1 00:00:03,587 --> 00:00:06,048 ‐TRAVIS: Hello? ‐THOMAS: Travis. 2 00:00:06,048 --> 00:00:08,175 ‐TRAVIS: Hey, Thomas. ‐Hey, I'm not sure 3 00:00:08,175 --> 00:00:10,093 where you're at on the property, 4 00:00:10,093 --> 00:00:12,554 but, uh, there's something going on out here. 5 00:00:12,554 --> 00:00:14,681 Come over here and check it out. 6 00:00:19,019 --> 00:00:21,021 (panting) 7 00:00:34,701 --> 00:00:36,537 Hey, y'all. I'd recommend not to touch it 8 00:00:36,537 --> 00:00:38,497 till we see if it's radioactive or not. 9 00:00:38,497 --> 00:00:40,249 Too late. 10 00:00:40,249 --> 00:00:42,709 THOMAS: Tom and I rolled it over just to see 11 00:00:42,709 --> 00:00:44,628 if we could see any animal markings on it. 12 00:00:44,628 --> 00:00:47,506 ‐No sign of trauma... ‐TRAVIS: What in the world? 13 00:00:47,506 --> 00:00:50,551 There's no cat tracks, there's no sign of struggle. 14 00:00:50,551 --> 00:00:52,219 ‐KANDUS: Middle of the day. ‐It's just dead. 15 00:00:53,595 --> 00:00:56,223 TRAVIS: It's hard to kill a cow. 16 00:00:56,223 --> 00:00:58,850 Check it with the Geiger counter, Dragon. 17 00:01:01,395 --> 00:01:05,023 TOM: I saw her this morning, but she was alive. 18 00:01:05,023 --> 00:01:07,276 That late morning? 19 00:01:07,276 --> 00:01:09,194 (Geiger counter whirring) 20 00:01:13,282 --> 00:01:15,492 TRAVIS: Lookit, the meter's just going crazy, man. 21 00:01:15,492 --> 00:01:17,411 Jumping high, then it jumps back to zero. 22 00:01:17,411 --> 00:01:20,998 13, 14, we're at 15‐‐ 16. 23 00:01:20,998 --> 00:01:22,332 ‐Is it still doing... ‐Lookit‐‐ hey, 24 00:01:22,332 --> 00:01:24,167 it's at, it's at five‐‐ it's 18. 25 00:01:24,167 --> 00:01:26,336 It just jumped to 18 just then. 26 00:01:26,336 --> 00:01:28,255 Jim, are you seeing anything on the spectrum analyzer? 27 00:01:28,255 --> 00:01:29,464 Actually, I am. 28 00:01:29,464 --> 00:01:32,092 You are? What are you seeing? 29 00:01:32,092 --> 00:01:34,970 Something down in the lower areas. 30 00:01:34,970 --> 00:01:37,347 So, I'm getting some pretty high spikes. 31 00:01:37,347 --> 00:01:40,517 ‐Some of the stuff like you saw yesterday. ‐See that? 32 00:01:40,517 --> 00:01:42,603 ‐What does this mean? ‐Well, uh, we don't know what it is, 33 00:01:42,603 --> 00:01:44,271 but we're seeing it with multiple instruments. 34 00:01:44,271 --> 00:01:46,481 ‐So this is something... ‐Something could be happening right now 35 00:01:46,481 --> 00:01:48,442 out of the ordinary. 36 00:01:48,442 --> 00:01:50,777 We need to get out of here, guys. 37 00:01:50,777 --> 00:01:54,031 THOMAS: Is there really a safe place on this ranch? 38 00:01:54,031 --> 00:01:55,782 We're quickly losing places 39 00:01:55,782 --> 00:01:58,618 that are safe to go on this ranch. 40 00:02:07,502 --> 00:02:08,837 RECEPTIONIST: Gentlemen, 41 00:02:08,837 --> 00:02:10,589 I'd like to introduce Travis Taylor. 42 00:02:10,589 --> 00:02:12,132 ‐I'll let Brandon know you're ready. ‐Thank you. 43 00:02:12,132 --> 00:02:13,467 ‐You're welcome. ‐Hey, Travis. Jim Morse. ‐Hey. 44 00:02:13,467 --> 00:02:15,719 TRAVIS: I'm Dr. Travis Taylor. 45 00:02:15,719 --> 00:02:17,846 I'm a scientist and a physicist, 46 00:02:17,846 --> 00:02:21,058 and I've got 25 years or more, uh, experience 47 00:02:21,058 --> 00:02:24,186 in the aerospace and defense industry working with NASA, 48 00:02:24,186 --> 00:02:26,605 the Department of Defense and the intelligence community. 49 00:02:26,605 --> 00:02:28,815 ‐Travis? ‐I have degrees in electrical engineering, 50 00:02:28,815 --> 00:02:30,442 aerospace engineering, astronomy, 51 00:02:30,442 --> 00:02:32,027 physics, optical sciences. 52 00:02:32,027 --> 00:02:35,072 And I was invited to come out here 53 00:02:35,072 --> 00:02:38,450 to work with this team to investigate this area 54 00:02:38,450 --> 00:02:40,869 known as Skinwalker Ranch. 55 00:02:40,869 --> 00:02:43,372 ‐Where'd you fly in from? ‐From Huntsville, Alabama. 56 00:02:43,372 --> 00:02:44,873 ‐All right. ‐Yeah, it's where 57 00:02:44,873 --> 00:02:47,000 the rockets that went to the Moon were built. 58 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,837 ‐Hi, Travis. ‐Hey, Brandon. How you doing? 59 00:02:50,837 --> 00:02:52,673 ‐Brandon Fugal. I'm... ‐Yeah, nice to meet you. 60 00:02:52,673 --> 00:02:54,549 ...the new owner of Skinwalker Ranch. 61 00:02:54,549 --> 00:02:56,677 I see you've been able to get acquainted 62 00:02:56,677 --> 00:02:58,762 ‐with our team. ‐Yeah. 63 00:02:58,762 --> 00:03:02,182 BRANDON: Erik Bard is our principal investigator. 64 00:03:02,182 --> 00:03:04,935 Dr. Segala has been the scientist. 65 00:03:04,935 --> 00:03:08,730 Tom Winterton, our ranch superintendent. 66 00:03:08,730 --> 00:03:11,733 Jim Morse is our ranch manager 67 00:03:11,733 --> 00:03:13,860 and Bryant Arnold, otherwise known as "Dragon," 68 00:03:13,860 --> 00:03:15,737 head of security. 69 00:03:15,737 --> 00:03:17,698 Thank you for coming together. 70 00:03:17,698 --> 00:03:20,909 This is the most unique science project of its kind 71 00:03:20,909 --> 00:03:23,704 because we've verified and documented 72 00:03:23,704 --> 00:03:26,164 that some of the most disturbing, unexplained events 73 00:03:26,164 --> 00:03:30,127 in the past decades, if not hundreds of years, 74 00:03:30,127 --> 00:03:32,003 have occurred on this property. 75 00:03:32,003 --> 00:03:34,423 That sounds exciting and a litt‐‐ 76 00:03:34,423 --> 00:03:37,217 ‐maybe even a little bit scary, right? ‐Right. 77 00:03:37,217 --> 00:03:39,928 BRANDON: I'm Brandon Fugal, chairman and owner 78 00:03:39,928 --> 00:03:43,056 of the largest commercial real estate enterprise here in Utah. 79 00:03:43,056 --> 00:03:45,684 I'm also an investor and cofounder 80 00:03:45,684 --> 00:03:48,728 of other enterprises involving technology. 81 00:03:48,728 --> 00:03:50,730 I grew up middle class, 82 00:03:50,730 --> 00:03:53,942 with a very strong religious upbringing. 83 00:03:53,942 --> 00:03:59,364 And that upbringing has only helped strengthen my belief 84 00:03:59,364 --> 00:04:02,492 that there is more to our existence than meets the eye. 85 00:04:02,492 --> 00:04:06,997 And I am still looking for the nature of the universe 86 00:04:06,997 --> 00:04:09,749 and asking some of these core questions: 87 00:04:09,749 --> 00:04:12,669 Where did we come from? Why are we here? 88 00:04:12,669 --> 00:04:14,713 Where are we going? 89 00:04:14,713 --> 00:04:18,133 I truly believe that Skinwalker Ranch is a place 90 00:04:18,133 --> 00:04:20,677 where some of the these questions may be answered, 91 00:04:20,677 --> 00:04:23,930 or at least better understood. 92 00:04:25,682 --> 00:04:29,936 So this shows, from an aerial view, the ranch. 93 00:04:29,936 --> 00:04:35,567 Our 512 acres lies in the center of the Uinta Basin. 94 00:04:35,567 --> 00:04:37,360 TRAVIS: The Uinta Basin. 95 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,613 I mean‐‐ is that, like, one of the Indian tribes or something? 96 00:04:39,613 --> 00:04:41,948 ‐The Uintah tribe? ‐Yes. And it is named 97 00:04:41,948 --> 00:04:44,868 ‐after the Ute tribe. ‐Okay. 98 00:04:44,868 --> 00:04:46,328 And the entire property is surrounded 99 00:04:46,328 --> 00:04:48,789 by, uh, Ute tribal properties. 100 00:04:48,789 --> 00:04:51,208 Well, so, one question I have is why 101 00:04:51,208 --> 00:04:53,668 is it called Skinwalker Ranch? 102 00:04:53,668 --> 00:04:55,670 What is the‐the lore of it, right? 103 00:04:55,670 --> 00:04:57,714 Well, it's a phenomenon, is what it is. 104 00:04:57,714 --> 00:05:00,008 ‐It goes back hundreds of years. ‐BRANDON: Native Americans 105 00:05:00,008 --> 00:05:05,430 talk of shape‐shifting demonic entities called skinwalkers 106 00:05:05,430 --> 00:05:10,060 that take on the form of a, of a large werewolf‐like creature 107 00:05:10,060 --> 00:05:14,481 ‐and also a number of other shapes. ‐Wow. 108 00:05:14,481 --> 00:05:17,651 BRANDON: The Native American people, for generations, referred 109 00:05:17,651 --> 00:05:20,237 to this property as being in the path of the skinwalker. 110 00:05:20,237 --> 00:05:22,239 And they called the mesa 111 00:05:22,239 --> 00:05:25,659 that runs the expanse of this property Skinwalker Ridge. 112 00:05:25,659 --> 00:05:29,538 So that's really the namesake of the property. 113 00:05:29,538 --> 00:05:31,122 I see, I see. 114 00:05:33,500 --> 00:05:35,502 As early as 1911, 115 00:05:35,502 --> 00:05:40,340 newspaper reports profiled strange noises in the basin 116 00:05:40,340 --> 00:05:46,054 and the homesteaders started seeing unexplained phenomena. 117 00:05:46,054 --> 00:05:49,015 And by 1979, 118 00:05:49,015 --> 00:05:50,892 there were a lot of UFO sightings 119 00:05:50,892 --> 00:05:53,854 in the basin being documented. 120 00:05:53,854 --> 00:05:57,232 People had really acute medical episodes. 