1 00:00:00,222 --> 00:00:02,920 Previously on "The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City"... 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:07,055 Jack is gonna serve a mission for our church. 3 00:00:07,055 --> 00:00:08,100 No way. 4 00:00:08,100 --> 00:00:09,579 - Have you told Heather? - No. 5 00:00:09,579 --> 00:00:12,104 - No? - You're a door to door salesman. 6 00:00:12,104 --> 00:00:14,628 You are knocking on doors, selling 7 00:00:14,628 --> 00:00:16,195 The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. 8 00:00:16,195 --> 00:00:17,631 That's all it is. 9 00:00:17,631 --> 00:00:20,503 Mom, I need your help with the kids. 10 00:00:23,028 --> 00:00:25,291 I'm good for two hours. 11 00:00:25,291 --> 00:00:28,076 There are all these rumors out there about Angie 12 00:00:28,076 --> 00:00:29,860 that I have heard. 13 00:00:29,860 --> 00:00:31,862 Do you know what the rumor is? Angie needs to know. 14 00:00:31,862 --> 00:00:37,085 The rumor is that Shawn likes to [bleep] other men. 15 00:00:39,522 --> 00:00:43,831 Are you----ing kidding me? You know, she's a sick bitch. 16 00:00:46,312 --> 00:00:49,271 Hey, Meredith, do you have a second? 17 00:01:01,588 --> 00:01:03,416 Hey, Meredith, do you have a second? 18 00:01:03,416 --> 00:01:04,765 Sure. 19 00:01:04,765 --> 00:01:06,897 Okay, let's come on over here where it's quiet. 20 00:01:11,859 --> 00:01:15,167 Well, you know, I'll just kind of get right to the point. 21 00:01:15,167 --> 00:01:17,343 It sounds like you are out spreading rumors 22 00:01:17,343 --> 00:01:19,519 about my marriage and my husband. 23 00:01:19,519 --> 00:01:23,088 I obviously don't need to go into detail 24 00:01:23,088 --> 00:01:25,046 because you know what it is. 25 00:01:25,046 --> 00:01:26,700 I don't know what you're talking about. 26 00:01:26,700 --> 00:01:28,180 There are rumors about you. I am not spreading them. 27 00:01:28,180 --> 00:01:30,443 But you are out spreading them. 28 00:01:30,443 --> 00:01:32,314 You have said it to multiple women in the group. 29 00:01:32,314 --> 00:01:34,142 And I have been told by the girls 30 00:01:34,142 --> 00:01:37,276 that you are saying things about my husband and other men. 31 00:01:37,276 --> 00:01:38,799 And, Meredith, you know what-- 32 00:01:38,799 --> 00:01:42,455 I'm not talking about your husband. 33 00:01:42,455 --> 00:01:43,804 First of all, I've not talked to Whitney. 34 00:01:43,804 --> 00:01:45,414 so I don't know what you were saying with her. 35 00:01:45,414 --> 00:01:46,502 Who were you talking about? Who were you talking with? 36 00:01:46,502 --> 00:01:48,200 You did. You--You said that-- 37 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:49,853 What are you talking about? Oh, here we go. 38 00:01:49,853 --> 00:01:51,942 You said that in the airport, you said that you heard rumors 39 00:01:51,942 --> 00:01:54,293 about her husband. - What are you talking about? 40 00:01:54,293 --> 00:01:55,859 Oh, maybe I said I've heard rumors about her husband, 41 00:01:55,859 --> 00:01:57,339 but that's all I said. 42 00:01:57,339 --> 00:01:59,341 You've gone after every marriage in the group 43 00:01:59,341 --> 00:02:01,038 when meanwhile, you're the only one that's out 44 00:02:01,038 --> 00:02:03,389 spreading their legs outside of their marriage. 45 00:02:03,389 --> 00:02:05,086 I've been with my husband for almost 30 years. 46 00:02:05,086 --> 00:02:07,915 - We're done. - Okay, run away, Meredith. 47 00:02:07,915 --> 00:02:09,482 - I don't talk to people... - Don't point your finger at me. 48 00:02:09,482 --> 00:02:11,179 ...who don't speak to me with respect. 49 00:02:11,179 --> 00:02:12,746 Go shove whipped cream in her mouth. 50 00:02:12,746 --> 00:02:14,095 - You're real respectful. - Was that respectful, Meredith? 51 00:02:14,095 --> 00:02:15,705 Was that respectful? 52 00:02:15,705 --> 00:02:17,316 I have never spoken to you with disrespect. 53 00:02:17,316 --> 00:02:19,100 Learn how to speak to me with respect. 54 00:02:20,667 --> 00:02:22,930 You know what? There's no result. She runs away. 55 00:02:25,193 --> 00:02:27,456 You guys, I'm glad we all got together. 56 00:02:28,979 --> 00:02:30,155 I'm so glad. 57 00:02:34,637 --> 00:02:36,639 Girl... 58 00:02:40,077 --> 00:02:43,124 Hey, don't turn your back on me. 59 00:02:43,124 --> 00:02:45,648 I'm not done talking to you. If you're gonna spread rumors 60 00:02:45,648 --> 00:02:48,129 about my marriage, then you're gonna look me in the eye, 61 00:02:48,129 --> 00:02:50,566 and you're going to address it. 62 00:02:50,566 --> 00:02:52,307 What's going on? 63 00:02:53,917 --> 00:02:55,919 Did you like it when she spread rumors 64 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,880 about you----ing giving blowjobs for jazz tickets? 65 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:02,926 It's rumored that one of your business partners 66 00:03:02,926 --> 00:03:06,147 that has the Jazz tickets... - I don't know-- 67 00:03:06,147 --> 00:03:07,757 ...that you've been involved with. 68 00:03:07,757 --> 00:03:09,672 Who repeated that rumor? You or me? 69 00:03:09,672 --> 00:03:10,978 I didn't know it. 70 00:03:10,978 --> 00:03:14,242 You told me that she performed sexual favors! 71 00:03:14,242 --> 00:03:16,766 Make eye contact. 72 00:03:16,766 --> 00:03:18,986 Stop deflecting from your----ing----ed up marriage. 73 00:03:18,986 --> 00:03:20,161 - I don't speak with people-- - Meredith, talk to me. 74 00:03:20,161 --> 00:03:22,685 - Don't touch me. - No, I wanna-- 75 00:03:22,685 --> 00:03:23,817 - You touch me-- - Don't talk about my marriage. 76 00:03:23,817 --> 00:03:26,080 - Don't touch me. - Run away, Meredith! 77 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,343 I don't speak to people who treat me with disrespect. 78 00:03:28,343 --> 00:03:29,866 The only one who spreads their legs 79 00:03:29,866 --> 00:03:31,999 outside their marriage is you. - Not me, honey. Not me. 80 00:03:31,999 --> 00:03:33,305 - Yeah. - Talk to yours. 81 00:03:33,305 --> 00:03:34,654 - Yeah. - Deal with your marriage. 82 00:03:34,654 --> 00:03:36,221 - No, deal with yours. - Leave mine alone. 83 00:03:36,221 --> 00:03:37,787 Deal with your-- 84 00:03:37,787 --> 00:03:39,659 Learn how to speak with respect to other please. 85 00:03:39,659 --> 00:03:41,269 Respect? You're spreading lies. 86 00:03:41,269 --> 00:03:42,444 I didn't spread anything, Angie. 87 00:03:42,444 --> 00:03:43,880 You are spreading lies. 88 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:45,404 I didn't spread anything, Angie. 89 00:03:45,404 --> 00:03:46,448 You said it to multiple women in the group, Meredith. 90 00:03:46,448 --> 00:03:48,363 She spreads lies about people's marriage, 91 00:03:48,363 --> 00:03:51,105 and then she walks away. My husband is having-- 92 00:03:51,105 --> 00:03:53,847 Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. 93 00:03:53,847 --> 00:03:56,328 What is it? Monica, what just happened? 94 00:03:56,328 --> 00:03:58,243 She's gone at everybody's marriage. 95 00:03:58,243 --> 00:04:01,333 When Meredith told me there were rumors about Shawn and Angie... 96 00:04:01,333 --> 00:04:05,337 If I want to go for the jugular and talk about this sh--... 97 00:04:11,212 --> 00:04:12,822 I can go there. 98 00:04:14,389 --> 00:04:17,784 I was really hoping it was just a drunken comment, 99 00:04:17,784 --> 00:04:20,787 not something you're intending on acting on spreading. 100 00:04:20,787 --> 00:04:24,921 I just cannot believe she's doing the same thing again. 101 00:04:24,921 --> 00:04:26,488 Monica, what just happened? 102 00:04:26,488 --> 00:04:29,056 - She's full of sh-- and a liar. - Wait, wait, hold on. 103 00:04:29,056 --> 00:04:31,101 What just happened? I want to hear it from you. 104 00:04:31,101 --> 00:04:33,321 No, no, no. 105 00:04:33,321 --> 00:04:35,280 You guys, go. I'm done with them. 106 00:04:35,280 --> 00:04:38,239 What just happened? 107 00:04:38,239 --> 00:04:40,023 Whitney was like, "Let's tell Angie," 108 00:04:40,023 --> 00:04:41,634 and I'm like, let's tell her. - What was it, though? 109 00:04:41,634 --> 00:04:43,940 - That-- - What was there to tell? 110 00:04:43,940 --> 00:04:46,726 That Shawn----s men. 111 00:04:46,726 --> 00:04:48,902 No, he does not. 112 00:04:48,902 --> 00:04:51,078 That he has, like, boyfriends running around the city 113 00:04:51,078 --> 00:04:52,906 bragging about their sex. 114 00:04:52,906 --> 00:04:58,128 I can't believe I wasted another outfit on this event. 