1 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,920 The most important aspect to a project like this 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,460 is the love of the world of Star Wars, 3 00:00:12,300 --> 00:00:15,340 and to put that love into the storytelling. 4 00:00:15,430 --> 00:00:18,390 We all love special effects and fireworks 5 00:00:18,470 --> 00:00:21,350 and visual experiences that are incredible, 6 00:00:21,430 --> 00:00:25,480 but what we care the most about is relationships and characters. 7 00:00:30,230 --> 00:00:33,610 It's also taking a chance and certain risks 8 00:00:33,700 --> 00:00:35,820 that have incredible rewards, 9 00:00:35,910 --> 00:00:38,870 so that we can actually achieve something new. 10 00:00:42,450 --> 00:00:44,250 It's truly an adventure. 11 00:00:44,330 --> 00:00:46,540 A Star Wars adventure. 12 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,340 When we talked in the very beginning, 13 00:00:55,430 --> 00:00:56,970 I was interested in working with you. 14 00:00:57,050 --> 00:00:58,930 I mean, that was first. 15 00:00:59,850 --> 00:01:02,390 But I always want to see the script, man. 16 00:01:02,470 --> 00:01:04,310 I want to know, "What am I asked to do"? 17 00:01:04,390 --> 00:01:06,270 'Cause people have their agendas 18 00:01:06,350 --> 00:01:09,060 or they have their ways of seeing the world or... 19 00:01:09,150 --> 00:01:12,610 As an actor, what you're really doing is, you're... 20 00:01:13,610 --> 00:01:16,280 You're somehow endorsing 21 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,780 what someone wants to say about the world or in the world. 22 00:01:20,580 --> 00:01:25,080 So I read the script, and I'm thinking, "Damn, man, this is really good". 23 00:01:25,750 --> 00:01:28,130 "I really like what I'm reading". 24 00:01:28,210 --> 00:01:33,420 So all that is the context, and when I walk there 25 00:01:33,510 --> 00:01:35,880 and I look at the Mandalorian, 26 00:01:35,970 --> 00:01:39,850 I know where this thing is going. 27 00:01:39,930 --> 00:01:42,810 So now, it's for me to sell where this is going 28 00:01:42,890 --> 00:01:44,350 through my character, 29 00:01:44,430 --> 00:01:47,480 regardless of whether I can see his or her eyes. 30 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:52,690 There's something about the design of that whole thing with the Mandalorian 31 00:01:52,770 --> 00:01:54,940 that has its own kind of mystery... It does. 32 00:01:55,030 --> 00:01:56,570 We inherited that from George. 33 00:01:56,650 --> 00:01:58,910 It's cool. George really borrowed Boba Fett 34 00:01:58,990 --> 00:02:02,200 from Man With No Name, because if you think about it, 35 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:08,750 it still has that sort of breakdown of Eastwood's straight brim like that. 36 00:02:08,830 --> 00:02:10,210 Just kind of over the eyes. 37 00:02:10,290 --> 00:02:13,130 And the poncho over the shoulder and over the back, 38 00:02:13,210 --> 00:02:14,710 and they put in a spur sound. 39 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,970 That was the gunfighter. Deconstructed gunfighter iconography. 40 00:02:19,380 --> 00:02:21,220 Mandalorian isn't a race. 41 00:02:22,640 --> 00:02:24,100 It's a Creed. 42 00:02:36,490 --> 00:02:41,820 I love the opportunity to make him as human and as accessible as possible, 43 00:02:41,910 --> 00:02:44,790 which is strange to say because it's impossible to get to him 44 00:02:44,870 --> 00:02:47,200 'cause he's covered in armor from head to toe. 45 00:02:49,370 --> 00:02:53,290 And yet, the idea is that, you know, he's relatable. 46 00:02:53,380 --> 00:02:59,170 We're all kind of covered in our own armor and terrified of taking that armor off. 47 00:02:59,260 --> 00:03:02,720 And that's the thing that crosses him over into a character 48 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,600 that we're all gonna really want to follow. 49 00:03:11,310 --> 00:03:13,610 Have you ever removed your helmet? 50 00:03:13,690 --> 00:03:15,020 No. 51 00:03:15,110 --> 00:03:17,230 Has it ever been removed by others? 52 00:03:18,110 --> 00:03:19,360 Never. 53 00:03:20,950 --> 00:03:22,610 This is the Way. 54 00:03:22,700 --> 00:03:23,950 This is the Way. 55 00:03:24,830 --> 00:03:29,410 Mandalorians, and as far as our Mandalorian is aware, 56 00:03:29,500 --> 00:03:32,670 cannot reveal their faces. 57 00:03:32,750 --> 00:03:35,670 Our Mandalorian subscribes to this. 58 00:03:36,380 --> 00:03:41,430 If he ever reveals his face, he can never put his helmet back on again. 59 00:03:41,510 --> 00:03:44,760 You know, he cannot be a Mandalorian anymore. 60 00:03:45,430 --> 00:03:47,310 And he's wondering, 61 00:03:47,390 --> 00:03:50,890 "Can I take off my helmet? Can I be at peace"? 62 00:03:52,230 --> 00:03:54,560 I wonder what you look like under there. 