1 00:00:03,187 --> 00:00:04,253 New york city. 2 00:00:04,505 --> 00:00:07,122 [woman] happy new year! 3 00:00:07,124 --> 00:00:10,342 At the dawn of the 80s, it was exploding with opportunity. 4 00:00:11,345 --> 00:00:13,962 [newsreader] boom times, that's what the numbers signal today, 5 00:00:13,964 --> 00:00:16,682 An economy that's on a roll in this country. 6 00:00:16,684 --> 00:00:20,185 A place to seek money, power, fame. 7 00:00:20,187 --> 00:00:24,690 Amid the glitz and greed, five titans seized their moment. 8 00:00:27,311 --> 00:00:30,645 By the mid 80s, they'd figured out that to get what they wanted, 9 00:00:30,647 --> 00:00:33,190 They just had to go to the media. 10 00:00:33,192 --> 00:00:36,285 And the media was more than happy to oblige. 11 00:00:38,039 --> 00:00:40,822 A wall street magician was basking in the spotlight. 12 00:00:40,824 --> 00:00:43,450 [ivan boesky] I predict that this is just the beginning. 13 00:00:43,452 --> 00:00:45,952 Even as his crimes grew more and more brazen. 14 00:00:45,954 --> 00:00:48,547 [james b stewart] this was gonna come crashing down on him. 15 00:00:48,549 --> 00:00:50,883 A real estate mogul was waist-deep in red ink. 16 00:00:51,552 --> 00:00:54,503 [natalie byfield] trump was particularly good at playing the media. 17 00:00:54,505 --> 00:00:57,056 Even as he convinced the world it was just the opposite. 18 00:00:57,058 --> 00:01:00,175 Oh donald, oh donald, you are a big deal. 19 00:01:00,177 --> 00:01:05,180 [emily fox] it is the greatest charade that donald trump ever pulled off. 20 00:01:05,182 --> 00:01:07,516 The hotel queen was winning over the public. 21 00:01:07,518 --> 00:01:09,184 [leona helmsley] look at the shape of the head, 22 00:01:09,186 --> 00:01:12,187 You can see the brain just sits there. I'm very serious. 23 00:01:12,189 --> 00:01:16,316 But behind her castle walls, she was nothing but wicked. 24 00:01:16,318 --> 00:01:20,329 And as a publicity-hungry prosecutor plotted his next heroic act for the papers... 25 00:01:20,581 --> 00:01:25,367 I mean, it was crazy. Us attorneys aren't supposed to do that kind of stuff. 26 00:01:25,369 --> 00:01:28,703 A newly christened mob boss mocked him in those very same pages. 27 00:01:28,705 --> 00:01:32,415 [newsreader] outfoxing the foxes in a big stakes game of cops and robbers 28 00:01:32,417 --> 00:01:34,426 That has made gotti kind of a legend. 29 00:01:34,428 --> 00:01:36,762 [george gabriel] the downside to the real mobsters is, 30 00:01:36,764 --> 00:01:38,097 Who needs this attention? 31 00:01:38,099 --> 00:01:39,932 We're a secret organization. 32 00:01:40,884 --> 00:01:43,009 [bryan burrough] even for a crook, he was a smart guy. 33 00:01:43,011 --> 00:01:46,230 But he made the mistake of dealing with people who weren't. 34 00:01:46,890 --> 00:01:50,517 [bill dowling] she would lash out at you and I saw it happen to a number of people. 35 00:01:50,519 --> 00:01:58,358 [tony schwartz] was the story that I told completely, ultimately false? Yes. 36 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:03,363 These five titans would reshape the city and the world we live in today. 37 00:02:03,365 --> 00:02:07,075 By the mid 80s, they'd mastered the art of fame. 38 00:02:07,077 --> 00:02:10,712 But soon they'd learn that exposure can burn. 39 00:02:34,062 --> 00:02:36,396 [newsreader] when new yorkers pick up their tabloids, 40 00:02:36,398 --> 00:02:40,567 The daily news and the post each morning, they expect the headlines to pack a wallop. 41 00:02:40,569 --> 00:02:42,402 And they do. 42 00:02:42,404 --> 00:02:44,163 For died-in-the-wool new yorkers, 43 00:02:44,165 --> 00:02:46,948 There's nothing quite like a good juicy scandal 44 00:02:46,950 --> 00:02:50,502 And in the mid 80s, the press served up one after another. 45 00:02:50,913 --> 00:02:54,789 [jonathan mahler] crime, money, power, what was happening in this country 46 00:02:54,791 --> 00:02:58,886 Created the sort of perfect for tabloid journalism and for this kind of moment. 47 00:03:00,130 --> 00:03:02,964 [fox] every day it was just a back and forth 48 00:03:02,966 --> 00:03:05,184 Between the daily news and the new york post 49 00:03:05,186 --> 00:03:08,637 And it helped the new york tabloids have constant fodder, 50 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,939 Which they desperately needed every day. 51 00:03:11,975 --> 00:03:14,976 [michael musto] the 80s is when the tabloids really started battling it out. 52 00:03:14,978 --> 00:03:20,073 And the people that emerged certainly had a knack for working the media. 53 00:03:20,317 --> 00:03:22,525 [byfield] there was a lot of attention in the media 54 00:03:22,527 --> 00:03:25,946 To business and the captains of industry. 55 00:03:25,948 --> 00:03:28,165 They became celebrities. 56 00:03:28,325 --> 00:03:30,542 [glenn plaskin] this was better than dynasty. 57 00:03:30,544 --> 00:03:33,828 [blake carrington] damn you alexis, I'm gonna kill you. 58 00:03:33,830 --> 00:03:35,047 Don't! 59 00:03:35,382 --> 00:03:37,966 [glenn plaskin] this was real life dynasty. 60 00:03:38,168 --> 00:03:43,472 [charles bagli] at this point, developers had almost supplanted movie stars in the gossip column 61 00:03:43,724 --> 00:03:47,676 Everything they did was so amusing, so wonderful. 62 00:03:47,678 --> 00:03:49,895 [david cay johnston] and one of the biggest people 63 00:03:49,897 --> 00:03:52,231 Who's benefited from this is donald trump. 64 00:03:54,643 --> 00:03:59,688 He came, he saw, he conquered. And as the decade pressed on, 65 00:03:59,690 --> 00:04:03,316 The young developer from the outer boroughs was only growing bolder. 66 00:04:03,318 --> 00:04:06,078 [johnston] he had built trump tower, which made a tremendous amount of money. 67 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,998 He had two casinos that were throwing cash at him like crazy. 68 00:04:10,367 --> 00:04:15,087 [michael kruse] but he also wants more. More, more, more. 69 00:04:15,089 --> 00:04:18,707 He was determined to see his name splashed across the sky line. 70 00:04:18,709 --> 00:04:22,002 But first, he'd need his name splashed across the headlines. 71 00:04:22,004 --> 00:04:28,174 The fact that new york was the media capital of the world allowed him 72 00:04:28,176 --> 00:04:34,147 To create the persona, to create the celebrity, create the name donald trump. 73 00:04:34,725 --> 00:04:36,850 The whole ethos of donald trump's life has been, 74 00:04:36,852 --> 00:04:39,278 "look at me, how rich I am, look how successful I am." 75 00:04:39,855 --> 00:04:42,531 It's this mythology that has been built up. 76 00:04:43,284 --> 00:04:45,450 [newsreader] you cannot walk far in manhattan these days 77 00:04:45,452 --> 00:04:48,570 Without seeing a piece of real estate bearing the trump name. 78 00:04:48,572 --> 00:04:51,957 It looked like a hugely successful operation. 79 00:04:51,959 --> 00:04:58,130 It was important to maintain that image because image was reality. 80 00:04:58,281 --> 00:04:59,965 [newsreader] donald trump has become 81 00:04:59,967 --> 00:05:02,917 One of america's best known and most successful builders. 82 00:05:02,919 --> 00:05:05,137 [newsreader] turning a $40 million real estate business 83 00:05:05,139 --> 00:05:07,547 Into a billion dollar empire. 