1 00:00:03,045 --> 00:00:05,881 Dude, did you see when you could see the laser in his helmet? 2 00:00:05,964 --> 00:00:07,216 Yeah, look at that. 3 00:00:07,299 --> 00:00:08,300 That's good. 4 00:00:08,383 --> 00:00:09,123 Yeah. 5 00:00:09,213 --> 00:00:10,844 Amazing what we get excited about here. 6 00:00:10,928 --> 00:00:11,970 - Exactly. - Look, a laser! 7 00:00:15,140 --> 00:00:16,141 Left. 8 00:00:17,309 --> 00:00:18,310 Right. 9 00:00:23,857 --> 00:00:27,277 I thought when the whole thing is rumbling and it's going like this 10 00:00:27,361 --> 00:00:30,072 and back, like, that's the intensity level we want. 11 00:00:30,155 --> 00:00:32,366 Everything has to build as we're doing it here. 12 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,915 Look back at the kid. Kid, forward now. 13 00:00:49,633 --> 00:00:50,717 And let's cut. 14 00:00:50,801 --> 00:00:51,541 Cut it! 15 00:00:52,188 --> 00:00:52,928 It's so hard. 16 00:00:53,011 --> 00:00:54,263 I mean, it's not wrong... 17 00:00:58,642 --> 00:01:01,895 One thing unifying us is we all love Star Wars. 18 00:01:01,979 --> 00:01:02,984 Right? That was a prerequisite. 19 00:01:03,074 --> 00:01:03,814 Yeah. 20 00:01:03,897 --> 00:01:07,025 But other than that, I don't know that we all have anything else in common 21 00:01:07,109 --> 00:01:09,444 as far as how we came in to directing. 22 00:01:10,696 --> 00:01:14,783 But each and every one of you came in and learned so quickly 23 00:01:14,867 --> 00:01:18,537 until you were actually pushing the medium in a different way, 24 00:01:18,620 --> 00:01:22,541 and allowing us to create the tools around what your needs were. 25 00:01:22,624 --> 00:01:24,084 And it was really fun for me. 26 00:01:24,167 --> 00:01:27,254 I've never been in this position 'cause I'm usually directing. 27 00:01:34,553 --> 00:01:35,637 On this project, 28 00:01:35,721 --> 00:01:38,932 it was interesting working with many Directors. 29 00:01:39,933 --> 00:01:43,729 Very lucky to work with Dave Filoni to get a strong vision of how he wanted, 30 00:01:43,812 --> 00:01:45,606 and Jon Favreau wanted the show to go. 31 00:01:45,689 --> 00:01:50,611 And then it was really interesting working with Rick and Deb and Bryce and Taika, 32 00:01:50,694 --> 00:01:53,739 'cause they all brought different things to the show and party. 33 00:01:53,822 --> 00:01:56,742 They all had different perspectives of the same vision, 34 00:01:56,825 --> 00:01:59,578 and it was wonderful to be able to execute that. 35 00:02:00,746 --> 00:02:01,788 Action. 36 00:02:04,333 --> 00:02:08,754 Jon Favreau explained like we were kind of like this Dirty Dozen, 37 00:02:08,837 --> 00:02:12,216 Magnificent Seven type of crew 38 00:02:12,299 --> 00:02:15,260 that he wanted to put together to help tell these stories, 39 00:02:15,344 --> 00:02:18,680 and wanted the different voices and personalities 40 00:02:18,764 --> 00:02:21,350 each of the filmmakers were bringing to the table, 41 00:02:21,433 --> 00:02:25,062 and wanted to accentuate that and bring that to the world of Star Wars. 42 00:02:29,066 --> 00:02:32,778 Really, for me, you go from never doing anything in live-action 43 00:02:32,861 --> 00:02:35,239 and shooting a Star Wars anything, 44 00:02:35,322 --> 00:02:39,910 it's a very complex arrangement of ideas and reality 45 00:02:39,993 --> 00:02:42,621 and imagination running together, 46 00:02:42,704 --> 00:02:45,499 and I'm very fortunate to have Jon here as, like, a mentor 47 00:02:45,582 --> 00:02:48,835 for things that he knows are hang-ups in live-action 48 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:53,048 or are things that are difficult, so he helps steer what I'm doing, 49 00:02:53,131 --> 00:02:56,426 and it's actually a continuation of my education. 50 00:03:02,057 --> 00:03:05,602 It's more of a passerby-moment throwaway. It's not like a focused... 51 00:03:05,686 --> 00:03:06,426 Yeah. 52 00:03:06,516 --> 00:03:08,272 He walks through and then we sit on it, 53 00:03:08,355 --> 00:03:09,095 and then we cut. 54 00:03:09,185 --> 00:03:10,440 It's like Apocalypse Now. 55 00:03:10,524 --> 00:03:13,110 It adds a little menace. 56 00:03:13,193 --> 00:03:14,528 It also gives some backstory. 57 00:03:14,611 --> 00:03:16,363 Remember when Threepio's head gets blasted, 58 00:03:16,446 --> 00:03:19,074 and they all walk by, in Empire, 59 00:03:19,157 --> 00:03:22,286 and they pan over to it, and they don't see it? 60 00:03:22,369 --> 00:03:25,080 No, I don't remember that. It's a deep cut for me. 61 00:03:29,710 --> 00:03:33,088 I started in traditional 2D animation, all hand-drawn. 62 00:03:33,172 --> 00:03:36,133 I used to have hundreds of drawings on the floor of my office 63 00:03:36,216 --> 00:03:37,968 that were not the good ones. 64 00:03:38,051 --> 00:03:40,804 My first job was King of the Hill, actually. 65 00:03:40,888 --> 00:03:43,390 Drawing a bunch of Texans drinking beer on a fence, 66 00:03:43,473 --> 00:03:45,392 which isn't what I went to art school for. 67 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,478 It's harder to draw them than people think. 68 00:03:49,938 --> 00:03:53,358 I worked for Disney in the TV division, and then I worked on Airbender. 69 00:03:53,442 --> 00:03:55,861 The Last Airbender at Nickelodeon was a super fun show, 70 00:03:55,944 --> 00:03:58,030 'cause very anime, and I love anime and action. 