1 00:00:02,127 --> 00:00:03,462 -[Chris] It's shaking the drill. -[Thomas] Holy smokes, 2 00:00:03,629 --> 00:00:04,880 do you have a sense on what you're grinding on? 3 00:00:05,088 --> 00:00:06,381 It feels like you're hitting metal. 4 00:00:07,758 --> 00:00:10,302 -You find something? -Yeah. 5 00:00:10,427 --> 00:00:13,555 Look at that. That's a lot of metal. 6 00:00:13,722 --> 00:00:16,099 [Royston] I got something here. It's this object, right there. 7 00:00:16,225 --> 00:00:17,518 [Brandon] That's a UFO. 8 00:00:17,726 --> 00:00:20,729 It is clear that we're seeing consistency 9 00:00:20,896 --> 00:00:25,025 as far as the type of UFO that seems to be appearing 10 00:00:25,192 --> 00:00:26,735 -inside the bubble. -[Erik] Absolutely. 11 00:00:26,902 --> 00:00:28,612 Yeah. 12 00:00:28,779 --> 00:00:30,197 Dang. 13 00:00:30,364 --> 00:00:32,198 Look at that. That one's not even forming. 14 00:00:32,406 --> 00:00:34,868 [Thomas] It's always that same spot right there. 15 00:00:35,035 --> 00:00:37,120 [Travis] Yes. Inside the bubble. 16 00:00:37,329 --> 00:00:38,914 Look over there in the distance. 17 00:00:39,081 --> 00:00:40,624 -[Royston] In the bottom. -[Travis] Look right there. 18 00:00:40,791 --> 00:00:42,793 -Look at that. -Yeah. There's something there. 19 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,505 [Travis] Looks like a spaceship from sci-fi, man. 20 00:00:47,631 --> 00:00:51,051 [Narrator] There is a ranch in Northern Utah. 21 00:00:51,218 --> 00:00:53,637 It is considered the epicenter 22 00:00:53,804 --> 00:00:58,850 of the strangest and most disturbing occurrences on Earth. 23 00:00:59,017 --> 00:01:00,727 For two decades, 24 00:01:00,894 --> 00:01:02,354 the federal government 25 00:01:02,521 --> 00:01:04,105 investigated the property. 26 00:01:04,272 --> 00:01:07,693 Their findings have never been made public. 27 00:01:07,859 --> 00:01:09,111 [Travis] Right there! We got something! 28 00:01:09,278 --> 00:01:11,071 [Narrator] Now a new team 29 00:01:11,238 --> 00:01:15,033 of independent scientists and researchers are taking over. 30 00:01:15,617 --> 00:01:16,952 They are uncovering evidence 31 00:01:17,119 --> 00:01:18,912 that the countless stories... 32 00:01:19,079 --> 00:01:20,872 It came right out of the mesa. 33 00:01:21,039 --> 00:01:23,458 ...of unidentified aerial phenomena... 34 00:01:23,625 --> 00:01:24,918 -UAP right there! -Yep. 35 00:01:25,127 --> 00:01:26,628 ...bizarre energies... 36 00:01:26,795 --> 00:01:28,547 It looks like there's a heat source right above 'em. 37 00:01:28,714 --> 00:01:31,383 ...and portals that lead to other dimensions... 38 00:01:31,508 --> 00:01:32,759 We're maybe looking at the anomaly 39 00:01:32,968 --> 00:01:34,177 for the first time, guys. 40 00:01:34,303 --> 00:01:36,680 ...might actually be true. 41 00:01:36,888 --> 00:01:39,474 They will stop at nothing to reveal... 42 00:01:42,227 --> 00:01:45,731 ...The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch. 43 00:01:53,071 --> 00:01:56,491 [Brandon] What a historic time to pull everyone together, 44 00:01:56,658 --> 00:01:59,745 and what an amazing year we've had. 45 00:01:59,911 --> 00:02:03,123 I want to thank everyone for pulling this together 46 00:02:03,290 --> 00:02:04,708 for our final briefing. 47 00:02:05,792 --> 00:02:07,669 [Travis] After a year of groundbreaking new experiments 48 00:02:07,836 --> 00:02:09,295 on Skinwalker Ranch, 49 00:02:09,463 --> 00:02:11,131 Brandon has gathered our team at his office 50 00:02:11,298 --> 00:02:12,716 in Salt Lake City, Utah, 51 00:02:12,883 --> 00:02:15,677 for a final review of all the data we collected 52 00:02:15,886 --> 00:02:18,347 and to discuss the future of our investigation. 53 00:02:18,513 --> 00:02:20,223 [Brandon] I'm very excited, 54 00:02:20,349 --> 00:02:23,310 and I also want to welcome our special guests. 55 00:02:23,477 --> 00:02:26,021 Dr. Jan Francke, who has been with us 56 00:02:26,146 --> 00:02:28,398 -through this investigation. -Indeed. [chuckles] 57 00:02:28,607 --> 00:02:30,359 I'd also like to thank Jay Stratton, 58 00:02:30,567 --> 00:02:32,653 senior intelligence official 59 00:02:32,819 --> 00:02:35,113 who has been a key part of taking 60 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,658 this whole investigation forward. 61 00:02:37,824 --> 00:02:39,451 Appreciate it. 62 00:02:39,618 --> 00:02:42,579 And of course, welcoming Dr. Hal Puthoff, 63 00:02:42,704 --> 00:02:46,541 uh, one of the most respected physicists on the planet. 64 00:02:46,667 --> 00:02:49,586 Dr. Puthoff, thank you so much for joining us. 65 00:02:49,753 --> 00:02:52,130 Well, it's a pleasure. I appreciate the-the invitation. 66 00:02:52,297 --> 00:02:56,301 And it's crazy to think, almost 30 years ago, 67 00:02:56,426 --> 00:02:59,221 you landed at Skinwalker Ranch with Robert Bigelow... 68 00:02:59,346 --> 00:03:01,306 -That's right. -...to launch the scientific investigation 69 00:03:01,473 --> 00:03:02,766 at that time. 70 00:03:02,933 --> 00:03:05,185 [Harold] Thank you. I am glad to be 71 00:03:05,352 --> 00:03:06,853 a-a part of it t-today. 72 00:03:07,938 --> 00:03:10,482 [Travis] Having Dr. Hal Puthoff join us for this meeting 73 00:03:10,691 --> 00:03:12,818 is a chance to share our findings with someone who, 74 00:03:12,943 --> 00:03:14,361 just like Jay Stratton, 75 00:03:14,569 --> 00:03:16,613 has his own history on Skinwalker Ranch. 76 00:03:17,614 --> 00:03:19,783 In the 1990s and early 2000s, 77 00:03:19,908 --> 00:03:22,160 Dr. Puthoff reported to Jay as a key member 78 00:03:22,369 --> 00:03:24,329 of the federal government's investigation 79 00:03:24,496 --> 00:03:26,915 at Skinwalker Ranch with Robert Bigelow. 80 00:03:27,082 --> 00:03:28,959 He also worked for the CIA 81 00:03:29,167 --> 00:03:31,795 and served as a senior advisor to the Pentagon's 82 00:03:31,962 --> 00:03:34,256 Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, 83 00:03:34,423 --> 00:03:35,757 or AATIP. 84 00:03:35,966 --> 00:03:37,884 That was a secret government study 85 00:03:38,051 --> 00:03:42,347 of UAP phenomena between 2007 and 2012. 86 00:03:42,514 --> 00:03:44,224 And most incredibly, 87 00:03:44,391 --> 00:03:46,893 he made worldwide headlines this year 88 00:03:47,060 --> 00:03:50,147 when he publicly stated that our government has recovered 89 00:03:50,313 --> 00:03:52,983 physical evidence of extraterrestrial crafts 90 00:03:53,150 --> 00:03:54,443 and beings. 91 00:03:54,609 --> 00:03:56,153 So, it's gonna be amazing 92 00:03:56,319 --> 00:03:58,029 to get his reaction to what we've found, 93 00:03:58,196 --> 00:03:59,906 and any insights he can share 94 00:04:00,073 --> 00:04:04,661 based on his years of experience both on and off the ranch. 95 00:04:04,828 --> 00:04:06,121 [Brandon] As we're looking back 96 00:04:06,329 --> 00:04:07,789 and reflecting on 97 00:04:07,956 --> 00:04:12,627 the incredible, uh, discoveries of this last year, 98 00:04:12,794 --> 00:04:16,464 uh, we've seen stunning evidence 99 00:04:16,630 --> 00:04:19,718 that underscores how important this investigation is. 100 00:04:19,926 --> 00:04:21,887 [Royston] Yeah. This year, 101 00:04:22,053 --> 00:04:25,223 to me, it-it stepped up a level. 102 00:04:25,348 --> 00:04:28,351 Yeah. Well, I'm gonna pass 103 00:04:28,518 --> 00:04:30,771 the, uh, torch here to Erik. 104 00:04:30,937 --> 00:04:32,314 Uh, if you don't mind walking us through 105 00:04:32,481 --> 00:04:35,817 -the latest findings and review. -[Erik] Yeah, sure. 106 00:04:35,984 --> 00:04:38,820 Dr. Puthoff, before we get into some of the data 107 00:04:38,945 --> 00:04:41,364 from our final experiment, I think I'll start with 108 00:04:41,531 --> 00:04:42,783 what we call the bubble, 109 00:04:42,949 --> 00:04:44,493 because it was a main focus 110 00:04:44,659 --> 00:04:46,620 of our experiments this year. 111 00:04:46,745 --> 00:04:49,414 -Oh, yes. -Um, you know, here is 112 00:04:49,581 --> 00:04:52,584 a representation of the bubble. 113 00:04:53,543 --> 00:04:55,754 We're not exactly sure what it is, 114 00:04:55,921 --> 00:04:59,257 but in our lidar reviews, it's portrayed as a giant sphere 115 00:04:59,382 --> 00:05:00,634 in the middle of the ranch. 116 00:05:00,801 --> 00:05:03,136 It's invisible to the naked eye. 117 00:05:03,303 --> 00:05:07,307 And we've seen strange effects all around its boundary, 118 00:05:07,474 --> 00:05:12,103 and as you can see, it appears above and below ground. 119 00:05:12,270 --> 00:05:14,397 [Travis] And dead center above the bubble 120 00:05:14,606 --> 00:05:16,441 -is the triangle. -Really? Oh. 121 00:05:16,650 --> 00:05:19,069 So, the final experiment that we did 122 00:05:19,236 --> 00:05:21,822 was centered at the triangle, because we've repeatedly 123 00:05:21,988 --> 00:05:25,826 seen evidence of some kind of blob right above the triangle. 