63 00:03:54,650 --> 00:03:55,810 Let's all see your eyes. 64 00:03:59,650 --> 00:04:01,360 It is definitely a challenge 65 00:04:01,450 --> 00:04:03,910 to try to really get the emotional complexity 66 00:04:03,990 --> 00:04:06,330 or to get very nuanced performance 67 00:04:06,410 --> 00:04:08,330 when, obviously, the main character 68 00:04:08,410 --> 00:04:10,450 is in full armor and you can't see his face. 69 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:19,050 How do you convey that sense of connection to someone that we can't see his eyes? 70 00:04:20,550 --> 00:04:24,840 I, as a storyteller and an audience member want to see that, 71 00:04:24,930 --> 00:04:26,430 want to see what's behind the mask. 72 00:04:32,850 --> 00:04:37,980 Working with, you know, the actor to use the physicality, so it's just... 73 00:04:38,070 --> 00:04:41,820 Even just the littlest head turn, a lot of it was about stillness, 74 00:04:42,740 --> 00:04:45,780 which was about, like, staying very, very still 75 00:04:45,860 --> 00:04:47,450 when something significant happens, 76 00:04:47,530 --> 00:04:50,450 so you can feel that everything stopped for a moment, 77 00:04:50,540 --> 00:04:53,540 so when there's a gesture, it's a very meaningful gesture. 78 00:04:53,620 --> 00:04:57,420 So we were trying to really sort of use the stillness of the character 79 00:04:57,500 --> 00:05:00,340 so that any little gesture really meant something 80 00:05:00,420 --> 00:05:03,130 and to try to have that to sort of show emotionally 81 00:05:03,220 --> 00:05:06,550 how he's feeling and what he's thinking without being able to see his eyes. 82 00:05:08,970 --> 00:05:13,980 When you have a character like that, you really sort of lean into his face more 83 00:05:14,060 --> 00:05:17,980 because you want to get a peek inside of what's behind there. 84 00:05:18,060 --> 00:05:23,360 So every bit of who he is becomes significant in a way. 85 00:05:24,070 --> 00:05:28,280 And in some ways, as an audience, I think we're going to be looking 86 00:05:28,370 --> 00:05:32,160 to sort of project our own emotions onto his experience. 87 00:05:40,290 --> 00:05:43,340 I think it's in the eighth episode... Yeah, final episode. 88 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:48,050 When we slip the helmet off you. Like halfway through. 89 00:05:48,140 --> 00:05:49,760 Just for a moment, goes back on. 90 00:05:49,850 --> 00:05:53,310 I loved how you looked under it, because... 91 00:05:53,390 --> 00:05:55,270 A mess. 'Cause when they...no, it is... 92 00:05:55,350 --> 00:05:56,600 Well, there's that story. 93 00:05:56,690 --> 00:05:57,980 What? Which one? 94 00:05:58,060 --> 00:06:01,270 The trip to the hospital? Yeah. 95 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,190 It's very embarrassing. 96 00:06:03,280 --> 00:06:07,280 I'm telling you, I have been in the most dangerous circumstances. 97 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:11,160 To sell all my previous employers out, I will tell you that none... 98 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:15,330 There were so many things that shouldn't have been happening for months at a time. 99 00:06:15,410 --> 00:06:19,580 I was on tin roofs in ruins in South America. 100 00:06:19,670 --> 00:06:21,590 I was like, "One little slip 101 00:06:21,670 --> 00:06:24,300 "and I'm definitely done for the rest of my life". 102 00:06:24,380 --> 00:06:26,670 I was like, "We kept... China for five months. 103 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,090 This way, he got hurt in his trailer. The Matthew Vaughn movies. 104 00:06:30,180 --> 00:06:33,060 I stepped out of the makeup trailer looking at my sides 105 00:06:33,140 --> 00:06:35,180 and walk into a piece of plywood. Yes. 106 00:06:35,270 --> 00:06:36,560 Never gone to the hospital 107 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:38,940 from work before. The bad part was this. 108 00:06:39,020 --> 00:06:42,020 He was made up because it was the scene after the explosion, 109 00:06:42,110 --> 00:06:45,070 and he's bleeding out of his ears, he's covered with blood. 110 00:06:45,150 --> 00:06:46,150 Yeah. Yes. 111 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,360 So what's the real blood and what's... So he goes 112 00:06:48,450 --> 00:06:50,910 to the emergency room, they're like, "Let him in!" 113 00:06:51,370 --> 00:06:53,490 "Look at his condition". They're like, 114 00:06:53,580 --> 00:06:55,660 "This guy's at death's door". 115 00:06:55,740 --> 00:06:58,000 I was sitting next to him in the makeup trailer 116 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,290 and they're adding blood, adding blood. And then... 117 00:07:00,370 --> 00:07:02,250 I come right back in and blood's coming... 118 00:07:02,330 --> 00:07:04,800 They call me for rehearsal, I come out and I'm like, 119 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:08,880 "Damn, they did a really good job. Like, this is so real". 