1 00:00:02,836 --> 00:00:03,879 Are you trying to scare me? 2 00:00:08,634 --> 00:00:10,218 "Yes." 3 00:00:10,219 --> 00:00:11,303 - [distant thud] - [gasps] 4 00:00:12,554 --> 00:00:15,014 [Josh] On this episode of "Expedition X"... 5 00:00:15,015 --> 00:00:16,057 [Heather] There's a building. 6 00:00:16,058 --> 00:00:17,100 [Phil] This is so weird! 7 00:00:18,393 --> 00:00:20,521 [Josh] My team continues their investigation 8 00:00:20,646 --> 00:00:22,397 into the terrors of Trinidad. 9 00:00:22,523 --> 00:00:25,025 Is Obeah capable of manifesting 10 00:00:25,150 --> 00:00:26,401 something like a soucouyant? 11 00:00:26,527 --> 00:00:27,778 [Papa Dogood speaking] 12 00:00:31,406 --> 00:00:32,949 [Josh] A group of high school girls 13 00:00:32,950 --> 00:00:35,619 report being possessed by demons... 14 00:00:45,087 --> 00:00:47,088 [Josh] ...leading Heather and Phil to investigate 15 00:00:47,089 --> 00:00:50,425 the island's secretive and mysterious religion. 16 00:00:50,551 --> 00:00:51,801 [Phil] Oh, my God! Look at this. 17 00:00:51,802 --> 00:00:53,095 - Jawbone. - [Heather] Are you serious? 18 00:00:53,220 --> 00:00:55,055 - [Phil] And a candle. - [Heather] Oh, my God! 19 00:00:55,180 --> 00:00:58,016 [Josh] As they confront the curses of the Caribbean. 20 00:01:00,060 --> 00:01:01,728 [theme song plays] 21 00:01:07,359 --> 00:01:10,319 So far, my team's trip to Trinidad has revealed 22 00:01:10,320 --> 00:01:11,572 a very bright culture... 23 00:01:14,241 --> 00:01:15,576 [Josh] ...with a very dark past. 24 00:01:19,955 --> 00:01:21,455 [chains rattling] 25 00:01:21,456 --> 00:01:23,791 [Josh] Phil and Heather investigated stunning claims 26 00:01:23,792 --> 00:01:26,252 of unique evil entities, 27 00:01:26,253 --> 00:01:29,089 like the sinister childlike "douens." 28 00:01:29,214 --> 00:01:31,174 [Donna speaking] 29 00:01:37,014 --> 00:01:38,598 [Phil] Look at that. 30 00:01:38,599 --> 00:01:40,809 That looks like a child's footprint. 31 00:01:40,934 --> 00:01:43,895 [Josh] And the soul-sucking soucouyants. 32 00:01:50,444 --> 00:01:51,445 [Heather] Are you a soucouyant? 33 00:01:54,865 --> 00:01:57,700 [Josh] The activity led them to one of the deadliest islands 34 00:01:57,701 --> 00:01:59,201 in all of the Caribbean... 35 00:01:59,202 --> 00:02:01,037 That's not creepy at all. 36 00:02:01,038 --> 00:02:02,288 [Phil] Oh, my gosh. 37 00:02:02,289 --> 00:02:05,626 [Josh] ...Chacachacare, an abandoned leper colony where 38 00:02:05,751 --> 00:02:08,294 the flora and fauna are even more frightening 39 00:02:08,295 --> 00:02:09,462 than the ghosts. 40 00:02:09,463 --> 00:02:10,796 [Phil] Wait, wait. 41 00:02:10,797 --> 00:02:13,132 This is the manchineel tree, the death tree. 42 00:02:13,133 --> 00:02:14,676 Everything about this thing is toxic. 43 00:02:14,801 --> 00:02:16,719 If you eat that fruit, you die. 44 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,931 If you burn its wood, the smoke will blind you. 45 00:02:41,411 --> 00:02:44,039 [Josh] Heather believes something deliberately lured Phil 46 00:02:44,164 --> 00:02:46,708 into danger in the decaying dormitory. 47 00:02:46,833 --> 00:02:48,501 [Heather] Look at the ground. 48 00:02:48,502 --> 00:02:49,919 Whatever that noise is, 49 00:02:49,920 --> 00:02:52,881 it literally took you to very dangerous ground. 50 00:02:53,340 --> 00:02:55,092 - [loud bang] - [Heather and Phil yelling] 51 00:02:55,759 --> 00:02:57,511 [Phil] That was under the house. We gotta get down there. 52 00:02:57,636 --> 00:02:58,886 Let's go. 53 00:02:58,887 --> 00:03:01,223 [Josh] And it may not be finished with him yet. 54 00:03:01,348 --> 00:03:04,266 You are literally underneath a crumbling building. 55 00:03:04,267 --> 00:03:05,644 All right, I'm moving. 56 00:03:07,270 --> 00:03:09,271 [Phil coughs heavily] 57 00:03:09,272 --> 00:03:10,524 [choking] 58 00:03:10,649 --> 00:03:12,526 [Heather] You need some water? 59 00:03:12,651 --> 00:03:14,444 [coughing] 60 00:03:19,366 --> 00:03:20,367 [Heather] Are you OK? 61 00:03:21,952 --> 00:03:23,577 Yeah, water, water. 62 00:03:23,578 --> 00:03:24,663 [Heather] Here. 63 00:03:27,541 --> 00:03:28,542 You good? 64 00:03:30,502 --> 00:03:31,753 [Phil coughs] 65 00:03:31,878 --> 00:03:32,879 Yeah, I think so. 66 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:35,590 - What just happened? - [Phil] I don't know. 67 00:03:36,633 --> 00:03:38,635 It just felt like my throat was closing. 68 00:03:40,637 --> 00:03:43,890 I've had reactions like that before to something like 69 00:03:44,015 --> 00:03:45,975 peanuts that I'm allergic to, but I've never had a wave 70 00:03:45,976 --> 00:03:47,978 hit me so strong, 71 00:03:49,020 --> 00:03:51,231 and now it's just dissipating. 72 00:03:51,356 --> 00:03:52,398 Oh, no. 73 00:03:52,399 --> 00:03:55,776 I mean, we were under the manchineel trees 74 00:03:55,777 --> 00:03:56,778 for a long time. 75 00:03:58,029 --> 00:03:59,739 Maybe there's a delayed reaction to that. 76 00:03:59,740 --> 00:04:00,823 Yeah, but I feel like 77 00:04:00,824 --> 00:04:01,783 they would be affecting me as well. 78 00:04:01,908 --> 00:04:03,492 I mean, everybody's gonna react differently 79 00:04:03,493 --> 00:04:04,827 to those things. 80 00:04:04,828 --> 00:04:06,747 You were literally underneath the building where those 81 00:04:06,872 --> 00:04:08,957 soldiers felt like they were being choked, and now 82 00:04:09,082 --> 00:04:11,417 you're telling me you couldn't breathe. 83 00:04:11,418 --> 00:04:13,253 Oh, my God. 84 00:04:13,378 --> 00:04:16,005 I mean, they all claimed they felt physical hands 85 00:04:16,006 --> 00:04:17,173 on them. 86 00:04:17,174 --> 00:04:18,759 I can't necessarily say I felt that. 87 00:04:18,884 --> 00:04:20,634 But you felt the sensation of choking? 88 00:04:20,635 --> 00:04:22,803 Yeah. Pretty damn close. 89 00:04:22,804 --> 00:04:24,514 But not seeing any 90 00:04:25,682 --> 00:04:26,975 dark cloaked figure around. 91 00:04:28,059 --> 00:04:29,978 I did see a lot of poisonous trees. 92 00:04:31,104 --> 00:04:32,189 So by my money, 93 00:04:33,231 --> 00:04:36,025 that's what it is. - Agree to disagree. 94 00:04:36,026 --> 00:04:37,276 [Phil coughs] 95 00:04:37,277 --> 00:04:38,986 - [Heather] You feeling better? - [Phil] Feeling better now. 96 00:04:38,987 --> 00:04:40,947 I think I'm going to be OK. 97 00:04:41,072 --> 00:04:43,450 Convinced it was the environment affecting me, 98 00:04:43,575 --> 00:04:45,494 I want to investigate the old hospital, 99 00:04:45,619 --> 00:04:49,456 the place where countless lepers tragically died. 100 00:04:49,581 --> 00:04:52,292 Inexplicable choking has been reported there, too, 101 00:04:52,417 --> 00:04:56,837 and I wonder if the same toxic trees could be the real cause. 