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Pete, I know that you've
got some data to share with us
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- from the bubble boundary.
- Mm-hmm.
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Now what is this?
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[Erik] It seems like
the trees there
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appear to be pushed up
in the sky
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above the homestead area.
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- [Travis] Wow!
- [Royston] Travis,
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it looks like
it's coming our way.
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[Travis over walkie] Yeah,
it came backwards on us.
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[Royston] That's crazy.
Did that just reverse when
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we hit the bubble wall?
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Out of nowhere, we've got
something moving around...
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[Travis] Oh, yeah. Look at that,
look at that. I can see it now.
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That's got to be
hundreds of feet in the air.
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[Erik] Yeah.
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[Travis] What in the world
is that?
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[Narrator] There is a ranch
in Northern Utah.
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It is considered the epicenter
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of the strangest and most
disturbing occurrences on Earth.
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For two decades,
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the federal government
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investigated the property.
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Their findings
have never been made public.
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[Travis] Right there!
We got something!
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[Narrator] Now a new team
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of independent scientists
and researchers are taking over.
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They are uncovering evidence
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that the countless stories...
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It came right out of the mesa.
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...of unidentified
aerial phenomena...
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UAP right there!
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...bizarre energies...
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It looks like there's
a heat source right above 'em.
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...and portals that lead
to other dimensions...
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We're maybe looking
at the anomaly
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for the first time, guys.
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...might actually be true.
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They will stop at nothing
to reveal...
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...The Secret
of Skinwalker Ranch.
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[Kaleb] Welcome to
Skinwalker Ranch, Governor.
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Thanks so much
for helping us out.
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- Yeah. -[Kaleb] Just go
around right here.
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With all the evidence of
strange and unnatural things
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that we've found
on Skinwalker Ranch...
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- [Cox] Gentlemen.
- Hey!
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How we doing?
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[Travis] ...Brandon Fugal
invited the governor of Utah,
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Spencer Cox,
to come out to the property
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and get a special briefing.
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Well, welcome.
This is the command center.
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We'll be showing you a few
things. Come on over, Governor.
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[Brandon] By visiting
the ranch, Governor Cox has
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recognized the importance
of our investigation.
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Skinwalker Ranch has
not only been
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the center for high strangeness
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but has been at the heart
of congressional hearings
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and key briefings
in Washington D.C.
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dealing with the topic of
unidentified aerial phenomena.
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It has also been
the subject of science efforts
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by Robert Bigelow,
with the federal government,
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spanning decades.
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I'm sure you're hearing
from people all the time,
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as governor of
the state of Utah.
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Everyone, globally,
is asking what is going on
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- at Skinwalker Ranch.
- I hear it all the time.
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And, as the sitting governor
of the state of Utah,
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what concerns you most, and do
you have any questions for us?
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Well, obviously,
we're concerned
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about things that happen
in our state, right?
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And-and the historic
pieces of that state.
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This is an incredible place.
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You know,
what's fascinating to me is
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it seems like
everyone has a story
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about something
they've experienced out here.
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I mean, young kids would
come out here and-and play,
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and-and they all come back
with some sort of story,
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including big dog,
wolflike creatures, and...
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We have a history in our state,
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before you owned the ranch, um,
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of-of secret
government experiments
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that may have happened.
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So, yeah, I think any governor
would be concerned.
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We want to know what-what's
happening in our state.
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[Brandon] Well,
what we want to show you
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is some of our latest findings
on the ranch
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that continue to be
the focus of our investigation.
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'Kay. Looking forward to it.
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[Brandon] The mesa.
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We've extracted material
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that is of manufactured origin,
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that is not naturally occurring.
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Here's a photo of
these ceramics, Governor.
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We've had that material analyzed
at Utah Valley University.
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We utilized the scanning
electron microscope
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in order
to analyze the material,
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with surprising results.
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It just deepens the mystery.
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[Travis] Governor,
let Erik and I
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kind of put it
in perspective for you.
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It looks like
the modern-day ceramic
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that's used
in the aerospace industry.
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So how did it get
inside there, in the mesa?
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- Wow. -[Erik] Let me pull up
some of the footage
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from the lab tests.
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[Travis] So, if you look
at this image right here,
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right as we turn
the electron beam on,
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- it's like it's opening up.
- [Cox] Wow.
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At first, we thought
we were damaging it.
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But then,
when we turned the beam off,
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- it put itself back together.
- That's wild.
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- Unbelievable, right?
- Yeah.
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[Travis] But probably
one of the strangest areas
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here on the ranch is a spot
we call the triangle.
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- Okay. -[Travis] That
particular region, uh,
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shows data corruption,
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distortions, anomalies,
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and even failures
of multiple instruments.
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- Wow.
- [Travis] So from, say,
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a state security standpoint,
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if there's something that
can manipulate electronics
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in a given area,
that's very interesting from
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a "how do we secure
our information
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- and data" perspective.
- Yeah. Yeah.
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[Brandon] So, in addition to
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sophisticated technology
behaving strangely,
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we've also had other events
in Homestead Two.
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[Travis] One of the spots
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that we wanted
to tell Governor Cox about
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was the old, 20th-century ruin
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that's better known
as Homestead Two.
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Since we started
our investigation
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at Skinwalker Ranch,
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this place has been a hot spot
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of unexplainable phenomena.
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We've seen what
many people think may be
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evidence of portals
out in that region
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- of the property and around
those structures. -Wow.
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Well, I was at a-a conference
and just happened to be on
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the same panel with
this particular rabbi.
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And I told him
that we've got this place
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that the locals say
that portals open up and so on.
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And he said,
"Well, you know, there's a,
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there's a Hebrew ceremony
to open portals to the heavens."
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Hmm.
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[chanting in Hebrew]
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[Travis] In 2020,
we had Rabbi Ariel Tzadok
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perform an ancient
Hebrew ceremony
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that he believed could
actually open a portal
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at Homestead Two.
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He was following up on work
by Robert Bigelow's team,
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who claimed
they saw a portal open up
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in front of the buildings there.
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And then some kind of creature--
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or skinwalker--
crawled out of it.
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[Travis] Oh, wow.
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- It's freezing right here.
- [Erik] It is.
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You are right in
the center of that region.
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[Travis] During
the rabbi's ceremony,
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a strange cold spot suddenly
appeared on our thermal camera,
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right in front of the homestead
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where Bigelow's team
claimed to see that portal.
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That's crazy.
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It's like an eye.
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How do you localize temperature
in such a small spot?
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Just by a religious ceremony?
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And since we've also been
looking for Ute and Navajo, uh,
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and-and other tribal members
that would be
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willing to come and
do other ceremonies as well.
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We've been
repeating experiments,
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following
the scientific method
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every step of the way
with our investigation.
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[Travis] And we've actually got
a Navajo shaman
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coming out tomorrow night
to do just that.
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Governor, you're literally
in a living laboratory,
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a test bed that is unlike any
other environment on the planet.
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Let's take a look at it.
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Uh, and I think we will depart
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- to go out to Homestead Two.
- [Cox] Okay.
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- [Brandon] Does that sound
good? -Yeah.
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[Brandon] So, Governor,
welcome to Homestead Two.
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[Erik] This is the area
that we saw that cold zone.
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- Right here. -[Travis] Right
through this opening
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is where the cold mass was.
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[Thomas] Not to mention what's
happened to people out here.
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[Travis] Besides the cold spot,
we've had folks experience
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some strange physical reactions
around Homestead Two,
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including myself.
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[Travis] What the crap is that?
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[Travis] When I first joined
the team in 2019,
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I opened up a well
at Homestead Two
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and immediately felt sick.
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I've got a little bit of
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a headache
or something happening.
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Turns out, I had been hit by
a dangerous spike of radiation.
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And burns showed up on my face
and hands a few days later.
