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<i>ANDY: Tonight on</i>

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<i>"The Real Housewives</i>
<i>of Salt Lake City" Reunion...</i>

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You seem to insinuate that
Meredith had a pill problem.

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-I mean, that's what I was told.
-That is a bitchy thing to say.

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[bleep] you.
Never talk to me again.

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I don't wanna participate
in the Mean Girl bullsh--.

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He--He was acting like
a lunatic. Security came.

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Don't talk about
my husband's character. Do not.

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Don't talk about
<i>my</i>husband's character.

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Your husband's character
the whole world knows about.

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You apparently have
zero people skills.

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I have very good people skills,
Angie.

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I haven't been the one trying to
get on the show for three years.

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I have never said that before.
Never!

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It's funny that
you'll believe someone

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going to prison for lying
over me.

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Hi, Jen. I have you on speaker
at the Reunion.

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***

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I woke up in my pajamas
and a horrible black eye.

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It was terrifying.

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It looked like
you were assaulted.

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Do you think Jen punched you
in the eye?

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<i>"The Real Housewives of Salt</i>
<i>Lake City" Reunion starts now.</i>

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<i>***</i>

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[siren wailing, horn blares]

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Hi! Thank you.

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Thank you.

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I love New York in the rain.

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Do you feel any nerves
or anything, Whitney?

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Not at all, because I feel like
all season I was so gaslit,

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and watching it back
helps me realize

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that I wasn't crazy,
and I held back a lot.

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-Mm-hmm.
-Listen, you gotta be

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on the right side of history.

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-ANDY: Ladies...
-HEATHER: Andy.

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-Oh, coming...
-Oh, wow. Hey, Grecian goddess.

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Hi.

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-How are we feeling about today?
-Feeling good.

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Do you think we can get
to any kind of a place

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that you couldn't get to
all season?

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I mean, I'm hoping.

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I think if you're
the Housewife Whisperer,

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let's see what happens
out there.

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-Oh, so it's on <i>me.</i>
-Yeah.

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Do you think we'll be sitting
by each other?

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Oh, my gosh. There's nobody else
I could sit by. [laughs]

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***

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How do you feel
about seeing Lisa?

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I feel like a lot of my side of
the story has never been told.

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I'm ready.

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***

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-Are you ready?
-Are <i>you</i>ready?

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Yeah, I think today's
gonna be weird.

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Yeah.

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***

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-She's wearing a dress.
-I think I know how

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the other trailer's
gonna show up.

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How do you think the other
trailer's gonna show up?

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Victim, martyr.

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All right.
I'll see you out there.

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-See what happens.
-What do <i>you</i>think?

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-Um, I'll tell you later.
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***

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All right, here we go.

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And we're gonna send it to Andy
in five, four, three,

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two...

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Hey, everybody, welcome to

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"The Real Housewives
of Salt Lake City"

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Season 3 Reunion.

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I'm Andy Cohen,
and in true Salt Lake fashion,

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what would an arrival be
without a Sprinter van?

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[horn honks]

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Oh, ladies.

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[laughs]

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Come on out. Well,
we've never done this before,

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but it seemed fitting.

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What happened
in that Sprinter van

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is what I wanna know.
-Hello.

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-Hi.
-I think all of us

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are in consensus that we don't
need to spend more time

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in Sprinter vans.

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I'm shutting the [bleep] down
right now!

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Then talk to your friend
like that!

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No, no, get out of
my ----ing face!

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What if she's on the run?

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I'm shaking.
I'm physically shaking.

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I'm a ----ing respected woman.

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-So am I!
-Are ya?

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-Yes, I am.
-How come you can't keep

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a -----ing friendship?

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Well, I am here with the ladies
of Salt Lake City.

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-Hey, Meredith.
-Hi.

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-Great to see you.
-Great to see you, too.

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Did you share a nice bubble bath
with Seth before arriving?

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Seth was still in bed
when I left this morning.

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He was. Well, he'll be here
soon enough.

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Hey, Heather, you look
fully recovered.

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Yes.

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How long did it take
your eye to recover?

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You know,
it took about 10 days,

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but I could cover it
with makeup.

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-Hi, Whitney "Wild" Rose.
-Hi, Andy.

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-How are you?
-Doing so well.

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-Good.
-Hi, Lisa.

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-Hey, Andy.
-How are you?

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Good.

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Spray tan even tonight?

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-Spray tan is even.
-Very good.

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Well, we are here
in New York City

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in what appears to be
a dilapidated church...

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[bell tolls]

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...which is quite the metaphor
for the season.

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-What do you think, ladies?
-LISA: Totally appropriate.

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I think it's breathtaking.
Like, it feels

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exactly representative of what
we've kind of gone through

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the last three years.

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There are only four of you
on the couches today.

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We invited Jen to be here today,

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but unfortunately,
her legal team advised her

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not to come today,
as her sentencing

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has yet to occur.

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What are your reactions
about her not being here,

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first of all?

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I have mixed emotions.
Like, I think in a lot of ways

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I think it would be great
to have Jen here

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just so we could talk
through things and, you know,

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basically get some closure.

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-You know, I think she was...
-Right.

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...a big part of the season,
and so I feel like

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it'll be a big--a big void.

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She changed her plea
from not guilty to guilty,

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and your reaction was what
to that, Whitney?

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I was surprised because all
season since she was indicted,

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she claimed her innocence

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and screamed it
from the rooftops,

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so I honestly thought she'd go
fight the trial to the end.

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What about you, Lisa?

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I had mixed emotions.
Jen did what she needed to do,

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and she did the right thing.

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If she's guilty, she took
responsibility for her actions.

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-Meredith?
-I was shocked.

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You know,
I was very, very surprised,

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and, um, it's just not
what I was expecting.

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And then you got the word
that she's pled guilty.

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Did she tell you in advance
that she was pleading guilty?

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Yeah, she did.
She called me right before

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she walked into the courtroom.

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And what did you say?

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I just felt sadness and grief,
and I just, you know,

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cried with her and
said, you know.... "Good luck."

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Did you feel lied to?

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I wasn't really feeling anything
other than sadness

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for her family,
and I thought of her children,

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and I thought of my friend
that was doing something

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that I didn't think
she wanted to do.

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All right,
I wanna leave that there,

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and we're gonna come back
to this later, okay?

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All right. No one ever expected
long-time friends

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Meredith and Lisa to have
an issue they couldn't resolve.

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But a rant and a retaliation

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seemed to have shaken
this friendship

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like a Vida cocktail.

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So clearly your relationship
never seemed to recover

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after Lisa's hot mic moment.

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Are the two of you
on speaking terms now?

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-Hi, Meredith.
-Hi!

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-I wished you a happy birthday.
-Thank you.

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-Happy birthday to you, too.
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Thank you.

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You wished her
a happy birthday?

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-With you.
-Happy birthday, Lisa Barlow,

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by the way.
-Yeah, happy birthday, Lisa.

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[laughter]

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-I didn't see it.
-Well, I mean,

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on "Watch What Happens Live."

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I mean, did you...wish her
a happy birthday personally?

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-No.
-No.

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Hypothetically, if she had
contacted you

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after the Reunion off camera
and said,

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"I wanna sit down with you
and hash this out"

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and apologize to you,

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would you have taken
the meeting?

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-Yes.
-You would have.

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-I didn't feel like that.
-Can you forgive her?

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My issues with Lisa today
have nothing to do

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with her childish tantrum.
-Well, I haven't done anything.

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I--How many times do I have
to say the same thing?

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If your animus towards her
doesn't have anything to do

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with the hot mic moment,
what does it have to do with?

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Um...after Arizona,
we were in a neutral space,

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an hopefully positive movement
forward.

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Shortly thereafter,
I come to find that

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Lisa had removed me as
a follower on her Instagram

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and was hiding her Stories
from me.

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And then what really set me
completely over the edge

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was when we aired Reunion
last year,

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I explained that I was very hurt
by Lisa

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that I didn't hear from her
when my father passed away,

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and Lisa went to Twitter

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and posted a lot
of text messages

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that actually occurred
a month later

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to make it look like
I was lying when I had--

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-That is not true.
-Oh, excuse me.

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...when I had already been
traumatized enough

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about my father's death...

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-Okay.
-...where she had already

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created confusion over dates...
-Oh.

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And that to me was just like,
really?

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We're gonna go here again
with something that was so raw

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and so painful to me, I couldn't
understand the rationale,

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and I thought, this is not
someone who wants

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to move forward with me
in a positive direction.

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Noah from Boise said, "Meredith,
you started talking crap

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about Lisa from the get-go.

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Was your plan to get back at her
for her hot mic rant?"

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The context of all
of those conversations

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was completely cut out.

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-Here's the thing.
-The context with which

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you spoke was that you were
worried about her.

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That is correct.
I was concerned.

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I didn't think that the behavior
that I saw was

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normal, regular behavior,
and so I was concerned.

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In all honesty,
if I could have come

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to some level
of understanding...

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Did you reach out to her
to see if she was okay?

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No.

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I probably should have.
And at the end of the day,

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regardless of my intentions,

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Lisa, I'm sorry that I said
that there were rumors out there

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about you,
and I did not believe them.

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I apologize for saying
any of that.

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Thank you.

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Joel from St. Louis said,
"I'm confused.

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Are there dueling rumors
about Lisa going around?"

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-Apparently.
-"The first one being

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Lisa giving blowies
for Jazz tickets..."

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-[laughs]
-"...and the second being

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Lisa trading sexual favors
for Vida sales."

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Oh, no, there's, like,
three or four from this group.

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-Yes.
-I would love to clarify this.

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Can I have a glass of water,
please? I'm dying.

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Sorry, I didn't mean
to interrupt.

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-May I also as well, please?
-You would like to clarify?

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00:09:38,953 --> 00:09:40,872
Uh, yeah, first of all,

246
00:09:40,914 --> 00:09:42,374
I never said Meredith started
the rumors.

247
00:09:42,415 --> 00:09:44,209
I said she's the one that
started talking about it.

248
00:09:44,250 --> 00:09:46,044
-Okay.
-However...

249
00:09:46,086 --> 00:09:47,671
when Meredith came to my house,
she said,

250
00:09:47,712 --> 00:09:51,257
"There was rumors about Lisa
that she performs favors

251
00:09:51,299 --> 00:09:54,177
for the placement of Vida.
Isn't that absurd?"

252
00:09:54,219 --> 00:09:58,181
And I said, "No," and I said,
"Well, I had heard...."

253
00:09:58,223 --> 00:10:01,893
I never said "blow jobs
for courtside seats."

254
00:10:01,935 --> 00:10:03,395
Never said that.

255
00:10:03,436 --> 00:10:07,732
I said, "Those rumors, like,
are about this man

256
00:10:07,774 --> 00:10:09,818
because I heard them
from Angie Harrington."

257
00:10:09,859 --> 00:10:13,113
We get to Arizona.
Heather spun my words

258
00:10:13,154 --> 00:10:14,948
and said "blow jobs
for courtside tickets."

259
00:10:14,989 --> 00:10:16,950
If that happened when you came
and told me all this in Arizona,

260
00:10:16,991 --> 00:10:18,410
why didn't you say, "Remember?

