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[josh] on this episode
of expedition x.
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[phil] look how steep that is.
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[jess] careful. Oh, my gosh.
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[josh] phil and jess
head to the wilds
of the pacific northwest.
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To investigate
a paranormal hotspot.
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[bert] I heard
a disembodied voice
of a woman humming.
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[josh] at the site
of horrific train tragedy.
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[phil] can you imagine,
you're sitting there
in a crowded car,
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-And then this crushing
force on top of it.
-[jess] yeah.
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This is essentially,
you know, a graveyard.
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[man] I personally think
that there were
a lot more people killed.
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-So, you're saying
there's a bit of a cover up?
-Yes.
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[josh] the truth behind
this haunting disaster
was kept hidden until now.
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So, you got this footage,
right on top
of the accident site?
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Yeah. I saw
the head right there.
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[josh] we uncover
the buried secrets of...
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[jess] is that you?
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Did you just hear whistling?
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[josh]
...The avalanche ghost train
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[josh] my name is josh gates
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In my travels,
I've experienced strange
things that defy logic,
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And made me
question everything.
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Oh, my god.
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[josh] now,
I've put together a team
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To investigate the
stranger side of the unknown
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Let's go.
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[josh] phil torres is
a scientist who hunts for
rational explanations.
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Jessica chobot's
paranormal research,
has made her a true believer
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If you're here with us,
knock again.
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[josh] together,
we're searching for answers
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[phil] what is
happening here, jess?
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[josh] to the world's most
extraordinary mysteries.
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This is expedition x.
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All right. Jess, phil,
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When was the last time
the two of you
took a trip by train?
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I took a lovely trip on a
bullet train a few years back
in japan.
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Yeah, I took a sleeper car
across europe
a few summers back.
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Nothing like falling asleep
to the rumble of a train.
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Both those sound lovely.
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Now, imagine
it's the dead of winter
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And a blizzard rolls in.
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Your train gets stuck.
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Snow is piling up
past the windows
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And you are trapped for days.
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Food is running low.
There is no heat,
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No power,
and then it gets worse.
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No wi-fi.
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That does sound like
your nightmare, jess.
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-It does.
-This is a real nightmare.
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This is actually a true story.
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And it goes down as
one of the deadliest
train disasters
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In american history.
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And some say,
that even now a century later,
the ghosts of that tragedy,
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Still haunt the mountains
of the pacific northwest.
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[josh] February 22nd, 1910.
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Winding through
the cascade mountains,
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The great northern railway,
passenger train number 25,
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Is on an east-west journey
from spokane to seattle.
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Aboard are 55 passengers.
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From commuting businessmen
to vacationing families.
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They expect an uneventful
overnight journey.
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But fate makes
the tiny town of wellington
their final stop.
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Snow begins falling
at up to a foot per hour.
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Burying the tracks under
20-foot-high drifts.
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Snow ploughs fail
and the train can't move.
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Days pass
and anxious passengers
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Are running low
on food and coal
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To heat the train cars.
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A few trek nearly
four miles through
stormy weather
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And deep snow drifts
to the next outpost.
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But most have to stay put
on the stranded train,
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Unable to make
the treacherous hike.
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Six days after
the train stalled,
the snow turns to rain.
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Everyone celebrates
believing that soon,
they'll be on their way agai
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But mother nature
has other plans.
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On March 1st around 1:30 a.M
lightning flashes.
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Thunder cracks.
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Suddenly a slab of ice,
more than a quarter-mile wid
roars down the mountain side
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Turning rocks and trees
into high speed projectiles
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That slam
into the helpless train,
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Hurling it
more than a 150 feet
into the ravine below.
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It's a mangled heap of metal
ice, splintered trees
and human bodies.
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Rescue crews managed
to pull 23 people to safety
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But the rest are dead.
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The final body isn't recover
until the end of July.
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The official death toll is 9
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The wellington disaster,
remains the deadliest
avalanche in us history.
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Now, over a century later,
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Hikers are reporting
paranormal activity
around the accident site.
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People claim
to hear ghostly voices,
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Laugher, strange humming
and singing,
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And an eerie unsettling
feeling that overtakes them
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One man captured on camera
what appears
to be an apparition.
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Reports of unexplained
phenomena around
the abandoned tracks
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Have escalated over
the past few months.
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So, the time
to investigate is now,
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Before snow
covers the evidence again.
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So what do you think?
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So much trauma, and death
concentrated in one location,
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I think it's gotta be haunted.
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I really wanna talk to the guy
that caught that ghostly image
on camera.
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Phil, what do you
make of the video?
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[phil] there are some
plausible explanations
for what he caught on tape.
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It could be
atmospheric conditions.
It could be an animal.
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It could be
a trick of the light.
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Yeah, but the witness also
said that he heard voices
at the disaster site
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And other people have
reported that too.
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So, this video's not
an isolated incident.
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But it's also a windy place.
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Wind can make strange sounds.
And so can wildlife.
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So, the two of you have got
to get up there
and check this out.
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You're gonna be the first team
on tv to ever
investigate the wreck
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And the paranormal claims
surrounding it.
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-That's kind of awesome.
-All right.
Get ready to see a ghost.
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Well, it sounds like
the two of you are all aboard.
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[groaning]
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I'm sorry.
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Just gonna let that one
wash over me.
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Please do.
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[josh] phil and jess,
fly 2200 miles
from new york
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To spokane, washington.
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From there,
it's a four hour drive west
into the cascade mountains.
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[jess] gorgeous.
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This is one of my favorite
patches in wilderness
in all the us.
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-I come here
every single spring.
-Mm-hmm.
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And yet I've never heard
this story about the train.
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-[jess] look at
this [bleep].
-[phil] oof!
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So, this is logging?
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[phil] all of these
downed trees,
this is not logging.
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This is wreckage
from an avalanche.
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What? Whoa!
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-[jess] whoa!
-[phil] are you kidding me?
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-[phil] look at that!
-[jess] I mean,
this is recent.
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[phil] oh, my god!
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Wow!
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[phil] oof!
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-[phil] that's incredible.
-[jess] there's snow.
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Ooh! That is just packed.
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[laughs]
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-Not cool, jess.
-Oh, come on.
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Have some fun.
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I mean, that is like
concrete though.
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You would never survive
getting hit by
something like that.
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Yeah. If you think about
all the snow pack
that happens here.
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And they say
in this area of washington,
they can get up to 25 feet.
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-Yeah.
-All gets compressed,
turns into this giant ice cube
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Just rushing down.
Look at what it did.
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Look how thick that tree is.
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[phil] avalanches occur
when wind,
rain or human activity
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Causes a layer of snow
to suddenly fracture and
detach from a mountain slope
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Sending thousands of tons
of snow, hurtling down
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At speeds of up to
200 miles per hour.
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Anyone below,
like those trapped
on the great northern train
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Would have only seconds
to try to escape.
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[jess] man, you can see,
like, the trees,
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How they're flattened
and bent like that.
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-[phil] yeah.
-Man!
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[josh] jess and phil
continue to skykomish
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Which would have been
one of the next stops
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On the train's
ill-fated journey.
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There, I've arranged for the
to meet someone
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Who has a very
personal connection
to the tragedy.
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Sheila hagar
is a local reporter.
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And a descendant
of one of
the avalanche victims.
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What kind of
sparked your desire
to find out more about
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Your great grandmother's
involvement
in the wellington avalanche?
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I just typed
my grandfather's name
into google.
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And I come across
this little tidbit about
sarah jane covington.
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And I'm just stunned.
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[jess] 69-year-old
sarah covington
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Was in spokane
caring for her sick son
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And was travelling alone
back to seattle
when the avalanche hit.
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She never made it home
to celebrate
her 51st wedding anniversary
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So nobody in the family
ever talked about this?
