You guys are good?
Awesome.
Oh.
We're rolling.
What I've done for the last 20 years
is direct response marketing.
I make... millions.
Hey, you gotta do what you gotta do for money.
I'm like the Wizard of Oz.
Lisa and I met the first Sundance that I lived in Utah.
I know she has my back. I know she wants what's best for me.
I know there's no ulterior motive there.
She was like, "Oh, my God. You're amazing,"
and I just felt the same way about her.
I just really like that Meredith is 100% Meredith all the time.
She's super consistent, and she's a great person.
Heather and I have been friends for years.
We are actually cousins. We are bloodline relatives.
She's the best human I know,
and she's such a good friend to me.
She never explodes on me. I can tell her anything I want,
critical or otherwise, and I know that she will listen,
and we can talk it out.
Our time is coming.
I just can't lie to you. This is a test for all of us.
I wanna----ing kill myself.
Jen, you know what? Right now--
And just not be here.
Everything's been taken away from me!
Everything!
- Confide in you, Lisa. - You haven't.
'Cause I never fully trusted you.
I was talking to myself!
I was ranting like normal people do!
- To speak about your... - Yeah.
...dear friend that way. Okay.
- You are my girl, Heather. - Is it possible you're wrong...
- No. No. - ...and making it all about you?
No.
Show up for your people.
You are saying our friendship is bullsh--.
That----ing hurts me, Heather.
you for calling me a----ing liar!
You called me a liar.
You lost me, bitch. You lost me.
But what people don't know about Salt Lake City
is what lies beneath that image of perfection.
Let me say that again.
This is so unnerving. Okay.
- Hey, John. - Oh, you look great.
Thanks. Um, I'm gonna head out.
I'm gonna head to lunch right now.
Oh, yeah? How you feeling about it?
Um, I'll let you know when I'm done.
- Okay. Looking forward to it. - Okay, love you.
All right, love you.
Hello?
Hi. How are you?
Good. I just got out of a meeting. How are you?
Oh, I'm good. I'm actually on my way to, um, meet someone.
I'll probably be, like, a little unreachable
for a few hours.
Well, hello.
You were literally around the corner.
- I wasn't kidding. - No.
You look cute.
Oh, I love it.
- Hey, Heather. - Hi.
- How are you? - Good. How are you?
- Good to see you. - It's good to see you.
- This is beautiful. - Isn't it nice?
Oh, my gosh. What a gorgeous view.
Not too chilly, and the hot tub will feel nice and warm.
Okay. Put our stuff in a locker.
If someone asked me eight months ago
if I'd be hanging out with Jen...
I would look at them like they were crazy.
Did you like a comment referring to my son
as a sissy bitch?
- No! - It's your----ing Twitter, Jen!
Miracles do happen.
Oh, this looks so pretty. I can't wait to get in.
This looks phenomenal.
When Jen and I were in L.A.,
I think that she sort of got an understanding
of everything that I went through last winter.
I had some very serious issues
well beyond just losing my father.
My reactions, everything was amplified a million times over.
I totally understand, and, Meredith, honestly,
when I saw you, I saw myself a year ago.
Thank you.
Cheers. Here's to a new year and a new us.
I will drink to that.
No more fighting.
It's just all love from here on out.
Yeah. It was-- It was a tough winter
for both of us, you know?
Yeah. What are you feeling right now
after Lisa going on her tirade?
- I felt that. - It's a process, and I mean,
I'm still dealing with it in a lot of ways.
- Oh, yeah. - And I'm sure I will be
for a while, you know? - Yeah.
I've been going through so much, and you know,
my trial starts in, like, a month and a half.
And so I'm trying to plan
a birthday party for Coach Shah,
just to show Coach I-- how much I appreciate him.
And so I was planning on inviting Lisa and John.
How's everything going?
- I mean, good. - Here's a water for you.
She's gonna--She's gonna take a Vida Paloma, too.
- Excellent. Would you like poco? - I ordered for you.
Yeah, I-I trust Lisa explicitly with alcohol, so...
I agreed to meet with Lisa because she said she needed me,
and she's never said she's needed me before.
I never called Heather Shrek.
Oh, you've called me horrible things, Lisa.