115 00:04:58,128 --> 00:05:02,089 Like, where's the food? Like, what are we eating? 116 00:05:02,089 --> 00:05:05,788 Monica, I have never heard that in my life. 117 00:05:05,788 --> 00:05:09,139 Everyone wants to pretend like they haven't heard it. 118 00:05:09,139 --> 00:05:11,490 On my kids--on my kids, 119 00:05:11,490 --> 00:05:15,537 I have never heard that in my life. 120 00:05:15,537 --> 00:05:17,844 But all of these women have heard about this, 121 00:05:17,844 --> 00:05:21,413 have talked about this, or have spread this. 122 00:05:21,413 --> 00:05:24,285 Some fake sh--. That's some Utah sh--. 123 00:05:24,285 --> 00:05:25,634 - Have you heard the rumor? - Yeah. 124 00:05:25,634 --> 00:05:27,288 - I haven't. - You haven't heard that? 125 00:05:27,288 --> 00:05:28,594 - No. - In Salt Lake, 126 00:05:28,594 --> 00:05:29,899 people always say it about male hairdressers. 127 00:05:29,899 --> 00:05:32,815 This is Utah. I've been to family reunions. 128 00:05:32,815 --> 00:05:34,948 If a guy wears a cardigan, they think he's gay. 129 00:05:34,948 --> 00:05:37,951 And as soon as she married a guy that had tapered pants 130 00:05:37,951 --> 00:05:40,388 and custom-made suits... 131 00:05:40,388 --> 00:05:43,565 the rumors started flying. 132 00:05:43,565 --> 00:05:45,611 Wait, Lisa, is there no food? 133 00:05:45,611 --> 00:05:47,526 No, there's lots of food. 134 00:05:47,526 --> 00:05:49,528 There's, um, let me see. 135 00:05:49,528 --> 00:05:52,922 Emily? Is Emily around? 136 00:05:52,922 --> 00:05:54,315 Yes. No problem. 137 00:05:54,315 --> 00:05:55,795 - Can I have it to go? - Okay. 138 00:05:55,795 --> 00:05:57,274 Perfect. 139 00:05:57,274 --> 00:05:59,233 Can you have them make her some fresh flatbread? 140 00:05:59,233 --> 00:06:00,582 Yeah. 141 00:06:00,582 --> 00:06:03,933 A fresh pizza is what we need right now. 142 00:06:08,111 --> 00:06:09,896 - Sorry. - Yeah, sorry you had anything 143 00:06:09,896 --> 00:06:11,680 to do with it. - I have a good life. 144 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,814 - I have a great marriage. - She should worry about hers. 145 00:06:14,814 --> 00:06:16,119 Yeah. 146 00:06:16,119 --> 00:06:18,470 Love you. Love you. I'm sorry. 147 00:06:21,298 --> 00:06:22,822 Okay, thank you. 148 00:06:22,822 --> 00:06:26,303 You couldn't have put it in the box yourself? 149 00:06:26,303 --> 00:06:27,827 For customer service? 150 00:06:29,219 --> 00:06:30,395 Uh-huh. 151 00:06:30,395 --> 00:06:31,961 No, you're lazy. 152 00:06:31,961 --> 00:06:35,138 I feel so sorry for you that you're so miserable. 153 00:06:35,138 --> 00:06:36,531 I'm sorry for you, honey. 154 00:06:38,881 --> 00:06:40,753 Good Lord, girl. 155 00:06:40,753 --> 00:06:42,189 Bye. I'll talk to you soon. 156 00:06:42,189 --> 00:06:44,757 Bye, ladies. 157 00:06:44,757 --> 00:06:46,976 Crazy way to end things. 158 00:06:46,976 --> 00:06:49,631 There's something wrong with her, Lisa. 159 00:06:49,631 --> 00:06:52,155 She has a-a weird thing with me. 160 00:06:52,155 --> 00:06:54,375 I don't know what it is, and it's not my problem, 161 00:06:54,375 --> 00:06:55,985 and I'm not interested. 162 00:06:55,985 --> 00:06:57,857 It's crazy. 163 00:06:57,857 --> 00:06:59,424 All I know right now is I need to take a moment 164 00:06:59,424 --> 00:07:02,514 and think about how we move forward together as friends. 165 00:07:02,514 --> 00:07:03,993 You know, like, I can't believe 166 00:07:03,993 --> 00:07:05,995 that Meredith is playing victim right now. 167 00:07:05,995 --> 00:07:11,261 Like, the real victim in this situation is Angie 168 00:07:11,261 --> 00:07:13,394 ...and me. It's my party. 169 00:07:13,394 --> 00:07:16,528 Thank you. Be safe going home. Thanks for bringing Kathy. 170 00:07:37,636 --> 00:07:40,639 I was raised that family is number one. 171 00:07:40,639 --> 00:07:45,208 It's the ultimate, and my family is my whole world. 172 00:07:45,208 --> 00:07:48,908 And I'm lost without Shawn and Elektra. 173 00:07:48,908 --> 00:07:52,085 And for somebody to attack that or question that 174 00:07:52,085 --> 00:07:56,916 could really devastate my family. 175 00:07:56,916 --> 00:07:59,701 - Oh, my God. Coffee. - Here you go. 176 00:07:59,701 --> 00:08:01,573 I didn't sleep well last night. 177 00:08:04,227 --> 00:08:06,795 Are you okay? 178 00:08:06,795 --> 00:08:10,756 So many crazy things went on last night that 179 00:08:10,756 --> 00:08:13,236 it's like I-I haven't even been able 180 00:08:13,236 --> 00:08:15,761 to wrap my head around it all. 181 00:08:15,761 --> 00:08:19,112 There was some weird things that came up, 182 00:08:19,112 --> 00:08:20,896 and I didn't wanna say anything before bed 183 00:08:20,896 --> 00:08:23,159 because I was wiped out when I came home. 184 00:08:25,945 --> 00:08:31,559 But I was a little shocked at some things that, um, 185 00:08:31,559 --> 00:08:34,475 Meredith was saying. 186 00:08:34,475 --> 00:08:37,391 She started eluding to the fact that 187 00:08:37,391 --> 00:08:41,438 she could destroy our family and that you actually, um... 188 00:08:41,438 --> 00:08:42,962 like men. 189 00:08:45,007 --> 00:08:49,272 Or, you know, you are hooking up with men on the side. 190 00:08:53,189 --> 00:08:55,191 What a----ing idiot. 191 00:08:55,191 --> 00:08:58,325 That's been a thing for you 192 00:08:58,325 --> 00:09:02,416 that you've had to listen to for 30 years, you know? 193 00:09:02,416 --> 00:09:03,548 - Yeah. - You're a hairdresser, 194 00:09:03,548 --> 00:09:04,940 so you're automatically gay. 195 00:09:04,940 --> 00:09:07,639 The bottom line is, is gay, straight, whatever, 196 00:09:07,639 --> 00:09:09,989 it's the adultery part of it that's bad. 197 00:09:09,989 --> 00:09:12,513 I mean, I know I don't have to explain this sh-- to you. 198 00:09:12,513 --> 00:09:14,341 - No, I, uh, listen-- - You know, it-- 199 00:09:14,341 --> 00:09:18,040 it's--it's crazy. It's nuts. It's a smear campaign. 200 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,870 And to what end is this woman willing to go to? 201 00:09:21,870 --> 00:09:25,091 - What did we do? - Don't let this bother you. 202 00:09:25,091 --> 00:09:29,704 Okay? Because I stood up for my family, 203 00:09:29,704 --> 00:09:31,837 and I stood up for... - Well--okay-- 204 00:09:31,837 --> 00:09:35,623 ...and for our marriage and for our family unit. 205 00:09:37,451 --> 00:09:39,279 I don't... 206 00:09:42,587 --> 00:09:46,547 Shawn, she's a miserable bitch. Don't let her get to you. 207 00:09:52,161 --> 00:09:54,816 You know, Elektra's gonna hear about this, 208 00:09:54,816 --> 00:10:02,084 and it kills me to think... 209 00:10:02,084 --> 00:10:04,783 that she would ever think that I would do something like this. 210 00:10:04,783 --> 00:10:07,046 She's not gonna think that. 211 00:10:07,046 --> 00:10:09,875 And, you know, she knows who her mom and dad are. 212 00:10:09,875 --> 00:10:14,401 I've been working my ass off... 213 00:10:14,401 --> 00:10:15,794 to be her hero. 214 00:10:15,794 --> 00:10:18,840 But you are, and the way that you handle this 215 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:20,102 is gonna show her. 216 00:10:20,102 --> 00:10:23,105 She's gonna admire you even more. 217 00:10:24,977 --> 00:10:28,720 You know, it's very dangerous to make accusations of infidelity 218 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,287 in the Greek community 219 00:10:31,287 --> 00:10:33,725 because we are practicing Orthodox. 220 00:10:33,725 --> 00:10:35,248 We got married in the Greek Orthodox Church 221 00:10:35,248 --> 00:10:36,945 24 years ago, 222 00:10:36,945 --> 00:10:41,080 and infidelity is against our religion. 223 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,691 Shawn and I might have our problems, 224 00:10:43,691 --> 00:10:47,260 but being under attack, we are a united front no matter what. 225 00:10:47,260 --> 00:10:50,393 You know, if somebody comes for my family, my character, 226 00:10:50,393 --> 00:10:51,960 they're not welcome here anymore. 227 00:10:53,135 --> 00:10:54,746 She's not welcome in this home. 228 00:10:54,746 --> 00:10:56,312 I don't wanna be around her at all. 229 00:11:14,722 --> 00:11:16,115 Rise and shine. 230 00:11:16,115 --> 00:11:17,856 How are you? 231 00:11:17,856 --> 00:11:19,466 Good. 232 00:11:19,466 --> 00:11:20,554 Jadey-bug. 233 00:11:25,690 --> 00:11:28,475 Jadey-bug. Okay, start waking up, okay? 234 00:11:28,475 --> 00:11:30,085 I'm gonna start making breakfast, 235 00:11:30,085 --> 00:11:31,260 but don't go back to sleep. 