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[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

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>> Vanessa: WELCOME TO

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"LOVE IS BLIND:

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THE LIVE REUNION!"

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WE ARE SORRY WE ARE LATE.

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WE ARE NO LONGER LIVE, BUT WE

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ARE FINALLY HERE.

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ALL OF YOU AT HOME, YOU HAVEN'T

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MISSED ANYTHING.

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BEEN SITTING ON THESE COUCHES

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NOT TALKING TO EACH OTHER SO WE

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SAVE ALL THE TEA FOR YOU.

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WE WILL TALK ABOUT THE MOST

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TALKED ABOUT MOMENTS, THE I DOS,

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THE I DON'TS, EXCLUSIVE NEVER

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NEVER-BEFORE-SEEN FOOTAGE FROM

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THE SHOW AND A SNEAK PEEK WHAT

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THE MARRIED COUPLES' HOME LIVES

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ARE LIKE.

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>> Nick: THAT'S ENOUGH

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BUSINESS UP FRONT.

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LET'S GET INTO IT.

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AUDIENCE, PLEASE GIVE OUR CAST A

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HUGE ROUND OF APPLAUSE.

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>> WE WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU

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FOR SHARING YOUR LOVE AND LIVES.

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JACKIE AND JOSH AREN'T HERE BUT

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I SAT DOWN WITH THEM FOR AN

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EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW WE WILL SHOW

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YOU LATER IN THE SHOW AND WILL

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BE JOINED BY IRINA HERE IN

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STUDIO IN JUST A BIT.

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OKAY, A 50/50 AUDIENCE.

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FIRST I WANT TO SAY HIGH BACK

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TO, MICAH, AND PAUL.

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PAUL, A LITTLE HEARTBREAK SHIRT?

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WHAT IS THAT?

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ZACK AND BLISS, LITTLE

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COORDINATION.

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HI.

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HOW ARE YOU?

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YOU ARE GOOD?

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JUDGING BY THE OUTFIT AND THE

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SOCKS, Y'ALL ARE STILL MARRIED.

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>> AND THE RINGS.

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DID THE OWL PORTRAIT MAKE IT

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INTO YOUR LOVE NEST TOGETHER?

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>> IT IS.

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WE SEE IT EVERY DAY.

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>> Nick: KWAME, CHELSEA, GREAT

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TO SEE YOU GUYS.

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LET'S GET THE BUSINESS OUT OF

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THE WAY.

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STILL HAPPILY MARRIED?

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>> YES.

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>> HAPPILY MARRIED.

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>> Nick: STILL FEEDING EACH

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OTHER STRAWBERRIES?

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>> ALL THE GOOD THINGS.

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>> Vanessa: LAST BUT CERTAINLY

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NOT LEAST, BRETT AND TIFFANY.

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[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

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STILL MADLY IN LOVE AND HAPPY

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AS EVER, I'M ASSUMING.

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>> ABSOLUTELY.

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>> Vanessa: WE ONLY DO

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90-DEGREE REFERENCES IN THIS

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FAMILY.

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>> Nick: BRECHT, LOOKING

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ESPECIALLY SHARP, DID BOUGIE

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BRETT TO GET THE SUIT

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CUSTOM-MADE?

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>> 100%.

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>> Nick: AND THE KICKS?

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>> I HAD TO WORSEN STATEMENT

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SNEAKERS.

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I WAS GOING TO SAY IT WAS A

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DELAY BECAUSE BRETT WAS GETTING

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HIS PAN PANTS FIXED.

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>> Vanessa: YOU ARE SO MADLY

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IN LOVE.

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WATCHING THE WEDDING, WE SAW YOU

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GUYS.

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IT WAS THE FAIRY TALE.

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THE FAIRY TALE HAS CONTINUED IN

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LIFE?

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>> ABSOLUTELY.

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HERE'S THE THING, ACTUALLY MOVE

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DOWN TO PORTLAND.

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HE WAS A BIG --

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IT WAS A BIG CHANGE FOR ME.

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THE SUPPORT, NEVER STOP DATING.

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THAT IS SOMETHING BRETT IS GOOD

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WITH.

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>> Vanessa: YOU KEEP IT HOT

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AND SPICY BUT YOU NEED TO GIVE

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YOURSELF SOME CREDIT, TIFFANY.

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I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER ON

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YOUR WEDDING DAY AFTER Y'ALL GOT

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MARRIED, YOU ARE VERY EAGER TO

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GO TO THE BRIDAL SUITE.

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WANTED TO SNEAK AWAY SO BAD.

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THIS IS OUR NEVER BEFORE SEEN

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CLIP OF WHEN THEY HIT THE BRIDAL

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SUITE.

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ROLL THE TAPE.

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>> TIFFANY?

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[MUSIC PLAYING]

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[SIGHS]

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[APPLAUSE]

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>> Vanessa: OF COURSE I WAS

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JOKING.

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I'M NOT GOING TO AIR YOUR DIRTY

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LAUNDRY.

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DID YOU GO TO THE BRIDAL SUITE?

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>> GET A QUICKIE END?

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>> Vanessa: NO, WHEN YOU GET

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MARRIED.

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>> CONSUMMATE.

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>> Vanessa: IS THIS TMI?

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>> I WANTED TO BUT I LOVE

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MESSING AROUND WITH HIM.

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I'M QUITE THE JOKESTER.

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>> WE ARE BOTH JOKESTERS.

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>> Vanessa: YOU DIDN'T WANT TO

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MESS UP THE SUIT?

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I WILL SAY THAT MOMENT OF YOU

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FALLING ASLEEP, TIFFANY, IS

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GOING TO GO DOWN IN THE

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"LOVE IS BLIND" ARCHIVES.

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YOU'RE PROBABLY NEVER GOING TO

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LIVE IT DOWN BUT WE WANT TO KNOW

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WHAT WAS GOING ON IN YOUR MIND

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WHEN YOUR GIRLS WOKE YOU UP.

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WHAT WERE YOU THINKING?

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>> WELL, I ACTUALLY DIDN'T

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REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED.

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I KNEW I SHUT MY EYES AND NOSE

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LIKE, OKAY, HIS VOICE WAS

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SOOTHING.

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WE WERE PLAYING MICAH GAME

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BEFORE THEN.

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WE WERE PLAYING A GAME BEFORE

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THAT.

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IT WAS AN EMOTIONAL RELEASE.

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I SAID WHAT I NEEDED TO SAY.

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YEAH, AND THEN I GUESS I KNOCKED

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OUT FOR A LITTLE WHILE.

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I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW LONG IT

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WAS.

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>> IT WAS LIKE 20 MINUTES.

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>> Vanessa: THAT'S CALLED A

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POWER NAP.

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GET IT, GIRL.

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>> NOT MY FINEST MOMENT BUT MY

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GIRL, SHE WOKE ME UP.

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WE WERE ALWAYS SINGING THAT SONG

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AND THE PODS AND I GUESS SHE

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KNEW WHAT I WAS GOING TO WAKE UP

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TO.

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I DIDN'T KNOW I WAS GOING TO

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WAKE UP DANCING.

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I SAW IT WITH THE REST OF THE

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FANS, I WAS LIKE "OH, MY GOSH,

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IT JUST HIT ME WHEN I REALIZED

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I MISSED MY MOMENT.

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>> Nick: MARSHALL, I'VE GOT TO

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ASK YOU.

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I HEARD YOU TAKE RESPONSIBILITY

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FOR THE TWO OF THEM GETTING

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TOGETHER.

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HOW TRUE IS THAT?

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>> 100% ON ME.

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[LAUGHTER]

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NOT 100% BUT I WILL SAY TO

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>> AFTER TIFFANY AND I DECIDED

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TO CALL IT QUITS, NOT REALLY

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CALL IT QUITS JUST FOCUS ON

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OTHER PEOPLE, I WENT TO BRETT

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AND I WAS LIKE TELLING BRETT,

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TIFFANY IS A WONDERFUL WOMAN.

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I FELT LIKE I HAD KNOWN BRECHT

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BEFORE ALL OF THIS.

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WE HAD INSTANTANEOUSLY

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CONNECTED.

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I FELT LIKE TIFFANY WAS THE

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RIGHT PERSON FOR BRETT AND BRETT

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WAS THE RIGHT PERSON FOR

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TIFFANY.

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THERE'S MORE TO THAT STORY.

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THERE WERE A WHOLE BUNCH OF

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EMOTIONS SWIRLING.

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I SAID TO TIFFANY, YOUR PERSON

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IS HERE AND YOU WILL GET THROUGH

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THIS AND LOOK WHERE THEY ARE

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>> Nick: LET'S HEAR FROM HER

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PERSON.

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BRETT, I'M CURIOUS, WHEN YOU

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THINK BACK TO HOW THIS ALL

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STARTED WAY BACK IN THE PODS.

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WHAT'S YOUR FAVORITE MEMORY?

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WHAT'S YOUR FAVORITE MEMORY OF

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YOUR LOVE STORY TOGETHER?

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>> WITHOUT A DOUBT I WOULD SAY

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OUR LAST DINNER BEFORE THE

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WEDDING WHERE I SURPRISED HER

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WITH THE PORTRAITS.

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FOR ME, THAT WAS, OUT OF ALL THE

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MOMENTS, THE MOMENT I WAS MOST

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LOOKING FORWARD TO, BECAUSE OF

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THE STORY BEHIND IT, IN THE SHOW

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THERE IS A SCENE WHERE TIFFANY

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IS LIKE CRYING ON THE COUCH.

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SHE IS OVERWHELMED BY ALL THE

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PLANNING AND WE ARE SITTING LIKE

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WE ARE NOW AND I AM TELLING HER

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HEY, IT'S OKAY TO FEEL THAT WAY.

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AND THAT DAY I CAME BACK FROM

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PORTLAND.

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I DROVE THREE HOURS UP, FUN

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NUGGET.

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IT WASN'T MENTIONED IN THE SHOW

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BUT I DON'T LIVE IN SEATTLE.

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I LIVE IN PORTLAND.

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SO I DROVE UP THREE HOURS IN THE

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MORNING AND THEN DROVE UP THREE

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HOURS BACK IN THE SAME DAY FROM

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WORK.

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I WANTED TO TAKE HER PORTRAIT.

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SHE SAID YES.

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TO MAKE HER FEEL BETTER.

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I KNEW THAT THE LAST THING SHE

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WOULD EXPECT WOULD BE SURPRISED

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WITH THE PICTURES FROM THE SHOOT

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AND HER REACTION, AS I'VE

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STARTED DOING PHOTOGRAPHY IN

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2020.

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I'VE NEVER HAD MY WORK FRAMED.

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>> Vanessa: WHAT DO YOU THINK

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ABOUT THE PHOTOGRAPHY OF KWAME

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AND CHELSEA?

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HOW IS THAT MOMENT?

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>> I HAVEN'T SEEN THE PICTURES.

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>> Vanessa: YOU SAW THE WHOLE

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BOOK.

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WE LOVED THAT.

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YOU LOOK VERY COORDINATED, AND

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STILL VERY MUCH IN LOVE.

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I AM GOING TO SAY THAT IT'S A

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SIGNATURE PINK.

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YOU'VE GOT ALL THE SHADES.

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50 SHADES OF PINK.

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WAS IT LIKE GETTING YOUR

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ENGAGEMENT PHOTO SHOOT TOGETHER

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FOR THE WHOLE WORLD TO SEE?

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WHAT WAS GOING ON IN YOUR MINDS?

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>> WE LOVED IT.

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WE LOVED IT, IT WAS A DREAM COME

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TRUE FOR ME.

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WITH THE VIEWERS DIDN'T SEE WAS

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THAT WE CONNECTED ABOUT CALVIN

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KLEIN IN THE PODS BEFORE ALL OF

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THAT AND WE HAD A DATE AND IT

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WAS CALLED THE CALVIN KLEIN

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DATE.

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>> CHELSEA ACTUALLY GOT ME A

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GIFT.

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I OPENED THE BOX AND IT'S A PAIR

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OF BOXERS AND I AM SITTING

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THERE, WHAT DO I DO WITH THESE?

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SHE'S LIKE, GO PUT THEM ON.

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>> HERE?

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I WAS LIKE, YES.

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>> I LEFT THE POD COME UP WITH

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THE BOXERS ON, CAME BACK IN AND

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WE HAD OUR DATE.

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>> IN THE CALVINS.

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>> Nick:HOUSE CALVIN KLEIN SENT
YOU SOME

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FREE UNDERWEAR.

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>> MY MOM SHOPPED FOR ME FOR MY

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FUTURE HUSBAND, MY MYSTERY MAN

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HUSBAND'S UNDERWEAR.

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SHE KNEW THIS WAS GOING TO

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HAPPEN FOR ME.

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>> Vanessa: THE PAIR THAT YOU

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GAVE HIM WASN'T THE PAY OR YOUR

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MOM BOUGHT?

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>> NO, WE JUST WENT TOGETHER.

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>> Vanessa: JUST MAKING SURE.

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>> IT DID ARRIVE AFTER WE LEFT A

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FILM AND HAD TO SEND THEM TO THE

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STUDIO.

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IT WAS A WHOLE THING.

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>> Vanessa: DID YOU PRINT THE

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PHOTOS?

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>> WE WILL BE DEFINITELY.

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DISPLAYED IN OUR HOUSE.

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>> THEY ARE GOING TO GO ON THE

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WALL.

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THAT DATE, BY THE WAY, WAS THE

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DAY I KNEW CHELSEA WAS THE ONE.

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I WALKED BACK IN AND I ACTUALLY

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HAVE THOSE BOXERS ON RIGHT NOW.

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>> Vanessa: A LOVELY PAIR OF

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UNDERWEAR.

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LUCKY PERRY OF UNDERWEAR.

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>> SO MANY COUPLES THAT I DO.

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THERE WAS A RECORD NUMBER OF

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LOVE TRIANGLES WE'RE GOING TO

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GET TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF

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THEM.

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DON'T YOU WORRY.

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FIRST WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT

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CHELSEA, KWAME, AND MICAH.

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>> Vanessa: HERE'S A NEVER

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BEFORE SCENE CLIP.

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>> HI.

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>> HI, LITTLE FRIEND.

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YOU'RE JUST A LITTLE TEDDY BEAR.

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>> [LAUGHS]

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I KNOW.

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YEAH, YOU HAVEN'T MET HER, HUH?

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>> NO.

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>> NOW, WAIT.

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WHAT'S YOUR DOG'S NAME AGAIN?

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>> THIS IS ROCKY.

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HI.

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WHAT'S YOUR NAME, BABY?

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>> HOW ARE YOU GUYS DOING?

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>> MOVED IN?

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WE JUST GOT BACK, AND --

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>> THERE'S A LOT GOING ON NOW.

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>> YEAH, WE HAVEN'T REALLY SEEN

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EACH OTHER SINCE MEXICO.

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>> I KNOW WE KIND OF LEFT, LIKE,

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ON A WEIRD NOTE.

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AND I THINK THERE WAS, LIKE,

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SOME CONFUSION OVER, LIKE, SOME

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STUFF THAT WAS, LIKE, SAID.

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AND I KNOW SOME OF THE GIRLS

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SAID THAT YOU WERE, LIKE, MAYBE

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FEELING, LIKE, UPSET.

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>> YEAH, I MEAN, I'D LOVE TO

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HEAR, LIKE, YOUR TAKE ON WHAT

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HAPPENED --

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>> MM-HMM.

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>> AT THE WELCOME PARTY.

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>> I, LIKE, MADE A SUPER

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UNFORTUNATE JOKE THAT, LIKE, I

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THOUGHT WAS GOING TO BE TAKEN AS

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FUNNY, BUT IT WASN'T.

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AND IN THAT REGARDS, LIKE, I DO

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REALLY REGRET THAT BECAUSE I

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COULD TELL --

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>> AND WHAT WAS THE JOKE?

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>> I THINK IT WAS SOMETHING,

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LIKE, TO THE TUNE OF, LIKE -- I

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DON'T KNOW.

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LIKE, CHEERS TO, LIKE, A FAILED

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PROPOSAL OR SOMETHING.

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LIKE --

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>> IT PROCEEDED TO BE A

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20-MINUTE CONVERSATION.

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>> MM-HMM.

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>> RIGHT?

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IT JUST DIDN'T NEED TO BE --

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>> YEAH.

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>> IN THAT WAY.

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>> YEAH.

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>> IN MY OPINION.

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>> HE WAS, LIKE, UPSET, AND

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THAT'S WHY HE WANTED TO TALK.

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>> TOTALLY.

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>> BUT THEN, WHEN YOU, LIKE,

377
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CAME OVER, IT WAS MORE TO JUST,

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LIKE, CHAT MORE.

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AND SO I FEEL LIKE, FROM AN

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OUTSIDE PERSPECTIVE, I WOULD

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LOOK AT THAT AND BE LIKE, WHAT

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THE HELL IS GOING ON OVER THERE?

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>> WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?

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>> YEAH.

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SO I TOTALLY --

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>> AND I DID.

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>> THAT'S HOW IT FELT TO ME.

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>> AND I WAS.

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AND I WAS REALLY UNCOMFORTABLE.

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>> MM-HMM.

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>> FROM WHAT YOU TOLD ME IN THE

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PODS, YOU WERE BREAKING UP WITH

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HIM.

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>> MM-HMM.

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>> AND FROM WHAT HE TOLD ME, HE

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WAS BREAKING UP WITH YOU.

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SO YOU GUYS WERE, LIKE, BREAKING

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UP WITH EACH OTHER --

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>> MM-HMM.

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>> IN YOUR OWN WAYS.

401
00:12:37,549 --> 00:12:38,299
>> YEAH.

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>> I DON'T KNOW YOUR GUYS'

403
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RELATIONSHIP.

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AND I DIDN'T -- OBVIOUSLY, I

405
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ONLY KNEW THE CONNECTION THAT I

406
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HAD WITH KWAME, RIGHT?

407
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OF COURSE.

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>> I THINK I WOULD'VE -- YEAH

409
00:12:43,597 --> 00:12:44,431
>> AND JUST WANTED TO BE

410
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RESPECTFUL TO ME AND TO PAUL.

411
00:12:45,014 --> 00:12:45,848
>> 100%.

412
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>> WE BOTH FELL IN LOVE WITH THE

413
00:12:46,307 --> 00:12:46,807
SAME GUY.

414
00:12:46,849 --> 00:12:47,684
>> MM-HMM.

415
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>> AND TO SAY THAT WE WEREN'T

416
00:12:48,602 --> 00:12:48,976
THREATENED BY EACH OTHER WOULD

417
00:12:49,018 --> 00:12:49,728
BE A LIE.

418
00:12:49,768 --> 00:12:50,604
>> I DO APOLOGIZE IF THAT

419
00:12:50,645 --> 00:12:51,479
COMMENT, LIKE, STIRRED UP, LIKE,

420
00:12:51,521 --> 00:12:52,397
CRAP FOR LITERALLY NO REASON.

421
00:12:52,439 --> 00:12:53,189
LIKE, THAT WASN'T MY INTENTION.

422
00:12:53,231 --> 00:12:53,898
>> WELL, I APPRECIATE IT.

423
00:12:53,940 --> 00:12:54,441
>> YEAH, WELL, ANYWAYS.

424
00:12:54,482 --> 00:12:55,316
>> THANK YOU.

425
00:12:55,358 --> 00:12:55,692
>> I'LL LET YOU GET BACK TO YOUR

426
00:12:55,734 --> 00:12:56,067
NIGHT.

427
00:12:56,109 --> 00:12:57,193
>> OKAY.

428
00:12:57,235 --> 00:12:58,695
BUT I LOVE YOU AND --

429
00:12:58,737 --> 00:13:02,574
>> OKAY.

430
00:13:02,616 --> 00:13:04,117
>> Vanessa: CHELSEA, IT

431
00:13:04,158 --> 00:13:05,076
APPEARED THAT YOU AND MICAH HAD

432
00:13:05,118 --> 00:13:07,621
MADE UP BUT THAT WAS BEFORE YOU

433
00:13:07,662 --> 00:13:09,414
SAW THE ACTUAL FOOTAGE WITH

434
00:13:09,456 --> 00:13:12,417
AUDIO AND SOME MORE VISUAL OF

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MICAH AND KWAME'S MEXICO

436
00:13:14,377 --> 00:13:15,086
POOLSIDE CHAT.

437
00:13:15,128 --> 00:13:16,588
WHAT WAS IT LIKE WHEN YOU

438
00:13:16,630 --> 00:13:17,505
WATCHED THAT?

439
00:13:17,547 --> 00:13:19,882
>> IT WAS DIFFICULT, VERY

440
00:13:19,924 --> 00:13:21,134
UNCOMFORTABLE.

441
00:13:21,175 --> 00:13:21,718
BUT WE HAD HAD THAT

442
00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:23,386
CONVERSATION.

443
00:13:23,428 --> 00:13:25,972
MICAH AND I HAD HAD RESOLUTION.

444
00:13:26,013 --> 00:13:26,847
TOGETHER.

445
00:13:26,889 --> 00:13:28,767
KWAME AND I HAD HAD HOURS LONG

446
00:13:28,807 --> 00:13:30,602
CONVERSATION THAT EVENING.

447
00:13:30,644 --> 00:13:32,604
YOU SAW A LITTLE SNIPPET OF OUR

448
00:13:32,646 --> 00:13:33,854
CONVERSATION.

449
00:13:33,896 --> 00:13:35,982
SO WE HAD MOVED ON.

450
00:13:36,023 --> 00:13:38,401
WE WERE HAPPILY MARRIED RIGHT

451
00:13:38,443 --> 00:13:39,277
NOW.

452
00:13:39,319 --> 00:13:40,737
THAT WAS AN IMMATURE COMMENT.

453
00:13:40,779 --> 00:13:42,781
SHE UNDERSTANDS THAT.

454
00:13:42,821 --> 00:13:44,783
I BELIEVE THAT SHE HAS GROWN.

455
00:13:44,823 --> 00:13:46,200
AND I DO REALLY, REALLY WANT HER

456
00:13:46,242 --> 00:13:48,953
TO BE HAPPY.

457
00:13:48,995 --> 00:13:50,789
>> IF I MAY, I THINK THERE IS

458
00:13:50,829 --> 00:13:52,039
SOMETHING I NEED TO SAY ABOUT

459
00:13:52,081 --> 00:13:54,083
IT.

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THERE IS THREE LAYERS, THERE IS

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AN APOLOGY THAT NEEDS TO BE

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SAID.

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FIRST AND FOREMOST, THAT WAS

464
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REALLY HARD FOR ME TO WATCH.

465
00:14:01,299 --> 00:14:02,425
REALLY HARD LOOKING BACK AT THAT

466
00:14:02,467 --> 00:14:04,843
BEING THERE WITH MY LIFE AS

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00:14:04,885 --> 00:14:06,137
WELL, IT WAS INCREDIBLY IMMATURE

468
00:14:06,179 --> 00:14:08,014
FOR ME TO REACT THAT WAY.

469
00:14:08,055 --> 00:14:09,265
IT'S INCREDIBLY UNFAIR TO MY

470
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WIFE AND I'M SO SORRY, BABY.

471
00:14:13,852 --> 00:14:14,979
SO GLAD THAT WE --

472
00:14:15,021 --> 00:14:16,773
I'M SORRY I LET MY EGO GET THE

473
00:14:16,815 --> 00:14:18,483
BEST OF ME IN THAT MOMENT.

474
00:14:18,525 --> 00:14:20,901
I'LL NEVER DO THAT AGAIN.

475
00:14:20,943 --> 00:14:22,612
THE SECOND LAYER IS I NEED TO

476
00:14:22,654 --> 00:14:25,323
SAY SORRY TO CHELSEA'S FAMILY.

477
00:14:25,365 --> 00:14:26,407
IT'S NOT AN ACCURATE

478
00:14:26,449 --> 00:14:27,283
REPRESENTATION OF OUR

479
00:14:27,325 --> 00:14:28,159
RELATIONSHIP AND DEFTLY NOT OF

480
00:14:28,201 --> 00:14:29,035
ME.

481
00:14:29,076 --> 00:14:30,953
I DEFINITELY LET THAT MOMENT GET

482
00:14:30,995 --> 00:14:32,330
THE BEST OF ME.

483
00:14:32,372 --> 00:14:33,373
THEY NEED TO KNOW HOW MUCH I

484
00:14:33,414 --> 00:14:35,416
CARE AND LOVE FOR MY LIFE.

485
00:14:35,458 --> 00:14:38,085
SHE MEANS THE WORLD TO ME.

486
00:14:38,127 --> 00:14:39,253
A THIRD LAYER IS FOR ALL THE

487
00:14:39,295 --> 00:14:40,880
PEOPLE WHO ARE OUT THERE WHO

488
00:14:40,921 --> 00:14:42,382
BELIEVE IN US WHO SAW THAT AND

489
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IT GAVE THEM A REALLY NEGATIVE

490
00:14:44,509 --> 00:14:45,385
LIGHT.

491
00:14:45,426 --> 00:14:49,096
ALL IN ALL, I ACCEPT COMPLETELY

492
00:14:49,138 --> 00:14:51,391
WHAT HAPPENED AND I KNOW THAT I

493
00:14:51,432 --> 00:14:52,600
NEEDED TO GROW TO GET PAST

494
00:14:52,642 --> 00:14:55,144
MOMENTS LIKE THAT AND I THINK

495
00:14:55,186 --> 00:14:56,688
I'M IN A BETTER SPOT AND IT PUTS

496
00:14:56,730 --> 00:14:57,731
US IN A BETTER SPOT.

497
00:14:57,772 --> 00:15:00,525
>> Nick: TO BE CLEAR, AFTER

498
00:15:00,567 --> 00:15:01,693
THE TWO OF YOU WERE ENGAGED, YOU

499
00:15:01,735 --> 00:15:03,110
NO LONGER HAD FEELINGS FOR

500
00:15:03,152 --> 00:15:03,820
MICAH.

501
00:15:03,862 --> 00:15:04,654
THAT SHIP HAD SAILED.

502
00:15:04,696 --> 00:15:06,030
>> I DID NOT.

503
00:15:06,072 --> 00:15:07,365
LITTLE DID THE WORLD KNOW, THERE

504
00:15:07,407 --> 00:15:08,575
WERE A COUPLE DATES THAT MICAH

505
00:15:08,616 --> 00:15:10,493
AND I HAD THAT WERE LONG,

506
00:15:10,535 --> 00:15:11,661
SCHEDULE DATES THAT BOTH ENDED

507
00:15:11,703 --> 00:15:12,495
EARLY.

508
00:15:12,537 --> 00:15:13,913
AT THAT POINT IN TIME BY THE

509
00:15:13,954 --> 00:15:15,331
TIME WE BROKE UP, WE WEREN'T

510
00:15:15,373 --> 00:15:17,166
HAVING AS MUCH FUN IN OUR DATES

511
00:15:17,208 --> 00:15:20,920
ANYMORE SO WE BOTH KNEW IT WAS

512
00:15:20,961 --> 00:15:21,755
COMING UP.

513
00:15:21,796 --> 00:15:23,130
IT JUST HAD TO BE THAT FINAL

514
00:15:23,172 --> 00:15:24,048
STEP TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.

515
00:15:24,090 --> 00:15:27,301
I THINK WE BOTH KNEW OUR HEARTS

516
00:15:27,343 --> 00:15:28,762
WERE GOING TO DIFFERENT

517
00:15:28,803 --> 00:15:29,679
DIRECTIONS AND THEY WERE

518
00:15:29,721 --> 00:15:30,471
DIRECTIONS THAT WERE DEFINITELY

519
00:15:30,513 --> 00:15:31,806
BETTER FOR US.

520
00:15:31,848 --> 00:15:33,767
WE NEEDED TO TAKE THAT STEP.

521
00:15:33,808 --> 00:15:36,352
>> Nick: TO BE FAIR, THINKING

522
00:15:36,394 --> 00:15:40,607
BACK TO YOUR REACTION TO YOU AND

523
00:15:40,648 --> 00:15:41,816
MICAH'S LAST DATE AND THE PODS,

524
00:15:41,858 --> 00:15:43,735
SEEMED LIKE IT WAS A FAIRLY

525
00:15:43,777 --> 00:15:45,403
EMOTIONAL REACTION ON YOUR PART.

526
00:15:45,445 --> 00:15:46,987
IF YOU KNEW YOU WERE HEADING IN

527
00:15:47,029 --> 00:15:48,907
SEPARATE DIRECTIONS, WHY RISO

528
00:15:48,948 --> 00:15:50,199
EMOTIONALLY MOVED AT THAT

529
00:15:50,241 --> 00:15:51,033
MOMENT?

530
00:15:51,075 --> 00:15:52,535
>> IT HURTS THE MATTER WHAT.

531
00:15:52,577 --> 00:15:54,287
WE HAVE ALL HAD THOSE MOMENTS

532
00:15:54,328 --> 00:15:56,163
WHERE YOU SEPARATE FROM SOMEONE

533
00:15:56,205 --> 00:15:57,791
YOU KNOW ISN'T RIGHT FOR YOU AND

534
00:15:57,832 --> 00:15:59,083
YOU STILL SIT ON YOUR BED AND

535
00:15:59,125 --> 00:16:00,835
EAT ICE CREAM FOR A MONTH.

536
00:16:00,877 --> 00:16:02,837
YOU HAVE TO PROCESS YOUR

537
00:16:02,879 --> 00:16:03,922
EMOTIONS REGARDLESS OF WHETHER

538
00:16:03,963 --> 00:16:04,672
MY HEART WAS IN A DIFFERENT

539
00:16:04,714 --> 00:16:06,340
PLACE AND I HAD MOVED ON.

540
00:16:06,382 --> 00:16:08,593
I NEEDED TO PROCESS OUT THE PAIN

541
00:16:08,635 --> 00:16:10,762
THAT WAS FELT.

542
00:16:10,804 --> 00:16:12,555
I THINK THAT I'M OKAY WITH WHAT

543
00:16:12,597 --> 00:16:13,598
HAPPENED.

544
00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:14,933
IT HELPS ME PROCESS IT.

545
00:16:14,974 --> 00:16:16,643
I SHOULD HAVE HANDLED THE

546
00:16:16,684 --> 00:16:18,018
BREAKUP IMMEDIATELY WITH A BIT

547
00:16:18,060 --> 00:16:19,520
MORE MATURITY BECAUSE I THINK

548
00:16:19,562 --> 00:16:21,272
WOULD HAVE GOTTEN MORE CLOSURE

549
00:16:21,314 --> 00:16:22,398
BEFORE MEXICO BUT ALL IN ALL I

550
00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:23,608
THINK THERE WAS SOME PAIN IN IT

551
00:16:23,650 --> 00:16:24,609
AND THAT'S THE WAY I COULD

552
00:16:24,651 --> 00:16:26,319
PROCESS IT.

553
00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:27,946
>> Vanessa: SOMETHING I

554
00:16:27,987 --> 00:16:29,113
NOTICED IN THAT CLIP, CHELSEA,

555
00:16:29,155 --> 00:16:31,950
YOU WERE TELLING MICAH HEY, YOU

556
00:16:31,991 --> 00:16:34,327
TOLD ME YOU WERE GOING TO BREAK

557
00:16:34,368 --> 00:16:35,411
UP WITH HIM.

558
00:16:35,453 --> 00:16:37,246
AND YOU KIND OF MADE A LITTLE

559
00:16:37,288 --> 00:16:39,165
SMIRK BUT YOU DIDN'T SAY

560
00:16:39,206 --> 00:16:40,040
ANYTHING.

561
00:16:40,082 --> 00:16:40,959
WAS THAT NOT YOUR RECOLLECTION

562
00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,335
OF THINGS, THAT HE WAS GOING TO

563
00:16:42,376 --> 00:16:43,377
BREAK UP WITH YOU.

564
00:16:43,419 --> 00:16:44,504
YOU WERE ALWAYS GOING TO BREAK

565
00:16:44,545 --> 00:16:48,257
UP WITH HIM?

566
00:16:48,299 --> 00:16:50,259
>> I DON'T THINK I WAS AWARE OF

567
00:16:50,301 --> 00:16:52,470
THAT BUT I DON'T THINK IT

568
00:16:52,512 --> 00:16:53,304
MATTERS.

569
00:16:53,346 --> 00:16:58,392
I THINK, THE PROOF IS HERE.

570
00:16:58,434 --> 00:16:59,310
REGARDLESS OF THE CADENCE, IT

571
00:16:59,352 --> 00:17:02,772
HAPPENED AND IT DOESN'T MATTER.

572
00:17:02,814 --> 00:17:03,982
WE KNEW IT WAS BEST FOR

573
00:17:04,023 --> 00:17:09,779
OURSELVES AND WE FOLLOW THAT.

574
00:17:09,821 --> 00:17:10,864
>> Vanessa: DID KWAME SAY THAT

575
00:17:10,905 --> 00:17:14,951
TO YOU OR YOU ARE IN THE MOMENT?

576
00:17:14,993 --> 00:17:17,077
>> I WAS SO FOCUSED ON MY

577
00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:17,996
RELATIONSHIP WITH KWAME THE

578
00:17:18,037 --> 00:17:19,330
WHOLE TIME AND I THINK IT'S A

579
00:17:19,372 --> 00:17:22,000
LITTLE BIT WHY AT THE POOL

580
00:17:22,041 --> 00:17:23,918
PARTY, I WAS LIKE, WHOA.

581
00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:25,378
I REALLY DIDN'T KNOW HOW DEEPLY

582
00:17:25,419 --> 00:17:27,463
THEY HAD FALLEN FOR EACH OTHER.

