1 00:00:04,047 --> 00:00:05,222 Barbara was very creative. 2 00:00:05,222 --> 00:00:08,355 She was always very theatrical. 3 00:00:08,355 --> 00:00:10,140 I always thought she was a genius 4 00:00:10,140 --> 00:00:14,231 because everything came so easy to her. 5 00:00:14,231 --> 00:00:16,102 [Narrator] Is found brutally murdered 6 00:00:16,102 --> 00:00:17,799 in a mountain canyon. [suspenseful music] 7 00:00:17,799 --> 00:00:19,105 [gunfire blasting] 8 00:00:19,105 --> 00:00:21,238 We could see five or six gunshot wounds. 9 00:00:21,238 --> 00:00:23,022 There was some speculation 10 00:00:23,022 --> 00:00:24,328 that she had been sexually assaulted. 11 00:00:24,328 --> 00:00:26,025 [Narrator] A clue left by the victim 12 00:00:26,025 --> 00:00:28,245 leads to surprising suspects. 13 00:00:28,245 --> 00:00:32,118 He finds this note addressed to all the Mormon roommates 14 00:00:32,118 --> 00:00:35,121 that she was leaving to go be with her people. 15 00:00:35,121 --> 00:00:37,428 Just how bad was this relationship 16 00:00:37,428 --> 00:00:39,038 with her roommates, 17 00:00:39,038 --> 00:00:42,041 and what could it cause anyone to do? 18 00:00:42,041 --> 00:00:44,783 [Narrator] And a series of bizarre twists. 19 00:00:45,740 --> 00:00:47,133 He's telling us that 20 00:00:47,133 --> 00:00:49,179 bullet holes were in a triangular pattern, 21 00:00:49,179 --> 00:00:53,139 and that that's a sign of a possible Satan killing. 22 00:00:53,139 --> 00:00:55,228 Somebody took her up there into the woods. 23 00:00:55,228 --> 00:00:57,274 This was potentially a sacrifice. 24 00:00:57,274 --> 00:01:00,190 [Narrator] Until the evidence reveals a killer 25 00:01:00,190 --> 00:01:01,887 no one saw coming. 26 00:01:01,887 --> 00:01:06,544 There was DNA from the soil that was underneath her body. 27 00:01:06,544 --> 00:01:09,068 It was like finding a needle in a haystack, 28 00:01:09,068 --> 00:01:10,548 a big haystack. 29 00:01:10,548 --> 00:01:12,158 He just didn't seem like somebody 30 00:01:12,158 --> 00:01:13,855 who would kill somebody. 31 00:01:13,855 --> 00:01:18,121 It was just the biggest shock you could fathom. 32 00:01:19,078 --> 00:01:21,863 [dramatic music] 33 00:01:26,129 --> 00:01:29,044 [bright music] 34 00:01:29,044 --> 00:01:32,004 [Narrator] Provo, Utah, a small college town 35 00:01:32,004 --> 00:01:34,180 in a picture-perfect mountain setting. 36 00:01:36,051 --> 00:01:37,792 It sits in a county south of Salt Lake. 37 00:01:37,792 --> 00:01:41,318 It's where the Brigham Young University campus is at. 38 00:01:41,318 --> 00:01:43,233 It's a very safe community. 39 00:01:43,233 --> 00:01:47,106 During the 1970s, Provo was definitely 40 00:01:47,106 --> 00:01:50,065 a place that was very low on crime, 41 00:01:50,065 --> 00:01:51,589 and you didn't have to worry 42 00:01:51,589 --> 00:01:53,895 about locking your doors at night. 43 00:01:53,895 --> 00:01:55,375 [Narrator] That innocence is lost 44 00:01:55,375 --> 00:01:58,944 on a cold March afternoon in 1974, 45 00:01:58,944 --> 00:02:01,686 when a grisly discovery in a nearby canyon 46 00:02:01,686 --> 00:02:04,210 sends shockwaves through the community. 47 00:02:04,210 --> 00:02:06,386 On March 11, 1974, 48 00:02:06,386 --> 00:02:08,301 the Salt Lake County Sheriff's office 49 00:02:08,301 --> 00:02:12,044 received a telephone call from a power company worker 50 00:02:12,044 --> 00:02:15,134 who had started walking up from the power plant, 51 00:02:15,134 --> 00:02:16,614 [dramatic music] 52 00:02:16,614 --> 00:02:18,442 and as he was cutting through some brush, 53 00:02:18,442 --> 00:02:20,313 he came across a white female 54 00:02:20,313 --> 00:02:22,837 with gunshot wounds to her back. 55 00:02:24,274 --> 00:02:26,232 The crime scene is essentially 56 00:02:26,232 --> 00:02:28,147 a couple of miles up what we call 57 00:02:28,147 --> 00:02:29,801 Big Cottonwood Canyon. 58 00:02:29,801 --> 00:02:32,151 [Narrator] Investigators race to the canyon 59 00:02:32,151 --> 00:02:35,372 where the utility worker leads them to the body. 60 00:02:35,372 --> 00:02:38,288 We could see five or six gunshot wounds. 61 00:02:38,288 --> 00:02:42,292 All of them looked to be in her back or in her arm. 62 00:02:42,292 --> 00:02:46,165 The shot placements looked like execution type shots, 63 00:02:46,165 --> 00:02:48,036 and it looked like she had been there 64 00:02:48,036 --> 00:02:50,169 for a few hours at least. 65 00:02:50,169 --> 00:02:52,476 With the way that her body was positioned, 66 00:02:52,476 --> 00:02:56,306 we felt like sexual assault was part of this crime scene. 67 00:02:56,306 --> 00:02:59,178 Her arms were tucked up underneath her. 68 00:02:59,178 --> 00:03:01,311 That told us that she was in pain. 69 00:03:01,311 --> 00:03:04,139 That she was fearful of what was happening to her. 70 00:03:04,139 --> 00:03:06,707 We're looking for things like drag marks, 71 00:03:06,707 --> 00:03:11,321 but the ground around the body was not disturbed. 72 00:03:11,321 --> 00:03:14,454 It looks like where she was is where she was killed. 73 00:03:16,021 --> 00:03:18,284 [Narrator] Detectives are stuck buy an unusual detail. 74 00:03:18,284 --> 00:03:20,112 Her clothes were folded neatly 75 00:03:20,112 --> 00:03:22,027 and piled towards the top of her head. 76 00:03:22,027 --> 00:03:23,289 We suspected that the victim 77 00:03:23,289 --> 00:03:25,509 was probably trying to buy some time. 78 00:03:25,509 --> 00:03:27,902 As she was being told to undress, 79 00:03:27,902 --> 00:03:31,471 she was stacking her clothes in this neat pile. 80 00:03:31,471 --> 00:03:33,299 [Narrator] More evidence is revealed 81 00:03:33,299 --> 00:03:35,083 when they turn the victim over. 82 00:03:35,083 --> 00:03:37,216 We found some possibly 83 00:03:37,216 --> 00:03:39,871 38 caliber bullets that were recovered 84 00:03:39,871 --> 00:03:42,177 after they had gone through the victim's body. 85 00:03:42,177 --> 00:03:44,267 We also picked up some soil 86 00:03:44,267 --> 00:03:46,312 and logged it into our evidence room. 87 00:03:46,312 --> 00:03:47,705 Detectives back in the '70s, 88 00:03:47,705 --> 00:03:49,272 the didn't have the DNA that we have 89 00:03:49,272 --> 00:03:52,318 in today's crime scene investigations. 90 00:03:52,318 --> 00:03:54,364 They focused on all kinds of trace evidence 91 00:03:54,364 --> 00:03:58,063 like the soil, fibers, hairs, 92 00:03:58,063 --> 00:03:59,891 may link the suspect to that scene. 93 00:03:59,891 --> 00:04:01,458 [suspenseful music] 94 00:04:01,458 --> 00:04:03,721 [Narrator] While the body is taken to the morgue, 95 00:04:03,721 --> 00:04:06,898 detectives interview their only witness. 96 00:04:06,898 --> 00:04:08,726 The only thing we really knew at this point 97 00:04:08,726 --> 00:04:12,425 was a utility worker had found this body, 98 00:04:12,425 --> 00:04:15,254 and we were able to clear him fairly quickly. 99 00:04:15,254 --> 00:04:17,082 But we didn't know who the victim was. 100 00:04:17,082 --> 00:04:18,779 We didn't have any other real suspects 101 00:04:18,779 --> 00:04:20,128 to go with at that point. 102 00:04:20,128 --> 00:04:22,392 We got a hold of the local media. 103 00:04:22,392 --> 00:04:26,396 Let them know that we had a white female Jane Doe 104 00:04:26,396 --> 00:04:28,354 that we were trying to identify. 105 00:04:28,354 --> 00:04:29,486 Later that night, 106 00:04:29,486 --> 00:04:31,357 we received a telephone call 107 00:04:31,357 --> 00:04:34,273 from the Brigham Young University Police Department 108 00:04:34,273 --> 00:04:37,363 that they had received a missing person report 109 00:04:37,363 --> 00:04:39,539 of a white female earlier that day. 110 00:04:39,539 --> 00:04:42,107 The missing person in Provo 111 00:04:42,107 --> 00:04:44,370 matched the description of our Jane Doe. 112 00:04:44,370 --> 00:04:45,502 [Narrator] The missing person 113 00:04:45,502 --> 00:04:47,373 is 22-year-old student, 114 00:04:47,373 --> 00:04:49,114 Barbara Jean Rocky, 115 00:04:49,114 --> 00:04:51,421 but police need a formal identification 116 00:04:51,421 --> 00:04:54,859 to be sure she's also their murder victim. 117 00:04:54,859 --> 00:04:57,514 [Todd] We made a phone call down to a couple of the guys 118 00:04:57,514 --> 00:04:59,385 that were hanging out with Barbara. 119 00:04:59,385 --> 00:05:01,082 Gerry Hicker is the one that filed 120 00:05:01,082 --> 00:05:02,301 the missing person's report. 121 00:05:02,301 --> 00:05:05,435 Gerry is also a student at BYU, 122 00:05:05,435 --> 00:05:07,480 and he was a friend of Barbara's 123 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,743 and some of her roommates. 124 00:05:09,743 --> 00:05:13,312 Edward Fisher and Gerry Hicker went to the morgue 125 00:05:13,312 --> 00:05:16,271 to do an identification on our Jane Doe. 126 00:05:16,271 --> 00:05:17,751 [Narrator] Edward and Gerry confirm 127 00:05:17,751 --> 00:05:20,580 the murdered woman is Barbara Rocky. 128 00:05:21,842 --> 00:05:23,801 Police now face the difficult task 129 00:05:23,801 --> 00:05:25,542 of informing her family. 