124 00:05:25,951 --> 00:05:27,828 Oh. 125 00:05:28,912 --> 00:05:31,998 [Travis] We've only seen the blob once, back in 2022, 126 00:05:32,207 --> 00:05:34,417 when it appeared right after a rocket exploded 127 00:05:34,543 --> 00:05:36,628 31 feet above the triangle. 128 00:05:36,795 --> 00:05:39,297 Our high-speed camera clearly captured something 129 00:05:39,464 --> 00:05:41,466 that materialized out of thin air. 130 00:05:42,551 --> 00:05:44,803 This year, we've seen smaller rockets 131 00:05:44,970 --> 00:05:47,264 diverted at that same level. 132 00:05:47,430 --> 00:05:50,308 We've seen smoke that we shot through that space 133 00:05:50,475 --> 00:05:52,435 appear to trace around something invisible 134 00:05:52,644 --> 00:05:54,813 with the same shape as the blob. 135 00:05:55,981 --> 00:05:59,359 Heck, we even saw electricity from a Tesla coil gun 136 00:05:59,568 --> 00:06:02,571 get pulled upwards toward something right there, too. 137 00:06:02,737 --> 00:06:05,407 We hoped that our final experiment of the year, 138 00:06:05,574 --> 00:06:07,576 where we used explosions from the fuel mines 139 00:06:07,742 --> 00:06:09,202 that created smoke rings, 140 00:06:09,411 --> 00:06:12,080 might get this dang thing to reveal itself again 141 00:06:12,289 --> 00:06:15,166 so we could figure out just what the heck it is. 142 00:06:15,333 --> 00:06:16,960 And we were detonating 143 00:06:17,168 --> 00:06:19,254 these fuel mines at the triangle 144 00:06:19,421 --> 00:06:21,590 that are supposed to make perfect smoke rings 145 00:06:21,756 --> 00:06:23,174 and-and perfect fireballs, 146 00:06:23,341 --> 00:06:24,759 so that if something interferes 147 00:06:24,968 --> 00:06:26,595 with these rings, we would see it. 148 00:06:26,761 --> 00:06:28,513 And maybe even the blob. 149 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,807 -Oh, my. -Wow. 150 00:06:30,974 --> 00:06:32,684 This is an interesting clip of one of those 151 00:06:32,851 --> 00:06:34,561 fuel mine detonations. 152 00:06:34,769 --> 00:06:36,771 I'm gonna bring that one up. 153 00:06:38,064 --> 00:06:41,943 This is drone footage looking straight down at the triangle. 154 00:06:42,110 --> 00:06:43,320 So, we're looking almost straight down 155 00:06:43,528 --> 00:06:45,113 the path of the lasers. 156 00:06:48,491 --> 00:06:50,577 [Jim] Wow, look at that. 157 00:06:50,744 --> 00:06:54,205 [Travis] Now, these are supposed to form a perfect smoke ring, 158 00:06:54,372 --> 00:06:56,625 and they do every time anywhere else, 159 00:06:56,791 --> 00:06:58,793 but not on Skinwalker Ranch. 160 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:00,629 [Hal] That is not a smoking ring. 161 00:07:00,795 --> 00:07:02,464 [Jay] No. 162 00:07:02,631 --> 00:07:04,633 -Which is really odd. -It is irregular. 163 00:07:06,301 --> 00:07:08,428 [Travis] I mean, they've done thousands of shows, 164 00:07:08,595 --> 00:07:11,222 and it worked exactly right every time. 165 00:07:11,348 --> 00:07:13,933 So, what is stopping it from working at the triangle? 166 00:07:14,100 --> 00:07:17,312 And so, something has to be changing the flow dynamics 167 00:07:17,479 --> 00:07:19,356 -of the explosion. -[Erik] Yes. 168 00:07:19,522 --> 00:07:22,400 That's a key point, you know, something about our experiments 169 00:07:22,609 --> 00:07:24,027 seems to trigger these effects. 170 00:07:24,194 --> 00:07:25,820 [Travis] That's a really good point. 171 00:07:25,945 --> 00:07:30,367 The correlation is too specific to be a coincidence. 172 00:07:30,533 --> 00:07:31,868 And they tend to coincide 173 00:07:32,035 --> 00:07:33,787 with other strange phenomena appearing, too. 174 00:07:33,953 --> 00:07:35,413 Yeah, that'd be tr... 175 00:07:35,580 --> 00:07:38,041 Yeah, that would, that'd be very significant. 176 00:07:38,249 --> 00:07:39,876 [Travis] During this final experiment, 177 00:07:40,043 --> 00:07:42,462 we also had Dave Mason's FLIR camera. 178 00:07:42,587 --> 00:07:44,422 -Oh, my. -[Erik] Yeah, in fact, 179 00:07:44,589 --> 00:07:46,299 I've already reached out to him, I'm connected, 180 00:07:46,424 --> 00:07:48,301 and we'll bring him up. 181 00:07:50,470 --> 00:07:52,597 Hi, Dave. Thanks for jumping on with us. 182 00:07:52,806 --> 00:07:55,433 Hey, thanks for having me. 183 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,812 [Erik] So, David, I'm gonna play the clip you sent me, 184 00:07:58,978 --> 00:08:01,606 and, uh, you can, uh, help us to interpret 185 00:08:01,773 --> 00:08:02,982 what we're looking at. 186 00:08:03,149 --> 00:08:04,526 Okay. 187 00:08:04,693 --> 00:08:06,361 So, let's see. 188 00:08:06,569 --> 00:08:10,115 -Okay. -[Dave] So, this is the mesa looking north. 189 00:08:10,281 --> 00:08:13,743 W-While we were conducting the experiments, uh, 190 00:08:13,868 --> 00:08:15,286 with the explosions, 191 00:08:15,453 --> 00:08:18,081 we began to see thermal anomalies, 192 00:08:18,289 --> 00:08:20,166 particularly behind the mesa. 193 00:08:20,333 --> 00:08:22,544 [Erik] So, what are we seeing happen here? 194 00:08:23,586 --> 00:08:29,050 It looks like a part of the ridgeline is heating up. 195 00:08:29,217 --> 00:08:32,178 And, uh, it's-it's heating up 196 00:08:32,345 --> 00:08:35,682 a-at a level that's greater than the mesa itself. 197 00:08:35,890 --> 00:08:37,142 [Brandon] Wow, look at that. 198 00:08:37,267 --> 00:08:38,684 Wow. 199 00:08:38,852 --> 00:08:40,937 Where is it coming from? 200 00:08:41,104 --> 00:08:43,523 That spot is heating up or it's reflecting a source 201 00:08:43,690 --> 00:08:46,192 from somewhere inside the mesa. 202 00:08:46,359 --> 00:08:49,029 The bubble could be causing these, uh, 203 00:08:49,195 --> 00:08:51,740 unusual measurements and readings that we're getting 204 00:08:51,865 --> 00:08:53,700 all over the ranch. 205 00:08:53,825 --> 00:08:56,745 And, you know, the question is, why is it doing this? 206 00:08:56,870 --> 00:08:58,455 Yep. 207 00:08:59,789 --> 00:09:02,709 Why-why, why would we have rocks heating up like that? 208 00:09:02,876 --> 00:09:05,128 [Travis] This year, our experiments inside the bubble 209 00:09:05,295 --> 00:09:08,506 have revealed several large masses of heat 210 00:09:08,673 --> 00:09:10,091 that were hotter than the environment 211 00:09:10,258 --> 00:09:12,343 by more than 20 degrees. 212 00:09:12,469 --> 00:09:15,597 Dave Mason has captured these on his thermal cameras 213 00:09:15,764 --> 00:09:18,475 at various altitudes inside the bubble. 214 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,311 But he's also caught them showing up above 215 00:09:21,478 --> 00:09:23,605 or just behind the mesa. 216 00:09:23,772 --> 00:09:26,024 We have no idea yet why our activities 217 00:09:26,149 --> 00:09:28,026 seem to trigger these things. 218 00:09:28,193 --> 00:09:30,904 But our work this year has repeatedly produced 219 00:09:31,029 --> 00:09:33,198 evidence that phenomena in the bubble 220 00:09:33,364 --> 00:09:36,034 and around the mesa may be connected. 221 00:09:36,201 --> 00:09:39,871 The kind of, uh, group dynamics you've put together 222 00:09:40,038 --> 00:09:41,706 and the instrumentation you put together 223 00:09:41,873 --> 00:09:45,251 and the results that are coming out of the experiments 224 00:09:45,418 --> 00:09:47,378 are just so advanced. 225 00:09:47,545 --> 00:09:49,881 I mean, i-it's just thrilling for me to be able to see 226 00:09:50,090 --> 00:09:51,966 that-that kind of output. 227 00:09:52,133 --> 00:09:53,885 You-you know, Dr. Puthoff, 228 00:09:54,052 --> 00:09:55,845 -t-there's a question... -Call me Hal. I'm-I'm very... 229 00:09:56,012 --> 00:09:57,472 -[laughter] -Sure. 230 00:09:57,639 --> 00:09:59,224 Hal, that's just the beginning 231 00:09:59,390 --> 00:10:01,267 of what we found out about this bubble. 232 00:10:01,434 --> 00:10:02,936 -Okay. -[Travis] Yeah, you need to see 233 00:10:03,103 --> 00:10:05,438 what we found much higher above the blob. 234 00:10:05,647 --> 00:10:07,023 [Erik] Yeah. I want to show you 235 00:10:07,190 --> 00:10:09,901 some of the, uh, highlights of that exercise. 236 00:10:10,985 --> 00:10:12,737 You won't be able to believe this. 237 00:10:17,075 --> 00:10:18,243 [Travis] You need to see what we found 238 00:10:18,451 --> 00:10:20,036 much higher above the blob. 239 00:10:20,203 --> 00:10:21,830 -Really? -[Erik] Yes. -[Royston] Oh, yeah. 240 00:10:21,996 --> 00:10:23,665 [Travis] Erik, you know, one thing we should do is maybe 241 00:10:23,790 --> 00:10:27,836 -preface the altitudes of interest. -Mm-hmm. 242 00:10:28,419 --> 00:10:30,630 [Travis] Thanks to the work we did with the drones, 243 00:10:30,797 --> 00:10:34,134 we know that between 750 to 1,000 feet, 244 00:10:34,300 --> 00:10:36,010 there's a magnetic anomaly. 