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ACTIVIST: What do we want?
ALL: Free Britney!
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ACTIVIST: When do we want it?
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ALL: Now!
ACTIVIST: What do we want?
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ALL: Free Britney!
ACTIVIST: When do we want it?
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ALL: Now!
ACTIVIST: What do we want?
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‐ This is "Free Britney 102,"
where we explore issues
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related to the Free Britney
movement.
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The Free Britney movement
is advocating
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for the end of Britney Spears'
conservatorship.
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‐ I need everyone who is
scrolling right now
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to stop and watch this video.
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‐ Britney Spears
needs our help.
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Since 2008, she has been
under something called
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a legal conservatorship
by her father.
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ACTIVIST: Now,
a conservatorship literally
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gives someone else
the control of your life.
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They decide what you can
and can't do,
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and it's usually used
for elderly people
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who don't have
the necessary brain function.
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‐ But a functioning woman
that's been working nonstop,
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it just‐‐
it doesn't make any sense.
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‐ Dear Britney,
my name is Elizabeth Denon,
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and I'm 29 years old.
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‐ My name is James Miller,
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and I'm from Baton Rouge,
Louisiana.
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‐ My name is Jasmine.
I'm 28,
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and I am a Scorpio
from New Jersey.
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‐ Dear Britney.
‐ Dear Britney.
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‐ Dear Britney.
‐ I'm so nervous.
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I'm, like, sweating.
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‐ Your whole situation
is consuming me now.
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I can't believe that
it's just been this long
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and I didn't know.
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BRITNEY: When I first started,
I didn't know
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what I was doing,
but every day you learn more,
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and you gain
more wisdom from that.
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‐ Why is she still in this?
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Why is her dad making
all of her decisions?
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BRITNEY: I am
where I am today‐‐
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it's because
I do have control.
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You know, you have to.
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Otherwise you get
sucked in by people.
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‐ I have always viewed the
situation as something that
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I don't think would have ever
happened to a man in America.
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BRITNEY: Trust me,
there are days that I have‐‐
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I struggle with myself.
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‐ I am familiar with
the lawyers on the case.
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They care deeply for Britney.
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‐ I trust the system.
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I believe the law is aimed
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at actually protecting
the conservatee.
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BRITNEY: There are things
out there that have been said
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about me that aren't
completely true.
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‐ We stand up for you,
Britney Spears,
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and we won't stop
until you reach freedom.
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BRITNEY: There's a lot that
people don't know about me
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that I want them to know.
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ACTIVIST: Growing up,
I struggled with
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anxiety and depression,
and Britney Spears is the one
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who made it okay to struggle
with those things.
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ACTIVIST: She gave me
permission to be myself
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growing up as a gay boy
in suburban Virginia,
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and Britney gave me
the power to be who I am.
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ACTIVIST: She even shaved
her hair off.
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Hey, I shaved my hair off too
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because I didn't want nobody
touching me.
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And they still didn't get it.
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LIZ: Britney is in the midst
of a legal battle right now.
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She's been
in a conservatorship
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for the past 12 years.
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‐ Free Britney!
‐ Justice for Britney.
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‐ There's been a lot
of speculation as to whether
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this is in Britney's
best interests,
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and is this good for her?
Is this what she wants?
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‐ All right, so today
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we have a conservatorship
hearing for Britney Spears.
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Apparently, conservator
of the estate is Jamie Spears.
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ALL: Boo!
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Jamie out!
Jamie out!
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LIZ: Her dad has been in
charge of her money
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for the last 12 years,
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and a few months ago
Britney's lawyer said
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Britney wants someone else
to be in charge of her money
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and wants Jamie, her father,
to step down.
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Britney's father so far
has refused to step down.
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‐ But this time
it just feels different.
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I'm so excited.
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‐ I feel‐‐
I feel really hopeful.
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‐ Hey, guys, it's Megan.
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The judge has not made
any decisions yet,
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but we did wanna
give you a quick update.
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Britney has told Ingham
on multiple occasions
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that she's scared of her father
and that she refuses to work
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until he is no longer
in control of her career.
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LIZ: To understand
where Britney is now,
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we should understand
how she got here.
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‐ Okay.
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These are letters to me
from the fans.
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So if I got this many,
you can imagine‐‐
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oh, the ones that Britney got
would fill up the entire room,
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would fill up the entire room.
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[delicate music]
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Yeah.
Sorry.
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[laughs]
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That was pretty cool.
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You know, I don't know that I
ever really had any definition
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on what I was supposed
to do with Britney.
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For a long time
they called me her chaperone,
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and then at one point
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they wanted
to call me her partner,
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and we didn't think
that sounded right.
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I definitely was
not her mother,
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and I wasn't her big sister,
so we settled on assistant.
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♪ ♪
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I wanna give you a tour
of my tiny, little home.
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Britney's mother
helped decorate
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because she's so proud
of her sweet baby.
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50,000 in Austria.
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This is 5 million
at this point.
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These are more.
[laughs]
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This is the first one
I got, y'all.
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This is when
"...Baby One More Time"
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was a multi‐platinum album.
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You have to sell a million
copies in the United States
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for an album to be platinum.
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It can go platinum
many, many, many times.
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This is 11 million copies.
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[laughs]
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To be honest, I didn't then,
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nor do I now understand
what a conservatorship is,
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especially for somebody
Britney's age
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and somebody capable of so much
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that I know firsthand
she's capable of.
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She was a small‐town girl
from Kentwood, Louisiana.
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LIZ: Can you describe
Kentwood, Louisiana?
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FELICIA: Just a tiny,
sleepy little town,
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very hospitable and humble,
unpretentious.
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We are who we are.
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We're not wealthy,
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but we're wealthy
in many other ways.
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We are definitely in‐‐right in
the middle of the Bible Belt.
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Britney sang in the choir.
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She grew up going to church
every Sunday.
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So I've known her
since she was five.
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You know, by then
we all knew her talent
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was just extraordinary.
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I will say the one reason that
I agreed to do the interview
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is so we could remind people
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of why they fell in love
with her in the first place.
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‐ From Kentwood, Louisiana,
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here is ten‐year‐old
Britney Spears.
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[cheers and applause]
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[The Judds' "Love Can
Build a Bridge" playing]
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‐ ♪ Love can build a bridge ♪
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♪ Between your heart ♪
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‐ If you think about her
coming from such a small town,
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you know, she clawed her way
into the industry
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right from the beginning.
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‐ ♪ Oh, anything ♪
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♪ Keep believing in the power ♪
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‐ I noticed last week you have
the most adorable, pretty eyes.
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Do you have a boyfriend?
‐ No, sir.
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‐ Why not?
‐ They're mean.
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[laughter]
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‐ Boyfriends?
You mean all boys are mean?
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I'm not mean.
How about me?
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‐ Well, it depends.
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HAYLEY: Of all the things
that she could be asked about,
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because what else could
we possibly talk to a woman
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or a girl about?
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There's so much more to her
that everybody's missing.
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[light dramatic music]
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NANCY: Her parents reached out
to me by letter,
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and the letter said
something like,
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"We have no idea
what to do with this child.
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Help us.
What do we do?"
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I replied and said,
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"Well, I would love
to meet her in person."
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They took the train
from Louisiana to New York
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'cause I don't think
they could afford to fly.
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Her parents were
working people.
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Her mom was just so sweet,
so proud of her daughter,
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and her dad too was very
proud of‐‐proud of Britney,
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and he was more concerned with
the financial aspect of it.
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How was he gonna be able
to make this happen?
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Could he make it happen?
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But I know he wanted
to make it happen for her.
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And we came up with a plan.
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Lynne and Britney would come to
New York for a period of time.
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Britney could study voice
in New York,
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and study dance in New York,
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and do some acting
and audition.
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She was a funny, sweet,
wonderful little girl.
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I‐I loved her.
I love her still.
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‐ ♪ And I ain't had no loving
since God knows when ♪
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NANCY: Jamie visited
from time to time
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and was anxious to see
this time be worthwhile
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so that he could justify
the money
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that it was costing
to do this.
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‐ There was a time where
you were struggling to really
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make ends meet,
and you saved all the money
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you could to get
singing lessons for Britney.
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How did you manage
to do all of that?
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‐ It was really hard.
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A lot of times we would rob
from Peter to pay Paul.
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You know,
it was really hard.
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NANCY: All this led to
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"The Mickey Mouse Club"
audition,
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and she nailed it.
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‐ We've got a girl that enters
a strange dimension
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of sight and sound
as she crosses over
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into the Teenage Zone.
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♪ I know a place,
and nobody ♪
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‐ Britney just loved it,
and when it ended,
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it was devastating.
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BRITNEY: After
"The Mickey Mouse Club,"
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I went home for,
like, two years,
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and I was completely normal.
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I went to high school,
and I did‐‐I played basketball.
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I was just, you know, really
involved with my school.
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NANCY: And we started
looking for auditions,
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but it‐‐financially,
it would have been
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very difficult for them
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to come back and forth
to New York.
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It was a tough time.
It was a tough time,
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and it was really,
"What are we going to do now?"
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And I know that the idea of
singing was interesting to her.
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I remember her
making a demo tape.
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FELICIA: Before I worked
with Britney,
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I was a nanny in New York.
Lynne called.
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She said, "Well, Britney and I
are gonna be in the city,
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and we'd love for you
to have dinner with us,"
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and I said,
"Oh, that sounds great."
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And Lynne said, "Felicia,
I had an ulterior motive
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for inviting you to dinner,"
and I said, "What?"
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She said, "Britney got
a record deal today,
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"and I can't travel with her
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"'cause Jamie Lynn's
in the first grade,
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but‐‐can you travel with her?"
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And I said,
"Oh, my gosh, Lynne,
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"well, I quit my job yesterday.
I guess I can,
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but I'll do it
for three months,"
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and that was, mm,
about 23 years ago.
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[light music]
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KIM: She had plans
to come to New York
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to meet people at the label.
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She came into my office
with her chaperone.
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Her parents were in Louisiana.
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She had a younger sibling
that was still in school
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and had to be taken care of,
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so Felicia was really
sitting in for the parents.
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I remember Britney came in,
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and I was really impressed
with the fact
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that she was so serious
and so focused,
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and I thought,
"This is the style.
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"This is a girl
that's coming from strength,
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"your friend that you
kind of idolize a little bit,
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"but that at the end of the day
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has the same kind of hopes
and dreams that you do."
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‐ Mama, come here.
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Aww, y'all look so pretty.
This is my mom right here.
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And this is my brother's
girlfriend.
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This is my little sister.
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LIZ: Jamie, Britney's father,
wasn't around very much
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when Britney was growing up.
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We know that Jamie
was struggling with alcohol,
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and he later goes to rehab.
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He drifts in between
construction, being a cook,
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tries to open a gym business
that didn't work out,
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and later ends up
filing for bankruptcy.
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He doesn't seem to be
a big presence in her life.
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KIM: Her mother would do
whatever it took,
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personally
and for the family's sake,
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for Britney to be a star.
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Lynne supported Britney.
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I wanna say Lynne because
I never talked to her father.
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The only thing
Jamie ever said to me was,
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"My daughter's
gonna be so rich,
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she's gonna buy me a boat."
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That's all I'm gonna say
about Jamie.
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‐ Hi, I'm Britney Spears,
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and I'm so happy
to be here today
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in Langhorne,
so thanks for coming out.
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The name of this song is
"Thinkin' About You."
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KIM: There's a lot of work
that goes into the preparation
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for an album release.
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Kids go to school.
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Kids go to the mall,
so how do we reach those kids?
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‐ Hi, what's your name?
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And this next song
is my first single,
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and it's called
"...Baby One More Time."
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FELICIA: We'd be in
the middle of the mall,
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and people would slowly stop
and gather and watch,
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and then when it was over,
we would go shopping.
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[Britney Spears' "...Baby
One More Time" playing]
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‐ ♪ Oh, baby, baby ♪
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♪ ♪
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‐ But then as she became
a little more popular...
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‐ "...Baby One More Time."
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[crowd screaming]
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‐ People really started
coming to the malls
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to seek out where we were.
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‐ ♪ That something
wasn't right here ♪
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♪ Show me how you
want it to be ♪
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WESLEY: The video shows up.
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Quite famously,
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she is in
a schoolgirl's uniform.
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She owns the hallways
at this school,
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and the song is‐‐
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is obviously sexual in nature.
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‐ Teen singing sensation
Britney Spears.
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‐ ♪ 'Cause I need to know now,
oh, because ♪
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WESLEY: If you're
12 or 13 years old,
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you're seeing a person
who reminds you
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in some ways of you.
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It isn't the sex part
that seems cool.
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It's the control
and command over herself
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and her space that seems cool.
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‐ She's so cool.
I love her.
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I love the way she moves
and she grooves.
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KIM: She just captured
that dichotomy so well
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of what a teenage girl is.
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Teenage girls wanna be adult
women, but they also are kids.
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BOTH: We love Britney!
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REPORTER:
Well, congratulations.
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Your single is exploding.
‐ BRITNEY: Thank you.
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KIM: There's no bigger star in
pop music than Britney Spears.
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BRITNEY: It's so exciting.
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It's really exciting.
I'm very flattered.
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INTERVIEWER: Are you even
surprised at how fast
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this has happened to you?
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‐ Oh, my goodness, yeah.
335
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It's, like, all of a sudden,
you know?
336
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O‐‐it seems like overnight,
just boom,
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you're just‐‐you're famous.
It's weird.
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FAN: Britney! Britney!
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KIM: You have to remember
one really important thing.
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This is boy band time.
This is not about girls.
341
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Girls don't sell.
342
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So it really was a phenomenon.
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FELICIA: We still were
those people
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from Mississippi, Louisiana.
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We were fresh,
and everything was new.
346
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She was so humbled
by everything.
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One of the first things
that she did
348
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when she just was
getting famous was she‐‐
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we were home for Christmas,
350
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and she wanted to go get
$10,000 in $100 bills,
351
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and she just drove
through Kentwood
352
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and gave out $100 bills,
353
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And it wasn't,
"Hi, I'm Britney Spears."
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It was, "Merry Christmas."
355
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‐ I'm joined now by the one
and only Britney Spears.
356
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Dave Holmes is outside with
just, uh‐‐just a boatload
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of some of your biggest fans,
I can imagine.
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‐ Oh, my God.
Everyone say hi to Britney.
359
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ALL: Hi, Britney!
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‐ Britney played MTV, 1999,
perfectly.
361
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She was in the studio
for "TRL" a lot.
362
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She produced excellent videos.
363
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‐ These are my best friends,
and they travel with me.
364
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DAVE: She seemed very
approachable to the audience,
365
00:16:00,130 --> 00:16:03,303
so they could
really connect with her
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in a way that has
never really been severed.
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‐ ♪ Ooh, baby, baby,
oops, I did it again ♪
368
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INTERVIEWER: You sold over
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20 million copies
of your last album.
370
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ANNOUNCER:
Pepsi has a new voice...
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ANNOUNCER:
Britney has Got Milk,
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Clairol, and Polaroid.
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BRITNEY: I know all the ins
and outs of what I'm doing.
374
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I know about all the contracts
375
00:16:20,964 --> 00:16:22,426
and all the deals
I'm about to do.
376
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I'm not just some girl
who's listening to my manager.
377
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♪ Oh ♪
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ALL: ♪ I'm not that innocent ♪
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MICHAEL: I mean,
I know she's aiming
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for the little kids market
or whatever.
381
00:16:31,986 --> 00:16:34,616
She needs to back off and put
a pair of blue jeans on,
382
00:16:34,616 --> 00:16:36,454
no shoes, and just sing,
you know?
383
00:16:36,454 --> 00:16:38,416
INTERVIEWER: To many,
you are a contradiction.
384
00:16:38,416 --> 00:16:40,795
On the one hand,
you're a sweet,
385
00:16:40,795 --> 00:16:42,674
innocent, virginal type.
386
00:16:42,674 --> 00:16:47,517
On the other hand, you're
a sexy vamp in underwear.
387
00:16:47,517 --> 00:16:49,772
‐ I wouldn't say in underwear.
388
00:16:49,772 --> 00:16:51,484
WESLEY: I mean, the thing that
I find fascinating
389
00:16:51,484 --> 00:16:54,448
about Britney Spears' arrival
at this moment
390
00:16:54,448 --> 00:16:56,535
is that she comes
391
00:16:56,535 --> 00:16:58,831
in the midst of
the Clinton‐Lewinsky scandal.
392
00:16:58,831 --> 00:17:00,502
ANNOUNCER: President Clinton
had an affair with...
393
00:17:00,502 --> 00:17:02,004
ANNOUNCER:
A sexual relationship
394
00:17:02,004 --> 00:17:04,343
with a former White House
intern, Monica Lewinsky.
395
00:17:04,343 --> 00:17:07,849
WESLEY: And it's this really
charged moment in the country
396
00:17:07,849 --> 00:17:10,355
where we are
talking about sex in a way
397
00:17:10,355 --> 00:17:12,024
that we had never been
talking about sex,
398
00:17:12,024 --> 00:17:13,861
or hadn't been for a long time.