130 00:05:25,542 --> 00:05:27,195 At the time of Barbara's murder, 131 00:05:27,195 --> 00:05:30,155 my parents were living in California. 132 00:05:30,155 --> 00:05:33,550 My mom found out first from the police, 133 00:05:33,550 --> 00:05:37,118 and was crying, and from then on, 134 00:05:37,118 --> 00:05:39,382 nothing was the same. 135 00:05:40,208 --> 00:05:41,732 It was just 136 00:05:43,473 --> 00:05:45,344 the biggest shock you could fathom. 137 00:05:45,344 --> 00:05:47,085 [somber music] 138 00:05:47,085 --> 00:05:52,482 It's like what you knew of the world has just imploded. 139 00:05:53,221 --> 00:05:55,833 [somber music] 140 00:05:55,833 --> 00:05:57,138 [upbeat music] 141 00:05:57,138 --> 00:05:58,444 [Narrator] Born in 1952, 142 00:05:58,444 --> 00:06:00,490 Barbara had an idyllic childhood 143 00:06:00,490 --> 00:06:03,318 growing up in Menlo Park, California. 144 00:06:03,318 --> 00:06:04,494 Barbara was very creative. 145 00:06:04,494 --> 00:06:07,540 She was always very theatrical. 146 00:06:07,540 --> 00:06:09,542 I always thought she was a genius 147 00:06:09,542 --> 00:06:12,937 because languages and music 148 00:06:12,937 --> 00:06:15,505 came so easy to her. 149 00:06:15,505 --> 00:06:20,379 Barbara was always rooting for the underdog. 150 00:06:20,379 --> 00:06:22,468 If somebody needed help, 151 00:06:22,468 --> 00:06:24,731 she would open doors for them. 152 00:06:24,731 --> 00:06:27,821 I mean, always doing something very sweet. 153 00:06:27,821 --> 00:06:29,475 [upbeat music] 154 00:06:29,475 --> 00:06:31,564 [Narrator] When the time came to go to college, 155 00:06:31,564 --> 00:06:35,568 Barbara's choice reflected a growing spiritual interest. 156 00:06:35,568 --> 00:06:40,791 Barbara was always searching for a religion. 157 00:06:42,096 --> 00:06:43,358 Barbara was interested in the Mormon religion. 158 00:06:43,358 --> 00:06:45,099 My parents were very happy 159 00:06:46,231 --> 00:06:47,406 for her to go to Brigham Young 160 00:06:47,406 --> 00:06:48,538 because they felt that she would 161 00:06:48,538 --> 00:06:50,496 get the safe group of friends 162 00:06:50,496 --> 00:06:52,498 and the good education 163 00:06:52,498 --> 00:06:56,241 and religion that she required. 164 00:06:56,241 --> 00:06:58,243 When Barbara went off to college, 165 00:06:58,243 --> 00:07:00,898 she seemed up and happy, and 166 00:07:02,465 --> 00:07:04,510 like things were going well. 167 00:07:04,510 --> 00:07:07,165 [Narrator] Investigators ask Barbara's loved ones 168 00:07:07,165 --> 00:07:11,082 if they can think of anyone who might be responsible. 169 00:07:11,082 --> 00:07:15,913 Since she was away at college and out of our supervision, 170 00:07:15,913 --> 00:07:17,828 we had no idea 171 00:07:18,916 --> 00:07:20,526 what she was doing. 172 00:07:20,526 --> 00:07:24,530 We just didn't know what kind of friends she was making. 173 00:07:24,530 --> 00:07:26,227 In speaking with the family, 174 00:07:26,227 --> 00:07:30,231 they just had no idea on who could have done this to her. 175 00:07:30,231 --> 00:07:33,539 [Narrator] With the family unable to provide leads, 176 00:07:33,539 --> 00:07:35,628 detectives hope her college friends 177 00:07:35,628 --> 00:07:37,282 might be able to point them 178 00:07:37,282 --> 00:07:38,936 in the right direction. 179 00:07:38,936 --> 00:07:43,288 Ed Fisher was dating one of Barbara's roommates. 180 00:07:43,288 --> 00:07:45,725 When asked if he had any idea 181 00:07:45,725 --> 00:07:47,901 who would have done this to Barbara, 182 00:07:47,901 --> 00:07:49,468 he just had no idea. 183 00:07:49,468 --> 00:07:50,904 He felt Gerry Hicker might have 184 00:07:50,904 --> 00:07:53,559 more information about Barbara than he would. 185 00:07:53,559 --> 00:07:56,823 Gerry Hicker is also a student at BYU, 186 00:07:56,823 --> 00:08:00,131 and Barbara seemed to spend lots of time with him. 187 00:08:00,131 --> 00:08:03,438 Gerry described that he was just devastated 188 00:08:03,438 --> 00:08:04,744 that this had happened to Barbara. 189 00:08:04,744 --> 00:08:07,094 He knew Barbara very well. 190 00:08:07,094 --> 00:08:09,314 [Narrator] Police ask Gerry what led him 191 00:08:09,314 --> 00:08:11,316 to file a missing person's report 192 00:08:11,316 --> 00:08:15,059 just hours before Barbara was found dead? 193 00:08:15,059 --> 00:08:18,323 He said that he had gone skiing the day before, 194 00:08:18,323 --> 00:08:20,978 used Barbara's car to take the skis back, 195 00:08:20,978 --> 00:08:24,590 and then he met up with Barbara on March 11th 196 00:08:24,590 --> 00:08:26,331 at about 10 o'clock in the morning 197 00:08:26,331 --> 00:08:28,028 and gave the car keys back with plans 198 00:08:28,028 --> 00:08:30,596 to meet up later on to go grocery shopping. 199 00:08:30,596 --> 00:08:32,337 After leaving Barbara, 200 00:08:32,337 --> 00:08:34,339 Gerry spoke with one of Barbara's roommates, 201 00:08:34,339 --> 00:08:36,384 and then he went to study at the library. 202 00:08:36,384 --> 00:08:37,516 [dramatic music] 203 00:08:37,516 --> 00:08:39,692 Later that day Gerry and Barbara 204 00:08:39,692 --> 00:08:41,607 had plans to grab some food 205 00:08:41,607 --> 00:08:42,826 but she didn't show up. 206 00:08:42,826 --> 00:08:44,741 As Gerry left the BYU campus, 207 00:08:44,741 --> 00:08:46,612 he walked past Barbara's house 208 00:08:46,612 --> 00:08:48,266 and he didn't see Barbara's car, 209 00:08:48,266 --> 00:08:50,834 so he continued towards his home. 210 00:08:50,834 --> 00:08:54,272 And as he was passing the Park Plaza Apartments, 211 00:08:54,272 --> 00:08:56,840 and sees Barbara's car sitting in the parking lot, 212 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,190 which was someplace that Barbara 213 00:08:59,190 --> 00:09:00,887 would have never parked her car. 214 00:09:01,758 --> 00:09:03,629 He said that was kind of odd 215 00:09:03,629 --> 00:09:04,761 why it would've been parked 216 00:09:04,761 --> 00:09:06,589 where it's not normally parked. 217 00:09:07,415 --> 00:09:09,287 Inside the car he finds 218 00:09:09,287 --> 00:09:12,551 this note that was left by Barbara. 219 00:09:12,551 --> 00:09:14,727 It was addressed to all the roommates. 220 00:09:14,727 --> 00:09:17,643 That basically said that she had found her people. 221 00:09:17,643 --> 00:09:20,646 That she was leaving to go be with her people. 222 00:09:20,646 --> 00:09:22,822 I think that he looked at it as a suicide note, 223 00:09:22,822 --> 00:09:25,651 and so he took the note over to the roommates, 224 00:09:25,651 --> 00:09:27,784 and that raised enough suspicion 225 00:09:27,784 --> 00:09:30,308 to report her as a missing person. 226 00:09:30,308 --> 00:09:31,657 [Narrator] In order to clear Gerry 227 00:09:31,657 --> 00:09:33,398 as a person of interest, 228 00:09:33,398 --> 00:09:35,922 detectives drill deeper into his timeline. 229 00:09:35,922 --> 00:09:40,579 Gerry gave his timeline up until that evening, 230 00:09:40,579 --> 00:09:42,668 and essentially once he found that letter, 231 00:09:42,668 --> 00:09:44,191 he came and talked to us. 232 00:09:44,191 --> 00:09:45,976 Gerry reported her missing. 233 00:09:45,976 --> 00:09:47,455 He found the note. 234 00:09:47,455 --> 00:09:49,501 He was cooperating with detectives, 235 00:09:49,501 --> 00:09:51,068 so he really wasn't somebody 236 00:09:51,068 --> 00:09:52,722 that fit as a suspect. 237 00:09:52,722 --> 00:09:54,593 [Narrator] When detectives ask Gerry 238 00:09:54,593 --> 00:09:57,596 about any conflicts Barbara may have had, 239 00:09:57,596 --> 00:10:00,730 he mentions one unexpected source. 240 00:10:00,730 --> 00:10:02,601 Gerry tells investigators that 241 00:10:02,601 --> 00:10:04,995 the roommates and Barbara kind of have 242 00:10:06,605 --> 00:10:09,173 an off-again on-again relationship. 243 00:10:09,173 --> 00:10:12,132 Barbara Jean Rocky lived with seven other women 244 00:10:12,132 --> 00:10:13,830 from Mormon families. 245 00:10:13,830 --> 00:10:16,833 Barbara sometimes liked to do things for shock value, 246 00:10:16,833 --> 00:10:19,705 and this is not a place people go to 247 00:10:19,705 --> 00:10:21,446 to shock others. 248 00:10:21,446 --> 00:10:23,622 There was a little bit of intimidation 249 00:10:23,622 --> 00:10:25,755 between Barbara and some of the girls. 250 00:10:25,755 --> 00:10:28,105 Gerry said things had gotten so bad, 251 00:10:28,105 --> 00:10:30,716 that he had tried to find Barbara 252 00:10:30,716 --> 00:10:32,370 another place to live. 253 00:10:32,370 --> 00:10:34,851 [Narrator] Was it possible one of Barbara's roommates 254 00:10:34,851 --> 00:10:37,418 could be the culprit behind her death? 255 00:10:37,418 --> 00:10:39,682 Just how bad was this relationship 256 00:10:39,682 --> 00:10:42,467 that Barbara Jean Rocky had with her roommates, 257 00:10:42,467 --> 00:10:45,035 and what could it cause anyone to do? 258 00:10:45,035 --> 00:10:46,732 [foreboding music] 259 00:10:46,732 --> 00:10:47,820 [Narrator] Coming up 260 00:10:47,820 --> 00:10:50,736 detectives uncover dark secrets. 