1 00:00:24,021 --> 00:00:27,021 - GARY: He opened up his garage and he saw his pregnant fiancée 2 00:00:27,021 --> 00:00:29,021 in a pool of blood. 3 00:00:29,021 --> 00:00:31,021 - MICHAEL: She was shot a total of four times. 4 00:00:31,021 --> 00:00:33,021 And we believe that she was stabbed and slashed. 5 00:00:33,021 --> 00:00:35,021 - JOHN: For that level of violence, 6 00:00:36,021 --> 00:00:39,021 this was obviously a crime of passion. 7 00:00:39,021 --> 00:00:41,021 - FRE-DREANA: I was at a loss for words, 8 00:00:41,021 --> 00:00:45,021 it was just like, "Is this real? Am I dreaming?" 9 00:00:45,021 --> 00:00:47,021 - NARRATOR: Five unique perspectives, 10 00:00:47,021 --> 00:00:51,021 five points of view, one murder. 11 00:00:51,021 --> 00:00:52,021 - FRE-DREANA: I'm the sister of Avis Banks. 12 00:00:52,021 --> 00:00:53,021 - JOHN: I was the lead investigator. 13 00:00:53,021 --> 00:00:54,021 - GARY: I serve as pastor. 14 00:00:54,021 --> 00:00:56,021 - MICHAEL: I was district attorney. 15 00:00:56,021 --> 00:00:57,021 - FRANK: I was the lead detective 16 00:00:57,021 --> 00:00:58,021 doing the Avis Banks murder. 17 00:01:05,021 --> 00:01:08,021 - ♪ 18 00:01:09,021 --> 00:01:10,021 - FRE-DREANA: My name is Fre-Dreana Banks 19 00:01:10,021 --> 00:01:12,021 and I'm the sister of Avis Banks. 20 00:01:13,021 --> 00:01:17,021 Avis grew up in Vicksburg, Mississippi. 21 00:01:17,021 --> 00:01:21,021 She always had a love for children, education. 22 00:01:21,021 --> 00:01:22,021 When I was young, we would play school, 23 00:01:22,021 --> 00:01:25,021 and she would always be the teacher. 24 00:01:25,021 --> 00:01:28,021 She would read to me. 25 00:01:28,021 --> 00:01:30,021 I knew she would eventually be a teacher. 26 00:01:32,021 --> 00:01:36,021 Avis was actually the first person in our immediate family 27 00:01:36,021 --> 00:01:39,021 to graduate from college. 28 00:01:40,021 --> 00:01:43,021 Avis seemed happy in her career. 29 00:01:43,021 --> 00:01:44,021 She would come home and talk about 30 00:01:44,021 --> 00:01:47,021 the babies in the daycare. 31 00:01:47,021 --> 00:01:48,021 She eventually did say she wanted to have 32 00:01:48,021 --> 00:01:51,021 two children of her own. 33 00:01:53,021 --> 00:01:56,021 Avis and Keyon met in Vicksburg. 34 00:01:56,021 --> 00:02:00,021 Her and I were at the gym working out 35 00:02:00,021 --> 00:02:01,021 and he approached her. 36 00:02:04,021 --> 00:02:07,021 And they had a conversation, 37 00:02:07,021 --> 00:02:09,021 and when he walked off, the first thing she asked me, 38 00:02:09,021 --> 00:02:11,021 she say, "What did you think?" 39 00:02:12,021 --> 00:02:16,021 and I was like, "Well, to be honest, 40 00:02:16,021 --> 00:02:18,021 "there's nobody out there that's gonna be 41 00:02:18,021 --> 00:02:20,021 good enough for my sister." 42 00:02:22,021 --> 00:02:26,021 Avis would talk about Keyon from time to time with me. 43 00:02:26,021 --> 00:02:29,021 She would say how kind he was. 44 00:02:30,021 --> 00:02:31,021 He would do different things for her. 45 00:02:33,021 --> 00:02:35,021 He was really sweet to her. 46 00:02:36,021 --> 00:02:41,021 They had similar careers. He was a teacher. 47 00:02:41,021 --> 00:02:43,021 It kind of brought them closer together. 48 00:02:45,021 --> 00:02:48,021 Avis and Keyon dated for somewhat a year 49 00:02:48,021 --> 00:02:50,021 before they decided to move to Ridgeland. 50 00:02:53,021 --> 00:02:56,021 Avis was excited. 51 00:02:56,021 --> 00:02:58,021 It was a little bit bigger than Vicksburg, 52 00:02:58,021 --> 00:03:00,021 a little more things to do, 53 00:03:00,021 --> 00:03:03,021 and it was also closer to her job. 54 00:03:03,021 --> 00:03:06,021 The home that Keyon and Avis bought was a three-bedroom, 55 00:03:06,021 --> 00:03:09,021 big enough for a family. 56 00:03:10,021 --> 00:03:13,021 By the time Keyon spoke to my dad 57 00:03:13,021 --> 00:03:16,021 about marrying my sister, Avis was already pregnant. 58 00:03:17,021 --> 00:03:23,021 Avis called me at about nine, ten o'clock one morning. 59 00:03:23,021 --> 00:03:24,021 "You need to sit down." 60 00:03:24,021 --> 00:03:26,021 And I was like, "What's wrong?" 61 00:03:26,021 --> 00:03:28,021 She said, "You're going to be an aunt." 62 00:03:30,021 --> 00:03:33,021 And I was overly excited. 63 00:03:33,021 --> 00:03:36,021 It would have been my first time ever, 64 00:03:36,021 --> 00:03:40,021 and we sat on the phone and we talked about names 65 00:03:40,021 --> 00:03:43,021 and if you wanted a boy or a girl, 66 00:03:43,021 --> 00:03:46,021 and it just so happened to be around my 21st birthday, 67 00:03:46,021 --> 00:03:48,021 so, we were just gonna have a really big celebration. 68 00:03:51,021 --> 00:03:57,021 - ♪ 69 00:03:57,021 --> 00:04:02,021 - FRE-DREANA: I can remember, I was giving my son his bath. 70 00:04:02,021 --> 00:04:06,021 We were getting ready to kinda settle down for the night. 71 00:04:06,021 --> 00:04:07,021 And the phone rang. 72 00:04:07,021 --> 00:04:12,021 I get on the phone and Keyon is panicking and saying, um, 73 00:04:12,021 --> 00:04:14,021 "Can y'all come over really quick? 74 00:04:14,021 --> 00:04:16,021 'Cause something is wrong with Avis." 75 00:04:17,021 --> 00:04:18,021 And he's saying "Y'all need to get over here quick, 76 00:04:18,021 --> 00:04:20,021 get over here quick, the ambulance is on the way." 77 00:04:22,021 --> 00:04:25,021 It's about a 30 to 45-minute drive 78 00:04:25,021 --> 00:04:27,021 from Vicksburg to Ridgeland. 79 00:04:27,021 --> 00:04:28,021 - [siren blaring] 80 00:04:28,021 --> 00:04:32,021 - FRE-DREANA: We finally make it to Avis's neighborhood, 81 00:04:32,021 --> 00:04:35,021 and you can barely get on the street. 82 00:04:35,021 --> 00:04:37,021 There's police everywhere. 83 00:04:38,021 --> 00:04:40,021 Firetrucks, ambulance, 84 00:04:40,021 --> 00:04:43,021 people pretty much saying, hey, you can't go down there. 85 00:04:45,021 --> 00:04:47,021 We're saying that's our family member's house, 86 00:04:48,021 --> 00:04:50,021 "That's my sister's house," "That's my daughter's house. 