71 00:03:58,113 --> 00:04:00,574 And then George with Clone Wars. 72 00:04:00,657 --> 00:04:04,995 And that was really the big change for me because I'd never done CG before. 73 00:04:05,078 --> 00:04:07,623 When I got there, he said, "We're not gonna do storyboards. 74 00:04:07,706 --> 00:04:09,249 "We're not gonna draw anything". 75 00:04:09,333 --> 00:04:11,877 I'm like, "Okay, but that's what I do". 76 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,297 So the one skill I had was rendered largely useless. 77 00:04:15,380 --> 00:04:18,717 But it wasn't really, because it's still in all the language 78 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:20,886 of making, you know, a film. 79 00:04:20,969 --> 00:04:23,680 I still sketch all the time, even today for this stuff. 80 00:04:23,764 --> 00:04:27,226 But George taught me to think more in terms of a camera and blocking 81 00:04:27,309 --> 00:04:31,146 and how to set up cameras for a whole shoot and staging. 82 00:04:31,897 --> 00:04:35,526 So this language was kind of built in me slowly over ten years, 83 00:04:35,609 --> 00:04:37,903 and George always talks in terms of live-action. 84 00:04:37,986 --> 00:04:42,074 And so he really got me interested in, well, maybe it's something I'd like to do. 85 00:04:42,157 --> 00:04:44,243 That's an interesting story of how you guys met, 86 00:04:44,326 --> 00:04:45,994 or how you got the job, I should say. 87 00:04:46,078 --> 00:04:48,997 Oh, yeah, I got the job as almost a...I almost didn't get the job, 88 00:04:49,081 --> 00:04:51,166 because I thought it was a practical joke. 89 00:04:51,250 --> 00:04:54,545 I was working at Nickelodeon, and somebody called from Lucasfilm Animation, 90 00:04:54,628 --> 00:04:56,588 and I'm like, "There is no Lucasfilm Animation". 91 00:04:56,672 --> 00:04:59,091 I thought I'd been excited about Revenge of the Sith 92 00:04:59,174 --> 00:05:00,884 coming out and talked about it a lot, 93 00:05:00,968 --> 00:05:02,719 that the guys from SpongeBob were just 94 00:05:02,803 --> 00:05:06,807 busting my chops over Star Wars. I thought it was a prank call. 95 00:05:06,890 --> 00:05:11,395 It was this producer who I'd never heard of from "Lucasfilm Animation", 96 00:05:11,478 --> 00:05:13,564 and they're doing the "Clone Wars", and I go, yeah. 97 00:05:13,647 --> 00:05:15,524 And I'm being like, all... 98 00:05:15,607 --> 00:05:18,986 You get so tired of being picked on. 99 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,574 And you're just like, "This is the SpongeBob guys. I know it is". 100 00:05:23,657 --> 00:05:25,284 I'm like, "Oh, you're making..." 101 00:05:25,367 --> 00:05:26,539 "Uh, yeah, we're doing a..." 102 00:05:26,629 --> 00:05:27,369 Yeah. 103 00:05:27,452 --> 00:05:29,705 And I said, "Oh, so you're making Clone Wars". 104 00:05:29,788 --> 00:05:31,665 "But you already did that, right?" 105 00:05:31,748 --> 00:05:32,490 I'm talking like that. 106 00:05:33,255 --> 00:05:34,001 You're just talking... 107 00:05:34,084 --> 00:05:35,586 And getting to Clone Wars. 108 00:05:35,669 --> 00:05:37,963 She said, "Well, this is gonna be a computer animation, 109 00:05:38,046 --> 00:05:39,840 "you know, and a whole new series". 110 00:05:39,923 --> 00:05:42,342 And I'm like, "I don't do computer animation". 111 00:05:42,426 --> 00:05:45,095 She's like, "You've been recommended to us by George". 112 00:05:45,179 --> 00:05:47,973 I'm like, "Really? George recommended me, huh?" 113 00:05:48,056 --> 00:05:49,354 And this is the way I'm talking. 114 00:05:49,444 --> 00:05:50,184 Oh, yeah? 115 00:05:51,143 --> 00:05:52,231 She goes, "I'd love..." 116 00:05:52,321 --> 00:05:53,061 He's got confidence. 117 00:05:53,145 --> 00:05:55,022 "I would love to meet with you". 118 00:05:55,105 --> 00:05:57,566 And I'm like, "Oh, I would love to meet with you". 119 00:05:57,649 --> 00:05:58,390 So mysterious. 120 00:05:58,481 --> 00:06:00,360 And so this whole thing... 121 00:06:00,444 --> 00:06:03,822 And then, it's dawning on me, the way she's talking... 122 00:06:03,906 --> 00:06:05,991 But I was like, "No, I don't want to buy into this. 123 00:06:06,074 --> 00:06:07,409 "I always buy, I'm so naive". 124 00:06:07,492 --> 00:06:08,577 And I said, "Look..." 125 00:06:09,119 --> 00:06:12,122 She's about to hang up, 'cause we made the appointment. 126 00:06:12,206 --> 00:06:14,249 I said, "I got to ask, who put you up to this?" 127 00:06:14,333 --> 00:06:16,585 She's like, "Excuse me?" I'm like, "Who made you do it? 128 00:06:16,668 --> 00:06:19,546 "Is this the guys from SpongeBob? Is this Vince? Who is this?" 129 00:06:19,630 --> 00:06:22,216 And she's like, "Is this Dave Filoni?" And I'm like, "Yeah". 130 00:06:22,299 --> 00:06:24,426 She said, "You work on The Last Airbender?" 131 00:06:24,510 --> 00:06:27,262 I said, "Well, yeah". She says, "Well, you're the guy". 132 00:06:27,346 --> 00:06:30,641 Then I realized, it just clicked. I'm like, "Oh, my God". 133 00:06:30,724 --> 00:06:32,226 This is literally what I said. 134 00:06:32,309 --> 00:06:34,269 You have no idea how the guy I am. 135 00:06:34,353 --> 00:06:35,896 I am so the guy. 136 00:06:35,979 --> 00:06:37,523 I was like... 137 00:06:37,606 --> 00:06:41,068 "I have a Jedi costume I'm making in my garage right now". 138 00:06:41,151 --> 00:06:44,404 And she later told me she wanted to hang up right then and there, 139 00:06:44,488 --> 00:06:47,366 but she'd already made the appointment, so she kept it. 140 00:06:47,449 --> 00:06:50,744 And then, I had to go through two rounds of meeting people 141 00:06:50,827 --> 00:06:52,454 and then meet George. 