I have never called you Shrek. I have never--
You've called me a LEGO figurine.
The fact that she's scraping the bottom of the barrel
to call me, the--probably the last person on the earth
that she wants to call?
If I can do something of value for Lisa,
then maybe she won't hate me as much.
To us.
I didn't expect that, but okay.
For me, it's, like, very uncomfortable to say this,
but, like, I need some help with Meredith.
I feel like you are able to navigate situations differently.
Like, I feel like you say what you're thinking,
you say what you're feeling.
And you, like, end up, like, fine,
and I feel like now, I'm like, like the worst person on earth,
in, like, Meredith's eyes. - Like you've been banished.
I need your advice. I need help.
Well...
What is most sacred to Meredith? If I were to ask you,
without any influence-- - Her family.
- Okay. - Yeah. Her family.
Yeah. And you came for her family?
I didn't feel like I came for her family.
I was in a blind rage. It wasn't intentional.
- Listen... - I get it.
Regardless, it's on the table. You did.
So you have to make it right.
The questions that are gonna be asked are
is that how you really feel about Meredith?
What do you think?
I think that's how you really feel about Meredith.
No. No. No. No.
I don't know. I'm still trying to figure out
where I stand on everything.
I mean, she went through
and completely defamed my character
on things that just aren't true.
And so then you say, "Well, where did this come from?
Are you listening to rumors and spreading rumors?
Because at the end of the day, I'm hearing rumors
left, right, and center. - About Lisa?
About Lisa. And am I spreading them? No.
So let's see. Is it--Is it just her projecting her own truth,
or is it just she decided to be a total asshole
'cause she was angry?
The sh-- Lisa Barlow said about her "sister" and best friend?
What Meredith needs to do is monetize that.
Make "Garbage trash whore" T-shirts.
So what rumors are you hearing?
Um...
There have been question marks surrounding her marriage,
um... her business and her finances.
Do I really wanna dig into Lisa's stuff?
No, I really have no interest.
But if you're going to sit there talking about everyone else,
fair game on her at this point.
Fair game.
I mean, there are-- there are affair rumors.
I'm not getting into any of it, but there are rumors.
I don't know if they're true or false.
Um... but the exist.
Yeah, I've heard the same thing.
Even if you feel like what you said is justified,
if you feel like what you said--
I didn't feel like it was justified, just so--
I mean, we have to be clear about that.
- I'm very clear about that. - It doesn't even matter.
It's like, you're in the position
where you have to say, "I didn't mean it.
It was a moment, and I'm going to have to eat sh-- for it
for a long time."
I don't think humble pie is something that Lisa
likes to eat, will ever eat,
or will for sure never pretend to enjoy eating.
And all three of those things need to occur
for her to bridge this gap with Meredith.
I've eaten so much humble pie,
it's amazing I still fit in this dress.
I think there needs to be give on both sides, honestly.
But the bigger side has to come from you.
- Okay. - Because you said
the mean things that are out there forever.
Okay, I hear you. I hear you.
Coming up...
If you say to the Church,
"I want you to ex-communicate me.
I want to remove my name from the records,"
what changes in your day-to-day life?
What's up, Bobbie Rose?
Wait, what?
Pros and cons about guys?
- Yes! - What do you mean by guys?
- Like, men. - Like, men?
Yes.
How old are you, Bobbi Rose?
Let me see what you got. Pros...
Athletic.
- Good style. - Nice.
- That's a big one. Hi, Dad. - Hey.
Dad, come look at this.
She's writing a pros and cons list about guys.
You're gonna take that one up with your daddy.
Well, I'm really worried
that there's not as many cons as there are pros.
I don't know how I feel about that.
Whit?
- Hello! - Hey!
Get in here. I need a rescue right now.
- Hi. - Hi.
- You need a rescue? - Yes, I need--
What's going on?
I need--I need you to tag in here.
- Hi, Bobbie. - Hi.
This is a department I don't know much about.
What's up? What are we working on?
Pros and cons about guys.
Well, it's gonna be hard to get any cons from me, Bobbie.
She's completely and utterly boy-crazy.
Sixth grade. Like, think of sixth grade.
I didn't have my first kiss till 15.
That's too long!
I didn't have my first kiss till 15 either.
