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Look at that jumping. Look‐it,
it is going nuts.
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Radiation spikes keep occurring
across the ranch.
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I get my biggest readings
looking up.
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TRAVIS:
It's coming from the sky.
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The measurements lead us
to a spot one mile high.
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Ignition.
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The team and I sent up rockets
to try and identify the source.
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‐We got something. Hold on.
‐Look, look, look!
‐What is that?
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TRAVIS:
That wasn't a plane.
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‐Oh, there it is again!
‐There it is again!
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‐It's still in the same spot!
‐Right there.
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TRAVIS: Let's look
at the surveillance footage
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and see if there's
something in it.
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There it is. We saw a UFO.
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NARRATOR:
There is a ranch
in Northern Utah.
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It is considered the epicenter
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of the strangest and most
disturbing phenomena on Earth:
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animal mutilations,
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bizarre UFO sightings
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and unusual energies that have
proven harmful to humans.
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For 20 years,
the federal government
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tried to find answers
and failed.
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Now a new team
of dedicated scientists,
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researchers and experts
has taken over.
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They are determined to solve
the mystery and reveal...
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...The Secret
of Skinwalker Ranch.
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(insects chirping)
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(bird warbling in distance)
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(dog barking)
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TRAVIS:
Gol' dang it, William.
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What are you barking at?
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So, William just woke me up.
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It's, like, 4:51 a. m.
in the morning,
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and he's barking like crazy,
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and he took off running
out across the field.
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I'm gonna go see
if I can see what it was.
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(unlocking door)
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(sighs)
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All right, William,
what are you barking at?
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For the past few days,
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I've been staying overnight
on the ranch.
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That way, I can catch strange
things as they're happening,
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but I wasn't expecting
those things to happen so soon.
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Sounds like there's something
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just screeching
in the background.
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(distant, rhythmic crackling)
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I... I don't know what that is,
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but I'm gonna go look
on the spectrum analyzer
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and see if maybe...
maybe it's something on it.
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Maybe... this sound
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has something to do
with the crazy microwave signals
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we've been seeing.
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(sighs)
Turn this computer on.
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Um...
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All right,
let's turn this thing on.
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(low, electronic crackling)
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What is that?
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I'm not sure what I'm seeing.
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Wow!
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I mean, the‐the... there's
a signal oscillating up and down
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between, like,
20‐something meg...
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26‐ish megahertz
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all the way up to two gigahertz.
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This is crazy.
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I'm getting
a huge and constant level
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of radio waves across the
entire frequency spectral band.
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It's like turning on a radio
and having every single station
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playing the exact same song
at the exact same level.
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Now, if I move it across,
look at the signal.
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It's extremely sinusoidal,
and it has a lot of structure.
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I've never seen
anything like it.
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It just keeps on going
all the way across the spectrum.
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Wow!
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That's just insane.
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I don't... I don't know
what to think about this.
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I've never seen anything
like it in my life.
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I called you guys here 'cause
I wanted to talk to you about
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what happened to me
this morning.
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You know, at, uh, 4:51,
William woke me up barking,
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and I went outside
to see if I could figure out
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what he was barking at, and‐and
I hear off in the distance
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this weird "wah, wah, wah."
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So I figured I'd go in and look
on the spectrum analyzer,
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and I'm seeing all these
signals, from the microwave band
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all the way down past
the ham bands at 35 megahertz.
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Now, to do that, it would be...
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I don't even know
how we would do that.
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That's...
it's‐it's almost impossible.
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Since I've been here
with the team
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investigating Skinwalker Ranc,
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a lot of strange
and bizarre things
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have been happening.
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‐Look, look. Did you see that?
‐What is that?
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We've seen strange lights
and glowing effects
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coming off the mesa.
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My head is hurting bad.
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Well, let's get you
the heck out of here, man.
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We've had people
suddenly getting lightheaded
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or, in the case
of Tom Winterton,
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getting severe pain
and swelling in their scalp.
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Look‐it, it's going nuts.
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We've discovered that dangerous
levels of transient radiation
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are coming from an area
about a mile above the ranch.
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It's coming from up there.
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And when we tried
to investigate it
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with a weather balloon, it just
disappeared without a trace.
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‐Where the hell is it?
‐Oh, wow.
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And then, just one week ago...
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‐Ignition.
‐...we launched a series
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of rockets
up into that same spot...
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‐Look, look, look.
‐What is that?
‐...and suddenly...
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‐There it is again!
‐...the entire team
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witnessed two UFOs,
clear as day.
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THOMAS:
It's gone.
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So, here's one thing
that it could possibly mean.
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This might sound crazy,
but what if the only way
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to explain
all these things is...
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...with a wormhole?
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Now, although the existence
of wormholes
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hasn't been proven yet,
Albert Einstein theorized
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that they do exist,
and assuming you have
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a massive amount of energy
to cause one,
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they could connect
two different points
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in space and time.
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I know it's a far‐fetched idea,
but it's about the only thing
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that I can think of that could
be responsible for everything
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that's been reported
to have happened up here.
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So, imagine you've got...
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a bowl...
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that's the Uinta Basin.
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‐Okay.
‐And it's roughly...
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70 miles...
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in diameter across, right?
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Well, and it's gonna focus
like this big satellite dish.
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Whatever energy hits it,
it's gonna be focused back up
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to a single point.
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So, what does that mean?
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Is this the spot where
something weird is happening,
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where all this energy
is being created
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where there was events
happening?
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Are you thinking
of this location
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as‐as a place where the energy
is emanating from
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or a place
where it's being harvested?
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TRAVIS:
That's a good question.
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What if the Uinta Basin‐‐
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it's got jaggies and things
in it‐‐
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it could be looking like a lens,
and the source
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could be beneath it,
and it could be underground
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from the center of the Earth
coming up
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and then being focused
to a point.
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But the point is,
there is a bunch of energy
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being focused
into a single, tiny spot.
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And the question is:
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Is this crazy signal
we're seeing...
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doing that?
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Is it creating
some type of event
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that is something like Einstein,
you know, theor...
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was theorizing, and then...
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is like you see
in science‐fiction movies?
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So, in other words,
what we're saying is that
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to us, standing here, this
could look like an orb to us.
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Or it could look like
a portal to us.
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We have all these
crazy gamma and neutrons.
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It could also create
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some of the weird other
RF signals that we're seeing.
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That's a really good point.
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‐Yeah.
‐Yeah.
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In 2016,
I purchased Skinwalker Ranch
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from Robert Bigelow.
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Prior to transfer
of ownership,
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Bigelow cautioned me that
we were dealing with forces
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that are very powerful,
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that are not easily understood
or characterized.
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There are amazing stories
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claiming that one of the most
interesting observations
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made by not only
Bigelow's team but others
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is the presence of portals
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that have appeared
in the area of the homesteads.
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Literally midair,
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they've seen truly a window
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into what appeared to be
another world‐‐
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other skylines
or other landscapes
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that they could see
through those portals
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that‐that are difficult
to describe.
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You realize how...
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‐outlandish this whole thing...
‐It sounds crazy and nuts.
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Absolutely crazy and nuts,
and this is the only theory
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‐we've come up with yet.
‐That encompasses all of...
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That‐that‐that everything
we've measured, heard, seen,
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stories, craziness,
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it all can be tied
into this explanation.
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But it's interesting that we've
got at least a hypothesis.
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Energy's coming from the Earth,
and it's getting focused
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‐to a spot up there, but...
‐Yeah.
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...a hypothesis
isn't worth anything
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unless you can create
an experiment
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to test that hypothesis.
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So we understand the hypothesis.
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I think we go and figure out
if the energy source
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may be coming
from inside the Earth.
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That's here
under Skinwalker Ranch.
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We should go and see
if we can measure
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these weird signals down there.
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We need to do
ground‐penetrating radar.
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We've got to do resistivity
measurements out in the field.
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Now, there's
an experiment we could do.
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Yeah. It gives us
a place to start looking.
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TRAVIS:
So maybe that's it.
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Maybe the tremendous
energy source
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we would have to have
to produce this portal effect
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is located deep underground.
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That would validate
what Eric suspected all along.
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All right, so I say we quit
talking about it,
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and then we get up
and go start figuring out
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‐what we got to do to do it.
‐I agree.
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‐All right, let's do this.
‐Okay, cool.
‐Okay.
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TRAVIS: Because we don't know
if the strange radiation surges
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we've been getting are coming
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from high above the ranch
or below it,
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we've invited a team of experts
to come up here
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and conduct a series
of noninvasive tests.
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‐How's it going?
‐Good. How are you?
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‐Good.
‐That way,
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if there really is
something dangerous
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or life‐threatening
underground,
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we might be able to find out
what it is
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before we start digging.
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We haven't done experiments yet
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to look beneath the surface.
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‐Okay.
‐So, we've been doing
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some measurements
with these signals
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that we've been picking up,
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and we've kind of triangulated
a few hot spots,
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and this is the starting line.
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And anywhere there's a roadway,
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flat surface along all the way
from the gate on the east end
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to the fence on the west end,
just start mapping it out.
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Then we'll go from there
to the mesa,
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and then maybe out into the
field and around the homesteads.
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Okay.