399
00:17:13,861 --> 00:17:15,824
‐ See, that brings up
the age‐old question for guys.
400
00:17:15,824 --> 00:17:17,619
Who do you want, the nice girl,
401
00:17:17,619 --> 00:17:19,623
the pretty girl
you can take home to Mom,
402
00:17:19,623 --> 00:17:21,292
or the cheap, slutty girl
you know puts out?
403
00:17:21,292 --> 00:17:23,423
Everybody goes for Monica!
404
00:17:23,423 --> 00:17:28,140
WESLEY: An exponent of that
interest in that relationship
405
00:17:28,140 --> 00:17:32,022
bled over into our interest
in Britney Spears in some way.
406
00:17:32,022 --> 00:17:33,860
HAYLEY: I think a lot
of people were, like,
407
00:17:33,860 --> 00:17:37,868
uncomfortable with,
you know, her sexuality.
408
00:17:37,868 --> 00:17:40,331
INTERVIEWER: A lot of talk
about your sexy Lolita look,
409
00:17:40,331 --> 00:17:42,752
especially after
the "Rolling Stones" story.
410
00:17:42,752 --> 00:17:44,339
BRITNEY: Well, I think
we're all girls,
411
00:17:44,339 --> 00:17:46,050
and, I mean,
it's a part of who we are.
412
00:17:46,050 --> 00:17:48,723
You'd be lying if you said
you didn't like to feel sexy.
413
00:17:48,723 --> 00:17:50,560
You know what I mean?
You're a girl.
414
00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:51,729
INTERVIEWER:
Everyone's talking about it.
415
00:17:51,729 --> 00:17:53,566
‐ What?
416
00:17:53,566 --> 00:17:57,699
‐ Well, your breasts.
‐ My breasts?
417
00:17:57,699 --> 00:18:00,538
INTERVIEWER: You seem to get
furious when a talk show host
418
00:18:00,538 --> 00:18:02,208
comes up with this subject.
419
00:18:02,208 --> 00:18:03,711
‐ I'll say this.
420
00:18:03,711 --> 00:18:07,051
You know, I worked with all
the boy bands, all of them,
421
00:18:07,051 --> 00:18:10,934
and not one of the boys
was ever under any scrutiny.
422
00:18:10,934 --> 00:18:14,232
‐ It certainly is a paradox,
isn't it, the way she works?
423
00:18:14,232 --> 00:18:15,485
HOST: And the way she dresses.
424
00:18:15,485 --> 00:18:17,238
‐ She doesn't seem
that innocent.
425
00:18:17,238 --> 00:18:19,200
HAYLEY: That's when
she just really started
426
00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,664
becoming more free
427
00:18:21,664 --> 00:18:24,545
and less concerned
with pleasing everybody,
428
00:18:24,545 --> 00:18:26,757
which is also, like,
a whole 'nother metaphor
429
00:18:26,757 --> 00:18:28,678
for what women do, right?
430
00:18:28,678 --> 00:18:30,180
At some point in our lives,
431
00:18:30,180 --> 00:18:31,600
we stop trying
to please everybody.
432
00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:35,190
‐ Turn the music up.
Up.
433
00:18:35,190 --> 00:18:36,610
MAN: You're such a diva,
Britney.
434
00:18:36,610 --> 00:18:37,737
‐ I'm not a diva.
MAN: You're such a diva.
435
00:18:37,737 --> 00:18:39,031
‐ I'm not a diva!
436
00:18:39,031 --> 00:18:40,702
I know what I like,
and I know what I want.
437
00:18:40,702 --> 00:18:44,876
KEVIN: She was definitely in
control of a lot of decisions.
438
00:18:44,876 --> 00:18:47,214
That idea that Britney
is a puppet
439
00:18:47,214 --> 00:18:50,220
who just gets moved around
and told what to do
440
00:18:50,220 --> 00:18:52,892
is incredibly inaccurate.
441
00:18:52,892 --> 00:18:56,065
When I was involved
in all of those years,
442
00:18:56,065 --> 00:18:58,278
we would present
a lot of ideas.
443
00:18:58,278 --> 00:18:59,615
She would have to like them,
444
00:18:59,615 --> 00:19:03,246
and she would have
to approve them.
445
00:19:03,246 --> 00:19:04,625
She was very creative.
446
00:19:04,625 --> 00:19:07,631
She was the one who knew
what she wanted to do,
447
00:19:07,631 --> 00:19:09,468
and she would
make that happen,
448
00:19:09,468 --> 00:19:11,680
or her people would make
that happen for her.
449
00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,099
That's how I got hired,
450
00:19:13,099 --> 00:19:14,936
is because
she just told somebody,
451
00:19:14,936 --> 00:19:16,440
"No, I want him to do it."
452
00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,318
And it happened
within an hour.
453
00:19:18,318 --> 00:19:19,780
Okay, that's a no.
454
00:19:19,780 --> 00:19:21,367
She was the boss.
455
00:19:21,367 --> 00:19:24,373
‐ [screaming]
456
00:19:25,290 --> 00:19:29,215
That is gonna be fucking cool
every night, man.
457
00:19:29,215 --> 00:19:31,595
That's gonna...
458
00:19:35,561 --> 00:19:37,314
‐ You just‐‐
459
00:19:38,108 --> 00:19:40,822
‐ Well, you just‐‐that's why
I am where I am today,
460
00:19:40,822 --> 00:19:43,076
is because I do have control,
you know?
461
00:19:43,076 --> 00:19:45,498
And you just‐‐you just control
what you do.
462
00:19:45,498 --> 00:19:47,084
You know, you have to.
463
00:19:47,084 --> 00:19:50,341
Otherwise, you get sucked in by
people that are not necessary.
464
00:19:50,341 --> 00:19:52,679
[crowd screaming]
465
00:19:52,679 --> 00:19:54,683
I'm just doing
my thing right now,
466
00:19:54,683 --> 00:19:56,018
just, you know, having fun.
467
00:19:56,018 --> 00:19:57,564
WESLEY: We don't have
royalty here.
468
00:19:57,564 --> 00:19:59,735
We've got‐‐we've got
famous people.
469
00:19:59,735 --> 00:20:01,195
What was interesting about
470
00:20:01,195 --> 00:20:02,532
the Britney Spears‐Justin
Timberlake relationship
471
00:20:02,532 --> 00:20:06,122
was that we hadn't
really had a kind of,
472
00:20:06,122 --> 00:20:09,504
you know,
American couple in a minute.
473
00:20:09,504 --> 00:20:11,508
‐ He said I love you to you
when you‐‐
474
00:20:11,508 --> 00:20:12,844
‐ He did.
I know, I saw.
475
00:20:12,844 --> 00:20:14,389
LIZ: And when they
got together,
476
00:20:14,389 --> 00:20:16,017
I think a lot
of people thought
477
00:20:16,017 --> 00:20:17,562
it was just totally perfect,
478
00:20:17,562 --> 00:20:19,023
and they wanted to know
everything
479
00:20:19,023 --> 00:20:20,860
about their relationship.
480
00:20:20,860 --> 00:20:23,031
‐ Am I a virgin?
481
00:20:23,031 --> 00:20:25,787
[laughter]
482
00:20:25,787 --> 00:20:28,041
[delicate music]
483
00:20:28,041 --> 00:20:29,836
Um, yes, I am a virgin,
484
00:20:29,836 --> 00:20:32,383
and I definitely wanna try
and have sex till I'm married.
485
00:20:32,383 --> 00:20:35,723
I just wanna wait for
that special someone, so...
486
00:20:35,723 --> 00:20:38,144
[quietly]
Thank you.
487
00:20:38,144 --> 00:20:40,858
DAVE: They break up.
488
00:20:40,858 --> 00:20:44,281
Justin sort of made it seem,
489
00:20:44,281 --> 00:20:46,870
rightly or wrongly,
like she had cheated on him.
490
00:20:46,870 --> 00:20:51,380
It really seemed like he took
control of the narrative.
491
00:20:51,380 --> 00:20:55,095
WESLEY: The way that people
treated her,
492
00:20:55,095 --> 00:20:56,682
to be very high school
about it,
493
00:20:56,682 --> 00:21:00,356
was, like,
she was the school slut,
494
00:21:00,356 --> 00:21:02,735
and he was, like,
495
00:21:02,735 --> 00:21:04,406
the school quarterback
or whatever,
496
00:21:04,406 --> 00:21:07,954
and he essentially
weaponizes the video
497
00:21:07,954 --> 00:21:12,129
for one of his singles
to incriminate her
498
00:21:12,129 --> 00:21:13,883
in the demise
of the relationship.
499
00:21:13,883 --> 00:21:15,761
‐ ♪ Tell me you love me ♪
500
00:21:15,761 --> 00:21:18,767
♪ Why did you leave me
all alone? ♪
501
00:21:18,767 --> 00:21:20,771
[song slows, stops]
502
00:21:20,771 --> 00:21:24,446
‐ It was a revenge,
pure male revenge fantasy.
503
00:21:24,446 --> 00:21:26,073
STAR: Justin Timberlake
is in the house,
504
00:21:26,073 --> 00:21:27,827
and I just wanna ask you
one question.
505
00:21:27,827 --> 00:21:29,748
Did you [bleep]
Britney Spears?
506
00:21:29,748 --> 00:21:31,752
[laughter]
507
00:21:31,752 --> 00:21:33,087
Yes or no?
508
00:21:33,087 --> 00:21:34,256
JUSTIN: Oh, man.
STAR: Come on, man.
509
00:21:34,256 --> 00:21:36,511
JUSTIN: Okay, I did it.
STAR: Yeah!
510
00:21:36,511 --> 00:21:38,599
‐ Well, you know, misogyny.
I don't know.
511
00:21:38,599 --> 00:21:40,018
What can you say
about misogyny?
512
00:21:40,018 --> 00:21:43,066
There's a whole infrastructure
to support it,
513
00:21:43,066 --> 00:21:48,076
and when it's time
for people to come,
514
00:21:48,076 --> 00:21:51,040
in a misogynistic culture,
for a woman,
515
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,004
there's a whole apparatus
ready to do it.
516
00:21:54,004 --> 00:21:57,010
[soft melancholy music]
517
00:21:57,010 --> 00:22:02,145
♪ ♪
518
00:22:02,145 --> 00:22:04,818
DIANE: I have to ask a
couple of things about Justin.
519
00:22:04,818 --> 00:22:06,822
‐ Okay, of course.
520
00:22:06,822 --> 00:22:08,784
‐ He has gone on television
521
00:22:08,784 --> 00:22:13,001
and pretty much said
you broke his heart,
522
00:22:13,001 --> 00:22:18,136
you did something
that caused him so much pain,
523
00:22:18,136 --> 00:22:20,265
so much suffering.
524
00:22:20,265 --> 00:22:21,643
What did you do?
525
00:22:21,643 --> 00:22:23,772
KEVIN: Her image
was being painted as,
526
00:22:23,772 --> 00:22:27,613
"Oh, what did you do
to cause the breakup?
527
00:22:27,613 --> 00:22:30,995
You must have done something,
not him."
528
00:22:30,995 --> 00:22:32,498
‐ Britney Spears has upset
529
00:22:32,498 --> 00:22:34,335
a lot of mothers
in this country,
530
00:22:34,335 --> 00:22:36,840
starting with the wife
of the governor of Maryland.
531
00:22:41,683 --> 00:22:43,437
‐ Oh, that's horrible.
532
00:22:43,437 --> 00:22:45,357
DIANE: Well, she‐‐
‐ That's really bad.
533
00:22:45,357 --> 00:22:46,693
‐ Because of the example
for kids
534
00:22:46,693 --> 00:22:48,154
and how hard it is
to be a parent.
535
00:22:48,154 --> 00:22:50,785
‐ Well, that's really sad
that she said that.
536
00:22:50,785 --> 00:22:52,079
Ew.
537
00:22:52,079 --> 00:22:57,214
I'm not here to, you know,
babysit her kids.
538
00:22:57,214 --> 00:23:02,850
‐ There's just that invisible
line that seemed to exist then
539
00:23:02,850 --> 00:23:06,023
that nobody knew how to handle,
540
00:23:06,023 --> 00:23:08,695
and nobody knew how
to help her handle it.
541
00:23:08,695 --> 00:23:11,868
‐ You've had a year that would
test a lot of people.
542
00:23:11,868 --> 00:23:15,584
‐ It was pretty rough, yeah.
Um...
543
00:23:15,584 --> 00:23:18,214
Oh, my goodness, hello.
544
00:23:18,214 --> 00:23:21,346
Ew.
Strong Britney.
545
00:23:21,346 --> 00:23:25,896
Um, yeah, it was a weird time.
546
00:23:27,232 --> 00:23:29,069
Ew, I'm embarrassed.
547
00:23:29,069 --> 00:23:31,491
Can we stop this?
548
00:23:37,837 --> 00:23:38,964
‐ Don't you think
it's something
549
00:23:38,964 --> 00:23:40,091
you really want
to do all the time,
550
00:23:40,091 --> 00:23:42,053
to be onstage,
dancing and singing?
551
00:23:42,053 --> 00:23:45,519
‐ I do that for fun.
That's not my life, you know?
552
00:23:45,519 --> 00:23:48,817
I see myself in the future
with my kids and my husband,
553
00:23:48,817 --> 00:23:53,327
and maybe do this on the side.
554
00:23:53,327 --> 00:23:56,165
Okay, I wanna introduce
you guys to my friend, Kevin.
555
00:23:56,165 --> 00:23:58,252
He's so cute.
556
00:23:58,252 --> 00:24:00,925
Hi.
557
00:24:00,925 --> 00:24:02,720
I feel like
I've been missing out.
558
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,097
‐ Okay.
559
00:24:04,097 --> 00:24:06,101
‐ I feel like I've been
missing out on life.
560
00:24:06,101 --> 00:24:08,440
‐ Like, what part of life?
‐ Life.
561
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,945
‐ I don't think I was
at all surprised
562
00:24:10,945 --> 00:24:13,074
when she and Kevin got engaged.
563
00:24:13,074 --> 00:24:15,203
ANNOUNCER: The announcement of
Britney's sudden engagement
564
00:24:15,203 --> 00:24:16,873
had the whole country talking.
565
00:24:16,873 --> 00:24:20,046
‐ She told me,
and then I remember her saying,
566
00:24:20,046 --> 00:24:21,591
"I gotta call my mama,"
567
00:24:21,591 --> 00:24:23,553
and I'm like,
"Absolutely you do."
568
00:24:23,553 --> 00:24:24,889
ANNOUNCER: But what do they
think about this guy,
569
00:24:24,889 --> 00:24:26,141
Kevin Federline, first of all?
570
00:24:26,141 --> 00:24:27,603
JESS: Well, Lynne Spears says
571
00:24:27,603 --> 00:24:29,774
that the two
have good karma together.
572
00:24:29,774 --> 00:24:31,110
LORA:
According to reports,
573
00:24:31,110 --> 00:24:32,947
the house you see behind me
here in Studio City
574
00:24:32,947 --> 00:24:35,619
is where Britney Spears
tied the knot Saturday night.
575
00:24:35,619 --> 00:24:39,042
[crowd screaming]
576
00:24:39,042 --> 00:24:41,464
[dramatic music]
577
00:24:41,464 --> 00:24:43,552
♪ ♪
578
00:24:43,552 --> 00:24:45,389
‐ My name is Brittain Stone,
and I was
579
00:24:45,389 --> 00:24:48,144
the photography director
of "Us Weekly"
580
00:24:48,144 --> 00:24:49,939
for about a decade.
581
00:24:49,939 --> 00:24:51,609
When I had
a really healthy budget,
582
00:24:51,609 --> 00:24:54,449
it'd be $140,000
a week on imagery.
583
00:24:54,449 --> 00:24:58,457
Extrapolate that over the year,
you know, $7 to 8 million,
584
00:24:58,457 --> 00:25:00,461
but, you know,
spending millions of dollars
585
00:25:00,461 --> 00:25:02,631
on pictures,
that just, you know,
586
00:25:02,631 --> 00:25:05,094
quintupled the amount of money
that was out there,
587
00:25:05,094 --> 00:25:07,307
which meant there were
a lot more photographers
588
00:25:07,307 --> 00:25:10,481
coming in and doing it.
589
00:25:10,481 --> 00:25:12,818
DANIEL: I never wanted to be
considered a paparazzi.
590
00:25:12,818 --> 00:25:15,324
I've always wanted
to be a filmmaker,
591
00:25:15,324 --> 00:25:17,787
but it sucks you right in,
and there's‐‐
592
00:25:17,787 --> 00:25:20,501
it's hard to get out of it
once you start making
593
00:25:20,501 --> 00:25:24,007
the kind of moneys
that these guys were making.
594
00:25:24,007 --> 00:25:25,636
ANNOUNCER: Photos of Britney
can sell
595
00:25:25,636 --> 00:25:27,515
for up to $1 million each.
