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[compelling music]

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[Narrator] A popular and
fun-loving college student.

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Mindy was a very
bubbly person.

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She always seemed to be happy.

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She had a light in her eyes,
and she accepted everyone.

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[Narrator] Is found savagely
murdered in her apartment.

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There was a belt
wrapped around her neck,

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and appeared to be
a broken off-knife

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still stuck in her throat.

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[Narrator] Police
need to determine,

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was this a sinister obsession?

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He had called and
left numerous messages

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on her cell phone.

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Just really a strange
type of relationship.

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[Narrator] A crucial
piece of evidence.

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There was some material
under the fingernails

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of her left hand.

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[Narrator] Shines a light
on a dangerous predator

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no one saw coming.

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I was very shocked,
I think everybody was.

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He was not the man
we thought he was.

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I don't think I would ever
expect that outcome at all.

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[compelling music]

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[phone ringing]

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[suspenseful music]

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I remember trying to
call Mindy a few times,

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and she wasn't answering,

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so me and my friend Danielle
drove, and parked in front

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of her apartment
across the street.

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I ran inside, and
knocked on the door,

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and there was no answer,
but it wasn't locked,

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and so I opened the
door and I stepped in,

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and about two steps in, I
saw something on the ground,

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right in front of my feet.

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[suspenseful music]

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It was Mindy,

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and then I noticed
something around her neck.

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[Narrator] Horrified,
Mindy's friend rushes outside

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to call 9 1 1.

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[suspenseful music]

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About 10 minutes
before 9:00 that night,

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dispatch called me at my house,

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and said that they got a
hysterical caller on the phone.

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I got the address, and it
was one block from my house.

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When I have arrived,
both Danielle

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and Toni were very
distraught, very upset.

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[suspenseful music]

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The apartment was
located on the second floor

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of the building.

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As I entered, I could
smell a very strong order,

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like an ammonia disinfectant.

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The body of the victim was

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laying across the entry hallway.

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And it appeared her throat
had been half cut open.

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[Narrator] Detectives
begin their investigation,

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and identify the victim

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as 22-year-old college
senior, Mindy Morgenstern.

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I knew Mindy.

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She was a student
at the college.

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I had seen her at a
lot of their events,

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and to see that it was her,

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I was really surprised,
and quite shocked.

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[suspenseful music]

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There was a belt
wrapped around her neck,

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and appeared to be a

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broken off knife, still
stuck in her throat.

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It appeared that the belt
was applied to the neck

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prior to the neck being cut.

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[Narrator] Investigators
find an empty bottle

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of disinfectant beside the body.

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Somebody had poured the
disinfectant over her body,

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possibly trying to destroy
any type of evidence.

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[Narrator] The killer
tried to cover their tracks,

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but investigators find
something they missed.

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There was some material
under the fingernails

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of her left hand,
where possibly,

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Mindy had scratched
her assailant.

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We felt that this was gonna
be a DNA forensic type case,

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based on the materials
that were found

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under Mindy's fingernails.

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And to preserve that,
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in bags for autopsy.

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She had a purse
around her right arm.

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Her wallet was laying
just outside of the purse.

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It didn't appear that
they'd been gone through,

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or anything removed from them.

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There was clean
laundry around the body

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in a laundry basket.

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It almost appeared as
if she was attacked

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as she was going in the
door with that laundry.

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It did not look like the
apartment had been ransacked,

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or gone through, so it didn't
appear that theft was a motive

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in this killing.

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There was no sign of any
forced entry into the apartment.

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It told us that the person
was either in her apartment,

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or followed her in.

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Her cell phone was located,
and the first missed call

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on that phone was at 12:47 PM

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on September 13th.

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That gave us some indication

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as to what time the
attack may have occurred.

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[Narrator] By 10:00
PM, more than nine hours

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after the first missed call,

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detectives have little
to go on as they work

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into the night at
the crime scene.

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When we first left the
scene the following morning,

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we had no clear indication
of who may have done this.

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[suspenseful music]

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[Narrator] Police
reach Mindy's sister

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to inform her of the murder,

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and she delivers the
tragic news to her parents.

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Front doorbell rang,
and I said, "Who's there?"

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And Rebecca, our daughter,
she said, "It's me, Dad.

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I've got some bad news."

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And then Rebecca
said to me that,

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"Mom, Mindy is dead."

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It was just like
somebody taking a knife,

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and just sticking it
right into your heart.

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I just wanted to try to just
say, "No, this isn't real.

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This didn't happen."

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I didn't want it to be true.

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She had such a
loving, loving heart,

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and I loved her very much.

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[Narrator] Born in Bogota,
Colombia on April 29th, 1984,

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Mindy was adopted as a baby
by Valley City farmers,

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Larry and Eunice Morgenstern.

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The first time I saw Mindy,
she had the biggest, darkest,

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most beautiful eyes
that I had ever seen.

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It was pretty, pretty, very
amazing to see this little,

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little character in a
basket that she brought home

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to be part of our family.

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[Narrator] Mindy
was the youngest

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of four Morgenstern children,

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three of them adopted
by Larry and Eunice.

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Mindy was very much a
tomboy, and as she grew up,

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she got so beautiful.

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She didn't really realize
that she would be looked upon

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as somebody that would
turn boys' heads.

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[Narrator] After high
school, Mindy moved

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to Valley City, and dove
headlong into college life.

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She just seemed to
enjoy all the friends

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that she had there.

