1 00:00:02,828 --> 00:00:04,134 A vibrant and loving young mother. 2 00:00:04,134 --> 00:00:05,787 She was just an awesome person. 3 00:00:05,787 --> 00:00:09,530 She had a little feisty side to her 'cause of the redhead, 4 00:00:09,530 --> 00:00:12,707 but she was always looking out for everybody else. 5 00:00:13,882 --> 00:00:15,232 Is found savagely murdered 6 00:00:15,232 --> 00:00:17,321 inside an office building washroom. 7 00:00:17,321 --> 00:00:21,542 There was insulated electrical wire used to strangle her. 8 00:00:21,542 --> 00:00:23,849 It appeared that there had been a sexual assault. 9 00:00:26,286 --> 00:00:29,594 Detectives pursue multiple suspects. 10 00:00:29,594 --> 00:00:31,291 There were problems with the marriage. 11 00:00:31,291 --> 00:00:34,294 They had had issues. They had been arguing. 12 00:00:34,294 --> 00:00:37,384 He was in the building the night she was killed. 13 00:00:37,384 --> 00:00:41,345 His prints matched the prints inside the bathroom stall. 14 00:00:43,042 --> 00:00:46,001 And hunt down an elusive killer. 15 00:00:46,001 --> 00:00:47,916 We talked to the attorney who states that 16 00:00:47,916 --> 00:00:50,571 he is probably somewhere in South America. 17 00:00:50,571 --> 00:00:53,574 And I said, "Okay, where is he at? Can we get him?" 18 00:00:53,574 --> 00:00:56,011 That no one could have imagined. 19 00:00:56,011 --> 00:00:57,796 I was in shock. I couldn't believe it. 20 00:00:57,796 --> 00:01:02,061 It was very unexpected to see him as an actual killer. 21 00:01:13,420 --> 00:01:15,770 Known for its live music scene, 22 00:01:15,770 --> 00:01:17,163 Austin, Texas is also 23 00:01:17,163 --> 00:01:19,861 one of the safest big cities in the country. 24 00:01:21,211 --> 00:01:23,126 Austin's kind of one of those cool vibe cities, 25 00:01:23,126 --> 00:01:25,258 and it's just a very good mix of people. 26 00:01:25,258 --> 00:01:27,217 There's a lot of green belts 27 00:01:27,217 --> 00:01:30,133 and parks and creeks and trails. 28 00:01:30,133 --> 00:01:32,570 It's a really, a really neat place to live. 29 00:01:32,570 --> 00:01:37,314 Austin has not had the kind of crime and 30 00:01:37,314 --> 00:01:40,099 the volume of crime as other large cities. 31 00:01:40,099 --> 00:01:42,145 People do typically feel safe. 32 00:01:46,192 --> 00:01:49,195 But, in 1983, the town is rocked 33 00:01:49,195 --> 00:01:52,677 when a local businessman makes a gruesome discovery. 34 00:01:54,331 --> 00:01:57,725 In the early morning hours of September 20th, 1983, 35 00:01:57,725 --> 00:02:00,206 the Austin Police Department received a 911 call. 36 00:02:00,206 --> 00:02:02,208 One of the tenants of an office complex 37 00:02:02,208 --> 00:02:03,601 had come in in the morning 38 00:02:03,601 --> 00:02:06,125 and discovered things were out of place. 39 00:02:06,125 --> 00:02:07,996 There was a cleaning cart out in the hallway, 40 00:02:07,996 --> 00:02:09,998 so he went to try to find out 41 00:02:09,998 --> 00:02:11,913 if anyone else was still in the building. 42 00:02:11,913 --> 00:02:14,177 He did discover a deceased female 43 00:02:14,177 --> 00:02:15,874 in the upstairs men's restroom. 44 00:02:18,268 --> 00:02:20,879 The 911 caller did not know her name, 45 00:02:20,879 --> 00:02:22,097 but he recognized her 46 00:02:22,097 --> 00:02:23,882 as the woman who did clean the building. 47 00:02:24,883 --> 00:02:27,233 Police are dispatched to the scene. 48 00:02:27,233 --> 00:02:30,193 When we located the female victim in the men's restroom, 49 00:02:30,193 --> 00:02:32,804 she was positioned inside of the stall. 50 00:02:32,804 --> 00:02:37,243 She was undressed and there was insulated electrical wire 51 00:02:37,243 --> 00:02:40,333 that had small loops tied on the ends of them. 52 00:02:40,333 --> 00:02:42,857 Detectives believed that electrical wire 53 00:02:42,857 --> 00:02:47,471 was used to strangle her and be the cause of her death. 54 00:02:47,471 --> 00:02:50,865 It appeared because she had no defensive wounds at all 55 00:02:50,865 --> 00:02:54,304 that the killer came up from behind and surprised her. 56 00:02:55,435 --> 00:02:56,697 Everything in the crime scene suggested that 57 00:02:56,697 --> 00:02:58,786 this was a violent attack. 58 00:02:58,786 --> 00:03:00,440 There was wet toilet paper 59 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,138 inside of her nose and her mouth. 60 00:03:03,138 --> 00:03:04,488 It stands to reason 61 00:03:04,488 --> 00:03:07,708 the killer put that in her mouth and her nose 62 00:03:07,708 --> 00:03:09,536 after he strangled her 63 00:03:09,536 --> 00:03:12,626 to ensure that she was good and dead. 64 00:03:13,627 --> 00:03:16,282 There was bodily fluid and clothing 65 00:03:16,282 --> 00:03:20,243 that made it appear as if she was drug across the floor. 66 00:03:21,331 --> 00:03:23,898 Her clothes were scattered amongst the restroom 67 00:03:23,898 --> 00:03:26,553 and it appeared that there had been a sexual assault. 68 00:03:27,641 --> 00:03:30,209 The victim was identified by an ID 69 00:03:30,209 --> 00:03:32,516 that was found inside of her purse. 70 00:03:32,516 --> 00:03:35,910 She was Laurie Stout, a 22-year-old female from Austin. 71 00:03:38,478 --> 00:03:40,611 While forensics collect samples, 72 00:03:40,611 --> 00:03:43,048 investigators look for other evidence 73 00:03:43,048 --> 00:03:44,919 left behind by the killer. 74 00:03:44,919 --> 00:03:46,486 A significant fingerprint 75 00:03:46,486 --> 00:03:49,446 was located in the men's stall of the restroom. 76 00:03:49,446 --> 00:03:51,970 When dragging her in there, 77 00:03:51,970 --> 00:03:53,493 the person would almost have to 78 00:03:53,493 --> 00:03:58,498 brace themselves on the wall of the inside of the stall. 79 00:03:59,456 --> 00:04:00,892 The print inside the bathroom stall 80 00:04:00,892 --> 00:04:04,722 matched a print on the second-floor fire escape, 81 00:04:04,722 --> 00:04:08,421 so the two of those were pretty significant. 82 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,119 Had the killer fled through the fire escape 83 00:04:11,119 --> 00:04:13,078 after committing the murder? 84 00:04:14,253 --> 00:04:16,168 Detectives head down to the parking lot, 85 00:04:16,168 --> 00:04:18,039 looking for more clues. 86 00:04:18,039 --> 00:04:21,260 They found that there was a spool 87 00:04:21,260 --> 00:04:23,349 that was used for insulated 88 00:04:23,349 --> 00:04:27,048 electrical wiring, inside the dumpster, 89 00:04:27,048 --> 00:04:30,617 they also found some looser pieces 90 00:04:30,617 --> 00:04:35,361 of the same type of wiring that was used to kill the victim. 91 00:04:35,361 --> 00:04:38,625 Detectives bag the items for analysis. 92 00:04:38,625 --> 00:04:41,367 Back inside, police start piecing together 93 00:04:41,367 --> 00:04:45,066 a theory of who could have committed this horrible act. 94 00:04:45,066 --> 00:04:48,592 The fact that the victim was killed inside the building 95 00:04:48,592 --> 00:04:52,596 in the middle of the night suggested that whoever did this 96 00:04:52,596 --> 00:04:55,555 had access or a key to get in it. 97 00:04:56,469 --> 00:04:58,036 Detectives canvass the building 98 00:04:58,036 --> 00:04:59,603 and talk to employees, 99 00:04:59,603 --> 00:05:03,346 but determine that no one had seen anything suspicious. 100 00:05:03,346 --> 00:05:05,391 We were able to talk with two witnesses 101 00:05:05,391 --> 00:05:09,090 that saw Laurie at about 13:30 a.m. as they locked up 102 00:05:09,090 --> 00:05:11,354 and secured the building and left. 103 00:05:12,267 --> 00:05:15,140 We know that she was last seen alive 104 00:05:15,140 --> 00:05:16,924 around 12:30 in the morning, 105 00:05:16,924 --> 00:05:19,536 and the employee at the building 106 00:05:19,536 --> 00:05:21,538 discovered her body around 8 a.m., 107 00:05:21,538 --> 00:05:25,106 so she died some time during that time frame. 108 00:05:26,107 --> 00:05:28,501 Just as investigators are finishing up, 109 00:05:28,501 --> 00:05:31,330 a frantic man arrives at the scene. 110 00:05:31,330 --> 00:05:33,854 He identifies himself as Gary Stout 111 00:05:33,854 --> 00:05:36,901 and demands to know where his wife Laurie is. 112 00:05:38,076 --> 00:05:40,905 Gary Stout told detectives he woke up that morning 113 00:05:40,905 --> 00:05:44,561 and discovered that his wife was not home yet from work. 114 00:05:44,561 --> 00:05:47,390 He got worried and he drove up to the building, 115 00:05:47,390 --> 00:05:49,435 which was a short distance away, 116 00:05:49,435 --> 00:05:52,264 and discovered her car still in the parking lot, 117 00:05:52,264 --> 00:05:54,919 but it was surrounded by numerous police cars. 118 00:05:54,919 --> 00:05:57,400 It was at that point that the police spoke with him 119 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,924 and broke the news that his wife was found dead. 120 00:06:02,056 --> 00:06:05,538 He was obviously traumatized by what had happened. 