Previously on "The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City"...
MAN: * Hit it, Rico, hit it, Rico *
-Whoo! -Hi!
* Hey *
At some point I wanna talk to you
if you're open to it. -You know what?
You've had two months to reach out to me.
Well, I just want you to know I love you,
and I'm really, really sorry. -Leave me alone.
I'm hearing rumors left, right, and center about Lisa.
-That they exist. -Yeah.
We need to get to New York for a pre-trial meeting.
My trial is seven weeks from today.
I would be lying if I said I wasn't scared.
Why don't we hurry and take a quick trip
before Jen goes to New York? And I was thinking Arizona.
-Scottsdale. -Oh, my God. I'm in. Let's go.
So, the past keeps showing up over and over.
'Cause I don't have a memory of it.
Clearing out this trauma with your early childhood
allows you to move forward.
-Can I hug you? -Yes, please do!
***
JEN: I'm fighting for my life, not your approval.
***
WHITNEY: I am more of a free spirit
without the Holy Spirit.
***
LISA: I'll always have your back
if you stop stabbing me in mine.
MEREDITH: When I take a shot, I always hit my mark.
***
HEATHER: I may be a bad Mormon,
but I'll always be a good time.
***
[grunting]
Oh. Ah.
Aah!
Out.
If I lose, you give me a 3-hour massage?
[laughs] No.
[laughs]
***
I'm impressed that you're up. Like, didn't you have
your fraternity, sorority thing last night?
I did go out last night.
But, you know, I'm up and going, 8 a.m.
I didn't know that Thursday nights were big nights.
In my defense, they weren't big nights at BYU.
***
Have you talked to your counselor
about colleges or places you wanna go?
We really gotta get serious about this.
Do you want me to call the school?
You know he doesn't want you to do it.
I know.
***
Bubba, come here. Come try this.
***
Is that too big? Wait.
Jen?
Hi, Mom. I'm in the kitchen.
CHARLENE: Oh, okay.
Ooh. How nice.
A keto-friendly charcuterie snack board for you.
I got your favorite thing for us to do.
What is that?
-A puzzle. -Oh, good.
Ever since the legal situation happened,
my mom is somebody I lean on a lot.
Let's sit down over here.
The fact that I can be accused of these things
that I'm innocent of, it scares me.
I need to know that I'm gonna be okay,
and she gives me that reassurance and comfort.
This puzzle's the North Shore Hawaii.
But a thousand pieces? Really?
Oh, wait, look, here's three pieces are put together.
Yay! There you go.
So, I had a call with my lead trial attorney, Priya.
It's getting-- You know, it's getting closer.
Yes.
So yesterday, was like a mock trial of the prosecution side.
Umm, it was--it was rough.
Because you have to sit there and not say anything.
-Right, right, right. -So you have to listen
to all these things being said about you where
you wanna be like, "No, that's not true," "No, that's a lie."
-Oh, okay. -And you...you know?
So I only stormed out, like, twice.
Oh, that's good.
So I have to fly to New York next week.
Next week already?
Just for meetings with the legal team.
How are the boys doing with all of this, though?
Um...it's been hard.
Sharrieff told me the other day that...
[voice breaking] he walked into Omar's room,
and Omar was crying.
He's like, "What's wrong?" And Omar said,
"I just don't wanna be without my mom, Dad."
[clicks teeth]
I know-- I know it affects him a lot,
but he just tries to be super strong around me.
It breaks my heart
knowing that Omar is worried about me.
I know... [sniffles]
how I would feel if I was wondering
if my mom would be around.
Because I rely so much on her.
You know, if I didn't have a great, loving husband...
-Yeah. Yeah. -...and kids,
Mom, I wouldn't still be here on this earth.
I could not get up every day
and listen to all of the negative sh--
that is thrown at me,
and people saying all this stuff,
people that don't know me.
They want to just tear you down
until you don't want to live anymore.
Every single day. I get bullied every single day,
and then it's Sharrieff's job to come home... [sniffles]
and try to lift me up this much so that I don't... [sobbing]
want to ----ing kill myself and just not be here!
It's too painful!
Every day for a year I've been dealing with this?
Jen, you know what? Right now you're...I don't know how to--
Mom, I just am... telling you.
I know. I know. But you know what?
I-I don't have answers for you, other than...
I need you here.
We'll get through all of this together.
And as much as it might hurt the boys and everything else,
just think what it would be like if you weren't here.
But, Mom, this-- that's what makes me mad.
My--no one has-- I haven't done anything.
And my family doesn't deserve this.
You don't deserve it. [exhales deeply]
You know what? That's okay. We're strong people.
We'll get through this together.
[exhales deeply]
[sighs]
-[sniffles] Thanks, Mom. -Yeah.
-Love you. -Love you.