Oh, my gosh. Okay.
But I still wanted it in sixth grade.
I was a good little Mormon girl,
and I followed all the rules.
I was not interested in boys
until the Mormon Handbook told me I could be.
I just put, "Doesn't do what's asked of me,"
so I think they don't listen to me.
Honey, you gotta take that off your list.
You don't want someone
that does exactly what you ask them to do all the time.
Bobbie Rose has some ridiculously high standards.
I think you can dress a guy. I don't think style matters.
Oh, yeah. That is true.
I just wanna take, like, a Sharpie
and just be like, "Never gonna get it.
Never gonna get it. Never gonna get it.
Settle. Settle. Settle."
Not attractive. Ugly sex-- it's gonna change your life.
Let's switch that one over, too.
I want to be as hopeful as Bobbie Rose
when I make out my pros and cons list, honestly.
- Let's go downstairs. - What can I get you to drink?
Whatever you guys are drinking.
There's rosé or a really nice tequila.
You know what? In a nod to me being Team Lisa Barlow lately,
let's do a tequila.
All right. Got you.
- Hi. - Hi. [laughs]
I need to talk to you. I'm dying.
What's going on?
I'm on my way to meet up with Lisa.
It's good. As much as I wanna be like, "No! Run,"
we need to get over our sh--.
- When did you do this? - Yeah, we made it a speakeasy.
- Yeah. - Yeah.
And you can lock the bookshelves.
- It has the lock up top. - Oh, my gosh.
This is so cool... you guys. Yes!
Feels good to me, too.
I love it, and, like, close the door, padlock it,
don't let the kids in.
The fact that we have a bar in our home is a big deal.
I never knew anyone with a bar.
I remember, like, going to my friend's house,
and, like, seeing her parents, like, drinking wine,
and being like, "OMG."
But, no, I, um, you know I've been, like, on this, like,
healing journey, and I had a big healing session
with Megan the other day.
So the past keeps showing up over and over.
'Cause I don't have a memory of it.
Yeah, and I think that's what's manifesting in your gut.
It's wanting to stay in the past,
trying to resolve what happened in the past.
The great thing about this trauma
with your early childhood is clearing out this old energy
allows you to move forward.
This energy we're gonna hand to the universe.
Up and over your body.
Think of this trauma.
Ask yourself, "Is it still here?"
- Can I hug you? - Yes, please do.
And it really hit me that one of the biggest tethers
or, like, wounds I have is the Church.
And I came to the realization that I'm ready
to close that chapter and leave officially
and ask them to remove my name.
If you say to the Church,
"I want you to ex-communicate me.
I want to remove my name from the records,
what changes in your day-to-day life?
Nothing changes in my day-to-day life.
But to know Whitney is to know
that the freedom that comes with the release
is what she's truly, truly--
So this is about inner...
I'm doing this for Bobbie and Brooks
so that they do not fall into my cycle
of limited beliefs, of not being good enough,
and not being heard.
Having my name on the record of the Mormon Church
means that they're still tracking what I'm doing.
That means that they still
send people to my house to check on me.
They still come to collect money.
Even when you move, they know where you move,
and your record transfers.
- It makes sense. - You have to understand,
I still have this tether...
- Well, yeah, that's-- - ...to this programming,
to this mindset... - Indoctrination.
...and so, like, the treatment of women,
about women are subordinate to men, I wanna break that,
because I am a woman, and I can do whatever I want
because I'm a human.
When you do this process, you are saying...
- I'm done. - ...I choose outer darkness...
- Mm-hmm. - ...and no communion with God
over being numbered as a member of the Mormon Church?
The Mormons believe that our names are recorded,
like, in a ledger for God.
When you elect to have your name removed from the list,
it's like a steel door
on their version of heaven and their community forever.
What do you have to do right now?
Like, what's gonna happen?
I can literally, literally go to QuitMormon.com.
How easy is that?
I mean, there's no doubt watching her do this
that I'm thinking, "Can I, will I, would I ever do this?"
"I demand that you remove my name
completely from your records within..."
"Five business days of receipt."
- Wow. - I printed it.
But, like, even with my dad gone,
I still wanna be a good daughter,
and even with my mom not speaking to me,
I still wanna be a good daughter.
