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>>> VERY EXCITING TO BE BACK IN
ROME AGAIN.

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AT EVERY TURN THERE’S SOMETHING
OF HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE.

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LOOK AT THAT.
IT’S LITERALLY LIKE YOU’RE

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LIVING INSIDE A MUSEUM.
EVEN IF YOU’VE NEVER BEEN TO

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ROME, YOU’VE BEEN TO ROME.
ITS STORIES HAVE BEEN TOLD AND

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RETOLD ON STAGE AND SCREEN.
THE CITY OF TOGAS AND

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GLADIATORS, POWER AND INTRIGUE,
EMPIRE AND RUIN.

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AND OF COURSE LA DOLCE, VITA,
THE GOOD LIFE.

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I’M STANLEY TUCCI, ITALIAN ON
BOTH SIDES AND I’M TRAVELING

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ACROSS ITALY TO DISCOVER HOW THE
FOOD IN THIS COUNTRY’S 20

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REGIONS ARE AS UNIQUE AS THEIR
PAST.

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THE FAMOUS ANCIENTS OF ROME ONCE
RULED THE WORLD.

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BUT I’M HERE TO DISCOVER HOW
IT’S THE FOOD OF ORDINARY ROMANS

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THAT HAS CONQUERED OUR HEARTS.
BUT I’M GOING TO WARN YOU.

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IF YOU’RE ON A LOW CARB DIET,
BEWARE.

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YOU’RE GOING TO SEE A LOT OF
PASTA IN THIS SHOW.

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I MEAN LIKE A LOT OF IT, A LOT.
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>> I’VE BEEN VISITING ROME FOR
DECADES.

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ITS BEAUTY AND HISTORY STILL
LEAVE MY BREATHLESS, BUT

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SOMETIMES IT’S DIFFICULT TO FIND
A GOOD MEAL IF YOU DON’T KNOW

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WHERE TO LOOK.
ROME IS SITUATED IN A REGION

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SOMETIMES OVERLOOKED IN FAVOR OF
ITS GRANDER GASTRONOMIC

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NEIGHBORS LIKE TUSCANY AND
UBRIA.

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BUT LAZIO HAS FED ROME FOR
CENTURIES AND EVERY PART OF THE

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SHEEP AND PIGS RAISED HERE IS
PUT TO USE IN KITCHENS ACROSS

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THE CITY TO MAKE DEEPLY
FLAVORSOME FOOD.

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TO START MY JOURNEY I’M CATCHING
UP WITH MY OLD FRIEND CLAUDIA.

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SHE’S LIVED HER VIRTUALLY HER
WHOLE LIFE.

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AND HER CARDINAL RULE FOR GOOD
FOOD IS WHEN IN ROME EAT AS THE

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ROMANS DO.
>> ARE YOU OKAY?

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>> I’M SO HAPPY TO SEE YOU.
>> IT WAS A LONG TIME.

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>> IT WAS A LONG TIME.
SOMEHOW ALMOST 30 YEARS HAS

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SLIPPED BY SINCE WE FIRST BECAME
FRIENDS WHEN WE WORKED ON A

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MOVIE HERE TOGETHER.
>> I THINK THAT YOU CAME LAST

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TIME ‐‐
>> THE VERY FIRST TIME WAS LIKE

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’95.
>> NO, I THINK ’93 BECAUSE IT

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WAS ‐‐
>> I DIDN’T KNOW I WAS THAT OLD.

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>> I KNOW, ME NEITHER.
LET’S NOT MENTION IT.

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>> CLAUDIA, WANTS TO TAKE ME FOR
A CLASSIC ROMAN PASTA LUNCH, BUT

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WITH AN HOUR TO KILL WE DECIDE
TO GET A COFFEE AND REMINISCE.

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>> IT’S A REAL INSTITUTION.
>> BUT THAT’S WHERE WE WENT A

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LONG TIME AGO.
>> YEAH, YEAH.

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WE WERE THERE EVERY EVENING YOU
KNOW?

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>> BACK IN THE ’90s WE USED TO
HANG OUT IN A GREAT CAFE IN A

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GRIMY PART OF TOWN VERY MUCH ON
THE WRONG SIDE OF THE RIVER.

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AND HERE WE ARE.
AND I WAS PLEASED TO HEAR IT’S

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STILL GOING STRONG.
>> YOU REMEMBER?

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>> YES, I DO.
I DO.

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>> WHAT’S THERE?
THE PICTURE YOU GAVE THEM IN

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’93.
IT IS EXACTLY IN THE SAME PLACE.

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I THINK NOTHING CHANGED IN THIS
PLACE.

