1 00:00:04,091 --> 00:00:06,788 Previously on "The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City". 2 00:00:06,789 --> 00:00:09,834 - Milli-wau-kee! - Red, red, red, red! 3 00:00:09,835 --> 00:00:11,097 This is the champagne of beers. 4 00:00:11,098 --> 00:00:13,055 - What year is it? - He knows you. 5 00:00:13,056 --> 00:00:17,364 Jared and I, we are broken up! 6 00:00:17,365 --> 00:00:19,018 I love this. Yay! 7 00:00:19,019 --> 00:00:20,497 Oh, Lord. 8 00:00:20,498 --> 00:00:22,456 I don't think you've been a good friend to me lately. 9 00:00:22,457 --> 00:00:23,979 Go hang out with everybody but me. 10 00:00:23,980 --> 00:00:25,241 I'm here! Where were you this morning? 11 00:00:25,242 --> 00:00:27,243 Call Elektra. Wait, isn't that what you do? 12 00:00:27,244 --> 00:00:29,245 Hold on, it's Elektra. 13 00:00:29,246 --> 00:00:32,857 Then Meredith said that people are talking about Prism. 14 00:00:32,858 --> 00:00:34,468 That is----ed up. 15 00:00:34,469 --> 00:00:37,210 I'm not sitting here trying to figure out your business. 16 00:00:37,211 --> 00:00:39,125 I'm worrying about my own, not yours. 17 00:00:39,126 --> 00:00:41,563 Well, you're certainly talking about it. 18 00:00:52,704 --> 00:00:57,709 Okay, baby, I got your food. Henry! What are you doing? 19 00:00:59,494 --> 00:01:01,843 Oh my gosh, you're in your gaming room? 20 00:01:01,844 --> 00:01:03,584 - Yeah. - Okay, come get food. 21 00:01:03,585 --> 00:01:06,153 I got what you wanted. Are you hungry? 22 00:01:08,242 --> 00:01:10,112 For real, are you hungry? 23 00:01:10,113 --> 00:01:11,766 No, not really. 24 00:01:11,767 --> 00:01:14,465 Enough with the gaming. 25 00:01:25,041 --> 00:01:29,698 [chanting] 26 00:01:32,048 --> 00:01:34,876 Awesome! Well done. 27 00:01:34,877 --> 00:01:38,053 So, what I'll do is I'll send you all of the prayers 28 00:01:38,054 --> 00:01:40,534 with the translation and the transliteration 29 00:01:40,535 --> 00:01:42,362 so that we can also discuss what they mean. 30 00:01:42,363 --> 00:01:44,190 Well, I don't sing in public 31 00:01:44,191 --> 00:01:46,366 so this is going to be very interesting. 32 00:01:46,367 --> 00:01:49,151 Well, God will totally understand. 33 00:01:49,152 --> 00:01:50,979 Guide me on the voice. 34 00:01:50,980 --> 00:01:52,808 [laughs] You got it. For sure. 35 00:02:10,913 --> 00:02:12,261 - Hey. - Hi, Lisa. Hi. 36 00:02:12,262 --> 00:02:14,263 - How's it going? - Good. 37 00:02:14,264 --> 00:02:16,744 Oh my gosh, I need this. Happy to see you too. 38 00:02:16,745 --> 00:02:18,224 Are you guys ready? 39 00:02:18,225 --> 00:02:20,139 I can bring you back whenever you guys are ready. 40 00:02:20,140 --> 00:02:23,490 - We've had a rough week. - Yeah, we need it. 41 00:02:23,491 --> 00:02:25,448 We have quite a bit to catch up on. 42 00:02:25,449 --> 00:02:27,276 I've been thinking about you all weekend. 43 00:02:27,277 --> 00:02:29,453 I know. I know, I know, I know. 44 00:02:32,456 --> 00:02:35,763 I could have never imagined that like, 45 00:02:35,764 --> 00:02:38,983 his family is Gwen's family. 46 00:02:38,984 --> 00:02:40,507 Yeah. 47 00:02:40,508 --> 00:02:43,163 Lisa and I are sitting at the airport. 48 00:02:45,556 --> 00:02:48,254 We had a connecting flight back from Milwaukee. 49 00:02:48,255 --> 00:02:52,171 And she said something to me and I made a face, 50 00:02:52,172 --> 00:02:54,477 because I think I'm hilarious. 51 00:02:54,478 --> 00:02:56,958 And she goes, "Oh, my God, you look like Gwen." 52 00:02:56,959 --> 00:02:58,699 And I said, "No, I don't!" 53 00:02:58,700 --> 00:03:02,311 And I opened my phone and I have this picture of Gwen's dad 54 00:03:02,312 --> 00:03:04,487 and I said, "She looks just like her dad. 55 00:03:04,488 --> 00:03:06,446 No one ever thinks she looks like me." 56 00:03:06,447 --> 00:03:10,624 She pulls out a picture and I literally am like, "I know him!" 57 00:03:10,625 --> 00:03:12,974 And she's like, "You know Gwen's dad?" 58 00:03:12,975 --> 00:03:18,632 And I'm like, "Oh my gosh, I know his parents. Well." 59 00:03:18,633 --> 00:03:20,242 Are you okay? 60 00:03:20,243 --> 00:03:22,723 I mean, it's a lot. It's super complicated. 61 00:03:22,724 --> 00:03:24,072 Mm-hmm. 62 00:03:24,073 --> 00:03:27,641 I got pregnant with Gwen when I was 19 turning 20. 63 00:03:27,642 --> 00:03:31,645 And her biological father was not involved, 64 00:03:31,646 --> 00:03:34,256 and then passed away shortly after, 65 00:03:34,257 --> 00:03:36,346 when she was turning two. 66 00:03:39,871 --> 00:03:41,524 I didn't ever connect the dots. 67 00:03:41,525 --> 00:03:43,483 That's intentional on my behalf. 68 00:03:43,484 --> 00:03:46,268 I'm careful even still with Gwen because it's not for me 69 00:03:46,269 --> 00:03:49,706 and my feelings and my experience to taint hers. 70 00:03:49,707 --> 00:03:51,578 What happened? 71 00:03:51,579 --> 00:03:54,929 It was my second year at BYU. I was 18. 72 00:03:54,930 --> 00:03:57,453 I found out I was pregnant. 73 00:03:57,454 --> 00:04:01,152 And so, he and I went to his parents' house and told them. 74 00:04:01,153 --> 00:04:02,676 I literally can't imagine. 75 00:04:02,677 --> 00:04:05,635 It wasn't a pleasant conversation with them. 76 00:04:05,636 --> 00:04:08,812 His family lives in a very small town and I would say, 77 00:04:08,813 --> 00:04:10,945 probably everybody in that town is Mormon. 78 00:04:10,946 --> 00:04:12,338 His family absolutely is. 79 00:04:12,339 --> 00:04:15,297 So, they were very shocked by this information. 80 00:04:15,298 --> 00:04:18,605 I took a fair amount of the blame that night, yeah, 81 00:04:18,606 --> 00:04:20,781 which is words I won't repeat. 82 00:04:20,782 --> 00:04:23,610 But you know what the connotation is, right? 83 00:04:23,611 --> 00:04:25,917 They were not supportive. I can just say that. 84 00:04:26,918 --> 00:04:29,093 But it was a conversation that deeply hurt me. 85 00:04:29,094 --> 00:04:30,486 Very quickly, the conversation 86 00:04:30,487 --> 00:04:34,142 shifted to that I was awful 87 00:04:34,143 --> 00:04:36,231 and damaged and disgraced and shameful. 88 00:04:36,232 --> 00:04:39,582 I think uh, what they would have preferred 89 00:04:39,583 --> 00:04:42,106 is if I'd like, said I was doing a study abroad 90 00:04:42,107 --> 00:04:44,979 and went and just quietly had my pregnancy 91 00:04:44,980 --> 00:04:46,372 and had the baby adopted. 92 00:04:46,373 --> 00:04:48,766 Did they come right out and say that? 93 00:04:50,725 --> 00:04:54,511 I left there knowing I was going to do this by myself. 94 00:04:54,946 --> 00:04:56,077 Wow. 95 00:04:56,078 --> 00:04:57,426 I was very clear on that, yes. 96 00:04:57,427 --> 00:04:59,559 Wow. How did he feel? 97 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,952 Uh, I think he had decided 98 00:05:01,953 --> 00:05:04,085 it wasn't something he was gonna be a part of. 99 00:05:04,086 --> 00:05:05,608 So, I moved home. 100 00:05:05,609 --> 00:05:07,567 How did your family handle it? 101 00:05:07,568 --> 00:05:10,353 They were not jazzed about it either. 102 00:05:12,050 --> 00:05:13,747 My dad was the recorder 103 00:05:13,748 --> 00:05:15,314 at the temple in Oakland at the time, 104 00:05:15,315 --> 00:05:17,403 which is also not a position you want to be 105 00:05:17,404 --> 00:05:21,929 welcoming home your single, pregnant child, right? 106 00:05:21,930 --> 00:05:23,409 It's a lot. 107 00:05:23,410 --> 00:05:25,019 It's embarrassing for my family. 108 00:05:25,020 --> 00:05:26,455 It was never embarrassing for me. 109 00:05:26,456 --> 00:05:28,152 I just didn't, I frankly didn't have time 110 00:05:28,153 --> 00:05:29,763 to be embarrassed about it. 111 00:05:29,764 --> 00:05:32,374 Well, I mean, like, Bronwyn, this is so much 112 00:05:32,375 --> 00:05:33,680 on a young, 19-year-old girl. 113 00:05:33,681 --> 00:05:36,988 It very much strained my relationship with my mom. 114 00:05:38,468 --> 00:05:41,035 For a long time afterwards. A long time. 115 00:05:41,036 --> 00:05:47,911 It is a total mind-[bleep] to think I, this is the best thing 116 00:05:47,912 --> 00:05:51,132 I've ever done and so many people thought it was the worst 117 00:05:51,133 --> 00:05:53,047 thing I've ever done. 118 00:05:53,048 --> 00:05:55,832 And I didn't know what was gonna happen with her dad. 119 00:05:55,833 --> 00:05:59,445 I thought there's no way that this person can know 120 00:05:59,446 --> 00:06:02,361 I have a child somewhere and someday not come for her, right? 