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{\an8}It was just an accident.
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{\an8}Charge him.
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With? Murder.
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What about her?
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We've got enough.
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We'll get more.
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He's cutting your throat.
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It's not uncommon this kind of
defence.
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And this is not the first complaint
made against Dhillon as it goes.
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It was the first. Some girl called
Lucinda Bright.
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Case was heard by a panel chaired by
a geezer called Stephen Vendler,
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who also happens to be an old pal
of the Harwoods.
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You have to shift the focus onto
Vendler's affair with Talitha.
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The eagle has landed.
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They're all calling me Lady Tease.
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So she was sleeping with Vendler.
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I told Talitha that Hannah had
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complained to me about
Dhillon Harwood.
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Talitha is a liar. She'll say or do
anything to get attention.
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If you're going to be put on
show to a bunch of pervy men,
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you may as well get paid for it.
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Your mother put you on show?
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This is a moment where Dhillon
has the scarf in his possession.
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Stick it with the rest of the...
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The police don't like you.
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You need to tell me anything
that can help your defence.
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And we don't have to show exactly
what happened in the room,
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but they both went there, and a few
hours later, Hannah is in the river.
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Yes, and we're not going to let
Dhillon's defence say it was only
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Talitha, because who the hell
doesn't notice that a girl
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is being strangled to death?
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DEVICE CHIMES
Get in!
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Is it a match?
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The micro fragment from Talitha's
bracelet matches the rucksack.
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That's it. We got her.
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ANIMATED DISTANT SHOUTING
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THEY SHOUT, CHANT
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Dhillon Harwood and Tabitha Campbell
arrived at court this morning,
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escorted by police
from their respective prisons,
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where they're currently held...
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Considerable interest given the
backgrounds of both defendants
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and protests... There have been
reports of traffic chaos
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in Bristol today as campaigners
surrounded the Central Crown Court.
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Delays are expected...
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The much anticipated trial of
Talitha Campbell and Dillon Harwood.
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Both defendants entered not guilty
pleas to the charge of murder
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earlier this year. Speculation
about his daughter, the so-called
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Lady Tease, the Crown Prosecution
Service reminds all concerned...
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An inquiry into leaks to the media
has today been launched,
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amidst claims that the ensuing
social media speculation
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may have compromised...
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The murder of Hannah Ellis in June
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this year has continued to draw
interest.
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Now, the jury will hear the evidence
that led to two establishment
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figures charged with murder.
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Dhillon Harwood and Talitha Campbell
attended the university summer ball
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together on the night of Hannah's
murder.
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Later, you, the jury, will hear
about an argument at the ball
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about Hannah's threats to call
the police
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and her subsequent distress.
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The threats before the ball
and the argument at the ball give us
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a vital clue as to the motives
of the defendants,
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which revolved around the complaints
made against Dhillon Harwood.
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We know that Dhillon Harwood
and Talitha Campbell left the ball
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some time after Hannah
had finished her shift.
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Dhillon Harwood does not deny
that they formed the intent
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to visit her and indeed did so,
but claims her death was an accident
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in which he played no part.
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This can be rejected for the
cynical falsehood it so plainly is.
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We do not know what they really
discussed on their fateful journey
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to the house or when they formed
the intent to assault and kill her.
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We DO know that they had consumed
a lot of illegal drugs
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and that not more than an hour after
Talitha Campbell and Dhillon Harwood
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entered her room, Hannah
was strangled with the scarf worn
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by Talitha Campbell to the ball
that night.
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And then her body was disposed
of with cruel indifference.
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Ladies and gentlemen of the jury,
that is the case which the Crown
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will prove to you. It can leave no
doubt in your mind that both
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Dhillon Harwood and Talitha Campbell
are guilty of the cruel murder
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of a young woman with everything
to look forward to in life.
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Thank you, Mr Reynolds.
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Ladies and gentlemen of the jury,
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you have now heard the opening
speech for the prosecution.
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Both defence teams have indicated
that they also wish to make
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an opening speech.
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Miss Hemmings is representing
Talitha Campbell and Miss Barie
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is representing Dhillon Harwood.
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Dhillon did not send threatening
texts.
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It was not HIS scarf that caused
Hannah's death.
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Dhillon Harwood accepts
that he was there.
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But blames Talitha for the actual
death.
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He is guilty of terrible judgment
and of being unduly influenced.
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He is not guilty of murder.
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He and his defence will do
everything to attack the character
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of my client.
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But it's not Talitha's character
that is on trial here.
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The dysfunction and unequal
friendship
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fully explain why he colluded with
her disastrous decisions
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on that tragic night.
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The only thing you have to ask
yourself at the end
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of this trial is this.
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Do you have any doubt?
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I am sure that after we have
reviewed all of the evidence,
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you will have a great deal of doubt
as to the guilt of Talitha Campbell.
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And if you do...
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..you must acquit her.
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Damian Campbell, the controversial
property magnate at the end
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of the first day of the trial
of his daughter Talitha.
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He's in court with her legal team.
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CLAMOURING
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Much of the first day has been
taken up by legal arguments
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and the opening statements
for the prosecution
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and both defendants.
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Dhillon Harwood has already pleaded
guilty to the lesser charge
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of preventing a lawful burial and
perverting the course of justice,
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but he denies murder.
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Meanwhile, Talitha Campbell denies
all the charges against her.
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What can I expect if I'm only
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sentenced to the unlawful burial
charge?
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Maximum is still life,
but it can be as low as a fine.
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Average, five to eight years, so...
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There's also perverting
the course of justice, remember.
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I deserve punishment for all
of that.
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That's not the important thing.
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What's the important thing?
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The truth, Mum.
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I don't mind what I'm known
for, being on the spectrum,
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being an idiot,
being Talitha's Chihuahua.
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That's what they used to call me
in school. But not a murderer.
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OK, can we talk a little
about Lucinda Bright?
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Yeah. She's completely nuts.
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Anybody will tell you.