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>> NO, IT HASN’T CHANGED.
A LITTLE ESPRESSO WOULD BE JUST

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ENOUGH TO WHET OUR APPETITES
BEFORE WE GO TO LUNCH.

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OR SO I THOUGHT.
>> I KNOW, I KNOW.

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>> WHAT’S THAT?
WHO’S JOINING US?

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THESE ARE ROMAN BREAKFAST WITH A
2,000‐YEAR‐OLD ROMAN HISTORY.

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IN THE MIDDLE AGES THEY WERE ONE
OF IT FEW THINGS THE CHURCH

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ALLOWED YOU TO EAT DURING LENT.
IT DOESN’T SEEM VERY SAINTLY TO

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ME.
IS IT LIKE A BRIOCHE?

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>> IT’S FRIED, A SORT OF
DOUGHNUT WITH EGG CREAM.

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THE ITALIANS DON’T EAT BREAKFAST
LIKE THE AMERICANS OR THE DUTCH

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EAT BREAKFAST BECAUSE THEY DON’T
EAT EGGS.

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IT’S ALWAYS SOMETHING SWEET.

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NICE TO SEE YOU AGAIN.
CIAO.

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AS WE STAGGERED OFF OUR
BREAKFAST AND HEADED THROUGH I

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NOTICED THE AREA WAS MUCH BUSIER
AND HIPPER THAN YEARS AGO.

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>> THIS WAS THE POOR QUARTERS.
YOU SEE THE BUILDINGS AS NICE AS

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THEY ARE ARE VERY SMALL.
>> RIGHT.

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>> AND THEN, OF COURSE, AS IT
HAPPENS, YOU KNOW, THE OLD

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QUARTERS GOT VERY TRENDY AND
EVERYBODY WANTED TO LIVE HERE.

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>> AND THEY BECOME MORE
JENTRIFIED.

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THE CITY MAY BE CHANGING BUT ONE
THING AS CONSTANT AS THE ANCIENT

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LANDMARKS IS HOW MUCH PEOPLE IN
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FOUR‐STAR DISHES IN PARTICULAR
HAVE BECOME AN EMBLEM OF THE

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CITY.
AND CLAUDIA IS TAKING ME TO FIND

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OUT MORE AT A PLACE SHE SAYS THE
IS PANTHEON OF PASTA.

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THE RESTAURANT IS FULLY BOOKED.
>> BUT WE DON’T CARE.

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TELL ME SOME MORE ABOUT PASTA IN
ROME.

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>> PASTA IN ROME IS LIKE YOU EAT
IT EVERY DAY.

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I MEAN, YOU DON’T LIVE WITHOUT
PASTA.

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AND EVERYBODY HAS ITS OWN
RECIPE, AND OF COURSE IT’S THE

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BEST EVER AND YOURS IS NOTHING
COMPARED TO MINE.

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>> IT’S TRUE.
IT DOES BECOME VERY TERRITORIAL,

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DOESN’T IT?
>> YEAH.

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>> ROMANS REVERE WHAT THEY CALL
THE FOUR PASTAS.

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>> NICE TO SEE YOU.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

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SIMPLE BUT ICONIC DISHES OF
STAGGERING DELICIOUSNESS.

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THERE ARE CREAMY PASTA MADE WITH
MAINLY SHEEP CHEESE AND PEPPER.

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ADDED PORK, ITS LUXURIOUS COUSIN
WHICH IS ELEVATED WITH EGG YOLKS

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AND THIS ROMAN FAVORITE.
THEY’RE A BASE FOR A LOT OF

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DISHES IN ROME

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THANK YOU SO MUCH.

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>> VERY GOOD.
>> PASTA IS DELICIOUS.

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DELICIOUS.
THE SAUCE IS ACTUALLY QUITE

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LIGHT, WHICH IS NICE.
AND REALLY DELICATE.

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>> NO, NO.
I KEPT A PLACE IN MY STOMACH FOR

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THIS.
>> BECAUSE WE DIDN’T EAT THE ‐‐

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ACROSS THE CITY EVERY SINGLE DAY
ROMANS EAT PASTA THAT HAS

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ANCIENT BONDS TO THEIR
SURROUNDING COUNTRYSIDE.

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IT’S HARD TO IMAGINE BUT THIS
ICONIC FOOD WA

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>>> SITTING AT THE BIG, WARM
CARBOHYDRATE LOADED HEART OF

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ITALIAN CUISINE IS PASTA.
AND FITTINGLY FOR THE NATION’S

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CAPITAL ROME IS OBSESSED WITH
THIS STUFF.

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I’VE BEEN PROMISED THE BEST
CARBONARA IN THE CITY.

