ACTIVIST: What do we want? ALL: Free Britney!
ACTIVIST: When do we want it?
ALL: Now! ACTIVIST: What do we want?
ALL: Free Britney! ACTIVIST: When do we want it?
ALL: Now! ACTIVIST: What do we want?
‐ This is "Free Britney 102," where we explore issues
related to the Free Britney movement.
The Free Britney movement is advocating
for the end of Britney Spears' conservatorship.
‐ I need everyone who is scrolling right now
to stop and watch this video.
‐ Britney Spears needs our help.
Since 2008, she has been under something called
a legal conservatorship by her father.
ACTIVIST: Now, a conservatorship literally
gives someone else the control of your life.
They decide what you can and can't do,
and it's usually used for elderly people
who don't have the necessary brain function.
‐ But a functioning woman that's been working nonstop,
it just‐‐ it doesn't make any sense.
‐ Dear Britney, my name is Elizabeth Denon,
and I'm 29 years old.
‐ My name is James Miller,
and I'm from Baton Rouge, Louisiana.
‐ My name is Jasmine. I'm 28,
and I am a Scorpio from New Jersey.
‐ Dear Britney. ‐ Dear Britney.
‐ I'm so nervous.
I'm, like, sweating.
‐ Your whole situation is consuming me now.
I can't believe that it's just been this long
and I didn't know.
BRITNEY: When I first started, I didn't know
what I was doing, but every day you learn more,
and you gain more wisdom from that.
‐ Why is she still in this?
Why is her dad making all of her decisions?
BRITNEY: I am where I am today‐‐
it's because I do have control.
You know, you have to.
Otherwise you get sucked in by people.
‐ I have always viewed the situation as something that
I don't think would have ever happened to a man in America.
BRITNEY: Trust me, there are days that I have‐‐
I struggle with myself.
‐ I am familiar with the lawyers on the case.
They care deeply for Britney.
‐ I trust the system.
I believe the law is aimed
at actually protecting the conservatee.
BRITNEY: There are things out there that have been said
about me that aren't completely true.
‐ We stand up for you, Britney Spears,
and we won't stop until you reach freedom.
BRITNEY: There's a lot that people don't know about me
that I want them to know.
ACTIVIST: Growing up, I struggled with
anxiety and depression, and Britney Spears is the one
who made it okay to struggle with those things.
ACTIVIST: She gave me permission to be myself
growing up as a gay boy in suburban Virginia,
and Britney gave me the power to be who I am.
ACTIVIST: She even shaved her hair off.
Hey, I shaved my hair off too
because I didn't want nobody touching me.
And they still didn't get it.
LIZ: Britney is in the midst of a legal battle right now.
She's been in a conservatorship
for the past 12 years.
‐ Free Britney! ‐ Justice for Britney.
‐ There's been a lot of speculation as to whether
this is in Britney's best interests,
and is this good for her? Is this what she wants?
‐ All right, so today
we have a conservatorship hearing for Britney Spears.
Apparently, conservator of the estate is Jamie Spears.
ALL: Boo!
Jamie out! Jamie out!
LIZ: Her dad has been in charge of her money
for the last 12 years,
and a few months ago Britney's lawyer said
Britney wants someone else to be in charge of her money
and wants Jamie, her father, to step down.
Britney's father so far has refused to step down.
‐ But this time it just feels different.
I'm so excited.
‐ I feel‐‐ I feel really hopeful.
‐ Hey, guys, it's Megan.
The judge has not made any decisions yet,
but we did wanna give you a quick update.
Britney has told Ingham on multiple occasions
that she's scared of her father and that she refuses to work
until he is no longer in control of her career.
LIZ: To understand where Britney is now,
we should understand how she got here.
[objects thumping faintly]
‐ Okay.
These are letters to me from the fans.
So if I got this many, you can imagine‐‐
oh, the ones that Britney got would fill up the entire room,
would fill up the entire room.
[delicate music]
Yeah. Sorry.
[laughs]
That was pretty cool.
You know, I don't know that I ever really had any definition
on what I was supposed to do with Britney.
For a long time they called me her chaperone,
and then at one point
they wanted to call me her partner,
and we didn't think that sounded right.
I definitely was not her mother,
and I wasn't her big sister, so we settled on assistant.
♪ ♪
I wanna give you a tour of my tiny, little home.
Britney's mother helped decorate
because she's so proud of her sweet baby.
50,000 in Austria.
This is 5 million at this point.
These are more. [laughs]
This is the first one I got, y'all.
This is when "...Baby One More Time"
was a multi‐platinum album.
You have to sell a million copies in the United States
for an album to be platinum.
It can go platinum many, many, many times.
This is 11 million copies.
[laughs]
To be honest, I didn't then,
nor do I now understand what a conservatorship is,
especially for somebody Britney's age
and somebody capable of so much
that I know firsthand she's capable of.
She was a small‐town girl from Kentwood, Louisiana.
LIZ: Can you describe Kentwood, Louisiana?
FELICIA: Just a tiny, sleepy little town,
very hospitable and humble, unpretentious.
We are who we are.
We're not wealthy,
but we're wealthy in many other ways.
We are definitely in‐‐right in the middle of the Bible Belt.
Britney sang in the choir.
She grew up going to church every Sunday.
So I've known her since she was five.
You know, by then we all knew her talent
was just extraordinary.
I will say the one reason that I agreed to do the interview
is so we could remind people
of why they fell in love with her in the first place.
‐ From Kentwood, Louisiana,
here is ten‐year‐old Britney Spears.
[cheers and applause]
[The Judds' "Love Can Build a Bridge" playing]
‐ ♪ Love can build a bridge ♪
♪ Between your heart ♪
‐ If you think about her coming from such a small town,
you know, she clawed her way into the industry
right from the beginning.
‐ ♪ Oh, anything ♪
♪ Keep believing in the power ♪
‐ I noticed last week you have the most adorable, pretty eyes.
Do you have a boyfriend? ‐ No, sir.
‐ Why not? ‐ They're mean.
[laughter]
‐ Boyfriends? You mean all boys are mean?
I'm not mean. How about me?
‐ Well, it depends.
[laughter]
HAYLEY: Of all the things that she could be asked about,
because what else could we possibly talk to a woman
or a girl about?
There's so much more to her that everybody's missing.
[light dramatic music]
NANCY: Her parents reached out to me by letter,
and the letter said something like,
"We have no idea what to do with this child.
Help us. What do we do?"
I replied and said,
"Well, I would love to meet her in person."
They took the train from Louisiana to New York
'cause I don't think they could afford to fly.
Her parents were working people.
Her mom was just so sweet, so proud of her daughter,
and her dad too was very proud of‐‐proud of Britney,
and he was more concerned with the financial aspect of it.
How was he gonna be able to make this happen?
Could he make it happen?
But I know he wanted to make it happen for her.
And we came up with a plan.
Lynne and Britney would come to New York for a period of time.
Britney could study voice in New York,
and study dance in New York,
and do some acting and audition.
She was a funny, sweet, wonderful little girl.
I‐I loved her. I love her still.
‐ ♪ And I ain't had no loving since God knows when ♪
NANCY: Jamie visited from time to time
and was anxious to see this time be worthwhile
so that he could justify the money
that it was costing to do this.
‐ There was a time where you were struggling to really
make ends meet, and you saved all the money
you could to get singing lessons for Britney.
How did you manage to do all of that?
‐ It was really hard.
A lot of times we would rob from Peter to pay Paul.
You know, it was really hard.
NANCY: All this led to
"The Mickey Mouse Club" audition,
and she nailed it.
‐ We've got a girl that enters a strange dimension
of sight and sound as she crosses over
into the Teenage Zone.
♪ I know a place, and nobody ♪
‐ Britney just loved it, and when it ended,
it was devastating.
BRITNEY: After "The Mickey Mouse Club,"
I went home for, like, two years,
and I was completely normal.
I went to high school, and I did‐‐I played basketball.
