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Previously this season
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on "The Real Housewives
of Salt Lake City"...
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There's not a place
that I can go right now
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and sing spiritual
or non-spiritual songs
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with a community that I love.
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I know the amount of pressure
that you have on you.
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- You're writing a book.
- Yeah.
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I'm writing a book about leaving
the Mormon Church,
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and I decided to call it
"Bad Mormon."
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Chris Harrington started
an Instagram page
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called @shahXposed.
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In a very immature moment,
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I created a fake account.
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Which straw breaks
the camel's back?
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It's unbelievably serious to me,
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and I have
the most forgiving heart.
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- [gasps] Are you serious, Jen?
- Oh!
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Yeah, I'm serious.
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I was supposed to open up
my house,
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not open up my wallet, and you
haven't said a----ing word,
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not even a "thank you" card.
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Don't you ever----ing expect me
to have your----ing back.
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Don't!
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Suck her titties! Suck her...
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♪
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Do you really not remember?
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I remember how I got it.
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- You do?
- Yeah.
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And other people know how
I got it, too.
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The judge is pushing
the trial out till July.
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I'm just tired of people
questioning my innocence.
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I understand, baby.
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I'm not saying
that she's guilty,
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but there has to be something.
- I don't even let myself
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go there, because, then, like,
I have to believe she's innocent
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until they prove her guilty.
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Lisa, and I'm kinda
right there with you,
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because I've had people ask me
the same question.
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♪
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JEN: I'm fighting for my life,
not your approval.
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♪
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WHITNEY:
I am more of a free spirit
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without the Holy Spirit.
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♪
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LISA:
I'll always have your back
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if you stop stabbing me
in mine.
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MEREDITH: When I take a shot,
I always hit my mark.
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♪
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HEATHER:
I may be a bad Mormon,
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but I'll always be a good time.
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♪
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Author of the hour.
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- Hi.
- Hi.
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This is sick.
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Yeah. This is so rad.
This is so good.
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We're gonna brand these windows
with the name of the book,
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so that everybody knows. So it's
gonna be like a peek in--
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- Like, decals on the glass?
- Decals on the glass.
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- Okay.
- And I think, like,
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the views are great.
It's gonna be nighttime
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and, like, twinkly and great.
- I like the steam coming
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off the pool. That's pretty--
- Totally.
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I think we keep the book
right here.
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Okay, how big is it?
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It's 4 feet wide
and 6 feet tall.
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- It's pretty big.
- Oh, wow. That's big.
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Yeah.
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I remember when I first got
the email
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talking to me
about a possible book,
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and I've been working on it
for over a year,
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and we finally have
an actual cover,
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and it's a pretty big deal.
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- It's beautiful.
- The choir will be over here.
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- Okay. Oh, those are risers.
- And I think it's--
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It's just, like, built-in.
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Yeah, it's like a built-in riser
with a really sick view
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of the city.
- I love that.
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Is there a theme?
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- It is cocktail attire.
- Is the book out?
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Tonight is
the book cover reveal.
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- Is there a title?
-"Bad Mormon."
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[laughs] Oh, my gosh.
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That's such an impulse buy
at the airport for me.
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[laughs]
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♪
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Thanks for the tea.
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I just don't know if I'm gonna
be able to sing tonight.
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- I can barely hear myself.
- What?
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- Myself.
- Oh.
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♪
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Is it church hymns? Like, am I--
'Cause I'm gonna have some PTSD.
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Church hymns, yes.
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So cocktail attire
but potentially LDS hymns?
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Yeah, it doesn't make any sense.
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- [chuckles]
- But I auditioned for the choir,
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but then everything's that's
happened between Heather and I,
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I just decided, like,
I really don't have time
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to be in the choir,
nor do I really want to be,
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but I wanna support her.
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This is her healing.
This is her--
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Well, the fact that you would
even try out, Whitney,
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in a choir--props to you
for supporting your friend.
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Yeah.
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♪
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[bell tolls]
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♪
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Are you the bartenders
for the evening?
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It's probably good that
we get well acquainted
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before everyone gets here.
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Can I start
with a Sunbeam Spritzer?
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Because I think I'll be
probably at Outer Darkness
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sooner than I want to be.
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I really want tonight to be
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a night where we all get along
and, like, where everyone
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feels welcome
and no conflict erupts.
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And if there is a fight,
I would like it to occur
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right in front of
my "Bad Mormon" cover poster.
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[indistinct shouting echoes]
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[echoing] Shut the [bleep] up
about Mary!
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So if it doesn't go my way,
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I'm fully prepared
to exploit it.
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♪
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Aah!
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- I love you so much.
- I love you so much.
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- This is amazing.
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♪
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The choir is everything.
Wait till you hear us perform.
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- Hi!
- Well, congrats.
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- Thanks. Thanks for coming.
- I'm excited for you.
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- Thanks for having us.
- And thanks for singing.
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- Have you been practicing?
- I sing good in the shower,
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but it's not the same.
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♪ God be with us
till we meet again ♪
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And on a smooth, cool evening
with friends,
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just, like, celebrating
each other, you know?
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- Yeah.
- I think we can do that.
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- We can pull that off.
- Let's do that. We can do that.
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Let's go get you guys a drink.
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♪
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- Hey, guys.
- How are you?
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- Hey, Justin. Hi, Ange.
- You look gorgeous.
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- So do you.
- Hey, Shawn.
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- How are you?
- Well, well, well, look at you.
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Heather,
is that you in the light?
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Hi. Oh, my gosh.
In the light. Hi.
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Oh, my gosh, your eye
looks really good, Heather.
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Oh, just in case?
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I like your hair.
Your eye looks so much better.
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I know. It looks way better.
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Just, like, the memory of it...
I hope.
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The memory's never going away, Heather.
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I think it's gonna be the topic
of many conversations.
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I hope--I wanted it to be, like,
not the main issue,
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and now it's become
the only issue.
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If you want the attention,
divert it from your black eye
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and you don't want people
talking about it,
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just say what happened,
and then we'll all move on.
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It's like a big game
for Heather.
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I know it wasn't me! [laughs]
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Are we wearing the same thing?
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I mean, a little bit of, like,
lace-up.
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Hi. You look so pretty.
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I'm really glad
that Whitney showed up,
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but I feel like
it's tainted somehow.
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It's not that pure relationship
we once had
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where I could count on her
for anything,
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and we were in it together,
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and I'm hoping we can
get back there.
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- How y'all doing?
- I'm doing great.
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Yeah, it's great
to see you again.
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Hey! How are you?
The golden girl.
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- Aah!
- Hi! How are you?
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- Oh, my gosh! Hi!
- I love you. You look gorgeous.
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- Hi!
- You look amazing.
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Oh, my gosh. Hi.
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You guys, excuse me.
I'm just gonna say hi.
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- Those are all my cousins.
- Oh, your cousins.
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Other line of the family.
I'm gonna go say hi.
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- Hi!
- Hi!
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Hi. Hi. How are you guys? Hi.
Just come on. Roll through.
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How are you?
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This is a Sunbeam Spritzer.
You can tell my mom.
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These are my people.
This is my family.
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These are the girls that
showed up for me on ski day,
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that have continued
to show up for me
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while I'm writing a book called
"Bad Mormon,"
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and it means the world to me
that they would be interested
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in what I'm doing in my life.
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Do you think my mom's
gonna freak out,
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seeing that all you guys came
and she missed it?
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[laughs] Valerie, you don't
mince words, do you?
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You're in a tank top.
Like, maybe there's
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another bad Mormon in the group.
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Tonight is Greek Easter
at midnight, and--
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New beginnings, resurrection.
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I'm waking up today
in honor of Greek Easter,
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and I've had my eyes
open to Jen.
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I'm definitely planning on
talking to Jen tonight.
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Jen is putting out there
with people and suggesting
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that I'm the one that's
responsible for her eye.
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- That's ludicrous.
- She--
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- It is ludicrous.
- It's crazy.
