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        dramatic music playing     

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      [Nieves]   Something always     
     was ready to happen at Attica. 

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       The population was tired.     

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      Tired of lies, of promises.    

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             We were tired.          

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         Someone hit the guard.      

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       And after you hit a guard,    
               it's over.            

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   But then all hell broke loose.   

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          [sirens blaring]          

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       I'm in the metal shop.       

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          We start hearing          
       these sirens going off.      

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               I said,              
   "Damn, what the hell is this?"   

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        I was in the shower.        

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    I came out, I'm soaking wet,    

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    and the place is going crazy.   

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        And all of a sudden,        

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        I seen the metal shop       
             door open,             

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    and I seen guys come running    
              in there              

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        with great big pipes        
             and knives.            

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       And before you knew it,      

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        everybody was running       
         all over the place.        

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       Then you started seeing      
     people sticking their faces    

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       through the broken windows    
              and saying,            

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          "Grab the guards!         
          Grab the guards!          

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           Grab the keys!           
           Get the keys!"           

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           There's guards           
      that are getting beat up.     

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          Anybody that fell         
     in your hand that was part     

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        of the administration       
      was gonna get a beatdown.     

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   Here's my opportunity to fight   
     those who beat me down now,    

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           'cause I'm with          
     a whole lot of killers now.    

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        It's us versus them.        

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       I just jumped in there.      
       I didn't plan anything.      

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   I wasn't that type of thinker.   

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   I was kicking the police's ass. 
        I felt good about it.       

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         It would have ended        
            right there,            

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          because they were         
         in a confined area,        

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   locks on the block, locks here, 
      Times Square was locked,      

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     but the prisoners went back    
        towards Times Square        

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   and began to yank on the gates. 

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   [Sheppard]   All the four blocks   
          met at Times Square.       

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      In the context of the layout   
             of the prison,          

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      Times Square is the hub,      

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   the central hub of the prison.   

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      suspenseful music playing    

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           [Quinn Miller]           
        The morning of the riot,     

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     my father was in Times Square. 

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              He had keys            
        to all of the doorways,      

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   and unfortunately, the inmates   
        that were in A tunnel       

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   continued to push against, uh,   

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           that cell door,          

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     and they began yelling, um,    

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   for my dad to unlock the gate.   

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    As Quinn jumped back, I said,   
        "Oh, shit, this is--"       

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        and he hit that horn,       
      and the foghorn, like...      

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          [imitating alarm]         

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    And then they started banging   
            on the gate,            

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        banging on the gate,        
        banging on the gate.        

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     And unbeknownst to anybody,    

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          one of the hinges         
      has been welded together,     

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     kind of jury-rigged during     
   the construction in the 1930s.   

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          That weld broke.          

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        The lock just popped.       

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     And they rushed out. Boom.     

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      When the gate came down,      
      they attacked my father,      

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       and they took his keys,      

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          which, of course,         
          gave them access          

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         to all of the doors        
        within Times Square.        

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        Um, and he was beaten       
           very severely.           

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           I double back,           

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       and I put two knuckles       
          on Quinn's neck.          

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        I could feel a pulse,       
       but it was very faint.       

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       It was like a flutter,       

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     and a minute or two later,     
          another flutter.          

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       There were some inmates      
          that knew my dad,         

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     four Muslim inmates who got    
      a mattress out of A block     

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             and put my dad          
            on the mattress,         

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          and they brought him       
           from Times Square         

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      and told them that they have   
          a correction officer       

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      that has been badly injured,   

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              and he needs           
           medical attention.        

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             At some point,          
        an ambulance did arrive.     

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           During that time,         
         my mother was notified      

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      that my father was injured.    

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           [siren wailing]          

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    After they got Quinn's keys,    
    they opened up all four sides   

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    and said, "We got the joint."   

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        And they hollered it.       
         "We got the joint!"        

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        [prisoners shouting]        

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     [Roche]   We took every block    
             in the joint.           

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             We took it.            

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      But we couldn't hold it.      

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      So we all retreated back      
             to D block.            

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    [helicopter blades whirring]    

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             [reporter]             
        The place is blowing up.     

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             Smoke pouring           
          from five buildings,       

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     the prison chapel and laundry   
           gutted by flames.         

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   [Harrison]   We only had control   
             of that yard.           

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            They had control         
             of the system.          

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    They had control of the gates   
   and the doors and the walkways. 

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     They was up on the walkways    
             with guns,             

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       where they can watch you.     

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             [reporter]             
     I'm panning now from B block,   

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          taking in the group        
        on the roof of C block.      

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         Now D yard and D block      
          is coming into view.       

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    [police officer]   Shooting now   
     through the .270 rifle scope.   

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       And there is the ugliest,     
        Blackest Negro gentleman     

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       I've ever seen in my life.    

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    [Sheppard]   We knew they were    
       out there on the catwalks.    

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     They would position themselves 
               in a way--            

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          although you knew         
          they were there,          

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     they positioned themselves     
            out of sight.           

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             [reporter]             
         Most of the prisoners       

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       have concealed their faces    
      by wearing scarves, towels,    

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           and what have you         
           over their faces.         

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    There was a way to guard your   
    identity from being exposed,    

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        and if they came in,        
    you know, you had protection.   

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        Or we thought we did.       

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        In Attica, New York,        
   about 1,000 long-term convicts   

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            today rioted,           
       and they gained control      

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   of the maximum security prison. 

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       They also seized 33 guards    
              as hostages            

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           and injured others        
            in the fighting.         

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       State police have regained    
     control of most of the prison, 

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            but the trouble          
            isn't over yet.          

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       [Sheppard]   When we got       
      to D yard with the hostages,   

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   we hollered, "We got hostages!" 

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          And you had about         
    1,000 men shouting that out.    

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       You know, and the hostages    
      keep the police from coming    

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         and bapping on us.         

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      You gotta have hostages.      

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          That's the only--         
     that's your only leverage.     

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         As long as they had        
           the hostages--           

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       they didn't have guns,       
     and they didn't have this,     

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     and they didn't have that,     

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       but they had hostages,       
      and they're your people,      

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       and you're responsible       
          for your people.          

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         You're responsible         
       to protect your people       

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          and do your job.          

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     "Sit down. Negotiate with us." 

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             [reporter]             
      You're getting into the area   

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         where the 21 hostages       
            are being held.          

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      They're in that main group.    
             In the center.          

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             [reporter]             
       We can't distinguish them     

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         because the prisoners       
               have taken            

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          their clothing away        
       and put prison clothes on.    

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        They were blindfolded       
            in a circle,            

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     in the middle of the yard.     

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        They also had guards,       
           inmate guards,           

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       that were around them,       
          protecting them.          

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              [Sharif]              
     And we seen them as captives.   

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       We seen them as people       
            who were in--           

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       under our supervision.       

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   So we couldn't do harm to them. 

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    My understanding of Islam was   
   that you don't harm a captive.   

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      Therefore, it was decided     

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    to allow the Muslim brothers    

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        to look out for them.       

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    I was so mad at them for not    
    letting us get to the police,   

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          because I wanted          
          to put my hands--         

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           I wanted to get          
         one or two of them         

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      and really fuck them up.      

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      These are the same police     
    that was talking down to me,    

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    dirty to me, and telling me,    

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           "Get over here,          
         do this, do that."         

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       So I said, "Yeah, now,       
   what do you think about me now? 

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            Yeah, yeah."            

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            And a good thing         
      that them Muslims was there,   

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      because a lot of them police   
         would have been hurt.       

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              Really hurt.           

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              [Brosig]              
         It's hard for somebody      

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         that has never been        
     incarcerated to understand     

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      how surreal everything is     
       at this point in time.       

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    We had nobody threatening us.   

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          We had--you know,         
          it sounds crazy,          

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      but it was--when you had      
          a little bit of--         

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       even this much control       
         over your own life,        

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      even for a short period,      

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    and you know it's gonna cost    
      you, you know, in spades,     

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      you know, it was a moment     
           of exuberation,          

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     of somehow doing something     

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        to have some control        
         over your own life.        

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      upbeat funk music playing    

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              [Victory]             
     When you first got out there,   

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          it was total chaos.        

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     Guys are coming out with food, 
      clothing, setting up tents.    

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         It was a festive time.      
             We were free.           

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      [Sharif]   We came together     
            as a community.          

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      That's when there was not     
             such thing             

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     as Black, white, Hispanic,     
            or whatever.            

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    It was about we are inmates,    

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       and we need to be able       
   to survive whatever's going on. 

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            Power! Unity!           

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        [indistinct chatter]        

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            Come on, 38.            

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      -Tell 'em we ain't dead.      
      -Tell 'em we ain't dead.      

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      Yeah, get all this here.      

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             [laughter]             

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       Tell 'em we ain't dead.      

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    Ain't nothing dead about us.    

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         We ain't gonna die.        

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        -[prisoner] Nothing.        
      -We will not die in here.     

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         [Sheppard]   The guys        
       that had been to Vietnam,     

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             they said,             
        "Let's make hooches."       

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          Hooch was a tent.         

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           You took a stick,         
      and you put a sheet over it    

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          and pulled it back,        

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           and that was your         
           sleeping quarters.        

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    By the time guys started, uh,   

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   having to go to the bathrooms,   

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     it was--none were working.     

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       The guys that had been       
             to Vietnam             

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        and been in the army,       

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               they said,            
       "We gotta make a latrine."    

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     They knew what a latrine was.   

218
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            I didn't know           
         what a latrine was.        

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        [indistinct chatter]        

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       Give him a little lap.       

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        All right, all right.       

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                Okay.               

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      There was this brother--      

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         and I say brother.         

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            He was white.           

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     His--they called him Tiny,     

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       and he was, like, a nurse     

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      before the Attica rebellion    
               happened.             

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        They set up the medical      
          section in the yard        

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          for anybody who had        
          any problems to go,        

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                and Tiny             
        would take care of them.     

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      And the medical attention     
     in the yard was much better    

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     than the medical attention     
    we got throughout the years.    

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             [Killebrew]            
      Oh, and we had a good time.    

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           We was making wine        
       and cooking food outside.     

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      It was like a big picnic,     
         like a shantytown.         

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       You know, like   Deadwood      
              when, uh,             

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   when, uh, Buffalo Bill was out. 

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      You ever--you ever watch      
               Gunsmoke?             

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            The Western?            

242
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          Well, Matt Dillon         
    was the marshal of   Gunsmoke.    

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           He kept order.           

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               In D yard,            
     we didn't have a Matt Dillon.   

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          Every man was a law        
             unto himself.           

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       You did whatever the hell     
           you wanted to do.         

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        And there was no order.      

248
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        [prisoners shouting]        

250
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           [siren wailing]          

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         solemn music playing      

252
00:13:58,213 --> 00:14:03,176
                                  

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              [Johnson]             
      The assignment editor says,    

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         "There's this place        
           called Attica,           

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          and there's some          
        prison riot up there,       

256
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           and we want you          
         to go up and do it.        

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      We're not sure about any      
      of what the details are,      

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           specifically."           

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       And all five went, uh,       

260
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           up to Buffalo,           

261
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       and then on to Attica.       

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        This is John Johnson,       
     ABC News, Attica, New York.    

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      It was just an extremely,     

264
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        uh, fluid situation,        

265
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          to say the least.         

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           And it was hard          
         to get information.        

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                I mean,              
        we couldn't get inside,      

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         and all we heard was,       

269
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      these inmates want to talk,    
        and they have prisoners.     

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       And this was something       
   almost that had never happened   

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             in history,            
       this huge institution,       

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          where the inmates         
           had taken over.          

273
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          Oh, my goodness.          

274
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                [Dan]               
           "Attica, New York?        

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        I never heard of Attica,     
               New York.             

276
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           What's in Attica?"        

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     Quite frankly, I did not know   
             what to expect          

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         when I got to Attica.       

279
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           We parked right          
       in front of the prison.      

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   So consequently, we just set up 

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         and started filming        

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    as much as we possibly could    

283
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          of the activities         
       outside of the prison.       

284
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           We had no idea           
     what was happening inside.     

285
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          [police officer]          
        Your instructions are       

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          that your weapon          
         is not to be taken,        

287
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      nor are you to be taken.      

288
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        You're to meet force        
             with force.            

289
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           There have been          
    some of the prison personnel    

290
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        severely injured here       
            this morning,           

291
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     and we certainly don't want    
   to see any of our people hurt.   

292
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                [Dan]               
       The state police officers     

293
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     were being handed out weapons. 

294
00:16:07,384 --> 00:16:10,595
         They were making sure       
          they had gas masks.        

295
00:16:10,637 --> 00:16:14,224
        It looked to me like        
      they were ready to go in      

296
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       and retake the prison.       

297
00:16:16,685 --> 00:16:18,311
      [reporter] Sir, are there     
          any circumstances         

298
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        might you go inside?        

299
00:16:19,771 --> 00:16:21,356
             Pardon me?             

300
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   [reporter] Might you go inside   
      under some circumstances?     

301
00:16:23,108 --> 00:16:25,402
       Well, one doesn't know.      
     I'll have to feel this out.    

302
00:16:25,444 --> 00:16:26,903
          Have the inmates          
          made any demands?         

303
00:16:26,945 --> 00:16:28,363
    Do the prisoners want to meet   
           with you, sir?           

304
00:16:28,405 --> 00:16:29,990
     I don't know, they say that    
       they only want to speak      

305
00:16:30,032 --> 00:16:31,992
      with the governor or me.      

306
00:16:32,034 --> 00:16:34,911
   There seemed to be some sense,   
            at the time,            

307
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      that we're going to have      
       to negotiate something       

308
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          to save the lives         
          of the hostages.          

309
00:16:42,502 --> 00:16:47,090
        Because of the hostages      
            that they have,          

310
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         there's a possibility       
     that negotiations will begin.   

311
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         [indistinct speech         
        through loudspeaker]        

312
00:16:56,266 --> 00:16:59,061
             [reporter]             
         We're looking at a man      

313
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          using a loudspeaker,       
              a bullhorn.            

314
00:17:07,486 --> 00:17:10,447
      There appears to be a large    
     meeting going on in this area, 

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                although             
         we can't hear anything      

316
00:17:12,324 --> 00:17:14,451
           from that section.        

317
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         The inmates decided        
           that, you know,          

318
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       they're in a situation       
           that, you know,          

319
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            that required           
      a little bit more focus,      

320
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    a little bit more discipline.   

321
00:17:29,674 --> 00:17:30,967
        We asked the population,     

322
00:17:31,009 --> 00:17:33,804
            "Who do you want         
           to represent you?"        

323
00:17:33,845 --> 00:17:35,931
   Legal prosecution of any kind!   

324
00:17:35,972 --> 00:17:39,017
     [Sheppard]   We had elections    
            block by block.          

325
00:17:39,059 --> 00:17:42,562
          That's where we got        
           our leaders from.         

326
00:17:42,604 --> 00:17:46,566
     Now, some guys had some juice   
           in there already.         

327
00:17:46,608 --> 00:17:48,819
          The guys that had         
         been there a while,        

328
00:17:48,860 --> 00:17:52,781
    who other inmates respected.    

329
00:17:52,823 --> 00:17:54,116
        [Harrison]   What they        
         were saying made sense      

330
00:17:54,157 --> 00:17:57,202
           to most everybody         
         that was in that yard.      

331
00:17:57,244 --> 00:17:59,162
            They had a plan.         

332
00:17:59,204 --> 00:18:01,164
       And they had a plan about     
        making things different      

333
00:18:01,206 --> 00:18:03,959
     for the prison system itself.   

334
00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,545
            All we wanted           
      is the basic necessities      

335
00:18:06,586 --> 00:18:09,047
          of being treated          
         like human beings.         

336
00:18:09,089 --> 00:18:10,298
    Even though we're in prison,    

337
00:18:10,340 --> 00:18:11,633
         we're human beings,        
        and stuff like that.        

338
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       The prisoners in the yard     
         must have had a radio.      

339
00:18:19,182 --> 00:18:22,018
      They heard I was outside.     

340
00:18:22,060 --> 00:18:24,771
        So they asked for me        
             to come in.            

341
00:18:24,813 --> 00:18:27,190
            I said, "Sure."          

342
00:18:27,232 --> 00:18:29,651
          And they then said,        

343
00:18:29,693 --> 00:18:32,654
     "We would like Commissioner    
         Oswald to come in."        

344
00:18:32,696 --> 00:18:36,324
     And some of his assistants     
                said,               

345
00:18:36,366 --> 00:18:38,535
        "Don't go. Don't go.        

346
00:18:38,577 --> 00:18:41,621
   They'll--you can't trust them." 

347
00:18:41,663 --> 00:18:44,499
        And Oswald said, "Well,      
      of course I'm gonna go in."    

348
00:18:46,084 --> 00:18:47,586
              [Sharif]              
      We are glad to have someone    

349
00:18:47,627 --> 00:18:50,547
        from the administration,     
        point blank, coming in.      

350
00:18:52,632 --> 00:18:53,633
          We making some kind        
              of headway.            

351
00:18:53,675 --> 00:18:54,843
          We getting here.          

352
00:18:54,885 --> 00:18:56,803
         We got some contact        
           with somebody.           

353
00:18:56,845 --> 00:18:59,347
      We got some negotiations.     
       You're listening to us.      

354
00:18:59,389 --> 00:19:01,766
          I've never heard          
           of this before,          

355
00:19:01,808 --> 00:19:04,686
      negotiating with inmates,     

356
00:19:04,728 --> 00:19:08,815
         and I just assumed         

357
00:19:08,857 --> 00:19:12,986
      that this was going to be     
          a landmark moment         

358
00:19:13,028 --> 00:19:14,821
        in American history.        

359
00:19:14,863 --> 00:19:19,242
         I thought that this        
     was going to be negotiated     

360
00:19:19,284 --> 00:19:20,619
    to a decent humanitarian end.   

361
00:19:23,747 --> 00:19:27,626
       It seems to be a little      
     misunderstanding about why     

362
00:19:27,667 --> 00:19:29,711
       this incident developed      
           here at Attica,          

363
00:19:29,753 --> 00:19:32,881
      and this declaration here     
      will explain the reasons.     

364
00:19:32,923 --> 00:19:35,050
         The entire incident        

365
00:19:35,091 --> 00:19:38,595
         that has erupted here       
      at Attica is not a result...   

366
00:19:38,637 --> 00:19:41,514
         serene music playing      

367
00:19:41,556 --> 00:19:43,183
                                  

368
00:19:43,225 --> 00:19:45,310
      There are college towns,      
     and there's factory towns--    

369
00:19:45,352 --> 00:19:47,270
     there's all kinds of towns     
          in this country,          

370
00:19:47,312 --> 00:19:49,105
    and this is Attica, New York.   

371
00:19:49,147 --> 00:19:50,357
         It's a prison town.        

372
00:19:52,901 --> 00:19:54,194
             [narrator]             
           Most of the people        

373
00:19:54,236 --> 00:19:56,029
        in the village of Attica     
           make their living         

374
00:19:56,071 --> 00:19:58,114
      working at the state prison.   

375
00:19:59,699 --> 00:20:01,451
     For 40 years, most have lived   

376
00:20:01,493 --> 00:20:03,870
              within sight           
          of the prison walls.       

377
00:20:03,912 --> 00:20:05,288
       They have never feared it.    

378
00:20:10,252 --> 00:20:13,755
        The village of Attica       
     was a great place to live.     

379
00:20:13,797 --> 00:20:16,716
        It was very typical,        

380
00:20:16,758 --> 00:20:19,094
        I think, small town,        

381
00:20:19,135 --> 00:20:22,472
      where you knew everyone.      

382
00:20:22,514 --> 00:20:24,975
    You were related to probably    
          half of the town.         

383
00:20:27,519 --> 00:20:29,729
     [local]   We'd ride our bikes    
             through town,           

384
00:20:29,771 --> 00:20:31,356
          we'd go to the park,       
            we'd go swimming         

385
00:20:31,398 --> 00:20:33,108
          at the public pool,        

386
00:20:33,149 --> 00:20:35,652
             we'd go hiking          
            up in the woods.         

387
00:20:39,447 --> 00:20:42,575
           [Quinn Miller]           
       Attica is a company town.     

388
00:20:42,617 --> 00:20:45,078
           Many of the people        
             who work there          

389
00:20:45,120 --> 00:20:46,746
       and had lived in our town     

390
00:20:46,788 --> 00:20:48,748
          worked as either          
         civilian employees         

391
00:20:48,790 --> 00:20:52,502
       or corrections officers      
             at Attica.             

392
00:20:52,544 --> 00:20:56,172
      My grandfather worked there,   

393
00:20:56,214 --> 00:20:59,301
          my dad worked there,       

394
00:20:59,342 --> 00:21:01,845
        and between six or eight     
             of the houses           

395
00:21:01,886 --> 00:21:03,513
        that were on our street      

396
00:21:03,555 --> 00:21:06,349
        had correction officers      
        or civilian individuals      

397
00:21:06,391 --> 00:21:08,101
            working in them          
          with their families.       

398
00:21:12,689 --> 00:21:15,650
         [Heath]   These were         
       the only jobs in the area.    

399
00:21:15,692 --> 00:21:19,029
     Dairy farming and the prison.   

400
00:21:19,070 --> 00:21:22,574
   So there was this culture clash 
    that came together at Attica.   

401
00:21:22,615 --> 00:21:26,536
      You had all white guards      

402
00:21:26,578 --> 00:21:29,331
    and a population of prisoners   

403
00:21:29,372 --> 00:21:31,875
     that was 70 or more percent    

404
00:21:31,916 --> 00:21:34,586
            Black and brown.         

405
00:21:34,627 --> 00:21:36,254
          What could go wrong?       

406
00:21:41,176 --> 00:21:43,970
         Attica's reputation        
     was called "the last stop."    

407
00:21:44,012 --> 00:21:46,389
   This was the most strict prison 
      in the state of New York.     

408
00:21:46,431 --> 00:21:47,682
            It was known.           

409
00:21:47,724 --> 00:21:49,809
         The word was there         
      that when you got there,      

410
00:21:49,851 --> 00:21:51,186
    you know what you was in for.   

411
00:21:51,227 --> 00:21:53,563
    A hard place. The last place.   

412
00:21:53,605 --> 00:21:56,399
           The last place.          
     Attica was the last place.     

413
00:21:56,441 --> 00:21:58,234
    That was--that was the last--   

414
00:21:58,276 --> 00:22:01,029
   and you had to really be there   
             to see why.            

415
00:22:01,071 --> 00:22:04,366
      There was no Black guards     
             in Attica.             

416
00:22:04,407 --> 00:22:07,744
    There was no Spanish guards.    
        They were all white.        

417
00:22:07,786 --> 00:22:10,997
       People, man, that come       
    from the local neighborhoods,   

418
00:22:11,039 --> 00:22:15,043
    that don't know nothing about   
   people who come from Brooklyn,   

419
00:22:15,085 --> 00:22:18,755
   people who come from Manhattan, 
   people who come from The Bronx. 

420
00:22:18,797 --> 00:22:21,591
        They don't know nothing      
          about this culture.        

421
00:22:21,633 --> 00:22:24,344
        Most of them don't even      
          want to talk to you.       

422
00:22:24,386 --> 00:22:25,345
       They're you giving you       
           the straight--           

423
00:22:25,387 --> 00:22:27,097
         "Don't talk to me."        

424
00:22:27,138 --> 00:22:29,265
        And it was like that.       
         "Don't talk to me."        

425
00:22:29,307 --> 00:22:31,935
   They would hit that stick--bop. 

426
00:22:31,976 --> 00:22:35,772
        And this is a metal--       
        a metal-tipped stick,       

427
00:22:35,814 --> 00:22:37,899
   and it rings out, and it--bop.   

