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Previously on "The Real
Housewives of Salt Lake City"...
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Jack is gonna serve a mission
for our church.
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No way.
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- Have you told Heather?
- No.
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- No?
- You're a door to door salesman.
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You are knocking on doors, selling
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The Church of Jesus Christ
of Latter-day Saints.
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That's all it is.
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Mom, I need your help
with the kids.
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I'm good for two hours.
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There are all these rumors
out there about Angie
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that I have heard.
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Do you know what the rumor is?
Angie needs to know.
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The rumor is that Shawn
likes to [bleep] other men.
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Are you----ing kidding me?
You know, she's a sick bitch.
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Hey, Meredith,
do you have a second?
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Hey, Meredith,
do you have a second?
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Sure.
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Okay, let's come on over here
where it's quiet.
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Well, you know, I'll just
kind of get right to the point.
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It sounds like
you are out spreading rumors
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about my marriage
and my husband.
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I obviously don't need
to go into detail
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because you know what it is.
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I don't know what
you're talking about.
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There are rumors about you.
I am not spreading them.
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But you are out spreading them.
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You have said it
to multiple women in the group.
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And I have
been told by the girls
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that you are saying things
about my husband and other men.
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And, Meredith, you know what--
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I'm not talking
about your husband.
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First of all,
I've not talked to Whitney.
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so I don't know what
you were saying with her.
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Who were you talking about?
Who were you talking with?
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You did. You--You said that--
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What are you talking about?
Oh, here we go.
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You said that in the airport,
you said that you heard rumors
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about her husband.
- What are you talking about?
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Oh, maybe I said I've heard
rumors about her husband,
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but that's all I said.
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You've gone after
every marriage in the group
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when meanwhile,
you're the only one that's out
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spreading their legs
outside of their marriage.
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I've been with my husband
for almost 30 years.
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- We're done.
- Okay, run away, Meredith.
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- I don't talk to people...
- Don't point your finger at me.
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...who don't speak to me
with respect.
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Go shove whipped cream
in her mouth.
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- You're real respectful.
- Was that respectful, Meredith?
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Was that respectful?
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I have never spoken to you
with disrespect.
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Learn how to speak to me
with respect.
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You know what? There's no
result. She runs away.
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You guys, I'm glad
we all got together.
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I'm so glad.
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Girl...
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Hey, don't turn your back on me.
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I'm not done talking to you.
If you're gonna spread rumors
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about my marriage, then you're
gonna look me in the eye,
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and you're going to address it.
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What's going on?
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Did you like it
when she spread rumors
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about you----ing giving
blowjobs for jazz tickets?
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It's rumored that one
of your business partners
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that has the Jazz tickets...
- I don't know--
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...that you've been
involved with.
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Who repeated that rumor?
You or me?
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I didn't know it.
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You told me that she performed
sexual favors!
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Make eye contact.
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Stop deflecting from
your----ing----ed up marriage.
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- I don't speak with people--
- Meredith, talk to me.
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- Don't touch me.
- No, I wanna--
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- You touch me--
- Don't talk about my marriage.
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- Don't touch me.
- Run away, Meredith!
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I don't speak to people
who treat me with disrespect.
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The only one who spreads
their legs
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outside their marriage is you.
- Not me, honey. Not me.
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- Yeah.
- Talk to yours.
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- Yeah.
- Deal with your marriage.
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- No, deal with yours.
- Leave mine alone.
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Deal with your--
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Learn how to speak
with respect to other please.
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Respect? You're spreading lies.
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I didn't spread anything, Angie.
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You are spreading lies.
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I didn't spread anything, Angie.
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You said it to multiple women
in the group, Meredith.
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She spreads lies
about people's marriage,
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and then she walks away.
My husband is having--
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Okay, okay, okay, okay,
okay, okay, okay, okay.
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What is it?
Monica, what just happened?
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She's gone
at everybody's marriage.
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When Meredith told me there were
rumors about Shawn and Angie...
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If I want to go for the jugular
and talk about this sh--...
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I can go there.
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I was really hoping it was
just a drunken comment,
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not something you're intending
on acting on spreading.
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I just cannot believe she's
doing the same thing again.
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Monica, what just happened?
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- She's full of sh-- and a liar.
- Wait, wait, hold on.
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What just happened?
I want to hear it from you.
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No, no, no.
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You guys, go.
I'm done with them.
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What just happened?
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Whitney was like,
"Let's tell Angie,"
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and I'm like, let's tell her.
- What was it, though?
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- That--
- What was there to tell?
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That Shawn----s men.
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No, he does not.
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That he has, like, boyfriends
running around the city
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bragging about their sex.
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I can't believe I wasted
another outfit on this event.
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Like, where's the food?
Like, what are we eating?
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Monica, I have never
heard that in my life.
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Everyone wants to pretend like
they haven't heard it.
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On my kids--on my kids,
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I have never
heard that in my life.
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But all of these women
have heard about this,
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have talked about this,
or have spread this.
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Some fake sh--.
That's some Utah sh--.
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- Have you heard the rumor?
- Yeah.
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- I haven't.
- You haven't heard that?
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- No.
- In Salt Lake,
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people always say it
about male hairdressers.
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This is Utah.
I've been to family reunions.
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If a guy wears a cardigan,
they think he's gay.
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And as soon as she married
a guy that had tapered pants
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and custom-made suits...
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the rumors started flying.
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Wait, Lisa, is there no food?
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No, there's lots of food.
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There's, um, let me see.
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Emily? Is Emily around?
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Yes. No problem.
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- Can I have it to go?
- Okay.
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Perfect.
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Can you have them make her
some fresh flatbread?
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Yeah.
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A fresh pizza is
what we need right now.
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- Sorry.
- Yeah, sorry you had anything
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to do with it.
- I have a good life.
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- I have a great marriage.
- She should worry about hers.
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Yeah.
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Love you. Love you. I'm sorry.
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Okay, thank you.
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You couldn't have put it
in the box yourself?
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For customer service?
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Uh-huh.
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No, you're lazy.
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I feel so sorry for you
that you're so miserable.
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I'm sorry for you, honey.
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Good Lord, girl.
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Bye. I'll talk to you soon.
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Bye, ladies.
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Crazy way to end things.
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There's something wrong
with her, Lisa.
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She has a-a weird thing with me.
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I don't know what it is,
and it's not my problem,
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and I'm not interested.
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It's crazy.
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All I know right now
is I need to take a moment
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and think about how we move
forward together as friends.
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You know, like, I can't believe
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that Meredith is
playing victim right now.
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Like, the real victim
in this situation is Angie
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...and me. It's my party.
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Thank you. Be safe going home.
Thanks for bringing Kathy.
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I was raised that family
is number one.
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It's the ultimate,
and my family is my whole world.
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And I'm lost
without Shawn and Elektra.
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And for somebody to
attack that or question that
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could really devastate
my family.
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- Oh, my God. Coffee.
- Here you go.
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I didn't sleep well last night.
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Are you okay?
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So many crazy things
went on last night that
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it's like I-I haven't
even been able
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to wrap my head around it all.
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There was some weird things
that came up,
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and I didn't wanna say
anything before bed
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because I was wiped out
when I came home.
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But I was a little shocked
at some things that, um,
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Meredith was saying.
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She started eluding
to the fact that
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she could destroy our family
and that you actually, um...
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like men.
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Or, you know, you are hooking up
with men on the side.
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What a----ing idiot.
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That's been a thing for you
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that you've had to listen to
for 30 years, you know?
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- Yeah.
- You're a hairdresser,
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so you're automatically gay.
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The bottom line is,
is gay, straight, whatever,
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it's the adultery part
of it that's bad.
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I mean, I know I don't have
to explain this sh-- to you.
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- No, I, uh, listen--
- You know, it--
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it's--it's crazy. It's nuts.
It's a smear campaign.
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And to what end is
this woman willing to go to?
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- What did we do?
- Don't let this bother you.
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Okay? Because I stood up
for my family,
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and I stood up for...
- Well--okay--
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...and for our marriage
and for our family unit.
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I don't...
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Shawn, she's a miserable bitch.
Don't let her get to you.
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You know,
Elektra's gonna hear about this,
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and it kills me to think...
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that she would ever think that
I would do something like this.
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She's not gonna think that.
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And, you know, she knows
who her mom and dad are.
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I've been working my ass off...
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to be her hero.
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But you are,
and the way that you handle this
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is gonna show her.
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She's gonna
admire you even more.
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You know, it's very dangerous to
make accusations of infidelity
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in the Greek community
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because
we are practicing Orthodox.
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We got married
in the Greek Orthodox Church
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24 years ago,
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and infidelity
is against our religion.
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Shawn and I might have
our problems,
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but being under attack, we are
a united front no matter what.