And... I don't know if my family would recover
if they knew I did that.
I've done a lot of sh--ty things to Mormonism, you know?
I've hurt my family in so many ways,
but I feel like that would be,
like, the final knife in their back.
And I'm not there yet.
- Heather. - You printed it?
This is the letter.
Holy sh--.
Do you feel like there's anything there for you?
Babe, I can't sign this fast enough.
Thank you for being here for me, Heather.
- I know you hate-- - Babe, you are my exemplar.
- You are fearless. - I know you hate
when I get all mushy and touchy-feely on you.
Bring it in. I love a little mush. I love you.
You are...
Coming up...
She's questioning our finances, yet I see SEC documents that
say that their company's not making money.
Hey, you know the fireplace?
How do you turn that on?
Okay, I'm gonna put you on FaceTime. Okay, hold on.
Okay, so bring me closer. It's on the left.
- Right here? - Okay.
And then to the right, you see those knobs?
Oh, right here.
Put it on "pilot," and then push that red button.
I've been adjusting to the new house. Okay?
I went from 9,000 square feet...
...to half of that.
I went from the Barbie Dreamhouse closet, okay?
- Oh, my gosh. Jen. - So...
I love this.
...to, like, a normal-sized closet.
- Cool? - Yeah...
Coach Shah, who is the voice of reason in our marriage,
sat me down, and we discussed this.
We can get a smaller spot. We don't have to pay as much.
Because the most important thing is
being able to fight for your freedom.
- Hi, honey. - What are you doing?
I'm trying to start the fireplace.
Oh, honey. It's better just to leave it alone.
Along with downsizing the house,
I also had to downsize the Shah Squad.
Okay, I'll talk to you later.
So I'm doing my best. That's all I can say.
I'm doing my very, very best.
How was work today?
Long. Long, baby.
Baby, can I get a coffee? That'll be nice.
Okay.
A coffee or tea or something?
Um... let's talk about the party.
Okay.
This is Coach's 51st birthday.
Angie Katsanevas said I could use her house to hold it.
Angie and I have been friends since college.
She also went to high school with Heather.
She's good friends with Lisa.
So when she offered up her house,
I'm like, this will be perfect.
Obviously, this will be little cocktail tables.
We've got the piano player in the corner.
- Back in the corner. - Oh, with an actual piano?
- Yes. - Jen's got a piano player.
We're dropping a piano here Friday.
I'm used to hosting these parties at my house.
Make way for the dancers.
But every penny is literally going to fighting my case.
You might not think this, but I can operate on a budget.
The theme of the party is "Harlem Nights,"
'cause you love that movie.
Okay, honey.
You remember we're in Utah, okay?
- I know that. - Salt Lake City,
and "Harlem Nights" was in Harlem.
Lot of Black folks, which we're void of here.
So we going to import Black people here?
- Like, what are we gon' do? - Yes. Yes, we are.
- So I'm--I'm inviting the bruhs. - Who?
- Your fraternity brothers. - Which ones?
- The ones here are coming. - That's what's up. Okay. Good.
Okay? Some of our family's coming.
- Who else is coming? - I invited Heather and Whitney.
I was planning on inviting Lisa and John
'cause I know you would want John there at your party.
But Meredith's gonna be there.
What I don't want is to use a party as some platform
for somebody to confront something.
"Oh, I need to tell her about how I feel."
Do that sh-- someplace else. There's a lot of other things
that are so much more important than this,
and what I wanna do is have a good time.
As we come closer to, you know, the trial date,
that in and of itself is a lot to deal with.
My trial is seven weeks from today.
It's on March 22nd.
I'm the only defendant left that is still going to trial.
I have no idea what's going on
with the other defendants in this case.
I have no idea why they've taken a plea deal.
But I'm not gonna take a plea deal when I'm not guilty.
I'm innocent.
We need to get to New York for a pre-trial meeting,
and more than anything, it's just a million tons of documents
that we have to continue to review and analyze.
I would be lying if I said I wasn't scared.
I'm not thinking about myself. I'm thinking about my family.
I can't imagine being away from them.
It would literally kill me.
There's still other individuals we need to talk to
regarding their participation in the trial.
There's a bunch of deadlines they were telling me about.