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Mindy was a very friendly,
outgoing, bubbly person.

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She just always
seemed to be happy.

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She had a light in her eyes,
and she accepted everyone.

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[Narrator] Mindy's
future was looking bright,

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until the stunning attack that
cut her down in her prime.

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It was very difficult

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to see Mindy's body

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in the condition that it
was in when we found her.

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I wanted to find
out who did this,

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because she was loved by a lot
of people in our community.

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[Narrator] Back
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Mindy's two friends tell
detectives they weren't

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the only ones to
see Mindy's body.

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[suspenseful music]

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When Toni found Mindy at
the scene, she screamed,

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which alerted a man in
a neighboring apartment

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to come out to see
what was wrong.

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He was there when I first
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and they showed me
where Mindy was located.

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He told investigators
that he checked for pulse,

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using the back of his hand,
to not leave any fingerprints

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on the victim.

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It was a little odd, because
people don't describe things

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like that, like using
the back of their hand

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so they don't leave
fingerprints, and
things like that.

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If he was there to help,
I couldn't understand

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why he'd be worried about
something like that.

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[Narrator] Police identify
the man as Robert Lynds,

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and soon notice a
telling detail about him.

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He had scratches on his
hands that would correspond

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to someone trying to get
your hands off of them

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when they were being attacked.

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[Narrator] Had
Mindy scratched Robert

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as she fought for her life?

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Robert Lynds having
those scratches,

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being in the same building,

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he certainly needed
to be looked at.

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A lot of times, a person at
the crime scene is the person

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that committed the crime,

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and any evidence
of them is found,

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they have an excuse for
saying why it was there.

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[Narrator] Coming up,

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detectives uncover
a world of secrets.

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It turned out upon
checking his background,

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that he had a felony record.

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[Narrator] And as they
zero in on a killer.

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I was absolutely certain
we had the right guy.

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[Narrator] A stunning setback
turns the case on its head.

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I just thought it's
all over with now.

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They're gonna let him go.

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This case was a
shock to everybody.

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When we found out
who the person was,

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it was just, wow.

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[Narrator] Police,
investigating the murder

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of 22-year-old college
student Mindy Morgenstern

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have just identified
their first suspect,

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her neighbor, Robert Lynds.

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[suspenseful music]

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When officers
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they noticed some
scratches on his hands.

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And he also used
the back of his hand

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to see if she was
deceased or not.

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His concern was he didn't
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or DNA in the apartment,

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because he had nothing
to do with the incident.

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[Narrator] Suspicions aroused,
police bring Robert Lynds

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into the station
for an interview.

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All he knew about her is
that she was a pretty girl,

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and that she lived in
the apartment building.

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[Narrator] When investigators
dig into Robert's history,

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they find something troubling.

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It turned out upon
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that he had a felony record.

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Robert Lynds was in
the criminal system
out in California.

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He's street smart, and
he knew not to leave

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fingerprints at a crime scene.

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[Narrator] Detectives
ask Robert how he got

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the scratches on his hands.

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He claimed he worked at
a place where they built

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steel buildings,
and stuff like that,

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and he got the bruises on
his hands from his job.

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[Narrator] Police
cut to the chase,

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and ask Robert where he was
on the day Mindy was murdered.

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Robert Lynds told
investigators that he had been

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at at work that day from
seven in the morning,

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and he didn't arrive home his
apartment until about 5:30.

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We talked to his employer.

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He did work all day.

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He did work with steel,

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so it's very easy for
him to cut his hands.

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So there was really nothing
to put him at that apartment

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at the time the crime occurred.

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[Narrator] Still,
police aren't ready

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to rule out Robert just yet.

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We asked him to provide DNA
sample, which she agreed to.

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[Narrator] While they
await DNA test results,

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police canvas Mindy's neighbors.

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We were looking for
anybody that might have seen

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something, heard something, so
we can get a better timeline

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as far as when this
might've happened.

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[Narrator] While
going door to door,

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investigators are pleased
to see a familiar face.

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As I was collecting statements
outside, I saw Moe Gibbs.

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He had been living in
the apartment building

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with his wife,
and step-daughter.

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Moe works at the
Barnes County Jail,

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and due to the fact that he
was a correctional officer,

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I would run into him quite
often while he was working,

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and I also knew Mo
because we played

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on the co-ed softball
tournament together.

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A guy in his position
probably would be

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an excellent witness if he
had seen or heard anything.

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Moe Gibbs said
that he knew Mindy

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as a person that
lived in the building.

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He had seen her come and go.

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[Narrator] The investigator
asked Moe if he noticed

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anything unusual that afternoon.

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Moe had said that he went

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with his wife and
step-daughter for lunch,

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then came back to the
apartment at about 12:45,

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and started packing
and loading boxes,

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as he and his wife
were going to be moving

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out of the apartment.

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He mentioned that when he
went into the apartment complex,

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he could smell a
strong, distinct order
of a disinfectant.

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Other than that,

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he claimed that he didn't
hear or see anything.

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So we were working
with a timeline

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between the first
missed call at 12:47 PM,

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and the disinfectant being
smelled shortly after 1:00 PM.

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So we figured she
probably was deceased

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prior to one o'clock
in the afternoon.

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[suspenseful music]

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[Narrator] To rule them out,
police collect DNA samples

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from Moe and the other
building residents.

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[suspenseful music]

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All the DNA samples
taken during our interviews

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were sent to the
state crime lab.

