1 00:00:05,797 --> 00:00:09,092 ALEX TREBEK: (OVER TV) These two title MTV cartoon guys thought 2 00:00:09,175 --> 00:00:11,094 the band KISS was pretty cool 3 00:00:11,177 --> 00:00:13,304 -for a bunch of mimes. -Who is Beavis and Butt-Head? 4 00:00:13,388 --> 00:00:14,764 -ALEX: Ben? -Who are Beavis and Butt-Head? 5 00:00:14,848 --> 00:00:17,016 -ALEX: Yup! -Uh, TV character for 400. 6 00:00:17,100 --> 00:00:18,852 -ALEX: From 1970 to-- -NATHAN FIELDER: I'm not good 7 00:00:18,935 --> 00:00:20,603 at meeting people for the first time. 8 00:00:20,687 --> 00:00:24,399 -Hey. Nice to meet you. Nathan. -Pleased to meet you. How are you? Kor. 9 00:00:24,482 --> 00:00:25,483 ♪ (GENTLE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 10 00:00:25,567 --> 00:00:28,903 -Oh, door city over here. -Uh, yes. 11 00:00:28,987 --> 00:00:30,905 -(CHUCKLES) -So, this is, um-- 12 00:00:30,989 --> 00:00:33,408 Basically, it's like a portal, I guess, on some levels. 13 00:00:33,491 --> 00:00:34,826 -(CHUCKLES) Yeah. -(CHUCKLES) 14 00:00:34,909 --> 00:00:36,745 NATHAN: I have been told my personality 15 00:00:36,828 --> 00:00:38,580 can make people uncomfortable, 16 00:00:38,663 --> 00:00:41,374 so I have to work to offset that. 17 00:00:41,458 --> 00:00:45,879 Humor is my go-to instinct, but every joke is a gamble. 18 00:00:45,962 --> 00:00:48,882 -Shoes off or... -Oh, please walk as is. 19 00:00:48,965 --> 00:00:50,467 -And-- -Okay. Shirt off? 20 00:00:50,550 --> 00:00:51,551 -Or? Just kidding. -(LAUGHS) 21 00:00:51,634 --> 00:00:53,136 -I'll leave my shirt on. -It's not that-- 22 00:00:53,219 --> 00:00:54,763 No, it's not that kind of place. (CHUCKLES) 23 00:00:54,846 --> 00:00:56,139 -No, it's not, I'm just kidding. -(SIGHS) 24 00:00:56,222 --> 00:00:59,309 NATHAN: So far it was going well, and it had to, 25 00:00:59,392 --> 00:01:02,228 because I was about to ask this man to trust me 26 00:01:02,312 --> 00:01:04,189 with his life. 27 00:01:04,272 --> 00:01:07,984 Kor Skeet is a 50-year-old teacher from Brooklyn, New York, 28 00:01:08,067 --> 00:01:10,779 and there is nothing he loves more than trivia. 29 00:01:10,862 --> 00:01:13,239 I'm very good at television trivia. 30 00:01:13,323 --> 00:01:15,909 Who is the youngest person to ever be inducted 31 00:01:15,992 --> 00:01:17,410 into the Television Hall of Fame? 32 00:01:18,411 --> 00:01:19,621 It's a female. 33 00:01:19,704 --> 00:01:22,081 -NATHAN: Who? -Oprah Winfrey. 34 00:01:22,165 --> 00:01:23,833 NATHAN: A few months ago, Kor responded 35 00:01:23,917 --> 00:01:28,004 to a vague Craigslist post I put on the internet, sharing a story 36 00:01:28,087 --> 00:01:30,882 about a lie he told his bar trivia team 37 00:01:30,965 --> 00:01:32,467 over 12 years ago. 38 00:01:32,550 --> 00:01:36,513 I, um, told my friends that I had an advanced degree, 39 00:01:36,596 --> 00:01:40,183 and I didn't. I play trivia with them often, 40 00:01:40,266 --> 00:01:41,976 and the problem was that I... 41 00:01:42,060 --> 00:01:44,187 um, wanted to seem like I was smarter than I was. 42 00:01:44,270 --> 00:01:47,315 My teammates all had advanced degrees. 43 00:01:47,398 --> 00:01:48,566 I decided to let them think 44 00:01:48,650 --> 00:01:51,569 I had a master's degree when I was just getting 45 00:01:51,653 --> 00:01:53,321 my bachelor's. 46 00:01:53,404 --> 00:01:58,076 -Oh, wow! You've quite a collection. -Yeah, I'm a bibliophile. 47 00:01:58,159 --> 00:02:02,413 "How to Make Love All Night and Drive a Woman Wild?" 48 00:02:02,497 --> 00:02:04,749 -Well, you know? (LAUGHS) -I think we're gonna get along 49 00:02:04,833 --> 00:02:07,252 -pretty well. (LAUGHS) -(LAUGHS) Well, 50 00:02:07,335 --> 00:02:08,837 -I don't know about that. I-- -Yeah. 51 00:02:08,920 --> 00:02:10,380 -(INHALES SHARPLY) -NATHAN: And now it's gotten 52 00:02:10,463 --> 00:02:13,049 to the point where he's lying to them every day. 53 00:02:13,132 --> 00:02:15,718 I have a friend on the team that keeps sending me, 54 00:02:15,802 --> 00:02:19,264 um, jobs that require a master's degree. 55 00:02:19,347 --> 00:02:21,683 So now, it's being shoved back in my face again, 56 00:02:21,766 --> 00:02:24,018 and I'm running out of excuses. 57 00:02:24,102 --> 00:02:26,062 NATHAN: I understand his dilemma. 58 00:02:26,145 --> 00:02:28,523 This trivia team is his life. 59 00:02:28,606 --> 00:02:30,775 And when you reveal your true self, 60 00:02:30,859 --> 00:02:32,986 people don't always like what they see. 61 00:02:33,069 --> 00:02:34,529 But I wanted to show him 62 00:02:34,612 --> 00:02:36,698 that if you plan for every variable, 63 00:02:36,781 --> 00:02:39,993 a happy outcome doesn't have to be left to chance. 64 00:02:40,076 --> 00:02:43,246 ♪ (MUSIC FADES) ♪ 65 00:02:43,329 --> 00:02:46,124 I assume you've seen some of my previous work? Or... 66 00:02:46,207 --> 00:02:49,502 -I'm afraid I haven't. -Okay. Um... 67 00:02:49,586 --> 00:02:52,171 It's-- I made a show called Nathan For You. 68 00:02:52,255 --> 00:02:53,298 Oh, okay. 69 00:02:54,382 --> 00:02:56,509 Didn't you say your trivia specialty 70 00:02:56,593 --> 00:02:57,760 is television shows? 71 00:02:57,844 --> 00:02:59,929 It is but there's even a limitation on that. 72 00:03:00,013 --> 00:03:02,140 -Oh, okay. (CHUCKLES) -(LAUGHS) 73 00:03:02,223 --> 00:03:03,766 -NATHAN: Um... -Yeah. 74 00:03:03,850 --> 00:03:05,143 I mean, you should check it out. 75 00:03:05,226 --> 00:03:07,770 -Oh, I mean, definitely. -But a lot of it involved 76 00:03:07,854 --> 00:03:10,315 -working with real people... -KOR SKEET: Yeah. 77 00:03:10,398 --> 00:03:12,191 ...so I'd have to put myself in all these 78 00:03:12,275 --> 00:03:16,321 uncertain environments and I became really good 79 00:03:16,404 --> 00:03:20,366 at predicting how people would act in a future situation. 80 00:03:20,450 --> 00:03:22,785 -Okay, okay. -For example. 81 00:03:22,869 --> 00:03:25,246 -KOR: Yeah. -Like this conversation's going 82 00:03:25,330 --> 00:03:28,082 -pretty well, right? -Okay, I'd like to continue it. 83 00:03:28,166 --> 00:03:29,751 I mean, do you think so? I don't know. 84 00:03:29,834 --> 00:03:32,295 -Yeah. I'm-- So far, so good. -I mean, we've been having fun. 85 00:03:32,378 --> 00:03:33,421 -Yes. -I assume we have been 86 00:03:33,504 --> 00:03:35,632 -sharing some laughs so far. -Yeah. Yeah. 87 00:03:35,715 --> 00:03:37,800 -I hope to continue that way. -(BOTH LAUGH) 88 00:03:37,884 --> 00:03:39,928 So, that's no accident. 89 00:03:40,011 --> 00:03:41,596 ♪ (TENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 90 00:03:41,679 --> 00:03:44,098 Everything that's happened so far today, 91 00:03:44,182 --> 00:03:47,602 I have rehearsed it dozens of times. 92 00:03:47,685 --> 00:03:51,147 These exact words, in a replica of your home, 93 00:03:51,230 --> 00:03:54,943 -with an actor playing you. -Okay. 94 00:03:55,026 --> 00:03:58,404 Remember a couple of weeks ago, when the gas company came by 95 00:03:58,488 --> 00:04:00,782 because of a leak in your building? 96 00:04:00,865 --> 00:04:04,077 -Yes... -Well, there wasn't a leak 97 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:05,536 in your building, that was my team. 98 00:04:05,620 --> 00:04:08,456 -(KNOCKING AT DOOR) -FAKE GAS COMPANY WORKER: 99 00:04:08,539 --> 00:04:10,708 NATHAN: Now, when you gave them access, they secretly made 100 00:04:10,792 --> 00:04:12,877 a digital map of your entire home. 101 00:04:14,587 --> 00:04:16,506 We then recreated every detail of this space 102 00:04:16,589 --> 00:04:20,343 as a physical set in a warehouse a few miles from here. 103 00:04:20,426 --> 00:04:22,845 And with the help of a fake you, I could practice 104 00:04:22,929 --> 00:04:26,015 every single permutation of this interaction 105 00:04:26,099 --> 00:04:27,433 and have a plan for it. 106 00:04:27,517 --> 00:04:30,353 I mean, do you think I should say something about the doors? 107 00:04:30,436 --> 00:04:33,815 The actor I hired analyzed your submission video 108 00:04:33,898 --> 00:04:36,275 to mimic your speech patterns and psychology. 109 00:04:36,359 --> 00:04:39,195 Well, it's me with my-- my parents, I was-- 110 00:04:39,278 --> 00:04:42,156 I can't remember, maybe I was about ten? 111 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,243 "How to Make Love All Night and Drive a Woman Wild?" 112 00:04:45,326 --> 00:04:47,120 -(CHUCKLES) Yeah, that was a... -I feel like we're gonna 113 00:04:47,203 --> 00:04:49,080 -get along pretty well. -(LAUGHS) 114 00:04:49,163 --> 00:04:50,915 NATHAN: And we tried over and over. 115 00:04:50,999 --> 00:04:52,417 -Hi. Nathan. -FAKE KOR STREET: Hey. 116 00:04:52,500 --> 00:04:54,168 -Hi. Nathan. -FAKE KOR: Hi. Hey, hi. 117 00:04:54,252 --> 00:04:56,379 -Hi. Nathan. -Hi. (CHUCKLES) Hi. 118 00:04:56,462 --> 00:04:59,048 -(CHUCKLES) -Oh, door city over here. Huh? 119 00:04:59,132 --> 00:05:02,552 NATHAN: And I'd adjust each time until I perfected it. 120 00:05:02,635 --> 00:05:04,512 -Or shoes off? -No, no, no, 121 00:05:04,595 --> 00:05:05,847 you can leave them on, it's fine. 122 00:05:05,930 --> 00:05:06,848 All right. What about shirt off? 123 00:05:06,931 --> 00:05:09,183 -(BOTH LAUGH) -Leave it on, please. 124 00:05:09,267 --> 00:05:11,060 Yeah, so that will probably make him laugh. 125 00:05:11,144 --> 00:05:13,646 So everything that's happened so far today, 126 00:05:13,730 --> 00:05:16,232 I have rehearsed it dozens of times. 