1 00:00:04,091 --> 00:00:06,787 Previously on "The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City". 2 00:00:06,788 --> 00:00:09,833 - Milli-wau-kee! - Red, red, red, red! 3 00:00:09,834 --> 00:00:11,096 This is the champagne of beers. 4 00:00:11,097 --> 00:00:13,054 - What year is it? - He knows you. 5 00:00:13,055 --> 00:00:17,363 Jared and I, we are broken up! 6 00:00:17,364 --> 00:00:19,017 I love this. Yay! 7 00:00:19,018 --> 00:00:20,496 Oh, Lord. 8 00:00:20,497 --> 00:00:22,455 I don't think you've been a good friend to me lately. 9 00:00:22,456 --> 00:00:23,978 Go hang out with everybody but me. 10 00:00:23,979 --> 00:00:25,240 I'm here! Where were you this morning? 11 00:00:25,241 --> 00:00:27,242 Call Elektra. Wait, isn't that what you do? 12 00:00:27,243 --> 00:00:29,244 Hold on, it's Elektra. 13 00:00:29,245 --> 00:00:32,856 Then Meredith said that people are talking about Prism. 14 00:00:32,857 --> 00:00:34,467 That is----ed up. 15 00:00:34,468 --> 00:00:37,209 I'm not sitting here trying to figure out your business. 16 00:00:37,210 --> 00:00:39,124 I'm worrying about my own, not yours. 17 00:00:39,125 --> 00:00:41,563 Well, you're certainly talking about it. 18 00:00:52,704 --> 00:00:57,709 Okay, baby, I got your food. Henry! What are you doing? 19 00:00:59,494 --> 00:01:01,842 Oh my gosh, you're in your gaming room? 20 00:01:01,843 --> 00:01:03,583 - Yeah. - Okay, come get food. 21 00:01:03,584 --> 00:01:06,153 I got what you wanted. Are you hungry? 22 00:01:08,242 --> 00:01:10,111 For real, are you hungry? 23 00:01:10,112 --> 00:01:11,765 No, not really. 24 00:01:11,766 --> 00:01:14,465 Enough with the gaming. 25 00:01:32,048 --> 00:01:34,875 Awesome! Well done. 26 00:01:34,876 --> 00:01:38,052 So, what I'll do is I'll send you all of the prayers 27 00:01:38,053 --> 00:01:40,533 with the translation and the transliteration 28 00:01:40,534 --> 00:01:42,361 so that we can also discuss what they mean. 29 00:01:42,362 --> 00:01:44,189 Well, I don't sing in public 30 00:01:44,190 --> 00:01:46,365 so this is going to be very interesting. 31 00:01:46,366 --> 00:01:49,150 Well, God will totally understand. 32 00:01:49,151 --> 00:01:50,978 Guide me on the voice. 33 00:01:50,979 --> 00:01:52,808 You got it. For sure. 34 00:02:10,913 --> 00:02:12,260 - Hey. - Hi, Lisa. Hi. 35 00:02:12,261 --> 00:02:14,262 - How's it going? - Good. 36 00:02:14,263 --> 00:02:16,743 Oh my gosh, I need this. Happy to see you too. 37 00:02:16,744 --> 00:02:18,223 Are you guys ready? 38 00:02:18,224 --> 00:02:20,138 I can bring you back whenever you guys are ready. 39 00:02:20,139 --> 00:02:23,489 - We've had a rough week. - Yeah, we need it. 40 00:02:23,490 --> 00:02:25,447 We have quite a bit to catch up on. 41 00:02:25,448 --> 00:02:27,275 I've been thinking about you all weekend. 42 00:02:27,276 --> 00:02:29,453 I know. I know, I know, I know. 43 00:02:32,456 --> 00:02:35,762 I could have never imagined that like, 44 00:02:35,763 --> 00:02:38,982 his family is Gwen's family. 45 00:02:38,983 --> 00:02:40,506 Yeah. 46 00:02:40,507 --> 00:02:43,163 Lisa and I are sitting at the airport. 47 00:02:45,556 --> 00:02:48,253 We had a connecting flight back from Milwaukee. 48 00:02:48,254 --> 00:02:52,170 And she said something to me and I made a face, 49 00:02:52,171 --> 00:02:54,476 because I think I'm hilarious. 50 00:02:54,477 --> 00:02:56,957 And she goes, "Oh, my God, you look like Gwen." 51 00:02:56,958 --> 00:02:58,698 And I said, "No, I don't!" 52 00:02:58,699 --> 00:03:02,310 And I opened my phone and I have this picture of Gwen's dad 53 00:03:02,311 --> 00:03:04,486 and I said, "She looks just like her dad. 54 00:03:04,487 --> 00:03:06,445 No one ever thinks she looks like me." 55 00:03:06,446 --> 00:03:10,623 She pulls out a picture and I literally am like, "I know him!" 56 00:03:10,624 --> 00:03:12,973 And she's like, "You know Gwen's dad?" 57 00:03:12,974 --> 00:03:18,631 And I'm like, "Oh my gosh, I know his parents. Well." 58 00:03:18,632 --> 00:03:20,241 Are you okay? 59 00:03:20,242 --> 00:03:22,722 I mean, it's a lot. It's super complicated. 60 00:03:22,723 --> 00:03:24,071 Mm-hmm. 61 00:03:24,072 --> 00:03:27,640 I got pregnant with Gwen when I was 19 turning 20. 62 00:03:27,641 --> 00:03:31,644 And her biological father was not involved, 63 00:03:31,645 --> 00:03:34,255 and then passed away shortly after, 64 00:03:34,256 --> 00:03:36,346 when she was turning two. 65 00:03:39,871 --> 00:03:41,523 I didn't ever connect the dots. 66 00:03:41,524 --> 00:03:43,482 That's intentional on my behalf. 67 00:03:43,483 --> 00:03:46,267 I'm careful even still with Gwen because it's not for me 68 00:03:46,268 --> 00:03:49,705 and my feelings and my experience to taint hers. 69 00:03:49,706 --> 00:03:51,577 What happened? 70 00:03:51,578 --> 00:03:54,928 It was my second year at BYU. I was 18. 71 00:03:54,929 --> 00:03:57,452 I found out I was pregnant. 72 00:03:57,453 --> 00:04:01,151 And so, he and I went to his parents' house and told them. 73 00:04:01,152 --> 00:04:02,675 I literally can't imagine. 74 00:04:02,676 --> 00:04:05,634 It wasn't a pleasant conversation with them. 75 00:04:05,635 --> 00:04:08,811 His family lives in a very small town and I would say, 76 00:04:08,812 --> 00:04:10,944 probably everybody in that town is Mormon. 77 00:04:10,945 --> 00:04:12,337 His family absolutely is. 78 00:04:12,338 --> 00:04:15,296 So, they were very shocked by this information. 79 00:04:15,297 --> 00:04:18,604 I took a fair amount of the blame that night, yeah, 80 00:04:18,605 --> 00:04:20,780 which is words I won't repeat. 81 00:04:20,781 --> 00:04:23,609 But you know what the connotation is, right? 82 00:04:23,610 --> 00:04:25,917 They were not supportive. I can just say that. 83 00:04:26,918 --> 00:04:29,092 But it was a conversation that deeply hurt me. 84 00:04:29,093 --> 00:04:30,485 Very quickly, the conversation 85 00:04:30,486 --> 00:04:34,141 shifted to that I was awful 86 00:04:34,142 --> 00:04:36,230 and damaged and disgraced and shameful. 87 00:04:36,231 --> 00:04:39,581 I think uh, what they would have preferred 88 00:04:39,582 --> 00:04:42,105 is if I'd like, said I was doing a study abroad 89 00:04:42,106 --> 00:04:44,978 and went and just quietly had my pregnancy 90 00:04:44,979 --> 00:04:46,371 and had the baby adopted. 91 00:04:46,372 --> 00:04:48,766 Did they come right out and say that? 92 00:04:50,725 --> 00:04:54,511 I left there knowing I was going to do this by myself. 93 00:04:54,946 --> 00:04:56,076 Wow. 94 00:04:56,077 --> 00:04:57,425 I was very clear on that, yes. 95 00:04:57,426 --> 00:04:59,558 Wow. How did he feel? 96 00:04:59,559 --> 00:05:01,951 Uh, I think he had decided 97 00:05:01,952 --> 00:05:04,084 it wasn't something he was gonna be a part of. 98 00:05:04,085 --> 00:05:05,607 So, I moved home. 99 00:05:05,608 --> 00:05:07,566 How did your family handle it? 100 00:05:07,567 --> 00:05:10,353 They were not jazzed about it either. 101 00:05:12,050 --> 00:05:13,746 My dad was the recorder 102 00:05:13,747 --> 00:05:15,313 at the temple in Oakland at the time, 103 00:05:15,314 --> 00:05:17,402 which is also not a position you want to be 104 00:05:17,403 --> 00:05:21,928 welcoming home your single, pregnant child, right? 105 00:05:21,929 --> 00:05:23,408 It's a lot. 106 00:05:23,409 --> 00:05:25,018 It's embarrassing for my family. 107 00:05:25,019 --> 00:05:26,454 It was never embarrassing for me. 108 00:05:26,455 --> 00:05:28,151 I just didn't, I frankly didn't have time 109 00:05:28,152 --> 00:05:29,762 to be embarrassed about it. 110 00:05:29,763 --> 00:05:32,373 Well, I mean, like, Bronwyn, this is so much 111 00:05:32,374 --> 00:05:33,679 on a young, 19-year-old girl. 112 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,988 It very much strained my relationship with my mom. 113 00:05:38,468 --> 00:05:41,034 For a long time afterwards. A long time. 114 00:05:41,035 --> 00:05:47,910 It is a total mind-[bleep] to think I, this is the best thing 115 00:05:47,911 --> 00:05:51,131 I've ever done and so many people thought it was the worst 116 00:05:51,132 --> 00:05:53,046 thing I've ever done. 117 00:05:53,047 --> 00:05:55,831 And I didn't know what was gonna happen with her dad. 118 00:05:55,832 --> 00:05:59,444 I thought there's no way that this person can know 119 00:05:59,445 --> 00:06:02,360 I have a child somewhere and someday not come for her, right? 