1 00:00:08,259 --> 00:00:11,095 [Depeche Mode's "Just Can't Get Enough"] 2 00:00:11,137 --> 00:00:14,223 * * 3 00:00:14,265 --> 00:00:16,809 - Hi, I'm Terry Thomas, 4 00:00:16,851 --> 00:00:21,189 and I'm selling old-fashioned lemonade. 5 00:00:21,230 --> 00:00:23,399 - Enjoy your lemonade. God bless America. 6 00:00:23,441 --> 00:00:24,817 - Hey, Terry. 7 00:00:24,859 --> 00:00:27,487 You might be doing better business than my bakery. 8 00:00:27,528 --> 00:00:29,781 - I always toss my day-old brownies, 9 00:00:29,822 --> 00:00:32,158 but what if you sold them instead? 10 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,702 I could give you 20% of the profits, 11 00:00:34,744 --> 00:00:36,037 could be a win-win. 12 00:00:37,580 --> 00:00:40,917 - Wow, Terry, you were right. White people love lemonade. 13 00:00:40,958 --> 00:00:42,293 - It's been a good week. 14 00:00:42,335 --> 00:00:44,879 Let's treat ourselves to real Lucky Charms. 15 00:00:44,921 --> 00:00:47,757 - Ooh, and real milk, not the powdered kind. 16 00:00:47,799 --> 00:00:49,967 - * I just can't seem to get enough * 17 00:00:50,009 --> 00:00:52,220 - Proud of you, Terry. 18 00:00:52,261 --> 00:00:54,972 - Terry. 19 00:00:55,014 --> 00:00:57,975 You want some cereal? 20 00:00:58,017 --> 00:00:59,268 - No, thanks. I'm good. 21 00:00:59,310 --> 00:01:01,479 - Don't forget Jimmy's lacrosse game today. 22 00:01:01,521 --> 00:01:04,357 Jimmy, get your ass out of bed. 23 00:01:08,069 --> 00:01:09,445 - Maya, I'm telling you, 24 00:01:09,487 --> 00:01:11,447 you could get real money for that beadwork. 25 00:01:11,489 --> 00:01:14,158 - I just do this to relax and spend time with Grandma. 26 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:15,952 - Relax? You're 12. 27 00:01:15,993 --> 00:01:17,829 No 12-year-olds have stress. 28 00:01:17,870 --> 00:01:20,206 Well, Malala, 29 00:01:20,248 --> 00:01:21,749 and Greta what's-her-name, but that's it. 30 00:01:21,791 --> 00:01:25,461 It's nice that Grandma's teaching you this, 31 00:01:25,503 --> 00:01:27,004 but there's a saying: 32 00:01:27,046 --> 00:01:30,174 teach a man to bead, you feed him for a day, 33 00:01:30,216 --> 00:01:31,926 but teach a man the fundamentals 34 00:01:31,968 --> 00:01:33,177 of supply-side economics-- 35 00:01:33,219 --> 00:01:35,847 - Dad, this is just for a friend. 36 00:01:35,888 --> 00:01:39,267 Can you not be weird and just be cool for once? 37 00:01:41,853 --> 00:01:43,730 - Bet you could get 350 for that. 38 00:01:43,771 --> 00:01:46,023 400 from a white person. - Dad! 39 00:01:46,065 --> 00:01:49,026 [upbeat music] 40 00:01:49,068 --> 00:01:55,950 * * 41 00:02:16,095 --> 00:02:20,016 [country music] 42 00:02:20,058 --> 00:02:21,267 - You are the worst. 43 00:02:21,309 --> 00:02:22,727 - Good morning to you, too, Reagan. 44 00:02:22,769 --> 00:02:23,853 - Ha ha ha. 45 00:02:23,895 --> 00:02:25,229 You're suing Nathan 46 00:02:25,271 --> 00:02:27,356 after you told me you wanted to get on his good side? 47 00:02:27,398 --> 00:02:29,358 Wait, are you using me to get to him? 48 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:30,902 - Of course not. 49 00:02:30,943 --> 00:02:32,987 I wanted you on my team, and had you joined, 50 00:02:33,029 --> 00:02:35,073 you'd have known about this lawsuit sooner. 51 00:02:35,114 --> 00:02:36,407 - Okay, don't act like 52 00:02:36,449 --> 00:02:38,242 you're not doing the things that you're doing. 53 00:02:38,284 --> 00:02:39,869 - Sorry. Sorry I'm late. 54 00:02:39,911 --> 00:02:42,580 I'm not used to walking from employee parking. 55 00:02:42,622 --> 00:02:44,207 Ooh, that's a hoof. 56 00:02:44,248 --> 00:02:45,583 - Jess, what are you doing here? 57 00:02:45,625 --> 00:02:46,667 Wait, is Auntie Vonny okay? 58 00:02:46,709 --> 00:02:48,503 - Oh, yeah, my mom's fine. 59 00:02:48,544 --> 00:02:50,046 Although she'd be doing a lot better 60 00:02:50,088 --> 00:02:51,506 if the Bruins were winning. 61 00:02:51,547 --> 00:02:55,093 [laughter] - Okay, what's happening? 62 00:02:55,134 --> 00:02:58,262 - My assistant Geraldine met someone on FarmersOnly.com 63 00:02:58,304 --> 00:03:00,098 and wants to see where it goes. 64 00:03:00,139 --> 00:03:02,266 I've hired Jess to fill in when she's away. 65 00:03:02,308 --> 00:03:04,102 - Oh. - Which is great 66 00:03:04,143 --> 00:03:06,229 'cause I have a garage full of leggings I can't move, 67 00:03:06,270 --> 00:03:09,440 and no one's buying my raffle tickets on Instagram. 68 00:03:09,482 --> 00:03:11,818 - See, Reagan? There's a benefit to casinos. 69 00:03:11,859 --> 00:03:14,529 They provide good jobs to people in our community. 70 00:03:14,570 --> 00:03:16,447 - Okay, yeah. I see what you're doing, 71 00:03:16,489 --> 00:03:17,698 and I don't like it, 72 00:03:17,740 --> 00:03:18,991 but my cousin really needs a job, 73 00:03:19,033 --> 00:03:20,952 and I can't buy any more leggings, so thank you, 74 00:03:20,993 --> 00:03:22,954 but also I am onto you, 75 00:03:22,995 --> 00:03:24,956 and you're not gonna get away with this. 76 00:03:24,997 --> 00:03:26,916 - Okay, sounds good. 77 00:03:26,958 --> 00:03:29,919 [upbeat music] 78 00:03:29,961 --> 00:03:34,132 * * 79 00:03:34,173 --> 00:03:36,384 - I know it's your first day, but there's a lot going on, 80 00:03:36,426 --> 00:03:37,719 and you'll have to play catch-up. 81 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,178 - Gotcha. 