121 00:06:02,362 --> 00:06:06,060 - Someday did not register. - Did they not know? 122 00:06:06,061 --> 00:06:10,064 Um, no my dad, my dad called 123 00:06:10,065 --> 00:06:14,024 um, Gwen's dad and her, I guess, grandparents, 124 00:06:14,025 --> 00:06:18,682 and I'm still waiting for a phone call back. 125 00:06:19,727 --> 00:06:22,077 She's gonna be 18 in a couple months, you know. 126 00:06:22,947 --> 00:06:26,385 And when Gwen was like, 18 months or two at the time, 127 00:06:26,386 --> 00:06:30,214 I found out on Facebook, I saw someone had commented 128 00:06:30,215 --> 00:06:33,523 on an obituary 129 00:06:34,350 --> 00:06:36,526 with a picture of Gwen's dad on it. 130 00:06:37,614 --> 00:06:40,486 I just, my heart breaks for all of you. 131 00:06:40,487 --> 00:06:45,055 I was with Gwen's dad's family 132 00:06:45,056 --> 00:06:46,970 after he passed 133 00:06:46,971 --> 00:06:51,671 and I know how devastating it is from their side. 134 00:06:51,672 --> 00:06:54,413 And then to hear it from Bronwyn's side. 135 00:06:54,414 --> 00:06:57,241 I mean, it's breaking my heart all over again. 136 00:06:57,242 --> 00:06:58,940 For everybody. 137 00:07:00,768 --> 00:07:02,682 I am having a hard time, Lisa. 138 00:07:02,683 --> 00:07:04,553 I'm having a hard time reconciling 139 00:07:04,554 --> 00:07:07,557 this wonderful family that you know. 140 00:07:08,515 --> 00:07:12,474 With the family that has not made time in 18 years 141 00:07:12,475 --> 00:07:13,997 to ever get to know my child, you know. 142 00:07:13,998 --> 00:07:16,653 I know that there's pain on both sides. 143 00:07:17,785 --> 00:07:19,656 Yeah, of course. 144 00:07:21,571 --> 00:07:22,919 Gwen's grandmother. 145 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,661 I told her exactly what happened in the airport 146 00:07:25,662 --> 00:07:27,750 and I said, "What are the chances?" 147 00:07:27,751 --> 00:07:30,450 And she's like, "It's time." 148 00:07:33,975 --> 00:07:36,367 I think there's regret and hurt there. 149 00:07:36,368 --> 00:07:38,587 And they were like, 150 00:07:38,588 --> 00:07:41,677 "We want to be a part of Gwen's life. 151 00:07:41,678 --> 00:07:44,942 If she wants to be a part of our life, we really want it." 152 00:07:49,381 --> 00:07:50,556 [sniffles] 153 00:07:50,557 --> 00:07:52,645 Gwen wants to know about her dad, 154 00:07:52,646 --> 00:07:54,864 and I think that that is a very natural curiosity 155 00:07:54,865 --> 00:07:57,345 and she should know everything that she wants to about him. 156 00:07:57,346 --> 00:07:59,608 I told her this came up. 157 00:07:59,609 --> 00:08:02,393 I think she was very surprised by it so we kind of eased 158 00:08:02,394 --> 00:08:04,134 into that conversation. 159 00:08:04,135 --> 00:08:05,527 So, I don't know where it goes. 160 00:08:05,528 --> 00:08:07,573 I want it to go somewhere wonderful for her. 161 00:08:07,574 --> 00:08:09,444 I really do. Um... 162 00:08:09,445 --> 00:08:10,924 Same. 163 00:08:10,925 --> 00:08:13,535 But it is going to physically pain me 164 00:08:13,536 --> 00:08:15,189 to watch her be close with them. 165 00:08:15,190 --> 00:08:17,147 It will. It will. 166 00:08:17,148 --> 00:08:19,586 - Mm-hmm. - Yeah. 167 00:08:38,692 --> 00:08:39,692 Heather! 168 00:08:39,693 --> 00:08:41,955 What's up? One piece crew! 169 00:08:41,956 --> 00:08:44,132 [Whitney laughs] 170 00:08:44,785 --> 00:08:46,220 What kind of dance move was that? 171 00:08:46,221 --> 00:08:48,136 Get your stuff, let's go. 172 00:08:51,792 --> 00:08:54,751 - Okay, here we go. - You got it. You got it. 173 00:08:55,535 --> 00:08:57,666 - I'll take up the rear. - Like a little duckling. 174 00:08:57,667 --> 00:09:00,104 - Oh, my god. - Good job, Brit! 175 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:13,074 ♪ Ah, ah, ah 176 00:09:16,730 --> 00:09:18,905 Woo! 177 00:09:18,906 --> 00:09:20,297 Hey. 178 00:09:20,298 --> 00:09:21,647 Look at that view. That's beautiful. 179 00:09:21,648 --> 00:09:23,692 Cute like, snaps. 180 00:09:23,693 --> 00:09:26,609 Yay, the cousins. The cousins and me. 181 00:09:27,697 --> 00:09:29,698 - Speaking of videos. - Yeah, oh my gosh. 182 00:09:29,699 --> 00:09:31,482 What was that video? Does, has she seen it? 183 00:09:31,483 --> 00:09:33,093 No. 184 00:09:33,094 --> 00:09:35,356 She sent me a video the night she got back from Milwaukee. 185 00:09:35,357 --> 00:09:37,924 - You won't believe it. - Britani did? 186 00:09:37,925 --> 00:09:40,013 Yeah. Press play. 187 00:09:40,014 --> 00:09:44,017 I just walked in from Milwaukee and this is sitting on my desk. 188 00:09:44,018 --> 00:09:48,021 There's four dozen roses from my favorite florist 189 00:09:48,022 --> 00:09:51,459 and this beautiful card from Jared. 190 00:09:51,460 --> 00:09:53,722 He wants to meet up with me, obviously. 191 00:09:53,723 --> 00:09:56,072 He's sending me flowers. He's writing me love notes. 192 00:09:56,073 --> 00:09:57,378 No. 193 00:09:57,379 --> 00:09:59,336 So, are you considering meeting up with him? 194 00:09:59,337 --> 00:10:00,729 Yeah, I'm thinking about it. 195 00:10:00,730 --> 00:10:02,818 I do feel like he deserves closure. 196 00:10:02,819 --> 00:10:05,168 And the way, the snarky texts that I sent, 197 00:10:05,169 --> 00:10:08,956 I feel like I owe it to him to hear him out. 198 00:10:10,392 --> 00:10:12,436 I know that you want love. 199 00:10:12,437 --> 00:10:14,874 But it's getting a little complicated. 200 00:10:14,875 --> 00:10:17,877 'Cause one minute we're all pro-Jared. 201 00:10:17,878 --> 00:10:20,053 Not everyone was pro-Jared, I'll tell you that. 202 00:10:20,054 --> 00:10:23,883 Lisa was so anti-Jared. It really affected what I did. 203 00:10:23,884 --> 00:10:25,580 And maybe it was for the best. 204 00:10:25,581 --> 00:10:27,669 But then I just think she's way too invested 205 00:10:27,670 --> 00:10:29,018 in my personal life. 206 00:10:29,019 --> 00:10:31,064 I felt a little bit bothered by that, you know. 207 00:10:31,065 --> 00:10:34,067 I'm really upset and hurt by Lisa right now. 208 00:10:34,068 --> 00:10:35,546 Why? 209 00:10:35,547 --> 00:10:37,985 She gave me the biggest F-U ever. 210 00:10:39,029 --> 00:10:43,033 After we got home from our trip, Charles from the Kinn called me. 211 00:10:47,864 --> 00:10:50,431 Does it say Prism on the box? 212 00:10:50,432 --> 00:10:52,563 - Yes. - What room was it in? 213 00:10:52,564 --> 00:10:53,739 406. 214 00:10:53,740 --> 00:10:55,610 It was Lisa Barlow's. 215 00:10:55,611 --> 00:10:58,047 - No. - Mm-hmm. 216 00:10:58,048 --> 00:11:00,441 Here's the thing. You know, I was going hard for Meredith 217 00:11:00,442 --> 00:11:02,835 that night, 'cause why are you talking about my business? 218 00:11:02,836 --> 00:11:04,967 And her in the past. 219 00:11:04,968 --> 00:11:06,752 What? 220 00:11:06,753 --> 00:11:08,928 Lisa's who told Meredith about it. 221 00:11:08,929 --> 00:11:10,886 Lisa told Meredith about it? 222 00:11:10,887 --> 00:11:12,932 Lisa told Meredith. Meredith told me. I told you. 223 00:11:12,933 --> 00:11:16,065 But like, it's more than the business stuff. 224 00:11:16,066 --> 00:11:18,633 It feels like you're taking it really personally. 225 00:11:18,634 --> 00:11:20,374 Because I feel like it is personal. 226 00:11:20,375 --> 00:11:22,506 This is my business, my brand, 227 00:11:22,507 --> 00:11:24,552 and it's not just something that popped up. 228 00:11:24,553 --> 00:11:26,554 I feel like this was planted. 229 00:11:26,555 --> 00:11:28,078 - By who? - By Lisa? 230 00:11:29,340 --> 00:11:31,733 After I got that call from Charles at the Kinn, 231 00:11:31,734 --> 00:11:34,301 I started thinking, Lisa is vindictive. 232 00:11:34,302 --> 00:11:37,086 She must still be mad at me over the podcast. 233 00:11:37,087 --> 00:11:38,871 Lisa has always been the villain. 234 00:11:38,872 --> 00:11:42,135 Because why else would she toss the necklace I gifted her 235 00:11:42,136 --> 00:11:43,223 into the trash? 236 00:11:43,224 --> 00:11:45,051 If Lisa's the one who brought it up. 237 00:11:45,052 --> 00:11:46,966 That is really hurtful, Whitney. 238 00:11:46,967 --> 00:11:49,708 And now, hearing that Lisa started this rumor 239 00:11:49,709 --> 00:11:52,493 and not Meredith, I think I have this wrong. 240 00:11:52,494 --> 00:11:54,669 You need to get to the bottom of that. 241 00:11:54,670 --> 00:11:56,803 I need to get to the bottom of all of it. 242 00:12:12,122 --> 00:12:15,386 Robert! Robert! 243 00:12:19,434 --> 00:12:21,305 Robert. 