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And the following year,
a visitor named Roland McCook
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came out to tell us
about an experience
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he had as a teenager,
when he believes he came
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face-to-face with a skinwalker.
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[Roland] It came out, red eyes.
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Probably like eight feet tall.
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And then it just,
it pointed at me...
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...and all you hear is
the biggest roar, just...
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[imitates roar]
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Loudest roar I ever heard.
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Hold on.
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[Travis] And while
he was telling his story,
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he was immediately overcome
by some kind of illness.
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- Bit dizzy there.
- Are you blacking out?
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- Yeah.
- Hang on and just breathe.
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[Travis] But the most
serious case was in 2016,
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when Thomas ended up
in the hospital
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with a mysterious brain injury
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while he was doing nothing more
than just digging on the ranch.
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There seems to be something
truly unexplained going on.
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In places like this,
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in the Basin,
we have some weird stuff.
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Well, it's, uh, something that
defies any real explanation.
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I was honored to facilitate
this visit with Governor Cox
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and to see him
actually walk the property,
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visit the homesteads,
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and to be able
to engage with the team.
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We look forward
to keeping him updated
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as our investigation continues
to unfold and expand.
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Well, I know you've got
important business to attend to.
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Thank you, Governor,
for coming out.
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- Thank you, Brandon.
- You're welcome here anytime,
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and we appreciate all your
service for the state of Utah.
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- Thanks for the great work
you guys do. -Thank you.
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- It was so nice to meet
all of you. -Pleasure.
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- Nice to meet you.
- Thank you.
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[Travis] Hey, fellas.
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Jan, Pete, how are y'all doing?
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- Good.
- Good. -Good.
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[Travis] After our meeting
with Governor Cox,
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we headed back out to the mesa
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with ground-penetrating radar
expert Jan Francke
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to continue our work with
the guys from Triple A Drilling.
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[Erik] Lots of plans
for the day.
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So, I understand that
you got down 11 feet.
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- Yes.
- Okay, perfect.
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[Travis] A few days ago,
we started drilling our first
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four-foot-diameter
vertical borehole.
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It's targeting the spot,
33 feet below,
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where we hit that hard object
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with the horizontal drill hole
last year
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and found
those ceramic materials.
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So, Jan, do I understand
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that today we have you back
to do more scans
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with your GPR equipment?
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- But of course, of course.
- Sounds good to me.
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[Travis] So while the drilling
was happening,
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Jan was back
to run another GPR scan
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along the face of the mesa.
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Last week, he took scans
with a smaller GPR device
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that we inserted
into Borehole 1,
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so we could get
some brand-new scans
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inside the mesa.
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Today, he's brought a different
and more powerful unit
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that we can run across
the mesa's surface.
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We've got this
weird sort of oblong target
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that's inside the mesa.
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We've seen it from the top.
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I want to see it from
as many angles as possible.
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So, uh, I think we all have
a plan of action.
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- Yes, sir. -Yes.
- [Erik] Well, let's get to it.
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- All right. Let's go.
- All right.
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All right. You can drill.
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[Travis] As the drillers
got back to work...
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- All right, dude.
Let's get going. -Okay.
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...Jan gave
Kaleb and me the device
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so we could perform the scan.
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Hey, Erik. Do you copy?
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Yeah, Travis, what do you got?
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Kaleb and I are starting
our first run with the GPR,
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and Jan said
he's at about 45 megahertz.
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I was wondering
if y'all were seeing that
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- on the spectrum analyzers.
- Yeah, copy that.
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You better believe we are.
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Copy that. Out.
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Jan's GPR emits a very specific
frequency of 45 megahertz.
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So while
we were running the GPR,
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Erik and Sam were gonna
keep a close eye
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on our spectrum analyzers
to look for
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that signal and any strange ones
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like we've seen in the past
when we're drilling.
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- Let me get to where you are.
- [Kaleb] Yep.
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- It's all you. I'm letting go.
- [Kaleb] All right.
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All right,
zigzag the parking lot
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and, uh, turn this thing off.
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- Then we're done.
- All right.
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[Travis] As rough and uneven
as the mesa is,
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hopefully Kaleb and I were able
to get good data that will
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give us better images
of whatever's in there.
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Whoa, what's that signal?
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We're picking up
that 45 megahertz
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bigger than crap.
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Look at that.
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You can see
the big bump in the middle?
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That's the frequency
the GPR was running at.
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You shut off your GPR, right?
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- Oh, yeah, I shut it off. I--
- You turned--
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- You disconnected it.
- Yeah, it's off.
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[Travis] That's a huge
freaking signal.
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And it's coming from the mesa.
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- [Kaleb] That's weird.
- [exhales]
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Yeah, that's what I say.
It's weird.
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[Travis] This is one of
the weirdest things
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that keeps happening
across the ranch.
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Our instruments will broadcast
a signal during an experiment.
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But then, after we shut it off,
we'll see the same signal
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being broadcast back at us
from some unknown source.
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It's like something on
the ranch clones our signals.
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What the heck could
be doing that?
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And why?
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Hey, Erik, it's Travis.
Do you copy?
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Hey, Travis.
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- What's up?
- [Travis] We're done
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with the, uh, GPR,
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and the really weird thing,
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when we turned it off,
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there's a strong signal
coming from the mesa
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at about 45 megahertz.
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Wow, that's bizarre.
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[Erik] That is really strange.
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[Travis] So there's a signal,
right now,
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that's-that's mimicking
the, uh, GPR signal.
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- That's weird. -[Erik] What
do you make of that?
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[Jan] You know,
we're pumping energy
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into the ground,
for whatever reason,
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and we get some response back.
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But-- What?
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[Travis] Did this signal
come from
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whatever's inside the mesa?
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Hopefully, between
the processed GPR data
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and the drilling operation,
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we'll figure that out soon.
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Hey, guys. So talk to us
about the drilling, Thomas.
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Well, they've made progress.
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We're at 16 feet.
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- [Erik] Sixteen.
- Yep.
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Well, we got a couple
of really good runs.
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- Yup. -Yeah, I know you're going
to go crunch the numbers.
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Yeah, I-I say
we get back in touch
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- and get the final word on it.
- Absolutely. Yep.
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[Thomas] Always good
to have you here.
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[Jan] Well,
thanks for having me out.
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[Travis] While we were waiting
for Jan to process his data,
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the next day we had
some special guests come out
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to help us with our new
experiment at Homestead Two.
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[Jim] Maddy,
let me introduce you to
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our good friends here.
This is Erik...
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- Erik Bard.
- Hello. Maddy. Nice to meet you.
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[Travis] We were joined
by Maddy Farrer,
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a neuroscientist from
Utah Valley University,
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and our friend,
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retired Navajo Ranger Jon Dover,
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who brought along
Navajo shaman Art Hardy.
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Welcome to the ranch, you guys.
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Just, uh, great to have you
out here to investigate
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the phenomena that we have
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been observing here
for years now.
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Thank you for having me.
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Art agreed to perform
a sacred prayer ritual,
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like we did with the rabbi
experiment a couple years back.
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We wanted to see if
these kinds of rituals
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can consistently trigger
similar results.
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That way,
maybe we can get some answers
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about what causes
the phenomena at Homestead Two.
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I think tonight's experiment's
gonna be really exciting,
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where we have someone who's
connected tribally, you know,
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to-to the area.
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Art, tell us a little bit about
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what you plan to do
for us tonight.
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I would like to start off
with doing a ceremony
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to see if we can instigate
maybe a connection
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or a contact of some sort.
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And then work my way into the...
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into the housing area.
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Just kind of instigating
to see if there was any kind of,
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I don't know, feedback.
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Uh, it sounds very diagnostic.
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You hit the nail on the head.
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Uh, so we do consider them
diagnostic, in a sense,
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because we're-we're
basically, uh, investigators.
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I see. Mm.
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So you'll do your ceremony
outside the homestead,
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and then we'll go
into the individual buildings.