***
[engine roars]
***
[dog barks]
***
[doorbell rings, barking intensifies]
WHITNEY: Rocky. Rocky! I said stay. Stay.
-Hello! -Hi!
Doing a little dog training.
-I love it. -Come on in.
I was just making you a charcuterie board.
Oh, wow. Oh, that looks beaut-- You made this yourself?
-Uh, yes. -Really?
-Yeah. -Great job.
-Chardonnay? -Yeah, that would be great.
Fabulous. Thank you, honey. [laughing]
Screw top. Makes Mom's job easy.
Right?
-Hi. -WHITNEY: Hi!
MEREDITH: Hi, guys. What's going on?
I made them walk today 'cause it's such a nice day.
Come give me a hug and then go wash your hands.
-Hi, Brooks. -BROOKS: Can I go--
Did you wash with soap? Yeah, go put your stuff away.
-We're gonna just be-- -Brooks and Brooks need to meet.
Yes, Brooks, you know Meredith has a son named Brooks, right?
[laughs]
Do you wanna sit outside?
-Yeah, let's sit outside. -I can get you a blanket.
I think you might need a jacket.
-Yeah. -[chuckles]
In all the years that I've known Meredith,
she's never shown any interest in coming over to my house
and spending time with me.
-You wanna sit right here? -Sure.
But since her recent falling out with Lisa,
it seems she has time for me.
[barks]
You can wrap yourself up in that.
Oh, thank you. Thank you so much. This is great.
Now I'm comfy cozy.
So what else is going on? Tell me.
It's been a little-- a little crazy, right?
Yeah. I mean, I feel like
I need to ask you how you're doing.
I'm okay, you know?
Did you have fun at the party?
Yeah. I mean... it was awkward with Lisa.
You know? It's just-- there's no, like,
practice what you preach with her.
She's so, just, hypocritical.
And then she's always telling everyone else
that they're hypocritical, and they're wrong,
and they're this, and they're that.
She has bad-mouthed every single one of us in our circle.
I don't wanna lose our liquor license
over somebody's wedding in their basement
with a stripper pole.
Well, I used to hear stories. I think she was, like,
the one that was, like, "Honor Code what?"
She was meeting up with somebody other than her family.
----ing piece of sh-- garbage whore.
You say to yourself, "Whoa, why are you so busy
trying to put everyone else down in this way
when there are all these rumors flying about you?"
***
Well, what have you heard?
Jen just made reference to there having been affairs.
What do youknow?
[crunching]
I just heard that she was, you know, doing favors
to help get places to pick up Vida Tequila.
I have no idea if it's true or false.
It sounds absurd to me.
I know that sounds absurd, but it's really not,
because I've actually heard the same thing.
-You have heard that? -Yes.
I have a-a friend, and...
it's a mutual friend of Lisa's,
and he's very wealthy and very well known in Utah.
And I've heard that she slept with him to sway him
to invest in...her businesses.
I don't know, but I feel bad talking behind her back.
The last thing I want to do is sit and talk about Lisa
behind her back. I'm just trying to understand,
like, how did we even get here?
I don't know, but during my last healing session with Megan,
my energy healer, I was able to connect...
...to Lisa.
It's still stuck. What's coming to mind?
Um, actually, it's Lisa.
I always see her as, like, big, mean, nasty.
But I just saw her as, like, a scared little girl.
-The inner child. -Yeah.
Wow.
When I felt her and saw her, I realized...
that maybe there is something there that...
is, like, worth fighting for.
Wow.
I hear you. I just don't know, um...
At this point, in my view, like...
why am I bothering? You know?
Yeah. But hear me out. We have this trip coming up.
I know that Jen, you know, she needs us.
And I am hijacking all the bulls---.
It really is gonna be about healing.
-[laughs] Okay, for real? -For reals.
We can do this. We can come together.
Okay.
Coming up...
I used to feel like I was a safe space for you,
and I'm sorry.
You are not a safe space, Lisa.
***
LISA: Ooh. Oh. Are you kidding me?
Yeah, that extra foot you grew is coming in handy.
You ready for some competition?
Uh-huh.
Ooh! Yikes. Maybe not.
Come on. Try and take it away.
Ooh. [laughs]
Let me see you do a little layup.
[laughing]
How's everything going with your SATs?
Oh! [laughing]
Very mid-tier. I have to re-take 'em.
What are you thinking about with college?
I don't know.
-[rim clatters] -Ooh.
Like you still wanna go, or no?
-I don't know. -You don't know?
Like if you don't go to college, what would you do?
I don't know. Probably end up richer
than if I went to college.
So walk me through this logic. Whoa.
So, like, walk me through your logic.
Killer company.
So if I just kill it with that, then I can start other companies
and just become successful.
LISA: Jack has always been a straight-A student.