596
00:25:27,515 --> 00:25:29,685
[ambient music]
597
00:25:29,685 --> 00:25:31,439
♪ ♪
598
00:25:31,439 --> 00:25:32,858
‐ Guys, be nice.
Guys, be nice.
599
00:25:32,858 --> 00:25:34,612
Everybody's gonna
get their shot.
600
00:25:34,612 --> 00:25:35,823
DANIEL: In the beginning,
601
00:25:35,823 --> 00:25:38,119
when paparazzis
were following Britney,
602
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:39,956
you could tell she enjoyed it.
603
00:25:39,956 --> 00:25:42,461
[indistinct chatter]
604
00:25:42,461 --> 00:25:44,256
PAPARAZZO: Britney,
talk to me, baby girl.
605
00:25:44,256 --> 00:25:47,303
DANIEL: She would give it up,
the shots, waving.
606
00:25:47,303 --> 00:25:52,690
She was very friendly,
a sweetheart of a girl.
607
00:25:52,690 --> 00:25:54,485
It was like she needed us,
and we needed her.
608
00:25:54,485 --> 00:25:56,364
We both needed each other,
609
00:25:56,364 --> 00:25:58,618
and it was a great
kind of relationship.
610
00:25:58,618 --> 00:25:59,996
‐ There's a party at my house.
611
00:25:59,996 --> 00:26:01,499
PAPARAZZO: All right,
let's go, let's go!
612
00:26:01,499 --> 00:26:03,712
‐ Yeah, Britney, let's do it!
PAPARAZZO: Yeah!
613
00:26:03,712 --> 00:26:05,006
PAPARAZZO: Thank you,
Britney.
614
00:26:05,006 --> 00:26:06,509
We love you, man, for sure.
615
00:26:06,509 --> 00:26:09,222
‐ Well, there was always
a little bit of a hunger
616
00:26:09,222 --> 00:26:12,688
for the unposed photographs.
617
00:26:12,688 --> 00:26:14,859
BRITNEY: Sometimes people's‐‐
their‐‐
618
00:26:14,859 --> 00:26:16,362
you know,
their personal life
619
00:26:16,362 --> 00:26:18,533
becomes bigger
than their work.
620
00:26:18,533 --> 00:26:22,541
‐ As we had more of that kind
of material in the magazine,
621
00:26:22,541 --> 00:26:24,921
you know,
the sales just went up.
622
00:26:24,921 --> 00:26:27,258
ELLEN: Britney Spears
and Kevin Federline!
623
00:26:27,258 --> 00:26:29,054
LIZ: Britney then makes
an announcement
624
00:26:29,054 --> 00:26:30,933
that attracts
even more paparazzi.
625
00:26:30,933 --> 00:26:33,229
‐ And now, the baby,
that's very exciting.
626
00:26:33,229 --> 00:26:35,316
Now, you have to be
really excited about that.
627
00:26:35,316 --> 00:26:37,821
‐ Yes, ma'am.
‐ The last‐‐yeah.
628
00:26:37,821 --> 00:26:40,243
[cheers and applause]
629
00:26:41,996 --> 00:26:43,416
You don't look pregnant.
630
00:26:43,416 --> 00:26:46,255
DANIEL: Once she started
having her kid
631
00:26:46,255 --> 00:26:48,718
with Kevin Federline,
632
00:26:48,718 --> 00:26:50,263
it exploded.
633
00:26:51,933 --> 00:26:54,772
‐ Keep him‐‐keep him in line.
Keep him back.
634
00:26:54,772 --> 00:26:56,859
DANIEL: Everyone wanted
a piece of Britney.
635
00:26:56,859 --> 00:26:58,405
The tabloids were paying
a lot of money.
636
00:26:58,405 --> 00:27:00,241
‐ Back away now.
637
00:27:00,241 --> 00:27:01,828
‐ We wanna know
what she's buying.
638
00:27:01,828 --> 00:27:04,917
‐ We're "People Magazine."
WOMAN: Oh, okay.
639
00:27:04,917 --> 00:27:07,923
‐ And almost immediately,
there's the perception
640
00:27:07,923 --> 00:27:10,804
from the tabloids that Britney
is an unfit mother.
641
00:27:10,804 --> 00:27:12,307
‐ Pop star Britney Spears
642
00:27:12,307 --> 00:27:13,935
is defending her actions
this morning
643
00:27:13,935 --> 00:27:16,273
after photos surfaced
of her driving
644
00:27:16,273 --> 00:27:18,611
with her infant son
in her lap on Monday.
645
00:27:18,611 --> 00:27:20,949
‐ The headline of
"The New York Post" yesterday,
646
00:27:20,949 --> 00:27:23,455
Britney tripping outside
a New York hotel Thursday
647
00:27:23,455 --> 00:27:26,001
while holding her
eight‐month‐old son in one hand
648
00:27:26,001 --> 00:27:28,172
and a glass of water
in the other.
649
00:27:28,172 --> 00:27:29,967
‐ Britney Spears
is on the hot seat.
650
00:27:29,967 --> 00:27:32,973
[soft dramatic music]
651
00:27:32,973 --> 00:27:39,235
♪ ♪
652
00:27:39,235 --> 00:27:40,614
MATT: You were photographed,
I guess,
653
00:27:40,614 --> 00:27:43,411
by the paparazzi again,
pursuing you.
654
00:27:43,411 --> 00:27:46,626
And there was Sean
on your lap in the car.
655
00:27:46,626 --> 00:27:47,878
‐ Yeah.
656
00:27:47,878 --> 00:27:49,715
‐ Take me through
what happened there.
657
00:27:49,715 --> 00:27:51,093
‐ I went to Starbucks,
658
00:27:51,093 --> 00:27:52,971
and I see a bunch of
photographers, and I'm scared,
659
00:27:52,971 --> 00:27:54,307
and I wanna get out
of the situation,
660
00:27:54,307 --> 00:27:55,936
and my baby's crying.
661
00:27:55,936 --> 00:27:59,485
They're coming up on the‐‐
you know, the sides of the car,
662
00:27:59,485 --> 00:28:01,948
which is a scary situation
for me, you know?
663
00:28:01,948 --> 00:28:03,785
And they're banging
on the windows,
664
00:28:03,785 --> 00:28:07,876
and that's not something
I want my baby to‐‐you know‐‐
665
00:28:07,876 --> 00:28:10,297
so I get my baby
out of the car, and I go home.
666
00:28:10,297 --> 00:28:13,680
So I mean‐‐and I just feel like
they're taking cheap shots.
667
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,976
[soft ambient music]
668
00:28:15,976 --> 00:28:18,021
♪ ♪
669
00:28:18,021 --> 00:28:20,652
MATT: We've got all these
legitimate people weighing in,
670
00:28:20,652 --> 00:28:23,491
saying, "You know what?
That's dangerous,
671
00:28:23,491 --> 00:28:25,454
and she put her child at risk."
672
00:28:25,454 --> 00:28:28,041
You saw the questions
that were being asked:
673
00:28:28,041 --> 00:28:30,129
"Is Britney a bad mom?"
674
00:28:30,129 --> 00:28:33,010
‐ Mm‐hmm.
That's America for you.
675
00:28:33,010 --> 00:28:35,181
[laughs]
676
00:28:36,684 --> 00:28:39,022
LIZ: Britney has two kids
almost back‐to‐back.
677
00:28:39,022 --> 00:28:40,859
She has her second baby
678
00:28:40,859 --> 00:28:44,032
just about a year
after having her first baby.
679
00:28:44,032 --> 00:28:46,203
There's a lot of speculation
over whether
680
00:28:46,203 --> 00:28:48,500
Britney and Kevin
have marital problems,
681
00:28:48,500 --> 00:28:50,294
and then a few weeks
after giving birth
682
00:28:50,294 --> 00:28:54,678
to her second child,
she files for divorce.
683
00:28:54,678 --> 00:28:58,227
Britney files for sole custody
of their two kids.
684
00:28:58,227 --> 00:29:01,567
The very next day, Kevin files
for sole custody himself.
685
00:29:03,738 --> 00:29:06,619
And in her book,
Britney's mother, Lynne,
686
00:29:06,619 --> 00:29:08,038
writes that she thinks
Britney was suffering
687
00:29:08,038 --> 00:29:11,253
from postpartum depression.
688
00:29:11,253 --> 00:29:14,552
‐ You know, the main thing that
people became fascinated with
689
00:29:14,552 --> 00:29:15,887
was her sort of unraveling.
690
00:29:15,887 --> 00:29:18,225
Fascinating to not just,
you know,
691
00:29:18,225 --> 00:29:19,687
your typical
celebrity fan base,
692
00:29:19,687 --> 00:29:21,064
but just to anyone.
693
00:29:21,064 --> 00:29:23,277
MAN: Let him through.
694
00:29:23,277 --> 00:29:25,407
ANNOUNCER: Britney and Paris
hooked up
695
00:29:25,407 --> 00:29:27,452
with party girl Lindsay Lohan.
696
00:29:27,452 --> 00:29:29,038
PAPARAZZO: There we go.
PAPARAZZO: There we go.
697
00:29:29,038 --> 00:29:31,377
JOE: She's basically
starting to lose interest
698
00:29:31,377 --> 00:29:34,383
in the very
carefully‐managed image
699
00:29:34,383 --> 00:29:36,219
of Britney Spears
as a pop star,
700
00:29:36,219 --> 00:29:37,931
and at the same time...
701
00:29:37,931 --> 00:29:39,560
‐ Hey, we can't see, guys.
702
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,021
JOE: That tabloid culture,
703
00:29:41,021 --> 00:29:42,608
they're reaching
the height of their power.
704
00:29:42,608 --> 00:29:44,277
ANNOUNCER: Britney Spears
must be paying
705
00:29:44,277 --> 00:29:46,574
the babysitter overtime.
706
00:29:46,574 --> 00:29:48,411
‐ The goal is not to sort of‐‐
707
00:29:48,411 --> 00:29:51,417
with these kinds of imagery,
be negative about people.
708
00:29:51,417 --> 00:29:54,923
It was to enjoy their lives
709
00:29:54,923 --> 00:29:58,263
in a somewhat
aspirational/relatable way.
710
00:30:01,102 --> 00:30:02,481
PAPARAZZO: Oh.
711
00:30:02,481 --> 00:30:03,941
GUARD: Watch out, watch out.
PAPARAZZO: Whoa, guys.
712
00:30:03,941 --> 00:30:05,862
GUARD: Let her out.
GUARD: Come on, go, back up.
713
00:30:05,862 --> 00:30:08,033
BOTH: Back up, back up,
back up.
714
00:30:08,033 --> 00:30:10,287
GUARD: Let her out,
let her out, let her out.
715
00:30:10,287 --> 00:30:13,336
GUARD: Let her walk.
716
00:30:13,336 --> 00:30:15,255
CLERK:
Watch your step, guys.
717
00:30:15,255 --> 00:30:17,093
Breaking everything!
718
00:30:17,093 --> 00:30:18,429
GUARD: Move back.
719
00:30:18,429 --> 00:30:19,848
PAPARAZZO:
Are you okay, Britney?
720
00:30:19,848 --> 00:30:21,519
PAPARAZZO:
Come this way, Britney.
721
00:30:21,519 --> 00:30:22,938
PAPARAZZO: Over here,
Britney, your car's here.
722
00:30:22,938 --> 00:30:24,358
PAPARAZZO:
You okay, Britney?
723
00:30:24,358 --> 00:30:26,152
GUARD: You need to move.
You need to move.
724
00:30:26,152 --> 00:30:27,989
PAPARAZZO: Careful.
FAN: Britney!
725
00:30:27,989 --> 00:30:29,451
FAN: I feel you!
726
00:30:29,451 --> 00:30:32,123
They shouldn't harass you
like that, Britney Spears.
727
00:30:32,123 --> 00:30:33,626
GUARD: Let her out,
let her out, let her out!
728
00:30:33,626 --> 00:30:35,630
PAPARAZZO: Hi, Britney,
how you doing today?
729
00:30:35,630 --> 00:30:36,924
You look gorgeous.
730
00:30:36,924 --> 00:30:38,176
GUARD: Come on, man.
731
00:30:38,176 --> 00:30:40,598
Hey, move it!
stop, stop, stop it!
732
00:30:40,598 --> 00:30:42,309
PAPARAZZO: Relax, relax.
733
00:30:42,309 --> 00:30:44,648
‐ Hey, hey, really‐‐
what the fuck, man?
734
00:30:44,648 --> 00:30:47,904
Stop it, stop it!
Fuck, stop!
735
00:30:47,904 --> 00:30:49,491
‐ Hey!
‐ Stop it!
736
00:30:49,491 --> 00:30:52,330
[shouting over each other]
737
00:30:53,081 --> 00:30:54,752
GUARD: Let her out.
Come on!
738
00:30:54,752 --> 00:30:55,837
Come on!
739
00:30:55,837 --> 00:30:58,676
[indistinct chatter]
740
00:30:58,676 --> 00:31:00,262
‐ Please don't fight.
I'm scared.
741
00:31:00,262 --> 00:31:01,682
I'm scared, I'm scared,
I'm scared.
742
00:31:01,682 --> 00:31:03,686
Where's the door?
743
00:31:03,686 --> 00:31:05,105
GUARD: Back it up, back it up,
back it up.
744
00:31:05,105 --> 00:31:07,527
Let her in, let her in.
745
00:31:07,527 --> 00:31:10,658
GUARD: Go, move, move!
Guys, let's go, move out!
746
00:31:10,658 --> 00:31:14,333
[faint indistinct chatter]
747
00:31:19,510 --> 00:31:21,514
‐ Why are you so close
to my car?
748
00:31:21,514 --> 00:31:22,849
MATT: What do you think
it'll take
749
00:31:22,849 --> 00:31:24,853
to get the paparazzi
to leave you alone?
750
00:31:26,690 --> 00:31:30,155
‐ Um, I don't know.
751
00:31:30,155 --> 00:31:33,663
I don't know.
752
00:31:33,663 --> 00:31:36,669
[soft dramatic music]
753
00:31:36,669 --> 00:31:38,673
♪ ♪
754
00:31:43,181 --> 00:31:46,522
MATT: Is that one of
your biggest wishes?
755
00:31:51,323 --> 00:31:54,371
‐ [sobs]
Yeah.
756
00:31:54,371 --> 00:31:56,291
[engine turns]
757
00:31:56,291 --> 00:31:59,297
[light tense music]
758
00:31:59,297 --> 00:32:03,681
♪ ♪
759
00:32:03,681 --> 00:32:06,896
‐ Come on, guys.
‐ Hey, hey.
760
00:32:06,896 --> 00:32:09,233
DON: We will turn now
to a story
761
00:32:09,233 --> 00:32:10,987
that is burning up
the Internet.
762
00:32:10,987 --> 00:32:12,156
It's just burning
this morning.
763
00:32:12,156 --> 00:32:13,409
‐ Everybody's talking about it.
‐ Yes.
764
00:32:13,409 --> 00:32:14,870
Britney Spears, she's bald.
765
00:32:14,870 --> 00:32:17,876
[soft melancholy music]
766
00:32:17,876 --> 00:32:19,295
HAIRDRESSER: She came in,
and she said
767
00:32:19,295 --> 00:32:20,924
she wanted her head shaved.
768
00:32:20,924 --> 00:32:22,469
The hairdresser refused,
769
00:32:22,469 --> 00:32:25,391
so she literally
grabbed her‐‐
770
00:32:25,391 --> 00:32:28,940
the hair clipper
and started doing it herself.
771
00:32:28,940 --> 00:32:31,319
And she said, "I don't want
anyone touching me.
772
00:32:31,319 --> 00:32:34,116
I'm tired of
everybody touching me."
773
00:32:34,116 --> 00:32:37,039
♪ ♪
774
00:32:37,039 --> 00:32:38,751
KIM: It's so easy.
775
00:32:38,751 --> 00:32:42,592
It's so much fun
to take a celebrity
776
00:32:42,592 --> 00:32:45,305
who's a young, beautiful,
talented girl
777
00:32:45,305 --> 00:32:46,934
and rip her to shreds.
778
00:32:46,934 --> 00:32:50,065
DAVID: It was so cold, Britney
Spears had a chapped head.
779
00:32:50,065 --> 00:32:51,610
JAY: Friends say this is
the craziest thing
780
00:32:51,610 --> 00:32:53,406
Britney's ever done
that didn't involve marriage.
781
00:32:53,406 --> 00:32:54,950
It's unbelievable.
782
00:32:54,950 --> 00:32:57,287
WESLEY: And so she's saying,
essentially,
783
00:32:57,287 --> 00:33:00,420
with no hair,
"I quit.
784
00:33:00,420 --> 00:33:03,968
"Whatever you guys are looking
for in terms of me coming back
785
00:33:03,968 --> 00:33:05,722
"and being that person again,
I'm not‐‐
786
00:33:05,722 --> 00:33:07,976
"that person is gone,
and you have‐‐
787
00:33:07,976 --> 00:33:09,479
you have destroyed her."