261
00:10:18,451 --> 00:10:19,828
This is the joke
that Angie made"?

262
00:10:19,869 --> 00:10:21,287
-I did over and over.
-It wasn't a joke.

263
00:10:21,329 --> 00:10:23,915
-She told other people it, too.
-Over and over and over.

264
00:10:23,957 --> 00:10:25,709
-I think she did say that.
-She did not.

265
00:10:25,750 --> 00:10:31,798
You sat in the front two seats
on New Year's Eve with Angie.

266
00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,718
Angie told us
that John Barlow...

267
00:10:34,759 --> 00:10:36,428
-Babe, that was--we--
-...and Lisa have those tickets

268
00:10:36,469 --> 00:10:40,432
because Lisa sleeps
with [bleep].

269
00:10:40,473 --> 00:10:42,726
That's how I heard it,
and you were there.

270
00:10:42,767 --> 00:10:45,812
-I did not hear it.
-You were there.

271
00:10:45,854 --> 00:10:47,772
The bottom line is, Andy,
I'm so grateful.

272
00:10:47,814 --> 00:10:49,315
No matter how much hate
Whitney got for it...

273
00:10:49,357 --> 00:10:50,817
-I don't wanna be a Mean Girl.
-...I'm so glad she came in

274
00:10:50,859 --> 00:10:52,986
and stopped it,
because if Whitney

275
00:10:53,028 --> 00:10:54,779
didn't come in that night...
-Stopped it? She started it.

276
00:10:54,821 --> 00:10:56,197
-No, no, she--
-I did not. Meredith started it.

277
00:10:56,239 --> 00:10:57,824
She didn't start it.
I don't think--

278
00:10:57,866 --> 00:10:59,743
Meredith started it
episode one, scene one.

279
00:10:59,784 --> 00:11:02,495
I believe Whitney would have
never said anything

280
00:11:02,537 --> 00:11:05,206
if other people in this group
were not going to Whitney

281
00:11:05,248 --> 00:11:06,207
and talking about it. I think
it would have been off-limits.

282
00:11:07,334 --> 00:11:09,085
Well, actually,
I never said a word...

283
00:11:09,127 --> 00:11:10,503
She came to me and told me
in Arizona.

284
00:11:10,545 --> 00:11:13,173
...before Whitney
disclosed a lot of stuff to me.

285
00:11:13,214 --> 00:11:18,011
***

286
00:11:18,053 --> 00:11:19,804
<i>Coming up...</i>

287
00:11:19,846 --> 00:11:22,932
Is there a part of you that
thought, "If Jen did this,

288
00:11:22,974 --> 00:11:27,771
I want to cover it up so she
isn't penalized by a judge

289
00:11:27,812 --> 00:11:29,356
or in her case?"

290
00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,242
***

291
00:11:42,369 --> 00:11:44,079
Whitney would have never said
anything

292
00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,289
if other people in this group
were not going to Whitney

293
00:11:46,331 --> 00:11:47,624
and talking about it. I think
it would have been off-limits.

294
00:11:47,665 --> 00:11:49,292
Well, actually,
I never said a word...

295
00:11:49,334 --> 00:11:51,503
She came to me and told me
in Arizona.

296
00:11:51,544 --> 00:11:54,923
...before Whitney disclosed
a lot of stuff to me.

297
00:11:54,964 --> 00:11:56,966
***

298
00:11:57,008 --> 00:11:57,842
You did, and you were with Jen.
You said a lot to Jen.

299
00:11:58,802 --> 00:11:59,469
You're the one
who prompted Jen.

300
00:11:59,511 --> 00:12:00,970
You brought up rumors.

301
00:12:01,012 --> 00:12:02,931
I mean, there are--
there are affair rumors.

302
00:12:02,972 --> 00:12:05,266
I'm not getting into any of it,
but there are rumors.

303
00:12:05,308 --> 00:12:06,601
I don't know if they're
true or false.

304
00:12:06,643 --> 00:12:08,311
I just heard that she was,
you know, doing favors

305
00:12:08,353 --> 00:12:12,023
to help get places
to pick up Vida Tequila.

306
00:12:12,065 --> 00:12:13,608
I have no idea if it's true
or false.

307
00:12:13,650 --> 00:12:15,276
It sounds absurd to me.

308
00:12:15,318 --> 00:12:17,070
-I'm talking about before that.
-And you said it to Seth,

309
00:12:17,112 --> 00:12:18,530
and it's all on camera.
-Okay, um, well...

310
00:12:18,571 --> 00:12:20,365
-So the world heard it.
-While you were roller skating

311
00:12:20,407 --> 00:12:22,992
in San Diego...
-Mm-hmm.

312
00:12:23,034 --> 00:12:26,121
...you seemed to insinuate that
Meredith had a pill problem.

313
00:12:26,162 --> 00:12:29,040
No, I don't pop pills, bitch...

314
00:12:29,082 --> 00:12:31,251
It wasn't about that.

315
00:12:31,292 --> 00:12:33,503
Jen had said that when
we were at Zion's,

316
00:12:33,545 --> 00:12:36,089
Meredith was on something
with Heather.

317
00:12:36,131 --> 00:12:38,174
-Okay, so--
-The night that I locked myself

318
00:12:38,216 --> 00:12:39,926
in my room? That was Whitney.
Whitney--

319
00:12:39,968 --> 00:12:41,052
Yeah, but you gave her
something.

320
00:12:41,094 --> 00:12:42,637
You said she--You said she--
Hold on.

321
00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:43,930
-You said she popped pills.
-That is not true.

322
00:12:44,889 --> 00:12:46,516
-You said she popped pills.
-Jen had told me

323
00:12:46,558 --> 00:12:48,268
that they popped some pills
before, uh...

324
00:12:48,309 --> 00:12:49,310
-That Jen and I did?
-I was locked in my room.

325
00:12:50,437 --> 00:12:50,562
Yeah, she told me
that you two were both--

326
00:12:51,813 --> 00:12:52,230
Whitney built the rock tower.
Can you clarify?

327
00:12:53,481 --> 00:12:53,898
I didn't build a rock tower
in the hot tub.

328
00:12:55,442 --> 00:12:55,483
She told me that you two were
both Ketamine or something,

329
00:12:56,568 --> 00:12:57,235
and that's why I said it,
and it was--

330
00:12:58,486 --> 00:12:59,487
maybe it's a bitchy thing
to say, but I mean,

331
00:12:59,529 --> 00:13:01,197
that's what I was told.

332
00:13:01,239 --> 00:13:02,323
That is a bitchy thing to say,
Lisa. Not maybe. It is.

333
00:13:03,575 --> 00:13:03,616
Yeah, well, we all say a lot
of bitchy things.

334
00:13:04,534 --> 00:13:04,617
-Yes.
-I'm not the only one.

335
00:13:05,744 --> 00:13:07,454
-No, you're not.
-So we can move on now.

336
00:13:07,495 --> 00:13:09,539
Calling someone a pill popper
is kind of--goes beyond

337
00:13:09,581 --> 00:13:11,332
being a bitchy thing.
-Okay.

338
00:13:11,374 --> 00:13:12,584
I mean, it's actually
an accusation. I mean...

339
00:13:12,625 --> 00:13:14,044
Yeah, it's pretty vile.
It's called slander.

340
00:13:14,085 --> 00:13:15,545
Well, so there's a lot of
accusations flying

341
00:13:15,587 --> 00:13:17,255
all over here.
-Yes. Yes.

342
00:13:17,297 --> 00:13:18,381
So it's like, is mine worse
than any of the other ones?

343
00:13:19,632 --> 00:13:20,925
And if you have a problem,
call Jen right now

344
00:13:22,594 --> 00:13:22,635
and tell her, "Hey, why did you
say that?" 'Cause she sure did.

345
00:13:23,845 --> 00:13:25,722
-No problem. Let's do it.
-She for sure did.

346
00:13:25,764 --> 00:13:28,183
-Let's do it.
-You heard it.

347
00:13:28,224 --> 00:13:29,476
You know, Whitney. Whitney's--

348
00:13:29,517 --> 00:13:30,685
she's talked to Whitney
about it.

349
00:13:32,020 --> 00:13:32,937
-Yes, she said it to me as well.
-Yeah, and a bunch

350
00:13:33,730 --> 00:13:34,397
of other people.
-[line ringing]

351
00:13:35,815 --> 00:13:35,857
You should see what she's been
sending out about you.

352
00:13:36,733 --> 00:13:36,775
I have that on my phone, too.

353
00:13:37,984 --> 00:13:39,194
I know who I am.
I know what my character is.

354
00:13:39,235 --> 00:13:40,695
I'm not--I'm not going to jail.

355
00:13:40,737 --> 00:13:45,075
Hi, Jen. I have you on speaker
at the Reunion.

356
00:13:45,116 --> 00:13:49,204
Because we have a little bit
of conflict here.

357
00:13:49,245 --> 00:13:52,082
Jen, tell her how you told us
that they took shrooms

358
00:13:52,123 --> 00:13:53,249
before they build a rock tower
in the hot tub.

359
00:13:53,291 --> 00:13:55,085
-Oh, now it's shrooms?
-Shrooms is--

360
00:13:55,126 --> 00:13:56,753
Ketamine and shrooms,
'cause I didn't know

361
00:13:56,795 --> 00:13:58,588
what Ketamine was.
I had to Google it.

362
00:13:58,630 --> 00:14:00,006
-She said that you--
-Hold on.

363
00:14:00,048 --> 00:14:03,385
-Yes. Yes.
-Special K.

364
00:14:03,426 --> 00:14:05,595
-She knows what Special K is.
-Everyone does.

365
00:14:05,637 --> 00:14:08,598
The question was, Jen, whether
you were going around saying

366
00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:10,225
Meredith is a pill popper
behind her back.

367
00:14:10,266 --> 00:14:13,603
She wasn't going around
saying it. She said it to me.

368
00:14:13,645 --> 00:14:15,146
No, it is. Well, you don't tell
the truth all the time,

369
00:14:16,314 --> 00:14:17,440
so I wouldn't expect you to now.
-I don't believe anything

370
00:14:18,983 --> 00:14:20,068
that comes out of her mouth.
-Yeah, do you even believe this?

371
00:14:21,361 --> 00:14:23,029
You believe this over me.
I'm not going to jail.

372
00:14:23,071 --> 00:14:24,155
Okay. Oh.

373
00:14:24,197 --> 00:14:26,616
Why? It's the truth.

374
00:14:26,658 --> 00:14:30,453
Why do we have to act like
it's not the truth?

375
00:14:30,495 --> 00:14:33,039
That's inaccurate. All right.
Thank you.

376
00:14:33,081 --> 00:14:34,124
-MEREDITH: Thank you.
-It's not inaccurate.

377
00:14:34,165 --> 00:14:35,667
-She said it.
-I had heard

378
00:14:35,709 --> 00:14:38,336
through the grapevine
long before I saw the episode

379
00:14:38,378 --> 00:14:40,380
where Lisa called me
a pill popper

380
00:14:40,422 --> 00:14:42,799
that she was saying
that around town.