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God, I wish I'd never even heard
her name.
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It'll be OK, sweetheart.
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Just try and stay calm and tell
the truth.
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That's all you can do.
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Mrs Campbell wasn't in court.
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She couldn't face it.
It's for the best, really.
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I don't think her presence
would have been a big
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comfort to Tali.
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Has it ever been?
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Is this relevant to anything?
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I don't know. Is it?
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Well, I'm no lawyer, but my hunch
would be that providing
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an explanation of their new forensic
evidence would be higher
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on your to-do list than raking
through my wife's parenting skills.
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Got it. Good.
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Oh, surf's up. Is this DI Cassidy in
the morning?
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I know, I'll be handling that.
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Well, I thought solicitors
didn't speak... Solicitor advocate.
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I'll do some cross-examination
of police witnesses, and I know
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Paula Cassidy well.
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What about Talitha? That'll
obviously be my silk, but nothing's
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decided on that anyway.
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You're going to put her in the box,
though.
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It's still all under discussion.
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There are some issues.
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There's only one issue.
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This is a show trial.
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It won't be decided on the evidence,
but on her and on us, and on...
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..this. By the media, sure.
But the jury decide.
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Well, if 99% of humanity is anything
to go by,
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the jury will absolutely hate her.
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I don't hate her.
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I know. You need to push her on that
rucksack fragment
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they found on the bracelet.
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Or she's in big trouble.
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Talking to her in the morning.
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I bet they planted it.
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I bet it was that Cassidy,
that stupid, ugly, evil bitch.
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Hey, stop. Stop it.
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How else could a fragment
from Hannah's rucksack have gotten
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snagged on your bracelet?
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Oh, what, I can talk now?
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I haven't got a clue.
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Then try and wrack your brains
because it might make a significant
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difference to the rest of your life.
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TALITHA LAUGHS
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I made you cross. You often
make me cross, Talitha.
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And think hard because I am
really not messing around here.
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Everything depends on this.
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This is the only piece of forensic
evidence that directly ties
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you to the murder scene.
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Wait.
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She lent it to me once to go
to Paris.
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Did she? Course she fucking didn't!
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Could you imagine me walking
around the Marais with that piece
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of high street nylon crap?
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KNOCK AT DOOR, DOOR OPENS
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They are ready.
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Thank you.
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Let's go.
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I do solemnly, sincerely and truly
declare and affirm that the evidence
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I shall give shall be the truth,
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the whole truth and nothing
but the truth.
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If I could ask the jury to please
look at photograph 7C?
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Could you describe the photo,
Detective Inspector?
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Yes, it's the fireplace
at Dhillon Harwood's cottage.
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Is that where he burned
the evidence? Yes.
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He was also burning some
of his own clothes.
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Does that appear strange to you?
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That's not an appropriate
question, Mr Reynolds.
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DI Cassidy is here to give evidence,
not opinion,
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as you know perfectly well.
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Apologies, My Lady.
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Were the clothes very burned?
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Yes. All the clothes, including a
scarf? Yes.
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And where else were fibres
from that scarf found?
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On Hannah's body and also a single
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fibre found in Talitha's drawer
at home?
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Were the fibres
all from the same scarf?
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All the same scarf.
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Do you have any doubt that Talitha
Campbell's scarf
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was the murder weapon?
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None whatsoever.
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And does the evidence show
Talitha Campbell wearing the scarf
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throughout the entire ball? Yes.
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We scrutinised all the mobile and
photographic footage,
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and in every single piece
of evidence,
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Talitha is shown to be wearing
the scarf.
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In the CCTV footage of Miss Campbell
walking home from the ball,
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is she wearing the green scarf?
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We...couldn't tell.
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Let me rephrase that so you can give
the jury a yes or no answer.
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Does your last sighting
of Miss Campbell on the night
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of the ball show her wearing
the scarf used to kill Hannah Ellis?
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No.
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Who was the last person
to have possession of the scarf?
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Well, if you mean...
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The CCTV didn't show...
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I mean precisely what I said.
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Who was the last person to have
possession of the scarf used
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to murder Hannah Ellis?
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Dhillon Harwood at the cottage,
obviously, but on the night
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of the ball itself...
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Thank you, DI Cassidy,
you've already answered my question.
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Who is Troy Manners?
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An individual we eliminated
from our inquiries.
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Ah, yes. Yeah.
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Your original line of inquiry
was that Miss Campbell had hired him
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to murder Hannah Ellis.
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That was ONE line of inquiry.
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A false one.
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He provided an alibi.
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Hannah Ellis' bank card was used
almost immediately
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after her disappearance.
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Is that correct? Yes.
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In the West Midlands area? Yes.
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Does Miss Campbell have any
connection to the West Midlands,
250
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to the best of your knowledge?
251
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No, not to the best of my knowledge.
252
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Does Troy Manners have connections
to the West Midlands? Yes.
253
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Was Troy Manners at the ball
at any time? Yes.
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Is it the case that Hannah Ellis'
bank card was discovered at the home
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of someone who does have connections
to Troy Manners?
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Yes.
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LIGHT MURMUR
258
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But you ruled him out.
259
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Who?
260
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Troy Manners. Yes.
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SHE EXHALES DEEPLY
262
00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:26,960
Are you familiar with the term
confirmation bias, DI Cassidy?
263
00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:35,238
I didn't expect her to motor on
Troy. Threw down a sudden googly
264
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when you weren't expecting it.
265
00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,078
Yeah. Well, it made the jury
frown, though.
266
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Who is Troy Manners?
Why isn't he here?
267
00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:44,958
Are they just trying to cover
something up?
268
00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,118
Talitha could have given him
the card. And so could Dhillon.
269
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And so could any number of the
students, and that was the point.
270
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But you didn't want to consider that
271
00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:58,278
cos you'd made your mind up from the
get go. Uh, wait a sec, Sooty.
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Can I just check you haven't got a
defence hand up your jacksie
273
00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:02,118
moving your mouth?