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[suspenseful music]

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[Narrator] In
search of new leads,

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detectives turn to
Mindy's loved ones.

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I just didn't think
there was anybody

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that would wanna do
anything like that to her.

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[Narrator] Investigators
push Mindy's parents

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to think hard about anyone

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who might've had a
problem with her.

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Mindy's mother mentioned that
Tony had had this boyfriend

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that wasn't such a nice person.

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His name was James.

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I was dating James
Robinson at the time,

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and he was doing
some bad things,

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and I was taking
the brunt of it,

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and Mindy didn't really care
for him, because she had known

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that there was times
that it got pretty scary.

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Mindy did bring
him up at one time,

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something about him being
on drugs or something.

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Mindy was trying to get
Toni to quit seeing James,

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and that may give
him some reason

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to hold a grudge against Mindy.

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[suspenseful music]

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This James Robinson, it
didn't look like he wanted

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his girlfriend, Toni, to
be friends with Mindy.

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She did, you know,

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obviously like a
friend does, "Get out."

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you know, "You need to leave.

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He's not a good guy.

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This isn't a good relationship."

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[suspenseful music]

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[Narrator] In trying
to help her friend,

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had Mindy made a deadly enemy?

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Seemed like the attack
was personal in nature.

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[suspenseful music]

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It made me think that

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maybe this guy had something
to do with her death.

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[suspenseful music]

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[suspenseful music]

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[Narrator] Investigators
are hunting for the killer

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of popular college
student, Mindy Morgenstern.

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They now suspect James Robinson,
who may have held a grudge

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against Mindy for trying to turn

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his girlfriend Toni against him.

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[suspenseful music]

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So James was called
in to do an interview,

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to see what we could
glean from him.

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[suspenseful music]

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[Narrator] Police asked James
if he has a criminal record.

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James said that
he had, in the past,

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had trouble with illegal drugs.

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He had been charged,

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but he was trying to stay
out of that lifestyle.

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[suspenseful music]

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[Narrator] As James talks,

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detectives notice suspicious
cuts on his hands.

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[Narrator] Police press
James on his whereabouts

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at the time of the murder.

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James told investigators
that he went to do community

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service from these
previous charges.

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He then went to
a friend's house,

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and went back home
sometime 5:00 or later.

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We checked, and it was
verified that he had been

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at those locations that day.

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[suspenseful music]

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[Narrator] Even though
James' alibi checks out,

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investigators
collect a DNA sample

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in order to officially
rule him out.

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[suspenseful music]

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As they review evidence
from the crime scene,

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autopsy results arrive.

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The autopsy of Mindy's body
indicated that she had died

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from asphyxiation, and due
to the cuts to her neck.

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There was no indication

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that Mindy had been
sexually assaulted.

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[suspenseful music]

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[Narrator] Still
awaiting results on DNA

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collected from Mindy's
fingernails, detectives turned

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to her coworkers for new leads.

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Mindy had been
working at a restaurant

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in Valley City as a waitstaff.

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It was important to
interview Mindy's coworkers,

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and see if they knew
of anyone unusual

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in the restaurant that
stood out to them.

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[suspenseful music]

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There was a man that
lived in a motor home

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across the street
from the restaurant.

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Mindy told coworkers,

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that he made her
feel really uneasy,

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and he's always in
there bothering them.

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So hearing that information,
we decided to interview him.

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Mr. Wolters didn't have
any ties to the area,

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just kind of odd character.

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He really didn't
have a good alibi

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for when Mindy was murdered.

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[Narrator] Just as
with previous suspects,

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detectives spot a
potentially damning clue.

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He claimed he never bothered
anybody in the restaurant

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where Mindy worked, claimed
he didn't know who she was.

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[suspenseful music]

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[Narrator] But
Mindy's coworkers tell
a different story.

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They all said that he
was in there quite often.

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Mr. Wolters would have seen her,

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coming and going at least.

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Would that give him a
reason to follow her?

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We really didn't
know at that point.

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Red flags were
waving, of course,

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but I was real careful not
to jump to any conclusions

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too early on in
the investigation.

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[suspenseful music]

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[Narrator] Detectives collect
Ralph's DNA and let him go,

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but they're not ready
to clear him just yet.

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We keep him on the list.

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We're hoping DNA samples,
if he was involved,

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would eventually
tie him into it.

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[Narrator] Two days
after the murder, the wait

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for answers starts to take
a toll on Mindy's family.

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That was a hard part, not
knowing what was going on,

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and what happened, and why.

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It was like living some place

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in another world,

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and you just wanted answers.

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[suspenseful music]

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[Narrator] Three days
into the investigation,

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detectives catch a
break when they find

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disturbing voicemails
left on Mindy's phone

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after she was dead.

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[suspenseful music]

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[Narrator] Detectives search
the number, and discover

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that it belongs to a
man named Rodney Kuznia.

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[suspenseful music]

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After Mindy had passed
away, he had called,

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and left numerous messages
on her cell phone.

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[Narrator] Investigators
rush to find out

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who Rodney Kuznia is,
and why he called Mindy

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after her murder.

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[suspenseful music]

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Mindy's friends had told
us about a previous boyfriend

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by the name of Kyle Kuznia.

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They had been very serious,

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and they had broken
up the prior year.

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Mindy's phone indicated
a lot of calls

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between she and
Kyle's father, Rodney.