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Since there is so much
varied area
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of Skinwalker Ranch to cover,
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we decided to use
two different methods
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to search below the surface.
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One is GPR,
or ground‐penetrating radar,
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which works by sending
radio waves down into the earth
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that will bounce off of any
solid objects or structures.
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And soil resistivity,
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which does pretty much
the same thing,
251
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but it uses metal stakes
and wires
252
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to send electrical currents
down into the ground.
253
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So, what we should do
is kind of divide and conquer.
254
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I think, uh,
half of us will work
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on the ground‐penetrating radar,
and the other half
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will do the resistivity
measurements.
257
00:11:18,386 --> 00:11:20,263
Truck's right here,
it's a good place to start.
258
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So just pull the equipment out,
and let's‐let's just get going.
259
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‐All right, sounds good.
‐Let's get her out.
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‐Let's get to it.
‐ERIK: Here on the ranch,
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00:11:26,519 --> 00:11:30,732
we have seen a correlation
between digging activities
262
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and some injuries
to individuals.
263
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So I've taken the position
264
00:11:35,028 --> 00:11:36,863
that invasive activities
like digging
265
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should be first justified
by less invasive methods.
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Come on back. Ho, ho, ho.
267
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ERIK:
A good example of that
is the GPR survey
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and the resistivity
measurements.
269
00:11:48,041 --> 00:11:51,544
Those are the kinds of things
that put exercises like digging
270
00:11:51,544 --> 00:11:54,297
or drilling
on a more firm foundation.
271
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Particularly in view
of the fact that human safety
272
00:11:58,551 --> 00:12:02,472
and life is held in the balance.
273
00:12:02,472 --> 00:12:05,058
We've got everything loaded to
do the resistivity measurements.
274
00:12:05,058 --> 00:12:07,560
So, uh, why don't we take it
over there, and you guys
275
00:12:07,560 --> 00:12:09,229
are gonna continue
with the GPR, right?
276
00:12:09,229 --> 00:12:10,563
‐Correct.
‐All right.
277
00:12:10,563 --> 00:12:12,232
I gave them the flags.
Mark the spots
278
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if you find anything weird.
279
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All right. Let's load up.
280
00:12:14,567 --> 00:12:15,777
‐Sounds good.
‐Let's roll.
281
00:12:15,777 --> 00:12:17,445
I got shotgun.
282
00:12:21,074 --> 00:12:23,243
PHIL:
So, guys,
what we'll be doing now
283
00:12:23,243 --> 00:12:24,953
is we're gonna be pulling this.
284
00:12:24,953 --> 00:12:27,080
Uh, this is our GX160.
285
00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,791
we're gonna be pulling it
behind this ATV.
286
00:12:29,791 --> 00:12:32,377
And we'll figure out
a suitable way to pull that.
287
00:12:32,377 --> 00:12:34,629
I think I've got an idea
of how we can do it
288
00:12:34,629 --> 00:12:36,256
‐so it doesn't slide around.
‐Right.
289
00:12:36,256 --> 00:12:39,425
Okay, and then we'll use
the dual‐frequency system
290
00:12:39,425 --> 00:12:41,636
to do the homestead work.
291
00:12:41,636 --> 00:12:43,930
‐Sounds great.
‐Cool. All right.
292
00:12:43,930 --> 00:12:47,642
What we're going to do
is pull this latch up.
293
00:12:47,642 --> 00:12:53,147
And then what we'll do here
is we've got two power buttons.
294
00:12:53,147 --> 00:12:55,817
We've got a power button
on the monitor,
295
00:12:55,817 --> 00:12:58,319
and we have one down here
on the antenna,
296
00:12:58,319 --> 00:13:01,614
and that will fire
the system up.
297
00:13:06,119 --> 00:13:08,454
PHIL:
Oh, my gosh.
298
00:13:08,454 --> 00:13:12,250
This was fully charged,
so I'm... it's‐it's a mystery.
299
00:13:12,250 --> 00:13:14,085
ERIK:
So, we can't start now?
300
00:13:14,085 --> 00:13:16,129
We actually can't start
with this system.
301
00:13:16,129 --> 00:13:19,007
At least with the‐the battery
this low.
302
00:13:19,007 --> 00:13:21,509
ERIK:
Why would it be down
in the red now?
303
00:13:21,509 --> 00:13:23,344
That's a good question,
because it...
304
00:13:23,344 --> 00:13:25,471
the system has to be on
305
00:13:25,471 --> 00:13:28,558
in order for it to utilize
those lithium‐ion batteries.
306
00:13:30,143 --> 00:13:32,854
Uh, why don't we check
the other system?
307
00:13:32,854 --> 00:13:35,023
It was completely powered, too,
and let's just see
308
00:13:35,023 --> 00:13:37,900
‐what the batteries
look like on that.
‐Yeah that's a good idea.
309
00:13:37,900 --> 00:13:40,069
ERIK:
It's not uncommon
that we experience problems
310
00:13:40,069 --> 00:13:43,656
with battery‐powered systems
on this property.
311
00:13:43,656 --> 00:13:45,825
Everything from mobile devices,
including our cell phones,
312
00:13:45,825 --> 00:13:48,828
our tablets, uh,
laptop computers,
313
00:13:48,828 --> 00:13:50,830
audio/video equipment,
314
00:13:50,830 --> 00:13:53,583
have experienced
some kind of an anomaly,
315
00:13:53,583 --> 00:13:57,045
as a result of some influence
that is prevalent on the ranch.
316
00:13:57,045 --> 00:13:59,505
Dude, I will tell
my phone battery just went...
317
00:13:59,505 --> 00:14:01,883
‐(blows raspberry)
‐Your battery's dead
on your phone?
318
00:14:01,883 --> 00:14:03,718
TRAVIS:
Yeah. Your battery's dead, too,
ain't it?
319
00:14:03,718 --> 00:14:06,179
It shut off.
320
00:14:06,179 --> 00:14:08,264
‐Welcome to Skinwalker Ranch,
right?
‐Right.
321
00:14:08,264 --> 00:14:11,851
I completely charged
these four batteries
322
00:14:11,851 --> 00:14:15,021
last evening,
and now they're into the...
323
00:14:15,021 --> 00:14:16,522
to the yellow section.
324
00:14:18,024 --> 00:14:19,776
ERIK:
When have you seen that before?
325
00:14:19,776 --> 00:14:21,986
I, quite frankly,
have not seen that before.
326
00:14:24,030 --> 00:14:26,157
ERIK:
Hey, Bryant?
Come here, check this out.
327
00:14:26,157 --> 00:14:27,950
So, Phil, would you like
to explain what you just...
328
00:14:27,950 --> 00:14:29,702
Right, we were getting
some highly unusual
329
00:14:29,702 --> 00:14:31,287
battery level there.
330
00:14:31,287 --> 00:14:33,706
Uh, we should be seeing
full power there,
331
00:14:33,706 --> 00:14:35,458
and we're seeing
about 50%, so...
332
00:14:35,458 --> 00:14:38,377
BRYANT:
It's another damn battery
that's getting trashed.
333
00:14:38,377 --> 00:14:40,463
I guess we'll just
keep an eye on it.
334
00:14:40,463 --> 00:14:43,049
I guess you go
until it goes off.
335
00:14:43,049 --> 00:14:44,842
‐All right.
‐Yep.
336
00:14:44,842 --> 00:14:48,387
ERIK:
We've decided
to proceed by dragging
337
00:14:48,387 --> 00:14:51,224
one of the instruments
behind the UTV.
338
00:14:51,224 --> 00:14:54,811
So, what I did is I ran
a wire underneath here,
339
00:14:54,811 --> 00:14:57,688
attached to the body,
to hold this tight.
340
00:14:57,688 --> 00:14:59,899
‐PHIL: Looks very solid to me.
‐All right.
341
00:14:59,899 --> 00:15:01,651
‐Let's go drag this thing.
‐ERIK: Yeah?
342
00:15:03,569 --> 00:15:05,905
Just want you to see it.
343
00:15:05,905 --> 00:15:07,615
‐ERIK: What is it doing?
‐I don't know.
344
00:15:07,615 --> 00:15:09,283
It's just been...
it's just been doing this
345
00:15:09,283 --> 00:15:10,785
for the last, you know,
couple minutes.
346
00:15:10,785 --> 00:15:12,870
I just ran up here
so you could see it.
347
00:15:12,870 --> 00:15:15,581
It was in my contacts, it tried
calling a couple of people,
348
00:15:15,581 --> 00:15:18,417
um, and then it's been
messing around in my camera
349
00:15:18,417 --> 00:15:20,086
the last couple minutes.
350
00:15:20,086 --> 00:15:23,089
‐When did this start?
‐About two, three minutes ago.
351
00:15:24,966 --> 00:15:26,884
ERIK:
It's as if someone
was pushing the buttons
352
00:15:26,884 --> 00:15:28,594
and, uh, switching
between applications
353
00:15:28,594 --> 00:15:31,430
and sending messages
and making phone calls
354
00:15:31,430 --> 00:15:33,474
as fast as anyone
could possibly do it.
355
00:15:33,474 --> 00:15:35,643
Dude, that is crazy.
356
00:15:35,643 --> 00:15:37,687
(laughing)
357
00:15:39,981 --> 00:15:43,317
We're laughing at it, but
I'm not sure that we should be.