Like, always the leader in his class, always involved.
And so this whole thing is, like, surprising me.
I'm, like, why are you all of a sudden so emphatic
about not going to college?
You know, the way my dad raised me,
like I graduated from high school when I was 17.
And my dad was like, "You're on your own now, basically."
I love that you have your own business,
but you have your own business
'cause Daddy and I worked hard, too.
Uh, this is Fresh Wolf.
It's a company me and my brother started.
Uh, we have a lot of different products.
Shh. [whispers indistinctly]
Like shampoo, conditioner,
pomade, hair wax, and beard oil.
-I love it. -That was good.
You know, without those kind of connections, it kind of sucks.
And, like, you need to think about that.
Like, not many people your age have what you have.
But it's also because I went to college, you know?
Fudge college, honestly. There's no need for it.
You know, I don't even know what's happening right now.
I don't know if I pushed Jack to this point
because I was raised so independently.
I'm one of six kids, and I had to be grown-up.
And I think with that, I have a very...
high set of expectations on myself.
And I think I've naturally just imparted those on my children.
Listen, this is supposed to be conversational.
You're taking it like--
I'm just telling you my experience. Just listen.
College is where they go to build machines, not humans.
You know, it's, like, oh, my gosh, did I create this?
-Okay. Take a break for a sec. -No.
-Talk. I'm all ears. -No, it just hurt my feelings--
I'm trying to, like, understand where you're coming from.
It's like--seems like you're giving attitude,
like, "I know everything, I understand everything."
You don't. You have me and Dad supporting you.
Like, when you can get to a point
where you're funding your own business all by yourself,
and I don't have to invest any money,
and your dad doesn't have to invest any money,
then you can be like, "I got this. I'm amazing."
You can't do that now. That's not how it works, Jack.
Okay. Well, I'm going inside.
***
-WHITNEY: Justin. -JUSTIN: Yeah?
WHITNEY: Come here.
What's up?
I'm gonna fill up your glass.
What's going on?
Are you okay?
No.
I just got off the phone with Will.
[bottle clatters]
-I need to talk to you. -What's up? Are you okay?
[sniffles]
Uh-oh.
Babe, what's going on?
[sniffles]
I'm sorry. I just don't know where to start.
-It's so much. -So, just tell me.
Start from what-- Like, what happened?
Like, what-- What did he say to you?
I was just trying to, like, plan something
to get together with him and... [sniffles]
And...
I just told him how I've been doing,
like, all this therapy and healing work,
and he shared with me that he was doing EDMR.
What's EDMR?
It's, like, a form of, like, memory recall
based on hand-eye coordination.
[sighs]
Like, you know how I always, like, tell you that I...
[sniffles] I don't remember details of my childhood?
-[sniffles] -Yeah.
[voice breaking] Will told me... [sobbing]
...that he...like, through his EDMR therapy, remembers...
[sobbing]
...that I was actually abused and I just don't remember it.
Oh, my gosh.
[sniffles]
A lot of my childhood I have blocked out,
and as I've been on this healing journey...
I have relied on other family members
to help fill in the pieces.
Because as much healing that I do, there are certain things
that you cannot remove from a child's brain.
[sobbing]
All of those memories that I have suppressed
are all flowing through me now.
And there's just so much pain.
I'm just feeling so much pain and so much anger.
And it just feels very overwhelming...
to take this all on right now.
[voice breaking] And so... I don't even know if I, like,
am comfortable saying it, but...
But when--when...
when Megan came to our house... -Uh-huh.
And we--we saged the house, every bathroom she went in,
she was like, "There's so many demons in your bathrooms.
I don't know what it is about with you and bathrooms," like...
Did Will say something that gave you some clarity on that?
So ----ed up. It's so ----ed up.
'Cause I'm still so scared... [sniffles]
...to say what I know and what I remember.
Babe, I'm so sorry.
[sniffles]
This is so ----ed up.
Like...like, but do you still love me?
Of course I do, babe.
[sniffles]
-Of course. -[Whitney sniffles]
***
As--As much as I often question if I--
if it would be easier to not know
and un-see it and un-remember it...
I don't think so. Like, I think that... [sniffles]
I think that you have to allow yourself
to go through it and acknowledge it... [sniffles]
and survive it.
There is a trauma hidden deep...
deep inside of me, and I know that.
I know you're obvious--obviously able to block out things
that were hurtful to you.
And I know that's a big reason why you're going through
what you're going through right now.
But you definitely can't take that on yourself.
***
Can you go grab me that stuff over there and hand it to me?
I mean that-- All of that I'm packing.
-What is this? -[laughter]
Listen, Jen said she wanted a lingerie party.
I do not want to let Jen down, ever.
-GEORGIA: It's true. -ANNABELLE: Yeah, exactly.