142 00:06:52,538 --> 00:06:55,207 And when I met him, I had to go up to the main house, 143 00:06:55,290 --> 00:06:58,835 and I had to sit there and, you know, at a table. 144 00:06:58,919 --> 00:07:00,254 You know, he's got my portfolio, 145 00:07:00,337 --> 00:07:02,631 my little art portfolio of animation things I've done. 146 00:07:02,714 --> 00:07:04,091 He's going through it like this. 147 00:07:04,174 --> 00:07:08,053 And I'm just sitting there like, "Yeah, I'm not getting this, 148 00:07:08,136 --> 00:07:11,390 "'cause he sees the best in the business, right?" 149 00:07:11,473 --> 00:07:12,891 And all I can really think is... 150 00:07:12,975 --> 00:07:14,476 You said, "That's from The Natural". 151 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:15,561 Right, right? 152 00:07:15,644 --> 00:07:17,020 All I could really think, though, 153 00:07:17,104 --> 00:07:23,026 "When I'm in line for Revenge of the Sith, I can outclass any nerd there". 154 00:07:23,110 --> 00:07:24,206 "I got the best story ever". 155 00:07:24,266 --> 00:07:26,905 Because I've been in a room with George Lucas. 156 00:07:26,989 --> 00:07:30,158 My cred for my opinion has just shot up. 157 00:07:30,242 --> 00:07:33,787 And then he closes my portfolio and he looks at me, and he says, 158 00:07:33,871 --> 00:07:36,832 "Well, a Jedi would do this". 159 00:07:36,915 --> 00:07:39,042 And he starts on this elaborate description of 160 00:07:39,126 --> 00:07:43,630 how a Jedi would handle a negotiation more like a Samurai. 161 00:07:43,714 --> 00:07:46,839 More like, almost like a mafia, putting their lightsaber on the table, saying, 162 00:07:46,929 --> 00:07:50,429 "It's how we'll do business. If you don't listen to me, this is kind of..." 163 00:07:50,512 --> 00:07:55,800 It's very much in the Toshiro Mifune mindset of, 164 00:07:55,890 --> 00:07:56,768 "Here's the sword, boom. We're gonna negotiate now on my terms". 165 00:07:56,852 --> 00:07:59,479 And he's talking about...everything he was saying, 166 00:07:59,563 --> 00:08:04,067 it was like getting incredible validation for all the arguments I have with friends. 167 00:08:04,151 --> 00:08:09,281 'Cause I was like, "This...", I was like, "I really got what you were saying". 168 00:08:09,364 --> 00:08:12,159 But you don't say anything. You just listen. 169 00:08:12,242 --> 00:08:15,829 And I listen to him and listen to him, and it was about ten minutes. 170 00:08:15,913 --> 00:08:18,207 Then the producer said, "That's it. Your time's up". 171 00:08:18,290 --> 00:08:20,918 And he says, "Okay". And then I stood up, and I was like, 172 00:08:21,001 --> 00:08:23,545 "Well, I'm never gonna see this guy again". 173 00:08:23,629 --> 00:08:25,547 I said, "Nice to meet you". I shook his hand. 174 00:08:25,631 --> 00:08:27,716 He said, "Very nice to meet you". And I left. 175 00:08:27,799 --> 00:08:29,676 I went to the green room next to his office, 176 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:33,013 and I was like, "Whew, that's awesome. This was a great experience". 177 00:08:33,096 --> 00:08:35,474 'Cause he was cool, he was super knowledgeable. 178 00:08:35,557 --> 00:08:39,436 He was everything that you thought the guy who created Star Wars was. 179 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:40,521 Great experience. 180 00:08:40,604 --> 00:08:42,523 And then the producer opens the door and says, 181 00:08:42,606 --> 00:08:45,067 "He likes you. You got the job". And she shut the door. 182 00:08:45,150 --> 00:08:47,194 It was just like... 183 00:08:53,992 --> 00:08:55,911 Really, for me, I felt with the pilot, 184 00:08:55,994 --> 00:09:00,791 my job was to show this guy as he is, as he has been: 185 00:09:00,874 --> 00:09:03,919 A hardened, kind of weather-beaten person 186 00:09:04,002 --> 00:09:07,172 that has been through things we can't imagine 187 00:09:07,256 --> 00:09:09,758 and is just doing a job. 188 00:09:09,842 --> 00:09:13,679 And his job is hunting down beings and turning them in. 189 00:09:13,762 --> 00:09:17,266 The consequences of that, the morality of it, "I get paid". 190 00:09:17,891 --> 00:09:23,021 And then everything's gonna shift right at the end, you know, and it's that pull 191 00:09:23,105 --> 00:09:26,441 between greed and being more selfless, 192 00:09:26,525 --> 00:09:29,278 which is fundamental to the human experience. 193 00:09:29,361 --> 00:09:31,488 And for Mando now, he's made choices, 194 00:09:31,572 --> 00:09:34,616 and how is he going to improve himself. 195 00:09:34,700 --> 00:09:39,371 You are Mandalorian. Surely you can ride this young foal. 196 00:09:42,499 --> 00:09:44,626 Dave Filoni, great collaborator, 197 00:09:44,710 --> 00:09:47,504 great animator, Director, storyteller, writer. 198 00:09:47,588 --> 00:09:52,134 But also, he has a strong intuition about what George would say. 199 00:09:52,217 --> 00:09:56,346 He's an encyclopedia of all of the Star Wars lore. 200 00:09:56,430 --> 00:09:59,224 You can ask him anything. "Hey, what about this shoulder pad?" 201 00:09:59,308 --> 00:10:00,309 Dave Filoni will say, 202 00:10:00,392 --> 00:10:03,478 Well, that's not actually what it looks like, 203 00:10:03,562 --> 00:10:07,357 but let me tell you why and let me tell you the history of why. 204 00:10:07,441 --> 00:10:11,820 There's a purity to his relationship to Star Wars in general, 205 00:10:11,904 --> 00:10:14,907 that it's just like...it's really obvious. 