I was just, you know, really involved with my school.
NANCY: And we started looking for auditions,
but it‐‐financially, it would have been
very difficult for them
to come back and forth to New York.
It was a tough time. It was a tough time,
and it was really, "What are we going to do now?"
And I know that the idea of singing was interesting to her.
I remember her making a demo tape.
FELICIA: Before I worked with Britney,
I was a nanny in New York. Lynne called.
She said, "Well, Britney and I are gonna be in the city,
and we'd love for you to have dinner with us,"
and I said, "Oh, that sounds great."
And Lynne said, "Felicia, I had an ulterior motive
for inviting you to dinner," and I said, "What?"
She said, "Britney got a record deal today,
"and I can't travel with her
"'cause Jamie Lynn's in the first grade,
but‐‐can you travel with her?"
And I said, "Oh, my gosh, Lynne,
"well, I quit my job yesterday. I guess I can,
but I'll do it for three months,"
and that was, mm, about 23 years ago.
[light music]
KIM: She had plans to come to New York
to meet people at the label.
She came into my office with her chaperone.
Her parents were in Louisiana.
She had a younger sibling that was still in school
and had to be taken care of,
so Felicia was really sitting in for the parents.
I remember Britney came in,
and I was really impressed with the fact
that she was so serious and so focused,
and I thought, "This is the style.
"This is a girl that's coming from strength,
"your friend that you kind of idolize a little bit,
"but that at the end of the day
has the same kind of hopes and dreams that you do."
‐ Mama, come here.
Aww, y'all look so pretty. This is my mom right here.
And this is my brother's girlfriend.
This is my little sister.
LIZ: Jamie, Britney's father, wasn't around very much
when Britney was growing up.
We know that Jamie was struggling with alcohol,
and he later goes to rehab.
He drifts in between construction, being a cook,
tries to open a gym business that didn't work out,
and later ends up filing for bankruptcy.
He doesn't seem to be a big presence in her life.
KIM: Her mother would do whatever it took,
personally and for the family's sake,
for Britney to be a star.
Lynne supported Britney.
I wanna say Lynne because I never talked to her father.
The only thing Jamie ever said to me was,
"My daughter's gonna be so rich,
she's gonna buy me a boat."
That's all I'm gonna say about Jamie.
‐ Hi, I'm Britney Spears,
and I'm so happy to be here today
in Langhorne, so thanks for coming out.
The name of this song is "Thinkin' About You."
KIM: There's a lot of work that goes into the preparation
for an album release.
Kids go to school.
Kids go to the mall, so how do we reach those kids?
‐ Hi, what's your name?
And this next song is my first single,
and it's called "...Baby One More Time."
FELICIA: We'd be in the middle of the mall,
and people would slowly stop and gather and watch,
and then when it was over, we would go shopping.
[Britney Spears' "...Baby One More Time" playing]
‐ ♪ Oh, baby, baby ♪
♪ ♪
‐ But then as she became a little more popular...
‐ "...Baby One More Time."
[crowd screaming]
‐ People really started coming to the malls
to seek out where we were.
‐ ♪ That something wasn't right here ♪
♪ Show me how you want it to be ♪
WESLEY: The video shows up.
Quite famously,
she is in a schoolgirl's uniform.
She owns the hallways at this school,
and the song is‐‐
is obviously sexual in nature.
‐ Teen singing sensation Britney Spears.
‐ ♪ 'Cause I need to know now, oh, because ♪
WESLEY: If you're 12 or 13 years old,
you're seeing a person who reminds you
in some ways of you.
It isn't the sex part that seems cool.
It's the control and command over herself
and her space that seems cool.
‐ She's so cool. I love her.
I love the way she moves and she grooves.
KIM: She just captured that dichotomy so well
of what a teenage girl is.
Teenage girls wanna be adult women, but they also are kids.
BOTH: We love Britney!
REPORTER: Well, congratulations.
Your single is exploding. ‐ BRITNEY: Thank you.
KIM: There's no bigger star in pop music than Britney Spears.
BRITNEY: It's so exciting.
It's really exciting. I'm very flattered.
INTERVIEWER: Are you even surprised at how fast
this has happened to you?
‐ Oh, my goodness, yeah.
It's, like, all of a sudden, you know?
O‐‐it seems like overnight, just boom,
you're just‐‐you're famous. It's weird.
FAN: Britney! Britney!
KIM: You have to remember one really important thing.
This is boy band time. This is not about girls.
Girls don't sell.
So it really was a phenomenon.
FELICIA: We still were those people
from Mississippi, Louisiana.
We were fresh, and everything was new.
She was so humbled by everything.
One of the first things that she did
when she just was getting famous was she‐‐
we were home for Christmas,
and she wanted to go get $10,000 in $100 bills,
and she just drove through Kentwood
and gave out $100 bills,
And it wasn't, "Hi, I'm Britney Spears."
It was, "Merry Christmas."
‐ I'm joined now by the one and only Britney Spears.
Dave Holmes is outside with just, uh‐‐just a boatload
of some of your biggest fans, I can imagine.
‐ Oh, my God. Everyone say hi to Britney.
ALL: Hi, Britney!
‐ Britney played MTV, 1999, perfectly.
She was in the studio for "TRL" a lot.
She produced excellent videos.
‐ These are my best friends, and they travel with me.
DAVE: She seemed very approachable to the audience,
so they could really connect with her
in a way that has never really been severed.
‐ ♪ Ooh, baby, baby, oops, I did it again ♪
INTERVIEWER: You sold over
20 million copies of your last album.
ANNOUNCER: Pepsi has a new voice...
ANNOUNCER: Britney has Got Milk,
Clairol, and Polaroid.
BRITNEY: I know all the ins and outs of what I'm doing.
I know about all the contracts
and all the deals I'm about to do.
I'm not just some girl who's listening to my manager.
♪ Oh ♪
ALL: ♪ I'm not that innocent ♪
MICHAEL: I mean, I know she's aiming
for the little kids market or whatever.
She needs to back off and put a pair of blue jeans on,
no shoes, and just sing, you know?
INTERVIEWER: To many, you are a contradiction.
On the one hand, you're a sweet,
innocent, virginal type.
On the other hand, you're a sexy vamp in underwear.
‐ I wouldn't say in underwear.
WESLEY: I mean, the thing that I find fascinating
about Britney Spears' arrival at this moment
is that she comes
in the midst of the Clinton‐Lewinsky scandal.
ANNOUNCER: President Clinton had an affair with...
ANNOUNCER: A sexual relationship
with a former White House intern, Monica Lewinsky.
WESLEY: And it's this really charged moment in the country
where we are talking about sex in a way
that we had never been talking about sex,
or hadn't been for a long time.
‐ See, that brings up the age‐old question for guys.
Who do you want, the nice girl,
the pretty girl you can take home to Mom,
or the cheap, slutty girl you know puts out?
Everybody goes for Monica!
WESLEY: An exponent of that interest in that relationship
bled over into our interest in Britney Spears in some way.
HAYLEY: I think a lot of people were, like,
uncomfortable with, you know, her sexuality.
INTERVIEWER: A lot of talk about your sexy Lolita look,
especially after the "Rolling Stones" story.
BRITNEY: Well, I think we're all girls,
and, I mean, it's a part of who we are.
You'd be lying if you said you didn't like to feel sexy.
You know what I mean? You're a girl.
INTERVIEWER: Everyone's talking about it.
‐ What?
‐ Well, your breasts. ‐ My breasts?
INTERVIEWER: You seem to get furious when a talk show host
comes up with this subject.
‐ I'll say this.
You know, I worked with all the boy bands, all of them,
and not one of the boys was ever under any scrutiny.
‐ It certainly is a paradox, isn't it, the way she works?
HOST: And the way she dresses.
‐ She doesn't seem that innocent.
HAYLEY: That's when she just really started
becoming more free
and less concerned with pleasing everybody,
which is also, like, a whole 'nother metaphor
for what women do, right?