121 00:06:06,452 --> 00:06:07,671 As police take Gary 122 00:06:07,671 --> 00:06:09,890 down to the station for questioning, 123 00:06:09,890 --> 00:06:12,284 the devastating news soon spreads 124 00:06:12,284 --> 00:06:14,199 to the rest of Laurie's family. 125 00:06:14,199 --> 00:06:16,549 I was in shock. I couldn't believe it. 126 00:06:17,289 --> 00:06:18,943 My whole world changed. 127 00:06:20,597 --> 00:06:22,076 I no longer had my confidante. 128 00:06:22,076 --> 00:06:25,819 I no longer had my best friend. It was horrible, horrible. 129 00:06:27,125 --> 00:06:29,997 When we found out that Laurie had been killed, 130 00:06:29,997 --> 00:06:31,521 it was a big impact. 131 00:06:31,521 --> 00:06:32,957 It was overwhelming. 132 00:06:35,655 --> 00:06:38,658 Born in Arlington, Virginia in 1960, 133 00:06:38,658 --> 00:06:42,445 Laurie Coffey was a naturally warm and caring soul. 134 00:06:42,445 --> 00:06:46,231 Laurie was the oldest of Laurie, myself, and T.J. 135 00:06:46,231 --> 00:06:49,582 She was kind of the mother hen of us all. 136 00:06:49,582 --> 00:06:53,281 She had a little feisty side to her 137 00:06:53,281 --> 00:06:54,674 and I think maybe because of the redhead, 138 00:06:54,674 --> 00:06:57,721 but she was always looking out for everybody else. 139 00:06:57,721 --> 00:07:01,507 She was just an awesome person. She really, truly was. 140 00:07:01,507 --> 00:07:04,118 Laurie was the leader of us three musketeers, 141 00:07:04,118 --> 00:07:05,555 me, Beverly and Laurie, 142 00:07:07,034 --> 00:07:10,429 and she kept us going. 143 00:07:11,561 --> 00:07:12,997 After moving to Austin 144 00:07:12,997 --> 00:07:14,477 with her mother and siblings, 145 00:07:14,477 --> 00:07:17,697 in 1977, Laurie met Gary Stout, 146 00:07:17,697 --> 00:07:20,004 who worked logistics for the military. 147 00:07:20,744 --> 00:07:22,528 It all flourished very fast. 148 00:07:22,528 --> 00:07:26,967 She was so giddy about Gary and they fell in love. 149 00:07:26,967 --> 00:07:28,752 All in all, he just seemed like a good guy, 150 00:07:28,752 --> 00:07:32,973 so we were all, you know, okay, so this is it. 151 00:07:32,973 --> 00:07:34,932 After a whirlwind courtship, 152 00:07:34,932 --> 00:07:37,630 Laurie and Gary married the following year. 153 00:07:37,630 --> 00:07:40,807 Three years later, Laurie became pregnant. 154 00:07:40,807 --> 00:07:44,071 She was over the moon. Very, very happy. 155 00:07:44,071 --> 00:07:45,464 I mean, that's what she wanted. 156 00:07:45,464 --> 00:07:47,248 She wanted to be married, start having a family, 157 00:07:47,248 --> 00:07:49,555 and she was on her way. 158 00:07:50,817 --> 00:07:52,515 But Laurie is soon forced to face 159 00:07:52,515 --> 00:07:55,648 the harsh realities of military family life. 160 00:07:55,648 --> 00:08:00,000 Gary got orders to go to Belgium. She was very sad. 161 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,699 Laurie was sad that Gary was gone overseas, 162 00:08:02,699 --> 00:08:07,051 and here she was, facing having a baby on her own at home. 163 00:08:08,182 --> 00:08:12,360 On January 26th, 1982, while Gary is away, 164 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,189 Laurie gives birth to a baby girl. 165 00:08:15,189 --> 00:08:17,148 Laurie had a really easy labor, 166 00:08:17,148 --> 00:08:19,890 and, you know, now we have this little baby. 167 00:08:19,890 --> 00:08:23,067 And, of course, she was ecstatic. 168 00:08:24,503 --> 00:08:26,549 I think that she very much enjoyed being a mother. 169 00:08:26,549 --> 00:08:28,115 I think that she experienced 170 00:08:28,115 --> 00:08:32,424 probably the happiest months of her life after I was born. 171 00:08:32,424 --> 00:08:35,079 In order to spend more time with his family, 172 00:08:35,079 --> 00:08:36,646 Gary left the military 173 00:08:36,646 --> 00:08:39,562 and took a job as a maintenance worker in the same building 174 00:08:39,562 --> 00:08:41,651 where Laurie worked nights as a cleaner. 175 00:08:41,651 --> 00:08:43,914 She was very excited that he was coming home. 176 00:08:43,914 --> 00:08:48,614 That's all she wanted, just to be a mom and wife, homemaker. 177 00:08:49,789 --> 00:08:51,791 With her life finally on track, 178 00:08:51,791 --> 00:08:53,663 how did this loving young mother 179 00:08:53,663 --> 00:08:56,404 become the victim of a cold-blooded killer? 180 00:08:56,404 --> 00:08:57,884 As with any investigation, 181 00:08:57,884 --> 00:08:59,712 we have to look at those that are closest to the victim 182 00:08:59,712 --> 00:09:01,714 and those that have motive. 183 00:09:01,714 --> 00:09:02,933 As an employee of the building, 184 00:09:02,933 --> 00:09:05,022 a maintenance worker there, Gary had access. 185 00:09:06,110 --> 00:09:07,633 Down at the station, 186 00:09:07,633 --> 00:09:10,593 police question Gary about his marriage to Laurie. 187 00:09:11,811 --> 00:09:14,640 When we asked him about any problems in the relationship, 188 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,730 he quickly admitted that they had had issues. 189 00:09:17,730 --> 00:09:20,559 They had been arguing and were unhappy. 190 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,082 Detectives discovered that 191 00:09:22,082 --> 00:09:26,347 Laurie actually went and stayed with her sister Beverly 192 00:09:26,347 --> 00:09:28,654 shortly before the murder happened 193 00:09:28,654 --> 00:09:33,398 because of a really big argument that she had with Gary. 194 00:09:34,747 --> 00:09:37,620 Things were not going all that well for her and Gary, 195 00:09:37,620 --> 00:09:39,622 and she was miserable. 196 00:09:40,535 --> 00:09:42,668 This definitely created a concern 197 00:09:42,668 --> 00:09:45,192 that there were problems with the marriage. 198 00:09:45,192 --> 00:09:48,195 So, knowing that he has access and motive, 199 00:09:48,195 --> 00:09:49,893 it raises the level of suspicion 200 00:09:49,893 --> 00:09:52,635 that he could have been involved in this crime. 201 00:09:54,724 --> 00:09:55,855 Coming up, 202 00:09:55,855 --> 00:09:58,771 detectives uncover disturbing secrets. 203 00:10:00,643 --> 00:10:02,601 He wasn't happy in his relationship 204 00:10:02,601 --> 00:10:05,778 and he admitted that he was looking at leaving her. 205 00:10:06,910 --> 00:10:11,784 Laurie's family felt very strongly that he was the killer. 206 00:10:12,655 --> 00:10:13,786 Before a shocking tip 207 00:10:13,786 --> 00:10:16,093 takes police in a whole new direction. 208 00:10:16,093 --> 00:10:18,835 We received information from a female victim 209 00:10:18,835 --> 00:10:22,839 of a man that committed a similar attack against her. 210 00:10:22,839 --> 00:10:26,538 This is a big turning point in the investigation. 211 00:10:26,538 --> 00:10:28,496 Could this be a serial rapist? 212 00:10:28,496 --> 00:10:30,498 Could it be a serial murderer? 213 00:10:30,498 --> 00:10:31,674 And has detectives 214 00:10:31,674 --> 00:10:34,024 risking it all to catch a killer. 215 00:10:34,024 --> 00:10:35,503 We knew it was going to have to be 216 00:10:35,503 --> 00:10:36,983 something big for us to find him. 217 00:10:36,983 --> 00:10:38,158 We were holding our breath. 218 00:10:38,158 --> 00:10:39,594 We weren't sure it was going to happen. 219 00:10:48,342 --> 00:10:49,692 Police investigating 220 00:10:49,692 --> 00:10:52,782 the murder of 22-year-old mother Laurie Stout 221 00:10:52,782 --> 00:10:57,482 are questioning their first suspect, her husband, Gary. 222 00:10:57,482 --> 00:10:58,744 When Gary was being interviewed, 223 00:10:58,744 --> 00:11:00,137 he was very forthcoming 224 00:11:00,137 --> 00:11:03,923 about the poor state of his marriage with Laurie, 225 00:11:03,923 --> 00:11:07,405 so it was a little bit of a red flag. 226 00:11:07,405 --> 00:11:08,798 At this point in the investigation, 227 00:11:08,798 --> 00:11:10,756 we need additional information about problems that 228 00:11:10,756 --> 00:11:12,366 may be in their relationship. 229 00:11:13,933 --> 00:11:18,155 Laurie and Gary were happy when they first got married. 230 00:11:18,155 --> 00:11:21,680 She was proud to be a wife. That's all she wanted. 231 00:11:21,680 --> 00:11:22,855 But things changed 232 00:11:22,855 --> 00:11:25,292 when Gary returned from overseas. 