1 00:00:08,299 --> 00:00:10,844 [NEWSMAN 1] HealthSouth CEO Richard Scrushy was indicted on... 2 00:00:10,927 --> 00:00:14,014 [NEWSMAN 2] Scrushy built Birmingham-based HealthSouth into a Fortune 500... 3 00:00:14,097 --> 00:00:16,097 [NEWSWOMAN] Richard Scrushy was indicted on charges 4 00:00:16,141 --> 00:00:19,310 he orchestrated one of the biggest accounting frauds in US corporate history. 5 00:00:20,687 --> 00:00:22,188 [WATKINS] High-profile cases, 6 00:00:22,897 --> 00:00:24,024 there are two trials: 7 00:00:24,441 --> 00:00:26,651 Outside the courthouse and inside. 8 00:00:27,652 --> 00:00:30,905 Court of public opinion is very important. That's the first trial. 9 00:00:32,157 --> 00:00:35,535 People generally get their view of trials 10 00:00:35,618 --> 00:00:38,580 and... and law and all that stuff off TV. 11 00:00:38,663 --> 00:00:41,791 Lawyers in the Richard Scrushy case have a big job ahead of them 12 00:00:41,875 --> 00:00:44,210 even before they can present their cases. 13 00:00:44,294 --> 00:00:48,798 They need a barometer of how things are going in the courtroom. 14 00:00:48,882 --> 00:00:50,008 We had a good day yesterday. 15 00:00:50,091 --> 00:00:53,053 And, uh, I expect us to have a similar day today. 16 00:00:53,845 --> 00:00:55,764 And so, when they hear on the street... 17 00:00:55,847 --> 00:00:57,599 Today they had a good day. 18 00:00:57,682 --> 00:01:00,643 Then they get the sense that this is not gonna be the lynching 19 00:01:00,727 --> 00:01:02,020 that everybody thought it was. 20 00:01:02,103 --> 00:01:06,316 "Wait a minute. Maybe the guy actually has a defense." 21 00:01:06,399 --> 00:01:09,194 Wow, maybe he's gonna get off. 22 00:01:09,778 --> 00:01:11,529 "Maybe he deserves to get off." 23 00:01:14,616 --> 00:01:16,201 Inside the courtroom, 24 00:01:16,951 --> 00:01:20,747 decisions by jurors are based on the human connection. 25 00:01:21,748 --> 00:01:25,335 So during the trial, you make love to everybody. 26 00:01:26,252 --> 00:01:27,670 You get to know everybody. 27 00:01:28,546 --> 00:01:31,800 You want to know how their children are. "What was your son's name again?" 28 00:01:31,883 --> 00:01:32,884 [LAUGHTER] 29 00:01:32,967 --> 00:01:35,303 Because if the building likes you, 30 00:01:35,386 --> 00:01:37,055 everybody feeds off of that. 31 00:01:37,138 --> 00:01:38,890 Everybody in the building likes these guys. 32 00:01:38,973 --> 00:01:40,809 They must be the good guys, right? 33 00:01:42,477 --> 00:01:44,145 I'm not saying the trial's a theater, 34 00:01:44,229 --> 00:01:48,274 but once you know what you're working with and what's not an issue anymore, 35 00:01:48,358 --> 00:01:51,736 the rest of it is just all-out offense. 36 00:01:55,698 --> 00:01:57,617 [TENSE MUSIC PLAYS] 37 00:01:57,700 --> 00:01:59,786 [TYPEWRITER CLACKING] 38 00:01:59,869 --> 00:02:00,954 [TYPEWRITER BELL DINGS] 39 00:02:02,831 --> 00:02:04,040 [DISTORTED SOUNDS] 40 00:02:53,506 --> 00:02:55,592 [FARRELL] Birmingham was the past. 41 00:02:56,467 --> 00:03:00,096 It was the center in terms of civil rights in Alabama 42 00:03:00,180 --> 00:03:01,973 back in the 1960s. 43 00:03:03,141 --> 00:03:05,226 There was not much modern industry. 44 00:03:05,310 --> 00:03:08,271 Whatever old-line industries were there had gone. 45 00:03:09,272 --> 00:03:11,900 And it was pretty clear that better days were behind 46 00:03:11,983 --> 00:03:13,610 until HealthSouth came along. 47 00:03:13,693 --> 00:03:14,736 We're on our way. 48 00:03:16,738 --> 00:03:19,657 [MAN] As the fastest-growing health care company in the world, 49 00:03:19,741 --> 00:03:21,621 with the commitment of health care professionals 50 00:03:21,659 --> 00:03:23,870 that share our chairman's vision, 51 00:03:23,953 --> 00:03:28,791 the momentum of the past decade is taking us right into the 21st century. 52 00:03:29,334 --> 00:03:31,794 [FARRELL] You have a company that suddenly is at the forefront 53 00:03:31,878 --> 00:03:33,796 of a medical health care revolution, 54 00:03:34,380 --> 00:03:37,091 and you've got the chief executive, Richard Scrushy, 55 00:03:37,175 --> 00:03:39,719 who became the evangelist for the company. 56 00:03:40,303 --> 00:03:41,763 He was the center of it. 57 00:03:41,846 --> 00:03:44,098 He was the charismatic leader. 58 00:03:44,182 --> 00:03:46,517 There was absolutely no one like him. 59 00:03:46,601 --> 00:03:48,436 - Richard Scrushy. - Richard Scrushy. 60 00:03:48,519 --> 00:03:51,081 - [NEWSMAN 1] Financial wonder boy... - [BROKAW] Richard Scrushy... 61 00:03:51,105 --> 00:03:54,317 [NEWSMAN 2] ...CEO of HealthSouth, a Fortune 500 health care company. 62 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,040 [NEWSMAN 3] Starting with nothing and building a health care empire 63 00:03:57,070 --> 00:03:59,113 spread around all 50 states. 64 00:03:59,197 --> 00:04:02,617 It's a great day for Birmingham, a great day for this metropolitan area. 65 00:04:02,700 --> 00:04:04,744 [SMITH] Richard was a motivator. 66 00:04:04,827 --> 00:04:06,537 He could take a room full of people, 67 00:04:06,621 --> 00:04:09,123 turn on the charm and the charisma, 68 00:04:09,207 --> 00:04:10,541 and by the end of the meeting, 69 00:04:10,625 --> 00:04:12,945 you're ready to knock the doors down and conquer the world. 70 00:04:13,002 --> 00:04:16,631 This company is the best health care company in the world. 71 00:04:16,714 --> 00:04:18,424 [CHEERING] 72 00:04:18,508 --> 00:04:21,469 He really was a visionary in the health care field. 73 00:04:21,886 --> 00:04:24,264 We grew so fast and were so successful. 74 00:04:24,722 --> 00:04:27,725 We were a hundred million dollar company in five years. 75 00:04:27,809 --> 00:04:30,645 [ANNOUNCER] Ladies and gentlemen, Richard Scrushy. 76 00:04:30,728 --> 00:04:34,107 [FARRELL] The bigger HealthSouth became, the bigger Richard became. 77 00:04:34,774 --> 00:04:39,404 Richard Scrushy very much wanted to be someone like Steve Jobs, 78 00:04:39,487 --> 00:04:42,282 where he would be the center of attention, he would be the front man. 79 00:04:42,365 --> 00:04:45,994 Now, not all businessmen stay in their three-piece suits after work. 80 00:04:46,077 --> 00:04:50,790 In fact, this particular businessman turns into a rock star. 81 00:04:51,332 --> 00:04:53,793 [WHITMIRE] When I say he wanted to be a rock star CEO, 82 00:04:53,876 --> 00:04:56,129 he actually wanted to be a rock star. 83 00:04:56,796 --> 00:04:58,965 He wanted to do something next level. 84 00:04:59,048 --> 00:05:02,010 Who will survive in this fierce health care landscape? 85 00:05:02,093 --> 00:05:05,054 That is for each of us to decide. 86 00:05:07,390 --> 00:05:10,560 [FARRELL] Certainly by the 1990s, Richard was very well paid. 87 00:05:10,643 --> 00:05:13,730 He's a very prominent, successful citizen in Birmingham, 88 00:05:13,813 --> 00:05:16,399 and he gives money to all sorts of great causes. 89 00:05:16,482 --> 00:05:18,401 I have a check that was... 90 00:05:18,484 --> 00:05:20,320 I'm presenting to you 100,000 dollars, 91 00:05:20,403 --> 00:05:22,403 which is the first check we're gonna present today. 92 00:05:22,447 --> 00:05:23,823 [APPLAUSE] 93 00:05:23,906 --> 00:05:26,951 He was certainly a "local boy makes good" story. 94 00:05:27,035 --> 00:05:29,138 [WALLACE] You can drive on the Richard Scrushy Parkway 95 00:05:29,162 --> 00:05:30,496 to the Richard Scrushy Campus. 96 00:05:30,580 --> 00:05:32,060 There's the Richard Scrushy Building, 97 00:05:32,123 --> 00:05:33,750 the Richard Scrushy Library, 98 00:05:33,833 --> 00:05:35,752 the Richard Scrushy ball field. 99 00:05:35,835 --> 00:05:37,962 [NEWSWOMAN] Scrushy captured the American dream 100 00:05:38,046 --> 00:05:39,589 and is helping others do the same. 101 00:05:39,672 --> 00:05:42,425 [ALL] Thank you, HealthSouth! 102 00:05:48,514 --> 00:05:49,514 [MAN] Good morning. 103 00:05:50,308 --> 00:05:53,019 Earlier this morning in Birmingham, Alabama, 104 00:05:53,102 --> 00:05:56,397 an indictment was unsealed charging Richard Scrushy, 105 00:05:56,481 --> 00:05:59,776 the former CEO of HealthSouth Corporation, 106 00:05:59,859 --> 00:06:03,780 with fraud, money laundering, and other offenses, 107 00:06:03,863 --> 00:06:07,909 based on his participation in a multi-billion dollar scheme 108 00:06:07,992 --> 00:06:11,662 that defrauded members of the public who invested in HealthSouth. 109 00:06:12,205 --> 00:06:14,665 [NEWSMAN] Federal prosecutors today accused Richard Scrushy 110 00:06:14,749 --> 00:06:18,669 of personally directing one of the largest financial scams in corporate history. 111 00:06:18,753 --> 00:06:23,716 Another flamboyant CEO accused of multiple federal fraud charges, 112 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:25,885 including overstating his company's earnings 113 00:06:25,968 --> 00:06:27,678 by billions of dollars. 114 00:06:27,762 --> 00:06:29,055 [MARTIN] This was major. 115 00:06:29,138 --> 00:06:30,765 One of the largest financial frauds 116 00:06:30,848 --> 00:06:33,935 in the history of the Department of Justice. 117 00:06:34,018 --> 00:06:36,854 [NEWSMAN 1] With that money, investigators say, he bought four houses, 118 00:06:36,938 --> 00:06:38,606 one visited today by the FBI, 119 00:06:38,689 --> 00:06:40,483 and spent millions on himself. 120 00:06:40,566 --> 00:06:43,194 Racing and leisure boats, 121 00:06:43,277 --> 00:06:48,533 fine art by Picasso, Renoir, and Miró. 122 00:06:49,033 --> 00:06:51,035 [NEWSMAN 2] And now Scrushy could lose it all. 123 00:06:51,119 --> 00:06:55,373 All told, Scrushy could be looking at 650 years in prison. 124 00:06:55,790 --> 00:06:58,459 [NEWSMAN 3] Federal prosecutors had major help building this case 125 00:06:58,543 --> 00:07:01,045 from former top officers of HealthSouth. 126 00:07:01,129 --> 00:07:04,132 [NEWSMAN 4] Five former chief financial officers at HealthSouth 127 00:07:04,215 --> 00:07:08,052 already have pleaded guilty and will testify against Scrushy. 128 00:07:08,678 --> 00:07:12,056 I was confident that Richard Scrushy knew about the fraud. 129 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,934 It was a classic case of greediness. 130 00:07:15,017 --> 00:07:18,312 Richard Scrushy was a poster boy for "it's not enough." 131 00:07:26,028 --> 00:07:28,739 [WALLACE] There used to be a Richard Scrushy statue, 132 00:07:28,823 --> 00:07:31,617 but after someone spray-painted the word "thief" on it 133 00:07:31,701 --> 00:07:34,120 and a radio DJ urged people to pull it down 134 00:07:34,203 --> 00:07:36,372 like Saddam's statue in Baghdad, 135 00:07:36,456 --> 00:07:37,832 workers removed it. 136 00:07:38,374 --> 00:07:40,084 There was a lot of schadenfreude 137 00:07:40,168 --> 00:07:43,087 and a lot of anger in Birmingham 138 00:07:43,629 --> 00:07:46,632 when the fraud became public at HealthSouth. 139 00:07:46,716 --> 00:07:48,301 I moved from Atlanta to here 140 00:07:48,384 --> 00:07:50,344 to take a wonderful job with a wonderful company, 141 00:07:50,428 --> 00:07:51,971 and Richard Scrushy screwed it up. 142 00:07:52,054 --> 00:07:53,055 It makes me angry. 143 00:07:53,139 --> 00:07:55,099 I think that he should've upheld higher standards. 