121 00:05:57,232 --> 00:05:59,359 Everything from incidents of nausea, 122 00:05:59,359 --> 00:06:03,071 perception‐altering experiences, 123 00:06:03,071 --> 00:06:04,865 vertigo, temporary paralysis. 124 00:06:04,865 --> 00:06:09,202 And then the Sherman family, in 1992, 125 00:06:09,202 --> 00:06:11,621 acquired the property and were witness 126 00:06:11,621 --> 00:06:14,958 to some of the most disturbing events on record. 127 00:06:14,958 --> 00:06:17,377 Cattle mutilations. 128 00:06:17,377 --> 00:06:20,547 These were daylight cattle mutilations. 129 00:06:20,547 --> 00:06:26,052 We're talking very surgically precise dissections 130 00:06:26,052 --> 00:06:27,554 of these cattle. 131 00:06:27,554 --> 00:06:30,265 They were drained of their blood. 132 00:06:30,265 --> 00:06:34,060 And there was no blood to be found underneath them. 133 00:06:34,060 --> 00:06:39,441 As much as 25% of the herd at that time were lost. 134 00:06:39,441 --> 00:06:40,483 Wow. 135 00:06:41,735 --> 00:06:44,070 BRANDON: In 1996, 136 00:06:44,070 --> 00:06:46,072 the reports of the Sherman family 137 00:06:46,072 --> 00:06:50,327 led billionaire Robert Bigelow to acquire the property 138 00:06:50,327 --> 00:06:54,831 and to commence an unprecedented scientific study. 139 00:06:54,831 --> 00:06:58,251 Bigelow came in with his team, 140 00:06:58,251 --> 00:07:01,755 National Institute of Discovery Science, or NIDS, 141 00:07:01,755 --> 00:07:03,298 that transitioned 142 00:07:03,298 --> 00:07:05,675 to Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies, 143 00:07:05,675 --> 00:07:08,470 which was funded by the U. S. government 144 00:07:08,470 --> 00:07:10,930 and kept highly confidential. 145 00:07:10,930 --> 00:07:12,599 It was a very aggressive effort. 146 00:07:12,599 --> 00:07:14,309 And as part of that, 147 00:07:14,309 --> 00:07:18,271 it was staffed at one time by dozens of professionals. 148 00:07:18,271 --> 00:07:20,774 Many of those professionals to this day 149 00:07:20,774 --> 00:07:24,944 refuse to ever set foot on this ranch ever again 150 00:07:24,944 --> 00:07:26,946 for the rest of their lives. 151 00:07:26,946 --> 00:07:28,198 ‐Really? ‐Literally. 152 00:07:28,198 --> 00:07:30,116 ‐That's right. ‐Wow. 153 00:07:32,118 --> 00:07:34,788 BRANDON: That brings us to present day. 154 00:07:34,788 --> 00:07:38,249 In 2016, I purchased Skinwalker Ranch 155 00:07:38,249 --> 00:07:41,086 and assembled our team to carry this investigation 156 00:07:41,086 --> 00:07:43,338 forward into the next level. 157 00:07:43,338 --> 00:07:46,341 ‐And what is that? ‐We've started deploying technology 158 00:07:46,341 --> 00:07:49,844 devised by Erik Bard, our principal investigator, 159 00:07:49,844 --> 00:07:51,846 related to monitoring 160 00:07:51,846 --> 00:07:53,723 and recording the events happening on the ranch. 161 00:07:53,723 --> 00:07:56,226 Right, that makes sense. 162 00:07:56,226 --> 00:07:58,353 One of the first things that we captured: 163 00:07:58,353 --> 00:08:01,981 a 500‐foot section 164 00:08:01,981 --> 00:08:06,319 of the mesa became totally illuminated. 165 00:08:06,319 --> 00:08:08,363 That's‐that's wild. 166 00:08:08,363 --> 00:08:12,242 We have seen several instances of compact light pillars, 167 00:08:12,242 --> 00:08:15,995 these columns of light that have appeared above the mesa. 168 00:08:15,995 --> 00:08:18,248 TRAVIS: I'm looking at this picture, and I believe 169 00:08:18,248 --> 00:08:21,876 I'm seeing scatter off of the lower cloud cover, 170 00:08:21,876 --> 00:08:24,546 which implies that it's going upward. 171 00:08:24,546 --> 00:08:27,006 And there's no used car lot on the other side, 172 00:08:27,006 --> 00:08:28,508 where they're having a spotlight 173 00:08:28,508 --> 00:08:30,802 ‐shining up? ‐Nope. 174 00:08:30,802 --> 00:08:32,595 ‐That's interesting. ‐There is also 175 00:08:32,595 --> 00:08:33,930 a bright luminous object 176 00:08:33,930 --> 00:08:35,640 that came into view in the western sky 177 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,892 and disappeared behind the mesa. 178 00:08:37,892 --> 00:08:39,602 And it travelled at a speed 179 00:08:39,602 --> 00:08:42,230 that was not consistent with typical aircraft. 180 00:08:42,230 --> 00:08:44,149 Plus, at that time, 181 00:08:44,149 --> 00:08:46,151 there was no historical flight data 182 00:08:46,151 --> 00:08:49,529 showing commercial or private air traffic. 183 00:08:49,529 --> 00:08:50,905 That's intriguing. 184 00:08:50,905 --> 00:08:52,699 Indeed. 185 00:08:52,699 --> 00:08:55,702 I‐I really am curious as to why exactly am I here? 186 00:08:55,702 --> 00:08:57,662 What is it I'm supposed to be figuring out? 187 00:08:57,662 --> 00:09:00,665 Right. I think, you, as an experimentalist, 188 00:09:00,665 --> 00:09:02,625 you would bring to the table a lot more 189 00:09:02,625 --> 00:09:05,336 stringent protocols than what's here now. 190 00:09:05,336 --> 00:09:08,465 ‐Okay. ‐We want your perspective. 191 00:09:08,465 --> 00:09:10,050 THOMAS: We've noticed that when we bring new people 192 00:09:10,050 --> 00:09:11,718 onto the ranch, 193 00:09:11,718 --> 00:09:14,137 the ranch behaves differently than it normally does. 194 00:09:14,137 --> 00:09:16,848 It's just a place, right? I mean, and... 195 00:09:16,848 --> 00:09:19,559 And you guys think that it's going 196 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:23,063 to behave when I show up there, right? 197 00:09:23,063 --> 00:09:25,356 Where there's smoke, there's fire, and there's things 198 00:09:25,356 --> 00:09:28,777 that go on that ranch that I cannot get my head around. 199 00:09:28,777 --> 00:09:30,779 That ranch can push back. 200 00:09:30,779 --> 00:09:32,322 BRANDON: We'd like to fly you out 201 00:09:32,322 --> 00:09:34,157 to the property tomorrow. 202 00:09:34,157 --> 00:09:36,076 My brother will be escorting you, 203 00:09:36,076 --> 00:09:38,411 so you can see the ranch firsthand. 204 00:09:38,411 --> 00:09:39,954 I'm not sure what we're gonna find, 205 00:09:39,954 --> 00:09:41,748 but I can't wait to see what we're gonna find. 206 00:09:41,748 --> 00:09:42,832 Great. 207 00:09:42,832 --> 00:09:45,376 (horn honking) 208 00:09:46,586 --> 00:09:48,713 BRANDON: So, Travis, 209 00:09:48,713 --> 00:09:51,382 tell me honestly, do‐do you think I'm crazy? 210 00:09:51,382 --> 00:09:53,676 (laughs) Well, 211 00:09:53,676 --> 00:09:55,303 I think some of the stories are crazy, 212 00:09:55,303 --> 00:09:58,098 but just because the stories sound crazy 213 00:09:58,098 --> 00:10:00,683 doesn't mean that there's not something to it. 214 00:10:00,683 --> 00:10:02,560 So, no, I don't think you're crazy, Brandon. 215 00:10:02,560 --> 00:10:05,105 I think it's intriguing, is what I can say. 216 00:10:05,105 --> 00:10:06,439 There has to be something more to it. 217 00:10:06,439 --> 00:10:09,109 Yep. Are we truly alone in the universe? 218 00:10:21,454 --> 00:10:22,956 Welcome to Aero Dynamic. 219 00:10:22,956 --> 00:10:24,874 ‐So this is the hangar? ‐Yep. 220 00:10:24,874 --> 00:10:26,876 ‐CAMERON: Hey, Brandon. ‐These are my brothers. 221 00:10:26,876 --> 00:10:28,545 ‐How are you? ‐This is my brother Cameron. 222 00:10:28,545 --> 00:10:30,130 ‐Travis Taylor. Yeah. ‐Good to meet you, Travis. 223 00:10:30,130 --> 00:10:31,714 ‐My brother Matt. ‐Nice to meet you too, man. 224 00:10:31,714 --> 00:10:33,466 Nice to meet you. 225 00:10:33,466 --> 00:10:34,676 So we're going to be in this helicopter today? 226 00:10:34,676 --> 00:10:36,136 Yep, this is the Airbus H130. 227 00:10:36,136 --> 00:10:37,971 ‐TRAVIS: H130, Okay. ‐We'll be flying 228 00:10:37,971 --> 00:10:40,390 ‐at 10,000 feet. ‐Aw, that sounds awesome. 229 00:10:40,390 --> 00:10:43,935 Safe flight, uh, and good luck at Skinwalker Ranch. 230 00:10:48,982 --> 00:10:50,817 Go with engine startup. 231 00:10:55,155 --> 00:10:56,990 All systems are check. 232 00:10:56,990 --> 00:10:58,449 We'll proceed on our way. 233 00:11:01,828 --> 00:11:03,705 You probably want to get down there 234 00:11:03,705 --> 00:11:06,040 ‐and get boots on the ground, don't you? ‐Yep, I do. Absolutely. 235 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:07,458 I want to get down and start walking. 236 00:11:07,458 --> 00:11:08,668 I want to cover every inch of the place. 237 00:11:11,254 --> 00:11:12,672 What do you think about the ranch? 238 00:11:12,672 --> 00:11:15,133 ‐Those are some strange stories. ‐Oh, yeah. 239 00:11:15,133 --> 00:11:16,342 What do you think about all that? 240 00:11:16,342 --> 00:11:17,677 Well, it's interesting. 241 00:11:17,677 --> 00:11:19,512 I originally went from believing 242 00:11:19,512 --> 00:11:21,222 that it was just kind of all foo‐foo 243 00:11:21,222 --> 00:11:24,601 to thinking there might be something, uh, to this, based on 244 00:11:24,601 --> 00:11:26,311 what I've experienced personally. 