1 00:09:36,202 --> 00:09:39,164 BETTY: Did the accident with the, the trial and everything 2 00:09:39,247 --> 00:09:42,083 don't you think that strengthened your family feeling too? 3 00:09:42,167 --> 00:09:46,421 LUCY: Yes probably. I was too young then to step out and take care of them. 4 00:09:46,504 --> 00:09:50,717 I always, as their fortunes waned during those years 5 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:55,638 I was very eager to make enough to take the burden off their shoulders. 6 00:14:58,983 --> 00:15:01,778 He was the king of the rhumba. 7 00:15:01,861 --> 00:15:04,656 The king of Latin music. 8 00:15:04,947 --> 00:15:07,659 Now he saw me when I was 16 years old. 9 00:15:07,992 --> 00:15:11,537 And that's how I ended up in the United States of America. 10 00:15:11,621 --> 00:15:13,247 And people liked me. Thank God! 11 00:15:14,248 --> 00:15:18,211 Cugat discovered a lot of excellent talented people, 12 00:15:18,294 --> 00:15:20,546 and I am one of them. 13 00:15:26,302 --> 00:15:28,096 Cugat discovered Desi. 14 00:15:28,179 --> 00:15:30,807 And he could see that he was a real dreamer. 15 00:15:35,812 --> 00:15:38,856 I met Desi because I knew Xavier Cugat. 16 00:15:38,940 --> 00:15:40,274 They have a lot in common, 17 00:15:40,358 --> 00:15:41,859 although Cugat was older. 18 00:15:42,235 --> 00:15:44,987 Because Cugat grew up also in Cuba. 19 00:15:45,071 --> 00:15:48,282 So they were, like they say in America, two peas in a pod. 20 00:15:48,366 --> 00:15:52,078 Cugat the maestro, and the student Desi. 21 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:02,828 1... 2... 3... Kick! 22 00:20:03,079 --> 00:20:04,872 1... 2... 3... Kick! 23 00:20:04,956 --> 00:20:07,500 When you have that rhythm so heavy, 24 00:20:07,583 --> 00:20:10,628 all percussion. It goes to your bones. 25 00:24:07,364 --> 00:24:08,824 BETTY: You felt right from the beginning 26 00:24:08,908 --> 00:24:11,410 that this was going to be difficult didn't you? 27 00:24:58,374 --> 00:25:02,503 BETTY: Did she come out to Hollywood as soon as you two moved out here? 28 00:26:40,684 --> 00:26:43,020 DESI: They called her "The Queen of the B's". 29 00:26:43,103 --> 00:26:46,774 In those days remember they were called the B pictures. Smaller budgets. 30 00:26:48,734 --> 00:26:50,611 REPORTER: Were you envious of her success? 31 00:26:50,694 --> 00:26:57,368 No not at all. But I couldn't stay out here and just, don't do anything. 32 00:34:06,129 --> 00:34:07,798 BETTY: How did you feel? 33 00:35:12,362 --> 00:35:13,780 BETTY: Do you think being in vaudeville 34 00:35:13,864 --> 00:35:16,908 had anything to do with you losing the baby? 35 00:35:18,368 --> 00:35:21,788 LUCY: I don't know. 36 00:37:16,903 --> 00:37:19,531 BETTY: Did you enjoy changing the baby and bathing it? 37 00:56:48,282 --> 00:56:51,493 DESI: In 48 hours we lost everything we had. Everything. 38 00:56:51,577 --> 00:56:55,664 They put all the congressmen in jail. All the mayors. All the governors. 39 00:56:55,747 --> 00:56:57,708 Everybody was in the can. 40 00:56:57,791 --> 00:57:00,294 And my dad was there for 6 months. 41 01:05:12,410 --> 01:05:15,747 BETTY: And what happened after you sold the reruns for 5 million? 42 01:05:15,830 --> 01:05:18,500 Why didn't he retire right then and there? 