At some point in our lives,
we stop trying to please everybody.
‐ Turn the music up. Up.
MAN: You're such a diva, Britney.
‐ I'm not a diva. MAN: You're such a diva.
‐ I'm not a diva!
I know what I like, and I know what I want.
KEVIN: She was definitely in control of a lot of decisions.
That idea that Britney is a puppet
who just gets moved around and told what to do
is incredibly inaccurate.
When I was involved in all of those years,
we would present a lot of ideas.
She would have to like them,
and she would have to approve them.
She was very creative.
She was the one who knew what she wanted to do,
and she would make that happen,
or her people would make that happen for her.
That's how I got hired,
is because she just told somebody,
"No, I want him to do it."
And it happened within an hour.
Okay, that's a no.
She was the boss.
‐ [screaming]
That is gonna be fucking cool every night, man.
That's gonna...
‐ You just‐‐
‐ Well, you just‐‐that's why I am where I am today,
is because I do have control, you know?
And you just‐‐you just control what you do.
You know, you have to.
Otherwise, you get sucked in by people that are not necessary.
[crowd screaming]
I'm just doing my thing right now,
just, you know, having fun.
WESLEY: We don't have royalty here.
We've got‐‐we've got famous people.
What was interesting about
the Britney Spears‐Justin Timberlake relationship
was that we hadn't really had a kind of,
you know, American couple in a minute.
‐ He said I love you to you when you‐‐
‐ He did. I know, I saw.
LIZ: And when they got together,
I think a lot of people thought
it was just totally perfect,
and they wanted to know everything
about their relationship.
‐ Am I a virgin?
[laughter]
[delicate music]
Um, yes, I am a virgin,
and I definitely wanna try and have sex till I'm married.
I just wanna wait for that special someone, so...
[quietly] Thank you.
DAVE: They break up.
Justin sort of made it seem,
rightly or wrongly, like she had cheated on him.
It really seemed like he took control of the narrative.
WESLEY: The way that people treated her,
to be very high school about it,
was, like, she was the school slut,
and he was, like,
the school quarterback or whatever,
and he essentially weaponizes the video
for one of his singles to incriminate her
in the demise of the relationship.
‐ ♪ Tell me you love me ♪
♪ Why did you leave me all alone? ♪
[song slows, stops]
‐ It was a revenge, pure male revenge fantasy.
STAR: Justin Timberlake is in the house,
and I just wanna ask you one question.
Did you [bleep] Britney Spears?
[laughter]
Yes or no?
JUSTIN: Oh, man. STAR: Come on, man.
JUSTIN: Okay, I did it. STAR: Yeah!
‐ Well, you know, misogyny. I don't know.
What can you say about misogyny?
There's a whole infrastructure to support it,
and when it's time for people to come,
in a misogynistic culture, for a woman,
there's a whole apparatus ready to do it.
[soft melancholy music]
♪ ♪
DIANE: I have to ask a couple of things about Justin.
‐ Okay, of course.
‐ He has gone on television
and pretty much said you broke his heart,
you did something that caused him so much pain,
so much suffering.
What did you do?
KEVIN: Her image was being painted as,
"Oh, what did you do to cause the breakup?
You must have done something, not him."
‐ Britney Spears has upset
a lot of mothers in this country,
starting with the wife of the governor of Maryland.
‐ Oh, that's horrible.
DIANE: Well, she‐‐ ‐ That's really bad.
‐ Because of the example for kids
and how hard it is to be a parent.
‐ Well, that's really sad that she said that.
Ew.
I'm not here to, you know, babysit her kids.
‐ There's just that invisible line that seemed to exist then
that nobody knew how to handle,
and nobody knew how to help her handle it.
‐ You've had a year that would test a lot of people.
‐ It was pretty rough, yeah. Um...
Oh, my goodness, hello.
Ew. Strong Britney.
Um, yeah, it was a weird time.
Ew, I'm embarrassed.
Can we stop this?
‐ Don't you think it's something
you really want to do all the time,
to be onstage, dancing and singing?
‐ I do that for fun. That's not my life, you know?
I see myself in the future with my kids and my husband,
and maybe do this on the side.
Okay, I wanna introduce you guys to my friend, Kevin.
He's so cute.
Hi.
I feel like I've been missing out.
‐ Okay.
‐ I feel like I've been missing out on life.
‐ Like, what part of life? ‐ Life.
‐ I don't think I was at all surprised
when she and Kevin got engaged.
ANNOUNCER: The announcement of Britney's sudden engagement
had the whole country talking.
‐ She told me, and then I remember her saying,
"I gotta call my mama,"
and I'm like, "Absolutely you do."
ANNOUNCER: But what do they think about this guy,
Kevin Federline, first of all?
JESS: Well, Lynne Spears says
that the two have good karma together.
LORA: According to reports,
the house you see behind me here in Studio City
is where Britney Spears tied the knot Saturday night.
[crowd screaming]
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
‐ My name is Brittain Stone, and I was
the photography director of "Us Weekly"
for about a decade.
When I had a really healthy budget,
it'd be $140,000 a week on imagery.
Extrapolate that over the year, you know, $7 to 8 million,
but, you know, spending millions of dollars
on pictures, that just, you know,
quintupled the amount of money that was out there,
which meant there were a lot more photographers
coming in and doing it.
DANIEL: I never wanted to be considered a paparazzi.
I've always wanted to be a filmmaker,
but it sucks you right in, and there's‐‐
it's hard to get out of it once you start making
the kind of moneys that these guys were making.
ANNOUNCER: Photos of Britney can sell
for up to $1 million each.
[ambient music]
♪ ♪
‐ Guys, be nice. Guys, be nice.
Everybody's gonna get their shot.
DANIEL: In the beginning,
when paparazzis were following Britney,
you could tell she enjoyed it.
[indistinct chatter]
PAPARAZZO: Britney, talk to me, baby girl.
DANIEL: She would give it up, the shots, waving.
She was very friendly, a sweetheart of a girl.
It was like she needed us, and we needed her.
We both needed each other,
and it was a great kind of relationship.
‐ There's a party at my house.
PAPARAZZO: All right, let's go, let's go!
‐ Yeah, Britney, let's do it! PAPARAZZO: Yeah!
PAPARAZZO: Thank you, Britney.
We love you, man, for sure.
‐ Well, there was always a little bit of a hunger
for the unposed photographs.
BRITNEY: Sometimes people's‐‐ their‐‐
you know, their personal life
becomes bigger than their work.
‐ As we had more of that kind of material in the magazine,
you know, the sales just went up.
ELLEN: Britney Spears and Kevin Federline!
LIZ: Britney then makes an announcement
that attracts even more paparazzi.
‐ And now, the baby, that's very exciting.
Now, you have to be really excited about that.
‐ Yes, ma'am. ‐ The last‐‐yeah.
[cheers and applause]
You don't look pregnant.
DANIEL: Once she started having her kid
with Kevin Federline,
it exploded.
‐ Keep him‐‐keep him in line. Keep him back.
DANIEL: Everyone wanted a piece of Britney.
The tabloids were paying a lot of money.
‐ Back away now.
‐ We wanna know what she's buying.
‐ We're "People Magazine." WOMAN: Oh, okay.
‐ And almost immediately, there's the perception
from the tabloids that Britney is an unfit mother.
‐ Pop star Britney Spears
is defending her actions this morning
after photos surfaced of her driving
with her infant son in her lap on Monday.
‐ The headline of "The New York Post" yesterday,
Britney tripping outside a New York hotel Thursday
while holding her eight‐month‐old son in one hand
and a glass of water in the other.
‐ Britney Spears is on the hot seat.
[soft dramatic music]
♪ ♪
MATT: You were photographed, I guess,
by the paparazzi again, pursuing you.
And there was Sean on your lap in the car.
‐ Yeah.
‐ Take me through what happened there.
‐ I went to Starbucks,
and I see a bunch of photographers, and I'm scared,
and I wanna get out of the situation,
and my baby's crying.
