1 00:00:06,179 --> 00:00:08,660 She always wanted the best for all of us. 2 00:00:10,401 --> 00:00:12,620 Vanishes without a trace. 3 00:00:12,620 --> 00:00:16,581 There was just no explanation for why she would be gone. 4 00:00:16,581 --> 00:00:19,497 I knew something was terribly, terribly wrong. 5 00:00:21,151 --> 00:00:23,066 Investigators are sent down 6 00:00:23,066 --> 00:00:25,198 a rabbit hole of suspects. 7 00:00:25,198 --> 00:00:28,201 He said that the subject will never be found. 8 00:00:28,201 --> 00:00:31,639 My mom did not have an enemy in the world 9 00:00:31,639 --> 00:00:33,119 other than him. 10 00:00:33,119 --> 00:00:36,514 He disliked Patricia Kimmi. He hated Patricia Kimmi. 11 00:00:36,514 --> 00:00:39,212 He wished harm to come to Patricia Kimmi. 12 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,869 And discover grizzly clues. 13 00:00:43,869 --> 00:00:46,480 We found Patricia Kimmi's dentures. 14 00:00:46,480 --> 00:00:49,135 We did find blood in the back of the truck. 15 00:00:49,135 --> 00:00:52,704 And a money clip that was soaked in blood. 16 00:00:54,271 --> 00:00:56,316 Until a shocking revelation. 17 00:00:56,316 --> 00:01:00,364 She told investigators she knew where Patricia Kimmi was. 18 00:01:00,364 --> 00:01:02,148 Changes everything. 19 00:01:02,148 --> 00:01:04,107 We were shocked. 20 00:01:05,020 --> 00:01:07,893 That's one of the most evil things you can do. 21 00:01:19,905 --> 00:01:21,341 Horton, Kansas, 22 00:01:21,341 --> 00:01:25,432 a tiny farm town deep in America's Heartland. 23 00:01:25,432 --> 00:01:28,218 Horton's a town of several hundred people. 24 00:01:28,218 --> 00:01:29,436 It's kind of a quiet town. 25 00:01:29,436 --> 00:01:31,656 Overall there's not a lot of crime. 26 00:01:31,656 --> 00:01:35,747 Horton is a rural area, surrounded by corn fields. 27 00:01:35,747 --> 00:01:37,357 Everybody knows everybody. 28 00:01:37,357 --> 00:01:41,144 It's just a typical Midwest small town. 29 00:01:46,801 --> 00:01:51,458 One fall day in 2009 turns into a nightmare 30 00:01:51,458 --> 00:01:53,939 when a daughter and son learned their mother, 31 00:01:53,939 --> 00:01:56,985 Pat Kimmi, has gone missing. 32 00:01:56,985 --> 00:01:59,292 That Saturday I got a phone call 33 00:01:59,292 --> 00:02:02,121 from my mom's best friend. 34 00:02:02,121 --> 00:02:03,601 And when I answered it, 35 00:02:03,601 --> 00:02:05,951 she said that she was concerned about my mom 36 00:02:05,951 --> 00:02:08,214 because they were supposed to go 37 00:02:08,214 --> 00:02:09,650 on a shopping trip that day, 38 00:02:09,650 --> 00:02:13,176 and my mom had actually never answered her calls. 39 00:02:14,133 --> 00:02:15,917 I knew that was very strange. 40 00:02:17,267 --> 00:02:21,967 I jumped in my truck and went out there to my mom's house. 41 00:02:21,967 --> 00:02:25,492 Her jacket was in the kitchen. 42 00:02:26,450 --> 00:02:30,149 Her purse was sitting there and her phone, 43 00:02:30,149 --> 00:02:32,499 everything was there but her. 44 00:02:32,499 --> 00:02:36,242 Very quickly after my brother, Tony arrived and said, 45 00:02:36,242 --> 00:02:37,809 "You need to call the sheriff. 46 00:02:37,809 --> 00:02:39,637 This is not right." 47 00:02:39,637 --> 00:02:42,248 Mom, she did not go anywhere without her cellphone. 48 00:02:42,248 --> 00:02:45,208 It was in her pocket 24/7. 49 00:02:45,208 --> 00:02:47,819 So that was an immediate flag right there 50 00:02:47,819 --> 00:02:49,212 that something was wrong. 51 00:02:50,213 --> 00:02:51,649 I can't explain the fear over that 52 00:02:51,649 --> 00:02:54,478 because there was just no explanation 53 00:02:54,478 --> 00:02:56,219 for why she would be gone. 54 00:02:57,655 --> 00:03:01,311 Alarmed, Rita and Tony call 911. 55 00:03:01,311 --> 00:03:05,402 A Sergeant arrives at the house at 9:45 AM. 56 00:03:06,316 --> 00:03:09,536 He immediately notices troubling signs. 57 00:03:09,536 --> 00:03:12,452 On the front porch there was a wooden gate 58 00:03:12,452 --> 00:03:15,020 that went across this staircase, 59 00:03:15,020 --> 00:03:16,543 and this gate had been broken in half 60 00:03:16,543 --> 00:03:18,545 and had been pushed off the porch. 61 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,462 I noticed that the door was standing open, 62 00:03:22,462 --> 00:03:24,856 but the deadbolt lock was out. 63 00:03:27,250 --> 00:03:30,862 A rug in the front door foyer was messed up as well, 64 00:03:30,862 --> 00:03:32,124 and it appeared to me that 65 00:03:32,124 --> 00:03:34,300 maybe there was some type of struggle. 66 00:03:34,300 --> 00:03:36,607 I immediately treated it as a crime scene. 67 00:03:37,651 --> 00:03:39,697 Investigators head to the scene 68 00:03:39,697 --> 00:03:42,656 in search of clues as to what could have happened 69 00:03:42,656 --> 00:03:43,831 to Pat Kimmi. 70 00:03:44,919 --> 00:03:46,312 The house was well arranged. 71 00:03:46,312 --> 00:03:48,880 There was no sign of really anything inside the house 72 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:50,360 that had been disturbed. 73 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,319 There was a computer that had been left on. 74 00:03:54,277 --> 00:03:56,540 The investigators were able to tell 75 00:03:56,540 --> 00:03:57,976 from looking at the computer, 76 00:03:57,976 --> 00:04:00,195 the time of the last keystroke. 77 00:04:00,195 --> 00:04:02,328 It was like seven, 7:01 the night before, 78 00:04:02,328 --> 00:04:04,287 it was the last stroke on the computer. 79 00:04:04,287 --> 00:04:06,550 So we believe she was on the computer when 80 00:04:06,550 --> 00:04:08,639 maybe there was a knock on the door. 81 00:04:09,814 --> 00:04:12,860 Detectives look for clues outside the home. 82 00:04:13,513 --> 00:04:15,123 We found Patricia Kimmi's car, 83 00:04:15,123 --> 00:04:16,951 and car keys were at the home. 84 00:04:16,951 --> 00:04:19,519 Obviously she did not leave with her own vehicle. 85 00:04:19,519 --> 00:04:22,392 So she must have left with somebody else. 86 00:04:22,392 --> 00:04:25,351 We also had discovered several droplets of blood 87 00:04:25,351 --> 00:04:28,746 on the gravel rock portion of the driveway. 88 00:04:30,051 --> 00:04:32,663 After we looked at all the stuff, the door and 89 00:04:32,663 --> 00:04:36,449 the broken gate, the blood in the driveway, 90 00:04:36,449 --> 00:04:39,931 our thought process was she's been kidnapped. 91 00:04:41,106 --> 00:04:44,849 At that point, we still were considering a missing person. 92 00:04:44,849 --> 00:04:46,764 Maybe she was taken by force. 93 00:04:47,982 --> 00:04:50,594 Police break the hard news to the family, 94 00:04:50,594 --> 00:04:53,161 that they believe Pat has been kidnapped 95 00:04:53,161 --> 00:04:56,339 or possibly even a victim of foul play. 96 00:04:57,252 --> 00:04:58,819 We had hope we're gonna find her, 97 00:04:58,819 --> 00:05:02,388 but when they found the blood, it was just your heart sank. 98 00:05:02,388 --> 00:05:04,564 Who took her out of her home? 99 00:05:04,564 --> 00:05:07,741 And what did they want with her? 100 00:05:07,741 --> 00:05:09,656 And I just leaned over and said, 101 00:05:09,656 --> 00:05:11,354 "Rita, do you think she's coming back?" 102 00:05:11,354 --> 00:05:13,834 And Rita got tears in her eyes and said, 103 00:05:14,487 --> 00:05:15,967 "I don't believe she is." 104 00:05:20,232 --> 00:05:23,017 Born in Kansas in 1951, 105 00:05:23,017 --> 00:05:25,759 Pat's youth was full of joy. 106 00:05:25,759 --> 00:05:28,501 She was a very big farm girl at heart. 