120 00:07:08,970 --> 00:07:10,760 And he was holding his nose. 121 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,640 You had to get stitches. I had seven stitches. 122 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,520 Seven stitches. It was so cool, 123 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,230 and this is, I think, pride points, 124 00:07:19,310 --> 00:07:21,270 is you went to the hospital and came back. 125 00:07:21,350 --> 00:07:25,150 Oh, please. You guys had moved. That was like a hockey player. 126 00:07:25,230 --> 00:07:27,190 Come on. You guys moved. You went off the ice, 127 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:28,740 and came right back. You moved... 128 00:07:28,820 --> 00:07:30,740 It was awesome. You moved mountains. 129 00:07:30,820 --> 00:07:33,060 A puck to the head, came back... You moved mountains, 130 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,530 I couldn't get from the makeup trailer to a rehearsal. 131 00:07:35,620 --> 00:07:40,080 What was good, though, is that the scene was about somebody who... 132 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,210 So it was perfect. Injured. It was perfect. 133 00:07:42,290 --> 00:07:44,330 You were really in it. Method. 134 00:07:44,420 --> 00:07:45,670 You were really in it. 135 00:07:45,750 --> 00:07:49,090 I would be bragging about that story. That's amazing. 136 00:07:49,170 --> 00:07:50,260 Yeah. Great story. 137 00:07:50,340 --> 00:07:52,680 Can I just comment on the helmet thing, though? 138 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:53,840 Oh, yeah. 139 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,760 I found it really a challenge. 140 00:07:59,140 --> 00:08:01,560 When you're across from somebody, they're throwing 141 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:03,150 body language at you. Yes. 142 00:08:03,230 --> 00:08:05,230 And these two things here... Sure. 143 00:08:05,310 --> 00:08:06,690 You can be saying one thing, 144 00:08:06,770 --> 00:08:08,980 but these two things tell me something different. 145 00:08:09,070 --> 00:08:11,820 And I'm responding to what you're throwing. 146 00:08:11,900 --> 00:08:13,950 You're hitting the ball this way... Right. 147 00:08:14,030 --> 00:08:16,240 Whatever it's doing, I have to adjust for it. 148 00:08:16,330 --> 00:08:18,080 And that helmet... It's a mask. 149 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,660 Yeah. It is flat. 150 00:08:20,750 --> 00:08:22,160 There is nothing. 151 00:08:22,250 --> 00:08:24,500 So you have to... 152 00:08:24,580 --> 00:08:27,460 I have to listen so acutely to the voice 153 00:08:28,170 --> 00:08:32,220 and hope that that voice is gonna cue me to what this person is. 154 00:08:32,300 --> 00:08:33,550 Not just the words, 155 00:08:33,630 --> 00:08:36,680 but what they're really saying under it. Yes, yes. 156 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:37,850 And it's a challenge. 157 00:08:37,930 --> 00:08:40,970 It makes you focus even more and concentrate even more 158 00:08:41,060 --> 00:08:44,100 and become even more still, if that's possible. 159 00:08:44,190 --> 00:08:48,940 You become a hummingbird. It's like, "Okay, you better go to work". 160 00:08:56,110 --> 00:09:01,830 I am third fiddle to two incredible guys, Brendan Wayne and Lateef. 161 00:09:01,910 --> 00:09:07,250 I'm modeling my performance around their physicality in a lot of ways. 162 00:09:07,330 --> 00:09:09,630 And I wouldn't be able to do it without them. 163 00:09:09,710 --> 00:09:11,300 Brendan knows how to handle a gun, 164 00:09:11,380 --> 00:09:15,180 so the gunslinger aspect of the Mandalorian 165 00:09:15,260 --> 00:09:17,720 is taken care of on that side. 166 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:19,010 I got to pull guns. 167 00:09:19,680 --> 00:09:22,810 I got to shoot guns. I got to shoot grappling hooks. 168 00:09:22,890 --> 00:09:24,100 It's fun. It's fun. 169 00:09:24,180 --> 00:09:26,400 And then we have Lateef Crowder, 170 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:32,820 who is our Capoeira, Jujitsu warrior who can basically do anything. 171 00:09:32,900 --> 00:09:35,280 You know, the secret is to always be ready. 172 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,700 I'm always training. Whether it's martial arts, 173 00:09:38,780 --> 00:09:40,200 whether it's stunt training, 174 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,040 whether it's weight training, just physical fitness. 175 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,960 Always got to stay ready and just be ready to adapt. 176 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:47,500 I'm a Mandalorian. 177 00:09:50,340 --> 00:09:52,550 Thanks, guys. That's a wrap for us as well. 178 00:09:53,300 --> 00:09:55,630 You worked with three different people. Yeah. 179 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,220 They're all the same mask. 180 00:09:57,300 --> 00:09:59,640 But I know on film I can tell slightly the difference. 