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We thought this
was really odd,

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because why would an
ex-boyfriend's father be

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so interested in Mindy?

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There was some indication
from Mindy's friends

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that Mindy had told
Rodney to quit calling.

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[suspenseful music]

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[Narrator] It's
been three days

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since 22-year-old Mindy
Morgenstern was found

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brutally murdered
in her apartment.

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[suspenseful music]

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Police have a new suspect,
an ex-boyfriend's father,

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who left suspicious voicemails
for Mindy after her death.

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00:24:16,323 --> 00:24:18,238
[suspenseful music]

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[suspenseful music]

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It just was really odd

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why Mindy's
ex-boyfriend's father

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was leaving these messages,

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why he was so
infatuated with her,

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and obviously he had
feelings for her.

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[suspenseful music]

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[Narrator] Eager to learn
more about Mindy's communication

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with Rodney, detectives start
by questioning his son, Kyle.

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Kyle was Mindy's ex-boyfriend,

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and Mindy, I think, still
had feelings for Kyle.

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[suspenseful music]

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It was found that Kyle had
broken off his relationship

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with her a year before,

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and was planning to get
married to someone else,

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and had really had

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very little contact with Mindy

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since that time that
they had broken up.

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[suspenseful music]

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[Narrator] After verifying
that Kyle was working

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out of town on the
day of the murder,

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detectives turn their questions

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to his father's
relationship with Mindy.

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It was actually ruining his
relationship with his father,

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because Rodney was so
involved with Mindy still.

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[suspenseful music]

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Rod Kuznia had an
almost unhealthy amount

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of contact with Mindy,
and then that continued

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even after Kyle
and Mindy broke up.

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The calls were very frequent,
like, multiple times daily,

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and it really made us wonder,

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did Mindy want him
to quit calling her?

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[suspenseful music]

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Did that make him angry?

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[suspenseful music]

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[Narrator] Detectives
bring Rodney Kuznia

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in for an interview.

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He was at least in his
50s, and we weren't sure

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what it was that he
wanted out of Mindy.

487
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[Narrator] Detectives press
Rodney about the messages

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he left after hearing
of Mindy's death.

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It was just really

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a strange type of relationship

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between a man that was her
boyfriend's father and her.

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[suspenseful music]

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[Narrator] Detectives press
Rodney on his whereabouts

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at the time of the murder.

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Rod Kuznia indicated that
he was working on his farm

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with his two sons from
seven in the morning,

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till early in the evening.

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We checked and
verified that yes,

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he had been at work that day.

500
00:28:06,815 --> 00:28:09,208
[Narrator] Detectives
collect DNA from Rodney,

501
00:28:09,252 --> 00:28:13,735
but with nothing
concrete against him,
they must let him go.

502
00:28:13,778 --> 00:28:17,216
We still thought that it
was such an odd relationship,

503
00:28:17,260 --> 00:28:20,437
that we've certainly
wouldn't close the book

504
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,787
on looking at
Rodney any further.

505
00:28:22,831 --> 00:28:24,746
[suspenseful music]

506
00:28:24,789 --> 00:28:25,834
[Narrator] The
pressure to find

507
00:28:25,877 --> 00:28:28,445
Mindy's killer only increases,

508
00:28:28,488 --> 00:28:31,665
as the community
becomes gripped by fear.

509
00:28:31,709 --> 00:28:33,580
[suspenseful music]

510
00:28:33,624 --> 00:28:35,582
It was super scary, because
you didn't know who it was.

511
00:28:35,626 --> 00:28:37,193
It could have been anybody.

512
00:28:37,236 --> 00:28:38,455
You were scared to
go out by yourself.

513
00:28:38,498 --> 00:28:40,457
You were scared to do anything.

514
00:28:40,500 --> 00:28:42,807
It wasn't safe, little
Valley City anymore.

515
00:28:42,851 --> 00:28:45,288
[mournful music]

516
00:28:45,331 --> 00:28:47,812
[Narrator] Six days
after the murder,

517
00:28:47,856 --> 00:28:50,772
Mindy's funeral draws
hundreds of mourners.

518
00:28:51,860 --> 00:28:53,383
We had the funeral at a

519
00:28:53,426 --> 00:28:55,298
high school gym, because

520
00:28:55,341 --> 00:28:56,821
we didn't think that
everybody could fit

521
00:28:56,865 --> 00:28:58,692
into the church
while there was over

522
00:28:58,736 --> 00:29:02,174
500 people at the funeral,
and the police told us

523
00:29:02,218 --> 00:29:05,264
they would have some
undercover agents watching,

524
00:29:05,308 --> 00:29:07,136
because they didn't know
for sure if this person was,

525
00:29:07,179 --> 00:29:09,660
you know, after
her, or after us.

526
00:29:09,703 --> 00:29:12,576
And you get kind of paranoid
of anything like that happening

527
00:29:12,619 --> 00:29:15,187
until they finally
catch the right person.

528
00:29:15,231 --> 00:29:17,189
[suspenseful music]

529
00:29:17,233 --> 00:29:19,409
[Narrator] The day
after Mindy's funeral,

530
00:29:19,452 --> 00:29:23,848
investigators receive surprising
news from the crime lab.

531
00:29:23,892 --> 00:29:25,502
The state crime lab called,

532
00:29:25,545 --> 00:29:27,634
and said that we
have a positive match

533
00:29:28,722 --> 00:29:30,289
of the DNA.