87 00:04:50,021 --> 00:04:52,021 We need to find out what's going on." 88 00:04:55,021 --> 00:05:00,021 Finally, a police officer walks up to us and ask, 89 00:05:00,021 --> 00:05:02,021 "Are y'all Avis's family?" 90 00:05:04,021 --> 00:05:09,021 And to look in the officer's eyes... 91 00:05:09,021 --> 00:05:12,021 and to hear him say Avis is no longer here... 92 00:05:16,021 --> 00:05:20,021 is a feeling that I don't think I will ever get over. 93 00:05:24,021 --> 00:05:27,021 After the officer explained to us what was going on, 94 00:05:28,021 --> 00:05:32,021 I noticed Keyon was at the neighbor's house. 95 00:05:32,021 --> 00:05:36,021 And he came out and he was kinda erratic, 96 00:05:36,021 --> 00:05:39,021 and I'm like, "Keyon, what's going on? 97 00:05:39,021 --> 00:05:41,021 "Were you there? What happened? 98 00:05:41,021 --> 00:05:42,021 Did you see anything?" 99 00:05:42,021 --> 00:05:45,021 And at this point, he's not saying anything. 100 00:05:47,021 --> 00:05:49,021 About five or ten minutes later, 101 00:05:49,021 --> 00:05:52,021 they're putting him in the back of a police car. 102 00:05:53,021 --> 00:05:57,021 I'm thinking, "Is this somebody that I trust 103 00:05:57,021 --> 00:05:59,021 that's actually a suspect?" 104 00:06:05,021 --> 00:06:09,021 - ♪ 105 00:06:09,021 --> 00:06:11,021 - FRANK: I'm detective Frank Dillard III. 106 00:06:11,021 --> 00:06:13,021 I was the lead detective doing the Avis Banks murder 107 00:06:13,021 --> 00:06:15,021 back in 2006. 108 00:06:18,021 --> 00:06:21,021 On November the 29th, 2006, 109 00:06:21,021 --> 00:06:24,021 I was informed that a young lady had been murdered 110 00:06:24,021 --> 00:06:26,021 and that her fiancée was the person that found her. 111 00:06:26,021 --> 00:06:31,021 - [siren blaring] 112 00:06:31,021 --> 00:06:33,021 - FRANK: When I go into a crime scene, 113 00:06:33,021 --> 00:06:35,021 I look for the straight facts, 114 00:06:35,021 --> 00:06:39,021 and if it doesn't add up, then I start breaking it down. 115 00:06:40,021 --> 00:06:43,021 In the garage was a car. 116 00:06:44,021 --> 00:06:48,021 And laying outside of the car was a black female. 117 00:06:49,021 --> 00:06:54,021 And you could tell she still had papers and clutching her purse. 118 00:06:54,021 --> 00:06:55,021 I also noticed that the door 119 00:06:55,021 --> 00:06:59,021 that led from the garage to the house was ajar. 120 00:07:01,021 --> 00:07:03,021 And it was apparent that she was shot. 121 00:07:03,021 --> 00:07:07,021 The bullet exit through the, uh, garage door. 122 00:07:07,021 --> 00:07:10,021 That pretty much told us that it was gonna be a .38, 123 00:07:10,021 --> 00:07:12,021 maybe a .357. 124 00:07:13,021 --> 00:07:16,021 There were nothing else left behind. 125 00:07:16,021 --> 00:07:18,021 Typically, if there are no shell casing, 126 00:07:18,021 --> 00:07:21,021 that tells us that the weapon that was used was a revolver. 127 00:07:23,021 --> 00:07:24,021 Upon entering the house, 128 00:07:24,021 --> 00:07:27,021 I noticed that certain things were in disarray. 129 00:07:27,021 --> 00:07:29,021 Drawers were open, 130 00:07:29,021 --> 00:07:32,021 and the house had been ransacked. 131 00:07:33,021 --> 00:07:36,021 The back door had several shoe prints on it, 132 00:07:36,021 --> 00:07:38,021 all with the same pattern, 133 00:07:38,021 --> 00:07:40,021 and that door was kicked. 134 00:07:43,021 --> 00:07:45,021 The scene itself looked very staged. 135 00:07:45,021 --> 00:07:47,021 There were too many items that were left behind 136 00:07:48,021 --> 00:07:49,021 in order for it to be a robbery. 137 00:07:50,021 --> 00:07:52,021 The killer should've heard the garage door open, 138 00:07:52,021 --> 00:07:54,021 the garage door close, her open her car door. 139 00:07:54,021 --> 00:07:58,021 That tells me that this person was not trying to leave 140 00:07:58,021 --> 00:08:00,021 to avoid her. 141 00:08:00,021 --> 00:08:03,021 This tells me that this person was waiting for her. 142 00:08:03,021 --> 00:08:06,021 I did notice that there were some slash marks on Avis's body. 143 00:08:07,021 --> 00:08:08,021 That speaks volumes. 144 00:08:09,021 --> 00:08:13,021 Most people can shoot someone because it's at a distance, 145 00:08:13,021 --> 00:08:14,021 they don't see the impact. 146 00:08:14,021 --> 00:08:16,021 But when you cut someone, that's very personal. 147 00:08:16,021 --> 00:08:24,021 - ♪ 148 00:08:24,021 --> 00:08:27,021 - FRANK: I did go to the coroner's office 149 00:08:27,021 --> 00:08:30,021 to get results from the prelim autopsy. 150 00:08:30,021 --> 00:08:33,021 I was informed that she was, at the time, 151 00:08:33,021 --> 00:08:36,021 carrying what was a healthy baby boy. 152 00:08:37,021 --> 00:08:41,021 I also was informed that the gunshot to the head 153 00:08:41,021 --> 00:08:43,021 was possibly the fatal shot. 154 00:08:45,021 --> 00:08:48,021 She was also shot in the stomach, 155 00:08:48,021 --> 00:08:51,021 which means to me that someone was trying to not only 156 00:08:51,021 --> 00:08:55,021 end her life, but end the child's life. 157 00:08:55,021 --> 00:08:57,021 After hearing that, I was en route to the station, 158 00:08:58,021 --> 00:09:00,021 where I could meet with the fiancée, Keyon. 159 00:09:05,021 --> 00:09:08,021 He seemed to be kinda jovial to a certain degree, 160 00:09:08,021 --> 00:09:10,021 very laid back. 161 00:09:11,021 --> 00:09:13,021 He was texting, he was making phone calls. 162 00:09:14,021 --> 00:09:16,021 He was even kind of laughing a little bit. 163 00:09:16,021 --> 00:09:17,021 At one point I had to remind him that, 164 00:09:17,021 --> 00:09:20,021 you know, "We're here because of an investigation 165 00:09:20,021 --> 00:09:24,021 of your dead fiancée and your, uh, dead child." 166 00:09:27,021 --> 00:09:29,021 I asked him some of the things that kinda happened 167 00:09:29,021 --> 00:09:31,021 as he saw that night. 