Previously on "The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City"...
Are we supposed to clap or just, like, respect and be quiet?
-I think just respect. -Okay.
[whinnies]
All aboard the Jen Shah Express!
[cheering]
I think booze and bike rides is what this group needs right now.
[cheering]
[sobbing] Will told me...
that I was actually abused, and I just don't remember it.
My siblings, Curtis and Kelli--
they're on a similar journey, and we're all coming together,
and I get to see my brother Curtis
that I haven't seen in years.
[voice breaking] I wasn't expecting this.
***
And I really need it now more than ever, so thank you.
Mm-hmm. Affairs.
It's rumored that one of your... [bleep]
that has the Jazz tickets... -I don't know who you're--
...that you've been involved with them.
-Are you crazy?! -No.
***
[sobbing]
Angie told us John Barlow's friend had those tickets.
I never heard it. You don't think I would love
that information on her?
-You are lying right now. -Tell me how!
***
WHITNEY: Angie told us, and you were there.
-HEATHER: I did not hear it. -WHITNEY: You were there.
[bleep] you for calling me a ----ing liar!
-You called mea liar. -Goddamn you.
Heather.
[bleep] you!
Hey, [bleep] me, please. I'd love to be ----ed.
Heather, what happened?
-What is going on? -She's lying.
Tonight was supposed to be hot girls in lingerie,
gnawing away at hunks of meat, and then Whitney decided
to unload all of these rumors
about Lisa giving blowies for basketball seats,
and now she's dragged me into it,
and I'm a liar in lingerie without a steak to be found.
[sizzling]
Whitney said that I had heard this nugget
about Lisa ----ing some guy for courtside Jazz tickets.
She's drunk, and she doesn't know what she's saying.
[sobbing] Heather didn't even know what I was going through
because I just sit there and listen to her sh--.
She never took time to even ask me how I was doing.
It goes straight to my abuse.
Like, everyone uses me for what they want.
I'm starting to realize now
that because of the abuse that I suffered as a kid,
I never learned how to stand up for myself
or how to set boundaries with people.
And now that I am able to hold a boundary,
other people struggle with it
because they're seeing me show up in a different way
that they weren't expecting.
I'm just done needing everyone else's sh--.
I will not own sh-- that never happened.
I'm really hurt by Heather. She's the person
who knows me the best, who I'm closest to,
who'd I'd expect to be there for me in my darkest hour.
I'm starting to realize that
maybe Heather doesn't give a [bleep] about me.
I am done! I am not a pawn!
Okay, let's--let's not-- let's not...
-I'm so mad. -...get violent with the tongs.
-Sorry. -[laughs]
I've never fought with Whitney like this ever.
We have had big disagreements,
but she's never looked at me and called me a liar ever.
And that's, like, a pretty big accusation
about a pretty stupid thing.
Don't call me a liar ever.
-You called me a liar first. -I never did.
-Look at me. Look at me. -We talked about it, babe.
You are too drunk right now to be cognizant
of what's happening. -Don't do that.
-You better be real.
And if you need more validity, find some facts.
The facts is Angie. Let's call Angie,
because Angie told you and I.
I don't care who Lisa's ----ed.
I don't care who Meredith's ----ed.
I don't care who you ----ed, who Jen's ----ed.
I don't care! I want to come together
and support our friend who's facing--
I'm sorry--50 years in prison.
And guess what this entire evening has become about?
You and you and Lisa.
And that is not the purpose of this trip.
So get focused and realize what this is all about.
On ----ing what?!
-Because Angie said-- -If I was loaded,
then don't hold me ----ing accountable!
-We walked up-- -[bleep] you!
I'm not doing that!
You just lost me for ----ing ever!
You lost me forever,
and that was the biggest ----ing mistake of your life.
Okay, you guys, you guys.
You did not lose me forever, Heather.
No, youlost me,bitch. You lost me.
Bitch, don't come at me.
Oh, my God.
I am already barely forging a foundation with Lisa,
and the last thing I wanna do is just lie,
and your path to truth and friendship with Lisa
is not mine,
certainly not if it requires me to lie or back up bullsh--.