181 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,970 Not just from the...could you tell the difference with each one? 182 00:10:03,060 --> 00:10:04,930 I could... All felt like the Mandalorian? 183 00:10:05,020 --> 00:10:06,560 'Cause it comes off on film... 184 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,060 All as one? Yeah, it feels... 185 00:10:08,150 --> 00:10:10,690 Yeah, yeah. So for me, 186 00:10:10,770 --> 00:10:15,650 you all brought the physicality, the incredible acting, 187 00:10:15,740 --> 00:10:19,870 and the brotherhood that I had in the other one. 188 00:10:19,950 --> 00:10:22,700 So it was kind of you all make up 189 00:10:22,780 --> 00:10:24,370 the Mandalorian for me. Right. 190 00:10:24,450 --> 00:10:29,960 And, um, I have such a good connection with all of you guys. 191 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:34,090 You're very smart with your choices, and you know what's going on in the scene. 192 00:10:34,170 --> 00:10:38,300 And a lot of emotion has to come through, just the voice. 193 00:10:40,430 --> 00:10:42,510 I can bring you in warm... 194 00:10:44,180 --> 00:10:45,600 Or I can bring you in cold. 195 00:10:45,680 --> 00:10:46,850 I think that's perfect. 196 00:10:46,930 --> 00:10:49,440 It's interesting doing voice-over. 197 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,480 We get to really improvise our way through it. 198 00:10:53,570 --> 00:10:54,780 Lower your blaster. 199 00:10:54,860 --> 00:10:56,190 Have them lower theirs. 200 00:10:57,490 --> 00:10:58,990 I'm in the Guild! 201 00:10:59,070 --> 00:11:02,490 Me and Jon and Dave doing some rewriting on the spot 202 00:11:02,570 --> 00:11:05,410 and finessing to get it right. Boom! 203 00:11:05,990 --> 00:11:07,410 I want my next job. 204 00:11:08,500 --> 00:11:10,960 Do a round of this one, and we'll jump to that scene. 205 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,290 Wait. Just wait. 206 00:11:13,380 --> 00:11:16,380 The trick with this episode is for us to plant the seed 207 00:11:16,460 --> 00:11:19,800 so that when you change your mind, it feels earned. 208 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:21,300 This is the Way. 209 00:11:21,390 --> 00:11:22,800 This is the Way. 210 00:11:24,930 --> 00:11:27,810 That's good. That one's really good. Yeah, that's great. 211 00:11:38,820 --> 00:11:42,320 We never talked about your career as a professional fighter. 212 00:11:42,410 --> 00:11:43,450 So I just knew you... 213 00:11:43,530 --> 00:11:48,370 I liked you from Haywire. I liked your other work, Deadpool. 214 00:11:48,450 --> 00:11:51,790 We know Soderbergh through the Guild. 215 00:11:51,870 --> 00:11:53,080 He's got really good taste. 216 00:11:53,170 --> 00:11:55,420 I was like, "He picked you out and got you"? 217 00:11:55,500 --> 00:11:57,090 And then...great job. 218 00:11:57,170 --> 00:11:59,920 And I was like, "She could be good for this part". 219 00:12:00,010 --> 00:12:05,010 Then I just started watching tape on you, and you remember, it wasn't an audition. 220 00:12:05,100 --> 00:12:06,680 No. It was a phone call. 221 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:08,720 Thank God, because I don't know... 222 00:12:08,810 --> 00:12:10,520 I'm starting to get better at auditions. 223 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,270 You were in the story illustrations 224 00:12:12,350 --> 00:12:16,020 within my first meeting with these guys. 225 00:12:16,110 --> 00:12:18,360 That was... In the room of pictures. 226 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:24,200 And I don't know if they had spoken to you yet, but you were in it. 227 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,530 I trust my...yeah. And they were like, 228 00:12:26,620 --> 00:12:27,830 "I don't know if you know". 229 00:12:27,910 --> 00:12:29,750 I said, "Gina Carano from Haywire". 230 00:12:29,830 --> 00:12:31,790 Oh, my gosh. Absolutely. 231 00:12:31,870 --> 00:12:36,040 Oh, my gosh. Well, I'm completely, like, overwhelmed by... 232 00:12:36,130 --> 00:12:38,590 Because I don't feel like the regular actress, 233 00:12:38,670 --> 00:12:42,800 and I don't think I'm ever gonna be very Hollywood. 234 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,890 So I just feel like the people that find me, 235 00:12:45,970 --> 00:12:50,970 like you, Soderbergh, are people that, um... 236 00:12:51,850 --> 00:12:54,940 See a little bit of your soul? Yes, thank you for that. 237 00:12:57,060 --> 00:13:00,570 I, for this job, physically... 238 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,110 I was myself. 239 00:13:06,700 --> 00:13:12,660 Jon wanted to put a woman that looks like she can take care of business in armor, 240 00:13:12,750 --> 00:13:18,420 and he actually, through this job, has helped me learn to love what I am. 241 00:13:20,710 --> 00:13:23,420 I think when everybody realized I was strong... 