274
00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,198
You should be more worried
about the noise in the jury room
275
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because they're going to be
discussing Troy Manners right now.
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I guarantee it. No.
277
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It'll be fine.
278
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I have been sent a note from the
jury asking for more information
279
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about Troy Manners, specifically
asking to hear his evidence.
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Ladies and gentlemen of the jury,
I should remind you that only
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the prosecution and defence
decide who gives evidence.
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And on that evidence alone, will you
be asked to reach your verdicts.
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We'll adjourn for lunch.
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All rise.
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Brian.
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DOOR CLOSES
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The bracelet.
288
00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,038
This again.
289
00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:37,480
Green Man.
290
00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:40,918
What about it?
What can you tell me about it?
291
00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:42,478
It's a music festival in Cornwall.
292
00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,958
It's a music festival in Wales.
293
00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:46,758
Oh, yeah. Who did you go with?
294
00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:48,718
Dhillon. And...?
295
00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:50,198
Man, I don't know.
296
00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:51,838
There was a bunch of us, really.
297
00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:53,638
It was absolutely shit.
298
00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,718
I never wanted to go because I hate
festivals.
299
00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:59,278
You'll never guess what, though.
What? It was sunny.
300
00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:00,638
I know, in Wales.
301
00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:04,478
I do know because there's a photo
of you in the paper
302
00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,720
with Hannah at the festival.
303
00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,078
Is there, really? How do I look?
304
00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,838
Brian has found out who took
the photo.
305
00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:17,000
It's from the Facebook page
of Amber Morton.
306
00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:23,478
Never met her. Yes, you have. You've
just got a sieve-shaped brain.
307
00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,838
Oh, wait. Red hair, eyes.
308
00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,598
Yes, yes, she does have red hair
and eyes.
309
00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:33,158
No, but they're those really close
together eyes, and quite a big nose.
310
00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:34,758
I quite like that look, to be fair.
311
00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,040
In fact, I may have snogged her.
312
00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:42,720
So, question one, did you all take
rucksacks?
313
00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,040
Probably. And question two...
314
00:19:48,120 --> 00:19:50,000
..did you wear the bracelet?
315
00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:53,440
I don't know.
316
00:19:58,120 --> 00:19:59,160
Great.
317
00:20:00,360 --> 00:20:04,478
Why don't you check the photo?
We have. It's not clear.
318
00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,440
Get Brian to hunt down Amber.
319
00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,760
I should change to a law degree when
this is all over, I'm good at this.
320
00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,360
If I'm found guilty, though,
I'll kill myself.
321
00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,398
I'm not being melodramatic, Cleo.
322
00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:23,720
I definitely will.
323
00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:26,800
OK.
324
00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:36,760
OK.
325
00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:40,320
Take a breath.
326
00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,720
SHE INHALES DEEPLY
327
00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,000
SHE EXHALES
328
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,480
We have to nullify that bracelet.
329
00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,080
SHE SIGHS
330
00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,118
So who are the big fish for us?
331
00:20:58,120 --> 00:21:00,318
Well, there's forensics
still to come, the bracelet.
332
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:01,678
That looks like a slam dunk,
333
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,718
and then there's the whole
Vendler thing. Yeah.
334
00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,758
And how many sleeps till Talitha?
335
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,958
Well, all the Vendler stuff comes
with a big warning sign
336
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:12,398
marked admissibility.
337
00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:13,678
Especially the widow.
338
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,478
Hopefully, it'll just be the cherry
on top of the forensics cake.
339
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,558
I thought I might go an see
Mrs Vendler.
340
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:23,798
Just to warn her that the judge
might bar her evidence as hearsay.
341
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,878
Good idea. No coaching, obviously.
342
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:32,598
Oh, don't worry, I understand James
is really good with widows.
343
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,518
OTHERS CHUCKLE
Behave!
344
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,078
I'm only teasing. And you'd be
345
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,158
making that joke if I was a woman,
right?
346
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,318
Ooh, men have feelings, too.
347
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:42,998
Let me know how it goes, will you?
348
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,358
No, I won't actually, Paula,
349
00:21:44,360 --> 00:21:46,278
because you've actually
hurt my feelings.
350
00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,838
Aw! So I'm going to be mansplaining
this to Jenny later.
351
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,800
Oh, right. Well, see you. Good luck.
352
00:21:55,120 --> 00:21:58,758
So you're an academic too? Sort of.
353
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,478
I teach part time on a creative
writing course, and I also
354
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,678
have a writer's grant. Really?
What do you write? I'm a poet.
355
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,478
Great. Why?
356
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,438
Sorry? Why is it great?
357
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:16,398
Well, just, it sounds better
than Crown prosecutor, I guess.
358
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,078
Do you like poetry, Mr Thornley?
359
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,438
Jeez, I don't really read a lot
any more, to be honest.
360
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:21,878
Most people don't.
361
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,558
That's why I also have to teach.
362
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,198
There was a poem I liked
when I was a kid, though. I think
363
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,078
it's called Flannen Isle.
364
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:34,478
While three men dwell on
Flannan Isle...
365
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,038
That's it.
366
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,800
The over-toppled chair. Spooky.
367
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,878
We still don't know if the judge
will admit your evidence.
368
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,958
Both defences will argue
that it's hearsay
369
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,760
and shouldn't be heard by the jury.
370
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,200
She sounds like quite a girl,
this Talitha Campbell.
371
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:01,918
Looks ghastly in the newspapers.
372
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,318
In fairness, they are emphasising
the particular side to her.
373
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,118
I suppose so.
374
00:23:07,120 --> 00:23:08,638
Lady Tease. Yeah.
375
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,160
Poor little rich girl.
Is she beautiful?
376
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:18,080
I guess. I mean, she wouldn't be
my type, essentially. Why not?
377
00:23:20,120 --> 00:23:22,080
I'm not sure. What is your type?
378
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,640
I'm not sure about that, either.
379
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,520
Are you a good husband?