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Not to me.
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Not many people at all
knew that this 1910 avalanche
had occurred.
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When I wrote about it
people had no idea.
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I think the railroad company
did their very best
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To make sure it was forgotten.
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For them,
this was a terrible pr...
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-Mm-hmm.
-...Issue.
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If people were afraid
to go on that train
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They weren't
going to have customers.
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Josh had mentioned
that you'd actually
come across some of your
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Great-great grandmother's
writing from when
she was on the train.
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Yes.
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I don't know whether it was
on her body
when they found it.
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Or possibly in her luggage.
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What was going on
inside that train?
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Let me show you.
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[sheila] she's not
very worried when the train
actually gets snowbound.
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[sarah]
"February 27th, 1910.
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My dear husband and children
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I, with 100 or so,
are snowbound here."
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She does talk about
how one young man
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Was able to play music.
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He had a horn.
But that people
were very blue.
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[sarah] "quite a number
play cards and drink,
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Talk slang
and any old thing.
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We have no water
and very little fuel.
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I am trusting in god
to save us.
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Some are in deadly fear
that a landslide
will come down on us."
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Can we get a copy
of some of these documents?
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-You guys can take
all of this and pursue.
-[jess] awesome. Thank you.
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All of this!
What else do we have in here?
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[jess] victims list.
This is very helpful.
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-This is a great place
to start.
-Yeah.
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[jess] now that we have
more information about
who was on the train,
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We need to investigate
the actual site
of the disaster.
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It's a half-hour drive east
to where the accident happen
and the old train route.
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Then it's a hike
up to the site.
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I'm curious to connect with
whatever spirits
may be lingering here.
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Josh has arranged for us
to meet bert coates.
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A graphic designer,
he has lived in the area
for 40 years
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And spends most
of his weekends hiking
and camping in the mountains
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One night
around the disaster site,
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He captured and eerie figur
on camera.
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So you had an experience
around here.
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I did.
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-I hiked up here...
-[jess] mm-hmm.
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[bert] ...And I had heard
a disembodied voice of a wom
that just started humming.
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And then she started singing
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-[jess] really?
-[bert] but you couldn't
really make out the words
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Of what she was singing.
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-Did you recognize
the song at all?
-No, not at all.
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Did you know
the history of this place
before coming here?
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Not until after
I went back home.
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After the hike
I started looking
at the history of wellington.
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So, essentially, you had
your first experience here.
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-Yeah.
-And it sounds like
you kept coming back...
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-Oh, yeah.
-...At night to try
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-To figure out
what was happening?
-Yep.
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-So, the video, can you
show us what happened?
-Absolutely.
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[phil] all right.
235
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[jess] bert takes us
down the trail
to the snow shed.
236
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A massive half mile long
concrete structure
237
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Built after the avalanche
to shield the tracks
from future disasters.
238
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[phil] I definitely recognize
these pillars from your video.
239
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[bert] yeah.
240
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I'd hiked to the snow shed.
We started having problems
with the camera.
241
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The batteries
just started draining,
242
00:12:21,641 --> 00:12:24,642
So I stepped off to the sid
with the camera
243
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And I wasn't paying attentio
to what I was filming
when I captured the image.
244
00:12:29,282 --> 00:12:31,149
And so then you were recording
down in this direction?
245
00:12:31,251 --> 00:12:33,118
Yep. I was recording
right at that angle.
246
00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:34,119
Which pillar would it be?
247
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I saw the head right there.
248
00:12:38,558 --> 00:12:40,258
-So, here, right?
-Yes.
249
00:12:40,527 --> 00:12:41,559
Okay.
250
00:12:41,628 --> 00:12:43,962
[phil] there are a lot
of deer tracks over here.
251
00:12:44,030 --> 00:12:45,496
[bert] there are.
252
00:12:45,498 --> 00:12:47,799
But even I will quickly admit
that looked nothing
like a deer.
253
00:12:47,801 --> 00:12:49,801
[jess] that looked like
a person's head and shoulders.
254
00:12:49,803 --> 00:12:53,705
[jess] I think bert
captured a lost soul
from the train disaster.
255
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This area is where
the trains would have been.
256
00:12:57,277 --> 00:12:59,110
[bert] yes.
257
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[phil] I think
what he caught on camera
was a glimpse of an animal.
258
00:13:02,315 --> 00:13:05,416
And what he's heard,
including the humming
and singing,
259
00:13:05,418 --> 00:13:07,752
Might simply be
the sounds of birds
260
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Echoing through the snow she
261
00:13:09,823 --> 00:13:15,326
So you got this footage
essentially right on top
of the accident site.
262
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Pretty much, yeah.
263
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The debris field's
down this direction over here.
264
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[jess] ooh, okay.
265
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-[phil] right down there.
So it's over this ledge.
-[bert] right.
266
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-What else is down there?
-The tye river.
267
00:13:27,407 --> 00:13:28,939
And then you'll see
a bunch of debris.
268
00:13:29,009 --> 00:13:31,843
Well, jess, I think we should
try to get down to
the debris field...
269
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-Yeah.
-... And do that
before it gets dark.
270
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-Yeah. Thanks.
-[bert] good luck.
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-See ya.
-See ya later.
272
00:13:37,818 --> 00:13:41,319
[phil] we're going to have t
get to the crash site
the same way the train went
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All the way down this cliff
274
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-Oh, that is steep!
-Do you have your gear?
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-I've got my gear.
-Yeah.
276
00:13:48,128 --> 00:13:49,828
So, what, rope off
to one of these trees?
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[jess] rope off to a tree
and let's shimmy down.
278
00:14:00,106 --> 00:14:01,406
-[jess] you first?
-Yeah.
279
00:14:11,484 --> 00:14:12,717
Okay.
280
00:14:12,719 --> 00:14:14,118
All right.
I can see we're getting close.
281
00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:15,753
You think that's gonna...
That's not enough line.
282
00:14:15,822 --> 00:14:18,256
We'll see how far we can go.
283
00:14:19,926 --> 00:14:21,125
-Get ready.
-Yeah.
284
00:14:24,965 --> 00:14:26,531
[phil] whoa!
285
00:14:26,533 --> 00:14:27,732
Oh! Are you all right?
286
00:14:28,702 --> 00:14:30,501
-I'm good.
-Are you okay?
287
00:14:30,503 --> 00:14:32,203
Yeah. I'm good.
288
00:14:32,205 --> 00:14:34,706
Careful, careful.
We've got a rockslide here.
289
00:14:35,842 --> 00:14:37,008
Look at this!
290
00:14:38,445 --> 00:14:40,511
[phil] oh, my god!
291
00:14:45,252 --> 00:14:47,218
[phil] careful, careful.
We've got a rockslide here.
292
00:14:48,622 --> 00:14:49,654
Look at this!
293
00:14:49,723 --> 00:14:52,056
Oh, my god!
294
00:14:52,125 --> 00:14:55,860
Solid steel.
Completely collapsed in.
295
00:14:55,962 --> 00:14:58,229
It got smashed.
The rivets all popped out.
296
00:14:58,231 --> 00:15:01,633
Can you imagine?
You're sitting there
in a crowded car.
297
00:15:01,701 --> 00:15:03,401
-Mm-hmm.
-Desperate for days.
298
00:15:03,403 --> 00:15:06,204
-And then this crushing force
on top of it.
-Yeah.
299
00:15:06,206 --> 00:15:08,206
It took them months
to find all the bodies here.
300
00:15:08,208 --> 00:15:10,108
Months!
Because of the conditions.
301
00:15:10,110 --> 00:15:12,310
Let's just keep that in mind
while we're exploring.
302
00:15:12,312 --> 00:15:14,712
Let's remember that
a lot of people
passed away here.