127 00:05:16,315 --> 00:05:17,775 These exact words, 128 00:05:17,859 --> 00:05:21,320 in a replica of your home, with an actor playing you. 129 00:05:21,988 --> 00:05:22,989 Wow! 130 00:05:23,781 --> 00:05:25,116 ♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 131 00:05:25,742 --> 00:05:26,826 Wow! 132 00:05:26,909 --> 00:05:30,788 This is what we can do for your lie with your friends. 133 00:05:30,872 --> 00:05:32,373 -Yeah, uh-huh. -Your trivia, like, 134 00:05:32,457 --> 00:05:33,666 this is the potential 135 00:05:33,750 --> 00:05:36,377 -is what I am saying. -I see. Like a person, if I had 136 00:05:36,461 --> 00:05:40,256 the ability to know-- if I knew what-- how the other person 137 00:05:40,339 --> 00:05:41,424 or other people are gonna react, 138 00:05:41,507 --> 00:05:42,842 or how the situation is gonna go... 139 00:05:42,925 --> 00:05:44,135 -You'll know. -Yeah. 140 00:05:44,218 --> 00:05:46,346 You'll know what exactly to say for every possible way. 141 00:05:46,429 --> 00:05:48,806 Well-- Oh, then that would be extremely appealing, yes. 142 00:05:48,890 --> 00:05:51,768 NATHAN: But as we kept talking, I began to understand 143 00:05:51,851 --> 00:05:55,021 the real reason he had been putting this off for so long. 144 00:05:55,605 --> 00:05:56,731 Mm. Well, 145 00:05:56,814 --> 00:05:59,734 it's good except for one thing. Suppose one of my friends 146 00:05:59,817 --> 00:06:01,027 might give a reaction 147 00:06:01,110 --> 00:06:03,404 that's very, very violent on some people, 148 00:06:03,488 --> 00:06:06,949 even beyond the several predictions you can make. 149 00:06:07,825 --> 00:06:09,535 What do you mean by violent? 150 00:06:09,619 --> 00:06:12,205 -So-- -Like, you know, call me names 151 00:06:12,288 --> 00:06:14,123 and saying things that are so unforgivable 152 00:06:14,207 --> 00:06:16,918 that I couldn't be their friend after that. 153 00:06:18,461 --> 00:06:21,089 Who are you worried about specifically? 154 00:06:21,756 --> 00:06:24,342 Uh... 155 00:06:24,425 --> 00:06:27,261 Um, I'd rather not reveal the name, 156 00:06:27,345 --> 00:06:29,722 not at this point, but um... 157 00:06:29,806 --> 00:06:33,142 it's definitely someone that's on the team. 158 00:06:33,226 --> 00:06:35,228 NATHAN: I found myself in an odd situation. 159 00:06:35,311 --> 00:06:36,479 ♪ (TENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 160 00:06:36,562 --> 00:06:38,189 NATHAN: Kor was willing to point out his friend 161 00:06:38,272 --> 00:06:40,108 in a photo, but he wouldn't tell me 162 00:06:40,191 --> 00:06:41,859 anything else about her. 163 00:06:41,943 --> 00:06:43,402 She looks so nice, what is it about her? 164 00:06:43,486 --> 00:06:44,946 Oh, she's a nice person, very nice, but... 165 00:06:46,572 --> 00:06:47,824 Hmm, how do I put it? 166 00:06:48,241 --> 00:06:50,284 Uh, if she-- 167 00:06:50,368 --> 00:06:52,787 Depending on her mood, you don't wanna cross her 168 00:06:52,870 --> 00:06:55,706 -too much. -Oh, my God! Okay. 169 00:06:55,790 --> 00:06:58,417 NATHAN: It was frustrating. My rehearsal for today 170 00:06:58,501 --> 00:07:01,212 was designed to get him to open up about this stuff, 171 00:07:01,295 --> 00:07:04,173 but perhaps I had done something to put him off. 172 00:07:05,216 --> 00:07:07,385 Thinking back, there was a somewhat 173 00:07:07,468 --> 00:07:10,972 off-color joke I tried after a trip to the bathroom. 174 00:07:11,055 --> 00:07:13,558 Oh, my gosh, I should start traveling with a plunger. 175 00:07:13,641 --> 00:07:17,395 -(SNICKERS) Ooh! -Good? 176 00:07:17,478 --> 00:07:18,604 You think he'd find that funny? Or-- 177 00:07:18,688 --> 00:07:19,814 -Yeah. -NATHAN: But when I did it 178 00:07:19,897 --> 00:07:22,191 with the real Kor, it didn't land. 179 00:07:22,275 --> 00:07:25,069 Oh, my God, I should start traveling with a plunger. 180 00:07:25,153 --> 00:07:27,780 -(CHUCKLES) Oh, well, well. -NATHAN: Hmm? 181 00:07:27,864 --> 00:07:30,616 -Oh, well. (CHUCKLES) -(CHUCKLES NERVOUSLY) 182 00:07:33,411 --> 00:07:35,663 -Are they expensive? -No. No. 183 00:07:35,746 --> 00:07:37,123 ♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 184 00:07:37,206 --> 00:07:38,833 NATHAN: Could that joke have been it? 185 00:07:39,917 --> 00:07:42,587 I'd intended the joke to be self-deprecating 186 00:07:42,670 --> 00:07:45,256 about my unpredictable bowel movements, 187 00:07:45,339 --> 00:07:48,217 but reflecting on it later, I realized he could have 188 00:07:48,301 --> 00:07:49,719 interpreted it as a criticism 189 00:07:49,802 --> 00:07:52,096 that his bathroom was under-equipped. 190 00:07:53,472 --> 00:07:56,058 Whatever the reason, I couldn't stage a rehearsal 191 00:07:56,142 --> 00:07:59,187 for Kor with no details about his friend. 192 00:07:59,270 --> 00:08:01,689 So, I planned a day trip for us upstate, 193 00:08:01,772 --> 00:08:04,692 that was strategically designed to endear me to him 194 00:08:04,775 --> 00:08:07,028 and hopefully, get him to open up. 195 00:08:07,111 --> 00:08:08,571 -Have you ever been? -Never. 196 00:08:08,654 --> 00:08:10,031 -You've never? -I-- Never in my entire life. 197 00:08:10,114 --> 00:08:12,283 So, your last name is Skeet and you've never been 198 00:08:12,366 --> 00:08:14,660 -skeet shooting? -No, no. 199 00:08:14,744 --> 00:08:16,037 -(GUNSHOT) -KOR: Oops. 200 00:08:17,788 --> 00:08:18,915 (LAUGHS) 201 00:08:18,998 --> 00:08:20,666 NATHAN: Pull. 202 00:08:20,750 --> 00:08:23,586 -(GUNSHOT) -(GROANS) 203 00:08:24,337 --> 00:08:25,922 KOR: Pull. 204 00:08:26,005 --> 00:08:27,381 ♪ (SERENE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 205 00:08:28,257 --> 00:08:29,258 NATHAN: I didn't tell Kor, 206 00:08:29,342 --> 00:08:30,384 but I had arranged ahead... 207 00:08:30,468 --> 00:08:31,594 -KOR: Pull. -NATHAN: ...of time to have 208 00:08:31,677 --> 00:08:32,803 the guns loaded with blanks, 209 00:08:32,887 --> 00:08:34,388 -in the hopes... -KOR: Pull. 210 00:08:34,472 --> 00:08:36,057 NATHAN: ...that it would create a moment of bonding, 211 00:08:36,140 --> 00:08:38,100 because we were both bad at this. 212 00:08:39,852 --> 00:08:40,853 (GRUNTS) 213 00:08:42,271 --> 00:08:43,940 -Huh? -You fired too early, man. 214 00:08:44,023 --> 00:08:45,233 I fired too early. 215 00:08:45,316 --> 00:08:46,901 Wow, we are not good at this. 216 00:08:46,984 --> 00:08:48,402 -Eh. -(NATHAN CHUCKLES) 217 00:08:48,486 --> 00:08:50,404 But it's nice to have a new experience. 218 00:08:50,863 --> 00:08:51,906 Yeah. 219 00:08:51,989 --> 00:08:53,699 NATHAN: But this was just laying the groundwork 220 00:08:53,783 --> 00:08:55,076 for the main event. 221 00:08:55,159 --> 00:08:57,912 The mutual disclosure of personal information 222 00:08:57,995 --> 00:08:59,497 in a heated pool. 223 00:08:59,580 --> 00:09:01,958 -♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ -You mentioned you were married. 224 00:09:02,041 --> 00:09:05,711 Yes, I was married for five years. (SIGHS) 225 00:09:11,175 --> 00:09:14,637 -I was married for three years. -Oh, didn't know that. 226 00:09:16,639 --> 00:09:17,848 Is it sad for you? 227 00:09:20,726 --> 00:09:22,895 I consider it one of my, um... 228 00:09:24,021 --> 00:09:26,440 one of the bigger failures of my life. 229 00:09:26,524 --> 00:09:29,193 -One of the what? -Biggest failures of my life. 230 00:09:29,735 --> 00:09:31,696 (WATER SPLASHING) 231 00:09:40,204 --> 00:09:41,497 ♪ (WHIMSICAL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 232 00:09:41,580 --> 00:09:43,874 NATHAN: I didn't want to go too deep into my private life, 233 00:09:43,958 --> 00:09:46,335 so I'd pre-planned for an elderly swimmer 234 00:09:46,419 --> 00:09:47,420 to interrupt us, 235 00:09:47,503 --> 00:09:49,046 in the hopes that it would convince Kor 236 00:09:49,130 --> 00:09:52,800 I was ready to share more had the moment not been ruined. 237 00:09:54,260 --> 00:09:57,847 I wasn't sure if my portrayal of vulnerability was convincing, 238 00:09:57,930 --> 00:10:00,725 but on the ride home, Kor finally told me the name 239 00:10:00,808 --> 00:10:04,270 of his trivia friend, Tricia, and what she did for a living. 240 00:10:04,353 --> 00:10:05,730 -♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ -She's been mostly 241 00:10:05,813 --> 00:10:09,525 a freelance writer and she has, um, 242 00:10:09,608 --> 00:10:12,486 a blog, gives information about things you could do 243 00:10:12,570 --> 00:10:14,822 to save money and have fun. 244 00:10:16,073 --> 00:10:19,618 -What's the blog called? -Cheap Chick in the City. 245 00:10:19,702 --> 00:10:22,913 -"Cheap Chick in the City"? -Cheap Chick in the City. 246 00:10:26,167 --> 00:10:30,254 -Cheap Check in the City. -Cheap Chick in the City. 247 00:10:32,757 --> 00:10:37,428 -Cheap Check in the City. -Cheap Chick in the City. 248 00:10:38,804 --> 00:10:40,723 -♪ (WHIMSICAL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ -NATHAN: Cheap Chick in the City 249 00:10:40,806 --> 00:10:42,516 seemed to be a bare-bones website 250 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,644 dedicated to low-cost activities in New York. 251 00:10:45,728 --> 00:10:48,647 I was hoping it would be a window into Tricia's psyche, 252 00:10:48,731 --> 00:10:51,817 but it seemed like the majority of posts were just apologies 253 00:10:51,901 --> 00:10:55,237 for not having anything to post that day. 254 00:10:55,321 --> 00:10:58,949 I understand that. Sometimes you don't wanna say anything, 255 00:10:59,033 --> 00:11:01,744 but you do want people to know you exist. 