Previously on "The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City".
- Milli-wau-kee! - Red, red, red, red!
This is the champagne of beers.
- What year is it? - He knows you.
Jared and I, we are broken up!
I love this. Yay!
Oh, Lord.
I don't think you've been a good friend to me lately.
Go hang out with everybody but me.
I'm here! Where were you this morning?
Call Elektra. Wait, isn't that what you do?
Hold on, it's Elektra.
Then Meredith said that people are talking about Prism.
That is----ed up.
I'm not sitting here trying to figure out your business.
I'm worrying about my own, not yours.
Well, you're certainly talking about it.
Okay, baby, I got your food. Henry! What are you doing?
Oh my gosh, you're in your gaming room?
- Yeah. - Okay, come get food.
I got what you wanted. Are you hungry?
For real, are you hungry?
No, not really.
Enough with the gaming.
[chanting]
Awesome! Well done.
So, what I'll do is I'll send you all of the prayers
with the translation and the transliteration
so that we can also discuss what they mean.
Well, I don't sing in public
so this is going to be very interesting.
Well, God will totally understand.
Guide me on the voice.
[laughs] You got it. For sure.
- Hey. - Hi, Lisa. Hi.
- How's it going? - Good.
Oh my gosh, I need this. Happy to see you too.
Are you guys ready?
I can bring you back whenever you guys are ready.
- We've had a rough week. - Yeah, we need it.
We have quite a bit to catch up on.
I've been thinking about you all weekend.
I know. I know, I know, I know.
I could have never imagined that like,
his family is Gwen's family.
Yeah.
Lisa and I are sitting at the airport.
We had a connecting flight back from Milwaukee.
And she said something to me and I made a face,
because I think I'm hilarious.
And she goes, "Oh, my God, you look like Gwen."
And I said, "No, I don't!"
And I opened my phone and I have this picture of Gwen's dad
and I said, "She looks just like her dad.
No one ever thinks she looks like me."
She pulls out a picture and I literally am like, "I know him!"
And she's like, "You know Gwen's dad?"
And I'm like, "Oh my gosh, I know his parents. Well."
Are you okay?
I mean, it's a lot. It's super complicated.
Mm-hmm.
I got pregnant with Gwen when I was 19 turning 20.
And her biological father was not involved,
and then passed away shortly after,
when she was turning two.
I didn't ever connect the dots.
That's intentional on my behalf.
I'm careful even still with Gwen because it's not for me
and my feelings and my experience to taint hers.
What happened?
It was my second year at BYU. I was 18.
I found out I was pregnant.
And so, he and I went to his parents' house and told them.
I literally can't imagine.
It wasn't a pleasant conversation with them.
His family lives in a very small town and I would say,
probably everybody in that town is Mormon.
His family absolutely is.
So, they were very shocked by this information.
I took a fair amount of the blame that night, yeah,
which is words I won't repeat.
But you know what the connotation is, right?
They were not supportive. I can just say that.
But it was a conversation that deeply hurt me.
Very quickly, the conversation
shifted to that I was awful
and damaged and disgraced and shameful.
I think uh, what they would have preferred
is if I'd like, said I was doing a study abroad
and went and just quietly had my pregnancy
and had the baby adopted.
Did they come right out and say that?
I left there knowing I was going to do this by myself.
Wow.
I was very clear on that, yes.
Wow. How did he feel?
Uh, I think he had decided
it wasn't something he was gonna be a part of.
So, I moved home.
How did your family handle it?
They were not jazzed about it either.
My dad was the recorder
at the temple in Oakland at the time,
which is also not a position you want to be
welcoming home your single, pregnant child, right?
It's a lot.
It's embarrassing for my family.
It was never embarrassing for me.
I just didn't, I frankly didn't have time
to be embarrassed about it.
Well, I mean, like, Bronwyn, this is so much
on a young, 19-year-old girl.
It very much strained my relationship with my mom.
For a long time afterwards. A long time.
It is a total mind-[bleep] to think I, this is the best thing
I've ever done and so many people thought it was the worst
thing I've ever done.
And I didn't know what was gonna happen with her dad.