788
00:33:09,479 --> 00:33:12,109
[indistinct chatter]
789
00:33:12,109 --> 00:33:13,738
The idea that people
could look at that
790
00:33:13,738 --> 00:33:16,910
and only see a crazy person,
well, just‐‐
791
00:33:16,910 --> 00:33:19,416
that just tells me that‐‐
you know,
792
00:33:19,416 --> 00:33:23,799
what a‐‐
what a vulturous society
793
00:33:23,799 --> 00:33:26,095
she was working with
to begin with.
794
00:33:35,113 --> 00:33:36,867
FAN: Hi, Britney.
FAN: Hey, Britney.
795
00:33:36,867 --> 00:33:38,370
DANIEL: It definitely gives me
796
00:33:38,370 --> 00:33:40,666
a different perspective
of it now, you know,
797
00:33:40,666 --> 00:33:43,171
especially after
so many years.
798
00:33:43,171 --> 00:33:44,883
When you're caught up
into that whole thing,
799
00:33:44,883 --> 00:33:46,345
in that spider web,
800
00:33:46,345 --> 00:33:50,436
you don't really see what
the celebrity is going through.
801
00:33:50,436 --> 00:33:53,442
[dramatic music]
802
00:33:53,442 --> 00:33:57,784
♪ ♪
803
00:33:57,784 --> 00:33:59,955
Roberto calls me up,
and he goes,
804
00:33:59,955 --> 00:34:02,836
"Dano, don't call anyone.
805
00:34:02,836 --> 00:34:05,842
"Get your camera,
your video camera over here,
806
00:34:05,842 --> 00:34:07,929
"and maybe you can get this,
that I'm‐‐
807
00:34:07,929 --> 00:34:10,518
that I'm getting
Britney Spears by myself."
808
00:34:11,478 --> 00:34:13,858
I caught up eventually
with him,
809
00:34:13,858 --> 00:34:17,699
and she was going out visiting
Kevin Federline at his home.
810
00:34:17,699 --> 00:34:19,369
The kids meant
the world to Britney,
811
00:34:19,369 --> 00:34:23,042
and she wanted to see her kids,
and Kevin said no.
812
00:34:25,172 --> 00:34:27,217
They went to a gas station.
813
00:34:27,217 --> 00:34:31,435
She was with her cousin, Alli.
814
00:34:31,435 --> 00:34:33,898
I looked at Britney
from the windshield,
815
00:34:33,898 --> 00:34:35,776
and I was videotaping her,
and I said...
816
00:34:46,005 --> 00:34:48,051
♪ ♪
817
00:34:48,051 --> 00:34:51,140
We go back
to Kevin Federline's house.
818
00:34:51,140 --> 00:34:53,854
She buzzes the door again.
819
00:34:53,854 --> 00:34:57,529
He doesn't open the gate.
Well, now she's upset.
820
00:35:01,077 --> 00:35:05,336
So they pull up behind
a Jiffy Lube store.
821
00:35:07,047 --> 00:35:10,763
I tell Britney, "Hey, Britney,
all I'm gonna do
822
00:35:10,763 --> 00:35:13,686
"is I'm just gonna ask you
a couple of questions,
823
00:35:13,686 --> 00:35:15,398
and then I'm gonna
leave you alone."
824
00:35:15,398 --> 00:35:16,608
And Alli's coming up to me,
825
00:35:16,608 --> 00:35:17,777
and she's like,
"Guys, please, please."
826
00:35:17,777 --> 00:35:19,280
ALLI: Please, guys, don't.
827
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:20,783
Guys, please.
Please, guys, don't do this.
828
00:35:20,783 --> 00:35:22,579
DANIEL: And Britney
just grabbed the umbrella,
829
00:35:22,579 --> 00:35:25,793
started coming after me,
and starts beating
830
00:35:25,793 --> 00:35:28,924
the passenger side
of my truck.
831
00:35:28,924 --> 00:35:31,220
BRITNEY: [indistinct shouting]
832
00:35:31,220 --> 00:35:35,896
Fuck you!
Fuck yourself.
833
00:35:35,896 --> 00:35:38,777
MAN: Hey, you gonna get
in trouble for that.
834
00:35:38,777 --> 00:35:42,242
DANIEL: That night was
not a good night for her.
835
00:35:42,242 --> 00:35:43,829
WOMAN: Oh, wow,
she did that too?
836
00:35:43,829 --> 00:35:45,625
DANIEL: And it was not
a good night for us.
837
00:35:45,625 --> 00:35:48,631
WOMAN: Oh, my God.
838
00:35:49,173 --> 00:35:50,468
‐ But it was
a good night for us
839
00:35:50,468 --> 00:35:52,304
'cause it was a money shot.
840
00:35:52,304 --> 00:35:55,310
[tense music]
841
00:35:55,310 --> 00:35:59,151
♪ ♪
842
00:35:59,151 --> 00:36:00,488
INTERVIEWER: Do you think
the paparazzi
843
00:36:00,488 --> 00:36:03,952
being around
affected her at all?
844
00:36:03,952 --> 00:36:06,958
‐ I don't really think
and I don't really believe
845
00:36:06,958 --> 00:36:10,883
because‐‐you know, working
on her for so many years,
846
00:36:10,883 --> 00:36:16,310
she never gave a clue
or information to us that,
847
00:36:16,310 --> 00:36:20,820
"I don't appreciate you guys.
Leave me the eff alone."
848
00:36:20,820 --> 00:36:23,659
INTERVIEWER: What about when
she said, "Leave me alone"?
849
00:36:23,659 --> 00:36:24,953
‐ There were times
where she's like,
850
00:36:24,953 --> 00:36:27,290
"Can you leave me alone
for the day?"
851
00:36:27,290 --> 00:36:29,044
But it wasn't like,
"Leave me alone forever,"
852
00:36:29,044 --> 00:36:31,675
you know what I mean?
853
00:36:31,675 --> 00:36:33,345
HOST: The shaving of the head,
854
00:36:33,345 --> 00:36:35,891
the umbrella scene
with the paparazzi,
855
00:36:35,891 --> 00:36:39,189
stints in rehab
where she blames you for that,
856
00:36:39,189 --> 00:36:42,195
and your relationship
with her begins to dissolve.
857
00:36:42,195 --> 00:36:44,701
What is happening
to your family at that point?
858
00:36:44,701 --> 00:36:47,038
LYNNE: It was so crazy
at that time.
859
00:36:47,038 --> 00:36:49,209
I don't think anybody
was even trying to sit
860
00:36:49,209 --> 00:36:50,713
and think of what was going on.
861
00:36:50,713 --> 00:36:52,884
We were just trying to do what
we could do at that moment,
862
00:36:52,884 --> 00:36:54,345
at that time,
863
00:36:54,345 --> 00:36:58,479
and we were praying very hard
because it seemed like
864
00:36:58,479 --> 00:37:01,317
we had no control over anything
that was happening.
865
00:37:01,317 --> 00:37:04,324
[dramatic music]
866
00:37:04,324 --> 00:37:07,538
♪ ♪
867
00:37:07,538 --> 00:37:09,291
WESLEY: She fired her
longtime manager.
868
00:37:09,291 --> 00:37:10,628
She's grown very estranged
869
00:37:10,628 --> 00:37:12,255
from various
members of her family.
870
00:37:12,255 --> 00:37:14,844
LIZ: More and more we've heard
how she's very alienated,
871
00:37:14,844 --> 00:37:16,973
that she will try to befriend
almost anyone.
872
00:37:16,973 --> 00:37:20,230
I mean, she's just desperately
seeking friendship.
873
00:37:20,230 --> 00:37:23,152
ANNOUNCER: If you're asking,
"Who is Sam Lutfi?"
874
00:37:23,152 --> 00:37:25,073
he is the latest
in a long line
875
00:37:25,073 --> 00:37:28,413
of the mysterious men
in Britney's life.
876
00:37:28,413 --> 00:37:31,545
JOE: Sam Lutfi just sort of
came out of nowhere.
877
00:37:31,545 --> 00:37:33,172
‐ You guys,
further apart please.
878
00:37:33,172 --> 00:37:38,725
‐ He's one of these
self‐invented guru types
879
00:37:38,725 --> 00:37:42,400
who is constantly attaching
himself to celebrities,
880
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,571
often at vulnerable moments
for them.
881
00:37:44,571 --> 00:37:46,366
HOST: We're on the air
at KIIS FM.
882
00:37:46,366 --> 00:37:48,912
BRITNEY: Hi.
HOST: Good morning, Britney.
883
00:37:48,912 --> 00:37:50,541
Today, the album's been out
for a day or so.
884
00:37:50,541 --> 00:37:52,168
What will you do?
885
00:37:52,168 --> 00:37:53,589
Will you promote the album?
What are you gonna be doing?
886
00:37:53,589 --> 00:37:55,174
SAM: This is it.
HOST: This is it?
887
00:37:55,174 --> 00:37:57,430
SAM: Doing all these calls.
HOST: This is the promotion?
888
00:37:57,430 --> 00:38:02,899
‐ Sam was her sort of advisor,
trying to be her manager.
889
00:38:02,899 --> 00:38:05,863
HOST: You've obviously been
aware of the conversation
890
00:38:05,863 --> 00:38:08,242
about your kids.
How often will you see them?
891
00:38:08,242 --> 00:38:12,000
BRITNEY: Oh, we want, um, my
lawyers to do all that stuff.
892
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,212
SAM: Talk about fun stuff.
BRITNEY: Yeah.
893
00:38:14,212 --> 00:38:15,758
HOST: Okay, Sam, what do you
wanna talk about?
894
00:38:15,758 --> 00:38:19,515
‐ So Sam Lutfi was basically,
you know, seen by her parents
895
00:38:19,515 --> 00:38:23,690
as the architect
of a lot of Britney's downfall.
896
00:38:23,690 --> 00:38:25,276
PAPARAZZO: Let's go.
Let's go.
897
00:38:25,276 --> 00:38:26,947
GUEST: Shaved her head,
attacked the paparazzi,
898
00:38:26,947 --> 00:38:28,617
more custody drama.
899
00:38:28,617 --> 00:38:30,119
Thank you, Britney Spears.
900
00:38:30,119 --> 00:38:31,581
Being bad is good
for my business.
901
00:38:31,581 --> 00:38:34,462
[laughs]
HOST: Oh, I know that.
902
00:38:34,462 --> 00:38:37,468
[dramatic music]
903
00:38:37,468 --> 00:38:38,971
‐ And nobody was talking
about mental health
904
00:38:38,971 --> 00:38:42,185
when Britney Spears
was going through
905
00:38:42,185 --> 00:38:43,981
all of that stuff in public.
906
00:38:43,981 --> 00:38:46,653
The conversation was about
what was wrong with her.
907
00:38:46,653 --> 00:38:48,657
There was too much money
to be made off her suffering.
908
00:38:56,423 --> 00:38:57,466
‐ Name something
Britney Spears has lost
909
00:38:57,466 --> 00:38:58,677
in the past year.
910
00:38:58,677 --> 00:39:00,138
[indistinct]?
911
00:39:00,138 --> 00:39:01,474
‐ Her husband.
‐ Her husband?
912
00:39:01,474 --> 00:39:04,564
Let's see how that stacks up,
her husband.
913
00:39:04,564 --> 00:39:06,316
It's something
but not number one‐‐Lindsey?
914
00:39:06,316 --> 00:39:10,576
‐ Hair.
‐ The hair, lost a lot of hair.
915
00:39:10,576 --> 00:39:12,663
There it is.
916
00:39:12,663 --> 00:39:16,588
[indistinct].
917
00:39:16,588 --> 00:39:18,174
What has she lost?
918
00:39:18,174 --> 00:39:21,180
‐ She has lost her sanity.
919
00:39:21,180 --> 00:39:23,810
‐ Has she lost her mind?
920
00:39:23,810 --> 00:39:25,814
[cheers and applause]
921
00:39:25,814 --> 00:39:28,194
[melancholy music]
922
00:39:28,194 --> 00:39:29,697
ANNOUNCER: A media frenzy
923
00:39:29,697 --> 00:39:31,283
around an ambulance
in Los Angeles.
924
00:39:31,283 --> 00:39:33,497
Police say they were called
to Spears' home Thursday night
925
00:39:33,497 --> 00:39:34,957
over a custody dispute.
926
00:39:34,957 --> 00:39:36,669
ANNOUNCER; She refused
a court order
927
00:39:36,669 --> 00:39:38,047
to turn her two children‐‐
928
00:39:38,047 --> 00:39:39,550
ANNOUNCER: She was supposed
to hand over
929
00:39:39,550 --> 00:39:41,638
her two sons last night
to Federline but refused.
930
00:39:41,638 --> 00:39:43,182
ANNOUNCER: She reportedly had
barricaded herself
931
00:39:43,182 --> 00:39:44,727
inside the room at one point.
932
00:39:44,727 --> 00:39:46,397
ANNOUNCER: She was rushed
to the hospital overnight.
933
00:39:46,397 --> 00:39:48,192
ANNOUNCER: Was wheeled out
and brought here
934
00:39:48,192 --> 00:39:49,862
to Cedars‐Sinai Hospital
in distress.
935
00:39:49,862 --> 00:39:51,366
ANNOUNCER:
Was it the pressure?
936
00:39:51,366 --> 00:39:52,868
Anxiety disorder?
No one could say what it is.
937
00:39:52,868 --> 00:39:55,081
ANNOUNCER: Is under
psychiatric evaluation
938
00:39:55,081 --> 00:39:57,503
that is involuntary,
by the way...
939
00:39:57,503 --> 00:39:59,715
ANNOUNCER: In an emergency
session Friday,
940
00:39:59,715 --> 00:40:02,262
a family court judge
suspended Spears' right
941
00:40:02,262 --> 00:40:04,809
to even see her children.
942
00:40:04,809 --> 00:40:06,354
ANNOUNCER: Britney Spears made
943
00:40:06,354 --> 00:40:07,857
an ever so brief appearance
944
00:40:07,857 --> 00:40:09,735
outside a Los Angeles
courthouse Monday, met by...
945
00:40:09,735 --> 00:40:13,702
‐ Change in visitation
that removed
946
00:40:13,702 --> 00:40:16,958
Ms. Spears stays in force.
947
00:40:16,958 --> 00:40:18,795
REPORTER: Until when?
948
00:40:18,795 --> 00:40:22,051
‐ Indefinitely.
949
00:40:22,051 --> 00:40:23,847
ANNOUNCER: Earlier today,
Britney Spears was taken
950
00:40:23,847 --> 00:40:25,809
to the hospital for
the second time this month.
951
00:40:25,809 --> 00:40:27,145
ANNOUNCER: We are told that
she's been placed
952
00:40:27,145 --> 00:40:29,065
on a 5150 hold.
953
00:40:29,065 --> 00:40:33,366
That is essentially
a medical health hold...
954
00:40:33,366 --> 00:40:36,288
PAPARAZZO: Mr. Spears, can you
tell us what's going on?
955
00:40:36,288 --> 00:40:37,917
How's Britney doing?
956
00:40:37,917 --> 00:40:40,631
‐ So around this time,
Jamie, Britney's father,
957
00:40:40,631 --> 00:40:44,137
files for temporary
conservatorship over Britney.
958
00:40:44,137 --> 00:40:46,225
‐ We hope the best
for your daughter, sir.
959
00:40:46,225 --> 00:40:48,647
LIZ: Conservatorships are
a unique legal arrangement,
960
00:40:48,647 --> 00:40:50,776
usually designed
for elderly people
961
00:40:50,776 --> 00:40:53,573
who are unable to take care
of themselves or their money.
962
00:40:53,573 --> 00:40:54,951
The court gives
someone else
963
00:40:54,951 --> 00:40:57,247
special powers
to make decisions for them.
964
00:40:57,247 --> 00:40:59,710
‐ Is she voluntarily going?
965
00:40:59,710 --> 00:41:01,255
Is this a voluntary thing,
or is it‐‐
966
00:41:01,255 --> 00:41:02,716
LIZ: It's unusual,
967
00:41:02,716 --> 00:41:05,263
because Britney's
so young and productive,
968
00:41:05,263 --> 00:41:07,768
but there's speculation
that she may be dealing with
969
00:41:07,768 --> 00:41:11,776
mental illness issues
or drug abuse issues,
970
00:41:11,776 --> 00:41:15,867
or otherwise would benefit
from this layer of protection.
971
00:41:15,867 --> 00:41:17,788
And it's sort of surprising
in that
972
00:41:17,788 --> 00:41:20,251
Jamie wasn't a huge figure
in her life before this.
973
00:41:20,251 --> 00:41:21,587
‐ Get out. Get out.
‐ Get out.
974
00:41:21,587 --> 00:41:23,299
‐ All right,
now everybody out, get out.
975
00:41:25,637 --> 00:41:28,435
VIVIAN: My name is
Vivian Lee Thoreen.
976
00:41:28,435 --> 00:41:31,941
I was involved
as an attorney of record
977
00:41:31,941 --> 00:41:35,324
for the first few months of the
conservatorship proceedings.
