Previously on "The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City"...
Well, welcome back
to "Hanging by a Thread with Meredith and Seth Marks."
People are delusional if they don't think marriage
is hanging by a thread at every second. [laughs]
It's always hanging by a thread.
To see your wedding ring in the drawer every day--
that hurts me.
We are not the same people that we were
when we got married 14 years ago.
I don't know what to do to fix that core connection.
I'm in weird position because I'm trying to build
a friendship back with Meredith, but, like, in my head,
I'm like, no, no, no, no. Pump the brakes.
What if we got everybody together and went to Bermuda,
like, for your birthday?
- Wait. I would die! - You have to make up with Lisa.
You don't know sh--. No! What about her?!
Monica, bring it down! You're being crazy.
- Opa! - I have never done
anything to her. - Be quiet for a minute!
♪
[doorbell rings]
♪
- Ange? I let myself in. - Hey! Just got us some plates...
- Sorry. - ...in time to break.
You ready for the, uh, celebration?
Like, coming to your house feels like an event 'cause your view.
Thank you. Hi. Welcome. Thanks for having me.
- Glad you're here. - Fancy. I love.
Just little snacks. Poured us some wine.
- Have a seat. - Bring it closer.
- I am serving you here. - Look at this waterfall bar top.
Waterfall bar top. Little glass of wine.
- To Pioneer Day. - To Pioneer Day.
- What a fun event. - We could use a drink
after that event. - That was wild.
♪
When did it go left?
Like, when Lisa kicked Monica off her wagon?
Wagon game. The minute we started the wagon game.
Lisa, who are you kicking off your wagon train?
The one that's the nastiest to women.
So, Monica, you would have to go.
I think it set her off. It's so...
It was like she just came in hot again with the insults.
- Okay, okay, okay. - You are so nasty on the inside.
LISA: Monica, the way you treated your mother--
You are so ugly.
And then, like, at some moment, she just completely shut down,
and it was weird.
I'm starting to realize that you
can never really count on what you're gonna get with Monica.
She could be up and happy and charming and fun.
That's got some girth, like... [laughs]
Holy crap.
...and then angry and vicious and mean.
Angie, you live up her ass, so stay there.
And then also just detached and vacant.
I need Monica to find her energy!
Whoo!
[sighs heavily]
And as much as I don't want it to, it...
kind of reminds me... of Jen.
[cheering]
- Shut the [bleep] up about Mary! - [glass shatters]
- Listen, wait, wait. - I'll be right back.
I'll be right back. [crying]
I'm drawn like a moth to the flame
with these personality types.
I've been burned, and I want to learn from my history
and not make the same mistakes again.
I don't--I can't figure her out, and I really, really like her.
And so I don't understand when it seems
like I can't get through to her.
Like, I've kind of jumped in like I always do,
like, headfirst, like... - Yeah.
-"I love you so much." [laughs] - I know. I know.
- That's who you are. - I'm your best friend.
And then I planned this trip with her,
which is, like, a big deal. I've never been to Bermuda.
Like, I want it to be a fun trip.
I don't feel like trashing the trip or, like, throwing it away,
but I'm worried that, like,
I don't want Pioneer Day part two to happen in Bermuda.
Yeah.
That's her pattern, is like, she kind of comes in hot,
and then she feels bad or embarrassed...
- Yeah. - ...and apologizes.
Like, I think we need to go on the trip,
but I think you need to call her before we go,
just work through it, talk to her and, like...
- Talk to her one on one. - Yeah.
I'm sure I'm gonna see her at Meredith's jewelry event.
The one that I'm not invited to, that I've heard all about.
Everyone's invited except me, which is fine.
Let me know how it goes.
Like, I'm really curious to see how...
Well, the trip is hanging in the balance, truly.
♪
It's that awkward?
Sometimes I feel like,
does therapy help or make it worse?
Both. It makes it worse for the short term, I think.
Well, we--when we were talking about finances and bills and...
- Yeah. - ...like, how I handle all that,
and then he's like, "All right, don't have that conversation."
- Like... - He shut you down.
He shut me down, and it's almost like,
is the therapist stirring the pot or helping us?
Where are you at? Do you feel like it's helping?
I don't know, like, I... Like, I still...
My favorite thing is when we talk it through
with other couples, like, even Meredith and Seth.
After I stopped working,
I realized she's going through her own trauma.
And part of that is, like, isolating me.
- Two drowning people... - ...can't save each other.
SETH: You got it.
You'll just pull each other down.
And then it didn't hurt that Seth
had my back on most things. - [cellphone buzzes]
[chuckles]
So, you're looking for validation.
[laughs] No.