245 00:11:26,311 --> 00:11:28,730 Stuff has happened. There's times where I've felt 246 00:11:28,730 --> 00:11:30,398 I don't really want to be there. 247 00:11:30,398 --> 00:11:32,525 Not knowing what's, what's causing some of the anomalies 248 00:11:32,525 --> 00:11:34,110 that are out there. 249 00:11:34,110 --> 00:11:36,738 My main concern is just to make sure that we're safe 250 00:11:36,738 --> 00:11:38,406 going in and out of the property. 251 00:11:38,406 --> 00:11:41,117 ‐Oh, I agree with that. ‐Especially in aviation, 252 00:11:41,117 --> 00:11:43,494 you do the best you can 253 00:11:43,494 --> 00:11:46,039 ‐to minimize any danger or risks. ‐Yeah. 254 00:11:46,039 --> 00:11:47,624 You do your preflight checks, 255 00:11:47,624 --> 00:11:49,209 you make sure the maintenance is right; 256 00:11:49,209 --> 00:11:51,211 but even then, there's still some things 257 00:11:51,211 --> 00:11:52,962 that you don't have control over. 258 00:11:52,962 --> 00:11:55,256 And so for every flight I go on, 259 00:11:55,256 --> 00:11:57,842 I always say a little prayer, just try to keep it simple. 260 00:11:57,842 --> 00:12:00,970 ‐Okay. ‐And so I'd love to do that if you are open to that. 261 00:12:00,970 --> 00:12:02,555 ‐Absolutely, sure. ‐All right. 262 00:12:02,555 --> 00:12:04,557 Heavenly Father, we're grateful 263 00:12:04,557 --> 00:12:06,768 for this opportunity to fly today, 264 00:12:06,768 --> 00:12:10,146 and to do some exploring and‐and research, 265 00:12:10,146 --> 00:12:11,564 and explore the sciences. 266 00:12:11,564 --> 00:12:12,941 We ask for safety today. 267 00:12:12,941 --> 00:12:15,318 Protect us as we come into this ranch. 268 00:12:15,318 --> 00:12:18,905 And we say these things in the name of Jesus Christ, amen. 269 00:12:18,905 --> 00:12:20,365 Amen. 270 00:12:26,079 --> 00:12:28,623 CAMERON: We're approaching the ranch. 271 00:12:30,416 --> 00:12:33,086 We're going to go low level down over the entrance 272 00:12:33,086 --> 00:12:35,838 to show you the guard shack. 273 00:12:35,838 --> 00:12:38,299 All systems are check, we're descending 274 00:12:38,299 --> 00:12:40,635 down onto the property now. 275 00:12:42,262 --> 00:12:45,306 Below you'll see the gate, the concrete barriers, 276 00:12:45,306 --> 00:12:47,350 ‐and the signage. ‐Right. Yeah, I see that. 277 00:12:47,350 --> 00:12:50,270 And then the guard shack. 278 00:12:50,270 --> 00:12:52,605 TRAVIS: As Cameron flew me into Skinwalker Ranch, 279 00:12:52,605 --> 00:12:53,773 my first impression is 280 00:12:53,773 --> 00:12:54,941 it's in the middle of nowhere. 281 00:12:54,941 --> 00:12:58,820 It's not anything unusual to look at 282 00:12:58,820 --> 00:13:00,655 from any of the other land around it; 283 00:13:00,655 --> 00:13:03,116 it's the things that are supposedly happening here 284 00:13:03,116 --> 00:13:04,867 that makes it unusual. 285 00:13:06,619 --> 00:13:08,288 Now, where is it where the mountain 286 00:13:08,288 --> 00:13:10,498 is glowing in the video 287 00:13:10,498 --> 00:13:12,375 ‐that they showed me? ‐So I'll show you the ridge. 288 00:13:12,375 --> 00:13:14,127 Skinwalker Ridge. 289 00:13:14,127 --> 00:13:16,713 It's over in this area that I don't typically fly over 290 00:13:16,713 --> 00:13:19,465 based on reports they had of light originating in the area. 291 00:13:19,465 --> 00:13:21,259 So we'll kind of skirt around this. 292 00:13:21,259 --> 00:13:25,305 So, right there at your one o'clock, the mesa plateau. 293 00:13:27,307 --> 00:13:29,767 ‐And it's this, this ridge here that's glowing? ‐Yeah. 294 00:13:29,767 --> 00:13:31,436 ‐Yep. ‐Huh. 295 00:13:31,436 --> 00:13:33,146 CAMERON: It's where they detected it on the cameras. 296 00:13:33,146 --> 00:13:35,648 ‐TRAVIS: Wow. ‐The scientists have cautioned me to‐‐ 297 00:13:35,648 --> 00:13:37,150 to be careful here, 298 00:13:37,150 --> 00:13:39,444 uh, due to the potential for any energy 299 00:13:39,444 --> 00:13:41,654 or any other disruption of the helicopter. I stay away. 300 00:13:41,654 --> 00:13:44,157 I just, I felt uneasy flying over that 301 00:13:44,157 --> 00:13:45,324 with what I saw in the video. 302 00:13:45,324 --> 00:13:46,784 ‐Really? ‐Just to make sure. 303 00:13:46,784 --> 00:13:48,494 TRAVIS: Well, you know, 304 00:13:48,494 --> 00:13:50,121 if it's some kind of electromagnetic phenomena, 305 00:13:50,121 --> 00:13:51,998 ‐it could affect the avionics, right? ‐Yeah. Yeah. 306 00:13:51,998 --> 00:13:53,708 TRAVIS: Make it unsafe. So, I can understand that. 307 00:13:53,708 --> 00:13:55,668 ‐CAMERON: My primary goal is safety. ‐TRAVIS: Oh, yeah. 308 00:13:57,628 --> 00:13:59,839 CAMERON: So there's Homestead 1 here. 309 00:13:59,839 --> 00:14:02,842 This is the primary homestead down below in the trees. 310 00:14:05,136 --> 00:14:07,180 Then along the ridge, there's Homestead 2... 311 00:14:09,557 --> 00:14:12,935 ...and then, uh, Homestead 3 will be down 312 00:14:12,935 --> 00:14:16,189 ‐on the western side of the property there. ‐Okay. 313 00:14:16,189 --> 00:14:18,858 A lot of the activity, for whatever reason, 314 00:14:18,858 --> 00:14:21,319 seems to be centered around the old homesteads. 315 00:14:21,319 --> 00:14:24,864 These over‐100‐year‐old structures. 316 00:14:24,864 --> 00:14:28,451 And that activity is not only UFO‐related, 317 00:14:28,451 --> 00:14:32,330 it involves the full gamut of unexplained phenomena 318 00:14:32,330 --> 00:14:34,165 that we continue to monitor. 319 00:14:35,541 --> 00:14:37,460 Really intriguing. 320 00:14:39,045 --> 00:14:40,880 I hope not to leave here more perplexed 321 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:42,423 than when I came in, right? 322 00:14:42,423 --> 00:14:44,258 ‐(both chuckling) ‐That's right. 323 00:14:46,219 --> 00:14:48,346 TRAVIS: One of the things that excites me the most 324 00:14:48,346 --> 00:14:51,057 about this ranch, and, uh, the investigation team, 325 00:14:51,057 --> 00:14:55,228 and doing this, uh, research, is... what if? 326 00:14:55,228 --> 00:14:56,437 That's the big thing. 327 00:14:56,437 --> 00:14:58,356 What if some of it's real? 328 00:14:58,356 --> 00:14:59,982 What if this really is an answer 329 00:14:59,982 --> 00:15:03,236 to one of the big questions that Brandon had? 330 00:15:03,236 --> 00:15:05,655 Maybe we'll get some insight. 331 00:15:07,156 --> 00:15:09,367 ‐TRAVIS: Hey, guys. ‐TEAM: Hey, Travis. 332 00:15:09,367 --> 00:15:12,411 ‐THOMAS: You made it. ‐Yeah. It was a great flight coming in. 333 00:15:12,411 --> 00:15:13,788 ‐It was beautiful. ‐JIM: Good to see you. Welcome. 334 00:15:13,788 --> 00:15:14,914 ‐TRAVIS: How you doing? ‐Nice to have you. 335 00:15:14,914 --> 00:15:15,873 TRAVIS: Yeah, it's good to see you guys. 336 00:15:15,873 --> 00:15:17,041 Welcome to Skinwalker. 337 00:15:17,041 --> 00:15:18,417 Yeah, thanks, man. Glad to be here. 338 00:15:18,417 --> 00:15:19,418 ‐What's going on, Dragon? ‐Hey, Trav. 339 00:15:19,418 --> 00:15:21,254 How you doing, buddy? 340 00:15:21,254 --> 00:15:23,005 ‐Let me introduce you to Kaleb here. ‐Hey, Kaleb. How you doing? 341 00:15:23,005 --> 00:15:25,424 This is my right‐hand man. 342 00:15:25,424 --> 00:15:26,926 We'll be taking good care of you while you're here. 343 00:15:26,926 --> 00:15:29,387 BRYANT: My name is Bryant Arnold. 344 00:15:29,387 --> 00:15:32,431 And my main role is the head of security here. 345 00:15:32,431 --> 00:15:35,601 The reason that we take security so seriously is 346 00:15:35,601 --> 00:15:37,854 we need to protect the scientific integrity of things 347 00:15:37,854 --> 00:15:41,399 going on, and protect the people that live here. 348 00:15:41,399 --> 00:15:44,110 Skinwalker Ranch piques people's interest, 349 00:15:44,110 --> 00:15:45,778 and so with that we get a lot of people 350 00:15:45,778 --> 00:15:48,364 that try to sneak onto the property. 351 00:15:48,364 --> 00:15:50,950 We carry weapons because 352 00:15:50,950 --> 00:15:52,785 we don't know what we're dealing with, 353 00:15:52,785 --> 00:15:54,287 and it's a dangerous place, 354 00:15:54,287 --> 00:15:56,831 between the natural things that are here 355 00:15:56,831 --> 00:15:59,250 and then also the unknown. 356 00:15:59,250 --> 00:16:00,668 Well, it's nice to meet you. 357 00:16:00,668 --> 00:16:01,961 ‐I got to get back to it, so... ‐TRAVIS: All right, 358 00:16:01,961 --> 00:16:03,129 ‐thank you, man. ‐Yep. Have a good one. 359 00:16:03,129 --> 00:16:05,089 I'm excited to be here, man. 360 00:16:05,089 --> 00:16:06,883 I can't wait to start looking around. 361 00:16:06,883 --> 00:16:08,926 Well, let's show you the command center, 362 00:16:08,926 --> 00:16:11,679 real quick, and, uh, start the tour. 363 00:16:11,679 --> 00:16:13,639 TRAVIS: Let's do it. 364 00:16:13,639 --> 00:16:16,475 So this is the command center. 