358
00:15:49,490 --> 00:15:52,493
TRAVIS: While Erik and Dragon
are working with Phil Oviatt
359
00:15:52,493 --> 00:15:55,663
to run GPR from the command
center to the old homesteads,
360
00:15:55,663 --> 00:15:58,624
Jim, Tom and I are heading out
with Zach Zyla
361
00:15:58,624 --> 00:16:00,668
to do a soil resistivity survey.
362
00:16:00,668 --> 00:16:05,631
So, Zach, we're interested
in this field out here.
363
00:16:05,631 --> 00:16:08,634
There's some rumors
and stories and myths
364
00:16:08,634 --> 00:16:10,469
and all sorts of things.
365
00:16:10,469 --> 00:16:14,098
There might be
underground facilities
366
00:16:14,098 --> 00:16:17,685
or bases or other stuff
inside this field out here.
367
00:16:17,685 --> 00:16:18,978
‐ZACH: Yep.
‐So, if there's something
368
00:16:18,978 --> 00:16:21,314
besides a field in it,
let us know.
369
00:16:21,314 --> 00:16:23,274
ZACH:
All right.
370
00:16:23,274 --> 00:16:25,318
TRAVIS:
All right, so what do we
need to do to get started?
371
00:16:25,318 --> 00:16:27,320
ZACH:
All right, well let's, uh,
get the gear out of the truck
372
00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:28,696
and, uh, start
laying out the lines.
373
00:16:28,696 --> 00:16:30,823
All right.
374
00:16:30,823 --> 00:16:32,033
All right, so what goes first?
375
00:16:32,033 --> 00:16:33,743
ZACH:
So, every six feet, we're gonna
376
00:16:33,743 --> 00:16:35,328
‐place one of these
into the ground.
‐All right.
377
00:16:35,328 --> 00:16:36,662
And then you're gonna start.
378
00:16:36,662 --> 00:16:38,247
And you're gonna want
to pound it in
379
00:16:38,247 --> 00:16:39,332
about three‐quarters
of the way
380
00:16:39,332 --> 00:16:40,875
so we get good contact
into the ground.
381
00:16:40,875 --> 00:16:42,335
‐TRAVIS: All right.
‐Next,
382
00:16:42,335 --> 00:16:44,253
you're gonna take one of these
connector cables
383
00:16:44,253 --> 00:16:46,589
and connect it to the base.
384
00:16:46,589 --> 00:16:49,342
And we're gonna keep moving it
along all the way to the end.
385
00:16:49,342 --> 00:16:51,802
You know what, you drive stakes,
I'll clip wires. How's that?
386
00:16:51,802 --> 00:16:53,596
SEGALA:
I could do that.
387
00:17:00,937 --> 00:17:03,522
ZACH:
All right,
so let me get started.
388
00:17:03,522 --> 00:17:06,359
How quick will it take us
to actually see something, Zach?
389
00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,027
Hopefully, not more
than about ten minutes.
390
00:17:08,027 --> 00:17:09,028
Okay.
391
00:17:09,028 --> 00:17:10,363
ZACH:
All right.
392
00:17:10,363 --> 00:17:11,530
The line is hot,
393
00:17:11,530 --> 00:17:13,032
so everyone please be careful.
394
00:17:13,032 --> 00:17:14,367
It's about to start measuring,
and hopefully
395
00:17:14,367 --> 00:17:15,701
we can get some, uh, good data.
396
00:17:15,701 --> 00:17:16,911
All right, well, good.
397
00:17:16,911 --> 00:17:18,496
Uh, I guess we just wait.
398
00:17:22,250 --> 00:17:24,877
ERIK: Am I holding a speed
that you like there?
399
00:17:24,877 --> 00:17:26,921
‐PHIL: Yeah, you're good.
‐Okay.
400
00:17:28,214 --> 00:17:29,924
It's gonna get
a little bumpy here.
401
00:17:29,924 --> 00:17:31,759
BRYANT:
Yeah, I think it goes
without saying
402
00:17:31,759 --> 00:17:33,386
just be careful
going through the dips.
403
00:17:33,386 --> 00:17:35,263
ERIK:
Yeah.
404
00:17:35,263 --> 00:17:37,598
That thing works like a champ.
405
00:17:37,598 --> 00:17:40,017
It does.
406
00:17:42,395 --> 00:17:44,480
Well, I'm anxious
to get up by the homestead.
407
00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,232
‐Well, we're just about...
‐I know, I know,
408
00:17:46,232 --> 00:17:47,733
we're getting close.
409
00:17:52,029 --> 00:17:53,614
What was that?
410
00:17:53,614 --> 00:17:56,242
PHIL:
I don't know.
411
00:17:56,242 --> 00:17:58,578
Could be...
412
00:17:58,578 --> 00:18:00,580
I don't know what that is.
413
00:18:00,580 --> 00:18:03,416
I mean, we certainly see
a difference
414
00:18:03,416 --> 00:18:05,418
than this garbage
we've been seeing the whole way.
415
00:18:05,418 --> 00:18:06,711
‐BRYANT: Right.
‐ERIK: Yeah, yeah.
416
00:18:06,711 --> 00:18:08,504
‐That is unusual.
‐Yeah, it is.
417
00:18:08,504 --> 00:18:10,756
ERIK: So, as we're dragging
the device behind us,
418
00:18:10,756 --> 00:18:12,925
Phil noticed
that there was a structure.
419
00:18:12,925 --> 00:18:14,677
Could have been
something mundane.
420
00:18:14,677 --> 00:18:17,054
Could have something to do with
the utilities on the property.
421
00:18:17,054 --> 00:18:19,932
So, for Phil's benefit,
422
00:18:19,932 --> 00:18:22,602
‐you see that roof over there?
‐Yes.
423
00:18:22,602 --> 00:18:25,438
BRYANT:
Right in this grove of trees
up on the left.
424
00:18:25,438 --> 00:18:27,273
ERIK:
We call it Homestead Number Two.
425
00:18:27,273 --> 00:18:29,233
PHIL:
Okay, got it, got it.
426
00:18:30,651 --> 00:18:32,737
Now, uh,
look at this right here.
427
00:18:32,737 --> 00:18:33,779
ERIK:
Okay.
428
00:18:33,779 --> 00:18:35,990
Whoa! I see that, I see that.
429
00:18:35,990 --> 00:18:38,284
How do you interpret that...
that feature?
430
00:18:38,284 --> 00:18:40,620
PHIL:
Well, it looks like
a dome feature.
431
00:18:40,620 --> 00:18:44,123
ERIK:
Then we see another
interesting anomaly
432
00:18:44,123 --> 00:18:45,958
in the Homestead Two area,
433
00:18:45,958 --> 00:18:49,128
and we don't know
what the origin of those...
434
00:18:49,128 --> 00:18:51,297
structures really is.
435
00:18:51,297 --> 00:18:52,340
Look.
436
00:18:52,340 --> 00:18:53,758
Oh, wow!
437
00:18:53,758 --> 00:18:56,344
‐What‐what does this?
‐I cannot tell you
438
00:18:56,344 --> 00:18:58,554
what's causing that.
Man, it could be...
439
00:18:58,554 --> 00:19:01,724
it could be something buried,
you know, metal.
440
00:19:01,724 --> 00:19:03,517
‐Really?
‐Yes.
441
00:19:11,150 --> 00:19:14,445
PHIL: All right,
let's halt the vehicle. I...
442
00:19:14,445 --> 00:19:16,530
‐Another dome, you think?
‐Another dome.
443
00:19:16,530 --> 00:19:17,990
All right.
444
00:19:17,990 --> 00:19:19,950
PHIL: I'm looking laterally
in the data,
445
00:19:19,950 --> 00:19:22,161
‐Uh‐huh.
‐and it's been fairly consistent
446
00:19:22,161 --> 00:19:24,246
‐through this whole area,
‐Uh‐huh.
447
00:19:24,246 --> 00:19:26,499
except we've seen features at...
448
00:19:26,499 --> 00:19:28,584
several different depths.
449
00:19:28,584 --> 00:19:30,086
But you say it could just be
450
00:19:30,086 --> 00:19:31,504
‐a geological feature?
‐It could be,
451
00:19:31,504 --> 00:19:33,464
but it‐it...
doesn't look like it to me.
452
00:19:33,464 --> 00:19:36,008
It looks anomalous.
453
00:19:36,008 --> 00:19:37,718
We'll see
if we can duplicate that
454
00:19:37,718 --> 00:19:39,595
‐on the way back.
‐Okay.
455
00:19:39,595 --> 00:19:41,055
It'll be interesting
to have a look
456
00:19:41,055 --> 00:19:42,390
‐at all of these.
‐Sure. Okay.
457
00:19:42,390 --> 00:19:44,308
‐Every one of the patterns.
‐Okay.
458
00:19:44,308 --> 00:19:47,228
You want to reshoot it
all the way back?
459
00:19:47,228 --> 00:19:49,939
‐Right. Just to‐to verify
what we've seen.
‐Okay.
460
00:19:49,939 --> 00:19:53,734
You know, I was really excited
just to get any data at all.