242 00:13:23,510 --> 00:13:25,630 was a scene where I have to pick up Mando, 243 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,720 and I have to drag him into the common house. 244 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,270 And I went out there, and I got behind him, 245 00:13:31,350 --> 00:13:34,060 and I picked him up from behind and I drug him in. 246 00:13:34,140 --> 00:13:36,770 When she is carrying Mando, 247 00:13:36,850 --> 00:13:39,570 she really carried him. That wasn't a stunt double. 248 00:13:39,650 --> 00:13:44,070 That was Gina just strong-arming him and just dragging him across that. 249 00:13:44,150 --> 00:13:45,200 It was crazy. 250 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,490 It's awesome being a young woman in this industry 251 00:13:47,570 --> 00:13:51,620 and seeing other women being portrayed in a really heroic, badass light. 252 00:13:51,700 --> 00:13:53,290 Gina is a perfect example of that. 253 00:13:56,830 --> 00:14:00,670 Gina lights up when she is doing the action stuff. 254 00:14:00,750 --> 00:14:04,920 Like, you can tell she loves being that character in this world. 255 00:14:05,010 --> 00:14:09,050 And also, her expressions when she's in those fight scenes, 256 00:14:09,140 --> 00:14:10,550 that's not easy to do. Yes. 257 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:14,220 The way she takes a hit, that's what made Harrison Ford a star, 258 00:14:14,310 --> 00:14:16,560 he knew how to take a punch as Indiana Jones. 259 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,980 His hand would hurt when he punched. 260 00:14:19,060 --> 00:14:21,900 He was very human. He didn't play it like a superhero. 261 00:14:21,980 --> 00:14:25,940 He played it vulnerable, and you experienced it through his eyes. 262 00:14:26,030 --> 00:14:29,620 And I think Gina, also partially 'cause of her background, right? 263 00:14:29,700 --> 00:14:32,280 She's actually punched people, and she's been punched. 264 00:14:32,370 --> 00:14:34,330 And I think that's a huge difference. 265 00:14:34,410 --> 00:14:36,500 Like, I mean, it's like when you see... 266 00:14:36,580 --> 00:14:41,040 When you're doing a fight scene and you actually haven't experienced that, 267 00:14:41,130 --> 00:14:43,670 it's like you're just at a huge disadvantage. 268 00:14:43,750 --> 00:14:48,050 And she is, you know, she was a professional fighter for so many years. 269 00:14:48,130 --> 00:14:50,890 I love it, too, 'cause it's...you know... 270 00:14:50,970 --> 00:14:54,640 George Lucas was referencing an older generation. 271 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:56,350 You know, he was a baby boomer, 272 00:14:56,430 --> 00:14:58,560 he was referencing the Greatest Generations films. 273 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:02,940 So he was referencing World War II films and the movies he grew up with. 274 00:15:03,020 --> 00:15:04,480 And he... 275 00:15:04,570 --> 00:15:09,780 And the way he would treat action was the way that those films treated action. 276 00:15:09,860 --> 00:15:12,320 The way they would cast action heroes back then 277 00:15:12,410 --> 00:15:14,580 would be people who really, like... 278 00:15:14,660 --> 00:15:17,160 Especially with Westerns, they would go at Gower Gulch. 279 00:15:17,250 --> 00:15:18,910 There'd be real cowboys, and people 280 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:23,590 who really knew how to ride and rope, knew how to fight and knew how to shoot. 281 00:15:23,670 --> 00:15:25,630 And it was all very authentic. 282 00:15:25,710 --> 00:15:28,050 That's how people became movie stars sometimes. 283 00:15:28,130 --> 00:15:30,300 They were people who actually had that background. 284 00:15:30,380 --> 00:15:33,220 It's almost like what we do with martial arts now, those films, 285 00:15:33,300 --> 00:15:36,270 that people become actors out of that skill-set. 286 00:15:36,350 --> 00:15:40,190 So having her there, it was a bit of a throwback to me. 287 00:15:40,270 --> 00:15:43,810 And to me, there's so much...there's so... 288 00:15:43,900 --> 00:15:47,860 I don't know, there's something so relatable about her in that role, 289 00:15:47,940 --> 00:15:52,450 and she's playing the type of role that I would have... 290 00:15:52,530 --> 00:15:54,870 The type of action figure I'd have wanted the most. 291 00:15:55,530 --> 00:15:57,370 Cara Dune here was a veteran. 292 00:15:57,450 --> 00:15:59,500 She was a drop soldier for the Rebellion, 293 00:15:59,580 --> 00:16:02,080 and she's gonna lay out a plan for you, so listen carefully. 294 00:16:02,170 --> 00:16:03,630 Open fire. 295 00:16:03,710 --> 00:16:07,710 When it came to the costume and the look and everything, 296 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:09,260 Kathy Kennedy said, 297 00:16:09,340 --> 00:16:14,260 "The thing about Star Wars characters, they always have a silhouette". 