245 00:10:36,177 --> 00:10:39,180 And then, at 2,000 feet is the top of the bubble. 246 00:10:39,347 --> 00:10:42,392 Then there's another magnetic anomaly at 3,200 feet, 247 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,186 where something took control of our instruments 248 00:10:45,311 --> 00:10:48,022 and made them suddenly drop out of the sky. 249 00:10:48,148 --> 00:10:49,482 It's pretty amazing. 250 00:10:49,691 --> 00:10:51,109 -Wow. -[Erik] Yes. 251 00:10:51,276 --> 00:10:53,153 So, we had a follow-up exercise 252 00:10:53,319 --> 00:10:56,447 to our many drone, uh, activities on the ranch 253 00:10:56,614 --> 00:10:59,284 scheduled over the triangle area. 254 00:10:59,492 --> 00:11:01,828 And, uh, so, the Sky Elements team put together 255 00:11:01,995 --> 00:11:03,371 a drone flight pattern. 256 00:11:03,538 --> 00:11:05,957 We were launching four drones at a time 257 00:11:06,124 --> 00:11:08,251 just to see how things would go, uh, with their system 258 00:11:08,418 --> 00:11:10,837 going higher than they've ever gone before. 259 00:11:11,004 --> 00:11:12,755 [Ellis] Drones are up. 260 00:11:12,922 --> 00:11:15,383 [Travis] Earlier this year, Sky Elements launched 100 drones 261 00:11:15,508 --> 00:11:18,136 above the triangle, and found that a giant mass 262 00:11:18,303 --> 00:11:19,762 of electromagnetic energy 263 00:11:19,971 --> 00:11:21,723 was causing a break in their communication 264 00:11:21,931 --> 00:11:24,934 between 750 and 1,000 feet. 265 00:11:25,101 --> 00:11:26,769 Looks like the swarm is getting movement 266 00:11:26,936 --> 00:11:29,022 all throughout the formation. 267 00:11:29,189 --> 00:11:31,900 [Travis] That made us wonder not only what it was 268 00:11:32,066 --> 00:11:34,944 but if it went even higher in the air. 269 00:11:35,069 --> 00:11:37,655 So, Sky Elements got a special permit with the FAA 270 00:11:37,822 --> 00:11:40,325 to fly up to 4,000 feet 271 00:11:40,533 --> 00:11:41,868 to see what they would encounter. 272 00:11:42,744 --> 00:11:44,579 Looks to me like they're falling. 273 00:11:44,746 --> 00:11:47,123 [Thomas] Drones coming down! Drones coming down! 274 00:11:47,290 --> 00:11:48,666 [Travis] And that's what led to this crazy 275 00:11:48,833 --> 00:11:50,877 and scary event where four drones 276 00:11:51,044 --> 00:11:52,420 were taken over by something 277 00:11:52,587 --> 00:11:55,423 at 3,200 feet and fell out of the sky. 278 00:11:55,548 --> 00:11:57,800 [Brian] Oh, my gosh. 279 00:11:58,009 --> 00:12:00,887 So, what in the world could these anomalies be? 280 00:12:01,054 --> 00:12:03,431 -And what causes them? -So, let's play this through. 281 00:12:06,976 --> 00:12:09,437 [Erik] We're watching the drones ascend. 282 00:12:09,604 --> 00:12:11,731 [Thomas] So, what you're seeing here is them reaching 283 00:12:11,898 --> 00:12:14,817 an altitude of 3,271 feet. 284 00:12:14,984 --> 00:12:16,444 [Hal] Uh-huh. 285 00:12:16,653 --> 00:12:18,321 [Erik] And that's when the drones were taken over. 286 00:12:18,529 --> 00:12:20,823 -[Brandon] Oh, my gosh. -[Travis] Look at that. 287 00:12:20,949 --> 00:12:23,243 [Travis] Something just told them to suddenly go 288 00:12:23,451 --> 00:12:25,870 in a different direction as fast as they could, 289 00:12:26,037 --> 00:12:28,248 and then, they turned themselves off 290 00:12:28,414 --> 00:12:31,584 and started falling from the sky at 3,000 feet. 291 00:12:31,709 --> 00:12:33,127 Wow. 292 00:12:34,379 --> 00:12:37,423 [Erik] Now, the way it was described to us by Sky Elements 293 00:12:37,548 --> 00:12:41,636 is that something or someone 294 00:12:41,803 --> 00:12:45,265 issued a command to those drones. 295 00:12:46,349 --> 00:12:48,101 A kill command. 296 00:12:48,268 --> 00:12:50,478 -Yes. -And the question is, 297 00:12:50,645 --> 00:12:52,855 who or what did that? 298 00:12:53,022 --> 00:12:55,900 [Thomas] It's important to note, as we reviewed 299 00:12:56,067 --> 00:13:00,029 the video record, we found evidence of flashes in the sky 300 00:13:00,196 --> 00:13:01,990 continuing through this flight. 301 00:13:02,156 --> 00:13:04,492 [Brandon] So, you had flashing 302 00:13:04,659 --> 00:13:06,619 throughout the experiment where all of this 303 00:13:06,786 --> 00:13:08,496 -was going crazy? -[Travis] Brandon, 304 00:13:08,663 --> 00:13:12,041 even more concerning is there's a flash 305 00:13:12,250 --> 00:13:14,919 directly over the drones at their apex. 306 00:13:15,086 --> 00:13:16,379 [Erik] Let me pull up one example. 307 00:13:16,546 --> 00:13:19,173 -Do you have that? -I do, yes. 308 00:13:19,340 --> 00:13:21,843 [Erik] This is gonna require some careful attention 309 00:13:22,051 --> 00:13:24,554 to a specific region of the screen. 310 00:13:24,721 --> 00:13:26,014 Okay. 311 00:13:26,180 --> 00:13:28,599 [Travis] Here's the video of that happening. 312 00:13:28,766 --> 00:13:30,226 [Erik] You'll see the drones coming. 313 00:13:30,393 --> 00:13:32,103 -[Travis] There's one. -[Royston] There's one. 314 00:13:32,228 --> 00:13:34,647 [Erik] You saw the flash? I'm gonna back up just a bit 315 00:13:34,814 --> 00:13:36,149 so we can all see it. 316 00:13:37,233 --> 00:13:39,819 Flash, boom. 317 00:13:39,986 --> 00:13:42,155 -Yep. -That's unequivocal. 318 00:13:42,321 --> 00:13:43,990 Uh, please replay that. 319 00:13:44,157 --> 00:13:45,450 You got it. 320 00:13:45,616 --> 00:13:47,035 [Travis] Tom was right. 321 00:13:47,201 --> 00:13:48,661 When Erik processed our surveillance video 322 00:13:48,828 --> 00:13:52,498 from the ground, he found that a star-like flash 323 00:13:52,665 --> 00:13:55,501 or some kind of UAP appeared out of nowhere 324 00:13:55,668 --> 00:13:57,795 above the drones as they lost power. 325 00:13:57,962 --> 00:14:00,673 So, did that UAP trigger the electromagnetic anomaly 326 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,176 to make the drones drop like that? 327 00:14:03,342 --> 00:14:04,927 [Thomas] We studied these things 328 00:14:05,094 --> 00:14:06,971 for a long time, and I don't know 329 00:14:07,138 --> 00:14:08,931 that we ever came to a conclusion 330 00:14:09,098 --> 00:14:10,516 -as to what they were. -[Erik] Yeah. 331 00:14:10,683 --> 00:14:12,560 [Travis] Out of all the data we've taken 332 00:14:12,769 --> 00:14:14,812 over the years, I think we collected 333 00:14:14,979 --> 00:14:16,856 that much data and then some-- 334 00:14:17,023 --> 00:14:19,025 multiple orders of magnitude more-- this year. 335 00:14:19,150 --> 00:14:22,361 And the UAP activity was higher than ever, too. 336 00:14:22,570 --> 00:14:23,821 [Erik] Yes. 337 00:14:23,988 --> 00:14:25,656 Whether it's involved electrostatic discharge, 338 00:14:25,823 --> 00:14:27,033 you know, we did the high-voltage experiments. 339 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:28,493 We did thermal experiments, 340 00:14:28,659 --> 00:14:31,370 rockets, of course, and Doppler radar. 341 00:14:31,537 --> 00:14:34,123 They all led to UAPs appearing above the ranch. 342 00:14:34,332 --> 00:14:37,001 -Yeah. -[Brandon] What we have on video footage 343 00:14:37,210 --> 00:14:41,714 is consistent with the reports going back decades. 344 00:14:41,881 --> 00:14:45,593 It's almost as if every time we probe the bubble, 345 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:47,887 we have UFOs caught on camera. 346 00:14:48,054 --> 00:14:49,472 Yeah, absolutely. 347 00:14:49,639 --> 00:14:50,932 [Travis] This year, 348 00:14:51,099 --> 00:14:53,226 we collected a lot of data that suggested 349 00:14:53,392 --> 00:14:55,144 the bubble could be the source of at least 350 00:14:55,269 --> 00:14:57,814 some of the UAP activity on the ranch. 351 00:14:57,980 --> 00:14:59,440 Look at this. 352 00:14:59,649 --> 00:15:01,067 In one instance at the triangle, 353 00:15:01,234 --> 00:15:03,236 a rocket hit something midair 354 00:15:03,402 --> 00:15:05,988 a few seconds after launch and got destroyed. 355 00:15:06,155 --> 00:15:09,367 Erik then found an image in the camera data 356 00:15:09,534 --> 00:15:11,119 of something glowing in the airspace 357 00:15:11,327 --> 00:15:12,954 at that very moment. 358 00:15:13,121 --> 00:15:14,872 [Cameron] All right. 359 00:15:15,039 --> 00:15:16,874 -We're dropping. -[Travis] Later this year, 360 00:15:17,041 --> 00:15:20,002 a team of Doppler radar experts came to help us figure out 361 00:15:20,211 --> 00:15:23,464 if the UAPs were coming from somewhere inside the bubble, 362 00:15:23,589 --> 00:15:25,383 like one of the electromagnetic zones. 