236 00:11:35,656 --> 00:11:37,397 Okay, we're all getting up. Okay? 237 00:11:37,397 --> 00:11:40,748 Are you tired, too? 238 00:11:40,748 --> 00:11:42,532 You look like you're still asleep. 239 00:11:43,403 --> 00:11:46,406 ♪ Rise and shine 240 00:11:46,406 --> 00:11:49,757 As a single mom, my life consists of running 241 00:11:49,757 --> 00:11:53,021 my kids everywhere, all day, every day. 242 00:11:53,021 --> 00:11:55,067 I mean, four different schedules, 243 00:11:55,067 --> 00:11:57,373 literally four different schools. 244 00:11:57,373 --> 00:11:59,636 This one likes football. This one likes gymnastics. 245 00:11:59,636 --> 00:12:02,378 This one likes art. You know what I would like? 246 00:12:04,076 --> 00:12:05,251 Oh, my God. 247 00:12:05,251 --> 00:12:07,644 Five hours of extra sleep. 248 00:12:13,912 --> 00:12:17,567 West, what are you doing? 249 00:12:17,567 --> 00:12:20,832 - Oh, good, you found your shoes. - They were right next to my-- 250 00:12:20,832 --> 00:12:22,529 What's wrong with this one? What the heck happened? 251 00:12:22,529 --> 00:12:24,139 - I know. - Did Chap chew that? 252 00:12:24,139 --> 00:12:26,838 - Probably. - Chap. 253 00:12:26,838 --> 00:12:30,580 My childhood was very different from my kids'. 254 00:12:30,580 --> 00:12:33,801 Growing up, we moved around so much 255 00:12:33,801 --> 00:12:36,369 because my mom was always looking 256 00:12:36,369 --> 00:12:38,806 for something bigger and better. 257 00:12:38,806 --> 00:12:42,027 A lot of times, that was at my expense. 258 00:12:42,027 --> 00:12:44,290 Cocoa bean! 259 00:12:44,290 --> 00:12:47,684 Good morning! 260 00:12:47,684 --> 00:12:49,948 I think there is some resentment there for that. 261 00:12:49,948 --> 00:12:51,384 You guys have your backpacks? 262 00:12:51,384 --> 00:12:53,516 Let's go. Jade, we're gonna leave without you, girl. 263 00:12:53,516 --> 00:12:56,041 No! 264 00:12:56,041 --> 00:12:59,218 I've always been searching for stability, 265 00:12:59,218 --> 00:13:01,829 because I never had that. 266 00:13:01,829 --> 00:13:04,963 The only thing that I can count on with my mom 267 00:13:04,963 --> 00:13:09,271 is that there's nothing to count on with my mom. 268 00:13:09,271 --> 00:13:12,492 Who the freak's socks are out here? 269 00:13:12,492 --> 00:13:15,669 Whose socks are in the yard? 270 00:13:15,669 --> 00:13:18,628 I know I'm not a perfect mom, but I also know that my children 271 00:13:18,628 --> 00:13:20,195 will always be provided for, 272 00:13:20,195 --> 00:13:21,893 and they will always have the essentials. 273 00:13:23,677 --> 00:13:24,721 Mm-hmm. 274 00:13:27,594 --> 00:13:30,640 Did you have so much fun? 275 00:13:33,774 --> 00:13:36,690 Was that before or after you said the "B" word, Westley? 276 00:13:40,912 --> 00:13:42,217 An accident? 277 00:13:45,003 --> 00:13:46,482 Boner?! 278 00:13:46,482 --> 00:13:49,659 - Okay. Wow. - Where did you learn that word? 279 00:13:53,881 --> 00:13:56,753 -"Boner" is a bad word. - What? 280 00:14:06,589 --> 00:14:09,201 - Did you just trip up the curb? - No, I slipped. 281 00:14:09,201 --> 00:14:11,290 There's secret ice. 282 00:14:11,290 --> 00:14:12,769 Yeah. Stay away from that secret ice. 283 00:14:12,769 --> 00:14:15,642 - Oh, here. - Thanks, Jack. 284 00:14:15,642 --> 00:14:17,383 Welcome to M. Vincé Nail Spa. How are you doing today? 285 00:14:17,383 --> 00:14:18,950 - How are you? Good, good. - Good, good. 286 00:14:18,950 --> 00:14:20,908 - Did we have appointment today? - We do, for two. 287 00:14:20,908 --> 00:14:22,736 Okay. Yeah. Go ahead and just get signed in for me real quick. 288 00:14:22,736 --> 00:14:25,347 Okay, thank you. - And we'll get started here. 289 00:14:26,827 --> 00:14:28,176 Let me have you-- let's sit here. 290 00:14:28,176 --> 00:14:29,482 - Thank you. - And you can go there. 291 00:14:29,482 --> 00:14:31,223 - Awesome. - How are you? 292 00:14:31,223 --> 00:14:34,704 Fine. 293 00:14:34,704 --> 00:14:36,793 Oh, my gosh. I love that the water's hot. 294 00:14:38,795 --> 00:14:41,929 Um, okay, so what's going on for prom? 295 00:14:41,929 --> 00:14:46,368 Uh, just asked a very beautiful young lady last night. 296 00:14:46,368 --> 00:14:47,326 She said yes? 297 00:14:47,326 --> 00:14:48,588 Yeah. 298 00:14:48,588 --> 00:14:50,982 - Are you excited? - Yeah, I'm so pumped. 299 00:14:50,982 --> 00:14:52,635 Does she know you're going on a mission? 300 00:14:54,463 --> 00:14:56,465 You know, a lot of people here 301 00:14:56,465 --> 00:14:59,207 pay their kids to go on mission or blackmail 'em 302 00:14:59,207 --> 00:15:01,644 or say, like, "Go, or you're gonna embarrass the family." 303 00:15:01,644 --> 00:15:04,386 Like, there's social pressures in Utah, 304 00:15:04,386 --> 00:15:07,128 but Jack has been raised non-orthodox, 305 00:15:07,128 --> 00:15:09,696 and so I'm still, like, processing everything. 306 00:15:09,696 --> 00:15:13,134 Like, the fact that I'm not gonna have my son for two years 307 00:15:13,134 --> 00:15:15,571 is, like, a lot for a mom. 308 00:15:15,571 --> 00:15:17,008 Every single second with him, 309 00:15:17,008 --> 00:15:20,098 I just want it to be, like, the best second with him. 310 00:15:20,098 --> 00:15:22,361 And it's a good thing. He's big into men's grooming. 311 00:15:22,361 --> 00:15:24,754 Like... it's a bonus. 312 00:15:24,754 --> 00:15:27,757 Um, in my friend group, everyone was like, shocked. 313 00:15:27,757 --> 00:15:30,847 And with Heather, she asked me some questions, like, 314 00:15:30,847 --> 00:15:32,937 "Does he know it's gonna be hard?" 315 00:15:32,937 --> 00:15:34,460 - Yeah. - And I'm like, "Yeah, Heather. 316 00:15:34,460 --> 00:15:35,765 He's like, good." I just couldn't get 317 00:15:35,765 --> 00:15:37,202 where she was going with it. 318 00:15:37,202 --> 00:15:39,291 Whitney told me that Jack's going on a mission. 319 00:15:39,291 --> 00:15:40,901 Yeah. 320 00:15:40,901 --> 00:15:43,730 If you could choose for him, would you tell him to go or not? 321 00:15:43,730 --> 00:15:45,950 Heather, we have to table this for another day. 322 00:15:47,299 --> 00:15:48,996 Like, it's really none of her business. 323 00:15:48,996 --> 00:15:51,607 It's not like he's doing anything bad. 324 00:15:51,607 --> 00:15:53,522 I mean, he chose to serve a mission instead of, 325 00:15:53,522 --> 00:15:57,222 like, meth or, like, teenage pregnancies. 326 00:15:57,222 --> 00:16:01,835 I feel like you've made the appropriate steps, 327 00:16:01,835 --> 00:16:04,011 um, to, like, be prepared for this. 328 00:16:04,011 --> 00:16:07,101 What about the Book of Mormon? Have you read that? 329 00:16:07,101 --> 00:16:10,191 - Yeah, I'm reading it right now. - What do you think of it? 330 00:16:10,191 --> 00:16:11,932 - Very action packed. - Really? 331 00:16:11,932 --> 00:16:14,456 - Yep. - That's interesting. 332 00:16:14,456 --> 00:16:16,197 No, I have not read the Book of Mormon, 333 00:16:16,197 --> 00:16:17,851 but based on the things 334 00:16:17,851 --> 00:16:19,548 I'm hearing about this book, I kind of want to read it. 335 00:16:19,548 --> 00:16:22,116 You can turn into a movie, and it'd, like, be good. 336 00:16:22,116 --> 00:16:26,033 I'm, like, shocked that Jack is reading it before me. 337 00:16:26,033 --> 00:16:27,904 I am an avid reader. 338 00:16:29,341 --> 00:16:31,343 Heather asked me if you've gone through the temple yet. 339 00:16:31,343 --> 00:16:32,953 And I'm like, "Not yet." 340 00:16:32,953 --> 00:16:34,650 She goes, "Are you or John gonna go?" 341 00:16:34,650 --> 00:16:37,436 And I'm like, "Definitely John." I'm like, "I just have to think 342 00:16:37,436 --> 00:16:38,915 about, like, what's right for Jack." 343 00:16:38,915 --> 00:16:42,441 Going to the temple is like, next level commitment, 344 00:16:42,441 --> 00:16:45,922 and, you know, like, you're gonna have to wear garments. 345 00:16:45,922 --> 00:16:47,707 - And I respect the garments. - The G's. 346 00:16:47,707 --> 00:16:50,362 And so, and you know, I don't do that. 347 00:16:50,362 --> 00:16:52,146 I go to church every Sunday. 348 00:16:52,146 --> 00:16:54,844 The difference is the pretty buildings, the temples, 349 00:16:54,844 --> 00:16:56,759 you have to be worthy to go in them. 350 00:16:56,759 --> 00:16:58,457 But your dad 100% will be in there with you. 351 00:16:58,457 --> 00:17:00,328 - Yeah. - Do you know what I mean? 352 00:17:00,328 --> 00:17:02,069 Yep. 353 00:17:02,069 --> 00:17:03,766 Like, I might not feel worthy because 354 00:17:03,766 --> 00:17:06,117 I drink too much Diet Coke. 355 00:17:06,117 --> 00:17:07,770 Someone might not be-- feel worthy because 356 00:17:07,770 --> 00:17:09,207 they drink too much alcohol. 