[laughs] It's 'cause it pushes them up.
Because they're, like, at eye level.
***
Thanks for being my friend tonight.
I appreciate, like, the progress we've made...
-I do, too. -...and, like, where we are.
You don't have to thank me for being your friend.
I wanna be your friend. I'll show up as your friend.
Thank you.
And I'm telling you as a friend,
I have never had a conversation with any single person here
about anything about your marriage
or your extramarital affairs. -Thank you. Thank you.
-I'm flying to New York tomorrow night on the red eye.
Yeah, which is why we don't need to talk about this anymore.
-Go. Yeah. -She's leaving for New York...
-Mm-hmm. -...to prepare for the trial
of her goddamn life. -For your life.
LISA: I'm going to bed. Love you. Love you.
I'm gonna sleep.
And let me just sleep. I need to call John.
***
Thanks for being here for me.
***
JEN: I have brought a professional in.
[siren whoops]
[amplified voice] Next on stage!
[singsongy] Crystal Pussy!
Hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo!
This feels wrong. I mean, does anybody else feel wrong?
All right, ladies!
No! She's an instructor.
Oh. How rude of me to assume she was gonna perform.
What'd you do, fly her in from Atlantic City?
The current Shah Squad--you gotta wear a lot of hats, okay?
My makeup artist is also Crystal Pussy.
She is also a twerking instructor.
I signed up for twerking classes.
But turn around. What is this outfit?
***
-Goddamn. -Wow.
I want y'all to twerk
like you need to make some money to pay your rent.
Hello, we're on this healing trip for me, I thought.
So you know what? Let me bring the healing Crystal Pussy
to the party.
Okay, you guys can all go, like, down here.
JEN: Pay your rent. You wanna go home?
You wanna have power? You wanna have light?
You wanna have a roof over your head?
-Okay, ready? -[chanting] Pay that rent.
Pay that rent, pay that rent, pay that rent, pay that rent.
-[snoring loudly] -JEN: What?
[chanting] Okay, paying that rent, you're paying that rent.
-Yes! -Here we go.
You live so expensive.
[laughs]
I don't think I was built to twerk.
-No, she can twerk everywhere. -[laughs]
I can squeeze one butt cheek.
It is definitely not in my wheelhouse.
[laughs]
I will not be making rent this month,
and I'm okay with it.
-One, two, three. -Two, three.
[laughs]
Good night. Love y'all.
Coming up...
***
Okay.
[sighs]
***
What in the world? [laughs]
***
That's where...
***
"Heather, no words needed here. Bad Weather, no matter what.
XOXO, Whitney."
***
I've come to speak with the emperor.
Oh.
[laughter]
-Those are cute pajammies. -Thank you.
They look much warmer and tropical...
...than the weather is reflecting?
Yeah, I mean, why is it raining in the desert?
-Did we bring the rain? -I think our behavior did.
[groans]
[laughs]
-Hey. -Hey.
Good morning.
It's raining.
You look comfy and cozy. Wait. Do we have coffee?
***
I woke up to a very visual representation
of how Whitney feels about our friendship right now. [laughs]
She was very upset last night.
She ripped up, um, our friendship card.
In my room, when I woke up this morning,
it was shredded.
Actually, I know how I can get her back.
***
She left it for me to find,
and I'm just, like, what the [bleep]?
I didn't realize it
'cause I just walked through it last night.
I fell asleep in a pile of Milk Duds and...
[laughs]
That was how that night ended.
JEN: How are you doing this morning?
How I feel?
You think you can have a talk with Heather today?
Yeah, but I'm just...
You're hurt.
Feel completely betrayed.
I think there's a lot of things going on.
I mean, obviously, she's dealing
with her own emotional stuff right now.
I love her. I would never betray her.
I would never even speak ill of her.
WHITNEY: I gotta go get ready...
-JEN: Okay. -...to see my brother.
Is your sister gonna be there?
I hope so.