298 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:19,020 You can see them from a distance, and you know who they are. 299 00:16:19,100 --> 00:16:21,230 You know if Han Solo is walking towards you 300 00:16:21,310 --> 00:16:24,060 versus Obi-Wan Kenobi. 301 00:16:24,150 --> 00:16:25,150 Hello there. 302 00:16:25,230 --> 00:16:28,150 You just know the difference 'cause there's a silhouette. 303 00:16:28,230 --> 00:16:33,360 And you see Gina 50 feet away and she's back-lit, and you know it's her. 304 00:16:33,990 --> 00:16:36,410 She looks like a warrior. 305 00:16:36,490 --> 00:16:39,450 There's no other way to put it. She looks like a warrior. 306 00:16:39,540 --> 00:16:41,290 Cara is an ex-shock trooper. 307 00:16:41,370 --> 00:16:44,000 She comes from the planet Alderaan, 308 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:48,050 which is a very peaceful planet, and it obviously gets blown up. 309 00:16:48,130 --> 00:16:50,510 So she left there, 310 00:16:50,590 --> 00:16:53,590 so she was a bit of a different character on her planet. 311 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,050 She was the rebellious one. 312 00:16:55,140 --> 00:16:57,970 She was like, "I'm interested in war and fighting. 313 00:16:58,060 --> 00:17:00,310 "Interested in things that get your adrenaline going". 314 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,230 I feel like this is the first time 315 00:17:06,310 --> 00:17:09,650 I've actually, like, genuinely gotten into character. 316 00:17:11,900 --> 00:17:13,200 Come to Mama. 317 00:17:15,950 --> 00:17:19,240 There's a certain way that you carry your body. 318 00:17:19,330 --> 00:17:24,040 There's a certain way that you play...a certain confidence you hold. 319 00:17:24,120 --> 00:17:27,250 So many actors show that they're tough. 320 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:29,090 Tough people that I know 321 00:17:29,170 --> 00:17:31,920 don't show they're tough. They know that they're tough. 322 00:17:32,010 --> 00:17:35,090 And then the status comes out just through the attitude. 323 00:17:35,180 --> 00:17:38,430 And that comes from knowing that you've been in situations 324 00:17:38,510 --> 00:17:40,310 and you've handled it, you know. 325 00:17:40,390 --> 00:17:42,770 I know 'cause I can see it 'cause I'm not that way. 326 00:17:42,850 --> 00:17:44,230 I know that I'm not. 327 00:17:44,310 --> 00:17:46,980 Let's talk about the other side of the spectrum. 328 00:17:47,060 --> 00:17:49,360 Wait, you are... So, Pedro... 329 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,070 Let's talk about the dorks that get the gig. 330 00:17:54,990 --> 00:17:59,530 Wait, can I just say something about...Carl was, uh...Jon... 331 00:17:59,620 --> 00:18:04,120 I don't know. The emotional intelligence... 332 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,170 I feel like you get the way I think and feel, 333 00:18:06,250 --> 00:18:08,210 what I've been through in my career without... 334 00:18:08,290 --> 00:18:12,550 I've never even had dinner with you. We've just met in these office buildings. 335 00:18:12,630 --> 00:18:14,460 We've been working a lot together. That. 336 00:18:14,550 --> 00:18:15,970 You spend a lot of time here. 337 00:18:16,050 --> 00:18:18,340 You really get it. There's a genius in that. 338 00:18:18,430 --> 00:18:20,850 I completely, 100% believe that. 339 00:18:20,930 --> 00:18:24,930 He would tell me, when Carl was on film, he would bring me back, 340 00:18:25,020 --> 00:18:28,480 and every time I needed to see something and be educated of something, 341 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,020 he'd be like, "Come here. Let me show you something. 342 00:18:31,110 --> 00:18:33,230 "Listen to him. Watch him. 343 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:37,360 "He is a superstar. This is what a superstar is. 344 00:18:37,450 --> 00:18:39,910 "Listen to his voice, listen to the way..." 345 00:18:39,990 --> 00:18:42,910 When he turns it on, it is so incredible. 346 00:18:42,990 --> 00:18:48,580 It was so beautiful to watch you, Carl. Your voice is... 347 00:18:48,670 --> 00:18:51,880 I mean, your voice is so powerful and so beautiful, 348 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,050 it just sounds like a song, everybody can hear it in the room. 349 00:18:55,130 --> 00:18:57,670 And we all looked around and thought to ourselves, 350 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:00,180 "That is a superstar". 351 00:19:00,260 --> 00:19:02,930 And you have been a superstar, and I'm so honored 352 00:19:03,010 --> 00:19:05,850 to have those scenes with you. Good Lord. Thank you, Gina. 353 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,270 I, for one, I celebrate your success. 