534
00:29:30,333 --> 00:29:33,640
The DNA extracted from
under the fingernails

535
00:29:33,684 --> 00:29:38,515
of Mindy matched an unsolved
brutal sexual assault

536
00:29:38,558 --> 00:29:40,691
in Fargo two years previously.

537
00:29:40,734 --> 00:29:42,258
[suspenseful music]

538
00:29:42,301 --> 00:29:46,262
And when we found
out who the person was,

539
00:29:47,350 --> 00:29:49,395
it was just kind of silence.

540
00:29:49,439 --> 00:29:51,180
The news was a shock.

541
00:29:51,223 --> 00:29:53,965
[suspenseful music]

542
00:29:59,188 --> 00:30:01,364
[suspenseful music]

543
00:30:01,407 --> 00:30:02,974
[Narrator] One
week after the murder

544
00:30:03,018 --> 00:30:05,368
of 22-year-old
Mindy Morgenstern,

545
00:30:06,935 --> 00:30:09,024
detectives received
DNA test results

546
00:30:09,067 --> 00:30:11,113
that turned the
case on its head.

547
00:30:12,723 --> 00:30:15,160
The DNA from every
one of the suspects,

548
00:30:15,204 --> 00:30:20,209
Kuznia, Wolters, Lynds, and
the others all came back

549
00:30:21,253 --> 00:30:22,864
as not a match to the DNA found

550
00:30:22,907 --> 00:30:24,430
under Mindy's fingernails.

551
00:30:25,910 --> 00:30:28,304
I asked, "Who is it?"

552
00:30:28,347 --> 00:30:30,915
They told me it was Moe Gibbs.

553
00:30:32,351 --> 00:30:37,356
When they got the
match, it was just, wow.

554
00:30:39,228 --> 00:30:42,492
The DNA match of Moe Gibbs
is really unexpected for us.

555
00:30:43,406 --> 00:30:44,711
I knew him personally.

556
00:30:44,755 --> 00:30:47,105
He was a correctional officer,

557
00:30:47,149 --> 00:30:50,369
and it really caught me
off guard that somebody

558
00:30:50,413 --> 00:30:53,416
in the law enforcement
community would have done

559
00:30:53,459 --> 00:30:55,200
something like this.

560
00:30:55,244 --> 00:30:57,072
[Narrator] When
detectives look deep

561
00:30:57,115 --> 00:31:01,293
into Moe's background, they
discover a hidden past.

562
00:31:01,337 --> 00:31:04,470
Moe Gibbs was not the
man we thought he was.

563
00:31:04,514 --> 00:31:06,385
When we started digging
into his background,

564
00:31:06,429 --> 00:31:10,128
we had found out that he'd
actually changed his name.

565
00:31:10,172 --> 00:31:13,262
We found out that he was
involved in a drive-by shooting,

566
00:31:13,305 --> 00:31:15,481
and he had served
five years in prison.

567
00:31:17,266 --> 00:31:21,313
Also, his DNA matched
this reported rape in Fargo

568
00:31:21,357 --> 00:31:23,272
from two years previously.

569
00:31:23,315 --> 00:31:26,318
[suspenseful music]

570
00:31:28,016 --> 00:31:30,496
[Narrator] Given Moe's
violent criminal past,

571
00:31:30,540 --> 00:31:32,498
detectives come
up with a strategy

572
00:31:32,542 --> 00:31:34,500
to lure him into the station.

573
00:31:36,285 --> 00:31:38,069
We had called Moe, and asked
him if he would be willing

574
00:31:38,113 --> 00:31:41,159
to come in, just to
eliminate him as a suspect.

575
00:31:41,203 --> 00:31:44,989
We were playing on his
friendship with law enforcement.

576
00:31:45,033 --> 00:31:49,124
The idea was to get them
in, lock him in to a story,

577
00:31:49,167 --> 00:31:51,343
and then immediately
give them a polygraph.

578
00:31:53,128 --> 00:31:55,260
Moe Gibbs, who lived
in the apartment building

579
00:31:55,304 --> 00:31:59,090
that Mindy lived in, and
he said that he had seen

580
00:31:59,134 --> 00:32:03,268
her around, but he really
didn't know her at all.

581
00:32:03,312 --> 00:32:06,271
Moe said that he had
worked at the jail

582
00:32:06,315 --> 00:32:08,839
the previous night,
had gotten home

583
00:32:08,882 --> 00:32:13,278
about seven in the morning,
and then he started packing

584
00:32:13,322 --> 00:32:16,325
and loading boxes
out of the apartment.

585
00:32:27,901 --> 00:32:30,208
Scratches were
observed on Moe's hands,

586
00:32:30,252 --> 00:32:33,820
and Moe stated that
he got those scratches

587
00:32:33,864 --> 00:32:35,518
from moving boxes.

588
00:32:38,042 --> 00:32:41,089
The polygraph operator
asked him if he'd ever been

589
00:32:41,132 --> 00:32:43,265
in Mindy's room, or
in her apartment.

590
00:32:49,488 --> 00:32:51,577
He stated that she
was trying to carry

591
00:32:51,621 --> 00:32:54,102
a laundry basket,
and some other things

592
00:32:54,145 --> 00:32:58,149
all at the same time, and
he assisted her in carrying

593
00:32:58,193 --> 00:32:59,629
that laundry to her apartment.