84 00:05:07,549 --> 00:05:10,475 [letterman] ...Has enough money to give everyone in the audience tonight a million dollars. 85 00:05:10,477 --> 00:05:14,271 [applause] 86 00:05:14,556 --> 00:05:18,266 [newsreader] ok. Ok, we'll see what kind of mood he's in. 87 00:05:18,268 --> 00:05:20,360 [laughter and applause] 88 00:05:21,155 --> 00:05:25,106 [johnston] at the time, bankers were doing many more loans based on reputation 89 00:05:25,108 --> 00:05:29,736 And so when donald gets magazine covers and tv shows about how rich he is 90 00:05:29,738 --> 00:05:33,498 And featuring his helicopter, bankers feel some sense of confidence in him. 91 00:05:33,500 --> 00:05:37,502 That's why he really wanted to be on the forbes 400 list. 92 00:05:50,851 --> 00:05:55,470 [sue carswell] back in the 1980s this john barron guy was one of his publicists. 93 00:05:55,472 --> 00:05:59,191 He was the go to guy to get, you know, trump goods. 94 00:06:04,147 --> 00:06:05,980 [carswell] and he would say, "well, you know, 95 00:06:05,982 --> 00:06:09,201 "I'm just calling for donald and I need to tell you this story." 96 00:06:15,042 --> 00:06:17,992 But they were always him. It was donald trump. 97 00:06:17,994 --> 00:06:20,286 It's not like he has a subtle voice. 98 00:06:20,288 --> 00:06:23,757 Donald trump as john barron, it's just donald trump. 99 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:30,055 [barbara res] john barron is trump's alter ego, I guess, I don't know. It was his alias. 100 00:06:30,057 --> 00:06:33,558 He was doing the press, he was doing the pr. He was making the phone calls. 101 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:39,013 [ken auletta] he just concocted this whole false reality. 102 00:06:39,015 --> 00:06:43,068 So he goes to forbes and tells them, "I have all this money." 103 00:07:11,765 --> 00:07:13,890 And forbes puts him on this list. 104 00:07:14,935 --> 00:07:20,555 [res] I mean, trump was lying so that he could move himself up on the forbes 400, 105 00:07:20,557 --> 00:07:22,515 You know, talking about his wealth. 106 00:07:22,517 --> 00:07:25,193 Wealthy people don't do that, they keep that to themselves. 107 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:30,023 [tony schwartz] his life underneath that persona and sheen 108 00:07:30,025 --> 00:07:33,860 Was arguably falling apart economically. 109 00:07:33,862 --> 00:07:39,073 He was over extended on a lot of his loans, both in atlantic city and in new york. 110 00:07:39,075 --> 00:07:44,245 At the same time he was buying all the accouterments of the wealthy. 111 00:07:44,247 --> 00:07:50,210 The plane, the football team. His second casino hotel, the castle. 112 00:07:50,212 --> 00:07:54,714 Actually he had lost a staggering amount of money, 113 00:07:54,716 --> 00:07:57,592 A billion dollars in ten years, 114 00:07:57,594 --> 00:08:00,929 More than any other individual in the united states. 115 00:08:00,931 --> 00:08:06,267 One of the most amazing things about all of this was he's also writing and publishing 116 00:08:06,269 --> 00:08:12,398 The art of the deal while he is losing money on every deal that he was making. 117 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,994 Donald just talk for a minute, if you would, about the art of the deal 118 00:08:15,996 --> 00:08:17,946 And your business philosophy. 119 00:08:17,948 --> 00:08:22,075 [donald trump] okay. You've either got it or you don't. 120 00:08:22,077 --> 00:08:25,787 The book the art of the deal was the first thing that gave donald trump 121 00:08:25,789 --> 00:08:29,082 A sort of national audience and it sold millions of copies. 122 00:08:29,084 --> 00:08:31,426 It was actually written by tony schwartz. 123 00:08:32,796 --> 00:08:39,809 Trump was not involved for even a minute in any aspect of writing the book. 124 00:08:40,971 --> 00:08:46,608 I wrote the book and miraculously, he read the book. 125 00:08:47,477 --> 00:08:48,693 How you doing? 126 00:08:50,030 --> 00:08:53,481 From the very first interview that I did with him for the book, 127 00:08:53,483 --> 00:08:59,153 It was clear that there was almost a complete inability 128 00:08:59,155 --> 00:09:00,989 To sit still and answer questions 129 00:09:00,991 --> 00:09:02,999 For more than a few minutes at a time. 130 00:09:03,785 --> 00:09:07,879 Because I couldn't get from trump detail on the deals he was doing, 131 00:09:07,881 --> 00:09:12,292 I would ultimately go to other players in those deals and try to flesh it out. 132 00:09:12,294 --> 00:09:16,504 What I would discover is that their version of what happened in the deals 133 00:09:16,506 --> 00:09:18,339 Was quite different than his version. 134 00:09:18,341 --> 00:09:21,801 And his version was always the most self aggrandizing version 135 00:09:21,803 --> 00:09:24,813 And it was often an inaccurate version. 136 00:09:25,732 --> 00:09:30,652 So was the story that I told completely, ultimately false? 137 00:09:31,238 --> 00:09:33,738 Yes. It was. 138 00:09:34,241 --> 00:09:40,528 It was an invented story, invented at a level far beyond what I recognized even 139 00:09:40,530 --> 00:09:46,034 At the time, but it was never anything close to the reality of who he was. 140 00:09:46,036 --> 00:09:50,663 People who read the book uncritically come away thinking, "what a genius he is." 141 00:09:50,665 --> 00:09:52,707 It really put donald on the map. 142 00:09:52,709 --> 00:09:56,836 [kathleen] trump is taking on new meaning. Tycoon, billionaire, maverick. 143 00:09:56,838 --> 00:10:01,099 It's written all over new york and atlantic city and now it's on the cover of a book. 144 00:10:01,551 --> 00:10:04,936 How important is your word and your handshake in a deal? Or does everything have to be-- 145 00:10:04,938 --> 00:10:06,271 Very important. 146 00:10:06,273 --> 00:10:07,981 What? How does it make the difference? 147 00:10:08,683 --> 00:10:11,901 Handshake and deals are just to me very important, kathleen. 148 00:10:12,613 --> 00:10:16,564 This was a man who is portraying his great wealth, 149 00:10:16,566 --> 00:10:19,951 His enormous success, his growing businesses, 150 00:10:19,953 --> 00:10:24,864 But the reality was is that he was losing more money 151 00:10:24,866 --> 00:10:28,242 Than I think any american was at that time. 152 00:10:28,244 --> 00:10:30,870 What do you think people are gonna get out of it, if they read it? 153 00:10:30,872 --> 00:10:33,706 I mean, what can someone at home on a $30,000-- 154 00:10:33,708 --> 00:10:38,011 It's really a study of life, kathleen. How do to it and how to really make life. 155 00:10:39,089 --> 00:10:41,047 How to make life. 156 00:10:41,049 --> 00:10:43,892 How to make life. How to be with life and how to live with life. 157 00:10:45,762 --> 00:10:50,106 It is the greatest charade that donald trump ever pulled off. 158 00:10:52,268 --> 00:10:57,271 This is a time period where we're celebrating money, 159 00:10:57,273 --> 00:10:59,532 And who could make the most of it. 160 00:11:00,276 --> 00:11:06,906 And the media was very complicit in exposing how brilliant and great 161 00:11:06,908 --> 00:11:11,452 And wonderful these people were, it didn't have to be true. 162 00:11:11,454 --> 00:11:14,130 And that is on us. 163 00:11:14,841 --> 00:11:18,126 [michael kruse] for donald trump some of that started to go to his head 164 00:11:18,128 --> 00:11:21,846 And he considered himself utterly invincible. 