- Right. - You know, coming up next week.
We have a lot of things that we have to get ready for.
What did you get ramen noodles for?
Did you think we're college students or something?
- Who wants ramen noodles? - Really?
For a guy who can't keep a job, this is what we eat.
Next time, I can't send you.
That's what happens when you send me to the grocery store.
- I should have never sent-- - I mean, really?
- I mean, yes. - Jelly?
Well, the best brand in the world.
This is crazy. This is a lot of stuff.
- The groceries? - No, just getting,
like, situated here and figuring it all out.
The question is where do you wanna trench down?
I'm not ready to trench down quite yet.
I'm kind of having fun being, like, an empty-nester wanderer.
Our children are out of the house.
Seth is working remotely for the most part.
So we're enjoying being able to go wherever we want,
whenever we want, and despite what Lisa says,
I could own multiple homes if I wanted to.
The only reason I even care about that commentary
is not only could she hung you and your career
with spewing her nonsense B.S.,
but you have 4,000 employees
that her negative commentary can impact their livelihood.
That's pretty self-centered.
What does Seth do, really?
Well, what does John Barlow do for a living
other than follow Lisa around?
I need a Diet Coke from Sonic. I want Taco Bell.
Two tables and four chairs.
I'm gonna go inside because it's cold.
John is the best 'cause I would not do that for him.
Well, hurry, 'cause I gotta send wires.
- Yep, I'll hurry. - Let me get this done fast.
Sorry I'm keeping you from doing your job.
Honestly, I totally understand John Barlow.
What can I do for you right now?
We have our own business together, so it's Lisa and I...
Absolutely.
...doing the business with Vida.
We own everything together.
I can neither confirm nor deny.
Is he responsible for 4,000 employees?
I mean, I hear that they own this distillery in Mexico.
Have they ever gone to Mexico since we met them?
She's questioning our, you know, finances,
yet I see SEC documents that
their company was not making money.
- Fact. - Really?
It's a legal public document that anyone can read.
It just shows that the Barlows were crowd-funding
for their business.
In 2018, the company was reporting losses
and had some outstanding debts.
So it raises a question mark, that's for sure.
This is just like a projection.
Like, she's busy questioning our relationship,
affairs, cheating, whatever you wanna call it,
sleeping with people,
yet those rumors are flying about her.
Lisa tries to show this life of perfection,
and what I hear from others,
if everything I'm hearing is actually true,
her life is... not so great.
Like, that's the most absurd thing unless
you're super defensive because you're hiding something else.
I have never exchanged sex for money.
That's what a whore is.
Maybe someone else has. I don't know.
- Did you reach out to her? - Why would I reach out to her?
I'm not reaching out to her to ask her to apologize to me.
That doesn't work.
It's very sad that somebody just wants to throw away
a 10-year friendship over some skeletons
in their own closet.
I'm not convinced that these buttons are gonna work, but...
Get 'em really in there.
Throughout the party and just pop!
Should I wear pasties just in case?
I probably would.
Let's get you in your dress, Jen.
Let me go put my Spanx on.
Okay.
- I got brown right here. - No.
First of all, that's not the vibe.
- What is it? Brooklyn nights? - Harlem. Really?
Wow. It's beautiful. Thank you so much.
Love the cake. This looks so good.
Would you like a drink?
Hi, Whitney!
- Hi, Angie. - Thank you so much for coming.
- Working. He had an event. - Oh, okay.
- Hi, babe. - Hi! Oh, hi!
- Hi, gorgeous. - Look at you!
- Get over here. - Oh, my gosh.
Got our little tassels.
I've known Angie K. since I moved to Utah
when I was 15 years old.
At our 10-year reunion, she, like, pulled up
in, like, a Lamborghini.
The rest of us had, like, six kids
and, like, we're wearing, like, outfits from Old Navy.
She was for sure
the coolest girl at the 10-year reunion.
Look at you two BFFs, so cute.
- We dearly love each other. - We're--We're good.
Kissin' cousins. The kissin' cou--buzzin'.
- The buzzin' cousins. - The cousins.
Ooh, this is pretty.
It sounds like there's fun happening. I love that.
You know, I mean, I don't know what I'm walking into tonight.