256 00:11:04,288 --> 00:11:07,208 Regardless, I was hopeful this blog would be enough 257 00:11:07,291 --> 00:11:08,417 for the rehearsal actress 258 00:11:08,501 --> 00:11:10,836 we'd hire to base her performance on, 259 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,089 in addition to Kor's insights. 260 00:11:13,172 --> 00:11:15,674 Uh, she has a... 261 00:11:15,758 --> 00:11:20,471 an appeal for an actor named Vincent... um, Karth-- Karthreiser. 262 00:11:20,554 --> 00:11:23,140 NATHAN: But unfortunately, it wasn't enough. 263 00:11:23,224 --> 00:11:25,434 I mean, I think it's really useful 264 00:11:25,518 --> 00:11:27,853 to get a sense of what their reactions might be, 265 00:11:27,937 --> 00:11:30,731 and the kinds of words that they might use. 266 00:11:30,815 --> 00:11:32,441 NATHAN: So, to get her better access, 267 00:11:32,525 --> 00:11:35,861 I decided to create a blog of my own called Thrifty Boy, 268 00:11:35,945 --> 00:11:37,905 and offered Tricia the opportunity 269 00:11:37,988 --> 00:11:41,909 to write an article for us. And luckily, she took the gig. 270 00:11:41,992 --> 00:11:43,577 ♪ (TENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 271 00:11:43,661 --> 00:11:44,954 NATHAN: Her article would entail 272 00:11:45,037 --> 00:11:47,915 interviewing a professional bird watcher for our site, 273 00:11:47,998 --> 00:11:51,085 because bird watching is a thrifty thing to do. 274 00:11:52,336 --> 00:11:53,546 But what Tricia didn't know 275 00:11:53,629 --> 00:11:56,340 is that she'd be interviewing her own doppelgänger, 276 00:11:56,424 --> 00:11:58,884 who would be studying her every move. 277 00:12:06,392 --> 00:12:09,520 -FAKE TRICIA: Nice to meet you. (CHUCKLES) -TRICIA: 278 00:12:09,603 --> 00:12:11,480 FAKE TRICIA: Tricia? Oh, that's my daughter's name. 279 00:12:15,734 --> 00:12:18,654 FAKE TRICIA: Um, I do love hummingbirds. 280 00:12:18,737 --> 00:12:19,780 NATHAN: At first glance, 281 00:12:19,864 --> 00:12:22,324 this woman didn't seem frightening at all, 282 00:12:22,408 --> 00:12:23,993 but she did like to talk. 283 00:12:24,076 --> 00:12:25,453 But you know my dad is really into birds. 284 00:12:25,536 --> 00:12:26,579 -FAKE TRICIA: Oh, yeah? -He seriously has like-- 285 00:12:26,662 --> 00:12:27,830 He lives in North Carolina, which I guess, 286 00:12:27,913 --> 00:12:29,373 apparently, there's a very big bird show there. 287 00:12:29,457 --> 00:12:30,875 A really good book called The Huntress, 288 00:12:30,958 --> 00:12:33,127 -and I do recommend it. It's World War II. -FAKE TRICIA: Okay. 289 00:12:33,210 --> 00:12:35,713 But otherwise, I mean, aside from my roommates, I'm actually 290 00:12:35,796 --> 00:12:37,173 pretty happy with the way things are, 291 00:12:37,256 --> 00:12:38,674 but my roommate's definitely... 292 00:12:38,757 --> 00:12:40,259 You know, like, "Hey, I'm running late," 293 00:12:40,342 --> 00:12:43,012 like, but maybe he found a payphone, maybe, but like... 294 00:12:43,095 --> 00:12:45,097 One time, like, the plane started plunging, so 295 00:12:45,181 --> 00:12:46,432 -after that, like... -FAKE TRICIA: Oh. 296 00:12:46,515 --> 00:12:48,184 I still get kind of nervous when I'm in a plane and... 297 00:12:48,267 --> 00:12:50,686 NATHAN: Over the course of the 30-minute encounter, 298 00:12:50,769 --> 00:12:53,481 our actress had trouble getting a single word in, 299 00:12:53,564 --> 00:12:56,192 even though she was the one being interviewed. 300 00:12:56,275 --> 00:12:57,985 So, I have all the apps, you know, for the different, 301 00:12:58,068 --> 00:13:01,155 you know, airlines, on my phone, ready to go, 302 00:13:01,238 --> 00:13:02,490 -whenever I need to fly. -Yeah. 303 00:13:02,573 --> 00:13:05,034 American Airlines, Delta, um, Gogo inflight entertainment. 304 00:13:05,117 --> 00:13:07,661 NATHAN: But before it was over, I wanted to get a sense 305 00:13:07,745 --> 00:13:10,664 of how Tricia would respond to being lied to. 306 00:13:10,748 --> 00:13:11,957 Data that would be crucial 307 00:13:12,041 --> 00:13:13,417 -for our rehearsal. -♪ (MUSIC FADES) ♪ 308 00:13:13,501 --> 00:13:14,835 FAKE TRICIA: There's actually something I need 309 00:13:14,919 --> 00:13:16,921 -to come clean about. Um... -Okay. 310 00:13:17,004 --> 00:13:18,214 FAKE TRICIA: I said early on that 311 00:13:18,297 --> 00:13:19,673 my daughter's name was Tricia... 312 00:13:19,757 --> 00:13:22,009 -Mm-hmm. -FAKE TRICIA: ...but that was actually a lie. 313 00:13:22,092 --> 00:13:23,219 -Oh, okay. -FAKE TRICIA: I don't-- 314 00:13:23,302 --> 00:13:25,846 -I don't have a daughter. Um... -Oh, wow! Okay. 315 00:13:25,930 --> 00:13:27,806 I guess I should have guessed when you said you were 39, 316 00:13:27,890 --> 00:13:29,892 'cause it's a little young to have a daughter these days. 317 00:13:29,975 --> 00:13:31,685 -(ACTOR CHUCKLES) -That's okay, that's funny, 318 00:13:31,769 --> 00:13:33,562 'cause I was like, I mean, like I said, 319 00:13:33,646 --> 00:13:34,813 you don't meet too many other Tricias, 320 00:13:34,897 --> 00:13:36,357 so I was a little surprised, but you know, 321 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,193 that's-- Yeah, that's interesting, but I understand. 322 00:13:39,276 --> 00:13:41,820 -I'm sorry that I... (SIGHS) -It's fine, no worries. 323 00:13:41,904 --> 00:13:43,280 Do you have any funny moments that you had 324 00:13:43,364 --> 00:13:46,867 with a bird? With birds? Or any fun stories about birds? 325 00:13:46,951 --> 00:13:51,163 -♪ (WHIMSICAL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ -NATHAN: I was surprised by how not mad Tricia was. 326 00:13:51,247 --> 00:13:53,791 Was Kor worried for nothing, or was Tricia 327 00:13:53,874 --> 00:13:58,254 just able to bottle up her rage because it was a stranger? 328 00:13:58,337 --> 00:14:01,549 Kor was so convinced she would have an extreme reaction 329 00:14:01,632 --> 00:14:03,092 that he insisted the confession 330 00:14:03,175 --> 00:14:06,762 could only go down one-on-one, in a public place. 331 00:14:06,845 --> 00:14:10,474 Trivia would be, I think, the only place that would not arouse suspicion, 332 00:14:10,558 --> 00:14:13,269 because that's something we do out of habit already. 333 00:14:13,352 --> 00:14:15,521 -Okay. -I can probably get her 334 00:14:15,604 --> 00:14:18,566 in a trivia event, by ourselves, just between she and I. 335 00:14:18,649 --> 00:14:21,735 -♪ (TENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ -NATHAN: But when I saw the trivia bar Kor frequents, 336 00:14:21,819 --> 00:14:23,779 I was overwhelmed by the chaos 337 00:14:23,862 --> 00:14:25,489 -of the environment. -(INDISTINCT CHATTER) 338 00:14:25,573 --> 00:14:27,074 NATHAN: This is footage I collected 339 00:14:27,157 --> 00:14:28,409 from the Alligator Lounge 340 00:14:28,492 --> 00:14:31,745 in Brooklyn, and it seemed like any aspect of this space 341 00:14:31,829 --> 00:14:36,208 could radically transform the tone of his big moment. 342 00:14:36,292 --> 00:14:39,461 I had learned this firsthand when I met Kor. 343 00:14:39,545 --> 00:14:41,297 I thought I would look cool, 344 00:14:41,380 --> 00:14:44,133 but due to just a slight difference in chairs, 345 00:14:44,216 --> 00:14:46,343 I looked like a fool. 346 00:14:46,427 --> 00:14:49,471 -♪ (WHIMSICAL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ -NATHAN: It's hard to say what about this place 347 00:14:49,555 --> 00:14:51,640 could affect Kor's confession, 348 00:14:51,724 --> 00:14:54,810 but I did notice there were a lot of chairs, 349 00:14:54,893 --> 00:14:57,646 and I didn't want to leave anything to chance. 350 00:14:58,981 --> 00:15:01,317 Kor had messaged Tricia to play trivia with him 351 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:05,946 in just under two weeks' time. This is where it would happen. 352 00:15:06,030 --> 00:15:09,116 The place where he would finally come clean. 353 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,911 So with the clock now ticking, I invited Kor 354 00:15:12,995 --> 00:15:16,415 into my secret warehouse to begin his rehearsal. 355 00:15:19,793 --> 00:15:21,253 ♪ (MUSIC FADES) ♪ 356 00:15:21,337 --> 00:15:23,631 Wow, this is... (CHUCKLES) 357 00:15:23,714 --> 00:15:26,008 ...the perfect replica. 358 00:15:26,091 --> 00:15:28,135 I mean, that's not even a funhouse version of it. 359 00:15:28,218 --> 00:15:31,680 It has-- It looks... Wow! 360 00:15:33,265 --> 00:15:35,517 ♪ (SERENE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 361 00:15:35,601 --> 00:15:38,354 NATHAN: Every detail was meticulously replicated 362 00:15:38,437 --> 00:15:40,522 -this time. -Oh, my gosh! 363 00:15:42,524 --> 00:15:43,776 Oh, my gosh! 364 00:15:43,859 --> 00:15:47,279 This spice rack, it's the exact spices they have, the garlic... 365 00:15:47,363 --> 00:15:48,572 -Yeah. -...the basil. 366 00:15:48,656 --> 00:15:50,491 This chair is an exact-- 367 00:15:50,574 --> 00:15:51,909 -This-- These rips-- -KOR: Wow! 368 00:15:51,992 --> 00:15:54,328 -Yeah, and that, even that's... -Well... 369 00:15:54,411 --> 00:15:56,997 ...exactly the way it is. The portrait kind of tilts. 