261 00:10:50,736 --> 00:10:52,346 The majority of the roommates 262 00:10:52,346 --> 00:10:54,697 were very religious. 263 00:10:54,697 --> 00:10:57,482 He had a relationship with Barbara Jean 264 00:10:57,482 --> 00:11:01,181 and had been dating one of her roommates. 265 00:11:01,181 --> 00:11:03,923 A love triangle could easily turn deadly 266 00:11:03,923 --> 00:11:05,795 when there's jealousy involved. 267 00:11:05,795 --> 00:11:07,579 He had pulled a dagger on her 268 00:11:07,579 --> 00:11:09,320 and said that he was going to stab her. 269 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,497 [Narrator] And links to a terrifying killer. 270 00:11:12,497 --> 00:11:14,891 She described him as a great warlock 271 00:11:14,891 --> 00:11:17,632 and maybe even a devil worshiper. 272 00:11:17,632 --> 00:11:19,896 There's women all over the American West 273 00:11:19,896 --> 00:11:23,203 that are going missing and being discovered dead. 274 00:11:23,203 --> 00:11:26,685 This guy turns out to be probably the most famous 275 00:11:26,685 --> 00:11:29,340 notorious serial killer of all time. 276 00:11:29,340 --> 00:11:32,691 [Narrator] Until the evidence reveals the horrific truth. 277 00:11:32,691 --> 00:11:34,998 He was not who we suspected, 278 00:11:34,998 --> 00:11:37,435 and so to learn that he was responsible 279 00:11:37,435 --> 00:11:40,481 for killing her was very surprising. 280 00:11:41,787 --> 00:11:44,747 [dramatic music] 281 00:11:49,577 --> 00:11:52,667 [Narrator] After 22-year-old college student Barbara Rocky 282 00:11:52,667 --> 00:11:55,670 is found shot dead, police have discovered 283 00:11:55,670 --> 00:11:57,672 she had clashed with her roommates 284 00:11:57,672 --> 00:11:59,979 and bring them in separately for questioning. 285 00:11:59,979 --> 00:12:02,721 The roommates had only known her since January, 286 00:12:02,721 --> 00:12:05,942 when Barbara moved into the house, and going to 287 00:12:05,942 --> 00:12:09,075 a predominantly Mormon school, 288 00:12:09,075 --> 00:12:10,816 Barbara really didn't fit that mold. 289 00:12:10,816 --> 00:12:12,513 She was from California, 290 00:12:12,513 --> 00:12:14,689 and she was more of a free spirit. 291 00:12:14,689 --> 00:12:17,518 She was somebody who was very opinionated 292 00:12:17,518 --> 00:12:19,520 and was not a conformist. 293 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:20,826 Barbara Jean Rocky's roommates 294 00:12:20,826 --> 00:12:22,697 say that she was kind of dating around, 295 00:12:22,697 --> 00:12:24,917 not necessarily saving herself for marriage, 296 00:12:24,917 --> 00:12:27,572 and it was generally not accepted. 297 00:12:27,572 --> 00:12:29,922 The roommates were very religious. 298 00:12:29,922 --> 00:12:31,968 They attended church faithfully. 299 00:12:31,968 --> 00:12:34,057 I think Barbara would probably experiment 300 00:12:34,057 --> 00:12:38,452 with different religions just to expand her knowledge 301 00:12:38,452 --> 00:12:42,805 and at times would do things that would maybe scare them. 302 00:12:42,805 --> 00:12:44,545 Barbara Jean's roommates 303 00:12:44,545 --> 00:12:46,852 said she was kind of into witchcraft, 304 00:12:46,852 --> 00:12:52,075 so she was attracted to that lifestyle a little bit. 305 00:12:53,772 --> 00:12:55,078 They didn't want to be a part of Barbara's life, 306 00:12:55,078 --> 00:12:57,123 and so they would keep her at arm's length. 307 00:12:57,123 --> 00:12:59,038 [Narrator] Had one of Barbara's roommates 308 00:12:59,038 --> 00:13:02,563 lashed out and done something unthinkable? 309 00:13:02,563 --> 00:13:07,830 Being more of the typical LDS BYU student, 310 00:13:09,005 --> 00:13:10,658 you just wouldn't think that somebody like that 311 00:13:10,658 --> 00:13:12,008 could kill somebody, 312 00:13:12,008 --> 00:13:14,662 but until you do the leather work on it, 313 00:13:14,662 --> 00:13:16,055 you can't clear them. 314 00:13:16,055 --> 00:13:17,361 [Narrator] Detectives work 315 00:13:17,361 --> 00:13:19,885 to verify the roommates' alibis. 316 00:13:20,886 --> 00:13:22,366 Once the investigators corroborated 317 00:13:22,366 --> 00:13:24,107 all the stories and looked at the timelines, 318 00:13:24,107 --> 00:13:26,892 they were able to clear the roommates as not being 319 00:13:26,892 --> 00:13:28,981 somebody that had killed Barbara. 320 00:13:28,981 --> 00:13:30,853 [Narrator] As detectives continue 321 00:13:30,853 --> 00:13:32,898 asking the roommates about Barbara, 322 00:13:32,898 --> 00:13:35,988 they learn some startling new information. 323 00:13:35,988 --> 00:13:38,817 Investigators found out through the interviews 324 00:13:38,817 --> 00:13:40,166 of the roommates that Barbara 325 00:13:40,166 --> 00:13:43,909 would carry a 357 revolver pistol. 326 00:13:43,909 --> 00:13:45,911 Some of the roommates described Barbara 327 00:13:45,911 --> 00:13:48,522 as being maybe a little bit paranoid 328 00:13:48,522 --> 00:13:52,613 where she would think people were following her. 329 00:13:52,613 --> 00:13:55,094 In 1974, people weren't just walking 330 00:13:55,094 --> 00:13:57,618 around with guns the way they do today, 331 00:13:57,618 --> 00:13:59,620 so if a 21-year-old college kid 332 00:13:59,620 --> 00:14:02,797 was walking around with a 357 magnum pistol, 333 00:14:02,797 --> 00:14:04,625 who is she afraid of? 334 00:14:04,625 --> 00:14:06,671 [Narrator] Detectives get more surprises 335 00:14:06,671 --> 00:14:08,934 when they search Barbara's vehicle. 336 00:14:08,934 --> 00:14:11,632 When the investigators looked in the rear of the vehicle, 337 00:14:11,632 --> 00:14:13,896 they found ammunition and targets, 338 00:14:13,896 --> 00:14:15,419 things that you wouldn't expect 339 00:14:15,419 --> 00:14:19,075 in a female BYU student's car. 340 00:14:19,902 --> 00:14:20,946 Did Barbara feel like 341 00:14:20,946 --> 00:14:22,034 she needed to have a gun? 342 00:14:22,034 --> 00:14:23,949 Did she practice with the gun? 343 00:14:23,949 --> 00:14:25,908 Was somebody after her? 344 00:14:25,908 --> 00:14:29,215 We weren't sure what all of that meant at that point. 345 00:14:29,215 --> 00:14:30,086 [dramatic music] 346 00:14:30,086 --> 00:14:31,435 The car was fingerprinted, 347 00:14:31,435 --> 00:14:32,827 but there was just nothing 348 00:14:32,827 --> 00:14:34,829 of good forensic value 349 00:14:34,829 --> 00:14:37,789 that we could come up with at that time. 350 00:14:37,789 --> 00:14:39,834 [Narrator] With more questions than answers, 351 00:14:39,834 --> 00:14:41,749 detectives turn their attention 352 00:14:41,749 --> 00:14:43,969 back to the note Barbara's friend Gerry 353 00:14:43,969 --> 00:14:46,885 had found earlier in Barbara's car. 354 00:14:48,017 --> 00:14:49,888 You found a victim shot multiple times, 355 00:14:49,888 --> 00:14:53,239 and then someone else finds this note in her car 356 00:14:53,239 --> 00:14:56,025 that says she's leaving to be with her people, 357 00:14:56,025 --> 00:14:58,157 and what's the purpose of this? 358 00:14:58,157 --> 00:14:59,985 The investigators were wondering 359 00:14:59,985 --> 00:15:02,205 if the note was even authored by Barbara, 360 00:15:02,205 --> 00:15:04,250 so they do some handwriting analysis on it 361 00:15:04,250 --> 00:15:06,513 and send it out to have that done. 362 00:15:06,513 --> 00:15:08,951 [Narrator] While detectives await results, 363 00:15:08,951 --> 00:15:11,170 the autopsy report comes in. 364 00:15:11,170 --> 00:15:12,737 At that time they came up with 365 00:15:12,737 --> 00:15:15,609 six bullet hole entrance wounds. 366 00:15:15,609 --> 00:15:17,394 The shot in the arm was probably 367 00:15:17,394 --> 00:15:20,310 the bullet that killed her 368 00:15:20,310 --> 00:15:22,181 because it went back into the chest 369 00:15:22,181 --> 00:15:23,922 and hit some vital organs, 370 00:15:23,922 --> 00:15:26,881 and the final wounds were 371 00:15:26,881 --> 00:15:29,710 when Barbara was turned over and on her stomach 372 00:15:29,710 --> 00:15:31,930 and the entrance wounds were in her back. 373 00:15:31,930 --> 00:15:34,193 Being shot in the back is a good indicator that 374 00:15:34,193 --> 00:15:37,066 the person is known by the assailant. 375 00:15:37,066 --> 00:15:39,372 He doesn't want to see their face 376 00:15:39,372 --> 00:15:40,330 when he kills them. 377 00:15:40,330 --> 00:15:42,201 [dramatic music] 378 00:15:42,201 --> 00:15:46,162 At the autopsy the medical examiner took swabs 379 00:15:46,162 --> 00:15:49,513 of both her rectum and her vaginal area 380 00:15:49,513 --> 00:15:51,036 to try to preserve any evidence 381 00:15:51,036 --> 00:15:52,168 that might be there. 382 00:15:52,168 --> 00:15:55,040 The autopsy report indicated 383 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:56,781 no definitive evidence 384 00:15:56,781 --> 00:15:58,043 that she had been sexually assaulted. 385 00:15:59,479 --> 00:16:01,786 [Narrator] With the autopsy offering no new leads, 386 00:16:01,786 --> 00:16:03,744 investigators turn their focus 387 00:16:03,744 --> 00:16:05,746 to any romantic relationships 388 00:16:05,746 --> 00:16:07,922 Barbara may have had. 389 00:16:07,922 --> 00:16:09,620 They were talking with the roommates 390 00:16:09,620 --> 00:16:13,537 more about other men that may be in Barbara's life, 391 00:16:13,537 --> 00:16:17,889 and they came up with a guy named Richard. 