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Previously on "The Real
Housewives of Salt Lake City"...
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Are we supposed to clap or just,
like, respect and be quiet?
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-I think just respect.
-Okay.
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[whinnies]
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All aboard the Jen Shah Express!
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[cheering]
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I think booze and bike rides is
what this group needs right now.
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[cheering]
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[sobbing] Will told me...
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that I was actually abused,
and I just don't remember it.
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My siblings, Curtis and Kelli--
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they're on a similar journey,
and we're all coming together,
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and I get to see
my brother Curtis
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that I haven't seen in years.
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[voice breaking]
I wasn't expecting this.
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And I really need it now
more than ever, so thank you.
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Mm-hmm. Affairs.
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It's rumored that one of your...
[bleep]
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that has the Jazz tickets...
-I don't know who you're--
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...that you've been involved
with them.
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-Are you crazy?!
-No.
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[sobbing]
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Angie told us John Barlow's
friend had those tickets.
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I never heard it.
You don't think I would love
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that information on her?
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-You are lying right now.
-Tell me how!
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WHITNEY: Angie told us,
and you were there.
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-HEATHER: I did not hear it.
-WHITNEY: You were there.
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[bleep] you for calling me
a ----ing liar!
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-You called mea liar.
-Goddamn you.
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Heather.
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[bleep] you!
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Hey, [bleep] me, please.
I'd love to be ----ed.
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Heather, what happened?
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-What is going on?
-She's lying.
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Tonight was supposed to be
hot girls in lingerie,
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gnawing away at hunks of meat,
and then Whitney decided
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to unload all of these rumors
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about Lisa giving blowies
for basketball seats,
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and now she's dragged me
into it,
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and I'm a liar in lingerie
without a steak to be found.
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[sizzling]
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Whitney said that I had heard
this nugget
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about Lisa ----ing some guy
for courtside Jazz tickets.
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She's drunk, and she doesn't
know what she's saying.
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[sobbing] Heather didn't even
know what I was going through
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because I just sit there
and listen to her sh--.
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She never took time to even
ask me how I was doing.
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It goes straight to my abuse.
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Like, everyone uses me
for what they want.
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I'm starting to realize now
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that because of the abuse
that I suffered as a kid,
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I never learned how
to stand up for myself
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or how to set boundaries
with people.
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And now that I am able
to hold a boundary,
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other people struggle with it
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because they're seeing me
show up in a different way
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that they weren't expecting.
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I'm just done needing
everyone else's sh--.
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I will not own sh--
that never happened.
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I'm really hurt by Heather.
She's the person
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who knows me the best,
who I'm closest to,
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who'd I'd expect to be there
for me in my darkest hour.
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I'm starting to realize that
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maybe Heather doesn't give
a [bleep] about me.
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I am done! I am not a pawn!
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Okay, let's--let's not--
let's not...
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-I'm so mad.
-...get violent with the tongs.
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-Sorry.
-[laughs]
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I've never fought with Whitney
like this ever.
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We have had big disagreements,
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but she's never looked at me
and called me a liar ever.
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And that's, like,
a pretty big accusation
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about a pretty stupid thing.
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Don't call me a liar ever.
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-You called me a liar first.
-I never did.
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-Look at me. Look at me.
-We talked about it, babe.
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You are too drunk right now
to be cognizant
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of what's happening.
-Don't do that.
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-Don't do that.
-You better be real.
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And if you need more validity,
find some facts.
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The facts is Angie.
Let's call Angie,
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because Angie told you and I.
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I don't care who Lisa's ----ed.
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I don't care
who Meredith's ----ed.
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I don't care who you ----ed,
who Jen's ----ed.
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I don't care!
I want to come together
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and support our friend
who's facing--
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I'm sorry--50 years in prison.
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And guess what this
entire evening has become about?
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You and you and Lisa.
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And that is not the purpose
of this trip.
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So get focused and realize
what this is all about.
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On ----ing what?!
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-Because Angie said--
-If I was loaded,
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then don't hold me
----ing accountable!
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-We walked up--
-[bleep] you!
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I'm not doing that!
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You just lost me
for ----ing ever!
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You lost me forever,
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and that was the biggest
----ing mistake of your life.
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Okay, you guys, you guys.
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You did not lose me forever,
Heather.
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No, youlost me,bitch.
You lost me.
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Bitch, don't come at me.
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Oh, my God.
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I am already barely forging
a foundation with Lisa,
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and the last thing I wanna do
is just lie,
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and your path to truth
and friendship with Lisa
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is not mine,
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certainly not if it requires me
to lie or back up bullsh--.
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[laughs]
It's 'cause it pushes them up.
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Because they're, like,
at eye level.
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***
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Thanks for being my friend
tonight.
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I appreciate, like,
the progress we've made...
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-I do, too.
-...and, like, where we are.
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You don't have to thank me
for being your friend.
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I wanna be your friend.
I'll show up as your friend.
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Thank you.
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And I'm telling you as a friend,
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I have never had a conversation
with any single person here
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about anything
about your marriage
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or your extramarital affairs.
-Thank you. Thank you.
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-I'm flying to New York
tomorrow night on the red eye.
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Yeah, which is why we don't
need to talk about this anymore.
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-Go. Yeah.
-She's leaving for New York...
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-Mm-hmm.
-...to prepare for the trial
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of her goddamn life.
-For your life.
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LISA: I'm going to bed.
Love you. Love you.
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I'm gonna sleep.
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And let me just sleep.
I need to call John.
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***
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Thanks for being here for me.
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***
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JEN: I have brought
a professional in.
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[siren whoops]
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[amplified voice] Next on stage!
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[singsongy] Crystal Pussy!
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Hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo!
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This feels wrong. I mean,
does anybody else feel wrong?
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All right, ladies!
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No! She's an instructor.
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Oh. How rude of me to assume
she was gonna perform.
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What'd you do,
fly her in from Atlantic City?
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The current Shah Squad--you
gotta wear a lot of hats, okay?
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My makeup artist is also
Crystal Pussy.
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She is also
a twerking instructor.
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I signed up
for twerking classes.
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But turn around.
What is this outfit?
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***
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-Goddamn.
-Wow.
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I want y'all to twerk
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like you need to make
some money to pay your rent.
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Hello, we're on this
healing trip for me, I thought.
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So you know what? Let me bring
the healing Crystal Pussy
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to the party.
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Okay, you guys can all go,
like, down here.
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JEN: Pay your rent.
You wanna go home?
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You wanna have power?
You wanna have light?
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You wanna have a roof
over your head?
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-Okay, ready?
-[chanting] Pay that rent.
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Pay that rent, pay that rent,
pay that rent, pay that rent.
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-[snoring loudly]
-JEN: What?
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[chanting] Okay, paying that
rent, you're paying that rent.
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-Yes!
-Here we go.
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You live so expensive.
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[laughs]
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I don't think I was built
to twerk.
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-No, she can twerk everywhere.
-[laughs]
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I can squeeze one butt cheek.
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It is definitely not
in my wheelhouse.
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[laughs]
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I will not be making rent
this month,
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and I'm okay with it.
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-One, two, three.
-Two, three.
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[laughs]
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Good night. Love y'all.
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Coming up...
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Okay.
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[sighs]
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***
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What in the world? [laughs]
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***
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That's where...
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***
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"Heather, no words needed here.
Bad Weather, no matter what.
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XOXO, Whitney."
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***
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I've come to speak
with the emperor.
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Oh.
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[laughter]
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-Those are cute pajammies.
-Thank you.
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They look much warmer
and tropical...
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...than the weather
is reflecting?
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Yeah, I mean, why is it raining
in the desert?
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-Did we bring the rain?
-I think our behavior did.
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[groans]
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[laughs]
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-Hey.
-Hey.
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Good morning.
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It's raining.
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You look comfy and cozy.
Wait. Do we have coffee?
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***
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I woke up to
a very visual representation
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of how Whitney feels about our
friendship right now. [laughs]
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She was very upset last night.
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She ripped up, um,
our friendship card.
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In my room,
when I woke up this morning,
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it was shredded.
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Actually, I know how I can
get her back.
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***
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She left it for me to find,
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and I'm just, like,
what the [bleep]?
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I didn't realize it
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'cause I just walked
through it last night.
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I fell asleep in a pile
of Milk Duds and...
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[laughs]
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That was how that night ended.
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JEN: How are you doing
this morning?
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How I feel?
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You think you can have
a talk with Heather today?
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Yeah, but I'm just...
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You're hurt.
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Feel completely betrayed.
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I think there's a lot
of things going on.
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I mean, obviously, she's dealing
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with her own emotional stuff
right now.