120 00:06:02,361 --> 00:06:06,059 - Someday did not register. - Did they not know? 121 00:06:06,060 --> 00:06:10,063 Um, no my dad, my dad called 122 00:06:10,064 --> 00:06:14,023 um, Gwen's dad and her, I guess, grandparents, 123 00:06:14,024 --> 00:06:18,682 and I'm still waiting for a phone call back. 124 00:06:19,727 --> 00:06:22,077 She's gonna be 18 in a couple months, you know. 125 00:06:22,947 --> 00:06:26,384 And when Gwen was like, 18 months or two at the time, 126 00:06:26,385 --> 00:06:30,213 I found out on Facebook, I saw someone had commented 127 00:06:30,214 --> 00:06:33,523 on an obituary 128 00:06:34,350 --> 00:06:36,526 with a picture of Gwen's dad on it. 129 00:06:37,614 --> 00:06:40,485 I just, my heart breaks for all of you. 130 00:06:40,486 --> 00:06:45,054 I was with Gwen's dad's family 131 00:06:45,055 --> 00:06:46,969 after he passed 132 00:06:46,970 --> 00:06:51,670 and I know how devastating it is from their side. 133 00:06:51,671 --> 00:06:54,412 And then to hear it from Bronwyn's side. 134 00:06:54,413 --> 00:06:57,240 I mean, it's breaking my heart all over again. 135 00:06:57,241 --> 00:06:58,940 For everybody. 136 00:07:00,768 --> 00:07:02,681 I am having a hard time, Lisa. 137 00:07:02,682 --> 00:07:04,552 I'm having a hard time reconciling 138 00:07:04,553 --> 00:07:07,557 this wonderful family that you know. 139 00:07:08,515 --> 00:07:12,473 With the family that has not made time in 18 years 140 00:07:12,474 --> 00:07:13,996 to ever get to know my child, you know. 141 00:07:13,997 --> 00:07:16,653 I know that there's pain on both sides. 142 00:07:17,785 --> 00:07:19,656 Yeah, of course. 143 00:07:21,571 --> 00:07:22,918 Gwen's grandmother. 144 00:07:22,919 --> 00:07:25,660 I told her exactly what happened in the airport 145 00:07:25,661 --> 00:07:27,749 and I said, "What are the chances?" 146 00:07:27,750 --> 00:07:30,450 And she's like, "It's time." 147 00:07:33,975 --> 00:07:36,366 I think there's regret and hurt there. 148 00:07:36,367 --> 00:07:38,586 And they were like, 149 00:07:38,587 --> 00:07:41,676 "We want to be a part of Gwen's life. 150 00:07:41,677 --> 00:07:44,942 If she wants to be a part of our life, we really want it." 151 00:07:50,557 --> 00:07:52,644 Gwen wants to know about her dad, 152 00:07:52,645 --> 00:07:54,863 and I think that that is a very natural curiosity 153 00:07:54,864 --> 00:07:57,344 and she should know everything that she wants to about him. 154 00:07:57,345 --> 00:07:59,607 I told her this came up. 155 00:07:59,608 --> 00:08:02,392 I think she was very surprised by it so we kind of eased 156 00:08:02,393 --> 00:08:04,133 into that conversation. 157 00:08:04,134 --> 00:08:05,526 So, I don't know where it goes. 158 00:08:05,527 --> 00:08:07,572 I want it to go somewhere wonderful for her. 159 00:08:07,573 --> 00:08:09,443 I really do. Um... 160 00:08:09,444 --> 00:08:10,923 Same. 161 00:08:10,924 --> 00:08:13,534 But it is going to physically pain me 162 00:08:13,535 --> 00:08:15,188 to watch her be close with them. 163 00:08:15,189 --> 00:08:17,146 It will. It will. 164 00:08:17,147 --> 00:08:19,586 - Mm-hmm. - Yeah. 165 00:08:38,692 --> 00:08:39,691 Heather! 166 00:08:39,692 --> 00:08:41,955 What's up? One piece crew! 167 00:08:44,785 --> 00:08:46,219 What kind of dance move was that? 168 00:08:46,220 --> 00:08:48,136 Get your stuff, let's go. 169 00:08:51,792 --> 00:08:54,751 - Okay, here we go. - You got it. You got it. 170 00:08:55,535 --> 00:08:57,665 - I'll take up the rear. - Like a little duckling. 171 00:08:57,666 --> 00:09:00,104 - Oh, my god. - Good job, Brit! 172 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:13,074 ♪ Ah, ah, ah 173 00:09:16,730 --> 00:09:18,904 Woo! 174 00:09:18,905 --> 00:09:20,296 Hey. 175 00:09:20,297 --> 00:09:21,646 Look at that view. That's beautiful. 176 00:09:21,647 --> 00:09:23,691 Cute like, snaps. 177 00:09:23,692 --> 00:09:26,609 Yay, the cousins. The cousins and me. 178 00:09:27,697 --> 00:09:29,697 - Speaking of videos. - Yeah, oh my gosh. 179 00:09:29,698 --> 00:09:31,481 What was that video? Does, has she seen it? 180 00:09:31,482 --> 00:09:33,092 No. 181 00:09:33,093 --> 00:09:35,355 She sent me a video the night she got back from Milwaukee. 182 00:09:35,356 --> 00:09:37,923 - You won't believe it. - Britani did? 183 00:09:37,924 --> 00:09:40,012 Yeah. Press play. 184 00:09:40,013 --> 00:09:44,016 I just walked in from Milwaukee and this is sitting on my desk. 185 00:09:44,017 --> 00:09:48,020 There's four dozen roses from my favorite florist 186 00:09:48,021 --> 00:09:51,458 and this beautiful card from Jared. 187 00:09:51,459 --> 00:09:53,721 He wants to meet up with me, obviously. 188 00:09:53,722 --> 00:09:56,071 He's sending me flowers. He's writing me love notes. 189 00:09:56,072 --> 00:09:57,377 No. 190 00:09:57,378 --> 00:09:59,335 So, are you considering meeting up with him? 191 00:09:59,336 --> 00:10:00,728 Yeah, I'm thinking about it. 192 00:10:00,729 --> 00:10:02,817 I do feel like he deserves closure. 193 00:10:02,818 --> 00:10:05,167 And the way, the snarky texts that I sent, 194 00:10:05,168 --> 00:10:08,956 I feel like I owe it to him to hear him out. 195 00:10:10,392 --> 00:10:12,435 I know that you want love. 196 00:10:12,436 --> 00:10:14,873 But it's getting a little complicated. 197 00:10:14,874 --> 00:10:17,876 'Cause one minute we're all pro-Jared. 198 00:10:17,877 --> 00:10:20,052 Not everyone was pro-Jared, I'll tell you that. 199 00:10:20,053 --> 00:10:23,882 Lisa was so anti-Jared. It really affected what I did. 200 00:10:23,883 --> 00:10:25,579 And maybe it was for the best. 201 00:10:25,580 --> 00:10:27,668 But then I just think she's way too invested 202 00:10:27,669 --> 00:10:29,017 in my personal life. 203 00:10:29,018 --> 00:10:31,063 I felt a little bit bothered by that, you know. 204 00:10:31,064 --> 00:10:34,066 I'm really upset and hurt by Lisa right now. 205 00:10:34,067 --> 00:10:35,545 Why? 206 00:10:35,546 --> 00:10:37,985 She gave me the biggest F-U ever. 207 00:10:39,029 --> 00:10:43,033 After we got home from our trip, Charles from the Kinn called me. 208 00:10:47,864 --> 00:10:50,430 Does it say Prism on the box? 209 00:10:50,431 --> 00:10:52,562 - Yes. - What room was it in? 210 00:10:52,563 --> 00:10:53,738 406. 211 00:10:53,739 --> 00:10:55,609 It was Lisa Barlow's. 212 00:10:55,610 --> 00:10:58,046 - No. - Mm-hmm. 213 00:10:58,047 --> 00:11:00,440 Here's the thing. You know, I was going hard for Meredith 214 00:11:00,441 --> 00:11:02,834 that night, 'cause why are you talking about my business? 215 00:11:02,835 --> 00:11:04,966 And her in the past. 216 00:11:04,967 --> 00:11:06,751 What? 217 00:11:06,752 --> 00:11:08,927 Lisa's who told Meredith about it. 218 00:11:08,928 --> 00:11:10,885 Lisa told Meredith about it? 219 00:11:10,886 --> 00:11:12,931 Lisa told Meredith. Meredith told me. I told you. 220 00:11:12,932 --> 00:11:16,064 But like, it's more than the business stuff. 221 00:11:16,065 --> 00:11:18,632 It feels like you're taking it really personally. 222 00:11:18,633 --> 00:11:20,373 Because I feel like it is personal. 223 00:11:20,374 --> 00:11:22,505 This is my business, my brand, 224 00:11:22,506 --> 00:11:24,551 and it's not just something that popped up. 225 00:11:24,552 --> 00:11:26,553 I feel like this was planted. 226 00:11:26,554 --> 00:11:28,078 - By who? - By Lisa? 227 00:11:29,340 --> 00:11:31,732 After I got that call from Charles at the Kinn, 228 00:11:31,733 --> 00:11:34,300 I started thinking, Lisa is vindictive. 229 00:11:34,301 --> 00:11:37,085 She must still be mad at me over the podcast. 230 00:11:37,086 --> 00:11:38,870 Lisa has always been the villain. 231 00:11:38,871 --> 00:11:42,134 Because why else would she toss the necklace I gifted her 232 00:11:42,135 --> 00:11:43,222 into the trash? 233 00:11:43,223 --> 00:11:45,050 If Lisa's the one who brought it up. 234 00:11:45,051 --> 00:11:46,965 That is really hurtful, Whitney. 235 00:11:46,966 --> 00:11:49,707 And now, hearing that Lisa started this rumor 236 00:11:49,708 --> 00:11:52,492 and not Meredith, I think I have this wrong. 237 00:11:52,493 --> 00:11:54,668 You need to get to the bottom of that. 238 00:11:54,669 --> 00:11:56,803 I need to get to the bottom of all of it. 239 00:12:12,122 --> 00:12:15,386 Robert! Robert! 240 00:12:19,434 --> 00:12:21,305 Robert. 