428
00:22:37,941 --> 00:22:39,567
            And you walk.           

429
00:22:39,609 --> 00:22:42,904
     And then when they want you    
     to stop, they say bop-bop.     

430
00:22:42,946 --> 00:22:44,948
    That was their communication.   

431
00:22:44,989 --> 00:22:47,659
      The only thing was right      
          was being white.          

432
00:22:47,700 --> 00:22:49,869
           And I mean that          
          in all sincerity.         

433
00:22:49,911 --> 00:22:51,955
      Everybody was sort of, like,   

434
00:22:51,996 --> 00:22:53,623
           not so much mixing        
          with other cultures,       

435
00:22:53,665 --> 00:22:57,710
        but staying together        
        for the purpose of...       

436
00:22:57,752 --> 00:22:59,379
              survival.             

437
00:22:59,421 --> 00:23:02,924
            I was white,            
       so I got the best jobs.      

438
00:23:02,966 --> 00:23:05,969
           I was always given        
        a little bit more leeway     

439
00:23:06,010 --> 00:23:07,512
            than the Blacks.         

440
00:23:09,305 --> 00:23:11,975
       I could get an extra meal     
            if I wanted one,         

441
00:23:12,016 --> 00:23:14,477
       because I was a white guy.    

442
00:23:14,519 --> 00:23:15,812
          "I'm a white guy.         

443
00:23:15,854 --> 00:23:17,439
              You know,             
      give me a little extra."      

444
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,232
            And I got it.           

445
00:23:19,274 --> 00:23:23,820
   I always was able to manipulate 
    the system inside the prison    

446
00:23:23,862 --> 00:23:25,613
     because I was a white guy.     

447
00:23:25,655 --> 00:23:27,907
      I'm almost ashamed to say     

448
00:23:27,949 --> 00:23:30,493
        that I took advantage       
         of that back then.         

449
00:23:30,535 --> 00:23:33,121
       But it was the only way      
             to survive.            

450
00:23:33,163 --> 00:23:34,372
       It really, really was.       

451
00:23:45,175 --> 00:23:46,801
             [Harrison]             
         A roll of toilet paper      

452
00:23:46,843 --> 00:23:49,888
         would have to last you      
                a month.             

453
00:23:49,929 --> 00:23:52,640
      You have to be a magician     
      or tear up papers out of,     

454
00:23:52,682 --> 00:23:54,225
              you know,             
    the books and stuff like that   

455
00:23:54,267 --> 00:23:55,477
         to wipe your behind        
        and stuff like that.        

456
00:23:55,518 --> 00:23:57,520
        Guys were complaining       
         about basic things,        

457
00:23:57,562 --> 00:24:01,733
   like toothpaste, toilet paper,   

458
00:24:01,774 --> 00:24:05,570
         a change of sheets         
       more than once a month,      

459
00:24:05,612 --> 00:24:08,698
         things like that--         
       clothes being cleaned,       

460
00:24:08,740 --> 00:24:10,200
        personal hygiene things,     

461
00:24:10,241 --> 00:24:11,701
             being treated           
           like human beings.        

462
00:24:13,995 --> 00:24:17,457
         No school program.         
            Attica was--            

463
00:24:17,499 --> 00:24:20,210
        I can't describe it.        
              I mean...             

464
00:24:20,251 --> 00:24:21,669
              it was dead.           

465
00:24:21,711 --> 00:24:22,921
           It was just dead.         

466
00:24:26,883 --> 00:24:28,718
        [Heath]   There was no        
           religious freedom,        

467
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,345
            particularly for         

468
00:24:30,386 --> 00:24:32,555
             the burgeoning          
            Muslim movement.         

469
00:24:32,597 --> 00:24:36,392
          They were denied          
        the right to worship.       

470
00:24:36,434 --> 00:24:39,979
     They were fed pork because     
     the prison also had a farm     

471
00:24:40,021 --> 00:24:43,024
       where they raised pigs,      
       so that's what you got.      

472
00:24:44,025 --> 00:24:46,277
               [Roche]              
       They fed us on 63¢ a day,     

473
00:24:46,319 --> 00:24:48,196
         so that's 21¢ a meal.       

474
00:24:48,238 --> 00:24:51,115
      How can you feed somebody     
               on 21¢?              

475
00:24:54,327 --> 00:24:58,665
   I swear to God, one time I got   
    my head opened up by a guard,   

476
00:24:58,706 --> 00:25:02,001
            and I was put           
      into a segregation cell.      

477
00:25:02,043 --> 00:25:03,628
        And the doctor came,        

478
00:25:03,670 --> 00:25:07,298
       you know, just out of--      
      I was bleeding all over.      

479
00:25:07,340 --> 00:25:09,384
        So I said, "I got a--       
        they cracked my head.       

480
00:25:09,425 --> 00:25:11,469
          It's wide open."          

481
00:25:11,511 --> 00:25:12,845
    He says, "Put it over here."    

482
00:25:12,887 --> 00:25:16,891
       They had a feeding hole      
            in the cell.            

483
00:25:16,933 --> 00:25:19,435
         So I put it there,         
   and he put a flashlight like--   

484
00:25:19,477 --> 00:25:21,938
      I swear to God, he hit me     
    with the fucking flashlight,    

485
00:25:21,980 --> 00:25:24,107
     right where the cut was...     

486
00:25:26,276 --> 00:25:27,610
         ...and walked away.        

487
00:25:27,652 --> 00:25:32,740
                                  

488
00:25:32,782 --> 00:25:34,450
              [Nieves]              
      They wait until everybody's    

489
00:25:34,492 --> 00:25:36,786
          locked up at night,        
      and then they come for you.    

490
00:25:36,828 --> 00:25:39,080
     Come for you as a goon squad.   

491
00:25:41,165 --> 00:25:44,335
              [Larkins]             
     These are the beat-up police.   

492
00:25:44,377 --> 00:25:47,672
           These the guys,          
      they come nine, ten deep.     

493
00:25:47,714 --> 00:25:51,384
            Real big guys           
        with real big sticks.       

494
00:25:51,426 --> 00:25:54,012
     Then they come in, and they    
      beat you up in your cell,     

495
00:25:54,053 --> 00:25:55,805
       and then they take you       
           to segregation,          

496
00:25:55,847 --> 00:25:57,390
           and sometimes,           
        you don't come back.        

497
00:25:57,432 --> 00:25:58,766
            Attica was...           

498
00:26:01,060 --> 00:26:02,812
             [stammers]             

499
00:26:05,231 --> 00:26:06,983
                Fear.               

500
00:26:07,025 --> 00:26:10,236
   They ran the prison with fear.   

501
00:26:10,278 --> 00:26:12,614
        Being scared of them        
           was their means          

502
00:26:12,655 --> 00:26:14,032
       of running the prison.       

503
00:26:18,745 --> 00:26:19,996
              [Victory]             
      You either shut your mouth,    

504
00:26:20,038 --> 00:26:21,831
      or you were in big trouble.    

505
00:26:23,291 --> 00:26:26,002
           Some people died.         

506
00:26:26,044 --> 00:26:27,837
          Some were crippled.        

507
00:26:27,879 --> 00:26:30,506
      Some were psychologically     
          damaged for life.         

508
00:26:33,676 --> 00:26:37,347
              And, uh,              
      it was a bad place to be.     

509
00:26:43,770 --> 00:26:47,482
      They wanted to institute      
        and instill that fear       

510
00:26:47,523 --> 00:26:50,151
     and that they were in control, 

511
00:26:50,193 --> 00:26:52,695
         even though they knew       
       they were losing control.     

512
00:26:55,406 --> 00:26:57,158
       [Larkins]   My generation      
         that came into Attica,      

513
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,285
             at that time,           

514
00:26:59,327 --> 00:27:01,454
   we felt that we wasn't broken.   

515
00:27:01,496 --> 00:27:03,748
           In other words,          
    we wasn't shuffling our feet.   

516
00:27:03,790 --> 00:27:06,209
            We would walk           
       with our heads up high.      

517
00:27:06,250 --> 00:27:08,086
   We would talk in our own lingo. 

518
00:27:08,127 --> 00:27:10,421
         We was rebellious.         
             That's all.            

519
00:27:10,463 --> 00:27:12,173
    We wasn't gonna take nothing    
            from nobody.            

520
00:27:13,299 --> 00:27:14,717
           We wanted respect.        

521
00:27:16,844 --> 00:27:20,098
       You had to give it to us,     
     whether you wanted to or not.   

522
00:27:20,139 --> 00:27:21,516
              [Asbury]              
      I'd read Eldridge Cleaver's    

523
00:27:21,557 --> 00:27:23,768
      Soul on Ice,   Huey Newton,     

524
00:27:23,810 --> 00:27:25,478
             and, you know,          
           the Panther Party,        

525
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,438
    and the George Jackson story.   

526
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,023
       I read all that stuff.       

527
00:27:29,065 --> 00:27:30,858
           George Jackson           
        was a revolutionary.        

528
00:27:30,900 --> 00:27:33,695
    He's the guy that got busted    
        for a ten dollar, uh,       

529
00:27:33,736 --> 00:27:36,572
         gas station robbery        
            and got life.           

530
00:27:36,614 --> 00:27:39,283
     He ended up in the system,     
       in the Soledad prison.       

531
00:27:39,325 --> 00:27:43,663
   He showed us--and I mean "us,"   

532
00:27:43,705 --> 00:27:46,416
          the younger guys          
       that came into Attica--      

533
00:27:46,457 --> 00:27:49,544
     that it was okay to say no.    

534
00:27:49,585 --> 00:27:53,089
    It was okay to be rebellious.   

535
00:27:53,131 --> 00:27:55,550
             Understand,            
      there may be consequences     

536
00:27:55,591 --> 00:27:58,136
            to saying no,           

537
00:27:58,177 --> 00:28:00,138
          but it was okay.          

538
00:28:00,179 --> 00:28:02,140
        And it was uplifting.       

539
00:28:02,181 --> 00:28:04,267
          It was uplifting.         

540
00:28:04,308 --> 00:28:06,769
   [George Jackson]   I think racism 
          is a control device,       

541
00:28:06,811 --> 00:28:08,980
           control mechanism.        

542
00:28:09,021 --> 00:28:12,567
          Create an atmosphere       
     whereby they can control you.   

543
00:28:12,608 --> 00:28:16,446
     Of course, here in prison,     
       we see the repression,       

544
00:28:16,487 --> 00:28:18,406
          the exploitation,         

545
00:28:18,448 --> 00:28:21,576
      the victimization of, uh,     

546
00:28:21,617 --> 00:28:23,453
        lower-class peoples.        

547
00:28:24,912 --> 00:28:26,330
             [Sheppard]             
        A lot of Black Panthers      

548
00:28:26,372 --> 00:28:28,249
      were coming into the prison.   

549
00:28:28,291 --> 00:28:29,751
         I started hanging out       
               with them,            

550
00:28:29,792 --> 00:28:32,253
        and they politicized me.     

551
00:28:32,295 --> 00:28:33,755
       The Black Panther Party      
          for Self-Defense          

552
00:28:33,796 --> 00:28:35,965
   calls upon the American people   
             in general             

553
00:28:36,007 --> 00:28:37,675
        and the Black people        
            in particular           

554
00:28:37,717 --> 00:28:40,928
        to take careful note        
    of the racist police agencies   

555
00:28:40,970 --> 00:28:43,890
       throughout the country       
    are intensifying the terror,    

556
00:28:43,931 --> 00:28:46,809
         brutality, murder,         
   and repression of Black people. 

557
00:28:46,851 --> 00:28:48,603
             Of course,             
     you had the Black Muslims,     

558
00:28:48,644 --> 00:28:51,522
   and his message to a Black man   

559
00:28:51,564 --> 00:28:55,610
     really awoke a lot of guys     
         that were in jail.         

560
00:28:55,651 --> 00:28:57,528
         We want one thing!         

561
00:28:57,570 --> 00:29:01,616
        We declare our right        
     on this Earth to be a man,     

562
00:29:01,657 --> 00:29:03,493
        to be a human being,        

563
00:29:03,534 --> 00:29:05,578
           to be respected          
          as a human being,         

564
00:29:05,620 --> 00:29:07,914
       to be given the rights       
          of a human being          

565
00:29:07,955 --> 00:29:11,250
          in this society,          
     on this Earth, in this day,    

566
00:29:11,292 --> 00:29:13,795
           which we intend          
       to bring into existence      

567
00:29:13,836 --> 00:29:16,672
       by any means necessary!      

568
00:29:16,714 --> 00:29:19,008
        [cheers and applause]       

569
00:29:21,260 --> 00:29:22,762
             [reporter]             
       Officials at California's     

570
00:29:22,804 --> 00:29:24,597
           San Quentin Prison        
            still are trying         

571
00:29:24,639 --> 00:29:27,058
          to piece together         
    exactly what happened and how   

572
00:29:27,099 --> 00:29:29,268
          in that attempted         
       prison break yesterday       

573
00:29:29,310 --> 00:29:32,438
       in which three convicts      
       and three guards died.       

574
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,774
      One of the dead convicts      
         was George Jackson         

575
00:29:34,816 --> 00:29:36,943
           of the self-styled        
           Soledad Brothers.         

576
00:29:36,984 --> 00:29:39,028
            Jackson was 29.          

577
00:29:39,070 --> 00:29:41,030
      [Harrison]   George Jackson     
      was that final straw to say,   

578
00:29:41,072 --> 00:29:42,740
     "I don't give a fuck no more.   

579
00:29:42,782 --> 00:29:44,826
    They're gonna kill us anyway.   
          We can't get out.         

580
00:29:44,867 --> 00:29:47,203
     We're in this fucking cage,    
        so where we going at?       

581
00:29:47,245 --> 00:29:50,039
         So if we gonna die,        
         let's die as men."         

582
00:29:50,081 --> 00:29:51,707
            And brothers            
        just got frustrated.        

583
00:29:55,503 --> 00:30:00,007
     We'd go into the mess hall     
    with a Black band on your arm   

584
00:30:00,049 --> 00:30:01,217
         and just sit there.        

585
00:30:01,259 --> 00:30:03,344
   Take a spoon when you come in.   

586
00:30:03,386 --> 00:30:05,096
            Take no food.           

587
00:30:05,137 --> 00:30:09,392
           We didn't speak          
       during the whole time,       

588
00:30:09,433 --> 00:30:11,727
   and we didn't pick up any food. 

589
00:30:12,311 --> 00:30:15,356
           That, I think,           
   kind of alerted the institution 

590
00:30:15,398 --> 00:30:18,776
     that we was in solidarity.     

591
00:30:18,818 --> 00:30:22,780
     They'd probably never seen     
   that type of solidarity before. 

592
00:30:22,822 --> 00:30:25,658
      apprehensive music playing  

593
00:30:25,700 --> 00:30:29,829
                                  

594
00:30:29,871 --> 00:30:34,542
       There was a lot of talk      
      discussing the situation,     

595
00:30:34,584 --> 00:30:38,754
         because the inmates        
          were very upset,          

596
00:30:38,796 --> 00:30:41,465
           and things were          
          happening there,          

597
00:30:41,507 --> 00:30:45,261
    and there was great concern.    

598
00:30:45,303 --> 00:30:47,346
         It was a time bomb         
           ready to blow,           

599
00:30:47,388 --> 00:30:49,765
        and we lived with it        
       every day in my house,       

600
00:30:49,807 --> 00:30:52,101
           and every day,           
     I said good-bye to my dad,     

601
00:30:52,143 --> 00:30:54,437
         and I knew it might be      
        the last day I saw him.      

602
00:30:54,478 --> 00:30:56,480
       It was open conversation.     

603
00:31:01,068 --> 00:31:02,737
           [Quinn Miller]           
       Things were getting worse.    

604
00:31:02,778 --> 00:31:05,781
       And so they had a meeting     
        with the administration,     

605
00:31:05,823 --> 00:31:07,617
         and the administration      
         essentially dismissed       

606
00:31:07,658 --> 00:31:11,954
      their concerns and said,      
      "Everybody back to work.      

607
00:31:11,996 --> 00:31:13,956
          However, we think         
       maybe it's a good idea       

608
00:31:13,998 --> 00:31:15,791
      if you left your personal     
         belongings at home,        

609
00:31:15,833 --> 00:31:18,127
         like wedding rings,        
        wallets, et cetera."        

610
00:31:18,169 --> 00:31:21,756
    So my father absolutely knew    
    that something was going on.    

611
00:31:21,797 --> 00:31:24,759
   I was having breakfast with him 
      and he was talking to me.     

612
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,677
     And I knew he was nervous.     

613
00:31:26,719 --> 00:31:28,179
              But he said,           
      "Something's gonna happen."    

614
00:31:28,220 --> 00:31:30,681
      He said, "I just don't know    
             what or when.           

615
00:31:30,723 --> 00:31:32,516
       But I think I'll be okay."    

616
00:31:36,812 --> 00:31:41,442
      [Heath]   There was a fight     
      in A yard on September 8th.    

617
00:31:41,484 --> 00:31:42,610
        And the guards promised      
          nothing would happen       

618
00:31:42,652 --> 00:31:44,028
          as a result of this,       

619
00:31:44,070 --> 00:31:47,573
       because they could feel      
      the tension building up.      

620
00:31:47,615 --> 00:31:49,825
          Then that night,          
      they broke that promise.      

621
00:31:49,867 --> 00:31:53,037
      They came and pulled them     
       out of the cells, and--      

622
00:31:53,079 --> 00:31:56,499
    about three or four of them,    
             and then...            

623
00:31:58,626 --> 00:32:00,127
           Then we started          
          throwing bottles          

624
00:32:00,169 --> 00:32:01,796
          or whatever glass         
         they may have had,         

625
00:32:01,837 --> 00:32:03,589
        or cans, or whatever        
         they may have had,         

626
00:32:03,631 --> 00:32:05,633
      and it was a disturbance,     
             that there.            

627
00:32:05,675 --> 00:32:08,469
       So the inmates decided       
           at that moment,          

628
00:32:08,511 --> 00:32:10,972
       "Man, this is it, man.       
              We tired.             

629
00:32:11,013 --> 00:32:12,431
         I mean, they killed        
           George Jackson.          

630
00:32:12,473 --> 00:32:13,641
            They did this           
        throughout the years.       

631
00:32:13,683 --> 00:32:14,934
             We tired."             

632
00:32:14,976 --> 00:32:16,644
    You know? And they went off.    

633
00:32:16,686 --> 00:32:19,605
          [sirens wailing]          

634
00:32:27,071 --> 00:32:29,657
      I was in school that day,     

635
00:32:29,699 --> 00:32:33,411
   and the whistle from the prison 
          just kept going,          

636
00:32:33,452 --> 00:32:35,371
        and we could hear it.       

637
00:32:35,413 --> 00:32:37,748
     [Jaime Valone]   We got calls    
     from somebody from the prison   

638
00:32:37,790 --> 00:32:39,208
              saying that            
          "Your dad, you know,       

639
00:32:39,250 --> 00:32:40,793
       is definitely being held."    

640
00:32:40,835 --> 00:32:43,170
       You know, I was scared.      
      I was worried for my dad.     

641
00:32:43,212 --> 00:32:44,964
           I loved my dad.          

642
00:32:45,006 --> 00:32:48,968
       But we didn't really know     
           what was going on.        

643
00:32:49,010 --> 00:32:50,469
          [Elliot Barkley]          
             It seems to be          

644
00:32:50,511 --> 00:32:53,264
       a little misunderstanding     
               about why             

645
00:32:53,305 --> 00:32:55,474
        this incident developed      
            here at Attica,          

646
00:32:55,516 --> 00:32:58,352
      and this declaration here     
      will explain the reasons.     

647
00:32:58,394 --> 00:33:03,065
         The entire incident        
   that has erupted here at Attica 

648
00:33:03,107 --> 00:33:05,901
           is not a result          
    of the dastardly bushwhacking   

649
00:33:05,943 --> 00:33:10,406
        of the two prisoners        
       September 8th of 1971,       

650
00:33:10,448 --> 00:33:12,700
       but of the unmitigated       
             oppression             

651
00:33:12,742 --> 00:33:14,869
        wrought by the racist       
       administrative network       

652
00:33:14,910 --> 00:33:17,413
           of this prison           
        throughout the years.       

653
00:33:17,455 --> 00:33:19,248
        We want the governor        
            to guarantee            

654
00:33:19,290 --> 00:33:21,542
         that there will be         
            no reprisals,           

655
00:33:21,584 --> 00:33:24,170
       and we want all facets       
            of the media            

656
00:33:24,211 --> 00:33:26,589
         to articulate this.        

657
00:33:26,630 --> 00:33:29,258
    We needed the media in there    
          because we needed         

658
00:33:29,300 --> 00:33:31,927
        to let the world know       
         what was happening.        

659
00:33:33,637 --> 00:33:36,432
       [Schwartz]   This is one       
         of the turning points       

660
00:33:36,474 --> 00:33:37,767
          in the whole thing.        

661
00:33:40,686 --> 00:33:43,022
        We would like the press      
              to come in,            

662
00:33:43,064 --> 00:33:46,484
               including             
        the television cameras.      

663
00:33:48,110 --> 00:33:51,280
   That transformed everything...   

664
00:33:53,324 --> 00:33:57,286
    ...because now the prisoners    
      had a worldwide audience.     

665
00:33:59,538 --> 00:34:02,083
        Whatever happens here       
      at Attica State Prison...     

666
00:34:02,124 --> 00:34:03,918
      I'm not sure how they heard    

667
00:34:03,959 --> 00:34:07,379
           that there was           
     a Black journalist outside,    

668
00:34:07,421 --> 00:34:10,299
         that they wanted me        

669
00:34:10,341 --> 00:34:14,470
         to be on the group         
      that went in with Oswald.     

670
00:34:14,512 --> 00:34:17,556
         Suddenly, I'm on--         
           in this group,           

671
00:34:17,598 --> 00:34:19,767
       going into the prison,       

672
00:34:19,809 --> 00:34:23,771
           with this head           
        of the prison system.       

673
00:34:23,813 --> 00:34:27,650
        I was surprised that        
       they had asked for me.       

674
00:34:27,691 --> 00:34:30,319
   But I guess because of the fact 

675
00:34:30,361 --> 00:34:33,405
   that they had watched the news, 

676
00:34:33,447 --> 00:34:36,408
      my reports were factual,      

677
00:34:36,450 --> 00:34:40,162
            and I was not           
        taking anybody's side       

678
00:34:40,204 --> 00:34:41,497
         in the whole thing.        

679
00:34:44,166 --> 00:34:46,085
              [Johnson]             
              We went in,            

680
00:34:46,127 --> 00:34:50,714
     and it was completely surreal. 

681
00:34:50,756 --> 00:34:53,551
          Like, you're walking       
             down a tunnel,          

682
00:34:53,592 --> 00:34:57,721
            and suddenly,           
    you walk into this huge yard    

683
00:34:57,763 --> 00:34:59,974
          where there are men        
              everywhere--           

684
00:35:00,015 --> 00:35:03,310
        like, thousands of men.      

685
00:35:03,352 --> 00:35:06,397
             And I remember          

686
00:35:06,438 --> 00:35:09,608
          some people yelling,       
               "Hey, JJ."            

687
00:35:09,650 --> 00:35:12,486
       I said hello to people       
             that I knew            

688
00:35:12,528 --> 00:35:17,199
      from Bed-Stuy and Harlem,     
      and they were in Attica.      

689
00:35:21,245 --> 00:35:23,205
         [Dan]   Once inside,         
         we were brought along       

690
00:35:23,247 --> 00:35:25,875
     through the yard with a member 
      of the inmate security force   

691
00:35:25,916 --> 00:35:28,210
        constantly at our side.      

