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-["Turn Up the Heat" playing]
<i>-♪ Turn up the heat ♪</i>

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<i>-♪ Turn up the heat ♪
-♪ Ooh-ooh! ♪</i>

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<i>♪ I get it glowing, whenever I'm going ♪</i>

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<i>-♪ Turn up the heat ♪
-♪ Ooh-ooh! ♪</i>

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<i>-♪ Turn up the heat ♪
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Welcome to the <i>Love is Blind</i>
Season 5 Reunion.

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{\an8}-I'm Vanessa Lachey.
-And I'm Nick Lachey.

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{\an8}Well, this season
had more twists and turns

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{\an8}than anyone could have ever predicted.

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Right? We have Uche and Lydia's past.

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Aaliyah leaving the experiment.
Johnie and Chris ending up together.

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Yeah, we had JP
talking his way into an engagement.

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-And then never speaking another word.
-[laughs]

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[Nick] Stacy saying no to Izzy
at the altar and then kissing him.

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Milton actually being able to understand
Lydia's "yes, I do" at the altar.

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It was all an incredible part
of a great season.

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And tonight, we will be catching up
with all of our favorites

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from across the entire season.

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We can't wait to hear who dated who
after filming ended.

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[Nick] Hold on a second.
You guys were making out,

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and you were actually
at the same bar at the same time?

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But first, we wanna say hello
to the couples

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who made it all the way to the altar.

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{\an8}Izzy, Stacy.

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{\an8}Milton, Lydia.

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{\an8}-Hi. Hi, guys.
-[Vanessa] Hello.

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Feel it? Everybody feeling good?

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-We're relaxed? We're ready?
-Yeah.

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-Relaxed, I'm not sure. Ready, yes.
-[laughing]

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-[Izzy] I'm ready. I'm fine.
-[laughing]

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You guys look fantastic. You look
like you're very much still together,

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but just to confirm,
you are still married, correct?

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-Yes, we are happily married.
-[Nick] Okay. All right.

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-Good, good, good.
-Love that for you guys.

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[Nick] Well, guys, we truly loved
watching you fall in love.

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How has married life been?

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{\an8}I think in the past, before I met Lydia,
before I was married,

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I would typically stay at work too late.

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Like, now 5:30 hits, I'm like,
"Hey, I gotta get home to my wife."

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-[Stacy] Aww.
-Love it.

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{\an8}[Stacy] She loves that.

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{\an8}It's just two years ago,

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{\an8}I could have never imagined
feeling this way,

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being this way, and it's beautiful.

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You're setting the bar pretty high
for the rest of us.

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That's sweet.

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-[Nick] That's really, really well said.
-My dad's been helping me out a bit.

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[Nick] He's doing a good job. Well done.

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Well, speaking of that, has your family
embraced the idea of you two together

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and as a married couple?

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[Milton] Lydia, you wanna answer?

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-[laughing]
-Yes, of course. Um, I...

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Since you're so close with my mom now.
A little too close.

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-[Nick] Uh-oh.
-I'm getting pushed out.

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It got to a point where,

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I call Mom when I am like,
"Your son is aggravating me."

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-[laughing]
-"I need someone to vent."

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And she's like, "Let's go grab dinner,
sweetie. Let's go grab dinner."

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His dad will be like,
snitch on his mom and be like,

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"Oh, yeah, she was with Lydia."

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-Yeah, they've all turned against me.
-He was like "What? What?"

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They're all Team Lydia now.
I'm like, "I'm your son."

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[laughing]

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-[Nick] That's what you want.
-No, it's amazing.

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It's the perfect thing.
So you're cool with it, I'm assuming?

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Yes, yes, I love them dearly.
Like, they are the best.

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[Milton] Having Lydia
as part of our family now

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has made my parents so, like...

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Me and my sisters joke around.

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-Lydia's made my parents so... so soft.
-[laughing]

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So, so different from

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what we grew up with,
where sometimes we're like,

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you know, my mom's like,
"Hey, just wanted to call you."

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"I love you so much and, you know,
so proud of you." You're like...

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"Mom, you're the one that pushes me
to do harder, to do more."

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Their relationship has improved,
like, a thousand percent.

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I love that.

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Can I say something?

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Your passion and your love of life
is so contagious that it's hard to ignore.

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I can understand why you've endeared
yourself so much to his family.

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-It's amazing.
-Yes, yes. I love them dearly.

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Like, it's just amazing.

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But has your cleaning...

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-[sighs]
-[laughing]

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[Vanessa] ...passed over to Milton yet?

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-Milton, how are the household chores?
-Whoa, man, it's hot in here.

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-[Lydia] Um...
-[Nick laughs]

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-Baby, come on.
-You know.

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Come on. Come on.

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-I do the dishes on occasion.
-[laughing]

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-He has done the dishes three times.
-What about the towels?

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-Oh, my God.
-Three times.

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I do always put up my towel.

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-Okay, he has improved in that.
-[all laughing]

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-A round of applause. He has.
-Give it up for Milton.

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[Lydia] Towels up.
He always put the towels.

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This is probably
a tough question to answer,

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but what's the best thing
about being married?

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-Oh. The cleaning.
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-[Lydia] Excuse me.
-Wait a minute.

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It's his favorite.

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It was so funny, 'cause I kept saying,
like, "I'm not gonna be..."

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"I'm not babying you.
Like, I'm not gonna mother you."

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"Like, you need to pick up for yourself."
And here I am.

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Um, having someone
who has your back regardless of...

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Oh, maybe you had a disagreement
in the morning and something happened.

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And no. Like, no.

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My wife comes first and having
that person that has your back

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unconditionally is amazing,
and it's the best feeling ever.

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And I am so blessed.

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Well, I love that you're still
in this wedding bliss,

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because I don't know if many people know.

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-It's been a year and a half, almost.
-Yes, that long.

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Everyone take a look back
at the past year of Milton and Lydia.

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-[pop music playing]
-Ah, wait! [chuckles]

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Milton brought me new flowers.

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Oh, my God.

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I'm just so happy. He is amazing.

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I'm so in love with him.

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We got this view.

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He surpasses my expectations,

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and I am just so in love.

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I love you more.

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<i>♪ Happy birthday to you</i> ♪

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-Look how happy he is.
-It's an Xbox S!

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[laughing on screen]

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[laughs] I'm still recording.

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Turn it off.

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Puerto Rico. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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-Are you excited?
-Yes.

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{\an8}-[Lydia's mom] I'm so happy.
-[Lydia] There she is.

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<i>♪ Happy wedding to you</i> ♪

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[laughing]

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[indistinct chattering]

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[laughing continues]

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-[pop music playing]
-<i>♪ Let's show, let's show the world ♪</i>

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-[cheering]
-Look at those two.

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-Look at those two.
-I love it.

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So you guys had
another wedding celebration.

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-Yes, we did. In Puerto Rico.
-In Puerto Rico.

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-We got you a little belated wedding gift.
-Thank you!

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[Nick] We must have missed
our invite in the mail.

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-[laughs]
-[Lydia] Oh, my God, this is gorgeous!

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[Nick] Agate represents stability.

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-Yes.
-[Nick] And amethyst represents peace.

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Which we hope both of those things
for you two going forward.

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-So a little something from us.
-This is amazing. Amazing.

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-Thank you so much.
-[Nick] Absolutely.

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Any plans for the immediate future
you could share with us today?

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I am actually
an amazing long-term planner.

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[Vanessa] Ooh! So what long-term plans
do you have for you and Lydia?

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-You should look at our 401(k).
-[all laughing]

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[Milton] Amazing.

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-Well, speaking of financial planning...
-[all laughing]

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-[Lydia] Oh!
-[all laughing]

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Izzy and Stacy over here.

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{\an8}-[Izzy] Good to see y'all.
-What's up, guys?

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{\an8}-[Vanessa] Good to see you.
-Many things.

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{\an8}-[Vanessa] Many?
-[Stacy] Mm-hmm.

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{\an8}Well, there's really no doubt
the two of you had chemistry,

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and I have to say,
your wedding ceremony had a first

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that I don't think has ever happened
at a wedding ever

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{\an8}in the history of weddings.

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{\an8}Izzy said yes. Stacy, you said no.

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But then you guys kissed.

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-Let's take a look back.
-[laughing]

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[Nick] We have the tape, I think.

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Izzy, do you take Stacy as your wife?

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Do you promise to love her,
comfort her, honor and keep her

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as long as you both will live?

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I do.

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[minister] And, Stacy.

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Do you take Izzy to be your husband?

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I love you more than I can even explain.

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I wanna make you happy.

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I wanna give you that reassurance.

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And I do want you, and I wanna say yes,

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but I would be doing you and I
a disservice right now

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to say that I do when I feel like
there's a lot of things that we need.

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And more than anything, we need time.
So for me today, I can't.

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[shudders] I hope you understand that.

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I understand.

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And I love you.

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[crowd applauding]

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-Oh, man.
-I can feel it from you guys over here.

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-What are you feeling right now, Stacy?
-Oh, God, a lot of emotions.

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I mean, it was heartbreaking and like...

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I love you, baby girl.

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You all right?

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[voice breaks] I wanted to give him a yes.

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In my gut, I just...
I didn't feel like we were ready.

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So it's, like,
when you care about someone like that,

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you don't wanna hurt them.

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You wanna make them happy, and I felt
the way to make him happy was to say yes.

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And at the same time, like,
how do I do what's right for me?

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And in that moment,
it didn't feel like it was coinciding.

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Let me ask you, Izzy,
'cause finances are a big consideration

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when you're taking two lives
and joining them together.

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And I think you mentioned
you were waiting for the kind of a chance

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for you two to be alone together
to talk about finances.

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And it seemed like you were almost
waiting for a perfect moment to do it.

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But I'm just curious,
why did you wait so long

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to confront that issue between you two?

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I mean, you had to have had some
opportunity in the time you were together

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to broach that subject.

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I didn't think it was gonna be that huge

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because obviously,
with people in the pods before,

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they knew that about me.

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Why didn't you tell me about that?

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Because we never had
that conversation in the pods.

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Like, we talked finances in depth
and anything like that and...

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We did talk about finances. I was like,
"Is there anything I need to know?"

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"Do you have any debt?"
You're like, "Nope, we're good."

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Like, no student loans. Nothing.

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Yeah, everything was paid off.
I just had bad credit. Like, that was it.

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Like, I didn't owe any money anywhere
or anything.

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Do you think there was a part of you,

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the pressure, that made you,

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I'm just guessing,
like, embarrassed to say

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because you saw a life
she was accustomed to?

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Yeah. No, absolutely.

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Um, I think anybody, you know, with

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a bad credit score is not
something you would wanna admit, right?

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Just seeing from the background,

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you know, her and her family came from

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and how hard they worked
and, like, now the lives they have.

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I'm not used to that.

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I didn't come from that, and so, like,

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I'm working to get where I,
you know, wanna be.

230
00:10:38,429 --> 00:10:42,559
Um, but, yeah. But I mean,
it wasn't the whole thing, you know.

231
00:10:42,642 --> 00:10:45,854
I'm not gonna say, like, I kept it so long
just because I was scared.

232
00:10:45,937 --> 00:10:48,523
I just also just felt like
there wasn't the right time,

233
00:10:48,606 --> 00:10:50,567
but when is the right time, right?
You know?

234
00:10:51,651 --> 00:10:55,196
Izzy, what happened after
your wedding day?

235
00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,031
Did you guys date after that?

236
00:10:57,115 --> 00:10:58,283
[Stacy] Mnh-mnh.

237
00:10:58,366 --> 00:10:59,617
We, um...

238
00:11:01,703 --> 00:11:03,872
[laughs] I...

239
00:11:04,956 --> 00:11:08,459
We, um, so after that... [hesitates]

240
00:11:09,586 --> 00:11:10,587
-Do you want me to...
-Yes.

241
00:11:10,670 --> 00:11:12,964
Oh, I'll lead.
Okay, I can tell you're like...

242
00:11:13,047 --> 00:11:15,592
[speaks gibberish]
"So many things in my head."

243
00:11:15,675 --> 00:11:18,219
At first, we just agreed
to take some time for ourselves.

244
00:11:18,303 --> 00:11:19,262
Like, let's not talk.

245
00:11:19,345 --> 00:11:23,099
Let's not see each other, just take time
for yourself, whatever that entails,

246
00:11:23,183 --> 00:11:25,185
and we'll meet up at some point to chat.

247
00:11:25,268 --> 00:11:28,521
And we did. It was probably
a week or two after that.

248
00:11:28,605 --> 00:11:31,357
It was a week.
And it was a really hard week for me.

249
00:11:32,233 --> 00:11:35,820
Because when someone's my person
and I'm going through such a hard time,

250
00:11:35,904 --> 00:11:38,781
I can understand
that I needed those couple of days.

251
00:11:38,865 --> 00:11:41,451
But there's after,
like, day three or four where it's like,

252
00:11:41,534 --> 00:11:44,204
"All right, I miss you. I need you.
Like, where are you?"

253
00:11:44,287 --> 00:11:46,122
And I didn't know what was happening.

254
00:11:46,206 --> 00:11:48,374
I didn't know
if you were still my fiancée.

255
00:11:48,458 --> 00:11:50,043
I didn't know if you were my girlfriend.

256
00:11:50,126 --> 00:11:51,961
I didn't even know
where anything was going.

257
00:11:52,045 --> 00:11:54,964
So not knowing was really tough.

258
00:11:55,465 --> 00:11:58,343
We met on that Friday,
and we went out on a date,

259
00:11:58,426 --> 00:12:00,637
and we talked at her place.

260
00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:04,641
And something just in my gut
just knew something was off.

261
00:12:04,724 --> 00:12:05,725
And I just asked,

262
00:12:05,808 --> 00:12:09,062
I was like, "Are you even feeling this?"

263
00:12:09,145 --> 00:12:13,399
And she just said, like, she didn't,
and she couldn't right now.

264
00:12:13,483 --> 00:12:16,778
And I was just...
I, in that moment, was shocked.

265
00:12:17,862 --> 00:12:20,657
Um, and I think
why I was so hurt by everything...

266
00:12:20,740 --> 00:12:24,619
I mean, I was so mad at her after that,

267
00:12:25,411 --> 00:12:29,499
um, because I thought we were
really gonna try, and...

268
00:12:30,458 --> 00:12:33,002
And yeah, and I was so upset,
I just walked out.

269
00:12:33,086 --> 00:12:35,630
-And I didn't talk to you for a year.
-Mm-hmm.

270
00:12:35,713 --> 00:12:38,216
-[Vanessa] For a year.
-[Stacy] Like, it was too much.

271
00:12:38,299 --> 00:12:39,175
It was way too much.

272
00:12:39,259 --> 00:12:42,011
And it's like, the cameras are gone.
Let's be real about this right now.

273
00:12:42,095 --> 00:12:43,930
Like, do we need to start over,

274
00:12:44,013 --> 00:12:47,100
and I feel like...
I felt like we needed to start over.

275
00:12:47,183 --> 00:12:49,060
And I feel like you were just like,

276
00:12:49,143 --> 00:12:53,481
"If we're starting over going backwards,
I don't wanna do it" kind of a thing.

277
00:12:53,564 --> 00:12:57,026
So a year goes by,
and then you guys reach out again.

278
00:12:57,110 --> 00:12:58,736
-No.
-[laughs]

279
00:12:58,820 --> 00:13:00,571
-We ran into each other.
-It gets good.

280
00:13:00,655 --> 00:13:03,825
-We ran into each other... oh, God.
-[Vanessa] Okay, we'll get to that.

281
00:13:03,908 --> 00:13:05,785
-[laughing]
-[Vanessa] Don't. That's a juicy one.