I thought there's no way that this person can know
I have a child somewhere and someday not come for her, right?
- Someday did not register. - Did they not know?
Um, no my dad, my dad called
um, Gwen's dad and her, I guess, grandparents,
and I'm still waiting for a phone call back.
She's gonna be 18 in a couple months, you know.
And when Gwen was like, 18 months or two at the time,
I found out on Facebook, I saw someone had commented
on an obituary
with a picture of Gwen's dad on it.
I just, my heart breaks for all of you.
I was with Gwen's dad's family
after he passed
and I know how devastating it is from their side.
And then to hear it from Bronwyn's side.
I mean, it's breaking my heart all over again.
For everybody.
I am having a hard time, Lisa.
I'm having a hard time reconciling
this wonderful family that you know.
With the family that has not made time in 18 years
to ever get to know my child, you know.
I know that there's pain on both sides.
Yeah, of course.
Gwen's grandmother.
I told her exactly what happened in the airport
and I said, "What are the chances?"
And she's like, "It's time."
I think there's regret and hurt there.
And they were like,
"We want to be a part of Gwen's life.
If she wants to be a part of our life, we really want it."
[sniffles]
Gwen wants to know about her dad,
and I think that that is a very natural curiosity
and she should know everything that she wants to about him.
I told her this came up.
I think she was very surprised by it so we kind of eased
into that conversation.
So, I don't know where it goes.
I want it to go somewhere wonderful for her.
I really do. Um...
Same.
But it is going to physically pain me
to watch her be close with them.
It will. It will.
- Mm-hmm. - Yeah.
Heather!
What's up? One piece crew!
[Whitney laughs]
What kind of dance move was that?
Get your stuff, let's go.
- Okay, here we go. - You got it. You got it.
- I'll take up the rear. - Like a little duckling.
- Oh, my god. - Good job, Brit!
♪ Ah, ah, ah
Woo!
Hey.
Look at that view. That's beautiful.
Cute like, snaps.
Yay, the cousins. The cousins and me.
- Speaking of videos. - Yeah, oh my gosh.
What was that video? Does, has she seen it?
No.
She sent me a video the night she got back from Milwaukee.
- You won't believe it. - Britani did?
Yeah. Press play.
I just walked in from Milwaukee and this is sitting on my desk.
There's four dozen roses from my favorite florist
and this beautiful card from Jared.
He wants to meet up with me, obviously.
He's sending me flowers. He's writing me love notes.
No.
So, are you considering meeting up with him?
Yeah, I'm thinking about it.
I do feel like he deserves closure.
And the way, the snarky texts that I sent,
I feel like I owe it to him to hear him out.
I know that you want love.
But it's getting a little complicated.
'Cause one minute we're all pro-Jared.
Not everyone was pro-Jared, I'll tell you that.
Lisa was so anti-Jared. It really affected what I did.
And maybe it was for the best.
But then I just think she's way too invested
in my personal life.
I felt a little bit bothered by that, you know.
I'm really upset and hurt by Lisa right now.
Why?
She gave me the biggest F-U ever.
After we got home from our trip, Charles from the Kinn called me.
Does it say Prism on the box?
- Yes. - What room was it in?
406.
It was Lisa Barlow's.
- No. - Mm-hmm.
Here's the thing. You know, I was going hard for Meredith
that night, 'cause why are you talking about my business?
And her in the past.
What?
Lisa's who told Meredith about it.
Lisa told Meredith about it?
Lisa told Meredith. Meredith told me. I told you.
But like, it's more than the business stuff.
It feels like you're taking it really personally.
Because I feel like it is personal.
This is my business, my brand,
and it's not just something that popped up.
I feel like this was planted.
- By who? - By Lisa?
After I got that call from Charles at the Kinn,
I started thinking, Lisa is vindictive.
She must still be mad at me over the podcast.
Lisa has always been the villain.
Because why else would she toss the necklace I gifted her
into the trash?
If Lisa's the one who brought it up.
That is really hurtful, Whitney.
And now, hearing that Lisa started this rumor
and not Meredith, I think I have this wrong.
You need to get to the bottom of that.