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A friend told me
after the fashion show,
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Jen pulled our friend Jake aside
and told him,
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"Don't get too close to Angie,
because she's the one
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that punched Heather
in the eye."
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If she's trying to put rumors
out there
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because, you know,
and ruin my good name
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because hers is in the toilet,
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that is nothing I would even
be capable of doing.
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Why do you think Jen
is doing this?
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You know, once Jen turns on you
or feels that she has, you know,
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you have crossed her, she'll
forever be out to get you.
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This is the final straw for me
to go and say
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that I would actually hurt someone
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when she's been the violent one,
she's been the aggressive one.
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We've all seen it.
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Guess what? Everybody is saying
that perhaps her and Heather
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were in their room,
doing Barbie scissor kicks,
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and then Jen beat the sh--
out of her.
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- Barbie scissor kicks? [laughs]
- It's a little more believable.
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The Barbie scissor kicks
and then getting
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the sh-- beat out of her.
- Wait.
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- Yes.
- What do you mean
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by Barbie scissor kicks?
- Well, let's just say
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sounds like, you know,
people are asking me--
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- Like they're in a relationship?
- They're in the room having
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a sexual relationship
and then romping, bumping,
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and giving each other
a black eye after it,
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'cause maybe someone wasn't
very good in bed in the end.
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Who knows?
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I really don't think I like
this mental visual.
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Like, Heather, like,
how would this work? Like...
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when two girls come together
naked, heels on, heels off,
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and... you know.
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- That's a rumor?
- That's a rumor.
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♪
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Coming up...
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You know, we're just a few days
from trial.
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How are the boys doing?
248
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♪
249
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Romping, bumping, and giving
each other a black eye after it
250
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'cause maybe someone wasn't
very good in bed in the end.
251
00:10:39,639 --> 00:10:41,249
- Who knows?
- [laughs]
252
00:10:41,249 --> 00:10:43,730
♪
253
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I mean, they say every female's
three shots away
254
00:10:45,645 --> 00:10:47,734
from being a lesbian.
255
00:10:47,734 --> 00:10:50,301
♪
256
00:10:50,301 --> 00:10:52,913
Look, I can have these moments
where these glimmers of hope
257
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that I could move forward
with her, but she's not well.
258
00:10:55,698 --> 00:10:57,047
Hi!
259
00:10:57,047 --> 00:10:58,222
Oh, my gosh.
You look so beautiful.
260
00:10:58,222 --> 00:10:59,615
Speaking of--
Speaking of good dudes.
261
00:10:59,615 --> 00:11:01,138
So do you.
262
00:11:01,138 --> 00:11:02,400
We're gonna come right back, sweetie.
263
00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,011
- We'll be right back.
- We're gonna have
264
00:11:04,011 --> 00:11:05,795
a nice conversation real fast.
- Yes, we'd love to.
265
00:11:05,795 --> 00:11:08,276
♪
266
00:11:08,276 --> 00:11:10,234
I'm glad that we got
to see you guys tonight,
267
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'cause we've been wanting
to talk to y'all.
268
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[indistinct conversations]
269
00:11:15,979 --> 00:11:18,939
The things that were done
and what was put up,
270
00:11:18,939 --> 00:11:20,984
in order for me to find a path
271
00:11:20,984 --> 00:11:23,508
of reconciliation
and forgiveness,
272
00:11:23,508 --> 00:11:26,947
I need to hear from you.
273
00:11:26,947 --> 00:11:28,862
Oh, first of all, I thank you
274
00:11:28,862 --> 00:11:30,733
for being willing
to meet with us.
275
00:11:30,733 --> 00:11:36,043
Um... my heart--it hadn't...
276
00:11:36,043 --> 00:11:38,872
[indistinct conversations]
277
00:11:38,872 --> 00:11:40,830
Yeah, sorry.
278
00:11:40,830 --> 00:11:42,484
♪
279
00:11:42,484 --> 00:11:45,922
I think what he's trying to say
is as personal as it felt,
280
00:11:45,922 --> 00:11:49,186
I--it was not personal.
281
00:11:49,186 --> 00:11:51,319
♪
282
00:11:51,319 --> 00:11:53,887
And I understand.
I think we understand that--
283
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why it would feel so personal.
- Of course it would.
284
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It's your--
it's your family name.
285
00:11:57,978 --> 00:12:00,197
Of course, yeah, it's your
family name. of course.
286
00:12:00,197 --> 00:12:03,853
Thank you. Thank you.
And I accept your apology.
287
00:12:03,853 --> 00:12:06,203
Thank you.
288
00:12:06,203 --> 00:12:08,336
Aw.
289
00:12:10,773 --> 00:12:13,428
- Thank you.
- Love you.
290
00:12:13,428 --> 00:12:15,082
I'm so sorry.
291
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♪
292
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We're gonna start
our performance
293
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if you guys wanna make your way.
John and Seth, grab a drink
294
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and come watch the choir.
295
00:12:25,919 --> 00:12:27,964
- Thank you. Really?
- You really do.
296
00:12:27,964 --> 00:12:30,097
Not too slutty?
297
00:12:30,097 --> 00:12:32,839
- Are they singing? Should we go?
- Yeah.
298
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♪ Amazing grace
299
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♪ How sweet the sound
300
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♪ That saved a wretch like me
301
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I-I-I can't tell.
Am I on key? I have no idea.
302
00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,784
I know a lot of other people
aren't.
303
00:13:04,784 --> 00:13:10,050
♪ Shah-mazing grace
304
00:13:10,050 --> 00:13:11,660
♪ How sweet
305
00:13:11,660 --> 00:13:14,924
♪ Jen is
306
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I'm not the best singer,
307
00:13:16,404 --> 00:13:17,797
but knowing that I'm surrounded
by other singers,
308
00:13:17,797 --> 00:13:19,973
and my voice
will be drowned out...
309
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♪ Who saved
310
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♪ A wretch
311
00:13:24,107 --> 00:13:28,372
[voice warbling] ♪ Like me
312
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♪ But now I see
313
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[song ends,
cheers and applause]
314
00:13:37,729 --> 00:13:40,558
♪
315
00:13:40,558 --> 00:13:43,866
How about the Faux Tab choir?
316
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[cheers and applause]
317
00:13:45,868 --> 00:13:49,567
First, I wanna just thank
this beautiful choir
318
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for their willingness to fulfill
a weird wish I had,
319
00:13:53,310 --> 00:13:57,053
which was to create
a community in song
320
00:13:57,053 --> 00:14:00,056
without any
religious organization attached.
321
00:14:00,056 --> 00:14:02,972
And we're here to celebrate
this book,
322
00:14:02,972 --> 00:14:04,887
and so I've been thinking a lot
about, like,
323
00:14:04,887 --> 00:14:07,803
what it means to me and kind of
the changes I've been through
324
00:14:07,803 --> 00:14:09,326
in the last few years,
325
00:14:09,326 --> 00:14:11,502
but a scripture kept
coming to me.
326
00:14:11,502 --> 00:14:14,027
John 15:13--"Greater love
hath no man than this,
327
00:14:14,027 --> 00:14:16,812
that he lay down
his life for his friends."
328
00:14:16,812 --> 00:14:21,121
And that's the kind of friend
that I've always aspired to be,
329
00:14:21,121 --> 00:14:23,906
and I'm not great at it,
330
00:14:23,906 --> 00:14:29,390
but the intention is to always
be a ride-or-die for everyone.
331
00:14:29,390 --> 00:14:34,047
♪
332
00:14:34,047 --> 00:14:38,834
And if I am a bad Mormon,
I hope I can still just be
333
00:14:38,834 --> 00:14:41,706
a good friend, and thank you all
for coming tonight.
334
00:14:41,706 --> 00:14:45,536
[cheers and applause]
335
00:14:45,536 --> 00:14:46,755
Five...
336
00:14:46,755 --> 00:14:49,192
ALL:
Four... three... two... one!
337
00:14:49,192 --> 00:14:53,893
[cheers and applause]
338
00:14:53,893 --> 00:14:54,850
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
339
00:14:54,850 --> 00:14:56,330
Whoo! Whoo!