107 00:05:28,501 --> 00:05:30,895 She grew up on a farm. 108 00:05:30,895 --> 00:05:35,943 She loved animals and always wanted to be a veterinarian. 109 00:05:36,901 --> 00:05:40,121 In her late teens, Pat fell in love. 110 00:05:40,121 --> 00:05:44,822 My mom met my father, Eugene Kimmi, in high school. 111 00:05:44,822 --> 00:05:47,302 So they started dating. 112 00:05:47,302 --> 00:05:49,392 Nobody loved him like she did. 113 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,831 In 1971, Pat and Eugene got married. 114 00:05:55,659 --> 00:05:59,140 Eugene ran the Kimmi sawmill he had inherited, 115 00:05:59,140 --> 00:06:03,449 while Pat was a devoted stay-at-home mom to their four kids. 116 00:06:04,494 --> 00:06:06,321 There wasn't anything that meant more to her 117 00:06:06,321 --> 00:06:07,497 than her family. 118 00:06:07,497 --> 00:06:09,803 She was just the ultimate mom. 119 00:06:09,803 --> 00:06:12,458 She always wanted the best for all of us. 120 00:06:15,243 --> 00:06:16,680 As the years passed, 121 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:20,727 crack started to appear in Pat and Eugene's marriage. 122 00:06:20,727 --> 00:06:23,600 And the relationship crumbled. 123 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,689 Eugene was very controlling. 124 00:06:25,689 --> 00:06:28,213 To him, she couldn't do anything right. 125 00:06:28,213 --> 00:06:29,910 He didn't want her going anywhere, 126 00:06:29,910 --> 00:06:31,346 wanted her to stay at home. 127 00:06:32,870 --> 00:06:37,265 In 2008, the couple called it quits. 128 00:06:37,265 --> 00:06:39,224 Following the divorce, 129 00:06:39,224 --> 00:06:41,661 I could see a difference in my mom. 130 00:06:42,662 --> 00:06:44,316 And I think there was a sigh of relief to her 131 00:06:44,316 --> 00:06:46,797 that she could finally live life freely 132 00:06:46,797 --> 00:06:49,539 instead of being under the thumb of Eugene. 133 00:06:51,062 --> 00:06:54,587 Now all that is left is a trail of blood 134 00:06:54,587 --> 00:06:57,111 and a list of unanswered questions. 135 00:06:59,287 --> 00:07:01,899 As news of her disappearance spreads, 136 00:07:01,899 --> 00:07:04,815 the community unites in their search for Pat. 137 00:07:05,772 --> 00:07:07,774 We got as many people together as possible. 138 00:07:07,774 --> 00:07:10,647 We lined up and we started walking, 139 00:07:10,647 --> 00:07:12,779 looking for any signs of Pat. 140 00:07:12,779 --> 00:07:15,521 Pat was very well loved in the community. 141 00:07:15,521 --> 00:07:17,349 It was obvious from the support 142 00:07:17,349 --> 00:07:19,177 that the community gave us. 143 00:07:19,177 --> 00:07:21,092 Hundreds of people come out, 144 00:07:21,092 --> 00:07:24,399 50 feet apart spread, walking through the fields. 145 00:07:24,399 --> 00:07:26,837 It gave you chills to see something like that. 146 00:07:31,494 --> 00:07:33,408 While the search continues, 147 00:07:33,408 --> 00:07:36,586 detectives ask Pat's kids if there was anyone 148 00:07:36,586 --> 00:07:39,414 who might have wanted to hurt their mom. 149 00:07:39,414 --> 00:07:41,329 Rita and I both looked at each other 150 00:07:41,329 --> 00:07:43,027 and then looked back at him and I said 151 00:07:43,027 --> 00:07:45,943 Eugene Kimmi is the only one we know of. 152 00:07:45,943 --> 00:07:48,946 My mom did not have an enemy in the world 153 00:07:49,860 --> 00:07:50,991 other than him. 154 00:07:52,645 --> 00:07:55,779 As investigators learn more about Eugene, 155 00:07:55,779 --> 00:07:58,956 a disturbing picture begins to emerge. 156 00:07:59,652 --> 00:08:01,001 He was often drunk. 157 00:08:01,001 --> 00:08:03,961 A lot of times he was very argumentative 158 00:08:03,961 --> 00:08:08,574 and his drinking was never under control. 159 00:08:08,574 --> 00:08:11,142 The descriptions I received from everyone 160 00:08:11,142 --> 00:08:13,318 was that he drank too much, 161 00:08:13,318 --> 00:08:16,103 that he was just a very unpleasant person. 162 00:08:17,844 --> 00:08:22,501 My mom found out that Eugene had cheated on her. 163 00:08:22,501 --> 00:08:27,637 And that was something that truly broke her heart. 164 00:08:28,376 --> 00:08:29,987 All of us told her to get out. 165 00:08:29,987 --> 00:08:32,163 Nobody should have to put up with that. 166 00:08:32,163 --> 00:08:35,862 So that's when she decided enough was enough. 167 00:08:37,560 --> 00:08:39,213 Pat divorced Eugene 168 00:08:39,213 --> 00:08:41,738 a year before she went missing. 169 00:08:41,738 --> 00:08:45,872 Mrs. Kimmi ended up getting the property from the divorce. 170 00:08:45,872 --> 00:08:48,440 Pat had won a very large settlement 171 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,660 with the alimony payments being made. 172 00:08:50,660 --> 00:08:53,619 There was a huge payment going out every month 173 00:08:53,619 --> 00:08:57,797 to the sum of about $2,300, so he was bitter about that. 174 00:08:58,711 --> 00:09:00,670 Eugene said it was unfair, 175 00:09:00,670 --> 00:09:02,889 was constantly complaining to everyone 176 00:09:02,889 --> 00:09:04,674 the amount of money he had to give her. 177 00:09:04,674 --> 00:09:07,764 And Eugene didn't think she was entitled to anything. 178 00:09:09,940 --> 00:09:12,638 Detectives also learn Eugene had made 179 00:09:12,638 --> 00:09:15,859 sinister remarks about his ex-wife. 180 00:09:15,859 --> 00:09:19,514 People in the community told us that he had made comments 181 00:09:19,514 --> 00:09:21,691 about how he wished she was dead. 182 00:09:22,909 --> 00:09:25,651 He was constantly saying that he wanted her gone. 183 00:09:25,651 --> 00:09:28,523 He had actually been telling people 184 00:09:28,523 --> 00:09:33,703 that he would like my mom to just disappear. 185 00:09:38,838 --> 00:09:41,885 Was Eugene so enraged at the divorce 186 00:09:41,885 --> 00:09:44,235 that he followed through on his threats? 187 00:09:45,366 --> 00:09:48,718 I don't think there was much question in anybody's mind 188 00:09:48,718 --> 00:09:51,721 of who had a motive to harm Patricia Kimmi. 189 00:09:57,204 --> 00:09:58,684 Coming up. 190 00:09:58,684 --> 00:10:03,646 Investigators uncover a web of alarming secrets and lies. 191 00:10:04,734 --> 00:10:07,388 You could tell that the woman was filled with guilt. 192 00:10:07,388 --> 00:10:08,955 He lied in every interview. 193 00:10:08,955 --> 00:10:12,567 Why did he do this if he wasn't involved in this case? 194 00:10:12,567 --> 00:10:16,920 His story, it changed every time. 195 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,966 While family dissent into despair. 196 00:10:19,966 --> 00:10:22,577 We were all very fearful at that point. 197 00:10:22,577 --> 00:10:25,711 I knew it was not gonna turn out good. 198 00:10:25,711 --> 00:10:29,149 Before the truth blindsides everyone. 199 00:10:29,149 --> 00:10:32,718 She was fighting for her life kicking on that ground. 200 00:10:32,718 --> 00:10:35,765 You really couldn't make up a case like this. 201 00:10:46,732 --> 00:10:49,169 It's been 24 hours since Pat Kimmi 202 00:10:49,169 --> 00:10:52,303 has mysteriously disappeared from her home 203 00:10:52,303 --> 00:10:53,783 in Horton, Kansas, 204 00:10:53,783 --> 00:10:56,394 and the signs point to foul play. 205 00:10:57,612 --> 00:11:00,267 Police already have their first suspect, 206 00:11:00,267 --> 00:11:02,879 Pat's ex-husband, Eugene Kimmi. 