1 00:00:01,302 --> 00:00:03,102 [josh] on this episode of expedition x. 2 00:00:03,104 --> 00:00:04,303 [phil] look how steep that is. 3 00:00:04,305 --> 00:00:06,405 [jess] careful. Oh, my gosh. 4 00:00:06,407 --> 00:00:09,942 [josh] phil and jess head to the wilds of the pacific northwest. 5 00:00:10,011 --> 00:00:13,112 To investigate a paranormal hotspot. 6 00:00:13,114 --> 00:00:15,848 [bert] I heard a disembodied voice of a woman humming. 7 00:00:18,352 --> 00:00:21,520 [josh] at the site of horrific train tragedy. 8 00:00:21,522 --> 00:00:25,024 [phil] can you imagine, you're sitting there in a crowded car, 9 00:00:25,026 --> 00:00:27,359 -And then this crushing force on top of it. -[jess] yeah. 10 00:00:28,963 --> 00:00:31,797 This is essentially, you know, a graveyard. 11 00:00:31,799 --> 00:00:34,400 [man] I personally think that there were a lot more people killed. 12 00:00:34,402 --> 00:00:36,635 -So, you're saying there's a bit of a cover up? -Yes. 13 00:00:38,239 --> 00:00:43,308 [josh] the truth behind this haunting disaster was kept hidden until now. 14 00:00:43,310 --> 00:00:47,346 So, you got this footage, right on top of the accident site? 15 00:00:47,415 --> 00:00:49,848 Yeah. I saw the head right there. 16 00:00:49,917 --> 00:00:52,518 [josh] we uncover the buried secrets of... 17 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:53,752 [jess] is that you? 18 00:00:54,522 --> 00:00:55,821 Did you just hear whistling? 19 00:00:57,658 --> 00:00:59,658 [josh] ...The avalanche ghost train 20 00:01:04,498 --> 00:01:07,332 [josh] my name is josh gates 21 00:01:07,401 --> 00:01:11,737 In my travels, I've experienced strange things that defy logic, 22 00:01:11,806 --> 00:01:14,206 And made me question everything. 23 00:01:14,208 --> 00:01:15,941 Oh, my god. 24 00:01:15,943 --> 00:01:17,609 [josh] now, I've put together a team 25 00:01:17,611 --> 00:01:20,646 To investigate the stranger side of the unknown 26 00:01:21,115 --> 00:01:23,115 Let's go. 27 00:01:23,117 --> 00:01:26,852 [josh] phil torres is a scientist who hunts for rational explanations. 28 00:01:30,958 --> 00:01:35,227 Jessica chobot's paranormal research, has made her a true believer 29 00:01:35,229 --> 00:01:37,329 If you're here with us, knock again. 30 00:01:37,331 --> 00:01:40,065 [josh] together, we're searching for answers 31 00:01:40,101 --> 00:01:41,533 [phil] what is happening here, jess? 32 00:01:41,602 --> 00:01:45,037 [josh] to the world's most extraordinary mysteries. 33 00:01:45,039 --> 00:01:48,240 This is expedition x. 34 00:01:51,412 --> 00:01:52,844 All right. Jess, phil, 35 00:01:52,846 --> 00:01:55,347 When was the last time the two of you took a trip by train? 36 00:01:55,449 --> 00:01:59,151 I took a lovely trip on a bullet train a few years back in japan. 37 00:01:59,220 --> 00:02:01,954 Yeah, I took a sleeper car across europe a few summers back. 38 00:02:01,956 --> 00:02:04,156 Nothing like falling asleep to the rumble of a train. 39 00:02:04,258 --> 00:02:05,624 Both those sound lovely. 40 00:02:05,626 --> 00:02:07,626 Now, imagine it's the dead of winter 41 00:02:07,628 --> 00:02:09,628 And a blizzard rolls in. 42 00:02:09,630 --> 00:02:10,796 Your train gets stuck. 43 00:02:10,798 --> 00:02:13,499 Snow is piling up past the windows 44 00:02:13,501 --> 00:02:15,901 And you are trapped for days. 45 00:02:15,903 --> 00:02:18,237 Food is running low. There is no heat, 46 00:02:18,305 --> 00:02:21,106 No power, and then it gets worse. 47 00:02:21,108 --> 00:02:22,407 No wi-fi. 48 00:02:22,409 --> 00:02:23,909 That does sound like your nightmare, jess. 49 00:02:23,911 --> 00:02:25,344 -It does. -This is a real nightmare. 50 00:02:25,445 --> 00:02:27,212 This is actually a true story. 51 00:02:27,214 --> 00:02:29,948 And it goes down as one of the deadliest train disasters 52 00:02:30,017 --> 00:02:32,050 In american history. 53 00:02:32,052 --> 00:02:36,722 And some say, that even now a century later, the ghosts of that tragedy, 54 00:02:36,724 --> 00:02:39,625 Still haunt the mountains of the pacific northwest. 55 00:02:42,897 --> 00:02:45,764 [josh] February 22nd, 1910. 56 00:02:45,832 --> 00:02:47,699 Winding through the cascade mountains, 57 00:02:47,701 --> 00:02:51,336 The great northern railway, passenger train number 25, 58 00:02:51,405 --> 00:02:54,606 Is on an east-west journey from spokane to seattle. 59 00:02:54,608 --> 00:02:57,109 Aboard are 55 passengers. 60 00:02:57,111 --> 00:03:00,812 From commuting businessmen to vacationing families. 61 00:03:00,814 --> 00:03:03,949 They expect an uneventful overnight journey. 62 00:03:03,951 --> 00:03:08,921 But fate makes the tiny town of wellington their final stop. 63 00:03:08,923 --> 00:03:11,690 Snow begins falling at up to a foot per hour. 64 00:03:11,692 --> 00:03:14,760 Burying the tracks under 20-foot-high drifts. 65 00:03:16,730 --> 00:03:19,598 Snow ploughs fail and the train can't move. 66 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,701 Days pass and anxious passengers 67 00:03:22,703 --> 00:03:25,204 Are running low on food and coal 68 00:03:25,206 --> 00:03:28,106 To heat the train cars. 69 00:03:28,108 --> 00:03:31,043 A few trek nearly four miles through stormy weather 70 00:03:31,045 --> 00:03:34,846 And deep snow drifts to the next outpost. 71 00:03:34,915 --> 00:03:37,649 But most have to stay put on the stranded train, 72 00:03:37,718 --> 00:03:40,819 Unable to make the treacherous hike. 73 00:03:42,356 --> 00:03:46,758 Six days after the train stalled, the snow turns to rain. 74 00:03:46,860 --> 00:03:50,629 Everyone celebrates believing that soon, they'll be on their way agai 75 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:56,235 But mother nature has other plans. 76 00:03:56,336 --> 00:04:00,239 On March 1st around 1:30 a.M lightning flashes. 77 00:04:00,340 --> 00:04:02,307 Thunder cracks. 78 00:04:02,309 --> 00:04:07,312 Suddenly a slab of ice, more than a quarter-mile wid roars down the mountain side 79 00:04:08,716 --> 00:04:12,050 Turning rocks and trees into high speed projectiles 80 00:04:12,119 --> 00:04:15,621 That slam into the helpless train, 81 00:04:15,623 --> 00:04:19,725 Hurling it more than a 150 feet into the ravine below. 82 00:04:21,729 --> 00:04:27,599 It's a mangled heap of metal ice, splintered trees and human bodies. 83 00:04:27,601 --> 00:04:31,603 Rescue crews managed to pull 23 people to safety 84 00:04:31,605 --> 00:04:32,970 But the rest are dead. 85 00:04:34,908 --> 00:04:37,943 The final body isn't recover until the end of July. 86 00:04:39,446 --> 00:04:43,515 The official death toll is 9 87 00:04:43,517 --> 00:04:48,053 The wellington disaster, remains the deadliest avalanche in us history. 88 00:04:49,590 --> 00:04:51,757 Now, over a century later, 89 00:04:51,858 --> 00:04:55,661 Hikers are reporting paranormal activity around the accident site. 90 00:04:56,830 --> 00:04:59,131 People claim to hear ghostly voices, 91 00:04:59,133 --> 00:05:02,200 Laugher, strange humming and singing, 92 00:05:02,202 --> 00:05:05,604 And an eerie unsettling feeling that overtakes them 93 00:05:07,941 --> 00:05:11,710 One man captured on camera what appears to be an apparition. 94 00:05:17,117 --> 00:05:21,053 Reports of unexplained phenomena around the abandoned tracks 95 00:05:21,055 --> 00:05:23,555 Have escalated over the past few months. 96 00:05:23,657 --> 00:05:25,857 So, the time to investigate is now, 97 00:05:25,926 --> 00:05:29,361 Before snow covers the evidence again. 98 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:34,533 So what do you think? 99 00:05:34,601 --> 00:05:38,437 So much trauma, and death concentrated in one location, 100 00:05:38,472 --> 00:05:40,305 I think it's gotta be haunted. 101 00:05:40,307 --> 00:05:44,042 I really wanna talk to the guy that caught that ghostly image on camera. 