***
These are--
What are you doing? What is that even for?
We're going to plan a little party.
It's gonna be called
the Garbage Trash Whore Lingerie Party.
-That's the theme? -Yes.
Please don't. That's not good.
I'll just say GTW. [chants] GTW.
***
Are you sure you should be going on this trip?
Yeah, I mean, it's not the best timing,
but--but for me, what's really calling me to Arizona,
is, like, me just trying to...
heal and connect with my family
and move on from all of this past trauma.
After I got the phone call from Will,
I called my other half brother, Curtis.
And I told him I was supposed to be coming to Arizona
on a girls trip, but I didn't know
if I was strong enough to go. But he said, "No, come,
and you need to see me and your sister.
We got you. We're going to be here for you.
We'll help you get through this."
It feels right, and it feels good
to be, like, connecting with them.
***
-Lisa! -Are you ready? [laughs]
How many bags do you have?
-I have too many. -Oh, you do.
***
LISA: Okay, we got to go. We're going to miss our flight.
-Hey. Are you good? -Yeah, we're good.
I just have to go backwards.
WHITNEY: I invited Lisa to fly ahead with me,
because the thought of the five of us
flying together right now,
I think I'd have a full-on panic attack,
just trying to make sure that no one got in a fight,
specifically Lisa and Meredith.
[jet roars]
***
You can go in first.
Thank you, sir.
Well, I think the other girls,
their flight gets in in a little bit.
-LISA: Oh, really? -Yeah.
-Okay. -They're not too far behind us.
HEATHER: Do you guys know our gate?
-Oh, there we go. -JEN: Oh!
MEREDITH: Are we excited?
HEATHER: I love Arizona in the winter.
[laughs]
It's the redheaded stepchild of Utah.
It's just Utah, warmer, and with more white people,
if that's even humanly possible.
I wouldn't mind St. Tropez or Bali
or the Maldives, something like that.
Well, I don't think Jen can leave the country.
USA all the way! Yes!
***
HEATHER: Utah Part two. [chuckles]
***
-Oh, we're here. -Oh, my gosh.
-WHITNEY: Look at the gate. -LISA: Ooh, I like the entry.
-LISA: This is so pretty. -WHITNEY: Oh, they have
cocktails waiting for us. That's amazing.
-WHITNEY: Hello. -LISA: Hi!
[speaks indistinctly]
-I love it. -So happy to be here.
-I know. -Hi. I'm Becca!
-Becca, I'm Whitney. -WHITNEY: Hi, Becca.
-Hi, Whitney. -Hi! Lisa.
-Lisa? -So nice to meet you.
Ooh, I would love one. Thank you.
-Cheers. -Yay!
-Are you ready to see the house? -Yes.
Yes!
***
-Oh, wow. -So pretty.
WHITNEY: Is this one of Mary's rentals?
[laughter]
Walking into this house,
I feel like we've stepped foot into Mary Cosby's grand foyer.
[lively classical music playing]
It's almost like Mary is still with us.
[voice echoes] Women...
***
LISA: Okay. Oh, is that all by itself?
-It is. -Oh. Oh!
-WHITNEY: Wow. -LISA: Just like "Dynasty."
It literally looks like Barbie's dream house...
circa 1984.
The house is massively outdated,
but I do think it's a good party house.
So the rest of the house is that way.
I'm gonna let you guys enjoy it.
Thank you!
WHITNEY: This makes me kind of miss Mary.
[laughter]
Coming up...
I love you both,
and maybe it's at the point now where there can be
a conversation, and she can hear you.
Have you talked to her about it?
This is you and Meredith's fight.
***
WHITNEY: I'm going to get my swimsuit on.
We need some sun.
LISA: We never get to spend one-on-one time together.
It's been nice.
***
WHITNEY: Cheers, Lisa.
Oh, my gosh. [laughs]
I dare you to drink from that. Drink from it.
[laughs]
Here, let's cheers.
[laughing]
[laughs]
You're the good time girl.
Sorry, Heather. You've been replaced.
[laughs]
Well, thanks for inviting me to come in early with you.
Yeah, thanks for coming.
I think it's been good. Like, I feel like I'm getting
to understand you better, and I love that.
Well, and it helps me, too,
'cause I started this, like, path of healing.
I'll share with you. I, like-- I don't remember my childhood.
-You blocked it out? -I blocked it out.
And it goes-- it goes pretty deep.
I started doing this energy work,
and, like, I'm just starting to have memories.
I'm gonna be honest, it's, like, really hard for me...
to talk about it right now.
But it's just...Sorry.
It's okay.
My trauma is pretty intense for me right now,
and is just so much to process and so much to take in.
And right now, I'm just not feeling
like it's something I'm comfortable sharing.