303
00:15:14,714 --> 00:15:16,514
I mean, this is essentially,
you know, a graveyard.
304
00:15:17,150 --> 00:15:18,716
Okay.
305
00:15:18,718 --> 00:15:20,919
[phil] lots of debris
over here.
306
00:15:22,722 --> 00:15:24,856
The roots of this tree
are growing right through,
307
00:15:24,924 --> 00:15:29,093
Right over this big piece
of iron metal right here.
308
00:15:29,095 --> 00:15:32,230
It's just amazing to think
that this forest has basically
been growing back
309
00:15:32,232 --> 00:15:34,832
Over the top of this wreckage
for over 100 years.
310
00:15:34,934 --> 00:15:36,301
[jess] all right,
let me just take a picture.
311
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[jess] as I'm standing
on top of the wreckage
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Where 96 people
lost their lives,
313
00:15:40,707 --> 00:15:42,941
I'm suddenly struck with
a heavy, uneasy feeling.
314
00:15:43,042 --> 00:15:48,346
There's probably
a lot of train underneath
where we can't even see it.
315
00:15:48,415 --> 00:15:52,417
I mean, it's a miracle
that they found sarah's diary
316
00:15:53,053 --> 00:15:55,720
In this debris field.
317
00:15:55,722 --> 00:15:59,123
[jess] some believe spirits
will remain in the spot
where their life ended,
318
00:15:59,125 --> 00:16:01,059
So the words from sarah's
journal and letters
319
00:16:01,127 --> 00:16:04,128
May help me reach out
to her or the other
avalanche victims.
320
00:16:05,231 --> 00:16:07,832
I'm gonna use sarah's letters
321
00:16:07,901 --> 00:16:11,502
To do a bit of a bit
of a call and response
with this recorder.
322
00:16:11,504 --> 00:16:15,640
It's voice activated
so it will record
if anybody answers.
323
00:16:15,742 --> 00:16:19,010
-Okay. Are you recording?
-Yeah, I'm recording.
324
00:16:19,012 --> 00:16:22,613
Sarah, if you're with us,
feel free to reach out
and speak with us.
325
00:16:24,718 --> 00:16:28,619
"February 23rd,
we're snowed in
at the mouth of the tunnel,
326
00:16:28,621 --> 00:16:30,555
Twenty minutes of 11:00 a.M.
327
00:16:30,590 --> 00:16:32,757
I just got up from my bed.
328
00:16:32,859 --> 00:16:36,127
The mountains are beautiful,
and we are all resting easy.
329
00:16:36,129 --> 00:16:38,029
They say it we may be
here all day.
330
00:16:38,031 --> 00:16:40,331
The cars are warm
and very nice."
331
00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:42,466
Let's review it.
332
00:16:44,137 --> 00:16:47,939
[recorder] February 23rd.
We are snowed in
at the mou... Tunnel.
333
00:16:48,041 --> 00:16:49,874
Twenty minutes of eleven...
334
00:16:49,876 --> 00:16:53,511
Just got up from my bed...
The mountain... Beautiful
and we are all resting...
335
00:16:53,513 --> 00:16:54,912
We may be here all day.
336
00:16:54,914 --> 00:16:56,848
Okay, this is really weird.
337
00:16:57,817 --> 00:16:59,751
Why is it skipping?
338
00:16:59,819 --> 00:17:03,588
It's supposed to run
when it hears
somebody talking.
339
00:17:03,590 --> 00:17:05,623
So why was it continuously
getting interrupted?
340
00:17:05,625 --> 00:17:11,129
Well, two options here.
One, it's sucks at its job.
341
00:17:11,131 --> 00:17:13,231
Or two, there's
some kind of interference.
342
00:17:14,401 --> 00:17:17,301
There's definitely
a heavy vibe in the area.
343
00:17:17,303 --> 00:17:22,507
What I've been struck with is
we've been to so many
tragic places.
344
00:17:22,509 --> 00:17:27,745
I've never been
to a place like this.
Like, it just is depressing.
345
00:17:27,847 --> 00:17:29,414
-Really heavy.
-Yeah.
346
00:17:29,416 --> 00:17:33,317
I think it's the tech,
but also, jess, we're just
getting started here.
347
00:17:33,319 --> 00:17:35,119
Who knows
what we're gonna find?
348
00:17:37,724 --> 00:17:39,223
[jess] with the daylight
fading fast,
349
00:17:39,225 --> 00:17:42,126
We make the tough climb
back uphill to the snow shed
350
00:17:46,232 --> 00:17:50,701
Once it's dark, we'll be abl
to better investigate
bert's video.
351
00:17:50,703 --> 00:17:52,403
Phil thinks it may
have been an animal.
352
00:17:52,405 --> 00:17:54,839
But I think bert may
have captured an image
353
00:17:54,941 --> 00:17:57,942
Of a lost spirit
from the train disaster.
354
00:17:58,011 --> 00:18:03,047
-What if we set up the camera
to just record this area?
-Okay.
355
00:18:04,617 --> 00:18:08,920
[jess] we aim a camera
towards the pillar,
and I set up a rem pod
356
00:18:08,922 --> 00:18:13,424
Which will alert us to any
electromagnetic disturbance
from a paranormal presence.
357
00:18:14,961 --> 00:18:16,661
[jess] okay, rem pod's up.
358
00:18:19,332 --> 00:18:22,400
All right, so I'm going to
stay here and do
a little call and response.
359
00:18:22,402 --> 00:18:25,303
That's your territory, I know.
I'm gonna try and set up some
trail cams round here
360
00:18:25,305 --> 00:18:28,639
To get an idea
of what wildlife
do pass through this corridor.
361
00:18:28,708 --> 00:18:31,409
I think animals might be
the real source
362
00:18:31,411 --> 00:18:33,544
Of the sights and sounds
people are reporting.
363
00:18:36,816 --> 00:18:38,716
-Okay, good luck out here.
-Thanks, you too.
364
00:18:43,823 --> 00:18:45,723
Right here, guys.
I think I've found
the route up.
365
00:18:48,027 --> 00:18:51,429
[phil] I'm going to inspect
the rest of the snow shed
top to bottom
366
00:18:51,431 --> 00:18:54,098
Looking for signs of wildlif
367
00:18:54,100 --> 00:18:57,101
Watch your step here.
We've definitely got to
tread lightly around here
368
00:18:57,103 --> 00:18:59,804
Because this
is old concrete structure.
369
00:18:59,806 --> 00:19:03,207
We definitely saw parts of it
that had caved in
when we were down below.
370
00:19:03,209 --> 00:19:07,745
And we've got this ledge.
If you fall off,
that's a good 30-foot drop.
371
00:19:07,814 --> 00:19:10,047
So we'll be careful.
372
00:19:11,551 --> 00:19:13,518
[jess] since our other devic
was giving us problems,
373
00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,521
I'm going to switch
to our 360 recorder,
374
00:19:16,523 --> 00:19:20,558
An ultrasensitive mic
that will pick up sounds
from all directions.
375
00:19:20,627 --> 00:19:21,826
Record.
376
00:19:21,828 --> 00:19:24,629
If anyone responds,
we'll capture it.
377
00:19:24,631 --> 00:19:26,964
So the plan is that
I'm gonna go ahead
and set this
378
00:19:26,966 --> 00:19:28,933
So that we can
do a calm response.
379
00:19:28,935 --> 00:19:30,801
I have sarah's letters,
380
00:19:30,803 --> 00:19:32,904
I have the list of, uh,
381
00:19:32,906 --> 00:19:34,805
Victims of the avalanche.
382
00:19:34,807 --> 00:19:37,008
All right. We're good to go.
383
00:19:37,010 --> 00:19:39,110
Is there anyone here
in the tunnel with us?