Are you okay to go see him?
I don't know.
There are two people in this world
that understand and know what I'm going through right now,
and that's my half-brother and sister, Curtis and Kelli.
Curtis really encouraged me to push through
and come on this trip, so I need to see them.
...see you. Will you keep me posted?
Yeah, I'm gonna get there so I can come back...
-Okay. Okay. -...before you go.
Let me know when you leave and stuff.
Okay, I will.
Oh, I need to pack this.
This reprieve for a couple days, it's done now.
Now it's back to reality. Now I have to
get back and immersed into trial preparation.
I just wanted a minute, a few days,
to just pretend this was not happening.
It gives me anxiety because of what I know
the consequences are and what this means
for me and my family.
***
This is what's blowing my mind.
This whole trip was supposed to be about Jen.
I know.
This whole trip was supposed to be fun,
and instead, Whitney's sobbing.
I recognize somehow that this was all, like,
triggering back to her abuse side of things.
I didn't get mad at her. I was hugging her
because I know she is suffering so deeply inside right now
trying to put these pieces together.
***
-Hello. -DRIVER: Good morning.
WHITNEY: Good morning.
***
WHITNEY: This entire process is very intense for me.
I'm hopeful that I can find some relief
and some comfort in meeting with Curtis and Kelli
and continue to connect the dots that I...
have forgotten about my childhood.
***
[thunderclaps]
***
[doorbell rings]
Whit!
What's up? Oh, my God.
Welcome.
-How are you? -Good. Been good.
Come on in.
You're looking good. Thank you. You, too.
-Hey. -Hi, Tanya.
-Nice to see you. -I haven't seen you in so long.
-Your house is amazing. -Thank you.
I wish I was staying at this house.
Whitney!
-Uh-oh. -Oh! My sissy!
***
WHITNEY: Good to see you.
Oh, Whit.
***
Curtis and Kelli and I share the same father.
We have different mothers.
I worry about you not having us with you, you know?
Oh, that's why I'm here.
I wasn't extremely close to them growing up
because when my dad divorced their mom
and married my mom and had me and my sister,
he really just focused his time on...our family.
Like, I saw Curtis and Kelli
maybe a handful of times throughout my childhood.
I'm just so grateful that
they're willing to show up for me now,
and I can have them a part of my life now.
I remember when you were born.
I got a phone call saying, "You have a little sister.
Her name's Whitney," and I was like, "Who is this?"
-You know? -[laughs]
Justin and I talk about that a lot. I'm like,
"I have an older sister..." -Yeah.
-"...that you've never met." -Yeah.
-You never met Justin? -Unh-unh.
-No. -Justin's cool.
I'm on, like, this massive healing journey.
I just have this gaping wound...
-Yeah. -...that I need to close,
and I just feel like you both are the missing link to that.
I hate that we didn't have a connection growing up.
-Oh, we did. We did. -We're connected.
I've always felt like we're a lot alike.
When I went to Utah, before I went on the mission,
I spent some time with you there.
You did?
Yeah, you probably don't remember that, but I do.
-I was in college. -I can feel--
I feel things, so when you were saying that,
like, I have-- I know you were around.
I know I saw you.
And...you know, and I talk to Will a lot
about different memories that I have.
CURTIS: Yeah.
Um, and just through this process,
I realized I was just being manipulated and used and abused.
***
Like, I just realized even though our situations
are probably different, the feeling's the same.
While Curtis, Kelli, and I's traumas
are all different,
we share the same feeling of being let down
by this person that we all knew
and...we should have been able to trust.
I think for me, I realized early that hurt people
hurt other people. -Yeah.
And so if somebody is hurting me, like,
I automatically think you must be hurting.
There--There's two sides of the coin, right,
and we get to choose which side we look at.
I can't erase the negative.
I can just erase the way I-I can feel about it.
There's a lot of good that came from that relationship,
and you have to remember that.
And I think every time you find that gratitude,
at least in my life, it gets me out in front of the negative.
Yeah.
And I'm telling you, it'll never make sense to you, okay?