370 00:15:57,081 --> 00:16:01,210 You see that balloon there? That's in the real bar. 371 00:16:01,293 --> 00:16:05,464 Wow! It'll be like walking in, in a normal level, 372 00:16:05,547 --> 00:16:06,507 and then being able 373 00:16:06,590 --> 00:16:09,051 -to know my bearings. -When you show up 374 00:16:09,134 --> 00:16:12,262 on the actual night, it'll feel just like this. 375 00:16:12,346 --> 00:16:14,390 -Yes. -No surprises. 376 00:16:14,473 --> 00:16:15,891 -No. -You know everything 377 00:16:15,974 --> 00:16:17,059 that's gonna happen. 378 00:16:20,646 --> 00:16:23,315 NATHAN: There's something strange about entering a space 379 00:16:23,399 --> 00:16:26,110 that's indistinguishable from another. 380 00:16:26,193 --> 00:16:29,863 In moments, you can forget where you are. 381 00:16:29,947 --> 00:16:33,701 To me, it's like-- It's a little surreal at times because... 382 00:16:33,784 --> 00:16:35,327 -♪ (MUSIC FADES) ♪ -...I mean it's like... 383 00:16:35,411 --> 00:16:36,912 You're the, um... 384 00:16:36,995 --> 00:16:39,581 You're Willy Wonka in the Chocolate Factory 385 00:16:39,665 --> 00:16:43,335 and I'm Charlie Bucket, trying to get the-- 386 00:16:43,419 --> 00:16:46,088 I don't remember the plot fully, what did Willy Wonka do? 387 00:16:46,171 --> 00:16:47,756 -Was he good? -Well, he created-- 388 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:49,383 -NATHAN: Wasn't he a bad guy? -Well, he had 389 00:16:49,466 --> 00:16:53,804 some questionable things, he was this mysterious, um... 390 00:16:53,887 --> 00:16:56,390 Uh, factory full of candy, 391 00:16:56,473 --> 00:16:57,766 -basically. -But I'm Willy-- 392 00:16:57,850 --> 00:17:00,310 -I'm the bad guy in the story? -Well, but he's a dream maker. 393 00:17:00,394 --> 00:17:01,645 -NATHAN: Okay. -And you're doing-- 394 00:17:01,729 --> 00:17:03,230 You're making some dreams happen for me. 395 00:17:03,313 --> 00:17:04,898 But kids died in the factory. 396 00:17:04,982 --> 00:17:08,318 Well, they supposedly died, I don't know for sure 397 00:17:08,402 --> 00:17:09,570 -if they actually-- -NATHAN: Okay. 398 00:17:09,653 --> 00:17:12,072 But they didn't get some good fate out of it. 399 00:17:12,156 --> 00:17:16,034 I'll read the book again just to... to look into it. 400 00:17:16,118 --> 00:17:17,244 KOR: Yeah. 401 00:17:17,327 --> 00:17:21,290 ♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 402 00:17:27,588 --> 00:17:29,423 NATHAN: It's good. 403 00:17:29,506 --> 00:17:33,093 We started with basic blocking, and the first choice 404 00:17:33,177 --> 00:17:35,721 Kor would have to make is where to sit. 405 00:17:35,804 --> 00:17:37,514 -What's yours? This one? -KOR: Yep. Yes. 406 00:17:39,391 --> 00:17:41,185 -Yeah. -Good? 407 00:17:41,268 --> 00:17:42,895 NATHAN: Kor proposed that on the night, 408 00:17:42,978 --> 00:17:44,021 he would arrive early, 409 00:17:44,104 --> 00:17:47,149 and secure his favorite table using his hat 410 00:17:47,232 --> 00:17:49,526 while he went to grab their trivia sheet and drinks 411 00:17:49,610 --> 00:17:51,236 for the two of them from the bar. 412 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:55,240 -Hi, can I help you? -Yes, can I have an orange juice, no pulp, 413 00:17:55,324 --> 00:17:57,910 -and a margarita, please? -Coming right up. 414 00:18:00,204 --> 00:18:01,789 NATHAN: Is that a margarita? What is it? 415 00:18:01,872 --> 00:18:03,582 -What did you put in it? -I don't know-- Just make-- 416 00:18:03,665 --> 00:18:05,000 I don't know how to make a margarita. 417 00:18:05,083 --> 00:18:07,211 NATHAN: He thought that greeting Tricia with a drink 418 00:18:07,294 --> 00:18:09,171 would help put her in a good mood, 419 00:18:09,254 --> 00:18:11,173 since she normally shows up at trivia 420 00:18:11,256 --> 00:18:12,841 complaining about something. 421 00:18:12,925 --> 00:18:15,177 My roommates are driving me crazy, and just, 422 00:18:15,260 --> 00:18:16,470 it's one of those days where you're like, 423 00:18:16,553 --> 00:18:17,679 "You don't need to be rude." 424 00:18:17,763 --> 00:18:19,306 I think it's just, like, we're all human beings here. 425 00:18:19,389 --> 00:18:21,642 NATHAN: And he suggested trying to joke with her 426 00:18:21,725 --> 00:18:22,935 to lighten her spirits. 427 00:18:23,018 --> 00:18:27,189 I would guess I would say, um... (MUTTERS INDISTINCTLY) 428 00:18:27,272 --> 00:18:29,024 I'm gonna probably give you a little buzz tonight 429 00:18:29,107 --> 00:18:32,361 because I'm sure someone's plucking your nerves today. 430 00:18:32,444 --> 00:18:34,196 Okay, is that a joke? Or just a line-- 431 00:18:34,279 --> 00:18:36,657 -It'll be more of a joke. -Okay. 432 00:18:36,740 --> 00:18:39,827 NATHAN: For every way Tricia could react, I would input 433 00:18:39,910 --> 00:18:41,328 a planned response from Kor 434 00:18:41,411 --> 00:18:44,164 into specialized flowchart software. 435 00:18:44,248 --> 00:18:45,749 -FAKE TRICIA: Hey. -Hi, Trish the dish. 436 00:18:45,833 --> 00:18:47,084 FAKE TRICIA: How you doing? 437 00:18:47,167 --> 00:18:49,503 NATHAN: This would allow us to chart the optimal path 438 00:18:49,586 --> 00:18:50,712 through the evening. 439 00:18:50,796 --> 00:18:52,589 Are you-- Are you starting with presidents? 440 00:18:52,673 --> 00:18:55,259 -No, I'm starting with twins. -Oh, you went twins and then 441 00:18:55,342 --> 00:18:57,803 -go to presidents? -I started with twins and I connected to-- 442 00:18:57,886 --> 00:18:59,221 -And then go to the presidents? -Yeah. 443 00:18:59,304 --> 00:19:00,347 NATHAN: Okay. 444 00:19:00,430 --> 00:19:01,974 A decision tree that would guide us towards 445 00:19:02,057 --> 00:19:05,144 key milestones and help us avoid pitfalls. 446 00:19:05,227 --> 00:19:06,812 -Hey. Hi, man. -KOR: Hi. Trish the Dish. 447 00:19:06,895 --> 00:19:09,147 NATHAN: Kor had told me there was a chance Tricia could 448 00:19:09,231 --> 00:19:13,026 misinterpret his invitation as a sign of romantic interest. 449 00:19:13,110 --> 00:19:15,863 I mean, she's a single person and I guess... 450 00:19:15,946 --> 00:19:20,158 uh, that after all these years, I'm inviting her by myself. 451 00:19:20,534 --> 00:19:21,535 Right. 452 00:19:21,618 --> 00:19:23,871 (CHUCKLES) You know I don't drink very much, 453 00:19:23,954 --> 00:19:24,997 you trying to get me drunk? 454 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:26,790 NATHAN: But when we ran that simulation, 455 00:19:26,874 --> 00:19:28,709 he gave confusing signals. 456 00:19:28,792 --> 00:19:31,253 You're leaving your hand touching hers right there. 457 00:19:31,336 --> 00:19:32,462 Well, if I move it then 458 00:19:32,546 --> 00:19:34,381 it's gonna bring more suspicion to it. 459 00:19:34,464 --> 00:19:35,591 I mean, how as a woman, 460 00:19:35,674 --> 00:19:36,967 how would you take that? If you touched 461 00:19:37,050 --> 00:19:38,927 a guy's hand and he just left it there. 462 00:19:39,011 --> 00:19:41,013 She could read that as you flirting back. 463 00:19:41,096 --> 00:19:42,222 Right. 464 00:19:42,306 --> 00:19:44,933 NATHAN: So, I had Kor practice some standard defenses 465 00:19:45,017 --> 00:19:46,685 to any advance she might make. 466 00:19:46,768 --> 00:19:49,062 FAKE TRICIA: I think it's really nice of you to get me a drink. 467 00:19:49,146 --> 00:19:50,314 I feel like it's um... 468 00:19:50,397 --> 00:19:52,733 Just, yeah, it's nice to go like, come and... 469 00:19:52,816 --> 00:19:55,068 NATHAN: But, of course, all this was designed 470 00:19:55,152 --> 00:19:57,070 to lay the perfect foundation for him to confess his lie. 471 00:19:57,154 --> 00:19:58,530 -to confess his lie. -♪ (MUSIC FADES) ♪ 472 00:19:58,614 --> 00:20:00,407 Did I tell you what happened with my laptop? 473 00:20:00,490 --> 00:20:01,408 -No, no idea. -Yeah, so, I-- 474 00:20:01,491 --> 00:20:02,910 The other day I went to switch it on 475 00:20:02,993 --> 00:20:05,871 and it just didn't switch on, and like, it was, you know that 476 00:20:05,954 --> 00:20:07,581 thing of-- I was in the middle of writing something, 477 00:20:07,664 --> 00:20:10,417 so I'm thinking I'm gonna lose the pictures that are in there-- 478 00:20:10,500 --> 00:20:13,295 Well, it's funny that you think about losing, I wanted-- 479 00:20:13,378 --> 00:20:15,631 -This might-- -It sounds heavy, but actually, 480 00:20:15,714 --> 00:20:17,966 don't worry because I-- This story turned around, 481 00:20:18,050 --> 00:20:19,885 like, I didn't actually end up losing the photos 482 00:20:19,968 --> 00:20:22,221 and the stuff, but I did have to take it to get it fixed. 483 00:20:22,304 --> 00:20:24,848 Kor, I think you need to take control 484 00:20:24,932 --> 00:20:27,100 of the conversation, she's not gonna give you an opening. 485 00:20:27,184 --> 00:20:28,769 -Oh, okay. -NATHAN: If you just let her talk 486 00:20:28,852 --> 00:20:30,145 she's just gonna keep talking, right? 487 00:20:30,228 --> 00:20:32,439 I'll try just one more time. To see if I can find another 488 00:20:32,522 --> 00:20:34,608 pattern into breaking into the conversation. 489 00:20:34,691 --> 00:20:35,943 Okay. Try it. 490 00:20:36,026 --> 00:20:37,402 FAKE TRICIA: Like, he just couldn't make 491 00:20:37,486 --> 00:20:38,445 any kind of conversation 492 00:20:38,528 --> 00:20:40,030 and like, he suddenly said like, something 493 00:20:40,113 --> 00:20:42,199 about, like, pineapple being a member 494 00:20:42,282 --> 00:20:43,241 of the citrus family, and like-- 495 00:20:43,325 --> 00:20:46,119 My educational situation is a fraud. 