384
00:19:43,016 --> 00:19:45,216
What happened on the night
of the avalanche?
385
00:19:51,624 --> 00:19:54,725
Sarah, were you disappointed
that you weren't able
to send off
386
00:19:54,727 --> 00:19:56,861
Your final letters
to your family?
387
00:20:06,940 --> 00:20:08,306
[phil] all right.
388
00:20:08,308 --> 00:20:12,076
I've seen very little evidence
of any animal activity.
389
00:20:12,078 --> 00:20:16,180
So, I'm gonna head back down,
set a game cam right
in the pathway
390
00:20:16,182 --> 00:20:18,849
Where bert reported
some unusual activity.
391
00:20:22,655 --> 00:20:24,121
Is there anybody here with us?
392
00:20:29,529 --> 00:20:32,230
Sarah, just so you know,
those letters did make it
to your
393
00:20:32,232 --> 00:20:34,365
Great-great-granddaughter,
sheila.
394
00:20:36,536 --> 00:20:37,802
[emf beeping]
395
00:20:42,609 --> 00:20:44,308
Are you standing over
by the pillar?
396
00:20:51,017 --> 00:20:52,116
[faint whistling]
397
00:20:52,719 --> 00:20:53,851
What the [bleep]?
398
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:54,819
Was that a whistle?
399
00:20:54,821 --> 00:20:56,254
[cameraman speaking]
400
00:21:12,639 --> 00:21:14,005
I'm loving this spot
right here
401
00:21:14,007 --> 00:21:17,141
Because there are footprints
all over the place.
402
00:21:17,209 --> 00:21:21,545
Which means this gets
a lot of wildlife traffic,
403
00:21:21,614 --> 00:21:25,016
Which means I'm gonna set up
my trail cam right here.
404
00:21:36,663 --> 00:21:39,063
[jess] hello?
Is there anyone here?
405
00:21:40,233 --> 00:21:41,198
[faint whistling]
406
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,100
[shushes] was that you?
407
00:21:43,703 --> 00:21:44,902
Did you just hear whistling?
408
00:21:44,904 --> 00:21:46,137
[cameraman speaking]
409
00:21:53,046 --> 00:21:54,312
[jess] is there anyone here?
410
00:21:55,715 --> 00:21:56,847
[faint whistling]
411
00:21:56,916 --> 00:21:58,249
[shushes] was that you?
412
00:21:59,118 --> 00:22:00,117
Did you just hear whistling?
413
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:01,452
[cameraman speaking]
414
00:22:12,932 --> 00:22:14,732
Hey, phil?
Were you guys just whistling?
415
00:22:15,501 --> 00:22:17,802
I heard that too.
416
00:22:18,404 --> 00:22:20,204
What was that?
417
00:22:20,206 --> 00:22:23,741
[phil] a logical explanatio
might some kind of bird.
418
00:22:23,843 --> 00:22:27,545
Several species like
chickadees or swallows
do live here
419
00:22:27,613 --> 00:22:29,046
And have shrill chirps.
420
00:22:29,315 --> 00:22:30,314
[chirps]
421
00:22:30,717 --> 00:22:32,016
[chirping]
422
00:22:32,018 --> 00:22:35,319
But the sound we heard was
a single sustained note.
423
00:22:35,321 --> 00:22:37,421
Not a warbling bird song.
424
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,859
And most songbirds
aren't nocturnal.
425
00:22:41,894 --> 00:22:44,362
So we'll see what
our trail cams captured.
426
00:22:44,430 --> 00:22:46,764
[jess] I heard like someone
with a whistle
427
00:22:46,833 --> 00:22:48,199
Right next to my ear.
428
00:22:48,201 --> 00:22:49,800
[phil] that is really weird
429
00:22:49,802 --> 00:22:52,837
Definitely sounded like
it came from your direction.
430
00:22:52,938 --> 00:22:54,038
Let's meet back up.
431
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:55,539
Let's figure out where
we are with this thing.
432
00:22:56,242 --> 00:22:58,242
[jess] copy.
433
00:22:58,311 --> 00:23:02,446
[phil] the whistling sound
could also be a mixture
of something entirely natura
434
00:23:02,515 --> 00:23:04,915
And something man made.
435
00:23:04,917 --> 00:23:10,221
In 2020, people noticed hig
pitched howling noises
across san francisco.
436
00:23:10,223 --> 00:23:13,124
An investigation determined
the sound was wind blowing
437
00:23:13,126 --> 00:23:16,427
Through the slats of a newl
retrofitted sidewalk railin
438
00:23:16,429 --> 00:23:18,129
Of the golden gate bridge.
439
00:23:18,131 --> 00:23:21,098
It's possible that wind
blowing through these pillar
440
00:23:21,100 --> 00:23:23,200
Might also create
some odd sounds.
441
00:23:23,202 --> 00:23:27,438
I've got something in my ki
that I can use to put
this idea to the test.
442
00:23:27,540 --> 00:23:29,540
-[whispering] smoke bomb.
-That's cool!
443
00:23:29,642 --> 00:23:33,544
We'll be able to see
where the wind goes,
444
00:23:33,646 --> 00:23:35,780
If it weaves around some
of these pillars.
445
00:23:35,782 --> 00:23:39,150
That kind of helps us
visualize what the
sound could be doing too
446
00:23:39,251 --> 00:23:41,452
To get distorted through here.
447
00:23:41,554 --> 00:23:43,721
-Are you ready for this, jess?
Okay.
-Yeah.
448
00:23:52,865 --> 00:23:56,600
It's barely going past
these pillars.
449
00:23:56,602 --> 00:23:57,701
[jess] mm-hmm.
450
00:23:57,703 --> 00:24:02,006
[phil] so it's really just
a straight shot down.
451
00:24:04,043 --> 00:24:06,510
I was hoping to see some
gusts coming through.
452
00:24:07,313 --> 00:24:08,712
Some vortices.
453
00:24:08,714 --> 00:24:10,247
[whispers] absolutely nothing.
454
00:24:10,249 --> 00:24:14,718
[jess] I mean, it doesn't
seem breezy enough to make
any whistling noises.
455
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,521
[phil] wind didn't cause th
whistling sound
we heard tonight.
456
00:24:17,957 --> 00:24:19,523
So what did?
457
00:24:19,525 --> 00:24:22,760
[jess] that whistle
was definitely a response
from someone.
458
00:24:22,829 --> 00:24:24,128
One thing that's certain,
459
00:24:24,130 --> 00:24:26,964
This place
is really unsettling,
460
00:24:27,066 --> 00:24:28,265
Even phil seems to feel it.
461
00:24:28,301 --> 00:24:29,733
-We have a camera
that's gonna pick up...
-Game cam.
462
00:24:29,835 --> 00:24:31,135
...Whatever walks around here.
463
00:24:31,204 --> 00:24:33,504
-Mm-hmm.
-So, I say we call it a night
464
00:24:33,506 --> 00:24:37,708
-Because this place is creepy.
I wanna get out of here.
-It's creepy.
465
00:24:37,710 --> 00:24:40,878
But why?
It's just animals, phil.
466
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,346
Don't worry about it.
467
00:24:42,415 --> 00:24:44,482
[phil] jess, some of those
animals could
be a mountain lion.
468
00:24:44,484 --> 00:24:45,916
-That would suck, yes.
-You know?
469
00:24:50,323 --> 00:24:52,923
[phil] I've been thinking
about possible explanations
470
00:24:52,925 --> 00:24:54,258
For what's going on
around here
471
00:24:54,327 --> 00:24:56,126
And I wanna run a theory
past josh.
472
00:24:57,163 --> 00:24:58,062
[josh] hey, you two.
473
00:24:58,163 --> 00:24:59,363
-Hey, josh!
-Josh!
