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The hardest part for me
was the four days

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That I didn't know
exactly what was in my head.

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I didn't know
if it was cancerous.

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I didn't know
if I was going to die.

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It's called
an acoustic neuroma

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And it went through
my ear

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And it was deep
in my right cerebellum,

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Sitting on my facial nerve,
my balance nerve

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And my hearing nerve,
but that's everything I do.

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That's my face, my singing,
my hearing, my dancing.

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I was like, "man."

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I don't want to cry, but my
first thought was my daughter.

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♪♪

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[ breathes deeply ]

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I wanted to make it back
just to be a mom.

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So I didn't care about
the business,

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Honestly, 'cause
that don't matter anyway

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If I ain't here
to do it.

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We've lost one sister.

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I just -- no,

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I cannot lose another.

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We have to grow old together
and be real old...
Mm-hmm.

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...Biblical-times old, like,
gray hair and everything.

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You hear what I'm saying?
[ speaks indistinctly ]

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Yes.
[ speaks indistinctly ]
[ laughs ]

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♪♪

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[ chuckling ] oh, my god.
I cannot believe this.

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I used to live in this plaza,
eat in this plaza.

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They had a good
barbecue-chicken spot there.

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Where's your house?

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It's going to be
down here on the right,

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Uh, um, right across
from the school.

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So this is the school.
Okay,
so this is the school.

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So -- oh, my god.
Wait.
Oh, my goodness.

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This was the house.
It looks so little.

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And I used to
drop you off...
Used to drop me off...

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...And pick you up...
...Pick me up.

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...Being the tlc chauffeur.

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Yep.

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Y'all should've paid me.

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Y'all didn't even offer
gas money.

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Oh, my god. We didn't have any,
or I would have.

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I remember
the first time

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We ever heard ourselves
on the radio.

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Yeah.

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So it was right here.

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It must've --
it had to have been this.

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It had to be here.
It was right here.

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And then you got out,
and you started dancing.

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Yep, and we was dancing
all over here.

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♪ check one, two, one, two ♪

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♪ yo, if I need it
in the morning ♪

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♪ or the middle
of the night ♪

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♪ I ain't too proud
to beg, no ♪

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♪ if the lovin' is strong,
and he got it goin' on and ♪

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♪ I ain't too proud
to beg, no ♪

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♪ two inches or a yard
rock hard or if it's saggin' ♪

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♪ I ain't too proud
to beg ♪

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Get up on your feet.
Tlc!

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Man: The biggest-selling
female group of all time.

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I would like to think two very
important people in my life.

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Elliott: They are legends.
They are icons.

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They will go down
in the history books of music.

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[ speaks indistinctly ]
hold it, hold it.

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Questlove: You instantly knew
these were nobody's

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Puppets on a string.

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My favorite group,
ladies and gentlemen, tlc.

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♪ a scrub is a guy
that thinks he's fly ♪

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♪ and is also known
as a busta ♪

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Whether it's destiny's child
or even

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With cardi b's
"invasion of privacy,"

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I see their influence
in so many artists today.

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Grohl: That's cultural longevity
that connects

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No matter when or where
or who.

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Their name will still be around
for the generations after us.

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♪ hangin' out the passenger side
of his best friend's ride ♪

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♪ trying to holla at me ♪

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'cause I don't want
no scrubs.

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Man: And the winner is...

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Man #2: "crazysexycool,"
the new album by tlc...

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Valdés: They weren't just
pop princesses.

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The image and what they stood
for was very real.

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[ belches ]
[ laughter ]

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It was catchy.
It was visual.

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They had all the elements.

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We are one short.
We're missing the "l" in tlc.

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T-boz and chilli
were at odds with left eye.

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Austin:
Lisa was still like, "I'm in the
group," "I'm out the group."

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We just didn't know
what was gonna happen, period.

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Woman: Many controversies,
financial and legal problems,

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And infighting within the group.

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When you start
being successful

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In the music industry,

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[bleep] just starts magically
being paid for.

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♪ one, two, three, four, yo ♪
♪ here we go again ♪

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Man: With 33 million albums
sold worldwide...

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Woman: Tlc has ruled
the music charts.

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Three of the hottest women
in hip-hop.

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♪ here we go, here we go,
here we go again ♪

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[ crowd chanting, "tlc!" ]

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Make some noise!

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Watkins: Tlc is forever.

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[ cheers and applause ]

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♪♪

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Jordan: In the late '80s,

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The atlanta music scene
was just about ready to explode.

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It had all of
the right pieces in place,

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And somebody just needed
to take that

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And, like,
put it all together.

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Laface records became a mega hub
for all of

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The local talent there,
like the motown of the south.

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L.A. Reid and babyface always
had their finger on the pulse

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Of what the next thing was
and had their ear to the ground.

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By 1991, hip-hop was sort of
entering this new phase

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Where it was discovering
its own powers.

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The sound of the bomb squad
throwing all these samples in,

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Throwing everything in
but the kitchen sink,

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And creating a new soundscape.

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♪ girl, I must ♪
♪ warn you ♪

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Bell biv devoe touched on it
with the "poison" album.

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♪ that girl is ♪
♪ poison ♪

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[ imitates beats ]

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And it took a second
for people

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Even to get to the "poison"
level,

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But when they did, they were,
like, obsessed with it.

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Ian had a vision.
He called it a female bbd.

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He said, "I want to put together
a female bbd.

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Do you know anybody?

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I immediately of tionne.
She run with us.

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She's so cool.

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Watkins: I worked with rico
with my first job

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At a hair salon
called lamonte's beauty supply.

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Wade:
She was new to the neighborhood.
She had just moved to delowe.

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So, really, she was
the new girl, and she was edgy.

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But he couldn't bring tionne
to the audition.

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She had to work.
Yeah.

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So what he did do
was he brought lisa.

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Hi, everybody.
Hello, philadelphia.

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How are you doing?

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One thing I'd like to start off
by saying is hold fast,

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Hold on to your dreams.

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A friend of mine,
he asked me to come to atlanta

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Because he had a singing group,

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And he would like for me
to be in the group.

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When I got there,
the group thing didn't work out,

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So I asked around if anyone knew
if there were any auditions

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Or anyone who wanted
to start a group.

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Was there anything
that I could do?

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And rico wade,
he was a dancer

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For the guy
that I went to atlanta with.

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He said, "yeah, I know someone
who's having auditions."

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Her name was crystal.

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So crystal came back
and said,

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"yo, you have to see
this girl rap."

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And she blew me away.

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They already knew her,
but she blew me away.

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♪ glad to claim my name,
and who's to blame for success ♪

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♪ and if you're
mentally correct ♪

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♪ you get respect
from the left ♪

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♪ so I expect some more respect
from every ho in return ♪

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♪ even if you used a condom,
it's still got burns ♪

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Dupri: Lisa wrote her own raps
and what she was writing

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Was what she was feeling,

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Whatever she was doing, she was
doing it at [chuckles] --

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At a level where you was going
to pay attention to her.

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♪ and since you know
so much about me ♪

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♪ won't you tell me
what's next? ♪

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♪ I hear my name comes out
your mouth so much ♪

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♪ it's better than sex ♪

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At that point, I actually had
three girls in the group,

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But he was so...
Adamant about tionne.

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He was adamant
about meeting tionne.

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So crystal and enrico
came over, and I sang,

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And then I danced.

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I saw immediately
a star quality in her.

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Kept lisa, kept tionne,
and crystal.

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We came up with the name
2nd nature.

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Jordan: L.A. Reid and pebbles
were married.

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She was an artist
and an executive

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And was out searching
for her own artists.

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So she took
my basic mold,

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She put money on it,
made them look like stars.

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She became our manager,
and she said

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That the group
should be called something else.

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All you guys' initials
are perfect.

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Tionne, lisa, crystal -- tlc.

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♪ see somebody standing
in your own backyard ♪

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The first time we actually saw
tionne and lisa, for that fact,

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Was in the "backyard" video,

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But they had put crystal
out of the group.

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Lopes:
Me, tionne, and crystal.

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It was interesting.

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Me and tionne, we wanted it.
We were hungry.

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We just didn't get that energy
from crystal.

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Watkins:
So pebbles said to me and lisa,

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"one person in the group could
'f' it up for the next one."

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So we had to go and kick
this girl out her own group.

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Lopes:
So the word was on the street.

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Everyone knew
that pebbles had a group.

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There was two members,
and she needed one more.

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L.A. Reid called pebbles
and said,

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"I think you need
to take a look at this girl."

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She had on her sweats.
She had on a baggy t-shirt

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'cause she was just leaving
rehearsal.

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Right off the bat,
we were feeling her vibe.

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I remember lisa
being very friendly.

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She was so sweet,
and tionne was not.

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You know what I'm saying?
Watkins:
I was like, I don't know her.

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She was all jolly and stuff,
and I was like,

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"girl, I don't know.
You cute and all,

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But I don't know you
like that."

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Thomas: [ laughs ]

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She wasn't mean.
She just wasn't friendly at all.

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But I hugged her anyway.
I didn't care.

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Lopes: So when we met rozonda
and we loved her,

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We picked her that night,
we<i> named</i> her that night.

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Watkins:
We were just, like, ecstatic.

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Our dream is finally
starting to come true.

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Thomas: From the beginning,

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I knew that it was
something special

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Between the three of us.

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That's just what I truly felt
in my heart.

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Man: Yeah, there you go.

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Ready?
Two, three.

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Holmes:
...With top-10 hits.

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They've sold 85 million records
worldwide.

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They are one of the best-selling
american groups of all time.

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Whoo. And guess what.
They're joining us here

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To talk all about
their national tour.

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Please welcome
the iconic members of tlc,

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Rozonda "chilli" thomas
and tionne "t-boz" watkins.

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T-boz, tell me
what it's been like.

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It's been amazing.
I'm not gonna lie.

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It's been
a lot of hard work.

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This is the first time
in our whole career

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Where our rehearsals
have been cut in half

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Because of the pandemic.

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Man: Let's go!

239
00:10:51,069 --> 00:10:52,685
Man #2: Boom, boom.

240
00:10:52,946 --> 00:10:54,854
Diggins: We're on the last day
of rehearsal today.

241
00:10:55,031 --> 00:10:56,722
Left, right, left.

242
00:10:56,966 --> 00:10:58,123
Where are we
on running time?

243
00:10:58,243 --> 00:11:00,726
I'm never nervous,
but there's been

244
00:11:00,745 --> 00:11:03,537
An enormous amount of stress
putting this tour together.

245
00:11:03,581 --> 00:11:05,614
These girls --
taking a lot of risk.

246
00:11:05,875 --> 00:11:08,133
Tionne, with an autoimmune
disease -- her life.

247
00:11:08,294 --> 00:11:11,871
Let's throw our masks on
if we're not dancing, alright?

248
00:11:12,090 --> 00:11:13,773
Thomas: But what breakdown
am I doing?

249
00:11:13,925 --> 00:11:16,859
[ speaks indistinctly ]
you're going to stress me.

250
00:11:16,928 --> 00:11:18,861
Every time we go out,

251
00:11:19,013 --> 00:11:21,480
You have to prove yourself
to an audience.

252
00:11:21,641 --> 00:11:24,708
You have to be innovative.
You have to be dynamic.

253
00:11:24,894 --> 00:11:29,379
The level of intensity
between tionne, chilli,

254
00:11:29,566 --> 00:11:34,568
And myself gets very high
because you can't disappoint.

255
00:11:34,612 --> 00:11:35,978
Watkins: We're not
rehearsing tomorrow?

256
00:11:36,239 --> 00:11:38,814
I ain't never, never not known
this much stuff.

257
00:11:39,016 --> 00:11:40,316
I know. Yeah.

258
00:11:40,535 --> 00:11:43,068
I've been with tlc
for 25 years,

259
00:11:43,246 --> 00:11:44,828
And every tour I've ever done

260
00:11:44,914 --> 00:11:48,757
Is more important
than the last one.

261
00:11:48,877 --> 00:11:51,377
Now we're being considered
for glastonbury.

262
00:11:51,629 --> 00:11:53,396
It's the most difficult festival
in the world

263
00:11:53,590 --> 00:11:57,090
To get accepted, playing
in front of millions of people.

264
00:11:57,218 --> 00:12:01,053
This would be the biggest
performance of their career.

265
00:12:08,980 --> 00:12:10,271
Thank you.
Ladies.

266
00:12:10,482 --> 00:12:13,866
Thank you.
What's playing here?

267
00:12:13,985 --> 00:12:16,593
Are there new movies here
or old ones?

268
00:12:16,780 --> 00:12:20,430
I feel like I'm going
to a high-school reunion.

269
00:12:20,617 --> 00:12:23,859
Ooh.
Ah,
look at those beauties.

270
00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,604
Take me back.
Classic tionne -- never smiled.

271
00:12:27,791 --> 00:12:30,082
And lisa and I,
we were always cheesing,

272
00:12:30,293 --> 00:12:31,283
Grilled cheesing.
Why am I standing alone?

273
00:12:31,461 --> 00:12:32,968
Do I look mean, though?

274
00:12:33,129 --> 00:12:36,130
I'm pretty sure because you had
a very intimidating look.

275
00:12:36,341 --> 00:12:38,448
Oh, my god.
You didn't intimidate me.

276
00:12:38,635 --> 00:12:40,134
Yes, I did.
No, you didn't.

277
00:12:40,345 --> 00:12:42,178
If you had intimidated me,

278
00:12:42,472 --> 00:12:44,621
I would not have hugged you
the way that I did all the time.

279
00:12:44,808 --> 00:12:46,390
So you just got used to it.
Did I hug you back?

280
00:12:46,643 --> 00:12:49,126
It didn't matter.
She was like...

281
00:12:49,312 --> 00:12:50,853
It was so weak,
but I didn't care.

282
00:12:51,105 --> 00:12:52,888
Oh, my gosh.
I was like,
"I'll break her."

283
00:12:53,048 --> 00:12:55,441
[ chuckles ]

284
00:12:55,652 --> 00:12:56,876
Lopes: Yo. What's happening?

285
00:12:56,986 --> 00:12:58,528
Hey, hey.
We in the house.

286
00:12:58,822 --> 00:13:02,055
Oh, I remember this.
Oh, man.
"I'm the tiggity tiggity."

287
00:13:02,325 --> 00:13:04,634
Now, are we looking at you?
Woman:
You can look right at me.

288
00:13:04,744 --> 00:13:05,809
So if you could first,
actually,

289
00:13:05,995 --> 00:13:07,686
Introduce yourselves
on camera.

290
00:13:07,872 --> 00:13:10,222
I'm the t, tiggity, tiggity,
t-boz.

291
00:13:10,333 --> 00:13:12,391
I'm the liggy, liggy,
left eye.

292
00:13:12,544 --> 00:13:14,593
I'm the "c," chilli.
Both: And it be the chills.

293
00:13:14,712 --> 00:13:17,763
All: And that is, oh,
on the tlc tip.

294
00:13:17,841 --> 00:13:19,315
[ laughs ]
yeah.

295
00:13:19,475 --> 00:13:20,608
[ laughter ]

296
00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:22,360
Woman: Thank you.
You're welcome.

297
00:13:22,512 --> 00:13:24,803
So how did you
get your nicknames?

298
00:13:24,889 --> 00:13:27,840
Well, t-boz stands for
my first name, tionne,

299
00:13:28,017 --> 00:13:29,349
And boz is slang for boss.

300
00:13:29,435 --> 00:13:32,019
It means "tionne is
the boss" -- t-boz.

301
00:13:32,105 --> 00:13:34,897
And my name's left eye
'cause I is right.

302
00:13:35,108 --> 00:13:37,933
[ laughter ]
it's a tlc thing.

303
00:13:38,194 --> 00:13:42,421
And my name is chilli because
I have all the mucho sauce.

304
00:13:42,574 --> 00:13:44,197
Austin: When we started work
on the group,

305
00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:45,457
Everybody was different.

306
00:13:45,577 --> 00:13:47,284
Chilli was a girly girl
at that point.

307
00:13:47,370 --> 00:13:49,428
She wasn't trying to wear
baggy clothes or none of that.

308
00:13:49,539 --> 00:13:52,348
Tionne was like the guy
of the girls.

309
00:13:52,542 --> 00:13:54,033
And then left eye, you just got
where all the quirkiness

310
00:13:54,210 --> 00:13:55,685
Was going to come from.

311
00:13:55,837 --> 00:13:58,378
But when they spent enough time
around each other,

312
00:13:58,506 --> 00:14:01,381
Then it started to rub off
where everything was okay.

313
00:14:01,384 --> 00:14:04,143
Nine hours?
Nine hours?

314
00:14:04,304 --> 00:14:05,444
One, two, three, four, five,
six, seven, eight, nine?

315
00:14:05,555 --> 00:14:06,979
Nine hours?
Watkins: Yeah, girl.

316
00:14:07,098 --> 00:14:10,299
It's going to be
kind of impatienized.

317
00:14:10,602 --> 00:14:12,718
Oh, that's what we used to --
yeah, we used to make up words.

318
00:14:12,937 --> 00:14:16,254
Impatienize.
Immobilize.
Yeah. Yeah.

319
00:14:16,399 --> 00:14:17,881
When I wake back up,

320
00:14:18,109 --> 00:14:20,793
I'm going to be
very immobilized.
Watkins: Uh-huh.

321
00:14:20,904 --> 00:14:22,728
When we get there...
Yeah?

322
00:14:22,906 --> 00:14:24,913
I'm going to be very

323
00:14:24,991 --> 00:14:26,331
Ready-to-go-
back-home-itized.

324
00:14:26,409 --> 00:14:28,868
[ laughter ]

325
00:14:32,248 --> 00:14:34,339
That's when I used to carry
a camcorder

326
00:14:34,417 --> 00:14:36,583
And a camera
on my neck daily

327
00:14:36,586 --> 00:14:37,901
When we were touring.

328
00:14:38,087 --> 00:14:39,211
Here we are,
chilling in the hallway,

329
00:14:39,380 --> 00:14:40,821
Waiting to do this thing.

330
00:14:41,049 --> 00:14:42,739
Chilli, how do you feel
about the first day of tour?

331
00:14:42,967 --> 00:14:44,967
We're at the venue.
Girl, I'm ready to get
the first two days over.

332
00:14:45,261 --> 00:14:47,853
After that, it's going to be on.
You know what I'm saying?

333
00:14:47,931 --> 00:14:50,122
I was born in columbus, georgia.

334
00:14:50,350 --> 00:14:53,342
I grew up there with my mom
and my great-grandmother.

335
00:14:53,519 --> 00:14:56,261
We called her big mama.

336
00:14:56,481 --> 00:15:00,257
My mom moved to atlanta
after she had me

337
00:15:00,443 --> 00:15:02,768
To finish school
and get a job.

338
00:15:02,946 --> 00:15:04,962
So I was in columbus
with big mama.

339
00:15:05,114 --> 00:15:07,264
She planted
some good seeds in me,

340
00:15:07,450 --> 00:15:08,841
And I grew up
seventh-day adventist

341
00:15:08,952 --> 00:15:11,994
Because she was
a seventh-day adventist.

342
00:15:12,246 --> 00:15:14,996
A lot of my friends had mom
and dad in the house,

343
00:15:15,124 --> 00:15:17,716
And I had my mom
and there was big mama.

344
00:15:17,835 --> 00:15:22,888
And I didn't feel like
I was missing anything.

345
00:15:23,007 --> 00:15:26,391
When I was a kid, I used to
love music.

346
00:15:26,511 --> 00:15:29,895
Singing and dancing,
I did that all of the time

347
00:15:29,973 --> 00:15:32,564
In the neighborhood
with my cousins.

348
00:15:32,642 --> 00:15:34,624
We used to make up routines.

349
00:15:34,811 --> 00:15:37,461
So I always imagined myself
on stage.

350
00:15:37,605 --> 00:15:39,939
Lopes:
[ speaks indistinctly ]

351
00:15:40,149 --> 00:15:42,157
Watkins: You don't know nothing
about this.

352
00:15:42,159 --> 00:15:43,442
[bleep]

353
00:15:43,653 --> 00:15:45,528
Move over here 'cause of
the light of the window.

354
00:15:45,738 --> 00:15:47,888
Alright,
check this out.

355
00:15:48,032 --> 00:15:49,081
Now, we phat,
we phat, we phat.

356
00:15:49,158 --> 00:15:50,749
Right?
Look in the mirror.

357
00:15:50,910 --> 00:15:52,910
Look at me.
I'm chilling. Right.
Check this out.

358
00:15:53,195 --> 00:15:54,670
We about to rock
this [bleep]

359
00:15:54,831 --> 00:15:56,472
We about to rock it?
You know what I'm saying?

360
00:15:56,541 --> 00:16:00,059
Damn.
We about to...

361
00:16:00,169 --> 00:16:02,669
When I was growing up
in philadelphia,

362
00:16:02,755 --> 00:16:04,930
My mother was
a very, very strong person.

363
00:16:05,008 --> 00:16:08,359
And my father was very strict.

364
00:16:08,469 --> 00:16:10,327
There were a lot of rules.

365
00:16:10,555 --> 00:16:13,438
My father was in the military.
He was very dominant.

366
00:16:13,516 --> 00:16:15,224
"what I say goes."

367
00:16:15,426 --> 00:16:17,209
Don't even question him.

368
00:16:17,270 --> 00:16:20,270
Don't say "why, daddy?"
"because I said so."

369
00:16:20,356 --> 00:16:24,024
So nothing really
out of the ordinary happened.

370
00:16:24,027 --> 00:16:25,417
But him and my mother

371
00:16:25,570 --> 00:16:27,194
Didn't get into their little
arguments and stuff,

372
00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,506
And he'd get
a little bit physical.

373
00:16:30,658 --> 00:16:32,575
Everyone in my father's side
of the family

374
00:16:32,744 --> 00:16:34,359
Is musically inclined.

375
00:16:34,620 --> 00:16:37,370
My mother's side of the family
is more artistically inclined.

376
00:16:37,540 --> 00:16:41,967
Those were some of the gifts
that I received from my parents.

377
00:16:42,045 --> 00:16:44,211
No. White music?
You crazy?

378
00:16:44,422 --> 00:16:46,379
Me, my sister,
and my brother

379
00:16:46,466 --> 00:16:48,674
Used to put together shows
for my mother

380
00:16:48,885 --> 00:16:50,367
While she was away at work.

381
00:16:50,470 --> 00:16:52,394
[ girl laughs ]

382
00:16:52,555 --> 00:16:56,048
And we'd say, "mom, mom,
we got a show for you."

383
00:16:56,050 --> 00:16:57,349
[ chuckles ] like that.

384
00:16:57,602 --> 00:16:59,785
We did everything --
from acting to a dance step.

385
00:16:59,979 --> 00:17:04,690
I don't know what was on our
minds, but we liked to perform.

386
00:17:06,360 --> 00:17:08,468
Yep.

387
00:17:08,571 --> 00:17:10,780
You know, out here.

388
00:17:11,074 --> 00:17:15,868
I was born at mercy hospital
in des moines, iowa.

389
00:17:20,249 --> 00:17:22,458
My mom was like the big kahuna
in church.

390
00:17:22,752 --> 00:17:25,510
She was in a singing group
called the viguelles.

391
00:17:25,588 --> 00:17:28,147
Being that I was
under my mother,

392
00:17:28,257 --> 00:17:30,515
Everybody expected me to sing,

393
00:17:30,635 --> 00:17:33,652
But I would never practice
in front of anyone.