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And let you guys reach out
to see what's going on.
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- Right.
- And, uh, at the same time
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I think the idea is you're gonna
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have a sensor on Art, uh,
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and-and monitor his brain waves.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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[Travis] After
the prayer ritual,
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Art will physically go into
the structures at Homestead Two.
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He'll be wearing an EEG,
or electroencephalogram device.
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Given the past health issues
that I
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and others have had here,
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we want to be able to measure
any strange effects
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that being in the homestead
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might have
on his brain and body.
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[Maddy] So, Art,
kind of what we're gonna do
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is we're going to put
an EEG headset on you.
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Our brain,
the way it communicates
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is it's all electrical. Right?
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Uh, yes.
Our body is-is a conductor.
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Obviously,
we're made of water, 70%.
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Um, water is highly,
uh, conductive.
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[Maddy] Yeah, absolutely.
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So, as we connect that
to your brain
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through the scalp,
on the skull,
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every electrical signal
that your brain is sending,
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we are gonna be able
to pick up on.
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If you're feeling nervous,
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if you're feeling a little
bit more anxious or relaxed,
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we're going to be able
to pick up on that in vivo,
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so in real time.
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[Erik] So, I say we get started.
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I'll take you guys out
and we can start prepping.
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- Sounds great.
- All right. Let's get to it.
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[Travis] All right, well,
I say we get to work.
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[Pete] Here we go.
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[Travis] We were really excited
that Art agreed to perform
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a Navajo ceremony
to see if we could
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make something strange
appear at Homestead Two.
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Most Navajo people refuse
to set foot on the ranch,
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because they believe
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it's inhabited by
evil and dangerous entities.
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That's where
Skinwalker Ranch got its name.
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So, for him to put
himself out there like this
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for our investigation
was really appreciated.
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[Thomas] Well, this is a step up
from what it was
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- when we did the rabbi.
- [Travis] Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, Travis, you're
coming through loud and clear.
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[Travis] While Erik set up
in the command center
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to monitor the experiment
with his surveillance system,
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we prepped high-speed
and thermal cameras--
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as well as lidar devices--
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all aimed at the homestead
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to record data
during the experiment.
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This will hopefully ensure
that we capture
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any evidence of strange activity
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that can't be seen
by the naked eye.
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[Maddy] Before we get started,
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what I'd like to do, Art,
is I want to get you set up
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with the EEG
and we get a baseline.
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Okay. Well,
that sounds good to me.
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All right. Well, I say we've
got a lot of work to do
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to get started
and the sun's sinking quick,
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so let's get to work.
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[Maddy] We'll go ahead
and we'll get this cap on you.
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Well, first,
we're doing a baseline reading,
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so we can see what those
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wavelengths look like
and what every channel
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and every part of his brain
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was looking like before
going into this experiment
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so we can have some
really good frames of reference
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to compare to the EEG scans
in Homestead Two.
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If you could take
a couple deep breaths for me...
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Beautiful. Okay.
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His baseline readings
look very typical.
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They're not moving,
there's no muscle tension there,
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so we have normal EEG scans
with normal wavelengths,
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normal amplitudes,
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normal brain activity.
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That will conclude our baseline,
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so we got
a good baseline on you.
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Looks like
a normal brain to me.
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[Kaleb] Hey, Travis,
do you copy?
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Yeah, Kaleb. What's going on?
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We just finished up
with the baseline
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on the EEG down here, uh,
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so we're going to wait for it
to get dark before we start.
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[Travis] I think that's a good
idea. Let's-let's do that.
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10-4.
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[Travis] So, why don't
you guys go ahead and move
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into your next phase
of this experiment?
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Well, I would like
to start and see if we can
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instigate maybe a connection
or contact of some sort.
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00:20:04,161 --> 00:20:05,788
All right. Great, let's do it.
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Because this was
a sacred Navajo ceremony,
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there were some parts of it
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that Art asked us not to record.
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So, we had to respect that.
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All that really mattered was
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what might happen
as he performed it.
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- We're good to begin
when you're ready. -Okay.
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We're gonna turn
our radios down.
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00:20:23,764 --> 00:20:25,766
I'm gonna give you your space
and back off some distance.
491
00:20:25,933 --> 00:20:27,435
Sure. Thank you.
492
00:20:29,770 --> 00:20:31,772
♪ ♪
493
00:20:44,785 --> 00:20:47,079
[insects trilling]
494
00:20:47,204 --> 00:20:49,665
Sam, are you
getting something at 1.6?
495
00:20:50,708 --> 00:20:54,170
I'm seeing, like, a pulse,
coming from that direction.
496
00:20:55,171 --> 00:20:56,922
Yeah, that's what I'm getting.
497
00:20:57,089 --> 00:20:58,299
'Cause I'm using my directional
antenna, scanning around,
498
00:20:58,507 --> 00:20:59,842
and that's
where I'm seeing it from.
499
00:21:01,719 --> 00:21:03,053
[Travis] And
it's coming directly
500
00:21:03,220 --> 00:21:04,722
- from Homestead Two.
- [Sam] Yeah.
501
00:21:06,724 --> 00:21:08,225
You know what,
I'm taking my handheld,
502
00:21:08,392 --> 00:21:09,643
I'm going down there.
503
00:21:09,769 --> 00:21:11,312
- You got a walkie?
- Yeah.
504
00:21:12,271 --> 00:21:13,689
[Travis] All right.
505
00:21:13,856 --> 00:21:15,399
I'm headed that way. Let's go.
506
00:21:16,525 --> 00:21:18,986
Right as Art Hardy
started his prayer
507
00:21:19,153 --> 00:21:20,780
outside Homestead Two,
508
00:21:20,988 --> 00:21:23,491
this strange,
1.6-gigahertz signal
509
00:21:23,657 --> 00:21:25,201
showed up
on our spectrum analyzers.
510
00:21:25,326 --> 00:21:28,204
It's getting stronger
as we get closer.
511
00:21:28,370 --> 00:21:29,705
And it seemed to be coming
512
00:21:29,872 --> 00:21:31,499
from inside the house.
513
00:21:36,253 --> 00:21:37,838
[Travis] Oh, wait, wait, wait.
514
00:21:38,005 --> 00:21:39,840
Uh, it's right here.
We got a peak right here.
515
00:21:40,925 --> 00:21:43,177
Sure enough,
once we got in the building,
516
00:21:43,385 --> 00:21:44,970
I was able
to isolate the signal.
517
00:21:45,137 --> 00:21:46,889
But what was the source?
518
00:21:47,890 --> 00:21:50,601
And was it provoked
by Art's ceremony?
519
00:21:50,726 --> 00:21:51,936
[Travis over walkie] Hey, Erik.
520
00:21:52,144 --> 00:21:53,562
We're having a huge hit
521
00:21:53,729 --> 00:21:57,566
out here, uh, at Homestead Two,
around 1.6.
522
00:21:57,733 --> 00:21:59,401
It's gigantic.
523
00:21:59,527 --> 00:22:01,862
Well, um, yeah. What can I say?
524
00:22:02,029 --> 00:22:03,364
That's unusual.
525
00:22:03,531 --> 00:22:05,658
- Keep an eye on it.
- Yeah, man.
526
00:22:05,866 --> 00:22:07,409
Thomas, we're gonna head back.
527
00:22:07,576 --> 00:22:09,119
[Thomas] Okay.
528
00:22:09,286 --> 00:22:11,247
[Travis] I don't know
why we see so many
529
00:22:11,413 --> 00:22:14,458
1.6-gigahertz signals
on Skinwalker Ranch,
530
00:22:14,667 --> 00:22:17,419
but we've thought it could be
a form of communication
531
00:22:17,628 --> 00:22:20,256
from something or someone.
532
00:22:20,422 --> 00:22:22,967
Since it popped up
when Art was saying his prayer,
533
00:22:23,133 --> 00:22:24,885
that's a pretty
compelling correlation.