241 00:12:28,095 --> 00:12:30,225 - You good, babe? - Mm-hmm. 242 00:12:30,226 --> 00:12:32,142 Did you eat? 243 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,973 I'm getting ready to go to a dance class. 244 00:12:41,238 --> 00:12:43,284 For what? 245 00:12:46,853 --> 00:12:49,856 It's, it's used for good purposes, right? 246 00:12:50,813 --> 00:12:53,118 Like, you know like your body's like a plant. 247 00:12:53,119 --> 00:12:56,556 And if you don't water a plant, if you don't feed a plant, 248 00:12:56,557 --> 00:12:58,299 what happens to it? 249 00:13:00,170 --> 00:13:01,955 It dies. 250 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:03,998 We don't want that. 251 00:13:03,999 --> 00:13:08,046 I do support Robert but I also want him to get a job. 252 00:13:08,047 --> 00:13:10,309 I want him to be responsible. I want him to be disciplined. 253 00:13:10,310 --> 00:13:14,443 But right now he's just not in a good space to be working 254 00:13:14,444 --> 00:13:17,011 because I just feel like he won't be focused, 255 00:13:17,012 --> 00:13:20,014 the attention span will be bad, and he won't perform. 256 00:13:20,015 --> 00:13:24,325 It has a lot to do with his lifestyle. 257 00:13:30,635 --> 00:13:32,507 Love you too, babe. 258 00:13:34,204 --> 00:13:36,337 Bless him, Lord. 259 00:13:42,865 --> 00:13:45,346 Your charity awaits, my lady. 260 00:13:46,956 --> 00:13:48,915 Okay, see you in a minute. 261 00:13:50,046 --> 00:13:52,090 - Hi, how are you? - Good. 262 00:13:52,091 --> 00:13:54,266 My pants are so tight I gotta find a way to maneuver. 263 00:13:54,267 --> 00:13:56,703 - It smells like onions in here. - Does it? Oh, God. 264 00:13:56,704 --> 00:13:58,096 - You hate onions. - Did you have onions? 265 00:13:58,097 --> 00:14:00,230 No, I didn't have onions. 266 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,149 Welcome, welcome to class, y'all. 267 00:14:08,150 --> 00:14:09,716 We're gonna start with a bounce 268 00:14:09,717 --> 00:14:11,892 because we are doing some hip hop. 269 00:14:11,893 --> 00:14:13,372 Yes, step in here, step in there. 270 00:14:13,373 --> 00:14:15,853 - Hi! So good to see you. - So good to see you. 271 00:14:15,854 --> 00:14:17,376 This is gonna be so fun. 272 00:14:17,377 --> 00:14:19,682 Well, this really shows Mary and I's level of expertise 273 00:14:19,683 --> 00:14:21,336 in the dance department. 274 00:14:21,337 --> 00:14:24,252 We are in a dance class with Georgia Gay, who is a teenager. 275 00:14:24,253 --> 00:14:26,515 - You're gonna have to help me. - Okay, I'll help you too. 276 00:14:26,516 --> 00:14:28,082 Like I'm your mom. 277 00:14:28,083 --> 00:14:29,997 I'd like to think I'm a younger version of Jennifer Grey. 278 00:14:29,998 --> 00:14:32,870 But I don't even think these kids are old enough 279 00:14:32,871 --> 00:14:34,393 to watch Dirty Dancing. 280 00:14:34,394 --> 00:14:38,878 Go in, go out. Single, single, double, double. 281 00:14:58,593 --> 00:15:00,723 - Hi. - Hi, what's the name? 282 00:15:00,724 --> 00:15:04,336 Heather. It should be for two for the salt caves. 283 00:15:04,337 --> 00:15:06,338 - Yeah. - Perfect, thank you. 284 00:15:06,339 --> 00:15:09,950 Hey, how are you? Good to see you. 285 00:15:09,951 --> 00:15:11,778 Are you ready for a salt cave? 286 00:15:11,779 --> 00:15:13,519 Yeah, I probably need it. 287 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,042 I can take you guys back. 288 00:15:15,043 --> 00:15:17,131 Will you tell us about it, too? Like, this is so cool. 289 00:15:17,132 --> 00:15:18,611 I didn't even know we had these here. 290 00:15:18,612 --> 00:15:22,443 So, the room is made out of 16 tons of Himalayan salt. 291 00:15:23,574 --> 00:15:25,705 What do you mean, like this brick is salt? 292 00:15:25,706 --> 00:15:27,141 Yep, all the brick. It's all salt. 293 00:15:27,142 --> 00:15:28,882 Who even thinks this up? 294 00:15:28,883 --> 00:15:30,536 When you're surrounded by this much salt 295 00:15:30,537 --> 00:15:33,234 there's a negative ion healing effect that happens in your body 296 00:15:33,235 --> 00:15:35,671 so it's super grounding and relaxing 297 00:15:35,672 --> 00:15:37,195 just to be sitting in this room. 298 00:15:37,196 --> 00:15:40,154 Uh, may I get some tea? Do you want some? 299 00:15:40,155 --> 00:15:42,069 - I'll go put some hot water. - Yeah, thank you. 300 00:15:42,070 --> 00:15:44,985 I would love a tea, too. I'm scared to get in it. 301 00:15:44,986 --> 00:15:46,682 Oh, it's chilly. It feels good. 302 00:15:46,683 --> 00:15:48,293 - It's cold? - Yeah, it's cold. 303 00:15:48,294 --> 00:15:50,251 Oh my gosh, this is much different 304 00:15:50,252 --> 00:15:53,951 than the Costco Himalayan sea salt that I buy in bulk. 305 00:15:53,952 --> 00:15:55,300 Yeah. This feels so good. 306 00:15:55,301 --> 00:15:56,997 - Here's the tea for you ladies. - Thank you. 307 00:15:56,998 --> 00:15:58,999 Be careful not to spill it on the salt 308 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:00,914 'cause it will dissolve it. 309 00:16:00,915 --> 00:16:02,916 - Oh my gosh. - Thank you. 310 00:16:02,917 --> 00:16:05,788 Is it burning hot? Burning? Burning? 311 00:16:05,789 --> 00:16:08,182 Burning hot. Oh my gosh, let it chill. Let it chill. 312 00:16:08,183 --> 00:16:10,446 I have no more tastebuds on my tongue. 313 00:16:11,971 --> 00:16:15,102 Jam it out. Jam it out. Jam it out. 314 00:16:15,103 --> 00:16:17,323 Thank you guys again for coming through. 315 00:16:18,890 --> 00:16:23,328 This was so fun. Mary. Gorgeous outfit. 316 00:16:23,329 --> 00:16:24,459 Woo! 317 00:16:24,460 --> 00:16:26,113 Do you wanna cool off for a minute? 318 00:16:26,114 --> 00:16:27,810 I feel like we haven't talked since the trip. 319 00:16:27,811 --> 00:16:29,464 I don't know if you had fun. I had fun. 320 00:16:29,465 --> 00:16:31,031 Oh, the trip, I loved the trip. 321 00:16:31,032 --> 00:16:34,121 But I left there just really emotional. 322 00:16:34,122 --> 00:16:36,297 Well, you did have a little blowout. 323 00:16:36,298 --> 00:16:38,647 Mary, my exchange with Lisa was so bad. 324 00:16:38,648 --> 00:16:41,955 Saying that like oh, I say I've got to go to 325 00:16:41,956 --> 00:16:43,304 take care of my daughter. 326 00:16:43,305 --> 00:16:45,219 That's when the conversation starts at lunch 327 00:16:45,220 --> 00:16:46,873 and it's now dinnertime. 328 00:16:46,874 --> 00:16:48,353 I mean, I'm a committed mother. 329 00:16:48,354 --> 00:16:50,485 I'm home for my daughter, I'm there for my daughter 330 00:16:50,486 --> 00:16:52,313 because my mom wasn't there for me. 331 00:16:52,314 --> 00:16:55,316 And for her to bring that up, that was like, that was low. 332 00:16:55,317 --> 00:16:58,319 Lisa's had a problem with every single one of her friends. 333 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,801 She had a problem with Jen, Heather, Meredith, 334 00:17:01,802 --> 00:17:05,457 Whitney, Angie H, Monica, Mary, 335 00:17:05,458 --> 00:17:07,024 and now me. 336 00:17:07,025 --> 00:17:09,156 There's a reason no one can keep Lisa happy. 337 00:17:09,157 --> 00:17:10,810 She's impossible. 338 00:17:10,811 --> 00:17:13,682 Mary, we were like sisters. We talked multiple times a day. 339 00:17:13,683 --> 00:17:16,685 And now I don't hear from her anymore and Heather's telling me 340 00:17:16,686 --> 00:17:18,644 it's because of me. 341 00:17:18,645 --> 00:17:19,862 What? 342 00:17:19,863 --> 00:17:22,256 Heather's blaming me, that I pulled away 343 00:17:22,257 --> 00:17:23,431 or I'm not calling Lisa as much. 344 00:17:23,432 --> 00:17:26,219 She's totally siding with Lisa. 345 00:17:28,395 --> 00:17:29,872 How do you feel after the trip? 346 00:17:29,873 --> 00:17:31,570 I haven't recovered yet, you know? 347 00:17:31,571 --> 00:17:34,051 The Harley Museum was so weird, you know. 348 00:17:34,052 --> 00:17:37,532 I feel like Angie is changing the terms of your friendship. 349 00:17:37,533 --> 00:17:41,058 Like, I feel like she's challenging you unnecessarily. 350 00:17:41,059 --> 00:17:42,842 You don't like that I'm not just doing 351 00:17:42,843 --> 00:17:44,191 whatever you want me to do. 352 00:17:44,192 --> 00:17:46,106 I don't give a what you do! 353 00:17:46,107 --> 00:17:47,586 Yes, you do! 354 00:17:47,587 --> 00:17:49,805 Don't do that to me, you - ing bitch! Don't do that! 355 00:17:49,806 --> 00:17:51,546 I'm---ing pissed at you. 356 00:17:51,547 --> 00:17:54,158 - Thank you, I feel that too. - I feel like it's mean. 357 00:17:54,159 --> 00:17:56,334 I don't like the way she's treating you. 358 00:17:56,335 --> 00:17:59,163 It feels, it feels sh---- I'll tell you that much. 359 00:17:59,164 --> 00:18:00,729 I think it feels sh---y too. 360 00:18:00,730 --> 00:18:02,688 Like, she was upset, I mean, after Harley-Davidson. 