82 00:03:39,220 --> 00:03:42,849 That reporter Josh Carter has been waiting in the lobby. 83 00:03:42,890 --> 00:03:45,101 He's cute. 84 00:03:45,143 --> 00:03:47,311 I heard that Reagan snagged out with him. 85 00:03:47,353 --> 00:03:49,355 Ha! - Really? 86 00:03:51,607 --> 00:03:52,900 Interesting intel. 87 00:03:52,942 --> 00:03:54,569 Keep him on ice for ten minutes, 88 00:03:54,610 --> 00:03:57,655 and don't offer him anything to eat or drink. 89 00:03:57,697 --> 00:04:00,491 - That feels real mean. - It's tactical. 90 00:04:00,533 --> 00:04:01,951 We need to control this narrative 91 00:04:01,993 --> 00:04:05,830 before someone else does and paints us as the villains. 92 00:04:05,872 --> 00:04:07,373 - Ah. 93 00:04:07,415 --> 00:04:09,459 - So after you bring Josh in, set a call with the lawyers. 94 00:04:09,500 --> 00:04:11,586 I need to see if we're any closer to tying Rutherford Inc. 95 00:04:11,627 --> 00:04:12,795 to the lawsuit. 96 00:04:12,837 --> 00:04:14,338 - Mm, smart. 97 00:04:14,380 --> 00:04:16,132 Good idea. 98 00:04:16,174 --> 00:04:17,675 Should I be writing this down? 99 00:04:19,260 --> 00:04:22,513 - Just go. - Okay. 100 00:04:22,555 --> 00:04:25,224 * * 101 00:04:25,266 --> 00:04:27,685 - Josh, please, have a seat. 102 00:04:27,727 --> 00:04:29,312 I've read some of your articles. 103 00:04:29,353 --> 00:04:30,730 You're very good. 104 00:04:30,772 --> 00:04:34,192 I particularly like the series on fake service animals. 105 00:04:34,233 --> 00:04:36,903 - Thank you. That one was kind of personal. 106 00:04:36,944 --> 00:04:38,863 I was attacked 107 00:04:38,905 --> 00:04:42,241 by an "emotional support" lemur on an Amtrak train. 108 00:04:42,283 --> 00:04:43,576 - Well, it was evenhanded. 109 00:04:43,618 --> 00:04:45,787 You were very fair to that lemur. 110 00:04:45,828 --> 00:04:48,831 What, uh, drew you to journalism? 111 00:04:48,873 --> 00:04:50,374 - The money. 112 00:04:50,416 --> 00:04:52,085 [both laughing] 113 00:04:52,126 --> 00:04:54,128 Yeah, it's sad people know that's funny, 114 00:04:54,170 --> 00:04:58,883 but seriously, not everyone gets to tell their story. 115 00:04:58,925 --> 00:05:01,928 Journalism gives a voice to the voiceless. 116 00:05:03,846 --> 00:05:05,848 - I appreciate your giving me a voice here. 117 00:05:05,890 --> 00:05:08,059 The story behind the lawsuit is simple-- 118 00:05:08,101 --> 00:05:11,270 - Actually, I'd love to get some background first. 119 00:05:11,312 --> 00:05:13,856 Maybe just tell me about you? 120 00:05:13,898 --> 00:05:15,817 - Like how I got involved with the lawsuit? 121 00:05:15,858 --> 00:05:17,068 - No, no. 122 00:05:17,110 --> 00:05:18,236 Uh, I mean, 123 00:05:18,277 --> 00:05:22,532 how did you get into this line of work? 124 00:05:22,573 --> 00:05:25,243 [beeps] 125 00:05:25,284 --> 00:05:27,954 - To be honest, I wasn't planning any of this. 126 00:05:27,995 --> 00:05:31,165 I wanted to be a musician. I was actually in a band. 127 00:05:31,207 --> 00:05:33,042 - Right, Rage Fuel. - You heard of us? 128 00:05:33,084 --> 00:05:34,794 - Well, it came up in my research. 129 00:05:34,836 --> 00:05:37,588 I couldn't quite tell how popular you were. 130 00:05:37,630 --> 00:05:39,424 - Uh, well, have you heard of Soundgarden? 131 00:05:39,465 --> 00:05:40,800 - Did you tour with them? 132 00:05:40,842 --> 00:05:42,635 - No, but we sounded just like them. 133 00:05:42,677 --> 00:05:44,095 Everybody said it. 134 00:05:44,137 --> 00:05:46,139 We were pretty cool, 135 00:05:46,180 --> 00:05:48,057 but that's in the past. 136 00:05:48,099 --> 00:05:51,269 Now I'm a family man. Wife, two kids. 137 00:05:51,310 --> 00:05:52,979 Everything I do is for them and their future. 138 00:05:53,020 --> 00:05:55,523 - Are they your motivation for pursuing the lawsuit? 139 00:05:55,565 --> 00:05:59,110 - Josh, the tribe is a sovereign nation 140 00:05:59,152 --> 00:06:01,946 with its own government headed by a separate chairperson. 141 00:06:01,988 --> 00:06:04,198 I've been asked to be the face of the lawsuit 142 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:08,077 because, spoiler alert, I'm a bit of a talker, 143 00:06:08,119 --> 00:06:10,079 but this isn't Terry Thomas's plan. 144 00:06:10,121 --> 00:06:12,582 I'm just the guy who happens to be here right now. 145 00:06:12,623 --> 00:06:14,792 - Huh. 146 00:06:14,834 --> 00:06:16,878 Sorry, help me with this, 147 00:06:16,919 --> 00:06:20,631 because this article in "Indian Gaming Quarterly" 148 00:06:20,673 --> 00:06:22,842 says exactly the opposite. 149 00:06:22,884 --> 00:06:26,554 Quote, "There's stagnation in the tribe's desire 150 00:06:26,596 --> 00:06:28,097 "to use the courts, 151 00:06:28,139 --> 00:06:31,726 but I am determined to move us forward." 