102 00:04:56,838 --> 00:05:00,509 Meanwhile, Heather is heading to the chapel, another location 103 00:05:00,634 --> 00:05:02,302 of so-called "paranormal attacks." 104 00:05:07,724 --> 00:05:10,644 First thing I'm going to do is look down, because this island 105 00:05:10,769 --> 00:05:13,647 is full of very venomous scorpions. 106 00:05:13,772 --> 00:05:16,398 It is time to shine. 107 00:05:16,399 --> 00:05:17,984 They glow under UV light. 108 00:05:20,612 --> 00:05:22,822 Oh, my God, look at that, right away. 109 00:05:22,823 --> 00:05:24,699 [chuckles] 110 00:05:24,825 --> 00:05:26,075 Scorpion one. 111 00:05:26,076 --> 00:05:30,371 So that is the Trinidad thick-tailed scorpion. 112 00:05:30,372 --> 00:05:33,375 They're one of the most venomous in all of Central 113 00:05:33,500 --> 00:05:34,876 and South America. 114 00:05:35,001 --> 00:05:40,047 About one in 50 people die when they get stung by this. 115 00:05:40,048 --> 00:05:42,884 Finding one right away? They're probably everywhere. 116 00:05:43,009 --> 00:05:45,011 [ominous chord rises] 117 00:05:52,352 --> 00:05:54,187 [Heather] This is definitely creepy. 118 00:06:01,111 --> 00:06:02,153 Oh, this must be the chapel. 119 00:06:04,239 --> 00:06:05,657 [gasps softly] 120 00:06:07,909 --> 00:06:09,452 [rustling] 121 00:06:15,333 --> 00:06:18,211 [whispering] OK. It's all just crumbling. 122 00:06:20,797 --> 00:06:21,923 Look at those floorboards. 123 00:06:23,758 --> 00:06:25,594 Literally falling in. 124 00:06:25,719 --> 00:06:27,596 I mean, there's open sky there. 125 00:06:27,721 --> 00:06:29,264 Let's be careful where we walk under. 126 00:06:31,391 --> 00:06:34,894 This is where a young girl saw a hooded shadow figure, 127 00:06:34,895 --> 00:06:36,479 where she was physically choked. 128 00:06:38,273 --> 00:06:39,941 And whatever just choked Phil, 129 00:06:41,276 --> 00:06:42,652 I wonder if it's all the same thing. 130 00:06:45,739 --> 00:06:47,407 Witnesses have repeatedly described 131 00:06:47,532 --> 00:06:49,618 a dark-hooded woman during their choking fits, 132 00:06:49,743 --> 00:06:51,118 strong evidence that 133 00:06:51,119 --> 00:06:53,288 a soucouyant may be behind the attacks. 134 00:06:54,664 --> 00:06:57,333 If that's the case, I need to protect myself 135 00:06:57,334 --> 00:06:59,793 before trying to communicate with it. 136 00:06:59,794 --> 00:07:02,630 I say a prayer to St. Michael, who defends believers from 137 00:07:02,631 --> 00:07:04,173 the devil and his minions. 138 00:07:04,174 --> 00:07:07,426 St. Michael, the archangel, defend us in battle. 139 00:07:07,427 --> 00:07:10,679 And, following Neigeme's advice, I also lay out salt 140 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,391 to distract any evil spirits. 141 00:07:22,442 --> 00:07:23,485 [Heather] I'll choose a pendulum. 142 00:07:26,154 --> 00:07:28,198 I invite those spirits, 143 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:30,784 those creatures, those entities 144 00:07:31,910 --> 00:07:33,703 to communicate with me through this pendulum. 145 00:07:36,414 --> 00:07:39,709 This pendulum will move in this direction for "yes," 146 00:07:40,835 --> 00:07:41,795 this direction for "no." 147 00:07:44,297 --> 00:07:46,257 If there's anyone here with me, can you say yes? 148 00:07:50,971 --> 00:07:51,972 "Yes." 149 00:07:53,306 --> 00:07:54,307 Thank you. 150 00:07:55,976 --> 00:07:56,977 Are you a jumbee? 151 00:08:01,856 --> 00:08:02,857 Are you a douen? 152 00:08:05,110 --> 00:08:06,111 Big no. 153 00:08:10,448 --> 00:08:12,158 Is it a soucouyant I need to be worried about? 154 00:08:16,037 --> 00:08:17,038 "Yes." 155 00:08:18,498 --> 00:08:19,666 Big yes. 156 00:08:20,834 --> 00:08:22,711 [distant dragging noises] 157 00:08:27,340 --> 00:08:28,717 Did you hear that? 158 00:08:30,427 --> 00:08:32,345 [Heather] There is nothing above me, 159 00:08:32,470 --> 00:08:34,222 and I swear I just heard a sound above me. 160 00:08:35,306 --> 00:08:36,516 It sounded like footsteps. 161 00:08:39,227 --> 00:08:40,395 Are you above me right now? 162 00:08:44,858 --> 00:08:46,693 [sighs] "Yes." 163 00:08:48,028 --> 00:08:49,237 We're definitely not alone. 164 00:08:53,324 --> 00:08:54,325 Are you trying to scare me? 165 00:08:59,122 --> 00:09:00,123 "Yes." 166 00:09:02,751 --> 00:09:04,085 - [heavy slam] - [Heather gasps] 167 00:09:06,838 --> 00:09:08,423 What was that? 168 00:09:12,385 --> 00:09:13,386 I think that was the shutter. 169 00:09:15,013 --> 00:09:16,388 This shutter was in the window 170 00:09:16,389 --> 00:09:17,766 when we first entered the chapel. 171 00:09:19,601 --> 00:09:21,393 That is heavy. 172 00:09:21,394 --> 00:09:23,062 That's... 173 00:09:23,063 --> 00:09:24,939 so heavy. 174 00:09:25,065 --> 00:09:27,317 That did not take some light force. 175 00:09:29,444 --> 00:09:31,153 That's insane. 176 00:09:31,154 --> 00:09:34,239 I was asking, "is something trying to scare me?" 177 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,242 And then that happened. 178 00:09:36,367 --> 00:09:37,744 It's wild. 179 00:09:39,913 --> 00:09:41,623 [insects noises] 180 00:09:44,667 --> 00:09:46,335 [Phil] Oh! 181 00:09:46,336 --> 00:09:47,337 What is this? 182 00:09:49,506 --> 00:09:50,673 There's a building here. 183 00:09:52,634 --> 00:09:55,177 This must be the leper hospital. 184 00:09:55,178 --> 00:09:56,679 There could be some animal living in here. 185 00:09:58,598 --> 00:09:59,808 Oh, boy. 186 00:09:59,933 --> 00:10:03,269 Look, we are underneath another manchineel tree right now. 187 00:10:03,394 --> 00:10:06,855 The most poisonous tree in the natural world. 188 00:10:06,856 --> 00:10:08,774 That is a manchineel tree. 189 00:10:08,775 --> 00:10:10,819 This is a manchineel tree. 190 00:10:10,944 --> 00:10:12,486 This one is. 191 00:10:12,487 --> 00:10:15,490 They're everywhere above us. 192 00:10:15,615 --> 00:10:17,449 You can smell the fruit. 193 00:10:17,450 --> 00:10:19,284 I don't know if it's just my imagination. 194 00:10:19,285 --> 00:10:20,411 My eyes are... 195 00:10:21,412 --> 00:10:23,330 starting to burn a little bit, and I'm wondering 196 00:10:23,331 --> 00:10:24,499 if it's from the tree. 197 00:10:28,878 --> 00:10:29,838 [Heather] I'm not leaving. 198 00:10:29,963 --> 00:10:31,547 I'm trying to understand this activity. 199 00:10:31,548 --> 00:10:32,966 I'm trying to understand what's going on. 200 00:10:34,968 --> 00:10:37,846 Was that you that ripped the shutter off its hinges? 