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AND I’VE BEEN TOLD TO COME TO
THE WORKING CLASS BACK STREETS

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AND ASK FOR THE DOM.
TELL ME WHAT YOU DO.

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>> FOR A TIME I MAKE A SHOW
WHERE I PLAY VINYL DISK BUT AT

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THE SAME TIME I COOK PASTA.
>> HE’S A CHEF, HISTORIAN AND

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DEEJAY WHO COOKS ITALIAN FOOD.
IT’S REALLY GREAT.

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DOM PASTA HAS PROMISED ME THE
GREATEST DISH I’VE EVER TASTED

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AND ON THE WAY HE TELLS ME WHY
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>> I REALIZE ITALIAN FOOD IS
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ITALIAN FOOD IS RETICENT OF THE
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PEOPLE THAT EAT WELL BECAUSE THE
WORKING CLASS PEOPLE CREATE THE

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ROOTS OF THE ITALIAN FOOD.
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TODAY WE MAY THINK AS A BOWL OF
PASTA AS THE ULTIMATE COMFORT

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FOOD BUT THERE’S A DISTINCTIVELY
UNCOMFORTABLE HISTORY OF

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ITALIANS FIGHTING OPPRESSION
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IN THE EARLY 1930s MUSSOLINI AND
HIS FASCISTS IMPOSED IMPORT BANS

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ON VARIOUS FOREIGN GOODS.
THIS LED TO FOOD SHORTAGES,

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MALNUTRITION AND A LACK OF
WHEAT, WHICH RAISED THE PROSPECT

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OF ITALIAN TABLES WITH NO PASTA.
IN TYPICAL STYLE RATHER THAN

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LIFTING THE IMPORT BANS
MUSSOLINI TRIED TO CONVINCE

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ITALIANS THAT EATING PASTA WOULD
MAKE THEM WEAK, LAZY AND EVEN

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SEXUALLY IMPOTENT AND THAT A
HIGH PROTEIN DIET WOULD MAKE

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THEM MORE PRODUCTIVE AND
WAR‐LIKE.

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THE CAMPAIGN WAS CLEARLY NOT A
SUCCESS.

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>> WHEN THE FASCISTS ARRIVED A
BIG PART WAS MUS LEANY BUT 30%,

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40% IS AGAINST MUSSOLINI.
>> IN FACT, PASTA ACTUALLY

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BECAME A POWERFUL SYMBOL OF THE
RESISTANCE AGAINST HIS FASCIST

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REGIME.
ARMED WITH THEIR GUNS AND SHEETS

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OF PASTA MANY OF THE PARTISANS
WHO STOOD UP TO MUSSOLINI LIVED

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IN THESE VERY STREETS.
>> AND THE GREAT AXIS RAIL YARDS

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FROM WHICH TROOPS AND SUPPLIES
ARE FORWARDED TO SOUTHERN

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ITALY ‐‐
>> DURING WORLD WAR II THIS AREA

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BORE THE BRUNT OF ALLIED
BOMBINGS THAT AIMED TO DISRUPT

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THE NEARBY RAIL HUB.
TRAGICALLY OVER 1,000 PEOPLE

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WERE KILLED.
THIS IS IN ESSENCE LIKE A

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MONUMENT.
>> YEAH.

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YOU CAN SEE THE EFFECTS OF THE
WAR.

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PEOPLE DEAD, THE FAMILY DEAD.
AND ALL THIS AREA IS BOMBED.

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>> THIS PARTICULAR SQUARE WAS
HOME TO A HUGELY POPULAR

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LOCAL ‐‐ BEFORE THE WAR.
THE OWNERS WIFE AND ALL BUT ONE

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OF THEIR CHILDREN DIED WHEN THE
BUILDING WAS HIT DURING THE

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BOMBING.
AFTER THE WAR THE LOCAL

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COMMUNITY RAISED FUNDS FOR THE
SURVIVING FATHER AND SON TO

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REOPEN THE RESTAURANT AGAIN.
THE BOYS STARTED WORK HERE AGED

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JUST 8.
AND AMAZINGLY HE’S STILL HERE

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TODAY.
>> IT’S THE STORY OF ROMAN FOOD.

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>> BEAUTIFUL.
ALDO NOW RUNS THE RESTAURANT

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ALONGSIDE HIS DAUGHTER ROSANNA.
PEOPLE COME ACROSS THE CITY AND

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APPARENTLY FURTHER TO ENJOY THE
COMFORT OF ALDO’S FAMILY FOOD.

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SO TELL ME ABOUT CARBONARA.
CARBONARA IS A ROMAN DISH, BUT

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WE DON’T KNOW WHEN IT WAS
INVENTED, RIGHT?