They're coming up on the‐‐ you know, the sides of the car,
which is a scary situation for me, you know?
And they're banging on the windows,
and that's not something I want my baby to‐‐you know‐‐
so I get my baby out of the car, and I go home.
So I mean‐‐and I just feel like they're taking cheap shots.
[soft ambient music]
♪ ♪
MATT: We've got all these legitimate people weighing in,
saying, "You know what? That's dangerous,
and she put her child at risk."
You saw the questions that were being asked:
"Is Britney a bad mom?"
‐ Mm‐hmm. That's America for you.
[laughs]
LIZ: Britney has two kids almost back‐to‐back.
She has her second baby
just about a year after having her first baby.
There's a lot of speculation over whether
Britney and Kevin have marital problems,
and then a few weeks after giving birth
to her second child, she files for divorce.
Britney files for sole custody of their two kids.
The very next day, Kevin files for sole custody himself.
And in her book, Britney's mother, Lynne,
writes that she thinks Britney was suffering
from postpartum depression.
‐ You know, the main thing that people became fascinated with
was her sort of unraveling.
Fascinating to not just, you know,
your typical celebrity fan base,
but just to anyone.
MAN: Let him through.
ANNOUNCER: Britney and Paris hooked up
with party girl Lindsay Lohan.
PAPARAZZO: There we go. PAPARAZZO: There we go.
JOE: She's basically starting to lose interest
in the very carefully‐managed image
of Britney Spears as a pop star,
and at the same time...
‐ Hey, we can't see, guys.
JOE: That tabloid culture,
they're reaching the height of their power.
ANNOUNCER: Britney Spears must be paying
the babysitter overtime.
‐ The goal is not to sort of‐‐
with these kinds of imagery, be negative about people.
It was to enjoy their lives
in a somewhat aspirational/relatable way.
PAPARAZZO: Oh.
GUARD: Watch out, watch out. PAPARAZZO: Whoa, guys.
GUARD: Let her out. GUARD: Come on, go, back up.
BOTH: Back up, back up, back up.
GUARD: Let her out, let her out, let her out.
GUARD: Let her walk.
CLERK: Watch your step, guys.
Breaking everything!
GUARD: Move back.
PAPARAZZO: Are you okay, Britney?
PAPARAZZO: Come this way, Britney.
PAPARAZZO: Over here, Britney, your car's here.
PAPARAZZO: You okay, Britney?
GUARD: You need to move. You need to move.
PAPARAZZO: Careful. FAN: Britney!
FAN: I feel you!
They shouldn't harass you like that, Britney Spears.
GUARD: Let her out, let her out, let her out!
PAPARAZZO: Hi, Britney, how you doing today?
You look gorgeous.
GUARD: Come on, man.
Hey, move it! stop, stop, stop it!
PAPARAZZO: Relax, relax.
‐ Hey, hey, really‐‐ what the fuck, man?
Stop it, stop it! Fuck, stop!
‐ Hey! ‐ Stop it!
[shouting over each other]
GUARD: Let her out. Come on!
[indistinct chatter]
‐ Please don't fight. I'm scared.
I'm scared, I'm scared, I'm scared.
Where's the door?
GUARD: Back it up, back it up, back it up.
Let her in, let her in.
GUARD: Go, move, move! Guys, let's go, move out!
[faint indistinct chatter]
‐ Why are you so close to my car?
MATT: What do you think it'll take
to get the paparazzi to leave you alone?
‐ Um, I don't know.
I don't know.
[soft dramatic music]
♪ ♪
MATT: Is that one of your biggest wishes?
‐ [sobs] Yeah.
[engine turns]
[light tense music]
♪ ♪
‐ Come on, guys. ‐ Hey, hey.
DON: We will turn now to a story
that is burning up the Internet.
It's just burning this morning.
‐ Everybody's talking about it. ‐ Yes.
Britney Spears, she's bald.
[soft melancholy music]
HAIRDRESSER: She came in, and she said
she wanted her head shaved.
The hairdresser refused,
so she literally grabbed her‐‐
the hair clipper and started doing it herself.
And she said, "I don't want anyone touching me.
I'm tired of everybody touching me."
♪ ♪
KIM: It's so easy.
It's so much fun to take a celebrity
who's a young, beautiful, talented girl
and rip her to shreds.
DAVID: It was so cold, Britney Spears had a chapped head.
JAY: Friends say this is the craziest thing
Britney's ever done that didn't involve marriage.
It's unbelievable.
WESLEY: And so she's saying, essentially,
with no hair, "I quit.
"Whatever you guys are looking for in terms of me coming back
"and being that person again, I'm not‐‐
"that person is gone, and you have‐‐
you have destroyed her."
[indistinct chatter]
The idea that people could look at that
and only see a crazy person, well, just‐‐
that just tells me that‐‐ you know,
what a‐‐ what a vulturous society
she was working with to begin with.
FAN: Hi, Britney. FAN: Hey, Britney.
DANIEL: It definitely gives me
a different perspective of it now, you know,
especially after so many years.
When you're caught up into that whole thing,
in that spider web,
you don't really see what the celebrity is going through.
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
Roberto calls me up, and he goes,
"Dano, don't call anyone.
"Get your camera, your video camera over here,
"and maybe you can get this, that I'm‐‐
that I'm getting Britney Spears by myself."
I caught up eventually with him,
and she was going out visiting Kevin Federline at his home.
The kids meant the world to Britney,
and she wanted to see her kids, and Kevin said no.
They went to a gas station.
She was with her cousin, Alli.
I looked at Britney from the windshield,
and I was videotaping her, and I said...
♪ ♪
We go back to Kevin Federline's house.
She buzzes the door again.
He doesn't open the gate. Well, now she's upset.
So they pull up behind a Jiffy Lube store.
I tell Britney, "Hey, Britney, all I'm gonna do
"is I'm just gonna ask you a couple of questions,
and then I'm gonna leave you alone."
And Alli's coming up to me,
and she's like, "Guys, please, please."
ALLI: Please, guys, don't.
Guys, please. Please, guys, don't do this.
DANIEL: And Britney just grabbed the umbrella,
started coming after me, and starts beating
the passenger side of my truck.
BRITNEY: [indistinct shouting]
Fuck you! Fuck yourself.
MAN: Hey, you gonna get in trouble for that.
DANIEL: That night was not a good night for her.
WOMAN: Oh, wow, she did that too?
DANIEL: And it was not a good night for us.
WOMAN: Oh, my God.
‐ But it was a good night for us
'cause it was a money shot.
[tense music]
♪ ♪
INTERVIEWER: Do you think the paparazzi
being around affected her at all?
‐ I don't really think and I don't really believe
because‐‐you know, working on her for so many years,
she never gave a clue or information to us that,
"I don't appreciate you guys. Leave me the eff alone."
INTERVIEWER: What about when she said, "Leave me alone"?
‐ There were times where she's like,
"Can you leave me alone for the day?"
But it wasn't like, "Leave me alone forever,"
you know what I mean?
HOST: The shaving of the head,
the umbrella scene with the paparazzi,
stints in rehab where she blames you for that,
and your relationship with her begins to dissolve.
What is happening to your family at that point?
LYNNE: It was so crazy at that time.
I don't think anybody was even trying to sit
and think of what was going on.
We were just trying to do what we could do at that moment,
at that time,
and we were praying very hard because it seemed like
we had no control over anything that was happening.
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
WESLEY: She fired her longtime manager.
She's grown very estranged
from various members of her family.
LIZ: More and more we've heard how she's very alienated,
that she will try to befriend almost anyone.
I mean, she's just desperately seeking friendship.
ANNOUNCER: If you're asking, "Who is Sam Lutfi?"
he is the latest in a long line
of the mysterious men in Britney's life.
JOE: Sam Lutfi just sort of came out of nowhere.
‐ You guys, further apart please.
‐ He's one of these self‐invented guru types
who is constantly attaching himself to celebrities,
often at vulnerable moments for them.