I need to get to the bottom of all of it.
Robert! Robert!
Robert.
- You good, babe? - Mm-hmm.
Did you eat?
I'm getting ready to go to a dance class.
For what?
It's, it's used for good purposes, right?
Like, you know like your body's like a plant.
And if you don't water a plant, if you don't feed a plant,
what happens to it?
It dies.
We don't want that.
I do support Robert but I also want him to get a job.
I want him to be responsible. I want him to be disciplined.
But right now he's just not in a good space to be working
because I just feel like he won't be focused,
the attention span will be bad, and he won't perform.
It has a lot to do with his lifestyle.
Love you too, babe.
Bless him, Lord.
[phone rings]
Your charity awaits, my lady.
Okay, see you in a minute.
- Hi, how are you? - Good.
My pants are so tight I gotta find a way to maneuver.
- It smells like onions in here. - Does it? Oh, God.
- You hate onions. - Did you have onions?
No, I didn't have onions.
Welcome, welcome to class, y'all.
We're gonna start with a bounce
because we are doing some hip hop.
Yes, step in here, step in there.
- Hi! So good to see you. - So good to see you.
This is gonna be so fun.
Well, this really shows Mary and I's level of expertise
in the dance department.
We are in a dance class with Georgia Gay, who is a teenager.
- You're gonna have to help me. - Okay, I'll help you too.
Like I'm your mom.
I'd like to think I'm a younger version of Jennifer Grey.
But I don't even think these kids are old enough
to watch Dirty Dancing.
Go in, go out. Single, single, double, double.
- Hi. - Hi, what's the name?
Heather. It should be for two for the salt caves.
- Yeah. - Perfect, thank you.
Hey, how are you? Good to see you.
Are you ready for a salt cave?
Yeah, I probably need it.
I can take you guys back.
Will you tell us about it, too? Like, this is so cool.
I didn't even know we had these here.
So, the room is made out of 16 tons of Himalayan salt.
What do you mean, like this brick is salt?
Yep, all the brick. It's all salt.
Who even thinks this up?
When you're surrounded by this much salt
there's a negative ion healing effect that happens in your body
so it's super grounding and relaxing
just to be sitting in this room.
Uh, may I get some tea? Do you want some?
- I'll go put some hot water. - Yeah, thank you.
I would love a tea, too. I'm scared to get in it.
Oh, it's chilly. It feels good.
- It's cold? - Yeah, it's cold.
Oh my gosh, this is much different
than the Costco Himalayan sea salt that I buy in bulk.
Yeah. This feels so good.
- Here's the tea for you ladies. - Thank you.
Be careful not to spill it on the salt
'cause it will dissolve it.
- Oh my gosh. - Thank you.
Is it burning hot? Burning? Burning?
Burning hot. Oh my gosh, let it chill. Let it chill.
I have no more tastebuds on my tongue.
[both laugh]
Jam it out. Jam it out. Jam it out.
Thank you guys again for coming through.
[all cheer]
This was so fun. Mary. Gorgeous outfit.
Woo!
Do you wanna cool off for a minute?
I feel like we haven't talked since the trip.
I don't know if you had fun. I had fun.
Oh, the trip, I loved the trip.
But I left there just really emotional.
Well, you did have a little blowout.
Mary, my exchange with Lisa was so bad.
Saying that like oh, I say I've got to go to
take care of my daughter.
That's when the conversation starts at lunch
and it's now dinnertime.
I mean, I'm a committed mother.
I'm home for my daughter, I'm there for my daughter
because my mom wasn't there for me.
And for her to bring that up, that was like, that was low.
Lisa's had a problem with every single one of her friends.
She had a problem with Jen, Heather, Meredith,
Whitney, Angie H, Monica, Mary,
and now me.
There's a reason no one can keep Lisa happy.
She's impossible.
Mary, we were like sisters. We talked multiple times a day.
And now I don't hear from her anymore and Heather's telling me
it's because of me.
What?
Heather's blaming me, that I pulled away
or I'm not calling Lisa as much.
She's totally siding with Lisa.
How do you feel after the trip?
I haven't recovered yet, you know?