474
00:24:59,365 --> 00:25:01,298
[josh] I'm eager to hear
how it's going out there.
475
00:25:01,300 --> 00:25:06,203
Jess, were you able to make
contact with the spirits
of the train passengers?
476
00:25:06,205 --> 00:25:07,805
[jess] I'm not sure yet.
477
00:25:07,807 --> 00:25:10,508
I reached out and I got some
strange responses.
478
00:25:10,510 --> 00:25:11,642
A whistle.
479
00:25:11,644 --> 00:25:14,078
What like a train whistle
or like a person whistling?
480
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,514
[jess] more like a whistle
you'd blow.
481
00:25:16,516 --> 00:25:17,748
Listen to this.
482
00:25:17,783 --> 00:25:19,650
[faint whistling]
483
00:25:19,752 --> 00:25:22,152
So did train conductors
carry whistles?
484
00:25:22,221 --> 00:25:26,123
You know that actually does
sound kind of like those
old time conductor whistles.
485
00:25:26,125 --> 00:25:28,125
Right? The ones that they
would wear around their necks.
486
00:25:28,928 --> 00:25:30,728
[blows whistle]
487
00:25:30,730 --> 00:25:34,932
And there were something lik
60 crew members
who died in that disaster.
488
00:25:35,001 --> 00:25:37,735
[jess] I feel like I need
to learn more about the crew.
489
00:25:37,803 --> 00:25:40,804
Phil, you thought the wind
could have been
making the noises
490
00:25:40,806 --> 00:25:42,540
That people were hearing
out there.
491
00:25:42,608 --> 00:25:45,709
And what do you think now?
Could that have been what
caused the whistling?
492
00:25:45,711 --> 00:25:47,211
[phil] well, there was
no wind that night,
493
00:25:47,213 --> 00:25:49,113
So I don't know
what made that whistle.
494
00:25:49,115 --> 00:25:50,681
I think we should analyze it
495
00:25:50,683 --> 00:25:53,551
Against the sounds of any
known animals
when we get back.
496
00:25:53,652 --> 00:25:57,321
[jess] the other odd thing
is that we all felt kind
of just off.
497
00:25:57,323 --> 00:26:00,457
Like a little nauseous
and very uncomfortable.
498
00:26:00,526 --> 00:26:02,393
And we read that about
this place, right?
499
00:26:02,395 --> 00:26:07,197
That some of the witnesses
have noted feeling this unease
and sense of dread there.
500
00:26:07,199 --> 00:26:09,800
Well, wellington's not at a
high enough elevation
501
00:26:09,802 --> 00:26:12,102
For something like
altitude sickness.
502
00:26:12,104 --> 00:26:14,805
[phil] I felt that before.
This was something else.
503
00:26:14,807 --> 00:26:19,243
Pretty much everybody
last night felt weird.
504
00:26:19,311 --> 00:26:21,412
Experienced strange feelings.
505
00:26:21,414 --> 00:26:23,480
Yes we were at a place
where a lot of people died
506
00:26:23,482 --> 00:26:26,817
But I'm also wondering
if there's something
else going on here
507
00:26:26,819 --> 00:26:30,854
And that would be a sound
that we can't actually hear.
508
00:26:30,923 --> 00:26:32,323
What do you mean
a sound we can't hear?
509
00:26:32,325 --> 00:26:34,224
You mean like, infrasound
or something?
510
00:26:34,627 --> 00:26:35,693
Exactly.
511
00:26:35,695 --> 00:26:37,328
So that's
an interesting idea, right?
512
00:26:37,330 --> 00:26:41,398
I mean there are these
frequencies that we can't
actually hear with our ears
513
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:45,903
But scientists do suspect that
they can impact how we feel.
514
00:26:45,905 --> 00:26:48,038
They can make people
feel uneasy or scared.
515
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,041
It's even been suggested that
those sort of frequencies
516
00:26:51,043 --> 00:26:53,744
Could be what makes
a place seem haunted.
517
00:26:53,846 --> 00:26:57,848
Okay, well, if that's
the case, then, where would
the infrasound even come from?
518
00:26:57,917 --> 00:26:59,350
I guess that's the question.
519
00:26:59,451 --> 00:27:01,218
It's known to come
from seismic activity,
520
00:27:01,220 --> 00:27:03,053
It can come from traffic,
521
00:27:03,055 --> 00:27:05,055
There's a lot of different
sources out there,
522
00:27:05,057 --> 00:27:07,424
But I do wonder
if it's railroad connected.
523
00:27:07,426 --> 00:27:09,126
-[train horn blowing]
-oh, you hear that
train right now?
524
00:27:09,128 --> 00:27:10,360
[jess] I do.
525
00:27:10,362 --> 00:27:11,762
[phil] josh, I'm not sure
you can if hear right now,
526
00:27:11,864 --> 00:27:14,598
But there is a train going by
somewhere in the distance.
527
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,200
Still an active railroad area
528
00:27:16,202 --> 00:27:18,435
Which actually could lead into
the infrasound theory
529
00:27:18,537 --> 00:27:20,804
That maybe could
be a train passing by.
530
00:27:20,806 --> 00:27:23,507
That's a cool theory, phil.
I would love
to have you test it out.
531
00:27:23,509 --> 00:27:26,510
And, jess, if you think the
site is potentially haunted
532
00:27:26,512 --> 00:27:29,279
Not just by passengers
but maybe by the crew,
533
00:27:29,281 --> 00:27:32,349
I have located someone who you
absolutely have to meet.
534
00:27:32,451 --> 00:27:37,721
I found this railway historian
who has extensively researched
this incident
535
00:27:37,723 --> 00:27:39,423
And the people involved.
536
00:27:39,425 --> 00:27:41,725
[jess] great,
send us the info,
we'll go meet him.
537
00:27:41,727 --> 00:27:42,760
-[josh] great.
-Sweet.
538
00:27:42,861 --> 00:27:44,361
-Awesome. Bye, josh.
-We'll meet up with him.
539
00:27:44,463 --> 00:27:45,729
[josh] see you later.
540
00:27:49,435 --> 00:27:52,503
I'm sending phil and jess
to meet kevin weiderstrom.
541
00:27:52,505 --> 00:27:54,338
A retired boeing mechanic,
542
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,508
He now maintains the histori
skykomish depot.
543
00:27:57,510 --> 00:28:01,612
He's had a lifelong
fascination with the story o
the wellington train disaste
544
00:28:02,915 --> 00:28:06,617
He thinks there's more to th
story than anyone has heard
545
00:28:06,619 --> 00:28:08,118
They tried to keep
the death toll down.
546
00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:11,055
I personally think that there
were a lot more people killed.
547
00:28:11,057 --> 00:28:13,123
-So you're saying there
is a bit of a cover up?
-Yes.
548
00:28:20,466 --> 00:28:23,500
-So you're saying there
is a bit of a cover up?
-Yes.
549
00:28:23,502 --> 00:28:27,604
-More people than 96 died?
-Yes, probably up to 150.
550
00:28:27,606 --> 00:28:31,709
Lot of the other people were
transient workers, they work
couple of days and leave.
551
00:28:31,711 --> 00:28:35,145
So there's been nothing
officially documenting
saying they were there?
552
00:28:35,181 --> 00:28:36,379
No. Not at all.
553
00:28:36,381 --> 00:28:38,115
-Wow.
-They tried to keep
the death toll down
554
00:28:38,117 --> 00:28:39,483
Because people get scared.
555
00:28:39,485 --> 00:28:40,851
It was a psychological thing
556
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,254
As well as a thing
for the railroad to keep
in business.
557
00:28:45,825 --> 00:28:48,659
[jess] how were they able
to get all of the bodies
out of there?