496 00:20:48,830 --> 00:20:50,832 -What? -♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 497 00:20:50,916 --> 00:20:52,459 NATHAN: But just starting his confession 498 00:20:52,542 --> 00:20:55,671 wasn't the only challenge. Kor was most worried 499 00:20:55,754 --> 00:20:57,005 about the aftermath. 500 00:20:57,089 --> 00:21:00,175 So, our entire approach had to be planned around the format 501 00:21:00,259 --> 00:21:02,010 of this particular trivia night. 502 00:21:02,094 --> 00:21:04,721 Well, there's, uh, um, usually six questions per round, 503 00:21:04,805 --> 00:21:07,683 it's about four rounds. After round two, they usually 504 00:21:07,766 --> 00:21:09,351 have a ten to 15-minute break. 505 00:21:09,434 --> 00:21:11,353 We're gonna take a ten-minute break, and I'm gonna add up 506 00:21:11,436 --> 00:21:12,521 all your scores. 507 00:21:12,604 --> 00:21:13,939 KOR: And then during that time, 508 00:21:14,022 --> 00:21:16,066 uh, sometimes we would order some pizza. 509 00:21:16,149 --> 00:21:18,527 Here are your two tickets for pizza. 510 00:21:18,610 --> 00:21:20,988 The ideal thing would be to talk about it for five minutes 511 00:21:21,071 --> 00:21:23,907 and then, yeah, move on. I don't want to linger, 512 00:21:23,991 --> 00:21:27,661 I just wanna say it and then pretty much have it dropped. 513 00:21:27,744 --> 00:21:29,162 So, you don't have a master's degree? 514 00:21:29,246 --> 00:21:32,040 No. I just don't want you to send me any more information 515 00:21:32,124 --> 00:21:35,210 -about jobs that have a master's degree-- -Definitely not gonna do that. 516 00:21:35,293 --> 00:21:37,004 Like, I really wanna understand like, why-- 517 00:21:37,087 --> 00:21:38,463 How did we end up here? 518 00:21:38,547 --> 00:21:39,881 NATHAN: So, you just wanna shut it down. 519 00:21:39,965 --> 00:21:41,925 KOR: I wanna shut it down. So, at least if I do it toward 520 00:21:42,009 --> 00:21:44,219 the end, then the benefit is I can leave if I think, 521 00:21:44,302 --> 00:21:45,721 "Okay, too hairy," and say, "Oops, 522 00:21:45,804 --> 00:21:48,140 I have an appointment to go to, sorry, I have to go." 523 00:21:48,223 --> 00:21:50,392 I don't owe you an explanation for that, I really don't. 524 00:21:50,475 --> 00:21:52,436 I owe you an apology for putting you through that, 525 00:21:52,519 --> 00:21:54,229 but I don't feel I owe you an explanation. 526 00:21:54,312 --> 00:21:56,231 All right, well, can we like, discuss it after the trivia? 527 00:21:56,314 --> 00:21:59,735 I don't wanna discuss it any longer about the situation. 528 00:21:59,818 --> 00:22:02,946 So, I'd rather say it at least after the last round, 529 00:22:03,030 --> 00:22:04,531 -but before the scores. -♪ (MUSIC FADES) ♪ 530 00:22:04,614 --> 00:22:07,034 All right, start finishing up your ballots 531 00:22:07,117 --> 00:22:09,286 and bring them up to score when you're ready, all right? 532 00:22:09,369 --> 00:22:11,496 NATHAN: But as soon as we started incorporating 533 00:22:11,580 --> 00:22:13,999 full rounds of trivia into our rehearsal, 534 00:22:14,082 --> 00:22:16,084 -it revealed a problem. -♪ (TENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 535 00:22:16,168 --> 00:22:21,381 What is the number on the roof of the bus in Speed? 536 00:22:22,007 --> 00:22:23,467 -What... -Wow! 537 00:22:23,550 --> 00:22:26,762 FAKE TRIVIA HOST: ...is the number on the roof of the bus in Speed? 538 00:22:26,845 --> 00:22:29,222 NATHAN: Kor became entranced by the game, 539 00:22:29,306 --> 00:22:30,932 and when he didn't know an answer, 540 00:22:31,016 --> 00:22:32,976 he couldn't focus on anything else. 541 00:22:33,060 --> 00:22:35,103 That's right, I'm gonna lose some points on this one. 542 00:22:35,187 --> 00:22:36,772 -FAKE TRICIA: Yeah. -I thought I would have known, 543 00:22:36,855 --> 00:22:38,398 uh, who hosted Wheel of Fortune 544 00:22:38,482 --> 00:22:39,941 -before Pat Sajak. -Okay. 545 00:22:40,025 --> 00:22:42,486 And I had 10,000 names in my head but I couldn't 546 00:22:42,569 --> 00:22:43,612 -pinpoint anybody. -Sure. 547 00:22:43,695 --> 00:22:47,365 Okay, well, do you wanna go into the confession? 548 00:22:47,449 --> 00:22:49,576 Or do you wanna try that or... 549 00:22:49,659 --> 00:22:51,995 Uh... It's the option... 550 00:22:52,079 --> 00:22:54,206 NATHAN: And he grew frustrated that the stress of having 551 00:22:54,289 --> 00:22:57,751 to confess this lie was affecting his trivia game. 552 00:22:57,834 --> 00:23:01,630 I'm not gonna take the chance to miss good questions 553 00:23:01,713 --> 00:23:03,715 because I'm having this burden, 554 00:23:03,799 --> 00:23:05,008 'cause we can actually just lose points 555 00:23:05,092 --> 00:23:06,885 because the concentration is off-- 556 00:23:06,968 --> 00:23:09,304 Right, but who cares if you lose the game? 557 00:23:09,387 --> 00:23:10,430 You got this off your chest, 558 00:23:10,514 --> 00:23:12,307 I mean, it's just one night of bar trivia. 559 00:23:12,390 --> 00:23:16,853 No. One night of bar trivia is sacrosanct to us. 560 00:23:16,937 --> 00:23:18,230 NATHAN: And that's when he told me that 561 00:23:18,313 --> 00:23:20,857 if it wasn't going well on the actual trivia night, 562 00:23:20,941 --> 00:23:23,568 he might bail on the confession entirely. 563 00:23:23,652 --> 00:23:25,862 No, I would not-- I'm not sacrificing trivia night. 564 00:23:25,946 --> 00:23:27,989 -Not for that, no. -Isn't it just for fun? 565 00:23:28,073 --> 00:23:29,866 -Like everyone's drunk, right? -KOR: No. 566 00:23:29,950 --> 00:23:32,077 (SCOFFS) Then I'm gonna have two things against me, 567 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:36,498 I mess up a good trivia night and I, um, lied to her. 568 00:23:36,581 --> 00:23:39,751 So, to me, I gotta take one of them out of the equation. 569 00:23:41,461 --> 00:23:43,630 -Okay. (SIGHS) -♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 570 00:23:43,713 --> 00:23:45,841 NATHAN: I had gone to incredible lengths 571 00:23:45,924 --> 00:23:47,717 to eliminate all uncertainty 572 00:23:47,801 --> 00:23:50,178 from the night. But the only way to know 573 00:23:50,262 --> 00:23:52,973 the actual trivia questions that the real host 574 00:23:53,056 --> 00:23:56,268 would be asking would involve some sort of cheating, 575 00:23:56,351 --> 00:23:57,936 and that would be unethical. 576 00:23:59,938 --> 00:24:03,400 But maybe it's more unethical to leave things to chance 577 00:24:03,483 --> 00:24:05,735 when there's something you could have done. 578 00:24:09,197 --> 00:24:11,950 -♪ (MILD TEMPO MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ -NATHAN: So, posing as the founder of the popular blog 579 00:24:12,033 --> 00:24:14,244 Thrifty Boy, I arranged an interview 580 00:24:14,327 --> 00:24:17,205 with the real trivia host at one of the other bars he hosts at... 581 00:24:17,289 --> 00:24:18,248 -Hey. -Oh, hey. Nice to meet you. 582 00:24:18,331 --> 00:24:19,499 NATHAN: ...under the pretense of doing 583 00:24:19,583 --> 00:24:22,043 a Thrifty Boy trivia night feature. 584 00:24:22,127 --> 00:24:24,171 Now, is it mandatory to buy drinks? 585 00:24:24,254 --> 00:24:26,548 Because our readers really don't like to spend money. 586 00:24:26,631 --> 00:24:30,218 There's-- We have not had a problem with having 587 00:24:30,302 --> 00:24:33,430 people forced to buy drinks or food. 588 00:24:33,513 --> 00:24:35,307 And does the bar charge for seltzer water, 589 00:24:35,390 --> 00:24:36,391 or is that free? 590 00:24:36,474 --> 00:24:38,101 That's up to each individual establishment. 591 00:24:38,185 --> 00:24:39,436 -And to-- I think... -Very cool, okay. 592 00:24:39,519 --> 00:24:41,563 NATHAN: I told him we wanted the profile to include 593 00:24:41,646 --> 00:24:44,191 an interactive video component in which he would 594 00:24:44,274 --> 00:24:46,484 read the questions for the Alligator Lounge's 595 00:24:46,568 --> 00:24:47,986 upcoming trivia night 596 00:24:48,069 --> 00:24:50,238 to camera, so our readers could play along 597 00:24:50,322 --> 00:24:51,531 at home for free. 598 00:24:51,615 --> 00:24:55,243 What conflict began in 1789 599 00:24:55,327 --> 00:24:59,164 and led to the beheading of Louis XVI? 600 00:24:59,247 --> 00:25:01,666 NATHAN: It was one thing to get the trivia questions 601 00:25:01,750 --> 00:25:05,253 for the big night, but making sure Kor knew the answers 602 00:25:05,337 --> 00:25:06,630 would be its own challenge. 603 00:25:06,713 --> 00:25:08,840 So, I don't know why Archie had trouble choosing them 604 00:25:08,924 --> 00:25:10,133 except for the personality 605 00:25:10,217 --> 00:25:11,635 cause they look physically the same. 606 00:25:11,718 --> 00:25:14,137 NATHAN: I knew that cheating at trivia was something 607 00:25:14,221 --> 00:25:15,889 Kor doesn't tangle with. 608 00:25:15,972 --> 00:25:18,099 Have you ever cheated at trivia? 609 00:25:18,183 --> 00:25:19,893 No. 610 00:25:19,976 --> 00:25:23,021 NATHAN: So we started going on daily walks just to chat 611 00:25:23,104 --> 00:25:26,942 about life, but I was actually using these casual strolls 612 00:25:27,025 --> 00:25:30,403 to covertly implant every single trivia answer 613 00:25:30,487 --> 00:25:32,572 into Kor's brain without him knowing. 