381
00:14:42,841 --> 00:14:44,634
Who? Who? Name names.
Name names. You can't.

382
00:14:44,676 --> 00:14:46,219
They're not people on this cast.

383
00:14:46,261 --> 00:14:47,595
Because there aren't any names
because I never said it.

384
00:14:47,637 --> 00:14:50,807
I have never said that before.
Never!

385
00:14:50,849 --> 00:14:52,475
Well, that's not what
I was told.

386
00:14:52,517 --> 00:14:54,310
Your buddy there did. And it's
funny that you'll believe...

387
00:14:54,352 --> 00:14:55,603
-And not by her.
-...someone going to prison

388
00:14:55,645 --> 00:14:57,397
for lying over me.
-I wasn't told that by Jen.

389
00:14:57,439 --> 00:14:59,441
Whatever. I can't even
handle this. We're done.

390
00:14:59,482 --> 00:15:00,817
-I am not wrong.
-Of course you can't handle it.

391
00:15:00,859 --> 00:15:02,277
I am not wrong. Don't--
and you can sit there...

392
00:15:02,318 --> 00:15:04,112
'Cause you're right
all the time.

393
00:15:04,154 --> 00:15:05,530
-...and be like, "Yeah, oh, no."
-Mm-hmm.

394
00:15:05,572 --> 00:15:06,656
I'm not right all the time.
I admit when I'm wrong.

395
00:15:07,907 --> 00:15:08,241
You can apologize one time,
and everybody has

396
00:15:09,451 --> 00:15:10,827
to move forward.
-I've apologized a multitude

397
00:15:10,869 --> 00:15:11,870
of times to you, Lisa...
-Everybody else has to beg you

398
00:15:11,911 --> 00:15:13,329
for forgiveness.
-...over the rumors.

399
00:15:13,371 --> 00:15:14,456
-Whatever, Meredith.
-I think we're on

400
00:15:14,497 --> 00:15:15,707
six or seven now?
-You're making up stuff.

401
00:15:17,125 --> 00:15:18,543
-You're making up stuff.
-Meredith, behind Lisa's back,

402
00:15:19,753 --> 00:15:21,421
you kept saying that you would
hate to have an SEC filing

403
00:15:21,463 --> 00:15:23,340
at this stage in your life.

404
00:15:23,381 --> 00:15:24,674
No, that's not what I said.

405
00:15:24,716 --> 00:15:28,845
I can't imagine
wanting to crowdfund

406
00:15:28,887 --> 00:15:33,516
for any reason at this stage
of my life...

407
00:15:33,558 --> 00:15:36,186
That's just not something
I would want to do.

408
00:15:36,227 --> 00:15:37,354
If that was
what was right for them,

409
00:15:37,395 --> 00:15:38,396
that was what was right
for them.

410
00:15:39,522 --> 00:15:41,316
It's just not--I wouldn't
wanna have to do

411
00:15:41,358 --> 00:15:43,526
all the SEC compliance
that comes with that.

412
00:15:43,568 --> 00:15:45,362
-We have a lot of lawyers.
-That's my personal opinion,

413
00:15:45,403 --> 00:15:47,822
which I'm entitled to.
-Well, we have a lot of lawyers.

414
00:15:47,864 --> 00:15:50,492
The point isn't the SEC filing.
It's the point that

415
00:15:50,533 --> 00:15:52,702
the way that Meredith brought it
up and talked about it--

416
00:15:52,744 --> 00:15:54,579
It was a denigrating way
and alluded to--

417
00:15:54,621 --> 00:15:56,206
It was to make Lisa look bad.

418
00:15:56,247 --> 00:15:57,624
So after everything
that's gone down this season,

419
00:15:57,665 --> 00:16:01,127
do either one of you
wanna pursue

420
00:16:01,169 --> 00:16:03,254
or continue the friendship?

421
00:16:04,255 --> 00:16:07,175
I think we have both made
very big mistakes,

422
00:16:07,217 --> 00:16:10,887
and I think
it's really, really sad. I do.

423
00:16:10,929 --> 00:16:12,514
-It's heartbreaking to me.
-LISA: Mm-hmm.

424
00:16:12,555 --> 00:16:16,476
I don't know exactly where we
can go at this point, you know?

425
00:16:16,518 --> 00:16:19,813
I think that at a minimum, it
would be nice to be respectful

426
00:16:19,854 --> 00:16:22,524
out of the respect for that
friendship we did once have,

427
00:16:22,565 --> 00:16:24,734
even if there isn't a future
towards one,

428
00:16:24,776 --> 00:16:27,696
to treat each other
with respect, with kindness,

429
00:16:27,737 --> 00:16:33,243
and, you know, be cordial
and see where it goes.

430
00:16:33,284 --> 00:16:35,578
And that's--that's the best
I can do right now.

431
00:16:35,620 --> 00:16:37,706
You know, I've been friends
with Meredith for a long time,

432
00:16:37,747 --> 00:16:40,375
I felt like very protective
of Meredith, and...

433
00:16:42,293 --> 00:16:46,381
[voice breaking] I felt
devastated last year,

434
00:16:46,423 --> 00:16:49,509
prior to the hot mic moment.

435
00:16:49,551 --> 00:16:51,302
I was devastated
because I was like,

436
00:16:51,344 --> 00:16:52,804
we aren't friends even then.

437
00:16:52,846 --> 00:16:58,184
But I have been very, very sad,
and I never thought

438
00:16:58,226 --> 00:17:00,812
it would get to this point
where it was so ugly,

439
00:17:00,854 --> 00:17:03,273
and I think the thing
that hurt me most

440
00:17:03,314 --> 00:17:06,735
is when you brought John
into it,

441
00:17:06,776 --> 00:17:09,571
and it's like I had already been
through enough.

442
00:17:09,612 --> 00:17:11,489
Why do we wanna, like,
put me through more?

443
00:17:11,531 --> 00:17:15,660
Like, there's way worse things
happening around us,

444
00:17:15,702 --> 00:17:18,329
and it's like fixating on me.

445
00:17:18,371 --> 00:17:20,498
Well, I really hope that there's
a positive path forward

446
00:17:20,540 --> 00:17:21,875
for the two of you.

447
00:17:21,916 --> 00:17:24,294
***

448
00:17:24,336 --> 00:17:25,628
We're gonna leave it there,
and we're gonna take a break.

449
00:17:25,670 --> 00:17:27,339
We'll be right back.

450
00:17:27,380 --> 00:17:31,343
***

451
00:17:31,384 --> 00:17:32,802
<i>Coming up...</i>

452
00:17:32,844 --> 00:17:37,265
Don't say we're bullies,
'cause you do it to all of us.

453
00:17:37,307 --> 00:17:38,767
-I do not.
-Yes, you do.

454
00:17:38,808 --> 00:17:39,976
You're trying to take away
from the fact

455
00:17:40,018 --> 00:17:41,519
that your husband trolled me.

456
00:17:51,488 --> 00:17:52,614
Is there a heater in here?

457
00:17:52,989 --> 00:17:54,074
Yes.

458
00:17:54,115 --> 00:17:56,409
-Are you cold?
-Yeah.

459
00:17:56,451 --> 00:17:58,953
I'll be fine. I'm sure
it's gonna heat up soon.

460
00:18:03,375 --> 00:18:04,751
We're back with

461
00:18:04,793 --> 00:18:07,754
"The Real Housewives
of Salt Lake City" Reunion.

462
00:18:07,796 --> 00:18:10,757
Lisa, your singing actually
went viral when it aired.

463
00:18:10,799 --> 00:18:13,760
* Away in a manger *

464
00:18:13,802 --> 00:18:17,347
* No crib for his bed *

465
00:18:17,389 --> 00:18:20,433
"Would you ever consider
releasing a holiday album?"

466
00:18:20,475 --> 00:18:21,768
Actually, I would.

467
00:18:21,810 --> 00:18:23,103
-Really?
-Yeah.

468
00:18:23,144 --> 00:18:24,354
And maybe I'm already
working on it.

469
00:18:24,396 --> 00:18:25,855
Wow, didn't see this one coming.

470
00:18:25,897 --> 00:18:27,023
Maybe not an album.
Maybe it's like three songs.

471
00:18:27,065 --> 00:18:28,692
-An EP.
-Yeah.

472
00:18:28,733 --> 00:18:30,068
-Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
-That's kind of more in keeping

473
00:18:30,110 --> 00:18:33,113
with the Housewives oeuvre.
-My wheelhouse?

474
00:18:33,154 --> 00:18:35,782
-Yes.
-[laughter]

475
00:18:35,824 --> 00:18:39,035
From drinks on the hair
to shoes in the water,

476
00:18:39,077 --> 00:18:41,663
two old friendships
came to an end,

477
00:18:41,705 --> 00:18:45,125
and one dropped anchor
before it even set sail.

478
00:18:45,166 --> 00:18:46,918
Take a look.

479
00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:48,712
I knew we would love each other.
We worked together, and, like,

480
00:18:48,753 --> 00:18:50,797
we immediately bonded
over fashion.

481
00:18:50,839 --> 00:18:53,508
I've known Angie
for over 20 years.

482
00:18:53,550 --> 00:18:56,511
Angie told us that
John Barlow and Lisa...

483
00:18:56,553 --> 00:18:59,014
-Babe, that was weeks--
-...have those tickets

484
00:18:59,055 --> 00:19:01,766
because Lisa sleeps
with [bleep].

485
00:19:01,808 --> 00:19:03,977
That's how I heard it.

486
00:19:04,019 --> 00:19:05,520
Chris Harrington

487
00:19:05,562 --> 00:19:09,149
started an Instagram page
called @shahxposed.

488
00:19:09,190 --> 00:19:10,525
Can you really say
you had no idea...

489
00:19:10,567 --> 00:19:11,985
-Oh, my gosh.
-...your husband did this?

490
00:19:12,027 --> 00:19:13,695
-None.
-So embarrassing.

491
00:19:13,737 --> 00:19:15,071
Angie, you're full of sh--.
You know what your husband does.

492
00:19:16,656 --> 00:19:19,743
I have got a friend with a house
in San Diego. Go to the beach.

493
00:19:19,784 --> 00:19:22,495
To Angie's hookup
in San Diego.

494
00:19:22,537 --> 00:19:23,913
I thought this was Jen's trip.

495
00:19:23,955 --> 00:19:26,916
This is mine.

496
00:19:26,958 --> 00:19:29,502
I'm sorry. Who--Are you
in charge? Who's in charge?

497
00:19:29,544 --> 00:19:31,129
-Let's do this.
-[gasps]

498
00:19:31,171 --> 00:19:32,589
-Oh!
-Are you serious, Jen?

499
00:19:32,630 --> 00:19:33,840
-Yeah, I'm serious.
-That's not even funny.

500
00:19:33,882 --> 00:19:36,509
It is funny.
This is the fun trip.

501
00:19:36,551 --> 00:19:38,470
Women like Danna inspire me,

502
00:19:38,511 --> 00:19:40,638
because she has
a very good heart,

503
00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,724
but she also still keeps
her edge.

504
00:19:42,766 --> 00:19:44,726
Honestly, I feel like she was
almost bullying.