Like, seeing Meredith and Seth at this point
is gonna be awkward.
Hi! How are you?
I know if the roles were reversed,
I would at least be open to hearing the apology,
and if it's sincere, I'm sure I would accept it.
- You look gorgeous. - Thank you.
I wouldn'’t throw away a 10-year friendship
over one bad moment.
Hey, you, you look so good.
Thank you. You look great, too. Glitz, glam, and gangster.
- I know. Whoo! Hi, Whitney. - Hi, Lisa.
- Ooh, I like the hair, too. - Thank you.
How are you guys? Should we cheer?
Yes.
Yeah, this is what it's supposed to look like.
Hey.
Y'all, they just got here.
Okay, come on in.
Too much. Too much.
That's why I'm gonna get out of the scene.
Oh, I think that's Jen.
Whoo!
Look at you!
It's the birthday boy and girl.
Cheers.
I should have worn sequins.
I'm, like, the only one not sparkly.
You look gorgeous, worth the wait.
- You, too. Oh, my gosh. - Happy birthday!
- How are you? - I'm good. How are you?
The party looks absolutely beautiful.
- Hi. - You look gorgeous.
Now if I hosted this at my home,
it would have been a little bit different.
It was hard for me to, like, let go.
- Thanks for having us. - Come on, baby. I love you.
- Thank you. - And we're here for you guys
if you need anything.
Go, red. Uhh! That's what I'm talkin' 'bout.
- Easy 8. - Oh!
Easy 8 over here.
- Hi! - Oh!
Oh!
Yeah.
- Good. Just like... so busy. - Yeah.
Hi.
We're doing a hard seltzer right now. It's like, crazy.
Yeah.
This is my friend Nikisha from college.
- Hi. - This is Meredith.
So nice to meet you.
Do you mind getting me a drink, babe?
Yeah. What do you want?
Um, something with Vida. I need tequila.
Yeah, hit it!
Whoo-hoo!
Hey, your oldest baby-- I gotta ask you.
- Santa Barbara? - Santa Barbara.
She loves it? Tell her to go to class, 'cause it's beautiful.
Listen, she's going to class.
She got straight A's first quarter.
Oh, Mom! Mom! I know. Listen.
- Mom! - And she Facetimed me.
- Mom! - Yes, sir.
Big Baby.
- How you feeling? - Good, good.
We about to get stupid up in here.
Now tell me about Big Daddy. Is he your friend?
- Yeah! - Is he gonna be my friend?
Might be yours.
I am a big fan. I love your game.
- You know who that is? - Big Baby?
You know who Glen Davis is, right?
Correct.
How tall are you?
- Baby. - He's a short 6'8".
Yeah, short. You're a short, stocky 6'8".
The upgrade from Big Daddy to Big Baby is like going
from a Shirley Temple to a Piña Colada.
I heard you were the Big Easy. Are you not...
I heard you were the Big Easy.
Anything to drink, sir?
You know what? Could I do a cranberry and orange juice?
Oh, of course.
Oh, yes, yes. Pop that booty. Pop that booty. Pop.
- Whitney. - Nice to meet you.
Nice to meet you.
Did you put shimmer on your ta-tas?
- I did. - They look good.
I got a little shimmer going.
Thanks for having this for Sharrieff. It's amazing.
It's so...
Oh!
So we're this...
It's a good night, and I'm just saying, like,
I met with Lisa.
And I haven't had the chance to talk to you about it,
and, like, I don't wanna burden tonight with it.
But the fact that you're here is to me, like, maturity.
I don't think it's a big deal.
I think it's a huge deal.
If anyone should be wallowing and crying
in the corner at home, it's not me.
I didn't do anything wrong.
I love that Meredith is a woman of principle,
but on that same note, there's a Mormon proverb that says,
"Where much is given, much is expected."
So if you've given 10 years to a friendship,
you're expected to have a conversation
about a path to forgiveness.
It is brave of you to be here tonight.
You can also just walk away and say,
"I don't have to be around that."
You had that option, you know?
Coming up...
Hey, Seth. How are you?
Look, look, look, look.
Why is this happening here?
Uh, give me 50 on that hard 4, Randy.
Hi, baby.
So glad you're having a good time. I'm so happy.