HOST: We're on the air at KIIS FM.
BRITNEY: Hi. HOST: Good morning, Britney.
Today, the album's been out for a day or so.
What will you do?
Will you promote the album? What are you gonna be doing?
SAM: This is it. HOST: This is it?
SAM: Doing all these calls. HOST: This is the promotion?
‐ Sam was her sort of advisor, trying to be her manager.
HOST: You've obviously been aware of the conversation
about your kids. How often will you see them?
BRITNEY: Oh, we want, um, my lawyers to do all that stuff.
SAM: Talk about fun stuff. BRITNEY: Yeah.
HOST: Okay, Sam, what do you wanna talk about?
‐ So Sam Lutfi was basically, you know, seen by her parents
as the architect of a lot of Britney's downfall.
PAPARAZZO: Let's go. Let's go.
GUEST: Shaved her head, attacked the paparazzi,
more custody drama.
Thank you, Britney Spears.
Being bad is good for my business.
[laughs] HOST: Oh, I know that.
[dramatic music]
‐ And nobody was talking about mental health
when Britney Spears was going through
all of that stuff in public.
The conversation was about what was wrong with her.
There was too much money to be made off her suffering.
‐ Name something Britney Spears has lost
in the past year.
[indistinct]?
‐ Her husband. ‐ Her husband?
Let's see how that stacks up, her husband.
It's something but not number one‐‐Lindsey?
‐ Hair. ‐ The hair, lost a lot of hair.
There it is.
[indistinct].
What has she lost?
‐ She has lost her sanity.
‐ Has she lost her mind?
[cheers and applause]
[melancholy music]
ANNOUNCER: A media frenzy
around an ambulance in Los Angeles.
Police say they were called to Spears' home Thursday night
over a custody dispute.
ANNOUNCER; She refused a court order
to turn her two children‐‐
ANNOUNCER: She was supposed to hand over
her two sons last night to Federline but refused.
ANNOUNCER: She reportedly had barricaded herself
inside the room at one point.
ANNOUNCER: She was rushed to the hospital overnight.
ANNOUNCER: Was wheeled out and brought here
to Cedars‐Sinai Hospital in distress.
ANNOUNCER: Was it the pressure?
Anxiety disorder? No one could say what it is.
ANNOUNCER: Is under psychiatric evaluation
that is involuntary, by the way...
ANNOUNCER: In an emergency session Friday,
a family court judge suspended Spears' right
to even see her children.
ANNOUNCER: Britney Spears made
an ever so brief appearance
outside a Los Angeles courthouse Monday, met by...
‐ Change in visitation that removed
Ms. Spears stays in force.
REPORTER: Until when?
‐ Indefinitely.
ANNOUNCER: Earlier today, Britney Spears was taken
to the hospital for the second time this month.
ANNOUNCER: We are told that she's been placed
on a 5150 hold.
That is essentially a medical health hold...
PAPARAZZO: Mr. Spears, can you tell us what's going on?
How's Britney doing?
‐ So around this time, Jamie, Britney's father,
files for temporary conservatorship over Britney.
‐ We hope the best for your daughter, sir.
LIZ: Conservatorships are a unique legal arrangement,
usually designed for elderly people
who are unable to take care of themselves or their money.
The court gives someone else
special powers to make decisions for them.
‐ Is she voluntarily going?
Is this a voluntary thing, or is it‐‐
LIZ: It's unusual,
because Britney's so young and productive,
but there's speculation that she may be dealing with
mental illness issues or drug abuse issues,
or otherwise would benefit from this layer of protection.
And it's sort of surprising in that
Jamie wasn't a huge figure in her life before this.
‐ Get out. Get out. ‐ Get out.
‐ All right, now everybody out, get out.
VIVIAN: My name is Vivian Lee Thoreen.
I was involved as an attorney of record
for the first few months of the conservatorship proceedings.
Our client was Jamie Spears, Britney's father.
I can't talk about anything specific that I did,
but I guess I could talk about it
in a more, like, hypothetical situation.
The courts take conservatorship proceedings really seriously,
and that's because, I think,
every person's rights are sacred.
There are rules and procedures in place
to make sure that there's accountability.
And really, the theme of conservatorships
is to act in the conservatee's best interests.
Some people need a conservator just of the person.
"I need help figuring out what I'm gonna eat,
"where I'm gonna live,
and help brushing my teeth," that sort of thing.
Having a conservator of the estate appointed for someone
is that they are substantially unable
to manage their financial affairs,
or they are susceptible to undue influence or fraud.
It's more than just, "I can't balance my checkbook."
It's "I could be duped into giving away my money."
[camera shutter snapping]
‐ It seems like undue influence
was a real concern for Britney's parents.
‐ Hey, get out of her face.
I mean now. Let's go, Lynne.
‐ Are you gonna get a restraining order against Sam?
Or you guys had been?
LIZ: They file for a restraining order
against Sam Lutfi.
They allege in court documents that Lutfi
had taken control of Britney's life,
her house, and her finances,
and even had been drugging her.
PAPARAZZO: Sam, can you tell us something?
LIZ: Lutfi denies the allegations.
PAPARAZZO: Can you tell us anything?
LIZ: But the court grants a restraining order.
GUARD: Let's go, keep going. ‐ Let's go, let's go.
‐ Keep going right now.
LIZ: But Lutfi never seems to really exit the picture.
‐ Keep going. ‐ What's going on?
‐ No, keep going. ‐ All right.
LIZ: He later sues the family
and pops up in subsequent restraining orders
as recently as 2019.
SAM: Hope you get better, Britney.
LIZ: One day after Britney was hospitalized,
the court grants a temporary conservatorship.
Britney's dad gets appointed the conservator of her person.
Then in terms of Britney's money,
he also gets appointed conservator of her estate,
alongside an attorney named Andrew Wallet.
ANNOUNCER: Just six days after being taken to the hospital
against her will in an ambulance
under police guard, the troubled pop star
was released without fanfare Wednesday.
‐ Shocking new development in the sad story
of Britney Spears. She's now out of the hospital.
She went straight from there
to the Beverly Hills Hotel, of all places.
All that and more later at the top of the hour.
‐ That's Anderson Cooper at 10:00‐‐
‐ you wanna say something? MICHAEL: I was gonna say,
it'd be less sad if we just left her alone.
I mean, why don't we just leave her alone and let her‐‐
let her just go on with her life?
♪ ♪
‐ I'm Adam Streisand. I'm a trial lawyer.
And my practice is focused on conservatorships
and battles over estates.
PAPARAZZO: Hi, Britney. How you doing, sweetheart?
Good to see you.
ADAM: I got a call from Britney's family law attorneys
and asked me if I would speak to Britney because,
well, the whole world knew that her father
was trying to establish a conservatorship over her.
PAPARAZZO: Hey, she's trying to get out!
[indistinct chatter]
PAPARAZZO: Come on, Britney.
GUARD: Let her go through, please.
Give her some room to go through, give her some room.
ADAM: I met with Britney.
‐ Hey, be careful! You're hurting her.
‐ Back up!
ADAM: We agreed to meet at the Beverly Hills Hotel.
Well, that's pretty famous,
'cause there was a lot of paparazzi.
And the first question I had was,
"Does Britney have the capacity to be able to hire me?
Does she have the ability to take my advice?"
The first thing is Britney was able to make the judgment,
"Hey, I get what's going on.
"I get that I'm not gonna be able to
"resist this conservatorship
or avoid this conservatorship," right?
So that's a pretty sound judgment.
The second thing was she said,
"I don't want my father to be the conservator."
That was her one request.
She wanted a professional, somebody independent.
INTERVIEWER: And was she opposed to her dad
as the conservator of the estate, the person, or both?
‐ Both.
Britney did not want her father
to be the conservator of her person, right?
The person who makes decisions about her medical care
and treatment, and so on and so forth.
She also didn't want him controlling her finances.