That's what you need to understand.
It will never make sense. There's never gonna be a moment
where you're like, "Okay, I'm free. I'm successful.
I've got it. Everything is good."
No, because it's not your wound to heal,
and it may never happen.
Do you want it to just disappear and never feel it?
'Cause I don't-- it hasn't for me yet.
It never will, ever.
No I just needed to see you both and hear you say
that it's okay that I let it go.
Yeah, no, move on.
Everybody's got something that they have to deal with.
Mm-hmm.
So deal with it, but give it a time and a place.
You have to, Whitney.
I don't know what the next steps are to continue to heal
and move on, but I do know that I'm gonna let go,
because this is no longer serving me,
and I know that Curtis and Kelli are going to be instrumental
in helping me get through that.
I'm super proud of you, Whitney.
-Thank you, Curtis. -I'm proud of you, too.
[laughs]
***
Coming up...
It is hard to sit there and listen to lies,
and you can't talk.
What is the expression they want you to have? Just stoic?
-Blank, probably, right? -Blank?
Yeah. My lead trial attorney said, "You know, Jen,
***
Hi, Heather. Mmm.
Hi. Good morning...ish.
I've got eggs, bacon, hash browns.
So Jen's leaving soon.
HEATHER: Well, I'm glad we got a fun girls trip for her.
Well, I hope she thinks it was fun.
It wasn't fun.
[laughs] There's nothing fun about it.
What time did you end up going to bed?
I stayed up till, like, 3.
-Good morning. -Good morning.
***
I still feel awkward about everything.
I feel like I'm getting to a better place with Meredith,
But I still don't know what her role was
in all of these rumors.
I was really upset last night. I called John.
He helped calm me down.
After having a burrito and some Kit Kats,
I realized this needs to be about Jen.
So I'm gonna put all this petty bullsh-- aside
for a little bit, and we'll figure out everything later.
Right now I need to be here for Jen.
The heavens are crying 'cause Jen's leaving.
JEN: [singsongy] Good morning!
Hi!
Oh, hi. Hi. [laughs]
Cheers to the new day.
Jen, how are you feeling about everything?
Like a full-on anxiety attack this morning.
'Cause I have to, like, actually fly to New York,
and I'm going by myself.
Are you going through discovery with them?
Are you doing, like, depositions? What are you doing?
No, we are going to do another mock trial while I'm there.
And this is the first time I will be hearing our side.
-Okay. -The defense side.
We did a mock trial last week of the...
-Prosecution? -Prosecution side.
And I mean, I walked out twice, slammed the door.
[laughs]
It is hard to sit there and listen to lies,
and you can't talk.
What is the expression they want you to have? Just stoic?
-Blank, probably, right? -Blank?
Yeah. In fact, my lead trial attorney, Priya,
said, "You know, Jen, I'm gonna need you to, uh,
not get Botox."
And I'm like, "What?"
She goes, "When we were talking earlier,
you were talking about something very emotional,
and you're crying, but your face isn't moving.
I need your face to move." -Oh. [laughs]
[laughs]
Wait. So you're-- you're taking the stand.
You're totally testifying.
I have no issue testifying. I think it just depends.
-Like, we don't--you don't know. -Strategic.
-They don't know yet for sure. -Yeah. Yeah.
We are a month away now.
That's why this trip was important to me
'cause I need a little bit of, like, reprieve from that
and to just, like, get away.
What are you doing to calm yourself
and to keep yourself, like...
A lot of times I'll go...
[voice breaking] just lay down next to Omar.
Aw.
And that calms me down.
[sniffles]
It's really hard for my boys
for Omar to think about that and... [sniffles]
think of, like, not having his mom around.
It put in perspective all of the blessings
and things that I have to be grateful for.
That's why I've just tried to, like,
not take anything for granted anymore
and celebrate every single day, 'cause what if
something happens and I'm not here to celebrate it next year?
[sniffles]
It's overwhelming.
***
Gonna be leaving here probably in, like, 45 minutes.
Oh, hi.