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ONE STORY I’D ALWAYS HEARD IS
THAT CARBONARA CAME ABOUT WHEN

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AMERICAN SOLDIERS IN ROME DURING
THE WAR STARTED MISSING THEIR

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BACON AND EGGS BACK HOME AND
WANTED THEM ADDED TO SPAGHETTI.

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ALDO, HOWEVER, HAS HIS OWN
THEORY

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>> IT SEEMS SOME THINGS ARE

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DESTINED TO REMAIN ROMAN MYTHS.
WHAT EVERYONE CAN AGREE ON IS

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THAT THE CARBONARA HERE IS
INCREDIBLE

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.
I KNOW, I KNOW.

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YOU HAVE BASICALLY FOUR
INGREDIENTS ‐‐ PASTA, EGGS,

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THE ‐‐ AND CHEESE.
THAT’S IT.

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BUT WHEN I TRY IT AT HOME IT’S
NEVER THIS GOOD.

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MY MOTHER DOES THAT, TOO.
WHEN I TASTE PASTA LIKE THIS I

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UNDERSTAND WHY IT REMAINS SO
IMPORTANT TO THE CITY.

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ROME MAY BE THE SEAT OF POWER
AND RELIGION BUT IT’S

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OVERWHELMINGLY A WORKING CLASS
TOWN.

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THIS IS SIMPLE FOOD THAT’S BEEN
ELEVATED OVER CENTURIES BY

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PEOPLE MAKING THE BEST OF WHAT
LITTLE THEY HAD AVAILABLE.

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THEY’RE RIGHTLY PROUD THAT THEIR
HUMBLE FOOD HAS COME TO DEFINE

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ITALY TO T

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>>> I’VE HEADED 5 MILES OUT OF
THE CITY CENTER USING THE NEWLY

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EXTENDED METRO LINE.
ROMANS HAD A REPUTATION FOR

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RESISTING CHANGE, AND THE
ARRIVAL OF THE SUBWAY IN 2014

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HAS SHAKEN UP OLD, POOR
NEIGHBORHOODS OF THE CITY.

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NOWHERE MORE SO THAN CENTO C
CELLE.

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GENTRIFICATION IS MOVING IN ON
THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND FOOD IS ON

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THE FRONT LINE.
>> GENTOCELLE IS A ROMAN NAME.

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IT’S 100 JAIL IN ENGLISH.
>> 100 JAILS?

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>> EXACTLY.
>> THERE MAY NEVER HAVE ACTUALLY

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BEEN 100 JAILS HERE, BUT WHAT
THIS AREA DOES HAVE IS THREE NEW

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SUBWAY STATIONS ALL IN CLOSE
PROXIMITY.

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>> THIS CHANGES THE GAME.
A LOT OF PEOPLE CAME HERE TO TRY

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TO INVEST A BIT.
>> IS THAT WHERE WE’RE GOING?

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LET’S GO IN AND SEE.
IT’S LONG HAD A ROUGH

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REPUTATION.
THAT’S CHANGING FAST, THOUGH.

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AND ONE PLACE SEEN BY SOME AS
GROUND ZERO FOR THE

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TRANSFORMATION OF THE
NEIGHBORHOOD IS A DELI.

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HE OPENED THIS PLACE WELL BEFORE
THE METRO ARRIVED.

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HE WANTED TO REHABILITATE THE
SURROUNDING LAZIO’S REGION

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REPUTATION FOR FOOD AND BRING
THE BEST OF THE COUNTRYSIDE BACK

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FOR HIS NEIGHBORS TO ENJOY AT
FAIR PRICES.

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CAN I TASTE SOME?
PEP RENO CHEESE IS MADE FROM

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SHEEPS MILK AND ROME IS FAMOUS
FOR IT.

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HISTORICALLY THEY WERE RAISED AS
AN ALTERNATIVE TO CROPS.

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HE SEARCHES FOR UNLIKELY PLACES
FOR CHEESE THAT ALSO HELPS HIS

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COMMUNITY.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

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OH, OKAY.
ONLY IN ITALY WOULD AN ANCIENT

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CHEESE RECIPE BE SAVED BY
PRISONERS.

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THAT’S DELICIOUS.
AS WELL AS SHEEPS MILK CHEESE,

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PORK FINDS ITS WAY INTO ALMOST
EVERY DISH I’VE HAD IN ROME.

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HISTORICALLY PIGS WERE RAISED
ALL AROUND THE CITY BECAUSE THEY

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NEED LESS SPACE THAN OTHER
ANIMALS.