206 00:10:14,990 --> 00:10:16,783 There's no Dave Filoni ego. 207 00:10:16,867 --> 00:10:20,537 It's just always all about Star Wars and George 208 00:10:20,621 --> 00:10:23,123 and the stuff that's important. 209 00:10:24,208 --> 00:10:25,709 We wouldn't be able to do this 210 00:10:25,792 --> 00:10:27,586 without Dave Filoni. 211 00:10:28,170 --> 00:10:34,051 He is the truest lover of the material. 212 00:10:34,134 --> 00:10:35,552 He's so well-informed, 213 00:10:35,636 --> 00:10:38,388 and knows exactly what would fit, what would make sense. 214 00:10:38,639 --> 00:10:42,142 I think he, more than anyone, just sort of innately knows 215 00:10:42,226 --> 00:10:44,394 what's right and what's wrong for Star Wars. 216 00:10:59,493 --> 00:11:00,661 Okay, cut. 217 00:11:05,457 --> 00:11:07,751 When you hit our set, 218 00:11:07,834 --> 00:11:11,213 you were in a different zone that I'm not used to seeing, 219 00:11:11,296 --> 00:11:13,423 because I'm coming out of... 220 00:11:13,507 --> 00:11:17,010 Even when working fast on an indie, you're shooting, 221 00:11:17,094 --> 00:11:20,305 maybe you're doing eight pages, you're like a hero. 222 00:11:20,389 --> 00:11:23,100 You would go in there and have your game plan. 223 00:11:23,183 --> 00:11:25,936 Also you love, what I also love about you is you love action. 224 00:11:26,019 --> 00:11:27,271 - I do. - It's in your bones. 225 00:11:27,354 --> 00:11:29,690 You're like, "Could I have a few more Stormtroopers?" 226 00:11:29,773 --> 00:11:31,316 I really liked killing Stormtroopers. 227 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,194 And I was always like, "Take 'em". 228 00:11:34,278 --> 00:11:36,363 Yeah, I mean, I loved all that stuff. 229 00:11:36,446 --> 00:11:39,867 I'm a total...I love genre, so I came out of sci-fi and fantasy 230 00:11:39,950 --> 00:11:42,035 like books, comics and video games. 231 00:11:42,119 --> 00:11:43,871 So as soon as I could, you know... 232 00:11:43,954 --> 00:11:46,915 'Cause I've been mostly doing television for the last while. 233 00:11:47,291 --> 00:11:50,873 As soon as I was able to, I started choosing shows that I actually wanted to see. 234 00:11:51,053 --> 00:11:52,087 Yeah, you do a lot of cool TV. 235 00:11:52,171 --> 00:11:54,214 Yeah, I started... 236 00:11:54,298 --> 00:11:56,800 Probably the first big one I got was Mr.Robot. 237 00:11:56,884 --> 00:12:00,512 At the time, we didn't know what it was. It wasn't a big show. 238 00:12:00,596 --> 00:12:03,473 So I just ended up sort of going by taste of 239 00:12:03,557 --> 00:12:06,518 would I actually want to watch this, and what am I into? 240 00:12:06,602 --> 00:12:11,356 Which sort of turned out to be sort of zombies and robots and aliens basically. 241 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,443 That sort of ended up leading to bigger and bigger shows, 242 00:12:14,526 --> 00:12:16,528 just because of the nature of the genre. 243 00:12:17,196 --> 00:12:19,656 But I think the difference with television is that 244 00:12:19,740 --> 00:12:23,285 you're coming in to try to do something really ambitious, really quickly. 245 00:12:23,368 --> 00:12:25,746 The only way to kind of do that is to prep it 246 00:12:25,829 --> 00:12:27,915 as much as you can and come in planned. 247 00:12:27,998 --> 00:12:29,374 But it's still really hard. 248 00:12:36,006 --> 00:12:37,966 Just imagine...just overlap that 249 00:12:38,050 --> 00:12:40,802 and then come down to it so you don't start already on it, okay? 250 00:12:40,886 --> 00:12:41,887 Oh, copy that. 251 00:12:43,096 --> 00:12:48,060 Deborah Chow was extremely efficient, and she liked to shoot, 252 00:12:48,143 --> 00:12:51,522 and if you've got this many hours, then she's gonna use that many hours, 253 00:12:51,605 --> 00:12:53,398 and you guys are all gonna work for it. 254 00:13:00,781 --> 00:13:02,866 As a Director, the main thing I'm trying to do 255 00:13:02,950 --> 00:13:05,369 with every scene I'm directing is just find some life. 256 00:13:06,036 --> 00:13:08,914 It doesn't matter if an actor changes something and it's better, 257 00:13:08,997 --> 00:13:10,832 or they want to change the blocking. 258 00:13:10,916 --> 00:13:12,626 Even if I can't get a certain angle, 259 00:13:12,709 --> 00:13:16,713 I'd rather have something that feels real and genuine and something alive about it. 260 00:13:16,797 --> 00:13:19,800 And so I think it's very important that you not squish that 261 00:13:19,883 --> 00:13:23,053 and that you let that breathe and you let there be an opportunity 262 00:13:23,136 --> 00:13:25,305 to just have something happen. 263 00:13:28,433 --> 00:13:31,770 I think with Star Wars, especially with it being the first television show, 264 00:13:31,854 --> 00:13:33,772 you really want to do it justice. 265 00:13:33,856 --> 00:13:36,775 So you do feel a responsibility, but I think it's more making sure 266 00:13:36,859 --> 00:13:39,820 that everything sort of feels right to the world. 267 00:13:41,613 --> 00:13:42,948 I'm in. 268 00:13:48,662 --> 00:13:50,747 What line do you want me to take in here? 269 00:13:52,624 --> 00:13:53,296 It's, uh, "I got it". 270 00:13:53,386 --> 00:13:54,126 What? No. 271 00:13:54,209 --> 00:13:54,949 "I have it". 272 00:13:55,012 --> 00:13:55,752 "I have it"? 273 00:13:55,836 --> 00:13:56,962 - No, no, no. - Your line. 274 00:13:57,045 --> 00:13:57,785 My walking line. 275 00:13:57,875 --> 00:13:59,673 You're walking here. You're walking. 