207 00:11:03,793 --> 00:11:07,144 He was upset about the divorce settlement, 208 00:11:07,144 --> 00:11:10,756 and he made it very clear that he disliked Patricia Kimmi. 209 00:11:10,756 --> 00:11:12,671 He hated Patricia Kimmi. 210 00:11:12,671 --> 00:11:15,065 He wished harm to come to Patricia Kimmi. 211 00:11:15,065 --> 00:11:18,285 And he would tell that to anybody that would listen to him. 212 00:11:20,766 --> 00:11:22,986 Had Eugene finally made good 213 00:11:22,986 --> 00:11:24,683 on his threats? 214 00:11:24,683 --> 00:11:27,730 Detectives question him at the Kimmi Sawmill. 215 00:11:28,687 --> 00:11:31,516 Eugene Kimmi denied that he was involved 216 00:11:31,516 --> 00:11:33,997 with Patricia's disappearance. 217 00:11:33,997 --> 00:11:37,391 He said, "Yes, I'm upset after the divorce, but..." 218 00:11:37,391 --> 00:11:39,742 and he says I would never harm her. 219 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:42,962 Evidence at the crime scene indicates 220 00:11:42,962 --> 00:11:46,183 Pat was abducted around 7:00 PM. 221 00:11:46,183 --> 00:11:50,796 So investigators ask Eugene where he was during that time. 222 00:11:51,797 --> 00:11:54,191 He said he went to sell logs that day. 223 00:11:54,191 --> 00:11:57,672 He came home, he ate supper alone. 224 00:11:57,672 --> 00:12:00,675 And then later on he turned a movie on, 225 00:12:00,675 --> 00:12:03,287 on TV and watched it until he fell asleep. 226 00:12:03,287 --> 00:12:07,030 And so he really had no one that was with him at any time 227 00:12:07,030 --> 00:12:09,423 during that period that could vouch for him. 228 00:12:10,773 --> 00:12:12,818 Unable to rule Eugene out, 229 00:12:12,818 --> 00:12:16,517 police obtain a warrant and search his home and sawmill, 230 00:12:16,517 --> 00:12:21,522 but find no evidence to tie him to Pat's disappearance. 231 00:12:21,522 --> 00:12:22,697 We had nothing concrete 232 00:12:22,697 --> 00:12:25,091 to put him anywhere near the scene. 233 00:12:25,091 --> 00:12:28,051 There was no evidence of anything to put Eugene 234 00:12:28,051 --> 00:12:30,009 at Ms. Kimmi's house that night. 235 00:12:31,315 --> 00:12:34,753 Eugene Kimmi is put on the back burner. 236 00:12:34,753 --> 00:12:37,234 As the search for Pat continues, 237 00:12:37,234 --> 00:12:40,759 a telling discovery is made about a quarter mile 238 00:12:40,759 --> 00:12:42,239 from her house. 239 00:12:42,239 --> 00:12:46,721 One of our deputies located a camouflage baseball cap. 240 00:12:46,721 --> 00:12:48,811 It was just out among the weeds 241 00:12:48,811 --> 00:12:51,030 and it seemed out of place. 242 00:12:51,901 --> 00:12:53,772 It had a writing on the front 243 00:12:53,772 --> 00:12:56,122 that said "Saylor's Insurance Company". 244 00:12:56,122 --> 00:12:58,472 I instructed him to photograph it 245 00:12:58,472 --> 00:13:00,039 and collected it as evidence. 246 00:13:01,258 --> 00:13:02,781 Knowing there had been heavy winds 247 00:13:02,781 --> 00:13:04,609 in the area overnight, 248 00:13:04,609 --> 00:13:06,872 investigators expand their search 249 00:13:06,872 --> 00:13:11,050 and find more evidence just a half mile west. 250 00:13:11,050 --> 00:13:14,880 They find a money clip that had some US currency 251 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:16,316 attached to it, 252 00:13:16,316 --> 00:13:18,014 and that currency 253 00:13:19,493 --> 00:13:21,626 was soaked in blood. 254 00:13:25,935 --> 00:13:29,460 We found a bag containing some rifle shells 255 00:13:29,460 --> 00:13:31,114 that had blood on it. 256 00:13:31,114 --> 00:13:35,161 There was coins on the roadway that had blood on them. 257 00:13:36,249 --> 00:13:39,209 All these items was collected and sent for DNA testing. 258 00:13:41,951 --> 00:13:44,083 And then just to the east of that, 259 00:13:44,083 --> 00:13:47,695 there was a area in the grass that kind of been pushed down. 260 00:13:47,695 --> 00:13:51,264 They noticed that the grass was matted down 261 00:13:51,264 --> 00:13:54,702 in an area about the size of a person, 262 00:13:54,702 --> 00:13:57,096 which led them to believe that a person 263 00:13:57,096 --> 00:13:59,925 had been on the ground in that location. 264 00:13:59,925 --> 00:14:01,579 And then as they examined that closer, 265 00:14:01,579 --> 00:14:04,147 they began to find blood drops. 266 00:14:04,147 --> 00:14:08,151 That was when they knew we have a second crime scene. 267 00:14:08,151 --> 00:14:09,717 Because of the blood on the money clip, 268 00:14:09,717 --> 00:14:11,067 the blood on the coins, 269 00:14:11,067 --> 00:14:14,331 the activity in the grass that had blood on it, 270 00:14:14,331 --> 00:14:17,943 we knew something significant happened at that scene. 271 00:14:17,943 --> 00:14:21,991 I and Larry both thought this is not good. 272 00:14:22,992 --> 00:14:25,908 We were hoping to find her, but I just knew 273 00:14:26,778 --> 00:14:28,519 this is not gonna have a good resolution. 274 00:14:31,304 --> 00:14:33,872 Police unearth one more chilling piece 275 00:14:33,872 --> 00:14:36,266 of evidence down the road. 276 00:14:36,266 --> 00:14:38,355 Law enforcement called me telling me, 277 00:14:38,355 --> 00:14:41,880 "We just found Patricia Kimmi's dentures." 278 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:43,099 And I was asking them, 279 00:14:43,099 --> 00:14:44,361 well, how in the world do you know 280 00:14:44,361 --> 00:14:47,190 they're Patricia Kimmi's dentures? 281 00:14:47,190 --> 00:14:48,843 And they said because her name is printed 282 00:14:48,843 --> 00:14:50,889 on the inside of them. 283 00:14:50,889 --> 00:14:52,978 And it clearly was her dentures. 284 00:14:54,284 --> 00:14:58,418 I don't think anybody doubted that there had been foul play. 285 00:14:58,418 --> 00:15:00,725 When we found the dentures with their name on them, 286 00:15:00,725 --> 00:15:01,769 we all thought that, yeah, 287 00:15:01,769 --> 00:15:04,033 this is probably a homicide now. 288 00:15:05,121 --> 00:15:08,559 The grizzly discovery forces Pat's family 289 00:15:08,559 --> 00:15:10,648 to face a grim reality. 290 00:15:11,779 --> 00:15:13,956 We knew that she had been there 291 00:15:13,956 --> 00:15:18,395 and that something really awful had happened to her. 292 00:15:18,395 --> 00:15:19,962 My heart just sunk 293 00:15:19,962 --> 00:15:23,139 because then I knew something was terribly, terribly wrong. 294 00:15:24,705 --> 00:15:28,057 While the roadside evidence leads back to Pat, 295 00:15:28,057 --> 00:15:30,189 nothing points to a killer 296 00:15:30,189 --> 00:15:33,453 until an officer sees something close by. 297 00:15:34,237 --> 00:15:35,455 There was a receipt found. 298 00:15:35,455 --> 00:15:39,155 The receipt had a date and time stamp on it. 299 00:15:39,155 --> 00:15:41,331 It was a dated November the 6th, 300 00:15:41,331 --> 00:15:44,073 the night of Patricia's disappearance. 301 00:15:45,030 --> 00:15:47,598 It was from a Walmart store in Hiawatha. 302 00:15:47,598 --> 00:15:52,037 We was able to go up and track down who the person was 303 00:15:52,037 --> 00:15:53,996 that done this transaction. 304 00:15:55,475 --> 00:15:57,347 Police bring the customer, 305 00:15:57,347 --> 00:16:00,437 a local teen down to the station. 306 00:16:00,437 --> 00:16:03,614 We asked him what he was doing in the area. 307 00:16:03,614 --> 00:16:06,269 And he said he went out there with his girlfriend. 308 00:16:06,269 --> 00:16:08,053 They were sitting there under the stars, 309 00:16:08,053 --> 00:16:10,186 had a cooler, left the area, 310 00:16:10,186 --> 00:16:12,753 forgot to put the cooler vehicle. 