361 00:18:02,689 --> 00:18:05,734 We talked the next morning and she like, threw out some jabs. 362 00:18:05,735 --> 00:18:07,388 Like what? 363 00:18:07,389 --> 00:18:09,738 She was being mean. She said my daughter needs me. 364 00:18:09,739 --> 00:18:12,611 Like, she's just not in the room playing video games. 365 00:18:12,612 --> 00:18:15,353 I think the biggest thing that hit me last night 366 00:18:15,354 --> 00:18:16,876 was Lisa saying that I'm not a good friend. 367 00:18:16,877 --> 00:18:19,444 And then for her to bring up that I hang up with her 368 00:18:19,445 --> 00:18:22,229 because I use, oh I've got to go, Elektra needs me. 369 00:18:22,230 --> 00:18:25,058 My daughter does need me. She needs a present mother. 370 00:18:25,059 --> 00:18:28,017 Like, I don't let her sit and---ing game 371 00:18:28,018 --> 00:18:30,237 'til two in the morning. 372 00:18:30,238 --> 00:18:32,761 So, I can like leave the computer 373 00:18:32,762 --> 00:18:34,589 as a----ing babysitter. 374 00:18:34,590 --> 00:18:38,593 Oh. Oh, wow. She's talking about my parenting? 375 00:18:38,594 --> 00:18:41,292 I'm like a great mom. What is she talking about? 376 00:18:41,293 --> 00:18:42,423 It felt like a dig. 377 00:18:42,424 --> 00:18:44,121 Yeah, that sounds like a big dig. 378 00:18:44,122 --> 00:18:45,426 It felt like Elektra requires more than Henry 379 00:18:45,427 --> 00:18:47,080 and you don't understand that. 380 00:18:47,081 --> 00:18:49,650 And she can't take time away from Elektra to be your friend. 381 00:18:51,217 --> 00:18:52,825 You know what? If I'm a sh-- mom, 382 00:18:52,826 --> 00:18:55,871 my kids are doing pretty good for having this sh---y mother. 383 00:18:55,872 --> 00:18:59,005 I think I could have gone my whole life and never told Lisa 384 00:18:59,006 --> 00:19:00,311 what Angie said. 385 00:19:00,312 --> 00:19:02,487 But I thought what Angie said was mean 386 00:19:02,488 --> 00:19:05,838 and was not indicative of the way that I've known Angie 387 00:19:05,839 --> 00:19:07,274 to feel about Lisa. 388 00:19:07,275 --> 00:19:09,189 And it just felt like something Lisa should know. 389 00:19:09,190 --> 00:19:12,149 She can take the mother of the year award. 390 00:19:12,150 --> 00:19:13,933 That's a----ing low blow. 391 00:19:13,934 --> 00:19:17,504 Like, I am actually really - ing mad right now. 392 00:19:19,506 --> 00:19:22,333 I am constantly criticized 393 00:19:22,334 --> 00:19:24,726 by people that don't even know me 394 00:19:24,727 --> 00:19:26,815 about how I am as a mother 395 00:19:26,816 --> 00:19:28,513 because I'm a public figure. 396 00:19:28,514 --> 00:19:32,038 So, to have someone that you consider to be a close friend 397 00:19:32,039 --> 00:19:35,215 judge you for how you are as mom, 398 00:19:35,216 --> 00:19:36,651 is like the worst cut. 399 00:19:36,652 --> 00:19:39,698 I do everything for my kids, with my kids. 400 00:19:39,699 --> 00:19:43,051 For her to say that is so----ing rude. 401 00:19:43,573 --> 00:19:46,183 I think you need to get to the root of it with Angie. 402 00:19:46,184 --> 00:19:48,141 Like, what is her issue with you? 403 00:19:48,142 --> 00:19:49,664 It's not just personality critiques 404 00:19:49,665 --> 00:19:51,275 or friendship critiques. 405 00:19:51,276 --> 00:19:53,929 Like, she's coming after you and I don't know why. 406 00:19:53,930 --> 00:19:57,196 And neither do I. Neither do I. 407 00:20:10,034 --> 00:20:11,643 Are you ready to go to soccer? 408 00:20:11,644 --> 00:20:13,166 Always. 409 00:20:13,167 --> 00:20:14,602 Has anyone noticed that I gained 410 00:20:14,603 --> 00:20:16,604 about seven new piercings in my earlobe? 411 00:20:16,605 --> 00:20:18,954 Babe what are you doing with your ears? 412 00:20:18,955 --> 00:20:20,608 I want my second piercing. 413 00:20:20,609 --> 00:20:22,480 Can you take me to get my second piercing? 414 00:20:22,481 --> 00:20:25,134 Let's set a goal and if you meet the goal 415 00:20:25,135 --> 00:20:26,701 you can get a second piercing. 416 00:20:26,702 --> 00:20:29,617 You said I could get a second piercing already. Remember? 417 00:20:29,618 --> 00:20:31,663 Yes. I get that she's 14 and she's growing up. 418 00:20:31,664 --> 00:20:34,274 - 'K, have fun at soccer, babe. - Love you. 419 00:20:34,275 --> 00:20:35,623 All of her friends have piercings, 420 00:20:35,624 --> 00:20:39,018 but it's like the wholesomeness and the virtue 421 00:20:39,019 --> 00:20:40,280 of being a little kid. 422 00:20:40,281 --> 00:20:41,629 I think I'm just trying to like, 423 00:20:41,630 --> 00:20:43,849 hold on to that as long as I can. 424 00:20:43,850 --> 00:20:47,069 I still can't believe that we moved into a home 425 00:20:47,070 --> 00:20:50,510 that has a view of a temple from most of the windows. 426 00:20:51,250 --> 00:20:53,337 Hey, but it raises your property value. 427 00:20:53,338 --> 00:20:55,208 That's what they say. 428 00:20:55,209 --> 00:20:56,818 Oh, it's Adam. 429 00:20:56,819 --> 00:20:58,472 Hello? 430 00:20:58,473 --> 00:21:01,475 - Hey. - Hey, how's it going? 431 00:21:01,476 --> 00:21:04,391 Oh, my God. So, I was calling you 432 00:21:04,392 --> 00:21:06,741 because I didn't realize 433 00:21:06,742 --> 00:21:09,657 that it was somebody that you're close to 434 00:21:09,658 --> 00:21:13,095 who was putting this information out. 435 00:21:13,096 --> 00:21:17,012 Adam is a casual friend of mine who is also a podcaster. 436 00:21:17,013 --> 00:21:20,668 And he is friends with the person that runs the account 437 00:21:20,669 --> 00:21:23,932 that posted that Prism's jewelry comes from Alibaba. 438 00:21:23,933 --> 00:21:26,500 So, I asked Adam to reach out to the account 439 00:21:26,501 --> 00:21:29,416 to see if he could find out who fed this story. 440 00:21:29,417 --> 00:21:33,333 Because I have my suspicions but I need the proof. 441 00:21:33,334 --> 00:21:35,117 Just tell me. What was your conversation? 442 00:21:35,118 --> 00:21:37,903 Because this is my business. My brand, my reputation. 443 00:21:37,904 --> 00:21:40,862 I was trying to do my best to figure out who this person was. 444 00:21:40,863 --> 00:21:43,865 And they said it's definitely somebody in your group. 445 00:21:43,866 --> 00:21:47,652 And I said, "Can you tell me who it is?" 446 00:21:47,653 --> 00:21:51,177 They said, "Well I can't tell you who it is 447 00:21:51,178 --> 00:21:52,918 but you can ask me questions." 448 00:21:52,919 --> 00:21:56,269 And I said, "Does this person have a jewelry brand?" 449 00:21:56,270 --> 00:21:57,923 They said, "No." 450 00:21:57,924 --> 00:22:00,969 I said, "Does this person have a beauty brand?" 451 00:22:00,970 --> 00:22:02,884 They said, "No." 452 00:22:02,885 --> 00:22:06,540 And then I said, "Does this person have a liquor brand?" 453 00:22:06,541 --> 00:22:08,499 And they said, "Yes." 454 00:22:08,500 --> 00:22:10,938 And I was, like, oh, my God. 455 00:22:13,593 --> 00:22:16,507 No one in my friend group has a liquor brand 456 00:22:16,508 --> 00:22:18,117 besides Lisa Barlow. 457 00:22:18,118 --> 00:22:19,248 Right. 458 00:22:19,249 --> 00:22:21,076 Like catching Lisa in this, 459 00:22:21,077 --> 00:22:24,384 especially after the outrage at Reality Von Tease. 460 00:22:24,385 --> 00:22:26,299 Let me just process this for a minute 461 00:22:26,300 --> 00:22:27,692 and then I'll reach back out to you. 462 00:22:27,693 --> 00:22:30,434 - Talk to you soon. - Okay, take care. Bye. 463 00:22:30,435 --> 00:22:32,958 On one hand, it's like, it's validating, 464 00:22:32,959 --> 00:22:35,917 but at the same time, I really didn't want it to be true 465 00:22:35,918 --> 00:22:39,747 because it means I have a friendship 466 00:22:39,748 --> 00:22:43,100 that potentially was never real in the first place. 467 00:22:45,189 --> 00:22:47,104 Holy sh--, babe. 468 00:22:58,986 --> 00:23:00,420 Well, hey. 469 00:23:00,421 --> 00:23:02,509 - Your guy's already here. - Is he here already? 