43 01:05:27,676 --> 01:05:29,260 DESI: She didn't want to quit. 44 01:05:29,344 --> 01:05:31,221 She'll never want to quit. 45 01:05:31,554 --> 01:05:34,307 Why doesn't Bob Hope quit? Or Jack Benny? 46 01:05:34,391 --> 01:05:36,935 Like Hope says, he gets bored fishing 47 01:05:37,018 --> 01:05:39,771 because he can't get a laugh from the fish. 48 01:05:39,854 --> 01:05:42,899 That's... I'm not judging. 49 01:05:42,982 --> 01:05:45,568 Because that's their life and they enjoy that. 50 01:05:45,652 --> 01:05:51,282 I happen to like other things, besides being in front of an audience. 51 01:07:25,210 --> 01:07:27,879 DESI: When the opportunity came to buy RKO, I bought RKO. 52 01:07:27,962 --> 01:07:29,547 Not because I wanted RKO. 53 01:07:29,631 --> 01:07:32,842 But I had only two choices. Either quit or get bigger. 54 01:07:32,926 --> 01:07:35,887 That is the way business is in the United States. 55 01:07:35,970 --> 01:07:38,515 You cannot be half-assed successful. 56 01:08:16,970 --> 01:08:19,305 DESI: I was at that place at 8 o'clock in the morning, 57 01:08:19,389 --> 01:08:21,641 and I had all my calls to New York, 58 01:08:21,724 --> 01:08:26,020 and I don't think I ever left the place before 10 or 11 o'clock at night. 59 01:09:26,456 --> 01:09:28,625 DESI: I got a one track mind. 60 01:09:28,708 --> 01:09:33,087 The biggest fault in my life is that I never learned moderation. 61 01:09:34,839 --> 01:09:37,967 I either work too hard or I play too hard. 62 01:09:38,051 --> 01:09:40,762 If I drank, I drank too much. If I worked, I worked too much. 63 01:09:40,845 --> 01:09:44,891 I don't know. One of the greatest virtues in the world is moderation. 64 01:09:44,974 --> 01:09:48,019 That's the one I could never learn. 65 01:09:56,444 --> 01:09:59,030 BETTY: This was the New York psychiatrist? 66 01:10:07,747 --> 01:10:10,875 Did you feel like you got anything out of it yourself? 67 01:10:10,959 --> 01:10:12,961 Did you get any insight into yourself? 68 01:10:18,341 --> 01:10:20,218 You decided it wasn't your fault? 69 01:11:13,062 --> 01:11:14,897 DESI: I was the one who wanted out. 70 01:11:14,981 --> 01:11:17,483 I brought it up and I, and I laid it. 71 01:11:17,567 --> 01:11:22,071 And I laid the plan for months ahead of time so it would work. 72 01:11:22,822 --> 01:11:24,866 Because I didn't want any part of it anymore. 73 01:11:24,949 --> 01:11:28,745 I just made up my mind I couldn't live anymore, that way. 74 01:12:06,157 --> 01:12:08,493 BETTY: Well weren't you rather weepy on that last show? 75 01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:22,548 You probably thought there would never by any more didn't you? 76 01:15:56,429 --> 01:15:58,431 DESI: I hated every minute of it... 77 01:15:58,514 --> 01:15:59,890 ...after a while. 78 01:20:35,583 --> 01:20:39,420 DESI: Oh goddamn! We're giving the minorities a break this week huh? 79 01:20:40,254 --> 01:20:41,589 Jesus Christ! 80 01:20:42,172 --> 01:20:44,425 The minorities are working this week huh? 81 01:22:47,005 --> 01:22:49,758 BETTY: Now isn't your job unique in the whole world right now? 82 01:22:49,842 --> 01:22:54,555 Aren't you the only woman who's the head of a corporation as big as Desilu? 83 01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:53,280 We're bringing it in to the very limit. 84 01:23:53,363 --> 01:23:54,615 And there is no- 85 01:23:54,698 --> 01:23:57,868 I don't know how to light a scene without lights. 86 01:23:57,951 --> 01:23:59,369 Period.