394
00:17:33,763 --> 00:17:35,638
And so when it came time
for me to sing,

395
00:17:35,807 --> 00:17:37,247
They were sitting there like,

396
00:17:37,475 --> 00:17:40,008
"oh, god, what is tionne
going to do?" and I was like,

397
00:17:40,228 --> 00:17:43,495
♪ oh, sin now,
you're gonna be sorry ♪

398
00:17:43,606 --> 00:17:45,681
♪ you're gonna be so sorry ♪

399
00:17:45,817 --> 00:17:52,612
♪♪

400
00:17:52,782 --> 00:17:56,675
I spent the first seven years
of my life in the hospitals.

401
00:17:56,828 --> 00:17:59,511
The doctor diagnosed me
with sickle cell disease.

402
00:17:59,705 --> 00:18:04,416
He basically told me I would not
live past 30 years old,

403
00:18:04,627 --> 00:18:07,202
I would never have children,

404
00:18:07,463 --> 00:18:10,589
And I would be disabled
my whole entire life.

405
00:18:12,385 --> 00:18:13,725
I would always say, like,

406
00:18:13,886 --> 00:18:16,362
"mom, they're going to know me
on billboards,

407
00:18:16,472 --> 00:18:18,121
Magazines across the world."

408
00:18:18,307 --> 00:18:19,882
And she was like, "okay, honey.

409
00:18:20,143 --> 00:18:23,051
There's a couple of things
that you may not be able to do

410
00:18:23,187 --> 00:18:24,653
Like everyone else,

411
00:18:24,814 --> 00:18:27,790
But if you take care of yourself
and do the right things,

412
00:18:27,984 --> 00:18:31,735
You can do anything
that you put your mind to."

413
00:18:35,575 --> 00:18:39,367
Okay, so this is me
in the hospital,

414
00:18:39,370 --> 00:18:41,828
And this is an ekg.

415
00:18:41,914 --> 00:18:45,741
It keeps monitoring my heart
on that monitor.

416
00:18:45,918 --> 00:18:48,711
And that's my I.V. Fluids.

417
00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:50,562
[ clears throat ]

418
00:18:50,673 --> 00:18:52,915
That's what's going on now.

419
00:18:53,050 --> 00:18:56,001
[ line ringing ]

420
00:18:56,220 --> 00:18:58,345
Diggins:<i> Hello?</i>
Thomas: Billy d.

421
00:18:58,514 --> 00:19:01,164
<i> Good morning. Have you talked</i>
<i> to tionne this morning?</i>

422
00:19:01,392 --> 00:19:04,276
She called me yesterday, and she
was like, "I'm just so sorry."

423
00:19:04,437 --> 00:19:06,662
I said, "why are you sorry?
You couldn't help this."

424
00:19:06,856 --> 00:19:09,364
And she's all like, you know,
"but I just -- you know,"

425
00:19:09,525 --> 00:19:11,934
And I got her out of that
real quick.

426
00:19:12,195 --> 00:19:14,853
You know, she's going to be
good, have a speedy recovery.

427
00:19:15,072 --> 00:19:17,205
<i> We've been dealing with this</i>
<i> for 20 years.</i>

428
00:19:17,325 --> 00:19:20,050
Yep.
<i> Poor girl just has moments,</i>

429
00:19:20,203 --> 00:19:22,185
<i> And then, you know,</i>
<i> next week,</i>

430
00:19:22,371 --> 00:19:24,020
<i> She'll be in rehearsal,</i>
<i> dancing.</i>

431
00:19:24,248 --> 00:19:27,540
<i> She's more than likely going</i>
<i> to get out today or tomorrow</i>

432
00:19:27,543 --> 00:19:29,785
<i> And be ready to go.</i>

433
00:19:30,046 --> 00:19:35,257
We have recordings and radio
pick-up stuff, rehearsals,

434
00:19:35,426 --> 00:19:37,893
And then these shows.

435
00:19:37,895 --> 00:19:41,162
Ugh, man.

436
00:19:41,349 --> 00:19:43,715
I'm going to be
so stressed out.

437
00:19:43,976 --> 00:19:47,603
<i> We've got plenty of time</i>
<i> to get this show together.</i>

438
00:19:47,772 --> 00:19:49,521
<i> I'm confident with that.</i>

439
00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,225
Thomas: Man,
this used to be my spot.

440
00:20:02,453 --> 00:20:05,637
Watkins: Okay, so let me
tell you something.
Okay.

441
00:20:05,748 --> 00:20:08,824
When I saw you,
I came through that door

442
00:20:09,043 --> 00:20:10,826
And you were standing
over there.

443
00:20:11,045 --> 00:20:12,235
'cause I used to float.
I used to --

444
00:20:12,421 --> 00:20:16,681
All of this used to be,
like, perfume and makeup.

445
00:20:16,759 --> 00:20:17,983
So I went to college at 18.

446
00:20:18,094 --> 00:20:21,820
So I would come home
on, like, you know,

447
00:20:21,973 --> 00:20:24,205
Christmas break and stuff
and would work here.

448
00:20:24,392 --> 00:20:26,992
"hi, ma'am. How are you?"
these were the days.

449
00:20:27,061 --> 00:20:29,344
"what would you like
today?"

450
00:20:29,522 --> 00:20:31,522
And then that's when
I figured out

451
00:20:31,816 --> 00:20:34,066
That you could steal clothes
and take them back for $50

452
00:20:34,277 --> 00:20:37,360
And under and get cash.
[ chuckles ]

453
00:20:37,446 --> 00:20:41,114
When I got in trouble,
we were downstairs.

454
00:20:41,242 --> 00:20:44,159
They said I had too many
returns, and I said, "you --"

455
00:20:44,412 --> 00:20:45,935
I said, "I like to buy
things and return.

456
00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:47,346
You can't fault me
for that."

457
00:20:47,415 --> 00:20:50,207
[ laughs ]

458
00:20:50,501 --> 00:20:53,885
I want to see if the office
where they took me is there

459
00:20:53,963 --> 00:20:55,203
'cause I would
never forget.

460
00:20:55,423 --> 00:20:56,946
I was scared as hell,
girl.
[ laughs ]

461
00:20:57,091 --> 00:20:58,190
I was like, "oh, god."

462
00:20:58,301 --> 00:20:59,508
Isn't that crazy
that you were --

463
00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:01,059
How old were you
when this happened?

464
00:21:01,137 --> 00:21:03,136
I was, like,
about 16 or 17.

465
00:21:03,139 --> 00:21:04,596
So I was working here.

466
00:21:04,682 --> 00:21:05,848
That's when I saw you.
I told you.

467
00:21:06,017 --> 00:21:08,066
That's so crazy.

468
00:21:08,227 --> 00:21:10,569
I wasn't lying. I'm telling you,
I can't make that up.

469
00:21:10,730 --> 00:21:13,889
My group member, future
group member, was stealing.

470
00:21:14,108 --> 00:21:16,649
Let's see if it was over here.
I sure was.

471
00:21:16,694 --> 00:21:18,243
[ laughs ]
I sure was.

472
00:21:18,404 --> 00:21:21,638
While I was earning
a living.
I earned money, too.

473
00:21:21,782 --> 00:21:23,656
Don't leave me out
in that area.

474
00:21:23,659 --> 00:21:25,400
I was working, saving --

475
00:21:25,619 --> 00:21:27,644
I was working, too.
Saving my little coins.

476
00:21:27,830 --> 00:21:30,372
I was working.
This might've been the way.

477
00:21:33,294 --> 00:21:34,759
Yes.

478
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,713
What in the world?
This looks like a chicken coop.

479
00:21:37,965 --> 00:21:41,766
What is this?
Did they put you in here, ti-ti?

480
00:21:41,886 --> 00:21:44,327
"I swear I won't
steal it no more."

481
00:21:44,472 --> 00:21:47,056
"ma'am,
what is your mother's name..."

482
00:21:47,308 --> 00:21:48,673
"let me out."
"...And what's her number?
No."

483
00:21:48,893 --> 00:21:50,909
"I won't tell.
I'll never tell."

484
00:21:51,103 --> 00:21:54,020
"you're going to juvie."
"for what?
I bought those clothes"

485
00:21:54,190 --> 00:21:56,339
"1,000 times. 1,000 times."
"I bought those clothes.
It doesn't matter.

486
00:21:56,484 --> 00:21:57,733
And 1,000 times,
I didn't want it."

487
00:21:57,985 --> 00:21:59,609
"we don't show a record
that you bought them.

488
00:21:59,653 --> 00:22:01,737
We have record
that you returned."

489
00:22:02,073 --> 00:22:04,106
"it don't matter
where my receipt is."
"just let her stay
in here."

490
00:22:04,492 --> 00:22:07,692
"I bought it.
I bought it somewhere else."
"let her stay in here.
Let her stay in here."

491
00:22:07,995 --> 00:22:09,961
"none of your business
where I bought it."
thomas: [ laughs ]

492
00:22:10,081 --> 00:22:12,055
"and I'm leaving.
I'm going home."

493
00:22:12,166 --> 00:22:14,625
Lock her up.
[ both laugh ]

494
00:22:17,838 --> 00:22:20,005
Ahhh.
Oh, my god.

495
00:22:20,165 --> 00:22:27,912
♪♪

496
00:22:27,914 --> 00:22:35,403
♪♪

497
00:22:35,523 --> 00:22:38,381
Man: Dancers, are you good?
Are you ready?

498
00:22:38,526 --> 00:22:41,326
Alright, here we go.
Jump, jump, jump.

499
00:22:41,362 --> 00:22:44,530
Loosen it up, ladies.

500
00:22:44,740 --> 00:22:47,499
Man #2:
<i> One, two, three, four.</i>

501
00:22:47,993 --> 00:22:49,550
♪<i> yo, mic check, one, two,</i>
<i> one, two</i> ♪

502
00:22:49,552 --> 00:22:51,970
"ain't 2 proud."
alright, here we go.

503
00:22:52,039 --> 00:22:54,564
♪<i> we in the house</i> ♪

504
00:22:54,708 --> 00:22:56,374
♪<i> yeah, come on</i> ♪

505
00:22:56,502 --> 00:23:02,297
♪<i> 1992, tlc kickin' off</i>
<i> in you mother [bleep]</i> ♪

506
00:23:02,383 --> 00:23:04,675
♪<i> so you best be</i>
<i> duckin' fast</i> ♪

507
00:23:04,918 --> 00:23:07,486
♪ yo, t-boz,
is ya bein' a boss? ♪

508
00:23:07,638 --> 00:23:09,337
♪<i> chilli, what's up</i>
<i> with that sauce?</i> ♪

509
00:23:09,557 --> 00:23:12,057
Diggins: The first time
I ever saw tlc on tv,

510
00:23:12,226 --> 00:23:14,009
They just jumped off the screen,

511
00:23:14,228 --> 00:23:16,578
And I said, "wow.
Who are these girls?"

512
00:23:16,689 --> 00:23:18,646
♪ better get it
while it's hot ♪

513
00:23:18,732 --> 00:23:22,258
♪ ain't no better love
than your own ♪

514
00:23:22,445 --> 00:23:26,071
Valdés: Tlc really helped
put atlanta on the map.

515
00:23:26,323 --> 00:23:29,140
They just came out
and exploded in such a way

516
00:23:29,326 --> 00:23:31,593
That everyone had to pay
attention.

517
00:23:31,745 --> 00:23:33,328
"what's happening?
What is this music?"

518
00:23:33,581 --> 00:23:35,013
♪ yo, if I need it
in the morning ♪

519
00:23:35,124 --> 00:23:36,414
♪ or the middle
of the night ♪

520
00:23:36,500 --> 00:23:38,366
♪ I ain't too proud
to beg, no ♪

521
00:23:38,669 --> 00:23:41,453
Questlove:
It's like throwing my dad's
entire record collection

522
00:23:41,655 --> 00:23:42,946
In a blender,

523
00:23:43,132 --> 00:23:45,023
Just put on nine random songs
at the same time,

524
00:23:45,092 --> 00:23:46,533
And that was the feeling.

525
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,868
I think I had twentysomething
samples in that song.

526
00:23:49,096 --> 00:23:52,055
♪ join the paddy wagon
'cause I ain't too proud ♪

527
00:23:52,266 --> 00:23:54,649
And it worked
like gangbusters.

528
00:23:54,768 --> 00:23:57,385
♪ I ain't too proud
to beg, no ♪

529
00:23:57,646 --> 00:24:00,706
Austin:
The first album, me and lisa
would start off the project.

530
00:24:00,816 --> 00:24:02,357
It was, like, me and her
in the studio.

531
00:24:02,485 --> 00:24:04,643
All of us was always
feeding off each other's energy.

532
00:24:04,778 --> 00:24:06,228
We have our different sound.

533
00:24:06,447 --> 00:24:08,130
Everyone has their
own department.

534
00:24:08,282 --> 00:24:10,199
She's the funk, okay?
That's her department.

535
00:24:10,451 --> 00:24:13,251
She goes straight-up funk.
Miss funkiness.

536
00:24:13,412 --> 00:24:17,956
I'm the rapper, you know,
and chilli is straight r&b.

537
00:24:18,167 --> 00:24:19,975
I grew up rapping...
She's a true rapper.

538
00:24:20,169 --> 00:24:21,934
...She grew up singing,
and she grew up singing.
I grew up singing.

539
00:24:21,962 --> 00:24:24,512
So what does that say, america?
This is a<i> singing</i> group,

540
00:24:24,632 --> 00:24:26,465
Not a rap group.
Yeah, not a rap group.

541
00:24:26,634 --> 00:24:28,216
Austin: That was our process.

542
00:24:28,344 --> 00:24:29,693
Chilli's going to sing high,
left eye's going to rap,

543
00:24:29,803 --> 00:24:30,969
T-boz is going to sing low.

544
00:24:31,213 --> 00:24:33,346
♪ screamin' loud
and holdin' sheets ♪

545
00:24:33,432 --> 00:24:35,741
♪ scared that you'll be
called a freak ♪

546
00:24:35,851 --> 00:24:38,601
♪ gotta let it go
while you can ♪

547
00:24:38,687 --> 00:24:41,771
Valdés: Those lyrics,
it was female empowerment.

548
00:24:41,815 --> 00:24:43,265
Yeah, that's what all girls

549
00:24:43,484 --> 00:24:44,841
Might have been thinking
at the time,

550
00:24:45,027 --> 00:24:46,935
But who was actually
saying that out loud?

551
00:24:46,987 --> 00:24:49,570
♪ two inches or a yard
rock hard or if it's saggin' ♪

552
00:24:49,657 --> 00:24:51,389
♪ I ain't too proud
to beg, no ♪

553
00:24:51,534 --> 00:24:53,041
[ cheers and applause ]

554
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,577
Campaign '92 has been called
the year of the woman.

555
00:24:56,664 --> 00:24:58,129
Jordan: It was supposed
to be celebrated.

556
00:24:58,290 --> 00:25:01,858
It was the year of the woman,
but tlc got backlash

557
00:25:02,044 --> 00:25:04,636
For the message
that they were conveying.

558
00:25:04,713 --> 00:25:05,862
Man: "ain't 2 proud 2 beg"

559
00:25:06,006 --> 00:25:07,697
Is the first mega hit
off the album,

560
00:25:07,841 --> 00:25:09,191
But it caused
a bit of controversy

561
00:25:09,260 --> 00:25:10,792
For these lady rappers.

562
00:25:11,053 --> 00:25:13,795
They wear condoms on their
brightly colored baggy clothes,

563
00:25:14,014 --> 00:25:16,464
And they look too young
to be singing about sex.

564
00:25:16,684 --> 00:25:17,741
Do they try to censor
you sometimes

565
00:25:17,851 --> 00:25:19,225
Because you don't
look like

566
00:25:19,311 --> 00:25:20,485
You should be singing
the songs you sing?

567
00:25:20,604 --> 00:25:22,104
There's a lot
of double standards

568
00:25:22,273 --> 00:25:24,306
In our lyrical content.

569
00:25:24,525 --> 00:25:26,116
♪ yo, left eye, kick that ♪

570
00:25:26,118 --> 00:25:28,576
Back then,
things were a shock,

571
00:25:28,696 --> 00:25:32,530
Like, especially for women
to speak like that.

572
00:25:32,616 --> 00:25:34,907
Guys would always talk
like that,

573
00:25:34,910 --> 00:25:36,334
But women?
Oh, no.

574
00:25:36,412 --> 00:25:37,786
♪ yeah, I like it when you ♪

575
00:25:38,038 --> 00:25:41,723
♪ both sets of lips,
ooh, on the tlc tip ♪

576
00:25:41,875 --> 00:25:44,101
Man:
What's with the condoms?
This condom?

577
00:25:44,211 --> 00:25:47,086
People look at a condom
and say, "ew,"

578
00:25:47,214 --> 00:25:50,907
And this little, bitty thing
right here could save your life.

579
00:25:51,093 --> 00:25:54,653
You had 30,000 people
die of aids, that year,

580
00:25:54,763 --> 00:25:56,971
Mostly black
and latino people.

581
00:25:57,057 --> 00:25:58,640
I mean, if you really
think about it,

582
00:25:58,934 --> 00:26:00,692
Aids and all that stuff, nobody
really wants to hear about it,

583
00:26:00,769 --> 00:26:02,510
Nobody wants to talk about it.

584
00:26:02,813 --> 00:26:05,180
And it shouldn't
be like that.
They'd rather
just keep quiet.

585
00:26:05,399 --> 00:26:08,183
Now, I read that you all
said something about how,

586
00:26:08,402 --> 00:26:09,793
You know,
this is the way you all feel,

587
00:26:09,945 --> 00:26:11,703
How you want to dress,
and you're really not into

588
00:26:11,905 --> 00:26:14,372
That little, tight, short,
kind of sexy thing...
Watkins: Right.

589
00:26:14,575 --> 00:26:18,284
Because women don't have to
dress like that.
They really don't.

590
00:26:18,412 --> 00:26:20,028
We have a song called
"hat 2 da back"...
Uh-huh.

591
00:26:20,247 --> 00:26:22,364
...And it describes
our clothes, our style,

592
00:26:22,583 --> 00:26:24,607
And, you know,
just the way we are.

593
00:26:24,752 --> 00:26:26,001
♪ hat to the back ♪

594
00:26:26,253 --> 00:26:28,887
♪ I gotta kick my pants down
real low ♪

595
00:26:28,964 --> 00:26:31,757
♪ that's the kinda girl I am ♪

596
00:26:31,967 --> 00:26:33,483
Valdés:
They came out during a time

597
00:26:33,594 --> 00:26:36,728
That women
were such fans of hip-hop,

598
00:26:36,805 --> 00:26:39,789
But we didn't necessarily
see ourselves

599
00:26:39,933 --> 00:26:42,233
Completely reflected
in the music.

600
00:26:42,394 --> 00:26:46,646
It wasn't the typical r&b,
tight dresses, high heels.

601
00:26:46,649 --> 00:26:48,123
It was none of that.

602
00:26:48,275 --> 00:26:50,000
♪ bein' that I am
the kinda girl that I am ♪

603
00:26:50,194 --> 00:26:53,837
♪ tight jeans don't hit the same
with one like me ♪

604
00:26:53,989 --> 00:26:55,255
Bellamy: I mean, they were
wearing clothes

605
00:26:55,407 --> 00:26:57,598
That was three times bigger
than their size.

606
00:26:57,785 --> 00:27:00,159
Three little 5'2" girls.
[ chuckles ]

607
00:27:00,204 --> 00:27:02,645
I'm chilling here
with tlc, yo.

608
00:27:02,831 --> 00:27:05,331
What I thought was
really unique about them

609
00:27:05,334 --> 00:27:06,758
Was the color schemes.

610
00:27:06,877 --> 00:27:08,852
Thomas: That's when lisa
was spray-painting

611
00:27:09,004 --> 00:27:10,829
All of our overalls
and things like that.

612
00:27:11,030 --> 00:27:12,414
She was definitely

613
00:27:12,633 --> 00:27:15,417
One of the most creative people
I've ever met.

614
00:27:15,678 --> 00:27:18,737
Even the sound of her voice,
how loud it was...
Yeah.

615
00:27:18,847 --> 00:27:21,264
...The tone of it,
her rap style.

616
00:27:21,350 --> 00:27:23,183
♪ every day, last week,
and not a place to go ♪

617
00:27:23,477 --> 00:27:26,077
♪ this nut still had me dressin'
like a fashion show ♪

618
00:27:26,188 --> 00:27:28,205
But I think because
she's like that

619
00:27:28,315 --> 00:27:29,981
And is, like,
way over the top,

620
00:27:30,150 --> 00:27:35,286
Her being with us, it's like
we all balanced that together.

621
00:27:35,364 --> 00:27:36,938
That is what made it
so beautiful

622
00:27:37,157 --> 00:27:39,015
With the three of us
being together.

623
00:27:39,201 --> 00:27:41,192
♪ here we go, here we go,
here we go, here we go ♪

624
00:27:41,328 --> 00:27:42,594
-They have everything.

625
00:27:42,705 --> 00:27:44,379
They had the look
and they had the sound

626
00:27:44,498 --> 00:27:46,714
And they had the group
and they had the songs.

627
00:27:46,834 --> 00:27:49,334
Man: Their debut album
has gone double platinum.

628
00:27:49,586 --> 00:27:51,636
Woman: Are you guys going
to go on tour soon?

629
00:27:51,839 --> 00:27:54,030
Yeah, pebbles is
working on that.
Yeah, this summer,
most likely.

630
00:27:54,258 --> 00:27:58,627
I have my first group out now
on laface records, tlc,

631
00:27:58,679 --> 00:28:01,429
And I'm going
to live through them.

632
00:28:01,515 --> 00:28:03,623
Man: So they're, like,
your children.
Yes.

633
00:28:03,784 --> 00:28:05,383
Oh [bleep]

634
00:28:05,394 --> 00:28:08,753
I would say...
Not children, for sure.

635
00:28:08,897 --> 00:28:10,288
More like
maybe you look at us

636
00:28:10,441 --> 00:28:12,156
Like we're your little sisters
or something.

637
00:28:12,192 --> 00:28:13,382
I don't know.

638
00:28:13,527 --> 00:28:17,278
I mean, if we're
talking about back then,

639
00:28:17,364 --> 00:28:19,230
That was in
the beginning.

640
00:28:19,450 --> 00:28:22,868
We felt everything was cool
in the beginning.

641
00:28:24,371 --> 00:28:26,938
One thing I remember
about [chuckles] this room

642
00:28:27,082 --> 00:28:28,373
That just came back to me,

643
00:28:28,625 --> 00:28:30,058
This was the room
I had to talk to pebbles in

644
00:28:30,210 --> 00:28:33,094
To tell her that me and chilli
was really dating.

645
00:28:33,213 --> 00:28:35,446
And so, in this room,
this is where she brought me in

646
00:28:35,591 --> 00:28:36,581
And interrogated me at.

647
00:28:36,825 --> 00:28:40,676
[ chuckles ]
I was terrified.

648
00:28:40,763 --> 00:28:44,347
Thomas: So pebbles found out
about dallas and I,

649
00:28:44,433 --> 00:28:46,082
And she was acting like
I was being promiscuous.

650
00:28:46,268 --> 00:28:49,010
I'm like, "I'm seeing dallas.
That's it."

651
00:28:49,212 --> 00:28:51,029
Alright, cool.

652
00:28:51,148 --> 00:28:52,755
How did you get
the name chilli?

653
00:28:52,900 --> 00:28:55,867
But that's when...
Mm.

654
00:28:55,903 --> 00:28:56,960
Alright, so, yeah.

655
00:28:57,070 --> 00:29:00,489
So I got pregnant
when I was 20.

656
00:29:00,741 --> 00:29:04,267
I didn't get much support
at all from dallas,

657
00:29:04,453 --> 00:29:06,936
And there was no way
I was going to tell pebbles.