144 00:07:55,141 --> 00:07:57,518 He's guilty to everybody in this town. 145 00:07:57,977 --> 00:08:00,539 [WHITMIRE] We had national attention. We had lots of local outlets 146 00:08:00,563 --> 00:08:01,814 that were focusing on it. 147 00:08:02,231 --> 00:08:06,986 It was every bit as big a story as Enron was. 148 00:08:07,820 --> 00:08:10,239 I started writing a column called Scrushy Watch, 149 00:08:10,323 --> 00:08:12,033 which was just sort of this, 150 00:08:12,116 --> 00:08:15,745 you know, a little bit gossipy, a lot of voice to it. 151 00:08:16,204 --> 00:08:18,122 We made it very much about Scrushy. 152 00:08:18,831 --> 00:08:21,501 All of this conspicuous wealth that he had. 153 00:08:21,584 --> 00:08:24,170 People like watching the mighty fall. 154 00:08:24,754 --> 00:08:26,964 [NEWSMAN] A lifestyle fueled by greed. 155 00:08:27,048 --> 00:08:29,509 [NEWSWOMAN 1] Homes, boats, jewels. 156 00:08:29,592 --> 00:08:30,593 [MAN] He was new money 157 00:08:30,676 --> 00:08:33,930 in a way that would make Donald Trump look like a pauper. 158 00:08:34,013 --> 00:08:38,267 [NEWSWOMAN 2] Ten boats, including the 92-foot luxury yacht Chez Soirée. 159 00:08:38,351 --> 00:08:42,188 Over 30 cars, including two Rolls Royces and two Hummers. 160 00:08:42,271 --> 00:08:47,276 Here in Birmingham, Alabama, where the median family income is $48,000, 161 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:51,864 Richard Scrushy's outsized wealth put him on a pedestal. 162 00:08:51,948 --> 00:08:55,201 I wonder if they'll let him, uh, move his car collection down to prison. 163 00:09:14,637 --> 00:09:17,181 [SCRUSHY] When I look at the entrepreneur and the visionary, 164 00:09:17,473 --> 00:09:20,351 that's somebody who can see opportunity. 165 00:09:22,186 --> 00:09:24,021 You've got to have the right vision. 166 00:09:24,105 --> 00:09:25,982 You've got to have the fire in your belly. 167 00:09:26,065 --> 00:09:28,859 You cannot be afraid of the risk. 168 00:09:30,528 --> 00:09:32,947 HealthSouth was very, very important to me, 169 00:09:33,030 --> 00:09:35,199 and I did live and breathe it every day. 170 00:09:36,701 --> 00:09:38,119 Once I was indicted, 171 00:09:38,202 --> 00:09:41,289 I was accused of things that I would never do. 172 00:09:42,790 --> 00:09:45,418 The media took everything that I ever bought in my life 173 00:09:45,501 --> 00:09:46,581 and put it in the newspaper 174 00:09:46,627 --> 00:09:48,671 to make me out like I'm some horrible criminal guy 175 00:09:48,754 --> 00:09:52,216 because I had a boat and a few nice cars and a couple of houses. 176 00:09:52,300 --> 00:09:53,634 I mean, come on. 177 00:09:53,718 --> 00:09:56,304 I'm innocent, right? Until proven guilty? 178 00:09:58,014 --> 00:10:02,643 I needed somebody now that believed in me. Somebody who would fight for me. 179 00:10:08,858 --> 00:10:12,820 The first group of attorneys I had said, "I don't want you talking to the press. 180 00:10:12,903 --> 00:10:14,572 I don't want you doing anything." 181 00:10:15,197 --> 00:10:16,466 That... That didn't sound right. 182 00:10:16,490 --> 00:10:18,951 I mean, I'm getting beat up every day in the press. 183 00:10:19,035 --> 00:10:21,263 Alice Martin's out there saying all these horrible things 184 00:10:21,287 --> 00:10:23,039 that are not true, and I can't say anything? 185 00:10:25,541 --> 00:10:27,627 Along came Donald Watkins who said, 186 00:10:27,710 --> 00:10:29,879 "Public opinion is as important as anything. 187 00:10:30,588 --> 00:10:33,633 And if you don't say anything, you're really gonna look bad." 188 00:10:35,134 --> 00:10:39,472 [WHITMIRE] Early on in this case, Richard Scrushy has a choice to make. 189 00:10:39,555 --> 00:10:41,015 "Do I go the conventional route?" 190 00:10:41,766 --> 00:10:45,853 Abbe Lowell, big shot, nationally prominent defense lawyer. 191 00:10:46,604 --> 00:10:49,982 "Or do I put my life in the hands of Donald Watkins?" 192 00:10:50,066 --> 00:10:52,943 One never loses sight of the struggle 193 00:10:53,027 --> 00:10:56,322 that black people have undertaken for decades in this city. 194 00:10:56,781 --> 00:10:59,992 He is a different type of lawyer. 195 00:11:01,452 --> 00:11:06,165 Someone who's not afraid to say whatever he feels needs to be said 196 00:11:06,248 --> 00:11:08,793 in the press, in the public, in courtrooms. 197 00:11:09,627 --> 00:11:11,921 Richard Scrushy chose Donald Watkins. 198 00:11:12,421 --> 00:11:15,508 And everything that happened after that 199 00:11:15,591 --> 00:11:17,385 happened because of that decision. 200 00:11:30,690 --> 00:11:32,358 [WATKINS] I knew 85 counts. 201 00:11:33,317 --> 00:11:34,985 Man, that's a tall order. 202 00:11:36,612 --> 00:11:40,366 I'd done criminal cases, maybe ten counts, 20 counts, 203 00:11:40,449 --> 00:11:43,160 nothing of the magnitude of 85. 204 00:11:43,244 --> 00:11:45,371 I saw it as a challenge. 205 00:11:47,164 --> 00:11:51,377 Richard Scrushy was the most hated man in Birmingham. 206 00:11:51,877 --> 00:11:52,962 He was the devil. 207 00:11:54,004 --> 00:11:56,924 Your jury pool is coming from regular folks out here 208 00:11:57,007 --> 00:11:59,844 who are exposed to all this mainstream media. 209 00:11:59,927 --> 00:12:03,889 So, we need to hit back in the same news cycle, 210 00:12:03,973 --> 00:12:06,183 put our story out there all of the time. 211 00:12:06,267 --> 00:12:08,644 That's when the mobilization began. 212 00:12:08,728 --> 00:12:10,062 [DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYS] 213 00:12:11,313 --> 00:12:14,483 Donald Watkins said, "You've got to go out and talk to these people." 214 00:12:14,567 --> 00:12:17,671 You've gotta tell the press the truth. You and your wife need to get out there." 215 00:12:17,695 --> 00:12:20,448 We were fully on top of the situation 216 00:12:20,531 --> 00:12:23,159 and... and reported everything we knew as soon as we knew it. 217 00:12:23,242 --> 00:12:26,120 And that's what the facts are, and anything else is just not true. 218 00:12:26,203 --> 00:12:27,963 "Wall Street Journal calls, you talk to them. 219 00:12:28,038 --> 00:12:30,458 Somebody calls you, they want an interview? You talk to them. 220 00:12:30,541 --> 00:12:32,877 You tell them you're innocent. Tell them you didn't do it. 221 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:34,521 "Let's get it out there. Let's work it." 222 00:12:34,545 --> 00:12:36,425 You say you didn't keep track of the accounting. 223 00:12:36,505 --> 00:12:39,383 - CEOs don't do that. CFOs do that. - [WALLACE] I know that. 224 00:12:39,467 --> 00:12:43,471 Chief Financial Officer means he is the chief financial officer. 225 00:12:43,554 --> 00:12:45,741 You've gotta understand the incentives that people have. 226 00:12:45,765 --> 00:12:48,309 Look, we're gonna give our side of the story. 227 00:12:48,392 --> 00:12:50,394 First of all, there's no evidence against me, 228 00:12:50,478 --> 00:12:53,939 and I believe that 12 reasonable people will rule in our favor. 229 00:12:54,023 --> 00:12:55,649 I just think he's an amazing man. 230 00:12:55,733 --> 00:12:58,611 I'm so thankful to be married to him. 231 00:12:59,153 --> 00:13:02,531 - You're not going to jail? - No... No, I'm not going to jail. 232 00:13:02,615 --> 00:13:05,326 I'm an innocent man. I'm not going to jail. 233 00:13:11,499 --> 00:13:13,334 [PEOPLE CHATTERING INDISTINCTLY] 234 00:13:22,426 --> 00:13:25,221 [WATKINS] This is not defending a lawsuit. 235 00:13:25,888 --> 00:13:27,973 This is a rescue mission. 236 00:13:29,517 --> 00:13:31,185 You cannot win any case 237 00:13:31,268 --> 00:13:34,271 if you don't understand the forces that you're fighting. 238 00:13:35,439 --> 00:13:39,068 The white community hated him for the most part. 239 00:13:39,860 --> 00:13:42,154 But the black community was neutral. 240 00:13:42,988 --> 00:13:45,491 And so, I told Richard, 241 00:13:45,950 --> 00:13:49,078 "That community may run to you when you're in trouble" 242 00:13:49,161 --> 00:13:50,663 and not run from you. 243 00:13:50,746 --> 00:13:55,584 "And it may make a difference in your life and the outcome of this circumstance." 244 00:13:56,293 --> 00:13:59,171 And he... he was quick to pick up on that lesson. 245 00:14:00,631 --> 00:14:03,592 You need to realize. I need to keep focusing on what God say. 246 00:14:03,676 --> 00:14:04,844 God's word will stand. 247 00:14:04,927 --> 00:14:06,762 If God's word says I'm healed, I keep saying, 248 00:14:06,846 --> 00:14:09,241 "I'm healed. I'm healed. I'm healed. I'm healed. I'm healed," 249 00:14:09,265 --> 00:14:10,599 until the manifestation comes. 250 00:14:10,683 --> 00:14:14,353 Because if I expect it, God will bring it as a manifestation. 251 00:14:14,436 --> 00:14:16,897 [LOWE] Richard Scrushy, he came to me and he said, 252 00:14:16,981 --> 00:14:18,732 "Bishop, I've been hurt." 253 00:14:18,816 --> 00:14:21,777 I've been hurt by what people said about me 254 00:14:21,861 --> 00:14:23,320 and about my family. 255 00:14:23,779 --> 00:14:26,282 I need a place where my family can worship. 256 00:14:26,866 --> 00:14:28,993 "I felt like this is where the Lord told me to come." 257 00:14:33,247 --> 00:14:35,367 [SCRUSHY] There were white churches I couldn't go into 258 00:14:35,416 --> 00:14:39,336 because the congregation was made up of many of the white haters. 259 00:14:39,420 --> 00:14:42,339 You know, they wanted to believe that I was the monster 260 00:14:42,423 --> 00:14:44,967 that the media was trying to make me out to be. 261 00:14:48,345 --> 00:14:50,222 The black community welcomed us, 262 00:14:50,306 --> 00:14:53,934 and maybe it's because of the persecution that they went through. 263 00:14:54,018 --> 00:14:56,103 For some reason, they understood persecution 264 00:14:56,186 --> 00:14:57,866 a lot better than a lot of white churches. 265 00:14:59,899 --> 00:15:00,983 During this period of time, 266 00:15:01,066 --> 00:15:04,528 Leslie and I got deep into studying scriptures 267 00:15:04,612 --> 00:15:06,238 and the Bible and theology. 268 00:15:07,197 --> 00:15:11,035 [LOWE] And Richard said, "Bishop, I got caught up in the business world." 269 00:15:11,702 --> 00:15:13,245 He said, "I've been hurt." 270 00:15:13,329 --> 00:15:15,080 I've cried many times, and... 271 00:15:15,581 --> 00:15:18,918 "and I believe that God had another purpose for my life." 272 00:15:19,001 --> 00:15:20,878 say God help me. 273 00:15:20,961 --> 00:15:23,005 [NEWSMAN] From the corner office to the pulpit. 274 00:15:23,088 --> 00:15:27,176 When he's not proclaiming his innocence after being charged with fraud, 275 00:15:27,259 --> 00:15:31,013 Richard Scrushy spends a lot of time praying and preaching. 276 00:15:31,096 --> 00:15:33,724 Sometimes we're not sure 277 00:15:33,807 --> 00:15:36,143 about what we're seeing and what we're hearing, 278 00:15:36,226 --> 00:15:38,395 and sometimes we miss things. 279 00:15:41,357 --> 00:15:43,901 [LOWE] After a period of time, the news media found out, 280 00:15:43,984 --> 00:15:45,361 and they showed up. 281 00:15:45,444 --> 00:15:48,781 They said Richard Scrushy joins an African-American church, 282 00:15:48,864 --> 00:15:53,160 and they said it was all manipulative to poison the jury pool. 283 00:15:53,243 --> 00:15:56,330 And they asked me how did I feel that he might have done that? 284 00:15:56,956 --> 00:15:59,583 And I said, "Hold on. You don't understand something." 285 00:15:59,959 --> 00:16:01,835 We're talking about the word of God here." 286 00:16:02,419 --> 00:16:04,880 I saw him speaking what was from his heart. 