583
00:17:27,505 --> 00:17:28,589
>> Vanessa: SPECIFICALLY WHEN

584
00:17:28,631 --> 00:17:30,424
YOU ARE WALKING THE DOGS.

585
00:17:30,466 --> 00:17:31,258
YOU SAID KWAME TOLD ME HE WAS

586
00:17:31,300 --> 00:17:37,765
GOING TO BREAK UP WITH YOU.

587
00:17:37,807 --> 00:17:38,766
SO YOU DID?

588
00:17:38,808 --> 00:17:41,185
>> I NEVER GOT TO.

589
00:17:41,227 --> 00:17:43,062
WE GOT TO THE CONVERSATION.

590
00:17:43,103 --> 00:17:47,025
I WRITTEN SOMETHING HEARTFELT.

591
00:17:47,066 --> 00:17:47,984
THE QUEEN MEANT SOMETHING TO

592
00:17:48,026 --> 00:17:51,571
EACH OTHER THAT MOMENT.

593
00:17:51,612 --> 00:17:53,197
THE CONVERSATION WENT HEY, I

594
00:17:53,239 --> 00:17:54,323
THINK WE SHOULD GO OUR SEPARATE

595
00:17:54,365 --> 00:17:55,533
DIRECTIONS AND IT HURT TO HEAR

596
00:17:55,575 --> 00:17:57,076
BECAUSE REGARDLESS OF HOW LITTLE

597
00:17:57,117 --> 00:17:59,453
THE CONNECTION FELT AT THAT

598
00:17:59,495 --> 00:18:00,371
POINT.

599
00:18:00,413 --> 00:18:02,999
THERE IS DEPTH TO IT.

600
00:18:03,041 --> 00:18:05,292
I FELT IN THAT MOMENT I NEEDED

601
00:18:05,334 --> 00:18:06,252
MORE CLOSURE AND ACCEPTANCE THAT

602
00:18:06,293 --> 00:18:07,420
WE DIDN'T MEAN SOMETHING TO EACH

603
00:18:07,461 --> 00:18:08,295
OTHER AT SOME POINT.

604
00:18:08,337 --> 00:18:10,631
IT HELPED US GET TO THAT POINT

605
00:18:10,673 --> 00:18:12,425
OF OUR JOURNEY WHERE WE ARE NOW

606
00:18:12,466 --> 00:18:14,468
BLESSED TO GO IN A BETTER

607
00:18:14,510 --> 00:18:21,017
DIRECTION.

608
00:18:21,059 --> 00:18:23,019
SOMETHING THAT YOU DIDN'T SEE,

609
00:18:23,061 --> 00:18:24,270
IN THE LOUNGE I WAS GOING TO

610
00:18:24,311 --> 00:18:25,980
HAVE A TRUCE, I WALKED UP TO

611
00:18:26,022 --> 00:18:26,856
MICAH.

612
00:18:26,898 --> 00:18:27,941
WHATEVER IS MEANT TO BE WILL BE.

613
00:18:27,982 --> 00:18:29,400
I REALLY DO BELIEVE THAT FOR

614
00:18:29,442 --> 00:18:30,359
BOTH OF US.

615
00:18:30,401 --> 00:18:32,403
SHE GOES, BEFORE I COULD EVEN

616
00:18:32,445 --> 00:18:33,320
SPEAK, SHE SAID WAIT, I AM

617
00:18:33,362 --> 00:18:36,824
BREAKING UP WITH HIM RIGHT NOW.

618
00:18:36,866 --> 00:18:37,408
OH.

619
00:18:37,450 --> 00:18:38,325
OKAY.

620
00:18:38,367 --> 00:18:39,243
IT WAS A LITTLE BIT SHOCKING TO

621
00:18:39,285 --> 00:18:40,119
ME BUT THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID AND

622
00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:43,081
THAT'S WHAT SHE DID.

623
00:18:43,122 --> 00:18:44,999
I OBVIOUSLY, KWAME WAS ON THE

624
00:18:45,041 --> 00:18:45,750
OTHER SIDE.

625
00:18:45,792 --> 00:18:46,667
I COULDN'T TALK TO HIM.

626
00:18:46,709 --> 00:18:48,127
I COULDN'T FACT-CHECK ANYTHING.

627
00:18:48,168 --> 00:18:49,003
I'M GOING TO TAKE WHAT SHE IS

628
00:18:49,045 --> 00:18:49,837
SAYING AND SHE WENT IN THERE AND

629
00:18:49,879 --> 00:18:52,465
SHE DID THAT.

630
00:18:52,506 --> 00:18:53,925
>> Nick: DO YOU FEEL LIKE

631
00:18:53,967 --> 00:18:57,011
MICAH MAY BE PLAYED WITH KWAME'S

632
00:18:57,053 --> 00:18:58,012
EMOTIONS A LITTLE BIT?

633
00:18:58,054 --> 00:19:00,098
>> IT'S A COMPLICATED

634
00:19:00,139 --> 00:19:00,932
EXPERIENCE.

635
00:19:00,974 --> 00:19:01,599
YOU ARE FALLING IN LOVE WITH

636
00:19:01,641 --> 00:19:03,851
MULTIPLE PEOPLE.

637
00:19:03,893 --> 00:19:05,853
I AM GOING TO GIVE EVERYONE THE

638
00:19:05,895 --> 00:19:08,272
BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT, IT'S A

639
00:19:08,314 --> 00:19:09,523
DIFFICULT PROCESS.

640
00:19:09,565 --> 00:19:11,109
WE ALL COPE IN DIFFERENT WAYS

641
00:19:11,150 --> 00:19:14,862
AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT

642
00:19:14,904 --> 00:19:15,738
CONDONING MESSING AROUND WITH

643
00:19:15,780 --> 00:19:16,614
SOMEBODY OR PUTTING SOMEONE ELSE

644
00:19:16,656 --> 00:19:18,240
DOWN TO MAKE YOU FEEL BETTER BUT

645
00:19:18,282 --> 00:19:19,117
IT'S A COMPLEX PROCESS AND WE

646
00:19:19,158 --> 00:19:22,536
ALL DEAL WITH IT THE BEST WE CAN

647
00:19:22,578 --> 00:19:23,370
CAN.

648
00:19:23,412 --> 00:19:25,414
>> Vanessa: I LOVE HOW MUCH

649
00:19:25,456 --> 00:19:26,666
YOU HAVE REFLECTED AND

650
00:19:26,707 --> 00:19:27,792
SPECIFICALLY KWAME WHEN YOU

651
00:19:27,834 --> 00:19:29,502
ASKED ABOUT REFLECTING AND

652
00:19:29,543 --> 00:19:31,253
WANTING TO APOLOGIZE TO YOUR

653
00:19:31,295 --> 00:19:33,131
WIFE, YOUR FAMILIES NEVER BUDDY

654
00:19:33,172 --> 00:19:33,965
WATCHING.

655
00:19:34,007 --> 00:19:35,633
HE DID POST ON INSTAGRAM, HE

656
00:19:35,675 --> 00:19:42,682
SAID I GET IT.

657
00:19:44,934 --> 00:19:45,810
BUT YOU'VE HAD THE MOST FUN

658
00:19:45,852 --> 00:19:46,644
FALLING IN LOVE WITH EACH OTHER

659
00:19:46,686 --> 00:19:47,520
SO IF YOU HAVE THE CHANCE TO

660
00:19:47,561 --> 00:19:48,437
TELL EVERYBODY, WHAT DO YOU WANT

661
00:19:48,479 --> 00:19:49,313
TO TELL THAT YOU THINK YOU WANT

662
00:19:49,355 --> 00:19:49,814
TO ADDRESS THAT IS MISUNDERSTOOD

663
00:19:49,856 --> 00:19:50,648
ABOUT Y'ALL?

664
00:19:50,690 --> 00:19:51,315
>> ABOUT OUR RELATIONSHIP?

665
00:19:51,357 --> 00:19:51,691
>> Vanessa: ABOUT YOU IN

666
00:19:51,732 --> 00:19:52,483
GENERAL.

667
00:19:52,525 --> 00:19:53,734
>> I WILL SAY EVERY SINGLE

668
00:19:53,776 --> 00:19:54,568
CONVERSATION THAT KWAME HAD

669
00:19:54,610 --> 00:19:57,196
AFTER MEXICO WITH MICAH WAS

670
00:19:57,237 --> 00:20:04,244
PUSHING A NARRATIVE.

671
00:20:09,167 --> 00:20:11,002
>> AT THE END OF THE DAY BY THE

672
00:20:11,044 --> 00:20:12,211
TIME WERE GOING TO STEP OUT OF

673
00:20:12,252 --> 00:20:14,213
THE PODS, BY THE TIME WE'RE

674
00:20:14,254 --> 00:20:16,256
GOING TO GET TO MEXICO, IT WAS

675
00:20:16,298 --> 00:20:20,344
GOING TO BE WITH CHELSEA.

676
00:20:20,386 --> 00:20:22,596
NO I WISH THIS OR I WISH THAT,

677
00:20:22,638 --> 00:20:23,514
EVERYTHING HAPPENED THE WAY IT

678
00:20:23,556 --> 00:20:24,807
WAS SUPPOSED TO AND WE ARE HERE

679
00:20:24,849 --> 00:20:26,059
BECAUSE OF THAT SO IF THERE WAS

680
00:20:26,100 --> 00:20:28,227
ANY CONFUSION, DID YOU THINK YOU

681
00:20:28,268 --> 00:20:29,937
ARE GOING TO END UP WITH MICAH?

682
00:20:29,979 --> 00:20:32,190
AT THE END OF THE DAY WE BOTH

683
00:20:32,272 --> 00:20:33,524
KNEW WHERE WE WERE HEADED.

684
00:20:33,566 --> 00:20:35,234
WE WERE TAKING THE SAME JOURNEY.

685
00:20:35,275 --> 00:20:37,236
MICAH STARTED TELLING ME SHE WAS

686
00:20:37,277 --> 00:20:38,404
CONNECTING WITH PAUL AND YOU SAW

687
00:20:38,445 --> 00:20:40,156
ME, I SAID I'M STARTING TO

688
00:20:40,198 --> 00:20:41,699
CONNECT WITH SOMEONE ELSE TOO

689
00:20:41,741 --> 00:20:42,992
AND I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW.

690
00:20:43,034 --> 00:20:44,785
I WAS STARTING TO HAVE REALLY

691
00:20:44,827 --> 00:20:45,870
STRONG FEELINGS FOR CHELSEA AND

692
00:20:45,912 --> 00:20:48,164
I THINK IT WAS ONLY FAIR, AS

693
00:20:48,206 --> 00:20:50,666
EVERYONE IS GOING THROUGH THIS

694
00:20:50,708 --> 00:20:52,168
EXPERIMENT TO ADDRESS IT WITH

695
00:20:52,210 --> 00:20:54,879
THE PEOPLE YOU EXPERIENCED IT

696
00:20:54,921 --> 00:20:55,671
WITH.

697
00:20:55,713 --> 00:20:56,923
>> Vanessa: YOU WERE BEING

698
00:20:56,964 --> 00:20:57,631
HUMAN AND YOU SAID YOUR EGO

699
00:20:57,673 --> 00:21:01,052
WOULD GET IN THE WAY.

700
00:21:01,094 --> 00:21:02,220
BUT I RESPECT YOU HAVE TAKEN

701
00:21:02,261 --> 00:21:04,138
TIME TO REFLECT AND YOU LOOK

702
00:21:04,180 --> 00:21:05,014
STRONGER THAN EVER.

703
00:21:05,056 --> 00:21:06,807
>> WE WERE STRONG BUT IF

704
00:21:06,849 --> 00:21:07,725
ANYTHING THIS WHOLE THING MADE

705
00:21:07,767 --> 00:21:12,146
US EVEN STRONGER.

706
00:21:12,188 --> 00:21:13,814
[APPLAUSE]

707
00:21:13,856 --> 00:21:16,358
>> Vanessa: ONE OF MY FAVORITE

708
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:17,777
PARTS OF THE SEASON WAS WHEN

709
00:21:17,818 --> 00:21:21,321
KWAME'S SISTER CAME ON TV.

710
00:21:21,363 --> 00:21:23,199
I WANT HER WITH ME ALL THE TIME.

711
00:21:23,241 --> 00:21:24,491
SHE IS POSITIVE, SHE'S JOYFUL,

712
00:21:24,533 --> 00:21:27,036
SHE'S HAPPY.

713
00:21:27,078 --> 00:21:27,787
SHE'S ENCOURAGING.

714
00:21:27,828 --> 00:21:28,913
SHE IS ALL THE THINGS HE

715
00:21:28,955 --> 00:21:31,540
WOULDN'T SHE SAY WHEN THE BRIDAL

716
00:21:31,582 --> 00:21:32,541
SUITE, CHELSEA, I STARTED TO CRY

717
00:21:32,583 --> 00:21:34,585
AND IT WAS SUCH A BEAUTIFUL

718
00:21:34,627 --> 00:21:35,419
MOMENT.

719
00:21:35,461 --> 00:21:37,130
SEEING HOW MUCH SHE MEANS TO

720
00:21:37,171 --> 00:21:38,756
YOU, KWAME, IS SO SPECIAL.

721
00:21:38,798 --> 00:21:40,549
WE ALSO WANT TO KNOW, HAVE YOU

722
00:21:40,591 --> 00:21:43,052
YET TO MEET KWAME'S MOTHER,

723
00:21:43,094 --> 00:21:43,636
CHELSEA?

724
00:21:43,677 --> 00:21:45,596
>> YES.

725
00:21:45,638 --> 00:21:46,889
>> Vanessa: WHAT!

726
00:21:46,931 --> 00:21:49,349
I NEED ALL THE DETAILS.

727
00:21:49,391 --> 00:21:51,269
WHEN, WHERE, HOW, WHAT WERE YOU

728
00:21:51,310 --> 00:21:52,186
WEARING?

729
00:21:52,228 --> 00:21:54,063
>> THANKSGIVING, WE WENT TO THE

730
00:21:54,105 --> 00:21:55,189
FAMILY FOR THANKSGIVING.

731
00:21:55,231 --> 00:21:57,691
HIS MOM WELCOMED ME WITH OPEN

732
00:21:57,733 --> 00:21:58,734
ARMS.

733
00:21:58,776 --> 00:21:59,610
IT WAS A WONDERFUL FIRST VISIT

734
00:21:59,652 --> 00:22:01,361
WHEN I WAS IN HIS SISTER'S HOME.

735
00:22:01,403 --> 00:22:03,823
I FELT, I WAS LIKE, I AM HOME.

736
00:22:03,864 --> 00:22:05,532
IT WAS LOVING, MUSIC, FOOD, IT

737
00:22:05,574 --> 00:22:07,534
WAS LIKE MY FAMILY.

738
00:22:07,576 --> 00:22:08,828
AND IT WAS SUCH A BEAUTIFUL

739
00:22:08,869 --> 00:22:11,664
EXPERIENCE AND WE WENT AROUND.

740
00:22:11,705 --> 00:22:13,082
I REALLY BONDED WITH HIS NIECES

741
00:22:13,124 --> 00:22:14,667
AND WE WENT AROUND THE CIRCLE TO

742
00:22:14,708 --> 00:22:16,669
SAY WHAT WE WERE THANKFUL FOR

743
00:22:16,710 --> 00:22:19,130
AND HIS YOUNGEST NIECE SAID SHE

744
00:22:19,172 --> 00:22:25,136
WAS MOST FAITHFUL FOR HER AUNTIE

745
00:22:25,178 --> 00:22:26,012
AUNTIE --

746
00:22:26,053 --> 00:22:26,762
THANKFUL FOR HER AUNTIE CHELSEA.

747
00:22:26,804 --> 00:22:28,681
I HAD TO HOLD BACK TEARS.

748
00:22:28,722 --> 00:22:30,599
WONDERFUL START.

749
00:22:30,641 --> 00:22:32,392
>> Nick: IT'S A LITTLE TRICKY

750
00:22:32,434 --> 00:22:33,853
SOMETIMES TO RECOLLECT AND

751
00:22:33,894 --> 00:22:35,729
RECALL THINGS THAT HAPPENED A

752
00:22:35,771 --> 00:22:36,605
YEAR AGO.

753
00:22:36,647 --> 00:22:38,149
WATCHING YOU SIT HERE, SEEING

754
00:22:38,191 --> 00:22:39,399
HOW HAPPY YOU ARE AND HOW STRONG

755
00:22:39,441 --> 00:22:42,236
YOU ARE, WE COULDN'T BE HAPPIER

756
00:22:42,278 --> 00:22:43,112
FOR YOU.

757
00:22:43,154 --> 00:22:44,238
>> Vanessa: WE CAN SAY BECAUSE

758
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,199
THEY ARE SITTING HERE, YES, SHE

759
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,202
HAS MET HIS MOTHER AND YES,

760
00:22:49,243 --> 00:22:52,079
BRENDA IS HIS SISTER.

761
00:22:52,121 --> 00:22:54,165
BARBARA.

762
00:22:54,207 --> 00:22:54,999
SORRY.

763
00:22:55,041 --> 00:22:56,292
THE INTERNET IS MAKING ME GO

764
00:22:56,334 --> 00:22:57,168
CRAZY.

765
00:22:57,210 --> 00:22:57,751
EVERYONE CAN CALM DOWN.

766
00:22:57,793 --> 00:22:59,045
THEY ARE HAPPY.

767
00:22:59,086 --> 00:23:00,838
THEY ARE IN LOVE.

768
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,465
BARBARA WAS NOT A PAID ACTRESS.

769
00:23:03,507 --> 00:23:05,759
>> Nick: PUT THAT RUMOR TO

770
00:23:05,801 --> 00:23:06,635
REST.

771
00:23:06,677 --> 00:23:08,386
>> IF THERE WAS, IT WOULD BE A

772
00:23:08,428 --> 00:23:13,559
GOFUNDME ALREADY.

773
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:14,476
>> Vanessa: FAIRY GODMOTHER OF

774
00:23:14,518 --> 00:23:15,353
A SISTER.

775
00:23:15,393 --> 00:23:16,979
>> MY BEST FRIEND ALL MY LIFE.

776
00:23:17,021 --> 00:23:17,563
>> Vanessa: SHE PRACTICALLY

777
00:23:17,604 --> 00:23:18,272
RAISED YOU.

778
00:23:18,314 --> 00:23:20,066
I HAVE BEEN FOR YOU.

779
00:23:20,107 --> 00:23:20,858
THANK YOU FOR SHARING.

780
00:23:20,900 --> 00:23:22,318
>> Nick: IT'S TIME TO TALK

781
00:23:22,360 --> 00:23:24,695
ABOUT ONE OF THE MOST ROMANTIC

782
00:23:24,737 --> 00:23:27,489
MOMENTS OF SEASON 4, THE MOMENT

783
00:23:27,531 --> 00:23:29,242
THAT ZACK AND BLISS DANCED TO

784
00:23:29,283 --> 00:23:31,744
THEIR SONG AFTER THEY GOT

785
00:23:31,785 --> 00:23:32,328
MARRIED.

786
00:23:32,370 --> 00:23:38,125
TAKE A LOOK.

787
00:23:38,167 --> 00:23:41,170
>> [SINGING]

788
00:23:41,212 --> 00:23:48,219
I HOPE YOU DANCE, I HOPE YOU

789
00:23:51,931 --> 00:23:58,729
DANCE, I HOPE YOU DANCE.

790
00:23:58,771 --> 00:24:01,107
[CHEERING]

791
00:24:01,148 --> 00:24:03,817
[APPLAUSE]

792
00:24:03,859 --> 00:24:06,153
>> Vanessa: WATCHING YOU, IT

793
00:24:06,195 --> 00:24:07,071
GETS ME.

794
00:24:07,113 --> 00:24:09,156
>> I HAVE ALREADY WATCHED IT 20

795
00:24:09,198 --> 00:24:09,990
TIMES.

796
00:24:10,032 --> 00:24:10,824
>> Vanessa: IT'S NEVER GOING

797
00:24:10,866 --> 00:24:11,992
TO GET OLD.

798
00:24:12,034 --> 00:24:14,536
YOUR LOVE JOURNEY HAS BEEN ONE

799
00:24:14,578 --> 00:24:16,414
THAT PROGRESSED AND IT

800
00:24:16,454 --> 00:24:18,332
PROGRESSED SO BEAUTIFULLY.

801
00:24:18,374 --> 00:24:19,792
AT THAT MOMENT ON YOUR WEDDING

802
00:24:19,833 --> 00:24:23,170
DAY, THAT'S WHEN I WAS SUCH A

803
00:24:23,212 --> 00:24:24,046
BELIEVER.

804
00:24:24,088 --> 00:24:25,256
ZACK, WATCHING YOUR FACE WHEN

805
00:24:25,298 --> 00:24:26,673
YOU WERE STARING AT YOUR WIFE

806
00:24:26,715 --> 00:24:27,967
AND WHEN YOU WERE DANCING WITH

807
00:24:28,008 --> 00:24:30,468
HER, I KNEW THIS MAN IS IN LOVE

808
00:24:30,510 --> 00:24:33,764
WITH HER AND I AM HOPING,

809
00:24:33,806 --> 00:24:35,182
HOLY COW, FOR THE FIRST

810
00:24:35,224 --> 00:24:36,058
"LOVE IS BLIND" BABY.

811
00:24:36,100 --> 00:24:37,726
NOT THAT I'M PUTTING PRESSURE ON

812
00:24:37,768 --> 00:24:40,020
Y'ALL.

813
00:24:40,062 --> 00:24:40,896
[LAUGHTER]

814
00:24:40,938 --> 00:24:43,481
HOW MEANINGFUL WAS THAT FOR YOU,

815
00:24:43,523 --> 00:24:46,026
ZACK, TO WATCH AND DANCE WITH

816
00:24:46,068 --> 00:24:48,028
YOUR WIFE TO THAT SONG?

817
00:24:48,070 --> 00:24:49,655
>> YEAH.

818
00:24:49,696 --> 00:24:51,365
IT'S REALLY INTERESTING.

819
00:24:51,407 --> 00:24:55,453
THERE WAS OF FAN WHO HAD COMMENT

820
00:24:55,493 --> 00:24:57,955
ON -- COMMENTED ON THAT ON

821
00:24:57,997 --> 00:24:58,998
INSTAGRAM.

822
00:24:59,039 --> 00:25:00,791
IT MADE ME REALLY THINK ABOUT

823
00:25:00,833 --> 00:25:05,004
HOW THAT SONG REALLY IS A

824
00:25:05,045 --> 00:25:07,047
SYNOPSIS OF OUR ENTIRE LOVE

825
00:25:07,089 --> 00:25:10,217
STORY.

826
00:25:10,259 --> 00:25:15,848
THE LYRICS, IT'S PRETTY WILD.

827
00:25:15,889 --> 00:25:17,057
LEANNE TALKS ABOUT NEVER FEARING

828
00:25:17,099 --> 00:25:18,267
THE MOUNTAINS IN THE DISTANCE IN

829
00:25:18,309 --> 00:25:19,559
THE MOUNTAINS IN THE DISTANCE

830
00:25:19,601 --> 00:25:21,728
WERE EXACTLY WHAT I WAS FEARING

831
00:25:21,770 --> 00:25:23,481
WITH BLISS.

832
00:25:23,521 --> 00:25:25,232
I WAS AFRAID THAT IT WOULDN'T

833
00:25:25,274 --> 00:25:26,566
WORK.

834
00:25:26,608 --> 00:25:27,693
I WAS AFRAID WE COULDN'T

835
00:25:27,734 --> 00:25:33,366
OVERCOME THE MOUNTAINS.

836
00:25:33,407 --> 00:25:35,993
I WAS AFRAID OF WHAT WOULD

837
00:25:36,035 --> 00:25:39,079
HAPPEN IF IT FAILED, IF WE GOT

838
00:25:39,121 --> 00:25:41,707
ENGAGED AND AT THE ALTAR, IT WAS

839
00:25:41,748 --> 00:25:45,878
"I DON'T."

840
00:25:45,919 --> 00:25:49,089
I DID TAKE THE PATH OF LEAST

841
00:25:49,131 --> 00:25:49,923
RESISTANCE.

842
00:25:49,965 --> 00:25:54,594
BUT I DIDN'T LET A HELL-BENT

843
00:25:54,636 --> 00:25:55,471
HEART LEAVE ME BETTER.

844
00:25:55,513 --> 00:25:58,265
>> I LOVE THAT YOU DIDN'T LET

845
00:25:58,307 --> 00:25:59,683
FEAR LEAD YOU.

846
00:25:59,725 --> 00:26:00,934
YOU TRUSTED YOUR HEART.

847
00:26:00,976 --> 00:26:02,560
>> Nick: LET'S TALK ABOUT

848
00:26:02,602 --> 00:26:03,603
ANOTHER POTENTIAL MOUNTAIN THAT

849
00:26:03,645 --> 00:26:06,648
YOU GUYS HAD TO OVERCOME.

850
00:26:06,690 --> 00:26:07,565
BLISS' FATHER.

851
00:26:07,607 --> 00:26:08,442
WE KNOW THAT HE WASN'T THE

852
00:26:08,484 --> 00:26:10,152
BIGGEST FAN OF THE TWO OF YOU

853
00:26:10,194 --> 00:26:10,861
GETTING TOGETHER.

854
00:26:10,903 --> 00:26:14,365
HOW IS THAT RELATIONSHIP

855
00:26:14,407 --> 00:26:15,241
PROGRESSED?

856
00:26:15,282 --> 00:26:16,116
>> MY DAD WILL ALWAYS SHOW UP

857
00:26:16,158 --> 00:26:18,244
FOR ME, ALWAYS BE THERE FOR ME

858
00:26:18,285 --> 00:26:19,286
AND ULTIMATELY HE'S GOING TO

859
00:26:19,328 --> 00:26:21,163
TRUST IN ME AND I'M HAPPY TO SAY

860
00:26:21,205 --> 00:26:24,875
THAT HE AND ZACK ARE BEST BUDS

861
00:26:24,917 --> 00:26:26,335
AND THEY CAN'T STOP TALKING TO

862
00:26:26,377 --> 00:26:27,920
EACH OTHER WHEN WE ARE AT DINNER

863
00:26:27,961 --> 00:26:29,296
OR WHATEVER.

864
00:26:29,338 --> 00:26:30,464
IT IS SO CUTE.

865
00:26:30,506 --> 00:26:31,798
HE IS PAYING FOR A HONEYMOON FOR

866
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:36,053
US IN PANAMA.

867
00:26:36,095 --> 00:26:38,472
>> CAN I SAY SOMETHING?

868
00:26:38,514 --> 00:26:39,806
>> Vanessa: OF COURSE.

869
00:26:39,848 --> 00:26:42,101
I HOPE FOR THIS.

870
00:26:42,142 --> 00:26:43,769
>> ONE OF THE BEST PARTS OF OUR

871
00:26:43,810 --> 00:26:45,187
WEDDING, IT WAS AMAZING, SEEING

872
00:26:45,229 --> 00:26:46,564
THE FRIENDS AND FAMILY THAT CAME

873
00:26:46,604 --> 00:26:49,108
TOGETHER IN A COUPLE WEEKS

874
00:26:49,149 --> 00:26:50,192
ACROSS THE ENTIRE COUNTRY, JUST

875
00:26:50,234 --> 00:26:54,071
TO BE THERE WAS AMAZING.

876
00:26:54,113 --> 00:26:56,240
BUT AS BLISS WAS COMING UP, HER

877
00:26:56,282 --> 00:26:57,657
FATHER LOOKED AT ME AND HE GAVE

878
00:26:57,699 --> 00:26:58,616
ME THIS LOOK OF APPROVAL AND I

879
00:26:58,658 --> 00:27:01,619
KNEW IN THAT MOMENT, THAT IT WAS

880
00:27:01,661 --> 00:27:04,164
GOING TO WORK OUT.

881
00:27:04,206 --> 00:27:05,707
YEAH.

882
00:27:05,749 --> 00:27:08,335
>> HE ALWAYS COMES AROUND.

883
00:27:08,377 --> 00:27:09,711
HE STRONGLY LOVES HIS CHILDREN.

884
00:27:09,753 --> 00:27:11,046
>> EVERY FATHER WANTS THE BEST

885
00:27:11,088 --> 00:27:14,925
FOR HIS LITTLE GIRL.

886
00:27:14,967 --> 00:27:16,260
>> IT'S AMAZING.

887
00:27:16,302 --> 00:27:17,719
>> Vanessa: I'M SO GLAD THAT

888
00:27:17,761 --> 00:27:20,347
DADDY CAME AROUND.

889
00:27:20,389 --> 00:27:21,848
ZACK AND BLISS WEREN'T THE ONLY

890
00:27:21,890 --> 00:27:23,476
ONE THING GOT CAUGHT UP IN SOME

891
00:27:23,517 --> 00:27:24,518
DRAMA THE SEASON.

892
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,395
THERE WAS ANOTHER DUO THAT HAD

893
00:27:26,437 --> 00:27:27,354
EVERYONE TALKING, AND I'M

894
00:27:27,396 --> 00:27:30,190
TALKING ABOUT IRINA AND MICAH.

895
00:27:30,232 --> 00:27:31,233
TAKE A LOOK.

896
00:27:32,859 --> 00:27:33,944
>> I KNOW.

897
00:27:33,986 --> 00:27:36,947
>> A BOW TIE.

898
00:27:36,989 --> 00:27:38,949
>> SHE WENT ON A DATE WITH PAUL.

899
00:27:38,991 --> 00:27:42,911
>> THAT'S REALLY FUNNY.

900
00:27:42,953 --> 00:27:44,163
>> MARDI GRAS.

901
00:27:44,204 --> 00:27:46,624
IT WAS WHAT I PICK FOR HIS DATE.

902
00:27:46,664 --> 00:27:51,086
THAT IS SO YOU.

903
00:27:51,128 --> 00:27:54,214
>> [LAUGHS]

904
00:27:54,256 --> 00:27:56,049
>> SOMETHING WE WOULD DO

905
00:27:56,091 --> 00:27:57,384
TOGETHER, I DON'T KNOW WHY.

906
00:27:57,426 --> 00:28:01,096
>> MARDI GRAS?

907
00:28:01,138 --> 00:28:03,681
>> LOSER.

908
00:28:03,723 --> 00:28:05,683
>> THAT'S NOT WHAT HE WANTED AND

909
00:28:05,725 --> 00:28:06,519
THAT'S OKAY.

910
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,354
BUT I AM LIKE, YOU KNOW YOU

911
00:28:08,395 --> 00:28:11,524
COULD HAVE BEEN A LITTLE MORE

912
00:28:11,565 --> 00:28:12,149
FORTHCOMING ABOUT --

913
00:28:12,191 --> 00:28:13,066
>> YEAH.

914
00:28:13,108 --> 00:28:14,985
>> WHERE YOU ARE ADD IN SOME OF

915
00:28:15,027 --> 00:28:16,362
JUST TELLING ME WHAT I WANTED TO

916
00:28:16,403 --> 00:28:19,323
HEAR BECAUSE NOW I FEEL LIKE

917
00:28:19,365 --> 00:28:23,035
FUCKING IDOT IDIOT BECAUSE I

918
00:28:23,076 --> 00:28:25,787
BELIEVED YOU.

919
00:28:25,829 --> 00:28:32,836
>> IT FIGURES THAT, YOU KNOW.

920
00:28:35,964 --> 00:28:38,842
I JUST FEEL SO BAD THAT I HEARD

921
00:28:38,884 --> 00:28:41,345
HIM.

922
00:28:41,387 --> 00:28:42,179
[CRYING]

923
00:28:42,221 --> 00:28:43,222
>> IT'S CRAZY.

924
00:28:43,263 --> 00:28:44,223
YOU DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG.

925
00:28:44,264 --> 00:28:51,397
>> I HAVE TO USE THE RESTROOM.

926
00:28:51,438 --> 00:28:53,065
>> WAIT.

927
00:28:53,106 --> 00:28:55,401
>> Vanessa: OKAY, WE ARE

928
00:28:55,442 --> 00:28:56,569
JOINED BY IRINA.

929
00:28:56,610 --> 00:28:58,195
THANK YOU FOR COMING.

930
00:28:58,237 --> 00:29:00,197
WHAT WAS IT LIKE WATCHING THAT?

931
00:29:00,239 --> 00:29:02,533
WATCHING IT UNFOLD WHEN YOU WERE

932
00:29:02,575 --> 00:29:04,910
WATCHING THE SEASON?

933
00:29:04,951 --> 00:29:07,413
>> SORRY.

934
00:29:07,454 --> 00:29:14,086
I JUST NEED A MINUTE.

935
00:29:14,127 --> 00:29:16,796
I THINK THAT THROUGHOUT WATCHING

936
00:29:16,838 --> 00:29:21,635
PAT BACK WAS -- WATCHING THAT

937
00:29:21,677 --> 00:29:22,553
BACK WAS DIFFICULT.

938
00:29:22,595 --> 00:29:24,804
MULTIPLE PARTS WITH ZACK ON THE

939
00:29:24,846 --> 00:29:26,181
WAY THINGS WENT OUT WITH THE

940
00:29:26,223 --> 00:29:26,890
GIRLS.

941
00:29:26,932 --> 00:29:27,891
IN THE LOUNGE AS WELL.

942
00:29:27,933 --> 00:29:29,809
I FEEL LIKE I REALLY CAME INTO

943
00:29:29,851 --> 00:29:31,144
IT IN A SELFISH PERSPECTIVE OF

944
00:29:31,186 --> 00:29:33,397
IT WAS JUST ME.

945
00:29:33,439 --> 00:29:34,690
IT WAS ME AND WHAT I WAS GOING

946
00:29:34,732 --> 00:29:38,569
THROUGH AND WHAT NO ONE ELSE WAS

947
00:29:38,611 --> 00:29:41,405
-- NO ONE ELSE IS EXPERIENCING.