658
00:29:07,122 --> 00:29:12,993
I'm like, "oh, my gosh,
what am I going to do?"

659
00:29:13,086 --> 00:29:16,504
Growing up, all I could think
about is I want to sing

660
00:29:16,548 --> 00:29:19,006
And I want to be a mom,

661
00:29:19,092 --> 00:29:23,428
And I did not want to have
an abortion at all.

662
00:29:23,639 --> 00:29:26,564
Like, I'm like,
"how can I figure out

663
00:29:26,683 --> 00:29:30,051
How to keep the baby
and still do this?"

664
00:29:30,187 --> 00:29:31,569
I wanted both.

665
00:29:31,688 --> 00:29:33,705
And we wear baggy clothes
anyway, you know,

666
00:29:33,816 --> 00:29:37,334
So I could just hide it,
but it was tough.

667
00:29:37,486 --> 00:29:40,595
I made the appointment
to have that done.

668
00:29:40,614 --> 00:29:43,881
So that was a horrible,
horrible experience.

669
00:29:43,883 --> 00:29:46,067
I'm crying.
I'm not a mom.

670
00:29:46,286 --> 00:29:48,144
I could've been a mom.
You know what I mean?

671
00:29:48,330 --> 00:29:52,123
And, oh, man, it was
just really hard for me.

672
00:29:53,794 --> 00:29:56,061
After that,
I probably experienced

673
00:29:56,129 --> 00:29:57,820
Some kind of breakdown.

674
00:29:57,965 --> 00:29:59,764
I couldn't forgive myself.

675
00:29:59,967 --> 00:30:04,235
I just felt this tremendous
guilt from what I had done.

676
00:30:04,388 --> 00:30:09,507
And that guilt not being
properly dealt with

677
00:30:09,726 --> 00:30:13,478
Is what made me latch on more
to dallas.

678
00:30:17,651 --> 00:30:20,610
[ indistinct shouting ]

679
00:30:26,243 --> 00:30:29,827
On our first show ever
in an arena,

680
00:30:29,913 --> 00:30:31,997
They were going to "tlc! T--"

681
00:30:32,282 --> 00:30:36,117
I said,
"are they chanting our name?

682
00:30:36,119 --> 00:30:39,721
Yo, they really rock with us."

683
00:30:39,756 --> 00:30:42,448
[ cheers and applause ]

684
00:30:42,634 --> 00:30:44,359
The first two, three shows,
it was like,

685
00:30:44,428 --> 00:30:46,236
"[gasps] what is this?"

686
00:30:46,305 --> 00:30:47,629
It was scary.

687
00:30:47,764 --> 00:30:49,406
Lopes: Even if I was scared,

688
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,184
I'd psych myself out to the
point where it didn't matter.

689
00:30:58,275 --> 00:30:59,548
'sup?
'sup?

690
00:30:59,651 --> 00:31:02,903
Hello, d.C.
Whoo!

691
00:31:05,073 --> 00:31:07,723
[ camera shutter clicks ]

692
00:31:07,868 --> 00:31:09,408
Ooh, that was an experience

693
00:31:09,494 --> 00:31:13,121
Because tlc was not used
to performing as a group.

694
00:31:13,332 --> 00:31:15,457
We had known tionne
for a while,

695
00:31:15,667 --> 00:31:18,643
And she hadn't
gotten sick around us.

696
00:31:18,795 --> 00:31:21,996
It didn't seem that serious
in the beginning.

697
00:31:22,257 --> 00:31:23,648
It wasn't till maybe
after the third or fourth time

698
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,134
That she got sick
when me and chilli realized,

699
00:31:26,345 --> 00:31:28,553
"wow, is she going
to be okay?"

700
00:31:33,593 --> 00:31:35,093
Man: Feeling good?

701
00:31:35,145 --> 00:31:36,911
Watkins:
I'm getting there.
Getting there?

702
00:31:37,113 --> 00:31:38,771
Okay. Good. Good.
Yeah.

703
00:31:38,815 --> 00:31:40,682
Almost back to 100.

704
00:31:40,901 --> 00:31:43,944
Ooh. Almost.
[ sighs ] almost, anyway.

705
00:31:45,197 --> 00:31:46,537
You're walking
pretty damn good

706
00:31:46,657 --> 00:31:48,280
Compared to what you said
you were doing.

707
00:31:48,367 --> 00:31:51,117
No, I wasn't at first.
It's just swollen here.

708
00:31:51,203 --> 00:31:53,528
I think it's because I did
that stem-cell thing.

709
00:31:53,747 --> 00:31:55,889
It's supposed to help
your torn meniscus,

710
00:31:55,999 --> 00:31:58,249
But it aggravated it
more.

711
00:31:58,335 --> 00:32:01,902
We want to
keep your leg straight.
Straight.

712
00:32:02,047 --> 00:32:05,382
♪<i> baby, baby, baby</i> ♪

713
00:32:07,552 --> 00:32:11,221
♪<i> I got so much love in me</i> ♪

714
00:32:12,224 --> 00:32:15,433
♪ baby, baby, baby ♪

715
00:32:17,354 --> 00:32:20,238
♪ I got so much love in me ♪

716
00:32:20,357 --> 00:32:23,991
Wait, no.
She messed it up.
Right. Goes left.

717
00:32:24,027 --> 00:32:25,401
Look.

718
00:32:25,404 --> 00:32:27,303
[ both vocalizing ]

719
00:32:27,364 --> 00:32:28,596
Oh, lordy.

720
00:32:28,782 --> 00:32:30,198
♪ 'cause if you're gonna
get me off ♪

721
00:32:30,367 --> 00:32:32,250
♪ you got to love me deep ♪

722
00:32:32,369 --> 00:32:34,869
♪ that's actual and factual ♪

723
00:32:35,122 --> 00:32:37,222
♪ you're the one
I seem to run back to ♪

724
00:32:37,290 --> 00:32:40,241
♪ just to get me off ♪

725
00:32:40,419 --> 00:32:42,727
♪ you got to love me deep ♪

726
00:32:42,754 --> 00:32:51,686
♪♪

727
00:32:51,888 --> 00:32:53,863
You're moving your knees
too much.
You're moving your knees
too much.

728
00:32:53,932 --> 00:32:55,056
I ain't even do nothing.

729
00:32:55,267 --> 00:32:57,525
Hey, look,
you got a torn meniscus.

730
00:32:57,602 --> 00:33:01,112
I want this knee
to just stay this way.

731
00:33:01,231 --> 00:33:03,422
You were doing like this
and like that.

732
00:33:03,608 --> 00:33:05,900
Oh, my god.
Now you got to
change legs.

733
00:33:08,613 --> 00:33:11,239
Woman:
One, two, three, four.

734
00:33:11,575 --> 00:33:14,409
Watkins:
Dr. Braunstein -- he ended up
being my everything, child,

735
00:33:14,578 --> 00:33:16,185
The person that saved my life.

736
00:33:16,329 --> 00:33:18,580
He diagnosed me correctly.

737
00:33:18,832 --> 00:33:23,184
Her problems, unlike a
routine sickle cell patient,

738
00:33:23,336 --> 00:33:28,306
Primarily involved
her hips, her joints, her eyes.

739
00:33:28,425 --> 00:33:29,865
Watkins:
Sickle cell's very painful.

740
00:33:30,093 --> 00:33:33,094
It feels like someone's
stabbing you over and over again

741
00:33:33,305 --> 00:33:35,280
In your joints
with a butcher knife.

742
00:33:35,390 --> 00:33:36,814
Sometimes you're in
so much pain

743
00:33:36,933 --> 00:33:39,617
You don't know who people are.
You're delirious.

744
00:33:39,770 --> 00:33:41,770
Soren: We spoke to t-boz,
and she told us,

745
00:33:41,980 --> 00:33:43,271
"when I'm touring,
I get sick a lot

746
00:33:43,482 --> 00:33:45,397
And have to go
to the hospital."

747
00:33:45,442 --> 00:33:46,775
"t-boz became a spokesperson

748
00:33:47,027 --> 00:33:49,819
For the sickle cell disease
association of america."

749
00:33:51,198 --> 00:33:53,915
Watkins: I had mixed emotions
about coming out with the truth

750
00:33:54,034 --> 00:33:56,551
Because I never want nobody
to pity me.

751
00:33:56,661 --> 00:33:58,036
I wanted to just
be treated normal

752
00:33:58,246 --> 00:34:00,221
Like my mom
always treated me.

753
00:34:00,290 --> 00:34:02,957
[ cheers and applause ]

754
00:34:03,210 --> 00:34:05,418
When I told people what I wanted
to be or do,

755
00:34:05,662 --> 00:34:08,179
They thought
I was absolute crazy.

756
00:34:08,298 --> 00:34:09,588
"you're going to do
the very thing

757
00:34:09,633 --> 00:34:11,332
That can hurt you
or make you sick?"

758
00:34:11,551 --> 00:34:13,468
I want you to sing
along with me.

759
00:34:13,720 --> 00:34:15,744
You're supposed to get rest.
You get no rest.

760
00:34:15,972 --> 00:34:18,840
You're supposed to eat right.
You eat when you can.

761
00:34:19,017 --> 00:34:20,724
♪ now you want my love ♪

762
00:34:20,811 --> 00:34:24,770
The different climates --
that can cause a crisis.

763
00:34:24,856 --> 00:34:27,315
I don't know how I do.
Half of the things I do

764
00:34:27,526 --> 00:34:30,943
Except for god
has to be leading my life.

765
00:34:30,987 --> 00:34:32,278
I don't think
people understand

766
00:34:32,322 --> 00:34:34,113
What you go through
in the hospital

767
00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:35,489
Because a lot of times
people will be like,

768
00:34:35,575 --> 00:34:37,308
"oh, you look tired."
well, I am.

769
00:34:37,494 --> 00:34:39,101
When I get sick,
my face gets pale,

770
00:34:39,329 --> 00:34:42,955
My lips get pink,
and my circles get dark.
Yeah.

771
00:34:42,999 --> 00:34:45,049
But also in the hospital,

772
00:34:45,210 --> 00:34:47,685
They give you a lot
of I.V. Fluids with medication

773
00:34:47,838 --> 00:34:50,538
That blow your veins
and bloat you up a lot.

774
00:34:50,757 --> 00:34:53,191
So sometimes, like,
when people see me,

775
00:34:53,343 --> 00:34:57,469
Yeah, I gained some weight,
but sometimes, like, that puffy,

776
00:34:57,556 --> 00:35:00,682
Sick look, feeling,
like --
from the fluids.

777
00:35:00,851 --> 00:35:01,850
Yeah, from fluids.

778
00:35:02,018 --> 00:35:03,885
And so I'm sure
you'll see

779
00:35:04,062 --> 00:35:06,537
Some of that
in this documentary.

780
00:35:06,648 --> 00:35:08,556
But people don't know
that part.

781
00:35:08,733 --> 00:35:10,399
When you hit the stage,
you know,

782
00:35:10,527 --> 00:35:12,901
They just see t-boz singing
and dancing her butt off.

783
00:35:13,029 --> 00:35:15,613
You know,
they don't know --
we did the prep
ahead of time.

784
00:35:15,866 --> 00:35:17,573
Exactly.
And what has to --
and the vitamins.

785
00:35:17,701 --> 00:35:20,251
Right. What has to happen
after the show.
Yeah.

786
00:35:20,412 --> 00:35:22,995
Certain foods -- that helps
with inflammation.
Mm-hmm.

787
00:35:23,081 --> 00:35:26,490
Having a masseuse.
Lots of fluids. Your oxygen.

788
00:35:26,751 --> 00:35:29,360
All that kind of stuff
we didn't do back in the day.

789
00:35:29,546 --> 00:35:31,337
So they'd be like,
"t-boz ruined another tour,"

790
00:35:31,381 --> 00:35:33,064
But we didn't know
any better.

791
00:35:33,216 --> 00:35:34,924
You know better,
you do better.
Yeah. Right.

792
00:35:38,096 --> 00:35:40,104
Thomas:
Once we were off tour,

793
00:35:40,223 --> 00:35:43,332
We would each go back
to our personal lives.

794
00:35:43,435 --> 00:35:45,977
[ speaks indistinctly ]

795
00:35:49,065 --> 00:35:53,017
That's when lisa,
she and andre were together.

796
00:35:53,153 --> 00:35:54,602
Look.

797
00:35:54,821 --> 00:35:58,113
Jordan: Andre rison was
the wide receiver

798
00:35:58,116 --> 00:36:00,599
For the atlanta falcons,

799
00:36:00,785 --> 00:36:05,263
And he was also mvp
for numerous years.

800
00:36:05,373 --> 00:36:07,690
He was quite the man
around town.

801
00:36:07,876 --> 00:36:13,279
Andre and left eye
were atlanta royalty.

802
00:36:13,423 --> 00:36:15,890
When I met andre,
I was in the club.

803
00:36:16,092 --> 00:36:21,721
Andre followed me around that
club for the rest of the night.

804
00:36:21,973 --> 00:36:24,648
It wasn't until maybe
three or four times

805
00:36:24,768 --> 00:36:29,561
That I had run into him
that we just clicked.

806
00:36:29,648 --> 00:36:33,074
He had this big, beautiful
house, and it was empty.

807
00:36:33,235 --> 00:36:37,295
And I was like, "why don't you
have any furniture?"

808
00:36:37,447 --> 00:36:40,648
"because I'm waiting for you
to furnish it."

809
00:36:40,867 --> 00:36:44,635
Andre used to tell me,
"I love you," so much

810
00:36:44,788 --> 00:36:48,414
That I never had a chance
to say it first.

811
00:36:48,458 --> 00:36:50,007
This is how I ended up
living there,

812
00:36:50,126 --> 00:36:52,377
Staying there,
never leaving.

813
00:36:54,464 --> 00:36:55,938
Woman:
Show it to the camera.

814
00:36:56,132 --> 00:36:59,166
But when I caught him
messing around with this girl,

815
00:36:59,302 --> 00:37:01,652
I was shaking.

816
00:37:01,805 --> 00:37:06,173
And for the next two weeks,
he was sending me messages,

817
00:37:06,309 --> 00:37:07,992
Calling me every five minutes.

818
00:37:08,019 --> 00:37:10,102
"I'm sorry."

819
00:37:10,146 --> 00:37:12,163
So we went on a date.

820
00:37:12,315 --> 00:37:13,815
By the end of the date,
we were arguing.

821
00:37:14,025 --> 00:37:16,425
Got out of his car,
slammed the door,

822
00:37:16,611 --> 00:37:18,669
Walked down the street
to the supermarket.

823
00:37:18,738 --> 00:37:20,922
Somebody sees us.

824
00:37:21,032 --> 00:37:22,714
Man: Police say
the star wide receiver

825
00:37:22,716 --> 00:37:24,291
Got into a fight
with his girlfriend,

826
00:37:24,369 --> 00:37:26,201
Tlc performer lisa lopes,

827
00:37:26,329 --> 00:37:28,696
When someone came to her aid
inside a buckhead kroger store

828
00:37:28,748 --> 00:37:30,939
Early this morning,
rison went to his car,

829
00:37:31,167 --> 00:37:34,468
Grabbed a 9mm gun,
and fired one time in the air.

830
00:37:34,546 --> 00:37:35,795
It was a misunderstanding.

831
00:37:36,047 --> 00:37:38,964
Something happened
between me and my companion,

832
00:37:39,009 --> 00:37:40,958
And two people tried
to get into it.

833
00:37:41,177 --> 00:37:43,060
It was a matter of a situation
where I thought

834
00:37:43,263 --> 00:37:47,064
I might be hindered or might be
harmed, and I protected myself.

835
00:37:47,183 --> 00:37:48,433
Man: What prompted
the fight?

836
00:37:48,685 --> 00:37:51,477
What prompted the fight?
None of your business.

837
00:37:51,521 --> 00:37:54,238
Thomas: They had
a toxic relationship.

838
00:37:54,357 --> 00:37:57,984
It was always
something going on.

839
00:37:59,863 --> 00:38:00,987
Lopes: I went out.

840
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:02,971
I just wanted him to know
what it felt like

841
00:38:03,074 --> 00:38:04,748
To get home late.

842
00:38:04,868 --> 00:38:06,400
You know, he's looking at me,

843
00:38:06,619 --> 00:38:08,677
He walks by,
he says a smart comment,

844
00:38:08,679 --> 00:38:10,829
And I got real smart
with him immediately.

845
00:38:10,915 --> 00:38:13,415
Next thing you know,
he pulled me in the bedroom,

846
00:38:13,418 --> 00:38:15,835
And we were fighting.

847
00:38:19,799 --> 00:38:24,360
When I looked in the mirror,
hey, I was bruised up.

848
00:38:24,512 --> 00:38:27,421
I might've got slapped
a couple of times,

849
00:38:27,474 --> 00:38:30,241
And I know my dress
got ripped off of me.

850
00:38:30,393 --> 00:38:33,352
My nails had been ripped
from the sockets.

851
00:38:33,355 --> 00:38:35,730
Fingers bleeding.

852
00:38:36,024 --> 00:38:38,749
Rison:
I didn't do anything wrong,
and god is my witness.

853
00:38:38,902 --> 00:38:42,511
The only thing I did that
he might say that I did wrong --

854
00:38:42,739 --> 00:38:45,073
And that was I slapped her
after I had been hit

855
00:38:45,283 --> 00:38:48,442
About 50 times
to try to calm her down.

856
00:38:48,745 --> 00:38:51,629
Man: Flames erupted yesterday
morning at the $800,000 mansion

857
00:38:51,790 --> 00:38:54,790
In the exclusive country club
of the south in alpharetta.

858
00:38:54,918 --> 00:38:57,685
They say lopes started the fire
in an upstairs tub.

859
00:38:57,879 --> 00:39:02,665
[ sighs ] when I first saw those
images of the fire on the news,

860
00:39:02,759 --> 00:39:07,345
It almost felt like a scene
out of an action movie.

861
00:39:07,514 --> 00:39:09,680
It looked insane.

862
00:39:12,310 --> 00:39:15,136
Watkins:
I felt so bad for her

863
00:39:15,313 --> 00:39:17,571
'cause when I walked
in the room,

864
00:39:17,649 --> 00:39:19,499
I just remember
the look on her face.

865
00:39:19,609 --> 00:39:21,725
And she was -- her nails
were popped off.

866
00:39:22,011 --> 00:39:25,696
She was scratched up,
bruised up, and bleeding.

867
00:39:25,990 --> 00:39:29,283
And the whole world was looking
at her like, "what did you do?"

868
00:39:29,285 --> 00:39:30,434
You know what I mean?

869
00:39:30,620 --> 00:39:32,512
And everybody
didn't respond...
Yeah.

870
00:39:32,664 --> 00:39:34,838
...Like they should've
when they came to see her.

871
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:35,923
Yeah.

872
00:39:35,959 --> 00:39:37,350
Man: Andre rison's dream home

873
00:39:37,460 --> 00:39:38,976
Has turned into
a living nightmare.

874
00:39:39,129 --> 00:39:40,828
Man #2: Lopes slapped
and cursed rison.

875
00:39:40,964 --> 00:39:43,071
She made several
expletives,

876
00:39:43,258 --> 00:39:44,832
Indicated that she couldn't
take it anymore.

877
00:39:45,135 --> 00:39:47,668
Man: This is not the first time
lisa lopes has been in trouble

878
00:39:47,887 --> 00:39:49,578
With the law
over her boyfriend.

879
00:39:49,806 --> 00:39:54,525
Valdés: News reports at the time
were very much blaming lisa

880
00:39:54,644 --> 00:39:59,697
As the crazy rapper
who lit the house on fire.

881
00:39:59,858 --> 00:40:02,274
None of those news reports
took into consideration

882
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,844
That perhaps something else
had happened before

883
00:40:05,989 --> 00:40:08,005
To even be in this type
of situation

884
00:40:08,158 --> 00:40:10,575
Where something like
that could happen.

885
00:40:13,121 --> 00:40:15,854
Man: Lisa lopes was indicted
by a federal grand jury

886
00:40:15,957 --> 00:40:17,248
On October 26th.

887
00:40:17,500 --> 00:40:19,775
She's free on bond
as she awaits trial.

888
00:40:20,003 --> 00:40:22,670
I'm over it to the point
where, you know, I can function

889
00:40:22,881 --> 00:40:24,388
And be happy every day
and, you know,

890
00:40:24,507 --> 00:40:26,131
Not let it get to me
and bother me.

891
00:40:26,176 --> 00:40:28,359
So, I mean, things happen,

892
00:40:28,553 --> 00:40:31,787
But, you know, I got to put it
behind me and keep on moving.

893
00:40:32,015 --> 00:40:35,307
Thomas: The only advice that
I could give is, "leave him."

894
00:40:35,351 --> 00:40:37,318
I'm pretty sure
I told her that.

895
00:40:37,395 --> 00:40:39,537
"you can't ever talk to him
again."

896
00:40:39,564 --> 00:40:40,571
But she did.

897
00:40:40,648 --> 00:40:42,039
Oh, my<i> old</i> boyfriend?

898
00:40:42,150 --> 00:40:45,309
Ha!
We never actually broke up.

899
00:40:45,528 --> 00:40:46,969
Things happened,
and things blew up,

900
00:40:47,197 --> 00:40:50,656
But, you know, it's not
what everybody thinks it is.

901
00:40:50,700 --> 00:40:52,157
Thomas:
When the heart is involved,

902
00:40:52,243 --> 00:40:54,476
You can tell them
until they're blue in the face.

903
00:40:54,662 --> 00:40:58,581
They have to have
the aha moment themselves.

904
00:41:00,585 --> 00:41:03,961
Watkins: The thing that was
so crazy about it was,

905
00:41:04,214 --> 00:41:06,830
If one did something,
all of us did something.

906
00:41:07,050 --> 00:41:09,324
If she burnt the house,
we all burnt the house.

907
00:41:09,552 --> 00:41:13,095
And it's scary because
there were people that said,

908
00:41:13,097 --> 00:41:14,705
"your career is over."

909
00:41:14,724 --> 00:41:16,616
Lines didn't want us
to wear their clothes.

910
00:41:16,768 --> 00:41:20,286
They turned on us
like we all were the arsonists.

911
00:41:20,438 --> 00:41:22,622
And we supported lisa
and wasn't mad at her,

912
00:41:22,732 --> 00:41:24,790
And we took the hit
along with her.

913
00:41:24,817 --> 00:41:25,733
Yep.

914
00:41:31,449 --> 00:41:34,525
Tlc cover photo on the November
issue of<i> vibe</i> magazine.

915
00:41:34,744 --> 00:41:36,268
Seems the members
had happily donned

916
00:41:36,412 --> 00:41:37,578
Firemen's suits
for the shoot

917
00:41:37,789 --> 00:41:39,396
And then announced
themselves surprised

918
00:41:39,582 --> 00:41:40,747
When the accompanying headline

919
00:41:40,833 --> 00:41:44,610
Alluded to burning
down the house.

920
00:41:44,754 --> 00:41:48,172
When the pictures
from the photo shoot

921
00:41:48,424 --> 00:41:51,892
Came into the office
for that cover,

922
00:41:52,011 --> 00:41:53,544
I remember being
completely shocked.

923
00:41:53,846 --> 00:42:01,568
I did not understand how anybody
got them to wear those outfits.

924
00:42:01,688 --> 00:42:03,061
No comment on all that
from<i> vibe,</i>

925
00:42:03,147 --> 00:42:04,563
Which reportedly had
the best-selling issue

926
00:42:04,607 --> 00:42:06,407
Of its brief life
with the tlc cover.