233 00:11:25,292 --> 00:11:29,253 Laurie wanted it to just be like it was before he left, 234 00:11:29,253 --> 00:11:32,169 and, unfortunately, that was not the case. 235 00:11:33,083 --> 00:11:34,649 So, knowing the family's account 236 00:11:34,649 --> 00:11:35,912 of their relationship as well, 237 00:11:35,912 --> 00:11:37,609 knowing that it was a volatile relationship, 238 00:11:37,609 --> 00:11:39,698 created concern that he could have been 239 00:11:39,698 --> 00:11:42,701 frustrated with Laurie and committed this type of act. 240 00:11:42,701 --> 00:11:44,181 When detectives press Gary 241 00:11:44,181 --> 00:11:47,706 for details about why his marriage was falling apart, 242 00:11:47,706 --> 00:11:50,187 he makes an alarming confession. 243 00:11:50,187 --> 00:11:53,886 He admitted that he had actually had an affair 244 00:11:54,974 --> 00:11:57,194 and was looking at leaving Laurie. 245 00:11:58,586 --> 00:11:59,805 Gary tells detectives 246 00:11:59,805 --> 00:12:01,981 that he met a woman while overseas, 247 00:12:01,981 --> 00:12:04,679 and that she had since come to visit him in Austin. 248 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:06,769 At this point, the detectives are wondering, 249 00:12:06,769 --> 00:12:08,771 does Gary want Laurie out of the picture, 250 00:12:08,771 --> 00:12:12,818 given the very bad state of their marriage 251 00:12:12,818 --> 00:12:14,080 and the fact that he wants to be with 252 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,430 this woman he's having an affair with? 253 00:12:17,736 --> 00:12:18,868 Gary explains that 254 00:12:18,868 --> 00:12:21,261 he ultimately chose to stay with Laurie, 255 00:12:21,261 --> 00:12:24,438 but detective's become even more suspicious 256 00:12:24,438 --> 00:12:26,789 after they ask him for an alibi. 257 00:12:26,789 --> 00:12:29,052 He stated that, the night before, 258 00:12:29,052 --> 00:12:30,836 he and Laurie had had an argument, 259 00:12:30,836 --> 00:12:32,882 so she went and slept on the couch. 260 00:12:32,882 --> 00:12:34,840 At one point, she finally just got up 261 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:36,799 in the early morning hours, went to work. 262 00:12:37,930 --> 00:12:39,671 Gary did not have an alibi that we could confirm. 263 00:12:39,671 --> 00:12:42,805 He was at home with a young child asleep. 264 00:12:42,805 --> 00:12:44,850 He could have left his house, 265 00:12:44,850 --> 00:12:46,199 gone up to the building, and come back. 266 00:12:46,199 --> 00:12:49,115 That would not be something we could verify. 267 00:12:49,115 --> 00:12:53,772 So the marital difficulties and now we've got a big fight, 268 00:12:53,772 --> 00:12:57,036 and Gary having access to the building. 269 00:12:57,036 --> 00:12:59,560 He's somebody that they're looking at pretty hard. 270 00:13:00,474 --> 00:13:01,911 Detectives ask Gary 271 00:13:01,911 --> 00:13:04,000 to provide samples of his blood and fingerprints 272 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,872 to be compared with evidence found at the crime scene. 273 00:13:06,872 --> 00:13:08,091 He was cooperative with us. 274 00:13:08,091 --> 00:13:10,963 He provided the samples that were requested. 275 00:13:10,963 --> 00:13:13,400 Looking further into Gary's movements 276 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,011 leading up to the murder, 277 00:13:15,011 --> 00:13:17,927 investigators reach out to his boss at the office building. 278 00:13:17,927 --> 00:13:20,973 The manager of the building informed the detectives that 279 00:13:20,973 --> 00:13:24,020 Gary had fixed a water heater 280 00:13:24,020 --> 00:13:26,413 the day before Laurie was killed, 281 00:13:26,413 --> 00:13:30,026 and he used the same type of electrical wiring 282 00:13:30,026 --> 00:13:32,463 that was used to kill Laurie. 283 00:13:32,463 --> 00:13:36,467 This was another extremely big flag in the case. 284 00:13:36,467 --> 00:13:37,947 All these things together 285 00:13:37,947 --> 00:13:41,341 really raised the suspicion that this is the guy. 286 00:13:41,341 --> 00:13:44,431 As police wait for forensic testing results, 287 00:13:44,431 --> 00:13:46,477 Laurie's autopsy report comes in. 288 00:13:46,477 --> 00:13:50,394 Laurie's cause of death was, in fact, strangulation, 289 00:13:50,394 --> 00:13:54,789 and that seemed to match the ligature found at the scene. 290 00:13:54,789 --> 00:13:56,617 What was determined is that 291 00:13:56,617 --> 00:13:58,663 a sexual assault had taken place. 292 00:13:58,663 --> 00:14:01,709 They were able to get a sample of semen. 293 00:14:01,709 --> 00:14:03,842 However, this is 1983, 294 00:14:03,842 --> 00:14:07,150 so there was no DNA testing available. 295 00:14:07,150 --> 00:14:11,937 In order to do any comparison, we use blood type antigens. 296 00:14:11,937 --> 00:14:13,852 This kind of evidence is helpful in 297 00:14:13,852 --> 00:14:16,550 narrowing down the field of suspects. 298 00:14:17,987 --> 00:14:21,468 When we found out how Laurie was actually killed, 299 00:14:21,468 --> 00:14:22,556 it was disturbing. 300 00:14:23,862 --> 00:14:26,386 First thought to my mind, one sick individual. 301 00:14:27,431 --> 00:14:30,869 One very sick individual that did it. 302 00:14:30,869 --> 00:14:32,001 Pure evil. 303 00:14:33,263 --> 00:14:34,394 Absolute pure evil. 304 00:14:35,265 --> 00:14:36,875 Detectives eagerly receive 305 00:14:36,875 --> 00:14:40,009 the results of Gary's fingerprints and blood tests, 306 00:14:40,009 --> 00:14:42,185 but they are far from conclusive. 307 00:14:42,185 --> 00:14:44,143 Gary's fingerprints did not match 308 00:14:44,143 --> 00:14:46,015 the one inside the stall, 309 00:14:46,015 --> 00:14:48,365 but did match prints in the building, 310 00:14:48,365 --> 00:14:51,977 but he has access to the building and he is working there. 311 00:14:51,977 --> 00:14:57,243 His blood type, it matches the type found in the semen, 312 00:14:58,157 --> 00:14:59,550 but, of course, Gary is married to Laurie, 313 00:14:59,550 --> 00:15:03,032 so it's another piece of evidence that can go both ways. 314 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,209 Ultimately, we couldn't use fingerprints 315 00:15:06,209 --> 00:15:09,168 or any blood work to exclude him. 316 00:15:09,168 --> 00:15:10,604 Running out of options, 317 00:15:10,604 --> 00:15:14,565 detectives try one last method to get to the truth. 318 00:15:14,565 --> 00:15:15,740 Gary Stout was provided 319 00:15:15,740 --> 00:15:17,307 an opportunity to take a polygraph. 320 00:15:17,307 --> 00:15:19,048 During that interview, he was asked 321 00:15:19,048 --> 00:15:21,964 if he was responsible for the murder of Laurie 322 00:15:21,964 --> 00:15:23,922 and he advised he wasn't. 323 00:15:23,922 --> 00:15:25,228 The results of that polygraph 324 00:15:25,228 --> 00:15:27,099 indicated that he was being truthful 325 00:15:27,099 --> 00:15:28,753 and there was no deception. 326 00:15:28,753 --> 00:15:31,886 Detectives were surprised that Gary passed a polygraph. 327 00:15:31,886 --> 00:15:35,020 Now, detectives have motive, they have access, 328 00:15:35,020 --> 00:15:37,936 but no evidence conclusively to show that 329 00:15:37,936 --> 00:15:39,720 Gary is, in fact, the killer. 330 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:41,592 With nothing to hold him on, 331 00:15:41,592 --> 00:15:43,289 Gary is free to go. 332 00:15:43,289 --> 00:15:47,032 At this point, Gary is not ruled out as a suspect, 333 00:15:47,032 --> 00:15:50,340 but he takes a little bit more of a back seat. 334 00:15:50,340 --> 00:15:52,037 Looking for new leads, 335 00:15:52,037 --> 00:15:54,039 investigators turn their focus 336 00:15:54,039 --> 00:15:56,085 back to the numerous employees 337 00:15:56,085 --> 00:15:59,088 who work at the building where Laurie was killed. 338 00:15:59,871 --> 00:16:01,046 What's difficult, 339 00:16:01,046 --> 00:16:02,526 particularly about a public space like this, 340 00:16:02,526 --> 00:16:04,267 is so many people have access. 341 00:16:04,267 --> 00:16:08,053 We talked to everybody that was a tenant in that building, 342 00:16:08,053 --> 00:16:10,273 and started working our way through that process. 343 00:16:10,273 --> 00:16:12,188 Many of those folks were excluded 344 00:16:12,188 --> 00:16:14,538 based on fingerprints, evidence, 345 00:16:14,538 --> 00:16:17,802 everything else that could really put them to the side. 346 00:16:17,802 --> 00:16:20,283 But police learn that the building's tenants 347 00:16:20,283 --> 00:16:23,677 weren't the only ones who had access that night. 