brandon. 949 00:39:31,292 --> 00:39:34,083 -BRANDON: Thank you so much. -Yes, sir. 950 00:39:35,875 --> 00:39:38,667 Really excited about how the next year's investigation 951 00:39:38,833 --> 00:39:41,583 will come about, and when we're sitting around this table 952 00:39:41,750 --> 00:39:43,167 a year from now, 953 00:39:43,375 --> 00:39:44,958 I'm confident that we will 954 00:39:45,083 --> 00:39:46,458 achieve some great things. 955 00:39:47,708 --> 00:39:48,958 I'm excited. I look forward to it. 956 00:39:49,125 --> 00:39:50,292 And it's going to be unfolding 957 00:39:50,458 --> 00:39:52,167 some more information, and hopefully we'll have 958 00:39:52,375 --> 00:39:55,333 some questions answered, and I know, in science, 959 00:39:55,500 --> 00:39:57,583 we'll have more questions unanswered, 960 00:39:57,792 --> 00:39:59,042 so... 961 00:39:59,208 --> 00:40:01,333 I mean, this summer's investigation was amazing. 962 00:40:01,542 --> 00:40:03,250 I'm thinking, okay, what's next, right? 963 00:40:03,417 --> 00:40:04,458 What's the ranch going to show us? 964 00:40:04,625 --> 00:40:06,375 ERIC: Well, I think we grow 965 00:40:06,542 --> 00:40:08,125 as a society 966 00:40:08,292 --> 00:40:09,333 from a technological standpoint 967 00:40:09,542 --> 00:40:11,625 when we directly confront the unknown. 968 00:40:11,708 --> 00:40:13,875 GARRY: What I find so fascinating about 969 00:40:14,042 --> 00:40:15,500 Skinwalker Ranch is that 970 00:40:15,667 --> 00:40:17,708 all of the people who are here 971 00:40:17,875 --> 00:40:20,708 and the people before-- Bigelow, et cetera-- 972 00:40:20,875 --> 00:40:24,875 have created this environment where science has taken root. 973 00:40:25,083 --> 00:40:27,083 What you guys-- Travis, Erik, 974 00:40:27,208 --> 00:40:30,417 and everybody else-- uh, have done 975 00:40:30,583 --> 00:40:32,917 is you've created data that allows us to start 976 00:40:33,083 --> 00:40:36,333 to think about conclusions, and that really excites me. 977 00:40:36,542 --> 00:40:39,125 Well, with that, let's open a new chapter, 978 00:40:39,292 --> 00:40:40,167 look forward 979 00:40:40,375 --> 00:40:42,833 to, uh, our future discussions 980 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,625 and collaboration in carrying this investigation forward. 981 00:40:45,792 --> 00:40:47,167 -Thank you. -Thank you. 982 00:40:48,375 --> 00:40:50,542 BRANDON: Onward. 983 00:40:53,792 --> 00:40:55,333 ERIK: With each season, we see an evolution 984 00:40:55,542 --> 00:40:57,458 of our understanding of the ranch phenomenon. 985 00:40:57,583 --> 00:41:00,000 Our thoughts about what we're engaging with 986 00:41:00,208 --> 00:41:02,333 change sometimes radically, 987 00:41:02,500 --> 00:41:05,167 even with the results of just one experiment. 988 00:41:05,375 --> 00:41:06,708 I think it would be an understatement to say 989 00:41:06,917 --> 00:41:09,167 that our findings this year indicate that we have 990 00:41:09,292 --> 00:41:12,083 a lot more ground and sky to cover. 991 00:41:13,667 --> 00:41:16,167 TRAVIS: I've spent most of my life studying science 992 00:41:16,375 --> 00:41:18,667 and theory around the kind of phenomena 993 00:41:18,833 --> 00:41:21,458 that we keep encountering on Skinwalker Ranch. 994 00:41:21,667 --> 00:41:23,125 Heck, I've even written a bunch of 995 00:41:23,250 --> 00:41:26,000 science fiction novels about this crazy stuff. 996 00:41:26,167 --> 00:41:30,042 So being a part of this team is absolutely a dream come true, 997 00:41:30,208 --> 00:41:32,750 and I can't wait to see what the next chapter 998 00:41:32,917 --> 00:41:35,375 of our investigation is going to reveal. 999 00:41:36,417 --> 00:41:38,667 BRANDON: Skinwalker Ranch is different than any other investigation 1000 00:41:38,875 --> 00:41:41,792 in history, simply because we've 1001 00:41:41,917 --> 00:41:44,500 brought together a diverse group of experts 1002 00:41:44,667 --> 00:41:46,292 and scientists to aid 1003 00:41:46,458 --> 00:41:47,792 the investigation beyond 1004 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,333 what anyone could have imagined in years past. 1005 00:41:50,458 --> 00:41:53,000 As we conclude this historic year, 1006 00:41:53,167 --> 00:41:56,333 more than ever before, the world's attention 1007 00:41:56,542 --> 00:41:58,458 is focused on Skinwalker Ranch. 1008 00:41:59,750 --> 00:42:03,833 CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY A+E NETWORKS