282
00:13:05,868 --> 00:13:08,371
-[Nick laughs]
-Um, so today.

283
00:13:08,997 --> 00:13:11,291
Right now, are you guys together?

284
00:13:11,374 --> 00:13:12,625
-[both] No.
-[Vanessa] Okay.

285
00:13:12,709 --> 00:13:16,546
Izzy could have ended up
engaged to Johnie,

286
00:13:17,255 --> 00:13:21,009
but the last time we saw her,
she was actually dating Chris.

287
00:13:21,092 --> 00:13:23,636
So, I know we have a lot of questions
for these two,

288
00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,389
so we're bringing out Johnie and Chris.

289
00:13:26,472 --> 00:13:28,683
[pop music playing]

290
00:13:30,435 --> 00:13:32,145
-Hi.
-Hi.

291
00:13:32,228 --> 00:13:33,646
-[Vanessa] Welcome.
-[Chris] Hello.

292
00:13:34,230 --> 00:13:35,148
What's up, y'all?

293
00:13:35,231 --> 00:13:37,942
-[chattering]
-You guys look very nice.

294
00:13:38,026 --> 00:13:39,235
[Milton] Welcome, guys.

295
00:13:40,069 --> 00:13:41,446
All right, well, guys,

296
00:13:41,529 --> 00:13:45,742
first things first, we need to establish
are you two still together?

297
00:13:45,825 --> 00:13:48,828
-Uh...
-[laughing]

298
00:13:48,911 --> 00:13:50,663
[Chris] With that reaction, obviously not.

299
00:13:50,747 --> 00:13:53,249
{\an8}-[Nick] Okay.
-Doesn't always end in a fairy tale,

300
00:13:53,333 --> 00:13:59,172
{\an8}and it just didn't work out
the way one would want.

301
00:13:59,255 --> 00:14:00,089
Johnny.

302
00:14:00,173 --> 00:14:03,676
What happened after the party in Houston?

303
00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,637
That weekend was my birthday weekend,

304
00:14:06,721 --> 00:14:11,642
um, and Chris had a wedding out of state,
so he left the state.

305
00:14:11,726 --> 00:14:14,604
And I didn't see him, and then

306
00:14:15,396 --> 00:14:17,857
the next week I didn't see him,

307
00:14:17,940 --> 00:14:19,400
and then...

308
00:14:22,111 --> 00:14:24,197
{\an8}I found out the following weekend

309
00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,824
{\an8}that Chris was seeing someone else.

310
00:14:27,492 --> 00:14:28,368
Um...

311
00:14:30,286 --> 00:14:32,413
And yeah, I never saw him again.

312
00:14:32,497 --> 00:14:34,165
You're saying he started
seeing someone else

313
00:14:34,248 --> 00:14:36,209
without breaking things off with you?

314
00:14:36,292 --> 00:14:37,543
Is that what you're saying?

315
00:14:38,211 --> 00:14:41,130
You're nodding, Chris. Do you agree
that that's how it went down?

316
00:14:41,214 --> 00:14:44,759
That is how it went down, and I didn't

317
00:14:44,842 --> 00:14:48,388
handle the situation
as someone would properly.

318
00:14:49,222 --> 00:14:52,809
But I did find someone
who I now live with, and I love,

319
00:14:52,892 --> 00:14:55,019
and we're very happy together and...

320
00:14:56,896 --> 00:15:00,400
I'm sorry if that hurts to hear,
but I... you know.

321
00:15:01,234 --> 00:15:03,945
The whole experiment is to find yourself

322
00:15:04,028 --> 00:15:07,824
and then find someone
who accepts you for who you are.

323
00:15:07,907 --> 00:15:10,618
And that's what I found and so,

324
00:15:11,411 --> 00:15:13,287
I wouldn't change that for anything.

325
00:15:14,330 --> 00:15:15,540
So in that process,

326
00:15:15,623 --> 00:15:19,210
did you feel
at any point you should let Johnie know

327
00:15:19,293 --> 00:15:20,795
before she found out?

328
00:15:21,712 --> 00:15:24,757
I guess I'm trying to put the pieces
together, 'cause that party in Houston,

329
00:15:24,841 --> 00:15:26,592
you were all in for her. You had her back.

330
00:15:26,676 --> 00:15:29,762
And then to leave and then just find
the person you're living with now,

331
00:15:29,846 --> 00:15:31,556
it's like, where was the...

332
00:15:31,639 --> 00:15:33,683
Yeah, you were vigorously
defending her at that party.

333
00:15:33,766 --> 00:15:36,644
-It was kind of admirable, you know?
-[Chris] Yeah. Well...

334
00:15:37,645 --> 00:15:38,646
Thank you for that.

335
00:15:38,729 --> 00:15:41,399
I'm always gonna defend
the people that I love, and...

336
00:15:42,608 --> 00:15:46,404
I loved you and, you know,

337
00:15:47,572 --> 00:15:49,115
that doesn't change

338
00:15:49,198 --> 00:15:51,492
who I love now and who I'm with now. But...

339
00:15:53,411 --> 00:15:56,664
We were trying to work things through,
and it was a lot of stress for me.

340
00:15:56,747 --> 00:15:59,125
-And we went opposite ways.
-[chuckles]

341
00:15:59,208 --> 00:16:01,502
Well, I think you went
an opposite way, and then...

342
00:16:01,586 --> 00:16:04,172
-[laughing]
-[Chris] Well, ultimately we, after I did.

343
00:16:04,255 --> 00:16:05,631
-Yeah.
-[Chris] I guess.

344
00:16:05,715 --> 00:16:06,632
[laughing]

345
00:16:06,716 --> 00:16:09,010
[Vanessa] By the way, Chris,
you were, like, the nicest man.

346
00:16:09,093 --> 00:16:10,928
I wanted to come through the screen
and hug you,

347
00:16:11,012 --> 00:16:15,391
but I'm just wanting
to understand after the party.

348
00:16:15,475 --> 00:16:17,935
Like Nick said,
you were vigorously defending her.

349
00:16:18,019 --> 00:16:20,480
Everyone was rooting.
Like, "Oh, my gosh, he's got her back."

350
00:16:20,563 --> 00:16:23,316
And you just said,
"I will always defend those I love,"

351
00:16:23,399 --> 00:16:26,402
but if I may,
would you cheat on those you love?

352
00:16:27,987 --> 00:16:28,946
Apparently yes.

353
00:16:29,030 --> 00:16:32,241
Um... it's terrible.

354
00:16:32,325 --> 00:16:33,576
I know I was wrong.

355
00:16:33,659 --> 00:16:37,914
I mean, I felt... guilty and heartbroken,

356
00:16:37,997 --> 00:16:40,875
and as many emotions as I could,

357
00:16:40,958 --> 00:16:43,503
'cause I did fall in love with you.

358
00:16:44,337 --> 00:16:45,671
And I still care for you.

359
00:16:46,380 --> 00:16:48,508
It's a terrible, terrible thing to do.

360
00:16:49,342 --> 00:16:53,721
And it's probably one
of my biggest regrets

361
00:16:53,804 --> 00:16:56,641
is not being forthcoming with you.

362
00:16:57,683 --> 00:17:00,811
I've apologized before,
and I continuously apologize.

363
00:17:00,895 --> 00:17:02,021
Yeah, he's apologized.

364
00:17:02,104 --> 00:17:04,398
Johnie, how did you find out
that this was even happening?

365
00:17:04,482 --> 00:17:07,568
My friend saw him with the other girl.

366
00:17:07,652 --> 00:17:09,028
And told me.

367
00:17:09,612 --> 00:17:11,656
I think I blamed myself still a little.

368
00:17:15,826 --> 00:17:18,621
It was my fault.
You don't need to... it's not you.

369
00:17:19,413 --> 00:17:21,832
She really, as she just said, like...

370
00:17:23,376 --> 00:17:24,252
[sniffles]

371
00:17:24,335 --> 00:17:26,295
[Chris] My biggest...

372
00:17:26,379 --> 00:17:29,549
one of my biggest faults
that I continuously try to work through

373
00:17:29,632 --> 00:17:32,969
is telling people news
they don't wanna hear.

374
00:17:33,719 --> 00:17:36,055
-[Johnie sobs]
-[Chris] And it sounds good.

375
00:17:36,138 --> 00:17:40,935
Like, I don't wanna say bad things
to somebody, but it doesn't work.

376
00:17:41,018 --> 00:17:43,813
-It's not a good trait to have.
-[Johnie] Yeah.

377
00:17:43,896 --> 00:17:47,066
And I continuously,
to this day, try to work through that.

378
00:17:47,149 --> 00:17:48,359
Yeah.

379
00:17:48,442 --> 00:17:50,736
Yeah, I think he didn't wanna hurt me,
so he thought he was...

380
00:17:52,530 --> 00:17:54,991
I don't know.
Maybe gonna ease his way out. [laughs]

381
00:17:55,074 --> 00:17:58,202
There was no plan.
It was just I love this girl.

382
00:17:58,286 --> 00:18:00,288
And, you know.

383
00:18:00,371 --> 00:18:01,622
Yeah. [sniffles]

384
00:18:01,706 --> 00:18:03,791
Why were you blaming yourself, Johnie?

385
00:18:05,001 --> 00:18:08,588
Because I wish I had
seen the process through.

386
00:18:08,671 --> 00:18:11,424
I didn't have to end things
with Chris in the pods.

387
00:18:12,008 --> 00:18:13,634
I could have just

388
00:18:13,718 --> 00:18:18,556
finished the process and kept dating
both men, but I do know

389
00:18:18,639 --> 00:18:22,768
I take accountability
for not putting him first originally.

390
00:18:22,852 --> 00:18:27,148
Um, I do know he was really hurt
by the whole experiment.

391
00:18:27,815 --> 00:18:32,153
And yeah, I think we both have found
our people now and are happy.

392
00:18:32,236 --> 00:18:34,113
So you are now seeing someone, Johnie?

393
00:18:34,196 --> 00:18:37,366
Yeah. We've been dating
for about a year now.

394
00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,870
I didn't realize
that there was so much tension

395
00:18:40,953 --> 00:18:42,955
in the pods between Stacy and Johnie

396
00:18:43,039 --> 00:18:44,957
until I saw your interactions
at the party.

397
00:18:45,041 --> 00:18:46,751
What happened between the two of you?

398
00:18:46,834 --> 00:18:48,461
What was that all about that night?

399
00:18:49,128 --> 00:18:51,505
I kept to myself during the experiment,

400
00:18:51,589 --> 00:18:54,258
and I felt like
that was what was best for me,

401
00:18:54,342 --> 00:18:56,927
and I'm very close with most of the girls.

402
00:18:57,011 --> 00:18:59,555
So they were telling me
what she was saying about me.

403
00:18:59,639 --> 00:19:01,432
And in my head, I didn't care.

404
00:19:01,515 --> 00:19:03,434
I'm like, "I'm never
gonna see this girl again."

405
00:19:03,517 --> 00:19:06,228
"I don't care what she thinks about me.
I don't need to address it."

406
00:19:06,312 --> 00:19:07,229
And unfortunately,

407
00:19:07,313 --> 00:19:10,399
we had to be in positions
where we're all together again,

408
00:19:10,483 --> 00:19:15,112
and then it's just like the chiming in
and the looks that...

409
00:19:16,113 --> 00:19:18,866
I'm a Coke bottle. You wanna shake it.
Like, let's pop the top.

410
00:19:18,949 --> 00:19:22,536
Like, if you wanna go there,
I feel like you brought that upon yourself

411
00:19:22,620 --> 00:19:26,332
by gossiping about me.

412
00:19:26,415 --> 00:19:28,584
[Vanessa] What did she gossip about?
What was she saying?

413
00:19:28,668 --> 00:19:30,419
What did the girls say she was saying?

414
00:19:30,503 --> 00:19:34,340
If he chooses her,
he's gonna have bigger problems than that,

415
00:19:34,965 --> 00:19:40,513
um, but I was a safe choice,
which is very interesting. Um...

416
00:19:41,806 --> 00:19:46,018
That I couldn't make him happy
and it didn't bother me.

417
00:19:46,102 --> 00:19:49,939
But I mean, the people that she thought
were her friends were my friends

418
00:19:50,022 --> 00:19:53,275
and letting me know what's going on.
So, my thing is, like,

419
00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,111
I have nothing to say to you

420
00:19:55,194 --> 00:19:57,571
unless you come at me,

421
00:19:57,655 --> 00:20:01,325
and I'm gonna let you know how I feel.
And I did. And that's what it was.

422
00:20:01,409 --> 00:20:03,369
I don't think
we're each other's cup of tea.

423
00:20:03,452 --> 00:20:04,870
And that's fine.

424
00:20:04,954 --> 00:20:07,581
We're stuck in an environment
where we have to be around each other.

425
00:20:07,665 --> 00:20:12,545
So emotions are high,
and that was what happened.

426
00:20:12,628 --> 00:20:14,880
Sorry, I just heard you guys
chatting over there.

427
00:20:15,548 --> 00:20:17,675
Is there something you wanna share, Chris?

428
00:20:17,758 --> 00:20:18,759
No.

429
00:20:18,843 --> 00:20:20,886
-Just catching up.
-[Vanessa] While Stacy was talking.

430
00:20:20,970 --> 00:20:23,139
-Just old friends. [laughs]
-Catching up. [laughs]

431
00:20:23,222 --> 00:20:25,349
[Nick] And, Johnie,
was that your recollection too?

432
00:20:25,433 --> 00:20:27,268
-Everything she's saying?
-[Vanessa] I'm sorry.

433
00:20:27,351 --> 00:20:29,729
While she was talking to Johnie,

434
00:20:29,812 --> 00:20:32,523
they're having... I'm just trying
to understand this dynamic.

435
00:20:32,606 --> 00:20:35,276
[Johnie] Um, I mean, I don't...

436
00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,154
some of the things
she said I agree with, I guess.

437
00:20:38,237 --> 00:20:41,907
Um, she wasn't forthcoming
in the lounge area.

438
00:20:41,991 --> 00:20:44,243
And I was sharing a lot with her
without knowing

439
00:20:44,326 --> 00:20:46,495
that her and Izzy
had such a strong connection.

440
00:20:46,579 --> 00:20:50,458
-So I felt deceived in those moments.
-Mm. That's not true.

441
00:20:50,541 --> 00:20:53,419
Um, I do think some of the comments I made

442
00:20:53,502 --> 00:20:56,380
were kind of petty
once Izzy ended things with me.

443
00:20:56,464 --> 00:21:00,926
But my point was
I didn't think they were compatible.

444
00:21:01,010 --> 00:21:05,389
Um, I could have said that definitely
in a more calm and logical way.

445
00:21:05,973 --> 00:21:10,186
Um, that said, I don't think I was
antagonizing anyone at the barbecue.

446
00:21:10,269 --> 00:21:11,729
I don't think I was coming for her.

447
00:21:11,812 --> 00:21:14,482
She kept asking me
what was wrong with my face.

448
00:21:14,565 --> 00:21:17,109
You came and sat right next to me,
and you're like,

449
00:21:17,193 --> 00:21:19,904
"They're telling lies,"
and I didn't open my mouth at all.

450
00:21:19,987 --> 00:21:22,615
You came straight up
into our conversation,

451
00:21:22,698 --> 00:21:24,366
inserted yourself in the conversation,

452
00:21:24,450 --> 00:21:27,036
sat down, you're like,
"Don't believe what they're saying."

453
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,206
When I hadn't said a single thing,
and then you said, "You're deceitful."

454
00:21:30,289 --> 00:21:34,627
Why are you coming to talk
to my boyfriend and tell him not...