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TO ME VINCHENZO IS DOING
SOMETHING AMAZING.

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OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS ANOTHER
50 TO 60 FOOD PLACES HAVE OPENED

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UP NEARBY.

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>> ROMANS ARE RENOWNED FOR THEIR
STURBEN RESISTANCE TO CHANGE.

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I GUESS IT’S WHAT’S KEPT THE
CITY STANDING FOR CENTURIES.

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BUT HE WANTS TO SHOW ME ANOTHER
AFF

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CAFE IN THE AREA, ONE OF MANY
THAT HAS OPENED IN RECENT YEARS.

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I WASN’T FULLY PREPARED FOR WHAT
WE FOUND.

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>> IT’S HARD TO IMAGINE BUT A
FEW MONTHS AGO THIS PLACE WAS A

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THRIVING CAFE AND BOOKSHOP
CALLED THE ELECTRIC SHEEP.

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ON THE NIGHT OF APRIL 25, 2019,
HER CAFE WAS FIRE BOMBED.

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SHE SET ABOUT REBUILDING HER
BUSINESS, BUT SHOCKINGLY THE

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NIGHT BEFORE SHE WAS DUE TO
REOPEN THE ATTACKERS STRUCK

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AGAIN.
THREE LOCAL BUSINESSES HAVE NOW

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BEEN ATTACKED LIKE THIS HERE
INCLUDING A PIZZA PLACE AND THIS

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JAZZ BAR.
THE POLICE STILL HAVEN’T FOUND

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WHO’S RESPONSIBLE.
BECAUSE SHE HOSTED COMMUNITY

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EVENTS AT THE CAFE INCLUDING
ANTI‐FASCIST TALKS SUSPICION HAS

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FALLEN ON THE FAR‐RIGHT.
BUT OTHERS HERE BLAME LOCAL

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CRIMINALS PROTECTING THEIR OLD
TURF OR EVEN ANTI‐GENTRIFICATION

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CAMPAIGNERS.
IS THIS HAPPENING IN OTHER PARTS

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OF ROME, TOO?
>> NO.

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>> WHEN CHANGE HAPPENS, ROMANS
RESIST.

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BUT WHOEVER DID THIS HAS MADE IT
DANGEROUS TO SELL FOOD.

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IT SEEMS BRUTAL TO ATTACK
RESTAURANTS AND

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>>> TUCKED IN A CURVE OF THE
RIVER TIBUR IS ‐‐ ONCE KNOWN AS

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THE BELLY OF ROME.
HOME TO THE OLD SLAUGHTERHOUSE

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THAT SUPPLIED 19th AND 20th
CENTURY ROMANS WITH MEAT.

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SO TELL ME ABOUT THIS PLACE.
>> THIS IS THE RETIRED

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SLAUGHTERHOUSE.
AND FOR ABOUT 100 YEARS UNTIL

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THE 1970s IT’S WHERE MOST LARGE
ROMAN ANIMALS WERE SLAUGHTERED

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BASICALLY FROM LAMBS ALL THE WAY
UP THROUGH STEER.

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>> THIS FOUR‐SQUARE MILE SITE
WILL BE REDEVELOPED INTO A

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CULTURAL AREA, BUT FOR NOW SIGNS
OF ITS FORMER LIFE ARE

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EVERYWHERE.
AND WHERE IS THE ‐‐ OH, YEAH,

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THE TRACKS FOR THE CARCASSES,
YEAH.

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KATEY IS A REKNOWN FOOD WRITER
WHO SWAPPED NEW JERSEY FOR ROME

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ALMOST 20 YEARS AGO.
>> SKINNING HAPPENED THERE.

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IT’S AN ORGANIZED PLACE WITH SO
MANY PAVILIONS COVERING A VAST

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AREA AND REALLY INFLUENCING THE
TYPES OF FOODS THAT WOULD BE

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EATEN JUST ACROSS THE STREET AT
THE LATE 19th AND EARLY 20th

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CENTURY.
>> IN BUTCHERY THE ANIMAL IS

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QUARTERED, AND THOSE CUTS WENT
STRAIGHT UP TO THE UPPER AND

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MIDDLE CLASS KITCHENS.
EVERYTHING LEFTOVER, THE BLOOD,

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BRAINS AND INTESTINES WAS CALLED
THE QUINTO QUARTO, THE FIFTH

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QUARTER.
AND THOSE WERE LEFT TO THE POOR.

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SOME WORKERS WERE EVEN PAID
INSTEAD OF MONEY, SO THEY HAD

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LITTLE CHOICE BUT TO MAKE THE
BEST OF IT.