470 00:23:02,510 --> 00:23:05,645 Right there for you. 471 00:23:08,822 --> 00:23:10,561 - Hi, how are you? - Can I have a hug? 472 00:23:10,562 --> 00:23:13,000 Yeah, yeah, we can hug. 473 00:23:21,095 --> 00:23:22,964 How are you? 474 00:23:22,965 --> 00:23:25,402 Great. 475 00:23:25,403 --> 00:23:26,838 How are you? 476 00:23:26,839 --> 00:23:29,275 - I'm nervous. - Why are you nervous? 477 00:23:29,276 --> 00:23:30,842 I make you nervous? 478 00:23:30,843 --> 00:23:32,887 No, I'm just, I'm just nervous. 479 00:23:32,888 --> 00:23:34,976 I know that when I get in front of Jared, 480 00:23:34,977 --> 00:23:37,631 he's very convincing. 481 00:23:37,632 --> 00:23:39,459 I would say even manipulative. 482 00:23:39,460 --> 00:23:41,461 And I have a really hard time standing my ground 483 00:23:41,462 --> 00:23:42,810 and staying broken up. 484 00:23:42,811 --> 00:23:44,333 It's good to see you, though. 485 00:23:44,334 --> 00:23:46,161 It's been my pattern over and over. 486 00:23:46,162 --> 00:23:48,381 Is it okay if take your food order right now? 487 00:23:48,382 --> 00:23:50,992 Let's just do a charcuterie board. 488 00:23:50,993 --> 00:23:53,299 Yeah, let's kind of go from there. Appreciate that. 489 00:23:53,300 --> 00:23:56,476 But he's been asking and asking to have some closure, 490 00:23:56,477 --> 00:23:58,437 and I feel like I owe him that. 491 00:23:58,872 --> 00:24:00,959 - You look beautiful. - Thank you. 492 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,483 - I've missed you. - I've missed you too. 493 00:24:03,484 --> 00:24:05,659 Yeah. It's a tough transition, to be honest. 494 00:24:05,660 --> 00:24:07,052 I didn't see it coming. 495 00:24:07,053 --> 00:24:09,924 What makes this different than every other breakup? 496 00:24:09,925 --> 00:24:12,797 You went to Milwaukee, and when you left, 497 00:24:12,798 --> 00:24:15,016 I thought it was all sunshine and roses. 498 00:24:15,017 --> 00:24:19,368 And right before the game, you sent me a little video 499 00:24:19,369 --> 00:24:20,631 and you said, hey. 500 00:24:20,632 --> 00:24:22,502 I'll call you when the game's over, babe. 501 00:24:22,503 --> 00:24:24,112 Yes. 502 00:24:24,113 --> 00:24:28,205 The next day rolls around. Ghosted me. 503 00:24:29,424 --> 00:24:32,381 And then, that second night, 504 00:24:32,382 --> 00:24:34,862 I get a FaceTime call on your phone 505 00:24:34,863 --> 00:24:36,603 and I'm like, "Oh, finally. 506 00:24:36,604 --> 00:24:38,605 Oh, good, I have a chance to resolve it." 507 00:24:38,606 --> 00:24:40,868 And it's Lisa Barlow. 508 00:24:40,869 --> 00:24:43,569 And she's been reading my text messages. 509 00:24:44,352 --> 00:24:45,569 What the hell, Brit? 510 00:24:45,570 --> 00:24:47,919 On the way home from the drag bar, 511 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,704 Lisa grabs my phone and starts messaging Jared 512 00:24:50,705 --> 00:24:52,752 really mean things. 513 00:24:53,100 --> 00:24:56,101 And she FaceTimed them and then started singing to him 514 00:24:56,102 --> 00:24:59,539 some kind of song about besties and yada yada, 515 00:24:59,540 --> 00:25:01,019 because Jared calls me his best friend 516 00:25:01,020 --> 00:25:02,499 and she thought that was ridiculous. 517 00:25:02,500 --> 00:25:04,196 This is what I have a real problem with. 518 00:25:04,197 --> 00:25:07,242 Private conversations between people that love each other 519 00:25:07,243 --> 00:25:08,766 are private. 520 00:25:08,767 --> 00:25:12,073 In the moment I felt appreciative of Lisa 521 00:25:12,074 --> 00:25:14,075 because I feel like she's got good intentions 522 00:25:14,076 --> 00:25:16,164 and I like that she's looking out for me, 523 00:25:16,165 --> 00:25:20,170 but in hindsight, it was terrible to let Lisa do that. 524 00:25:20,954 --> 00:25:22,649 Our life, it should be private. 525 00:25:22,650 --> 00:25:24,738 It's okay to have a public side, a public persona. 526 00:25:24,739 --> 00:25:25,957 Well, see, you wanted it private, 527 00:25:25,958 --> 00:25:27,262 but I don't necessarily want it private. 528 00:25:27,263 --> 00:25:28,786 I just want to be... 529 00:25:28,787 --> 00:25:30,744 Okay, well then we had a difference. 530 00:25:30,745 --> 00:25:32,006 ...how we are to everybody. 531 00:25:32,007 --> 00:25:33,834 When we're out, I hold your hand. 532 00:25:33,835 --> 00:25:35,749 When we're together, I've kissed you in public. 533 00:25:35,750 --> 00:25:37,272 Why is that even an issue though? 534 00:25:37,273 --> 00:25:39,971 Do you take any accountability for me not feeling safe? 535 00:25:39,972 --> 00:25:41,538 I take lots of accountability. I... feeling safe? 536 00:25:41,539 --> 00:25:42,974 Yeah. 537 00:25:42,975 --> 00:25:45,019 He doesn't ever post about me on social media. 538 00:25:45,020 --> 00:25:47,282 He won't get off dating apps. 539 00:25:47,283 --> 00:25:50,764 And when we walk by cute girls, he'll drop my hand. 540 00:25:50,765 --> 00:25:53,158 The most important part of a relationship 541 00:25:53,159 --> 00:25:55,987 is the part that makes you feel like you're in a relationship, 542 00:25:55,988 --> 00:25:59,294 and that part is not there. 543 00:25:59,295 --> 00:26:01,906 Jared, you are my best friend, 544 00:26:01,907 --> 00:26:05,562 but are you willing 545 00:26:05,563 --> 00:26:07,912 to make me feel safe 546 00:26:07,913 --> 00:26:10,305 and do the things that are uncomfortable for you 547 00:26:10,306 --> 00:26:11,831 to make me feel safe? 548 00:26:14,355 --> 00:26:17,924 And I don't have to be so confused all the time. 549 00:26:18,664 --> 00:26:22,840 I've shown up every day for you, Britani, and that's not enough. 550 00:26:22,841 --> 00:26:24,145 That's not answering the question. 551 00:26:24,146 --> 00:26:25,799 I've given you everything I can. I'm here. 552 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,627 Well, that's the answer to my question. 553 00:26:27,628 --> 00:26:29,150 You've given me everything you can. 554 00:26:29,151 --> 00:26:30,630 I have. Okay, and it's not enough, Britani. 555 00:26:30,631 --> 00:26:32,632 - So, that's a no. - Okay. 556 00:26:32,633 --> 00:26:34,634 It's a no. 557 00:26:34,635 --> 00:26:37,030 I'm a really good guy, Britani. It's okay. 558 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,034 I don't wanna lose the relationship. 559 00:26:42,992 --> 00:26:45,299 But you and I just don't understand each other. 560 00:26:46,692 --> 00:26:48,474 So, let's just put a pin in it. 561 00:26:48,475 --> 00:26:50,173 Okay. 562 00:27:07,843 --> 00:27:09,843 - Hello. - Hi. 563 00:27:09,844 --> 00:27:11,932 I haven't seen you for a few days. 564 00:27:11,933 --> 00:27:13,978 - I know. - I got cookies. 565 00:27:13,979 --> 00:27:15,893 So, I got myself the Lucky Charms one. 566 00:27:15,894 --> 00:27:17,634 - Do you want chocolate? - Um, no. 567 00:27:17,635 --> 00:27:19,810 You want just chocolate chip? I'm glad you're back. 568 00:27:19,811 --> 00:27:21,638 Gwen's been with my mom and dad in San Francisco 569 00:27:21,639 --> 00:27:23,422 for a couple days. 570 00:27:23,423 --> 00:27:26,468 As soon as I came back from Milwaukee, Gwen and I talked. 571 00:27:26,469 --> 00:27:28,949 This isn't something I could kind of keep to myself. 572 00:27:28,950 --> 00:27:30,472 I wanted to tell her right away. 573 00:27:30,473 --> 00:27:34,389 And I wanted her to have some time not with me 574 00:27:34,390 --> 00:27:37,915 so that she could have some space to think about it. 575 00:27:37,916 --> 00:27:39,614 Gosh, Freddy's so heavy now. 576 00:27:40,659 --> 00:27:42,136 Let's go, come on. 577 00:27:42,137 --> 00:27:44,617 Also, it was really important for me to have some space 578 00:27:44,618 --> 00:27:47,794 to center back on the mom 579 00:27:47,795 --> 00:27:50,843 that I want to be to Gwen in this scenario. 580 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,977 Okay, come up here, girls. 581 00:27:56,978 --> 00:27:58,762 Come here. Come on, sweet girl. 582 00:27:58,763 --> 00:28:00,633 Um, I don't even know what to say, Gwen. 583 00:28:00,634 --> 00:28:02,200 It was so bizarre in the airport 584 00:28:02,201 --> 00:28:04,115 sitting there chatting with Lisa. 585 00:28:04,116 --> 00:28:05,899 When I told Todd, he was like, 586 00:28:05,900 --> 00:28:07,553 I've never even seen a picture of Gwen's dad. 587 00:28:07,554 --> 00:28:10,077 I can't believe you just whipped a picture out and showed Lisa. 588 00:28:10,078 --> 00:28:11,209 And I wasn't thinking, obviously. 589 00:28:11,210 --> 00:28:12,384 I didn't know they knew each other. 