534
00:22:25,052 --> 00:22:28,597
It made us wonder if he was
actually making contact
535
00:22:28,764 --> 00:22:30,891
with something strange
at Homestead Two.
536
00:22:31,058 --> 00:22:32,977
So, we headed back
to the science table
537
00:22:33,185 --> 00:22:35,020
while Art's ceremony continued,
538
00:22:35,229 --> 00:22:37,648
to see if anything
more interesting would happen.
539
00:22:40,860 --> 00:22:42,820
Oh, wow.
540
00:22:44,572 --> 00:22:46,448
That is crazy.
541
00:22:47,449 --> 00:22:49,034
Take a look at this.
542
00:22:50,035 --> 00:22:51,829
This is just crazy.
543
00:22:51,996 --> 00:22:54,290
This tree was heating up.
Right here.
544
00:22:56,292 --> 00:22:59,461
That bright yellow color
means it's getting really hot.
545
00:22:59,670 --> 00:23:01,380
This is incredible.
546
00:23:01,589 --> 00:23:04,049
I mean...
this is really bright.
547
00:23:05,050 --> 00:23:06,844
[Pete] And it keeps
getting hotter.
548
00:23:08,053 --> 00:23:09,680
[Dave] Travis, we're getting
some really big
549
00:23:09,805 --> 00:23:11,515
changes of temperature.
550
00:23:11,682 --> 00:23:13,726
Just-- These things are
just starting to heat up
551
00:23:13,893 --> 00:23:15,269
like a Christmas tree.
552
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,022
[Travis] Well,
that's really interesting.
553
00:23:18,230 --> 00:23:19,648
It's like the temperature's...
554
00:23:19,815 --> 00:23:21,984
- all kind of messed up
- Yeah.
555
00:23:23,027 --> 00:23:24,945
[Travis] Last time
we did this, with the rabbi,
556
00:23:25,112 --> 00:23:27,239
we had a huge cold spot
557
00:23:27,364 --> 00:23:29,199
appear right in front
of the buildings.
558
00:23:29,325 --> 00:23:32,620
But this time, we're seeing
hot spots high in the trees
559
00:23:32,828 --> 00:23:34,163
at Homestead Two.
560
00:23:34,288 --> 00:23:35,706
Major heat.
561
00:23:35,873 --> 00:23:37,291
And you can't hardly
even see the house.
562
00:23:37,458 --> 00:23:39,376
- The tree is hotter
than the house. -Yeah.
563
00:23:39,543 --> 00:23:41,503
[Dave] Right here.
564
00:23:42,588 --> 00:23:44,173
[Travis] It's fascinating
that we're getting
565
00:23:44,340 --> 00:23:46,884
a temperature reaction
during this prayer ritual,
566
00:23:47,051 --> 00:23:49,929
but it's the total opposite
of what we saw before.
567
00:23:50,095 --> 00:23:52,306
What could be causing that?
568
00:23:53,307 --> 00:23:55,267
It doesn't make any sense.
569
00:23:55,434 --> 00:23:57,269
[Dave] No-None of this
makes any sense.
570
00:23:57,436 --> 00:23:58,854
I've never seen it like this.
571
00:23:59,021 --> 00:24:01,482
I've seen temperature changes,
but not this much.
572
00:24:05,402 --> 00:24:07,988
[blows whistle]
573
00:24:10,532 --> 00:24:12,576
[blows four times]
574
00:24:14,620 --> 00:24:16,622
[Travis] I think that was
the end of the ceremony.
575
00:24:17,331 --> 00:24:18,707
Keep-- keep watching that.
576
00:24:18,874 --> 00:24:20,084
If something happens,
let me know.
577
00:24:20,250 --> 00:24:22,294
I'm gonna go talk to him.
578
00:24:24,672 --> 00:24:26,048
[Travis] Art, uh,
if you don't mind,
579
00:24:26,215 --> 00:24:27,841
would you kind of tell me
a little bit about
580
00:24:27,967 --> 00:24:30,052
what that ceremony was about?
581
00:24:30,219 --> 00:24:33,639
Sure. With what's been happening
here on Skinwalker Ranch,
582
00:24:33,764 --> 00:24:36,850
there's a lot of, um,
weird energy.
583
00:24:37,935 --> 00:24:41,397
So, the way that I incorporated
my prayer with that was to
584
00:24:41,563 --> 00:24:44,608
call upon that source of power
585
00:24:44,775 --> 00:24:47,152
and hopefully we may
586
00:24:47,319 --> 00:24:49,363
document it,
maybe capture it...
587
00:24:49,488 --> 00:24:51,448
um... in...
588
00:24:51,615 --> 00:24:53,909
- you know, for scientific
purposes. -That's amazing.
589
00:24:54,952 --> 00:24:58,455
So, earlier, you said
you wanted to go into a couple
590
00:24:58,622 --> 00:25:00,082
of the buildings
at Homestead Two
591
00:25:00,249 --> 00:25:02,126
as part of your ceremony.
592
00:25:02,292 --> 00:25:04,128
That's not
going to be a ceremony.
593
00:25:04,294 --> 00:25:05,921
Um, what I'm doing down there
594
00:25:06,046 --> 00:25:07,381
is kind of instigating.
595
00:25:07,589 --> 00:25:09,675
Oh. So you're just probing,
596
00:25:09,842 --> 00:25:12,177
- hoping something
will come back. -Yeah.
597
00:25:12,386 --> 00:25:13,887
[Travis] Poking
the hornet's nest.
598
00:25:14,054 --> 00:25:15,806
- That's hardcore, man.
- Right.
599
00:25:15,973 --> 00:25:18,308
[Travis] Well, we're ready
whenever you are.
600
00:25:18,475 --> 00:25:20,269
Kaleb, you want
to take him down there,
601
00:25:20,436 --> 00:25:22,021
and Maddy, you gonna
hook him up to the EEG?
602
00:25:22,229 --> 00:25:24,982
- [Maddy] Yes.
- Okay. Let's go.
603
00:25:30,571 --> 00:25:31,905
[Maddy] If you're ready,
604
00:25:32,072 --> 00:25:33,407
we can go ahead
and get the cap on you.
605
00:25:34,533 --> 00:25:36,660
[Travis] Before Art went into
the homestead buildings,
606
00:25:36,869 --> 00:25:39,621
we wanted to get another reading
with the EEG
607
00:25:39,830 --> 00:25:41,415
to compare his brain activity
608
00:25:41,582 --> 00:25:44,793
to the baseline scan
Maddy had taken earlier.
609
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,046
You'll have to take
your glasses off.
610
00:25:52,926 --> 00:25:54,595
Okay.
611
00:25:54,762 --> 00:25:56,305
[Kaleb] A lot more activity
there now than there was
612
00:25:56,472 --> 00:25:58,640
- during the baseline.
- [Maddy] Yeah.
613
00:25:58,766 --> 00:26:00,309
There definitely is.
614
00:26:00,476 --> 00:26:03,103
- [Kaleb] That's interesting.
- [Maddy] Interesting.
615
00:26:04,438 --> 00:26:06,440
Baseline readings
were very typical...
616
00:26:07,649 --> 00:26:09,151
...but now...
617
00:26:10,611 --> 00:26:14,114
...we had Art's brain emitting
those high-frequency waves
618
00:26:14,281 --> 00:26:15,532
indicative of high stress.
619
00:26:15,699 --> 00:26:18,994
But we can see Art was relaxed,
620
00:26:19,161 --> 00:26:21,121
so it made no sense.
621
00:26:21,955 --> 00:26:23,457
Well, let's see
what kind of data we get
622
00:26:23,665 --> 00:26:26,335
when you go
into one of the buildings.
623
00:26:26,502 --> 00:26:27,961
Okay.
624
00:26:28,087 --> 00:26:30,506
Um... I want to go
into that house.