201 00:10:41,474 --> 00:10:42,475 "Yes." 202 00:10:44,727 --> 00:10:46,020 Are we welcome on this island? 203 00:10:51,776 --> 00:10:52,777 "No." 204 00:10:54,821 --> 00:10:56,781 Is that why something tried to harm Phil earlier? 205 00:11:02,829 --> 00:11:03,830 "Yes." 206 00:11:06,124 --> 00:11:07,667 Is Phil in danger? 207 00:11:14,007 --> 00:11:15,258 "Yes." 208 00:11:20,471 --> 00:11:21,681 [Phil] Whoa! 209 00:11:22,807 --> 00:11:24,184 Look at this place. 210 00:11:25,768 --> 00:11:28,938 I found very often that structures made by humans 211 00:11:29,939 --> 00:11:33,525 can sometimes end up being perfect homes for things 212 00:11:33,526 --> 00:11:34,736 that could surprise you. 213 00:11:43,536 --> 00:11:44,537 Whoa. 214 00:11:46,831 --> 00:11:48,248 I just got goosebumps. 215 00:11:48,249 --> 00:11:49,375 Look. 216 00:11:51,669 --> 00:11:54,963 When I was laying on the ground in the Coast Guard dormitory, 217 00:11:54,964 --> 00:11:57,550 Heather told me to say out loud what I was seeing in my head, 218 00:11:57,675 --> 00:11:59,052 It was this. 219 00:11:59,177 --> 00:12:02,721 I keep getting this image of a square hole in the wall. 220 00:12:02,722 --> 00:12:04,724 I don't know why that keeps popping in my head. 221 00:12:05,892 --> 00:12:08,269 I assumed it was in a wall across from me, 222 00:12:08,394 --> 00:12:10,812 but it could just as easily have been on the ground. 223 00:12:10,813 --> 00:12:12,773 This is so weird. 224 00:12:12,774 --> 00:12:15,984 Why did I see that? 225 00:12:15,985 --> 00:12:17,904 Maybe I'm supposed to go in here. 226 00:12:19,239 --> 00:12:20,782 I don't even know what this room was used for. 227 00:12:24,244 --> 00:12:25,787 Is there anything in this hole? 228 00:12:29,249 --> 00:12:30,416 - [wood snapping] - [Phil grunts] 229 00:12:30,541 --> 00:12:31,750 Oh! 230 00:12:31,751 --> 00:12:33,211 Oh, my God. 231 00:12:37,966 --> 00:12:39,466 [mysterious music plays] 232 00:12:39,467 --> 00:12:41,386 Oh, my God! 233 00:12:43,638 --> 00:12:44,764 [Phil] I think so. 234 00:12:45,765 --> 00:12:46,933 [grunts] 235 00:12:47,058 --> 00:12:49,017 All right. 236 00:12:49,018 --> 00:12:50,602 Whoo! 237 00:12:50,603 --> 00:12:54,107 That was rough. 238 00:12:54,232 --> 00:12:55,649 OK. 239 00:12:55,650 --> 00:12:56,651 Wow! 240 00:12:58,569 --> 00:13:00,362 I just fell through the floorboard. 241 00:13:00,363 --> 00:13:01,698 Like, what the hell? 242 00:13:03,116 --> 00:13:06,160 This place kind of has it out for me. 243 00:13:06,286 --> 00:13:07,829 You know what Heather's going to say? 244 00:13:07,954 --> 00:13:09,997 "It was a trap." 245 00:13:09,998 --> 00:13:12,625 In this case, that sure felt like a trap. 246 00:13:15,044 --> 00:13:16,254 [exhales] 247 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:20,299 [Heather] Phil, you OK? 248 00:13:20,300 --> 00:13:21,550 [Phil] A little sore. 249 00:13:21,551 --> 00:13:24,219 I can explain that later. What's going on with you? 250 00:13:24,220 --> 00:13:26,471 [Heather] Look, I've definitely been communicating with something, 251 00:13:26,472 --> 00:13:28,640 and it told me you were in danger. 252 00:13:28,641 --> 00:13:30,143 [Phil] No way! 253 00:13:30,268 --> 00:13:31,727 Heather, 254 00:13:31,728 --> 00:13:33,145 I just fell through a damn floorboard. 255 00:13:33,146 --> 00:13:34,813 [Heather] Are you kidding me? 256 00:13:34,814 --> 00:13:37,525 [Phil] And now you were calling me to say you got a message 257 00:13:37,650 --> 00:13:39,485 that I was in danger? - Yes. 258 00:13:39,610 --> 00:13:41,153 I think we're safer together. 259 00:13:41,154 --> 00:13:43,322 In this case, I think I'm starting to agree with you. 260 00:13:43,323 --> 00:13:44,906 Are you still in the chapel? 261 00:13:44,907 --> 00:13:46,366 Yeah, I think you should head my way. 262 00:13:46,367 --> 00:13:48,161 [Phil] OK, I'll meet you there. 263 00:13:48,286 --> 00:13:49,537 Copy that. 264 00:13:49,662 --> 00:13:51,331 [suspenseful music plays] 265 00:13:55,168 --> 00:13:57,210 [Phil] Hey. 266 00:13:57,211 --> 00:13:59,212 - [Heather] You OK? - Yeah. 267 00:13:59,213 --> 00:14:00,882 You fell through a floorboard? 268 00:14:01,007 --> 00:14:02,424 I mean, you're not gonna believe it. 269 00:14:02,425 --> 00:14:04,593 Remember what I told you I saw when I was laying down 270 00:14:04,594 --> 00:14:06,386 and you told me to clear my mind? 271 00:14:06,387 --> 00:14:08,056 [Heather] Yeah, something through the wall. 272 00:14:08,181 --> 00:14:09,431 [Phil] I thought it was a wall. 273 00:14:09,432 --> 00:14:10,849 I came across a building back there, 274 00:14:10,850 --> 00:14:12,559 and I realized it was 275 00:14:12,560 --> 00:14:16,563 the exact same square cut out into a floor. 276 00:14:16,564 --> 00:14:17,690 [Heather] No way. 277 00:14:17,815 --> 00:14:19,859 I walk in there, try to figure what's in that hole, 278 00:14:19,984 --> 00:14:22,694 and boom, foot falls right through a floorboard. 279 00:14:22,695 --> 00:14:23,863 I'm down. 280 00:14:23,988 --> 00:14:27,241 That's the third time you were lured into danger. 281 00:14:27,367 --> 00:14:29,242 I knew she was gonna say that. 282 00:14:29,243 --> 00:14:32,454 Yeah, according to whoever I was communicating with, 283 00:14:32,455 --> 00:14:33,955 we're not welcome here. 284 00:14:33,956 --> 00:14:35,375 [Phil] Well, I admit most of time 285 00:14:35,500 --> 00:14:37,043 I feel pretty welcome in the jungle. 286 00:14:37,168 --> 00:14:38,711 Right now, I'm not so sure about this place. 287 00:14:38,836 --> 00:14:42,589 Well, clearly, there is a lot going on here. 288 00:14:42,590 --> 00:14:45,884 And if Obeah is at the heart of it all, we need to regroup 289 00:14:45,885 --> 00:14:48,721 and learn as much as we possibly can about it. 290 00:14:48,846 --> 00:14:49,847 - Let's go. - [Phil] OK. 291 00:14:50,932 --> 00:14:52,016 [blows] 292 00:14:54,477 --> 00:14:56,062 [Phil] With Heather certain that Obeah 293 00:14:56,187 --> 00:14:58,397 is somehow shaping the activity here, 294 00:14:58,398 --> 00:15:00,816 we head back to the mainland to learn more 295 00:15:00,817 --> 00:15:02,734 about this secretive religion. 296 00:15:02,735 --> 00:15:05,947 But first, it's time to update Josh on our findings. 297 00:15:08,366 --> 00:15:10,118 There are my castaways. 298 00:15:10,243 --> 00:15:11,952 So how's the most haunted island 299 00:15:11,953 --> 00:15:14,455 of the most haunted island in the Caribbean? 300 00:15:14,580 --> 00:15:16,791 Well, something almost choked Phil to death. 301 00:15:16,916 --> 00:15:20,460 Yes, I was choking, but to be fair to me and my larynx, 302 00:15:20,461 --> 00:15:22,754 I was at the time surrounded by toxic trees 303 00:15:22,755 --> 00:15:25,299 known to cause swelling of the throat. 