357 00:17:09,207 --> 00:17:11,035 Like, someone might not be worthy because 358 00:17:11,035 --> 00:17:12,601 they're hitting it with their neighbor. 359 00:17:12,601 --> 00:17:15,213 I mean, there's lots of reasons you don't go. 360 00:17:15,213 --> 00:17:17,128 It's not like I'm doing anything wrong, Jack, 361 00:17:17,128 --> 00:17:18,651 but I could do more right. 362 00:17:18,651 --> 00:17:21,132 Like, there's been a night that I don't go to bed, 363 00:17:21,132 --> 00:17:24,048 like, thinking, like, was I a good enough mom today? 364 00:17:24,048 --> 00:17:28,052 Clearly I'm a great mom if you made this decision. 365 00:17:28,052 --> 00:17:30,184 No, the decision was all me, though. 366 00:17:30,184 --> 00:17:32,099 That's why I didn't tell you. 367 00:17:32,099 --> 00:17:34,319 I know. 368 00:17:34,319 --> 00:17:36,538 I'm excited. 369 00:17:36,538 --> 00:17:39,019 I'm excited for you. I love you. 370 00:17:39,019 --> 00:17:42,327 - Love you. - I love you so much. 371 00:17:42,327 --> 00:17:44,111 - My little bestie. - Yep. 372 00:17:45,460 --> 00:17:46,766 Coming up... 373 00:17:46,766 --> 00:17:48,028 I think Heather finally 374 00:17:48,028 --> 00:17:50,248 is willing to try and learn to trust me. 375 00:17:50,248 --> 00:17:54,991 She has never given me that. This is----ing bullsh--. 376 00:17:54,991 --> 00:17:57,081 ♪. 377 00:18:15,708 --> 00:18:18,624 Hey, Ange. 378 00:18:18,624 --> 00:18:20,104 - Hello. - Hey! 379 00:18:20,104 --> 00:18:22,193 Oh, my gosh, you guys. 380 00:18:22,193 --> 00:18:24,195 I love coming to a Greek's house 'cause I know I'm gonna eat. 381 00:18:24,195 --> 00:18:26,066 You're gonna eat with me. 382 00:18:26,066 --> 00:18:26,893 Aw, it's so good to see you guys. 383 00:18:26,893 --> 00:18:28,503 We brought you something. 384 00:18:28,503 --> 00:18:31,115 Yeah. We brought you all the necessary things. 385 00:18:31,115 --> 00:18:33,291 Wow. Thank you. Come on in. Can I take your purses? 386 00:18:33,291 --> 00:18:34,727 Is Shawn here? 387 00:18:34,727 --> 00:18:36,163 He just took a Elektra to horseback riding lessons. 388 00:18:36,163 --> 00:18:37,904 - Oh, he did? - Yeah. Uh-huh. 389 00:18:37,904 --> 00:18:40,863 Oh, my gosh. I love this. All my favorite things. 390 00:18:40,863 --> 00:18:42,343 - Help yourselves. - Do you have Diet Coke? 391 00:18:42,343 --> 00:18:44,215 - Oh, Lord. - It's okay if you don't. 392 00:18:44,215 --> 00:18:45,825 I can grab one on my way home. 393 00:18:45,825 --> 00:18:49,089 She probably has one in her car. In fact, I did. I saw a cup. 394 00:18:49,089 --> 00:18:51,396 On a normal day, I would have grabbed you some. 395 00:18:51,396 --> 00:18:52,832 No, no, no. It's good. 396 00:18:52,832 --> 00:18:54,529 I'm, like, uh, you know, little sleep-deprived. 397 00:18:54,529 --> 00:18:56,401 How are you feeling? 398 00:18:56,401 --> 00:18:58,664 Guys... I'm still processing. 399 00:18:58,664 --> 00:19:03,190 I mean, I feel like I'm half asleep right now. 400 00:19:03,190 --> 00:19:05,758 Do you guys want to sit down, and I'll bring this over? 401 00:19:05,758 --> 00:19:07,368 Yeah, no, we can sit down. 402 00:19:07,368 --> 00:19:10,110 I am definitely worried about Angie. 403 00:19:10,110 --> 00:19:11,633 I know what it feels like. I went through this. 404 00:19:11,633 --> 00:19:14,288 I mean, I wish someone had checked in on me last year. 405 00:19:14,288 --> 00:19:17,161 Instead, I had to go to bed eating a burrito. 406 00:19:17,161 --> 00:19:19,250 I'm so grateful that you guys are here. 407 00:19:19,250 --> 00:19:20,773 I just keep looking at you, and it's like this 408 00:19:20,773 --> 00:19:23,602 sort of sense of relief because this has been hard... 409 00:19:23,602 --> 00:19:25,169 - Oh, my God. - ...to put a smile on my face 410 00:19:25,169 --> 00:19:26,996 in front of my daughter 411 00:19:26,996 --> 00:19:29,564 and talk to Shawn this morning about it. 412 00:19:29,564 --> 00:19:32,176 I just--I told him. 413 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,267 - He cried. - Oh, my God. 414 00:19:36,267 --> 00:19:38,007 Because now there's a little person involved. 415 00:19:38,007 --> 00:19:41,185 You know, I--to see him like that just crushed me. 416 00:19:41,185 --> 00:19:42,621 - It's the worst. - It's-- 417 00:19:42,621 --> 00:19:45,972 But because of the impact it's gonna have on Elektra. 418 00:19:45,972 --> 00:19:48,801 She's gonna hear this, and it's out there. 419 00:19:48,801 --> 00:19:50,716 How is this gonna affect my daughter? 420 00:19:50,716 --> 00:19:52,935 Mm-hmm. 421 00:19:52,935 --> 00:19:57,331 But he's like, "I've been working so hard 422 00:19:57,331 --> 00:20:01,509 to be her hero and, like, everything that I've worked for, 423 00:20:01,509 --> 00:20:03,990 and I would never want her to think 424 00:20:03,990 --> 00:20:05,905 that I would do that to our family. 425 00:20:05,905 --> 00:20:11,998 Ange, I was just in your shoes. No one believes this bullsh--. 426 00:20:11,998 --> 00:20:13,173 You and Shawn are like me and John. 427 00:20:13,173 --> 00:20:14,522 We work together. We do everything. 428 00:20:14,522 --> 00:20:15,697 - We're family. - We are inseparable, 429 00:20:15,697 --> 00:20:17,308 the three of us. - Yeah. 430 00:20:17,308 --> 00:20:18,570 We know where your husband sleeps. 431 00:20:18,570 --> 00:20:20,006 He sleeps in your bed with Elektra. 432 00:20:20,006 --> 00:20:23,009 - Every night. - Yes. 433 00:20:23,009 --> 00:20:24,706 We all go to bed at the same time. 434 00:20:24,706 --> 00:20:26,273 And last night, 435 00:20:26,273 --> 00:20:27,709 when we went to bed, she, like, grabbed and held my hand, 436 00:20:27,709 --> 00:20:30,538 and I fell asleep with her little hand in mine. 437 00:20:30,538 --> 00:20:33,280 And I just thought, you know, this is what matters. 438 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,108 And the biggest thing here 439 00:20:35,108 --> 00:20:37,371 is how am I going to navigate this in front of her? 440 00:20:37,371 --> 00:20:39,112 I'm in a weird position because 441 00:20:39,112 --> 00:20:41,549 I'm trying to build a friendship back with Meredith, 442 00:20:41,549 --> 00:20:45,031 but, like, in my head, I'm like, no, no, no, no, 443 00:20:45,031 --> 00:20:48,513 pump the brakes, because how do I stay silent 444 00:20:48,513 --> 00:20:52,125 when she's, like, literally the exact same thing 445 00:20:52,125 --> 00:20:54,214 doing to you what she did to me. 446 00:20:54,214 --> 00:20:56,477 It's literally a formula, 447 00:20:56,477 --> 00:20:58,871 and you just--it's like, take Lisa's name out, 448 00:20:58,871 --> 00:21:00,089 insert Angie's. 449 00:21:00,089 --> 00:21:02,788 My advice is do not feed into Meredith. 450 00:21:02,788 --> 00:21:04,268 You did nothing wrong. 451 00:21:04,268 --> 00:21:05,225 Learn from my experience last year... 452 00:21:05,225 --> 00:21:06,574 - Well... - In mind, in mind. 453 00:21:06,574 --> 00:21:08,707 I wish I would have just been like, stop, move on. 454 00:21:08,707 --> 00:21:11,231 - She is not worth it. - No. 455 00:21:11,231 --> 00:21:13,712 Why is Monica saying so much, though? 456 00:21:15,409 --> 00:21:20,196 I honestly felt like Monica, like, she had heard the rumor 457 00:21:20,196 --> 00:21:22,155 and she was like, "I wanna be a good friend to Angie," 458 00:21:22,155 --> 00:21:23,809 like, in the moment. 459 00:21:23,809 --> 00:21:27,378 She----ing makes up stuff just like that Snoop Dogg plane ride. 460 00:21:29,597 --> 00:21:32,426 I know, but the point-- like, I think that, 461 00:21:32,426 --> 00:21:35,168 yes, you and Monica had an interesting time 462 00:21:35,168 --> 00:21:37,736 in Palm Springs, and there was that whole thing. 463 00:21:37,736 --> 00:21:41,261 But I-I think it is important to remember 464 00:21:41,261 --> 00:21:43,045 that she had the courage to tell you. 465 00:21:43,045 --> 00:21:45,047 Like, she was being a good friend to you. 466 00:21:45,047 --> 00:21:46,614 Well, I'm grateful you both sat me down. 467 00:21:46,614 --> 00:21:48,137 I-I am. 468 00:21:48,137 --> 00:21:50,139 Monica's not the one to be blamed for this 469 00:21:50,139 --> 00:21:53,360 just because she said what the rumor was. 470 00:21:53,360 --> 00:21:56,494 She's Meredith's decoy, and I just can't believe that 471 00:21:56,494 --> 00:21:58,583 Lisa is really, like, falling for it, too. 472 00:21:58,583 --> 00:22:03,370 Like, Meredith is the one who started this. 473 00:22:03,370 --> 00:22:05,241 It was a rough one, and I could not have gotten through-- 474 00:22:05,241 --> 00:22:06,765 - Well, you're doing so well. - You know what, Angie-- 475 00:22:06,765 --> 00:22:09,071 Like, you're--I honestly thought we were gonna come over 476 00:22:09,071 --> 00:22:10,421 to a different situation. - Yeah, you were so tough. 