168 00:09:31,021 --> 00:09:34,021 He was more than happy to tell me what he saw. 169 00:09:34,021 --> 00:09:37,021 What he did. 170 00:09:38,021 --> 00:09:39,021 According to Keyon, once he got off work, 171 00:09:39,021 --> 00:09:43,021 he had practice later on, 5:30, 172 00:09:43,021 --> 00:09:46,021 but he also had made groceries, and I believe he told me that 173 00:09:46,021 --> 00:09:48,021 he took the groceries to a friend's house, 174 00:09:48,021 --> 00:09:50,021 went back to practice, 175 00:09:50,021 --> 00:09:53,021 and after practice is when he went home to find Avis dead. 176 00:09:59,021 --> 00:10:03,021 Keyon said that when he pulled up to his driveway, 177 00:10:03,021 --> 00:10:05,021 he hit the remote to open the door. 178 00:10:05,021 --> 00:10:06,021 Once the door opened, 179 00:10:06,021 --> 00:10:10,021 that's when he saw Avis laying out. 180 00:10:10,021 --> 00:10:12,021 He ran over to her, shaking her and calling her name 181 00:10:12,021 --> 00:10:15,021 to see if she was still alive, 182 00:10:15,021 --> 00:10:17,021 and at that point he said he ran into the house 183 00:10:17,021 --> 00:10:20,021 to see if the assailant was still there. 184 00:10:20,021 --> 00:10:23,021 If a person has just killed someone, 185 00:10:23,021 --> 00:10:25,021 you're gonna run into the house where that person is 186 00:10:25,021 --> 00:10:28,021 without a weapon? That doesn't make sense to me. 187 00:10:28,021 --> 00:10:30,021 During murders, most people who are killed 188 00:10:30,021 --> 00:10:33,021 are killed by someone that they know. 189 00:10:33,021 --> 00:10:35,021 He's the one that found the body, 190 00:10:35,021 --> 00:10:39,021 he's the one that saw her last before she went to work. 191 00:10:39,021 --> 00:10:40,021 We had no reason to rule him out. 192 00:10:45,021 --> 00:10:47,021 Thinking that well, okay, I've-- I've gained his trust, 193 00:10:47,021 --> 00:10:49,021 now I can read him his Miranda. 194 00:10:49,021 --> 00:10:54,021 At that point, that's when he wanted to call attorneys. 195 00:11:03,021 --> 00:11:05,021 - His demeanor changed. 196 00:11:05,021 --> 00:11:10,021 He gets on the phone, he's talking to people, 197 00:11:10,021 --> 00:11:13,021 he's lashing out about the police department. 198 00:11:15,021 --> 00:11:19,021 - Before Keyon left, we did contact the judge 199 00:11:19,021 --> 00:11:20,021 and get a search warrant, 200 00:11:20,021 --> 00:11:24,021 so that we could do a GSR kit, gunshot residue. 201 00:11:24,021 --> 00:11:28,021 We really weren't sure what it would support. 202 00:11:28,021 --> 00:11:29,021 A gunshot residue just means 203 00:11:29,021 --> 00:11:32,021 that someone was in close proximity 204 00:11:32,021 --> 00:11:36,021 or had come into contact with someone who had been shot, 205 00:11:36,021 --> 00:11:40,021 or, uh, that had shot a weapon. 206 00:11:41,021 --> 00:11:44,021 We extracted gunshot residue from both hands, 207 00:11:44,021 --> 00:11:46,021 just in case he came up to be our main suspect. 208 00:11:47,021 --> 00:11:51,021 You don't always get instant gratification being a detective. 209 00:11:51,021 --> 00:11:53,021 Some things are gonna come later. 210 00:12:04,021 --> 00:12:07,021 - ♪ 211 00:12:07,021 --> 00:12:09,021 - FRANK: I spoke with the principal. 212 00:12:12,021 --> 00:12:15,021 Apparently Miss Hughes was not there. 213 00:12:15,021 --> 00:12:17,021 She had called it in, so the principal and I 214 00:12:17,021 --> 00:12:19,021 went to his office, 215 00:12:19,021 --> 00:12:22,021 and I asked him several different questions. 216 00:12:22,021 --> 00:12:25,021 Keyon and Carla, were they dating? 217 00:12:26,021 --> 00:12:27,021 According to the principal, 218 00:12:27,021 --> 00:12:30,021 he had a no fraternizing type policy. 219 00:12:31,021 --> 00:12:34,021 During the middle of our conversation, 220 00:12:34,021 --> 00:12:35,021 Carla came into the office. 221 00:12:38,021 --> 00:12:41,021 And she was already crying. 222 00:12:41,021 --> 00:12:44,021 And I said, "Why are you crying? Wh--what--what's the problem?" 223 00:12:44,021 --> 00:12:48,021 She said she was crying because of what Keyon had to go through, 224 00:12:48,021 --> 00:12:48,021 you know, with his fiancée. 225 00:12:51,021 --> 00:12:54,021 I thought that the way she was crying and sobbing 226 00:12:54,021 --> 00:12:57,021 was very excessive, I mean, 227 00:12:57,021 --> 00:12:59,021 why cry for somebody that you really don't know, 228 00:12:59,021 --> 00:13:01,021 unless you know them? 229 00:13:07,021 --> 00:13:11,021 - ♪ 230 00:13:11,021 --> 00:13:14,021 - My name is Gary Stewart and I serve as pastor 231 00:13:14,021 --> 00:13:16,021 of Greater Fairview Baptist Church in Pickens, Mississippi. 232 00:13:17,021 --> 00:13:21,021 I've been serving as Carla Hughes's consultant now 233 00:13:21,021 --> 00:13:22,021 since this incident happened. 234 00:13:26,021 --> 00:13:30,021 Carla and Keyon, they had met in July of '06, 235 00:13:30,021 --> 00:13:32,021 at the Chastain Middle School. 236 00:13:33,021 --> 00:13:35,021 There was a group of teachers that would meet as friends 237 00:13:35,021 --> 00:13:37,021 hanging out after work. 238 00:13:38,021 --> 00:13:40,021 When Keyon Pitman's fiancée had been killed, 239 00:13:40,021 --> 00:13:43,021 the police began to question her 240 00:13:43,021 --> 00:13:47,021 because of the fact that students had made testimony 241 00:13:47,021 --> 00:13:50,021 that, uh, they were passing notes one to another, 242 00:13:50,021 --> 00:13:51,021 things of that nature. 243 00:13:51,021 --> 00:13:55,021 So, there was evidence that a relationship, uh, 244 00:13:55,021 --> 00:13:57,021 was going on. 245 00:14:06,021 --> 00:14:08,021 - GARY: Carla's very personable. 246 00:14:08,021 --> 00:14:11,021 Somebody you really just couldn't conceive of being 247 00:14:12,021 --> 00:14:12,021 in something of this magnitude. 248 00:14:16,021 --> 00:14:20,021 - Initially, the reason why Carla denied the fact that 249 00:14:20,021 --> 00:14:23,021 she and Keyon were in a intimate relationship 250 00:14:23,021 --> 00:14:27,021 was because first and foremost they're teachers at the school. 251 00:14:27,021 --> 00:14:31,021 But now you have two innocent people that are killed. 