927
00:42:06,442 --> 00:42:08,759
[ laughter ]

928
00:42:08,903 --> 00:42:11,328
We're at the photo shoot,

929
00:42:11,447 --> 00:42:12,963
And you guys were getting
your makeup done,

930
00:42:13,116 --> 00:42:14,815
Something was going on.
And I went to look at the,

931
00:42:15,076 --> 00:42:17,343
You know, clothes
or whatever, yeah.
Outfits. "oh."

932
00:42:17,453 --> 00:42:20,346
And, look,
they had police uniforms,

933
00:42:20,498 --> 00:42:22,498
Like, the whole thing,
and the fire ones,

934
00:42:22,792 --> 00:42:24,925
And I remember I grabbed --
I was like, "yo, look."

935
00:42:24,927 --> 00:42:26,936
Remember that? I was like,
"we got to wear these."

936
00:42:27,130 --> 00:42:30,464
And maybe at the time
I was kind of thinking,

937
00:42:30,633 --> 00:42:33,192
But I really was not
thinking-thinking,
right, yeah, yeah, yeah.

938
00:42:33,344 --> 00:42:36,587
That was my fault.
I mean, what I'm saying is --

939
00:42:36,848 --> 00:42:39,307
You were too young to know this,
but they set you up

940
00:42:39,517 --> 00:42:41,375
By even having them
in the room.

941
00:42:41,436 --> 00:42:43,177
Of course they did.
Of course they did.
Yeah, they did.

942
00:42:43,479 --> 00:42:45,871
Yeah, no, they threw out the
bait, and we definitely took it.

943
00:42:46,024 --> 00:42:47,798
But I have to say
it's one of my favorite covers.

944
00:42:47,984 --> 00:42:49,775
I mean, it's an amazing cover.
[ laughs ]

945
00:42:49,819 --> 00:42:51,502
It's an amazing cover.

946
00:42:51,654 --> 00:42:54,179
"burning up the charts
and burning down the house."

947
00:42:54,324 --> 00:42:56,765
Valdés: The November '94 issue
of tlc

948
00:42:56,951 --> 00:42:59,710
Was the biggest-selling issue
that year.

949
00:42:59,829 --> 00:43:03,164
It blew everything
out the water.

950
00:43:03,333 --> 00:43:05,665
The best art is truthful art,

951
00:43:05,752 --> 00:43:07,334
And it wasn't
just lisa's truth.

952
00:43:07,337 --> 00:43:09,378
It was tlc's truth.

953
00:43:09,631 --> 00:43:12,214
It was this sort of cloud
hanging over them,

954
00:43:12,508 --> 00:43:15,292
And they were getting ready
to release an album

955
00:43:15,511 --> 00:43:18,412
That was either going to be
a sophomore jinx

956
00:43:18,598 --> 00:43:20,806
Or it was going to
change the world.

957
00:43:23,019 --> 00:43:25,202
The thing that was
challenging about going in

958
00:43:25,355 --> 00:43:26,704
After "ooooooohhh...
On the tlc tip"

959
00:43:26,856 --> 00:43:29,190
To "crazysexycool" was
you have to figure out

960
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,041
Why they liked you
in the first place.

961
00:43:31,194 --> 00:43:36,663
How do I do that again as well
as evolve and show growth?

962
00:43:36,741 --> 00:43:38,424
Austin:
Let's be taken more serious,

963
00:43:38,618 --> 00:43:39,917
And part of that would be like
to take some of the gimmick out,

964
00:43:40,036 --> 00:43:41,635
Take some of the samples out.

965
00:43:41,829 --> 00:43:44,238
So the song itself has to stand
out and knock people's head off.

966
00:43:44,457 --> 00:43:45,665
And I think "creep"
just set the standard

967
00:43:45,875 --> 00:43:47,591
For what the project
should be like.

968
00:43:47,710 --> 00:43:49,585
The last thing I did
was put the horn sound in.

969
00:43:51,297 --> 00:43:53,238
<i> Yes.</i>
♪ wah, wah-wah ♪

970
00:43:53,441 --> 00:43:54,681
<i> It's me again.</i>

971
00:43:54,842 --> 00:43:57,084
Thomas: It was just like,
"oh, wait, what is this?"

972
00:43:57,261 --> 00:43:58,994
And then when the beat drops.

973
00:43:59,055 --> 00:44:00,270
♪ creep ♪

974
00:44:00,390 --> 00:44:04,842
♪ oh, I, oh, I,
oh, I, baby ♪

975
00:44:05,061 --> 00:44:06,376
Austin: Okay,
this is the next record.

976
00:44:06,562 --> 00:44:07,945
This is what's going
to grow them up.

977
00:44:08,064 --> 00:44:09,997
But I think the first video
was a little dark

978
00:44:10,066 --> 00:44:12,190
And still kind of gimmicky.

979
00:44:12,276 --> 00:44:14,551
Thomas: Yeah, it was
a little rough patch there,

980
00:44:14,696 --> 00:44:16,779
And then we shot it again.

981
00:44:18,741 --> 00:44:20,774
Yes.

982
00:44:20,976 --> 00:44:24,111
It's me again.

983
00:44:24,247 --> 00:44:25,546
And I'm back.

984
00:44:25,581 --> 00:44:27,622
Aha, whoo.

985
00:44:27,625 --> 00:44:28,699
Austin: Oh, wow.

986
00:44:28,918 --> 00:44:30,100
We didn't see them
in that light.

987
00:44:30,253 --> 00:44:32,061
Now they turned into sexy
instead of fun.

988
00:44:32,130 --> 00:44:33,337
♪ so I creep ♪

989
00:44:33,589 --> 00:44:37,107
♪ yeah, just keep it
on the down low ♪

990
00:44:37,260 --> 00:44:42,096
♪ said nobody is
supposed to know ♪

991
00:44:42,348 --> 00:44:45,558
The only thing now is we
got to get a place for lisa.

992
00:44:48,771 --> 00:44:51,713
Lisa came to the studio.
I ain't think of nothing.

993
00:44:51,899 --> 00:44:53,624
She's like,
"because it's called 'creep,'

994
00:44:53,818 --> 00:44:56,493
If I write this rap, andre going
to think that's what I'm doing."

995
00:44:56,612 --> 00:44:58,236
Thomas: She was not feeling
the lyrics

996
00:44:58,281 --> 00:45:00,740
Because she and andre
were together.

997
00:45:03,453 --> 00:45:06,453
Woman: Tlc member lisa lopes
voluntarily entered

998
00:45:06,539 --> 00:45:10,040
An alcohol
rehabilitation program.

999
00:45:10,293 --> 00:45:12,493
I didn't consider
myself an alcoholic.

1000
00:45:12,795 --> 00:45:15,579
The reason why I went through it
is because my lawyer said,

1001
00:45:15,798 --> 00:45:17,672
"you're thinking is what got you
into this mess,

1002
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,260
And our thinking is what's going
to get you out of it."

1003
00:45:22,972 --> 00:45:24,555
I stayed in there for 30 days.

1004
00:45:24,807 --> 00:45:27,265
Maybe around the third week,
they let me out on a pass,

1005
00:45:27,393 --> 00:45:30,811
And it was because I had to
record for the tlc album.

1006
00:45:31,022 --> 00:45:32,604
I missed
the whole middle section.

1007
00:45:32,690 --> 00:45:36,775
So on the way,
I was admiring the streets,

1008
00:45:36,861 --> 00:45:40,037
The buildings, the trees,
the sky, and I looked up.

1009
00:45:40,114 --> 00:45:41,054
There was this rainbow.

1010
00:45:41,157 --> 00:45:42,389
♪ come on ♪

1011
00:45:42,533 --> 00:45:44,541
♪ I seen a rainbow yesterday ♪

1012
00:45:44,660 --> 00:45:46,343
♪ but too many storms
have come and gone ♪

1013
00:45:46,496 --> 00:45:48,453
♪ leaving a trace
of not one god-given ray ♪

1014
00:45:48,539 --> 00:45:50,464
♪ is it because my life
is 10 shades of gray? ♪

1015
00:45:50,541 --> 00:45:51,940
♪ I pray all 10 fade away ♪

1016
00:45:52,126 --> 00:45:53,867
♪ seldom praise him
for the sunny days ♪

1017
00:45:54,086 --> 00:45:55,610
I just started reflecting
on my life

1018
00:45:55,713 --> 00:45:57,420
As if it was a storm.

1019
00:45:57,548 --> 00:46:00,031
♪ the many chances I blew
to bring my life to anew ♪

1020
00:46:00,176 --> 00:46:01,959
Too many storms
have come and gone,

1021
00:46:02,178 --> 00:46:05,696
And they don't even leave
a trace of sunlight.

1022
00:46:05,807 --> 00:46:07,515
I wrote that song
from my heart.

1023
00:46:07,725 --> 00:46:09,474
Y'all can, like,
spread it out, you know,

1024
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,869
And make it sound, like, fly
and stuff like that.

1025
00:46:12,063 --> 00:46:14,462
Austin:
And by the time we got to
"waterfalls," forget about it.

1026
00:46:14,690 --> 00:46:17,148
We knew that now we proved
the sophomore jinx --

1027
00:46:17,235 --> 00:46:19,376
We did even better
than the first time by far.

1028
00:46:19,529 --> 00:46:21,862
Now the girls are considered
real pop stars.

1029
00:46:24,700 --> 00:46:28,560
♪ don't go chasing
waterfalls ♪

1030
00:46:28,704 --> 00:46:30,654
♪ please stick to
the rivers ♪

1031
00:46:30,873 --> 00:46:33,824
♪ and the lakes
that you're used to ♪

1032
00:46:34,043 --> 00:46:36,818
You know you have
something special in the studio.

1033
00:46:37,046 --> 00:46:39,964
So when we finish waterfalls,
we felt it was special.

1034
00:46:40,216 --> 00:46:43,158
♪ but I think
you're moving too fast ♪

1035
00:46:43,386 --> 00:46:46,161
But radio wasn't playing it.
They didn't understand it.

1036
00:46:46,389 --> 00:46:49,682
"don't go chasing waterfalls?
What's this mean?"

1037
00:46:49,892 --> 00:46:51,742
So lisa, when she was doing

1038
00:46:51,894 --> 00:46:54,845
Some of her community service
at laface records,

1039
00:46:55,064 --> 00:46:58,857
She asked about the budget
for a "waterfalls" video.

1040
00:46:58,901 --> 00:47:00,358
Gray: You got to give me
all of Thursday.

1041
00:47:00,444 --> 00:47:03,253
That's the day we're going
to get our close-ups,

1042
00:47:03,322 --> 00:47:04,788
Our beauty shots.

1043
00:47:04,949 --> 00:47:07,349
Watkins: We actually pitched it
to f. Gary gray...

1044
00:47:07,493 --> 00:47:08,742
But you are confined
a little bit.

1045
00:47:08,953 --> 00:47:11,962
...And we told him
exactly our vision.

1046
00:47:12,081 --> 00:47:14,348
See where the scuba guy
is standing?
Yes.

1047
00:47:14,458 --> 00:47:15,833
That's where you guys
will be standing.

1048
00:47:17,420 --> 00:47:19,920
Man:<i> Roll sound. Roll camera.</i>
<i> Here we go.</i>

1049
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:28,995
♪♪

1050
00:47:29,223 --> 00:47:34,317
Watkins: Lisa came up
with traveling through time.

1051
00:47:34,437 --> 00:47:37,187
Thomas: Tionne came up
with the story lines.

1052
00:47:38,733 --> 00:47:42,826
I came up with
the water images.

1053
00:47:42,945 --> 00:47:45,303
The video really brought
the words to life

1054
00:47:45,448 --> 00:47:47,114
And it was almost like
an aha moment.

1055
00:47:47,325 --> 00:47:49,383
Tlc also used
that video session

1056
00:47:49,493 --> 00:47:50,809
To make public service
announcements

1057
00:47:50,953 --> 00:47:52,761
That are aimed
at promoting safe sex,

1058
00:47:52,872 --> 00:47:54,171
According to a new survey,

1059
00:47:54,290 --> 00:47:55,789
Aids is now the leading
cause of death

1060
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,325
Among young people
in this country.

1061
00:47:58,502 --> 00:48:01,027
[ indistinct chanting ]

1062
00:48:01,297 --> 00:48:04,665
Watkins:
We would hear from people
who actually had hiv and aids,

1063
00:48:04,884 --> 00:48:06,366
How we've made a difference
in their lives,

1064
00:48:06,510 --> 00:48:07,635
How we spoke up for them.

1065
00:48:07,803 --> 00:48:09,928
Together: We need action!

1066
00:48:10,056 --> 00:48:13,307
Bellamy: Tlc was always pushing
a message under their music,

1067
00:48:13,476 --> 00:48:14,749
And you're like, "damn."

1068
00:48:14,936 --> 00:48:16,601
And you didn't feel like
they was preaching.

1069
00:48:16,646 --> 00:48:17,645
You just learned it.

1070
00:48:17,813 --> 00:48:19,346
And the winner is...

1071
00:48:19,565 --> 00:48:23,225
♪ don't go chasing
waterfalls ♪

1072
00:48:23,235 --> 00:48:24,835
Tlc, y'all.
"waterfalls!"

1073
00:48:24,987 --> 00:48:27,370
Falls, falls, falls, falls,
falls, falls, falls, falls!

1074
00:48:27,490 --> 00:48:30,432
♪ don't go chasing
waterfalls ♪

1075
00:48:30,576 --> 00:48:32,826
♪ please stick to
the rivers ♪

1076
00:48:32,954 --> 00:48:36,797
Lopes: So here's our list.
Thank you, laface, arista.

1077
00:48:36,832 --> 00:48:38,374
All:
All of our fans.

1078
00:48:38,534 --> 00:48:39,733
Mtv.

1079
00:48:39,735 --> 00:48:42,360
[ cheers and applause ]

1080
00:48:42,505 --> 00:48:44,654
And to the person
who thinks

1081
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:48,592
She deserves the most
thanks anyway, pebbles.

1082
00:48:48,752 --> 00:48:51,862
[ laughter ]

1083
00:48:51,889 --> 00:48:53,230
Thank you.

1084
00:48:53,349 --> 00:48:55,807
I wonder if l.A. Was like,
"what the...?"

1085
00:48:55,851 --> 00:48:58,434
[ laughter ]
that's hilarious.

1086
00:48:58,521 --> 00:49:00,378
Was she gone by then?
Yes.

1087
00:49:00,623 --> 00:49:02,806
That's what I thought.
Yes, she was.

1088
00:49:03,025 --> 00:49:04,658
But she thanked her
anyway.

1089
00:49:04,777 --> 00:49:06,568
But we were obviously
being [bleep]
right.

1090
00:49:06,737 --> 00:49:07,811
Like, we were like...

1091
00:49:07,905 --> 00:49:10,280
[ laughter ]

1092
00:49:12,535 --> 00:49:17,087
We fired pebbles
after our first album.

1093
00:49:17,206 --> 00:49:19,172
And when she was gone,
that's when we had

1094
00:49:19,250 --> 00:49:21,792
Our greatest successes.

1095
00:49:22,044 --> 00:49:25,145
But we had not renegotiated
the contracts.

1096
00:49:25,256 --> 00:49:27,589
The deal that we signed
with pebbles,

1097
00:49:27,717 --> 00:49:31,076
It was the type of deal
that new artists get.

1098
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:32,502
When you're young
and you're hungry,

1099
00:49:32,722 --> 00:49:34,412
You want to get
in this industry,

1100
00:49:34,557 --> 00:49:36,523
You sign immediately.

1101
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,592
Woman: Everybody,
look straight ahead.

1102
00:49:38,728 --> 00:49:40,376
Straight ahead, ladies.

1103
00:49:40,604 --> 00:49:44,248
[ camera shutters clicking,
indistinct shouting ]

1104
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,549
Man: Just won two grammys.
What's up?

1105
00:49:46,551 --> 00:49:49,028
[ indistinct shouting ]

1106
00:49:52,616 --> 00:49:55,034
Thomas: We were frustrated.
Here's all this success.

1107
00:49:55,244 --> 00:49:57,435
We know the album
is doing phenomenal.

1108
00:49:57,621 --> 00:50:01,014
And what do we have
to show for it? Nothing.

1109
00:50:01,250 --> 00:50:04,084
Woman:
Career is not exactly what you
would have wanted it to be.

1110
00:50:04,253 --> 00:50:07,220
What's not on it?

1111
00:50:07,298 --> 00:50:09,047
Step on up.
I'll tell it.

1112
00:50:09,133 --> 00:50:11,716
We're not going to sugarcoat
anything anymore.

1113
00:50:11,761 --> 00:50:14,678
We've been quiet
long enough.
Uh-oh.

1114
00:50:14,930 --> 00:50:18,557
We are the biggest-selling
female group ever.

1115
00:50:20,144 --> 00:50:22,894
10 million albums worldwide.

1116
00:50:22,938 --> 00:50:24,712
We have worked very hard.
Very hard.

1117
00:50:24,940 --> 00:50:28,458
We have been this business
for five years...
Five years.

1118
00:50:28,611 --> 00:50:32,570
...And we are broke
as broke can be.

1119
00:50:32,656 --> 00:50:36,325
And you don't understand
the stress that we're under.

1120
00:50:37,544 --> 00:50:40,337
Man: Hello? Lisa, can you
come on up to the mic?

1121
00:50:40,456 --> 00:50:43,640
10 million albums.
How can you be broke?

1122
00:50:43,793 --> 00:50:46,434
Lopes: Everyone,
get ready to do your math.

1123
00:50:46,462 --> 00:50:49,930
Every time an album gets sold,
tlc gets $0.56.

1124
00:50:50,007 --> 00:50:53,750
So 10 million records,
$5.6 million.

1125
00:50:53,969 --> 00:50:56,436
So laface record had spent
about $3 million

1126
00:50:56,472 --> 00:50:57,504
On the second album.

1127
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,423
Now we have $2.6 million left

1128
00:51:00,643 --> 00:51:02,000
To split between
the three of us.

1129
00:51:02,186 --> 00:51:05,478
You're in about
the 47%, 48% tax bracket,

1130
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,932
So that immediately
gets deducted to $1.3 million.

1131
00:51:09,217 --> 00:51:11,084
Watkins: But when you factor
in all the things

1132
00:51:11,237 --> 00:51:13,219
That we have to pay for,
before you know it,

1133
00:51:13,364 --> 00:51:15,672
You're down to 50,000 a piece.

1134
00:51:15,699 --> 00:51:17,491
Bye, y'all.

1135
00:51:17,701 --> 00:51:19,843
[ applause ]
woman: Congratulations.

1136
00:51:19,995 --> 00:51:22,963
At that time, we had nothing
to lose, you know,

1137
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:24,873
And so --
and we were sick of it

1138
00:51:25,167 --> 00:51:28,126
'cause everybody was
just pointing the finger.

1139
00:51:28,212 --> 00:51:31,221
Thomas: We took control
of our lives. Period.

1140
00:51:31,340 --> 00:51:35,175
We didn't have a manager,
but we did not care.

1141
00:51:35,386 --> 00:51:39,696
Now we can really
move forward.

1142
00:51:39,849 --> 00:51:43,141
We never had good business,
unfortunately,

1143
00:51:43,185 --> 00:51:45,302
And that is one of
the main things

1144
00:51:45,521 --> 00:51:48,571
That bill
brought to the table.

1145
00:51:48,691 --> 00:51:50,273
Diggins:
Hi. I have a quick question.

1146
00:51:50,359 --> 00:51:53,476
I'm just going through
a timeline of everything.

1147
00:51:53,696 --> 00:51:55,145
I knew about
their financial coming in.

1148
00:51:55,364 --> 00:51:58,156
I understood how much money
the record company had made,

1149
00:51:58,242 --> 00:52:00,408
How much money the record
company was charging them

1150
00:52:00,536 --> 00:52:03,920
For things that they probably
shouldn't have charged them for,

1151
00:52:04,039 --> 00:52:08,225
And what their gross
potential was.

1152
00:52:08,377 --> 00:52:12,462
I also knew that their structure
was really bad

1153
00:52:12,715 --> 00:52:16,991
And that if they didn't have
somebody that came in

1154
00:52:17,219 --> 00:52:20,678
And could build not
only a financial structure

1155
00:52:20,723 --> 00:52:22,538
But operational structure,

1156
00:52:22,725 --> 00:52:26,192
They probably wouldn't
get to this next level.

1157
00:52:26,395 --> 00:52:29,104
And I also knew, personally,
that it would change my life.

1158
00:52:30,399 --> 00:52:33,341
Watkins: Bill. Bill. William.
Billy diggins.

1159
00:52:33,444 --> 00:52:35,268
Billy d.
Yep.

1160
00:52:35,487 --> 00:52:37,570
We got a billy d.
We do have a billy d.

1161
00:52:37,656 --> 00:52:40,365
Our very own billy d.
Suave. Yeah.

1162
00:52:40,409 --> 00:52:42,183
I remember when
I was in the hotel room

1163
00:52:42,411 --> 00:52:45,295
And I first met him,
'cause he met us individually.
Yep.

1164
00:52:45,456 --> 00:52:47,447
And I was like, "you sure
you want to work with us?

1165
00:52:47,666 --> 00:52:49,207
'cause we're going to
drive you crazy."

1166
00:52:49,251 --> 00:52:51,776
[ laughs ]
and she was serious.

1167
00:52:51,921 --> 00:52:53,562
And then I, of course,
fell in love.

1168
00:52:53,631 --> 00:52:55,004
And he was like, "yeah."

1169
00:52:55,090 --> 00:52:57,115
I'm like, "boy."
she wasn't lying.

1170
00:52:57,259 --> 00:52:58,708
I felt something
that I had never felt,

1171
00:52:58,928 --> 00:53:01,378
With any other artist
that this was going to be

1172
00:53:01,597 --> 00:53:04,872
An incredible turning point
in our lives.

1173
00:53:05,059 --> 00:53:07,817
When I signed them,
l.A. Reid said to me,

1174
00:53:07,937 --> 00:53:09,770
"they're the closest
that you'll ever get

1175
00:53:10,064 --> 00:53:15,241
To rock 'n' roll from hip-hop
because they are rock 'n' roll."

1176
00:53:15,319 --> 00:53:18,195
And that created
a lot of conflict.

1177
00:53:26,956 --> 00:53:29,172
Oh, my god,
that looks so good.
Smell it.

1178
00:53:29,291 --> 00:53:32,233
Come on over here.
Do a little sniffy-sniff.

1179
00:53:32,461 --> 00:53:33,919
I don't put too much into,
like, the future stuff

1180
00:53:34,171 --> 00:53:35,620
Because they said
we were supposed to already

1181
00:53:35,673 --> 00:53:37,664
Have flying cars and stuff
by now. Like...

1182
00:53:37,883 --> 00:53:39,132
Thomas: I don't want
no flying car.

1183
00:53:39,301 --> 00:53:41,175
I'mma tell you that right now.

1184
00:53:41,178 --> 00:53:42,435
I beg to differ.

1185
00:53:42,513 --> 00:53:44,838
I don't know.
Can you imagine?

1186
00:53:44,974 --> 00:53:46,840
Yes.
I don't know.

1187
00:53:47,017 --> 00:53:48,508
That's all I can do
is imagine.

1188
00:53:48,686 --> 00:53:50,601
Well, your name is tron,
so...

1189
00:53:50,646 --> 00:53:53,096
Exactly.
[ laughs ]

1190
00:53:53,315 --> 00:53:54,564
I want this back.
You want that back?

1191
00:53:54,817 --> 00:53:56,866
Bring it back home.
You heard it here.

1192
00:53:57,027 --> 00:53:59,319
I'm not playing.
You heard it here.
It's going to come.