978
00:41:35,324 --> 00:41:38,997
Our client was Jamie Spears,
Britney's father.
979
00:41:38,997 --> 00:41:41,461
I can't talk about
anything specific that I did,
980
00:41:41,461 --> 00:41:42,963
but I guess
I could talk about it
981
00:41:42,963 --> 00:41:45,927
in a more, like,
hypothetical situation.
982
00:41:45,927 --> 00:41:48,975
The courts take conservatorship
proceedings really seriously,
983
00:41:48,975 --> 00:41:50,520
and that's because, I think,
984
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,608
every person's rights
are sacred.
985
00:41:52,608 --> 00:41:55,489
There are rules and procedures
in place
986
00:41:55,489 --> 00:41:58,035
to make sure
that there's accountability.
987
00:41:58,035 --> 00:42:02,461
And really,
the theme of conservatorships
988
00:42:02,461 --> 00:42:06,386
is to act in the conservatee's
best interests.
989
00:42:06,386 --> 00:42:09,307
Some people need a conservator
just of the person.
990
00:42:09,307 --> 00:42:11,521
"I need help figuring out
what I'm gonna eat,
991
00:42:11,521 --> 00:42:12,856
"where I'm gonna live,
992
00:42:12,856 --> 00:42:14,360
and help brushing my teeth,"
that sort of thing.
993
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,533
Having a conservator of the
estate appointed for someone
994
00:42:17,533 --> 00:42:20,580
is that they are
substantially unable
995
00:42:20,580 --> 00:42:23,252
to manage
their financial affairs,
996
00:42:23,252 --> 00:42:27,344
or they are susceptible
to undue influence or fraud.
997
00:42:27,344 --> 00:42:30,015
It's more than just,
"I can't balance my checkbook."
998
00:42:30,015 --> 00:42:33,147
It's "I could be duped
into giving away my money."
999
00:42:33,147 --> 00:42:35,861
[camera shutter snapping]
1000
00:42:38,031 --> 00:42:39,535
‐ It seems like undue influence
1001
00:42:39,535 --> 00:42:41,414
was a real concern
for Britney's parents.
1002
00:42:41,414 --> 00:42:44,378
‐ Hey, get out of her face.
1003
00:42:44,378 --> 00:42:47,049
I mean now.
Let's go, Lynne.
1004
00:42:47,049 --> 00:42:49,012
‐ Are you gonna get a
restraining order against Sam?
1005
00:42:49,012 --> 00:42:50,390
Or you guys had been?
1006
00:42:50,390 --> 00:42:51,684
LIZ: They file
for a restraining order
1007
00:42:51,684 --> 00:42:53,438
against Sam Lutfi.
1008
00:42:53,438 --> 00:42:55,232
They allege in court documents
that Lutfi
1009
00:42:55,232 --> 00:42:56,903
had taken control
of Britney's life,
1010
00:42:56,903 --> 00:42:58,698
her house, and her finances,
1011
00:42:58,698 --> 00:43:01,244
and even had been
drugging her.
1012
00:43:01,244 --> 00:43:02,915
PAPARAZZO: Sam,
can you tell us something?
1013
00:43:02,915 --> 00:43:04,460
LIZ: Lutfi denies
the allegations.
1014
00:43:04,460 --> 00:43:05,921
PAPARAZZO: Can you
tell us anything?
1015
00:43:05,921 --> 00:43:08,175
LIZ: But the court grants
a restraining order.
1016
00:43:08,175 --> 00:43:09,720
GUARD: Let's go, keep going.
‐ Let's go, let's go.
1017
00:43:09,720 --> 00:43:11,349
‐ Keep going right now.
1018
00:43:11,349 --> 00:43:13,227
LIZ: But Lutfi never seems
to really exit the picture.
1019
00:43:13,227 --> 00:43:14,563
‐ Keep going.
‐ What's going on?
1020
00:43:14,563 --> 00:43:15,857
‐ No, keep going.
‐ All right.
1021
00:43:15,857 --> 00:43:17,361
LIZ: He later sues the family
1022
00:43:17,361 --> 00:43:19,573
and pops up in subsequent
restraining orders
1023
00:43:19,573 --> 00:43:21,076
as recently as 2019.
1024
00:43:21,076 --> 00:43:22,496
SAM: Hope you get better,
Britney.
1025
00:43:23,915 --> 00:43:25,835
LIZ: One day after Britney
was hospitalized,
1026
00:43:25,835 --> 00:43:29,175
the court grants
a temporary conservatorship.
1027
00:43:29,175 --> 00:43:33,100
Britney's dad gets appointed
the conservator of her person.
1028
00:43:33,100 --> 00:43:36,064
Then in terms
of Britney's money,
1029
00:43:36,064 --> 00:43:38,736
he also gets appointed
conservator of her estate,
1030
00:43:38,736 --> 00:43:42,619
alongside an attorney
named Andrew Wallet.
1031
00:43:42,619 --> 00:43:45,124
ANNOUNCER: Just six days after
being taken to the hospital
1032
00:43:45,124 --> 00:43:47,211
against her will
in an ambulance
1033
00:43:47,211 --> 00:43:49,550
under police guard,
the troubled pop star
1034
00:43:49,550 --> 00:43:51,261
was released
without fanfare Wednesday.
1035
00:43:51,261 --> 00:43:52,889
‐ Shocking new development
in the sad story
1036
00:43:52,889 --> 00:43:54,935
of Britney Spears.
She's now out of the hospital.
1037
00:43:54,935 --> 00:43:56,313
She went straight from there
1038
00:43:56,313 --> 00:43:57,983
to the Beverly Hills Hotel,
of all places.
1039
00:43:57,983 --> 00:43:59,820
All that and more later
at the top of the hour.
1040
00:43:59,820 --> 00:44:01,281
‐ That's Anderson Cooper
at 10:00‐‐
1041
00:44:01,281 --> 00:44:02,784
‐ you wanna say something?
MICHAEL: I was gonna say,
1042
00:44:02,784 --> 00:44:04,203
it'd be less sad
if we just left her alone.
1043
00:44:04,203 --> 00:44:06,334
I mean, why don't we just
leave her alone and let her‐‐
1044
00:44:06,334 --> 00:44:09,005
let her just go on
with her life?
1045
00:44:09,005 --> 00:44:12,387
♪ ♪
1046
00:44:12,387 --> 00:44:15,477
‐ I'm Adam Streisand.
I'm a trial lawyer.
1047
00:44:15,477 --> 00:44:19,735
And my practice is focused
on conservatorships
1048
00:44:19,735 --> 00:44:21,947
and battles over estates.
1049
00:44:21,947 --> 00:44:24,411
PAPARAZZO: Hi, Britney.
How you doing, sweetheart?
1050
00:44:24,411 --> 00:44:26,457
Good to see you.
1051
00:44:26,457 --> 00:44:29,963
ADAM: I got a call from
Britney's family law attorneys
1052
00:44:29,963 --> 00:44:32,386
and asked me if I would speak
to Britney because,
1053
00:44:32,386 --> 00:44:35,307
well, the whole world knew
that her father
1054
00:44:35,307 --> 00:44:37,562
was trying to establish
a conservatorship over her.
1055
00:44:37,562 --> 00:44:39,107
PAPARAZZO:
Hey, she's trying to get out!
1056
00:44:39,107 --> 00:44:40,568
[indistinct chatter]
1057
00:44:40,568 --> 00:44:41,696
PAPARAZZO: Come on, Britney.
1058
00:44:41,696 --> 00:44:43,031
GUARD: Let her go through,
please.
1059
00:44:43,031 --> 00:44:44,368
Give her some room to go
through, give her some room.
1060
00:44:44,368 --> 00:44:45,870
ADAM: I met with Britney.
1061
00:44:45,870 --> 00:44:48,166
‐ Hey, be careful!
You're hurting her.
1062
00:44:48,166 --> 00:44:49,586
‐ Back up!
1063
00:44:49,586 --> 00:44:52,174
ADAM: We agreed to meet at
the Beverly Hills Hotel.
1064
00:44:52,174 --> 00:44:53,720
Well, that's pretty famous,
1065
00:44:53,720 --> 00:44:55,890
'cause there was
a lot of paparazzi.
1066
00:44:55,890 --> 00:44:58,980
And the first question
I had was,
1067
00:44:58,980 --> 00:45:02,487
"Does Britney have the capacity
to be able to hire me?
1068
00:45:02,487 --> 00:45:06,829
Does she have the ability
to take my advice?"
1069
00:45:06,829 --> 00:45:09,793
The first thing is Britney
was able to make the judgment,
1070
00:45:09,793 --> 00:45:11,338
"Hey, I get what's going on.
1071
00:45:11,338 --> 00:45:13,300
"I get that
I'm not gonna be able to
1072
00:45:13,300 --> 00:45:14,803
"resist this conservatorship
1073
00:45:14,803 --> 00:45:16,515
or avoid this conservatorship,"
right?
1074
00:45:16,515 --> 00:45:18,686
So that's a pretty
sound judgment.
1075
00:45:18,686 --> 00:45:21,191
The second thing was she said,
1076
00:45:21,191 --> 00:45:23,821
"I don't want my father
to be the conservator."
1077
00:45:23,821 --> 00:45:25,450
That was her one request.
1078
00:45:25,450 --> 00:45:28,498
She wanted a professional,
somebody independent.
1079
00:45:28,498 --> 00:45:30,042
INTERVIEWER: And was she
opposed to her dad
1080
00:45:30,042 --> 00:45:33,716
as the conservator of the
estate, the person, or both?
1081
00:45:33,716 --> 00:45:35,219
‐ Both.
1082
00:45:35,219 --> 00:45:36,972
Britney did not want her father
1083
00:45:36,972 --> 00:45:39,227
to be the conservator
of her person, right?
1084
00:45:39,227 --> 00:45:42,859
The person who makes decisions
about her medical care
1085
00:45:42,859 --> 00:45:45,239
and treatment,
and so on and so forth.
1086
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,663
She also didn't want him
controlling her finances.
1087
00:45:48,663 --> 00:45:50,834
[soft tense music]
1088
00:45:50,834 --> 00:45:55,885
The day that I went to court
for her, the judge said, um,
1089
00:45:55,885 --> 00:45:57,681
"I've got a medical report,
1090
00:45:57,681 --> 00:45:59,351
"and you haven't seen it,
Mr. Streisand,
1091
00:45:59,351 --> 00:46:01,229
"and I'm not gonna
show it to you,
1092
00:46:01,229 --> 00:46:06,072
"and it shows that she's not
capable of retaining counsel
1093
00:46:06,072 --> 00:46:08,076
and directing counsel
on her own."
1094
00:46:08,076 --> 00:46:09,580
When the judge told me,
1095
00:46:09,580 --> 00:46:12,377
"Mr. Streisand, I'm not gonna
let you represent her.
1096
00:46:12,377 --> 00:46:14,756
I'm going to appoint somebody,"
1097
00:46:14,756 --> 00:46:19,098
I felt that was not the right
decision by the judge.
1098
00:46:19,098 --> 00:46:22,439
I felt that, based on
my interactions with Britney,
1099
00:46:22,439 --> 00:46:26,947
that she was capable of
retaining me and directing me
1100
00:46:26,947 --> 00:46:28,993
and that the judge should have
allowed that to happen.
1101
00:46:28,993 --> 00:46:30,413
‐ Can you give us some kind of
a heads‐up
1102
00:46:30,413 --> 00:46:32,082
on what happened here today?
‐ No, I'm sorry.
1103
00:46:32,082 --> 00:46:34,713
I'm not gonna‐‐gonna be giving
any statements on her.
1104
00:46:34,713 --> 00:46:38,387
But I didn't know
what I didn't know, right?
1105
00:46:38,387 --> 00:46:43,356
I still don't know
what is in that report,
1106
00:46:43,356 --> 00:46:45,025
and so I had to respect that.
1107
00:46:45,025 --> 00:46:51,120
♪ ♪
1108
00:46:52,415 --> 00:46:53,834
LIZ: According to
court records,
1109
00:46:53,834 --> 00:46:55,838
Britney's conservators
are able to control
1110
00:46:55,838 --> 00:46:57,467
who can and cannot visit her,
1111
00:46:57,467 --> 00:47:00,640
and retain security guards
for her 24 hours a day.
1112
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,435
They have the power
to access her medical records
1113
00:47:02,435 --> 00:47:04,481
and communicate
with her doctors.
1114
00:47:04,481 --> 00:47:06,025
They can take control
of her house
1115
00:47:06,025 --> 00:47:08,447
and even cancel
her credit cards.
1116
00:47:08,447 --> 00:47:11,285
They can make recording,
touring, and TV deals for her,
1117
00:47:11,285 --> 00:47:14,125
and are deeply involved
in her finances.
1118
00:47:14,125 --> 00:47:15,962
There's some speculation
that Britney
1119
00:47:15,962 --> 00:47:18,299
may have basically accepted
the conservatorship
1120
00:47:18,299 --> 00:47:20,888
because she was worried
about seeing her kids.
1121
00:47:20,888 --> 00:47:22,266
And a few weeks later,
1122
00:47:22,266 --> 00:47:24,438
she starts to get some
visitation rights restored.
1123
00:47:24,438 --> 00:47:26,650
[dramatic music]
1124
00:47:26,650 --> 00:47:29,990
VIVIAN: If there is
a conservatorship proceeding,
1125
00:47:29,990 --> 00:47:33,497
and the proposed conservatee
at some point consents,
1126
00:47:33,497 --> 00:47:35,793
the conservatee can't wake up
one morning and say,
1127
00:47:35,793 --> 00:47:37,505
"I don't need this.
I don't want it.
1128
00:47:37,505 --> 00:47:38,758
Make it go away."
1129
00:47:38,758 --> 00:47:40,302
A petition would have
to be filed,
1130
00:47:40,302 --> 00:47:42,599
a petition to terminate
the conservatorship,
1131
00:47:42,599 --> 00:47:45,354
and then there's
gotta be evidence
1132
00:47:45,354 --> 00:47:48,318
or some demonstration
that a conservatorship
1133
00:47:48,318 --> 00:47:50,740
is not necessary
at that point in time.
1134
00:47:50,740 --> 00:47:53,996
It's the conservatee
who has the burden of saying,
1135
00:47:53,996 --> 00:47:56,835
"I don't need a conservatorship
anymore, and here's why."
1136
00:47:56,835 --> 00:47:58,672
INTERVIEWER: Have you ever
known anyone
1137
00:47:58,672 --> 00:48:01,678
who has terminated
a conservatorship?
1138
00:48:01,678 --> 00:48:04,684
‐ Of the cases that
I've been involved in, um,
1139
00:48:04,684 --> 00:48:07,189
I have not seen a conservatee
1140
00:48:07,189 --> 00:48:09,986
who has successfully terminated
a conservatorship.
1141
00:48:09,986 --> 00:48:14,913
♪ ♪
1142
00:48:20,925 --> 00:48:22,219
JAMIE: Give my baby
some cheese grits.
1143
00:48:22,219 --> 00:48:23,556
She's been eating them
since she was born.
1144
00:48:23,556 --> 00:48:24,891
For Southern girls,
1145
00:48:24,891 --> 00:48:28,524
the breakfast of champions
is cheese grits.
1146
00:48:28,524 --> 00:48:31,195
[soft tense music]
1147
00:48:31,195 --> 00:48:33,409
LIZ: In the first year
of the conservatorship,
1148
00:48:33,409 --> 00:48:35,329
Britney's team grants
MTV access
1149
00:48:35,329 --> 00:48:38,460
to do a documentary called
"Britney: For the Record."
1150
00:48:38,460 --> 00:48:41,967
‐ Hope I got enough
cheese and butter in it.
1151
00:48:41,967 --> 00:48:43,721
‐ I'm good.
‐ Good‐‐all right.
1152
00:48:43,721 --> 00:48:45,558
LIZ: For the first time,
we get a real peek
1153
00:48:45,558 --> 00:48:48,355
of the dynamic
between Britney and Jamie,
1154
00:48:48,355 --> 00:48:50,818
who had just come along
as her conservator.
1155
00:48:50,818 --> 00:48:52,697
‐ This is my dad.
1156
00:48:52,697 --> 00:48:54,618
"Britney Jean, sit down there,
right there.
1157
00:48:54,618 --> 00:48:56,914
"She don't listen to me.
I scream at her,
1158
00:48:56,914 --> 00:48:58,375
"and she gets on me
about screaming at her,
1159
00:48:58,375 --> 00:48:59,753
"but I can't do it‐‐
now, you're just gonna
1160
00:48:59,753 --> 00:49:02,425
have to talk
some [bleep] sense into her."
1161
00:49:02,425 --> 00:49:04,596
‐ Give me that phone, I'll hold
that damn phone for you.
1162
00:49:04,596 --> 00:49:06,892
‐ No, Daddy.
1163
00:49:06,892 --> 00:49:08,729
‐ Oh, [bleep].