594
00:33:01,196 --> 00:33:03,589
I'm thinking that he
wanted to have an excuse

595
00:33:03,633 --> 00:33:05,939
for having evidence
in that apartment.

596
00:33:05,983 --> 00:33:07,332
[suspenseful music]

597
00:33:07,376 --> 00:33:09,334
[Narrator] With
Moe's story in place,

598
00:33:09,378 --> 00:33:11,032
the polygraph can begin.

599
00:33:22,086 --> 00:33:25,394
At the conclusion of
the polygraph examination,

600
00:33:25,437 --> 00:33:27,613
the examiner felt that there was

601
00:33:27,657 --> 00:33:29,572
some indication of deception.

602
00:34:05,651 --> 00:34:07,653
At that point, we didn't think

603
00:34:07,697 --> 00:34:10,482
that he was really gonna
ever admit to anything,

604
00:34:10,526 --> 00:34:12,310
at least that day.

605
00:34:52,611 --> 00:34:55,658
He was arrested immediately
after that interview,

606
00:34:55,701 --> 00:34:57,486
and charged with murder.

607
00:35:07,235 --> 00:35:10,151
[compelling music]

608
00:35:12,022 --> 00:35:15,025
[Narrator] News of Moe's
arrest opens a floodgate

609
00:35:15,068 --> 00:35:17,070
of shocking accusations.

610
00:35:18,463 --> 00:35:20,204
A number of female
inmates in the jail

611
00:35:20,248 --> 00:35:23,207
where Moe Gibbs worked
came forward and said.

612
00:35:23,251 --> 00:35:26,384
'He's been doing sexual
stuff to us in the jail

613
00:35:26,428 --> 00:35:28,560
for weeks or months."

614
00:35:34,610 --> 00:35:36,394
[compelling music]

615
00:35:36,438 --> 00:35:38,179
[Narrator] Moe is
charged with six felonies

616
00:35:38,222 --> 00:35:40,050
for the sexual assaults,

617
00:35:40,093 --> 00:35:43,619
and one count of
first degree murder.

618
00:35:43,662 --> 00:35:46,230
It was a very,
very much a shock

619
00:35:46,274 --> 00:35:50,016
when they revealed
who was arrested.

620
00:35:50,060 --> 00:35:53,106
I was very surprised,
and very shocked,

621
00:35:53,150 --> 00:35:55,718
due to the fact I
knew him personally,

622
00:35:55,761 --> 00:35:59,025
but it was a great
feeling to get the person

623
00:35:59,069 --> 00:36:01,376
who had done this
horrific crime.

624
00:36:03,204 --> 00:36:06,207
We went to trial in Minot,
North Dakota, provided evidence

625
00:36:06,250 --> 00:36:10,123
to the jury there about the
DNA under her fingernails,

626
00:36:10,167 --> 00:36:12,038
the scratches on his hand.

627
00:36:12,082 --> 00:36:14,040
[compelling music]

628
00:36:14,084 --> 00:36:16,217
[Narrator] Despite the
evidence against him,

629
00:36:16,260 --> 00:36:19,394
Moe's lawyers mount
a strong defense.

630
00:36:19,437 --> 00:36:21,570
Their argument
was the DNA found

631
00:36:21,613 --> 00:36:25,356
in Mindy's fingernails
was probably touched DNA

632
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,053
that she got from door knobs

633
00:36:27,097 --> 00:36:28,707
that Moe Gibbs
had been touching.

634
00:36:28,751 --> 00:36:30,448
[compelling music]

635
00:36:30,492 --> 00:36:34,365
I went into the jury
deliberations believing strongly

636
00:36:34,409 --> 00:36:37,281
that we'd proved our case
beyond a reasonable doubt.

637
00:36:37,325 --> 00:36:41,459
[Narrator] On July 12th,
2007, the jury returns

638
00:36:41,503 --> 00:36:46,508
to the courtroom with news that
takes everyone by surprise.

639
00:36:48,336 --> 00:36:50,076
The jury deliberated
for a fair period of time,

640
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,122
and came back as a hung jury,

641
00:36:52,165 --> 00:36:55,691
and could not reach a decision.

642
00:36:55,734 --> 00:36:57,649
We were so sure

643
00:36:57,693 --> 00:37:00,173
he was gonna go down,

644
00:37:00,217 --> 00:37:02,175
but they just got him off.

645
00:37:03,568 --> 00:37:04,656
You kind of went home
and you were thinking,

646
00:37:04,700 --> 00:37:05,744
what are we gonna do now?

647
00:37:05,788 --> 00:37:08,791
[suspenseful music]

648
00:37:12,577 --> 00:37:15,580
[Narrator] Corrections
officer Moe Gibbs has just been

649
00:37:15,624 --> 00:37:19,889
tried for the murder of
22-year-old Mindy Morgenstern,

650
00:37:19,932 --> 00:37:22,979
but when the verdict
comes back a hung jury,

651
00:37:23,022 --> 00:37:26,069
Mindy's loved ones are
left fearing the worst.

652
00:37:26,112 --> 00:37:29,681
[suspenseful music]

653
00:37:29,725 --> 00:37:31,553
I was very shocked.

654
00:37:31,596 --> 00:37:32,336
I think everybody was.

655
00:37:34,207 --> 00:37:37,210
I don't think I would ever
expect that outcome at all.

656
00:37:39,038 --> 00:37:41,084
When we heard it was a
hung jury, I just thought

657
00:37:41,127 --> 00:37:43,260
it's all over with now.