380
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,118
I think you should ask my wife.
381
00:23:32,120 --> 00:23:34,440
Could you resist her?
382
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:36,838
Yes.
383
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,518
Stephen said to me once
there is no man who does not
384
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,758
immediately evaluate a woman
in terms of whether he would
385
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,520
like to fuck her or not.
386
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:49,438
Maybe that's true, but...normal life
387
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,520
like happiness, society...
388
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:55,638
..luckily, they're not really
389
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,520
dependent on people's thoughts,
so...
390
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,360
..it's not a very interesting
or useful thing to say, really.
391
00:24:05,360 --> 00:24:07,160
That's a good answer.
392
00:24:08,360 --> 00:24:11,998
Stephen didn't kill himself because
I found out he'd slept
393
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,440
with another student.
394
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,678
He killed himself because he had
a conscience
395
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:23,318
and he was convinced he had caused
those two narcissistic monsters
396
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,120
to murder that poor girl.
397
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,518
CHANTING: Justice for Hannah!
Justice for Hannah!
398
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,358
Justice for Hannah!
399
00:24:37,360 --> 00:24:41,798
So there are many small diamonds and
emeralds
400
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:47,158
arranged in 12 larger clusters of
stones and 11 links between them.
401
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:48,200
OK.
402
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,358
With My Lady's permission?
403
00:24:52,360 --> 00:24:53,400
Go ahead.
404
00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,398
So you can see, it is a perfectly
normal rucksack.
405
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,598
This is a replica of the one
that Hannah kept in her cupboard,
406
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:09,560
along with the sleeping bag used
to dispose of her body in the river.
407
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:16,318
Dr English. We found a nylon fibre
matching the constituent fibres
408
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,878
of the rucksack in colour
and composition
409
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:23,598
caught in the bracelet Talitha
Campbell was wearing to the ball.
410
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:24,958
How did it get there?
411
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:29,078
So we think when shouldering
the rucksack,
412
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:33,678
this part snagged in one of the
casings holding the diamonds,
413
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,438
which have tiny claws.
414
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,878
So let me be very clear.
415
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:43,758
A fragment from the rucksack used
to dispose of the body
416
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:48,438
was found on a bracelet worn
by Talitha Campbell?
417
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:49,918
Yes.
418
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,598
And what is your conclusion
based on that?
419
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,198
Well, given that the rucksack
was used to weight the body,
420
00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:00,518
it strongly supports the idea
that Talitha Campbell was involved
421
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,078
in the disposing of the body
of the deceased.
422
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:04,558
LIGHT MURMUR
423
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:05,800
No more questions.
424
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,998
The rucksack used to weight
the body,
425
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:16,478
that was Hannah Ellis' rucksack,
am I correct?
426
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:21,118
Yes. A rucksack she would have used
on other occasions.
427
00:26:21,120 --> 00:26:23,158
I have no knowledge of that.
428
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:27,158
The jury will hear she was given
the rucksack along with the
429
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:31,478
sleeping bag by her mother on her
19th birthday.
430
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,278
I'll take your word for it.
431
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:38,958
Do you know how long a
micro fragment could remain trapped
432
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,678
like that in a bracelet?
433
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,118
I don't have an estimate for that.
434
00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:44,798
Wouldn't have come loose
any time soon?
435
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,798
I don't really understand
your question.
436
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:55,118
If Talitha Campbell had handled the
rucksack at any point in the year
437
00:26:55,120 --> 00:26:57,398
that Hannah Ellis had owned it,
438
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,078
could the nylon fragment
have become snagged then?
439
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,238
It grows increasingly unlikely that
440
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,638
it would stay there over time,
of course.
441
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,038
Well, would it amaze you,
Dr English?
442
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:12,598
would it be like seeing rain falling
upwards
443
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,598
or Rovers winning at home?
444
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,198
CHUCKLING
445
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:20,438
Not everybody understands a football
joke, Miss Hemmings, but I assume
446
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,318
you want us to consider
this event is at the
447
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:24,758
outer limits of plausibility?
448
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,038
I do, My Lady, and please excuse
the levity.
449
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,438
This is a most serious matter.
450
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,838
As I say, I don't like to speculate.
451
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,518
I'm not asking you to speculate.
452
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,998
Could the nylon fragment
have remained trapped
453
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,680
for as long as a year?
454
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:45,800
Yes, it is possible.
455
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,478
They're obviously going to suggest
that Talitha plus bracelet plus
456
00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:01,518
rucksack came together on a previous
date. When? No idea, but I'm sure
457
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,358
we'll find out when they bring
in their forensics and-or Talitha.
458
00:28:05,360 --> 00:28:07,998
Maybe they're bluffing and haven't
got anything.
459
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,198
Do you think Talitha will give
evidence?
460
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,360
I imagine that's a question giving
them a few sleepless nights.
461
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,278
My guess, they're still working
on the bracelet.
462
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:23,638
Either way, they've got
a massive accumulation problem.
463
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,678
You can get away with one
possible but unlikely.
464
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:31,358
I still think with a scarf
as well, we're ahead.
465
00:28:31,360 --> 00:28:35,398
What's happening with Talitha's
porn history and the femdom stuff?
466
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,318
Judge is giving her decision Monday
morning. Can't see her allowing it.
467
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,198
We don't need it.
468
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,198
Lydia Vendler is the game changer.
469
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,078
Agreed.
470
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:47,718
She is compelling.
471
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,318
But both defences will be preying
it's ruled as hearsay,
472
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,038
given the real witness took a header
off the towel
473
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,920
and was clearly not in his right
mind. Hm.
474
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,718
What does that mean?
Incoming coming metaphor.
475
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,278
Don't bet the ranch on it.
476
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,198
Which defence team will be most
scared of Lydia Vendler,
477
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:08,720
do you reckon? Talitha's.
478
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:10,880
Good.
479
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,040
That lot think they can buy
their way out of anything.