461
00:19:53,734 --> 00:19:55,569
You know, when we're talking
about the possibility
462
00:19:55,569 --> 00:19:57,446
of metal structure,
of course it's very exciting.
463
00:19:57,446 --> 00:19:59,865
But we need to go back
in the other direction
464
00:19:59,865 --> 00:20:02,159
to verify that we're not
just seeing some artifact
465
00:20:02,159 --> 00:20:03,911
but that what
we're seeing is real.
466
00:20:05,955 --> 00:20:09,583
BRYANT:
So, right here is one of
the domes we measured.
467
00:20:09,583 --> 00:20:11,836
‐Oh, yeah.
‐It's not quite as evident
468
00:20:11,836 --> 00:20:13,713
as it was.
469
00:20:15,172 --> 00:20:17,758
But you can sure see it.
470
00:20:17,758 --> 00:20:19,635
And we had another one
of those up here, too.
471
00:20:19,635 --> 00:20:20,678
ERIK:
That's right.
472
00:20:20,678 --> 00:20:23,639
‐Okay.
‐Uh... yeah.
473
00:20:23,639 --> 00:20:25,057
‐There it comes. There it is.
‐You seeing it?
474
00:20:25,057 --> 00:20:27,184
There it is. Oh, my gosh.
475
00:20:27,184 --> 00:20:29,145
‐That‐that's exactly
what we saw before.
‐Okay.
476
00:20:29,145 --> 00:20:30,479
‐Perfect.
‐Very distinct.
477
00:20:30,479 --> 00:20:32,273
ERIK:
It's always exciting
478
00:20:32,273 --> 00:20:34,734
when you have anomalous data
and you go back and take it
479
00:20:34,734 --> 00:20:36,944
a second time,
and you get the same thing.
480
00:20:36,944 --> 00:20:38,988
And that's
exactly what we've seen.
481
00:20:38,988 --> 00:20:43,033
We're seeing very interesting
multilayer structures
482
00:20:43,033 --> 00:20:46,495
at depths of anywhere from
eight feet below the surface
483
00:20:46,495 --> 00:20:49,749
to 24, 25 feet
below the surface.
484
00:20:50,708 --> 00:20:53,335
PHIL:
All right.
485
00:20:53,335 --> 00:20:56,130
Stop right here, Erik.
486
00:20:56,130 --> 00:20:57,423
(engine shuts off)
487
00:20:57,423 --> 00:20:59,592
‐Interesting.
‐Oh, wow.
488
00:21:01,427 --> 00:21:04,180
‐I can see a couple
of parallel features right here.
‐Uh‐huh.
489
00:21:04,180 --> 00:21:06,474
We saw this in both directions.
490
00:21:06,474 --> 00:21:09,143
I‐I mean, you may be seeing
the top and the base
491
00:21:09,143 --> 00:21:10,644
of a possible tunnel.
492
00:21:10,644 --> 00:21:13,063
And it opens up as you move
this direction.
493
00:21:13,063 --> 00:21:17,443
So, we're looking at something
quite large in here.
494
00:21:17,443 --> 00:21:20,696
Oh, wow. I hate to point it out,
but, you know, this is exactly
495
00:21:20,696 --> 00:21:22,323
where we were
when we had the difficulty
496
00:21:22,323 --> 00:21:24,158
with the drone survey.
497
00:21:24,158 --> 00:21:25,701
‐So, let's get going.
‐BRYANT: Yeah.
498
00:21:25,701 --> 00:21:28,037
ERIK: This is an area
where we did try
499
00:21:28,037 --> 00:21:29,205
drone thermography
measurements,
500
00:21:29,205 --> 00:21:31,040
but we were not successful,
501
00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,084
due to some mysterious
electromagnetic interference.
502
00:21:34,084 --> 00:21:36,420
DERRICK:
No connection.
503
00:21:36,420 --> 00:21:40,049
We are in one
of the most interesting
504
00:21:40,049 --> 00:21:43,093
and notorious regions
of the ranch.
505
00:21:43,093 --> 00:21:44,637
This is Homestead Two.
506
00:21:44,637 --> 00:21:46,430
I'm wondering
if this is coincidence.
507
00:21:46,430 --> 00:21:47,556
Clear as mud, Erik.
508
00:21:47,556 --> 00:21:49,308
It's what this place is.
509
00:21:54,396 --> 00:21:56,398
ZACHARY:
Here we go.
510
00:21:56,398 --> 00:21:57,942
So, this is the raw data
511
00:21:57,942 --> 00:21:59,944
plotted over, you know,
a 2‐D grid.
512
00:21:59,944 --> 00:22:01,862
So, blues are going to be
more conductive,
513
00:22:01,862 --> 00:22:03,781
and reds are going to be
more resistive.
514
00:22:03,781 --> 00:22:05,616
TRAVIS: More resistive
might mean a hole.
515
00:22:05,616 --> 00:22:07,076
ZACHARY:
Yep.
516
00:22:07,076 --> 00:22:10,079
‐So, that‐that could be a cave?
‐Potentially.
517
00:22:10,079 --> 00:22:12,665
We really need
to post‐process it,
518
00:22:12,665 --> 00:22:14,041
um, and run it through
an inversion
519
00:22:14,041 --> 00:22:15,709
so that we can really say
what's going on.
520
00:22:15,709 --> 00:22:16,961
TRAVIS:
Once you do the post‐processing,
521
00:22:16,961 --> 00:22:18,629
‐then we'll know more about it.
‐Yep.
522
00:22:18,629 --> 00:22:21,423
ERIK (over radio):
Hey, Tom, you copy?
523
00:22:21,423 --> 00:22:23,592
THOMAS:
Yeah, go ahead.
524
00:22:23,592 --> 00:22:26,053
ERIK:
Hey, we're getting some
really interesting readings
525
00:22:26,053 --> 00:22:28,138
out here at Homestead Two.
526
00:22:28,138 --> 00:22:29,765
I'd like to ask you to just
drop whatever you're doing
527
00:22:29,765 --> 00:22:31,725
and bring some
of Phil's extra gear out here
528
00:22:31,725 --> 00:22:34,103
so we can take
a closer look at it.
529
00:22:34,103 --> 00:22:35,896
THOMAS:
Okay, I'll grab the guys,
530
00:22:35,896 --> 00:22:37,273
and we'll grab the equipment
and head that way.
531
00:22:37,273 --> 00:22:38,816
ERIK:
Copy.
532
00:22:38,816 --> 00:22:40,693
Okay, just leave this,
and we'll just head over?
533
00:22:40,693 --> 00:22:41,902
Yeah, we'll...
I'll pack this in,
534
00:22:41,902 --> 00:22:43,237
and you guys can head over now.
535
00:22:44,405 --> 00:22:45,990
I don't know, man.
536
00:22:45,990 --> 00:22:47,783
‐It‐it's...
‐Interesting area.
537
00:22:47,783 --> 00:22:49,285
It's too much of a coincidence
all the time.
538
00:22:49,285 --> 00:22:50,411
Mm‐hmm.
539
00:22:50,411 --> 00:22:51,912
BRYANT:
There they are.
540
00:22:51,912 --> 00:22:53,539
That was quick.
541
00:22:55,416 --> 00:22:56,542
See what they got.
542
00:22:57,918 --> 00:23:00,087
‐What's up, fellas?
‐TRAVIS: Hey.
543
00:23:00,087 --> 00:23:01,755
BRYANT:
You said if you come across
544
00:23:01,755 --> 00:23:03,424
anything in‐interesting
or intriguing,
545
00:23:03,424 --> 00:23:05,134
we should call you.
546
00:23:05,134 --> 00:23:07,177
‐Yeah? You find something?
‐So, that's what we did, plus...
547
00:23:07,177 --> 00:23:09,763
We‐we found some dome features,
548
00:23:09,763 --> 00:23:12,433
anywhere from eight to 25 feet,
549
00:23:12,433 --> 00:23:15,436
that are almost parallel
with this structure over here.
550
00:23:15,436 --> 00:23:18,188
When you say "dome,"
are you talking a formation
551
00:23:18,188 --> 00:23:20,733
‐or an opening or what?
‐Yes, like a... like a...
552
00:23:20,733 --> 00:23:22,484
It almost looked
as though there was
553
00:23:22,484 --> 00:23:25,404
the top of the... of a tunnel
and the base of a tunnel.
554
00:23:25,404 --> 00:23:28,324
‐Oh, a tunnel?
‐Yes, and it's interesting
555
00:23:28,324 --> 00:23:30,784
that it's parallel to this
structure right here, as well.
556
00:23:30,784 --> 00:23:32,536
That's why we called you guys.
557
00:23:32,536 --> 00:23:35,205
We wanted you over here and...
and to check this area out.
558
00:23:35,205 --> 00:23:37,041
See if we can see
any correlation.
559
00:23:37,041 --> 00:23:38,876
Does it appear jagged,
or does it appear smooth?
560
00:23:38,876 --> 00:23:39,919
PHIL:
It's smooth.
561
00:23:39,919 --> 00:23:41,503
So... so, we're‐we're seeing
562
00:23:41,503 --> 00:23:44,173
almost a domal‐type feature,
and then it pinches
563
00:23:44,173 --> 00:23:45,966
into a... almost a point.