558
00:28:48,761 --> 00:28:51,361
Well, it took weeks,
they were taking the bodies,
559
00:28:51,463 --> 00:28:55,999
They put them on toboggans
and went down all the way
to windy point.
560
00:28:56,001 --> 00:28:57,935
Down the dead man's slide
by rope.
561
00:28:57,937 --> 00:29:01,405
It's 800 to 1,000 feet down
the side of the mountain,
562
00:29:01,407 --> 00:29:04,041
And right down here at scenic,
that's where they went.
563
00:29:05,311 --> 00:29:08,479
-Obviously the old train
route's no longer in use.
-Right.
564
00:29:08,481 --> 00:29:10,247
But there's still a train
that goes through here,
565
00:29:10,316 --> 00:29:12,116
-I mean we saw train tracks
right outside.
-Sure. Right.
566
00:29:12,118 --> 00:29:13,851
So does it pass by this area?
567
00:29:13,919 --> 00:29:16,420
It is below it,
about a 1,000 feet below it.
568
00:29:18,424 --> 00:29:21,058
[jess] considering
the strange whistle
we heard last night,
569
00:29:21,127 --> 00:29:24,128
I wonder about the conducto
on the doomed train.
570
00:29:24,130 --> 00:29:27,731
Could the sound be his signa
from the other side?
571
00:29:27,733 --> 00:29:30,300
So, I wanna know
about the conductor.
What's his story?
572
00:29:30,302 --> 00:29:31,368
Pettit.
573
00:29:32,204 --> 00:29:34,238
[phil] kevin tells us that
joseph pettit
574
00:29:34,306 --> 00:29:36,740
Was one of the handful
of people who left the trai
575
00:29:36,842 --> 00:29:39,309
And hiked nearly
four miles to safety.
576
00:29:39,311 --> 00:29:41,578
But with passengers strande
on his train,
577
00:29:41,580 --> 00:29:44,615
The conductor
didn't just walk away.
578
00:29:44,617 --> 00:29:45,849
[kevin] he was trying
to get help.
579
00:29:45,918 --> 00:29:49,386
But he made his way back
to the train
580
00:29:49,388 --> 00:29:52,055
And unfortunately he was
killed in the avalanche.
581
00:29:53,826 --> 00:29:55,659
But that's beyond
just doing your duty,
582
00:29:55,761 --> 00:29:57,961
-I mean he climbed a mountain
for these people...
-Right.
583
00:29:58,030 --> 00:29:59,830
...And then died
in the avalanche.
584
00:29:59,832 --> 00:30:01,298
-Died in the avalanche.
-That is tragic.
585
00:30:01,300 --> 00:30:03,066
-So bad.
-Yeah.
586
00:30:03,068 --> 00:30:06,804
[jess] armed with new
information about where
and who to investigate,
587
00:30:06,806 --> 00:30:09,239
We head back to the site
of the disaster,
588
00:30:09,308 --> 00:30:11,140
The snow shed.
589
00:30:11,142 --> 00:30:14,478
[phil] I think infrasound
waves coming from trains
on the new set of tracks
590
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,747
Could be causing
strange sensations
591
00:30:16,849 --> 00:30:19,716
That people might mistake
for paranormal activity
592
00:30:19,718 --> 00:30:20,751
At the avalanche site.
593
00:30:25,057 --> 00:30:27,191
-So check this thing out.
-Yeah, what is that?
594
00:30:27,259 --> 00:30:29,526
-This is a special microphone.
-Oh.
595
00:30:29,528 --> 00:30:32,663
That can hear super
high frequency
596
00:30:32,764 --> 00:30:34,464
And super low frequencies.
597
00:30:34,500 --> 00:30:37,100
-Anything 20 and above,
we can hear.
-Uh-huh. Got it.
598
00:30:37,102 --> 00:30:39,803
But once it gets too low,
that becomes infrasound
599
00:30:39,805 --> 00:30:42,306
-And that's really
what I'm interested in.
-I see. Okay, gotcha.
600
00:30:42,308 --> 00:30:44,942
Lot of animals
can hear infrasound
601
00:30:45,043 --> 00:30:46,710
And communicate
through infrasound.
602
00:30:46,712 --> 00:30:47,845
-But we can't hear it.
-Uh-huh.
603
00:30:47,946 --> 00:30:51,081
But the theory is, and it's
even been proven in a lab,
604
00:30:51,083 --> 00:30:53,417
That it can make people
feel weird,
605
00:30:53,419 --> 00:30:56,153
Certain frequencies
can vibrate your eyeballs
606
00:30:56,255 --> 00:30:57,821
And make you almost
see things.
607
00:30:57,823 --> 00:31:00,023
-That's kind of cool
-I know.
608
00:31:00,025 --> 00:31:01,959
-So we've got
this one set here.
-Uh-huh.
609
00:31:02,027 --> 00:31:05,629
What I need to test is if when
a train goes by at windy point
610
00:31:05,631 --> 00:31:11,501
Is that sound strong enough
to essentially pass through
a mountain and hit here.
611
00:31:11,503 --> 00:31:14,304
So if we get a really
big spike
612
00:31:14,306 --> 00:31:16,206
This thing is connected
to my phone
613
00:31:16,208 --> 00:31:17,841
And it will send me a message.
614
00:31:17,910 --> 00:31:20,644
So potentially what happens
over there
615
00:31:20,713 --> 00:31:23,113
Could be correlated with what
happens over here.
616
00:31:23,115 --> 00:31:26,216
-We've got ourselves
a long hike ahead.
-Oh, yes we do!
617
00:31:29,154 --> 00:31:31,355
[jess] these were conductor
pettit's last steps
618
00:31:31,456 --> 00:31:35,225
And the route used by rescue
to recover dozens of bodies
619
00:31:35,761 --> 00:31:37,027
[phil] wow!
620
00:31:38,831 --> 00:31:40,397
I'm getting tired.
621
00:31:40,399 --> 00:31:41,965
[jess] I'm getting
tired too.
622
00:31:41,967 --> 00:31:46,503
[phil] this is a long way
walk in not through
overhead height snow.
623
00:31:46,505 --> 00:31:48,705
-[jess] yeah.
-And not carrying
a body behind you.
624
00:31:48,707 --> 00:31:51,208
And not worrying about
an avalanche falling
on top of you.
625
00:31:51,210 --> 00:31:52,910
[phil] yeah.
626
00:31:52,912 --> 00:31:56,246
-You feel that cold air?
-[jess] yeah. Ooh!
627
00:31:56,315 --> 00:31:59,116
-Man, all the way from here
you can feel that.
-[phil] wow.
628
00:32:00,019 --> 00:32:02,252
[jess] oh, how cool is this?
629
00:32:02,321 --> 00:32:04,454
-Look at this thing!
-[phil] ooh, that...
630
00:32:04,556 --> 00:32:08,058
-That's a huge tunnel!
-[phil] ...Is a huge tunnel.
631
00:32:08,060 --> 00:32:09,459
Look at the size
of this thing.
632
00:32:10,663 --> 00:32:12,129
-Wow.
-[jess] all right.
633
00:32:12,131 --> 00:32:15,265
I mean that gets super dark,
you wanna bust
out the flashlights?
634
00:32:19,838 --> 00:32:21,238
At the far end of this,
635
00:32:21,307 --> 00:32:22,539
That's where
the dead man's slide is,
636
00:32:22,608 --> 00:32:24,942
Where both the survivors went
637
00:32:24,944 --> 00:32:27,611
-And where all the dead bodies
went down.
-Exactly.
638
00:32:27,613 --> 00:32:29,346
So, I think while
we have some daylight,
639
00:32:29,414 --> 00:32:31,014
We should try to book
it to the far end.
640
00:32:36,121 --> 00:32:39,222
-This is uh, spooky.
-[jess] this is creepy.
641
00:32:39,224 --> 00:32:40,524
[jess] spooky.