505
00:19:44,768 --> 00:19:46,311
Like, I feel like no one
stands up to her,

506
00:19:46,353 --> 00:19:49,105
and no one puts her ass in check
when she's stepping out of line.

507
00:19:49,147 --> 00:19:53,526
Danna Banana, who looks like
you are no fun-fanana.

508
00:19:53,568 --> 00:19:55,528
I wanna be as real as I can
with you, Jen.

509
00:19:55,570 --> 00:19:58,823
Someone that I know shared
something with me,

510
00:19:58,865 --> 00:19:59,949
and I just wanna be real
with you.

511
00:19:59,991 --> 00:20:00,909
-Who?
-They know someone

512
00:20:00,950 --> 00:20:02,535
that worked for you.
-Who?

513
00:20:02,577 --> 00:20:05,914
And they pleaded guilty
to whatever the allegations are,

514
00:20:05,955 --> 00:20:07,791
and now they're an informant.

515
00:20:07,832 --> 00:20:08,875
***

516
00:20:08,917 --> 00:20:11,711
And the friends are joining us.

517
00:20:11,753 --> 00:20:15,215
Welcome, Angie H., Angie K.,
and Danna,

518
00:20:15,256 --> 00:20:17,801
welcome to the season 3 Reunion.
Good evening.

519
00:20:17,842 --> 00:20:18,760
-Thank you.
-Good evening.

520
00:20:18,802 --> 00:20:21,012
-Thank you.
-Thank you.

521
00:20:21,054 --> 00:20:23,223
Destiny from Austin said,
"Danna, you started talking

522
00:20:23,264 --> 00:20:25,642
badly about Jen
from the get-go."

523
00:20:25,684 --> 00:20:27,977
Did you ever really intend
to get along with her

524
00:20:28,019 --> 00:20:29,562
or try to get along with her?

525
00:20:29,604 --> 00:20:30,772
Yes, if you see, like,
the first time I met her

526
00:20:30,814 --> 00:20:32,982
during, like, the ski day.

527
00:20:33,024 --> 00:20:36,111
-Hi!
-This is Danna from Beauty Lab

528
00:20:36,152 --> 00:20:37,487
I was telling you about.
-Nice meeting you.

529
00:20:37,529 --> 00:20:38,863
-Hi!
-Nice meeting you.

530
00:20:38,905 --> 00:20:40,240
-You look so cute.
-No, so are you.

531
00:20:40,281 --> 00:20:42,701
She was great.
She's a good time,

532
00:20:42,742 --> 00:20:46,746
and I felt like she had, like,
a good, like, aura around her

533
00:20:46,788 --> 00:20:48,540
in the beginning
when I first met her.

534
00:20:48,581 --> 00:20:51,167
But after I saw
what she did to...

535
00:20:51,209 --> 00:20:53,503
[sighs] I saw the way that she
treated you,

536
00:20:53,545 --> 00:20:56,047
and that's what triggered me
a little bit

537
00:20:56,089 --> 00:20:57,841
at the--the choir audition.

538
00:20:57,882 --> 00:20:59,134
I didn't like the way
that she approached you.

539
00:20:59,175 --> 00:21:00,510
And I appreciate you
befriending me.

540
00:21:00,552 --> 00:21:01,928
And then I didn't, like--

541
00:21:01,970 --> 00:21:03,263
I know that was a hard position.

542
00:21:03,304 --> 00:21:04,723
-Yeah. It was really hard.
-I appreciate that.

543
00:21:05,890 --> 00:21:06,182
Danna, why did you tell Jen
that you were friends

544
00:21:07,100 --> 00:21:08,893
with an informant
in her case?

545
00:21:08,935 --> 00:21:11,771
What was the purpose of that,
or what was that supposed to...

546
00:21:11,813 --> 00:21:13,732
Well, I was hoping that
maybe she could be like,

547
00:21:13,773 --> 00:21:16,860
I don't know, maybe own up to it
early on,

548
00:21:16,901 --> 00:21:19,612
talk about it, address it,
take accountability for it.

549
00:21:19,654 --> 00:21:21,072
-I think she has.
-So then dropping ahead

550
00:21:21,114 --> 00:21:24,909
to Heather's book party, um,
what was your motivation

551
00:21:24,951 --> 00:21:26,703
for going after Jen?

552
00:21:26,745 --> 00:21:28,288
Don't talk to my husband.

553
00:21:28,329 --> 00:21:29,789
Get out of my ----ing face,
okay?

554
00:21:29,831 --> 00:21:31,166
Don't get
in my mother----ing face.

555
00:21:31,207 --> 00:21:32,792
If you get in my face,
I can get right back, too.

556
00:21:32,834 --> 00:21:35,045
-Do it, honey. Do it.
-You like to bark. I bite.

557
00:21:35,086 --> 00:21:36,963
-Bite, honey. Bite.
-Okay, that's a ----ing...

558
00:21:37,005 --> 00:21:39,007
Bitch, you don't wanna catch
no mother----ing--okay, see?

559
00:21:39,049 --> 00:21:40,800
You're being ----ing indicted.
If I were you,

560
00:21:40,842 --> 00:21:42,677
I'd be real nice right now,
because especially if you want

561
00:21:42,719 --> 00:21:44,804
some money
on your ----ing books.

562
00:21:44,846 --> 00:21:46,639
[gasps]

563
00:21:46,681 --> 00:21:48,683
There's a reason why I blew up
that--that--that night, Andy.

564
00:21:48,725 --> 00:21:52,228
Because at our dinner
in San Diego,

565
00:21:52,270 --> 00:21:54,314
she was making fun
of where I was living.

566
00:21:54,356 --> 00:21:55,315
So I live on the west side
of Salt Lake City.

567
00:21:55,357 --> 00:21:57,984
It's like more
of a country town.

568
00:21:58,026 --> 00:22:00,612
She was like, "Danna, you're mad
'cause you live in Tooele."

569
00:22:00,653 --> 00:22:02,655
Like, bitch, she doesn't
even own a house.

570
00:22:02,697 --> 00:22:05,784
Like, I own multiple properties,
while her ass rents.

571
00:22:05,825 --> 00:22:09,245
And if I wanted to, I could buy
the house that she's renting

572
00:22:09,287 --> 00:22:10,747
and evict her. Like,
I don't know what the [bleep]

573
00:22:11,915 --> 00:22:14,000
she's talking about, making fun
that I live in Tooele.

574
00:22:14,042 --> 00:22:16,753
Why does she need to do that?
And then she's like,

575
00:22:16,795 --> 00:22:18,254
"Well, Danna's husband,
whatever his name is,

576
00:22:18,296 --> 00:22:19,756
like, Jorge, Humberto,
whatever it is..."

577
00:22:19,798 --> 00:22:22,342
Like, that's ----ing rude.
My husband's name is Ernesto.

578
00:22:22,384 --> 00:22:24,803
There is no need to make fun
of his name.

579
00:22:24,844 --> 00:22:27,597
So all of that time,
me sitting back,

580
00:22:27,639 --> 00:22:28,932
seeing the ways that she treats
the ladies,

581
00:22:28,973 --> 00:22:32,018
seeing the way that
she was treating me,

582
00:22:32,060 --> 00:22:34,646
I'm gonna address it, 'cause
what she's doing is not right.

583
00:22:34,688 --> 00:22:36,064
That's just me.

584
00:22:36,106 --> 00:22:38,692
Belyn from Oakland, uh, said,
"Angie H.,

585
00:22:38,733 --> 00:22:41,069
I think we all wanna know
what really happened

586
00:22:41,111 --> 00:22:43,071
at the Jazz game.
Did you tell Whitney and Heather

587
00:22:43,113 --> 00:22:45,198
that Lisa slept
with a rich friend

588
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,158
for Utah Jazz tickets?"

589
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:48,660
Absolutely not.

590
00:22:48,702 --> 00:22:50,912
And if not there, did you ever?

591
00:22:50,954 --> 00:22:55,041
Um, Whitney had discussed rumors
privately on the phone

592
00:22:55,083 --> 00:22:58,003
because John was behaving
in a way

593
00:22:58,044 --> 00:22:59,713
that I didn't understand
at a Jazz game.

594
00:22:59,754 --> 00:23:01,840
My husband just told your
husband to stay away from him.

595
00:23:01,881 --> 00:23:02,924
No, he--he yelled the "F" word
in front of your son.

596
00:23:04,175 --> 00:23:04,634
This is where--this is where
it got twisted.

597
00:23:05,927 --> 00:23:06,594
-Yeah, I know that. My son's--
-So this is good.

598
00:23:07,721 --> 00:23:08,138
-Keep it coming.
-Right, but he was acting

599
00:23:09,764 --> 00:23:10,015
like a lunatic. Security came.
-No, he was not. Don't--Don't--

600
00:23:10,682 --> 00:23:11,599
Lisa, security came.

601
00:23:12,934 --> 00:23:13,309
Don't talk about my husband's
character. Do not.

602
00:23:14,519 --> 00:23:14,978
Don't talk about
<i>my</i>husband's character.

603
00:23:16,521 --> 00:23:16,563
Well, your husband's character
the whole world knows about.

604
00:23:17,647 --> 00:23:17,689
Security came to my husband
and said,

605
00:23:18,773 --> 00:23:19,774
"Do you want to kick
John Barlow out

606
00:23:19,816 --> 00:23:21,693
'cause he's acting like
a psycho?"

607
00:23:21,735 --> 00:23:24,237
-So I called hitney.
-Okay.

608
00:23:24,279 --> 00:23:26,072
And I said it's interesting
'cause he's sitting

609
00:23:26,114 --> 00:23:28,158
in [bleep] seats,
and that's when you said to me,

610
00:23:28,199 --> 00:23:30,410
"Do you think there's something
going on there?"

611
00:23:30,452 --> 00:23:32,746
And I said, "I've always
wondered," and I have.

612
00:23:32,787 --> 00:23:34,330
-ANDY: Okay.
-Oh, my gosh.

613
00:23:34,372 --> 00:23:37,417
Angie and I have had
many conversations.

614
00:23:37,459 --> 00:23:39,919
So I gave her a pass
on that because

615
00:23:39,961 --> 00:23:41,796
maybe she forgot
making the joke, but and I--

616
00:23:41,838 --> 00:23:44,966
Can I ask what the joke was?
'Cause I'm still unclear

617
00:23:45,008 --> 00:23:48,094
because I never said that about
blow jobs for Jazz tickets.

618
00:23:48,136 --> 00:23:50,972
-But then you called me a liar.
-You--Because the blow jobs

619
00:23:51,014 --> 00:23:54,934
for Jazz tickets got twisted
in a mess in a drunk moment

620
00:23:54,976 --> 00:23:57,771
at the dinner table and--
-But did I say that?

621
00:23:57,812 --> 00:24:01,983
You said that Heather should
buddy up with [bleep],

622
00:24:02,025 --> 00:24:03,985
like our friend Lisa.

623
00:24:04,027 --> 00:24:06,363
And for the record, I did not,
nor would I ever.

624
00:24:06,404 --> 00:24:09,032
And nor do I believe
you would have done that.

