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♪ From the ruins risen newly ♪
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♪ To the future turned, we stand ♪
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♪ Let us serve your good weal truly ♪
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♪ Germany, our fatherland ♪
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♪ Triumph over bygone sorrow ♪
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♪ Can in unity be won ♪
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♪ For we shall attain a morrow ♪
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♪ When over our Germany ♪
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♪ There is a shining sun ♪
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♪ There is a shining sun ♪
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[crowd clamoring]
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STASI SCOUNDRELS
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[crowd chanting] Stasi go home!
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[Böttcher] We didn't think
the GDR could ever cease to exist.
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We didn't see this coming.
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I only realized afterwards
that it was possible.
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[dramatic music playing]
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[narrator] The media tell us
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the murder of Treuhand Boss Rohwedder was
the work of the RAF.
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However, looking at the execution,
its presumed planning,
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and ideological background,
this assumption appears to be wrong.
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There are, on the other hand,
many indications
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that the assassinations
could have been planned and carried out
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by remaining structures of the East German
Ministry of State Security,
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known as Stasi,
that were still operational at the time.
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[grunts]
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[trainees shouting]
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[heavy breathing]
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[Matschke] In the Rohwedder case,
I see only one possibility:
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I see that this was carried out
by dissatisfied citizens
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of the former GDR.
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I am absolutely certain of that.
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[dramatic music playing]
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[Matschke] These people must have had
excellent military training,
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including training to become a sniper.
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[dramatic music continues]
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I see this as a revenge killing.
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[interviewer] Is this really possible
or highly unlikely?
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When it comes to the Stasi,
no evil is out of the question.
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[heavy breathing]
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GERMANY
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A NETFLIX ORIGINAL DOCUMENTARY SERIES
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The German Reich…
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Nobody has any intention
of building a wall.
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West and East Germany, a divided nation.
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♪ Unity and justice and freedom… ♪
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Red Army Faction.
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…insane attacks by barbaric terrorists.
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♪ …Fatherland ♪
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♪ Risen from ruins… ♪
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[Reagan] Tear down this wall!
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Our fatherland, reunited.
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♪ Flourish, German fatherland ♪
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OCCUPIER
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[reporter] Mr. Rohwedder has been killed.
What are your thoughts?
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Has he? That's news to me.
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Haven't listened to the news yet today.
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-You haven't heard this?
-No.
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He was the boss at Treuhand. Do you…
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Oh, well…
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I guess they had their reasons.
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I can't blame them.
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And if I had a chance to contribute,
I'd take out a few more.
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We've never been screwed like this before!
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If you ask me, the West German government
should have realized long ago
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that this is no way to run their politics.
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Perhaps this will make them realize
that the five new federal states
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are a bomb waiting to go off.
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Something was bound to happen.
Everyone could see that.
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I have my doubts whether this was
really done by RAF terrorists,
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as they say in the news.
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I don't know, it could have been
some people from the Stasi.
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[Diestel] I am quite sure
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this was not just some madman
or politically…
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MINISTER OF THE INTERIOR, GDR
PETER-MICHAEL DIESTEL
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…irresponsible people, like the RAF.
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I think the execution
of Detlev Karsten Rohwedder
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was for economic reasons,
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because of decisions he made,
measures he was responsible for.
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[helicopter whirring]
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[narrator] Berlin, city center.
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One office building was
the most important address
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for wealthy investors from the West
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who wanted to invest in the GDR.
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[investor] We are in negotiations
about buying a company.
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[reporter] What's going on?
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-What's going on? We are buying a company.
-Which one?
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I don't have to tell you.
I don't want to tell you here.
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I'm only visiting.
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-[reporter] What for?
-Just to see what's up.
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-You wouldn't be here without a reason.
-Why not? I'm visiting old friends.
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[Matschke] I experienced Treuhand myself,
and I watched…
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FEDERAL OFFICE
FOR THE PROTECTION OF THE CONSTITUTION
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…people queuing up in order
to get their hands on whichever company.
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Business people came over thinking,
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"Hey, what a bargain.