363 00:15:25,508 --> 00:15:27,260 Wow, look at that. 364 00:15:27,426 --> 00:15:31,013 That resulted in us seeing a large, cigar-shaped UAP 365 00:15:31,180 --> 00:15:33,224 a few hundred feet high near the triangle 366 00:15:33,349 --> 00:15:35,893 that was invisible to the naked eye. 367 00:15:36,060 --> 00:15:37,937 And then, the very next day, 368 00:15:38,104 --> 00:15:40,106 while we continued with the Doppler experiment... 369 00:15:41,732 --> 00:15:43,943 [Travis] ...Cameron and Pete Kelsey saw something 370 00:15:44,068 --> 00:15:46,320 flying below the helicopter near Homestead Two 371 00:15:46,529 --> 00:15:48,114 that looked metallic. 372 00:15:49,115 --> 00:15:51,284 So, are these things coming from the bubble 373 00:15:51,492 --> 00:15:53,786 or from the homesteads or somewhere else? 374 00:15:53,953 --> 00:15:55,997 [Erik] But we've not only seen 375 00:15:56,164 --> 00:15:58,332 strange things in the sky from afar. 376 00:15:58,499 --> 00:16:01,460 We've also seen them appear to chase our equipment. 377 00:16:01,627 --> 00:16:03,254 [Brandon] Well, Cameron experienced 378 00:16:03,421 --> 00:16:04,589 the same thing following him. 379 00:16:04,755 --> 00:16:07,675 [Cameron] Yeah. We saw a UAP, uh, 380 00:16:07,842 --> 00:16:10,720 under the helicopter, so I'm deeply concerned 381 00:16:10,887 --> 00:16:12,847 with the airspace that I'm sharing. 382 00:16:13,014 --> 00:16:14,223 'Cause I think it could be very dangerous. 383 00:16:14,390 --> 00:16:15,975 Oh, absolutely. 384 00:16:16,142 --> 00:16:17,810 It's one thing to see a UAP 385 00:16:17,977 --> 00:16:20,479 on Skinwalker Ranch, but it's another thing 386 00:16:20,646 --> 00:16:23,149 to see them chase our equipment and especially our team. 387 00:16:23,316 --> 00:16:25,359 Pete's gonna fire up the laser now. 388 00:16:25,526 --> 00:16:27,945 [Travis] A couple of weeks ago, Cameron was flying 389 00:16:28,112 --> 00:16:30,198 several hundred feet above the triangle 390 00:16:30,364 --> 00:16:32,450 while Pete Kelsey shined a laser down, 391 00:16:32,617 --> 00:16:34,619 looking for a possible source 392 00:16:34,785 --> 00:16:36,454 for where these UAPs generate from. 393 00:16:36,621 --> 00:16:40,291 And then, suddenly, Dave Mason, Jim Royston and Brandon... 394 00:16:40,458 --> 00:16:41,876 -Look at that. -[Travis] ...all saw UAPs 395 00:16:42,043 --> 00:16:43,836 on a thermal camera that appeared to be 396 00:16:44,003 --> 00:16:45,421 stalking the helicopter. 397 00:16:45,588 --> 00:16:47,632 It just makes us all the more convinced 398 00:16:47,798 --> 00:16:49,842 that whatever these UAPs are, 399 00:16:50,051 --> 00:16:51,844 they seem to be possible craft 400 00:16:52,053 --> 00:16:55,139 that are being operated by an intelligence of some kind. 401 00:16:55,306 --> 00:16:58,100 There is something within the space 402 00:16:58,226 --> 00:17:01,145 above the ranch that is active, 403 00:17:01,312 --> 00:17:03,439 intelligent, appears to have volition. 404 00:17:03,606 --> 00:17:05,398 "Effectively" intelligent. 405 00:17:05,566 --> 00:17:07,443 -Yes, yep. -[Brandon] Dr. Puthoff, 406 00:17:07,652 --> 00:17:09,904 do you recall people telling stories, 407 00:17:10,070 --> 00:17:11,989 giving accounts of seeing craft 408 00:17:12,156 --> 00:17:14,575 during your investigation on the ranch? 409 00:17:14,742 --> 00:17:17,411 -Oh, yes. -What were some of those reports? 410 00:17:17,578 --> 00:17:20,498 Well, there were descriptions of... 411 00:17:21,499 --> 00:17:23,501 ...and a number of people looking at the same time, 412 00:17:23,667 --> 00:17:27,421 and they would often describe different shapes, 413 00:17:27,588 --> 00:17:29,674 which is really an anomaly... 414 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:31,801 -Yeah. -...you know, coming down, 415 00:17:32,009 --> 00:17:33,803 going into the mesa, coming out. 416 00:17:34,011 --> 00:17:36,681 -So, multiple witnesses. -[Hal] Multiple witnesses. 417 00:17:36,889 --> 00:17:40,017 -Wow. -[Jay] Yeah, one of those incidents was with Robert, 418 00:17:40,184 --> 00:17:42,895 with Colin, uh, me and another individual. 419 00:17:43,062 --> 00:17:46,440 We were all on the back deck of the command center 420 00:17:46,649 --> 00:17:48,067 and looking at that object 421 00:17:48,234 --> 00:17:50,069 that was at the, kind of the tip of the mesa. 422 00:17:50,236 --> 00:17:52,071 -Right, right. -And one of us said, 423 00:17:52,238 --> 00:17:54,991 "Oh, that's pretty cool, that it's a diamond shape." 424 00:17:55,157 --> 00:17:56,534 and the other one's like, "I-I don't see a diamond, 425 00:17:56,701 --> 00:17:57,952 I see a square." 426 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,037 You know, "I see a circle." 427 00:18:00,204 --> 00:18:02,665 So, we were all seeing different shapes. 428 00:18:02,790 --> 00:18:05,001 Yeah, that's exactly what was reported to us 429 00:18:05,209 --> 00:18:07,795 and, you know, we couldn't even begin to imagine 430 00:18:07,962 --> 00:18:09,797 -how that could be. -Absolutely. 431 00:18:09,964 --> 00:18:12,258 [Brandon] Very good. Well, 432 00:18:12,425 --> 00:18:15,553 as fascinating as this discussion has been so far, 433 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,097 we have a special guest joining us. 434 00:18:18,264 --> 00:18:21,267 Jay, you've helped facilitate this discussion. 435 00:18:21,434 --> 00:18:24,854 Right. I'll have him join us on video conference. 436 00:18:25,021 --> 00:18:27,064 [Brandon] This is exciting. 437 00:18:33,112 --> 00:18:35,573 [Brandon] As fascinating as this discussion has been so far, 438 00:18:35,740 --> 00:18:38,242 we have a special guest joining us. 439 00:18:38,409 --> 00:18:41,829 Congressman Tim Burchett, who is standing by. 440 00:18:41,954 --> 00:18:44,749 Yeah, I'm connected, and we'll bring him up. 441 00:18:44,915 --> 00:18:46,375 -All right. Awesome. -Great. 442 00:18:47,376 --> 00:18:48,711 [Jay] Congressman? 443 00:18:48,878 --> 00:18:50,212 Congressman, welcome. 444 00:18:50,379 --> 00:18:52,923 Well, thank y'all so much for having me on. 445 00:18:53,132 --> 00:18:55,259 [Brandon] Jay, you've helped facilitate 446 00:18:55,426 --> 00:18:57,094 this, uh, discussion with the Congressman. 447 00:18:57,261 --> 00:18:59,472 [Jay] Definitely. You know, over the last two decades, 448 00:18:59,639 --> 00:19:02,058 I've spent countless hours with Congress, 449 00:19:02,224 --> 00:19:04,685 briefing the UAP topic in an official capacity 450 00:19:04,894 --> 00:19:06,145 on behalf of the U.S. government. 451 00:19:06,270 --> 00:19:09,231 And Congressman Burchett, he is a key driver 452 00:19:09,398 --> 00:19:12,276 within Congress to help push much-needed transparency 453 00:19:12,443 --> 00:19:14,236 about everything going on with the phenomenon. 454 00:19:14,403 --> 00:19:17,114 I appreciate that very kind introduction. 455 00:19:17,281 --> 00:19:18,824 [Travis] In the past, 456 00:19:18,949 --> 00:19:21,619 we've been lucky to have members of the Utah state government 457 00:19:21,786 --> 00:19:23,579 take an interest in our investigation. 458 00:19:23,746 --> 00:19:26,499 But for U.S. Congressman Tim Burchett to meet with us 459 00:19:26,666 --> 00:19:28,501 is absolutely next-level. 460 00:19:28,668 --> 00:19:30,670 Based on what members of our military 461 00:19:30,836 --> 00:19:32,505 and other national security agencies 462 00:19:32,630 --> 00:19:34,507 have encountered in the skies, 463 00:19:34,632 --> 00:19:36,884 he's gone on record that he believes 464 00:19:37,093 --> 00:19:39,136 extraterrestrial life exists. 465 00:19:39,303 --> 00:19:41,764 He also thinks that our government 466 00:19:41,972 --> 00:19:44,308 knows a lot more about it than they've told the public, 467 00:19:44,475 --> 00:19:47,561 and that it all should be disclosed. 468 00:19:47,728 --> 00:19:49,689 [Brandon] Thank you, Congressman. 469 00:19:49,855 --> 00:19:51,148 I'm gonna turn the time 470 00:19:51,315 --> 00:19:54,276 to our principal investigator, Erik Bard. 471 00:19:54,443 --> 00:19:55,986 Yeah, one of the events that we want to show you 472 00:19:56,112 --> 00:19:59,990 is something we refer to as the in-and-out incident. 473 00:20:00,157 --> 00:20:01,701 Okay. 474 00:20:01,867 --> 00:20:04,537 I'll proceed with the video record frame by frame. 475 00:20:05,830 --> 00:20:09,083 -It's right here. -[Tim] Yep. Okay. 476 00:20:10,876 --> 00:20:12,586 Travis, would you like to describe to the Congressman 477 00:20:12,712 --> 00:20:14,797 -what we're seeing here? -Yeah, uh, Congressman, 478 00:20:14,964 --> 00:20:17,049 we were conducting an experiment, 479 00:20:17,216 --> 00:20:18,509 and the helicopter was probably 480 00:20:18,634 --> 00:20:20,344 a couple hundred feet in the air. 481 00:20:20,511 --> 00:20:23,305 What's happening here, Tim, is you see this bright object 482 00:20:23,431 --> 00:20:26,684 off to the east, a bluish-white orb, 483 00:20:26,892 --> 00:20:29,311 and it flies at a fairly high velocity 484 00:20:29,478 --> 00:20:32,773 directly into the solid-rock mesa. 485 00:20:33,733 --> 00:20:36,068 And so, we call that the "in point." 