658
00:37:43,304 --> 00:37:44,783
They're gonna let him go.

659
00:37:45,697 --> 00:37:47,351
[suspenseful music]

660
00:37:47,395 --> 00:37:49,266
[Narrator] Was it possible
that Moe had not killed

661
00:37:49,310 --> 00:37:53,923
Mindy after all, or was a
murderer about to go free?

662
00:37:53,966 --> 00:37:56,099
[suspenseful music]

663
00:37:56,142 --> 00:37:58,101
When a hung jury
like that happens,

664
00:37:58,144 --> 00:38:01,626
it's extremely disappointing
and hard to understand

665
00:38:01,670 --> 00:38:05,064
for people, because it's
just a temporary setback.

666
00:38:06,849 --> 00:38:08,590
I was absolutely certain
we had the right guy.

667
00:38:08,633 --> 00:38:11,070
In the Minot
trial, the defense,

668
00:38:11,114 --> 00:38:12,942
the one thing they really hung

669
00:38:12,985 --> 00:38:16,772
their hat on was that trying
to say it was just touched DNA.

670
00:38:16,815 --> 00:38:19,688
We felt it was
obvious that to get DNA

671
00:38:19,731 --> 00:38:21,777
under your fingernails,
it wasn't from touching

672
00:38:21,820 --> 00:38:23,256
any kind of doorknob.

673
00:38:23,300 --> 00:38:25,389
So we wanted to
totally rule that out,

674
00:38:25,433 --> 00:38:28,610
and we're able to find another
expert to help us do that.

675
00:38:28,653 --> 00:38:30,046
[suspenseful music]

676
00:38:30,089 --> 00:38:32,657
[Narrator] On
October 22nd, 2007,

677
00:38:32,701 --> 00:38:34,964
more than a year
after Mindy's murder,

678
00:38:35,007 --> 00:38:38,184
Moe Gibbs goes on trial
for the second time.

679
00:38:38,228 --> 00:38:40,012
[suspenseful music]

680
00:38:40,056 --> 00:38:43,799
The expert described
this as a vigorous assault.

681
00:38:43,842 --> 00:38:47,672
The amount of DNA was not
from touching a doorknob

682
00:38:47,716 --> 00:38:49,152
or a laundry basket.

683
00:38:49,195 --> 00:38:50,806
[suspenseful music]

684
00:38:50,849 --> 00:38:53,635
The prosecution lays
out further evidence,

685
00:38:53,678 --> 00:38:56,202
carefully building
the case against Moe.

686
00:38:56,246 --> 00:38:57,813
[suspenseful music]

687
00:38:57,856 --> 00:39:00,642
Moe Gibb's phone was
seized after his arrest,

688
00:39:00,685 --> 00:39:04,950
and there were never times
when he went for an hour

689
00:39:04,994 --> 00:39:08,171
or more that he was not texting,

690
00:39:08,214 --> 00:39:10,347
or doing something
with his phone.

691
00:39:10,391 --> 00:39:12,218
[suspenseful music]

692
00:39:12,262 --> 00:39:16,005
He got off at seven in
the morning from his shift,

693
00:39:16,048 --> 00:39:19,965
and he was continually either
emailing or texting people

694
00:39:20,009 --> 00:39:24,666
until he had to go pick up
his fiance to go to lunch.

695
00:39:24,709 --> 00:39:28,670
He dropped her back
off from 12:30 or 1:00,

696
00:39:28,713 --> 00:39:31,281
and that's when we
believe he came back

697
00:39:31,324 --> 00:39:32,804
to the apartment building.

698
00:39:34,415 --> 00:39:35,981
[suspenseful music]

699
00:39:36,025 --> 00:39:39,985
Mindy's last missed call
was at 12:47 that day,

700
00:39:40,029 --> 00:39:41,857
and for the next two hours,

701
00:39:41,900 --> 00:39:43,946
Moe Gibbs was doing
something else

702
00:39:43,989 --> 00:39:46,383
other than sending
texts or sending emails.

703
00:39:46,427 --> 00:39:49,081
[suspenseful music]

704
00:39:49,125 --> 00:39:50,866
[Narrator] With DNA

705
00:39:50,909 --> 00:39:52,824
and other evidence
placing Moe at the scene,

706
00:39:52,868 --> 00:39:55,740
the prosecution lays out
their theory of the murder.

707
00:39:55,784 --> 00:39:57,220
[suspenseful music]

708
00:39:57,263 --> 00:39:59,440
I believe that Mindy
was carrying clothes

709
00:39:59,483 --> 00:40:04,270
into her apartment, and Moe
Gibbs was in the hallway,

710
00:40:06,098 --> 00:40:07,186
and got her in there, and
pushed her on the floor,

711
00:40:07,230 --> 00:40:08,927
and attempted to rape her.

712
00:40:08,971 --> 00:40:10,407
[suspenseful music]

713
00:40:10,451 --> 00:40:12,714
I think Mindy fought back,

714
00:40:12,757 --> 00:40:15,368
and things went
drastically wrong.

715
00:40:15,412 --> 00:40:17,240
[suspenseful music]

716
00:40:17,283 --> 00:40:19,155
I think what happened
was he tried strangling her

717
00:40:19,198 --> 00:40:22,767
with a belt, and it wasn't
going as he wanted it to.