348 00:16:23,677 --> 00:16:25,244 We discovered that registration 349 00:16:25,244 --> 00:16:27,159 was being conducted from the University of Texas, 350 00:16:27,159 --> 00:16:29,988 a satellite location at this office complex, 351 00:16:29,988 --> 00:16:31,772 and they stayed late after hours 352 00:16:31,772 --> 00:16:33,165 so that folks could come after work 353 00:16:33,165 --> 00:16:34,601 to sign up late into the evening. 354 00:16:34,601 --> 00:16:36,777 So this was definitely something of interest for us. 355 00:16:36,777 --> 00:16:40,912 Detectives were able to get the names of the male students 356 00:16:40,912 --> 00:16:43,088 who had gone in that night, 357 00:16:43,088 --> 00:16:46,091 and they had them come down to the police department, 358 00:16:46,091 --> 00:16:49,747 and they got fingerprints of these individuals. 359 00:16:50,965 --> 00:16:52,532 Police process the fingerprints 360 00:16:52,532 --> 00:16:57,233 of over a dozen students, and receive an alarming result. 361 00:16:57,233 --> 00:16:59,148 We were able to rule everyone out on the list, 362 00:16:59,148 --> 00:17:00,801 with the exception of one. 363 00:17:00,801 --> 00:17:04,153 We had a match of the fingerprint inside the men's restroom, 364 00:17:04,153 --> 00:17:06,503 as well as a fire escape door, 365 00:17:06,503 --> 00:17:09,767 so this person is somebody we want to talk to and interview. 366 00:17:19,733 --> 00:17:21,257 Detectives 367 00:17:21,257 --> 00:17:23,346 the brutal murder of Laurie Stout 368 00:17:23,346 --> 00:17:26,131 have just matched a set of crime scene fingerprints 369 00:17:26,131 --> 00:17:28,786 with someone who was in the building that night. 370 00:17:29,874 --> 00:17:31,441 The University of Texas 371 00:17:31,441 --> 00:17:34,531 was having a sign-up registration at the satellite campus, 372 00:17:34,531 --> 00:17:37,142 which allowed people to come after hours 373 00:17:37,142 --> 00:17:38,230 in the evenings after work 374 00:17:38,230 --> 00:17:40,363 in order to get signed up for classes, 375 00:17:40,363 --> 00:17:43,148 so we start going through the list of registrants. 376 00:17:43,148 --> 00:17:45,150 Detectives were able to determine that 377 00:17:45,150 --> 00:17:49,154 there was one student whose prints matched the prints 378 00:17:49,154 --> 00:17:51,896 inside the bathroom stall where Laurie was found, 379 00:17:51,896 --> 00:17:56,379 and also on the fire escape door on that second floor. 380 00:17:57,510 --> 00:17:59,773 That individual was identified as Robert Van Wisse 381 00:17:59,773 --> 00:18:01,035 and he was 18 years old. 382 00:18:02,385 --> 00:18:04,169 Investigators interview Robert 383 00:18:04,169 --> 00:18:07,303 about his movements on the night Laurie was killed. 384 00:18:08,434 --> 00:18:10,610 He told us that he had been there for registration 385 00:18:10,610 --> 00:18:13,700 and on his way out he used the men's restroom upstairs. 386 00:18:13,700 --> 00:18:16,486 Once he was done in the restroom, he exited the fire escape 387 00:18:16,486 --> 00:18:19,445 because it was closer to where his vehicle was parked, 388 00:18:19,445 --> 00:18:22,274 which would explain why his fingerprints were found 389 00:18:22,274 --> 00:18:24,798 in the men's stall and the fire escape door. 390 00:18:25,712 --> 00:18:27,279 Robert Van Wisse did acknowledge that 391 00:18:27,279 --> 00:18:31,065 he saw the cleaning lady, which was our victim, Laurie, 392 00:18:31,065 --> 00:18:33,285 after using the bathroom on the second floor, 393 00:18:33,285 --> 00:18:35,679 before he exited the building. 394 00:18:36,636 --> 00:18:38,116 Robert tells detectives 395 00:18:38,116 --> 00:18:41,467 that he left the building at around 12:15 a.m. 396 00:18:41,467 --> 00:18:44,514 Before investigators look to verify his story, 397 00:18:44,514 --> 00:18:46,516 they ask Robert for a blood sample 398 00:18:46,516 --> 00:18:49,519 to compare to the semen found at the crime scene. 399 00:18:51,216 --> 00:18:52,609 Robert Van Wisse was cooperative. 400 00:18:52,609 --> 00:18:54,611 He gave the blood sample at the time 401 00:18:54,611 --> 00:18:57,657 and the detectives submitted it for testing. 402 00:18:57,657 --> 00:18:59,093 There is nothing that we discover 403 00:18:59,093 --> 00:19:01,183 on Robert Van Wisse's criminal history 404 00:19:01,183 --> 00:19:03,185 or anything else that causes concern. 405 00:19:03,185 --> 00:19:06,275 It appears he's had no contact with law enforcement 406 00:19:06,275 --> 00:19:08,451 and no violent offenses in the past. 407 00:19:09,626 --> 00:19:14,021 He came from a family that is very well-respected. 408 00:19:14,021 --> 00:19:17,111 His parents are pretty well-known surgeons 409 00:19:17,111 --> 00:19:18,591 in the Austin area. 410 00:19:18,591 --> 00:19:21,594 There didn't seem to be anything that would suggest him 411 00:19:21,594 --> 00:19:24,728 to behave in this kind of violent way. 412 00:19:25,642 --> 00:19:27,121 While they wait for the results, 413 00:19:27,121 --> 00:19:28,514 detectives look for anyone 414 00:19:28,514 --> 00:19:31,256 who can corroborate Robert's story. 415 00:19:31,256 --> 00:19:32,605 Detectives interviewed 416 00:19:32,605 --> 00:19:35,739 two employees of the education office, 417 00:19:35,739 --> 00:19:37,219 and they confirmed that 418 00:19:37,219 --> 00:19:39,917 they saw Robert Van Wisse leave the building at 12:15. 419 00:19:39,917 --> 00:19:42,528 We know Laurie was still alive, because there were witnesses 420 00:19:42,528 --> 00:19:44,922 that confirmed she was alive at 12:30. 421 00:19:46,010 --> 00:19:47,229 With Robert looking 422 00:19:47,229 --> 00:19:49,448 less and less like a viable suspect, 423 00:19:49,448 --> 00:19:51,842 his blood test results come in. 424 00:19:51,842 --> 00:19:54,236 The analysis of the blood sample told us that 425 00:19:54,236 --> 00:19:55,541 Robert was not a match 426 00:19:55,541 --> 00:19:57,891 to the bodily fluids found at the crime scene. 427 00:19:58,588 --> 00:19:59,676 The discovery means 428 00:19:59,676 --> 00:20:02,287 there is no hard evidence against Robert, 429 00:20:02,287 --> 00:20:04,333 and they are forced to let him go. 430 00:20:04,333 --> 00:20:06,248 Robert Van Wisse was ruled out 431 00:20:06,248 --> 00:20:07,945 and eliminated as a suspect. 432 00:20:10,339 --> 00:20:13,907 With no new leads, the investigation falters. 433 00:20:13,907 --> 00:20:18,651 As weeks pass with no arrests, fear in the community grows. 434 00:20:18,651 --> 00:20:21,480 The nature of the crime had created a lot of panic 435 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,613 for residents, particularly females. 436 00:20:23,613 --> 00:20:26,616 It was difficult because there was no resolution. 437 00:20:26,616 --> 00:20:29,009 It left a lot of fear in the community. 438 00:20:29,009 --> 00:20:32,143 The police felt pressure to find out 439 00:20:32,143 --> 00:20:35,015 who was responsible for Laurie's death. 440 00:20:35,015 --> 00:20:37,322 I mean, this was a totally 441 00:20:37,322 --> 00:20:41,283 innocent mother, 22 years old, 442 00:20:41,283 --> 00:20:44,851 taken from her family in a very violent attack. 443 00:20:44,851 --> 00:20:48,681 The people in and around that area where she was killed, 444 00:20:48,681 --> 00:20:51,597 they were interested in knowing what was going on. 445 00:20:51,597 --> 00:20:54,861 It was tough on our family. It is very frustrating. 446 00:20:54,861 --> 00:20:58,822 There's somebody out there that has taken a life and 447 00:20:59,736 --> 00:21:03,609 you want that person to be held accountable. 448 00:21:04,958 --> 00:21:06,351 Any time there's a crime committed like this, 449 00:21:06,351 --> 00:21:09,398 there's an inherent pressure to solve it 450 00:21:09,398 --> 00:21:12,096 to try to bring some closure and some comfort 451 00:21:12,096 --> 00:21:14,316 to the family and to the community. 452 00:21:14,316 --> 00:21:16,753 A person that could do something like this, 453 00:21:16,753 --> 00:21:22,019 that's not somebody that's gonna stop at that one act. 454 00:21:23,194 --> 00:21:24,500 Typically speaking, that person is gonna 455 00:21:24,500 --> 00:21:28,286 continue to hurt other people. 456 00:21:28,286 --> 00:21:29,635 We're always worried that 457 00:21:29,635 --> 00:21:32,421 he could continue to commit these kinds of acts 458 00:21:32,421 --> 00:21:34,074 until he's brought to justice. 