1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,640 So, Sir Jimmy Savile, will you come through the keyhole? 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:06,760 APPLAUSE 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,240 CHEERING 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,040 Hey, marvellous! Welcome. 5 00:00:12,040 --> 00:00:15,360 "I am an animal and I will eat you if I have to." 6 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:16,640 My goodness. 7 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:20,120 Yes, you must give... You must give them all fair warning. 8 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:21,640 LAUGHTER Animals? 9 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,880 No, victims. Victims, yes. LAUGHTER 10 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,800 Hope springs eternal in the breast of the single man. 11 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:29,440 LAUGHTER FADES 12 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,520 When you're full up with fear... 13 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,520 ..you flight, you run, or you freeze. 14 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,640 Mine was always freeze. 15 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,280 So everything, for me, in time... 16 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,400 ..when I was being hurt, was real slow. 17 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,560 So I don't know... 18 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,680 I always used to try so hard to gauge it, 19 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,400 that I went into that room 20 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:21,280 just so I could take seconds to go into the room, 21 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,600 but I always felt like I messed that up. 22 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,720 I think my feeling of being uncomfortable... 23 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,720 ..was...me...me repeating myself 24 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:35,480 and saying, "I did pay for my ticket, I did pay for my ticket." 25 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,840 In my own way, I was trying to say, 26 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,040 "Please let me go, please let me go." 27 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,840 Two men had taken me in there, 28 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,360 and two men were standing outside the door, 29 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:50,960 and I knew that. 30 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,640 Playing to a script, and he knew exactly what he was doing, 31 00:02:09,640 --> 00:02:12,120 knew how to groom people, 32 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,600 how to persuade me to go in the house. 33 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,120 I never thought about it being dangerous. 34 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:18,560 It didn't occur to me 35 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:22,000 cos I never thought of him as a...as a predator. 36 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,440 I tried to push him away a lot, he was a very, very strong man. 37 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,520 His upper body strength was incredible, 38 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:28,840 and I don't know why he stopped, 39 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,680 I don't know what made him stop, actually. 40 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,720 You're just chucked in, you're trapped, you can't move, 41 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,160 you can't do nothing, you're... 42 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,640 ..you're just the prey, ready to be...captured. 43 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:20,280 PHONE RINGS 44 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:35,480 Hello. 45 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,040 That doesn't make sense. I-I cycle, 46 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:43,840 I run, I've run marathons. 47 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:45,920 You're also a heavy smoker. 48 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,800 Your diet consists of takeaways and fry-ups. 49 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,640 So sort me out. 50 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:54,960 It's not like I haven't done enough for the hospital. 51 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:56,920 We know how much you've done for us. 52 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,400 The only remedy is a quadruple bypass. 53 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:04,680 Don't like the sound of that. 54 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,360 For a man of your age, it is a very serious operation. 55 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,320 But I'll get better? 56 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,240 We'd do our best for you. 57 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,720 GIRLS LAUGH 58 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:45,360 Hello, ladies! 59 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,160 What's going on? What's it to you, grandad? 60 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:52,160 Hey, any more talk like that and I'll tell the head. Old cow! 61 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,360 Yeah? Good friend of mine. 62 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,600 I come to the fete here every year. 63 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,120 They're shutting this place down. 64 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,120 They're sending us all back into the community. 65 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,320 Yeah? Nobody told me. 66 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:04,640 And who are you, anyway? 67 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,080 Who am I? 68 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,440 I'm Sir Jimmy Savile. 69 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,480 Oh, you're him! Yeah. 70 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,280 They said you used to come here a lot. 71 00:05:12,280 --> 00:05:16,200 Many jolly japes were had by me and the naughty girls. 72 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,200 What do you mean japes? 73 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:19,800 We'd go for a drive. 74 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,600 Stop at a shop, ciggies, some pop, 75 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,480 and...there'd be fun, fun, fun. 76 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,280 So you could get us ciggies? 77 00:05:29,280 --> 00:05:32,600 I'd get you a bottle of that, if you behave yourself. 78 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:35,360 Come on, all aboard! 79 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,120 GIRLS LAUGH 80 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,440 Ah, "Clunk, click"! 81 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,000 GIRL LAUGHS 82 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,240 Why are we stopping? 83 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,480 What about the ciggies and booze? You'll get 'em! 84 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,840 Scenic spot. No rush. 85 00:06:16,840 --> 00:06:18,280 Budge up. 86 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,480 BEEPING 87 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,640 So, let's get acquainted, eh? 88 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:30,960 What's your...? What are your names? 89 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:32,840 Amira. She's Emily. 90 00:06:32,840 --> 00:06:34,280 Yeah? Right. 91 00:06:34,280 --> 00:06:37,360 Are you sad about the home closing down? 92 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,160 I'd sooner be there than be fostered again. 