102 00:05:44,111 --> 00:05:45,677 Phil, what do you make of the video? 103 00:05:45,679 --> 00:05:48,613 [phil] there are some plausible explanations for what he caught on tape. 104 00:05:48,615 --> 00:05:51,249 It could be atmospheric conditions. It could be an animal. 105 00:05:51,318 --> 00:05:53,719 It could be a trick of the light. 106 00:05:53,721 --> 00:05:56,822 Yeah, but the witness also said that he heard voices at the disaster site 107 00:05:56,824 --> 00:05:58,457 And other people have reported that too. 108 00:05:58,525 --> 00:06:01,326 So, this video's not an isolated incident. 109 00:06:01,328 --> 00:06:02,527 But it's also a windy place. 110 00:06:02,529 --> 00:06:05,997 Wind can make strange sounds. And so can wildlife. 111 00:06:05,999 --> 00:06:08,433 So, the two of you have got to get up there and check this out. 112 00:06:08,502 --> 00:06:11,036 You're gonna be the first team on tv to ever investigate the wreck 113 00:06:11,138 --> 00:06:13,305 And the paranormal claims surrounding it. 114 00:06:13,307 --> 00:06:16,608 -That's kind of awesome. -All right. Get ready to see a ghost. 115 00:06:16,610 --> 00:06:19,511 Well, it sounds like the two of you are all aboard. 116 00:06:19,513 --> 00:06:20,612 [groaning] 117 00:06:20,614 --> 00:06:22,414 I'm sorry. 118 00:06:22,416 --> 00:06:24,049 Just gonna let that one wash over me. 119 00:06:24,118 --> 00:06:25,583 Please do. 120 00:06:26,553 --> 00:06:29,554 [josh] phil and jess, fly 2200 miles from new york 121 00:06:29,623 --> 00:06:31,323 To spokane, washington. 122 00:06:31,325 --> 00:06:34,760 From there, it's a four hour drive west into the cascade mountains. 123 00:06:39,833 --> 00:06:41,199 [jess] gorgeous. 124 00:06:41,201 --> 00:06:43,735 This is one of my favorite patches in wilderness in all the us. 125 00:06:43,837 --> 00:06:45,937 -I come here every single spring. -Mm-hmm. 126 00:06:46,006 --> 00:06:49,040 And yet I've never heard this story about the train. 127 00:06:50,411 --> 00:06:52,411 -[jess] look at this [bleep]. -[phil] oof! 128 00:06:52,413 --> 00:06:53,945 So, this is logging? 129 00:06:54,014 --> 00:06:56,114 [phil] all of these downed trees, this is not logging. 130 00:06:56,116 --> 00:06:58,417 This is wreckage from an avalanche. 131 00:06:58,419 --> 00:07:00,852 What? Whoa! 132 00:07:02,956 --> 00:07:05,023 -[jess] whoa! -[phil] are you kidding me? 133 00:07:05,025 --> 00:07:06,958 -[phil] look at that! -[jess] I mean, this is recent. 134 00:07:07,428 --> 00:07:08,527 [phil] oh, my god! 135 00:07:10,531 --> 00:07:11,863 Wow! 136 00:07:12,666 --> 00:07:13,799 [phil] oof! 137 00:07:13,801 --> 00:07:16,101 -[phil] that's incredible. -[jess] there's snow. 138 00:07:16,937 --> 00:07:19,404 Ooh! That is just packed. 139 00:07:21,108 --> 00:07:22,107 [laughs] 140 00:07:24,011 --> 00:07:26,711 -Not cool, jess. -Oh, come on. 141 00:07:27,214 --> 00:07:28,713 Have some fun. 142 00:07:28,715 --> 00:07:30,148 I mean, that is like concrete though. 143 00:07:30,217 --> 00:07:32,150 You would never survive getting hit by something like that. 144 00:07:32,219 --> 00:07:35,720 Yeah. If you think about all the snow pack that happens here. 145 00:07:35,722 --> 00:07:39,825 And they say in this area of washington, they can get up to 25 feet. 146 00:07:39,827 --> 00:07:42,828 -Yeah. -All gets compressed, turns into this giant ice cube 147 00:07:42,830 --> 00:07:44,529 Just rushing down. Look at what it did. 148 00:07:44,531 --> 00:07:47,132 Look how thick that tree is. 149 00:07:47,234 --> 00:07:50,602 [phil] avalanches occur when wind, rain or human activity 150 00:07:50,604 --> 00:07:55,841 Causes a layer of snow to suddenly fracture and detach from a mountain slope 151 00:07:55,942 --> 00:07:59,110 Sending thousands of tons of snow, hurtling down 152 00:07:59,112 --> 00:08:02,013 At speeds of up to 200 miles per hour. 153 00:08:02,015 --> 00:08:06,051 Anyone below, like those trapped on the great northern train 154 00:08:06,053 --> 00:08:08,053 Would have only seconds to try to escape. 155 00:08:08,055 --> 00:08:09,821 [jess] man, you can see, like, the trees, 156 00:08:09,823 --> 00:08:12,023 How they're flattened and bent like that. 157 00:08:12,025 --> 00:08:13,725 -[phil] yeah. -Man! 158 00:08:16,964 --> 00:08:19,498 [josh] jess and phil continue to skykomish 159 00:08:19,500 --> 00:08:21,700 Which would have been one of the next stops 160 00:08:21,702 --> 00:08:24,336 On the train's ill-fated journey. 161 00:08:24,404 --> 00:08:26,204 There, I've arranged for the to meet someone 162 00:08:26,206 --> 00:08:28,607 Who has a very personal connection to the tragedy. 163 00:08:29,743 --> 00:08:32,644 Sheila hagar is a local reporter. 164 00:08:32,746 --> 00:08:35,947 And a descendant of one of the avalanche victims. 165 00:08:36,016 --> 00:08:39,618 What kind of sparked your desire to find out more about 166 00:08:39,620 --> 00:08:42,954 Your great grandmother's involvement in the wellington avalanche? 167 00:08:43,023 --> 00:08:45,624 I just typed my grandfather's name into google. 168 00:08:45,626 --> 00:08:50,629 And I come across this little tidbit about sarah jane covington. 169 00:08:50,631 --> 00:08:52,130 And I'm just stunned. 170 00:08:52,966 --> 00:08:54,699 [jess] 69-year-old sarah covington 171 00:08:54,701 --> 00:08:57,302 Was in spokane caring for her sick son 172 00:08:57,304 --> 00:09:00,639 And was travelling alone back to seattle when the avalanche hit. 173 00:09:00,707 --> 00:09:04,943 She never made it home to celebrate her 51st wedding anniversary 174 00:09:04,945 --> 00:09:06,711 So nobody in the family ever talked about this? 175 00:09:06,713 --> 00:09:08,212 Not to me. 176 00:09:08,281 --> 00:09:12,717 Not many people at all knew that this 1910 avalanche had occurred. 177 00:09:12,719 --> 00:09:15,520 When I wrote about it people had no idea. 178 00:09:15,522 --> 00:09:18,857 I think the railroad company did their very best 179 00:09:18,959 --> 00:09:20,425 To make sure it was forgotten. 180 00:09:20,427 --> 00:09:23,728 For them, this was a terrible pr... 181 00:09:23,730 --> 00:09:24,896 -Mm-hmm. -...Issue. 182 00:09:24,898 --> 00:09:27,632 If people were afraid to go on that train 183 00:09:27,734 --> 00:09:29,701 They weren't going to have customers. 184 00:09:29,703 --> 00:09:33,305 Josh had mentioned that you'd actually come across some of your 185 00:09:33,307 --> 00:09:37,175 Great-great grandmother's writing from when she was on the train. 186 00:09:37,177 --> 00:09:38,643 Yes. 187 00:09:38,712 --> 00:09:41,913 I don't know whether it was on her body when they found it. 188 00:09:41,915 --> 00:09:44,316 Or possibly in her luggage. 189 00:09:44,318 --> 00:09:45,750 What was going on inside that train? 190 00:09:45,819 --> 00:09:48,420 Let me show you. 191 00:09:48,422 --> 00:09:51,623 [sheila] she's not very worried when the train actually gets snowbound. 192 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,427 [sarah] "February 27th, 1910. 193 00:09:55,429 --> 00:09:57,295 My dear husband and children 194 00:09:57,297 --> 00:10:00,932 I, with 100 or so, are snowbound here." 195 00:10:01,001 --> 00:10:05,236 She does talk about how one young man 196 00:10:05,305 --> 00:10:07,539 Was able to play music. 197 00:10:07,641 --> 00:10:11,042 He had a horn. But that people were very blue. 198 00:10:11,144 --> 00:10:13,945 [sarah] "quite a number play cards and drink, 199 00:10:13,947 --> 00:10:16,514 Talk slang and any old thing. 200 00:10:16,516 --> 00:10:19,050 We have no water and very little fuel. 201 00:10:19,152 --> 00:10:22,354 I am trusting in god to save us. 202 00:10:22,455 --> 00:10:25,757 Some are in deadly fear that a landslide will come down on us." 203 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:28,960 Can we get a copy of some of these documents? 