[soft tense music]
The day that I went to court for her, the judge said, um,
"I've got a medical report,
"and you haven't seen it, Mr. Streisand,
"and I'm not gonna show it to you,
"and it shows that she's not capable of retaining counsel
and directing counsel on her own."
When the judge told me,
"Mr. Streisand, I'm not gonna let you represent her.
I'm going to appoint somebody,"
I felt that was not the right decision by the judge.
I felt that, based on my interactions with Britney,
that she was capable of retaining me and directing me
and that the judge should have allowed that to happen.
‐ Can you give us some kind of a heads‐up
on what happened here today? ‐ No, I'm sorry.
I'm not gonna‐‐gonna be giving any statements on her.
But I didn't know what I didn't know, right?
I still don't know what is in that report,
and so I had to respect that.
♪ ♪
LIZ: According to court records,
Britney's conservators are able to control
who can and cannot visit her,
and retain security guards for her 24 hours a day.
They have the power to access her medical records
and communicate with her doctors.
They can take control of her house
and even cancel her credit cards.
They can make recording, touring, and TV deals for her,
and are deeply involved in her finances.
There's some speculation that Britney
may have basically accepted the conservatorship
because she was worried about seeing her kids.
And a few weeks later,
she starts to get some visitation rights restored.
[dramatic music]
VIVIAN: If there is a conservatorship proceeding,
and the proposed conservatee at some point consents,
the conservatee can't wake up one morning and say,
"I don't need this. I don't want it.
Make it go away."
A petition would have to be filed,
a petition to terminate the conservatorship,
and then there's gotta be evidence
or some demonstration that a conservatorship
is not necessary at that point in time.
It's the conservatee who has the burden of saying,
"I don't need a conservatorship anymore, and here's why."
INTERVIEWER: Have you ever known anyone
who has terminated a conservatorship?
‐ Of the cases that I've been involved in, um,
I have not seen a conservatee
who has successfully terminated a conservatorship.
♪ ♪
JAMIE: Give my baby some cheese grits.
She's been eating them since she was born.
For Southern girls,
the breakfast of champions is cheese grits.
[soft tense music]
LIZ: In the first year of the conservatorship,
Britney's team grants MTV access
to do a documentary called "Britney: For the Record."
‐ Hope I got enough cheese and butter in it.
‐ I'm good. ‐ Good‐‐all right.
LIZ: For the first time, we get a real peek
of the dynamic between Britney and Jamie,
who had just come along as her conservator.
‐ This is my dad.
"Britney Jean, sit down there, right there.
"She don't listen to me. I scream at her,
"and she gets on me about screaming at her,
"but I can't do it‐‐ now, you're just gonna
have to talk some [bleep] sense into her."
‐ Give me that phone, I'll hold that damn phone for you.
‐ No, Daddy.
‐ Oh, [bleep].
LIZ: And the topic of the conservatorship comes up
while they're filming the documentary,
and it's one of the only glimpses
that anyone has of how she really feels about it.
‐ If I wasn't under the restraints
that I'm under right now, you know,
with all the lawyers and doctors and people
analyzing me every day and all that kind of stuff,
like, if that wasn't there,
I'd feel so liberated and feel like myself.
When I tell them the way I feel, it's like they hear me,
but they're really not listening.
They're hearing what they wanna hear.
They're not really listening to what I'm telling them.
It's like‐‐it's bad.
[plaintive music]
♪ ♪
[quietly] And I'm sad.
LIZ: Almost immediately, Britney goes back to work.
Within two months, she's guest‐starring on network TV.
‐ "The personal library of Ted Mosby," that's you.
‐ And by the end of 2008,
she has recorded and released an album,
and is preparing to go on a tour.
ALL: ♪ In the center of the ring, just like a circus ♪
♪ When I crack that whip, everybody gonna trip ♪
♪ Just like a circus ♪
ANNOUNCER: She seems to be on this terrific path.
I think a lot of it has to do with the conservatorship
that her father took control of.
ANNOUNCER: Finally got a wholesome, good brand again.
‐ Yeah, Britney! ALL: Whoo!
‐ Once the conservatorship started, my role changed.
We're gonna walk around this way toward the stage,
so if you see your section, just show them your ticket.
My new job, I gave backstage tours.
When I went back, it was a different business management,
and her dad was involved, and so they did not hire me.
The touring company hired me.
I don't know why the Britney company did not hire me.
All I know is that maybe they just didn't know
the role I had played earlier.
PAPARAZZO: Felicia, just so people will believe me,
what is your relationship with Britney?
‐ I'm a business assistant.
So I took a back seat and simply did
what I was hired to do.
PAPARAZZO: Bye, Felicia.
FELICIA: I don't really know what went on.
I just don't know that they knew her well enough
to realize her capabilities in making the decisions.
Just me looking in, that's what I saw.
‐ Britney Spears has made her comeback 100%.
‐ It's Britney, bitch.
‐ Go and see the concert! It's amazing.
LIZ: Over the next few years, Britney's really busy.
‐ And the People's Choice
for favorite pop artist goes to‐‐
‐ It's Britney Spears! ‐ Britney Spears!
‐ Thank you so much. I wasn't expecting this.
‐ She's doing a lot.
BOTH: ♪ Oops, I did it again with my heart ♪
‐ Ladies and gentlemen, Britney Spears.
ANNOUNCER: Britney Spears' comeback
is translating to her checkbook.
‐ Hey, it's my show!
ANNOUNCER: Estimated earnings
over $58 million in the past 12 months.
‐ I think that your performance was incredibly special.
It was beautiful, and your tone‐‐
I agree with Demi‐‐
you have such a soulful tone for such a young age.
It was amazing.
‐ And then she does a really big deal,
which is a residency in Las Vegas.
[upbeat music playing]
♪ ♪
MAN: Who is it?
[laughter, cheers, and applause]
‐ It's Britney, bitch.
What's up, Vegas?
We should bring someone up here.
Can you be my Prince Charming tonight, please?
Thank you. [both scream]
FELICIA: I'm telling you, when she walked on that stage,
she never felt judged on the stage.
People ate her up.
They were mouthing every word that she sang.
Um, most people knew every dance move.
It was one of the‐‐one of the high points in my life, um,
is seeing how much she was loved.
ANNOUNCER: Originally raking in around $310,000 per show,
they deposit close to $1 million
in Brit's bank account every week.
‐ Jamie Spears gets approved by the court
to receive 1.5% of the gross revenues
related to performances and merchandise
related to the residency,
which was one of the most popular Vegas shows
of all time.
JOE: She's living the life of a busy pop singer,
and yet we're also being told that she's at risk constantly.
The business of Britney Spears have become
this very guarded universe,
and there was, you know, a very small inner circle of people
who were able to interact with her daily,
you know, because of the conservatorship.
DAVE: And any time there's that amount of money
to be made, you have to question
the motives of everyone close to that person,
especially if they are putting her in a position
where she cannot make decisions
without checking with somebody.
‐ Choose your own destiny.
JOE: I've never interviewed Britney Spears.
I would go so far as to say anyone
who has interviewed Britney Spears,
at least in the last five, ten years,
did so under very careful watch from her handlers.
‐ Baby, what are you gonna be when you grow up?
‐ I'm gonna be the president of the dog states, yeah.
‐ This is my impression of a Woody Woodpecker.
[breathy exhale]
[laughs as Woody Woodpecker]
[laughter]
[squeals]
LIZ: With the rise of Instagram,
it's no longer the tabloids
who choose how the world sees Britney.
ALL: ♪ Happy birthday to you ♪
BRITNEY: ♪ And many more, your pants are torn ♪
♪ They're down your back, get up off the floor ♪
LIZ: Britney can show us parts of her life
that she wants us to see.
‐ 360 in my room all day long!
Ahh!
LIZ: But the conservatorship is never really mentioned,
which makes some people wonder if she's sending
coded messages through her posts.
[pensive music]
‐ Britney's Instagram was just something
that was really fascinating to us.
You know, we would share her posts
and just kind of wonder what they were all about.
