1 00:00:02,252 --> 00:00:05,463 Previously on "The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City"... 2 00:00:07,048 --> 00:00:07,298 [amplified voice, chanting] Pay that rent, pay that rent, 3 00:00:08,174 --> 00:00:09,676 You're paying that rent. Yes! 4 00:00:09,718 --> 00:00:12,178 One of the biggest wounds I have is the Church, 5 00:00:12,220 --> 00:00:15,849 and I'm ready to close that chapter. 6 00:00:15,890 --> 00:00:17,308 MEREDITH: Jen, how are you feeling? 7 00:00:17,350 --> 00:00:19,519 Like, a full-on anxiety attack this morning 8 00:00:19,561 --> 00:00:21,813 'cause I have to, like, actually fly to New York. 9 00:00:21,855 --> 00:00:23,481 Are you going through discovery? 10 00:00:23,523 --> 00:00:26,359 We are going to do another mock trial while I'm there. 11 00:00:26,401 --> 00:00:29,696 I was in a very abusive situation, 12 00:00:29,738 --> 00:00:33,533 but I, like, stuffed it so deep that I blocked all memory of it. 13 00:00:35,326 --> 00:00:38,872 Angie told us Lisa sleeps with [bleep], 14 00:00:38,913 --> 00:00:41,124 and you were there. -I did not hear it. 15 00:00:41,166 --> 00:00:42,459 You were there. 16 00:00:42,500 --> 00:00:44,544 I'm really hurt by Heather. 17 00:00:44,586 --> 00:00:47,630 She's the person who I'd expect to be there for me. 18 00:00:47,672 --> 00:00:50,592 Maybe Heather doesn't give a [bleep] about me. 19 00:00:50,633 --> 00:00:52,761 Truth seeker? That's not a true thing. 20 00:00:52,802 --> 00:00:55,722 Not rumors and bullsh-- that she says is not true. 21 00:00:55,764 --> 00:00:57,390 Oh, my God. 22 00:00:57,432 --> 00:00:59,601 You are up a river with no paddle. Stop! 23 00:01:01,436 --> 00:01:03,396 *** 24 00:01:03,438 --> 00:01:06,399 JEN: I'm fighting for my life, not your approval. 25 00:01:06,441 --> 00:01:08,401 *** 26 00:01:08,443 --> 00:01:09,694 WHITNEY: I am more of a free spirit 27 00:01:09,736 --> 00:01:11,821 without the Holy Spirit. 28 00:01:11,863 --> 00:01:14,282 *** 29 00:01:14,324 --> 00:01:15,784 LISA: I'll always have your back 30 00:01:15,825 --> 00:01:19,371 if you stop stabbing me in mine. 31 00:01:19,412 --> 00:01:22,832 MEREDITH: When I take a shot, I always hit my mark. 32 00:01:22,874 --> 00:01:24,459 *** 33 00:01:24,501 --> 00:01:25,752 HEATHER: I may be a bad Mormon, 34 00:01:25,794 --> 00:01:29,547 but I'll always be a good time. 35 00:01:33,343 --> 00:01:44,479 *** 36 00:01:44,521 --> 00:01:47,190 [siren wailing] 37 00:01:47,232 --> 00:01:49,567 Hi, baby, how are you? 38 00:01:49,609 --> 00:01:52,320 I miss you, too. How's Omar doing? 39 00:01:52,362 --> 00:01:54,656 Oh, good. I'm so happy I'll be home tonight. 40 00:01:54,698 --> 00:01:56,783 I can't wait to be home. 41 00:01:56,825 --> 00:02:06,960 *** 42 00:02:07,002 --> 00:02:09,838 -It's a gorgeous day. -Beautiful. 43 00:02:09,879 --> 00:02:12,757 So you know, Brooksy's coming in tomorrow. 44 00:02:12,799 --> 00:02:14,467 -Nice. -Yeah. 45 00:02:14,509 --> 00:02:16,720 You really have told me jack sh-- about your trip. 46 00:02:16,761 --> 00:02:19,431 It was chaotic, not like Zion chaotic, 47 00:02:19,472 --> 00:02:21,474 but not that far off. 48 00:02:21,516 --> 00:02:25,478 *** 49 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,440 LISA: Oh, my gosh. This feels like it's gonna be hard. 50 00:02:28,481 --> 00:02:30,275 -Do I need to bend my knees? -JOHN: No. 51 00:02:30,316 --> 00:02:32,235 [Lisa grunts] Oh-- 52 00:02:32,277 --> 00:02:34,821 JOHN: But if it's too easy, then we can put--we can change it. 53 00:02:34,863 --> 00:02:39,284 Oh, no, it's hard. Is this right? Is my form good? 54 00:02:39,325 --> 00:02:40,827 JOHN: Yeah, it's great. 55 00:02:40,869 --> 00:02:42,579 So did you guys miss me while I was gone? 56 00:02:42,620 --> 00:02:44,330 [chuckles] You could say that. 57 00:02:44,372 --> 00:02:45,957 -John. -Those phone calls were rough. 58 00:02:45,999 --> 00:02:48,376 *** 59 00:02:48,418 --> 00:02:51,671 John, they just said I'm having an affair with [bleep]. 60 00:02:51,713 --> 00:02:54,799 Disgusting! He's laughing. 61 00:02:54,841 --> 00:02:58,011 Angie H. is the one that started this rumor because-- 62 00:02:58,053 --> 00:03:00,430 -That was a setup. -Yeah, that's a--Yeah. 63 00:03:00,472 --> 00:03:02,015 No marriage is perfect, 64 00:03:02,057 --> 00:03:04,017 however, there is no question in my mind 65 00:03:04,059 --> 00:03:05,643 that there is any validity to those rumors, 66 00:03:05,685 --> 00:03:08,730 especially when you consider the lies Angie created 67 00:03:08,772 --> 00:03:11,858 as far as the whole catering debacle. 68 00:03:11,900 --> 00:03:13,568 I got a call from the caterers, 69 00:03:13,610 --> 00:03:15,528 and they were like, "We have to pull out." 70 00:03:15,570 --> 00:03:17,322 This has nothing to do with me. 71 00:03:17,364 --> 00:03:19,032 Everyone around me thinks you're involved. 72 00:03:19,074 --> 00:03:21,326 This is unreal. 73 00:03:21,368 --> 00:03:23,536 She's a pathological liar, 74 00:03:23,578 --> 00:03:25,538 and this is where Whitney won me over a little bit. 75 00:03:25,580 --> 00:03:28,458 What do I always tell our kids? The bad truth is what? 76 00:03:28,500 --> 00:03:30,043 Better than a good lie. 77 00:03:30,085 --> 00:03:31,670 Yeah. She came in with a bad truth 78 00:03:31,711 --> 00:03:35,715 that my "friends" were talking behind my back, 79 00:03:35,757 --> 00:03:37,634 and she didn't feel good about it, 80 00:03:37,676 --> 00:03:39,594 and her guilt kicked in, and I feel like 81 00:03:39,636 --> 00:03:41,554 I saw Whitney in a different way, 82 00:03:41,596 --> 00:03:43,723 and I'm like, wow, this is being my friend. 83 00:03:43,765 --> 00:03:46,434 And as awful as the message was... 84 00:03:46,476 --> 00:03:48,687 She still did it. She still delivered it, yeah. 85 00:03:48,728 --> 00:03:50,480 She said it, and I gave her, like, 86 00:03:50,522 --> 00:03:54,609 I will always give her credit for, like, saying the bad truth. 87 00:03:54,651 --> 00:04:05,412 *** 88 00:04:05,453 --> 00:04:07,622 How'd you sleep? 89 00:04:09,916 --> 00:04:11,334 [yawns and chuckles] 90 00:04:11,376 --> 00:04:12,961 -Tired? -I'm tired. 91 00:04:13,003 --> 00:04:15,380 I am still recovering from Phoenix, 92 00:04:15,422 --> 00:04:16,715 'cause day drinking all day, 93 00:04:16,756 --> 00:04:19,884 and then the emotional wreck I became. 94 00:04:19,926 --> 00:04:22,762 It's only been a few days. 95 00:04:22,804 --> 00:04:26,433 Thank God I have reconnected with Curtis and Kelli, 96 00:04:26,474 --> 00:04:29,686 'cause they've been a missing piece of my life, 97 00:04:29,728 --> 00:04:30,854 don't you think? Like-- -I think it's--Yeah. 98 00:04:30,895 --> 00:04:33,064 They feel so good to me. 99 00:04:33,106 --> 00:04:36,026 I hate that we didn't have a connection growing up. 100 00:04:36,067 --> 00:04:37,944 -We're connected. -No, we did. We did. 101 00:04:37,986 --> 00:04:39,612 Like, I just realized, 102 00:04:39,654 --> 00:04:41,906 even though our situations are probably different, 103 00:04:41,948 --> 00:04:43,033 the feeling's the same. 104 00:04:45,076 --> 00:04:49,039 For what they've gone through, and where they are now, 105 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,124 I think they're a great example of what can be. 106 00:04:51,166 --> 00:04:53,001 Mm-hmm. 107 00:04:53,043 --> 00:04:56,463 My healing journey is not over. I have a long road ahead. 108 00:04:56,504 --> 00:04:58,798 But I realized after spending time with Curtis and Kelli, 109 00:04:58,840 --> 00:05:01,801 it's time to leave the past in the past. 110 00:05:01,843 --> 00:05:06,139 So I'm gonna continue to work with my energy healer, 111 00:05:06,181 --> 00:05:11,728 and I'm gonna look into therapy for PTSD and overcoming trauma. 112 00:05:11,770 --> 00:05:13,021 And with Heather, I'm just trying to reconcile right now, 113 00:05:13,063 --> 00:05:16,483 like, in a moment of conflict, 114 00:05:16,524 --> 00:05:19,986 that Lisa and Jen would stand up for me, 115 00:05:20,028 --> 00:05:22,030 and Heather wouldn't. 116 00:05:22,072 --> 00:05:24,783 I could feel the emotion the night you called me. 117 00:05:24,824 --> 00:05:28,411 -[sobbing] Justin. -What's going on? 118 00:05:28,453 --> 00:05:32,415 Heather just denied ever talking sh-- about Lisa 119 00:05:32,457 --> 00:05:35,502 or that Angie has told us... [gasping] anything. 120 00:05:35,543 --> 00:05:37,962 'Cause if you connect the dots of why it hurt so much, 121 00:05:38,004 --> 00:05:39,506 it's because she didn't hear me. 122 00:05:39,547 --> 00:05:42,550 I didn't have a voice in that situation. 123 00:05:42,592 --> 00:05:46,805 And that is how I spent my entire childhood, 124 00:05:46,846 --> 00:05:49,808 and I don't think that she realizes that, 125 00:05:49,849 --> 00:05:54,938 like, in that moment... it triggered that. 126 00:05:57,982 --> 00:06:07,117 *** 127 00:06:07,158 --> 00:06:09,786 [doorbell rings] 128 00:06:09,828 --> 00:06:10,954 OMG! 129 00:06:10,995 --> 00:06:12,872 Let me in. It's freezing out there. 