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I love her.
I would never betray her.
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I would never even speak ill
of her.
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WHITNEY:
I gotta go get ready...
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-JEN: Okay.
-...to see my brother.
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Is your sister gonna be there?
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I hope so.
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Are you okay to go see him?
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I don't know.
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There are two people
in this world
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that understand and know what
I'm going through right now,
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and that's my half-brother
and sister, Curtis and Kelli.
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Curtis really encouraged me
to push through
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and come on this trip,
so I need to see them.
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...see you.
Will you keep me posted?
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Yeah, I'm gonna get there
so I can come back...
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-Okay. Okay.
-...before you go.
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Let me know when you leave
and stuff.
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Okay, I will.
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Oh, I need to pack this.
253
00:11:51,294 --> 00:11:54,255
This reprieve for a couple days,
it's done now.
254
00:11:54,297 --> 00:11:57,175
Now it's back to reality.
Now I have to
255
00:11:57,217 --> 00:12:00,929
get back and immersed
into trial preparation.
256
00:12:00,970 --> 00:12:03,223
I just wanted a minute,
a few days,
257
00:12:03,264 --> 00:12:05,600
to just pretend
this was not happening.
258
00:12:05,642 --> 00:12:09,104
It gives me anxiety
because of what I know
259
00:12:09,145 --> 00:12:11,439
the consequences are
and what this means
260
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for me and my family.
261
00:12:14,359 --> 00:12:17,654
***
262
00:12:17,696 --> 00:12:20,281
This is what's blowing my mind.
263
00:12:20,323 --> 00:12:23,868
This whole trip was supposed
to be about Jen.
264
00:12:23,910 --> 00:12:25,537
I know.
265
00:12:25,578 --> 00:12:27,789
This whole trip was supposed
to be fun,
266
00:12:27,831 --> 00:12:30,125
and instead, Whitney's sobbing.
267
00:12:30,166 --> 00:12:32,293
I recognize somehow
that this was all, like,
268
00:12:32,335 --> 00:12:35,213
triggering back
to her abuse side of things.
269
00:12:35,255 --> 00:12:37,882
I didn't get mad at her.
I was hugging her
270
00:12:37,924 --> 00:12:42,387
because I know she is suffering
so deeply inside right now
271
00:12:42,429 --> 00:12:45,348
trying to put
these pieces together.
272
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***
273
00:12:49,019 --> 00:12:50,645
-Hello.
-DRIVER: Good morning.
274
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WHITNEY: Good morning.
275
00:12:51,980 --> 00:12:57,110
***
276
00:12:57,152 --> 00:13:01,823
WHITNEY: This entire process
is very intense for me.
277
00:13:01,865 --> 00:13:05,660
I'm hopeful that
I can find some relief
278
00:13:05,702 --> 00:13:09,539
and some comfort in meeting
with Curtis and Kelli
279
00:13:09,581 --> 00:13:13,001
and continue to connect the dots
that I...
280
00:13:13,043 --> 00:13:17,297
have forgotten
about my childhood.
281
00:13:17,339 --> 00:13:20,508
***
282
00:13:20,550 --> 00:13:23,553
[thunderclaps]
283
00:13:23,595 --> 00:13:31,770
***
284
00:13:31,811 --> 00:13:34,356
[doorbell rings]
285
00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:36,649
Whit!
286
00:13:36,691 --> 00:13:39,819
What's up? Oh, my God.
287
00:13:39,861 --> 00:13:42,197
Welcome.
288
00:13:42,238 --> 00:13:44,699
-How are you?
-Good. Been good.
289
00:13:44,741 --> 00:13:46,451
Come on in.
290
00:13:46,493 --> 00:13:48,578
You're looking good.
Thank you. You, too.
291
00:13:48,620 --> 00:13:49,913
-Hey.
-Hi, Tanya.
292
00:13:49,954 --> 00:13:52,582
-Nice to see you.
-I haven't seen you in so long.
293
00:13:52,624 --> 00:13:55,293
-Your house is amazing.
-Thank you.
294
00:13:55,335 --> 00:13:56,711
I wish I was staying
at this house.
295
00:13:56,753 --> 00:13:58,129
Whitney!
296
00:13:58,171 --> 00:14:00,674
-Uh-oh.
-Oh! My sissy!
297
00:14:00,715 --> 00:14:04,344
***
298
00:14:04,386 --> 00:14:06,304
WHITNEY: Good to see you.
299
00:14:06,346 --> 00:14:08,473
Oh, Whit.
300
00:14:08,515 --> 00:14:12,686
***
301
00:14:12,727 --> 00:14:14,938
Curtis and Kelli and I
share the same father.
302
00:14:14,979 --> 00:14:16,523
We have different mothers.
303
00:14:16,564 --> 00:14:19,025
I worry about you not having us
with you, you know?
304
00:14:19,067 --> 00:14:21,027
Oh, that's why I'm here.
305
00:14:21,069 --> 00:14:23,405
I wasn't extremely close to them
growing up
306
00:14:23,446 --> 00:14:25,490
because when my dad
divorced their mom
307
00:14:25,532 --> 00:14:29,452
and married my mom
and had me and my sister,
308
00:14:29,494 --> 00:14:33,373
he really just focused his time
on...our family.
309
00:14:33,415 --> 00:14:35,500
Like, I saw Curtis and Kelli
310
00:14:35,542 --> 00:14:37,252
maybe a handful of times
throughout my childhood.
311
00:14:37,293 --> 00:14:39,295
I'm just so grateful that
312
00:14:39,337 --> 00:14:41,506
they're willing
to show up for me now,
313
00:14:41,548 --> 00:14:44,217
and I can have them
a part of my life now.
314
00:14:44,259 --> 00:14:45,677
I remember when you were born.
315
00:14:45,719 --> 00:14:48,430
I got a phone call saying,
"You have a little sister.
316
00:14:48,471 --> 00:14:49,931
Her name's Whitney,"
and I was like, "Who is this?"
317
00:14:49,973 --> 00:14:51,516
-You know?
-[laughs]
318
00:14:51,558 --> 00:14:53,518
Justin and I talk about that
a lot. I'm like,
319
00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:54,978
"I have an older sister..."
-Yeah.
320
00:14:55,020 --> 00:14:56,479
-"...that you've never met."
-Yeah.
321
00:14:56,521 --> 00:14:57,981
-You never met Justin?
-Unh-unh.
322
00:14:58,023 --> 00:14:59,274
-No.
-Justin's cool.
323
00:14:59,315 --> 00:15:02,610
I'm on, like,
this massive healing journey.
324
00:15:04,779 --> 00:15:07,449
I just have this gaping wound...
325
00:15:07,490 --> 00:15:10,952
-Yeah.
-...that I need to close,
326
00:15:10,994 --> 00:15:14,289
and I just feel like you both
are the missing link to that.
327
00:15:14,330 --> 00:15:17,334
I hate that we didn't have
a connection growing up.
328
00:15:17,375 --> 00:15:19,210
-Oh, we did. We did.
-We're connected.
329
00:15:19,252 --> 00:15:22,130
I've always felt like
we're a lot alike.
330
00:15:23,506 --> 00:15:26,176
When I went to Utah,
before I went on the mission,
331
00:15:26,217 --> 00:15:27,886
I spent some time
with you there.
332
00:15:27,927 --> 00:15:30,013
You did?
333
00:15:30,055 --> 00:15:31,473
Yeah, you probably don't
remember that, but I do.
334
00:15:31,514 --> 00:15:32,766
-I was in college.
-I can feel--
335
00:15:32,807 --> 00:15:34,309
I feel things,
so when you were saying that,
336
00:15:34,351 --> 00:15:37,062
like, I have--
I know you were around.
337
00:15:37,103 --> 00:15:38,688
I know I saw you.
338
00:15:38,730 --> 00:15:42,067
And...you know,
and I talk to Will a lot
339
00:15:42,108 --> 00:15:44,652
about different memories
that I have.
340
00:15:44,694 --> 00:15:46,488
CURTIS: Yeah.
341
00:15:46,529 --> 00:15:48,448
Um, and just through
this process,
342
00:15:48,490 --> 00:15:53,620
I realized I was just being
manipulated and used and abused.
343
00:15:53,661 --> 00:15:55,622
***
344
00:15:55,663 --> 00:15:59,668
Like, I just realized
even though our situations
345
00:15:59,709 --> 00:16:01,670
are probably different,
the feeling's the same.
346
00:16:03,546 --> 00:16:06,758
While Curtis, Kelli,
and I's traumas
347
00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:08,134
are all different,
348
00:16:08,176 --> 00:16:10,220
we share the same feeling
of being let down
349
00:16:10,261 --> 00:16:13,056
by this person that we all knew
350
00:16:13,098 --> 00:16:19,813
and...we should have
been able to trust.