304 00:15:25,425 --> 00:15:27,426 And these trees are also known to cause visions 305 00:15:27,427 --> 00:15:28,636 and communicate threats. 306 00:15:28,761 --> 00:15:30,178 Well, that part wasn't in my botany guide. 307 00:15:30,179 --> 00:15:31,847 - [Heather laughs] - Wait, what? 308 00:15:31,848 --> 00:15:33,474 Are you saying you think the island was trying 309 00:15:33,599 --> 00:15:35,267 to communicate with you guys? 310 00:15:35,268 --> 00:15:38,271 [Heather] Yeah, something identified itself as a soucouyant, 311 00:15:38,396 --> 00:15:40,481 which is an Obeah woman that made a deal with the devil. 312 00:15:40,606 --> 00:15:41,649 Honestly, I feel like 313 00:15:41,774 --> 00:15:43,943 I have to find an Obeah practitioner to really 314 00:15:44,068 --> 00:15:45,944 understand the activity going on here. 315 00:15:45,945 --> 00:15:48,781 Well, if that's the case, I have just the place for you. 316 00:15:48,906 --> 00:15:51,325 There is a remote village there called Moruga, 317 00:15:51,451 --> 00:15:54,494 that is considered the capital of Obeah. 318 00:15:54,495 --> 00:15:55,788 And there are reports of 319 00:15:55,913 --> 00:15:58,499 some very disturbing paranormal activity, 320 00:15:58,624 --> 00:16:02,669 including, get this, a mass demonic possession 321 00:16:02,670 --> 00:16:04,463 at the local high school. 322 00:16:04,464 --> 00:16:06,631 That is a seriously shocking claim. 323 00:16:06,632 --> 00:16:08,176 Are there any witnesses to this? 324 00:16:08,301 --> 00:16:10,177 Witnesses? Oh, yeah. 325 00:16:10,178 --> 00:16:12,180 This was all over the news. Check this out. 326 00:16:13,264 --> 00:16:16,142 [reporter speaking] 327 00:16:48,424 --> 00:16:50,551 Wow. That is next level serious. 328 00:16:50,676 --> 00:16:51,718 Are there any witnesses 329 00:16:51,719 --> 00:16:53,386 willing to actually talk about this? 330 00:16:53,387 --> 00:16:56,348 Look, Obeah is considered very, very dangerous by a lot 331 00:16:56,349 --> 00:16:59,393 of people in Moruga, so much so that getting anyone to agree 332 00:16:59,519 --> 00:17:02,938 to go on camera to talk about it has been a huge challenge. 333 00:17:02,939 --> 00:17:06,067 But I have managed to lock down one of the students that was 334 00:17:06,192 --> 00:17:08,528 actually hospitalized in this reported attack, 335 00:17:08,653 --> 00:17:10,737 as well as a current school teacher. 336 00:17:10,738 --> 00:17:12,740 That's huge. Let's head to Moruga now. 337 00:17:12,865 --> 00:17:13,949 And, Josh, while we're heading down there, 338 00:17:13,950 --> 00:17:15,534 can you try and lock down some people who know 339 00:17:15,535 --> 00:17:17,036 more about the Obeah faith itself? 340 00:17:17,161 --> 00:17:18,453 For sure, I will look into it. 341 00:17:18,454 --> 00:17:21,373 But listen, guys, be really careful out there. 342 00:17:21,374 --> 00:17:24,210 There are really strong beliefs around Obeah. 343 00:17:24,335 --> 00:17:26,920 Folks think that it is extremely powerful. 344 00:17:26,921 --> 00:17:28,088 So tread carefully. 345 00:17:28,089 --> 00:17:30,925 You are headed into the eye of the tropical storm. 346 00:17:31,050 --> 00:17:32,134 OK. We'll be careful. 347 00:17:33,553 --> 00:17:36,596 It's a three hour drive from Port of Spain to the remote 348 00:17:36,597 --> 00:17:38,932 village of Moruga, a route 349 00:17:38,933 --> 00:17:41,602 that cuts through miles of rugged jungle roads. 350 00:17:43,729 --> 00:17:44,730 [Phil] That's the school. 351 00:17:45,189 --> 00:17:46,399 Let's see what they have to say. 352 00:17:46,524 --> 00:17:47,649 [Phil] Yeah. 353 00:17:47,650 --> 00:17:49,776 We're meeting teacher Lee-Anna Boyce 354 00:17:49,777 --> 00:17:51,779 and former student Whitney Khan, 355 00:17:51,904 --> 00:17:55,073 who lived through a truly terrifying experience 356 00:17:55,074 --> 00:17:56,449 at the village's high school. 357 00:17:56,450 --> 00:18:00,161 The reports say this was some kind of, what, demonic attack? 358 00:18:00,162 --> 00:18:02,122 - Mm-hmm. - Do you agree with that? 359 00:18:02,123 --> 00:18:03,624 Yeah. 360 00:18:03,749 --> 00:18:07,294 Can you tell us what you remember of what happened 361 00:18:07,295 --> 00:18:08,379 that day? 362 00:18:34,488 --> 00:18:35,823 What happened? 363 00:18:45,333 --> 00:18:48,085 And you saw that, what, in your mind or walking around? 364 00:18:49,962 --> 00:18:51,130 Oh, no. 365 00:18:54,342 --> 00:18:56,134 And you don't have any memory after that? 366 00:18:56,135 --> 00:18:57,803 No, I can't remember anything else. 367 00:18:57,928 --> 00:18:59,639 So what's the next thing you remember? 368 00:18:59,764 --> 00:19:01,307 When did you come to? 369 00:19:15,571 --> 00:19:16,989 You could have been seriously hurt. 370 00:19:19,492 --> 00:19:22,869 Do you think that Obeah played a role in what happened? 371 00:19:22,870 --> 00:19:24,413 - Yeah. - Yes. 372 00:19:44,016 --> 00:19:46,018 - [Phil] Mother Cornhusk. - [Lee-Anna] Yeah. 373 00:20:06,163 --> 00:20:07,206 [Phil] Mm. 374 00:20:09,667 --> 00:20:12,210 [Heather] With Mother Cornhusk as a potential suspect behind 375 00:20:12,211 --> 00:20:14,922 the activity reported in Moruga, Phil and I split up 376 00:20:15,047 --> 00:20:18,800 to speak with two Obeah practitioners that Josh found. 377 00:20:18,801 --> 00:20:20,635 Mama Akilah. 378 00:20:20,636 --> 00:20:22,221 - Mm. - [rattling] 379 00:20:22,346 --> 00:20:23,805 Thank you for meeting with me. 380 00:20:23,806 --> 00:20:27,935 Iya Akilah Jaramogi practices Obeah as "Mama Akilah," 381 00:20:28,060 --> 00:20:31,604 offering healing and protection to those who seek her counsel. 382 00:20:31,605 --> 00:20:33,232 Before we speak, she pours 383 00:20:33,357 --> 00:20:34,900 a libation for her ancestors... 384 00:20:37,069 --> 00:20:38,738 a ritual offering in their honor. 385 00:20:39,780 --> 00:20:42,574 And places a white cloth over me so that I'm in harmony 386 00:20:42,575 --> 00:20:43,576 with the spirits. 387 00:20:44,910 --> 00:20:47,912 I wanted to meet with you today to learn 388 00:20:47,913 --> 00:20:48,997 the Obeah ways. 389 00:20:48,998 --> 00:20:49,957 [Mama Akilah] Mm-hmm. 390 00:20:50,082 --> 00:20:51,208 Can you tell me about the origin? 391 00:21:01,010 --> 00:21:04,305 [singing] Ye-ye-oh, mama. 392 00:21:04,430 --> 00:21:05,473 [rattling] 393 00:21:05,598 --> 00:21:07,975 [Mama Akilah speaking] 394 00:21:11,937 --> 00:21:14,273 So, for you, it is connection to your ancestors. 395 00:21:14,398 --> 00:21:17,442 It's connection to the earth, to the elements. 