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You know, if somebody comes
for my family, my character,
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they're not welcome here anymore.
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She's not welcome in this home.
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I don't wanna
be around her at all.
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Rise and shine.
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How are you?
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Good.
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Jadey-bug.
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Jadey-bug.
Okay, start waking up, okay?
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I'm gonna
start making breakfast,
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but don't go back to sleep.
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Okay, we're all getting up.
Okay?
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Are you tired, too?
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You look like
you're still asleep.
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♪ Rise and shine
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As a single mom,
my life consists of running
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my kids everywhere,
all day, every day.
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I mean,
four different schedules,
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literally
four different schools.
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This one likes football.
This one likes gymnastics.
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This one likes art.
You know what I would like?
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Oh, my God.
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Five hours of extra sleep.
248
00:12:13,912 --> 00:12:17,567
West, what are you doing?
249
00:12:17,567 --> 00:12:20,832
- Oh, good, you found your shoes.
- They were right next to my--
250
00:12:20,832 --> 00:12:22,529
What's wrong with this one?
What the heck happened?
251
00:12:22,529 --> 00:12:24,139
- I know.
- Did Chap chew that?
252
00:12:24,139 --> 00:12:26,838
- Probably.
- Chap.
253
00:12:26,838 --> 00:12:30,580
My childhood was very different
from my kids'.
254
00:12:30,580 --> 00:12:33,801
Growing up,
we moved around so much
255
00:12:33,801 --> 00:12:36,369
because my mom
was always looking
256
00:12:36,369 --> 00:12:38,806
for something bigger and better.
257
00:12:38,806 --> 00:12:42,027
A lot of times,
that was at my expense.
258
00:12:42,027 --> 00:12:44,290
Cocoa bean!
259
00:12:44,290 --> 00:12:47,684
Good morning!
260
00:12:47,684 --> 00:12:49,948
I think there is some
resentment there for that.
261
00:12:49,948 --> 00:12:51,384
You guys have your backpacks?
262
00:12:51,384 --> 00:12:53,516
Let's go. Jade, we're gonna
leave without you, girl.
263
00:12:53,516 --> 00:12:56,041
No!
264
00:12:56,041 --> 00:12:59,218
I've always been
searching for stability,
265
00:12:59,218 --> 00:13:01,829
because I never had that.
266
00:13:01,829 --> 00:13:04,963
The only thing
that I can count on with my mom
267
00:13:04,963 --> 00:13:09,271
is that there's nothing
to count on with my mom.
268
00:13:09,271 --> 00:13:12,492
Who the freak's socks
are out here?
269
00:13:12,492 --> 00:13:15,669
Whose socks are in the yard?
270
00:13:15,669 --> 00:13:18,628
I know I'm not a perfect mom,
but I also know that my children
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will always be provided for,
272
00:13:20,195 --> 00:13:21,893
and they will always
have the essentials.
273
00:13:23,677 --> 00:13:24,721
Mm-hmm.
274
00:13:27,594 --> 00:13:30,640
Did you have
so much fun?
275
00:13:33,774 --> 00:13:36,690
Was that before or after
you said the "B" word, Westley?
276
00:13:40,912 --> 00:13:42,217
An accident?
277
00:13:45,003 --> 00:13:46,482
Boner?!
278
00:13:46,482 --> 00:13:49,659
- Okay. Wow.
- Where did you learn that word?
279
00:13:53,881 --> 00:13:56,753
-"Boner" is a bad word.
- What?
280
00:14:06,589 --> 00:14:09,201
- Did you just trip up the curb?
- No, I slipped.
281
00:14:09,201 --> 00:14:11,290
There's secret ice.
282
00:14:11,290 --> 00:14:12,769
Yeah. Stay away
from that secret ice.
283
00:14:12,769 --> 00:14:15,642
- Oh, here.
- Thanks, Jack.
284
00:14:15,642 --> 00:14:17,383
Welcome to M. Vincé Nail Spa.
How are you doing today?
285
00:14:17,383 --> 00:14:18,950
- How are you? Good, good.
- Good, good.
286
00:14:18,950 --> 00:14:20,908
- Did we have appointment today?
- We do, for two.
287
00:14:20,908 --> 00:14:22,736
Okay. Yeah. Go ahead and just
get signed in for me real quick.
288
00:14:22,736 --> 00:14:25,347
Okay, thank you.
- And we'll get started here.
289
00:14:26,827 --> 00:14:28,176
Let me have you--
let's sit here.
290
00:14:28,176 --> 00:14:29,482
- Thank you.
- And you can go there.
291
00:14:29,482 --> 00:14:31,223
- Awesome.
- How are you?
292
00:14:31,223 --> 00:14:34,704
Fine.
293
00:14:34,704 --> 00:14:36,793
Oh, my gosh.
I love that the water's hot.
294
00:14:38,795 --> 00:14:41,929
Um, okay,
so what's going on for prom?
295
00:14:41,929 --> 00:14:46,368
Uh, just asked a very beautiful
young lady last night.
296
00:14:46,368 --> 00:14:47,326
She said yes?
297
00:14:47,326 --> 00:14:48,588
Yeah.
298
00:14:48,588 --> 00:14:50,982
- Are you excited?
- Yeah, I'm so pumped.
299
00:14:50,982 --> 00:14:52,635
Does she know
you're going on a mission?
300
00:14:54,463 --> 00:14:56,465
You know, a lot of people here
301
00:14:56,465 --> 00:14:59,207
pay their kids to go on mission
or blackmail 'em
302
00:14:59,207 --> 00:15:01,644
or say, like, "Go, or you're
gonna embarrass the family."
303
00:15:01,644 --> 00:15:04,386
Like, there's social pressures
in Utah,
304
00:15:04,386 --> 00:15:07,128
but Jack has been raised
non-orthodox,
305
00:15:07,128 --> 00:15:09,696
and so I'm still, like,
processing everything.
306
00:15:09,696 --> 00:15:13,134
Like, the fact that I'm not
gonna have my son for two years
307
00:15:13,134 --> 00:15:15,571
is, like, a lot for a mom.
308
00:15:15,571 --> 00:15:17,008
Every single second with him,
309
00:15:17,008 --> 00:15:20,098
I just want it to be, like,
the best second with him.
310
00:15:20,098 --> 00:15:22,361
And it's a good thing.
He's big into men's grooming.
311
00:15:22,361 --> 00:15:24,754
Like... it's a bonus.
312
00:15:24,754 --> 00:15:27,757
Um, in my friend group,
everyone was like, shocked.
313
00:15:27,757 --> 00:15:30,847
And with Heather, she asked me
some questions, like,
314
00:15:30,847 --> 00:15:32,937
"Does he know
it's gonna be hard?"
315
00:15:32,937 --> 00:15:34,460
- Yeah.
- And I'm like, "Yeah, Heather.
316
00:15:34,460 --> 00:15:35,765
He's like, good."
I just couldn't get
317
00:15:35,765 --> 00:15:37,202
where she was going with it.
318
00:15:37,202 --> 00:15:39,291
Whitney told me that Jack's
going on a mission.
319
00:15:39,291 --> 00:15:40,901
Yeah.
320
00:15:40,901 --> 00:15:43,730
If you could choose for him,
would you tell him to go or not?
321
00:15:43,730 --> 00:15:45,950
Heather, we have to table this
for another day.
322
00:15:47,299 --> 00:15:48,996
Like, it's really
none of her business.
323
00:15:48,996 --> 00:15:51,607
It's not like
he's doing anything bad.
324
00:15:51,607 --> 00:15:53,522
I mean, he chose to serve
a mission instead of,
325
00:15:53,522 --> 00:15:57,222
like, meth or, like,
teenage pregnancies.
326
00:15:57,222 --> 00:16:01,835
I feel like you've made
the appropriate steps,
327
00:16:01,835 --> 00:16:04,011
um, to, like,
be prepared for this.
328
00:16:04,011 --> 00:16:07,101
What about the Book of Mormon?
Have you read that?
329
00:16:07,101 --> 00:16:10,191
- Yeah, I'm reading it right now.
- What do you think of it?
330
00:16:10,191 --> 00:16:11,932
- Very action packed.
- Really?
331
00:16:11,932 --> 00:16:14,456
- Yep.
- That's interesting.
332
00:16:14,456 --> 00:16:16,197
No, I have not read
the Book of Mormon,
333
00:16:16,197 --> 00:16:17,851
but based on the things
334
00:16:17,851 --> 00:16:19,548
I'm hearing about this book,
I kind of want to read it.
335
00:16:19,548 --> 00:16:22,116
You can turn into a movie,
and it'd, like, be good.
336
00:16:22,116 --> 00:16:26,033
I'm, like, shocked that Jack
is reading it before me.
337
00:16:26,033 --> 00:16:27,904
I am an avid reader.