455
00:21:34,710 --> 00:21:38,380
[Izzy] She wasn't talking to him.
Me and Chris were having a conversation.

456
00:21:38,464 --> 00:21:41,926
And your dude asked me a question,
which I didn't even answer.

457
00:21:42,009 --> 00:21:44,720
[Johnie] I was sitting outside,
and Maris goes,

458
00:21:44,804 --> 00:21:46,889
"Look at your boyfriend right now,"
and I look inside

459
00:21:46,972 --> 00:21:49,225
and I see Izzy on one side
and Stacy on the other.

460
00:21:49,308 --> 00:21:52,978
And I just had a disagreement with Izzy,
and I'm like, "This doesn't look good."

461
00:21:53,062 --> 00:21:56,023
I'm gonna go be there for my man,
and I don't think me walking up

462
00:21:56,106 --> 00:22:00,319
and trying to be there
for the guy I'm dating has any issue.

463
00:22:00,402 --> 00:22:02,571
And y'all were saying things about me.

464
00:22:02,655 --> 00:22:05,574
[Izzy] Stacy wasn't saying anything
about you to Chris.

465
00:22:05,658 --> 00:22:07,493
That was a conversation
between Chris and I.

466
00:22:07,576 --> 00:22:10,412
-[Johnie] Until Stacy inserted herself.
-Stacy was just standing there.

467
00:22:10,496 --> 00:22:13,457
I was going to sit by my fiancé
'cause I was trying to get away from you.

468
00:22:13,541 --> 00:22:15,793
Okay, we have different perspectives
on the situation.

469
00:22:15,876 --> 00:22:17,711
I mean,
you were physically outside where I was.

470
00:22:17,795 --> 00:22:20,548
I wanted to get out of that environment
and be by my fiancé.

471
00:22:20,631 --> 00:22:23,551
He was with your boyfriend
and talking to him. You came in...

472
00:22:23,634 --> 00:22:25,427
I came to be by my boyfriend. So what?

473
00:22:25,511 --> 00:22:28,264
[Stacy] That is what happened.
We can go round and round.

474
00:22:28,347 --> 00:22:30,975
[Vanessa] We can go round and round,
but what we do have is tape.

475
00:22:31,642 --> 00:22:33,227
So let's take a look at this clip.

476
00:22:35,938 --> 00:22:37,356
I hope you guys work out.

477
00:22:37,439 --> 00:22:42,069
Honestly, I'm calling her out on her shit
because you remind me of me.

478
00:22:42,152 --> 00:22:43,487
We have good hearts.

479
00:22:43,571 --> 00:22:45,990
People could take advantage of us
very easily.

480
00:22:46,073 --> 00:22:47,199
[Stacy] Like who?

481
00:22:47,283 --> 00:22:49,159
-Johnie.
-[Stacy] Oh, God.

482
00:22:49,243 --> 00:22:50,077
No. [laughs]

483
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,746
That's why I called her out on her shit,
because it's just like,

484
00:22:52,830 --> 00:22:55,875
you were a good friend to me.
She's telling us all the same shit.

485
00:22:55,958 --> 00:22:57,126
I promise you, I never...

486
00:22:57,209 --> 00:22:59,044
But to me, if I was trying to say like...

487
00:22:59,128 --> 00:23:01,130
I'm sorry. I didn't know
I was walking into this.

488
00:23:01,213 --> 00:23:03,841
-I thought I was getting out of the drama.
-It's...

489
00:23:03,924 --> 00:23:06,385
Stacy can give you
the girls' perspective side.

490
00:23:06,468 --> 00:23:09,763
For me, like, if I was trying to get
with you, I would go to Izzy.

491
00:23:09,847 --> 00:23:12,641
Is this good?
'Cause I just see, like, hands waving.

492
00:23:12,725 --> 00:23:15,144
We're just trying to understand...
you know what I'm saying?

493
00:23:15,227 --> 00:23:19,356
No, they're trying to convince you
of a story that probably didn't happen.

494
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,192
-I don't know why y'all are...
-[Stacy] He asked. So ask him.

495
00:23:24,153 --> 00:23:26,530
We were there in the pods
to know that you're full of shit.

496
00:23:26,614 --> 00:23:29,199
So it coincides with the real world
that you're still full of shit.

497
00:23:29,283 --> 00:23:30,910
Y'all's stories are conflicting.

498
00:23:30,993 --> 00:23:33,746
Yeah, it's surprising to get
a hold of your real personality.

499
00:23:33,829 --> 00:23:36,290
I have always been the same person.

500
00:23:36,373 --> 00:23:40,210
And I shed tears for you knowing that
you were gonna get rejected.

501
00:23:40,794 --> 00:23:42,630
-Okay.
-[Stacy] I had empathy for you.

502
00:23:42,713 --> 00:23:46,300
And that's why I'm so fired up
is because you're a shit person.

503
00:23:46,383 --> 00:23:49,178
And I feel bad for shedding
a damn tear for you.

504
00:23:49,261 --> 00:23:51,680
-[Johnie] That's not true.
-One, she's not a shitty person.

505
00:23:51,764 --> 00:23:54,350
The proof's in the pudding.
No one has ill intentions.

506
00:23:54,433 --> 00:23:56,018
It's just calling shit for shit.

507
00:23:56,101 --> 00:23:58,228
-We're just calling you out.
-"I'm a straight shooter."

508
00:23:58,312 --> 00:23:59,313
"That's all I stand for."

509
00:23:59,396 --> 00:24:02,816
{\an8}I got your back any time.
This is not between us. We're good.

510
00:24:02,900 --> 00:24:06,111
-I'm looking out for you. You're amazing.
-We're good. All four of us are not good.

511
00:24:06,195 --> 00:24:07,655
That sums it up.

512
00:24:07,738 --> 00:24:10,866
I wanna apologize to you,
because my delivery was horrible.

513
00:24:10,950 --> 00:24:12,326
That is not me.

514
00:24:12,409 --> 00:24:15,454
That was way out of character.
I was an asshole.

515
00:24:16,246 --> 00:24:20,501
And I apologize for that, but I do
not apologize for saying the truth.

516
00:24:20,584 --> 00:24:23,837
My delivery just could've been
a lot better, and I'm so sorry for that.

517
00:24:24,505 --> 00:24:27,716
Okay, um, I mean, I just...

518
00:24:29,051 --> 00:24:31,387
If that was your truth, that was fine.

519
00:24:32,388 --> 00:24:36,433
I will say Izzy has apologized in person.

520
00:24:36,517 --> 00:24:37,893
-Um, a year ago.
-[Izzy] Yeah.

521
00:24:37,977 --> 00:24:43,732
He knew the way
that he acted that night was not the best.

522
00:24:43,816 --> 00:24:48,028
Um, so I do commend you for apologizing.

523
00:24:48,112 --> 00:24:50,364
Um, other people have not apologized.

524
00:24:50,447 --> 00:24:54,284
[Nick] You mentioned the very strong
attraction that you and Izzy had.

525
00:24:54,368 --> 00:24:57,454
And I think everyone kind of
wants to know, did the two of you

526
00:24:58,330 --> 00:25:01,041
ever reconnect after all of this?

527
00:25:01,125 --> 00:25:04,169
Yeah, a week or less
after me and Stacy didn't work out,

528
00:25:04,253 --> 00:25:06,380
we ended up being at the same bar.

529
00:25:06,964 --> 00:25:09,717
A bunch of the cast was out,
and so I saw her,

530
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:14,054
and we sat there and talked for,
like, an hour and tried to see if we can...

531
00:25:14,638 --> 00:25:17,808
If there was anything there to
kind of give it a shot, but I think, um,

532
00:25:18,392 --> 00:25:21,937
I obviously was just in no position
to be dating, wasn't over Stacy,

533
00:25:22,021 --> 00:25:26,525
and it was too soon for her
for how I had treated her then.

534
00:25:26,608 --> 00:25:30,029
And obviously, we saw
we were just not each other's person.

535
00:25:30,654 --> 00:25:33,824
And we stayed friends after that.
We were cordial.

536
00:25:33,907 --> 00:25:37,453
Yeah. So you said you guys tried
to see if there was anything still left.

537
00:25:38,078 --> 00:25:40,622
-That was just we hung out at the bar.
-[Izzy] Very short-lived.

538
00:25:40,706 --> 00:25:43,751
Like, we ran into each other at the bar.

539
00:25:43,834 --> 00:25:47,254
He came out to a bar, like, once.
We tried to kind of hang out,

540
00:25:47,337 --> 00:25:49,798
and it was pretty clear,
it was still the same pattern...

541
00:25:49,882 --> 00:25:52,426
[Vanessa] I don't know if people
nowadays say we tried to hang out.

542
00:25:52,509 --> 00:25:53,802
Did you guys kiss?

543
00:25:54,887 --> 00:25:57,181
-[chuckles, exhales] Yes, we did.
-[Chris coughs]

544
00:25:57,264 --> 00:25:59,725
We did. That's all it was.
We never hooked up or anything.

545
00:25:59,808 --> 00:26:01,393
-You did what?
-We kissed.

546
00:26:01,977 --> 00:26:03,604
-But we never hooked up.
-[Vanessa] Wait.

547
00:26:03,687 --> 00:26:05,439
What is hooking up these days?
Like, full sex?

548
00:26:05,522 --> 00:26:07,983
Like, let's fucking go. [laughs]

549
00:26:08,067 --> 00:26:10,194
[Johnie] Oh, my God. What is that?

550
00:26:10,277 --> 00:26:12,821
No, we never...
we never had any sexual relations.

551
00:26:12,905 --> 00:26:15,824
-[Nick] So you guys made out then?
-I never had sexual relations.

552
00:26:15,908 --> 00:26:19,828
-[Izzy] It was at the bar.
-At the bar. That was a cast get-together.

553
00:26:19,912 --> 00:26:22,664
It was just, like, after a while,
like, we all kind of hung out.

554
00:26:22,748 --> 00:26:24,166
If they were out, I would be like,

555
00:26:24,249 --> 00:26:26,877
"Dude, I'll go swing by,
say hi to the guys and the girls."

556
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:28,545
[Vanessa] What guys and girls were there?

557
00:26:28,629 --> 00:26:31,090
Y'all two were there.
Yeah, Lydia and Milton were there.

558
00:26:31,173 --> 00:26:33,509
[Vanessa] Was Chris there?
'Cause he's smirking over here.

559
00:26:33,592 --> 00:26:35,928
Yeah, he came up... never mind. [laughing]

560
00:26:36,011 --> 00:26:37,471
-I, uh...
-[Nick] You were there?

561
00:26:37,554 --> 00:26:39,515
Hold on a second.
You guys were making out,

562
00:26:39,598 --> 00:26:41,767
and you were actually
at the same bar at the same time?

563
00:26:41,850 --> 00:26:42,893
Yeah, with her girlfriends.

564
00:26:42,976 --> 00:26:45,437
-Yeah, I was there with...
-You guys. I'm so sorry.

565
00:26:45,521 --> 00:26:47,106
[laughing]

566
00:26:47,189 --> 00:26:49,775
I genuinely feel like I'm prodding
like a nosy friend, but I hate...

567
00:26:49,858 --> 00:26:51,318
Getting blown out of proportion.

568
00:26:51,401 --> 00:26:55,280
After that time, like, Chris had already...
they were already done.

569
00:26:55,364 --> 00:26:58,075
Um, obviously, her and I weren't.

570
00:26:58,158 --> 00:27:01,078
So that was already, like, done.
This was after her and Chris already...

571
00:27:01,161 --> 00:27:04,706
So you weren't making out at the bar.
You guys left. Or were you at the bar?

572
00:27:04,790 --> 00:27:08,001
-I... uh.
-[laughing]

573
00:27:08,085 --> 00:27:10,796
We made out in his Jeep.
We never hooked up.

574
00:27:10,879 --> 00:27:12,589
-Yeah.
-[Johnie] That's the end of it.

575
00:27:12,673 --> 00:27:14,758
-Hooking up nowadays means sex.
-[laughs]

576
00:27:14,842 --> 00:27:17,970
Stacy, did you know about
any of this happening? You did. Okay.

577
00:27:18,053 --> 00:27:19,054
How did you find out?

578
00:27:19,138 --> 00:27:21,974
-Houston. It's not that big.
-Um... no.

579
00:27:22,057 --> 00:27:25,060
Houston's, like, a huge city, but somehow,
it seems very, very small right now.

580
00:27:25,144 --> 00:27:26,353
[Lydia] I disagree.

581
00:27:26,436 --> 00:27:28,355
-How'd you find out?
-[Stacy] I have good friends.

582
00:27:28,438 --> 00:27:31,525
That tell me things.
And at that point, he's single.

583
00:27:31,608 --> 00:27:33,318
He can do whatever he wants to do.

584
00:27:33,402 --> 00:27:37,573
I was surprised because
of what he had told me about her,

585
00:27:37,656 --> 00:27:40,951
and it didn't seem like
you spoke fairly highly of her.

586
00:27:41,702 --> 00:27:45,789
So that's on you,
and I think a reflection of you.

587
00:27:45,873 --> 00:27:48,000
It's like, do whatever you need to do,

588
00:27:48,083 --> 00:27:51,545
but it was shocking. I wasn't shocked
that he was making out with anybody.

589
00:27:51,628 --> 00:27:56,550
Actually, I mean, I heard about stuff
before that with other people, so...

590
00:27:56,633 --> 00:27:59,261
-Before that, but after your breakup?
-[Stacy] Mm-hmm.

591
00:27:59,344 --> 00:28:00,179
Yeah.

592
00:28:00,262 --> 00:28:03,640
-Izzy, I'm curious, not to call you out.
-Call me out. Let's go. I'm here for it.

593
00:28:03,724 --> 00:28:06,977
At the party,
you defended your actions that night

594
00:28:07,060 --> 00:28:11,023
by calling Chris a great friend.
And you had his back and all this stuff,

595
00:28:11,106 --> 00:28:13,650
and then seems like
very shortly thereafter,

596
00:28:13,734 --> 00:28:16,695
you're making out
with his very recent ex-girlfriend.

597
00:28:16,778 --> 00:28:21,033
So I'm curious how you
defend that, reconcile that, explain that.

598
00:28:21,116 --> 00:28:24,620
[Izzy] I mean, Chris and Johnie's business
was Chris and Johnie's.

599
00:28:24,703 --> 00:28:26,788
I don't know if you
were upset with me for that.

600
00:28:26,872 --> 00:28:28,415
-No.
-[Izzy] I didn't think you were.

601
00:28:28,498 --> 00:28:29,875
But if I did, I'm sorry.

602
00:28:29,958 --> 00:28:32,169
I mean, it is painful seeing that,

603
00:28:32,252 --> 00:28:36,298
but like I said before,
the emotions are so high,

604
00:28:36,381 --> 00:28:38,133
and you're falling for these people.

605
00:28:38,217 --> 00:28:39,384
[Lydia exhales]

606
00:28:39,468 --> 00:28:41,720
And it's like you go back to real life,

607
00:28:41,803 --> 00:28:43,805
and everyone's like,
"Oh, good to see you."

608
00:28:43,889 --> 00:28:47,017
It's been a week and a half,
and you feel like you've just lived

609
00:28:47,726 --> 00:28:49,853
three lifetimes like, but

610
00:28:50,604 --> 00:28:54,900
it's their life,
and they had a connection from what I saw.

611
00:28:54,983 --> 00:28:57,152
They had a real connection and so why not...

612
00:28:58,028 --> 00:29:01,240
If we're not together
and they're not together, then why not?

613
00:29:01,323 --> 00:29:02,157
[Vanessa] Yeah.