692
00:35:28,252 --> 00:35:31,046
         We were allowed to go       
       where they told us to go.     

693
00:35:31,088 --> 00:35:32,673
        We were allowed to film      

694
00:35:32,715 --> 00:35:35,217
        only when the prisoners      
           told us we could.         

695
00:35:35,259 --> 00:35:36,719
      Inmates' faces were covered    

696
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,221
             so as to keep           
        their identities secret.     

697
00:35:39,263 --> 00:35:41,348
     Our first concern on entering   

698
00:35:41,390 --> 00:35:43,684
              was to learn           
         how the hostages were.      

699
00:35:43,726 --> 00:35:44,852
              [Oswald]              
    We want to see your hostages.   

700
00:35:44,894 --> 00:35:46,228
      Show the hostages first.      

701
00:35:46,270 --> 00:35:51,025
   I was able to ask one question   

702
00:35:51,066 --> 00:35:55,112
           before I was moved        
       to the negotiation table.     

703
00:35:55,154 --> 00:35:56,655
       Been treated all right?      

704
00:35:56,697 --> 00:35:58,282
         Yes, I have so far         
       been treated very good.      

705
00:35:58,324 --> 00:35:59,575
        -[Dan] No complaints?       
                -No.                

706
00:35:59,617 --> 00:36:01,493
                [Dan]               
       But no problems so far?      

707
00:36:01,535 --> 00:36:04,205
   So far, been treated very good. 

708
00:36:04,246 --> 00:36:07,499
         Shortly thereafter,        
         one of the inmates,        

709
00:36:07,541 --> 00:36:11,795
             a young man            
    by the name of L.D. Barkley,    

710
00:36:11,837 --> 00:36:14,798
    started to read the demands.    

711
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,842
    The entire prison populace--    

712
00:36:16,884 --> 00:36:19,136
      that means each and every     
          one of us here--          

713
00:36:19,178 --> 00:36:22,264
           have set forth           
          to change forever         

714
00:36:22,306 --> 00:36:24,225
     the ruthless brutalization     

715
00:36:24,266 --> 00:36:26,894
     and disregard for the lives    
        of the prisoners here       

716
00:36:26,936 --> 00:36:28,854
           and throughout           
         the United States.         

717
00:36:28,896 --> 00:36:31,899
      He was saying what we all     
          wanted to scream.         

718
00:36:31,941 --> 00:36:33,859
      But he was explaining it      

719
00:36:33,901 --> 00:36:35,903
          so that everybody         
          could understand,         

720
00:36:35,945 --> 00:36:38,405
    so that when you were sitting   
        in your living room,        

721
00:36:38,447 --> 00:36:40,783
           you could say,           
    "Well, the guy's a criminal.    

722
00:36:40,824 --> 00:36:42,743
       Yeah, but he is saying       
         something that's...        

723
00:36:45,955 --> 00:36:48,499
        ...that I understand.       
       How could we do that?"       

724
00:36:48,540 --> 00:36:51,502
              You know?             
      He was waking up America.     

725
00:36:51,543 --> 00:36:52,962
       And he was the best one      
              to do it.             

726
00:36:53,796 --> 00:36:55,839
             We are men!            

727
00:36:55,881 --> 00:36:58,092
         We are not beasts,         
        and we do not intend        

728
00:36:58,133 --> 00:37:00,261
   to be beaten or driven as such. 

729
00:37:00,302 --> 00:37:02,763
      LD was only gonna be here     
            for 90 days.            

730
00:37:02,805 --> 00:37:04,265
        He'll be getting out.       

731
00:37:04,306 --> 00:37:06,642
   But he wanted the outside world 
           to know that...          

732
00:37:08,769 --> 00:37:10,729
    ...the prisons were inhumane.   

733
00:37:10,771 --> 00:37:13,732
       What has happened here       
          is but the sound          

734
00:37:13,774 --> 00:37:16,902
      before the fury of those      
         who are oppressed.         

735
00:37:16,944 --> 00:37:19,738
       We will not compromise       
            on any terms            

736
00:37:19,780 --> 00:37:23,492
         except those terms         
      that are agreeable to us.     

737
00:37:23,534 --> 00:37:25,202
          We call upon all...        

738
00:37:25,244 --> 00:37:28,038
        [prisoners shouting]        

739
00:37:29,581 --> 00:37:31,458
              [Larkins]             
              You felt it.           

740
00:37:34,169 --> 00:37:38,924
         And at that moment,        
     I heard it, and I seen it.     

741
00:37:38,966 --> 00:37:42,636
         And that reaffirmed        
          why we was there.         

742
00:37:42,678 --> 00:37:44,346
            Why I was there.         

743
00:37:48,267 --> 00:37:51,061
         There was a feeling        
         that this was big.         

744
00:37:51,103 --> 00:37:52,771
           This was huge.           

745
00:37:57,026 --> 00:37:59,486
   Corrections Commissioner Oswald 

746
00:37:59,528 --> 00:38:04,408
     maintained that he had done    

747
00:38:04,450 --> 00:38:07,036
      quite a bit of the things     

748
00:38:07,077 --> 00:38:10,205
   that the inmates had requested. 

749
00:38:10,247 --> 00:38:14,543
         I've, uh, complied         

750
00:38:14,585 --> 00:38:18,589
       with the several things      
    I said I would do as my part.   

751
00:38:18,630 --> 00:38:20,591
       I've brought the press       

752
00:38:20,632 --> 00:38:24,094
       and other media in here      

753
00:38:24,136 --> 00:38:25,888
        to listen as we talk.       

754
00:38:25,929 --> 00:38:28,474
      And now, my question is--     

755
00:38:28,515 --> 00:38:31,435
          I asked earlier,          

756
00:38:31,477 --> 00:38:33,270
         when will you release       
             the hostages?           

757
00:38:35,522 --> 00:38:38,192
              [Nieves]              
     But now, the table was turned, 

758
00:38:38,233 --> 00:38:41,528
         and we had the power.       

759
00:38:41,570 --> 00:38:43,155
          So when we asked him       
             for something,          

760
00:38:43,197 --> 00:38:44,907
        he had to give it to us      

761
00:38:44,948 --> 00:38:46,450
        'cause he didn't have       
             no choice.             

762
00:38:46,492 --> 00:38:48,660
      We wanted some assurance      

763
00:38:48,702 --> 00:38:52,539
      that we weren't gonna be      
         retaliated against.        

764
00:38:52,581 --> 00:38:54,917
     So we asked Herman Schwartz    

765
00:38:54,958 --> 00:38:58,796
       to go to District Court      
             in New York            

766
00:38:58,837 --> 00:39:03,342
        and get an injunction       
        that would assure us        

767
00:39:03,384 --> 00:39:05,719
         that we wouldn't be        
         retaliated against.        

768
00:39:05,761 --> 00:39:09,973
        I sat down and wrote        
            an injunction           

769
00:39:10,015 --> 00:39:13,769
            which barred            
      any kind of retaliation.      

770
00:39:14,895 --> 00:39:16,897
           It had been agreed        
          that there would be        

771
00:39:16,939 --> 00:39:18,941
            another meeting          
           the next morning.         

772
00:39:21,110 --> 00:39:23,278
     [reporter]   The time is now     
         ten minutes of eight.       

773
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,615
     We've been shooting this tape   
      for approximately two hours.   

774
00:39:26,657 --> 00:39:28,450
       We started about 6:00 p.m.    

775
00:39:30,536 --> 00:39:32,746
     The light is almost gone now.   

776
00:39:32,788 --> 00:39:36,708
           We can see lights         
            in cell block D.         

777
00:39:36,750 --> 00:39:39,711
          singers vocalizing       

778
00:39:39,753 --> 00:39:42,548
         soulful doo-wop music      
               playing              

779
00:39:42,589 --> 00:39:45,342
                                  

780
00:39:45,384 --> 00:39:48,053
     [Roche]   The guy next to me     
        was named Raymond White.     

781
00:39:50,389 --> 00:39:53,308
       He was walking around,       
       looking up in the air.       

782
00:39:53,350 --> 00:39:55,811
             It's dark.             
     I said, "Yo, Raymond White.    

783
00:39:55,853 --> 00:39:58,939
      Yo, Ray, you all right?"      

784
00:39:58,981 --> 00:40:03,152
   He said, "Man, I ain't been out 
      after dark in 22 years."      

785
00:40:05,696 --> 00:40:06,905
             [Killebrew]            
          And we was talking,        

786
00:40:06,947 --> 00:40:10,117
            singing songs--          
        it was a festive night.      

787
00:40:10,159 --> 00:40:11,160
       I loved it. I loved it.      

788
00:40:11,201 --> 00:40:13,454
           Man, I was out           
          in the nighttime,         

789
00:40:13,495 --> 00:40:15,038
        looking at the stars.       

790
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,582
      I was drunk. I was happy.     

791
00:40:16,623 --> 00:40:18,167
    You know, I was--I liked it,    
              you know.             

792
00:40:18,208 --> 00:40:19,626
      I was having a good time.     

793
00:40:19,668 --> 00:40:22,546
    And it was good. I felt free.   

794
00:40:22,588 --> 00:40:24,214
          You know, I mean,         
          prison was there,         

795
00:40:24,256 --> 00:40:26,425
     but, you know, I felt free.    

796
00:40:26,467 --> 00:40:29,261
        I didn't have to hear       

797
00:40:29,303 --> 00:40:31,722
         the doors locking.         

798
00:40:31,763 --> 00:40:33,640
    And if--it was a good feeling   

799
00:40:33,682 --> 00:40:37,186
          at that first night.       

800
00:40:37,227 --> 00:40:39,813
     [Asbury]   When it got dark,     
       and everybody was talking     

801
00:40:39,855 --> 00:40:41,482
        about finding somewhere      
               to sleep--            

802
00:40:41,523 --> 00:40:43,317
             but, you know,          
           don't sleep alone,        

803
00:40:43,358 --> 00:40:45,068
             and, you know,          
          that type of thing.        

804
00:40:45,110 --> 00:40:47,946
    There's a lot of psychopaths    
           and sociopaths           

805
00:40:47,988 --> 00:40:49,990
        in those facilities,        
            so, you know,           

806
00:40:50,032 --> 00:40:53,994
     you had to protect yourself    
       from your peers, even.       

807
00:40:54,036 --> 00:40:58,874
                                  

808
00:41:01,502 --> 00:41:03,378
     [Sharif]   I knew this wasn't    
          gonna last forever.        

809
00:41:05,255 --> 00:41:09,384
          I knew there would--       
     there would be an end to this. 

810
00:41:09,426 --> 00:41:10,886
          But just because          
         we was incarcerated        

811
00:41:10,928 --> 00:41:13,722
      didn't mean that we were      
          less than human.          

812
00:41:16,058 --> 00:41:18,060
     Somebody had to take a stand.   

813
00:41:22,898 --> 00:41:25,776
       foreboding music playing    

814
00:41:25,817 --> 00:41:28,028
                                  

815
00:41:28,070 --> 00:41:30,364
    [reporter]   At dawn, as smoke    
         from yesterday's fires      

816
00:41:30,405 --> 00:41:32,032
      lingered over prison walls,    

817
00:41:32,074 --> 00:41:34,117
          a federal injunction       
              was obtained           

818
00:41:34,159 --> 00:41:36,078
     prohibiting physical reprisal   

819
00:41:36,119 --> 00:41:37,621
         against those involved      
              in the riot.           

820
00:41:39,540 --> 00:41:42,668
    [Schwartz]   When I brought in    
            the injunction,          

821
00:41:42,709 --> 00:41:46,713
       we talked to the prisoners    
            at opposite ends         

822
00:41:46,755 --> 00:41:50,634
        of a rather long tunnel.     

823
00:41:50,676 --> 00:41:53,303
             They said,             
   "Where are the administrators?" 

824
00:41:53,345 --> 00:41:54,888
       I said, "I don't know.       

825
00:41:54,930 --> 00:41:56,974
     I'm here, but I don't know     
          where they are."          

826
00:41:57,015 --> 00:42:01,144
        Finally, at ten o'clock,     
     Oswald and the others show up. 

827
00:42:03,313 --> 00:42:05,440
     The prisoners were furious.    

828
00:42:05,482 --> 00:42:10,445
           They had been,           
    as they would put it, dissed.   

829
00:42:10,487 --> 00:42:12,614
     They were supposed to meet     
     at seven or eight o'clock,     

830
00:42:12,656 --> 00:42:16,118
       and it was very clear--      

831
00:42:16,159 --> 00:42:18,036
        the air was very tense.      

832
00:42:19,997 --> 00:42:23,625
     You had the tables spread out. 

833
00:42:23,667 --> 00:42:26,461
          We were on one side.       

834
00:42:26,503 --> 00:42:30,632
     The inmates were on the other. 

835
00:42:30,674 --> 00:42:33,760
      And I gave them the document   
       that the judge had signed.    

836
00:42:33,802 --> 00:42:37,472
          This is nothing.          

837
00:42:37,514 --> 00:42:40,892
        [Schwartz] I'm sorry,       
      I spent seven hours of--      

838
00:42:40,934 --> 00:42:43,687
          and got no sleep,         
           and traveled...          

839
00:42:43,729 --> 00:42:46,440
     He claimed that the federal    
          judge signed off          

840
00:42:46,481 --> 00:42:50,235
    on an injunction saying that    
    there would be no reprisals.    

841
00:42:50,277 --> 00:42:55,073
        And he came back in,        
         waving that at us,         

842
00:42:55,115 --> 00:42:57,367
       and Jerry the Jew said,      
         "Where's the seal?"        

843
00:42:57,409 --> 00:43:00,370
      There is no judicial seal     
              on this.              

844
00:43:00,412 --> 00:43:04,291
     I have received injunctions    
     from the Southern District     

845
00:43:04,333 --> 00:43:06,084
      which had judicial seals.     

846
00:43:06,126 --> 00:43:08,503
   This paper is an empty gesture. 

847
00:43:08,545 --> 00:43:11,089
      [Larkins]   Jerry the Jew.      
         That was his nickname.      

848
00:43:11,131 --> 00:43:13,842
           Jerry Rosenberg          
        was a hell of a guy.        

849
00:43:13,884 --> 00:43:15,510
     And he was well-respected.     

850
00:43:15,552 --> 00:43:18,013
        He had a law degree.        

851
00:43:18,055 --> 00:43:20,682
          And he knew law.          
   He would help all the inmates.   

852
00:43:20,724 --> 00:43:22,893
     He was a jailhouse lawyer.     

853
00:43:23,477 --> 00:43:26,938
       You can take this piece      
     of paper and throw it away,    

854
00:43:26,980 --> 00:43:28,357
   because this is no protection.   

855
00:43:28,398 --> 00:43:31,026
   Jerry Rosenberg, God bless him, 

856
00:43:31,068 --> 00:43:34,863
              say, uh,              
      "Judge ain't signed this.     

857
00:43:34,905 --> 00:43:38,867
             There's no             
    Western District Court stamp    

858
00:43:38,909 --> 00:43:42,079
    on this document saying that,   
           you know what,           

859
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:46,875
     nothing will happen to us,"    
           and tore it up.          

860
00:43:46,917 --> 00:43:49,086
   Herman, we know you mean well,   

861
00:43:49,127 --> 00:43:51,922
         but, uh, don't come        
      with the bullshit, Herm.      

862
00:43:51,963 --> 00:43:53,965
       We want a judicial seal      

863
00:43:54,007 --> 00:43:56,051
          and a continuing          
          restraining order         

864
00:43:56,093 --> 00:43:58,553
        until the litigation        
          is finally ended,         

865
00:43:58,595 --> 00:44:00,972
        without any reprisals       
            or brutality            

866
00:44:01,014 --> 00:44:03,475
         against any inmates        
        of this institution.        

867
00:44:03,517 --> 00:44:06,395
        [prisoners cheering]        

868
00:44:13,777 --> 00:44:16,905
    Well, lawyers know that seals   

869
00:44:16,947 --> 00:44:19,366
        don't mean anything,        

870
00:44:19,408 --> 00:44:22,494
    uh, so long as the signature    
              is there.             

871
00:44:23,286 --> 00:44:25,747
            I could have            
         kicked Jerry's ass.        

872
00:44:25,789 --> 00:44:27,916
         And I should have.         

873
00:44:27,958 --> 00:44:32,212
       Really, 'cause he just       
       started to grandstand.       

874
00:44:32,254 --> 00:44:34,631
     You know, he was caught up     
           in the moment.           

875
00:44:37,300 --> 00:44:40,137
            Smart as he is,          
        and as shrewd as he is,      

876
00:44:40,178 --> 00:44:42,848
            he overreacted,          

877
00:44:42,889 --> 00:44:45,475
              and we lost            
         an opportunity there.       

878
00:44:45,517 --> 00:44:49,187
       And then somebody said,      
          "Let's hold them.         

879
00:44:49,229 --> 00:44:51,732
              Let's add             
       to the hostage count."       

880
00:44:54,317 --> 00:44:57,863
    [inmate] I hope I'm speaking    
       for every brother here.      

881
00:44:57,904 --> 00:45:00,323
       I want to address this       
           to you, Oswald.          

882
00:45:00,365 --> 00:45:02,993
          You come in here          
         popping that game.         

883
00:45:03,034 --> 00:45:04,369
    I know you don't give a fuck    

884
00:45:04,411 --> 00:45:05,787
      about none of them hacks      
             out there.             

885
00:45:05,829 --> 00:45:07,080
     Let me tell you something.     

886
00:45:07,122 --> 00:45:09,207
   I don't give a fuck about you.   
              Nothing.              

887
00:45:09,249 --> 00:45:11,168
    I know them people don't mean   
           nothing to you.          

888
00:45:11,209 --> 00:45:12,961
              Nothing.              

889
00:45:13,003 --> 00:45:15,380
      And I'ma tell you before      
    you leave here--if you leave.   

890
00:45:15,422 --> 00:45:19,092
     Mr. Oswald, it seems to me     
      that you weren't honest.      

891
00:45:19,134 --> 00:45:23,305
   It seems to me that you weren't 
      honest at prevarications.     

892
00:45:23,346 --> 00:45:26,808
           I bear witness           
   to your evil deeds, Mr. Oswald. 

893
00:45:26,850 --> 00:45:30,270
           Now, I repeat,           
      as I told you yesterday,      

894
00:45:30,312 --> 00:45:32,731
    we're being lenient with you.   

895
00:45:32,773 --> 00:45:35,734
         We're negotiating.         
           We are talking.          

896
00:45:35,776 --> 00:45:38,904
          We shouldn't be.          
       We should be demanding.      

897
00:45:38,945 --> 00:45:40,238
                Why?                

898
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,992
      Because we have 35 lives,     
            not hostages.           

899
00:45:44,034 --> 00:45:46,244
      And I repeat, Mr. Oswald,     

900
00:45:46,286 --> 00:45:49,790
        a moment's hesitation       
     will cause you their lives.    

901
00:45:49,831 --> 00:45:52,959
        [Nieves]   The meeting        
       in the yard got very tense    

902
00:45:53,001 --> 00:45:55,629
             because Oswald          
           would talk to you         

903
00:45:55,670 --> 00:45:57,631
      from one side of his mouth,    

904
00:45:57,672 --> 00:46:00,008
     and then when he left the yard 
            and go outside,          

905
00:46:00,050 --> 00:46:01,843
      he talks from the other side   
             of the mouth.           

906
00:46:01,885 --> 00:46:03,053
             [reporter]             
        Have the inmates made       

907
00:46:03,094 --> 00:46:04,721
    any demands that you know of?   

908
00:46:04,763 --> 00:46:06,264
         There are all kinds        
        of demands, you know,       

909
00:46:06,306 --> 00:46:09,142
         for the change in--        
     change in the whole world.     

910
00:46:09,184 --> 00:46:13,980
     But what he forgot was that    
      he was being seen on TV.      

911
00:46:14,022 --> 00:46:18,318
   Come on. How could he do that?   
         We're watching you.        

912
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,029
     [inmate]   And you stated it     
      yesterday on the news media,   

913
00:46:21,071 --> 00:46:22,781
         in a huff, in a panic.      

914
00:46:22,823 --> 00:46:24,783
    You said, "Well, I don't know   
           what they want.          

915
00:46:24,825 --> 00:46:26,868
        They want the world."       
     And you left it like that.     

916
00:46:26,910 --> 00:46:28,161
           You walked away          
         from the reporters.        

917
00:46:28,203 --> 00:46:29,871
      Would you reply to that,      
             Mr. Oswald?            

918
00:46:29,913 --> 00:46:31,540
              [Oswald]              
        Yes, I did say that.        

919
00:46:31,581 --> 00:46:32,666
     [inmate] No, we didn't ask     
    you that, because we didn't--   

920
00:46:32,707 --> 00:46:33,875
              [inmate]              
       Let him finish, please.      

921
00:46:33,917 --> 00:46:35,377
              [Oswald]              
           I did say that.          

922
00:46:35,418 --> 00:46:37,295
              [Larkins]             
     Can't bullshit a bullshitter.   

923
00:46:37,337 --> 00:46:39,214
           You can't do that.        

924
00:46:39,256 --> 00:46:41,675
     The first time he came in,     
           "I'ma do this,           

925
00:46:41,716 --> 00:46:45,345
        A, B, C, D, E, F, G,"       
        and people was happy.       

926
00:46:45,387 --> 00:46:47,097
       "All right, go on about      
    your business, get it done."    

927
00:46:47,138 --> 00:46:50,517
      Came back in and started      
         talking, you know--        

928
00:46:50,559 --> 00:46:52,143
       you know, he was going       
          roundabout there          

929
00:46:52,185 --> 00:46:53,854
        and roundabout there,       
           and they said,           

930
00:46:53,895 --> 00:46:56,314
   "No, don't let the hostages go. 

931
00:46:56,356 --> 00:46:58,149
        All right, how about        
         you be a hostage?"         

932
00:46:58,191 --> 00:47:03,071
    We have been asking for over    
    29 hours for food and water.    

933
00:47:03,113 --> 00:47:05,490
        We haven't got none.        
   We're gonna keep Mr. Russell--   

934
00:47:05,532 --> 00:47:07,117
       Russell G. Oswald here       

935
00:47:07,158 --> 00:47:08,660
            until we get            
        some food and water.        

936
00:47:08,702 --> 00:47:10,745
         [inmates cheering]         

937
00:47:10,787 --> 00:47:12,163
      [Victory]   "No, we're not      
        letting him out of here.     

938
00:47:12,205 --> 00:47:14,082
      We're keeping him hostage."    

939
00:47:14,124 --> 00:47:16,293
     We all--we shut that down.     

940
00:47:16,334 --> 00:47:19,212
    We're not gonna be like them.   
   We're not gonna break our word. 

941
00:47:19,254 --> 00:47:20,922
            And he says,            
       "Well, inmates would be      

942
00:47:20,964 --> 00:47:22,007
     more honorable than them?"     

943
00:47:22,048 --> 00:47:24,175
            Yes, we were.           

944
00:47:24,217 --> 00:47:26,595
      'Cause we gave them our word   
     nothing would happen to them.   

945
00:47:26,636 --> 00:47:29,556
        [prisoners shouting]        

946
00:47:34,936 --> 00:47:36,605
      [Sheppard]   And everybody      
           started screaming,        

947
00:47:36,646 --> 00:47:39,357
       "Let him go! Let him go!"     

948
00:47:39,399 --> 00:47:40,734
     [inmate] Security, please.     

949
00:47:42,694 --> 00:47:44,362
          Security, please.         

950
00:47:45,447 --> 00:47:48,116
      And he got out of Dodge,      
       and he never came back.      