I just got a really bad message.
What?
Shari's being intubated.
No.
I mean, I was with her on Monday, J.,
and she couldn't even get off the couch.
I have known Shari since I was 23 years old,
and she's been to all the major events in my life.
- I know. You're gonna be... - Yeah.
- I'm so excited for you. - Aw.
Shari! You've outdone yourself, darling.
You look amazing!
She's been fighting cancer.
It's the most helpless feeling to know
that my friend is suffering,
and I can't do anything about it.
And I have no idea how to cope with that.
I'm trying not to cry, J., but I'm worried...
like, I think I'm-- like, we're losing her.
Yeah.
[sniffles] And on Monday, when I sat with her,
like, that's what we talked about, was, like,
how she knows death is here.
[sniffles and sighs]
Stick to my stomach.
My best friend is dying of cancer.
Like, when you really, like,
take a look around and see, like,
the bigger picture, like, us just not seeing eye to eye,
like, is it really that bad of a thing?
It definitely seems like our problems are pretty trivial.
Well, I think as long as we both still want to be married,
then we're winning.
[chuckles]
I've been married 14 years now,
and we've come so far
working through communication breakdowns,
working through how has my trauma bled into the marriage?
We've been working on so many things.
But, like, knowing that each other are still in it
makes it easier to work for it.
If you're willing to fight, then you can get through anything.
So, we're both still fighting, right?
I think so. I'm still fighting.
♪
- Hi. How are you? - Welcome to Toscano.
- Doing well. How are you? - Good.
- I'm meeting a girlfriend here. - Just the two of you today?
- Yeah. - Follow me.
♪
- I'm meeting someone here. - All right.
Is it this lady in red?
Yes, the lady in red, exactly. [laughs]
Hey.
Right? I mean, the red, white, and blue.
We got it covered.
Did you bring me fresh churned butter?
- Oh, my gosh. - Hi, ladies.
- Hi. - Hey, how are you?
- Welcome to Toscano. - Thank you.
Do you guys have any drinks in mind?
- I wanna do the Vida Sunset. - You got it.
You know what? I'll just do a glass of cabernet, please.
Are you guys ready for food?
- Um, spicy fig prosciutto pizza. - Okay.
And I'll do the mussels and the truffle fries, please.
I'll take these menus out of your way.
- May I give that to you? - Absolutely.
- Thank you so much. - What was in there?
Look, you go with your Diet Cokes.
- [laughs] - I get very dehydrated.
I get all kinds of muscle cramps.
You were having those in, um, Palm Springs.
- My hands. - Yes.
Are those yours? Your earrings?
This is part of the new collection.
Oh, wait, let me see it.
- So, it's all, um, plated. - Oh, that's amazing.
- Yeah. - Oh!
[singsongy] Now you'll get to see it all pretty soon.
Oh, nice. I'm excited about your event tomorrow.
I'm excited to see all your new pieces. I love these.
- Thank you. - They're, like, gorgeous.
- Tequila for you. - Oh, my gosh. Thank you.
You're welcome. Here's that cabernet.
- Thank you. Cheers. - Cheers.
- [clink] - All right. Here's the mussels.
- Oh, my gosh. Thank you. - Thank you.
- These look delicious. - Mussels for you.
Oh, wow. Thank you so much.
Did you and Monica get to a place of peace?
I think so. I don't get--I don't even know what the issue is.
It's frustrating to even have a conversation with her
because they don't go anywhere. They don't go anywhere.
It's this, "You're ugly. Fix your----ing face.
Get some Botox. Girl, get some filler."
Like, I'm at a different stage in my life.
I've never talked like that to another woman, though.
- Neither have I. - In my life.
You know, you can't keep attacking somebody
and expect them to just sit there
and take it all the time. She's--
There's so much low-hanging fruit around Monica.
Like, if I wanted to attack, it wouldn't be hard.
So, I do want to clear the air on something.
I'm not upset, angry. I just need to understand
- Okay. - ...what was said because
I was a little perplexed by it. - Okay.
Did you tell Angie that I threatened her?
No, I didn't tell you threatened her.
I said you said she's lucky.
What's the word?
Whatever you said to me outside of the restaurant.
if I want to go for the jugular and talk about this sh--,
the rumors, the nastiness about her,
I can do that, and you know what?
You want me to go there with her husband?
I can go there.
She's not spreading rumors.
She's dropping the grenade by saying,
"She's lucky I didn't say the things I know
about her husband," something like that.
Well, that's making accusations.
That's what I thought. I wanted to check in.
Only because it's very interesting,
because some of the wording
you just said to me regarding Monica--
that's what made me think of it right now...