130 00:06:12,914 --> 00:06:14,040 It's freezing. Get your sweet little ass in here. 131 00:06:14,082 --> 00:06:15,625 -Hi! -How are you? 132 00:06:15,667 --> 00:06:17,669 -Good. How are you? -Good. 133 00:06:17,711 --> 00:06:20,046 ANGIE: How do you feel about a dirty martini? 134 00:06:20,088 --> 00:06:21,589 -I feel great. -Please find yourself a seat. 135 00:06:21,631 --> 00:06:23,133 -And I-- -Oh, I will. 136 00:06:23,174 --> 00:06:25,051 -I'll just seat myself. -Love you. 137 00:06:25,093 --> 00:06:26,094 Goodness. 138 00:06:26,136 --> 00:06:29,055 *** 139 00:06:29,097 --> 00:06:30,557 [squeals] 140 00:06:30,598 --> 00:06:33,810 I never was a waitress, 141 00:06:33,852 --> 00:06:35,478 but I was a busser. 142 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:36,938 The Playboy Bunny dip? Oh, that's even more impressive. 143 00:06:36,980 --> 00:06:39,149 -This is the bowling dip. -That's a lovely dip. 144 00:06:39,190 --> 00:06:41,860 Oh, the Pl--No, no, I know the Playboy B--Hold on. 145 00:06:41,901 --> 00:06:43,611 -Let's see you do it. -I watched a little about-- 146 00:06:43,653 --> 00:06:46,489 The documentary about Hef? Yep. Dip, dip. Go. Drop. 147 00:06:46,531 --> 00:06:47,991 Oh. 148 00:06:48,033 --> 00:06:50,535 Just a couple of middle class girls acting fancy. 149 00:06:50,577 --> 00:06:52,203 Working girls acting fancy. Wish I had my feathers on. 150 00:06:52,245 --> 00:06:53,663 -Oh. -Damn it. 151 00:06:53,705 --> 00:06:56,958 -You're splashing right-- -I told you I wasn't a waitress. 152 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:58,626 -How are you, dear? -I'm good. 153 00:06:58,668 --> 00:07:02,088 I have much tea to talk about. 154 00:07:02,130 --> 00:07:04,049 -I'm already spilling, so... -Spilling the martini tea. 155 00:07:04,090 --> 00:07:06,259 We are in--We are on brand. 156 00:07:06,301 --> 00:07:10,138 Liquid courage to unwind from my girls trip 157 00:07:10,180 --> 00:07:12,807 and fill you in on everything that went down. 158 00:07:12,849 --> 00:07:15,268 Arizona. I'm dying to hear what happened. 159 00:07:15,310 --> 00:07:17,187 We had just kind of gotten there. 160 00:07:17,228 --> 00:07:18,772 We'd had a great time. 161 00:07:18,813 --> 00:07:22,150 The last thing I expected was for Whitney 162 00:07:22,192 --> 00:07:26,988 to come running, like, into the kitchen, wild-eyed, 163 00:07:27,030 --> 00:07:30,950 just kind of came at me and said, "Tell Lisa 164 00:07:30,992 --> 00:07:34,954 you heard Angie say that Lisa performed sexual favors 165 00:07:34,996 --> 00:07:36,623 for courtside seats at the Jazz." 166 00:07:36,664 --> 00:07:38,917 What?! 167 00:07:38,958 --> 00:07:41,795 And I was like, "I never heard that." 168 00:07:41,836 --> 00:07:44,172 Did you ever say that to me at the Jazz game? 169 00:07:44,214 --> 00:07:45,924 Never! 170 00:07:45,965 --> 00:07:47,717 Then where did Whitney get that from? 171 00:07:47,759 --> 00:07:50,053 Let's just say it was true. I would have never said that. 172 00:07:50,095 --> 00:07:51,888 I'm very, like, guarded on what I say and do, 173 00:07:51,930 --> 00:07:54,015 especially in that setting. 174 00:07:54,057 --> 00:07:55,809 That's a business environment. 175 00:07:55,850 --> 00:07:58,895 Chris's company has a courtside suite. 176 00:07:58,937 --> 00:08:01,231 End of story. Done. 177 00:08:01,272 --> 00:08:05,318 Do you think I want another issue with Lisa Barlow 178 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:09,030 as we sit here in the salon gaslight? 179 00:08:09,072 --> 00:08:11,658 What is Whitney talking about? 180 00:08:11,700 --> 00:08:14,911 I don't know Whitney to be a liar. 181 00:08:14,953 --> 00:08:16,913 I know Whitney to be a pot stirrer, 182 00:08:16,955 --> 00:08:19,290 and I know Whitney to be paranoid. 183 00:08:19,332 --> 00:08:20,834 It makes no sense. 184 00:08:20,875 --> 00:08:23,837 I hope it's not true, but if it's true, 185 00:08:23,878 --> 00:08:25,213 whoever Lisa is hooking up with must be a submissive 186 00:08:25,255 --> 00:08:27,340 'cause that's a-- that's a lot to deal with. 187 00:08:27,382 --> 00:08:30,927 [laughing] 188 00:08:30,969 --> 00:08:32,846 So how are you guys right now? 189 00:08:32,887 --> 00:08:36,016 I'm fine. I wanna move on. I'm not holding a grudge. 190 00:08:36,057 --> 00:08:38,226 I'm planning a ski day. We're gonna go to Snowbasin. 191 00:08:38,268 --> 00:08:41,021 It's gonna be everybody. 192 00:08:41,062 --> 00:08:43,815 I'm putting together a ski day. I texted you about it, 193 00:08:43,857 --> 00:08:46,568 and I just wanted to follow up and see if you're down to go. 194 00:08:48,236 --> 00:08:49,696 Okay. 195 00:08:49,738 --> 00:08:51,614 -I want to invite you. -Okay. 196 00:08:51,656 --> 00:08:54,325 My dear friend, I would like you to wear something fabulous. 197 00:08:54,367 --> 00:08:55,785 I'm gonna invite all of my cousins. 198 00:08:55,827 --> 00:08:58,204 I feel like skiing is the perfect activity 199 00:08:58,246 --> 00:09:01,124 to kind of bridge that gap with my cousins, 200 00:09:01,166 --> 00:09:03,126 especially with the book coming out. 201 00:09:03,168 --> 00:09:04,794 I'm writing a book about leaving the Mormon Church, 202 00:09:04,836 --> 00:09:06,880 and I've decided to call it "Bad Mormon." 203 00:09:06,921 --> 00:09:08,923 Everything that I'm writing about 204 00:09:08,965 --> 00:09:12,177 is a destructive path based on the way we were raised, 205 00:09:12,218 --> 00:09:14,971 and I don't know how I feel. I feel a little conflicted. 206 00:09:15,013 --> 00:09:17,891 I don't want my Mormon friends to know that I, like, 207 00:09:17,932 --> 00:09:19,934 have had sex outside of marriage. I'm terrified. 208 00:09:19,976 --> 00:09:22,979 Well, I think-- I think they know. 209 00:09:23,021 --> 00:09:28,860 I'm balancing...my true feelings and my loyalties 210 00:09:28,902 --> 00:09:30,362 to my friends and my family. 211 00:09:32,072 --> 00:09:34,032 It has been incredibly healing 212 00:09:34,074 --> 00:09:36,076 to have my cousins back in my life, 213 00:09:36,117 --> 00:09:37,869 but now I'm scared of the fact 214 00:09:37,911 --> 00:09:39,996 that I'm writing a book called "Bad Mormon" 215 00:09:40,038 --> 00:09:41,706 is going to scare my cousins away. 216 00:09:41,748 --> 00:09:43,083 I don't wanna expose any secrets. 217 00:09:43,124 --> 00:09:44,876 I don't wanna hurt anyone. 218 00:09:44,918 --> 00:09:46,753 I just want the chance to tell my story 219 00:09:46,795 --> 00:09:52,008 in hopes that someone else will relate to it. 220 00:09:52,050 --> 00:09:53,802 Well, you know I'm there for you. 221 00:09:53,843 --> 00:09:56,763 But, like, what am I supposed to do with Whitney? 222 00:09:56,805 --> 00:10:00,684 I just wanna believe that she's mistaken. 223 00:10:00,725 --> 00:10:02,894 No, she was very clear that you said it, I heard it, 224 00:10:02,936 --> 00:10:05,230 and if we said otherwise, we were lying. 225 00:10:05,271 --> 00:10:06,272 Okay. 226 00:10:08,149 --> 00:10:09,693 Mmm. 227 00:10:09,734 --> 00:10:11,236 Coming up... 228 00:10:11,277 --> 00:10:14,114 The judge is pushing the trial out till July. 229 00:10:22,205 --> 00:10:27,460 *** 230 00:10:28,420 --> 00:10:29,212 SETH: Small plates and drinks. 231 00:10:30,255 --> 00:10:31,172 -Ooh, that's my kinda vibe. -Yes. 232 00:10:31,214 --> 00:10:33,967 *** 233 00:10:34,009 --> 00:10:36,011 Welcome to Eva. Just two of you? 234 00:10:36,052 --> 00:10:37,512 We have a third person joining us as well. 235 00:10:37,554 --> 00:10:39,848 Three. Okay. Grab a seat. I'll be with you. 236 00:10:39,889 --> 00:10:42,100 Thank you. Ugh. 237 00:10:42,142 --> 00:10:43,977 -Ooh. -That's so hard to push you. 238 00:10:44,019 --> 00:10:47,313 What is wrong with you? I don't need to be that pushed in. 239 00:10:47,355 --> 00:10:49,149 -Okay. -[laughs] 240 00:10:49,190 --> 00:10:50,817 So what do we like here? 241 00:10:50,859 --> 00:10:52,485 -Hi. -Hi, honey. 242 00:10:52,527 --> 00:10:55,905 -How are you? -Good. 243 00:10:55,947 --> 00:10:57,532 -How are you? -I'm good. I'm good. 244 00:10:57,574 --> 00:10:59,284 Brooksy. 245 00:10:59,325 --> 00:11:06,041 Brooks is a senior at NYU, and he is juggling his business, 246 00:11:06,082 --> 00:11:08,209 working on his new collections 247 00:11:08,251 --> 00:11:10,337 along with his studies at school. 248 00:11:10,378 --> 00:11:13,423 Can we start with a mushroom pizza? 249 00:11:13,465 --> 00:11:15,383 -You sure can. -And he was kind enough 250 00:11:15,425 --> 00:11:18,553 to come and visit his old mother and father. 251 00:11:18,595 --> 00:11:22,807 *** 252 00:11:22,849 --> 00:11:25,101 Why don't you just stay here for the next month? 253 00:11:25,143 --> 00:11:28,188 [laughs] I'm in school. 