354 00:19:12,770 --> 00:19:14,860 Because it is my success as well. 355 00:19:14,940 --> 00:19:17,490 There's something about this character 356 00:19:18,650 --> 00:19:24,030 that reminds me of a combination of John Huston and Orson Welles. 357 00:19:24,120 --> 00:19:26,290 There is this largess about him, 358 00:19:26,370 --> 00:19:30,460 there is this commanding sort of presence about him 359 00:19:30,540 --> 00:19:34,250 that he doesn't try to do, but that's just who he is. 360 00:19:34,340 --> 00:19:38,590 When he walks into a space, not a room, any space, he fills that space. 361 00:19:38,670 --> 00:19:40,630 How do I know I can trust you? 362 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,890 Because I'm your only hope. 363 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:47,600 You can paint a character as an antagonist, as the bad guy, 364 00:19:48,390 --> 00:19:51,730 and I've never approached roles that way, ever. 365 00:19:51,810 --> 00:19:55,610 I find tremendous flaws in human beings. 366 00:19:55,690 --> 00:19:58,740 And at times, those flaws can lead a person astray, 367 00:19:58,820 --> 00:20:00,650 lead them to the dark side. 368 00:20:03,990 --> 00:20:09,960 So the story of Greef is that he is tempted. 369 00:20:12,370 --> 00:20:16,210 Carl Weathers is somebody that you just love to see and love to watch, 370 00:20:16,300 --> 00:20:18,630 because he commands presence. 371 00:20:18,710 --> 00:20:21,800 And he taught me a lot about that just by watching it. 372 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,260 And he'd also tell me on the side, you know... 373 00:20:24,340 --> 00:20:27,760 I remember one time I couldn't get something right, 374 00:20:27,850 --> 00:20:30,850 and I was just, like, you know, kind of upset with myself. 375 00:20:30,930 --> 00:20:34,560 And he was reading a paper, and he was like, "Happens to all of us". 376 00:20:34,650 --> 00:20:40,360 I was like, "All right, yup, I'm over it now. Like, thanks, Carl". 377 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:41,490 Um... 378 00:20:41,900 --> 00:20:45,030 But just a precious, precious human. 379 00:20:46,950 --> 00:20:49,120 Carl wasn't supposed to be in the whole show. 380 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:54,250 Carl was in episode one and then got knocked off in episode three. 381 00:20:54,330 --> 00:20:55,830 Three, yeah. He got knocked off? 382 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:57,170 I didn't know. Originally. 383 00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,710 He was gonna be in full prosthetics... 384 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:01,630 Yeah. As a different alien race. 385 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,340 Yup. And then we switched it up, 386 00:21:05,430 --> 00:21:07,640 and after he did it... 387 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,520 It was a favor. I said, "Come in and do this one..." 388 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,390 He said, "Fine. I don't really act much more, but fine". 389 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:17,980 So Carl's supposed to come in, he's gonna be in 101 and then 103... 390 00:21:18,070 --> 00:21:19,650 Out. He gets shot, he's out. 391 00:21:20,530 --> 00:21:22,650 So, "Okay, I'll do it as a favor". 392 00:21:22,740 --> 00:21:26,320 Then we start seeing that it's him... But then he came in and talked, 393 00:21:26,410 --> 00:21:28,990 and we were like, "How can we cover his face"? 394 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,660 So the first thing was, he can't be an alien. 395 00:21:31,750 --> 00:21:33,160 Yeah, no way. Come on. 396 00:21:33,250 --> 00:21:35,080 Like, how you gonna cover that? 397 00:21:35,170 --> 00:21:39,040 'Cause they did a drawing with Carl with the makeup on, and I'm like... 398 00:21:39,130 --> 00:21:42,460 I said to Carl, I said, "We can't cover you up". 399 00:21:42,550 --> 00:21:44,130 He's like, "I figured as much". 400 00:21:44,220 --> 00:21:45,800 He didn't even... 401 00:21:47,430 --> 00:21:50,760 Look, man, I was...the reason why... 402 00:21:50,850 --> 00:21:52,430 I'll tell you why I went with it. 403 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,940 I went with it because there was no reason to argue yet. 404 00:21:56,020 --> 00:21:58,400 I thought, "Okay, let's try it, man. 405 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,820 "I've never done it before, it sounds good to me". 406 00:22:00,900 --> 00:22:03,900 But then, I swear to God, I walk away and I'm thinking, 407 00:22:05,070 --> 00:22:08,530 "Okay, why would you do that"? 408 00:22:08,620 --> 00:22:12,830 Because people are gonna tune in if you got the name. 409 00:22:12,910 --> 00:22:14,540 Why not have the face? Yep. 410 00:22:14,620 --> 00:22:18,290 It's like, "Come on. You take it off eventually, right"? 411 00:22:18,380 --> 00:22:19,750 Well... Can you imagine... 