1193
00:54:02,700 --> 00:54:04,349
Thomas: I got pregnant again
with dallas

1194
00:54:04,576 --> 00:54:08,536
When we went back into
the studio to record "fanmail."

1195
00:54:08,622 --> 00:54:12,215
This time I'm like,
"mnh-mnh. Having it."

1196
00:54:12,334 --> 00:54:14,442
And when I held him in my arms,

1197
00:54:14,670 --> 00:54:19,280
It was just, like,
the most beautiful feeling.

1198
00:54:19,466 --> 00:54:22,401
Once I became a mother,
that was first.

1199
00:54:22,553 --> 00:54:25,136
And I'll be back,
I was telling you, on the 30th,

1200
00:54:25,222 --> 00:54:27,681
For like two days
and then --
August?

1201
00:54:27,850 --> 00:54:29,282
Yes.
Okay.

1202
00:54:29,435 --> 00:54:33,069
And then I'm gone
until it's -- the tour is over.

1203
00:54:33,230 --> 00:54:36,690
Over. Will you come back
for, obviously, kiara's wedding?

1204
00:54:36,900 --> 00:54:38,466
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Go to that.

1205
00:54:38,694 --> 00:54:43,079
The one thing that was important
to me was, when tron grows up,

1206
00:54:43,240 --> 00:54:46,741
He will not be able to say
to me or say to anyone,

1207
00:54:46,744 --> 00:54:48,702
"my mom wasn't there."

1208
00:54:50,873 --> 00:54:52,055
I always say this.
I was like,

1209
00:54:52,207 --> 00:54:55,091
"I was meant to be in tlc
and a mom."

1210
00:54:55,093 --> 00:54:58,211
How are you?

1211
00:54:58,255 --> 00:55:00,346
Once I had tron,
it really put

1212
00:55:00,507 --> 00:55:03,216
The relationship I had
with dallas in perspective.

1213
00:55:03,385 --> 00:55:05,510
Man:
You want to do it later?

1214
00:55:05,554 --> 00:55:07,304
Chill, do you want to
do it later?

1215
00:55:09,391 --> 00:55:12,059
It was clear
that wasn't a functioning,

1216
00:55:12,227 --> 00:55:15,853
Healthy, loving relationship.

1217
00:55:15,898 --> 00:55:17,263
We weren't together anymore,

1218
00:55:17,483 --> 00:55:20,024
But we went on
working with dallas.

1219
00:55:20,069 --> 00:55:21,334
That was -- that was tough.

1220
00:55:21,487 --> 00:55:24,296
But one of the hardest things
during that time

1221
00:55:24,406 --> 00:55:26,206
Was what was happening
in the group.

1222
00:55:26,283 --> 00:55:27,924
What's up?
What's happening, going on

1223
00:55:28,077 --> 00:55:30,960
With you and tlc and the whole
little nine, huh?

1224
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:32,371
There's a lot of things
happening.

1225
00:55:32,623 --> 00:55:34,330
I have left out productions,
which is my own thing,

1226
00:55:34,458 --> 00:55:37,084
Which I have groups
that are signed to sony...
Ooh, word.

1227
00:55:37,294 --> 00:55:38,768
...Which will be
coming out this year.

1228
00:55:38,921 --> 00:55:41,971
Tlc is in the studio.
Will be out very soon.

1229
00:55:42,091 --> 00:55:44,758
Let me see. T-boz is acting.
Chilli just had a baby.

1230
00:55:44,968 --> 00:55:46,943
So very, very busy.
Busy women.

1231
00:55:47,012 --> 00:55:48,386
Everybody's busy,
huh?

1232
00:55:48,472 --> 00:55:49,887
So -- but you're doing
your thing, though.

1233
00:55:49,973 --> 00:55:53,983
That's what's
most important.
Always.

1234
00:55:54,103 --> 00:55:55,985
When I came into
their life,

1235
00:55:56,105 --> 00:55:58,896
Left eye was
much more difficult.

1236
00:55:58,982 --> 00:56:00,941
She didn't feel her voice
was being heard

1237
00:56:01,110 --> 00:56:02,992
And wanted to express it.

1238
00:56:03,112 --> 00:56:05,128
Now, I heard that dallas austin,
your producer,

1239
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:06,721
You guys may not be working
with him this time.

1240
00:56:06,949 --> 00:56:08,815
Is that still up in the air,
or what's going on with that?

1241
00:56:09,076 --> 00:56:11,726
That is true. That is still
up in the air, you know?

1242
00:56:11,954 --> 00:56:15,122
Thomas: Lisa and dallas
really weren't getting along.

1243
00:56:20,462 --> 00:56:23,921
She got mad. "y'all don't
respect my creative opinion."

1244
00:56:24,007 --> 00:56:25,507
And she came in
and did a couple of songs,

1245
00:56:25,801 --> 00:56:28,126
But he didn't see her
through the whole record.

1246
00:56:28,178 --> 00:56:30,761
Wherever she was creatively
with her raps,

1247
00:56:30,806 --> 00:56:32,413
The things she wanted
to talk about...

1248
00:56:32,641 --> 00:56:36,025
It just didn't match
with what he was producing.

1249
00:56:36,186 --> 00:56:39,028
Thomas: Ultimately,
it's our decision as a group.

1250
00:56:39,148 --> 00:56:40,697
Okay.
This is
the b-roll people.

1251
00:56:40,816 --> 00:56:44,033
[ speaks indistinctly ]
oh, yeah. Okay.

1252
00:56:44,194 --> 00:56:47,821
There was internal conflict
with left eye at that point.

1253
00:56:49,032 --> 00:56:53,851
I would describe lisa as
an incredibly creative person.

1254
00:56:54,037 --> 00:56:57,913
What made tlc so great
is you have three forces

1255
00:56:58,041 --> 00:57:01,384
That are equally talented,
each in their own right.

1256
00:57:01,545 --> 00:57:03,961
Man: Who came up with the title
"fanmail" for your new album?

1257
00:57:04,006 --> 00:57:06,113
Bam! Left eye.
[ laughs ]

1258
00:57:06,341 --> 00:57:08,950
She comes up with all the titles
for the albums.

1259
00:57:09,136 --> 00:57:10,618
Lopes: Usually I'm riding down
the street,

1260
00:57:10,846 --> 00:57:12,261
Not even thinking
about tlc...
Man: And just boom.

1261
00:57:12,347 --> 00:57:15,315
And something just goes
"fanmail," you know?

1262
00:57:15,350 --> 00:57:16,733
[ laughter ]

1263
00:57:16,768 --> 00:57:20,978
♪♪

1264
00:57:21,023 --> 00:57:22,497
Thomas: Hello? Hey.

1265
00:57:22,691 --> 00:57:25,400
I just heard the new intro
for the first time.

1266
00:57:26,778 --> 00:57:29,654
I mean, it's got, like,
the entire verse.

1267
00:57:29,865 --> 00:57:31,339
It doesn't need to be
the whole rap.

1268
00:57:31,533 --> 00:57:33,399
It's just bits and pieces of it.
You see what I'm saying?

1269
00:57:33,577 --> 00:57:36,069
To accent what's going on
with the beat.

1270
00:57:36,205 --> 00:57:37,913
It's about the beat.

1271
00:57:42,961 --> 00:57:45,212
Okay.

1272
00:57:45,372 --> 00:57:46,379
Okay.

1273
00:57:46,590 --> 00:57:48,464
Tell him he needs
to step up his game.

1274
00:57:48,550 --> 00:57:49,949
Like,
keep it like it was.

1275
00:57:50,093 --> 00:57:52,101
Come on.
He's going downhill.

1276
00:57:52,221 --> 00:57:54,512
Unh-unh. Yeah.
Unh, unh, unh.

1277
00:57:54,556 --> 00:57:57,023
Unh-unh.
Y'all are doing it all wrong.

1278
00:57:57,100 --> 00:58:00,351
We need it immediately.
Call me back.

1279
00:58:00,395 --> 00:58:02,111
I'll have my phone
right next to me.

1280
00:58:02,231 --> 00:58:03,563
We'll just
get this groove.

1281
00:58:03,815 --> 00:58:05,981
I'm taking a deep breath
and I'm coming down,

1282
00:58:06,068 --> 00:58:07,467
So I'm gonna...
[ exhales deeply ]

1283
00:58:07,469 --> 00:58:09,885
She's rolling her chest
that way.

1284
00:58:10,072 --> 00:58:13,273
Yeah, that's it.
Now y'all got it.

1285
00:58:13,516 --> 00:58:15,041
-Come on, y'all.
-Right.

1286
00:58:15,202 --> 00:58:18,386
Quickly. So, basically,
this song is for the ladies.

1287
00:58:18,580 --> 00:58:23,250
Just an extra reminder
to stay away from a what?

1288
00:58:23,418 --> 00:58:24,417
All: Scrubs!

1289
00:58:24,628 --> 00:58:26,286
Watkins: And then
that'll be your cue.

1290
00:58:26,463 --> 00:58:27,970
Uh-huh.
Thomas: C'mon.

1291
00:58:28,090 --> 00:58:30,807
[ intro to "no scrubs" playing ]

1292
00:58:30,926 --> 00:58:33,467
♪ and is also known as a busta ♪

1293
00:58:33,554 --> 00:58:35,728
♪ always talkin' about
what he wants ♪

1294
00:58:35,806 --> 00:58:37,814
♪ and just sits
on his broke... ♪

1295
00:58:37,933 --> 00:58:41,317
♪ so, no, I don't
want your number ♪

1296
00:58:41,436 --> 00:58:43,395
♪ no, I don't wanna
give you mine ♪

1297
00:58:43,772 --> 00:58:46,472
♪ and, no, I don't wanna
meet you nowhere ♪
[ man shouting indistinctly ]

1298
00:58:46,692 --> 00:58:48,625
♪ no, I don't want
none of your time ♪

1299
00:58:48,777 --> 00:58:51,244
♪ and, no,
I don't want no scrub ♪

1300
00:58:51,405 --> 00:58:54,089
♪ a scrub is a guy that
can't get no love from me ♪

1301
00:58:54,241 --> 00:58:57,075
Hey! Lights in.
Lights out. Lights out.

1302
00:58:57,327 --> 00:59:00,169
Thomas: "scrubs" was
an automatic go with radio.

1303
00:59:00,289 --> 00:59:02,772
And then, when the video
came out, it took off.

1304
00:59:02,833 --> 00:59:05,792
♪ hangin' out the passenger side
of his best friend's ride ♪

1305
00:59:05,961 --> 00:59:08,018
♪ tryin' to holla at me ♪

1306
00:59:08,020 --> 00:59:10,321
Valdés: Me, as a woman,
I had my life together.

1307
00:59:10,465 --> 00:59:13,233
I had a job.
I'm going places.

1308
00:59:13,302 --> 00:59:14,950
And if you are gonna step to me,

1309
00:59:15,137 --> 00:59:18,388
Just make sure
that you are on the same level.

1310
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:20,523
There were some dudes who didn't
even know they was a scrub,

1311
00:59:20,642 --> 00:59:22,267
Be like, "damn,
I think I'm a scrub."

1312
00:59:22,477 --> 00:59:23,559
♪ of his best friend's ride ♪

1313
00:59:23,604 --> 00:59:24,644
"I might be scrubbing."

1314
00:59:24,813 --> 00:59:25,645
♪ if you don't have a car ♪

1315
00:59:25,814 --> 00:59:26,646
♪ and you're walkin' ♪

1316
00:59:26,815 --> 00:59:28,148
♪ oh, yes, son ♪

1317
00:59:28,317 --> 00:59:29,699
♪ I'm talkin' to you ♪

1318
00:59:29,776 --> 00:59:30,675
♪ if you live at home ♪

1319
00:59:30,819 --> 00:59:31,676
♪ with your mama ♪

1320
00:59:31,820 --> 00:59:33,186
We started some junk.

1321
00:59:33,363 --> 00:59:34,937
I'm telling you,
we have --

1322
00:59:35,157 --> 00:59:37,657
We want guys --
almost like a-a war.

1323
00:59:37,826 --> 00:59:39,326
♪ I don't want no pigeons ♪

1324
00:59:39,578 --> 00:59:42,362
♪ them be them girls
who gets no dubs from me ♪

1325
00:59:42,539 --> 00:59:43,938
Only the scrubs are upset.

1326
00:59:44,041 --> 00:59:45,381
♪ I don't want no ♪

1327
00:59:45,583 --> 00:59:49,786
♪ no scrub ♪

1328
00:59:49,963 --> 00:59:52,963
Richards:
And the winner is tlc.

1329
00:59:53,008 --> 00:59:55,408
[ cheers and applause ]
yeah.

1330
00:59:55,636 --> 00:59:58,194
♪ a scrub is a guy that can't
get no love from me ♪

1331
00:59:58,347 --> 01:00:00,847
Once again, we want to thank
the fans for embracing us.

1332
01:00:01,058 --> 01:00:03,641
We've been gone
for such a long time.

1333
01:00:03,685 --> 01:00:05,902
We thank you.
We appreciate this.

1334
01:00:06,021 --> 01:00:10,907
[ cheers and applause continue ]

1335
01:00:10,942 --> 01:00:17,163
♪♪

1336
01:00:17,365 --> 01:00:23,319
♪♪

1337
01:00:23,479 --> 01:00:26,055
[ whirring ]

1338
01:00:26,124 --> 01:00:27,457
[ beep ]
doctor: Alright.

1339
01:00:27,668 --> 01:00:29,258
And so,
we're looking at your hip,

1340
01:00:29,419 --> 01:00:31,644
Your knee, and your foot today,
all on the right side.

1341
01:00:31,755 --> 01:00:34,363
Mm-hmm. I have
a torn meniscus, I know.

1342
01:00:34,549 --> 01:00:36,782
But two-and-a-half
years ago or so,

1343
01:00:36,802 --> 01:00:38,426
I did the cortisone shots.
Uh-huh.

1344
01:00:38,637 --> 01:00:40,261
That lasted me until now.

1345
01:00:40,555 --> 01:00:43,523
But when I had a crisis
about a week and a half ago,

1346
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:45,666
It just won't
totally go away.

1347
01:00:45,769 --> 01:00:47,001
A sickle cell crisis?

1348
01:00:47,104 --> 01:00:48,519
Yeah.
Yeah. Okay.

1349
01:00:48,605 --> 01:00:51,355
If the shot worked that well
for you last time,

1350
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:52,673
I would say
we do that again.

1351
01:00:52,859 --> 01:00:55,451
And I have to dance
in a show Saturday,

1352
01:00:55,570 --> 01:00:57,821
So can I get it
once I'm done with this show?

1353
01:00:58,031 --> 01:01:00,289
Yeah.
So, look at your schedule

1354
01:01:00,409 --> 01:01:02,133
And let us know
when would be a good time,

1355
01:01:02,327 --> 01:01:04,110
And we can schedule you
to come back and do the shot.

1356
01:01:04,246 --> 01:01:05,953
Okay.

1357
01:01:05,956 --> 01:01:07,129
[ machinery humming ]

1358
01:01:07,249 --> 01:01:09,249
Scoot to the right
just a bit more.

1359
01:01:13,296 --> 01:01:15,630
♪♪

1360
01:01:25,976 --> 01:01:27,726
Whose house?
All: Gab's house.

1361
01:01:27,969 --> 01:01:30,319
Whose house?
Gab's house.

1362
01:01:30,397 --> 01:01:32,638
Eat gab's.
[ laughs ]

1363
01:01:32,816 --> 01:01:34,548
Watkins:
Can I have that one fry?

1364
01:01:34,776 --> 01:01:38,069
I'm a person who has a lot
of dreams and aspirations.

1365
01:01:39,156 --> 01:01:42,048
Gab's, better known
as good as burger.

1366
01:01:42,117 --> 01:01:44,117
We are a vegan burger joint.

1367
01:01:44,286 --> 01:01:47,169
[ laughter ]
ay! Ay! Ay!

1368
01:01:47,247 --> 01:01:50,740
We are a black-owned
family business.

1369
01:01:50,834 --> 01:01:52,525
♪♪

1370
01:01:52,669 --> 01:01:55,503
I've always wanted a restaurant.

1371
01:01:55,714 --> 01:01:57,522
And we are very successful.

1372
01:01:57,632 --> 01:01:59,749
[ indistinct conversation ]

1373
01:01:59,909 --> 01:02:04,153
♪♪

1374
01:02:04,222 --> 01:02:06,473
Come at it, girl.

1375
01:02:06,641 --> 01:02:07,807
Oh, na, na.

1376
01:02:09,811 --> 01:02:12,436
I like diy projects.

1377
01:02:12,481 --> 01:02:14,697
It's stress-relieving
for me, too.

1378
01:02:14,816 --> 01:02:16,483
And, you know,
with my sickle cell,

1379
01:02:16,777 --> 01:02:20,928
The number-one thing you're not
supposed to be is stressed.

1380
01:02:21,031 --> 01:02:22,697
I need a pen.

1381
01:02:26,870 --> 01:02:30,279
[<i> mid-tempo r&b music playing</i> ]

1382
01:02:30,373 --> 01:02:36,185
[ humming ]

1383
01:02:36,213 --> 01:02:41,557
♪♪

1384
01:02:41,635 --> 01:02:43,151
[ music stops ]
hm.

1385
01:02:43,303 --> 01:02:45,194
So, everyone has
a different way of working.

1386
01:02:45,347 --> 01:02:49,532
Like, sometimes I'll come up
with a subject matter

1387
01:02:49,684 --> 01:02:52,643
Or song that I know
I want to write about.

1388
01:02:52,687 --> 01:02:55,963
I'm good at telling stories,

1389
01:02:56,191 --> 01:02:59,392
And these songs are kind of like
a soundtrack to my life.

1390
01:02:59,569 --> 01:03:01,711
[ intro to "unpretty" playing ]

1391
01:03:01,738 --> 01:03:06,065
♪♪

1392
01:03:06,284 --> 01:03:10,053
♪ I wish I could
tie you up in my shoes ♪

1393
01:03:10,163 --> 01:03:12,496
♪ make you feel unpretty, too ♪

1394
01:03:12,582 --> 01:03:14,574
Reporter: We're on the set
of the tlc video,

1395
01:03:14,751 --> 01:03:16,726
And with me
are the girls.

1396
01:03:16,753 --> 01:03:17,651
Hello!

1397
01:03:17,754 --> 01:03:18,878
Hello.
Hi.

1398
01:03:19,089 --> 01:03:21,322
Now, how did "unpretty"
come to light?

1399
01:03:21,424 --> 01:03:22,549
Tionne gave birth to it.

1400
01:03:22,717 --> 01:03:24,008
[ chuckles ]

1401
01:03:24,094 --> 01:03:27,177
"unpretty" was
my first song to write on.

1402
01:03:27,264 --> 01:03:28,829
I had just got out the hospital.
[ coughs ]

1403
01:03:28,974 --> 01:03:30,748
I was poked and prodded on

1404
01:03:30,892 --> 01:03:33,275
From the iv,
then the blood draws.

1405
01:03:33,395 --> 01:03:35,261
My boyfriend at the time,
he didn't get it.

1406
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:39,065
♪ be in the position to make me
feel so ♪

1407
01:03:39,267 --> 01:03:41,701
♪ damn unpretty ♪

1408
01:03:41,703 --> 01:03:42,927
"unpretty" up for
song of the year.

1409
01:03:43,071 --> 01:03:44,862
This song really spoke
to teenage girls

1410
01:03:44,906 --> 01:03:47,490
Who just try so hard
to fit in and don't.

1411
01:03:47,742 --> 01:03:50,184
Woman: Magazines are now
replacing healthier models

1412
01:03:50,412 --> 01:03:53,796
With waifs, women with
apparently no body fat.

1413
01:03:53,915 --> 01:03:56,523
And how is the skinny look
affecting young girls?

1414
01:03:56,710 --> 01:03:58,084
Watkins: Society has a way
of making people

1415
01:03:58,336 --> 01:03:59,852
Feel like they're
not good enough to fit in.

1416
01:04:00,005 --> 01:04:03,072
Everyone, from women to men,
at some point in time

1417
01:04:03,258 --> 01:04:05,507
In their life,
has felt unpretty.

1418
01:04:05,594 --> 01:04:09,629
♪ I'll make you feel unpretty,
too ♪

1419
01:04:09,931 --> 01:04:12,314
Valdés: For black and brown
women to discuss these things

1420
01:04:12,434 --> 01:04:14,617
And feeling the pressure
to look a certain way,

1421
01:04:14,769 --> 01:04:17,644
I think that song
helped a lot of women

1422
01:04:17,772 --> 01:04:22,475
Recognize that their beauty
really is about individuality,

1423
01:04:22,652 --> 01:04:24,477
And that's the power of music.

1424
01:04:24,613 --> 01:04:25,552
♪ oh, oh ♪

1425
01:04:25,655 --> 01:04:27,480
Man: The 1999 recipients

1426
01:04:27,657 --> 01:04:29,406
Of the aretha franklin award --

1427
01:04:29,408 --> 01:04:30,599
Tlc.

1428
01:04:30,601 --> 01:04:32,017
[ cheers and applause ]

1429
01:04:32,203 --> 01:04:34,620
Lopes: Before we leave
this podium,

1430
01:04:34,706 --> 01:04:36,480
I would like to take
the opportunity

1431
01:04:36,666 --> 01:04:40,417
To thank two very important
people in my life.

1432
01:04:40,462 --> 01:04:43,046
And that is
tionne and chilli.

1433
01:04:43,206 --> 01:04:44,838
[ laughter ]

1434
01:04:44,925 --> 01:04:47,917
Oh, this is
the infamous hug.
Uh-huh.

1435
01:04:48,077 --> 01:04:48,834
Oh, my god.

1436
01:04:49,012 --> 01:04:52,171
[ cheers and applause ]

1437
01:04:52,349 --> 01:04:55,007
I love this.
I started crying.

1438
01:04:55,009 --> 01:04:56,576
Aah!
You were a little softy.

1439
01:04:56,686 --> 01:04:57,684
Announcer:
<i> ...Sultry lady of soul...</i>

1440
01:04:57,687 --> 01:04:59,095
I'm about to cry now!

1441
01:04:59,230 --> 01:05:00,604
[ both laugh ]

1442
01:05:00,649 --> 01:05:02,272
<i> ...Sisqó and natalie cole.</i>

1443
01:05:02,359 --> 01:05:04,033
To see us together
like that...
Like that.

1444
01:05:04,194 --> 01:05:07,277
...Happy and loving each other,
nobody's fussing or mad...

1445
01:05:07,530 --> 01:05:10,239
It symbolizes the good times,
our fun times...
When you get to see it,
it's like, "[gasps] whoo."

1446
01:05:10,525 --> 01:05:12,057
...Our happy times.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

1447
01:05:12,243 --> 01:05:16,420
Gonna mess up my lashes.
[ laughs ]

1448
01:05:16,422 --> 01:05:19,373
Because neither one of us knew
what she was gonna say.

1449
01:05:19,376 --> 01:05:20,667
Mnh-mnh.
It was like,

1450
01:05:20,910 --> 01:05:22,935
"so, like, what is --
okay, who are

1451
01:05:23,088 --> 01:05:25,213
These two people
she's about to say?"
yeah.

1452
01:05:25,423 --> 01:05:26,864
And, like,
"oh, my god!"

1453
01:05:27,108 --> 01:05:30,626
So, that was --
that was so special.

1454
01:05:30,845 --> 01:05:32,845
[ paparazzi clamoring,
camera shutters clicking ]

1455
01:05:33,014 --> 01:05:35,723
Woman: How does it feel to have
made such an awesome comeback?

1456
01:05:35,976 --> 01:05:37,566
It feels great.
Feels good.
Feels right.