338
00:16:29,341 --> 00:16:31,343
Heather asked me if you've
gone through the temple yet.
339
00:16:31,343 --> 00:16:32,953
And I'm like, "Not yet."
340
00:16:32,953 --> 00:16:34,650
She goes,
"Are you or John gonna go?"
341
00:16:34,650 --> 00:16:37,436
And I'm like, "Definitely John."
I'm like, "I just have to think
342
00:16:37,436 --> 00:16:38,915
about, like,
what's right for Jack."
343
00:16:38,915 --> 00:16:42,441
Going to the temple is like,
next level commitment,
344
00:16:42,441 --> 00:16:45,922
and, you know, like, you're
gonna have to wear garments.
345
00:16:45,922 --> 00:16:47,707
- And I respect the garments.
- The G's.
346
00:16:47,707 --> 00:16:50,362
And so, and you know,
I don't do that.
347
00:16:50,362 --> 00:16:52,146
I go to church every Sunday.
348
00:16:52,146 --> 00:16:54,844
The difference is the pretty
buildings, the temples,
349
00:16:54,844 --> 00:16:56,759
you have to be worthy
to go in them.
350
00:16:56,759 --> 00:16:58,457
But your dad 100%
will be in there with you.
351
00:16:58,457 --> 00:17:00,328
- Yeah.
- Do you know what I mean?
352
00:17:00,328 --> 00:17:02,069
Yep.
353
00:17:02,069 --> 00:17:03,766
Like, I might not feel worthy because
354
00:17:03,766 --> 00:17:06,117
I drink too much Diet Coke.
355
00:17:06,117 --> 00:17:07,770
Someone might not be--
feel worthy because
356
00:17:07,770 --> 00:17:09,207
they drink too much alcohol.
357
00:17:09,207 --> 00:17:11,035
Like, someone
might not be worthy because
358
00:17:11,035 --> 00:17:12,601
they're hitting it
with their neighbor.
359
00:17:12,601 --> 00:17:15,213
I mean, there's lots
of reasons you don't go.
360
00:17:15,213 --> 00:17:17,128
It's not like I'm
doing anything wrong, Jack,
361
00:17:17,128 --> 00:17:18,651
but I could do more right.
362
00:17:18,651 --> 00:17:21,132
Like, there's been
a night that I don't go to bed,
363
00:17:21,132 --> 00:17:24,048
like, thinking, like,
was I a good enough mom today?
364
00:17:24,048 --> 00:17:28,052
Clearly I'm a great mom
if you made this decision.
365
00:17:28,052 --> 00:17:30,184
No, the decision
was all me, though.
366
00:17:30,184 --> 00:17:32,099
That's why I didn't tell you.
367
00:17:32,099 --> 00:17:34,319
I know.
368
00:17:34,319 --> 00:17:36,538
I'm excited.
369
00:17:36,538 --> 00:17:39,019
I'm excited for you. I love you.
370
00:17:39,019 --> 00:17:42,327
- Love you.
- I love you so much.
371
00:17:42,327 --> 00:17:44,111
- My little bestie.
- Yep.
372
00:17:45,460 --> 00:17:46,766
Coming up...
373
00:17:46,766 --> 00:17:48,028
I think Heather finally
374
00:17:48,028 --> 00:17:50,248
is willing to try
and learn to trust me.
375
00:17:50,248 --> 00:17:54,991
She has never given me that.
This is----ing bullsh--.
376
00:17:54,991 --> 00:17:57,081
♪.
377
00:18:15,708 --> 00:18:18,624
Hey, Ange.
378
00:18:18,624 --> 00:18:20,104
- Hello.
- Hey!
379
00:18:20,104 --> 00:18:22,193
Oh, my gosh, you guys.
380
00:18:22,193 --> 00:18:24,195
I love coming to a Greek's house
'cause I know I'm gonna eat.
381
00:18:24,195 --> 00:18:26,066
You're gonna eat with me.
382
00:18:26,066 --> 00:18:26,893
Aw, it's so good
to see you guys.
383
00:18:26,893 --> 00:18:28,503
We brought you something.
384
00:18:28,503 --> 00:18:31,115
Yeah. We brought you
all the necessary things.
385
00:18:31,115 --> 00:18:33,291
Wow. Thank you. Come on in.
Can I take your purses?
386
00:18:33,291 --> 00:18:34,727
Is Shawn here?
387
00:18:34,727 --> 00:18:36,163
He just took a Elektra
to horseback riding lessons.
388
00:18:36,163 --> 00:18:37,904
- Oh, he did?
- Yeah. Uh-huh.
389
00:18:37,904 --> 00:18:40,863
Oh, my gosh. I love this.
All my favorite things.
390
00:18:40,863 --> 00:18:42,343
- Help yourselves.
- Do you have Diet Coke?
391
00:18:42,343 --> 00:18:44,215
- Oh, Lord.
- It's okay if you don't.
392
00:18:44,215 --> 00:18:45,825
I can grab one on my way home.
393
00:18:45,825 --> 00:18:49,089
She probably has one in her car.
In fact, I did. I saw a cup.
394
00:18:49,089 --> 00:18:51,396
On a normal day,
I would have grabbed you some.
395
00:18:51,396 --> 00:18:52,832
No, no, no. It's good.
396
00:18:52,832 --> 00:18:54,529
I'm, like, uh, you know,
little sleep-deprived.
397
00:18:54,529 --> 00:18:56,401
How are you feeling?
398
00:18:56,401 --> 00:18:58,664
Guys...
I'm still processing.
399
00:18:58,664 --> 00:19:03,190
I mean, I feel like
I'm half asleep right now.
400
00:19:03,190 --> 00:19:05,758
Do you guys want to sit down,
and I'll bring this over?
401
00:19:05,758 --> 00:19:07,368
Yeah, no, we can sit down.
402
00:19:07,368 --> 00:19:10,110
I am definitely worried
about Angie.
403
00:19:10,110 --> 00:19:11,633
I know what it feels like.
I went through this.
404
00:19:11,633 --> 00:19:14,288
I mean, I wish someone
had checked in on me last year.
405
00:19:14,288 --> 00:19:17,161
Instead, I had to go to bed
eating a burrito.
406
00:19:17,161 --> 00:19:19,250
I'm so grateful
that you guys are here.
407
00:19:19,250 --> 00:19:20,773
I just keep looking at you,
and it's like this
408
00:19:20,773 --> 00:19:23,602
sort of sense of relief
because this has been hard...
409
00:19:23,602 --> 00:19:25,169
- Oh, my God.
- ...to put a smile on my face
410
00:19:25,169 --> 00:19:26,996
in front of my daughter
411
00:19:26,996 --> 00:19:29,564
and talk to Shawn this morning
about it.
412
00:19:29,564 --> 00:19:32,176
I just--I told him.
413
00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,267
- He cried.
- Oh, my God.
414
00:19:36,267 --> 00:19:38,007
Because now there's
a little person involved.
415
00:19:38,007 --> 00:19:41,185
You know, I--to see him
like that just crushed me.
416
00:19:41,185 --> 00:19:42,621
- It's the worst.
- It's--
417
00:19:42,621 --> 00:19:45,972
But because of the impact
it's gonna have on Elektra.
418
00:19:45,972 --> 00:19:48,801
She's gonna hear this,
and it's out there.
419
00:19:48,801 --> 00:19:50,716
How is this gonna
affect my daughter?
420
00:19:50,716 --> 00:19:52,935
Mm-hmm.
421
00:19:52,935 --> 00:19:57,331
But he's like,
"I've been working so hard
422
00:19:57,331 --> 00:20:01,509
to be her hero and, like,
everything that I've worked for,
423
00:20:01,509 --> 00:20:03,990
and I would
never want her to think
424
00:20:03,990 --> 00:20:05,905
that I would do that
to our family.
425
00:20:05,905 --> 00:20:11,998
Ange, I was just in your shoes.
No one believes this bullsh--.
426
00:20:11,998 --> 00:20:13,173
You and Shawn
are like me and John.
427
00:20:13,173 --> 00:20:14,522
We work together.
We do everything.
428
00:20:14,522 --> 00:20:15,697
- We're family.
- We are inseparable,
429
00:20:15,697 --> 00:20:17,308
the three of us.
- Yeah.
430
00:20:17,308 --> 00:20:18,570
We know where
your husband sleeps.
431
00:20:18,570 --> 00:20:20,006
He sleeps in your bed
with Elektra.
432
00:20:20,006 --> 00:20:23,009
- Every night.
- Yes.
433
00:20:23,009 --> 00:20:24,706
We all go to bed
at the same time.
434
00:20:24,706 --> 00:20:26,273
And last night,
435
00:20:26,273 --> 00:20:27,709
when we went to bed, she, like,
grabbed and held my hand,
436
00:20:27,709 --> 00:20:30,538
and I fell asleep
with her little hand in mine.