951
00:47:53,580 --> 00:47:55,749
    [reporter]   In New York state,   
            some 500 inmates         

952
00:47:55,790 --> 00:47:59,002
     of the Attica Maximum Security 
      Prison are still in revolt.    

953
00:47:59,044 --> 00:48:01,212
          Authorities tried         
       unsuccessfully to reach      

954
00:48:01,254 --> 00:48:04,257
   a settlement with the prisoners 
      over demands for reforms      

955
00:48:04,299 --> 00:48:06,801
        and to obtain release       
      of more than 30 hostages.     

956
00:48:06,843 --> 00:48:08,929
     We have a report on what's     
      been happening at Attica      

957
00:48:08,970 --> 00:48:10,972
      from ABC's John Johnson.      

958
00:48:11,014 --> 00:48:12,098
              [Johnson]             
        Fires were still burning     

959
00:48:12,140 --> 00:48:14,017
        at Attica State Prison.      

960
00:48:14,059 --> 00:48:17,145
     Despite a small army of police 
          and state troopers,        

961
00:48:17,187 --> 00:48:20,607
         the prisoners continue      
      to call the shots at Attica.   

962
00:48:20,649 --> 00:48:23,902
     Commissioner Oswald announced   
         that prison officials       

963
00:48:23,944 --> 00:48:25,987
            were attempting          
         to bring to the prison      

964
00:48:26,029 --> 00:48:29,908
         those people requested      
           by the prisoners.         

965
00:48:29,950 --> 00:48:34,287
   The group was basically people   

966
00:48:34,329 --> 00:48:36,039
           whom they knew.          

967
00:48:36,081 --> 00:48:38,208
        People like Tom Wicker,      

968
00:48:38,249 --> 00:48:41,419
        who had written a column     
            about prisoners.         

969
00:48:41,461 --> 00:48:43,505
           Senator John Dunne        

970
00:48:43,546 --> 00:48:45,757
              was chairman           
        of the Prisons Committee     

971
00:48:45,799 --> 00:48:47,258
          and sympathetic.          

972
00:48:47,300 --> 00:48:49,427
        He was asked to come.       

973
00:48:49,469 --> 00:48:53,807
        Bill Kunstler, a lawyer      
         for the Chicago Seven.      

974
00:48:53,848 --> 00:48:55,767
         Asked him to come in.       

975
00:48:55,809 --> 00:48:58,144
          And Clarence Jones,        

976
00:48:58,186 --> 00:49:00,855
               publisher             
         of the   Amsterdam News.      

977
00:49:00,897 --> 00:49:03,775
      apprehensive music playing  

978
00:49:03,817 --> 00:49:05,485
                                  

979
00:49:05,527 --> 00:49:06,820
       [Jones]   I have a driver      
          who's driving me up        

980
00:49:06,861 --> 00:49:08,405
         to the   Amsterdam News.      

981
00:49:08,446 --> 00:49:10,073
      And the driver says, "Boss!    

982
00:49:10,115 --> 00:49:11,324
      They're calling your name     
           on the radio."           

983
00:49:11,366 --> 00:49:13,410
      I said, "What you mean?"      

984
00:49:13,451 --> 00:49:16,246
          Called Rockefeller,        
           and lo and behold,        

985
00:49:16,287 --> 00:49:17,998
              the governor           
          picked up the phone.       

986
00:49:18,039 --> 00:49:22,043
    He said, "Thank you so much,    
             Mr. Jones.             

987
00:49:22,085 --> 00:49:23,837
     We have a major situation.     

988
00:49:25,547 --> 00:49:28,883
        A number of the inmates      
         have called your name.      

989
00:49:30,927 --> 00:49:33,013
      We'll have a car pick you up   

990
00:49:33,054 --> 00:49:35,390
              and take you           
        to a private airport...      

991
00:49:37,308 --> 00:49:39,853
     ...where a state private plane 
          is waiting for you."       

992
00:49:42,105 --> 00:49:45,900
     And there, I'm off to Attica,   

993
00:49:45,942 --> 00:49:49,529
               to be part            
      of the observers committee.    

994
00:49:51,823 --> 00:49:55,326
       My wife and I were off       
     on a vacation at the time,     

995
00:49:55,368 --> 00:49:57,495
     and we got a call that they    
     had asked me to come there,    

996
00:49:57,537 --> 00:49:59,706
          and I felt that,          
      with my prior experience      

997
00:49:59,748 --> 00:50:01,249
       and my responsibilities      

998
00:50:01,291 --> 00:50:02,751
           as the chairman          
      of the Prison Committee,      

999
00:50:02,792 --> 00:50:04,085
          I ought to be there.       

1000
00:50:06,212 --> 00:50:07,881
           I was optimistic.         

1001
00:50:07,922 --> 00:50:11,301
      I thought, "Give it a shot."   

1002
00:50:11,342 --> 00:50:13,053
      [reporter]   For the rebel      
          prisoners of Attica,       

1003
00:50:13,094 --> 00:50:15,555
     the encouraging appearance of   
     people they consider friends,   

1004
00:50:15,597 --> 00:50:17,348
     a 30-man mediation committee,   

1005
00:50:17,390 --> 00:50:19,517
        including a congressman,     
             four newsmen,           

1006
00:50:19,559 --> 00:50:22,353
         and most importantly,       
        lawyer William Kunstler.     

1007
00:50:22,395 --> 00:50:23,563
              [Johnson]             
       Have you heard anything      

1008
00:50:23,605 --> 00:50:25,148
     from Governor Rockefeller's    
               office?              

1009
00:50:25,190 --> 00:50:28,693
     I mean, has he put any time    
    limit on these negotiations?    

1010
00:50:28,735 --> 00:50:32,322
        No, but I understand        
    that there is no present plan   

1011
00:50:32,363 --> 00:50:35,283
    to use force in this prison,    
     and I hope that continues.     

1012
00:50:35,325 --> 00:50:37,410
     I just hope that they realize   
              that this is           

1013
00:50:37,452 --> 00:50:41,122
          a unique situation,        
       and that it may take time,    

1014
00:50:41,164 --> 00:50:43,291
         and that if everyone's      
             in good faith,          

1015
00:50:43,333 --> 00:50:44,834
        something will work out.     

1016
00:50:47,128 --> 00:50:49,756
     [Rothenberg]   It was scary.     
      The tension was tremendous.    

1017
00:50:49,798 --> 00:50:52,050
     You could have cut the air     
            with a knife.           

1018
00:50:52,092 --> 00:50:54,135
         It was terrifying.         

1019
00:50:54,177 --> 00:50:56,971
   I remember going into the yard   
      and saying to Mel Rivers,     

1020
00:50:57,013 --> 00:50:58,640
     "Do you have a cigarette?"     

1021
00:50:58,681 --> 00:51:00,558
     And he said, "You have one     
     in your--one in your hand,     

1022
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,144
         one in your mouth,         
        and one in your ear."       

1023
00:51:03,186 --> 00:51:05,814
             I was scared.           

1024
00:51:05,855 --> 00:51:07,982
          When you see a tower       
       with people with rifles--     

1025
00:51:08,024 --> 00:51:09,442
             [chuckles]             

1026
00:51:09,484 --> 00:51:12,654
        I kept thinking, um,        
        we should stay close        

1027
00:51:12,695 --> 00:51:14,322
            to Tom Wicker           
         and Herman Badillo,        

1028
00:51:14,364 --> 00:51:16,866
        because they would be       
    the least likely to be shot.    

1029
00:51:19,369 --> 00:51:21,830
        Frank "Big Black" Smith      

1030
00:51:21,871 --> 00:51:25,667
            was the overall          
            security leader.         

1031
00:51:25,708 --> 00:51:28,169
     He took that job on himself    
              already.              

1032
00:51:28,211 --> 00:51:30,672
           He was the guy.          

1033
00:51:30,713 --> 00:51:32,382
          [Nieves laughing]         
          He was the big man.        

1034
00:51:32,423 --> 00:51:35,051
      I mean, this fella was big.    

1035
00:51:35,093 --> 00:51:37,470
          They was responsible       
          to making sure that        

1036
00:51:37,512 --> 00:51:41,266
    the observers that came in--    

1037
00:51:41,307 --> 00:51:43,351
      the same way they came in     

1038
00:51:43,393 --> 00:51:45,270
     is the same way they left.     

1039
00:51:45,311 --> 00:51:48,148
   You know, no harm come to them. 

1040
00:51:48,189 --> 00:51:52,068
    He said, "Well, we gotta have   
      a inmate security force."     

1041
00:51:52,110 --> 00:51:54,779
          Said, "All right.         
    We're looking for volunteers.   

1042
00:51:54,821 --> 00:51:58,575
      You, you, you, you, you,      
     y'all on the inmate force.     

1043
00:51:58,616 --> 00:52:00,702
   And it can't be all Black guys. 

1044
00:52:00,743 --> 00:52:03,538
   We need Black guys, white guys, 
         and Puerto Ricans."        

1045
00:52:06,916 --> 00:52:10,044
      [Brosig]   We would line up     
         and create a corridor,      

1046
00:52:10,086 --> 00:52:12,547
      and they would walk down      
     the middle of the corridor,    

1047
00:52:12,589 --> 00:52:16,467
       with us being a barrier      
     between general population     

1048
00:52:16,509 --> 00:52:18,052
        and the negotiators.        

1049
00:52:18,094 --> 00:52:20,889
         So we would just stand      
          shoulder to shoulder       

1050
00:52:20,930 --> 00:52:24,392
     and give them that safe space   
            to walk through.         

1051
00:52:28,730 --> 00:52:29,898
               [Scott]              
     We began to talk to with them   

1052
00:52:29,939 --> 00:52:32,150
        about what they wanted.      

1053
00:52:32,192 --> 00:52:36,571
       And they had their list      
              of things             

1054
00:52:36,613 --> 00:52:39,157
          that they wanted          
          already written.          

1055
00:52:39,199 --> 00:52:42,076
              You know,             
     everybody wanted a voice--     

1056
00:52:42,118 --> 00:52:44,454
   good, bad, and the whacked out. 

1057
00:52:44,495 --> 00:52:47,790
        So nothing went easy,       
            but it went.            

1058
00:52:47,832 --> 00:52:49,959
   We got to a point where we had   

1059
00:52:50,001 --> 00:52:53,588
           what we thought          
         might be possible.         

1060
00:52:53,630 --> 00:52:56,341
    Their demands were, you know,   

1061
00:52:56,382 --> 00:52:59,719
         reasonable demands         
      about living conditions.      

1062
00:52:59,761 --> 00:53:02,847
      They wanted medical care,     

1063
00:53:02,889 --> 00:53:06,100
          uh, decent food,          

1064
00:53:06,142 --> 00:53:10,313
   uh, fair disciplinary hearings. 

1065
00:53:13,399 --> 00:53:16,402
       Basically, they wanted       
            to be treated           

1066
00:53:16,444 --> 00:53:19,614
         like human beings.         

1067
00:53:19,656 --> 00:53:20,907
             [reporter]             
       Prisoners late last night     

1068
00:53:20,949 --> 00:53:23,284
          met with a 30-member       
           civilian committee        

1069
00:53:23,326 --> 00:53:25,286
             in an attempt           
           to clarify demands        

1070
00:53:25,328 --> 00:53:27,580
          ranging from better        
         prison life conditions      

1071
00:53:27,622 --> 00:53:29,707
           to more religious         
         and political freedom.      

1072
00:53:29,749 --> 00:53:33,044
     I injected into the demands    

1073
00:53:33,086 --> 00:53:36,798
        for some people to go       
   to a non-imperialistic country, 

1074
00:53:36,839 --> 00:53:39,425
     you know, to be flied out.     

1075
00:53:39,467 --> 00:53:42,220
           We thought Cuba          
     was gonna come and get us.     

1076
00:53:42,262 --> 00:53:46,432
     You ship troops to Vietnam,    
          to Santo Domingo,         

1077
00:53:46,474 --> 00:53:49,394
   to all these foreign countries, 
      to oppress the brothers.      

1078
00:53:49,435 --> 00:53:51,521
     You can bring one of these     
         helicopters in here        

1079
00:53:51,562 --> 00:53:53,606
             and ship us            
       on out of this country.      

1080
00:53:53,648 --> 00:53:55,733
         [inmates cheering]         

1081
00:53:55,775 --> 00:53:58,569
     We done seen people snatch     
     airplanes and all like that    

1082
00:53:58,611 --> 00:54:01,281
     and go to Cuba and Algiers     
        and all other places.       

1083
00:54:01,322 --> 00:54:03,157
      Why not get out of jail?      

1084
00:54:03,199 --> 00:54:06,160
   An Air France jet was hijacked   
      by Palestinian guerillas.     

1085
00:54:06,202 --> 00:54:10,373
         A 17-year-old girl         
   hijacked a TWA jetliner on a... 

1086
00:54:10,415 --> 00:54:12,750
         I had four years in        
      on a 25-to-life sentence.     

1087
00:54:12,792 --> 00:54:14,961
      Why not get out of jail?      

1088
00:54:15,003 --> 00:54:16,462
              Why not?              

1089
00:54:16,504 --> 00:54:20,174
       Well, we all knew that       
      that wasn't gonna happen.     

1090
00:54:20,216 --> 00:54:24,804
   We weren't gonna go to Algeria   
    in their plane, I knew that.    

1091
00:54:24,846 --> 00:54:27,932
         Everybody, the back        
     of their minds, knew that.     

1092
00:54:27,974 --> 00:54:29,350
       But we needed amnesty.       

1093
00:54:31,853 --> 00:54:33,438
              [inmate]              
     We want the federal judiciary   

1094
00:54:33,479 --> 00:54:35,523
     to guarantee complete amnesty   

1095
00:54:35,565 --> 00:54:38,192
     to each and every one of us    
         that has taken part        

1096
00:54:38,234 --> 00:54:42,113
   in the struggle here at Attica, 
     to ensure that this amnesty    

1097
00:54:42,155 --> 00:54:44,574
             will not be            
     just a groping in the wind,    

1098
00:54:44,615 --> 00:54:48,536
         but a reality for each      
          and every one of us.       

1099
00:54:48,578 --> 00:54:50,580
    [Dunne]   They were not looking   
             to be relieved          

1100
00:54:50,621 --> 00:54:53,458
       of the prison sentences      
     to which they had been sent    

1101
00:54:53,499 --> 00:54:55,835
            by the courts           
       after being convicted.       

1102
00:54:55,877 --> 00:54:59,964
    They were looking to be freed   
        from any prosecution        

1103
00:55:00,006 --> 00:55:03,676
          or any penalties          
   for their engaging in the riot. 

1104
00:55:06,721 --> 00:55:09,849
     Besides the normal beatings    
         and everything else        

1105
00:55:09,891 --> 00:55:14,854
    that they're gonna do to us,    
   which is, you know, automatic,   

1106
00:55:14,896 --> 00:55:17,899
    we knew that they could also    
   take us and bring us to courts   

1107
00:55:17,940 --> 00:55:22,236
     and, you know, and turn us     
      into the monster inmates      

1108
00:55:22,278 --> 00:55:25,031
      who took over the prison.     

1109
00:55:25,073 --> 00:55:28,409
         [inmate]   We are not        
          advocating violence.       

1110
00:55:28,451 --> 00:55:30,745
          We all want to live.       

1111
00:55:32,955 --> 00:55:35,708
             All of us.             

1112
00:55:35,750 --> 00:55:37,794
       If any of you gentlemen      
             own dogs...            

1113
00:55:39,837 --> 00:55:42,965
     You're treating them better    
      than we have been treated     

1114
00:55:43,007 --> 00:55:45,176
           the last year.           

1115
00:55:45,218 --> 00:55:47,762
           [inmates cheer]          

1116
00:55:47,804 --> 00:55:49,764
               [Jones]              
       They were fiercely trying     

1117
00:55:49,806 --> 00:55:52,475
     to convince prison authorities 

1118
00:55:52,517 --> 00:55:55,645
         that they didn't cease      
          being a human being        

1119
00:55:55,686 --> 00:55:59,732
           merely by the fact        
      that they were incarcerated    

1120
00:55:59,774 --> 00:56:03,569
        because they had broken      
           a law of society.         

1121
00:56:03,611 --> 00:56:05,738
    Now, that's a profound thing.   

1122
00:56:05,780 --> 00:56:08,741
           "I am somebody.          

1123
00:56:08,783 --> 00:56:11,119
          I'm not a thing.          

1124
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:14,664
   You can't treat me like a dog.   

1125
00:56:14,705 --> 00:56:18,292
        I may be a prisoner,        
        but I have dignity."        

1126
00:56:18,334 --> 00:56:21,546
    And that's what they insisted   

1127
00:56:21,587 --> 00:56:24,549
          on getting the...         

1128
00:56:24,590 --> 00:56:28,928
      power structure of Attica     
           to recognize--           

1129
00:56:28,970 --> 00:56:32,974
         that they continued        
           to be somebody.          

1130
00:56:35,685 --> 00:56:39,188
       [Nieves]   The observers,      
     they all were listening to us. 

1131
00:56:39,230 --> 00:56:43,317
            I feel that they         
          were supporting us.        

1132
00:56:43,359 --> 00:56:46,487
                You see,             
      and that meant a lot to us.    

1133
00:56:48,573 --> 00:56:50,950
       "This is our situation.      
        Please listen to us."       

1134
00:56:50,992 --> 00:56:53,327
 And that's what they were doing. 
        They were listening.        

1135
00:56:53,369 --> 00:56:55,538
   It felt like there was somebody 
        that believed in us.        

1136
00:56:55,580 --> 00:56:57,331
          It felt that way.         

1137
00:56:57,373 --> 00:56:58,708
    That somebody believed that,    

1138
00:56:58,749 --> 00:57:00,585
              you know,             
      you did have some rights,     

1139
00:57:00,626 --> 00:57:02,503
        even though you were        
   a convicted felon of whatever.   

1140
00:57:04,839 --> 00:57:08,176
     We'd be able to get better     
         mailing privileges,        

1141
00:57:08,217 --> 00:57:09,969
     better medical privileges.     

1142
00:57:10,011 --> 00:57:13,890
      We tried to nail it down      
     to that which was realistic    

1143
00:57:13,931 --> 00:57:17,643
            and possible,           
     distinguished from a plane     

1144
00:57:17,685 --> 00:57:20,688
           waiting for us           
       outside the cell block,      

1145
00:57:20,730 --> 00:57:23,024
         flying us to Cuba.         

1146
00:57:23,065 --> 00:57:24,859
         That's what it was.        

1147
00:57:24,901 --> 00:57:28,237
    It was realism from fantasy.    

1148
00:57:29,989 --> 00:57:32,408
        We want to be treated       
          as human beings.          

1149
00:57:33,784 --> 00:57:37,872
         We will be treated         
          as human beings.          

1150
00:57:37,914 --> 00:57:39,707
            We have come            
        to the conclusion...        

1151
00:57:41,501 --> 00:57:44,670
        ...after close study,       

1152
00:57:44,712 --> 00:57:47,924
        after much suffering,       

1153
00:57:47,965 --> 00:57:51,260
      after much consideration,     

1154
00:57:51,302 --> 00:57:56,349
          that if we cannot         
           live as people,          

1155
00:57:56,390 --> 00:58:00,269
        then we will at least       
        try to die like men.        

1156
00:58:00,311 --> 00:58:04,315
         [inmates cheering]         

1157
00:58:04,357 --> 00:58:08,402
      That statement resounded      
             everywhere.            

1158
00:58:14,158 --> 00:58:16,327
            In that yard,           
         when he said that,         

1159
00:58:16,369 --> 00:58:19,747
    a roar went up like no other.   

1160
00:58:19,789 --> 00:58:21,541
        This was their stand.       

1161
00:58:21,582 --> 00:58:24,502
        I saw that I really--       

1162
00:58:24,544 --> 00:58:26,796
             none of us             
      were gonna be observers.      

1163
00:58:26,837 --> 00:58:28,839
     We were gonna be mediators.    

1164
00:58:28,881 --> 00:58:31,634
          Whether we wanted         
       to be mediators or not,      

1165
00:58:31,676 --> 00:58:35,555
      whether we were called up     
          to be mediators,          

1166
00:58:35,596 --> 00:58:39,809
        this prison uprising        
         had to be mediated.        

1167
00:58:39,850 --> 00:58:42,770
     Otherwise, it was gonna end    
            in disaster.            

1168
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:48,317
            If you people           
         do not understand,         

1169
00:58:48,359 --> 00:58:51,946
            if you people           
        do not stick with us,       

1170
00:58:51,988 --> 00:58:53,990
      if you people cannot make     
           the commitment           

1171
00:58:54,031 --> 00:58:55,449
      that we have made here...     

1172
00:58:57,785 --> 00:59:00,079
           ...we are dead.          

1173
00:59:00,121 --> 00:59:04,000
      I appeal, beseech you all     

1174
00:59:04,041 --> 00:59:06,002
          to stand with us,         

1175
00:59:06,043 --> 00:59:08,546
            walk with us,           

1176
00:59:08,588 --> 00:59:10,756
     die with us, if necessary!     

1177
00:59:10,798 --> 00:59:13,634
        -[inmate] I hear you!       
      -You and all the people!      

1178
00:59:13,676 --> 00:59:16,596
            Power to you            
         and all the people!        

1179
00:59:16,637 --> 00:59:18,806
         [inmates cheering]         

1180
00:59:30,359 --> 00:59:33,237
      suspenseful music playing    

1181
00:59:33,279 --> 00:59:38,159
                                  

1182
00:59:40,369 --> 00:59:43,998
    [Johnson]   Things were growing   
            on the outside.          

1183
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:45,708
          Don't tape this.          

1184
00:59:48,377 --> 00:59:50,421
              [Johnson]             
      There were more journalists.   

1185
00:59:50,463 --> 00:59:53,466
        There were more police.      

1186
00:59:53,507 --> 00:59:55,801
     And it was just getting bigger 

1187
00:59:55,843 --> 01:00:00,056
         and bigger and bigger.      

1188
01:00:00,097 --> 01:00:03,017
          People are coming         
           night and day,           

1189
01:00:03,059 --> 01:00:07,605
   vans with reporters and police, 
     and things are building up.    

1190
01:00:11,108 --> 01:00:12,401
             [reporter]             
      Among those keeping a vigil    

1191
01:00:12,443 --> 01:00:14,153
       outside the prison walls,     

1192
01:00:14,195 --> 01:00:16,906
          the families of some       
      of the 38 men held hostage.    

1193
01:00:16,947 --> 01:00:19,784
          I was just home,          
          watching the TV.          

1194
01:00:19,825 --> 01:00:23,788
          I just kept looking        
            for my husband.          

1195
01:00:23,829 --> 01:00:27,083
          Maybe he'd be killed       
       or brutalized in some way,    

1196
01:00:27,124 --> 01:00:28,959
          because the inmates        
              at that time           

1197
01:00:29,001 --> 01:00:30,961
     had the power there, you know. 

1198
01:00:31,003 --> 01:00:34,590
       And if they didn't like      
     somebody, or who knew what,    

1199
01:00:34,632 --> 01:00:37,009
        you were just scared        
      to death that, you know,      

1200
01:00:37,051 --> 01:00:39,011
      they'd just kill them all     
            or something            

1201
01:00:39,053 --> 01:00:40,554
    if they didn't get their way.   

1202
01:00:42,515 --> 01:00:44,266
             [reporter]             
      Families of the 31 hostages    

1203
01:00:44,308 --> 01:00:46,102
         wait for word as part       
             of the prison           

1204
01:00:46,143 --> 01:00:48,187
           remains in control        
            of the inmates.          