1457
01:05:37,686 --> 01:05:39,051
Thomas: It was like
a roller coaster,

1458
01:05:39,312 --> 01:05:41,637
Because "scrubs" was great,
"unpretty" was great.

1459
01:05:41,856 --> 01:05:44,223
It was so much fun,
and "here we go."

1460
01:05:44,359 --> 01:05:47,819
♪♪

1461
01:05:48,071 --> 01:05:51,138
Lopes:<i> I can't stand 100% behind</i>
<i> this tlc project</i>

1462
01:05:51,366 --> 01:05:53,474
<i> And the music that's supposed</i>
<i> to represent me --</i>

1463
01:05:53,576 --> 01:05:54,926
<i> And the group.</i>

1464
01:05:55,078 --> 01:05:56,660
Well, actually,
I didn't express interest

1465
01:05:56,705 --> 01:05:58,304
In cutting out on the group.

1466
01:05:58,498 --> 01:06:01,040
I just said that I couldn't
100% stand behind this project.

1467
01:06:01,251 --> 01:06:02,758
And I still stand behind
that statement.

1468
01:06:02,919 --> 01:06:04,877
This is my favorite album.
My favorite album, too.

1469
01:06:05,046 --> 01:06:06,078
Yeah, by far.

1470
01:06:06,256 --> 01:06:08,989
My favorite album
was "crazysexycool."

1471
01:06:09,092 --> 01:06:10,666
Daly: October 27th,

1472
01:06:10,885 --> 01:06:14,303
Tlc will kick off their
first us headline tour.

1473
01:06:14,597 --> 01:06:18,098
Diggins: They had never toured
on their own in an arena tour.

1474
01:06:18,226 --> 01:06:21,510
It was very tough,
because the headlines weren't

1475
01:06:21,730 --> 01:06:23,437
Tlc going out on
their first tour

1476
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:24,855
As tlc splitting up.

1477
01:06:24,941 --> 01:06:27,183
We are one short.
We're missing the "l" in tlc,

1478
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:28,851
Left eye.
She okay?

1479
01:06:29,112 --> 01:06:32,037
All I have to say is
imodium a-d. Put it together.

1480
01:06:32,073 --> 01:06:36,092
[ laughter ]

1481
01:06:36,244 --> 01:06:39,095
Okay.
I cannot believe
you just said that.

1482
01:06:39,247 --> 01:06:42,415
By that time, things had
really started to deteriorate

1483
01:06:42,625 --> 01:06:44,700
Between the girls
and the relationships.

1484
01:06:44,961 --> 01:06:49,555
And I think some of the magic
started to dissipate.

1485
01:06:49,591 --> 01:06:50,631
Man: Three, two, one.

1486
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:52,625
Thank you.
Whoo!

1487
01:06:52,927 --> 01:06:54,135
Watkins and thomas:
Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you.

1488
01:06:54,387 --> 01:06:56,061
Thank you!
Thank you so much
for watching.

1489
01:06:56,181 --> 01:06:58,889
Hope you enjoyed it,
and see you next time.

1490
01:06:58,933 --> 01:07:00,424
Come back again.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1491
01:07:00,477 --> 01:07:02,559
And we'll be back.
Right, right, right, right.

1492
01:07:02,604 --> 01:07:04,102
Don't be wack.
That was wack.

1493
01:07:04,230 --> 01:07:06,105
Austin: She started feeling
a little bit weighed down

1494
01:07:06,274 --> 01:07:07,990
By the niceness of tlc.

1495
01:07:07,992 --> 01:07:09,650
Some of the other stuff
rappers were doing in general,

1496
01:07:09,903 --> 01:07:11,169
It started to make
her feel like, "okay,

1497
01:07:11,279 --> 01:07:12,779
I'm not just a pop-y rapper.

1498
01:07:12,947 --> 01:07:13,913
I'm supposed to be a rapper."

1499
01:07:13,990 --> 01:07:15,364
[ lopes speaking indistinctly ]

1500
01:07:15,617 --> 01:07:17,808
Watkins: She was acting like
she didn't know us.

1501
01:07:17,994 --> 01:07:20,052
How are we supposed
to fight against the world

1502
01:07:20,121 --> 01:07:21,587
If we're fighting internally?

1503
01:07:21,623 --> 01:07:23,505
That didn't make sense to us.

1504
01:07:23,541 --> 01:07:25,249
[ cheers and applause ]

1505
01:07:25,376 --> 01:07:30,429
Now, I feel like there's a lot
of love in this house tonight.

1506
01:07:30,548 --> 01:07:32,823
And I want y'all to know
that it ain't nothing

1507
01:07:33,009 --> 01:07:37,427
But positive energy
on this stage here tonight.

1508
01:07:37,472 --> 01:07:39,488
Hope y'all enjoyed the show,

1509
01:07:39,641 --> 01:07:44,393
And I need y'all to know
that tlc is forever...

1510
01:07:44,562 --> 01:07:47,396
Baby, baby, baby.

1511
01:07:47,557 --> 01:07:50,007
♪♪

1512
01:07:50,193 --> 01:07:52,426
Reporter: What did it take
to get you guys happy

1513
01:07:52,529 --> 01:07:53,486
With each other again?

1514
01:07:53,655 --> 01:07:56,780
We are sisters,
you know,

1515
01:07:56,825 --> 01:07:58,540
And I don't care
what happens between us.

1516
01:07:58,660 --> 01:08:01,377
We've been through
too much stuff.

1517
01:08:01,496 --> 01:08:03,529
Thomas: It never changed
our love for her,

1518
01:08:03,748 --> 01:08:06,215
Because you can
never change that.

1519
01:08:06,417 --> 01:08:10,703
No matter what we went through,
we never questioned the love.

1520
01:08:11,005 --> 01:08:13,055
Reporter:
You came out last night
and you said, "tlc forever."

1521
01:08:13,216 --> 01:08:14,674
Is that what you said
when you hit the stage?
Mm-hmm.

1522
01:08:14,926 --> 01:08:17,559
What did that mean to you?
Well, you know what?

1523
01:08:17,637 --> 01:08:19,395
I have never,
ever said

1524
01:08:19,514 --> 01:08:21,681
That I was leaving
this group, you know?

1525
01:08:21,891 --> 01:08:23,790
So I just like to
reiterate that sometimes

1526
01:08:24,018 --> 01:08:26,135
And let everyone know that,
even if we do fight,

1527
01:08:26,354 --> 01:08:28,855
You know, even if we can't
stand each other,

1528
01:08:29,098 --> 01:08:30,639
It's a good business move
just to stay

1529
01:08:30,859 --> 01:08:33,042
In a group of anything,
you know?

1530
01:08:33,069 --> 01:08:34,377
[ laughter ]

1531
01:08:34,445 --> 01:08:36,696
But, yeah,
tlc forever.

1532
01:08:36,865 --> 01:08:39,632
Woman: I love you!

1533
01:08:39,784 --> 01:08:41,642
Diggins: Eventually,
left eye turned around

1534
01:08:41,844 --> 01:08:43,168
On the January tour.

1535
01:08:43,246 --> 01:08:45,421
She really understood it,

1536
01:08:45,540 --> 01:08:48,340
And it was sold out everywhere.

1537
01:08:48,459 --> 01:08:51,210
It's a letter.
Looky, looky here.

1538
01:08:51,379 --> 01:08:52,378
The fan mail, y'all.

1539
01:08:52,547 --> 01:08:53,795
We have
a bag of fan mail

1540
01:08:53,882 --> 01:08:55,856
That just showed up
on the stage.

1541
01:08:56,017 --> 01:08:57,758
T-shirts!

1542
01:08:57,760 --> 01:08:58,834
Diggins: It was great.

1543
01:08:59,053 --> 01:09:02,889
It was
a really successful project.

1544
01:09:03,057 --> 01:09:04,514
And then it ended.

1545
01:09:04,601 --> 01:09:09,353
In January of 2000,
that was the last tour

1546
01:09:09,397 --> 01:09:11,947
That the three of them
did together.

1547
01:09:11,983 --> 01:09:15,443
♪♪

1548
01:09:21,409 --> 01:09:23,533
Tlc, one of the most successful
pop acts

1549
01:09:23,578 --> 01:09:25,202
To ever file for bankruptcy,

1550
01:09:25,288 --> 01:09:27,405
Have been taking some time
out of the limelight.

1551
01:09:27,457 --> 01:09:29,782
T-boz has gotten hitched
and is having a baby girl.

1552
01:09:29,918 --> 01:09:31,392
Chilli told mtv news recently

1553
01:09:31,586 --> 01:09:33,936
That she's putting her
solo plans on hold for a while

1554
01:09:34,088 --> 01:09:36,713
So she can concentrate
on the next tlc project.

1555
01:09:36,799 --> 01:09:38,941
Lopes has almost completed
her first solo album,

1556
01:09:39,093 --> 01:09:41,977
Which will dance its way
into stores on August 16th.

1557
01:09:42,096 --> 01:09:45,164
♪ cherry, cherry ♪
sing it, girl.

1558
01:09:45,166 --> 01:09:46,398
♪ girl, you know you're fine ♪

1559
01:09:46,434 --> 01:09:47,582
"supernova,"

1560
01:09:47,769 --> 01:09:50,752
That is my debut album
as a solo artist.

1561
01:09:50,754 --> 01:09:53,063
A supernova is a rare star

1562
01:09:53,191 --> 01:09:57,793
That increases up to a billion
times its normal shine.

1563
01:09:57,987 --> 01:10:01,163
And it's pretty much saying that
there's no such thing as death.

1564
01:10:01,324 --> 01:10:05,985
We can call it transforming,
for better lack of words.

1565
01:10:06,162 --> 01:10:08,837
So, I'm on a 40-day fast.

1566
01:10:08,957 --> 01:10:12,916
I feel like I'm
on a journey sometimes.

1567
01:10:13,002 --> 01:10:17,596
Don't really know
quite where I'm headed.

1568
01:10:17,632 --> 01:10:19,548
[ airplane engine roaring ]

1569
01:10:23,972 --> 01:10:25,254
I hope that, you know,
in a month,

1570
01:10:25,431 --> 01:10:26,889
We see some major changes,

1571
01:10:27,141 --> 01:10:29,308
Because that's what this trip
is all about,

1572
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:32,602
Coming here and
getting this stuff on tape

1573
01:10:32,689 --> 01:10:36,940
So you can see what
30 days in the bush

1574
01:10:36,943 --> 01:10:38,234
Can do for you.

1575
01:10:51,708 --> 01:10:54,767
We begin tonight with
tragic news of a life cut short.

1576
01:10:54,877 --> 01:10:57,377
Tlc band member
lisa "left eye" lopes

1577
01:10:57,505 --> 01:11:01,131
Was killed last night in
a car crash in central america.

1578
01:11:01,175 --> 01:11:02,591
It happened in honduras.

1579
01:11:02,885 --> 01:11:06,478
Authorities say she lost control
of a rented suv she was driving.

1580
01:11:06,639 --> 01:11:11,633
They also say seven other people
in the car were injured.

1581
01:11:11,894 --> 01:11:14,628
The women who considered lisa,
quite simply, their sister,

1582
01:11:14,772 --> 01:11:16,772
T-boz and chilli from tlc,

1583
01:11:17,025 --> 01:11:18,323
And they join us
on the phone right now.

1584
01:11:18,401 --> 01:11:21,067
Ladies...
[<i> woman sobbing</i> ]

1585
01:11:21,154 --> 01:11:26,181
...Please -- please accept
our condolences.

1586
01:11:26,367 --> 01:11:28,884
And thank you for joining us.

1587
01:11:29,037 --> 01:11:31,920
Thomas:<i> But, yeah,</i>
<i> it's our sister.</i>

1588
01:11:31,956 --> 01:11:33,330
<i> We are sisters.</i>

1589
01:11:33,416 --> 01:11:36,191
<i> We've been together</i>
<i> for over 10 years.</i>

1590
01:11:36,377 --> 01:11:39,495
I can't imagine
how hard it is for you guys

1591
01:11:39,672 --> 01:11:41,439
To not only be
dealing with this,

1592
01:11:41,549 --> 01:11:43,348
But to call in
and talk to us about it.

1593
01:11:43,551 --> 01:11:45,700
And we certainly appreciate it,
and best of luck in the future,

1594
01:11:45,845 --> 01:11:47,820
Whatever happens, okay?

1595
01:11:47,980 --> 01:11:50,189
♪♪

1596
01:11:50,308 --> 01:11:53,059
At first, it didn't hit me
because lisa,

1597
01:11:53,269 --> 01:11:56,195
She was always,
you know, doing stuff --

1598
01:11:56,230 --> 01:11:57,613
Pranking or whatever.

1599
01:11:57,732 --> 01:11:59,081
You know, she's got...
She had just did a prank.

1600
01:11:59,233 --> 01:12:01,917
Yeah, she was missing
for however long,

1601
01:12:02,070 --> 01:12:04,027
But she really --
you know, she was okay.

1602
01:12:04,113 --> 01:12:09,199
And so I was hoping that
that was one of those times.

1603
01:12:09,327 --> 01:12:12,161
One of her jokes.
You know, and when
bill was very serious

1604
01:12:12,413 --> 01:12:15,380
And I could hear his voice
cracking and everything,

1605
01:12:15,416 --> 01:12:16,749
That's when I knew.

1606
01:12:16,959 --> 01:12:18,608
And, I mean, I just --
I just lost it.

1607
01:12:18,711 --> 01:12:20,144
I don't even...

1608
01:12:20,254 --> 01:12:24,206
Man, that hit
like a brick.
Yeah.

1609
01:12:24,467 --> 01:12:27,093
Like,
when she called me...
Yeah, 'cause I called you.

1610
01:12:27,261 --> 01:12:28,535
I was hysterical.

1611
01:12:28,763 --> 01:12:31,388
...And I couldn't make out
anything she was saying,

1612
01:12:31,474 --> 01:12:35,600
But I heard "lisa,"
and my heart fell to my toes.

1613
01:12:35,603 --> 01:12:40,973
♪♪

1614
01:12:41,150 --> 01:12:42,908
Right before lisa passed,

1615
01:12:42,985 --> 01:12:44,885
I was in the hospital
for four months,

1616
01:12:44,987 --> 01:12:46,245
Fighting for my life.

1617
01:12:46,322 --> 01:12:48,530
I almost passed away.
[ clicks tongue ]

1618
01:12:48,574 --> 01:12:50,724
My organs were failing.

1619
01:12:50,827 --> 01:12:52,000
So I had a crazy time.

1620
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:53,302
And that's the last time
I saw lisa,

1621
01:12:53,454 --> 01:12:54,761
'cause she came to see me
the day before

1622
01:12:54,763 --> 01:12:55,587
She went to honduras.

1623
01:12:55,665 --> 01:12:57,123
He won't even leave me.

1624
01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:00,576
That's my little friend.

1625
01:13:00,711 --> 01:13:02,545
♪♪

1626
01:13:02,797 --> 01:13:05,380
Valdés: Left eye's passing
was a shock,

1627
01:13:05,466 --> 01:13:06,698
Especially for me personally,

1628
01:13:06,843 --> 01:13:08,333
Because I had spent time there

1629
01:13:08,553 --> 01:13:10,769
And I knew
what this place meant to her.

1630
01:13:10,888 --> 01:13:12,805
So, everybody
already knows what these are.

1631
01:13:13,057 --> 01:13:15,857
These are your living quarters.
We call them huts.

1632
01:13:15,977 --> 01:13:18,811
Valdés: When we heard
that left eye was working

1633
01:13:18,980 --> 01:13:21,630
On a solo album, "supernova,"

1634
01:13:21,774 --> 01:13:24,190
I wanted to interview her

1635
01:13:24,277 --> 01:13:27,862
And had learned about
this healing center

1636
01:13:28,072 --> 01:13:31,114
That she had been going to.

1637
01:13:31,242 --> 01:13:36,053
It was really interesting
seeing lisa in that environment.

1638
01:13:36,164 --> 01:13:39,056
I remember getting
a peek at the room

1639
01:13:39,167 --> 01:13:41,125
That she was staying in.

1640
01:13:41,335 --> 01:13:42,718
She had decorated it.

1641
01:13:42,837 --> 01:13:46,705
There were, like,
drawings on the walls.

1642
01:13:46,883 --> 01:13:50,542
I think the quiet
helped her create

1643
01:13:50,678 --> 01:13:53,012
In a different kind of way.

1644
01:13:53,306 --> 01:13:57,933
Left eye felt like a supernova.
She felt like a bright star.

1645
01:13:58,186 --> 01:14:01,370
Just was really the perfect name
for what she was creating.

1646
01:14:01,522 --> 01:14:05,040
It was about death,
and she didn't believe in it.

1647
01:14:05,193 --> 01:14:08,435
She believed death
was transformation.

1648
01:14:08,437 --> 01:14:11,313
That gave me some peace,

1649
01:14:11,532 --> 01:14:15,951
In knowing that
she died in her happy place.

1650
01:14:32,386 --> 01:14:35,003
[ indistinct conversations ]

1651
01:14:35,005 --> 01:14:45,021
♪♪

1652
01:14:45,107 --> 01:14:46,856
Reporter: Thousands of mourners
are gathering

1653
01:14:46,943 --> 01:14:51,136
For the funeral of singer
lisa "left eye" lopes.

1654
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:52,821
Fans and friends
and loved ones

1655
01:14:52,907 --> 01:14:55,807
Bid a final farewell
to a pop princess.

1656
01:14:56,035 --> 01:14:59,261
Reporter #2: She would have
turned 31 next month.

1657
01:14:59,288 --> 01:15:06,968
♪♪

1658
01:15:07,004 --> 01:15:14,677
♪♪

1659
01:15:16,555 --> 01:15:17,846
Wow.

1660
01:15:25,773 --> 01:15:28,607
I remember sitting
on the end seat,

1661
01:15:28,859 --> 01:15:30,776
And you were sitting
next to me on the right.

1662
01:15:30,936 --> 01:15:32,561
Mm.

1663
01:15:32,780 --> 01:15:35,330
And all the fans,
I remember, were up there.

1664
01:15:35,366 --> 01:15:36,832
Yeah.

1665
01:15:36,993 --> 01:15:39,743
When her mom first saw us,
remember, she almost fainted

1666
01:15:39,870 --> 01:15:42,654
'cause she was so used
to seeing us all three together.

1667
01:15:42,873 --> 01:15:44,581
Without lisa sitting
in between us,

1668
01:15:44,625 --> 01:15:47,126
She kind of
fell back, almost.

1669
01:15:47,378 --> 01:15:49,161
Thomas: Okay, I remember
when we went to the wake,

1670
01:15:49,338 --> 01:15:51,513
'cause I didn't want to go.
Me neither.

1671
01:15:51,632 --> 01:15:53,832
And lisa's mom was like,
"you know, it's okay.

1672
01:15:54,010 --> 01:15:55,667
It's okay.
Look at her."

1673
01:15:55,845 --> 01:15:57,260
And I was like,
"oh, my gosh."

1674
01:15:57,346 --> 01:16:01,189
And, you know, I mean,
it didn't look like her.

1675
01:16:01,309 --> 01:16:02,341
I mean, how could it?
You know?

1676
01:16:02,518 --> 01:16:03,767
It didn't.
There's no life.

1677
01:16:03,811 --> 01:16:05,494
'cause, to me,
when I think of,

1678
01:16:05,646 --> 01:16:07,253
You know,
last memories or whatever,

1679
01:16:07,440 --> 01:16:09,756
That's not what I want
in my head.
Yeah.

1680
01:16:09,900 --> 01:16:11,500
You know?
'cause, to me, I'm like,

1681
01:16:11,652 --> 01:16:15,779
"that's not
my sister anymore."
yeah, definitely.

1682
01:16:15,823 --> 01:16:18,765
One of the worst days
of my life ever.

1683
01:16:18,826 --> 01:16:19,875
Mm-hmm.

1684
01:16:19,910 --> 01:16:22,878
♪♪

1685
01:16:22,997 --> 01:16:25,013
Obviously, that passing
of our sister

1686
01:16:25,015 --> 01:16:27,273
Brought us
closer together.

1687
01:16:27,460 --> 01:16:29,852
I know she understands
what I'm feeling.

1688
01:16:29,962 --> 01:16:32,204
I understand
what she's feeling.

1689
01:16:32,340 --> 01:16:34,047
♪♪

1690
01:16:34,175 --> 01:16:38,902
After she was gone, I felt
that void, and my heart hurt.

1691
01:16:39,055 --> 01:16:43,982
We had connected and bonded
so much on creativity.

1692
01:16:43,984 --> 01:16:45,975
It was just hard.

1693
01:16:46,020 --> 01:16:49,721
It took me years to...

1694
01:16:49,899 --> 01:16:53,600
Stop speaking her name
in...

1695
01:16:53,602 --> 01:16:54,718
The present.
Yeah.

1696
01:16:54,862 --> 01:16:56,895
I would always
talk about her

1697
01:16:57,073 --> 01:16:59,322
As if she was
still with us.

1698
01:16:59,408 --> 01:17:01,909
I just couldn't --
I couldn't accept that yet.

1699
01:17:02,119 --> 01:17:04,920
I wasn't ready.
And it was --

1700
01:17:05,039 --> 01:17:07,539
Those were
dark times for us.

1701
01:17:07,708 --> 01:17:10,058
Really dark.

1702
01:17:10,211 --> 01:17:13,228
I didn't speak about her
in past tense.

1703
01:17:13,381 --> 01:17:16,715
I can't say I<i> loved</i> her.
I still love her.

1704
01:17:16,875 --> 01:17:21,929
♪♪

1705
01:17:24,517 --> 01:17:26,925
T-boz and chilli,
they are the remaining members

1706
01:17:27,144 --> 01:17:29,018
Of the grammy award-winning
group tlc,

1707
01:17:29,105 --> 01:17:30,595
And they're
preparing for a future

1708
01:17:30,773 --> 01:17:32,915
Without lisa "left eye" lopes.

1709
01:17:33,109 --> 01:17:36,484
She was killed in a car accident
on April 25th in honduras.

1710
01:17:36,570 --> 01:17:37,986
Now, the group
has been recording

1711
01:17:38,239 --> 01:17:41,423
And say that the new album
will be released on time.

1712
01:17:41,534 --> 01:17:44,626
♪<i> feel so damn unpretty</i> ♪

1713
01:17:44,745 --> 01:17:46,745
In the first part,
the first line was good,

1714
01:17:46,956 --> 01:17:49,915
But "far" was flat
in the second line.

1715
01:17:50,167 --> 01:17:51,433
Alright.
Man: One more time.
One more time, baby.

1716
01:17:51,544 --> 01:17:52,692
She's still getting
the vibe of it.

1717
01:17:52,837 --> 01:17:53,943
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?

1718
01:17:54,130 --> 01:17:55,370
Sound good, though.
Sound good.

1719
01:17:55,548 --> 01:17:56,696
It was just the second half?

1720
01:17:56,841 --> 01:17:57,947
You're keeping
the whole first half?

1721
01:17:58,134 --> 01:17:59,391
Yeah, the whole first half
was cool.

1722
01:17:59,468 --> 01:18:01,367
Okay. That's good.

1723
01:18:01,470 --> 01:18:02,811
I'm ready.

1724
01:18:02,972 --> 01:18:05,981
Watkins: After lisa passed,
the record company said

1725
01:18:06,100 --> 01:18:07,632
They were going to put out
a greatest hits

1726
01:18:07,810 --> 01:18:09,150
If we didn't finish.

1727
01:18:09,311 --> 01:18:11,903
So we kind of felt forced
to go back into the studio.

1728
01:18:11,981 --> 01:18:13,154
Yeah, it's best to get
the whole line.