- Man, I'm so-- - Enjoy yourself.
- Oh, bless yourself. - Enjoy yourself.
I'm so happy.
I'm happy you're having a good time.
- Man, Mama. - You never relax.
- I know, huh? - All right, go, boy.
- Do your thang. - Come on, you wanna get
a little something to sip on? - Oh.
- Everybody! - Come on.
- Whoo! - Shh!
- We need Jen to make a speech. - Shh!
Everybody, we need Jen to make
a little toast to the birthday boy.
Coach doesn't really like
celebrating his birthday that much.
I don't.
But, you know, this year was very special.
It was important for me to show you
how much I love and appreciate you.
I know we've been through a lot.
And, um...
because of everything we've been going through,
it means more to me than ever
in my life to have people that I know...
that really, truly love me
and love our family.
- We love you, Jen! - MAN #2: We love you, baby!
- That's right! - Always.
And to everybody that has been there and just...
thank you for being here to wish Coach a happy birthday,
because this birthday, I think, means more to me
than anything because we can still be here together
to celebrate it.
I know that's right!
Amen.
And, Angie and Shawn, thank you so much.
Thank you for opening up your home,
and for celebrating with us.
The one thing that can bring me to tears almost instantly
is thinking of life without my wife by my side.
That's hard to... it's hard to stomach.
Make a wish, baby.
- Yeah. - I'm doing good.
Good to see you, man.
- Are you in town long? - This week,
but, yeah. Yeah.
Well, if you can break away, let me know.
Yeah. It's, uh...
It... whatever our wives are-- I hope that's...
Yes.
Our relationship--
I'm not accountable for Meredith's behavior.
I know you're not accountable for Lisa's behavior.
- I have to believe that... - Yes.
...'cause I know it's true for me.
Oh, for sure. For sure. No, that'll never change.
- Yeah. - Never change at all.
I do like your tie.
Thank you, man. You look sharp. Looking good.
Hey, hey, hey, hey!
♪ Hit it, Rico, hit it, Rico
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey!
♪ Hit it, Rico, hit it, Rico
- Aah! - Whoo!
-♪ Hit it, Rico, hit it Rico - Oh, there you go.
You better slow down, baby! You know you gotta slow down!
Well, you do know that.
- Hey. - Hi! Oh, my gosh.
What if I have a King? What if I have a King?
Yeah, a King for a Queen. A King for a Queen.
I love it.
I'm gonna pinch you some chips. How are you doing?
- How's your night? - Good. Oh, my gosh. Good.
Are you gonna say anything to Meredith or Seth?
I don't think the time's right right now.
I just don't think it's the right time.
Time's not about that. You know what I mean?
- Yeah. - You can save that for another.
Especially with everything Jen has going on,
I really just wanna be here for her.
It's, like, hard now. It's about to get harder.
Well, that's the thing. That's what we keep hearing,
is that she just really needs us to be there for her, so...
In that moment, I was kinda thinking,
why don't we hurry and take a quick trip
before she goes to New York?
We need to. Where should we go?
- Build on that good energy. - Where should we go?
Somewhere close, not a long flight.
- Somewhere we can just, like-- - Somewhere warm, sunshine.
I was thinking Arizona.
- Oh, my God. I'm in. Let's go. - All right.
I will take care of everything.
I'll take care of all the details.
- Should we put a bet in? - Okay.
- Okay, girl. - I'm gonna go all in.
Oh! Let's go all in!
I'm going all in on the girls' trip.
You better.
14, 16.
- Bet 5 more. - I'm gonna hit.
- The book says hit. - Getting...
Oh!
There's no hope for our friends!
No hope.
Look at her.
- Yes. - Mom, don't be trying
to be mean. No young tender for you, Mom.
It looks good, right?
Yes. The best thing is the octopus.
- Oh, my God. - It's so good.
- Hey. - Hi. How are you?
I wanted to say hi.
Okay. Um...
At some point, I wanna talk to you
if you're open to it.
- Sure. - Not tonight.
You know what? You've had two months nearly now
to reach out to me and tell me you wanna talk to me.
Well, I just want you to know I love you
and I'm really, really sorry.
Leave me alone.
Look. Look, look. Look.
Okay.