590 00:28:12,385 --> 00:28:14,125 And then that spiraled out of control. 591 00:28:14,126 --> 00:28:15,474 She's good friends with them. 592 00:28:15,475 --> 00:28:17,041 Yeah, that was the last thing I expected 593 00:28:17,042 --> 00:28:18,825 to hear you say when you came back from your trip. 594 00:28:18,826 --> 00:28:20,697 Yeah. I didn't even know how to tell you. 595 00:28:20,698 --> 00:28:22,960 And then I talked to Lisa 596 00:28:22,961 --> 00:28:24,831 and I know that they were excited 597 00:28:24,832 --> 00:28:26,398 in that conversation to meet you. 598 00:28:26,399 --> 00:28:29,531 I mean, when they said that they were excited to see me 599 00:28:29,532 --> 00:28:31,490 and they wanted to meet me, and like, this was like, 600 00:28:31,491 --> 00:28:35,668 meant to be, like whatever, I was like, oh wow, like, 601 00:28:35,669 --> 00:28:38,018 maybe I, maybe like, I was right. 602 00:28:38,019 --> 00:28:39,759 Like, they are going to, they are excited, 603 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,195 they do wanna meet me. 604 00:28:41,196 --> 00:28:43,067 Like, you know what I mean? 605 00:28:43,068 --> 00:28:45,547 But it doesn't really feel like that now, you know. 606 00:28:45,548 --> 00:28:50,552 I know since they expressed interest in getting to know you, 607 00:28:50,553 --> 00:28:52,641 the communication between us 608 00:28:52,642 --> 00:28:54,208 has been a little rough with them. 609 00:28:54,209 --> 00:28:56,776 Yeah, I mean, I felt like it was a little cold and like, 610 00:28:56,777 --> 00:28:59,866 I didn't like how they phrased certain things about like, 611 00:28:59,867 --> 00:29:01,520 if I was ready or not. 612 00:29:01,521 --> 00:29:03,696 When I feel like I've always been ready. 613 00:29:03,697 --> 00:29:06,830 Like, that, that wasn't me that wasn't ever ready, you know. 614 00:29:06,831 --> 00:29:08,745 It was more on their side that wasn't ready. 615 00:29:08,746 --> 00:29:11,791 They didn't really seem like, excited, or like, ready 616 00:29:11,792 --> 00:29:13,358 to take the opportunity. 617 00:29:13,359 --> 00:29:15,403 It was kinda like, well I mean, I guess we will meet you. 618 00:29:15,404 --> 00:29:19,105 Like, it wasn't very loving, I feel like. 619 00:29:19,845 --> 00:29:21,409 Hmm. I understand that. 620 00:29:21,410 --> 00:29:24,021 After Lisa and I made this connection, 621 00:29:24,022 --> 00:29:25,805 Gwen wanted to meet them. 622 00:29:25,806 --> 00:29:27,372 She was super excited about it. 623 00:29:27,373 --> 00:29:30,027 And then we get a text from Gwen's grandmother 624 00:29:30,028 --> 00:29:33,378 that says they are looking forward to meeting Gwen 625 00:29:33,379 --> 00:29:35,815 but only if Gwen is in a place in her life 626 00:29:35,816 --> 00:29:37,950 where she's ready to accept them. 627 00:29:39,125 --> 00:29:40,907 And that turned her off. 628 00:29:40,908 --> 00:29:42,648 But even after the text, 629 00:29:42,649 --> 00:29:47,131 I know Gwen wants them so badly to want her. 630 00:29:47,132 --> 00:29:51,702 I feel like they had almost 18 years to reach out. 631 00:29:52,573 --> 00:29:55,966 I mean, they woke up every day and chose not to for 18 years. 632 00:29:55,967 --> 00:29:58,838 Like, that's, this isn't just the first chance 633 00:29:58,839 --> 00:30:00,187 that they've gotten and I feel like 634 00:30:00,188 --> 00:30:02,015 they've made how they feel pretty clear. 635 00:30:02,016 --> 00:30:04,975 And I wanna be really clear that I don't disagree 636 00:30:04,976 --> 00:30:06,280 with what you're saying. 637 00:30:06,281 --> 00:30:08,805 I think your curiosity is about your dad. 638 00:30:08,806 --> 00:30:11,895 And I think it's about putting together the pieces 639 00:30:11,896 --> 00:30:14,941 of who you are and who you've come from. 640 00:30:14,942 --> 00:30:16,987 I just think like, it's weird I've never, 641 00:30:16,988 --> 00:30:19,641 like I've seen one photo of him maybe four times. 642 00:30:19,642 --> 00:30:21,339 Like, that's not normal. 643 00:30:21,340 --> 00:30:23,863 Yeah. It's the only picture I have. 644 00:30:23,864 --> 00:30:25,299 I know. 645 00:30:25,300 --> 00:30:27,214 So, that's the only picture I can show you, yeah. 646 00:30:27,215 --> 00:30:29,477 But like, that's just weird. 647 00:30:29,478 --> 00:30:31,784 I just wanna feel like I know something about him. 648 00:30:31,785 --> 00:30:35,266 I want something like, tangible that I can be like, 649 00:30:35,267 --> 00:30:37,572 this is my dad, you know what I mean? 650 00:30:37,573 --> 00:30:40,751 And not have to like, have nothing. You know? 651 00:30:43,015 --> 00:30:46,668 But like, I can't do that unless I meet them 652 00:30:46,669 --> 00:30:49,846 or have a relationship with them because they're the people 653 00:30:49,847 --> 00:30:51,761 that like, know him best, you know. 654 00:30:56,506 --> 00:30:58,506 I really thought when you were born 655 00:30:58,507 --> 00:31:00,769 that if you didn't ever want anything, 656 00:31:00,770 --> 00:31:02,467 if I was like, a perfect parent, 657 00:31:02,468 --> 00:31:05,731 that you wouldn't miss something you didn't have. 658 00:31:05,732 --> 00:31:07,298 I kept saying to myself, 659 00:31:07,299 --> 00:31:09,213 it's not like he was here and then left. 660 00:31:09,214 --> 00:31:13,219 He was never here. It was always just you and I, right? 661 00:31:13,915 --> 00:31:15,872 It was more than enough for me. 662 00:31:15,873 --> 00:31:18,222 And so, I felt like maybe I could figure out a way 663 00:31:18,223 --> 00:31:19,963 to make that enough for you. 664 00:31:19,964 --> 00:31:22,445 And I don't think that was fair to you, Gwen. 665 00:31:23,142 --> 00:31:24,837 Of course you're gonna feel an absence. 666 00:31:24,838 --> 00:31:27,318 Of course you're gonna feel like 667 00:31:27,319 --> 00:31:30,236 I don't know a whole half of me. Right? 668 00:31:35,458 --> 00:31:38,895 Gwen is the only individual in this scenario 669 00:31:38,896 --> 00:31:40,679 who didn't make any choices. 670 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,942 And she is the only one in this scenario 671 00:31:42,943 --> 00:31:44,944 who feels the weight of all of the choices 672 00:31:44,945 --> 00:31:46,032 everyone else made for her. 673 00:31:46,033 --> 00:31:48,469 And that is something, that, 674 00:31:48,470 --> 00:31:50,254 that will keep me up at night. 675 00:31:50,255 --> 00:31:52,386 That will bother me. 676 00:31:52,387 --> 00:31:54,867 You deserve to hear about your dad from his family, 677 00:31:54,868 --> 00:31:57,087 who loved him, who knew him, 678 00:31:57,088 --> 00:31:58,612 who has all the information for you. 679 00:32:00,396 --> 00:32:01,528 Mm-hmm. 680 00:32:03,138 --> 00:32:05,095 I don't wanna push you into it. 681 00:32:05,096 --> 00:32:06,574 That's why I'm so conflicted 682 00:32:06,575 --> 00:32:08,533 'cause I don't like the way that it's happening. 683 00:32:08,534 --> 00:32:11,971 But also, I don't wanna be disappointed in myself 684 00:32:11,972 --> 00:32:13,973 that I didn't take the opportunity later on. 685 00:32:13,974 --> 00:32:15,803 I know. I know. 686 00:32:34,996 --> 00:32:36,780 - Hi, guys. - Welcome. 687 00:32:38,130 --> 00:32:39,999 - You guys excited? - Yeah, I'm scared! 688 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,827 It feels windy! 689 00:32:41,828 --> 00:32:43,655 Hey, girlies! 690 00:32:43,656 --> 00:32:45,135 Hi! 691 00:32:45,136 --> 00:32:46,440 Oh my gosh. 692 00:32:46,441 --> 00:32:48,401 Let's give her a hero's welcome. 693 00:32:50,185 --> 00:32:51,837 Welcome! 694 00:32:51,838 --> 00:32:53,404 Hello! 695 00:32:53,405 --> 00:32:55,319 I've lived in Utah for a long time. 696 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,277 I feel like I've done every single 697 00:32:57,278 --> 00:32:59,671 recreational activity that is available. 698 00:32:59,672 --> 00:33:04,023 But I have never gone ziplining. Until today. 699 00:33:04,024 --> 00:33:05,764 Put these on like a pair of shorts. 700 00:33:05,765 --> 00:33:07,113 I like a snug harness. 701 00:33:07,114 --> 00:33:08,897 I thought, who are the three people 702 00:33:08,898 --> 00:33:11,509 that I could actually convince to go ziplining with me? 703 00:33:11,510 --> 00:33:13,859 Come on over here, let's get some gloves. 704 00:33:13,860 --> 00:33:15,252 Oh, we need gloves, too. 705 00:33:15,253 --> 00:33:17,210 I came up with Mary Cosby, the great outdoorsman. 