480
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,240
HELICOPTER WHIRS
481
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,838
So what happens next on
the rucksack? We fired our gun
482
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,878
and there are no more bullets
left in the chamber.
483
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,158
Amber Mortman is
proving a bit elusive,
484
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,518
disabled her social media
and gone to ground.
485
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,158
Well, find her.
It's what I pay you for.
486
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,518
Don't talk to me like that.
487
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:42,718
But, yeah, we're on it.
488
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,398
Which means they will only
have our word for the idea
489
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,678
that Talitha wore the bracelet
to the festival.
490
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,718
Did she say she did?
491
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,198
It's Talitha.
492
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:52,358
OK.
493
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,838
The helicopter's here.
494
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,198
I heard.
Going anywhere nice?
495
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:58,680
Scotland.
496
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,758
Oh.
Not your thing, I imagine, Cleo.
497
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,838
Not really.
You disapprove.
498
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,798
A bit, yes.
Thought you might?
499
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,878
Well, largely on aesthetic grounds.
Oh, aesthetic grounds.
500
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,398
That's right.
501
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,278
Care to elaborate. I'm intrigued.
502
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:15,478
OK.
503
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,038
I don't care for the whole look,
504
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,478
from the Balmoral clothes
to the Land Rovers.
505
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,158
It's just not me. No.
506
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,038
And while I'm not
especially right-on,
507
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,398
there is
something deeply stupid to me
508
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,478
about blasting
delicate creatures out of the sky
509
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,838
just because you have
the means to do so. Deeply stupid.
510
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,878
Do you hear what your lawyer thinks
about us, darling? I did.
511
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,958
But she's quite right.
512
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:45,198
It is stupidly satisfying to
blast something smaller than oneself
513
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,440
into a mass of blood and feathers.
514
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:53,640
Have a nice weekend, everyone,
and we'll reconvene Sunday evening.
515
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,040
Spam!
516
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,040
Hey, look!
517
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,080
I can't do it.
518
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,718
I can't get up in that dock,
not with them looking at me.
519
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,598
Andrea, they're
going to be in the docks,
520
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,478
you're going
to be in the witness stand.
521
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,518
I won't be able to breathe.
522
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,478
Or I'll scream
523
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,118
or I'll be sick or worse.
524
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,998
The questions will be very quick
and easy.
525
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,400
Did you see Vendler?
What did he say?
526
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,680
It's not about the questions.
527
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:42,558
I'm scared.
528
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,238
I'm scared that I'll...
529
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:45,518
I'll let her down.
530
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,200
I get it, Andrea. I understand.
531
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,118
For whatever it's worth,
532
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,600
I don't think you've ever
let her down.
533
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,880
What do you think Hannah
would say?
534
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,720
She's not here, is she?
535
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,000
She can't say anything.
536
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:13,918
Spam!
537
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,638
Oh, she always does this. Spam!
538
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,198
SPAM BARKS
539
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:19,680
Spam!
540
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:10,558
Come on.
541
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,558
Right, one, two three.
542
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,080
Ready. Go.
543
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,078
Thank you very much.
544
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:18,398
Oh, sweet baby James!
545
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,118
All right?
546
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,158
I bet you didn't know
that was your nickname.
547
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:23,198
Yes, I did, actually.
548
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,358
Oh, you going to be going round to
see and seeing Andrea?
549
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:27,518
Andy, knock it off.
550
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,518
What? Your special grief counsellor.
Andy, I said, knock it off.
551
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,638
Come on, Andy, that's not really on,
mate. That's not really on, mate.
552
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,878
I'm joking!
Let me get you a drink, come on.
553
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,878
I'm just going to say
happy birthday to Paula.
554
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,318
Have you heard the latest odds
on a double conviction?
555
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,958
What was it? Five to 11?
You fancy a bit of that?
556
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,278
Well, I'm flattered you're so
confident, but not on my salary.
557
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,998
I'd put all that ball footage
back in the schedule.
558
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,478
Might improve it for him.
Get him involved a bit.
559
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:53,558
Yeah, very funny.
560
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,838
What ball footage is that, then?
561
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,878
Oh, what is it? It's evens on just
Talitha, isn't it?
562
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:01,478
Yeah, but who gives a fuck, eh?
563
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,040
I'll just go say hi to Paula.
Yeah.
564
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,078
See you in a bit.
565
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,518
James! How are you doing?
566
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,278
Happy birthday. Thanks.
567
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,998
You absolute plonker.
Oh, we didn't know...
568
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,440
Of course he did.
569
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:18,398
Two beers.
570
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,160
Do you thank he did?
571
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:29,160
TANNOY: The session is now resuming
in Court Two. Courtroom Two.
572
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,158
First,
573
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,758
the pornographic history.
574
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,318
I'm certainly not going to allow
575
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,838
witnesses discussing Talitha's
sexual behaviour in pornography
576
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,638
to be taken as
evidence of her own preferences.
577
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,118
From a question of Lydia Vendler,
578
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,118
I have given
this very careful thought
579
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:51,998
and I am going
to allow her evidence.
580
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,158
My Lady, if I might...
Conserve your energy, Miss Hemmings,
581
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:59,598
that is my decision having carefully
considered the pros and cons,
582
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,878
but I should
warn the prosecution
583
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,758
I will be watching very
carefully for anything I think
584
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,918
is leading the witness.
585
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,038
Now, I understand the first witness
today is...
586
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,078
Lucinda Imogen Bright.
587
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:14,678
Thank you, Miss Bright.
588
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,198
Mr Reynolds?
589
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,758
Miss Bright, I'd like to start just
by taking you through the reasons
590
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:24,158
behind your complaint to the college
authorities about Dhillon Harwood.
591
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,118
It was very hard to describe.
592
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:27,240
Of course.
593
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:34,118
Did he ever take any photos
and videos of you without consent?
594
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:35,680
Yes.
595
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,238
And did he ever turn
up at inappropriate times
596
00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:42,838
when you were not expecting him?
Yes.