340
00:14:56,330 --> 00:14:57,722
Whoo!
341
00:14:59,463 --> 00:15:03,337
- [cheers and applause continue]
- Here we go! Whoo!
342
00:15:03,337 --> 00:15:06,209
Future "New York Times"
Best Seller.
343
00:15:06,209 --> 00:15:10,213
For a devout Mormon,
this cover is sacrilegious,
344
00:15:10,213 --> 00:15:13,477
blasphemous,
and terribly offensive.
345
00:15:13,477 --> 00:15:15,827
These are secrets
you don't reveal,
346
00:15:15,827 --> 00:15:18,221
and I'm not only revealing them,
347
00:15:18,221 --> 00:15:22,965
but I'm putting my face
on the cover of the book,
348
00:15:22,965 --> 00:15:26,969
and that's why I'm seeking grace
and support
349
00:15:26,969 --> 00:15:29,580
for those that aren't offended
by it.
350
00:15:29,580 --> 00:15:31,060
It's a great cover.
I'm just wondering, like,
351
00:15:31,060 --> 00:15:33,193
what's gonna go inside.
352
00:15:33,193 --> 00:15:35,935
Um, nothing like being invited
to a book party
353
00:15:35,935 --> 00:15:38,415
with no books for sale.
354
00:15:38,415 --> 00:15:40,069
You know, it's like me having
a Vida Tequila party
355
00:15:40,069 --> 00:15:42,854
with no tequila. It's crazy.
356
00:15:42,854 --> 00:15:46,293
♪
357
00:15:46,293 --> 00:15:49,078
Oh, my gosh.
I think I look so tan.
358
00:15:49,078 --> 00:15:50,950
♪
359
00:15:50,950 --> 00:15:52,429
[laughs]
360
00:15:52,429 --> 00:15:56,390
Oh, I don't know.
I feel like I should.
361
00:15:56,390 --> 00:15:57,826
I just happen to like myself.
There is nothing wrong...
362
00:15:57,826 --> 00:15:59,436
- You should write a book.
- ...with liking myself
363
00:15:59,436 --> 00:16:01,525
and being confident.
- I won't read it.
364
00:16:01,525 --> 00:16:05,660
These are Carver--
we're Carver cousins. Carvers.
365
00:16:05,660 --> 00:16:06,617
Hey, Whitney.
366
00:16:06,617 --> 00:16:09,272
- Jen.
- Hi. You look pretty.
367
00:16:09,272 --> 00:16:11,100
So do you, babe. Hi, Sharrieff.
368
00:16:11,100 --> 00:16:13,189
Hi, Whitney. How are you doing?
369
00:16:13,189 --> 00:16:16,366
Jen and I literally haven't
talked since the trip,
370
00:16:16,366 --> 00:16:18,934
and I feel like we took
a few steps back in San Diego.
371
00:16:18,934 --> 00:16:20,631
Okay, here's--here, you want me
to break it down for you?
372
00:16:20,631 --> 00:16:21,806
'Cause you wanna know?
You want--
373
00:16:21,806 --> 00:16:24,374
You're digging? You wanna know?
374
00:16:24,374 --> 00:16:25,723
- I'm not digging. I'm asking...
- I tried--I committed--
375
00:16:25,723 --> 00:16:27,421
I tried to commit suicide,
and then Sharrieff
376
00:16:27,421 --> 00:16:29,640
had to take me to the hospital.
Is that what you wanted to know?
377
00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,774
'Cause you wanna dig
and dig and dig.
378
00:16:32,774 --> 00:16:35,472
After the trip, from San Diego,
I feel like we went into it,
379
00:16:35,472 --> 00:16:38,475
like, in a very good place, united.
380
00:16:38,475 --> 00:16:42,044
- We did, absolutely.
- Yeah. I felt it flip-flopped.
381
00:16:42,044 --> 00:16:46,005
Once you got with, like,
Heather and the group,
382
00:16:46,005 --> 00:16:47,832
it felt like it ganged up on me.
383
00:16:47,832 --> 00:16:50,661
♪
384
00:16:50,661 --> 00:16:53,316
I knew we had moments,
but I in no way felt like
385
00:16:53,316 --> 00:16:57,190
there was an issue
or that I was coming at you.
386
00:16:57,190 --> 00:16:58,974
I need to have an opportunity
to talk to Jen.
387
00:16:58,974 --> 00:17:00,671
♪
388
00:17:02,978 --> 00:17:06,851
♪
389
00:17:06,851 --> 00:17:09,028
Well, I-I had no idea
that you felt like that.
390
00:17:09,028 --> 00:17:10,377
Like, yeah.
391
00:17:10,377 --> 00:17:11,856
All right, let me go see
what's going on over here.
392
00:17:11,856 --> 00:17:13,684
Yeah.
393
00:17:13,684 --> 00:17:16,948
One on one, Jen,
you are so amazing, so much fun.
394
00:17:16,948 --> 00:17:20,039
Hi.
395
00:17:20,039 --> 00:17:22,780
In San Diego,
the Jen that I built a--
396
00:17:22,780 --> 00:17:25,435
what I thought was
a strong relationship with,
397
00:17:25,435 --> 00:17:27,959
I just felt like she wasn't
there on the trip.
398
00:17:27,959 --> 00:17:30,136
- And I didn't feel like that.
- Just so you guys know--
399
00:17:30,136 --> 00:17:31,702
The Heather thing--
400
00:17:31,702 --> 00:17:34,531
Well, and you know what?
You're--you have very--
401
00:17:34,531 --> 00:17:35,967
- You have reason to.
- Jen, they have had to--
402
00:17:35,967 --> 00:17:37,273
Everybody--Everybody is having
feelings about you.
403
00:17:37,273 --> 00:17:39,493
Angie, I'm--I'm talking
to Lisa right now.
404
00:17:39,493 --> 00:17:43,453
I do owe you an explanation
for some things,
405
00:17:43,453 --> 00:17:45,716
but going into the trip--
- There's--There's something--
406
00:17:45,716 --> 00:17:47,066
- Going into the trip--
- Okay, Jen,
407
00:17:47,066 --> 00:17:48,719
let's stop talking
about the trip for a minute.
408
00:17:48,719 --> 00:17:50,025
- No, no, no, she's--
-'Cause there's something major.
409
00:17:50,025 --> 00:17:51,331
- No, she's t--
- No, I'm just pointing it out.
410
00:17:51,331 --> 00:17:52,897
- That--that's my...
- Yeah, this is great.
411
00:17:52,897 --> 00:17:54,421
Let me finish. Let me finish.
412
00:17:54,421 --> 00:17:57,902
Give it all her spin and stroke.
Okay, wrap it up.
413
00:17:57,902 --> 00:18:00,470
♪
414
00:18:03,995 --> 00:18:08,826
♪
415
00:18:08,826 --> 00:18:10,915
- No, she's t--
- I'm just pointing it out.
416
00:18:10,915 --> 00:18:13,614
- That--that's my--
- Yeah, this is great.
417
00:18:13,614 --> 00:18:15,224
Let me finish.
Let me finish talking.
418
00:18:15,224 --> 00:18:17,966
Give it all her spin and stroke.
Okay, wrap it up.
419
00:18:17,966 --> 00:18:19,185
I was talking to Whitney,
420
00:18:19,185 --> 00:18:20,969
and then everyone
just jumped over here.
421
00:18:20,969 --> 00:18:23,450
Go eavesdrop on that convo. I do
not wanna be a part of that.
422
00:18:23,450 --> 00:18:24,929
I have to go to the restroom.
Where is my purse?
423
00:18:24,929 --> 00:18:26,757
- I'm trying to be respectful...
- Jen, Jen, Jen...
424
00:18:26,757 --> 00:18:28,281
...and finish this conversation
right now.
425
00:18:28,281 --> 00:18:29,804
You are going around
spreading rumors
426
00:18:29,804 --> 00:18:31,893
that I gave Heather
a black eye.