254 00:11:28,229 --> 00:11:32,108 Oh, you--you have a significant other in any capacity? 255 00:11:32,150 --> 00:11:34,527 I've actually had a boyfriend for the past two years. 256 00:11:34,569 --> 00:11:38,239 Has Mom met...him? 257 00:11:38,281 --> 00:11:40,200 -I'm kidding. -Oh. 258 00:11:40,241 --> 00:11:42,202 Like, jeez, 'cause I haven't heard about him. 259 00:11:42,243 --> 00:11:44,120 [laughs] What the hell? Okay. 260 00:11:44,162 --> 00:11:46,539 Describe your perfect boyfriend. 261 00:11:46,581 --> 00:11:49,918 Why don't you describe your perfect boyfriend? 262 00:11:49,959 --> 00:11:52,128 My perfect boyfriend is Brett Favre. 263 00:11:53,546 --> 00:11:55,256 Who's that? 264 00:11:55,298 --> 00:11:57,258 He's the toughest mother----er that ever lived, 265 00:11:57,300 --> 00:12:00,136 and he's sexy as [bleep]. 266 00:12:01,930 --> 00:12:03,390 -That's my perfect boyfriend. -Wow. 267 00:12:03,431 --> 00:12:07,060 I don't know what my husband sees in Brett Favre. 268 00:12:07,102 --> 00:12:09,396 Maybe it's the looks. 269 00:12:09,437 --> 00:12:12,524 Maybe it's the depth of personality. 270 00:12:12,565 --> 00:12:15,110 I can't even really envision the face, to be totally honest. 271 00:12:15,151 --> 00:12:17,487 [laughs] I know. That's pathetic. 272 00:12:17,529 --> 00:12:19,572 I'm so glad you guys are so interested 273 00:12:19,614 --> 00:12:21,241 in my relationship life. 274 00:12:21,282 --> 00:12:23,284 I'm out in the world. If I find that perfect person, 275 00:12:23,326 --> 00:12:25,078 I want to introduce him to you. 276 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,455 Set me up with whoever you want. 277 00:12:27,497 --> 00:12:30,959 Actually, I take that back. [laughs] 278 00:12:31,001 --> 00:12:33,086 Well, I've got great ideas already. 279 00:12:33,128 --> 00:12:35,296 Auntie's always trying to set me up. 280 00:12:35,338 --> 00:12:37,215 Speaking of Auntie, we have this event with her... 281 00:12:37,257 --> 00:12:38,925 -Mm. -...coming up 282 00:12:38,967 --> 00:12:42,637 to raise awareness and money for mental health and addiction, 283 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,557 and I'll have my stuff in the show, too, 284 00:12:45,598 --> 00:12:48,935 and if you have samples ready, we'll put you in the show. 285 00:12:48,977 --> 00:12:51,521 We're a very close family, 286 00:12:51,563 --> 00:12:54,441 and last winter, my nephew had some 287 00:12:54,482 --> 00:12:57,318 very, very serious mental health issues, 288 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,947 and my sister started this foundation 289 00:13:00,989 --> 00:13:03,199 to give back to some of these mental health facilities 290 00:13:03,241 --> 00:13:06,202 that she felt were very beneficial. 291 00:13:06,244 --> 00:13:08,413 So I kind of came up with this concept 292 00:13:08,455 --> 00:13:12,917 of doing the fashion show as a charity fundraiser for her, 293 00:13:12,959 --> 00:13:14,210 and I'm very excited. 294 00:13:14,252 --> 00:13:16,296 I like the mini mullet. 295 00:13:16,338 --> 00:13:18,506 [chuckles] What do you think, Brooks? 296 00:13:18,548 --> 00:13:20,425 Whatever makes you happy. 297 00:13:20,467 --> 00:13:24,346 I officially gave birth to a baby mullet. 298 00:13:24,387 --> 00:13:25,930 It's my mini mullet? 299 00:13:25,972 --> 00:13:27,432 I love when you play with my mullet. [laughs] 300 00:13:27,474 --> 00:13:29,059 Your mini mullet? 301 00:13:29,100 --> 00:13:30,977 I have a business meeting. 302 00:13:31,019 --> 00:13:32,645 Brooks is like, "Let's go." [laughs] 303 00:13:32,687 --> 00:13:34,522 -Gotta go. -All right. 304 00:13:34,564 --> 00:13:46,493 *** 305 00:13:46,534 --> 00:13:48,578 Okay. 306 00:13:48,620 --> 00:13:52,499 *** 307 00:13:52,540 --> 00:13:55,043 JEN: Some carbs, 'cause we ain't on the keto diet in this house. 308 00:13:55,085 --> 00:13:58,588 We have to do our couples interview exercise, so let's go 309 00:13:58,630 --> 00:14:00,215 back in the living room, and then I'm gonna-- 310 00:14:00,256 --> 00:14:01,716 You want me to bring you a little plate? 311 00:14:01,758 --> 00:14:03,009 -No, ma'am. -You want a water? 312 00:14:03,051 --> 00:14:04,469 -Want one? -Uh, yes. 313 00:14:04,511 --> 00:14:07,430 The three days that I was in New York 314 00:14:07,472 --> 00:14:09,391 meeting with my attorneys was so grueling. 315 00:14:09,432 --> 00:14:11,142 Get this work done. 316 00:14:11,184 --> 00:14:13,061 We're going through mock trials. 317 00:14:13,103 --> 00:14:15,522 So how my legal team is preparing me 318 00:14:15,563 --> 00:14:18,733 is by saying lies, spewing B.S., 319 00:14:18,775 --> 00:14:21,111 and just trying to tear you down. 320 00:14:21,152 --> 00:14:23,613 That's what this was the last three days. 321 00:14:23,655 --> 00:14:25,990 So it feels really good to be home. 322 00:14:26,032 --> 00:14:28,159 This is called soul gazing. 323 00:14:28,201 --> 00:14:29,327 -Obviously-- -What is the purpose of this? 324 00:14:29,369 --> 00:14:32,580 Well, baby, according to the therapist, 325 00:14:32,622 --> 00:14:36,251 soul gazing is to allow us to connect without talking 326 00:14:36,292 --> 00:14:38,712 so that I can see into your soul through your eyes 327 00:14:38,753 --> 00:14:41,047 and extract something... -[laughing] 328 00:14:41,089 --> 00:14:42,674 ...that I don't even understand that I'm extracting, 329 00:14:42,716 --> 00:14:45,552 but it's not for me to interpret. 330 00:14:45,593 --> 00:14:47,429 It's just for me to do. 331 00:14:47,470 --> 00:14:49,264 Coach and I originally started therapy 332 00:14:49,305 --> 00:14:50,765 after my dad passed away, 333 00:14:50,807 --> 00:14:53,268 and I feel like now more than ever, 334 00:14:53,309 --> 00:14:55,061 we have to continue through the couples therapy 335 00:14:55,103 --> 00:14:59,274 to help us navigate through these unchartered waters 336 00:14:59,315 --> 00:15:00,734 that neither of us have ever been through 337 00:15:00,775 --> 00:15:02,110 or know how to deal with. 338 00:15:02,152 --> 00:15:05,155 [exhales deeply] Ready? Go. 339 00:15:05,196 --> 00:15:07,741 You don't have to get that close. 340 00:15:07,782 --> 00:15:10,410 [laughing] 341 00:15:10,452 --> 00:15:12,370 Okay. I don't know about soul gazing. 342 00:15:12,412 --> 00:15:14,372 That clearly wasn't the one for you. 343 00:15:14,414 --> 00:15:16,291 I don't understand all of 344 00:15:16,332 --> 00:15:18,585 the techniques, exercises, or activities. 345 00:15:18,626 --> 00:15:21,087 What I do understand is that I love you. 346 00:15:21,129 --> 00:15:23,048 What I do wanna improve on 347 00:15:23,089 --> 00:15:25,091 is my way of showing you that I love you. 348 00:15:25,133 --> 00:15:28,094 -That's all that matters to me. -Thanks, baby. 349 00:15:28,136 --> 00:15:33,308 You know, I wanted to just kinda sit down and, like, 350 00:15:33,350 --> 00:15:36,644 debrief and decompress from the last week and a half. 351 00:15:36,686 --> 00:15:38,605 I had the girls trip in Phoenix, 352 00:15:38,646 --> 00:15:40,315 got back on the plane to New York. 353 00:15:40,357 --> 00:15:41,524 Right. 354 00:15:41,566 --> 00:15:43,360 Went to meetings for two full, solid days 355 00:15:43,401 --> 00:15:45,111 with Priya and the legal team. 356 00:15:45,153 --> 00:15:48,281 Get home Monday, find out from Priya 357 00:15:48,323 --> 00:15:50,658 the judge is pushing the trial out till July. 358 00:15:50,700 --> 00:15:54,537 I've been working around the clock 359 00:15:54,579 --> 00:15:57,624 preparing for a trial in three weeks, 360 00:15:57,665 --> 00:16:01,211 stressed to the max, trying to fit everything in. 361 00:16:01,252 --> 00:16:03,296 Can't sleep 'cause I'm up all night 362 00:16:03,338 --> 00:16:05,465 with a notepad on my nightstand, 363 00:16:05,507 --> 00:16:07,384 waking up if I think of something to tell the attorneys, 364 00:16:07,425 --> 00:16:09,761 and I write it down, and then all of a sudden to hear, 365 00:16:09,803 --> 00:16:12,055 okay, it's pushed till July. 366 00:16:14,766 --> 00:16:16,851 There was just, like, a lot of emotions mixed up 367 00:16:16,893 --> 00:16:19,562 when I heard that. 368 00:16:19,604 --> 00:16:21,106 I was pissed, angry. 369 00:16:21,147 --> 00:16:26,569 *** 370 00:16:26,611 --> 00:16:30,281 I'm just tired of people questioning my innocence, 371 00:16:30,323 --> 00:16:32,158 and I can't talk about it. 372 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,119 I understand, baby. 373 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,496 So I wanna go to trial. I want my innocence to be proven, 374 00:16:36,538 --> 00:16:37,997 so I'm like, please. -That's right. 