614
00:29:02,783 --> 00:29:05,577
So, Izzy, you told us that
after the wedding,

615
00:29:05,661 --> 00:29:07,204
you guys, you know, took a week,

616
00:29:07,287 --> 00:29:09,748
got back together
and then you walked away.

617
00:29:09,831 --> 00:29:11,833
-And you didn't talk for a year.
-[Stacy] Mm-hmm.

618
00:29:11,917 --> 00:29:14,920
After that year,
how did you guys reconnect?

619
00:29:15,712 --> 00:29:19,049
[chuckles] So Houston bars,
gotta love 'em for hooking up.

620
00:29:19,132 --> 00:29:21,134
-[laughing]
-I gotta visit these Houston bars, man.

621
00:29:21,218 --> 00:29:24,346
-Uh, maybe you don't.
-Well, maybe it's not a good idea.

622
00:29:24,429 --> 00:29:25,597
All right. [laughs]

623
00:29:25,681 --> 00:29:28,308
So it's crazy, I think it was like,
what, Mother's Day weekend.

624
00:29:28,392 --> 00:29:29,601
Your mom was in town.

625
00:29:29,685 --> 00:29:31,895
-My sister just graduated.
-Oh, yeah, that's right.

626
00:29:31,979 --> 00:29:34,231
Grad school. Of course they're like,
"Let's go to a bar."

627
00:29:34,314 --> 00:29:35,857
Which I don't usually do.

628
00:29:35,941 --> 00:29:37,693
We hang out on opposite sides of town.

629
00:29:37,776 --> 00:29:42,906
Yeah, so we walk in, and my family
loves him, and he loves my family.

630
00:29:42,990 --> 00:29:46,285
So I'm just standing there, and I see
my mom, like, throw her hands up.

631
00:29:46,368 --> 00:29:47,577
She's like, "Izzy!"

632
00:29:47,661 --> 00:29:50,706
-We haven't spoken. I'm like, "Oh, no."
-[chuckles]

633
00:29:50,789 --> 00:29:53,375
-[Izzy laughs] That was crazy.
-Like, scared. Like, what is this?

634
00:29:53,458 --> 00:29:56,211
So then my sister goes over,
and then he came straight up to me

635
00:29:56,295 --> 00:29:58,380
and gave me the biggest hug,
which was a huge relief,

636
00:29:58,463 --> 00:30:01,383
just because when you go through
something like this together,

637
00:30:01,466 --> 00:30:05,304
you do have a bond,
and when that's gone, you feel very alone.

638
00:30:05,387 --> 00:30:07,973
There's a lot of things come up
that you think about that person,

639
00:30:08,056 --> 00:30:10,517
and you wanna talk to him about it,
and you can't.

640
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,520
So that night we kind of,
like, cleared everything up.

641
00:30:13,603 --> 00:30:17,357
We had enough time to really process,
like, how we felt about things,

642
00:30:17,441 --> 00:30:18,775
how things went.

643
00:30:18,859 --> 00:30:22,571
And I think we both just felt like
we want the best for each other,

644
00:30:22,654 --> 00:30:25,866
and that was, like,
palpable that we just felt this like...

645
00:30:26,616 --> 00:30:29,745
-There's no hate. There's only love and...
-[Izzy] Mm-hmm. Yeah.

646
00:30:29,828 --> 00:30:32,080
-We needed that. Like, after a year.
-Yeah.

647
00:30:33,123 --> 00:30:37,461
And I would say it was on me more so.
I was just honestly still just so hurt.

648
00:30:37,961 --> 00:30:42,257
Um, my dad had ended up passing away
probably about a month after the wedding,

649
00:30:42,341 --> 00:30:45,177
and she texted me. Um...

650
00:30:45,927 --> 00:30:48,180
-[Vanessa] I'm sorry to hear that.
-That's okay.

651
00:30:48,263 --> 00:30:50,557
But, like, I just didn't respond.

652
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,685
I don't know what to say.
I still was so upset at her.

653
00:30:53,769 --> 00:30:55,854
I'm just, like,
I'm not gonna say anything.

654
00:30:55,937 --> 00:30:59,524
And it was the best feeling
to see her again.

655
00:30:59,608 --> 00:31:02,069
Uh, obviously I got over it and...

656
00:31:02,611 --> 00:31:06,698
[clicks tongue] Um, yeah,
we just, like, hung out a couple times,

657
00:31:06,782 --> 00:31:09,451
and we just answered
all the questions we had.

658
00:31:09,534 --> 00:31:13,872
Yeah, and I think that's why now
we have such a great friendship.

659
00:31:13,955 --> 00:31:15,123
Like, I asked her for advice.

660
00:31:15,207 --> 00:31:19,795
Uh, she's seen, you know, girls that I've,
like, tried dating and stuff like that,

661
00:31:19,878 --> 00:31:22,672
which we have a story for y'all
on that one. It's really good.

662
00:31:22,756 --> 00:31:24,341
-Do tell.
-Yeah, please.

663
00:31:24,424 --> 00:31:26,510
-Should I tell it? I'll tell it.
-[groans]

664
00:31:26,593 --> 00:31:29,513
-[laughing]
-Izzy, I feel like you're the storyteller.

665
00:31:29,596 --> 00:31:31,848
-[Vanessa] You wanna tell the story.
-He really does.

666
00:31:31,932 --> 00:31:33,850
[Izzy] So I'm out, right, with, um...

667
00:31:33,934 --> 00:31:37,521
I'm kind of, like, seeing this girl.
Just a cooking class.

668
00:31:37,604 --> 00:31:38,688
What is it, a store?

669
00:31:38,772 --> 00:31:41,942
It's like a store, and they had, like,
a little cooking room in the back.

670
00:31:42,025 --> 00:31:45,654
I walk in. I'm with the girl,
and I just hear Stacy's laugh.

671
00:31:45,737 --> 00:31:48,323
Like, I can hear her laugh
from a mile away, and I know it's her.

672
00:31:48,407 --> 00:31:50,992
So I hear her. I walk in.
I hear her laugh. I was like, "No way."

673
00:31:51,076 --> 00:31:52,452
-[all laughing]
-[Izzy] No way.

674
00:31:52,536 --> 00:31:53,578
[Stacy] Oh, no.

675
00:31:53,662 --> 00:31:55,497
So I go in and turn around the corner.

676
00:31:55,580 --> 00:31:57,666
-And it's her with her date.
-[laughing]

677
00:31:57,749 --> 00:32:00,544
And I'm like, "Holy shit."
So I have to tell my date.

678
00:32:00,627 --> 00:32:02,587
Like, "Hey, my ex is here."

679
00:32:02,671 --> 00:32:04,089
-My ex-fiancée.
-Ex-fiancée.

680
00:32:04,172 --> 00:32:06,716
I didn't say that. I didn't say that,
but it was the same thing.

681
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,261
Like, you hear his voice from the pods...

682
00:32:09,344 --> 00:32:11,555
-Again, Houston is not that big.
-[Stacy] Yeah.

683
00:32:11,638 --> 00:32:13,807
-[Nick] Who knew Houston was so small?
-[Stacy] Small.

684
00:32:13,890 --> 00:32:17,185
So then we're stuck
in a two-hour cooking class together,

685
00:32:17,769 --> 00:32:19,479
and they have us in a foursome.

686
00:32:19,563 --> 00:32:20,772
-When we walk in...
-You four?

687
00:32:20,856 --> 00:32:22,816
Walk in, go find your name tags.

688
00:32:22,899 --> 00:32:24,651
-We're cooking paella together.
-At the table.

689
00:32:24,734 --> 00:32:27,821
[Stacy] There was not enough wine
in the world.

690
00:32:27,904 --> 00:32:29,739
-They put the four of you together?
-[Stacy] No.

691
00:32:29,823 --> 00:32:31,575
-No.
-Because it's all random.

692
00:32:31,658 --> 00:32:34,453
Then the chef was like, "Do you all
want a group photo?" I'm like, "No."

693
00:32:34,536 --> 00:32:36,371
Did your date know who Izzy was?

694
00:32:36,455 --> 00:32:39,416
I told him real quick before going in,
'cause it was his birthday.

695
00:32:39,499 --> 00:32:42,586
I, like, surprised him with a cooking
class that he always wanted to take.

696
00:32:42,669 --> 00:32:44,796
I'm like, "Real quick. My ex is here."

697
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,632
"If you're uncomfortable,
I have no problem leaving right now."

698
00:32:47,716 --> 00:32:49,468
He's like, "If you're cool, I'm cool."

699
00:32:49,551 --> 00:32:52,179
[Vanessa] So is this a guy you're
serious about or a one-off date?

700
00:32:52,262 --> 00:32:56,349
I mean, it's a birthday cooking class.
That sounds a little serious.

701
00:32:56,433 --> 00:32:58,518
-No comment.
-[laughs] Attagirl.

702
00:32:58,602 --> 00:33:00,061
[Nick] I think that's our answer.

703
00:33:00,145 --> 00:33:02,481
No comment. No comment. No.

704
00:33:02,564 --> 00:33:06,651
Um, it was an experience
that I'll never forget. [laughs]

705
00:33:06,735 --> 00:33:11,740
Okay. So, you guys met up a year later.
You see this girl.

706
00:33:11,823 --> 00:33:14,367
She's glowing.
You both said it felt like home.

707
00:33:14,993 --> 00:33:16,953
[Nick] A warm blanket, I think you said.

708
00:33:17,037 --> 00:33:19,289
[Vanessa] Did that warm blanket
include some tongue?

709
00:33:19,372 --> 00:33:22,417
[laughing]

710
00:33:22,501 --> 00:33:24,544
[exhales] Yes, we did share a kiss.

711
00:33:24,628 --> 00:33:29,090
Um, but we... we both knew,

712
00:33:29,674 --> 00:33:32,928
um, it was just best to not,
I don't know, hurt each other again.

713
00:33:33,011 --> 00:33:35,388
-Or confuse each other again.
-Yeah.

714
00:33:35,472 --> 00:33:37,724
And I think we appreciated
more just having each other

715
00:33:37,807 --> 00:33:42,020
back in each other's lives
and our friendship. We're bros, right?

716
00:33:42,103 --> 00:33:43,021
"We're bros"?

717
00:33:43,104 --> 00:33:45,023
Totally. Totally bros.

718
00:33:45,106 --> 00:33:47,901
-It's my girl. I care about her.
-[laughs] I give him dating advice.

719
00:33:47,984 --> 00:33:50,278
Nothing's changed other than,
like, you know, we're...

720
00:33:50,362 --> 00:33:53,156
We've obviously moved on, but I adore her.

721
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,742
I always will.
There's always that special spot.

722
00:33:55,825 --> 00:33:57,452
-So...
-[Nick] So, Izzy, are you...

723
00:33:57,536 --> 00:33:59,538
We've established
that Stacy's dating someone.

724
00:33:59,621 --> 00:34:01,706
-His name is "no comment."
-No comment.

725
00:34:01,790 --> 00:34:05,335
There's a "no comment,"
but I'll deduct my own reasoning there.

726
00:34:05,418 --> 00:34:06,795
Are you dating anybody?

727
00:34:06,878 --> 00:34:09,589
What's the status of your lost
and found basket? Is it full?

728
00:34:09,673 --> 00:34:12,259
-[laughs]
-The girl from the cooking class.

729
00:34:12,342 --> 00:34:13,677
I've been seeing her.

730
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,097
Um, we're not official yet,
but it's getting to that point.

731
00:34:17,180 --> 00:34:18,431
She's an amazing girl.

732
00:34:18,515 --> 00:34:20,725
She's actually meeting me here
after the reunion.

733
00:34:20,809 --> 00:34:24,479
So I'll be taking a vacation with her
and, you know, getting out of Houston

734
00:34:24,563 --> 00:34:25,939
and just exploring that more.

735
00:34:26,022 --> 00:34:28,358
So yeah, working on it,
but it's going well.

736
00:34:28,942 --> 00:34:30,694
[Vanessa] Okay, a lot is happening.

737
00:34:30,777 --> 00:34:33,405
Heads are spinning. I don't think
we're gonna stop any time soon.

738
00:34:33,488 --> 00:34:37,492
We're gonna keep it going. So we are
going to bring out another guest.

739
00:34:37,576 --> 00:34:41,037
-Lydia, you had a best friend in the pods.
-Yes.

740
00:34:41,746 --> 00:34:45,000
Aaliyah. So everyone please,
let's welcome her now.

741
00:34:46,543 --> 00:34:48,878
-If she doesn't show up again...
-[laughing]

742
00:34:49,796 --> 00:34:51,590
-[Izzy] Hello.
-[Aaliyah] Hello, everybody.

743
00:34:51,673 --> 00:34:53,049
-Hello.
-Hi.

744
00:34:53,133 --> 00:34:54,801
-[Nick] You look nice.
-[Aaliyah] Thank you.

745
00:34:54,884 --> 00:34:56,428
-So do you all.
-[Nick] Thank you.

746
00:34:56,511 --> 00:34:58,054
{\an8}-[Vanessa] You look gorgeous.
-Thank you.

747
00:34:58,138 --> 00:35:03,310
{\an8}Let us take a look back at the friendship
that you, Aaliyah, had with Lydia.

748
00:35:06,021 --> 00:35:09,149
I love you.
I'm sorry that you feel this way.

749
00:35:09,232 --> 00:35:11,401
-[Lydia] I love you too.
-[Aaliyah] I'm sorry.

750
00:35:11,484 --> 00:35:13,570
I know this is really tough.

751
00:35:13,653 --> 00:35:15,614
-Who was it?
-[Lydia] Izzy. Izzy.

752
00:35:15,697 --> 00:35:16,656
[Aaliyah] I'm sorry.

753
00:35:16,740 --> 00:35:22,162
You are deserving of somebody
who is totally sure of what they want

754
00:35:22,245 --> 00:35:23,538
and what they have.

755
00:35:23,622 --> 00:35:27,167
If he's not seeing that, he's not for you.

756
00:35:27,250 --> 00:35:29,044
-[sobbing]
-[Lydia] No, no, no. <i>Tranquilo.</i>

757
00:35:29,127 --> 00:35:31,588
Shh. Who was it?

758
00:35:31,671 --> 00:35:32,964
[Aaliyah] Uche.

759
00:35:33,048 --> 00:35:35,342
He thinks that I'm gonna cheat on him.

760
00:35:35,425 --> 00:35:36,885
-[Lydia] Why?
-I've cheated before.

761
00:35:36,968 --> 00:35:39,012
Is this the guy
that you really wanna marry?

762
00:35:39,095 --> 00:35:41,640
A guy who's gonna judge you this easily?

763
00:35:41,723 --> 00:35:47,270
And I don't wanna say this, but you're so
like me that I could see this happening.

764
00:35:47,354 --> 00:35:50,273
And I know this
because I see myself in you.

765
00:35:50,357 --> 00:35:51,524
Believe me.

766
00:35:53,109 --> 00:35:57,113
-His past doesn't define who you are.
-Yeah. Yeah.

767
00:35:57,197 --> 00:35:59,658
You know this motherfucker,
we're gonna fight.

768
00:35:59,741 --> 00:36:01,117
[laughs]

769
00:36:01,201 --> 00:36:02,869
I'm in love.

770
00:36:02,952 --> 00:36:04,704
He's so perfect for me.

771
00:36:04,788 --> 00:36:07,123
He told me
he couldn't see a future without me.

772
00:36:08,291 --> 00:36:10,168
-Wow, he said that?
-Mm-hmm.

773
00:36:12,337 --> 00:36:13,213
Um...

774
00:36:15,006 --> 00:36:16,091
What's up?

775
00:36:19,302 --> 00:36:20,428
[Aaliyah] He told me.