437
00:20:30,538 --> 00:20:33,280
And I just thought,
you know, this is what matters.
438
00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,108
And the biggest thing here
439
00:20:35,108 --> 00:20:37,371
is how am I going to
navigate this in front of her?
440
00:20:37,371 --> 00:20:39,112
I'm in a weird position because
441
00:20:39,112 --> 00:20:41,549
I'm trying to build a friendship
back with Meredith,
442
00:20:41,549 --> 00:20:45,031
but, like, in my head,
I'm like, no, no, no, no,
443
00:20:45,031 --> 00:20:48,513
pump the brakes,
because how do I stay silent
444
00:20:48,513 --> 00:20:52,125
when she's, like,
literally the exact same thing
445
00:20:52,125 --> 00:20:54,214
doing to you what she did to me.
446
00:20:54,214 --> 00:20:56,477
It's literally a formula,
447
00:20:56,477 --> 00:20:58,871
and you just--it's like,
take Lisa's name out,
448
00:20:58,871 --> 00:21:00,089
insert Angie's.
449
00:21:00,089 --> 00:21:02,788
My advice is
do not feed into Meredith.
450
00:21:02,788 --> 00:21:04,268
You did nothing wrong.
451
00:21:04,268 --> 00:21:05,225
Learn from my experience
last year...
452
00:21:05,225 --> 00:21:06,574
- Well...
- In mind, in mind.
453
00:21:06,574 --> 00:21:08,707
I wish I would have just
been like, stop, move on.
454
00:21:08,707 --> 00:21:11,231
- She is not worth it.
- No.
455
00:21:11,231 --> 00:21:13,712
Why is Monica
saying so much, though?
456
00:21:15,409 --> 00:21:20,196
I honestly felt like Monica,
like, she had heard the rumor
457
00:21:20,196 --> 00:21:22,155
and she was like, "I wanna
be a good friend to Angie,"
458
00:21:22,155 --> 00:21:23,809
like, in the moment.
459
00:21:23,809 --> 00:21:27,378
She----ing makes up stuff just
like that Snoop Dogg plane ride.
460
00:21:29,597 --> 00:21:32,426
I know, but the point--
like, I think that,
461
00:21:32,426 --> 00:21:35,168
yes, you and Monica had
an interesting time
462
00:21:35,168 --> 00:21:37,736
in Palm Springs,
and there was that whole thing.
463
00:21:37,736 --> 00:21:41,261
But I-I think it is important
to remember
464
00:21:41,261 --> 00:21:43,045
that she had the courage
to tell you.
465
00:21:43,045 --> 00:21:45,047
Like, she was
being a good friend to you.
466
00:21:45,047 --> 00:21:46,614
Well, I'm grateful
you both sat me down.
467
00:21:46,614 --> 00:21:48,137
I-I am.
468
00:21:48,137 --> 00:21:50,139
Monica's not the one
to be blamed for this
469
00:21:50,139 --> 00:21:53,360
just because
she said what the rumor was.
470
00:21:53,360 --> 00:21:56,494
She's Meredith's decoy,
and I just can't believe that
471
00:21:56,494 --> 00:21:58,583
Lisa is really, like,
falling for it, too.
472
00:21:58,583 --> 00:22:03,370
Like, Meredith is
the one who started this.
473
00:22:03,370 --> 00:22:05,241
It was a rough one, and I could
not have gotten through--
474
00:22:05,241 --> 00:22:06,765
- Well, you're doing so well.
- You know what, Angie--
475
00:22:06,765 --> 00:22:09,071
Like, you're--I honestly thought
we were gonna come over
476
00:22:09,071 --> 00:22:10,421
to a different situation.
- Yeah, you were so tough.
477
00:22:10,421 --> 00:22:12,553
You were so tough yesterday,
too. Like, yeah.
478
00:22:12,553 --> 00:22:14,120
You're strong.
You're a badass.
479
00:22:14,120 --> 00:22:16,296
Well, thank you.
I do have to ask,
480
00:22:16,296 --> 00:22:18,994
how do you feel about Heather
after yesterday?
481
00:22:18,994 --> 00:22:20,692
So, you know, I told her,
I'm like,
482
00:22:20,692 --> 00:22:22,781
"You're the last one to know,
but Jack's going on a mission."
483
00:22:22,781 --> 00:22:26,262
And you know, I'm like, "This is
a positive experience for Jack."
484
00:22:26,262 --> 00:22:28,439
I don't need
to argue it with Heather.
485
00:22:28,439 --> 00:22:30,354
I want you to know,
after Palm Springs,
486
00:22:30,354 --> 00:22:33,313
I've seen
a different side of Heather,
487
00:22:33,313 --> 00:22:37,099
and... she invited me
to her house.
488
00:22:40,494 --> 00:22:45,978
You said a lot of mean, horrible
things to me about my life.
489
00:22:45,978 --> 00:22:47,588
And I'm sorry.
490
00:22:47,588 --> 00:22:51,331
Look, you've seen I get hot
and say things, and I apologize.
491
00:22:51,331 --> 00:22:53,420
I have to say
I had mad respect for you.
492
00:22:53,420 --> 00:22:56,205
Like, I don't think
I could have survived that trip
493
00:22:56,205 --> 00:22:59,339
the way you did,
And I wanna apologize
494
00:22:59,339 --> 00:23:02,342
that I didn't show up for you
at all. I'm really sorry.
495
00:23:02,342 --> 00:23:04,605
Well, the fact that you are
acknowledging that
496
00:23:04,605 --> 00:23:06,259
means the world to me.
497
00:23:06,259 --> 00:23:09,044
It gives me a glimmer of hope
that you and I can move forward.
498
00:23:09,044 --> 00:23:12,483
And look, I was... honored,
499
00:23:12,483 --> 00:23:14,223
actually, that she invited me
into her home
500
00:23:14,223 --> 00:23:16,835
because I've known her
since I was 15,
501
00:23:16,835 --> 00:23:19,098
and I don't like the tension.
502
00:23:19,098 --> 00:23:20,360
Mm-hmm.
503
00:23:20,360 --> 00:23:22,362
I think Heather
finally opened up to me,
504
00:23:22,362 --> 00:23:24,582
and she said that
in Palm Springs,
505
00:23:24,582 --> 00:23:28,368
she really felt bad
that she sat back
506
00:23:28,368 --> 00:23:32,546
while I was...
taking all that sh--.
507
00:23:32,546 --> 00:23:35,157
I think because it felt
layered on, and she sat--
508
00:23:35,157 --> 00:23:36,942
you know, she was part of it.
- No, the layers are never good.
509
00:23:36,942 --> 00:23:38,683
She was part of it.
510
00:23:38,683 --> 00:23:40,859
I think she started to feel
really guilty about it.
511
00:23:40,859 --> 00:23:42,121
- Mm-hmm.
- Good.
512
00:23:42,121 --> 00:23:43,818
Yeah, it was layered.
It was layered.
513
00:23:43,818 --> 00:23:45,167
Oh, I know what it feels like
to be layered on, trust me.
514
00:23:45,167 --> 00:23:46,865
I know you do. I've seen it.
515
00:23:46,865 --> 00:23:49,911
I don't know.
She was, like, really receptive.
516
00:23:49,911 --> 00:23:53,698
She was kind and that she said,
"You took a lot of sh--.
517
00:23:53,698 --> 00:23:55,047
You have a lot of grit."
518
00:23:55,047 --> 00:23:56,875
Oh, my gosh. You're lucky
she gave that to you.
519
00:23:56,875 --> 00:23:58,529
- She's never done that with me.
- Well, and, look--
520
00:23:58,529 --> 00:24:01,445
No, for real. Like, a lot's
going through my mind right now.
521
00:24:01,445 --> 00:24:03,055
- And it--
- Because I'm like,
522
00:24:03,055 --> 00:24:05,623
I'm happy for you, but she has
never given me that,
523
00:24:05,623 --> 00:24:07,973
like, ever, Ange. Ever.
- Lisa, it's given me a lot--
524
00:24:07,973 --> 00:24:09,583
It's--It's taken me a long time
to get there.
525
00:24:09,583 --> 00:24:12,499
And I have
mixed feelings about it.
526
00:24:12,499 --> 00:24:15,067
I am literally getting triggered
by this because I'm like,
527
00:24:15,067 --> 00:24:17,461
where was this friendship
last year?
528
00:24:17,461 --> 00:24:20,551
Like, this is----ing bullsh--.
529
00:24:20,551 --> 00:24:23,684
♪.
530
00:24:28,907 --> 00:24:32,171
Like, the amount of crap
I have gone through
531
00:24:32,171 --> 00:24:34,042
and that she has seen me
gone through,
532
00:24:34,042 --> 00:24:37,698
like, I've had to put my hurt
aside with a lot of things.