152 00:06:31,768 --> 00:06:34,604 So which is it? 153 00:06:34,645 --> 00:06:35,980 [tense music] 154 00:06:36,022 --> 00:06:37,356 [knocks] 155 00:06:37,398 --> 00:06:39,317 - Hey, sorry to bug, 156 00:06:39,358 --> 00:06:41,778 but Reagan and Nathan are here. 157 00:06:41,819 --> 00:06:45,073 - Reagan Wells? - Mm-hmm. 158 00:06:45,114 --> 00:06:46,741 What did you want me to do with them? 159 00:06:46,783 --> 00:06:48,868 - One moment. 160 00:06:48,910 --> 00:06:51,162 Nathan, I'm a little busy right now. 161 00:06:51,204 --> 00:06:53,664 - Trust me, I would have loved to have settled this sooner 162 00:06:53,706 --> 00:06:54,832 had I known. 163 00:06:54,874 --> 00:06:56,375 - Okay, once again, 164 00:06:56,417 --> 00:06:58,169 Terry didn't tell me he was gonna mess with you. 165 00:06:58,211 --> 00:07:00,338 - I'm not messing with anyone. None of this is personal. 166 00:07:00,380 --> 00:07:03,341 - It feels a little personal, since you're suing my person. 167 00:07:03,383 --> 00:07:05,176 - I think it's best if we let our lawyers untangle 168 00:07:05,218 --> 00:07:06,803 the language in the founders' document 169 00:07:06,844 --> 00:07:08,096 before we speak on this. 170 00:07:08,137 --> 00:07:09,305 - I know every word of that document. 171 00:07:09,347 --> 00:07:11,974 It's sitting in my museum. I teach about it. 172 00:07:12,016 --> 00:07:14,394 I even wrote a rap about it. 173 00:07:14,435 --> 00:07:15,853 Before "Hamilton." 174 00:07:15,895 --> 00:07:17,397 - Then perhaps you remember a clause 175 00:07:17,438 --> 00:07:18,523 where your family promised 176 00:07:18,564 --> 00:07:20,066 to provide goods of appreciation 177 00:07:20,108 --> 00:07:22,527 from the date of the town's founding in perpetuity. 178 00:07:22,568 --> 00:07:23,528 - Oh, you mean this part? 179 00:07:23,569 --> 00:07:24,862 * In exchange for land * 180 00:07:24,904 --> 00:07:26,322 * We promised corn and pelts of fur * 181 00:07:26,364 --> 00:07:28,574 * 'Twas a fair and honest deal, my good sir * 182 00:07:28,616 --> 00:07:30,034 - Ay! 183 00:07:30,076 --> 00:07:32,745 - Yeah, you should see it in costume. 184 00:07:32,787 --> 00:07:36,040 Terry, that part of the contract was ceremonial. 185 00:07:36,082 --> 00:07:38,960 - I recall a certain Founders Day speech 186 00:07:39,001 --> 00:07:40,712 in which you shouted to the whole town 187 00:07:40,753 --> 00:07:43,297 that the document was legally binding. 188 00:07:43,339 --> 00:07:44,674 - Oh, shit. 189 00:07:44,716 --> 00:07:46,217 - First of all, I wasn't shouting. 190 00:07:46,259 --> 00:07:48,177 I was overcoming some challenging acoustics. 191 00:07:48,219 --> 00:07:50,680 Second of all, the document is legally binding 192 00:07:50,722 --> 00:07:52,181 when it comes to land settlement. 193 00:07:52,223 --> 00:07:54,016 The rest is, like, jimble-jumble. 194 00:07:54,058 --> 00:07:56,310 - Then let the lawyers sort out the jimble from the jumble. 195 00:07:56,352 --> 00:07:58,771 Now if you don't mind, I'm in the middle of an NPR interview. 196 00:07:58,813 --> 00:08:00,940 - Oh, with Josh Carter 197 00:08:00,982 --> 00:08:03,735 with the beautiful face and the shoulders? 198 00:08:03,776 --> 00:08:05,445 - Get it, cuz. 199 00:08:05,486 --> 00:08:08,281 - Terry, there's gotta be a way we can find some time 200 00:08:08,322 --> 00:08:09,741 to just hash this out. 201 00:08:09,782 --> 00:08:11,993 Do you play golf? - No, I do not. 202 00:08:12,034 --> 00:08:14,203 - Perfect, neither do I. We can take lessons together. 203 00:08:14,245 --> 00:08:16,330 - Nathan, I'm not going to budge. 204 00:08:17,707 --> 00:08:20,793 - Fine. Message received. 205 00:08:20,835 --> 00:08:22,670 Come on, Reagan. 206 00:08:22,712 --> 00:08:24,088 - I'm also storming out, 207 00:08:24,130 --> 00:08:26,674 but I will peel off at the Cultural Center. 208 00:08:29,427 --> 00:08:30,762 - No more interruptions. 209 00:08:30,803 --> 00:08:32,930 This Josh is way more of a reporter 210 00:08:32,972 --> 00:08:34,348 than I anticipated. 211 00:08:34,390 --> 00:08:36,809 I don't want him to see Nathan make a scene. 212 00:08:36,851 --> 00:08:40,605 * * 213 00:08:40,646 --> 00:08:42,231 On second thought, 214 00:08:42,273 --> 00:08:44,984 if Nathan returns, let him right in. 215 00:08:46,486 --> 00:08:49,155 - Oh, I'm sorry. Were you still talking to me? 216 00:08:56,996 --> 00:09:00,166 [tense music] 217 00:09:00,208 --> 00:09:03,336 - I'm sorry, but that is a really beautiful necklace. 218 00:09:03,378 --> 00:09:05,838 - Uh, my daughter, Maya, made it. 219 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:06,923 It's raised beadwork. 220 00:09:06,964 --> 00:09:08,174 She's participating 221 00:09:08,216 --> 00:09:10,009 in a cultural revitalization program. 