93 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,760 My last foster parents said they didn't know what to do with me. 94 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:42,920 Oh... 95 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,320 I'd know what to do with you. Come nearer, Amira, eh? 96 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:49,840 Eh? 97 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,400 What are you doing? You know what to do. 98 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,880 What are you doing? Come on, you don't get summat for nothing. 99 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,600 Get off! Come on! Get off! Just make it harder. Stop! Let go of her! 100 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,560 STRUGGLE CONTINUES 101 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:16,720 INDISTINCT STRUGGLING 102 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,720 Oh, don't make a fuss! It's nowt she hasn't done before! 103 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,640 Fuck off! Leave her alone! AMIRA SPITS 104 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,040 We should tell someone. Like who? 105 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,560 The old cow? What, you think she'd believe us? 106 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,200 OK, then, the police - it's not like you're even 16. 107 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,320 What, you think they'd be any different, yeah? 108 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:41,320 Come on, let's go back. 109 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,000 PHONE RINGS 110 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,320 How's life in the cardboard box? 111 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,280 Well, I said I was living out of boxes, not in one, Jimmy. 112 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,200 I think we should carry on - finish our work. 113 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,360 Well, you told me to fuck off. I was hasty. 114 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,440 There is a story that needs to be told. 115 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,680 What's brought this about? I'll explain when I see you. 116 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,040 Well, I'm not schlepping all the way up there 117 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,040 just to hear more evasions and riddles. 118 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,840 You and I are on a journey, Daniel, 119 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:25,720 and the destination's the truth. 120 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,600 God willing, we'll get there. 121 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,400 Right, I've got to go. So, I'll call you. 122 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,080 PHONE BEEPS 123 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,000 I can put them on myself, Victor. All right. 124 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,200 You've seen the priest? 125 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:47,280 No. 126 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,400 Surely you want the Sacrament of the Sick? 127 00:08:57,560 --> 00:08:59,720 It's a massive operation, you know? 128 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:02,600 Get everything off your chest. 129 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:05,600 I would. 130 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,760 Most Catholics would. 131 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:09,600 I'm not most Catholics. 132 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,840 Veteran broadcaster Sir Jimmy Savile 133 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,240 is in intensive care in a Leeds hospital this morning 134 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,360 after having major heart surgery. 135 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,520 The operation had been planned for some time, 136 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,680 and the former DJ, television personality and charity worker 137 00:09:33,680 --> 00:09:37,440 is expected to be moved to a general ward later today. 138 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:41,400 A keep-fit fanatic, 71-year-old Sir Jimmy Savile 139 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,200 has been a regular marathon runner for several years. 140 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,600 CHATTER 141 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:54,520 It's official - Sir Jimmy Savile is indestructible! 142 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,960 CHEERING 143 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,080 Nice to see you, Jimmy! 144 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:06,000 Heart bypass! He told us he was going on a cruise, he lied to us. 145 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,040 And he calls me his best friend. 146 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:09,720 You know what I think about that man 147 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,280 and I doubt we even know half the story. 148 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,480 What do you mean? You know what I mean. 149 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,360 No. Rumours aren't fact, Beryl. 150 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,440 You know, all I ever saw were a bit of messing about with nurses 151 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,360 and teasing and flirting and kissing their hands. 152 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:29,160 And up their arms and on the lips if they don't stop him. 153 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,040 Well, they probably didn't mind. 154 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:32,600 Or they pretended they didn't! 155 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,880 I used to say to them, "Don't let him do that!" 156 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:37,560 But they were either... 157 00:10:37,560 --> 00:10:40,720 ..too embarrassed or scared to resist. 158 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,760 And you know, with some, it didn't stop at kissing them on the lips - 159 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:45,760 he'd stick his tongue in their mouths. 160 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:47,560 Oh, Beryl, that's disgusting. 161 00:10:47,560 --> 00:10:50,080 He gets away with it because no-one else sees it, 162 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,760 only the woman knows. I mean, it's sexual assault. 163 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:55,880 Well, it's not proper sexual assault. 164 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,160 You say that because you're a man! 165 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,320 For a woman, it's a violation. 166 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,680 And if he's sticking his tongue down women's throats 167 00:11:03,680 --> 00:11:05,080 in full view of other people, 168 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,040 what's he doing when he's alone with them? 169 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:19,560 Did he ever try owt on with you? 170 00:11:22,680 --> 00:11:23,800 Once. 171 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:28,720 And he got very short shrift. 172 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,080 Why didn't you tell me? 173 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:40,600 Because you're a decent man, and you like to think the best of people. 174 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:47,360 I reckon that's what most people think of Jimmy Savile 175 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:51,520 because they daren't let themselves think about what the truth might be. 176 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:29,480 Quadruple bypass, for a man of your age to come through that... 177 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,360 It was God's will. Your own willpower must have helped. 178 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,720 When you set your mind on something, you tend to get it, 179 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,280 as with that knighthood you wanted so desperately. 180 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,040 I've told you, that was an unsolicited honour. 181 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:45,640 Yeah, you also told me 182 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,720 that you and I were on a journey toward the truth. 