625
00:26:38,013 --> 00:26:39,681
- [beeps]
- What?
626
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,729
It... it just stopped working.
627
00:26:45,896 --> 00:26:47,815
[Maddy chuckles]
628
00:26:47,981 --> 00:26:49,399
- [beeps]
- [Kaleb] What's that?
629
00:26:49,525 --> 00:26:52,486
The-the headset
just stopped working.
630
00:26:54,029 --> 00:26:55,906
[Kaleb] The moment
he walked in there.
631
00:26:56,532 --> 00:26:59,118
[Maddy] It's just... it's gone.
632
00:26:59,284 --> 00:27:00,536
- Hey, Art?
- [Maddy] It's done.
633
00:27:00,702 --> 00:27:02,371
- Yeah?
- Would you mind walking
634
00:27:02,538 --> 00:27:05,874
outside of the front of
the house real quick?
635
00:27:09,837 --> 00:27:11,088
Come back over here real quick.
636
00:27:11,255 --> 00:27:13,006
[Art] Yeah. Did you lose it?
637
00:27:13,173 --> 00:27:14,716
- Yeah, the moment you walked
in there... -[Maddy] It's down.
638
00:27:14,883 --> 00:27:15,926
- ...it's like it doesn't
even exist. -[Maddy] Uh-uh.
639
00:27:17,970 --> 00:27:19,555
[beeps]
640
00:27:19,721 --> 00:27:21,557
[Maddy] Okay,
now it's picking it up again.
641
00:27:22,850 --> 00:27:24,768
Okay, we're-we're back.
642
00:27:24,935 --> 00:27:26,353
- [Maddy chuckles]
- Nice.
643
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,146
But, I mean,
this range is 30 feet,
644
00:27:28,313 --> 00:27:29,773
so there should be no reason
645
00:27:29,940 --> 00:27:33,277
why it's not picking up
on any data.
646
00:27:33,443 --> 00:27:35,737
[Kaleb] But you were only
15 feet away.
647
00:27:35,946 --> 00:27:37,656
There's one way to test,
is go back in
648
00:27:37,823 --> 00:27:39,449
and stick my head
out the window.
649
00:27:39,616 --> 00:27:41,493
- Right.
- [Maddy] We could do that.
650
00:27:41,660 --> 00:27:43,495
- Yeah.
- You know? Let's-let's try that.
651
00:27:43,662 --> 00:27:45,080
Okay.
652
00:27:52,129 --> 00:27:53,630
[Art] You got me?
653
00:27:53,797 --> 00:27:55,007
- [Maddy] Nope.
- [Art] Nope?
654
00:27:55,173 --> 00:27:56,633
[Maddy] It's done, it's dead.
655
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,552
I'm going to stick my head
out the window here.
656
00:28:01,513 --> 00:28:03,390
[Maddy] Okay,
we're getting something.
657
00:28:04,349 --> 00:28:06,351
- [Art] You got me now?
- [Kaleb] Yeah.
658
00:28:07,269 --> 00:28:08,562
Okay.
659
00:28:08,729 --> 00:28:10,272
Back in the house.
660
00:28:12,232 --> 00:28:13,692
[Maddy] What?
661
00:28:13,859 --> 00:28:15,360
- [Art] Disappeared?
- Yeah. -[Maddy] It's done.
662
00:28:18,655 --> 00:28:20,198
- [beeps] -[Maddy] Now,
all of a sudden,
663
00:28:20,324 --> 00:28:21,575
- the headset's gonna...
- [Kaleb] Yeah.
664
00:28:21,742 --> 00:28:23,535
The headset's also saying
it's gonna die,
665
00:28:23,702 --> 00:28:25,162
but then the charge comes back
and then
666
00:28:25,329 --> 00:28:26,622
it says it's going to die again.
667
00:28:26,830 --> 00:28:28,457
I charged it
for four hours today.
668
00:28:28,665 --> 00:28:30,083
The battery is good.
669
00:28:30,876 --> 00:28:32,836
Did you see how
it just went down to that?
670
00:28:33,003 --> 00:28:34,212
But it-it was charged.
671
00:28:34,379 --> 00:28:35,797
- [Kaleb] Yeah.
- But now it's gonna die.
672
00:28:35,964 --> 00:28:37,549
That doesn't make any sense.
673
00:28:37,716 --> 00:28:39,426
[Maddy] See? It's gone.
674
00:28:40,761 --> 00:28:42,554
What?
675
00:28:43,639 --> 00:28:45,057
This is just...
676
00:28:45,265 --> 00:28:46,934
unexplainable.
677
00:28:47,100 --> 00:28:49,186
"No headset discovered."
678
00:28:51,396 --> 00:28:53,398
[Travis] Now this was
really strange.
679
00:28:53,523 --> 00:28:56,610
The second Art Hardy stepped
inside the main building
680
00:28:56,777 --> 00:28:59,613
of Homestead Two,
we lost total communication
681
00:28:59,780 --> 00:29:02,282
with the EEG device
monitoring his brain.
682
00:29:02,449 --> 00:29:05,202
Even the battery,
which was fully charged,
683
00:29:05,369 --> 00:29:06,787
suddenly went dead.
684
00:29:06,954 --> 00:29:09,164
Did something in
the homestead cause this?
685
00:29:09,331 --> 00:29:11,291
And if so,
was it connected
686
00:29:11,458 --> 00:29:13,251
to the 1.6-gigahertz signal
687
00:29:13,418 --> 00:29:16,004
we got earlier
or even the heat anomalies
688
00:29:16,171 --> 00:29:18,131
above the buildings?
689
00:29:19,591 --> 00:29:21,551
Is there any other steps
that we can do
690
00:29:21,718 --> 00:29:24,221
to maybe try and
get this going again? Or...
691
00:29:24,429 --> 00:29:26,515
We could potentially
pull out another headset...
692
00:29:26,682 --> 00:29:28,308
- Okay.
- ...and see if a new one
693
00:29:28,475 --> 00:29:29,726
is going to give us some data.
694
00:29:29,893 --> 00:29:31,269
We have backups.
695
00:29:31,436 --> 00:29:32,646
- Okay.
- Let's see.
696
00:29:32,813 --> 00:29:34,481
- Do you want to take it off?
- Sure.
697
00:29:34,648 --> 00:29:36,775
I've never experienced anything
like that before in my life.
698
00:29:36,942 --> 00:29:38,610
Okay, so that's in range.
699
00:29:38,777 --> 00:29:40,904
We had to go
get another EEG cap,
700
00:29:41,071 --> 00:29:42,572
trying to get
some readings again.
701
00:29:42,739 --> 00:29:44,908
- This one's working.
- All right.
702
00:29:45,075 --> 00:29:46,493
- [Maddy] You ready to do this
thing again? 'Kay. -Yeah.
703
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,287
[Travis] Just to make sure
that the malfunction with
704
00:29:49,454 --> 00:29:51,206
the EEG wasn't happening
705
00:29:51,373 --> 00:29:53,750
because it was too far away
from Maddy's laptop,
706
00:29:53,917 --> 00:29:56,044
she and Kaleb joined Art
707
00:29:56,211 --> 00:29:58,255
when he went into the buildings.
708
00:30:01,758 --> 00:30:03,135
[Kaleb] Still good data?
709
00:30:04,428 --> 00:30:05,762
[Maddy] Still pretty good.
710
00:30:05,887 --> 00:30:07,431
[Art] So let's see
if we get a reaction
711
00:30:07,597 --> 00:30:09,099
- or anything.
- Uh-huh. -[Kaleb] Yeah.
712
00:30:18,650 --> 00:30:20,277
What's the data show?
713
00:30:20,444 --> 00:30:23,321
Currently, right now,
we're seeing that you're in
714
00:30:23,447 --> 00:30:25,866
a very focused state.
715
00:30:26,033 --> 00:30:28,368
I'm curious,
do you mind if we walk back
716
00:30:28,535 --> 00:30:30,620
into the main building
of Homestead Two?