165 00:11:21,848 --> 00:11:26,434 He was going to do exactly what he wanted for as long as he could get away with it. 166 00:11:31,191 --> 00:11:33,024 [mahler] there had always been a culture of money in new york. 167 00:11:33,026 --> 00:11:34,642 There had always been rich people in new york 168 00:11:34,644 --> 00:11:36,945 But there had never been a donald trump before. 169 00:11:37,689 --> 00:11:40,481 There had always been luxury hotels in new york 170 00:11:40,483 --> 00:11:43,243 But there had never been a helmsley palace. 171 00:11:43,537 --> 00:11:45,870 And there had always been gangsters in new york. 172 00:11:45,872 --> 00:11:48,373 But there had never been a john gotti, 173 00:11:48,375 --> 00:11:52,794 A guy who was in the tabloids all the time and seemingly loved it. 174 00:11:56,216 --> 00:11:59,459 He was the capo who wanted to be don. 175 00:11:59,461 --> 00:12:02,762 And he decided he wouldn't wait for his due, he'd seize it. 176 00:12:07,177 --> 00:12:10,303 [newsreader] you are looking at the body of paul castellano, 177 00:12:10,305 --> 00:12:14,182 The boss of all bosses of american organized crime. 178 00:12:14,184 --> 00:12:16,851 [newsreader] paul castellano, a man authorities say 179 00:12:16,853 --> 00:12:19,353 Was the most horrible mafia boss in the nation, 180 00:12:19,355 --> 00:12:23,074 Was shot and killed in front of a new york city restaurant tonight. 181 00:12:24,319 --> 00:12:27,495 [mahler] within hours everybody knew that gotti was responsible. 182 00:12:28,490 --> 00:12:31,624 We understood what was going on through fbi informants. 183 00:12:32,252 --> 00:12:34,368 [george gabriel] killing the boss is like the cardinal rule. 184 00:12:34,370 --> 00:12:36,871 You can't do that. You don't do that. 185 00:12:36,873 --> 00:12:39,090 [michel chertoff] it was a very bold attack. 186 00:12:39,092 --> 00:12:43,261 [newsreader] authorities believe the brutal process of succession is already underway. 187 00:12:47,926 --> 00:12:50,185 [gabriel] gotti called a meeting of all the captains. 188 00:12:53,181 --> 00:12:56,524 And they say, "all right, we're not sure what happened to paul. He's dead." 189 00:12:58,353 --> 00:13:01,529 But we're here tonight to pick another boss. 190 00:13:02,774 --> 00:13:04,532 [bruce mouw] everyone in the room knew who did it. 191 00:13:06,402 --> 00:13:09,287 But they had to play along with this farce. 192 00:13:11,282 --> 00:13:12,916 Frank decicco stands up. 193 00:13:14,369 --> 00:13:16,336 He says, "I nominate john gotti to become boss of the gambino family." 194 00:13:18,414 --> 00:13:21,916 [gabriel] the captains that he conspired with were walking around them all, 195 00:13:21,918 --> 00:13:24,544 Basically they were there armed and if anybody was gonna oppose it, 196 00:13:24,546 --> 00:13:26,054 That was gonna be a problem. 197 00:13:28,591 --> 00:13:34,729 Everybody in the room, okay, we're good. The family's intact. 198 00:13:35,431 --> 00:13:36,940 Everybody leaves happy. 199 00:13:38,819 --> 00:13:41,143 [newsreader] john gotti allegedly runs an enterprise 200 00:13:41,145 --> 00:13:42,987 As powerful as many giant corporations. 201 00:13:44,491 --> 00:13:48,910 [sean deveney] once he got to power, gotti now wanted to be the peacock. 202 00:13:50,113 --> 00:13:55,408 Because he'd spent so long feeling underappreciated within the gambino family, 203 00:13:55,410 --> 00:13:59,420 When he gets to the top of it, it almost wants to make up for lost time. 204 00:14:00,957 --> 00:14:06,135 [ed mcdonald] he became much more noticeable. He craved the attention he was getting. 205 00:14:06,629 --> 00:14:10,682 [gabriel] all of a sudden he starts wearing the $2000 suits and the handmade ties. 206 00:14:11,009 --> 00:14:15,144 And he's going out to the finest restaurants, clubs. 207 00:14:15,972 --> 00:14:19,181 He's attracting page six attention. 208 00:14:19,183 --> 00:14:20,775 He's living the life. 209 00:14:21,019 --> 00:14:23,352 [newsreader] gotti has become quickly recognizable, 210 00:14:23,354 --> 00:14:28,199 If only for his custom-made suits and his frequent stops at the stylarama hair salon. 211 00:14:28,526 --> 00:14:35,197 [vito bollettieri] he's got very good taste. He likes his hair extremely perfect. 212 00:14:35,199 --> 00:14:38,543 This is against everything that the mafia has ever done 213 00:14:38,545 --> 00:14:41,045 And the way it's conducted business. 214 00:14:41,047 --> 00:14:45,291 There's a term in italian called omerta , which basically means "silence." 215 00:14:45,293 --> 00:14:49,128 If you're a boss you don't want anybody to know you're a boss. 216 00:14:49,130 --> 00:14:54,517 And that's why generations of mafia heads before him hadn't acted that way. 217 00:14:55,011 --> 00:15:00,640 He is handsome, he does wear $2000 suits. He is well groomed. 218 00:15:00,642 --> 00:15:03,234 Every hair is always in place. He's quick with one liners. 219 00:15:04,228 --> 00:15:07,188 [mcdonald] john gotti was loved by the tabloids. 220 00:15:07,190 --> 00:15:09,649 And by the television stations, they just couldn't get enough of him. 221 00:15:09,651 --> 00:15:13,152 I mean, he was good copy. And john gotti fed into this. 222 00:15:13,154 --> 00:15:16,998 People just, people loved watching him, loved seeing this whole spectacle unfold. 223 00:15:17,083 --> 00:15:23,254 We have here john gotti's top ten tax tips. John gotti's top ten tax tips. 224 00:15:23,256 --> 00:15:28,259 I've met him, I think he's a wonderful man. I think he's probably largely misunderstood. 225 00:15:28,261 --> 00:15:30,261 [laughter] 226 00:15:30,263 --> 00:15:34,173 Quite frankly there were a lot of people, you know, they just dismissed 227 00:15:34,175 --> 00:15:38,177 How bad of a guy he was. And that was the knack that he had. 228 00:15:38,179 --> 00:15:42,523 Number nine: Guys who escape from the trunk of your car may be considered business losses. 229 00:15:42,609 --> 00:15:44,016 [laughter] 230 00:15:44,602 --> 00:15:46,936 And number eight: No matter how much he relies on your business, 231 00:15:46,938 --> 00:15:49,280 A funeral director does not count as a dependent. 232 00:15:49,449 --> 00:15:50,740 [laughter] 233 00:15:55,530 --> 00:16:00,291 But he was a killer. I mean, this was not a tv show. 234 00:16:02,954 --> 00:16:05,630 Under his leadership, as with all the bosses, you know, 235 00:16:05,632 --> 00:16:08,257 People who got in the way wound up getting hurt. 236 00:16:08,626 --> 00:16:10,343 He was ruthless. 237 00:16:11,805 --> 00:16:14,138 Gotti's executed someone because he didn't show up when gotti summoned him. 238 00:16:14,757 --> 00:16:17,258 And he severed his head off. 239 00:16:17,260 --> 00:16:22,888 James mcbratney, robert dibernardo, tommy spinelli, big gus sclafani 240 00:16:22,890 --> 00:16:25,817 Gotti was just a blood thirsty, violent criminal. 