396 00:21:17,443 --> 00:21:18,736 Yeah. 397 00:21:21,071 --> 00:21:22,697 [Heather] But if someone wanted revenge, 398 00:21:22,698 --> 00:21:23,949 could they use it in that way as well? 399 00:21:43,511 --> 00:21:44,512 [Heather] Mm. 400 00:21:44,637 --> 00:21:48,306 What is the process of communicating with your 401 00:21:48,307 --> 00:21:50,351 ancestors, with your spirits, through Obeah? 402 00:22:08,828 --> 00:22:11,412 While Heather speaks with her expert, I'm meeting 403 00:22:11,413 --> 00:22:13,915 with Morgan Forgini, who practices 404 00:22:13,916 --> 00:22:15,835 Obeah as "Papa Dogood." 405 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,546 He trained with the infamous Mother Cornhusk, 406 00:22:18,671 --> 00:22:20,839 the Obeah practitioner who some say 407 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,384 is behind the negative activity reported all over Moruga, 408 00:22:24,385 --> 00:22:27,220 even though she's been dead for years. 409 00:22:27,221 --> 00:22:29,056 What is Obeah capable of? 410 00:22:36,105 --> 00:22:40,192 Is Obeah capable of manifesting something like a soucouyant 411 00:22:40,317 --> 00:22:41,526 or douen? 412 00:22:41,527 --> 00:22:42,653 [Papa Dogood speaking] 413 00:22:51,662 --> 00:22:54,747 [Phil] You would feed the spirit goat's blood? 414 00:22:54,748 --> 00:22:56,041 [Papa Dogood speaking] 415 00:23:09,805 --> 00:23:11,389 [mysterious music plays] 416 00:23:11,390 --> 00:23:14,018 [Phil] So what kind of signs would let me know 417 00:23:14,143 --> 00:23:15,644 that a spirit is present? 418 00:23:22,192 --> 00:23:25,361 I just had an incident where I had difficulty breathing 419 00:23:25,362 --> 00:23:29,157 in an area where people had said there is a strong 420 00:23:29,158 --> 00:23:31,785 female spirit. Why do you think it did that? 421 00:23:38,709 --> 00:23:40,002 In seconds? 422 00:23:43,505 --> 00:23:47,843 Where in this village do you think is the heart of Obeah? 423 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:57,770 What kind of rituals? 424 00:24:01,231 --> 00:24:04,192 Do you think that some of the activity that is here 425 00:24:04,193 --> 00:24:06,528 in Moruga could come from that property? 426 00:24:13,243 --> 00:24:14,328 Why? 427 00:24:17,039 --> 00:24:19,874 Multiple people have died on her property? 428 00:24:19,875 --> 00:24:20,960 Mm-hmm. 429 00:24:35,808 --> 00:24:38,059 Papa Dogood claims that the paranormal activity 430 00:24:38,060 --> 00:24:41,813 Trinidad is suffering from, can be traced back to one place, 431 00:24:41,814 --> 00:24:44,565 Mother Cornhusk's abandoned sanctuary. 432 00:24:44,566 --> 00:24:48,112 We need to find the ruins of her church, where she performed 433 00:24:48,237 --> 00:24:51,740 Obeah rituals for over 50 years, hidden deep in the jungle. 434 00:24:53,617 --> 00:24:55,118 We'll have to bushwhack our way 435 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,413 through dangerous terrain to get there. 436 00:24:57,538 --> 00:25:00,915 But if Papa Dogood's claims are right, it'll be nothing 437 00:25:00,916 --> 00:25:04,294 compared to the spiritual danger we'll supposedly face 438 00:25:04,420 --> 00:25:05,713 if we find it. 439 00:25:07,423 --> 00:25:10,591 The Obeah man I spoke with warned me that this area 440 00:25:10,592 --> 00:25:11,926 is incredibly dangerous. 441 00:25:11,927 --> 00:25:14,596 He said that these spirits could manifest 442 00:25:14,722 --> 00:25:16,265 in many different ways. 443 00:25:16,390 --> 00:25:19,935 They can make one of us want to kill another person. 444 00:25:20,060 --> 00:25:22,812 And he said, in fact, people have died back here. 445 00:25:22,813 --> 00:25:26,774 So if any of us start to feel off, we need to call it out. 446 00:25:26,775 --> 00:25:28,110 - [Phil] Yeah. - [Heather] Which one? 447 00:25:28,235 --> 00:25:29,570 Yeah. Let's try this way. 448 00:25:33,532 --> 00:25:34,533 Watch where you step. 449 00:25:36,035 --> 00:25:39,162 The good news is all the regional hospitals are 450 00:25:39,163 --> 00:25:41,497 the best at dealing with snake bites. 451 00:25:41,498 --> 00:25:43,625 The bad news is that's because there's lots of snake bites 452 00:25:43,751 --> 00:25:45,543 around here. - [Heather] Great. 453 00:25:45,544 --> 00:25:47,421 [somber ambient plays] 454 00:25:51,925 --> 00:25:53,218 [whacking] 455 00:26:01,477 --> 00:26:02,478 There's a building! 456 00:26:03,687 --> 00:26:04,688 Oh, yeah. 457 00:26:06,023 --> 00:26:07,024 Wow. 458 00:26:10,152 --> 00:26:11,737 Look at this. 459 00:26:13,989 --> 00:26:15,323 Whoa. 460 00:26:15,324 --> 00:26:17,034 Definitely seems like no one has been here 461 00:26:17,159 --> 00:26:18,242 in a very long time. 462 00:26:18,243 --> 00:26:19,702 [Heather] No. 463 00:26:19,703 --> 00:26:20,788 This is crumbling. 464 00:26:22,039 --> 00:26:25,000 This does not look like a church. 465 00:26:26,668 --> 00:26:27,919 Maybe this is where she would have lived. 466 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,921 [Phil] This is where she would have lived. 467 00:26:29,922 --> 00:26:31,422 I mean, look at this. 468 00:26:31,423 --> 00:26:32,507 She could have sat right there. 469 00:26:32,508 --> 00:26:33,884 [Heather] Yeah. 470 00:26:34,009 --> 00:26:37,387 To think that such a powerful woman, her life was right here 471 00:26:37,513 --> 00:26:38,721 in this home. 472 00:26:38,722 --> 00:26:41,225 True, but she didn't do rituals for people in here. 473 00:26:41,350 --> 00:26:43,727 That was done in her church somewhere else 474 00:26:43,852 --> 00:26:45,062 on this property. 475 00:26:45,187 --> 00:26:46,355 True. 476 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,898 But before we find that, we have to do something 477 00:26:48,899 --> 00:26:50,526 for her here. - [Phil] OK. 478 00:26:50,651 --> 00:26:53,694 My Obeah woman said we need to pour a libation out 479 00:26:53,695 --> 00:26:55,405 to show our willingness to communicate. 480 00:26:58,534 --> 00:27:01,203 Mother Cornhusk, I offer you this libation 481 00:27:03,664 --> 00:27:05,582 as a sign of our respect. 482 00:27:05,707 --> 00:27:06,875 [distant screeching] 483 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,085 Whoa, whoa, whoa. 484 00:27:09,962 --> 00:27:11,964 - [Heather] What was that? - [Phil] I don't know. 485 00:27:13,715 --> 00:27:16,717 - It almost sounded like a voice. - Yeah, like a yell. 486 00:27:16,718 --> 00:27:18,094 [distant screeching] 487 00:27:18,095 --> 00:27:19,930 Whoa, whoa, whoa. 488 00:27:20,055 --> 00:27:21,056 Let's go find out. 489 00:27:26,145 --> 00:27:27,563 - [Heather] You see anything? - [Phil] Nothing. 490 00:27:32,234 --> 00:27:33,235 It opens up over here. 491 00:27:37,030 --> 00:27:38,157 Look, another building. 