597
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:47,238
And he would leave me with presents,
like those French China clowns.
598
00:36:47,240 --> 00:36:49,758
You mean Pierrot?
Yeah, and it weirded me out.
599
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,238
Sometimes he said that he hated
possessions and that he wanted
600
00:36:53,240 --> 00:36:55,040
to, like, leave me all of his.
601
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:03,320
Was there any...sexually
inappropriate behaviour?
602
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,080
No.
603
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,358
Yes.
604
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,878
But that wasn't part of my
complaint.
605
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,358
My Lady...
606
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,598
Stop there, please, Mr Reynolds.
607
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,238
Members of the jury,
608
00:37:19,240 --> 00:37:22,598
a matter of law has arisen
and we will now ask you
609
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,800
to return to your room.
610
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,720
I didn't.
It wasn't like that at all.
611
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,238
He started having sex with her while
she was still sleeping.
612
00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:38,518
I didn't know that, though.
613
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:39,838
We'd already had sex.
614
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,798
Look, she's a nutter, everybody know
that... She's a woman!
615
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,158
Any woman can be sexually
assaulted, including the nutters!
616
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,678
I'd just assumed because we were
already in bed together
617
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,118
and she was letting me...
And the lie about the condom?
618
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:52,638
I misunderstood.
619
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:53,998
Misunderstood?
620
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,038
How the hell do you misunderstand
"Are you wearing a condom?"
621
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:58,878
OK, let's not get too emotional.
622
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,758
The judge has ruled it inadmissible
as it didn't form part
623
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,638
of the complaint at the time.
624
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,638
The jury
will be suspicious, though.
625
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,598
Oh, she's a complete liar.
626
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,478
I'm going to have to go hard at her.
Really?
627
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,958
She's bad for Dhillon.
628
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,278
Sit it out if
you're faint-hearted, Meera,
629
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,120
but we have no choice here.
630
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:33,558
Miss Bright, I think it's correct
to say that you've had your fair
631
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,878
share of internet conflicts.
632
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,078
Please be more specific
with your question, Miss Baria.
633
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,438
How are we supposed to evaluate
a "fair share" in this day and age?
634
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,718
You're quite right, My Lady.
That was too vague.
635
00:38:45,720 --> 00:38:49,718
You once, for example, gave
the personal details
636
00:38:49,720 --> 00:38:53,238
of an adversary online
in a practice known as 'doxing'.
637
00:38:53,240 --> 00:38:54,718
I deleted it.
638
00:38:54,720 --> 00:38:56,958
Could you tell the
court what that was about?
639
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,078
So at the time, I was pretty
into witchcraft.
640
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,638
I'm sorry, could you just speak up
a tiny bit for the jury?
641
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,158
You were quite into..? Witchcraft.
642
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,118
It's a thing, you know? But, like...
643
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,918
But there was a dispute
where you claimed another student
644
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:14,038
was "negatively affecting
the energy of the full moon".
645
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:15,438
Well, yeah, because he was.
646
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:16,918
Where's all this going?
647
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,878
That student, also Asian,
made a complaint against you
648
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,838
that included an
allegation of racial harassment.
649
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:24,958
Am I correct?
650
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,878
He was half-Malaysian, but...
And that was upheld. Am I correct?
651
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,480
Yes.
652
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,640
Do you still consider
yourself to be a witch?
653
00:39:36,720 --> 00:39:39,598
I consider it to be a legitimate
identity, yeah.
654
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:43,558
You believe being a racist witch
a legitimate identity?
655
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,118
What? No, I didn't... My Lady...
656
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:46,278
Miss Baria, please.
657
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:50,918
Let's just leave it as somebody who
enjoys a complete fantasy, then,
658
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,558
as the college disciplinary
panel concluded
659
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,680
in the case of Dhillon Harwood.
660
00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:02,480
Thank you, Miss Bright.
661
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:10,878
Wow!
662
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,278
SHE LAUGHS
663
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,958
I just can't believe he had sex
with Lucinda Bright!
664
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,358
Not quite sure that's the big
picture here.
665
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,038
No, you're right.
666
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,080
I can't believe
he never told me about it.
667
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,278
Can you believe this sexual assault?
668
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,118
Why it's not, really.
669
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:33,718
I mean, yes,
I suppose you could say,
670
00:40:33,720 --> 00:40:35,718
but there's
a lot worse than that.
671
00:40:35,720 --> 00:40:38,240
That's a debate for another
time, but...
672
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,640
Do you consider what happened
to you to be worse than that?
673
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:49,320
Orange.
674
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,758
I've been
thinking about the festival
675
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,638
and I was definitely
wearing orange top. Right.
676
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:56,878
We already know that.
677
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,758
Which means I would have worn
the bracelet because I liked it
678
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,798
with that top. OK, good.
679
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,558
Keep thinking.
680
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,840
And also, anyone
else who might have photos?
681
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,440
I'm OK until Jackson Browne.
682
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:17,278
I remember him doing Stay,
which was amazing.
683
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,198
Maurice Williams and The Zodiacs
did the original.
684
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,158
I did not know that.
685
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:23,920
Well, now you do.
686
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,800
With what happened to me,
by the way.
687
00:41:33,720 --> 00:41:35,560
Stealth was never the issue.
688
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,720
Talitha was abused as a child.
689
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,000
By her mother's friends.
Shit!
690
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,240
Has Talitha..? Sort of.
691
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,320
We're getting there.
692
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,118
OK, so what's the issue here?
693
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:17,118
The issue is the case
against Talitha is very strong. Um.
694
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,838
The scarf, the bracelet,
the history.
695
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,398
And you're
thinking of using her abuse
696
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,598
to change
the jury's perception of her.
697
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,478
Risky.
698
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,398
Damian Campbell won't let me.
699
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:31,518
SHE SIGHS
700
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,838
You do not want a big
falling out with Damian.
701
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,438
Uh... Bite the hand that feeds
us, you mean?
702
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,560
Yeah, I do mean exactly that.