- Okay, yeah, that she's lucky. - ...was very similar
to the message I gave you, which is, you know,
there's a lot of stuff out there about everybody,
but Angie was accusing me of threatening her...
No, I didn't just say the same thing.
...and that's not a threat.
I didn't just say the same thing.
The whole thing with Angie, I don't like the even,
"Do you want me to say what I know about her husband?"
Do you know what I mean? Like things like that,
I don't want anyone saying that about you.
I think it's disgusting. I don't like it.
It feels very, like, icky,
and I don't want to be around this anymore. I just don't.
I'm really disappointed because Lisa and I agreed
to discuss issues as they came up.
Moving forward, we communicate, you know,
and if you're sensing something, tell me.
I agree.
So, I don't know what's going on here,
but it's definitely unsettling, and it doesn't feel good,
and it's not what we agreed on.
For me, it was very triggering.
Well, I'm sorry that it was triggering for you,
but what I'm not gonna do
is have this, like, hypocritical conversation.
What you're telling me is going on with Monica is
she's playing victim to...
your reaction to her bad behavior.
- Yeah, in my opinion. - That's what you're saying.
And that is called manipulation.
Yes, it felt manipulated.
That's exactly what Angie did to me.
And for her to now play victim
to my reaction to her bad behavior,
it's called manipulation and gaslighting.
You had an issue with Angie because she said she would
never be friends with someone like you,
and then you took it up eight levels and said
you know things about her husband,
her family, her business, and the bottom line is,
that's not what's happening with me and Monica.
Monica's just being a bitch. You're being deceptive.
There's nothing out there about her, though, and just like--
Well, there is stuff out there about her. That's not true.
There's just, like, there's stuff.
Because I've been sent stuff. There is.
I just think, like, even saying it is just as bad because it
leaves people's minds to wander and look at what Monica--
Okay, you're living in la-la land, then, Lisa.
- No, I'm not. - 'Cause there's stuff
out there about me. There's stuff out there about you.
There's stuff out there about every single one of us.
It doesn't make it true.
- And it doesn't make it good. - And it doesn't make it good.
And it doesn't make it okay to threaten with it.
You can't use the word "threat." By definition, it's wrong.
So, by saying, I would never do that...
You're going off the word "intention."
- You're going off intention. - That's not my intention.
But you did. Whitney said that you said to her,
"I could ruin her life." - I could ruin anybody's life.
So could you. So could anybody under the sun.
We all could. That doesn't mean you're going to.
I don't even wanna talk about anybody else right now
but you and me.
I pumped the brakes, and I need to talk to you about it,
because we are friends,
and we're working on a new friendship
that's better than the last one.
Wait. I'm so confused.
Like, after Palm Springs, I pumped the brakes
because it evoked a lot of feelings in me
that I'm like, this is not something I like.
So, did you pump the brakes with Angie then, too?
No, I didn't pump the brakes with Angie, but I had a direct--
So, you were fine with the way she treats me,
but my reaction to it...
I'm not fine with the way she treats you.
...which was very minor in comparison
to the way she treated me,
caused you to pump the brakes with me.
I'm not getting in between you two.
You are supporting her, but pumping the brakes with me,
and that's the part I'm not understanding.
I'm not supporting her. I'm not supporting her. I didn't--
- I'm not supporting anything. - Let me make this clear.
I am not the one bringing the tornado through,
nor do I feel I need to be.
Because I know... karma comes back.
It does.
♪
- [doorbell rings] - Coming.
- Hi, gorgeous. - Oh!
How are you? You look so pretty.
- You look so pretty. - And you brought a gift?
That's nice. You didn't have to do that for me.
- Welcome to my home. - It's stunning!
Thank you. Yeah.
I've never been in this neighborhood before.
- I've been here 21 years. - Really? Oh, my gosh.
My son was 2 days old when we moved in.
Aw.
And we got it the year I was pregnant, so...
- Oh, my gosh. - He's 20.
It's beautiful.
I wanted to come and check on Mary.
I have missed her. [laughs] She always makes me smile.
I could have, like, had a buddy at some of this sh--.
- You want me to take your coat? - Oh, thank you!
I could have used some backup dressed up as a pioneer,
which we all know Mary would have been an amazing pioneer.
- You want cake? - Yes.
♪
- Is your cake good, by the way? - It's delicious.
- Okay, good. Thank you. - Did you make it?
- No, mnh-mnh. - Okay.
- Not even. I bought it. - It's delicious cake.
- Thank you. - So, how have you been?
- What's been going on with you? - I've been good.
Just trying to pace my time
and make sure that my sanity is protected. [chuckles]
Make sure I'm not losing my mind on anyone like I did.