614 00:25:32,656 --> 00:25:35,492 If you ever need to get in, the code is 1789. 615 00:25:35,575 --> 00:25:36,576 Oh, okay. 616 00:25:36,660 --> 00:25:38,453 Like the year the French Revolution started... 617 00:25:38,536 --> 00:25:39,746 -Yes. -...in 1789. 618 00:25:39,829 --> 00:25:41,957 -I'm not a big summer person. -Uh-huh. 619 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,291 -And I'm not a big... -Oh, shit! 620 00:25:43,375 --> 00:25:46,419 -...spring person. -It's all over my DKNY pants. 621 00:25:47,170 --> 00:25:49,005 Donna Karan New York, DKNY. 622 00:25:49,089 --> 00:25:50,924 -Only in New York. -(CHUCKLES) 623 00:25:51,883 --> 00:25:53,385 Building's looking pretty tall. 624 00:25:55,011 --> 00:25:57,597 It is tall, but it's not the tallest building in the world. 625 00:25:57,681 --> 00:26:00,058 That'll be the Burj Khalifa in Dubai. 626 00:26:00,141 --> 00:26:05,313 -The Burj Khalifa? Huh. -Yup. The Burj Khalifa. 627 00:26:05,397 --> 00:26:06,439 Tallest building. 628 00:26:07,524 --> 00:26:10,110 -What's going on here? -It's a hostage situation, 629 00:26:10,193 --> 00:26:12,112 guy has four people at gunpoint. 630 00:26:13,363 --> 00:26:15,031 Shot someone in the head on his way in. 631 00:26:15,699 --> 00:26:16,908 Oh, my God! That's nuts. 632 00:26:16,992 --> 00:26:18,994 -Oh, my gosh. -It's days like these 633 00:26:19,077 --> 00:26:21,121 that I curse the Chinese for inventing gunpowder. 634 00:26:22,330 --> 00:26:24,291 -Wow! -That's crazy. Oh, my God. 635 00:26:24,374 --> 00:26:26,376 Well, good luck to you, sir. Good luck with the whole 636 00:26:26,459 --> 00:26:27,669 -process. -Oh, my God. 637 00:26:27,752 --> 00:26:29,838 -Prayers for the family. -♪ (GENTLE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 638 00:26:36,052 --> 00:26:38,555 NATHAN: With just three days to go until Kor would meet up 639 00:26:38,638 --> 00:26:41,683 with Tricia at the real Alligator Lounge, I had over 640 00:26:41,766 --> 00:26:46,563 30 actors occupy the space, playing customers, servers. 641 00:26:46,646 --> 00:26:50,692 We had real beer on tap and even a working simulation 642 00:26:50,775 --> 00:26:51,985 of their pizza oven. 643 00:26:59,159 --> 00:27:00,618 -(INDISTINCT CHATTER) -(BELL DINGS) 644 00:27:00,702 --> 00:27:03,413 NATHAN: Each time we ran through the night, new variables 645 00:27:03,496 --> 00:27:06,207 were introduced that he would have to adapt to. 646 00:27:07,625 --> 00:27:09,836 With a special focus on the moment 647 00:27:09,919 --> 00:27:11,212 when he'd be confessing. 648 00:27:11,296 --> 00:27:13,882 I gotta tell you something, and it's been eating 649 00:27:13,965 --> 00:27:15,216 -at me for years. -FAKE TRICIA: Oh, yeah? 650 00:27:15,300 --> 00:27:16,551 Hey guys, how we doing over here? 651 00:27:16,634 --> 00:27:17,761 -Good. -I'm fine, thank you. 652 00:27:17,844 --> 00:27:19,387 Can we get you another drink? Can I get you a drink? 653 00:27:19,471 --> 00:27:21,264 -I think we're good. -Okay, Kor, so you probably 654 00:27:21,348 --> 00:27:24,267 don't want the interruption happening during the confession, 655 00:27:24,351 --> 00:27:25,935 so maybe you make sure your drink isn't empty 656 00:27:26,019 --> 00:27:27,187 -at this point in the night. -Okay. 657 00:27:27,270 --> 00:27:29,272 -Right? So, maybe tiny sips. -Right. 658 00:27:29,356 --> 00:27:31,941 -Can you just take tinier sips? -I got it, take tiny sips. 659 00:27:32,025 --> 00:27:36,029 NATHAN: We ran through the entire night 13 times. 660 00:27:36,112 --> 00:27:38,365 But unlike real life, in here, 661 00:27:38,448 --> 00:27:40,492 you can always hit the reset button 662 00:27:40,575 --> 00:27:42,035 and start over. 663 00:27:42,118 --> 00:27:45,205 It was the one place on earth you couldn't fail. 664 00:27:46,081 --> 00:27:47,540 Orange juice, no pulp. 665 00:27:47,624 --> 00:27:48,625 Hope you don't mind? 666 00:27:48,708 --> 00:27:50,085 I decided to give you a little buzz. 667 00:27:52,337 --> 00:27:55,090 I decided to... (SIGHS) ...give you a little buzz. 668 00:27:56,841 --> 00:27:58,927 It's something that's been eating at me for a long time. 669 00:27:59,010 --> 00:28:00,220 Oh, yeah? 670 00:28:01,471 --> 00:28:03,223 It's been eating at me for this-- 671 00:28:03,306 --> 00:28:04,516 forever, and I wanna... 672 00:28:05,350 --> 00:28:06,393 I just wanna tell you. 673 00:28:07,894 --> 00:28:09,270 -No pulp. -Okay. 674 00:28:09,354 --> 00:28:10,313 I gotta tell you something. 675 00:28:10,397 --> 00:28:12,273 This has been eating at me for years. 676 00:28:13,483 --> 00:28:16,236 My whole educational status has been a scam. 677 00:28:16,319 --> 00:28:17,362 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 678 00:28:18,822 --> 00:28:20,281 Just based after my childhood, 679 00:28:20,365 --> 00:28:22,492 I guess there's some issues there. Some insecurities 680 00:28:22,575 --> 00:28:25,036 I haven't been able to face until now. 681 00:28:25,120 --> 00:28:28,248 NATHAN: As we neared the end, Kor seemed to be testing 682 00:28:28,331 --> 00:28:29,833 new approaches, 683 00:28:29,916 --> 00:28:32,585 but that didn't mean Tricia always took it well. 684 00:28:32,669 --> 00:28:35,004 I don't understand why you felt the need to lie 685 00:28:35,088 --> 00:28:37,173 about your education. I mean, it's really messed up. 686 00:28:37,257 --> 00:28:38,299 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 687 00:28:38,383 --> 00:28:39,801 -I-- -For years, 688 00:28:39,884 --> 00:28:41,636 we were trying to help you get a job 'cause you said 689 00:28:41,719 --> 00:28:43,555 you had a master's degree, and that was all bullshit! 690 00:28:43,638 --> 00:28:44,722 (SIGHS) 691 00:28:44,806 --> 00:28:46,558 -Well, I was just trying to-- -Is this what you think 692 00:28:46,641 --> 00:28:49,644 a friendship is? Like, you have no respect for me, no respect 693 00:28:49,727 --> 00:28:54,023 for my time. I don't give a crap about your education. 694 00:28:54,107 --> 00:28:55,442 (BREATHES SHAKILY) But-- 695 00:28:55,525 --> 00:28:59,946 but 12 years of deception, that's-- Twelve years! 696 00:29:00,029 --> 00:29:04,701 It's unforgivable. (SOBS) I don't wanna talk to you again. 697 00:29:04,784 --> 00:29:05,869 Please don't go. 698 00:29:10,039 --> 00:29:12,292 FAKE PATRON 1: He lied about having a master's degree. 699 00:29:12,375 --> 00:29:14,210 I just heard their conversation. 700 00:29:14,294 --> 00:29:15,920 FAKE PATRON 2: (SCOFFS) No master's degree? 701 00:29:16,004 --> 00:29:17,380 FAKE PATRON 3: This guy is such a fraud. 702 00:29:17,464 --> 00:29:19,340 FAKE PATRON 4: Who doesn't have a master's degree? 703 00:29:19,424 --> 00:29:22,260 And the loser of tonight's trivia is... 704 00:29:23,511 --> 00:29:24,679 Kor Skeet. 705 00:29:24,762 --> 00:29:27,599 -(FAKE PATRONS MUTTERING) -♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 706 00:29:33,271 --> 00:29:36,733 NATHAN: Are you sure you wanna do this? For sure? 707 00:29:39,235 --> 00:29:42,280 KOR: Well, it still felt good that I got it off my chest, 708 00:29:42,363 --> 00:29:45,366 even if it means I might lose a friendship in the process. 709 00:29:48,620 --> 00:29:51,915 NATHAN: Like... I don't think it'll go that bad. 710 00:29:51,998 --> 00:29:54,292 -(KOR CHUCKLES) Oh. Mm-hmm. -NATHAN: But... 711 00:29:55,752 --> 00:29:59,214 KOR: I'm literally going into the unknown, 712 00:29:59,297 --> 00:30:01,716 the pit of the alligator, and... 713 00:30:01,799 --> 00:30:04,802 he's gonna swallow me up or let me go free. 714 00:30:25,114 --> 00:30:26,950 -♪ (TENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ -(INDISTINCT CHATTER) 715 00:30:27,033 --> 00:30:29,077 NATHAN: We had planned for Kor to get there early 716 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,539 to secure his chosen table. But when he arrived, 717 00:30:32,622 --> 00:30:36,501 there was a problem. The table was taken. 718 00:30:36,584 --> 00:30:40,296 Fortunately, we had rehearsed for this exact scenario. 719 00:30:40,380 --> 00:30:43,508 Sorry to bother you, my grandmother died of like, 720 00:30:43,591 --> 00:30:45,885 -brain cancer recently... -Same. 721 00:30:45,969 --> 00:30:49,222 ...and this-- Terrible thing. This table here 722 00:30:49,305 --> 00:30:50,765 -is like a sentimental thing. -(INDISTINCT CHATTER) 723 00:30:50,848 --> 00:30:53,893 Um, I know you're all settled here but would you 724 00:30:53,977 --> 00:30:55,436 consider to moving to another area? 725 00:30:56,646 --> 00:30:58,565 -I know it sounds outrageous. -PATRON: 726 00:30:58,648 --> 00:31:00,233 -Yeah, if you want. -Oh, that'd be nice of you. 727 00:31:00,316 --> 00:31:01,526 -Thank you so much. -No worries. 728 00:31:03,945 --> 00:31:06,406 -Oh, I'm so sorry about that. -PATRON: 729 00:31:06,489 --> 00:31:10,743 ♪ (TENSE MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪ 730 00:31:11,744 --> 00:31:14,247 -Do you have any orange juice? -Yes. 731 00:31:14,330 --> 00:31:15,707 Do you have it with no pulp? 732 00:31:15,790 --> 00:31:18,459 -Thank you so much. -BARTENDER: 733 00:31:18,543 --> 00:31:19,711 Thank you so much. 734 00:31:24,716 --> 00:31:25,967 (CLEARS THROAT) 735 00:31:26,050 --> 00:31:27,635 (CHUCKLES) Hello! 