276 00:14:00,924 --> 00:14:02,718 I was like, "You don't know..." 277 00:14:02,801 --> 00:14:03,802 - But yeah. - Keep walking. 278 00:14:03,886 --> 00:14:05,679 It's like two lines, you don't get it? 279 00:14:05,762 --> 00:14:06,502 It's just straight. 280 00:14:07,108 --> 00:14:07,848 Oh, I'm going to her. 281 00:14:07,931 --> 00:14:10,851 Yeah, you're going...I think for the first one, 282 00:14:10,934 --> 00:14:13,604 'cause we're not on you. We're pretty much on her, 283 00:14:13,687 --> 00:14:16,190 so you don't even have to come all this way back 284 00:14:16,273 --> 00:14:18,108 unless it's just for the field. 285 00:14:18,192 --> 00:14:19,818 Oh, I'm not keeping this? 286 00:14:19,902 --> 00:14:22,154 You'll have it, but in our two-shot. 287 00:14:22,237 --> 00:14:24,323 You're gonna walk into a profile two. 288 00:14:28,702 --> 00:14:29,786 Mando! 289 00:14:32,122 --> 00:14:33,290 I have it. 290 00:14:34,166 --> 00:14:35,250 I've got the egg. 291 00:14:41,965 --> 00:14:46,345 I love making these stories about misfits and folks 292 00:14:46,428 --> 00:14:50,182 that don't actually ever get cameras pointed at 'em, 293 00:14:50,265 --> 00:14:55,437 so for me, like, the Jawa stuff and just seeing this monster, you know, 294 00:14:55,521 --> 00:14:59,358 sandcrawler tread in the middle of the volume was like, 295 00:14:59,441 --> 00:15:03,028 I'm actually in Star Wars in this moment, 'cause, you know, 296 00:15:03,904 --> 00:15:07,157 I'm standing underneath the Sandcrawler. 297 00:15:07,241 --> 00:15:10,077 And you look at the volume and you go underneath it, 298 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,663 and it's like you're really looking up at the Sandcrawler. 299 00:15:16,846 --> 00:15:18,168 And that was, for me, 300 00:15:18,252 --> 00:15:22,047 one of the most rewarding and crazy experiences 301 00:15:22,130 --> 00:15:26,051 of someone who just loves Star Wars. It's like, this is the scale. 302 00:15:26,134 --> 00:15:30,305 I can actually feel what the scale of this thing really was. 303 00:15:30,389 --> 00:15:32,432 And even though you play with it, 304 00:15:32,516 --> 00:15:35,936 and you know that this is what it is in relation to your figures, 305 00:15:36,019 --> 00:15:37,145 to be in it was pretty... 306 00:15:37,229 --> 00:15:39,857 You had to talk to the Jawas. You had a lot of Jawas. 307 00:15:39,940 --> 00:15:41,404 Yeah, I had a lot of... 308 00:15:41,494 --> 00:15:42,234 Lot of Jawa work. 309 00:15:42,317 --> 00:15:44,486 They were the only things that were alive... 310 00:15:47,573 --> 00:15:50,158 ...that I could deal with, yeah. 311 00:15:50,784 --> 00:15:53,120 I was like, "People I can talk to". 312 00:15:55,747 --> 00:15:56,999 Thank you. 313 00:15:57,082 --> 00:16:03,172 And then on 6, it was just great to, again, have people. 314 00:16:03,254 --> 00:16:06,132 Well, that was the opposite. That was only people. 315 00:16:06,215 --> 00:16:06,956 Exactly. 316 00:16:07,046 --> 00:16:08,176 And that's one that you wrote on. 317 00:16:08,259 --> 00:16:10,094 That was cool, 'cause that was your voice. 318 00:16:10,178 --> 00:16:10,918 Yeah, exactly. 319 00:16:11,008 --> 00:16:12,054 I like that one a lot. 320 00:16:12,138 --> 00:16:12,880 Yeah, so that was... 321 00:16:12,970 --> 00:16:17,643 That's where you start to realize that we had different voices and different filmmakers, you know? 322 00:16:17,727 --> 00:16:21,397 I was reaching out to Disney, they were like, "That one's kinda weird". 323 00:16:22,690 --> 00:16:23,430 I was like, "Yeah!" 324 00:16:24,886 --> 00:16:25,526 In the best way. 325 00:16:25,610 --> 00:16:28,529 Each one's like a little mini-movie, that was the heist movie. 326 00:16:28,613 --> 00:16:30,656 I liked that. We stuck to those rules, 327 00:16:30,740 --> 00:16:31,995 and we talked about that a lot. 328 00:16:32,085 --> 00:16:32,825 Exactly. 329 00:16:32,909 --> 00:16:34,869 I think it works good, and it shows that Mando 330 00:16:34,952 --> 00:16:36,621 doesn't wanna go with his old crowd. 331 00:16:37,330 --> 00:16:39,916 Just like the good old days, Mando. 332 00:16:41,334 --> 00:16:45,755 You're here, this thing is shut. You're here at the step. 333 00:16:45,838 --> 00:16:48,508 And by the time you get here, that's already done. 334 00:16:51,719 --> 00:16:56,390 I hadn't done much television. Most of what I've done has been in feature films. 335 00:16:56,474 --> 00:17:01,861 Whatever concerns I might have had about working in TV were dispelled by Jon, I think, 336 00:17:01,951 --> 00:17:05,566 in the way that he was thinking about what this is. 337 00:17:08,778 --> 00:17:13,241 We're making a series that's connected, but we're all each been given 338 00:17:13,324 --> 00:17:18,454 the freedom and the creativity to tell a story as we would 339 00:17:18,538 --> 00:17:19,914 making a feature film. 340 00:17:20,706 --> 00:17:23,334 Get that blaster out of my face, Mando! 341 00:17:23,417 --> 00:17:26,587 It's kinda like, "Okay, whoa, oh, okay. All right". 342 00:17:28,631 --> 00:17:29,632 - Cut. - Cut. 343 00:17:29,715 --> 00:17:30,716 A job is a job. 344 00:17:47,233 --> 00:17:53,781 I'm certainly squarely in that generation that Star Wars was a big part of my life 345 00:17:53,865 --> 00:17:59,954 and just a big part of who I am creatively and what inspired my imagination, 346 00:18:00,037 --> 00:18:05,084 and Star Wars was the first film I saw in a theater. 