1729
01:18:13,274 --> 01:18:14,106
Man: That's what
I'm talking about,

1730
01:18:14,316 --> 01:18:15,991
We were given
an ultimatum.

1731
01:18:16,110 --> 01:18:18,468
Yeah, it was,
"either finish the album,

1732
01:18:18,654 --> 01:18:21,129
Or we're putting out
a greatest hits."

1733
01:18:21,282 --> 01:18:23,632
And it wasn't time
for a greatest hits.
No.

1734
01:18:23,659 --> 01:18:25,558
But what do you say?

1735
01:18:25,703 --> 01:18:27,703
Like,
"if you don't come out,

1736
01:18:27,955 --> 01:18:30,822
We're just gonna do whatever
we want with your career."

1737
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:32,757
That couldn't happen.

1738
01:18:32,877 --> 01:18:35,827
Then we made a decision
to do the album,

1739
01:18:35,921 --> 01:18:39,130
And then I had to go right back
into creating budgets

1740
01:18:39,216 --> 01:18:41,316
And, "what songs do we
already have in the can?"

1741
01:18:41,469 --> 01:18:45,337
And, "how do we use
left eye's vocals that we have?"

1742
01:18:45,598 --> 01:18:47,413
Lopes: ♪ what up, papi?
You think you got game? ♪

1743
01:18:47,641 --> 01:18:48,974
Man:
♪ well, holla at me ♪
♪ I know you're feelin' like ♪

1744
01:18:49,185 --> 01:18:50,267
Thomas:
The producers went back

1745
01:18:50,519 --> 01:18:53,829
And listened to
raps that she had,

1746
01:18:54,023 --> 01:18:57,349
And they chose the ones
that would fit the record.

1747
01:18:57,568 --> 01:18:59,609
♪ fits and kicks, and you be
hurtin' my ears ♪

1748
01:18:59,653 --> 01:19:01,094
Austin: After her passing,

1749
01:19:01,322 --> 01:19:03,371
It just kind of took
a certain part of me out of it.

1750
01:19:03,532 --> 01:19:06,592
As much as we used to complain
or bitch about

1751
01:19:06,702 --> 01:19:09,377
Her actions
and not being there,

1752
01:19:09,538 --> 01:19:11,813
It was only because
we wanted her to be there.

1753
01:19:12,041 --> 01:19:14,165
Watkins: She died
the day before my birthday.

1754
01:19:14,251 --> 01:19:15,726
When you go
to the grocery store,

1755
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:19,021
You just see rows of magazines
with your sister's face on it

1756
01:19:19,131 --> 01:19:21,047
With a birth
and a death number.

1757
01:19:21,091 --> 01:19:22,174
Then, if you stand
in the line

1758
01:19:22,384 --> 01:19:24,259
At, like, wendy's,
mcdonalds, anywhere,

1759
01:19:24,470 --> 01:19:25,710
People were having
conversations.

1760
01:19:25,930 --> 01:19:27,529
"did you hear that girl,
left eye, died?

1761
01:19:27,598 --> 01:19:28,454
She got in a car crash."

1762
01:19:28,557 --> 01:19:29,681
I went to the movies.

1763
01:19:29,892 --> 01:19:31,016
Another conversation
was happening.

1764
01:19:31,227 --> 01:19:32,217
So I was just like,
"you know what?

1765
01:19:32,394 --> 01:19:35,311
I'm not gonna go out
anymore."

1766
01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:39,041
I can tell you this -- there's
no rule book on how to mourn.

1767
01:19:39,235 --> 01:19:42,318
Thomas: We had tunnel vision.
"let's just finish it."

1768
01:19:42,404 --> 01:19:46,590
Following that was promotion,
marketing, sales.

1769
01:19:46,742 --> 01:19:48,826
You know, where do
we first announce,

1770
01:19:49,078 --> 01:19:50,977
And we decided
that it would be mtv,

1771
01:19:51,205 --> 01:19:54,514
Where the girls would have
their first public outing.

1772
01:19:54,708 --> 01:19:57,817
Ladies and gentlemen,
it is my honor to bring you tlc.

1773
01:19:57,962 --> 01:19:58,910
Lopes:
♪ the many chances I blew ♪

1774
01:19:59,088 --> 01:20:00,412
♪ to bring my life to anew ♪

1775
01:20:00,631 --> 01:20:02,630
♪ clear blue
and unconditional skies ♪

1776
01:20:02,716 --> 01:20:04,082
♪ have dried the tears
from my eyes ♪

1777
01:20:04,218 --> 01:20:06,234
♪ no more lonely cries ♪

1778
01:20:06,428 --> 01:20:09,204
Diggins: It was tough.
They didn't want to do it.

1779
01:20:09,265 --> 01:20:12,558
Watching them walk out alone
was heartbreaking.

1780
01:20:12,726 --> 01:20:16,711
It was really sad to --

1781
01:20:16,939 --> 01:20:19,748
To just see that stage
with the two of them.

1782
01:20:19,817 --> 01:20:22,192
[ cheers and applause ]

1783
01:20:25,781 --> 01:20:27,939
Watkins: Thank you.

1784
01:20:28,158 --> 01:20:31,309
I want to start off
by saying god is good.

1785
01:20:31,495 --> 01:20:33,111
[ voice breaking ]
that's the only reason

1786
01:20:33,289 --> 01:20:35,597
We're able to stand here
tonight.

1787
01:20:35,666 --> 01:20:40,118
[ cheers and applause ]

1788
01:20:40,296 --> 01:20:41,544
[ voice breaking ]
this is so hard

1789
01:20:41,630 --> 01:20:42,921
Because it's such
a reality check,

1790
01:20:43,132 --> 01:20:47,292
Because it's only
two of us up here.

1791
01:20:47,469 --> 01:20:49,428
And she's so missed.

1792
01:20:49,638 --> 01:20:54,707
But we want to thank everybody
for your support

1793
01:20:54,810 --> 01:20:55,784
And being there for us.

1794
01:20:55,811 --> 01:20:57,302
We really thank you.

1795
01:20:57,521 --> 01:21:01,990
We love you guys.
And we know that lisa's smiling,

1796
01:21:02,151 --> 01:21:04,717
And we just hope that
she's proud of us right now.

1797
01:21:04,820 --> 01:21:05,944
Thank you.

1798
01:21:06,113 --> 01:21:08,797
[ cheers and applause ]

1799
01:21:08,991 --> 01:21:11,983
I probably pushed them a
little more than I should have,

1800
01:21:12,202 --> 01:21:15,061
But I just felt
they had to go out there

1801
01:21:15,247 --> 01:21:18,581
And show people
"we're here, we're alive.

1802
01:21:18,584 --> 01:21:19,741
Don't forget us."

1803
01:21:19,919 --> 01:21:23,586
[ crowd cheering ]

1804
01:21:23,672 --> 01:21:26,940
It's time for the first
tlc video in three years.

1805
01:21:27,134 --> 01:21:29,517
Right now, it's the world
premiere of tlc "girl talk."
uh-oh.

1806
01:21:29,553 --> 01:21:30,518
Check it out.

1807
01:21:30,596 --> 01:21:31,670
[ crowd cheering ]

1808
01:21:31,830 --> 01:21:34,264
♪♪

1809
01:21:34,516 --> 01:21:36,874
♪ the girls are talkin',
the girls are talkin' ♪

1810
01:21:37,019 --> 01:21:39,293
♪ got y'all caught out there ♪

1811
01:21:39,521 --> 01:21:41,813
♪ why you thinkin'
that it's all about ya? ♪

1812
01:21:42,024 --> 01:21:44,674
♪ forget she told me
everything about ya ♪

1813
01:21:44,860 --> 01:21:48,153
♪ but the girls are talkin',
the girls are talkin' ♪

1814
01:21:48,364 --> 01:21:51,697
Thomas: "3d" sold
in the millions, I think,

1815
01:21:51,784 --> 01:21:55,785
But it was considered
a failure for us.

1816
01:21:55,829 --> 01:21:57,329
If you even
look at the cover,

1817
01:21:57,581 --> 01:21:59,456
To me, it just looks dark.
Yeah, it is dark.

1818
01:21:59,708 --> 01:22:01,324
Like, and if we were
in our right mind,

1819
01:22:01,377 --> 01:22:02,951
I don't think we even
would have picked that picture.

1820
01:22:03,212 --> 01:22:07,522
But that picture even speaks
to how we felt emotionally,

1821
01:22:07,591 --> 01:22:09,007
Because it felt normal.

1822
01:22:09,218 --> 01:22:10,450
But when you're
in a dark place,

1823
01:22:10,594 --> 01:22:12,952
You look and think dark.
Right.

1824
01:22:13,055 --> 01:22:14,546
For me,

1825
01:22:14,765 --> 01:22:16,981
I didn't even really think
about it like

1826
01:22:17,101 --> 01:22:20,318
It was success
or not a success.

1827
01:22:20,396 --> 01:22:21,886
Just mourning still.

1828
01:22:22,147 --> 01:22:25,524
But you would never know
that we were struggling.

1829
01:22:25,734 --> 01:22:27,483
Tonight,
we're very fortunate

1830
01:22:27,569 --> 01:22:29,194
To have our next performers
share with us

1831
01:22:29,405 --> 01:22:30,879
Their very last performance.

1832
01:22:30,948 --> 01:22:32,138
[ intro to "no scrubs" playing ]

1833
01:22:32,282 --> 01:22:33,882
Come on, y'all!
Man: I want y'all --

1834
01:22:34,076 --> 01:22:35,867
I want y'all to put an "l"
up in the air for left eye.

1835
01:22:36,111 --> 01:22:37,243
Let's talk about
no scrubs!

1836
01:22:37,287 --> 01:22:38,887
Put an "l" up in the air
for left eye.

1837
01:22:38,914 --> 01:22:40,071
Okay.

1838
01:22:40,249 --> 01:22:41,890
Thomas:
Our big performance,

1839
01:22:42,001 --> 01:22:44,743
First time without lisa,
was z100.

1840
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:46,261
♪ also known as a busta ♪

1841
01:22:46,380 --> 01:22:50,565
And it was like
60,000-plus people there.

1842
01:22:50,634 --> 01:22:52,250
So, yeah, I was a wreck.

1843
01:22:52,511 --> 01:22:54,720
♪<i> if you can't spacially expand</i>
<i> my horizons</i> ♪

1844
01:22:55,014 --> 01:22:56,254
♪<i> then that leaves you</i>
<i> in the class with scrubs</i> ♪

1845
01:22:56,432 --> 01:22:57,330
♪<i> never risin'</i> ♪

1846
01:22:57,433 --> 01:22:58,940
Tionne and I said that

1847
01:22:59,101 --> 01:23:00,258
We weren't gonna look
at the screens,

1848
01:23:00,477 --> 01:23:03,211
Because anytime
lisa's parts came up,

1849
01:23:03,230 --> 01:23:05,731
We had the video going
of her performing.

1850
01:23:05,899 --> 01:23:07,065
♪<i> to turn you out</i> ♪

1851
01:23:07,276 --> 01:23:08,816
And the fans, they loved it.

1852
01:23:08,944 --> 01:23:12,486
But in order for us to get
through the show without crying,

1853
01:23:12,614 --> 01:23:15,573
When I say we did not
look up one time,

1854
01:23:15,617 --> 01:23:16,633
Not even like a...

1855
01:23:16,702 --> 01:23:18,351
[ chuckles ] no.

1856
01:23:18,454 --> 01:23:20,462
♪ ask chilli ♪

1857
01:23:20,464 --> 01:23:22,230
♪<i> could I? What? Not really</i> ♪

1858
01:23:22,499 --> 01:23:25,708
♪<i> t-boz and all my señoritas</i>
<i> are steppin' on your filas</i> ♪

1859
01:23:25,794 --> 01:23:27,118
♪<i> but you don't hear me,</i>
<i> though</i> ♪

1860
01:23:27,296 --> 01:23:28,795
[ cheers and applause ]

1861
01:23:33,469 --> 01:23:38,162
[ crowd cheering ]

1862
01:23:38,348 --> 01:23:40,632
We see you're honoring
a friend tonight, huh?

1863
01:23:40,809 --> 01:23:42,300
Oh, yeah.
Sister, family.

1864
01:23:42,394 --> 01:23:44,352
[ chuckles ]

1865
01:23:44,480 --> 01:23:47,889
Watkins: I'm not really
an emotional person, honestly.

1866
01:23:48,067 --> 01:23:50,233
[ chuckles dryly ]

1867
01:23:50,277 --> 01:23:51,626
But with
that kind of stuff,

1868
01:23:51,779 --> 01:23:54,529
You're kind of forced
to deal with your emotions.

1869
01:23:54,740 --> 01:23:58,850
Losing a group member,
that's family.

1870
01:23:59,078 --> 01:24:03,622
We could relate
because we had lost aaliyah.

1871
01:24:03,791 --> 01:24:06,074
Aaliyah was family to me.

1872
01:24:06,293 --> 01:24:11,045
And I've known tlc
for a very, very long time.

1873
01:24:11,173 --> 01:24:14,800
So we're able to sit and just
be there for each other.

1874
01:24:14,968 --> 01:24:17,593
It's like, what do we do next?

1875
01:24:17,679 --> 01:24:19,387
Being at an event like this
without lisa,

1876
01:24:19,598 --> 01:24:21,764
Does it take
getting used to?

1877
01:24:21,809 --> 01:24:23,608
Every day.
Yeah. It's still...

1878
01:24:23,769 --> 01:24:24,834
Every single solitary day.
...Hard to believe,

1879
01:24:24,937 --> 01:24:26,102
I would think.
Oh, yeah.

1880
01:24:26,188 --> 01:24:27,262
Thomas: I didn't want
to deal with

1881
01:24:27,439 --> 01:24:29,397
Anybody asking me
any questions.

1882
01:24:29,483 --> 01:24:31,841
I didn't want to hear,
you know, "sorry."

1883
01:24:31,985 --> 01:24:33,201
You know,
"my condolences."

1884
01:24:33,278 --> 01:24:35,253
I don't want to hear
any of that stuff.

1885
01:24:35,364 --> 01:24:36,788
Grohl: When you go through
tragedy,

1886
01:24:36,949 --> 01:24:38,614
Especially with someone
you're in a band with,

1887
01:24:38,700 --> 01:24:42,536
Your first instinct
is usually to back away,

1888
01:24:42,788 --> 01:24:44,495
Out of some sort
of self defense.

1889
01:24:44,581 --> 01:24:47,015
You're kind of stuck
at this crossroads.

1890
01:24:47,126 --> 01:24:49,275
What do you do?
How do you continue

1891
01:24:49,461 --> 01:24:51,886
And pay tribute
to the person you've lost?

1892
01:24:52,005 --> 01:24:54,673
How do you make decisions
that you used to make

1893
01:24:54,842 --> 01:24:56,842
As three people,
now as two?

1894
01:24:57,010 --> 01:25:01,179
[ paparazzi clamoring ]

1895
01:25:01,390 --> 01:25:02,872
Diggins: We need to start
thinking,

1896
01:25:03,016 --> 01:25:05,049
What is the new reality for us?

1897
01:25:05,144 --> 01:25:10,080
♪♪

1898
01:25:10,232 --> 01:25:12,882
It was clear that
the music industry

1899
01:25:13,026 --> 01:25:15,902
Had deemed tlc to be over.

1900
01:25:16,155 --> 01:25:18,863
Everybody was
going their own directions

1901
01:25:18,907 --> 01:25:20,173
And taking a little break,

1902
01:25:20,325 --> 01:25:22,117
And we didn't know
what was going to happen.

1903
01:25:22,277 --> 01:25:26,412
♪♪

1904
01:25:26,498 --> 01:25:29,291
The difference
between bc and ac --

1905
01:25:29,534 --> 01:25:31,592
Watkins: Bc is
before chase and chance,

1906
01:25:31,712 --> 01:25:33,486
And ac is
after chase and chance.

1907
01:25:33,672 --> 01:25:35,814
Aww
♪ get 'em, chase, get 'em ♪

1908
01:25:35,883 --> 01:25:37,732
♪ get 'em, chase, get 'em ♪

1909
01:25:37,843 --> 01:25:40,101
♪ get 'em, chase, get 'em ♪

1910
01:25:40,220 --> 01:25:43,271
I was told that
I would never have kids.

1911
01:25:43,432 --> 01:25:48,935
So, chase, she was my angel,
like my miracle baby.

1912
01:25:49,188 --> 01:25:52,363
And then, chance is, like,
a beautiful soul.

1913
01:25:52,365 --> 01:25:53,957
He just is.

1914
01:25:54,026 --> 01:25:57,193
Kids are so pure.

1915
01:25:57,279 --> 01:25:59,387
The first time you see
your child's face,

1916
01:25:59,615 --> 01:26:02,531
I don't know, it's like
the world becomes different.

1917
01:26:02,618 --> 01:26:04,993
I have somebody to go home for
or live for,

1918
01:26:05,245 --> 01:26:09,372
To teach, somebody to guide,
someone that looks up to me,

1919
01:26:09,374 --> 01:26:11,315
And I take care of.

1920
01:26:11,501 --> 01:26:14,026
My kids come first
before this job,

1921
01:26:14,129 --> 01:26:15,961
Before anything.

1922
01:26:16,048 --> 01:26:18,823
I'm not one of those moms
that's willing to miss

1923
01:26:18,825 --> 01:26:21,258
Anything in my kids' life.

1924
01:26:21,386 --> 01:26:24,946
I won't, 'cause I can't
get that time back,

1925
01:26:25,057 --> 01:26:27,556
And I won't do that
to my children.

1926
01:26:27,559 --> 01:26:29,809
All: Aww!

1927
01:26:30,062 --> 01:26:32,245
Watkins: You got a ball.
Whoa. Whoa.

1928
01:26:32,397 --> 01:26:34,130
Thomas: Chase did
some things to you.

1929
01:26:34,399 --> 01:26:35,999
She made you more sensitive
and all that.
[ watkins laughs ]

1930
01:26:36,151 --> 01:26:38,242
And I really appreciate that,
you know?

1931
01:26:38,278 --> 01:26:39,427
And so...
[ laughs ]

1932
01:26:39,613 --> 01:26:41,004
'cause all of
our little hard work...

1933
01:26:41,073 --> 01:26:42,613
Yeah, yeah.
...Prior to...

1934
01:26:42,615 --> 01:26:43,898
I-I cracked her
a little bit, you know,

1935
01:26:44,076 --> 01:26:45,533
But I just could
only get so far.

1936
01:26:45,577 --> 01:26:47,585
But chase, like,
you know, did it.

1937
01:26:47,587 --> 01:26:50,229
And chance
brought it home.

1938
01:26:50,457 --> 01:26:53,825
I was really ready to retire
and go act or do something else

1939
01:26:54,086 --> 01:26:56,144
Or just write songs
for other artists.

1940
01:26:56,296 --> 01:26:57,920
But I wasn't --
I said, "lord, jesus, no."

1941
01:26:57,965 --> 01:27:00,005
I'll --
and she was praying.

1942
01:27:00,092 --> 01:27:02,667
Diggins: At that point,
chilli was very clear,

1943
01:27:02,678 --> 01:27:04,152
But tionne didn't even know

1944
01:27:04,263 --> 01:27:07,171
If she wanted
to continue on with tlc.

1945
01:27:07,307 --> 01:27:10,158
♪♪

1946
01:27:10,269 --> 01:27:13,478
Watkins:
The year was 2007.

1947
01:27:13,772 --> 01:27:19,334
I kept having severe migraines,
and I get a call from my doctor.

1948
01:27:19,444 --> 01:27:20,593
I said,
"you're gonna tell me

1949
01:27:20,779 --> 01:27:22,904
I have a brain tumor
or something."

1950
01:27:23,115 --> 01:27:25,890
And then he said, "yes."

1951
01:27:25,892 --> 01:27:28,659
♪♪

1952
01:27:28,661 --> 01:27:32,430
Like, what?

1953
01:27:32,499 --> 01:27:34,115
First, lisa dies,

1954
01:27:34,376 --> 01:27:38,027
I'm going through a divorce,
and I have a brain tumor.

1955
01:27:38,213 --> 01:27:39,887
The hardest part for me
was the four days

1956
01:27:39,965 --> 01:27:41,689
That I didn't know
exactly what was in my head.

1957
01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:42,782
I didn't know
if it was cancerous,

1958
01:27:42,968 --> 01:27:45,176
I didn't know
if I was going to die.

1959
01:27:45,345 --> 01:27:48,179
That was
a hard four days.

1960
01:27:49,891 --> 01:27:54,152
So I just sat there
staring into space.

1961
01:27:54,313 --> 01:27:57,772
I don't want to cry, but my
first thought was my daughter.

1962
01:27:59,818 --> 01:28:01,559
[ watkins laughs ]

1963
01:28:01,761 --> 01:28:04,863
♪♪

1964
01:28:05,023 --> 01:28:06,698
Right now.

1965
01:28:09,745 --> 01:28:11,386
[ exhales deeply ]

1966
01:28:11,538 --> 01:28:16,458
[ voice breaking ] I wanted to
make it back just to be a mom.

1967
01:28:16,710 --> 01:28:20,045
So I didn't care about
the business, honestly,

1968
01:28:20,339 --> 01:28:24,156
'cause that don't matter anyway
if I ain't here to do it.

1969
01:28:24,343 --> 01:28:28,111
So my prayer was that
I wouldn't be afraid,

1970
01:28:28,221 --> 01:28:29,921
And that I would
get through it

1971
01:28:29,923 --> 01:28:31,990
To be there for my kid.

1972
01:28:32,017 --> 01:28:36,202
♪♪

1973
01:28:36,355 --> 01:28:39,080
My doctor said I have
an acoustic neuroma.

1974
01:28:39,274 --> 01:28:43,676
It went through my ear canal and
sat down in my right cerebellum,

1975
01:28:43,862 --> 01:28:45,319
Sitting on top
of my facial nerve,

1976
01:28:45,405 --> 01:28:47,589
My hearing nerve,
and my balance nerve.

1977
01:28:47,699 --> 01:28:50,558
He said, "in case
something goes wrong

1978
01:28:50,702 --> 01:28:52,777
And I can't save
either your hearing,

1979
01:28:52,954 --> 01:28:55,863
Your face,
or your balance,

1980
01:28:56,124 --> 01:29:05,289
Give me the order that
you want to save yourself."

1981
01:29:05,550 --> 01:29:12,263
This industry is about your
face, your voice, your dancing.

1982
01:29:12,265 --> 01:29:15,558
That's my whole job.

1983
01:29:15,560 --> 01:29:16,884
So they took my balance.

1984
01:29:17,104 --> 01:29:19,053
I saved my face,
for the most part,

1985
01:29:19,189 --> 01:29:20,021
And my hearing.

1986
01:29:20,265 --> 01:29:21,789
I only lost 3% at the time.

1987
01:29:21,900 --> 01:29:24,317
[ camera shutters clicking ]

1988
01:29:24,611 --> 01:29:27,912
That was one of the hardest
things I've ever been through.

1989
01:29:28,073 --> 01:29:31,657
I just remember being depressed
for some years.

1990
01:29:31,743 --> 01:29:33,651
I was just going
through the motions.

1991
01:29:33,829 --> 01:29:35,670
[ paparazzi clamoring ]

1992
01:29:35,789 --> 01:29:38,581
And I felt like
I was hideous-looking.

1993
01:29:38,625 --> 01:29:40,399
My face is partially paralyzed.

1994
01:29:40,585 --> 01:29:42,918
I smile from this side,
if people notice,

1995
01:29:43,004 --> 01:29:44,878
Or I always cover my face
sometimes.