1205
01:00:48,229 --> 01:00:53,192
                                  

1206
01:00:54,694 --> 01:00:55,986
           [Quinn Miller]           
            They were upset,         

1207
01:00:56,028 --> 01:00:58,072
            they were angry,         
         and they were scared,       

1208
01:00:58,114 --> 01:01:00,741
           standing out there        

1209
01:01:00,783 --> 01:01:04,036
         while their loved ones      
        are being held hostage,      

1210
01:01:04,078 --> 01:01:05,746
        and they are waiting        

1211
01:01:05,788 --> 01:01:09,250
    for any scrap of information,   

1212
01:01:09,291 --> 01:01:11,419
         to hear something.         

1213
01:01:13,129 --> 01:01:15,589
       And many of those families    

1214
01:01:15,631 --> 01:01:17,591
              stood vigil            
        day and night out there.     

1215
01:01:20,803 --> 01:01:22,430
          [Maryann Valone]          
       A bunch of people crying,     

1216
01:01:22,471 --> 01:01:25,766
         the wives and brothers      
              and fathers,           

1217
01:01:25,808 --> 01:01:27,560
             freaking out.           

1218
01:01:27,601 --> 01:01:29,603
              Just panic.            

1219
01:01:29,645 --> 01:01:32,064
     People were afraid to talk     
         in the parking lot         

1220
01:01:32,106 --> 01:01:34,442
     because they thought that--    

1221
01:01:34,483 --> 01:01:36,986
    to any reporters or anybody,    
                even.               

1222
01:01:37,027 --> 01:01:38,988
     They did it all in privacy     

1223
01:01:39,029 --> 01:01:41,198
      because they didn't want      
      their relatives targeted,     

1224
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:43,075
      singled out by the inmates.    

1225
01:01:54,670 --> 01:01:56,589
      I had sympathy for them.      

1226
01:01:56,630 --> 01:01:59,633
          They--where else          
      were you gonna get a job      

1227
01:01:59,675 --> 01:02:03,304
     if you lived in that area?     

1228
01:02:03,345 --> 01:02:06,140
       And you had no training      

1229
01:02:06,182 --> 01:02:09,059
        and no understanding        

1230
01:02:09,101 --> 01:02:11,061
         of what it was like        

1231
01:02:11,103 --> 01:02:14,315
        to grow up in a poor,       

1232
01:02:14,356 --> 01:02:17,985
         Black, urban area.         

1233
01:02:18,027 --> 01:02:21,155
       You--these were aliens.      

1234
01:02:21,197 --> 01:02:24,241
          These were people         
       from a different world.      

1235
01:02:26,535 --> 01:02:29,830
       And your family members      

1236
01:02:29,872 --> 01:02:34,627
     maybe are gonna get killed     
          because of them?          

1237
01:02:34,668 --> 01:02:38,088
       Sure, you were infuriated.    

1238
01:02:40,299 --> 01:02:42,968
       All these dogs up there      
        with all those rifles       

1239
01:02:43,010 --> 01:02:44,887
       are trying to kill us.       

1240
01:02:44,929 --> 01:02:46,555
     Well, we ain't gonna quit.     

1241
01:02:46,597 --> 01:02:49,683
        The inmates that were       
      given microphones on TV,      

1242
01:02:49,725 --> 01:02:51,894
       I mean--very upsetting.      

1243
01:02:53,437 --> 01:02:55,064
            They should have         
        resolved it right away.      

1244
01:02:55,105 --> 01:02:58,400
        It just went on too far.     
     We all just wanted it to end.   

1245
01:03:00,820 --> 01:03:04,949
          What I would hear         
           over the radio           

1246
01:03:04,990 --> 01:03:06,826
             and the TV             

1247
01:03:06,867 --> 01:03:09,411
         was not satisfying         
            to me at all,           

1248
01:03:09,453 --> 01:03:13,374
       because it seemed to me      
      that what I was hearing,      

1249
01:03:13,415 --> 01:03:16,544
          I didn't think was--       

1250
01:03:16,585 --> 01:03:18,963
            they were doing          
            the right thing.         

1251
01:03:19,004 --> 01:03:22,216
             It just seemed          
          sort of limp to me.        

1252
01:03:22,258 --> 01:03:23,592
       And that was frustrating.     

1253
01:03:25,761 --> 01:03:27,388
           [Jaime Valone]           
     You'd hear stuff from people.   

1254
01:03:27,429 --> 01:03:29,181
          That's where it got        
          a little scary, too,       

1255
01:03:29,223 --> 01:03:32,309
      'cause you could see how      
    the inmates were considered,    

1256
01:03:32,351 --> 01:03:35,563
       like, less than human,       
        kind of like animals.       

1257
01:03:35,604 --> 01:03:37,982
      There was people saying,      
              you know,             

1258
01:03:38,023 --> 01:03:39,525
    "Don't worry about your dad."   

1259
01:03:39,567 --> 01:03:42,278
   You know, "they'll get theirs"   
             type thing.            

1260
01:03:42,319 --> 01:03:45,447
     And so that kind of made it    
          even more scary.          

1261
01:03:45,489 --> 01:03:47,700
              You realize            
        how emotionally charged      

1262
01:03:47,741 --> 01:03:49,869
        the community's getting.     

1263
01:03:49,910 --> 01:03:52,079
         The tensions got worse      
          and worse and worse.       

1264
01:03:52,121 --> 01:03:54,039
           Emotions got worse        
          and worse and worse.       

1265
01:03:56,166 --> 01:03:59,044
         solemn music playing      

1266
01:03:59,086 --> 01:04:04,174
                                  

1267
01:04:04,216 --> 01:04:06,677
         [Asbury]   Saturday,         
         I think that the hope       

1268
01:04:06,719 --> 01:04:10,472
      was stronger than the doubt,   
       because after three days,     

1269
01:04:10,514 --> 01:04:13,934
         you know, Thursday,        
        Friday, and Saturday,       

1270
01:04:13,976 --> 01:04:15,603
     they hadn't came in there.     

1271
01:04:15,644 --> 01:04:17,104
      We had, like, 30 demands,     

1272
01:04:17,146 --> 01:04:22,234
   and most of them were possible. 

1273
01:04:22,276 --> 01:04:25,362
         And we were exuberant       
               about it.             

1274
01:04:25,404 --> 01:04:28,115
           I've never seen          
         anything like this.        

1275
01:04:28,157 --> 01:04:30,451
         The people in here         
       are treated like dogs.       

1276
01:04:30,492 --> 01:04:33,370
        Not only the Black--        
   the Puerto Rican and the white. 

1277
01:04:33,412 --> 01:04:34,955
         And we're gonna get        
           what we demand,          

1278
01:04:34,997 --> 01:04:36,790
       or we gonna die trying.      

1279
01:04:36,832 --> 01:04:38,876
             Thank you.             

1280
01:04:38,918 --> 01:04:40,669
     [Victory]   We thought that,     
           whatever happened,        

1281
01:04:40,711 --> 01:04:42,963
             we could maybe          
            really walk away         

1282
01:04:43,005 --> 01:04:44,632
         with some improvement       
             in our lives.           

1283
01:04:47,259 --> 01:04:50,638
          Point was is that         
         whatever happened,         

1284
01:04:50,679 --> 01:04:53,432
         it just had to make        
            a difference.           

1285
01:04:53,474 --> 01:04:56,352
         Change had to happen.       
        You had to embrace hope.     

1286
01:05:02,274 --> 01:05:04,818
    There's a report that prison    
       officials have yielded       

1287
01:05:04,860 --> 01:05:07,279
       to most of the demands       
      by the rebelling inmates      

1288
01:05:07,321 --> 01:05:09,448
     at the Attica State Prison     
            in New York,            

1289
01:05:09,490 --> 01:05:11,492
     where more than 30 persons     
       have been held hostage       

1290
01:05:11,533 --> 01:05:14,036
           for three days.          

1291
01:05:14,078 --> 01:05:16,830
        [Oswald] As you know,       
         during this ordeal,        

1292
01:05:16,872 --> 01:05:19,792
        I have personally met       
            with inmates            

1293
01:05:19,833 --> 01:05:23,545
        on several occasions        
    in areas under their control,   

1294
01:05:23,587 --> 01:05:26,632
        and have demonstrated       
            my commitment           

1295
01:05:26,674 --> 01:05:29,677
       to deal with the issues      
          they have raised          

1296
01:05:29,718 --> 01:05:33,347
      by accepting 28 of the 30     

1297
01:05:33,389 --> 01:05:35,683
       major inmate proposals.      

1298
01:05:35,724 --> 01:05:38,852
    Mr. Kunstler, can you tell me   
      what's gonna happen now?      

1299
01:05:38,894 --> 01:05:42,773
     Well, we hope negotiations     
      will start this afternoon     

1300
01:05:42,815 --> 01:05:44,692
            and continue            
    until they reach a solution.    

1301
01:05:44,733 --> 01:05:46,777
             [reporter]             
   Is Huey Newton or Bobby Seale,   

1302
01:05:46,819 --> 01:05:48,779
          are they coming?          
        They were asked for.        

1303
01:05:48,821 --> 01:05:50,114
       [Kunstler]   We hope so,       
           and we understood         

1304
01:05:50,155 --> 01:05:51,699
        that they were en route.     

1305
01:05:51,740 --> 01:05:54,076
               [Dunne]              
       We had kind of settled in     

1306
01:05:54,118 --> 01:05:55,869
            on the demands,          

1307
01:05:55,911 --> 01:06:00,332
         and we had negotiated       
     with Oswald for his commitment 

1308
01:06:00,374 --> 01:06:02,376
             to 28 of them.          

1309
01:06:04,753 --> 01:06:07,297
          And the whole point        
     of Bobby Seale's coming there   

1310
01:06:07,339 --> 01:06:10,134
          would be for him          
        to bless and support        

1311
01:06:10,175 --> 01:06:12,678
        and urge the inmates        
           to accept them.          

1312
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:17,850
                                  

1313
01:06:18,308 --> 01:06:20,185
              [Asbury]              
   Bobby Seale was our hero,        

1314
01:06:20,227 --> 01:06:22,855
      because he was speaking out    
          about the brutality        

1315
01:06:22,896 --> 01:06:25,357
         that was happening         
        in the prison system.       

1316
01:06:25,399 --> 01:06:27,860
            He was doing            
    what we were trying to live.    

1317
01:06:27,901 --> 01:06:31,030
          He was a Panther,         
       the second-in-command.       

1318
01:06:31,071 --> 01:06:33,240
            I really thought         
       he was gonna help us out.     

1319
01:06:33,282 --> 01:06:36,744
     Every demand. Every demand.    

1320
01:06:36,785 --> 01:06:39,038
         [continues speaking        
            indistinctly]           

1321
01:06:39,079 --> 01:06:42,124
       Bobby didn't stay long.      
       Bobby didn't stay long.      

1322
01:06:42,166 --> 01:06:44,543
          Came up to where          
     the negotiating table was,     

1323
01:06:44,585 --> 01:06:45,878
        made his little speech.      

1324
01:06:45,919 --> 01:06:47,671
     He ain't walk around the yard. 

1325
01:06:49,131 --> 01:06:50,841
         Bobby walked right up       
             out the jail.           

1326
01:06:54,344 --> 01:06:56,346
              [Larkins]             
        It was quite a letdown.      

1327
01:06:56,388 --> 01:06:58,849
              Let's go.             
         Let's go, big man.         

1328
01:06:58,891 --> 01:07:00,893
         [Larkins]   He stayed        
        all about three minutes.     

1329
01:07:03,604 --> 01:07:07,024
           At that point,           
    everybody just sitting around   

1330
01:07:07,066 --> 01:07:09,068
               waiting              
      for something to happen.      

1331
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:17,409
             [Schwartz]             
       But then Billy Quinn died,    

1332
01:07:17,451 --> 01:07:19,912
          and that transformed       
              everything.            

1333
01:07:19,953 --> 01:07:21,580
     [reporter]   The State Prison    
          in Attica, New York,       

1334
01:07:21,622 --> 01:07:23,373
        is at the crisis point.      

1335
01:07:23,415 --> 01:07:25,918
     The death of one of the guards 
       has hardened the position     

1336
01:07:25,959 --> 01:07:28,087
          of prison officials,       
        and there are strong...      

1337
01:07:28,128 --> 01:07:30,089
        You don't get amnesty       
            for a murder.           

1338
01:07:30,130 --> 01:07:31,673
        I immediately knew...       

1339
01:07:35,761 --> 01:07:39,681
         ...that the process        
           of negotiations          

1340
01:07:39,723 --> 01:07:43,060
   just became far more difficult. 

1341
01:07:43,102 --> 01:07:45,687
        I knew that was, uh,        

1342
01:07:45,729 --> 01:07:48,941
     that was the worst possible    
      thing that could happen.      

1343
01:07:48,982 --> 01:07:53,362
             How could they          
          peacefully negotiate       

1344
01:07:53,403 --> 01:07:56,198
              with inmates           
       who they held responsible     

1345
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:57,908
       for the death of a guard?     

1346
01:08:01,370 --> 01:08:05,165
      Prior to his passing on,      

1347
01:08:05,207 --> 01:08:09,128
          there was a hope          
      and even an expectation,      

1348
01:08:09,169 --> 01:08:11,964
     because people were listening, 

1349
01:08:12,005 --> 01:08:13,298
           people were coming        
             to understand           

1350
01:08:13,340 --> 01:08:16,343
            what we had been         
             living through          

1351
01:08:16,385 --> 01:08:18,846
             and suffering           
          as prisoners there.        

1352
01:08:20,597 --> 01:08:23,517
              We knew that           
         it was a new ballgame.      

1353
01:08:23,559 --> 01:08:28,230
     It was depression and fear...   

1354
01:08:28,272 --> 01:08:32,276
       and, you know, anxiety,      
             and, yeah,             

1355
01:08:32,317 --> 01:08:34,153
    everything you could imagine.   

1356
01:08:34,194 --> 01:08:37,239
   We had to drop a lot of issues   

1357
01:08:37,281 --> 01:08:40,409
    and focus on amnesty as one,    

1358
01:08:40,450 --> 01:08:42,578
         as the main issue,         

1359
01:08:42,619 --> 01:08:47,457
       because we didn't want       
     to be charged with murder.     

1360
01:08:47,499 --> 01:08:50,335
       We said, as a group...       

1361
01:08:52,963 --> 01:08:56,842
     ...that we was gonna stand     
    in solidarity with everyone.    

1362
01:08:58,594 --> 01:09:01,096
   If they could not give amnesty   
            to everybody,           

1363
01:09:01,138 --> 01:09:03,891
     then we was not gonna leave    
        anyone in the clutch        

1364
01:09:03,932 --> 01:09:06,685
          or in--to take--          
   or throw anybody under the bus, 

1365
01:09:06,727 --> 01:09:08,312
     so to speak, to take this.     

1366
01:09:08,353 --> 01:09:10,314
         We acted together.         

1367
01:09:10,355 --> 01:09:14,151
   We understood that this was us, 

1368
01:09:14,193 --> 01:09:16,153
          that if we didn't         
         stand together now,        

1369
01:09:16,195 --> 01:09:18,197
   we never would, and it would--   

1370
01:09:18,238 --> 01:09:21,408
       we would live like dogs      
     for the rest of our lives.     

1371
01:09:23,619 --> 01:09:25,996
         We understood that.        

1372
01:09:26,038 --> 01:09:29,416
      Did I wish that we could      
         somehow back away?         

1373
01:09:29,458 --> 01:09:30,751
      But not without amnesty.      

1374
01:09:30,792 --> 01:09:31,877
             [reporter]             
       How do the inmates feel      

1375
01:09:31,919 --> 01:09:33,629
    about the current situation?    

1376
01:09:33,670 --> 01:09:36,757
        A group of us were in       
          with the inmates.         

1377
01:09:36,798 --> 01:09:39,092
          We met with them.         

1378
01:09:39,134 --> 01:09:42,846
    We had two and a half hours.    
    Some of the people are here.    

1379
01:09:42,888 --> 01:09:44,514
         But we really have         
       nothing to say about it      

1380
01:09:44,556 --> 01:09:48,018
    except they are firm in their   
       demands, and that's it.      

1381
01:09:48,060 --> 01:09:49,937
     In other words, they're not    
      gonna let the hostages go     

1382
01:09:49,978 --> 01:09:51,688
        until they're granted       
           total amnesty.           

1383
01:09:51,730 --> 01:09:53,565
    That was their last position.   

1384
01:09:59,154 --> 01:10:00,781
             [reporter]             
         The flag at half staff      

1385
01:10:00,822 --> 01:10:02,741
         for the injured guard       
     who had died the night before   

1386
01:10:02,783 --> 01:10:04,451
       set the mood this morning.    

1387
01:10:04,493 --> 01:10:05,827
     It was clear that the troubles 
        of this troubled prison      

1388
01:10:05,869 --> 01:10:07,704
            had grown worse.         

1389
01:10:07,746 --> 01:10:10,707
   [Larkins]   That Sunday, you had   
        that fog that came over,     

1390
01:10:10,749 --> 01:10:13,126
     and it was a certain chill     
             in the air.            

1391
01:10:13,168 --> 01:10:15,671
         You know, something        
         didn't feel right.         

1392
01:10:15,712 --> 01:10:18,006
        It didn't feel right.       

1393
01:10:18,048 --> 01:10:19,716
        [reporter]   There are        
       strong indications tonight    

1394
01:10:19,758 --> 01:10:21,551
        that police will be sent     
          into the cell block        

1395
01:10:21,593 --> 01:10:23,220
        in an attempt to rescue      

1396
01:10:23,262 --> 01:10:25,639
        the rest of the hostages     
               by force.             

1397
01:10:25,681 --> 01:10:29,726
                                  

1398
01:10:29,768 --> 01:10:31,603
              [Sharif]              
           Water was cut off.        

1399
01:10:31,645 --> 01:10:33,897
        Food was getting scarce.     

1400
01:10:33,939 --> 01:10:36,233
      Patience was getting short.    

1401
01:10:36,275 --> 01:10:39,152
       And people were totally      
              wondering             

1402
01:10:39,194 --> 01:10:42,155
          what is gonna be          
    the outcome of the situation.   

1403
01:10:50,622 --> 01:10:52,165
               [Dunne]              
      There was enormous pressure,   

1404
01:10:52,207 --> 01:10:55,043
           and I witnessed it        
          as I took a breather       

1405
01:10:55,085 --> 01:10:58,839
              and went out           
          to the public space,       

1406
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:00,674
        just outside the prison,     

1407
01:11:00,716 --> 01:11:03,010
             where a lot of          
          correction officers,       

1408
01:11:03,051 --> 01:11:05,012
      their families, troopers,     

1409
01:11:05,053 --> 01:11:06,847
         and other officials        
       were gathered together.      

1410
01:11:09,224 --> 01:11:12,019
      [Gaynes]   I mean, the news     
      was completely about that--    

1411
01:11:12,060 --> 01:11:13,687
               you know,             
        that the state troopers      

1412
01:11:13,729 --> 01:11:17,691
       and everybody were poised     
        on the top, looking in.      

1413
01:11:17,733 --> 01:11:20,694
    It was all about these rumors   

1414
01:11:20,736 --> 01:11:23,655
         that the prisoners         

1415
01:11:23,697 --> 01:11:27,117
    were castrating the hostages,   

1416
01:11:27,159 --> 01:11:30,495
   that they were torturing them,   

1417
01:11:30,537 --> 01:11:32,873
           and it's gonna end        
             in bloodshed.           

1418
01:11:32,914 --> 01:11:37,711
       And that was the storyline    
      that was terrifying people.    

1419
01:11:37,753 --> 01:11:39,296
      [reporter] Could you turn     
   around this way, to the camera? 

1420
01:11:39,338 --> 01:11:42,424
          [Johnson]   I think         
        I did a few interviews,      

1421
01:11:42,466 --> 01:11:45,594
        and the people were--       
         made it very clear         

1422
01:11:45,635 --> 01:11:48,263
      that these are bad people     
              in there,             

1423
01:11:48,305 --> 01:11:51,683
         and they shouldn't         
           be doing this,           

1424
01:11:51,725 --> 01:11:53,810
        you know, they should       
          be taken care of.         

1425
01:11:53,852 --> 01:11:55,479
        You know what I mean.       
       They should hang them.       

1426
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:58,106
          And crazy stuff.          

1427
01:11:58,148 --> 01:12:00,901
               I mean,              
      it was just really crazy.     

1428
01:12:00,942 --> 01:12:03,487
        It was a very hostile       
            environment.            

1429
01:12:03,528 --> 01:12:05,822
        I'd like to show them       
         a little brutality.        

1430
01:12:05,864 --> 01:12:08,909
        Is this being brutal        
            to us or not?           

1431
01:12:08,950 --> 01:12:12,037
    Don't point that bitch at me.   
     I'll stick it up your ass!     

1432
01:12:12,079 --> 01:12:14,081
   I'm a father of eight children, 

1433
01:12:14,122 --> 01:12:15,874
     and Michael is the oldest,     

1434
01:12:15,916 --> 01:12:18,752
     and I wouldn't want to see     
        any one of them die.        

1435
01:12:18,794 --> 01:12:20,921
       But if he is gonna die,      

1436
01:12:20,962 --> 01:12:24,341
    I want that whole damn thing    
     bombed right the hell off.     

1437
01:12:26,927 --> 01:12:28,095
             [reporter]             
       While the talking went on,    

1438
01:12:28,136 --> 01:12:30,097
            the state police         
           kept reinforcing.         

1439
01:12:30,138 --> 01:12:32,933
            At least 500 men         
        in and out of the walls.     

1440
01:12:32,974 --> 01:12:35,352
         No indication that any      
      of this force will be used,    

1441
01:12:35,394 --> 01:12:37,687
       but the police are ready.     

1442
01:12:37,729 --> 01:12:39,815
               [Steel]              
        Well, any time you went      

1443
01:12:39,856 --> 01:12:43,735
       in and out of the prison,     
           there was an army,        

1444
01:12:43,777 --> 01:12:45,487
          and they were armed        

1445
01:12:45,529 --> 01:12:49,616
         with every conceivable      
            type of weapon.          

1446
01:12:49,658 --> 01:12:54,121
      And it really looked like     

1447
01:12:54,162 --> 01:12:56,665
         they wanted to use         
           those weapons.           

1448
01:12:56,706 --> 01:12:59,793
          You had the sense         
           of their anger,          

1449
01:12:59,835 --> 01:13:01,920
     and they'd been held back,     
               and...               

1450
01:13:05,632 --> 01:13:07,134
       ...they wanted to move.      

1451
01:13:07,175 --> 01:13:11,138
     They wanted to--to attack.     

1452
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:17,936
       [Dunne]   Yeah, they were      
            very impatient.          

1453
01:13:17,978 --> 01:13:20,063
             Very unhappy.           

1454
01:13:20,522 --> 01:13:23,275
        They were all thrown        
          into a situation          

1455
01:13:23,316 --> 01:13:25,652
           which they were          
          not prepared for,         

1456
01:13:25,694 --> 01:13:29,865
        and about which they had     
        basically an animosity.      

1457
01:13:34,035 --> 01:13:35,829
       [Cunningham]   I wish you      
       would take any of the men     

1458
01:13:35,871 --> 01:13:37,664
           that belongs to us        
             off the roof,           

1459
01:13:37,706 --> 01:13:39,791
       and any of the troopers      
            out of here,            

1460
01:13:39,833 --> 01:13:42,377
         because if you get         
    these shaky guys shooting off   

1461
01:13:42,419 --> 01:13:44,838
      or getting up in a goober     
           over something,          

1462
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:48,341
    somebody's gonna get excited,   
    and then we're all gonna pay.   