244 00:12:28,095 --> 00:12:30,226 - You good, babe? - Mm-hmm. 245 00:12:30,227 --> 00:12:32,142 Did you eat? 246 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,973 I'm getting ready to go to a dance class. 247 00:12:41,238 --> 00:12:43,284 For what? 248 00:12:46,853 --> 00:12:49,856 It's, it's used for good purposes, right? 249 00:12:50,813 --> 00:12:53,119 Like, you know like your body's like a plant. 250 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,557 And if you don't water a plant, if you don't feed a plant, 251 00:12:56,558 --> 00:12:58,299 what happens to it? 252 00:13:00,170 --> 00:13:01,955 It dies. 253 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:03,999 We don't want that. 254 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:08,047 I do support Robert but I also want him to get a job. 255 00:13:08,048 --> 00:13:10,310 I want him to be responsible. I want him to be disciplined. 256 00:13:10,311 --> 00:13:14,444 But right now he's just not in a good space to be working 257 00:13:14,445 --> 00:13:17,012 because I just feel like he won't be focused, 258 00:13:17,013 --> 00:13:20,015 the attention span will be bad, and he won't perform. 259 00:13:20,016 --> 00:13:24,325 It has a lot to do with his lifestyle. 260 00:13:30,635 --> 00:13:32,507 Love you too, babe. 261 00:13:34,204 --> 00:13:36,337 Bless him, Lord. 262 00:13:39,383 --> 00:13:41,037 [phone rings] 263 00:13:42,865 --> 00:13:45,346 Your charity awaits, my lady. 264 00:13:46,956 --> 00:13:48,915 Okay, see you in a minute. 265 00:13:50,046 --> 00:13:52,091 - Hi, how are you? - Good. 266 00:13:52,092 --> 00:13:54,267 My pants are so tight I gotta find a way to maneuver. 267 00:13:54,268 --> 00:13:56,704 - It smells like onions in here. - Does it? Oh, God. 268 00:13:56,705 --> 00:13:58,097 - You hate onions. - Did you have onions? 269 00:13:58,098 --> 00:14:00,230 No, I didn't have onions. 270 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,150 Welcome, welcome to class, y'all. 271 00:14:08,151 --> 00:14:09,717 We're gonna start with a bounce 272 00:14:09,718 --> 00:14:11,893 because we are doing some hip hop. 273 00:14:11,894 --> 00:14:13,373 Yes, step in here, step in there. 274 00:14:13,374 --> 00:14:15,854 - Hi! So good to see you. - So good to see you. 275 00:14:15,855 --> 00:14:17,377 This is gonna be so fun. 276 00:14:17,378 --> 00:14:19,683 Well, this really shows Mary and I's level of expertise 277 00:14:19,684 --> 00:14:21,337 in the dance department. 278 00:14:21,338 --> 00:14:24,253 We are in a dance class with Georgia Gay, who is a teenager. 279 00:14:24,254 --> 00:14:26,516 - You're gonna have to help me. - Okay, I'll help you too. 280 00:14:26,517 --> 00:14:28,083 Like I'm your mom. 281 00:14:28,084 --> 00:14:29,998 I'd like to think I'm a younger version of Jennifer Grey. 282 00:14:29,999 --> 00:14:32,871 But I don't even think these kids are old enough 283 00:14:32,872 --> 00:14:34,394 to watch Dirty Dancing. 284 00:14:34,395 --> 00:14:38,878 Go in, go out. Single, single, double, double. 285 00:14:58,593 --> 00:15:00,724 - Hi. - Hi, what's the name? 286 00:15:00,725 --> 00:15:04,337 Heather. It should be for two for the salt caves. 287 00:15:04,338 --> 00:15:06,339 - Yeah. - Perfect, thank you. 288 00:15:06,340 --> 00:15:09,951 Hey, how are you? Good to see you. 289 00:15:09,952 --> 00:15:11,779 Are you ready for a salt cave? 290 00:15:11,780 --> 00:15:13,520 Yeah, I probably need it. 291 00:15:13,521 --> 00:15:15,043 I can take you guys back. 292 00:15:15,044 --> 00:15:17,132 Will you tell us about it, too? Like, this is so cool. 293 00:15:17,133 --> 00:15:18,612 I didn't even know we had these here. 294 00:15:18,613 --> 00:15:22,443 So, the room is made out of 16 tons of Himalayan salt. 295 00:15:23,574 --> 00:15:25,706 What do you mean, like this brick is salt? 296 00:15:25,707 --> 00:15:27,142 Yep, all the brick. It's all salt. 297 00:15:27,143 --> 00:15:28,883 Who even thinks this up? 298 00:15:28,884 --> 00:15:30,537 When you're surrounded by this much salt 299 00:15:30,538 --> 00:15:33,235 there's a negative ion healing effect that happens in your body 300 00:15:33,236 --> 00:15:35,672 so it's super grounding and relaxing 301 00:15:35,673 --> 00:15:37,196 just to be sitting in this room. 302 00:15:37,197 --> 00:15:40,155 Uh, may I get some tea? Do you want some? 303 00:15:40,156 --> 00:15:42,070 - I'll go put some hot water. - Yeah, thank you. 304 00:15:42,071 --> 00:15:44,986 I would love a tea, too. I'm scared to get in it. 305 00:15:44,987 --> 00:15:46,683 Oh, it's chilly. It feels good. 306 00:15:46,684 --> 00:15:48,294 - It's cold? - Yeah, it's cold. 307 00:15:48,295 --> 00:15:50,252 Oh my gosh, this is much different 308 00:15:50,253 --> 00:15:53,952 than the Costco Himalayan sea salt that I buy in bulk. 309 00:15:53,953 --> 00:15:55,301 Yeah. This feels so good. 310 00:15:55,302 --> 00:15:56,998 - Here's the tea for you ladies. - Thank you. 311 00:15:56,999 --> 00:15:59,000 Be careful not to spill it on the salt 312 00:15:59,001 --> 00:16:00,915 'cause it will dissolve it. 313 00:16:00,916 --> 00:16:02,917 - Oh my gosh. - Thank you. 314 00:16:02,918 --> 00:16:05,789 Is it burning hot? Burning? Burning? 315 00:16:05,790 --> 00:16:08,183 Burning hot. Oh my gosh, let it chill. Let it chill. 316 00:16:08,184 --> 00:16:10,446 I have no more tastebuds on my tongue. 317 00:16:10,447 --> 00:16:11,970 [both laugh] 318 00:16:11,971 --> 00:16:15,103 Jam it out. Jam it out. Jam it out. 319 00:16:15,104 --> 00:16:17,323 Thank you guys again for coming through. 320 00:16:17,324 --> 00:16:18,889 [all cheer] 321 00:16:18,890 --> 00:16:23,329 This was so fun. Mary. Gorgeous outfit. 322 00:16:23,330 --> 00:16:24,460 Woo! 323 00:16:24,461 --> 00:16:26,114 Do you wanna cool off for a minute? 324 00:16:26,115 --> 00:16:27,811 I feel like we haven't talked since the trip. 325 00:16:27,812 --> 00:16:29,465 I don't know if you had fun. I had fun. 326 00:16:29,466 --> 00:16:31,032 Oh, the trip, I loved the trip. 327 00:16:31,033 --> 00:16:34,122 But I left there just really emotional. 328 00:16:34,123 --> 00:16:36,298 Well, you did have a little blowout. 329 00:16:36,299 --> 00:16:38,648 Mary, my exchange with Lisa was so bad. 330 00:16:38,649 --> 00:16:41,956 Saying that like oh, I say I've got to go to 331 00:16:41,957 --> 00:16:43,305 take care of my daughter. 332 00:16:43,306 --> 00:16:45,220 That's when the conversation starts at lunch 333 00:16:45,221 --> 00:16:46,874 and it's now dinnertime. 334 00:16:46,875 --> 00:16:48,354 I mean, I'm a committed mother. 335 00:16:48,355 --> 00:16:50,486 I'm home for my daughter, I'm there for my daughter 336 00:16:50,487 --> 00:16:52,314 because my mom wasn't there for me. 337 00:16:52,315 --> 00:16:55,317 And for her to bring that up, that was like, that was low. 338 00:16:55,318 --> 00:16:58,320 Lisa's had a problem with every single one of her friends. 339 00:16:58,321 --> 00:17:01,802 She had a problem with Jen, Heather, Meredith, 340 00:17:01,803 --> 00:17:05,458 Whitney, Angie H, Monica, Mary, 341 00:17:05,459 --> 00:17:07,025 and now me. 342 00:17:07,026 --> 00:17:09,157 There's a reason no one can keep Lisa happy. 343 00:17:09,158 --> 00:17:10,811 She's impossible. 344 00:17:10,812 --> 00:17:13,683 Mary, we were like sisters. We talked multiple times a day. 345 00:17:13,684 --> 00:17:16,686 And now I don't hear from her anymore and Heather's telling me 346 00:17:16,687 --> 00:17:18,645 it's because of me. 347 00:17:18,646 --> 00:17:19,863 What? 348 00:17:19,864 --> 00:17:22,257 Heather's blaming me, that I pulled away 349 00:17:22,258 --> 00:17:23,432 or I'm not calling Lisa as much. 350 00:17:23,433 --> 00:17:26,219 She's totally siding with Lisa. 351 00:17:28,395 --> 00:17:29,873 How do you feel after the trip? 352 00:17:29,874 --> 00:17:31,571 I haven't recovered yet, you know? 353 00:17:31,572 --> 00:17:34,052 The Harley Museum was so weird, you know. 354 00:17:34,053 --> 00:17:37,533 I feel like Angie is changing the terms of your friendship. 355 00:17:37,534 --> 00:17:41,059 Like, I feel like she's challenging you unnecessarily. 