365 00:16:16,475 --> 00:16:17,935 This is the command center. 366 00:16:17,935 --> 00:16:19,478 A few things that we've collected 367 00:16:19,478 --> 00:16:22,481 over the last couple years as we've been here. 368 00:16:22,481 --> 00:16:24,901 Ah, cool. I like all the pictures. 369 00:16:27,278 --> 00:16:28,988 Erik, you ought to show him the control room. 370 00:16:28,988 --> 00:16:30,823 Sure. Travis, come take a look. 371 00:16:30,823 --> 00:16:33,326 Is this where all the instruments are piped into? 372 00:16:33,326 --> 00:16:35,536 ‐ERIK: That it is. ‐The nerve center. 373 00:16:37,079 --> 00:16:39,248 This is our inner sanctum. 374 00:16:41,167 --> 00:16:43,836 TRAVIS: Inner sanctum, I love that. 375 00:16:43,836 --> 00:16:45,671 So it's a work in progress, but you can see... 376 00:16:45,671 --> 00:16:47,006 ‐Yeah... ‐Surveillance assets; 377 00:16:47,006 --> 00:16:49,342 see the systems that we've got online right now. 378 00:16:49,342 --> 00:16:50,968 ERIK: My name is Erik Bard. 379 00:16:50,968 --> 00:16:52,887 I've been acting as principal investigator 380 00:16:52,887 --> 00:16:55,848 at the Skinwalker Ranch site since 2016. 381 00:16:55,848 --> 00:16:59,310 Brandon has entrusted me with the first phase 382 00:16:59,310 --> 00:17:02,647 of the investigation under his watch. 383 00:17:02,647 --> 00:17:05,691 That phase is a phase of... 384 00:17:05,691 --> 00:17:07,318 observational science. 385 00:17:07,318 --> 00:17:10,321 We're observing the property, 386 00:17:10,321 --> 00:17:12,531 primarily looking for phenomena, 387 00:17:12,531 --> 00:17:17,536 and real evidence that there's something here on site. 388 00:17:17,536 --> 00:17:20,164 The idea of building a control room 389 00:17:20,164 --> 00:17:23,834 was born out of necessity, so that I can observe 390 00:17:23,834 --> 00:17:25,544 what's happening at all hours. 391 00:17:25,544 --> 00:17:28,881 We have surveillance assets allowing us to see 392 00:17:28,881 --> 00:17:31,425 in various directions across the property. 393 00:17:33,219 --> 00:17:36,222 We have thermographic imaging cameras, 394 00:17:36,222 --> 00:17:39,392 night‐vision equipment. 395 00:17:39,392 --> 00:17:41,227 And so we've got the weather data. 396 00:17:41,227 --> 00:17:43,896 Always important. Temperature, humidity. 397 00:17:43,896 --> 00:17:45,898 ‐TRAVIS: The daily rain... ‐ERIK: Right. 398 00:17:45,898 --> 00:17:47,608 ‐And what have we got here? ‐You're looking at the output 399 00:17:47,608 --> 00:17:50,403 from the SATAN platform, which is actually right there. 400 00:17:50,403 --> 00:17:53,114 ‐TRAVIS: Okay. ‐ERIK: We also have a platform that I designed, 401 00:17:53,114 --> 00:17:55,366 to which I've given the name SATAN; it's an acronym 402 00:17:55,366 --> 00:17:59,495 for Sentinel Assignment, Telemetry and Notification. 403 00:18:01,247 --> 00:18:03,040 It's a device that allows us to measure 404 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,710 vibrations in the ground and to record sounds 405 00:18:05,710 --> 00:18:09,088 that are below the frequency range of human hearing. 406 00:18:10,590 --> 00:18:12,633 The device is constantly measuring, 407 00:18:12,633 --> 00:18:14,844 and whenever we get a signal of interest, 408 00:18:14,844 --> 00:18:17,096 ‐it lets me know about it. ‐Okay. 409 00:18:17,096 --> 00:18:20,808 ‐This is the transponders for the airplanes? ‐Right, so this 410 00:18:20,808 --> 00:18:22,935 is air traffic over the ranch right now. 411 00:18:22,935 --> 00:18:26,606 We also have an avionics receiver 412 00:18:26,606 --> 00:18:29,442 that receives the signals being emitted by aircraft 413 00:18:29,442 --> 00:18:32,612 identifying them by their tail numbers. 414 00:18:32,612 --> 00:18:35,448 The purpose of the avionics receiver 415 00:18:35,448 --> 00:18:37,491 is to help us discern between 416 00:18:37,491 --> 00:18:40,286 things of known origin‐‐ aircraft‐‐ 417 00:18:40,286 --> 00:18:43,497 and bright light sources 418 00:18:43,497 --> 00:18:46,334 that have no identifying information. 419 00:18:46,334 --> 00:18:50,212 And we've seen things that are actually quite unexpected 420 00:18:50,212 --> 00:18:52,089 and confusing. 421 00:18:52,089 --> 00:18:53,758 But I'm not here to believe, 422 00:18:53,758 --> 00:18:56,469 I am not here to disbelieve, I'm here to observe. 423 00:18:56,469 --> 00:18:59,221 Well, what'd you think? 424 00:18:59,221 --> 00:19:01,849 TRAVIS: Oh, it's the inner sanctum. That was awesome, man. 425 00:19:01,849 --> 00:19:04,935 We got a lot to see. I think we ought to get you out 426 00:19:04,935 --> 00:19:06,270 ‐and get going. ‐Yeah, I'd love to. 427 00:19:06,270 --> 00:19:08,064 THOMAS: Okay. Let's go get started. 428 00:19:09,482 --> 00:19:11,150 So, are we driving or walking? 429 00:19:11,150 --> 00:19:12,485 THOMAS: It's more than a walk, 430 00:19:12,485 --> 00:19:14,236 so why don't we take the UTV? 431 00:19:14,236 --> 00:19:15,571 TRAVIS: I got shotgun! 432 00:19:15,571 --> 00:19:17,531 This is great. 433 00:19:19,617 --> 00:19:21,661 SEGALA: All right, you're about to see some really cool stuff. 434 00:19:21,661 --> 00:19:23,454 ‐TRAVIS: Yeah? ‐THOMAS: We're gonna go see the mesa. 435 00:19:29,418 --> 00:19:31,087 THOMAS: You know, on our way over to the mesa, 436 00:19:31,087 --> 00:19:33,381 there's something I want to show you real quick. 437 00:19:33,381 --> 00:19:36,425 ‐You want to see it for just a second? ‐TRAVIS: Yeah! Heck, yeah. 438 00:19:36,425 --> 00:19:39,261 My hope for being out here at Skinwalker Ranch 439 00:19:39,261 --> 00:19:40,471 is to get some answers. 440 00:19:40,471 --> 00:19:43,057 There's so many stories about, you know, 441 00:19:43,057 --> 00:19:46,060 boogeymen and aliens and whatever else. 442 00:19:46,060 --> 00:19:47,728 If there is something happening out here 443 00:19:47,728 --> 00:19:49,689 that's unusual, I want to find out. 444 00:19:55,152 --> 00:19:57,655 So, Travis, a lot of interesting things. 445 00:19:57,655 --> 00:19:59,949 So this used to be a very operational ranch, 446 00:19:59,949 --> 00:20:02,785 where they had the cattle, they would process right here. 447 00:20:02,785 --> 00:20:06,163 They had calves in this area. They had bulls in this area. 448 00:20:06,163 --> 00:20:08,833 You mean when the‐the Shermans owned the place... 449 00:20:08,833 --> 00:20:10,376 When the Shermans occupied the, uh, the ranch here. 450 00:20:13,129 --> 00:20:14,797 BRANDON: Everything that I have researched 451 00:20:14,797 --> 00:20:17,299 relative to the Sherman family leads me to believe 452 00:20:17,299 --> 00:20:21,512 that they were subjected to such an intense amount 453 00:20:21,512 --> 00:20:24,849 of disturbing activity. 454 00:20:24,849 --> 00:20:28,686 They experienced everything from UFO sightings 455 00:20:28,686 --> 00:20:32,189 to countless cattle mutilations. 456 00:20:32,189 --> 00:20:35,401 They had beasts or entities 457 00:20:35,401 --> 00:20:37,653 that would appear to them. 458 00:20:37,653 --> 00:20:40,030 I don't blame them for selling the property. 459 00:20:40,030 --> 00:20:42,116 They were terrorized. 460 00:20:43,284 --> 00:20:46,412 There's a story where 461 00:20:46,412 --> 00:20:47,413 a very large wolf 462 00:20:47,413 --> 00:20:49,248 came in off the plains. 463 00:20:49,248 --> 00:20:54,170 And a group of calves were in this pen right here. 464 00:20:54,170 --> 00:20:57,465 The wolf put his head through, 465 00:20:57,465 --> 00:21:00,468 and started pulling one of the calves out of the fence. 466 00:21:00,468 --> 00:21:04,138 The Shermans, seeing that, the father then went inside, 467 00:21:04,138 --> 00:21:07,308 got a weapon, and came out and started shooting at it. 468 00:21:07,308 --> 00:21:09,560 Point blank, you know, right here. 469 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,563 Shooting at the wolf. 470 00:21:12,563 --> 00:21:14,648 BRYANT: Right, like a .357, 471 00:21:14,648 --> 00:21:17,067 and then that didn't do anything, 472 00:21:17,067 --> 00:21:18,736 so apparently, it let them go back in 473 00:21:18,736 --> 00:21:20,571 and a bigger gun, and I guess 474 00:21:20,571 --> 00:21:23,407 that's what it took to let it‐‐ to make it drop the calf. 475 00:21:23,407 --> 00:21:26,744 And the story goes that this animal 476 00:21:26,744 --> 00:21:30,748 was strong enough to withstand, allegedly, 477 00:21:30,748 --> 00:21:33,083 six shots from a .357 478 00:21:33,083 --> 00:21:35,461 and a couple shots from a .30‐06 rifle. 479 00:21:38,964 --> 00:21:41,133 So they pursued after it, 480 00:21:41,133 --> 00:21:43,969 and as they got to the part of the ranch 481 00:21:43,969 --> 00:21:46,680 where the river bisects the property, 482 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,683 they could see tracks going down the mud 483 00:21:49,683 --> 00:21:52,436 and starting up the side of the bank on the other side 484 00:21:52,436 --> 00:21:54,230 and then disappearing into nothing, 485 00:21:54,230 --> 00:21:56,482 as if the thing had just vaporized. 