533
00:24:37,698 --> 00:24:39,744
I know.
- And for me, I'm like,
534
00:24:39,744 --> 00:24:42,137
you know what?
Last year, Heather, if you even
535
00:24:42,137 --> 00:24:45,140
cared a 10th about me,
you would have come to me
536
00:24:45,140 --> 00:24:47,795
and said to me, like, "Hey,
guess what? You took a beating.
537
00:24:47,795 --> 00:24:50,232
I saw you just getting brutalized,
538
00:24:50,232 --> 00:24:52,626
and I feel bad about it."
539
00:24:52,626 --> 00:24:54,802
It is so upsetting to me
540
00:24:54,802 --> 00:24:57,979
because where are my accolades
for putting up with people
541
00:24:57,979 --> 00:25:01,200
talking about my family,
my business, me behind my back?
542
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,595
It's like, Angie, you had
a bad weekend in Palm Springs.
543
00:25:04,595 --> 00:25:07,075
I had to endure it
for three----ing years.
544
00:25:07,075 --> 00:25:09,034
Listen, Angie, you just
went through sh-- yesterday.
545
00:25:09,034 --> 00:25:10,862
Like, literally,
this is not about me,
546
00:25:10,862 --> 00:25:14,430
but I have had literally
what you had times 10, Ange.
547
00:25:14,430 --> 00:25:16,215
I know. I know.
- I know this----ing sucks,
548
00:25:16,215 --> 00:25:17,564
and it's so raw.
- It does.
549
00:25:17,564 --> 00:25:19,087
But it came,
and it wouldn't stop.
550
00:25:19,087 --> 00:25:20,480
I know.
551
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,351
Somebody told Henry last week
that they're like,
552
00:25:22,351 --> 00:25:24,615
"Oh, there's naked pictures
of your mom online."
553
00:25:24,615 --> 00:25:26,355
Henry lost his mind.
554
00:25:26,355 --> 00:25:29,010
He called me hysterically
crying. He's in fifth grade.
555
00:25:29,010 --> 00:25:31,752
And because of all
this other stupid stuff,
556
00:25:31,752 --> 00:25:33,232
it made him think
for a minute, like,
557
00:25:33,232 --> 00:25:35,234
"Maybe there is that
about my mom."
558
00:25:35,234 --> 00:25:36,757
I get it, Lisa.
559
00:25:36,757 --> 00:25:40,369
Lisa's reaction
is very shocking to me.
560
00:25:40,369 --> 00:25:43,851
Like, I had no idea that she was
harboring so many feelings
561
00:25:43,851 --> 00:25:47,202
from last year, but, like,
Lisa, read the room.
562
00:25:47,202 --> 00:25:49,074
The timing is not right.
563
00:25:49,074 --> 00:25:52,033
Like, we came over here
to make Angie feel better.
564
00:25:52,033 --> 00:25:53,992
I had the sh-- kicked out of me emotionally,
565
00:25:53,992 --> 00:25:55,863
and I was just, like,
it all because
566
00:25:55,863 --> 00:25:57,909
no one's there for me
for a time,
567
00:25:57,909 --> 00:25:59,606
and I'm just like, whatever.
568
00:25:59,606 --> 00:26:01,913
Is it hard to sit here and hear
that she got invited over,
569
00:26:01,913 --> 00:26:04,045
got an apology...
- You--You got an apology.
570
00:26:04,045 --> 00:26:05,699
- ...and you never did?
-"Oh, I wanna get to know you"?
571
00:26:05,699 --> 00:26:07,875
I have never gotten that
from Heather.
572
00:26:07,875 --> 00:26:10,748
I like myself too much.
Like, I like who I am.
573
00:26:10,748 --> 00:26:13,446
I like myself too much
to even deal with this.
574
00:26:13,446 --> 00:26:15,535
I'm good with you guys.
That's all I----ing care about.
575
00:26:15,535 --> 00:26:17,711
Everybody else--
we'll figure it out.
576
00:26:37,339 --> 00:26:41,430
It's been a little bit
of a rough few days.
577
00:26:41,430 --> 00:26:44,956
After my friend Kathy and I
left Lisa's party...
578
00:26:44,956 --> 00:26:46,261
She's not my problem.
579
00:26:46,261 --> 00:26:47,611
She's her own problem.
580
00:26:47,611 --> 00:26:49,264
We got in the car,
581
00:26:49,264 --> 00:26:52,616
and we're driving
for about 15 minutes or so
582
00:26:52,616 --> 00:26:55,662
in a terrible, terrible snowstorm.
583
00:26:55,662 --> 00:26:58,709
And our driver
lost control of the car.
584
00:27:00,928 --> 00:27:03,627
On one side of the road
was the cliff,
585
00:27:03,627 --> 00:27:05,585
and the other side
was a snowbank.
586
00:27:05,585 --> 00:27:07,065
And it appeared
587
00:27:07,065 --> 00:27:10,372
that we were going
to go over the cliff.
588
00:27:11,635 --> 00:27:13,593
And he somehow gained
enough control
589
00:27:13,593 --> 00:27:15,769
to steer us into the snowbank.
590
00:27:15,769 --> 00:27:19,947
It was... terrifying.
591
00:27:19,947 --> 00:27:23,168
I thought I was dying.
592
00:27:23,168 --> 00:27:26,737
I thought my last interactions
of significance
593
00:27:26,737 --> 00:27:28,695
were what just happened
at Lisa's party
594
00:27:28,695 --> 00:27:31,263
that was just ugly and mean.
595
00:27:31,263 --> 00:27:34,527
And I decided
I really wanna spend my time
596
00:27:34,527 --> 00:27:37,225
with the people
that I care about the most,
597
00:27:37,225 --> 00:27:40,489
because we never know
when it's ending.
598
00:27:42,013 --> 00:27:45,451
I'm like, I'm--I'm... Yeah.
599
00:27:46,757 --> 00:27:49,150
Can we come back to this?
600
00:27:49,150 --> 00:27:52,023
So, what's going on
on the dating front?
601
00:27:52,023 --> 00:27:53,720
Nothing serious with anyone.
602
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,332
I mean, I just got out of,
like, a serious relationship.
603
00:27:57,332 --> 00:28:01,162
So, I feel like that's
the last thing that I want.
604
00:28:02,381 --> 00:28:06,254
Well, it was
a great first relationship.
605
00:28:06,254 --> 00:28:07,821
You know? I mean...
606
00:28:07,821 --> 00:28:11,520
Well, yeah, I completely agree.
607
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,176
He was fun and... you know,
608
00:28:15,176 --> 00:28:16,482
moving on.
609
00:28:16,482 --> 00:28:18,963
Watching Brooks navigate
his first relationship
610
00:28:18,963 --> 00:28:20,791
was incredible.
611
00:28:20,791 --> 00:28:22,531
What do you want?
What are you looking for?
612
00:28:22,531 --> 00:28:24,142
I don't know.
613
00:28:24,142 --> 00:28:25,752
And now Brooks has become,
614
00:28:25,752 --> 00:28:28,799
you know, more secure
in his own being.
615
00:28:28,799 --> 00:28:30,670
Do you know what you don't want?
616
00:28:30,670 --> 00:28:32,454
I don't know what I don't want.
617
00:28:32,454 --> 00:28:36,545
It's wild to see him
feeling comfortable and open.
618
00:28:36,545 --> 00:28:39,374
I like that Dad brings me coffee
in bed every morning.
619
00:28:39,374 --> 00:28:42,029
I don't need my boyfriend
to do that.
620
00:28:42,029 --> 00:28:45,032
Um... well, if you have a date
621
00:28:45,032 --> 00:28:46,947
or someone special
you wanna invite,
622
00:28:46,947 --> 00:28:49,820
I'm hoping that, um, you guys
623
00:28:49,820 --> 00:28:52,213
will all come
to the GLAAD Awards in L.A.
624
00:28:52,213 --> 00:28:54,433
They have asked me
to sit on the host committee,
625
00:28:54,433 --> 00:28:56,348
and--and they've asked me
to join the board.
626
00:28:56,348 --> 00:28:57,523
Congratulations.
627
00:28:57,523 --> 00:28:59,525
Thank you.
628
00:28:59,525 --> 00:29:01,483
Most supportive mom I know.
629
00:29:01,483 --> 00:29:04,051
Thanks, honey.
630
00:29:04,051 --> 00:29:06,097
Are you so excited
to go snowshoeing?
631
00:29:06,097 --> 00:29:11,319
Yes. However, this weather
is a little intimidating.
632
00:29:11,319 --> 00:29:14,888
I like how you're just using
your goggles and sunglasses
633
00:29:14,888 --> 00:29:16,585
while you drive.