706 00:33:17,211 --> 00:33:20,344 - Ooh! - Oh my gosh! 707 00:33:20,345 --> 00:33:22,041 Watch your hair. Watch your hair. 708 00:33:22,042 --> 00:33:23,869 Britani, up for anything. 709 00:33:23,870 --> 00:33:26,350 Woo! Oh my gosh! 710 00:33:26,351 --> 00:33:28,700 And Lisa "likes everything" Barlow. 711 00:33:28,701 --> 00:33:31,877 Why do we have to bond over like, near-death experiences 712 00:33:31,878 --> 00:33:33,270 every time we're together? 713 00:33:33,271 --> 00:33:34,706 Everybody jump in here. 714 00:33:34,707 --> 00:33:37,448 We're gonna take ya in this Can-Am up to the top. 715 00:33:37,449 --> 00:33:40,277 Oh, Lord. This hasn't had a bath in 10 years. 716 00:33:40,278 --> 00:33:41,714 Do you think we're gonna get muddy? 717 00:33:43,673 --> 00:33:45,414 Oh, my God! 718 00:33:49,201 --> 00:33:50,548 Oh my gosh. 719 00:33:50,549 --> 00:33:52,854 - It's crazy! - It's snowing. 720 00:33:52,855 --> 00:33:54,900 - Good job! - Good job? 721 00:33:54,901 --> 00:33:58,904 Why did I wear white? What was I thinkin'? 722 00:33:58,905 --> 00:34:00,558 I ate it. I ate dirt. 723 00:34:00,559 --> 00:34:03,082 Got like chunks on your lips. 724 00:34:03,083 --> 00:34:07,393 At least I don't have mud all over my teeth like Heather does. 725 00:34:07,871 --> 00:34:11,003 Oh, I can't do it. I can't do it. I can't do it. 726 00:34:11,004 --> 00:34:13,223 Just use your muscle mass. 727 00:34:13,224 --> 00:34:15,444 Here we go. 728 00:34:17,620 --> 00:34:20,795 We'll send you guys down at the same time. Ready? 729 00:34:20,796 --> 00:34:22,971 I'm scared, I'm scared, I'm scared. 730 00:34:22,972 --> 00:34:23,972 I'm scared. 731 00:34:23,973 --> 00:34:25,322 I can't watch. 732 00:34:25,323 --> 00:34:27,106 You guys count down. 733 00:34:27,107 --> 00:34:29,327 Three, two, one, go! 734 00:34:33,201 --> 00:34:35,073 Oh my gosh! 735 00:34:40,078 --> 00:34:41,120 Woo! Ah! 736 00:34:41,121 --> 00:34:44,038 Woo! Yay! 737 00:34:47,476 --> 00:34:48,954 You were great, Mary. Good job! 738 00:34:48,955 --> 00:34:50,260 Thank you, Britani. 739 00:34:50,261 --> 00:34:51,870 Did you like it? Did you have fun? 740 00:34:51,871 --> 00:34:54,568 I loved it. Every time I get a chance to zipline, I do it. 741 00:34:54,569 --> 00:34:56,701 I love it. I've ziplined in Jamaica. 742 00:34:56,702 --> 00:34:58,877 I've ziplined on a Disney cruise. 743 00:34:58,878 --> 00:35:01,575 It just feels liberating, and it's fun. 744 00:35:01,576 --> 00:35:05,103 Harvey, we lived. Oh. 745 00:35:06,843 --> 00:35:09,149 - That was amazing. - Yay, we did it! 746 00:35:11,283 --> 00:35:12,456 Thank you! 747 00:35:12,457 --> 00:35:13,979 Thank you so much. That was great. 748 00:35:13,980 --> 00:35:16,199 We're gonna set up a little lunch right here. 749 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,940 Oh my gosh! Charcuterie? I love it! 750 00:35:18,941 --> 00:35:20,638 I got a table and chairs. 751 00:35:20,639 --> 00:35:22,161 This is where we're eating? 752 00:35:22,162 --> 00:35:23,641 Like, we're really roughing it today. 753 00:35:23,642 --> 00:35:25,382 Why are they pulling everything out of the trunk? 754 00:35:25,383 --> 00:35:27,166 Oh, and we have China. 755 00:35:27,167 --> 00:35:29,562 What? What are we doing? 756 00:35:32,042 --> 00:35:33,522 Tailgate? 757 00:35:34,044 --> 00:35:35,740 What is that? 758 00:35:35,741 --> 00:35:38,571 You mean like when we cook our food at the... 759 00:35:38,875 --> 00:35:42,444 When we have like, our ribs, and our barbecue and stuff? 760 00:35:43,010 --> 00:35:44,968 I brought something for you as a gift. 761 00:35:46,579 --> 00:35:49,623 What in the world? 762 00:35:49,624 --> 00:35:52,017 You did not. A unicorn? 763 00:35:52,018 --> 00:35:53,323 That is for you to remember 764 00:35:53,324 --> 00:35:55,325 that you're a strong, magical unicorn. 765 00:35:55,326 --> 00:35:57,109 I know you like unicorn gifts. 766 00:35:57,110 --> 00:35:58,328 Yes, yes. 767 00:35:58,329 --> 00:36:00,025 - Because you had your-- - It's an ashtray? 768 00:36:00,026 --> 00:36:01,679 No, I think it's a jewelry thing. 769 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,725 But when she got back from Milwaukee, Jared sent her like, 770 00:36:04,726 --> 00:36:06,553 four dozen roses and a giant, stuffed unicorn. 771 00:36:06,554 --> 00:36:09,165 But she broke up with him and wanted closure, 772 00:36:09,166 --> 00:36:11,950 and so I wanted to remind you that you might be alone, 773 00:36:11,951 --> 00:36:13,343 but you're strong. 774 00:36:13,344 --> 00:36:15,606 And how did the closure meeting go? 775 00:36:15,607 --> 00:36:17,564 Wait, did you meet up to break up? 776 00:36:17,565 --> 00:36:19,305 - Well, yeah. - Officially? 777 00:36:19,306 --> 00:36:20,567 I really don't wanna talk about it. 778 00:36:20,568 --> 00:36:22,482 I'm really kind of upset about it, actually. 779 00:36:22,483 --> 00:36:23,744 You're upset about what? 780 00:36:23,745 --> 00:36:25,790 I'm upset. I'm upset with you, Lisa. 781 00:36:25,791 --> 00:36:26,965 Me? 782 00:36:26,966 --> 00:36:28,575 Because, yes, because you grabbed my phone 783 00:36:28,576 --> 00:36:30,229 and you talked to Jared. 784 00:36:30,230 --> 00:36:31,709 You texted him, you FaceTimed him, 785 00:36:31,710 --> 00:36:32,840 and it caused this huge rift. 786 00:36:32,841 --> 00:36:34,755 Wait, wait, what caused the huge rift? 787 00:36:34,756 --> 00:36:37,715 - You! You caused the huge rift. - I caused a huge rift? 788 00:36:37,716 --> 00:36:39,543 I don't understand why you're so invested 789 00:36:39,544 --> 00:36:41,719 in me and my relationship. 790 00:36:41,720 --> 00:36:45,810 Okay. Why I'm so invested in your relationship? 791 00:36:45,811 --> 00:36:47,942 I don't understand why you would be mad at me 792 00:36:47,943 --> 00:36:51,381 because Jared's upset with you because we called him out 793 00:36:51,382 --> 00:36:52,860 for his bad behavior. 794 00:36:52,861 --> 00:36:54,688 Yeah, but like you acted on my behalf. 795 00:36:54,689 --> 00:36:56,560 Listen, and we were laughing about it. 796 00:36:56,561 --> 00:36:58,257 And we had the best time. 797 00:36:58,258 --> 00:36:59,476 But you were so mean to him. 798 00:36:59,477 --> 00:37:01,217 And it was someone that I cared about. 799 00:37:01,218 --> 00:37:03,262 - He deserved it. - How do you know? 800 00:37:03,263 --> 00:37:04,872 Because he was manipulating you. 801 00:37:04,873 --> 00:37:06,657 He literally was like, writing over and over again bestie. 802 00:37:06,658 --> 00:37:08,267 You're not even his girlfriend. 803 00:37:08,268 --> 00:37:09,747 I was his girlfriend. 804 00:37:09,748 --> 00:37:11,705 He just liked to be private about it. 805 00:37:11,706 --> 00:37:13,359 No, he's not private about it. 806 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,535 He is like, somebody that I would run from. 807 00:37:15,536 --> 00:37:18,277 Lisa, I just want to be in a good space with him 808 00:37:18,278 --> 00:37:19,931 where I can at least be friends. 809 00:37:19,932 --> 00:37:22,240 And what you did might have ruined it forever. 810 00:37:36,645 --> 00:37:38,602 I just want to be in a good space with him 811 00:37:38,603 --> 00:37:39,907 where I can at least be friends. 812 00:37:39,908 --> 00:37:42,301 And what you did might have ruined it forever. 813 00:37:42,302 --> 00:37:44,999 Okay, I'm so confused right now. 814 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,176 Britani, you were just thanking us all for like, 815 00:37:48,177 --> 00:37:49,613 building you up in Milwaukee 816 00:37:49,614 --> 00:37:52,180 and now you're mad at me for having a backbone for you. 817 00:37:52,181 --> 00:37:53,878 Thank God I took over your phone 818 00:37:53,879 --> 00:37:55,923 or you'd still be in this horrible relationship. 819 00:37:55,924 --> 00:37:57,795 Stay out of it. It's none of your business. 820 00:37:57,796 --> 00:38:00,580 - Fine, I'll stay out of it. - It's none of y'all's business. 821 00:38:00,581 --> 00:38:02,190 - Leave us out of it. - Gladly. 822 00:38:02,191 --> 00:38:04,454 'Cause you're wasting a lot of time about this. 823 00:38:04,455 --> 00:38:06,586 I will 100 percent leave you out of it. 824 00:38:06,587 --> 00:38:08,022 Good! Thank you so much. 825 00:38:08,023 --> 00:38:10,634 - Leave me out too! - Leave me out, three. 