948
00:29:41,447 --> 00:29:43,282
KIND OF LIKE, I WASN'T THERE TO

949
00:29:43,323 --> 00:29:44,157
MAKE FRIENDS.

950
00:29:44,199 --> 00:29:47,827
IN REALITY, HOW THAT AFFECTED

951
00:29:47,869 --> 00:29:49,037
OTHER PEOPLE, I WOULD SAY MY

952
00:29:49,079 --> 00:29:52,374
INTENTION WAS NEVER TO HURT

953
00:29:52,416 --> 00:29:53,292
ANYONE.

954
00:29:53,333 --> 00:29:54,084
IT WASN'T ONLY SEEING THE GIRLS

955
00:29:54,126 --> 00:29:56,295
I HURT WHICH I WILL SAY, I

956
00:29:56,336 --> 00:29:59,465
PRIVATELY APOLOGIZED TO ALL OF

957
00:29:59,506 --> 00:30:00,382
THEM.

958
00:30:00,424 --> 00:30:01,508
I THINK IT WAS JUST DEEPER THAN

959
00:30:01,550 --> 00:30:02,384
THAT.

960
00:30:02,426 --> 00:30:04,386
YOU THINK IT WAS SEEING PEOPLE

961
00:30:04,428 --> 00:30:07,806
THAT WERE, WE WATCHING THAT AND

962
00:30:07,847 --> 00:30:11,435
FEELING THE PAIN THEY FELT WHEN

963
00:30:11,477 --> 00:30:12,686
THEY WERE GROWING UP UNDER THOSE

964
00:30:12,728 --> 00:30:14,772
EXPERIENCES.

965
00:30:14,813 --> 00:30:16,565
I THINK I AM GOING THROUGH IT

966
00:30:16,607 --> 00:30:20,527
AND EXPERIENCING AND THINKING

967
00:30:20,569 --> 00:30:22,279
ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED.

968
00:30:22,321 --> 00:30:23,572
I KNOW THAT'S NOT THE PERSON

969
00:30:23,614 --> 00:30:24,573
THAT I WANT TO BE AND THAT I'M

970
00:30:24,615 --> 00:30:27,075
NOT.

971
00:30:27,117 --> 00:30:28,368
IT --

972
00:30:28,410 --> 00:30:29,869
IT'S PAINFUL THAT THAT'S THE

973
00:30:29,911 --> 00:30:31,789
IMAGE I'M LEFT WITH ON MY THREE

974
00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:35,501
WEEKS OF THIS JOURNEY.

975
00:30:35,542 --> 00:30:36,418
>> Nick: OBVIOUSLY INITIALLY

976
00:30:36,460 --> 00:30:38,128
YOU AND ZACK WERE TOGETHER, YOU

977
00:30:38,170 --> 00:30:39,421
WENT TO MEXICO TOGETHER.

978
00:30:39,463 --> 00:30:41,131
I'M CURIOUS.

979
00:30:41,173 --> 00:30:42,299
BLISS, WHEN YOU WATCHED THAT

980
00:30:42,341 --> 00:30:44,301
PART OF THE SEASON BACK, HOW DID

981
00:30:44,343 --> 00:30:45,552
YOU FEEL?

982
00:30:45,594 --> 00:30:48,430
HOW DID YOU FEEL ABOUT HOW IRINA

983
00:30:48,472 --> 00:30:49,389
WAS TREATING ZACK?

984
00:30:49,431 --> 00:30:51,308
>> WE TALKED ABOUT EVERYTHING

985
00:30:51,350 --> 00:30:52,643
THAT HAPPENED, HE TOLD ME EVERY

986
00:30:52,685 --> 00:30:54,520
LITTLE DETAIL SO I WAS PREPARED

987
00:30:54,561 --> 00:30:56,396
TO SEE IT BUT I WASN'T --

988
00:30:56,438 --> 00:30:58,565
I WAS VERY SHOCKED, HONESTLY AND

989
00:30:58,607 --> 00:30:59,941
I'M SUPER DISAPPOINTED AND I

990
00:30:59,983 --> 00:31:01,819
JUST REALLY HOPE THAT YOU GROW

991
00:31:01,860 --> 00:31:06,281
FROM THIS.

992
00:31:06,323 --> 00:31:07,533
IT'S SAD TO SEE SOMEONE SO

993
00:31:07,574 --> 00:31:08,408
WONDERFUL BE TREATED SO POORLY.

994
00:31:08,450 --> 00:31:12,996
I JUST HOPE THAT YOU CAN GROW.

995
00:31:13,038 --> 00:31:16,208
>> Vanessa: ZACK, DO YOU THINK

996
00:31:16,249 --> 00:31:16,958
IRINA EVER TOOK YOUR

997
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:17,376
RELATIONSHIP SERIOUSLY?

998
00:31:17,417 --> 00:31:20,713
>> NO.

999
00:31:20,754 --> 00:31:22,464
>> I WOULD LOVE TO SPEAK ON THAT

1000
00:31:22,506 --> 00:31:23,382
IF I CAN.

1001
00:31:23,423 --> 00:31:26,092
IT REALLY HURTS TO HEAR ZACK SAY

1002
00:31:26,134 --> 00:31:27,344
THAT.

1003
00:31:27,386 --> 00:31:28,387
I GENUINELY THINK ME AND ZACK

1004
00:31:28,428 --> 00:31:29,805
WEREN'T RIGHT FOR EACH OTHER AND

1005
00:31:29,847 --> 00:31:30,848
I THINK WHEN I CAME INTO THIS

1006
00:31:30,889 --> 00:31:33,726
EXPANSE I FELT LIKE I WAS IN A

1007
00:31:33,767 --> 00:31:35,018
PLACE TO FIND --

1008
00:31:35,060 --> 00:31:36,269
I WAS READY TO MEET SOMEBODY

1009
00:31:36,311 --> 00:31:37,312
THAT I WANTED TO SPEND THE REST

1010
00:31:37,354 --> 00:31:39,189
OF MY LIFE WITH THAT I THINK

1011
00:31:39,231 --> 00:31:40,649
THERE WHEN I WENT INTO IT, I

1012
00:31:40,691 --> 00:31:42,359
CAME INTO IT THINKING IF THERE'S

1013
00:31:42,401 --> 00:31:44,194
ANYBODY IN THERE THAT IT DOESN'T

1014
00:31:44,236 --> 00:31:45,945
FEEL RIGHT, I'M CUTTING IT OFF

1015
00:31:45,987 --> 00:31:47,698
RIGHT AWAY SO ZACK WAS THE LAST

1016
00:31:47,740 --> 00:31:49,575
GUY I CHOSE AND I STILL THINK

1017
00:31:49,616 --> 00:31:51,076
HE'S THE BEST GUY AND THERE'S A

1018
00:31:51,117 --> 00:31:53,412
REASON I CHOSE HIM.

1019
00:31:53,453 --> 00:31:55,706
I THINK WE WEREN'T MEANT TO BE,

1020
00:31:55,748 --> 00:31:57,499
CLEARLY WE CAN SEE FROM DAY ONE

1021
00:31:57,541 --> 00:31:58,542
FROM SEEING EACH OTHER BUT I

1022
00:31:58,584 --> 00:32:00,293
STILL BELIEVED TO THIS DAY, THIS

1023
00:32:00,335 --> 00:32:01,795
WAS THE BEST GUY THAT I MET ON

1024
00:32:01,837 --> 00:32:03,547
THE SHOW AND I AM MEANT THAT.

1025
00:32:03,589 --> 00:32:06,383
BUT I WAS GOING TO BE TRUE TO

1026
00:32:06,425 --> 00:32:07,551
MYSELF, IF IT WAS GOING TO WORK

1027
00:32:07,593 --> 00:32:08,886
OUT AND I DIDN'T AND IT FELT

1028
00:32:08,927 --> 00:32:10,721
SUPER WRONG FOR ME AND ZACK SO

1029
00:32:10,763 --> 00:32:13,599
TO HEAR THEM SAY IT WASN'T TRUE

1030
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:14,767
FOR ME, THAT'S OKAY.

1031
00:32:14,808 --> 00:32:15,975
I UNDERSTAND.

1032
00:32:16,017 --> 00:32:17,603
I TREATED YOU SO POORLY.

1033
00:32:17,644 --> 00:32:19,229
NOBODY DESERVES TO BE TREATED

1034
00:32:19,271 --> 00:32:20,773
LIKE THAT AT ALL.

1035
00:32:20,814 --> 00:32:22,107
I BELITTLED YOU AND MADE YOU

1036
00:32:22,148 --> 00:32:23,734
FEEL REALLY SMALL AND I WAS

1037
00:32:23,776 --> 00:32:24,610
GOING THROUGH A LOT MENTALLY.

1038
00:32:24,651 --> 00:32:25,569
IT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S AN EXCUSE

1039
00:32:25,611 --> 00:32:29,072
TO DO THAT BUT LOOKING BACK, I'M

1040
00:32:29,114 --> 00:32:30,115
SORRY.

1041
00:32:30,156 --> 00:32:32,826
I'M RAMBLING A LITTLE BUT I LOVE

1042
00:32:32,868 --> 00:32:34,369
YOUR GUYS' RELATIONSHIP.

1043
00:32:34,411 --> 00:32:35,203
LOVED SEEING IT UNFOLD.

1044
00:32:35,245 --> 00:32:37,748
IT WAS ONE OF MY FAVORITES.

1045
00:32:37,790 --> 00:32:40,626
IT MIGHT SOUND CHEESY BUT SEEING

1046
00:32:40,667 --> 00:32:42,043
ZACK BE SO LOVED BY YOU AND

1047
00:32:42,085 --> 00:32:43,837
SEEING THE THINGS I MAYBE DIDN'T

1048
00:32:43,879 --> 00:32:48,258
LIKE AND YOU TO JUST BE IN AWE

1049
00:32:48,300 --> 00:32:50,427
OF EVERYTHING HE DID, I HOPE

1050
00:32:50,469 --> 00:32:52,262
THAT FOR MYSELF TOO AND I MEAN

1051
00:32:52,304 --> 00:32:53,096
THAT FOR THE BOTH OF YOU.

1052
00:32:53,138 --> 00:32:54,556
>> Nick: DO YOU BELIEVE THE

1053
00:32:54,598 --> 00:32:56,015
WORDS THAT ARE COMING OUT OF HER

1054
00:32:56,057 --> 00:32:57,225
MOUTH RIGHT NOW OR DO YOU STILL

1055
00:32:57,267 --> 00:32:58,852
HAVE SKEPTICISM?

1056
00:32:58,894 --> 00:33:05,901
THAT IS UP FOR YOU TO ANSWER.

1057
00:33:07,235 --> 00:33:09,655
>> YOU DID A LOT OF THINGS THAT

1058
00:33:09,696 --> 00:33:12,157
HURT A LOT OF PEOPLE, INCLUDING

1059
00:33:12,198 --> 00:33:14,576
ME.

1060
00:33:14,618 --> 00:33:16,662
AND YOU ONLY SEE 10% OF IT ON

1061
00:33:16,703 --> 00:33:17,496
THE CAMERA.

1062
00:33:17,537 --> 00:33:19,331
THERE WAS SO MUCH STUFF THAT

1063
00:33:19,372 --> 00:33:21,374
HAPPENED THAT WAS JUST

1064
00:33:21,416 --> 00:33:21,959
UNBELIEVABLE.

1065
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,461
IF WE ARE REAL.

1066
00:33:24,503 --> 00:33:27,380
YOU WENT ON THIS SHOW TO GET

1067
00:33:27,422 --> 00:33:30,008
FAMOUS.

1068
00:33:30,049 --> 00:33:34,012
[AUDIENCE REACTS]

1069
00:33:34,053 --> 00:33:38,099
BUT LOOK.

1070
00:33:38,141 --> 00:33:39,142
I FORGIVE YOU.

1071
00:33:39,184 --> 00:33:42,312
LIKE, I GENUINELY 100% FORGIVE

1072
00:33:42,354 --> 00:33:43,313
YOU, IRINA.

1073
00:33:43,355 --> 00:33:44,230
>> I DO TOO.

1074
00:33:44,272 --> 00:33:46,191
>> I REALLY DON'T HOLD ANYTHING

1075
00:33:46,232 --> 00:33:47,108
AGAINST YOU.

1076
00:33:47,150 --> 00:33:49,068
THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE OUT HERE

1077
00:33:49,110 --> 00:33:50,320
THAT WANT TO ATTACK THE CAST ON

1078
00:33:50,362 --> 00:33:52,322
THIS SHOW.

1079
00:33:52,364 --> 00:33:54,282
YOU HAVE NO IDEA.

1080
00:33:54,324 --> 00:33:56,368
EVERYBODY WHO MADE A MISTAKE ON

1081
00:33:56,409 --> 00:33:57,536
THIS SHOW, IT HAS BEEN

1082
00:33:57,577 --> 00:33:58,954
PUNISHMENT ENOUGH FOR THE ENTIRE

1083
00:33:58,996 --> 00:34:00,246
WORLD TO SEE THEM AT THEIR

1084
00:34:00,288 --> 00:34:00,831
WORST.

1085
00:34:00,873 --> 00:34:03,667
TRUST ME.

1086
00:34:03,709 --> 00:34:05,878
IRINA, MICAH, EVERYBODY HERE, WE

1087
00:34:05,919 --> 00:34:08,421
ALL DID SOMETHING STUPID.

1088
00:34:08,463 --> 00:34:12,759
I 100% FORGIVE YOU, IRINA.

1089
00:34:12,801 --> 00:34:14,177
MY LAST COMMENT, I STAND ON

1090
00:34:14,219 --> 00:34:14,803
THAT.

1091
00:34:14,845 --> 00:34:15,846
I HAVE RECEIPTS.

1092
00:34:15,888 --> 00:34:17,180
THE ONLY RECEIPT I THINK THE

1093
00:34:17,222 --> 00:34:18,056
WORLD SHOULD SEE ARE THE ONES I

1094
00:34:18,097 --> 00:34:21,935
POSTED ON MY INSTAGRAM TODAY.

1095
00:34:21,977 --> 00:34:24,479
WITH THAT SAID, I REALLY

1096
00:34:24,521 --> 00:34:26,398
BELIEVE, IRINA, THAT YOU WILL

1097
00:34:26,439 --> 00:34:27,315
BECOME AN AMAZING PERSON ONE

1098
00:34:27,357 --> 00:34:27,900
DAY.

1099
00:34:27,941 --> 00:34:30,944
I BELIEVE THAT.

1100
00:34:30,986 --> 00:34:32,487
I MAY FORGIVE YOU FOR WHAT

1101
00:34:32,529 --> 00:34:34,948
HAPPENED AND I HOPE THE WORLD

1102
00:34:34,990 --> 00:34:37,242
DOES TOO.

1103
00:34:37,283 --> 00:34:37,826
[APPLAUSE]

1104
00:34:37,868 --> 00:34:41,955
>> WOW.

1105
00:34:41,997 --> 00:34:43,373
>> Nick: I CAN FEEL THE

1106
00:34:43,415 --> 00:34:44,207
EMOTION IN YOUR VOICE AND YOU

1107
00:34:44,249 --> 00:34:45,500
TOUCHED ON SOMETHING THAT I

1108
00:34:45,542 --> 00:34:46,418
THINK IT'S VERY TRUE, THE

1109
00:34:46,459 --> 00:34:47,502
EXPERIENCE THE ALL WENT THROUGH

1110
00:34:47,544 --> 00:34:49,295
IS ONE THAT IS SO UNIQUE THAT

1111
00:34:49,337 --> 00:34:50,547
MAYBE ONLY YOU ALL CAN

1112
00:34:50,589 --> 00:34:51,423
UNDERSTAND.

1113
00:34:51,464 --> 00:34:53,050
THEN YOU HAVE THE PERSPECTIVE OF

1114
00:34:53,091 --> 00:34:55,176
WATCHING IT BACK AND I THINK IN

1115
00:34:55,218 --> 00:34:57,136
THAT IS A GREAT LEARNING

1116
00:34:57,178 --> 00:34:58,013
OPPORTUNITY.

1117
00:34:58,055 --> 00:34:59,848
TO SEE MAY BE THE WAY THAT YOU

1118
00:34:59,890 --> 00:35:02,392
CAME OFF IN WAYS THAT YOU DIDN'T

1119
00:35:02,434 --> 00:35:03,643
NECESSARILY KNOW, IF THAT'S

1120
00:35:03,685 --> 00:35:06,438
TRUE, AND WE CAN ALL LEARN FROM

1121
00:35:06,479 --> 00:35:07,146
THOSE MOMENTS.

1122
00:35:07,188 --> 00:35:08,440
>> Vanessa: IRINA, YOU

1123
00:35:08,481 --> 00:35:09,900
MENTIONED WHEN YOU ARE TALKING

1124
00:35:09,942 --> 00:35:11,526
TO ZACK ABOUT WANTING TO BE TRUE

1125
00:35:11,568 --> 00:35:13,445
TO YOU AND THIS PROCESS AND

1126
00:35:13,486 --> 00:35:14,613
WANTING TO FIND LOVE BUT I

1127
00:35:14,654 --> 00:35:16,489
COULDN'T HELP BUT REMEMBER WHEN

1128
00:35:16,531 --> 00:35:17,407
YOU EVENTUALLY DID BREAK IT OFF

1129
00:35:17,449 --> 00:35:18,784
IN MEXICO AND YOU ARE BRUSHING

1130
00:35:18,825 --> 00:35:21,369
YOUR TEETH AND HE SAYS I'VE HAD

1131
00:35:21,411 --> 00:35:22,287
A TERRIBLE TIME.

1132
00:35:22,328 --> 00:35:24,163
AND YOU ASKED IF HE'D BEEN

1133
00:35:24,205 --> 00:35:25,164
THINKING ABOUT BLISS.

1134
00:35:25,206 --> 00:35:26,165
THE ENTIRE TIME.

1135
00:35:26,207 --> 00:35:27,667
YEAH, I WAS READY TO LEAVE THE

1136
00:35:27,709 --> 00:35:29,628
MOMENT I SAW YOU.

1137
00:35:29,669 --> 00:35:31,046
TIME OUT, REWIND.

1138
00:35:31,088 --> 00:35:32,171
DID SHE SAY THAT?

1139
00:35:32,213 --> 00:35:33,966
WHEN YOU SAW HIM IN THE REVEAL,

1140
00:35:34,007 --> 00:35:35,926
YOU ARE LIKE, AND I'M OUT.

1141
00:35:35,968 --> 00:35:37,469
BUT YOU CONTINUE TO GO ON?

1142
00:35:37,510 --> 00:35:40,847
STICK I WOULD LOVE TO THAT.

1143
00:35:40,889 --> 00:35:44,101
ZACK WAS MY TYPE ON PAPER.

1144
00:35:44,142 --> 00:35:44,977
LOOKS WISE.

1145
00:35:45,018 --> 00:35:46,937
IT WASN'T ANYTHING ABOUT THE WAY

1146
00:35:46,979 --> 00:35:47,813
HE LOOKED.

1147
00:35:47,854 --> 00:35:51,483
PEOPLE ARE BOOING ME FOR THAT

1148
00:35:51,524 --> 00:35:53,693
THAT IT WAS ALL ABOUT LOOKS BUT

1149
00:35:53,735 --> 00:35:56,529
I KNOW THAT ZACK FELT THOSE SAME

1150
00:35:56,571 --> 00:35:57,363
INSTINCTS.

1151
00:35:57,405 --> 00:35:58,907
I FELT THAT WHEN I SAW YOU.

1152
00:35:58,949 --> 00:36:00,784
IT WAS WHAT I WAS PRAYING FOR.

1153
00:36:00,826 --> 00:36:01,785
I WENT INTO THIS THINKING IF

1154
00:36:01,827 --> 00:36:03,120
THERE IS A MOMENT OR SOMETHING

1155
00:36:03,161 --> 00:36:04,871
ISN'T RIGHT, I'M CUTTING IT OUT.

1156
00:36:04,913 --> 00:36:06,498
I WOULD HAVE TIMES IN THE MIDDLE

1157
00:36:06,539 --> 00:36:09,042
OF MY DATES, I WOULD LEAVE, THIS

1158
00:36:09,084 --> 00:36:09,918
ISN'T RIGHT.

1159
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:10,794
DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT AND I WOULD

1160
00:36:10,836 --> 00:36:13,338
LEAVE SO I THOUGHT THAT WHEN I

1161
00:36:13,379 --> 00:36:15,507
SAW ZACK.

1162
00:36:15,548 --> 00:36:16,091
INSTANT ON COMFORT.

1163
00:36:16,133 --> 00:36:17,258
I FELT SCARED.

1164
00:36:17,300 --> 00:36:18,176
I DIDN'T FEEL SAFE.

1165
00:36:18,217 --> 00:36:19,177
NOT IN THE SENSE THAT I THOUGHT

1166
00:36:19,218 --> 00:36:21,262
HE WAS GOING TO HURT ME BUT IT

1167
00:36:21,304 --> 00:36:22,973
DIDN'T GO COMFORTABLE FOR ME.

1168
00:36:23,015 --> 00:36:24,557
I HAD A PANIC ATTACK AND I ASKED

1169
00:36:24,599 --> 00:36:25,976
TO GO HOME AND I SAID IT DOESN'T

1170
00:36:26,018 --> 00:36:26,685
FEEL RIGHT.

1171
00:36:26,726 --> 00:36:31,272
IT DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT.

1172
00:36:31,314 --> 00:36:33,984
THEY ASKED ME, LET'S GO TO

1173
00:36:34,026 --> 00:36:36,277
MEXICO.

1174
00:36:36,319 --> 00:36:37,154
ABSOLUTELY, HE DESERVES THAT

1175
00:36:37,195 --> 00:36:39,156
100% BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO

1176
00:36:39,197 --> 00:36:40,198
CONTINUE.

1177
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,408
I KNEW HOW HARD THAT FELT.

1178
00:36:42,450 --> 00:36:44,536
I WAS LIKE, THIS ISN'T GOING TO

1179
00:36:44,577 --> 00:36:45,370
WORK.

1180
00:36:45,411 --> 00:36:47,455
HE FELT IT TOO, 100% AND IT

1181
00:36:47,497 --> 00:36:49,166
STILL HURTS ME TO SAY THAT YOU

1182
00:36:49,207 --> 00:36:51,376
THINK I WENT ON THE SHOW TO GET

1183
00:36:51,417 --> 00:36:52,919
FAMOUS AND I THANK YOU FOR

1184
00:36:52,961 --> 00:36:54,796
FORGIVING ME BUT THAT WASN'T THE

1185
00:36:54,838 --> 00:36:55,672
REASON.

1186
00:36:55,714 --> 00:36:56,798
SO ME GOING TO MEXICO AS BEING

1187
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:57,924
LIKE I'M GOING TO GIVE ZACK A

1188
00:36:57,966 --> 00:36:59,718
CHANCE IN THIS WHOLE TIME IT'S

1189
00:36:59,759 --> 00:37:02,261
ME GIVING HIM A CHANCE AND IN

1190
00:37:02,303 --> 00:37:03,638
REALITY I'M TREATING HIM LIKE

1191
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:07,726
ABSOLUTE SHIT.

1192
00:37:07,767 --> 00:37:09,102
I DIDN'T HAVE A VOICE TO TELL

1193
00:37:09,144 --> 00:37:11,188
ZACK HOW I WAS REALLY FEELING.

1194
00:37:11,229 --> 00:37:12,397
ZACK IS AMAZING WITH HIS WORDS

1195
00:37:12,438 --> 00:37:13,231
THAT I FELT TRAPPED AND I

1196
00:37:13,272 --> 00:37:15,358
COULDN'T TELL THEM WHAT WAS

1197
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:16,442
GOING ON WITH ME.

1198
00:37:16,484 --> 00:37:18,570
>> Vanessa: I DON'T THINK IT

1199
00:37:18,611 --> 00:37:19,278
WAS JUST WORDS.

1200
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:20,822
A LOT OF ACTIONS.

1201
00:37:20,864 --> 00:37:24,617
PILLOWS OVER YOUR HEAD, EYE

1202
00:37:24,659 --> 00:37:25,326
ROLLS.

1203
00:37:25,368 --> 00:37:26,619
SORRY TO CUT YOU OFF.

1204
00:37:26,661 --> 00:37:27,871
YOU SAID YOU GREW UP AND I WAS

1205
00:37:27,913 --> 00:37:29,789
WANTING FROM THE VERY BEGINNING

1206
00:37:29,831 --> 00:37:32,125
BECAUSE YOU HAD A HARD TIME THE

1207
00:37:32,167 --> 00:37:33,835
PEOPLE WERE MAKING FUN OF YOU.

1208
00:37:33,877 --> 00:37:38,715
FOR ACNE AND YOU SAID FELT LIKE

1209
00:37:38,757 --> 00:37:42,135
A VICTIM BUT DO IT AND TO TREAT

1210
00:37:42,177 --> 00:37:43,428
PEOPLE LIKE THAT WAY, IT'S LIKE

1211
00:37:43,469 --> 00:37:44,637
IT WAS AN ACTUAL MALICIOUS

1212
00:37:44,679 --> 00:37:45,513
THOUGHT.

1213
00:37:45,555 --> 00:37:46,973
>> THE MOMENT WITH THE PILLOW

1214
00:37:47,015 --> 00:37:49,559
OVER MY FACE, WATCHING IT BACK,

1215
00:37:49,601 --> 00:37:51,519
IT WAS AN ABSOLUTE JERK MOVE.

1216
00:37:51,561 --> 00:37:53,438
I WAS LITERALLY HAVING A

1217
00:37:53,479 --> 00:37:54,313
PANIC ATTACK ON THE PILLOW.

1218
00:37:54,355 --> 00:37:56,482
I KEEP TALKING AND I WAS CRYING,

1219
00:37:56,524 --> 00:37:59,111
I LITERALLY WAS CRYING UNDER THE

1220
00:37:59,152 --> 00:37:59,986
PILLOW.

1221
00:38:00,028 --> 00:38:01,988
I COULDN'T TELL ZACK HOW I WAS

1222
00:38:02,030 --> 00:38:02,864
FEELING.

1223
00:38:02,906 --> 00:38:05,366
>> Nick: I DIDN'T HEAR BLISS'

1224
00:38:05,408 --> 00:38:06,284
POINT OF VIEW.

1225
00:38:06,325 --> 00:38:07,160
MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WAS

1226
00:38:07,202 --> 00:38:10,747
A DM SENT WHILE YOU WERE WITH

1227
00:38:10,789 --> 00:38:12,540
ZACK, TO BLISS, SAYING THAT YOU

1228
00:38:12,582 --> 00:38:13,416
DODGED A BULLET.

1229
00:38:13,458 --> 00:38:14,626
>> SHE DID SAY THAT.

1230
00:38:14,667 --> 00:38:16,669
>> I WANT TO START OFF BY SAYING

1231
00:38:16,711 --> 00:38:17,670
THIS WAS A YEAR AGO.

1232
00:38:17,712 --> 00:38:22,217
IT IS A SMALL BLIP IN ME AND

1233
00:38:22,259 --> 00:38:22,926
ZACK'S LOVE STORY.

1234
00:38:22,968 --> 00:38:24,177
WE HAVE MOVED ON.

1235
00:38:24,219 --> 00:38:24,970
WE'VE ADDRESSED IT AND I DON'T

1236
00:38:25,011 --> 00:38:27,097
WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT MUCH

1237
00:38:27,139 --> 00:38:28,014
FURTHER BECAUSE I JUST DON'T

1238
00:38:28,056 --> 00:38:28,932
CARE ANYMORE.

1239
00:38:28,974 --> 00:38:30,267
THERE WAS A MESSAGE SENT AND WE

1240
00:38:30,308 --> 00:38:31,184
ALL KNOW IT.

1241
00:38:31,226 --> 00:38:33,478
YOU DID TELL ME WHEN YOU LANDED

1242
00:38:33,519 --> 00:38:34,980
IN MEXICO THAT I DODGED A BULLET

1243
00:38:35,021 --> 00:38:36,815
AND YOU TEXTED HIM, I'M SO

1244
00:38:36,856 --> 00:38:37,816
SORRY, LET'S TALK.

1245
00:38:37,857 --> 00:38:38,984
I HOPE SOMETHING HAPPENS WITH

1246
00:38:39,025 --> 00:38:39,859
YOU AND BLISS.

1247
00:38:39,901 --> 00:38:41,611
SO I DON'T KNOW, I THINK YOU CAN

1248
00:38:41,653 --> 00:38:43,404
HAVE PANIC ATTACKS AND YOU CAN

1249
00:38:43,446 --> 00:38:44,322
HAVE TROUBLE WITH MENTAL ILLNESS

1250
00:38:44,363 --> 00:38:46,116
AND ALL THAT AND IT'S TOTALLY

1251
00:38:46,158 --> 00:38:47,033
VALID BUT YOU'RE TURNING AROUND

1252
00:38:47,075 --> 00:38:48,743
AND DOING MALICIOUS THINGS IN

1253
00:38:48,785 --> 00:38:49,327
YOUR ACTING AND REALLY CRUEL

1254
00:38:49,368 --> 00:38:50,203
WAYS.

1255
00:38:50,245 --> 00:38:52,371
IT'S HARD TO RECONCILE THOSE TWO

1256
00:38:52,413 --> 00:38:52,956
THINGS.

1257
00:38:52,998 --> 00:38:55,374
IT REALLY IS.

1258
00:38:55,416 --> 00:38:57,627
BUT AGAIN, I HOPE THAT YOU CAN

1259
00:38:57,669 --> 00:38:59,378
TAKE ACCOUNTABILITY AND THERE IS

1260
00:38:59,420 --> 00:39:00,755
TOO MUCH POWER AND TAKING

1261
00:39:00,797 --> 00:39:01,965
RESPONSIBILITY WHEN YOU DO

1262
00:39:02,007 --> 00:39:03,049
SOMETHING WRONG RATHER THAN

1263
00:39:03,091 --> 00:39:03,925
GIVING EXCUSES AND I HOPE YOU

1264
00:39:03,967 --> 00:39:05,760
CAN DO THAT AND I HOPE YOU CAN

1265
00:39:05,802 --> 00:39:07,512
MOVE FORWARD AND MOVE ON.

1266
00:39:07,553 --> 00:39:09,430
>> I DO WANT TO SAY, I WANTED TO

1267
00:39:09,472 --> 00:39:11,141
BRING IT UP, THAT I SENT YOU

1268
00:39:11,183 --> 00:39:12,225
THAT MESSAGE.

1269
00:39:12,267 --> 00:39:13,810
A FEW HOURS LATER OR A FEW DAYS

1270
00:39:13,852 --> 00:39:14,811
LATER, THAT WAS COMPLETELY OUT

1271
00:39:14,853 --> 00:39:16,562
OF LINE FOR ME TO SAY IT ALONG

1272
00:39:16,604 --> 00:39:20,192
WITH ZACK, A FEW DAYS OR HOURS

1273
00:39:20,233 --> 00:39:24,696
WHEN I GOT HOME AND HAVE TIME TO

1274
00:39:24,737 --> 00:39:25,446
PROCESS THINGS.

1275
00:39:25,488 --> 00:39:26,489
NOTHING I DID WAS OKAY.

1276
00:39:26,531 --> 00:39:27,991
THE WAY I WAS ACTING, THE WAY I

1277
00:39:28,033 --> 00:39:30,576
WAS TALKING.

1278
00:39:30,618 --> 00:39:33,205
I CAN'T SAY, I DON'T WANT TO

1279
00:39:33,246 --> 00:39:34,164
BLAME IT BEING A HUGE PART OF

1280
00:39:34,206 --> 00:39:35,040
MENTAL HEALTH BUT I TEXTED ZACK

1281
00:39:35,081 --> 00:39:36,291
AND I SAID I'M SO SORRY.

1282
00:39:36,333 --> 00:39:39,127
IT HIT ME, I'VE NEVER TREATED

1283
00:39:39,169 --> 00:39:40,086
SOMEONE SO POORLY AND I'M AT

1284
00:39:40,128 --> 00:39:40,753
THAT.

1285
00:39:40,795 --> 00:39:42,922
AND I DO APOLOGIZE.

1286
00:39:42,964 --> 00:39:44,674
>> Nick: BY THE WAY, I WANT TO

1287
00:39:44,716 --> 00:39:46,259
SAY I THINK YOU CAME ON HERE

1288
00:39:46,301 --> 00:39:48,220
TODAY KNOWING THIS WAS GOING TO

1289
00:39:48,261 --> 00:39:49,262
HAPPEN, TO SOME EXTENT AND I

1290
00:39:49,304 --> 00:39:51,014
WANT TO APPLAUD YOU FOR COMING

1291
00:39:51,056 --> 00:39:52,057
ON HERE AND CONFRONTING IT AND

1292
00:39:52,098 --> 00:39:54,017
DEALING WITH IT AND FOR WHATEVER

1293
00:39:54,059 --> 00:39:56,936
IT'S WORTH, APOLOGIZING FOR IT.

1294
00:39:56,978 --> 00:39:58,855
MICAH, BECAUSE IRINA AND PAUL

1295
00:39:58,897 --> 00:39:59,731
ALSO HAD SOME INTERACTION IN

1296
00:39:59,772 --> 00:40:02,275
MEXICO THAT YOU WERE AWARE OF.

1297
00:40:02,317 --> 00:40:03,651
YOU HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT IT.

1298
00:40:03,693 --> 00:40:07,822
HOW WAS THAT FOR YOU WATCHING

1299
00:40:07,864 --> 00:40:09,366
THOSE FLIRTY MOMENTS?