486 00:21:56,482 --> 00:22:01,320 And so, there are rumors and stories that have come out 487 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:05,324 about all sorts of really fantastic happenings here. 488 00:22:05,324 --> 00:22:06,784 I‐I know, uh, 489 00:22:06,784 --> 00:22:08,410 the stories of the skinwalker, 490 00:22:08,410 --> 00:22:09,787 the shape‐shifter thing, isn't one of the things 491 00:22:09,787 --> 00:22:12,122 that it's supposed to turn into is like a big wolf? 492 00:22:12,122 --> 00:22:14,834 ‐That's correct. ‐That's strange, right? 493 00:22:14,834 --> 00:22:17,336 So to the mesa? 494 00:22:17,336 --> 00:22:19,380 ‐Yeah, let's head over to the mesa. ‐All right. 495 00:22:19,380 --> 00:22:21,382 I'm not entirely convinced 496 00:22:21,382 --> 00:22:23,300 that this stuff can't be explained. 497 00:22:23,300 --> 00:22:26,637 So I'm really eager to see for myself 498 00:22:26,637 --> 00:22:28,472 what's happening on this ranch. 499 00:22:28,472 --> 00:22:30,224 THOMAS: Okay, ready? 500 00:22:30,224 --> 00:22:31,684 TRAVIS: Yup. 501 00:22:34,979 --> 00:22:36,814 So this is it? Skinwalker Ridge. 502 00:22:36,814 --> 00:22:38,649 ‐THOMAS: Yeah. ‐ERIK: That's right. 503 00:22:38,649 --> 00:22:40,109 TRAVIS: They call it the Skinwalker Ridge. 504 00:22:40,109 --> 00:22:41,777 Has any of you ever seen it? 505 00:22:41,777 --> 00:22:44,864 The skinwalker shape‐shifter thing walking the ridge? 506 00:22:44,864 --> 00:22:46,615 Well, I haven't. 507 00:22:46,615 --> 00:22:48,909 Have y'all talked to anybody that claims to have seen it? 508 00:22:48,909 --> 00:22:50,452 Jim Morse has seen it. 509 00:22:50,452 --> 00:22:52,663 That's right. 510 00:22:52,663 --> 00:22:57,001 When they talk about the curse of the skinwalker, 511 00:22:57,001 --> 00:23:00,504 um, back in the mid‐1800s, 1860, 512 00:23:00,504 --> 00:23:04,550 uh, the Utes and the Navajo, um, they crossed each other. 513 00:23:06,385 --> 00:23:09,179 Unfortunately, the Utes were utilizing 514 00:23:09,179 --> 00:23:11,098 the Navajos as slaves. 515 00:23:11,098 --> 00:23:13,934 So the Utes and the Navajo 516 00:23:13,934 --> 00:23:16,645 got into a skirmish, 517 00:23:16,645 --> 00:23:19,106 and because of that 518 00:23:19,106 --> 00:23:21,859 the Navajos cursed this land, 519 00:23:21,859 --> 00:23:25,112 which now is the, uh, path of the skinwalker, 520 00:23:25,112 --> 00:23:28,324 this shape‐shifting spirit. 521 00:23:28,324 --> 00:23:31,535 I didn't want to believe this phenomenon is real, 522 00:23:31,535 --> 00:23:33,704 but then there was one evening 523 00:23:33,704 --> 00:23:36,081 that we were combing the ground, 524 00:23:36,081 --> 00:23:37,958 and one of the guards that I was with 525 00:23:37,958 --> 00:23:40,461 carries, like, an infrared lamp, 526 00:23:40,461 --> 00:23:44,715 and as he was combing the rocs 527 00:23:44,715 --> 00:23:49,303 he pointed out two big red eyes. 528 00:23:49,303 --> 00:23:51,889 It looked at me, and then it left. 529 00:23:51,889 --> 00:23:54,224 Call me what you will, 530 00:23:54,224 --> 00:23:56,101 but I, personally, am not comfortable out here‐‐ 531 00:23:56,101 --> 00:23:58,604 even with my security background 532 00:23:58,604 --> 00:24:01,148 as a military police officer‐‐ to be out here alone, 533 00:24:01,148 --> 00:24:03,651 uh, in‐in the, in the dark of the night. 534 00:24:06,612 --> 00:24:08,072 THOMAS: Let's stop right here. 535 00:24:08,072 --> 00:24:09,740 This is probably the easiest place 536 00:24:09,740 --> 00:24:12,910 to access the top of the ridg. 537 00:24:12,910 --> 00:24:14,954 Climb the rest of the way. 538 00:24:18,916 --> 00:24:22,127 TRAVIS: So is this where the glow was from the video? 539 00:24:22,127 --> 00:24:23,837 That's right, there's about a 500 to 600 540 00:24:23,837 --> 00:24:25,881 foot long section of this mesa 541 00:24:25,881 --> 00:24:30,552 that appears to pulsate in some of our night footage. 542 00:24:30,552 --> 00:24:35,099 I'm gonna check my compass and see if it's acting crazy. 543 00:24:35,099 --> 00:24:37,935 That's... that's west, right? 544 00:24:37,935 --> 00:24:40,521 So it seems like it's doing fine. 545 00:24:40,521 --> 00:24:42,815 You ought to check your TriField meter, see what it's doing. 546 00:24:42,815 --> 00:24:45,109 I'm getting a little tone from it. 547 00:24:45,109 --> 00:24:46,986 ‐A little tone? ‐Whoa. 548 00:24:46,986 --> 00:24:48,862 ‐Let me see that thing. ‐Sure. 549 00:24:48,862 --> 00:24:51,407 TRAVIS: Out on the mesa, 550 00:24:51,407 --> 00:24:53,158 we're using these electric field measurement devices 551 00:24:53,158 --> 00:24:55,119 called TriField meters. 552 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,496 ‐Get out of the way, make sure it ain't your radio. ‐Okay. 553 00:24:57,496 --> 00:25:00,791 TRAVIS: And they measure three fields: magnetic field, 554 00:25:00,791 --> 00:25:04,378 static electric field, then it measures radio frequency 555 00:25:04,378 --> 00:25:07,840 and microwaves, which is electromagnetic dynamic fields. 556 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,300 Whoa, whoa, it's gone up. 557 00:25:10,300 --> 00:25:12,136 Hold on, let me step back. 558 00:25:12,136 --> 00:25:15,848 TRAVIS: There are always radio waves 559 00:25:15,848 --> 00:25:17,099 and microwaves bouncing around everywhere. 560 00:25:17,099 --> 00:25:18,642 We use that for Wi‐Fi, 561 00:25:18,642 --> 00:25:20,436 for your cell phone communications, everything. 562 00:25:20,436 --> 00:25:22,604 The biggest thing that piqued my interest 563 00:25:22,604 --> 00:25:24,940 was the amount of energy in these microwaves 564 00:25:24,940 --> 00:25:27,443 we were measuring was getting close to dangerous levels. 565 00:25:27,443 --> 00:25:28,610 That's significant. 566 00:25:28,610 --> 00:25:29,820 And the direction 567 00:25:29,820 --> 00:25:30,946 continued to change. 568 00:25:30,946 --> 00:25:33,824 It's coming from that direction. 569 00:25:33,824 --> 00:25:37,202 What is doing that? 570 00:25:37,202 --> 00:25:38,662 Look at that. 571 00:25:39,913 --> 00:25:41,248 Sounds like it might be getting 572 00:25:41,248 --> 00:25:42,791 louder as we get higher. 573 00:25:42,791 --> 00:25:45,210 Let's go up the mountain and see what happens. 574 00:25:47,671 --> 00:25:50,883 Skinwalker Ranch is in the middle of nowhere, 575 00:25:50,883 --> 00:25:53,844 and I couldn't see a cell phone tower as far as I could see. 576 00:25:53,844 --> 00:25:55,971 I barely was getting a signal on my phone, 577 00:25:55,971 --> 00:26:00,142 and there were no Wi‐Fi routers. 578 00:26:00,142 --> 00:26:01,935 ‐Whoo. Man, that was a nice walk. ‐Man. That's a climb. 579 00:26:01,935 --> 00:26:05,064 ‐(chuckles) ‐Hey, hand me that meter. 580 00:26:05,064 --> 00:26:07,524 What's yours saying, Erik? 581 00:26:07,524 --> 00:26:10,277 ‐So we're at four and a half. ‐Which way? 582 00:26:10,277 --> 00:26:11,612 This way. 583 00:26:11,612 --> 00:26:13,447 Yeah, this one's pegging out. 584 00:26:13,447 --> 00:26:15,699 Along‐‐ It's kind of a‐along the ridge line. 585 00:26:15,699 --> 00:26:19,286 Yeah, I mean, it's‐it's a real strong signal. 586 00:26:19,286 --> 00:26:21,455 THOMAS: What's it saying? 587 00:26:21,455 --> 00:26:24,041 TRAVIS: Dude, it's‐it's in the milliwatts per meter squared. 588 00:26:25,876 --> 00:26:27,127 And, I mean, that's a significant 589 00:26:27,127 --> 00:26:28,921 amount of energy right there. 590 00:26:28,921 --> 00:26:31,965 We went to the top of the mesa, and what we found 591 00:26:31,965 --> 00:26:35,177 was even more electromagnetic radiation 592 00:26:35,177 --> 00:26:36,428 that shouldn't be there. 593 00:26:36,428 --> 00:26:37,888 That's a real strong signal. 594 00:26:37,888 --> 00:26:39,640 And at dangerous levels 595 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,225 that could be harmful to humans. 596 00:26:41,225 --> 00:26:42,893 Oh! 597 00:26:42,893 --> 00:26:44,186 And it's shifted now. 598 00:26:44,186 --> 00:26:45,813 Now it's coming from that direction. 599 00:26:45,813 --> 00:26:48,440 ‐And it's all radiation. ‐TRAVIS: Yeah, yeah, it's all RF. 600 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:49,942 Wow. 601 00:26:49,942 --> 00:26:52,277 TRAVIS: The level of microwaves there 602 00:26:52,277 --> 00:26:56,073 that we detected were much stronger than 603 00:26:56,073 --> 00:26:58,117 what you get from your cell phone 604 00:26:58,117 --> 00:26:59,952 or your Wi‐Fi routers, 605 00:26:59,952 --> 00:27:03,956 and microwaves like that just don't exist in nature. 