427
00:18:31,893 --> 00:18:33,808
You went and told somebody
that I'm responsible
428
00:18:33,808 --> 00:18:35,157
for Heather's black eye.
429
00:18:35,157 --> 00:18:36,811
That is a lie.
I never said that.
430
00:18:36,811 --> 00:18:38,900
You didn't say anything about me
giving Heather a black eye...
431
00:18:38,900 --> 00:18:40,467
- No, I did not.
- ...or being involved
432
00:18:40,467 --> 00:18:41,642
in her black eye?
- I never said one thing
433
00:18:41,642 --> 00:18:43,992
about you giving Heather
a black eye.
434
00:18:43,992 --> 00:18:45,124
That is not true.
435
00:18:45,124 --> 00:18:46,821
Oh, what's happening?
436
00:18:46,821 --> 00:18:48,953
Sharrieff, can you come here, please?
437
00:18:48,953 --> 00:18:50,216
Yeah.
438
00:18:50,216 --> 00:18:53,219
Coach, she gets abusive
and bully-like
439
00:18:53,219 --> 00:18:55,395
to people like me
who have had her back.
440
00:18:55,395 --> 00:18:57,397
You know, Angie,
she's telling me
441
00:18:57,397 --> 00:18:59,486
that this girl has pushed her
to the brink of suicide,
442
00:18:59,486 --> 00:19:01,009
so I have her back.
443
00:19:01,009 --> 00:19:03,707
And then now everything's, like,
was it even real?
444
00:19:05,274 --> 00:19:08,625
Like, did she really push you
to that, or is it all fake?
445
00:19:08,625 --> 00:19:11,976
Oh, please tell her!
Are you serious?
446
00:19:11,976 --> 00:19:15,197
- Was it real?! Yes, tell her!
- That she almost died?
447
00:19:15,197 --> 00:19:16,851
- That's a rumor?!
- Okay, whoa, whoa, whoa.
448
00:19:16,851 --> 00:19:18,244
- Go around... That's suicide.
- That--that was real?
449
00:19:18,244 --> 00:19:19,680
- That was very, very real.
- That she almost died?
450
00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,334
That she tried to commit
suicide? What was--
451
00:19:21,334 --> 00:19:22,509
No, I didn't say it wasn't real
she almost died.
452
00:19:22,509 --> 00:19:23,727
Were her feelings against
this woman real?
453
00:19:23,727 --> 00:19:26,861
- Absolutely real.
- I was there during it.
454
00:19:26,861 --> 00:19:28,079
[bleep] this.
455
00:19:28,079 --> 00:19:31,170
I have never met anybody
in my----ing life
456
00:19:31,170 --> 00:19:33,302
as evil and disgusting
as Angie K.,
457
00:19:33,302 --> 00:19:35,261
because you don't do that sh--.
458
00:19:35,261 --> 00:19:38,046
You don't question someone's
mental health
459
00:19:38,046 --> 00:19:39,874
or suicide attempts.
460
00:19:39,874 --> 00:19:41,658
That is beyond----ed up.
461
00:19:41,658 --> 00:19:45,314
I don't want a----ing camera
in my face.
462
00:19:45,314 --> 00:19:48,143
♪
463
00:19:48,143 --> 00:19:50,885
And I think it's healthy
for them to all have peace.
464
00:19:50,885 --> 00:19:52,234
- Of course it is.
- But it's hard for me to trust
465
00:19:52,234 --> 00:19:54,541
because she flip-flops
on everything.
466
00:19:54,541 --> 00:19:56,369
She flip-flopped about you.
467
00:19:56,369 --> 00:19:57,892
She obviously said something
468
00:19:57,892 --> 00:20:00,024
about me having involvement
with your black eye.
469
00:20:00,024 --> 00:20:01,765
She also said that
a spider laid eggs in my eye.
470
00:20:01,765 --> 00:20:04,028
Yes, there was a lot
of great stories.
471
00:20:04,028 --> 00:20:06,466
Do you want peace with Jen,
or do you wanna be--
472
00:20:06,466 --> 00:20:08,555
- Peace is great.
- What is your objective here?
473
00:20:08,555 --> 00:20:10,078
There's no way to move forward
with her.
474
00:20:10,078 --> 00:20:13,734
I'm telling you, 'cause it will
just keep coming back.
475
00:20:13,734 --> 00:20:14,822
♪
476
00:20:14,822 --> 00:20:16,040
Baby, let's go.
477
00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:17,085
All right, we're gonna take off.
478
00:20:17,085 --> 00:20:19,174
You are?
479
00:20:19,174 --> 00:20:22,786
♪
480
00:20:23,961 --> 00:20:30,751
♪
481
00:20:30,751 --> 00:20:31,969
Thank you so much.
It was so wonderful.
482
00:20:31,969 --> 00:20:34,885
You did great.
Thank you, thank you.
483
00:20:37,410 --> 00:20:39,238
This is one
of many performances,
484
00:20:39,238 --> 00:20:41,152
so this is just the beginning.
We're gonna do it again.
485
00:20:41,152 --> 00:20:43,764
- I can't wait to read your book!
- I'll write another book.
486
00:20:43,764 --> 00:20:52,294
♪
487
00:20:52,294 --> 00:20:53,687
Ooh, is my hair gonna burn?
488
00:20:53,687 --> 00:20:55,950
Part of it's synthetic.
[laughs]
489
00:20:55,950 --> 00:21:04,393
♪
490
00:21:04,393 --> 00:21:05,742
It was so fun to look out
491
00:21:05,742 --> 00:21:08,136
and see you and Justin singing.
[laughs]
492
00:21:08,136 --> 00:21:09,137
Couldn't help it.
493
00:21:09,137 --> 00:21:17,145
♪
494
00:21:17,145 --> 00:21:18,320
You wanna get a drink?
495
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,148
- Yes.
- Okay.
496
00:21:20,148 --> 00:21:28,678
♪
497
00:21:35,032 --> 00:21:37,948
[ominous music playing]
498
00:21:37,948 --> 00:21:41,169
♪
499
00:21:41,169 --> 00:21:42,475
[bell tolls]
500
00:21:42,475 --> 00:21:45,478
Oh, my gosh. I can't believe
the day is here.
501
00:21:45,478 --> 00:21:49,438
- I know.
- Yeah.
502
00:21:49,438 --> 00:21:53,529
It's surreal for me
because I'm like,
503
00:21:53,529 --> 00:21:55,401
the next time
that I come home...
504
00:21:57,533 --> 00:22:00,362
I'll either be guilty
or innocent.
505
00:22:00,362 --> 00:22:03,844
You'll be innocent.
We know that, right?
506
00:22:08,892 --> 00:22:10,851
[voice breaking]
I wish dad was here to help,
507
00:22:10,851 --> 00:22:13,897
just I would just feel better.
508
00:22:13,897 --> 00:22:16,726
Remember what Grandma
and everybody has always said?
509
00:22:16,726 --> 00:22:20,077
In the Hawaiian culture
and the Tongan culture,
510
00:22:20,077 --> 00:22:23,080
you're always surrounded
by your ancestors.
511
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:24,952
[sniffles]
They're always around you,
512
00:22:24,952 --> 00:22:29,391
but when you call their name,
they're right next to you.
513
00:22:29,391 --> 00:22:32,525
So when you walk
into that courtroom,
514
00:22:32,525 --> 00:22:35,223
before you walk in, you call.
515
00:22:35,223 --> 00:22:37,878
You call your grandma
and your grandpa and your dad
516
00:22:37,878 --> 00:22:42,404
and everybody, and they'll be
right there with you.
517
00:22:45,015 --> 00:22:47,409
My mom is somebody
I lean on a lot.
518
00:22:47,409 --> 00:22:49,368
She's so supportive...
519
00:22:49,368 --> 00:22:51,848
[voice breaking] and I don't
tell her thank you enough.
520
00:22:51,848 --> 00:22:55,156
It made me cry, you know,
when you were like,
521
00:22:55,156 --> 00:22:57,898
"I'm gonna cash out
my retirement accounts.