1300
00:40:09,407 --> 00:40:10,783
>> Vanessa: BECAUSE AT THAT

1301
00:40:10,825 --> 00:40:12,202
POINT, YOU GUYS WERE FRIENDS.

1302
00:40:12,244 --> 00:40:13,452
>> YEAH.

1303
00:40:13,494 --> 00:40:14,871
IT WAS HARD TO SEE OF COURSE.

1304
00:40:14,913 --> 00:40:17,582
I AM SURE IT WAS HARD TO SEE,

1305
00:40:17,623 --> 00:40:19,959
CHELSEA HAD TO SEE WITH KWAME

1306
00:40:20,001 --> 00:40:21,336
AND I.

1307
00:40:21,378 --> 00:40:23,004
I THINK WE BOTH DISRESPECTED OUR

1308
00:40:23,046 --> 00:40:25,631
PARTNERS AND WE DISRESPECTED

1309
00:40:25,673 --> 00:40:27,717
OTHER PEOPLE HERE.

1310
00:40:27,759 --> 00:40:29,886
I THINK THE ONLY THING BOTH OF

1311
00:40:29,928 --> 00:40:31,721
US CAN DO IS OWN UP TO IT AND

1312
00:40:31,763 --> 00:40:34,266
APOLOGIZE AND HOPE TO DO BETTER.

1313
00:40:34,307 --> 00:40:35,934
I THINK THE FACT THAT WE WERE

1314
00:40:35,975 --> 00:40:39,229
REALLY CLOSE MADE IT A LITTLE

1315
00:40:39,271 --> 00:40:40,855
HARDER, I FELT LIKE I WAS

1316
00:40:40,897 --> 00:40:41,689
BLINDSIDED.

1317
00:40:41,731 --> 00:40:42,690
IT MADE ME QUESTION A LOT OF

1318
00:40:42,732 --> 00:40:44,192
THINGS WITH PAUL AND THAT'S

1319
00:40:44,234 --> 00:40:46,485
PROBABLY WHAT HURT ME THE MOST.

1320
00:40:46,527 --> 00:40:48,029
>> Nick: PAUL, FOR YOUR PART

1321
00:40:48,071 --> 00:40:49,072
OF IT, HOW IS IT FOR YOU

1322
00:40:49,114 --> 00:40:49,864
WATCHING YOUR BACK?

1323
00:40:49,906 --> 00:40:51,741
HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT

1324
00:40:51,783 --> 00:40:53,910
FLIRTING MOMENT AND WERE THERE

1325
00:40:53,952 --> 00:40:54,827
OTHERS THAT MAYBE HAPPENED OFF

1326
00:40:54,869 --> 00:40:56,121
CAMERA >> NO, THERE WEREN'T BUT

1327
00:40:56,162 --> 00:40:58,581
I WILL SAY THAT I THINK FROM MY

1328
00:40:58,623 --> 00:41:00,292
PERSPECTIVE, I WAS VERY SECURE.

1329
00:41:00,333 --> 00:41:03,461
IN OUR RELATIONSHIP.

1330
00:41:03,502 --> 00:41:06,756
I KNEW EXACTLY WHERE ZACK STOOD.

1331
00:41:06,798 --> 00:41:08,967
MICAH AND I HAD DELINEATED WHAT

1332
00:41:09,008 --> 00:41:10,427
THE BOUNDARIES WERE OF WHAT'S

1333
00:41:10,468 --> 00:41:11,303
OKAY.

1334
00:41:11,344 --> 00:41:14,639
IN TERMS OF FLIRTING AND WHAT IS

1335
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:15,890
INFIDELITY.

1336
00:41:15,932 --> 00:41:16,766
PHYSICAL INTIMACY WAS THE

1337
00:41:16,808 --> 00:41:18,184
BOUNDARY AND I KNEW WHAT I WAS

1338
00:41:18,226 --> 00:41:19,269
WILLING TO DO AND I WASN'T IN

1339
00:41:19,311 --> 00:41:21,938
ITS FOR THE VERY SAME REASON I

1340
00:41:21,980 --> 00:41:23,440
WASN'T THREATENED WITH THE MICAH

1341
00:41:23,481 --> 00:41:27,485
AND KWAME FLIRTING SCENARIO.

1342
00:41:27,526 --> 00:41:28,987
WE KNEW WHAT WE WERE CAPABLE OF

1343
00:41:29,028 --> 00:41:30,529
DOING AND WHAT WE WERE GOING TO

1344
00:41:30,571 --> 00:41:33,241
DO AND WHAT WE WEREN'T.

1345
00:41:33,283 --> 00:41:34,242
>> Nick: SO THERE WAS A LINE

1346
00:41:34,284 --> 00:41:35,243
AND YOU DON'T FEEL THAT YOU

1347
00:41:35,285 --> 00:41:36,119
CROSS THAT LINE.

1348
00:41:36,161 --> 00:41:39,331
>> I KNEW THERE WAS NO DANGER IN

1349
00:41:39,372 --> 00:41:40,873
TALKING TO IRINA, FLIRTING,

1350
00:41:40,915 --> 00:41:41,749
WHATEVER.

1351
00:41:41,791 --> 00:41:44,377
THERE WAS NO DANGER OF EFFECTING

1352
00:41:44,419 --> 00:41:47,005
EITHER OUR RELATIONSHIP OR THEIR

1353
00:41:47,046 --> 00:41:47,880
RELATIONSHIP.

1354
00:41:47,922 --> 00:41:49,090
>> Vanessa: THE BEAUTY OF THIS

1355
00:41:49,132 --> 00:41:50,008
REUNION IS FOR YOU TO GET A

1356
00:41:50,049 --> 00:41:51,926
CHANCE TO SAY YOUR PIECE, CLEAR

1357
00:41:51,968 --> 00:41:52,969
THINGS UP.

1358
00:41:53,011 --> 00:41:56,806
RUMORS ABOUT BABS.

1359
00:41:56,848 --> 00:41:59,100
I'VE GOT TO TALK ABOUT THIS

1360
00:41:59,142 --> 00:42:00,518
VIDEO.

1361
00:42:00,559 --> 00:42:01,936
YOU ON THE INTERNET ARE SAVAGE.

1362
00:42:01,978 --> 00:42:03,896
Y'ALL FOUND A VIDEO AND YOU

1363
00:42:03,938 --> 00:42:05,815
SLOWED IT DOWN WHERE PAUL IS

1364
00:42:05,857 --> 00:42:07,317
LEAVING THE BRIDAL SUITE, YOU

1365
00:42:07,359 --> 00:42:08,985
PUT IN AN ERA WHERE HE IS TRYING

1366
00:42:09,027 --> 00:42:09,902
TO MOVE HIS WAY OUT OF THE

1367
00:42:09,944 --> 00:42:13,572
BRIDAL SUITE, TAPPING A LITTLE

1368
00:42:13,614 --> 00:42:17,285
BRIDESMAIDS TUSH.

1369
00:42:17,327 --> 00:42:18,661
LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THIS VIDEO

1370
00:42:18,703 --> 00:42:21,539
AND SEE WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT IT.

1371
00:42:21,580 --> 00:42:23,666
>> OUR HISTORY IS HAZY.

1372
00:42:23,708 --> 00:42:25,710
LIKE DRIVING THE POURING RAIN.

1373
00:42:25,751 --> 00:42:31,383
ARE WE INTO DEEP?

1374
00:42:31,424 --> 00:42:33,009
>> Vanessa: THE MUSIC.

1375
00:42:33,051 --> 00:42:34,469
I WILL SAY THE BRIDESMAID SEEMED

1376
00:42:34,511 --> 00:42:36,971
TO LIKE IT, CLEARLY SHE WAS ONE

1377
00:42:37,013 --> 00:42:37,638
THAT WAS TEAM PAUL.

1378
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,807
PAUL IS HERE NOW.

1379
00:42:39,849 --> 00:42:41,226
WHAT THE HECK?

1380
00:42:41,267 --> 00:42:42,143
SERIOUSLY.

1381
00:42:42,185 --> 00:42:44,020
>> TO IMPLY THAT I WAS ANYTHING

1382
00:42:44,062 --> 00:42:47,440
MORE THAN JUST ME GESTURING,

1383
00:42:47,482 --> 00:42:48,149
ACKNOWLEDGING THAT I WAS

1384
00:42:48,191 --> 00:42:49,734
SQUEEZING PAST HER, IT'S

1385
00:42:49,775 --> 00:42:52,404
LITERALLY ABSURD.

1386
00:42:52,445 --> 00:42:54,322
LITERALLY JUST WALKING OUT THE

1387
00:42:54,364 --> 00:42:55,198
DOOR.

1388
00:42:55,240 --> 00:42:56,115
GESTURING, HEY, SORRY I BUMPED

1389
00:42:56,157 --> 00:42:56,699
INTO YOU.

1390
00:42:56,741 --> 00:43:00,161
THAT WAS IT.

1391
00:43:00,203 --> 00:43:01,538
>> Vanessa: SORRY I BUMPED

1392
00:43:01,579 --> 00:43:02,414
INTO YOU.

1393
00:43:02,455 --> 00:43:04,582
>> Nick: YOU CAN BUMP INTO ME

1394
00:43:04,623 --> 00:43:05,417
ANYTIME.

1395
00:43:05,458 --> 00:43:06,667
>> Vanessa: ONE OF THE MOST

1396
00:43:06,709 --> 00:43:08,336
SHOCKING MOMENTS, SPEAKING OF

1397
00:43:08,378 --> 00:43:10,046
YOU, PAUL, WAS LEAVING MICAH

1398
00:43:10,088 --> 00:43:13,049
HEARTBROKEN AT THE ALTAR AFTER

1399
00:43:13,091 --> 00:43:14,259
SAYING NO.

1400
00:43:14,300 --> 00:43:18,430
MICAH, IF PAUL HAD SAID YES,

1401
00:43:18,471 --> 00:43:22,267
WOULD YOU GUYS BE MARRIED TODAY?

1402
00:43:22,308 --> 00:43:29,315
>> UM...

1403
00:43:32,569 --> 00:43:34,320
SORRY.

1404
00:43:34,362 --> 00:43:37,240
>> Vanessa: IT'S OKAY.

1405
00:43:37,282 --> 00:43:44,289
>> Nick: TAKE YOUR TIME.

1406
00:43:46,291 --> 00:43:48,667
>> Vanessa: I HAVE GOT THE

1407
00:43:48,709 --> 00:43:52,505
GOLDEN TISSUE BOX.

1408
00:43:52,547 --> 00:43:53,381
>> SORRY.

1409
00:43:53,423 --> 00:43:55,049
ALL OF THE PRESSURE HAS BEEN OFF

1410
00:43:55,091 --> 00:43:57,427
ME SO I KIND OF FORGOT I WAS

1411
00:43:57,469 --> 00:43:58,094
HERE.

1412
00:43:58,136 --> 00:44:01,680
YEAH, I MEAN.

1413
00:44:01,722 --> 00:44:02,932
I KNEW IN THAT MOMENT THAT THE

1414
00:44:02,974 --> 00:44:06,478
ONLY THING I COULD DO, WHEN I

1415
00:44:06,519 --> 00:44:08,480
WAS ASKED FIRST WAS TO GIVE PAUL

1416
00:44:08,521 --> 00:44:09,939
THE OPPORTUNITY TO ANSWER FIRST

1417
00:44:09,981 --> 00:44:11,690
AND I DON'T CARE WHAT ANYONE

1418
00:44:11,732 --> 00:44:12,900
THINKS WHY I DID IT.

1419
00:44:12,942 --> 00:44:15,320
IT WAS MY LIFE AND MY

1420
00:44:15,361 --> 00:44:16,028
RELATIONSHIP AND A REAL MARRIAGE

1421
00:44:16,070 --> 00:44:17,489
THAT WAS ON THE LINE.

1422
00:44:17,530 --> 00:44:18,490
AND I KNEW THAT I WAS GOING TO

1423
00:44:18,531 --> 00:44:24,412
SAY YES.

1424
00:44:24,454 --> 00:44:26,872
AND I DIDN'T WANT TO SPEND THE

1425
00:44:26,914 --> 00:44:28,958
REST OF OUR LIFE IF HE WAS TO

1426
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:29,875
SAY YES, WONDERING IF HE DID IT

1427
00:44:29,917 --> 00:44:33,546
NOT TO EMBARRASS ME.

1428
00:44:33,588 --> 00:44:35,298
I NEEDED TO KNOW HE DID IT FOR

1429
00:44:35,340 --> 00:44:37,967
HIM AND THE ONLY WAY I COULD GET

1430
00:44:38,009 --> 00:44:39,427
THAT ANSWER WAS FOR HIM TO

1431
00:44:39,469 --> 00:44:40,094
ANSWER FIRST.

1432
00:44:40,136 --> 00:44:42,263
AND I'M HAPPY I DID.

1433
00:44:42,305 --> 00:44:43,889
>> Nick: PAUL, HOW DOES IT

1434
00:44:43,931 --> 00:44:45,517
MAKE YOU FEEL, KNOWING THAT SHE

1435
00:44:45,558 --> 00:44:48,769
WAS READY TO SAY YES?

1436
00:44:48,811 --> 00:44:50,438
>> I DON'T KNOW.

1437
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:55,193
IT'S DIFFICULT I THINK.

1438
00:44:55,234 --> 00:44:57,445
IT'S ALWAYS MORE CLEAR IN

1439
00:44:57,487 --> 00:44:59,447
RETROSPECT.

1440
00:44:59,489 --> 00:45:00,323
I DON'T KNOW.

1441
00:45:00,365 --> 00:45:01,824
>> Nick: LET ME ASK YOU THIS.

1442
00:45:01,866 --> 00:45:08,206
IF SHE HAD NOT KIND OF PUNTED TO

1443
00:45:08,247 --> 00:45:09,624
YOU, WOULDN'T HAVE CHANGED

1444
00:45:09,666 --> 00:45:10,500
ANYTHING?

1445
00:45:10,542 --> 00:45:11,959
>> MY KNEE-JERK REACTION IS NO

1446
00:45:12,001 --> 00:45:13,710
BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE IN DOING

1447
00:45:13,752 --> 00:45:14,837
THINGS, MAKING DECISIONS BASED

1448
00:45:14,879 --> 00:45:16,339
ON OTHER PEOPLE.

1449
00:45:16,381 --> 00:45:19,008
I REALLY DO THINK THAT YOU

1450
00:45:19,050 --> 00:45:20,843
SHOULD OWN YOUR TRUTH AND THAT

1451
00:45:20,885 --> 00:45:21,636
SERVES BOTH PEOPLE IN A

1452
00:45:21,678 --> 00:45:22,595
RELATIONSHIP.

1453
00:45:22,637 --> 00:45:24,055
SO I DON'T THINK THAT I WOULD

1454
00:45:24,096 --> 00:45:24,930
HAVE BUT ALSO I DON'T KNOW WHAT

1455
00:45:24,972 --> 00:45:28,267
THAT FEELS LIKE.

1456
00:45:28,309 --> 00:45:29,394
TO HAVE YOUR PARTNER CHOOSING

1457
00:45:29,435 --> 00:45:30,727
YOU, SAYING YES, AFFIRMING YOU,

1458
00:45:30,769 --> 00:45:32,188
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT FEELS

1459
00:45:32,230 --> 00:45:32,771
LIKE.

1460
00:45:32,813 --> 00:45:33,690
I DON'T KNOW.

1461
00:45:33,730 --> 00:45:35,941
I CAN'T SAY WITH 100% CERTAINTY

1462
00:45:35,983 --> 00:45:37,818
IT WOULDN'T HAVE CHANGED MY

1463
00:45:37,860 --> 00:45:38,735
ANSWER ABOUT MY KNEE-JERK

1464
00:45:38,777 --> 00:45:40,863
REACTION AS I WOULD'VE SAID THE

1465
00:45:40,905 --> 00:45:41,780
SAME THING.

1466
00:45:41,822 --> 00:45:43,533
>> Vanessa: MICAH, THERE WAS A

1467
00:45:43,575 --> 00:45:44,867
MOMENT AFTER YOU RAN OFF AND

1468
00:45:44,909 --> 00:45:47,453
THEY WERE INTERVIEWING PAUL THAT

1469
00:45:47,495 --> 00:45:48,745
HE SAID HE COULDN'T SEE MARRYING

1470
00:45:48,787 --> 00:45:51,040
YOU BECAUSE HE COULDN'T SEE YOU

1471
00:45:51,082 --> 00:45:53,543
AS A MOM.

1472
00:45:53,585 --> 00:45:55,461
WHEN YOU WATCH THAT, HOW DID

1473
00:45:55,503 --> 00:45:56,753
THAT MAKE YOU FEEL?

1474
00:45:56,795 --> 00:46:02,968
>> TERRIBLE.

1475
00:46:03,010 --> 00:46:03,969
I FELT LIKE IT WAS THE WORST

1476
00:46:04,011 --> 00:46:06,723
THING THAT COULD BE SAID ABOUT

1477
00:46:06,763 --> 00:46:08,765
ME.

1478
00:46:08,807 --> 00:46:09,684
>> Vanessa: BECAUSE YOU KNOW

1479
00:46:09,726 --> 00:46:10,809
YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN A GREAT MOM

1480
00:46:10,851 --> 00:46:13,312
AND HE KNEW HOW IMPORTANT IT WAS

1481
00:46:13,354 --> 00:46:14,230
FOR YOU.

1482
00:46:14,272 --> 00:46:15,607
>> IT'S SOMETHING I HAVE TALKED

1483
00:46:15,648 --> 00:46:17,024
ABOUT, HOW IMPORTANT HAVING A

1484
00:46:17,066 --> 00:46:20,111
FAMILY WAS TO ME.

1485
00:46:20,152 --> 00:46:21,778
MY MOM WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE

1486
00:46:21,820 --> 00:46:22,697
ABLE TO HAVE CHILDREN.

1487
00:46:22,739 --> 00:46:27,201
THE FACT THAT WE EVEN SURVIVED.

1488
00:46:27,243 --> 00:46:31,038
IT WAS A MIRACLE.

1489
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:32,164
I DIDN'T HAVE ANY SIBLINGS.

1490
00:46:32,206 --> 00:46:34,917
I DIDN'T HAVE A BIG FAMILY AND

1491
00:46:34,959 --> 00:46:36,252
IT'S SOMETHING I'VE ALWAYS

1492
00:46:36,294 --> 00:46:37,587
WANTED SO BAD AND I HAVE SAID

1493
00:46:37,629 --> 00:46:38,921
THAT.

1494
00:46:38,963 --> 00:46:39,796
I HAVE ALWAYS SAID THAT.

1495
00:46:39,838 --> 00:46:41,716
WE EVEN HAD A DATE JUST A FEW

1496
00:46:41,758 --> 00:46:46,011
DAYS BEFORE OUR WEDDING.

1497
00:46:46,053 --> 00:46:48,431
HE SAID TO ME, HE WAS LIKE, WHAT

1498
00:46:48,473 --> 00:46:50,308
IF I DON'T WANT TO HAVE KIDS

1499
00:46:50,349 --> 00:46:51,225
DOWN THE LINE?

1500
00:46:51,267 --> 00:46:52,809
HE BROUGHT THAT TO ME AND I WAS

1501
00:46:52,851 --> 00:46:53,728
SO UPSET.

1502
00:46:53,770 --> 00:46:55,271
YOU KNOW HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO

1503
00:46:55,313 --> 00:46:56,147
ME.

1504
00:46:56,188 --> 00:46:58,524
TO HEAR HIM SAY THAT, AND I'VE

1505
00:46:58,566 --> 00:46:59,442
NEVER HEARD THIS BEFORE.

1506
00:46:59,484 --> 00:47:00,610
HE HAS NEVER SAID THAT TO ME.

1507
00:47:00,652 --> 00:47:02,153
I'VE NEVER HEARD ABOUT IT.

1508
00:47:02,194 --> 00:47:02,819
AFTER THE WEDDING.

1509
00:47:02,861 --> 00:47:06,031
IT WAS A SHOCK.

1510
00:47:06,073 --> 00:47:06,865
IT HURT.

1511
00:47:06,907 --> 00:47:09,494
>> Vanessa: WHAT WAS IT THAT

1512
00:47:09,535 --> 00:47:10,911
MADE YOU SAY I CAN'T SEE HER AS

1513
00:47:10,953 --> 00:47:12,829
A MOM OR THE MOTHER TO MY

1514
00:47:12,871 --> 00:47:13,748
CHILDREN?

1515
00:47:13,790 --> 00:47:15,625
>> I THINK I PHRASE THAT REALLY

1516
00:47:15,667 --> 00:47:17,001
UNFAIRLY TOWARDS HER.

1517
00:47:17,042 --> 00:47:18,628
I DON'T THINK IT WAS A

1518
00:47:18,670 --> 00:47:19,545
REFLECTION OF WHAT SHE WAS

1519
00:47:19,587 --> 00:47:20,254
CAPABLE OF OR ANYTHING LIKE

1520
00:47:20,296 --> 00:47:21,964
THAT.

1521
00:47:22,006 --> 00:47:26,344
I THINK THE BETTER WAY TO PHRASE

1522
00:47:26,385 --> 00:47:26,927
IT WOULD'VE BEEN I CAN'T SEE US

1523
00:47:26,969 --> 00:47:27,804
AS PARENTS.

1524
00:47:27,844 --> 00:47:29,221
I COULDN'T ENVISION MYSELF, AS

1525
00:47:29,263 --> 00:47:31,056
SHE POINTED OUT, I COULDN'T

1526
00:47:31,098 --> 00:47:31,932
ENVISION MYSELF AS A FATHER JUST

1527
00:47:31,974 --> 00:47:33,768
AS MUCH AS I COULDN'T SEE IN

1528
00:47:33,810 --> 00:47:34,477
HER.

1529
00:47:34,519 --> 00:47:36,979
I WANT TO TAKE 100%

1530
00:47:37,021 --> 00:47:37,854
ACCOUNTABILITY AND

1531
00:47:37,896 --> 00:47:38,523
RESPONSIBILITY FOR MY HALF OF

1532
00:47:38,564 --> 00:47:39,440
THAT EQUATION.

1533
00:47:39,482 --> 00:47:40,316
I THINK IT'S VERY POSSIBLE THAT

1534
00:47:40,358 --> 00:47:41,651
THE REASON WHY I COULDN'T SEE

1535
00:47:41,693 --> 00:47:44,529
THAT IN HER WAS THAT I WASN'T

1536
00:47:44,570 --> 00:47:45,446
INSPIRING THAT IN HER.

1537
00:47:45,488 --> 00:47:47,906
SHE DIDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH

1538
00:47:47,948 --> 00:47:49,033
SHOWING THAT SIDE OF HER.

1539
00:47:49,074 --> 00:47:50,159
>> Vanessa: I THOUGHT SHE SAID

1540
00:47:50,201 --> 00:47:50,909
SHE DID.

1541
00:47:50,951 --> 00:47:53,954
SHE JUST TALKED ABOUT IT.

1542
00:47:53,996 --> 00:47:56,165
FROM THE PODS UP TO YOUR

1543
00:47:56,207 --> 00:47:56,873
WEDDING.

1544
00:47:56,915 --> 00:47:57,750
>> WASN'T EVIDENT TO ME.

1545
00:47:57,792 --> 00:47:59,502
IN MY VISION OF THE FUTURE, THAT

1546
00:47:59,544 --> 00:48:00,378
WASN'T THERE.

1547
00:48:00,419 --> 00:48:02,505
YOU CAN SAY WHATEVER YOU WANT.

1548
00:48:02,547 --> 00:48:04,131
>> Vanessa: YOU WANTED

1549
00:48:04,173 --> 00:48:05,007
ACTIONS?

1550
00:48:05,049 --> 00:48:06,008
>> I WANTED TO BE ABLE TO SEE

1551
00:48:06,050 --> 00:48:08,219
IT, I GUESS.

1552
00:48:08,260 --> 00:48:09,428
>> Vanessa: WHAT WOULD MAKE

1553
00:48:09,470 --> 00:48:10,095
YOU SEE THAT?

1554
00:48:10,137 --> 00:48:10,805
I'M SORRY.

1555
00:48:10,847 --> 00:48:12,014
JUST SO I UNDERSTAND.

1556
00:48:12,056 --> 00:48:13,599
>> I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT

1557
00:48:13,641 --> 00:48:14,851
INEFFABLE.

1558
00:48:14,891 --> 00:48:16,268
IT'S KIND OF IN EXUDING,

1559
00:48:16,310 --> 00:48:17,144
NURTURING PRESENCE.

1560
00:48:17,186 --> 00:48:19,564
IT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU FEEL.

1561
00:48:19,605 --> 00:48:21,273
THERE'S NOT REALLY, LIKE,

1562
00:48:21,315 --> 00:48:23,942
TANGIBLE KIND OF THINGS I DON'T

1563
00:48:23,984 --> 00:48:24,819
THINK.

1564
00:48:24,861 --> 00:48:26,445
>> Nick: YOU DIDN'T SEE ENOUGH

1565
00:48:26,487 --> 00:48:27,530
OF A NURTURING PRESENCE?

1566
00:48:27,572 --> 00:48:28,865
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING?

1567
00:48:28,905 --> 00:48:29,866
>> I THINK SO.

1568
00:48:29,906 --> 00:48:32,702
THERE WAS SOME OF THAT.

1569
00:48:32,744 --> 00:48:35,120
LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT SAYING THAT

1570
00:48:35,162 --> 00:48:35,912
THERE'S ANYTHING ABOUT HER THAT

1571
00:48:35,954 --> 00:48:38,332
IS NOT NURTURING.

1572
00:48:38,374 --> 00:48:40,167
I DIDN'T GIVE HER THE PROPER

1573
00:48:40,209 --> 00:48:40,959
INSPIRATION AND MOTIVATION TO

1574
00:48:41,001 --> 00:48:44,004
SHOW THAT SIDE OF HER.

1575
00:48:44,046 --> 00:48:45,882
>> Vanessa: MICAH, IS THIS

1576
00:48:45,922 --> 00:48:47,216
EXPLANATION MAKING SENSE AND

1577
00:48:47,258 --> 00:48:48,092
SETTLING WITH YOU?

1578
00:48:48,133 --> 00:48:49,761
ARE YOU AS CONFUSED AS I AM?

1579
00:48:49,802 --> 00:48:51,846
>> I'M JUST AS CONFUSED.

1580
00:48:51,888 --> 00:48:53,138
>> Vanessa: I DON'T MEAN IT

1581
00:48:53,180 --> 00:48:54,056
DISRESPECTFULLY.

1582
00:48:54,098 --> 00:48:54,931
I KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE

1583
00:48:54,973 --> 00:48:56,434
SAYING BUT I FEEL LIKE YOU'RE

1584
00:48:56,475 --> 00:48:57,435
DODGING AROUND THE ISSUE.

1585
00:48:57,476 --> 00:48:58,853
IF THERE WAS A SPECIFIC MOMENT

1586
00:48:58,895 --> 00:49:00,479
WHEN YOU ARE LIKE, THAT'S NOT

1587
00:49:00,521 --> 00:49:02,899
WHAT I SEE FOR A WIFE OR MOTHER?

1588
00:49:02,939 --> 00:49:04,358
OR YOU WERE DONE AT THAT POINT?

1589
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,026
YOU DON'T LIKE THIS IS GIVING

1590
00:49:06,068 --> 00:49:07,820
YOU CLOSURE?

1591
00:49:07,862 --> 00:49:13,284
>> I MEAN, WHEN I SAW IT,

1592
00:49:13,325 --> 00:49:14,368
OBVIOUSLY I WAS HEARTBROKEN.

1593
00:49:14,410 --> 00:49:15,952
IT REALLY HURT AND I REACHED OUT

1594
00:49:15,994 --> 00:49:17,329
AND HE MADE ME FEEL LIKE I

1595
00:49:17,371 --> 00:49:19,039
UNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU WERE SAYING.

1596
00:49:19,081 --> 00:49:20,249
OKAY, I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

1597
00:49:20,291 --> 00:49:22,919
BUT THE WAY THEY ARE GOING BACK

1598
00:49:22,959 --> 00:49:24,169
AND FORTH, BACKPEDALING AND

1599
00:49:24,211 --> 00:49:25,379
SAYING ALL THESE DIFFERENT

1600
00:49:25,421 --> 00:49:27,840
THINGS, IT MAKES ME FEEL WORSE.

1601
00:49:27,882 --> 00:49:29,007
>> Vanessa: YOU KNOW WHAT'S

1602
00:49:29,049 --> 00:49:29,926
CRAZY?

1603
00:49:29,966 --> 00:49:31,886
YOU LOVE YOUR MOM AND I THOUGHT

1604
00:49:31,928 --> 00:49:34,513
MICAH AND YOUR MOM WERE LIKE,

1605
00:49:34,555 --> 00:49:35,890
DOPPELGAENGERS.

1606
00:49:35,932 --> 00:49:37,224
THEY GOT ALONG GREAT.

1607
00:49:37,266 --> 00:49:39,351
EVEN YOU SAID, WE HAVE THE SAME

1608
00:49:39,393 --> 00:49:40,227
HERE.

1609
00:49:40,269 --> 00:49:41,562
OH, MY GOD, THIS IS HAPPENING.

1610
00:49:41,604 --> 00:49:42,772
BUT THERE WAS SOMETHING MISSING

1611
00:49:42,814 --> 00:49:44,106
THAT YOU DIDN'T FIND IN HER.

1612
00:49:44,148 --> 00:49:46,943
>> SURE, YEAH.

1613
00:49:46,983 --> 00:49:47,819
THEY ARE AESTHETICALLY

1614
00:49:47,860 --> 00:49:49,403
DOPPELGAENGERS BUT OBVIOUS THE

1615
00:49:49,445 --> 00:49:50,780
EXTERNALLY DIFFERENT

1616
00:49:50,822 --> 00:49:51,697
INDIVIDUALS, PERSONALITY AND

1617
00:49:51,739 --> 00:49:53,449
CHARACTER WISE AND ALL OF THESE

1618
00:49:53,491 --> 00:49:54,366
THINGS.

1619
00:49:54,408 --> 00:49:55,284
THAT'S NOT TO STATES THAT THERE

1620
00:49:55,326 --> 00:49:56,160
WASN'T SOMETHING MISSING.

1621
00:49:56,201 --> 00:49:58,412
I THINK THAT PART OF IT IS TRUE.

1622
00:49:58,454 --> 00:50:01,206
BUT IT'S JUST KIND OF, IT IS

1623
00:50:01,248 --> 00:50:02,166
WHAT IT IS.

1624
00:50:02,207 --> 00:50:03,250
SOME PEOPLE CONNECT IN THAT WAY

1625
00:50:03,292 --> 00:50:06,253
AND ARE ABLE TO SHOW THAT.

1626
00:50:06,295 --> 00:50:07,880
THAT JUST WASN'T EVIDENT IN OUR

1627
00:50:07,922 --> 00:50:08,965
RELATIONSHIP AT THAT POINT IN

1628
00:50:09,005 --> 00:50:09,799
TIME.

1629
00:50:09,841 --> 00:50:11,509
I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT IT

1630
00:50:11,550 --> 00:50:14,010
WASN'T SOMETHING THAT I BELIEVED

1631
00:50:14,052 --> 00:50:15,638
WAS JUST NEVER GOING TO OCCUR.

1632
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,055
I THOUGHT THAT COULD BE

1633
00:50:17,097 --> 00:50:18,724
SOMETHING THAT WAS DEVELOPED

1634
00:50:18,766 --> 00:50:19,558
OVER TIME.

1635
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,687
I WAS ENTIRELY OPEN TO THAT

1636
00:50:22,728 --> 00:50:23,562
OCCURRING.

1637
00:50:23,604 --> 00:50:24,563
BUT IT JUST DIDN'T HAPPEN IN THE

1638
00:50:24,605 --> 00:50:27,232
TIMELINE THAT WE HAD.

1639
00:50:27,274 --> 00:50:29,443
>> THEN WHY DID I NOT HEAR ABOUT

1640
00:50:29,485 --> 00:50:30,402
IT UNTIL FRIDAY?

1641
00:50:30,444 --> 00:50:31,529
I'VE NEVER HEARD THAT FROM YOU.

1642
00:50:31,570 --> 00:50:33,155
YOU'VE NEVER BROUGHT THAT UP TO

1643
00:50:33,197 --> 00:50:34,030
ME.

1644
00:50:34,072 --> 00:50:36,492
>> WE WERE DONE DATING LIKE 12

1645
00:50:36,534 --> 00:50:37,368
MONTHS AGO.

1646
00:50:37,409 --> 00:50:39,161
>> YOU DIDN'T TELL ME WHILE WE

1647
00:50:39,203 --> 00:50:40,329
WERE ENGAGED?

1648
00:50:40,371 --> 00:50:41,831
YOU DIDN'T TELL ME WE DATED

1649
00:50:41,873 --> 00:50:43,374
AFTER THE SHOW.

1650
00:50:43,415 --> 00:50:44,500
I'VE NEVER HEARD THIS UNTIL I

1651
00:50:44,542 --> 00:50:45,626
SAW IT ON TV.

1652
00:50:45,668 --> 00:50:47,127
>> I'M NOT GOING TO CRITICIZE

1653
00:50:47,169 --> 00:50:47,879
YOU.

1654
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:48,838
OH, YOU NEED TO BE MORE

1655
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:49,714
NURTURING.

1656
00:50:49,755 --> 00:50:51,007
THAT HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT

1657
00:50:51,047 --> 00:50:51,883
COMES ORGANICALLY.