625
00:24:09,074 --> 00:24:11,242
You talked about me.
It's enough.

626
00:24:11,284 --> 00:24:12,285
-Don't talk about my husband.
-I did talk about you.

627
00:24:12,327 --> 00:24:15,288
Lisa, that's rich
coming from you.

628
00:24:15,330 --> 00:24:17,290
Lisa, are you a Jazz fan?

629
00:24:17,332 --> 00:24:19,084
I'm, like,
a really big Jazz fan.

630
00:24:19,125 --> 00:24:20,293
I'm actually friends with some
of the players, too,

631
00:24:20,335 --> 00:24:22,337
but I don't sleep
with them either.

632
00:24:22,379 --> 00:24:23,463
Okay.

633
00:24:23,505 --> 00:24:25,382
Pablo from Corpus Christi said,

634
00:24:25,423 --> 00:24:28,968
"Meredith, you said someone
sent you proof

635
00:24:29,010 --> 00:24:31,012
that Lisa was creating
fake Instagram accounts

636
00:24:31,054 --> 00:24:34,099
to troll Angie."
-That's my point.

637
00:24:34,140 --> 00:24:34,849
-I never did. I never did.
-"You also said someone sent you

638
00:24:34,891 --> 00:24:36,309
Lisa's SEC filing.

639
00:24:36,351 --> 00:24:39,187
Who's sending you
all of this anti-Lisa stuff?"

640
00:24:39,229 --> 00:24:40,772
I don't have any troll accounts,
and I've never trolled anybody.

641
00:24:40,814 --> 00:24:43,858
-Oh, my God.
-I used my own face.

642
00:24:43,900 --> 00:24:44,984
-That's your battle.
-Lisa...

643
00:24:45,026 --> 00:24:47,362
Just--Just--
Just let her finish.

644
00:24:47,404 --> 00:24:48,697
-I never said that.
-I have a screenshot of it.

645
00:24:49,739 --> 00:24:51,074
-I have DMs. People say--
-She has DMs of it, too.

646
00:24:52,659 --> 00:24:53,368
-That I wrote, "Do not ever..."
-So don't say we're bullies.

647
00:24:54,494 --> 00:24:55,120
-This is insane.
-[all speaking at once]

648
00:24:56,538 --> 00:24:57,747
-'Cause you do it to all of us.
-I do not. I do not.

649
00:24:57,789 --> 00:24:59,165
Yes, you do.
We all have screenshots.

650
00:24:59,207 --> 00:25:01,126
-I don't, I don't.
-Under your Instagram account.

651
00:25:01,167 --> 00:25:02,460
You're trying to take away
from the fact

652
00:25:11,344 --> 00:25:13,972
***

653
00:25:14,848 --> 00:25:15,807
[women arguing indistinctly]

654
00:25:17,100 --> 00:25:17,350
-And I agreed.
-No, that's not in defense of--

655
00:25:18,727 --> 00:25:18,977
It was ----ed up to use it
under a different name.

656
00:25:20,478 --> 00:25:21,396
-He trolled me. He trolled me.
-All right. Let's move on.

657
00:25:21,438 --> 00:25:22,605
Okay.

658
00:25:22,647 --> 00:25:25,025
Sadie from Aspen said,
"Angie K.,

659
00:25:25,066 --> 00:25:27,444
you set the ladies up
with a house in San Diego,

660
00:25:27,485 --> 00:25:30,572
which was supposed to be Jen's
last hurrah before the trial."

661
00:25:30,613 --> 00:25:34,034
So did you feel like you were
the hostess of the trip?

662
00:25:34,075 --> 00:25:36,119
I felt that I was a co-hostess.

663
00:25:36,161 --> 00:25:38,288
Typically, when this group
has gone on a trip,

664
00:25:38,329 --> 00:25:40,206
Jen has the best room.

665
00:25:40,248 --> 00:25:42,584
What did you ladies think when
Angie took the biggest bedroom?

666
00:25:42,625 --> 00:25:44,127
Trouble. [laughs]

667
00:25:44,169 --> 00:25:46,046
You thought
it was gonna be trouble.

668
00:25:46,087 --> 00:25:47,881
-Yeah.
-Well, just the energy.

669
00:25:47,922 --> 00:25:49,257
You could feel that Jen
was amping up, you know?

670
00:25:49,299 --> 00:25:52,969
Why do you think
it bothered Jen so much

671
00:25:53,011 --> 00:25:55,305
that you were taking
hostess reins?

672
00:25:55,347 --> 00:26:00,560
To be totally truthful,
I feel that Jen wanted me

673
00:26:00,602 --> 00:26:02,145
in the group
but with conditions

674
00:26:02,187 --> 00:26:04,189
and that I had to always
kind of stay down here

675
00:26:04,230 --> 00:26:06,149
on a leash, right?

676
00:26:06,191 --> 00:26:08,943
And what message do you think
she was sending

677
00:26:08,985 --> 00:26:10,653
by pouring the champagne on you?

678
00:26:10,695 --> 00:26:13,406
-Let's--let's do this.
-[gasps]

679
00:26:13,448 --> 00:26:14,616
-Oh!
-Are you serious, Jen?

680
00:26:14,657 --> 00:26:16,242
Yeah, I'm serious.

681
00:26:16,284 --> 00:26:18,328
"You're below me. Stay quiet,

682
00:26:18,370 --> 00:26:20,997
and don't try
and take this trip over."

683
00:26:21,039 --> 00:26:23,458
She wanted to tell me
that she was in control.

684
00:26:23,500 --> 00:26:25,669
So she claimed that pouring
the champagne

685
00:26:25,710 --> 00:26:27,170
was meant to be a funny joke.

686
00:26:27,212 --> 00:26:29,005
She wasn't laughing or smiling
when she did it.

687
00:26:29,047 --> 00:26:31,925
-Mnh-mnh. It wasn't funny.
-No, it was not.

688
00:26:31,966 --> 00:26:34,344
So did anyone here
think it was funny?

689
00:26:34,386 --> 00:26:35,512
-I didn't think it was funny.
-Nobody laughed.

690
00:26:35,553 --> 00:26:37,430
You kinda thought it was funny.

691
00:26:37,472 --> 00:26:39,391
When I saw it played back,
I saw the humor in it.

692
00:26:39,432 --> 00:26:41,184
-Really? Where, Heather? Where?
-She said on the show

693
00:26:41,226 --> 00:26:42,185
it was a fun bitch move.
-It was a fun bitch move

694
00:26:43,019 --> 00:26:43,061
when I watched it back.
That's it.

695
00:26:43,978 --> 00:26:44,437
-Yeah.
-No, it was not funny.

696
00:26:45,689 --> 00:26:45,730
-There--Nobody found it funny.
-That's fine.

697
00:26:47,065 --> 00:26:47,107
-We all have different opinions.
-It was not funny,

698
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:48,483
even a little bit.
-Really poor sense of humor.

699
00:26:49,901 --> 00:26:49,943
There's jokes you make
that I don't think are funny.

700
00:26:51,069 --> 00:26:51,111
I didn't pour champagne
on your head.

701
00:26:52,237 --> 00:26:52,278
I wouldn't pour champagne
on your head.

702
00:26:53,363 --> 00:26:53,405
But it was fun
to watch it happening.

703
00:26:54,656 --> 00:26:54,698
And I've neer poured champagne
on your head.

704
00:26:55,699 --> 00:26:55,949
It was fun to watch it
happening.

705
00:26:57,492 --> 00:26:57,909
If you wanna crucify me for
saying it was a fun bitch move--

706
00:26:59,327 --> 00:26:59,577
Well, it's very apparent
that you don't like me, Heather.

707
00:27:01,204 --> 00:27:01,246
You're gonna have a really hard
time surviving on this couch.

708
00:27:02,539 --> 00:27:02,580
Or you wouldn't have found
that funny one bit.

709
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,250
Susan from Philly said,
"Angie K. actually equated Jen

710
00:27:05,291 --> 00:27:07,293
not paying her back
for the prty

711
00:27:07,335 --> 00:27:09,587
to her conning people
out of money,

712
00:27:09,629 --> 00:27:12,382
which is what she said Jen
was indicted for."

713
00:27:12,424 --> 00:27:14,634
Uh, Heather and Meredith,
what's your response to that?

714
00:27:14,676 --> 00:27:17,137
Below the belt.

715
00:27:17,178 --> 00:27:18,513
It was just hard for me to see.
They'd been so close.

716
00:27:18,555 --> 00:27:20,223
It was a little bit much
given the...

717
00:27:20,265 --> 00:27:22,142
-They'd been so close, yeah.
-A little champagne.

718
00:27:22,183 --> 00:27:23,601
So by confronting Jen
in front of the group--

719
00:27:23,643 --> 00:27:26,146
A little champagne?
Did it take a bucket

720
00:27:26,187 --> 00:27:29,065
for me to grasp the intention
of the disrespect?

721
00:27:29,107 --> 00:27:30,066
I'm not saying that, Angie,

722
00:27:30,108 --> 00:27:31,443
and I'm not defending her
doing it.

723
00:27:31,484 --> 00:27:33,153
Don't misunderstand me.
Clearly, you are v--

724
00:27:33,194 --> 00:27:37,407
You are totally minimizing it
and supporting her.

725
00:27:37,449 --> 00:27:38,575
I am not minimizing it.
I'm saying that you are

726
00:27:39,868 --> 00:27:40,410
taking it to a level--
-Let's see what happens

727
00:27:41,411 --> 00:27:41,661
when I dump a drink
on your head

728
00:27:42,829 --> 00:27:43,329
and how you feel.
-If I wear sweats at home

729
00:27:44,789 --> 00:27:44,831
and have a--own a salon
and can blow it out myself...

730
00:27:45,707 --> 00:27:47,417
Sweats, girl? I got up at 3 a.m.

731
00:27:47,459 --> 00:27:48,835
...and not think twice,
I would--I would've

732
00:27:48,877 --> 00:27:50,003
maybe been a little irritated,
but I wouldn't have...

733
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,130
3 a.m., just like you did
that morning.

734
00:27:53,631 --> 00:27:54,674
I wouldn't have completely
taken something to that level,

735
00:27:54,716 --> 00:27:56,426
is what I'm saying.
-Coming from--

736
00:27:56,468 --> 00:27:59,763
No, it wasn't that one moment.
It went back months and years.

737
00:27:59,804 --> 00:28:03,391
I was just at my tipping point
with her.

738
00:28:03,433 --> 00:28:05,352
I had held my composure
with her.

739
00:28:05,393 --> 00:28:07,103
Through calling me
a ----ing bitch,

740
00:28:07,145 --> 00:28:10,440
a ----ing fake bitch,
a ----ing thirsty bitch.

741
00:28:10,482 --> 00:28:13,276
"You talk to Lisa,
you ----ing fake fraud bitch."

742
00:28:13,318 --> 00:28:15,612
She got mad. We weren't
allowed to text each other.

743
00:28:15,653 --> 00:28:17,614
Neither were Meredith and I.

744
00:28:21,326 --> 00:28:22,535
She can have you.

745
00:28:22,577 --> 00:28:24,454
It goes back
to what you said earlier.