351
00:16:19,854 --> 00:16:23,858
I think for me, I realized early
that hurt people
352
00:16:23,900 --> 00:16:25,527
hurt other people.
-Yeah.
353
00:16:25,568 --> 00:16:28,530
And so if somebody
is hurting me, like,
354
00:16:28,571 --> 00:16:30,657
I automatically think
you must be hurting.
355
00:16:30,699 --> 00:16:32,701
There--There's two sides
of the coin, right,
356
00:16:32,742 --> 00:16:35,912
and we get to choose which side
we look at.
357
00:16:35,954 --> 00:16:37,247
I can't erase the negative.
358
00:16:37,288 --> 00:16:39,833
I can just erase the way
I-I can feel about it.
359
00:16:39,874 --> 00:16:42,377
There's a lot of good that came
from that relationship,
360
00:16:42,419 --> 00:16:45,547
and you have to remember that.
361
00:16:45,588 --> 00:16:49,009
And I think every time
you find that gratitude,
362
00:16:49,050 --> 00:16:52,470
at least in my life, it gets me
out in front of the negative.
363
00:16:52,512 --> 00:16:53,888
Yeah.
364
00:16:53,930 --> 00:16:59,227
And I'm telling you, it'll never
make sense to you, okay?
365
00:16:59,269 --> 00:17:00,812
That's what you need
to understand.
366
00:17:00,854 --> 00:17:02,814
It will never make sense.
There's never gonna be a moment
367
00:17:02,856 --> 00:17:04,774
where you're like, "Okay,
I'm free. I'm successful.
368
00:17:04,816 --> 00:17:06,317
I've got it.
Everything is good."
369
00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,403
No, because
it's not your wound to heal,
370
00:17:08,445 --> 00:17:09,904
and it may never happen.
371
00:17:09,946 --> 00:17:12,615
Do you want it to just disappear
and never feel it?
372
00:17:12,657 --> 00:17:14,951
'Cause I don't--
it hasn't for me yet.
373
00:17:14,993 --> 00:17:17,203
It never will, ever.
374
00:17:17,245 --> 00:17:21,332
No I just needed to see you both
and hear you say
375
00:17:21,374 --> 00:17:23,209
that it's okay that I let it go.
376
00:17:23,251 --> 00:17:24,961
Yeah, no, move on.
377
00:17:25,003 --> 00:17:28,548
Everybody's got something
that they have to deal with.
378
00:17:28,590 --> 00:17:29,841
Mm-hmm.
379
00:17:29,883 --> 00:17:32,260
So deal with it,
but give it a time and a place.
380
00:17:32,302 --> 00:17:33,887
You have to, Whitney.
381
00:17:33,928 --> 00:17:36,973
I don't know what the next steps
are to continue to heal
382
00:17:37,015 --> 00:17:41,061
and move on, but I do know
that I'm gonna let go,
383
00:17:41,102 --> 00:17:43,897
because this is no longer
serving me,
384
00:17:43,938 --> 00:17:48,151
and I know that Curtis and Kelli
are going to be instrumental
385
00:17:48,193 --> 00:17:50,445
in helping me get through that.
386
00:17:50,487 --> 00:17:52,280
I'm super proud of you, Whitney.
387
00:17:52,322 --> 00:17:53,907
-Thank you, Curtis.
-I'm proud of you, too.
388
00:17:53,948 --> 00:17:55,950
[laughs]
389
00:17:55,992 --> 00:17:59,329
***
390
00:17:59,371 --> 00:18:01,373
Coming up...
391
00:18:01,414 --> 00:18:04,250
It is hard to sit there
and listen to lies,
392
00:18:04,292 --> 00:18:06,086
and you can't talk.
393
00:18:06,127 --> 00:18:07,671
What is the expression they
want you to have? Just stoic?
394
00:18:07,712 --> 00:18:09,506
-Blank, probably, right?
-Blank?
395
00:18:09,547 --> 00:18:12,258
Yeah. My lead trial attorney
said, "You know, Jen,
396
00:18:22,060 --> 00:18:28,817
***
397
00:18:33,113 --> 00:18:35,448
Hi, Heather. Mmm.
398
00:18:35,490 --> 00:18:38,535
Hi. Good morning...ish.
399
00:18:38,576 --> 00:18:42,330
I've got eggs, bacon,
hash browns.
400
00:18:42,372 --> 00:18:44,833
So Jen's leaving soon.
401
00:18:44,874 --> 00:18:46,376
HEATHER: Well, I'm glad we got
a fun girls trip for her.
402
00:18:46,418 --> 00:18:49,295
Well, I hope she thinks
it was fun.
403
00:18:49,337 --> 00:18:50,547
It wasn't fun.
404
00:18:50,588 --> 00:18:54,217
[laughs]
There's nothing fun about it.
405
00:18:54,259 --> 00:18:56,011
What time did you end up
going to bed?
406
00:18:56,052 --> 00:18:57,429
I stayed up till, like, 3.
407
00:18:59,681 --> 00:19:00,724
-Good morning.
-Good morning.
408
00:19:04,310 --> 00:19:06,604
***
409
00:19:06,646 --> 00:19:08,732
I still feel awkward
about everything.
410
00:19:08,773 --> 00:19:11,359
I feel like I'm getting
to a better place with Meredith,
411
00:19:11,401 --> 00:19:13,611
But I still don't know
what her role was
412
00:19:13,653 --> 00:19:15,405
in all of these rumors.
413
00:19:15,447 --> 00:19:17,365
I was really upset last night.
I called John.
414
00:19:17,407 --> 00:19:19,034
He helped calm me down.
415
00:19:19,075 --> 00:19:20,744
After having a burrito
and some Kit Kats,
416
00:19:20,785 --> 00:19:22,537
I realized this needs
to be about Jen.
417
00:19:22,579 --> 00:19:25,040
So I'm gonna put all
this petty bullsh-- aside
418
00:19:25,081 --> 00:19:27,459
for a little bit, and we'll
figure out everything later.
419
00:19:27,500 --> 00:19:30,420
Right now I need to be here
for Jen.
420
00:19:30,462 --> 00:19:33,423
The heavens are crying
'cause Jen's leaving.
421
00:19:33,465 --> 00:19:35,050
JEN:
[singsongy] Good morning!
422
00:19:35,091 --> 00:19:37,093
Hi!
423
00:19:37,135 --> 00:19:38,887
Oh, hi. Hi. [laughs]
424
00:19:38,928 --> 00:19:40,930
Cheers to the new day.
425
00:19:40,972 --> 00:19:44,642
Jen, how are you feeling
about everything?
426
00:19:44,684 --> 00:19:49,898
Like a full-on anxiety attack
this morning.
427
00:19:49,939 --> 00:19:51,608
'Cause I have to, like,
actually fly to New York,
428
00:19:51,649 --> 00:19:53,651
and I'm going by myself.
429
00:19:53,693 --> 00:19:55,195
Are you going through discovery
with them?
430
00:19:55,236 --> 00:19:56,821
Are you doing, like,
depositions? What are you doing?
431
00:19:56,863 --> 00:20:00,575
No, we are going to do another
mock trial while I'm there.
432
00:20:00,617 --> 00:20:04,371
And this is the first time
I will be hearing our side.
433
00:20:04,412 --> 00:20:05,955
-Okay.
-The defense side.
434
00:20:05,997 --> 00:20:10,627
We did a mock trial last week
of the...
435
00:20:10,669 --> 00:20:12,087
-Prosecution?
-Prosecution side.
436
00:20:12,128 --> 00:20:15,131
And I mean, I walked out twice,
slammed the door.
437
00:20:15,173 --> 00:20:16,758
[laughs]
438
00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:20,512
It is hard to sit there
and listen to lies,
439
00:20:20,553 --> 00:20:21,930
and you can't talk.
440
00:20:21,971 --> 00:20:23,348
What is the expression they want
you to have? Just stoic?
441
00:20:23,390 --> 00:20:24,933
-Blank, probably, right?
-Blank?
442
00:20:24,974 --> 00:20:27,686
Yeah. In fact,
my lead trial attorney, Priya,
443
00:20:27,727 --> 00:20:30,939
said, "You know, Jen,
I'm gonna need you to, uh,
444
00:20:30,980 --> 00:20:33,024
not get Botox."
445
00:20:35,110 --> 00:20:36,653
And I'm like, "What?"