356 00:17:41,060 --> 00:17:42,843 You don't like that I'm not just doing 357 00:17:42,844 --> 00:17:44,192 whatever you want me to do. 358 00:17:44,193 --> 00:17:46,107 I don't give a [bleep] what you do! 359 00:17:46,108 --> 00:17:47,587 Yes, you do! 360 00:17:47,588 --> 00:17:49,806 Don't do that to me, you - ing bitch! Don't do that! 361 00:17:49,807 --> 00:17:51,547 I'm---ing pissed at you. 362 00:17:51,548 --> 00:17:54,159 - Thank you, I feel that too. - I feel like it's mean. 363 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,335 I don't like the way she's treating you. 364 00:17:56,336 --> 00:17:59,164 It feels, it feels sh---- I'll tell you that much. 365 00:17:59,165 --> 00:18:00,730 I think it feels sh---y too. 366 00:18:00,731 --> 00:18:02,689 Like, she was upset, I mean, after Harley-Davidson. 367 00:18:02,690 --> 00:18:05,735 We talked the next morning and she like, threw out some jabs. 368 00:18:05,736 --> 00:18:07,389 Like what? 369 00:18:07,390 --> 00:18:09,739 She was being mean. She said my daughter needs me. 370 00:18:09,740 --> 00:18:12,612 Like, she's just not in the room playing video games. 371 00:18:12,613 --> 00:18:15,354 I think the biggest thing that hit me last night 372 00:18:15,355 --> 00:18:16,877 was Lisa saying that I'm not a good friend. 373 00:18:16,878 --> 00:18:19,445 And then for her to bring up that I hang up with her 374 00:18:19,446 --> 00:18:22,230 because I use, oh I've got to go, Elektra needs me. 375 00:18:22,231 --> 00:18:25,059 My daughter does need me. She needs a present mother. 376 00:18:25,060 --> 00:18:28,018 Like, I don't let her sit and---ing game 377 00:18:28,019 --> 00:18:30,238 'til two in the morning. 378 00:18:30,239 --> 00:18:32,762 So, I can like leave the computer 379 00:18:32,763 --> 00:18:34,590 as a----ing babysitter. 380 00:18:34,591 --> 00:18:38,594 Oh. Oh, wow. She's talking about my parenting? 381 00:18:38,595 --> 00:18:41,293 I'm like a great mom. What is she talking about? 382 00:18:41,294 --> 00:18:42,424 It felt like a dig. 383 00:18:42,425 --> 00:18:44,122 Yeah, that sounds like a big dig. 384 00:18:44,123 --> 00:18:45,427 It felt like Elektra requires more than Henry 385 00:18:45,428 --> 00:18:47,081 and you don't understand that. 386 00:18:47,082 --> 00:18:49,650 And she can't take time away from Elektra to be your friend. 387 00:18:51,217 --> 00:18:52,826 You know what? If I'm a sh-- mom, 388 00:18:52,827 --> 00:18:55,872 my kids are doing pretty good for having this sh---y mother. 389 00:18:55,873 --> 00:18:59,006 I think I could have gone my whole life and never told Lisa 390 00:18:59,007 --> 00:19:00,312 what Angie said. 391 00:19:00,313 --> 00:19:02,488 But I thought what Angie said was mean 392 00:19:02,489 --> 00:19:05,839 and was not indicative of the way that I've known Angie 393 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:07,275 to feel about Lisa. 394 00:19:07,276 --> 00:19:09,190 And it just felt like something Lisa should know. 395 00:19:09,191 --> 00:19:12,150 She can take the mother of the year award. 396 00:19:12,151 --> 00:19:13,934 That's a----ing low blow. 397 00:19:13,935 --> 00:19:17,504 Like, I am actually really - ing mad right now. 398 00:19:19,506 --> 00:19:22,334 I am constantly criticized 399 00:19:22,335 --> 00:19:24,727 by people that don't even know me 400 00:19:24,728 --> 00:19:26,816 about how I am as a mother 401 00:19:26,817 --> 00:19:28,514 because I'm a public figure. 402 00:19:28,515 --> 00:19:32,039 So, to have someone that you consider to be a close friend 403 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,216 judge you for how you are as mom, 404 00:19:35,217 --> 00:19:36,652 is like the worst cut. 405 00:19:36,653 --> 00:19:39,699 I do everything for my kids, with my kids. 406 00:19:39,700 --> 00:19:43,051 For her to say that is so----ing rude. 407 00:19:43,573 --> 00:19:46,184 I think you need to get to the root of it with Angie. 408 00:19:46,185 --> 00:19:48,142 Like, what is her issue with you? 409 00:19:48,143 --> 00:19:49,665 It's not just personality critiques 410 00:19:49,666 --> 00:19:51,276 or friendship critiques. 411 00:19:51,277 --> 00:19:53,930 Like, she's coming after you and I don't know why. 412 00:19:53,931 --> 00:19:57,196 And neither do I. Neither do I. 413 00:20:10,034 --> 00:20:11,644 Are you ready to go to soccer? 414 00:20:11,645 --> 00:20:13,167 Always. 415 00:20:13,168 --> 00:20:14,603 Has anyone noticed that I gained 416 00:20:14,604 --> 00:20:16,605 about seven new piercings in my earlobe? 417 00:20:16,606 --> 00:20:18,955 Babe what are you doing with your ears? 418 00:20:18,956 --> 00:20:20,609 I want my second piercing. 419 00:20:20,610 --> 00:20:22,481 Can you take me to get my second piercing? 420 00:20:22,482 --> 00:20:25,135 Let's set a goal and if you meet the goal 421 00:20:25,136 --> 00:20:26,702 you can get a second piercing. 422 00:20:26,703 --> 00:20:29,618 You said I could get a second piercing already. Remember? 423 00:20:29,619 --> 00:20:31,664 Yes. I get that she's 14 and she's growing up. 424 00:20:31,665 --> 00:20:34,275 - 'K, have fun at soccer, babe. - Love you. 425 00:20:34,276 --> 00:20:35,624 All of her friends have piercings, 426 00:20:35,625 --> 00:20:39,019 but it's like the wholesomeness and the virtue 427 00:20:39,020 --> 00:20:40,281 of being a little kid. 428 00:20:40,282 --> 00:20:41,630 I think I'm just trying to like, 429 00:20:41,631 --> 00:20:43,850 hold on to that as long as I can. 430 00:20:43,851 --> 00:20:47,070 I still can't believe that we moved into a home 431 00:20:47,071 --> 00:20:50,510 that has a view of a temple from most of the windows. 432 00:20:51,250 --> 00:20:53,338 Hey, but it raises your property value. 433 00:20:53,339 --> 00:20:55,209 That's what they say. 434 00:20:55,210 --> 00:20:56,819 Oh, it's Adam. 435 00:20:56,820 --> 00:20:58,473 Hello? 436 00:20:58,474 --> 00:21:01,476 - Hey. - Hey, how's it going? 437 00:21:01,477 --> 00:21:04,392 Oh, my God. So, I was calling you 438 00:21:04,393 --> 00:21:06,742 because I didn't realize 439 00:21:06,743 --> 00:21:09,658 that it was somebody that you're close to 440 00:21:09,659 --> 00:21:13,096 who was putting this information out. 441 00:21:13,097 --> 00:21:17,013 Adam is a casual friend of mine who is also a podcaster. 442 00:21:17,014 --> 00:21:20,669 And he is friends with the person that runs the account 443 00:21:20,670 --> 00:21:23,933 that posted that Prism's jewelry comes from Alibaba. 444 00:21:23,934 --> 00:21:26,501 So, I asked Adam to reach out to the account 445 00:21:26,502 --> 00:21:29,417 to see if he could find out who fed this story. 446 00:21:29,418 --> 00:21:33,334 Because I have my suspicions but I need the proof. 447 00:21:33,335 --> 00:21:35,118 Just tell me. What was your conversation? 448 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,904 Because this is my business. My brand, my reputation. 449 00:21:37,905 --> 00:21:40,863 I was trying to do my best to figure out who this person was. 450 00:21:40,864 --> 00:21:43,866 And they said it's definitely somebody in your group. 451 00:21:43,867 --> 00:21:47,653 And I said, "Can you tell me who it is?" 452 00:21:47,654 --> 00:21:51,178 They said, "Well I can't tell you who it is 453 00:21:51,179 --> 00:21:52,919 but you can ask me questions." 454 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,270 And I said, "Does this person have a jewelry brand?" 455 00:21:56,271 --> 00:21:57,924 They said, "No." 456 00:21:57,925 --> 00:22:00,970 I said, "Does this person have a beauty brand?" 457 00:22:00,971 --> 00:22:02,885 They said, "No." 458 00:22:02,886 --> 00:22:06,541 And then I said, "Does this person have a liquor brand?" 459 00:22:06,542 --> 00:22:08,500 And they said, "Yes." 460 00:22:08,501 --> 00:22:10,938 And I was, like, oh, my God. 461 00:22:13,593 --> 00:22:16,508 No one in my friend group has a liquor brand 462 00:22:16,509 --> 00:22:18,118 besides Lisa Barlow. 463 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:19,249 Right. 464 00:22:19,250 --> 00:22:21,077 Like catching Lisa in this, 465 00:22:21,078 --> 00:22:24,385 especially after the outrage at Reality Von Tease. 466 00:22:24,386 --> 00:22:26,300 Let me just process this for a minute 467 00:22:26,301 --> 00:22:27,693 and then I'll reach back out to you. 468 00:22:27,694 --> 00:22:30,435 - Talk to you soon. - Okay, take care. Bye. 469 00:22:30,436 --> 00:22:32,959 On one hand, it's like, it's validating, 470 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,918 but at the same time, I really didn't want it to be true 471 00:22:35,919 --> 00:22:39,748 because it means I have a friendship 472 00:22:39,749 --> 00:22:43,100 that potentially was never real in the first place. 473 00:22:45,189 --> 00:22:47,104 Holy sh--, babe. 474 00:22:58,986 --> 00:23:00,421 Well, hey. 475 00:23:00,422 --> 00:23:02,510 - Your guy's already here. - Is he here already? 