1463
01:13:48,383 --> 01:13:50,469
      Now, this is not a joke.      

1464
01:13:50,510 --> 01:13:52,888
           This is not a--          

1465
01:13:52,929 --> 01:13:55,849
   some kind of a little tea party 
            we got here.            

1466
01:13:55,891 --> 01:13:57,976
         [Smith]   I just hope        
         that the commissioner       

1467
01:13:58,018 --> 01:13:59,561
          and the other people       
            in the committee         

1468
01:13:59,603 --> 01:14:02,230
   that they've gathered together   

1469
01:14:02,272 --> 01:14:05,066
     can come up with a solution    

1470
01:14:05,108 --> 01:14:09,237
           to solve these           
    people's problems, and ours.    

1471
01:14:09,279 --> 01:14:11,031
             [reporter]             
        Thank you very much.        

1472
01:14:14,784 --> 01:14:18,038
               [Dunne]              
         Late Sunday afternoon,      

1473
01:14:18,079 --> 01:14:20,373
          Commissioner Oswald        
           and the officials         

1474
01:14:20,415 --> 01:14:23,877
             were prepared           
       and intended to retaking.     

1475
01:14:25,921 --> 01:14:29,841
        But I pressed Oswald        
        to agree to give them       

1476
01:14:29,883 --> 01:14:32,385
         until seven o'clock        
         on Monday morning.         

1477
01:14:32,427 --> 01:14:35,555
         By Sunday morning,         
     everything else had failed.    

1478
01:14:35,597 --> 01:14:38,225
            And so the--            

1479
01:14:38,266 --> 01:14:41,353
           the final shot           

1480
01:14:41,394 --> 01:14:45,398
           was going to be          
    to try to get to Rockefeller.   

1481
01:14:45,440 --> 01:14:50,028
    And there was a committee of    
   people put together to do that. 

1482
01:14:50,070 --> 01:14:52,531
       Good morning, Governor.      

1483
01:14:52,572 --> 01:14:55,492
   [Dunne]   We wanted four friends   
            of the governor          

1484
01:14:55,534 --> 01:14:58,203
            to call him and,         
        "Please, as your friend,     

1485
01:14:58,245 --> 01:15:00,956
             let me ask you          
           to come to Attica.        

1486
01:15:00,997 --> 01:15:02,624
   Not to meet with the prisoners, 

1487
01:15:02,666 --> 01:15:07,170
    but to come and lay your hand   
    on approving these measures."   

1488
01:15:07,212 --> 01:15:11,132
      Sergeant Cunningham, now,     
     would you give us a message    

1489
01:15:11,174 --> 01:15:14,386
            for Governor            
         Nelson Rockefeller?        

1490
01:15:14,427 --> 01:15:15,804
         I certainly would.         

1491
01:15:15,845 --> 01:15:17,347
   One of the recommendations is,   

1492
01:15:17,389 --> 01:15:19,933
   "And if he says no, I'm dead."   

1493
01:15:19,975 --> 01:15:22,018
   I and some of my fellow members 

1494
01:15:22,060 --> 01:15:24,938
     of the observers committee     
         felt very strongly         

1495
01:15:24,980 --> 01:15:27,774
    that if Governor Rockefeller    
           were to come to          

1496
01:15:27,816 --> 01:15:30,777
            and identify            
      with finding a solution,      

1497
01:15:30,819 --> 01:15:33,905
        it might have broken        
             the logjam.            

1498
01:15:33,947 --> 01:15:36,074
           So I placed a call        
        to Governor Rockefeller      

1499
01:15:36,116 --> 01:15:37,784
            somewhere around         
             three o'clock.          

1500
01:15:37,826 --> 01:15:41,538
      Governor, what about your     
    personal feelings right now?    

1501
01:15:41,580 --> 01:15:44,082
        [Steel]   On one level,       
          it was a Hail Mary.        

1502
01:15:44,124 --> 01:15:47,002
          On the other level,        
     it was more than a Hail Mary.   

1503
01:15:47,043 --> 01:15:51,172
      These were prominent people.   

1504
01:15:51,214 --> 01:15:53,425
      People that you would think    

1505
01:15:53,466 --> 01:15:56,386
         Rockefeller respected,      

1506
01:15:56,428 --> 01:15:59,055
       making a sincere pitch.      

1507
01:15:59,097 --> 01:16:01,725
           "Come up here.           
      You don't have to go in.      

1508
01:16:01,766 --> 01:16:03,602
       You don't have to agree      
            to anything.            

1509
01:16:03,643 --> 01:16:06,438
            Your presence           
         will have meaning."        

1510
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:09,691
           Maybe if he came,         
        that would be an opening     

1511
01:16:09,733 --> 01:16:13,028
     that would have allowed us     
            to negotiate.           

1512
01:16:13,069 --> 01:16:17,449
    Maybe some other negotiators    

1513
01:16:17,490 --> 01:16:20,660
         could be brought in        
   who would help the negotiation. 

1514
01:16:20,702 --> 01:16:23,997
        Maybe, maybe, maybe,        
            maybe, maybe.           

1515
01:16:24,039 --> 01:16:26,875
        But "no, no, no, no"        

1516
01:16:26,916 --> 01:16:29,794
                meant               
    "death, death, death, death."   

1517
01:16:29,836 --> 01:16:31,504
            [Rockefeller]           
    Prisoners had been demanding    

1518
01:16:31,546 --> 01:16:33,673
       from the very beginning      
     that I come into the yard,     

1519
01:16:33,715 --> 01:16:38,303
       and I frankly felt that      
       the idea of governors--      

1520
01:16:38,345 --> 01:16:40,263
   any time there was an uprising   

1521
01:16:40,305 --> 01:16:42,766
             or any time            
    there was a prisoner taken--    

1522
01:16:42,807 --> 01:16:44,851
           not a prisoner,          
        but a hostage taken--       

1523
01:16:44,893 --> 01:16:46,978
           being involved           
        in the negotiation--        

1524
01:16:47,020 --> 01:16:48,313
      the next thing would be,      
    "We don't want the governor.    

1525
01:16:48,355 --> 01:16:49,939
       We want the president."      

1526
01:16:49,981 --> 01:16:51,566
     Then we get to a situation     

1527
01:16:51,608 --> 01:16:53,193
     which is an impossible one     
          for this country.         

1528
01:16:53,234 --> 01:16:54,903
   By the time they spoke to him,   

1529
01:16:54,944 --> 01:16:57,322
      he had made up his mind.      

1530
01:16:57,364 --> 01:17:01,117
       He listened carefully,       
        he listened politely,       

1531
01:17:01,159 --> 01:17:03,370
              but by then,           
        he had made up his mind.     

1532
01:17:05,497 --> 01:17:07,666
        We didn't understand        
           the background           

1533
01:17:07,707 --> 01:17:11,086
      of his having consulted,      
        on an ongoing basis,        

1534
01:17:11,127 --> 01:17:14,214
         during those days,         
        with the White House.       

1535
01:17:14,255 --> 01:17:17,467
         The administration         
   in Washington encouraged Rocky   

1536
01:17:17,509 --> 01:17:20,387
          to take a strong,         
         hardline position,         

1537
01:17:20,428 --> 01:17:23,056
       which was unfortunate.       

1538
01:17:23,098 --> 01:17:24,891
           It was all a part         
          of President Nixon's       

1539
01:17:24,933 --> 01:17:26,393
         law and order agenda.       

1540
01:17:37,946 --> 01:17:40,949
     [Scott]   Rockefeller wasn't     
           calling the shots,        

1541
01:17:40,990 --> 01:17:44,494
      because he was on the phone    

1542
01:17:44,536 --> 01:17:46,329
          with Richard Nixon.        

1543
01:17:48,623 --> 01:17:51,209
         Rockefeller wanted         
         to be president...         

1544
01:17:52,627 --> 01:17:56,548
       ...but the word on him was    
     that he was too soft on crime. 

1545
01:18:07,684 --> 01:18:11,771
            And if he wanted         
          the support of Nixon       

1546
01:18:11,813 --> 01:18:13,815
       and the Republican Party,     

1547
01:18:13,857 --> 01:18:17,986
     then he needed to go along.    

1548
01:18:18,027 --> 01:18:20,071
      And so he wouldn't come.      

1549
01:18:20,113 --> 01:18:23,032
         tense music playing       

1550
01:18:23,074 --> 01:18:25,952
                                  

1551
01:18:25,994 --> 01:18:27,245
         [Nieves]   You know,         
          now that Rockefeller       

1552
01:18:27,287 --> 01:18:28,913
          wasn't coming in...        

1553
01:18:31,374 --> 01:18:34,127
        ...it's like slamming       
          the door on you.          

1554
01:18:34,169 --> 01:18:35,795
              You know,             
       they slammed the door,       

1555
01:18:35,837 --> 01:18:38,465
   and we was locked in this room   
   and we didn't know what to do.   

1556
01:18:40,091 --> 01:18:42,802
           [Dunne]   We were          
      to a great degree despondent   

1557
01:18:42,844 --> 01:18:45,638
              that we had            
          no solution to this.       

1558
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:48,224
     We didn't know what to do.     

1559
01:18:48,266 --> 01:18:49,768
        We made one last chance      

1560
01:18:49,809 --> 01:18:52,812
        to convince the inmates      
             to surrender.           

1561
01:18:58,735 --> 01:19:01,488
       [Jones]   That last night      
           in cell block D...        

1562
01:19:03,406 --> 01:19:07,035
        ...as we were trying        
            to negotiate            

1563
01:19:07,076 --> 01:19:11,790
       demands that we thought      
          were realistic...         

1564
01:19:15,210 --> 01:19:19,672
   ...was a come-to-Jesus moment.   

1565
01:19:21,299 --> 01:19:24,719
       "This is what you wanted--    
              the demands.           

1566
01:19:24,761 --> 01:19:26,846
          This is what we were       
            able to achieve.         

1567
01:19:26,888 --> 01:19:29,891
      This is where we stand now.    

1568
01:19:32,143 --> 01:19:34,604
      I'm not gonna mislead you     

1569
01:19:34,646 --> 01:19:37,816
      and believe that you can      
        get anything better.        

1570
01:19:37,857 --> 01:19:40,652
          I do not believe          
    you can get anything better.    

1571
01:19:43,238 --> 01:19:47,033
       I think we have to make      
     a peaceful accommodation...    

1572
01:19:48,952 --> 01:19:50,954
           ...rather than be         
         shot down like dogs."       

1573
01:19:53,331 --> 01:19:56,084
               I said,              
     "This is what we achieved.     

1574
01:19:56,125 --> 01:19:58,294
                Okay?               

1575
01:19:58,336 --> 01:20:00,588
      And turn around and look.     

1576
01:20:00,630 --> 01:20:02,715
            Cell block--            
       you see all those guns?      

1577
01:20:02,757 --> 01:20:04,926
        They're just waiting        
             to kill us.            

1578
01:20:04,968 --> 01:20:07,595
        They want to kill us.       
       Do you understand that?      

1579
01:20:07,637 --> 01:20:10,890
          They want to show         
      that they have the power      

1580
01:20:10,932 --> 01:20:12,183
      from the barrel of a gun.     

1581
01:20:12,225 --> 01:20:13,309
    That's what they want to do."   

1582
01:20:16,771 --> 01:20:19,566
      [Victory]   We were warned      
            by the observers         

1583
01:20:19,607 --> 01:20:23,778
        that if we didn't settle     
       even without the amnesty,     

1584
01:20:23,820 --> 01:20:27,574
      they were gonna come in,      
     and it could get very bad.     

1585
01:20:29,284 --> 01:20:32,328
       And, of course, we talked     
           amongst ourselves,        

1586
01:20:32,370 --> 01:20:36,249
       and we just couldn't go      
        without the amnesty,        

1587
01:20:36,291 --> 01:20:38,418
      'cause it would have been     
              literally             

1588
01:20:38,459 --> 01:20:41,546
     sending all our leaders...     

1589
01:20:41,588 --> 01:20:45,008
    to the dogs, to be tortured,    

1590
01:20:45,049 --> 01:20:48,970
            murdered, uh,           
        convicted of crimes,        

1591
01:20:49,012 --> 01:20:51,264
      and who knows what else?      

1592
01:20:51,306 --> 01:20:54,726
           We had observed          
          the organization          

1593
01:20:54,767 --> 01:20:57,270
           and preparation          
      of the troopers to enter,     

1594
01:20:57,312 --> 01:21:00,189
          hundreds of them,         
        with their shotguns,        

1595
01:21:00,231 --> 01:21:04,235
            just outside            
    the immediate area of D yard.   

1596
01:21:04,277 --> 01:21:07,614
      We witnessed the stationing    
            of sharpshooters         

1597
01:21:07,655 --> 01:21:12,619
          on one of the ledges       
       looking down into D yard.     

1598
01:21:12,660 --> 01:21:16,956
             Fear overtook           
        the observers committee.     

1599
01:21:19,918 --> 01:21:21,252
              [Sharif]              
        It seemed like they felt     

1600
01:21:21,294 --> 01:21:23,046
      something was gonna happen.    

1601
01:21:23,087 --> 01:21:25,548
           They were more...         

1602
01:21:25,590 --> 01:21:27,258
           hesitant to leave.        

1603
01:21:27,300 --> 01:21:28,635
     They leave with a solemn mood. 

1604
01:21:28,676 --> 01:21:30,219
              They left us           
          with a solemn mood.        

1605
01:21:30,261 --> 01:21:33,932
       It was like, "Brothers,      

1606
01:21:33,973 --> 01:21:36,142
          just be careful,          
          just take care."          

1607
01:21:38,519 --> 01:21:41,314
         [Nieves]   I remember        
     seeing them leaving, you know, 

1608
01:21:41,356 --> 01:21:44,859
       and it was a scary moment     
          to see them leaving,       

1609
01:21:44,901 --> 01:21:47,362
       you know, knowing that       
      they wasn't coming back.      

1610
01:21:50,990 --> 01:21:53,159
               [Scott]              
      I remember Big Black saying,   

1611
01:21:53,201 --> 01:21:56,162
          "I want to thank you       
     for what you guys tried to do. 

1612
01:21:56,204 --> 01:21:57,789
       We really appreciate it."     

1613
01:21:57,830 --> 01:22:00,500
      So there was a lot of that.    

1614
01:22:00,541 --> 01:22:03,127
    When we went out of that yard   
            that night...           

1615
01:22:05,046 --> 01:22:07,006
        ...there were tears.        

1616
01:22:07,048 --> 01:22:08,299
          There were tears.         

1617
01:22:10,635 --> 01:22:13,513
        And I think all of us       
             were hoping            

1618
01:22:13,554 --> 01:22:17,892
       that something happened      
   at the last minute to stop it.   

1619
01:22:19,978 --> 01:22:23,606
               [Jones]              
        I felt complete failure.     

1620
01:22:23,648 --> 01:22:28,027
               A failure             
       that I had let them down.     

1621
01:22:28,069 --> 01:22:31,364
   One of the most painful things   

1622
01:22:31,406 --> 01:22:34,200
     is when inmates began to...    

1623
01:22:34,242 --> 01:22:36,703
       hand me written notes,       

1624
01:22:36,744 --> 01:22:39,956
   the telephone number of their-- 

1625
01:22:39,998 --> 01:22:44,419
        of their next of kin,       

1626
01:22:44,460 --> 01:22:46,504
    in case they didn't make it.    

1627
01:22:46,546 --> 01:22:47,547
                Okay?               

1628
01:22:47,588 --> 01:22:50,508
       They wanted me--I mean,      

1629
01:22:50,550 --> 01:22:53,511
     a couple of them looked me     
       in the eye with tears.       

1630
01:22:53,553 --> 01:22:56,014
           "Brother Jones,          
         if I don't make it,        

1631
01:22:56,055 --> 01:22:57,223
     you're gonna call, right?"     

1632
01:22:57,265 --> 01:22:59,976
     I said, "You have my word.     

1633
01:23:00,018 --> 01:23:02,437
            I will call."           

1634
01:23:02,478 --> 01:23:05,023
             [reporter]             
     Are you any way optimistic     

1635
01:23:05,064 --> 01:23:07,233
   that this thing can be settled   
        by sometime tomorrow?       

1636
01:23:07,275 --> 01:23:08,693
     I think I'm much too tired     

1637
01:23:08,735 --> 01:23:10,319
       to be either optimistic      
           or pessimistic.          

1638
01:23:10,361 --> 01:23:13,406
           At the moment,           
    I'm kind of just freaked out.   

1639
01:23:13,448 --> 01:23:16,367
         [thunder rumbling]         

1640
01:23:24,584 --> 01:23:26,544
        It rained all night.        

1641
01:23:26,586 --> 01:23:28,921
       It didn't stop raining       
             till about             

1642
01:23:28,963 --> 01:23:31,257
         six in the morning.        

1643
01:23:31,299 --> 01:23:34,927
        Cold, mountain rain.        

1644
01:23:34,969 --> 01:23:37,597
           And we were not          
          prepared for it.          

1645
01:23:37,638 --> 01:23:40,641
          Those little hooches       
              that we had,           

1646
01:23:40,683 --> 01:23:44,604
     them tents that people had dug 
      the yard up and everything,    

1647
01:23:44,645 --> 01:23:46,731
      all them started collapsing.   

1648
01:23:46,773 --> 01:23:50,902
         And you had to get         
          on solid ground,          

1649
01:23:50,943 --> 01:23:54,447
   concrete, and huddle together,   

1650
01:23:54,489 --> 01:23:57,742
   'cause everybody was shivering   
        and everything else.        

1651
01:23:57,784 --> 01:23:59,327
      It was a miserable night.     

1652
01:23:59,368 --> 01:24:03,456
   One of the miserable-est nights 
      I ever spent in my life.      

1653
01:24:05,958 --> 01:24:07,710
        [Sharif]   I could feel       
        the tension in the air.      

1654
01:24:07,752 --> 01:24:09,504
       The tension was so strong     

1655
01:24:09,545 --> 01:24:13,341
      that I could just basically    
       grab it and hold on to it.    

1656
01:24:13,382 --> 01:24:16,636
          "Am I gonna make it?       
     Am I gonna live through this?" 

1657
01:24:16,677 --> 01:24:20,098
   And that tension was so strong, 
          I could touch it,         

1658
01:24:20,139 --> 01:24:22,308
             I could cut            
       and hold it in my hand.      

1659
01:24:25,019 --> 01:24:26,979
     Death was written in the air.   

1660
01:24:27,021 --> 01:24:31,984
                                  

1661
01:24:32,026 --> 01:24:34,153
        [Harrison]   We've been       
     out there for about four days. 

1662
01:24:34,195 --> 01:24:35,988
        We wake up that morning,     

1663
01:24:36,030 --> 01:24:39,075
       and it's wet and dreary      
             out there.             

1664
01:24:39,117 --> 01:24:41,452
       And you could always smell    

1665
01:24:41,494 --> 01:24:44,455
        the fumes of guys' body      

1666
01:24:44,497 --> 01:24:46,624
             in that trench          
        that we dug in the yard      

1667
01:24:46,666 --> 01:24:50,128
          to use the bathroom,       
      right there in front of us,    

1668
01:24:50,169 --> 01:24:52,630
    so you breathing this shit in   
      all day, so you want out.     

1669
01:24:56,592 --> 01:24:58,469
             [Killebrew]            
      The weather was really bad.    

1670
01:24:58,511 --> 01:25:01,597
    People's moods was that way,    
             and, uh...             

1671
01:25:01,639 --> 01:25:03,266
           it was cloudy.           

1672
01:25:03,307 --> 01:25:05,226
         It started to rain         
            a little bit.           

1673
01:25:05,268 --> 01:25:07,728
       You know, it was dark.       
       The sky was dark gray.       

1674
01:25:12,358 --> 01:25:13,651
             [Crawford]             
     We heard that we would be part 

1675
01:25:13,693 --> 01:25:16,529
        of a medical evacuation.     

1676
01:25:16,571 --> 01:25:19,157
      And early on Monday morning,   

1677
01:25:19,198 --> 01:25:21,534
         we loaded into trucks       
     and headed for Attica prison.   

1678
01:25:24,745 --> 01:25:26,747
    In the three years that I was   
       in the National Guard,       

1679
01:25:26,789 --> 01:25:29,167
           I had not seen           
         any kind of action         

1680
01:25:29,208 --> 01:25:31,711
   in which violence was involved. 

1681
01:25:31,752 --> 01:25:34,046
      But we had a sense of dread,   

1682
01:25:34,088 --> 01:25:37,675
           and we had a wish         
     that we could kind of not go.   

1683
01:25:37,717 --> 01:25:40,344
        And there was the hope,      
        even at the last minute,     

1684
01:25:40,386 --> 01:25:43,598
         that by some miracle,       

1685
01:25:43,639 --> 01:25:45,850
          maybe Rockefeller         
          would intervene.          

1686
01:25:48,769 --> 01:25:51,564
       [Kunstler]   His refusal       
     to come here is a monstrosity, 

1687
01:25:51,606 --> 01:25:53,065
    because what he is saying is,   

1688
01:25:53,107 --> 01:25:56,235
          "Kill these men.          
         I have no concern.         

1689
01:25:56,277 --> 01:25:59,614
          All I want to do          
     is restore law and order."     

1690
01:25:59,655 --> 01:26:02,241
         And I think that's         
    a rotten exchange for lives.    

1691
01:26:03,910 --> 01:26:06,037
             [Callaghan]            
       When we got to the prison     

1692
01:26:06,078 --> 01:26:08,998
           and saw the lines         
           of state troopers         

1693
01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:11,876
            and deputies            
       with their raincoats on      

1694
01:26:11,918 --> 01:26:16,214
     and their weapons in hand,     
       they looked exhausted.       

1695
01:26:16,255 --> 01:26:17,632
          They had been there,       
             many of them,           

1696
01:26:17,673 --> 01:26:20,384
         for a couple of days,       
               at least,             

1697
01:26:20,426 --> 01:26:22,553
         and they really didn't      
          look up to the task        

1698
01:26:22,595 --> 01:26:24,013
        that was given to them.      

1699
01:26:24,055 --> 01:26:28,309
                                  

1700
01:26:31,187 --> 01:26:32,063
             [Killebrew]            
       I knew they was coming in.    

1701
01:26:32,104 --> 01:26:33,731
            You could tell.          

1702
01:26:33,773 --> 01:26:35,399
      You could see them starting    
          to get more people.        

1703
01:26:35,441 --> 01:26:36,692
       I was in A block corridor.    

1704
01:26:38,486 --> 01:26:39,987
          All I saw was blue.        

1705
01:26:43,866 --> 01:26:46,535
       We got another mattress      
       to put up on that table      

1706
01:26:46,577 --> 01:26:48,871
     'cause we thought they was     
     gonna shoot rubber bullets.    

1707
01:26:48,913 --> 01:26:52,750
         And that's--that's         
         what the word was.         

1708
01:26:55,670 --> 01:26:57,129
             [Harrison]             
     I thought there were gonna be   

1709
01:26:57,171 --> 01:26:58,506
         a real, old-fashioned       
              gang fight,            

1710
01:26:58,547 --> 01:26:59,590
             if that's what          
          you want to call it.       

1711
01:26:59,632 --> 01:27:01,259
      You know, them versus us.     

1712
01:27:01,300 --> 01:27:03,511
    They got those clubs, we got    
    a few bats and stuff in here,   

1713
01:27:03,552 --> 01:27:07,139
     so we're gonna--best guy win.   