446
00:20:36,695 --> 00:20:38,154
She goes,
"When we were talking earlier,
447
00:20:38,196 --> 00:20:40,990
you were talking about
something very emotional,
448
00:20:41,032 --> 00:20:42,701
and you're crying,
but your face isn't moving.
449
00:20:42,742 --> 00:20:44,244
I need your face to move."
-Oh. [laughs]
450
00:20:44,285 --> 00:20:45,829
[laughs]
451
00:20:45,870 --> 00:20:47,706
Wait. So you're--
you're taking the stand.
452
00:20:47,747 --> 00:20:49,874
You're totally testifying.
453
00:20:49,916 --> 00:20:51,960
I have no issue testifying.
I think it just depends.
454
00:20:52,002 --> 00:20:53,795
-Like, we don't--you don't know.
-Strategic.
455
00:20:53,837 --> 00:20:55,463
-They don't know yet for sure.
-Yeah. Yeah.
456
00:20:55,505 --> 00:20:59,592
We are a month away now.
457
00:20:59,634 --> 00:21:01,970
That's why this trip
was important to me
458
00:21:02,012 --> 00:21:05,390
'cause I need a little bit
of, like, reprieve from that
459
00:21:05,432 --> 00:21:08,351
and to just, like, get away.
460
00:21:08,393 --> 00:21:10,562
What are you doing
to calm yourself
461
00:21:10,603 --> 00:21:13,523
and to keep yourself, like...
462
00:21:13,565 --> 00:21:16,693
A lot of times I'll go...
463
00:21:16,735 --> 00:21:18,403
[voice breaking]
just lay down next to Omar.
464
00:21:18,445 --> 00:21:20,071
Aw.
465
00:21:20,113 --> 00:21:22,824
And that calms me down.
466
00:21:22,866 --> 00:21:25,702
[sniffles]
467
00:21:25,744 --> 00:21:27,787
It's really hard for my boys
468
00:21:27,829 --> 00:21:32,000
for Omar to think about that
and... [sniffles]
469
00:21:32,042 --> 00:21:34,711
think of, like, not having
his mom around.
470
00:21:34,753 --> 00:21:36,504
It put in perspective
all of the blessings
471
00:21:36,546 --> 00:21:39,716
and things that I have to be
grateful for.
472
00:21:39,758 --> 00:21:42,886
That's why I've just
tried to, like,
473
00:21:42,927 --> 00:21:45,722
not take anything for granted
anymore
474
00:21:45,764 --> 00:21:48,892
and celebrate every single day,
'cause what if
475
00:21:48,933 --> 00:21:54,397
something happens and I'm not
here to celebrate it next year?
476
00:21:54,439 --> 00:21:57,067
[sniffles]
477
00:21:57,108 --> 00:21:59,986
It's overwhelming.
478
00:22:00,028 --> 00:22:03,990
***
479
00:22:04,032 --> 00:22:09,537
Gonna be leaving here
probably in, like, 45 minutes.
480
00:22:09,579 --> 00:22:11,414
Oh, hi.
481
00:22:11,456 --> 00:22:12,499
MEREDITH: Hello.
482
00:22:12,540 --> 00:22:14,084
You look pretty and refreshed.
483
00:22:14,125 --> 00:22:16,753
[laughs]
484
00:22:16,795 --> 00:22:19,547
Sorry. I...My brother's house
took a little bit longer,
485
00:22:19,589 --> 00:22:21,341
but keep going.
-Oh.
486
00:22:21,383 --> 00:22:22,759
[chair scrapes floor]
487
00:22:22,801 --> 00:22:26,805
I haven't spoken to Heather
or seen her,
488
00:22:26,846 --> 00:22:31,851
and honestly, right now I want
nothing to do with her.
489
00:22:31,893 --> 00:22:33,895
-Are you all packed?
-Pretty much.
490
00:22:33,937 --> 00:22:35,605
And pretty much for me means...
491
00:22:35,647 --> 00:22:37,565
-LISA: She's not.
-Yeah.
492
00:22:37,607 --> 00:22:40,652
[laughter]
493
00:22:40,694 --> 00:22:42,445
LISA: Do you want us
to help you pack?
494
00:22:42,487 --> 00:22:44,322
Yeah, probably, 'cause,
495
00:22:44,364 --> 00:22:47,867
you know, I'm not very good
at making flights at all.
496
00:22:47,909 --> 00:22:49,327
[laughter]
497
00:22:49,369 --> 00:22:53,832
You know, Jen's been putting on
an amazing brave face,
498
00:22:53,873 --> 00:22:55,667
but we're all starting
to see her crack,
499
00:22:55,709 --> 00:22:57,752
and we don't know
what's gonna happen,
500
00:22:57,794 --> 00:22:59,796
and in a year from now,
I don't know if she's gonna be
501
00:22:59,838 --> 00:23:01,423
at the same table
with all of us.
502
00:23:01,464 --> 00:23:05,802
You have so much stuff in here.
Now I can see what I can borrow.
503
00:23:05,844 --> 00:23:08,096
-[laughter]
-Okay, I'm leaving these games
504
00:23:08,138 --> 00:23:09,889
for you guys
to play while I'm gone.
505
00:23:09,931 --> 00:23:11,641
HEATHER:
We're not gonna play any games
506
00:23:11,683 --> 00:23:13,560
or have any fun without you.
507
00:23:13,601 --> 00:23:15,353
Hair, hair, hair.
508
00:23:15,395 --> 00:23:17,147
More hair here.
509
00:23:17,188 --> 00:23:18,982
My gosh, it's some hair.
510
00:23:19,024 --> 00:23:22,569
Okay, you know what?
I think I need to get changed.
511
00:23:22,610 --> 00:23:26,865
***
512
00:23:26,906 --> 00:23:29,659
HEATHER: Jen, we'll get
your bags. We'll get your bags.
513
00:23:29,701 --> 00:23:32,495
You got this. You got this.
514
00:23:32,537 --> 00:23:35,540
This trip meant a lot to me.
515
00:23:35,582 --> 00:23:36,958
-Be safe.
-Come on. Group hug. Group hug.
516
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,836
[laughs] Group hug.
Group hug. Group hug.
517
00:23:39,878 --> 00:23:42,839
These four women believe in me,
love me, and support me,
518
00:23:42,881 --> 00:23:45,842
and that's what's important
to me.
519
00:23:45,884 --> 00:23:48,720
Okay, you're gonna miss
your plane. Go, go, go. Love ya.
520
00:23:48,762 --> 00:23:50,388
-Get in the car.
-Bye, babe.
521
00:23:50,430 --> 00:23:51,723
-You look great.
-Bye!
522
00:23:51,765 --> 00:23:53,266
-JEN: Bye!
-HEATHER: Love you!
523
00:23:53,308 --> 00:23:55,185
Love you! Bye!
524
00:23:58,563 --> 00:24:01,191
HEATHER: Farewell!
525
00:24:01,232 --> 00:24:03,777
Oh, my gosh.
526
00:24:03,818 --> 00:24:07,572
I feel overwhelmed.
I'm just gonna go to bed.
527
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,702
Yeah, I think that's smart.
I'm gonna do the same.
528
00:24:20,543 --> 00:24:28,009
***
529
00:24:30,637 --> 00:24:33,056
With everything Jen has
going on,
530
00:24:33,098 --> 00:24:35,725
and her trial looming
over her head,
531
00:24:35,767 --> 00:24:38,186
it gives perspective
on letting things go.
532
00:24:38,228 --> 00:24:40,855
I mean, nothing is bigger than
what she has going on right now
533
00:24:40,897 --> 00:24:42,691
within this group.
534
00:24:42,732 --> 00:24:45,151
-It's a lot.
-It's a lot.
535
00:24:45,193 --> 00:24:47,028
WHITNEY:
I don't know if my eyelids
536
00:24:47,070 --> 00:24:49,989
can take any more crying.
-[laughs]
537
00:24:52,784 --> 00:24:54,285
Coming up...
538
00:24:54,327 --> 00:24:57,372
The trip got derailed, and it
wasn't me that derailed it.
539
00:24:57,414 --> 00:24:59,833
You pushed me into the wall
and called me a liar.
540
00:24:59,874 --> 00:25:03,753
You are up a river
with no paddle. Stop!
541
00:25:13,221 --> 00:25:13,638
[thunderclaps]
542
00:25:15,181 --> 00:25:23,106
***
543
00:25:23,148 --> 00:25:25,400
[indistinct conversation
in distance]
544
00:25:25,442 --> 00:25:30,655
WHITNEY: Ladies, we have
reservations! Let's go!
545
00:25:30,697 --> 00:25:32,657
Did you call?
546
00:25:32,699 --> 00:25:34,034
-Hello.