1164
00:49:08,729 --> 00:49:10,983
LIZ: And the topic of
the conservatorship comes up
1165
00:49:10,983 --> 00:49:12,612
while they're
filming the documentary,
1166
00:49:12,612 --> 00:49:14,156
and it's one of
the only glimpses
1167
00:49:14,156 --> 00:49:16,954
that anyone has of how
she really feels about it.
1168
00:49:16,954 --> 00:49:18,289
‐ If I wasn't under
the restraints
1169
00:49:18,289 --> 00:49:19,876
that I'm under right now,
you know,
1170
00:49:19,876 --> 00:49:23,132
with all the lawyers
and doctors and people
1171
00:49:23,132 --> 00:49:26,180
analyzing me every day
and all that kind of stuff,
1172
00:49:26,180 --> 00:49:28,101
like, if that wasn't there,
1173
00:49:28,101 --> 00:49:32,234
I'd feel so liberated
and feel like myself.
1174
00:49:32,234 --> 00:49:34,906
When I tell them the way
I feel, it's like they hear me,
1175
00:49:34,906 --> 00:49:37,704
but they're really
not listening.
1176
00:49:37,704 --> 00:49:39,290
They're hearing
what they wanna hear.
1177
00:49:39,290 --> 00:49:41,545
They're not really listening
to what I'm telling them.
1178
00:49:41,545 --> 00:49:45,594
It's like‐‐it's bad.
1179
00:49:45,594 --> 00:49:48,600
[plaintive music]
1180
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:53,736
♪ ♪
1181
00:49:53,736 --> 00:49:56,825
[quietly]
And I'm sad.
1182
00:49:56,825 --> 00:50:00,791
LIZ: Almost immediately,
Britney goes back to work.
1183
00:50:00,791 --> 00:50:03,505
Within two months, she's
guest‐starring on network TV.
1184
00:50:03,505 --> 00:50:06,428
‐ "The personal library
of Ted Mosby," that's you.
1185
00:50:06,428 --> 00:50:07,972
‐ And by the end of 2008,
1186
00:50:07,972 --> 00:50:10,018
she has recorded
and released an album,
1187
00:50:10,018 --> 00:50:11,938
and is preparing
to go on a tour.
1188
00:50:11,938 --> 00:50:14,318
ALL: ♪ In the center of
the ring, just like a circus ♪
1189
00:50:14,318 --> 00:50:16,490
♪ When I crack that whip,
everybody gonna trip ♪
1190
00:50:16,490 --> 00:50:17,992
♪ Just like a circus ♪
1191
00:50:17,992 --> 00:50:19,954
ANNOUNCER: She seems to be
on this terrific path.
1192
00:50:19,954 --> 00:50:21,958
I think a lot of it has
to do with the conservatorship
1193
00:50:21,958 --> 00:50:23,504
that her father
took control of.
1194
00:50:23,504 --> 00:50:27,010
ANNOUNCER: Finally got
a wholesome, good brand again.
1195
00:50:27,010 --> 00:50:28,972
‐ Yeah, Britney!
ALL: Whoo!
1196
00:50:28,972 --> 00:50:33,524
‐ Once the conservatorship
started, my role changed.
1197
00:50:33,524 --> 00:50:35,820
We're gonna walk around
this way toward the stage,
1198
00:50:35,820 --> 00:50:38,826
so if you see your section,
just show them your ticket.
1199
00:50:38,826 --> 00:50:42,124
My new job,
I gave backstage tours.
1200
00:50:42,124 --> 00:50:44,838
When I went back, it was a
different business management,
1201
00:50:44,838 --> 00:50:50,014
and her dad was involved,
and so they did not hire me.
1202
00:50:50,014 --> 00:50:51,643
The touring company hired me.
1203
00:50:51,643 --> 00:50:56,152
I don't know why the Britney
company did not hire me.
1204
00:50:56,152 --> 00:50:59,199
All I know is that maybe
they just didn't know
1205
00:50:59,199 --> 00:51:01,036
the role I had played earlier.
1206
00:51:01,036 --> 00:51:02,915
PAPARAZZO: Felicia, just so
people will believe me,
1207
00:51:02,915 --> 00:51:05,170
what is your relationship
with Britney?
1208
00:51:05,170 --> 00:51:08,176
‐ I'm a business assistant.
1209
00:51:08,176 --> 00:51:10,931
So I took a back seat
and simply did
1210
00:51:10,931 --> 00:51:12,351
what I was hired to do.
1211
00:51:12,351 --> 00:51:14,564
PAPARAZZO: Bye, Felicia.
1212
00:51:14,564 --> 00:51:16,066
FELICIA: I don't really know
what went on.
1213
00:51:16,066 --> 00:51:19,239
I just don't know
that they knew her well enough
1214
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:24,082
to realize her capabilities
in making the decisions.
1215
00:51:24,082 --> 00:51:27,005
Just me looking in,
that's what I saw.
1216
00:51:27,005 --> 00:51:30,554
‐ Britney Spears
has made her comeback 100%.
1217
00:51:30,554 --> 00:51:32,182
‐ It's Britney, bitch.
1218
00:51:32,182 --> 00:51:34,186
‐ Go and see the concert!
It's amazing.
1219
00:51:34,186 --> 00:51:36,983
LIZ: Over the next few years,
Britney's really busy.
1220
00:51:36,983 --> 00:51:38,403
‐ And the People's Choice
1221
00:51:38,403 --> 00:51:41,326
for favorite pop artist
goes to‐‐
1222
00:51:41,326 --> 00:51:44,081
‐ It's Britney Spears!
‐ Britney Spears!
1223
00:51:44,081 --> 00:51:46,711
‐ Thank you so much.
I wasn't expecting this.
1224
00:51:46,711 --> 00:51:48,089
‐ She's doing a lot.
1225
00:51:48,089 --> 00:51:52,431
BOTH: ♪ Oops, I did it again
with my heart ♪
1226
00:51:52,431 --> 00:51:54,268
‐ Ladies and gentlemen,
Britney Spears.
1227
00:51:54,268 --> 00:51:55,854
ANNOUNCER: Britney Spears'
comeback
1228
00:51:55,854 --> 00:51:57,900
is translating
to her checkbook.
1229
00:51:57,900 --> 00:51:59,278
‐ Hey, it's my show!
1230
00:51:59,278 --> 00:52:00,823
ANNOUNCER: Estimated earnings
1231
00:52:00,823 --> 00:52:02,743
over $58 million
in the past 12 months.
1232
00:52:02,743 --> 00:52:05,416
‐ I think that your performance
was incredibly special.
1233
00:52:05,416 --> 00:52:07,127
It was beautiful,
and your tone‐‐
1234
00:52:07,127 --> 00:52:08,589
I agree with Demi‐‐
1235
00:52:08,589 --> 00:52:10,759
you have such a soulful tone
for such a young age.
1236
00:52:10,759 --> 00:52:11,970
It was amazing.
1237
00:52:11,970 --> 00:52:13,432
‐ And then she does
a really big deal,
1238
00:52:13,432 --> 00:52:15,394
which is a residency
in Las Vegas.
1239
00:52:15,394 --> 00:52:17,314
[upbeat music playing]
1240
00:52:17,314 --> 00:52:19,234
♪ ♪
1241
00:52:19,234 --> 00:52:21,071
MAN: Who is it?
1242
00:52:21,071 --> 00:52:23,242
[laughter,
cheers, and applause]
1243
00:52:23,242 --> 00:52:24,954
‐ It's Britney, bitch.
1244
00:52:24,954 --> 00:52:27,960
What's up, Vegas?
1245
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,173
We should bring
someone up here.
1246
00:52:30,173 --> 00:52:33,137
Can you be my Prince Charming
tonight, please?
1247
00:52:33,137 --> 00:52:35,934
Thank you.
[both scream]
1248
00:52:35,934 --> 00:52:37,980
FELICIA: I'm telling you,
when she walked on that stage,
1249
00:52:37,980 --> 00:52:40,611
she never felt judged
on the stage.
1250
00:52:40,611 --> 00:52:42,490
People ate her up.
1251
00:52:42,490 --> 00:52:44,952
They were mouthing every word
that she sang.
1252
00:52:44,952 --> 00:52:47,040
Um, most people knew
every dance move.
1253
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:51,048
It was one of the‐‐one of
the high points in my life, um,
1254
00:52:51,048 --> 00:52:54,054
is seeing how much
she was loved.
1255
00:52:54,054 --> 00:52:57,812
ANNOUNCER: Originally raking
in around $310,000 per show,
1256
00:52:57,812 --> 00:52:59,649
they deposit close
to $1 million
1257
00:52:59,649 --> 00:53:03,657
in Brit's bank account
every week.
1258
00:53:03,657 --> 00:53:05,452
‐ Jamie Spears gets approved
by the court
1259
00:53:05,452 --> 00:53:08,333
to receive 1.5%
of the gross revenues
1260
00:53:08,333 --> 00:53:10,504
related to performances
and merchandise
1261
00:53:10,504 --> 00:53:12,341
related to the residency,
1262
00:53:12,341 --> 00:53:14,345
which was one of the most
popular Vegas shows
1263
00:53:14,345 --> 00:53:15,806
of all time.
1264
00:53:15,806 --> 00:53:19,981
JOE: She's living the life
of a busy pop singer,
1265
00:53:19,981 --> 00:53:25,701
and yet we're also being told
that she's at risk constantly.
1266
00:53:25,701 --> 00:53:27,997
The business of Britney Spears
have become
1267
00:53:27,997 --> 00:53:31,211
this very guarded universe,
1268
00:53:31,211 --> 00:53:34,176
and there was, you know, a very
small inner circle of people
1269
00:53:34,176 --> 00:53:36,639
who were able to interact
with her daily,
1270
00:53:36,639 --> 00:53:38,977
you know,
because of the conservatorship.
1271
00:53:38,977 --> 00:53:40,689
DAVE: And any time
there's that amount of money
1272
00:53:40,689 --> 00:53:43,194
to be made,
you have to question
1273
00:53:43,194 --> 00:53:46,534
the motives of everyone
close to that person,
1274
00:53:46,534 --> 00:53:50,208
especially if they are
putting her in a position
1275
00:53:50,208 --> 00:53:52,630
where she cannot
make decisions
1276
00:53:52,630 --> 00:53:54,299
without checking
with somebody.
1277
00:53:54,299 --> 00:53:55,969
‐ Choose your own destiny.
1278
00:53:55,969 --> 00:53:57,723
JOE: I've never interviewed
Britney Spears.
1279
00:53:57,723 --> 00:53:59,560
I would go so far
as to say anyone
1280
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,397
who has interviewed
Britney Spears,
1281
00:54:01,397 --> 00:54:03,860
at least in the last five,
ten years,
1282
00:54:03,860 --> 00:54:07,451
did so under very careful
watch from her handlers.
1283
00:54:14,047 --> 00:54:15,551
‐ Baby, what are you gonna be
when you grow up?
1284
00:54:15,551 --> 00:54:19,892
‐ I'm gonna be the president
of the dog states, yeah.
1285
00:54:19,892 --> 00:54:22,565
‐ This is my impression
of a Woody Woodpecker.
1286
00:54:22,565 --> 00:54:24,234
[breathy exhale]
1287
00:54:24,234 --> 00:54:27,240
[laughs as Woody Woodpecker]
1288
00:54:27,240 --> 00:54:28,743
[laughter]
1289
00:54:28,743 --> 00:54:30,372
[squeals]
1290
00:54:30,372 --> 00:54:31,749
LIZ: With the rise
of Instagram,
1291
00:54:31,749 --> 00:54:33,002
it's no longer the tabloids
1292
00:54:33,002 --> 00:54:34,922
who choose how
the world sees Britney.
1293
00:54:34,922 --> 00:54:38,888
ALL: ♪ Happy birthday to you ♪
1294
00:54:38,888 --> 00:54:40,601
BRITNEY: ♪ And many more,
your pants are torn ♪
1295
00:54:40,601 --> 00:54:44,024
♪ They're down your back,
get up off the floor ♪
1296
00:54:45,611 --> 00:54:47,280
LIZ: Britney can show us
parts of her life
1297
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:48,742
that she wants us to see.
1298
00:54:48,742 --> 00:54:51,706
‐ 360 in my room
all day long!
1299
00:54:51,706 --> 00:54:53,418
Ahh!
1300
00:54:54,670 --> 00:54:57,926
LIZ: But the conservatorship
is never really mentioned,
1301
00:54:57,926 --> 00:54:59,764
which makes some people wonder
if she's sending
1302
00:54:59,764 --> 00:55:02,101
coded messages
through her posts.
1303
00:55:03,062 --> 00:55:07,070
[pensive music]
1304
00:55:07,070 --> 00:55:08,823
‐ Britney's Instagram was
just something
1305
00:55:08,823 --> 00:55:10,452
that was
really fascinating to us.
1306
00:55:10,452 --> 00:55:11,954
You know, we would
share her posts
1307
00:55:11,954 --> 00:55:14,167
and just kind of wonder
what they were all about.
1308
00:55:14,167 --> 00:55:16,339
‐ And Babs was like,
1309
00:55:16,339 --> 00:55:18,343
"What if we did a podcast
where all we did
1310
00:55:18,343 --> 00:55:20,806
was over‐dissect
Britney's Instagram?"
1311
00:55:20,806 --> 00:55:23,268
BABS: Hello, everyone, and
welcome to "Britney's Gram."
1312
00:55:23,268 --> 00:55:25,440
BOTH: The happiest place
on the Internet.
1313
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,486
BABS: I am Babs Gray.
TESS: And I'm Tess Barker.
1314
00:55:27,486 --> 00:55:29,155
BABS: That's kind of
where we started noticing
1315
00:55:29,155 --> 00:55:31,284
more and more
these very cryptic things
1316
00:55:31,284 --> 00:55:34,458
she would post,
like a hole cut out in a wall,
1317
00:55:34,458 --> 00:55:37,798
and the caption is,
"There's always a way out,"
1318
00:55:37,798 --> 00:55:39,635
and it was just like,
God, like, what is this?
1319
00:55:39,635 --> 00:55:41,096
It almost seems kinda dark.
1320
00:55:41,096 --> 00:55:43,935
‐ Um, I'm a Sagittarius.
I'm very keen on freedom.
1321
00:55:43,935 --> 00:55:45,814
I love freedom.
I love independence.
1322
00:55:45,814 --> 00:55:49,447
‐ If you think that Britney
is calling out for help...
1323
00:55:53,580 --> 00:55:55,959
You'll find a reason
in those videos
1324
00:55:55,959 --> 00:55:58,088
that's proof that
she's calling out for help.
1325
00:55:58,088 --> 00:56:00,301
‐ My favorite Disney movie
is probably "Frozen"
1326
00:56:00,301 --> 00:56:03,182
just because I really like
the fact that the two sisters,
1327
00:56:03,182 --> 00:56:04,518
um, their relationship,
1328
00:56:04,518 --> 00:56:05,979
and then one goes off
and lives in a castle
1329
00:56:05,979 --> 00:56:07,983
just because
she can't deal anymore.
1330
00:56:07,983 --> 00:56:09,737
DAVE:
Everyone's interpretation
1331
00:56:09,737 --> 00:56:11,324
of what Britney
is putting forth
1332
00:56:11,324 --> 00:56:12,576
is something
that they are bringing
1333
00:56:12,576 --> 00:56:15,122
to those Instagram videos.
1334
00:56:15,122 --> 00:56:19,507
It's impossible to know her
so we never knew her.
1335
00:56:19,507 --> 00:56:21,344
We know her even less now.
1336
00:56:21,344 --> 00:56:24,057
She is‐‐she is
kind of unknowable.
1337
00:56:27,021 --> 00:56:29,527
TESS: This is episode 50.
BABS: Oh, my God.
1338
00:56:29,527 --> 00:56:31,906
Naturally, since it was
a Britney Spears podcast,
1339
00:56:31,906 --> 00:56:34,160
we would look at any news
involving her,
1340
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:37,083
and we saw that her
co‐conservator, Andrew Wallet,
1341
00:56:37,083 --> 00:56:40,841
was petitioning
for a raise from the court.
1342
00:56:40,841 --> 00:56:42,636
This is what it read.
1343
00:56:44,305 --> 00:56:45,934
"Conservatee's
business activities
1344
00:56:45,934 --> 00:56:49,315
"have greatly accelerated
due to her increased wellbeing
1345
00:56:49,315 --> 00:56:51,152
"and her capacity
to be more engaged
1346
00:56:51,152 --> 00:56:53,240
"in furthering
her career activities.
1347
00:56:53,240 --> 00:56:55,704
"The next several years
promise to be very lucrative
1348
00:56:55,704 --> 00:56:57,541
"for the conservatorship
estate.
1349
00:56:57,541 --> 00:56:59,294
"This conservatorship
should be viewed more
1350
00:56:59,294 --> 00:57:01,507
as a hybrid business model,"
1351
00:57:01,507 --> 00:57:04,053
which I think is probably
the first time
1352
00:57:04,053 --> 00:57:06,642
that's ever been said
about a conservatorship.