204 00:10:29,029 --> 00:10:33,031 -You guys can take all of this and pursue. -[jess] awesome. Thank you. 205 00:10:33,033 --> 00:10:34,599 All of this! What else do we have in here? 206 00:10:34,601 --> 00:10:37,302 [jess] victims list. This is very helpful. 207 00:10:37,304 --> 00:10:39,437 -This is a great place to start. -Yeah. 208 00:10:39,539 --> 00:10:42,774 [jess] now that we have more information about who was on the train, 209 00:10:42,776 --> 00:10:46,578 We need to investigate the actual site of the disaster. 210 00:10:46,580 --> 00:10:51,249 It's a half-hour drive east to where the accident happen and the old train route. 211 00:10:51,251 --> 00:10:53,518 Then it's a hike up to the site. 212 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,755 I'm curious to connect with whatever spirits may be lingering here. 213 00:10:58,191 --> 00:11:01,793 Josh has arranged for us to meet bert coates. 214 00:11:01,795 --> 00:11:05,230 A graphic designer, he has lived in the area for 40 years 215 00:11:05,232 --> 00:11:08,600 And spends most of his weekends hiking and camping in the mountains 216 00:11:09,703 --> 00:11:11,803 One night around the disaster site, 217 00:11:11,805 --> 00:11:14,205 He captured and eerie figur on camera. 218 00:11:16,943 --> 00:11:20,311 So you had an experience around here. 219 00:11:20,313 --> 00:11:21,413 I did. 220 00:11:21,415 --> 00:11:23,347 -I hiked up here... -[jess] mm-hmm. 221 00:11:23,349 --> 00:11:27,519 [bert] ...And I had heard a disembodied voice of a wom that just started humming. 222 00:11:30,891 --> 00:11:32,724 And then she started singing 223 00:11:32,726 --> 00:11:34,926 -[jess] really? -[bert] but you couldn't really make out the words 224 00:11:34,928 --> 00:11:36,561 Of what she was singing. 225 00:11:39,199 --> 00:11:41,299 -Did you recognize the song at all? -No, not at all. 226 00:11:41,301 --> 00:11:43,501 Did you know the history of this place before coming here? 227 00:11:43,503 --> 00:11:45,036 Not until after I went back home. 228 00:11:45,105 --> 00:11:47,305 After the hike I started looking at the history of wellington. 229 00:11:47,307 --> 00:11:49,441 So, essentially, you had your first experience here. 230 00:11:49,509 --> 00:11:51,676 -Yeah. -And it sounds like you kept coming back... 231 00:11:51,678 --> 00:11:53,044 -Oh, yeah. -...At night to try 232 00:11:53,046 --> 00:11:54,445 -To figure out what was happening? -Yep. 233 00:11:54,514 --> 00:11:57,315 -So, the video, can you show us what happened? -Absolutely. 234 00:11:57,317 --> 00:11:59,617 [phil] all right. 235 00:11:59,619 --> 00:12:02,620 [jess] bert takes us down the trail to the snow shed. 236 00:12:02,622 --> 00:12:05,824 A massive half mile long concrete structure 237 00:12:05,826 --> 00:12:09,327 Built after the avalanche to shield the tracks from future disasters. 238 00:12:11,965 --> 00:12:14,065 [phil] I definitely recognize these pillars from your video. 239 00:12:14,134 --> 00:12:16,101 [bert] yeah. 240 00:12:16,103 --> 00:12:19,804 I'd hiked to the snow shed. We started having problems with the camera. 241 00:12:19,806 --> 00:12:21,539 The batteries just started draining, 242 00:12:21,641 --> 00:12:24,642 So I stepped off to the sid with the camera 243 00:12:24,711 --> 00:12:29,247 And I wasn't paying attentio to what I was filming when I captured the image. 244 00:12:29,282 --> 00:12:31,149 And so then you were recording down in this direction? 245 00:12:31,251 --> 00:12:33,118 Yep. I was recording right at that angle. 246 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:34,119 Which pillar would it be? 247 00:12:35,055 --> 00:12:36,554 I saw the head right there. 248 00:12:38,558 --> 00:12:40,258 -So, here, right? -Yes. 249 00:12:40,527 --> 00:12:41,559 Okay. 250 00:12:41,628 --> 00:12:43,962 [phil] there are a lot of deer tracks over here. 251 00:12:44,030 --> 00:12:45,496 [bert] there are. 252 00:12:45,498 --> 00:12:47,799 But even I will quickly admit that looked nothing like a deer. 253 00:12:47,801 --> 00:12:49,801 [jess] that looked like a person's head and shoulders. 254 00:12:49,803 --> 00:12:53,705 [jess] I think bert captured a lost soul from the train disaster. 255 00:12:53,707 --> 00:12:57,275 This area is where the trains would have been. 256 00:12:57,277 --> 00:12:59,110 [bert] yes. 257 00:12:59,112 --> 00:13:02,313 [phil] I think what he caught on camera was a glimpse of an animal. 258 00:13:02,315 --> 00:13:05,416 And what he's heard, including the humming and singing, 259 00:13:05,418 --> 00:13:07,752 Might simply be the sounds of birds 260 00:13:07,854 --> 00:13:09,821 Echoing through the snow she 261 00:13:09,823 --> 00:13:15,326 So you got this footage essentially right on top of the accident site. 262 00:13:15,328 --> 00:13:16,461 Pretty much, yeah. 263 00:13:18,598 --> 00:13:21,699 The debris field's down this direction over here. 264 00:13:21,701 --> 00:13:23,134 [jess] ooh, okay. 265 00:13:23,136 --> 00:13:25,436 -[phil] right down there. So it's over this ledge. -[bert] right. 266 00:13:25,505 --> 00:13:27,405 -What else is down there? -The tye river. 267 00:13:27,407 --> 00:13:28,939 And then you'll see a bunch of debris. 268 00:13:29,009 --> 00:13:31,843 Well, jess, I think we should try to get down to the debris field... 269 00:13:31,912 --> 00:13:34,012 -Yeah. -... And do that before it gets dark. 270 00:13:34,014 --> 00:13:35,547 -Yeah. Thanks. -[bert] good luck. 271 00:13:35,615 --> 00:13:37,816 -See ya. -See ya later. 272 00:13:37,818 --> 00:13:41,319 [phil] we're going to have t get to the crash site the same way the train went 273 00:13:41,321 --> 00:13:42,854 All the way down this cliff 274 00:13:44,157 --> 00:13:46,791 -Oh, that is steep! -Do you have your gear? 275 00:13:46,793 --> 00:13:48,126 -I've got my gear. -Yeah. 276 00:13:48,128 --> 00:13:49,828 So, what, rope off to one of these trees? 277 00:13:49,830 --> 00:13:52,063 [jess] rope off to a tree and let's shimmy down. 278 00:14:00,106 --> 00:14:01,406 -[jess] you first? -Yeah. 279 00:14:11,484 --> 00:14:12,717 Okay. 280 00:14:12,719 --> 00:14:14,118 All right. I can see we're getting close. 281 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:15,753 You think that's gonna... That's not enough line. 282 00:14:15,822 --> 00:14:18,256 We'll see how far we can go. 283 00:14:19,926 --> 00:14:21,125 -Get ready. -Yeah. 284 00:14:24,965 --> 00:14:26,531 [phil] whoa! 285 00:14:26,533 --> 00:14:27,732 Oh! Are you all right? 286 00:14:28,702 --> 00:14:30,501 -I'm good. -Are you okay? 287 00:14:30,503 --> 00:14:32,203 Yeah. I'm good. 288 00:14:32,205 --> 00:14:34,706 Careful, careful. We've got a rockslide here. 289 00:14:35,842 --> 00:14:37,008 Look at this! 290 00:14:38,445 --> 00:14:40,511 [phil] oh, my god! 291 00:14:45,252 --> 00:14:47,218 [phil] careful, careful. We've got a rockslide here. 292 00:14:48,622 --> 00:14:49,654 Look at this! 293 00:14:49,723 --> 00:14:52,056 Oh, my god! 294 00:14:52,125 --> 00:14:55,860 Solid steel. Completely collapsed in. 295 00:14:55,962 --> 00:14:58,229 It got smashed. The rivets all popped out. 296 00:14:58,231 --> 00:15:01,633 Can you imagine? You're sitting there in a crowded car. 297 00:15:01,701 --> 00:15:03,401 -Mm-hmm. -Desperate for days. 298 00:15:03,403 --> 00:15:06,204 -And then this crushing force on top of it. -Yeah. 299 00:15:06,206 --> 00:15:08,206 It took them months to find all the bodies here. 300 00:15:08,208 --> 00:15:10,108 Months! Because of the conditions. 301 00:15:10,110 --> 00:15:12,310 Let's just keep that in mind while we're exploring. 302 00:15:12,312 --> 00:15:14,712 Let's remember that a lot of people passed away here. 303 00:15:14,714 --> 00:15:16,514 I mean, this is essentially, you know, a graveyard. 