717
00:30:30,829 --> 00:30:32,289
- [Art] To check out the data?
- Yeah.
718
00:30:32,456 --> 00:30:35,459
- See if we get that same thing
happen again? -Okay.
719
00:30:37,210 --> 00:30:38,712
[Kaleb] Just watch
your step right here.
720
00:30:38,879 --> 00:30:40,630
- Yeah.
- I'll step right there.
721
00:30:40,797 --> 00:30:42,549
[Maddy sighs]
722
00:30:42,716 --> 00:30:44,384
Still working?
723
00:30:44,551 --> 00:30:45,969
So far.
724
00:30:48,221 --> 00:30:49,890
Hey, Travis, come look at this.
725
00:30:51,266 --> 00:30:52,601
[Travis] Whoa. Look at that.
726
00:30:52,726 --> 00:30:54,352
1.6 is tore up, dude.
727
00:30:54,519 --> 00:30:57,355
1.6 is just nuts
on five different machines.
728
00:30:57,522 --> 00:30:59,733
What do you make of that?
729
00:30:59,900 --> 00:31:01,401
That's a big signal.
730
00:31:02,486 --> 00:31:04,529
The second they went
back into the main building
731
00:31:04,696 --> 00:31:05,989
of Homestead Two,
732
00:31:06,156 --> 00:31:08,533
another 1.6-gigahertz signal
733
00:31:08,700 --> 00:31:11,161
popped up on all of
our spectrum analyzers.
734
00:31:11,286 --> 00:31:13,747
That's too crazy
to be a coincidence.
735
00:31:13,914 --> 00:31:16,708
It really seemed like something
didn't want us in there.
736
00:31:16,875 --> 00:31:18,418
I'm getting the same signal
737
00:31:18,627 --> 00:31:20,629
on five different devices.
738
00:31:20,796 --> 00:31:23,882
So on one, two, three, four,
739
00:31:24,007 --> 00:31:26,009
and Sam's got it over there.
740
00:31:26,176 --> 00:31:29,012
That's a lot of transmission.
741
00:31:29,179 --> 00:31:31,598
But the weird part about it,
Thomas, is it's coming from
742
00:31:31,765 --> 00:31:33,683
Homestead Two.
743
00:31:36,978 --> 00:31:39,439
Uh, whoa. Whoa.
744
00:31:39,564 --> 00:31:40,982
Whoa!
745
00:31:42,859 --> 00:31:45,237
This doesn't...
this doesn't make any sense!
746
00:31:46,363 --> 00:31:48,156
This is very odd.
747
00:31:52,244 --> 00:31:54,246
[Maddy] This doesn't
make any sense.
748
00:31:54,412 --> 00:31:55,956
So, what we should be seeing
749
00:31:56,123 --> 00:31:58,875
is the same focused state
we were seeing over there.
750
00:31:59,042 --> 00:32:01,128
Now that we're in here,
all we are seeing is
751
00:32:01,294 --> 00:32:02,796
just, like,
this high-frequency band.
752
00:32:04,965 --> 00:32:07,926
Which could be attributed
to movement,
753
00:32:08,093 --> 00:32:09,511
but you're not moving.
754
00:32:11,263 --> 00:32:15,725
When Art moved into that second
structure at Homestead Two,
755
00:32:15,892 --> 00:32:18,061
the EEG readings were
really strange.
756
00:32:18,270 --> 00:32:20,522
I've never seen
anything like that before.
757
00:32:21,815 --> 00:32:24,317
You can see high bursts
of brain waves,
758
00:32:24,484 --> 00:32:26,069
which could be
indicative of high stress.
759
00:32:26,236 --> 00:32:29,531
Or if he was clenching
all of his muscles
760
00:32:29,698 --> 00:32:31,032
and bearing down
761
00:32:31,199 --> 00:32:33,285
and creating
intense muscle tension.
762
00:32:34,286 --> 00:32:35,704
I haven't seen that all night.
763
00:32:35,871 --> 00:32:37,164
[Maddy] So this makes
no logical sense.
764
00:32:37,330 --> 00:32:40,625
But our Navajo shaman
is relaxed,
765
00:32:40,792 --> 00:32:42,002
is not moving.
766
00:32:42,169 --> 00:32:43,920
So I think there was
767
00:32:44,087 --> 00:32:46,173
something else anomalous
768
00:32:46,339 --> 00:32:48,925
interacting with the EEG system
769
00:32:49,092 --> 00:32:51,845
and emitting
those high-frequency waves.
770
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,974
Hey, Travis,
it's Kaleb. You copy?
771
00:32:56,141 --> 00:32:57,601
Yeah, Kaleb. Go ahead.
772
00:32:57,726 --> 00:32:59,811
We got some really
interesting data here,
773
00:32:59,978 --> 00:33:02,355
and it's fascinating. So, we'll
head back up to the main table.
774
00:33:02,522 --> 00:33:03,732
[Travis] Copy that.
775
00:33:03,899 --> 00:33:05,233
Hey, Erik, we're done.
776
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:06,943
We'll just see you down by
777
00:33:07,152 --> 00:33:08,361
- Homestead Two?
- [Erik] Copy you, Travis.
778
00:33:08,486 --> 00:33:09,738
I'll head over pretty soon.
779
00:33:09,946 --> 00:33:11,364
Well, I have to admit,
780
00:33:11,531 --> 00:33:13,158
there were quite a few
interesting events noted
781
00:33:13,325 --> 00:33:15,535
during the duration of
the ceremony, or the experiment,
782
00:33:15,744 --> 00:33:18,163
in particular the EEG data.
783
00:33:18,330 --> 00:33:19,706
I'm so looking forward
to reviewing
784
00:33:19,873 --> 00:33:21,416
the data from this evening.
785
00:33:21,583 --> 00:33:23,251
Hey, guys.
786
00:33:23,418 --> 00:33:25,670
So, tell me what you saw,
tell me what happened.
787
00:33:25,837 --> 00:33:29,257
Oh, I don't even know
how to even explain
788
00:33:29,466 --> 00:33:32,135
what we had happen right
over there at Homestead Two.
789
00:33:33,136 --> 00:33:34,512
I-I just want to get
my hands on the data.
790
00:33:34,679 --> 00:33:36,765
- Mm-hmm.
- [Travis] Well, look, um,
791
00:33:36,932 --> 00:33:38,642
Art, Jon, Maddy,
792
00:33:38,767 --> 00:33:40,644
thank you so much.
This has been great.
793
00:33:40,810 --> 00:33:42,979
I think we've got a lot
to learn from this
794
00:33:43,146 --> 00:33:45,523
- and a lot of analysis.
- Yeah.
795
00:33:45,690 --> 00:33:47,442
[Travis] So, uh,
I say we pack it up
796
00:33:47,609 --> 00:33:48,860
and let's get on
and call it a night.
797
00:33:49,069 --> 00:33:51,154
- All right?
- [Art] Thank you.
798
00:33:57,619 --> 00:33:58,995
[Erik] Guys...
799
00:33:59,162 --> 00:34:00,830
we have several things to cover.
800
00:34:02,624 --> 00:34:04,042
Hi, Maddy.
Thanks for joining us.
801
00:34:04,209 --> 00:34:05,835
It's great to be back.
802
00:34:06,002 --> 00:34:09,714
Well, our work with Art Hardy
brought a new data type.
803
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:14,511
Not only are we seeing
a Navajo shaman ritual,
804
00:34:14,678 --> 00:34:17,639
but we're actually getting
brain wave measurements
805
00:34:17,764 --> 00:34:20,058
- during the course of this.
- Yeah.
806
00:34:21,059 --> 00:34:23,311
[Erik] Maddy,
I'm really interested to hear
807
00:34:23,478 --> 00:34:25,688
whether you've noticed
anything else unusual
808
00:34:25,855 --> 00:34:27,440
in these
brain scan measurements.