311 00:16:12,753 --> 00:16:14,929 And he had returned to that location 312 00:16:14,929 --> 00:16:16,627 to retrieve his cooler. 313 00:16:16,627 --> 00:16:21,545 He was able to then describe seeing a very unique vehicle 314 00:16:21,545 --> 00:16:24,983 in the area that was stopped along the side of the road 315 00:16:24,983 --> 00:16:27,290 in the vicinity of Mrs Kimmi's home. 316 00:16:27,290 --> 00:16:31,207 And that vehicle was unique because it was a red pickup 317 00:16:31,207 --> 00:16:34,514 truck that had dual wheels on the back. 318 00:16:35,863 --> 00:16:38,431 What the teen tells police next 319 00:16:38,431 --> 00:16:40,172 leaves them stunned. 320 00:16:40,172 --> 00:16:43,654 He also described that as he drove past that truck 321 00:16:43,654 --> 00:16:45,003 on the side of the road, 322 00:16:45,003 --> 00:16:47,614 he could see what he believed was a pair of legs 323 00:16:47,614 --> 00:16:49,225 in the deep grass. 324 00:16:49,225 --> 00:16:53,272 And that those legs were possibly kicking as if someone was 325 00:16:53,272 --> 00:16:57,059 laying on their back at the grass and kicking their legs. 326 00:16:58,538 --> 00:17:02,020 We all thought that if someone was fighting for their life 327 00:17:02,020 --> 00:17:05,154 and as close as it was to Mrs Kimmi's house, 328 00:17:05,154 --> 00:17:06,372 we immediately thought, well, 329 00:17:06,372 --> 00:17:08,896 that was probably Pat on the ground. 330 00:17:08,896 --> 00:17:10,420 It was a good break. 331 00:17:10,420 --> 00:17:12,030 And it was something that we knew we were gonna have to 332 00:17:12,030 --> 00:17:17,166 start focusing on and find out who was capable of kidnapping 333 00:17:17,905 --> 00:17:20,821 and murdering Patricia Kimmi. 334 00:17:31,876 --> 00:17:35,184 Investigators working the no body homicide 335 00:17:35,184 --> 00:17:37,751 of mother of four, Pat Kimmi, 336 00:17:37,751 --> 00:17:41,625 have found a witness who might have seen a roadside attack 337 00:17:41,625 --> 00:17:43,627 the night Pat disappeared. 338 00:17:45,455 --> 00:17:47,544 He was out with a girlfriend, 339 00:17:47,544 --> 00:17:49,589 and on the north side of the roadway, 340 00:17:49,589 --> 00:17:53,898 about where the items were found that had the blood on them, 341 00:17:53,898 --> 00:17:56,814 he saw a red dually pickup. 342 00:17:58,381 --> 00:18:02,733 He said that there was someone on the ground kicking. 343 00:18:02,733 --> 00:18:06,128 He didn't really see anything other than that. 344 00:18:06,128 --> 00:18:08,260 And he left the area. 345 00:18:08,260 --> 00:18:10,393 I think at that point he was young. 346 00:18:10,393 --> 00:18:13,396 He was scared of what was going on. 347 00:18:13,396 --> 00:18:15,963 And really, I don't think he knew exactly 348 00:18:15,963 --> 00:18:17,443 what to do at the time. 349 00:18:17,443 --> 00:18:19,793 There was no reason for him to be making that story up 350 00:18:19,793 --> 00:18:23,536 and put himself at that location when he didn't need to. 351 00:18:23,536 --> 00:18:26,191 So his story was pretty believable. 352 00:18:27,192 --> 00:18:30,413 The gal that he was with, we talked to her. 353 00:18:30,413 --> 00:18:31,979 He had accounts for everything 354 00:18:31,979 --> 00:18:33,285 that he had done that evening. 355 00:18:33,285 --> 00:18:35,853 His girlfriend backed up what he said. 356 00:18:35,853 --> 00:18:39,857 So we had no reason to believe him of being a suspect. 357 00:18:42,816 --> 00:18:46,516 If that truly was Pat Kimmi in the grass, 358 00:18:46,516 --> 00:18:49,258 detectives know it's imperative to identify 359 00:18:49,258 --> 00:18:52,348 the driver of the red dually truck. 360 00:18:52,348 --> 00:18:55,351 To have a description of a red dually pickup 361 00:18:55,351 --> 00:18:57,701 was really a strong lead. 362 00:18:57,701 --> 00:19:02,706 A dually pickup truck is a pickup with dual tires 363 00:19:02,706 --> 00:19:03,707 on the back of it. 364 00:19:05,274 --> 00:19:09,582 My first thought was we've got a potential suspect vehicle 365 00:19:10,540 --> 00:19:11,541 that we need to start looking for. 366 00:19:13,238 --> 00:19:15,327 As police search ownership records 367 00:19:15,327 --> 00:19:17,024 for red dually trucks, 368 00:19:17,024 --> 00:19:21,115 they received the forensics report from the crime scene. 369 00:19:21,115 --> 00:19:23,553 The DNA on the Saylor Insurance cap 370 00:19:23,553 --> 00:19:25,990 was found to be that of a male. 371 00:19:27,296 --> 00:19:31,648 Investigators were able to obtain DNA off of the sweatband 372 00:19:31,648 --> 00:19:34,868 on the inside of that Saylor ball cap. 373 00:19:34,868 --> 00:19:39,830 But you can't just take DNA and say, whose is this? 374 00:19:39,830 --> 00:19:41,397 You need a comparison. 375 00:19:41,397 --> 00:19:44,008 No match is found in the criminal database 376 00:19:44,008 --> 00:19:49,231 for the ball cap DNA, but other evidence is more conclusive. 377 00:19:49,231 --> 00:19:51,537 The money clip, the coins, 378 00:19:51,537 --> 00:19:54,453 the blood on everything found at the second crime scene 379 00:19:54,453 --> 00:19:57,456 all was that of a profile that matched a female. 380 00:19:59,328 --> 00:20:01,678 And so we were able to get the DNA 381 00:20:01,678 --> 00:20:04,594 and be able to positively identify that blood 382 00:20:05,334 --> 00:20:07,249 as belonging to Patricia Kimmi. 383 00:20:13,385 --> 00:20:15,431 While the results are encouraging, 384 00:20:15,431 --> 00:20:20,262 detectives still don't have a body or a primary suspect. 385 00:20:20,262 --> 00:20:22,742 Then, a week after Pat vanished, 386 00:20:22,742 --> 00:20:26,093 her daughter, Rita, remembers something. 387 00:20:26,093 --> 00:20:28,270 I was just thinking about my mom 388 00:20:28,270 --> 00:20:31,577 and pulled up her picture to look at on the computer. 389 00:20:31,577 --> 00:20:36,103 And there was a memory I had of her talking about a man 390 00:20:36,103 --> 00:20:37,931 who had worked on her house. 391 00:20:37,931 --> 00:20:39,281 His name was Dane. 392 00:20:41,544 --> 00:20:45,635 Mom had a contractor at her house, Dane DeWeese, 393 00:20:45,635 --> 00:20:48,899 and she had some work and she had to call him 394 00:20:48,899 --> 00:20:52,598 back a couple times because she wasn't satisfied with it. 395 00:20:52,598 --> 00:20:56,298 Pat had had a contractor from Abilene, Kansas, 396 00:20:56,298 --> 00:20:58,778 come up and do some work on her fireplace. 397 00:20:58,778 --> 00:21:03,130 And she had some disagreements with the contractor 398 00:21:03,130 --> 00:21:05,437 that something wasn't correct. 399 00:21:05,437 --> 00:21:09,311 So I got to thinking about that and pulled him up 400 00:21:09,311 --> 00:21:12,531 on the computer and he had a police record. 401 00:21:12,531 --> 00:21:14,968 So that was very concerning, 402 00:21:14,968 --> 00:21:18,450 just thinking about the fact that he had been around her. 403 00:21:18,450 --> 00:21:21,279 He had access to her home. 404 00:21:21,279 --> 00:21:23,716 And what really raised a flag with him 405 00:21:23,716 --> 00:21:27,329 is when we found out he drove a red pickup. 406 00:21:28,939 --> 00:21:30,593 Well, we're onto something now. 407 00:21:31,681 --> 00:21:34,074 Could Pat and Dane have gotten into an argument 408 00:21:34,074 --> 00:21:38,035 about his work, causing him to violently lash out at her? 409 00:21:42,605 --> 00:21:45,085 Rita alerts police about Dane, 410 00:21:45,085 --> 00:21:48,393 and they immediately bring him in for an interview. 