746
00:28:24,496 --> 00:28:27,749
"Stay down here, bitch. Stay on
your leash or you're out."

747
00:28:27,791 --> 00:28:29,125
May I ask you something, though,
Angie?

748
00:28:29,167 --> 00:28:30,710
-Sure.
-Why am I responsible

749
00:28:30,752 --> 00:28:32,587
to know all of that?
I didn't know any of that.

750
00:28:32,629 --> 00:28:35,048
Meredith, you don't need to know
my history with Jen,

751
00:28:35,090 --> 00:28:37,300
but just reading the room
in that moment

752
00:28:37,342 --> 00:28:39,803
of how uncomfortable I was.

753
00:28:39,844 --> 00:28:41,179
I mean, you should work
in a cubicle.

754
00:28:41,221 --> 00:28:43,723
You apparently have
zero people skills.

755
00:28:43,765 --> 00:28:45,308
No, I don't work in a cubicle,

756
00:28:45,350 --> 00:28:46,810
and my business is
extraordinarily social.

757
00:28:46,851 --> 00:28:48,770
I have very good people skills,
Angie.

758
00:28:48,812 --> 00:28:50,689
I haven't been the one

759
00:28:50,730 --> 00:28:52,524
trying to get on this show
for three years.

760
00:28:52,565 --> 00:28:54,275
-I have not called anyone.
-Oh, okay.

761
00:28:54,317 --> 00:28:55,610
Referred by one, two, and three.

762
00:28:55,652 --> 00:28:56,695
Oh, they all have been
reaching out to you.

763
00:28:56,736 --> 00:28:58,196
That's why you
weren't on season 1.

764
00:28:58,238 --> 00:28:59,572
-ANDY: All right. All right.
-Trying to get on the show?

765
00:28:59,614 --> 00:29:00,740
I'm from ----ing Salt Lake City,
okay?

766
00:29:00,782 --> 00:29:02,325
-Okay, okay, very good.
-Yeah, you are.

767
00:29:02,367 --> 00:29:03,702
-I know people here.
-ANDY: All right. Okay, Great.

768
00:29:03,743 --> 00:29:05,161
-Oh, good. I'm happy for you.
-Not like your first

769
00:29:06,329 --> 00:29:06,371
birthday party where it wasn't
your party. It was Jen's.

770
00:29:07,914 --> 00:29:11,126
Moving on. Moving on. Moving on.
Um, Angie K., you pissed off

771
00:29:11,167 --> 00:29:13,503
Meredith and Heather
by telling Lisa,

772
00:29:13,545 --> 00:29:17,590
uh, what Meredith had said
about the SEC filing.

773
00:29:17,632 --> 00:29:20,844
-Why--Why bring it up?
-Uh, well, I am friends

774
00:29:20,885 --> 00:29:23,555
with Lisa, and I brought it up
for a couple reasons.

775
00:29:23,596 --> 00:29:26,683
Two days before we went
to San Diego,

776
00:29:26,725 --> 00:29:29,310
Jen was trying to expose
Heather's business to me,

777
00:29:29,352 --> 00:29:32,814
and, you know, I don't wanna
embarrass you,

778
00:29:32,856 --> 00:29:36,526
because it wasn't kind,
and she sat there sending me--

779
00:29:36,568 --> 00:29:37,694
Go for it. [laughs]

780
00:29:37,736 --> 00:29:39,320
She sent me
all this information...

781
00:29:39,362 --> 00:29:40,822
-She dug.
-...calling you

782
00:29:40,864 --> 00:29:43,658
a lying bitch ass ho, saying
that she was going to expose

783
00:29:43,700 --> 00:29:46,828
your ass, okay? Two days later,

784
00:29:46,870 --> 00:29:49,372
I'm watching her with you
and Meredith in the car

785
00:29:49,414 --> 00:29:51,416
doing the exact same thing...
-Exact same thing

786
00:29:51,458 --> 00:29:53,168
...to Lisa,
and I was very triggered.

787
00:29:53,209 --> 00:29:55,211
I wanted to get the hell
out of that car.

788
00:29:55,253 --> 00:29:56,671
-Mm-hmm.
-And the only way that I felt

789
00:29:56,713 --> 00:29:59,257
like I could make it right was
to share with Lisa

790
00:29:59,299 --> 00:30:01,676
this is what was being said.
-Which I'm glad she did.

791
00:30:01,718 --> 00:30:04,471
And who is next? Me?
I have worked my ass off

792
00:30:04,512 --> 00:30:06,639
for my business and reputation,
and I know you both have, too.

793
00:30:06,681 --> 00:30:10,602
-And I did not like it.
-What's your reaction to hearing

794
00:30:10,643 --> 00:30:12,896
she was trash-talking
your business?

795
00:30:12,937 --> 00:30:14,397
I think it's par for the course
with Jen,

796
00:30:14,439 --> 00:30:16,399
and my business stands
for itself, you know?

797
00:30:16,441 --> 00:30:18,526
I'm really proud of it.
I'm proud of how it started.

798
00:30:18,568 --> 00:30:21,738
Does it offend you
or upset you to hear that?

799
00:30:21,780 --> 00:30:23,656
Well, it's just, I find it
interesting how we have

800
00:30:23,698 --> 00:30:25,367
this selective morality
like we're--

801
00:30:25,408 --> 00:30:26,785
we'll do it with Jen when it's

802
00:30:26,826 --> 00:30:29,371
about someone
that we wanna do it with,

803
00:30:29,412 --> 00:30:31,706
but nobody informed me
until they found out

804
00:30:31,748 --> 00:30:33,291
that Jen couldn't carry the ball
to the finish line

805
00:30:34,626 --> 00:30:36,419
and didn't give me an ultimatum
or do whatever she wanted to do,

806
00:30:36,461 --> 00:30:37,671
so how do we pick and choose
when we're just gonna, like,

807
00:30:37,712 --> 00:30:40,256
stand up for truth
and righteousness?

808
00:30:40,298 --> 00:30:41,466
-Wait a minute.
-It seems like it's never

809
00:30:41,508 --> 00:30:43,551
on my behalf, but--
-That's lumping a lot

810
00:30:43,593 --> 00:30:45,553
of people in together.
-I'm not lumping you.

811
00:30:45,595 --> 00:30:46,805
ANDY: She didn't say anything
about you.

812
00:30:46,846 --> 00:30:48,431
-He asked my answer. I just--
-Can we move--

813
00:30:48,473 --> 00:30:49,808
No, but just by saying when we
all go along with it.

814
00:30:49,849 --> 00:30:51,351
I have never gone along
with any schemes with Jen.

815
00:30:51,393 --> 00:30:53,311
I have never participated
in that,

816
00:30:53,353 --> 00:30:55,605
and I actually think it's wrong
when Jen does that,

817
00:30:55,647 --> 00:30:57,941
and I've always tried
to help her

818
00:30:57,982 --> 00:30:59,901
to not do bad things.

819
00:30:59,943 --> 00:31:03,446
Okay, let's change gears
to the black eye.

820
00:31:03,488 --> 00:31:05,532
-You ready, Heather?
-Totally. Bring it.

821
00:31:05,573 --> 00:31:09,327
***

822
00:31:09,369 --> 00:31:10,954
<i>Coming up...</i>

823
00:31:10,995 --> 00:31:12,831
I don't know how I got
the black eye.

824
00:31:12,872 --> 00:31:15,333
You were making comments
in San Diego that

825
00:31:15,375 --> 00:31:16,793
you knew what happened.

826
00:31:16,835 --> 00:31:18,795
Women in the group knew
what happened.

827
00:31:18,837 --> 00:31:21,381
I started to remember
certain things like

828
00:31:21,423 --> 00:31:23,591
Jen picked up the wig, and I was
like, where was the wig?

829
00:31:23,633 --> 00:31:25,802
I remembered, like,
being by the pool.

830
00:31:25,844 --> 00:31:27,846
I thought somebody here knows.

831
00:31:35,603 --> 00:31:39,691
***

832
00:31:40,900 --> 00:31:42,360
Okay. Let's move on.
You ready, Heather?

833
00:31:42,402 --> 00:31:43,695
Yeah, totally. Bring it.

834
00:31:43,737 --> 00:31:45,363
Well, all eyes were on Heather
this season

835
00:31:45,405 --> 00:31:49,784
when she woke up
with a huge shiner in San Diego.

836
00:31:49,826 --> 00:31:53,413
Was her black eye thanks
to a drunken blackout?

837
00:31:53,455 --> 00:31:56,041
Do these women have a Fight Club
we don't know about?

838
00:31:56,082 --> 00:31:57,792
Let's take a look.

839
00:31:57,834 --> 00:31:59,753
***

840
00:31:59,794 --> 00:32:01,087
Yes!

841
00:32:01,129 --> 00:32:03,548
Where is bottle service?

842
00:32:03,590 --> 00:32:06,468
-I want a pepperoni. I got--
-Whoo!

843
00:32:06,509 --> 00:32:07,635
-What? What?
-[laughter]

844
00:32:17,896 --> 00:32:18,855
What's wrong?

845
00:32:18,897 --> 00:32:22,442
***

846
00:32:22,484 --> 00:32:25,070
What the [bleep] happened?

847
00:32:25,111 --> 00:32:26,946
I don't want to get anyone
in trouble, Jen.

848
00:32:26,988 --> 00:32:30,158
-When did this happen?
-We--When--

849
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:31,618
We were with you
until 4 in the morning.

850
00:32:42,212 --> 00:32:44,589
I didn't say I don't
remember how it happened.

851
00:32:47,717 --> 00:32:49,511
I just said I'm not talking
about it.

852
00:32:49,552 --> 00:32:51,846
It's the first rule
about Fight Club.

853
00:32:51,888 --> 00:32:53,139
WHITNEY:
Tell me about last night.

854
00:32:53,181 --> 00:32:55,016
'Cause I heard
a lot of commotion.

855
00:32:55,058 --> 00:32:56,976
Well, I think we all know
what happened.

856
00:32:57,018 --> 00:32:58,853
I just think we don't wanna
talk about it.

857
00:32:58,895 --> 00:33:02,065
LISA: Wait. What happened?

858
00:33:02,107 --> 00:33:03,983
-Oh, my God.
-What the [bleep] happened?

859
00:33:04,025 --> 00:33:05,610
What the [bleep] happened?

860
00:33:05,652 --> 00:33:08,863
-Oh, my God.
-I don't know.

861
00:33:08,905 --> 00:33:11,533
Can we go down there and address
what happened to you

862
00:33:11,574 --> 00:33:13,576
about the black eye? 'Cause we
wanna bring everything up

863
00:33:13,618 --> 00:33:15,745
so I can talk to these bitches.
-All you'd have to say

864
00:33:15,787 --> 00:33:17,956
to shut all them up is, like,
"Why don't we talk about

865
00:33:17,997 --> 00:33:19,457
how Heather really got
her black eye?"

866
00:33:19,499 --> 00:33:20,875
You say, "You know what?
Keep pushing me, guys.

867
00:33:20,917 --> 00:33:24,045
And I'll tell you exactly how
the black eye happened."

868
00:33:24,087 --> 00:33:25,797
I'm so confused at this point.