634
00:29:16,585 --> 00:29:17,935
Thanks.
635
00:29:17,935 --> 00:29:19,893
I like that you're wearing
a 40-inch ponytail
636
00:29:19,893 --> 00:29:21,590
when we snowshoe.
637
00:29:22,809 --> 00:29:25,769
We're here.
638
00:29:25,769 --> 00:29:28,249
The land of snowshoeing.
639
00:29:28,249 --> 00:29:32,776
Whoo! All right, let's do it.
640
00:29:36,605 --> 00:29:38,825
Wow.
641
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,523
Here's your snowshoe.
642
00:29:41,523 --> 00:29:43,830
Okay, let's see
if I can figure this out.
643
00:29:43,830 --> 00:29:46,485
I have done this before.
644
00:29:46,485 --> 00:29:49,140
You want help?
645
00:29:49,140 --> 00:29:51,403
Let me be your ski concierge.
646
00:29:51,403 --> 00:29:53,492
- Ow!
- Sorry. Sorry.
647
00:29:53,492 --> 00:29:55,624
It's like a stretch
putting these on.
648
00:29:55,624 --> 00:29:58,410
Maybe you should
stretch a little more often.
649
00:29:58,410 --> 00:30:00,891
Trust me,
I get stretched all the time.
650
00:30:00,891 --> 00:30:02,501
Okay, enough.
651
00:30:04,633 --> 00:30:06,505
Let's go.
652
00:30:12,859 --> 00:30:13,860
Come on!
653
00:30:13,860 --> 00:30:17,733
I'm not running.
654
00:30:21,955 --> 00:30:23,000
Coming up...
655
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,436
Don't just walk into my house.
656
00:30:24,436 --> 00:30:26,307
I knock,
and nobody answers the door.
657
00:30:26,307 --> 00:30:29,006
You just walk in.
I could be having sex,
658
00:30:29,006 --> 00:30:32,313
69 on the couch, and you would
just walk in and see it.
659
00:30:32,313 --> 00:30:34,011
And we would never be
the same again.
660
00:30:45,283 --> 00:30:48,764
Hey, Monica, Nana's hungry.
661
00:30:48,764 --> 00:30:50,027
Can we get Nana some lunch
662
00:30:50,027 --> 00:30:51,898
before we go
to the senior center?
663
00:30:51,898 --> 00:30:53,378
Yeah, sure.
Nana, are you hungry?
664
00:30:53,378 --> 00:30:56,772
She likes the, um,
fish sandwiches at McDonald's.
665
00:30:56,772 --> 00:30:58,078
Oh, my gosh.
666
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,735
Moving around so much as a kid,
667
00:31:02,735 --> 00:31:07,653
I didn't get to know my cousins
and aunts and uncles,
668
00:31:07,653 --> 00:31:12,049
but my grandmother and I
were always very, very close.
669
00:31:12,049 --> 00:31:13,702
And a large fry.
670
00:31:13,702 --> 00:31:18,272
My grandmother and I are like...
soul sisters,
671
00:31:18,272 --> 00:31:20,971
and I know my time with her
is limited,
672
00:31:20,971 --> 00:31:24,191
and I definitely don't
take it for granted.
673
00:31:24,191 --> 00:31:26,367
Nana, do you want
some ice cream?
674
00:31:26,367 --> 00:31:27,455
No?
675
00:31:27,455 --> 00:31:29,501
Ooh! Nana, you want
a French fry?
676
00:31:29,501 --> 00:31:32,591
Give her her sandwich.
She's hangry.
677
00:31:32,591 --> 00:31:35,420
Oh, as soon as she sees
the center ladies,
678
00:31:35,420 --> 00:31:38,510
she'll perk up, as--as soon
as she sees her friends.
679
00:31:38,510 --> 00:31:40,425
Nana, you love your program, huh?
680
00:31:42,949 --> 00:31:45,386
Nana.
681
00:31:48,259 --> 00:31:49,956
Okay, we're here.
682
00:31:57,007 --> 00:32:01,272
Hi, everybody!
Did you meet my daughter?
683
00:32:01,272 --> 00:32:04,275
- This is Olivia's granddaughter.
- Yes.
684
00:32:04,275 --> 00:32:06,973
- Nice to meet you.
- Nice to meet you guys.
685
00:32:06,973 --> 00:32:09,280
My grandma loves coming here
so much.
686
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,847
She loves you guys so much.
687
00:32:11,847 --> 00:32:14,328
I'm gonna come sit right here.
688
00:32:14,328 --> 00:32:16,548
What are you guys playing?
689
00:32:16,548 --> 00:32:19,943
So, when Marie calls,
like, a 5 of Clubs,
690
00:32:19,943 --> 00:32:21,422
you put it in here.
691
00:32:21,422 --> 00:32:23,642
Oh, okay.
692
00:32:23,642 --> 00:32:26,775
What are we playing for?
Are we playing for money?
693
00:32:29,082 --> 00:32:31,432
Oh, we're playing for Coke. Okay.
694
00:32:31,432 --> 00:32:32,738
Here we go.
695
00:32:32,738 --> 00:32:36,568
King of Spades.
We're right out of the gate.
696
00:32:36,568 --> 00:32:38,048
Right out the gate
with the King,
697
00:32:38,048 --> 00:32:40,006
ladies and gentlemen,
698
00:32:40,006 --> 00:32:42,617
- Jack of Clubs.
- Jack of Clubs.
699
00:32:44,706 --> 00:32:46,578
- Me.
- Oh, Nana!
700
00:32:46,578 --> 00:32:47,753
Yay!
701
00:32:49,233 --> 00:32:51,844
You're the best dealer.
She's got the energy.
702
00:32:51,844 --> 00:32:53,759
Okay...
703
00:32:53,759 --> 00:32:57,067
I'm out. Mom, do you wanna
go get some coffee? Okay.
704
00:32:59,156 --> 00:33:01,506
You know what?
I think you can find a man here.
705
00:33:01,506 --> 00:33:03,377
- Oh, my gosh.
- Come and scope out
706
00:33:03,377 --> 00:33:05,075
the senior citizens?
- What about the one--
707
00:33:05,075 --> 00:33:09,035
Oh, the cutest one is leaving.
He's leaving. Story of my life.
708
00:33:09,035 --> 00:33:11,516
- Go get his number.
- Shut up.
709
00:33:11,516 --> 00:33:12,952
Oh, my gosh.
710
00:33:12,952 --> 00:33:14,867
I had a date Thursday that
I have to tell you about.
711
00:33:14,867 --> 00:33:16,869
- Oh, God.
- Yeah.
712
00:33:16,869 --> 00:33:18,044
Okay, let's sit down.
713
00:33:18,044 --> 00:33:20,307
- 2 of Clubs.
- All right,
714
00:33:20,307 --> 00:33:22,875
can I tell you about my date?
- How old is he?
715
00:33:22,875 --> 00:33:25,356
He's two years younger than me,
so he's close to my age.
716
00:33:25,356 --> 00:33:27,184
- That's good.
- Yeah.
717
00:33:27,184 --> 00:33:29,534
- 'Cause they never...
- Hey.
718
00:33:29,534 --> 00:33:32,885
Uh, anyway, so he hits me up
719
00:33:32,885 --> 00:33:36,367
on Thursday, and he invited me
to spend the weekend with him.
720
00:33:36,367 --> 00:33:39,370
- Did you have fun?
- He ghosted me.
721
00:33:40,545 --> 00:33:42,590
You must have done something.
722
00:33:42,590 --> 00:33:46,942
- I did.
- Queen of Diamonds!
723
00:33:46,942 --> 00:33:50,076
- What did you do?
- I told him...
724
00:33:50,076 --> 00:33:52,600
Queen of Hearts. Yeah.
725
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:53,819
What?
726
00:33:53,819 --> 00:33:57,083
That even though
I'm not Mormon anymore,
727
00:33:57,083 --> 00:33:58,737
I'm still celibate.
728
00:33:58,737 --> 00:34:00,391
Mom!
729
00:34:00,391 --> 00:34:02,523
I don't believe
in sex before marriage.
730
00:34:02,523 --> 00:34:03,568
Mom.
731
00:34:03,568 --> 00:34:05,918
It is confusing that she is
732
00:34:05,918 --> 00:34:10,879
still following the doctrine
but has left the Church.
733
00:34:10,879 --> 00:34:14,361
Somehow I think it makes her
feel like a-a better person.
734
00:34:14,361 --> 00:34:16,102
Okay, I may be doing this,
or I may be doing that,
735
00:34:16,102 --> 00:34:18,322
but I'm not having sex
before marriage.
736
00:34:18,322 --> 00:34:21,107
Do you still consider
yourself Mormon?
737
00:34:21,107 --> 00:34:24,850
I struggle with it, genuinely.