287 00:16:05,547 --> 00:16:07,383 [REFLECTIVE INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC PLAYS] 288 00:16:20,062 --> 00:16:23,649 [WATKINS] Scrushy had a foundation, a philanthropic foundation. 289 00:16:24,108 --> 00:16:26,986 You know, he used to give to stuff like the symphony and... 290 00:16:27,069 --> 00:16:27,945 and, you know, 291 00:16:28,028 --> 00:16:30,447 museum kind of stuff, you know. 292 00:16:31,407 --> 00:16:36,996 And he was persuaded that that is fine and that's deserving and all that stuff, 293 00:16:37,079 --> 00:16:41,792 but you might want to redirect some philanthropic money 294 00:16:41,875 --> 00:16:45,212 to communities that are not used to getting your kind of money 295 00:16:45,295 --> 00:16:46,547 in any significance. 296 00:16:48,007 --> 00:16:51,010 [WHITMIRE] So Richard Scrushy starts going around in Birmingham 297 00:16:51,093 --> 00:16:52,678 from church to church to church, 298 00:16:53,637 --> 00:16:56,223 speaking, talking about his story, 299 00:16:56,306 --> 00:16:58,767 talking about his... his faith, 300 00:16:58,851 --> 00:17:02,479 and, you know, leaving money behind when he leaves. 301 00:17:04,940 --> 00:17:07,109 [LOWE] Richard did a lot for a lot of churches. 302 00:17:07,693 --> 00:17:09,820 Provided roofs, carpets. 303 00:17:10,988 --> 00:17:12,197 He was very generous. 304 00:17:12,698 --> 00:17:15,367 He gave a lot to the African-American community. 305 00:17:18,662 --> 00:17:21,832 I told him, "These churches and these people" 306 00:17:21,915 --> 00:17:24,126 need to hear the word of God that you've got. 307 00:17:24,710 --> 00:17:27,504 Give to them the greatest thing that you have, 308 00:17:27,588 --> 00:17:30,424 "and that's your ability to minister God's word." 309 00:17:31,133 --> 00:17:32,342 [UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYS] 310 00:17:40,642 --> 00:17:42,728 [RANDALL] One day, I get a call from Richard. 311 00:17:42,811 --> 00:17:45,564 And he goes, uh, "I bought a TV show", 312 00:17:45,647 --> 00:17:47,900 and, um, I want you to run it." 313 00:17:48,525 --> 00:17:49,525 I went, 314 00:17:50,069 --> 00:17:50,903 "What?" 315 00:17:50,986 --> 00:17:53,530 Welcome to Viewpoint. I'm your host, Richard Scrushy, 316 00:17:53,614 --> 00:17:56,075 and with me today is my wife and cohost, Leslie. 317 00:17:56,158 --> 00:17:59,161 On Viewpoint, we allow our guests to present their views and opinion 318 00:17:59,244 --> 00:18:00,954 without negative media spin. 319 00:18:01,038 --> 00:18:05,084 We believe the truth and positive views will have a great impact on our community. 320 00:18:05,167 --> 00:18:07,461 We are honored to have Chief Justice Roy Moore 321 00:18:07,544 --> 00:18:08,544 in our studio today. 322 00:18:08,587 --> 00:18:10,839 We will speak with him about his past tribulations, 323 00:18:10,923 --> 00:18:12,841 present trials, and future victories. 324 00:18:13,550 --> 00:18:16,512 If you watched the local media, everything was bad. 325 00:18:16,595 --> 00:18:19,723 He said, "I've gotta do something to try to defend myself." 326 00:18:19,807 --> 00:18:21,934 No weapon forged against you will prevail, 327 00:18:22,017 --> 00:18:24,520 and you will refute every tongue that accuses you. 328 00:18:25,020 --> 00:18:28,565 This is my buddy that was getting, uh, you know, hammered. 329 00:18:28,649 --> 00:18:31,151 We had to create our own little Fox Network, 330 00:18:31,235 --> 00:18:33,112 if you will, to do something. 331 00:18:33,195 --> 00:18:34,863 We told the people the truth. 332 00:18:34,947 --> 00:18:38,784 A central figure in one of this country's biggest corporate corruption scandals 333 00:18:38,867 --> 00:18:44,623 is dealing with his post-indictment, pretrial life in a most unusual way. 334 00:18:44,706 --> 00:18:47,126 [NEWSMAN] The alleged mastermind of one of the worst cases 335 00:18:47,209 --> 00:18:49,044 of corporate fraud in history 336 00:18:49,128 --> 00:18:52,840 has gone from CEO to religious talk show host, 337 00:18:52,923 --> 00:18:54,174 with his wife at his side. 338 00:18:54,258 --> 00:18:55,592 I'm working very hard to, 339 00:18:55,676 --> 00:18:57,511 and Leslie and I, to get closer... 340 00:18:58,137 --> 00:18:59,555 closer in our relationship to God. 341 00:19:00,097 --> 00:19:02,516 [WHITMIRE] Richard buys time on television 342 00:19:02,599 --> 00:19:06,145 so that he can put on a morning religious program, 343 00:19:06,228 --> 00:19:08,105 like a morning religious talk show. 344 00:19:08,188 --> 00:19:09,815 Be sure to choose God's path 345 00:19:09,898 --> 00:19:13,277 because the path you choose will determine where you spend eternity. 346 00:19:13,360 --> 00:19:16,613 Nobody had really seen this side of him before he got indicted. 347 00:19:16,697 --> 00:19:19,950 He reinvented himself as a sort of televangelist. 348 00:19:20,033 --> 00:19:22,762 - Ever seen anything like this before? - Never seen anything like this. 349 00:19:22,786 --> 00:19:24,872 [NEWSWOMAN] Some saw it as an attempt to influence. 350 00:19:24,955 --> 00:19:27,166 Birmingham's Bible Belt jury pool. 351 00:19:27,249 --> 00:19:31,962 A lot of people see this for what it is, basically a Richard Scrushy infomercial, 352 00:19:32,045 --> 00:19:33,297 uh, and they resent that. 353 00:19:33,380 --> 00:19:35,716 Is this an effort to soften the jury pool? 354 00:19:35,799 --> 00:19:38,468 If the jury pool's been tainted, it's been tainted the other way, 355 00:19:38,552 --> 00:19:41,013 and it's been tainted by those that have spread the lies, 356 00:19:41,096 --> 00:19:43,307 said the things about us that are just simply not true. 357 00:19:44,474 --> 00:19:46,977 [WATKINS] The South is a big religious deal. 358 00:19:47,644 --> 00:19:49,605 No matter what the jury composition, 359 00:19:49,688 --> 00:19:52,608 there are gonna be churchgoers and there are gonna be people of faith. 360 00:19:52,691 --> 00:19:53,691 [INAUDIBLE] 361 00:19:53,734 --> 00:19:57,446 [WATKINS] We knew he needed to be on TV, in his own words, he and Leslie. 362 00:19:58,405 --> 00:20:00,616 This is a different way of messaging. 363 00:20:01,325 --> 00:20:04,494 Twelve people gonna decide your fate. You never know. You never know. 364 00:20:04,578 --> 00:20:06,698 If you'd like to get the latest and most accurate news 365 00:20:06,747 --> 00:20:08,874 regarding my situation, please visit my website, 366 00:20:08,957 --> 00:20:11,752 www.RichardMScrushy.com. 367 00:20:23,805 --> 00:20:27,434 [WHITMIRE] When Donald Watkins was building the defense team, 368 00:20:27,517 --> 00:20:29,186 everyone expected 369 00:20:29,269 --> 00:20:32,814 400-dollar-an-hour defense lawyers 370 00:20:32,898 --> 00:20:35,525 from New York or DC. 371 00:20:36,652 --> 00:20:41,240 But Donald knew the value of a home-field advantage. 372 00:20:42,366 --> 00:20:45,535 They needed somebody who could talk to an Alabama jury. 373 00:20:46,954 --> 00:20:49,456 [WATKINS] You know, we tried the out-of-state lawyers, 374 00:20:49,539 --> 00:20:50,791 Washington and New York guys. 375 00:20:50,874 --> 00:20:53,460 We brought 'em down, and it wasn't working out. 376 00:20:54,795 --> 00:20:58,465 Alabama requires a down home talent level. 377 00:20:58,548 --> 00:21:02,427 You just need to be baptized in the Alabama experience. 378 00:21:03,387 --> 00:21:05,264 You gotta have a Southern drawl. 379 00:21:05,931 --> 00:21:07,099 You gotta go to church. 380 00:21:07,891 --> 00:21:11,478 You have to know about the Crimson Tide, the Auburn Tigers. 381 00:21:12,980 --> 00:21:14,773 It's hard to come in from outside the state 382 00:21:14,856 --> 00:21:16,400 and... and have that. 383 00:21:16,483 --> 00:21:18,694 And if you don't have that, you don't have a connection 384 00:21:18,777 --> 00:21:20,529 with the people sitting on the jury. 385 00:21:23,156 --> 00:21:24,783 Scrushy had a guy, 386 00:21:24,866 --> 00:21:26,118 I didn't know who he was. 387 00:21:26,201 --> 00:21:28,161 His name was Jim Parkman. 388 00:21:28,245 --> 00:21:29,871 The guy was in DUI court, 389 00:21:29,955 --> 00:21:32,916 like, maybe two weeks before he came up to see us. 390 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,126 He was a good ol' boy. 391 00:21:34,584 --> 00:21:35,584 A good ol' boy. 392 00:21:43,218 --> 00:21:45,470 [PARKMAN] Donald said that he had heard about me. 393 00:21:45,554 --> 00:21:49,266 And they felt like they needed a lot more personality 394 00:21:49,349 --> 00:21:51,226 than what the government generally brings. 395 00:21:51,310 --> 00:21:53,520 And I agreed with that. And we talked about that. 396 00:21:54,021 --> 00:21:56,398 At the end of it, he and Richard talked for a minute, 397 00:21:56,481 --> 00:21:58,734 and Donald came back in and said, "You're hired." 398 00:22:00,277 --> 00:22:02,070 [WATKINS] The guy didn't have a big profile. 399 00:22:02,154 --> 00:22:06,074 He hadn't had any landmark cases that went to the Supreme Court. 400 00:22:06,158 --> 00:22:08,869 But if he was capturing my attention 401 00:22:08,952 --> 00:22:10,746 and had me spellbound, 402 00:22:10,829 --> 00:22:13,457 I knew he could do that with a jury. 403 00:22:15,125 --> 00:22:17,165 [PARKMAN] I had a dream of doing a big case one day, 404 00:22:17,210 --> 00:22:18,879 from the day I was in law school. 405 00:22:19,713 --> 00:22:21,673 I knew. "This is it, Jim." 406 00:22:21,757 --> 00:22:25,177 Here's your pressure, buddy. Let's see if you can do it." 407 00:22:36,688 --> 00:22:38,857 [WATKINS] It seemed like this was the perfect case 408 00:22:38,940 --> 00:22:43,153 with all five CFOs confessing, pleading guilty, 409 00:22:43,236 --> 00:22:45,989 pointing the finger up at the guy at the top. 410 00:22:46,073 --> 00:22:51,244 I knew that it was a political event of presidential magnitude. 411 00:22:53,330 --> 00:22:54,581 Ninety days out now, 412 00:22:55,707 --> 00:23:00,504 the government dumped these six million, or maybe nine million pages of records, 413 00:23:00,587 --> 00:23:02,047 computer records, just... 414 00:23:02,130 --> 00:23:03,298 It was a data dump. 415 00:23:04,299 --> 00:23:07,094 Our team went through those documents three times, 416 00:23:07,177 --> 00:23:10,013 looking for anything to corroborate 417 00:23:10,097 --> 00:23:12,808 the testimony of any one of those five CFOs, 418 00:23:12,891 --> 00:23:14,851 and there was nothing there. 419 00:23:17,729 --> 00:23:21,108 [PARKMAN] The government's case is what we refer to in the law 420 00:23:21,191 --> 00:23:24,277 as a "Swiss cheese case." 421 00:23:24,361 --> 00:23:28,240 That means, "Boy, folks, there are a lot of holes in it." 422 00:23:29,658 --> 00:23:33,161 The government relied on the CFOs' testimony. 423 00:23:33,829 --> 00:23:36,748 And so, what we'll do is take them down 424 00:23:36,832 --> 00:23:39,418 and show another hole, and we'll show another hole, 425 00:23:39,835 --> 00:23:42,963 and at the same time, make it fun. 426 00:23:43,046 --> 00:23:45,132 Now that... that... that's the key to this. 427 00:23:45,215 --> 00:23:47,634 Jurors like good stuff. 428 00:23:48,051 --> 00:23:51,012 They don't want to hear all this stuff about a fraud. 429 00:23:51,096 --> 00:23:54,182 That would drive you up a wall had to listen to all that crap. 430 00:23:54,766 --> 00:23:58,311 We had to make it that when I stood up to do cross-examination, 431 00:23:58,395 --> 00:24:00,772 they leaned forward in the pew getting ready. You know, 432 00:24:00,856 --> 00:24:03,418 "What's he gonna do? What's he gonna say? How's he gonna do this?" 433 00:24:03,442 --> 00:24:04,484 That's what we wanted. 