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I can buy a fully equipped company
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for one euro.
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I'm exaggerating,
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but the general impression was,
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"Here come the occupiers,
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breaking up all sorts of companies…
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TRUST AGENCY
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…to sell them off for a quick profit.
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[Hillmann] I don't know what to call them…
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GDR MINISTRY FOR FOREIGN TRADE
KURT HILLMANN
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…those who exploit things
wherever they find something to exploit.
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They invaded our little country
like locusts
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and…
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I would like to say,
they not only added to the chaos,
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they also aggravated
the personal misery of people.
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And you couldn't help…
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thinking,
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"So you are supposed to be
our brothers and sisters?"
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[upbeat techno music playing]
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[Rohwedder] At the moment,
we are indeed in a phase
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when companies, when the whole economy
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needs to sweat out any remains
of socialism. We'll have to endure this.
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And the quicker we dive into this crisis,
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like a sick person,
the quicker we'll come out the other end.
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[Diestel] Detlev Karsten Rohwedder was
the most powerful German business tycoon
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of his era.
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I imagine that some people did not like
some of his decisions.
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It feels a little bit like the Wild West,
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and some people are so insolent
in dealing with Treuhand.
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This would simply be impossible
in West Germany.
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Of course, privatization policies,
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uh, carried out as forcefully
as Treuhand did in our country,
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are always met with both approval
and disapproval.
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ASSISTANT ROHWEDDER
PETER BACHSLEITNER
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Thinking back to spring of 1991,
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Rohwedder seems to have been hated
by everyone.
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[Bachsleitner] And we did ask ourselves,
"Are we safe here?"
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Um, we had received a few threats already.
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Staying at the Grand Hotel,
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we often took the opportunity
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to walk over to the Treuhand building
in the morning.
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Right across the Street, there was
the so-called "House of Democracy."
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And he said,
"Look, if someone wanted to kill me,
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he could sit over there
and bump me off without being caught.
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We have no control
over who goes in and out over there."
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[thunder rolls]
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So…
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Now we can…
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[telephone rings]
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[suspenseful music playing]
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[telephone rings]
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[telephone continues ringing]
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[Classen] In our telephone conversations,
Mrs. Rohwedder always maintained
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that the Stasi must have been behind it…
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CRIME REPORTER
GÜNTHER CLASSEN
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…because their old networks were unhappy
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with her husband dissolving the GDR.
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[Classen] In his work,
he had come across clues
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where the Stasi might have stashed away
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several hundred million
that had disappeared.
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And the Stasi were worried
he might find their hiding place.
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Here are a few telexes
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that I sent
to the State Criminal Police Office,
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Department
for the Protection of the State.
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[telex machine clicking]
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[narrator] The evidence strongly suggests
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that a new form of terrorism is emerging,
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outdistancing the RAF
and dwarfing their efforts.
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Not only are they far more numerous
compared to the RAF,
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those ex-Stasi members
are also far more professional
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with regards to training,
communications, financial means,
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logistics, inside knowledge,
and experience.
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And they are blindly obedient.
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The Chief Security Office
of Saxony-Anhalt,
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Klaus-Dieter Matschke.
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[Matschke] Yes, I meant
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what I said here.
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It would only have benefited
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those who believed the sell-off,
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the total dissolution of the country
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could be stopped by killing this man.
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My name is Klaus-Dieter Matschke.
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I used to work for the Federal
Intelligence Service (BND),
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later for the Federal Office
for the Protection of the Constitution.
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In that job, I was moved to the former GDR
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to investigate
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who worked for the Stasi
before Reunification.
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What did they do?
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It was my job to report all my findings
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directly to the Prime Minister.
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I made contact
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with former Stasi generals.
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We spent a lot of time together,
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including drinking together.
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If I needed more information on a subject,
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I just asked one of them,
and he would give me an answer.
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I asked the generals
about the Rohwedder case,
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and they had come to the same conclusion:
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the murder had likely been
carried out by their own people.
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STASI, LIEUTENANT COLONEL
EBERHARD BÖTTCHER
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My name is Eberhard Böttcher.