-Hello.
547
00:25:34,075 --> 00:25:35,285
Lisa!
548
00:25:35,326 --> 00:25:38,663
Hold yourself to
a high standard of timeliness!
549
00:25:38,705 --> 00:25:41,416
I have no standards.
Let's just go.
550
00:25:41,458 --> 00:25:48,631
***
551
00:25:48,673 --> 00:25:50,592
[thunderclap]
552
00:25:50,633 --> 00:25:52,510
Oh, it's raining hard, huh?
553
00:25:52,552 --> 00:25:55,180
Oh. Yes, the rain.
554
00:25:55,221 --> 00:25:57,349
Hi.
555
00:25:57,390 --> 00:26:00,101
Thank you.
556
00:26:00,143 --> 00:26:02,062
HEATHER: That'd be wonderful.
557
00:26:02,103 --> 00:26:03,730
You guys are gonna be
right here.
558
00:26:03,772 --> 00:26:05,357
We'll get some waters
out for you guys.
559
00:26:05,398 --> 00:26:06,858
-Thank you.
-Get all comfortable.
560
00:26:06,900 --> 00:26:08,401
Oh, thank you.
561
00:26:09,819 --> 00:26:10,945
[ice rattling]
562
00:26:10,987 --> 00:26:13,365
[country music playing]
563
00:26:13,406 --> 00:26:15,867
We have some bottles of 1942
to welcome you to Whiskey Row.
564
00:26:15,909 --> 00:26:18,661
-Ooh!
-Whoo!
565
00:26:18,703 --> 00:26:20,372
[laughter]
566
00:26:20,413 --> 00:26:22,665
-Whoo, thank you.
-Here's one for you.
567
00:26:22,707 --> 00:26:24,250
-Very exciting.
-Thank you.
568
00:26:24,292 --> 00:26:25,502
May I get a Diet Coke, too?
Okay, thanks.
569
00:26:25,543 --> 00:26:28,380
-Yes, of course.
-What are we gonna toast to?
570
00:26:28,421 --> 00:26:32,217
I think everybody
should pick just one word
571
00:26:32,258 --> 00:26:34,678
of something meaningful
for us all to toast to.
572
00:26:34,719 --> 00:26:37,055
-Okay, I like that.
-One word?
573
00:26:37,097 --> 00:26:38,640
-Think of one word.
-One word.
574
00:26:38,682 --> 00:26:40,642
And I don't know my word, so if
someone else could go first.
575
00:26:40,684 --> 00:26:42,394
Love. I'll do it. Love.
576
00:26:42,435 --> 00:26:43,478
Peace.
577
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,689
-Heather.
-Friendship.
578
00:26:45,730 --> 00:26:47,399
Okay.
579
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,068
Honesty.
580
00:26:50,110 --> 00:26:53,196
MEREDITH: Here we go.
581
00:26:53,238 --> 00:26:54,406
Yes.
582
00:26:54,447 --> 00:26:55,490
Cheers.
583
00:27:00,245 --> 00:27:03,123
Heather and I
still have not spoken.
584
00:27:03,164 --> 00:27:06,418
We are still not good
and just because
585
00:27:06,459 --> 00:27:08,878
Heather wants to swoop this
under the rug
586
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,423
does not mean
that last night is over.
587
00:27:11,464 --> 00:27:13,091
We're going there.
588
00:27:13,133 --> 00:27:15,844
I know that I am not lying,
589
00:27:15,885 --> 00:27:17,512
and I know that
she hurt me deeply.
590
00:27:17,554 --> 00:27:21,433
[bleep] you for calling me
a ----ing liar!
591
00:27:21,474 --> 00:27:23,935
You are too drunk right now
to be cognizant
592
00:27:23,977 --> 00:27:25,437
of what's happening.
-Oh, don't do that.
593
00:27:25,478 --> 00:27:27,397
-We walked up to--
-[bleep] you!
594
00:27:27,439 --> 00:27:29,024
I never heard that!
595
00:27:29,065 --> 00:27:31,943
We ready to put some food in?
596
00:27:31,985 --> 00:27:34,612
Will you just order stuff
for all of us, please?
597
00:27:34,654 --> 00:27:36,114
Um, American Slider,
598
00:27:36,156 --> 00:27:38,616
the Tennessee Hot Slider,
some hummus.
599
00:27:38,658 --> 00:27:40,493
Okay, thank you.
600
00:27:40,535 --> 00:27:42,370
I wanna show you my family.
601
00:27:42,412 --> 00:27:43,371
HEATHER: I'll give you
a little piece of orange peel.
602
00:27:43,413 --> 00:27:45,457
So this is
your dad's oldest son?
603
00:27:45,498 --> 00:27:48,209
-No, she's my dad's firstborn.
-Okay, got it.
604
00:27:48,251 --> 00:27:49,461
Kelli.
605
00:27:49,502 --> 00:27:51,171
-Curtis.
-Oh, you guys have similarities.
606
00:27:51,212 --> 00:27:53,631
-She looks just like my dad.
-Is this your sister?
607
00:27:53,673 --> 00:27:56,634
-My sister and brother.
-That's her dad's oldest child.
608
00:27:56,676 --> 00:27:58,470
She looks beautiful.
609
00:27:58,511 --> 00:28:00,805
-You look so much like her.
-You definitely look related.
610
00:28:00,847 --> 00:28:02,515
You know, I lived in--in,
611
00:28:02,557 --> 00:28:04,601
uh, Scottsdale for a year
of my life.
612
00:28:04,642 --> 00:28:05,643
You did?
613
00:28:05,685 --> 00:28:07,145
-Wait, what?
-I did.
614
00:28:07,187 --> 00:28:09,606
Wait, what?
Why is this just coming up now?
615
00:28:09,647 --> 00:28:11,691
'Cause I didn't think about it
until now.
616
00:28:11,733 --> 00:28:13,485
[laughter]
617
00:28:13,526 --> 00:28:15,070
-No, uh, you told me.
-When we pass my childhood home,
618
00:28:15,111 --> 00:28:16,404
I remember it.
-I told you that, yeah.
619
00:28:16,446 --> 00:28:17,906
Her sister had bronchitis,
right?
620
00:28:17,947 --> 00:28:19,491
My sister had
chronic bronchitis,
621
00:28:19,532 --> 00:28:21,659
and my father used to, like,
develop communities
622
00:28:21,701 --> 00:28:25,372
through the Sun Belt states,
and so we moved here for a year
623
00:28:25,413 --> 00:28:26,998
to, like,
dry out my sister's lungs,
624
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,292
you know, to be in the dry heat.
625
00:28:29,334 --> 00:28:31,378
[indistinct conversations
in background]
626
00:28:31,419 --> 00:28:33,421
***
627
00:28:33,463 --> 00:28:34,839
WHITNEY: Aw.
628
00:28:34,881 --> 00:28:38,468
And I was remembering
629
00:28:38,510 --> 00:28:41,054
that there was this
one restaurant that I loved
630
00:28:41,096 --> 00:28:43,390
called Pinnacle Peak,
631
00:28:43,431 --> 00:28:47,310
and I would always make
my father wear a tie
632
00:28:47,352 --> 00:28:49,437
because they would cut
your tie off
633
00:28:49,479 --> 00:28:51,398
because it was
the Wild West.
634
00:28:51,439 --> 00:28:52,524
[laughs]
635
00:28:52,565 --> 00:28:54,150
It was just...
636
00:28:54,192 --> 00:28:55,819
And your dad would do that?
He'd wear a tie...
637
00:28:55,860 --> 00:28:57,529
-He would always wear the tie.
-...would let them cut it?
638
00:28:57,570 --> 00:28:58,488
Yeah.
639
00:29:00,699 --> 00:29:03,284
MEREDITH: Just sweet.
640
00:29:03,326 --> 00:29:05,078
You remember that,
and there were a million times
641
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:06,621
you went to dinner
that you don't remember.
642
00:29:06,663 --> 00:29:08,748
You know what I mean? Which is
why when you have to hold on
643
00:29:08,790 --> 00:29:10,375
to those memories,
'cause they're significant.
644
00:29:10,417 --> 00:29:12,669
You don't ever know
what's gonna hit,
645
00:29:12,711 --> 00:29:14,587
what's gonna imprint, you know?
646
00:29:14,629 --> 00:29:19,551
I need to run to the restroom
really quick.
647
00:29:19,592 --> 00:29:23,263
Well, I'm glad you're having
happy memories.
648
00:29:23,304 --> 00:29:26,808
Yeah. It was good. It was good.
649
00:29:26,850 --> 00:29:29,227
So...how do you feel
650
00:29:29,269 --> 00:29:32,939
about things with Heather
after last night?