The Harley Museum was so weird, you know.
I feel like Angie is changing the terms of your friendship.
Like, I feel like she's challenging you unnecessarily.
You don't like that I'm not just doing
whatever you want me to do.
I don't give a [bleep] what you do!
Yes, you do!
Don't do that to me, you - ing bitch! Don't do that!
I'm---ing pissed at you.
- Thank you, I feel that too. - I feel like it's mean.
I don't like the way she's treating you.
It feels, it feels sh---- I'll tell you that much.
I think it feels sh---y too.
Like, she was upset, I mean, after Harley-Davidson.
We talked the next morning and she like, threw out some jabs.
Like what?
She was being mean. She said my daughter needs me.
Like, she's just not in the room playing video games.
I think the biggest thing that hit me last night
was Lisa saying that I'm not a good friend.
And then for her to bring up that I hang up with her
because I use, oh I've got to go, Elektra needs me.
My daughter does need me. She needs a present mother.
Like, I don't let her sit and---ing game
'til two in the morning.
So, I can like leave the computer
as a----ing babysitter.
Oh. Oh, wow. She's talking about my parenting?
I'm like a great mom. What is she talking about?
It felt like a dig.
Yeah, that sounds like a big dig.
It felt like Elektra requires more than Henry
and you don't understand that.
And she can't take time away from Elektra to be your friend.
You know what? If I'm a sh-- mom,
my kids are doing pretty good for having this sh---y mother.
I think I could have gone my whole life and never told Lisa
what Angie said.
But I thought what Angie said was mean
and was not indicative of the way that I've known Angie
to feel about Lisa.
And it just felt like something Lisa should know.
She can take the mother of the year award.
That's a----ing low blow.
Like, I am actually really - ing mad right now.
I am constantly criticized
by people that don't even know me
about how I am as a mother
because I'm a public figure.
So, to have someone that you consider to be a close friend
judge you for how you are as mom,
is like the worst cut.
I do everything for my kids, with my kids.
For her to say that is so----ing rude.
I think you need to get to the root of it with Angie.
Like, what is her issue with you?
It's not just personality critiques
or friendship critiques.
Like, she's coming after you and I don't know why.
And neither do I. Neither do I.
Are you ready to go to soccer?
Always.
Has anyone noticed that I gained
about seven new piercings in my earlobe?
Babe what are you doing with your ears?
I want my second piercing.
Can you take me to get my second piercing?
Let's set a goal and if you meet the goal
you can get a second piercing.
You said I could get a second piercing already. Remember?
Yes. I get that she's 14 and she's growing up.
- 'K, have fun at soccer, babe. - Love you.
All of her friends have piercings,
but it's like the wholesomeness and the virtue
of being a little kid.
I think I'm just trying to like,
hold on to that as long as I can.
I still can't believe that we moved into a home
that has a view of a temple from most of the windows.
Hey, but it raises your property value.
That's what they say.
Oh, it's Adam.
Hello?
- Hey. - Hey, how's it going?
Oh, my God. So, I was calling you
because I didn't realize
that it was somebody that you're close to
who was putting this information out.
Adam is a casual friend of mine who is also a podcaster.
And he is friends with the person that runs the account
that posted that Prism's jewelry comes from Alibaba.
So, I asked Adam to reach out to the account
to see if he could find out who fed this story.
Because I have my suspicions but I need the proof.
Just tell me. What was your conversation?
Because this is my business. My brand, my reputation.
I was trying to do my best to figure out who this person was.
And they said it's definitely somebody in your group.
And I said, "Can you tell me who it is?"
They said, "Well I can't tell you who it is
but you can ask me questions."
And I said, "Does this person have a jewelry brand?"
They said, "No."
I said, "Does this person have a beauty brand?"
They said, "No."
And then I said, "Does this person have a liquor brand?"
And they said, "Yes."
And I was, like, oh, my God.
No one in my friend group has a liquor brand
besides Lisa Barlow.
Right.
Like catching Lisa in this,
especially after the outrage at Reality Von Tease.
Let me just process this for a minute
and then I'll reach back out to you.