1353
00:57:06,642 --> 00:57:08,145
‐ And‐‐and that
the conservatorship,
1354
00:57:08,145 --> 00:57:10,984
which really is put in place
to take care of people‐‐
1355
00:57:10,984 --> 00:57:12,404
BABS: Naturally shouldn't
be a business
1356
00:57:12,404 --> 00:57:14,408
that is making exorbitant
amounts of money
1357
00:57:14,408 --> 00:57:16,746
from someone who is
so fit to work.
1358
00:57:16,746 --> 00:57:17,915
[dramatic musical sting]
1359
00:57:17,915 --> 00:57:19,376
KALEN: Hello, world.
1360
00:57:19,376 --> 00:57:22,048
We are live in Las Vegas
1361
00:57:22,048 --> 00:57:25,555
for an announcement that is
about to shake the table.
1362
00:57:25,555 --> 00:57:27,601
Y'all excited?
[all cheer]
1363
00:57:27,601 --> 00:57:29,480
DAVE:
So she was gonna announce
1364
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,442
the Domination residency,
1365
00:57:31,442 --> 00:57:33,153
a brand‐new theater
on a brand‐new stage.
1366
00:57:33,153 --> 00:57:35,115
It was gonna be, like,
a year long, maybe more.
1367
00:57:35,115 --> 00:57:37,203
KALEN: She's coming.
It's about to happen.
1368
00:57:37,203 --> 00:57:38,748
‐ She was gonna, like,
do a performance
1369
00:57:38,748 --> 00:57:41,211
and then go down
and do an interview.
1370
00:57:41,211 --> 00:57:43,549
It's live streaming.
It's up on YouTube.
1371
00:57:43,549 --> 00:57:45,387
KALEN: I wish I knew
some of that Britney choreo,
1372
00:57:45,387 --> 00:57:47,724
but she‐‐she a lot
better dancer than me.
1373
00:57:47,724 --> 00:57:50,270
DAVE: Then it's like,
the lights go down.
1374
00:57:50,270 --> 00:57:51,732
MARIO: All right, everyone.
1375
00:57:51,732 --> 00:57:55,782
We are here to welcome
the new queen of Vegas.
1376
00:57:55,782 --> 00:57:58,788
["Till the World Ends" playing]
1377
00:57:58,788 --> 00:58:02,754
♪ ♪
1378
00:58:02,754 --> 00:58:05,427
Ladies and gentlemen,
Britney Spears!
1379
00:58:05,427 --> 00:58:06,804
[crowd cheering]
1380
00:58:06,804 --> 00:58:09,727
DAVE: And she walks down
1381
00:58:09,727 --> 00:58:11,229
and then passes the stage
1382
00:58:11,229 --> 00:58:12,899
where the performance
is gonna be,
1383
00:58:12,899 --> 00:58:16,031
keeps walking, keeps walking.
1384
00:58:16,031 --> 00:58:17,367
TESS: Doesn't say anything
on stage,
1385
00:58:17,367 --> 00:58:19,120
doesn't give any interviews
with reporters,
1386
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:22,293
does not announce the residency
that she's there to announce.
1387
00:58:22,293 --> 00:58:23,629
DAVE: And it's like,
"Here she is.
1388
00:58:23,629 --> 00:58:27,136
Oh, there she goes.
Oh, she's not gonna‐‐and‐‐
1389
00:58:27,136 --> 00:58:28,639
and there
she goes in her limousine."
1390
00:58:28,639 --> 00:58:30,142
REPORTER: That's it?
This‐‐we've been waiting
1391
00:58:30,142 --> 00:58:32,021
for this live stream.
She just walked right by?
1392
00:58:32,021 --> 00:58:33,524
REPORTER:
And she's just walking by.
1393
00:58:43,503 --> 00:58:44,963
LIZ:
I think up until this point
1394
00:58:44,963 --> 00:58:47,344
Britney had seemed
like a good little soldier
1395
00:58:47,344 --> 00:58:49,765
where she was happy
to go out and perform,
1396
00:58:49,765 --> 00:58:52,103
but the abrupt cancelation
of the second Vegas show
1397
00:58:52,103 --> 00:58:53,606
felt like the beginning
1398
00:58:53,606 --> 00:58:55,693
of the end
of the fairy tale gloss
1399
00:58:55,693 --> 00:58:57,489
over the conservatorship.
1400
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,246
BABS: And then nothing,
disappears.
1401
00:59:01,246 --> 00:59:03,250
No‐‐no sign of her
on Instagram.
1402
00:59:03,250 --> 00:59:04,837
We're just like,
"Where the fuck is Britney?"
1403
00:59:04,837 --> 00:59:07,425
Welcome to "Britney's Gram."
1404
00:59:07,425 --> 00:59:09,680
BOTH: The happiest place
on the Internet!
1405
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:11,099
BABS: Currently
when we're recording this
1406
00:59:11,099 --> 00:59:13,354
day 17
of the Britney shutdown.
1407
00:59:13,354 --> 00:59:15,190
TESS: I'm still not at peace.
I'm anxious.
1408
00:59:15,190 --> 00:59:18,238
BABS: No! There's a‐‐
And then, out of nowhere,
1409
00:59:18,238 --> 00:59:20,200
Andrew Wallet quits.
1410
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,831
This guy just asked
for a raise‐‐why would he‐‐
1411
00:59:22,831 --> 00:59:24,501
‐ And had been the conservator
since the onset
1412
00:59:24,501 --> 00:59:26,045
of the conservatorship.
‐ Like, what?
1413
00:59:26,045 --> 00:59:27,757
Something is going on
behind the scenes here.
1414
00:59:35,272 --> 00:59:38,404
[tense music]
1415
00:59:38,404 --> 00:59:42,662
♪ ♪
1416
00:59:42,662 --> 00:59:44,374
BABS: Finally the Instagram,
1417
00:59:44,374 --> 00:59:46,921
which had been dark,
there's a meme.
1418
00:59:48,549 --> 00:59:50,052
The caption says,
1419
00:59:50,052 --> 00:59:52,849
"We all need to take time
for a little 'me time,'"
1420
00:59:52,849 --> 00:59:56,899
and there was a smiley face,
an emoticon, not an emoji,
1421
00:59:56,899 --> 00:59:58,068
which we noted
because we're like,
1422
00:59:58,068 --> 01:00:00,072
"Britney always uses emoji."
1423
01:00:00,072 --> 01:00:01,992
And it just seemed off
immediately,
1424
01:00:01,992 --> 01:00:05,082
and the news breaks that‐‐
1425
01:00:05,082 --> 01:00:06,585
REPORTER:
TMZ is reporting that Spears
1426
01:00:06,585 --> 01:00:07,921
voluntarily checked herself
1427
01:00:07,921 --> 01:00:10,385
into a residential
mental health facility
1428
01:00:10,385 --> 01:00:11,804
about a week ago.
1429
01:00:11,804 --> 01:00:13,599
‐ We talked about all our
suspicions with whether or not
1430
01:00:13,599 --> 01:00:16,271
she had actually elected to
go on into the facility herself
1431
01:00:16,271 --> 01:00:18,066
and whether she'd been there
for a lot longer.
1432
01:00:18,066 --> 01:00:21,155
‐ And the next day
we get a voicemail.
1433
01:00:21,155 --> 01:00:22,450
PERSON: Hi, there.
1434
01:00:22,450 --> 01:00:26,709
Um, I cannot disclose
who I am.
1435
01:00:29,548 --> 01:00:32,762
I used to be a paralegal
for an attorney
1436
01:00:32,762 --> 01:00:34,599
that worked with
Britney's conservatorship.
1437
01:00:34,599 --> 01:00:35,977
I am no longer with them.
1438
01:00:35,977 --> 01:00:37,271
‐ It just brought to light
1439
01:00:37,271 --> 01:00:38,733
a lot of the things
that we had suspected.
1440
01:00:38,733 --> 01:00:41,989
PERSON: Britney has been
in the mental facility
1441
01:00:41,989 --> 01:00:43,451
since mid‐January.
1442
01:00:43,451 --> 01:00:44,953
Of course,
I‐I'm just a paralegal.
1443
01:00:44,953 --> 01:00:46,623
I haven't had
any contact with her,
1444
01:00:46,623 --> 01:00:48,753
but, um,
from what I understand,
1445
01:00:48,753 --> 01:00:53,303
this was, uh...
not a decision she made.
1446
01:00:53,303 --> 01:00:56,142
‐ We felt that this information
should probably be shared.
1447
01:00:56,142 --> 01:00:57,479
We don't know
what the next step is
1448
01:00:57,479 --> 01:00:58,731
as far as getting her out.
1449
01:00:58,731 --> 01:01:00,150
That's what we have
to figure out.
1450
01:01:00,150 --> 01:01:01,945
You know, she's been put away.
1451
01:01:01,945 --> 01:01:03,324
Let's get her out.
Free Britney.
1452
01:01:03,324 --> 01:01:04,493
TESS: Free Britney.
We love you, Britney.
1453
01:01:04,493 --> 01:01:06,287
BABS: Bye.
TESS: Bye.
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01:01:17,101 --> 01:01:18,729
‐ A popular Britney fan podcast
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01:01:18,729 --> 01:01:21,109
aired a special emergency
episode after receiving...
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01:01:21,109 --> 01:01:23,697
‐ So we released the podcast
on a Monday night,
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01:01:23,697 --> 01:01:25,618
and by Tuesday morning
it was everywhere.
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NEWS ANCHOR:
Social media is erupting
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01:01:27,330 --> 01:01:30,168
in Britney Spears hysteria.
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01:01:30,168 --> 01:01:31,505
‐ I love that shirt.
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01:01:31,505 --> 01:01:34,051
Eve's got that shirt, uh!
[cheers and applause]
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01:01:34,051 --> 01:01:35,888
JUNIOR: I still remember
the exact moment
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01:01:35,888 --> 01:01:37,517
the voicemail dropped
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01:01:37,517 --> 01:01:41,400
and the feeling I had of,
"Oh, my God, it makes sense."
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01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,988
It clicked.
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01:01:43,988 --> 01:01:45,741
I knew then
it was time to jump.
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01:01:45,741 --> 01:01:47,202
We gathered a few fans.
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01:01:47,202 --> 01:01:50,334
It wasn't much, maybe 10, 15.
Pick a spot.
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01:01:50,334 --> 01:01:52,464
What do we want?
ALL: Free Britney!
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01:01:52,464 --> 01:01:53,632
JUNIOR: When do we want it?
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01:01:53,632 --> 01:01:55,177
ALL: Now!
JUNIOR: I was nervous.
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01:01:55,177 --> 01:01:57,014
Are people gonna think
we're crazy?
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01:01:57,014 --> 01:01:58,851
Are they gonna
take us seriously?
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01:01:58,851 --> 01:02:01,356
Are we gonna look like a joke?
[cars honking]
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But my heart said,
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01:02:04,111 --> 01:02:05,990
"No matter what,
you're taking your butt there,
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01:02:05,990 --> 01:02:08,286
and you're gonna help her just
the way she has helped you."
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01:02:08,286 --> 01:02:12,044
ALL: End conservatorship abuse.
End conservatorship abuse.
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‐ We think that, you know,
the conservatorship
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she's been under seems unjust.
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‐ You know, it was effective
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01:02:18,181 --> 01:02:20,018
because we brought attention
to the media.
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01:02:20,018 --> 01:02:22,565
‐ A #FreeBritney movement
is behind me.
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01:02:22,565 --> 01:02:23,734
PERSON: Dear Britney.
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01:02:23,734 --> 01:02:25,195
‐ Dear Britney.
‐ Dear Britney.
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01:02:25,195 --> 01:02:26,532
‐ We grew, and we grew,
and we grew, and we grew.
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01:02:26,532 --> 01:02:28,661
‐ I support you.
I stand by you.
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01:02:28,661 --> 01:02:29,829
‐ Britney Spears
needs our help.
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‐ Why is it so hard
to get out of?
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01:02:30,998 --> 01:02:32,000
Why is she still in it?
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01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:33,420
‐ This is Rose McGowan
saying
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01:02:33,420 --> 01:02:34,714
free Britney.
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01:02:34,714 --> 01:02:37,720
‐ Free Britney!
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01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:39,933
[person squeals, crowd cheers]
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LIZ: The Free Britney movement
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01:02:42,438 --> 01:02:44,859
runs from the innocuous
to the extreme.
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01:02:44,859 --> 01:02:46,446
REPORTER: Britney Spears'
father, Jamie,
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01:02:46,446 --> 01:02:49,034
speaking out against
the viral campaign.
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01:02:49,034 --> 01:02:51,707
‐ Jamie tells "Page Six"
that the movement is a joke.
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01:02:51,707 --> 01:02:53,377
REPORTER: "All
these conspiracy theorists
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01:02:53,377 --> 01:02:54,754
"don't know anything.
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01:02:54,754 --> 01:02:56,425
"It's up to the court
of California
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to decide what's best
for my daughter."
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01:02:59,096 --> 01:03:00,433
LEANNE: Yeah, you hear enough
of that,
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01:03:00,433 --> 01:03:01,893
and you do start to question.
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01:03:01,893 --> 01:03:03,439
Like, I don't‐‐
maybe I'm delusional.
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01:03:03,439 --> 01:03:04,816
Maybe I don't know.
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01:03:04,816 --> 01:03:07,447
I should just listen
to the people who "know" her.
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01:03:07,447 --> 01:03:09,784
But then when you‐‐you start
to connect the dots
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01:03:09,784 --> 01:03:11,078
and you start to talk
to other people
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01:03:11,078 --> 01:03:12,832
who have the exact
same thoughts,
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01:03:12,832 --> 01:03:14,377
that this isn't right.
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01:03:14,377 --> 01:03:17,090
INTERVIEWER: You ever question,
like, what if you're wrong?
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01:03:17,090 --> 01:03:19,219
‐ If I'm wrong and one day
Britney does come out
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01:03:19,219 --> 01:03:20,723
and tells us that we're wrong
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01:03:20,723 --> 01:03:23,354
and leave her alone,
we will do just that.
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01:03:25,650 --> 01:03:27,235
JOE: At this point,
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01:03:27,235 --> 01:03:28,947
things in
the conservatorship world
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01:03:28,947 --> 01:03:30,283
start to change,
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01:03:30,283 --> 01:03:32,245
and you start to hear
these tabloid reports
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01:03:32,245 --> 01:03:34,459
that Britney and her father
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01:03:34,459 --> 01:03:36,755
are no longer on good terms
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01:03:36,755 --> 01:03:39,511
and that at a certain point
Kevin Federline
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01:03:39,511 --> 01:03:43,017
takes out a restraining order
against Jamie Spears,
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01:03:43,017 --> 01:03:45,981
claiming that he had
a physical altercation
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01:03:45,981 --> 01:03:48,821
with one of
Britney's young sons.
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Then you start to have
all these machinations
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behind the scenes
that seem to change
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01:04:01,888 --> 01:04:04,561
not only the shape
of what the conservatorship is
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01:04:04,561 --> 01:04:07,232
but the dynamics
within the family
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01:04:07,232 --> 01:04:09,571
and within the business
of Britney Spears.
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01:04:09,571 --> 01:04:10,823
‐ In the wake of her recent
health troubles,
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Spears' mom is now requesting
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to be involved
in her medical decisions.
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01:04:13,996 --> 01:04:15,499
NEWS ANCHOR: Her mother,
telling the court
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she just wants to have a voice
in her daughter's life.
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01:04:23,766 --> 01:04:26,020
‐ Like, what does
"Free Britney" mean
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01:04:26,020 --> 01:04:27,189
from your understanding?
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01:04:27,189 --> 01:04:29,318
‐ That I don't quite know,
like,
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01:04:29,318 --> 01:04:32,073
what their‐‐what
their meaning is, you know?
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01:04:32,073 --> 01:04:34,496
I don't know, maybe she's
being confined or something
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01:04:34,496 --> 01:04:36,833
or held against her will
in some capacity.
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01:04:36,833 --> 01:04:38,796
‐ Do‐‐have you ever seen
anything
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01:04:38,796 --> 01:04:40,131
that led you to be concerned
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01:04:40,131 --> 01:04:42,219
that your sister was being held
against her will?
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01:04:43,847 --> 01:04:46,394
‐ Uh, every day.
The‐‐no, I'm joking.
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01:04:46,394 --> 01:04:48,649
I mean, like,
wo‐‐the women in this family
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01:04:48,649 --> 01:04:52,239
are very, very strong‐minded
and have their own opinion,
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01:04:52,239 --> 01:04:54,076
and they wanna do
what they wanna do,
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01:04:54,076 --> 01:04:57,082
and as much as I admire
that as a guy, being,
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01:04:57,082 --> 01:05:00,296
like, one of two guys
in this entire family,
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01:05:00,296 --> 01:05:01,716
it kinda sucks, man.
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01:05:01,716 --> 01:05:03,052
‐ They're strong‐minded.
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01:05:03,052 --> 01:05:05,474
They want to do
what they want to do.
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01:05:05,474 --> 01:05:07,812
Kinda constitutional, you know?