222 00:09:10,051 --> 00:09:11,719 We're very proud that the casino's revenue 223 00:09:11,761 --> 00:09:14,138 helps fund programs like this. 224 00:09:14,180 --> 00:09:17,850 - Yes, I'm sure the casino does a lot of good work. 225 00:09:17,892 --> 00:09:20,186 - Let me ask you, ballpark, 226 00:09:20,228 --> 00:09:21,687 how much would you pay for this? 227 00:09:21,729 --> 00:09:23,773 - Oh, I'm not-- 228 00:09:23,815 --> 00:09:25,525 I don't feel comfortable with, um-- 229 00:09:25,566 --> 00:09:26,776 - Think about it. 230 00:09:26,818 --> 00:09:28,611 You're walking in Carroll Gardens, 231 00:09:28,653 --> 00:09:30,863 probably just had some ramen 232 00:09:30,905 --> 00:09:32,198 and a can of natural wine, 233 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,159 and you walk by a store with this in the window. 234 00:09:35,201 --> 00:09:36,619 How much are you shelling out? 235 00:09:36,661 --> 00:09:39,455 - Okay, very specific. 236 00:09:39,497 --> 00:09:40,832 Disconcertingly accurate. 237 00:09:40,873 --> 00:09:42,875 Uh, I don't want to offend. 238 00:09:42,917 --> 00:09:45,461 I'm guessing maybe 500 bucks? 239 00:09:47,130 --> 00:09:50,466 - 500. Wow. [chuckles] 240 00:09:50,508 --> 00:09:53,302 - So being business-driven 241 00:09:53,344 --> 00:09:56,931 is obviously beneficial to running a casino, 242 00:09:56,973 --> 00:10:01,018 but is it complicated culturally? 243 00:10:01,060 --> 00:10:02,645 - How do you mean? 244 00:10:02,687 --> 00:10:05,022 - Well, just that casinos have been 245 00:10:05,064 --> 00:10:06,607 so divisive amongst Native people. 246 00:10:06,649 --> 00:10:09,235 It seems like unfettered capitalism would be 247 00:10:09,277 --> 00:10:12,280 at odds with a lot of your cultural beliefs. 248 00:10:13,906 --> 00:10:16,159 - Well, Josh, it's a challenging situation, 249 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,411 but compromises have to be made. 250 00:10:18,453 --> 00:10:21,122 I drive a car, I have a microwave, 251 00:10:21,164 --> 00:10:23,708 and I'm somehow able to live with myself 252 00:10:23,750 --> 00:10:25,460 and my cultural beliefs. 253 00:10:25,501 --> 00:10:27,003 [watch beeps] 254 00:10:27,045 --> 00:10:29,297 I'm sorry. Oh. 255 00:10:29,338 --> 00:10:32,425 My son has a lacrosse game, and I should be there. 256 00:10:32,467 --> 00:10:35,887 So I'll have to wrap this up early. 257 00:10:35,928 --> 00:10:37,305 - I can wait. - Really? 258 00:10:37,346 --> 00:10:39,140 - Yeah, I've got nothing but time, 259 00:10:39,182 --> 00:10:41,142 and it's not like you're trying to avoid my questions. 260 00:10:41,184 --> 00:10:43,436 You just have a lacrosse game, right? 261 00:10:43,478 --> 00:10:45,104 - Right. 262 00:10:45,146 --> 00:10:47,273 - Come on, defense. Yes! [cheering and applause] 263 00:10:47,315 --> 00:10:48,191 Good defense! 264 00:10:48,232 --> 00:10:51,444 Go, go, go. Nice pass. 265 00:10:51,486 --> 00:10:52,779 You're late. 266 00:10:52,820 --> 00:10:54,906 - I had a minor work issue. 267 00:10:54,947 --> 00:10:57,033 - Come on. 268 00:10:57,075 --> 00:10:58,367 - Hey, sweetie, 269 00:10:58,409 --> 00:11:01,746 a guy at work said he'd pay $500 for this. 270 00:11:01,788 --> 00:11:02,872 [whistle blows] 271 00:11:02,914 --> 00:11:06,125 [cheering] 272 00:11:06,167 --> 00:11:08,336 - Babe, if you keep pushing her, 273 00:11:08,378 --> 00:11:09,754 she's just gonna dig in harder. 274 00:11:09,796 --> 00:11:11,464 You gotta have a light touch. 275 00:11:11,506 --> 00:11:13,007 Christ, Wade! 276 00:11:13,049 --> 00:11:15,009 My grandmother could see that was a failure to advance, 277 00:11:15,051 --> 00:11:17,637 and she has botched LASIK surgery! 278 00:11:17,678 --> 00:11:19,514 - Shh. 279 00:11:19,555 --> 00:11:20,973 - Rhonda, I beg you 280 00:11:21,015 --> 00:11:23,142 for your own good, do not shush this woman. 281 00:11:23,184 --> 00:11:25,103 - Oh, she should shush herself. 282 00:11:25,144 --> 00:11:27,605 That blouse is louder than I could ever be, 283 00:11:27,647 --> 00:11:30,775 but seriously, hon, don't sweat this Maya stuff. 284 00:11:30,817 --> 00:11:32,235 - Look at Jimmy. 285 00:11:32,276 --> 00:11:34,904 Good grades, champion powwow dancer, lacrosse king. 286 00:11:34,946 --> 00:11:37,281 He's like Captain Minishonka out there. 287 00:11:37,323 --> 00:11:39,867 Meanwhile, Maya gives away 288 00:11:39,909 --> 00:11:42,537 her beadwork for free. 289 00:11:42,578 --> 00:11:45,331 She's my daughter, and I would take a bullet for her, 290 00:11:45,373 --> 00:11:48,292 but honestly, babe, I think she may be a dud. 291 00:11:48,334 --> 00:11:50,044 She had the nerve to call me weird. 292 00:11:50,086 --> 00:11:52,505 I'm the least weird dad. 293 00:11:52,547 --> 00:11:54,924 Rick Leclaire, he roller skates to work. 294 00:11:54,966 --> 00:11:57,009 - [chuckles] 295 00:11:57,051 --> 00:11:59,721 I just think if we give her enough space-- 296 00:11:59,762 --> 00:12:01,889 that's raking! 297 00:12:01,931 --> 00:12:03,349 So help me, Wade, I am in heels, 298 00:12:03,391 --> 00:12:06,227 but I will run across this field and choke you! 299 00:12:07,395 --> 00:12:09,188 Yeah, I'm just happy the kids have time 300 00:12:09,230 --> 00:12:12,108 for their culture and the community. 301 00:12:12,150 --> 00:12:14,610 Isn't that the whole goal? 302 00:12:14,652 --> 00:12:19,115 - Yeah, but how's she gonna make her way in the world? 