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I used to work for the Ministry
of State Security (MfS/Stasi).
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My last job was in Branch XXII,
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as Head of Department 1,
and my rank was Lieutenant Colonel.
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[Böttcher] My sole reason
for joining the Stasi
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was my deep wish to help prevent
yet another war.
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I experienced World War II firsthand.
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My hometown Plauen
was bombed and 80% destroyed.
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There was hardly a building left standing.
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I know what it means to fear for your life
while cowering in a basement.
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This experience has stayed with me
and has shaped who I am.
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No more war!
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THE YOUTH OF THE GDR
GREETS THE YOUTH OF THE WORLD
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[crowd chanting] Friendship, friendship,
friendship with our Russian brothers!
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[Hillmann] The GDR was
an anti-fascist state,
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and that made it the better Germany.
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You have to remember
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that any Nazi who was keen to get away,
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who did not want to be caught
and tried by the Russians,
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made their way to the Western Zones.
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This led to the Western Zones
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being crowded with Nazis
of all descriptions.
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The same people
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who had wanted to kill me too,
just a few years earlier,
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because I am Jewish.
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UNKNOWN
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[Diestel] And if you look back
at this horrendous period
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of our country's history, the Holocaust,
the devastation of World War II,
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the appalling injustice
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Germany brought upon
its European neighbors and the USSR,
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bearing all this in mind,
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we do not deserve the great bliss
of being re-united.
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Though not deserving it at all,
we have achieved it.
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[Hillmann] From an economic point of view,
the GDR was bound to collapse,
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but I would not have expected this
with regards to its concept of society.
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[Böttcher] There was betrayal
in our ranks as well.
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People became susceptible.
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Some were just plain frightened.
They would have done anything…
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out of fear.
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[Böttcher] We had hoped that socialism
could reinvent itself.
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We were waiting for this to happen.
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But what happened instead?
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Total collapse,
as ordered by Gorbachev himself.
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[crowd chanting] Gorbi! Gorbi!
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[Waigel] The Soviet Union was
in deep economic trouble.
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MINISTER OF FINANCE
THEO WAIGEL
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In the summer of 1989,
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Helmut Kohl asked me
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to grant the Soviet Union,
and thereby Gorbachev,
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an untied loan of five billion DM,
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as Gorbachev was
in massive financial difficulties.
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Under normal circumstances,
I was only allowed to grant an untied loan
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if I was 99% sure to get the money back.
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In this case, I was 99% sure
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we would not get the money back,
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but we just brushed
our financial regulations aside.
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This was a very important
trust-building gesture,
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signaling to Gorbachev
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that he could rely on Helmut Kohl
and his government.
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[upbeat techno music playing]
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[Rohwedder] Mr. Secretary General,
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if you press the left-hand button
on this gadget,
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you will see a picture
of today's guest of honor: yourself.
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[applause]
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And, Secretary General,
our most important message to you is
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thank you for the speed and dynamics
of your politics.
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[cheering and applause]
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[Waigel] We wanted to achieve a change
in attitude.
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The Soviet Union was starting to think,
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"Maybe we are better off
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having a good relationship
with a reunited Germany,
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rather than having West Germany
as an enemy."
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At the German-Soviet summit in Moscow,
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Chancellor Kohl and Head of State
and Party Leader Gorbachev
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spent four hours in private talks.
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[reporter] The Soviet leadership was
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impressed that Helmut Kohl came to Moscow
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with a generous offer
for economic support.
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[Kohl] Gorbachev and I agree
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that the German nation should have
the sole right
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to decide
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whether it wants to live together again
in one country.
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He was like…
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Let me shake your hand.
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It was a good day's work.
We can be proud, really proud.
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I think we should celebrate
and get drunk right now.
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[Böttcher] The GDR had to perish
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in the face of West Germany,
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because it had lost all its allies.
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That's the truth!
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Do you all have a drink?
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-Yes!
-Yes!
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Here's to Germany!