241 00:16:25,819 --> 00:16:27,986 As the gambino family head, 242 00:16:27,988 --> 00:16:33,649 It has become a much more violent, violent institution than it was previously 243 00:16:33,651 --> 00:16:35,493 Because gotti, that's his outlook, 244 00:16:35,495 --> 00:16:39,038 Is if I can't get my way, I'm just gonna kill you. 245 00:16:39,657 --> 00:16:41,907 He was the jekyll and hyde if you will, right, 246 00:16:41,909 --> 00:16:45,411 The guy that the public got to see and what they didn't see 247 00:16:45,413 --> 00:16:48,956 Was the ruthless guy behind those closed doors 248 00:16:48,958 --> 00:16:52,501 Who's ordering hits, taking over business, 249 00:16:52,503 --> 00:16:55,555 Who's doing whatever he wants in a very strong way. 250 00:16:56,257 --> 00:16:59,759 Downside to the real mobsters is who needs this attention? 251 00:16:59,761 --> 00:17:03,980 This isn't what we do. We're a secret organization. But for john, it worked. 252 00:17:04,524 --> 00:17:08,443 If you're going to be that public, it makes him a target to law enforcement. 253 00:17:08,862 --> 00:17:13,105 And this was a guy who was not careful, this was a guy who was violent 254 00:17:13,107 --> 00:17:16,200 And this was a guy who was basically doomed 255 00:17:16,202 --> 00:17:19,787 To take the mafia and see it implode on itself. 256 00:17:22,492 --> 00:17:25,034 In the mid 80s, new york was booming 257 00:17:25,036 --> 00:17:28,546 And the biggest winners were putting on the greatest show on earth. 258 00:17:28,548 --> 00:17:31,290 And yet they faced increasingly stiff competition 259 00:17:31,292 --> 00:17:34,844 Because a revolution in television was about to change everything. 260 00:17:36,172 --> 00:17:38,380 I want my mtv. 261 00:17:38,382 --> 00:17:40,308 I want my mtv. 262 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,552 [announcer] mtv music television 263 00:17:43,554 --> 00:17:46,180 It was the ultimate springboard for fame. 264 00:17:46,182 --> 00:17:50,610 Transforming local celebrities from new york's music scene into television superstars. 265 00:17:52,522 --> 00:17:55,406 We've gotta look at the ramones and their triumphant return 266 00:17:55,408 --> 00:17:58,785 To their original starting place right here in new york city. 267 00:17:59,529 --> 00:18:04,198 [kurt andersen] mtv did express a certain kind of new york inflected cool. 268 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:10,371 And the density of club culture and street culture and graffiti as art adding to the sense of, 269 00:18:10,373 --> 00:18:14,708 "look at all this innovative, stylish stuff that is happening in the city." 270 00:18:14,710 --> 00:18:18,879 And in the same way that a lot of new york city and the kind of cultural excitement 271 00:18:18,881 --> 00:18:22,716 Was uptown meets downtown, mtv kind of expressed that. 272 00:18:22,718 --> 00:18:25,394 [michael musto] and it was exciting. I watched it day and night. 273 00:18:25,772 --> 00:18:29,890 And to be a music star at this point, you couldn't just be a good singer. 274 00:18:29,892 --> 00:18:31,150 You had to have a personality. 275 00:18:32,703 --> 00:18:37,073 You had to be a self made cyndi lauper. It was perfect for the 80s. 276 00:18:37,784 --> 00:18:42,069 [lizzy goodman] there was brilliant art being made in the form of music videos 277 00:18:42,071 --> 00:18:45,739 By all of the artists that became the biggest pop stars of this age. 278 00:18:45,741 --> 00:18:50,294 Madonna, who had come from this underground club world in new york, 279 00:18:50,296 --> 00:18:54,132 Understood a visual medium in a way that artists before her had not. 280 00:18:54,134 --> 00:18:58,794 And mtv had this role of populating a stage 281 00:18:58,796 --> 00:19:01,139 That was, all of a sudden, enormous 282 00:19:01,141 --> 00:19:05,977 With like, really weird, beautiful, odd pop art. 283 00:19:05,979 --> 00:19:10,764 [darryl mcdaniels] in the 80s, mtv was able to put hip hop into living rooms 284 00:19:10,766 --> 00:19:13,234 Not only across the nation, across the globe. 285 00:19:13,769 --> 00:19:15,436 [michael holman] from hip hop's humble beginnings, 286 00:19:15,438 --> 00:19:17,572 With the reach and the power of mtv, 287 00:19:18,107 --> 00:19:22,034 You have artists like run-dmc appearing on them and just changing everything. 288 00:19:22,162 --> 00:19:24,078 You know, with "walk this way" or "my adidas." 289 00:19:24,447 --> 00:19:26,914 [run-dmc rapping] 290 00:19:29,827 --> 00:19:36,624 They knew to take adidas shoes and make a song out of it and it becomes a hit record 291 00:19:36,626 --> 00:19:39,927 And kids go to the concert holding their adidas shoes up in the air. 292 00:19:40,129 --> 00:19:43,631 Run-dmc exploded, we was the first to do everything. 293 00:19:43,633 --> 00:19:47,134 First to go gold, first to go platinum, first on the cover of rolling stone . 294 00:19:47,136 --> 00:19:50,313 First on mtv, which was huge here in new york city. 295 00:19:51,307 --> 00:19:55,193 [holman] they become international sensations. And the world comes to them. 296 00:19:55,195 --> 00:20:00,522 The world comes to hip hop. That's how big it is. That's how important it is. 297 00:20:00,524 --> 00:20:04,652 It was a brave new world and whether you were a rock star or a titan of industry, 298 00:20:04,654 --> 00:20:07,488 Talent alone was no longer enough. 299 00:20:07,490 --> 00:20:11,334 It was about selling an image, and image was everything. 300 00:20:11,544 --> 00:20:13,827 The 80s redefined what success meant. 301 00:20:13,829 --> 00:20:17,632 You could be a self-made millionaire if you radiated something. 302 00:20:19,502 --> 00:20:23,837 [tina brown] they were colorful, they were rich. They were calling out to be covered. 303 00:20:23,839 --> 00:20:29,176 You know, this was the beginning of making ceos celebrities, which they really weren't before 304 00:20:29,178 --> 00:20:30,886 Before they were just boring people 305 00:20:30,888 --> 00:20:32,897 Who sat behind desks that you didn't wanna write about. 306 00:20:32,899 --> 00:20:36,183 Now all of a sudden they're posing with manhattan skylines behind them, 307 00:20:36,185 --> 00:20:38,569 Thrusting themselves over the desk. 308 00:20:38,571 --> 00:20:42,356 It then became not enough to be in the fortune 500. 309 00:20:42,358 --> 00:20:45,025 I mean, you wanted to be the face of your company. 310 00:20:45,027 --> 00:20:48,621 The ultimate example of that was, of course, leona helmsley. 311 00:20:51,534 --> 00:20:54,585 Whether you knew her as the queen of mean or the queen of the palace, 312 00:20:54,587 --> 00:20:58,080 She was a woman reigning supreme in a man's world. 313 00:20:58,082 --> 00:21:02,093 And with the limelight firmly fixed on her, she'd never let you forget it. 314 00:21:02,095 --> 00:21:05,179 Am I comfortable? I make a living. 315 00:21:06,382 --> 00:21:10,059 [woman] leona helmsley was her own brilliant public relations person. 316 00:21:12,430 --> 00:21:15,931 [newsreader] leona helmsley, the emblem of the helmsley hotel empire. 317 00:21:15,933 --> 00:21:19,026 [newsreader 2] leona helmsley, the hotel queen billionaire. 318 00:21:20,780 --> 00:21:24,940 [glenn plaskin] nobody had ever taken their name and their face 319 00:21:24,942 --> 00:21:30,779 And turned it into such a personal brand, much less in real estate. 320 00:21:30,781 --> 00:21:33,949 Trump would follow in her footsteps, in a sense, 321 00:21:33,951 --> 00:21:36,076 Because he would start putting his name 322 00:21:36,078 --> 00:21:40,581 On trump tower, trump palace, trump park, trump everything. 