486 00:20:36,193 --> 00:20:37,611 Right. 487 00:20:39,196 --> 00:20:40,865 [Travis] And then we see it exits right there, 488 00:20:40,990 --> 00:20:42,867 just below the helicopter, 489 00:20:42,992 --> 00:20:44,493 flies underneath the helicopter 490 00:20:44,660 --> 00:20:46,537 and then literally just vanishes. 491 00:20:47,538 --> 00:20:49,373 I've been briefed in the past 492 00:20:49,540 --> 00:20:53,419 by a pilot who described something very similar to this. 493 00:20:53,586 --> 00:20:55,588 There's gonna be a scientific explanation to this. 494 00:20:55,755 --> 00:20:58,424 Maybe it's not within the realm of our understanding. 495 00:20:58,591 --> 00:21:00,551 And frankly, we just need to get to the bottom of it. 496 00:21:00,718 --> 00:21:02,011 [Travis] Yeah. 497 00:21:02,178 --> 00:21:03,846 It's wild to hear 498 00:21:04,054 --> 00:21:06,682 that this possible craft we documented on the ranch 499 00:21:06,849 --> 00:21:09,310 lines up with official accounts of strange encounters 500 00:21:09,477 --> 00:21:11,812 given by members of our own military. 501 00:21:11,979 --> 00:21:15,107 And it just goes to show how important Skinwalker Ranch is 502 00:21:15,232 --> 00:21:16,942 to understanding UAPs. 503 00:21:17,109 --> 00:21:20,821 We want the American people and the world to realize 504 00:21:20,988 --> 00:21:23,783 that these things are real phenomenon, 505 00:21:23,908 --> 00:21:25,868 that we don't know what they are 506 00:21:26,035 --> 00:21:28,746 and where they come from and what their intent is. 507 00:21:28,913 --> 00:21:30,456 [Tim] What I've said in the past is that 508 00:21:30,623 --> 00:21:32,458 I would prefer it to be from folks like you all 509 00:21:32,625 --> 00:21:34,543 in the scientific community, 510 00:21:34,710 --> 00:21:37,213 the funding would be there for them to research it 511 00:21:37,379 --> 00:21:40,132 and to, and to report to us on a regular basis. 512 00:21:40,299 --> 00:21:42,885 I think it would open some new thought processes 513 00:21:43,093 --> 00:21:45,387 -and maybe some new avenues. -Absolutely. 514 00:21:45,554 --> 00:21:47,014 [Erik] You know, we've talked about 515 00:21:47,181 --> 00:21:48,432 things coming into our airspace, 516 00:21:48,599 --> 00:21:50,309 but there's another aspect to this. 517 00:21:50,434 --> 00:21:53,604 We are seeing what looks like technological interference 518 00:21:53,813 --> 00:21:55,731 with all of our platforms. 519 00:21:55,898 --> 00:21:58,901 Notably, GPS, or "Global Positioning" technology. 520 00:21:59,068 --> 00:22:00,820 Yeah, all of our instrumentation, 521 00:22:00,986 --> 00:22:03,364 so we could tell where we're getting the data measured, 522 00:22:03,572 --> 00:22:05,908 has GPS trackers connected to it. 523 00:22:06,075 --> 00:22:07,743 Whether we're doing ground-penetrating radar 524 00:22:07,868 --> 00:22:09,370 to look underneath the surface, 525 00:22:09,537 --> 00:22:11,163 whether we're flying the helicopter 526 00:22:11,372 --> 00:22:12,706 with instruments on it, 527 00:22:12,832 --> 00:22:14,458 whether we're just walking around 528 00:22:14,625 --> 00:22:17,461 or driving around the property with instruments, 529 00:22:17,628 --> 00:22:20,297 we have GPS systems on them that are supposed to be 530 00:22:20,464 --> 00:22:21,924 centimeter-accurate, 531 00:22:22,132 --> 00:22:25,094 and when we start to collect some of the data 532 00:22:25,261 --> 00:22:26,595 that's of most interest, 533 00:22:26,762 --> 00:22:29,390 suddenly, the GPS will see 534 00:22:29,557 --> 00:22:31,517 that there are 31 satellites above 535 00:22:31,684 --> 00:22:33,102 but cannot get a GPS fix, 536 00:22:33,269 --> 00:22:35,020 and it can't tell us our location. 537 00:22:35,187 --> 00:22:39,191 So, there is clearly a technological interaction 538 00:22:39,358 --> 00:22:41,026 taking place. 539 00:22:41,151 --> 00:22:44,238 Whether it's humans doing it or something else doing it, 540 00:22:44,405 --> 00:22:47,283 I don't know, but that's scary when you think about 541 00:22:47,491 --> 00:22:51,453 how many things in our culture depend on GPS. 542 00:22:51,620 --> 00:22:54,039 And I think that's a national security issue. 543 00:22:54,206 --> 00:22:55,666 That's exactly right. 544 00:22:56,959 --> 00:23:01,672 Congressman, we have also encountered at Skinwalker Ranch 545 00:23:01,839 --> 00:23:07,011 a high frequency of covert military assets deployed 546 00:23:07,177 --> 00:23:09,597 simultaneous with much of our 547 00:23:09,763 --> 00:23:12,516 experimental research activities. 548 00:23:12,683 --> 00:23:17,271 Erik is going to show you what we have encountered. 549 00:23:18,272 --> 00:23:20,232 Here's an example. 550 00:23:20,399 --> 00:23:23,444 [Erik] For context, this video is from 2023. 551 00:23:23,652 --> 00:23:25,362 I'll go ahead and play this through. 552 00:23:26,989 --> 00:23:28,991 [Travis] Probably a hundred feet from the top of the mesa. 553 00:23:29,158 --> 00:23:31,410 That's clearly not a commercial aircraft. 554 00:23:31,577 --> 00:23:33,537 [Erik] Clearly not a high-altitude flight. 555 00:23:33,704 --> 00:23:35,164 -No. -[Travis] Right. And that was 556 00:23:35,372 --> 00:23:36,790 very close to the-the surface. 557 00:23:36,957 --> 00:23:39,418 -Yeah. -[Brandon] Low-altitude 558 00:23:39,585 --> 00:23:41,295 military assets, 559 00:23:41,462 --> 00:23:45,424 in nearly every case, non-transponding. 560 00:23:45,591 --> 00:23:47,760 In other words, cloaking their identity. 561 00:23:47,927 --> 00:23:50,512 -I don't think it's coincidental. -Right. 562 00:23:50,679 --> 00:23:52,806 [Cameron] Yeah. And I'd like to state, 563 00:23:53,015 --> 00:23:54,266 when you're flying over a civilian area, 564 00:23:54,391 --> 00:23:55,643 such as this area, 565 00:23:55,851 --> 00:23:57,811 you're not in r-restricted airspace, 566 00:23:57,978 --> 00:23:59,605 so you're supposed to, by law, 567 00:23:59,813 --> 00:24:02,608 have your transponders on, as a safety issue. 568 00:24:03,651 --> 00:24:05,486 So, we can't understand 569 00:24:05,694 --> 00:24:08,530 how they are justifying these continuous flyovers. 570 00:24:08,697 --> 00:24:10,074 [Tim] It just begs the question, 571 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,910 is it in coordination with the UAP activity, 572 00:24:13,077 --> 00:24:16,455 or are they researching that UAP activity? 573 00:24:16,622 --> 00:24:18,582 [Brandon] Yes, and we believe 574 00:24:18,749 --> 00:24:20,918 that that is just the tip of the iceberg 575 00:24:21,085 --> 00:24:22,920 relative to the high strangeness 576 00:24:23,087 --> 00:24:25,047 that is happening and being monitored 577 00:24:25,255 --> 00:24:27,049 by even our own government. 578 00:24:27,257 --> 00:24:29,093 [Tim] The longer I serve at the federal level, 579 00:24:29,259 --> 00:24:32,388 the more layers to this onion I see need to be peeled back, 580 00:24:32,513 --> 00:24:36,600 and I think y'all have opened up s-some questions that I have, 581 00:24:36,767 --> 00:24:40,270 and I'll be following up with the Pentagon about this. 582 00:24:40,437 --> 00:24:42,439 [Travis] To have Congressman Burchett say 583 00:24:42,606 --> 00:24:45,109 that he'll look into what we're finding at the ranch 584 00:24:45,234 --> 00:24:47,945 with officials at the Pentagon is huge. 585 00:24:48,070 --> 00:24:51,365 We need more allies within our government to help us. 586 00:24:51,573 --> 00:24:53,534 So, this could be a very important development 587 00:24:53,701 --> 00:24:55,202 for our investigation. 588 00:24:55,369 --> 00:24:57,830 We really appreciate your attention 589 00:24:57,997 --> 00:25:00,165 to these matters, Congressman. 590 00:25:00,374 --> 00:25:02,292 We'd like to invite you, at your convenience, 591 00:25:02,459 --> 00:25:04,294 to come out to Skinwalker Ranch 592 00:25:04,461 --> 00:25:07,923 to see firsthand what we are documenting. 593 00:25:08,090 --> 00:25:10,175 [Tim] I'd be honored to be out there. 594 00:25:10,342 --> 00:25:11,552 I would love to go out there and scratch 595 00:25:11,719 --> 00:25:13,345 a little of that dirt with y'all. 596 00:25:13,470 --> 00:25:15,681 Thank you, Congressman. We'll let you go. 597 00:25:15,848 --> 00:25:18,225 -[Travis] Thank you, sir. -Thank y'all very much. 598 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,146 Tim joining us was monumental, right? 