776
00:36:21,179 --> 00:36:23,056
-[Lydia] You know? You know?
-Mm-hmm.

777
00:36:25,100 --> 00:36:26,059
I cried.

778
00:36:28,436 --> 00:36:29,813
-[sighs]
-[Lydia] I was scared.

779
00:36:29,896 --> 00:36:32,232
'Cause I didn't know
how you were gonna react.

780
00:36:32,315 --> 00:36:33,149
Yeah.

781
00:36:33,233 --> 00:36:35,735
I'm pretty sure you're gonna get along.

782
00:36:35,819 --> 00:36:38,071
-He is kind of like a workaholic.
-Yeah, I could tell.

783
00:36:38,154 --> 00:36:41,574
He is OCD. Oh, his house is dope.

784
00:36:41,658 --> 00:36:43,702
-Yeah.
-[laughs]

785
00:36:43,785 --> 00:36:46,121
Did I tell you, like,
my favorite whiskey is because of Uche?

786
00:36:46,204 --> 00:36:48,498
Wild Turkey Honey. It's his favorite.

787
00:36:48,581 --> 00:36:49,749
Oh, my God.

788
00:36:49,833 --> 00:36:51,459
By the way, I wanna be honest with you.

789
00:36:51,543 --> 00:36:55,630
Last time we saw each other
was back in January this year.

790
00:36:55,714 --> 00:36:57,257
-Mm-hmm.
-And we slept together.

791
00:37:00,218 --> 00:37:04,055
Looking back,
it's really hard and hurtful, 'cause...

792
00:37:05,974 --> 00:37:09,978
From the bottom of my heart,
I wanted her to have her happy ending.

793
00:37:10,562 --> 00:37:12,856
{\an8}It's unfortunate that that didn't happen.

794
00:37:12,939 --> 00:37:15,984
Um, I didn't read the room correctly,
as you may see.

795
00:37:16,067 --> 00:37:17,277
However,

796
00:37:18,695 --> 00:37:24,200
I had the best intentions,
and I was trying to just be honest.

797
00:37:24,284 --> 00:37:28,204
Do you feel like, Lydia,
you finally had this... like an instapot?

798
00:37:28,288 --> 00:37:31,541
Like, the pressure released, and you knew
that she knew and you felt free...

799
00:37:31,624 --> 00:37:35,253
That's the best way to describe it.
I just felt an energy release.

800
00:37:35,336 --> 00:37:36,379
I was like... [exhales]

801
00:37:36,463 --> 00:37:39,048
I can say everything now.
Like, I'm allowed to.

802
00:37:39,674 --> 00:37:42,886
And as a friend,
that's how I am with my best friends.

803
00:37:46,222 --> 00:37:47,557
It was a tough time.

804
00:37:48,433 --> 00:37:52,771
And I did the best that I could
with the information that I had

805
00:37:53,897 --> 00:37:56,900
and the relationship and the connection
that I had with Aaliyah.

806
00:37:57,859 --> 00:37:59,068
I did care for her.

807
00:37:59,652 --> 00:38:01,863
I still care for her.

808
00:38:01,946 --> 00:38:04,532
Um, I loved her.

809
00:38:04,616 --> 00:38:08,828
I was in a really, really tough position.

810
00:38:09,329 --> 00:38:13,291
And the whole situation with Uche

811
00:38:14,125 --> 00:38:17,128
is not something that was

812
00:38:17,212 --> 00:38:19,380
easy to deal with.

813
00:38:20,924 --> 00:38:23,510
I felt like I came here

814
00:38:23,593 --> 00:38:28,348
to have the genuine <i>Love is Blind</i>
experience, and I didn't get that.

815
00:38:28,431 --> 00:38:33,144
Um, I set my boundaries with Lydia
when we had the discussion on the couch,

816
00:38:33,228 --> 00:38:35,063
and she didn't respect my boundaries.

817
00:38:35,814 --> 00:38:38,233
And I didn't feel like

818
00:38:38,316 --> 00:38:41,361
they were gonna continue
to be respected throughout.

819
00:38:41,444 --> 00:38:45,782
And that's not the type of situation
that anybody should have to endure

820
00:38:45,865 --> 00:38:47,867
or deal with going into an engagement.

821
00:38:47,951 --> 00:38:50,870
That should be a happy moment.
That should be a sacred moment.

822
00:38:50,954 --> 00:38:55,959
And I didn't get that respect
that I was requesting multiple times.

823
00:38:58,711 --> 00:39:02,382
So, Lydia, obviously this is an experiment
where people get to know each other

824
00:39:02,465 --> 00:39:05,134
with no preconceived notions.

825
00:39:05,218 --> 00:39:07,971
The producers have said
their immediate thought

826
00:39:08,054 --> 00:39:09,848
was to send you and Uche home

827
00:39:09,931 --> 00:39:12,308
after they found out
that you knew each other.

828
00:39:12,392 --> 00:39:15,728
However, you and Uche
both separately told them

829
00:39:15,812 --> 00:39:18,439
that you had no interest
in dating one another,

830
00:39:18,940 --> 00:39:21,067
and you all agreed to continue
in the experiment

831
00:39:21,150 --> 00:39:25,697
as long as you didn't reveal
your past to the other participants.

832
00:39:26,489 --> 00:39:27,824
Now the feeling

833
00:39:27,907 --> 00:39:31,327
was that revealing that information
could ruin the experiment for one another

834
00:39:31,411 --> 00:39:32,662
and for the other participants.

835
00:39:33,371 --> 00:39:35,999
Obviously, once it became clear
that you had developed

836
00:39:36,082 --> 00:39:37,917
real feelings for someone else,

837
00:39:38,001 --> 00:39:40,336
the producers and you agreed
that you were free

838
00:39:40,420 --> 00:39:43,006
to share that information at any time

839
00:39:43,089 --> 00:39:44,507
with anyone you wanted.

840
00:39:45,341 --> 00:39:48,219
So, Lydia, my question for you
is now looking back,

841
00:39:48,303 --> 00:39:51,639
do you think that the producers
made the right choice

842
00:39:51,723 --> 00:39:53,516
in allowing you to continue

843
00:39:54,225 --> 00:39:55,476
in the experiment?

844
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,855
-I mean, I'm a little biased, because...
-[laughing]

845
00:39:58,938 --> 00:40:01,482
Like, I got married. I found my person.

846
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:06,404
I think everybody handled it
the best way that they could.

847
00:40:07,322 --> 00:40:09,574
Um, it was unfair.

848
00:40:09,657 --> 00:40:12,076
It was unfair to Aaliyah.
It was unfair to Uche.

849
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,288
It was unfair to Milton,
and it was unfair to me.

850
00:40:15,371 --> 00:40:18,499
And I think that the public is a little

851
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,294
too quick to judge

852
00:40:21,377 --> 00:40:25,798
in a situation that you don't get
a training manual, how to...

853
00:40:25,882 --> 00:40:27,550
how to deal with that.

854
00:40:27,634 --> 00:40:28,468
[Nick] Hmm.

855
00:40:28,551 --> 00:40:31,679
Aaliyah, do you think that the producers
should have allowed them

856
00:40:31,763 --> 00:40:33,890
to stay in the experiment?

857
00:40:33,973 --> 00:40:36,184
[Aaliyah] Yes, they should have
allowed them to stay.

858
00:40:36,267 --> 00:40:39,354
I just think that they should have
allowed them to, um,

859
00:40:39,437 --> 00:40:42,732
share that information with us.

860
00:40:42,815 --> 00:40:45,234
Like, wouldn't that have compromised
the experiment

861
00:40:45,318 --> 00:40:47,487
had you known earlier on?

862
00:40:47,570 --> 00:40:48,529
[Aaliyah] No, I don't.

863
00:40:48,613 --> 00:40:52,283
I think I would have kind of
separated myself from Lydia,

864
00:40:52,367 --> 00:40:56,704
especially knowing, like,
that the past was so recent.

865
00:40:56,788 --> 00:41:01,250
Um, I would have given her the space
to process her emotions

866
00:41:01,334 --> 00:41:03,544
regarding that realization.

867
00:41:03,628 --> 00:41:07,173
'Cause, I mean,
if what they're saying is, um,

868
00:41:07,966 --> 00:41:10,468
is true, 'cause I have my...

869
00:41:11,177 --> 00:41:14,305
my beliefs on a few things
regarding this situation.

870
00:41:14,389 --> 00:41:17,684
But if what she
and Uche are saying is true,

871
00:41:18,184 --> 00:41:22,188
um, they were just as shocked
as I was when the news came about.

872
00:41:22,271 --> 00:41:25,066
What about you guys?
Do you think that Uche and Lydia<i>,</i>

873
00:41:25,149 --> 00:41:28,152
that the producers made the right choice
letting them stay in the experiment?

874
00:41:28,236 --> 00:41:31,197
Throwing it out there since this has
never happened before on <i>Love is Blind.</i>

875
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:32,115
I think so.

876
00:41:32,198 --> 00:41:33,533
-Yeah.
-Yeah.

877
00:41:33,616 --> 00:41:36,244
As long as they kept their word,
like, yeah, why not?

878
00:41:36,327 --> 00:41:39,330
Like, obviously, they didn't work out.
They were both looking for love.

879
00:41:39,414 --> 00:41:42,834
I'm a sucker for love, so I'm like,
"Y'all stay. Like, please, come on."

880
00:41:42,917 --> 00:41:44,627
[Stacy] I think
it sucks to hear for Aaliyah

881
00:41:44,711 --> 00:41:46,796
'cause it was kind of at your expense.

882
00:41:46,879 --> 00:41:50,591
I don't wanna sound, like,
insincere to your experience.

883
00:41:50,675 --> 00:41:53,636
I agree that they should have been in.
I said that.

884
00:41:53,720 --> 00:41:56,347
If you put yourself in their shoes
and had a connection with someone,

885
00:41:56,431 --> 00:41:58,474
you would wanna, like, see that through.

886
00:41:58,558 --> 00:42:01,185
-When you say you have your own beliefs.
-Yeah.

887
00:42:01,269 --> 00:42:02,520
What do you mean by that?

888
00:42:02,603 --> 00:42:05,648
There were things
that were said to make me feel

889
00:42:05,732 --> 00:42:08,234
as though Lydia did come here for Uche.

890
00:42:08,317 --> 00:42:11,320
Um, and I would like for you
to kind of speak on that, Lydia.

891
00:42:11,404 --> 00:42:12,572
You told multiple women

892
00:42:12,655 --> 00:42:16,909
that you were hoping to run into somebody
from your past.

893
00:42:16,993 --> 00:42:19,370
Um, can I finish?
Can I finish my statement?

894
00:42:20,204 --> 00:42:24,584
You said you were hoping
to run into somebody from your past.

895
00:42:24,667 --> 00:42:27,462
We had a conversation, one-on-one,

896
00:42:27,545 --> 00:42:29,505
outside of filming, where you told me

897
00:42:29,589 --> 00:42:32,425
that you and Uche
discussed coming on this show.

898
00:42:33,009 --> 00:42:39,057
And I just feel like it's better to just
kind of be real about what happened

899
00:42:39,140 --> 00:42:40,558
and how you both got here.

900
00:42:40,641 --> 00:42:43,519
I just want you to touch on
those comments that were made.

901
00:42:43,603 --> 00:42:45,271
Like, where did that come from?

902
00:42:45,354 --> 00:42:49,150
Where was that instinct feeling
that you were telling us all that?

903
00:42:49,233 --> 00:42:51,235
You thought somebody was gonna be here.

904
00:42:51,319 --> 00:42:53,613
If you guys never talked about it,

905
00:42:53,696 --> 00:42:56,157
because he has mentioned that,
and you've mentioned that,

906
00:42:56,240 --> 00:42:59,118
but the contexts have been different,
and I just want answers,

907
00:42:59,202 --> 00:43:03,790
and I think everybody wants
to understand this a little bit better.

908
00:43:03,873 --> 00:43:08,002
I mean, again, I loved and care for you,

909
00:43:08,086 --> 00:43:10,630
and I say that
from the bottom of my heart.

910
00:43:10,713 --> 00:43:14,008
I, in terms of Uche and I,

911
00:43:14,092 --> 00:43:16,719
we had a conversation

912
00:43:16,803 --> 00:43:21,849
of two seconds in November of 2021.

913
00:43:22,475 --> 00:43:25,937
And, "Oh, yeah, I saw the casting."

914
00:43:26,020 --> 00:43:28,564
"Oh, yeah, I did too." And that was it.

915
00:43:28,648 --> 00:43:31,234
I had... and I'm gonna say it really clear

916
00:43:31,317 --> 00:43:33,319
for the public, for everybody.

917
00:43:33,402 --> 00:43:38,074
I had no confirmation
that Uche was gonna be there.

918
00:43:38,783 --> 00:43:42,745
My instinct that day that was like,
"Shit, this doesn't feel right."

919
00:43:43,412 --> 00:43:45,581
No, it was not hope. [scoffs]

920
00:43:45,665 --> 00:43:48,543
No. If I had that power,

921
00:43:48,626 --> 00:43:50,211
he would have not been there.

922
00:43:50,294 --> 00:43:51,921
A hundred percent.

923
00:43:52,004 --> 00:43:54,924
I really do think it was really
unfortunate for you, Aaliyah.

924
00:43:55,007 --> 00:43:56,551
I don't, um,

925
00:43:57,176 --> 00:44:00,680
I don't think you necessarily got
what you were looking for.

926
00:44:01,180 --> 00:44:04,851
And I don't think a lot of people did
from this experience.

927
00:44:04,934 --> 00:44:08,104
-[sighs]
-[Milton] The only marriage, me and Lydia.

928
00:44:08,813 --> 00:44:14,485
Um, but one thing I will say,
I will talk about my wife's character,

929
00:44:15,111 --> 00:44:17,780
because I guarantee you
it's much better than mine.

930
00:44:18,281 --> 00:44:22,660
Um... my wife is a fantastic woman.

931
00:44:22,743 --> 00:44:25,413
Um, she motivates me
to be better every day.

932
00:44:25,997 --> 00:44:28,499
And I think the accusations,

933
00:44:29,041 --> 00:44:33,087
whatever anybody says,
I don't truthfully know Aaliyah,

934
00:44:33,171 --> 00:44:35,965
but I would say, I do know Uche,

935
00:44:36,048 --> 00:44:38,718
and I do know
how he presented himself to me.

936
00:44:38,801 --> 00:44:41,429
We were never friends.
We were never peers.

937
00:44:42,263 --> 00:44:44,182
Um, he was

938
00:44:45,183 --> 00:44:49,145
interestingly obsessed
with my relationship with Lydia.

939
00:44:49,228 --> 00:44:50,396
And I didn't know why.

940
00:44:50,479 --> 00:44:52,940
If Izzy asked me
who I was talking to and I said,

941
00:44:53,024 --> 00:44:57,737
"I wanna keep my cards
close to my chest," he respected that.

942
00:44:57,820 --> 00:44:59,572
-[Aaliyah] Right.
-[Milton] Chris respected.

943
00:44:59,655 --> 00:45:01,616
Uche didn't. He pried.

944
00:45:01,699 --> 00:45:03,910
-And I knew then, something's strange.
-[Aaliyah] Right.

945
00:45:03,993 --> 00:45:08,206
Something's weird.
He doesn't respect I'm saying "back off."

946
00:45:08,789 --> 00:45:10,249
I placated with him.

947
00:45:10,333 --> 00:45:13,252
You know, they were not my friends.

948
00:45:14,337 --> 00:45:17,048
You know, whatever.
Like, sure, I'll take a shot with you,

949
00:45:17,131 --> 00:45:18,507
but we're not friends.