477 00:22:10,421 --> 00:22:12,553 You were so tough yesterday, too. Like, yeah. 478 00:22:12,553 --> 00:22:14,120 You're strong. You're a badass. 479 00:22:14,120 --> 00:22:16,296 Well, thank you. I do have to ask, 480 00:22:16,296 --> 00:22:18,994 how do you feel about Heather after yesterday? 481 00:22:18,994 --> 00:22:20,692 So, you know, I told her, I'm like, 482 00:22:20,692 --> 00:22:22,781 "You're the last one to know, but Jack's going on a mission." 483 00:22:22,781 --> 00:22:26,262 And you know, I'm like, "This is a positive experience for Jack." 484 00:22:26,262 --> 00:22:28,439 I don't need to argue it with Heather. 485 00:22:28,439 --> 00:22:30,354 I want you to know, after Palm Springs, 486 00:22:30,354 --> 00:22:33,313 I've seen a different side of Heather, 487 00:22:33,313 --> 00:22:37,099 and... she invited me to her house. 488 00:22:40,494 --> 00:22:45,978 You said a lot of mean, horrible things to me about my life. 489 00:22:45,978 --> 00:22:47,588 And I'm sorry. 490 00:22:47,588 --> 00:22:51,331 Look, you've seen I get hot and say things, and I apologize. 491 00:22:51,331 --> 00:22:53,420 I have to say I had mad respect for you. 492 00:22:53,420 --> 00:22:56,205 Like, I don't think I could have survived that trip 493 00:22:56,205 --> 00:22:59,339 the way you did, And I wanna apologize 494 00:22:59,339 --> 00:23:02,342 that I didn't show up for you at all. I'm really sorry. 495 00:23:02,342 --> 00:23:04,605 Well, the fact that you are acknowledging that 496 00:23:04,605 --> 00:23:06,259 means the world to me. 497 00:23:06,259 --> 00:23:09,044 It gives me a glimmer of hope that you and I can move forward. 498 00:23:09,044 --> 00:23:12,483 And look, I was... honored, 499 00:23:12,483 --> 00:23:14,223 actually, that she invited me into her home 500 00:23:14,223 --> 00:23:16,835 because I've known her since I was 15, 501 00:23:16,835 --> 00:23:19,098 and I don't like the tension. 502 00:23:19,098 --> 00:23:20,360 Mm-hmm. 503 00:23:20,360 --> 00:23:22,362 I think Heather finally opened up to me, 504 00:23:22,362 --> 00:23:24,582 and she said that in Palm Springs, 505 00:23:24,582 --> 00:23:28,368 she really felt bad that she sat back 506 00:23:28,368 --> 00:23:32,546 while I was... taking all that sh--. 507 00:23:32,546 --> 00:23:35,157 I think because it felt layered on, and she sat-- 508 00:23:35,157 --> 00:23:36,942 you know, she was part of it. - No, the layers are never good. 509 00:23:36,942 --> 00:23:38,683 She was part of it. 510 00:23:38,683 --> 00:23:40,859 I think she started to feel really guilty about it. 511 00:23:40,859 --> 00:23:42,121 - Mm-hmm. - Good. 512 00:23:42,121 --> 00:23:43,818 Yeah, it was layered. It was layered. 513 00:23:43,818 --> 00:23:45,167 Oh, I know what it feels like to be layered on, trust me. 514 00:23:45,167 --> 00:23:46,865 I know you do. I've seen it. 515 00:23:46,865 --> 00:23:49,911 I don't know. She was, like, really receptive. 516 00:23:49,911 --> 00:23:53,698 She was kind and that she said, "You took a lot of sh--. 517 00:23:53,698 --> 00:23:55,047 You have a lot of grit." 518 00:23:55,047 --> 00:23:56,875 Oh, my gosh. You're lucky she gave that to you. 519 00:23:56,875 --> 00:23:58,529 - She's never done that with me. - Well, and, look-- 520 00:23:58,529 --> 00:24:01,445 No, for real. Like, a lot's going through my mind right now. 521 00:24:01,445 --> 00:24:03,055 - And it-- - Because I'm like, 522 00:24:03,055 --> 00:24:05,623 I'm happy for you, but she has never given me that, 523 00:24:05,623 --> 00:24:07,973 like, ever, Ange. Ever. - Lisa, it's given me a lot-- 524 00:24:07,973 --> 00:24:09,583 It's--It's taken me a long time to get there. 525 00:24:09,583 --> 00:24:12,499 And I have mixed feelings about it. 526 00:24:12,499 --> 00:24:15,067 I am literally getting triggered by this because I'm like, 527 00:24:15,067 --> 00:24:17,461 where was this friendship last year? 528 00:24:17,461 --> 00:24:20,551 Like, this is----ing bullsh--. 529 00:24:20,551 --> 00:24:23,684 ♪. 530 00:24:28,907 --> 00:24:32,171 Like, the amount of crap I have gone through 531 00:24:32,171 --> 00:24:34,042 and that she has seen me gone through, 532 00:24:34,042 --> 00:24:37,698 like, I've had to put my hurt aside with a lot of things. 533 00:24:37,698 --> 00:24:39,744 I know. - And for me, I'm like, 534 00:24:39,744 --> 00:24:42,137 you know what? Last year, Heather, if you even 535 00:24:42,137 --> 00:24:45,140 cared a 10th about me, you would have come to me 536 00:24:45,140 --> 00:24:47,795 and said to me, like, "Hey, guess what? You took a beating. 537 00:24:47,795 --> 00:24:50,232 I saw you just getting brutalized, 538 00:24:50,232 --> 00:24:52,626 and I feel bad about it." 539 00:24:52,626 --> 00:24:54,802 It is so upsetting to me 540 00:24:54,802 --> 00:24:57,979 because where are my accolades for putting up with people 541 00:24:57,979 --> 00:25:01,200 talking about my family, my business, me behind my back? 542 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,595 It's like, Angie, you had a bad weekend in Palm Springs. 543 00:25:04,595 --> 00:25:07,075 I had to endure it for three----ing years. 544 00:25:07,075 --> 00:25:09,034 Listen, Angie, you just went through sh-- yesterday. 545 00:25:09,034 --> 00:25:10,862 Like, literally, this is not about me, 546 00:25:10,862 --> 00:25:14,430 but I have had literally what you had times 10, Ange. 547 00:25:14,430 --> 00:25:16,215 I know. I know. - I know this----ing sucks, 548 00:25:16,215 --> 00:25:17,564 and it's so raw. - It does. 549 00:25:17,564 --> 00:25:19,087 But it came, and it wouldn't stop. 550 00:25:19,087 --> 00:25:20,480 I know. 551 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,351 Somebody told Henry last week that they're like, 552 00:25:22,351 --> 00:25:24,615 "Oh, there's naked pictures of your mom online." 553 00:25:24,615 --> 00:25:26,355 Henry lost his mind. 554 00:25:26,355 --> 00:25:29,010 He called me hysterically crying. He's in fifth grade. 555 00:25:29,010 --> 00:25:31,752 And because of all this other stupid stuff, 556 00:25:31,752 --> 00:25:33,232 it made him think for a minute, like, 557 00:25:33,232 --> 00:25:35,234 "Maybe there is that about my mom." 558 00:25:35,234 --> 00:25:36,757 I get it, Lisa. 559 00:25:36,757 --> 00:25:40,369 Lisa's reaction is very shocking to me. 560 00:25:40,369 --> 00:25:43,851 Like, I had no idea that she was harboring so many feelings 561 00:25:43,851 --> 00:25:47,202 from last year, but, like, Lisa, read the room. 562 00:25:47,202 --> 00:25:49,074 The timing is not right. 563 00:25:49,074 --> 00:25:52,033 Like, we came over here to make Angie feel better. 564 00:25:52,033 --> 00:25:53,992 I had the sh-- kicked out of me emotionally, 565 00:25:53,992 --> 00:25:55,863 and I was just, like, it all because 566 00:25:55,863 --> 00:25:57,909 no one's there for me for a time, 567 00:25:57,909 --> 00:25:59,606 and I'm just like, whatever. 568 00:25:59,606 --> 00:26:01,913 Is it hard to sit here and hear that she got invited over, 569 00:26:01,913 --> 00:26:04,045 got an apology... - You--You got an apology. 570 00:26:04,045 --> 00:26:05,699 - ...and you never did? -"Oh, I wanna get to know you"? 571 00:26:05,699 --> 00:26:07,875 I have never gotten that from Heather. 572 00:26:07,875 --> 00:26:10,748 I like myself too much. Like, I like who I am. 573 00:26:10,748 --> 00:26:13,446 I like myself too much to even deal with this. 574 00:26:13,446 --> 00:26:15,535 I'm good with you guys. That's all I----ing care about. 575 00:26:15,535 --> 00:26:17,711 Everybody else-- we'll figure it out. 576 00:26:37,339 --> 00:26:41,430 It's been a little bit of a rough few days. 577 00:26:41,430 --> 00:26:44,956 After my friend Kathy and I left Lisa's party... 578 00:26:44,956 --> 00:26:46,261 She's not my problem. 579 00:26:46,261 --> 00:26:47,611 She's her own problem. 580 00:26:47,611 --> 00:26:49,264 We got in the car, 581 00:26:49,264 --> 00:26:52,616 and we're driving for about 15 minutes or so 582 00:26:52,616 --> 00:26:55,662 in a terrible, terrible snowstorm. 