1996
01:29:44,965 --> 01:29:46,798
That's because
I still have paralysis.

1997
01:29:46,967 --> 01:29:48,082
Woman: That was silly.

1998
01:29:48,260 --> 01:29:49,234
-Thank you very much.
-Thank you.

1999
01:29:49,302 --> 01:29:50,501
You're welcome.

2000
01:29:50,720 --> 01:29:53,671
I remember looking
in the mirror one day,

2001
01:29:53,932 --> 01:29:57,183
And I started crying,
and my mom said, "no."

2002
01:29:57,477 --> 01:30:01,270
She said, "look, this is just
your journey back to normal.

2003
01:30:01,314 --> 01:30:03,164
This is not
how you're going to stay.

2004
01:30:03,275 --> 01:30:05,274
This is not
how you're going to be.

2005
01:30:05,444 --> 01:30:09,053
This is only your journey back
to where you started from."

2006
01:30:09,197 --> 01:30:10,454
And I said, "yeah, okay."

2007
01:30:10,532 --> 01:30:13,074
So I look at it that way,

2008
01:30:13,368 --> 01:30:16,852
Then all I got to do is survive
this and get through it,

2009
01:30:16,955 --> 01:30:17,995
And I could be cool.

2010
01:30:18,039 --> 01:30:19,880
Woman: Over here.

2011
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:23,834
And then the fight kicks in
[bleep] that I'm living,

2012
01:30:23,879 --> 01:30:25,319
I'm going to survive this,

2013
01:30:25,547 --> 01:30:30,024
I'm going to beat this,
I am going to pray.

2014
01:30:30,135 --> 01:30:34,979
So what you got?
How we going to do this?

2015
01:30:35,140 --> 01:30:38,799
It took me three-and-a-half
to four years to heal

2016
01:30:39,019 --> 01:30:41,452
From the brain tumor
completely.

2017
01:30:41,480 --> 01:30:44,588
I feel like I had to heal
and I had to come back

2018
01:30:44,590 --> 01:30:45,873
And I had to be okay,

2019
01:30:45,984 --> 01:30:49,160
Because I had so many people
to be okay for.

2020
01:30:49,237 --> 01:30:50,712
So me and chance
are gonna fly,

2021
01:30:50,822 --> 01:30:52,730
See you not this week,
but the next week.

2022
01:30:52,866 --> 01:30:54,323
Is that cool?

2023
01:30:54,409 --> 01:30:55,950
Rolison:<i> I'm cool</i>
<i> with you guys coming.</i>

2024
01:30:56,203 --> 01:30:57,401
<i> I miss you guys. I haven't</i>
<i> seen you guys in a minute.</i>

2025
01:30:57,537 --> 01:30:59,754
Yeah, I miss you, too.

2026
01:30:59,831 --> 01:31:00,980
Alright. I love you.

2027
01:31:01,082 --> 01:31:02,490
<i> Love you, too.</i>

2028
01:31:02,751 --> 01:31:05,435
Thomas: While tionne was
going through physical therapy,

2029
01:31:05,545 --> 01:31:09,930
I was talking to bill
all the time,

2030
01:31:10,091 --> 01:31:13,601
Just, you know, wondering,
what are we going to do?

2031
01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:16,738
Even though our career
was stagnant at the time,

2032
01:31:16,890 --> 01:31:20,858
I just never had that feeling
that it was over.

2033
01:31:20,894 --> 01:31:23,161
♪♪

2034
01:31:23,313 --> 01:31:26,939
Tionne probably didn't know
what she wanted to do.

2035
01:31:27,025 --> 01:31:30,201
Her main focus
was getting better.

2036
01:31:30,362 --> 01:31:34,638
So, do we still do this
and pursue the dream

2037
01:31:34,783 --> 01:31:36,307
Or do we get out?

2038
01:31:36,409 --> 01:31:41,179
♪♪

2039
01:31:41,373 --> 01:31:45,299
When you don't have
the number-one record
in the world anymore,

2040
01:31:45,377 --> 01:31:47,318
I don't care who you are,

2041
01:31:47,504 --> 01:31:50,255
Everybody kind of
goes to sleep on you.

2042
01:31:52,425 --> 01:31:55,793
But bill never went
to sleep on us, ever.

2043
01:31:55,929 --> 01:31:59,130
Come on!

2044
01:31:59,266 --> 01:32:00,265
She's looking.

2045
01:32:00,425 --> 01:32:01,949
Come here, chasey.

2046
01:32:02,060 --> 01:32:03,876
I can get it.
Hold on, I got her.

2047
01:32:04,062 --> 01:32:04,985
Watkins: Our relationship
evolved...

2048
01:32:05,063 --> 01:32:06,061
Give me
my camcorder.

2049
01:32:06,064 --> 01:32:07,054
I know, I know.

2050
01:32:07,190 --> 01:32:08,022
...To family.

2051
01:32:08,191 --> 01:32:09,815
Chase?
Chasey.

2052
01:32:09,859 --> 01:32:11,609
Chasey.
See uncle billy?

2053
01:32:11,778 --> 01:32:15,763
Hey!
Look at the little face.

2054
01:32:15,949 --> 01:32:20,167
We arguably have
the best manager in the world.

2055
01:32:20,245 --> 01:32:21,969
He believed in me

2056
01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:25,156
When I was like,
"oh, no," you know?

2057
01:32:25,417 --> 01:32:27,174
And that's cool to have
somebody in your corner

2058
01:32:27,294 --> 01:32:30,461
Who can see things in you
when you can't.

2059
01:32:30,714 --> 01:32:34,014
Kind of helps you
believe in yourself again.

2060
01:32:34,134 --> 01:32:38,136
That's how I knew
that this wasn't over for me.

2061
01:32:38,296 --> 01:32:41,139
♪♪

2062
01:32:41,391 --> 01:32:44,583
The super bowl blitz,
this was the pivotal moment

2063
01:32:44,811 --> 01:32:49,271
Because they hadn't performed
in front of a live audience

2064
01:32:49,274 --> 01:32:51,440
In almost 10 years.

2065
01:32:51,484 --> 01:32:53,175
But I hear me
out here.

2066
01:32:53,361 --> 01:32:55,536
I had to say
to tionne and chilli,

2067
01:32:55,697 --> 01:32:58,840
"in everybody's eyes,
your career is over."

2068
01:32:58,950 --> 01:33:00,825
Thomas: I was definitely
wondering,

2069
01:33:01,027 --> 01:33:02,493
"is this gonna come together?"

2070
01:33:02,704 --> 01:33:04,846
It was really,
really stressful,

2071
01:33:04,956 --> 01:33:07,498
Down to hours before the show.

2072
01:33:07,792 --> 01:33:10,718
Man: Are you ready for tlc?
Everybody make some noise.

2073
01:33:10,795 --> 01:33:13,888
[ cheers and applause ]

2074
01:33:14,007 --> 01:33:17,141
[ intro to "ain't 2 proud 2 beg"
playing ]

2075
01:33:17,343 --> 01:33:22,363
♪♪

2076
01:33:22,474 --> 01:33:24,215
[ speaking indistinctly ]
for tlc.

2077
01:33:24,351 --> 01:33:28,168
Everybody scream!

2078
01:33:28,396 --> 01:33:30,705
Thomas: It all came together.
It was great.

2079
01:33:30,815 --> 01:33:33,240
Watkins: It was
an amazing feeling,

2080
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:36,410
Because the business side
of the industry,

2081
01:33:36,571 --> 01:33:40,406
They pretty much
didn't believe in us anymore.

2082
01:33:40,659 --> 01:33:43,192
And I think that's where
you have to remember

2083
01:33:43,203 --> 01:33:45,953
That you believe in
yourself.

2084
01:33:46,039 --> 01:33:48,489
We knew we still had
staying power.

2085
01:33:48,708 --> 01:33:51,325
We also knew that we could
still sing and dance.

2086
01:33:51,544 --> 01:33:53,677
But you just have to find
your new normal.

2087
01:33:53,713 --> 01:33:56,247
♪♪

2088
01:33:56,508 --> 01:34:00,192
I always kept saying it only
takes one person to say yes.

2089
01:34:00,194 --> 01:34:02,161
And that was
the super bowl blitz for us.
Thomas: Yeah.

2090
01:34:02,347 --> 01:34:04,688
That was when
we showed the world

2091
01:34:04,849 --> 01:34:08,000
That we were ready
and we could still do this.

2092
01:34:08,228 --> 01:34:10,853
That's when all the promoters
started calling again,

2093
01:34:10,939 --> 01:34:13,564
Like, "ohhh,
so now you want us, huh?"
right.

2094
01:34:13,858 --> 01:34:17,952
I'm bringing to the stage
some of my favorite girl groups.

2095
01:34:18,029 --> 01:34:19,504
The best that's ever done it.

2096
01:34:19,614 --> 01:34:22,957
♪ the 23rd of loneliness ♪

2097
01:34:23,076 --> 01:34:26,777
♪ and we don't talk
like we used to do ♪

2098
01:34:27,038 --> 01:34:28,446
One of the greatest groups
of all time

2099
01:34:28,623 --> 01:34:29,997
That I grew up listening to.

2100
01:34:30,041 --> 01:34:31,648
♪ it seems pretty strange ♪

2101
01:34:31,793 --> 01:34:33,592
♪ but I ain't buggin' ♪

2102
01:34:33,594 --> 01:34:36,653
♪ 'cause I still feel the same ♪

2103
01:34:36,881 --> 01:34:39,490
Make some noise
for the legendary tlc.

2104
01:34:39,718 --> 01:34:43,561
♪ I'll keep lovin' till the day
he pushes me away ♪

2105
01:34:43,596 --> 01:34:45,746
♪ never go astray ♪

2106
01:34:45,990 --> 01:34:49,183
[ crowd chanting "tlc!" ]

2107
01:34:49,343 --> 01:34:53,804
♪♪

2108
01:34:53,940 --> 01:34:55,155
[ cheers and applause ]

2109
01:34:55,275 --> 01:34:57,641
Thomas: I love everything
about performing.

2110
01:34:57,902 --> 01:35:01,028
I come to life in a different
kind of way when we're on stage.

2111
01:35:01,072 --> 01:35:02,663
[ fireworks crackling ]

2112
01:35:02,741 --> 01:35:06,467
Especially next to her.

2113
01:35:06,578 --> 01:35:09,411
We've done so much together.

2114
01:35:09,497 --> 01:35:11,730
We've played shows
all over the world --

2115
01:35:11,916 --> 01:35:14,249
South africa,
paris, and sydney --

2116
01:35:14,294 --> 01:35:17,753
In front of 45,000 people.

2117
01:35:17,797 --> 01:35:21,832
Your key fans --
those real die-hard fans

2118
01:35:21,968 --> 01:35:23,134
That are super loyal --

2119
01:35:23,336 --> 01:35:24,168
They're with you.

2120
01:35:24,262 --> 01:35:27,138
[ crowd cheering ]

2121
01:35:27,298 --> 01:35:32,310
♪♪

2122
01:35:32,470 --> 01:35:33,435
Goodbye!

2123
01:35:33,438 --> 01:35:34,996
And...
When we heard

2124
01:35:35,190 --> 01:35:38,198
Glastonbury wanted us
to perform, man...
It was over.

2125
01:35:38,359 --> 01:35:40,151
...I wanted to run up the street
butt naked, child...

2126
01:35:40,311 --> 01:35:42,036
[ laughs ]

2127
01:35:42,113 --> 01:35:44,355
...Screaming
in the streets.

2128
01:35:44,616 --> 01:35:46,991
I'mma shake it, girl! No,
I'm just playing. I'm joking.

2129
01:35:47,285 --> 01:35:50,477
Thomas: Glastonbury is the
biggest festival in the world.

2130
01:35:50,705 --> 01:35:55,649
It is huge, and it would be
our biggest show yet.

2131
01:35:55,651 --> 01:35:57,627
[ crowd cheering ]

2132
01:36:00,340 --> 01:36:04,725
[ indistinct conversations ]

2133
01:36:04,844 --> 01:36:06,903
Reporter:
Welcome to glastonbury.

2134
01:36:07,096 --> 01:36:11,557
The sun is shining.
200,000 people are coming here.

2135
01:36:13,686 --> 01:36:19,315
[ cheers and applause ]

2136
01:36:19,484 --> 01:36:21,608
Man: Yes, sir!

2137
01:36:21,653 --> 01:36:23,528
-What up?
-Yeah!

2138
01:36:23,738 --> 01:36:26,230
Hi. How are you?
Nice to see you.

2139
01:36:26,407 --> 01:36:28,382
Man: Alright, guys.

2140
01:36:28,535 --> 01:36:30,701
Father god,
we'd like to thank you for life,

2141
01:36:30,912 --> 01:36:32,477
For our health, for strength.

2142
01:36:32,705 --> 01:36:34,329
We pray that you allow us to
go out there and do what we do,

2143
01:36:34,415 --> 01:36:36,924
Father god, use the gifts
that you have give us.

2144
01:36:36,960 --> 01:36:38,692
In jesus' name, we pray.

2145
01:36:38,694 --> 01:36:39,835
Amen.

2146
01:36:39,837 --> 01:36:41,646
All: Amen!

2147
01:36:41,714 --> 01:36:45,666
Tlc! Mtv!
We tune in!

2148
01:36:45,760 --> 01:36:50,771
Whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo,
whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo!

2149
01:36:50,773 --> 01:36:51,805
♪♪

2150
01:36:51,808 --> 01:36:53,090
♪ t, l, c ♪

2151
01:36:53,226 --> 01:36:54,850
♪ come on, t ♪

2152
01:36:54,894 --> 01:36:55,726
♪ let me hear you say ♪

2153
01:36:55,895 --> 01:36:58,262
[ muffled music playing ]

2154
01:36:58,398 --> 01:37:04,435
♪♪

2155
01:37:04,696 --> 01:37:07,071
♪ come on, make some noise
for my ladies ♪

2156
01:37:07,282 --> 01:37:11,683
♪ give it up for chilli
and t-boz ♪

2157
01:37:11,786 --> 01:37:15,854
♪ some t, some t ♪

2158
01:37:15,957 --> 01:37:17,272
♪ come on ♪

2159
01:37:17,375 --> 01:37:21,268
Make some noise!

2160
01:37:21,337 --> 01:37:22,253
[ cheers and applause ]

2161
01:37:22,413 --> 01:37:24,121
♪♪

2162
01:37:24,257 --> 01:37:25,155
Alright, y'all.

2163
01:37:25,258 --> 01:37:27,733
♪♪

2164
01:37:27,844 --> 01:37:31,629
We in the house.
Yeah! Come on!

2165
01:37:31,890 --> 01:37:38,135
♪ 1992, tlc kickin' off
in your motha... ♪

2166
01:37:38,313 --> 01:37:40,229
♪ I ain't 2 proud 2 beg ♪

2167
01:37:40,523 --> 01:37:44,308
Valdés: I wish people today
could understand what it meant

2168
01:37:44,485 --> 01:37:46,777
To see a group like tlc.

2169
01:37:46,821 --> 01:37:48,528
They helped usher in

2170
01:37:48,656 --> 01:37:51,799
This sort of genre
of female empowerment music.

2171
01:37:51,993 --> 01:37:54,818
'cause, glastonbury,
we don't want no what?
Watkins: What?

2172
01:37:54,954 --> 01:37:57,580
Crowd: Scrubs!

2173
01:37:57,874 --> 01:38:00,240
[ intro to "no scrubs" playing ]
♪ yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪

2174
01:38:00,376 --> 01:38:02,159
♪ mm-hmm ♪

2175
01:38:02,378 --> 01:38:05,663
Giving us permission
to speak our mind

2176
01:38:05,840 --> 01:38:08,415
Actually changed the world.

2177
01:38:08,551 --> 01:38:12,527
♪♪

2178
01:38:12,555 --> 01:38:16,098
Watkins: Left eye's favorite
song, so let's do this for lisa.

2179
01:38:16,184 --> 01:38:18,676
Thomas: I feel like
the greatest reward,

2180
01:38:18,937 --> 01:38:21,679
It's when you don't have
the number-one song anymore

2181
01:38:21,898 --> 01:38:24,815
And you're able to
sell out your tours.

2182
01:38:24,901 --> 01:38:27,518
That means you have
a great body of work

2183
01:38:27,695 --> 01:38:29,536
That can stand the test of time.

2184
01:38:29,697 --> 01:38:34,783
♪ a lonely mother gazing out
of her window ♪

2185
01:38:34,869 --> 01:38:38,679
And time has told us
that we did good.

2186
01:38:38,706 --> 01:38:40,347
[ laughs ]

2187
01:38:40,416 --> 01:38:41,623
We did alright.

2188
01:38:41,709 --> 01:38:43,608
Man:
Turning it up again for lisa!

2189
01:38:43,811 --> 01:38:45,102
Left eye!
Come on, y'all!

2190
01:38:45,171 --> 01:38:46,170
-Okay!
-Okay!

2191
01:38:46,339 --> 01:38:47,705
There's two more!
Ay!

2192
01:38:47,924 --> 01:38:49,631
Lopes:
♪<i> I seen a rainbow yesterday</i> ♪

2193
01:38:49,717 --> 01:38:50,891
♪<i> but too many storms</i>
<i> have come and gone</i> ♪

2194
01:38:51,010 --> 01:38:52,209
Oh, we've been through
bankruptcy.

2195
01:38:52,387 --> 01:38:53,970
We've been through
houses burning down.

2196
01:38:54,305 --> 01:38:56,054
We've been through sickle cell.
We've been through settlements.

2197
01:38:56,224 --> 01:38:58,473
Thomas: Babies...
We've been through babies,
birthdays, holidays.

2198
01:38:58,559 --> 01:39:00,567
...If I think about the rest.
[ laughter ]

2199
01:39:00,728 --> 01:39:03,370
Watkins: One, two, three, four.
One more time, y'all.

2200
01:39:03,564 --> 01:39:07,215
♪ don't go chasing waterfalls ♪
come on, y'all!

2201
01:39:07,485 --> 01:39:12,487
♪ please stick to the rivers and
the lakes that you're used to ♪

2202
01:39:12,657 --> 01:39:17,751
I♪ know that you're gonna have
it your way or nothing at all ♪

2203
01:39:17,787 --> 01:39:19,386
♪ but I think you're ♪

2204
01:39:19,455 --> 01:39:21,521
♪ moving too fast ♪

2205
01:39:21,749 --> 01:39:23,832
Watkins: Three little
black girls from the hood

2206
01:39:23,918 --> 01:39:27,561
To become the biggest
and the best-selling girl group

2207
01:39:27,755 --> 01:39:31,506
Of all time in america
and still hold that title?

2208
01:39:31,592 --> 01:39:35,419
We did that, and we still
are holding the torch.

2209
01:39:35,638 --> 01:39:43,577
Man: Glastonbury,
make some noise for tlc!

2210
01:39:43,646 --> 01:39:46,205
[ cheers and applause ]

2211
01:39:46,357 --> 01:39:49,466
Y'all make some noise
for chilli!

2212
01:39:49,610 --> 01:39:54,529
Y'all make some noise for t-boz!

2213
01:39:54,615 --> 01:39:58,926
Make some noise
for lisa "left eye" lopes!

2214
01:39:58,995 --> 01:40:02,096
[ "waterfalls" playing ]

2215
01:40:02,123 --> 01:40:03,347
Whoo!

2216
01:40:03,507 --> 01:40:08,435
♪♪

2217
01:40:08,463 --> 01:40:10,637
Woman: Whoo!

2218
01:40:10,673 --> 01:40:13,557
Here we go!

2219
01:40:13,593 --> 01:40:15,492
Whoo!

2220
01:40:15,595 --> 01:40:17,127
Whoo!

2221
01:40:17,221 --> 01:40:19,313
♪♪

2222
01:40:19,390 --> 01:40:21,031
I'm so proud of you guys!

2223
01:40:21,142 --> 01:40:22,767
-Thank you.
-Oh, my god!

2224
01:40:23,010 --> 01:40:24,218
[ laughter ]
you killed it.

2225
01:40:24,479 --> 01:40:27,154
There were like 40,000,
50,000 people trying

2226
01:40:27,315 --> 01:40:29,957
To rip walls down to get in
'cause they couldn't get in.

2227
01:40:30,151 --> 01:40:33,460
It was the most-viewed show ever
in the history of this stage.

2228
01:40:33,529 --> 01:40:34,445
Wow.
[ speaking indistinctly ]

2229
01:40:34,614 --> 01:40:35,646
Yeah.
Congratulations.

2230
01:40:35,823 --> 01:40:39,724
Congratulations!
[ laughter ]

2231
01:40:39,869 --> 01:40:48,750
Man: Y'all give it up
for tlc!

2232
01:40:48,752 --> 01:40:52,195
Oh, yeah!

2233
01:40:52,298 --> 01:40:58,485
♪♪

2234
01:40:58,554 --> 01:41:01,371
[ cheers and applause ]

2235
01:41:01,641 --> 01:41:04,642
Now, honey, if lisa was
still alive today...
If lisa was still alive...

2236
01:41:04,936 --> 01:41:07,027
She would be the female kanye.
That, I know.
Yes, she would.

2237
01:41:07,188 --> 01:41:11,423
She didn't care
what<i> nobody</i> thinks.

2238
01:41:11,526 --> 01:41:12,516
Nothing.

2239
01:41:12,693 --> 01:41:14,609
Like, that has to be
a great feeling.

2240
01:41:14,695 --> 01:41:16,278
What's left?
What you talking about?

2241
01:41:16,364 --> 01:41:18,505
After 30 years...
30 years!

2242
01:41:18,574 --> 01:41:19,657
...Of being together.

2243
01:41:19,826 --> 01:41:21,375
We still got a lot to do.

2244
01:41:21,452 --> 01:41:22,493
♪ I ain't 2 proud 2 beg ♪

2245
01:41:22,787 --> 01:41:26,046
♪ I ain't 2 proud 2 beg, y'all,
no, I ain't 2 proud 2 beg ♪

2246
01:41:26,207 --> 01:41:28,866
♪ I ain't 2 proud,
I ain't 2 proud 2 beg ♪

2247
01:41:29,085 --> 01:41:31,535
♪ I said I ain't 2 proud,
I ain't 2 proud ♪

2248
01:41:31,712 --> 01:41:33,778
♪ I ain't 2 proud 2 beg ♪

2249
01:41:33,965 --> 01:41:36,039
♪ ain't 2 proud,
I ain't 2 proud 2 beg ♪

2250
01:41:36,217 --> 01:41:37,591
♪ I ain't 2 proud 2 beg ♪

2251
01:41:37,885 --> 01:41:40,845
♪ y'all, I ain't 2 proud,
I ain't 2 proud 2 beg ♪

2252
01:41:41,139 --> 01:41:44,398
-♪ I ain't 2 proud 2 beg ♪
-♪ I ain't 2 proud 2 beg ♪

2253
01:41:44,559 --> 01:41:47,734
♪ I ain't 2 proud,
I ain't 2 proud 2 beg ♪

2254
01:41:47,812 --> 01:41:49,036
♪ I ain't 2 proud 2 beg ♪

2255
01:41:49,105 --> 01:41:49,961
♪ I ain't 2 proud ♪

2256
01:41:50,106 --> 01:41:51,813
♪ I ain't 2 proud 2 beg ♪

2257
01:41:51,899 --> 01:41:54,191
♪ I ain't 2, I ain't 2,
I ain't 2 proud 2 beg ♪

2258
01:41:54,402 --> 01:41:57,802
♪ tlc isn't 2 proud 2 beg ♪

2259
01:41:57,947 --> 01:42:00,447
♪ I ain't 2 proud 2 beg, no ♪