738
00:34:24,850 --> 00:34:27,896
Do you want to raise the girls
in the Church?
739
00:34:27,896 --> 00:34:33,641
Because I believe wholeheartedly
that those girls need Jesus.
740
00:34:35,121 --> 00:34:36,731
- They need scripture.
- Okay, but do you realize--
741
00:34:36,731 --> 00:34:38,559
They need prayer.
They need to learn how to pray.
742
00:34:38,559 --> 00:34:41,084
Okay, stop. Stop. For real.
743
00:34:41,084 --> 00:34:43,608
Because when you left
the Church, you came to me,
744
00:34:43,608 --> 00:34:45,653
and you apologized
for raising me in the Church.
745
00:34:45,653 --> 00:34:47,612
- No, I didn't.
- Yes, you did.
746
00:34:47,612 --> 00:34:50,919
You were like, "I'm so sorry
that I raised you in this."
747
00:34:50,919 --> 00:34:52,660
I don't remember that.
748
00:34:52,660 --> 00:34:54,880
That's wild, because I will
never forget that.
749
00:34:56,577 --> 00:34:58,449
- Um...
- But now you want me
750
00:34:58,449 --> 00:35:00,581
to raise my kids in it.
Do you know what I'm saying?
751
00:35:00,581 --> 00:35:04,455
What I think is important
is family prayer.
752
00:35:04,455 --> 00:35:07,458
It's a joy to be the spiritual
leader of your family.
753
00:35:07,458 --> 00:35:10,200
- Okay.
- Every Sunday, we never missed.
754
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:11,984
- We went to church every Sunday.
- And guess what? Your daughter
755
00:35:11,984 --> 00:35:13,986
still got knocked up at 19.
- It was good--
756
00:35:13,986 --> 00:35:16,380
You are literally saying
757
00:35:16,380 --> 00:35:20,166
if you don't go to church
every Sunday,
758
00:35:20,166 --> 00:35:22,168
I'm raising my kids wrong.
759
00:35:22,168 --> 00:35:25,737
I do more with my kids
than you ever did with me,
760
00:35:25,737 --> 00:35:27,130
and that is a fact.
761
00:35:27,130 --> 00:35:29,958
- I was a single parent.
- I was a single parent!
762
00:35:29,958 --> 00:35:31,308
Making almost no money.
763
00:35:31,308 --> 00:35:33,658
I made $6.25 an hour
when I had Bri.
764
00:35:33,658 --> 00:35:35,747
I was on food stamps.
I was on state assistance.
765
00:35:35,747 --> 00:35:36,965
I was on all the things.
766
00:35:36,965 --> 00:35:39,316
We need to stop having
a pissing contest.
767
00:35:39,316 --> 00:35:41,840
I'm your mother.
I am not your equal.
768
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,494
- Mom--
- There has to be boundaries.
769
00:35:43,494 --> 00:35:46,149
- You don't wanna go there.
- I do.
770
00:35:46,149 --> 00:35:47,498
Okay, let's talk
about a boundary
771
00:35:47,498 --> 00:35:49,500
that you literally cannot learn,
772
00:35:49,500 --> 00:35:52,285
which is don't just walk
into my house. You just walk in.
773
00:35:52,285 --> 00:35:54,287
I knock,
and nobody answers the door.
774
00:35:54,287 --> 00:35:57,812
I could be having sex,
69 on the couch,
775
00:35:57,812 --> 00:35:59,640
and you would just
walk in and see it,
776
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,207
and we would never
be the same again.
777
00:36:04,210 --> 00:36:06,604
4 of Clubs. All right.
778
00:36:06,604 --> 00:36:10,390
Lock your door if you're
gonna have 69 on the couch.
779
00:36:10,390 --> 00:36:12,784
I'm just saying.
Let's start with that one.
780
00:36:12,784 --> 00:36:14,655
- That would be great.
- Okay, what else?
781
00:36:14,655 --> 00:36:15,917
Don't say nasty things about me.
782
00:36:15,917 --> 00:36:17,354
- Like what?
- Like when you forgot to hang up
783
00:36:17,354 --> 00:36:18,529
on me on the phone
the other day.
784
00:36:18,529 --> 00:36:20,574
I didn't know
you were on the phone.
785
00:36:20,574 --> 00:36:22,533
Recently, we were having
a disagreement.
786
00:36:22,533 --> 00:36:24,709
She thought
that the call dropped,
787
00:36:24,709 --> 00:36:27,668
and it hung up, and it did not.
788
00:36:27,668 --> 00:36:30,236
"You----ing piece of sh--.
789
00:36:30,236 --> 00:36:32,804
I hate your----ing guts,
790
00:36:32,804 --> 00:36:35,241
you----ing bitch.
791
00:36:35,241 --> 00:36:37,069
I----ing can't stand you."
792
00:36:37,069 --> 00:36:40,551
Nicki, on this place,
you don't talk dirty.
793
00:36:40,551 --> 00:36:42,030
That was your daughter.
That's what she said.
794
00:36:42,030 --> 00:36:43,771
I was repeating it, Nana.
795
00:36:43,771 --> 00:36:48,689
I don't care who is.
No dirty here.
796
00:36:48,689 --> 00:36:52,215
Mom, honestly...
797
00:36:52,215 --> 00:36:55,130
- It's not----ing funny.
- I'm so sorry.
798
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,569
I wish I could say
that was the first time
799
00:36:58,569 --> 00:37:02,834
that had happened or that
that wasn't normal, um...
800
00:37:02,834 --> 00:37:07,621
but that's very on par for...
my mom.
801
00:37:07,621 --> 00:37:10,668
Like, in my worst days
when I'm upset,
802
00:37:10,668 --> 00:37:14,019
I don't talk about hating
my children's----ing guts.
803
00:37:14,019 --> 00:37:15,847
I really don't. I've never--
804
00:37:15,847 --> 00:37:18,328
Like, I can't even imagine
saying that.
805
00:37:18,328 --> 00:37:20,504
Yeah.
806
00:37:20,504 --> 00:37:22,810
Ace of Hearts!
807
00:37:22,810 --> 00:37:25,073
It's me!
808
00:37:38,043 --> 00:37:39,436
Hi!
809
00:37:39,436 --> 00:37:41,829
Who's this cool girl
sitting over here?
810
00:37:41,829 --> 00:37:43,788
I did--
I did not even recognize you.
811
00:37:43,788 --> 00:37:45,659
Yeah, I'm--Really?
812
00:37:45,659 --> 00:37:47,313
I've tried to turn up.
813
00:37:47,313 --> 00:37:49,184
Your boots match
your entire fit, too.
814
00:37:49,184 --> 00:37:50,795
I love it.
815
00:37:50,795 --> 00:37:53,188
I wouldn't want to ski with you
if you weren't matching.
816
00:37:53,188 --> 00:37:55,103
- Solid?
- Solid.
817
00:37:58,542 --> 00:38:01,371
You are going to fly.
Fly by.
818
00:38:06,854 --> 00:38:09,117
Oh, we should hit
that little jump.
819
00:38:17,604 --> 00:38:20,520
That's kind of
a cool little contraption.
820
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,000
- Yeah.
- I'll give myself a break, too.
821
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,218
Gonna give a break? Yeah.
822
00:38:23,218 --> 00:38:25,917
- Does that feel better?
- Yeah. Thank you.
823
00:38:25,917 --> 00:38:28,659
- Fun party the other day.
- Oh, Lisa's party?
824
00:38:28,659 --> 00:38:30,225
- Yeah.
- Did you have a good time?
825
00:38:30,225 --> 00:38:33,881
I mean, I had fun until the end.
It was crazy.
826
00:38:33,881 --> 00:38:36,406
I know. Well, I talked to Lisa
about Jack going on his mission
827
00:38:36,406 --> 00:38:38,016
at the Aprés Ski,
and she was like,
828
00:38:38,016 --> 00:38:39,887
"You're the last person
I've told."
829
00:38:39,887 --> 00:38:41,541
And I was like,
why didn't she wanna tell me?
830
00:38:41,541 --> 00:38:43,413
I know more about missions
than anybody here.
831
00:38:43,413 --> 00:38:45,893
Why was I the last to know?
832
00:38:45,893 --> 00:38:48,896
It seems like it's just like
a sore spot for you.
833
00:38:48,896 --> 00:38:51,246
- Like, it does it bug you?
- It doesn't bug you?
834
00:38:51,246 --> 00:38:53,161
I don't really care.
835
00:38:53,161 --> 00:38:56,121
Like, honestly, good for him.
836
00:38:56,121 --> 00:38:58,602
- Good for him?
- Yeah.
837
00:38:58,602 --> 00:39:00,212
- Why?
- I think that he's doing
838
00:39:00,212 --> 00:39:04,259
what he thinks is good for him
at this point in his life.