1658
00:50:51,924 --> 00:50:53,300
>> IF IT IS THE REASON TO SAY NO

1659
00:50:53,342 --> 00:50:55,135
AT THE ALTAR, IT IS SOMETHING I

1660
00:50:55,177 --> 00:50:58,347
SHOULD'VE BEEN TOLD OR TALKED TO

1661
00:50:58,389 --> 00:51:00,683
ABOUT AND NOT BE BLINDSIDED.

1662
00:51:00,725 --> 00:51:02,434
>> CAN I SAY SOMETHING?

1663
00:51:02,476 --> 00:51:03,978
>> Vanessa: SURE, SACK.

1664
00:51:04,020 --> 00:51:05,061
>> I SPOKE TO PAUL THE NIGHT

1665
00:51:05,103 --> 00:51:06,271
BEFORE THE WEDDING.

1666
00:51:06,313 --> 00:51:09,025
HE WAS UP UNTIL, WE WERE TALKING

1667
00:51:09,107 --> 00:51:10,651
UNTIL 2:00 A.M. AT NIGHT.

1668
00:51:10,693 --> 00:51:11,861
>> Vanessa: PROBABLY VERY LONG

1669
00:51:11,903 --> 00:51:14,822
TALK BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU.

1670
00:51:14,864 --> 00:51:15,865
>> PAUL HAD NO IDEA.

1671
00:51:15,907 --> 00:51:18,158
HE WAS COMPLETELY TORN.

1672
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,619
UP TO THAT POINT.

1673
00:51:20,661 --> 00:51:22,038
I CAN TELL YOU HOW LONG WE

1674
00:51:22,078 --> 00:51:23,497
TALKED ABOUT THE DECISION HE WAS

1675
00:51:23,539 --> 00:51:25,875
GOING TO MAKE.

1676
00:51:25,917 --> 00:51:30,128
I DON'T, I THINK HE WAS

1677
00:51:30,170 --> 00:51:33,007
GENUINELY 100% IN LOVE WITH

1678
00:51:33,049 --> 00:51:35,091
MICAH AND HE JUST DIDN'T FEEL

1679
00:51:35,133 --> 00:51:36,343
CONFIDENT IN MAKING A DECISION

1680
00:51:36,385 --> 00:51:37,720
THAT WAS GOING TO AFFECT THEM

1681
00:51:37,762 --> 00:51:39,221
FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIFE.

1682
00:51:39,263 --> 00:51:41,265
IT JUST FELT LIKE HE WASN'T

1683
00:51:41,306 --> 00:51:42,140
CERTAIN.

1684
00:51:42,182 --> 00:51:42,975
HE DIDN'T HAVE THAT CERTAINTY.

1685
00:51:43,017 --> 00:51:44,476
I THINK I THINK THAT PEOPLE

1686
00:51:44,518 --> 00:51:45,811
THROW OUT HERE IS LIKE, THE

1687
00:51:45,853 --> 00:51:47,187
SHORT TIME.

1688
00:51:47,229 --> 00:51:50,733
LACK OF MAKING THAT DECISION.

1689
00:51:50,775 --> 00:51:52,317
AND, LIKE, YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE

1690
00:51:52,359 --> 00:51:53,986
TO HAVE CONFIDENCE OR AT LEAST

1691
00:51:54,028 --> 00:51:54,779
ENOUGH CONFIDENCE TO TAKE A

1692
00:51:54,820 --> 00:51:57,698
JUMP.

1693
00:51:57,740 --> 00:51:59,658
PAUL REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT THIS

1694
00:51:59,700 --> 00:52:00,576
INCREDIBLY DEEPLY.

1695
00:52:00,618 --> 00:52:02,160
IT WASN'T SOMETHING HE WAS JUST

1696
00:52:02,202 --> 00:52:03,037
LIKE --

1697
00:52:03,079 --> 00:52:03,788
>> Vanessa: I DON'T THINK ANY

1698
00:52:03,829 --> 00:52:04,747
OF US TAKE FOR GRANTED.

1699
00:52:04,789 --> 00:52:06,498
WE DON'T THINK HE THREW IT TO

1700
00:52:06,540 --> 00:52:07,917
THE WIND BUT MICAH BROUGHT UP A

1701
00:52:07,959 --> 00:52:08,918
GOOD POINT THAT IF THAT'S THE

1702
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:09,794
REASON OR THE BIGGEST REASON

1703
00:52:09,835 --> 00:52:11,003
THAT MAYBE YOU SAID NO I THINK

1704
00:52:11,045 --> 00:52:12,964
SHE'S RIGHT, SHE DESERVED TO

1705
00:52:13,005 --> 00:52:15,883
KNOW AND ESPECIALLY IF YOU LOVED

1706
00:52:15,925 --> 00:52:17,843
HER AS MUCH AS YOU SAW, ZACK,

1707
00:52:17,885 --> 00:52:20,304
AND SHE FELT.

1708
00:52:20,345 --> 00:52:22,264
SHE WAS ABOUT TO SAY YES.

1709
00:52:22,306 --> 00:52:23,139
>> I COULD HAVE DONE A BETTER

1710
00:52:23,181 --> 00:52:25,476
JOB COMMUNICATING THE THINGS I

1711
00:52:25,517 --> 00:52:26,351
FELT WERE MISSING.

1712
00:52:26,393 --> 00:52:28,395
>> Nick: DID YOU THINK SHE WAS

1713
00:52:28,437 --> 00:52:29,480
JUST INCAPABLE OF THAT?

1714
00:52:29,521 --> 00:52:30,856
WHY WOULDN'T YOU BRING IT UP?

1715
00:52:30,898 --> 00:52:34,276
>> I DON'T THINK SHE'S INCAPABLE

1716
00:52:34,318 --> 00:52:35,319
OF IT.

1717
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:35,903
NOT ME DEMANDING YOU BE THIS WAY

1718
00:52:35,945 --> 00:52:39,490
FOR ME.

1719
00:52:39,531 --> 00:52:41,117
I APPRECIATE WHO YOU ARE AND

1720
00:52:41,157 --> 00:52:41,993
SEEING THAT.

1721
00:52:42,034 --> 00:52:43,953
YOU CAN'T JUST REQUEST PEOPLE TO

1722
00:52:43,995 --> 00:52:46,038
BE A CERTAIN WAY.

1723
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:47,539
AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY

1724
00:52:47,581 --> 00:52:48,415
ARE.

1725
00:52:48,457 --> 00:52:49,708
THEN IF THEY DO THAT AND THEY

1726
00:52:49,750 --> 00:52:51,961
CHANGE THEMSELVES TO PLEASE YOU,

1727
00:52:52,003 --> 00:52:53,295
EVENTUALLY THEY'RE GOING TO

1728
00:52:53,337 --> 00:52:54,505
BEGIN TO RESENT THAT.

1729
00:52:54,546 --> 00:52:55,589
THAT FACADE IS GOING TO BREAK

1730
00:52:55,631 --> 00:52:57,424
DOWN AND THEN YOU'RE NOT GOING

1731
00:52:57,466 --> 00:53:00,260
TO RECOGNIZE THAT PERSON AND

1732
00:53:00,302 --> 00:53:01,512
THEN YOUR RELATIONSHIP WILL

1733
00:53:01,553 --> 00:53:02,220
DISSOLVE.

1734
00:53:02,262 --> 00:53:02,930
IT HAS TO BE ORGANIC.

1735
00:53:02,972 --> 00:53:05,141
IT HAS TO BE NATURAL.

1736
00:53:05,181 --> 00:53:06,934
>> Vanessa: I THINK ANOTHER

1737
00:53:06,976 --> 00:53:10,938
CHARACTER PEOPLE REMEMBER IS

1738
00:53:10,980 --> 00:53:11,856
MICAH'S FRIEND, SHELBY.

1739
00:53:11,897 --> 00:53:14,900
BEFORE I GET INTO ALL OF THAT,

1740
00:53:14,942 --> 00:53:15,693
DO YOU ACTUALLY THINK SHE WAS

1741
00:53:15,734 --> 00:53:18,445
RIGHT IN RETROSPECT WHEN SHE

1742
00:53:18,487 --> 00:53:19,195
SAID HE WASN'T THE RIGHT ONE FOR

1743
00:53:19,237 --> 00:53:21,365
YOU?

1744
00:53:21,406 --> 00:53:23,826
>> UM, I THINK A LOT OF SHELBY'S

1745
00:53:23,868 --> 00:53:25,452
CONCERNS LIED IN THE FACT THAT

1746
00:53:25,494 --> 00:53:29,748
THINGS ARE MOVING TOO QUICKLY.

1747
00:53:29,790 --> 00:53:31,333
SHE DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS GOING

1748
00:53:31,375 --> 00:53:32,918
TO WORK AND SHE DIDN'T WANT ME

1749
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,420
TO HAVE MY HEART BROKEN, WHICH

1750
00:53:35,462 --> 00:53:36,254
IT DID.

1751
00:53:36,296 --> 00:53:37,506
IN THAT WAY, I THINK SHE WAS

1752
00:53:37,548 --> 00:53:39,091
RIGHT.

1753
00:53:39,133 --> 00:53:41,719
I THINK SHE HAS A TERRIBLE

1754
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:42,928
DELIVERY.

1755
00:53:42,970 --> 00:53:43,846
WHICH I UNDERSTAND.

1756
00:53:43,888 --> 00:53:47,474
I DO TOO.

1757
00:53:47,516 --> 00:53:49,143
BUT SHE NEVER, SHE NEVER WANTED

1758
00:53:49,185 --> 00:53:51,187
ME TO GET HURT.

1759
00:53:51,227 --> 00:53:52,354
THAT WAS THE BOTTOM LINE.

1760
00:53:52,396 --> 00:53:54,106
SHE NEVER WANTED ME TO RUN OFF

1761
00:53:54,148 --> 00:53:54,982
THE ALTAR CRYING.

1762
00:53:55,024 --> 00:53:56,441
SHE NEVER WANTED ME TO HAVE A

1763
00:53:56,483 --> 00:53:59,361
FAILED MARRIAGE, THAT'S WHERE SO

1764
00:53:59,403 --> 00:54:02,823
MUCH OF HER FEELINGS CAME FROM.

1765
00:54:02,865 --> 00:54:05,117
AND I THINK EVEN WHEN THEY FIRST

1766
00:54:05,159 --> 00:54:06,869
MET AT SHELBY'S BIRTHDAY PARTY,

1767
00:54:06,911 --> 00:54:10,748
I REMEMBER MY FRIENDS ASKED

1768
00:54:10,789 --> 00:54:12,499
PAUL, WHAT DO YOU LOVE ABOUT

1769
00:54:12,541 --> 00:54:13,375
MICAH?

1770
00:54:13,417 --> 00:54:17,295
AND HE WAS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW.

1771
00:54:17,337 --> 00:54:18,380
IT WASN'T BECAUSE HE DIDN'T LOVE

1772
00:54:18,422 --> 00:54:19,215
ME.

1773
00:54:19,255 --> 00:54:20,841
I KNOW HE LOVES ME.

1774
00:54:20,883 --> 00:54:21,759
OR LOVED ME.

1775
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:23,635
BUT A LOT OF THEIR CONCERN CAME

1776
00:54:23,677 --> 00:54:24,595
FROM, IT DIDN'T FEEL NATURAL.

1777
00:54:24,636 --> 00:54:27,056
HE DIDN'T FEEL LIKE IT WAS EASY

1778
00:54:27,098 --> 00:54:28,140
FOR EITHER OF US AND WE ARE BOTH

1779
00:54:28,182 --> 00:54:29,265
TRYING TO GET THERE.

1780
00:54:29,307 --> 00:54:30,434
WE WERE SO IN LOVE BUT I DON'T

1781
00:54:30,475 --> 00:54:32,477
THINK WE KNEW WHAT THE FUTURE

1782
00:54:32,519 --> 00:54:33,478
LOOK LIKE.

1783
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,565
SHE WAS CONCERNED THAT MARRIAGE

1784
00:54:36,607 --> 00:54:37,691
WOULD FAIL.

1785
00:54:37,733 --> 00:54:39,401
>> Vanessa: NOT TO CALL Y'ALL

1786
00:54:39,443 --> 00:54:43,239
OUT BUT WE ARE DOING REUNION AND

1787
00:54:43,279 --> 00:54:48,619
I SAW SOME WHISPERING, ZACK.

1788
00:54:48,660 --> 00:54:49,620
WHAT DID YOU TELL PAUL?

1789
00:54:49,661 --> 00:54:51,830
>> I'M GOING TO BE REAL HERE,

1790
00:54:51,872 --> 00:54:52,623
MICAH.

1791
00:54:52,664 --> 00:54:53,498
YOU ARE COMING AFTER PAUL.

1792
00:54:53,540 --> 00:54:55,084
THIS WHOLE TIME DURING THIS

1793
00:54:55,126 --> 00:54:56,835
ENTIRE TIME THE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN

1794
00:54:56,877 --> 00:54:57,669
ATTACKING YOU.

1795
00:54:57,711 --> 00:54:58,754
PAUL HAS TRIED TO MAKE PEACE

1796
00:54:58,796 --> 00:55:00,089
WITH YOU THIS ENTIRE TIME AND I

1797
00:55:00,131 --> 00:55:01,632
SEE YOU OVER THERE AND I

1798
00:55:01,673 --> 00:55:03,008
UNDERSTAND THIS IS HARD.

1799
00:55:03,050 --> 00:55:06,637
IT LOOKS LIKE --

1800
00:55:06,678 --> 00:55:07,888
YEAH, I'M SORRY.

1801
00:55:07,930 --> 00:55:09,974
IT MAKES ME REALLY ANGRY BECAUSE

1802
00:55:10,015 --> 00:55:11,058
IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE HERE FOR

1803
00:55:11,100 --> 00:55:14,019
BLOOD AND IT SEEMS LIKE HE'S

1804
00:55:14,061 --> 00:55:14,937
APOLOGIZING OVER HERE, TAKING

1805
00:55:14,979 --> 00:55:18,899
ACCOUNTABILITY FOR HIS ACTIONS.

1806
00:55:18,941 --> 00:55:21,652
WHAT I WHISPERED TO PAUL WAS,

1807
00:55:21,693 --> 00:55:22,444
WHAT WAS HAPPENING BEHIND

1808
00:55:22,486 --> 00:55:24,822
CAMERAS IS NOT WHAT YOU'RE

1809
00:55:24,863 --> 00:55:25,781
SEEING.

1810
00:55:25,823 --> 00:55:27,574
WHAT SHE WAS SAYING ABOUT PAUL,

1811
00:55:27,616 --> 00:55:30,995
PEOPLE HAVE TOLD ME ABOUT THE

1812
00:55:31,036 --> 00:55:32,204
CONVERSATIONS THAT SHE HAD, IT

1813
00:55:32,246 --> 00:55:33,455
SOUNDS LIKE SHE NEVER WAS

1814
00:55:33,497 --> 00:55:35,457
TALKING ABOUT GETTING MARRIED TO

1815
00:55:35,499 --> 00:55:36,332
PAUL.

1816
00:55:36,374 --> 00:55:37,209
THERE ARE WOMEN HERE WHO HAVE

1817
00:55:37,251 --> 00:55:40,712
TOLD ME THAT AND JUST TO COME

1818
00:55:40,754 --> 00:55:42,798
OUT HERE AND TRY TO MAKE PAUL

1819
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:44,091
LOOK LIKE THIS REALLY BAD GUY

1820
00:55:44,133 --> 00:55:45,009
THAT HE'S NOT.

1821
00:55:45,050 --> 00:55:47,011
>> I HAVE NO INTENTION OF DOING

1822
00:55:47,052 --> 00:55:47,886
THAT.

1823
00:55:47,928 --> 00:55:48,887
>> YOU NEVER DEFENDED HIM IN THE

1824
00:55:48,929 --> 00:55:51,223
ENTIRE INTERACTION.

1825
00:55:51,265 --> 00:55:52,557
>> Vanessa: THERE'S A LOT TO

1826
00:55:52,599 --> 00:55:53,225
UNPACK.

1827
00:55:53,267 --> 00:55:55,519
>> THAT'S NOT TRUE.

1828
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:56,478
WERE YOU THERE?

1829
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:57,479
WERE YOU THERE?

1830
00:55:57,521 --> 00:55:59,355
ME AND PAUL HAVE TALKED ABOUT

1831
00:55:59,397 --> 00:56:00,274
WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED WHEN HE

1832
00:56:00,316 --> 00:56:01,525
MET HER FRIENDS.

1833
00:56:01,566 --> 00:56:02,734
WE HUNG OUT THE ENTIRE

1834
00:56:02,776 --> 00:56:03,652
EXPERIENCE, ALL THREE OF US.

1835
00:56:03,694 --> 00:56:05,696
WE WERE ALL FRIENDS.

1836
00:56:05,737 --> 00:56:06,947
YEAH, HE LOOKED TERRIBLE BUT YOU

1837
00:56:06,989 --> 00:56:07,865
WERE THERE.

1838
00:56:07,906 --> 00:56:09,407
YOU ARE NOT SOMEONE IS GOING TO

1839
00:56:09,449 --> 00:56:10,784
SIT HERE AND BELIEVE THE EDIT

1840
00:56:10,826 --> 00:56:16,957
PAIR YOU SAW HOW WEIRD SHIT

1841
00:56:16,999 --> 00:56:18,000
LOOKED FOR YOU.

1842
00:56:18,042 --> 00:56:19,960
I AM NOT HERE TO ATTACK PAUL.

1843
00:56:20,002 --> 00:56:21,586
YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE

1844
00:56:21,628 --> 00:56:22,671
THINGS THAT I HAVE HEARD THAT

1845
00:56:22,713 --> 00:56:24,506
REALLY HURT AND UPSET ME, I JUST

1846
00:56:24,548 --> 00:56:25,423
FOUND OUT.

1847
00:56:25,465 --> 00:56:28,135
I AM NOT HERE TO ATTACK HIM.

1848
00:56:28,177 --> 00:56:30,262
I'M HERE BECAUSE I'M HURT AND I

1849
00:56:30,304 --> 00:56:31,680
WANT ANSWERS ABOUT THINGS THAT

1850
00:56:31,722 --> 00:56:34,099
I'D NEVER HEARD BEFORE.

1851
00:56:34,141 --> 00:56:37,393
>> Vanessa: ZACK, YOU SAID YOU

1852
00:56:37,435 --> 00:56:40,231
THINK SHE DIDN'T WANT TO MARRY

1853
00:56:40,272 --> 00:56:41,065
PAUL EVER?

1854
00:56:41,106 --> 00:56:42,107
>> THERE HAVE BEEN WOMEN WHO

1855
00:56:42,149 --> 00:56:44,068
HAVE TOLD ME THAT IN THE

1856
00:56:44,109 --> 00:56:45,610
CONVERSATIONS THEY HAD WITH HER,

1857
00:56:45,652 --> 00:56:46,820
VERY RARELY DID SHE MENTION

1858
00:56:46,862 --> 00:56:49,781
ACTUALLY GETTING MARRIED TO PAUL

1859
00:56:49,823 --> 00:56:50,532
PAUL.

1860
00:56:50,574 --> 00:56:52,408
>> Vanessa: WOMEN HERE.

1861
00:56:52,450 --> 00:56:53,451
THERE'S THREE, FOUR OTHERS.

1862
00:56:53,493 --> 00:56:54,578
I CAN COUNT.

1863
00:56:54,619 --> 00:56:56,163
I DON'T WANT TO PUT YOU ON THE

1864
00:56:56,205 --> 00:56:57,873
SPOT AND MAKE YOU NAME NAMES

1865
00:56:57,915 --> 00:57:00,876
BECAUSE THERE'S PROBABLY A COLD

1866
00:57:00,918 --> 00:57:02,544
GOING ON BUT YOU ARE SAYING

1867
00:57:02,586 --> 00:57:03,170
CERTAINLY THAT SHE DIDN'T WANT

1868
00:57:03,212 --> 00:57:05,964
TO MARRY HIM.

1869
00:57:06,006 --> 00:57:07,216
>> IT WAS RARELY MENTIONED AND

1870
00:57:07,258 --> 00:57:07,966
IT SEEMS TO BE THE OPINIONS THAT

1871
00:57:08,008 --> 00:57:10,094
I'VE HEARD.

1872
00:57:10,135 --> 00:57:12,054
WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT WHEN I

1873
00:57:12,096 --> 00:57:13,764
WAS IN THE CAR, FROM MY OWN

1874
00:57:13,805 --> 00:57:15,849
EXPERIENCES WITH MICAH, DRIVING

1875
00:57:15,891 --> 00:57:17,935
HER BACK.

1876
00:57:17,976 --> 00:57:19,811
SHE WOULD TALK PRETTY BADLY

1877
00:57:19,853 --> 00:57:20,854
ABOUT PAUL.

1878
00:57:20,896 --> 00:57:21,980
>> Vanessa: CAN I ASK?

1879
00:57:22,022 --> 00:57:23,107
WAS IT CHELSEA?

1880
00:57:23,148 --> 00:57:25,109
>> I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE

1881
00:57:25,150 --> 00:57:26,902
RELATIONSHIP.

1882
00:57:28,946 --> 00:57:30,697
>> I THINK THEY WERE GOING

1883
00:57:30,739 --> 00:57:31,907
THROUGH THIS EXPERIENCE.

1884
00:57:35,869 --> 00:57:37,246
>> THERE WERE TIMES WHEN ME AND

1885
00:57:37,288 --> 00:57:39,123
ZACK, DO YOU THINK WE ARE GOING

1886
00:57:39,164 --> 00:57:40,999
TO GET MARRIED?

1887
00:57:41,041 --> 00:57:42,709
WE ARE ON A TV SHOW.

1888
00:57:42,751 --> 00:57:44,962
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING.

1889
00:57:45,003 --> 00:57:46,546
SO MANY COUPLE SAID THEY DIDN'T

1890
00:57:46,588 --> 00:57:47,381
KNOW.

1891
00:57:47,423 --> 00:57:48,966
>> Vanessa: A TV SHOW THAT'S

1892
00:57:49,007 --> 00:57:50,008
CALLED "LOVE IS BLIND" WHERE YOU

1893
00:57:50,050 --> 00:57:51,427
SAY I DO OR I DON'T AT THE

1894
00:57:51,468 --> 00:57:52,303
ALTAR.

1895
00:57:52,344 --> 00:57:55,973
>> NOT KNOWING WHAT TO EXPECT.

1896
00:57:56,014 --> 00:57:57,141
>> Vanessa: WE HAVE SOME

1897
00:57:57,182 --> 00:57:58,016
CLARITY.

1898
00:57:58,058 --> 00:58:00,269
>> Nick: DID YOU TRY AND DATE

1899
00:58:00,311 --> 00:58:02,813
AFTER THE WEDDING DAY?

1900
00:58:02,854 --> 00:58:03,480
YOU DID?

1901
00:58:03,521 --> 00:58:06,024
>> Vanessa: YOU DID?

1902
00:58:06,066 --> 00:58:06,942
HOW LONG?

1903
00:58:06,984 --> 00:58:08,235
>> PRETTY BRIEF HERE IN SEATTLE.

1904
00:58:08,277 --> 00:58:11,280
SHE HAD TO GO BACK TO ARIZONA.

1905
00:58:11,322 --> 00:58:14,325
I VISITED HER IN ARIZONA.

1906
00:58:14,366 --> 00:58:16,285
BRIEFLY FOR LIKE A WEEKEND.

1907
00:58:16,327 --> 00:58:18,620
IT ENDED PRETTY QUICKLY AFTER

1908
00:58:18,662 --> 00:58:19,621
THAT.

1909
00:58:19,663 --> 00:58:20,456
>> Vanessa: OKAY.

1910
00:58:20,497 --> 00:58:24,126
I WILL SAY, AGAIN, YOU WENT

1911
00:58:24,168 --> 00:58:25,627
THROUGH IT AND WE WILL NEVER BE

1912
00:58:25,669 --> 00:58:27,004
ABLE TO UNDERSTAND IT BECAUSE

1913
00:58:27,045 --> 00:58:28,172
SINCE SEASON 1 WE BEEN A LITTLE

1914
00:58:28,213 --> 00:58:31,258
BIT MORE REMOVED BECAUSE IT'S

1915
00:58:31,300 --> 00:58:32,176
YOUR JOURNEY.

1916
00:58:32,217 --> 00:58:33,927
ON ANOTHER SIDE I DON'T THINK A

1917
00:58:33,969 --> 00:58:35,637
LOT OF PEOPLE ARE HERE, MICAH,

1918
00:58:35,679 --> 00:58:36,888
THINKING THAT YOU'RE OUT FOR

1919
00:58:36,930 --> 00:58:37,764
BLOOD.

1920
00:58:37,806 --> 00:58:38,598
YOU WANT SOME ANSWERS AND YOU

1921
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:39,599
ARE HURT AS WELL.

1922
00:58:39,641 --> 00:58:40,934
I THINK YOU HAVE SAID YOUR PIECE

1923
00:58:40,976 --> 00:58:42,769
AND WE THANK YOU FOR COMING ON

1924
00:58:42,811 --> 00:58:44,562
AND SHARING YOUR JOURNEY AND

1925
00:58:44,604 --> 00:58:46,398
BEING EXTREMELY VULNERABLE.

1926
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,608
I KNOW IT'S NOT EASY, ESPECIALLY

1927
00:58:48,650 --> 00:58:50,568
THE FOURTH WALL OF SOCIAL MEDIA.

1928
00:58:50,610 --> 00:58:52,737
>> Nick: LET'S MOVE ON, TIME

1929
00:58:52,779 --> 00:58:54,156
TO TALK ABOUT OUR THIRD LOVE

1930
00:58:54,198 --> 00:58:56,158
TRIANGLE THIS SEASON, THAT IS A

1931
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:57,784
TRIANGLE OF MARSHALL, JACKIE,

1932
00:58:57,826 --> 00:58:59,536
AND JOSH.

1933
00:58:59,577 --> 00:59:01,288
YOU MAY HAVE SEEMED LIKE JOSH

1934
00:59:01,330 --> 00:59:02,373
CAME OUT OF NOWHERE TO SWEEP

1935
00:59:02,414 --> 00:59:04,041
JACKIE OFF HER FEET BUT SPOILER

1936
00:59:04,082 --> 00:59:05,667
ALERT, IF YOU'RE NOT ON

1937
00:59:05,709 --> 00:59:07,044
SOCIAL MEDIA, THEY ARE STILL

1938
00:59:07,085 --> 00:59:07,919
VERY HAPPILY TOGETHER.

1939
00:59:07,961 --> 00:59:09,171
LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT HOW THIS

1940
00:59:09,213 --> 00:59:10,547
ALL STARTED WAY BACK IN THE

1941
00:59:10,588 --> 00:59:11,589
PODS.

1942
00:59:11,631 --> 00:59:12,632
CHECK IT OUT.

1943
00:59:14,718 --> 00:59:15,760
>> HOW IS IT GOING?

1944
00:59:15,802 --> 00:59:16,928
>> GOOD, HOW ARE YOU.

1945
00:59:16,970 --> 00:59:18,889
I WAS WORRIED ABOUT YOU.

1946
00:59:19,639 --> 00:59:20,640
>> WHAT'S GOOD WITH YOU?

1947
00:59:20,682 --> 00:59:21,558
I AM FINE.

1948
00:59:21,599 --> 00:59:22,184
I'M ALIVE.

1949
00:59:22,226 --> 00:59:23,935
HELLO.

1950
00:59:23,977 --> 00:59:25,062
I'M TRYING MY BEST.

1951
00:59:25,103 --> 00:59:26,313
HOW ARE YOU?

1952
00:59:26,355 --> 00:59:27,231
>> ALL RIGHT.

1953
00:59:27,272 --> 00:59:28,273
CHILLING.

1954
00:59:28,315 --> 00:59:30,526
>> AS SOON AS I HEAR YOUR VOICE,

1955
00:59:30,608 --> 00:59:38,075
I'M INSTANTLY COMFORTABLE.

1956
00:59:38,116 --> 00:59:43,580
THIS BIG, WE ARE FOR REAL, REAL

1957
00:59:43,621 --> 00:59:44,622
DOGGING.

1958
00:59:44,664 --> 00:59:47,709
YOU ARE EASY TO TALK TO, YOU ARE

1959
00:59:47,751 --> 00:59:48,710
FUNNY AS SHIT.

1960
00:59:48,752 --> 00:59:51,838
I LOVE OUR CONNECTION, FOR REAL.

1961
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:53,424
>> IS IT A PROBLEM, I KNOW YOUR

1962
00:59:53,465 --> 00:59:58,887
OTHER GUY, HE'S VERY ROMANTIC

1963
00:59:58,929 --> 01:00:01,056
AND TOUCHY --

1964
01:00:01,098 --> 01:00:03,767
NOT TOUCHY-FEELY BUT JUST, I'M

1965
01:00:03,808 --> 01:00:04,351
NOT, LIKE, --

1966
01:00:04,393 --> 01:00:04,976
>> SOFT?

1967
01:00:05,018 --> 01:00:06,770
>> I'M NOT CRYING.

1968
01:00:06,811 --> 01:00:07,854
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING?

1969
01:00:07,896 --> 01:00:10,524
>> MAYBE YOU ARE JUST TOO HARD.

1970
01:00:10,566 --> 01:00:11,483
WE ARE BOTH SCARED.

1971
01:00:11,525 --> 01:00:15,362
I THINK WITH TIME, WE JUST HAVE

1972
01:00:15,404 --> 01:00:17,072
TO LEARN HOW TO GIVE OURSELVES

1973
01:00:17,114 --> 01:00:17,989
GRACE.

1974
01:00:18,031 --> 01:00:20,284
WE ARE SO HARD ON OURSELVES AND

1975
01:00:20,325 --> 01:00:21,034
WE HAVE TO JUST UNDERSTAND THIS

1976
01:00:21,076 --> 01:00:24,871
IS A HARD, LONG PROCESS.

1977
01:00:24,913 --> 01:00:28,125
IT'S A LONG ROAD.

1978
01:00:28,166 --> 01:00:30,461
IT'S ABOUT PERSONAL GROWTH TOO,

1979
01:00:30,502 --> 01:00:31,295
YOU KNOW?

1980
01:00:31,336 --> 01:00:32,921
>> YEAH BUT I DO WANT YOU TO

1981
01:00:32,963 --> 01:00:33,505
KNOW THAT I REALLY CARE ABOUT

1982
01:00:33,547 --> 01:00:34,214
YOU.

1983
01:00:34,256 --> 01:00:37,008
>> I CARE ABOUT YOU TOO.

1984
01:00:37,050 --> 01:00:39,928
>> I ENJOY EVERY MOMENT WITH YOU

1985
01:00:39,970 --> 01:00:40,804
YOU.

1986
01:00:40,845 --> 01:00:41,972
I'M NOT JUST SAYING THAT JUST TO

1987
01:00:42,013 --> 01:00:42,722
SAY IT.

1988
01:00:42,764 --> 01:00:44,391
>> NO, I FEEL THE SAME.

1989
01:00:44,433 --> 01:00:47,269
>> WITH US, IT'S JUST NOT

1990
01:00:47,311 --> 01:00:47,936
FORCED.

1991
01:00:47,978 --> 01:00:48,937
>> IT COMES NATURAL.

1992
01:00:48,979 --> 01:00:53,233
LIKE POOP.

1993
01:00:53,275 --> 01:00:55,319
>> LET'S NOT GO THERE.

1994
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:56,820
>> Vanessa: IT COMES NATURAL.

1995
01:00:56,861 --> 01:01:02,033
LIKE POOP.

1996
01:01:02,075 --> 01:01:04,786
>> Nick: EVERYBODY DOES IT.

1997
01:01:04,828 --> 01:01:06,037
>> Vanessa: JACKIE AND JOSH

1998
01:01:06,079 --> 01:01:08,373
ARE NOT WITH US TODAY BUT I WAS

1999
01:01:08,415 --> 01:01:11,293
ABLE TO CHAT WITH HIM YESTERDAY

2000
01:01:11,335 --> 01:01:12,043
OVER ZOOM.

2001
01:01:12,085 --> 01:01:13,003
TAKE A LOOK.

2002
01:01:13,044 --> 01:01:14,045
JACKIE AND JOSH, THANK YOU GUYS

2003
01:01:14,087 --> 01:01:15,130
SO MUCH FOR TAKING THE TIME TO

2004
01:01:15,172 --> 01:01:17,048
JOIN US FROM SEATTLE.

2005
01:01:17,090 --> 01:01:18,216
YOU LOOK GOOD.

2006
01:01:18,258 --> 01:01:19,635
HOW ARE THINGS?

2007
01:01:19,676 --> 01:01:20,760
>> DOING GREAT.

2008
01:01:20,802 --> 01:01:23,263
>> Y'ALL HAVE BEEN DATING SINCE

2009
01:01:23,305 --> 01:01:24,181
THE SHOW ENDED?

2010
01:01:24,222 --> 01:01:25,056
>> CORRECT.

2011
01:01:25,098 --> 01:01:26,558
>> Vanessa: A YEAR UNDER YOUR

2012
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:27,434
BELT.

2013
01:01:27,476 --> 01:01:28,310
THE JOURNEY YOU TOOK LAST YEAR

2014
01:01:28,352 --> 01:01:29,645
HAS NOW BEEN ON NETFLIX FOR

2015
01:01:29,686 --> 01:01:31,522
EVERYONE TO SEE.

2016
01:01:31,563 --> 01:01:33,607
ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY TO ALL

2017
01:01:33,649 --> 01:01:35,108
THOSE VIEWERS ABOUT THE SHOW IN

2018
01:01:35,150 --> 01:01:37,152
YOUR VOICE?