411 00:21:48,393 --> 00:21:49,699 He was very cooperative. 412 00:21:49,699 --> 00:21:52,658 Told us that, yes, he has a red dually pickup. 413 00:21:52,658 --> 00:21:54,878 He told us that he had done some work 414 00:21:54,878 --> 00:21:56,575 for Patricia Kimmi's house. 415 00:21:56,575 --> 00:21:59,535 He was honest and telling us that she was not happy 416 00:21:59,535 --> 00:22:00,927 with some of the work. 417 00:22:00,927 --> 00:22:03,365 He volunteered to come back and fix those items, 418 00:22:03,365 --> 00:22:06,368 which he did, and had thought he had settled 419 00:22:06,368 --> 00:22:07,804 everything with her. 420 00:22:07,804 --> 00:22:11,285 He thought Pat was a very good person to work for. 421 00:22:11,285 --> 00:22:12,852 He said he got it corrected, 422 00:22:12,852 --> 00:22:15,551 and Pat was very appreciative that he got it corrected. 423 00:22:15,551 --> 00:22:19,468 And he said that he thought that everything was okay between 424 00:22:19,468 --> 00:22:22,514 him and Pat and that he would never harm Pat. 425 00:22:25,212 --> 00:22:27,563 Mr. DeWeese did not really have an alibi. 426 00:22:27,563 --> 00:22:30,566 He had nothing to back up his whereabouts 427 00:22:30,566 --> 00:22:32,481 for the night before. 428 00:22:32,481 --> 00:22:35,962 He told the investigators he was at home alone, 429 00:22:35,962 --> 00:22:39,226 but he didn't have anybody that could vouch for that. 430 00:22:39,226 --> 00:22:42,752 And he quickly became our prime suspect. 431 00:22:42,752 --> 00:22:45,798 He allowed us to search the truck, which we did. 432 00:22:47,452 --> 00:22:50,063 When investigators search Dane's truck, 433 00:22:50,063 --> 00:22:52,501 they make a disturbing discovery. 434 00:22:52,501 --> 00:22:55,155 We did find blood in the back of the truck. 435 00:22:55,155 --> 00:22:58,289 We were a little alarmed when we saw the blood 436 00:22:58,289 --> 00:23:00,117 in the back of Mr. DeWeese's truck. 437 00:23:01,292 --> 00:23:03,947 Could it be Pat Kimmi's blood? 438 00:23:03,947 --> 00:23:06,558 And could this be the evidence that blows 439 00:23:06,558 --> 00:23:08,734 the case wide open? 440 00:23:08,734 --> 00:23:11,128 This looked like a very serious matter 441 00:23:12,259 --> 00:23:17,134 and indicated that he perhaps was the person involved, 442 00:23:18,309 --> 00:23:19,571 and the blood in the back of the truck 443 00:23:19,571 --> 00:23:21,486 really made it suspicious. 444 00:23:33,846 --> 00:23:37,154 It's been a week since Pat Kimmi was abducted 445 00:23:37,154 --> 00:23:38,764 and likely killed. 446 00:23:40,026 --> 00:23:44,378 Police suspect contractor, Dane DeWeese is involved, 447 00:23:44,378 --> 00:23:47,338 and have incriminating evidence in his vehicle. 448 00:23:51,690 --> 00:23:55,564 In the pickup we did find blood in the back of the truck. 449 00:23:55,564 --> 00:23:58,392 Mr. DeWeese volunteered that he had recently 450 00:23:58,392 --> 00:23:59,785 been hunting for deer, 451 00:23:59,785 --> 00:24:02,048 and there might have been some blood and fur left 452 00:24:02,048 --> 00:24:03,223 in the back of the bed. 453 00:24:04,529 --> 00:24:07,619 We took samples from the truck of the blood 454 00:24:07,619 --> 00:24:09,229 to confirm his story. 455 00:24:10,666 --> 00:24:14,713 Detectives rushed the samples for DNA analysis. 456 00:24:14,713 --> 00:24:16,889 They were able to determine the blood actually 457 00:24:16,889 --> 00:24:20,763 was from a deer and it was not human blood. 458 00:24:20,763 --> 00:24:23,026 After that, we searched down everything we could 459 00:24:23,026 --> 00:24:26,551 for DeWeese and never could find out any information 460 00:24:26,551 --> 00:24:29,380 that he was even in the area of Pat Kimmi. 461 00:24:29,380 --> 00:24:31,730 So we had to eliminate him. 462 00:24:32,644 --> 00:24:34,646 It was hard to take at the time. 463 00:24:34,646 --> 00:24:37,083 We really thought we were onto something 464 00:24:37,083 --> 00:24:38,650 with the dually pickup, 465 00:24:38,650 --> 00:24:42,524 but there wasn't enough to go forward with. 466 00:24:42,524 --> 00:24:44,613 It was very disappointing. 467 00:24:44,613 --> 00:24:46,571 Right back to square one we go. 468 00:24:48,617 --> 00:24:50,401 With no new suspects, 469 00:24:50,401 --> 00:24:54,231 investigators focus on finding the owner of the red truck, 470 00:24:54,231 --> 00:24:58,801 and the Saylor Insurance hat found on the side of the road. 471 00:24:58,801 --> 00:25:02,544 We talked to the Saylor Insurance company to get a list of 472 00:25:02,544 --> 00:25:06,591 people that would potentially have access to a Saylor hat. 473 00:25:06,591 --> 00:25:09,115 Investigators were able to get a customer list 474 00:25:09,115 --> 00:25:13,772 and find a list of possibilities of a red dually pickup 475 00:25:13,772 --> 00:25:16,122 insured by Saylor Insurance. 476 00:25:17,646 --> 00:25:19,473 Detectives ask Pat's family 477 00:25:19,473 --> 00:25:22,607 if they recognize anyone on the list. 478 00:25:22,607 --> 00:25:24,609 They had us go down through the list, 479 00:25:24,609 --> 00:25:27,830 and Roger Hollister's name stuck out. 480 00:25:27,830 --> 00:25:30,267 He's bought lumber at sawmill before. 481 00:25:30,267 --> 00:25:32,661 They said Roger Hollister had done business 482 00:25:32,661 --> 00:25:34,097 with Eugene Kimmi, 483 00:25:34,097 --> 00:25:38,101 and that Roger Hollister drove a red dually pickup. 484 00:25:43,323 --> 00:25:46,892 Roger Hollister was reported to be somewhat of a hot head, 485 00:25:46,892 --> 00:25:49,634 kind of a person who got upset a lot, 486 00:25:49,634 --> 00:25:52,028 kind of a person who could be violent. 487 00:25:52,985 --> 00:25:55,901 He was not well liked, not a nice guy. 488 00:25:56,902 --> 00:25:59,644 And it was a major red flag for us. 489 00:26:00,950 --> 00:26:04,344 Believing Roger could be a major suspect, 490 00:26:04,344 --> 00:26:08,261 detectives rushed to the Hollister farm to interview him. 491 00:26:08,261 --> 00:26:11,177 We were able to contact Mr. Hollister at his house. 492 00:26:11,177 --> 00:26:15,051 He was wearing a neck brace. He was walking with a cane. 493 00:26:16,530 --> 00:26:18,010 We thought he's a frail old man. 494 00:26:18,010 --> 00:26:20,447 There's no way he could be involved in this. 495 00:26:21,579 --> 00:26:23,712 Roger Hollister told investigators 496 00:26:23,712 --> 00:26:26,584 that he knew Eugene Kimmi had taken logs 497 00:26:26,584 --> 00:26:29,718 over to be processed at the saw mail. 498 00:26:29,718 --> 00:26:33,373 But he had never been to Pat's house. He didn't know Pat. 499 00:26:33,373 --> 00:26:35,724 He denied any knowledge at all 500 00:26:35,724 --> 00:26:38,422 of the disappearance of Patricia Kimmi. 501 00:26:39,728 --> 00:26:42,774 Detectives ask Roger about the ball cap 502 00:26:42,774 --> 00:26:44,776 and the dually truck. 503 00:26:44,776 --> 00:26:46,952 Roger was very cooperative. 504 00:26:46,952 --> 00:26:49,563 He said that he did have a Saylor Insurance kit, 505 00:26:49,563 --> 00:26:52,175 but it got tore up by his dog. 506 00:26:52,175 --> 00:26:55,221 And he said, "Yes, I had a red dually pickup," 507 00:26:55,221 --> 00:26:57,180 but he told us he sold that truck to the guy 508 00:26:57,180 --> 00:27:01,793 by the name of Rick for $2,000 before Pat disappeared. 509 00:27:01,793 --> 00:27:03,403 Investigators ask Roger 510 00:27:03,403 --> 00:27:07,843 to account for his movements the night Pat was abducted. 511 00:27:07,843 --> 00:27:10,541 He said that he'd been at his home the whole night. 