950
00:45:18,591 --> 00:45:22,845
I know his character. He gave me so much
unwarranted information about Lydia.

951
00:45:23,346 --> 00:45:25,806
-Um, at that...
-Just a minute, give me... [indistinct]

952
00:45:25,890 --> 00:45:29,435
At the party, he had told me...

953
00:45:29,518 --> 00:45:32,480
He'd want to pull up screenshots.
He'd want to show me everything.

954
00:45:32,563 --> 00:45:35,942
At the end of the day,
I told him my relationship that I built

955
00:45:36,025 --> 00:45:40,780
with my fiancée at the time is independent
of anything you have going on.

956
00:45:40,863 --> 00:45:45,785
I truthfully don't give a shit because
that's how strong my bond is with Lydia.

957
00:45:45,868 --> 00:45:46,786
[Aaliyah] Right.

958
00:45:46,869 --> 00:45:49,205
[Milton] Regardless,
no one can deter that.

959
00:45:49,288 --> 00:45:51,374
There are always gonna be
detractors in this world

960
00:45:51,457 --> 00:45:53,125
that don't wanna see you succeed.

961
00:45:53,209 --> 00:45:54,710
They don't want you happy.

962
00:45:54,794 --> 00:45:59,090
I think this whole experiment is
to understand how to navigate past that.

963
00:45:59,173 --> 00:46:02,260
-And if it's fucking real, you can do it.
-[Aaliyah] Mm-hmm. Right.

964
00:46:02,343 --> 00:46:05,179
And I applaud you for setting
your boundaries with Uche.

965
00:46:05,263 --> 00:46:07,265
I thought that was pretty amazing.

966
00:46:07,348 --> 00:46:10,142
I was, like,
very literally clapping at the TV

967
00:46:10,226 --> 00:46:13,562
when I saw that scene,
so good for you, Milton. [chuckles]

968
00:46:13,646 --> 00:46:15,773
-Go, Milton, go.
-[Vanessa] Y'all, Milton is so wise.

969
00:46:15,856 --> 00:46:18,526
-He's so wise.
-You're such a handsome grown boy.

970
00:46:18,609 --> 00:46:22,863
I'm so proud of you, dude.
You're so different from pods to now.

971
00:46:22,947 --> 00:46:24,699
Like, I am honestly so proud of you.

972
00:46:24,782 --> 00:46:28,160
Well, you know why?
I think it's because when I first went in,

973
00:46:28,244 --> 00:46:30,955
all the guys that took bets,
"Oh, this guy's 24."

974
00:46:31,038 --> 00:46:33,332
-"He's not gonna get shit."
-[all laughing]

975
00:46:33,416 --> 00:46:35,668
-We were boys. We fucked around.
-[Izzy] Look at you now

976
00:46:35,751 --> 00:46:38,212
And it kind of stuck in my head,
and I was like,

977
00:46:38,296 --> 00:46:40,381
"Okay, they're not gonna know
the real me."

978
00:46:40,464 --> 00:46:43,259
"They're gonna know
the party boy, the fun guy,

979
00:46:43,342 --> 00:46:46,887
the guy that makes jokes."
And that's the thing with Lydia.

980
00:46:46,971 --> 00:46:49,181
She saw through that shit real quick,

981
00:46:49,265 --> 00:46:51,934
and she was just like,
"No, Milton, be real."

982
00:46:52,018 --> 00:46:54,020
"You're putting on a mask. Take it off."

983
00:46:54,103 --> 00:46:58,691
As time progressed with Izzy,
with Chris, you know, with JP,

984
00:46:58,774 --> 00:46:59,942
all the guys that

985
00:47:00,026 --> 00:47:03,571
continued to know me longer,
they got to really understand, like, "Oh."

986
00:47:03,654 --> 00:47:05,948
"He's not just
the comedic relief dumbass."

987
00:47:06,032 --> 00:47:09,618
Like, he actually,
you know, thinks deeply,

988
00:47:09,702 --> 00:47:11,912
and he actually
really cares about what he's doing.

989
00:47:11,996 --> 00:47:14,206
-[Vanessa] Yeah.
-I don't know if that always portrayed.

990
00:47:14,290 --> 00:47:17,335
[Vanessa] No, no, you know what?
In the end, Milton, it did.

991
00:47:17,418 --> 00:47:19,420
And what I will say, Aaliyah, is look,

992
00:47:20,296 --> 00:47:22,715
I think that it all unfolded
the way that it was supposed to.

993
00:47:22,798 --> 00:47:25,551
And he makes a very valid point
about he kind of was going through

994
00:47:25,634 --> 00:47:28,179
the same thing in different ways
on his end,

995
00:47:28,971 --> 00:47:32,308
but found a person that he was able
to elevate his relationship with.

996
00:47:32,391 --> 00:47:34,810
-Right, and that's great.
-Maybe you and Uche weren't.

997
00:47:34,894 --> 00:47:37,730
[Nick] Well, again,
it's never happened on this show before,

998
00:47:37,813 --> 00:47:40,566
and certainly not the way
the experiment is designed to work.

999
00:47:40,649 --> 00:47:44,403
And I'm sorry that you feel like
you didn't get what you came for.

1000
00:47:44,487 --> 00:47:45,696
I mean, I'm really happy.

1001
00:47:45,780 --> 00:47:48,574
I'm in a beautiful,
loving relationship now.

1002
00:47:48,657 --> 00:47:51,160
-With somebody who treats me like a queen.
-Good for you.

1003
00:47:51,243 --> 00:47:54,080
[Aaliyah] And I feel that day in
and day out, and I'm happy.

1004
00:47:54,163 --> 00:47:58,042
So I think that things happened
the way they were supposed to for me.

1005
00:47:58,125 --> 00:48:00,544
-[Vanessa] Yeah.
-And have led me to an amazing man now.

1006
00:48:00,628 --> 00:48:02,046
[Vanessa] So where'd you guys meet?

1007
00:48:02,129 --> 00:48:04,548
-We met on an R&B cruise.
-[Vanessa] Oh!

1008
00:48:04,632 --> 00:48:08,052
[Aaliyah] I went on this cruise
by myself just to kind of enjoy the scene

1009
00:48:08,135 --> 00:48:12,348
and, um, my now partner was there
by himself,

1010
00:48:12,431 --> 00:48:14,308
and it was just a very organic meeting,

1011
00:48:14,392 --> 00:48:16,435
and he was very chivalrous,

1012
00:48:16,519 --> 00:48:20,147
and he has been consistent
with that since day one.

1013
00:48:20,231 --> 00:48:23,150
-I'm really in a great place, at peace.
-[Nick] Good for you.

1014
00:48:23,234 --> 00:48:27,655
We are not fully done
talking about Uche just yet.

1015
00:48:27,738 --> 00:48:29,323
We are gonna switch gears.

1016
00:48:29,407 --> 00:48:34,120
We're gonna take a look at the last time
that we saw each of you with Uche.

1017
00:48:34,912 --> 00:48:37,581
[groans, laughs]

1018
00:48:40,292 --> 00:48:42,795
I do regret leaving you like that.

1019
00:48:43,379 --> 00:48:44,338
I do love you.

1020
00:48:45,005 --> 00:48:48,384
When I found out
that you had left, I broke.

1021
00:48:48,467 --> 00:48:51,178
I thought that we were on the same page.

1022
00:48:51,262 --> 00:48:53,013
The emotions and the doubts,

1023
00:48:53,097 --> 00:48:56,308
they started when I found out about Lydia.

1024
00:48:56,392 --> 00:48:57,601
We talked about it.

1025
00:48:57,685 --> 00:48:59,937
You told me that you left because,

1026
00:49:00,020 --> 00:49:03,691
you know, you got into a fight with Lydia.

1027
00:49:04,275 --> 00:49:08,362
But the real reason
is you didn't have confidence in me,

1028
00:49:08,446 --> 00:49:11,198
and you didn't have confidence
in our relationship.

1029
00:49:11,282 --> 00:49:12,992
I think it's over between us.

1030
00:49:14,410 --> 00:49:16,495
Whenever we started talking again,

1031
00:49:16,579 --> 00:49:18,747
I started getting messages

1032
00:49:18,831 --> 00:49:22,460
from girls that I follow
on Instagram saying that

1033
00:49:22,543 --> 00:49:25,045
you have been watching their stories.

1034
00:49:25,713 --> 00:49:26,964
[hesitates]

1035
00:49:27,047 --> 00:49:30,217
And then you drove by my house one day.

1036
00:49:30,301 --> 00:49:31,927
-You took a picture of my house.
-No.

1037
00:49:32,011 --> 00:49:33,304
And you sent it to me.

1038
00:49:33,387 --> 00:49:34,889
-[Lydia] Listen.
-You said, "I see you."

1039
00:49:34,972 --> 00:49:38,601
-I have nothing else to say.
-I have one last thing to say to you.

1040
00:49:38,684 --> 00:49:40,311
-No. After this?
-I have one last thing.

1041
00:49:40,394 --> 00:49:43,981
-I am super disappointed with you, Uche.
-I have one last thing, one last thing.

1042
00:49:44,064 --> 00:49:47,234
I was super disappointed with you.
I thought you were a great guy.

1043
00:49:47,318 --> 00:49:50,196
-I ain't gonna deal with this shit.
-[Uche] I just showed you.

1044
00:49:50,279 --> 00:49:52,948
-[Miriam] He's a freaking coward.
-He wants to portray me as crazy.

1045
00:49:53,032 --> 00:49:54,033
He was a liar.

1046
00:49:54,116 --> 00:49:56,702
He slept with someone
while he was dating me.

1047
00:49:56,785 --> 00:49:58,954
You and her have
very different perceptions.

1048
00:49:59,580 --> 00:50:00,789
You guys are both grown.

1049
00:50:00,873 --> 00:50:03,000
Regardless if, like,
you and her see eye-to eye.

1050
00:50:03,083 --> 00:50:05,544
Like, we're all
on different dimensional planes.

1051
00:50:06,462 --> 00:50:07,463
It is what it is.

1052
00:50:10,216 --> 00:50:13,302
There was a part at the barbecue that,

1053
00:50:13,385 --> 00:50:15,721
Milton, you actually showed your phone

1054
00:50:15,804 --> 00:50:18,390
to Lydia during
the conversation with Uche.

1055
00:50:18,474 --> 00:50:20,226
What was on the phone?

1056
00:50:20,309 --> 00:50:23,103
So going into that situation at the party,

1057
00:50:23,187 --> 00:50:27,525
we understood there may be parties
that we don't all, like, get along with.

1058
00:50:27,608 --> 00:50:31,237
And I gave Lydia
kind of, like, a safe word.

1059
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:36,700
Like, "Hey, if this gets too much,
like, we can dip out. We can leave."

1060
00:50:36,784 --> 00:50:40,079
-[Vanessa gasps]
-And it's just an oil barrel emoji.

1061
00:50:40,162 --> 00:50:42,373
-[Vanessa] You guys...
-And I showed her the oil barrel.

1062
00:50:42,456 --> 00:50:43,624
And she's like...

1063
00:50:43,707 --> 00:50:45,584
You are so wise beyond your years.

1064
00:50:45,668 --> 00:50:47,753
Why the oil barrel? I can't even say it.

1065
00:50:47,836 --> 00:50:50,214
-Oil barrel.
-Oil and gas, same industry.

1066
00:50:50,297 --> 00:50:54,134
I don't know. It's just like... it was...
like, how often do you use that emoji?

1067
00:50:54,218 --> 00:50:56,345
Like, if you sent that to somebody,
they would be like...

1068
00:50:56,428 --> 00:50:57,638
[Vanessa] You showed it to her,

1069
00:50:57,721 --> 00:50:59,890
because you could tell
at that point in the conversation...

1070
00:50:59,974 --> 00:51:01,183
[Milton] She was uncomfortable.

1071
00:51:01,267 --> 00:51:03,102
She didn't wanna continue
that conversation.

1072
00:51:03,185 --> 00:51:06,647
-[Lydia] Mm-hmm.
-And, like, hey, like...

1073
00:51:07,189 --> 00:51:10,609
Are you hitting your point
to where "fuck it, it's not worth it"?

1074
00:51:10,693 --> 00:51:12,903
-She's like, "Yeah."
-Oil barrel.

1075
00:51:12,987 --> 00:51:15,322
-How romantic.
-We need a safe word emoji, babe.

1076
00:51:15,406 --> 00:51:16,323
Oh, I have a safe word.

1077
00:51:16,407 --> 00:51:17,449
[all laughing]

1078
00:51:17,533 --> 00:51:20,369
Aaliyah, did the two of you continue
to see one another at all?

1079
00:51:20,452 --> 00:51:23,122
We actually did date after filming.

1080
00:51:24,039 --> 00:51:25,791
-We tried to.
-[Vanessa] And then it ended.

1081
00:51:26,375 --> 00:51:28,544
It ended,
yeah, for many reasons. [chuckles]

1082
00:51:28,627 --> 00:51:31,630
Um, I don't think I was his type.

1083
00:51:31,714 --> 00:51:34,049
Um, ultimately, he had kind of mentioned

1084
00:51:34,133 --> 00:51:37,219
to a few people that were part of the cast

1085
00:51:37,303 --> 00:51:42,099
that I wasn't, um, the type of woman
that he normally found attractive.

1086
00:51:42,725 --> 00:51:46,270
And, um, just based off
of everything that I had experienced,

1087
00:51:46,353 --> 00:51:50,190
I just didn't feel like I wanted
to chase a relationship with anyone.

1088
00:51:50,274 --> 00:51:52,109
Like, I know my worth as a woman.

1089
00:51:52,693 --> 00:51:54,236
-I know I'm beautiful.
-[Vanessa] Mm-hmm.

1090
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,197
And I'm proud
of who I am and how I carry myself.

1091
00:51:57,281 --> 00:52:01,910
And his tone with me
was just still so very mean

1092
00:52:01,994 --> 00:52:04,079
and kind of condescending.

1093
00:52:04,663 --> 00:52:07,207
I think he pretty much shocked everybody.

1094
00:52:07,291 --> 00:52:10,044
Um, I was very shocked to see
some of the scenes

1095
00:52:10,127 --> 00:52:13,130
that were shown
as far as the barbecue. Um...

1096
00:52:15,007 --> 00:52:18,802
That's not even the person
that I felt like I talked to in the pods.

1097
00:52:18,886 --> 00:52:21,764
[Vanessa] What about the person you dated
after the season wrapped?

1098
00:52:21,847 --> 00:52:24,558
Do you feel like you got pod Uche
or barbecue Uche?

1099
00:52:24,642 --> 00:52:26,226
-Mm, barbecue Uche.
-[Lydia] Mm-hmm.

1100
00:52:26,310 --> 00:52:28,312
-[Vanessa] When you were dating?
-[Aaliyah] Yes.

1101
00:52:28,395 --> 00:52:33,192
Uche was invited to the reunion today,
and he chose not to be a part of this.

1102
00:52:33,275 --> 00:52:34,610
So I'm just curious,

1103
00:52:35,819 --> 00:52:37,946
when was the last time
that any of you spoke to Uche?

1104
00:52:38,030 --> 00:52:40,407
Is anyone still involved
with Uche at this point?

1105
00:52:40,491 --> 00:52:42,451
-Not a fan.
-[Milton] He occasionally still texts.

1106
00:52:42,534 --> 00:52:44,370
He'll reach out.

1107
00:52:45,287 --> 00:52:47,581
No response. I won't respond to him.

1108
00:52:47,665 --> 00:52:50,042
-[Nick] Yeah.
-There's no purpose, no point.

1109
00:52:50,918 --> 00:52:52,795
[Izzy] I'm not really
too much of a fan of Uche.