252 00:14:31,021 --> 00:14:35,021 And so now truth has got to be dealt with. 253 00:15:05,021 --> 00:15:08,021 - GARY: Mr. Pittman said he'd arrived home 254 00:15:08,021 --> 00:15:11,021 and opened up his garage 255 00:15:11,021 --> 00:15:16,021 and he saw his pregnant fiancée lying in a pool of blood. 256 00:15:16,021 --> 00:15:18,021 He said that, uh, he immediately ran 257 00:15:19,021 --> 00:15:23,021 to a neighbor's home and asked the neighbor to call 911. 258 00:15:26,021 --> 00:15:28,021 Now, he has his cell phone, 259 00:15:28,021 --> 00:15:31,021 and he said the reason why he didn't use his cell phone 260 00:15:31,021 --> 00:15:34,021 was because he didn't want roaming charges. 261 00:15:34,021 --> 00:15:36,021 And I thought that was kind of suspect and suspicious, 262 00:15:37,021 --> 00:15:38,021 because who in the world 263 00:15:38,021 --> 00:15:43,021 thinks of...roaming charges 264 00:15:43,021 --> 00:15:46,021 at a time of that magnitude? 265 00:15:46,021 --> 00:15:47,021 What he did was, 266 00:15:47,021 --> 00:15:51,021 instead of immediately calling 911, 267 00:15:51,021 --> 00:15:53,021 he reached out to Carla. 268 00:16:07,021 --> 00:16:11,021 - Of course, we have to wonder, "Why is he not trying 269 00:16:11,021 --> 00:16:13,021 "to reach out to her parents? 270 00:16:13,021 --> 00:16:17,021 Why is he not trying to reach out to her family members?" 271 00:16:17,021 --> 00:16:22,021 What he says is that he frantically called Avis 272 00:16:22,021 --> 00:16:25,021 that evening trying to reach her, 273 00:16:25,021 --> 00:16:30,021 trying to locate her, wondering where she is, 274 00:16:30,021 --> 00:16:33,021 but the truth of the issue is, 275 00:16:33,021 --> 00:16:35,021 Keyon has never done that before. 276 00:16:35,021 --> 00:16:40,021 Which goes to a pattern of... "Why on this day 277 00:16:40,021 --> 00:16:46,021 are you so frantic trying to reach out to your fiancée?" 278 00:16:47,021 --> 00:16:49,021 There's never been this type of concern, 279 00:16:49,021 --> 00:16:54,021 there's never been this type of urgency to speak to her before, 280 00:16:54,021 --> 00:16:58,021 so why today? Why now? 281 00:16:58,021 --> 00:17:04,021 Is it because you know that something has happened 282 00:17:04,021 --> 00:17:06,021 and you're trying to cover your tracks? 283 00:17:10,021 --> 00:17:13,021 One of the interesting things was... 284 00:17:13,021 --> 00:17:16,021 when he gets to their home, 285 00:17:16,021 --> 00:17:19,021 he parks his car on the street. 286 00:17:19,021 --> 00:17:23,021 And I found that to be pretty odd because... 287 00:17:23,021 --> 00:17:24,021 if I'm coming home, I'm gonna park 288 00:17:24,021 --> 00:17:26,021 where I always park. 289 00:17:26,021 --> 00:17:28,021 If I park in my driveway, I'm gonna park in my driveway. 290 00:17:28,021 --> 00:17:32,021 If I park in the garage, I'm gonna park in my garage. 291 00:17:32,021 --> 00:17:35,021 But why would you park on the street, 292 00:17:35,021 --> 00:17:39,021 unless you know that when you open up your garage, 293 00:17:39,021 --> 00:17:42,021 something is amiss? 294 00:17:42,021 --> 00:17:47,021 The detectives were really, um, looking at Keyon. 295 00:18:18,021 --> 00:18:21,021 - After her meeting with Keyon and him dropping off groceries 296 00:18:21,021 --> 00:18:26,021 to her home, she then proceeded to go see a friend of hers. 297 00:18:46,021 --> 00:18:50,021 - GARY: Keyon Pittman comes to Carla's home and stays 298 00:18:50,021 --> 00:18:55,021 maybe 30, 45 minutes. 299 00:18:56,021 --> 00:19:01,021 His timeframe of him being gone and returning back to the gym 300 00:19:01,021 --> 00:19:02,021 is unaccounted for. 301 00:19:03,021 --> 00:19:07,021 Where did he go? How do we account for... 302 00:19:07,021 --> 00:19:12,021 his whereabouts for the time that all this is taking place? 303 00:19:12,021 --> 00:19:15,021 He's the only one that could've gotten in and out 304 00:19:15,021 --> 00:19:20,021 of his neighborhood without the neighbors or anybody 305 00:19:20,021 --> 00:19:22,021 asking any questions. 306 00:19:22,021 --> 00:19:28,021 His history, his pattern, produces nothing but suspicion. 307 00:19:38,021 --> 00:19:41,021 - ♪ 308 00:19:41,021 --> 00:19:43,021 - I'm John Neal, current police chief 309 00:19:43,021 --> 00:19:44,021 of the Ridgeland Police Department. 310 00:19:44,021 --> 00:19:46,021 At the time of this case, 311 00:19:46,021 --> 00:19:47,021 I was the lead investigator and the commander 312 00:19:47,021 --> 00:19:50,021 of the Criminal Investigations Division. 313 00:19:51,021 --> 00:19:53,021 This case started on a-- on a Wednesday evening and, uh, 314 00:19:53,021 --> 00:19:56,021 by the time that we got to the weekend, 315 00:19:56,021 --> 00:19:58,021 Keyon was--was still number one on our radar. 316 00:20:02,021 --> 00:20:06,021 Most humans, if this was your loved one and your unborn child, 317 00:20:06,021 --> 00:20:08,021 you're gonna move Heaven and Earth to offer as much 318 00:20:08,021 --> 00:20:09,021 information as you can, 319 00:20:09,021 --> 00:20:11,021 versus invoke your Fifth Amendment right and ask 320 00:20:11,021 --> 00:20:14,021 to talk to an attorney when you haven't even been accused 321 00:20:14,021 --> 00:20:15,021 of anything. 322 00:20:20,021 --> 00:20:23,021 Keyon was pretty much a player. 323 00:20:23,021 --> 00:20:25,021 He was a ladies' man and when you couple that 324 00:20:25,021 --> 00:20:26,021 with the fact that he's fixing to get married 325 00:20:26,021 --> 00:20:30,021 and he's got a fiancée at home who is--who is pregnant, 326 00:20:30,021 --> 00:20:32,021 we--we kind of started wondering if maybe this is 327 00:20:32,021 --> 00:20:34,021 the motive that we need to be looking for. 328 00:20:35,021 --> 00:20:38,021 During that initial interview, he was able to give us 329 00:20:38,021 --> 00:20:39,021 a little bit of information so we could start 330 00:20:39,021 --> 00:20:41,021 backtracking his actions to find out where--where he was 331 00:20:41,021 --> 00:20:44,021 during the time of the crime. 332 00:20:45,021 --> 00:20:48,021 We were able to assume based off the facts at the scene 333 00:20:48,021 --> 00:20:49,021 that Avis was killed somewhere between 5:45 334 00:20:49,021 --> 00:20:52,021 and maybe six o'clock. 