459 00:21:36,599 --> 00:21:38,514 One month after Laurie's murder, 460 00:21:38,514 --> 00:21:41,386 police receive a promising new lead. 461 00:21:41,386 --> 00:21:44,520 We received information from a female victim 462 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:48,611 of a man that committed a similar attack against her. 463 00:21:48,611 --> 00:21:51,178 The victim was sexually assaulted and strangled, 464 00:21:51,178 --> 00:21:53,224 but she was able to get away. 465 00:21:53,224 --> 00:21:56,096 He mistakenly thought she was dead 466 00:21:56,096 --> 00:21:59,056 and she was able to identify him. 467 00:21:59,056 --> 00:22:01,014 That person's name was Darryl Kemp. 468 00:22:02,625 --> 00:22:04,801 Darryl Kemp, at that point, was in prison, 469 00:22:04,801 --> 00:22:08,370 but he was not in prison at the time that Laurie was killed. 470 00:22:08,370 --> 00:22:10,023 And so we started looking into this. 471 00:22:10,023 --> 00:22:12,765 We evaluated the information and started to determine 472 00:22:12,765 --> 00:22:17,030 if this could potentially be a suspect in this case. 473 00:22:17,030 --> 00:22:20,033 Police dig into Darryl Kemp's background 474 00:22:20,033 --> 00:22:22,514 and discover a disturbing pattern. 475 00:22:23,428 --> 00:22:24,647 It's determined that Darryl Kemp 476 00:22:24,647 --> 00:22:28,520 committed an attack in 1960, similar, 477 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:32,350 where the victim was sexually assaulted and strangled. 478 00:22:32,350 --> 00:22:36,398 He was convicted for the rape and murder 479 00:22:36,398 --> 00:22:39,531 of a woman named Marjorie Hipperson in California. 480 00:22:39,531 --> 00:22:41,925 He did receive the death penalty for that, 481 00:22:42,882 --> 00:22:46,016 but, later on, the death penalty got overturned. 482 00:22:46,016 --> 00:22:50,542 Ultimately, he was released and paroled in 1978. 483 00:22:50,542 --> 00:22:52,675 That's when Darryl Kemp moved to Austin. 484 00:22:52,675 --> 00:22:57,201 His M.O. matched, he's killed in this fashion before, 485 00:22:57,201 --> 00:23:00,160 and he was in Austin at the time, 486 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:01,553 so this is going to be somebody 487 00:23:01,553 --> 00:23:04,730 that detectives look at pretty intently. 488 00:23:04,730 --> 00:23:06,993 Could this be a serial rapist? 489 00:23:06,993 --> 00:23:08,255 Could it be a serial murderer? 490 00:23:09,648 --> 00:23:11,955 We had questions that we needed to get answers to. 491 00:23:20,137 --> 00:23:22,487 One month after young mother Laurie Stout 492 00:23:22,487 --> 00:23:25,229 was found raped and murdered in a bathroom stall, 493 00:23:25,229 --> 00:23:28,450 police are investigating a tip that she was the victim of 494 00:23:28,450 --> 00:23:31,757 convicted serial killer Darryl Kemp. 495 00:23:31,757 --> 00:23:33,846 Detectives at this time were thinking that 496 00:23:33,846 --> 00:23:36,936 Darryl Kemp was a strong possibility as a suspect 497 00:23:36,936 --> 00:23:39,635 because of the similar M.O, 498 00:23:39,635 --> 00:23:42,376 which was sexual assault and strangulation. 499 00:23:42,376 --> 00:23:43,943 Investigators learn that, 500 00:23:43,943 --> 00:23:47,469 although Darryl is currently in jail for an unrelated crime, 501 00:23:47,469 --> 00:23:50,472 he was a free man at the time Laurie was killed. 502 00:23:50,472 --> 00:23:53,475 Detectives head to prison to question him. 503 00:23:53,475 --> 00:23:54,606 The difficult part about 504 00:23:54,606 --> 00:23:56,042 interviewing somebody like Darryl Kemp is 505 00:23:56,042 --> 00:23:57,870 he's obviously been down this road before. 506 00:23:57,870 --> 00:24:00,743 He's got knowledge of how investigations work, 507 00:24:00,743 --> 00:24:03,485 and so information may be withheld 508 00:24:03,485 --> 00:24:05,487 or may not be genuine in his responses 509 00:24:05,487 --> 00:24:07,750 based on where he thinks or feels like 510 00:24:07,750 --> 00:24:09,708 your questions are leading him. 511 00:24:11,057 --> 00:24:13,495 Detectives start by questioning Darryl 512 00:24:13,495 --> 00:24:16,628 about where he was around the time of Laurie's murder. 513 00:24:16,628 --> 00:24:20,110 They're asking him questions that would help tie him 514 00:24:20,110 --> 00:24:24,549 or connect him to the area that the building was located in. 515 00:24:24,549 --> 00:24:25,942 They asked if he knew 516 00:24:25,942 --> 00:24:28,684 where this building was, where he lived, 517 00:24:28,684 --> 00:24:31,469 basically to try to put him in a geographical area, 518 00:24:31,469 --> 00:24:33,515 figure out where he frequented. 519 00:24:33,515 --> 00:24:34,994 Darryl tells investigators 520 00:24:34,994 --> 00:24:38,432 he wasn't near the office building where Laurie was killed 521 00:24:38,432 --> 00:24:40,478 and has no ties to the area. 522 00:24:40,478 --> 00:24:41,653 Darryl Kemp was asked 523 00:24:41,653 --> 00:24:43,307 if he was familiar with Laurie Stout. 524 00:24:43,307 --> 00:24:44,569 He said he wasn't. 525 00:24:44,569 --> 00:24:45,831 Things that we're trying to pay attention to is 526 00:24:45,831 --> 00:24:47,659 whether his statements are truthful. 527 00:24:47,659 --> 00:24:50,357 Does his body language support his statement? 528 00:24:50,357 --> 00:24:52,359 Does it appear he's being deceptive, 529 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,231 and is he forthcoming with his answers? 530 00:24:54,231 --> 00:24:57,364 Not trusting the word of a convicted killer, 531 00:24:57,364 --> 00:24:59,236 detectives shift gears. 532 00:25:00,106 --> 00:25:01,630 He was asked if he would take a polygraph. 533 00:25:01,630 --> 00:25:04,589 He hesitated with that because he didn't trust polygraphs. 534 00:25:04,589 --> 00:25:07,200 He is not cooperative at all. 535 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,421 It's the same story when investigators ask him 536 00:25:10,421 --> 00:25:12,728 for his fingerprints and a blood sample. 537 00:25:12,728 --> 00:25:14,817 Again, he was very uncooperative. 538 00:25:14,817 --> 00:25:16,470 Based on all the evidence collected, 539 00:25:16,470 --> 00:25:20,387 we had enough information to obtain a warrant. 540 00:25:20,387 --> 00:25:22,302 Police collect Darryl's samples 541 00:25:22,302 --> 00:25:24,696 and eagerly wait for the results. 542 00:25:26,132 --> 00:25:29,092 When the results of the analysis were returned, 543 00:25:29,092 --> 00:25:30,223 it was determined that 544 00:25:30,223 --> 00:25:32,486 he was not the suspect in this murder. 545 00:25:34,358 --> 00:25:35,707 It's very difficult and frustrating, 546 00:25:35,707 --> 00:25:37,796 because we're at a stalling point again. 547 00:25:37,796 --> 00:25:39,406 With no other leads, 548 00:25:39,406 --> 00:25:42,235 the case once again hits a wall. 549 00:25:42,235 --> 00:25:43,976 As the months turn into years, 550 00:25:43,976 --> 00:25:47,719 Laurie's loved ones struggle with the lack of closure. 551 00:25:47,719 --> 00:25:49,634 Why are we not getting any answers? 552 00:25:49,634 --> 00:25:50,983 You know, give us something. 553 00:25:50,983 --> 00:25:56,119 I myself have been lost without her. 554 00:25:57,511 --> 00:25:59,731 Every time October 1st rolls around, 555 00:25:59,731 --> 00:26:02,081 the first thing I think is, "Ah, it's Laurie's birthday." 556 00:26:02,081 --> 00:26:04,649 Any time when September comes around, 557 00:26:04,649 --> 00:26:06,303 when she was taken from us, 558 00:26:08,348 --> 00:26:09,567 it's not good. 559 00:26:09,567 --> 00:26:10,699 The suspicion that 560 00:26:10,699 --> 00:26:12,875 Laurie's husband Gary was the killer 561 00:26:12,875 --> 00:26:16,748 continues to linger and causes a deep divide. 562 00:26:16,748 --> 00:26:20,360 My mother's family, even members of his own family, 563 00:26:20,360 --> 00:26:22,798 believed that my dad was involved. 564 00:26:22,798 --> 00:26:24,713 We all still had that suspicion 565 00:26:24,713 --> 00:26:27,063 that Gary had something to do with it. 566 00:26:27,063 --> 00:26:29,456 Eventually, Gary takes Daile 567 00:26:29,456 --> 00:26:31,067 and moves out of state. 568 00:26:31,067 --> 00:26:33,896 Gary, he didn't want to have anything else to do with us. 569 00:26:33,896 --> 00:26:37,160 So it was like, oh my God, now we can't see Daile. 570 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:38,552 I lost my sister, 571 00:26:38,552 --> 00:26:40,772 but I also lost that connection with my niece. 572 00:26:41,860 --> 00:26:45,429 Being so young, she didn't really remember her mom, 573 00:26:45,429 --> 00:26:48,475 so it was probably quite hard on Daile. 574 00:26:48,475 --> 00:26:50,086 When I was growing up, 575 00:26:50,086 --> 00:26:52,131 there weren't a whole lot of conversations about my mother. 576 00:26:52,131 --> 00:26:55,918 It was just the understanding of she wasn't there anymore. 