869
00:33:25,839 --> 00:33:29,050
Like, is Heather saying
that Jen had something to do

870
00:33:29,092 --> 00:33:31,052
with this black eye?

871
00:33:31,094 --> 00:33:32,595
Just doesn't make any sense.

872
00:33:32,637 --> 00:33:35,598
Do you really not remember?
Did you black out?

873
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,227
Or do you know what happened?

874
00:33:39,269 --> 00:33:41,563
-I remember how I got it.
-You do?

875
00:33:41,604 --> 00:33:43,773
Yeah, and other people know
how I got it, too.

876
00:33:43,815 --> 00:33:46,651
-Do you have any recollection?
-No.

877
00:33:46,693 --> 00:33:48,153
There's a part of me,
and tell me if I'm wrong,

878
00:33:48,194 --> 00:33:51,781
that, like, feels like
you're protecting somebody.

879
00:33:51,823 --> 00:33:55,702
I don't really wanna
talk about it.

880
00:33:55,744 --> 00:33:57,704
Okay. You told several
different stories

881
00:33:57,746 --> 00:33:59,873
relating to the eye.

882
00:33:59,914 --> 00:34:02,751
You didn't know what happened,
you knew what happened,

883
00:34:02,792 --> 00:34:04,919
everybody here knows
what happened,

884
00:34:04,961 --> 00:34:06,838
some people here
know what happened.

885
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,132
What do you think happened?

886
00:34:09,174 --> 00:34:11,634
I blacked out.
I don't know how it happened.

887
00:34:11,676 --> 00:34:13,678
I wish you had said that
in the moment

888
00:34:13,720 --> 00:34:15,722
because it caused
so much damage.

889
00:34:15,764 --> 00:34:19,684
I think that, you know,
an investigation was launched.

890
00:34:19,726 --> 00:34:20,852
-I wanted that investigation.
-People were interviewed.

891
00:34:20,894 --> 00:34:22,687
-Well, that's what the--
-I blacked out.

892
00:34:22,729 --> 00:34:24,856
-It could have been drugs.
-There was an investigation.

893
00:34:24,898 --> 00:34:26,191
-It impacts--
-They didn't find anything.

894
00:34:26,232 --> 00:34:28,026
And there was no additional
footage, by the way,

895
00:34:28,068 --> 00:34:29,194
or else
it would have been shown.

896
00:34:29,235 --> 00:34:30,779
I know, and that was
after the fact.

897
00:34:30,820 --> 00:34:33,615
I woke up, terrified.
I had my phone plugged in.

898
00:34:33,656 --> 00:34:35,867
-I wish you had said that.
-I was in pajamas.

899
00:34:35,909 --> 00:34:37,160
-I wish you had said that.
-But why say--why say that

900
00:34:38,620 --> 00:34:39,871
you knew what happened?
-'Cause I was scared that they

901
00:34:39,913 --> 00:34:41,122
would rewrite the narrative
in a way

902
00:34:41,164 --> 00:34:42,540
if I said I didn't know,
then they could say

903
00:34:42,582 --> 00:34:43,667
anything they wanted,
and I was afraid--

904
00:34:43,708 --> 00:34:45,627
-Who's they?
-Who's they?

905
00:34:45,669 --> 00:34:48,296
-My castmates.
-No, if you said you didn't know

906
00:34:48,338 --> 00:34:49,631
what happened and you went
to your room and said,

907
00:34:50,590 --> 00:34:51,508
"I blacked out because
I drank too much"--

908
00:34:52,634 --> 00:34:52,926
Well, that's what I meant
when I was like,

909
00:34:54,344 --> 00:34:54,386
"Everyone knows what happened.
Like, I blacked out."

910
00:34:55,261 --> 00:34:55,512
No, we didn't. We didn't know.

911
00:34:56,721 --> 00:34:57,055
I feel like they needed you
to say the truth

912
00:34:58,431 --> 00:34:59,516
because it impacted
people that were on production

913
00:35:00,892 --> 00:35:03,645
that were up late with us.
-I know, and I didn't--

914
00:35:03,687 --> 00:35:04,771
And then it makes them look like
they did it to you.

915
00:35:05,980 --> 00:35:06,022
When production came in my room,
I told them.

916
00:35:06,981 --> 00:35:08,024
-Yeah.
-I said, "I have no idea.

917
00:35:09,651 --> 00:35:10,860
I have no memory," and then it
spun out of control after that,

918
00:35:12,445 --> 00:35:12,487
and I take full responsibility.
-But it impacts livelihoods.

919
00:35:13,655 --> 00:35:14,823
-It impacts everybody.
-I'm really sorry.

920
00:35:16,199 --> 00:35:16,241
-It was terrifying.
-But I wish you had just said

921
00:35:17,283 --> 00:35:18,618
you didn't remember.
You blacked out.

922
00:35:18,660 --> 00:35:20,120
-You were blackout drunk.
-I could not even--

923
00:35:20,161 --> 00:35:23,206
I would've choked on the words,
Lisa. It was humiliating.

924
00:35:23,248 --> 00:35:24,958
-I don't wanna black out.
-The door jiggling was--

925
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,042
I don't wanna get drunk
and black out

926
00:35:27,252 --> 00:35:29,087
and have no memory of it.
It was terrifying.

927
00:35:29,129 --> 00:35:31,006
You're not the first Housewife
that's blacked out

928
00:35:31,047 --> 00:35:32,924
on an all-girls trip.
-And it was humiliating.

929
00:35:32,966 --> 00:35:34,217
-Yeah, you're not the first one.
-I have a lot of Mormon shame

930
00:35:35,635 --> 00:35:36,219
about drinking, and I've already
dealt with a lot of it

931
00:35:37,512 --> 00:35:38,304
on the show. Now it's public,
and I'm waking up

932
00:35:39,764 --> 00:35:42,183
with not a friend in the world
with a giant black eye,

933
00:35:42,225 --> 00:35:43,309
and that was terrifying.

934
00:35:43,351 --> 00:35:44,728
It looked like
you were assaulted.

935
00:35:44,769 --> 00:35:46,021
-It did.
-I know. I know.

936
00:35:46,062 --> 00:35:47,230
And you had scratches
all over your body.

937
00:35:47,272 --> 00:35:48,815
It was just like,

938
00:35:48,857 --> 00:35:51,317
I woke up in a very, very
high-stress situation

939
00:35:51,359 --> 00:35:54,237
with so much shame
and humiliation.

940
00:35:54,279 --> 00:35:56,865
There was no way to hide it,
and I went to my thing

941
00:35:56,906 --> 00:35:59,117
which is just humor, and, like,
just make it go away.

942
00:35:59,159 --> 00:36:01,870
And it didn't go away,
but I certainly do not

943
00:36:01,911 --> 00:36:04,289
wanna implicate anyone here,
anyone on production.

944
00:36:04,330 --> 00:36:08,793
It's my own guilt and shame
about blacking out

945
00:36:08,835 --> 00:36:11,129
and not being able
to explain it.

946
00:36:11,171 --> 00:36:14,007
Walk me through
what you do remember.

947
00:36:14,049 --> 00:36:15,717
I remember saying,
"Marilyn died in the nude,"

948
00:36:15,759 --> 00:36:17,218
and us, like, flashing,
you know?

949
00:36:17,260 --> 00:36:18,887
-Okay.
-And the titties part.

950
00:36:18,928 --> 00:36:21,639
I remember joking around
with the boobs.

951
00:36:21,681 --> 00:36:24,184
And I remember
coming to my room,

952
00:36:24,225 --> 00:36:27,062
taking my wig off,
and that's it.

953
00:36:27,103 --> 00:36:33,026
And I woke up in my pajamas
and a horrible black eye

954
00:36:33,068 --> 00:36:34,486
and Jen said scratches
on my back

955
00:36:34,527 --> 00:36:35,737
and scratches on my arm,
which could have been anything.

956
00:36:35,779 --> 00:36:36,946
And I didn't want
an investigation.

957
00:36:36,988 --> 00:36:38,239
-I didn't wanna, like--
-Why?

958
00:36:38,281 --> 00:36:41,701
I was humiliated.
Because I was embarrassed.

959
00:36:41,743 --> 00:36:42,869
-But you just said you--
-You just said you wanted one.

960
00:36:42,911 --> 00:36:46,331
You just said you wanted
an investigation.

961
00:36:46,373 --> 00:36:47,749
You said it
a couple minutes ago.

962
00:36:47,791 --> 00:36:49,751
You just said, "I wanted
an investigation."

963
00:36:49,793 --> 00:36:50,919
No, I mean, I wanted
an investigation to rule it out

964
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,170
that I'd not been assaulted.
-Mm-hmm.

965
00:36:52,212 --> 00:36:53,254
But I didn't wanna do it then
in San Diego.

966
00:36:53,296 --> 00:36:55,674
This is after talking
to attorneys.

967
00:36:55,715 --> 00:36:57,342
I spoke with a doctor.

968
00:36:57,384 --> 00:36:58,927
He said you'd have to have
a medical condition

969
00:36:58,968 --> 00:37:00,220
to not know how you got
that black eye,

970
00:37:00,261 --> 00:37:02,931
and I don't know how I got
the black eye.

971
00:37:02,972 --> 00:37:07,018
The door handle jiggling was
actually Meredith and Angie K.

972
00:37:07,060 --> 00:37:09,020
and Jen coming into your room.

973
00:37:14,192 --> 00:37:20,198
[indistinct conversations,
laughter]

974
00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:22,867
-Do you remember that?
-No.

975
00:37:22,909 --> 00:37:25,704
You don't remember them
coming into the room?

976
00:37:25,745 --> 00:37:26,705
I don't remember anything
that I saw unfold on footage.

977
00:37:26,746 --> 00:37:29,916
I remembered by the pool--

978
00:37:29,958 --> 00:37:31,793
Do you remember, Meredith,
going into the room and what

979
00:37:31,835 --> 00:37:33,294
time was that, probably?
-Do you remember?

980
00:37:33,336 --> 00:37:34,796
-Late, like 4 in the morning.
-She's like, "I'm sober."

981
00:37:34,838 --> 00:37:36,965
-Like 4 in the morning.
-3, 4 in the morning.

982
00:37:37,007 --> 00:37:38,299
-And I seemed coherent.
-And were you as blitzed

983
00:37:38,341 --> 00:37:39,926
as everyone else?
-I don't think I was.

984
00:37:39,968 --> 00:37:41,219
No, I wasn't.
I certainly wasn't blackout.

985
00:37:41,261 --> 00:37:44,848
No, I-I-I was surprised because
people had said,

986
00:37:44,889 --> 00:37:46,975
"Do you think Heather
could have blacked out?"

987
00:37:47,017 --> 00:37:50,311
And I said, "Honestly,
that dinner was very long,

988
00:37:50,353 --> 00:37:52,814
and the servers couldn't come in
'cause we were arguing,

989
00:37:52,856 --> 00:37:55,150
so everyone was served
one drink.

990
00:37:55,191 --> 00:37:57,152
And then we went to that club,
and we were there for what,

991
00:37:57,193 --> 00:37:59,112
20 minutes? Not long.
-It wasn't long.