323 00:21:40,583 --> 00:21:46,795 And so she had just the right face, name, and personality. 324 00:21:46,797 --> 00:21:51,425 The pillows were gonna be perfect. The rooms were gonna be impeccably clean. 325 00:21:51,427 --> 00:21:55,271 The flowers, the carpet, everything was gonna be perfect. 326 00:21:55,982 --> 00:22:00,818 [elaine silverstein] this wealthy, regal woman was going to be attending 327 00:22:00,820 --> 00:22:03,771 To the details in the hotel and people believed it. 328 00:22:03,773 --> 00:22:08,108 [elaine taylor-gordon] what could be more fabulous than being treated like royalty. 329 00:22:08,110 --> 00:22:13,414 But while her guests may have reveled in her attention, others were left frozen in fear. 330 00:22:14,116 --> 00:22:17,668 [bill dowling] she had an incredibly good sense of how to build a bond 331 00:22:17,670 --> 00:22:21,955 With the customers of the hotel chain. But everyone was scared of leona. 332 00:22:21,957 --> 00:22:25,501 She would lash out at you and I saw it happen to a number of people 333 00:22:25,503 --> 00:22:27,428 Who had worked with her for years. 334 00:22:28,130 --> 00:22:30,631 At the restaurant of the helmsley palace, 335 00:22:30,633 --> 00:22:33,934 If there was as speck of dust on a glass or a saucer, 336 00:22:34,136 --> 00:22:39,973 She would call the waiter over, she would fire him and smash the saucer on the floor. 337 00:22:39,975 --> 00:22:45,312 If service was slow or if the soup was cold, she would just go nuts. 338 00:22:45,314 --> 00:22:47,523 "now you're fired, goodbye." 339 00:22:47,525 --> 00:22:51,652 Just like the queen of hearts in alice in wonderland. 340 00:22:51,654 --> 00:22:54,163 Off with their head! 341 00:22:56,876 --> 00:22:58,250 Off with your head. 342 00:22:58,828 --> 00:23:01,796 Leona was a petty tyrant, really. 343 00:23:02,665 --> 00:23:06,008 [dowling] leona helmsley was the most vain person I've ever known 344 00:23:06,377 --> 00:23:13,265 And this queen stands guard campaign fed into that like pouring gasoline on a flame. 345 00:23:14,343 --> 00:23:19,897 She was addicted to fame. She was no longer the immigrant girl, 346 00:23:19,899 --> 00:23:22,525 Scrambling up the ladder. 347 00:23:23,894 --> 00:23:26,895 She wanted to step out there in the gorgeous gown 348 00:23:26,897 --> 00:23:30,157 And have the klieg lights and be on harry's arm. 349 00:23:30,576 --> 00:23:35,621 It wasn't long after that that leona and harry bought dunnellen. 350 00:23:37,366 --> 00:23:41,877 This place fed into her queendom [laughs] when she bought it. 351 00:23:44,331 --> 00:23:46,206 [musto] they moved to greenwich, connecticut. 352 00:23:46,208 --> 00:23:48,759 But they don't just buy a house in greenwich, connecticut. 353 00:23:48,761 --> 00:23:51,512 They buy an estate, dunnellen hall. 354 00:23:52,256 --> 00:23:57,551 Dunnellen has 28 rooms, it's on 26 acres of land, 355 00:23:57,553 --> 00:24:00,896 It's 21,000 square feet of living space. 356 00:24:01,441 --> 00:24:03,774 [plaskin]it was like a big english country home 357 00:24:03,776 --> 00:24:08,654 And it all opened out into this beautiful back lawn. 358 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:13,659 [leona helmsley] I have sheep. One is bo, one is peep. 359 00:24:14,120 --> 00:24:16,778 Here bo. It's your mother. 360 00:24:16,780 --> 00:24:18,906 They are dumb. 361 00:24:18,908 --> 00:24:22,868 They walked the grounds with mike wallis. They talked about their second pool. 362 00:24:22,870 --> 00:24:24,795 [mike wallis] and up top? 363 00:24:24,797 --> 00:24:28,373 [harry helmsley] on top we're gonna have, of course, a dance floor. 364 00:24:28,375 --> 00:24:29,633 [singing] dance in an old fashioned way. 365 00:24:29,635 --> 00:24:31,960 It's none of my business, but, how much? 366 00:24:31,962 --> 00:24:34,805 And she would say, "I don't know." 367 00:24:34,807 --> 00:24:36,924 I don't know. 368 00:24:36,926 --> 00:24:42,563 Dunnellen was very grand. And she expected to be treated like a queen. 369 00:24:43,807 --> 00:24:45,766 [dowling] she wanted to be the real queen 370 00:24:45,768 --> 00:24:49,645 But there was no similarity between what she was like in real life 371 00:24:49,647 --> 00:24:53,941 And what the image was that she portrayed. And that always catches up with people. 372 00:24:53,943 --> 00:24:57,453 She believed that her standards were justified at dunnellen. 373 00:24:57,988 --> 00:25:00,915 To her they weren't indulgences, they were necessities. 374 00:25:03,619 --> 00:25:07,963 So this is the world she created for herself. And this would be the world of her downfall. 375 00:25:14,463 --> 00:25:19,850 Plus [laughs] the park lane, tplus the carlton house,g? , 376 00:25:19,852 --> 00:25:22,761 Plus the saint moritz plus the harley hotel. Plus, plus, plus, plus. 377 00:25:22,763 --> 00:25:24,137 Oh you get it. 378 00:25:24,139 --> 00:25:26,139 [burrough] there was an acceptance in the 80s 379 00:25:26,141 --> 00:25:28,651 Of, "ya make it, you know, when you show it." 380 00:25:28,769 --> 00:25:31,645 Bling. I mean, that was kind of a new thing. 381 00:25:31,647 --> 00:25:35,282 [dowling] greed will always be with us, it doesn't disappear. 382 00:25:35,859 --> 00:25:39,361 [maddrick] but by the mid 80s, the case against greed, 383 00:25:39,363 --> 00:25:44,542 The cultural restraint is no longer there. 384 00:25:44,544 --> 00:25:47,452 [newsreader] a new thinking gripped wall street, a new attitude. 385 00:25:47,454 --> 00:25:49,663 Get yours while the getting is good. 386 00:25:49,665 --> 00:25:52,833 [gil troy] the gospel of wealth of new york in the 1980s is that if you make money, 387 00:25:52,835 --> 00:25:57,462 Make sure to make more and more and more. 'cause that's your path to virtue. 388 00:25:57,464 --> 00:26:03,727 And ivan boesky was one of the great symbols of wall street greed in the 1980s. 389 00:26:06,473 --> 00:26:11,402 By 1985, the king of arbitrage was the biggest earner on wall street. 390 00:26:11,404 --> 00:26:14,730 But what he wanted even more was fame. 391 00:26:14,732 --> 00:26:19,860 To achieve it, he'd need to keep his crimes hidden while keeping himself front and center, 392 00:26:19,862 --> 00:26:22,830 A balancing act he could only manage for so long. 393 00:26:23,073 --> 00:26:27,042 Our guest tonight, ivan boesky, wall street's biggest independent speculator. 394 00:26:27,995 --> 00:26:31,830 The big boys in the business world, which sparked words like "corporate takeover." 395 00:26:31,832 --> 00:26:35,334 What's behind all of the activity now? What's it mean to us? 396 00:26:35,336 --> 00:26:39,388 Well, a man who knows a lot about it is ivan boesky. He's one of the big boys. 397 00:26:41,008 --> 00:26:44,718 [sorkin] he became emblematic of what wall street was in the 1980s, 398 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,180 He was the trader who had this impossible success. 399 00:26:48,182 --> 00:26:52,443 This is the horatio alger story, but just with a lot of zeros and commas. 400 00:26:53,771 --> 00:26:58,616 He was driven in a stretch limo and he was regal looking, but crude. 401 00:26:58,618 --> 00:27:02,861 [james b stewart] he always wanted to call attention to the fact 402 00:27:02,863 --> 00:27:04,955 That he made a lot of money. 