839
00:39:05,913 --> 00:39:07,741
And you don't have
any global feelings about that
840
00:39:07,741 --> 00:39:09,700
in terms of, like,
the Mormon Church?
841
00:39:09,700 --> 00:39:12,180
Oh, I have global feelings
about the Mormon Church,
842
00:39:12,180 --> 00:39:13,617
but I don't really think
843
00:39:13,617 --> 00:39:16,359
about Jack and his relationship
with the church.
844
00:39:16,359 --> 00:39:18,926
Whitney choosing to say,
"Good for him" makes no sense.
845
00:39:18,926 --> 00:39:20,406
It's absurd.
846
00:39:20,406 --> 00:39:22,277
How can the Church be
this horrible, traumatic thing
847
00:39:22,277 --> 00:39:23,888
that's ruined your life,
848
00:39:23,888 --> 00:39:25,455
that you wrote a letter
to get away from...
849
00:39:25,455 --> 00:39:28,632
- Heather.
- You printed it?
850
00:39:28,632 --> 00:39:30,590
This is the letter.
851
00:39:32,418 --> 00:39:34,028
...but also be good for him
852
00:39:34,028 --> 00:39:36,727
to go out there and convert
more people to live it?
853
00:39:36,727 --> 00:39:38,032
You don't feel
conflicted about it when
854
00:39:38,032 --> 00:39:40,818
he's actually gonna, like,
go door to door...
855
00:39:40,818 --> 00:39:43,429
telling people to join
the Mormon Church
856
00:39:43,429 --> 00:39:45,431
when you've just left it?
857
00:39:45,431 --> 00:39:46,954
If I'm hearing you,
do you feel like
858
00:39:46,954 --> 00:39:48,608
it's just, like,
hypocritical? Is that...
859
00:39:48,608 --> 00:39:50,567
No, I just think, like,
we are...
860
00:39:50,567 --> 00:39:52,090
- Like, he should be--
- ...acting all supportive
861
00:39:52,090 --> 00:39:53,613
and excited about a guy
that's gonna go out there
862
00:39:53,613 --> 00:39:57,051
and sell a church that we know
can be very destructive
863
00:39:57,051 --> 00:39:59,271
and not give them
any of the details,
864
00:39:59,271 --> 00:40:00,925
just have them sign
on the dotted line,
865
00:40:00,925 --> 00:40:03,231
because that's what we do
as missionaries.
866
00:40:03,231 --> 00:40:04,755
And I'm conflicted because I--
867
00:40:04,755 --> 00:40:06,626
of course,
I had good experiences
868
00:40:06,626 --> 00:40:08,367
and learned a language
and got to see France
869
00:40:08,367 --> 00:40:09,803
and have all these things
870
00:40:09,803 --> 00:40:11,239
that didn't ruin my life
on my mission,
871
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,721
but I also had to convince
people who didn't want
872
00:40:14,721 --> 00:40:17,594
to change their lives
to join the Mormon Church,
873
00:40:17,594 --> 00:40:19,770
and I feel shame about that.
874
00:40:19,770 --> 00:40:22,337
Like, I feel bad that I changed
875
00:40:22,337 --> 00:40:25,515
and ruined a lot of people's
lives with such conviction.
876
00:40:25,515 --> 00:40:26,907
- Yeah.
- And if he was recruiting
877
00:40:26,907 --> 00:40:29,780
for another institution
that had the same issues,
878
00:40:29,780 --> 00:40:33,000
we would not be like,
"I don't care. To each his own."
879
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,828
What do you expect me to do,
go knock on the door
880
00:40:34,828 --> 00:40:37,527
and be like, "Stop this"?
881
00:40:39,137 --> 00:40:41,139
I feel like we're not being
honest about Church history,
882
00:40:41,139 --> 00:40:44,664
that it's homophobic,
883
00:40:44,664 --> 00:40:45,926
that it disacknowledges
any sort of transgender.
884
00:40:45,926 --> 00:40:48,799
It just says it doesn't exist.
885
00:40:48,799 --> 00:40:50,844
These are my feelings
about the Church.
886
00:40:50,844 --> 00:40:52,280
I know that they're
not everyone's feelings
887
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,196
about the Church,
but they are Whitney's,
888
00:40:55,196 --> 00:40:57,851
from what she's expressed to me
and what we have discussed
889
00:40:57,851 --> 00:41:00,811
and what we have cried about
and bonded over,
890
00:41:00,811 --> 00:41:02,595
she felt the very same way.
891
00:41:02,595 --> 00:41:04,597
- It's completely...
- Sexist,
892
00:41:04,597 --> 00:41:07,034
...sexist, misogynistic, bigoted,
893
00:41:07,034 --> 00:41:09,297
and it has a horrible,
problematic, racist history.
894
00:41:09,297 --> 00:41:12,039
And so I feel like
I'm in this, like, zone
895
00:41:12,039 --> 00:41:14,477
of where I'm trying to,
like, form a new identity
896
00:41:14,477 --> 00:41:17,915
in a community that's
telling me that I'm wrong.
897
00:41:17,915 --> 00:41:20,047
And that's how I feel
writing this book.
898
00:41:20,047 --> 00:41:22,310
Like, I feel like
I walk into a room,
899
00:41:22,310 --> 00:41:25,226
and everybody, like,
assumes I'm their enemy.
900
00:41:25,226 --> 00:41:26,967
And I feel like
that's kind of how Lisa felt.
901
00:41:26,967 --> 00:41:28,447
She didn't want to tell me
about Jack's mission
902
00:41:28,447 --> 00:41:30,318
'cause she assumed I was
gonna feel a certain kind of way
903
00:41:30,318 --> 00:41:32,059
'cause I wrote
a certain kind of book.
904
00:41:32,059 --> 00:41:33,496
It's interesting
that you say that,
905
00:41:33,496 --> 00:41:36,368
because I was with Lisa
and Ange the other day,
906
00:41:36,368 --> 00:41:39,980
and Lisa had this major reaction
907
00:41:39,980 --> 00:41:42,069
to hearing that Angie
came over to your house.
908
00:41:42,069 --> 00:41:44,245
She got mad
that Angie came to my house?
909
00:41:44,245 --> 00:41:47,118
Yes. I think she was, like,
jealous. Like, she was hurt.
910
00:41:48,728 --> 00:41:50,034
I'm really confused by Lisa.
911
00:41:50,034 --> 00:41:51,601
I don't know
what she wants from me.
912
00:41:51,601 --> 00:41:54,342
If she wants to, like, have
a compassionate friendship,
913
00:41:54,342 --> 00:41:56,519
you'd think she would tell me
about Jack's mission
914
00:41:56,519 --> 00:41:59,260
and include me in all of that,
but she didn't.
915
00:41:59,260 --> 00:42:02,133
But she's upset that I would
extend myself to Angie.
916
00:42:02,133 --> 00:42:04,918
Like, she was really,
like, butthurt about it.
917
00:42:04,918 --> 00:42:07,660
I've never seen
anything like it before.
918
00:42:11,055 --> 00:42:14,188
Next time on "The Real
Housewives of Salt Lake City"...
919
00:42:14,188 --> 00:42:16,756
Monica came to me like,
"I'm your friend.
920
00:42:16,756 --> 00:42:19,280
I wanna tell this rumor to you."
921
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,109
She's not your friend.
That's the bottom line.
922
00:42:22,109 --> 00:42:24,111
I don't break down
and cry very often.
923
00:42:24,111 --> 00:42:25,852
and to see your wedding ring
in the drawer every day,
924
00:42:25,852 --> 00:42:27,724
that hurts me.
925
00:42:30,553 --> 00:42:33,338
I just wanted to start off
by welcoming everyone
926
00:42:33,338 --> 00:42:34,992
to our Greek Easter lunch.
927
00:42:34,992 --> 00:42:37,429
Your experience
growing up in the Church
928
00:42:37,429 --> 00:42:39,474
was totally different
than my experience.
929
00:42:39,474 --> 00:42:41,520
You can't tell me that you have
a different level of Mormonism.
930
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:42,826
Our Mormonism is the same.
931
00:42:42,826 --> 00:42:45,263
You wrote a book
about being a bad Mormon.
932
00:42:45,263 --> 00:42:47,482
I'm focused on my kid
being a good Mormon.
933
00:42:47,482 --> 00:42:49,963
Difference between you and me
is I don't----ing hide it.
934
00:42:49,963 --> 00:42:52,966
Everyone here is talking sh--
behind your back.
935
00:42:52,966 --> 00:42:56,666
I'm the only one
saying it to your face.
936
00:42:56,666 --> 00:42:59,494
Tell her to stop it!
937
00:42:59,494 --> 00:43:00,931
Are you serious?!
938
00:43:00,931 --> 00:43:03,237
What is happening?