492 00:27:39,741 --> 00:27:40,742 Wow. 493 00:27:42,703 --> 00:27:44,079 Shh, wait, wait, wait. 494 00:27:45,914 --> 00:27:47,708 - Whoa! - [Heather gasps] Eyeshine. 495 00:27:49,501 --> 00:27:50,502 What is that? 496 00:27:55,507 --> 00:27:57,009 [mysterious music plays] 497 00:27:58,635 --> 00:28:00,011 [Phil] Oh, my God. 498 00:28:00,012 --> 00:28:01,138 [bleating] 499 00:28:01,263 --> 00:28:02,472 Are those goats? 500 00:28:04,349 --> 00:28:05,350 [Heather] That must be what we heard. 501 00:28:06,810 --> 00:28:08,187 Why would someone keep goats here? 502 00:28:09,438 --> 00:28:11,772 [Phil] Do you know what the Obeah man I spoke to said? 503 00:28:11,773 --> 00:28:12,816 What? 504 00:28:12,941 --> 00:28:15,944 [Phil] If you are to do an evil curse on someone, 505 00:28:16,069 --> 00:28:18,322 you need goat's blood. - [Heather] No! 506 00:28:28,624 --> 00:28:30,167 [Phil] Look at these guys. 507 00:28:30,292 --> 00:28:31,501 Hey, little goat. 508 00:28:32,753 --> 00:28:33,795 What are you doing out here? 509 00:28:34,963 --> 00:28:36,131 Oh, my God, look at these. 510 00:28:37,841 --> 00:28:39,467 - See that wound right there? - [Heather] Yeah. 511 00:28:39,468 --> 00:28:42,846 This one has one, too. I recognize this. 512 00:28:42,971 --> 00:28:47,141 These are marks from vampire bats visiting these goats 513 00:28:47,142 --> 00:28:49,853 probably on a nightly basis, latching onto them 514 00:28:49,978 --> 00:28:51,646 and drinking their blood. 515 00:28:51,647 --> 00:28:55,651 You just said people use goat's blood for evil curses. 516 00:28:55,776 --> 00:28:56,860 True. 517 00:28:56,985 --> 00:28:59,195 So how do you know that's not this? 518 00:28:59,196 --> 00:29:00,363 [exhales] 519 00:29:00,364 --> 00:29:02,366 I guess I don't technically know. 520 00:29:02,491 --> 00:29:06,202 But if these goats get visited tonight, I want to know 521 00:29:06,203 --> 00:29:07,662 if it's a bat 522 00:29:07,663 --> 00:29:09,205 or a person. 523 00:29:09,206 --> 00:29:11,165 So maybe we should set up a camera trap. 524 00:29:11,166 --> 00:29:12,668 - OK. - [Phil] Right on here. 525 00:29:18,674 --> 00:29:19,674 [Heather] Got a good angle on that? 526 00:29:19,675 --> 00:29:20,842 [Phil] Yeah, I think so. 527 00:29:25,222 --> 00:29:26,348 [distant vocalization] 528 00:29:26,473 --> 00:29:28,141 What was that? 529 00:29:30,936 --> 00:29:32,396 Did you hear that? 530 00:29:32,521 --> 00:29:34,522 [Phil] That sounded like someone yelling. 531 00:29:34,523 --> 00:29:36,400 Yes. 532 00:29:36,525 --> 00:29:38,193 [distant vocalization] 533 00:29:38,318 --> 00:29:39,402 It was not a goat. 534 00:29:39,403 --> 00:29:40,445 No. 535 00:29:41,446 --> 00:29:43,699 - [Phil] Let's go this way. - [Heather] OK. 536 00:29:50,163 --> 00:29:52,040 [footsteps creaking softly] 537 00:29:53,542 --> 00:29:54,710 [Phil pants] 538 00:29:57,337 --> 00:29:58,755 [distant vocalization] 539 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,090 [Phil] Ooh! There it is again. 540 00:30:01,091 --> 00:30:02,092 Up there. 541 00:30:08,515 --> 00:30:10,309 [whacking] 542 00:30:15,147 --> 00:30:17,232 Oh, my gosh! 543 00:30:17,357 --> 00:30:19,567 Got a building. 544 00:30:19,568 --> 00:30:20,694 Not a whole lot of them left. 545 00:30:22,112 --> 00:30:25,281 The jungle's completely taken over. 546 00:30:25,282 --> 00:30:26,241 Gotta figure out what this is. 547 00:30:30,495 --> 00:30:31,620 Oh! 548 00:30:31,621 --> 00:30:35,082 Heather, this is for sure the church. 549 00:30:35,083 --> 00:30:36,584 I got a cross. 550 00:30:36,585 --> 00:30:38,336 [Heather] I think I have something better. 551 00:30:38,337 --> 00:30:40,255 - What do you mean better? - [Heather] Look at this. 552 00:30:42,424 --> 00:30:45,009 I think this potentially could have been her altar. 553 00:30:45,010 --> 00:30:46,011 [Phil] Wow. 554 00:30:47,637 --> 00:30:50,807 - Heather, you seeing this? - What? 555 00:30:50,932 --> 00:30:52,642 - [Phil] Some feathers here. - [Heather] Oh, God. 556 00:30:52,768 --> 00:30:54,185 [Phil] Is that a bad thing? 557 00:30:54,186 --> 00:30:57,438 [Heather] I mean, to me, that's evidence of another ritual. 558 00:30:57,439 --> 00:30:58,606 - [Phil] Oh! - [Heather] What? 559 00:30:58,607 --> 00:30:59,608 [Phil] Oh, my God. Look at this. 560 00:30:59,733 --> 00:31:00,817 Jawbone. 561 00:31:00,942 --> 00:31:02,986 - [Heather] Are you serious? - [Phil] And a candle... 562 00:31:03,111 --> 00:31:05,154 right here. - [Heather] Oh, my God. 563 00:31:05,155 --> 00:31:09,158 [Phil] 100% people are doing rituals here inside the ruins 564 00:31:09,159 --> 00:31:10,827 of this church. 565 00:31:10,952 --> 00:31:13,622 [Heather] This was Mother Cornhusk's altar. 566 00:31:13,747 --> 00:31:16,416 And to come in here and try and harness that to control it? 567 00:31:17,709 --> 00:31:20,503 You couldn't ask for something more dangerous. 568 00:31:20,504 --> 00:31:22,546 And based on what I've learned... 569 00:31:22,547 --> 00:31:23,965 some people trying to do that 570 00:31:24,091 --> 00:31:25,549 met a pretty awful fate here. 571 00:31:25,550 --> 00:31:26,676 Right. 572 00:31:26,802 --> 00:31:28,637 But we have to try and communicate here. 573 00:31:28,762 --> 00:31:30,137 [Phil] You going to sit up on the altar? 574 00:31:30,138 --> 00:31:32,390 [Heather] Oh I'm definitely not touching that. 575 00:31:32,391 --> 00:31:34,351 I'm gonna set up over here, but keep it in sight line. 576 00:31:34,476 --> 00:31:35,477 [Phil] OK. 577 00:31:38,355 --> 00:31:39,522 Clear line of sight for me. 578 00:31:39,523 --> 00:31:41,148 [Phil] OK. 579 00:31:41,149 --> 00:31:43,901 [Heather] I want to try to communicate with Mother Cornhusk by calling 580 00:31:43,902 --> 00:31:46,196 on the four elements, the way Mama Akilah taught me. 581 00:31:48,740 --> 00:31:50,074 Soil. 582 00:31:50,075 --> 00:31:52,536 I lay out soil to root myself in the earth. 583 00:31:52,661 --> 00:31:54,579 Pour water for the Obeah ancestors. 584 00:31:56,498 --> 00:31:59,376 For wind, I will use my voice to ask questions. 585 00:31:59,501 --> 00:32:00,669 And fire. 586 00:32:00,794 --> 00:32:02,629 And fire will provide the answers. 587 00:32:03,839 --> 00:32:05,882 If the flame leans towards me or Phil, 588 00:32:06,007 --> 00:32:08,468 or flares up suddenly, I'll take it as a "yes." 589 00:32:12,264 --> 00:32:13,932 I ask to be one with nature 590 00:32:15,642 --> 00:32:17,518 and to communicate with whatever entities, 591 00:32:17,519 --> 00:32:19,354 spirits, or creatures may be here. 592 00:32:22,357 --> 00:32:24,151 - Recording. - OK. 593 00:32:26,111 --> 00:32:27,863 Mother Cornhusk, 594 00:32:27,988 --> 00:32:28,989 are you here with us? 595 00:32:30,615 --> 00:32:33,701 You can twist this flame, move this flame, 596 00:32:33,702 --> 00:32:35,078 grow this flame. 