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SANTO PALATO.
IF YOU KNOW HOW TO COOK AWFO YOU

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CAN TURN THE POOREST INTO THE
RICHERS OF DISHES.

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AND KATEY WANTS ME TO MEET A
YOUNG CHEF WITH A GROWING

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REPUTATION FOR DOING AMAZING
THINGS WITH INNARDS.

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>> SHE’S GOING TO MAKE A
FRITATTA FOR US, AND IT’S TOPPED

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WITH CHICKEN INNARDS.
>> SO EVERYTHING WE FOCUS ON

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HERE IN THE RESTAURANT IS AWFO.
ONE EGG PER PERSON, OKAY.

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THROUGHOUT IT DAY, HAVE IT FOR
BREAKFAST, LUNCH, DINNER?

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>> YEAH, I LIKE IT A SANDWICH.
>> THAT’S WHAT I USED TO TAKE

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WHEN I WAS A KID TO SCHOOL.
>> THE CHEF GAVE UP MEDICAL

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SCHOOL TO PURSUE HER DREAM OF
OPENING A RESTAURANT.

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>> THE STOMACH, THE HEART AND
THE LIVER.

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>> IN ROME YOU FIND RICOTTA AND
CHICKEN ORGANS SEPARATELY, BUT

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SHE’S COMBINED THEM.

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SMELL IT.
DON’T FORGET ABOUT THIS BREAD.

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>> WOW, YEAH.
NICE AND HOT, TOO.

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THAT’S GREAT.
>> THANK YOU.

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>> THAT IS GREAT.
>> THIS IS REALLY SPECIAL.

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AND I THINK IT’S A REALLY GOOD
DEMONSTRATION OF WHAT SARAH DOES

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REALLY WELL, WHICH IS TAKING
ROMAN CLASSIC FLAVORS AND

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COMBINING THEM IN A WAY THAT’S
NEW BUT NOT REVOLUTIONARY OR

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EXTRA CONTEMPORARY.
THEY JUST MAKE SENSE TODAY.

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>> WE TAKE A SEAT IN THE DINING
ROOM.

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WHAT’S THAT?
IS A REALLY UNUSUAL TEXTURE,

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TOO, ISN’T IT?
SO BREAK DOWN WHAT THE AWFO ARE

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HEART, LIVER, STOMACH, TONGUE,
BRAINS, SNOUT, INTESTINES.

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>> THE WHOLE HEAD REALLY IF YOU
THINK ABOUT IT.

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>> IF PASTA IS THE FIRST PILLAR
OF ROMAN FOOD THE ASTONISHING

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USE OF AWFO IS DEFINITELY THE
SECOND.

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SOMEHOW POOR ROMANS TURNED THESE
UNPROMISING CUTS INTO SHEER

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CULINARY POETRY.

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I LOVE OXTAIL.
>> I’M SO INTO IT.

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>> THAT’S REALLY GOOD.
>> AND THIS IS DEFINITELY A MORE

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CARNIVOROUS CITY THAN A FISH
CITY.

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EVEN THOUGH WE’RE 15 MILES FROM
THE SEA, THAT WAS REALLY, REALLY

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FAR IN PRE‐1970 STANDARDS BEFORE
ICE AND REFRIGERATION.

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>> YEAH.
>> SO THIS IS THAT HONEYCOMB

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TRIBE WITH ALL THOSE BEAUTIFUL
POCKETS, LOTS OF NICE STOMACH

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GEOMETRY GOING ON.
>> I’VE NEVER HEARD IT DESCRIBED

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AS STOMACH JEGEOMETRY.
THAT IS REALLY GOOD.

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>> IT’S BOILED MULTIPLE TIMES
AND CLEANED MANY TIMES WITH

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TOMATO AND MINT.
GO TO ANOTHER PLACE WHERE IT’S

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INCLUDED AND IT’S PREPARED
DIFFERENTLY.

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>> STEWED STOMACH MAY NOT SOUND
APPEALING, I KNOW, BUT BELIEVE

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ME THESE ARE REALLY TASTY
FLAVORS.

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THE ROMAN POOR DIDN’T HAVE MUCH
TO WORK WITH, BUT AGAINST THE

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ODDS THEY WOUND UP MAKING SOME
OF THE VERY BEST FOOD IN THE

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CITY.
WHAT CAN I SAY?

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♪

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>>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

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WE’RE HERE IN ROME, AND IT’S THE
MOST WONDERFUL TIME OF THE YEAR.

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NO, IT’S NOT CHRISTMAS.
IT’S ARTICHOKE SEASON.

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RIGHT NOW MARKETS ACROSS THE
CITY ARE HUMMING WITH THE SOUND

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OF PEOPLE HACKING AWAY AT ROME’S
FAVORITE VEGETABLE.