512 00:27:10,541 --> 00:27:12,369 His wife left late evening hours 513 00:27:12,369 --> 00:27:15,546 and drove to Kansas City to be with her daughter. 514 00:27:15,546 --> 00:27:17,809 And he was home alone the whole time. 515 00:27:18,723 --> 00:27:20,551 Even though Roger had owned both 516 00:27:20,551 --> 00:27:23,728 a Saylor Insurance hat and a dually truck, 517 00:27:23,728 --> 00:27:26,818 detectives don't believe he's their guy. 518 00:27:26,818 --> 00:27:30,039 We did have some doubt that Mr. Hollister could have been 519 00:27:30,039 --> 00:27:33,564 the person that done this because he had a neck brace on. 520 00:27:33,564 --> 00:27:35,218 He could barely walk. 521 00:27:35,218 --> 00:27:37,960 And they said he appears to be so physically challenged. 522 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,528 We don't think that he would really even be capable of 523 00:27:41,528 --> 00:27:45,010 dragging someone out of their home and hurting them. 524 00:27:45,010 --> 00:27:48,057 At that point, we didn't think that Mr. Hollister 525 00:27:48,057 --> 00:27:50,363 could have been involved in his case. 526 00:27:50,363 --> 00:27:53,279 Detectives dismissed Roger Hollister 527 00:27:53,279 --> 00:27:54,803 as a suspect. 528 00:27:54,803 --> 00:27:58,894 A month has pass since anyone last saw Pat alive, 529 00:27:58,894 --> 00:28:01,070 and investigators are no closer 530 00:28:01,070 --> 00:28:04,508 to locating her killer or her body. 531 00:28:04,508 --> 00:28:07,946 There was a lot of pressure to find Patricia Kimmi. 532 00:28:07,946 --> 00:28:10,470 The investigative team wanted to find her. 533 00:28:10,470 --> 00:28:11,907 The family wanted to find her. 534 00:28:11,907 --> 00:28:14,823 The whole community wanted to find her 535 00:28:14,823 --> 00:28:17,782 and get justice for Patricia Kimmi. 536 00:28:18,652 --> 00:28:20,785 It was getting frustrating 537 00:28:20,785 --> 00:28:23,745 thinking that we might never find her, 538 00:28:23,745 --> 00:28:25,442 never get this case solved. 539 00:28:26,704 --> 00:28:28,358 Two months into the case, 540 00:28:28,358 --> 00:28:32,144 police catch a break when Pat's son, Tony, 541 00:28:32,144 --> 00:28:35,669 and nephew, DJ, show up to the police station 542 00:28:35,669 --> 00:28:37,889 with shocking new information. 543 00:28:38,977 --> 00:28:41,458 They told us that Roger Hollister went over 544 00:28:41,458 --> 00:28:45,505 to the Kimmi sawmill and he wants to talk to Eugene. 545 00:28:45,505 --> 00:28:47,725 But Eugene wasn't there. 546 00:28:47,725 --> 00:28:52,034 The employee at the sawmill DJ Kimmi told the investigators 547 00:28:52,034 --> 00:28:54,906 that Roger said to him, 548 00:28:55,733 --> 00:28:58,344 "Tell Eugene I'm here to collect. 549 00:28:58,344 --> 00:28:59,955 I want my money." 550 00:28:59,955 --> 00:29:03,088 And DJ says, "I don't have your money. 551 00:29:03,088 --> 00:29:05,351 I don't know what you're talking about." 552 00:29:06,222 --> 00:29:10,313 And Roger then said he had taken care of it 553 00:29:10,313 --> 00:29:11,836 in reference to my mom. 554 00:29:13,011 --> 00:29:16,493 And he said, "Well, I'm just here to recoup my money 555 00:29:16,493 --> 00:29:18,321 that I took care of the subject." 556 00:29:18,321 --> 00:29:22,194 And he also stated that the subject will never be found. 557 00:29:24,980 --> 00:29:26,982 It was a major break in the case, 558 00:29:26,982 --> 00:29:29,332 we were onto something now. 559 00:29:36,643 --> 00:29:39,342 Police are investigating the disappearance 560 00:29:39,342 --> 00:29:42,911 and homicide of 58-year-old Pat Kimmi. 561 00:29:44,129 --> 00:29:46,479 Now two months into the case, 562 00:29:46,479 --> 00:29:49,482 they've learned from Pat's family that Roger Hollister 563 00:29:49,482 --> 00:29:54,226 has come looking for money claiming he got rid of Pat. 564 00:29:54,226 --> 00:29:58,013 When Roger said the subject will never be found 565 00:29:58,013 --> 00:30:00,058 referring to my mom like that, 566 00:30:00,058 --> 00:30:02,278 we were all very fearful at that point. 567 00:30:03,932 --> 00:30:05,629 Pat's nephew, DJ, 568 00:30:05,629 --> 00:30:09,763 tells police he remembers he saw Eugene and Roger talking 569 00:30:09,763 --> 00:30:11,983 at the Kimmi sawmill one day. 570 00:30:12,941 --> 00:30:15,247 We believe that maybe Eugene was drinking. 571 00:30:15,247 --> 00:30:18,424 He did not like the situation he was in with his wife. 572 00:30:18,424 --> 00:30:21,253 And maybe he made a comment to Roger, 573 00:30:21,253 --> 00:30:24,213 said he wanted to do away with his wife. 574 00:30:25,562 --> 00:30:26,606 As we confirmed, 575 00:30:26,606 --> 00:30:28,434 there was numerous comments made 576 00:30:28,434 --> 00:30:31,046 to numerous people to that effect. 577 00:30:31,046 --> 00:30:34,179 He didn't like the divorce settlement, lost land. 578 00:30:34,179 --> 00:30:36,312 He was making alimony payments. 579 00:30:36,312 --> 00:30:38,575 That's a strong motive for murder. 580 00:30:39,532 --> 00:30:43,188 So our thought process was maybe he was drunk 581 00:30:43,188 --> 00:30:45,582 and maybe Eugene told Roger, 582 00:30:46,975 --> 00:30:49,978 "I'd pay somebody to get rid of my wife." 583 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,286 Despite having previously ruled Eugene out, 584 00:30:54,286 --> 00:30:57,115 police circle back and check his finances 585 00:30:57,115 --> 00:30:59,639 for any evidence of a payout. 586 00:30:59,639 --> 00:31:02,120 Law enforcement went through Eugene's bank records, 587 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,602 and there was no activity on his checking account. 588 00:31:05,602 --> 00:31:09,998 We saw no indication that money was actually paid out. 589 00:31:11,216 --> 00:31:13,262 We executed a search warrant 590 00:31:13,262 --> 00:31:16,047 on the sawmill of Eugene Kimmi, 591 00:31:16,047 --> 00:31:19,355 but we really didn't find anything that would substantiate 592 00:31:19,355 --> 00:31:22,140 Eugene's involvement in the case. 593 00:31:24,142 --> 00:31:27,363 Undeterred, detectives focus on tracking down 594 00:31:27,363 --> 00:31:30,975 the red dually truck Roger had once owned. 595 00:31:30,975 --> 00:31:32,977 Initially told us that he sold that truck 596 00:31:32,977 --> 00:31:36,198 to a guy by the name of Rick for $2,000. 597 00:31:36,198 --> 00:31:39,027 We searched a VIN number for a pickup 598 00:31:39,027 --> 00:31:40,854 belonging to Roger Hollister, 599 00:31:40,854 --> 00:31:43,814 but was not put in the name of anybody by the name of Rick. 600 00:31:43,814 --> 00:31:46,251 And we found out that the truck was actually sold 601 00:31:46,251 --> 00:31:49,167 to a dealership in Tekamah, Nebraska. 602 00:31:49,167 --> 00:31:51,474 Investigators learned that Roger 603 00:31:51,474 --> 00:31:54,085 bought the truck back from the dealership 604 00:31:54,085 --> 00:31:56,740 12 days after Pat went missing. 605 00:31:58,176 --> 00:32:00,570 He lied about his truck being sold. 606 00:32:00,570 --> 00:32:03,834 Why did he do this if he wasn't involved in this case? 607 00:32:05,183 --> 00:32:07,403 When police bring Roger to the station 608 00:32:07,403 --> 00:32:11,929 for another interview, they cannot believe their eyes. 609 00:32:11,929 --> 00:32:14,758 He was not the same person as he had been. 610 00:32:15,933 --> 00:32:17,587 The first interview with Roger, 611 00:32:17,587 --> 00:32:20,590 he wore the neck brace, he walked with a cane, 612 00:32:22,070 --> 00:32:24,159 but now he comes through that door 613 00:32:24,159 --> 00:32:27,597 like there was nothing wrong with him whatsoever. 