403 00:27:05,741 --> 00:27:10,702 For example, he invited a group of people, including potential clients 404 00:27:10,704 --> 00:27:13,422 To a dinner at a very expensive restaurant. 405 00:27:13,707 --> 00:27:18,919 Boesky, in front of all these people, he said he'd order everything on the menu. 406 00:27:18,921 --> 00:27:21,930 [harvey pitt] everything on the menu. 407 00:27:23,717 --> 00:27:28,228 I mean, eating out with ivan was an adventure. 408 00:27:29,223 --> 00:27:34,735 [stewart] I will then taste everything on the menu and then decide what I want. 409 00:27:35,488 --> 00:27:36,945 He was... 410 00:27:38,473 --> 00:27:44,411 ...Odd. And he used that to his advantage. It was part of his mystique. 411 00:27:45,614 --> 00:27:50,075 By now, boesky had been the subject of fawning profiles. 412 00:27:50,077 --> 00:27:52,452 He was getting constant speaking invitations. 413 00:27:52,454 --> 00:27:57,841 It was both a sign of his own popularity but also the values of the time. 414 00:27:57,843 --> 00:28:00,252 There were wealthy people that you saw 415 00:28:00,254 --> 00:28:03,004 Both on the wall street journal and in people magazine. 416 00:28:03,006 --> 00:28:06,183 This was entirely new. Business became part of his zeitgeist. 417 00:28:06,185 --> 00:28:09,511 In america, one of the great things about this nation 418 00:28:09,513 --> 00:28:13,181 Is that we can seek profit. And I'm proud of that. 419 00:28:13,183 --> 00:28:16,768 [newsreader] boesky is pushing a book he's written called merger mania . 420 00:28:16,770 --> 00:28:20,480 [stewart] he became so famous, he wrote a book, it was a best seller. 421 00:28:20,482 --> 00:28:25,369 Now, his book purported to explain how he did this. 422 00:28:25,371 --> 00:28:31,283 We now know, of course, that merger mania was just part of the cover story. 423 00:28:31,285 --> 00:28:36,455 Nothing in merger mania had anything to do with his actual investment decisions. 424 00:28:36,457 --> 00:28:42,377 The information that was vital to him was confidential inside information. 425 00:28:42,379 --> 00:28:44,805 It was illegal to be disseminating. 426 00:28:45,883 --> 00:28:48,967 [bethany mclean] he's getting inside information from a variety of sources, 427 00:28:48,969 --> 00:28:53,981 Including marty siegel and he's using that to bet on deals and in pretty blatant ways 428 00:28:54,349 --> 00:29:00,520 Boesky and an investment banker named marty siegel were passing cash for information, 429 00:29:00,522 --> 00:29:03,690 Getting that information was steeling form shareholders. 430 00:29:03,692 --> 00:29:08,412 Maybe they tried to convince themselves it wasn't but that was pure rationalization. 431 00:29:09,239 --> 00:29:11,749 [mclean] and so, you could look at that book and say, 432 00:29:11,751 --> 00:29:14,701 "he's got this mammoth ego that now needs to be fed," 433 00:29:14,703 --> 00:29:18,038 Or you can see it as him trying to whitewash what he was doing 434 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:22,834 By putting this public narrative out there that's very different than what was, 435 00:29:22,836 --> 00:29:24,753 What was actually happening. 436 00:29:24,755 --> 00:29:28,089 But there's really, I guess, at this point, no number that's enough. 437 00:29:28,091 --> 00:29:33,345 It was incredibly risky for boesky to be out bragging 438 00:29:33,347 --> 00:29:36,389 And calling attention to his success. 439 00:29:36,391 --> 00:29:39,684 Which was only gonna lead to more scrutiny and questions 440 00:29:39,686 --> 00:29:44,022 But he couldn't resist the allure of publicity. 441 00:29:44,024 --> 00:29:47,692 What do you think the role of inside information is in the market today? 442 00:29:47,694 --> 00:29:52,864 I have no way of touching that. I think it's is a troubling matter 443 00:29:52,866 --> 00:29:55,867 To the interest of those of us in the industry 444 00:29:55,869 --> 00:30:00,088 That all such kinds of behaviors be eliminated isn't possible. 445 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,543 People who are committing crimes often can't resist tipping their hat 446 00:30:04,545 --> 00:30:06,804 And showing that there might be something going on. 447 00:30:07,381 --> 00:30:10,715 Would it be inside information if investors such as yourself 448 00:30:10,717 --> 00:30:13,218 Found it to your benefit to start a rumor? 449 00:30:13,220 --> 00:30:17,097 You have to understand that I'm a professional and one doesn't have the time 450 00:30:17,099 --> 00:30:21,485 To even concern himself with something as kind of childish as that. 451 00:30:21,487 --> 00:30:24,938 And that's usually the natural course of events. 452 00:30:24,940 --> 00:30:29,076 It takes a very special kind of fraudster to keep reining it in. 453 00:30:30,070 --> 00:30:33,330 [stewart] as boesky is doing all of this publicity, 454 00:30:33,332 --> 00:30:36,950 He secretly builds a network of people 455 00:30:36,952 --> 00:30:40,078 Who were funneling inside information to him 456 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,298 In return for rewards of one kind of another. 457 00:30:43,959 --> 00:30:47,252 And they were all enriching themselves illegally. 458 00:30:47,254 --> 00:30:52,007 You could argue that people always get careless as their fraud goes on longer. 459 00:30:52,009 --> 00:30:54,342 They get greedier and they get more reckless. 460 00:30:54,344 --> 00:30:58,355 It's almost akin to eating potato chips. 461 00:30:58,357 --> 00:31:02,142 The more potato chips you eat, the more you want. 462 00:31:02,144 --> 00:31:06,021 Ivan was a smart guy. Even for a crook he was a smart guy. 463 00:31:06,023 --> 00:31:09,608 But he made the mistake of dealing with people who weren't. 464 00:31:09,610 --> 00:31:11,702 Dennis levine would be exhibit a. 465 00:31:11,853 --> 00:31:15,622 [denis levine] I live for the high of making those trades, of doing the next deal. 466 00:31:15,782 --> 00:31:17,875 Dennis levine was a schmuck. 467 00:31:18,785 --> 00:31:21,545 Everybody knew a dennis levine. 468 00:31:21,955 --> 00:31:28,886 A schmucky kid who came here and cut corners to be somebody. He was such a putz. 469 00:31:29,713 --> 00:31:34,725 Dennis levine stumbled into the world of mergers and acquisitions. 470 00:31:34,727 --> 00:31:37,510 He was hired by drexel burnham lambert 471 00:31:37,512 --> 00:31:42,900 And trumpeted as their new investment banking star who'd be based in new york 472 00:31:42,902 --> 00:31:47,487 To compliment the milken operation on the west coast. 473 00:31:48,649 --> 00:31:51,408 Drexel has changed the face of american finance 474 00:31:51,410 --> 00:31:54,912 And this one man did it almost single handedly. 475 00:31:54,914 --> 00:31:58,165 It was really drexel, burnham, and particularly michael milken, 476 00:31:58,742 --> 00:32:05,088 Who used junk bonds to fuel the takeover booms, to finance corporate raiders. 477 00:32:05,090 --> 00:32:08,842 To shake up corporate america in a way that it had never confronted before. 478 00:32:12,089 --> 00:32:15,849 Drexel burnham lambert was the center of the information flow. 479 00:32:16,718 --> 00:32:20,679 [newsreader] dennis levine impressed colleagues as being very well wired 480 00:32:20,681 --> 00:32:24,733 To the other investment banking firms and to wall street's rumor mills 481 00:32:25,277 --> 00:32:30,772 Dennis levine had no recognizable banking skills other than his ability to, 482 00:32:30,774 --> 00:32:33,033 As they used to call it, work the phones. 