347 00:18:05,167 --> 00:18:08,004 I was once a Jedi Knight, the same as your father. 348 00:18:09,630 --> 00:18:11,841 My dad took me to see it. 349 00:18:11,966 --> 00:18:16,345 I remember waiting in the long line, having no idea what this was, 350 00:18:16,429 --> 00:18:19,765 and seeing the film and being completely blown away. 351 00:18:21,767 --> 00:18:22,810 Ha-ha! 352 00:18:32,403 --> 00:18:35,239 It's been, for me, one of those things that's... 353 00:18:35,323 --> 00:18:39,327 I think the way I've seen film, the way I've seen storytelling 354 00:18:39,410 --> 00:18:43,289 has been shaped by that first experience seeing the film. 355 00:18:45,499 --> 00:18:49,587 And to be here is a pretty phenomenal thing. 356 00:19:06,562 --> 00:19:10,775 That's my favorite moment. Right there. 357 00:19:10,858 --> 00:19:12,864 See, that's the moment. Like, it's... 358 00:19:12,954 --> 00:19:13,694 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 359 00:19:13,778 --> 00:19:15,158 You can spot it a mile away. 360 00:19:15,248 --> 00:19:15,988 Yeah. 361 00:19:16,531 --> 00:19:20,804 Very early on, my dad would just take me everywhere 'cause it was like, 362 00:19:20,897 --> 00:19:23,162 I won't leave one more kid at home with my wife. 363 00:19:23,246 --> 00:19:26,541 "Like, this is ridiculous". And so he had a business trip to Japan, 364 00:19:26,624 --> 00:19:30,461 and he just took me. And I was 5 or 6 years old. 365 00:19:30,545 --> 00:19:33,965 And in Japan, he had a dinner with George Lucas and Kurosawa, 366 00:19:34,048 --> 00:19:35,049 and I was there. 367 00:19:35,132 --> 00:19:35,875 Oh, my goodness! 368 00:19:35,965 --> 00:19:37,260 I fell asleep during it. 369 00:19:37,343 --> 00:19:41,138 I was really jet-lagged. But, you know, I remember those... 370 00:19:41,222 --> 00:19:44,183 but it's in there. It's in your brain, it's in your brain. 371 00:19:44,267 --> 00:19:47,520 But I remember those, I have those memories of, like, you know, 372 00:19:47,603 --> 00:19:51,858 my head resting on his chest and hearing his voice, 373 00:19:51,941 --> 00:19:54,944 and then hearing everyone else's voices, it's just kind of... 374 00:19:55,027 --> 00:19:55,767 Yeah. 375 00:19:55,857 --> 00:19:58,322 ...staying. And also 'cause I really... 376 00:19:58,406 --> 00:20:02,660 when I saw Jurassic Park for the first time, 377 00:20:02,743 --> 00:20:05,496 I was 12 years old. I said, Oh, my God, this is possible now, 378 00:20:05,580 --> 00:20:10,877 our entire lives have changed as storytellers, what we can do. 379 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,296 Getting the opportunity to work on something like this 380 00:20:13,379 --> 00:20:19,886 has just been so amazing, just awe-inspiring. 381 00:20:19,969 --> 00:20:23,014 By the way, now that you're done, and you did a great job, 382 00:20:23,097 --> 00:20:25,183 we threw you in the deep end of the pool, 383 00:20:25,266 --> 00:20:28,186 because that was such a difficult episode to do, 384 00:20:28,269 --> 00:20:29,010 and we were like, 385 00:20:29,100 --> 00:20:33,608 We gotta pick the new person who's never done this before 'cause they won't know how. 386 00:20:33,691 --> 00:20:34,438 So she won't freak out. 387 00:20:34,528 --> 00:20:39,155 She won't know how hard it is, what we're asking her to do, because we were, 388 00:20:39,238 --> 00:20:45,119 with the forest and water and big mech shooting and background extras. 389 00:20:45,203 --> 00:20:47,948 And it was too much, it was too much. 390 00:20:48,038 --> 00:20:48,873 I did it with zero support. 391 00:20:50,708 --> 00:20:55,880 No, it was incredible. And the truth is, is that so much of this process 392 00:20:55,963 --> 00:20:59,842 is about iterating and reiterating, and figuring it out, and problem-solving, 393 00:20:59,926 --> 00:21:02,970 and making breakthroughs. 394 00:21:03,054 --> 00:21:06,349 I think it goes back to this thing of, like, when I watched Jurassic Park, 395 00:21:06,432 --> 00:21:09,519 it just...oh, my God, I will get emotional, 396 00:21:09,602 --> 00:21:11,687 but the power of storytelling is immense, 397 00:21:11,771 --> 00:21:16,025 but if the magic act doesn't work then everything fails. 398 00:21:30,915 --> 00:21:32,833 It's so satisfying. 399 00:21:34,544 --> 00:21:38,798 Bryce's episode was a really unusual departure from all the other episodes, 400 00:21:38,881 --> 00:21:43,928 because it was on an agrarian-type planet, very green, very forested. 401 00:21:44,011 --> 00:21:47,557 And Bryce's emotional appreciation of the drama 402 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,310 and how to work with the actors was extraordinary to work with. 403 00:21:51,394 --> 00:21:53,145 She was really a lovely Director. 404 00:21:56,983 --> 00:21:58,526 We were peacekeepers, 405 00:21:58,609 --> 00:22:01,779 protecting delegates, suppressing riots. Not what I signed up for. 406 00:22:02,613 --> 00:22:04,490 How'd you end up here? 407 00:22:05,032 --> 00:22:07,660 Let's just call it an early retirement. 408 00:22:07,743 --> 00:22:11,539 She really, really focuses on the performances. 409 00:22:11,622 --> 00:22:13,291 And she's fierce, 410 00:22:13,374 --> 00:22:16,669 like, she's not going to take no for an answer. 411 00:22:16,752 --> 00:22:21,382 Pause. You're looking around, just so that we can get that, you know, make sense? 