651
00:29:32,981 --> 00:29:34,983
Really hurt.
652
00:29:35,025 --> 00:29:37,569
You guys need to talk.
653
00:29:37,610 --> 00:29:39,696
***
654
00:29:39,738 --> 00:29:43,450
One, it shocked me. Like...
[sniffles]
655
00:29:43,491 --> 00:29:46,077
Like, I needed her
in that moment,
656
00:29:46,119 --> 00:29:48,580
because I was doing something
very hard for me
657
00:29:48,621 --> 00:29:50,749
in speaking the truth.
658
00:29:50,790 --> 00:29:57,339
And for her to not back me up
but in fact call me a liar,
659
00:29:57,380 --> 00:30:03,595
that crushed me 'cause
she's literally the one person
660
00:30:03,636 --> 00:30:06,931
that I thought
would never do that to me.
661
00:30:06,973 --> 00:30:11,186
'Cause she knows what
I'm going through
662
00:30:11,227 --> 00:30:14,773
and knows that
my biggest issue is trust,
663
00:30:14,814 --> 00:30:20,612
not being heard, being abused,
and being taken advantage of.
664
00:30:20,653 --> 00:30:22,489
LISA: Here's Heather.
665
00:30:22,530 --> 00:30:27,285
***
666
00:30:27,327 --> 00:30:31,539
-Hello, Heather Gay.
-What did I miss?
667
00:30:45,345 --> 00:30:45,679
***
668
00:30:49,891 --> 00:30:52,185
For her to not back me up
669
00:30:52,227 --> 00:30:55,105
but in fact call me a liar,
670
00:30:55,146 --> 00:30:58,400
that crushed me.
671
00:30:58,441 --> 00:31:00,527
LISA: Here's Heather.
672
00:31:00,568 --> 00:31:05,198
***
673
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,200
What did I miss?
674
00:31:07,242 --> 00:31:10,704
I was just talking
about last night.
675
00:31:10,745 --> 00:31:14,791
Like...how...
676
00:31:14,833 --> 00:31:17,210
***
677
00:31:17,252 --> 00:31:19,963
...in a very difficult
situation, I needed you,
678
00:31:20,005 --> 00:31:21,548
and you weren't there for me,
679
00:31:21,589 --> 00:31:23,842
and in fact,
you hurt me deeply...
680
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,388
...and called me a liar
and told me
681
00:31:28,430 --> 00:31:30,682
that I was too drunk,
that I don't remember it,
682
00:31:30,724 --> 00:31:33,101
when I know that you know
what I'm talking about.
683
00:31:33,143 --> 00:31:35,228
Like, that hurt me
because I felt like
684
00:31:35,270 --> 00:31:38,398
you are my girl, Heather,
and in a tough moment
685
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,066
when I needed you...
-I'm unclear on what was
686
00:31:40,108 --> 00:31:41,860
the tough moment
that you needed me.
687
00:31:41,901 --> 00:31:45,238
To corroborate a story
that you had heard?
688
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:46,823
-What did you need--
-To say that you knew it.
689
00:31:46,865 --> 00:31:48,241
-All I needed you to say--
-I didn't know that.
690
00:31:48,283 --> 00:31:51,578
Heather, let's just be honest
and real.
691
00:31:51,619 --> 00:31:54,456
You and I have had
many conversations about Lisa.
692
00:31:54,497 --> 00:31:58,835
Absolutely not about blowjobs
for courtside seats.
693
00:31:58,877 --> 00:32:01,713
Never once. Never not--Never.
694
00:32:01,755 --> 00:32:03,590
-Yeah, we have.
-If you wanna continue--
695
00:32:03,631 --> 00:32:06,301
Guess what. If someone says
something horrible to me
696
00:32:06,343 --> 00:32:07,719
and I choose to recuse that
and not remember that
697
00:32:07,761 --> 00:32:09,679
and not put it in my bank
and not pull it out
698
00:32:09,721 --> 00:32:13,433
to hurt someone,
that is my ----ing choice.
699
00:32:13,475 --> 00:32:14,893
-Then why--
-It is not an indication
700
00:32:14,934 --> 00:32:17,437
of my loyalty to you,
my loyalty to them.
701
00:32:17,479 --> 00:32:19,606
That is my choice.
You wanna talk about sh--,
702
00:32:19,647 --> 00:32:20,899
you talk about it.
-I was.
703
00:32:20,940 --> 00:32:22,942
I don't have to sign up
for every single issue
704
00:32:22,984 --> 00:32:24,402
that is important to you.
705
00:32:24,444 --> 00:32:25,779
But I needed you
in a hard moment.
706
00:32:25,820 --> 00:32:27,447
-You did not need me.
-I did need you.
707
00:32:27,489 --> 00:32:29,199
That is a lie.
You did not need me.
708
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:30,909
-I did need you.
-Why? To say, "Yeah.
709
00:32:30,950 --> 00:32:33,370
I've heard Lisa gave a blowjob
for courtside seats"?
710
00:32:33,411 --> 00:32:34,621
No, because everyone has--
711
00:32:34,662 --> 00:32:36,081
Can we stop saying that?
'Cause that's really--
712
00:32:36,122 --> 00:32:37,499
That's why I would never say it
'cause it's not true.
713
00:32:37,540 --> 00:32:39,000
I know, but that's
really upsetting to me.
714
00:32:39,042 --> 00:32:40,460
[voice breaks] So I'd appreciate
it if you didn't say that.
715
00:32:40,502 --> 00:32:43,088
-I needed...
-You didn't need me.
716
00:32:43,129 --> 00:32:45,590
That's a false idea
in your head.
717
00:32:45,632 --> 00:32:47,217
You're not saying the truth.
718
00:32:47,258 --> 00:32:49,260
It was supposed to be
a trip for Jen.
719
00:32:49,302 --> 00:32:52,806
Why are you coming in screaming
and crying about Lisa's rumors
720
00:32:52,847 --> 00:32:54,307
when the real drama
was our good friend
721
00:32:54,349 --> 00:32:56,434
is facing 50 years in prison
722
00:32:56,476 --> 00:32:59,145
and was leaving alone
on a flight?
723
00:32:59,187 --> 00:33:00,647
Now you're using Jen
as your scapegoat
724
00:33:00,689 --> 00:33:02,691
to what's really going on here.
725
00:33:02,732 --> 00:33:05,235
I mean, Jen's not a scapegoat.
You arranged this trip.
726
00:33:05,276 --> 00:33:06,945
You wanted us to celebrate Jen,
727
00:33:06,986 --> 00:33:09,489
not to work through
all of your personal issues
728
00:33:09,531 --> 00:33:11,991
and your issues
and friendship with Lisa.
729
00:33:12,033 --> 00:33:13,326
You made it about you.
730
00:33:13,368 --> 00:33:14,994
This--I did not make this
about me.
731
00:33:15,036 --> 00:33:17,497
The first night was about you,
and you were crying,
732
00:33:17,539 --> 00:33:19,165
and we talked all about
your childhood abuse.
733
00:33:19,207 --> 00:33:20,917
That was the first dinner.
734
00:33:20,959 --> 00:33:23,878
That was all about you.
That wasn't about Jen.
735
00:33:25,213 --> 00:33:28,299
This is, like, a huge blow
736
00:33:28,341 --> 00:33:30,760
that she isn't supporting me
as her friend
737
00:33:30,802 --> 00:33:34,889
and supporting me as I'm going
through something hard.
738
00:33:34,931 --> 00:33:36,307
Like, it hurts.
739
00:33:36,349 --> 00:33:39,853
This was a fun night,
and we're gonna die on the cross
740
00:33:39,894 --> 00:33:42,731
of, like,
what I've heard about Lisa?
741
00:33:42,772 --> 00:33:47,569
I think you have to explain
because what resonated to me
742
00:33:47,610 --> 00:33:49,195
was not about this or that
is true or false.
743
00:33:49,237 --> 00:33:50,697
It's not about the rumors.
744
00:33:50,739 --> 00:33:54,242
It's about the position
you feel that you are in.
745
00:33:54,284 --> 00:33:59,581
Whether anyone's put you there
or not, those are your feelings,
746
00:33:59,622 --> 00:34:02,292
and you need to explain that
to Heather.
747
00:34:02,334 --> 00:34:05,170
Heather,
what you need to realize,
748
00:34:05,211 --> 00:34:08,173
where my pain is coming from
is because the one person
749
00:34:08,214 --> 00:34:12,719
that was safe to me--you--
that is where my pain is.
750
00:34:12,761 --> 00:34:16,222
Abuse. Being taken advantage of.