583 00:26:55,662 --> 00:26:58,709 And our driver lost control of the car. 584 00:27:00,928 --> 00:27:03,627 On one side of the road was the cliff, 585 00:27:03,627 --> 00:27:05,585 and the other side was a snowbank. 586 00:27:05,585 --> 00:27:07,065 And it appeared 587 00:27:07,065 --> 00:27:10,372 that we were going to go over the cliff. 588 00:27:11,635 --> 00:27:13,593 And he somehow gained enough control 589 00:27:13,593 --> 00:27:15,769 to steer us into the snowbank. 590 00:27:15,769 --> 00:27:19,947 It was... terrifying. 591 00:27:19,947 --> 00:27:23,168 I thought I was dying. 592 00:27:23,168 --> 00:27:26,737 I thought my last interactions of significance 593 00:27:26,737 --> 00:27:28,695 were what just happened at Lisa's party 594 00:27:28,695 --> 00:27:31,263 that was just ugly and mean. 595 00:27:31,263 --> 00:27:34,527 And I decided I really wanna spend my time 596 00:27:34,527 --> 00:27:37,225 with the people that I care about the most, 597 00:27:37,225 --> 00:27:40,489 because we never know when it's ending. 598 00:27:42,013 --> 00:27:45,451 I'm like, I'm--I'm... Yeah. 599 00:27:46,757 --> 00:27:49,150 Can we come back to this? 600 00:27:49,150 --> 00:27:52,023 So, what's going on on the dating front? 601 00:27:52,023 --> 00:27:53,720 Nothing serious with anyone. 602 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,332 I mean, I just got out of, like, a serious relationship. 603 00:27:57,332 --> 00:28:01,162 So, I feel like that's the last thing that I want. 604 00:28:02,381 --> 00:28:06,254 Well, it was a great first relationship. 605 00:28:06,254 --> 00:28:07,821 You know? I mean... 606 00:28:07,821 --> 00:28:11,520 Well, yeah, I completely agree. 607 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,176 He was fun and... you know, 608 00:28:15,176 --> 00:28:16,482 moving on. 609 00:28:16,482 --> 00:28:18,963 Watching Brooks navigate his first relationship 610 00:28:18,963 --> 00:28:20,791 was incredible. 611 00:28:20,791 --> 00:28:22,531 What do you want? What are you looking for? 612 00:28:22,531 --> 00:28:24,142 I don't know. 613 00:28:24,142 --> 00:28:25,752 And now Brooks has become, 614 00:28:25,752 --> 00:28:28,799 you know, more secure in his own being. 615 00:28:28,799 --> 00:28:30,670 Do you know what you don't want? 616 00:28:30,670 --> 00:28:32,454 I don't know what I don't want. 617 00:28:32,454 --> 00:28:36,545 It's wild to see him feeling comfortable and open. 618 00:28:36,545 --> 00:28:39,374 I like that Dad brings me coffee in bed every morning. 619 00:28:39,374 --> 00:28:42,029 I don't need my boyfriend to do that. 620 00:28:42,029 --> 00:28:45,032 Um... well, if you have a date 621 00:28:45,032 --> 00:28:46,947 or someone special you wanna invite, 622 00:28:46,947 --> 00:28:49,820 I'm hoping that, um, you guys 623 00:28:49,820 --> 00:28:52,213 will all come to the GLAAD Awards in L.A. 624 00:28:52,213 --> 00:28:54,433 They have asked me to sit on the host committee, 625 00:28:54,433 --> 00:28:56,348 and--and they've asked me to join the board. 626 00:28:56,348 --> 00:28:57,523 Congratulations. 627 00:28:57,523 --> 00:28:59,525 Thank you. 628 00:28:59,525 --> 00:29:01,483 Most supportive mom I know. 629 00:29:01,483 --> 00:29:04,051 Thanks, honey. 630 00:29:04,051 --> 00:29:06,097 Are you so excited to go snowshoeing? 631 00:29:06,097 --> 00:29:11,319 Yes. However, this weather is a little intimidating. 632 00:29:11,319 --> 00:29:14,888 I like how you're just using your goggles and sunglasses 633 00:29:14,888 --> 00:29:16,585 while you drive. 634 00:29:16,585 --> 00:29:17,935 Thanks. 635 00:29:17,935 --> 00:29:19,893 I like that you're wearing a 40-inch ponytail 636 00:29:19,893 --> 00:29:21,590 when we snowshoe. 637 00:29:22,809 --> 00:29:25,769 We're here. 638 00:29:25,769 --> 00:29:28,249 The land of snowshoeing. 639 00:29:28,249 --> 00:29:32,776 Whoo! All right, let's do it. 640 00:29:36,605 --> 00:29:38,825 Wow. 641 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,523 Here's your snowshoe. 642 00:29:41,523 --> 00:29:43,830 Okay, let's see if I can figure this out. 643 00:29:43,830 --> 00:29:46,485 I have done this before. 644 00:29:46,485 --> 00:29:49,140 You want help? 645 00:29:49,140 --> 00:29:51,403 Let me be your ski concierge. 646 00:29:51,403 --> 00:29:53,492 - Ow! - Sorry. Sorry. 647 00:29:53,492 --> 00:29:55,624 It's like a stretch putting these on. 648 00:29:55,624 --> 00:29:58,410 Maybe you should stretch a little more often. 649 00:29:58,410 --> 00:30:00,891 Trust me, I get stretched all the time. 650 00:30:00,891 --> 00:30:02,501 Okay, enough. 651 00:30:04,633 --> 00:30:06,505 Let's go. 652 00:30:12,859 --> 00:30:13,860 Come on! 653 00:30:13,860 --> 00:30:17,733 I'm not running. 654 00:30:21,955 --> 00:30:23,000 Coming up... 655 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,436 Don't just walk into my house. 656 00:30:24,436 --> 00:30:26,307 I knock, and nobody answers the door. 657 00:30:26,307 --> 00:30:29,006 You just walk in. I could be having sex, 658 00:30:29,006 --> 00:30:32,313 69 on the couch, and you would just walk in and see it. 659 00:30:32,313 --> 00:30:34,011 And we would never be the same again. 660 00:30:45,283 --> 00:30:48,764 Hey, Monica, Nana's hungry. 661 00:30:48,764 --> 00:30:50,027 Can we get Nana some lunch 662 00:30:50,027 --> 00:30:51,898 before we go to the senior center? 663 00:30:51,898 --> 00:30:53,378 Yeah, sure. Nana, are you hungry? 664 00:30:53,378 --> 00:30:56,772 She likes the, um, fish sandwiches at McDonald's. 665 00:30:56,772 --> 00:30:58,078 Oh, my gosh. 666 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,735 Moving around so much as a kid, 667 00:31:02,735 --> 00:31:07,653 I didn't get to know my cousins and aunts and uncles, 668 00:31:07,653 --> 00:31:12,049 but my grandmother and I were always very, very close. 669 00:31:12,049 --> 00:31:13,702 And a large fry. 670 00:31:13,702 --> 00:31:18,272 My grandmother and I are like... soul sisters, 671 00:31:18,272 --> 00:31:20,971 and I know my time with her is limited, 672 00:31:20,971 --> 00:31:24,191 and I definitely don't take it for granted. 673 00:31:24,191 --> 00:31:26,367 Nana, do you want some ice cream? 674 00:31:26,367 --> 00:31:27,455 No? 675 00:31:27,455 --> 00:31:29,501 Ooh! Nana, you want a French fry? 676 00:31:29,501 --> 00:31:32,591 Give her her sandwich. She's hangry. 677 00:31:32,591 --> 00:31:35,420 Oh, as soon as she sees the center ladies, 678 00:31:35,420 --> 00:31:38,510 she'll perk up, as--as soon as she sees her friends. 679 00:31:38,510 --> 00:31:40,425 Nana, you love your program, huh? 680 00:31:42,949 --> 00:31:45,386 Nana. 681 00:31:48,259 --> 00:31:49,956 Okay, we're here. 682 00:31:57,007 --> 00:32:01,272 Hi, everybody! Did you meet my daughter? 683 00:32:01,272 --> 00:32:04,275 - This is Olivia's granddaughter. - Yes. 684 00:32:04,275 --> 00:32:06,973 - Nice to meet you. - Nice to meet you guys. 685 00:32:06,973 --> 00:32:09,280 My grandma loves coming here so much. 686 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,847 She loves you guys so much. 687 00:32:11,847 --> 00:32:14,328 I'm gonna come sit right here. 688 00:32:14,328 --> 00:32:16,548 What are you guys playing? 689 00:32:16,548 --> 00:32:19,943 So, when Marie calls, like, a 5 of Clubs, 690 00:32:19,943 --> 00:32:21,422 you put it in here. 691 00:32:21,422 --> 00:32:23,642 Oh, okay. 692 00:32:23,642 --> 00:32:26,775 What are we playing for? Are we playing for money? 693 00:32:29,082 --> 00:32:31,432 Oh, we're playing for Coke. Okay. 694 00:32:31,432 --> 00:32:32,738 Here we go. 695 00:32:32,738 --> 00:32:36,568 King of Spades. We're right out of the gate. 696 00:32:36,568 --> 00:32:38,048 Right out the gate with the King, 697 00:32:38,048 --> 00:32:40,006 ladies and gentlemen, 698 00:32:40,006 --> 00:32:42,617 - Jack of Clubs. - Jack of Clubs. 699 00:32:44,706 --> 00:32:46,578 - Me. - Oh, Nana! 700 00:32:46,578 --> 00:32:47,753 Yay! 701 00:32:49,233 --> 00:32:51,844 You're the best dealer. She's got the energy. 702 00:32:51,844 --> 00:32:53,759 Okay... 703 00:32:53,759 --> 00:32:57,067 I'm out. Mom, do you wanna go get some coffee? Okay. 704 00:32:59,156 --> 00:33:01,506 You know what? I think you can find a man here. 705 00:33:01,506 --> 00:33:03,377 - Oh, my gosh. - Come and scope out 706 00:33:03,377 --> 00:33:05,075 the senior citizens? - What about the one-- 707 00:33:05,075 --> 00:33:09,035 Oh, the cutest one is leaving. He's leaving. Story of my life. 708 00:33:09,035 --> 00:33:11,516 - Go get his number. - Shut up. 709 00:33:11,516 --> 00:33:12,952 Oh, my gosh. 710 00:33:12,952 --> 00:33:14,867 I had a date Thursday that I have to tell you about. 