392 00:16:17,889 --> 00:16:18,933 They knew that Barbara was 393 00:16:18,933 --> 00:16:20,935 very much infatuated with him. 394 00:16:20,935 --> 00:16:22,763 She spoke about him all the time, 395 00:16:22,763 --> 00:16:25,201 even called him her boyfriend. 396 00:16:25,201 --> 00:16:27,768 [Narrator] As police focus on Richard 397 00:16:27,768 --> 00:16:30,075 they make a disturbing discovery. 398 00:16:30,902 --> 00:16:32,164 They had asked if Richard 399 00:16:32,164 --> 00:16:34,862 had ever been violent towards Barbara, 400 00:16:34,862 --> 00:16:37,256 and Barbara had relayed one story that 401 00:16:37,256 --> 00:16:39,084 Richard had pulled a dagger on her 402 00:16:39,084 --> 00:16:41,173 and said he was going to stab her. 403 00:16:41,173 --> 00:16:43,567 [Narrator] This was not the only alarming story 404 00:16:43,567 --> 00:16:46,831 Barbara's roommates relayed to detectives. 405 00:16:46,831 --> 00:16:49,964 About a month before Barbara was murdered, 406 00:16:49,964 --> 00:16:51,879 she reported that her gun was missing, 407 00:16:51,879 --> 00:16:53,968 and that raises all kinds of concerns. 408 00:16:53,968 --> 00:16:56,101 She reported it to campus police, 409 00:16:56,101 --> 00:16:58,103 and to my knowledge, 410 00:16:58,103 --> 00:16:59,887 she never got that gun back. 411 00:16:59,887 --> 00:17:03,848 A 357 revolver would have fit 412 00:17:03,848 --> 00:17:06,111 with the potential murder weapon 413 00:17:06,111 --> 00:17:07,895 that killed Barbara. 414 00:17:07,895 --> 00:17:08,983 [gunfire blasting] She had expressed 415 00:17:08,983 --> 00:17:10,985 concern to her roommates that 416 00:17:10,985 --> 00:17:12,509 the person that had taken the gun 417 00:17:12,509 --> 00:17:14,293 may use that gun on her, 418 00:17:14,293 --> 00:17:16,295 and the roommates just kind of dismissed it. 419 00:17:16,295 --> 00:17:19,211 But now that Barbara was found shot to death, 420 00:17:19,211 --> 00:17:22,780 the roommates were concerned for themselves as well. 421 00:17:22,780 --> 00:17:24,999 Having that information, 422 00:17:24,999 --> 00:17:26,827 the investigators really 423 00:17:26,827 --> 00:17:28,655 wanted to find out who Richard was. 424 00:17:28,655 --> 00:17:33,007 At this point all we have is Richard's first name. 425 00:17:33,007 --> 00:17:36,098 He's willing to maybe take a dagger and stab her. 426 00:17:36,098 --> 00:17:38,056 [suspenseful music] 427 00:17:38,056 --> 00:17:40,493 We strongly felt that he could have been responsible 428 00:17:40,493 --> 00:17:41,407 for her murder. 429 00:17:43,061 --> 00:17:46,064 [dramatic music] 430 00:17:50,242 --> 00:17:51,330 [Narrator] Three days have passed 431 00:17:51,330 --> 00:17:52,940 since student Barbara Rocky 432 00:17:52,940 --> 00:17:54,899 was discovered shot dead 433 00:17:54,899 --> 00:17:56,944 in Big Cottonwood Canyon, 434 00:17:56,944 --> 00:17:59,164 and police are hunting a man named Richard, 435 00:17:59,164 --> 00:18:02,036 who they believe is her boyfriend. 436 00:18:02,036 --> 00:18:04,038 This could be the person that killed Barbara. 437 00:18:04,038 --> 00:18:07,433 But all we have is Richard's first name, 438 00:18:07,433 --> 00:18:11,176 and so we're kind of running into a dead end. 439 00:18:11,176 --> 00:18:12,960 [Narrator] With no way to identify 440 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,093 their potential prime suspect, 441 00:18:15,093 --> 00:18:17,313 detectives catch a lucky break. 442 00:18:17,313 --> 00:18:20,359 Out of the blue a guy named Richard Finder 443 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,666 calls into our department 444 00:18:22,666 --> 00:18:26,974 and tells us that he knew Barbara Rocky. 445 00:18:26,974 --> 00:18:29,194 Richard Finder initiated contact 446 00:18:29,194 --> 00:18:32,154 offering his services to basically 447 00:18:32,154 --> 00:18:35,026 try to help them solve this case. 448 00:18:35,026 --> 00:18:37,681 First question we had was is this the Richard 449 00:18:37,681 --> 00:18:38,943 that we've been looking for? 450 00:18:38,943 --> 00:18:40,118 [dramatic music] 451 00:18:40,118 --> 00:18:41,380 [Narrator] As investigators 452 00:18:41,380 --> 00:18:43,252 prepare to meet with Richard Finder, 453 00:18:43,252 --> 00:18:46,124 they learn everything they can about him. 454 00:18:46,124 --> 00:18:48,431 We find out that he's in his 30s, 455 00:18:48,431 --> 00:18:51,129 and he's a self-proclaimed psychic. 456 00:18:51,129 --> 00:18:52,261 He lived in California. 457 00:18:52,261 --> 00:18:54,219 Barbara was from California, 458 00:18:54,219 --> 00:18:57,266 so that was one of the connections that they had. 459 00:18:57,266 --> 00:19:01,400 We also found out that a 357 pistol 460 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,228 was registered to him, 461 00:19:03,228 --> 00:19:06,449 which is obviously the same caliber that we're looking for. 462 00:19:06,449 --> 00:19:09,495 [Narrator] Richard Finder arrives at the sheriff's office 463 00:19:09,495 --> 00:19:13,282 and detectives begin by asking him about his relationship 464 00:19:13,282 --> 00:19:15,501 with the 22-year-old college student. 465 00:19:15,501 --> 00:19:17,373 Barbara heard Richard Finder 466 00:19:17,373 --> 00:19:19,984 on the radio talking about the occult. 467 00:19:19,984 --> 00:19:23,292 Barbara had called into the radio station. 468 00:19:23,292 --> 00:19:25,468 They ended up exchanging phone numbers. 469 00:19:25,468 --> 00:19:29,428 Barbara had gone up to see him at his hotel, 470 00:19:29,428 --> 00:19:31,474 and I think Barbara at one point, 471 00:19:31,474 --> 00:19:34,912 even felt that Richard was her boyfriend. 472 00:19:34,912 --> 00:19:38,394 Richard claimed that it was just a spiritual relationship. 473 00:19:38,394 --> 00:19:43,660 That he looked at Barbara not in a physical way. 474 00:19:45,139 --> 00:19:46,140 [Narrator] Under further questioning, 475 00:19:46,140 --> 00:19:47,446 Richard mentions something 476 00:19:47,446 --> 00:19:49,318 that gets the detectives' attention. 477 00:19:49,318 --> 00:19:51,320 The place that he was staying at 478 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:55,324 was very close to the mouth of the canyon 479 00:19:55,324 --> 00:19:57,500 where it was that Barbara Jean was found. 480 00:19:57,500 --> 00:19:58,631 [dramatic music] 481 00:19:58,631 --> 00:20:00,285 [Narrator] Detectives cut to the chase 482 00:20:00,285 --> 00:20:03,070 and ask Richard where he was on March 11th, 483 00:20:03,070 --> 00:20:05,203 the day that Barbara was killed. 484 00:20:05,203 --> 00:20:07,510 He tells them that he was in Salt Lake 485 00:20:07,510 --> 00:20:09,425 at the time of the murder. 486 00:20:09,425 --> 00:20:11,209 He said that he had gotten up and had some breakfast, 487 00:20:11,209 --> 00:20:12,993 and then he went over and helped a friend 488 00:20:12,993 --> 00:20:16,388 do some construction work on a house all day long, 489 00:20:16,388 --> 00:20:17,476 and then he went back home 490 00:20:17,476 --> 00:20:20,349 and went to sleep on the couch. 491 00:20:20,349 --> 00:20:22,133 [Narrator] Detectives set to work 492 00:20:22,133 --> 00:20:24,266 checking out Richard's alibi. 493 00:20:25,354 --> 00:20:27,007 The guy that Richard Finder was staying with, 494 00:20:27,007 --> 00:20:31,229 did confirm that Richard was with him in the evening. 495 00:20:31,229 --> 00:20:32,883 But he could not confirm the times 496 00:20:32,883 --> 00:20:35,320 that Richard told us about during the daytime. 497 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,322 [Narrator] With holes in Richard's alibi, 498 00:20:37,322 --> 00:20:39,498 detectives dig deeper into his claims 499 00:20:39,498 --> 00:20:42,240 about his relationship with Barbara. 500 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,374 Our investigators talked to Barbara's therapist, 501 00:20:45,374 --> 00:20:48,159 and she just really got the impression 502 00:20:48,159 --> 00:20:50,553 that Barbara was in love with Richard. 503 00:20:50,553 --> 00:20:53,077 [Narrator] The therapist reveals another way 504 00:20:53,077 --> 00:20:55,209 the relationship was less innocent 505 00:20:55,209 --> 00:20:56,776 than Richard made it seem. 506 00:20:58,343 --> 00:21:00,389 Barbara described Richard as a great warlock 507 00:21:00,389 --> 00:21:02,869 and maybe even a devil worshiper. 508 00:21:02,869 --> 00:21:04,523 [tense dramatic music] 509 00:21:04,523 --> 00:21:07,613 I think that the satanic and the witchcraft, 510 00:21:07,613 --> 00:21:09,354 it's not too far-fetched to think, 511 00:21:09,354 --> 00:21:11,487 "Okay, somebody took her up there into the woods. 512 00:21:11,487 --> 00:21:14,098 "This was potentially a sacrifice." 513 00:21:14,098 --> 00:21:15,752 [Narrator] When police confront Richard 514 00:21:15,752 --> 00:21:17,275 with these allegations, 515 00:21:17,275 --> 00:21:19,625 his response is even more alarming. 