434 00:24:06,445 --> 00:24:08,947 [MARTIN] Our narrative was that Richard Scrushy 435 00:24:09,030 --> 00:24:11,408 has taken advantage of people 436 00:24:11,491 --> 00:24:14,536 that trusted the numbers that he put out 437 00:24:14,619 --> 00:24:16,204 when they were false, 438 00:24:16,288 --> 00:24:18,540 and they lost their life savings. 439 00:24:19,207 --> 00:24:21,418 And all because somebody was too greedy 440 00:24:21,501 --> 00:24:24,087 and wanted the company to grow too fast. 441 00:24:24,671 --> 00:24:27,090 He needed the stock to perform 442 00:24:27,174 --> 00:24:28,675 so he could make money. 443 00:24:30,135 --> 00:24:31,761 Richard Scrushy was a visionary. 444 00:24:31,845 --> 00:24:34,264 He had a great business idea. 445 00:24:34,723 --> 00:24:36,349 But he didn't want to fail. 446 00:24:36,433 --> 00:24:38,435 And he always told his officers, 447 00:24:38,518 --> 00:24:40,395 "I'm not gonna report 448 00:24:40,479 --> 00:24:43,356 that we have missed our projected earnings." 449 00:24:43,982 --> 00:24:47,027 You know, so, what are you gonna do? 450 00:24:48,904 --> 00:24:50,447 Commit fraud. [LAUGHS] 451 00:24:52,073 --> 00:24:55,577 [ANNOUNCER] This is ABC 33/40 News at 05:00. 452 00:24:55,994 --> 00:24:59,498 [NEWSWOMAN] Former HealthSouth CEO Richard Scrushy gets his day in court. 453 00:24:59,581 --> 00:25:02,751 After much anticipation, this trial is about to get underway. 454 00:25:02,834 --> 00:25:05,086 And the jury is ready to hear the testimony 455 00:25:05,170 --> 00:25:08,215 in the trial of former HealthSouth CEO Richard Scrushy. 456 00:25:15,639 --> 00:25:18,391 We've been waiting a long time for the trial to start, 457 00:25:18,475 --> 00:25:20,310 and we're ready to get the show on the road. 458 00:25:21,228 --> 00:25:24,481 [WATKINS] The government comes in with all these guys, big briefcases, 459 00:25:24,564 --> 00:25:27,859 and titles that I can't even remember, the titles are so long. 460 00:25:28,693 --> 00:25:33,281 Parkman comes in with the brown, beat-up, expandable folder, 461 00:25:33,365 --> 00:25:36,993 you know, with the yellow legal pad with sticky notes all over it. 462 00:25:38,036 --> 00:25:41,122 [PARKMAN] There were butterflies from the time I got up that morning. 463 00:25:41,206 --> 00:25:44,960 Richard had passed on the best of the best in Washington, 464 00:25:45,502 --> 00:25:47,712 the best of the best in New York City, 465 00:25:47,796 --> 00:25:49,839 and decided to run with me. 466 00:25:51,216 --> 00:25:53,176 This was a case of a century. 467 00:25:53,260 --> 00:25:55,387 And here I was, cast in the middle of it. 468 00:25:59,558 --> 00:26:01,278 [REPORTER] Are you confident going in today? 469 00:26:01,351 --> 00:26:03,520 - [MAN] Richard! - [APPLAUSE] 470 00:26:05,230 --> 00:26:07,375 - [SCRUSHY] Thank you so much. - [WOMAN] You're welcome. 471 00:26:07,399 --> 00:26:09,319 - We're praying for y'all. - [SCRUSHY] Thank you. 472 00:26:11,236 --> 00:26:14,614 [MARTIN] Our opening statement told, through the use of PowerPoint, 473 00:26:14,698 --> 00:26:16,324 of when the company was founded, 474 00:26:16,992 --> 00:26:18,660 the names of the founders, 475 00:26:18,952 --> 00:26:21,580 the business of HealthSouth, how it made money. 476 00:26:22,038 --> 00:26:24,749 These reports, these 10-Ks and 10-Qs 477 00:26:24,833 --> 00:26:27,794 that the Securities and Exchange Commission requires, 478 00:26:27,877 --> 00:26:31,006 those are statements that if you lie on them, 479 00:26:31,089 --> 00:26:34,926 that's a federal crime, essentially giving the jury a road map 480 00:26:35,010 --> 00:26:39,139 for what the testimony would be over the next couple of months. 481 00:26:39,889 --> 00:26:40,932 I'm sitting there, 482 00:26:41,016 --> 00:26:44,019 I'll be honest with you, making faces to the jury, like, 483 00:26:44,102 --> 00:26:45,562 "Oh, God," you know. 484 00:26:45,645 --> 00:26:47,480 "Let's get this thing. Come on." 485 00:26:47,939 --> 00:26:49,357 Now comes our point. 486 00:26:52,110 --> 00:26:53,110 [WATKINS] "Hi." 487 00:26:53,528 --> 00:26:54,696 I-I'm Jim. 488 00:26:55,614 --> 00:26:56,906 I don't have no title. 489 00:26:57,490 --> 00:26:58,575 I'm from Dothan. 490 00:26:59,117 --> 00:27:02,037 And for those you who don't know where Dothan is, 491 00:27:02,120 --> 00:27:04,789 when you're leaving Birmingham and going down to the beach, 492 00:27:04,873 --> 00:27:06,916 "that's where you stop to fill up with gas." 493 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,879 And then everybody breaks into laughter in the jury box. 494 00:27:10,962 --> 00:27:14,674 I could see the jury falling in love with him. 495 00:27:16,593 --> 00:27:18,803 And I said, "Wow, folks", 496 00:27:19,387 --> 00:27:23,099 do you hear all this stuff that this government said in this case? 497 00:27:23,183 --> 00:27:25,268 Good gracious alive. 498 00:27:25,352 --> 00:27:27,896 "It doesn't sound like we stand much of a chance." 499 00:27:27,979 --> 00:27:29,022 Stop right there. 500 00:27:29,564 --> 00:27:32,942 So now I'm playing to that role 501 00:27:33,026 --> 00:27:35,153 of "we're the underdog." 502 00:27:35,236 --> 00:27:37,572 And because everybody likes an underdog. 503 00:27:37,656 --> 00:27:39,616 Nobody likes the New England Patriots. 504 00:27:39,699 --> 00:27:41,159 So now I've given them that. 505 00:27:41,242 --> 00:27:43,036 "We don't have much of a chance," 506 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,497 except for something my grandmama used to tell me 507 00:27:45,580 --> 00:27:47,666 when I was growing up as a young boy. 508 00:27:47,749 --> 00:27:49,250 'Remember this, Grandson. 509 00:27:49,334 --> 00:27:51,378 No matter how thin they make a pancake, 510 00:27:51,461 --> 00:27:53,672 it still has two sides to it.' 511 00:27:53,755 --> 00:27:56,675 So what I'd like to do is you've just heard 512 00:27:56,758 --> 00:27:58,551 the side from the government. 513 00:27:59,135 --> 00:28:03,223 What I want you to do is let's flip that pancake over, okay? 514 00:28:03,306 --> 00:28:04,683 "And let's cook the other side." 515 00:28:04,766 --> 00:28:07,352 You would be surprised how many jurors you see nodding, 516 00:28:07,435 --> 00:28:10,522 going, "Yeah, yeah, yeah. I see that." 517 00:28:11,523 --> 00:28:14,109 So that started the pancake thing. 518 00:28:15,276 --> 00:28:18,279 Yes, what was that pancake spatula? 519 00:28:18,363 --> 00:28:20,115 The two sides... Oh, God. 520 00:28:20,699 --> 00:28:22,992 "My grandmother used to always say..." 521 00:28:23,076 --> 00:28:25,912 "It's like a pancake," he said. "There are two sides to every issue." 522 00:28:25,995 --> 00:28:29,916 "No matter how thin you pour a pancake, it always has two sides." 523 00:28:29,999 --> 00:28:34,045 He said, "Now we're gonna show you the other side of the pancake." 524 00:28:34,129 --> 00:28:36,798 He says, "No matter how thin a pancake is", 525 00:28:36,881 --> 00:28:38,133 it has two sides." 526 00:28:38,216 --> 00:28:41,177 I think someone gave him a spatula at one point. 527 00:28:41,261 --> 00:28:43,513 [STEWART] It reads, "No matter how thin you make it, 528 00:28:43,596 --> 00:28:45,276 there are always two sides to the pancake." 529 00:28:45,348 --> 00:28:47,892 Of course, we will stand by and continue to find out 530 00:28:47,976 --> 00:28:50,061 just what is on the other side of that pancake. 531 00:28:50,145 --> 00:28:53,857 Reporting live from downtown Birmingham, Kevyn Stewart, ABC 33/40. 532 00:28:55,358 --> 00:28:56,985 [BIRDS CHIRPING] 533 00:29:03,658 --> 00:29:06,202 [FARRELL] Richard's wealth, the flaunting of the wealth, 534 00:29:06,286 --> 00:29:10,498 the public displays of the wealth, became a bad fact during the trial. 535 00:29:11,916 --> 00:29:15,086 Details would be filed in court about his lifestyle, 536 00:29:15,170 --> 00:29:17,255 and that very much became the story. 537 00:29:17,338 --> 00:29:19,466 Instead of building HealthSouth, it was about, 538 00:29:19,549 --> 00:29:22,469 "Oh, my God. Look at all this wealth. What has he done with it?" 539 00:29:22,552 --> 00:29:23,636 The boats, 540 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:24,846 the paintings, 541 00:29:24,929 --> 00:29:27,640 his own personal fantasy of becoming a country music star. 542 00:29:27,724 --> 00:29:29,809 This is all funded by shareholder money. 543 00:29:29,893 --> 00:29:32,353 And, uh, these were some of the best facts the government had. 544 00:29:32,437 --> 00:29:34,147 It was just like, "Look at all this." 545 00:29:35,231 --> 00:29:37,984 [WATKINS] Look, the man's reputation has been trashed. 546 00:29:38,526 --> 00:29:40,862 You know, think what you may about him, 547 00:29:40,945 --> 00:29:43,156 but one thing people cannot take from him 548 00:29:43,239 --> 00:29:45,617 is that he led this company from nothing 549 00:29:45,700 --> 00:29:48,077 to a Fortune 500 global leader. 550 00:29:48,828 --> 00:29:50,371 It takes a little skill to do that. 551 00:29:50,455 --> 00:29:53,708 It just doesn't happen to you because God shines on you that day. 552 00:29:54,542 --> 00:29:57,086 [PARKMAN] The government was showing all these cars that he had 553 00:29:57,170 --> 00:29:59,923 and these houses and pictures and money and all this. 554 00:30:00,006 --> 00:30:01,216 But we wanted to show them 555 00:30:01,299 --> 00:30:04,594 that he started from the same roots they came from. 556 00:30:04,677 --> 00:30:06,805 Yes, he had these things, 557 00:30:06,888 --> 00:30:07,931 but he earned them. 558 00:30:13,394 --> 00:30:15,314 [SCRUSHY] I grew up in a very humble environment. 559 00:30:16,397 --> 00:30:17,816 Our house was small. 560 00:30:18,650 --> 00:30:21,194 The neighborhood was not the best neighborhood. 561 00:30:22,278 --> 00:30:23,780 My parents instilled in me 562 00:30:23,863 --> 00:30:26,241 that I could achieve any goal I wanted to achieve. 563 00:30:27,826 --> 00:30:30,328 I had my first job when I was ten, 11 years old. 564 00:30:30,411 --> 00:30:31,830 I was working in a hamburger joint. 565 00:30:32,247 --> 00:30:34,791 I always had money in my pocket 'cause I was willing to work. 566 00:30:36,876 --> 00:30:37,710 I remember the day 567 00:30:37,794 --> 00:30:40,713 that Martin Luther King marched over the Edmund Pettus Bridge. 568 00:30:41,756 --> 00:30:43,675 My father looked at that and said, 569 00:30:43,758 --> 00:30:46,386 "Come on. We're going down there. This is historic. 570 00:30:46,803 --> 00:30:48,888 I want you to be able to say you saw it." 571 00:30:50,265 --> 00:30:52,600 And I was just a young kid, 12 or 13 years old, 572 00:30:52,684 --> 00:30:54,769 and I watched the whole march. 573 00:31:01,192 --> 00:31:04,696 [WATKINS] Richard Scrushy did not come from the country club crowd 574 00:31:04,779 --> 00:31:05,822 in Selma, Alabama. 575 00:31:06,906 --> 00:31:08,950 This guy took the time to go to school. 576 00:31:09,701 --> 00:31:11,286 He was a respiratory therapist. 577 00:31:11,703 --> 00:31:13,705 Not a highfalutin job, right? 578 00:31:14,289 --> 00:31:15,289 Worked hard. 579 00:31:15,915 --> 00:31:17,333 Saved his money. 580 00:31:17,750 --> 00:31:20,295 Got with three or four of his buddies and said, 581 00:31:20,378 --> 00:31:23,131 "You know what? We oughta try to do a rehab business." 