718
00:40:22,811 --> 00:40:24,465
She wasn't dying fast enough,

719
00:40:24,508 --> 00:40:26,075
[suspenseful music]

720
00:40:26,118 --> 00:40:30,166
so he got a knife,
and he stabbed her,

721
00:40:30,209 --> 00:40:34,083
and then when he got done,
he finds a cleaning solution,

722
00:40:34,126 --> 00:40:35,127
dumps it on her body,

723
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,870
and then he gets the
heck out of there.

724
00:40:38,914 --> 00:40:40,785
[suspenseful music]

725
00:40:40,829 --> 00:40:43,440
Then he starts back with
the texting and emailing,

726
00:40:43,484 --> 00:40:44,789
and went on with his life.

727
00:40:44,833 --> 00:40:47,836
[suspenseful music]

728
00:40:50,491 --> 00:40:53,494
[Narrator] As Moe's second
murder trial concludes,

729
00:40:53,537 --> 00:40:56,497
prosecutors have one
final card to play.

730
00:40:56,540 --> 00:40:58,020
[suspenseful music]

731
00:40:58,063 --> 00:41:00,152
There was a
cellmate of Moe Gibbs

732
00:41:00,196 --> 00:41:04,243
while he was awaiting trial
that had told investigators

733
00:41:04,287 --> 00:41:09,292
that Moe had admitted
to killing Mindy.

734
00:41:10,815 --> 00:41:12,208
Gibbs had told them
that he'd done it,

735
00:41:12,251 --> 00:41:14,123
and do it again if he
had the opportunity.

736
00:41:14,166 --> 00:41:17,169
[suspenseful music]

737
00:41:19,302 --> 00:41:22,958
[Narrator] As the jury
deliberates for a second time,

738
00:41:23,001 --> 00:41:26,962
Mindy's loved ones
nervously await the outcome.

739
00:41:27,005 --> 00:41:28,964
And I was wondering
what's going on?

740
00:41:29,007 --> 00:41:30,879
I wanted to know things.

741
00:41:30,922 --> 00:41:34,317
I wanted to hear what was
coming out of their mouths.

742
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,232
[suspenseful music]

743
00:41:36,275 --> 00:41:39,061
[Narrator] On
November 16th, 2007,

744
00:41:39,104 --> 00:41:41,977
after deliberating
for over 27 hours,

745
00:41:42,020 --> 00:41:44,240
the jury returns
with the verdict.

746
00:41:44,283 --> 00:41:46,155
[suspenseful music]

747
00:41:46,198 --> 00:41:49,201
[Jury Spokesperson] We the
jury do find the defendant,

748
00:41:49,245 --> 00:41:54,076
Moe M. Gibbs, guilty
of the crime of murder.

749
00:41:54,119 --> 00:41:56,078
[compelling music]

750
00:41:56,121 --> 00:41:58,297
[Narrator] For killing
Mindy Morgenstern,

751
00:41:58,341 --> 00:42:01,823
Moe Gibbs is sentenced
to life without parole.

752
00:42:01,866 --> 00:42:04,565
[compelling music]

753
00:42:06,567 --> 00:42:10,135
He got a 12-year sentence
on the unsolved rape,

754
00:42:10,179 --> 00:42:14,575
and 15 years on the jail sexual
assaults that had happened.

755
00:42:17,926 --> 00:42:20,624
It was a relief that they
finally caught the person,

756
00:42:20,668 --> 00:42:22,452
that he wasn't gonna
be out there to do it

757
00:42:22,495 --> 00:42:24,410
to somebody else again.

758
00:42:24,454 --> 00:42:27,849
The fact that Moe Gibbs
is gonna be in prison,

759
00:42:27,892 --> 00:42:32,070
it was finally over with,
we could finally go on,

760
00:42:33,463 --> 00:42:35,552
and just try to
get through life,

761
00:42:35,596 --> 00:42:38,033
the rest of the
time that we had.

762
00:42:39,077 --> 00:42:40,862
Moe got what he deserved.

763
00:42:40,905 --> 00:42:45,388
Because of Mindy's
actions, and her strength,

764
00:42:45,431 --> 00:42:48,304
we were able to get
the DNA that we needed,

765
00:42:48,347 --> 00:42:51,350
and that DNA helped
us solve this case.

766
00:42:51,394 --> 00:42:53,875
[mournful music]

767
00:42:53,918 --> 00:42:56,094
[Narrator] Though
justice is served,

768
00:42:56,138 --> 00:42:59,445
nothing can dull the
pain of Mindy's loss.

769
00:43:01,056 --> 00:43:03,972
Oh, I miss Mindy
so much every day.

770
00:43:04,015 --> 00:43:05,408
You never get over it,

771
00:43:05,451 --> 00:43:08,150
but you go on, and
you pray for that time

772
00:43:08,193 --> 00:43:12,154
when you can see her again,
up there in the heavens.

773
00:43:12,197 --> 00:43:13,416
That's where I know she's at.

774
00:43:13,459 --> 00:43:16,245
[mournful music]

775
00:43:16,288 --> 00:43:19,204
I like to remember her smile.

776
00:43:19,248 --> 00:43:22,251
I have a picture of
her on my refrigerator,

777
00:43:22,294 --> 00:43:24,557
and the light just
radiates from her face,

778
00:43:24,601 --> 00:43:26,429
and she's so happy,

779
00:43:26,472 --> 00:43:28,518
and that's the way I
like to remember her.