564
00:23:47,176 --> 00:23:48,385
BRYANT:
It looks more like
565
00:23:48,385 --> 00:23:50,095
a hollow opening than anything.
566
00:23:50,095 --> 00:23:52,723
What I would suggest is to...
is to scan this area
567
00:23:52,723 --> 00:23:54,058
with the wide range
568
00:23:54,058 --> 00:23:55,517
and see if we see
any correlation
569
00:23:55,517 --> 00:23:57,019
between the... between this area
570
00:23:57,019 --> 00:23:58,812
‐and that area.
‐TRAVIS: Yeah.
571
00:23:58,812 --> 00:24:00,773
Well, let's get the equipment
out and let's do it, right?
572
00:24:00,773 --> 00:24:02,942
‐Grab the wheels.
‐You got it?
‐I got it.
573
00:24:02,942 --> 00:24:04,526
SEGALA:
For a very long time,
574
00:24:04,526 --> 00:24:06,278
there's been a lot
of strange things
575
00:24:06,278 --> 00:24:07,738
going on at Homestead Two.
576
00:24:07,738 --> 00:24:10,324
And what I want to do
is dig around the place
577
00:24:10,324 --> 00:24:11,909
because I believe
there's a possibility
578
00:24:11,909 --> 00:24:13,911
that there's something unknown
579
00:24:13,911 --> 00:24:16,413
under the ground
that seems to be seeping up
580
00:24:16,413 --> 00:24:17,831
or causing different...
581
00:24:17,831 --> 00:24:20,042
causing different, uh,
phenomena to happen.
582
00:24:20,042 --> 00:24:22,378
‐So, let's turn it on.
‐SEGALA: But there's been
583
00:24:22,378 --> 00:24:25,047
a lot of pushback
on digging on the property.
584
00:24:25,047 --> 00:24:27,591
So, of course, with GPR,
that gives us
585
00:24:27,591 --> 00:24:30,511
an idea of what
might be under there
586
00:24:30,511 --> 00:24:32,054
without really
disturbing the ground
587
00:24:32,054 --> 00:24:34,848
and bringing up anything
that might be toxic underneath.
588
00:24:34,848 --> 00:24:36,684
PHIL:
Okay, we're ready.
589
00:24:36,684 --> 00:24:37,977
BRYANT:
Hey, Phil?
590
00:24:37,977 --> 00:24:39,728
Sorry to interrupt you,
but, I mean, I know
591
00:24:39,728 --> 00:24:41,563
we want to get up
on the mesa and do that.
592
00:24:41,563 --> 00:24:43,148
I mean, we're getting late
in the day,
593
00:24:43,148 --> 00:24:45,234
and I want to make sure
that we utilize all the time
594
00:24:45,234 --> 00:24:48,153
we have with you gentlemen.
Can we split up teams here?
595
00:24:48,153 --> 00:24:51,031
‐Like, Zach go with one of us
and you go with one group?
‐Absolutely.
596
00:24:51,031 --> 00:24:53,033
‐Okay.
‐Yeah, Phil, why don't you
go up to the mesa?
597
00:24:53,033 --> 00:24:54,451
‐Sounds good.
‐You guys okay with that?
598
00:24:54,451 --> 00:24:55,828
‐Yeah, I'm good with that...
‐All right.
599
00:24:55,828 --> 00:24:57,329
...'cause I want to see
what you guys have
600
00:24:57,329 --> 00:24:58,831
‐already seen here, so...
‐That makes sense.
601
00:24:58,831 --> 00:25:00,791
‐Let's take it and...
and get it going.
‐All right.
602
00:25:00,791 --> 00:25:03,460
TRAVIS:
Now that the wide‐range system
has been recharged,
603
00:25:03,460 --> 00:25:07,131
Jim, Zach and I are going to
run GPR scans at Homestead Two.
604
00:25:07,131 --> 00:25:10,259
That's where a lot of very weird
phenomena have been reported.
605
00:25:10,259 --> 00:25:12,594
And while we're doing that,
606
00:25:12,594 --> 00:25:14,555
the rest of the guys
are going to run
607
00:25:14,555 --> 00:25:16,432
some scans
up on top of the mesa.
608
00:25:16,432 --> 00:25:18,183
BRYANT:
Erik loves this mesa.
609
00:25:18,183 --> 00:25:19,309
ERIK:
I do, I guess.
610
00:25:19,309 --> 00:25:21,020
Once I get to the top.
611
00:25:24,606 --> 00:25:26,066
TRAVIS:
Well, so, guys,
612
00:25:26,066 --> 00:25:27,943
what I think is,
if you can get right there,
613
00:25:27,943 --> 00:25:29,653
kind of hug the tree line
and go due south
614
00:25:29,653 --> 00:25:32,364
toward that dead tree...
615
00:25:32,364 --> 00:25:34,742
I think we can go through
over here.
616
00:25:37,494 --> 00:25:39,121
Hug this bush right here
the best you can.
617
00:25:39,121 --> 00:25:42,082
The ground‐penetrating
radar device we're using
618
00:25:42,082 --> 00:25:44,376
was more mobile, so we started
pushing it through the woods
619
00:25:44,376 --> 00:25:45,961
and around the homestead.
620
00:25:45,961 --> 00:25:49,381
Just kind of use the house
as a guide for the line.
621
00:25:49,381 --> 00:25:52,926
And that allows us to do
a much deeper investigation.
622
00:25:52,926 --> 00:25:55,596
That's probably far enough.
623
00:25:55,596 --> 00:25:57,598
‐Yeah.
‐Did you see anything
on that run?
624
00:25:57,598 --> 00:25:59,224
ZACH:
Uh, let me check.
625
00:25:59,224 --> 00:26:01,060
Oh, holy... Look at this.
626
00:26:01,060 --> 00:26:02,686
ZACH:
Oh, wow.
627
00:26:02,686 --> 00:26:03,937
SEGURA:
There's this big...
628
00:26:06,190 --> 00:26:07,524
Oh, wow.
629
00:26:07,524 --> 00:26:09,860
That's crazy.
630
00:26:13,197 --> 00:26:14,990
What this looks like is
anything on that run?
e
631
00:26:14,990 --> 00:26:16,700
ZACH:
Uh, let me check.
632
00:26:16,700 --> 00:26:18,869
‐Oh, holy... Look at this. See?
‐Oh, wow.
633
00:26:18,869 --> 00:26:20,829
TRAVIS: While conducting
a ground‐penetrating
634
00:26:20,829 --> 00:26:22,831
radar test here
at Homestead Two,
635
00:26:22,831 --> 00:26:26,168
Jim, Zach and I have just found
more evidence of some kind
636
00:26:26,168 --> 00:26:29,838
of large object or structure
buried several feet underground.
637
00:26:29,838 --> 00:26:32,424
SEGALA:
So, there's this big
anomaly here.
638
00:26:32,424 --> 00:26:34,009
‐Oh, wow.
‐That's maybe
639
00:26:34,009 --> 00:26:35,969
‐at five feet, four feet?
‐Yeah, it's...
640
00:26:35,969 --> 00:26:37,596
TRAVIS: So, this is
the structure, right?
641
00:26:37,596 --> 00:26:38,806
But look there, right there.
642
00:26:38,806 --> 00:26:40,015
It's like a‐an entrance
643
00:26:40,015 --> 00:26:42,392
or a pipe or something going up.
644
00:26:42,392 --> 00:26:44,103
SEGALA:
It's on the same line
645
00:26:44,103 --> 00:26:45,896
as the well.
646
00:26:45,896 --> 00:26:48,482
TRAVIS:
And who's to say
it's really a well?
647
00:26:48,482 --> 00:26:50,859
Heck, it could be a tunnel
entrance, for all we know.
648
00:26:50,859 --> 00:26:52,861
I'd like to know
what's in this thing.
649
00:26:52,861 --> 00:26:54,279
Don't lift it up.
650
00:26:54,279 --> 00:26:56,740
‐Why not?
‐Because the incident
651
00:26:56,740 --> 00:26:59,827
that happened with Brandon Fugal
was right here.
652
00:26:59,827 --> 00:27:02,204
There was this guy
that came in with him.
653
00:27:02,204 --> 00:27:05,624
He lifted this up, and that's
when he went catatonic.
654
00:27:07,209 --> 00:27:09,419
BRANDON:
Several years ago,
655
00:27:09,419 --> 00:27:12,381
we were escorting
some visitors on the site,
656
00:27:12,381 --> 00:27:14,633
and when we entered
the old homestead area,
657
00:27:14,633 --> 00:27:16,927
we all piled out of the UTV
658
00:27:16,927 --> 00:27:20,889
to circle around the front
of one of the old homesteads.
659
00:27:20,889 --> 00:27:24,893
And I looked around and found
660
00:27:24,893 --> 00:27:27,062
that one of the visitors
was absent.
661
00:27:27,062 --> 00:27:30,107
As I circled around
the back end of the homestead,
662
00:27:30,107 --> 00:27:32,818
I saw this person
663
00:27:32,818 --> 00:27:36,572
fully upright
with his eyes closed.
664
00:27:36,572 --> 00:27:39,324
‐Hey!