- Talk to you soon. - Okay, take care. Bye.
On one hand, it's like, it's validating,
but at the same time, I really didn't want it to be true
because it means I have a friendship
that potentially was never real in the first place.
Holy sh--, babe.
Well, hey.
- Your guy's already here. - Is he here already?
Right there for you.
- Hi, how are you? - Can I have a hug?
Yeah, yeah, we can hug.
[sighs]
How are you?
[sighs] Great.
How are you?
- I'm nervous. - Why are you nervous?
I make you nervous?
No, I'm just, I'm just nervous.
I know that when I get in front of Jared,
he's very convincing.
I would say even manipulative.
And I have a really hard time standing my ground
and staying broken up.
It's good to see you, though.
It's been my pattern over and over.
Is it okay if take your food order right now?
Let's just do a charcuterie board.
Yeah, let's kind of go from there. Appreciate that.
But he's been asking and asking to have some closure,
and I feel like I owe him that.
- You look beautiful. - Thank you.
- I've missed you. - I've missed you too.
Yeah. It's a tough transition, to be honest.
I didn't see it coming.
What makes this different than every other breakup?
You went to Milwaukee, and when you left,
I thought it was all sunshine and roses.
And right before the game, you sent me a little video
and you said, hey.
I'll call you when the game's over, babe.
Yes.
The next day rolls around. Ghosted me.
And then, that second night,
I get a FaceTime call on your phone
and I'm like, "Oh, finally.
Oh, good, I have a chance to resolve it."
And it's Lisa Barlow.
And she's been reading my text messages.
What the hell, Brit?
On the way home from the drag bar,
Lisa grabs my phone and starts messaging Jared
really mean things.
And she FaceTimed them and then started singing to him
some kind of song about besties and yada yada,
because Jared calls me his best friend
and she thought that was ridiculous.
This is what I have a real problem with.
Private conversations between people that love each other
are private.
In the moment I felt appreciative of Lisa
because I feel like she's got good intentions
and I like that she's looking out for me,
but in hindsight, it was terrible to let Lisa do that.
Our life, it should be private.
It's okay to have a public side, a public persona.
Well, see, you wanted it private,
but I don't necessarily want it private.
I just want to be...
Okay, well then we had a difference.
...how we are to everybody.
When we're out, I hold your hand.
When we're together, I've kissed you in public.
Why is that even an issue though?
Do you take any accountability for me not feeling safe?
I take lots of accountability. I... feeling safe?
Yeah.
He doesn't ever post about me on social media.
He won't get off dating apps.
And when we walk by cute girls, he'll drop my hand.
The most important part of a relationship
is the part that makes you feel like you're in a relationship,
and that part is not there.
Jared, you are my best friend,
but are you willing
to make me feel safe
and do the things that are uncomfortable for you
to make me feel safe?
And I don't have to be so confused all the time.
I've shown up every day for you, Britani, and that's not enough.
That's not answering the question.
I've given you everything I can. I'm here.
Well, that's the answer to my question.
You've given me everything you can.
I have. Okay, and it's not enough, Britani.
- So, that's a no. - Okay.
It's a no.
I'm a really good guy, Britani. It's okay.
I don't wanna lose the relationship.
But you and I just don't understand each other.
So, let's just put a pin in it.
Okay.
- Hello. - Hi.
I haven't seen you for a few days.
- I know. - I got cookies.
So, I got myself the Lucky Charms one.
- Do you want chocolate? - Um, no.
You want just chocolate chip? I'm glad you're back.
Gwen's been with my mom and dad in San Francisco
for a couple days.
As soon as I came back from Milwaukee, Gwen and I talked.
This isn't something I could kind of keep to myself.
I wanted to tell her right away.
And I wanted her to have some time not with me
so that she could have some space to think about it.
Gosh, Freddy's so heavy now.
Let's go, come on.
Also, it was really important for me to have some space
to center back on the mom
that I want to be to Gwen in this scenario.
Okay, come up here, girls.
Come here. Come on, sweet girl.
Um, I don't even know what to say, Gwen.
It was so bizarre in the airport
sitting there chatting with Lisa.