304 00:15:17,150 --> 00:15:18,716 Okay. 305 00:15:18,718 --> 00:15:20,919 [phil] lots of debris over here. 306 00:15:22,722 --> 00:15:24,856 The roots of this tree are growing right through, 307 00:15:24,924 --> 00:15:29,093 Right over this big piece of iron metal right here. 308 00:15:29,095 --> 00:15:32,230 It's just amazing to think that this forest has basically been growing back 309 00:15:32,232 --> 00:15:34,832 Over the top of this wreckage for over 100 years. 310 00:15:34,934 --> 00:15:36,301 [jess] all right, let me just take a picture. 311 00:15:36,303 --> 00:15:38,102 [jess] as I'm standing on top of the wreckage 312 00:15:38,104 --> 00:15:40,638 Where 96 people lost their lives, 313 00:15:40,707 --> 00:15:42,941 I'm suddenly struck with a heavy, uneasy feeling. 314 00:15:43,042 --> 00:15:48,346 There's probably a lot of train underneath where we can't even see it. 315 00:15:48,415 --> 00:15:52,417 I mean, it's a miracle that they found sarah's diary 316 00:15:53,053 --> 00:15:55,720 In this debris field. 317 00:15:55,722 --> 00:15:59,123 [jess] some believe spirits will remain in the spot where their life ended, 318 00:15:59,125 --> 00:16:01,059 So the words from sarah's journal and letters 319 00:16:01,127 --> 00:16:04,128 May help me reach out to her or the other avalanche victims. 320 00:16:05,231 --> 00:16:07,832 I'm gonna use sarah's letters 321 00:16:07,901 --> 00:16:11,502 To do a bit of a bit of a call and response with this recorder. 322 00:16:11,504 --> 00:16:15,640 It's voice activated so it will record if anybody answers. 323 00:16:15,742 --> 00:16:19,010 -Okay. Are you recording? -Yeah, I'm recording. 324 00:16:19,012 --> 00:16:22,613 Sarah, if you're with us, feel free to reach out and speak with us. 325 00:16:24,718 --> 00:16:28,619 "February 23rd, we're snowed in at the mouth of the tunnel, 326 00:16:28,621 --> 00:16:30,555 Twenty minutes of 11:00 a.M. 327 00:16:30,590 --> 00:16:32,757 I just got up from my bed. 328 00:16:32,859 --> 00:16:36,127 The mountains are beautiful, and we are all resting easy. 329 00:16:36,129 --> 00:16:38,029 They say it we may be here all day. 330 00:16:38,031 --> 00:16:40,331 The cars are warm and very nice." 331 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:42,466 Let's review it. 332 00:16:44,137 --> 00:16:47,939 [recorder] February 23rd. We are snowed in at the mou... Tunnel. 333 00:16:48,041 --> 00:16:49,874 Twenty minutes of eleven... 334 00:16:49,876 --> 00:16:53,511 Just got up from my bed... The mountain... Beautiful and we are all resting... 335 00:16:53,513 --> 00:16:54,912 We may be here all day. 336 00:16:54,914 --> 00:16:56,848 Okay, this is really weird. 337 00:16:57,817 --> 00:16:59,751 Why is it skipping? 338 00:16:59,819 --> 00:17:03,588 It's supposed to run when it hears somebody talking. 339 00:17:03,590 --> 00:17:05,623 So why was it continuously getting interrupted? 340 00:17:05,625 --> 00:17:11,129 Well, two options here. One, it's sucks at its job. 341 00:17:11,131 --> 00:17:13,231 Or two, there's some kind of interference. 342 00:17:14,401 --> 00:17:17,301 There's definitely a heavy vibe in the area. 343 00:17:17,303 --> 00:17:22,507 What I've been struck with is we've been to so many tragic places. 344 00:17:22,509 --> 00:17:27,745 I've never been to a place like this. Like, it just is depressing. 345 00:17:27,847 --> 00:17:29,414 -Really heavy. -Yeah. 346 00:17:29,416 --> 00:17:33,317 I think it's the tech, but also, jess, we're just getting started here. 347 00:17:33,319 --> 00:17:35,119 Who knows what we're gonna find? 348 00:17:37,724 --> 00:17:39,223 [jess] with the daylight fading fast, 349 00:17:39,225 --> 00:17:42,126 We make the tough climb back uphill to the snow shed 350 00:17:46,232 --> 00:17:50,701 Once it's dark, we'll be abl to better investigate bert's video. 351 00:17:50,703 --> 00:17:52,403 Phil thinks it may have been an animal. 352 00:17:52,405 --> 00:17:54,839 But I think bert may have captured an image 353 00:17:54,941 --> 00:17:57,942 Of a lost spirit from the train disaster. 354 00:17:58,011 --> 00:18:03,047 -What if we set up the camera to just record this area? -Okay. 355 00:18:04,617 --> 00:18:08,920 [jess] we aim a camera towards the pillar, and I set up a rem pod 356 00:18:08,922 --> 00:18:13,424 Which will alert us to any electromagnetic disturbance from a paranormal presence. 357 00:18:14,961 --> 00:18:16,661 [jess] okay, rem pod's up. 358 00:18:19,332 --> 00:18:22,400 All right, so I'm going to stay here and do a little call and response. 359 00:18:22,402 --> 00:18:25,303 That's your territory, I know. I'm gonna try and set up some trail cams round here 360 00:18:25,305 --> 00:18:28,639 To get an idea of what wildlife do pass through this corridor. 361 00:18:28,708 --> 00:18:31,409 I think animals might be the real source 362 00:18:31,411 --> 00:18:33,544 Of the sights and sounds people are reporting. 363 00:18:36,816 --> 00:18:38,716 -Okay, good luck out here. -Thanks, you too. 364 00:18:43,823 --> 00:18:45,723 Right here, guys. I think I've found the route up. 365 00:18:48,027 --> 00:18:51,429 [phil] I'm going to inspect the rest of the snow shed top to bottom 366 00:18:51,431 --> 00:18:54,098 Looking for signs of wildlif 367 00:18:54,100 --> 00:18:57,101 Watch your step here. We've definitely got to tread lightly around here 368 00:18:57,103 --> 00:18:59,804 Because this is old concrete structure. 369 00:18:59,806 --> 00:19:03,207 We definitely saw parts of it that had caved in when we were down below. 370 00:19:03,209 --> 00:19:07,745 And we've got this ledge. If you fall off, that's a good 30-foot drop. 371 00:19:07,814 --> 00:19:10,047 So we'll be careful. 372 00:19:11,551 --> 00:19:13,518 [jess] since our other devic was giving us problems, 373 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,521 I'm going to switch to our 360 recorder, 374 00:19:16,523 --> 00:19:20,558 An ultrasensitive mic that will pick up sounds from all directions. 375 00:19:20,627 --> 00:19:21,826 Record. 376 00:19:21,828 --> 00:19:24,629 If anyone responds, we'll capture it. 377 00:19:24,631 --> 00:19:26,964 So the plan is that I'm gonna go ahead and set this 378 00:19:26,966 --> 00:19:28,933 So that we can do a calm response. 379 00:19:28,935 --> 00:19:30,801 I have sarah's letters, 380 00:19:30,803 --> 00:19:32,904 I have the list of, uh, 381 00:19:32,906 --> 00:19:34,805 Victims of the avalanche. 382 00:19:34,807 --> 00:19:37,008 All right. We're good to go. 383 00:19:37,010 --> 00:19:39,110 Is there anyone here in the tunnel with us? 384 00:19:43,016 --> 00:19:45,216 What happened on the night of the avalanche? 385 00:19:51,624 --> 00:19:54,725 Sarah, were you disappointed that you weren't able to send off 386 00:19:54,727 --> 00:19:56,861 Your final letters to your family? 387 00:20:06,940 --> 00:20:08,306 [phil] all right. 388 00:20:08,308 --> 00:20:12,076 I've seen very little evidence of any animal activity. 389 00:20:12,078 --> 00:20:16,180 So, I'm gonna head back down, set a game cam right in the pathway 390 00:20:16,182 --> 00:20:18,849 Where bert reported some unusual activity. 391 00:20:22,655 --> 00:20:24,121 Is there anybody here with us? 392 00:20:29,529 --> 00:20:32,230 Sarah, just so you know, those letters did make it to your 393 00:20:32,232 --> 00:20:34,365 Great-great-granddaughter, sheila. 394 00:20:36,536 --> 00:20:37,802 [emf beeping] 395 00:20:42,609 --> 00:20:44,308 Are you standing over by the pillar? 396 00:20:51,017 --> 00:20:52,116 [faint whistling] 397 00:20:52,719 --> 00:20:53,851 What the [bleep]? 398 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:54,819 Was that a whistle? 399 00:20:54,821 --> 00:20:56,254 [cameraman speaking] 400 00:21:12,639 --> 00:21:14,005 I'm loving this spot right here 401 00:21:14,007 --> 00:21:17,141 Because there are footprints all over the place. 