‐And as I yelled his name
665
00:27:39,324 --> 00:27:41,410
to somehow get his attention
666
00:27:41,410 --> 00:27:44,121
and see what was happening,
his eyes fluttered open.
667
00:27:44,121 --> 00:27:46,373
He says,
"Well, that was strange."
668
00:27:46,373 --> 00:27:48,000
I said, "Well,
what do you mean?"
669
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:52,170
He says, "I was paralyzed
and then went to sleep.
670
00:27:52,170 --> 00:27:55,132
How long have I been out?"
671
00:27:55,132 --> 00:27:56,967
And I said,
"Well, it's‐it's probably
672
00:27:56,967 --> 00:27:58,844
been about ten minutes."
673
00:27:58,844 --> 00:28:00,846
He was shocked.
674
00:28:09,354 --> 00:28:11,440
‐And he did what now, Jim?
‐He lifted it up.
675
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,484
But I think,
before you open that up
676
00:28:14,484 --> 00:28:18,196
or do anything like that,
I would definitely...
677
00:28:18,196 --> 00:28:19,656
Or maybe not.
678
00:28:19,656 --> 00:28:21,617
TRAVIS:
What the crap is that?
679
00:28:24,286 --> 00:28:26,038
It's filled with something.
680
00:28:26,038 --> 00:28:28,415
All right, well, look, if you
want to look down in there.
681
00:28:28,415 --> 00:28:30,125
It's just filled
with crappy water.
682
00:28:30,125 --> 00:28:32,711
I mean, muddy water or whatever.
Maybe it's a septic tank.
683
00:28:32,711 --> 00:28:35,297
SEGALA:
Seriously polluted.
684
00:28:35,297 --> 00:28:37,299
TRAVIS:
Well, it looks pretty bad.
685
00:28:47,225 --> 00:28:49,227
It stinks, though. Ooh!
686
00:28:49,227 --> 00:28:51,563
So, there's something in there.
687
00:28:55,442 --> 00:28:58,987
You know, I don't know
if I want to say it or not,
688
00:28:58,987 --> 00:29:00,864
but I‐I feel like a,
I don't know,
689
00:29:00,864 --> 00:29:03,158
I've got a little bit of a
headache or something happening.
690
00:29:03,158 --> 00:29:05,744
So, why‐why don't we
get out of here?
691
00:29:05,744 --> 00:29:07,079
Maybe the smell,
maybe some mildew
692
00:29:07,079 --> 00:29:08,372
or mold or something here.
693
00:29:08,372 --> 00:29:10,248
So, let's, uh,
I say let's get back out
694
00:29:10,248 --> 00:29:11,917
to the road
where there's more air flow.
695
00:29:14,586 --> 00:29:18,632
I started getting this headache
and this nausea feeling.
696
00:29:18,632 --> 00:29:21,093
I wasn't sure what it was,
but I realized, you know,
697
00:29:21,093 --> 00:29:22,886
I've got this dosimeter
in my pocket.
698
00:29:22,886 --> 00:29:25,472
All right, well, maybe we should
699
00:29:25,472 --> 00:29:27,641
check our dosimeters
or whatever.
700
00:29:27,641 --> 00:29:28,976
Yeah.
701
00:29:30,686 --> 00:29:32,521
(beeping)
702
00:29:32,521 --> 00:29:34,564
TRAVIS:
Holy... Mine's beeping.
703
00:29:34,564 --> 00:29:35,899
Your max dose rate's about 120?
704
00:29:35,899 --> 00:29:37,275
Yeah, its 120‐something.
705
00:29:37,275 --> 00:29:39,444
That's pretty high.
That's pretty high.
706
00:29:39,444 --> 00:29:42,030
TRAVIS:
This is really scary.
707
00:29:42,030 --> 00:29:43,907
My dosimeter device,
which measures exposure
708
00:29:43,907 --> 00:29:47,452
to ionizing radiation,
is showing that I just got hit
709
00:29:47,452 --> 00:29:49,454
with 120 millirads per second.
710
00:29:49,454 --> 00:29:51,081
That's like getting 20,000
711
00:29:51,081 --> 00:29:53,458
full‐body X‐ray scans
at an airport,
712
00:29:53,458 --> 00:29:55,085
which is five times more
713
00:29:55,085 --> 00:29:57,212
than the legal limit
allows in a year.
714
00:29:57,212 --> 00:29:59,423
So, I just accumulated
a semi‐dangerous dose.
715
00:29:59,423 --> 00:30:02,092
So, we're reading
the exact same amount of rate,
716
00:30:02,092 --> 00:30:05,012
but this thing accumulated more.
717
00:30:05,012 --> 00:30:07,222
Well, and I was the one
that stood over
718
00:30:07,222 --> 00:30:09,766
‐that hole when we opened it up.
‐Yep.
719
00:30:09,766 --> 00:30:12,769
TRAVIS:
We were just exposed
to ionizing radiation.
720
00:30:12,769 --> 00:30:14,479
‐Wow!
‐Now, I got to tell you that
721
00:30:14,479 --> 00:30:16,398
‐it's not a lethal dose.
‐It's not a lethal dose.
722
00:30:16,398 --> 00:30:18,233
But it's an accumulated dose
that you're not gonna see
723
00:30:18,233 --> 00:30:19,985
out in the middle of nowhere,
guaranteed.
724
00:30:19,985 --> 00:30:21,737
Yep. And, well, and it's enough
that they're saying,
725
00:30:21,737 --> 00:30:23,405
"Hey, it's dangerous.
Get out of that place
726
00:30:23,405 --> 00:30:24,990
‐and don't say in that place"
‐Yeah.
727
00:30:24,990 --> 00:30:29,327
So we need to stop the GPR.
Let's load the stuff up.
728
00:30:29,327 --> 00:30:30,579
‐All right.
‐Cool.
729
00:30:33,165 --> 00:30:35,959
TRAVIS:
What happened at Homestead Two
really shook me up.
730
00:30:35,959 --> 00:30:38,962
And then, the next day,
I noticed weird red marks
731
00:30:38,962 --> 00:30:40,589
on my hand and my head.
732
00:30:40,589 --> 00:30:43,175
I went to my doctor
to get checked out,
733
00:30:43,175 --> 00:30:46,344
and he confirmed
they were radiation burns.
734
00:30:46,344 --> 00:30:49,181
I'm okay now,
but I'm really anxious to get
735
00:30:49,181 --> 00:30:52,059
to the final results
of our GPR scans to find out
736
00:30:52,059 --> 00:30:55,103
if it's something
in the ground that caused this.
737
00:31:02,319 --> 00:31:05,697
PHIL: Okay, we're here to,
uh, discuss the processing
738
00:31:05,697 --> 00:31:08,700
of the GPR data that
we collected out in the field.
739
00:31:08,700 --> 00:31:10,869
Uh, I took a look
at all the data,
740
00:31:10,869 --> 00:31:14,289
and I'm really gonna concentrate
in and around Homestead Two.
741
00:31:14,289 --> 00:31:16,583
So, that's what we're gonna be
looking at on the screen today.
742
00:31:16,583 --> 00:31:19,836
Okay. Well, let's see it.
743
00:31:19,836 --> 00:31:22,547
All right, let's take a look
at the data here.
744
00:31:22,547 --> 00:31:24,883
See, here's where we started
again from west going east.
745
00:31:24,883 --> 00:31:26,927
‐TRAVIS: Right.
‐It's just noisy data.
746
00:31:26,927 --> 00:31:30,680
And now were seeing
these features in more detail.
747
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,100
‐TRAVIS: Oh, wow!
‐ERIK: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
748
00:31:33,100 --> 00:31:35,811
Basically, looks like para...
upside down parabolas.
749
00:31:35,811 --> 00:31:37,395
Right, they're‐they're
hyperbolas.
750
00:31:37,395 --> 00:31:41,858
Now, what creates the hyperbolas
are objects.
751
00:31:41,858 --> 00:31:44,319
A lot of things can cause those.
752
00:31:44,319 --> 00:31:47,906
Uh, boulders can cause
those types of features.
753
00:31:47,906 --> 00:31:50,534
Tunneling can cause
that type of feature.
754
00:31:50,534 --> 00:31:52,619
TRAVIS: Gosh, it goes
all the way as far down
755
00:31:52,619 --> 00:31:53,870
‐as 25, 30 feet.
‐Right.
756
00:31:53,870 --> 00:31:55,580
Well, it's clearly an anomaly.
757
00:31:55,580 --> 00:31:57,249
Yes.
758
00:31:57,249 --> 00:31:59,084
I'll tell you
what it looks like to me.
759
00:32:00,627 --> 00:32:02,170
Look at this.
760
00:32:02,170 --> 00:32:03,547
Here's the top point.
761
00:32:03,547 --> 00:32:04,714
Right there. Right?
762
00:32:04,714 --> 00:32:05,674
Here's another point.
763
00:32:05,674 --> 00:32:07,425
There's one here.
764
00:32:07,425 --> 00:32:10,178
And then you could say maybe
it kind of starts over here.
765
00:32:10,178 --> 00:32:12,180
And so there's
your connecting the dots.
766
00:32:12,180 --> 00:32:14,057
Connect all these peaks,
767
00:32:14,057 --> 00:32:16,309
and it looks to me
like you got a football shape.