582 00:31:26,009 --> 00:31:28,761 [SCRUSHY] That company was very, very important to me. 583 00:31:28,845 --> 00:31:31,514 It came from 20 years of building, and working, 584 00:31:31,598 --> 00:31:34,309 and sweating blood, and traveling all over the world. 585 00:31:34,392 --> 00:31:35,810 Just... I mean, it's hard. 586 00:31:39,355 --> 00:31:42,525 If you make enough money, you can buy your own airplane, have your own boat. 587 00:31:42,609 --> 00:31:44,402 You can have exotic cars. 588 00:31:45,111 --> 00:31:47,363 Yeah, I mean, I did all those things. Everybody does. 589 00:31:48,865 --> 00:31:51,284 What makes people get up and go throw themselves 590 00:31:51,367 --> 00:31:53,244 after a vision like I did? 591 00:31:54,037 --> 00:31:56,039 To end up with nothing? 592 00:31:56,122 --> 00:31:57,206 No, I don't think so. 593 00:31:59,208 --> 00:32:02,503 Now, if you're envious because somebody worked their butts off, 594 00:32:03,254 --> 00:32:05,840 and took a chance on their own dreams, 595 00:32:05,924 --> 00:32:09,135 and realized to some degree their own dreams, 596 00:32:09,218 --> 00:32:12,430 and enjoyed the fruits of their labor, 597 00:32:12,931 --> 00:32:15,058 you're not mad at him. You're mad at yourself 598 00:32:15,141 --> 00:32:17,936 because you didn't take a chance on yourself. 599 00:32:24,359 --> 00:32:29,489 The defense story was that Richard's a victim too. 600 00:32:29,572 --> 00:32:32,283 And he's just a little ol' respiratory therapist 601 00:32:32,367 --> 00:32:33,743 who made it good on an idea, 602 00:32:33,826 --> 00:32:36,371 but he was depending on these sophisticated people, 603 00:32:36,454 --> 00:32:40,416 and they... and they, uh, led him down the wrong path, 604 00:32:40,500 --> 00:32:42,293 and so that became the narrative. 605 00:32:44,212 --> 00:32:46,005 I had no doubt in my mind 606 00:32:46,089 --> 00:32:49,217 that Richard Scrushy was guilty of the financial fraud 607 00:32:49,300 --> 00:32:50,635 occurring at HealthSouth. 608 00:32:51,511 --> 00:32:57,183 We had five CFOs that could tell you what Richard Scrushy had said to them. 609 00:32:57,892 --> 00:32:59,936 And they said, from the very beginning, 610 00:33:00,019 --> 00:33:01,437 when it was on the NASDAQ, 611 00:33:01,521 --> 00:33:04,399 that HealthSouth never reported true numbers. 612 00:33:07,193 --> 00:33:09,904 [BELL DINGING] 613 00:33:15,827 --> 00:33:18,204 [SMITH] The financial world back in the '80s and '90s 614 00:33:18,287 --> 00:33:19,567 is really a bit different today. 615 00:33:19,622 --> 00:33:21,457 It was a bit more of the Wild West back then. 616 00:33:21,541 --> 00:33:22,667 [EXCITED CHATTER] 617 00:33:22,750 --> 00:33:25,253 People were paid well, but at the same time, 618 00:33:25,336 --> 00:33:29,007 they knew their real pot of gold was in the stock options. 619 00:33:30,133 --> 00:33:34,804 That definitely tied into this need to meet the Wall Street expectations. 620 00:33:34,887 --> 00:33:37,306 [BELL DINGING] 621 00:33:38,725 --> 00:33:40,205 [BEAM] We started the company in '84, 622 00:33:40,268 --> 00:33:44,230 and by September of '86, we were a public company. 623 00:33:45,231 --> 00:33:47,567 We had an aggressive, aggressive plan. 624 00:33:48,526 --> 00:33:50,778 But in the summer of 1996, 625 00:33:50,862 --> 00:33:53,656 we had missed our second quarter pretty badly. 626 00:33:53,740 --> 00:33:54,574 [INDISTINCT] 627 00:33:54,657 --> 00:33:56,951 Bill Owens, my chief accountant, and I 628 00:33:57,035 --> 00:33:59,829 prepared ourselves to go into Richard's office 629 00:34:00,288 --> 00:34:02,623 and tell him that we had to report bad numbers. 630 00:34:03,249 --> 00:34:05,585 His face turned red, and he started trembling. 631 00:34:05,668 --> 00:34:07,045 [YELLS] "Get out of my office!" 632 00:34:07,712 --> 00:34:10,089 We're not going to report bad numbers. 633 00:34:10,715 --> 00:34:13,051 Have you guys lost your minds? 634 00:34:13,843 --> 00:34:15,178 Get back into your office 635 00:34:15,261 --> 00:34:17,764 "and get these numbers to where they need to be." 636 00:34:20,141 --> 00:34:23,394 I didn't have the courage to stand up to Richard and say no. 637 00:34:24,854 --> 00:34:28,149 That night, Bill Owens just bogeyed up numbers, 638 00:34:28,232 --> 00:34:29,400 cooked the books. 639 00:34:30,193 --> 00:34:31,861 And that's how the fraud started. 640 00:34:32,779 --> 00:34:34,405 Our year-end earnings per share 641 00:34:34,489 --> 00:34:37,575 exceeded the analysts' expectations on Wall Street, 642 00:34:37,658 --> 00:34:40,536 and we had increases in all business lines. 643 00:34:40,620 --> 00:34:42,330 So, net result, 644 00:34:42,413 --> 00:34:44,999 we had an incredible year, so give yourself a hand. 645 00:34:46,959 --> 00:34:51,714 Bill Owens moved up and opened the way for me to become CFO of the company. 646 00:34:53,382 --> 00:34:55,218 HealthSouth was growing, 647 00:34:55,301 --> 00:34:56,928 bonuses were starting to flow, 648 00:34:57,011 --> 00:34:59,305 and Richard bought his first yacht. 649 00:35:00,515 --> 00:35:02,183 Everything is looking good financially, 650 00:35:02,683 --> 00:35:03,684 at least on paper. 651 00:35:04,435 --> 00:35:05,645 But, at the same time, 652 00:35:05,728 --> 00:35:08,481 the fraud is growing out of control. 653 00:35:10,399 --> 00:35:14,278 It had gotten so large, they were paying more in taxes 654 00:35:14,362 --> 00:35:16,531 than they were actually making. 655 00:35:17,073 --> 00:35:18,866 It was that upside down. 656 00:35:18,950 --> 00:35:20,493 [INAUDIBLE] 657 00:35:20,576 --> 00:35:22,703 [SMITH] Richard was pushing people to their limits, 658 00:35:22,787 --> 00:35:25,581 pushing people to work as hard as they possibly could 659 00:35:25,665 --> 00:35:26,833 to make things happen. 660 00:35:27,375 --> 00:35:29,460 It wasn't a question of right or wrong. 661 00:35:29,544 --> 00:35:34,966 It was just this mindset of "we have to hit the numbers." 662 00:35:36,676 --> 00:35:39,095 His fortune and fame was tied to the options. 663 00:35:39,178 --> 00:35:41,806 It was tied to the price of the stock of the company. 664 00:35:42,473 --> 00:35:45,059 So as long as the company's being promoted, 665 00:35:45,143 --> 00:35:46,978 as long as it's "hitting its numbers," 666 00:35:47,562 --> 00:35:48,980 Richard is the king. 667 00:35:53,151 --> 00:35:55,319 Donald and I got a comment. Y'all want it? 668 00:35:55,403 --> 00:35:56,547 - [REPORTER] Yes, sir. - Okay. 669 00:35:56,571 --> 00:35:59,407 You're continuing to see the chapters unfold in this book, 670 00:35:59,490 --> 00:36:01,159 and there are a lot of chapters to come. 671 00:36:01,242 --> 00:36:04,829 We have a lot of our own witnesses, and plus, we intend to... 672 00:36:04,912 --> 00:36:07,790 to vigorously cross-examine each one of the government's witnesses, 673 00:36:07,874 --> 00:36:11,294 so just stay tuned and follow us through each chapter. 674 00:36:12,003 --> 00:36:14,839 Jurors, they don't have a long attention span 675 00:36:14,922 --> 00:36:18,050 for detail kind of stuff, you know, a lot of records and stuff, 676 00:36:18,134 --> 00:36:20,303 but what they do understand well 677 00:36:21,137 --> 00:36:23,973 is whether a person is truthful. 678 00:36:25,266 --> 00:36:28,644 And if the witness is not truthful and the testimony is disregarded, 679 00:36:28,728 --> 00:36:31,147 you have no case, government. You have no case. 680 00:36:33,191 --> 00:36:36,277 So, with those five CFOs, 681 00:36:36,944 --> 00:36:39,697 what we have to do is make each one of those people confess 682 00:36:39,780 --> 00:36:41,866 that they are basically liars. 683 00:36:43,201 --> 00:36:46,662 [POTEAU] Former HealthSouth founder, CFO Aaron Beam, 684 00:36:46,746 --> 00:36:48,164 picks up his testimony today. 685 00:36:48,247 --> 00:36:49,957 The co-founder of HealthSouth says 686 00:36:50,041 --> 00:36:53,628 Richard Scrushy knew every move that was made in his company, 687 00:36:53,711 --> 00:36:55,046 especially financially. 688 00:36:55,129 --> 00:36:57,131 Aaron Beam has told the court HealthSouth began 689 00:36:57,215 --> 00:36:59,008 "aggressive accounting techniques 690 00:36:59,091 --> 00:37:01,886 to meet Wall Street's financial expectations in the early '90s." 691 00:37:01,969 --> 00:37:04,972 He swore Scrushy told he and HealthSouth's Bill Owens, 692 00:37:05,056 --> 00:37:07,516 "It's not an option to miss the numbers. 693 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,185 You need to fix the numbers." 694 00:37:09,268 --> 00:37:11,729 Aaron Beam concerned me 695 00:37:11,812 --> 00:37:15,858 because he was, in actuality, a long-time friend of Richard Scrushy. 696 00:37:17,443 --> 00:37:20,321 And then we found out that during the time period 697 00:37:20,404 --> 00:37:22,281 that this fraud was being committed, 698 00:37:22,782 --> 00:37:24,242 Aaron had a girlfriend. 699 00:37:24,325 --> 00:37:26,535 He was spending a lot of time with her. 700 00:37:26,619 --> 00:37:28,955 In fact, it was so much time 701 00:37:29,038 --> 00:37:32,833 that he brought her into the corporation, gave her a desk, and hired her. 702 00:37:33,417 --> 00:37:35,544 Well, of course, Aaron was married. 703 00:37:36,045 --> 00:37:40,258 So, a lot of what started on cross-examination with Aaron 704 00:37:40,758 --> 00:37:44,887 was he's been lying to people all of his life. 705 00:37:47,682 --> 00:37:49,433 [BEAM] Day one, the government asked me, 706 00:37:49,517 --> 00:37:52,895 and I'm explaining to the jury how the fraud took place, 707 00:37:52,979 --> 00:37:56,232 and they're immediately falling asleep. 708 00:37:56,315 --> 00:37:57,984 They're bored out of their mind. 709 00:37:59,527 --> 00:38:02,530 The next day, the defense got me: Jim Parkman. 710 00:38:03,281 --> 00:38:04,824 He almost immediately says, 711 00:38:04,907 --> 00:38:08,911 "Mr. Beam, you've had an extramarital affair, haven't you?" 712 00:38:08,995 --> 00:38:11,789 And I looked over at the jurors, and their eyes were that big. 713 00:38:13,374 --> 00:38:17,378 Then he got in my face. He says, "Mr. Beam, when you went to New York City" 714 00:38:17,461 --> 00:38:20,923 and you presented numbers to the investors, you lied. 715 00:38:21,007 --> 00:38:23,759 When you presented the numbers to the accountants and auditors 716 00:38:23,843 --> 00:38:26,220 and the board of directors, you lied. 717 00:38:26,304 --> 00:38:27,722 You are a liar. 718 00:38:27,805 --> 00:38:29,223 You lie so much, 719 00:38:29,307 --> 00:38:31,392 "you don't know when you're telling the truth." 720 00:38:33,102 --> 00:38:35,354 It's true. I mean, I did have an affair. 721 00:38:37,315 --> 00:38:40,192 At the time, my daughter was a maitre d'. 722 00:38:41,110 --> 00:38:43,362 A lady came in one night and said, 723 00:38:43,446 --> 00:38:46,657 "Your father is going to prison, and I hope he rots there." 724 00:38:47,742 --> 00:38:49,243 [VOICE BREAKING] She broke down. 725 00:38:49,827 --> 00:38:50,661 [CRYING] 726 00:38:50,745 --> 00:38:51,745 I'm sorry. 727 00:38:56,834 --> 00:38:58,874 [PARKMAN] As soon as I said, "No further questions," 728 00:38:58,919 --> 00:39:02,757 the judge said, "You're through," he jumped up and ran out of the courtroom. 729 00:39:04,467 --> 00:39:07,762 Somebody said he went and called his wife and told her before... 