303 00:12:19,157 --> 00:12:20,199 - You know, when I was Maya's age, 304 00:12:20,241 --> 00:12:21,367 my folks always told me, 305 00:12:21,409 --> 00:12:23,703 "You'll never be Buffy Sainte-Marie," 306 00:12:23,745 --> 00:12:25,621 and I wasn't, 307 00:12:25,663 --> 00:12:28,082 but I was Miss Indian World. 308 00:12:28,124 --> 00:12:29,667 - How does that relate? - It doesn't. 309 00:12:29,709 --> 00:12:32,420 I just wanted to remind you you married up. 310 00:12:35,715 --> 00:12:39,343 - I'm cool, right? - Cooler than Billy Jack. 311 00:12:41,012 --> 00:12:42,638 [cheers and applause] 312 00:12:42,680 --> 00:12:46,100 Jimmy, yes! Yes, son! 313 00:12:46,142 --> 00:12:49,187 - That's how you do it. - Whoo! 314 00:12:49,228 --> 00:12:51,314 We're headed to the grocery. 315 00:12:51,355 --> 00:12:53,941 - Get some of that fancy bologna you like. 316 00:12:53,983 --> 00:12:57,070 - It's mortadella, and thank you. 317 00:12:57,111 --> 00:12:58,821 - And your friend Benny's 318 00:12:58,863 --> 00:12:59,989 lacrosse stick's looking ragged. 319 00:13:00,031 --> 00:13:01,449 Buy a new one, 320 00:13:01,491 --> 00:13:03,743 but tell him it's an extra you had from home. 321 00:13:03,785 --> 00:13:05,495 - Thanks, Dad. 322 00:13:05,536 --> 00:13:07,163 I can keep the change, though, right? 323 00:13:07,205 --> 00:13:10,917 - Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, no. 324 00:13:10,958 --> 00:13:14,504 And Maya, you come with me. 325 00:13:14,545 --> 00:13:17,465 [soft music] 326 00:13:17,507 --> 00:13:19,550 * * 327 00:13:19,592 --> 00:13:21,552 I have a proposition. 328 00:13:21,594 --> 00:13:25,515 I pay you to make 20 pieces of beadwork. 329 00:13:25,556 --> 00:13:28,309 Five are yours to do with what you will. 330 00:13:28,351 --> 00:13:30,937 - I would give them away. 331 00:13:30,978 --> 00:13:33,314 - And the rest I sell for you, 332 00:13:33,356 --> 00:13:37,193 unless you want to learn from your old man, 333 00:13:37,235 --> 00:13:38,778 maybe start a company together? 334 00:13:38,820 --> 00:13:40,988 I have some logo ideas. 335 00:13:41,030 --> 00:13:42,198 No? 336 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,200 Okay. I sell them. 337 00:13:44,242 --> 00:13:46,744 2/3 of the profits go to your college fund, 338 00:13:46,786 --> 00:13:49,372 and the rest is yours to spend. 339 00:13:49,414 --> 00:13:51,165 Deal? 340 00:13:51,207 --> 00:13:52,708 - Counteroffer. 341 00:13:52,750 --> 00:13:55,294 How about...I have no interest in starting a business. 342 00:13:55,336 --> 00:13:59,465 I make 20 pieces, and I keep 20 pieces. 343 00:13:59,507 --> 00:14:03,177 - Fine, then no more allowance. - Fine. 344 00:14:03,219 --> 00:14:04,637 - And no more going to the Elder's Lodge 345 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:06,013 to bead with grandma. 346 00:14:06,055 --> 00:14:08,307 - Are you serious? - No, of course not. 347 00:14:08,349 --> 00:14:10,143 That would be mean. She's a very old woman. 348 00:14:10,184 --> 00:14:12,437 - Why are you so obsessed with money? 349 00:14:12,478 --> 00:14:16,232 Is everything, like, a deal to you? 350 00:14:16,274 --> 00:14:18,776 [engine turns over] - Oh, good, the truck started 351 00:14:18,818 --> 00:14:20,820 because I put gas in it, 352 00:14:20,862 --> 00:14:22,113 which costs money 353 00:14:22,155 --> 00:14:24,991 because literally everything costs money. 354 00:14:25,032 --> 00:14:26,617 - Then why am I even in school? 355 00:14:26,659 --> 00:14:28,995 I should just quit and get a job at a sweatshop. 356 00:14:29,036 --> 00:14:31,664 - Maya, please, 357 00:14:31,706 --> 00:14:33,207 you could never keep up with those kids. 358 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,632 [tense music] 359 00:14:41,674 --> 00:14:44,010 - You're still here. - Yeah. 360 00:14:44,052 --> 00:14:46,262 So back to the lawsuit... 361 00:14:46,304 --> 00:14:47,722 [clears throat] [beeps] 362 00:14:47,764 --> 00:14:49,682 What exactly is the tribe's game plan here? 363 00:14:49,724 --> 00:14:52,143 - Well, Josh, I don't think it would be wise 364 00:14:52,185 --> 00:14:54,020 to just give you all the details, 365 00:14:54,062 --> 00:14:56,355 but I can tell you I'm optimistic. 366 00:14:56,397 --> 00:14:58,649 - Well, what are you optimistic about when-- 367 00:14:59,901 --> 00:15:01,611 - Hey, Terry. 368 00:15:01,652 --> 00:15:04,864 - Hello, again. - Nathan's here. 369 00:15:04,906 --> 00:15:07,450 - Nathan, I'm occupied here, 370 00:15:07,492 --> 00:15:09,202 but I think you know Josh. 371 00:15:09,243 --> 00:15:10,870 - Yes, of course. Great shoulders. 372 00:15:10,912 --> 00:15:13,081 I didn't realize you were still in your interview. 373 00:15:13,122 --> 00:15:14,207 I came to make things right. 374 00:15:14,248 --> 00:15:16,584 - Oh, well, that sounds promising. 375 00:15:16,626 --> 00:15:18,544 - I think we both agree that the founders' document 376 00:15:18,586 --> 00:15:20,380 stipulates the Rutherfords shall pay 377 00:15:20,421 --> 00:15:22,256 the Minishonka three bags of corn 378 00:15:22,298 --> 00:15:24,258 and a fur pelt every year, correct? 