Hey, Seth. How are you?
- Good. How are you? - Can I hug you?
- Is it okay? You don't have to. - No, I don't...
That's huge.
It was crazy, so I don't still-- trying to understand it.
Yeah. I'm sorry.
Meredith was devastated.
I know. I know.
- It was hard on me. - Yeah, I know.
You made some comments about me that I couldn't believe either.
I regret all of it.
Seth, I can't even believe I said those things.
I don't feel that way about Meredith.
I don't feel that way about you. Like, I don't. Like, I don't.
Seth, I can't even believe I said those things.
I don't feel that way about Meredith.
I don't feel that way about you.
Like, I don't. Like, I don't.
Seth is talking to Lisa right now.
Whatever, you know?
What... we were surprised by that, that, like...
- I know. - ...wasn't the Lisa we know.
- Yeah. - That behavior was... so hurtful.
I hope you can understand that, like,
I literally haven't been able to sleep.
Like, it's been weighing on me,
and, like, John's, like, "It's gonna be okay."
But, like, it doesn't feel like it.
Why is this happening here? She's had a month.
She could've texted me. She could've texted Seth.
She could've texted my children.
She hasn't said anything, right?
No! Like, if you wanna talk to him, then tell us,
but why are you attacking my husband right now
while we're trying to have fun and celebrate your husband?
Literally, Seth, it was like a blind, like, rant.
Have you--You know what the root of that was?
It was never before that trip.
Like, I'd never thought those things.
I don't even think those things now, but, like,
on the van on the way down, everyone's like,
"She's not your friend. Like, that's not your friend,"
and then, like, just hearing it over and over again,
did that make sense?
Not--None of it makes sense to me.
Like, to--to get to where you got to,
I can never imagine myself saying something like that
about someone we love.
And, Seth, I understand that.
Like, I don't even remember saying those things.
And I-I did feel hurt.
Like, I understand Meredith was hurting. I was hurting, too.
I'm not--I'm not making excuses,
but I was coming from a place of hurt.
- It just seemed so hateful. - It was. It was hurt.
I'm human, and I was hurting. It wasn't hate.
It was hurt. I'm one of five girls,
and, like, I'm a girls' girl.
I have four sisters that I'm, like, very responsible for,
and, like, I have my stuff going on, too, Seth.
Nobody knows what goes on for me.
Nobody asked me, and then I'm trying to, like,
be there for others.
I've never talked badly about Meredith to anyone.
There's not one person in this friend group
that can say I've ever said anything about her.
The rant was...
I know, but I thought I was in a private space
just, like, hurting.
It wasn't meant for anybody else to hear.
And, like, I don't expect you to, like, like, forgive.
She's hurt more than me, and rightfully so.
It's hard right now, so, like, we'll just keep moving forward.
Thanks for listening to me.
Do I have a problem saying I'm sorry? Never.
Do I have a problem taking accountability
for my actions or my words? Not at all.
But at some point, if it's not being heard,
and the apology isn't being accepted,
there's nothing more I can do. I have to move on.
- Do you care if we leave? - You okay?
- What was she saying? - I wasn't ready for it.
- Why did you even go there? - What was I gonna do?
I would say, "It's not the time and place."
The bad news is she doesn't-- She seems to be excusing it
and not taking accountability for it.
Is it an apology when you're excusing the behavior?
No.
- Thank you, guys. - Thank you, guys.
Love you. Bye. Good night.
Next time on "The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City"...
We're gonna plan a little party. It's gonna be called
the "Garbage Trash Whore" lingerie party.
- That's not good. - I'll just say G.T.W.
G.T.W.
I love Arizona in the winter.
What's up?!
I missed you!
No.
I love you both, and maybe it's at the point now
where there can be a conversation,
and she can hear you.
Have you talked to her about it?
Yes.
Meredith brought up rumors about Lisa having--
- About what? - Affairs.
I just heard that she was, you know,
doing favors to help get places to pick up Vida Tequila.
You have to swallow it and bury it.
We have a shaman coming.
She recommended not drinking.
Yeah.
- How are we feeling? - I had some anxiety.
Well, I used to feel like I was a safe space for you.
You are not a safe space, Lisa.
I mean, I'm not gonna lie.