375 00:16:38,039 --> 00:16:40,166 Let's get this over with, and we can move on with our life. 376 00:16:40,208 --> 00:16:42,460 This is a test for all of us. 377 00:16:42,502 --> 00:16:44,212 God put this on both of us. 378 00:16:44,254 --> 00:16:45,547 He didn't just give this to my wife. 379 00:16:45,588 --> 00:16:47,173 He put this on both of us. 380 00:16:47,215 --> 00:16:49,551 There's many things that I have to learn from this, 381 00:16:49,592 --> 00:16:51,886 and I will never probably understand all of them, 382 00:16:51,928 --> 00:16:53,805 but right now I have to be present. 383 00:16:53,847 --> 00:16:56,391 I have to be stronger... 384 00:16:56,433 --> 00:16:58,393 because she gets scared. 385 00:16:58,435 --> 00:17:02,188 You can't anticipate the unforeseen circumstances 386 00:17:02,230 --> 00:17:03,732 that are going to hit us. 387 00:17:03,773 --> 00:17:07,902 The only thing you can control is your response. 388 00:17:07,944 --> 00:17:10,864 Our time is coming. 389 00:17:10,905 --> 00:17:14,909 *** 390 00:17:14,951 --> 00:17:16,536 Coming up... 391 00:17:16,578 --> 00:17:17,829 Hey, could we talk? 392 00:17:17,871 --> 00:17:19,831 More lies? Like, I'm not really interested. 393 00:17:19,873 --> 00:17:21,708 Tell me what the lies are that you think I said. 394 00:17:21,750 --> 00:17:23,335 Oh, there are so many, Angie. There's too much to tell. 395 00:17:23,376 --> 00:17:24,919 -No, no. -I'm not really interested. 396 00:17:24,961 --> 00:17:27,255 Sorry. Like, I'm-- I'm just not interested. 397 00:17:33,345 --> 00:17:40,352 *** 398 00:17:41,061 --> 00:17:42,354 What are you doing? 399 00:17:43,980 --> 00:17:45,690 Oh, my gosh. Which one? 400 00:17:47,484 --> 00:17:49,194 Okay, so how did she ask you? 401 00:17:53,323 --> 00:17:55,533 Aw. 402 00:17:55,575 --> 00:17:58,495 It's good. I like it. 403 00:17:58,536 --> 00:18:00,372 All right. I gotta go call my brother. I love you. 404 00:18:00,413 --> 00:18:01,956 Okay. Love you. 405 00:18:01,998 --> 00:18:03,583 Send me a picture after you drop it, okay? 406 00:18:03,625 --> 00:18:04,793 Okay. 407 00:18:04,834 --> 00:18:06,670 *** 408 00:18:06,711 --> 00:18:09,506 [line rings] 409 00:18:09,547 --> 00:18:10,674 [ring] 410 00:18:10,715 --> 00:18:12,759 -Hey, B. -Hello. Hey. 411 00:18:12,801 --> 00:18:14,969 -Hey, where are you? -I'm at home. 412 00:18:15,011 --> 00:18:16,846 Yeah, what are you up to? 413 00:18:16,888 --> 00:18:19,933 [sighs] Just got back from my probation officer. 414 00:18:19,974 --> 00:18:23,353 Oh, my gosh. Kidding. Where-- like, for real, where were you? 415 00:18:23,395 --> 00:18:24,729 I just started working. 416 00:18:24,771 --> 00:18:26,856 There are six kids in my family, 417 00:18:26,898 --> 00:18:29,275 and my brother Brian is the only boy. 418 00:18:29,317 --> 00:18:33,530 Growing up, Brian was constantly playing pranks on me 419 00:18:33,571 --> 00:18:34,823 and messing with me. 420 00:18:34,864 --> 00:18:36,574 Freshman year of high school, 421 00:18:36,616 --> 00:18:38,868 my brother and his friends thought it would be funny 422 00:18:38,910 --> 00:18:41,579 to duct-tape me to the post in the middle 423 00:18:41,621 --> 00:18:43,498 of our school foyer, and literally, 424 00:18:43,540 --> 00:18:45,333 like, no one would help me. 425 00:18:45,375 --> 00:18:47,419 Have you talked to Genia lately? 426 00:18:47,460 --> 00:18:48,670 I haven't. How's she doing? 427 00:18:48,712 --> 00:18:51,464 She has awful days where she calls me, 428 00:18:51,506 --> 00:18:53,383 and she's, like, breaking down, 429 00:18:53,425 --> 00:18:55,885 and, like, yesterday, I talked to her. 430 00:18:55,927 --> 00:18:59,389 Part of me was really sad because she's like... 431 00:18:59,431 --> 00:19:00,682 [voice breaking] Like, honestly, it made me cry. 432 00:19:00,724 --> 00:19:02,434 She was like, "What's wrong with all of us?" 433 00:19:02,475 --> 00:19:06,021 Like, meaning her, Liz, Denise, and Mary. 434 00:19:06,062 --> 00:19:11,735 Because she's like, "Why are we all, like, divorced?" You know? 435 00:19:11,776 --> 00:19:13,903 And I just felt so bad for her. 436 00:19:13,945 --> 00:19:17,991 My brother and I were the last two standing married. 437 00:19:18,033 --> 00:19:21,578 I have three younger sisters, and two of them are divorced. 438 00:19:21,619 --> 00:19:24,414 And my youngest sister and my oldest sister, Genia, 439 00:19:24,456 --> 00:19:26,708 are in the process. 440 00:19:26,750 --> 00:19:28,335 You know, it's, like, hard to watch them 441 00:19:28,376 --> 00:19:31,421 all go through it because, like, you wanna fix everything. 442 00:19:31,463 --> 00:19:33,923 I do feel bad for them with what they're going through. 443 00:19:33,965 --> 00:19:35,967 I just, like, really hope you guys come out 444 00:19:36,009 --> 00:19:38,386 'cause I could really use my family. 445 00:19:38,428 --> 00:19:39,888 I'm gonna keep bugging you. 446 00:19:39,929 --> 00:19:41,473 I hope you will. 447 00:19:41,514 --> 00:19:44,059 -Oh, look who's here. [laughs] -Hey. 448 00:19:44,100 --> 00:19:45,769 My forehead-- My forehead's blinding you. 449 00:19:45,810 --> 00:19:47,604 Um, we-- 450 00:19:47,645 --> 00:19:48,897 -[laughs] -Oh. 451 00:19:48,938 --> 00:19:50,774 You must be looking in the mirror, dude. 452 00:19:50,815 --> 00:19:52,609 Well, it's good to see you, B. I love you. 453 00:19:52,650 --> 00:19:54,694 -All right, take care. -All right, bye, B. 454 00:19:54,736 --> 00:19:57,113 -Hey, um... -So what's going on? 455 00:19:57,155 --> 00:19:59,115 Oh, I was just checking in with my brother 456 00:19:59,157 --> 00:20:00,909 to see if he's talked to my sisters. 457 00:20:00,950 --> 00:20:02,786 What's in your head? 458 00:20:02,827 --> 00:20:04,120 I think for me it's just, like, overwhelming 459 00:20:04,162 --> 00:20:05,747 because it's like I worry about my family. 460 00:20:05,789 --> 00:20:07,791 That's like my blood. That's my people. 461 00:20:07,832 --> 00:20:11,961 That coupled with, like, this consummate negativity 462 00:20:12,003 --> 00:20:13,129 coming from, like, a friend group, 463 00:20:13,171 --> 00:20:14,589 that stresses me out, you know? 464 00:20:14,631 --> 00:20:16,132 Okay. 465 00:20:16,174 --> 00:20:18,134 And I need to counterbalance it with something else. 466 00:20:18,176 --> 00:20:20,762 -What can I do? -Maybe we need to, like, 467 00:20:20,804 --> 00:20:23,640 start, like, focusing on what can you and I do more together? 468 00:20:23,682 --> 00:20:24,891 Okay. 469 00:20:24,933 --> 00:20:26,518 Like, things like just, it feels off, 470 00:20:26,559 --> 00:20:29,145 and I just want to, like, back on track. 471 00:20:29,187 --> 00:20:32,774 It doesn't matter how solid John and I are right now. 472 00:20:32,816 --> 00:20:35,068 Rumors about my marriage hurts and hits hard. 473 00:20:35,110 --> 00:20:36,820 As harsh as it sounds, 474 00:20:36,861 --> 00:20:39,155 you can't get buried in other people's burdens. 475 00:20:39,197 --> 00:20:41,700 I know. 476 00:20:41,741 --> 00:20:44,160 We work together. We're raising kids together. 477 00:20:44,202 --> 00:20:47,997 We've had enough things try and hit us. 478 00:20:48,039 --> 00:20:49,249 [voice breaking] I don't need somebody trying 479 00:20:49,290 --> 00:20:52,752 to break the only thing that matters to me. 480 00:20:52,794 --> 00:20:55,672 All my sisters always say, "You got the best husband." 481 00:20:55,714 --> 00:20:57,048 It's 'cause they don't know me very well. 482 00:20:57,090 --> 00:20:58,842 LISA: No. 483 00:20:58,883 --> 00:21:05,849 *** 484 00:21:05,890 --> 00:21:08,018 -Hey. -What are you doing? 485 00:21:08,059 --> 00:21:12,689 I...am putting together my new ski rack for the Tesla. 486 00:21:12,731 --> 00:21:15,191 It just goes on the trailer hitch. 487 00:21:15,233 --> 00:21:17,902 Oh, no, we're gonna be trailer hitch people? 488 00:21:17,944 --> 00:21:19,612 I always judge those people 489 00:21:19,654 --> 00:21:21,072 that carry their skis on their trailer hitch. 490 00:21:21,114 --> 00:21:22,407 We are top-of-the-car people. 491 00:21:22,449 --> 00:21:24,617 I have no idea what you're talking about right now, 492 00:21:24,659 --> 00:21:27,120 but this is gonna be really cool. 493 00:21:27,162 --> 00:21:28,621 I'm open for change. 494 00:21:28,663 --> 00:21:31,916 Um...so Larane's coming over 495 00:21:31,958 --> 00:21:34,961 to notarize my resignation letter 496 00:21:35,003 --> 00:21:37,213 from the LDS Church. 497 00:21:37,255 --> 00:21:39,466 -Today's the day? -Today's the day. 498 00:21:39,507 --> 00:21:41,593 All right. I'm actually really happy for you, 499 00:21:41,634 --> 00:21:43,553 'cause I know you've been wanting to do this 500 00:21:43,595 --> 00:21:45,096 for quite some time. 501 00:21:45,138 --> 00:21:47,182 This is the final piece of, like, 502 00:21:47,223 --> 00:21:49,893 goodbye to the ----ing man. 503 00:21:49,934 --> 00:21:52,062 -Not you. -Okay. Just checking. 504 00:21:52,103 --> 00:21:53,980 [laughter] 505 00:21:54,022 --> 00:21:57,233 It's funny, 'cause I was so eager to sign the letter 506 00:21:57,275 --> 00:21:58,735 that I failed to read the fine print 507 00:21:58,777 --> 00:22:00,737 that it had to be notarized. 