1714
01:27:09,976 --> 01:27:12,770
              [Asbury]              
     We started making preparations 

1715
01:27:12,812 --> 01:27:15,523
        and putting Vaseline        
     on every part of our bodies    

1716
01:27:15,564 --> 01:27:17,149
    that could be exposed to gas    

1717
01:27:17,191 --> 01:27:19,819
       and get burnt and stuff      
             like that,             

1718
01:27:19,860 --> 01:27:22,196
   padding ourselves with clothes. 

1719
01:27:26,242 --> 01:27:27,785
        Some brothers saying,       
       "If they come in here,       

1720
01:27:27,827 --> 01:27:29,537
          then that's good,         
      because I know my shit."      

1721
01:27:29,578 --> 01:27:30,705
                [laughs]             

1722
01:27:32,248 --> 01:27:34,417
              [Oswald]              
        It became apparent to me     

1723
01:27:34,458 --> 01:27:37,712
         that the situation         
    was seriously deteriorating,    

1724
01:27:37,753 --> 01:27:40,506
        and that the inmates,       
      many of whom are confined     

1725
01:27:40,548 --> 01:27:43,050
               to this              
      maximum-security facility     

1726
01:27:43,092 --> 01:27:46,429
   under life and long sentences,   

1727
01:27:46,470 --> 01:27:50,808
    were not going to participate   
     in reasonable negotiation.     

1728
01:27:50,850 --> 01:27:54,937
      Tensions within the walls     
      have steadily increased.      

1729
01:27:54,979 --> 01:27:57,690
             [reporter]             
        The action now underway      

1730
01:27:57,732 --> 01:28:00,943
             was initiated           
        with extreme reluctance,     

1731
01:28:00,985 --> 01:28:03,112
        only after all attempts      

1732
01:28:03,154 --> 01:28:07,366
               to achieve            
      a peaceful solution failed.    

1733
01:28:09,327 --> 01:28:11,579
    [Callaghan]   We were told that   
       our mission was protection    

1734
01:28:11,620 --> 01:28:13,205
       for the medical battalion.    

1735
01:28:13,247 --> 01:28:16,625
         During the commander's      
      briefing, we were told that,   

1736
01:28:16,667 --> 01:28:20,921
           to our knowledge,         
        the inmates had no guns.     

1737
01:28:20,963 --> 01:28:24,759
          They had spears,          
        they had some knives,       

1738
01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:28,429
           they had pipes           
   that they were using as clubs,   

1739
01:28:28,471 --> 01:28:31,098
        but that was the extent      
             of the threat.          

1740
01:28:31,140 --> 01:28:32,850
       So we knew that going in.     

1741
01:28:35,061 --> 01:28:37,396
          [police officer]          
       10:05 a.m., September 13.     

1742
01:28:37,438 --> 01:28:40,399
     We're on the roof of A block,   

1743
01:28:40,441 --> 01:28:43,319
        waiting for the assault      
               to begin.             

1744
01:28:43,361 --> 01:28:46,822
             This is a team          
        of .270 rifle shooters.      

1745
01:28:46,864 --> 01:28:48,908
       The center of our picture     

1746
01:28:48,949 --> 01:28:53,621
      is men distributing baseball   
      bats to the other prisoners.   

1747
01:28:53,662 --> 01:28:56,665
           We had no guns.          
       We had no real weapons.      

1748
01:28:56,707 --> 01:29:01,253
   We had bullshit pieces of stick 
         or a piece of iron         

1749
01:29:01,295 --> 01:29:05,674
   or a shank that somebody made,   
     rubbing it on the sidewalk.    

1750
01:29:05,716 --> 01:29:07,593
      It was--it was pathetic.      

1751
01:29:08,719 --> 01:29:11,097
      [reporter]   Just four days     
          almost to the minute       

1752
01:29:11,138 --> 01:29:13,599
     after the convict insurrection 
                started.             

1753
01:29:13,641 --> 01:29:16,102
      State police, reinforced      
       by sheriff's deputies,       

1754
01:29:16,143 --> 01:29:17,770
         National Guardsmen,        

1755
01:29:17,812 --> 01:29:20,398
       and correction officers      
      moving in on the prison.      

1756
01:29:20,439 --> 01:29:22,775
          [police officer]          
           Time is 1:55 p.m.         

1757
01:29:22,817 --> 01:29:25,444
     We're on the roof of C block,   

1758
01:29:25,486 --> 01:29:28,989
          looking at a detail        
           of .270 marksmen,         

1759
01:29:29,031 --> 01:29:33,869
       with instructions to clear    
       the catwalks upon command.    

1760
01:29:33,911 --> 01:29:36,080
              [Victory]             
     They took some of the hostages 

1761
01:29:36,122 --> 01:29:38,707
        on top of the catwalks,      

1762
01:29:38,749 --> 01:29:40,835
            which is on top          
            of the hallways,         

1763
01:29:40,876 --> 01:29:44,964
       and some of the inmates      
     held knives to their neck,     

1764
01:29:45,005 --> 01:29:49,677
         as an--in an effort        
     to try to stop the assault.    

1765
01:29:49,718 --> 01:29:51,637
    [police officer]   The hostages   
          are on the catwalks        

1766
01:29:51,679 --> 01:29:53,848
     with knives at their throats.   

1767
01:29:53,889 --> 01:29:57,101
              [Victory]             
         It was all just a show      

1768
01:29:57,143 --> 01:29:59,103
       to try to get them to say,    
          "Oh, wait a minute!        

1769
01:29:59,145 --> 01:30:00,771
     That's my cousin, my brother." 

1770
01:30:00,813 --> 01:30:03,232
          All these guards...        

1771
01:30:03,274 --> 01:30:05,317
           we were hopeful          
       that if they saw this,       

1772
01:30:05,359 --> 01:30:09,196
         they would back off        
       and try to renegotiate       

1773
01:30:09,238 --> 01:30:11,115
        so they could protect       
          their own people.         

1774
01:30:13,576 --> 01:30:16,787
             [Whiteman]             
        The notion of sending in     

1775
01:30:16,829 --> 01:30:19,123
         correctional officers,      

1776
01:30:19,165 --> 01:30:22,168
    who didn't love the prisoners   
           to begin with,           

1777
01:30:22,209 --> 01:30:24,879
          and state police,         
       who were stressed out,       

1778
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:26,672
    was a serious miscalculation.   

1779
01:30:26,714 --> 01:30:29,049
     Somebody should have said,     
   "Wait a second, wait a second.   

1780
01:30:29,091 --> 01:30:31,802
      These people are on edge.     

1781
01:30:31,844 --> 01:30:34,180
         There's hostility.         

1782
01:30:37,391 --> 01:30:40,436
   It's gonna get out of control." 

1783
01:30:40,478 --> 01:30:42,771
          We know that now.         

1784
01:30:42,813 --> 01:30:45,232
   Did we know that in real time?   

1785
01:30:47,610 --> 01:30:49,695
            I guess not.            

1786
01:30:52,364 --> 01:30:56,869
        [Brosig]   I seen this        
          as a glorious fight.       

1787
01:30:56,911 --> 01:30:59,830
     They would come in with batons 
          and stuff like that,       

1788
01:30:59,872 --> 01:31:02,875
        and we would be fighting     

1789
01:31:02,917 --> 01:31:04,960
            the brave battle         
           with baseball bats        

1790
01:31:05,002 --> 01:31:06,462
          and stuff like that.       

1791
01:31:06,504 --> 01:31:08,047
                I...                

1792
01:31:08,088 --> 01:31:09,840
               [sobs]               

1793
01:31:09,882 --> 01:31:14,762
                                  

1794
01:31:19,266 --> 01:31:20,476
          [voice breaking]          
              I just--              

1795
01:31:25,856 --> 01:31:27,733
      I just never expected...      

1796
01:31:29,944 --> 01:31:31,737
           ...the carnage           
     that would actually happen.    

1797
01:31:31,779 --> 01:31:33,113
             I'm sorry.             

1798
01:31:48,504 --> 01:31:50,047
             [reporter]             
     Here come the helicopters.     

1799
01:31:50,089 --> 01:31:53,425
        They are now heading        
           for the prison.          

1800
01:31:55,344 --> 01:31:57,471
          One of the large          
          army helicopters          

1801
01:31:57,513 --> 01:31:59,139
         now going overhead         
         and over the wall,         

1802
01:31:59,181 --> 01:32:00,432
          into the prison.          

1803
01:32:02,309 --> 01:32:06,021
         It just gets quiet,        
    and the sky was getting dark.   

1804
01:32:06,063 --> 01:32:07,856
          And then we heard         
          the helicopters.          

1805
01:32:07,898 --> 01:32:10,484
       And I said, "Damn, man.      
      This is fucking strange."     

1806
01:32:14,655 --> 01:32:17,366
       [Brosig]   The helicopter      
        comes up over the wall,      

1807
01:32:17,408 --> 01:32:19,034
          and it's hovering         
           over the yard.           

1808
01:32:23,247 --> 01:32:26,125
            I seen this--           
     I thought it was a monster.    

1809
01:32:26,166 --> 01:32:28,711
        It was a helicopter,        
         a green helicopter,        

1810
01:32:28,752 --> 01:32:30,296
       and it was flying low.       

1811
01:32:35,134 --> 01:32:37,720
              [Larkins]             
           And you see this--        

1812
01:32:37,761 --> 01:32:40,764
      it's like a sickly green gas   

1813
01:32:40,806 --> 01:32:44,643
       with sparkly stuff in it,     
              coming down.           

1814
01:32:44,685 --> 01:32:46,895
         It tightens your chest      

1815
01:32:46,937 --> 01:32:49,023
     where you can hardly breathe.   

1816
01:32:49,064 --> 01:32:52,234
      That gas knocked me down.     

1817
01:32:52,276 --> 01:32:55,195
      I don't know what that was.    

1818
01:32:55,237 --> 01:32:57,948
        And it had me so weak       
          I could not move.         

1819
01:32:57,990 --> 01:33:01,452
   Your eyes are just all burning. 

1820
01:33:01,493 --> 01:33:04,038
        Your nose is burning.       
       Your mouth is burning.       

1821
01:33:04,079 --> 01:33:05,205
          [police officer]          
          Place your hands          

1822
01:33:05,247 --> 01:33:07,374
         on top of your head        

1823
01:33:07,416 --> 01:33:10,711
    and surrender to an officer.    

1824
01:33:10,753 --> 01:33:14,089
              I repeat:             
       you will not be harmed.      

1825
01:33:14,131 --> 01:33:17,301
          Place your hands          
        on top of your head.        

1826
01:33:17,343 --> 01:33:19,011
       [Harrison]   And they got      
           on the microphone.        

1827
01:33:19,053 --> 01:33:22,765
     "Everybody in D block yard,    
     put your hands in the air,     

1828
01:33:22,806 --> 01:33:24,642
    and you will not be harmed."    

1829
01:33:24,683 --> 01:33:27,686
         "Go to the nearest         
        state police officer,       

1830
01:33:27,728 --> 01:33:29,521
    and you will not be harmed."    

1831
01:33:29,563 --> 01:33:32,691
     -"You will not be harmed."     
     -"You will not be harmed."     

1832
01:33:32,733 --> 01:33:35,486
      "You will not be harmed."     
       But that was bullshit.       

1833
01:33:35,527 --> 01:33:38,447
              [gunfire]             

1834
01:33:44,411 --> 01:33:46,455
     And dudes were standing up     
             doing this             

1835
01:33:46,497 --> 01:33:48,957
       and getting blown away.      

1836
01:33:48,999 --> 01:33:52,336
    They blew a dude's head off,    
       and I'm looking at it.       

1837
01:33:52,378 --> 01:33:53,796
              [Brosig]              
       And it's all of a sudden,     

1838
01:33:53,837 --> 01:33:57,716
       there was all this popping    
             all around us.          

1839
01:33:57,758 --> 01:33:59,885
       And all these little pops     
             all around us           

1840
01:33:59,927 --> 01:34:01,679
         were actually bullets.      

1841
01:34:01,720 --> 01:34:04,723
     [police officer] Surrender.    
       You will not be harmed.      

1842
01:34:04,765 --> 01:34:07,810
     And you couldn't really see    
     because the CO2 pepper gas     

1843
01:34:07,851 --> 01:34:10,020
           had you blind,           

1844
01:34:10,062 --> 01:34:13,357
    but you can hear the bullets    
         going by your head.        

1845
01:34:13,399 --> 01:34:14,900
          [police officer]          
       You will not be harmed.      

1846
01:34:17,403 --> 01:34:19,863
       [reporter]   The hostages      
           can't be seen now.        

1847
01:34:19,905 --> 01:34:22,700
          [police officer]          
    Repeat: surrender peacefully.   

1848
01:34:22,741 --> 01:34:24,410
         And I'm just trying        
       to stay on the ground,       

1849
01:34:24,451 --> 01:34:26,578
         as low as possible.        

1850
01:34:26,620 --> 01:34:29,039
      It was just like they was     
     shooting down in a barrel.     

1851
01:34:29,081 --> 01:34:30,582
     They just started shooting     
         point blank range,         

1852
01:34:30,624 --> 01:34:32,584
         blowing guys away.         

1853
01:34:32,626 --> 01:34:34,753
   I got shot in the arm up there. 

1854
01:34:34,795 --> 01:34:36,505
       Right through the back       
    of my fucking arm and stuff.    

1855
01:34:36,547 --> 01:34:40,092
              [gunfire]             

1856
01:34:40,134 --> 01:34:43,345
     [police officer] I repeat:     
       you will not be harmed.      

1857
01:34:43,387 --> 01:34:47,599
     I felt something go through    
        my head, at my skull,       

1858
01:34:47,641 --> 01:34:50,936
         and it was burning,        
       and I knew I was shot.       

1859
01:34:50,978 --> 01:34:53,897
    I felt something hit my arm,    

1860
01:34:53,939 --> 01:34:55,941
        and my arm went numb,       

1861
01:34:55,983 --> 01:34:58,694
        and I realized later        
   I had got shot in the left arm, 

1862
01:34:58,736 --> 01:35:00,404
   about two inches from my heart. 

1863
01:35:00,446 --> 01:35:03,615
         And I saw one kid,         
    he had a football helmet on.    

1864
01:35:03,657 --> 01:35:05,117
            Spanish kid.            

1865
01:35:05,159 --> 01:35:07,911
            Now, the guards          
         was up on the catwalk,      

1866
01:35:07,953 --> 01:35:10,789
     and he jumps out with a hammer 
           and throws it up,         

1867
01:35:10,831 --> 01:35:13,083
        and it hits the catwalk,     

1868
01:35:13,125 --> 01:35:14,752
           and you could hear        
           the sound--clink--        

1869
01:35:14,793 --> 01:35:17,504
       and all of them turned,      
           looked at him,           

1870
01:35:17,546 --> 01:35:19,548
           and all of them          
      turned their guns on him.     

1871
01:35:19,590 --> 01:35:22,050
        And they just riddled       
          that boy's body.          

1872
01:35:22,092 --> 01:35:25,262
      I'm assuming he got shot      
    anywhere from 20 to 50 shots,   

1873
01:35:25,304 --> 01:35:27,347
           'cause his body          
      was just doing like that.     

1874
01:35:27,389 --> 01:35:28,891
         Like, I never seen         
         no shit like that.         

1875
01:35:28,932 --> 01:35:30,809
       I seen some nasty shit       
           in the streets.          

1876
01:35:30,851 --> 01:35:32,936
   I never seen nothing like that. 

1877
01:35:32,978 --> 01:35:36,273
     [police officer] I repeat:     
       you will not be harmed.      

1878
01:35:36,315 --> 01:35:38,817
          Place your hands          
        on top of your head.        

1879
01:35:38,859 --> 01:35:41,111
         This was a holiday         
           for the police.          

1880
01:35:41,153 --> 01:35:44,156
        We ain't got no guns        
           to shoot back.           

1881
01:35:44,198 --> 01:35:45,824
         You know what it is        
          to shoot somebody         

1882
01:35:45,866 --> 01:35:47,409
     and they can't shoot back?     

1883
01:35:47,451 --> 01:35:49,703
      That's--that's a holiday.     

1884
01:35:49,745 --> 01:35:51,246
          Lord have mercy.          

1885
01:35:51,288 --> 01:35:54,166
    And all they was saying was,    
         "Save me a nigger."        

1886
01:35:55,876 --> 01:35:58,629
   That's what they was hollering   
           to each other.           

1887
01:35:58,670 --> 01:36:01,673
            I was scared.           

1888
01:36:01,715 --> 01:36:04,343
        I've done bad things,       
   but I never did shit this bad.   

1889
01:36:04,384 --> 01:36:06,887
      I said, "Now, these guys      

1890
01:36:06,929 --> 01:36:09,848
          are real fucking          
   cold-blooded killers and shit." 

1891
01:36:12,059 --> 01:36:15,771
      Until that moment came...     

1892
01:36:15,813 --> 01:36:17,981
          where the killing         
           really started,          

1893
01:36:18,023 --> 01:36:20,317
        when I realized that,       

1894
01:36:20,359 --> 01:36:22,736
      "You're not that fucking      
        bad guy no more, man.       

1895
01:36:22,778 --> 01:36:24,029
         These motherfuckers        
         is worse than you."        

1896
01:36:24,071 --> 01:36:27,282
   Every bullet that whizzed by me 

1897
01:36:27,324 --> 01:36:32,037
     or hit the mud close to me,    
              I winced.             

1898
01:36:36,124 --> 01:36:38,710
         Then all of a sudden,       
            it just stopped.         

1899
01:36:38,752 --> 01:36:40,754
          [police officer]          
      Surrender to an officer.      

1900
01:36:42,631 --> 01:36:45,968
              I repeat:             
       you will not be harmed.      

1901
01:36:53,517 --> 01:36:57,437
     [Johnson]   There are people     
     throwing off their smoke gear. 

1902
01:36:57,479 --> 01:37:01,233
       They ran out screaming,      
    "Niggers, niggers, niggers,"    

1903
01:37:01,275 --> 01:37:05,028
           and two of them          
      pointed their guns at me,     

1904
01:37:05,070 --> 01:37:07,823
     saying, "Niggers, niggers,"    
      and I said, "Don't shoot.     

1905
01:37:07,865 --> 01:37:10,742
     Don't shoot. Don't shoot,"     
         while I'm coughing.        

1906
01:37:10,784 --> 01:37:13,245
       We've all been gassed.       

1907
01:37:13,287 --> 01:37:16,915
          I've been gassed.         
        It's an awful scene.        

1908
01:37:16,957 --> 01:37:21,211
      William Kunstler has said     

1909
01:37:21,253 --> 01:37:23,755
   that people are dying in there, 
               and...               

1910
01:37:23,797 --> 01:37:25,632
         [distant gunshots]         

1911
01:37:25,674 --> 01:37:27,175
      ...and I agree with that.     

1912
01:37:27,217 --> 01:37:28,927
    I think that there are people   
           dying in there.          

1913
01:37:28,969 --> 01:37:32,347
    The shooting went on forever.   

1914
01:37:32,389 --> 01:37:35,893
        And then it was like        
       the shooting subsided,       

1915
01:37:35,934 --> 01:37:38,478
       and then I heard some--      

1916
01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:41,023
       after the big shooting       
              subsided,             

1917
01:37:41,064 --> 01:37:43,442
     I heard some single shots.     

1918
01:37:43,483 --> 01:37:47,613
           Bang! And bang!          

1919
01:37:47,654 --> 01:37:50,532
         tense music playing       

1920
01:37:50,574 --> 01:37:55,746
                                  

1921
01:37:55,787 --> 01:37:58,373
   [Victory]   After they took over   
              the prison,            

1922
01:37:58,415 --> 01:38:02,210
     all those folks that had been   
        speaking to the cameras      

1923
01:38:02,252 --> 01:38:05,839
           were all targeted         
             and tortured.           

1924
01:38:05,881 --> 01:38:08,926
       So, yes, yes, yes, yes,      
         they were targeted.        

1925
01:38:11,345 --> 01:38:16,224
        [Scott]   L.D. Barkley,       
      they were calling his name,    

1926
01:38:16,266 --> 01:38:19,227
       going through that fog,      
          looking for him,          

1927
01:38:19,269 --> 01:38:21,021
         and threatening him        

1928
01:38:21,063 --> 01:38:23,732
      with what they were gonna     
              do to him             

1929
01:38:23,774 --> 01:38:25,400
        when they found him.        

1930
01:38:25,442 --> 01:38:26,985
         And they found him.        

1931
01:38:27,027 --> 01:38:31,198
    And he was yelling, "No, no,"   

1932
01:38:31,239 --> 01:38:33,241
     but it's too fucking late;     
         they had him then.         

1933
01:38:33,283 --> 01:38:35,786
        I seen them dragging him     
          towards the A block        

1934
01:38:35,827 --> 01:38:38,497
          far yard over there.       

1935
01:38:38,538 --> 01:38:40,457
            He was hollering         
             and screaming.          

1936
01:38:40,499 --> 01:38:41,750
          And they killed him.       

1937
01:38:53,053 --> 01:38:56,556
          You can't see it,         
    because the gas is so thick.    

1938
01:38:56,598 --> 01:38:58,016
        But all of a sudden,        

1939
01:38:58,058 --> 01:39:00,519
        a puff of wind comes        

1940
01:39:00,560 --> 01:39:03,313
       and disperses the gas,       

1941
01:39:03,355 --> 01:39:05,691
        and then I could see.       

1942
01:39:05,732 --> 01:39:07,317
   And what I saw was frightening. 

1943
01:39:09,528 --> 01:39:13,657
           Hundreds of bodies        
           just laying there.        

1944
01:39:13,699 --> 01:39:16,284
           Some were moaning.        
          Some wasn't moving.        

1945
01:39:16,326 --> 01:39:17,995
         Blood was everywhere.       

1946
01:39:23,834 --> 01:39:26,128
             [Crawford]             
        We were given stretchers     

1947
01:39:26,169 --> 01:39:29,339
             and told to go          
            into the prison.         

1948
01:39:29,381 --> 01:39:31,508
             It was really           
         an unthinkable scene.       

1949
01:39:31,550 --> 01:39:33,844
        It was dead and wounded,     

1950
01:39:33,885 --> 01:39:35,721
          and simply starting        
           to carry them out.        

1951
01:39:37,764 --> 01:39:41,268
           It was far beyond         
        anything I had imagined      

1952
01:39:41,309 --> 01:39:44,312
        when they said we would      
      be doing medical evacuation.   

1953
01:39:44,354 --> 01:39:48,942
     We were basically civilians    
        put into a situation        

1954
01:39:48,984 --> 01:39:51,278
          where state trooper        
        and correction officers      

1955
01:39:51,319 --> 01:39:53,155
        had created a war zone.      

1956
01:39:55,282 --> 01:39:59,327
      There was a pile of bodies,    
       maybe eight or ten people,    

1957
01:39:59,369 --> 01:40:02,622
           and the man on top        
       had had his eyes shot out.    

1958
01:40:02,664 --> 01:40:07,586
                                  

1959
01:40:25,103 --> 01:40:27,689
     [Callaghan]   Right below us,    
         there was a huge pool       

1960
01:40:27,731 --> 01:40:31,902
            of rainwater,           
        and it was blood red.       

1961
01:40:31,943 --> 01:40:36,698
      And I looked down at it,      
             and I said,            

1962
01:40:36,740 --> 01:40:38,950
       "Those are false teeth       
     down there, aren't there?"     

1963
01:40:38,992 --> 01:40:40,619
     And somebody said, "Yeah."     