736 00:31:28,886 --> 00:31:30,722 -TRICIA: Hey! -Trish the dish. 737 00:31:30,805 --> 00:31:33,308 -TRICIA: (CHUCKLES) Gosh! -Now what? 738 00:31:33,391 --> 00:31:37,145 -(TRICIA SIGHS) -I decided to get you a rum and coke, a little buzz. 739 00:31:37,228 --> 00:31:39,606 'Cause I'm sure everyone's been plucking on your nerves, 740 00:31:39,689 --> 00:31:41,107 -or someone you know-- -TRICIA: 741 00:31:49,032 --> 00:31:50,074 (KOR LAUGHS) 742 00:32:07,467 --> 00:32:08,635 -KOR: I can understand that. -TRICIA: 743 00:32:08,718 --> 00:32:11,012 NATHAN: As expected, Tricia showed up 744 00:32:11,095 --> 00:32:12,930 not in the best of spirits, 745 00:32:13,014 --> 00:32:16,351 but Kor knew exactly what to talk about to cheer her up. 746 00:32:16,434 --> 00:32:18,728 -♪ (UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ -Um, the Bush twins. 747 00:32:18,811 --> 00:32:20,396 -TRICIA: -KOR: Yeah, Jenna and Laura. 748 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:25,068 They're the only two children of a president, that are twins. 749 00:32:25,151 --> 00:32:27,320 -TRICIA: -With all the presidents, 750 00:32:27,403 --> 00:32:28,946 -sometimes having eight or nine kids. -TRICIA: 751 00:32:29,030 --> 00:32:31,491 -And none of them had twins within that range. -TRICIA: 752 00:32:31,574 --> 00:32:35,119 -Not even stillborn twins, not even like in that situation. -TRICIA: 753 00:32:35,203 --> 00:32:36,204 So he's the only one. 754 00:32:36,287 --> 00:32:37,497 ♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 755 00:32:37,580 --> 00:32:39,123 NATHAN: Kor was sticking to the script, 756 00:32:39,207 --> 00:32:40,333 and it was working. 757 00:32:40,416 --> 00:32:42,752 KOR: He's the earliest president we have that had 758 00:32:42,835 --> 00:32:46,089 like-- has grandchildren still living from that generation. 759 00:32:46,172 --> 00:32:47,298 That is so crazy. 760 00:32:47,382 --> 00:32:49,801 NATHAN: And before long, it was time for trivia. 761 00:32:49,884 --> 00:32:51,219 Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, 762 00:32:51,302 --> 00:32:53,304 the moment you all have been waiting for, 763 00:32:53,388 --> 00:32:55,181 we're gonna start playing trivia. 764 00:32:55,264 --> 00:32:57,225 What mode of transportation places 765 00:32:57,308 --> 00:33:00,395 the rider in a laid-back, reclining position, 766 00:33:00,478 --> 00:33:05,400 distributing the rider's weight comfortably over a large area? 767 00:33:05,483 --> 00:33:08,528 Uh, these freaking recumbent bikes are everywhere. 768 00:33:08,611 --> 00:33:09,737 (LAUGHS) 769 00:33:09,821 --> 00:33:11,072 TRIVIA HOST: What mode of transportation 770 00:33:11,155 --> 00:33:15,076 places the rider in a laid-back reclining position, 771 00:33:15,159 --> 00:33:20,248 distributing the rider's weight comfortably over a large area? 772 00:33:20,331 --> 00:33:22,667 TRICIA: Probably a train. I think Amtrak did that but I'm not sure. 773 00:33:22,750 --> 00:33:25,086 Uh... Or it could be a bike, 774 00:33:25,169 --> 00:33:26,713 or something like that, one of those reclining bikes? 775 00:33:26,796 --> 00:33:28,923 TRICIA: But you don't really, recline the seat of a bike, 776 00:33:29,006 --> 00:33:30,133 -right? -Yeah. 777 00:33:30,216 --> 00:33:32,343 NATHAN: Kor was slightly off on the first question, 778 00:33:32,427 --> 00:33:35,388 and I was worried these answers weren't fully absorbed 779 00:33:35,471 --> 00:33:36,723 into his brain. 780 00:33:36,806 --> 00:33:39,767 TRIVIA HOST: The correct answer to that is a recumbent bike. 781 00:33:39,851 --> 00:33:41,352 -This is like, really-- -Yeah, I knew it was a bike. 782 00:33:41,436 --> 00:33:44,439 But I-- I know-- I've seen it, but I couldn't imagine the name. 783 00:33:44,522 --> 00:33:45,940 TRICIA: I've, uh-- I've heard the name. 784 00:33:46,023 --> 00:33:47,108 I wouldn't know the name. 785 00:33:47,191 --> 00:33:49,527 NATHAN: But then, things started to turn around. 786 00:33:49,610 --> 00:33:52,739 TRIVIA HOST: The correct answer is the French Revolution. 787 00:33:52,822 --> 00:33:55,575 -(CROWD CHEERING) -Look at you! 788 00:33:55,658 --> 00:33:57,410 TRIVIA HOST: The correct answer, gunpowder. 789 00:33:57,493 --> 00:33:58,870 (CROWD CHEERING) 790 00:33:58,953 --> 00:34:00,288 TRIVIA HOST: And the correct answer to that 791 00:34:00,371 --> 00:34:02,165 is called Burj Khalifa. 792 00:34:02,248 --> 00:34:03,249 TRICIA: Good! 793 00:34:03,332 --> 00:34:04,667 -(CROWD CHEERING) -(LAUGHS) 794 00:34:04,751 --> 00:34:07,462 NATHAN: It was an amazing streak that continued until the end 795 00:34:07,545 --> 00:34:10,965 of round four, and he seemed to be brimming with confidence 796 00:34:11,048 --> 00:34:14,135 by the time he got up to hand in his score sheet, 797 00:34:14,218 --> 00:34:16,888 marking the start of his window to come clean. 798 00:34:16,971 --> 00:34:20,892 -(INDISTINCT CHATTER) -Thank you. I'll be right back. 799 00:34:20,975 --> 00:34:23,770 NATHAN: In our fake bar, we had practiced an option 800 00:34:23,853 --> 00:34:25,772 where he would get pizza for both of them 801 00:34:25,855 --> 00:34:27,273 right after the fourth round, 802 00:34:27,356 --> 00:34:29,275 so it would be easier for him to initiate 803 00:34:29,358 --> 00:34:31,903 the confession while her mouth was full, 804 00:34:31,986 --> 00:34:34,030 and since she was in a chatty mood, 805 00:34:34,113 --> 00:34:36,657 it seemed like he had decided to go for it. 806 00:34:37,450 --> 00:34:38,701 Two cheese pizzas, please. 807 00:34:38,785 --> 00:34:41,496 SERVER: Two cheese? Okay, ten minutes. 808 00:34:41,579 --> 00:34:43,956 -KOR: Okay. -NATHAN: But then, something happened. 809 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,834 ♪ (TENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 810 00:34:46,918 --> 00:34:49,128 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 811 00:34:49,212 --> 00:34:50,713 NATHAN: When he returned to the table 812 00:34:50,797 --> 00:34:52,048 to wait for his pizzas, 813 00:34:52,131 --> 00:34:56,511 Tricia wasn't talking. It was the perfect opportunity 814 00:34:56,594 --> 00:34:59,931 to begin his confession, but for some reason, 815 00:35:00,014 --> 00:35:01,140 he wasn't doing it. 816 00:35:04,435 --> 00:35:06,312 -Yeah. Yeah. -TRICIA: Okay. 817 00:35:06,395 --> 00:35:09,190 The pizza tastes better after a certain, uh, period of time, 818 00:35:09,273 --> 00:35:11,734 the pizza's good but then, after a couple of rounds, 819 00:35:11,818 --> 00:35:15,363 it really hits it in... (CHUCKLES, INHALES SHARPLY) 820 00:35:15,446 --> 00:35:16,906 Hits it to the last spot. 821 00:35:16,989 --> 00:35:19,158 Especially after a couple rums and cokes. 822 00:35:19,242 --> 00:35:21,202 ♪ (TENSE MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪ 823 00:35:43,599 --> 00:35:47,061 NATHAN: And as the clock kept ticking, he just sat there. 824 00:36:13,671 --> 00:36:14,714 (CLICKS TONGUE) 825 00:36:15,673 --> 00:36:17,216 In this case, ask over the lady 826 00:36:17,300 --> 00:36:19,218 who'd take the pizza, the faster it comes. 827 00:36:19,302 --> 00:36:21,012 TRICIA: 828 00:36:23,181 --> 00:36:24,307 Oh, my gosh. 829 00:36:24,390 --> 00:36:26,058 TRICIA: 830 00:36:26,142 --> 00:36:28,477 -(GRUNTS) -TRICIA: 831 00:36:33,816 --> 00:36:36,569 You know, there's been, uh, something on my mind 832 00:36:36,652 --> 00:36:39,822 -I've had to deal with and um... -(BELL DINGING) 833 00:36:39,906 --> 00:36:42,658 -You know, uh, maybe it's there? -That's right. 834 00:36:44,118 --> 00:36:45,161 Hang on a second. 835 00:36:46,495 --> 00:36:48,497 Okay. Okay. 836 00:36:48,581 --> 00:36:49,665 Almost around the corner. 837 00:36:52,627 --> 00:36:53,628 (GROANS) 838 00:36:56,339 --> 00:36:58,591 -What's up? -Hmm. They ring the bell, 839 00:36:58,674 --> 00:36:59,967 they're getting closer to making the pizza. 840 00:37:00,051 --> 00:37:02,553 Well, I guess so. Now what were you saying before? 841 00:37:02,637 --> 00:37:08,059 I feel bad that-- This has been bothering me a long time 842 00:37:08,142 --> 00:37:09,727 -to tell you this. -What's that? 843 00:37:09,810 --> 00:37:12,813 Um, my whole educational life has been, like, uh, 844 00:37:12,897 --> 00:37:14,857 -kind of a fraud. -Really? 845 00:37:14,941 --> 00:37:16,442 Yeah. 846 00:37:16,525 --> 00:37:19,403 See, remember when I was showing pictures of my graduation 847 00:37:19,487 --> 00:37:20,613 -a couple years ago? -Yeah, sure. 848 00:37:20,696 --> 00:37:22,156 In front of the gang and everything like that? 849 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,241 -Yeah. -And then you asked at the time, 850 00:37:24,325 --> 00:37:27,119 um, said that I got a master's degree. 851 00:37:27,203 --> 00:37:28,996 -TRICIA: Mm-hmm. -And I... 852 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,832 -And I kinda went along with it. -Really? 853 00:37:31,916 --> 00:37:33,292 -Yeah. -Wow. 854 00:37:33,376 --> 00:37:36,295 I felt kinda bad because I didn't wanna level with you 855 00:37:36,379 --> 00:37:38,339 -about that. -TRICIA: Okay. Well... 856 00:37:38,422 --> 00:37:40,883 I was only going for my bachelor's degree 857 00:37:40,967 --> 00:37:42,927 at the time. 858 00:37:43,010 --> 00:37:45,054 It's still pretty impressive. I mean, you know, lots of people 859 00:37:45,137 --> 00:37:46,430 -don't have master's degrees. -(BELL DINGING) 860 00:37:46,514 --> 00:37:47,848 -Yeah. -TRICIA: It's cool, I'm not surprised, 861 00:37:47,932 --> 00:37:50,184 but like, 'cause I thought you had a master's but... 862 00:37:50,268 --> 00:37:52,937 -(BELL DINGING) -Hang on a second, one second. 