412 00:22:21,465 --> 00:22:23,467 Then you pull out your blaster, 413 00:22:23,551 --> 00:22:26,971 then you look at Cara, Cara's looking at you. And then we go in. 414 00:22:27,054 --> 00:22:30,474 For me, I'm an actor who's worked in a lot of movies 415 00:22:30,558 --> 00:22:33,728 with a lot of visual effects and special effects. 416 00:22:33,811 --> 00:22:37,315 So, maybe, I'm there to support the actors with 417 00:22:37,398 --> 00:22:41,861 that experience to make it feel really honest and real and bring it back 418 00:22:41,944 --> 00:22:45,865 to the characters and the dialogue and the scene work, and to just 419 00:22:45,948 --> 00:22:47,783 make every single scene like a play. 420 00:22:47,867 --> 00:22:51,412 You know, like a play that just exists outside of Star Wars. 421 00:22:52,079 --> 00:22:53,080 I know. I know. 422 00:22:53,164 --> 00:22:55,583 We would never have to cut around performance. 423 00:22:55,666 --> 00:22:56,577 Because I knew...I was like, 424 00:22:56,667 --> 00:23:01,115 if I can just make sure that in every single set-up, that I am, like, 425 00:23:01,205 --> 00:23:04,675 Oh, my gosh, if we just had to live here the entire scene, it would be okay. 426 00:23:16,062 --> 00:23:19,106 There's a real responsibility 427 00:23:19,190 --> 00:23:23,110 working with these kinds of characters and these kinds of stories 428 00:23:23,194 --> 00:23:30,868 and circumstances and all of that because it is meaningful to so many people. 429 00:23:33,079 --> 00:23:34,288 Slow down a little bit. 430 00:23:34,372 --> 00:23:36,791 This is not about my relationship with Star Wars. 431 00:23:36,874 --> 00:23:39,585 This is about all of our relationships with Star Wars. 432 00:23:39,669 --> 00:23:42,547 Hopefully, when folks watch The Mandalorian, 433 00:23:42,630 --> 00:23:49,428 they'd feel our commitment to Star Wars, to the incredible story that this is. 434 00:23:50,513 --> 00:23:51,514 We'll be ready. 435 00:24:26,507 --> 00:24:29,927 I didn't start directing anything film-wise 436 00:24:30,011 --> 00:24:31,345 till I was around about 30. 437 00:24:31,429 --> 00:24:37,560 So, I started before that in stand-up, and comedy and theater, 438 00:24:37,643 --> 00:24:40,146 and writing and directing. So Jemaine and I would 439 00:24:40,229 --> 00:24:43,482 write and direct each other in things, 'cause no one would hire us 440 00:24:43,566 --> 00:24:46,861 for any, like, "real" plays. And so, we're not like that, 441 00:24:46,944 --> 00:24:50,072 "I want to be in this, like, fancy play and this, like, cool theater". 442 00:24:50,156 --> 00:24:50,900 And they're like, "No". 443 00:24:50,989 --> 00:24:55,703 So then we'd just go off and write our own stuff, and that's how I learned how to... 444 00:24:55,786 --> 00:24:58,497 how to write and how to direct, and we'd have to make 445 00:24:58,581 --> 00:25:03,461 all our own props and all our own costumes, and we'd be onstage 446 00:25:03,544 --> 00:25:05,963 trying to make fishing lines and stuff. 447 00:25:07,715 --> 00:25:11,302 But it's summer end, and way back before...my background's painting, 448 00:25:11,385 --> 00:25:16,307 so I was already used to composition 449 00:25:16,390 --> 00:25:17,808 and art and all that stuff. 450 00:25:17,892 --> 00:25:21,062 But again...I didn't really... 451 00:25:21,145 --> 00:25:26,025 I got so disheartened and disenchanted 452 00:25:26,108 --> 00:25:29,529 by the whole gallery thing and art and the art world in general, 453 00:25:29,612 --> 00:25:31,531 but then, through film, found a medium 454 00:25:31,614 --> 00:25:34,033 with which to address everything that I was into. 455 00:25:34,116 --> 00:25:38,329 So music and art and performance and writing and storytelling, 456 00:25:38,412 --> 00:25:40,414 which was actually ultimately the thing. 457 00:25:41,082 --> 00:25:44,293 But all of my first three films were super low-budget 458 00:25:44,377 --> 00:25:47,505 and just talking about recycling things, 459 00:25:47,588 --> 00:25:51,592 in What We Do in the Shadows, we said to Weta Workshop, I said to Rich 460 00:25:51,676 --> 00:25:56,138 and one of those guys, "Is there anything you rejected from Lord of the Rings? 461 00:25:56,222 --> 00:25:58,766 "Like creatures you thought you might want to use, 462 00:25:58,850 --> 00:26:01,686 "and then just rejected them?" And they're like, 463 00:26:01,769 --> 00:26:05,231 "Yeah, there's actually pieces of crap that we don't want". 464 00:26:05,314 --> 00:26:07,775 So I'm like, "We'll take those". 465 00:26:07,859 --> 00:26:13,315 It was like old teeth and you know, some, like, 466 00:26:13,405 --> 00:26:16,909 old elf ears that had been thrown, discarded, and we're like, 467 00:26:16,993 --> 00:26:19,370 "We'll make it a cool vampire with pointy ears". 468 00:26:23,124 --> 00:26:27,003 Yeah, so I'm used to working like that, you know, just making do, 469 00:26:27,086 --> 00:26:27,889 and smoke and mirrors. 470 00:26:27,979 --> 00:26:30,173 But you got into visual effects too, 471 00:26:30,256 --> 00:26:33,134 because by the time you showed up, you were sort of the... 472 00:26:33,217 --> 00:26:36,596 experienced, you were sort of the ringer, 'cause you had done 473 00:26:36,679 --> 00:26:37,420 Thor Ragnarok. 474 00:26:37,510 --> 00:26:40,808 I'd done that, and a lot of the effects on What We Do in the Shadows as well. 475 00:26:40,892 --> 00:26:42,810 I'd done a lot of commercials... 476 00:26:42,894 --> 00:26:46,063 So over the years, I picked up jargon. 