730 00:39:07,845 --> 00:39:08,888 before the news broke. 731 00:39:10,097 --> 00:39:11,158 - [REPORTER] Jim? - Yes, sir. 732 00:39:11,182 --> 00:39:13,768 [REPORTER] Was it necessary to go so hard after his character 733 00:39:13,851 --> 00:39:16,562 in terms of his personal life? 734 00:39:17,396 --> 00:39:19,899 I-I don't see any other way that... that... that I... 735 00:39:19,982 --> 00:39:22,443 to do it but that way and be a gentleman about it, 736 00:39:22,526 --> 00:39:26,405 but yet get into evidence that I believe we needed for the case. 737 00:39:28,532 --> 00:39:30,201 [PARKMAN] I really liked Aaron Beam. 738 00:39:30,284 --> 00:39:32,912 Uh, and... and I tell you right now, I hated doing it, 739 00:39:33,371 --> 00:39:35,373 but the guy's up there. 740 00:39:35,456 --> 00:39:38,209 He's trying to... to kill your client. 741 00:39:38,292 --> 00:39:41,796 So I've got to try to kill him. So that's just the way it worked. 742 00:39:41,879 --> 00:39:43,422 Listen, thank y'all a lot. 743 00:39:43,506 --> 00:39:45,633 I'm going to get a drink. See y'all later. 744 00:39:45,716 --> 00:39:47,009 [LAUGHTER] 745 00:39:51,764 --> 00:39:53,307 [BIRDS CHIRPING] 746 00:39:53,766 --> 00:39:56,977 [CHURCH BELL RINGING] 747 00:40:03,567 --> 00:40:05,837 [SCRUSHY] You know, I just think God blesses us every day. 748 00:40:05,861 --> 00:40:07,113 I'm just glad to be alive, 749 00:40:07,196 --> 00:40:10,032 and, you know, just thank Him for everything we've got. 750 00:40:11,325 --> 00:40:12,660 [WATKINS] During the whole trial, 751 00:40:12,743 --> 00:40:16,080 Richard Scrushy was a community kind of guy. 752 00:40:16,163 --> 00:40:18,416 He was at all these churches. 753 00:40:18,499 --> 00:40:20,835 He was on... He had his TV program. 754 00:40:21,252 --> 00:40:25,464 Uh, his philanthropic stuff, redirected philanthropic giving. 755 00:40:25,923 --> 00:40:28,259 He had a good vibe throughout the whole trial. 756 00:40:28,342 --> 00:40:29,342 He had a good vibe. 757 00:40:29,385 --> 00:40:31,178 - He is God's son. - That's beautiful. 758 00:40:31,262 --> 00:40:32,847 - He can lay it down. - Beautiful. 759 00:40:32,930 --> 00:40:35,015 And he has the authority to pick it up again. 760 00:40:35,099 --> 00:40:37,017 - That's beautiful. - Mmm. Amen. 761 00:40:37,101 --> 00:40:39,645 [WATKINS] You know, you need prayer in whatever you're doing, 762 00:40:39,728 --> 00:40:42,273 especially when you're navigating difficult seas 763 00:40:42,356 --> 00:40:44,108 and if you're a person of faith. 764 00:40:44,608 --> 00:40:48,320 And to have prayer leaders with you is never a bad thing. 765 00:40:49,613 --> 00:40:52,825 [WHITMIRE] At one point during the trial, there's this small gaggle 766 00:40:52,908 --> 00:40:55,369 of black ministers who started showing up. 767 00:40:56,036 --> 00:40:58,456 Prayed with Scrushy during breaks. 768 00:40:58,539 --> 00:41:00,249 Prayed with the family before. 769 00:41:00,833 --> 00:41:03,627 We in the media sort of nicknamed them the Amen Corner. 770 00:41:04,170 --> 00:41:06,589 This man has done a lot of good in the community. 771 00:41:06,672 --> 00:41:07,923 He helped a lot of people. 772 00:41:08,007 --> 00:41:11,343 [WHITMIRE] Because Scrushy had put so much effort 773 00:41:11,427 --> 00:41:15,139 into trying to make inroads in the black churches, 774 00:41:15,639 --> 00:41:18,684 the focus immediately shifted to, 775 00:41:18,767 --> 00:41:20,686 "He's bought the African-American community." 776 00:41:21,103 --> 00:41:23,783 [REPORTER] A lot has been made out that Richard Scrushy, some think, 777 00:41:23,814 --> 00:41:26,859 was doing an underhanded appeal to the black community. 778 00:41:28,110 --> 00:41:30,154 [SCRUSHY] They tried to make out the fact 779 00:41:30,237 --> 00:41:33,199 that I had friends that were in the ministry, 780 00:41:33,282 --> 00:41:35,576 that there was something wrong with that. 781 00:41:35,659 --> 00:41:37,203 If I had been just with white people, 782 00:41:37,286 --> 00:41:40,326 they probably would've said I was racist because I didn't have black friends. 783 00:41:41,207 --> 00:41:44,793 [FARRELL] I had never, ever seen anything like this in any other trial. 784 00:41:45,169 --> 00:41:49,465 He had successfully transformed himself into a member of an oppressed community. 785 00:41:50,049 --> 00:41:52,593 [REPORTER] Speculation is Richard Scrushy joined your church 786 00:41:52,676 --> 00:41:53,844 just to influence jurors. 787 00:41:53,928 --> 00:41:56,931 What's the issue about a white man joining a black church? 788 00:41:57,014 --> 00:41:59,266 I got other white members of my congregation. 789 00:41:59,725 --> 00:42:03,145 That me and my people are dumb enough 790 00:42:03,229 --> 00:42:07,650 to be lied to in this manner and... and manipulated and controlled, 791 00:42:08,317 --> 00:42:09,610 what are you trying to say? 792 00:42:09,693 --> 00:42:12,821 It's offensive to me for you to even make that kind of statement. 793 00:42:13,948 --> 00:42:16,700 [SCRUSHY] They saw it as another avenue to attack me. 794 00:42:17,326 --> 00:42:18,494 "So he's a godly man now. 795 00:42:18,577 --> 00:42:22,081 He wasn't a godly man when he did all that horrible stuff, but he's a godly man now." 796 00:42:23,541 --> 00:42:24,833 It's not a pleasant thing 797 00:42:25,668 --> 00:42:27,419 to have people attack your faith. 798 00:42:39,181 --> 00:42:40,224 [BIRDS CHIRPING] 799 00:42:42,017 --> 00:42:45,813 [REPORTER] You guys are looking forward to getting more CFOs up on that stand? 800 00:42:45,896 --> 00:42:48,732 Can't get into that, but, uh, whenever they want to put 'em up there, 801 00:42:48,816 --> 00:42:50,317 I hope we'll be ready for 'em. 802 00:42:50,859 --> 00:42:54,697 The defense strategy was to take these five CFOs, 803 00:42:55,197 --> 00:42:57,199 sort of burnish their reputations, 804 00:42:57,658 --> 00:42:59,868 and then, in the minds of the jury, 805 00:42:59,952 --> 00:43:01,787 condense them down to one. 806 00:43:02,871 --> 00:43:04,373 And that was Bill Owens. 807 00:43:04,456 --> 00:43:07,459 He may be the prosecution's most important witness. 808 00:43:07,543 --> 00:43:11,964 Now, Bill Owens is one of five former HealthSouth CFOs under Scrushy 809 00:43:12,047 --> 00:43:13,047 who pleaded guilty. 810 00:43:13,090 --> 00:43:16,343 Saying his boss told him, "Fix the numbers," 811 00:43:16,427 --> 00:43:17,928 related to the company's earnings. 812 00:43:18,012 --> 00:43:19,930 He is described as the government's key witness 813 00:43:20,014 --> 00:43:22,558 because he is the one who wore the FBI wire, 814 00:43:22,641 --> 00:43:24,893 secretly recording Richard Scrushy. 815 00:43:24,977 --> 00:43:27,521 [NEWSWOMAN] Bill Owens described Scrushy as a master salesman 816 00:43:27,605 --> 00:43:30,774 who ruled HealthSouth with fear and enough intimidation 817 00:43:30,858 --> 00:43:32,735 to make others go along with the scam. 818 00:43:33,902 --> 00:43:37,865 [MARTIN] Bill Owens was an essential witness in this case. 819 00:43:37,948 --> 00:43:41,201 He was the only CFO 820 00:43:41,285 --> 00:43:46,206 that was privy to the entire scheme from day one. 821 00:43:46,624 --> 00:43:47,875 Bill is the person 822 00:43:47,958 --> 00:43:52,463 who physically made the first several million dollars in entries. 823 00:43:52,546 --> 00:43:55,591 So I do believe that Bill Owens was the orchestrator, 824 00:43:55,674 --> 00:43:59,637 if you talk about who was pulling all the strings and making it work, 825 00:43:59,720 --> 00:44:02,431 but who directed him to play that part, 826 00:44:02,514 --> 00:44:04,850 uh, in our opinion, was Richard Scrushy. 827 00:44:04,933 --> 00:44:07,978 Uh, as Richard said when he read the press release, 828 00:44:08,062 --> 00:44:09,813 you see our revenue went up two percent, 829 00:44:09,897 --> 00:44:12,107 uh, over the prior year in the same quarter. 830 00:44:12,900 --> 00:44:15,361 [PARKMAN] Now, I knew a lot about Bill Owens 831 00:44:15,444 --> 00:44:17,363 because I had an inside source, 832 00:44:17,863 --> 00:44:20,699 Richard Scrushy, that knew a lot about Bill Owens. 833 00:44:22,159 --> 00:44:23,702 Bill wanted Richard's job. 834 00:44:24,203 --> 00:44:25,871 He wanted it big-time. 835 00:44:26,455 --> 00:44:31,877 And he believed in his mind he was so smart that he could pull it off. 836 00:44:32,711 --> 00:44:35,255 Richard assured me that he wasn't gonna change, 837 00:44:35,798 --> 00:44:38,926 that what is a scorpion is gonna be a scorpion. 838 00:44:41,470 --> 00:44:44,098 When he was on the stand, I asked him, 839 00:44:44,181 --> 00:44:48,602 "Bill, in the past, you've gotten up in front of HealthSouth employees," 840 00:44:49,103 --> 00:44:50,354 and you have made the statement 841 00:44:50,437 --> 00:44:52,981 that you are the smartest man on the planet. 842 00:44:53,941 --> 00:44:55,150 "Is that right?" 843 00:44:55,234 --> 00:44:57,361 And he went, "Yes." 844 00:44:59,905 --> 00:45:02,950 "You're so smart, you're the one that developed this fraud." 845 00:45:03,033 --> 00:45:05,285 You know, you figured... You got it through E&Y. 846 00:45:05,369 --> 00:45:08,080 You got it through the compliance committee, the fraud committee, 847 00:45:08,163 --> 00:45:10,249 because you are the smartest man on the planet. 848 00:45:10,666 --> 00:45:13,252 You hid it from everybody. 849 00:45:15,212 --> 00:45:16,797 "Including Richard Scrushy." 850 00:45:20,801 --> 00:45:23,011 [WHITMIRE] He came off as... 851 00:45:23,762 --> 00:45:24,847 shifty. 852 00:45:25,264 --> 00:45:27,349 And I don't think anybody on that jury 853 00:45:27,433 --> 00:45:30,811 loved Bill Owens by the time he came off the stand. 854 00:45:39,486 --> 00:45:40,487 [BIRDS CHIRPING] 855 00:45:44,742 --> 00:45:47,453 Well, I'd say it's a great day for the people of the United States 856 00:45:47,536 --> 00:45:49,288 because the justice system has worked. 857 00:45:49,371 --> 00:45:50,914 A defendant has been charged. 858 00:45:50,998 --> 00:45:52,291 He's had his day in court. 859 00:45:52,374 --> 00:45:55,669 He's had 55 days in court, and now the case is rested, 860 00:45:55,753 --> 00:45:58,589 and we will prepare over the next few days for our closing argument. 861 00:45:58,672 --> 00:46:01,508 [REPORTER] Are you satisfied with the case you put on? 862 00:46:01,592 --> 00:46:03,260 Very pleased with the case we put on. 863 00:46:03,343 --> 00:46:07,055 The evidence came in just as we expected, and I think it's overwhelming. 864 00:46:07,139 --> 00:46:09,475 [REPORTER] Fifty-five days of testimony. 865 00:46:09,558 --> 00:46:12,478 Complex, tedious, expert witnesses from both sides. 866 00:46:12,561 --> 00:46:14,161 How do you put it in a nutshell for 'em? 867 00:46:14,229 --> 00:46:15,105 Talk fast. 868 00:46:15,189 --> 00:46:17,608 [LAUGHTER] 869 00:46:17,691 --> 00:46:20,611 [PARKMAN] So we get to where we're working on closing. 870 00:46:20,694 --> 00:46:22,738 All the lawyers are sitting around the table, 871 00:46:22,821 --> 00:46:24,156 and I said, "You know", 872 00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,366 I think we oughta stay with the same theme: 873 00:46:26,825 --> 00:46:28,202 The Swiss cheese thing. 874 00:46:28,660 --> 00:46:30,621 I wish we could come up with something, 875 00:46:31,163 --> 00:46:32,206 you know, graphic, 876 00:46:32,289 --> 00:46:37,127 "because a picture beats a thousand words. I wish we could come up with something." 