A what?
Grow up, little girl, okay? I'm done.
- Mary. No. - Watch me walk out the door.
Okay. Bye.
- I get it. That's where I'm at. - Losing your mind?
Mm-hmm.
I know.
But I feel like Lisa was just relentless.
With Lisa, though, I feel like you both go back and forth.
Like, I feel like it's not just her.
- I feel like it's both of you. - I...I agree.
- Okay. - But I feel like...
she gets nasty, that one.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
I'm trying to figure out where her problem is with me.
Ever since that dinner in Palm Springs,
when I said she's materialistic.
I feel like I have just stayed under her skin.
What does she do to make you think that she's like that?
[imitating Lisa] "Oh, my God. Mary.
How many karats? Oh, this is your new Chanel?
Oh, my God." - Right?
"I love that. I love that. I love that."
And she tells you nothing about herself in the meantime.
"I love that. I love that." Like...
And then the rest, she's on mute.
You have to take her for who she is.
- Yeah. - It's gonna bother you
to hold a grudge. - Yeah.
It eats at people. Like, I think grudges eat at you.
Like, you should not be a grudge holder.
Mary can give wonderful advice. She gives great advice.
She might not be great at taking her own advice,
but, you know, those who can't do, teach.
- I'm just gonna apologize... - You have to.
- ...and move on. - And really mean it.
You can't just say things and just to say it, not with them.
- Right. - Yeah.
That's why I said she's wrinkly, and I meant it.
- But don't say that. - Okay. [snickers]
- That's--no, no. You can't do-- - Okay. I promise. I won't.
[laughs]
♪
[cellphone rings]
- Ange? - Hi.
Losing one of my best friends
has been so much harder...
[voice breaking] than I thought.
I've never lost someone that I love this much. [sniffles]
I received the call last night.
Found out that Shari passed away.
I've been in a fog and haven't known what to do.
It's just been really hard. Like, really hard.
- Yeah, I'm sure. - Thank you so much for calling.
Yeah.
I wanna stay home, but, like,
Shari is the type of friend that would go.
Shari literally came to my Prism event
the week before she passed.
Like, if Shari can show up to events fighting can--
fighting cancer and not feeling well,
then I can show up for Meredith.
And I think it'll be good to be around
my other friends.
Thank you so much, Ange.
Love you, too.
♪
- Let's check out some goods. - Oh, yeah.
- Hey. - How's it going?
- Good. How are you? - How are you?
- Good. How are you guys doing? - Good.
Fantastic.
We need to shop for our missionary.
Awesome. So where are you headed?
- Colombia, Bogotá. - Okay. Awesome.
While you're proselytizing,
you know, you got to wear slacks.
Though we do have some slacks that are, like,
kind of like a Lululemon, very stretchy.
Oh, I love that.
So, kind of help keep you more comfortable.
♪
But he can wear any of these colors?
Like, he can even wear, like, teal?
Some of these are--No.
So, this one's gonna be more for, like, a prom.
Typically, they want you to be more conservative.
He's going on a mission.
He's not going on a dance or whatever.
Yeah, they like to be on, like, the more conservative side.
- Yeah. - Okay.
Would you mind if I put my coat somewhere?
Yeah, we can totally drape it on the chair.
Thank you so much.
So, what's it saying?
Um, one suit, eight to 10 white shirts,
six to eight ties, three to five slacks.
Okay. See, like, I could see Jack, like...
Yeah, that's maybe if he was going to Vegas.
- What size of pants do you... - 32?
- Yeah, 32. - But he might get chubby
on his mission, so maybe a 33.
I like that one brown color pant
'cause I feel like it could be, like, total jungle chic.
- Oh, yeah. - Jungle chic?
I should have came with just that.
Camo.
Love that you guys took,
like, a more modern approach to suiting.
Yeah, we feel like missionaries don't need to look ugly.
Yeah, we don't need to, like, forget fashion.
I'm, like, going to...
you look like a cute little missionary.
I think you need the separation more than I do.
Why?
You're a lot.
- Is that a good thing? - Yeah.
I don't know if that's a good thing.
I love you so much, but I-I need the space.
- Wow, okay. - He's 18. He's ready.
Where were you when you were 18?
When you were 18, you're telling me stories
about how you were getting, like, Russian mobsters limos.
- Yeah, seriously. - Going to vacations all over,
like you left the nest. It's my turn to leave the nest.
- Okay. - Fly. Go. Get out.
It doesn't make it less hard for us.
You know what's gonna be hard for me?
Not having you here for Christmas,
not having you here for Thanksgiving.
That's gonna be sad.