335 00:20:55,021 --> 00:20:57,021 We were able to, uh, interview the assistant 336 00:20:57,021 --> 00:20:59,021 basketball coach, Antonio Caldwell. 337 00:21:00,021 --> 00:21:02,021 One of the questions that we wanted to make sure 338 00:21:02,021 --> 00:21:05,021 that Caldwell answered for us was whether or not Keyon stayed 339 00:21:05,021 --> 00:21:07,021 at the gym the entire time. 340 00:21:09,021 --> 00:21:11,021 - Keyon was at Chastain Middle School 341 00:21:11,021 --> 00:21:14,021 and remained there until about 7:30 that night. 342 00:21:14,021 --> 00:21:16,021 So, we--we knew he was not at the scene. 343 00:21:28,021 --> 00:21:31,021 That Tuesday afternoon, almost a week into the case, 344 00:21:32,021 --> 00:21:34,021 we got that--that break that we were really looking for. 345 00:21:35,021 --> 00:21:37,021 About halfway through the day, 346 00:21:37,021 --> 00:21:39,021 Detective Dillard comes to my office and said 347 00:21:39,021 --> 00:21:42,021 he just received a phone call from one of our local attorneys. 348 00:21:42,021 --> 00:21:43,021 He thought he had a piece of evidence 349 00:21:43,021 --> 00:21:45,021 that--that might be valuable to us. 350 00:21:46,021 --> 00:21:50,021 This local attorney had a client, Patrick Nash, 351 00:21:50,021 --> 00:21:53,021 and indicated they were in possession of a firearm 352 00:21:53,021 --> 00:21:54,021 that they think may have killed Avis Banks. 353 00:21:57,021 --> 00:21:58,021 You're always cautious about stuff like that because 354 00:21:58,021 --> 00:22:01,021 as many guns as there are out there on the street, 355 00:22:01,021 --> 00:22:03,021 you know, maybe this is just something that's gonna be used 356 00:22:03,021 --> 00:22:05,021 to throw us off of our trail. 357 00:22:05,021 --> 00:22:07,021 What is it that they're gonna be looking for 358 00:22:07,021 --> 00:22:10,021 if they come forward with this information? 359 00:22:10,021 --> 00:22:12,021 What's the price that we're gonna have to pay? 360 00:22:18,021 --> 00:22:19,021 We've got an interview room, uh... 361 00:22:20,021 --> 00:22:22,021 at the--the investigations division. 362 00:22:22,021 --> 00:22:25,021 So whenever the attorney and his client get there, 363 00:22:25,021 --> 00:22:28,021 we walk 'em into that room. 364 00:22:28,021 --> 00:22:31,021 They've got a good relationship with Detective Dillard, uh, 365 00:22:31,021 --> 00:22:34,021 so we just let him go in there and--and work his magic. 366 00:22:34,021 --> 00:22:37,021 - ♪ 367 00:22:37,021 --> 00:22:39,021 - JOHN: You know it's almost the longest hour 368 00:22:39,021 --> 00:22:42,021 of--of your life because you-- you want to know what's going on 369 00:22:42,021 --> 00:22:43,021 in that room. 370 00:22:43,021 --> 00:22:44,021 You want to know what information 371 00:22:44,021 --> 00:22:46,021 is--is coming out of it. 372 00:22:49,021 --> 00:22:51,021 As we're watching from the monitor room, 373 00:22:51,021 --> 00:22:54,021 the excitement of this is that proverbial smoking gun 374 00:22:54,021 --> 00:22:57,021 piece of evidence that we've been looking for... 375 00:22:57,021 --> 00:23:00,021 This is pivotal. 376 00:23:00,021 --> 00:23:02,021 Mr. Nash was-- was able to tell us 377 00:23:02,021 --> 00:23:05,021 through that--that initial interview that his father 378 00:23:05,021 --> 00:23:07,021 and Carla's father were actually brothers, 379 00:23:07,021 --> 00:23:09,021 so Carla is-- is Patrick's cousin. 380 00:23:11,021 --> 00:23:14,021 Carla had come by Patrick's house, 381 00:23:14,021 --> 00:23:18,021 and during their conversations, uh, she mentioned that she was 382 00:23:18,021 --> 00:23:19,021 having some trouble with some neighbors 383 00:23:19,021 --> 00:23:22,021 and she just didn't feel very safe at her house over there. 384 00:23:23,021 --> 00:23:25,021 Patrick questioned her as to why, 385 00:23:25,021 --> 00:23:27,021 and she just said, you know, "There's just been some-- 386 00:23:27,021 --> 00:23:29,021 "some break-ins around, I'd just like to have something 387 00:23:29,021 --> 00:23:31,021 for my protection." 388 00:23:33,021 --> 00:23:38,021 Patrick had a .38 caliber Rossi five-shot revolver 389 00:23:38,021 --> 00:23:41,021 that he wasn't using at the time. 390 00:23:41,021 --> 00:23:45,021 And he offered that to--to Carla just to take back with her 391 00:23:45,021 --> 00:23:46,021 for protection. 392 00:23:50,021 --> 00:23:52,021 Uh, and prior to Carla leaving the house, 393 00:23:52,021 --> 00:23:55,021 he also gave her a bladed hunting knife, uh, 394 00:23:55,021 --> 00:23:57,021 for just in case. 395 00:23:59,021 --> 00:24:00,021 But then he tells us that on the day 396 00:24:00,021 --> 00:24:03,021 that--that Avis was murdered, that he got a phone call 397 00:24:03,021 --> 00:24:06,021 from Carla that indicated that, uh, Keyon's fiancée 398 00:24:06,021 --> 00:24:08,021 had just been found dead in their house. 399 00:24:09,021 --> 00:24:13,021 It raised a little flag with him but he didn't think much of it. 400 00:24:13,021 --> 00:24:18,021 Until a couple of days later, uh, closer toward the weekend, 401 00:24:18,021 --> 00:24:21,021 Carla came back by his house and wanted to--to return 402 00:24:21,021 --> 00:24:24,021 the firearm that she had borrowed. 403 00:24:24,021 --> 00:24:28,021 Patrick, he looked at it and examined it and noticed 404 00:24:28,021 --> 00:24:31,021 that what was delivered to her as a fully loaded firearm 405 00:24:31,021 --> 00:24:34,021 was now empty. 406 00:24:34,021 --> 00:24:36,021 And Carla's statement to him was, 407 00:24:36,021 --> 00:24:37,021 "Well, you know, sometimes I just went out 408 00:24:37,021 --> 00:24:40,021 and did a little practice shooting." 409 00:24:41,021 --> 00:24:43,021 He thought that kind of odd. 410 00:24:44,021 --> 00:24:47,021 It just ate at him even more, and after a couple of days, uh, 411 00:24:47,021 --> 00:24:49,021 he--he did the right thing and turned it right over to us. 412 00:24:51,021 --> 00:24:53,021 When we got that firearm... 