877 00:46:37,211 --> 00:46:39,630 And so, one of the young lawyers that was there, 878 00:46:39,713 --> 00:46:41,590 a real smart young guy, 879 00:46:41,673 --> 00:46:45,677 he's got his computer and he's figuring. He goes, "Hey, let me show you something." 880 00:46:46,178 --> 00:46:49,014 Uh, what about using a rat?" 881 00:46:49,681 --> 00:46:52,267 You know, when the ship starts going down, 882 00:46:52,684 --> 00:46:54,978 the first thing off a boat is a rat. 883 00:46:55,062 --> 00:46:56,313 They jump ship, 884 00:46:56,897 --> 00:46:59,066 just like the CFOs. 885 00:46:59,775 --> 00:47:01,485 It fit in with our theory 886 00:47:01,568 --> 00:47:03,529 that the rat is the person 887 00:47:03,612 --> 00:47:07,658 that cares less about the ship and the people on it. 888 00:47:07,741 --> 00:47:10,536 They care about themselves and saving their life. 889 00:47:11,870 --> 00:47:15,332 So I said, "I think I like this. What can you give me?" 890 00:47:15,415 --> 00:47:18,295 And he looked through some stuff, and then he turned the computer around, 891 00:47:18,627 --> 00:47:22,798 and I said, "That's it. Is there any way you can blow this up for me?" 892 00:47:22,881 --> 00:47:24,721 He says, "I'll have it for you in the morning." 893 00:47:29,096 --> 00:47:30,973 I felt a lot of pressure that day. 894 00:47:31,557 --> 00:47:33,642 I knew this closing argument 895 00:47:33,725 --> 00:47:36,812 is gonna make or break you as a lawyer in this business. 896 00:47:37,646 --> 00:47:39,022 Let's see if you can do it. 897 00:47:41,191 --> 00:47:43,569 I got up for the closing argument. 898 00:47:44,653 --> 00:47:46,280 We had two big boards which were hidden. 899 00:47:47,364 --> 00:47:50,075 So when I got to the end of my closing statement, 900 00:47:50,158 --> 00:47:54,621 I said, "And now, let's just get down to the real brass tacks about this case." 901 00:47:54,705 --> 00:47:56,498 Let's talk about the rat. 902 00:47:56,582 --> 00:47:59,751 Who's the rat?" And I pulled off something in front, 903 00:47:59,835 --> 00:48:04,172 and there was my poster of a cartoon rat with the cheese. 904 00:48:05,007 --> 00:48:06,842 And I looked at the jury. 905 00:48:06,925 --> 00:48:09,636 And they all of a sudden started smiling and laughing. 906 00:48:10,387 --> 00:48:15,517 And I knew that they recognized that that rat was Bill Owens. 907 00:48:16,935 --> 00:48:19,146 And my comment then was, 908 00:48:19,813 --> 00:48:22,274 "You'd recognize him anywhere, wouldn't ya?" 909 00:48:22,900 --> 00:48:24,776 And they all just started laughing. 910 00:48:25,944 --> 00:48:29,865 We've got Bill Owens, who is the architect of everything. 911 00:48:29,948 --> 00:48:32,993 And here he is, carrying the government's case, 912 00:48:33,410 --> 00:48:34,745 full of holes. 913 00:48:37,414 --> 00:48:39,374 [WHITMIRE] And then he starts crying. 914 00:48:39,958 --> 00:48:42,085 And he says, "Now..." 915 00:48:45,172 --> 00:48:46,172 I'm just... 916 00:48:46,965 --> 00:48:48,216 a simple lawyer 917 00:48:49,176 --> 00:48:50,719 from Dothan, Alabama. 918 00:48:52,220 --> 00:48:54,765 And if I've done anything to embarrass Richard, 919 00:48:54,848 --> 00:48:56,850 I don't want you to hold it against him. 920 00:48:58,769 --> 00:48:59,978 I want you... 921 00:49:00,979 --> 00:49:03,231 to listen to the man that's coming up after me 922 00:49:03,315 --> 00:49:04,983 "to finish the closing statement." 923 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,195 And everybody thought, "Nobody can top this." 924 00:49:08,278 --> 00:49:10,656 And then Donald Watkins gets up, 925 00:49:10,739 --> 00:49:14,034 walks over to the American flag, picks it up, 926 00:49:14,117 --> 00:49:16,119 and wraps it around himself. 927 00:49:16,828 --> 00:49:19,623 I really wasn't sure that what I was seeing was real. 928 00:49:22,209 --> 00:49:25,629 [WATKINS] What I found that has worked consistently 929 00:49:25,712 --> 00:49:29,716 throughout my legal career is an appeal to patriotism. 930 00:49:30,467 --> 00:49:33,595 I said, "Look, the protection of that flag", 931 00:49:33,679 --> 00:49:35,597 it means a lot to me. 932 00:49:35,681 --> 00:49:40,143 It lifted me from where I was as a child to where I am today. 933 00:49:40,769 --> 00:49:43,647 "And you guys and people like you made that happen." 934 00:49:44,648 --> 00:49:48,402 That's when he got into, uh, one of the greatest stories 935 00:49:49,277 --> 00:49:51,113 that I've ever heard on closing argument. 936 00:49:52,572 --> 00:49:56,702 When he grew up in Montgomery as a young boy, he'd go to town, 937 00:49:56,785 --> 00:49:59,413 and his mother would give him a peppermint. 938 00:50:00,372 --> 00:50:02,582 It wasn't to keep our breath fresh. 939 00:50:02,666 --> 00:50:04,543 It was, if the water fountain 940 00:50:04,626 --> 00:50:09,464 from which we were designated to drink was not working, 941 00:50:09,548 --> 00:50:12,509 it would keep our mouths moist long enough 942 00:50:12,592 --> 00:50:16,096 till my mother could find one that was working. 943 00:50:16,179 --> 00:50:19,224 And then, one day, 12 people like you, 944 00:50:19,307 --> 00:50:23,395 who were strangers to each other and strangers to my family, 945 00:50:23,854 --> 00:50:25,313 and many like me, 946 00:50:25,397 --> 00:50:28,942 said, "No. Miss Watkins' little kids" 947 00:50:29,026 --> 00:50:32,362 can drink out of any water fountain that worked." 948 00:50:32,446 --> 00:50:34,990 Then another group, just like you guys, said that... 949 00:50:35,073 --> 00:50:37,367 use any bathroom... He can sit at a lunch counter... 950 00:50:37,451 --> 00:50:39,661 buy a hamburger, French fries, and a small Coke... 951 00:50:39,745 --> 00:50:42,164 go to any school he's qualified to get into... 952 00:50:42,247 --> 00:50:44,727 said he can go to law school at the University of Alabama... 953 00:50:44,791 --> 00:50:46,551 Twelve people, just like you, sat in a box... 954 00:50:46,585 --> 00:50:50,338 But I don't think that's what the 680,000 Americans... 955 00:50:50,422 --> 00:50:53,842 They had them jumping on top of grenades, taking bullets in the head... 956 00:50:53,925 --> 00:50:58,180 made it possible for me to be here in front of you today... 957 00:50:58,805 --> 00:51:00,682 to represent Richard Scrushy. 958 00:51:02,142 --> 00:51:04,561 This is your Iwo Jima moment. 959 00:51:04,644 --> 00:51:06,480 You were summoned to duty. 960 00:51:07,647 --> 00:51:10,108 It is our duty for the country, 961 00:51:11,109 --> 00:51:14,071 for the Constitution, and for truth. 962 00:51:14,738 --> 00:51:15,738 "Thank you." 963 00:51:18,283 --> 00:51:21,387 [REPORTER 1] Sixteen weeks of presenting evidence that started in late January. 964 00:51:21,411 --> 00:51:23,830 How do you feel now that that section of the trial is over? 965 00:51:23,914 --> 00:51:25,850 Well, we're... we're happy to have it to the jury. 966 00:51:25,874 --> 00:51:28,168 Very happy and very pleased with how things came in. 967 00:51:28,251 --> 00:51:30,545 [REPORTER 2] And again, assessing the attackers, 968 00:51:30,629 --> 00:51:32,547 the prosecution more matter of fact, 969 00:51:32,631 --> 00:51:35,509 going by the evidence that's been presented here. The defense... 970 00:51:35,592 --> 00:51:36,992 Yeah, we talked about the evidence. 971 00:51:37,052 --> 00:51:40,222 The defense talked about, let's see, Montgomery, civil rights, 972 00:51:40,305 --> 00:51:42,974 wrapping themselves in the flag, Iwo Jima. 973 00:51:43,058 --> 00:51:44,643 If you've got an irrelevant subject, 974 00:51:44,726 --> 00:51:46,686 it was probably in the closing you heard today. 975 00:51:46,770 --> 00:51:49,450 - [MAN] So you're the government... - [MARTIN] We're the government. 976 00:51:49,523 --> 00:51:51,358 [MAN] But he's wrapped in the flag. 977 00:51:51,733 --> 00:51:52,734 Securely. 978 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:56,696 [MAN] How do you beat that? 979 00:51:57,072 --> 00:51:59,282 Uh, we didn't. [LAUGHS] 980 00:51:59,366 --> 00:52:00,366 We didn't. 981 00:52:00,826 --> 00:52:03,787 In a federal courtroom in Birmingham, Alabama today, 982 00:52:03,870 --> 00:52:05,580 the verdict was not guilty. 983 00:52:05,664 --> 00:52:06,498 Not guilty. 984 00:52:06,581 --> 00:52:09,292 Not guilty of any of the charges against him. 985 00:52:09,751 --> 00:52:11,545 [APPLAUSE AND CHEERING] 986 00:52:14,923 --> 00:52:17,634 [PARKMAN] I turned to one of the lawyers, and I went, 987 00:52:17,717 --> 00:52:18,969 "Did we win?" 988 00:52:20,011 --> 00:52:21,972 And he said, "We won, Jim." 989 00:52:22,931 --> 00:52:24,558 [SCRUSHY] I look up and Donald's crying. 990 00:52:24,641 --> 00:52:26,101 I'm like, "Wow. 991 00:52:27,686 --> 00:52:28,812 "This is powerful." 992 00:52:29,271 --> 00:52:32,149 Tears were coming out. They were real. They weren't fake. 993 00:52:32,232 --> 00:52:34,234 I was glad for Richard. 994 00:52:34,317 --> 00:52:36,778 I was glad for his family. I was glad for his wife. 995 00:52:37,404 --> 00:52:39,364 And I'll tell you this, I was glad for Jim. 996 00:52:39,948 --> 00:52:40,949 It worked. 997 00:52:41,575 --> 00:52:44,536 And it was like, "I'm validated now." 998 00:52:44,619 --> 00:52:47,247 What we had to do is we had to combine all the CFOs 999 00:52:47,330 --> 00:52:49,791 and put 'em under the wing of Bill Owens 1000 00:52:49,875 --> 00:52:52,210 and let that case ride on Bill Owens alone. 1001 00:52:52,294 --> 00:52:55,338 And... And like the cheese and the rat, you know... 1002 00:52:55,422 --> 00:52:58,633 Uh, that's right. And I think... I think we did that too. 1003 00:53:00,385 --> 00:53:02,053 [WATKINS] I was happy that we won 1004 00:53:02,137 --> 00:53:06,057 because I wanted to establish a certain standard 1005 00:53:06,141 --> 00:53:08,310 for an African-American lawyer 1006 00:53:08,393 --> 00:53:11,479 on a mainstream, high-profile case 1007 00:53:11,563 --> 00:53:14,691 that will never be broken in American jurisprudence, 1008 00:53:14,774 --> 00:53:17,110 and I think I did that with Scrushy's case. 1009 00:53:17,194 --> 00:53:20,572 Every case can be won, period. 1010 00:53:20,655 --> 00:53:22,782 We never start out with the philosophy 1011 00:53:22,866 --> 00:53:25,118 that it's gonna be "you can't win it." 1012 00:53:25,202 --> 00:53:31,458 It's... We start out, we gotta have 36 or 46 or 58 not guilty counts. 1013 00:53:31,541 --> 00:53:32,584 We start from there... 1014 00:53:32,667 --> 00:53:34,770 - [PARKMAN] How do we get there? - How do we get there? 1015 00:53:34,794 --> 00:53:36,171 [WATKINS] Why hang around? 1016 00:53:36,254 --> 00:53:38,465 I knew that that was, you know, pretty much it for me. 1017 00:53:38,548 --> 00:53:41,468 I left, uh, Birmingham the next day, moved to Miami. 1018 00:53:42,093 --> 00:53:43,637 [REVEREND] Let's go home, baby. 1019 00:53:43,720 --> 00:53:46,389 - Jesus taught us how to love each other. - That's it. That's it. 1020 00:53:46,473 --> 00:53:48,183 We gotta have compassion, folks, 1021 00:53:48,266 --> 00:53:51,811 'cause you don't know who's next, who's gonna be attacked next. 1022 00:53:52,312 --> 00:53:54,064 I was... You know, I was in that trial. 1023 00:53:54,147 --> 00:53:56,566 I saw the circus that they made of it every single day. 1024 00:53:56,650 --> 00:53:58,902 I saw that ridiculous defense. 