703
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,078
So Lucinda was a bit of a let-down.
704
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,158
Yeah, Dhillon's defence
battered her. It wasn't pretty.
705
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,798
The Establishment
Gets Ruthless Lawyers Shocker.
706
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,558
Aye. I don't think Meera Harwood
enjoyed it very much.
707
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,118
If her son gets away with this,
she'll learn to live with it.
708
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:57,838
He won't.
709
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,838
Unlike Cassidy,
I don't just want Talitha.
710
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,038
She needs to get
that prejudice out of sight.
711
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,840
On that note, Jenny, I heard
something a bit disturbing. Mm-hm?
712
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,638
So Andy Lowell was shit-faced at
Cassidy's birthday party.
713
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,398
At a cops' piss up? Surely not?!
714
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,278
I get the impression that some
of the 'not relevant' material
715
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,080
could stand another look.
716
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,520
It could always stand another look.
717
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,758
The establishment has got
good lawyers, James,
718
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,440
so let them request it.
719
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,558
Concentrate on what we want.
720
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,160
A double conviction.
721
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,200
Yeah.
722
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,838
CHATTER AND CLICKING CAMERAS
723
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,038
How are you feeling today?
724
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,280
Do you have any comments?
725
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,118
TV: The mother of Hannah Ellis
726
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,078
arrived at Bristol Central Crown
Court today
727
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,078
to testify in the case against
Talitha Campbell
728
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:08,678
and Dhillon Harwood.
729
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,198
She's expected to
reveal the details of a visit
730
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:15,320
she received from Dr Stephen Vendler
on the day he died.
731
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,998
I'm going to be billing you by
the minute, Cleo.
732
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,318
Cash monies up front.
733
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:40,720
I'm on legal aid.
734
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,638
You're a hard man to track
down, Troy.
735
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,758
Yeah, I've been sorting
out some business in Cannock.
736
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,840
Um! I'll start
preparing the mitigation plea.
737
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,958
So you came up with the name
Lady Tease? Right.
738
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:03,158
How come?
739
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,078
Well, Lady T at first
740
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,760
because her name's Talitha
and she's posh.
741
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:14,198
Lady Tease when she wouldn't
let me fuck her.
742
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,438
OK, I see the progression.
743
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,998
Hey, them papers making
her out to be some kind of slag,
744
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,438
but actually she
could be pretty picky.
745
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,640
So you and Talitha
were kind of friends?
746
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,838
Are we friends, Cleo?
No.
747
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,480
No, see?
748
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,598
I bet you're pretty picky
as well, aren't you?
749
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,518
Rein it in, Troy.
750
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:39,398
Look, some punters can tolerate more
than others, do you get me?
751
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,198
Did you?
752
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,838
I'd more time for Talitha than
most of them students.
753
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:48,678
Why? Because she didn't try and go
all street on me,
754
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,198
like some of them.
755
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,478
It's downright
embarrassing the way they talk,
756
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,040
as if they didn't grow
up in Custard-upon-Thames.
757
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,758
You admired that about her.
758
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:01,198
Yeah, I did.
759
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,478
It's why I won't go to them scum
from the papers,
760
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,358
tell them all what Tals was
like in bed and that.
761
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,078
Fair play.
762
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,078
You can't, though, can you?
763
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,240
Oh, more's the pity, Cleo!
764
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,440
But I've got an eye for
a bull-shitter.
765
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,478
Can spot them from a distance.
766
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,640
And Tal, she is what she is and she
made me laugh, but...
767
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:27,640
She ain't no bull-shitter.
768
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,120
So what about the credit cards?
769
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,198
What about them?
770
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,118
Did Talitha give them to you?
771
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:38,518
Nah.
772
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,240
Did Dhillon? No.
773
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,598
You land me with a witness summons,
I blame everything on Talitha,
774
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,080
let's get that clear for a start.
775
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,000
Go on.
776
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,958
Troy Manor's sister.
Mm-hm.
777
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,878
She was helping him sell drugs
at the ball, but at some point Jodie
778
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,558
makes her way to the cloakroom...
779
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,918
Saw the bags and spotted
an opportunity.
780
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:18,358
Got interrupted when she had nicked
just one or two.
781
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,238
Hannah probably didn't even notice,
782
00:47:20,240 --> 00:47:23,718
although these days you can
just stop your card through an app,
783
00:47:23,720 --> 00:47:25,918
which is what
the others probably did.
784
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,638
Hannah's was passed to a contact
in the West Midlands,
785
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,718
where it was
mainly used at stations.
786
00:47:30,720 --> 00:47:33,038
We can check out any others,
but there's no point
787
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:34,238
in him giving evidence.
788
00:47:34,240 --> 00:47:36,878
Complete waste of time.
789
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,038
Not at all.
790
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:39,998
One, the card issue was bugging me,
791
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:41,718
so now we know.
792
00:47:41,720 --> 00:47:43,838
And two,
793
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:45,278
he likes Talitha.
794
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,398
Oh, fantastic (!)
795
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,758
A reference from
some drug-dealing scummer.
796
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,598
Not all drug-dealers are scummers
and he likes Talitha
797
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,240
because "she's not a bull-shitter".
798
00:47:57,240 --> 00:47:59,478
And "funny".
799
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:03,358
Funny. She can be quite funny,
actually.
800
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:04,438
HE SIGHS
801
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:09,838
And it made me realise there's a
Talitha the jury might respond to.
802
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:11,238
Risky.
803
00:48:11,240 --> 00:48:14,358
We're past the point of non-risky
options a long time ago.
804
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,678
So she gets up on stage.
805
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,798
What's her opening gag?
806
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,238
The truth.
807
00:48:21,240 --> 00:48:23,038
About?
808
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:24,440
Everything.
809
00:48:26,240 --> 00:48:28,240
Well, that is risky.
810
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,960
For all concerned.
811
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:39,960
So...
812
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:46,558
..tread very carefully
and always consider the
813
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,598
wider picture.