809
00:34:27,565 --> 00:34:28,984
[Maddy] Yeah, absolutely.
810
00:34:29,150 --> 00:34:30,694
It gave us
some really interesting data
811
00:34:30,860 --> 00:34:32,404
that I'm excited
to show you guys.
812
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,117
Here we got Art's baseline
813
00:34:37,284 --> 00:34:39,286
before we went into
any homestead.
814
00:34:40,328 --> 00:34:42,121
So, clean, stable activity
815
00:34:42,289 --> 00:34:46,293
that looks entirely typical
for a healthy adult brain.
816
00:34:46,458 --> 00:34:49,379
You see these
well-organized brain rhythms.
817
00:34:49,545 --> 00:34:50,922
Right.
818
00:34:51,047 --> 00:34:52,924
[Maddy] Okay, guys.
819
00:34:54,134 --> 00:34:55,844
[Travis] Whoa.
820
00:34:55,969 --> 00:34:57,637
[Maddy] This is
when Art was starting
821
00:34:57,762 --> 00:34:59,681
to step into the homestead.
822
00:34:59,806 --> 00:35:01,391
[Erik] Huge changes.
823
00:35:01,558 --> 00:35:03,184
- [Travis] Isn't that crazy?
- [Erik] Wow.
824
00:35:04,227 --> 00:35:06,563
You're looking at
these high amplitudes.
825
00:35:06,730 --> 00:35:08,565
Very, very odd, right?
826
00:35:08,732 --> 00:35:10,358
[Erik] Wow.
827
00:35:12,068 --> 00:35:15,405
So, I'm gonna go ahead and
share this next clip with you.
828
00:35:16,489 --> 00:35:18,950
When he entered the homestead,
829
00:35:19,117 --> 00:35:20,827
the EEG shifted into something
830
00:35:20,994 --> 00:35:25,081
we simply don't see
in normal physiology
831
00:35:25,206 --> 00:35:29,044
and cannot be explained
by conventional neuroscience.
832
00:35:29,210 --> 00:35:30,545
[Travis] Man, look at that.
833
00:35:30,712 --> 00:35:32,547
Yeah, this one, I remember
834
00:35:32,714 --> 00:35:34,549
she said that Art looked calm
835
00:35:34,716 --> 00:35:37,510
- and the scan should read normal
at this point. -[Erik] Mm-hmm.
836
00:35:37,677 --> 00:35:39,846
Yes. So, instead of
organized rhythms,
837
00:35:40,013 --> 00:35:41,264
there were sudden bursts
of anomalous,
838
00:35:41,431 --> 00:35:43,642
high-amplitude activity.
839
00:35:44,768 --> 00:35:47,646
So, the shift from
a perfectly normal baseline
840
00:35:47,812 --> 00:35:50,273
to an inexplainable,
841
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,400
system-wide anomaly, right,
842
00:35:52,525 --> 00:35:54,611
suggests that Art's brain--
843
00:35:54,778 --> 00:35:56,196
or the recording system itself--
844
00:35:56,363 --> 00:35:57,947
was being influenced
845
00:35:58,114 --> 00:36:00,283
by an unknown external factor.
846
00:36:00,450 --> 00:36:02,619
- Oh, wow.
- [Travis] That's cool.
847
00:36:02,827 --> 00:36:04,204
According to Maddy,
848
00:36:04,371 --> 00:36:06,456
Art should have been having
a total meltdown
849
00:36:06,623 --> 00:36:08,458
for his brain scans
to look like that.
850
00:36:08,667 --> 00:36:10,752
But he was completely calm
the whole time.
851
00:36:10,919 --> 00:36:13,922
Maybe the EEG device
was malfunctioning.
852
00:36:14,089 --> 00:36:16,216
Or else it was like
something in the homestead
853
00:36:16,424 --> 00:36:18,176
may have hijacked the EEG
854
00:36:18,343 --> 00:36:21,179
and gave us
all that crazy data.
855
00:36:21,388 --> 00:36:22,722
[Erik] Wow.
856
00:36:23,973 --> 00:36:25,642
Well, Maddy,
I'm especially interested
857
00:36:25,809 --> 00:36:29,521
in your take on the performance
of the device itself.
858
00:36:29,646 --> 00:36:30,939
Right.
859
00:36:31,147 --> 00:36:32,607
[Erik] I recall
it stopped working when
860
00:36:32,774 --> 00:36:34,359
Art entered
the homestead building.
861
00:36:34,526 --> 00:36:36,027
[Maddy] Yeah, absolutely.
862
00:36:36,194 --> 00:36:39,364
What made it so weird is
we were probably only about
863
00:36:39,531 --> 00:36:41,991
ten feet away
from each other when
864
00:36:42,158 --> 00:36:43,910
the signal completely dropped
865
00:36:44,077 --> 00:36:46,162
and we could not get a read on
the cap anymore, right?
866
00:36:46,329 --> 00:36:47,956
'Cause we've got
30 feet of range there.
867
00:36:48,123 --> 00:36:51,918
Have you ever encountered
this before,
868
00:36:52,085 --> 00:36:53,670
anywhere else?
869
00:36:53,837 --> 00:36:55,797
Well, it's not something
I've ever encountered before.
870
00:36:56,965 --> 00:36:58,717
And that's what makes it
so compelling.
871
00:36:58,883 --> 00:37:00,468
It raises the possibility
872
00:37:00,635 --> 00:37:01,928
that the, you know,
the homestead,
873
00:37:02,095 --> 00:37:03,430
the environment itself,
874
00:37:03,596 --> 00:37:06,599
is capable of
disrupting the EEG.
875
00:37:06,725 --> 00:37:08,101
[Erik] That really makes me want
876
00:37:08,309 --> 00:37:09,436
to show you some things
out of Meta-Frame.
877
00:37:09,602 --> 00:37:11,980
I've got a few interesting hits,
878
00:37:12,188 --> 00:37:13,440
you know,
from the video processing,
879
00:37:13,565 --> 00:37:15,233
so I'm gonna bring those up.
880
00:37:16,609 --> 00:37:18,361
So, what we're looking at here
881
00:37:18,486 --> 00:37:20,363
is from the cameras on the mesa
882
00:37:20,488 --> 00:37:22,282
looking down on Homestead Two.
883
00:37:22,407 --> 00:37:24,492
Also, getting
a good view of the sky.
884
00:37:24,659 --> 00:37:26,953
[Travis] That's
a great vantage point.
885
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:28,496
Just watch what happens.
886
00:37:29,748 --> 00:37:31,207
As I move us through the time,
887
00:37:31,374 --> 00:37:33,251
you can see aircraft
in the distance,
888
00:37:33,418 --> 00:37:34,919
you see stars.
889
00:37:36,671 --> 00:37:38,923
There, right there.
890
00:37:39,090 --> 00:37:40,508
So, you see that feature
891
00:37:40,675 --> 00:37:41,801
- right here? -[Kaleb] Yeah.
- [Travis] Oh.
892
00:37:41,968 --> 00:37:43,219
[Erik] We've got
something happening
893
00:37:43,428 --> 00:37:44,971
in the top portion of the image
894
00:37:45,138 --> 00:37:48,558
while we're doing the activities
that are on the ground.
895
00:37:48,725 --> 00:37:50,477
[Kaleb] That's right over
Homestead Two.
896
00:37:50,643 --> 00:37:52,353
[Travis] What in the world
is that?
897
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,397
That's got to be hundreds
of feet in the air.
898
00:37:54,564 --> 00:37:56,691
I'm not sure what this is.
899
00:37:56,858 --> 00:37:58,443
Well...
900
00:37:58,610 --> 00:38:01,154
[Travis] Makes me wonder if
we're looking at a UAP.
901
00:38:05,950 --> 00:38:07,327
[Erik] I'm not sure
what this is.