1025 00:53:58,985 --> 00:54:02,197 But I still thought this jury is gonna see this and go, 1026 00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,116 "Okay. Well, this has been wildly entertaining, but come on. 1027 00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:06,534 This guy's guilty as sin." 1028 00:54:06,618 --> 00:54:08,787 I couldn't believe the verdict. 1029 00:54:10,288 --> 00:54:14,793 It was just another case of, "Damn! Richard is really smart." 1030 00:54:14,876 --> 00:54:16,002 [LAUGHING] 1031 00:54:17,545 --> 00:54:18,630 He pulled it off. 1032 00:54:19,214 --> 00:54:20,214 Yeah. 1033 00:54:20,966 --> 00:54:23,260 He should have to pay like I had to pay. 1034 00:54:24,135 --> 00:54:26,721 I mean, I went to prison. I lost all my stuff. 1035 00:54:27,347 --> 00:54:28,848 [POTEAU] Alice Martin would only say 1036 00:54:28,932 --> 00:54:30,767 that she was disappointed with the outcome. 1037 00:54:30,850 --> 00:54:33,270 We think that we did present overwhelming evidence, 1038 00:54:33,353 --> 00:54:34,813 but the jury saw differently. 1039 00:54:35,397 --> 00:54:36,439 [WHITMIRE] In the end, 1040 00:54:36,523 --> 00:54:40,068 the thing that the prosecution struggled with from the beginning 1041 00:54:40,151 --> 00:54:42,153 was to tell a story. 1042 00:54:42,237 --> 00:54:43,597 [REPORTER] Alice, what went wrong? 1043 00:54:43,655 --> 00:54:45,490 Do you think you made the case too complicated 1044 00:54:45,573 --> 00:54:46,693 for this jury to understand? 1045 00:54:46,741 --> 00:54:49,744 I don't know. Again, our job is to present the evidence, 1046 00:54:49,828 --> 00:54:51,997 and we'll need to hear some feedback from the jurors 1047 00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:53,873 to know what were the problems, 1048 00:54:53,957 --> 00:54:57,669 uh, that they encountered with, uh, their... their deliberations. 1049 00:54:58,336 --> 00:55:02,799 [MARTIN] Every loss is, uh, personal, but the system is beautiful. 1050 00:55:02,882 --> 00:55:04,718 And it's one that I stand by, 1051 00:55:05,385 --> 00:55:06,385 win or lose. 1052 00:55:22,777 --> 00:55:25,196 [LOWE] The purposes of God will always be fulfilled, 1053 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,532 regardless of what the plans of man are. 1054 00:55:27,615 --> 00:55:30,827 Richard had a spiritual umbrella over him 1055 00:55:30,910 --> 00:55:33,163 that covered him, that protected him. 1056 00:55:34,706 --> 00:55:36,958 After the trial, I told him, 1057 00:55:37,042 --> 00:55:39,210 "The reason you were found not guilty" 1058 00:55:39,294 --> 00:55:41,671 is because God gave you grace. 1059 00:55:42,422 --> 00:55:43,673 This is your church home. 1060 00:55:43,757 --> 00:55:44,924 This is where you belong, 1061 00:55:45,592 --> 00:55:47,344 "and you must always remember that." 1062 00:55:47,969 --> 00:55:49,429 We did not see him 1063 00:55:50,096 --> 00:55:51,765 too much more after that at all. 1064 00:55:59,939 --> 00:56:02,942 [PARKMAN] I had a conversation with him right after the trial. 1065 00:56:03,693 --> 00:56:06,654 And I told him, I said, "Richard, you know, I hate to say this," 1066 00:56:06,738 --> 00:56:09,908 but maybe it's best that you pick up 1067 00:56:10,575 --> 00:56:12,369 and just move somewhere else. 1068 00:56:12,452 --> 00:56:14,704 Take the family and go somewhere else. 1069 00:56:14,788 --> 00:56:15,788 Start over. 1070 00:56:16,915 --> 00:56:22,212 You know? Because there's just too much opinions left in this case here. 1071 00:56:23,046 --> 00:56:24,381 I don't care where you go. 1072 00:56:24,464 --> 00:56:25,548 Go buy an island. 1073 00:56:26,132 --> 00:56:27,550 "Just... Just move on." 1074 00:56:28,301 --> 00:56:29,969 And, of course, he didn't do it. 1075 00:56:33,973 --> 00:56:35,975 [PROSECUTOR] We're here to announce the indictment 1076 00:56:36,059 --> 00:56:38,436 of former governor Don Siegelman, 1077 00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:41,147 his former chief of staff, Paul Hamrick, 1078 00:56:41,231 --> 00:56:44,818 and Richard Scrushy, former CEO of HealthSouth. 1079 00:56:45,819 --> 00:56:48,822 When they came out and indicted him 1080 00:56:48,905 --> 00:56:52,200 for the bribery scandal against the governor, 1081 00:56:52,283 --> 00:56:54,327 it seemed like a lot of poetic justice. 1082 00:56:54,744 --> 00:56:56,788 Don't believe what the government is saying. 1083 00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:58,289 They're gonna twist the truth, 1084 00:56:58,373 --> 00:57:00,250 and they're gonna say things that are lies. 1085 00:57:00,333 --> 00:57:01,751 [SMITH] The charges themselves, 1086 00:57:01,835 --> 00:57:04,796 I could see that as maybe some manufactured charges 1087 00:57:04,879 --> 00:57:06,464 because they blew the first trial. 1088 00:57:07,257 --> 00:57:09,134 However, too bad, Richard. 1089 00:57:09,592 --> 00:57:11,261 Payback can be hell sometimes. 1090 00:57:13,930 --> 00:57:17,034 I got a call one day, and Richard said, "I want you to come back and talk to me. 1091 00:57:17,058 --> 00:57:19,727 I've just gotten indicted on this Montgomery case." 1092 00:57:21,896 --> 00:57:24,983 I kind of had a feeling the government was gonna come after him, 1093 00:57:25,066 --> 00:57:27,360 but this wasn't that big a case. 1094 00:57:28,903 --> 00:57:30,071 I called Donald. 1095 00:57:30,572 --> 00:57:32,073 Now, Donald moved on. 1096 00:57:32,157 --> 00:57:32,991 He's in Miami. 1097 00:57:33,074 --> 00:57:36,536 He's... He's highfalutin it down there with all the millionaires. 1098 00:57:36,619 --> 00:57:38,204 And Donald said, uh, 1099 00:57:38,288 --> 00:57:39,288 "Don't do it." 1100 00:57:39,998 --> 00:57:43,668 You've already won one of the biggest cases in the United States. 1101 00:57:43,751 --> 00:57:46,212 "You need to put this behind you and move on." 1102 00:57:47,046 --> 00:57:48,673 And so, I said to Richard, 1103 00:57:48,756 --> 00:57:52,093 I gave him a fee that was a little high maybe. 1104 00:57:52,594 --> 00:57:54,345 And, uh, he said, uh, 1105 00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:57,056 "Jim, I ain't paying that." 1106 00:57:57,599 --> 00:57:59,893 And he said, "I've already seen how you do it." 1107 00:58:00,727 --> 00:58:02,167 So I'll just get some other lawyers, 1108 00:58:02,228 --> 00:58:05,356 "and we'll fit your plan in with them, and we'll do it." 1109 00:58:07,317 --> 00:58:10,111 Okay. Well, good day for the defense. 1110 00:58:10,195 --> 00:58:11,613 [LAUGHTER] 1111 00:58:13,031 --> 00:58:15,843 [WHITMIRE] Local prosecutors wanted to give Richard Scrushy the proffer. 1112 00:58:15,867 --> 00:58:18,745 The folks in DC said, "No. 1113 00:58:18,828 --> 00:58:21,706 We get another bite at the apple. We get another shot." 1114 00:58:21,789 --> 00:58:23,666 We just want the truth. That's all we want. 1115 00:58:23,750 --> 00:58:27,670 We've been praying, this team of pastors. We've got a pretty large group here today. 1116 00:58:27,754 --> 00:58:29,464 We've been praying for the truth. 1117 00:58:29,839 --> 00:58:31,966 It's hard fighting the federal government, 1118 00:58:32,383 --> 00:58:33,968 even if you're Richard Scrushy. 1119 00:58:34,469 --> 00:58:35,720 They're gonna find a way. 1120 00:58:35,803 --> 00:58:36,803 [CHUCKLES] 1121 00:58:37,180 --> 00:58:38,180 And they did. 1122 00:58:39,140 --> 00:58:40,725 [NEWSMAN] Guilty as charged. 1123 00:58:40,808 --> 00:58:42,477 Former governor Don Siegelman 1124 00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:46,773 and HealthSouth founder Richard Scrushy are now convicted felons. 1125 00:58:46,856 --> 00:58:49,484 It's a message to, you know, Don Siegelman, 1126 00:58:49,567 --> 00:58:51,778 and to Richard Scrushy in particular, 1127 00:58:51,861 --> 00:58:54,739 'cause we just wanted this jury to hold them accountable 1128 00:58:54,822 --> 00:58:55,907 for what they did. 1129 00:58:55,990 --> 00:58:58,535 [NEWSWOMAN] Richard Scrushy was convicted of bribery 1130 00:58:58,618 --> 00:59:01,621 and was sentenced to seven years in a federal prison. 1131 00:59:15,009 --> 00:59:17,428 [SCRUSHY] They took everything away while I was in prison. 1132 00:59:20,056 --> 00:59:22,517 They took clothes. They took jewelry. 1133 00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:24,561 They took college degrees off the wall. 1134 00:59:24,644 --> 00:59:26,813 They took everything that I had. 1135 00:59:27,689 --> 00:59:30,525 It was very, very devastating to us, 1136 00:59:30,608 --> 00:59:33,361 that that could even happen in America. 1137 00:59:38,032 --> 00:59:41,911 After five years in prison, you come out, and you don't have a job. 1138 00:59:42,537 --> 00:59:43,788 You have no income. 1139 00:59:44,706 --> 00:59:45,706 You have nothing. 1140 00:59:46,541 --> 00:59:47,667 Yeah, I started over. 1141 00:59:48,334 --> 00:59:50,128 Totally started over again. 1142 00:59:53,756 --> 00:59:55,091 [REFLECTIVE MUSIC PLAYS] 1143 00:59:59,429 --> 01:00:01,931 [SCRUSHY] ...for I do not want you to be ignorant of the fact. 1144 01:00:02,015 --> 01:00:04,618 He said, "Look, don't be stupid of this. Don't be ignorant of this." 1145 01:00:04,642 --> 01:00:09,689 Don't act like you don't know this. I want you to know that God was there." 1146 01:00:18,031 --> 01:00:19,831 [WATKINS] A lot of people thought he got away. 1147 01:00:19,866 --> 01:00:22,368 The United States government thought he got away with it. 1148 01:00:22,744 --> 01:00:26,539 And I think that's a disservice by those people toward everybody. 1149 01:00:27,665 --> 01:00:29,834 He went through the system. 1150 01:00:29,917 --> 01:00:34,005 He didn't make this system up. He just was an unwilling participant 1151 01:00:34,088 --> 01:00:36,674 who was drug through the system. 1152 01:00:36,758 --> 01:00:38,092 And he prevailed. 1153 01:00:42,138 --> 01:00:44,223 [NEWSMAN] The big news today out of federal court, 1154 01:00:44,307 --> 01:00:46,684 a jury finding Donald Watkins Sr. 1155 01:00:46,768 --> 01:00:50,104 And his son Donald Watkins Jr. Both guilty of fraud. 1156 01:00:50,188 --> 01:00:52,690 The senior Watkins guilty on all counts: 1157 01:00:52,774 --> 01:00:55,276 Seven of wire fraud, two counts of bank fraud 1158 01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:57,070 and one count of conspiracy. 1159 01:01:10,792 --> 01:01:15,129 [PARKMAN] I found out early on in life that, generally, when you look at the law, 1160 01:01:15,797 --> 01:01:18,132 90 percent of the time, it's against you. 1161 01:01:19,384 --> 01:01:21,844 Well, doesn't matter about the law. 1162 01:01:22,970 --> 01:01:26,641 It's about being able to tell a story. 1163 01:01:27,850 --> 01:01:29,352 I'm here to please that jury. 1164 01:01:29,435 --> 01:01:32,397 I want them to stay with something they'll remember the rest of their life. 1165 01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:36,484 If you ask them about the Richard Scrushy case 20 years from today, 1166 01:01:36,567 --> 01:01:37,902 I want them to say, [CHUCKLES] 1167 01:01:37,985 --> 01:01:41,406 "Man, that rat poster was great," or... or something. That's what I want. 1168 01:01:47,036 --> 01:01:49,706 [MAN] Did your grandma really say that about the pancake? 1169 01:01:51,666 --> 01:01:52,709 Uh, no. 1170 01:01:54,168 --> 01:01:56,337 I made that up years ago. 1171 01:01:57,588 --> 01:01:58,840 She could have, 1172 01:01:59,298 --> 01:02:00,298 but she didn't.