814
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:52,560
My family reputation,
it's very important.
815
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:57,238
Not to mention your business image.
816
00:48:57,240 --> 00:48:58,800
Not to mention that.
817
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:06,958
Can I tell you what won't be funny,
though, Cleo?
818
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:08,318
Go on.
819
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,598
If you make me unhappy,
820
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:14,278
your exile after the Hargreaves case
821
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:18,158
will feel like a holiday
in the Maldives.
822
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:22,000
There are definitely no
third chances.
823
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,440
And I'll bear that in mind.
824
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:38,918
ON TAPE: What make of scarf is it?
825
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,078
I don't know,
I got it a charity shop.
826
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,078
Can't find in your flat.
827
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:44,278
Maybe I lost it.
828
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,160
Where? If I knew that,
it wouldn't be lost.
829
00:49:54,960 --> 00:50:00,760
SHE SINGS
830
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:27,478
REPORTER: Today, the focus of
the trial shifts towards allegations
831
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,998
of harassment on
the university campus
832
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:31,998
and the role of Dr Stephen Vendler,
833
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,558
who was responsible for hearing
an earlier case
834
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,438
against Dylan Harwood.
835
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,638
The complication being, of course,
that no-one can question
836
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:43,800
Stephen Vendler due to
the fact that he took his own life.
837
00:50:53,720 --> 00:50:58,518
Mrs Vendler, you saw your husband
before he left
838
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,878
for Andrea Ellis' home?
839
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:01,998
Yes.
840
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,238
And did you see
him again after that?
841
00:51:04,240 --> 00:51:05,598
No.
842
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,798
How would you
describe his condition?
843
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:10,080
Very bad.
844
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,638
He was overcome with worry
about our family in the wake
845
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,438
of the press reports.
846
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,478
And he believed he had
caused the death of Hannah Ellis.
847
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:19,638
Why?
848
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,318
Because he had told the student
he was sleeping with that
849
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,558
Hannah Ellis had
complained about her friend.
850
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,798
The student being? Talitha Campbell.
851
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:28,278
And her friend being?
852
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,958
The other person in the dock with
her, I believe.
853
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,958
Anyway, apparently
she was angry. Why?
854
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:37,158
I don't know.
You would have to ask her that.
855
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,438
And you did not
see him again after that?
856
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,038
No.
857
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:45,000
He texted
shortly before he died.
858
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:50,638
Had he ever referred to
Miss Campbell
859
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,318
before the newspapers
got hold of their affair?
860
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,758
No, not really.
861
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,638
He talked about Hannah, though.
862
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:02,638
He liked her and was extremely
impressed by her.
863
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,078
Exacerbating his remorse?
864
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:06,838
I don't know.
865
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:08,840
But that seems a fair assumption.
866
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:12,278
OK.
867
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,080
Thank you, Mrs Vendler.
868
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,438
He did tell me something
about Talitha, though,
869
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:19,758
after the news broke.
870
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:21,198
Ah, My Lady...
871
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:26,318
May I remind you that you may give
evidence as to what your late
872
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,958
husband told you Talitha had said,
but not...
873
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,518
He said she had no soul
874
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,760
and was preternaturally cruel.
875
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:38,078
He also told me Talitha had
discussed her fantasies with him,
876
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,598
which involved killing another
girl during sex.
877
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,678
My Lady! That is enough.
878
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,838
Are you sure about this?
Mr Reynolds!
879
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:47,200
Quite sure.
880
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:55,880
No further questions.
881
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:11,278
Naturally, Mrs Vendler, you
feel anger at Talitha Campbell.
882
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,838
I'm not sure it's natural
and it's certainly not correct.
883
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:19,158
You don't feel anger at the person
who destroyed your marriage?
884
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,280
She had no obligations to me.
885
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:27,598
And so we are just supposed
to take your word for the fact
886
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:31,878
that your husband told
you that his lover admitted
887
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:37,478
to fantasising about exactly
the crime of which she is accused?
888
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:41,160
Yes, I am asking you to take
my word for it.
889
00:53:44,240 --> 00:53:47,518
You're a part-time poet,
I believe.
890
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:51,958
Someone used
to imaginative flights.
891
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:53,118
Yes.
892
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,598
And also quite capable
of remembering something
893
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,478
my husband said.
894
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:00,238
It's part of your job to embellish
things, isn't it?
895
00:54:00,240 --> 00:54:02,598
It's part of your job, as well.
896
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:06,318
But I imagine you can still sustain
a reasonably honest conversation
897
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:07,998
at the dinner table.
898
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:13,038
What I'm getting at is... I'm well
aware of what you're getting at.
899
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:16,038
It's not your everyday conversation,
is it?
900
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:17,638
"Soulless"?
901
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,398
"Preternaturally cruel"?
902
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:24,198
Don't these words
sound a little invented?
903
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,520
A little poetic license?
904
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:31,518
Mrs Vendler?
905
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,318
It wasn't a conversation.
906
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,558
Smoke signals? Sign language?
907
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:36,598
Miss Hemmings.
908
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,598
I'm sorry, My Lady, but...
909
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:39,960
It was a letter.
910
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:45,598
Um... There is no reference
to a letter...
911
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,560
From the hotel after he
fled Andrea Ellis' house.
912
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,120
It arrived after his death.
913
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:58,758
I haven't shared it with anyone
because it is deeply private.
914
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:03,400
And contains very
intimate details of our marriage.
915
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:09,358
But it will substantiate
all the evidence I have given
916
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,358
in court today
917
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,040
and I can produce
it if the court so requires.
918
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:20,518
My husband certainly believed
that both of the accused killed
919
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:21,638
Hannah Ellis...
920
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,038
SHE SINGS TO HERSELF
921
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,320
..and that
he was the indirect cause.
922
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,880
Thank you, Mrs Vendler.
We'll stop here.
923
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:37,800
Start thinking about
a plea change in mitigation.
924
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,000
She's done for.