402 00:21:17,209 --> 00:21:21,545 Which means this gets a lot of wildlife traffic, 403 00:21:21,614 --> 00:21:25,016 Which means I'm gonna set up my trail cam right here. 404 00:21:36,663 --> 00:21:39,063 [jess] hello? Is there anyone here? 405 00:21:40,233 --> 00:21:41,198 [faint whistling] 406 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,100 [shushes] was that you? 407 00:21:43,703 --> 00:21:44,902 Did you just hear whistling? 408 00:21:44,904 --> 00:21:46,137 [cameraman speaking] 409 00:21:53,046 --> 00:21:54,312 [jess] is there anyone here? 410 00:21:55,715 --> 00:21:56,847 [faint whistling] 411 00:21:56,916 --> 00:21:58,249 [shushes] was that you? 412 00:21:59,118 --> 00:22:00,117 Did you just hear whistling? 413 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:01,452 [cameraman speaking] 414 00:22:12,932 --> 00:22:14,732 Hey, phil? Were you guys just whistling? 415 00:22:15,501 --> 00:22:17,802 I heard that too. 416 00:22:18,404 --> 00:22:20,204 What was that? 417 00:22:20,206 --> 00:22:23,741 [phil] a logical explanatio might some kind of bird. 418 00:22:23,843 --> 00:22:27,545 Several species like chickadees or swallows do live here 419 00:22:27,613 --> 00:22:29,046 And have shrill chirps. 420 00:22:29,315 --> 00:22:30,314 [chirps] 421 00:22:30,717 --> 00:22:32,016 [chirping] 422 00:22:32,018 --> 00:22:35,319 But the sound we heard was a single sustained note. 423 00:22:35,321 --> 00:22:37,421 Not a warbling bird song. 424 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,859 And most songbirds aren't nocturnal. 425 00:22:41,894 --> 00:22:44,362 So we'll see what our trail cams captured. 426 00:22:44,430 --> 00:22:46,764 [jess] I heard like someone with a whistle 427 00:22:46,833 --> 00:22:48,199 Right next to my ear. 428 00:22:48,201 --> 00:22:49,800 [phil] that is really weird 429 00:22:49,802 --> 00:22:52,837 Definitely sounded like it came from your direction. 430 00:22:52,938 --> 00:22:54,038 Let's meet back up. 431 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:55,539 Let's figure out where we are with this thing. 432 00:22:56,242 --> 00:22:58,242 [jess] copy. 433 00:22:58,311 --> 00:23:02,446 [phil] the whistling sound could also be a mixture of something entirely natura 434 00:23:02,515 --> 00:23:04,915 And something man made. 435 00:23:04,917 --> 00:23:10,221 In 2020, people noticed hig pitched howling noises across san francisco. 436 00:23:10,223 --> 00:23:13,124 An investigation determined the sound was wind blowing 437 00:23:13,126 --> 00:23:16,427 Through the slats of a newl retrofitted sidewalk railin 438 00:23:16,429 --> 00:23:18,129 Of the golden gate bridge. 439 00:23:18,131 --> 00:23:21,098 It's possible that wind blowing through these pillar 440 00:23:21,100 --> 00:23:23,200 Might also create some odd sounds. 441 00:23:23,202 --> 00:23:27,438 I've got something in my ki that I can use to put this idea to the test. 442 00:23:27,540 --> 00:23:29,540 -[whispering] smoke bomb. -That's cool! 443 00:23:29,642 --> 00:23:33,544 We'll be able to see where the wind goes, 444 00:23:33,646 --> 00:23:35,780 If it weaves around some of these pillars. 445 00:23:35,782 --> 00:23:39,150 That kind of helps us visualize what the sound could be doing too 446 00:23:39,251 --> 00:23:41,452 To get distorted through here. 447 00:23:41,554 --> 00:23:43,721 -Are you ready for this, jess? Okay. -Yeah. 448 00:23:52,865 --> 00:23:56,600 It's barely going past these pillars. 449 00:23:56,602 --> 00:23:57,701 [jess] mm-hmm. 450 00:23:57,703 --> 00:24:02,006 [phil] so it's really just a straight shot down. 451 00:24:04,043 --> 00:24:06,510 I was hoping to see some gusts coming through. 452 00:24:07,313 --> 00:24:08,712 Some vortices. 453 00:24:08,714 --> 00:24:10,247 [whispers] absolutely nothing. 454 00:24:10,249 --> 00:24:14,718 [jess] I mean, it doesn't seem breezy enough to make any whistling noises. 455 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,521 [phil] wind didn't cause th whistling sound we heard tonight. 456 00:24:17,957 --> 00:24:19,523 So what did? 457 00:24:19,525 --> 00:24:22,760 [jess] that whistle was definitely a response from someone. 458 00:24:22,829 --> 00:24:24,128 One thing that's certain, 459 00:24:24,130 --> 00:24:26,964 This place is really unsettling, 460 00:24:27,066 --> 00:24:28,265 Even phil seems to feel it. 461 00:24:28,301 --> 00:24:29,733 -We have a camera that's gonna pick up... -Game cam. 462 00:24:29,835 --> 00:24:31,135 ...Whatever walks around here. 463 00:24:31,204 --> 00:24:33,504 -Mm-hmm. -So, I say we call it a night 464 00:24:33,506 --> 00:24:37,708 -Because this place is creepy. I wanna get out of here. -It's creepy. 465 00:24:37,710 --> 00:24:40,878 But why? It's just animals, phil. 466 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,346 Don't worry about it. 467 00:24:42,415 --> 00:24:44,482 [phil] jess, some of those animals could be a mountain lion. 468 00:24:44,484 --> 00:24:45,916 -That would suck, yes. -You know? 469 00:24:50,323 --> 00:24:52,923 [phil] I've been thinking about possible explanations 470 00:24:52,925 --> 00:24:54,258 For what's going on around here 471 00:24:54,327 --> 00:24:56,126 And I wanna run a theory past josh. 472 00:24:57,163 --> 00:24:58,062 [josh] hey, you two. 473 00:24:58,163 --> 00:24:59,363 -Hey, josh! -Josh! 474 00:24:59,365 --> 00:25:01,298 [josh] I'm eager to hear how it's going out there. 475 00:25:01,300 --> 00:25:06,203 Jess, were you able to make contact with the spirits of the train passengers? 476 00:25:06,205 --> 00:25:07,805 [jess] I'm not sure yet. 477 00:25:07,807 --> 00:25:10,508 I reached out and I got some strange responses. 478 00:25:10,510 --> 00:25:11,642 A whistle. 479 00:25:11,644 --> 00:25:14,078 What like a train whistle or like a person whistling? 480 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,514 [jess] more like a whistle you'd blow. 481 00:25:16,516 --> 00:25:17,748 Listen to this. 482 00:25:17,783 --> 00:25:19,650 [faint whistling] 483 00:25:19,752 --> 00:25:22,152 So did train conductors carry whistles? 484 00:25:22,221 --> 00:25:26,123 You know that actually does sound kind of like those old time conductor whistles. 485 00:25:26,125 --> 00:25:28,125 Right? The ones that they would wear around their necks. 486 00:25:28,928 --> 00:25:30,728 [blows whistle] 487 00:25:30,730 --> 00:25:34,932 And there were something lik 60 crew members who died in that disaster. 488 00:25:35,001 --> 00:25:37,735 [jess] I feel like I need to learn more about the crew. 489 00:25:37,803 --> 00:25:40,804 Phil, you thought the wind could have been making the noises 490 00:25:40,806 --> 00:25:42,540 That people were hearing out there. 491 00:25:42,608 --> 00:25:45,709 And what do you think now? Could that have been what caused the whistling? 492 00:25:45,711 --> 00:25:47,211 [phil] well, there was no wind that night, 493 00:25:47,213 --> 00:25:49,113 So I don't know what made that whistle. 494 00:25:49,115 --> 00:25:50,681 I think we should analyze it 495 00:25:50,683 --> 00:25:53,551 Against the sounds of any known animals when we get back. 496 00:25:53,652 --> 00:25:57,321 [jess] the other odd thing is that we all felt kind of just off. 497 00:25:57,323 --> 00:26:00,457 Like a little nauseous and very uncomfortable. 498 00:26:00,526 --> 00:26:02,393 And we read that about this place, right? 499 00:26:02,395 --> 00:26:07,197 That some of the witnesses have noted feeling this unease and sense of dread there. 500 00:26:07,199 --> 00:26:09,800 Well, wellington's not at a high enough elevation 501 00:26:09,802 --> 00:26:12,102 For something like altitude sickness. 502 00:26:12,104 --> 00:26:14,805 [phil] I felt that before. This was something else. 503 00:26:14,807 --> 00:26:19,243 Pretty much everybody last night felt weird. 504 00:26:19,311 --> 00:26:21,412 Experienced strange feelings. 