MEREDITH: Hello.
You look pretty and refreshed.
[laughs]
Sorry. I...My brother's house took a little bit longer,
but keep going. -Oh.
[chair scrapes floor]
I haven't spoken to Heather or seen her,
and honestly, right now I want nothing to do with her.
-Are you all packed? -Pretty much.
And pretty much for me means...
-LISA: She's not. -Yeah.
[laughter]
LISA: Do you want us to help you pack?
Yeah, probably, 'cause,
you know, I'm not very good at making flights at all.
[laughter]
You know, Jen's been putting on an amazing brave face,
but we're all starting to see her crack,
and we don't know what's gonna happen,
and in a year from now, I don't know if she's gonna be
at the same table with all of us.
You have so much stuff in here. Now I can see what I can borrow.
-[laughter] -Okay, I'm leaving these games
for you guys to play while I'm gone.
HEATHER: We're not gonna play any games
or have any fun without you.
Hair, hair, hair.
More hair here.
My gosh, it's some hair.
Okay, you know what? I think I need to get changed.
***
HEATHER: Jen, we'll get your bags. We'll get your bags.
You got this. You got this.
This trip meant a lot to me.
-Be safe. -Come on. Group hug. Group hug.
[laughs] Group hug. Group hug. Group hug.
These four women believe in me, love me, and support me,
and that's what's important to me.
Okay, you're gonna miss your plane. Go, go, go. Love ya.
-Get in the car. -Bye, babe.
-You look great. -Bye!
-JEN: Bye! -HEATHER: Love you!
Love you! Bye!
HEATHER: Farewell!
Oh, my gosh.
I feel overwhelmed. I'm just gonna go to bed.
Yeah, I think that's smart. I'm gonna do the same.
***
With everything Jen has going on,
and her trial looming over her head,
it gives perspective on letting things go.
I mean, nothing is bigger than what she has going on right now
within this group.
-It's a lot. -It's a lot.
WHITNEY: I don't know if my eyelids
can take any more crying. -[laughs]
Coming up...
The trip got derailed, and it wasn't me that derailed it.
You pushed me into the wall and called me a liar.
You are up a river with no paddle. Stop!
[thunderclaps]
***
[indistinct conversation in distance]
WHITNEY: Ladies, we have reservations! Let's go!
Did you call?
-Hello. -Hello.
Lisa!
Hold yourself to a high standard of timeliness!
I have no standards. Let's just go.
***
[thunderclap]
Oh, it's raining hard, huh?
Oh. Yes, the rain.
Hi.
Thank you.
HEATHER: That'd be wonderful.
You guys are gonna be right here.
We'll get some waters out for you guys.
-Thank you. -Get all comfortable.
Oh, thank you.
[ice rattling]
[country music playing]
We have some bottles of 1942 to welcome you to Whiskey Row.
-Ooh! -Whoo!
[laughter]
-Whoo, thank you. -Here's one for you.
-Very exciting. -Thank you.
May I get a Diet Coke, too? Okay, thanks.
-Yes, of course. -What are we gonna toast to?
I think everybody should pick just one word
of something meaningful for us all to toast to.
-Okay, I like that. -One word?
-Think of one word. -One word.
And I don't know my word, so if someone else could go first.
Love. I'll do it. Love.
Peace.
-Heather. -Friendship.
Okay.
Honesty.
MEREDITH: Here we go.
Yes.
Cheers.
Heather and I still have not spoken.
We are still not good and just because
Heather wants to swoop this under the rug
does not mean that last night is over.
We're going there.
I know that I am not lying,
and I know that she hurt me deeply.
[bleep] you for calling me a ----ing liar!
You are too drunk right now to be cognizant
of what's happening. -Oh, don't do that.
-We walked up to-- -[bleep] you!
I never heard that!
We ready to put some food in?
Will you just order stuff for all of us, please?
Um, American Slider,
the Tennessee Hot Slider, some hummus.
Okay, thank you.
I wanna show you my family.
HEATHER: I'll give you a little piece of orange peel.