522
00:22:57,898 --> 00:23:01,075
I'm gonna give you this money
and this cash
523
00:23:01,075 --> 00:23:02,859
and put up these properties,
and..."
524
00:23:02,859 --> 00:23:06,733
Well, sweetheart... [sighs]
You're innocent,
525
00:23:06,733 --> 00:23:10,693
and I'm gonna do whatever I can,
and I'll tell you what.
526
00:23:12,478 --> 00:23:14,305
How can I enjoy life if things
527
00:23:14,305 --> 00:23:17,004
don't go right for you,
you know what I'm saying?
528
00:23:18,266 --> 00:23:22,052
The trial has been pushed
five times, and...
529
00:23:22,052 --> 00:23:25,534
♪
530
00:23:25,534 --> 00:23:27,406
...it's like, wow,
it's finally here.
531
00:23:27,406 --> 00:23:30,278
Like, this is... it--
this is it.
532
00:23:30,278 --> 00:23:32,933
Like, it's really happening.
533
00:23:32,933 --> 00:23:35,631
Should check on Omar tonight,
all right?
534
00:23:35,631 --> 00:23:36,893
[exhales deeply]
I know. I will.
535
00:23:36,893 --> 00:23:40,636
- Love you, Mom.
- Mm, my goodness.
536
00:23:40,636 --> 00:23:44,901
Like, everything is real
right now.
537
00:23:44,901 --> 00:23:47,556
- Love you guys. Be safe.
- Love you. Yes, ma'am.
538
00:23:47,556 --> 00:23:50,124
♪
539
00:23:50,124 --> 00:23:51,908
[car door closes]
540
00:23:51,908 --> 00:23:54,041
♪
541
00:23:54,041 --> 00:23:55,651
[sniffles] Bye.
542
00:23:55,651 --> 00:24:05,661
♪
543
00:24:05,661 --> 00:24:07,707
[voice echoing]
I need to go to the house?
544
00:24:07,707 --> 00:24:11,798
♪
545
00:24:11,798 --> 00:24:13,756
[police radio chatter]
546
00:24:13,756 --> 00:24:17,630
I want a big----ing "I'm sorry"
547
00:24:17,630 --> 00:24:19,327
and "I'm a piece of sh--"
from them
548
00:24:19,327 --> 00:24:21,503
when I'm proven innocent...
[voice echoing] proven innocent.
549
00:24:21,503 --> 00:24:25,246
The success rate of
the New York State Attorney
550
00:24:25,246 --> 00:24:28,205
is, like, 95%. Is that--
551
00:24:28,205 --> 00:24:30,294
Because people take plea deals.
552
00:24:30,294 --> 00:24:32,993
If the absolute unthinkable
happened,
553
00:24:32,993 --> 00:24:35,125
and you were found guilty...
554
00:24:35,125 --> 00:24:36,344
I'm innocent!
555
00:24:36,344 --> 00:24:37,693
...now we have to--
556
00:24:37,693 --> 00:24:39,826
we have to be able
to talk about that, too.
557
00:24:39,826 --> 00:24:42,872
You've had all of us
supporting you.
558
00:24:42,872 --> 00:24:45,614
You'll be innocent.
We know that, right?
559
00:24:45,614 --> 00:24:48,095
♪
560
00:24:48,095 --> 00:24:52,534
[roaring]
561
00:24:52,534 --> 00:24:56,973
♪
562
00:24:56,973 --> 00:25:01,717
[siren wailing in distance]
563
00:25:01,717 --> 00:25:29,310
♪
564
00:25:29,310 --> 00:25:30,920
[siren wails in distance]
565
00:25:35,185 --> 00:25:38,624
♪
566
00:25:38,624 --> 00:25:42,584
[siren wailing in distance]
567
00:25:42,584 --> 00:25:44,760
♪
568
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,762
[knock on door]
569
00:25:46,762 --> 00:25:50,810
♪
570
00:25:50,810 --> 00:25:52,942
- Hi.
- Hi.
571
00:25:52,942 --> 00:25:54,553
- How are you?
- I'm good. How are you?
572
00:25:54,553 --> 00:25:57,120
I'm okay.
573
00:25:57,120 --> 00:26:01,821
I'm glad to see you.
Sit down. Take a load off.
574
00:26:01,821 --> 00:26:04,475
What's our game plan?
575
00:26:04,475 --> 00:26:05,955
I think honestly, for her,
576
00:26:05,955 --> 00:26:09,959
I think just physically
having us here is just huge.
577
00:26:09,959 --> 00:26:13,180
And there really isn't
that much else we can do.
578
00:26:13,180 --> 00:26:17,750
- I know. I feel helpless.
- You know?
579
00:26:17,750 --> 00:26:22,972
Over the last year,
since Jen's arrest,
580
00:26:22,972 --> 00:26:26,019
things have changed a lot
for her.
581
00:26:26,019 --> 00:26:28,238
This is a lot of pressure,
582
00:26:28,238 --> 00:26:34,636
and it's... the time where
you rise to the occasion
583
00:26:34,636 --> 00:26:37,987
to support those around you.
584
00:26:37,987 --> 00:26:39,902
I saw her right before she left,
585
00:26:39,902 --> 00:26:44,559
and it was the most serious
and, like, heavy convo
586
00:26:44,559 --> 00:26:46,213
we've probably ever had.
587
00:26:46,213 --> 00:26:48,389
I mean, I need to ask you
something seriously.
588
00:26:48,389 --> 00:26:49,651
I'm being serious, though.
589
00:26:49,651 --> 00:26:51,479
[voice breaking]
If the worst thing happens,
590
00:26:51,479 --> 00:26:52,915
and I'm found guilty,
591
00:26:52,915 --> 00:26:55,962
like... [sniffles] can you
please check on my family
592
00:26:55,962 --> 00:26:58,965
and make sure Coach is okay,
make sure Omar and Rieffy
593
00:26:58,965 --> 00:27:01,358
and, like...
- Of course.
594
00:27:01,358 --> 00:27:02,664
[sniffles] Let them know
how much I love them,
595
00:27:02,664 --> 00:27:04,100
how proud I am every day
and just--
596
00:27:04,100 --> 00:27:05,232
Jen--
597
00:27:05,232 --> 00:27:06,581
I just wanna make sure
they're okay.
598
00:27:06,581 --> 00:27:09,018
We are gonna be here for you
and for your family.
599
00:27:09,018 --> 00:27:11,891
I'm scared, Heather. Okay?
I'm scared.
600
00:27:11,891 --> 00:27:14,110
Like... [crying]
601
00:27:14,110 --> 00:27:17,723
It will really kill me
if I'm away from my family.
602
00:27:17,723 --> 00:27:21,465
- She's really scared.
- She has to be.
603
00:27:23,903 --> 00:27:28,255
♪
604
00:27:28,255 --> 00:27:31,301
[knock on door]
605
00:27:31,301 --> 00:27:33,564
- [gasps]
606
00:27:33,564 --> 00:27:35,001
- Hi.
- Hi.
607
00:27:35,001 --> 00:27:38,831
- How you doing?
- Mm.
608
00:27:44,619 --> 00:27:46,403
How are you?
609
00:27:49,537 --> 00:27:51,147
I'm happy to see you guys.
610
00:27:51,147 --> 00:27:54,324
We're so happy to be here.
611
00:27:54,324 --> 00:27:57,240
♪
612
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,895
- Hi, Coach.
- Hi, guys.
613
00:27:59,895 --> 00:28:01,157
- Hello.
614
00:28:01,157 --> 00:28:03,638
- Hi.
- Mm. So good to see you.
615
00:28:03,638 --> 00:28:05,901
- So good to see you, baby.
- It's good to see you.
616
00:28:05,901 --> 00:28:08,512
Ma'am, thank you.
617
00:28:08,512 --> 00:28:10,036
- Thank you.
- [exhales deeply] This is nice.