516 00:21:19,625 --> 00:21:21,932 He's telling us that he's having these dreams, 517 00:21:21,932 --> 00:21:25,370 and that she was shot in the back in a triangular pattern, 518 00:21:25,370 --> 00:21:30,636 and that that's a sign of a possible Satan killing 519 00:21:31,420 --> 00:21:33,073 or devil worship. 520 00:21:33,073 --> 00:21:35,685 Richard also told us that he had a vision 521 00:21:35,685 --> 00:21:38,601 that the murder weapon was also thrown into water. 522 00:21:38,601 --> 00:21:41,386 How would he know that we didn't have the murder weapon? 523 00:21:41,386 --> 00:21:44,433 So that really raised a question to us. 524 00:21:44,433 --> 00:21:47,174 We're wondering is this guy confessing to us? 525 00:21:47,174 --> 00:21:49,394 Is he telling us about our crime scene? 526 00:21:49,394 --> 00:21:50,961 He has all of this knowledge. 527 00:21:50,961 --> 00:21:53,964 Is this guy the one that killed Barbara that day? 528 00:21:53,964 --> 00:21:56,401 When you start putting all of these things together, 529 00:21:56,401 --> 00:21:59,361 it made Richard Finder a pretty good suspect. 530 00:21:59,361 --> 00:22:01,493 [Narrator] Despite the circumstantial evidence 531 00:22:01,493 --> 00:22:03,321 stacking up against him, 532 00:22:03,321 --> 00:22:05,976 detectives need something more concrete. 533 00:22:05,976 --> 00:22:08,674 So we collect all of his weapons for ballistic tests 534 00:22:08,674 --> 00:22:12,461 with the projectiles that we located from Barbara's body. 535 00:22:12,461 --> 00:22:15,594 We received the results from the ballistics tests, 536 00:22:15,594 --> 00:22:16,943 and they were not a match, 537 00:22:16,943 --> 00:22:18,336 [dramatic music] 538 00:22:18,336 --> 00:22:19,598 and that pretty much blew up 539 00:22:19,598 --> 00:22:21,861 most of our case with Richard Finder. 540 00:22:23,646 --> 00:22:25,430 [Narrator] Detectives pin their hopes 541 00:22:25,430 --> 00:22:28,172 on the results of the handwriting analysis 542 00:22:28,172 --> 00:22:30,609 on the note found in Barbara's vehicle. 543 00:22:31,697 --> 00:22:34,483 Maybe she wrote the note under duress. 544 00:22:34,483 --> 00:22:36,615 Maybe she was forced to write the note. 545 00:22:36,615 --> 00:22:38,356 It could be a significant clue, 546 00:22:38,356 --> 00:22:39,618 especially if it's determined that 547 00:22:39,618 --> 00:22:41,577 our victim didn't author the note. 548 00:22:41,577 --> 00:22:44,493 It's like someone writing a suicide note for someone else. 549 00:22:44,493 --> 00:22:46,364 The handwriting analysis came back, 550 00:22:46,364 --> 00:22:48,192 and it showed that Barbara was the one 551 00:22:48,192 --> 00:22:49,411 that had written the note. 552 00:22:49,411 --> 00:22:50,716 The letter itself seemed 553 00:22:50,716 --> 00:22:52,631 to be a valid letter to her friends, 554 00:22:52,631 --> 00:22:55,504 and several people said that's Barbara's handwriting. 555 00:22:55,504 --> 00:22:58,463 The investigators concluded that maybe 556 00:22:58,463 --> 00:23:00,378 Barbara was thinking about moving home, 557 00:23:00,378 --> 00:23:02,859 and she was just explaining that in the note. 558 00:23:04,513 --> 00:23:07,690 At this point we're starting to run out of leads. 559 00:23:07,690 --> 00:23:10,040 [Narrator] As the investigation stalls, 560 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,609 Barbara's family is rocked by another tragedy. 561 00:23:15,088 --> 00:23:18,527 My dad would call the police practically every day, 562 00:23:18,527 --> 00:23:21,181 when nothing was coming to fruition, 563 00:23:22,444 --> 00:23:26,273 and he died like within a year after she died. 564 00:23:26,273 --> 00:23:27,492 It killed my father, 565 00:23:27,492 --> 00:23:29,538 [somber music] 566 00:23:29,538 --> 00:23:33,803 and we had so many key relatives die 567 00:23:35,500 --> 00:23:37,937 still wanting to know what happened to Barbara. 568 00:23:39,591 --> 00:23:42,376 [Narrator] Detectives never give up on the case, 569 00:23:42,376 --> 00:23:45,249 and a year later in 1975, 570 00:23:45,249 --> 00:23:48,644 they notice a disturbing pattern of crimes. 571 00:23:48,644 --> 00:23:51,298 There's women all over the American West 572 00:23:51,298 --> 00:23:52,474 that are going missing 573 00:23:52,474 --> 00:23:54,476 and being discovered dead. 574 00:23:54,476 --> 00:23:57,566 College coeds with dark hair were found murdered, 575 00:23:57,566 --> 00:23:59,698 and the serial killer was certainly 576 00:23:59,698 --> 00:24:02,266 the big topic of conversation. 577 00:24:02,266 --> 00:24:03,572 [Narrator] A surprising arrest 578 00:24:03,572 --> 00:24:06,531 changes the whole course of the investigation. 579 00:24:06,531 --> 00:24:10,274 In 1975, a Utah state trooper 580 00:24:10,274 --> 00:24:12,755 makes an arrest west of Salt Lake city. 581 00:24:12,755 --> 00:24:16,672 The suspect was arrested for a kidnapping case 582 00:24:16,672 --> 00:24:18,717 and some of the evidence in the vehicle 583 00:24:18,717 --> 00:24:20,589 definitely could have had something to do 584 00:24:20,589 --> 00:24:22,547 with Barbara's murder as well. 585 00:24:22,547 --> 00:24:25,463 The driver's name is Ted Bundy. 586 00:24:25,463 --> 00:24:29,293 This guy turns out to be probably the most famous 587 00:24:29,293 --> 00:24:32,296 notorious serial killer of all time. 588 00:24:32,296 --> 00:24:33,993 Is he the one that killed Barbara? 589 00:24:34,820 --> 00:24:37,693 [dramatic music] 590 00:24:42,088 --> 00:24:43,655 [Narrator] A year and a half 591 00:24:43,655 --> 00:24:45,614 after the murder of Barbara Rocky, 592 00:24:45,614 --> 00:24:48,573 the investigation is sparked back into life 593 00:24:48,573 --> 00:24:52,403 by the arrest of notorious serial killer Ted Bundy. 594 00:24:52,403 --> 00:24:54,144 [dramatic music] 595 00:24:54,144 --> 00:24:56,538 More and more that police start investigating Ted Bundy, 596 00:24:56,538 --> 00:24:58,583 the more connections they find to missing 597 00:24:58,583 --> 00:25:00,759 and murdered women all over the country. 598 00:25:00,759 --> 00:25:05,547 In 1974, Ted Bundy was also in the Utah area, 599 00:25:05,547 --> 00:25:07,723 going to school at the University of Utah. 600 00:25:07,723 --> 00:25:09,768 Barbara Jean fit Ted Bundy's profile. 601 00:25:09,768 --> 00:25:11,422 She was a college student. 602 00:25:11,422 --> 00:25:13,076 She was a brunette, 603 00:25:13,076 --> 00:25:16,383 and she was the age that Ted Bundy seemed to target. 604 00:25:16,383 --> 00:25:17,559 Ted Bundy had a reputation 605 00:25:17,559 --> 00:25:18,821 of being a very charming man. 606 00:25:18,821 --> 00:25:20,387 You know, he was a good looking guy 607 00:25:20,387 --> 00:25:22,694 and was kind of a smooth talker. 608 00:25:22,694 --> 00:25:24,653 Ted bundy would act like he was hurt 609 00:25:24,653 --> 00:25:28,657 and ask for some assistance from a female, 610 00:25:28,657 --> 00:25:30,441 and that would have fit right 611 00:25:30,441 --> 00:25:31,834 with the personality of Barbara. 612 00:25:31,834 --> 00:25:34,184 She would have helped Ted Bundy 613 00:25:34,184 --> 00:25:36,708 if he had approached her. 614 00:25:36,708 --> 00:25:37,796 [Narrator] With Barbara fitting 615 00:25:37,796 --> 00:25:40,320 the profile of bundy's victims, 616 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,888 detectives connect with the FBI. 617 00:25:42,888 --> 00:25:46,675 The investigators were able to get a hold of a timeline 618 00:25:47,763 --> 00:25:49,634 that the FBI had prepared to find out 619 00:25:49,634 --> 00:25:53,377 what his whereabouts were on March 11, 1974. 620 00:25:54,813 --> 00:25:57,250 When the investigators looked at Ted Bundy's timeline, 621 00:25:57,250 --> 00:26:00,863 they found that he had an ironclad alibi for that day 622 00:26:00,863 --> 00:26:04,127 because he was in Washington committing another murder. 623 00:26:06,433 --> 00:26:07,826 [Narrator] With Bundy cleared, 624 00:26:07,826 --> 00:26:10,220 the Barbara Rocky investigation 625 00:26:10,220 --> 00:26:11,700 grinds to a halt. 626 00:26:11,700 --> 00:26:13,005 The investigators had done 627 00:26:13,005 --> 00:26:15,573 everything forensically that they could. 628 00:26:15,573 --> 00:26:17,880 They had done all the interviews that they could. 629 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,534 They had looked at all the suspects that they could, 630 00:26:20,534 --> 00:26:22,754 and the case just went cold. 631 00:26:22,754 --> 00:26:25,409 Once the case was cold, 632 00:26:25,409 --> 00:26:28,586 we pretty much accepted that 633 00:26:28,586 --> 00:26:30,588 it was not going to be solved. 634 00:26:30,588 --> 00:26:31,807 When a case goes cold, 635 00:26:31,807 --> 00:26:33,722 it definitely affects the family, 636 00:26:33,722 --> 00:26:35,506 every bit as much, if not more, 637 00:26:35,506 --> 00:26:36,855 than the investigator. 638 00:26:36,855 --> 00:26:39,684 They just want someone to be held accountable 639 00:26:39,684 --> 00:26:42,339 for their daughter's death. 