577 00:26:55,918 --> 00:26:57,659 As Daile grows older, 578 00:26:57,659 --> 00:26:59,791 she begins to ask questions. 579 00:26:59,791 --> 00:27:02,054 My dad did not like talking about it. 580 00:27:02,054 --> 00:27:05,492 I did not have a family member sit me down and explain to me 581 00:27:05,492 --> 00:27:07,494 that this is what had happened to her. 582 00:27:09,148 --> 00:27:13,500 It wasn't until I got older, got access to the internet, 583 00:27:13,500 --> 00:27:16,155 that's when I learned that she was attacked, 584 00:27:16,939 --> 00:27:18,418 that she had been strangled, 585 00:27:18,418 --> 00:27:20,856 that she had been raped, and then she had been murdered. 586 00:27:20,856 --> 00:27:25,164 It was very overwhelming, finding out about it in that way. 587 00:27:25,164 --> 00:27:27,863 Laurie's family continues to push for 588 00:27:27,863 --> 00:27:30,735 her killer to be brought to justice. 589 00:27:30,735 --> 00:27:31,954 We never gave up hope. 590 00:27:31,954 --> 00:27:36,523 We tried to keep it fresh and focused on it. 591 00:27:36,523 --> 00:27:38,351 We were constantly checking in. 592 00:27:38,351 --> 00:27:40,745 We had to get this case closed 593 00:27:40,745 --> 00:27:44,706 to help give our family a little peace. 594 00:27:45,489 --> 00:27:47,404 It just was overwhelming. 595 00:27:48,492 --> 00:27:52,583 The pressure finally pays off, and in 1992, 596 00:27:52,583 --> 00:27:55,020 nearly 10 years after Laurie's murder, 597 00:27:55,020 --> 00:27:58,284 a new team of detectives reopen her case. 598 00:27:58,284 --> 00:28:01,548 Now we have new eyes looking at everything. 599 00:28:01,548 --> 00:28:03,115 They look at the crime scene photos. 600 00:28:03,115 --> 00:28:05,857 They read all the police reports. 601 00:28:05,857 --> 00:28:09,513 They look at the various people that were interviewed. 602 00:28:09,513 --> 00:28:10,688 Part of that process is 603 00:28:10,688 --> 00:28:12,211 to go back and look at old evidence. 604 00:28:12,211 --> 00:28:15,649 Are there things now that are available to law enforcement 605 00:28:15,649 --> 00:28:17,739 that weren't previously available? 606 00:28:17,739 --> 00:28:19,828 Is there testing that can be done? 607 00:28:19,828 --> 00:28:23,440 Now, we're in 1992, so we have DNA testing, 608 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,964 which is much more powerful. 609 00:28:26,617 --> 00:28:27,836 With that in mind, 610 00:28:27,836 --> 00:28:30,839 investigators revisit their prime suspect, 611 00:28:30,839 --> 00:28:33,232 Laurie's husband Gary Stout. 612 00:28:33,232 --> 00:28:37,889 So, Gary was contacted again and provided a DNA sample, 613 00:28:37,889 --> 00:28:41,327 which was compared to that obtained at the crime scene. 614 00:28:41,327 --> 00:28:43,808 Police are hopeful that they'll finally have 615 00:28:43,808 --> 00:28:46,419 the evidence they need to make an arrest, 616 00:28:46,419 --> 00:28:47,943 but when the results come back, 617 00:28:47,943 --> 00:28:50,249 they are shocked at what they reveal. 618 00:28:51,903 --> 00:28:54,427 It was determined that Gary was not a match. 619 00:28:56,299 --> 00:28:59,824 So, officially, he could be ruled out as a suspect 620 00:28:59,824 --> 00:29:01,565 and remove the cloud of doubt 621 00:29:01,565 --> 00:29:04,611 that had been hanging over his head for some period of time. 622 00:29:04,611 --> 00:29:06,962 I do believe that my father felt relief, 623 00:29:06,962 --> 00:29:09,791 but it was very difficult for him to talk about. 624 00:29:10,835 --> 00:29:13,229 With Gary cleared, cold case detectives 625 00:29:13,229 --> 00:29:16,580 go back over the old files, line by line. 626 00:29:16,580 --> 00:29:18,190 With any review of a case, 627 00:29:18,190 --> 00:29:21,628 you look at who's been interviewed, who's been eliminated, 628 00:29:21,628 --> 00:29:24,109 and what was discovered is that 629 00:29:24,109 --> 00:29:26,895 one of the reports that was provided 630 00:29:26,895 --> 00:29:30,637 as far as the blood typing seemed to have an error. 631 00:29:30,637 --> 00:29:33,640 The documentation that was used 632 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,905 to finalize the forensic report 633 00:29:36,905 --> 00:29:40,212 that excluded a suspect 634 00:29:40,212 --> 00:29:41,735 actually showed that 635 00:29:41,735 --> 00:29:45,652 there was a clerical error in that lab report, 636 00:29:45,652 --> 00:29:48,307 and that particular suspect 637 00:29:48,307 --> 00:29:52,964 should have been included as a suspect, not excluded. 638 00:29:52,964 --> 00:29:56,881 This is a big turning point in the investigation. 639 00:30:04,062 --> 00:30:05,934 wife and mother Laurie Stoutafter 640 00:30:05,934 --> 00:30:09,372 was savagely murdered, cold case detectives have unearthed 641 00:30:09,372 --> 00:30:12,766 a stunning error in the results of a blood test 642 00:30:12,766 --> 00:30:14,986 that means a previously cleared suspect 643 00:30:14,986 --> 00:30:17,423 might not be innocent after all. 644 00:30:17,423 --> 00:30:18,947 What was discovered is that 645 00:30:18,947 --> 00:30:21,514 the report said the subject could be eliminated, 646 00:30:21,514 --> 00:30:23,908 but there was a clerical error in the document 647 00:30:23,908 --> 00:30:27,042 and it should have read that he could not be eliminated. 648 00:30:27,956 --> 00:30:31,916 This suspect is Robert Van Wisse, 649 00:30:31,916 --> 00:30:35,050 the 18-year-old University of Texas student. 650 00:30:35,050 --> 00:30:38,227 He was in the building the night Laurie was killed, 651 00:30:38,227 --> 00:30:42,535 registering for a class, and he's the same person 652 00:30:42,535 --> 00:30:45,930 whose prints were found inside the bathroom stall 653 00:30:45,930 --> 00:30:49,586 and also on the second-floor fire escape door. 654 00:30:49,586 --> 00:30:51,066 Detectives look into 655 00:30:51,066 --> 00:30:54,765 what Robert Van Wisse had been doing the last 10 years. 656 00:30:54,765 --> 00:30:57,463 Robert Van Wisse had no criminal history. 657 00:30:57,463 --> 00:31:01,685 Here we have this 18-year-old college student 658 00:31:01,685 --> 00:31:04,688 coming from a well-to-do family, 659 00:31:04,688 --> 00:31:06,081 parents who are professionals. 660 00:31:06,081 --> 00:31:09,780 Seemed to have a very normal, happy upbringing. 661 00:31:09,780 --> 00:31:11,303 He was cooperative. 662 00:31:11,303 --> 00:31:15,438 So, that all combined with the report that we received 663 00:31:16,395 --> 00:31:19,703 naturally excluded him as a suspect. 664 00:31:20,834 --> 00:31:22,097 Could 18-year-old Robert 665 00:31:22,097 --> 00:31:25,491 really have committed such a brutal crime? 666 00:31:25,491 --> 00:31:26,971 In talking with witnesses, 667 00:31:26,971 --> 00:31:30,105 Robert Van Wisse is seen about 12:15 a.m and leaving, 668 00:31:30,105 --> 00:31:31,802 and at about 12:30, 669 00:31:31,802 --> 00:31:34,979 they see Laurie in the building by herself. 670 00:31:34,979 --> 00:31:37,155 Detectives reexamine the fingerprints 671 00:31:37,155 --> 00:31:40,985 he left at the crime scene, and notice something troubling. 672 00:31:40,985 --> 00:31:42,813 What they discover is that 673 00:31:42,813 --> 00:31:45,816 his story of exiting the building 674 00:31:45,816 --> 00:31:48,688 through that second-floor fire escape door 675 00:31:48,688 --> 00:31:50,342 would naturally support fingerprints 676 00:31:50,342 --> 00:31:52,910 being left on the inside of that door 677 00:31:52,910 --> 00:31:55,260 as if you're pushing it open to leave, 678 00:31:55,260 --> 00:31:59,003 but some prints of his are found on the door handle 679 00:31:59,003 --> 00:32:00,831 on the exterior of the door, 680 00:32:00,831 --> 00:32:04,008 as if you're opening it to enter the building. 681 00:32:04,008 --> 00:32:05,836 What this told us is that 682 00:32:05,836 --> 00:32:07,533 he had obviously left the building, 683 00:32:07,533 --> 00:32:09,666 but he had also come back in. 684 00:32:09,666 --> 00:32:12,582 He would have been able to re-enter through that same door 685 00:32:12,582 --> 00:32:15,672 if he had propped it open with something. 686 00:32:15,672 --> 00:32:17,282 The discoveries mean 687 00:32:17,282 --> 00:32:20,503 investigators need to talk to Robert, but there's a problem. 688 00:32:20,503 --> 00:32:24,246 We try to locate Robert Van Wisse, but we're not able to. 689 00:32:24,246 --> 00:32:28,032 We reach out to family members, who are not cooperative. 690 00:32:28,032 --> 00:32:31,035 They provide an attorney's contact. 691 00:32:31,035 --> 00:32:33,037 We talk to the attorney, who states that 692 00:32:33,037 --> 00:32:36,084 Robert Van Wisse is probably somewhere in South America. 