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[upbeat music playing]
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[Böttcher] Because
of Gorbachev's betrayal,
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our country perished.
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My world came crashing down.
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I was depressed, sad.
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And my job was gone. We had to go.
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[reporter] The last staff members
of the Stasi
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left their workplace
for the final time today.
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The police officer in charge told me…
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[police officer] First we'll have
to collect their weapons
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and put them in storage.
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Then at a central depot, they'll turn in
the uniforms they used to wear.
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[Böttcher] We did not want
to be identified as former Stasi members.
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Bad press in the newspapers,
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on TV, and elsewhere
caused a great deal of anxiety.
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There was even talk
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of labeling us as a criminal organization.
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DOWN WITH THE STASI
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[Fischer] Minister for the Environment,
Karl-Hermann Steinberg
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was an undercover Stasi informant.
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[reporter] Minister, would you like
to comment on this?
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I must reject Mr. Fischer's accusations.
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MINISTER FOR THE ENVIRONMENT
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[reporter] We would like to ask you
a few questions
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regarding your work
for the Ministry of State Security.
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Where did you get that idea?
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-May we ask you--
-No. And stop taking pictures of me.
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[reporter] We are looking for Mr. Pirne.
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Pirne? That's me.
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-You?
-Yes.
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-Can you stop this, please?
-[reporter] Are you a Stasi officer?
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-No. Can you stop this, please?
-Were you a Stasi officer?
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There are documents stating
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that you are
an Officer on Special Deployment.
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Well, I was.
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-You were?
-It's in the past, of course.
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But you were an Officer
on Special Deployment?
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Yes, I was.
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-And you openly admit to it?
-Yes.
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Why should I deny it?
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Mr. Rohwedder, were you able to dismantle
the old SED networks
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in order to have more of a free hand?
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Mr. Lohse, if you're referring
to Stasi members,
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we don't have any at Treuhand,
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not anymore.
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I wouldn't be the head of an organization
where such people work.
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[Diestel] Many people were just fired
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and got no recognition
for their life's work.
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It was unjust,
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and it hurt me a lot to see them
simply being sacked
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by the self-perceived victors of history.
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After all, there was no victory.
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If anyone won,
it was us, the East Germans.
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[Matschke] Overnight,
they became nobodies.
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Today a General,
tomorrow begging in the street.
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This had a massive negative impact
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on all the former armed forces,
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not just the Stasi.
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[typewriter clicking]
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[narrator] Everyone should understand
that the former Stasi members are enraged.
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Their loss of social standing
is a catastrophe, to put it mildly.
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[narrator] Former high-ranking commanders
have either been sacked,
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unemployed, or have found terrible jobs
at the bottom of the social ladder,
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well below their true capabilities.
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[Diestel] And these are all people
who stepped down from power voluntarily
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in order to find their place
within this new, democratic system.
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[Diestel] Of course, I wouldn't rule out
the odd nut-case.
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The Stasi had 100,000 full-time employees.
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There might well have been someone
bearing a grudge.
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Revenge attacks in order to kill someone?
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Unthinkable.
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Although the possibility was there.
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[Böttcher] We had the weapons.
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If we had been ordered to go somewhere
and use our weapons,
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of course, I would have gone.
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But I don't know
if I would have actually fired a shot.
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In fact, it wasn't big news to me
that this man was shot.
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It was meaningless to me.
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I had more important things to deal with,
such as getting back on my feet
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in order to earn a living.
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I was lucky to meet the boss
of a security firm.
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He hired me immediately.
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But it still felt like
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being downgraded
from being the head of a hospital
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to becoming a porter.
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[Fox] Back then,
we employed a lot of people
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from the GDR's special forces.
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In the Düsseldorf/Essen area,
we had about 30
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working in various positions.
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We were glad to have them
as they knew how to handle a weapon,
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had a military mindset, knew how to guard,
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how to patrol and protect.
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So they were our preferred recruits.
There wasn't anything immoral about it.
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We had no means of checking
their full background anyway.
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[narrator] There were
four private security firms
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operating in the VIP area around
the Kaiser-Friedrich-Ring in Düsseldorf.