640 00:26:42,339 --> 00:26:45,647 [Narrator] The case lies unsolved for 30 years 641 00:26:45,647 --> 00:26:48,780 while Barbara's family yearns for answers. 642 00:26:48,780 --> 00:26:51,609 The hope and the drive 643 00:26:51,609 --> 00:26:53,742 to crack this case someday 644 00:26:54,873 --> 00:26:58,703 was powered by losing so many family members 645 00:26:58,703 --> 00:27:01,488 that were enraged and wanted justice. 646 00:27:01,488 --> 00:27:05,667 So we had nothing to lose by trying. 647 00:27:05,667 --> 00:27:07,494 [Narrator] In 2005, 648 00:27:07,494 --> 00:27:08,670 Barbara's loved ones 649 00:27:08,670 --> 00:27:11,803 make one last push for justice. 650 00:27:11,803 --> 00:27:13,544 I asked mom, I said, 651 00:27:13,544 --> 00:27:14,763 "Do you want me to try to open this," 652 00:27:16,286 --> 00:27:19,681 and she said, "Yes, because I need to know before I die." 653 00:27:19,681 --> 00:27:22,292 I was a fairly new homicide detective, 654 00:27:22,292 --> 00:27:24,294 and my phone rang, 655 00:27:24,294 --> 00:27:27,558 and it was one of the family members saying, 656 00:27:27,558 --> 00:27:30,692 "Hey, my sister was killed back in 1974. 657 00:27:30,692 --> 00:27:31,997 "Our mom's getting up in years, 658 00:27:31,997 --> 00:27:34,304 "and she'd really like to know 659 00:27:34,304 --> 00:27:36,045 "who killed her daughter." 660 00:27:36,045 --> 00:27:38,656 The family would expect us to just 661 00:27:38,656 --> 00:27:40,832 do what needs to be done to solve their case, 662 00:27:40,832 --> 00:27:45,489 and you can't put a price tag on this level of justice. 663 00:27:45,489 --> 00:27:48,535 [Narrator] Digging into the 30-year-old case files, 664 00:27:48,535 --> 00:27:50,015 detectives' attention is drawn 665 00:27:50,015 --> 00:27:52,714 to one suspect in particular, 666 00:27:52,714 --> 00:27:56,065 the self-proclaimed psychic, Richard Finder. 667 00:27:57,327 --> 00:28:01,374 I was not convinced that law enforcement 668 00:28:01,374 --> 00:28:06,815 had closed the door all the way on Richard Finder. 669 00:28:07,903 --> 00:28:09,731 I wanted to look into Richard further, 670 00:28:10,862 --> 00:28:14,039 because the timeline to me wasn't rock solid, 671 00:28:14,039 --> 00:28:15,737 and I wanted to try to look more 672 00:28:15,737 --> 00:28:17,956 into the forensic end of it. 673 00:28:17,956 --> 00:28:20,567 DNA and the ballistics stuff 674 00:28:20,567 --> 00:28:24,920 has come a long way since 1974. 675 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,965 As I'm looking through each piece of evidence, 676 00:28:26,965 --> 00:28:29,141 I'm trying to figure out if that would have 677 00:28:29,141 --> 00:28:33,406 any forensic benefit to having tested. 678 00:28:33,406 --> 00:28:35,800 [Narrator] While evidence from the original crime scene 679 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,541 is sent to the crime lab, 680 00:28:37,541 --> 00:28:41,675 investigators dig deeper into Richard's version of events. 681 00:28:41,675 --> 00:28:44,809 As I started looking at Richard's alibi, 682 00:28:45,984 --> 00:28:47,856 I spoke with some of the same people 683 00:28:47,856 --> 00:28:50,597 that the investigators had spoke with previously. 684 00:28:50,597 --> 00:28:51,903 As we re-investigated 685 00:28:51,903 --> 00:28:53,775 and re-interviewed these people, 686 00:28:53,775 --> 00:28:57,126 information that wasn't known back then was revealed. 687 00:28:57,126 --> 00:29:02,000 What I learned was that Richard had been dating 688 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,916 and seeing a friend of Barbara's, Janelle. 689 00:29:04,916 --> 00:29:08,833 But then Barbara also found that Janelle 690 00:29:08,833 --> 00:29:12,794 was getting closer to Richard Finder than Barbara was, 691 00:29:12,794 --> 00:29:14,056 and there was some animosity 692 00:29:14,056 --> 00:29:15,797 from what I understand regarding that. 693 00:29:15,797 --> 00:29:19,452 I learned that sometime very close 694 00:29:19,452 --> 00:29:23,108 to the murder Richard had left town with Janelle Bock, 695 00:29:23,108 --> 00:29:27,199 and Richard and Janelle became boyfriend and girlfriend. 696 00:29:27,199 --> 00:29:29,811 That was kind of a blow to Barbara. 697 00:29:29,811 --> 00:29:31,900 That really kind of stuck out to me. 698 00:29:31,900 --> 00:29:35,817 Janelle came back to Salt Lake 699 00:29:35,817 --> 00:29:37,644 for three or four days around the time 700 00:29:37,644 --> 00:29:40,647 of the homicide with Richard Finder, 701 00:29:40,647 --> 00:29:42,780 and they were staying at a house 702 00:29:42,780 --> 00:29:45,652 just west of the mouth of the canyon 703 00:29:45,652 --> 00:29:47,393 where Barbara was found. 704 00:29:47,393 --> 00:29:50,135 [Narrator] Had Barbara confronted Richard about Janelle, 705 00:29:50,135 --> 00:29:52,964 only for the encounter to turn fatal? 706 00:29:53,835 --> 00:29:55,837 Because of this relationship 707 00:29:55,837 --> 00:29:57,795 between Janelle and Barbara, 708 00:29:57,795 --> 00:30:01,930 and because Richard Finder supposedly had guns, 709 00:30:01,930 --> 00:30:04,193 and then because of his witchcraft 710 00:30:04,193 --> 00:30:07,849 and the possibility of human sacrifice, 711 00:30:07,849 --> 00:30:09,154 Richard Finder was up there 712 00:30:09,154 --> 00:30:11,113 on the list as a potential suspect. 713 00:30:11,113 --> 00:30:13,593 [Narrator] Investigators try to bring Richard in 714 00:30:13,593 --> 00:30:15,247 for another interview. 715 00:30:15,247 --> 00:30:17,684 Unfortunately, we found that Richard Finder 716 00:30:17,684 --> 00:30:18,860 had passed away. 717 00:30:19,991 --> 00:30:21,906 But really the only avenue I had 718 00:30:21,906 --> 00:30:24,517 was to go talk with Janelle. 719 00:30:24,517 --> 00:30:26,911 [Narrator] Was Janelle the only living person 720 00:30:26,911 --> 00:30:29,522 who knew what really happened to Barbara? 721 00:30:29,522 --> 00:30:33,135 I didn't see any information in the case file 722 00:30:33,135 --> 00:30:34,919 where Janelle Bock had really given 723 00:30:34,919 --> 00:30:38,488 a good interview about Richard Finder, and 724 00:30:38,488 --> 00:30:41,752 so that was the place that I wanted to start. 725 00:30:41,752 --> 00:30:43,101 Barbara was upset that 726 00:30:44,146 --> 00:30:46,017 Janelle had essentially taken Richard Finder, 727 00:30:46,017 --> 00:30:47,149 so when they came back, 728 00:30:47,149 --> 00:30:48,933 there's this potential triangle 729 00:30:48,933 --> 00:30:50,979 and some jealousy. 730 00:30:50,979 --> 00:30:53,242 It placed some suspicion on Janelle. 731 00:30:53,242 --> 00:30:55,113 Any time an investigation reveals 732 00:30:55,113 --> 00:30:57,159 some sort of a love triangle, 733 00:30:57,159 --> 00:30:58,943 that can easily turn deadly 734 00:30:58,943 --> 00:31:00,510 when there's jealousy involved, 735 00:31:00,510 --> 00:31:03,078 and all of a sudden the whole thing shifts 736 00:31:03,078 --> 00:31:05,776 from one guy to the person that's least suspected. 737 00:31:05,776 --> 00:31:08,692 [dramatic music] 738 00:31:14,350 --> 00:31:16,004 [Narrator] Three decades after Barbara Rockyic] 739 00:31:16,004 --> 00:31:18,963 was found murdered in a Utah canyon, 740 00:31:18,963 --> 00:31:20,834 cold case detectives want to speak 741 00:31:20,834 --> 00:31:23,228 to Barbara's former roommate Janelle, 742 00:31:23,228 --> 00:31:25,317 who had been dating Richard Finder, 743 00:31:25,317 --> 00:31:28,842 the psychic Barbara had fallen in love with. 744 00:31:28,842 --> 00:31:30,235 Janelle was looked at because 745 00:31:30,235 --> 00:31:33,847 of this triangle and this dispute, and 746 00:31:33,847 --> 00:31:36,198 Richard Finder was aware 747 00:31:36,198 --> 00:31:38,940 that there was this jealousy. 748 00:31:38,940 --> 00:31:40,202 [Narrator] Detectives want to know 749 00:31:40,202 --> 00:31:42,160 if either Richard or Janelle 750 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,033 had the opportunity to kill Barbara. 751 00:31:45,033 --> 00:31:47,861 They were back in Salt Lake 752 00:31:47,861 --> 00:31:50,168 for three or four days on a ski trip 753 00:31:50,168 --> 00:31:52,083 during the time of Barbara's demise, 754 00:31:52,083 --> 00:31:53,345 but they never went skiing, 755 00:31:53,345 --> 00:31:56,000 and they were staying at a place 756 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,263 that was close to the crime scene 757 00:31:58,263 --> 00:32:00,004 where Barbara was found. 758 00:32:00,004 --> 00:32:01,527 Janelle was able to give me 759 00:32:01,527 --> 00:32:05,053 a timeline that she was with Richard that day, 760 00:32:06,184 --> 00:32:08,012 and the hours that she wasn't coincided 761 00:32:08,012 --> 00:32:11,189 with the times from the initial investigation. 