1110
00:52:52,878 --> 00:52:54,838
I thought all of us guys at the pods,

1111
00:52:54,922 --> 00:52:59,551
we were super respectful
of our, you know, time there.

1112
00:53:00,010 --> 00:53:03,222
Um, but yeah, to some of the girls,
he would just, you know,

1113
00:53:03,847 --> 00:53:08,477
talk bad about me, which I was shocked,
'cause I thought we were cool.

1114
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:12,147
Obviously, I don't really give a shit,
and I don't really know the guy.

1115
00:53:12,231 --> 00:53:15,526
Um, but it's just like,
"What did I do to you?"

1116
00:53:15,609 --> 00:53:18,070
-So it's not surprising he's not here.
-[Vanessa] Yeah.

1117
00:53:18,153 --> 00:53:20,864
He did text me
the day that the show aired.

1118
00:53:21,490 --> 00:53:23,325
He texted me and said,

1119
00:53:24,243 --> 00:53:27,413
"Hey, I'm gonna watch later tonight."

1120
00:53:27,496 --> 00:53:31,375
"If there's anything that you want
to discuss that you hear, I'm available."

1121
00:53:31,458 --> 00:53:33,419
He sent me that exact same text.

1122
00:53:33,502 --> 00:53:36,130
-Oh. [chuckles]
-[Vanessa] The man is efficient.

1123
00:53:36,213 --> 00:53:38,590
-Oh, boy.
-[Lydia laughs]

1124
00:53:38,674 --> 00:53:40,592
[Vanessa] What did he send to you, Milton?

1125
00:53:40,676 --> 00:53:44,221
[Milton] Um, the day I got married, he...

1126
00:53:44,304 --> 00:53:47,850
It was, you know, it's my wedding day.
I'd just gotten married.

1127
00:53:47,933 --> 00:53:50,269
Like, having a text from Izzy,
like, "Bro, how'd it go?"

1128
00:53:50,352 --> 00:53:52,062
Makes sense. We talked every day.

1129
00:53:52,604 --> 00:53:55,941
Him, zero communication.
He texts me. He said, "Hey, man."

1130
00:53:56,692 --> 00:53:58,986
"Heard you got married.
Wanna talk about it?"

1131
00:54:00,070 --> 00:54:02,406
-[Izzy] That's creepy.
-Why's everyone need to talk about it?

1132
00:54:02,489 --> 00:54:05,951
[Milton] No, not really.
Again, I just didn't respond.

1133
00:54:06,034 --> 00:54:06,869
[Vanessa] Good man.

1134
00:54:06,952 --> 00:54:09,121
[Nick] And I wanna echo
what they said earlier about you.

1135
00:54:09,204 --> 00:54:12,791
I was just so taken aback
by the way you handled that situation.

1136
00:54:12,875 --> 00:54:15,878
I had so much respect for you,
and the man that you are...

1137
00:54:15,961 --> 00:54:19,423
Nick and I called each other. We're like,
"We're on different planes, baby."

1138
00:54:19,506 --> 00:54:20,507
[all laughing]

1139
00:54:20,591 --> 00:54:22,217
[Vanessa] "I'm over here. You're here."

1140
00:54:22,301 --> 00:54:25,262
It was like, "I'm not even gonna
give you my emotional self on this."

1141
00:54:25,345 --> 00:54:28,932
"I'm just gonna..." It was handled so well,
and I had so much respect for the way you...

1142
00:54:29,016 --> 00:54:30,017
Thank you.

1143
00:54:30,100 --> 00:54:31,977
Should we all close the Uche book now?

1144
00:54:32,060 --> 00:54:33,187
[Aaliyah] Please.

1145
00:54:33,270 --> 00:54:34,897
-Boom.
-[laughing]

1146
00:54:35,481 --> 00:54:37,357
[Vanessa] Aaliyah's like,
"I closed that book."

1147
00:54:37,441 --> 00:54:41,111
-A long time ago. [laughs]
-Good for you. Good for you.

1148
00:54:41,195 --> 00:54:43,989
Well, there was one more couple
who got engaged in the pods,

1149
00:54:44,072 --> 00:54:46,617
but didn't make it past the getaways.

1150
00:54:46,700 --> 00:54:50,788
It was in Mexico
that Taylor began to see JP's red,

1151
00:54:50,871 --> 00:54:52,664
white and blue flags.

1152
00:54:52,748 --> 00:54:55,584
Right now, let's welcome JP and Taylor.

1153
00:54:55,667 --> 00:54:56,585
[Johnie chuckles]

1154
00:54:58,545 --> 00:55:00,255
-Hey, buddy.
-Hi. Hey!

1155
00:55:00,339 --> 00:55:01,757
-Hey.
-[Izzy] Hey-hey.

1156
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:05,135
-Oh, baby. Meow.
-Wow, you look... hey-hey.

1157
00:55:05,219 --> 00:55:06,220
[Vanessa] Wow.

1158
00:55:06,303 --> 00:55:07,888
{\an8}-Hey, Taylor.
-Hi.

1159
00:55:07,971 --> 00:55:09,848
{\an8}[Vanessa] Golden goddess over here.

1160
00:55:09,932 --> 00:55:12,142
-[Stacy] Beautiful.
-[Milton] The socks. There they are.

1161
00:55:12,226 --> 00:55:13,060
Yeah, buddy.

1162
00:55:13,143 --> 00:55:17,105
{\an8}-[Vanessa] And of course, JP, on brand.
-[all laughing]

1163
00:55:17,189 --> 00:55:18,524
[Vanessa] Let me see the socks on.

1164
00:55:18,607 --> 00:55:21,360
-[Nick] The full sock. There you go.
-[Milton] Captain America himself.

1165
00:55:21,443 --> 00:55:24,363
-[all laughing]
-[Vanessa] Captain America, okay.

1166
00:55:24,988 --> 00:55:27,908
We're gonna take a quick look back
at your journey,

1167
00:55:27,991 --> 00:55:30,077
Taylor and JP, together.
Everyone have a look.

1168
00:55:33,455 --> 00:55:35,916
[JP, voice breaks] Love is something
I've been searching for.

1169
00:55:35,999 --> 00:55:38,418
Taylor McKinsey-Roo, will you marry me?

1170
00:55:38,502 --> 00:55:41,255
I will! [laughs]

1171
00:55:42,506 --> 00:55:44,049
Oh, my God.

1172
00:55:44,132 --> 00:55:46,134
[gasps] Sugar butt!

1173
00:55:46,218 --> 00:55:47,386
Hi.

1174
00:55:47,469 --> 00:55:48,846
[JP] How you doing?

1175
00:55:48,929 --> 00:55:50,931
[Taylor] Fiancé.

1176
00:55:51,014 --> 00:55:53,016
Fiancé. [laughs]

1177
00:55:53,100 --> 00:55:54,476
-[exhales]
-[chuckles]

1178
00:55:55,269 --> 00:55:57,020
I don't know
what we're supposed to do now.

1179
00:55:57,104 --> 00:55:58,063
[Taylor] Act normal.

1180
00:55:58,146 --> 00:55:59,982
Going out from talking at a wall

1181
00:56:00,065 --> 00:56:03,318
and then talking in person is,
like, completely different.

1182
00:56:03,986 --> 00:56:05,153
Do you agree?

1183
00:56:05,737 --> 00:56:06,655
Harder?

1184
00:56:06,738 --> 00:56:08,407
In more ways than one?

1185
00:56:09,700 --> 00:56:12,327
Do you think that you could sleep with me
for the rest of your life?

1186
00:56:12,411 --> 00:56:14,371
[laughing] I don't know.

1187
00:56:15,497 --> 00:56:19,376
So the way I looked
made you communicate differently?

1188
00:56:19,459 --> 00:56:21,587
I like you better without makeup.

1189
00:56:21,670 --> 00:56:23,589
You didn't know what I looked like before.

1190
00:56:23,672 --> 00:56:26,174
-But now I do.
-I'm gonna do what I wanna do.

1191
00:56:26,258 --> 00:56:28,427
Then wear makeup.
Do whatever the fuck you want.

1192
00:56:28,510 --> 00:56:29,970
-I don't care.
-So done with it.

1193
00:56:30,053 --> 00:56:31,513
The way I felt about you in the pods,

1194
00:56:31,597 --> 00:56:33,515
I could've spent
the rest of my life with you,

1195
00:56:33,599 --> 00:56:35,726
and here it's just completely different.

1196
00:56:35,809 --> 00:56:37,603
You're not the person I fell in love with.

1197
00:56:38,937 --> 00:56:40,022
I'm done.

1198
00:56:48,447 --> 00:56:50,449
So, JP, Taylor,

1199
00:56:50,532 --> 00:56:55,078
obviously you lived it,
but now you've had a chance to see it.

1200
00:56:55,162 --> 00:56:58,290
What was it like,
watching the show back for you two?

1201
00:56:59,207 --> 00:57:01,209
It was not fun. I'll tell you that.

1202
00:57:01,293 --> 00:57:06,590
It was, uh, hard going through it,
and it was even harder to watch.

1203
00:57:07,674 --> 00:57:09,217
[Vanessa] What was hard for you, JP?

1204
00:57:10,135 --> 00:57:11,345
Uh...

1205
00:57:11,887 --> 00:57:14,765
Just knowing that I probably
should have done more and then

1206
00:57:15,849 --> 00:57:17,184
I didn't know, like,

1207
00:57:18,602 --> 00:57:21,188
that I was gonna be, like, so nervous

1208
00:57:21,271 --> 00:57:24,441
when, like, cameras are, like,
right on your face 'cause, like,

1209
00:57:25,317 --> 00:57:27,444
when you're in the lounge and stuff,

1210
00:57:27,527 --> 00:57:30,322
they're, like, kind of off to the side,
so you don't really see 'em.

1211
00:57:30,405 --> 00:57:33,533
When you get to Mexico,
there's two cameras in the room.

1212
00:57:33,617 --> 00:57:35,702
And there's a bunch of people,
and you're just like,

1213
00:57:36,244 --> 00:57:38,080
"What are we supposed to do?" [chuckles]

1214
00:57:38,163 --> 00:57:40,415
Are you saying you feel like
you couldn't be yourself?

1215
00:57:40,499 --> 00:57:43,001
You would've acted differently
had the cameras not been...

1216
00:57:43,085 --> 00:57:44,962
Yeah, I just feel like I was

1217
00:57:46,004 --> 00:57:48,924
thrown back into my shell,
and I just didn't know what to do.

1218
00:57:49,007 --> 00:57:53,053
I was just... nervous and freaking out.

1219
00:57:53,136 --> 00:57:54,596
When the cameras weren't there?

1220
00:57:56,056 --> 00:57:59,559
I mean, it was still weird,
'cause like, what are we supposed to do?

1221
00:57:59,643 --> 00:58:01,103
We're just supposed to sit here?

1222
00:58:01,186 --> 00:58:03,480
We could have talked, communicated.

1223
00:58:04,815 --> 00:58:09,653
Yeah, but it was long days, and...
you didn't wanna be there anyway, so...

1224
00:58:10,237 --> 00:58:11,655
I didn't wanna be there?

1225
00:58:11,738 --> 00:58:14,908
-[JP] You tried to leave every single day.
-You did not wanna be there.

1226
00:58:14,992 --> 00:58:17,536
You wouldn't communicate with me.
You wouldn't talk to me.

1227
00:58:17,619 --> 00:58:20,163
-[JP] Okay.
-You just admitted you didn't try.

1228
00:58:20,247 --> 00:58:22,666
That was very clear.
Watching back, that was very clear.

1229
00:58:22,749 --> 00:58:24,292
-You did not try.
-[JP] Okay.

1230
00:58:25,711 --> 00:58:28,213
Are you buying his explanation
that it had to do with the cameras,

1231
00:58:28,296 --> 00:58:30,215
or you think it was something
deeper than that?

1232
00:58:30,298 --> 00:58:31,883
A lot deeper than that.

1233
00:58:31,967 --> 00:58:34,928
Sure, I was nervous too
with the cameras on. I'm sure we all were.

1234
00:58:35,012 --> 00:58:37,973
-[both] Mm-hmm
-[Taylor] But that's not an excuse.

1235
00:58:38,056 --> 00:58:41,393
I had a ring on my finger. We were
supposed to get married in three weeks,

1236
00:58:41,476 --> 00:58:43,687
and you're gonna let
the cameras ruin that?

1237
00:58:44,521 --> 00:58:48,150
Or my makeup or whatever else it was?

1238
00:58:49,484 --> 00:58:51,778
-[JP] Yeah.
-Not okay and it was hard watching back.

1239
00:58:53,655 --> 00:58:54,781
A lot of tears.

1240
00:58:55,907 --> 00:58:57,868
What was hard for you, Taylor?

1241
00:58:57,951 --> 00:58:59,703
'Cause I feel like I did try.

1242
00:59:00,454 --> 00:59:04,249
I, like, was basically
pulling things out of him in Mexico.

1243
00:59:05,584 --> 00:59:07,377
And it was still not enough.

1244
00:59:08,462 --> 00:59:12,424
That's not the way to get me to open up
is to keep hounding me,

1245
00:59:13,091 --> 00:59:15,927
saying, "Hey, this is awkward.
This is awkward. Do better."

1246
00:59:16,011 --> 00:59:18,722
-It's not the way to get me to open up.
-The conversation was the same.

1247
00:59:18,805 --> 00:59:21,933
I was trying
to, like, figure out what the problem was.

1248
00:59:22,017 --> 00:59:25,270
Well, apparently, it was my makeup
that threw him for a loop.

1249
00:59:25,854 --> 00:59:28,732
But you said you didn't believe
that it was just that. That it was more.

1250
00:59:28,815 --> 00:59:32,611
I don't think that he was attracted to me
from the second we met each other.

1251
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:35,906
Um, he gave me zero validation.

1252
00:59:35,989 --> 00:59:39,659
When I asked about our future,
as we saw, he didn't answer.

1253
00:59:40,327 --> 00:59:45,707
Um, and on top of that, you belittled me
and made me feel less than I am.

1254
00:59:47,501 --> 00:59:48,418
I'm sorry for that,

1255
00:59:48,502 --> 00:59:52,214
and I did not intend
for that to come out that way.

1256
00:59:52,297 --> 00:59:55,217
And it came out wrong,
and I do feel bad for that.

1257
00:59:55,801 --> 00:59:57,177
So I apologize.

1258
00:59:57,260 --> 01:00:00,013
I... genuinely wanted to just

1259
01:00:00,097 --> 01:00:02,933
let you know that I thought
you looked beautiful without makeup.

1260
01:00:03,016 --> 01:00:06,144
And that's the only thing I was trying
to say, and it came out wrong,

1261
01:00:06,228 --> 01:00:09,147
and I'm sorry, and... yeah.

1262
01:00:11,650 --> 01:00:13,276
I forgive you.

1263
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:15,028
-Thank you.
-[Taylor] We're human.

1264
01:00:15,112 --> 01:00:16,279
We make mistakes.

1265
01:00:17,989 --> 01:00:19,366
But learn from it.

1266
01:00:20,075 --> 01:00:21,660
Don't do that to another girl.

1267
01:00:24,037 --> 01:00:27,624
Uh, for you, Taylor,
you mentioned when you first saw him,

1268
01:00:27,707 --> 01:00:31,086
you were also very transparent, like,
"Look, he's got a gap in his teeth."

1269
01:00:31,169 --> 01:00:34,214
"I wouldn't normally go for that,
but I fell in love with this guy."

1270
01:00:34,297 --> 01:00:36,258
So do you think that as you got to Mexico,

1271
01:00:36,341 --> 01:00:38,718
his physical started
to kind of wear on you,

1272
01:00:38,802 --> 01:00:40,762
or that had nothing to do with it?