When I told Todd, he was like,
I've never even seen a picture of Gwen's dad.
I can't believe you just whipped a picture out and showed Lisa.
And I wasn't thinking, obviously.
I didn't know they knew each other.
And then that spiraled out of control.
She's good friends with them.
Yeah, that was the last thing I expected
to hear you say when you came back from your trip.
Yeah. I didn't even know how to tell you.
And then I talked to Lisa
and I know that they were excited
in that conversation to meet you.
I mean, when they said that they were excited to see me
and they wanted to meet me, and like, this was like,
meant to be, like whatever, I was like, oh wow, like,
maybe I, maybe like, I was right.
Like, they are going to, they are excited,
they do wanna meet me.
Like, you know what I mean?
But it doesn't really feel like that now, you know.
I know since they expressed interest in getting to know you,
the communication between us
has been a little rough with them.
Yeah, I mean, I felt like it was a little cold and like,
I didn't like how they phrased certain things about like,
if I was ready or not.
When I feel like I've always been ready.
Like, that, that wasn't me that wasn't ever ready, you know.
It was more on their side that wasn't ready.
They didn't really seem like, excited, or like, ready
to take the opportunity.
It was kinda like, well I mean, I guess we will meet you.
Like, it wasn't very loving, I feel like.
Hmm. I understand that.
After Lisa and I made this connection,
Gwen wanted to meet them.
She was super excited about it.
And then we get a text from Gwen's grandmother
that says they are looking forward to meeting Gwen
but only if Gwen is in a place in her life
where she's ready to accept them.
And that turned her off.
But even after the text,
I know Gwen wants them so badly to want her.
I feel like they had almost 18 years to reach out.
I mean, they woke up every day and chose not to for 18 years.
Like, that's, this isn't just the first chance
that they've gotten and I feel like
they've made how they feel pretty clear.
And I wanna be really clear that I don't disagree
with what you're saying.
I think your curiosity is about your dad.
And I think it's about putting together the pieces
of who you are and who you've come from.
I just think like, it's weird I've never,
like I've seen one photo of him maybe four times.
Like, that's not normal.
Yeah. It's the only picture I have.
I know.
So, that's the only picture I can show you, yeah.
But like, that's just weird.
I just wanna feel like I know something about him.
I want something like, tangible that I can be like,
this is my dad, you know what I mean?
And not have to like, have nothing. You know?
But like, I can't do that unless I meet them
or have a relationship with them because they're the people
that like, know him best, you know.
[Bronwyn sighs]
I really thought when you were born
that if you didn't ever want anything,
if I was like, a perfect parent,
that you wouldn't miss something you didn't have.
I kept saying to myself,
it's not like he was here and then left.
He was never here. It was always just you and I, right?
It was more than enough for me.
And so, I felt like maybe I could figure out a way
to make that enough for you.
And I don't think that was fair to you, Gwen.
Of course you're gonna feel an absence.
Of course you're gonna feel like
I don't know a whole half of me. Right?
Gwen is the only individual in this scenario
who didn't make any choices.
And she is the only one in this scenario
who feels the weight of all of the choices
everyone else made for her.
And that is something, that,
that will keep me up at night.
That will bother me.
You deserve to hear about your dad from his family,
who loved him, who knew him,
who has all the information for you.
Mm-hmm.
I don't wanna push you into it.
That's why I'm so conflicted
'cause I don't like the way that it's happening.
But also, I don't wanna be disappointed in myself
that I didn't take the opportunity later on.
I know. I know.
- Hi, guys. - Welcome.
- You guys excited? - Yeah, I'm scared!
It feels windy!
Hey, girlies!
Hi!
Oh my gosh.
Let's give her a hero's welcome.
Welcome!
Hello!
I've lived in Utah for a long time.
I feel like I've done every single
recreational activity that is available.
But I have never gone ziplining. Until today.
Put these on like a pair of shorts.
I like a snug harness.
I thought, who are the three people
that I could actually convince to go ziplining with me?
Come on over here, let's get some gloves.
Oh, we need gloves, too.
I came up with Mary Cosby, the great outdoorsman.
- Ooh! - Oh my gosh!