2019
01:01:37,194 --> 01:01:42,616
>> SO, I HAVE --

2020
01:01:42,658 --> 01:01:46,828
THE PERSON THAT I HAVE SEEN WAS

2021
01:01:46,870 --> 01:01:47,412
A TOTALLY DIFFERENT JACKIE, TO

2022
01:01:47,454 --> 01:01:50,290
BE HONEST.

2023
01:01:50,332 --> 01:01:52,209
I WOULD LIKE TO CLEAR UP SOME

2024
01:01:52,250 --> 01:01:54,336
THINGS IF THAT'S FINE WITH YOU.

2025
01:01:54,378 --> 01:01:54,919
>> Vanessa: ABSOLUTELY.

2026
01:01:54,961 --> 01:01:56,754
>> OKAY.

2027
01:01:56,796 --> 01:02:00,467
I BROKE UP WITH MARSHALL BEFORE

2028
01:02:00,509 --> 01:02:02,386
I SAW JOSH AT THE COFFEE SHOP.

2029
01:02:02,427 --> 01:02:03,887
IT LOOKS LIKE I'M A CHEATER AND

2030
01:02:03,928 --> 01:02:04,971
I'M NOT A CHEATER.

2031
01:02:05,013 --> 01:02:06,682
>> Vanessa: I UNDERSTAND WHAT

2032
01:02:06,723 --> 01:02:07,599
YOU'RE SAYING.

2033
01:02:07,641 --> 01:02:08,475
EVERYONE WANTS TO TURN LEFT AND

2034
01:02:08,517 --> 01:02:10,477
RIGHT BUT AT THAT POINT BY THE

2035
01:02:10,519 --> 01:02:11,769
WEDDING DRESS, YOU KNEW.

2036
01:02:11,811 --> 01:02:13,813
YOU KNEW YOU WERE WEREN'T GOING

2037
01:02:13,855 --> 01:02:15,148
TO GO THROUGH WITH TRYING OUT AN

2038
01:02:15,190 --> 01:02:16,441
ADDRESS TO A MAN YOU WEREN'T

2039
01:02:16,483 --> 01:02:17,609
GOING TO WALK DOWN THE AISLE AND

2040
01:02:17,651 --> 01:02:21,655
EVEN CONTEMPLATE THE IDEA OF

2041
01:02:21,697 --> 01:02:22,239
MAYBE.

2042
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:23,073
>> CORRECT.

2043
01:02:23,114 --> 01:02:24,533
>> Vanessa: DO YOU REMEMBER

2044
01:02:24,575 --> 01:02:25,576
THE MOMENT THAT MARSHALL PUSHED

2045
01:02:25,617 --> 01:02:27,411
YOU AND IT WAS THE LAST STRAW

2046
01:02:27,452 --> 01:02:30,664
THERE WAS LIKE, THAT'S IT, I'M

2047
01:02:30,706 --> 01:02:31,248
DONE?

2048
01:02:31,289 --> 01:02:31,998
>> I DO.

2049
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:33,458
IT HAPPENED OFF-CAMERA.

2050
01:02:33,500 --> 01:02:37,212
WHEN WE WERE FILMING, FILLING

2051
01:02:37,254 --> 01:02:39,256
OUT THE MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE.

2052
01:02:39,297 --> 01:02:41,216
HE CALLED ME A DEROGATORY NAME.

2053
01:02:41,258 --> 01:02:43,051
WE THOUGHT ABOUT IT AND HE LEFT

2054
01:02:43,093 --> 01:02:43,927
FOR THREE DAYS.

2055
01:02:43,968 --> 01:02:45,429
I THINK WHAT IT WAS, IT WAS A

2056
01:02:45,470 --> 01:02:46,263
BAD JOKE.

2057
01:02:46,304 --> 01:02:48,223
IT WAS ONE OF THOSE WHERE WE

2058
01:02:48,265 --> 01:02:50,434
WERE JOKING BUT IT JUST CAME OFF

2059
01:02:50,475 --> 01:02:51,309
AS BAD.

2060
01:02:51,351 --> 01:02:52,018
>> Vanessa: MARSHALL IS GOING

2061
01:02:52,060 --> 01:02:53,895
TO BE SITTING NEXT TO ME

2062
01:02:53,937 --> 01:02:54,812
TOMORROW DURING THE LIVE

2063
01:02:54,854 --> 01:02:55,689
REUNION.

2064
01:02:55,731 --> 01:02:57,982
IF YOU COULD SAY SOMETHING TO

2065
01:02:58,024 --> 01:03:00,818
HIM, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO HIM?

2066
01:03:00,860 --> 01:03:03,821
>> YEAH, I WOULD JUST SAY THAT I

2067
01:03:03,863 --> 01:03:05,699
TAKE ACCOUNTABILITY FOR MY WORDS

2068
01:03:05,741 --> 01:03:06,658
AND ACTIONS AND I HOPE THAT HE

2069
01:03:06,700 --> 01:03:09,160
WOULD DO THE SAME.

2070
01:03:09,202 --> 01:03:11,162
I CAN TAKE ACCOUNTABILITY FOR

2071
01:03:11,204 --> 01:03:14,666
THE FACT THAT I WENT FROM 0 TO

2072
01:03:14,708 --> 01:03:16,167
100 REALLY QUICK AND I CAN SIT

2073
01:03:16,209 --> 01:03:20,130
HERE AND SAYING THAT I SHOULD

2074
01:03:20,171 --> 01:03:21,005
HAVE HEARD HIM.

2075
01:03:21,047 --> 01:03:23,675
I SHOULD'VE LET HIM SPEAK

2076
01:03:23,717 --> 01:03:25,135
WITHOUT BEING ON THE DEEP END.

2077
01:03:25,176 --> 01:03:27,178
WE WERE NOT MEANT TO BE AND WE

2078
01:03:27,220 --> 01:03:28,346
DESERVE TO BE HAPPY.

2079
01:03:28,388 --> 01:03:29,640
>> Vanessa: YOU KNOW WHY

2080
01:03:29,681 --> 01:03:30,515
YOU'RE NOT MEANT TO BE A

2081
01:03:30,557 --> 01:03:31,975
QUESTION MARK YOU HAVE THE GUY

2082
01:03:32,016 --> 01:03:32,601
NEXT TO YOU.

2083
01:03:32,643 --> 01:03:33,851
YOU KEPT THE RING.

2084
01:03:33,893 --> 01:03:37,105
>> YES, MA'AM, I HAVE THE RING.

2085
01:03:37,147 --> 01:03:38,189
>> Vanessa: WHY DO YOU THINK

2086
01:03:38,231 --> 01:03:40,400
HE WANTED A FACT?

2087
01:03:40,442 --> 01:03:42,110
YOU CAN BE COMPLETELY CANDID?

2088
01:03:42,152 --> 01:03:44,362
>> MARSHALL WANTED THE RING BACK

2089
01:03:44,404 --> 01:03:45,363
BECAUSE HE WANTED TO PROPOSE TO

2090
01:03:45,405 --> 01:03:47,991
ANOTHER CASTMATE.

2091
01:03:48,032 --> 01:03:51,202
>> AND BROKE UP TWO WEEKS AFTER

2092
01:03:51,244 --> 01:03:52,078
PRODUCTION STOPPED.

2093
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,665
>> Vanessa: GUESTS WHO DIDN'T,

2094
01:03:54,706 --> 01:03:55,582
JACKIE AND JOSH.

2095
01:03:55,624 --> 01:03:57,125
JOSH, ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY

2096
01:03:57,167 --> 01:03:59,877
ABOUT YOUR ROLE IN THIS LOVE

2097
01:03:59,919 --> 01:04:00,629
TRIANGLE?

2098
01:04:00,671 --> 01:04:03,674
>> I'M NOT THE TIME TO --

2099
01:04:03,715 --> 01:04:05,216
TYPE TO TEXT SOMEBODY OR HIT

2100
01:04:05,258 --> 01:04:06,217
THEM UP ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

2101
01:04:06,259 --> 01:04:09,053
I WILL SAY TO YOUR FACE.

2102
01:04:09,095 --> 01:04:10,930
AT CHELSEA'S BIRTHDAY PARTY, I

2103
01:04:10,972 --> 01:04:14,434
WAS LIKE HECK YEAH.

2104
01:04:14,476 --> 01:04:16,060
I WAS CUTTING A LOT OF WEIGHT, I

2105
01:04:16,102 --> 01:04:17,395
HAD 18 POUNDS TO CUT FOR THIS

2106
01:04:17,437 --> 01:04:18,689
COMPETITION.

2107
01:04:18,730 --> 01:04:23,443
I HAD CUT 12 AT THE TIME.

2108
01:04:23,485 --> 01:04:24,861
I WAS THINKING, LOVE IS BLIND

2109
01:04:24,902 --> 01:04:26,237
BUT LOVE IS WORTH FIGHTING FOR.

2110
01:04:26,279 --> 01:04:27,698
>> Vanessa: WHEN YOU TALK

2111
01:04:27,739 --> 01:04:28,615
ABOUT CUTTING THE WEIGHT, THEN

2112
01:04:28,657 --> 01:04:31,493
YOU WERE DRINKING AT A PROPERLY

2113
01:04:31,535 --> 01:04:32,410
MADE YOU LITTLE...

2114
01:04:32,452 --> 01:04:33,286
>> YES.

2115
01:04:33,328 --> 01:04:34,705
>> Vanessa: JOSH, YOU KNOW YOU

2116
01:04:34,746 --> 01:04:40,126
DON'T DRINK ON AN EMPTY STOMACH.

2117
01:04:40,168 --> 01:04:40,794
[LAUGHS]

2118
01:04:40,836 --> 01:04:42,462
IT'S MY ONE CHANCE.

2119
01:04:42,504 --> 01:04:45,799
WHEN YOU SAW HIM, DID YOU KNOW,

2120
01:04:45,841 --> 01:04:46,675
THAT'S JOSH?

2121
01:04:46,717 --> 01:04:48,968
>> HONESTLY, I DIDN'T SEE HIM.

2122
01:04:49,010 --> 01:04:51,346
I HEARD HIS VOICE AND I HAVE

2123
01:04:51,388 --> 01:04:52,180
PTSD.

2124
01:04:52,222 --> 01:04:55,183
JOSH'S VOICE IS SO DISTINCT.

2125
01:04:55,225 --> 01:04:56,267
SEEING HIM AND CONNECTING THE

2126
01:04:56,309 --> 01:04:58,269
VOICE WITH THE FACE, IT WAS KIND

2127
01:04:58,311 --> 01:04:59,937
OF LIKE WOW.

2128
01:04:59,979 --> 01:05:01,565
>> Vanessa: IT GAVE YOU ALL

2129
01:05:01,606 --> 01:05:02,649
THE FIELDS.

2130
01:05:02,691 --> 01:05:03,525
>> EXACTLY.

2131
01:05:03,567 --> 01:05:04,776
>> Vanessa: I WANT TO KNOW, AS

2132
01:05:04,818 --> 01:05:07,612
THE PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW, WHAT'S

2133
01:05:07,654 --> 01:05:10,615
NEXT FOR JACKIE AND JOSH?

2134
01:05:10,657 --> 01:05:11,491
ARE WE THINKING MARRIAGE?

2135
01:05:11,533 --> 01:05:18,915
ARE WE THINKING LITTLE J.J.S?

2136
01:05:18,956 --> 01:05:21,793
>> WE ARE TAKING OUR TIME WITH

2137
01:05:21,835 --> 01:05:22,669
EVERYTHING.

2138
01:05:22,711 --> 01:05:23,754
LIFE COMES AT YOU FAST AND WE

2139
01:05:23,795 --> 01:05:27,131
DON'T WANT TO RUSH ANYTHING.

2140
01:05:27,173 --> 01:05:30,176
SOMETIMES YOU CAN'T RUSH LOVE.

2141
01:05:30,218 --> 01:05:31,010
WE LIVE TOGETHER NOW.

2142
01:05:31,052 --> 01:05:33,513
WE'VE GOT A DOG.

2143
01:05:33,555 --> 01:05:34,556
WE'VE GOT A FISH.

2144
01:05:34,598 --> 01:05:36,433
>> Vanessa: YOU HAVE A DOG?

2145
01:05:36,474 --> 01:05:39,227
>> YEAH, I AM GIRL DAD.

2146
01:05:39,269 --> 01:05:41,979
>> AND I'VE GOT A FISH NAMED

2147
01:05:42,021 --> 01:05:42,689
RICK.

2148
01:05:42,731 --> 01:05:43,857
>> Vanessa: I LOVE IT.

2149
01:05:43,899 --> 01:05:44,733
I LOVE IT.

2150
01:05:44,775 --> 01:05:46,025
JACKIE AND JOSH, THANK YOU SO

2151
01:05:46,067 --> 01:05:47,611
MUCH FOR DOING THIS AND SHARING

2152
01:05:47,652 --> 01:05:48,737
SO MUCH WITH US.

2153
01:05:48,779 --> 01:05:50,196
WE ARE SO HAPPY THAT THROUGH ALL

2154
01:05:50,238 --> 01:05:52,156
OF THE DRAMA, YOU GUYS FOUND

2155
01:05:52,198 --> 01:05:53,742
EACH OTHER.

2156
01:05:53,784 --> 01:05:54,451
THANK YOU.

2157
01:05:54,492 --> 01:05:55,702
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

2158
01:05:55,744 --> 01:05:59,790
TAKE IT EASY.

2159
01:05:59,831 --> 01:06:00,624
GOODBYE.

2160
01:06:00,665 --> 01:06:01,625
>> Vanessa: I'M GOING TO LET

2161
01:06:01,666 --> 01:06:03,376
THAT MARINATE FOR A MINUTE.

2162
01:06:03,418 --> 01:06:04,294
THERE WAS A LOT GOING ON HERE IN

2163
01:06:04,335 --> 01:06:07,297
THE AUDIENCE.

2164
01:06:07,338 --> 01:06:09,090
>> Nick: A LOT GOING ON ON THE

2165
01:06:09,132 --> 01:06:09,925
STAGE.

2166
01:06:09,966 --> 01:06:10,759
>> Vanessa: THE ONLY PERSON

2167
01:06:10,801 --> 01:06:11,593
THAT WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S

2168
01:06:11,635 --> 01:06:14,554
GOING ON IN HIS HEAD IS

2169
01:06:14,596 --> 01:06:15,221
MARSHALL.

2170
01:06:15,263 --> 01:06:16,556
>> WHAT'S UP?

2171
01:06:16,598 --> 01:06:18,349
>> Vanessa: HAY.

2172
01:06:18,391 --> 01:06:19,935
OH, I GOT SOME EYEBROW ACTION.

2173
01:06:19,976 --> 01:06:22,270
>> A LOT OF EYEBROW ACTION.

2174
01:06:22,312 --> 01:06:23,229
WHAT'S UP, WHAT'S HAPPENING?

2175
01:06:23,271 --> 01:06:24,522
>> Vanessa: WHAT DO YOU WANT

2176
01:06:24,564 --> 01:06:26,566
TO SAY AFTER WATCHING THAT

2177
01:06:26,608 --> 01:06:27,484
VIDEO?

2178
01:06:27,525 --> 01:06:28,819
>> FIRST OF ALL, A LOT HAPPENED

2179
01:06:28,860 --> 01:06:29,903
IN THAT VIDEO.

2180
01:06:29,945 --> 01:06:32,781
LET'S SAY THAT.

2181
01:06:32,823 --> 01:06:33,949
I THINK THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE

2182
01:06:33,990 --> 01:06:37,368
WANT ME TO BE REACTIONARY.

2183
01:06:37,410 --> 01:06:39,120
I THINK THAT IT'S JUST BEST TO

2184
01:06:39,162 --> 01:06:40,747
JUST LET THEM HAVE THEIR MOMENT.

2185
01:06:40,789 --> 01:06:42,123
THERE'S A LOT TO SEE AND THERE'S

2186
01:06:42,165 --> 01:06:43,082
A LOT TO THINK BACK ON.

2187
01:06:43,124 --> 01:06:47,545
IT'S HARD TO WATCH A VIDEO,

2188
01:06:47,587 --> 01:06:49,005
HOWEVER LONG IT WAS, TWO OR

2189
01:06:49,046 --> 01:06:50,590
3 MINUTES, AND TALK TO EACH

2190
01:06:50,632 --> 01:06:52,676
POINT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO

2191
01:06:52,717 --> 01:06:53,593
BECAUSE I CAN'T QUITE RECOLLECT

2192
01:06:53,635 --> 01:06:57,013
WHAT HAPPENED IN THE VIDEO.

2193
01:06:57,054 --> 01:06:58,890
IT'S DIFFERENT WHEN I'M HERE

2194
01:06:58,932 --> 01:06:59,766
TALKING TO SOMEBODY.

2195
01:06:59,808 --> 01:07:00,642
>> Vanessa: SINCE THEY AREN'T

2196
01:07:00,684 --> 01:07:03,144
HERE, SHE SAID SHE NEVER CHEATED

2197
01:07:03,186 --> 01:07:04,020
ON YOU.

2198
01:07:04,061 --> 01:07:05,271
SHE BROKE UP WITH YOU BEFORE SHE

2199
01:07:05,313 --> 01:07:06,523
HAD THE DATE WITH JOSH.

2200
01:07:06,564 --> 01:07:08,608
THAT WAS THE FIRST POINT SHE

2201
01:07:08,650 --> 01:07:09,233
MADE.

2202
01:07:09,275 --> 01:07:09,985
>> OKAY.

2203
01:07:10,026 --> 01:07:10,819
>> Vanessa: THAT'S ALL YOU

2204
01:07:10,861 --> 01:07:12,529
HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT?

2205
01:07:12,570 --> 01:07:14,071
>> IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT WAS

2206
01:07:14,113 --> 01:07:15,991
BEFORE OR THE DAY AFTER.

2207
01:07:16,032 --> 01:07:17,241
YOU ARE KISSING A NEW DUDE

2208
01:07:17,283 --> 01:07:18,201
IMMEDIATELY AFTER YOU JUST BROKE

2209
01:07:18,242 --> 01:07:19,911
UP WITH SOMEBODY AND I WAS

2210
01:07:19,953 --> 01:07:21,788
SUPPOSED TO BE, WHAT?

2211
01:07:21,830 --> 01:07:22,706
>> Vanessa: ARE YOU COMPLETELY

2212
01:07:22,747 --> 01:07:23,832
BLINDSIDED THAT SHE DIDN'T WANT

2213
01:07:23,874 --> 01:07:25,208
THIS TO WORK OUT OR DID YOU KNOW

2214
01:07:25,249 --> 01:07:28,127
THE BACK OF YOUR MIND, THIS

2215
01:07:28,169 --> 01:07:30,171
ISN'T WORKING OUT?

2216
01:07:30,213 --> 01:07:32,131
>> THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT

2217
01:07:32,173 --> 01:07:34,217
I FEEL LIKE HAPPENED BETWEEN

2218
01:07:34,258 --> 01:07:38,805
JACKIE AND MYSELF THAT IT WOULD

2219
01:07:38,847 --> 01:07:40,598
HAVE INEVITABLY GOTTEN TO THAT

2220
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:41,516
POINT.

2221
01:07:41,558 --> 01:07:43,643
BUT I THINK WHAT WE ALL HAVE TO

2222
01:07:43,685 --> 01:07:45,896
REALIZE IS THAT'S JUST THE

2223
01:07:45,937 --> 01:07:47,355
NORMAL EBB AND FLOW OF A

2224
01:07:47,397 --> 01:07:48,272
RELATIONSHIP.

2225
01:07:48,314 --> 01:07:49,148
THERE'S GOING TO BE TOUGH TIMES

2226
01:07:49,190 --> 01:07:50,358
AND THERE'S GOING TO BE GREAT

2227
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:51,192
TIMES.

2228
01:07:51,234 --> 01:07:51,985
>> Vanessa: YOU WOULD HAVE

2229
01:07:52,027 --> 01:07:54,111
MADE AND ALL THE WAY TO THE

2230
01:07:54,153 --> 01:07:54,696
ALTAR?

2231
01:07:54,738 --> 01:07:55,613
>> ABSOLUTELY.

2232
01:07:55,655 --> 01:07:57,657
I SET IT TO HER IN MEXICO.

2233
01:07:57,699 --> 01:08:01,703
I HAVE RUN AWAY FROM STUFF

2234
01:08:01,745 --> 01:08:03,079
BEFORE AND I WAS NOT GOING TO DO

2235
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:03,788
IT.

2236
01:08:03,830 --> 01:08:04,622
>> Nick: YOU DON'T THINK

2237
01:08:04,664 --> 01:08:05,248
YOU'RE SPLITTING WAS FOR THE

2238
01:08:05,289 --> 01:08:06,541
BEST?

2239
01:08:06,583 --> 01:08:07,375
YOU THINK YOU COULD HAVE FIGURED

2240
01:08:07,417 --> 01:08:09,210
IT OUT AND HAD A SUCCESSFUL

2241
01:08:09,252 --> 01:08:10,086
MARRIAGE?

2242
01:08:10,127 --> 01:08:11,170
>> THAT'S A TWOFOLD QUESTION.

2243
01:08:11,212 --> 01:08:12,630
MAKING IT TO THE ALTAR.

2244
01:08:12,672 --> 01:08:15,633
MAKING IT TO THE ALTAR IS THE

2245
01:08:15,675 --> 01:08:16,551
PRECIPICE OF THIS ENTIRE

2246
01:08:16,593 --> 01:08:17,844
EXPERIMENT, THAT WAS TAKEN FROM

2247
01:08:17,886 --> 01:08:18,720
ME.

2248
01:08:18,762 --> 01:08:20,055
BEING ABLE TO HAVE A DECISION IN

2249
01:08:20,096 --> 01:08:21,472
THAT MOMENT, I FEEL LIKE I

2250
01:08:21,514 --> 01:08:24,267
WASN'T ABLE TO HAVE THAT.

2251
01:08:24,308 --> 01:08:26,102
I DON'T KNOW WHAT I WOULD HAVE

2252
01:08:26,143 --> 01:08:27,020
SAID.

2253
01:08:27,062 --> 01:08:31,024
BUT NOW IT'S JUST, I MEAN, BACK

2254
01:08:31,066 --> 01:08:32,984
THEN, THERE WAS NO QUESTION TO

2255
01:08:33,026 --> 01:08:33,902
ANSWER.

2256
01:08:33,944 --> 01:08:36,738
THERE WAS NO, WILL YOU SAY I DO?

2257
01:08:36,780 --> 01:08:37,614
>> Nick: YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT

2258
01:08:37,655 --> 01:08:38,448
YOU WOULD HAVE SAID BUT YOU KNOW

2259
01:08:38,489 --> 01:08:42,786
YOU WOULD'VE MADE IT TO THAT

2260
01:08:42,827 --> 01:08:43,703
POINT?

2261
01:08:43,745 --> 01:08:45,789
>> YEAH, AND I GAVE IT A LOT OF

2262
01:08:45,830 --> 01:08:46,664
THOUGHT.

2263
01:08:46,706 --> 01:08:47,540
>> Vanessa: ANOTHER THING SHE

2264
01:08:47,582 --> 01:08:49,626
SAID IN THE VIDEO, THERE WAS A

2265
01:08:49,667 --> 01:08:51,502
DEROGATORY, THAT WAS MADE.

2266
01:08:51,544 --> 01:08:52,837
DO YOU KNOW WHAT SHE'S TALKING

2267
01:08:52,879 --> 01:08:53,838
ABOUT?

2268
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:55,339
>> I DO.

2269
01:08:55,381 --> 01:08:56,507
>> Vanessa: SHE ALLEGES.

2270
01:08:56,549 --> 01:08:57,634
WAS IT TRUE?

2271
01:08:57,675 --> 01:08:59,135
I LOOKED OVER AND YOU HAD ALL

2272
01:08:59,176 --> 01:09:01,596
KIND OF EYEBROW ACTION.

2273
01:09:01,638 --> 01:09:04,515
>> THIS DIFFERENCE BETWEEN

2274
01:09:04,557 --> 01:09:07,518
JOKING WITH SOMEONE AND BEING

2275
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:08,478
ABLE TO MOVE ON FROM IT IF

2276
01:09:08,519 --> 01:09:12,398
THERE'S A PRESSURE POINT.

2277
01:09:12,440 --> 01:09:13,691
BEING ABLE TO --

2278
01:09:13,733 --> 01:09:15,276
JOKING WITH SOMEONE AND TAKING

2279
01:09:15,318 --> 01:09:18,446
THAT OUT OF CONTEXT.

2280
01:09:18,488 --> 01:09:20,197
SPINNING IT AND TELLING EVERYONE

2281
01:09:20,239 --> 01:09:23,534
THAT I SAID THAT IT WAS A TERM

2282
01:09:23,576 --> 01:09:25,703
WHERE AS THOUGH I FEEL LIKE WE

2283
01:09:25,745 --> 01:09:27,998
BOTH WERE MAKING JABS AND SOME

2284
01:09:28,039 --> 01:09:30,041
OF THOSE JABS SHE WASN'T JOKING.

2285
01:09:30,083 --> 01:09:31,501
HER TEXT MESSAGES THAT WERE

2286
01:09:31,542 --> 01:09:33,336
LEAKED, SHE THOUGHT THAT WAS

2287
01:09:33,377 --> 01:09:34,337
TRUE.

2288
01:09:34,378 --> 01:09:35,338
IN HER HEART, SHE FELT LIKE

2289
01:09:35,379 --> 01:09:36,840
WHATEVER SHE SAID TO ME IN THAT

2290
01:09:36,881 --> 01:09:38,133
MOMENT WAS TRUE.

2291
01:09:38,174 --> 01:09:40,510
>> Vanessa: FOR PEOPLE THAT

2292
01:09:40,551 --> 01:09:42,219
DON'T UNDERSTAND, THERE WERE

2293
01:09:42,261 --> 01:09:43,763
SOME TEXTS TO HER FRIEND LEAKED

2294
01:09:43,805 --> 01:09:45,015
AND SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT YOU IN

2295
01:09:45,056 --> 01:09:50,269
A WAY THAT WAS NOT KIND.

2296
01:09:50,311 --> 01:09:52,563
NOT NOT KIND, MORE LIKE OH,

2297
01:09:52,605 --> 01:09:53,481
YEAH, GO CHECK IT OUT FOR

2298
01:09:53,523 --> 01:09:54,357
YOURSELF.

2299
01:09:54,398 --> 01:09:55,608
I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS WRONG.

2300
01:09:55,650 --> 01:09:57,193
BUT WE WANT TO KNOW YOUR PART IN

2301
01:09:57,234 --> 01:09:58,028
THIS.

2302
01:09:58,069 --> 01:10:00,071
YOU SAID IT WAS FROM BOTH OF

2303
01:10:00,113 --> 01:10:00,655
YOU.

2304
01:10:00,697 --> 01:10:01,531
>> YEAH.

2305
01:10:01,572 --> 01:10:02,866
>> Vanessa: WHAT'S THE CONTEXT

2306
01:10:02,907 --> 01:10:04,575
OF WHAT YOU SAID THAT WAS

2307
01:10:04,617 --> 01:10:06,243
DEROGATORY THAT SHE COMPLETELY

2308
01:10:06,285 --> 01:10:06,953
MISUNDERSTOOD?

2309
01:10:06,995 --> 01:10:09,246
>> YEAH, AND SO JACKIE'S

2310
01:10:09,288 --> 01:10:12,959
COMMENTS WERE MADE TO ME WERE,

2311
01:10:13,001 --> 01:10:17,421
SHE WAS CALLING ME SWEET.

2312
01:10:17,463 --> 01:10:21,134
>> Vanessa: WE SAW THOSE.

2313
01:10:21,176 --> 01:10:24,554
>> I FELT LIKE IT WAS MY TURN TO

2314
01:10:24,595 --> 01:10:26,305
MAKE A JAB.

2315
01:10:26,347 --> 01:10:29,184
I SAID, YOU'VE GOT A STRONG JAW

2316
01:10:29,225 --> 01:10:30,060
LINE.

2317
01:10:30,101 --> 01:10:31,811
YOU COULD HAVE BEEN A MAN, FOR

2318
01:10:31,853 --> 01:10:32,562
ALL I KNOW.

2319
01:10:32,603 --> 01:10:34,814
IT WAS WRONG, I KNOW.

2320
01:10:34,856 --> 01:10:35,773
IT WAS WRONG.

2321
01:10:35,815 --> 01:10:38,651
>> Vanessa: DID YOU SAY THIS

2322
01:10:38,693 --> 01:10:40,195
WHILE Y'ALL WERE SIGNING YOUR

2323
01:10:40,236 --> 01:10:41,029
MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE?

2324
01:10:41,071 --> 01:10:43,239
>> NO, NO, NO, THIS WAS THE

2325
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:45,158
NIGHT BEFORE WE MET MY FAMILY.

2326
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:46,617
I HOLD MYSELF ACCOUNTABLE IN

2327
01:10:46,659 --> 01:10:49,412
THAT MOMENT I KNEW IT WAS WRONG

2328
01:10:49,453 --> 01:10:51,122
BECAUSE SHE TOOK IT VERY CLEAR

2329
01:10:51,164 --> 01:10:52,790
OFFENSE TO IT.

2330
01:10:52,832 --> 01:10:54,625
I KNEW, I ALWAYS HOLD MYSELF

2331
01:10:54,667 --> 01:10:56,044
ACCOUNTABLE FOR STUFF IN THE

2332
01:10:56,086 --> 01:10:57,461
MOMENT AND EVEN IN THE MORNING

2333
01:10:57,503 --> 01:10:58,796
AFTER I HELD MYSELF ACCOUNTABLE

2334
01:10:58,838 --> 01:11:00,673
AND I SAID THIS WILL NEVER

2335
01:11:00,715 --> 01:11:01,716
HAPPEN AGAIN.

2336
01:11:01,758 --> 01:11:02,592
WE ARE LEARNING EACH OTHER.

2337
01:11:02,633 --> 01:11:07,680
WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT EACH

2338
01:11:07,722 --> 01:11:08,681
OTHER'S TRIGGERS ARE.

2339
01:11:08,723 --> 01:11:09,515
I THOUGHT IT WAS A SAFE SPACE

2340
01:11:09,557 --> 01:11:10,349
BECAUSE SHE IS COMING TO ME,

2341
01:11:10,391 --> 01:11:13,352
CALLING ME OUT OF MY OWN

2342
01:11:13,394 --> 01:11:14,229
SEXUAL PREFERENCE.

2343
01:11:14,270 --> 01:11:15,688
>> Vanessa: SHE WAS SAYING IT

2344
01:11:15,730 --> 01:11:16,439
TO YOU.

2345
01:11:16,480 --> 01:11:17,273
>> Nick: BOTH OF YOU WERE

2346
01:11:17,314 --> 01:11:18,775
JOKING BUT IT WENT TOO FAR?

2347
01:11:18,816 --> 01:11:21,527
>> IT WENT TOO FAR AND I TAKE

2348
01:11:21,569 --> 01:11:22,987
FULL ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THAT.

2349
01:11:23,029 --> 01:11:23,947
>> Vanessa: I DON'T KNOW HOW

2350
01:11:23,988 --> 01:11:26,950
I'D FEEL IF YOU TALKED LIKE THAT

2351
01:11:26,991 --> 01:11:27,784
ABOUT ME.

2352
01:11:27,825 --> 01:11:28,993
>> IT WAS DEFINITELY WRONG I

2353
01:11:29,035 --> 01:11:30,870
TAKE A CUT ABILITY FOR THAT.

2354
01:11:30,912 --> 01:11:33,456
HOWEVER, I DID NOT SAY A

2355
01:11:33,497 --> 01:11:34,290
SPECIFIC TERM.

2356
01:11:34,331 --> 01:11:36,000
>> Vanessa: YOU DIDN'T USE A

2357
01:11:36,042 --> 01:11:36,834
DEROGATORY TERM?

2358
01:11:36,876 --> 01:11:39,087
>> I DIDN'T USE A DEROGATORY

2359
01:11:39,129 --> 01:11:39,921
TERM.

2360
01:11:39,963 --> 01:11:41,422
>> Vanessa: WHICH WE WILL BE

2361
01:11:41,464 --> 01:11:42,048
SAYING TODAY HERE.

2362
01:11:42,090 --> 01:11:44,801
>> NOT SEE THAT --

2363
01:11:44,842 --> 01:11:46,010
SAY THAT WORD.

2364
01:11:46,052 --> 01:11:47,929
THAT WORD IS NEEDED IN MY

2365
01:11:47,971 --> 01:11:48,805
VOCABULARY.

2366
01:11:48,846 --> 01:11:49,722
>> Vanessa: ANOTHER THING, I'M

2367
01:11:49,764 --> 01:11:51,474
DOING THIS BECAUSE YOU COULDN'T

2368
01:11:51,515 --> 01:11:52,558
REMEMBER THE VIDEO.

2369
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:54,269
THE OTHER THING SHE MENTIONED,

2370
01:11:54,310 --> 01:11:55,186
THE RING.

2371
01:11:55,228 --> 01:11:56,813
THE RING HEARD ROUND THE WORLD.

2372
01:11:56,854 --> 01:12:01,067
THE DAMN RING.

2373
01:12:01,109 --> 01:12:02,819
WHEN I ASKED HER, THAT'S NOT THE

2374
01:12:02,860 --> 01:12:03,611
RESPONSE I THOUGHT I WAS GOING

2375
01:12:03,653 --> 01:12:04,612
TO GET.