768
00:32:16,309 --> 00:32:17,853
Well, give me a pen, then.
769
00:32:17,853 --> 00:32:19,437
All right.
Actually, tear me off
770
00:32:19,437 --> 00:32:21,189
about three more
pieces of paper.
771
00:32:21,189 --> 00:32:24,276
So, there's the spot
for the peak,
772
00:32:24,276 --> 00:32:27,696
probably here,
and down here on the bottom.
773
00:32:27,696 --> 00:32:30,448
It's, like, here, here, here.
774
00:32:30,448 --> 00:32:32,409
There's another one
kind of down here, lower.
775
00:32:32,409 --> 00:32:34,411
So now let's lay it
on the table,
776
00:32:34,411 --> 00:32:36,538
and we'll draw...
we're gonna connect the dots.
777
00:32:38,456 --> 00:32:41,418
All right.
So, guys, if we look,
778
00:32:41,418 --> 00:32:44,045
there's something that has...
779
00:32:44,045 --> 00:32:46,965
surface points.
780
00:32:46,965 --> 00:32:49,551
Something...
781
00:32:49,551 --> 00:32:51,303
along those lines.
782
00:32:52,304 --> 00:32:53,763
BRYANT:
Wow.
783
00:32:53,763 --> 00:32:55,140
TRAVIS:
I marked the high
784
00:32:55,140 --> 00:32:57,184
and the low points
of the parabolas
785
00:32:57,184 --> 00:32:59,227
that we saw on the screen.
786
00:32:59,227 --> 00:33:01,438
And once I connected
all the dots,
787
00:33:01,438 --> 00:33:04,107
the size and shape of
the object we found underground
788
00:33:04,107 --> 00:33:06,818
became clear‐‐
it looked like a giant football
789
00:33:06,818 --> 00:33:08,570
or a saucer.
790
00:33:08,570 --> 00:33:11,448
‐I like the shape of it.
‐BRYANT: And...
791
00:33:11,448 --> 00:33:13,450
it's almost at the start
of Homestead Two
792
00:33:13,450 --> 00:33:15,202
to the end of Homestead Two.
793
00:33:15,202 --> 00:33:17,996
This thing is...
794
00:33:17,996 --> 00:33:19,748
a thousand feet long.
795
00:33:23,251 --> 00:33:26,004
Wow. I wasn't expecting
to see that today.
796
00:33:32,552 --> 00:33:35,805
TRAVIS: What this looks like
is a two‐story facility.
797
00:33:35,805 --> 00:33:38,058
This thing is...
798
00:33:38,058 --> 00:33:39,476
a thousand feet long.
799
00:33:39,476 --> 00:33:40,810
That's huge.
800
00:33:40,810 --> 00:33:42,270
THOMAS:
That's significant.
801
00:33:42,270 --> 00:33:44,064
TRAVIS:
We have a thousand‐foot‐long,
802
00:33:44,064 --> 00:33:45,899
oval‐shaped object
803
00:33:45,899 --> 00:33:48,401
that appears to be buried
underground at Homestead Two.
804
00:33:48,401 --> 00:33:50,654
Now, this is the same place
805
00:33:50,654 --> 00:33:52,364
where a lot
of bizarre happenings
806
00:33:52,364 --> 00:33:55,325
and even UFO sightings have
been reported over the years.
807
00:33:55,325 --> 00:33:57,661
So the question obviously is:
808
00:33:57,661 --> 00:33:59,329
Are they related?
809
00:33:59,329 --> 00:34:00,872
Right here...
810
00:34:00,872 --> 00:34:03,625
that's "X" marks the spot.
811
00:34:03,625 --> 00:34:05,710
That's‐that's, like, 15 feet
below the surface or something.
812
00:34:05,710 --> 00:34:08,380
And we drill into that,
813
00:34:08,380 --> 00:34:12,384
and we'll know, is it rock,
is it metal, is it... whatever.
814
00:34:12,384 --> 00:34:15,387
And so we got to...
we got to dig there.
815
00:34:15,387 --> 00:34:17,347
Or drill, at least,
take a core sample.
816
00:34:17,347 --> 00:34:19,849
Well, you're gonna have to get
Brandon to sign off on that.
817
00:34:19,849 --> 00:34:22,811
‐Well, I‐I understand that.
‐I‐I always get painted as...
818
00:34:22,811 --> 00:34:25,105
the guy that's
the anti‐digging guy,
819
00:34:25,105 --> 00:34:27,399
and look, I'm interested
to know what's there, too,
820
00:34:27,399 --> 00:34:28,984
but at the end of the day,
821
00:34:28,984 --> 00:34:31,194
that was one of Brandon's
big mandates to me.
822
00:34:33,196 --> 00:34:35,740
BRYANT:
Looking at that
interesting shape we found,
823
00:34:35,740 --> 00:34:37,701
the knee‐jerk reaction is
we need to dig
824
00:34:37,701 --> 00:34:39,202
and find out
what that thing is.
825
00:34:39,202 --> 00:34:41,121
It could be amazing
or whatever.
826
00:34:41,121 --> 00:34:43,456
My first reaction is,
"Wait a minute."
827
00:34:43,456 --> 00:34:47,585
We have radiation in the area,
and we don't know what this is,
828
00:34:47,585 --> 00:34:50,422
and you pile that on top
of the whole "don't dig" lore
829
00:34:50,422 --> 00:34:51,798
about this place.
830
00:34:51,798 --> 00:34:53,967
I mean,
Thomas had a major injury
831
00:34:53,967 --> 00:34:56,303
that almost took his life.
832
00:34:56,303 --> 00:34:58,763
Travis was exposed
to radiation.
833
00:34:58,763 --> 00:35:01,266
The last thing I'm gonna do
is just say, "Hey, yeah,
834
00:35:01,266 --> 00:35:03,351
"let's head out there
and start digging up the road
835
00:35:03,351 --> 00:35:04,811
and see what's down there."
836
00:35:04,811 --> 00:35:07,856
I'm extremely sensitive
to what's going on right now,
837
00:35:07,856 --> 00:35:10,317
between what happened to you
the other night
838
00:35:10,317 --> 00:35:11,860
when we were camping again,
839
00:35:11,860 --> 00:35:13,820
what Travis experienced.
840
00:35:13,820 --> 00:35:17,490
Certainly, I don't see the data
the same way you do.
841
00:35:17,490 --> 00:35:19,618
I'd like to see
what your opinion is.
842
00:35:19,618 --> 00:35:21,453
‐I think there's...
‐You're the professional
in this.
843
00:35:21,453 --> 00:35:23,913
‐Right. I think, from what...
‐I don't have an opinion, Jim?
844
00:35:23,913 --> 00:35:27,250
‐Is that what this is?
‐PHIL: I think,
845
00:35:27,250 --> 00:35:30,086
from what I see here,
I would absolutely see this
846
00:35:30,086 --> 00:35:32,839
as being an anomalous area,
is what I would say.
847
00:35:32,839 --> 00:35:34,716
Just being... When you say
"anomalous," different than
848
00:35:34,716 --> 00:35:36,718
‐the rest of the area.
‐Different than the rest
849
00:35:36,718 --> 00:35:38,678
of the area,
that we didn't see, or...
850
00:35:38,678 --> 00:35:41,222
nine‐tenths of the road
that we went down.
851
00:35:41,222 --> 00:35:43,767
Well, I think we take this
to Brandon
852
00:35:43,767 --> 00:35:46,770
and tell him the whole story,
Dragon, and say...
853
00:35:46,770 --> 00:35:48,688
You guys better take it,
'cause apparently,
854
00:35:48,688 --> 00:35:51,232
because I'm not a PhD,
I don't have a (bleep) opinion
855
00:35:51,232 --> 00:35:52,442
at the table.
856
00:35:56,154 --> 00:35:57,906
Look, I care about you guys.
857
00:35:57,906 --> 00:36:00,075
You know, I care about you.
858
00:36:00,075 --> 00:36:02,243
If... if I didn't like you,
I would just say,
859
00:36:02,243 --> 00:36:04,245
"Fine, you know what,
I'll be at the front gate.
860
00:36:04,245 --> 00:36:07,082
You guys go dig. Just keep me
the hell away from this..."
861
00:36:07,082 --> 00:36:10,251
I'm sorry that I kind of
blew up there a little bit,
862
00:36:10,251 --> 00:36:12,295
but it's just
because I'm sensitive,
863
00:36:12,295 --> 00:36:14,214
especially now...
864
00:36:14,214 --> 00:36:17,008
that all this stuff
has started happening.
865
00:36:17,008 --> 00:36:20,053
And I'm sorry,
going back to your analogy,
866
00:36:20,053 --> 00:36:21,805
I don't want to poke
a hornets' nest
867
00:36:21,805 --> 00:36:23,640
that has radioactive hornets
come flying out.
868
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,351
‐I already been stung once
by it, right?
‐Yeah, I know.
869
00:36:26,351 --> 00:36:29,688
To that point, if we're going
down two feet and we're testing,
870
00:36:29,688 --> 00:36:32,482
and two feet and we're testing,
if that is the case,
871
00:36:32,482 --> 00:36:35,527
‐those levels are gonna be
going up, and we can stop.
‐Absolutely.