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SO SHOW ME THE ARTICHOKES.
AS I’VE BEEN FINDING OUT WITH

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ROMAN FOOD YOU SOMETIMES HAVE TO
DIG A LITTLE TO GET TO THE GOOD

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STUFF.
SO THIS IS WHERE THE ‐‐

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ONCE TRIMMED THEY CAN BE DEEP
FRIED TO MAKE ONE OF MY ALL‐TIME

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FAVORITE ROMAN FOODS, JEWISH
FRIED ARTICHOKES.

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YOU KNOW, MY GRANDMOTHER AND MY
MOTHER WOULD MAKE THESE.

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ASK ANYONE HERE AND THEY’LL TELL
YOU THIS WEIRD LOOKING VEGETABLE

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IS A DEFINITIVE ROMAN FOOD.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.

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BUT WHAT I LOVE IS THAT UNDER
THOSE ROUGH OUTER LEAVES IT

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CONTAINS AN ENTIRE HISTORY, A
STORY OF HOW SOCIETY’S OUTCASTS

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CAN CHANGE THE HABITS OF AN
ENTIRE CITY.

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THESE PICTURESQUE RUINS ONCE
CONTAINED THE MISERY OF ROME’S

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JEWISH GHETTO.
FROM 1500s ONWARDS THE CITY’S

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ENTIRE JEWISH COMMUNITY WAS
LOCKED IN THIS WALLED AREA.

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ONLY ALLOWED TO LEAVE TO DO
MENIAL JOBS IN THE DAYTIME

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BEFORE BEING LOCKED IN AT NIGHT.

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SHE’S IN HER 80s AND HAS LIVED
HERE HER WHOLE LIFE.

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WHEN THE NAZIS SEIZED ROME IN
OCTOBER 1943, THE GHETTO WAS A

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SITTING TARGET.
AND ITS 1,204 RESIDENTS WERE

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SENT TO THE GAS CHAMBERS.
ITALIA WAS JUST A HANDFUL WHO

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ESCAPED WHEN HER GRANDFATHER HID
HER OUTSIDE THE CITY.

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FOR THE FEW WHO SURVIVED FOOD
BECAME A VITAL LINK BACK TO

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THEIR PAST.
THE JEWS OF ROME HAD LIVED IN

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POVERTY FOR CENTURIES AND WERE
FORCED TO RELY ON THE CHEAPEST

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OF INGREDIENTS

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.
>> USING TYPICAL ROMAN

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INVENTIVENESS THE JEWS
TRANSFORMED UNLOVED INGREDIENTS

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LIKE ANCHOVIES, EGGPLANTS AND
ARTICHOKES INTO DISHES THAT

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ENTIRE CITY WOULD EVENTUALLY
TAKE TO ITS HEART.

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ALONGSIDE PASTA AND OFFAL THE
INFLUENCE OF JEWISH COOKING IS

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THE THIRD PILLAR OF JEWISH
CUISINE TODAY.

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IN THIS KITCHEN ITALIA AND HER
TEAM RAISE THE HUMBLE ARTICHOKE

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INTO FOOD FOR THE AGES

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.
THAT WAS DONE YESTERDAY, COOKED

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IN THE OIL, AND REFRIGERATED.
ALL RIGHT, WE’RE SPREADING OUT

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THE LEAVES.
THEY’RE PRE‐COOKED.

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LOOK AT HOW BEAUTIFUL THAT IS.

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>> THAT’S THE BEST ONE I’VE HAD.
THAT IS DELICIOUS.

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IT’S SO ADDICTIVE.
IT’S LIKE EATING CANDY.

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00:36:25,557 --> 00:36:32,227
YOU JUST CAN’T STOP.
IT’S SO CRISPY.

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00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:49,948
>> PEOPLE LOVE IT, YEAH.
THIS DISH TELLS A STORY.

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IT HAS SURVIVED THE DARKEST OF
TIMES.

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AND LINKS US TO A PAST THAT WAS
ALMOST WIPED OUT.

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TO ME, IT’S A TYPE OF HISTORICAL
MONUMENT IN ITALIAN COOKING.

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NOW BELOVED BY

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>>> IT’S MY LAST NIGHT IN ROME.
DURING MY TIME HERE, I’VE

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LEARNED THAT ABOVE ALL ELSE,
FOOD IN ITALY IS ABOUT WHO YOU

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ARE AND WHERE YOU’RE FROM.
BUT WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE YOU IF

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YOU’RE AN OUTSIDER?
I’VE COME TO BISTRO 64, A

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00:37:34,592 --> 00:37:41,299
RESTAURANT THAT HAS WON A
MICHELIN STAR.