642
00:32:40,526 --> 00:32:42,192
[phil] oh, we've got a cave
in up here.
643
00:32:42,194 --> 00:32:43,327
[jess] yeah.
644
00:32:43,329 --> 00:32:45,395
So really the only thing
protecting us
645
00:32:45,397 --> 00:32:48,699
Are old wooden beams
from the original tunnel.
646
00:32:48,701 --> 00:32:51,835
-That's comforting.
Excellent.
-That's something. Yeah.
647
00:32:51,937 --> 00:32:54,705
-Great. Cool.
Let's keep walking.
-[phil] perfect.
648
00:32:54,707 --> 00:32:58,608
[jess] this tunnel
is a quarter mile long
and pitch black.
649
00:32:58,610 --> 00:33:00,610
There is a definite chill
in the air
650
00:33:00,612 --> 00:33:04,314
And I'm not convinced
it's just the temperature.
651
00:33:04,316 --> 00:33:06,450
[phil] this thing is quite
the piece of engineering.
652
00:33:06,518 --> 00:33:09,419
[jess] oh, yeah.
Kind of scary.
653
00:33:10,489 --> 00:33:12,122
Which means right down here
654
00:33:12,124 --> 00:33:15,058
-This should
be dead man's slide.
-Oh, dead man's slide?
655
00:33:17,129 --> 00:33:18,762
[both panting]
656
00:33:18,831 --> 00:33:19,930
[phil] this is insane.
657
00:33:19,932 --> 00:33:21,465
[jess] so this is it?
658
00:33:21,533 --> 00:33:23,533
[phil] this is it.
659
00:33:23,602 --> 00:33:25,402
-Look how steep that is.
-[jess] let me see.
660
00:33:26,305 --> 00:33:27,437
Careful!
661
00:33:27,506 --> 00:33:28,605
Oh, my gosh!
662
00:33:28,607 --> 00:33:30,507
Phil, I am uncomfortable
with you doing that.
663
00:33:32,144 --> 00:33:35,846
-Oh, yeah that is so steep!
-[phil] wow.
664
00:33:35,914 --> 00:33:41,051
-Look how far down this goes.
-Imagine trying
to transport bodies
665
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,587
In the winter down this.
666
00:33:43,589 --> 00:33:47,391
This is about, what?
A 1,000 foot elevation drop?
667
00:33:47,393 --> 00:33:49,659
And imagine
the conductor, pettit.
668
00:33:49,761 --> 00:33:51,528
-He was stuck back there
in a blizzard.
-[jess] yeah.
669
00:33:51,530 --> 00:33:54,364
Would have to get here,
get all the way
down the mountain,
670
00:33:54,433 --> 00:33:55,699
Ask for help,
671
00:33:55,701 --> 00:33:57,167
Climb all the way back up
672
00:33:57,169 --> 00:34:01,405
And then miles back to the
train only to be killed
in an avalanche.
673
00:34:01,407 --> 00:34:05,842
-Yep. That's rough.
-That is some heroic effort
with a tragic ending.
674
00:34:05,911 --> 00:34:07,811
Yeah, that is rough.
675
00:34:07,813 --> 00:34:09,713
All right, let's just set up
for the investigation.
676
00:34:09,715 --> 00:34:12,049
All right, yeah.
The sooner we get going
the better.
677
00:34:12,117 --> 00:34:13,583
[jess] mm-hmm.
678
00:34:14,953 --> 00:34:18,055
All right, jess, somewhere
down in that valley
is a modern train.
679
00:34:18,156 --> 00:34:19,556
-Yeah.
-So, I'm gonna go
680
00:34:19,658 --> 00:34:21,425
Down the trail on the
outside of the tunnel
681
00:34:21,427 --> 00:34:23,060
And see if I can get a good
eye line on it.
682
00:34:23,062 --> 00:34:24,694
Okay, I'm gonna go back
inside the tunnel,
683
00:34:24,696 --> 00:34:27,064
I wanna try and track
for any paranormal activity
684
00:34:27,066 --> 00:34:29,433
And see if it matches up
with you're finding,
685
00:34:29,534 --> 00:34:31,601
On your end
because if it does,
686
00:34:31,603 --> 00:34:34,204
Then maybe your theory
is correct and if it doesn't,
687
00:34:34,206 --> 00:34:37,407
Then maybe my theory
is correct
and it might be haunted.
688
00:34:37,409 --> 00:34:38,708
-I'll take that wager.
-All right.
689
00:34:38,710 --> 00:34:40,043
-So you got your walkie
on you?
-Sure do.
690
00:34:42,648 --> 00:34:43,513
Look at that.
691
00:34:45,517 --> 00:34:48,118
Right there. Wow.
692
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,354
Active train track way closer
than I thought it would be
693
00:34:51,423 --> 00:34:52,689
And there's the tunnel.
694
00:34:52,691 --> 00:34:56,860
This is right next to the old
track just 1,000 feet below.
695
00:34:57,763 --> 00:34:59,429
Okay. This is gonna be good.
696
00:35:02,201 --> 00:35:04,534
[jess] I head back towards
the entrance of the tunnel
697
00:35:04,636 --> 00:35:07,237
And set up for a call
and response session.
698
00:35:07,306 --> 00:35:09,005
All right, this seems
to be a good spot.
699
00:35:10,642 --> 00:35:12,843
I'm going to reach out
to conductor pettit
700
00:35:12,911 --> 00:35:16,446
Or any of the other lost sou
whose bodies were transporte
through here.
701
00:35:16,515 --> 00:35:17,414
All right.
702
00:35:18,050 --> 00:35:18,949
[machine humming]
703
00:35:26,024 --> 00:35:27,624
Is there anybody here with us?
704
00:35:31,430 --> 00:35:34,898
Were you one of the passengers
705
00:35:34,900 --> 00:35:38,301
On the train that was hit by
the avalanche in 1910?
706
00:35:40,606 --> 00:35:42,806
Conductor pettit,
can you hear me?
707
00:35:46,812 --> 00:35:49,613
[phil] all I have to do here
is wait for a train.
708
00:35:49,615 --> 00:35:53,049
I'm expecting that seconds
after a train rumbles throug
709
00:35:53,118 --> 00:35:56,520
We'll get a notification
from the meter back
at the avalanche site.
710
00:35:56,522 --> 00:35:58,622
Saying that it's picking up
infrasound.
711
00:35:59,725 --> 00:36:01,525
[jess] did you work
for the railroad?
712
00:36:06,431 --> 00:36:10,700
Are you angry that the
railroad company tried
to cover up so many deaths?
713
00:36:13,605 --> 00:36:15,105
[machine beeping]
714
00:36:15,107 --> 00:36:17,207
Joseph pettit, is that you?
715
00:36:21,413 --> 00:36:23,246
Oh, [bleep]!
716
00:36:24,249 --> 00:36:25,815
Ah, [bleep]!
717
00:36:25,817 --> 00:36:27,050
That was weird.
718
00:36:32,591 --> 00:36:34,824
[josh] the 1910 wellington
avalanche
719
00:36:34,826 --> 00:36:38,762
Compelled researchers
to figure out ways to preven
future disasters.
720
00:36:39,731 --> 00:36:42,332
One method
is to set up snow fences,
721
00:36:42,434 --> 00:36:45,235
Which can help control
accumulation on the slopes.
722
00:36:45,904 --> 00:36:47,704
Another way? Explosives.
723
00:36:47,706 --> 00:36:49,339
[explosion]
724
00:36:50,709 --> 00:36:54,211
Intentionally using
detonations to fracture
the snow pack
725
00:36:54,213 --> 00:36:56,646
And trigger controlled slide
726
00:36:56,748 --> 00:36:59,416
Reducing the risks
of unpredictable ones.