476 00:23:02,511 --> 00:23:05,645 Right there for you. 477 00:23:08,822 --> 00:23:10,562 - Hi, how are you? - Can I have a hug? 478 00:23:10,563 --> 00:23:13,000 Yeah, yeah, we can hug. 479 00:23:17,178 --> 00:23:18,745 [sighs] 480 00:23:21,095 --> 00:23:22,965 How are you? 481 00:23:22,966 --> 00:23:25,403 [sighs] Great. 482 00:23:25,404 --> 00:23:26,839 How are you? 483 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,276 - I'm nervous. - Why are you nervous? 484 00:23:29,277 --> 00:23:30,843 I make you nervous? 485 00:23:30,844 --> 00:23:32,888 No, I'm just, I'm just nervous. 486 00:23:32,889 --> 00:23:34,977 I know that when I get in front of Jared, 487 00:23:34,978 --> 00:23:37,632 he's very convincing. 488 00:23:37,633 --> 00:23:39,460 I would say even manipulative. 489 00:23:39,461 --> 00:23:41,462 And I have a really hard time standing my ground 490 00:23:41,463 --> 00:23:42,811 and staying broken up. 491 00:23:42,812 --> 00:23:44,334 It's good to see you, though. 492 00:23:44,335 --> 00:23:46,162 It's been my pattern over and over. 493 00:23:46,163 --> 00:23:48,382 Is it okay if take your food order right now? 494 00:23:48,383 --> 00:23:50,993 Let's just do a charcuterie board. 495 00:23:50,994 --> 00:23:53,300 Yeah, let's kind of go from there. Appreciate that. 496 00:23:53,301 --> 00:23:56,477 But he's been asking and asking to have some closure, 497 00:23:56,478 --> 00:23:58,437 and I feel like I owe him that. 498 00:23:58,872 --> 00:24:00,960 - You look beautiful. - Thank you. 499 00:24:00,961 --> 00:24:03,484 - I've missed you. - I've missed you too. 500 00:24:03,485 --> 00:24:05,660 Yeah. It's a tough transition, to be honest. 501 00:24:05,661 --> 00:24:07,053 I didn't see it coming. 502 00:24:07,054 --> 00:24:09,925 What makes this different than every other breakup? 503 00:24:09,926 --> 00:24:12,798 You went to Milwaukee, and when you left, 504 00:24:12,799 --> 00:24:15,017 I thought it was all sunshine and roses. 505 00:24:15,018 --> 00:24:19,369 And right before the game, you sent me a little video 506 00:24:19,370 --> 00:24:20,632 and you said, hey. 507 00:24:20,633 --> 00:24:22,503 I'll call you when the game's over, babe. 508 00:24:22,504 --> 00:24:24,113 Yes. 509 00:24:24,114 --> 00:24:28,205 The next day rolls around. Ghosted me. 510 00:24:29,424 --> 00:24:32,382 And then, that second night, 511 00:24:32,383 --> 00:24:34,863 I get a FaceTime call on your phone 512 00:24:34,864 --> 00:24:36,604 and I'm like, "Oh, finally. 513 00:24:36,605 --> 00:24:38,606 Oh, good, I have a chance to resolve it." 514 00:24:38,607 --> 00:24:40,869 And it's Lisa Barlow. 515 00:24:40,870 --> 00:24:43,569 And she's been reading my text messages. 516 00:24:44,352 --> 00:24:45,570 What the hell, Brit? 517 00:24:45,571 --> 00:24:47,920 On the way home from the drag bar, 518 00:24:47,921 --> 00:24:50,705 Lisa grabs my phone and starts messaging Jared 519 00:24:50,706 --> 00:24:52,752 really mean things. 520 00:24:53,100 --> 00:24:56,102 And she FaceTimed them and then started singing to him 521 00:24:56,103 --> 00:24:59,540 some kind of song about besties and yada yada, 522 00:24:59,541 --> 00:25:01,020 because Jared calls me his best friend 523 00:25:01,021 --> 00:25:02,500 and she thought that was ridiculous. 524 00:25:02,501 --> 00:25:04,197 This is what I have a real problem with. 525 00:25:04,198 --> 00:25:07,243 Private conversations between people that love each other 526 00:25:07,244 --> 00:25:08,767 are private. 527 00:25:08,768 --> 00:25:12,074 In the moment I felt appreciative of Lisa 528 00:25:12,075 --> 00:25:14,076 because I feel like she's got good intentions 529 00:25:14,077 --> 00:25:16,165 and I like that she's looking out for me, 530 00:25:16,166 --> 00:25:20,170 but in hindsight, it was terrible to let Lisa do that. 531 00:25:20,954 --> 00:25:22,650 Our life, it should be private. 532 00:25:22,651 --> 00:25:24,739 It's okay to have a public side, a public persona. 533 00:25:24,740 --> 00:25:25,958 Well, see, you wanted it private, 534 00:25:25,959 --> 00:25:27,263 but I don't necessarily want it private. 535 00:25:27,264 --> 00:25:28,787 I just want to be... 536 00:25:28,788 --> 00:25:30,745 Okay, well then we had a difference. 537 00:25:30,746 --> 00:25:32,007 ...how we are to everybody. 538 00:25:32,008 --> 00:25:33,835 When we're out, I hold your hand. 539 00:25:33,836 --> 00:25:35,750 When we're together, I've kissed you in public. 540 00:25:35,751 --> 00:25:37,273 Why is that even an issue though? 541 00:25:37,274 --> 00:25:39,972 Do you take any accountability for me not feeling safe? 542 00:25:39,973 --> 00:25:41,539 I take lots of accountability. I... feeling safe? 543 00:25:41,540 --> 00:25:42,975 Yeah. 544 00:25:42,976 --> 00:25:45,020 He doesn't ever post about me on social media. 545 00:25:45,021 --> 00:25:47,283 He won't get off dating apps. 546 00:25:47,284 --> 00:25:50,765 And when we walk by cute girls, he'll drop my hand. 547 00:25:50,766 --> 00:25:53,159 The most important part of a relationship 548 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,988 is the part that makes you feel like you're in a relationship, 549 00:25:55,989 --> 00:25:59,295 and that part is not there. 550 00:25:59,296 --> 00:26:01,907 Jared, you are my best friend, 551 00:26:01,908 --> 00:26:05,563 but are you willing 552 00:26:05,564 --> 00:26:07,913 to make me feel safe 553 00:26:07,914 --> 00:26:10,306 and do the things that are uncomfortable for you 554 00:26:10,307 --> 00:26:11,831 to make me feel safe? 555 00:26:14,355 --> 00:26:17,924 And I don't have to be so confused all the time. 556 00:26:18,664 --> 00:26:22,841 I've shown up every day for you, Britani, and that's not enough. 557 00:26:22,842 --> 00:26:24,146 That's not answering the question. 558 00:26:24,147 --> 00:26:25,800 I've given you everything I can. I'm here. 559 00:26:25,801 --> 00:26:27,628 Well, that's the answer to my question. 560 00:26:27,629 --> 00:26:29,151 You've given me everything you can. 561 00:26:29,152 --> 00:26:30,631 I have. Okay, and it's not enough, Britani. 562 00:26:30,632 --> 00:26:32,633 - So, that's a no. - Okay. 563 00:26:32,634 --> 00:26:34,635 It's a no. 564 00:26:34,636 --> 00:26:37,030 I'm a really good guy, Britani. It's okay. 565 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,034 I don't wanna lose the relationship. 566 00:26:42,992 --> 00:26:45,299 But you and I just don't understand each other. 567 00:26:46,692 --> 00:26:48,475 So, let's just put a pin in it. 568 00:26:48,476 --> 00:26:50,173 Okay. 569 00:27:07,843 --> 00:27:09,844 - Hello. - Hi. 570 00:27:09,845 --> 00:27:11,933 I haven't seen you for a few days. 571 00:27:11,934 --> 00:27:13,979 - I know. - I got cookies. 572 00:27:13,980 --> 00:27:15,894 So, I got myself the Lucky Charms one. 573 00:27:15,895 --> 00:27:17,635 - Do you want chocolate? - Um, no. 574 00:27:17,636 --> 00:27:19,811 You want just chocolate chip? I'm glad you're back. 575 00:27:19,812 --> 00:27:21,639 Gwen's been with my mom and dad in San Francisco 576 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,423 for a couple days. 577 00:27:23,424 --> 00:27:26,469 As soon as I came back from Milwaukee, Gwen and I talked. 578 00:27:26,470 --> 00:27:28,950 This isn't something I could kind of keep to myself. 579 00:27:28,951 --> 00:27:30,473 I wanted to tell her right away. 580 00:27:30,474 --> 00:27:34,390 And I wanted her to have some time not with me 581 00:27:34,391 --> 00:27:37,916 so that she could have some space to think about it. 582 00:27:37,917 --> 00:27:39,614 Gosh, Freddy's so heavy now. 583 00:27:40,659 --> 00:27:42,137 Let's go, come on. 584 00:27:42,138 --> 00:27:44,618 Also, it was really important for me to have some space 585 00:27:44,619 --> 00:27:47,795 to center back on the mom 586 00:27:47,796 --> 00:27:50,843 that I want to be to Gwen in this scenario. 587 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,978 Okay, come up here, girls. 588 00:27:56,979 --> 00:27:58,763 Come here. Come on, sweet girl. 589 00:27:58,764 --> 00:28:00,634 Um, I don't even know what to say, Gwen. 590 00:28:00,635 --> 00:28:02,201 It was so bizarre in the airport 591 00:28:02,202 --> 00:28:04,116 sitting there chatting with Lisa. 592 00:28:04,117 --> 00:28:05,900 When I told Todd, he was like, 593 00:28:05,901 --> 00:28:07,554 I've never even seen a picture of Gwen's dad. 594 00:28:07,555 --> 00:28:10,078 I can't believe you just whipped a picture out and showed Lisa. 595 00:28:10,079 --> 00:28:11,210 And I wasn't thinking, obviously. 