863 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:55,356 Yeah, thank you. 864 00:37:55,439 --> 00:37:56,816 -SERVER: Two cheese? -Yes. Thank you. 865 00:37:59,819 --> 00:38:03,072 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 866 00:38:12,498 --> 00:38:13,666 So, wow. I didn't realize you didn't have 867 00:38:13,749 --> 00:38:15,376 your master's degree, 'cause I thought you did. 868 00:38:15,459 --> 00:38:17,878 -That's what you said before. -Yeah, yeah, I've-- 869 00:38:17,962 --> 00:38:19,880 See the thing is that, um, what made it worse 870 00:38:19,964 --> 00:38:22,216 was I came into the group, the trivia group... 871 00:38:22,299 --> 00:38:23,884 -TRICIA: Mm-hmm. -...I was, like, the last person 872 00:38:23,968 --> 00:38:25,219 that even had a college degree. 873 00:38:25,302 --> 00:38:26,971 -Mm-hmm. -KOR: And I kinda felt like inferior 874 00:38:27,054 --> 00:38:28,306 -about that. -That's so silly, 875 00:38:28,389 --> 00:38:29,432 don't you feel upset about that. 876 00:38:29,515 --> 00:38:30,891 Lots of people barely even finish high school. 877 00:38:30,975 --> 00:38:33,102 My sister only got her GED like two years ago. 878 00:38:33,185 --> 00:38:34,520 (CHUCKLES) You know? 879 00:38:34,603 --> 00:38:36,605 Well, I just, um, you know, 880 00:38:36,689 --> 00:38:38,733 and I kept that lie going on all that time. 881 00:38:38,816 --> 00:38:41,861 And it kinda ate at me and then, you helped me, you know, 882 00:38:41,944 --> 00:38:44,697 apply for jobs, so it actually went that far to even 883 00:38:44,780 --> 00:38:46,532 send my résumé just to appease you. 884 00:38:46,615 --> 00:38:49,535 Oh, wow, I appreciate that so much, I had no idea. 885 00:38:49,618 --> 00:38:51,537 And I feel-- You know? I just... 886 00:38:51,620 --> 00:38:53,247 ♪ (SOFT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 887 00:38:53,330 --> 00:38:54,957 My friendship with you means a great deal. 888 00:38:55,041 --> 00:38:56,208 -TRICIA: Me too. -And I don't want you 889 00:38:56,292 --> 00:38:59,378 to think that I would even continue lying to you. 890 00:38:59,462 --> 00:39:01,338 But you know, I've been living this lie all this time and 891 00:39:01,422 --> 00:39:04,008 -I kinda felt bad about that. -Well, it's so sweet to finally tell me, I had no idea. 892 00:39:04,091 --> 00:39:05,634 But, like-- It's, you know, it's very brave of you 893 00:39:05,718 --> 00:39:07,303 to tell me this, and I really had no clue. 894 00:39:07,386 --> 00:39:09,805 NATHAN: Instead of trying to move on to another topic, 895 00:39:09,889 --> 00:39:13,601 Kor sat with her for the next hour-and-a-half and began 896 00:39:13,684 --> 00:39:16,228 sharing things that he had never told Tricia 897 00:39:16,312 --> 00:39:18,647 in their nearly 20 years of friendship. 898 00:39:18,731 --> 00:39:21,901 ...And my father used the situation where he sent 899 00:39:21,984 --> 00:39:24,904 the child support, which could be for my college education, 900 00:39:24,987 --> 00:39:26,614 -for me and my sister. -TRICIA: Wow! 901 00:39:26,697 --> 00:39:29,992 And by the time we came of age, he doesn't wanna pay for it. 902 00:39:30,076 --> 00:39:32,870 Wow, that's rough. I'm sorry to hear that. I really am. 903 00:39:32,953 --> 00:39:35,247 KOR: And what made it worse was when I was graduating... 904 00:39:35,331 --> 00:39:40,044 ♪ (SERENE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 905 00:39:42,505 --> 00:39:44,298 NATHAN: While we were practicing, 906 00:39:44,381 --> 00:39:45,382 I also had Kor 907 00:39:45,466 --> 00:39:47,760 rehearse the aftermath of his confession 908 00:39:47,843 --> 00:39:49,553 beyond the actual night. 909 00:39:51,097 --> 00:39:53,682 Whether it be the torment of a friendship lost... 910 00:39:56,227 --> 00:39:59,605 or the joy of a friendship strengthened. 911 00:39:59,688 --> 00:40:02,942 Where his confession opens the floodgates to actually 912 00:40:03,025 --> 00:40:04,902 talking for the first time. 913 00:40:04,985 --> 00:40:06,195 This is so nice, it's like, 914 00:40:06,278 --> 00:40:07,822 like such a difference from just normally 915 00:40:07,905 --> 00:40:10,157 when we're hanging out in the city in a bar, you know, 916 00:40:10,241 --> 00:40:11,742 just playing trivia and... 917 00:40:11,826 --> 00:40:13,828 NATHAN: Maybe it's easiest to choose a path 918 00:40:13,911 --> 00:40:16,205 when you can live the future first. 919 00:40:17,790 --> 00:40:20,668 To free yourself from doubt and regret, 920 00:40:21,877 --> 00:40:23,671 to always know the answers. 921 00:40:23,754 --> 00:40:25,256 ALEX: (OVER TV) As a symbol of support 922 00:40:25,339 --> 00:40:26,549 for those living with AIDS 923 00:40:26,632 --> 00:40:28,467 -and HIV. -KOR: So, what is a ribbon? 924 00:40:28,551 --> 00:40:30,553 -FAKE TRICIA: Oh, yeah. -Red ribbons. 925 00:40:30,636 --> 00:40:32,263 -I would have lost a point... -FAKE TRICIA: Yeah. 926 00:40:32,346 --> 00:40:33,514 ...on the color. 927 00:40:35,391 --> 00:40:36,892 ♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 928 00:40:36,976 --> 00:40:40,187 -So, how are you feeling? -Fantastic. 929 00:40:40,271 --> 00:40:43,065 We actually did better than expected, 930 00:40:43,149 --> 00:40:46,527 -when we actually won. -Well, congrats. 931 00:40:46,610 --> 00:40:49,363 Yeah. There were questions that were in my wheelhouse. 932 00:40:49,446 --> 00:40:51,407 The questions that were in my wheelhouse, I was able 933 00:40:51,490 --> 00:40:55,411 to answer those particular questions correctly. 934 00:40:55,494 --> 00:40:57,454 You got everything off your chest, 935 00:40:57,538 --> 00:40:58,998 and it must feel good. 936 00:40:59,081 --> 00:41:03,794 I got it off my chest, and I still won that night. 937 00:41:03,878 --> 00:41:05,004 -NATHAN: Trivia-- -Which is an ex-- 938 00:41:05,087 --> 00:41:06,297 I won a trivia night, 939 00:41:06,380 --> 00:41:09,341 and that's the extra cherry on the sundae, I guess. 940 00:41:12,136 --> 00:41:13,804 There's something I need to... 941 00:41:15,014 --> 00:41:16,140 come clean about. 942 00:41:16,724 --> 00:41:17,766 -Um... -Oh. 943 00:41:19,185 --> 00:41:22,646 So, I knew what the trivia answers were going to be tonight 944 00:41:22,730 --> 00:41:25,983 and I taught you them in advance without you knowing, 945 00:41:26,066 --> 00:41:29,528 and I know you're against cheating and this isn't cheating 946 00:41:29,612 --> 00:41:32,531 because you actually didn't know I was doing it, 947 00:41:32,615 --> 00:41:36,535 but I was just-- wanted you to focus on the confession, 948 00:41:36,619 --> 00:41:39,538 and I wanted your confidence to be up, but I feel terrible 949 00:41:39,622 --> 00:41:41,957 about it, and I just-- I'm sorry. 950 00:41:42,041 --> 00:41:43,375 I wanna say I'm sorry. 951 00:41:47,504 --> 00:41:51,258 Uh, yeah, I... Um... 952 00:41:51,342 --> 00:41:54,345 Okay, I understand what you're saying and um... 953 00:41:55,471 --> 00:41:58,515 I appreciate your motivation, but... 954 00:41:58,599 --> 00:42:02,228 you've tainted, you've ruined the whole thing for me, 955 00:42:02,311 --> 00:42:04,647 'cause I knew the answers, I knew the answers 956 00:42:04,730 --> 00:42:08,400 and I'm on TV now, and everybody now is gonna think 957 00:42:08,484 --> 00:42:10,736 that I didn't know them, that I'm a fake and you... 958 00:42:10,819 --> 00:42:13,739 (INHALES SHARPLY) You know how important this was for me? 959 00:42:13,822 --> 00:42:14,949 This is a mistake. 960 00:42:15,032 --> 00:42:18,827 It was a huge mistake, and you fucked this all up. 961 00:42:20,621 --> 00:42:22,498 You're an awful... 962 00:42:23,874 --> 00:42:24,917 awful person. 963 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:33,884 ♪ (“PURE IMAGINATION” BY GENE WILDER PLAYING) ♪ 964 00:42:39,890 --> 00:42:42,810 (DISTANT SIREN WAILING) 965 00:42:42,893 --> 00:42:45,771 I think you're... a great guy. 966 00:42:46,855 --> 00:42:48,148 Like you're a great person. 967 00:42:49,275 --> 00:42:52,111 Oh, well, thank you for the compliment. 968 00:42:52,194 --> 00:42:54,321 Yeah, just... 969 00:42:54,405 --> 00:42:57,866 I don't give compliments a lot, so I wanted to come clean 970 00:42:57,950 --> 00:43:00,411 about just kind of saying the compliment. 971 00:43:00,494 --> 00:43:01,954 I don't affirm people enough. 972 00:43:02,037 --> 00:43:04,623 -Oh. -NATHAN: Yeah, so... 973 00:43:04,707 --> 00:43:07,126 -It's just kind of like-- Yeah. -That's nice of you to say. 974 00:43:08,627 --> 00:43:10,879 -Thank you, -You are, you are. 975 00:43:10,963 --> 00:43:13,465 -KOR: That's very touching. -Of course. 976 00:43:15,926 --> 00:43:19,305 ♪ Come with me and you'll be ♪ 977 00:43:19,388 --> 00:43:23,350 ♪ In a world Of pure imagination ♪ 978 00:43:23,434 --> 00:43:30,399 ♪ Take a look and you'll see Into your imagination ♪ 979 00:43:38,824 --> 00:43:42,536 ♪ We'll begin with a spin ♪ 980 00:43:42,619 --> 00:43:46,749 ♪ Traveling in the world Of my creation ♪ 981 00:43:46,832 --> 00:43:50,753 ♪ What we'll see will defy ♪ 982 00:43:51,879 --> 00:43:54,590 ♪ Explanation ♪ 983 00:44:02,473 --> 00:44:10,397 ♪ If you want to view paradise Simply look around and view it ♪ 984 00:44:10,481 --> 00:44:16,904 ♪ Anything you want to, do it Want to change the world?♪ 985 00:44:18,489 --> 00:44:20,574 ♪ There's nothing to it ♪