Not having a voice.
751
00:34:16,264 --> 00:34:19,726
Poor timing. Poor delivery.
Because I have something to say
752
00:34:19,768 --> 00:34:22,354
but no one ----ing listens
to me.
753
00:34:22,395 --> 00:34:25,857
And I needed you in that moment
to just validate
754
00:34:25,899 --> 00:34:28,109
that I was speaking the truth.
That's it.
755
00:34:28,151 --> 00:34:29,903
You hurt me deeply.
756
00:34:29,944 --> 00:34:32,655
You hurt me, too.
757
00:34:32,697 --> 00:34:35,241
You came into my room.
You ripped sh-- up,
758
00:34:35,283 --> 00:34:36,743
knocked stuff over.
759
00:34:36,785 --> 00:34:38,203
How is that a truth seeker
trying to heal?
760
00:34:38,244 --> 00:34:40,538
I did not knock stuff over.
I ripped up your card
761
00:34:40,580 --> 00:34:43,583
because you had hurt me.
-Okay, because you got a truth?
762
00:34:43,625 --> 00:34:45,460
Well, that hurt me,
so we're even.
763
00:34:47,671 --> 00:34:50,882
Well, I'm cleansing a lot of
family out of my life right now.
764
00:34:50,924 --> 00:34:52,842
Okay, well, why don't you
be accountable
765
00:34:52,884 --> 00:34:54,761
for stirring up a lot of drama
on a trip
766
00:34:54,803 --> 00:34:56,054
that was supposed to be
to celebrate our friend
767
00:34:56,096 --> 00:34:58,306
who's facing real problems
and real issues?
768
00:35:01,434 --> 00:35:03,228
Truth seeker?
That's not a true thing.
769
00:35:03,269 --> 00:35:06,439
Not rumors and bullsh--
that she says is not true.
770
00:35:06,481 --> 00:35:07,774
Oh, my God.
771
00:35:07,816 --> 00:35:11,653
***
772
00:35:11,695 --> 00:35:17,367
At this point, I think Heather
is completely unaware
773
00:35:17,409 --> 00:35:20,453
of how insensitive
she's being to Whitney.
774
00:35:20,495 --> 00:35:22,622
She's going through a lot.
775
00:35:22,664 --> 00:35:24,833
You should be asking her
how she's feeling
776
00:35:24,874 --> 00:35:27,627
and how she's doing
instead of saying
777
00:35:27,669 --> 00:35:29,963
she's making the trip
all about her.
778
00:35:30,005 --> 00:35:33,258
Like, the sensitivity chip--
let's put it back in, Heather.
779
00:35:33,299 --> 00:35:36,678
The trip got derailed, and it
wasn't me that derailed it.
780
00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:39,973
You pushed me into the wall
and called me a liar.
781
00:35:40,015 --> 00:35:42,851
You are up a river
with no paddle. Stop!
782
00:35:45,186 --> 00:35:46,855
You're not gonna put this on me.
I'm not--Look, I did not--
783
00:35:46,896 --> 00:35:49,315
I'm not putting it on you. This
is both of us talking about it.
784
00:35:49,357 --> 00:35:50,817
This is what mature adults do.
785
00:35:50,859 --> 00:35:53,278
But every time I talk
about my feelings, you say,
786
00:35:53,319 --> 00:35:55,155
"Don't talk about feelings.
I don't wanna do this."
787
00:35:55,196 --> 00:35:57,907
-You only talk about feelings.
-That's how you--
788
00:35:57,949 --> 00:35:59,701
that's--that's what it's about.
-You're in charge of the way--
789
00:35:59,743 --> 00:36:02,245
of the dialogues
that we all get to have?
790
00:36:02,287 --> 00:36:05,707
What if we wanna just have
a fun, light, easy dinner?
791
00:36:07,125 --> 00:36:09,669
Okay, we can do that.
792
00:36:09,711 --> 00:36:11,629
This conversation is
unproductive.
793
00:36:11,671 --> 00:36:14,215
It's not going anywhere and what
I'm processing personally
794
00:36:14,257 --> 00:36:17,844
is more important than worrying
about Heather and I.
795
00:36:17,886 --> 00:36:20,472
Like, it's just too much
for me to take on right now.
796
00:36:20,513 --> 00:36:23,600
Okay, guys...
797
00:36:23,641 --> 00:36:26,478
we are leaving tomorrow.
798
00:36:26,519 --> 00:36:28,271
Can we just have some fun
for a minute?
799
00:36:28,313 --> 00:36:30,857
Uh-huh. I'm so down for that.
800
00:36:30,899 --> 00:36:32,359
Okay. Lisa?
801
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:33,735
I'm in.
802
00:36:33,777 --> 00:36:34,569
Okay.
803
00:36:34,611 --> 00:36:37,405
I'm always in.
804
00:36:37,447 --> 00:36:39,324
So this is here
if you guys wanna...
805
00:36:39,366 --> 00:36:40,575
-Oh, thank you.
-...finish it off.
806
00:36:40,617 --> 00:36:41,868
-MEREDITH: Love it. Thank you.
-Thank you.
807
00:36:41,910 --> 00:36:43,078
Thank you, thank you,
thank you.
808
00:36:43,119 --> 00:36:45,372
This is not Utah.
809
00:36:45,413 --> 00:36:46,664
[laughter]
810
00:36:46,706 --> 00:36:48,416
-So true. [laughs]
-[laughs]
811
00:36:48,458 --> 00:36:50,627
HEATHER:
Mmm. I'm hungry, though.
812
00:36:50,669 --> 00:36:52,754
Coming up...
813
00:36:52,796 --> 00:36:56,091
Do you guys think Stuart's
gonna testify against her?
814
00:36:56,132 --> 00:36:59,761
Odds are...he's...
815
00:36:59,803 --> 00:37:02,180
definitely not on her side.
816
00:37:08,269 --> 00:37:08,603
***
817
00:37:11,189 --> 00:37:15,694
LISA: Oh, my.
We do have cheesecake left?
818
00:37:15,735 --> 00:37:20,532
***
819
00:37:20,573 --> 00:37:21,991
-MEREDITH: Hi, guys.
-LISA: Hi.
820
00:37:22,033 --> 00:37:25,120
Hi. I have gifts for everybody.
821
00:37:25,161 --> 00:37:27,372
Thank you.
822
00:37:27,414 --> 00:37:30,083
-This is for me? Thank you.
-That's for you, my love.
823
00:37:30,125 --> 00:37:33,211
Okay.
824
00:37:33,253 --> 00:37:35,005
I'm sneak peeking.
825
00:37:35,046 --> 00:37:37,007
-Ooh, I love this!
-Effin', bee, eye.
826
00:37:37,048 --> 00:37:38,550
Well, I think we pull up
the bottom and say...
827
00:37:38,591 --> 00:37:41,886
FBI. FBI. [laughs]
828
00:37:41,928 --> 00:37:43,471
-FBI.
-Wait, what does it say?
829
00:37:43,513 --> 00:37:44,556
I can't see.
830
00:37:44,597 --> 00:37:46,933
[laughter]
831
00:37:46,975 --> 00:37:51,354
If you guys think that I'm
feeding evidence to the FBI...
832
00:37:51,396 --> 00:37:53,273
That's what they--
they're telling me.
833
00:37:53,314 --> 00:37:54,899
That's ----ing insane.
834
00:37:54,941 --> 00:37:56,651
I'm so flattered
that these women
835
00:37:56,693 --> 00:37:59,362
think I'm more powerful
than the FBI,
836
00:37:59,404 --> 00:38:03,324
but I think they could find
Jennifer Shah without my help.
837
00:38:03,366 --> 00:38:05,660
Has Jen seen this?
838
00:38:05,702 --> 00:38:09,789
Ef...bee, eye.
839
00:38:09,831 --> 00:38:11,499
I love it.
840
00:38:11,541 --> 00:38:13,585
-Yes.
-Did she die laughing?
841
00:38:13,626 --> 00:38:15,712
-Yeah.
-With everything she's facing,
842
00:38:15,754 --> 00:38:18,965
she really did come
and just...danced and...
843
00:38:19,007 --> 00:38:21,634
-I don't--I couldn't--She--
-...spread rosé. [laughs]
844
00:38:21,676 --> 00:38:23,219
She literally
can compartmentalize.
845
00:38:23,261 --> 00:38:26,139
-I couldn't do it.
-She's remarkable in that...
846
00:38:26,181 --> 00:38:27,974
-Yeah.
-...aspect for sure.
847
00:38:30,060 --> 00:38:33,355
Watching her strength and how
confident she is in everything,
848
00:38:33,396 --> 00:38:36,441
it makes me feel like
she's gonna have a good outcome.