597 00:32:38,623 --> 00:32:41,250 - That's a lot of movement. - [Phil] It's dancing. 598 00:32:41,251 --> 00:32:43,210 There's no... 599 00:32:43,211 --> 00:32:44,879 no breeze. 600 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,256 [Phil sighs] 601 00:32:46,381 --> 00:32:48,049 [Heather] Mother Cornhusk, 602 00:32:48,175 --> 00:32:51,093 is the activity here on Trinidad 603 00:32:51,094 --> 00:32:52,721 because of Obeah? 604 00:32:55,390 --> 00:32:56,599 Now it's leaning towards me. 605 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,351 OK, I'll take that as a yes. 606 00:33:00,854 --> 00:33:01,855 Did it all come from here? 607 00:33:06,485 --> 00:33:07,736 Wow, it's pointing right at me. 608 00:33:08,820 --> 00:33:13,073 So, based on your system, that means what I just said 609 00:33:13,074 --> 00:33:14,576 is true? - [Heather] Yeah. 610 00:33:17,078 --> 00:33:18,914 [Phil] Have you been with us this whole time? 611 00:33:20,999 --> 00:33:23,627 Are you the same one that we spoke to at Lopinot... 612 00:33:25,670 --> 00:33:26,922 at Chacachacare Island... 613 00:33:28,465 --> 00:33:29,924 here tonight? 614 00:33:29,925 --> 00:33:31,760 [Heather] It's definitely leaning towards you, Phil. 615 00:33:37,766 --> 00:33:39,184 Those students of that school, 616 00:33:40,769 --> 00:33:42,646 were they possessed 617 00:33:42,771 --> 00:33:43,772 by something evil? 618 00:33:46,441 --> 00:33:47,442 "Yes." 619 00:33:48,902 --> 00:33:51,112 Are you the one that possessed those students? 620 00:33:55,116 --> 00:33:56,117 "No." 621 00:33:57,369 --> 00:33:59,538 Have there been curses done here 622 00:34:00,622 --> 00:34:01,623 to harm others? 623 00:34:04,543 --> 00:34:06,293 [Heather] "Yes." 624 00:34:06,294 --> 00:34:07,962 [Phil] Altar's right there. 625 00:34:07,963 --> 00:34:09,673 What if I move the flame a little closer? 626 00:34:09,798 --> 00:34:10,966 Just put it right here. 627 00:34:21,935 --> 00:34:23,645 [creaking noises] 628 00:34:25,146 --> 00:34:26,356 [Heather] That was a big noise. 629 00:34:27,941 --> 00:34:29,192 [cracking] 630 00:34:30,652 --> 00:34:31,653 You hear that? 631 00:34:33,405 --> 00:34:35,490 It sounded like footsteps-- 632 00:34:35,615 --> 00:34:36,741 [both] Ooh! 633 00:34:42,414 --> 00:34:44,915 One of the first great practitioners of Obeah was 634 00:34:44,916 --> 00:34:47,334 a woman known as "Queen Nanny." 635 00:34:47,335 --> 00:34:50,337 Born in Africa, brought to the Caribbean in chains, 636 00:34:50,338 --> 00:34:52,799 she would become one of the region's most extraordinary 637 00:34:52,924 --> 00:34:54,341 freedom fighters. 638 00:34:54,342 --> 00:34:57,511 Legends say Queen Nanny's powers allowed her to spy 639 00:34:57,512 --> 00:34:59,013 on her enemies, 640 00:34:59,014 --> 00:35:01,849 leading her troops, known as the "Windward Maroons," 641 00:35:01,850 --> 00:35:02,976 to many victories. 642 00:35:03,977 --> 00:35:07,146 Eyewitnesses swore she could catch bullets in her hands, 643 00:35:07,147 --> 00:35:09,481 hurling them back at her attackers. 644 00:35:09,482 --> 00:35:12,277 Others said she could cloak her warriors in shadow 645 00:35:12,402 --> 00:35:13,861 until they struck. 646 00:35:13,862 --> 00:35:17,698 Queen Nanny was so feared that in 1740, the British signed 647 00:35:17,699 --> 00:35:20,994 a treaty granting her and the Maroons freedom. 648 00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:24,456 Her defiance inspired others, terrifying the colonizers 649 00:35:24,581 --> 00:35:28,668 so much that they eventually outlawed Obeah itself. 650 00:35:28,793 --> 00:35:30,961 Today, Queen Nanny is considered a hero 651 00:35:30,962 --> 00:35:32,297 across the Caribbean. 652 00:35:32,422 --> 00:35:35,633 Her picture is featured on Jamaica's $500 banknote, 653 00:35:35,634 --> 00:35:38,720 a priceless reminder of her resistance and strength. 654 00:35:42,307 --> 00:35:44,267 [mysterious music plays] 655 00:35:44,392 --> 00:35:45,769 [Heather] What the hell was that? 656 00:35:45,894 --> 00:35:48,103 Something just flew into the flame and died. 657 00:35:48,104 --> 00:35:49,773 [Heather] Oh, my God. 658 00:35:50,899 --> 00:35:52,942 Right when you moved it closer to the altar, 659 00:35:53,068 --> 00:35:54,943 we heard those noises, 660 00:35:54,944 --> 00:35:56,820 and that... 661 00:35:56,821 --> 00:35:59,990 That is a sign that eyes are on us. 662 00:35:59,991 --> 00:36:02,076 What you see is like a warning shot? 663 00:36:02,077 --> 00:36:03,286 [Heather] Yes. 664 00:36:03,411 --> 00:36:05,412 It's a living sacrifice. 665 00:36:05,413 --> 00:36:07,123 It doesn't matter how small it is. 666 00:36:08,249 --> 00:36:12,253 That very well could have been a sign that we're intruding. 667 00:36:12,379 --> 00:36:15,172 [Phil] Or it's just a bug that flew into a flame. 668 00:36:15,173 --> 00:36:17,174 That happens all the time. 669 00:36:17,175 --> 00:36:20,762 [Heather] We have been interacting with something this entire time, 670 00:36:20,887 --> 00:36:22,137 something evil. 671 00:36:22,138 --> 00:36:26,267 I got an affirmative at Lopinot, at Chacachacare, 672 00:36:26,393 --> 00:36:28,436 that it was a soucouyant. 673 00:36:28,561 --> 00:36:33,315 It is very clear to me that Obeah is a force. 674 00:36:33,316 --> 00:36:35,317 It is very powerful. 675 00:36:35,318 --> 00:36:39,114 And just like nature, it can be used for good or for evil. 676 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:44,952 I'll admit, Obeah and nature are undeniably intertwined. 677 00:36:44,953 --> 00:36:49,206 I just think it's nature influencing Obeah beliefs 678 00:36:49,207 --> 00:36:51,459 versus Obeah affecting nature. 679 00:36:53,378 --> 00:36:55,171 Why did you turn off my recorder? 680 00:36:55,296 --> 00:36:56,297 [Phil] I didn't. 681 00:36:57,424 --> 00:36:58,842 I did not turn it off. 682 00:36:58,967 --> 00:37:00,342 I have no idea when this died. 683 00:37:00,343 --> 00:37:01,969 [Heather] We had full battery. 684 00:37:01,970 --> 00:37:03,054 [Phil] Are you kidding me? 685 00:37:04,973 --> 00:37:07,975 [Josh] The recorder dying was the last in an all-too-long 686 00:37:07,976 --> 00:37:10,979 list of unsettling events that my team encountered 687 00:37:11,104 --> 00:37:13,773 while investigating the terrors of Trinidad. 688 00:37:14,816 --> 00:37:18,527 The digital recorder lost all power at the same moment Phil 689 00:37:18,528 --> 00:37:21,197 and Heather heard noises in the brush behind them. 690 00:37:22,657 --> 00:37:23,658 You hear that? 691 00:37:25,452 --> 00:37:28,412 It sounded like footsteps. 