505 00:26:21,414 --> 00:26:23,480 Yes we were at a place where a lot of people died 506 00:26:23,482 --> 00:26:26,817 But I'm also wondering if there's something else going on here 507 00:26:26,819 --> 00:26:30,854 And that would be a sound that we can't actually hear. 508 00:26:30,923 --> 00:26:32,323 What do you mean a sound we can't hear? 509 00:26:32,325 --> 00:26:34,224 You mean like, infrasound or something? 510 00:26:34,627 --> 00:26:35,693 Exactly. 511 00:26:35,695 --> 00:26:37,328 So that's an interesting idea, right? 512 00:26:37,330 --> 00:26:41,398 I mean there are these frequencies that we can't actually hear with our ears 513 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:45,903 But scientists do suspect that they can impact how we feel. 514 00:26:45,905 --> 00:26:48,038 They can make people feel uneasy or scared. 515 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,041 It's even been suggested that those sort of frequencies 516 00:26:51,043 --> 00:26:53,744 Could be what makes a place seem haunted. 517 00:26:53,846 --> 00:26:57,848 Okay, well, if that's the case, then, where would the infrasound even come from? 518 00:26:57,917 --> 00:26:59,350 I guess that's the question. 519 00:26:59,451 --> 00:27:01,218 It's known to come from seismic activity, 520 00:27:01,220 --> 00:27:03,053 It can come from traffic, 521 00:27:03,055 --> 00:27:05,055 There's a lot of different sources out there, 522 00:27:05,057 --> 00:27:07,424 But I do wonder if it's railroad connected. 523 00:27:07,426 --> 00:27:09,126 -[train horn blowing] -oh, you hear that train right now? 524 00:27:09,128 --> 00:27:10,360 [jess] I do. 525 00:27:10,362 --> 00:27:11,762 [phil] josh, I'm not sure you can if hear right now, 526 00:27:11,864 --> 00:27:14,598 But there is a train going by somewhere in the distance. 527 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,200 Still an active railroad area 528 00:27:16,202 --> 00:27:18,435 Which actually could lead into the infrasound theory 529 00:27:18,537 --> 00:27:20,804 That maybe could be a train passing by. 530 00:27:20,806 --> 00:27:23,507 That's a cool theory, phil. I would love to have you test it out. 531 00:27:23,509 --> 00:27:26,510 And, jess, if you think the site is potentially haunted 532 00:27:26,512 --> 00:27:29,279 Not just by passengers but maybe by the crew, 533 00:27:29,281 --> 00:27:32,349 I have located someone who you absolutely have to meet. 534 00:27:32,451 --> 00:27:37,721 I found this railway historian who has extensively researched this incident 535 00:27:37,723 --> 00:27:39,423 And the people involved. 536 00:27:39,425 --> 00:27:41,725 [jess] great, send us the info, we'll go meet him. 537 00:27:41,727 --> 00:27:42,760 -[josh] great. -Sweet. 538 00:27:42,861 --> 00:27:44,361 -Awesome. Bye, josh. -We'll meet up with him. 539 00:27:44,463 --> 00:27:45,729 [josh] see you later. 540 00:27:49,435 --> 00:27:52,503 I'm sending phil and jess to meet kevin weiderstrom. 541 00:27:52,505 --> 00:27:54,338 A retired boeing mechanic, 542 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,508 He now maintains the histori skykomish depot. 543 00:27:57,510 --> 00:28:01,612 He's had a lifelong fascination with the story o the wellington train disaste 544 00:28:02,915 --> 00:28:06,617 He thinks there's more to th story than anyone has heard 545 00:28:06,619 --> 00:28:08,118 They tried to keep the death toll down. 546 00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:11,055 I personally think that there were a lot more people killed. 547 00:28:11,057 --> 00:28:13,123 -So you're saying there is a bit of a cover up? -Yes. 548 00:28:20,466 --> 00:28:23,500 -So you're saying there is a bit of a cover up? -Yes. 549 00:28:23,502 --> 00:28:27,604 -More people than 96 died? -Yes, probably up to 150. 550 00:28:27,606 --> 00:28:31,709 Lot of the other people were transient workers, they work couple of days and leave. 551 00:28:31,711 --> 00:28:35,145 So there's been nothing officially documenting saying they were there? 552 00:28:35,181 --> 00:28:36,379 No. Not at all. 553 00:28:36,381 --> 00:28:38,115 -Wow. -They tried to keep the death toll down 554 00:28:38,117 --> 00:28:39,483 Because people get scared. 555 00:28:39,485 --> 00:28:40,851 It was a psychological thing 556 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,254 As well as a thing for the railroad to keep in business. 557 00:28:45,825 --> 00:28:48,659 [jess] how were they able to get all of the bodies out of there? 558 00:28:48,761 --> 00:28:51,361 Well, it took weeks, they were taking the bodies, 559 00:28:51,463 --> 00:28:55,999 They put them on toboggans and went down all the way to windy point. 560 00:28:56,001 --> 00:28:57,935 Down the dead man's slide by rope. 561 00:28:57,937 --> 00:29:01,405 It's 800 to 1,000 feet down the side of the mountain, 562 00:29:01,407 --> 00:29:04,041 And right down here at scenic, that's where they went. 563 00:29:05,311 --> 00:29:08,479 -Obviously the old train route's no longer in use. -Right. 564 00:29:08,481 --> 00:29:10,247 But there's still a train that goes through here, 565 00:29:10,316 --> 00:29:12,116 -I mean we saw train tracks right outside. -Sure. Right. 566 00:29:12,118 --> 00:29:13,851 So does it pass by this area? 567 00:29:13,919 --> 00:29:16,420 It is below it, about a 1,000 feet below it. 568 00:29:18,424 --> 00:29:21,058 [jess] considering the strange whistle we heard last night, 569 00:29:21,127 --> 00:29:24,128 I wonder about the conducto on the doomed train. 570 00:29:24,130 --> 00:29:27,731 Could the sound be his signa from the other side? 571 00:29:27,733 --> 00:29:30,300 So, I wanna know about the conductor. What's his story? 572 00:29:30,302 --> 00:29:31,368 Pettit. 573 00:29:32,204 --> 00:29:34,238 [phil] kevin tells us that joseph pettit 574 00:29:34,306 --> 00:29:36,740 Was one of the handful of people who left the trai 575 00:29:36,842 --> 00:29:39,309 And hiked nearly four miles to safety. 576 00:29:39,311 --> 00:29:41,578 But with passengers strande on his train, 577 00:29:41,580 --> 00:29:44,615 The conductor didn't just walk away. 578 00:29:44,617 --> 00:29:45,849 [kevin] he was trying to get help. 579 00:29:45,918 --> 00:29:49,386 But he made his way back to the train 580 00:29:49,388 --> 00:29:52,055 And unfortunately he was killed in the avalanche. 581 00:29:53,826 --> 00:29:55,659 But that's beyond just doing your duty, 582 00:29:55,761 --> 00:29:57,961 -I mean he climbed a mountain for these people... -Right. 583 00:29:58,030 --> 00:29:59,830 ...And then died in the avalanche. 584 00:29:59,832 --> 00:30:01,298 -Died in the avalanche. -That is tragic. 585 00:30:01,300 --> 00:30:03,066 -So bad. -Yeah. 586 00:30:03,068 --> 00:30:06,804 [jess] armed with new information about where and who to investigate, 587 00:30:06,806 --> 00:30:09,239 We head back to the site of the disaster, 588 00:30:09,308 --> 00:30:11,140 The snow shed. 589 00:30:11,142 --> 00:30:14,478 [phil] I think infrasound waves coming from trains on the new set of tracks 590 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,747 Could be causing strange sensations 591 00:30:16,849 --> 00:30:19,716 That people might mistake for paranormal activity 592 00:30:19,718 --> 00:30:20,751 At the avalanche site. 593 00:30:25,057 --> 00:30:27,191 -So check this thing out. -Yeah, what is that? 594 00:30:27,259 --> 00:30:29,526 -This is a special microphone. -Oh. 595 00:30:29,528 --> 00:30:32,663 That can hear super high frequency 596 00:30:32,764 --> 00:30:34,464 And super low frequencies. 597 00:30:34,500 --> 00:30:37,100 -Anything 20 and above, we can hear. -Uh-huh. Got it. 598 00:30:37,102 --> 00:30:39,803 But once it gets too low, that becomes infrasound 599 00:30:39,805 --> 00:30:42,306 -And that's really what I'm interested in. -I see. Okay, gotcha. 600 00:30:42,308 --> 00:30:44,942 Lot of animals can hear infrasound 601 00:30:45,043 --> 00:30:46,710 And communicate through infrasound. 