606 00:27:03,956 --> 00:27:08,127 So where was this microwave radiation coming from? 607 00:27:08,127 --> 00:27:09,461 Because I'd never seen that. 608 00:27:09,461 --> 00:27:12,089 I don't know. We've‐we've been here, what, 609 00:27:12,089 --> 00:27:14,299 an hour and already found something 610 00:27:14,299 --> 00:27:16,135 that I don't have any idea what's going on. 611 00:27:16,135 --> 00:27:18,846 I‐I‐I don't understand it. 612 00:27:23,851 --> 00:27:25,811 TRAVIS: Well, I have no idea fo what we just saw, e, 613 00:27:25,811 --> 00:27:29,189 but we did see something. 614 00:27:29,189 --> 00:27:31,608 Not bad for your first few hours on the ranch, huh? 615 00:27:31,608 --> 00:27:33,652 Yup, wasn't bad. 616 00:27:33,652 --> 00:27:35,404 Wasn't a monster or an alien 617 00:27:35,404 --> 00:27:38,615 or a UFO, but it was still something weird. 618 00:27:38,615 --> 00:27:39,992 At least it was something. 619 00:27:39,992 --> 00:27:41,660 TRAVIS: I certainly didn't expect 620 00:27:41,660 --> 00:27:44,329 to see anything the first day I got here, 621 00:27:44,329 --> 00:27:45,664 much less the first hour, 622 00:27:45,664 --> 00:27:48,333 but when we walked up on Skinwalker Ridge, 623 00:27:48,333 --> 00:27:52,004 we saw microwave radiation at levels 624 00:27:52,004 --> 00:27:53,839 that were close to dangerous. 625 00:27:53,839 --> 00:27:55,674 Hey, guys, welcome back. 626 00:27:55,674 --> 00:27:57,509 TRAVIS: And I wasn't expecting that. 627 00:27:57,509 --> 00:27:58,677 I can't explain it, 628 00:27:58,677 --> 00:28:00,846 but we're gonna get to the bottom of it. 629 00:28:00,846 --> 00:28:05,017 There was some sort of source of‐of electromagnetic radiation 630 00:28:05,017 --> 00:28:06,560 hitting the bottom of the mountain, 631 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,687 and as we moved up the mountain, it seemed 632 00:28:08,687 --> 00:28:11,690 to get a little worse, and it was random, though, 633 00:28:11,690 --> 00:28:14,276 'cause we'd point the meter in one direction, and it'd peg out, 634 00:28:14,276 --> 00:28:16,445 then it'd stop. Then we'd point it in another direction, 635 00:28:16,445 --> 00:28:19,698 and it'd peg out again. Held my cell phone up to it, 636 00:28:19,698 --> 00:28:21,241 ‐it wasn't the cell phone. ‐THOMAS: Yeah, electronics weren't‐‐ 637 00:28:21,241 --> 00:28:23,702 didn't seem to be the source of it, which is... 638 00:28:23,702 --> 00:28:26,038 Well, and there was two of them reacting the same way, 639 00:28:26,038 --> 00:28:28,707 so it wasn't a bad meter or anything like that, we had both. 640 00:28:28,707 --> 00:28:31,043 And one time, Erik was holding his pointed 641 00:28:31,043 --> 00:28:32,377 completely opposite direction, 642 00:28:32,377 --> 00:28:34,087 and both of them were pegging out. 643 00:28:34,087 --> 00:28:36,048 ‐It was just‐just strange. ‐BRYANT: Well, and that sort of thing 644 00:28:36,048 --> 00:28:38,926 doesn't just happen on the mesa or in the bowl like that. 645 00:28:38,926 --> 00:28:41,386 We'll come across times where we'll be carrying that equipment 646 00:28:41,386 --> 00:28:44,890 and all of a sudden it'll peg out for no reason. 647 00:28:44,890 --> 00:28:46,433 Yup. 648 00:28:46,433 --> 00:28:48,644 That's why we need to be measuring this stuff 649 00:28:48,644 --> 00:28:50,896 over a long period of time. 650 00:28:50,896 --> 00:28:52,397 ‐Right. ‐BRYANT: Exactly. 651 00:28:52,397 --> 00:28:53,815 ‐Right. ‐Exactly. 652 00:28:53,815 --> 00:28:55,275 So I'd like to get about 50 653 00:28:55,275 --> 00:28:57,110 of those TriField meters 654 00:28:57,110 --> 00:28:59,988 and put them in known locations around the ranch, 655 00:28:59,988 --> 00:29:02,074 like, up on the hill where we just measured the crazy stuff, 656 00:29:02,074 --> 00:29:03,825 whatever that was, 657 00:29:03,825 --> 00:29:05,827 and‐and have it real‐time, right there, being recorded. 658 00:29:05,827 --> 00:29:07,287 ‐Yeah. Oh, yeah. ‐Right? 659 00:29:07,287 --> 00:29:08,747 'Cause if something like that 660 00:29:08,747 --> 00:29:09,998 is happening like we just saw, 661 00:29:09,998 --> 00:29:11,667 I want us to capture date and time 662 00:29:11,667 --> 00:29:13,126 'cause that way we might‐‐ can figure out 663 00:29:13,126 --> 00:29:14,503 where it's coming from, what it's doing, 664 00:29:14,503 --> 00:29:16,338 ‐and what's happening to it. ‐Yeah. 665 00:29:16,338 --> 00:29:18,256 Beyond that, I would like to have 666 00:29:18,256 --> 00:29:20,801 a complete sweep of the radiation spectrum 667 00:29:20,801 --> 00:29:22,719 over the entire ranch. 668 00:29:22,719 --> 00:29:24,471 THOMAS: And that reminds me, when they were doing 669 00:29:24,471 --> 00:29:25,931 the nuclear tests down in Nevada... 670 00:29:25,931 --> 00:29:28,392 ‐Are you talking about the atomic bomb testing? ‐Yes. 671 00:29:28,392 --> 00:29:30,268 When they were doing that down in Nevada, 672 00:29:30,268 --> 00:29:32,270 uh, the Uinta basin was actually 673 00:29:32,270 --> 00:29:34,856 ‐a hot spot for the downwind. ‐Oh, really? 674 00:29:34,856 --> 00:29:36,441 Some of the highest concentrations measured, 675 00:29:36,441 --> 00:29:38,402 if I understand right, were just 676 00:29:38,402 --> 00:29:40,487 30 miles north of here. 677 00:29:40,487 --> 00:29:42,155 Well, we should look into that as well. 678 00:29:42,155 --> 00:29:43,782 We‐we know what the decay products are 679 00:29:43,782 --> 00:29:45,617 from those particular tests 680 00:29:45,617 --> 00:29:47,536 and that's all documented really well. We should 681 00:29:47,536 --> 00:29:49,955 look in to see how that may have affected the ranch. 682 00:29:49,955 --> 00:29:51,665 ‐Right? ‐That's a great idea. ‐Yup. 683 00:29:53,709 --> 00:29:55,752 TRAVIS: Back during the Manhattan Project, 684 00:29:55,752 --> 00:29:59,631 as, uh, long ago as 1945 and on through the early '50s, 685 00:29:59,631 --> 00:30:02,342 a few hundred miles away, 686 00:30:02,342 --> 00:30:04,761 at the Nevada Test Site, 687 00:30:04,761 --> 00:30:09,474 there were aboveground nuclear tests, 688 00:30:09,474 --> 00:30:12,352 meaning atomic bombs were set off. 689 00:30:12,352 --> 00:30:14,146 Nuclear fallout was thrown up into the sky, 690 00:30:14,146 --> 00:30:16,148 this is radioactive dirt, 691 00:30:16,148 --> 00:30:20,694 dust particles, that then fly around with the air currents, 692 00:30:20,694 --> 00:30:24,156 and a lot of those winds brought this radiation 693 00:30:24,156 --> 00:30:27,492 over the Uinta Basin where Skinwalker Ranch is. 694 00:30:27,492 --> 00:30:29,786 So back in the '50s, 695 00:30:29,786 --> 00:30:32,664 it's highly likely that radioactive fallout 696 00:30:32,664 --> 00:30:34,207 fell on this ranch, 697 00:30:34,207 --> 00:30:37,711 and some of it should still be there today. 698 00:30:37,711 --> 00:30:41,048 It's possible that exposure 699 00:30:41,048 --> 00:30:43,508 to radioactive fallout 700 00:30:43,508 --> 00:30:46,178 could cause people to have strange symptoms, 701 00:30:46,178 --> 00:30:49,848 maybe even hallucinations, and see things, hear things, 702 00:30:49,848 --> 00:30:52,601 and maybe even do things that would seem abnormal. 703 00:30:52,601 --> 00:30:55,520 There might be uranium or something 704 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,230 ‐in the dirt here. ‐Right. 705 00:30:57,230 --> 00:30:59,024 So we need to have a complete radiation sweep, 706 00:30:59,024 --> 00:31:00,859 ‐so we'd have a map. ‐Sure. 707 00:31:00,859 --> 00:31:02,778 ‐That's right. ‐TRAVIS: We need to look for radon gas 708 00:31:02,778 --> 00:31:05,113 'cause that's a by‐product of uranium decay. 709 00:31:05,113 --> 00:31:08,200 We should look for, uh, gammas and betas and alpha 710 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,368 ‐particles even. ‐Mm‐hmm. 711 00:31:10,368 --> 00:31:11,787 We need to look for radioactive trace 712 00:31:11,787 --> 00:31:13,955 or something in the ground, so we should see 713 00:31:13,955 --> 00:31:16,833 what happens when we do something like digging a hole. 714 00:31:16,833 --> 00:31:18,585 And we create 715 00:31:18,585 --> 00:31:22,047 a precisely controlled experiment where 716 00:31:22,047 --> 00:31:24,007 we're digging to this depth, 717 00:31:24,007 --> 00:31:25,717 and to this size, and this volume. 718 00:31:25,717 --> 00:31:29,304 And every five feet, you do a gamma test. 719 00:31:29,304 --> 00:31:30,722 TRAVIS: Right. 720 00:31:30,722 --> 00:31:32,724 We can be looking at the electromagnetic spectrum 721 00:31:32,724 --> 00:31:35,102 while we're doing it in case there is some kind of strange 722 00:31:35,102 --> 00:31:37,145 microwave phenomena that's occurring. 723 00:31:37,145 --> 00:31:38,772 BRYANT: Look, 724 00:31:38,772 --> 00:31:41,942 scientists by nature want to explain everything. 