618
00:28:10,036 --> 00:28:12,821
Thank you. Go ahead, baby.
You can sit there, yeah.
619
00:28:12,821 --> 00:28:14,475
- You can...
- The troops have arrived.
620
00:28:14,475 --> 00:28:17,043
- Yeah.
- [laughs]
621
00:28:17,043 --> 00:28:18,261
So many people have said,
622
00:28:18,261 --> 00:28:20,611
"Oh, I'm gonna be there
for you, Jen,"
623
00:28:20,611 --> 00:28:22,788
but, like, who's actually here?
624
00:28:22,788 --> 00:28:27,140
Who got on a plane? Who is here
to show support and love?
625
00:28:27,140 --> 00:28:28,576
It's Heather and Meredith.
626
00:28:28,576 --> 00:28:30,839
It's like having the cavalry
show up for you
627
00:28:30,839 --> 00:28:35,365
to help you fight where it's
giving me the support I need
628
00:28:35,365 --> 00:28:39,108
to help me prepare
for what's ahead.
629
00:28:39,108 --> 00:28:40,849
Where's your husband?
That's my man.
630
00:28:40,849 --> 00:28:42,198
- He's working.
- Is he?
631
00:28:42,198 --> 00:28:44,113
- He's here though.
- Yeah?
632
00:28:44,113 --> 00:28:47,377
- He's gonna get some work done.
- All right, all right.
633
00:28:47,377 --> 00:28:50,511
You know, we're just a few days
from trial.
634
00:28:50,511 --> 00:28:53,906
How are the boys doing?
635
00:28:53,906 --> 00:28:57,431
♪
636
00:28:57,431 --> 00:29:01,043
We've had
such painful conversations.
637
00:29:01,043 --> 00:29:04,133
I've had 'em with both my sons.
638
00:29:04,133 --> 00:29:07,136
If the absolute unthinkable happened,
639
00:29:07,136 --> 00:29:10,661
and you were found guilty,
640
00:29:10,661 --> 00:29:14,970
now we have to--we have to be
able to talk about that, too.
641
00:29:14,970 --> 00:29:17,973
We're gonna be fine.
We want a certain outcome,
642
00:29:17,973 --> 00:29:20,062
but regardless, God is with us.
643
00:29:20,062 --> 00:29:22,282
I know that we'll be fine.
644
00:29:26,982 --> 00:29:29,158
What do you have going on today?
What's up today?
645
00:29:29,158 --> 00:29:31,813
So we have to go
to Priya's office
646
00:29:31,813 --> 00:29:33,554
just to touch base,
go over strategy,
647
00:29:33,554 --> 00:29:37,863
and meet before
the pre-trial hearing.
648
00:29:37,863 --> 00:29:41,823
Okay, why don't we, um, meet up
and figure out a plan?
649
00:29:41,823 --> 00:29:43,303
- Yeah.
- Thank you.
650
00:29:43,303 --> 00:29:44,565
You guys, oh,
we're thinking of you.
651
00:29:44,565 --> 00:29:46,828
- I love you so much.
- More meetings.
652
00:29:46,828 --> 00:29:54,009
♪
653
00:29:54,009 --> 00:29:56,795
[siren wailing in distance]
654
00:29:56,795 --> 00:30:00,581
And look at the pretty
hydrangeas. That's beautiful.
655
00:30:00,581 --> 00:30:03,758
♪
656
00:30:03,758 --> 00:30:04,846
- Hi. How are you?
- Hello.
657
00:30:04,846 --> 00:30:07,327
We have a reservation for three. Marks.
658
00:30:07,327 --> 00:30:09,372
- Correct.
- I got us right down.
659
00:30:09,372 --> 00:30:11,940
- Good. Thank you. How are you?
- You got us the best table?
660
00:30:11,940 --> 00:30:13,376
Gorgeous.
661
00:30:13,376 --> 00:30:15,030
Can I get a mojito
but not frozen?
662
00:30:15,030 --> 00:30:16,640
- Sure.
- The Froze. I'll try that.
663
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:21,689
- Good.
- I'll do the... Stress Reliever.
664
00:30:21,689 --> 00:30:23,560
- [laughs]
- I didn't know it wasn't right.
665
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:27,869
Couldn't wait to have lunch
with Coach Shah.
666
00:30:27,869 --> 00:30:30,872
I feel bad that
it didn't work out.
667
00:30:30,872 --> 00:30:33,353
You guys have shown up for Jen.
I wanna show up for Coach.
668
00:30:33,353 --> 00:30:34,789
I was looking forward
to going out with him
669
00:30:34,789 --> 00:30:36,573
and talking to him, but...
670
00:30:36,573 --> 00:30:39,925
I mean, I know it's all
about Jen, as it should be,
671
00:30:39,925 --> 00:30:41,709
but it's how he doing?
672
00:30:41,709 --> 00:30:46,192
He is having a tough time.
It is a lot.
673
00:30:50,413 --> 00:30:52,589
And he's a husband
and, like, an attorney.
674
00:30:52,589 --> 00:30:56,767
You know, he's like, business
and emotional support, you know?
675
00:30:56,767 --> 00:30:58,073
Yeah.
676
00:30:58,073 --> 00:30:59,379
You see him with his glasses
on that laptop.
677
00:30:59,379 --> 00:31:00,902
Yes, she said
he's reading every law document.
678
00:31:00,902 --> 00:31:02,425
- He's reading everything.
- Everything.
679
00:31:02,425 --> 00:31:04,253
They got the witness list
and saw all the former people
680
00:31:04,253 --> 00:31:06,125
in their lives that
are gonna be testifying,
681
00:31:06,125 --> 00:31:07,430
and they also got
little excerpts
682
00:31:07,430 --> 00:31:09,606
of what they're going to say.
683
00:31:11,478 --> 00:31:13,697
And he said it was
really hard to hear
684
00:31:13,697 --> 00:31:16,787
and really hard to read
all these things about Jen.
685
00:31:16,787 --> 00:31:19,486
It's incomprehensible.
686
00:31:19,486 --> 00:31:21,096
- Right?
- That is--that's why
687
00:31:21,096 --> 00:31:23,359
I think there's the strain, yeah.
688
00:31:25,231 --> 00:31:28,712
This thing's coming like
a freight train right now.
689
00:31:28,712 --> 00:31:31,585
She's either gonna be
free and innocent,
690
00:31:31,585 --> 00:31:35,545
or the reality, God forbid,
she's found guilty...
691
00:31:35,545 --> 00:31:38,461
But her worst fear is that
she'll not only be guilty,
692
00:31:38,461 --> 00:31:40,855
but that she'll be sentenced
to serve time in a facility
693
00:31:40,855 --> 00:31:43,771
and be taken away
from her family.
694
00:31:43,771 --> 00:31:47,557
♪
695
00:31:47,557 --> 00:31:48,994
How many defendants were there?
There were a bunch, right?
696
00:31:48,994 --> 00:31:50,691
Quite a few.
697
00:31:50,691 --> 00:31:53,433
But they all pled guilty, right?
698
00:31:53,433 --> 00:31:56,001
Nobody is disputing
that the scheme happened.
699
00:31:56,001 --> 00:31:57,437
Yeah.
700
00:31:57,437 --> 00:32:00,831
The question stems
from Jen's involvement.
701
00:32:00,831 --> 00:32:05,749
Did she have knowledge
of what was going on?
702
00:32:05,749 --> 00:32:07,229
- Does she even know?
- There's no proof.
703
00:32:07,229 --> 00:32:10,537
So there you go, but this is not
a small, like, thing
704
00:32:10,537 --> 00:32:13,801
where you could be facing,
you know, six months in prison.
705
00:32:13,801 --> 00:32:16,630
This is a major, major trial.
706
00:32:16,630 --> 00:32:20,329
♪
707
00:32:20,329 --> 00:32:24,725
Have either
of you ever asked Jen...
708
00:32:24,725 --> 00:32:28,859
if she's guilty
of any of these charges?