508 00:22:00,779 --> 00:22:03,698 I didn't know I had to get a notary. 509 00:22:03,740 --> 00:22:05,742 Wait. They even have a QR code 510 00:22:05,784 --> 00:22:08,703 for notary instructions. [laughs] 511 00:22:08,745 --> 00:22:11,915 They make it so hard to leave because if they can keep you, 512 00:22:11,956 --> 00:22:15,502 there's a chance that they can reactivate you, 513 00:22:15,543 --> 00:22:17,879 which means you'll start paying 10% of your income again. 514 00:22:17,921 --> 00:22:19,673 [doorbell rings] 515 00:22:19,714 --> 00:22:22,509 I think it's all about money and power and control. 516 00:22:22,550 --> 00:22:24,094 -Hi! -Hi! 517 00:22:24,135 --> 00:22:25,762 Oh, my gosh. You look fabulous. 518 00:22:25,804 --> 00:22:27,555 You look amazing. 519 00:22:27,597 --> 00:22:29,557 They're not trying to save the souls of Zion. 520 00:22:29,599 --> 00:22:30,600 Do you have a pen? I should've brought a pen. 521 00:22:31,726 --> 00:22:31,810 Babe, will you grab a pen from my desk? 522 00:22:33,061 --> 00:22:33,103 I don't need anything special. Just need a pen. 523 00:22:33,978 --> 00:22:34,145 There's a black one in there. 524 00:22:34,813 --> 00:22:36,815 They want your 10%. 525 00:22:36,856 --> 00:22:38,692 I love that they do this. Did you go through the, um... 526 00:22:38,733 --> 00:22:40,527 I went through quitmormon.com. 527 00:22:40,568 --> 00:22:42,612 -QuitMormon, yeah. -Yeah. 528 00:22:42,654 --> 00:22:43,863 Yeah. 529 00:22:43,905 --> 00:22:45,615 You said this was, like, the third time? 530 00:22:45,657 --> 00:22:47,117 -Like, this is the third time? -Mm-hmm. 531 00:22:47,158 --> 00:22:48,243 So why is this the third time, like? 532 00:22:48,284 --> 00:22:51,538 Well, the first time... 533 00:22:51,579 --> 00:22:54,124 was when I was still married to my ex. 534 00:22:54,165 --> 00:22:56,793 -Mm-hmm. -Um... 535 00:22:56,835 --> 00:22:58,128 and I went through the repentance process. 536 00:22:58,169 --> 00:23:00,672 -So I informed them... -Yeah. 537 00:23:00,714 --> 00:23:03,591 ...I haven't been faithful to my husband, 538 00:23:03,633 --> 00:23:10,849 and I...want to get divorced, and I want to leave the Church. 539 00:23:10,890 --> 00:23:15,145 They were like, "Okay, no, you need to have a council" 540 00:23:15,186 --> 00:23:17,814 and tell them everything I had done. 541 00:23:17,856 --> 00:23:19,566 -Right. -How I have sinned. 542 00:23:19,607 --> 00:23:20,775 Like, how I have been cheating on my husband. 543 00:23:22,110 --> 00:23:22,694 They'd ask me questions about when, where, how? 544 00:23:23,820 --> 00:23:24,654 Which hindsight-- highly inappropriate. 545 00:23:24,696 --> 00:23:27,032 Right. 546 00:23:27,073 --> 00:23:30,785 Um...and then they had my ex come in, 547 00:23:30,827 --> 00:23:35,165 and they said to me, "You'll be forgiven of all of your sins 548 00:23:35,206 --> 00:23:37,584 if you go back to the temple tomorrow." 549 00:23:37,625 --> 00:23:40,295 -For reals? -For reals. 550 00:23:40,337 --> 00:23:46,634 It's, like, we-- based on every Mormon doctrine, 551 00:23:46,676 --> 00:23:49,346 everything that I've been taught my entire life, 552 00:23:49,387 --> 00:23:51,014 you should be ex-communicating me 553 00:23:51,056 --> 00:23:52,891 on the spot right now. 554 00:23:52,932 --> 00:23:55,852 I remember sitting in front of that council 555 00:23:55,894 --> 00:24:01,358 feeling not only ashamed of, like, what I've done, 556 00:24:01,399 --> 00:24:04,861 but I almost feel like I'm being preyed on. 557 00:24:04,903 --> 00:24:06,780 I felt manipulated. I felt icky. 558 00:24:06,821 --> 00:24:09,949 That's when I knew I did not believe this. 559 00:24:09,991 --> 00:24:14,621 So then I got divorced. Then I tried to do it again. 560 00:24:14,662 --> 00:24:16,706 But I couldn't because I was still sealed... 561 00:24:16,748 --> 00:24:18,041 -Right. -...to my ex. 562 00:24:18,083 --> 00:24:19,876 I was not ex-communicated 563 00:24:19,918 --> 00:24:23,213 because that wouldn't be in favor for my ex-husband. 564 00:24:23,254 --> 00:24:26,633 So even though I committed the same sin as Justin, 565 00:24:26,675 --> 00:24:28,134 he's ex-communicated, 566 00:24:28,176 --> 00:24:32,013 but the men get to decide what happens to me. 567 00:24:32,055 --> 00:24:34,641 Our entire life we were told because we're women, 568 00:24:34,683 --> 00:24:36,393 we don't have a say. 569 00:24:36,434 --> 00:24:39,104 If we wanna do something, a man has to approve it. 570 00:24:39,145 --> 00:24:42,315 Right. And finally, for the first time, 571 00:24:42,357 --> 00:24:46,361 I get to say, and I'm saying no. 572 00:24:46,403 --> 00:24:48,780 As I'm going through this healing journey, 573 00:24:48,822 --> 00:24:50,073 I'm starting to see the parallels 574 00:24:50,115 --> 00:24:53,910 between the abuse of power from the Church 575 00:24:53,952 --> 00:24:56,413 and the abuse from my family member. 576 00:24:56,454 --> 00:24:59,332 And while they are two different things, 577 00:24:59,374 --> 00:25:02,419 signing this letter today is me taking back my power. 578 00:25:02,460 --> 00:25:04,421 I just need you to sign and date it. 579 00:25:04,462 --> 00:25:05,922 Do you want me to take a picture? 580 00:25:05,964 --> 00:25:07,757 -Yeah. Will you film it? -This is a big deal. 581 00:25:07,799 --> 00:25:11,428 I know. It's making it official. 582 00:25:11,469 --> 00:25:14,431 I'm even gonna heart the "I." 583 00:25:14,472 --> 00:25:16,266 All right. 584 00:25:16,307 --> 00:25:18,768 I feel like we should be popping a bottle. 585 00:25:18,810 --> 00:25:21,771 -I know. Toasting. -[laughs] 586 00:25:21,813 --> 00:25:23,273 "This letter is to inform you 587 00:25:23,314 --> 00:25:25,025 that I have terminated my membership 588 00:25:25,066 --> 00:25:26,860 with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints." Yes! 589 00:25:26,901 --> 00:25:28,445 -[stomps foot] -[laughs] 590 00:25:28,486 --> 00:25:30,113 Coming up... 591 00:25:30,155 --> 00:25:33,700 I have not spoken to Heather. 592 00:25:40,248 --> 00:25:50,216 *** 593 00:25:51,551 --> 00:25:54,429 I know. It's gonna be a bluebird day, so sunny. 594 00:25:54,471 --> 00:25:55,764 Hey, welcome, Heather. Good morning. 595 00:25:55,805 --> 00:25:58,016 -Hi! Hi, Michael. -Hey, how you doing? 596 00:25:58,058 --> 00:25:59,351 -Yeah, welcome to Snowbasin. -Thank you. 597 00:25:59,392 --> 00:26:00,852 Do we look like beginners or advanced? 598 00:26:00,894 --> 00:26:02,437 Ooh. I think you look advanced. 599 00:26:02,479 --> 00:26:03,938 -Thank you. -With those skis and that setup. 600 00:26:03,980 --> 00:26:06,775 Sorry. I have my hands full. 601 00:26:06,816 --> 00:26:08,193 *** 602 00:26:08,234 --> 00:26:12,405 Hi! I thought I heard a familiar voice. [laughs] 603 00:26:12,447 --> 00:26:14,491 -Good to see you. -Look, it's my twin. 604 00:26:14,532 --> 00:26:16,409 -Hi! -Hi. Hi, Dre. 605 00:26:16,451 --> 00:26:18,536 This is my cousin Morgan. I think you guys have met. 606 00:26:18,578 --> 00:26:20,038 -Hi. How are you? -Hi. Good. How are you? 607 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:21,414 -Thanks for coming. -I'm so excited. 608 00:26:21,456 --> 00:26:25,043 This is my cousin Ali, but she married in. 609 00:26:25,085 --> 00:26:26,294 -Hi. -Hi. 610 00:26:26,336 --> 00:26:27,462 Even though we still look a lot alike. 611 00:26:27,504 --> 00:26:28,880 -And then here's... -Hi! 612 00:26:28,922 --> 00:26:32,050 -...the real twin twin. -[laughs] 613 00:26:32,092 --> 00:26:33,802 This is my cousin Susan who's named after my mom. 614 00:26:33,843 --> 00:26:36,012 -Okay. -Heather! 615 00:26:36,054 --> 00:26:37,013 -What's up, girl?! -What's up?! 616 00:26:37,055 --> 00:26:39,391 -Hi! -Hi! Oh, my gosh. Hi. 617 00:26:39,432 --> 00:26:41,851 -Let me take your board for you. -Yes. 618 00:26:41,893 --> 00:26:43,895 Thank you so much for inviting me! 619 00:26:43,937 --> 00:26:45,146 You're welcome. Come meet my cousins. 620 00:26:45,188 --> 00:26:48,066 -Okay, yeah, absolutely. -Ali, Susie, 621 00:26:48,108 --> 00:26:49,567 this is my friend Danna. You know Dre from Beauty Lab. 622 00:26:49,609 --> 00:26:50,944 -Oh, hey! How are you? -You know Danna. 623 00:26:50,985 --> 00:26:54,239 You can tell she's a Beauty Labber. Look at her skin. 624 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:55,907 I love Danna, and she's been coming to Beauty Lab 625 00:26:55,949 --> 00:26:58,410 since we were at our old location years ago. 626 00:26:58,451 --> 00:27:01,955 So it's fun to be able to hang out with her outside of work. 627 00:27:01,996 --> 00:27:04,916 What do you listen to, rap? 628 00:27:04,958 --> 00:27:06,584 I listen to...yeah. I listen to... 629 00:27:06,626 --> 00:27:08,420 -I listen to rap. -I listen to everything. 630 00:27:08,461 --> 00:27:10,088 You know how there's Jenny from the block? 