‐ And Babs was like,
"What if we did a podcast where all we did
was over‐dissect Britney's Instagram?"
BABS: Hello, everyone, and welcome to "Britney's Gram."
BOTH: The happiest place on the Internet.
BABS: I am Babs Gray. TESS: And I'm Tess Barker.
BABS: That's kind of where we started noticing
more and more these very cryptic things
she would post, like a hole cut out in a wall,
and the caption is, "There's always a way out,"
and it was just like, God, like, what is this?
It almost seems kinda dark.
‐ Um, I'm a Sagittarius. I'm very keen on freedom.
I love freedom. I love independence.
‐ If you think that Britney is calling out for help...
You'll find a reason in those videos
that's proof that she's calling out for help.
‐ My favorite Disney movie is probably "Frozen"
just because I really like the fact that the two sisters,
um, their relationship,
and then one goes off and lives in a castle
just because she can't deal anymore.
DAVE: Everyone's interpretation
of what Britney is putting forth
is something that they are bringing
to those Instagram videos.
It's impossible to know her so we never knew her.
We know her even less now.
She is‐‐she is kind of unknowable.
TESS: This is episode 50. BABS: Oh, my God.
Naturally, since it was a Britney Spears podcast,
we would look at any news involving her,
and we saw that her co‐conservator, Andrew Wallet,
was petitioning for a raise from the court.
This is what it read.
"Conservatee's business activities
"have greatly accelerated due to her increased wellbeing
"and her capacity to be more engaged
"in furthering her career activities.
"The next several years promise to be very lucrative
"for the conservatorship estate.
"This conservatorship should be viewed more
as a hybrid business model,"
which I think is probably the first time
that's ever been said about a conservatorship.
‐ And‐‐and that the conservatorship,
which really is put in place to take care of people‐‐
BABS: Naturally shouldn't be a business
that is making exorbitant amounts of money
from someone who is so fit to work.
[dramatic musical sting]
KALEN: Hello, world.
We are live in Las Vegas
for an announcement that is about to shake the table.
Y'all excited? [all cheer]
DAVE: So she was gonna announce
the Domination residency,
a brand‐new theater on a brand‐new stage.
It was gonna be, like, a year long, maybe more.
KALEN: She's coming. It's about to happen.
‐ She was gonna, like, do a performance
and then go down and do an interview.
It's live streaming. It's up on YouTube.
KALEN: I wish I knew some of that Britney choreo,
but she‐‐she a lot better dancer than me.
DAVE: Then it's like, the lights go down.
MARIO: All right, everyone.
We are here to welcome the new queen of Vegas.
["Till the World Ends" playing]
♪ ♪
Ladies and gentlemen, Britney Spears!
[crowd cheering]
DAVE: And she walks down
and then passes the stage
where the performance is gonna be,
keeps walking, keeps walking.
TESS: Doesn't say anything on stage,
doesn't give any interviews with reporters,
does not announce the residency that she's there to announce.
DAVE: And it's like, "Here she is.
Oh, there she goes. Oh, she's not gonna‐‐and‐‐
and there she goes in her limousine."
REPORTER: That's it? This‐‐we've been waiting
for this live stream. She just walked right by?
REPORTER: And she's just walking by.
LIZ: I think up until this point
Britney had seemed like a good little soldier
where she was happy to go out and perform,
but the abrupt cancelation of the second Vegas show
felt like the beginning
of the end of the fairy tale gloss
over the conservatorship.
BABS: And then nothing, disappears.
No‐‐no sign of her on Instagram.
We're just like, "Where the fuck is Britney?"
Welcome to "Britney's Gram."
BOTH: The happiest place on the Internet!
BABS: Currently when we're recording this
day 17 of the Britney shutdown.
TESS: I'm still not at peace. I'm anxious.
BABS: No! There's a‐‐ And then, out of nowhere,
Andrew Wallet quits.
This guy just asked for a raise‐‐why would he‐‐
‐ And had been the conservator since the onset
of the conservatorship. ‐ Like, what?
Something is going on behind the scenes here.
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BABS: Finally the Instagram,
which had been dark, there's a meme.
The caption says,
"We all need to take time for a little 'me time,'"
and there was a smiley face, an emoticon, not an emoji,
which we noted because we're like,
"Britney always uses emoji."
And it just seemed off immediately,
and the news breaks that‐‐
REPORTER: TMZ is reporting that Spears
voluntarily checked herself
into a residential mental health facility
about a week ago.
‐ We talked about all our suspicions with whether or not
she had actually elected to go on into the facility herself
and whether she'd been there for a lot longer.
‐ And the next day we get a voicemail.
PERSON: Hi, there.
Um, I cannot disclose who I am.
I used to be a paralegal for an attorney
that worked with Britney's conservatorship.
I am no longer with them.
‐ It just brought to light
a lot of the things that we had suspected.
PERSON: Britney has been in the mental facility
since mid‐January.
Of course, I‐I'm just a paralegal.
I haven't had any contact with her,
but, um, from what I understand,
this was, uh... not a decision she made.
‐ We felt that this information should probably be shared.
We don't know what the next step is
as far as getting her out.
That's what we have to figure out.
You know, she's been put away.
Let's get her out. Free Britney.
TESS: Free Britney. We love you, Britney.
BABS: Bye. TESS: Bye.
‐ A popular Britney fan podcast
aired a special emergency episode after receiving...
‐ So we released the podcast on a Monday night,
and by Tuesday morning it was everywhere.
NEWS ANCHOR: Social media is erupting
in Britney Spears hysteria.
‐ I love that shirt.
Eve's got that shirt, uh! [cheers and applause]
JUNIOR: I still remember the exact moment
the voicemail dropped
and the feeling I had of, "Oh, my God, it makes sense."
It clicked.
I knew then it was time to jump.
We gathered a few fans.
It wasn't much, maybe 10, 15. Pick a spot.
What do we want? ALL: Free Britney!
JUNIOR: When do we want it?
ALL: Now! JUNIOR: I was nervous.
Are people gonna think we're crazy?
Are they gonna take us seriously?
Are we gonna look like a joke? [cars honking]
But my heart said,
"No matter what, you're taking your butt there,
and you're gonna help her just the way she has helped you."
ALL: End conservatorship abuse. End conservatorship abuse.
‐ We think that, you know, the conservatorship
she's been under seems unjust.
‐ You know, it was effective
because we brought attention to the media.
‐ A #FreeBritney movement is behind me.
PERSON: Dear Britney.
‐ Dear Britney. ‐ Dear Britney.
‐ We grew, and we grew, and we grew, and we grew.
‐ I support you. I stand by you.
‐ Britney Spears needs our help.
‐ Why is it so hard to get out of?
Why is she still in it?
‐ This is Rose McGowan saying
free Britney.
‐ Free Britney!
[person squeals, crowd cheers]
LIZ: The Free Britney movement
runs from the innocuous to the extreme.
REPORTER: Britney Spears' father, Jamie,
speaking out against the viral campaign.
‐ Jamie tells "Page Six" that the movement is a joke.
REPORTER: "All these conspiracy theorists
"don't know anything.
"It's up to the court of California
to decide what's best for my daughter."
LEANNE: Yeah, you hear enough of that,
and you do start to question.
Like, I don't‐‐ maybe I'm delusional.
Maybe I don't know.
I should just listen to the people who "know" her.
But then when you‐‐you start to connect the dots
and you start to talk to other people
who have the exact same thoughts,
that this isn't right.
INTERVIEWER: You ever question, like, what if you're wrong?
‐ If I'm wrong and one day Britney does come out
and tells us that we're wrong
and leave her alone, we will do just that.
JOE: At this point,
things in the conservatorship world
start to change,
and you start to hear these tabloid reports
that Britney and her father
are no longer on good terms
and that at a certain point Kevin Federline
takes out a restraining order against Jamie Spears,
claiming that he had a physical altercation
with one of Britney's young sons.