477 00:26:46,147 --> 00:26:47,523 And... 478 00:26:50,026 --> 00:26:54,618 I could trick the computer people into thinking I knew what I was talking about. 479 00:26:54,708 --> 00:26:55,448 What sort of... 480 00:26:56,449 --> 00:26:57,992 Well, I mean, 481 00:26:58,075 --> 00:27:00,203 I can't remember any of it now. 482 00:27:05,416 --> 00:27:06,417 Well... 483 00:27:10,296 --> 00:27:13,424 I found it very difficult hanging out with the other Directors. 484 00:27:13,508 --> 00:27:16,052 They're very arrogant. 485 00:27:16,135 --> 00:27:21,766 Bryce is...I wouldn't say I'm a hardcore fan. 486 00:27:23,643 --> 00:27:26,979 The whole production to be amateur. No one knew what they're doing. 487 00:27:27,063 --> 00:27:31,651 The quality of the filmmaking, the quality of the sets was just abysmal. 488 00:27:31,734 --> 00:27:34,153 I was quite frankly embarrassed to be involved. 489 00:27:42,078 --> 00:27:44,205 Out here, we got Mr.Taika Waititi, 490 00:27:44,288 --> 00:27:48,167 a wonderful action-comedy Director, so this is a treat. 491 00:27:50,711 --> 00:27:54,340 Taika's, of course, done Thor, so he brings that experience. 492 00:27:54,423 --> 00:27:57,134 You see the intensity in his mind and how he works. 493 00:27:59,095 --> 00:28:02,223 He's serious, thoughtful, yet also playful. 494 00:28:02,306 --> 00:28:04,350 He has an enthusiasm that's palpable. 495 00:28:04,433 --> 00:28:05,434 Well... 496 00:28:05,518 --> 00:28:10,982 he knew exactly what he wanted to shoot and had a sense of humor about it. 497 00:28:12,650 --> 00:28:14,694 Come on, baby! Do the magic hand thing. 498 00:28:14,777 --> 00:28:17,613 Taika knows how to find the humor in the action. 499 00:28:17,697 --> 00:28:20,867 That's different than making fun of action, we don't make fun of it. 500 00:28:21,617 --> 00:28:24,871 This whole series, though there's humorous moments, 501 00:28:24,954 --> 00:28:30,126 it's a serious story. And it fits perfectly within that Star Wars canon. 502 00:28:30,209 --> 00:28:34,630 It doesn't take itself 100% seriously, but it does believe in itself. 503 00:28:43,431 --> 00:28:48,853 I really loved this way of working with all of these Directors. 504 00:28:48,936 --> 00:28:54,400 And what also helped a lot was the presence of Jon and Dave around, 505 00:28:54,483 --> 00:29:00,072 basically just to keep me from veering out of the lane too far. 506 00:29:00,823 --> 00:29:03,201 It was a different experience to get to work 507 00:29:03,284 --> 00:29:06,454 with other Directors in creating a show. 508 00:29:06,537 --> 00:29:09,665 And we can also bounce ideas off each other, to say like, 509 00:29:09,749 --> 00:29:12,585 "What do you think of this?" or "Does this make sense?" 510 00:29:12,668 --> 00:29:16,255 And I just think the key is you hire good people. 511 00:29:16,339 --> 00:29:19,383 Get caught up in what their talents are. I mean, obviously, 512 00:29:19,467 --> 00:29:23,763 to have done the work that they've all done, they're all really talented. 513 00:29:23,846 --> 00:29:27,266 But the big difference is, what kind of person are you? 514 00:29:29,519 --> 00:29:31,229 We all get in a room, and I think, 515 00:29:31,312 --> 00:29:34,899 because this is so new to many of us, 516 00:29:34,982 --> 00:29:39,946 that we all get together on it, and it becomes a real team thing. 517 00:29:40,029 --> 00:29:43,574 Everybody's bringing their unique perspective to this, 518 00:29:43,658 --> 00:29:49,580 and I think that ultimately makes us stronger, makes this a better story. 519 00:29:49,664 --> 00:29:52,959 They all ask questions about the script, and Jon and I are like, 520 00:29:53,042 --> 00:29:56,796 "Ooh, we didn't see that". But then we're willing to fix it, 521 00:29:56,879 --> 00:29:58,548 and find new ways to do things. 522 00:29:58,631 --> 00:30:04,011 I don't know, it almost is like a Star Wars school. 523 00:30:08,516 --> 00:30:10,351 I like hiring smart people. 524 00:30:10,434 --> 00:30:13,479 To me, if you have smart people who are curious and creative, 525 00:30:13,563 --> 00:30:16,399 but if they're inspired and they're sharp, 526 00:30:16,482 --> 00:30:21,904 they'll be able to learn. And really, directing, what you're learning is 527 00:30:21,988 --> 00:30:24,615 you have to learn every day, because you're presented 528 00:30:24,699 --> 00:30:27,410 with a new set of circumstances, and you have to adapt. 529 00:30:27,493 --> 00:30:31,372 If you stick to the playbook, you're not gonna succeed. 530 00:30:31,455 --> 00:30:36,669 And that's what's different from writing or animation, 531 00:30:36,752 --> 00:30:41,090 where opportunities present themselves, but at a much lower rate. 532 00:30:41,174 --> 00:30:43,384 The opportunities are hitting you constantly, 533 00:30:43,467 --> 00:30:45,803 but they might seem like challenges. 534 00:30:45,887 --> 00:30:50,766 But really, somebody who's creative and who's smart will not be afraid to 535 00:30:50,850 --> 00:30:55,438 kind of jump out of the plane before the parachute comes out after you. 536 00:30:55,521 --> 00:30:59,567 And, so, everybody here are creatively brave. 537 00:30:59,650 --> 00:31:03,404 That's really the unifying thing, you all have various levels of experience, 538 00:31:03,487 --> 00:31:07,408 different backgrounds, different genres or media that you come from. 539 00:31:07,491 --> 00:31:11,037 But everybody, I think there is something. I think that's why 540 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,372 everybody kind of clicked so well together.