379 00:15:24,300 --> 00:15:26,052 - I'll give you that. - Bobbie! 380 00:15:26,094 --> 00:15:27,762 [door clicks open] 381 00:15:27,804 --> 00:15:32,558 * * 382 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:36,187 - I present to you full remuneration. 383 00:15:36,229 --> 00:15:38,064 Hundreds of bags of corn here, 384 00:15:38,106 --> 00:15:39,774 couple of pallets at your loading dock, 385 00:15:39,816 --> 00:15:42,068 and Bobbie will be getting even more furs 386 00:15:42,110 --> 00:15:44,278 from my aunt later this afternoon. 387 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:45,822 I think it's pretty clear the Rutherfords 388 00:15:45,863 --> 00:15:49,325 and the Minishonka are square. 389 00:15:49,367 --> 00:15:50,910 - Mission accomplished. 390 00:15:50,952 --> 00:15:52,036 - I appreciate the effort, 391 00:15:52,078 --> 00:15:54,372 but no, mission not accomplished. 392 00:15:54,414 --> 00:15:57,250 Corn and fur had significant value 393 00:15:57,291 --> 00:15:59,335 at the time the agreement was made. 394 00:15:59,377 --> 00:16:01,796 - Are you trying to tell me this is not a fair trade? 395 00:16:01,838 --> 00:16:03,798 - Some of this popcorn is flavored, 396 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,384 and these fur coats are to die for. 397 00:16:06,426 --> 00:16:09,262 - Since the agreement was made, the value of those goods 398 00:16:09,303 --> 00:16:11,764 with interest compounded over hundreds of years 399 00:16:11,806 --> 00:16:14,600 amounts to roughly $350 million, 400 00:16:14,642 --> 00:16:17,186 and we intend to be repaid every penny. 401 00:16:17,228 --> 00:16:19,480 Now, if you don't mind-- - That's insane. 402 00:16:19,522 --> 00:16:21,607 You're making a huge mistake, buddy. 403 00:16:21,649 --> 00:16:23,276 - How is that? - Well, you're forcing my hand. 404 00:16:23,317 --> 00:16:25,111 I'm gonna have to pull out the big guns. 405 00:16:25,153 --> 00:16:26,988 - Oprah. - No, not Oprah. 406 00:16:27,029 --> 00:16:29,198 I don't know her. 407 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,200 You're not just messing with me 408 00:16:31,242 --> 00:16:33,494 or even the whole Rutherford family. 409 00:16:33,536 --> 00:16:36,289 You're messing with the whole Rutherford concept. 410 00:16:36,330 --> 00:16:38,458 Okay, think of me as a little bear cub. 411 00:16:38,499 --> 00:16:40,293 Behind the tree is a mama bear. 412 00:16:40,334 --> 00:16:42,295 Don't poke that bear. Do you catch my drift? 413 00:16:42,336 --> 00:16:44,797 I'm talking about Rutherford Inc., Terry. 414 00:16:44,839 --> 00:16:47,008 Who has two thumbs and a seat on the corporate board? 415 00:16:47,050 --> 00:16:48,593 This guy. I make one phone call, 416 00:16:48,634 --> 00:16:50,928 a team of corporate lawyers comes up here 417 00:16:50,970 --> 00:16:53,056 and squashes you like a bug. 418 00:16:53,097 --> 00:16:54,849 - Thank you for the warning. 419 00:16:54,891 --> 00:16:56,684 I will prepare accordingly. 420 00:16:57,810 --> 00:17:00,146 - Prepare for the fight of your life. 421 00:17:00,188 --> 00:17:02,190 Come on, Bobbie. 422 00:17:04,734 --> 00:17:07,945 - [grunting] 423 00:17:07,987 --> 00:17:09,614 [sighs] 424 00:17:09,655 --> 00:17:12,909 Wonky wheel. I'll be back for it later. 425 00:17:20,541 --> 00:17:23,169 - Popcorn. Can you believe it? 426 00:17:23,211 --> 00:17:25,671 I mean, don't get me wrong, it's a great low-calorie snack, 427 00:17:25,713 --> 00:17:29,634 but it's bordering on offensive in this case. 428 00:17:29,675 --> 00:17:32,720 - Terry, you're a smart person. 429 00:17:32,762 --> 00:17:35,056 You have to know this isn't gonna work. 430 00:17:35,098 --> 00:17:37,600 Nathan may be in over his head, 431 00:17:37,642 --> 00:17:40,478 but I could cite at least 15 cases 432 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,605 where tribes sued for their treaties to be upheld 433 00:17:42,647 --> 00:17:44,524 and lost. 434 00:17:44,565 --> 00:17:45,983 I mean, what makes you think you can win 435 00:17:46,025 --> 00:17:48,236 when things are so stacked against the tribe? 436 00:17:48,277 --> 00:17:49,695 - Well, I actually want to go back 437 00:17:49,737 --> 00:17:52,865 to what you asked me earlier about capitalism. 438 00:17:52,907 --> 00:17:55,076 Your implication that being Indigenous 439 00:17:55,118 --> 00:17:58,788 and growing a profitable economy are mutually exclusive. 440 00:17:58,830 --> 00:18:00,331 - Oh, I-- 441 00:18:00,373 --> 00:18:03,251 I just meant that based on my research, 442 00:18:03,292 --> 00:18:05,294 the tenants of capitalism don't exactly jive 443 00:18:05,336 --> 00:18:07,422 with the traditional Minishonkan way of life. 444 00:18:07,463 --> 00:18:09,882 - America only champions one form for capitalism, 445 00:18:09,924 --> 00:18:11,676 major corporations, 446 00:18:11,718 --> 00:18:14,429 which I should point out pay no taxes while we do. 447 00:18:14,470 --> 00:18:16,222 They keep all the money for those at the top. 448 00:18:16,264 --> 00:18:18,474 Tribal capitalism distributes revenue, 449 00:18:18,516 --> 00:18:21,394 in this case casino revenue, to everyone in the tribe. 