483 00:32:33,610 --> 00:32:37,779 He had an extra long cord so he could wander around the office 484 00:32:37,781 --> 00:32:41,366 While holding the phone and talking at the same time. 485 00:32:41,368 --> 00:32:44,411 And so it was very, very lucrative for him. 486 00:32:44,413 --> 00:32:46,588 It was like a cash register going off. 487 00:32:48,291 --> 00:32:50,133 [burrough] everybody knew a dennis levine. 488 00:32:50,135 --> 00:32:53,086 The guy at the next desk that you didn't like that talked too loud 489 00:32:53,088 --> 00:32:55,806 About his new summer house or his new boat. 490 00:32:55,808 --> 00:33:01,311 That was dennis levine and he was the template for the sordid young new yorker 491 00:33:01,313 --> 00:33:04,731 Who would do anything to be anything. 492 00:33:06,268 --> 00:33:11,104 [stewart ]boesky was a dream for somebody like levine. 493 00:33:11,106 --> 00:33:16,943 So it was naturally someone that levine would want to cultivate a relationship with. 494 00:33:16,945 --> 00:33:22,490 And a little bit like boesky, he managed to put together a ring of people 495 00:33:22,492 --> 00:33:25,252 Who fed him inside information. 496 00:33:26,580 --> 00:33:32,175 It was very valuable for both levine and boesky to have a network of sources 497 00:33:32,177 --> 00:33:37,347 So that these tips never came from one identifiable source. 498 00:33:38,183 --> 00:33:41,092 They had a very symbiotic relationship. 499 00:33:41,094 --> 00:33:44,771 And they hammered out a very specific profit-sharing agreement. 500 00:33:45,599 --> 00:33:51,019 If levine was the source of a investment by boesky, 501 00:33:51,021 --> 00:33:53,521 He got 5% of the profits. 502 00:33:53,523 --> 00:33:57,034 If he only gave him additional information about something 503 00:33:57,036 --> 00:34:00,871 That boesky had already invested in, he got 1% of the profits. 504 00:34:00,873 --> 00:34:02,989 They both knew what was going on. They were playing the game. 505 00:34:02,991 --> 00:34:05,825 They were both blatantly violating the law. 506 00:34:05,827 --> 00:34:09,329 What ivan boesky did was white line crime. 507 00:34:09,331 --> 00:34:12,382 There ain't no doubt that this was a crime 508 00:34:12,384 --> 00:34:15,802 And they stupidly thought they could not get caught. 509 00:34:16,213 --> 00:34:20,974 Dennis levine was cataclysmic for boesky. This was gonna come crashing down on him. 510 00:34:28,517 --> 00:34:30,809 There is no quick fix fwith no end in sight.. Anc 511 00:34:30,811 --> 00:34:35,688 How available is it? Well, today three public officials took to the streets to find out. 512 00:34:35,690 --> 00:34:37,491 Ellen fleysher watched the results. 513 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,652 [ellen fleysher] you could call it a mixed metaphor, 514 00:34:40,654 --> 00:34:45,415 The pinstriped trousers worn by the us attorney topped by a leather hells angels vest. 515 00:34:45,417 --> 00:34:48,085 The vest supplied by the drug enforcement administration 516 00:34:48,087 --> 00:34:50,870 As rudolph giuliani, and senator alfonse d'amato, 517 00:34:50,872 --> 00:34:53,873 And benjamin baird, chairman of the us parole commission, 518 00:34:53,875 --> 00:34:56,468 Went shopping for crack in washington heights. 519 00:34:56,878 --> 00:35:00,713 I mean, it was crazy. I mean, giuliani dressed as a hells angel. 520 00:35:00,715 --> 00:35:05,260 Us attorney's aren't supposed to do that kind of stuff. 521 00:35:05,262 --> 00:35:09,556 For a hard driving prosecutor in the dawn of his career, the rules were simple. 522 00:35:09,558 --> 00:35:16,238 Be bold, be unapologetic, and keep everyone watching by any means necessary. 523 00:35:17,732 --> 00:35:19,899 [rudolph giuliani] people are not getting adequate sentences 524 00:35:19,901 --> 00:35:22,619 To really deter this kind of activity, this is a terrible, terrible emergency. 525 00:35:22,621 --> 00:35:26,197 I mean, it just showed how kind of singular giuliani was, 526 00:35:26,199 --> 00:35:30,961 As kind of part law man, part tabloid figure. 527 00:35:31,130 --> 00:35:36,091 [michael winerip] what he lacked in natural charm, he sort of made up for in chutzpah. 528 00:35:36,802 --> 00:35:39,878 He took on the entire mob leadership. 529 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:45,267 There was nothing about giuliani that was not extraordinarily ambitious. 530 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:50,438 The commission case goes to trial and rudy wins, much to his credit. 531 00:35:50,891 --> 00:35:54,693 He delivered on his promise, which is rare in life. 532 00:35:55,154 --> 00:35:58,822 [newsreader] at the age of 40, he is described by friend and foe alike 533 00:35:58,824 --> 00:36:02,108 As hard working, dynamic, good at what he does, 534 00:36:02,110 --> 00:36:06,830 And to that list his detractors add: Publicity hound. 535 00:36:08,167 --> 00:36:13,003 [troy] rudy giuliani in the 1980s really is our superhero. 536 00:36:13,005 --> 00:36:17,841 But he doesn't do it in traditional american ways, silently. 537 00:36:17,843 --> 00:36:19,667 He does it in front of the camera. 538 00:36:19,669 --> 00:36:24,097 He does it with lights and camera and action and microphone. 539 00:36:24,299 --> 00:36:26,799 [newsreader] we have come to know the face of rudolph giuliani, 540 00:36:26,801 --> 00:36:29,802 A steady presence in the morning papers and evening news. 541 00:36:29,804 --> 00:36:32,856 More than any other us attorney for the southern district of new york, 542 00:36:32,858 --> 00:36:36,184 Giuliani has sown himself into the fabric of this city. 543 00:36:36,186 --> 00:36:39,529 [winerip] he talked about it in almost a philosophical way, 544 00:36:39,531 --> 00:36:43,983 That I wanna publicize the great work of our office. But that's not what was driving him. 545 00:36:43,985 --> 00:36:48,488 What was driving him was what rudy was doing and his relentless climb. 546 00:36:48,490 --> 00:36:50,990 It's rumored a lot that you've got political ambitions. 547 00:36:50,992 --> 00:36:52,492 Right. I hear it all the time. [laughs] 548 00:36:52,494 --> 00:36:54,327 Right. [laughs] so is true? 549 00:36:54,329 --> 00:36:56,329 No, it's not true. I mean... 550 00:36:56,331 --> 00:36:59,716 The reason I have difficult in completely eliminating 551 00:36:59,718 --> 00:37:03,386 All speculation about it is that I will not say I will never in my entire life 552 00:37:03,388 --> 00:37:05,797 Run for public office because I don't know the answer to that. 553 00:37:05,799 --> 00:37:09,559 [mcdonald] I don't think there's any question that rudy giuliani used his office 554 00:37:09,561 --> 00:37:13,355 To generate publicity for himself so that he could run for mayor, run for president, 555 00:37:13,899 --> 00:37:17,692 Become the lawyer for the president of the united states. [laughs] 556 00:37:17,811 --> 00:37:20,979 He would make a name for himself prosecuting organized crime. 557 00:37:20,981 --> 00:37:23,481 Make a name for himself in prosecuting some public corruption 558 00:37:23,483 --> 00:37:24,532 In the city of new york. 559 00:37:25,026 --> 00:37:26,618 After that he went to wall street. 