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01:05:07,812 --> 01:05:10,818
‐ I mean, yeah, and they have
a right to do that, you know?
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01:05:15,327 --> 01:05:16,788
I mean, she's been
in this thing
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01:05:16,788 --> 01:05:18,458
for quite some time now.
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01:05:18,458 --> 01:05:20,880
Obviously there was a need
for it in the beginning,
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01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:23,050
and now they‐‐you know,
they've made some changes,
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01:05:23,050 --> 01:05:25,806
and, you know, all we can do
is kinda hope for the best.
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01:05:25,806 --> 01:05:27,183
‐ Right, you had to have
asked her about it.
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01:05:27,183 --> 01:05:29,981
‐ I mean‐‐I mean, she's always
wanted to get out of it.
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01:05:29,981 --> 01:05:34,031
What level of that
is the reality, who knows?
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01:05:41,922 --> 01:05:43,759
CROWD: The conservatorship
has got to go.
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01:05:43,759 --> 01:05:46,263
Hey, hey, ho, ho,
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01:05:46,263 --> 01:05:47,808
the conservatorship
has got to go.
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01:05:47,808 --> 01:05:49,102
Hey, hey.
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01:05:49,102 --> 01:05:50,229
LIZ: Britney's case, I think,
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01:05:50,229 --> 01:05:52,108
has brought a lot of scrutiny
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01:05:52,108 --> 01:05:54,279
to the conservatorship system
in general.
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01:05:54,279 --> 01:05:55,950
ALL:
End conservatorship of youth.
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01:05:55,950 --> 01:05:58,245
LIZ: Flaws in Britney's case
could reveal flaws
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01:05:58,245 --> 01:06:00,584
in the bigger
conservatorship system.
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01:06:00,584 --> 01:06:02,087
‐ Free Britney!
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01:06:02,087 --> 01:06:05,259
‐ And it's now, very recently,
in August 2020 that, like,
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01:06:05,259 --> 01:06:07,765
for the first time
ever in the entire 12 years
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01:06:07,765 --> 01:06:10,186
the conservatorship
has been in effect,
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01:06:10,186 --> 01:06:11,856
Britney appears to be
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publicly signaling
that she wants changes.
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01:06:14,779 --> 01:06:18,453
‐ Britney, with the help
of her lawyer, Sam Ingham,
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01:06:18,453 --> 01:06:22,628
indicates
that she would like a bank
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01:06:22,628 --> 01:06:26,594
to become the overseer
of her estate.
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01:06:26,594 --> 01:06:28,222
The other thing that I think
we're seeing
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01:06:28,222 --> 01:06:29,434
for the first time
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01:06:29,434 --> 01:06:31,646
is that
she's sort of acknowledging
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01:06:31,646 --> 01:06:35,696
the outside phenomenon
of Britney Spears fans
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01:06:35,696 --> 01:06:37,491
coming out against
the conservatorship.
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01:06:37,491 --> 01:06:39,328
"At this point in her life,
Britney welcomes
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01:06:39,328 --> 01:06:42,334
"and appreciates the informed
support of her many fans.
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01:06:42,334 --> 01:06:45,089
"Britney herself is vehemently
opposed to this effort
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01:06:45,089 --> 01:06:47,260
"by her father
to keep her legal struggle
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01:06:47,260 --> 01:06:50,976
"hidden away in the closet
as a family secret.
1594
01:06:50,976 --> 01:06:54,107
"In this case, it is not
an exaggeration to say
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01:06:54,107 --> 01:06:56,946
that the whole world
is watching."
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01:06:56,946 --> 01:06:59,494
This is a huge pivot.
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01:06:59,494 --> 01:07:03,668
‐ The document in which Britney
basically supports the movement
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01:07:03,668 --> 01:07:07,426
and says that she‐‐
appreciative of our support,
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01:07:07,426 --> 01:07:09,972
our "informed support,"
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01:07:09,972 --> 01:07:11,601
'cause we've done
our research.
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01:07:11,601 --> 01:07:14,022
And in the document,
it mentioned
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01:07:14,022 --> 01:07:16,611
that they‐‐they thought
it could be a battle,
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01:07:16,611 --> 01:07:20,953
a struggle to remove Jamie
as conservator of her estate
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01:07:20,953 --> 01:07:25,754
and that that's kind of
what it's shaping up to be.
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01:07:28,343 --> 01:07:30,514
PARIS: I love her so much,
and I just‐‐
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01:07:30,514 --> 01:07:31,850
I feel that
if you're an adult,
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01:07:31,850 --> 01:07:34,187
you should be able
to live your life
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01:07:34,187 --> 01:07:36,484
and not be controlled,
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01:07:36,484 --> 01:07:37,987
and I think maybe that stems
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01:07:37,987 --> 01:07:39,322
from me being
controlled so much,
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01:07:39,322 --> 01:07:41,995
so I can understand
how that would feel.
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01:07:41,995 --> 01:07:43,373
PERSON: Let me point out
to you
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01:07:43,373 --> 01:07:45,544
a few things
about Jamie Spears, her dad.
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01:07:45,544 --> 01:07:47,255
His attitude from his attorney
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01:07:47,255 --> 01:07:50,094
is that this is in place
for a reason,
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01:07:50,094 --> 01:07:51,723
but she does have freedom.
1617
01:07:51,723 --> 01:07:53,393
She travels.
She does stuff.
1618
01:07:53,393 --> 01:07:56,231
It's not like
she's under lock and key.
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01:07:56,231 --> 01:07:57,568
ACTIVIST: When do we want it?
ALL: Now!
1620
01:07:57,568 --> 01:07:59,447
ACTIVIST: What do we want?
ALL: Free Britney!
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01:07:59,447 --> 01:08:01,868
‐ When do we want it?
ALL: Now!
1622
01:08:01,868 --> 01:08:04,080
LIZ: So on November 10th,
there's a court hearing,
1623
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:06,377
and attorneys for Britney,
for Jamie,
1624
01:08:06,377 --> 01:08:08,840
and for Lynne are all present,
and it's pretty rare
1625
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:11,053
in that the public
is allowed to be there as well.
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01:08:11,053 --> 01:08:12,723
LEANNE: There's such
a limited amount‐‐you know,
1627
01:08:12,723 --> 01:08:14,727
number of participants
that can join.
1628
01:08:14,727 --> 01:08:17,399
We will send in a couple people
to listen in,
1629
01:08:17,399 --> 01:08:19,236
and I will update.
I have a Google Doc,
1630
01:08:19,236 --> 01:08:20,989
and I'm taking, like,
feverish notes.
1631
01:08:20,989 --> 01:08:23,703
‐ Leanne and Megan are sharing
a Google note document.
1632
01:08:23,703 --> 01:08:25,332
‐ Oh, okay.
‐ So Leanne is taking notes,
1633
01:08:25,332 --> 01:08:26,584
and then Megan's reading,
1634
01:08:26,584 --> 01:08:28,212
the notes
off the Google document,
1635
01:08:28,212 --> 01:08:31,093
so that's how we're finding out
the information.
1636
01:08:31,093 --> 01:08:32,596
MEGAN: Hey, guys, it's Megan.
1637
01:08:32,596 --> 01:08:34,266
The judge has not made
any decisions yet,
1638
01:08:34,266 --> 01:08:35,852
but we did wanna
give you a quick update.
1639
01:08:35,852 --> 01:08:37,272
LIZ: For the first time
we're starting
1640
01:08:37,272 --> 01:08:39,234
to see Britney's lawyer
raise objections
1641
01:08:39,234 --> 01:08:42,073
to Jamie's management
of Britney's estate.
1642
01:08:42,073 --> 01:08:43,493
‐ James' attorneys were arguing
1643
01:08:43,493 --> 01:08:45,372
that there's not really
a conflict
1644
01:08:45,372 --> 01:08:47,292
between Britney and James,
1645
01:08:47,292 --> 01:08:51,091
but then Ingham came on
and said that that's not true
1646
01:08:51,091 --> 01:08:52,761
and that Britney
is afraid of her father
1647
01:08:52,761 --> 01:08:54,974
and that Britney has told him
on multiple occasions
1648
01:08:54,974 --> 01:08:56,436
that she is refusing to work
1649
01:08:56,436 --> 01:08:59,442
until he is no longer
managing her career.
1650
01:08:59,442 --> 01:09:02,071
[pensive music]
1651
01:09:02,071 --> 01:09:04,075
ACTIVIST: Oh.
MEGAN: Lynne came in.
1652
01:09:04,075 --> 01:09:05,620
Lynne's lawyers came in.
1653
01:09:05,620 --> 01:09:08,292
She wants no ill will,
told Jamie that, said,
1654
01:09:08,292 --> 01:09:11,632
"Lynne wants new sole
conservator of the estate.
1655
01:09:11,632 --> 01:09:13,260
"It is no secret
that the relationship
1656
01:09:13,260 --> 01:09:15,974
between Britney and James
has been contentious."
1657
01:09:15,974 --> 01:09:17,770
‐ Okay.
‐ "We are here for Britney.
1658
01:09:17,770 --> 01:09:20,107
"Lynne wants her daughter
to wake up tomorrow
1659
01:09:20,107 --> 01:09:21,652
and see brighter days."
1660
01:09:21,652 --> 01:09:24,074
ACTIVIST:
Fight for your daughter.
1661
01:09:24,074 --> 01:09:25,660
LIZ: Some people would argue
1662
01:09:25,660 --> 01:09:27,790
that there's a conflict
of interest at times
1663
01:09:27,790 --> 01:09:31,254
in the conservatorship system
because in Britney's case,
1664
01:09:31,254 --> 01:09:35,054
she is paying for almost
everyone on all sides,
1665
01:09:35,054 --> 01:09:38,102
so she's paying for not
only her own lawyer.
1666
01:09:38,102 --> 01:09:40,147
She's paying for
her conservators,
1667
01:09:40,147 --> 01:09:42,778
and she's paying
for her conservators' lawyers,
1668
01:09:42,778 --> 01:09:46,327
so do they always have
her best interest at heart?
1669
01:09:46,327 --> 01:09:48,665
‐ Judge is speaking.
‐ Judge is speaking.
1670
01:09:48,665 --> 01:09:50,544
‐ This is just in
from the judge.
1671
01:09:50,544 --> 01:09:53,508
She says, "I am not going
to be making an order
1672
01:09:53,508 --> 01:09:56,848
to dis‐‐to suspend
Mr. Spears today."
1673
01:09:56,848 --> 01:09:58,643
ACTIVIST: They're not gonna
suspend Jamie.
1674
01:09:58,643 --> 01:10:00,897
MEGAN: Today.
ACTIVIST: Today.
1675
01:10:00,897 --> 01:10:03,318
NEWS REPORTER: The singer lost
her latest court attempt
1676
01:10:03,318 --> 01:10:06,826
to strip her father of the
court‐appointed title he has.
1677
01:10:06,826 --> 01:10:08,830
NEWS REPORTER: The judge
ultimately declining to remove
1678
01:10:08,830 --> 01:10:11,419
Jamie Spears
as conservator at this time,
1679
01:10:11,419 --> 01:10:14,132
but Britney's choice of wealth
manager, Bessemer Trust,
1680
01:10:14,132 --> 01:10:15,969
was named
as the co‐conservator
1681
01:10:15,969 --> 01:10:18,349
of her $60 million estate,
1682
01:10:18,349 --> 01:10:20,520
a small victory
for Britney Spears.
1683
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:22,441
ALL: Free her! Free her!
Free her!
1684
01:10:22,441 --> 01:10:23,860
INTERVIEWER:
What does that mean?
1685
01:10:23,860 --> 01:10:25,864
LIZ: It means that
he has not stepped down.
1686
01:10:25,864 --> 01:10:28,620
Instead of stepping down,
Jamie has said,
1687
01:10:28,620 --> 01:10:29,955
"No, I've done a good job.
1688
01:10:29,955 --> 01:10:32,210
"I love my daughter a lot,
and actually,
1689
01:10:32,210 --> 01:10:34,715
it would harm Britney
if I were to step down."
1690
01:10:34,715 --> 01:10:37,971
The judge allowed Britney
to add on this bank
1691
01:10:37,971 --> 01:10:40,226
to be her co‐conservator
of her estate,
1692
01:10:40,226 --> 01:10:44,108
but the judge also ruled not
to remove Jamie at this point.
1693
01:10:44,108 --> 01:10:47,073
The judge left the door open
as to potentially remove
1694
01:10:47,073 --> 01:10:48,618
Jamie further down the road,
1695
01:10:48,618 --> 01:10:51,164
but at this point he's still
in charge of her money.
1696
01:10:58,262 --> 01:10:59,723
ADAM: What's really
interesting is that
1697
01:10:59,723 --> 01:11:01,894
Sam Ingham, the other day,
in court said,
1698
01:11:01,894 --> 01:11:04,400
"Britney's a high‐functioning
conservatee."
1699
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:06,696
I don't even know
what that means, right?
1700
01:11:06,696 --> 01:11:09,368
If she's functioning enough
to say, "Hey, I don't want
1701
01:11:09,368 --> 01:11:11,037
"my father to be conservator.
1702
01:11:11,037 --> 01:11:14,420
I'm not gonna perform
if he is the conservator..."
1703
01:11:15,755 --> 01:11:18,218
Maybe she doesn't need
a conservatorship.
1704
01:11:18,218 --> 01:11:20,264
But the problem is, we don't
know what we don't know.
1705
01:11:22,936 --> 01:11:24,940
FELICIA: Okay, this is one of
my very favorite pictures.
1706
01:11:24,940 --> 01:11:27,571
It is one of the very
first pictures that we took
1707
01:11:27,571 --> 01:11:29,115
when we were in New York City,
1708
01:11:29,115 --> 01:11:32,873
and we wanted to have, um,
Times Square behind us.
1709
01:11:32,873 --> 01:11:36,046
First time in Times Square.
Oh.
1710
01:11:36,046 --> 01:11:38,509
‐ The image of Britney
that we were sold
1711
01:11:38,509 --> 01:11:40,388
when she first hit
the scene was this,
1712
01:11:40,388 --> 01:11:42,935
you know, perfect
all‐American girl next door,
1713
01:11:42,935 --> 01:11:47,611
but a lot of fans are,
you know, not that.
1714
01:11:47,611 --> 01:11:50,617
They were people like myself
who felt like
1715
01:11:50,617 --> 01:11:52,955
they didn't fit in,
and I think there was
1716
01:11:52,955 --> 01:11:56,337
some wanting to aspire
to that image.
1717
01:11:56,337 --> 01:11:59,969
‐ See, this is my first tour
on my very own.
1718
01:11:59,969 --> 01:12:04,436
KEVIN: We know now that
Britney wasn't perfect.
1719
01:12:04,436 --> 01:12:07,191
‐ Are you ready to party?
[cheers and applause]
1720
01:12:07,191 --> 01:12:08,987
KEVIN: Britney had to navigate
1721
01:12:08,987 --> 01:12:11,450
being told who she could be
and what she could do.
1722
01:12:11,450 --> 01:12:13,120
‐ Gonna wear what I wanna wear,
you know?
1723
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:14,957
You can't concern yourself
with everyone.
1724
01:12:14,957 --> 01:12:16,460
Otherwise you'll go crazy.
1725
01:12:16,460 --> 01:12:21,554
‐ I think that that story
of control and identity
1726
01:12:21,554 --> 01:12:23,641
really resonates.
1727
01:12:23,641 --> 01:12:26,772
FELICIA: This is‐‐okay,
this makes me very happy.
1728
01:12:26,772 --> 01:12:29,235
We went from Paris to London
1729
01:12:29,235 --> 01:12:31,657
underneath the water
on a train,
1730
01:12:31,657 --> 01:12:33,327
and we thought that was
about the coolest thing
1731
01:12:33,327 --> 01:12:34,955
we'd ever done.
1732
01:12:34,955 --> 01:12:37,919
I know at some point
she will tell her story.
1733
01:12:37,919 --> 01:12:41,927
I know she will,
and I am so grateful
1734
01:12:41,927 --> 01:12:44,349
for when that point comes
that she's able to sit down,
1735
01:12:44,349 --> 01:12:48,733
and, you know, everything
will fall into place.
1736
01:12:51,029 --> 01:12:53,200
BRITNEY: See the pink rose?
1737
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:55,622
See how beautiful that is?
1738
01:12:55,622 --> 01:12:57,166
Watch.
1739
01:13:00,799 --> 01:13:03,011
It's just soap.
1740
01:13:03,011 --> 01:13:06,059
That's all it is.
It's just soap.
1741
01:13:06,059 --> 01:13:09,148
It's not really a flower
at all.
1742
01:13:09,148 --> 01:13:11,362
It's just soap.
1743
01:13:11,362 --> 01:13:14,868
See?
Fooled ya.
1744
01:13:19,293 --> 01:13:22,299
[soft dramatic music]
1745
01:13:22,299 --> 01:13:29,313
♪ ♪
1746
01:13:43,718 --> 01:13:50,732
♪ ♪