709
00:32:28,859 --> 00:32:34,343
♪
710
00:32:38,304 --> 00:32:42,830
♪
711
00:32:42,830 --> 00:32:46,529
Have either of
you ever asked Jen...
712
00:32:46,529 --> 00:32:50,229
if she's guilty
of any of these charges?
713
00:32:50,229 --> 00:32:57,149
♪
714
00:32:57,149 --> 00:32:58,280
When your friend looks you
in the eyes
715
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,065
and says,
"I'm innocent of this,"
716
00:33:00,065 --> 00:33:01,240
you say,
"Then I will support you
717
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,590
in whatever path
you're gonna take."
718
00:33:07,376 --> 00:33:10,640
God forbid she is guilty,
719
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,904
are you still
ride-or-die friend?
720
00:33:13,904 --> 00:33:15,732
♪
721
00:33:15,732 --> 00:33:19,519
If, in fact, Jen is proclaiming
her innocence
722
00:33:19,519 --> 00:33:22,522
when she's really guilty
and not taking accountability
723
00:33:22,522 --> 00:33:25,612
to the victims of what she did,
724
00:33:25,612 --> 00:33:30,095
that's a really big problem
for me.
725
00:33:30,095 --> 00:33:33,489
♪
726
00:33:33,489 --> 00:33:35,143
When all is said and done
727
00:33:35,143 --> 00:33:38,016
and Jen can talk freely
about this,
728
00:33:38,016 --> 00:33:41,280
I would love to sit down
and understand what went on,
729
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,892
but I don't want to know while
there is an open trial pending.
730
00:33:44,892 --> 00:33:49,418
All that's going to do is put me
in a position where
731
00:33:49,418 --> 00:33:51,290
I could end up being questioned.
732
00:33:51,290 --> 00:33:53,857
I have no interest in that.
733
00:33:55,729 --> 00:33:57,818
You just--you believe the people
you love.
734
00:33:57,818 --> 00:34:01,648
I mean, take a moment right now
and, like, look around
735
00:34:01,648 --> 00:34:04,607
and see how beautiful it is
and how peaceful,
736
00:34:04,607 --> 00:34:08,568
and then consider
the circumstances
737
00:34:08,568 --> 00:34:13,268
that we're here under,
and it's heartbreaking.
738
00:34:20,014 --> 00:34:32,853
♪
739
00:34:32,853 --> 00:34:35,638
Here's some snacks.
740
00:34:35,638 --> 00:34:37,510
Oh, we have Sour Patch Kids.
741
00:34:37,510 --> 00:34:41,035
All right,
so you're feeling better?
742
00:34:41,035 --> 00:34:42,863
Um, I don't like how
you handed that to me.
743
00:34:42,863 --> 00:34:46,954
I know. It's because I am, like,
have lost my hostess skills.
744
00:34:46,954 --> 00:34:48,651
I'm sorry.
745
00:34:48,651 --> 00:34:51,045
Tell us about the day.
What happened?
746
00:34:51,045 --> 00:34:53,526
The hardest part for me
this week has been
747
00:34:53,526 --> 00:34:55,484
somebody that I trusted,
748
00:34:55,484 --> 00:34:57,921
that I made sure that
he didn't lose his job
749
00:34:57,921 --> 00:35:01,447
five times at the company
we worked for,
750
00:35:01,447 --> 00:35:03,013
made sure that his kids
were put through school,
751
00:35:03,013 --> 00:35:05,625
made sure he had food
on his table,
752
00:35:05,625 --> 00:35:07,844
what's been the hardest for me
this week is to learn that
753
00:35:07,844 --> 00:35:12,110
that----ing person
has turned on me,
754
00:35:12,110 --> 00:35:15,374
and now I just read this sh--
that he said.
755
00:35:15,374 --> 00:35:17,724
♪
756
00:35:17,724 --> 00:35:21,249
Stuart's a piece
of----ing sh--.
757
00:35:21,249 --> 00:35:23,208
♪
758
00:35:23,208 --> 00:35:25,514
And you know what?
He can play the,
759
00:35:25,514 --> 00:35:27,734
"Oh, I'm little Stuart Smith."
760
00:35:27,734 --> 00:35:29,910
No, bitch,
you're an evil mother----er,
761
00:35:29,910 --> 00:35:31,607
and you played me.
762
00:35:31,607 --> 00:35:35,872
I would not be in this thing
at all if it wasn't for Stuart.
763
00:35:35,872 --> 00:35:39,137
Stuart----ing played me.
764
00:35:39,137 --> 00:35:40,529
I feed you while you work.
765
00:35:40,529 --> 00:35:42,792
While you make me money,
I feed you.
766
00:35:45,578 --> 00:35:46,579
It's good. It's a good day.
767
00:35:46,579 --> 00:35:48,755
Okay. Make money.
Eat your banana.
768
00:35:48,755 --> 00:35:50,583
You see the progress
over the last year and a half
769
00:35:50,583 --> 00:35:52,628
where Stuart's like,
"Jen didn't know anything.
770
00:35:52,628 --> 00:35:55,022
Jen didn't know anything.
Jen's not involved in this.
771
00:35:55,022 --> 00:35:56,502
Nope, she's not."
772
00:35:56,502 --> 00:36:00,070
Then all of a sudden,
he pleads guilty.
773
00:36:00,070 --> 00:36:03,639
And so for me to finally
see all this information
774
00:36:03,639 --> 00:36:05,554
and be like, "Oh, okay.
775
00:36:05,554 --> 00:36:09,428
This is what was going on
behind my back."
776
00:36:09,428 --> 00:36:13,606
♪
777
00:36:13,606 --> 00:36:14,781
Why do you think he's doing it?
778
00:36:14,781 --> 00:36:18,306
- Just to get a less sentence?
- Yeah.
779
00:36:18,306 --> 00:36:24,530
♪
780
00:36:24,530 --> 00:36:28,142
What she's telling us,
I can hardly believe.
781
00:36:28,142 --> 00:36:30,971
How is Stuart,
the guy that chased her snacks
782
00:36:30,971 --> 00:36:33,539
and ordered
her waxing appointments
783
00:36:33,539 --> 00:36:36,933
and, you know,
bought her tampons,
784
00:36:36,933 --> 00:36:39,936
how is he also running
this scheme and framing her,
785
00:36:39,936 --> 00:36:42,112
and she doesn't know?
786
00:36:42,112 --> 00:36:45,028
♪
787
00:36:48,336 --> 00:36:52,819
It makes me think, like...
788
00:36:52,819 --> 00:36:54,995
Uh, I don't...
uh, it just makes me think,
789
00:36:54,995 --> 00:36:57,954
like, it's so hard to, like,
trust people.
790
00:37:04,961 --> 00:37:08,269
We all know
how this world works,
791
00:37:08,269 --> 00:37:10,663
and karma is out there.
792
00:37:10,663 --> 00:37:12,839
- Yeah.
- And I always say that
793
00:37:12,839 --> 00:37:16,495
people who do bad things suffer
with their own being every day.
794
00:37:21,630 --> 00:37:25,982
There's so much I wish
I could say to the public.
795
00:37:25,982 --> 00:37:29,029
- I love you so much.
- Love you, love you, love you.
796
00:37:29,029 --> 00:37:30,726
♪
797
00:37:30,726 --> 00:37:36,079
I'm tired. I'm--I'm tired.
I'm really tired and, uh...
798
00:37:37,472 --> 00:37:40,388
- The Three Amigos.
- Aw.
799
00:37:48,570 --> 00:37:51,138
We know you got this, babe.
800
00:37:53,271 --> 00:37:54,359
[whispers] Okay.
801
00:37:54,359 --> 00:37:57,405
[kisses]
802
00:37:58,363 --> 00:38:03,498
[siren wailing in distance,
reporters shouting at once]
803
00:38:03,498 --> 00:38:04,586
Coming up...
804
00:38:04,586 --> 00:38:06,066
- This is a theory.
- Mm-hmm.