599 00:25:22,271 --> 00:25:24,606 -I mean... -[Travis] I think it speaks volumes 600 00:25:24,815 --> 00:25:26,400 that he says he's been briefed on phenomena 601 00:25:26,567 --> 00:25:28,610 that looked a lot like some of the things we showed him. 602 00:25:28,777 --> 00:25:31,780 Uh, which-which is outside of our investigation. 603 00:25:31,947 --> 00:25:34,825 Yeah. I really hope it leads to answers 604 00:25:34,950 --> 00:25:37,870 about what the government might know about this place. 605 00:25:38,037 --> 00:25:39,663 Travis, you know, speaking of that, 606 00:25:39,830 --> 00:25:41,957 Pete Kelsey has alerted me about a discovery he made 607 00:25:42,124 --> 00:25:44,043 on top of the mesa that might shed some light. 608 00:25:44,251 --> 00:25:45,669 All right, awesome. 609 00:25:45,794 --> 00:25:46,920 I've actually connected with him, and I'd like 610 00:25:47,087 --> 00:25:49,214 -to bring him up now. -Please. 611 00:25:55,888 --> 00:25:58,724 Greetings, Pete Kelsey. Thank you for joining us. 612 00:25:58,932 --> 00:26:01,560 Hey, everyone. Good to see you. 613 00:26:01,727 --> 00:26:03,645 We're anxious to see what you have to present. 614 00:26:03,854 --> 00:26:06,231 All right, so, during our drilling operation 615 00:26:06,356 --> 00:26:08,776 this year on top of the mesa, 616 00:26:08,942 --> 00:26:11,361 one of the things that I did 617 00:26:11,528 --> 00:26:14,448 was conduct multiple surveys with lidar. 618 00:26:15,491 --> 00:26:19,203 Well, during the last one, I noticed something interesting 619 00:26:19,369 --> 00:26:21,455 -sticking out of the ground. -[Brandon] Wow. 620 00:26:21,622 --> 00:26:23,540 This is, uh, incredible. 621 00:26:23,707 --> 00:26:26,752 One mystery on the ranch that only got stronger this year 622 00:26:26,877 --> 00:26:29,713 is the huge, possibly metallic object 623 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,381 and several smaller anomalies 624 00:26:31,548 --> 00:26:34,051 that data suggest are buried in the mesa. 625 00:26:35,052 --> 00:26:37,554 We drilled four large-diameter boreholes 626 00:26:37,721 --> 00:26:39,556 that we thought would hit the main object 627 00:26:39,723 --> 00:26:43,185 based on previous ground-penetrating radar scans. 628 00:26:43,352 --> 00:26:44,603 [Thomas] We're far enough down that hole 629 00:26:44,770 --> 00:26:46,688 that we should have hit what we were looking for. 630 00:26:46,897 --> 00:26:48,941 [Travis] That just doesn't make any sense to me. 631 00:26:49,108 --> 00:26:51,026 But every single one of them missed it. 632 00:26:51,151 --> 00:26:53,529 That was really frustrating, 633 00:26:53,737 --> 00:26:56,532 especially since our smaller drilling operation last year 634 00:26:56,698 --> 00:26:58,158 recovered ceramic materials 635 00:26:58,325 --> 00:27:00,244 that might be related to spacecraft. 636 00:27:00,452 --> 00:27:02,955 So, we're beyond curious to see what Pete found 637 00:27:03,122 --> 00:27:04,957 on top of the mesa. 638 00:27:05,124 --> 00:27:06,875 [Pete] When I was out surveying 639 00:27:07,042 --> 00:27:09,044 on top of the mesa, 640 00:27:09,211 --> 00:27:12,881 I came across a permanent survey marker 641 00:27:13,048 --> 00:27:15,217 that had been left there many years ago. 642 00:27:15,384 --> 00:27:18,053 Here is that survey marker. 643 00:27:20,597 --> 00:27:26,144 This one is labeled "USB," 644 00:27:26,311 --> 00:27:28,313 as in "bravo." 645 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,149 So, I did a little digging, and it turns out 646 00:27:31,275 --> 00:27:33,610 that is an indicator 647 00:27:33,819 --> 00:27:36,822 for the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers. 648 00:27:36,989 --> 00:27:39,157 The Department of Defense. 649 00:27:40,158 --> 00:27:42,452 [Travis] How about that? 650 00:27:42,619 --> 00:27:46,081 And the key thing is-- I hope you guys can read the date. 651 00:27:46,248 --> 00:27:48,792 It's 1963. 652 00:27:48,959 --> 00:27:50,544 [Erik] Are you kidding me? 653 00:27:50,711 --> 00:27:53,881 [Pete] That's interesting, as it relates 654 00:27:54,047 --> 00:27:57,134 to the 1964 nickel 655 00:27:57,301 --> 00:28:00,220 that Chris pulled out of the tailings. 656 00:28:00,387 --> 00:28:02,180 [Brandon] That's crazy. 657 00:28:02,347 --> 00:28:03,557 Besides the ceramic material 658 00:28:03,724 --> 00:28:05,517 we pulled out of the mesa last year... 659 00:28:05,684 --> 00:28:07,603 [Chris] U.S. nickel. 660 00:28:07,769 --> 00:28:09,980 [Travis] ...we also found a 1964 nickel 661 00:28:10,147 --> 00:28:11,857 in our drilling spoils. 662 00:28:12,024 --> 00:28:14,109 At first, we just shrugged. 663 00:28:14,234 --> 00:28:16,653 But then archaeologist Chris Roberts informed us 664 00:28:16,820 --> 00:28:19,907 that it's general practice and protocol 665 00:28:20,073 --> 00:28:22,284 to conclude an official archaeological dig 666 00:28:22,451 --> 00:28:24,620 by leaving a coin in the backfill 667 00:28:24,786 --> 00:28:26,538 to serve as a time stamp. 668 00:28:26,705 --> 00:28:29,708 That gives us a period to look through records. 669 00:28:29,833 --> 00:28:32,461 That made Erik and me decide to look through aerial photos 670 00:28:32,628 --> 00:28:36,924 from government archives that were taken in the 1960s 671 00:28:37,132 --> 00:28:39,843 to look for any evidence of digging on the mesa. 672 00:28:40,010 --> 00:28:41,470 Guess what. 673 00:28:41,595 --> 00:28:46,266 The photos from 1964 through 1968 were missing. 674 00:28:46,433 --> 00:28:51,772 And when we compared one from 1963 to another from 1969, 675 00:28:51,939 --> 00:28:55,400 the 1969 photo looked doctored. 676 00:28:57,277 --> 00:28:59,446 [Pete] So, somebody was surveying 677 00:28:59,655 --> 00:29:01,448 in 1963 678 00:29:01,657 --> 00:29:03,784 at the top of the mesa, right at the northern boundary 679 00:29:03,951 --> 00:29:05,994 of Skinwalker Ranch. 680 00:29:06,161 --> 00:29:10,540 That means whoever placed this monument 681 00:29:10,707 --> 00:29:13,168 was only interested in what was south 682 00:29:13,377 --> 00:29:15,504 of the boundary line. 683 00:29:15,671 --> 00:29:17,506 I'm in a state of shock, because, uh, to have 684 00:29:17,673 --> 00:29:20,968 a survey marker right on top of the mesa 685 00:29:21,176 --> 00:29:24,346 within close proximity to where all of our drilling activity 686 00:29:24,513 --> 00:29:28,392 and some of the-the strangest anomalies have been occurring, 687 00:29:28,558 --> 00:29:33,271 and it's within that date range where... 688 00:29:33,438 --> 00:29:37,943 all aerial imagery of the ranch disappeared from the record. 689 00:29:38,110 --> 00:29:39,319 [Thomas] So, this is by the drill site? 690 00:29:39,486 --> 00:29:40,862 [Pete] Uh, yes. 691 00:29:41,029 --> 00:29:43,740 This is only about 100 meters north 692 00:29:43,907 --> 00:29:45,951 of the mesa drill site. 693 00:29:46,076 --> 00:29:47,452 Wow. 694 00:29:47,619 --> 00:29:49,287 Man, that-that's, that's a... 695 00:29:49,496 --> 00:29:51,581 that's certainly a smoking gun. 696 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,085 Could this survey marker be evidence 697 00:29:55,252 --> 00:29:57,045 connecting the U.S. Department of Defense 698 00:29:57,254 --> 00:29:59,006 to a possible excavation 699 00:29:59,214 --> 00:30:01,466 where we've detected these objects in the mesa? 700 00:30:01,633 --> 00:30:03,385 And if so, what did they find 701 00:30:03,552 --> 00:30:05,470 that made them go to such lengths 702 00:30:05,637 --> 00:30:07,389 to possibly cover it up? 703 00:30:07,514 --> 00:30:09,224 [Brandon] Thank you, Pete Kelsey. 704 00:30:09,391 --> 00:30:12,477 We appreciate all of your great work at Skinwalker Ranch. 705 00:30:12,644 --> 00:30:14,563 Thank you, Brandon. 706 00:30:14,730 --> 00:30:16,231 As we all know, 707 00:30:16,398 --> 00:30:19,192 studying what's going on inside the mesa 708 00:30:19,359 --> 00:30:21,069 is one of our main objectives, and Jan, 709 00:30:21,194 --> 00:30:23,905 I know you have some things to reveal to this group, 710 00:30:24,072 --> 00:30:25,907 -some form of data. -I do. 711 00:30:26,074 --> 00:30:27,951 [Travis] Another thing that makes us believe 712 00:30:28,076 --> 00:30:30,871 there could be something really incredible in the mesa 713 00:30:31,038 --> 00:30:33,582 is what Jan's GPR scans have shown this year. 714 00:30:33,749 --> 00:30:35,500 After he ran one set 715 00:30:35,667 --> 00:30:37,461 of new scans inside Borehole 1, 716 00:30:37,627 --> 00:30:39,838 which runs through the mesa to the east 717 00:30:40,005 --> 00:30:41,590 of the buried anomalies, 718 00:30:41,715 --> 00:30:44,634 something in the mesa warped his GPR signal, 719 00:30:44,801 --> 00:30:47,679 preventing him from getting any data at all. 720 00:30:47,846 --> 00:30:49,514 Like whatever's in there 721 00:30:49,681 --> 00:30:52,350 is operating on some kind of advanced technology. 