711 00:33:14,867 --> 00:33:16,869 - Oh, God. - Yeah. 712 00:33:16,869 --> 00:33:18,044 Okay, let's sit down. 713 00:33:18,044 --> 00:33:20,307 - 2 of Clubs. - All right, 714 00:33:20,307 --> 00:33:22,875 can I tell you about my date? - How old is he? 715 00:33:22,875 --> 00:33:25,356 He's two years younger than me, so he's close to my age. 716 00:33:25,356 --> 00:33:27,184 - That's good. - Yeah. 717 00:33:27,184 --> 00:33:29,534 - 'Cause they never... - Hey. 718 00:33:29,534 --> 00:33:32,885 Uh, anyway, so he hits me up 719 00:33:32,885 --> 00:33:36,367 on Thursday, and he invited me to spend the weekend with him. 720 00:33:36,367 --> 00:33:39,370 - Did you have fun? - He ghosted me. 721 00:33:40,545 --> 00:33:42,590 You must have done something. 722 00:33:42,590 --> 00:33:46,942 - I did. - Queen of Diamonds! 723 00:33:46,942 --> 00:33:50,076 - What did you do? - I told him... 724 00:33:50,076 --> 00:33:52,600 Queen of Hearts. Yeah. 725 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:53,819 What? 726 00:33:53,819 --> 00:33:57,083 That even though I'm not Mormon anymore, 727 00:33:57,083 --> 00:33:58,737 I'm still celibate. 728 00:33:58,737 --> 00:34:00,391 Mom! 729 00:34:00,391 --> 00:34:02,523 I don't believe in sex before marriage. 730 00:34:02,523 --> 00:34:03,568 Mom. 731 00:34:03,568 --> 00:34:05,918 It is confusing that she is 732 00:34:05,918 --> 00:34:10,879 still following the doctrine but has left the Church. 733 00:34:10,879 --> 00:34:14,361 Somehow I think it makes her feel like a-a better person. 734 00:34:14,361 --> 00:34:16,102 Okay, I may be doing this, or I may be doing that, 735 00:34:16,102 --> 00:34:18,322 but I'm not having sex before marriage. 736 00:34:18,322 --> 00:34:21,107 Do you still consider yourself Mormon? 737 00:34:21,107 --> 00:34:24,850 I struggle with it, genuinely. 738 00:34:24,850 --> 00:34:27,896 Do you want to raise the girls in the Church? 739 00:34:27,896 --> 00:34:33,641 Because I believe wholeheartedly that those girls need Jesus. 740 00:34:35,121 --> 00:34:36,731 - They need scripture. - Okay, but do you realize-- 741 00:34:36,731 --> 00:34:38,559 They need prayer. They need to learn how to pray. 742 00:34:38,559 --> 00:34:41,084 Okay, stop. Stop. For real. 743 00:34:41,084 --> 00:34:43,608 Because when you left the Church, you came to me, 744 00:34:43,608 --> 00:34:45,653 and you apologized for raising me in the Church. 745 00:34:45,653 --> 00:34:47,612 - No, I didn't. - Yes, you did. 746 00:34:47,612 --> 00:34:50,919 You were like, "I'm so sorry that I raised you in this." 747 00:34:50,919 --> 00:34:52,660 I don't remember that. 748 00:34:52,660 --> 00:34:54,880 That's wild, because I will never forget that. 749 00:34:56,577 --> 00:34:58,449 - Um... - But now you want me 750 00:34:58,449 --> 00:35:00,581 to raise my kids in it. Do you know what I'm saying? 751 00:35:00,581 --> 00:35:04,455 What I think is important is family prayer. 752 00:35:04,455 --> 00:35:07,458 It's a joy to be the spiritual leader of your family. 753 00:35:07,458 --> 00:35:10,200 - Okay. - Every Sunday, we never missed. 754 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:11,984 - We went to church every Sunday. - And guess what? Your daughter 755 00:35:11,984 --> 00:35:13,986 still got knocked up at 19. - It was good-- 756 00:35:13,986 --> 00:35:16,380 You are literally saying 757 00:35:16,380 --> 00:35:20,166 if you don't go to church every Sunday, 758 00:35:20,166 --> 00:35:22,168 I'm raising my kids wrong. 759 00:35:22,168 --> 00:35:25,737 I do more with my kids than you ever did with me, 760 00:35:25,737 --> 00:35:27,130 and that is a fact. 761 00:35:27,130 --> 00:35:29,958 - I was a single parent. - I was a single parent! 762 00:35:29,958 --> 00:35:31,308 Making almost no money. 763 00:35:31,308 --> 00:35:33,658 I made $6.25 an hour when I had Bri. 764 00:35:33,658 --> 00:35:35,747 I was on food stamps. I was on state assistance. 765 00:35:35,747 --> 00:35:36,965 I was on all the things. 766 00:35:36,965 --> 00:35:39,316 We need to stop having a pissing contest. 767 00:35:39,316 --> 00:35:41,840 I'm your mother. I am not your equal. 768 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,494 - Mom-- - There has to be boundaries. 769 00:35:43,494 --> 00:35:46,149 - You don't wanna go there. - I do. 770 00:35:46,149 --> 00:35:47,498 Okay, let's talk about a boundary 771 00:35:47,498 --> 00:35:49,500 that you literally cannot learn, 772 00:35:49,500 --> 00:35:52,285 which is don't just walk into my house. You just walk in. 773 00:35:52,285 --> 00:35:54,287 I knock, and nobody answers the door. 774 00:35:54,287 --> 00:35:57,812 I could be having sex, 69 on the couch, 775 00:35:57,812 --> 00:35:59,640 and you would just walk in and see it, 776 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,207 and we would never be the same again. 777 00:36:04,210 --> 00:36:06,604 4 of Clubs. All right. 778 00:36:06,604 --> 00:36:10,390 Lock your door if you're gonna have 69 on the couch. 779 00:36:10,390 --> 00:36:12,784 I'm just saying. Let's start with that one. 780 00:36:12,784 --> 00:36:14,655 - That would be great. - Okay, what else? 781 00:36:14,655 --> 00:36:15,917 Don't say nasty things about me. 782 00:36:15,917 --> 00:36:17,354 - Like what? - Like when you forgot to hang up 783 00:36:17,354 --> 00:36:18,529 on me on the phone the other day. 784 00:36:18,529 --> 00:36:20,574 I didn't know you were on the phone. 785 00:36:20,574 --> 00:36:22,533 Recently, we were having a disagreement. 786 00:36:22,533 --> 00:36:24,709 She thought that the call dropped, 787 00:36:24,709 --> 00:36:27,668 and it hung up, and it did not. 788 00:36:27,668 --> 00:36:30,236 "You----ing piece of sh--. 789 00:36:30,236 --> 00:36:32,804 I hate your----ing guts, 790 00:36:32,804 --> 00:36:35,241 you----ing bitch. 791 00:36:35,241 --> 00:36:37,069 I----ing can't stand you." 792 00:36:37,069 --> 00:36:40,551 Nicki, on this place, you don't talk dirty. 793 00:36:40,551 --> 00:36:42,030 That was your daughter. That's what she said. 794 00:36:42,030 --> 00:36:43,771 I was repeating it, Nana. 795 00:36:43,771 --> 00:36:48,689 I don't care who is. No dirty here. 796 00:36:48,689 --> 00:36:52,215 Mom, honestly... 797 00:36:52,215 --> 00:36:55,130 - It's not----ing funny. - I'm so sorry. 798 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,569 I wish I could say that was the first time 799 00:36:58,569 --> 00:37:02,834 that had happened or that that wasn't normal, um... 800 00:37:02,834 --> 00:37:07,621 but that's very on par for... my mom. 801 00:37:07,621 --> 00:37:10,668 Like, in my worst days when I'm upset, 802 00:37:10,668 --> 00:37:14,019 I don't talk about hating my children's----ing guts. 803 00:37:14,019 --> 00:37:15,847 I really don't. I've never-- 804 00:37:15,847 --> 00:37:18,328 Like, I can't even imagine saying that. 805 00:37:18,328 --> 00:37:20,504 Yeah. 806 00:37:20,504 --> 00:37:22,810 Ace of Hearts! 807 00:37:22,810 --> 00:37:25,073 It's me! 808 00:37:38,043 --> 00:37:39,436 Hi! 809 00:37:39,436 --> 00:37:41,829 Who's this cool girl sitting over here? 810 00:37:41,829 --> 00:37:43,788 I did-- I did not even recognize you. 811 00:37:43,788 --> 00:37:45,659 Yeah, I'm--Really? 812 00:37:45,659 --> 00:37:47,313 I've tried to turn up. 813 00:37:47,313 --> 00:37:49,184 Your boots match your entire fit, too. 814 00:37:49,184 --> 00:37:50,795 I love it. 815 00:37:50,795 --> 00:37:53,188 I wouldn't want to ski with you if you weren't matching. 816 00:37:53,188 --> 00:37:55,103 - Solid? - Solid. 817 00:37:58,542 --> 00:38:01,371 You are going to fly. Fly by. 818 00:38:06,854 --> 00:38:09,117 Oh, we should hit that little jump. 819 00:38:17,604 --> 00:38:20,520 That's kind of a cool little contraption. 820 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,000 - Yeah. - I'll give myself a break, too. 821 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,218 Gonna give a break? Yeah. 822 00:38:23,218 --> 00:38:25,917 - Does that feel better? - Yeah. Thank you. 823 00:38:25,917 --> 00:38:28,659 - Fun party the other day. - Oh, Lisa's party? 824 00:38:28,659 --> 00:38:30,225 - Yeah. - Did you have a good time? 825 00:38:30,225 --> 00:38:33,881 I mean, I had fun until the end. It was crazy. 