560 00:37:27,079 --> 00:37:29,821 [randy mastro] back in the 80s there was insider trading. 561 00:37:29,823 --> 00:37:32,365 Back in the 80s there were junk bonds. 562 00:37:32,367 --> 00:37:36,202 Back in the 80s there were some offenses on wall street 563 00:37:36,204 --> 00:37:40,498 That cried out for a prosecution. Yet, prosecutions of wall street 564 00:37:40,500 --> 00:37:44,043 And white collar crime had not been common prior to this time. 565 00:37:44,045 --> 00:37:47,597 [kirtzman] you have to remember that these wall street titans, 566 00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:50,550 They were kind of heroes to many americans. 567 00:37:50,552 --> 00:37:57,107 They embodied american success and ingenuity and I don't think giuliani saw that at all. 568 00:37:57,109 --> 00:38:02,061 I mean, he found the excess repugnant 569 00:38:02,063 --> 00:38:06,533 And he also saw that as another vehicle towards fame. 570 00:38:07,193 --> 00:38:09,694 [andrew ross sorkin] this was his moment to make his name 571 00:38:09,696 --> 00:38:12,905 As the lead prosecutor in new york 572 00:38:12,907 --> 00:38:17,961 And he saw this as an opportunity 573 00:38:17,963 --> 00:38:21,748 Not just to find justice, but I think, in some ways, 574 00:38:21,750 --> 00:38:24,884 To find justice for himself, which was power. 575 00:38:28,807 --> 00:38:32,925 What started as a surge of opportunity had transformed into a zeitgeist 576 00:38:32,927 --> 00:38:36,429 Fueled by money, power and fame. 577 00:38:36,431 --> 00:38:40,433 Tycoons, pop icons, and desperados alike were celebrated 578 00:38:40,435 --> 00:38:45,396 By a fawning public regardless of how they achieved their fortunes. 579 00:38:45,398 --> 00:38:49,275 Americans had bought into a new image of success, hook, line, and sinker. 580 00:38:49,277 --> 00:38:53,654 And fantasized about living that way too, some day. 581 00:38:53,656 --> 00:38:57,408 [announcer] it's another dazzling lifestyles of the rich and famous . 582 00:38:57,410 --> 00:39:00,670 Meet the stars of show business and big business. 583 00:39:00,672 --> 00:39:04,799 Discover how life's winner live, love, and spend their fortunes. 584 00:39:07,003 --> 00:39:11,130 Look. America has always been a country of income inequality. 585 00:39:11,132 --> 00:39:15,927 But in previous generations, those of great wealth had the taste 586 00:39:15,929 --> 00:39:20,023 To hide away and not display themselves. 587 00:39:20,025 --> 00:39:25,695 The 80s really was one of the first times where a lot of the nouveau riche 588 00:39:26,356 --> 00:39:32,485 Felt comfortable displaying that wealth. It was sordid. It was seamy. 589 00:39:32,487 --> 00:39:34,788 Unless, of course, you wanted to do it yourself. 590 00:39:35,207 --> 00:39:37,532 Now they're living in new york 591 00:39:37,534 --> 00:39:40,201 Where it's so clear who are the masters of the universe but to make it even worse, 592 00:39:40,203 --> 00:39:43,329 To make it even more shakespearean, ivan boesky goes to berkeley. 593 00:39:43,331 --> 00:39:48,668 He gives a commencement address. And he says, "greed can be healthy." 594 00:39:48,670 --> 00:39:53,473 [boesky] I urge you, as a part of your ambitions, seek wealth. 595 00:39:53,633 --> 00:39:56,142 [cheering and applause] 596 00:39:57,512 --> 00:40:00,388 And he gave this speech that essentially said, "greed is good." 597 00:40:00,390 --> 00:40:05,393 And of course the speech is enshrined in the movie wall street by michael douglas. 598 00:40:05,395 --> 00:40:08,980 Greed, for lack of a better word, is good. 599 00:40:08,982 --> 00:40:14,494 Greed is right. Greed works. 600 00:40:15,572 --> 00:40:18,823 Does anyone disagree with that? No. 601 00:40:18,825 --> 00:40:22,368 To someone of my generation who knew of berkeley as a hot bed of, you know, 602 00:40:22,370 --> 00:40:27,424 Left wing student unrest, it was fascinating that students at berkeley 603 00:40:27,426 --> 00:40:30,844 Voted to have ivan boesky be their commencement speaker. 604 00:40:31,087 --> 00:40:37,225 And that... It was the one line in the entire speech that drew spontaneous applause. 605 00:40:37,886 --> 00:40:41,855 But do it in a virtuous and honest way. 606 00:40:42,724 --> 00:40:44,724 [burrough] there was a new generation 607 00:40:44,726 --> 00:40:47,193 That desperately needed to hear that this was ok. 608 00:40:47,770 --> 00:40:50,855 They were doing things that their mothers and fathers hadn't done. 609 00:40:50,857 --> 00:40:54,734 Maybe their mothers and fathers had been working on the line at gm or campbell soup 610 00:40:54,736 --> 00:40:57,695 And here they were making nothing, 611 00:40:57,697 --> 00:41:01,583 Just making millions of dollars trading stocks and bonds. 612 00:41:03,453 --> 00:41:04,586 It's all right. 613 00:41:04,954 --> 00:41:06,087 [laughter and cheering] 614 00:41:06,206 --> 00:41:07,955 And to have someone like boesky say, 615 00:41:07,957 --> 00:41:13,470 "it's ok, you're doing good. You're pursuing a full life." 616 00:41:13,472 --> 00:41:16,973 You know, I think there is a generation that really wanted to hear that message. 617 00:41:18,310 --> 00:41:22,145 Fame. Fortune. Adoration. 618 00:41:22,147 --> 00:41:25,223 For an insecure outsider who'd conned his way to the top, 619 00:41:25,225 --> 00:41:28,318 It was everything he'd always wanted. 620 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,070 But he was flying too close to the sun. 621 00:41:31,656 --> 00:41:36,442 This has got a dark side because it ain't possible to dial it back. 622 00:41:36,444 --> 00:41:37,643 Exposure can burn. 623 00:41:38,497 --> 00:41:40,663 [newsreader] dennis levine, a young investment banker, 624 00:41:40,665 --> 00:41:43,491 Was arrested and charged with insider trading. 625 00:41:43,493 --> 00:41:48,746 [newsreader] investment banker dennis levine collected $12.5 million in illegal profits 626 00:41:48,748 --> 00:41:52,583 [dennis levine] I realize I've committed very serious crimes, for which I'm very sorry 627 00:41:52,585 --> 00:41:56,471 [newsreader] levine has pleaded guilty and will turn over almost all of his estimated wealth. 628 00:41:56,965 --> 00:42:00,517 The man responsible for that arrest is rudolph giuliani, 629 00:42:00,519 --> 00:42:03,594 Us attorney for the southern district of new york. 630 00:42:03,596 --> 00:42:07,473 Well, he allegedly obtained information about mergers 631 00:42:07,475 --> 00:42:12,028 That would take place in the future or other types of information 632 00:42:12,030 --> 00:42:15,314 That would have the effect of driving up the price of the stock 633 00:42:15,316 --> 00:42:18,284 And bought large blocks of that stock. 634 00:42:18,861 --> 00:42:22,497 [interviewer] was anyone else involved in this at all? Knowingly? 635 00:42:22,615 --> 00:42:25,992 Yes. At this point, though, I can't identify anyone else. 636 00:42:25,994 --> 00:42:31,289 [journalists] mr. Boesky, any comment? Any comment, mr. Boesky? 637 00:42:31,291 --> 00:42:34,050 So many things are too good to be true in retrospect, right? 638 00:42:34,052 --> 00:42:37,095 If everybody's making fortunes and the champagne is flowing, 639 00:42:37,630 --> 00:42:39,722 You know it's all gonna come to a crashing halt. 640 00:42:47,307 --> 00:42:49,899 [dramatic music playing]