So this is your dad's oldest son?
-No, she's my dad's firstborn. -Okay, got it.
Kelli.
-Curtis. -Oh, you guys have similarities.
-She looks just like my dad. -Is this your sister?
-My sister and brother. -That's her dad's oldest child.
She looks beautiful.
-You look so much like her. -You definitely look related.
You know, I lived in--in,
uh, Scottsdale for a year of my life.
You did?
-Wait, what? -I did.
Wait, what? Why is this just coming up now?
'Cause I didn't think about it until now.
[laughter]
-No, uh, you told me. -When we pass my childhood home,
I remember it. -I told you that, yeah.
Her sister had bronchitis, right?
My sister had chronic bronchitis,
and my father used to, like, develop communities
through the Sun Belt states, and so we moved here for a year
to, like, dry out my sister's lungs,
you know, to be in the dry heat.
[indistinct conversations in background]
***
WHITNEY: Aw.
And I was remembering
that there was this one restaurant that I loved
called Pinnacle Peak,
and I would always make my father wear a tie
because they would cut your tie off
because it was the Wild West.
[laughs]
It was just...
And your dad would do that? He'd wear a tie...
-He would always wear the tie. -...would let them cut it?
Yeah.
MEREDITH: Just sweet.
You remember that, and there were a million times
you went to dinner that you don't remember.
You know what I mean? Which is why when you have to hold on
to those memories, 'cause they're significant.
You don't ever know what's gonna hit,
what's gonna imprint, you know?
I need to run to the restroom really quick.
Well, I'm glad you're having happy memories.
Yeah. It was good. It was good.
So...how do you feel
about things with Heather after last night?
Really hurt.
You guys need to talk.
***
One, it shocked me. Like... [sniffles]
Like, I needed her in that moment,
because I was doing something very hard for me
in speaking the truth.
And for her to not back me up but in fact call me a liar,
that crushed me 'cause she's literally the one person
that I thought would never do that to me.
'Cause she knows what I'm going through
and knows that my biggest issue is trust,
not being heard, being abused, and being taken advantage of.
LISA: Here's Heather.
***
-Hello, Heather Gay. -What did I miss?
***
For her to not back me up
but in fact call me a liar,
that crushed me.
LISA: Here's Heather.
***
What did I miss?
I was just talking about last night.
Like...how...
***
...in a very difficult situation, I needed you,
and you weren't there for me,
and in fact, you hurt me deeply...
...and called me a liar and told me
that I was too drunk, that I don't remember it,
when I know that you know what I'm talking about.
Like, that hurt me because I felt like
you are my girl, Heather, and in a tough moment
when I needed you... -I'm unclear on what was
the tough moment that you needed me.
To corroborate a story that you had heard?
-What did you need-- -To say that you knew it.
-All I needed you to say-- -I didn't know that.
Heather, let's just be honest and real.
You and I have had many conversations about Lisa.
Absolutely not about blowjobs for courtside seats.
Never once. Never not--Never.
-Yeah, we have. -If you wanna continue--
Guess what. If someone says something horrible to me
and I choose to recuse that and not remember that
and not put it in my bank and not pull it out
to hurt someone, that is my ----ing choice.
-Then why-- -It is not an indication
of my loyalty to you, my loyalty to them.
That is my choice. You wanna talk about sh--,
you talk about it. -I was.
I don't have to sign up for every single issue
that is important to you.
But I needed you in a hard moment.
-You did not need me. -I did need you.
That is a lie. You did not need me.
-I did need you. -Why? To say, "Yeah.
I've heard Lisa gave a blowjob for courtside seats"?
No, because everyone has--
Can we stop saying that? 'Cause that's really--
That's why I would never say it 'cause it's not true.
I know, but that's really upsetting to me.
[voice breaks] So I'd appreciate it if you didn't say that.
-I needed... -You didn't need me.
That's a false idea in your head.
You're not saying the truth.
It was supposed to be a trip for Jen.