872
00:36:35,527 --> 00:36:38,154
‐We'll see it every time.
‐And if Brandon
873
00:36:38,154 --> 00:36:41,783
looks at the data and says,
"Okay, I will sign off on this,"
874
00:36:41,783 --> 00:36:43,284
you're good with it,
then, Bryant?
875
00:36:43,284 --> 00:36:44,953
‐Is that what you're saying?
‐He's‐he's my boss.
876
00:36:44,953 --> 00:36:46,621
But I'm‐I'm just trying
to get a read
877
00:36:46,621 --> 00:36:48,206
for where you are personally.
878
00:36:48,206 --> 00:36:51,167
If he signs off on it,
are you comfortable with it?
879
00:36:51,167 --> 00:36:52,794
SEGALA:
'Cause you're ultimately
responsible...
880
00:36:52,794 --> 00:36:54,796
Look, I... like I said,
I just answer to him.
881
00:36:54,796 --> 00:36:57,382
‐No, but you're...
‐So, if that's what
he wants to do, then...
882
00:36:57,382 --> 00:37:00,093
BRYANT:
You know, I had my points,
those guys had their points.
883
00:37:00,093 --> 00:37:01,845
You know, we weren't totally
in agreement,
884
00:37:01,845 --> 00:37:03,763
so it was time
to get on the phone
885
00:37:03,763 --> 00:37:05,306
and get Brandon up to speed
886
00:37:05,306 --> 00:37:07,517
with what we found
and get his take on things.
887
00:37:07,517 --> 00:37:10,395
Zach, Phil, thank you so much
for coming out.
888
00:37:10,395 --> 00:37:12,480
‐These are fantastic data.
‐Thank y'all.
889
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,566
‐Thanks, guys.
‐Thank you.
‐Appreciate it.
890
00:37:14,566 --> 00:37:16,484
TRAVIS:
All right, let's call Brandon
891
00:37:16,484 --> 00:37:19,070
and let Brandon make
the decision.
892
00:37:24,576 --> 00:37:26,995
(phone rings)
893
00:37:26,995 --> 00:37:29,372
‐Hey.
‐BRYANT: Hey, Brandon.
894
00:37:29,372 --> 00:37:31,541
It's, uh,
Bryant and Travis here.
895
00:37:31,541 --> 00:37:33,251
Hey, guys.
896
00:37:33,251 --> 00:37:35,754
What‐what's happening
out at Skinwalker Ranch?
897
00:37:35,754 --> 00:37:38,548
We've got interesting things,
and then we've got things
898
00:37:38,548 --> 00:37:41,301
that... lend me to pause and...
899
00:37:41,301 --> 00:37:43,470
have me concerned.
900
00:37:43,470 --> 00:37:46,264
And I'll let Travis explain,
you know, what we found
901
00:37:46,264 --> 00:37:48,057
with‐with the folks doing
902
00:37:48,057 --> 00:37:51,060
the GPR, or ground‐penetrating
radar work.
903
00:37:52,562 --> 00:37:55,565
Right in front
of Homestead Two...
904
00:37:55,565 --> 00:37:59,360
there is an anomaly underground
that ranges from about...
905
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:03,031
12 or 13 feet
all the way down to 35 feet,
906
00:38:03,031 --> 00:38:05,116
and it's kind of,
907
00:38:05,116 --> 00:38:07,827
uh... I would say
maybe football‐shaped,
908
00:38:07,827 --> 00:38:10,330
about a thousand‐foot long.
909
00:38:12,499 --> 00:38:14,959
If I were gonna say that there's
any place on the ranch
910
00:38:14,959 --> 00:38:16,753
where "X" marks the spot,
it's right there
911
00:38:16,753 --> 00:38:19,547
in the middle of the road
right in front of Homestead Two.
912
00:38:22,634 --> 00:38:24,969
That‐that leads
into the not so good news.
913
00:38:24,969 --> 00:38:27,972
Travis and Dr. Segala
914
00:38:27,972 --> 00:38:31,309
were exposed to a dose
915
00:38:31,309 --> 00:38:34,395
of toxic radiation.
916
00:38:34,395 --> 00:38:35,939
Yeah.
917
00:38:35,939 --> 00:38:38,149
Well, I mean, I'm‐I'm okay, uh,
918
00:38:38,149 --> 00:38:40,610
and I've had my doctors talk
to me about it and everything.
919
00:38:40,610 --> 00:38:42,779
There's not‐nothing
to worry about.
920
00:38:43,905 --> 00:38:45,240
(Travis chuckles)
921
00:38:45,240 --> 00:38:47,075
Yeah. It's crazy.
922
00:39:01,673 --> 00:39:04,008
Look, this is your property,
923
00:39:04,008 --> 00:39:06,177
and, you know,
I'm gonna defer to you,
924
00:39:06,177 --> 00:39:07,846
because you're the boss.
925
00:39:07,846 --> 00:39:11,224
So, what‐what...
How do you feel about it?
926
00:39:23,111 --> 00:39:27,031
Yeah, I think we don't have to
dig in a major excavation way.
927
00:39:27,031 --> 00:39:29,868
What we do is take, like,
auger core samples.
928
00:39:29,868 --> 00:39:32,871
And so, you know, if something
is a few inches in diameter,
929
00:39:32,871 --> 00:39:35,874
we drill down until we get
to that first layer
930
00:39:35,874 --> 00:39:39,377
of what the boundary
of this thing is...
931
00:39:39,377 --> 00:39:41,004
and we'll do, uh,
safety measurements
932
00:39:41,004 --> 00:39:43,548
every couple of feet
to make sure it's not...
933
00:39:43,548 --> 00:39:47,677
pulling back a toxic chemical or
a... or something radioactive.
934
00:40:15,204 --> 00:40:16,664
I agree with that.
935
00:40:25,048 --> 00:40:27,383
Or it could halt it
in its tracks, Brandon.
936
00:40:37,435 --> 00:40:38,561
All right.
Thanks again for the time.
937
00:40:38,561 --> 00:40:39,479
‐We'll talk to you soon.
‐All right.
938
00:40:39,479 --> 00:40:41,439
See you later, Brandon.
939
00:40:43,816 --> 00:40:46,611
BRANDON: We're always concerned
about disturbing the earth,
940
00:40:46,611 --> 00:40:48,112
because we've seen
941
00:40:48,112 --> 00:40:50,949
in past history
that bad things happen.
942
00:40:52,909 --> 00:40:54,994
ERIK:
I do feel the weight
of responsibility.
943
00:40:54,994 --> 00:40:59,290
I wonder whether I have covered
all the appropriate bases
944
00:40:59,290 --> 00:41:02,126
prior to doing
this unprecedented exploration
945
00:41:02,126 --> 00:41:03,544
on the property.
946
00:41:03,544 --> 00:41:05,797
♪ ♪
947
00:41:05,797 --> 00:41:07,590
BRYANT:
I'm as curious as anybody
948
00:41:07,590 --> 00:41:09,634
to find out
what the heck that big thing
949
00:41:09,634 --> 00:41:11,594
in the ground
by Homestead Two is,
950
00:41:11,594 --> 00:41:14,389
but it really makes me
take a step back,
951
00:41:14,389 --> 00:41:16,641
because I don't want anybody
to get hurt,
952
00:41:16,641 --> 00:41:18,518
especially the people
I care about.
953
00:41:19,978 --> 00:41:21,813
TRAVIS:
Ground‐penetrating radar said
954
00:41:21,813 --> 00:41:23,940
there's something here under
the road that's anomalous,
955
00:41:23,940 --> 00:41:26,150
and the only way to get
down there and look at it
956
00:41:26,150 --> 00:41:27,485
is to dig a hole.
957
00:41:27,485 --> 00:41:30,238
So that's exactly
what we're gonna do.
958
00:41:35,493 --> 00:41:37,662
‐SEGALA: Let's get to it.
‐TRAVIS: GPR has given us
959
00:41:37,662 --> 00:41:39,163
an "'X' marks the spot."
960
00:41:39,163 --> 00:41:40,289
SEGALA:
They're hitting
something hard now.
961
00:41:40,289 --> 00:41:41,958
Man, they're on something.
962
00:41:41,958 --> 00:41:44,168
There is an unnatural structure
beneath this property.
963
00:41:44,168 --> 00:41:46,004
‐That whole thing's shaking.
‐BRYANT: Look at that.
964
00:41:46,004 --> 00:41:47,839
‐What is that?
‐SEGALA: Why is that
rocking like that?
965
00:41:47,839 --> 00:41:49,173
‐TRAVIS: Oh!
‐TOM: There we go.
966
00:41:49,173 --> 00:41:50,675
THOMAS:
I'm hoping that bringing in
967
00:41:50,675 --> 00:41:52,802
an exotic animal on the ranch
will stimulate
968
00:41:52,802 --> 00:41:54,971
whatever is mutilating
these cattle.
969
00:41:54,971 --> 00:41:57,348
‐(animal shrieking)
‐TOM: The alpacas
have been torn apart.
970
00:41:57,348 --> 00:42:00,476
‐What is that?
‐If that's a dog,
it's a big dog.
971
00:42:00,476 --> 00:42:02,437
(animals continue shrieking)
972
00:42:04,147 --> 00:42:05,732
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