412 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,260 In their well-researched sort of casting investigation, 413 00:22:23,340 --> 00:22:24,720 they were like... Hey, man. 414 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,720 "People are really ready to stop looking at this guy". 415 00:22:28,890 --> 00:22:30,720 There it is. "Put a helmet on his head". 416 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,350 Doesn't work that way. We thought, 417 00:22:32,430 --> 00:22:37,140 "Who would be cool with a great voice"? And then you start to say, "Well, look". 418 00:22:37,230 --> 00:22:39,440 we start talking in a meeting with him, it's like, 419 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,650 Carl, we gotta have him on camera. 420 00:22:42,730 --> 00:22:44,280 He belongs... I'm so happy. 421 00:22:44,360 --> 00:22:46,150 He feels like... That camera test moment 422 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,620 where you and I were shooting some stuff, and we were testing the cameras, 423 00:22:49,700 --> 00:22:53,540 and then we had a couple people in big masks and different prosthetics, 424 00:22:53,620 --> 00:22:55,160 we were trying... You were there. 425 00:22:55,250 --> 00:22:58,370 Some simple directing for it in a scene, 426 00:22:58,460 --> 00:23:02,130 and it was set up in the bar, I was sitting there, and I was nervous. 427 00:23:02,210 --> 00:23:04,420 He had never directed. Never directed live action. 428 00:23:04,510 --> 00:23:05,960 This was a test. 429 00:23:06,050 --> 00:23:08,970 He's like, "Okay, go ahead. You go. You go, you go do it". 430 00:23:09,050 --> 00:23:11,850 It's a guy with four eyes and a giant mask, and he can't see. 431 00:23:11,930 --> 00:23:14,850 He's bobbling. I go up... We had somebody wearing the Mando... 432 00:23:14,930 --> 00:23:16,850 You came, but you weren't in the test. Yeah. 433 00:23:16,930 --> 00:23:19,730 I'm trying to give a little direction, and I'm thinking, 434 00:23:19,810 --> 00:23:22,650 "Okay, I got to set this up right 'cause Jon's watching". 435 00:23:22,730 --> 00:23:25,150 I give the direction, "I want you to be here". 436 00:23:25,230 --> 00:23:27,990 and, "You're cutting the drink off, okay. You got it, you got it". 437 00:23:28,070 --> 00:23:30,490 And the guy is, like, in the mask like this. 438 00:23:30,570 --> 00:23:32,820 And I'm like, "Oh, my God, what is happening"? 439 00:23:32,910 --> 00:23:35,540 And I'm thinking, like, "I could draw this so much faster. 440 00:23:35,620 --> 00:23:37,450 "I could draw this. Why am I doing this"? 441 00:23:37,540 --> 00:23:39,750 We watched on the monitor. Watched on the monitor, 442 00:23:39,830 --> 00:23:42,540 and coach watches it, and he's like, "Okay, okay". 443 00:23:42,630 --> 00:23:44,550 He goes, "Okay, let me go". 444 00:23:44,630 --> 00:23:47,050 So he goes in. Now the first team goes in. 445 00:23:47,130 --> 00:23:49,930 You know, the punt team came off. First team goes in. 446 00:23:50,010 --> 00:23:52,850 He goes direct, he comes back, and he's, "Okay, watch". 447 00:23:52,930 --> 00:23:56,220 And we watch it. It was better, but it wasn't great. 448 00:23:56,310 --> 00:23:58,560 It was still clunky. We're sitting there like, 449 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,730 "Maybe these masks are a big mistake". 450 00:24:00,810 --> 00:24:03,190 We were like, "They can't see, can't do anything". 451 00:24:03,270 --> 00:24:06,070 They couldn't see, couldn't do anything. We're like, 452 00:24:06,150 --> 00:24:08,490 "We sold everybody on this vision". Yeah. 453 00:24:08,570 --> 00:24:10,570 Then we're doing the scene, I'm like... 454 00:24:10,650 --> 00:24:11,910 It's good that we... 455 00:24:11,990 --> 00:24:13,530 A blessing we get to see this thing. 456 00:24:13,620 --> 00:24:14,950 We couldn't even get Mando 457 00:24:15,030 --> 00:24:18,080 to sit down in the booth because of his gear. 458 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,170 And like, he's got the armor on and the hip pads, 459 00:24:21,250 --> 00:24:22,460 he tries to sit... 460 00:24:22,540 --> 00:24:25,000 It was a prototype costume. Clunk, clunk, clunk, clunk. 461 00:24:25,090 --> 00:24:26,420 I'm just like, "In animation, 462 00:24:26,500 --> 00:24:27,750 "he'd glide". I'll tell you. 463 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,760 Remember now, when he showed up, 464 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,470 put the helmet... It fit. 465 00:24:31,550 --> 00:24:33,970 And it was like... Yeah, then I relaxed. 466 00:24:34,050 --> 00:24:35,720 It was like butter. Then I relaxed. 467 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,140 When you have someone... 468 00:24:37,220 --> 00:24:40,520 So the trick is, it's not just people... Yeah. 469 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,730 In costumes that you guide around. 470 00:24:42,810 --> 00:24:45,610 Whoever's in there, has to be an actor. 471 00:24:46,360 --> 00:24:47,360 Yeah.