1273
01:00:40,846 --> 01:00:42,597
Nothing to do with it.

1274
01:00:42,681 --> 01:00:45,851
Like I said, past me,
being so self-critical,

1275
01:00:45,934 --> 01:00:50,480
I was also critical of other people,
so sure, I would have judged him

1276
01:00:50,564 --> 01:00:53,525
for some small flaw,
but that's why I came on the show

1277
01:00:53,608 --> 01:00:56,236
was to fall in love
with somebody emotionally.

1278
01:00:56,319 --> 01:00:58,864
And that's what I did,
but it just wasn't enough.

1279
01:00:59,739 --> 01:01:02,659
Well, JP, I don't wanna speak for you,
but I think you said

1280
01:01:02,742 --> 01:01:04,744
that what you were trying to say was,

1281
01:01:04,828 --> 01:01:06,997
"I think you're beautiful without makeup."

1282
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:10,917
-Yeah, it just came out wrong.
-[Nick] You said it in a way that was not...

1283
01:01:12,002 --> 01:01:13,295
not the smoothest.

1284
01:01:13,378 --> 01:01:19,259
Do you think that you were
not physically attracted to Taylor?

1285
01:01:20,343 --> 01:01:21,845
Definitely the first time I saw her,

1286
01:01:21,928 --> 01:01:25,056
it was a little shocking
and off-putting, but...

1287
01:01:25,849 --> 01:01:26,725
[Vanessa] Why is that?

1288
01:01:28,518 --> 01:01:31,313
[JP] I just think it's kind of fake, and

1289
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:35,567
not something that I generally like to...

1290
01:01:36,318 --> 01:01:38,028
-I don't know.
-[Vanessa] Does she...

1291
01:01:38,111 --> 01:01:39,905
-[Nick] Speaking of the makeup again?
-Yeah.

1292
01:01:40,989 --> 01:01:43,909
[Vanessa] Is she someone that you would
go hit on in a bar?

1293
01:01:45,202 --> 01:01:46,745
Uh, generally, I don't.

1294
01:01:47,495 --> 01:01:51,499
And any women,
I have my friends do that. [chuckles]

1295
01:01:51,583 --> 01:01:56,338
Like, they'll be the icebreaker
and then I'll get to talking after that,

1296
01:01:56,421 --> 01:01:58,673
but I'm not an icebreaker person,
so I don't...

1297
01:01:58,757 --> 01:02:00,926
[Vanessa] Does she look like
anyone you've ever dated?

1298
01:02:01,009 --> 01:02:02,260
Uh, maybe, yeah.

1299
01:02:04,304 --> 01:02:05,931
[Vanessa] Taylor, when you met him,

1300
01:02:06,014 --> 01:02:09,059
did you feel attracted to him
when you first saw him?

1301
01:02:09,142 --> 01:02:09,976
Yeah.

1302
01:02:10,060 --> 01:02:13,146
[Vanessa] What was your feeling
when you had that big red carpet reveal?

1303
01:02:13,230 --> 01:02:16,107
-Thank God he's tall. [laughs]
-[laughing]

1304
01:02:16,191 --> 01:02:18,026
-Is he tall?
-[Taylor] I was excited, nervous.

1305
01:02:18,109 --> 01:02:19,402
[all laughing]

1306
01:02:19,486 --> 01:02:21,780
-Well, he's not Milton tall.
-Nobody's Milton tall.

1307
01:02:21,863 --> 01:02:24,241
In his world, everybody's short,
but it's a different world.

1308
01:02:24,324 --> 01:02:25,533
[Taylor] Uh, I was excited.

1309
01:02:25,617 --> 01:02:28,995
And ready to, like, start the future.

1310
01:02:29,079 --> 01:02:33,083
Is this the first time that you two
have seen each other since that split?

1311
01:02:33,166 --> 01:02:34,626
-[JP] Yep.
-[Vanessa] Yeah.

1312
01:02:35,710 --> 01:02:37,462
-[Taylor] Yeah?
-[Vanessa] How you feeling?

1313
01:02:37,545 --> 01:02:39,506
[laughs, sniffles] Mm.

1314
01:02:40,340 --> 01:02:42,634
[clicks tongue] I'm okay.

1315
01:02:42,717 --> 01:02:44,344
-[Vanessa] Okay.
-[Taylor] Um...

1316
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:48,974
But like you said, I guess things
could have been handled differently.

1317
01:02:49,057 --> 01:02:52,978
If you would have told me, "Hey,
stop hounding me about the same thing,"

1318
01:02:54,271 --> 01:02:58,024
I probably would have, and I probably
would have gone about it a different way.

1319
01:02:58,108 --> 01:03:01,486
But I kept bringing it up
because it wasn't being fixed.

1320
01:03:01,569 --> 01:03:04,322
-[Aaliyah] Mm-hmm.
-I'm sorry I didn't.

1321
01:03:04,864 --> 01:03:06,992
I wasn't able to communicate that to you.

1322
01:03:08,785 --> 01:03:11,830
Are you two seeing anyone now?
Have you guys moved on?

1323
01:03:11,913 --> 01:03:14,958
-Are you in relationships?
-I've been dating a girl for about a year.

1324
01:03:16,918 --> 01:03:19,254
-[Vanessa] What about you, Taylor?
-I am seeing somebody.

1325
01:03:19,337 --> 01:03:21,381
Not dating, just seeing somebody. [laughs]

1326
01:03:22,048 --> 01:03:24,217
-Not official yet. Taking it slow.
-[Vanessa] Got it.

1327
01:03:24,301 --> 01:03:25,510
-Okay.
-[Taylor] Yeah.

1328
01:03:25,593 --> 01:03:29,431
And, JP, do you find that you're able to
communicate with your current girlfriend?

1329
01:03:29,514 --> 01:03:30,348
Yes.

1330
01:03:30,974 --> 01:03:34,227
I think that I learned a lot from it.

1331
01:03:34,311 --> 01:03:37,188
I'm sure he did too, and that's
what you do with failed relationships.

1332
01:03:37,272 --> 01:03:39,566
You learn from it
and take it into your next relationship.

1333
01:03:39,649 --> 01:03:44,321
And you do things differently.
So congratulations, I'm happy for you.

1334
01:03:44,404 --> 01:03:45,530
-Thank you.
-[Taylor] Yeah.

1335
01:03:45,613 --> 01:03:46,990
[Vanessa] Here's a little advice.

1336
01:03:47,073 --> 01:03:49,576
You guys were not here,
but don't go to the bars in Houston.

1337
01:03:49,659 --> 01:03:50,535
[laughing]

1338
01:03:50,618 --> 01:03:52,579
[Vanessa laughs]
Y'all will run into each other.

1339
01:03:52,662 --> 01:03:54,289
[Milton] Don't understand what's going on.

1340
01:03:54,372 --> 01:03:55,957
[Vanessa] It's time to have a little fun.

1341
01:03:56,041 --> 01:03:58,585
-Ooh!
-Everybody bring out your boards.

1342
01:03:59,794 --> 01:04:02,088
Now, we're gonna ask the group
some questions.

1343
01:04:02,172 --> 01:04:04,174
You'll write down your answers
on your board,

1344
01:04:04,257 --> 01:04:08,178
keeping them hidden before revealing them
one at a time to the entire group.

1345
01:04:08,261 --> 01:04:09,346
You guys ready?

1346
01:04:09,429 --> 01:04:10,680
-Yes. Hey!
-[Nick] Let's play!

1347
01:04:12,098 --> 01:04:15,477
Who would you have most likely hit on
in the real world?

1348
01:04:18,688 --> 01:04:21,816
Who would you have most likely hit on
in the real world? Start with Taylor.

1349
01:04:21,900 --> 01:04:22,942
-Chris.
-[Vanessa] Chris?

1350
01:04:23,026 --> 01:04:24,361
Yay!

1351
01:04:24,444 --> 01:04:25,570
[laughs]

1352
01:04:25,653 --> 01:04:26,696
[Vanessa and Nick] No one.

1353
01:04:26,780 --> 01:04:27,614
Sorry, guys.

1354
01:04:27,697 --> 01:04:28,823
[Izzy] Stacy.

1355
01:04:28,907 --> 01:04:30,700
-[laughing]
-Izzy.

1356
01:04:30,784 --> 01:04:32,202
Milton.

1357
01:04:33,995 --> 01:04:35,872
-[laughing]
-Chris.

1358
01:04:35,955 --> 01:04:36,956
Two.

1359
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:38,291
-Chris.
-[Izzy] Dawg.

1360
01:04:38,875 --> 01:04:41,503
-Milton. So tall.
-Oh, boy.

1361
01:04:41,586 --> 01:04:43,630
-I'm gonna go with no one.
-[Nick] Okay. All right.

1362
01:04:43,713 --> 01:04:44,798
[Johnie] Oh, man.

1363
01:04:44,881 --> 01:04:47,425
{\an8}-What does Miriam do for work?
-[all laughing]

1364
01:04:47,509 --> 01:04:49,010
{\an8}What if we don't know? [laughs]

1365
01:04:49,094 --> 01:04:51,930
-I got you, Miriam. I know your job.
-[Taylor] I don't know.

1366
01:04:52,889 --> 01:04:55,433
-[laughing] Sells stuff. I don't know.
-[Stacy] Sells stuff.

1367
01:04:55,517 --> 01:04:57,644
-[Taylor] She sells something.
-Scientist.

1368
01:04:57,727 --> 01:04:59,896
-[laughs]
-Skin care, question mark.

1369
01:04:59,979 --> 01:05:02,148
[chuckles] Scientist and entrepreneur.

1370
01:05:02,232 --> 01:05:03,191
I put chemist.

1371
01:05:04,609 --> 01:05:07,195
-Everything?
-[all laughing]

1372
01:05:07,278 --> 01:05:08,613
Chemist and sells lotion.

1373
01:05:08,696 --> 01:05:10,323
I put "Houstatlantavegas."

1374
01:05:10,407 --> 01:05:13,493
-[laughing]
-What? What does that say?

1375
01:05:13,576 --> 01:05:15,120
-"Houstatlantavegas."
-[Vanessa] Hashtag.

1376
01:05:15,203 --> 01:05:17,664
-I put science or something with skincare.
-[Vanessa] Okay.

1377
01:05:17,747 --> 01:05:19,040
You got that one.

1378
01:05:19,124 --> 01:05:20,041
Clear the boards.

1379
01:05:20,125 --> 01:05:25,130
What song sums up your experience
this season on <i>Love is Blind</i>?

1380
01:05:25,213 --> 01:05:26,756
-[muttering]
-[chuckling]

1381
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:29,175
If anyone needs the 98 Degrees
discography, let me know.

1382
01:05:29,259 --> 01:05:31,636
Unfortunately, I think
that came out before I was born.

1383
01:05:31,719 --> 01:05:33,721
-Oh!
-[laughing]

1384
01:05:34,889 --> 01:05:36,433
Uh, "the Sound of Silence."

1385
01:05:36,516 --> 01:05:37,809
[laughing]

1386
01:05:37,892 --> 01:05:39,686
"Quit Playing with My Heart,"
Backstreet Boys.

1387
01:05:39,769 --> 01:05:42,147
-[laughing]
-"Quit Playing <i>Games</i> with My Heart."

1388
01:05:42,230 --> 01:05:43,815
-It's been a minute.
-[Nick] All right.

1389
01:05:43,898 --> 01:05:45,692
I said "The 1" by Taylor Swift.

1390
01:05:45,775 --> 01:05:48,445
-But we had two, right?
-[laughing]

1391
01:05:48,528 --> 01:05:50,029
"Two Is Better Than One," Taylor Swift.

1392
01:05:50,613 --> 01:05:53,074
-"99 Problems."
-[cheering]

1393
01:05:53,158 --> 01:05:54,033
[Aaliyah] Oh, my God.

1394
01:05:54,117 --> 01:05:55,660
-That's good.
-[Taylor] That is good.

1395
01:05:55,743 --> 01:05:57,537
-"Crazy in Love" by Beyoncé.
-[Nick] Oh!

1396
01:05:57,620 --> 01:05:59,998
[Vanessa] Oh! That's good. I like this.

1397
01:06:00,540 --> 01:06:03,877
-"My Love Don't Cost a Thing." J.Lo.
-[all laughing]

1398
01:06:05,545 --> 01:06:08,256
-"Hot N Cold" by Katy Perry.
-[all laughing]

1399
01:06:08,339 --> 01:06:09,507
This is a good one.

1400
01:06:09,591 --> 01:06:11,676
-"Thank U, Next."
-Hey!

1401
01:06:11,759 --> 01:06:13,303
[Taylor] "Silent Night."

1402
01:06:13,386 --> 01:06:15,555
-[laughing]
-[Stacy] The Christmas song?

1403
01:06:15,638 --> 01:06:17,724
[Nick] I like that both
had a sense of humor about it.

1404
01:06:17,807 --> 01:06:20,059
-Oh, I get it.
-Guys, good job.

1405
01:06:20,143 --> 01:06:22,979
-Did I win?
-Appreciate you guys all playing.

1406
01:06:23,062 --> 01:06:25,148
And for anyone wanting to know
what it's like to be

1407
01:06:25,231 --> 01:06:28,610
one of our singles on <i>Love is Blind</i>,
just download the <i>Love is Blind</i> game

1408
01:06:28,693 --> 01:06:31,279
on the Netflix mobile app
and join in the fun.

1409
01:06:31,362 --> 01:06:34,866
Thank you guys so much for being here,

1410
01:06:34,949 --> 01:06:37,744
for opening up, for letting
us catch up with you. We just...

1411
01:06:37,827 --> 01:06:40,914
Nick and I truly appreciate it.
And I know the viewers at home do as well.

1412
01:06:40,997 --> 01:06:43,500
Yeah, this has certainly been
a season to remember.

1413
01:06:43,583 --> 01:06:45,752
What a journey you guys have all been on,

1414
01:06:45,835 --> 01:06:48,171
and we really appreciate
you sharing it all with us.

1415
01:06:48,254 --> 01:06:49,672
Uh, and to Lydia and Milton,

1416
01:06:49,756 --> 01:06:52,550
here's to proving
that love truly wins in the end.

1417
01:06:52,634 --> 01:06:54,928
-Congrats again, guys.
-[Vanessa] Congratulations.

1418
01:06:55,011 --> 01:06:56,930
Here's to finding love
and celebrating love.

1419
01:06:57,013 --> 01:06:58,681
-Take care, everyone. [kisses]
-Bye.

1420
01:06:58,765 --> 01:07:00,266
[Taylor] Yes!

1421
01:07:01,059 --> 01:07:03,061
-[chattering]
-[dance music playing]

1422
01:07:05,813 --> 01:07:09,442
<i>♪ Better be mine, be mine tonight... ♪</i>

1423
01:07:09,526 --> 01:07:11,236
Oh, you're so amazing.

1424
01:07:11,319 --> 01:07:13,613
[chattering]

1425
01:07:13,696 --> 01:07:15,198
<i>♪ Will you be mine? ♪</i>

1426
01:07:15,281 --> 01:07:18,743
<i>♪ 'Cause it feels so nice
To know you're by my side... ♪</i>

1427
01:07:18,826 --> 01:07:20,286
[Milton] Haven't seen you in forever.

1428
01:07:21,037 --> 01:07:23,164
-You have such good taste.
-[Taylor laughs] I love it.

1429
01:07:24,374 --> 01:07:26,084
Thank you. You look so nice.

1430
01:07:26,167 --> 01:07:27,794
-I love this color.
-[Vanessa] Thank you.

1431
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:31,047
-[Izzy] Thank you.
-Congrats, my man.