631 00:27:10,130 --> 00:27:12,424 I'm Danna from the park. 632 00:27:12,465 --> 00:27:14,384 Women like Danna inspire me 633 00:27:14,426 --> 00:27:15,927 because she has a very good heart, 634 00:27:15,969 --> 00:27:18,471 but she also still keeps her edge. 635 00:27:18,513 --> 00:27:20,890 It's beautiful today. 636 00:27:20,932 --> 00:27:22,976 -Hi. -Well, hello. 637 00:27:23,018 --> 00:27:24,936 You look so good. I like you in orange. 638 00:27:24,978 --> 00:27:26,312 Look at you, beauty. 639 00:27:28,356 --> 00:27:31,109 You know I'm gonna be on the bunny hill the whole day. 640 00:27:31,151 --> 00:27:32,152 You can come visit me. 641 00:27:32,193 --> 00:27:33,403 No, come with the advanced group. 642 00:27:33,445 --> 00:27:34,529 Trust me, you don't want me on that. 643 00:27:34,571 --> 00:27:37,991 I'll be, like, screaming all the way down. 644 00:27:38,033 --> 00:27:39,242 Who do you think's gonna be on the bunny hill? You? 645 00:27:39,284 --> 00:27:41,995 -Jen. -So that leaves... 646 00:27:42,037 --> 00:27:43,246 Me, Heather, and Meredith? 647 00:27:43,288 --> 00:27:44,247 Yeah. 648 00:27:44,289 --> 00:27:46,458 *** 649 00:27:46,499 --> 00:27:52,005 I have not spoken to Heather since Arizona. 650 00:27:52,047 --> 00:27:54,341 -Oh, really? -Yeah. 651 00:27:54,382 --> 00:27:57,344 Heather really hurt me. 652 00:27:57,385 --> 00:28:00,430 And I've been so open and vulnerable 653 00:28:00,472 --> 00:28:02,140 about something that's painful for me right now, 654 00:28:02,182 --> 00:28:07,228 and I feel like that was being used 655 00:28:07,270 --> 00:28:08,897 as a weapon against me. -Against you. 656 00:28:08,938 --> 00:28:10,148 This is the song and dance that Heather and I do. 657 00:28:10,190 --> 00:28:12,359 Like, we just gotta break the ice. 658 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,527 I don't know if it is the best day 659 00:28:14,569 --> 00:28:16,404 to try to resolve things with Heather, 660 00:28:16,446 --> 00:28:17,989 but if she is open to talking about it, 661 00:28:18,031 --> 00:28:20,325 then I'll talk with her. 662 00:28:20,367 --> 00:28:22,369 Like, I think, you know, you learned about 663 00:28:22,410 --> 00:28:24,245 a lot about your relationship with Heather that day. 664 00:28:24,287 --> 00:28:26,247 And, like, and that gives you 665 00:28:26,289 --> 00:28:28,124 an opportunity for change and growth. 666 00:28:28,166 --> 00:28:30,001 -Mm-hmm, yeah. -And you. 667 00:28:30,043 --> 00:28:32,212 Like, I never thought we'd be sitting here in a car together. 668 00:28:32,253 --> 00:28:33,505 -[laughs] Hi, Whitney. -Yeah. 669 00:28:33,546 --> 00:28:34,923 I'll come down to the bunny hill later. 670 00:28:34,964 --> 00:28:38,510 -I need a drink. [laughs] -Come visit me. 671 00:28:38,551 --> 00:28:40,345 Oh, hello! 672 00:28:40,387 --> 00:28:44,140 Boop, boop, boop, boop! 673 00:28:44,182 --> 00:28:45,684 [laughs] 674 00:28:45,725 --> 00:28:47,936 -I'm here! -Hi! 675 00:28:47,977 --> 00:28:50,021 This is Danna from Beauty Lab I was telling you about. 676 00:28:50,063 --> 00:28:51,564 -Nice meeting you. -Hi! 677 00:28:51,606 --> 00:28:53,441 -Nice meeting you. -No, so are you. 678 00:28:53,483 --> 00:28:54,526 -This is my cousin Ali. -Hi. 679 00:28:54,567 --> 00:28:55,652 -Hi! -This is Jen. 680 00:28:55,694 --> 00:28:57,195 Nice to meet you. 681 00:28:57,237 --> 00:28:59,155 Oh, so you're gonna teach me how to ski? 682 00:28:59,197 --> 00:29:00,699 -Sure. -No, she's not. 683 00:29:00,740 --> 00:29:02,242 -[laughs] -There are rumors circulating 684 00:29:02,283 --> 00:29:04,494 about you that you will be bartending 685 00:29:04,536 --> 00:29:06,204 on the bunny hill today. -Absolutely. 686 00:29:06,246 --> 00:29:07,455 [laughs] 687 00:29:07,497 --> 00:29:10,542 Am I athletic? Yes. Am I a skier? No. 688 00:29:10,583 --> 00:29:15,296 Me and the bunny hill today-- we're gonna be best friends, 689 00:29:15,338 --> 00:29:18,550 delivering Easter eggs to these bitches. 690 00:29:18,591 --> 00:29:21,386 -Hi! How are you? -How are you? 691 00:29:21,428 --> 00:29:23,054 -So good to see you. -You look beautiful. 692 00:29:23,096 --> 00:29:24,389 Thank you. 693 00:29:24,431 --> 00:29:26,182 Hi. 694 00:29:26,224 --> 00:29:27,642 Oh, Ange! 695 00:29:27,684 --> 00:29:29,019 -How are you? -Hi. 696 00:29:29,060 --> 00:29:32,063 Let me help you. I love the swans. 697 00:29:32,105 --> 00:29:34,399 -It my swan song. -It is your swan song. Hi. 698 00:29:34,441 --> 00:29:36,359 -Don't mind me if I do ballet. -Thanks for coming. 699 00:29:38,653 --> 00:29:41,197 -No! -No? 700 00:29:41,239 --> 00:29:43,283 What is Angie Harrington doing here? 701 00:29:48,621 --> 00:29:51,666 Are these real questions? 702 00:29:51,708 --> 00:29:54,252 You guys, you guys, you guys, everybody, thank you so much 703 00:29:54,294 --> 00:29:56,129 for coming to our snow bunny ski day. 704 00:29:56,171 --> 00:29:58,173 You're welcome! 705 00:29:58,214 --> 00:30:00,633 Now I want you to self-assess. 706 00:30:00,675 --> 00:30:03,303 If you feel comfortable heading up the gondola 707 00:30:03,345 --> 00:30:06,765 to the top of the mountain and skiing the hardest hills, 708 00:30:06,806 --> 00:30:10,435 then you'll wanna follow me and my bad-ass cousins. 709 00:30:10,477 --> 00:30:11,770 -[laughter] -Okay. 710 00:30:11,811 --> 00:30:13,313 If you'd rather take it easy, that's okay, too. 711 00:30:13,355 --> 00:30:15,440 We're taking the champagne with us, 712 00:30:15,482 --> 00:30:17,484 but don't worry about that. 713 00:30:17,525 --> 00:30:18,610 -Hi, Katy. I'm Angie. -Angie, nice to meet you. 714 00:30:18,651 --> 00:30:20,779 -Hey. -What's up? 715 00:30:20,820 --> 00:30:23,073 -Good to see you. -Good to see you. 716 00:30:23,114 --> 00:30:26,659 This hug is as fake as everything else about her. 717 00:30:26,701 --> 00:30:29,454 Why are you ----ing hugging me? 718 00:30:29,496 --> 00:30:32,248 You ----ing lied about me to damage me and my family. 719 00:30:32,290 --> 00:30:35,794 You could have hurt my business. Why are you here? 720 00:30:35,835 --> 00:30:37,504 Your name is on your skis and gear. 721 00:30:37,545 --> 00:30:39,631 Put it on, and let's go to the gondola. 722 00:30:39,673 --> 00:30:41,508 I mean, it's like, okay, Heather, 723 00:30:41,549 --> 00:30:44,177 we're working on being in a good place. 724 00:30:44,219 --> 00:30:45,804 How do you expect us to have a good relationship 725 00:30:45,845 --> 00:30:47,722 if you invite somebody 726 00:30:47,764 --> 00:30:50,225 that just talked badly about my family and my marriage? 727 00:30:50,266 --> 00:30:53,228 *** 728 00:30:53,269 --> 00:30:55,063 Coming up... 729 00:30:55,105 --> 00:30:59,609 Danna and Jen--they're like, "Why did you invite Angie H.?" 730 00:30:59,651 --> 00:31:01,403 And when I, like, just put together a list 731 00:31:01,444 --> 00:31:04,656 of who I wanted to ski with, I didn't even think about you. 732 00:31:10,370 --> 00:31:24,592 *** 733 00:31:25,093 --> 00:31:26,261 Thank you. 734 00:31:26,302 --> 00:31:28,221 It's so pretty. 735 00:31:28,263 --> 00:31:30,390 -Oh, this is gorgeous. -It's gorgeous. 736 00:31:30,432 --> 00:31:32,684 The sound of success. 737 00:31:34,894 --> 00:31:36,604 Just like in western movies. 738 00:31:38,606 --> 00:31:40,275 Let's hit it. 739 00:31:48,158 --> 00:31:58,251 *** 740 00:31:58,293 --> 00:32:00,795 Opening Ceremonies, bitches! 741 00:32:00,837 --> 00:32:03,381 I am from Hawaii. 742 00:32:03,423 --> 00:32:05,759 I'm like Moana, okay? I am like the Heart of the Ocean. 743 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,469 [harp plays glissando] 744 00:32:07,510 --> 00:32:08,720 How do I turn? 745 00:32:08,762 --> 00:32:11,264 -Big bitch energy. -Come on, let's go. 746 00:32:11,306 --> 00:32:13,475 Wait. I'm not on the ocean right now. I'm on the snow. 747 00:32:13,516 --> 00:32:16,603 And I have made great progress, because a few years ago, 748 00:32:16,644 --> 00:32:18,605 I was on roller skates trying to prepare. 749 00:32:18,646 --> 00:32:20,273 [clapping] 750 00:32:20,315 --> 00:32:22,609 [chanting] Move it! Move it! 751 00:32:22,650 --> 00:32:24,444 Move on down that hill! 752 00:32:24,486 --> 00:32:26,696 Move it! Move it! 753 00:32:26,738 --> 00:32:28,198 Uh-oh. 754 00:32:28,239 --> 00:32:30,283 -Move it on down that hill! -Oh, sh--. 755 00:32:30,325 --> 00:32:34,287 But now I'm on the snow. I'm on the sticks. 756 00:32:34,329 --> 00:32:36,664 Pizza, French fry? What do you want? 757 00:32:36,706 --> 00:32:40,960 You know, I'm not really, like, an outdoor mountain girl. 758 00:32:41,002 --> 00:32:42,671 Like, my version of outdoors is, like, 759 00:32:42,712 --> 00:32:47,384 sitting on a beach with a cabana with service. 760 00:32:47,425 --> 00:32:48,843 Whoops. Aah! 761 00:32:48,885 --> 00:32:51,763 Food service. Beverage service. 