902
00:38:08,369 --> 00:38:11,456
[Travis] Makes me wonder if
we're looking at a UAP.
903
00:38:11,623 --> 00:38:13,458
I want to take us
forward in time.
904
00:38:13,666 --> 00:38:16,586
And again, we're still seeing
this... this feature.
905
00:38:16,753 --> 00:38:19,130
- [Travis] Look how it's just
sitting there... -[Erik] Mm-hmm.
906
00:38:19,297 --> 00:38:22,425
[Travis]...and it looks
very much like a
907
00:38:22,592 --> 00:38:25,053
cylinder with a top on it.
908
00:38:26,012 --> 00:38:28,515
That's... Wow.
909
00:38:31,351 --> 00:38:33,478
- Your drone wasn't up, right?
- [Pete] No.
910
00:38:33,645 --> 00:38:35,355
[Erik] Right. This is
not a drone, guys.
911
00:38:35,522 --> 00:38:37,023
[Travis] Incredible.
912
00:38:37,607 --> 00:38:40,401
The processed video revealed
the strangest-looking UAP
913
00:38:40,568 --> 00:38:42,278
we've ever seen,
914
00:38:42,403 --> 00:38:44,781
hundreds of feet in the air
above Homestead Two.
915
00:38:44,989 --> 00:38:47,492
And it appeared to be
staying there throughout
916
00:38:47,659 --> 00:38:49,953
our experiment with
Art's Navajo ceremony.
917
00:38:50,119 --> 00:38:51,579
So the big questions are:
918
00:38:51,788 --> 00:38:54,040
did the ceremony
cause it to appear?
919
00:38:54,165 --> 00:38:55,875
And what the heck was it?
920
00:38:56,751 --> 00:38:58,962
One thing that really
stood out is that while
921
00:38:59,128 --> 00:39:02,590
Art was performing his ceremony,
922
00:39:02,757 --> 00:39:04,384
we were seeing heating.
923
00:39:04,551 --> 00:39:06,511
I want to get your eyes on this.
924
00:39:07,762 --> 00:39:11,266
Yeah, so we're just, you know,
a few minutes into the ceremony.
925
00:39:12,308 --> 00:39:15,895
And this view is
facing the homestead itself.
926
00:39:16,062 --> 00:39:19,941
Okay? It was as if
the foliage on the trees, uh,
927
00:39:20,149 --> 00:39:22,318
and that whole surrounding
area were getting warmer
928
00:39:22,443 --> 00:39:23,945
during the course of this.
929
00:39:24,112 --> 00:39:25,363
I don't have a good
explanation for that.
930
00:39:25,488 --> 00:39:27,657
- Why?
- Should have been the opposite.
931
00:39:27,866 --> 00:39:29,242
Should--
It should be the opposite.
932
00:39:31,244 --> 00:39:33,037
[Erik] We have the possibility
that we are
933
00:39:33,204 --> 00:39:36,499
dealing with a legitimate UAP
in the Meta-Frame record
934
00:39:36,708 --> 00:39:38,418
during Art's ceremony.
935
00:39:38,626 --> 00:39:42,213
Deepening the mystery is
the possible connection to
936
00:39:42,380 --> 00:39:45,133
the unexpected heating
937
00:39:45,300 --> 00:39:47,844
of the leaves on the trees
around the homestead.
938
00:39:48,011 --> 00:39:50,096
The top-level question
is whether
939
00:39:50,263 --> 00:39:53,516
something, uh,
that is part of Art's ceremony
940
00:39:53,683 --> 00:39:55,768
could trigger that phenomenon.
941
00:39:57,604 --> 00:39:59,480
This has been one of
the most interesting
942
00:39:59,647 --> 00:40:01,482
and disturbing reviews.
943
00:40:01,649 --> 00:40:02,901
[Travis] And it sounds
like we've only
944
00:40:03,109 --> 00:40:04,319
- scratched the surface.
- [Erik] Yeah.
945
00:40:04,444 --> 00:40:06,237
This behooves us
946
00:40:06,362 --> 00:40:08,406
to come up with more experiments
947
00:40:08,573 --> 00:40:10,909
to figure out what's happening
at Homestead Two.
948
00:40:11,075 --> 00:40:12,285
[Erik] Yes.
949
00:40:12,452 --> 00:40:14,954
Maddy, thank you for
running through the data.
950
00:40:15,121 --> 00:40:16,664
We will absolutely
be in touch soon.
951
00:40:16,831 --> 00:40:18,374
- Perfect. Thanks, guys.
- [Travis] Thank you very much.
952
00:40:18,541 --> 00:40:19,876
See you later.
953
00:40:20,043 --> 00:40:21,586
[Maddy] We'll see ya.
954
00:40:23,338 --> 00:40:25,548
♪ ♪
955
00:40:25,715 --> 00:40:27,675
[Erik] We still don't have
a complete picture
956
00:40:27,842 --> 00:40:29,761
about what's going on
at Homestead Two.
957
00:40:29,928 --> 00:40:31,763
Could there be some
958
00:40:31,888 --> 00:40:33,932
as yet unaccounted for
influence
959
00:40:34,098 --> 00:40:36,517
that is interfering
with the devices
960
00:40:36,684 --> 00:40:39,938
as well as causing
sometimes profound experiences
961
00:40:40,146 --> 00:40:41,522
for human beings?
962
00:40:42,899 --> 00:40:45,485
And if so,
what are we interacting with,
963
00:40:45,652 --> 00:40:46,986
there at the homestead?
964
00:40:47,153 --> 00:40:49,614
I'd like to know as much
as possible about that.
965
00:40:51,282 --> 00:40:53,076
[Travis] Understanding
Homestead Two
966
00:40:53,242 --> 00:40:56,162
isn't just about the strange
activity we've seen there.
967
00:40:56,329 --> 00:41:00,124
It's about how it all fits
into the bigger picture
968
00:41:00,291 --> 00:41:03,628
of what we've been witnessing
out here on Skinwalker Ranch.
969
00:41:05,129 --> 00:41:08,466
[Brandon] These ominous,
foreboding structures
970
00:41:08,633 --> 00:41:11,678
at Homestead Two
continue to hold secrets.
971
00:41:11,844 --> 00:41:15,306
So much of the phenomena
that has been reported there
972
00:41:15,473 --> 00:41:18,142
leaves many participants
disturbed.
973
00:41:18,309 --> 00:41:22,855
But further investigation can
give us answers, and insights,
974
00:41:23,022 --> 00:41:24,482
if we dare.
975
00:41:24,607 --> 00:41:27,235
CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY
A+E NETWORKS
976
00:41:30,196 --> 00:41:32,156
I think that drill's
on something big.
977
00:41:32,323 --> 00:41:33,866
[Thomas] Whoa!
978
00:41:34,033 --> 00:41:35,159
- [Jed] Oh, holy smokes.
- [Travis] Shakin' the drill.
979
00:41:35,284 --> 00:41:36,577
Feels like you're hitting metal.
980
00:41:36,786 --> 00:41:38,121
I mean, that could be it.
981
00:41:38,246 --> 00:41:40,206
[Pete] We're getting drones
doing circular
982
00:41:40,373 --> 00:41:42,041
patterns all over the triangle.
983
00:41:42,166 --> 00:41:44,085
- Oh, my god.
- They're coming down.
984
00:41:44,210 --> 00:41:46,045
[Kaleb] Something's
definitely wrong.
985
00:41:46,170 --> 00:41:48,172
[Sam] The interesting things
we were seeing
986
00:41:48,339 --> 00:41:50,133
with 750 feet
above ground level...
987
00:41:50,299 --> 00:41:53,594
[Travis] There's a big, magnetic
anomaly floating up there.
988
00:41:53,761 --> 00:41:55,596
- Wow.
- That's crazy.
989
00:41:55,763 --> 00:41:58,266
♪ ♪