826 00:38:33,881 --> 00:38:36,406 I know. Well, I talked to Lisa about Jack going on his mission 827 00:38:36,406 --> 00:38:38,016 at the Aprés Ski, and she was like, 828 00:38:38,016 --> 00:38:39,887 "You're the last person I've told." 829 00:38:39,887 --> 00:38:41,541 And I was like, why didn't she wanna tell me? 830 00:38:41,541 --> 00:38:43,413 I know more about missions than anybody here. 831 00:38:43,413 --> 00:38:45,893 Why was I the last to know? 832 00:38:45,893 --> 00:38:48,896 It seems like it's just like a sore spot for you. 833 00:38:48,896 --> 00:38:51,246 - Like, it does it bug you? - It doesn't bug you? 834 00:38:51,246 --> 00:38:53,161 I don't really care. 835 00:38:53,161 --> 00:38:56,121 Like, honestly, good for him. 836 00:38:56,121 --> 00:38:58,602 - Good for him? - Yeah. 837 00:38:58,602 --> 00:39:00,212 - Why? - I think that he's doing 838 00:39:00,212 --> 00:39:04,259 what he thinks is good for him at this point in his life. 839 00:39:05,913 --> 00:39:07,741 And you don't have any global feelings about that 840 00:39:07,741 --> 00:39:09,700 in terms of, like, the Mormon Church? 841 00:39:09,700 --> 00:39:12,180 Oh, I have global feelings about the Mormon Church, 842 00:39:12,180 --> 00:39:13,617 but I don't really think 843 00:39:13,617 --> 00:39:16,359 about Jack and his relationship with the church. 844 00:39:16,359 --> 00:39:18,926 Whitney choosing to say, "Good for him" makes no sense. 845 00:39:18,926 --> 00:39:20,406 It's absurd. 846 00:39:20,406 --> 00:39:22,277 How can the Church be this horrible, traumatic thing 847 00:39:22,277 --> 00:39:23,888 that's ruined your life, 848 00:39:23,888 --> 00:39:25,455 that you wrote a letter to get away from... 849 00:39:25,455 --> 00:39:28,632 - Heather. - You printed it? 850 00:39:28,632 --> 00:39:30,590 This is the letter. 851 00:39:32,418 --> 00:39:34,028 ...but also be good for him 852 00:39:34,028 --> 00:39:36,727 to go out there and convert more people to live it? 853 00:39:36,727 --> 00:39:38,032 You don't feel conflicted about it when 854 00:39:38,032 --> 00:39:40,818 he's actually gonna, like, go door to door... 855 00:39:40,818 --> 00:39:43,429 telling people to join the Mormon Church 856 00:39:43,429 --> 00:39:45,431 when you've just left it? 857 00:39:45,431 --> 00:39:46,954 If I'm hearing you, do you feel like 858 00:39:46,954 --> 00:39:48,608 it's just, like, hypocritical? Is that... 859 00:39:48,608 --> 00:39:50,567 No, I just think, like, we are... 860 00:39:50,567 --> 00:39:52,090 - Like, he should be-- - ...acting all supportive 861 00:39:52,090 --> 00:39:53,613 and excited about a guy that's gonna go out there 862 00:39:53,613 --> 00:39:57,051 and sell a church that we know can be very destructive 863 00:39:57,051 --> 00:39:59,271 and not give them any of the details, 864 00:39:59,271 --> 00:40:00,925 just have them sign on the dotted line, 865 00:40:00,925 --> 00:40:03,231 because that's what we do as missionaries. 866 00:40:03,231 --> 00:40:04,755 And I'm conflicted because I-- 867 00:40:04,755 --> 00:40:06,626 of course, I had good experiences 868 00:40:06,626 --> 00:40:08,367 and learned a language and got to see France 869 00:40:08,367 --> 00:40:09,803 and have all these things 870 00:40:09,803 --> 00:40:11,239 that didn't ruin my life on my mission, 871 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,721 but I also had to convince people who didn't want 872 00:40:14,721 --> 00:40:17,594 to change their lives to join the Mormon Church, 873 00:40:17,594 --> 00:40:19,770 and I feel shame about that. 874 00:40:19,770 --> 00:40:22,337 Like, I feel bad that I changed 875 00:40:22,337 --> 00:40:25,515 and ruined a lot of people's lives with such conviction. 876 00:40:25,515 --> 00:40:26,907 - Yeah. - And if he was recruiting 877 00:40:26,907 --> 00:40:29,780 for another institution that had the same issues, 878 00:40:29,780 --> 00:40:33,000 we would not be like, "I don't care. To each his own." 879 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,828 What do you expect me to do, go knock on the door 880 00:40:34,828 --> 00:40:37,527 and be like, "Stop this"? 881 00:40:39,137 --> 00:40:41,139 I feel like we're not being honest about Church history, 882 00:40:41,139 --> 00:40:44,664 that it's homophobic, 883 00:40:44,664 --> 00:40:45,926 that it disacknowledges any sort of transgender. 884 00:40:45,926 --> 00:40:48,799 It just says it doesn't exist. 885 00:40:48,799 --> 00:40:50,844 These are my feelings about the Church. 886 00:40:50,844 --> 00:40:52,280 I know that they're not everyone's feelings 887 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,196 about the Church, but they are Whitney's, 888 00:40:55,196 --> 00:40:57,851 from what she's expressed to me and what we have discussed 889 00:40:57,851 --> 00:41:00,811 and what we have cried about and bonded over, 890 00:41:00,811 --> 00:41:02,595 she felt the very same way. 891 00:41:02,595 --> 00:41:04,597 - It's completely... - Sexist, 892 00:41:04,597 --> 00:41:07,034 ...sexist, misogynistic, bigoted, 893 00:41:07,034 --> 00:41:09,297 and it has a horrible, problematic, racist history. 894 00:41:09,297 --> 00:41:12,039 And so I feel like I'm in this, like, zone 895 00:41:12,039 --> 00:41:14,477 of where I'm trying to, like, form a new identity 896 00:41:14,477 --> 00:41:17,915 in a community that's telling me that I'm wrong. 897 00:41:17,915 --> 00:41:20,047 And that's how I feel writing this book. 898 00:41:20,047 --> 00:41:22,310 Like, I feel like I walk into a room, 899 00:41:22,310 --> 00:41:25,226 and everybody, like, assumes I'm their enemy. 900 00:41:25,226 --> 00:41:26,967 And I feel like that's kind of how Lisa felt. 901 00:41:26,967 --> 00:41:28,447 She didn't want to tell me about Jack's mission 902 00:41:28,447 --> 00:41:30,318 'cause she assumed I was gonna feel a certain kind of way 903 00:41:30,318 --> 00:41:32,059 'cause I wrote a certain kind of book. 904 00:41:32,059 --> 00:41:33,496 It's interesting that you say that, 905 00:41:33,496 --> 00:41:36,368 because I was with Lisa and Ange the other day, 906 00:41:36,368 --> 00:41:39,980 and Lisa had this major reaction 907 00:41:39,980 --> 00:41:42,069 to hearing that Angie came over to your house. 908 00:41:42,069 --> 00:41:44,245 She got mad that Angie came to my house? 909 00:41:44,245 --> 00:41:47,118 Yes. I think she was, like, jealous. Like, she was hurt. 910 00:41:48,728 --> 00:41:50,034 I'm really confused by Lisa. 911 00:41:50,034 --> 00:41:51,601 I don't know what she wants from me. 912 00:41:51,601 --> 00:41:54,342 If she wants to, like, have a compassionate friendship, 913 00:41:54,342 --> 00:41:56,519 you'd think she would tell me about Jack's mission 914 00:41:56,519 --> 00:41:59,260 and include me in all of that, but she didn't. 915 00:41:59,260 --> 00:42:02,133 But she's upset that I would extend myself to Angie. 916 00:42:02,133 --> 00:42:04,918 Like, she was really, like, butthurt about it. 917 00:42:04,918 --> 00:42:07,660 I've never seen anything like it before. 918 00:42:11,055 --> 00:42:14,188 Next time on "The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City"... 919 00:42:14,188 --> 00:42:16,756 Monica came to me like, "I'm your friend. 920 00:42:16,756 --> 00:42:19,280 I wanna tell this rumor to you." 921 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,109 She's not your friend. That's the bottom line. 922 00:42:22,109 --> 00:42:24,111 I don't break down and cry very often. 923 00:42:24,111 --> 00:42:25,852 and to see your wedding ring in the drawer every day, 924 00:42:25,852 --> 00:42:27,724 that hurts me. 925 00:42:30,553 --> 00:42:33,338 I just wanted to start off by welcoming everyone 926 00:42:33,338 --> 00:42:34,992 to our Greek Easter lunch. 927 00:42:34,992 --> 00:42:37,429 Your experience growing up in the Church 928 00:42:37,429 --> 00:42:39,474 was totally different than my experience. 929 00:42:39,474 --> 00:42:41,520 You can't tell me that you have a different level of Mormonism. 930 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:42,826 Our Mormonism is the same. 931 00:42:42,826 --> 00:42:45,263 You wrote a book about being a bad Mormon. 932 00:42:45,263 --> 00:42:47,482 I'm focused on my kid being a good Mormon. 933 00:42:47,482 --> 00:42:49,963 Difference between you and me is I don't----ing hide it. 934 00:42:49,963 --> 00:42:52,966 Everyone here is talking sh-- behind your back. 935 00:42:52,966 --> 00:42:56,666 I'm the only one saying it to your face. 936 00:42:56,666 --> 00:42:59,494 Tell her to stop it! 937 00:42:59,494 --> 00:43:00,931 Are you serious?! 938 00:43:00,931 --> 00:43:03,237 What is happening?