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Did they have a bad apple among them,
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spying out the Rohwedder house?
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How else could the gunman have known
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that the office window on the second floor
of Rohwedder's house
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was not bulletproof?
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There is a lot
a security guard can pick up.
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[Fox] I don't want to rule out
that people kept talking,
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to whoever, when off-duty,
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and that comments were made such as,
"Look at this house! He must be loaded!
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What are his security arrangements?"
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And that details of private security
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and police presence
may have been revealed.
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All those theories
are not that far-fetched, really.
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[Bachsleitner] I ask myself to this day,
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who is ultimately responsible
for the killing of my former boss?
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I did gain some insight
into the former Stasi early on
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while working at Treuhand,
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but investigating Stasi structures
and misconduct
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was not our primary concern.
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We were managing wealth.
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A lot of things have happened
that are rather unsavory,
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and I sometimes feel
like the Deputy Sheriff being blamed
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for everything that has gone wrong
over the past few months.
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That's rather unfair.
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[Diestel] Mr. Rohwedder had to make
some bizarre decisions,
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which were unpopular with some people.
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And if there was a rogue
among those unhappy people,
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who thought he could protect his interests
by using a weapon,
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then it could have been
one of the reasons for his death.
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4 WEEKS
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UNTIL THE MURDER
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In March 1991, we had discussions
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about employing auditors
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to analyze and establish
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whether there were any hidden assets
we needed to take control of.
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I am Kurt Hillmann,
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born in Berlin.
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I studied international trade
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and worked in the GDR's
Ministry for Foreign Trade.
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I was assigned to an international
trade company called IMES.
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IMES
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[dramatic music playing]
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Their business
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was the sale
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of weapons and ammunition.
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[dramatic music continues]
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The main weapon was the AK-47.
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Where did we sell them?
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Africa.
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South America.
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IMES was part of KoKo,
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the Department
for Commercial Coordination.
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[Webers] It was a whole network
of many people,
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often conducting normal business
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in order to earn foreign currency
for the GDR…
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…so that purchases could be made for which
the GDR Mark was not accepted as payment.
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But they also had
some rather questionable practices.
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There were crooked deals
such as an emergency appeal
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to donate blood for the victims
of an earthquake in Romania.
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But the blood ended up being sold
to the Red Cross in Munich.
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[Hillmann] Medical equipment,
the art trade,
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weapons, and ammunition…
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There was a whole range of goods involved.
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How they made their money
and how much they made
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only became known
after the Wall came down.
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[narrator] The weapons on offer included
far more than the well-known AK-47
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and its ammunition.
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[explosions]
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Trading in weapons…
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from a business point of view,
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whatever makes money.
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It doesn't matter what you trade in,
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be it buttons or heavy machinery.
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[Webers] Make no mistake,
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this was a well-organized department
that made the most of capitalism.
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[Hillmann] The head of the department was
Alexander Schalck-Golodkowski.
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[dramatic music playing]
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If there was corruption,
fraud, dishonesty,
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this is for others to investigate, not us.
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But we will do our share to shed light
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on the Schalck-Golodkowski affair.
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Uh... we are doing what we can,
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but it's an explosive matter.
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[narrator] Pictures
of his rare public appearances.
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Schalck was one of the most important
mediators between East and West.
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[Bachsleitner] Why didn't they ever
really chase
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the missing millions?
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Could it be that some people
had an interest
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in delaying this?
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SCHALCK-GOLODKOWSKI
WANTED
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Authorities are searching
for the former State Secretary
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of the Department
of Commercial Coordination,
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Alexander Schalck-Golodkowski.
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[dramatic music playing]
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[reporter] Business expert
Schalck-Golodkowski,
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who yesterday was still in Bonn for talks,
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is accused of exploiting his position
and of embezzlement.
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SEARCH FOR STATE SECRETARY
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[Webers] Dr. Schalck-Golodkowski was
on the run.
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They flew him to the Federal Intelligence
Service Office in Munich.