602 00:30:46,712 --> 00:30:47,845 -But we can't hear it. -Uh-huh. 603 00:30:47,946 --> 00:30:51,081 But the theory is, and it's even been proven in a lab, 604 00:30:51,083 --> 00:30:53,417 That it can make people feel weird, 605 00:30:53,419 --> 00:30:56,153 Certain frequencies can vibrate your eyeballs 606 00:30:56,255 --> 00:30:57,821 And make you almost see things. 607 00:30:57,823 --> 00:31:00,023 -That's kind of cool -I know. 608 00:31:00,025 --> 00:31:01,959 -So we've got this one set here. -Uh-huh. 609 00:31:02,027 --> 00:31:05,629 What I need to test is if when a train goes by at windy point 610 00:31:05,631 --> 00:31:11,501 Is that sound strong enough to essentially pass through a mountain and hit here. 611 00:31:11,503 --> 00:31:14,304 So if we get a really big spike 612 00:31:14,306 --> 00:31:16,206 This thing is connected to my phone 613 00:31:16,208 --> 00:31:17,841 And it will send me a message. 614 00:31:17,910 --> 00:31:20,644 So potentially what happens over there 615 00:31:20,713 --> 00:31:23,113 Could be correlated with what happens over here. 616 00:31:23,115 --> 00:31:26,216 -We've got ourselves a long hike ahead. -Oh, yes we do! 617 00:31:29,154 --> 00:31:31,355 [jess] these were conductor pettit's last steps 618 00:31:31,456 --> 00:31:35,225 And the route used by rescue to recover dozens of bodies 619 00:31:35,761 --> 00:31:37,027 [phil] wow! 620 00:31:38,831 --> 00:31:40,397 I'm getting tired. 621 00:31:40,399 --> 00:31:41,965 [jess] I'm getting tired too. 622 00:31:41,967 --> 00:31:46,503 [phil] this is a long way walk in not through overhead height snow. 623 00:31:46,505 --> 00:31:48,705 -[jess] yeah. -And not carrying a body behind you. 624 00:31:48,707 --> 00:31:51,208 And not worrying about an avalanche falling on top of you. 625 00:31:51,210 --> 00:31:52,910 [phil] yeah. 626 00:31:52,912 --> 00:31:56,246 -You feel that cold air? -[jess] yeah. Ooh! 627 00:31:56,315 --> 00:31:59,116 -Man, all the way from here you can feel that. -[phil] wow. 628 00:32:00,019 --> 00:32:02,252 [jess] oh, how cool is this? 629 00:32:02,321 --> 00:32:04,454 -Look at this thing! -[phil] ooh, that... 630 00:32:04,556 --> 00:32:08,058 -That's a huge tunnel! -[phil] ...Is a huge tunnel. 631 00:32:08,060 --> 00:32:09,459 Look at the size of this thing. 632 00:32:10,663 --> 00:32:12,129 -Wow. -[jess] all right. 633 00:32:12,131 --> 00:32:15,265 I mean that gets super dark, you wanna bust out the flashlights? 634 00:32:19,838 --> 00:32:21,238 At the far end of this, 635 00:32:21,307 --> 00:32:22,539 That's where the dead man's slide is, 636 00:32:22,608 --> 00:32:24,942 Where both the survivors went 637 00:32:24,944 --> 00:32:27,611 -And where all the dead bodies went down. -Exactly. 638 00:32:27,613 --> 00:32:29,346 So, I think while we have some daylight, 639 00:32:29,414 --> 00:32:31,014 We should try to book it to the far end. 640 00:32:36,121 --> 00:32:39,222 -This is uh, spooky. -[jess] this is creepy. 641 00:32:39,224 --> 00:32:40,524 [jess] spooky. 642 00:32:40,526 --> 00:32:42,192 [phil] oh, we've got a cave in up here. 643 00:32:42,194 --> 00:32:43,327 [jess] yeah. 644 00:32:43,329 --> 00:32:45,395 So really the only thing protecting us 645 00:32:45,397 --> 00:32:48,699 Are old wooden beams from the original tunnel. 646 00:32:48,701 --> 00:32:51,835 -That's comforting. Excellent. -That's something. Yeah. 647 00:32:51,937 --> 00:32:54,705 -Great. Cool. Let's keep walking. -[phil] perfect. 648 00:32:54,707 --> 00:32:58,608 [jess] this tunnel is a quarter mile long and pitch black. 649 00:32:58,610 --> 00:33:00,610 There is a definite chill in the air 650 00:33:00,612 --> 00:33:04,314 And I'm not convinced it's just the temperature. 651 00:33:04,316 --> 00:33:06,450 [phil] this thing is quite the piece of engineering. 652 00:33:06,518 --> 00:33:09,419 [jess] oh, yeah. Kind of scary. 653 00:33:10,489 --> 00:33:12,122 Which means right down here 654 00:33:12,124 --> 00:33:15,058 -This should be dead man's slide. -Oh, dead man's slide? 655 00:33:17,129 --> 00:33:18,762 [both panting] 656 00:33:18,831 --> 00:33:19,930 [phil] this is insane. 657 00:33:19,932 --> 00:33:21,465 [jess] so this is it? 658 00:33:21,533 --> 00:33:23,533 [phil] this is it. 659 00:33:23,602 --> 00:33:25,402 -Look how steep that is. -[jess] let me see. 660 00:33:26,305 --> 00:33:27,437 Careful! 661 00:33:27,506 --> 00:33:28,605 Oh, my gosh! 662 00:33:28,607 --> 00:33:30,507 Phil, I am uncomfortable with you doing that. 663 00:33:32,144 --> 00:33:35,846 -Oh, yeah that is so steep! -[phil] wow. 664 00:33:35,914 --> 00:33:41,051 -Look how far down this goes. -Imagine trying to transport bodies 665 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,587 In the winter down this. 666 00:33:43,589 --> 00:33:47,391 This is about, what? A 1,000 foot elevation drop? 667 00:33:47,393 --> 00:33:49,659 And imagine the conductor, pettit. 668 00:33:49,761 --> 00:33:51,528 -He was stuck back there in a blizzard. -[jess] yeah. 669 00:33:51,530 --> 00:33:54,364 Would have to get here, get all the way down the mountain, 670 00:33:54,433 --> 00:33:55,699 Ask for help, 671 00:33:55,701 --> 00:33:57,167 Climb all the way back up 672 00:33:57,169 --> 00:34:01,405 And then miles back to the train only to be killed in an avalanche. 673 00:34:01,407 --> 00:34:05,842 -Yep. That's rough. -That is some heroic effort with a tragic ending. 674 00:34:05,911 --> 00:34:07,811 Yeah, that is rough. 675 00:34:07,813 --> 00:34:09,713 All right, let's just set up for the investigation. 676 00:34:09,715 --> 00:34:12,049 All right, yeah. The sooner we get going the better. 677 00:34:12,117 --> 00:34:13,583 [jess] mm-hmm. 678 00:34:14,953 --> 00:34:18,055 All right, jess, somewhere down in that valley is a modern train. 679 00:34:18,156 --> 00:34:19,556 -Yeah. -So, I'm gonna go 680 00:34:19,658 --> 00:34:21,425 Down the trail on the outside of the tunnel 681 00:34:21,427 --> 00:34:23,060 And see if I can get a good eye line on it. 682 00:34:23,062 --> 00:34:24,694 Okay, I'm gonna go back inside the tunnel, 683 00:34:24,696 --> 00:34:27,064 I wanna try and track for any paranormal activity 684 00:34:27,066 --> 00:34:29,433 And see if it matches up with you're finding, 685 00:34:29,534 --> 00:34:31,601 On your end because if it does, 686 00:34:31,603 --> 00:34:34,204 Then maybe your theory is correct and if it doesn't, 687 00:34:34,206 --> 00:34:37,407 Then maybe my theory is correct and it might be haunted. 688 00:34:37,409 --> 00:34:38,708 -I'll take that wager. -All right. 689 00:34:38,710 --> 00:34:40,043 -So you got your walkie on you? -Sure do. 690 00:34:42,648 --> 00:34:43,513 Look at that. 691 00:34:45,517 --> 00:34:48,118 Right there. Wow. 692 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,354 Active train track way closer than I thought it would be 693 00:34:51,423 --> 00:34:52,689 And there's the tunnel. 694 00:34:52,691 --> 00:34:56,860 This is right next to the old track just 1,000 feet below. 695 00:34:57,763 --> 00:34:59,429 Okay. This is gonna be good. 696 00:35:02,201 --> 00:35:04,534 [jess] I head back towards the entrance of the tunnel 697 00:35:04,636 --> 00:35:07,237 And set up for a call and response session. 698 00:35:07,306 --> 00:35:09,005 All right, this seems to be a good spot. 699 00:35:10,642 --> 00:35:12,843 I'm going to reach out to conductor pettit 700 00:35:12,911 --> 00:35:16,446 Or any of the other lost sou whose bodies were transporte through here. 701 00:35:16,515 --> 00:35:17,414 All right. 702 00:35:18,050 --> 00:35:18,949 [machine humming] 703 00:35:26,024 --> 00:35:27,624 Is there anybody here with us? 704 00:35:31,430 --> 00:35:34,898 Were you one of the passengers 705 00:35:34,900 --> 00:35:38,301 On the train that was hit by the avalanche in 1910? 706 00:35:40,606 --> 00:35:42,806 Conductor pettit, can you hear me? 707 00:35:46,812 --> 00:35:49,613 [phil] all I have to do here is wait for a train. 