450 00:18:21,436 --> 00:18:24,522 - Sure, but isn't that what all capitalists say? 451 00:18:24,564 --> 00:18:26,816 That them making money benefits the masses? 452 00:18:26,858 --> 00:18:28,735 - Yes, but in our case, it's true. 453 00:18:28,776 --> 00:18:31,738 Long ago, when our men would go out on a hunt, 454 00:18:31,779 --> 00:18:34,240 the deer they'd bring back was divided 455 00:18:34,282 --> 00:18:35,658 equally amongst the tribe. 456 00:18:35,700 --> 00:18:37,660 Elders, women, and children first 457 00:18:37,702 --> 00:18:39,746 so that everyone would survive. 458 00:18:39,787 --> 00:18:42,039 We still get our share of the deer, 459 00:18:42,081 --> 00:18:43,458 but this time, it's a check. 460 00:18:43,499 --> 00:18:45,126 - But this isn't a deer, Terry. 461 00:18:45,168 --> 00:18:46,711 This is a huge 462 00:18:46,753 --> 00:18:49,088 multimillion-dollar corporation. 463 00:18:49,130 --> 00:18:52,842 Don't you feel like by chasing the almighty dollar, 464 00:18:52,884 --> 00:18:54,969 you're selling out your culture? 465 00:18:58,014 --> 00:18:59,682 - Your brownies sold out. 466 00:18:59,724 --> 00:19:01,601 - Great job. See you tomorrow. 467 00:19:03,770 --> 00:19:06,731 - Mr. Tomlinson, I think you made a mistake. 468 00:19:06,773 --> 00:19:09,484 You gave me $2. It should be $6. 469 00:19:09,525 --> 00:19:12,195 - Yeah, sure, but I have rent, 470 00:19:12,236 --> 00:19:14,072 insurance, ingredients. 471 00:19:14,113 --> 00:19:15,948 You don't have any overhead. 472 00:19:15,990 --> 00:19:18,493 In fact, I let you run your business on my property. 473 00:19:18,534 --> 00:19:22,038 Some could say, hmm, you owe me. 474 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,332 - Okay, well, I'll take five. 475 00:19:24,373 --> 00:19:26,375 - That's not how this works. 476 00:19:26,417 --> 00:19:29,879 I tell you what's fair, and this is fair. 477 00:19:29,921 --> 00:19:32,340 But hey, don't take it personally. 478 00:19:32,382 --> 00:19:34,509 Everything's a business. 479 00:19:34,550 --> 00:19:37,512 [solemn music] 480 00:19:37,553 --> 00:19:43,017 * * 481 00:19:43,059 --> 00:19:44,727 [beeps] 482 00:19:44,769 --> 00:19:46,771 - What I'm about to say is 483 00:19:46,813 --> 00:19:49,440 completely off the record, 484 00:19:49,482 --> 00:19:51,317 but I want you to hear it. 485 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:55,738 For someone who claims to give a voice to the voiceless, 486 00:19:55,780 --> 00:19:59,033 you have a real problem listening, 487 00:19:59,075 --> 00:20:00,785 and while I appreciate you seem to have read 488 00:20:00,827 --> 00:20:02,703 the entire Wikipedia entry 489 00:20:02,745 --> 00:20:04,664 for our tribe, you will never grasp 490 00:20:04,705 --> 00:20:06,624 a traditional Minishonka way of life 491 00:20:06,666 --> 00:20:08,501 because you come from a society 492 00:20:08,543 --> 00:20:12,338 that values the self over the whole. 493 00:20:12,380 --> 00:20:14,799 Doesn't matter how you dress it up. 494 00:20:14,841 --> 00:20:16,634 That's why you're choosing to focus 495 00:20:16,676 --> 00:20:19,721 on some purity test 496 00:20:19,762 --> 00:20:22,724 instead of what we're trying to actually achieve here. 497 00:20:24,976 --> 00:20:27,145 Have you ever heard of the seven generations? 498 00:20:27,186 --> 00:20:30,481 - I have an article about it somewhere. 499 00:20:30,523 --> 00:20:33,860 - It's a practice to ensure that the Earth and our language 500 00:20:33,901 --> 00:20:37,029 and our people will not only exist 501 00:20:37,071 --> 00:20:40,283 but thrive seven generations from now, 502 00:20:40,324 --> 00:20:42,535 that the decisions we make today will have an impact 503 00:20:42,577 --> 00:20:44,120 long after we're gone. 504 00:20:44,162 --> 00:20:45,580 Everything I do 505 00:20:45,621 --> 00:20:47,665 and every move I make 506 00:20:47,707 --> 00:20:50,668 is to ensure the success of my nation. 507 00:20:54,172 --> 00:20:56,632 [somber music] 508 00:20:56,674 --> 00:20:58,718 Growing up, I didn't get to learn 509 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:00,219 a lot of my traditional ways, 510 00:21:00,261 --> 00:21:03,639 but I did get to learn the great American pastime, 511 00:21:03,681 --> 00:21:05,892 which is power. 512 00:21:05,933 --> 00:21:09,187 Power, Josh, is a zero-sum game. 513 00:21:09,228 --> 00:21:12,065 If you have more of it, I have less, 514 00:21:12,106 --> 00:21:15,234 and then you can treat me however you want. 515 00:21:15,276 --> 00:21:19,113 If we want to ensure this tribe has a successful life, 516 00:21:19,155 --> 00:21:21,949 one that can maintain our traditions, 517 00:21:21,991 --> 00:21:24,243 art, and culture, 518 00:21:24,285 --> 00:21:26,162 well, that takes power, 519 00:21:26,204 --> 00:21:29,582 and unfortunately, power comes from money. 