722 00:30:52,476 --> 00:30:56,354 That made Jan redesign his device to encrypt his signal 723 00:30:56,521 --> 00:30:58,148 and shield it from interference. 724 00:30:58,273 --> 00:31:00,108 And after that scan in Borehole 1, 725 00:31:00,233 --> 00:31:03,320 the data confirmed the objects were right where we drilled. 726 00:31:03,487 --> 00:31:05,489 That makes it even more unbelievable 727 00:31:05,697 --> 00:31:09,409 that all our vertical boreholes this year missed the big object. 728 00:31:09,618 --> 00:31:11,244 [Thomas] We're ready. 729 00:31:11,411 --> 00:31:12,871 [Travis] So, last week, 730 00:31:13,038 --> 00:31:15,624 Jan returned to conduct one last round of scans 731 00:31:15,791 --> 00:31:18,376 from inside the first of our new vertical boreholes. 732 00:31:18,543 --> 00:31:19,878 It was drilled right in line 733 00:31:20,045 --> 00:31:21,797 with horizontal Borehole 2 734 00:31:21,963 --> 00:31:24,132 where we hit something incredibly hard 735 00:31:24,299 --> 00:31:27,969 about 33 feet down, which stopped the borehole. 736 00:31:28,178 --> 00:31:30,013 That's also where we found the ceramics. 737 00:31:30,180 --> 00:31:32,641 All we can hope now is that this new data 738 00:31:32,808 --> 00:31:35,352 will show us where we need to drill next 739 00:31:35,477 --> 00:31:38,605 to finally figure out just what in the heck is in there. 740 00:31:38,772 --> 00:31:42,275 [Jan] So, I want to show you some new data that we got. 741 00:31:42,442 --> 00:31:44,611 What's really interesting is when we look at 742 00:31:44,778 --> 00:31:46,822 the south wall on the borehole. 743 00:31:46,988 --> 00:31:51,159 What I want you to look at is this anomaly right here. 744 00:31:51,326 --> 00:31:54,913 That is absolutely characteristic of a void, 745 00:31:55,038 --> 00:31:57,374 which is what the end of a borehole would be. 746 00:31:57,541 --> 00:32:00,710 -[Travis] So, that's the end of Borehole 2? -[Jan] Yes. 747 00:32:00,877 --> 00:32:02,129 But here's the weird part. 748 00:32:02,337 --> 00:32:06,591 The depth is actually only at about 749 00:32:06,716 --> 00:32:08,927 18 to 20 feet. 750 00:32:09,136 --> 00:32:10,470 [Royston] Really? 751 00:32:10,595 --> 00:32:12,347 [Jan] Not 33 feet. 752 00:32:12,472 --> 00:32:15,058 -[Erik] Wow. -So, now explain that. 753 00:32:15,183 --> 00:32:17,060 Wow. 754 00:32:17,227 --> 00:32:18,478 [Travis] It suggests that, uh, 755 00:32:18,645 --> 00:32:20,480 we're looking in the wrong place. 756 00:32:20,647 --> 00:32:22,440 This is mind-boggling. 757 00:32:22,607 --> 00:32:25,902 Jan's new scans, taken from inside the vertical borehole, 758 00:32:26,069 --> 00:32:28,446 are showing that our drilling operation last year 759 00:32:28,655 --> 00:32:32,159 in Borehole 2 didn't stop 33 feet from the surface, 760 00:32:32,325 --> 00:32:36,746 but instead at a much shallower depth of around 20 feet. 761 00:32:36,913 --> 00:32:39,207 So, is Jan's new GPR device wrong 762 00:32:39,416 --> 00:32:41,918 or was the drilling beacon from last year interfered with? 763 00:32:42,085 --> 00:32:43,753 Because it showed that Borehole 2 764 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,881 stopped at 33 feet deep. 765 00:32:46,047 --> 00:32:48,175 Either way, it looks like whatever is 766 00:32:48,341 --> 00:32:51,261 inside the mesa messed with our instruments again. 767 00:32:51,428 --> 00:32:53,889 This has been a really vexing issue, 768 00:32:54,097 --> 00:32:56,141 trying to figure out where we are. 769 00:32:56,308 --> 00:32:57,893 We have something going on here that's like 770 00:32:58,059 --> 00:33:00,854 an active stealth application. 771 00:33:01,021 --> 00:33:03,231 You have stealth by design, 772 00:33:03,398 --> 00:33:05,400 you have stealth by application. 773 00:33:05,567 --> 00:33:07,194 You know, design is throwing off things 774 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,154 that interfere with the signal. 775 00:33:09,321 --> 00:33:13,200 [Travis] So, what or who designed whatever's in there? 776 00:33:18,830 --> 00:33:20,832 [Travis] So, what or who designed whatever's in there? 777 00:33:20,957 --> 00:33:24,002 It's exactly like a missile system 778 00:33:24,169 --> 00:33:27,464 that is a-a jammer for GPS. 779 00:33:27,631 --> 00:33:31,134 It basically sends signals out that causes 780 00:33:31,301 --> 00:33:34,137 any GPS systems to think they're somewhere else. 781 00:33:34,304 --> 00:33:35,722 And how many times do we see that 782 00:33:35,889 --> 00:33:37,557 -on Skinwalker Ranch? -[Jan] Yep. 783 00:33:37,724 --> 00:33:40,518 -Yep. -[Travis] Right? -[Brandon] Well, this could be 784 00:33:40,685 --> 00:33:44,940 part of why we're seeing covert military assets 785 00:33:45,106 --> 00:33:47,817 -deployed over Skinwalker Ranch. -Right. 786 00:33:47,984 --> 00:33:49,861 Whatever is in the mesa 787 00:33:50,028 --> 00:33:51,863 seems to have a similar capability 788 00:33:52,030 --> 00:33:53,615 as our own military defense systems 789 00:33:53,782 --> 00:33:55,992 that can jam enemy radar 790 00:33:56,117 --> 00:33:57,953 and do things like make our vehicles 791 00:33:58,078 --> 00:34:00,080 impossible to track or locate. 792 00:34:00,247 --> 00:34:03,166 So, after all the strange clues we've found 793 00:34:03,333 --> 00:34:05,168 around and in the mesa drill site, 794 00:34:05,377 --> 00:34:06,962 could that mean there's something connected 795 00:34:07,128 --> 00:34:09,255 to our military buried in there? 796 00:34:09,422 --> 00:34:11,841 Or is it something much stranger that our military 797 00:34:12,007 --> 00:34:15,428 and government have known about for decades? 798 00:34:15,594 --> 00:34:17,013 Dr. Puthoff, 799 00:34:17,179 --> 00:34:18,598 when you launched your investigation 800 00:34:18,764 --> 00:34:21,726 with Robert Bigelow decades ago, 801 00:34:21,893 --> 00:34:24,187 did you have any suspicion that there was 802 00:34:24,353 --> 00:34:26,063 something unusual in the mesa? 803 00:34:26,231 --> 00:34:28,525 No, this is, this is a new revelation. 804 00:34:28,692 --> 00:34:32,737 We-we didn't, uh, think of that option at the time. 805 00:34:32,904 --> 00:34:34,989 You didn't have the technology available at the time, right? 806 00:34:35,156 --> 00:34:36,992 -Exactly. -[Travis] This could be 807 00:34:37,117 --> 00:34:39,703 a conglomeration of some very complex piece 808 00:34:39,869 --> 00:34:43,039 of equipment that has been distributed, 809 00:34:43,206 --> 00:34:45,958 -maybe through a crash, there at the mesa. -Hmm. 810 00:34:46,126 --> 00:34:48,253 So, uh, until we either get more of it 811 00:34:48,460 --> 00:34:50,588 or some other test that we can do 812 00:34:50,755 --> 00:34:52,090 without d-damaging it, 813 00:34:52,299 --> 00:34:53,967 we have to be very cautious. 814 00:34:54,134 --> 00:34:55,635 [Erik] And then the obvious question is 815 00:34:55,802 --> 00:34:57,929 -how did it get there? -Right. 816 00:34:58,138 --> 00:34:59,806 [Erik] And how do we get better images 817 00:34:59,973 --> 00:35:01,433 or data from inside the mesa? 818 00:35:01,558 --> 00:35:03,810 -Yes. -Yeah, there's, uh, other technologies 819 00:35:04,019 --> 00:35:05,604 that we can bring to bear as well. 820 00:35:05,770 --> 00:35:08,732 I'm thinking of the, uh, work done by the Italian group 821 00:35:08,940 --> 00:35:11,067 led by Dr. Filippo Biondi 822 00:35:11,234 --> 00:35:14,529 that, uh, used satellite synthetic aperture radar 823 00:35:14,696 --> 00:35:17,073 to look at the ground underneath the pyramids 824 00:35:17,198 --> 00:35:18,450 there in Giza. 825 00:35:18,658 --> 00:35:20,035 The technology is really fascinating. 826 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,329 -Yeah. -Erik and I, 827 00:35:22,537 --> 00:35:24,039 -we've been talking to him. -[Erik] Yeah, I've connected 828 00:35:24,205 --> 00:35:26,499 with Dr. Biondi, and he is waiting for us now. 829 00:35:26,666 --> 00:35:28,627 -I'll bring him up. -Very good. 830 00:35:28,793 --> 00:35:31,004 Hello, Dr. Biondi. How are you? 831 00:35:31,171 --> 00:35:33,590 -Fine, thank you. And you? -Ah, doing great. 832 00:35:33,715 --> 00:35:35,634 [Travis] In March 2025, 833 00:35:35,759 --> 00:35:37,969 Dr. Filippo Biondi and his colleagues 834 00:35:38,178 --> 00:35:39,846 from the Khafre Project team 835 00:35:40,013 --> 00:35:42,098 reported the discovery of extensive 836 00:35:42,265 --> 00:35:43,767 pillar-like structures hidden beneath 837 00:35:43,933 --> 00:35:46,144 the Great Pyramid of Giza in Egypt. 838 00:35:46,311 --> 00:35:49,606 They discovered it using Dr. Biondi's cutting-edge method 839 00:35:49,773 --> 00:35:51,608 of analyzing satellite-based 840 00:35:51,775 --> 00:35:53,318 synthetic aperture radar imagery, 841 00:35:53,485 --> 00:35:55,528 also known as H-SAR. 842 00:35:55,737 --> 00:35:58,615 We're really interested in the technology. 