You know, this mission for Jack is so personal,
and he's going for the right reasons.
He's going because he felt strongly
that this is the right decision for him.
He has everything at his fingertips.
He could be doing anything else in the whole entire world,
but he chose to go out there and connect with people,
share a message of love and kindness
and teach people about God.
As soon as he wakes up, until the time he goes to bed,
he is going to be serving others.
And as a mom, I couldn't be more proud of him.
Take the brown ones, too.
I'm gonna start crying in public.
No. But you love me.
I never got any of this when I left.
- They were just like, "See ya." - No, but do you remember
what you--do you remember what you used to say to me
when you were little? "My heart beats to mom, to mom."
Like... I feel like just yesterday I brought you home
and was playing in the playground with you.
I think it'll be good for me to leave
'cause then I'll come back, and you'll look at me,
not as your little baby, but as an actual adult.
♪
Going and living in a poor country for two years,
I'll come back and I'll be able to recognize all the good stuff.
- I hope so. - And like it even more.
Okay, hope so.
Here's a bet. What's the over/under
on how long until your mom stops crying after you leave?
- I'd say a week. - No.
- Up until I come home. - Pretty much, yeah.
Once in a while. It's 'cause she'll still be stuck with me.
[chuckles] That's true.
♪
Appreciate it.
♪
- What are you carrying? Hi. - Hi.
- How are you? - Is that alcohol?
[singsongy] Surprise!
- Hi. - Oh, you look so pretty.
- How are you? - [sighs] Girl, I'm okay.
- You good? - Yeah.
- How are you?
- I'm good. - Okay.
- Hanging in. Let's get a drink. - Hi.
I saw this, uh, Chardonnay called Bread and Butter.
- Can I get a glass of that? - Can I do a Moscow Mule?
Thank you so much. It's my favorite drink.
- Okay, so... - What's the plan?
- Are you coming to Bermuda? - No, I'm not gonna go.
Okay.
- Just kidding. - Oh, I was like, great.
But you took that way too well, you bitch.
Yeah, 'cause I just felt bad after our luncheon.
It felt like you were down.
That was a really difficult... meal for me.
The way you treated your mother--
Shut up! You don't know sh-- about my mom.
You don't know sh-- about my mom.
Wait, wait, wait. Monica, Monica.
- You don't know sh--. No! - Monica.
Come for her!
- You're dishing it out. - Yeah.
- You have to take it. - That's fair.
- You were upset, rightfully so. - I was trying to guide you
with tough love out, which I won't do again.
The best thing that I could have done
in that situation for me, was...
Yeah.
I owe you the biggest apology.
I am so sorry.
I was so honored and so excited to do this with you,
and I completely let you down.
It's okay.
Monica's being so apologetic, but she also has shown
that she has a dark side. Like...
I mean, I like Monica a lot as a person.
But I can't help it that there are
alarm bells going off.
So, what's our game plan?
- 'Cause we wanna host this trip. - I wanna be nice.
I have some things I've planned.
Be nice? That's like baseline.
I really wanna have a good time.
- To new things. - To new things.
To turning over new leaves.
To not getting mad about everything.
[laughs]
And not calling women ugly or old.
- We are middle-aged. - That's a fact.
I know. No one wants to be reminded of that ever.
♪
- You ready? - I am very ready.
♪
Yes.
Tonight is a soft introduction to the collection
Plated by Meredith Marks. Plated is supposed to be fun.
It's supposed to be affordable. It's supposed to be for people
who maybe can't afford to buy the fine jewelry.
So, I want to see how it's received
by people that I know and love
before I put it out into the universe for everybody.
Claudia, can you remove
the empty necks from the table, please?
Girl, I can't get through if you have the box.
- Okay, I'm sorry. - So, like,
we have to go single file.
- Which would you like? - Or do we need to pick?
HEATHER: Are we in the right place? Hello.
- Hi! - Oh!
I was waiting to see what you put on your plates.
- MONICA: Look at you! - And see if you want,
if I could add anything To the buffet bar.
What is that?
It's your butter? I knew you'd be excited.
I didn't think you'd be that excited.
So, we are going to churn butter by hand.
I'm just gonna keep churning forever.
- I am so excited! - Hi! How are you?
You look gorge.
Hi! How are you? Thank you. Thank you.
♪
- [singsongy] I know these girls! - How are you?
- How are you? Hi. I'm Lisa. - Hi. Melissa.
Nice to meet you, Melissa.
So, on the gray is all the fine jewelry,
and on the black is the new Plated collection.
♪
[singsongy] Hello!
You look beautiful.
- Thank you. - What's going on?
Are you all right? What's up?
Shari passed away yesterday.