520 00:21:29,624 --> 00:21:31,584 The casino is a means to an end. 521 00:21:31,626 --> 00:21:34,003 It's the industry of this time. 522 00:21:34,045 --> 00:21:36,547 400 years ago, it was fur trading, 523 00:21:36,589 --> 00:21:38,633 50 years ago it was manufacturing, 524 00:21:38,674 --> 00:21:40,593 and long after I'm dead, there will be Minishonka 525 00:21:40,635 --> 00:21:44,764 figuring out how to master the next endeavor. 526 00:21:44,806 --> 00:21:46,933 Because that's what we do, Josh, 527 00:21:46,974 --> 00:21:49,310 those of us who fight this battle. 528 00:21:49,352 --> 00:21:51,062 We do whatever we have to. 529 00:21:53,064 --> 00:21:54,816 I've had to learn to play this game 530 00:21:54,857 --> 00:21:57,068 through bare-knuckle necessity, 531 00:21:57,110 --> 00:22:00,613 and while it might not make for a feel-good story, 532 00:22:00,655 --> 00:22:03,324 I won't rest until my nation gets 533 00:22:03,366 --> 00:22:05,118 every single thing 534 00:22:05,159 --> 00:22:07,620 that was taken from them. 535 00:22:13,501 --> 00:22:14,961 [beeps] 536 00:22:15,002 --> 00:22:17,839 Josh, it's been so wonderful talking to you. 537 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,883 Would it be possible to get a copy of this for my files? 538 00:22:20,925 --> 00:22:24,011 Please, reach out if you have any follow-up questions. 539 00:22:24,053 --> 00:22:26,097 Jess has a number of publicity shots. 540 00:22:26,139 --> 00:22:28,933 I'm partial to the one of me and Michelle Obama. 541 00:22:31,269 --> 00:22:34,564 It's late. Thank you very much for coming. 542 00:22:34,605 --> 00:22:35,898 I got a pretty exciting delivery 543 00:22:35,940 --> 00:22:37,608 from Nathan Rutherford today. 544 00:22:37,650 --> 00:22:39,235 - Do you mean the popcorn? 545 00:22:39,277 --> 00:22:41,028 [laughter] 546 00:22:41,070 --> 00:22:42,655 - I've been trying to find a way 547 00:22:42,697 --> 00:22:45,825 to legally tie Rutherford Inc. to our lawsuit. 548 00:22:45,867 --> 00:22:49,620 Earlier today, Nathan gave us a gift. 549 00:22:50,496 --> 00:22:53,166 - I'm talking about Rutherford Inc., Terry. 550 00:22:53,207 --> 00:22:55,251 Who has two thumbs and a seat on the corporate board? 551 00:22:55,293 --> 00:22:57,128 This guy. I make one phone call, 552 00:22:57,170 --> 00:22:59,380 a team of corporate lawyers comes up here 553 00:22:59,422 --> 00:23:01,799 and squashes you like a bug. 554 00:23:04,343 --> 00:23:06,512 - Now that we've found a way to connect them, 555 00:23:06,554 --> 00:23:08,264 we can go after the real money. 556 00:23:08,306 --> 00:23:10,767 With your permission, I'd like to add Rutherford Inc. 557 00:23:10,808 --> 00:23:12,602 to the lawsuit. 558 00:23:12,643 --> 00:23:14,729 I'll keep you updated as we proceed. 559 00:23:14,771 --> 00:23:16,522 [excited chatter] 560 00:23:16,564 --> 00:23:19,817 - Terrance, this is beautiful. 561 00:23:19,859 --> 00:23:21,694 - Maya made it. 562 00:23:21,736 --> 00:23:25,531 - Someone so young doing something this intricate? 563 00:23:25,573 --> 00:23:27,742 You're raising her right. 564 00:23:31,287 --> 00:23:34,165 - * If you think you're going to catch him now * 565 00:23:34,207 --> 00:23:37,668 * You're living in a world of crazy daydreams * 566 00:23:37,710 --> 00:23:43,925 * * 567 00:23:45,843 --> 00:23:48,638 - * Nothing * 568 00:23:48,679 --> 00:23:50,807 [laughter] 569 00:23:50,848 --> 00:23:53,267 - Take care. - Thank you. I'll see you. 570 00:23:55,269 --> 00:23:56,562 - How's Craig? 571 00:23:56,604 --> 00:23:57,897 - Still working on that boat. 572 00:23:57,939 --> 00:24:01,067 By the time he's done, the oceans will be empty. 573 00:24:01,109 --> 00:24:03,736 No offense, Terry, but I wouldn't take you for a beader. 574 00:24:03,778 --> 00:24:05,446 - They're a gift for Maya. 575 00:24:05,488 --> 00:24:07,407 - Well, we have some beautiful charlotte cuts 576 00:24:07,448 --> 00:24:10,243 coming in next week, size 15 like she's using. 577 00:24:10,284 --> 00:24:14,080 - I'll let her know. 578 00:24:14,122 --> 00:24:17,041 [scanner beeping] 579 00:24:18,876 --> 00:24:20,545 - I used to love that album. 580 00:24:20,586 --> 00:24:22,422 You guys were great. 581 00:24:22,463 --> 00:24:24,424 You want to buy it? 582 00:24:24,465 --> 00:24:27,885 - No. 583 00:24:27,927 --> 00:24:33,015 I've got everything I need. 584 00:24:33,057 --> 00:24:36,394 - * I've given everything I need * 585 00:24:36,436 --> 00:24:39,897 * I'd give you everything I own * 586 00:24:39,939 --> 00:24:41,190 * I'd give in if it could * 587 00:24:41,232 --> 00:24:46,696 * At least be ours alone * 588 00:24:46,738 --> 00:24:49,991 * I've given everything I could * 589 00:24:50,032 --> 00:24:53,494 * To blow it to hell and gone * 590 00:24:53,536 --> 00:24:54,954 * Burrow down in * 591 00:24:54,996 --> 00:24:58,541 * And blow up the outside * 592 00:24:58,583 --> 00:25:01,961 * And blow up the outside * 593 00:25:02,003 --> 00:25:07,258 * Blow up the outside world * 594 00:25:07,300 --> 00:25:10,678 [Soundgarden's "Blow Up the Outside World"] 595 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,890 * Blow up the outside * 596 00:25:13,931 --> 00:25:16,684 * Blow up the outside *