992
00:37:59,154 --> 00:38:02,198
So I didn't think anyone
had had that much to drink.

993
00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:04,826
So why was Jen your first call
the next morning

994
00:38:04,868 --> 00:38:08,413
to try to figure out
what happened?

995
00:38:08,455 --> 00:38:10,832
Do you think Jen punched you
in the eye?

996
00:38:20,550 --> 00:38:25,180
***

997
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:30,935
***

998
00:38:30,977 --> 00:38:32,937
So why was Jen your first call
the next morning

999
00:38:32,979 --> 00:38:36,191
to try to figure out
what happened?

1000
00:38:36,232 --> 00:38:38,568
Because I trusted her the most.

1001
00:38:38,610 --> 00:38:40,528
Trusted her the most for what?

1002
00:38:40,570 --> 00:38:42,364
For coming up with a cover story
when you black out

1003
00:38:42,405 --> 00:38:43,656
and you have a black eye.

1004
00:38:43,698 --> 00:38:46,159
But it also made her
look guilty, too.

1005
00:38:46,201 --> 00:38:48,078
The way that you
talked about it,

1006
00:38:48,119 --> 00:38:50,663
it really seemed like she--
you two got in a altercation,

1007
00:38:50,705 --> 00:38:52,332
and you were,
like, looking to her, like,

1008
00:38:52,374 --> 00:38:54,000
"Are you gonna say it?"
-And it wouldn't be surprising.

1009
00:38:54,042 --> 00:38:55,210
I mean, look at the yacht
the day before.

1010
00:38:55,251 --> 00:38:56,503
But do you see that?
It like, read, like...

1011
00:38:56,544 --> 00:38:58,630
Did you ask her if it was she?

1012
00:38:58,672 --> 00:39:01,591
Did you say,
"Did you do this to me?"

1013
00:39:01,633 --> 00:39:04,177
I think we joked about it.

1014
00:39:04,219 --> 00:39:06,262
Like, "Did I do this to you?"

1015
00:39:06,304 --> 00:39:09,516
Like, kind of maybe an exchange,
but, like, it wasn't about that.

1016
00:39:09,557 --> 00:39:12,018
Like, I would have rather have
Jen do that to me

1017
00:39:12,060 --> 00:39:13,478
than a stranger.

1018
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,026
Do you think Jen punched you
in the eye?

1019
00:39:20,068 --> 00:39:22,028
-I don't know.
-Do you know?

1020
00:39:22,070 --> 00:39:23,321
-I mean, I didn't wanna--
-Do you know--

1021
00:39:23,363 --> 00:39:24,364
That's why I didn't wanna
have these questions,

1022
00:39:24,406 --> 00:39:26,449
'cause I don't know.
I blacked out.

1023
00:39:26,491 --> 00:39:29,244
So you don't know if
she punched you in the eye?

1024
00:39:29,285 --> 00:39:32,622
I cannot speak to anything
other than I walked to my room,

1025
00:39:32,664 --> 00:39:35,000
and I blacked out
and woke up with a black eye.

1026
00:39:35,041 --> 00:39:39,170
Is there a part of you--
is there a part of you

1027
00:39:39,212 --> 00:39:42,674
that thought, "If she did this,
I want to cover it up

1028
00:39:42,716 --> 00:39:48,054
so that she isn't penalized
in any greater way by a judge

1029
00:39:48,096 --> 00:39:50,015
or in her case"?

1030
00:39:50,056 --> 00:39:53,268
If I knew Jen did that,
I would cover it up,

1031
00:39:53,309 --> 00:39:56,438
but that was not my intention.
I did not--I was blacked out.

1032
00:39:56,479 --> 00:39:59,733
Is your biggest regret
of the season

1033
00:39:59,774 --> 00:40:01,401
not waking up and saying,
"You guys, I blacked out

1034
00:40:01,443 --> 00:40:03,319
last night,
and I'm so embarrassed"?

1035
00:40:03,361 --> 00:40:04,446
I did say that
when it first happened. I did.

1036
00:40:05,697 --> 00:40:07,115
But you were making comments
in San Diego that

1037
00:40:07,157 --> 00:40:09,409
you knew what happened,

1038
00:40:09,451 --> 00:40:12,287
the women in the group
knew what happened,

1039
00:40:12,328 --> 00:40:14,247
that we're causing confusion.

1040
00:40:14,289 --> 00:40:16,666
Yeah, because we thought that
maybe if they knew that we knew,

1041
00:40:16,708 --> 00:40:18,668
I mean, somebody would maybe
say something,

1042
00:40:18,710 --> 00:40:21,671
and also I started to remember
certain things,

1043
00:40:21,713 --> 00:40:24,424
like Jen picked up the wig,
and I was like,

1044
00:40:24,466 --> 00:40:26,009
"Where was the wig?"
I started to put clues together.

1045
00:40:26,051 --> 00:40:27,510
Some things were coming back.

1046
00:40:27,552 --> 00:40:30,263
I remembered, like,
being by the pool.

1047
00:40:30,305 --> 00:40:33,767
Like, you know what I mean?
I thought somebody here knows.

1048
00:40:33,808 --> 00:40:35,727
Like, it was
a horrible black eye

1049
00:40:35,769 --> 00:40:38,605
that took 10 days.
It did not look like a fall

1050
00:40:38,646 --> 00:40:40,482
into a doorknob.
We didn't even have doorknobs.

1051
00:40:40,523 --> 00:40:42,400
You blacked out.
Anything could have happened.

1052
00:40:42,442 --> 00:40:43,777
Anything could have happened,
and I assumed

1053
00:40:43,818 --> 00:40:46,279
when I was on a show
with cameras and cast,

1054
00:40:46,321 --> 00:40:50,075
that somebody would give me
the trigger

1055
00:40:50,116 --> 00:40:52,619
that would make me remember,
and I still don't know.

1056
00:40:52,660 --> 00:40:53,787
ANDY: All right.

1057
00:40:53,828 --> 00:40:55,538
I still don't know
how I got it.

1058
00:40:55,580 --> 00:40:59,501
I wanna know from the ladies,
how do you think this happened?

1059
00:40:59,542 --> 00:41:02,128
I believe that she had
an accident

1060
00:41:02,170 --> 00:41:03,296
and didn't remember.
She blacked out.

1061
00:41:03,338 --> 00:41:05,465
Or Jen hit her.

1062
00:41:05,507 --> 00:41:08,718
I have two theories. I thought
maybe she tripped and fell.

1063
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,470
My second thing was,

1064
00:41:10,512 --> 00:41:11,638
Jen was very off and not present
the next day.

1065
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,181
-Mm-hmm.
-She was very quiet, to herself.

1066
00:41:13,223 --> 00:41:14,599
She was on her phone a lot,

1067
00:41:14,641 --> 00:41:16,309
and then when production
asked Heather

1068
00:41:16,351 --> 00:41:18,395
at the Greek dinner,
"What happened to your eye?"

1069
00:41:18,436 --> 00:41:19,729
Jen looked at her quietly
and said,

1070
00:41:19,771 --> 00:41:21,314
"What are you gonna say
happened?"

1071
00:41:21,356 --> 00:41:22,732
And that just gave me
a very kind of dark feeling...

1072
00:41:22,774 --> 00:41:24,150
-Same.
-...that there was something

1073
00:41:24,192 --> 00:41:25,527
that they knew
that were not sharing

1074
00:41:25,568 --> 00:41:27,362
with the rest of the group.
-ANDY: Danna?

1075
00:41:27,404 --> 00:41:30,073
I think, honestly, they got
drunk. They had a great time.

1076
00:41:30,115 --> 00:41:32,409
Maybe there were some elbows
thrown accidentally,

1077
00:41:32,450 --> 00:41:34,119
or maybe she accidentally
hit you

1078
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,579
and she remembered it,
but you didn't remember it.

1079
00:41:36,621 --> 00:41:39,749
Angie K., at the finale,
you said she may have received

1080
00:41:39,791 --> 00:41:41,751
the black eye during
Barbie scissor kicks

1081
00:41:41,793 --> 00:41:43,837
and suggested that may be
the result

1082
00:41:43,878 --> 00:41:47,590
of some sort of sexcapade
gone wrong.

1083
00:41:47,632 --> 00:41:49,175
What led you to believe that?

1084
00:41:49,217 --> 00:41:52,762
Well, I was talking to
some people, and they said,

1085
00:41:52,804 --> 00:41:54,431
"Have you ever heard
of any sexual relations

1086
00:41:54,472 --> 00:41:57,267
between Heather and Jen?"

1087
00:41:57,308 --> 00:42:04,357
***

1088
00:42:04,399 --> 00:42:05,817
Next week, it's part two

1089
00:42:05,859 --> 00:42:08,319
of "The Real Housewives
of Salt Lake City" Reunion.

1090
00:42:08,361 --> 00:42:09,696
***

1091
00:42:09,738 --> 00:42:12,115
Bringing awareness to taint play

1092
00:42:12,157 --> 00:42:14,409
is something that
I'm very passionate about.

1093
00:42:14,451 --> 00:42:16,786
A toe in the taint
is pretty sexy.

1094
00:42:16,828 --> 00:42:18,204
[laughter]

1095
00:42:18,246 --> 00:42:19,664
I think I can help you two,
though.

1096
00:42:19,706 --> 00:42:20,582
I can bring you back together.

1097
00:42:22,834 --> 00:42:24,711
I think he means Seth and I.
[laughs]

1098
00:42:24,753 --> 00:42:26,463
Yeah, if I can bring Meredith
and Lisa back together...

1099
00:42:26,504 --> 00:42:29,424
I think you have a new career.
Dr. Phil.

1100
00:42:29,466 --> 00:42:32,510
I've just been schooled to never
talk about these things.

1101
00:42:32,552 --> 00:42:35,263
I've already felt the pressure
of writing the book.

1102
00:42:35,305 --> 00:42:36,556
You know, I'm in litigation
with the Church.

1103
00:42:36,598 --> 00:42:39,309
***

1104
00:42:39,351 --> 00:42:42,896
She pled guilty. That doesn't
make you have any reaction?

1105
00:42:42,937 --> 00:42:44,314
It's horrible, like,
to hear that--

1106
00:42:44,356 --> 00:42:46,399
I mean, it is so wild to me.
She actually--

1107
00:42:46,441 --> 00:42:49,569
You're sitting there in the tub
gloating about her sentence,

1108
00:42:49,611 --> 00:42:52,280
and now you're like,
"Meh. Whatever."

1109
00:42:52,322 --> 00:42:53,740
***

1110
00:42:53,782 --> 00:42:57,160
There was speculation
that she pled guilty

1111
00:42:57,202 --> 00:43:00,663
to keep Coach from being
implicated.

1112
00:43:00,705 --> 00:43:03,333
If that was true,
it makes sense.

1113
00:43:03,375 --> 00:43:05,543
So does that mean you think
he possibly had knowledge

1114
00:43:05,585 --> 00:43:06,670
and is letting her
take the fall?

1115
00:43:06,711 --> 00:43:08,171
Possibly.

1116
00:43:08,213 --> 00:43:11,591
***