Why are you coming in screaming and crying about Lisa's rumors
when the real drama was our good friend
is facing 50 years in prison
and was leaving alone on a flight?
Now you're using Jen as your scapegoat
to what's really going on here.
I mean, Jen's not a scapegoat. You arranged this trip.
You wanted us to celebrate Jen,
not to work through all of your personal issues
and your issues and friendship with Lisa.
You made it about you.
This--I did not make this about me.
The first night was about you, and you were crying,
and we talked all about your childhood abuse.
That was the first dinner.
That was all about you. That wasn't about Jen.
This is, like, a huge blow
that she isn't supporting me as her friend
and supporting me as I'm going through something hard.
Like, it hurts.
This was a fun night, and we're gonna die on the cross
of, like, what I've heard about Lisa?
I think you have to explain because what resonated to me
was not about this or that is true or false.
It's not about the rumors.
It's about the position you feel that you are in.
Whether anyone's put you there or not, those are your feelings,
and you need to explain that to Heather.
Heather, what you need to realize,
where my pain is coming from is because the one person
that was safe to me--you-- that is where my pain is.
Abuse. Being taken advantage of. Not having a voice.
Poor timing. Poor delivery. Because I have something to say
but no one ----ing listens to me.
And I needed you in that moment to just validate
that I was speaking the truth. That's it.
You hurt me deeply.
You hurt me, too.
You came into my room. You ripped sh-- up,
knocked stuff over.
How is that a truth seeker trying to heal?
I did not knock stuff over. I ripped up your card
because you had hurt me. -Okay, because you got a truth?
Well, that hurt me, so we're even.
Well, I'm cleansing a lot of family out of my life right now.
Okay, well, why don't you be accountable
for stirring up a lot of drama on a trip
that was supposed to be to celebrate our friend
who's facing real problems and real issues?
Truth seeker? That's not a true thing.
Not rumors and bullsh-- that she says is not true.
Oh, my God.
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At this point, I think Heather is completely unaware
of how insensitive she's being to Whitney.
She's going through a lot.
You should be asking her how she's feeling
and how she's doing instead of saying
she's making the trip all about her.
Like, the sensitivity chip-- let's put it back in, Heather.
The trip got derailed, and it wasn't me that derailed it.
You pushed me into the wall and called me a liar.
You are up a river with no paddle. Stop!
You're not gonna put this on me. I'm not--Look, I did not--
I'm not putting it on you. This is both of us talking about it.
This is what mature adults do.
But every time I talk about my feelings, you say,
"Don't talk about feelings. I don't wanna do this."
-You only talk about feelings. -That's how you--
that's--that's what it's about. -You're in charge of the way--
of the dialogues that we all get to have?
What if we wanna just have a fun, light, easy dinner?
Okay, we can do that.
This conversation is unproductive.
It's not going anywhere and what I'm processing personally
is more important than worrying about Heather and I.
Like, it's just too much for me to take on right now.
Okay, guys...
we are leaving tomorrow.
Can we just have some fun for a minute?
Uh-huh. I'm so down for that.
Okay. Lisa?
I'm in.
Okay.
I'm always in.
So this is here if you guys wanna...
-Oh, thank you. -...finish it off.
-MEREDITH: Love it. Thank you. -Thank you.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
This is not Utah.
[laughter]
-So true. [laughs] -[laughs]
HEATHER: Mmm. I'm hungry, though.
Coming up...
Do you guys think Stuart's gonna testify against her?
Odds are...he's...
definitely not on her side.
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LISA: Oh, my. We do have cheesecake left?
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-MEREDITH: Hi, guys. -LISA: Hi.
Hi. I have gifts for everybody.
Thank you.
-This is for me? Thank you. -That's for you, my love.
Okay.
I'm sneak peeking.
-Ooh, I love this! -Effin', bee, eye.
Well, I think we pull up the bottom and say...
FBI. FBI. [laughs]
-FBI. -Wait, what does it say?
I can't see.
[laughter]
If you guys think that I'm feeding evidence to the FBI...
That's what they-- they're telling me.
That's ----ing insane.