Watch your hair. Watch your hair.
Britani, up for anything.
Woo! Oh my gosh!
And Lisa "likes everything" Barlow.
Why do we have to bond over like, near-death experiences
every time we're together?
Everybody jump in here.
We're gonna take ya in this Can-Am up to the top.
Oh, Lord. This hasn't had a bath in 10 years.
Do you think we're gonna get muddy?
[all squealing]
Oh, my God!
[all laughing and screaming]
Oh my gosh.
- It's crazy! - It's snowing.
- Good job! - Good job?
Why did I wear white? What was I thinkin'?
I ate it. I ate dirt.
Got like chunks on your lips.
At least I don't have mud all over my teeth like Heather does.
Oh, I can't do it. I can't do it. I can't do it.
Just use your muscle mass.
Here we go.
We'll send you guys down at the same time. Ready?
I'm scared, I'm scared, I'm scared.
I'm scared.
I can't watch.
You guys count down.
Three, two, one, go!
[all shouting]
Oh my gosh!
Woo! Ah!
Woo! Yay!
You were great, Mary. Good job!
Thank you, Britani.
Did you like it? Did you have fun?
I loved it. Every time I get a chance to zipline, I do it.
I love it. I've ziplined in Jamaica.
I've ziplined on a Disney cruise.
It just feels liberating, and it's fun.
Harvey, we lived. Oh.
- That was amazing. - Yay, we did it!
[all cheering indistinctly]
Thank you!
Thank you so much. That was great.
We're gonna set up a little lunch right here.
Oh my gosh! Charcuterie? I love it!
I got a table and chairs.
This is where we're eating?
Like, we're really roughing it today.
Why are they pulling everything out of the trunk?
Oh, and we have China.
What? What are we doing?
Tailgate?
What is that?
You mean like when we cook our food at the...
When we have like, our ribs, and our barbecue and stuff?
I brought something for you as a gift.
What in the world? [laughs]
You did not. A unicorn?
That is for you to remember
that you're a strong, magical unicorn.
I know you like unicorn gifts.
Yes, yes.
- Because you had your-- - It's an ashtray?
No, I think it's a jewelry thing.
But when she got back from Milwaukee, Jared sent her like,
four dozen roses and a giant, stuffed unicorn.
But she broke up with him and wanted closure,
and so I wanted to remind you that you might be alone,
but you're strong.
And how did the closure meeting go?
Wait, did you meet up to break up?
- Well, yeah. - Officially?
I really don't wanna talk about it.
I'm really kind of upset about it, actually.
You're upset about what?
I'm upset. I'm upset with you, Lisa.
Me?
Because, yes, because you grabbed my phone
and you talked to Jared.
You texted him, you FaceTimed him,
and it caused this huge rift.
Wait, wait, what caused the huge rift?
- You! You caused the huge rift. - I caused a huge rift?
I don't understand why you're so invested
in me and my relationship.
Okay. Why I'm so invested in your relationship?
I don't understand why you would be mad at me
because Jared's upset with you because we called him out
for his bad behavior.
Yeah, but like you acted on my behalf.
Listen, and we were laughing about it.
And we had the best time.
But you were so mean to him.
And it was someone that I cared about.
- He deserved it. - How do you know?
Because he was manipulating you.
He literally was like, writing over and over again bestie.
You're not even his girlfriend.
I was his girlfriend.
He just liked to be private about it.
No, he's not private about it.
He is like, somebody that I would run from.
Lisa, I just want to be in a good space with him
where I can at least be friends.
And what you did might have ruined it forever.
I just want to be in a good space with him
where I can at least be friends.
And what you did might have ruined it forever.
Okay, I'm so confused right now.
Britani, you were just thanking us all for like,
building you up in Milwaukee
and now you're mad at me for having a backbone for you.
Thank God I took over your phone
or you'd still be in this horrible relationship.
Stay out of it. It's none of your business.
- Fine, I'll stay out of it. - It's none of y'all's business.
- Leave us out of it. - Gladly.
'Cause you're wasting a lot of time about this.
I will 100 percent leave you out of it.
Good! Thank you so much.