- Oh, honey. - [glass clatters]
♪
I don't wanna put a rain cloud over your event.
I just wanted to show you my support.
I can't ruin your event, though. You gotta...
Here. I brought backups.
Thank you.
I tried so hard to rally.
I can't believe you did. Thank you. That was really nice.
I'm so sorry.
I feel horrible for Whitney, you know?
I can't...
imagine losing a friend, and her showing up today
really means something, you know?
It's been a lot of ups and downs between us.
I feel like we've been on a path to repair,
and her making the effort to come today really means a lot.
I'm so sorry.
♪
Okay, I got you. I got you.
You look so----ing suave.
- Yeah, well, look at you. - No, you look--I love this.
- What's new with you guys? - Not much.
I'm trying to decide if
it's a good idea or bad idea if I drink.
Won't it relax you a little bit?
Well, Shari would want me to have.
That's what I said. What would Shari want?
Okay, what would Shari want for you?
She would want me on the table dancing, breaking glasses.
Then that's what we're gonna do.
Cheers.
- I need to give Whitney a hug. - Come on in.
- My friend. This is... - I know Shari...
Come here. So sorry. How are you?
It's gonna be okay.
[sighs] Thank you.
Hey, guys.
Hi! Oh, my gosh! You brought more presents?
Okay, so, 4/20. Her book-- her book party was on 4/20.
- On purpose. - So, I keep giving her--
whoa, cannabis gifts.
Yes. She's keeping me in, um, weed accessories.
She was--She was missing out.
I'm like the Bar-- the 4/20 Barbie.
Lisa and I had a problem two weeks ago.
I'm, like, mortified that the two of you
behaved that way at my, like, Prism event.
- Because, Lisa-- - I didn't start it.
I did not start. I don't care who started it.
Okay, so it's my fault Monica's ridiculous. Okay.
No, it's both of your fault.
But I thought we moved on.
In fact, Lisa was the first person I told
that Shari had passed.
This is for your hoodies.
[laughter]
For her to act like I'm not even existing right now,
it's hurtful.
♪
Thank you so much. Gazpacho shooters.
You're having all the fancy food.
♪
The more you buy, the more you save.
[amplified voice] I want to welcome you guys all.
Thank you for coming.
Meredith's gonna talk a little bit about
what we are featuring here, so here's Meredith Marks.
[cheers and applause]
[amplified voice] Thank you, Riley.
Thank you all for coming today.
I am super, super excited
to launch my new collection, Plated by Meredith Marks.
[cheers and applause] I just want to really thank,
first and foremost, my husband, Seth Marks.
- What?! - [cheers and applause]
Through this process that had a lot of frustrations,
he was always there to support me.
Never stopping, never putting the brakes on.
Love, support, everything.
- [laughter] - Yes, you.
[cheers and applause]
But the whole Plated collection ranges from about $50 to $500.
I'm really proud. I'm really excited.
Please feel free to come and try on.
Here we go.
Yes.
[applause]
♪
Whitney, Monica, girl.
- It's easily a "W." - This is pretty.
When I think Meredith, there's three things I think of.
Okay, what are you guys looking at?
- The Poison Ring and Stardust. - You have this one.
[sighs]
I can't get it back in, you guys.
I need an excuse to get out of here.
You can do it.
I'm gonna go say hi to John and Seth.
- I haven't seen them yet. - John and Seth?
- Yeah. - Okay.
♪
Okay. Lisa, I wanna tell you something,
and this is genuine.
When we had our first lunch together,
I really felt excited to have a relationship with you
and be able to bond, and I think we just got so far left,
and it got so ugly, and I'm owning my part in that.
- Right. - I fight very dirty,
and I say things I don't mean.
I don't ever want it to go that low again.
- I agree. - 'Cause we're smarter than that.
And I respect you. I... You do have...
You do a lot of things that I admire, like, truly.
You're an amazing mom.
You're really good at apologizing. [laughs]
- I'm being serious! - I know.
This is the one time where I'm like, "Keep talking, Monica.
Keep talking." You're like this. You're like, "Keep it coming."
I felt like you have a senior,
and you knew what I was going through with the mission.
Yes. Jack's going to Bogotá, Colombia.
so I'm like, yes, yes. - Stop! He's going to Colombia?
- Yeah, he's going to Colombia. - Nobody told me!
- Okay. You're finding out now. - That makes me wanna cry!
Yeah. Exciting.
The Colombian side of me is my dad.
And I'm like, I feel so disconnected from that.
- Yeah. - You know, a part of me
is missing that I don't know, and it's my Colombian side,
so that's really cool. - Yeah. Aw.