I'm so flattered that these women
think I'm more powerful than the FBI,
but I think they could find Jennifer Shah without my help.
Has Jen seen this?
Ef...bee, eye.
I love it.
-Yes. -Did she die laughing?
-Yeah. -With everything she's facing,
she really did come and just...danced and...
-I don't--I couldn't--She-- -...spread rosé. [laughs]
She literally can compartmentalize.
-I couldn't do it. -She's remarkable in that...
-Yeah. -...aspect for sure.
Watching her strength and how confident she is in everything,
it makes me feel like she's gonna have a good outcome.
Well, what is a good outcome? Just acquittal first day?
Proven innocent after a week?
I don't even know how this works.
I don't think anything's gonna happen first day.
I know, but it's like, I don't even know what to expect.
I mean, that's very ambitious.
Like, based on everything we're seeing in the news
of her co-defendants and people that are pleading,
does it make you nervous?
HEATHER: It makes me terrified.
LISA: Okay. Did she seem terrified?
-Yeah? -Yes, at times,
and at other times, she seems completely,
um...compartmentalized like it's not even existing.
And then when the lines bleed a little bit, you know,
and she's kind of in that crossover
where it's vulnerable and hard to talk about,
that's, like, what's the most heartbreaking
because it's easier sometimes to be, like,
strong and angry than it is to just be afraid.
I think Jen is scared, and I don't think she's
ever really felt fear before,
so she doesn't know how to talk about it,
and she doesn't know how to express it,
but...I think she is afraid.
Is it bad that she's the last one left?
In terms of the trial, yeah, uh, but--
Is she still eligible for a plea deal?
I mean, you can always make a plea deal.
The problem is when you're talking to the government
and asking them to make a deal,
they wanna know what you're giving them in return,
and usually, it's for the bigger fish.
Is Jen the bigger fish?
I don't know. I have no idea. You know?
Do you guys think Stuart's gonna testify against her?
Stuart actually pled to an additional charge.
-WHITNEY: What was that? -So, like, he had 70.
-Wait. How do you know this? -I read it in the news.
Wait a second. Wait a second.
If he has pled guilty,
knowing that he could serve 30 years, what changes?
What information he furnishes? What type of testimony he gives?
Well, just taking a guilty plea,
they're going to give you less time,
because that's ownership of what you did.
But him taking the plea,
I doesn't necessarily mean that that's bad for Jen.
That, like, could be a good thing
'cause he's admitting guilt.
Um...
odds are...
he's...definitely... not on her side.
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He was so dedicated to their friendship
and so dedicated to her.
I mean, did you--would you ever imagine that he had it in him...
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...to testify against her?
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Like, can you imagine if she's sitting in that courtroom,
and he has to come, like, take the witness stand?
Imagine her having to face Stuart and have him
plead guilty to things that she's innocent of.
I cannot fathom that she's taking this whole thing to trial
and doesn't have a good defense.
The conviction rate
in the Southern District of New York is extremely high.
It is 98%, which is, you know, alarming and concerning.
So her statistics aren't good here.
They are just not good.
I can't imagine going through this. I really can't.
Um, I'm gonna go to bed,
but I think overall Jen had fun.
I wish she was here. I miss her already.
-I think it meant a lot to her. -I do, too.
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Next time on "The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City"...
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Opening Ceremonies, bitches.
I've actually had a boyfriend for the past two years.
The judge is pushing the trial out till July.
I'm just tired of people questioning my innocence.
Our time is coming.
I just don't think Heather realizes
the magnitude of what I went through.
You took my pain and weaponized it against me.
It felt like it was all about you.
-Hello! -How are you, gorgeous?
What is Angie Harrington doing here?
It's like, stab you in the back, kiss you on the cheek.
Hey, could we talk? Let's go over here. Let's talk.
Angie, to be honest, I'm not really interested.
-Like, more lies. -Well, tell me what
the lies are that you think I've said.
-Oh, there's so many, Angie. -No, no--
It's too much to count. I'm not really interested. Sorry.
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