- Leave me out too! - Leave me out, three.
Okay, you got it.
Ain't nobody got time for this.
Done. You know what?
Let's just enjoy the day.
Moving on.
So, Heather, how are your girls?
They're good. Oh, Mary, you saw Georgia!
I did.
- She said so much fun. - She's so sweet.
- You saw Georgia? - Mm-hmm.
Wait where did you see Georgia?
Oh, I don't know. The wind blew her to me.
And I blew it back.
How did you see Georgia? I'm confused.
I just said it. Through the wind.
The wind blew us together.
Georgia's in a professional dance group
and Mary was there at the class.
Oh my gosh. That's cool.
Right? Is that kinda what it was?
So, how did you end up at Georgia's dance class?
I was just there for the sake of it.
Trying to get a workout.
Trying to get a workout?
Little bit.
What style is it? Is it like hip hop, classic?
It was hip hop.
- So many secrets going on. - I know, is it like secretive?
Like, some clandestine dance class.
I was with Angie.
Oh fun.
I haven't talked to Angie, not since Milwaukee.
Why haven't you talked to her, Lisa?
Why haven't I talked to Angie? I don't know.
Yeah. Are you upset at her? 'Cause last I seen,
you were calling her the B word.
In Milwaukee I felt like she's not being
a very good friend and I said it. I'm like,
I don't think you're a good friend.
- There has to be why. - I can talk to Angie about it.
Because she's kinda being snarky about Lisa behind her back.
She said I'm a bad mom. She insinuated I'm a bad mom.
That's like the lowest blow.
Now, that would piss me off so bad.
You wanna talk about like, not coming from anything?
That's where you go when you don't wanna come back.
100 percent. It hurts. It hurts the most.
The stakes are the highest with your own kids.
When Heather told me, I cried.
Well, why didn't you contact her and ask her did she say it?
She can call me and tell me what her new issue is with me.
If you cried about something that somebody said,
you address them not anyone else.
I think it took you by surprise...
I was shocked.
...that she would say something about you.
It also feels like that you champion Lisa.
I do champion Lisa.
But you've known Angie since high school.
I champion Angie as well.
But in this situation, I'm on Lisa's side.
I noticed that Heather says things that's very hurtful.
She's always in the middle of something.
But yet she hides her hands.
She'll say stuff but then she's standing there
like she's the innocent one.
You've known Angie way longer than any of us.
That doesn't mean I don't love and support Angie
as a person and as my friend.
I think Angie's just kinda taken Lisa for granted
and she's kind of in this mode where she feels like
she wants to change the terms of their friendship,
but she hasn't really informed Lisa of how that's gonna happen.
And she's just critical and snarky.
That's kinda two-faced, Heather.
I don't feel like it is.
I would say everything I'm saying right now,
right to Angie's face.
Oh God, here we go.
My thing is with you, I feel like,
I feel like you leave a trail of lies.
Like the black eye.
What's wrong?
I don't know how this happened.
Then the fact that you champion body positivity
and now that's a lie, too.
Why are we saying she's a liar?
Because she said body positivity is a lie.
She didn't say I was lying about it.
And it wasn't about me.
I'm saying the fact that people say that they
really champion people with different bodies
but the truth is they champion people with beautiful bodies.
And the truth is they just
really all want you to be skinny.
The entire world is criticizing the way that I'm losing weight
or not losing weight, or what I look like, Mary.
I don't need it from you, too.
I'm just trying to live my goddamn life.
And have it not be about my body for once.
I'm not trying to hurt you, Heather.
I know you're not.
But it's frustrating 'cause we need to figure this out.
And it feels like we're at an impasse.
We do.
Next time on "The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City".
Look at you!
Shawn and I are celebrating our 25th wedding anniversary.
And the theme? Mob wives.
I was going for like, my Todd-father died
and I'm still mourning him.
You love to make stuff up that I don't say.
I don't love to make stuff up.
He verified that you were the one that fed the information.
I did not do that! Shut the [bleep] up about that!
You have to deal with the lies and sift through the sh--.
- Don't call my wife a liar. - She's a liar, Justin.