596 00:28:11,211 --> 00:28:12,385 I didn't know they knew each other. 597 00:28:12,386 --> 00:28:14,126 And then that spiraled out of control. 598 00:28:14,127 --> 00:28:15,475 She's good friends with them. 599 00:28:15,476 --> 00:28:17,042 Yeah, that was the last thing I expected 600 00:28:17,043 --> 00:28:18,826 to hear you say when you came back from your trip. 601 00:28:18,827 --> 00:28:20,698 Yeah. I didn't even know how to tell you. 602 00:28:20,699 --> 00:28:22,961 And then I talked to Lisa 603 00:28:22,962 --> 00:28:24,832 and I know that they were excited 604 00:28:24,833 --> 00:28:26,399 in that conversation to meet you. 605 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,532 I mean, when they said that they were excited to see me 606 00:28:29,533 --> 00:28:31,491 and they wanted to meet me, and like, this was like, 607 00:28:31,492 --> 00:28:35,669 meant to be, like whatever, I was like, oh wow, like, 608 00:28:35,670 --> 00:28:38,019 maybe I, maybe like, I was right. 609 00:28:38,020 --> 00:28:39,760 Like, they are going to, they are excited, 610 00:28:39,761 --> 00:28:41,196 they do wanna meet me. 611 00:28:41,197 --> 00:28:43,068 Like, you know what I mean? 612 00:28:43,069 --> 00:28:45,548 But it doesn't really feel like that now, you know. 613 00:28:45,549 --> 00:28:50,553 I know since they expressed interest in getting to know you, 614 00:28:50,554 --> 00:28:52,642 the communication between us 615 00:28:52,643 --> 00:28:54,209 has been a little rough with them. 616 00:28:54,210 --> 00:28:56,777 Yeah, I mean, I felt like it was a little cold and like, 617 00:28:56,778 --> 00:28:59,867 I didn't like how they phrased certain things about like, 618 00:28:59,868 --> 00:29:01,521 if I was ready or not. 619 00:29:01,522 --> 00:29:03,697 When I feel like I've always been ready. 620 00:29:03,698 --> 00:29:06,831 Like, that, that wasn't me that wasn't ever ready, you know. 621 00:29:06,832 --> 00:29:08,746 It was more on their side that wasn't ready. 622 00:29:08,747 --> 00:29:11,792 They didn't really seem like, excited, or like, ready 623 00:29:11,793 --> 00:29:13,359 to take the opportunity. 624 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,404 It was kinda like, well I mean, I guess we will meet you. 625 00:29:15,405 --> 00:29:19,105 Like, it wasn't very loving, I feel like. 626 00:29:19,845 --> 00:29:21,410 Hmm. I understand that. 627 00:29:21,411 --> 00:29:24,022 After Lisa and I made this connection, 628 00:29:24,023 --> 00:29:25,806 Gwen wanted to meet them. 629 00:29:25,807 --> 00:29:27,373 She was super excited about it. 630 00:29:27,374 --> 00:29:30,028 And then we get a text from Gwen's grandmother 631 00:29:30,029 --> 00:29:33,379 that says they are looking forward to meeting Gwen 632 00:29:33,380 --> 00:29:35,816 but only if Gwen is in a place in her life 633 00:29:35,817 --> 00:29:37,950 where she's ready to accept them. 634 00:29:39,125 --> 00:29:40,908 And that turned her off. 635 00:29:40,909 --> 00:29:42,649 But even after the text, 636 00:29:42,650 --> 00:29:47,132 I know Gwen wants them so badly to want her. 637 00:29:47,133 --> 00:29:51,702 I feel like they had almost 18 years to reach out. 638 00:29:52,573 --> 00:29:55,967 I mean, they woke up every day and chose not to for 18 years. 639 00:29:55,968 --> 00:29:58,839 Like, that's, this isn't just the first chance 640 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,188 that they've gotten and I feel like 641 00:30:00,189 --> 00:30:02,016 they've made how they feel pretty clear. 642 00:30:02,017 --> 00:30:04,976 And I wanna be really clear that I don't disagree 643 00:30:04,977 --> 00:30:06,281 with what you're saying. 644 00:30:06,282 --> 00:30:08,806 I think your curiosity is about your dad. 645 00:30:08,807 --> 00:30:11,896 And I think it's about putting together the pieces 646 00:30:11,897 --> 00:30:14,942 of who you are and who you've come from. 647 00:30:14,943 --> 00:30:16,988 I just think like, it's weird I've never, 648 00:30:16,989 --> 00:30:19,642 like I've seen one photo of him maybe four times. 649 00:30:19,643 --> 00:30:21,340 Like, that's not normal. 650 00:30:21,341 --> 00:30:23,864 Yeah. It's the only picture I have. 651 00:30:23,865 --> 00:30:25,300 I know. 652 00:30:25,301 --> 00:30:27,215 So, that's the only picture I can show you, yeah. 653 00:30:27,216 --> 00:30:29,478 But like, that's just weird. 654 00:30:29,479 --> 00:30:31,785 I just wanna feel like I know something about him. 655 00:30:31,786 --> 00:30:35,267 I want something like, tangible that I can be like, 656 00:30:35,268 --> 00:30:37,573 this is my dad, you know what I mean? 657 00:30:37,574 --> 00:30:40,751 And not have to like, have nothing. You know? 658 00:30:43,015 --> 00:30:46,669 But like, I can't do that unless I meet them 659 00:30:46,670 --> 00:30:49,847 or have a relationship with them because they're the people 660 00:30:49,848 --> 00:30:51,761 that like, know him best, you know. 661 00:30:51,762 --> 00:30:53,503 [Bronwyn sighs] 662 00:30:56,506 --> 00:30:58,507 I really thought when you were born 663 00:30:58,508 --> 00:31:00,770 that if you didn't ever want anything, 664 00:31:00,771 --> 00:31:02,468 if I was like, a perfect parent, 665 00:31:02,469 --> 00:31:05,732 that you wouldn't miss something you didn't have. 666 00:31:05,733 --> 00:31:07,299 I kept saying to myself, 667 00:31:07,300 --> 00:31:09,214 it's not like he was here and then left. 668 00:31:09,215 --> 00:31:13,219 He was never here. It was always just you and I, right? 669 00:31:13,915 --> 00:31:15,873 It was more than enough for me. 670 00:31:15,874 --> 00:31:18,223 And so, I felt like maybe I could figure out a way 671 00:31:18,224 --> 00:31:19,964 to make that enough for you. 672 00:31:19,965 --> 00:31:22,445 And I don't think that was fair to you, Gwen. 673 00:31:23,142 --> 00:31:24,838 Of course you're gonna feel an absence. 674 00:31:24,839 --> 00:31:27,319 Of course you're gonna feel like 675 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,236 I don't know a whole half of me. Right? 676 00:31:35,458 --> 00:31:38,896 Gwen is the only individual in this scenario 677 00:31:38,897 --> 00:31:40,680 who didn't make any choices. 678 00:31:40,681 --> 00:31:42,943 And she is the only one in this scenario 679 00:31:42,944 --> 00:31:44,945 who feels the weight of all of the choices 680 00:31:44,946 --> 00:31:46,033 everyone else made for her. 681 00:31:46,034 --> 00:31:48,470 And that is something, that, 682 00:31:48,471 --> 00:31:50,255 that will keep me up at night. 683 00:31:50,256 --> 00:31:52,387 That will bother me. 684 00:31:52,388 --> 00:31:54,868 You deserve to hear about your dad from his family, 685 00:31:54,869 --> 00:31:57,088 who loved him, who knew him, 686 00:31:57,089 --> 00:31:58,612 who has all the information for you. 687 00:32:00,396 --> 00:32:01,528 Mm-hmm. 688 00:32:03,138 --> 00:32:05,096 I don't wanna push you into it. 689 00:32:05,097 --> 00:32:06,575 That's why I'm so conflicted 690 00:32:06,576 --> 00:32:08,534 'cause I don't like the way that it's happening. 691 00:32:08,535 --> 00:32:11,972 But also, I don't wanna be disappointed in myself 692 00:32:11,973 --> 00:32:13,974 that I didn't take the opportunity later on. 693 00:32:13,975 --> 00:32:15,803 I know. I know. 694 00:32:34,996 --> 00:32:36,780 - Hi, guys. - Welcome. 695 00:32:38,130 --> 00:32:40,000 - You guys excited? - Yeah, I'm scared! 696 00:32:40,001 --> 00:32:41,828 It feels windy! 697 00:32:41,829 --> 00:32:43,656 Hey, girlies! 698 00:32:43,657 --> 00:32:45,136 Hi! 699 00:32:45,137 --> 00:32:46,441 Oh my gosh. 700 00:32:46,442 --> 00:32:48,401 Let's give her a hero's welcome. 701 00:32:50,185 --> 00:32:51,838 Welcome! 702 00:32:51,839 --> 00:32:53,405 Hello! 703 00:32:53,406 --> 00:32:55,320 I've lived in Utah for a long time. 704 00:32:55,321 --> 00:32:57,278 I feel like I've done every single 705 00:32:57,279 --> 00:32:59,672 recreational activity that is available. 706 00:32:59,673 --> 00:33:04,024 But I have never gone ziplining. Until today. 707 00:33:04,025 --> 00:33:05,765 Put these on like a pair of shorts. 708 00:33:05,766 --> 00:33:07,114 I like a snug harness. 709 00:33:07,115 --> 00:33:08,898 I thought, who are the three people 710 00:33:08,899 --> 00:33:11,510 that I could actually convince to go ziplining with me? 711 00:33:11,511 --> 00:33:13,860 Come on over here, let's get some gloves. 