When you say you block out things,
like, I don't necessarily block out things,
but I remember things where I'm like,
"That was stressful for me."
My sister and I were talking so much about, like,
childhood traumas.
My parents were little kids raising little kids.
I'm the middle child, but I assumed
everything for all of my sisters.
I, like, was the one to do, like,
even my little sister's hair,
like, every morning before school.
Like, my parents both worked.
And, like, I got three younger kids ready for school.
I've been an adult my whole life.
You know, when I started college, my dad was 39.
He had two other kids in college,
had already funded two missions,
and had three younger kids still in school.
We just knew what we had to do
to support our parents. Like, we just knew.
So we started to lean on each other.
And when anything goes wrong for any of us,
we are there for each other.
And, like, I'm very close with all of my siblings.
And so for me, like, like, you know, when I say,
like, "Oh, I love you like my sister,"
that's a big deal to me. -Yeah.
Because I'm so used to having girls around me,
but not everybody loves me the same way back,
and I'm realizing that.
Like, for example, like, I feel, like,
even with Meredith, I was definitely more invested
and in love with the idea of being, like,
Meredith's best friend, like her sister and it's...
It wasn't--it wasn't what I thought it was.
I was a great friend of Meredith for 10 years.
And it was, like, my one mistake
made her feel like, "You're a horrible person.
You haven't been my friend for 10 years."
And, like, that's bullsh--.
That is bullsh--.
I-I love you both.
And I-I think that you both share
very similar feelings on it
for different reasons and different causes.
And maybe it's at the point now where there can be
a conversation and she can hear you.
Have you talked to her about it?
***
Yes.
***
MEREDITH: Thank you.
Zack the snack. Thank you.
You guys, this is awesome!
Look at the view.
And how did you feel based on your conversation?
I think that this is you and Meredith's fight and battle.
-Yeah, but how did you-- -I don't want to get--
How I feel? I feel like...
Mm-hmm.
-Okay. -Wow.
-Yeah. -Whitney Rose did this.
[laughs] Whitney Rose done right.
Yeah, this is what I call a girls trip, okay?
Look at them out by the pool.
I've forgiven myself, and I can't control what she--
if she forgives me, but I do know, like,
if there's a path for resolution, like,
I'll be on it with her if she wants that.
But she has to want that. It's not up to me at this point.
But I can't wallow in self-hatred,
and I'm not gonna slit my wrists for anybody
at this stage in my life.
Like, I said sorry four times. If they can't forgive me,
there's nothing I can do about it.
-Um... -What's up?!
[all cheering]
-What is this? -Fire in the hole.
Meredith has been just picking flowers the whole afternoon.
You brought me a bouquet of flowers.
-A cock? -Sangria.
Sangria, and a half-drank bottle of Fireball.
I did not drink the Fireball.
This is Meredith's.
I missed you! [laughing]
***
Coming up...
I don't want to be put in the middle
of Meredith and Lisa's fight.
Meredith has talked to you about rumors about Lisa?
Mm-hmm.
***
-What's up?! -[cheering]
-We brought you champagne and... -This is so nice!
...a half-drank bottle of Fireball.
I did not drink the Fireball.
HEATHER: This is Meredith's.
I do wear glasses. I don't have 'em on right now.
But I can definitely see
that Meredith does not want to talk to me,
and I don't want to push myself on her.
I missed you! [laughing]
It's definitely very awkward between Lisa and Meredith.
I didn't expect them to have, like,
a warm welcome with each other,
but I expected something, like at least a hello.
It's okay. It's fine.
No.
HEATHER: We looked for Kit Kats for you and Sugar Babies.
All I could find were Hot Tamales and Milk Duds.
-They were out? -But they were out.
LISA: What do you mean, they're out?
-Wow! -Oh, my gosh!
We haven't seen the kitchen! This is awesome!
Yeah, so I'll give you the rundown.
We have a shaman coming,
and she recommended not drinking.
-Yeah. -Did you explain to her
a little bit about our background?
Listen. This is my third attempt
at doing some sort of healing for--for all of you.
If this one doesn't work, I'm retiring.
WOMAN: Who doesn't trust Jen? Raise your hand.
Okay.
Hey, we have to go.
Like, I-I went out of my way to put this together and...
but we don't have light. We only have sunlight.
Thank you for, like, indulging me on my journey to heal.
And I know that Jen needs us now more than ever.
I just wanted a girls trip getaway for Jen
to come together and to spend time
and just show you our love and support for you.
[voice breaking] I wasn't expecting this.
[whispers] Got you.
And I really need it now more than ever, so thank you.
It's times like these that you really see
who shows up for you.
[sniffles] It means a lot. Thank you, you guys.
These four women-- they've shown up for me,
and I'm very, very grateful.
This is a beautiful home. I'm thrilled to be here.