727
00:36:59,418 --> 00:37:03,420
That's done either by shooti
the mountain side
with live artillery rounds.
728
00:37:04,056 --> 00:37:05,455
[explosion]
729
00:37:08,961 --> 00:37:11,261
Or dropping charges
from a helicopter.
730
00:37:15,100 --> 00:37:18,201
Or even having
a very brave ski patrol
731
00:37:18,203 --> 00:37:20,003
Place explosives by hand.
732
00:37:20,005 --> 00:37:21,404
[explosion]
733
00:37:25,711 --> 00:37:28,712
Which I have to admit looks
like a total blast.
734
00:37:34,253 --> 00:37:36,119
Oh, [bleep]!
735
00:37:37,322 --> 00:37:38,822
Ah, [bleep]!
736
00:37:38,824 --> 00:37:40,456
That was weird.
737
00:37:40,458 --> 00:37:44,427
The bizarre nauseated feelin
we had at the crash site
is back.
738
00:37:45,230 --> 00:37:46,630
Phil, do you copy?
739
00:37:49,434 --> 00:37:50,634
[phil] yeah, what's up?
740
00:37:51,603 --> 00:37:53,703
[jess] I had that queasy
feeling again.
741
00:37:53,705 --> 00:37:56,339
It was so weird.
742
00:37:56,408 --> 00:37:58,341
I actually had
to take the headphones off.
743
00:37:58,410 --> 00:38:01,611
Are you getting any readings
on your meter just now?
744
00:38:01,613 --> 00:38:03,346
Do you see any trains
coming through?
745
00:38:04,049 --> 00:38:05,315
[phil] stand by.
746
00:38:08,420 --> 00:38:09,953
[train horn blaring]
747
00:38:09,955 --> 00:38:12,055
Okay, you see that light?
Right there. Right there.
There's the train.
748
00:38:14,226 --> 00:38:15,625
Hear that rumble?
749
00:38:16,561 --> 00:38:17,727
We got a hit!
750
00:38:18,497 --> 00:38:20,130
[phil] jess! Jess!
You there?
751
00:38:20,132 --> 00:38:21,398
Yeah, copy.
752
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,400
Jess, we just got
the first hit
753
00:38:23,402 --> 00:38:27,404
From the infrasound meter
miles away at the avalanche
crash site.
754
00:38:27,406 --> 00:38:28,371
I'm gonna come your way
755
00:38:28,473 --> 00:38:30,473
Because I got the results
I was looking for,
756
00:38:30,475 --> 00:38:32,609
So I wanna see what was
happening on your end.
757
00:38:32,611 --> 00:38:34,678
Okay. I'll pack up
and meet you.
758
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,212
All right. Coming in.
Coming in.
759
00:38:41,620 --> 00:38:45,422
Wow, we got a major,
like huge spike
760
00:38:45,424 --> 00:38:48,525
On the infrasound back
at the avalanche site.
761
00:38:48,527 --> 00:38:50,660
You combine with the
tragic history,
762
00:38:50,729 --> 00:38:53,663
I think there's a chance
that some of the paranormal
experiences
763
00:38:53,765 --> 00:38:55,932
They could be explained...
764
00:38:56,034 --> 00:38:57,801
-Mm-hmm.
-...By that combination.
765
00:38:57,803 --> 00:39:01,404
[jess] the rem pod went
off in the tunnel right befo
the train arrived.
766
00:39:01,406 --> 00:39:04,708
But that device doesn't reac
to infrasound.
767
00:39:04,710 --> 00:39:07,577
Maybe the train is acting
as some sort of trigger
768
00:39:07,579 --> 00:39:10,313
For the ghosts of the
avalanche victims, you know?
769
00:39:10,315 --> 00:39:14,050
I heard whistling next
to my ear
770
00:39:14,119 --> 00:39:17,554
When we were over
at the actual crash site.
771
00:39:17,655 --> 00:39:20,056
-Mm-hmm.
-That wasn't infrasound.
772
00:39:20,125 --> 00:39:22,926
The mind can play a lot
of tricks on you
773
00:39:22,928 --> 00:39:24,961
When you wanna hear
what you wanna hear.
774
00:39:24,963 --> 00:39:27,597
I'd be interested in
analyzing the audio
that you got...
775
00:39:27,599 --> 00:39:29,599
-Yeah.
-...Just to see if we can pick
it apart better
776
00:39:29,601 --> 00:39:32,335
And figure what
that actual noise was.
777
00:39:38,543 --> 00:39:40,744
[josh] when phil and jess
returned from washington,
778
00:39:40,812 --> 00:39:43,413
We isolated the whistle
sound from our footage.
779
00:39:44,216 --> 00:39:45,515
[whistling]
780
00:39:46,551 --> 00:39:48,351
We compared
it to the vocalizations
781
00:39:48,420 --> 00:39:51,020
Of birds and mammals known
to live in the region.
782
00:39:52,124 --> 00:39:53,323
[chirping]
783
00:39:58,029 --> 00:40:00,630
The whistle sound doesn't
match up with any of them.
784
00:40:01,900 --> 00:40:05,602
Our cameras did capture
various animals around
the snow shed.
785
00:40:05,604 --> 00:40:08,938
But none of them
seemed consistent
with the ghostly figure
786
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,673
Caught on video.
787
00:40:13,712 --> 00:40:17,547
We analyzed the audio
of jess's call and response
at the snow shed
788
00:40:17,616 --> 00:40:18,748
And at the tunnel.
789
00:40:18,750 --> 00:40:21,050
[jess] is there anyone here
in the tunnel with us?
790
00:40:21,052 --> 00:40:23,720
[josh] and there were a few
strange sounds.
791
00:40:23,722 --> 00:40:28,591
But no singing, humming
or anything we could identif
as a voice.
792
00:40:28,593 --> 00:40:32,328
And there's no easy answer
for what happened
with jess's recorder
793
00:40:32,330 --> 00:40:35,565
As she read aloud the words
of an avalanche victim.
794
00:40:35,633 --> 00:40:37,233
[jess or recorder]
mountain... Beautiful
and we're all...
795
00:40:37,335 --> 00:40:38,835
[jess] okay,
this is really weird.
796
00:40:38,937 --> 00:40:40,403
[josh] we had the device
checked out
797
00:40:40,405 --> 00:40:43,506
And it is in perfect
working order.
798
00:40:43,508 --> 00:40:48,511
So, can we conclude whether
lost souls from the wellingt
train disaster
799
00:40:48,513 --> 00:40:50,447
Still haunt
that mountainside?
800
00:40:50,548 --> 00:40:52,348
A reaction to infrasound
801
00:40:52,450 --> 00:40:54,217
Is a rational explanation
802
00:40:54,219 --> 00:40:57,954
For some of the alleged
paranormal experiences
reported.
803
00:40:57,956 --> 00:40:59,556
But as jess points out,
804
00:40:59,657 --> 00:41:02,625
It can't explain everything
that witnesses have heard
805
00:41:02,627 --> 00:41:03,593
And seen.
806
00:41:04,663 --> 00:41:06,830
In light of such
a terrible tragedy
807
00:41:06,832 --> 00:41:10,600
Perhaps there is some comfor
in believing that the spiri
of conductor pettit
808
00:41:10,602 --> 00:41:12,602
Is still looking out
for his passengers
809
00:41:12,604 --> 00:41:13,703
That remain stranded.
810
00:41:14,439 --> 00:41:15,738
[whistle blows]
811
00:41:16,641 --> 00:41:19,709
Perhaps he's making sure
their lives and their loss
812
00:41:19,711 --> 00:41:22,712
Will not be forgotten
and buried by time.
813
00:41:24,850 --> 00:41:26,816
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814
00:41:26,818 --> 00:41:30,153
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