762 00:32:51,805 --> 00:32:53,556 Maybe someone that would, like, 763 00:32:53,598 --> 00:32:56,976 come and bring me new towels every hour. 764 00:32:57,018 --> 00:33:00,980 *** 765 00:33:01,022 --> 00:33:02,774 Like, this kind of isn't my thing. 766 00:33:02,816 --> 00:33:05,360 -You guys, I'm so hot. -Oh, my gosh. That was amazing. 767 00:33:05,402 --> 00:33:08,697 We can be in bikinis. Bikini skiing. 768 00:33:08,738 --> 00:33:09,989 I know. We should be in bikinis! 769 00:33:10,031 --> 00:33:12,492 I feel like snowboarding looks way harder. 770 00:33:12,534 --> 00:33:14,202 I would say it's a little harder. 771 00:33:18,248 --> 00:33:20,500 Do your girls board, too, or no? 772 00:33:20,542 --> 00:33:21,751 Well, my 20-year-old-- she boards. 773 00:33:21,793 --> 00:33:24,462 We have a 10-year-old, a 7, and a 4. Oh, 5. 774 00:33:24,504 --> 00:33:26,006 And you gave birth to the 10, 7, and 4? 775 00:33:26,047 --> 00:33:27,632 -Yeah. -Well, I gave birth to this one 776 00:33:27,674 --> 00:33:30,343 right there, Angie K. -Yeah. Yes, I'm her baby. 777 00:33:30,385 --> 00:33:33,888 Listen, when I rolled up, I saw Angie H., not Angie K. 778 00:33:33,930 --> 00:33:37,350 *** 779 00:33:37,392 --> 00:33:39,686 Well, she wasn't on my guest list. 780 00:33:39,728 --> 00:33:41,479 I mean, we were friends for 20 years, 781 00:33:41,521 --> 00:33:44,399 and she lied about me and my family and my business. 782 00:33:44,441 --> 00:33:46,317 That's not a friend. I don't even want her around me. 783 00:33:46,359 --> 00:33:48,278 But 20 years is so long, though. 784 00:33:48,319 --> 00:33:49,821 Like, how do you feel about ending that friendship with her? 785 00:33:49,863 --> 00:33:51,865 Fine. She's Heather and Whitney's friend. 786 00:33:51,906 --> 00:33:53,992 I'm uninterested. 787 00:33:54,034 --> 00:33:55,660 It makes me question Heather a little bit, though, 788 00:33:55,702 --> 00:33:57,537 because it's like, Heather, you, like, know 789 00:33:57,579 --> 00:33:59,873 she's been talking sh-- about me. 790 00:33:59,914 --> 00:34:02,334 Like, why are you inviting her? Especially because, like, 791 00:34:02,375 --> 00:34:04,627 Heather and I have been working towards a better friendship. 792 00:34:04,669 --> 00:34:05,545 Right. 793 00:34:07,297 --> 00:34:08,923 You know what? 794 00:34:08,965 --> 00:34:11,384 I think we wrap this up, and we go to après-ski. 795 00:34:11,426 --> 00:34:12,761 Yes! 796 00:34:12,802 --> 00:34:14,637 We're gonna get tore up to the floor up. 797 00:34:14,679 --> 00:34:16,348 -[laughs] -We're gonna turn up, okay? 798 00:34:16,389 --> 00:34:17,390 -Yes! -Let's do it. 799 00:34:17,432 --> 00:34:22,437 *** 800 00:34:22,479 --> 00:34:24,898 -Come in, everybody. -Heather, this is gorgeous. 801 00:34:24,939 --> 00:34:27,317 Thank you for coming and joining me. 802 00:34:27,359 --> 00:34:29,027 Get settled. Get comfy. Take your helmets off. 803 00:34:29,069 --> 00:34:32,364 -This is so gorgeous. I love it. -Isn't this beautiful? 804 00:34:32,405 --> 00:34:34,324 -Look at the view. It's amazing. -This is spectacular. 805 00:34:34,366 --> 00:34:40,288 Oh, my goodness! You survived! You're here. How was it? 806 00:34:41,623 --> 00:34:43,833 [Heather laughs] 807 00:34:43,875 --> 00:34:45,794 Wow. 808 00:34:45,835 --> 00:34:50,924 *** 809 00:34:50,965 --> 00:34:53,426 Should we get a drink, girls? 810 00:34:53,468 --> 00:34:55,011 Got a couple of different whites, couple different reds. 811 00:34:55,053 --> 00:34:58,098 -Um, we've got some champagne. -I think I'll have a Chardonnay. 812 00:34:58,139 --> 00:35:02,727 *** 813 00:35:02,769 --> 00:35:03,770 -Cheers. -Cheers. 814 00:35:03,812 --> 00:35:05,772 -Cheers. -Salut! 815 00:35:05,814 --> 00:35:07,857 Last time we saw you, it was a group hug 816 00:35:07,899 --> 00:35:09,943 and a lot of tears, worried about our girl, 817 00:35:09,984 --> 00:35:12,070 but now it's completely flipped. 818 00:35:12,112 --> 00:35:14,823 I have been wanting the trial to happen since last October. 819 00:35:14,864 --> 00:35:16,116 Yeah. 820 00:35:16,157 --> 00:35:20,954 And so my perspective is whenever it happens, 821 00:35:20,995 --> 00:35:22,789 that's when God wants it to happen. 822 00:35:22,831 --> 00:35:25,542 Yep, and it's gonna be-- and it's gonna work out amazing. 823 00:35:25,583 --> 00:35:27,419 HEATHER: Did they give you a date? 824 00:35:27,460 --> 00:35:30,672 So here's the thing. We're looking at July 11th. 825 00:35:31,965 --> 00:35:34,926 -Oh, so Hamptons. -[laughter] 826 00:35:34,968 --> 00:35:36,636 -[singsongy] Hamptons! -I know, like, literally, 827 00:35:36,678 --> 00:35:37,679 I'm like, Jen, I'll get the house. 828 00:35:37,721 --> 00:35:39,139 -Get the house. -Weekend. 829 00:35:39,180 --> 00:35:41,141 I don't know why we're celebrating this. 830 00:35:41,182 --> 00:35:42,600 -In Hamptons. -[laughs] 831 00:35:42,642 --> 00:35:44,436 'Cause there's more time that goes by 832 00:35:44,477 --> 00:35:46,646 that she doesn't know what the outcome's gonna be. 833 00:35:46,688 --> 00:35:48,398 She doesn't know who the witnesses are. 834 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:49,941 She doesn't know the evidence. Like... 835 00:35:49,983 --> 00:35:55,488 The prosecution could be gathering key witnesses. 836 00:35:55,530 --> 00:35:58,450 This could be really bad for Jen. 837 00:35:58,491 --> 00:35:59,826 Okay, I'm gonna make a plate. 838 00:35:59,868 --> 00:36:01,953 *** 839 00:36:01,995 --> 00:36:05,081 -[sighs] That was lovely. -Such a nice day. 840 00:36:05,123 --> 00:36:06,750 I had such a nice time. 841 00:36:06,791 --> 00:36:08,668 *** 842 00:36:08,710 --> 00:36:10,420 -Hi, my dear. -Oh, hi, honey. 843 00:36:10,462 --> 00:36:11,838 -How are you? -Am I interrupting? 844 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,840 -Oh, no. -No. You're welcome. 845 00:36:13,882 --> 00:36:15,800 So I was with Heather last night, 846 00:36:15,842 --> 00:36:18,011 and we had a little spritzer. 847 00:36:18,053 --> 00:36:20,722 Um, but she was saying that, like, in Arizona, 848 00:36:20,764 --> 00:36:23,016 you guys had a falling out, which was very surprising to me, 849 00:36:23,058 --> 00:36:24,851 'cause you guys are... -Yeah. 850 00:36:24,893 --> 00:36:27,062 ...have always been ride or die for each other. 851 00:36:27,103 --> 00:36:29,689 The problem is, is that we got tripped up 852 00:36:29,731 --> 00:36:32,025 on details instead of bigger picture. 853 00:36:32,067 --> 00:36:33,860 We were all at a Jazz game. 854 00:36:33,902 --> 00:36:35,528 We all talked about a certain man, 855 00:36:35,570 --> 00:36:36,863 and I know you know who I'm talking about. 856 00:36:36,905 --> 00:36:38,198 ANGIE: Okay. 857 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,033 We were joking that Heather should date him. 858 00:36:40,075 --> 00:36:41,993 The rumor was that Lisa had, 859 00:36:42,035 --> 00:36:46,122 which Lisa clearly says she hasn't. 860 00:36:49,584 --> 00:36:52,003 -We were totally drinking. -Yeah. 861 00:36:52,045 --> 00:36:54,714 I'll be honest with you. I don't remember all these details. 862 00:36:54,756 --> 00:36:57,133 -I know that we did. -Right, and I think it's 863 00:36:57,175 --> 00:37:00,136 pretty clear I would own it if I remembered it. I just don't. 864 00:37:00,178 --> 00:37:01,971 I expect this of Angie. 865 00:37:02,013 --> 00:37:05,141 This is what liars do to cover their asses. 866 00:37:05,183 --> 00:37:08,144 But I'm not as upset with her because 867 00:37:08,186 --> 00:37:10,021 the stakes aren't as high with me and Angie. 868 00:37:10,063 --> 00:37:12,899 Like, Heather means more to me. 869 00:37:12,941 --> 00:37:14,609 The fact that you wear Spanx-- 870 00:37:14,651 --> 00:37:16,069 if I could wear Spanx with this outfit, I would. 871 00:37:16,111 --> 00:37:17,570 -Yes, you can! -Well, tell me next time. 872 00:37:17,612 --> 00:37:19,489 Bitch, shut the [bleep] up. 873 00:37:19,531 --> 00:37:23,785 What happened on the bunny slope? How was it? 874 00:37:23,827 --> 00:37:27,789 You invited Angie Harrington to ski day? Really? 875 00:37:27,831 --> 00:37:31,126 I feel like Lisa is feeling like, 876 00:37:31,167 --> 00:37:33,044 if we're trying to get to a better place, 877 00:37:33,086 --> 00:37:35,046 why did Heather invite... 878 00:37:35,088 --> 00:37:37,257 -Angie. -Angie. 879 00:37:37,298 --> 00:37:38,883 Yeah. No, that's totally fair. 880 00:37:38,925 --> 00:37:40,093 I was just trying to, like, bring 881 00:37:40,135 --> 00:37:41,761 all of the worlds together. -Yeah. 882 00:37:41,803 --> 00:37:43,805 If I was her, I would wanna hear that from you. 883 00:37:43,847 --> 00:37:45,765 It's like a sh--ty excuse, but it's the truth. 884 00:37:45,807 --> 00:37:47,267 -I didn't do it to be, like... -Then just tell her. 885 00:37:47,308 --> 00:37:49,102 -...to be a jab. -Just talk to her. 886 00:37:49,144 --> 00:37:50,520 Go there right now. 887 00:37:50,562 --> 00:37:53,023 Okay, everybody. 