762 00:32:11,189 --> 00:32:12,712 It was confirmed with others 763 00:32:12,712 --> 00:32:14,888 that she was very sick when she came up here. 764 00:32:14,888 --> 00:32:16,368 She didn't even leave the house, 765 00:32:16,368 --> 00:32:19,154 and she was being taken care of by Richard Finder 766 00:32:19,154 --> 00:32:20,894 during the time of the homicide 767 00:32:20,894 --> 00:32:22,548 and was not in that area. 768 00:32:22,548 --> 00:32:26,030 Janelle Bock was able to give me enough information 769 00:32:26,030 --> 00:32:28,337 to make me feel that he definitely 770 00:32:28,337 --> 00:32:30,295 was not the killer of Barbara, 771 00:32:30,295 --> 00:32:33,124 and she was not a suspect any longer. 772 00:32:34,299 --> 00:32:36,562 [Narrator] Undeterred, detectives scour through 773 00:32:36,562 --> 00:32:38,695 the files from 1974 774 00:32:38,695 --> 00:32:41,524 looking for details the original investigators 775 00:32:41,524 --> 00:32:43,265 may have missed. 776 00:32:43,265 --> 00:32:45,484 As I was going through the case file, 777 00:32:47,051 --> 00:32:49,271 Gerry Hicker's name kept popping up. 778 00:32:49,271 --> 00:32:52,100 So Gerry's early role in the case was 779 00:32:52,100 --> 00:32:53,884 he was one of the last people 780 00:32:53,884 --> 00:32:56,234 to allegedly have seen Barbara Jean 781 00:32:56,234 --> 00:32:58,062 at about 10 o'clock in the morning. 782 00:32:58,062 --> 00:32:59,324 He reported her missing, 783 00:32:59,324 --> 00:33:01,065 so he really wasn't somebody 784 00:33:01,065 --> 00:33:02,414 that they were looking at 785 00:33:02,414 --> 00:33:05,069 as having a role in her death. 786 00:33:05,069 --> 00:33:06,418 They were really good friends. 787 00:33:06,418 --> 00:33:08,942 That came through in the investigation, 788 00:33:08,942 --> 00:33:12,946 but I wasn't satisfied about him 789 00:33:12,946 --> 00:33:14,948 not being a suspect. 790 00:33:14,948 --> 00:33:16,211 [Narrator] Detectives reach out 791 00:33:16,211 --> 00:33:18,082 to Barbara's former roommates, 792 00:33:18,082 --> 00:33:20,215 asking them about Gerry. 793 00:33:20,215 --> 00:33:21,868 Some of the roommates told me that, 794 00:33:21,868 --> 00:33:24,262 "You know, Gerry just didn't have a lot of friends, 795 00:33:24,262 --> 00:33:26,960 "and Barbara was accepting of everybody. 796 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,788 "Gerry just kind of latched onto Barbara, 797 00:33:28,788 --> 00:33:32,270 "and I think Gerry had more romantic feelings 798 00:33:32,270 --> 00:33:34,359 "for Barbara than Barbara did for him." 799 00:33:34,359 --> 00:33:37,232 I think that the roommates kind of looked at Gerry 800 00:33:37,232 --> 00:33:40,235 as basically kind of a stray pet 801 00:33:40,235 --> 00:33:42,237 that people were taking care of. 802 00:33:42,237 --> 00:33:44,021 He just didn't seem like somebody 803 00:33:44,021 --> 00:33:45,457 who would kill somebody. 804 00:33:45,457 --> 00:33:47,242 [Narrator] When investigators dig into 805 00:33:47,242 --> 00:33:50,114 Gerry's life after Barbara's murder, 806 00:33:50,114 --> 00:33:52,986 they make a disturbing discovery. 807 00:33:52,986 --> 00:33:54,379 Gerry had been accused of 808 00:33:54,379 --> 00:33:57,252 rape in the Provo area after Barbara's murder. 809 00:33:58,775 --> 00:34:02,170 When I found that Gerry was arrested for a sexual assault, 810 00:34:02,170 --> 00:34:03,475 I wanted to know could Gerry 811 00:34:03,475 --> 00:34:05,651 have been the one that killed Barbara? 812 00:34:05,651 --> 00:34:07,131 Barbara's roommates 813 00:34:07,131 --> 00:34:10,047 had been away from Gerry for a long time. 814 00:34:10,047 --> 00:34:13,224 In the interviews I found out that 815 00:34:13,224 --> 00:34:16,358 Gerry really had an obsession with guns, 816 00:34:16,358 --> 00:34:21,667 and that he helped Barbara find the 357 that she bought. 817 00:34:22,538 --> 00:34:23,408 He took her out, 818 00:34:23,408 --> 00:34:25,149 showed her how to shoot the 357. 819 00:34:25,149 --> 00:34:26,455 Gerry would always tell Barbara 820 00:34:26,455 --> 00:34:28,326 about how to load her firearm, 821 00:34:28,326 --> 00:34:32,069 leaving one of the cylinders in the revolver empty, 822 00:34:32,069 --> 00:34:35,116 and then looking back and seeing that Barbara 823 00:34:35,116 --> 00:34:36,465 was shot five times, 824 00:34:36,465 --> 00:34:39,163 is that relevant in this case? 825 00:34:39,163 --> 00:34:41,905 We actually looked at the ME's report, 826 00:34:41,905 --> 00:34:43,385 and we couldn't really determine 827 00:34:43,385 --> 00:34:45,691 if she had been shot five or six times. 828 00:34:45,691 --> 00:34:47,867 There was the opinion that it was six, 829 00:34:47,867 --> 00:34:49,173 but it could have also been 830 00:34:49,173 --> 00:34:50,696 through the re-entries and fragments. 831 00:34:50,696 --> 00:34:52,176 Could have been five. 832 00:34:52,176 --> 00:34:53,873 As I'm going through these interviews 833 00:34:53,873 --> 00:34:56,789 and I'm listening to what the roommates are telling me, 834 00:34:56,789 --> 00:35:00,532 he was a rock solid suspect at this point. 835 00:35:00,532 --> 00:35:04,754 [Narrator] Detectives race to track down Gerry Hicker. 836 00:35:04,754 --> 00:35:08,888 I went to Gerry Hicker's house in Washington. 837 00:35:08,888 --> 00:35:10,238 Explained to him that I was 838 00:35:10,238 --> 00:35:11,761 looking at the Barbara Rocky case, 839 00:35:11,761 --> 00:35:14,111 and Gerry immediately said, 840 00:35:14,111 --> 00:35:15,808 "You'll have to talk with my attorney," 841 00:35:15,808 --> 00:35:19,116 and that he wasn't going to give me a statement. 842 00:35:19,116 --> 00:35:20,422 So at that point, 843 00:35:20,422 --> 00:35:21,771 I had nothing else to do but leave. 844 00:35:23,251 --> 00:35:25,340 [Narrator] With Gerry refusing to cooperate, 845 00:35:25,340 --> 00:35:28,081 investigators must find concrete evidence 846 00:35:28,081 --> 00:35:30,345 to link him to Barbara's murder. 847 00:35:30,345 --> 00:35:35,045 We wanted to see if with today's technology 848 00:35:35,045 --> 00:35:36,351 that if there was a sexual assault, 849 00:35:36,351 --> 00:35:37,439 that there might be something 850 00:35:37,439 --> 00:35:39,571 suitable for DNA testing. 851 00:35:39,571 --> 00:35:42,574 I was pretty excited to find that a vaginal 852 00:35:42,574 --> 00:35:44,576 and rectal swab had been taken on Barbara 853 00:35:44,576 --> 00:35:48,363 because by now we were utilizing DNA testing, 854 00:35:48,363 --> 00:35:50,495 and I thought that I was going to be able to 855 00:35:50,495 --> 00:35:53,411 match those up with DNA that we got 856 00:35:53,411 --> 00:35:56,458 from whatever suspects were in the case file. 857 00:35:56,458 --> 00:35:59,330 [Narrator] Investigators hope that the swab test results 858 00:35:59,330 --> 00:36:01,506 will point towards Gerry. 859 00:36:01,506 --> 00:36:04,117 They didn't know about DNA in 1974, 860 00:36:04,117 --> 00:36:06,250 and they packaged everything in plastic. 861 00:36:06,250 --> 00:36:08,383 Because it was packaged in plastic, 862 00:36:08,383 --> 00:36:10,950 it ruined any DNA that was in 863 00:36:10,950 --> 00:36:14,563 any of the biological material that was taken. 864 00:36:16,129 --> 00:36:17,392 I was devastated. 865 00:36:17,392 --> 00:36:19,132 I thought I was going to be able 866 00:36:19,132 --> 00:36:21,526 to solve that case really quickly, 867 00:36:21,526 --> 00:36:23,528 but that's not what happened. 868 00:36:23,528 --> 00:36:25,138 [Narrator] Fearing that the case 869 00:36:25,138 --> 00:36:27,402 will go cold again without solid evidence, 870 00:36:27,402 --> 00:36:29,578 investigators gamble on another way 871 00:36:29,578 --> 00:36:32,145 to obtain the evidence they're looking for. 872 00:36:32,145 --> 00:36:33,408 [dramatic music] 873 00:36:33,408 --> 00:36:35,975 I took items that had not been tested yet 874 00:36:35,975 --> 00:36:39,152 from the original evidence to our crime lab 875 00:36:39,152 --> 00:36:40,632 to have them tested. 876 00:36:40,632 --> 00:36:42,547 [Narrator] The original crime scene evidence 877 00:36:42,547 --> 00:36:45,942 includes a soil sample from beneath Barbara's body. 878 00:36:45,942 --> 00:36:49,641 I was just more or less taking the dirt out 879 00:36:49,641 --> 00:36:52,427 to have a sample taken in case 880 00:36:52,427 --> 00:36:55,560 some seminal fluid had migrated down into the dirt. 881 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,823 There was still the belief, 882 00:36:57,823 --> 00:37:00,173 based on the scene and everything, 883 00:37:00,173 --> 00:37:01,174 that there was a possibility 884 00:37:01,174 --> 00:37:02,480 of a sexual assault. 885 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,308 When I got the results of the test, 886 00:37:04,308 --> 00:37:08,660 surprisingly we got a match that there was DNA 887 00:37:08,660 --> 00:37:12,098 from the soil that was underneath Barbara's body. 888 00:37:12,098 --> 00:37:13,186 [dramatic music] 889 00:37:13,186 --> 00:37:14,884 [Narrator] After 30 years, 890 00:37:14,884 --> 00:37:18,583 had DNA analysis finally identified Barbara's killer? 891 00:37:18,583 --> 00:37:22,805 What came back as a result of that testing was shocking. 