712 00:33:13,861 --> 00:33:15,253 Oh, we need gloves, too. 713 00:33:15,254 --> 00:33:17,211 I came up with Mary Cosby, the great outdoorsman. 714 00:33:17,212 --> 00:33:20,345 - Ooh! - Oh my gosh! 715 00:33:20,346 --> 00:33:22,042 Watch your hair. Watch your hair. 716 00:33:22,043 --> 00:33:23,870 Britani, up for anything. 717 00:33:23,871 --> 00:33:26,351 Woo! Oh my gosh! 718 00:33:26,352 --> 00:33:28,701 And Lisa "likes everything" Barlow. 719 00:33:28,702 --> 00:33:31,878 Why do we have to bond over like, near-death experiences 720 00:33:31,879 --> 00:33:33,271 every time we're together? 721 00:33:33,272 --> 00:33:34,707 Everybody jump in here. 722 00:33:34,708 --> 00:33:37,449 We're gonna take ya in this Can-Am up to the top. 723 00:33:37,450 --> 00:33:40,278 Oh, Lord. This hasn't had a bath in 10 years. 724 00:33:40,279 --> 00:33:41,714 Do you think we're gonna get muddy? 725 00:33:41,715 --> 00:33:43,672 [all squealing] 726 00:33:43,673 --> 00:33:45,414 Oh, my God! 727 00:33:46,285 --> 00:33:49,200 [all laughing and screaming] 728 00:33:49,201 --> 00:33:50,549 Oh my gosh. 729 00:33:50,550 --> 00:33:52,855 - It's crazy! - It's snowing. 730 00:33:52,856 --> 00:33:54,901 - Good job! - Good job? 731 00:33:54,902 --> 00:33:58,905 Why did I wear white? What was I thinkin'? 732 00:33:58,906 --> 00:34:00,559 I ate it. I ate dirt. 733 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,083 Got like chunks on your lips. 734 00:34:03,084 --> 00:34:07,393 At least I don't have mud all over my teeth like Heather does. 735 00:34:07,871 --> 00:34:11,004 Oh, I can't do it. I can't do it. I can't do it. 736 00:34:11,005 --> 00:34:13,224 Just use your muscle mass. 737 00:34:13,225 --> 00:34:15,444 Here we go. 738 00:34:17,620 --> 00:34:20,796 We'll send you guys down at the same time. Ready? 739 00:34:20,797 --> 00:34:22,972 I'm scared, I'm scared, I'm scared. 740 00:34:22,973 --> 00:34:23,973 I'm scared. 741 00:34:23,974 --> 00:34:25,323 I can't watch. 742 00:34:25,324 --> 00:34:27,107 You guys count down. 743 00:34:27,108 --> 00:34:29,327 Three, two, one, go! 744 00:34:29,328 --> 00:34:32,287 [all shouting] 745 00:34:33,201 --> 00:34:35,073 Oh my gosh! 746 00:34:40,078 --> 00:34:41,121 Woo! Ah! 747 00:34:41,122 --> 00:34:44,038 Woo! Yay! 748 00:34:47,476 --> 00:34:48,955 You were great, Mary. Good job! 749 00:34:48,956 --> 00:34:50,261 Thank you, Britani. 750 00:34:50,262 --> 00:34:51,871 Did you like it? Did you have fun? 751 00:34:51,872 --> 00:34:54,569 I loved it. Every time I get a chance to zipline, I do it. 752 00:34:54,570 --> 00:34:56,702 I love it. I've ziplined in Jamaica. 753 00:34:56,703 --> 00:34:58,878 I've ziplined on a Disney cruise. 754 00:34:58,879 --> 00:35:01,576 It just feels liberating, and it's fun. 755 00:35:01,577 --> 00:35:05,103 Harvey, we lived. Oh. 756 00:35:06,843 --> 00:35:09,149 - That was amazing. - Yay, we did it! 757 00:35:09,150 --> 00:35:11,282 [all cheering indistinctly] 758 00:35:11,283 --> 00:35:12,457 Thank you! 759 00:35:12,458 --> 00:35:13,980 Thank you so much. That was great. 760 00:35:13,981 --> 00:35:16,200 We're gonna set up a little lunch right here. 761 00:35:16,201 --> 00:35:18,941 Oh my gosh! Charcuterie? I love it! 762 00:35:18,942 --> 00:35:20,639 I got a table and chairs. 763 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,162 This is where we're eating? 764 00:35:22,163 --> 00:35:23,642 Like, we're really roughing it today. 765 00:35:23,643 --> 00:35:25,383 Why are they pulling everything out of the trunk? 766 00:35:25,384 --> 00:35:27,167 Oh, and we have China. 767 00:35:27,168 --> 00:35:29,562 What? What are we doing? 768 00:35:32,042 --> 00:35:33,522 Tailgate? 769 00:35:34,044 --> 00:35:35,741 What is that? 770 00:35:35,742 --> 00:35:38,571 You mean like when we cook our food at the... 771 00:35:38,875 --> 00:35:42,444 When we have like, our ribs, and our barbecue and stuff? 772 00:35:43,010 --> 00:35:44,968 I brought something for you as a gift. 773 00:35:46,579 --> 00:35:49,624 What in the world? [laughs] 774 00:35:49,625 --> 00:35:52,018 You did not. A unicorn? 775 00:35:52,019 --> 00:35:53,324 That is for you to remember 776 00:35:53,325 --> 00:35:55,326 that you're a strong, magical unicorn. 777 00:35:55,327 --> 00:35:57,110 I know you like unicorn gifts. 778 00:35:57,111 --> 00:35:58,329 Yes, yes. 779 00:35:58,330 --> 00:36:00,026 - Because you had your-- - It's an ashtray? 780 00:36:00,027 --> 00:36:01,680 No, I think it's a jewelry thing. 781 00:36:01,681 --> 00:36:04,726 But when she got back from Milwaukee, Jared sent her like, 782 00:36:04,727 --> 00:36:06,554 four dozen roses and a giant, stuffed unicorn. 783 00:36:06,555 --> 00:36:09,166 But she broke up with him and wanted closure, 784 00:36:09,167 --> 00:36:11,951 and so I wanted to remind you that you might be alone, 785 00:36:11,952 --> 00:36:13,344 but you're strong. 786 00:36:13,345 --> 00:36:15,607 And how did the closure meeting go? 787 00:36:15,608 --> 00:36:17,565 Wait, did you meet up to break up? 788 00:36:17,566 --> 00:36:19,306 - Well, yeah. - Officially? 789 00:36:19,307 --> 00:36:20,568 I really don't wanna talk about it. 790 00:36:20,569 --> 00:36:22,483 I'm really kind of upset about it, actually. 791 00:36:22,484 --> 00:36:23,745 You're upset about what? 792 00:36:23,746 --> 00:36:25,791 I'm upset. I'm upset with you, Lisa. 793 00:36:25,792 --> 00:36:26,966 Me? 794 00:36:26,967 --> 00:36:28,576 Because, yes, because you grabbed my phone 795 00:36:28,577 --> 00:36:30,230 and you talked to Jared. 796 00:36:30,231 --> 00:36:31,710 You texted him, you FaceTimed him, 797 00:36:31,711 --> 00:36:32,841 and it caused this huge rift. 798 00:36:32,842 --> 00:36:34,756 Wait, wait, what caused the huge rift? 799 00:36:34,757 --> 00:36:37,716 - You! You caused the huge rift. - I caused a huge rift? 800 00:36:37,717 --> 00:36:39,544 I don't understand why you're so invested 801 00:36:39,545 --> 00:36:41,720 in me and my relationship. 802 00:36:41,721 --> 00:36:45,811 Okay. Why I'm so invested in your relationship? 803 00:36:45,812 --> 00:36:47,943 I don't understand why you would be mad at me 804 00:36:47,944 --> 00:36:51,382 because Jared's upset with you because we called him out 805 00:36:51,383 --> 00:36:52,861 for his bad behavior. 806 00:36:52,862 --> 00:36:54,689 Yeah, but like you acted on my behalf. 807 00:36:54,690 --> 00:36:56,561 Listen, and we were laughing about it. 808 00:36:56,562 --> 00:36:58,258 And we had the best time. 809 00:36:58,259 --> 00:36:59,477 But you were so mean to him. 810 00:36:59,478 --> 00:37:01,218 And it was someone that I cared about. 811 00:37:01,219 --> 00:37:03,263 - He deserved it. - How do you know? 812 00:37:03,264 --> 00:37:04,873 Because he was manipulating you. 813 00:37:04,874 --> 00:37:06,658 He literally was like, writing over and over again bestie. 814 00:37:06,659 --> 00:37:08,268 You're not even his girlfriend. 815 00:37:08,269 --> 00:37:09,748 I was his girlfriend. 816 00:37:09,749 --> 00:37:11,706 He just liked to be private about it. 817 00:37:11,707 --> 00:37:13,360 No, he's not private about it. 818 00:37:13,361 --> 00:37:15,536 He is like, somebody that I would run from. 819 00:37:15,537 --> 00:37:18,278 Lisa, I just want to be in a good space with him 820 00:37:18,279 --> 00:37:19,932 where I can at least be friends. 821 00:37:19,933 --> 00:37:22,240 And what you did might have ruined it forever. 822 00:37:36,645 --> 00:37:38,603 I just want to be in a good space with him 823 00:37:38,604 --> 00:37:39,908 where I can at least be friends. 824 00:37:39,909 --> 00:37:42,302 And what you did might have ruined it forever. 825 00:37:42,303 --> 00:37:45,000 Okay, I'm so confused right now. 826 00:37:45,001 --> 00:37:48,177 Britani, you were just thanking us all for like, 827 00:37:48,178 --> 00:37:49,614 building you up in Milwaukee 828 00:37:49,615 --> 00:37:52,181 and now you're mad at me for having a backbone for you. 829 00:37:52,182 --> 00:37:53,879 Thank God I took over your phone 830 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,924 or you'd still be in this horrible relationship. 831 00:37:55,925 --> 00:37:57,796 Stay out of it. It's none of your business. 832 00:37:57,797 --> 00:38:00,581 - Fine, I'll stay out of it. - It's none of y'all's business. 833 00:38:00,582 --> 00:38:02,191 - Leave us out of it. - Gladly. 834 00:38:02,192 --> 00:38:04,455 'Cause you're wasting a lot of time about this. 835 00:38:04,456 --> 00:38:06,587 I will 100 percent leave you out of it. 836 00:38:06,588 --> 00:38:08,023 Good! Thank you so much. 837 00:38:08,024 --> 00:38:10,635 - Leave me out too! - Leave me out, three. 