693 00:32:37,172 --> 00:32:38,825 All evidence up to that point 694 00:32:38,825 --> 00:32:41,263 showed he was in the Austin area, 695 00:32:41,263 --> 00:32:43,874 and then he likely finds out that 696 00:32:43,874 --> 00:32:46,311 he once again is a suspect, 697 00:32:46,311 --> 00:32:50,576 and now we have DNA testing capability, so he flees. 698 00:32:51,708 --> 00:32:53,623 Fearing Robert has left the country, 699 00:32:53,623 --> 00:32:55,538 detectives scramble to find him. 700 00:32:55,538 --> 00:32:58,715 They interview dozens of his friends and family members, 701 00:32:58,715 --> 00:33:00,847 but no one is willing to cooperate. 702 00:33:01,979 --> 00:33:04,199 Before they can launch an all-out search, 703 00:33:04,199 --> 00:33:08,072 detectives still need more proof that Robert's the killer, 704 00:33:08,072 --> 00:33:11,336 so they come up with a plan to obtain his DNA. 705 00:33:11,336 --> 00:33:14,383 With Robert Van Wisse having fled, 706 00:33:14,383 --> 00:33:16,254 we cannot get a sample from him, 707 00:33:16,254 --> 00:33:18,561 but what we are able to do is 708 00:33:18,561 --> 00:33:21,825 get what's called Y-STR testing accomplished, 709 00:33:21,825 --> 00:33:23,435 and that's familial DNA, 710 00:33:23,435 --> 00:33:25,655 and it's specific to the Y chromosome 711 00:33:25,655 --> 00:33:28,745 that all brothers and fathers would share. 712 00:33:28,745 --> 00:33:34,229 So, since Robert Van Wisse has brothers in the Austin area, 713 00:33:35,143 --> 00:33:36,622 that's something we can actually test. 714 00:33:37,362 --> 00:33:38,798 In order to obtain the sample, 715 00:33:38,798 --> 00:33:41,932 detectives conducted surveillance with family members, 716 00:33:41,932 --> 00:33:43,716 and, at one point, they observe 717 00:33:43,716 --> 00:33:48,765 one of the brothers discarded trash, and retrieve it. 718 00:33:48,765 --> 00:33:50,245 Trash is not something 719 00:33:50,245 --> 00:33:51,942 you need to get a search warrant for, 720 00:33:51,942 --> 00:33:54,423 because it's what's deemed abandoned. 721 00:33:54,423 --> 00:33:56,381 So, detectives take specific items 722 00:33:56,381 --> 00:33:58,470 that would gather DNA evidence 723 00:33:58,470 --> 00:34:01,691 like razor blades and toothpicks, 724 00:34:01,691 --> 00:34:04,607 and they conduct Y-STR testing. 725 00:34:04,607 --> 00:34:06,913 When the DNA tests come back, 726 00:34:06,913 --> 00:34:09,090 the results are conclusive. 727 00:34:09,090 --> 00:34:11,614 And, lo and behold, it's a match. 728 00:34:13,050 --> 00:34:15,313 Finally, we're able to make a direct connection 729 00:34:15,313 --> 00:34:19,143 with Robert Van Wisse to the DNA found at the crime scene. 730 00:34:19,143 --> 00:34:23,408 It was surprising to know that a young male 731 00:34:23,408 --> 00:34:25,454 coming from the background that he did 732 00:34:25,454 --> 00:34:28,457 had the ability to do this at such a young age. 733 00:34:28,457 --> 00:34:30,981 There were no red flags with him, 734 00:34:30,981 --> 00:34:32,983 and so it was very unexpected 735 00:34:32,983 --> 00:34:35,899 to see him as the actual killer. 736 00:34:37,379 --> 00:34:39,076 We finally had a name. 737 00:34:39,076 --> 00:34:41,165 I just totally broke down, 738 00:34:41,165 --> 00:34:42,645 and so you're trying to wrap your head around, 739 00:34:42,645 --> 00:34:45,474 how can an 18-year-old do something like this? 740 00:34:45,474 --> 00:34:48,607 It was shocking because I was 18 myself at the time. 741 00:34:48,607 --> 00:34:51,523 I would have never have had that cross my mind. 742 00:34:51,523 --> 00:34:54,135 I said, "Okay, where is he at? Can we get him?" 743 00:34:54,135 --> 00:34:56,267 And then that's when we learned that 744 00:34:58,617 --> 00:35:00,184 he was gone. 745 00:35:01,620 --> 00:35:03,579 Robert Van Wisse is charged with murder 746 00:35:03,579 --> 00:35:06,495 and unlawful flight to avoid prosecution, 747 00:35:06,495 --> 00:35:09,237 and a warrant is issued for his arrest. 748 00:35:09,237 --> 00:35:11,891 Investigators team up with the FBI 749 00:35:11,891 --> 00:35:14,894 and launch an international manhunt. 750 00:35:14,894 --> 00:35:16,200 The Van Wisse family 751 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,202 owned a lot of properties throughout Mexico. 752 00:35:18,202 --> 00:35:21,074 We conducted telephone toll analysis. 753 00:35:21,074 --> 00:35:23,251 We looked at financial records. 754 00:35:23,251 --> 00:35:26,384 We monitored travel of Van Wisse's family. 755 00:35:26,384 --> 00:35:29,213 We did a tremendous amount of ground surveillance 756 00:35:29,213 --> 00:35:31,824 on locations where we thought he might be. 757 00:35:31,824 --> 00:35:34,392 There were some tips that the FBI received, 758 00:35:34,392 --> 00:35:38,309 or sightings of Van Wisse in Mexico and certain locations, 759 00:35:38,309 --> 00:35:41,225 but we weren't successful in locating him. 760 00:35:41,225 --> 00:35:43,967 Years pass with no sign of Robert, 761 00:35:43,967 --> 00:35:46,535 but detectives refuse to quit. 762 00:35:46,535 --> 00:35:48,841 All you want to do is bring the guy back 763 00:35:48,841 --> 00:35:50,060 so he can face justice 764 00:35:50,060 --> 00:35:51,757 and get some kind of closure for the victims, 765 00:35:51,757 --> 00:35:55,413 but even the FBI, we have limited access, limited resources, 766 00:35:55,413 --> 00:35:57,285 and Mexico is a big country. 767 00:35:57,285 --> 00:35:59,243 There's plenty of places for him to hide. 768 00:36:00,288 --> 00:36:02,377 It is very frustrating, because, for me, 769 00:36:02,377 --> 00:36:06,032 I've lived my entire life waiting for justice, 770 00:36:06,032 --> 00:36:08,905 but also very cognizant of the fact that 771 00:36:08,905 --> 00:36:10,428 it may never happen. 772 00:36:11,647 --> 00:36:15,085 Then, in 2016, the hunt for Robert Van Wisse 773 00:36:15,085 --> 00:36:17,261 takes a promising turn. 774 00:36:17,261 --> 00:36:19,089 Van Wisse had been on the run for 20 years, 775 00:36:19,089 --> 00:36:20,264 so I knew it was going to have to be 776 00:36:20,264 --> 00:36:22,005 something big for us to find him, 777 00:36:22,005 --> 00:36:25,922 and so we discussed it and we said, "Look, let's do it. 778 00:36:25,922 --> 00:36:27,358 Let's go for it." 779 00:36:27,358 --> 00:36:30,361 On December 13th, 2016, 780 00:36:30,361 --> 00:36:32,624 the FBI places Robert Van Wisse 781 00:36:32,624 --> 00:36:34,974 on their Top Ten Most Wanted list. 782 00:36:34,974 --> 00:36:37,455 This was huge for our case because it brings awareness, 783 00:36:37,455 --> 00:36:40,284 but also that comes with a $100,000 reward, 784 00:36:40,284 --> 00:36:45,115 so it was exciting to know that we're making traction. 785 00:36:45,115 --> 00:36:46,551 Once we announced his addition 786 00:36:46,551 --> 00:36:49,250 to the FBI's Ten Most Wanted list, 787 00:36:49,250 --> 00:36:52,253 we again interviewed people that knew him 788 00:36:52,253 --> 00:36:54,124 and possibly knew where he was. 789 00:36:54,124 --> 00:36:55,473 Probably the most important interview 790 00:36:55,473 --> 00:36:57,606 was with Van Wisse's mother. 791 00:36:57,606 --> 00:37:00,565 We said Robert is going to be arrested. He is coming home. 792 00:37:00,565 --> 00:37:03,046 The safest way is to turn himself in. 793 00:37:03,046 --> 00:37:07,442 I think the mother realized, with a $100,000 reward, 794 00:37:07,442 --> 00:37:10,096 his name on the Ten Most Wanted list, 795 00:37:10,096 --> 00:37:12,447 that it was going to be insurmountable, 796 00:37:12,447 --> 00:37:14,275 that he was going to get arrested. 797 00:37:14,275 --> 00:37:15,798 The pressure pays off 798 00:37:15,798 --> 00:37:19,454 and a phone call comes in that changes everything. 799 00:37:19,454 --> 00:37:21,238 Robert Van Wisse's attorney 800 00:37:21,238 --> 00:37:22,674 contacted the district attorney's office 801 00:37:22,674 --> 00:37:26,069 to let them know that he wants to turn himself in. 802 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,862 33 years after the murder of Laurie Stout, 803 00:37:36,862 --> 00:37:39,474 her elusive killer, Robert Van Wisse, 804 00:37:39,474 --> 00:37:43,216 is ready to return to the US to face justice. 805 00:37:43,216 --> 00:37:44,696 Robert Van Wisse's lawyer 806 00:37:44,696 --> 00:37:47,569 contacted the district attorney's office 807 00:37:47,569 --> 00:37:51,573 and started to inquire about possible surrender 808 00:37:51,573 --> 00:37:53,357 with a plea bargain agreement. 