413 00:24:54,021 --> 00:24:56,021 Well, we also needed to get that--that to the crime lab 414 00:24:56,021 --> 00:24:57,021 as quick as we could. 415 00:25:00,021 --> 00:25:02,021 Every day, we're waiting on those results 416 00:25:02,021 --> 00:25:04,021 to--to come back in. 417 00:25:07,021 --> 00:25:10,021 And after about seven days, they did. 418 00:25:10,021 --> 00:25:12,021 It was exactly what we were hoping it was gonna show, 419 00:25:12,021 --> 00:25:15,021 that the firearm that Patrick Nash had turned into 420 00:25:15,021 --> 00:25:16,021 the Ridgedale Police Department 421 00:25:16,021 --> 00:25:21,021 was, in fact, the firearm that killed Avis Banks. 422 00:25:21,021 --> 00:25:22,021 You'd been waiting on these things, 423 00:25:22,021 --> 00:25:23,021 these pieces of the puzzle to fall in ever since 424 00:25:23,021 --> 00:25:26,021 this horrific crime happened, and bam. 425 00:25:26,021 --> 00:25:29,021 [chuckles] Just what we were waiting on. 426 00:25:34,021 --> 00:25:36,021 - ♪ 427 00:25:36,021 --> 00:25:37,021 - My name is Michael Guest. 428 00:25:37,021 --> 00:25:40,021 I was district attorney for Madison and Rankin County. 429 00:25:41,021 --> 00:25:46,021 On that Tuesday, Carla Hughes's uncle and cousin came 430 00:25:46,021 --> 00:25:49,021 to the Ridgeland Police Department. 431 00:25:49,021 --> 00:25:51,021 And they had with them a .38-caliber 432 00:25:51,021 --> 00:25:54,021 five-shot revolver handgun. 433 00:25:56,021 --> 00:25:59,021 The expert from the Mississippi State Crime Laboratory stated 434 00:25:59,021 --> 00:26:02,021 that without a doubt, uh, that the weapon, uh, 435 00:26:02,021 --> 00:26:05,021 that Carla Hughes had borrowed from her cousin 436 00:26:06,021 --> 00:26:07,021 the Sunday before the murder 437 00:26:07,021 --> 00:26:10,021 and returned the Friday after the murder, 438 00:26:10,021 --> 00:26:11,021 was in fact the gun that was used to shoot 439 00:26:12,021 --> 00:26:16,021 and kill Avis Banks. 440 00:26:16,021 --> 00:26:18,021 She actually returned the weapon to her cousin 441 00:26:18,021 --> 00:26:21,021 just hours after telling Detective Frank Dillard 442 00:26:21,021 --> 00:26:24,021 that she did not have any firearms in her possession. 443 00:26:24,021 --> 00:26:26,021 And on Wednesday, a warrant is issued 444 00:26:26,021 --> 00:26:29,021 for the arrest of Carla Hughes. 445 00:26:32,021 --> 00:26:34,021 She is originally charged with the crime 446 00:26:34,021 --> 00:26:35,021 of accessory after the fact. 447 00:26:39,021 --> 00:26:41,021 Uh, because law enforcement does not have enough evidence 448 00:26:42,021 --> 00:26:45,021 to link her to actually the death of Avis Banks 449 00:26:45,021 --> 00:26:48,021 at this point. 450 00:26:48,021 --> 00:26:50,021 But we do have enough evidence to link her to disposing 451 00:26:50,021 --> 00:26:51,021 of the murder weapon. 452 00:26:53,021 --> 00:26:55,021 We also were beginning to develop motive, 453 00:26:55,021 --> 00:26:57,021 and that motive was that Carla Hughes 454 00:26:57,021 --> 00:27:01,021 was romantically involved with Keyon Pittman. 455 00:27:03,021 --> 00:27:07,021 We saw that, uh, Carla was very possessive of Keyon, 456 00:27:07,021 --> 00:27:09,021 uh, that she wanted Keyon to leave Avis 457 00:27:09,021 --> 00:27:12,021 and to be with her. 458 00:27:12,021 --> 00:27:16,021 Carla Hughes had every motive in the world, uh, 459 00:27:16,021 --> 00:27:18,021 to kill Avis Banks, 460 00:27:18,021 --> 00:27:20,021 even more of a motive than Keyon. 461 00:27:20,021 --> 00:27:23,021 After she's arrested, there is an attempt, uh, 462 00:27:23,021 --> 00:27:26,021 by law enforcement to interview Carla. 463 00:27:28,021 --> 00:27:30,021 We attempted through her attorney to see 464 00:27:30,021 --> 00:27:32,021 if she had information that she could offer that would 465 00:27:32,021 --> 00:27:37,021 implicate Keyon in the death of Avis Banks. 466 00:27:37,021 --> 00:27:39,021 After consulting with her attorney, uh, 467 00:27:39,021 --> 00:27:41,021 she chooses not to speak with law enforcement. 468 00:28:19,021 --> 00:28:24,021 - MICHAEL: After Carla Hughes's, uh, arrest on Wednesday, 469 00:28:24,021 --> 00:28:26,021 a search warrant is issued for her home on Friday. 470 00:28:36,021 --> 00:28:40,021 - They're looking for the knife that was used to both 471 00:28:40,021 --> 00:28:43,021 stab and slash Avis Banks. 472 00:28:43,021 --> 00:28:45,021 Uh, they're looking for maybe items of clothing that 473 00:28:45,021 --> 00:28:49,021 would have blood on them, uh, looking for anything 474 00:28:49,021 --> 00:28:53,021 out of the ordinary that could tie Carla Hughes 475 00:28:53,021 --> 00:28:55,021 to the death of Avis Banks. 476 00:28:58,021 --> 00:29:00,021 - MICHAEL: One of the things that they know from 477 00:29:00,021 --> 00:29:02,021 the shoe impressions left on the rear door of the home, 478 00:29:02,021 --> 00:29:06,021 uh, they know that they are looking for a certain type 479 00:29:06,021 --> 00:29:09,021 of shoe that would have that same shoe pattern. 480 00:29:10,021 --> 00:29:14,021 As they begin searching through Carla's closet, 481 00:29:15,021 --> 00:29:17,021 one of the very first boxes of shoes that they find 482 00:29:18,021 --> 00:29:19,021 in the top of her closet 483 00:29:19,021 --> 00:29:23,021 is a size 10 Treadsafe tennis shoe. 484 00:29:26,021 --> 00:29:30,021 Uh, it has an identical pattern on the bottom of the shoe 485 00:29:30,021 --> 00:29:33,021 that matches the rear door of Avis's home. 486 00:29:34,021 --> 00:29:38,021 They began to examine the shoe very closely visually, 487 00:29:38,021 --> 00:29:40,021 uh, and they notice what they believe to be 488 00:29:40,021 --> 00:29:42,021 very minute amounts of blood on the shoe. 489 00:29:45,021 --> 00:29:49,021 So, we now believe that we have the shoes that the killer wore 490 00:29:49,021 --> 00:29:51,021 on the night in question. 491 00:29:51,021 --> 00:29:54,021 We now have two crucial pieces of evidence 492 00:29:55,021 --> 00:29:56,021 against Carla Hughes. 