You've gone through trauma from what I'm understanding,
and I think I've had trauma in friendships.
And I think that once I start to see,
like, okay, then it's like, I pull back. And that's why--
Yeah. And that's why I apologize.
- Yeah. - Because I need to learn
a different way, 'cause that's how I was raised.
- We're fine. We're fine. - Okay.
- I feel like we are, right? - I feel good.
I always have to double-check.
♪
[laughs]
- We need a man for Heather. - Yes.
What is your perfect man? Stop compromising.
Why do you think my 24-year-olds are compromised, man?
I think that's brass ring.
What would the physical features of your Ken doll be?
He's faceless. He has a ski mask on.
Is there a therapist in the house?!
Can I--Can I steal you for a second?
- Yeah. - It's not serious,
but I just wanna ask one thing.
- Shut up! - Yeah.
Did you put her on a rowing machine?
- No. Yes. - Fake rowing machine.
And, like, I felt like the conversation was,
I mean, not the best, but I thought we left fine.
I mean... I just lost my best friend,
and life's too short.
Just forgive me. Like, I don't have the capacity
to deal with that right now. - Anything right now, okay.
Well, I don't wanna be insensitive. I was just asking.
But when you, like, walked up-- who's rubbing my back?
- Um, It's me. - Oh, hi.
I'm sorry, you guys.
I'm not--I have to interrupt for just a second.
- Okay. - 'Cause we just have to show
you guys something for, like, five minutes.
- Yeah. - Okay. Okay.
♪
Today is a hard day for Whitney. She just lost her friend.
- Oh, I know. I know. - I feel like I'm, like,
I don't know if I should talk to her or not talk to her.
- I know. - I don't know.
Okay. Okay, you guys, thank you for letting me
have just five minutes of your event.
- Of course. - I appreciate it.
I just wanted to give you guys some Bermuda rum.
- Oh! - ...which they are known
for their rum. - Oh, yeah, let's do that.
- And some... - Yeah, open that up.
- And these are... - Let's do that.
- There's some rum. - These are malasadas.
- MEREDITH: Malasadas. - Oh, my gosh.
- We're going to rum country. - Portuguese pastries, you guys.
I really am excited about Bermuda.
My family is from there, and I have family there now.
It's very special to me. My grandma was born there.
My great-grandma and great-grandpa moved there
to, like, build up Bermuda. - That's amazing.
And I still have cousins and uncles there,
so I'm gonna meet up with my family.
- That's so cool. - Yeah, I'm excited.
This isn't just a girls trip. It's also the chance
to reconnect and meet up with my family on my mother's side.
It's just very special to me
because growing up without a father,
I feel like half of me is completely missing.
So I treasure anything I do know about where I come from.
- Cheers to Bermuda, bitches. - Whoo!
- Bermuda! - Cheers to Bermuda!
- Ay-yi-yi-yi. - That's so sweet.
This is cool. Thank you for doing this.
You're welcome. I really did put a lot of thought into this
'cause I really did wanna apologize. I'm sorry.
- No, that was super sweet. - And thoughtful.
- I believe you. - And, like, on point
- Yes! - ...for what's to come.
You, like, nailed it home.
Good job. Bounce back. Bounce back, girl. You did it.
Food and rum, bitch.
♪
- What's new with you guys? - The whole Jack mission thing--
I'm--I'm--I'm obsessed with it. - [laughs]
♪
I've actually never lost a best friend.
I'm so, so sorry. Oh.
Excuse me!
Hi. I am so sorry.
- These are not for free. - Really?
Yeah, they were a gift. Sorry to be the mean one
to take away the treats. - Oh, no worries.
Actually, one of the girls didn't show today,
so you can have her box. - Oh, thank you.
And would you also like a bottle of rum?
Because they go hand-in-hand, combo.
- Thank you. - [bell dings]
♪
Hey, Whitney, are you doing okay?
No.
I think dealing with... death is difficult,
and you don't know how to approach it with people.
I'm sorry you lost someone so important to you.
Like, it hurts when you walk up and go right past me
and go straight to Heather with gifts.
- Like, "Oh, my God, Heather." - No.
"Oh, my God. I love you. Here's these gifts."
And then you look at me and you're like, "Are you okay?"
- And I'm like, no, I'm not. - No, I'm just--
I need you to hug me. I need you to acknowledge
that I lost my best friend. - Okay, I'm here.
I'm sorry about that, Whitney.
♪
- Look at this bling. - I----ing love it.
Like, it hurts when you walk up and go right past me
and go straight to Heather with gifts.
And then you look at me and you're like, "Are you okay?
- And I'm like... - No.
No, I need you to acknowledge that I lost my best friend.