614 00:32:28,598 --> 00:32:30,992 We were very shocked. 615 00:32:30,992 --> 00:32:32,167 I don't think anything at all 616 00:32:32,167 --> 00:32:33,385 was wrong with Roger Hollister. 617 00:32:33,385 --> 00:32:35,909 I think he just was using that as a front 618 00:32:35,909 --> 00:32:38,216 for everything that was going on. 619 00:32:38,216 --> 00:32:41,176 Anytime a suspect is untruthful with you, 620 00:32:41,176 --> 00:32:45,049 that just makes them look all the more suspicious. 621 00:32:45,049 --> 00:32:46,442 Roger tells police 622 00:32:46,442 --> 00:32:48,879 he went to the sawmill to buy lumber, 623 00:32:48,879 --> 00:32:54,319 and denies speaking to Eugene or DJ about Pat or any money. 624 00:32:55,538 --> 00:32:58,889 But when pressed about the truck, his story changes. 625 00:32:58,889 --> 00:33:02,980 Roger said that he'd sold it to a group of Mexicans that 626 00:33:02,980 --> 00:33:04,721 were passing through the area. 627 00:33:04,721 --> 00:33:07,767 He did not know their names or anything about them. 628 00:33:07,767 --> 00:33:09,508 That sounded fabricated. 629 00:33:10,466 --> 00:33:15,253 His story, it changed every time. 630 00:33:16,646 --> 00:33:18,343 With suspicion growing, 631 00:33:18,343 --> 00:33:21,607 detectives ask Roger for a DNA sample. 632 00:33:23,348 --> 00:33:27,526 When the results come back, the news is conclusive. 633 00:33:28,701 --> 00:33:33,532 We found out that the DNA on the Saylor Insurance hat 634 00:33:34,272 --> 00:33:35,360 belongs to Roger holster. 635 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:41,801 That was a very big moment because now we know that 636 00:33:41,801 --> 00:33:44,108 he was at that crime scene 637 00:33:44,108 --> 00:33:46,284 Because his DNA is found there. 638 00:33:46,284 --> 00:33:48,678 We knew he was involved. 639 00:33:50,462 --> 00:33:53,465 Detectives now have enough probable cause 640 00:33:53,465 --> 00:33:56,294 to serve a search warrant on Roger's farm. 641 00:33:57,165 --> 00:33:59,123 We took a track hawk out there 642 00:33:59,123 --> 00:34:01,995 and we was able to pick things up, dig around. 643 00:34:01,995 --> 00:34:05,825 And what was found was parts of the truck. 644 00:34:06,913 --> 00:34:08,350 A lot of the stuff had been buried 645 00:34:08,350 --> 00:34:11,222 and it had been burned pretty severely. 646 00:34:11,222 --> 00:34:14,878 And of course, we couldn't get DNA because of the fire. 647 00:34:14,878 --> 00:34:19,535 And the VIN number matched Roger Hollister's truck. 648 00:34:20,710 --> 00:34:24,322 It was then obvious that Roger Hollister had destroyed that 649 00:34:24,322 --> 00:34:26,890 truck and was attempting to conceal it. 650 00:34:28,370 --> 00:34:30,676 At that point we had what we thought was a very good 651 00:34:30,676 --> 00:34:33,244 circumstantial case against Roger Hollister. 652 00:34:33,244 --> 00:34:35,420 We searched the property, 653 00:34:35,420 --> 00:34:38,771 but we still didn't have a body of Patricia Kimmi. 654 00:34:38,771 --> 00:34:41,861 Our prosecutor kept saying we need a body. 655 00:34:43,689 --> 00:34:46,910 Then a few weeks after finding the truck, 656 00:34:48,085 --> 00:34:50,740 investigators get some alarming news. 657 00:34:50,740 --> 00:34:54,178 I received a phone call from investigators who said, 658 00:34:54,178 --> 00:34:55,571 "You're never gonna believe this. 659 00:34:55,571 --> 00:34:57,355 Roger Hollister and Rebecca Hollister 660 00:34:57,355 --> 00:34:59,966 were just involved in a vehicle accident." 661 00:35:01,316 --> 00:35:04,884 The investigator said that the vehicle had turned in front 662 00:35:04,884 --> 00:35:08,366 of a semi tanker and hit head on. 663 00:35:10,107 --> 00:35:11,804 Rebecca was seriously injured to the point 664 00:35:11,804 --> 00:35:13,589 that she had to have surgery. 665 00:35:13,589 --> 00:35:16,679 Roger, who was the driver of the vehicle, 666 00:35:16,679 --> 00:35:20,335 didn't sustain any real serious injuries. 667 00:35:20,335 --> 00:35:23,251 And if the truck driver hadn't paid attention, 668 00:35:24,991 --> 00:35:25,992 there's probably a good chance 669 00:35:25,992 --> 00:35:27,646 they would've both been killed. 670 00:35:29,431 --> 00:35:31,433 Detectives rush to the hospital 671 00:35:31,433 --> 00:35:33,565 to speak with the Hollisters. 672 00:35:33,565 --> 00:35:35,959 And Roger's wife, Rebecca, tells them 673 00:35:35,959 --> 00:35:39,528 she believes her husband was trying to kill them both. 674 00:35:41,660 --> 00:35:44,228 Why is he trying to commit suicide? 675 00:35:44,228 --> 00:35:46,622 Why is he trying to kill Rebecca in the car? 676 00:35:49,581 --> 00:35:54,804 I think that the walls were closing in and Roger knew it. 677 00:35:55,718 --> 00:35:57,198 Roger knew we were closing in on him. 678 00:35:57,198 --> 00:35:59,591 There was an arrest warrant issued for Roger Hollister 679 00:35:59,591 --> 00:36:01,985 for attempted murder on Rebecca. 680 00:36:03,465 --> 00:36:05,293 And he was charged for that. 681 00:36:08,470 --> 00:36:09,645 Now in custody, 682 00:36:09,645 --> 00:36:12,213 Roger says he wants to tell police 683 00:36:12,213 --> 00:36:15,259 what really happened to Pat Kimmi. 684 00:36:15,259 --> 00:36:17,522 He said that he was with Eugene 685 00:36:17,522 --> 00:36:20,046 when the kidnapping occurred. 686 00:36:20,046 --> 00:36:23,136 He said, yes, his truck was used in the crime, 687 00:36:23,136 --> 00:36:25,400 but Eugene forced him to go. 688 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:29,230 He said that he just drove Eugene Kimmi, 689 00:36:29,230 --> 00:36:31,493 and that Eugene Kimmi killed Patricia. 690 00:36:33,146 --> 00:36:36,062 And so is Eugene still involved somehow? 691 00:36:36,062 --> 00:36:37,499 We don't know for sure. 692 00:36:39,327 --> 00:36:41,285 Detectives bring Eugene in 693 00:36:41,285 --> 00:36:42,852 for another interview. 694 00:36:43,983 --> 00:36:46,812 He admitted that he did not like the situation 695 00:36:46,812 --> 00:36:48,205 he was in with his wife, 696 00:36:48,205 --> 00:36:51,600 but he says, "I would never harm her or kill her." 697 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,298 Eugene says, "Oh yeah, I may have mentioned that 698 00:36:54,298 --> 00:36:56,953 I would like to see her dead, 699 00:36:56,953 --> 00:37:00,696 but I didn't offer money to Roger to kill her." 700 00:37:00,696 --> 00:37:04,569 Eugene Kimmi did not deny that he had made those remarks, 701 00:37:04,569 --> 00:37:07,311 but that he had said it more in anger, 702 00:37:07,311 --> 00:37:08,834 just a person running their mouth 703 00:37:08,834 --> 00:37:11,097 that's upset with their ex-spouse. 704 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,536 Detectives have no solid proof 705 00:37:14,536 --> 00:37:17,190 Eugene was with Roger that night 706 00:37:17,190 --> 00:37:20,324 or that any money ever changed hands. 707 00:37:20,324 --> 00:37:21,804 As a result, 708 00:37:21,804 --> 00:37:24,850 we were never able to tie Eugene Kimmi into the murder. 709 00:37:24,850 --> 00:37:28,637 Never had sufficient evidence to charge Eugene Kimmi. 710 00:37:30,378 --> 00:37:32,467 Police release Eugene. 711 00:37:34,033 --> 00:37:37,733 Then, six months after Pat's disappearance, 712 00:37:37,733 --> 00:37:42,041 Rebecca Hollister asked to meet investigators. 713 00:37:42,041 --> 00:37:44,566 She was very upset. 