892 00:37:22,805 --> 00:37:25,634 [dramatic music] 893 00:37:31,553 --> 00:37:33,381 [tense music]arrator] It's been 894 00:37:33,381 --> 00:37:35,296 since student Barbara Rocky 895 00:37:35,296 --> 00:37:37,298 was found stripped and shot 896 00:37:37,298 --> 00:37:39,778 in Big Cottonwood Canyon, Utah. 897 00:37:39,778 --> 00:37:45,218 In 2007, DNA in a soil sample from under her body 898 00:37:46,307 --> 00:37:47,395 finally reveals her killer. 899 00:37:47,395 --> 00:37:51,616 Finding that DNA in the soil 900 00:37:51,616 --> 00:37:53,966 was like finding a needle in a haystack, 901 00:37:53,966 --> 00:37:55,577 a big haystack. 902 00:37:55,577 --> 00:37:58,493 The results come in and we've got a match, 903 00:37:59,450 --> 00:38:00,451 and it's Gerry Hicker. 904 00:38:00,451 --> 00:38:02,801 [dramatic music] 905 00:38:02,801 --> 00:38:04,716 Just that little bit of information 906 00:38:04,716 --> 00:38:06,631 was all that we needed to link Gerry Hicker 907 00:38:06,631 --> 00:38:08,329 to this crime scene. 908 00:38:08,329 --> 00:38:10,809 He was not who we suspected initially, 909 00:38:10,809 --> 00:38:13,377 and so to learn that he was 910 00:38:13,377 --> 00:38:15,945 the one responsible for killing her 911 00:38:15,945 --> 00:38:17,468 was very surprising. 912 00:38:17,468 --> 00:38:20,297 [Narrator] On November 6, 2007, 913 00:38:20,297 --> 00:38:22,734 56-year-old Gerry Hicker is charged 914 00:38:22,734 --> 00:38:26,347 with the first-degree murder of Barbara Rocky. 915 00:38:26,347 --> 00:38:27,652 When I first found out that 916 00:38:27,652 --> 00:38:30,873 the killer of Barbara was Gerry Hicker, 917 00:38:30,873 --> 00:38:32,004 I was 918 00:38:32,004 --> 00:38:33,354 surprised 919 00:38:33,354 --> 00:38:34,659 because I heard that 920 00:38:34,659 --> 00:38:36,922 he was just sort of a guy from next door. 921 00:38:36,922 --> 00:38:38,620 It was a shock. 922 00:38:38,620 --> 00:38:41,144 I never thought it would be solved. 923 00:38:41,144 --> 00:38:44,234 [Narrator] As prosecutors prepare for their day in court, 924 00:38:44,234 --> 00:38:48,325 they piece together a theory of how Gerry killed Barbara. 925 00:38:48,325 --> 00:38:51,807 So our belief of what happened was, 926 00:38:51,807 --> 00:38:55,332 Gerry Hicker knew that Barbara may be leaving, 927 00:38:55,332 --> 00:38:58,683 because that next morning he was aware of the letter 928 00:38:58,683 --> 00:39:01,382 before he brought the car back. 929 00:39:01,382 --> 00:39:03,471 I think what tipped him over the edge was 930 00:39:03,471 --> 00:39:05,081 he wanted Barbara 931 00:39:06,648 --> 00:39:10,434 sexually, and her rejection and her indication 932 00:39:10,434 --> 00:39:13,437 of leaving Gerry was more than he could take. 933 00:39:13,437 --> 00:39:15,657 Hicker winds up talking Rocky 934 00:39:15,657 --> 00:39:17,789 into going up Big Cottonwood Canyon 935 00:39:17,789 --> 00:39:21,793 with this scenic view one more time before she leaves. 936 00:39:21,793 --> 00:39:24,796 And when they get to this spot, 937 00:39:24,796 --> 00:39:27,886 Gerry's trying to put the moves on Barbara, 938 00:39:27,886 --> 00:39:29,801 and she doesn't want to have 939 00:39:29,801 --> 00:39:31,716 anything to do with Gerry that way. 940 00:39:31,716 --> 00:39:33,457 Hicker takes out a gun, 941 00:39:33,457 --> 00:39:37,766 and in rage he tells her to strip down, 942 00:39:37,766 --> 00:39:40,682 and she was probably folding the clothes 943 00:39:40,682 --> 00:39:43,424 in order to buy herself a little more time. 944 00:39:43,424 --> 00:39:45,556 Barbara's pleading for her life. 945 00:39:45,556 --> 00:39:47,558 She's just trying to get anything 946 00:39:47,558 --> 00:39:49,995 into Gerry's mind to not do this. 947 00:39:51,475 --> 00:39:52,694 And then he shot her, [gunfire blasting] 948 00:39:52,694 --> 00:39:54,565 apparently while she was standing up, 949 00:39:54,565 --> 00:39:56,045 and then she went down, 950 00:39:56,045 --> 00:39:57,612 and then he shot her 951 00:39:58,743 --> 00:40:00,963 four times in the lower back region. 952 00:40:01,746 --> 00:40:02,878 [Narrator] After the murder, 953 00:40:02,878 --> 00:40:05,576 Gerry tried to cover his tracks. 954 00:40:05,576 --> 00:40:08,361 Gerry has to drive back to campus. 955 00:40:08,361 --> 00:40:09,885 He gets rid of the gun, 956 00:40:11,452 --> 00:40:14,455 and he's trying to come up with alibis. 957 00:40:14,455 --> 00:40:16,587 He knows he can't park the car 958 00:40:16,587 --> 00:40:18,328 right there at Barbara's house, 959 00:40:18,328 --> 00:40:22,463 so he takes it over to the Parkway Plaza Apartments. 960 00:40:22,463 --> 00:40:24,465 That's where he decides 961 00:40:24,465 --> 00:40:26,467 he's going to use this letter 962 00:40:26,467 --> 00:40:27,772 making her a missing person. 963 00:40:27,772 --> 00:40:30,862 This was a young woman who trusted somebody. 964 00:40:30,862 --> 00:40:33,604 They're supposed to be going to a nice spot, 965 00:40:33,604 --> 00:40:36,346 and instead she's shot and murdered. 966 00:40:36,346 --> 00:40:38,740 I felt so horrible knowing that 967 00:40:38,740 --> 00:40:41,525 she had gone through something like that. 968 00:40:41,525 --> 00:40:44,485 She was probably so scared. 969 00:40:44,485 --> 00:40:46,791 Nobody deserved to die like that. 970 00:40:46,791 --> 00:40:48,576 Nobody. [gentle music] 971 00:40:48,576 --> 00:40:50,839 I believe that Gerry was 972 00:40:50,839 --> 00:40:54,495 being the concerned, loving friend, 973 00:40:54,495 --> 00:40:58,542 and that may have put some thoughts 974 00:40:58,542 --> 00:40:59,935 in the investigators mind that there's just 975 00:40:59,935 --> 00:41:02,851 no way Gerry could have done this. 976 00:41:02,851 --> 00:41:05,810 Beneath the facade just seemed to be rage 977 00:41:05,810 --> 00:41:08,813 and anger that he'd been rejected. 978 00:41:08,813 --> 00:41:11,599 I think Gerry Hicker was a sexual predator 979 00:41:11,599 --> 00:41:14,776 that got away with a lot of crimes. 980 00:41:14,776 --> 00:41:18,170 We were so glad and so grateful 981 00:41:18,170 --> 00:41:19,694 [gentle music] 982 00:41:19,694 --> 00:41:22,479 that the detectives had worked so hard. 983 00:41:22,479 --> 00:41:26,875 It boggled my mind that they could solve it after 34 years. 984 00:41:28,398 --> 00:41:30,182 [Narrator] Despite an airtight case against Gerry, 985 00:41:30,182 --> 00:41:34,535 his declining health leaves prosecutors with a new dilemma. 986 00:41:34,535 --> 00:41:36,928 When I went to arrest Gerry, 987 00:41:36,928 --> 00:41:39,540 he had been diagnosed with cancer. 988 00:41:39,540 --> 00:41:41,846 He was just the shell of a man. 989 00:41:41,846 --> 00:41:44,806 We didn't feel that his life span 990 00:41:44,806 --> 00:41:48,113 was much of five years, if that. 991 00:41:49,593 --> 00:41:51,464 So we worked out a deal that he would plead 992 00:41:51,464 --> 00:41:54,816 to a substantially reduced charge of manslaughter, 993 00:41:54,816 --> 00:41:55,904 and that he would be sentenced 994 00:41:55,904 --> 00:41:58,080 to the prison for five years, 995 00:41:59,603 --> 00:42:01,039 figuring that would be a life sentence. 996 00:42:01,039 --> 00:42:05,174 Going with the plea deal was my mom's decision. 997 00:42:05,174 --> 00:42:07,698 She wanted him to say 998 00:42:07,698 --> 00:42:11,006 in his own words that he did it. 999 00:42:11,006 --> 00:42:13,530 She wanted those answers. 1000 00:42:14,966 --> 00:42:16,533 [Narrator] Gerry Hicker serves three years 1001 00:42:16,533 --> 00:42:18,187 in Utah state prison, 1002 00:42:18,187 --> 00:42:19,884 and in 2014, 1003 00:42:19,884 --> 00:42:22,583 five years after pleading guilty, 1004 00:42:22,583 --> 00:42:23,975 he dies of cancer. 1005 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,240 I bet you he had been looking over his shoulders 1006 00:42:28,240 --> 00:42:29,938 all these years. 1007 00:42:29,938 --> 00:42:32,767 I felt that his ill health was Barbara's justice. 1008 00:42:32,767 --> 00:42:36,988 This is somebody that wasted away not only his life, 1009 00:42:36,988 --> 00:42:40,862 he ruined so many people's lives by his selfish act. 1010 00:42:40,862 --> 00:42:42,603 Barbara didn't deserve this. 1011 00:42:42,603 --> 00:42:44,605 She had so much ahead of her, 1012 00:42:44,605 --> 00:42:47,085 but the family does have some answers. 1013 00:42:47,085 --> 00:42:49,740 That's the goal in my investigation. 1014 00:42:49,740 --> 00:42:52,743 I think that in this case justice was served, 1015 00:42:52,743 --> 00:42:55,311 and that the family got answers 1016 00:42:55,311 --> 00:42:57,574 that they would not have otherwise had. 1017 00:42:57,574 --> 00:42:59,445 The thing I miss most about Barbara 1018 00:42:59,445 --> 00:43:03,798 was the times that we used to blast Beatles music 1019 00:43:03,798 --> 00:43:06,714 and sing and dance for hours. 1020 00:43:06,714 --> 00:43:08,498 Just being kids, you know? 1021 00:43:09,717 --> 00:43:11,544 I remember her then. 1022 00:43:11,544 --> 00:43:13,285 Barbara was such a giving person. 1023 00:43:13,285 --> 00:43:15,331 I feel inspired by her 1024 00:43:16,941 --> 00:43:19,596 ability to give of herself 1025 00:43:22,991 --> 00:43:25,341 and I try to emulate that. 1026 00:43:28,300 --> 00:43:30,955 [somber music]