725 00:31:41,942 --> 00:31:44,236 ‐Well... ‐See, here's‐‐ The problem is, 726 00:31:44,236 --> 00:31:47,739 those of us that don't think in a scientific mind all the time, 727 00:31:47,739 --> 00:31:49,574 talk about a feeling or, you know, 728 00:31:49,574 --> 00:31:51,993 something‐‐ the heebie‐jeebies, whatever you want to call it... 729 00:31:51,993 --> 00:31:54,037 ‐Right. ‐...in us laypeople terms. 730 00:31:54,037 --> 00:31:57,582 I mean, I'm not a scientist, but I've spent a ton of time here, 731 00:31:57,582 --> 00:31:59,251 I know for a fact, 732 00:31:59,251 --> 00:32:01,962 crap goes down when people start disturbing the earth. 733 00:32:01,962 --> 00:32:05,423 If we start digging, that's the trigger. 734 00:32:05,423 --> 00:32:08,468 You know, if you're gonna be a part of this, 735 00:32:08,468 --> 00:32:13,014 I have to unequivocably say "No digging." 736 00:32:22,732 --> 00:32:26,486 When you guys talk about every W time somebody digs out here 737 00:32:26,486 --> 00:32:28,405 on the ranch without asking about 738 00:32:28,405 --> 00:32:31,158 where to and where not to dig, it seems to me 739 00:32:31,158 --> 00:32:33,618 like that's‐that's a big blinking sign saying 740 00:32:33,618 --> 00:32:36,955 "if you want to create the phenomena to manifest itself, 741 00:32:36,955 --> 00:32:39,082 ‐you go and dig somewhere." ‐BRYANT: I'm not 742 00:32:39,082 --> 00:32:41,042 the type that wants to go looking for trouble. 743 00:32:41,042 --> 00:32:43,003 There's enough going on around this place 744 00:32:43,003 --> 00:32:45,589 where I‐I'm not looking to stir up trouble. 745 00:32:45,589 --> 00:32:48,258 ‐Yeah, I mean, I‐I hear you... ‐Great. 746 00:32:48,258 --> 00:32:49,801 BRYANT: The history of the place 747 00:32:49,801 --> 00:32:54,264 has said that when you dig, bad stuff happens. 748 00:32:54,264 --> 00:32:56,808 I heard about not digging 749 00:32:56,808 --> 00:32:59,144 as soon as I came onto the property. 750 00:32:59,144 --> 00:33:02,355 It goes back to previous owners of the property. 751 00:33:02,355 --> 00:33:06,193 They said that when you dig or disturb the earth, 752 00:33:06,193 --> 00:33:11,072 that is what seemed to trigger whatever phenomenon is here 753 00:33:11,072 --> 00:33:15,744 and caused harm, and that's not what I'm looking to do here. 754 00:33:15,744 --> 00:33:17,996 Well, how about you, Erik? 755 00:33:17,996 --> 00:33:20,665 Well, do you want to go out and start digging holes? 756 00:33:20,665 --> 00:33:23,126 You're the eyes and ears of the place. 757 00:33:23,126 --> 00:33:24,336 ERIK: I'm doing my very best 758 00:33:24,336 --> 00:33:25,795 not to be superstitious about this. 759 00:33:25,795 --> 00:33:28,465 I am intensely curious 760 00:33:28,465 --> 00:33:31,176 about what might be below this‐this ranch. 761 00:33:31,176 --> 00:33:33,595 But I do not consider 762 00:33:33,595 --> 00:33:37,766 my own curiosity an entitlement to knowledge. 763 00:33:37,766 --> 00:33:41,811 There are some contexts in which perhaps even I shouldn't know 764 00:33:41,811 --> 00:33:43,688 about what's going on on the ranch. 765 00:33:43,688 --> 00:33:45,815 But until I'm advised to that end, 766 00:33:45,815 --> 00:33:48,944 I'm proceeding as if this is an observational, 767 00:33:48,944 --> 00:33:51,238 ‐experimental undertaking. ‐TRAVIS: Well, 768 00:33:51,238 --> 00:33:52,572 I think that's what it has to be. 769 00:33:52,572 --> 00:33:54,699 My grandmother used to always say, 770 00:33:54,699 --> 00:33:56,159 "A hornet's nest isn't interesting 771 00:33:56,159 --> 00:33:57,577 until you poke it with a stick." 772 00:33:57,577 --> 00:33:59,371 ‐Right? And... ‐BRYANT: Okay, well, 773 00:33:59,371 --> 00:34:01,164 what kind of hornets were you dealing with? 774 00:34:01,164 --> 00:34:04,834 Well, hornets that sting, so you use a really long stick 775 00:34:04,834 --> 00:34:06,920 ‐and then you drop the stick and run really fast. ‐Okay, so... 776 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,713 who's gonna do the digging, then? 777 00:34:08,713 --> 00:34:11,841 Well, that's a good question. I don't know the answer to that. 778 00:34:11,841 --> 00:34:15,720 Maybe we get volunteers that don't mind the risk? 779 00:34:15,720 --> 00:34:18,348 It's impossible to explain the risk. 780 00:34:18,348 --> 00:34:19,724 There's one person that knows the risk, 781 00:34:19,724 --> 00:34:21,518 and he's sitting right there. Right? 782 00:34:23,603 --> 00:34:26,731 Having been a person that's done a lot of digging on this ranch, 783 00:34:26,731 --> 00:34:28,608 the more serious of digging I do, 784 00:34:28,608 --> 00:34:31,820 the more serious of consequences that follow. 785 00:34:34,948 --> 00:34:36,908 I didn't believe in the paranormal 786 00:34:36,908 --> 00:34:38,535 when I came out on this ranch. 787 00:34:38,535 --> 00:34:41,705 And I paid a pretty hefty price. 788 00:34:41,705 --> 00:34:45,709 When they told me not to dig, I just thought it was ridiculou. 789 00:34:45,709 --> 00:34:50,297 And so, one day, I decided to do some digging. 790 00:34:50,297 --> 00:34:54,426 And then, three days after, I noticed that I had 791 00:34:54,426 --> 00:34:56,261 a goose egg on the back of my head. 792 00:34:56,261 --> 00:34:59,014 By the time I let my wife 793 00:34:59,014 --> 00:35:00,765 finally take me to the emergency room, 794 00:35:00,765 --> 00:35:04,603 the goose egg had actually spread through my entire head. 795 00:35:04,603 --> 00:35:07,897 My scalp separated from my skull. 796 00:35:07,897 --> 00:35:10,900 The pain is so excruciating, I've never felt anything 797 00:35:10,900 --> 00:35:13,695 like it before in my life. 798 00:35:13,695 --> 00:35:16,948 The doctors had no idea what caused it. 799 00:35:16,948 --> 00:35:18,908 They didn't know how to fix i. 800 00:35:18,908 --> 00:35:20,910 Basically they're telling me what happened to me 801 00:35:20,910 --> 00:35:24,956 was medically impossible, and it caused me a severe injury 802 00:35:24,956 --> 00:35:28,793 that to this day I'm still having some repercussions with. 803 00:35:28,793 --> 00:35:32,464 I know that I was warned, "Hey, don't do digging." 804 00:35:32,464 --> 00:35:35,800 I didn't have this preconceived idea in my mind that if I dug, 805 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,179 something bad was gonna happen, because I‐I didn't believe it. 806 00:35:41,264 --> 00:35:44,643 Enough things have happened to myself, to the equipment, 807 00:35:44,643 --> 00:35:47,979 it is a possibility that they are correlated. 808 00:35:47,979 --> 00:35:49,981 This is real stuff. 809 00:35:49,981 --> 00:35:51,900 This is nothing to take for granted. 810 00:35:51,900 --> 00:35:54,152 You're talking about health and wellbeing. 811 00:35:54,152 --> 00:35:56,905 T‐This is no nonsense. 812 00:35:56,905 --> 00:35:58,823 TRAVIS: I get it. 813 00:35:58,823 --> 00:36:00,659 These guys are nervous. 814 00:36:00,659 --> 00:36:02,952 When they've dug, they've seen things happen. 815 00:36:02,952 --> 00:36:04,913 Tom's injury was real serious. 816 00:36:04,913 --> 00:36:07,916 It scares them a little bit and they want to be careful. 817 00:36:07,916 --> 00:36:09,334 And I get that. 818 00:36:09,334 --> 00:36:10,960 I don't want anybody to get hurt. 819 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,714 But I'm not sure what caused the injury. 820 00:36:14,714 --> 00:36:16,383 And I think we're only gonna find that out 821 00:36:16,383 --> 00:36:19,469 by doing a lot more experimentation. 822 00:36:19,469 --> 00:36:23,014 We are interacting with this somehow or other, 823 00:36:23,014 --> 00:36:26,101 and so we need to calibrate what we're doing to the experiment. 824 00:36:26,101 --> 00:36:27,811 THOMAS: Look, if we're gonna dig, 825 00:36:27,811 --> 00:36:29,646 if we're gonna test this, let's just do it in a way 826 00:36:29,646 --> 00:36:31,648 that we're keeping the possibility 827 00:36:31,648 --> 00:36:34,567 that it may be dangerous and let's put some safety nets up, 828 00:36:34,567 --> 00:36:35,777 just in case. 829 00:36:37,445 --> 00:36:40,031 Jim, what do, what do you think about it? 830 00:36:40,031 --> 00:36:42,659 I think we should dig because I want to learn more 831 00:36:42,659 --> 00:36:44,202 about what it means to dig. 832 00:36:44,202 --> 00:36:47,789 I don't see an anomaly happening as a warning, 833 00:36:47,789 --> 00:36:49,416 I see it as an invitation. 834 00:36:49,416 --> 00:36:51,042 BRYANT: Look, 835 00:36:51,042 --> 00:36:53,044 it's not my piece of property. 836 00:36:53,044 --> 00:36:55,880 You've been brought here obviously for a purpose. 837 00:36:55,880 --> 00:37:00,510 If the owner of the property says, "I want this to happen," 838 00:37:00,510 --> 00:37:02,554 then I'm on board. 839 00:37:02,554 --> 00:37:06,224 We ought to see if we can get Brandon on the line 840 00:37:06,224 --> 00:37:07,559 and talk to him about some of the stuff 841 00:37:07,559 --> 00:37:09,227 that we've talked about. 