849
00:38:36,483 --> 00:38:40,779
Well, what is a good outcome?
Just acquittal first day?
850
00:38:40,820 --> 00:38:42,280
Proven innocent after a week?
851
00:38:42,322 --> 00:38:43,782
I don't even know how
this works.
852
00:38:43,823 --> 00:38:45,909
I don't think anything's
gonna happen first day.
853
00:38:45,950 --> 00:38:47,452
I know, but it's like, I don't
even know what to expect.
854
00:38:47,494 --> 00:38:49,037
I mean, that's very ambitious.
855
00:38:49,079 --> 00:38:51,915
Like, based on everything
we're seeing in the news
856
00:38:51,956 --> 00:38:54,459
of her co-defendants
and people that are pleading,
857
00:38:54,501 --> 00:38:56,336
does it make you nervous?
858
00:38:57,671 --> 00:38:59,714
HEATHER:
It makes me terrified.
859
00:39:02,342 --> 00:39:04,803
LISA:
Okay. Did she seem terrified?
860
00:39:04,844 --> 00:39:06,137
-Yeah?
-Yes, at times,
861
00:39:06,179 --> 00:39:09,557
and at other times,
she seems completely,
862
00:39:09,599 --> 00:39:13,520
um...compartmentalized
like it's not even existing.
863
00:39:13,561 --> 00:39:15,814
And then when the lines
bleed a little bit, you know,
864
00:39:15,855 --> 00:39:17,148
and she's kind of
in that crossover
865
00:39:17,190 --> 00:39:19,150
where it's vulnerable
and hard to talk about,
866
00:39:19,192 --> 00:39:20,985
that's, like, what's
the most heartbreaking
867
00:39:21,027 --> 00:39:24,280
because it's easier sometimes
to be, like,
868
00:39:24,322 --> 00:39:28,284
strong and angry than it is
to just be afraid.
869
00:39:28,326 --> 00:39:30,412
I think Jen is scared,
and I don't think she's
870
00:39:30,453 --> 00:39:31,913
ever really felt fear before,
871
00:39:31,955 --> 00:39:33,707
so she doesn't know how
to talk about it,
872
00:39:33,748 --> 00:39:35,083
and she doesn't know how
to express it,
873
00:39:35,125 --> 00:39:39,337
but...I think she is afraid.
874
00:39:39,379 --> 00:39:41,756
Is it bad that she's
the last one left?
875
00:39:41,798 --> 00:39:43,174
In terms of the trial, yeah,
uh, but--
876
00:39:43,216 --> 00:39:45,176
Is she still eligible
for a plea deal?
877
00:39:45,218 --> 00:39:47,095
I mean, you can always make
a plea deal.
878
00:39:47,137 --> 00:39:49,597
The problem is when you're
talking to the government
879
00:39:49,639 --> 00:39:51,224
and asking them to make a deal,
880
00:39:51,266 --> 00:39:52,851
they wanna know what
you're giving them in return,
881
00:39:52,892 --> 00:39:55,854
and usually,
it's for the bigger fish.
882
00:39:55,895 --> 00:39:58,398
Is Jen the bigger fish?
883
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,693
I don't know. I have no idea.
You know?
884
00:40:01,735 --> 00:40:05,363
Do you guys think Stuart's
gonna testify against her?
885
00:40:05,405 --> 00:40:09,367
Stuart actually pled
to an additional charge.
886
00:40:09,409 --> 00:40:11,703
-WHITNEY: What was that?
-So, like, he had 70.
887
00:40:11,745 --> 00:40:14,039
-Wait. How do you know this?
-I read it in the news.
888
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,999
Wait a second. Wait a second.
889
00:40:16,041 --> 00:40:17,667
If he has pled guilty,
890
00:40:17,709 --> 00:40:20,545
knowing that he could
serve 30 years, what changes?
891
00:40:20,587 --> 00:40:24,049
What information he furnishes?
What type of testimony he gives?
892
00:40:24,090 --> 00:40:26,176
Well, just taking a guilty plea,
893
00:40:26,217 --> 00:40:27,719
they're going to give you
less time,
894
00:40:27,761 --> 00:40:30,597
because that's ownership
of what you did.
895
00:40:30,638 --> 00:40:32,223
But him taking the plea,
896
00:40:32,265 --> 00:40:34,142
I doesn't necessarily mean
that that's bad for Jen.
897
00:40:34,184 --> 00:40:35,769
That, like, could be
a good thing
898
00:40:35,810 --> 00:40:38,146
'cause he's admitting guilt.
899
00:40:38,188 --> 00:40:40,732
Um...
900
00:40:40,774 --> 00:40:43,151
odds are...
901
00:40:43,193 --> 00:40:48,281
he's...definitely...
not on her side.
902
00:40:48,323 --> 00:40:50,075
***
903
00:40:50,116 --> 00:40:52,577
He was so dedicated
to their friendship
904
00:40:52,619 --> 00:40:55,205
and so dedicated to her.
905
00:40:55,246 --> 00:41:00,502
I mean, did you--would you ever
imagine that he had it in him...
906
00:41:00,543 --> 00:41:05,548
***
907
00:41:05,590 --> 00:41:07,926
...to testify against her?
908
00:41:07,967 --> 00:41:11,137
***
909
00:41:11,179 --> 00:41:13,098
Like, can you imagine if she's
sitting in that courtroom,
910
00:41:13,139 --> 00:41:15,433
and he has to come, like,
take the witness stand?
911
00:41:15,475 --> 00:41:19,604
Imagine her having
to face Stuart and have him
912
00:41:19,646 --> 00:41:22,774
plead guilty to things
that she's innocent of.
913
00:41:22,816 --> 00:41:27,529
I cannot fathom that she's
taking this whole thing to trial
914
00:41:27,570 --> 00:41:29,114
and doesn't have a good defense.
915
00:41:29,155 --> 00:41:31,282
The conviction rate
916
00:41:31,324 --> 00:41:33,410
in the Southern District
of New York is extremely high.
917
00:41:33,451 --> 00:41:39,374
It is 98%, which is, you know,
alarming and concerning.
918
00:41:39,416 --> 00:41:42,210
So her statistics
aren't good here.
919
00:41:42,252 --> 00:41:44,462
They are just not good.
920
00:41:44,504 --> 00:41:47,590
I can't imagine going
through this. I really can't.
921
00:41:47,632 --> 00:41:49,968
Um, I'm gonna go to bed,
922
00:41:50,010 --> 00:41:53,596
but I think overall
Jen had fun.
923
00:41:53,638 --> 00:41:58,268
I wish she was here.
I miss her already.
924
00:41:58,309 --> 00:42:00,478
-I think it meant a lot to her.
-I do, too.
925
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:09,738
***
926
00:42:09,779 --> 00:42:13,283
Next time on "The Real
Housewives of Salt Lake City"...
927
00:42:13,324 --> 00:42:16,161
***
928
00:42:16,202 --> 00:42:18,538
Opening Ceremonies, bitches.
929
00:42:18,580 --> 00:42:23,043
I've actually had a boyfriend
for the past two years.
930
00:42:23,084 --> 00:42:25,628
The judge is pushing
the trial out till July.
931
00:42:27,005 --> 00:42:30,008
I'm just tired of people
questioning my innocence.
932
00:42:30,050 --> 00:42:31,259
Our time is coming.
933
00:42:31,301 --> 00:42:33,303
I just don't think
Heather realizes
934
00:42:33,345 --> 00:42:36,014
the magnitude
of what I went through.
935
00:42:36,056 --> 00:42:39,851
You took my pain
and weaponized it against me.
936
00:42:39,893 --> 00:42:42,520
It felt like it was
all about you.
937
00:42:42,562 --> 00:42:44,189
-Hello!
-How are you, gorgeous?
938
00:42:44,230 --> 00:42:46,066
What is Angie Harrington
doing here?
939
00:42:46,107 --> 00:42:48,318
It's like, stab you in the back,
kiss you on the cheek.
940
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:53,615
Hey, could we talk?
Let's go over here. Let's talk.
941
00:42:53,656 --> 00:42:56,451
Angie, to be honest,
I'm not really interested.
942
00:42:56,493 --> 00:42:58,203
-Like, more lies.
-Well, tell me what
943
00:42:58,244 --> 00:43:00,038
the lies are that you think
I've said.
944
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,664
-Oh, there's so many, Angie.
-No, no--
945
00:43:01,706 --> 00:43:04,334
It's too much to count. I'm not
really interested. Sorry.
946
00:43:04,376 --> 00:43:08,046
***