714 00:37:44,566 --> 00:37:47,656 You could tell that the woman was filled with guilt. 715 00:37:48,787 --> 00:37:52,356 She told investigators that she knew where Patricia Kimmi 716 00:37:52,356 --> 00:37:56,360 was and she wanted to take them to the body. 717 00:38:06,152 --> 00:38:08,416 It's been six months since police believe 718 00:38:08,416 --> 00:38:11,593 Pat Kimmi was abducted and murdered. 719 00:38:11,593 --> 00:38:13,769 Now their prime suspect's wife, 720 00:38:13,769 --> 00:38:18,513 Rebecca Hollister, is at the station and wanting to talk. 721 00:38:18,513 --> 00:38:22,081 She told investigators that she knew where the body was 722 00:38:22,081 --> 00:38:24,867 and she told them that the body was at their farm. 723 00:38:28,958 --> 00:38:30,525 We were shocked. 724 00:38:30,525 --> 00:38:34,006 I think she was realizing that she better come clean. 725 00:38:34,006 --> 00:38:37,183 And I think she decided to do the right thing 726 00:38:37,183 --> 00:38:38,620 by giving us the body. 727 00:38:39,534 --> 00:38:41,579 Rebecca Hollister was offered immunity. 728 00:38:41,579 --> 00:38:44,930 If she would cooperate with us and be truthful, 729 00:38:44,930 --> 00:38:47,890 we would grant her immunity from prosecution. 730 00:38:48,978 --> 00:38:51,328 Rebecca claims her husband, Roger, 731 00:38:51,328 --> 00:38:55,854 told her where he buried Pat Kimmi on their 40 acre farm. 732 00:38:55,854 --> 00:38:59,423 She took us to the property and she says, 733 00:38:59,423 --> 00:39:02,078 "I think she's down there," 734 00:39:02,078 --> 00:39:03,471 and points towards the ditch. 735 00:39:03,471 --> 00:39:07,692 And sure enough, exposed to everybody 736 00:39:07,692 --> 00:39:12,915 was about a six to seven inch section spine. 737 00:39:14,482 --> 00:39:18,747 We found a piece of the vertebrae with some ribs attached 738 00:39:18,747 --> 00:39:21,967 and we found another short piece of the ribs. 739 00:39:21,967 --> 00:39:25,057 The body was burnt. The body was cut up. 740 00:39:25,057 --> 00:39:26,668 The body was crushed. 741 00:39:26,668 --> 00:39:28,452 I mean, he destroyed her body. 742 00:39:28,452 --> 00:39:29,888 And lucky enough, 743 00:39:29,888 --> 00:39:33,109 we found enough of the remains identify that we knew 744 00:39:33,109 --> 00:39:34,632 we had Patricia Kimmi. 745 00:39:35,981 --> 00:39:40,029 One of the officers told me that her body had been 746 00:39:40,029 --> 00:39:41,770 dismembered and burned. 747 00:39:41,770 --> 00:39:45,034 And that was very hard, 748 00:39:45,034 --> 00:39:46,252 one of the hardest days. 749 00:39:48,124 --> 00:39:49,952 When we recovered the body, 750 00:39:49,952 --> 00:39:52,389 I felt we had a very strong case. 751 00:39:52,389 --> 00:39:54,130 I felt we had the right man. 752 00:39:54,130 --> 00:39:56,741 I felt we had the evidence to convict him. 753 00:39:58,264 --> 00:40:00,702 On June 4th, 2010, 754 00:40:00,702 --> 00:40:04,357 Roger Hollister is charged with first degree murder. 755 00:40:05,576 --> 00:40:08,318 At the trial, prosecutors present a picture 756 00:40:08,318 --> 00:40:10,712 of what they believe happened to Pat 757 00:40:10,712 --> 00:40:12,583 the night she was murdered. 758 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,849 Roger went to her house, got her to open that door. 759 00:40:17,849 --> 00:40:21,244 And when she did, Roger pushed through, 760 00:40:21,244 --> 00:40:23,072 was able to grab Patricia, 761 00:40:23,072 --> 00:40:26,205 subdue her and take her out to that truck. 762 00:40:27,380 --> 00:40:31,123 He got her into that truck and took off down her driveway. 763 00:40:31,994 --> 00:40:34,387 As he turned the corner onto the gravel road, 764 00:40:35,301 --> 00:40:37,260 she somehow got away from him. 765 00:40:38,304 --> 00:40:40,002 She jumped out of that truck 766 00:40:40,002 --> 00:40:42,308 and he pursued her into that ditch. 767 00:40:43,484 --> 00:40:45,355 There was a confrontation. 768 00:40:45,355 --> 00:40:48,750 I think she put up one heck of a fight and she was fighting 769 00:40:48,750 --> 00:40:52,667 for her life when she was killed kicking on that ground. 770 00:40:54,451 --> 00:40:55,974 We believe that Patricia Kimmi 771 00:40:55,974 --> 00:40:59,761 died on the side of that road where the evidence is found. 772 00:41:00,979 --> 00:41:03,460 And that he then got her into that truck, 773 00:41:03,460 --> 00:41:07,595 returned back to his farm and tried to burn the body 774 00:41:07,595 --> 00:41:10,162 and then chopped up what was left, 775 00:41:10,162 --> 00:41:12,774 and buried it there on the side of the Creek. 776 00:41:14,123 --> 00:41:16,995 And then he went and tried to get his money. 777 00:41:19,650 --> 00:41:23,132 We were never able to recover any financial records 778 00:41:23,132 --> 00:41:25,961 indicating any money changing hands, 779 00:41:25,961 --> 00:41:28,137 but yet we knew that had to be the motive 780 00:41:28,137 --> 00:41:30,574 because Roger Hollister had no other reason 781 00:41:30,574 --> 00:41:32,271 to kill Patricia Kimmi, 782 00:41:32,271 --> 00:41:37,668 other than hoping to being paid by Eugene Kimmi. 783 00:41:38,626 --> 00:41:40,889 We believed that maybe Eugene was mouthing off 784 00:41:40,889 --> 00:41:45,197 about paying to kill Patricia, and that Roger heard that. 785 00:41:45,197 --> 00:41:48,679 I think that Eugene made one of those drunken comments 786 00:41:48,679 --> 00:41:51,639 that he would like to see his wife dead, 787 00:41:51,639 --> 00:41:54,206 and Roger acted alone and went out and done it. 788 00:41:55,556 --> 00:41:57,906 That was a very big shock. 789 00:41:57,906 --> 00:42:00,996 You really couldn't make up a case like this. 790 00:42:00,996 --> 00:42:04,956 And it really was like something written for TV, 791 00:42:04,956 --> 00:42:06,915 but it wasn't, it was real. 792 00:42:07,872 --> 00:42:10,005 To cut a body up and burn a body up, 793 00:42:10,005 --> 00:42:12,616 that's one of the most evil things you can do. 794 00:42:12,616 --> 00:42:14,487 That was very unexpected. 795 00:42:14,487 --> 00:42:16,881 There was a lot of twists and turns, 796 00:42:18,013 --> 00:42:21,886 but ultimately, we just wanted justice for mom. 797 00:42:25,977 --> 00:42:28,980 On March 1st, 2011, 798 00:42:28,980 --> 00:42:33,115 a jury finds Roger Hollister guilty of murder. 799 00:42:33,811 --> 00:42:35,204 At the sentencing, 800 00:42:35,204 --> 00:42:37,685 Roger got life without the possibility of parole. 801 00:42:37,685 --> 00:42:39,861 So we knew once he was in prison, 802 00:42:39,861 --> 00:42:43,125 he was not coming out until it was a pine box. 803 00:42:45,127 --> 00:42:47,608 Two years after being convicted, 804 00:42:47,608 --> 00:42:51,350 Roger Hollister dies in jail from ill health. 805 00:42:55,746 --> 00:42:58,227 You know, I don't know if that will ever seem fair 806 00:42:58,227 --> 00:43:01,273 that he spent such a short time in prison. 807 00:43:03,232 --> 00:43:06,148 It wouldn't be enough if it was a 1,000 years 808 00:43:07,366 --> 00:43:09,238 for taking our mom's life. 809 00:43:11,022 --> 00:43:14,417 I think we all just hoped to be half of the person 810 00:43:14,417 --> 00:43:16,027 that she raised us to be. 811 00:43:17,028 --> 00:43:20,075 Our mother was a saint on earth, 812 00:43:20,075 --> 00:43:22,425 the kindest woman you'd ever meet. 813 00:43:22,425 --> 00:43:26,124 There's no doubt in my mind she's in heaven with God above. 814 00:43:27,735 --> 00:43:30,476 You just miss her every day.