708 00:35:49,615 --> 00:35:53,049 I'm expecting that seconds after a train rumbles throug 709 00:35:53,118 --> 00:35:56,520 We'll get a notification from the meter back at the avalanche site. 710 00:35:56,522 --> 00:35:58,622 Saying that it's picking up infrasound. 711 00:35:59,725 --> 00:36:01,525 [jess] did you work for the railroad? 712 00:36:06,431 --> 00:36:10,700 Are you angry that the railroad company tried to cover up so many deaths? 713 00:36:13,605 --> 00:36:15,105 [machine beeping] 714 00:36:15,107 --> 00:36:17,207 Joseph pettit, is that you? 715 00:36:21,413 --> 00:36:23,246 Oh, [bleep]! 716 00:36:24,249 --> 00:36:25,815 Ah, [bleep]! 717 00:36:25,817 --> 00:36:27,050 That was weird. 718 00:36:32,591 --> 00:36:34,824 [josh] the 1910 wellington avalanche 719 00:36:34,826 --> 00:36:38,762 Compelled researchers to figure out ways to preven future disasters. 720 00:36:39,731 --> 00:36:42,332 One method is to set up snow fences, 721 00:36:42,434 --> 00:36:45,235 Which can help control accumulation on the slopes. 722 00:36:45,904 --> 00:36:47,704 Another way? Explosives. 723 00:36:47,706 --> 00:36:49,339 [explosion] 724 00:36:50,709 --> 00:36:54,211 Intentionally using detonations to fracture the snow pack 725 00:36:54,213 --> 00:36:56,646 And trigger controlled slide 726 00:36:56,748 --> 00:36:59,416 Reducing the risks of unpredictable ones. 727 00:36:59,418 --> 00:37:03,420 That's done either by shooti the mountain side with live artillery rounds. 728 00:37:04,056 --> 00:37:05,455 [explosion] 729 00:37:08,961 --> 00:37:11,261 Or dropping charges from a helicopter. 730 00:37:15,100 --> 00:37:18,201 Or even having a very brave ski patrol 731 00:37:18,203 --> 00:37:20,003 Place explosives by hand. 732 00:37:20,005 --> 00:37:21,404 [explosion] 733 00:37:25,711 --> 00:37:28,712 Which I have to admit looks like a total blast. 734 00:37:34,253 --> 00:37:36,119 Oh, [bleep]! 735 00:37:37,322 --> 00:37:38,822 Ah, [bleep]! 736 00:37:38,824 --> 00:37:40,456 That was weird. 737 00:37:40,458 --> 00:37:44,427 The bizarre nauseated feelin we had at the crash site is back. 738 00:37:45,230 --> 00:37:46,630 Phil, do you copy? 739 00:37:49,434 --> 00:37:50,634 [phil] yeah, what's up? 740 00:37:51,603 --> 00:37:53,703 [jess] I had that queasy feeling again. 741 00:37:53,705 --> 00:37:56,339 It was so weird. 742 00:37:56,408 --> 00:37:58,341 I actually had to take the headphones off. 743 00:37:58,410 --> 00:38:01,611 Are you getting any readings on your meter just now? 744 00:38:01,613 --> 00:38:03,346 Do you see any trains coming through? 745 00:38:04,049 --> 00:38:05,315 [phil] stand by. 746 00:38:08,420 --> 00:38:09,953 [train horn blaring] 747 00:38:09,955 --> 00:38:12,055 Okay, you see that light? Right there. Right there. There's the train. 748 00:38:14,226 --> 00:38:15,625 Hear that rumble? 749 00:38:16,561 --> 00:38:17,727 We got a hit! 750 00:38:18,497 --> 00:38:20,130 [phil] jess! Jess! You there? 751 00:38:20,132 --> 00:38:21,398 Yeah, copy. 752 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,400 Jess, we just got the first hit 753 00:38:23,402 --> 00:38:27,404 From the infrasound meter miles away at the avalanche crash site. 754 00:38:27,406 --> 00:38:28,371 I'm gonna come your way 755 00:38:28,473 --> 00:38:30,473 Because I got the results I was looking for, 756 00:38:30,475 --> 00:38:32,609 So I wanna see what was happening on your end. 757 00:38:32,611 --> 00:38:34,678 Okay. I'll pack up and meet you. 758 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,212 All right. Coming in. Coming in. 759 00:38:41,620 --> 00:38:45,422 Wow, we got a major, like huge spike 760 00:38:45,424 --> 00:38:48,525 On the infrasound back at the avalanche site. 761 00:38:48,527 --> 00:38:50,660 You combine with the tragic history, 762 00:38:50,729 --> 00:38:53,663 I think there's a chance that some of the paranormal experiences 763 00:38:53,765 --> 00:38:55,932 They could be explained... 764 00:38:56,034 --> 00:38:57,801 -Mm-hmm. -...By that combination. 765 00:38:57,803 --> 00:39:01,404 [jess] the rem pod went off in the tunnel right befo the train arrived. 766 00:39:01,406 --> 00:39:04,708 But that device doesn't reac to infrasound. 767 00:39:04,710 --> 00:39:07,577 Maybe the train is acting as some sort of trigger 768 00:39:07,579 --> 00:39:10,313 For the ghosts of the avalanche victims, you know? 769 00:39:10,315 --> 00:39:14,050 I heard whistling next to my ear 770 00:39:14,119 --> 00:39:17,554 When we were over at the actual crash site. 771 00:39:17,655 --> 00:39:20,056 -Mm-hmm. -That wasn't infrasound. 772 00:39:20,125 --> 00:39:22,926 The mind can play a lot of tricks on you 773 00:39:22,928 --> 00:39:24,961 When you wanna hear what you wanna hear. 774 00:39:24,963 --> 00:39:27,597 I'd be interested in analyzing the audio that you got... 775 00:39:27,599 --> 00:39:29,599 -Yeah. -...Just to see if we can pick it apart better 776 00:39:29,601 --> 00:39:32,335 And figure what that actual noise was. 777 00:39:38,543 --> 00:39:40,744 [josh] when phil and jess returned from washington, 778 00:39:40,812 --> 00:39:43,413 We isolated the whistle sound from our footage. 779 00:39:44,216 --> 00:39:45,515 [whistling] 780 00:39:46,551 --> 00:39:48,351 We compared it to the vocalizations 781 00:39:48,420 --> 00:39:51,020 Of birds and mammals known to live in the region. 782 00:39:52,124 --> 00:39:53,323 [chirping] 783 00:39:58,029 --> 00:40:00,630 The whistle sound doesn't match up with any of them. 784 00:40:01,900 --> 00:40:05,602 Our cameras did capture various animals around the snow shed. 785 00:40:05,604 --> 00:40:08,938 But none of them seemed consistent with the ghostly figure 786 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,673 Caught on video. 787 00:40:13,712 --> 00:40:17,547 We analyzed the audio of jess's call and response at the snow shed 788 00:40:17,616 --> 00:40:18,748 And at the tunnel. 789 00:40:18,750 --> 00:40:21,050 [jess] is there anyone here in the tunnel with us? 790 00:40:21,052 --> 00:40:23,720 [josh] and there were a few strange sounds. 791 00:40:23,722 --> 00:40:28,591 But no singing, humming or anything we could identif as a voice. 792 00:40:28,593 --> 00:40:32,328 And there's no easy answer for what happened with jess's recorder 793 00:40:32,330 --> 00:40:35,565 As she read aloud the words of an avalanche victim. 794 00:40:35,633 --> 00:40:37,233 [jess or recorder] mountain... Beautiful and we're all... 795 00:40:37,335 --> 00:40:38,835 [jess] okay, this is really weird. 796 00:40:38,937 --> 00:40:40,403 [josh] we had the device checked out 797 00:40:40,405 --> 00:40:43,506 And it is in perfect working order. 798 00:40:43,508 --> 00:40:48,511 So, can we conclude whether lost souls from the wellingt train disaster 799 00:40:48,513 --> 00:40:50,447 Still haunt that mountainside? 800 00:40:50,548 --> 00:40:52,348 A reaction to infrasound 801 00:40:52,450 --> 00:40:54,217 Is a rational explanation 802 00:40:54,219 --> 00:40:57,954 For some of the alleged paranormal experiences reported. 803 00:40:57,956 --> 00:40:59,556 But as jess points out, 804 00:40:59,657 --> 00:41:02,625 It can't explain everything that witnesses have heard 805 00:41:02,627 --> 00:41:03,593 And seen. 806 00:41:04,663 --> 00:41:06,830 In light of such a terrible tragedy 807 00:41:06,832 --> 00:41:10,600 Perhaps there is some comfor in believing that the spiri of conductor pettit 808 00:41:10,602 --> 00:41:12,602 Is still looking out for his passengers 809 00:41:12,604 --> 00:41:13,703 That remain stranded. 810 00:41:14,439 --> 00:41:15,738 [whistle blows] 811 00:41:16,641 --> 00:41:19,709 Perhaps he's making sure their lives and their loss 812 00:41:19,711 --> 00:41:22,712 Will not be forgotten and buried by time. 813 00:41:24,850 --> 00:41:26,816 For more information on expedition x 814 00:41:26,818 --> 00:41:30,153 Head to discovery.Com/expeditionx.