I'm thrilled to be here with all of you.
-Yeah. -I'm glad everybody came.
-MEREDITH: Thank you, Whitney. -Thank you so much.
But with that said, I pre-selected the rooms.
I just wanted to avoid the headache and all of the drama.
We'll just set it up as you, me, Heather.
-Heather, Mer? -Heather, Mer, and Jen.
There's only two things that I need to make sure happen.
Meredith's on one end of the house,
and Lisa's on the other end of the house.
We decided to give you the master.
Oh, my gosh. [squealing]
HEATHER: She keeps getting the best room every time!
Ever since the arrest, all I know
is I keep getting the master bedroom.
Wait till you see the bathroom. We're all gonna be getting ready
in here, high school style. -Oh, what?
-Are you ready? -You guys...
No, this is literally Barbie dream shower.
I mean, maybe this is one area that's working out for me.
Heather Gay, this is your room.
Your gift is there.
-Aw. -HEATHER: Can I open it?
-Bring it to Meredith's room. -Okay.
I hate--I never get presents.
And yours is indoor/outdoor concept.
-You have a patio. -MEREDITH: I love it.
HEATHER: So can we open my gift?
Yeah, open it.
-Oh! -What?!
LISA: What is it?
"Be you, stay wild." I love this!
-These are so cute, Whitney. -Yeah, matching pajamas
with your little initials and some slippers.
-How cute. -Look at that! I love it.
Unpack. Get dressed.
You can wear, like, a Boho chic dress, flowy dress.
Just something you can sit comfortably in.
Can I wear an oversize man's T-shirt and bobby socks?
-Sure. Sure. -Okay. Let's go.
-Yes. -[laughing]
***
The energy when I walked in was weird,
and I was surprised by Jen's reaction.
She got really emotional
when you said what the trip was for.
Well, I mean it. I really hope that we can all, like,
come together for her now. -Yeah.
What is Lisa's expectations?
Was she nervous about seeing Meredith?
She's not nervous, no.
She should be nervous. Why is she not nervous?
WHITNEY: Well, she's being really vulnerable,
and that's, I think, a good space to start.
HEATHER: No, for sure.
I just feel, like, icky, 'cause...
I don't want to be put in the middle
of Meredith and Lisa's fight.
You have Meredith, who's coming to me with rumors.
Meredith has talked to you about rumors about Lisa?
Mm-hmm.
I'm trying not to smile.
[laughter]
Why does that make you wanna smile? You didn't know?
Because I can't believe that Meredith would ever...
Has she not shared anything with you?
HEATHER: Nothing.
Oh, she fully came over to my house
and brought up rumors about Lisa having--
-About what? -Um, like, affairs.
She only alluded to affairs and then--
-Multiple? -Yeah, but what Meredith
has heard, out of Meredith's own mouth,
that Lisa has performed sexual favors
for the advancement... -[snickers]
-Vida Tequila? -Yeah.
So that people would take it, but...
-Stop, stop, stop, stop. -I know. I know.
And then she'd be like, "Isn't that absurd?"
Who--who was she servicing? Vendors?
Bartenders? Bar owners?
I know it sounds absurd, Heather.
-State liquor store officials? -However...
Listen, my point now is now that I've heard Lisa out,
and I feel like I've gotten to know her,
I feel bad, 'cause I fully, like, participated.
Because I've heard the same rumors about her, too.
Part of me just wanted to, like, give her a heads up
or, like, ask her about it. I don't know.
I don't know what to do. Like, what do you do?
Need I remind you that we are on a girls trip for Jen?
And this is not the time to give Lisa
a heads up about horrible rumors
that Whitney may have heard.
Hell, no. Don't say a word.
I think our goal should be just to celebrate Jen,
and we'll deal with that after this.
***
Coming up...
***
-Hi. -WHITNEY: Kisses and hugs.
Nice to meet you in person.
You look beautiful. And with the slippers? [laughs]
I'm really excited to meet with the shaman
because I feel like now more than ever,
I need to release this pain and this heaviness.
And who better to do it with
than this group of girls who are equally as ----ed up?
Let's heal.
So you wanna go ahead and start?
-We have one more. -One more.
-Una más. -WHITNEY: I want to get going.
-Okay, let's go. -No, let's start.
I'm saying, she'll join when she can.
Meredith is late once again
to one of my healing ceremonies.
But this time, I'm starting without her.
And there's a saying amongst healers
and the universe--
"Those who need the most healing avoid healing."
***
[cellphone rings]
-[cellphone chimes] -Hi, honey. How are you?
-Hey. Good. How are you? -I'm good.
Have you seen Lisa yet?
Well, I'm in a house with four other people, so, um, yeah.
Have you gone over where all the exit doors are?
What's on the docket?