842 00:37:09,227 --> 00:37:11,730 Erik, do you think we can get him on video chat 843 00:37:11,730 --> 00:37:13,606 ‐or something like that, see if we can give him an update? ‐Sure. 844 00:37:13,606 --> 00:37:15,400 ‐Sure, I'll bring him up now. ‐All right. 845 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,402 (line ringing) 846 00:37:19,487 --> 00:37:20,697 (chimes) 847 00:37:28,538 --> 00:37:31,082 ‐TRAVIS: Hey, Brandon. ‐Greetings, team. How are you? 848 00:37:31,082 --> 00:37:32,417 ‐Doing well. ‐Doing great, how are you? 849 00:37:32,417 --> 00:37:34,878 I am glad that you patched me in 850 00:37:34,878 --> 00:37:38,214 and I'm wondering how the investigation is progressing. 851 00:37:38,214 --> 00:37:40,759 Well, it's been an eventful day. 852 00:37:40,759 --> 00:37:43,261 As the ranch usually does when we bring new people on, 853 00:37:43,261 --> 00:37:45,972 it seems to, uh, liven up a little bit. 854 00:37:45,972 --> 00:37:50,059 And we, uh, caught some pretty interesting things today. 855 00:37:50,059 --> 00:37:51,269 TRAVIS: Yeah, Brandon, when we were up 856 00:37:51,269 --> 00:37:52,937 on the mesa, the TriField meters 857 00:37:52,937 --> 00:37:58,234 were measuring really strong transient microwave fields 858 00:37:58,234 --> 00:38:00,612 and‐and the power that, uh, we were picking up 859 00:38:00,612 --> 00:38:02,822 was on the verge of being dangerous levels. 860 00:38:02,822 --> 00:38:07,368 So, I'd like to get some more precise measurements made. 861 00:38:07,368 --> 00:38:11,289 Yeah, that's‐that's disturbing, and that is also consistent 862 00:38:11,289 --> 00:38:14,459 with what we've experienced in the past. 863 00:38:14,459 --> 00:38:17,462 What are the priority items going forward 864 00:38:17,462 --> 00:38:19,464 as we launch into this phase of the investigation? 865 00:38:19,464 --> 00:38:22,884 BRYANT: So, one of the first things the guys want to do 866 00:38:22,884 --> 00:38:24,928 is get some surveys and some testing done. 867 00:38:24,928 --> 00:38:27,305 They want to do some RF testing. 868 00:38:27,305 --> 00:38:30,308 They want to do radiological testing, 869 00:38:30,308 --> 00:38:33,937 some thermography and... 870 00:38:33,937 --> 00:38:35,855 they want to dig. 871 00:38:35,855 --> 00:38:38,107 Hmm. 872 00:38:39,818 --> 00:38:41,319 You know, I... 873 00:38:41,319 --> 00:38:44,948 I'm not sure I'm comfortable with that. 874 00:38:44,948 --> 00:38:47,951 Uh, w‐which part are you not comfortable with, uh, Brandon? 875 00:38:47,951 --> 00:38:52,288 The digging. I think that once we commence digging, 876 00:38:52,288 --> 00:38:54,457 it opens up a whole Pandora's box, 877 00:38:54,457 --> 00:38:56,835 and there are certain risks 878 00:38:56,835 --> 00:39:01,339 that I think you just aren't privy to 879 00:39:01,339 --> 00:39:03,842 and haven't been properly briefed on. 880 00:39:03,842 --> 00:39:06,511 TRAVIS: When Brandon said 881 00:39:06,511 --> 00:39:08,137 there was no digging on the ranch, I was stunned. 882 00:39:08,137 --> 00:39:09,681 How are we gonna get to the bottom of things 883 00:39:09,681 --> 00:39:11,140 happening on this place, 884 00:39:11,140 --> 00:39:13,560 if we can't investigate in every way we can? 885 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,186 TRAVIS: Well, we need 886 00:39:15,186 --> 00:39:17,564 to be briefed on that data, then, 887 00:39:17,564 --> 00:39:19,232 so we can understand the phenomena 888 00:39:19,232 --> 00:39:23,862 that we're being exposed to or trying to uncover. 889 00:39:23,862 --> 00:39:25,864 I understand. Erik, 890 00:39:25,864 --> 00:39:30,535 do you happen to have the, uh, the case? 891 00:39:30,535 --> 00:39:32,662 I do. I've been saving it 892 00:39:32,662 --> 00:39:34,998 until the right point in the discussion to bring it up. 893 00:39:34,998 --> 00:39:40,169 TRAVIS: My first reaction when Brandon tells me 894 00:39:40,169 --> 00:39:41,754 that they haven't showed us everything, 895 00:39:41,754 --> 00:39:43,882 that we haven't seen all the information they have... 896 00:39:43,882 --> 00:39:46,050 Well, how can I help them 897 00:39:46,050 --> 00:39:48,219 if they don't give me all the information? 898 00:39:48,219 --> 00:39:51,723 And I was a little bit concerned about that. 899 00:39:51,723 --> 00:39:53,808 This is not to be taken lightly, 900 00:39:53,808 --> 00:39:56,728 and that's why we've kept the material 901 00:39:56,728 --> 00:39:59,147 under lock and key. 902 00:39:59,147 --> 00:40:01,399 I think you'll understand soon why. 903 00:40:01,399 --> 00:40:02,984 This is a matter of, really, 904 00:40:02,984 --> 00:40:05,695 the highest level of seriousness and sensitivity. 905 00:40:05,695 --> 00:40:07,739 ‐Hmm. ‐BRYANT: These are hornets that you've never 906 00:40:07,739 --> 00:40:09,365 had to deal with before. 907 00:40:09,365 --> 00:40:11,242 Hornets. All right. 908 00:40:11,242 --> 00:40:13,202 Well, I want to see them. 909 00:40:13,202 --> 00:40:15,538 BRANDON: Erik, with that, 910 00:40:15,538 --> 00:40:17,749 proceed to show them what is in the case. 911 00:40:17,749 --> 00:40:19,417 Regrettably, I have to go to a meeting, 912 00:40:19,417 --> 00:40:21,920 so I'll look for your update later. 913 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,756 ‐Thanks, gentlemen. ‐OTHERS: Thanks, Brandon. 914 00:40:24,756 --> 00:40:27,467 TRAVIS: I came into this saying, look, guys, 915 00:40:27,467 --> 00:40:29,052 we're gonna follow the scientific method. 916 00:40:29,052 --> 00:40:31,471 You can't keep data 917 00:40:31,471 --> 00:40:35,850 away from the experiment and not show the rest of the team, 918 00:40:35,850 --> 00:40:38,478 in order for it to be a good experiment. 919 00:40:38,478 --> 00:40:41,147 I've got a U. S. government clearance, 920 00:40:41,147 --> 00:40:42,941 and I don't see why Brandon and the team 921 00:40:42,941 --> 00:40:44,776 feel like they have to keep anything from me. 922 00:40:44,776 --> 00:40:46,235 Now, I'm beginning to wonder what the heck 923 00:40:46,235 --> 00:40:48,404 they've got in store for me. 924 00:40:50,114 --> 00:40:51,783 So what I am going to show you 925 00:40:51,783 --> 00:40:53,451 may offer an explanation for some 926 00:40:53,451 --> 00:40:55,495 of what we've been seeing on the property. 927 00:40:55,495 --> 00:40:58,164 You'll understand as soon as I open this up. 928 00:41:05,213 --> 00:41:06,422 TRAVIS: Wow. 929 00:41:10,343 --> 00:41:13,763 TRAVIS: The legend is that things happen on this ranch. 930 00:41:13,763 --> 00:41:15,348 SEGALA: Okay, that's spiking. 931 00:41:15,348 --> 00:41:17,392 ‐That could be dangerous. ‐It's coming from up there. 932 00:41:17,392 --> 00:41:19,102 ERIK: The signal was coming from the sky. 933 00:41:19,102 --> 00:41:21,145 ‐What is that? ‐TRAVIS: Do you guys see that? 934 00:41:21,145 --> 00:41:22,480 It flew from behind the mesa. Foom. 935 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:23,648 ‐There it is. ‐There it is again. 936 00:41:23,648 --> 00:41:25,858 Whoa. That's a definite beam. 937 00:41:25,858 --> 00:41:30,321 The moment that object appeared, the cow reacted. 938 00:41:30,321 --> 00:41:32,448 HOWE: We are dealing with some kind of intelligence 939 00:41:32,448 --> 00:41:34,826 that has the ability to paralyze. 940 00:41:34,826 --> 00:41:38,579 KANDUS: It felt like someone was knocking from under the floor. 941 00:41:38,579 --> 00:41:40,957 ‐What is that? ‐THOMAS: Is that a fragmented bone? 942 00:41:40,957 --> 00:41:42,375 ERIK: It could be human remains. 943 00:41:42,375 --> 00:41:45,086 We have something active beneath this property. 944 00:41:45,086 --> 00:41:47,880 ‐TRAVIS: It stinks in here. ‐THOMAS: I don't want to stay in here very long. 945 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,799 TRAVIS: We were just exposed to ionizing radiation. 946 00:41:49,799 --> 00:41:51,259 ‐My head is killing me. ‐JIM: This is serious. 947 00:41:51,259 --> 00:41:53,011 SEGALA: I think it's time to go to the hospital. 948 00:41:53,011 --> 00:41:55,013 BRANDON: I wanted to get out here as soon as I could. 949 00:41:55,013 --> 00:41:56,848 Who or what could we be dealing with? 950 00:41:56,848 --> 00:41:59,267 BRYANT: There is something of significant size down there. 951 00:41:59,267 --> 00:42:00,810 ‐JIM: Is it saucer‐shaped? ‐Yes. 952 00:42:00,810 --> 00:42:02,353 TRAVIS: Let's dig it up. 953 00:42:02,353 --> 00:42:03,688 ‐BRYANT: Look at that. ‐THOMAS: What is that? 954 00:42:03,688 --> 00:42:05,023 SEGALA: Why is that rocking like that? 955 00:42:05,023 --> 00:42:06,524 ‐TRAVIS: Oh! ‐(cows mooing) 956 00:42:06,524 --> 00:42:08,568 What we saw tonight was real. 957 00:42:08,568 --> 00:42:11,112 CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY A+E NETWORKS