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THE CHEF IS AN OUT OF TOWNER,
BUT HE’S NOT FROM NAPLES OR

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MILAN.
HE’S FROM JAPAN.

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00:37:51,276 --> 00:37:52,177
STANLEY.
>> NICE TO MEET YOU.

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00:37:52,177 --> 00:37:58,547
>> NICE TO MEET YOU, TOO.
>> HE WAS LURED HERE 20 YEARS

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00:37:58,550 --> 00:38:09,090
AGO BY HIS OBSESSION WITH THE
FLAVORS OF ITALIAN CUISINE.

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00:38:16,434 --> 00:38:19,737
>> HIS FOOD HAS WON PRAISE FOR
ITS CREATIVITY.

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00:38:19,737 --> 00:38:25,337
BUT TONIGHT, HE’S MAKING THE
SIMPLEST ROMAN CLASSIC, ONE OF

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THE FAMOUS FOUR PASTAS.
LITERALLY, CHEESE AND PEPPER.

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00:38:32,951 --> 00:38:36,821
THERE ARE JUST THREE MAIN
INGREDIENTS, BUT IT TAKES GREAT

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00:38:36,821 --> 00:38:42,961
SKILL TO MAKE THIS ROMAN
FAVORITE PERFECT.

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00:38:53,204 --> 00:39:01,854
>> OF COURSE, ANOTHER ITALIAN
KITCHEN SECRET.

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>> COULD TAKE A WHILE.

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00:39:39,684 --> 00:39:44,822
>> I KNOW YOU MAY BE THINKING
THIS IS LUDICROUSLY SIMPLE FOOD.

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00:39:44,822 --> 00:39:46,457
BUT BELIEVE ME, IT’S
EXTRAORDINARY.

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AND DON’T JUST TAKE MY WORD FOR
IT.

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00:39:51,329 --> 00:39:52,096
WHERE IS KAREN?
KAREN?

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00:39:52,096 --> 00:39:56,526
COME HERE.
OKAY.

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00:39:56,534 --> 00:39:58,770
>> OKAY.
>> THIS IS KAREN, WHO WORKS WITH

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US.
ONE OF THE PRODUCERS.

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00:40:00,571 --> 00:40:03,071
SHE’S FROM ROME.
YOU TELL US WHAT YOU THINK.

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00:40:03,074 --> 00:40:06,244
>> OKAY.
>> GO AHEAD, NO PRESSURE, NO

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00:40:06,244 --> 00:40:09,247
PRESSURE.
HE’S NOT NERVOUS AT ALL.

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00:40:09,247 --> 00:40:18,417
HE DOESN’T CARE ABOUT OUR
OPINION.

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00:40:18,423 --> 00:40:21,592
>> IT’S DIVINE.
YES, IT’S SO GOOD.

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IT’S PERFECTLY CREAMY.
NOT TOO INTENSE, NOT OVERLOADED

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00:40:24,929 --> 00:40:28,599
WITH FLAVOR.
>> YEAH.

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00:40:28,599 --> 00:40:31,999
>> AND HE REALLY RESPECTS, YOU
KNOW, HOW IT WOULD BE COOKED IN

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A FAMILY.

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00:40:49,554 --> 00:40:53,824
>> THERE’S ALWAYS A SECRET.
>> THERE’S ALWAYS A SECRET, YES.

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00:40:53,825 --> 00:40:58,863
WHEN IT COMES TO FOOD, ROMAN
KNOW WHAT THEY LIKE, AND LIKE

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WHAT THEY KNOW.
BEYOND HIS MASTERFUL TAKE ON

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00:41:03,301 --> 00:41:10,308
CLASSICS, IT’S ALSO FULL OF
INCREDIBLE INNOVATIONS.

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00:41:10,308 --> 00:41:13,478
FROM SWEET BREADS TO PLUM
GELATO.

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00:41:13,478 --> 00:41:21,518
I WAS CURIOUS HOW THE CITY HAS
TAKEN TO HIS INNOVATIONS.

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>> THE DOWNSIDE OF ROME BEING SO
STEEPED IN HISTORY IS THAT

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SOMETIMES GREAT THINGS ARE RE
RESISTED BECAUSE THEY’RE NEW,

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AND NOT WHAT PEOPLE ARE USED TO.
MISSING FOOD THIS GOOD IS A REAL

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SHAME.
I’M SORRY.

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BUT HERE’S THE THING.
THE ONE THING ROMANS CAN’T

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RESIST IS A GOOD MEAL.
AND I’M HOPEFUL THAT SOON HIS