1964
01:40:44,706 --> 01:40:46,750
             [Crawford]             
       The attitude of the people    

1965
01:40:46,792 --> 01:40:49,586
   who should have been concerned   

1966
01:40:49,628 --> 01:40:51,463
       about what had happened      

1967
01:40:51,505 --> 01:40:56,259
      was simply that they were     
   pleased with what had happened, 

1968
01:40:56,301 --> 01:40:59,971
           and had no qualms         
           or second thoughts        

1969
01:41:00,013 --> 01:41:01,640
     or anything but satisfaction.   

1970
01:41:03,308 --> 01:41:05,936
      Walker wants to go back.      

1971
01:41:05,977 --> 01:41:08,772
        [cheers and applause]       

1972
01:41:08,814 --> 01:41:11,733
        [indistinct shouting]       

1973
01:41:11,775 --> 01:41:13,985
            -White power!           
            -White power!           

1974
01:41:14,027 --> 01:41:16,780
             -[all] Hey!            
            -White power!           

1975
01:41:16,822 --> 01:41:19,658
         solemn music playing      

1976
01:41:19,699 --> 01:41:21,952
                                  

1977
01:41:21,993 --> 01:41:24,329
              [Brosig]              
           They had control,         

1978
01:41:24,371 --> 01:41:26,164
       and once they had control,    

1979
01:41:26,206 --> 01:41:29,668
     you would think that things    
         would have stopped.        

1980
01:41:29,709 --> 01:41:31,169
              They didn't.           

1981
01:41:34,548 --> 01:41:36,007
             [Callaghan]            
           It was clear that,        

1982
01:41:36,049 --> 01:41:38,009
             at that point,          
       it was all about revenge.     

1983
01:41:38,051 --> 01:41:40,053
            It was all about         
             reestablishing          

1984
01:41:40,095 --> 01:41:41,638
           who was in charge         

1985
01:41:41,680 --> 01:41:43,640
             in the most            
       violent ways possible.       

1986
01:41:52,566 --> 01:41:54,985
      [Harrison]   Everybody had      
         to crawl through shit.      

1987
01:41:55,026 --> 01:41:56,695
              Human waste.           

1988
01:42:00,574 --> 01:42:02,868
          But what do you do?        

1989
01:42:02,909 --> 01:42:05,996
   Do you live to tell your story, 
        like I'm doing today,       

1990
01:42:06,037 --> 01:42:08,540
       or do you fucking die?       

1991
01:42:08,582 --> 01:42:10,208
          I made a choice.          
          I wanted to live.         

1992
01:42:14,713 --> 01:42:18,925
       "Crawl, nigger, crawl.       
         Crawl. Like a dog."        

1993
01:42:23,346 --> 01:42:24,890
             [Sheppard]             
        "If you look up, nigger,     

1994
01:42:24,931 --> 01:42:27,058
             I'll blow your          
       motherfucking brains out."    

1995
01:42:28,685 --> 01:42:32,063
       What the fuck they care      
     about calling you a nigger?    

1996
01:42:32,105 --> 01:42:35,400
    That was your name that day.    

1997
01:42:35,442 --> 01:42:38,236
     They had us marching around    
         the yard with our--        

1998
01:42:38,278 --> 01:42:41,865
     with our hands interlocked     
   like this, on top of our heads. 

1999
01:42:41,907 --> 01:42:43,617
          Abject surrender.         

2000
01:42:43,658 --> 01:42:48,580
                                  

2001
01:42:56,504 --> 01:42:59,174
               [Scott]              
     When I saw these naked bodies   

2002
01:42:59,216 --> 01:43:02,469
               lined up,             
        snaked around the area,      

2003
01:43:02,510 --> 01:43:07,182
      it reminded me of portrayals   
          of African Americans       

2004
01:43:07,224 --> 01:43:09,726
     being herded onto slave ships. 

2005
01:43:09,768 --> 01:43:11,394
        It was just horrendous.      

2006
01:43:11,436 --> 01:43:13,438
         It was just horrible,       
               horrible.             

2007
01:43:23,823 --> 01:43:25,283
             [Harrison]             
            And we're naked          

2008
01:43:25,325 --> 01:43:27,452
             in the middle           
          of the fucking yard,       

2009
01:43:27,494 --> 01:43:30,455
          guards going around        
         with, like, baby bats.      

2010
01:43:30,497 --> 01:43:32,457
        They was shoving them up     
              guys' asses.           

2011
01:43:32,499 --> 01:43:33,875
            I'm laying here,         

2012
01:43:33,917 --> 01:43:35,961
             and I'm hoping          
        they don't come my way.      

2013
01:43:49,432 --> 01:43:52,560
       [Victory]   Frank Smith,       
     Big Black, was put on a table   

2014
01:43:52,602 --> 01:43:54,771
            with a football          
           under his throat.         

2015
01:43:59,067 --> 01:44:00,777
             [Crawford]             
       People stood up above him     

2016
01:44:00,819 --> 01:44:03,280
            on the catwalk,          
     aiming their guns down at him, 

2017
01:44:03,321 --> 01:44:06,992
            throwing cigars          
      and cigarette butts on him,    

2018
01:44:07,033 --> 01:44:08,410
             and they said,          

2019
01:44:08,451 --> 01:44:10,161
        "If that football falls,     
                nigger,              

2020
01:44:10,203 --> 01:44:11,788
        we're gonna shoot you."      

2021
01:44:15,083 --> 01:44:17,460
       [Callaghan]   He was told      
          to get to his feet.        

2022
01:44:17,502 --> 01:44:20,338
         He tried. He stumbled.      
                He fell.             

2023
01:44:20,380 --> 01:44:22,507
         He was hit with clubs       

2024
01:44:22,549 --> 01:44:26,094
     on his back, between his legs. 

2025
01:44:26,136 --> 01:44:29,681
         And he was crying out,      
               you know,             

2026
01:44:29,723 --> 01:44:32,017
            "Don't do this.          
            Don't do this."          

2027
01:44:32,058 --> 01:44:34,185
      And then you could hear him    
               screaming             

2028
01:44:34,227 --> 01:44:37,230
             as he went up           
          through the prison.        

2029
01:44:42,402 --> 01:44:45,655
    [Harrison]   It felt good that    
       I had survived this shit.     

2030
01:44:45,697 --> 01:44:48,700
       And now, I gotta look out,    

2031
01:44:48,742 --> 01:44:51,119
         because some more shit      
               is coming.            

2032
01:44:51,161 --> 01:44:56,333
                                  

2033
01:44:57,334 --> 01:44:59,836
      The inmates were entering     
           these corridors          

2034
01:44:59,878 --> 01:45:04,549
          off of the yard,          
        and the guards were,        

2035
01:45:04,591 --> 01:45:07,886
    like, five or six feet apart,   
          with their clubs.         

2036
01:45:07,927 --> 01:45:11,139
        And they would hit them      
           against the walls.        

2037
01:45:11,181 --> 01:45:14,976
           And there was just        
       this dull drum-like sound.    

2038
01:45:15,018 --> 01:45:16,728
           And then they were        
          hitting the inmates        

2039
01:45:16,770 --> 01:45:18,855
        as they ran a gauntlet.      

2040
01:45:23,151 --> 01:45:25,779
      We could hear the screams     
             coming out,            

2041
01:45:25,820 --> 01:45:29,324
        so that we knew that        
      they were being tortured,     

2042
01:45:29,366 --> 01:45:33,828
     and that we were somehow part   
       of this unthinkable scene,    

2043
01:45:33,870 --> 01:45:35,747
             that there was          
           no escaping from,         

2044
01:45:35,789 --> 01:45:37,582
       but was completely wrong.     

2045
01:45:41,294 --> 01:45:43,213
              [Brosig]              
     They had guards on both sides, 

2046
01:45:43,254 --> 01:45:45,757
     and they would be hitting you   
      as you were running through,   

2047
01:45:45,799 --> 01:45:48,343
       beating you with hoses       
             and batons             

2048
01:45:48,385 --> 01:45:50,136
        and whatever they had       
           in their hands.          

2049
01:45:50,178 --> 01:45:52,055
            I'm ducking,            
       trying to get through,       

2050
01:45:52,097 --> 01:45:53,640
         protecting my head.        

2051
01:45:53,681 --> 01:45:55,475
        My shoulders got hit,       
           all on my arms,          

2052
01:45:55,517 --> 01:45:58,061
        my elbows, my knees.        
          They still hurt.          

2053
01:45:58,103 --> 01:46:01,231
    Beating you after making you    
      run through the gauntlet,     

2054
01:46:01,272 --> 01:46:03,191
    where they took all the glass   
       out the fucking windows      

2055
01:46:03,233 --> 01:46:04,859
             and put it             
     in the middle of the floor,    

2056
01:46:04,901 --> 01:46:06,486
   so you had to run through glass 
           with bare feet.          

2057
01:46:06,528 --> 01:46:08,988
    Nobody came out of that yard    

2058
01:46:09,030 --> 01:46:11,783
        with--with--picking--       

2059
01:46:11,825 --> 01:46:14,452
    without having to pick glass    
     out of your feet for weeks.    

2060
01:46:16,121 --> 01:46:19,624
           Couldn't walk.           
      Nobody can walk anymore.      

2061
01:46:19,666 --> 01:46:22,168
         But we had to run,         
     because if you didn't run,     

2062
01:46:22,210 --> 01:46:24,462
     they just kept beating you     
          with these clubs.         

2063
01:46:34,097 --> 01:46:35,807
             [reporter]             
     The families of the hostages,   

2064
01:46:35,849 --> 01:46:39,644
          a lot of them waited       
     just outside the prison wall.   

2065
01:46:39,686 --> 01:46:43,148
     -They're gonna get him out.    
             -[sobbing]             

2066
01:46:43,189 --> 01:46:45,984
     [reporter]   Then news began     
        to filter out of Attica.     

2067
01:46:46,025 --> 01:46:49,237
      Names of freed hostages were   
     called out to the loved ones.   

2068
01:46:49,279 --> 01:46:50,655
          [police officer]          
   Bob Curtis! Lieutenant Curtis.   

2069
01:46:50,697 --> 01:46:52,115
          [police officer]          
               Curtis!              

2070
01:46:52,157 --> 01:46:55,410
        Al Robbin. Al Robbin.       

2071
01:46:57,996 --> 01:47:00,081
     [reporter]   Some didn't see     
          their men come out.        

2072
01:47:00,123 --> 01:47:01,916
     All they learned was the name   
            of the hospital          

2073
01:47:01,958 --> 01:47:03,918
          where the survivors        
          were being treated.        

2074
01:47:03,960 --> 01:47:07,046
       There was no time to wait.    
     They ran off to see their men. 

2075
01:47:07,088 --> 01:47:10,592
                                  

2076
01:47:10,633 --> 01:47:13,178
       Some people couldn't seem     
          to run fast enough.        

2077
01:47:17,432 --> 01:47:18,391
           [Jaime Valone]           
           My mom came home,         

2078
01:47:18,433 --> 01:47:19,934
      and she was with her sister,   

2079
01:47:19,976 --> 01:47:22,228
         and my mom was crying,      
            obviously upset.         

2080
01:47:25,440 --> 01:47:27,484
           I was outside,           
     sitting on the front porch,    

2081
01:47:27,525 --> 01:47:30,778
   you know, praying and worrying. 
         And "where's Dad?"         

2082
01:47:30,820 --> 01:47:32,739
           I expected him           
        to show up, you know.       

2083
01:47:32,780 --> 01:47:35,325
          And, um, I kept,          

2084
01:47:35,366 --> 01:47:38,036
       "Mom, Mom, where's Dad?      

2085
01:47:38,077 --> 01:47:40,288
     What's--why are you crying?    
          What's going on?"         

2086
01:47:40,330 --> 01:47:44,209
      When my mother came back      
    in the house, and, you know,    

2087
01:47:44,250 --> 01:47:46,753
             she said--             
   now she had to fight with me--   

2088
01:47:46,794 --> 01:47:49,047
      argue, I mean, you know,      

2089
01:47:49,088 --> 01:47:50,590
        because I didn't want       
           to believe it.           

2090
01:47:50,632 --> 01:47:52,800
        And she finally said,       

2091
01:47:52,842 --> 01:47:57,305
       "I saw him. I saw him!"      

2092
01:48:01,226 --> 01:48:02,644
           [Jaime Valone]           
      Finally, she blurted it out.   

2093
01:48:02,685 --> 01:48:05,438
         "Your father's dead."       

2094
01:48:05,480 --> 01:48:07,148
               So I ran.             

2095
01:48:10,652 --> 01:48:13,655
         I ran for a while,         
          and I came back,          

2096
01:48:13,696 --> 01:48:15,198
          and I was sitting         
         on the front porch,        

2097
01:48:15,240 --> 01:48:18,284
         trying to be strong        
            and not cry,            

2098
01:48:18,326 --> 01:48:21,204
     and I could hear everybody     
        in the house crying.        

2099
01:48:21,246 --> 01:48:24,082
          And I was trying          
       to be so tough, and...       

2100
01:48:25,917 --> 01:48:27,043
               [sighs]              

2101
01:48:31,965 --> 01:48:34,759
             I'm sorry.             
            God damn it.            

2102
01:48:39,097 --> 01:48:41,933
         solemn music playing      

2103
01:48:41,975 --> 01:48:46,896
                                  

2104
01:48:49,983 --> 01:48:51,359
       The National Guardsmen       
              were told             

2105
01:48:51,401 --> 01:48:53,653
    to get back in their trucks,    

2106
01:48:53,695 --> 01:48:56,990
      and we did that and were      
   taken out to the parking area.   

2107
01:48:57,031 --> 01:48:59,742
    And a colonel then addressed    
           the battalion,           

2108
01:48:59,784 --> 01:49:02,287
     maybe several hundred men.     

2109
01:49:02,328 --> 01:49:04,372
      And he said, essentially,     

2110
01:49:04,414 --> 01:49:09,168
      "You saw things that were     
     excessive and wrong today,     

2111
01:49:09,210 --> 01:49:12,964
        and I have to ask you       
   not to speak of this to anyone, 

2112
01:49:13,006 --> 01:49:15,300
          because the world         
         will not understand        

2113
01:49:15,341 --> 01:49:17,135
     what happened here today."     

2114
01:49:19,554 --> 01:49:21,139
             [reporter]             
       The most violent rebellion    

2115
01:49:21,180 --> 01:49:22,599
           in modern American        
             penal history           

2116
01:49:22,640 --> 01:49:24,434
          came to an end today       

2117
01:49:24,475 --> 01:49:26,686
     at the maximum-security prison 
          in Attica, New York.       

2118
01:49:26,728 --> 01:49:27,937
         In the final hours         
           of the revolt,           

2119
01:49:27,979 --> 01:49:29,814
      led primarily by Blacks,      

2120
01:49:29,856 --> 01:49:32,692
      the inmates murdered nine     
      of their white hostages.      

2121
01:49:32,734 --> 01:49:34,777
       28 convicts were killed      
          by state troopers         

2122
01:49:34,819 --> 01:49:36,070
       and sheriff's deputies,      

2123
01:49:36,112 --> 01:49:38,281
        who regained control        
           of the prison.           

2124
01:49:38,323 --> 01:49:40,199
     The storming of the prison     
        had the full approval       

2125
01:49:40,241 --> 01:49:41,909
            of New York's           
        Governor Rockefeller,       

2126
01:49:41,951 --> 01:49:44,037
      who earlier had rejected      
          a prisoner demand         

2127
01:49:44,078 --> 01:49:45,872
       for complete clemency.       

2128
01:49:45,913 --> 01:49:48,875
     The White House said that,     
    after the prison was retaken,   

2129
01:49:48,916 --> 01:49:50,877
            President Nixon          
        telephoned the governor      

2130
01:49:50,918 --> 01:49:53,755
        to express his approval      
        of Rockefeller's action.     

2131
01:50:46,557 --> 01:50:48,851
        [reporter]   Yesterday,       
        officials at the prison      

2132
01:50:48,893 --> 01:50:52,230
       said eight of the hostages    
       had had their throats cut.    

2133
01:50:52,271 --> 01:50:54,774
      But today, the Monroe County   
           medical examiner,         

2134
01:50:54,816 --> 01:50:56,734
      having looked at the bodies,   

2135
01:50:56,776 --> 01:50:59,153
        said no throats were cut     
                at all.              

2136
01:50:59,195 --> 01:51:01,197
          The Medical Examiner       
           says the hostages         

2137
01:51:01,239 --> 01:51:04,534
       were apparently killed       
     by large-caliber ammunition    

2138
01:51:04,575 --> 01:51:07,370
         and shotgun blasts,        
          from a distance,          

2139
01:51:07,412 --> 01:51:09,580
      which immediately raised      
           the possibility          

2140
01:51:09,622 --> 01:51:12,750
   that some of the hostages may,   
    in fact, have been shot down    

2141
01:51:12,792 --> 01:51:16,045
     by the lawmen who broke in     
           to rescue them.          

2142
01:51:16,087 --> 01:51:19,424
    [Brosig]   Some of the hostages   
           were actually shot        

2143
01:51:19,465 --> 01:51:21,759
           running towards          
         the state troopers,        

2144
01:51:21,801 --> 01:51:24,595
              thinking,             
       "I'm saved. I'm saved."      

2145
01:51:25,304 --> 01:51:28,808
     And the hostages were dressed   
     the same way the inmates were. 

2146
01:51:30,810 --> 01:51:33,187
           Anything that had         
           inmate garb on it,        

2147
01:51:33,229 --> 01:51:35,523
           they just started         
            shooting at you.         

2148
01:51:38,151 --> 01:51:40,737
       What Rockefeller had done     

2149
01:51:40,778 --> 01:51:45,700
       was treat the hostages       

2150
01:51:45,742 --> 01:51:50,788
          as no more real,          
          live human beings         

2151
01:51:50,830 --> 01:51:54,917
    who deserved to be respected    
         than the prisoners.        

2152
01:51:54,959 --> 01:51:59,422
       And so you kill them all,     
         and you restore order,      

2153
01:51:59,464 --> 01:52:04,385
            and you make me          
          into a major figure        

2154
01:52:04,427 --> 01:52:07,180
     who believes in law and order   

2155
01:52:07,221 --> 01:52:10,224
               at a time             
           when that concept         

2156
01:52:10,266 --> 01:52:14,312
              is beginning           
          to really take hold.       

2157
01:52:14,353 --> 01:52:19,233
                                  

2158
01:52:37,210 --> 01:52:40,671
    [Jones]   It should have ended    
      in a negotiated settlement.    

2159
01:52:40,713 --> 01:52:42,173
      No, they weren't interested    
                in that.             

2160
01:52:42,215 --> 01:52:44,300
         They were interesting       
               in showing            

2161
01:52:44,342 --> 01:52:46,052
        the naked fist of power.     

2162
01:52:46,093 --> 01:52:49,263
             Law and order.          

2163
01:52:49,305 --> 01:52:50,515
          The national mindset       
             of the nation           

2164
01:52:50,556 --> 01:52:53,100
           was law and order.        

2165
01:52:53,142 --> 01:52:57,104
          And law and order         
           does not permit          

2166
01:52:57,146 --> 01:53:00,483
            any challenge           

2167
01:53:00,525 --> 01:53:03,027
    to its authority whatsoever.    

2168
01:53:03,069 --> 01:53:05,154
   God willing, a few more months, 
             in January,            

2169
01:53:05,196 --> 01:53:07,698
        I'll be 90 years old.       

2170
01:53:07,740 --> 01:53:10,701
   I will never, ever, ever, ever, 

2171
01:53:10,743 --> 01:53:15,623
   ever, ever, ever forget Attica. 

2172
01:53:15,665 --> 01:53:19,460
                Ever.               

2173
01:53:19,502 --> 01:53:24,006
   It didn't have to be that way.   

2174
01:53:24,048 --> 01:53:28,928
                                  

2175
01:53:57,248 --> 01:54:00,042
         soulful doo-wop music      
               playing              

2176
01:54:00,084 --> 01:54:05,047
                                  

2177
01:54:06,465 --> 01:54:09,385
           All eight cases          

2178
01:54:09,427 --> 01:54:13,472
       died of gunshot wounds.      

2179
01:54:13,514 --> 01:54:16,392
        There was no evidence       
         of slashed throats.        

2180
01:54:16,434 --> 01:54:21,314
                                  

2181
01:54:38,581 --> 01:54:40,541
   I've never received an apology. 

2182
01:54:41,876 --> 01:54:43,544
   I've never received an apology, 

2183
01:54:43,586 --> 01:54:44,921
             and for me,            
      that's a pretty big deal.     

2184
01:54:44,962 --> 01:54:46,964
                                  

2185
01:54:47,006 --> 01:54:50,801
               So come             

2186
01:54:50,843 --> 01:54:53,596
                To me              

2187
01:54:53,638 --> 01:54:57,224
         What does money do         
    when you don't have your dad,   

2188
01:54:57,266 --> 01:54:59,644
            or your brother,         
             or your uncle?          

2189
01:55:02,813 --> 01:55:05,900
             How does that           
           replace anything?         

2190
01:55:05,942 --> 01:55:09,862
           And I think it was        
       the state's way of saying,    

2191
01:55:09,904 --> 01:55:11,364
        "We're gonna give you       
             this money,            

2192
01:55:11,405 --> 01:55:13,199
    and we want you to go away."    

2193
01:55:13,240 --> 01:55:18,120
           Beyond the blue         

2194
01:55:18,162 --> 01:55:21,874
               Then my             

2195
01:55:21,916 --> 01:55:25,962
              True love            

2196
01:55:26,003 --> 01:55:30,967
      Will come shining through    

2197
01:55:31,008 --> 01:55:32,635
             [reporter]             
          For nearly 30 years,       

2198
01:55:32,677 --> 01:55:35,596
         former Attica inmates       
        have waited for justice.     

2199
01:55:35,638 --> 01:55:37,348
         Today, it finally came      

2200
01:55:37,390 --> 01:55:40,601
              in the form            
      of a $12 million settlement.   

2201
01:55:40,643 --> 01:55:43,396
              - And be             
              - And be             

2202
01:55:43,437 --> 01:55:46,023
               My love             

2203
01:55:46,065 --> 01:55:48,943
              [Nieves]              
        There was never justice.     

2204
01:55:48,985 --> 01:55:50,945
         All we got was money.       

2205
01:55:50,987 --> 01:55:53,489
        And money wasn't enough.     

2206
01:55:53,531 --> 01:55:55,074
       Then you can't justify       
          all the killings          

2207
01:55:55,116 --> 01:55:56,701
      that happened in Attica.      

2208
01:55:56,742 --> 01:55:58,494
        You can't justify it.       

2209
01:55:58,536 --> 01:56:01,122
     And so there's no justice.     
      There was never justice.      

2210
01:56:01,163 --> 01:56:04,208
               The sun             

2211
01:56:04,250 --> 01:56:08,212
              Will shine           

2212
01:56:08,254 --> 01:56:12,049
                Beyond             

2213
01:56:12,091 --> 01:56:15,803
               The blue            

2214
01:56:15,845 --> 01:56:19,515
               Then my             

2215
01:56:19,557 --> 01:56:23,352
              True love            

2216
01:56:23,394 --> 01:56:28,232
      Will come shining through    

2217
01:56:30,609 --> 01:56:35,114
              - So come            
           - So come to me         

2218
01:56:35,156 --> 01:56:37,575
            On bended knee         

2219
01:56:37,616 --> 01:56:41,120
              - And be             
              - And be             

2220
01:56:41,162 --> 01:56:44,915
               My love             

2221
01:56:44,957 --> 01:56:49,336
            - For as long          
      - For just as long, baby     

2222
01:56:49,378 --> 01:56:52,757
           As you are mine         

2223
01:56:52,798 --> 01:56:55,176
            I know the sun         

2224
01:56:55,217 --> 01:56:58,512
              Will shine           

2225
01:56:58,554 --> 01:57:03,434