We have a shaman coming. I'm not sure if that's, like,
the right thing for me right now.
I've worked with a shaman before,
and it was an incredible experience,
but really intense.
And my current dynamic with Lisa
definitely plays a big part in my hesitation
to run outside.
You know, you're opening your energy,
and she's shown me that she's someone
I should be protecting my energy from.
All right, ladies, I am so excited
to be guiding you in the ceremony tonight.
I'm going to come around and pass out the cacao elixir.
Cacao is a deep heart opening medicine.
I thought it would taste different.
-[laughter] -[coughs]
WHITNEY: It's not hot cocoa. [laughs]
I would like to release the flavor in my mouth.
[laughter]
Is it weird that I like it?
Yes.
I love chocolate, so why wouldn't I love cacao?
It's earthy.
I'm boring. I've never done a drug in my life.
I've never even smoked weed. I barely take Advil.
Like, I had my augmentation with nothing.
I, like, went and got a Diet Coke after.
What we're going to do is set an intention to release.
It can be something very small. It can be something very big.
Once we let go of that pain, we create all this space
to call in whatever we truly want,
literally our life's desires.
We'll start with Whitney.
Go ahead and share what it is you're releasing.
I'm letting go of past trauma, past hurt.
KSENIYA: And what are you calling in?
I'm calling in Oneness.
We'll seal that intention for Whitney.
I am releasing shame of not making my family proud,
and I want to call in love and understanding.
***
I'm releasing the fear of going to trial in 30 days.
[voice breaking] I'm calling in...
[sniffles] my innocence
and to just show my family that I love them
every single second of every day.
***
KSENIYA: Lisa?
I-I suck at this.
I'm releasing hurt... [voice breaking] and sadness.
And I'm calling in love, support...and kindness.
***
Go ahead and close your eyes
and hold that cacao to your heart.
As the cacao starts working through our system,
we're gonna go ahead and start with the breath.
So I will tell you a little bit about the breath work.
There can be...Hello.
-Hello. -Welcome.
-Hi. -Hi.
***
Go ahead and have a seat.
***
When you arrive late, you don't get to pick where you sit,
and now Meredith has to sit next to Lisa.
For the lady that joined us a little bit late,
did you have something that you want to release
that you want to share with the group?
Um...
It could be a specific person, situation, relationship,
anything.
I'm--I'm not ready to share right now.
KSENIYA: Okay. Okay. No problem.
***
All right, ladies, go ahead
and use the cushion that you're sitting on.
Flip it and go ahead and lie down.
We're all gonna start the breath together.
[inhaling and exhaling deeply]
Good, remembering what it is you're releasing,
what it is you're letting go of.
[exhales deeply]
You are not what happened to you.
That doesn't define you.
Let the tears come.
You don't have to hold it back.
I'm right here with you. I know it's scary.
My eyes are closed, and I'm just seeing
the people that I love most in my life.
Coach is so strong.
He's, like, my biggest cheerleader,
but it's hard for him.
Just like I'm sure-- I know it's hard for my boys.
-[exhales deeply] -Good.
Omar wondering if I'm gonna be at his football games
or Rieffy wondering if I'm going to be
at his white coat ceremony in medical school.
It's just stuff we don't talk about, but...
that's just the reality of my-- of the situation right now.
KSENIYA: You're so worthy of love,
unwinding yourself from all those stories.
They're not yours to carry.
It's okay. Let it come up for release.
-[exhales deeply] -Good.
What I was expecting to release
was the hurt and sadness I felt with my friends.
KSENIYA: Lots coming up for you over here.
What I ended up releasing was something totally different.
It wasn't what I was expecting.
Abandonment.
KSENIYA: Big releases coming for you.
Big shifts coming for you.
You're ready to let it go. I know you are. I feel it.
The only memory that kept coming to my mind
was me as a little girl.
We were in this play area, and there was a slide,
and I kept going up and down the slide, and my dad said,
"Last time. We're done. We're leaving."
And I waited till they walked ahead of me,
and then I turned around and went right back to the slide.
After about 20 times going down the slide with these other kids,
I went up to the desk and told the lady,
like, "Hey, I don't know where my mom and dad are."
That's the only thought that kept going through my head
is I'm, like, "Oh, my God, you didn't even notice I was gone."
Beautiful, ladies.
Really good releases.
Stay with it.
Give yourself this gift.
As I'm going through all of this,
the truth is, I'm being brought to where I was last year.
Dealing with my father, dealing with my nephew...
I have a nephew with mental health issues.
...and the treatment I received over it
and the pain.
We're building up for a big release here, ladies, okay?
So build up that breath.
Okay, everything we've been holding in,
we're about to let it go with a big yell.
I did not pack a Costco-size box of Kleenex
'cause I did not anticipate this many tears.