826 00:38:10,635 --> 00:38:11,722 Okay, you got it. 827 00:38:11,723 --> 00:38:13,985 Ain't nobody got time for this. 828 00:38:13,986 --> 00:38:15,682 Done. You know what? 829 00:38:15,683 --> 00:38:17,945 Let's just enjoy the day. 830 00:38:17,946 --> 00:38:19,207 Moving on. 831 00:38:19,208 --> 00:38:21,732 So, Heather, how are your girls? 832 00:38:21,733 --> 00:38:24,865 They're good. Oh, Mary, you saw Georgia! 833 00:38:24,866 --> 00:38:26,084 I did. 834 00:38:26,085 --> 00:38:28,347 - She said so much fun. - She's so sweet. 835 00:38:28,348 --> 00:38:29,783 - You saw Georgia? - Mm-hmm. 836 00:38:29,784 --> 00:38:31,742 Wait where did you see Georgia? 837 00:38:31,743 --> 00:38:34,222 Oh, I don't know. The wind blew her to me. 838 00:38:34,223 --> 00:38:36,616 And I blew it back. 839 00:38:36,617 --> 00:38:38,662 How did you see Georgia? I'm confused. 840 00:38:38,663 --> 00:38:40,185 I just said it. Through the wind. 841 00:38:40,186 --> 00:38:41,752 The wind blew us together. 842 00:38:41,753 --> 00:38:43,580 Georgia's in a professional dance group 843 00:38:43,581 --> 00:38:45,582 and Mary was there at the class. 844 00:38:45,583 --> 00:38:47,497 Oh my gosh. That's cool. 845 00:38:47,498 --> 00:38:49,150 Right? Is that kinda what it was? 846 00:38:49,151 --> 00:38:51,457 So, how did you end up at Georgia's dance class? 847 00:38:51,458 --> 00:38:53,503 I was just there for the sake of it. 848 00:38:53,504 --> 00:38:55,505 Trying to get a workout. 849 00:38:55,506 --> 00:38:57,115 Trying to get a workout? 850 00:38:57,116 --> 00:38:58,727 Little bit. 851 00:39:00,990 --> 00:39:04,731 What style is it? Is it like hip hop, classic? 852 00:39:04,732 --> 00:39:06,385 It was hip hop. 853 00:39:06,386 --> 00:39:09,693 - So many secrets going on. - I know, is it like secretive? 854 00:39:09,694 --> 00:39:12,086 Like, some clandestine dance class. 855 00:39:12,087 --> 00:39:14,045 I was with Angie. 856 00:39:14,046 --> 00:39:16,049 Oh fun. 857 00:39:17,137 --> 00:39:20,791 I haven't talked to Angie, not since Milwaukee. 858 00:39:20,792 --> 00:39:22,270 Why haven't you talked to her, Lisa? 859 00:39:22,271 --> 00:39:24,838 Why haven't I talked to Angie? I don't know. 860 00:39:24,839 --> 00:39:27,014 Yeah. Are you upset at her? 'Cause last I seen, 861 00:39:27,015 --> 00:39:28,233 you were calling her the B word. 862 00:39:28,234 --> 00:39:30,235 In Milwaukee I felt like she's not being 863 00:39:30,236 --> 00:39:32,411 a very good friend and I said it. I'm like, 864 00:39:32,412 --> 00:39:33,934 I don't think you're a good friend. 865 00:39:33,935 --> 00:39:36,110 - There has to be why. - I can talk to Angie about it. 866 00:39:36,111 --> 00:39:38,112 Because she's kinda being snarky about Lisa behind her back. 867 00:39:38,113 --> 00:39:40,724 She said I'm a bad mom. She insinuated I'm a bad mom. 868 00:39:40,725 --> 00:39:42,465 That's like the lowest blow. 869 00:39:42,466 --> 00:39:44,292 Now, that would piss me off so bad. 870 00:39:44,293 --> 00:39:47,426 You wanna talk about like, not coming from anything? 871 00:39:47,427 --> 00:39:49,733 That's where you go when you don't wanna come back. 872 00:39:49,734 --> 00:39:51,299 100 percent. It hurts. It hurts the most. 873 00:39:51,300 --> 00:39:53,519 The stakes are the highest with your own kids. 874 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,173 When Heather told me, I cried. 875 00:39:55,174 --> 00:39:57,218 Well, why didn't you contact her and ask her did she say it? 876 00:39:57,219 --> 00:39:59,612 She can call me and tell me what her new issue is with me. 877 00:39:59,613 --> 00:40:01,440 If you cried about something that somebody said, 878 00:40:01,441 --> 00:40:03,007 you address them not anyone else. 879 00:40:03,008 --> 00:40:04,661 I think it took you by surprise... 880 00:40:04,662 --> 00:40:06,184 I was shocked. 881 00:40:06,185 --> 00:40:07,968 ...that she would say something about you. 882 00:40:07,969 --> 00:40:10,318 It also feels like that you champion Lisa. 883 00:40:10,319 --> 00:40:11,711 I do champion Lisa. 884 00:40:11,712 --> 00:40:13,713 But you've known Angie since high school. 885 00:40:13,714 --> 00:40:16,977 I champion Angie as well. 886 00:40:16,978 --> 00:40:19,284 But in this situation, I'm on Lisa's side. 887 00:40:19,285 --> 00:40:23,723 I noticed that Heather says things that's very hurtful. 888 00:40:23,724 --> 00:40:25,551 She's always in the middle of something. 889 00:40:25,552 --> 00:40:27,727 But yet she hides her hands. 890 00:40:27,728 --> 00:40:30,338 She'll say stuff but then she's standing there 891 00:40:30,339 --> 00:40:31,688 like she's the innocent one. 892 00:40:31,689 --> 00:40:34,995 You've known Angie way longer than any of us. 893 00:40:34,996 --> 00:40:36,954 That doesn't mean I don't love and support Angie 894 00:40:36,955 --> 00:40:38,346 as a person and as my friend. 895 00:40:38,347 --> 00:40:40,348 I think Angie's just kinda taken Lisa for granted 896 00:40:40,349 --> 00:40:42,350 and she's kind of in this mode where she feels like 897 00:40:42,351 --> 00:40:44,657 she wants to change the terms of their friendship, 898 00:40:44,658 --> 00:40:47,138 but she hasn't really informed Lisa of how that's gonna happen. 899 00:40:47,139 --> 00:40:48,879 And she's just critical and snarky. 900 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,621 That's kinda two-faced, Heather. 901 00:40:51,622 --> 00:40:53,057 I don't feel like it is. 902 00:40:53,058 --> 00:40:54,667 I would say everything I'm saying right now, 903 00:40:54,668 --> 00:40:56,277 right to Angie's face. 904 00:40:56,278 --> 00:40:57,496 Oh God, here we go. 905 00:40:57,497 --> 00:41:00,238 My thing is with you, I feel like, 906 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:04,418 I feel like you leave a trail of lies. 907 00:41:05,463 --> 00:41:07,288 Like the black eye. 908 00:41:07,289 --> 00:41:08,466 What's wrong? 909 00:41:09,510 --> 00:41:11,162 I don't know how this happened. 910 00:41:11,163 --> 00:41:15,035 Then the fact that you champion body positivity 911 00:41:15,036 --> 00:41:17,431 and now that's a lie, too. 912 00:41:24,046 --> 00:41:25,916 Why are we saying she's a liar? 913 00:41:25,917 --> 00:41:27,874 Because she said body positivity is a lie. 914 00:41:27,875 --> 00:41:29,659 She didn't say I was lying about it. 915 00:41:29,660 --> 00:41:31,095 And it wasn't about me. 916 00:41:31,096 --> 00:41:32,749 I'm saying the fact that people say that they 917 00:41:32,750 --> 00:41:34,707 really champion people with different bodies 918 00:41:34,708 --> 00:41:37,407 but the truth is they champion people with beautiful bodies. 919 00:41:38,365 --> 00:41:39,407 And the truth is they just 920 00:41:39,408 --> 00:41:41,061 really all want you to be skinny. 921 00:41:41,062 --> 00:41:44,238 The entire world is criticizing the way that I'm losing weight 922 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,719 or not losing weight, or what I look like, Mary. 923 00:41:46,720 --> 00:41:48,286 I don't need it from you, too. 924 00:41:48,287 --> 00:41:50,854 I'm just trying to live my goddamn life. 925 00:41:50,855 --> 00:41:53,900 And have it not be about my body for once. 926 00:41:53,901 --> 00:41:55,902 I'm not trying to hurt you, Heather. 927 00:41:55,903 --> 00:41:57,469 I know you're not. 928 00:41:57,470 --> 00:41:59,819 But it's frustrating 'cause we need to figure this out. 929 00:41:59,820 --> 00:42:02,169 And it feels like we're at an impasse. 930 00:42:02,170 --> 00:42:03,521 We do. 931 00:42:05,087 --> 00:42:07,871 Next time on "The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City". 932 00:42:07,872 --> 00:42:09,568 Look at you! 933 00:42:09,569 --> 00:42:12,745 Shawn and I are celebrating our 25th wedding anniversary. 934 00:42:12,746 --> 00:42:14,660 And the theme? Mob wives. 935 00:42:14,661 --> 00:42:17,924 I was going for like, my Todd-father died 936 00:42:17,925 --> 00:42:19,447 and I'm still mourning him. 937 00:42:19,448 --> 00:42:22,015 You love to make stuff up that I don't say. 938 00:42:22,016 --> 00:42:23,669 I don't love to make stuff up. 939 00:42:23,670 --> 00:42:25,453 He verified that you were the one that fed the information. 940 00:42:25,454 --> 00:42:27,455 I did not do that! Shut the [bleep] up about that! 941 00:42:27,456 --> 00:42:30,154 You have to deal with the lies and sift through the sh--. 942 00:42:30,155 --> 00:42:32,462 - Don't call my wife a liar. - She's a liar, Justin.