No, I'm sorry about that, Whitney.
I can't always keep a mental calculator
of everything going on
for everyone at all times and in all moments.
I've been talking to you about it for the last five days,
and, bitch, I texted you last night.
Does she need an abacus to keep track of that?
It was less than 24 hours ago.
It wasn't about lack of concern for you.
Whitney, you're always-- you're always important.
- No, it's not that. It's-- - You're always important.
That's why I would just
expect you to come to me first, not Heather.
I texted you last night.
Like, I didn't text and tell everyone.
And I responded. Like, I texted you back.
I know you responded, but, like, the fact
that I reached out to you to say, hey,
"This is what I'm going through,"
and you were more excited about giving Heather a gift...
- No. - ...than, like, comforting me.
- No, no, no, that's not-- - That's--
- That's not what happened. - That's what happened.
I was not more excited about giving--
- I was-- - Whitney.
Well, that's how it appeared to me, Lisa.
Okay, that's not how it was intended.
I tried to just suck it up, but, like...
Okay, Whitney, Whitney, Whitney.
- ...it hurt my feelings. - Whitney, this is a hard--
- Because I reached out to you. - And I'm so sorry about that.
I am not a perfect person.
But you didn't have any self-awareness
to maybe be like, "Oh, Whit-- Like, Whitney,
I should see her first, then Heather."
You know what? I did it in that moment. I did it in that moment.
Yeah, and that's been explained.
Because I just finished a conversation
with John and Seth, but I'm not a bad person.
I'm a good person. You're not a bad person.
- And I care about you. - But I think you were lacking
self-awareness right there. - And I think it's triggering
that, like, seeing me talk to Heather for a lot of--
- It wasn't that. - Okay, just making sure.
- I actually-- - Just making sure.
When Whitney texted me that her friend Shari passed,
I felt so horrible.
I sent flowers for her this morning to let her know
I'm thinking of her, and I know that this has
gotta be such a hard time,
but we're in public. I don't know how fragile she is.
And, like, for me, I plug through things.
I wanna be quiet about it.
So, I did not wanna say anything
that could, like, upset her
because I don't know how Whitney handles grief.
You are the--the first person I texted--you and Angie,
and you chose to give Heather a gift.
Last week, you and Heather were at each other's--
Well, you have flowers on your way to your house.
- Thank you. - There are flowers
on the way to your house. - But last week you were
at each other's throats and had a major problem with each other.
Heather's exempt from this. You didn't even want her
to know where it-- - Heather--Heather--
No, it isn't because it was just rubbed in my face
the day that I'm like, oh, I need Lisa.
Like, it--it--it just feels really fake.
Like, why are you going up to Heather
and giving her a gift when I'm your good friend?
Like, I wanted you to come to me first.
Well, you have flowers on the way to your house--
I don't care about flowers. I want you.
♪
Whitney. Whitney.
Whitney, no one wants you leaving.
Whitney, nobody wants you leaving. Stop.
Whitney and Lisa just stormed outta here.
- They stormed out? - Yeah.
Why?
I don't know. I'm just glad it's not me today.
Everything's about you.
No, it's not. No, it's not, and I think that you can--
- I'm so sorry for your loss-- - It is, Lisa,
and I'm always there for you. - No, I'm so sorry.
- Always there for you. - No, no, no. Listen.
- I just needed you... - I'm so sorry for your loss.
I'm sorry for your loss.
...for one minute to be there for me.
♪
No, you guys need to stop right now.
Wow.
It's not one thing, it's another.
That's what it was, though. Whitney's just upset.
Did you see this?
Well, I saw them. I saw them talking.
Mother----er, [bleep] this.
Like, literally.
♪
- What? What now? - [bleep] Whitney.
Look, I'm so----ing sick of this.
I'm selfish. I'm all about myself.
What? Why? What? What'd she say? What'd she say?
♪
Next time on "The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City"...
Bermuda, baby!
Cheers! Warm weather!
- I'm catching a fish. - Oh, my God! Aah!
Oh! [laughs]
- Shark! - [laughs]
Who here has a room with a bathtub in it?
Somehow I got one without a bathtub.
I understand that Meredith has an obsession with bathtubs,
but I have an obsession with views,
and I have one, and I'm not giving it up.
How are you and Whitney?
I'm like, I'm not talking right now.
Lisa, you hurt my feelings.
You treated me sh--ty at Meredith's event.
I guess you had a conversation with Heather
where I'm self-absorbed
and you're helping me be a better person.
- What are you talking about? - You said that you have
really hard conversations with Lisa,
and for you to even sit there and say that--
Heather, shut the [bleep] up.