838 00:38:10,636 --> 00:38:11,723 Okay, you got it. 839 00:38:11,724 --> 00:38:13,986 Ain't nobody got time for this. 840 00:38:13,987 --> 00:38:15,683 Done. You know what? 841 00:38:15,684 --> 00:38:17,946 Let's just enjoy the day. 842 00:38:17,947 --> 00:38:19,208 Moving on. 843 00:38:19,209 --> 00:38:21,733 So, Heather, how are your girls? 844 00:38:21,734 --> 00:38:24,866 They're good. Oh, Mary, you saw Georgia! 845 00:38:24,867 --> 00:38:26,085 I did. 846 00:38:26,086 --> 00:38:28,348 - She said so much fun. - She's so sweet. 847 00:38:28,349 --> 00:38:29,784 - You saw Georgia? - Mm-hmm. 848 00:38:29,785 --> 00:38:31,743 Wait where did you see Georgia? 849 00:38:31,744 --> 00:38:34,223 Oh, I don't know. The wind blew her to me. 850 00:38:34,224 --> 00:38:36,617 And I blew it back. 851 00:38:36,618 --> 00:38:38,663 How did you see Georgia? I'm confused. 852 00:38:38,664 --> 00:38:40,186 I just said it. Through the wind. 853 00:38:40,187 --> 00:38:41,753 The wind blew us together. 854 00:38:41,754 --> 00:38:43,581 Georgia's in a professional dance group 855 00:38:43,582 --> 00:38:45,583 and Mary was there at the class. 856 00:38:45,584 --> 00:38:47,498 Oh my gosh. That's cool. 857 00:38:47,499 --> 00:38:49,151 Right? Is that kinda what it was? 858 00:38:49,152 --> 00:38:51,458 So, how did you end up at Georgia's dance class? 859 00:38:51,459 --> 00:38:53,504 I was just there for the sake of it. 860 00:38:53,505 --> 00:38:55,506 Trying to get a workout. 861 00:38:55,507 --> 00:38:57,116 Trying to get a workout? 862 00:38:57,117 --> 00:38:58,727 Little bit. 863 00:39:00,990 --> 00:39:04,732 What style is it? Is it like hip hop, classic? 864 00:39:04,733 --> 00:39:06,386 It was hip hop. 865 00:39:06,387 --> 00:39:09,694 - So many secrets going on. - I know, is it like secretive? 866 00:39:09,695 --> 00:39:12,087 Like, some clandestine dance class. 867 00:39:12,088 --> 00:39:14,046 I was with Angie. 868 00:39:14,047 --> 00:39:16,049 Oh fun. 869 00:39:17,137 --> 00:39:20,792 I haven't talked to Angie, not since Milwaukee. 870 00:39:20,793 --> 00:39:22,271 Why haven't you talked to her, Lisa? 871 00:39:22,272 --> 00:39:24,839 Why haven't I talked to Angie? I don't know. 872 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,015 Yeah. Are you upset at her? 'Cause last I seen, 873 00:39:27,016 --> 00:39:28,234 you were calling her the B word. 874 00:39:28,235 --> 00:39:30,236 In Milwaukee I felt like she's not being 875 00:39:30,237 --> 00:39:32,412 a very good friend and I said it. I'm like, 876 00:39:32,413 --> 00:39:33,935 I don't think you're a good friend. 877 00:39:33,936 --> 00:39:36,111 - There has to be why. - I can talk to Angie about it. 878 00:39:36,112 --> 00:39:38,113 Because she's kinda being snarky about Lisa behind her back. 879 00:39:38,114 --> 00:39:40,725 She said I'm a bad mom. She insinuated I'm a bad mom. 880 00:39:40,726 --> 00:39:42,466 That's like the lowest blow. 881 00:39:42,467 --> 00:39:44,293 Now, that would piss me off so bad. 882 00:39:44,294 --> 00:39:47,427 You wanna talk about like, not coming from anything? 883 00:39:47,428 --> 00:39:49,734 That's where you go when you don't wanna come back. 884 00:39:49,735 --> 00:39:51,300 100 percent. It hurts. It hurts the most. 885 00:39:51,301 --> 00:39:53,520 The stakes are the highest with your own kids. 886 00:39:53,521 --> 00:39:55,174 When Heather told me, I cried. 887 00:39:55,175 --> 00:39:57,219 Well, why didn't you contact her and ask her did she say it? 888 00:39:57,220 --> 00:39:59,613 She can call me and tell me what her new issue is with me. 889 00:39:59,614 --> 00:40:01,441 If you cried about something that somebody said, 890 00:40:01,442 --> 00:40:03,008 you address them not anyone else. 891 00:40:03,009 --> 00:40:04,662 I think it took you by surprise... 892 00:40:04,663 --> 00:40:06,185 I was shocked. 893 00:40:06,186 --> 00:40:07,969 ...that she would say something about you. 894 00:40:07,970 --> 00:40:10,319 It also feels like that you champion Lisa. 895 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:11,712 I do champion Lisa. 896 00:40:11,713 --> 00:40:13,714 But you've known Angie since high school. 897 00:40:13,715 --> 00:40:16,978 I champion Angie as well. 898 00:40:16,979 --> 00:40:19,285 But in this situation, I'm on Lisa's side. 899 00:40:19,286 --> 00:40:23,724 I noticed that Heather says things that's very hurtful. 900 00:40:23,725 --> 00:40:25,552 She's always in the middle of something. 901 00:40:25,553 --> 00:40:27,728 But yet she hides her hands. 902 00:40:27,729 --> 00:40:30,339 She'll say stuff but then she's standing there 903 00:40:30,340 --> 00:40:31,689 like she's the innocent one. 904 00:40:31,690 --> 00:40:34,996 You've known Angie way longer than any of us. 905 00:40:34,997 --> 00:40:36,955 That doesn't mean I don't love and support Angie 906 00:40:36,956 --> 00:40:38,347 as a person and as my friend. 907 00:40:38,348 --> 00:40:40,349 I think Angie's just kinda taken Lisa for granted 908 00:40:40,350 --> 00:40:42,351 and she's kind of in this mode where she feels like 909 00:40:42,352 --> 00:40:44,658 she wants to change the terms of their friendship, 910 00:40:44,659 --> 00:40:47,139 but she hasn't really informed Lisa of how that's gonna happen. 911 00:40:47,140 --> 00:40:48,880 And she's just critical and snarky. 912 00:40:48,881 --> 00:40:51,622 That's kinda two-faced, Heather. 913 00:40:51,623 --> 00:40:53,058 I don't feel like it is. 914 00:40:53,059 --> 00:40:54,668 I would say everything I'm saying right now, 915 00:40:54,669 --> 00:40:56,278 right to Angie's face. 916 00:40:56,279 --> 00:40:57,497 Oh God, here we go. 917 00:40:57,498 --> 00:41:00,239 My thing is with you, I feel like, 918 00:41:00,240 --> 00:41:04,418 I feel like you leave a trail of lies. 919 00:41:05,463 --> 00:41:07,289 Like the black eye. 920 00:41:07,290 --> 00:41:08,466 What's wrong? 921 00:41:09,510 --> 00:41:11,163 I don't know how this happened. 922 00:41:11,164 --> 00:41:15,036 Then the fact that you champion body positivity 923 00:41:15,037 --> 00:41:17,431 and now that's a lie, too. 924 00:41:24,046 --> 00:41:25,917 Why are we saying she's a liar? 925 00:41:25,918 --> 00:41:27,875 Because she said body positivity is a lie. 926 00:41:27,876 --> 00:41:29,660 She didn't say I was lying about it. 927 00:41:29,661 --> 00:41:31,096 And it wasn't about me. 928 00:41:31,097 --> 00:41:32,750 I'm saying the fact that people say that they 929 00:41:32,751 --> 00:41:34,708 really champion people with different bodies 930 00:41:34,709 --> 00:41:37,407 but the truth is they champion people with beautiful bodies. 931 00:41:38,365 --> 00:41:39,408 And the truth is they just 932 00:41:39,409 --> 00:41:41,062 really all want you to be skinny. 933 00:41:41,063 --> 00:41:44,239 The entire world is criticizing the way that I'm losing weight 934 00:41:44,240 --> 00:41:46,720 or not losing weight, or what I look like, Mary. 935 00:41:46,721 --> 00:41:48,287 I don't need it from you, too. 936 00:41:48,288 --> 00:41:50,855 I'm just trying to live my goddamn life. 937 00:41:50,856 --> 00:41:53,901 And have it not be about my body for once. 938 00:41:53,902 --> 00:41:55,903 I'm not trying to hurt you, Heather. 939 00:41:55,904 --> 00:41:57,470 I know you're not. 940 00:41:57,471 --> 00:41:59,820 But it's frustrating 'cause we need to figure this out. 941 00:41:59,821 --> 00:42:02,170 And it feels like we're at an impasse. 942 00:42:02,171 --> 00:42:03,521 We do. 943 00:42:05,087 --> 00:42:07,872 Next time on "The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City". 944 00:42:07,873 --> 00:42:09,569 Look at you! 945 00:42:09,570 --> 00:42:12,746 Shawn and I are celebrating our 25th wedding anniversary. 946 00:42:12,747 --> 00:42:14,661 And the theme? Mob wives. 947 00:42:14,662 --> 00:42:17,925 I was going for like, my Todd-father died 948 00:42:17,926 --> 00:42:19,448 and I'm still mourning him. 949 00:42:19,449 --> 00:42:22,016 You love to make stuff up that I don't say. 950 00:42:22,017 --> 00:42:23,670 I don't love to make stuff up. 951 00:42:23,671 --> 00:42:25,454 He verified that you were the one that fed the information. 952 00:42:25,455 --> 00:42:27,456 I did not do that! Shut the [bleep] up about that! 953 00:42:27,457 --> 00:42:30,155 You have to deal with the lies and sift through the sh--. 954 00:42:30,156 --> 00:42:32,462 - Don't call my wife a liar. - She's a liar, Justin.