This is night one.
KSENIYA: On the count of three,
one, two, three. Out with a yell.
[all yelling]
[laughter]
Good. Powerful work, everyone.
So I'm gonna go ahead and give a round of applause
to all of you for being so brave.
The whole point of this experience with the shaman
is to be vulnerable and to be open
and to work through something hard.
What I got from that experience
is that I'm gonna need my friends to lean on
and help me get through this. I can't do this alone.
KSENIYA: How are we feeling?
My body was, like, numb and tingly.
And I fed off of, like-- I could feel everyone's energy,
and it helped push me a little bit farther to release more.
And how about you, love? What was that like for you?
It was intense,
and it's not my first time working with a shaman.
And so I apologize to all of you
for not getting here in a timely fashion.
But I had some anxiety about it, to be quite honest.
It stems from me not feeling very safe.
Do you feel that way, like, right now?
Like, after this whole experience,
do you feel any safer?
I'm very much triggered by our last trip
and--and having my father's death weaponized against me.
And now I'm here with the same group
a few days after the anniversary of losing him,
and it's a lot for me.
Well, I used to feel like I was a safe space for you,
And I'm sorry. -You are not a safe space, Lisa.
I know. I said--I said I...
Never mind. I won't say another...word.
***
Bye.
***
I'm not gonna lie.
***
What did Lisa say to you first?
She said she used to think she was a safe space for me,
and I said, "You are not a safe space."
I'm not gonna lie.
[scoffs]
***
I'm gonna go grab Lisa. I'm just gonna see
if I can convince her to come back.
My legs are asleep.
[laughter]
Meredith, I'm here to work through things with you
and give you support for whatever you need to,
'cause I know how painful and hurtful it is.
Hey, are you okay?
-No, it's okay, listen. -Yeah.
No, no, I just had to-- I needed a break.
I know. I know. But now you're coming back.
Right now I know you ladies
are probably starving, so maybe at dinnertime,
this could be a lovely segue
to keep these conversations flowing.
-You know what I mean? -Yeah, I know.
-I'm fine sitting in it. -I know. I know.
-I needed to get up. -I'm glad you did
in that moment, 'cause it started to turn.
HEATHER: Come on. They're already at dinner. Let's go.
***
Ooh, wow. Thank you.
This is, like, a Caprese salad, and then we have
the charcuterie board over there.
Ooh, I am starving.
I don't know about you, but emotional breathing
takes a lot out of me. [chuckles]
Thanks for putting that together, Whitney.
-That was awesome. -Thank you.
Yeah, thank you for participating.
-You're welcome. -Feels good to come together.
What did everybody set as their thing to release?
HEATHER: You want to start?
Um, I wanted to be able to release
the fear of going to trial in a month.
Mm-hmm.
The other day, I had, like, a little bit
of a breakdown because, you know,
I get new information, right?
From the attorneys saying,
"Oh, there's a new discovery."
And I got in the car.
It was, like, 3 in the morning,
and I drove down to my dad's grave.
MEREDITH: Aw.
[sobs] It just... [sniffles]
So, Coach is, like, "Um, hello, where are you?"
-And then I blocked him. -[laughter]
He did nothing wrong,
but, you know, I was just having a moment.
Every time the phone rings, I don't know what I'm gonna hear
on the other end of the phone.
What is the new accusation?
What is the new motion that needs to be filed?
I am on edge 100% of the time.
I think we all kind of saw at Coach Shah's party
how much love... -LISA: It was amazing.
...and support.
That felt really good to me as your friend
to see, you know, the family show up, celebrate Sharrieff,
celebrate you.
I've been on this healing journey
for, honestly, probably a year now.
[sighs] A lot of--I have...
My childhood is blocked from, like, 9 to 17.
And as I'm doing all this work,
like, memories are coming up, and...
I was in a very abusive situation.
But I, like, stuffed it so deep that I blocked all memory of it.
***
Physically abusive?
You?
Yeah.
***
Next time on "The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City"...
All aboard the Jen Shah Express!
[cheering]
[Spanish guitar riff]
Are we supposed to clap
or just, like, respect and be quiet?
-I think just respect. -Okay.
[whinnies]
Are you just gonna move on with Lisa?
I'm not willing to open myself up
to somebody who's just gonna stab me in the heart.
Stop being a condescending, superior bitch.
I have talked with Meredith about rumors about you.
Does this feel ----ing good? Like, ----ing hurt me more.
I didn't know. I didn't know.
I have told you everything, Heather.
We were at the Jazz game with Angie, and she goes,
"That's who Lisa sleeps with for the Jazz tickets."
-Wait, what? -Well, guess what?
I didn't hear that ----ing nugget!
You are lying right now.
[bleep] you for calling me a ----ing liar!
[bleep] you!