2376
01:12:04,654 --> 01:12:06,405
SHE WAS VERY HELL-BENT ON SAYING

2377
01:12:06,447 --> 01:12:07,991
YOU WANTED TO PROPOSE TO

2378
01:12:08,032 --> 01:12:08,950
SOMEBODY AND STAY ON THE SHOW

2379
01:12:08,992 --> 01:12:10,743
AND WHEN I LOOKED AT YOU AGAIN,

2380
01:12:10,785 --> 01:12:12,411
YOU ARE LIKE, THAT IS NOT TRUE.

2381
01:12:12,453 --> 01:12:13,830
WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ON THAT?

2382
01:12:13,871 --> 01:12:14,998
>> THE REASON WHY I ASKED FOR

2383
01:12:15,039 --> 01:12:20,503
THE RING BACK WAS BECAUSE IT WAS

2384
01:12:20,544 --> 01:12:23,589
A SIMPLE OF MY LOVE --

2385
01:12:23,631 --> 01:12:25,424
A SYMBOL OF MY LOVE.

2386
01:12:25,466 --> 01:12:27,010
WE PICKED OUT THOSE RINGS MY

2387
01:12:27,051 --> 01:12:29,470
LOOKED AT THE RING AND I SAID,

2388
01:12:29,512 --> 01:12:31,055
THAT'S FOR HER.

2389
01:12:31,097 --> 01:12:32,890
I FEEL LIKE SHE DIDN'T DESERVE

2390
01:12:32,932 --> 01:12:37,228
TO HAVE THAT SYMBOL OF MY LOVE.

2391
01:12:37,270 --> 01:12:39,856
[APPLAUSE]

2392
01:12:39,897 --> 01:12:42,775
AND ULTIMATELY I DID NOT WANT TO

2393
01:12:42,817 --> 01:12:44,944
PROPOSE TO ANYBODY ELSE.

2394
01:12:44,986 --> 01:12:48,281
THAT WASN'T THE CASE.

2395
01:12:48,323 --> 01:12:49,573
THAT'S REALLY WILD THAT SHE

2396
01:12:49,615 --> 01:12:50,741
WOULD THINK THAT, BECAUSE SHE

2397
01:12:50,783 --> 01:12:51,659
WAS LITERALLY THE ONLY PERSON

2398
01:12:51,701 --> 01:12:54,453
THAT I WAS WORRIED ABOUT IN THE

2399
01:12:54,495 --> 01:12:55,621
PODS.

2400
01:12:55,663 --> 01:12:56,497
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING?

2401
01:12:56,539 --> 01:12:57,332
THAT IS THE WEIRDEST THING TO

2402
01:12:57,373 --> 01:12:59,416
ME, THAT SHE WOULD THINK I'M

2403
01:12:59,458 --> 01:13:00,835
TRYING TO PROPOSE TO SOMEBODY

2404
01:13:00,877 --> 01:13:01,919
ELSE, I'M GOING TO KEEP THE

2405
01:13:01,961 --> 01:13:02,753
RING.

2406
01:13:02,795 --> 01:13:03,629
>> Vanessa: BUT YOU DID DATE

2407
01:13:03,671 --> 01:13:04,881
SOMEONE ELSE AND YOU SPOKE ABOUT

2408
01:13:04,922 --> 01:13:05,756
THIS.

2409
01:13:05,798 --> 01:13:07,884
WHEN DID YOU START DATING HER?

2410
01:13:07,925 --> 01:13:08,885
AND WHICH CAST MEMBER?

2411
01:13:08,926 --> 01:13:13,723
>> LET'S CALL A SPADE A SPADE.

2412
01:13:13,764 --> 01:13:16,184
HOW MANY DATES DO YOU CLASSIFY

2413
01:13:16,226 --> 01:13:17,101
DATING?

2414
01:13:17,143 --> 01:13:20,104
BECAUSE WE WENT ON ONE SINGULAR

2415
01:13:20,146 --> 01:13:20,980
DATE.

2416
01:13:21,022 --> 01:13:21,856
ALTHOUGH WE WERE TALKING BACK

2417
01:13:21,898 --> 01:13:23,399
AND FORTH, TEXTING.

2418
01:13:23,440 --> 01:13:30,865
BACK IT UP.

2419
01:13:30,907 --> 01:13:35,661
KEISHA SENT ME A BEAUTIFUL VOICE

2420
01:13:35,703 --> 01:13:40,291
MESSAGE THE DAY THAT ME AND

2421
01:13:40,333 --> 01:13:41,167
JACKIE BROKE UP.

2422
01:13:41,209 --> 01:13:42,335
>> Vanessa: HOW DID SHE KNOW?

2423
01:13:42,377 --> 01:13:44,295
>> SOCIAL MEDIA.

2424
01:13:44,337 --> 01:13:45,546
>> Vanessa: BECAUSE JACKIE

2425
01:13:45,588 --> 01:13:46,422
POSTED SOMETHING.

2426
01:13:46,463 --> 01:13:48,883
I AM PUTTING IT TOGETHER NOW.

2427
01:13:48,925 --> 01:13:52,178
>> IT WAS PRETTY MUCH KNOWN

2428
01:13:52,220 --> 01:13:53,054
THROUGHOUT THE CAST THAT WE HAVE

2429
01:13:53,096 --> 01:13:56,599
BROKEN UP.

2430
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:58,517
>> Vanessa: SO SHE CAME IN?

2431
01:13:58,559 --> 01:14:00,519
>> NO NOT NECESSARILY BUT WE HAD

2432
01:14:00,561 --> 01:14:02,646
A CONNECTION IN THE PONDS AND IF

2433
01:14:02,688 --> 01:14:05,524
YOU LIKE THAT WAS WHO SHE IS.

2434
01:14:05,566 --> 01:14:07,110
VERY CARING AND LOVING PERSON

2435
01:14:07,151 --> 01:14:09,237
AND SHE DID THAT OUT OF THE

2436
01:14:09,279 --> 01:14:10,113
KINDNESS OF HER HEART.

2437
01:14:10,154 --> 01:14:12,573
I WAS LIKE YOU KNOW WHAT, HOW

2438
01:14:12,615 --> 01:14:15,826
ARE YOU DOING?

2439
01:14:15,868 --> 01:14:16,411
LET'S TALK.

2440
01:14:16,452 --> 01:14:19,038
WE EXPLORED IT.

2441
01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:20,415
I COULDN'T MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE

2442
01:14:20,456 --> 01:14:22,083
I WANTED TO DISTANCE MYSELF FROM

2443
01:14:22,125 --> 01:14:24,210
THAT HORRIBLE EXPERIENCE THAT I

2444
01:14:24,252 --> 01:14:25,086
HAD.

2445
01:14:25,128 --> 01:14:27,297
I NEEDED TIME TO WORK ON MYSELF.

2446
01:14:27,338 --> 01:14:28,589
>> Nick: MARSHALL, SHE SAID

2447
01:14:28,631 --> 01:14:30,466
QUITE A BIT IN THAT VIDEO BUT

2448
01:14:30,507 --> 01:14:32,009
SHE ALSO SAID QUITE A BIT ON

2449
01:14:32,051 --> 01:14:33,719
SOCIAL MEDIA AND OTHER WAYS.

2450
01:14:33,761 --> 01:14:35,305
IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT

2451
01:14:35,346 --> 01:14:36,722
TO SAY TO JACKIE?

2452
01:14:36,764 --> 01:14:38,557
ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT

2453
01:14:38,599 --> 01:14:39,434
CAMERA?

2454
01:14:39,475 --> 01:14:41,644
ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO GET

2455
01:14:41,685 --> 01:14:45,815
OFF YOUR CHEST, CORRECT, SAY TO

2456
01:14:45,856 --> 01:14:47,817
JACKIE?

2457
01:14:47,858 --> 01:14:49,860
>> THERE'S A LOT I WOULD LIKE TO

2458
01:14:49,902 --> 01:14:51,028
SAY.

2459
01:14:51,070 --> 01:14:53,030
HOWEVER, I FEEL LIKE WE BOTH

2460
01:14:53,072 --> 01:14:58,202
DESERVE TO MOVE ON FROM THIS.

2461
01:14:58,244 --> 01:14:59,203
THE WHOLE YOU VERSUS ME THINK

2462
01:14:59,245 --> 01:15:01,289
NEEDS TO DIE.

2463
01:15:01,331 --> 01:15:07,920
IMMEDIATELY.

2464
01:15:07,962 --> 01:15:10,756
NOT JUST BECAUSE THERE SEEMS TO

2465
01:15:10,798 --> 01:15:14,051
BE A NEED TO CLEAR YOURSELF OR

2466
01:15:14,093 --> 01:15:21,142
DEFEND YOURSELF.

2467
01:15:21,184 --> 01:15:23,686
YOU'RE STILL TRYING TO MAKE

2468
01:15:23,727 --> 01:15:28,858
SOMETHING SHAKE BETWEEN US.

2469
01:15:28,899 --> 01:15:29,733
YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE SOMETHING

2470
01:15:29,775 --> 01:15:30,651
OUT OF NOTHING AND IT NEEDS TO

2471
01:15:30,693 --> 01:15:31,361
STOP BECAUSE IT'S CAUSING MORE

2472
01:15:31,402 --> 01:15:33,988
DAMAGE THAN GOOD.

2473
01:15:34,030 --> 01:15:35,281
I DON'T HAVE FEELINGS.

2474
01:15:35,323 --> 01:15:36,740
I HAVE NOT HAD FEELINGS FOR A

2475
01:15:36,782 --> 01:15:38,284
YEAR.

2476
01:15:38,326 --> 01:15:45,333
I DON'T WANT TO CALL IT A TRUCE.

2477
01:15:47,460 --> 01:15:51,630
>> Vanessa: TRUCE?

2478
01:15:51,672 --> 01:15:52,965
THANK YOU.

2479
01:15:53,007 --> 01:15:55,343
KIND OF HAVING A ONE-SIDED

2480
01:15:55,385 --> 01:15:56,219
CONVERSATION.

2481
01:15:56,260 --> 01:15:57,094
>> DIFFICULT BECAUSE THEY ARE

2482
01:15:57,136 --> 01:15:58,262
NOT HERE TO DEFEND THEMSELVES.

2483
01:15:58,304 --> 01:16:00,764
>> Vanessa: HOW DO YOU FEEL?

2484
01:16:00,806 --> 01:16:01,891
>> SLIGHTED.

2485
01:16:01,932 --> 01:16:04,101
FOR THE SECOND TIME IN THIS

2486
01:16:04,143 --> 01:16:04,977
EXPERIMENT, I'VE BEEN SLIGHTED,

2487
01:16:05,019 --> 01:16:06,937
ONCE AT THE ALTAR AND NOW AT THE

2488
01:16:06,979 --> 01:16:08,398
REUNION.

2489
01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:09,273
>> Vanessa: PUTTING IN

2490
01:16:09,315 --> 01:16:10,107
CONSIDERATION THE WOMAN YOU WERE

2491
01:16:10,149 --> 01:16:13,069
GOING TO MARRY, OR FEELINGS?

2492
01:16:13,110 --> 01:16:15,071
>> 100%.

2493
01:16:15,112 --> 01:16:15,988
THAT'S A LOT THAT'S GOING INTO

2494
01:16:16,030 --> 01:16:17,907
THIS AND I'M GOING TO DIRECT US

2495
01:16:17,948 --> 01:16:20,910
TO THE PUBLIC.

2496
01:16:20,951 --> 01:16:23,662
AT THIS POINT, THIS IS NOT ABOUT

2497
01:16:23,704 --> 01:16:25,456
JACKIE AND MARSHALL ANYMORE.

2498
01:16:25,498 --> 01:16:26,832
LET THAT BE BYGONES.

2499
01:16:26,874 --> 01:16:27,750
FOCUS, LET THEM MOVE ON.

2500
01:16:27,791 --> 01:16:31,921
LET ME MOVE ON.

2501
01:16:31,962 --> 01:16:33,005
FORGET IT.

2502
01:16:33,047 --> 01:16:36,342
JACKIE AND JOSH ARE HAPPY.

2503
01:16:36,384 --> 01:16:37,676
I'M HAPPY.

2504
01:16:37,718 --> 01:16:38,553
LET IT DIE.

2505
01:16:38,594 --> 01:16:40,846
>> Nick: SPEAKING OF MOVING ON

2506
01:16:40,888 --> 01:16:41,722
ON.

2507
01:16:41,764 --> 01:16:43,266
>> Vanessa: HEY, IT'S TIME TO

2508
01:16:43,307 --> 01:16:44,100
MOVE ON.

2509
01:16:44,141 --> 01:16:45,518
>> Nick: WE ARE GOING TO GET

2510
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:47,603
BACK TO SALIVATING THE KEY

2511
01:16:47,644 --> 01:16:48,479
INGREDIENT OF THIS

2512
01:16:48,521 --> 01:16:49,188
"LOVE IS BLIND" EXPERIMENT WHICH

2513
01:16:49,230 --> 01:16:51,148
IS OF COURSE THE LOVE.

2514
01:16:51,190 --> 01:16:52,942
WE'RE GOING TO GET BACK TO

2515
01:16:52,983 --> 01:16:54,860
CELEBRATING THE KEY INGREDIENT.

2516
01:16:54,902 --> 01:16:55,736
HERE'S A TASTE OF WHAT MARRIED

2517
01:16:55,778 --> 01:16:59,656
LIFE IS LIKE WITH OUR COUPLES

2518
01:16:59,698 --> 01:17:00,241
TODAY.

2519
01:17:00,283 --> 01:17:03,619
CHECK IT OUT.

2520
01:17:03,660 --> 01:17:07,081
>> WELCOME.

2521
01:17:07,123 --> 01:17:10,667
NETFLIX CRIB.

2522
01:17:10,709 --> 01:17:14,671
THIS IS THE EVOLUTION OF THE

2523
01:17:14,713 --> 01:17:16,090
SHOE WALL THAT YOU MAY HAVE GOT

2524
01:17:16,132 --> 01:17:18,675
A SNEAK PEEK AT ON THE SHOW.

2525
01:17:18,717 --> 01:17:20,010
AS YOU CAN SEE PROBABLY ABOUT

2526
01:17:20,052 --> 01:17:21,345
TWICE AS BIG BECAUSE I CAN'T

2527
01:17:21,387 --> 01:17:22,721
STOP BUYING THEM.

2528
01:17:22,763 --> 01:17:24,098
THERE ARE SOME PICTURES HERE.

2529
01:17:24,140 --> 01:17:25,224
YOU MAY RECOGNIZE THESE FROM THE

2530
01:17:25,266 --> 01:17:27,184
SHOW.

2531
01:17:27,226 --> 01:17:28,018
THESE ARE THE PORTRAITS THAT I

2532
01:17:28,060 --> 01:17:29,145
SHOT OF TIFFANY IN SEATTLE.

2533
01:17:29,186 --> 01:17:31,314
THIS IS OUR LIVING ROOM.

2534
01:17:31,355 --> 01:17:33,774
WE GOT, WE ARE ABOUT TO HAVE

2535
01:17:33,816 --> 01:17:34,567
SOME BREAKFAST.

2536
01:17:34,609 --> 01:17:36,360
>> WELCOME TO BREAKFAST AT

2537
01:17:36,402 --> 01:17:37,236
TIFFANY'S.

2538
01:17:37,278 --> 01:17:38,112
WE USUALLY JUST START OFF OUR

2539
01:17:38,154 --> 01:17:40,114
DAY WITH A LITTLE BIT OF YOGURT,

2540
01:17:40,156 --> 01:17:45,035
SOME GRANOLA.

2541
01:17:45,077 --> 01:17:46,537
BUT THIS IS A SPECIAL DAY

2542
01:17:46,579 --> 01:17:47,622
BECAUSE YOU ARE IN OUR HOME.

2543
01:17:47,663 --> 01:17:49,290
WE ARE GOING TO HAVE MIMOSAS.

2544
01:17:49,332 --> 01:17:52,960
CHEERS TO US.

2545
01:17:53,002 --> 01:17:56,922
CHEERS TO THE BROWNS.

2546
01:17:56,964 --> 01:17:58,132
>> DON'T HIT ME.

2547
01:17:58,174 --> 01:18:01,802
>> HOLD UP.

2548
01:18:01,844 --> 01:18:06,557
THIS IS AWKWARD.

2549
01:18:06,599 --> 01:18:09,810
[CORK POPS]

2550
01:18:09,852 --> 01:18:11,770
>> HELLO, WELCOME TO OUR HUMBLE

2551
01:18:11,812 --> 01:18:12,688
ABODE.

2552
01:18:12,729 --> 01:18:14,940
LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.

2553
01:18:14,982 --> 01:18:17,776
>> HERE'S THE ENTRY TO OUR HOME.

2554
01:18:17,818 --> 01:18:19,362
WE'VE GOT DOG TOYS EVERYWHERE.

2555
01:18:19,403 --> 01:18:20,154
>> EVERYWHERE.

2556
01:18:20,196 --> 01:18:22,365
>> HERE'S THE MONEY SPACE,

2557
01:18:22,406 --> 01:18:23,073
HERE'S OUR LIVING AREA.

2558
01:18:23,115 --> 01:18:24,450
WE LOVE THIS.

2559
01:18:24,492 --> 01:18:27,453
WE HAVE ALMOST PANORAMIC VIEW OF

2560
01:18:27,495 --> 01:18:28,412
SEATTLE, THE PUGET SOUND.

2561
01:18:28,454 --> 01:18:29,913
PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW, WHERE IS

2562
01:18:29,955 --> 01:18:30,706
THE PINK?

2563
01:18:30,747 --> 01:18:32,708
YOU CAN SEE IT, HERE IS MY

2564
01:18:32,749 --> 01:18:33,792
FAVORITE CORNER.

2565
01:18:33,834 --> 01:18:37,087
I CALL IT MY HAPPY CORNER.

2566
01:18:37,129 --> 01:18:39,340
THESE CHAIRS GIVE ME LIFE.

2567
01:18:39,382 --> 01:18:41,300
KWAME'S COUCH, EVERYBODY.

2568
01:18:41,342 --> 01:18:44,428
KWAME'S GUITAR.

2569
01:18:44,470 --> 01:18:46,805
WE'VE GOT COOL SHELF.

2570
01:18:46,847 --> 01:18:50,184
WE'VE GOT A LOT OF OUR PHOTOS.

2571
01:18:50,226 --> 01:18:51,644
THE FIRST PHOTO WE EVER TOOK

2572
01:18:51,686 --> 01:18:52,520
TOGETHER.

2573
01:18:52,562 --> 01:18:55,565
>> HERE WE ARE IN THE BEDROOM.

2574
01:18:55,606 --> 01:18:57,983
THIS IS OUR BATHROOM BUT

2575
01:18:58,025 --> 01:18:59,109
PRIMARILY CHELSEA'S.

2576
01:18:59,151 --> 01:19:05,282
I PRAYER PRIMARILY USE
THE ONE IN THE

2577
01:19:05,324 --> 01:19:07,743
OFFICE.

2578
01:19:07,784 --> 01:19:08,578
>> ANY MARRIAGE TIP, GET YOUR

2579
01:19:08,619 --> 01:19:11,622
OWN BATHROOM.

2580
01:19:11,664 --> 01:19:13,499
>> I THOUGHT I WOULD BRING IT

2581
01:19:13,541 --> 01:19:14,417
OUT FOR YOU ALL.

2582
01:19:14,458 --> 01:19:18,254
I PUT IT OR I KEEP IT UNDER THE

2583
01:19:18,295 --> 01:19:20,673
TOP PART OF THIS OR UNDER MY

2584
01:19:20,715 --> 01:19:21,340
PILLOW.

2585
01:19:21,382 --> 01:19:27,638
THAT IS BABA'S HOME.

2586
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:29,724
>> THINK YOU FOR JOINING US.

2587
01:19:29,765 --> 01:19:30,849
>> GOOD NIGHT.

2588
01:19:37,732 --> 01:19:39,650
>> WE THOUGHT WE WOULD SHARE

2589
01:19:39,692 --> 01:19:43,654
WITH YOU A LITTLE SONG THAT I

2590
01:19:43,696 --> 01:19:46,156
WROTE FOR BLISS ON

2591
01:19:46,198 --> 01:19:49,243
VALENTINE'S DAY.

2592
01:19:49,285 --> 01:19:55,165
>> SPARKLY, SHINY THING.

2593
01:19:55,207 --> 01:19:58,252
SO SWEET.

2594
01:19:58,294 --> 01:20:05,509
>> [SINGING]

2595
01:20:05,551 --> 01:20:06,427
WHEN I'M WITH YOU, THEY ARE ALL

2596
01:20:06,469 --> 01:20:12,475
I SEE.

2597
01:20:12,516 --> 01:20:16,646
YOU DON'T NEED TO BE NO...

2598
01:20:16,687 --> 01:20:19,022
GIRL, YOU'RE ALL THAT'S IN MY

2599
01:20:19,064 --> 01:20:26,071
DREAM.

2600
01:20:31,285 --> 01:20:38,292
[SINGING]

2601
01:20:44,715 --> 01:20:50,095
[MUSIC PLAYING]

2602
01:20:50,137 --> 01:20:57,144
[LAUGHTER]

2603
01:21:03,526 --> 01:21:06,779
>> [LAUGHS]

2604
01:21:06,821 --> 01:21:09,615
>> SLEEPING BEAUTY IS STILL HERE

2605
01:21:09,657 --> 01:21:10,324
HERE.

2606
01:21:10,366 --> 01:21:12,451
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

2607
01:21:12,493 --> 01:21:15,120
>> Vanessa: SO MANY FEELS AND

2608
01:21:15,162 --> 01:21:15,996
THAT LITTLE MONTAGE.

2609
01:21:16,038 --> 01:21:17,581
I'VE GOT TO SAY FIRST OF ALL I'M

2610
01:21:17,623 --> 01:21:18,582
SITTING HERE NEXT TO TIFFANY AND

2611
01:21:18,624 --> 01:21:20,584
SHE'S LIKE, I DON'T REMEMBER

2612
01:21:20,626 --> 01:21:21,460
THIS VIDEO.

2613
01:21:21,502 --> 01:21:23,838
BUT I'VE GOT TO SAY, TIFFANY,

2614
01:21:23,879 --> 01:21:26,590
YOU WAKE UP SO BEAUTIFULLY AND

2615
01:21:26,632 --> 01:21:27,591
DELICATE.

2616
01:21:27,633 --> 01:21:28,509
WHEN HE COMES TO WAKE YOU UP.

2617
01:21:28,551 --> 01:21:30,927
>> SHE IS LIKE THE DISNEY

2618
01:21:30,969 --> 01:21:31,762
VILLAIN.

2619
01:21:31,804 --> 01:21:33,096
>> Vanessa: YOU ARE SO

2620
01:21:33,138 --> 01:21:34,264
GRACEFUL AND SO BEAUTIFUL.

2621
01:21:34,306 --> 01:21:35,725
I LOVED WATCHING EVERYTHING THAT

2622
01:21:35,766 --> 01:21:36,475
VIDEO.

2623
01:21:36,517 --> 01:21:37,351
I GOT A LITTLE EMOTIONAL.

2624
01:21:37,393 --> 01:21:39,228
I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL REMEMBER

2625
01:21:39,269 --> 01:21:40,604
ABOUT A YEAR AGO WE CAME INTO

2626
01:21:40,646 --> 01:21:42,064
THE POTS ON THE WOMEN'S SIDE,

2627
01:21:42,105 --> 01:21:43,774
THEY WERE LIKE, MOM AND DAD.

2628
01:21:43,816 --> 01:21:46,109
THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THESE

2629
01:21:46,151 --> 01:21:46,985
TWO.

2630
01:21:47,027 --> 01:21:47,944
I FEEL REALLY EXCITED AND PROUD

2631
01:21:47,986 --> 01:21:49,154
AND I'M NOT TAKING OWNERSHIP BUT

2632
01:21:49,196 --> 01:21:51,365
WHEN I SEE THE THREE COUPLES

2633
01:21:51,407 --> 01:21:52,658
TOGETHER MARRIED AND VACATIONING

2634
01:21:52,700 --> 01:21:53,617
TOGETHER, MATCHING BATHING

2635
01:21:53,659 --> 01:21:54,326
SUITS.

2636
01:21:54,368 --> 01:21:57,872
DOING MUSIC MONTAGES.

2637
01:21:57,913 --> 01:22:00,040
AUNTIE VANESSA IS STILL HOPING

2638
01:22:00,082 --> 01:22:01,417
FOR THAT "LOVE IS BLIND" BABY.

2639
01:22:01,458 --> 01:22:04,670
>> Nick: ZACK, NICE JOB ON THE

2640
01:22:04,712 --> 01:22:05,546
SONG.

2641
01:22:05,588 --> 01:22:06,881
>> Vanessa: CHELSEA, YOU SAID

2642
01:22:06,922 --> 01:22:08,090
MARRIAGE ADVICE.

2643
01:22:08,131 --> 01:22:09,759
KEEP YOUR OWN BATHROOM.

2644
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:11,385
YOU ALSO SAID KWAME'S COUCH IS

2645
01:22:11,427 --> 01:22:12,469
HERE.

2646
01:22:12,511 --> 01:22:16,390
IS THAT THE SLEEP COUCH?

2647
01:22:16,432 --> 01:22:18,809
>> IT IS STILL THE SAME COUCH.

2648
01:22:18,851 --> 01:22:20,352
>> IT'S THE SAME COUCH AT MY OLD

2649
01:22:20,394 --> 01:22:21,478
PLACE.

2650
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:22,979
BRETT AND I HAVE THE SAME COUCH.

2651
01:22:23,021 --> 01:22:25,023
>> Vanessa: DO YOU SLEEP ON

2652
01:22:25,065 --> 01:22:26,358
THAT COUNT?

2653
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:27,526
>> NO.

2654
01:22:27,568 --> 01:22:28,444
THROUGHOUT MY SINGLE LIFE, WHEN

2655
01:22:28,485 --> 01:22:29,986
I WOULD BE AT HOME.

2656
01:22:30,028 --> 01:22:32,865
WHEN I WAS AT HOME, I WOULD

2657
01:22:32,907 --> 01:22:33,699
TRAVEL A LOT.

2658
01:22:33,741 --> 01:22:34,909
I WOULD SLEEP ON THE COUCH A

2659
01:22:34,950 --> 01:22:36,034
LOT.

2660
01:22:36,076 --> 01:22:36,786
I DON'T KNOW.

2661
01:22:36,827 --> 01:22:38,621
ONCE A WEEK OR SOMETHING.

2662
01:22:38,662 --> 01:22:40,122
>> Nick: EVEN IN MARRIED LIFE

2663
01:22:40,163 --> 01:22:41,498
WE HAVE TO SLEEP ON THE COUCH

2664
01:22:41,540 --> 01:22:43,083
FROM TIME TO TIME.

2665
01:22:43,125 --> 01:22:43,959
IT STILL HAPPENS.

2666
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:45,502
>> ONE THING I DO, IF I SPEND

2667
01:22:45,544 --> 01:22:48,130
THE NIGHT ON THE COUCH, I WAKE

2668
01:22:48,171 --> 01:22:49,172
UP BEFORE SHE DOES.

2669
01:22:49,214 --> 01:22:50,215
>> Vanessa: AND YOU CRAWL IN

2670
01:22:50,257 --> 01:22:50,841
BED.

2671
01:22:50,883 --> 01:22:51,842
I LIKE THAT.

2672
01:22:51,884 --> 01:22:52,676
QUICK QUESTION.

2673
01:22:52,718 --> 01:22:54,219
I DIDN'T GET TO ASK EARLIER

2674
01:22:54,261 --> 01:22:56,847
ABOUT CLARIFYING, IT'S A LONG

2675
01:22:56,889 --> 01:22:57,765
BEAUTIFUL NAME AND YOU SAID IT

2676
01:22:57,807 --> 01:23:00,643
SO BEAUTIFULLY WHEN YOU ARE

2677
01:23:00,684 --> 01:23:03,813
DOING YOUR VOWS, I LOVED THAT

2678
01:23:03,854 --> 01:23:05,522
YOU ADDRESSED HIS ENTIRE NAME.

2679
01:23:05,564 --> 01:23:07,483
KWAME, DID YOU WANT TO SAY

2680
01:23:07,524 --> 01:23:10,694
SOMETHING ABOUT THAT?

2681
01:23:10,736 --> 01:23:13,029
>> THERE WAS A MOMENT WHEN I

2682
01:23:13,071 --> 01:23:15,031
SAID I WANTED TO INTRODUCE

2683
01:23:15,073 --> 01:23:16,241
MYSELF AS ALEX.

2684
01:23:16,283 --> 01:23:17,159
BUT IT'S KWAME.

2685
01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:18,619
I'M SO PROUD OF MY NAME BUT FOR

2686
01:23:18,661 --> 01:23:19,829
SOME REASON THAT WASN'T IN

2687
01:23:19,870 --> 01:23:20,871
THERE.

2688
01:23:20,913 --> 01:23:22,873
THAT WAS ME MENTIONING THAT,

2689
01:23:22,915 --> 01:23:25,041
BEFORE I WENT ON AND I TALKED TO

2690
01:23:25,083 --> 01:23:26,627
THE PRODUCER AND TALKED ABOUT

2691
01:23:26,669 --> 01:23:27,920
HOW TO APPROACH THE EXPERIMENT

2692
01:23:27,962 --> 01:23:30,255
IN THE RIGHT WAY, WE TALKED

2693
01:23:30,297 --> 01:23:31,256
ABOUT MAYBE NOT TALKING ABOUT

2694
01:23:31,298 --> 01:23:32,508
RACE OR COLOR FOR THE FIRST FEW

2695
01:23:32,549 --> 01:23:33,884
DAYS AND SO MY THOUGHTS WERE, IS

2696
01:23:33,926 --> 01:23:36,052
THERE A WAY I CAN MAKE SURE THAT

2697
01:23:36,094 --> 01:23:37,805
I HONOR THIS EXPERIMENT FOR

2698
01:23:37,847 --> 01:23:38,681
EVERYBODY IN IT.

2699
01:23:38,722 --> 01:23:40,015
IF I GO BY MY FIRST NAME MAYBE

2700
01:23:40,056 --> 01:23:41,433
IT MAKES SENSE BECAUSE THAT WAY

2701
01:23:41,475 --> 01:23:43,602
I'M NOT WALKING IN, HEY, KWAME

2702
01:23:43,644 --> 01:23:46,897
OF PEOPLE TRYING TO PUT ME IN AN

2703
01:23:46,939 --> 01:23:48,482
AREA WHERE THEY ARE PREJUDGING.

2704
01:23:48,524 --> 01:23:50,233
IT HELPS EVERYBODY TAKE THE BEST

2705
01:23:50,275 --> 01:23:50,943
OUT OF THE EXPERIMENT.

2706
01:23:50,985 --> 01:23:52,194
IT'S LIKE, MY NAME IS SO

2707
01:23:52,235 --> 01:23:53,069
IMPORTANT TO ME.

2708
01:23:53,111 --> 01:23:54,571
I HAVE ALWAYS GONE BY KWAME

2709
01:23:54,613 --> 01:23:55,906
UNTIL I SAW THE NEGATIVE

2710
01:23:55,948 --> 01:23:56,991
REACTION TO WHAT I NEEDED TO

2711
01:23:57,032 --> 01:23:57,741
CLEAR IT UP.

2712
01:23:57,783 --> 01:23:59,117
I LOVE WHO I AM.

2713
01:23:59,159 --> 01:24:00,619
I LOVE MY NAME.

2714
01:24:00,661 --> 01:24:04,414
THAT NEEDS TO BE SAID.

2715
01:24:04,456 --> 01:24:06,542
>> Vanessa: I WANT TO SAY

2716
01:24:06,583 --> 01:24:07,543
THEIR FOOT IS DOWN.

2717
01:24:07,584 --> 01:24:08,961
THE MAN HAS SPOKEN.

2718
01:24:09,003 --> 01:24:11,129
BARBARA IS HIS SISTER.

2719
01:24:11,171 --> 01:24:12,172
CHELSEA, WHO LOOKS LIKE A

2720
01:24:12,214 --> 01:24:15,175
BEAUTIFUL PINK BARBIE, HAS MET

2721
01:24:15,217 --> 01:24:18,804
HIS MOTHER AND HIS NAME IS

2722
01:24:18,846 --> 01:24:19,513
PROUDLY ALEX KWAME.

2723
01:24:19,555 --> 01:24:23,308
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

2724
01:24:23,350 --> 01:24:24,768
>> Nick: IT IS SO OBVIOUS

2725
01:24:24,810 --> 01:24:25,644
BECAUSE WE ARE SITTING RIGHT

2726
01:24:25,686 --> 01:24:27,604
NEXT TO YOU HOW HAPPY YOU ARE

2727
01:24:27,646 --> 01:24:28,772
TOGETHER, HOW SPECIAL THIS YEAR

2728
01:24:28,814 --> 01:24:29,690
HAS CLEARLY BEEN FOR YOU BUT

2729
01:24:29,732 --> 01:24:31,233
I'VE GOT TO ASK YOU, ARE YOU AT

2730
01:24:31,274 --> 01:24:32,317
ALL SURPRISED BY SOME OF THE

2731
01:24:32,359 --> 01:24:34,319
REACTIONS OUT THERE FOR PEOPLE

2732
01:24:34,361 --> 01:24:36,154
WHO ARE SHOCKED AND SURPRISED

2733
01:24:36,196 --> 01:24:37,948
THAT YOU DIDN'T SAY NO --

2734
01:24:37,990 --> 01:24:40,617
>> I'M SO GLAD THAT YOU ASKED.

2735
01:24:40,659 --> 01:24:41,952
>> Nick: THE FLOOR IS YOURS.