809 00:37:53,357 --> 00:37:56,186 Typically speaking, when someone is a fugitive, 810 00:37:56,186 --> 00:37:57,622 we do not negotiate, 811 00:37:57,622 --> 00:38:01,670 but circumstances in this situation are quite unique. 812 00:38:02,627 --> 00:38:07,153 Mexico will not agree to extradite to Texas 813 00:38:07,153 --> 00:38:10,505 if the death penalty is on the table, 814 00:38:10,505 --> 00:38:12,942 so we will not get him in our hands 815 00:38:12,942 --> 00:38:14,813 if he's arrested in Mexico 816 00:38:14,813 --> 00:38:18,948 unless we agree to not have death penalty on the table. 817 00:38:19,949 --> 00:38:21,559 Wanting a swift resolution, 818 00:38:21,559 --> 00:38:24,693 the district attorney negotiates a deal. 819 00:38:24,693 --> 00:38:26,825 Van Wisse would agree to turn himself in 820 00:38:26,825 --> 00:38:30,133 and they agreed to 30 years in prison. 821 00:38:30,133 --> 00:38:33,528 On January 26th, 2017, 822 00:38:33,528 --> 00:38:36,705 police head to the Mexican border to meet Robert. 823 00:38:36,705 --> 00:38:39,055 The plan was for him to surrender, 824 00:38:39,055 --> 00:38:40,230 but we were holding our breath. 825 00:38:40,230 --> 00:38:41,753 We weren't sure it was going to happen. 826 00:38:41,753 --> 00:38:45,148 We're anxious that this is finally going to take place, 827 00:38:45,148 --> 00:38:48,586 but until we have Robert Van Wisse in physical custody, 828 00:38:48,586 --> 00:38:50,283 we can't let our guard down. 829 00:38:50,283 --> 00:38:52,416 The arrangement was that he would meet us 830 00:38:52,416 --> 00:38:54,636 at the halfway point on the pedestrian bridge. 831 00:38:54,636 --> 00:38:55,637 There's a line in the middle. 832 00:38:55,637 --> 00:38:57,247 On one side, it says Mexico. 833 00:38:57,247 --> 00:38:59,641 On the other side, it says United States. 834 00:38:59,641 --> 00:39:03,601 He was to meet us there at one o'clock. He didn't show up. 835 00:39:06,430 --> 00:39:07,953 As the minutes tick by, 836 00:39:07,953 --> 00:39:11,261 investigators start to worry they've been duped. 837 00:39:12,784 --> 00:39:15,396 We had assurances from the attorney that he would show up, 838 00:39:15,396 --> 00:39:16,962 but, at any point during that time, 839 00:39:16,962 --> 00:39:19,269 he could have turned around and changed his mind, 840 00:39:19,269 --> 00:39:21,489 and there was nothing we could have done. 841 00:39:22,315 --> 00:39:24,317 At 1:36 p.m., 842 00:39:24,317 --> 00:39:26,885 a lone figure approaches the border. 843 00:39:26,885 --> 00:39:30,976 He walked up very slowly and stopped at the line. 844 00:39:30,976 --> 00:39:33,457 He introduced himself as Robert Van Wisse, 845 00:39:33,457 --> 00:39:36,329 and I said to him, "Are you ready to turn yourself in?" 846 00:39:36,329 --> 00:39:38,506 He took a deep breath. He closed his eyes. 847 00:39:38,506 --> 00:39:40,464 He said, "Yes." I said, "Step on across." 848 00:39:40,464 --> 00:39:42,118 He took one step over and he was arrested. 849 00:39:44,337 --> 00:39:46,818 Seeing him walk across that bridge, 850 00:39:46,818 --> 00:39:49,734 and seeing law enforcement put handcuffs on him, 851 00:39:49,734 --> 00:39:51,736 it was extremely satisfying. 852 00:39:51,736 --> 00:39:54,739 There had been so much work from so many different people 853 00:39:54,739 --> 00:40:00,049 over the years from 1983 up until 2017. 854 00:40:00,919 --> 00:40:02,181 Now we have somebody that's accountable 855 00:40:02,181 --> 00:40:03,705 and be brought to justice. 856 00:40:03,705 --> 00:40:07,360 It was one of the most rewarding experiences in my career. 857 00:40:08,884 --> 00:40:13,062 I sent a picture to Daile and let her know we got him, 858 00:40:14,411 --> 00:40:17,849 and I get a text back 859 00:40:17,849 --> 00:40:21,331 that it apparently was Daile's birthday, 860 00:40:23,855 --> 00:40:25,683 so it was pretty emotional. 861 00:40:25,683 --> 00:40:28,381 She showed me a photo of Van Wisse 862 00:40:28,381 --> 00:40:30,862 being escorted into custody. 863 00:40:31,994 --> 00:40:34,692 It's kind of hard to believe that, after all of these years, 864 00:40:34,692 --> 00:40:37,521 that it would be that day of all days 865 00:40:37,521 --> 00:40:39,088 that he would turn himself in. 866 00:40:40,263 --> 00:40:45,094 It was and it still is surreal that it finally did happen. 867 00:40:45,964 --> 00:40:47,400 I mean, just emotions everywhere. 868 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,708 It's finally over. It's finally over. 869 00:40:51,535 --> 00:40:52,841 Finally over. 870 00:40:55,757 --> 00:40:57,019 The plea deal means 871 00:40:57,019 --> 00:40:59,674 Robert does not have to speak to investigators, 872 00:40:59,674 --> 00:41:01,023 leaving them to piece together 873 00:41:01,023 --> 00:41:03,895 how they believe the murder unfolded. 874 00:41:03,895 --> 00:41:06,637 He showed up that night to register for classes. 875 00:41:06,637 --> 00:41:09,727 He sees Laurie as she's cleaning. 876 00:41:09,727 --> 00:41:12,469 It's possible that Robert Van Wisse and Laurie Stout 877 00:41:12,469 --> 00:41:14,427 had an interaction as he passed her. 878 00:41:14,427 --> 00:41:15,733 Maybe she spoke to him. 879 00:41:15,733 --> 00:41:17,518 He goes to the bathroom, 880 00:41:17,518 --> 00:41:20,912 and develops his plan on coming back in. 881 00:41:20,912 --> 00:41:24,046 He's opportunistic, and the opportunity arose, 882 00:41:24,046 --> 00:41:26,396 and he left through that fire escape door 883 00:41:26,396 --> 00:41:28,659 on the second floor, propped it open. 884 00:41:28,659 --> 00:41:31,357 And once the other workers had all left, 885 00:41:31,357 --> 00:41:32,794 I think he came back in. 886 00:41:33,621 --> 00:41:34,752 When he came back in, 887 00:41:34,752 --> 00:41:36,580 he would have passed, in the parking lot, 888 00:41:36,580 --> 00:41:40,802 the dumpster that had some leftover electrical wiring 889 00:41:40,802 --> 00:41:45,458 that Gary Stout had used that day for the hot water heater, 890 00:41:45,458 --> 00:41:48,853 and grabbed it and went upstairs 891 00:41:48,853 --> 00:41:52,074 and then attacked her, raped her, and killed her. 892 00:41:55,251 --> 00:41:57,732 Laurie was killed in probably 893 00:41:57,732 --> 00:41:59,647 one of the most personal, violent ways 894 00:41:59,647 --> 00:42:01,126 that someone can be killed. 895 00:42:01,126 --> 00:42:02,301 Robert Van Wisse is 896 00:42:02,301 --> 00:42:06,044 an extremely cold and calculating person. 897 00:42:07,132 --> 00:42:10,092 On March 28th, 2017, 898 00:42:10,092 --> 00:42:12,660 Robert pleads guilty to Laurie's murder 899 00:42:12,660 --> 00:42:15,837 and is sentenced to 30 years in prison. 900 00:42:15,837 --> 00:42:17,795 Laurie's sister, Beverly, is there 901 00:42:17,795 --> 00:42:20,493 to deliver an emotional impact statement. 902 00:42:20,493 --> 00:42:22,191 I looked him right in the eye 903 00:42:22,191 --> 00:42:25,455 and told him what he had taken from our family 904 00:42:25,455 --> 00:42:28,153 and what he had done, and, you know, I just told him 905 00:42:28,153 --> 00:42:32,505 I hope he rots in hell and gets to feel some of that terror 906 00:42:32,505 --> 00:42:34,638 that my sister felt that night. 907 00:42:34,638 --> 00:42:37,206 I know in my heart he is where he needs to be. 908 00:42:38,381 --> 00:42:40,818 I think Laurie's family felt a sense of relief, 909 00:42:40,818 --> 00:42:43,604 a sense of closure that maybe now, 910 00:42:43,604 --> 00:42:45,649 at least my hope for them now with that, 911 00:42:45,649 --> 00:42:48,173 is that they could at least start to heal. 912 00:42:48,173 --> 00:42:52,177 Him being arrested and incarcerated does bring closure. 913 00:42:52,177 --> 00:42:54,876 I think that that's what everybody dreams about 914 00:42:54,876 --> 00:42:56,051 when a crime like this 915 00:42:56,051 --> 00:42:58,401 happens to one of their family members. 916 00:43:00,403 --> 00:43:01,578 I still see Laurie's face. 917 00:43:03,667 --> 00:43:04,799 Quite often. 918 00:43:04,799 --> 00:43:07,366 She was a hoot. Laurie was a hoot. 919 00:43:07,366 --> 00:43:08,759 I miss her dearly. 920 00:43:10,021 --> 00:43:12,458 I do believe that my life would have been very different 921 00:43:12,458 --> 00:43:13,851 if she would have lived, 922 00:43:14,809 --> 00:43:16,941 and I know that she would have done anything 923 00:43:16,941 --> 00:43:18,943 to make sure that I had what I needed. 924 00:43:20,118 --> 00:43:24,340 I still think of Laurie every day. Every single day. 925 00:43:24,340 --> 00:43:25,254 There were 926 00:43:27,735 --> 00:43:31,564 a lot of good times, good memories with Laurie, 927 00:43:31,564 --> 00:43:35,608 and I just wish we would have had more.