805
00:38:06,066 --> 00:38:10,549
I think that Coach discovered
what Jen was doing,
806
00:38:10,549 --> 00:38:12,725
and then
with all the witness statements,
807
00:38:12,725 --> 00:38:16,076
there was something that
they could not get out of.
808
00:38:16,076 --> 00:38:18,861
♪
809
00:38:23,083 --> 00:38:24,867
[bell tolls]
810
00:38:24,867 --> 00:38:26,086
SHARRIEFF: [voice echoing]
Our time has come.
811
00:38:26,086 --> 00:38:27,435
Our time has come.
Our time has come.
812
00:38:27,435 --> 00:38:28,958
CHARLENE: [voice echoing]
You'll be innocent.
813
00:38:28,958 --> 00:38:30,612
You'll be innocent.
You'll be innocent.
814
00:38:30,612 --> 00:38:31,961
JEN: I'm innocent!
815
00:38:33,615 --> 00:38:43,321
♪
816
00:38:43,321 --> 00:38:45,584
Come here, guys. No comment.
817
00:38:49,414 --> 00:38:51,677
[siren wailing in distance]
818
00:38:51,677 --> 00:38:54,854
♪
819
00:39:05,343 --> 00:39:12,741
♪
820
00:39:14,395 --> 00:39:15,570
♪
821
00:39:15,570 --> 00:39:17,790
Hey, how are you?
822
00:39:17,790 --> 00:39:20,532
- Can I get a table for two?
- Absolutely. This way.
823
00:39:20,532 --> 00:39:21,707
Thank you.
824
00:39:21,707 --> 00:39:28,366
♪
825
00:39:28,366 --> 00:39:30,411
- Hey.
- Hey.
826
00:39:30,411 --> 00:39:33,980
- How's it going.
- Ohh.
827
00:39:33,980 --> 00:39:35,938
- It's nuts.
- Nuts.
828
00:39:35,938 --> 00:39:37,592
It's nuts.
829
00:39:37,592 --> 00:39:38,854
Did you just get back
from New York?
830
00:39:38,854 --> 00:39:41,901
- Just barely got back.
- When? Like...
831
00:39:41,901 --> 00:39:43,772
Not last night,
but the night before.
832
00:39:43,772 --> 00:39:45,513
- Oh, you're kidding.
833
00:39:45,513 --> 00:39:47,123
- Hi.
- Hey.
834
00:39:47,123 --> 00:39:49,561
- I'd love to take your order.
- I would love an iced water.
835
00:39:49,561 --> 00:39:51,693
Let's get some burrata,
the crab cakes,
836
00:39:51,693 --> 00:39:53,391
and then let's do
two Vida cocktails.
837
00:39:53,391 --> 00:39:54,435
BOTH: Thank you.
838
00:39:54,435 --> 00:39:57,046
I have so many questions.
839
00:39:57,046 --> 00:39:58,787
Are you okay?
840
00:39:58,787 --> 00:40:01,790
Yeah, I'm just--
I mean, are you okay?
841
00:40:01,790 --> 00:40:04,097
It feels so surreal.
842
00:40:04,097 --> 00:40:05,446
Yesterday,
I felt like the gamut.
843
00:40:05,446 --> 00:40:07,622
I was angry. I was sad.
844
00:40:07,622 --> 00:40:11,670
Confused. I'm--I'm, like,
wow, this is who she is.
845
00:40:11,670 --> 00:40:15,413
This is a bad, awful thing
she's done.
846
00:40:15,413 --> 00:40:17,023
Thank you.
847
00:40:17,023 --> 00:40:21,549
I am overwhelmed with grief--
848
00:40:21,549 --> 00:40:25,466
grief that we are
in this situation,
849
00:40:25,466 --> 00:40:27,468
that there's victims,
850
00:40:27,468 --> 00:40:29,992
that our friend is going away
for a decade,
851
00:40:29,992 --> 00:40:32,081
and she has a 16-year-old.
852
00:40:32,081 --> 00:40:34,649
That made me bawl my eyes out yesterday.
853
00:40:34,649 --> 00:40:37,826
[voice breaking] All I could
think about was her in the van,
854
00:40:37,826 --> 00:40:40,350
saying, "I'm not gonna see
Rieffy get married."
855
00:40:40,350 --> 00:40:44,050
I might not see my--my Omar
go to prom.
856
00:40:44,050 --> 00:40:47,706
I know, I know! And I feel
for you! I feel it for you!
857
00:40:47,706 --> 00:40:49,969
This is my----ing life!
This is my life!
858
00:40:49,969 --> 00:40:53,929
This is my kids!
This is my kids!
859
00:40:53,929 --> 00:40:57,280
- Like, that part--
- I mean, Omar is 16.
860
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:01,371
♪
861
00:41:01,371 --> 00:41:04,113
[groans]
862
00:41:04,113 --> 00:41:06,855
When you read what she said,
what did you feel?
863
00:41:14,210 --> 00:41:16,343
Shock.
864
00:41:19,433 --> 00:41:25,961
What she pled guilty to is...
so bad.
865
00:41:25,961 --> 00:41:29,138
And the fact that she's
taken it this far
866
00:41:29,138 --> 00:41:31,314
and gone for this long
and proclaimed her innocence,
867
00:41:31,314 --> 00:41:34,753
and now I can only think
she did it,
868
00:41:34,753 --> 00:41:36,276
and she thought she was gonna
get away with it,
869
00:41:36,276 --> 00:41:38,626
and then when she realized
she didn't get away with it,
870
00:41:38,626 --> 00:41:40,498
her story changed.
871
00:41:40,498 --> 00:41:42,325
I didn't wanna believe
872
00:41:42,325 --> 00:41:45,807
that Jen was capable
of doing any of that.
873
00:41:45,807 --> 00:41:47,461
It was the last thing
I expected,
874
00:41:47,461 --> 00:41:49,681
for her to plead guilty.
875
00:41:49,681 --> 00:41:52,814
What made her decide
not to fight?
876
00:41:52,814 --> 00:41:54,163
- This is a theory.
- Mm-hmm.
877
00:41:54,163 --> 00:41:58,298
I think that Coach discovered
was Jen was doing
878
00:41:58,298 --> 00:42:03,129
and that it was impossible
to explain away.
879
00:42:03,129 --> 00:42:06,524
And then in that 3,500
with all the witness statements
880
00:42:06,524 --> 00:42:09,004
and all the witnesses,
there was something
881
00:42:09,004 --> 00:42:10,484
that they could not get out of.
- Refute.
882
00:42:10,484 --> 00:42:15,533
And it was a smoking gun
that said, "Okay, the gig is up.
883
00:42:15,533 --> 00:42:16,795
You have to walk in there.
884
00:42:16,795 --> 00:42:18,144
You have to say
you did these things,
885
00:42:18,144 --> 00:42:21,539
and you have to go to prison
for a decade."
886
00:42:21,539 --> 00:42:23,366
♪
887
00:42:23,366 --> 00:42:25,586
And I'll tell you right now,
if my husband knew about it,
888
00:42:25,586 --> 00:42:27,849
and my husband was involved...
- I'd be----ing losing my mind.
889
00:42:27,849 --> 00:42:30,591
And he said,
"There you go, sis.
890
00:42:30,591 --> 00:42:34,029
I'll take care of the boys.
I'll see you in 15 years."
891
00:42:34,029 --> 00:42:39,426
That, to me,
is a whole other tragedy.
892
00:42:39,426 --> 00:42:40,949
Beyond.
893
00:42:40,949 --> 00:42:42,647
I think she did it.
I think she did it,
894
00:42:42,647 --> 00:42:44,953
and I think it is--
she's choking on the words,
895
00:42:44,953 --> 00:42:47,390
and she doesn't wanna say it.
896
00:42:47,390 --> 00:42:50,524
It's too big,
and the penalties are too big.
897
00:42:50,524 --> 00:42:54,267
♪
898
00:42:54,267 --> 00:42:56,443
It's a lot.
899
00:42:56,443 --> 00:42:57,400
♪
900
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,098
It's a lot.