493 00:29:57,021 --> 00:30:01,021 First, she was in possession of the murder weapon, 494 00:30:01,021 --> 00:30:04,021 and now we have the shoes that were worn 495 00:30:04,021 --> 00:30:07,021 by the individual that gained access into the house. 496 00:30:09,021 --> 00:30:11,021 She would have been having to wear those shoes at the time 497 00:30:11,021 --> 00:30:15,021 the projectile would have struck Avis. 498 00:30:15,021 --> 00:30:17,021 Uh, blood would have spattered from that wound and that's how 499 00:30:17,021 --> 00:30:19,021 that blood would have been deposited on the shoes 500 00:30:19,021 --> 00:30:23,021 that we found in Carla's residence. 501 00:30:24,021 --> 00:30:26,021 At that point, we believe that almost immediately 502 00:30:26,021 --> 00:30:31,021 after Keyon left Carla's home, uh, that she then drove, uh, 503 00:30:31,021 --> 00:30:34,021 to the home uh that Keyon shared with Avis Banks. 504 00:30:39,021 --> 00:30:43,021 We believe that she kicked in the door. 505 00:30:45,021 --> 00:30:46,021 That she staged the crime scene there. 506 00:30:49,021 --> 00:30:52,021 And was laying in wait for Avis 507 00:30:52,021 --> 00:30:54,021 at the time Avis pulled in. 508 00:30:56,021 --> 00:30:58,021 When, uh, Avis exited the car... 509 00:31:01,021 --> 00:31:04,021 she was immediately confronted by Carla, 510 00:31:04,021 --> 00:31:08,021 who was waiting just inside the door. 511 00:31:08,021 --> 00:31:09,021 - [gunshot] 512 00:31:09,021 --> 00:31:13,021 - MICHAEL: She was shot a total of four times, 513 00:31:13,021 --> 00:31:14,021 two of those wounds being fatal gunshot wounds 514 00:31:14,021 --> 00:31:16,021 to the chest and the head. 515 00:31:18,021 --> 00:31:22,021 As she was on the ground, 516 00:31:22,021 --> 00:31:24,021 we believe that she was stabbed and slashed. 517 00:31:24,021 --> 00:31:35,021 - ♪ 518 00:31:35,021 --> 00:31:37,021 - MICHAEL: She immediately went home, 519 00:31:37,021 --> 00:31:40,021 cleaned up and awaited for Keyon to arrive. 520 00:31:42,021 --> 00:31:45,021 Based upon this new evidence that is recovered there 521 00:31:45,021 --> 00:31:46,021 at the home of, uh, Carla Hughes, 522 00:31:46,021 --> 00:31:49,021 the charges against Carla Hughes are now upgraded 523 00:31:49,021 --> 00:31:53,021 from accessory after the fact to murder, 524 00:31:53,021 --> 00:31:55,021 to now two counts of capital murder. 525 00:31:55,021 --> 00:31:57,021 One being the death of Avis Banks 526 00:31:57,021 --> 00:32:01,021 and the second being the death of Avis's unborn child. 527 00:32:03,021 --> 00:32:08,021 Capital murder in Mississippi carries one of two options. 528 00:32:08,021 --> 00:32:10,021 It's life or death. 529 00:32:16,021 --> 00:32:20,021 - ♪ 530 00:32:20,021 --> 00:32:22,021 - FRE-DREANA: We got a phone call 531 00:32:22,021 --> 00:32:28,021 the morning of Avis's funeral and it was Lieutenant Neal, 532 00:32:28,021 --> 00:32:33,021 and he said that, "I know today is gonna be a hard one for you, 533 00:32:34,021 --> 00:32:38,021 but let me kinda ease your pain." 534 00:32:39,021 --> 00:32:42,021 And he said, "We have a suspect." 535 00:32:47,021 --> 00:32:50,021 - JOHN: We knew by the time this--this case was wrapped up 536 00:32:50,021 --> 00:32:54,021 and packaged for the district attorney's office, 537 00:32:54,021 --> 00:32:57,021 we were 100% confident that we had the right person. 538 00:32:58,021 --> 00:33:00,021 - FRANK: On December the 8th, 539 00:33:00,021 --> 00:33:03,021 Carla was charged with two counts of murder. 540 00:33:04,021 --> 00:33:06,021 One because she killed Avis, 541 00:33:06,021 --> 00:33:08,021 and the other one because she killed Avis' baby. 542 00:33:10,021 --> 00:33:12,021 - MICHAEL: Our strategy in this case as we're preparing 543 00:33:12,021 --> 00:33:14,021 for trial is we know we gotta do two things. 544 00:33:15,021 --> 00:33:16,021 Uh, one, we have to convince the jury 545 00:33:16,021 --> 00:33:20,021 through circumstantial evidence that Carla Hughes did in fact 546 00:33:20,021 --> 00:33:22,021 kill Avis Banks. 547 00:33:24,021 --> 00:33:28,021 Simultaneously, we also know, uh, that we have to defend 548 00:33:28,021 --> 00:33:30,021 Keyon Pittman. 549 00:33:31,021 --> 00:33:35,021 The defense is going to try to give a theory of the case 550 00:33:35,021 --> 00:33:39,021 to the jury that Carla Hughes did not murder Avis Banks, 551 00:33:39,021 --> 00:33:42,021 but it was in fact Keyon Pittman. 552 00:33:46,021 --> 00:33:49,021 - GARY: The prosecution laid out its case, 553 00:33:49,021 --> 00:33:51,021 and it just stuck to one thing. 554 00:33:52,021 --> 00:33:55,021 Carla Hughes met Keyon Pittman 555 00:33:55,021 --> 00:33:58,021 and she wanted the lifestyle, 556 00:33:58,021 --> 00:34:00,021 she wanted Keyon Pittman. 557 00:34:00,021 --> 00:34:04,021 And she was willing to do anything, to include murder, 558 00:34:04,021 --> 00:34:08,021 to have Keyon Pittman. 559 00:34:10,021 --> 00:34:11,021 - JOHN: Keyon was gonna be the man that was gonna 560 00:34:11,021 --> 00:34:13,021 rejuvenate life in her. 561 00:34:16,021 --> 00:34:17,021 But Avis was in the way. 562 00:34:19,021 --> 00:34:21,021 The relationship, how did you view it? 563 00:34:21,021 --> 00:34:22,021 What did you think was going on? 564 00:34:22,021 --> 00:34:24,021 - A sexual adventure. 565 00:34:25,021 --> 00:34:29,021 It was pretty much, uh, whatever we chose to do sexually. 566 00:34:29,021 --> 00:34:33,021 - MICHAEL: How did you view the long-term, uh, prospects 567 00:34:33,021 --> 00:34:34,021 for your relationship with Carla Hughes? 568 00:34:34,021 --> 00:34:37,021 - There was no long term. 569 00:34:37,021 --> 00:34:39,021 - MICHAEL: What we tried to show to the jury is the longer 570 00:34:39,021 --> 00:34:42,021 that Carla and Keyon's relationship went on, 571 00:34:42,021 --> 00:34:43,021 the more possessive that she became. 572 00:34:43,021 --> 00:34:45,021 When you were around friends and relatives 573 00:34:45,021 --> 00:34:47,021 during this period of time, 574 00:34:47,021 --> 00:34:50,021 how would she introduce you to those folks? 575 00:34:50,021 --> 00:34:52,021 - She would introduce me as her future husband. 