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And we were left wondering, "Is he really
getting away with it so easily?"
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SCHALCK-GOLODKOWSKI
FIRST PROCESS
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The initial court hearing took place
today at Berlin State Court in the case
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against the GDR's foreign currency
procurer Schalck-Golodkowski.
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I think he got a suspended sentence
of 18 months,
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and he must have been laughing about it.
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I remember we had
another court case against him,
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but the hearings had to be postponed
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because the accused sat
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in the German government airplane
on his way to China
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to advise on trading with the East.
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00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:45,960
From then on we knew that we couldn't
expect much from the state prosecutor.
502
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Someone held a protective hand
over the man.
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ALLEGATIONS REJECTED
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Today, Minister of the Interior Schäuble
repudiated a report in Stern magazine,
505
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,040
claiming he had helped
SED foreign currency procurer
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00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,520
and Stasi officer Schalck-Golodkowski
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00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,560
to escape GDR jurisdiction.
508
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:06,880
He had no case pending against him
in the West.
509
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:13,360
But we agreed that he should be helped
on a humanitarian level,
510
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,080
and the church social welfare organization
did just that.
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00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,560
[reporter] Wolfgang Schäuble is someone
who would have been
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00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:19,840
central to the investigations.
513
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,160
He knows a lot about the events
and said very little.
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00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,280
The whole government kept a low profile
and documents under lock and key.
515
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,080
[Webers] We got quite angry
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00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,280
when we heard Schalck
had sent letters to Schäuble.
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00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,000
He must have mentioned details
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00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:39,200
about companies, assets, etc.
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00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,720
We never got hold of these letters.
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00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,280
At first, Schäuble couldn't remember.
Then he declared the letters "private"
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00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,760
and claimed he was under no obligation
to hand them over.
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00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,880
And anyway, he could not remember
whether they were still in his possession.
523
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,920
And we were supposed to find the money?
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00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,440
Secure it? How? We had nothing.
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00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,240
[dramatic music playing]
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[narrator] The object
of special media interest:
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00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,200
the contents of possibly five suitcases,
full of explosive documents.
528
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,160
Schalck calls them his life's work.
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00:34:08,240 --> 00:34:10,760
Political dynamite in a reunited Germany.
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00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:17,840
Schalck-Golodkowski had a very adaptable,
flexible personality.
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00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,520
He couldn't have known anything
about my affairs,
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00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,640
and I don't know anything about his.
533
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,160
[Kinkel] Addressing concerns
that there might be someone…
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MINISTER OF JUSTICE
KLAUS KINKEL
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…supporting, shielding,
protecting Mr. Schalck,
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00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,880
I can only repeat what I have said
on numerous occasions before:
537
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:41,920
complete nonsense!
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00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,800
[Diestel] Files on West German politicians
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00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:50,800
have been destroyed.
540
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:53,480
I won't name names,
541
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,440
but the political elite knows
to whom I am referring.
542
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,240
This means we'll see those immoral,
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00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,520
ignorant, evil figures
in all sorts of functions
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00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,400
because no files will ever be found.
They're all gone.
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00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:14,040
[eerie music playing]
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00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:15,400
But I know one thing.
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00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:20,560
In spring, 1991,
there were no Stasi structures left
548
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,520
that could have executed people.
They simply didn't exist.
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00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:32,120
STATE CRIMINAL POLICE OFFICE
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00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,960
HEAD OF DEPARTMENT FOR THE PROTECTION
OF THE STATE, BERND WAGNER
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00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,280
The fact that this murder
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00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:42,240
could be politically exploited
back then is interesting.
553
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:49,320
Being politically aware and also thinking
in criminological terms, I ask myself,
554
00:35:50,720 --> 00:35:52,200
who could have gained from it?
555
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,280
I could imagine someone
556
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,360
who had nothing to do
with the Stasi or the RAF.
557
00:36:01,720 --> 00:36:05,960
He could be an independent killer,
but acting on orders…
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00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,440
on the orders of some powerful
Western political stakeholder.
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00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,000
[suspenseful music plays
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00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,520
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