Then you start to have all these machinations
behind the scenes that seem to change
not only the shape of what the conservatorship is
but the dynamics within the family
and within the business of Britney Spears.
‐ In the wake of her recent health troubles,
Spears' mom is now requesting
to be involved in her medical decisions.
NEWS ANCHOR: Her mother, telling the court
she just wants to have a voice in her daughter's life.
‐ Like, what does "Free Britney" mean
from your understanding?
‐ That I don't quite know, like,
what their‐‐what their meaning is, you know?
I don't know, maybe she's being confined or something
or held against her will in some capacity.
‐ Do‐‐have you ever seen anything
that led you to be concerned
that your sister was being held against her will?
‐ Uh, every day. The‐‐no, I'm joking.
I mean, like, wo‐‐the women in this family
are very, very strong‐minded and have their own opinion,
and they wanna do what they wanna do,
and as much as I admire that as a guy, being,
like, one of two guys in this entire family,
it kinda sucks, man.
‐ They're strong‐minded.
They want to do what they want to do.
Kinda constitutional, you know?
‐ I mean, yeah, and they have a right to do that, you know?
I mean, she's been in this thing
for quite some time now.
Obviously there was a need for it in the beginning,
and now they‐‐you know, they've made some changes,
and, you know, all we can do is kinda hope for the best.
‐ Right, you had to have asked her about it.
‐ I mean‐‐I mean, she's always wanted to get out of it.
What level of that is the reality, who knows?
CROWD: The conservatorship has got to go.
Hey, hey, ho, ho,
the conservatorship has got to go.
Hey, hey.
LIZ: Britney's case, I think,
has brought a lot of scrutiny
to the conservatorship system in general.
ALL: End conservatorship of youth.
LIZ: Flaws in Britney's case could reveal flaws
in the bigger conservatorship system.
‐ Free Britney!
‐ And it's now, very recently, in August 2020 that, like,
for the first time ever in the entire 12 years
the conservatorship has been in effect,
Britney appears to be
publicly signaling that she wants changes.
‐ Britney, with the help of her lawyer, Sam Ingham,
indicates that she would like a bank
to become the overseer of her estate.
The other thing that I think we're seeing
for the first time
is that she's sort of acknowledging
the outside phenomenon of Britney Spears fans
coming out against the conservatorship.
"At this point in her life, Britney welcomes
"and appreciates the informed support of her many fans.
"Britney herself is vehemently opposed to this effort
"by her father to keep her legal struggle
"hidden away in the closet as a family secret.
"In this case, it is not an exaggeration to say
that the whole world is watching."
This is a huge pivot.
‐ The document in which Britney basically supports the movement
and says that she‐‐ appreciative of our support,
our "informed support,"
'cause we've done our research.
And in the document, it mentioned
that they‐‐they thought it could be a battle,
a struggle to remove Jamie as conservator of her estate
and that that's kind of what it's shaping up to be.
PARIS: I love her so much, and I just‐‐
I feel that if you're an adult,
you should be able to live your life
and not be controlled,
and I think maybe that stems
from me being controlled so much,
so I can understand how that would feel.
PERSON: Let me point out to you
a few things about Jamie Spears, her dad.
His attitude from his attorney
is that this is in place for a reason,
but she does have freedom.
She travels. She does stuff.
It's not like she's under lock and key.
ACTIVIST: When do we want it? ALL: Now!
ACTIVIST: What do we want? ALL: Free Britney!
‐ When do we want it? ALL: Now!
LIZ: So on November 10th, there's a court hearing,
and attorneys for Britney, for Jamie,
and for Lynne are all present, and it's pretty rare
in that the public is allowed to be there as well.
LEANNE: There's such a limited amount‐‐you know,
number of participants that can join.
We will send in a couple people to listen in,
and I will update. I have a Google Doc,
and I'm taking, like, feverish notes.
‐ Leanne and Megan are sharing a Google note document.
‐ Oh, okay. ‐ So Leanne is taking notes,
and then Megan's reading,
the notes off the Google document,
so that's how we're finding out the information.
MEGAN: Hey, guys, it's Megan.
The judge has not made any decisions yet,
but we did wanna give you a quick update.
LIZ: For the first time we're starting
to see Britney's lawyer raise objections
to Jamie's management of Britney's estate.
‐ James' attorneys were arguing
that there's not really a conflict
between Britney and James,
but then Ingham came on and said that that's not true
and that Britney is afraid of her father
and that Britney has told him on multiple occasions
that she is refusing to work
until he is no longer managing her career.
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ACTIVIST: Oh. MEGAN: Lynne came in.
Lynne's lawyers came in.
She wants no ill will, told Jamie that, said,
"Lynne wants new sole conservator of the estate.
"It is no secret that the relationship
between Britney and James has been contentious."
‐ Okay. ‐ "We are here for Britney.
"Lynne wants her daughter to wake up tomorrow
and see brighter days."
ACTIVIST: Fight for your daughter.
LIZ: Some people would argue
that there's a conflict of interest at times
in the conservatorship system because in Britney's case,
she is paying for almost everyone on all sides,
so she's paying for not only her own lawyer.
She's paying for her conservators,
and she's paying for her conservators' lawyers,
so do they always have her best interest at heart?
‐ Judge is speaking. ‐ Judge is speaking.
‐ This is just in from the judge.
She says, "I am not going to be making an order
to dis‐‐to suspend Mr. Spears today."
ACTIVIST: They're not gonna suspend Jamie.
MEGAN: Today. ACTIVIST: Today.
NEWS REPORTER: The singer lost her latest court attempt
to strip her father of the court‐appointed title he has.
NEWS REPORTER: The judge ultimately declining to remove
Jamie Spears as conservator at this time,
but Britney's choice of wealth manager, Bessemer Trust,
was named as the co‐conservator
of her $60 million estate,
a small victory for Britney Spears.
ALL: Free her! Free her! Free her!
INTERVIEWER: What does that mean?
LIZ: It means that he has not stepped down.
Instead of stepping down, Jamie has said,
"No, I've done a good job.
"I love my daughter a lot, and actually,
it would harm Britney if I were to step down."
The judge allowed Britney to add on this bank
to be her co‐conservator of her estate,
but the judge also ruled not to remove Jamie at this point.
The judge left the door open as to potentially remove
Jamie further down the road,
but at this point he's still in charge of her money.
ADAM: What's really interesting is that
Sam Ingham, the other day, in court said,
"Britney's a high‐functioning conservatee."
I don't even know what that means, right?
If she's functioning enough to say, "Hey, I don't want
"my father to be conservator.
I'm not gonna perform if he is the conservator..."
Maybe she doesn't need a conservatorship.
But the problem is, we don't know what we don't know.
FELICIA: Okay, this is one of my very favorite pictures.
It is one of the very first pictures that we took
when we were in New York City,
and we wanted to have, um, Times Square behind us.
First time in Times Square. Oh.
‐ The image of Britney that we were sold
when she first hit the scene was this,
you know, perfect all‐American girl next door,
but a lot of fans are, you know, not that.
They were people like myself who felt like
they didn't fit in, and I think there was
some wanting to aspire to that image.
‐ See, this is my first tour on my very own.
KEVIN: We know now that Britney wasn't perfect.
‐ Are you ready to party? [cheers and applause]
KEVIN: Britney had to navigate
being told who she could be and what she could do.
‐ Gonna wear what I wanna wear, you know?
You can't concern yourself with everyone.
Otherwise you'll go crazy.
‐ I think that that story of control and identity
really resonates.
FELICIA: This is‐‐okay, this makes me very happy.
We went from Paris to London
underneath the water on a train,
and we thought that was about the coolest thing
we'd ever done.
I know at some point she will tell her story.
I know she will, and I am so grateful
for when that point comes that she's able to sit down,
and, you know, everything will fall into place.
BRITNEY: See the pink rose?
See how beautiful that is?
Watch.
It's just soap.
That's all it is. It's just soap.
It's not really a flower at all.
It's just soap.
See? Fooled ya.
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