576 00:34:52,021 --> 00:34:54,021 - MICHAEL: Did there ever come a time when she began 577 00:34:54,021 --> 00:34:57,021 to talk to you about leaving Avis or getting married? 578 00:35:00,021 --> 00:35:03,021 - [sighs] That would always come up. 579 00:35:03,021 --> 00:35:07,021 - MICHAEL: On the day before Carla borrowed the firearm, 580 00:35:07,021 --> 00:35:11,021 Keyon testified that Carla continually called him, 581 00:35:11,021 --> 00:35:12,021 and he said that she became very angry, 582 00:35:12,021 --> 00:35:18,021 and she even uttered the phrase, "Something is about to change." 583 00:35:18,021 --> 00:35:20,021 And we know that that's when she determined 584 00:35:20,021 --> 00:35:24,021 that she was going to remove Avis Banks from the equation. 585 00:35:25,021 --> 00:35:26,021 She knew that Avis was pregnant? 586 00:35:26,021 --> 00:35:28,021 - Yes. 587 00:35:28,021 --> 00:35:30,021 - ♪ 588 00:35:31,021 --> 00:35:34,021 - FRE-DREANA: Carla wanted what Avis had. 589 00:35:34,021 --> 00:35:37,021 Carla wanted the life, she wanted the child, 590 00:35:37,021 --> 00:35:39,021 she wanted the house. 591 00:35:39,021 --> 00:35:42,021 - GARY: In my getting to know Carla, uh, 592 00:35:42,021 --> 00:35:48,021 versus...the picture that was painted of Carla... 593 00:35:48,021 --> 00:35:50,021 two total opposites. 594 00:35:52,021 --> 00:35:57,021 The prosecution, they wanted us to believe that Carla was able 595 00:35:57,021 --> 00:36:02,021 to separate the door frame from the house, 596 00:36:02,021 --> 00:36:04,021 causing the footprints of those shoes-- 597 00:36:04,021 --> 00:36:08,021 those Treadsafe shoes-- to be on the door, 598 00:36:08,021 --> 00:36:13,021 stage the house as if though a burglar had come in... 599 00:36:15,021 --> 00:36:20,021 shoot and stab Avis Banks, 600 00:36:20,021 --> 00:36:24,021 and get out of there in 21 minutes. 601 00:36:24,021 --> 00:36:28,021 My suggestion would be Carla would have to be superhuman, 602 00:36:28,021 --> 00:36:30,021 or there'd have to be somebody else. 603 00:36:32,021 --> 00:36:35,021 - FRANK: Carla's attorneys did try to make it seem as though 604 00:36:35,021 --> 00:36:38,021 Keyon himself did it and blamed Carla for it. 605 00:36:41,021 --> 00:36:43,021 - GARY: They wore the same size shoes, 606 00:36:43,021 --> 00:36:48,021 he had a key to her place, sets it up all for him 607 00:36:48,021 --> 00:36:50,021 to be able to commit this crime, 608 00:36:50,021 --> 00:36:55,021 get the shoes and get that weapon back to Carla's place, 609 00:36:55,021 --> 00:36:57,021 and her not know anything about it. 610 00:36:57,021 --> 00:36:58,021 It was the perfect frame-up. 611 00:37:02,021 --> 00:37:05,021 - ♪ 612 00:37:05,021 --> 00:37:08,021 - MICHAEL: The defense tried to paint a picture of Keyon 613 00:37:08,021 --> 00:37:12,021 as someone who did not wanna be tied down, uh, 614 00:37:12,021 --> 00:37:16,021 as someone who was more of a playboy type of personality. 615 00:37:17,021 --> 00:37:21,021 But there was no way physically possible that Keyon 616 00:37:21,021 --> 00:37:24,021 could have been in two places at one time. 617 00:37:24,021 --> 00:37:26,021 We had put forth eyewitnesses 618 00:37:26,021 --> 00:37:29,021 placing him at basketball practice during the time 619 00:37:29,021 --> 00:37:31,021 of Avis' death. 620 00:37:32,021 --> 00:37:35,021 Mr. Pittman, did you kill Avis Banks? 621 00:37:35,021 --> 00:37:38,021 - No. No. 622 00:37:38,021 --> 00:37:42,021 - MICHAEL: Do you feel any responsibility for her death? 623 00:37:42,021 --> 00:37:45,021 - Yes. 624 00:37:45,021 --> 00:37:47,021 - MICHAEL: Tell me how. 625 00:37:47,021 --> 00:37:53,021 - If I would have stayed faithful to who I was with, 626 00:37:53,021 --> 00:37:56,021 but made a bad choice to sleep around 627 00:37:57,021 --> 00:38:00,021 and flirt with other women, 628 00:38:00,021 --> 00:38:03,021 this chain of events would have never taken place. 629 00:38:07,021 --> 00:38:11,021 - JUDGE: If the, uh, defendant would please rise. 630 00:38:11,021 --> 00:38:16,021 - FRANK: On October the 13th, 2009, Carla was convicted. 631 00:38:16,021 --> 00:38:17,021 A sentence of incarceration 632 00:38:17,021 --> 00:38:19,021 without the possibility of being paroled. 633 00:38:22,021 --> 00:38:25,021 - FRE-DREANA: When the words 634 00:38:25,021 --> 00:38:30,021 "Carla Hughes is found guilty" was read, 635 00:38:30,021 --> 00:38:35,021 it was like...closure. 636 00:38:35,021 --> 00:38:37,021 It was relief. 637 00:38:37,021 --> 00:38:40,021 It was... "Now my sister can rest." 638 00:38:43,021 --> 00:38:44,021 - FRANK: Carla seemed like she couldn't believe it. 639 00:38:44,021 --> 00:38:47,021 She really thought she was gonna get off. 640 00:38:47,021 --> 00:38:51,021 She was sitting over, doodling on paper, 641 00:38:51,021 --> 00:38:53,021 and she was planning the wedding for her and Keyon 642 00:38:53,021 --> 00:38:55,021 after the trial. 643 00:38:57,021 --> 00:39:00,021 - JOHN: The gut feeling we have about Keyon Pittman 644 00:39:00,021 --> 00:39:03,021 that he's got some involvement in this is still there, 645 00:39:03,021 --> 00:39:05,021 but we just couldn't back it up with any--with any proof 646 00:39:05,021 --> 00:39:07,021 or--or evidence. 647 00:39:07,021 --> 00:39:11,021 - FRE-DREANA: I believe Carla is the right person. 648 00:39:11,021 --> 00:39:14,021 Do I believe Keyon is guilty? Yes. 649 00:39:14,021 --> 00:39:18,021 But the crime that he committed, he could not be charged for. 650 00:39:18,021 --> 00:39:23,021 Keyon was...a womanizer, 651 00:39:23,021 --> 00:39:25,021 and if it was a crime for being a cheater, 652 00:39:26,021 --> 00:39:28,021 yes, Keyon is guilty for that. 653 00:39:31,021 --> 00:39:34,021 - GARY: In this particular situation, 654 00:39:34,021 --> 00:39:35,021 a dangerous game was played. 655 00:39:35,021 --> 00:39:39,021 And--and you have to be careful about playing with the feelings 656 00:39:39,021 --> 00:39:41,021 and the emotions of people, 657 00:39:41,021 --> 00:39:44,021 simply because you just don't know how it can turn out. 658 00:39:57,021 --> 00:40:08,021 - ♪ 659 00:40:10,021 --> 00:40:11,021 ♪♪