692 00:37:28,413 --> 00:37:31,999 [Josh] And what it captured right before it died is disturbing 693 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,001 to the extreme. 694 00:37:35,170 --> 00:37:37,922 [distorted vocalization] 695 00:37:39,716 --> 00:37:42,844 [Josh] We've never recorded anything like this before. 696 00:37:44,262 --> 00:37:47,390 [distorted vocalization] 697 00:37:47,515 --> 00:37:51,268 [Josh] Heather believes this eerie audio is proof that, for good 698 00:37:51,269 --> 00:37:55,272 or ill, the spiritual energy from Mother Cornhusk's Obeah 699 00:37:55,273 --> 00:37:56,857 rituals still lingers 700 00:37:56,858 --> 00:37:58,442 at her wilderness church 701 00:37:58,443 --> 00:38:01,029 more than two decades after her death. 702 00:38:01,154 --> 00:38:03,740 After all, Mother Cornhusk was renowned 703 00:38:03,865 --> 00:38:05,492 for her incredible power. 704 00:38:07,911 --> 00:38:09,370 [Phil] What kind of rituals? 705 00:38:13,166 --> 00:38:14,083 [Josh] And there were many more 706 00:38:14,209 --> 00:38:17,212 horrors from the team's time in Trinidad. 707 00:38:17,337 --> 00:38:18,379 [Heather gasps] 708 00:38:19,506 --> 00:38:22,091 [Josh] They traveled to the island to investigate reports 709 00:38:22,217 --> 00:38:23,759 of malevolent forces. 710 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:24,928 Douens... 711 00:38:25,053 --> 00:38:26,095 jumbees... 712 00:38:26,221 --> 00:38:27,889 and soucouyants. 713 00:38:28,014 --> 00:38:30,390 And frighteningly, they may have found evidence 714 00:38:30,391 --> 00:38:31,559 of all three. 715 00:38:31,684 --> 00:38:33,019 [Heather] Are you a soucouyant? 716 00:38:36,064 --> 00:38:37,940 [Josh] Heather believes she was communicating 717 00:38:37,941 --> 00:38:39,108 with a soucouyant, 718 00:38:39,234 --> 00:38:42,736 the shape-shifting, soul-sucking vampiric spirit 719 00:38:42,737 --> 00:38:44,738 near the Lopinot plantation 720 00:38:44,739 --> 00:38:47,074 and then again on Chacachacare. 721 00:38:47,075 --> 00:38:49,244 Is it a soucouyant I need to be worried about? 722 00:38:50,245 --> 00:38:51,411 "Yes." 723 00:38:51,412 --> 00:38:54,249 [Josh] As for douens, the evil childlike entities 724 00:38:54,374 --> 00:38:57,919 said to have backwards feet, we analyzed the photograph 725 00:38:58,044 --> 00:38:59,962 of the footprint Phil found in the forest 726 00:38:59,963 --> 00:39:01,589 behind the plantation. 727 00:39:01,714 --> 00:39:03,590 It matched those of an approximately 728 00:39:03,591 --> 00:39:05,133 four-year-old child. 729 00:39:05,134 --> 00:39:08,095 But, curiously, there are no children of that age 730 00:39:08,096 --> 00:39:09,805 in the closest village. 731 00:39:09,806 --> 00:39:12,267 Phil notes that it could have been just a kid who visited 732 00:39:12,392 --> 00:39:14,434 the area going for a walk. 733 00:39:14,435 --> 00:39:17,604 Heather asks why a child would be walking alone that late 734 00:39:17,605 --> 00:39:21,525 at night in the jungle, doing so away from civilization 735 00:39:21,526 --> 00:39:23,610 and possibly backwards. 736 00:39:23,611 --> 00:39:25,821 And, lastly, there were the jumbees, 737 00:39:25,822 --> 00:39:28,949 supposed restless spirits of the dead. 738 00:39:28,950 --> 00:39:32,119 On Chacachacare Island, the IR camera the team left 739 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:36,332 behind to monitor their boat shows hours of gentle movement. 740 00:39:36,457 --> 00:39:38,418 And then it records this. 741 00:39:42,755 --> 00:39:46,133 The current under the boat never changes, yet it's clearly 742 00:39:46,134 --> 00:39:49,345 rocking more violently than it naturally should. 743 00:39:49,470 --> 00:39:52,473 With no obvious explanation, Heather wonders if this could 744 00:39:52,599 --> 00:39:56,185 be evidence of a jumbee, perhaps one desperately trying 745 00:39:56,311 --> 00:39:59,480 to escape this island where so many perished. 746 00:40:03,318 --> 00:40:05,152 [Josh] Thankfully, there were also a few things 747 00:40:05,153 --> 00:40:06,987 that could be explained. 748 00:40:06,988 --> 00:40:10,324 Although our trail cam failed to catch any vampire bats 749 00:40:10,325 --> 00:40:14,578 in the act, Phil showed images of the goats curiously mutilated 750 00:40:14,579 --> 00:40:17,873 tissue to a veterinary expert who confirmed they are 751 00:40:17,874 --> 00:40:20,167 consistent with marks left behind 752 00:40:20,168 --> 00:40:21,669 by the blood-sucking bats. 753 00:40:21,794 --> 00:40:23,338 [coughing harshly] 754 00:40:24,380 --> 00:40:26,841 [Josh] Phil is also convinced his coughing fit under 755 00:40:26,966 --> 00:40:30,010 the dormitory was caused by breathing in pollen 756 00:40:30,011 --> 00:40:32,347 from the deadly manchineel trees, 757 00:40:32,472 --> 00:40:34,307 finding dust from it on his clothing. 758 00:40:35,308 --> 00:40:38,061 He's incredibly lucky he only got a minor taste 759 00:40:38,186 --> 00:40:39,729 of these toxic trees. 760 00:40:41,189 --> 00:40:43,358 So with some things in Trinidad settled, 761 00:40:43,483 --> 00:40:45,108 but some distinctly unsettled, 762 00:40:45,109 --> 00:40:47,945 there was one last thing the team needed to take 763 00:40:47,946 --> 00:40:51,532 care of before they left the country, Phil's limbo loss. 764 00:40:53,326 --> 00:40:54,910 All right, you won. 765 00:40:54,911 --> 00:40:57,205 Just when he thought he couldn't get any lower, 766 00:40:57,330 --> 00:40:59,540 it was time for him to face the music. 767 00:41:00,750 --> 00:41:03,210 All right, we all know that Phil Torres lost a bet, 768 00:41:03,211 --> 00:41:05,212 and it's time for him to pay up. 769 00:41:05,213 --> 00:41:09,299 Phil Torres, come on down! 770 00:41:09,300 --> 00:41:11,010 [audience cheering] 771 00:41:12,971 --> 00:41:15,055 [lively music plays] 772 00:41:15,056 --> 00:41:16,391 [Heather laughs] 773 00:41:21,604 --> 00:41:23,230 Anything you want to say, Torres? 774 00:41:23,231 --> 00:41:24,439 [Phil] You know what, everybody? 775 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:25,899 I've learned something today. 776 00:41:25,900 --> 00:41:28,610 You should never make a bet with Heather Amaro. 777 00:41:28,611 --> 00:41:29,946 - [Heather cackles] - [audience cheering] 778 00:41:30,071 --> 00:41:31,613 [lively music resumes] 779 00:41:31,614 --> 00:41:33,824 Maybe we should get one of these for Josh. 780 00:41:33,825 --> 00:41:34,784 Maybe. 781 00:41:34,909 --> 00:41:36,077 - [Heather laughs]