888 00:37:53,064 --> 00:37:55,275 HEATHER: Can I have a quick convo with you, Lise? 889 00:37:55,316 --> 00:37:57,777 -Okay. -Come over here, Angie K. 890 00:37:57,819 --> 00:37:59,571 -Sit down. -Okay. 891 00:37:59,612 --> 00:38:02,240 -Right here? -Yeah. 892 00:38:02,282 --> 00:38:06,536 Um...so I just had a little conversation with Danna and Jen. 893 00:38:06,578 --> 00:38:08,580 Okay. 894 00:38:08,621 --> 00:38:12,834 And they're like, "Why did you invite Angie H.?" 895 00:38:12,876 --> 00:38:14,669 When I, like, just put together 896 00:38:14,711 --> 00:38:16,087 a list of who I wanted to ski with, 897 00:38:16,129 --> 00:38:18,548 I didn't even think about you or consider you, 898 00:38:18,590 --> 00:38:20,300 and I--I'm sorry for that. 899 00:38:20,342 --> 00:38:22,177 The fact that Heather 900 00:38:22,218 --> 00:38:24,804 didn't even take my feelings into consideration 901 00:38:24,846 --> 00:38:28,558 might be worse than the guest list. 902 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:29,934 Just so you know, going forward, 903 00:38:29,976 --> 00:38:31,561 like, I wouldn't be okay with that, 904 00:38:31,603 --> 00:38:32,896 and I also want you to know, 905 00:38:32,937 --> 00:38:35,023 like, I would never do that to you, you know? 906 00:38:35,065 --> 00:38:37,650 -I got it, and I'm sorry. -Thank you. 907 00:38:37,692 --> 00:38:39,194 You wanna get some food and drinks? 908 00:38:39,235 --> 00:38:40,737 Yeah, yeah, let's do it right. 909 00:38:40,779 --> 00:38:42,947 -Do you want some charcuterie? -No. 910 00:38:42,989 --> 00:38:45,617 -I do. -[laughs] You're like, "I do." 911 00:38:45,658 --> 00:38:49,162 Okay, wait, hold on. I'm gonna grab a little bit. 912 00:38:49,204 --> 00:38:52,874 Hey, hey, could we talk? Let's go over here. 913 00:38:52,916 --> 00:38:55,085 Let's talk. 914 00:38:55,126 --> 00:38:57,337 Angie, to be honest, I'm not really interested. 915 00:38:57,379 --> 00:38:59,339 -Well... -With, like, more lies, 916 00:38:59,381 --> 00:39:00,757 like, I'm not really interested. 917 00:39:00,799 --> 00:39:01,591 -Tell me... -Yeah. 918 00:39:02,300 --> 00:39:03,802 Tell me what the lies are, Lisa. 919 00:39:03,843 --> 00:39:05,345 I'm not really interested. Like... 920 00:39:05,387 --> 00:39:07,180 Tell me what the lies are that you think I've said. 921 00:39:07,222 --> 00:39:08,765 Oh, there's so many, Angie. It's too much to count. 922 00:39:08,807 --> 00:39:10,100 -No, no. -I'm not really interested. 923 00:39:10,141 --> 00:39:13,978 Sorry. Like, I'm-- I'm just not interested. 924 00:39:14,020 --> 00:39:17,023 -She's not my guest. [laughs] -[laughter] 925 00:39:25,323 --> 00:39:27,909 *** 926 00:39:28,993 --> 00:39:29,202 I'm not really interested, like... 927 00:39:30,537 --> 00:39:31,162 Tell me what the lies are that you think I've said. 928 00:39:32,205 --> 00:39:32,956 -Oh, there's so many, Angie. -No, no. 929 00:39:34,374 --> 00:39:34,416 There's too much to count. I'm not really interested. 930 00:39:35,583 --> 00:39:37,085 Sorry. Like, I'm-- I'm just not interested. 931 00:39:37,127 --> 00:39:40,213 She's not my guest. 932 00:39:40,255 --> 00:39:42,924 It doesn't matter that we knew each other for 20 years. 933 00:39:42,966 --> 00:39:45,051 It's like, stab you in the back, kiss you in the cheek. 934 00:39:45,093 --> 00:39:47,429 And sometimes it's both at the same time. 935 00:39:47,470 --> 00:39:49,389 The damage has been done. 936 00:39:49,431 --> 00:39:51,307 [indistinct conversations] 937 00:39:54,853 --> 00:39:57,063 -We actually have to go. -Yeah. 938 00:39:57,105 --> 00:39:58,940 -We won't be long. -Oh, go, go, go, go, go. 939 00:39:58,982 --> 00:39:59,816 Where are we talking? Right here? 940 00:39:59,858 --> 00:40:01,443 Um, yeah, over here. 941 00:40:01,484 --> 00:40:02,819 Ohh. 942 00:40:02,861 --> 00:40:05,780 What's up, sis? 943 00:40:05,822 --> 00:40:10,201 I just...ooh. 944 00:40:10,243 --> 00:40:13,204 Our...our fight was over details. 945 00:40:13,246 --> 00:40:19,169 I remember very clearly talking with you about Lisa. 946 00:40:19,210 --> 00:40:21,046 I know we've talked about rumors about Lisa. 947 00:40:21,087 --> 00:40:23,757 We've talked about Lisa...for... 948 00:40:23,798 --> 00:40:25,175 -Yeah. -...ever. 949 00:40:25,216 --> 00:40:27,135 But I had never heard those specific rumors, 950 00:40:27,177 --> 00:40:31,181 and I felt like you came charging up after this, like, 951 00:40:31,222 --> 00:40:33,808 looking for me to corroborate, and, girl, 952 00:40:33,850 --> 00:40:36,061 if I could, I wouldn't even flinch. 953 00:40:36,102 --> 00:40:37,812 I wasn't asking you to corroborate. 954 00:40:37,854 --> 00:40:40,357 I was just asking you to have my back. 955 00:40:40,398 --> 00:40:42,025 I don't want you to corroborate if you don't remember. 956 00:40:42,067 --> 00:40:45,070 If you don't remember, that's fine. That's fair. 957 00:40:45,111 --> 00:40:47,739 But I remember, so we're gonna have to agree to disagree... 958 00:40:47,781 --> 00:40:49,157 -Absolutely. -...on that detail. 959 00:40:49,199 --> 00:40:50,408 Absolutely. 960 00:40:50,450 --> 00:40:52,285 Agree to disagree to me just means, 961 00:40:52,327 --> 00:40:55,789 "I will let you go on this crazy-ass journey, 962 00:40:55,830 --> 00:40:58,333 and I will be waiting for you when you come back," 963 00:40:58,375 --> 00:41:01,336 because there's no disagreement. She's just wrong. 964 00:41:01,378 --> 00:41:03,254 But there's something that you did on that trip... 965 00:41:03,296 --> 00:41:05,965 -What? -...that hurt me even more. 966 00:41:06,007 --> 00:41:11,513 You said, like, took, my pain and weaponized it against me. 967 00:41:11,554 --> 00:41:13,306 -How did I-- -I don't even know 968 00:41:13,348 --> 00:41:15,058 if you are aware... -I'm--Tell me how I did that. 969 00:41:15,100 --> 00:41:17,060 -...of what you did. -Tell me. 970 00:41:17,102 --> 00:41:20,105 You kinda turned it on me that I made the trip about myself, 971 00:41:20,146 --> 00:41:23,149 this healing journey, that it should have been about Jen. 972 00:41:23,191 --> 00:41:25,485 But, like, in the moment, I didn't see me sharing 973 00:41:25,527 --> 00:41:28,321 what I was going through as, like, 974 00:41:28,363 --> 00:41:30,198 me making it about me. 975 00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:32,158 I'm sorry if that was interpreted that way. 976 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:36,246 I just think what matters is that I was hurt, 977 00:41:36,287 --> 00:41:38,373 and I want you to hear that. 978 00:41:38,415 --> 00:41:41,543 I don't believe she's being sincere because 979 00:41:41,584 --> 00:41:43,378 she still hasn't, like, 980 00:41:43,420 --> 00:41:47,215 given an explicit "I'm sorry for not having your back." 981 00:41:47,257 --> 00:41:48,383 It is Bad Weather no matter what, 982 00:41:48,425 --> 00:41:52,178 and we can weather the storm. -Okay. 983 00:41:52,220 --> 00:41:55,974 Heather's, like, the biggest, like, "Woe is me" person, 984 00:41:56,016 --> 00:41:58,977 and I have been there for Heather countless times, 985 00:41:59,019 --> 00:42:03,273 but in this moment, all I hear is... 986 00:42:03,314 --> 00:42:05,984 Heather doesn't care about me. 987 00:42:06,026 --> 00:42:07,944 Thank you for hearing me and understanding my hurt, 988 00:42:07,986 --> 00:42:11,239 but it was so deep that it's just gonna take me a minute. 989 00:42:11,281 --> 00:42:14,451 I'm trying not to put up walls, but, like, my natural instinct 990 00:42:14,492 --> 00:42:16,911 is to be like, "Don't touch her." 991 00:42:16,953 --> 00:42:22,500 *** 992 00:42:22,542 --> 00:42:25,879 Next time on "The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City"... 993 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:27,547 Don't hit me. 994 00:42:27,589 --> 00:42:29,132 Yes! [laughs] 995 00:42:29,174 --> 00:42:31,092 [laughter] 996 00:42:31,134 --> 00:42:34,346 He said, "With Whitney being a public figure, 997 00:42:34,387 --> 00:42:37,265 it was gonna be a conflict of interest." 998 00:42:37,307 --> 00:42:40,560 Knowing I'm one of the reasons he got let go 999 00:42:40,602 --> 00:42:42,896 pisses me the [bleep] off. 1000 00:42:42,937 --> 00:42:44,356 Here they are. 1001 00:42:44,397 --> 00:42:45,982 -Hello! You look gorgeous. -Thank you. 1002 00:42:46,024 --> 00:42:47,942 Angie Harrington's husband 1003 00:42:47,984 --> 00:42:50,320 started an Instagram page called Shah Exposed. 1004 00:42:50,362 --> 00:42:53,865 That's a big ----ing deal. 1005 00:42:53,907 --> 00:42:56,951 When it comes to Angie, you need to be a little bit more aware 1006 00:42:56,993 --> 00:42:58,370 of what's going on. 1007 00:42:58,411 --> 00:43:00,288 [singsongy amplified voice] Who's ready to audition? 1008 00:43:00,330 --> 00:43:03,124 [cheering] 1009 00:43:03,166 --> 00:43:07,379 The last thing I expected was to see Angie Harrington here. 1010 00:43:07,420 --> 00:43:09,506 [laughter]