2736
01:24:41,994 --> 01:24:43,203
>> I WILL SAY THIS.

2737
01:24:43,245 --> 01:24:46,874
I FEEL THAT WOMEN FEEL THE NEED

2738
01:24:46,916 --> 01:24:49,125
TO EXPLAIN, TO SAY THEY'RE

2739
01:24:49,167 --> 01:24:50,126
SORRY, TO DEFEND.

2740
01:24:50,168 --> 01:24:51,336
WOMEN NEED TO FEEL EMPOWERED TO

2741
01:24:51,378 --> 01:24:52,838
MAKE DECISIONS THAT ARE BEST FOR

2742
01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:57,051
THEMSELVES, PERIOD.

2743
01:24:57,092 --> 01:24:58,134
AND THAT'S WHAT I DID FOR ME AND

2744
01:24:58,176 --> 01:25:01,346
THAT'S WHAT I DID FOR US.

2745
01:25:01,388 --> 01:25:02,932
AND I'M SO HAPPY THAT I DID AND

2746
01:25:02,973 --> 01:25:04,683
I COULD NOT BE HAPPIER.

2747
01:25:04,725 --> 01:25:05,642
MARRIAGE IS NOT EASY.

2748
01:25:05,684 --> 01:25:09,145
WE HAVE LEARNED THAT.

2749
01:25:09,187 --> 01:25:10,022
[LAUGHTER]

2750
01:25:10,064 --> 01:25:11,440
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I'LL SAY, IT'S

2751
01:25:11,481 --> 01:25:12,024
WORTH IT.

2752
01:25:12,066 --> 01:25:13,817
IT'S WORTH IT.

2753
01:25:13,859 --> 01:25:15,945
I WANTED SOMEONE TO BE ABLE TO

2754
01:25:15,986 --> 01:25:18,072
MEET ME WHERE I WAS EMOTIONALLY.

2755
01:25:18,113 --> 01:25:20,616
AND KWAME DOES THAT ANY ALSO

2756
01:25:20,657 --> 01:25:22,325
CHALLENGES ME TO BE BETTER THAN

2757
01:25:22,367 --> 01:25:23,118
I'VE NEVER HAD ANYBODY IN MY

2758
01:25:23,159 --> 01:25:24,494
WHOLE LIFE DO THAT FOR ME.

2759
01:25:24,536 --> 01:25:25,913
>> Vanessa: I REALLY DO

2760
01:25:25,955 --> 01:25:28,082
BELIEVE, I HATE TO SAY IT BUT

2761
01:25:28,123 --> 01:25:29,458
IT'S UNFORTUNATE PEOPLE JUST

2762
01:25:29,499 --> 01:25:30,333
WANT TO HATE WHEN YOU'RE SO

2763
01:25:30,375 --> 01:25:31,085
HAPPY AND WHEN YOU KNOW WHAT YOU

2764
01:25:31,126 --> 01:25:32,002
WANT.

2765
01:25:32,044 --> 01:25:32,920
YOU SAID IT AND YOU WENT FOR IT

2766
01:25:32,962 --> 01:25:38,634
BUT PEOPLE FORGET ALEX KWAME IS

2767
01:25:38,675 --> 01:25:40,218
A GROWN-ASS MAN AND IF HE WANTS

2768
01:25:40,260 --> 01:25:44,974
THE WOMAN, HE'S GOING TO GET

2769
01:25:45,015 --> 01:25:45,766
HER.

2770
01:25:45,808 --> 01:25:47,684
HE WANTS THIS WOMAN AND HE

2771
01:25:47,726 --> 01:25:49,269
MARRIED THIS WOMAN AND SHE

2772
01:25:49,311 --> 01:25:50,186
WANTS.

2773
01:25:50,228 --> 01:25:51,063
WHAT'S YOUR RESPONSE TO PEOPLE?

2774
01:25:51,105 --> 01:25:52,481
YOU KIND OF SET IT BEAUTIFULLY

2775
01:25:52,522 --> 01:25:54,817
ON YOUR INSTAGRAM AND I LOVE

2776
01:25:54,858 --> 01:25:57,861
THAT.

2777
01:25:57,903 --> 01:25:59,321
YOU KNOW THAT THIS JOURNEY, YOU

2778
01:25:59,362 --> 01:26:00,238
FELL IN LOVE.

2779
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:02,240
>> I'M GOING TO SAY SOMETHING

2780
01:26:02,282 --> 01:26:03,867
THAT BLISS SAID EARLIER, WHAT

2781
01:26:03,909 --> 01:26:05,702
YOU'RE SEEING WAS LITERAL GOOD

2782
01:26:05,744 --> 01:26:08,413
LESS THAN 1%, DAB ON WHAT OUR

2783
01:26:08,455 --> 01:26:11,249
ENTIRE RELATIONSHIP HAS BEEN.

2784
01:26:11,291 --> 01:26:12,375
WHAT WE GOT TO EXPERIENCE

2785
01:26:12,417 --> 01:26:15,420
TOGETHER WAS WHAT KEPT US MOVING

2786
01:26:15,462 --> 01:26:16,505
FORWARD, WHAT HELPED US FALL IN

2787
01:26:16,546 --> 01:26:18,841
LOVE SEWN A MANNER WHEN ANYONE

2788
01:26:18,882 --> 01:26:19,967
SAW, NO MATTER ANY DEPICTIONS OR

2789
01:26:20,009 --> 01:26:21,718
WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, WE

2790
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:23,637
WERE MADLY IN LOVE.

2791
01:26:23,679 --> 01:26:24,930
THERE WAS A LOT MORE.

2792
01:26:24,972 --> 01:26:26,890
THE DECISION THAT I HAD TO MAKE

2793
01:26:26,932 --> 01:26:28,725
WAS NOT ACTUALLY SEATTLE VERSUS

2794
01:26:28,767 --> 01:26:29,601
GETTING MARRIED.

2795
01:26:29,643 --> 01:26:31,812
IT WAS, I HAD A MUCH DIFFERENT

2796
01:26:31,854 --> 01:26:32,395
LIFE.

2797
01:26:32,437 --> 01:26:33,396
I WAS A NOMAD.

2798
01:26:33,438 --> 01:26:35,398
I USED TO LIVE OUTSIDE OF THE

2799
01:26:35,440 --> 01:26:37,192
COUNTRY FOR SIX MONTHS A YEAR

2800
01:26:37,233 --> 01:26:38,401
AND IT WAS A DIFFICULT LIFE TO

2801
01:26:38,443 --> 01:26:39,444
THINK ABOUT TRANSITIONING FROM

2802
01:26:39,486 --> 01:26:40,195
BUT THAT'S WHAT WAS SO

2803
01:26:40,236 --> 01:26:41,113
BEAUTIFUL.

2804
01:26:41,155 --> 01:26:42,156
CHELSEA AND I SAT DOWN AND

2805
01:26:42,197 --> 01:26:43,198
TALKED ABOUT TRANSITIONING FROM

2806
01:26:43,239 --> 01:26:45,784
THAT LIFE AND SHE CAME AT IT IN

2807
01:26:45,826 --> 01:26:46,660
SUCH A BEAUTIFUL, EMPATHETIC,

2808
01:26:46,702 --> 01:26:48,537
AND CARING WAY I KNEW IF I PUT

2809
01:26:48,578 --> 01:26:50,622
THAT LIFE ASIDE AND I MARRIED MY

2810
01:26:50,664 --> 01:26:51,957
DREAM GIRL, WE WOULD FIND THAT

2811
01:26:51,999 --> 01:26:52,833
LIFE AGAIN AND IT WOULD ALL BE

2812
01:26:52,875 --> 01:26:53,667
WORTH IT.

2813
01:26:53,709 --> 01:26:55,044
>> Nick: CAN I SAY SOMETHING

2814
01:26:55,085 --> 01:26:55,919
TO ALL OF YOU?

2815
01:26:55,961 --> 01:26:58,254
THIS IS TRUE FOR EVERYBODY.

2816
01:26:58,296 --> 01:26:59,923
WHEN YOU DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS

2817
01:26:59,965 --> 01:27:01,299
AND PUT YOURSELF ON TV AND

2818
01:27:01,341 --> 01:27:02,551
PEOPLE WATCH, THEY FEEL ENTITLED

2819
01:27:02,592 --> 01:27:04,594
TO HAVE AN OPINION AND THAT'S

2820
01:27:04,636 --> 01:27:06,262
FAIR BECAUSE IT'S TELEVISION.

2821
01:27:06,304 --> 01:27:07,222
BUT THERE'S ONLY ONE TRUTH AND

2822
01:27:07,263 --> 01:27:08,431
THAT'S THE TRUTH THAT YOU ALL

2823
01:27:08,473 --> 01:27:09,391
LIVE EACH AND EVERY DAY.

2824
01:27:09,432 --> 01:27:11,560
YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR A LOT OF

2825
01:27:11,601 --> 01:27:13,729
NOISE OUT THERE, A LOT OF TALK.

2826
01:27:13,770 --> 01:27:14,521
LIVE YOUR TRUTH.

2827
01:27:14,563 --> 01:27:16,023
TRUE FOR EVERY ONE OF YOU.

2828
01:27:16,065 --> 01:27:17,482
LIVE YOUR TRUTH AND YOU'RE GOING

2829
01:27:17,524 --> 01:27:19,943
TO BE FINE.

2830
01:27:19,985 --> 01:27:22,071
>> THAT'S RIGHT.

2831
01:27:22,112 --> 01:27:23,864
[APPLAUSE]

2832
01:27:23,906 --> 01:27:24,447
>> Vanessa: ABSOLUTELY.

2833
01:27:24,489 --> 01:27:25,281
MARSHALL.

2834
01:27:25,323 --> 01:27:27,076
>> I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF

2835
01:27:27,117 --> 01:27:28,952
GRACE THAT NEEDS TO BE GIVEN TO

2836
01:27:28,994 --> 01:27:30,913
EVERYONE HERE REGARDLESS OF WHAT

2837
01:27:30,954 --> 01:27:32,372
WAS SAID, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING,

2838
01:27:32,414 --> 01:27:36,251
AND WHAT WE ARE ALL HEARING.

2839
01:27:36,292 --> 01:27:38,545
IT DOESN'T MATTER REALLY IT

2840
01:27:38,587 --> 01:27:40,255
DOESN'T IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF

2841
01:27:40,296 --> 01:27:41,090
THINGS BECAUSE WE ALL PUT

2842
01:27:41,131 --> 01:27:42,758
OURSELVES OUT THERE AND NO

2843
01:27:42,799 --> 01:27:45,301
MATTER IF IT'S IRINA, MICHAEL,

2844
01:27:45,343 --> 01:27:46,302
MYSELF, ANYONE ON THIS SIDE,

2845
01:27:46,344 --> 01:27:48,138
THESE GUYS HERE, THIS IS ALL

2846
01:27:48,180 --> 01:27:51,558
ABOUT LOVE AND IT'S NEVER

2847
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:53,894
SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT THIS DRAMA,

2848
01:27:53,936 --> 01:27:54,770
HELL-BENT ON FIGHTING.

2849
01:27:54,811 --> 01:27:56,605
THIS IS ABOUT THESE TWO HERE,

2850
01:27:56,646 --> 01:27:58,774
THOSE TWO THERE AND THOSE TWO

2851
01:27:58,815 --> 01:28:00,776
THERE.

2852
01:28:00,817 --> 01:28:02,986
PERIOD.

2853
01:28:03,028 --> 01:28:05,321
>> I AGREE AND WHAT I WILL ADD

2854
01:28:05,363 --> 01:28:07,116
REAL QUICK.

2855
01:28:07,157 --> 01:28:08,742
WE SAW A LITTLE PERCENTAGE BUT

2856
01:28:08,784 --> 01:28:10,368
SOME OF IT IS ABOUT DRAMA AND

2857
01:28:10,410 --> 01:28:11,912
FIGHTING AND TRUST ME WHEN I

2858
01:28:11,954 --> 01:28:13,956
TELL YOU I'VE BEEN WITH THIS MAN

2859
01:28:13,997 --> 01:28:14,748
17 YEARS.

2860
01:28:14,790 --> 01:28:16,208
IT'S NOT ALL ROSES AND

2861
01:28:16,250 --> 01:28:17,251
BUTTERFLIES.

2862
01:28:17,292 --> 01:28:18,168
IT'S NOT ALL ROSES AND

2863
01:28:18,210 --> 01:28:19,211
BUTTERFLIES BUT IT'S HOW WE

2864
01:28:19,253 --> 01:28:22,839
REACT, HOW WE TURNED TOWARDS

2865
01:28:22,881 --> 01:28:23,715
EACH OTHER.

2866
01:28:23,757 --> 01:28:25,801
WHETHER IT'S A RELATIONSHIP WITH

2867
01:28:25,842 --> 01:28:26,760
MY GIRLFRIENDS OR MY HUSBAND

2868
01:28:26,802 --> 01:28:29,096
WITH PEOPLE I WORK WITH.

2869
01:28:29,138 --> 01:28:31,473
I'M SO PROUD OF YOU FOR

2870
01:28:31,514 --> 01:28:33,934
CONTINUING TO WORK ON YOURSELVES

2871
01:28:33,976 --> 01:28:35,018
AND BE BETTER.

2872
01:28:35,060 --> 01:28:35,852
BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT

2873
01:28:35,894 --> 01:28:37,229
RELATIONSHIPS ARE ALL ABOUT.

2874
01:28:37,271 --> 01:28:40,190
WE DO HAVE A SPECIAL CLIP.

2875
01:28:40,232 --> 01:28:41,191
THIS IS SOMEONE FROM

2876
01:28:41,233 --> 01:28:42,025
"LOVE IS BLIND" IN THE PAST

2877
01:28:42,067 --> 01:28:44,360
SEASON, THEY SPENT A VIDEO

2878
01:28:44,402 --> 01:28:45,779
QUESTION FOR THE MARRIED

2879
01:28:45,821 --> 01:28:48,115
COUPLES, LET'S TAKE A LOOK.

2880
01:28:48,157 --> 01:28:52,577
>> WHAT'S GOING ON?

2881
01:28:52,619 --> 01:28:54,955
THIS IS MY SON, HE SENT MASSIVE

2882
01:28:54,997 --> 01:28:55,705
FAN OF THE "LOVE IS BLIND"

2883
01:28:55,747 --> 01:28:58,541
FRANCHISE, HE'S WATCHED

2884
01:28:58,583 --> 01:28:59,542
SEASON 4.

2885
01:28:59,584 --> 01:29:00,585
HE HAS NOT WATCHED DADDY SEASON

2886
01:29:00,627 --> 01:29:03,379
AND HE WILL NOT EVER WATCH DADDY

2887
01:29:03,421 --> 01:29:04,380
SEASON HOPEFULLY BUT WE BOTH

2888
01:29:04,422 --> 01:29:05,507
HAVE A QUESTION.

2889
01:29:05,548 --> 01:29:06,341
OUT OF THE FINAL COUPLES,

2890
01:29:06,382 --> 01:29:07,217
CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU ALL,

2891
01:29:07,259 --> 01:29:10,137
WHO'S GOING TO BE THE FIRST TO

2892
01:29:10,179 --> 01:29:10,971
BECOME PARENTS?

2893
01:29:11,013 --> 01:29:11,847
WHO'S GOING TO BE THE FIRST

2894
01:29:11,888 --> 01:29:15,851
COUPLE TO HAVE A LITTLE CUTIE

2895
01:29:15,892 --> 01:29:16,434
PIE.

2896
01:29:16,476 --> 01:29:18,187
SAY HI, AIDEN.

2897
01:29:18,228 --> 01:29:19,855
>> Nick: THERE IT IS.

2898
01:29:19,896 --> 01:29:20,772
>> Vanessa: IF THAT DOESN'T

2899
01:29:20,814 --> 01:29:24,943
MAKE YOUR OVARIES BURN.

2900
01:29:24,985 --> 01:29:29,323
I WANT A NUMBER 4 SO MUCH.

2901
01:29:29,364 --> 01:29:30,406
I WANT TO KNOW WHO IS GOING TO

2902
01:29:30,448 --> 01:29:32,117
GIVE ME THE FIRST

2903
01:29:32,159 --> 01:29:32,993
"LOVE IS BLIND" BABY.

2904
01:29:33,035 --> 01:29:35,162
I DON'T WANT TO ASK IF YOU'RE

2905
01:29:35,204 --> 01:29:36,746
TRYING BECAUSE THAT IS TMI.

2906
01:29:36,788 --> 01:29:39,374
>> Nick: I HOPE YOU ARE ALL

2907
01:29:39,415 --> 01:29:40,374
TRYING.

2908
01:29:40,416 --> 01:29:41,584
>> PRACTICING.

2909
01:29:41,626 --> 01:29:42,585
>> Vanessa: BRETT AND TIFFANY,

2910
01:29:42,627 --> 01:29:43,295
WHAT ARE YOU THINKING ON THE

2911
01:29:43,337 --> 01:29:48,675
BABY TIMELINE.

2912
01:29:48,717 --> 01:29:49,592
[BOTH SPEAKING]

2913
01:29:49,634 --> 01:29:51,427
>> AS OF NOW WE ARE JUST TRYING

2914
01:29:51,469 --> 01:29:52,386
TO ENJOY OUR MARRIAGE.

2915
01:29:52,428 --> 01:29:53,930
WE ARE TRAVELING THE WORLD,

2916
01:29:53,972 --> 01:29:55,224
GETTING TO LEARN ONE ANOTHER.

2917
01:29:55,265 --> 01:29:56,432
THE THING IS WE ARE SO COMMITTED

2918
01:29:56,474 --> 01:29:58,434
TO ONE ANOTHER.

2919
01:29:58,476 --> 01:30:00,145
WE WANT OUR LIVES HAD TO BEFORE

2920
01:30:00,187 --> 01:30:02,480
YOU BRING A LIFE INTO THIS WORLD

2921
01:30:02,522 --> 01:30:04,274
SO IT'S NOT ABOUT OH, WE ARE TO

2922
01:30:04,316 --> 01:30:05,192
HAVE A BABY RIGHT AWAY.

2923
01:30:05,234 --> 01:30:08,153
IT HAS TO BE AT THE RIGHT TIME.

2924
01:30:08,195 --> 01:30:10,947
>> I WAS ABOUT TO MAKE A JOKE.

2925
01:30:10,989 --> 01:30:13,407
Y'ALL REALLY PUT THE BABY

2926
01:30:13,449 --> 01:30:17,120
PRESSURE.

2927
01:30:17,162 --> 01:30:18,663
TO ECHO.

2928
01:30:18,705 --> 01:30:22,416
FOR US, FOR ANYBODY, ANYONE OF

2929
01:30:22,458 --> 01:30:23,835
US THE GOT MARRIED, IT'S A

2930
01:30:23,877 --> 01:30:25,170
DRASTIC TRANSITION.

2931
01:30:25,212 --> 01:30:26,546
DEFINITELY FOR HER.

2932
01:30:26,588 --> 01:30:28,506
IT WAS AN ERROR THAT MUCH OF THE

2933
01:30:28,548 --> 01:30:29,925
SHOW BUT WE LIVING IN PORTLAND

2934
01:30:29,966 --> 01:30:31,051
ON HER LIVING IN SEATTLE WAS A

2935
01:30:31,093 --> 01:30:32,761
BIG THING FOR US BECAUSE WITH MY

2936
01:30:32,802 --> 01:30:33,970
JOB AND HER JOB IT WAS BUT A

2937
01:30:34,012 --> 01:30:34,971
MUCH UNDERSTOOD THAT SHE WOULD

2938
01:30:35,013 --> 01:30:38,058
HAVE TO RELOCATE.

2939
01:30:38,100 --> 01:30:38,934
SO OBVIOUSLY WENT THROUGH A LOT

2940
01:30:38,975 --> 01:30:41,519
OF CHANGES AS A COUPLE BUT SHE

2941
01:30:41,561 --> 01:30:43,105
PERSONALLY HAS MADE A LOT OF

2942
01:30:43,146 --> 01:30:43,939
SACRIFICES.

2943
01:30:43,980 --> 01:30:44,773
FOR THE RELATIONSHIP AND I'M

2944
01:30:44,814 --> 01:30:46,440
VERY THANKFUL FOR HER TO DO

2945
01:30:46,482 --> 01:30:47,317
THAT.

2946
01:30:47,359 --> 01:30:50,362
SO WITH THAT, WE ARE LOVING LIFE

2947
01:30:50,404 --> 01:30:55,075
TOGETHER.

2948
01:30:55,117 --> 01:30:57,202
>> Vanessa: HOW CUTE WILL THEY

2949
01:30:57,244 --> 01:30:59,453
BE?

2950
01:30:59,495 --> 01:31:00,163
COLORS.

2951
01:31:00,205 --> 01:31:06,086
>> AND BABY BROWN COMES.

2952
01:31:06,128 --> 01:31:09,172
>> BABY BROWN?

2953
01:31:09,214 --> 01:31:13,843
>> AND BABY BROWN GET HERE, FLY.

2954
01:31:13,885 --> 01:31:16,930
>> Vanessa: I LOVE IT.

2955
01:31:16,972 --> 01:31:18,932
ALL RIGHT, WHAT ABOUT OVER HERE?

2956
01:31:18,974 --> 01:31:21,059
>> I THINK WHEN I ENTERED THIS,

2957
01:31:21,101 --> 01:31:22,727
I WAS, THE CLOCK WAS KIND OF

2958
01:31:22,769 --> 01:31:24,729
TAKING IN MY MIND AND I THINK

2959
01:31:24,771 --> 01:31:26,898
ONE THING THAT'S SO BEAUTIFUL

2960
01:31:26,940 --> 01:31:29,109
ABOUT THIS IS THAT I HAD TO GROW

2961
01:31:29,151 --> 01:31:31,569
TO BE WITH KWAME TOO.

2962
01:31:31,611 --> 01:31:32,737
PEOPLE MAY NOT HAVE SEEN THAT

2963
01:31:32,779 --> 01:31:34,781
BUT I LOVE MY MARRIAGE AND I

2964
01:31:34,823 --> 01:31:36,908
RESPECT KWAME SO MUCH THAT I AM

2965
01:31:36,950 --> 01:31:37,617
LIKE, LET'S ALLOW.

2966
01:31:37,659 --> 01:31:38,452
LET'S STEP BACK.

2967
01:31:38,492 --> 01:31:40,203
WE'RE GOING TO LET IT HAPPEN

2968
01:31:40,245 --> 01:31:41,537
WHEN HE NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN FOR

2969
01:31:41,579 --> 01:31:43,415
ME IT'S A BEAUTIFUL GIFT THAT

2970
01:31:43,457 --> 01:31:45,125
KWAME COULD HAVE GIVEN ME.

2971
01:31:45,167 --> 01:31:46,418
>> Nick: HOW ABOUT YOU GUYS

2972
01:31:46,460 --> 01:31:48,420
QUESTION RIGHT >> WE DO THINGS

2973
01:31:48,462 --> 01:31:49,296
REALLY FAST.

2974
01:31:49,338 --> 01:31:50,922
OUR ENGAGEMENT WAS TWO WEEKS.

2975
01:31:50,964 --> 01:31:53,800
I CAN'T WAIT TO HAVE A FAMILY.

2976
01:31:53,842 --> 01:31:54,634
>> Vanessa: I THOUGHT YOU WERE

2977
01:31:54,676 --> 01:31:59,222
GOING TO TELL ME!

2978
01:31:59,264 --> 01:32:00,932
[LAUGHTER]

2979
01:32:00,974 --> 01:32:03,477
WAIT, I'M SURE YOU DON'T DO ALL

2980
01:32:03,517 --> 01:32:04,227
THINGS FAST.

2981
01:32:04,269 --> 01:32:04,978
[LAUGHTER]

2982
01:32:05,020 --> 01:32:06,938
>> NO, WE TAKE SOME TIME.

2983
01:32:06,980 --> 01:32:07,897
>> Vanessa: JUST MAKING SURE.

2984
01:32:07,939 --> 01:32:10,150
>> WE ARE ALL GOOD IN THAT

2985
01:32:10,192 --> 01:32:11,026
DEPARTMENT.

2986
01:32:11,067 --> 01:32:12,194
I CAN'T WAIT TO HAVE A FAMILY

2987
01:32:12,235 --> 01:32:14,196
WITH HIM AND I'M EXCITED FOR IT.

2988
01:32:14,237 --> 01:32:15,364
WE ARE STILL TALKING ABOUT WHEN

2989
01:32:15,405 --> 01:32:16,530
THAT TIME IS BUT I'M REALLY,

2990
01:32:16,572 --> 01:32:18,908
REALLY EXCITED FOR IT.

2991
01:32:18,950 --> 01:32:20,202
>> Nick: CLEARLY THIS ONE

2992
01:32:20,243 --> 01:32:21,077
CAN'T WAIT.

2993
01:32:21,119 --> 01:32:22,704
WHENEVER THE TIME IS, VANESSA IS

2994
01:32:22,745 --> 01:32:23,497
READY.

2995
01:32:23,537 --> 01:32:24,373
>> Vanessa: ONE LAST THING

2996
01:32:24,414 --> 01:32:25,415
FROM AN OLD MARRIED COUPLE, I

2997
01:32:25,457 --> 01:32:26,582
THINK THAT YOU ARE RIGHT TO

2998
01:32:26,624 --> 01:32:27,501
SETTLE IN AS A COUPLE AND CREATE

2999
01:32:27,541 --> 01:32:28,918
THE FOUNDATION BECAUSE WHEN YOU

3000
01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:29,794
DO GET KIDS, THAT FOUNDATION IS

3001
01:32:29,836 --> 01:32:31,671
WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO FALL BACK

3002
01:32:31,713 --> 01:32:32,546
ON.

3003
01:32:32,588 --> 01:32:33,923
WE CONTINUE TO FALL BACK ON THAT

3004
01:32:33,965 --> 01:32:35,800
WE KNOW THAT WHEN THEY ARE 18,

3005
01:32:35,842 --> 01:32:36,968
THEY LEAVE AND WE'VE GOT EACH

3006
01:32:37,010 --> 01:32:38,552
OTHER BUT IT DOES GET PRETTY

3007
01:32:38,594 --> 01:32:40,347
AWESOME WHEN YOU HAVE KIDS.

3008
01:32:40,389 --> 01:32:41,848
BY THE WAY, HI, KIDS.

3009
01:32:41,890 --> 01:32:43,308
>> Nick: GO TO BED.

3010
01:32:43,350 --> 01:32:45,143
YOU'RE UP TOO LATE.

3011
01:32:45,185 --> 01:32:47,103
GUYS, WE ARE SO GRATEFUL FOR ALL

3012
01:32:47,145 --> 01:32:47,979
OF YOU PARTICIPATING THIS

3013
01:32:48,021 --> 01:32:49,231
EXPERIENCE WE WISH ALL OF YOU

3014
01:32:49,272 --> 01:32:51,233
THE VERY, VERY BEST OF LUCK AND

3015
01:32:51,274 --> 01:32:52,108
WE ARE DEFINITELY LOOKING

3016
01:32:52,150 --> 01:32:54,486
FORWARD TO SEE YOUR LOVE STORIES

3017
01:32:54,528 --> 01:32:56,029
CONTINUE TO UNFOLD AS TIME GOES

3018
01:32:56,071 --> 01:32:56,905
ON.

3019
01:32:56,946 --> 01:32:57,989
>> Vanessa: THANK YOU SO MUCH,

3020
01:32:58,031 --> 01:32:59,782
EVERYONE HERE FOR BEING WITH US,

3021
01:32:59,824 --> 01:33:00,700
INCLUDING OUR AUDIENCE,

3022
01:33:00,742 --> 01:33:03,537
INCLUDING ALL OF YOU AT HOME.

3023
01:33:03,577 --> 01:33:06,498
THANK YOU FOR BEING PATIENT.

3024
01:33:06,540 --> 01:33:08,124
BE APPRECIATED.

3025
01:33:08,166 --> 01:33:12,212
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

3026
01:33:12,254 --> 01:33:12,795
WHOO!

3027
01:33:12,837 --> 01:33:19,802
WE APPRECIATE IT.

3028
01:33:19,844 --> 01:33:22,097
[APPLAUSE]

3029
01:33:22,138 --> 01:33:23,681
>> Nick: THE SEASON MAY BE

3030
01:33:23,723 --> 01:33:24,849
OVER BUT IF YOU WANT MORE LOVE,

3031
01:33:24,891 --> 01:33:26,184
MORE DRAMA AND TEARS, YOU'RE IN

3032
01:33:26,226 --> 01:33:26,851
LUCK.

3033
01:33:26,893 --> 01:33:30,855
FROM THE CREATORS OF

3034
01:33:30,897 --> 01:33:31,565
"LOVE IS BLIND" COMES THE

3035
01:33:31,605 --> 01:33:36,027
ULTIMATUM: QUEER LOVE.

3036
01:33:36,069 --> 01:33:38,696
>> I DON'T WANT TO SAY HER NAME

3037
01:33:38,738 --> 01:33:39,573
ANYMORE.

3038
01:33:39,613 --> 01:33:40,907
>> THE EXPENSE WAS TEN PEOPLE

3039
01:33:40,949 --> 01:33:41,824
COMING HERE MEETING OTHER PEOPLE

3040
01:33:41,866 --> 01:33:42,825
THAT YOU COULD FIND SOMETHING

3041
01:33:42,867 --> 01:33:44,494
WITH.

3042
01:33:44,536 --> 01:33:46,037
WHAT DID YOU COME HERE FOR?

3043
01:33:46,079 --> 01:33:47,997
>> HELLO, EVERYONE.

3044
01:33:48,039 --> 01:33:49,707
YOU ARE ALL HERE BECAUSE SOMEONE

3045
01:33:49,749 --> 01:33:52,502
IN YOUR RELATIONSHIP HAS ISSUED

3046
01:33:52,544 --> 01:33:54,087
AN ULTIMATUM.

3047
01:33:54,129 --> 01:33:55,297
EACH OF YOU ARE COMPATIBLE WITH

3048
01:33:55,338 --> 01:33:57,299
MULTIPLE PEOPLE HERE.

3049
01:33:57,340 --> 01:33:58,467
>> SOMEONE HERE COULD BE A GOOD

3050
01:33:58,508 --> 01:34:00,510
FIT FOR ME.

3051
01:34:00,552 --> 01:34:02,178
>> I'M READY TO SPEND THE REST

3052
01:34:02,220 --> 01:34:03,179
OF MY LIFE WITH SOMEBODY.

3053
01:34:03,221 --> 01:34:05,723
>> I'M NOT READY TO COMMIT TO

3054
01:34:05,765 --> 01:34:06,475
MARRIAGE.

3055
01:34:06,516 --> 01:34:08,017
>> I GAVE AN ULTIMATUM.

3056
01:34:08,059 --> 01:34:09,060
EITHER I LEAVE HERE ENGAGED OR

3057
01:34:09,102 --> 01:34:09,936
WE ARE DONE.

3058
01:34:09,978 --> 01:34:10,604
I WANT TO GET MARRIED TO THIS

3059
01:34:10,644 --> 01:34:11,480
PERSON.

3060
01:34:11,521 --> 01:34:12,772
I WANT TO BRING CHILDREN INTO

3061
01:34:12,814 --> 01:34:14,190
THE WORLD WITH THIS PERSON.

3062
01:34:14,232 --> 01:34:17,902
>> I DON'T WANT PERMANENCY OR

3063
01:34:17,944 --> 01:34:18,736
STABILITY, I WANT FREEDOM.

3064
01:34:18,778 --> 01:34:20,196
>> I WANT TO LIVE WITH YOU FOR

3065
01:34:20,238 --> 01:34:22,449
FIVE YEARS AND THEN I'M OPEN TO

3066
01:34:22,491 --> 01:34:23,283
IT.

3067
01:34:23,325 --> 01:34:25,494
>> I DON'T WANT TO GO INTO A

3068
01:34:25,535 --> 01:34:26,578
MARRIAGE HAVING THESE ISSUES.

3069
01:34:26,620 --> 01:34:29,372
>> IF YOU DON'T LIKE MY DOG, YOU

3070
01:34:29,414 --> 01:34:30,957
CAN GET THE FUCK OUT.

3071
01:34:30,999 --> 01:34:32,375
>> SOMETIMES WHEN YOU DON'T SEE

3072
01:34:32,417 --> 01:34:34,628
WHAT'S RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU.

3073
01:34:34,668 --> 01:34:36,296
>> YOU KNEW WHAT YOU WANTED AND

3074
01:34:36,338 --> 01:34:41,675
NOW YOU DON'T?

3075
01:34:41,717 --> 01:34:43,136
>> YOU SAID YOU WANTED TO MARRY

3076
01:34:43,178 --> 01:34:44,471
ME BUT YOU FELL IN LOVE WITH

3077
01:34:44,513 --> 01:34:47,015
SOMEONE ELSE IN A WEEK AND A

3078
01:34:47,056 --> 01:34:47,890
HALF.

3079
01:34:47,932 --> 01:34:51,853
>> YOU WERE TRYING TO STIR THE

3080
01:34:51,894 --> 01:34:52,686
POT.

3081
01:34:52,728 --> 01:34:54,189
>> WHAT DO YOU WANT FOR ME?

3082
01:34:54,230 --> 01:34:57,317
>> IT'S TOO LATE, ABSOLUTELY TOO

3083
01:34:57,359 --> 01:34:58,193
LATE.

3084
01:34:58,234 --> 01:35:01,279
>> THIS SITUATION IS JUST FUCKED

3085
01:35:01,321 --> 01:35:02,155
UP.

3086
01:35:02,197 --> 01:35:08,578
>> SOMETIMES LOVE IS NOT ENOUGH.