843 00:35:58,782 --> 00:36:00,617 So, uh, tell us a little bit about how it works 844 00:36:00,784 --> 00:36:02,661 and what you would need to do that. 845 00:36:22,472 --> 00:36:23,973 Okay. 846 00:36:35,985 --> 00:36:38,154 [Travis] Just from everyday human activity 847 00:36:38,279 --> 00:36:40,115 and things in nature like weather, 848 00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:42,742 the surface of the Earth is constantly vibrating. 849 00:36:42,909 --> 00:36:46,079 When a satellite flies over taking radar data, 850 00:36:46,246 --> 00:36:48,957 those vibrations slightly alter the radar signal 851 00:36:49,124 --> 00:36:50,625 that bounces back up. 852 00:36:50,792 --> 00:36:52,377 Dr. Biondi's team has figured out 853 00:36:52,544 --> 00:36:54,713 how to use that information to scan for voids 854 00:36:54,879 --> 00:36:56,965 and structures deep underground. 855 00:36:57,132 --> 00:36:59,592 This is how they imaged all the possible structures 856 00:36:59,718 --> 00:37:01,553 under the Great Pyramid in Egypt. 857 00:37:01,678 --> 00:37:03,805 So, it would be incredibly interesting 858 00:37:03,972 --> 00:37:06,224 to see what it might show us in the mesa 859 00:37:06,391 --> 00:37:08,101 and below Skinwalker Ranch. 860 00:37:08,268 --> 00:37:11,271 What's the maximum depth you think you can see 861 00:37:11,396 --> 00:37:13,231 with this technology? 862 00:37:18,361 --> 00:37:21,281 -So, that's up to three miles deep. -Yes. 863 00:37:21,448 --> 00:37:23,366 [Travis] That sounds fascinating. 864 00:37:23,533 --> 00:37:25,452 You know, we've got objects, potentially, 865 00:37:25,660 --> 00:37:27,162 underneath the property here, 866 00:37:27,328 --> 00:37:29,247 -Yes. -and, uh, it would be great 867 00:37:29,414 --> 00:37:33,626 -if we got any kind of return to verify these things. -Yes. 868 00:37:33,793 --> 00:37:35,920 [Travis] We would really like to see 869 00:37:36,087 --> 00:37:38,256 that technology brought to bear here, 870 00:37:38,423 --> 00:37:41,593 uh, in Utah at Skinwalker Ranch. 871 00:37:45,930 --> 00:37:48,641 -Great. -[Travis] So, all you need, then, 872 00:37:48,808 --> 00:37:52,437 is for us to commission, uh, data from 873 00:37:52,604 --> 00:37:55,190 -a satellite that will pass over the ranch? -Yeah. 874 00:37:55,356 --> 00:37:57,400 -Yes. -Now, once you get the data, 875 00:37:57,567 --> 00:37:59,861 how long does it take you to do the analysis 876 00:38:00,028 --> 00:38:03,948 and all the-the number crunching to get, uh, the results? 877 00:38:14,959 --> 00:38:16,336 That sounds great. 878 00:38:16,503 --> 00:38:18,546 We're very excited to engage with you, 879 00:38:18,713 --> 00:38:20,924 and, uh, we really appreciate your, uh, 880 00:38:21,090 --> 00:38:22,842 your availability, Doctor. 881 00:38:23,009 --> 00:38:24,511 Thank you. 882 00:38:24,636 --> 00:38:26,513 Dr. Biondi, thank you very much. Uh, 883 00:38:26,638 --> 00:38:28,431 we're looking forward to, uh, 884 00:38:28,556 --> 00:38:31,142 getting moving on this and seeing some of the data results. 885 00:38:31,309 --> 00:38:32,852 [Brandon] We'll be in touch. 886 00:38:33,061 --> 00:38:34,103 -Thank you. -[Royston] It's nice meeting you. 887 00:38:34,270 --> 00:38:36,231 -Ciao. -Ciao. -Ciao. [chuckles] 888 00:38:36,356 --> 00:38:37,816 [Travis] That's awesome. 889 00:38:38,024 --> 00:38:39,609 [Erik] What could possibly be better? 890 00:38:43,738 --> 00:38:45,198 [Brandon] Wow, what an incredible year. 891 00:38:45,365 --> 00:38:48,159 As we look forward to the future 892 00:38:48,326 --> 00:38:50,578 and we close the chapter on this last year, 893 00:38:50,745 --> 00:38:53,706 I would love for us to set up 894 00:38:53,873 --> 00:38:57,627 the next phase of experiments and our work in the mesa. 895 00:38:57,794 --> 00:38:59,629 [Travis] Yeah, I think it's imperative 896 00:38:59,796 --> 00:39:03,174 that we-we continue to probe 897 00:39:03,383 --> 00:39:05,677 and experiment with the bubble boundary and the triangle. 898 00:39:05,802 --> 00:39:08,346 -[Erik] Mm-hmm. Yes. -Yep. 899 00:39:08,513 --> 00:39:11,307 And the possibility of the bubble connecting 900 00:39:11,474 --> 00:39:13,309 distant places on the ranch. 901 00:39:13,476 --> 00:39:16,062 We need to identify what we're dealing with 902 00:39:16,229 --> 00:39:18,022 -at these locations. -Yeah. 903 00:39:18,189 --> 00:39:19,858 [Travis] And we want to connect with others 904 00:39:20,024 --> 00:39:22,527 investigating similar types of UAPs 905 00:39:22,694 --> 00:39:25,071 -and push for more transparency. -Mm-hmm. Yeah. 906 00:39:25,238 --> 00:39:26,489 [Brandon] The exploration 907 00:39:26,656 --> 00:39:28,199 has been going on for many, many years, 908 00:39:28,366 --> 00:39:30,910 and I feel like we're making extraordinary progress. 909 00:39:31,077 --> 00:39:32,829 -Absolutely. -Dr. Puthoff, 910 00:39:32,996 --> 00:39:35,081 as the senior science advisor, 911 00:39:35,248 --> 00:39:39,669 and the one with the longest tenure at Skinwalker Ranch, 912 00:39:39,836 --> 00:39:43,965 do you have advice as we open this next chapter? 913 00:39:44,132 --> 00:39:46,759 Well, the thing that I have seen-- 914 00:39:46,926 --> 00:39:50,430 which has been the movement from where we were 915 00:39:50,597 --> 00:39:53,516 when we did investigate the ranch 916 00:39:53,641 --> 00:39:57,228 with, uh, Bigelow's, uh, assets and so on-- 917 00:39:57,395 --> 00:40:01,399 and then to see how you've brought in such a team of people 918 00:40:01,566 --> 00:40:03,985 and increased the kinds of equipment 919 00:40:04,152 --> 00:40:06,112 that you've, uh, brought to bear, 920 00:40:06,237 --> 00:40:08,907 I mean, I'm absolutely in-in awe 921 00:40:09,073 --> 00:40:12,327 of what you and your team have, uh, brought to this. 922 00:40:12,493 --> 00:40:15,830 So, uh, all I can do is say, you know, I-I... 923 00:40:15,997 --> 00:40:18,833 vote for you to continue, uh, doing what you're doing 924 00:40:18,958 --> 00:40:21,461 because you're actually making... making a difference. 925 00:40:21,628 --> 00:40:22,795 -Thank you. -[Travis] Awesome. 926 00:40:22,962 --> 00:40:24,505 Well, I love this team. 927 00:40:24,672 --> 00:40:27,508 We, uh, we've become like family over the years. 928 00:40:27,675 --> 00:40:31,721 I don't think anyone anticipated the journey that would unfold. 929 00:40:31,888 --> 00:40:35,475 And I think we're just finally getting 930 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,101 not only some real answers 931 00:40:37,268 --> 00:40:40,146 or, at least, being guided toward the answers, 932 00:40:40,313 --> 00:40:42,857 but, uh, we have the world watching. 933 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,235 I applaud everyone's efforts, 934 00:40:46,361 --> 00:40:49,072 and I-I challenge you to continue, 935 00:40:49,238 --> 00:40:53,284 uh, to map out the way forward to help us get the answers. 936 00:40:53,451 --> 00:40:55,036 -Absolutely. -All right. 937 00:40:55,203 --> 00:40:59,082 Congratulations on an incredible year at Skinwalker Ranch. 938 00:40:59,248 --> 00:41:01,459 -[Erik] Thank you, Brandon. -[Royston] Thank you. 939 00:41:04,712 --> 00:41:06,255 [Erik] I want to understand 940 00:41:06,464 --> 00:41:09,759 the nature and agenda of the phenomenon. 941 00:41:09,926 --> 00:41:13,054 I don't think any of us is content 942 00:41:13,262 --> 00:41:16,265 to let the mystery at the ranch remain a secret. 943 00:41:18,267 --> 00:41:21,354 [Brandon] What lies both above and beneath the property 944 00:41:21,479 --> 00:41:23,773 is a continued focus 945 00:41:23,982 --> 00:41:26,192 of our efforts as we map out 946 00:41:26,359 --> 00:41:30,154 the future of this most unique investigation. 947 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:32,907 [Travis] Our experiments this year 948 00:41:33,074 --> 00:41:35,118 pushed the boundaries and expanded on everything 949 00:41:35,284 --> 00:41:37,537 we thought we knew about Skinwalker Ranch. 950 00:41:37,745 --> 00:41:40,581 And I believe our work has never been more timely 951 00:41:40,748 --> 00:41:42,083 than it is right now. 952 00:41:43,042 --> 00:41:44,836 The mysteries we're investigating 953 00:41:44,961 --> 00:41:48,339 are the same ones being routinely discussed everywhere, 954 00:41:48,506 --> 00:41:50,675 from the general public to the most classified meetings 955 00:41:50,842 --> 00:41:52,301 of government officials. 956 00:41:53,386 --> 00:41:56,806 So, I think we owe it to ourselves and the whole world 957 00:41:56,973 --> 00:42:00,143 to keep on going until we find the answers.