183 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:52,080 Well, I haven't been twiddling my thumbs 184 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:53,480 since I last saw you. 185 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,960 I've been speaking to people, sitting in libraries, 186 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,800 reading everything that's been written and said about you. 187 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,720 Oh, yeah? You seem to have forgotten that I'm a journalist, 188 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,040 and I have no doubt you wanted that knighthood 189 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:07,160 because you thought it would make you invincible, 190 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:08,640 but it didn't. The rumours grew. 191 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,480 More and more people thought that there was something in them 192 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,440 and, at the same time, your career started to tank, 193 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,040 and from being a puppet master, you were losing control... 194 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,040 You are dreaming, Daniel. 195 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,520 The public were falling out of love with you 196 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,720 and then they cancelled Jim'll Fix It. 197 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,520 You must have been furious, Jimmy. Not at all. 198 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,880 Not at all. It was all very amicable. 199 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:32,080 Fuckers! 200 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:38,560 They've mountains of Fix Its stacked up in the office, 201 00:13:38,560 --> 00:13:41,080 enough to last another decade at least... 202 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:42,960 ..and still the highest ratings on the box. 203 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:44,240 Look, I'm as upset as you are. 204 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,720 I mean, fortunately, I have been offered another show. 205 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,480 Not now, not now. Well, bully for you! 206 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:53,480 19 fucking years! I agree, I agree, they should have let us run for 20, 207 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,720 then let us bow out with tributes and fanfares. 208 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,440 So why didn't they? Artistic and programming reasons. 209 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,520 That is fucking bullshit. 210 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,880 You know, Bill Cotton would never have let this happen - 211 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,040 he understood talent. What are you suggesting? 212 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,000 You and I know there are people in this building 213 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,880 who like to talk about me behind my back. 214 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:14,680 Perhaps you're one of them. 215 00:14:14,680 --> 00:14:16,520 You are being paranoid. 216 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,440 Now I have never been part of the Jimmy Savile rumour factory, 217 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,160 not least because I've never actually seen anything myself. 218 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,720 Cos there's fuck all to see, pal! 219 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,880 Well, maybe I should have looked harder. 220 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:32,840 What do you mean? 221 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:34,840 I don't know what goes on in that bloody van that is 222 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,720 forever parked out there, curtains drawn, whenever you're here. 223 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:38,960 I kip in it! 224 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:41,720 The BBC is changing, Jimmy. 225 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,600 Yeah. Well, fuck the BBC and fuck you! 226 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,000 They wanted Fix It to run forever. 227 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:03,280 I decided it was time to...to move on and I managed to retain 228 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,840 my productive relationship with the BBC. 229 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,560 Really? When did anyone from the BBC last call you? 230 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:10,520 I sense the gloves coming off. 231 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,440 You're still being evasive. 232 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,280 What is this? New heart, same old bullshit? 233 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:16,520 Bring it on. 234 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,680 You've not seen me in a real fight, have you? 235 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:20,400 I don't fuck about. 236 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,160 It's shirt off and bare knuckles. 237 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,800 I want to ask you about this man. 238 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,200 Ray Teret, you shared a flat with him in the early '60s. Yeah. 239 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:42,360 Till I found out he was a lying, ungrateful low-life, 240 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,760 told him to fuck off, never set eyes on him since. 241 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:47,000 Really? 242 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:49,840 Never? 243 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:11,480 Hello, stranger. 244 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,280 There better be a good reason for this. 245 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,480 There's an age of consent problem. 246 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,400 As you always said, if they don't show you their birth certificate, 247 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,200 how can you tell? 248 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,160 You don't touch 'em. 249 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,480 You make sure you're careful. 250 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,800 Leave no marks, no witnesses, 251 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:32,920 and make fucking sure they keep schtum. 252 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,120 Always have... 253 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:37,160 ..until now. 254 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:42,360 She was 15. Johnnie Law got involved. 255 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:43,880 For fuck's sake. 256 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:45,800 In the old days, the coppers wouldn't have 257 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:47,320 given her the time of day, but... 258 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:50,520 ..times are changing. 259 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:52,960 It's going to Crown Court. 260 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,040 My brief says I'm looking at six months. 261 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,560 I don't understand why I need to know about any of this. 262 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,160 People know about the connection. What connection? 263 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:02,880 I'm Sir James Savile, 264 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,960 you're some two-bit DJ with a shitty little record shop. 265 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,080 We shared a pad... 266 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,280 ..stuff happened. Nothing happened. 267 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:12,760 Oh, but it did. 268 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,880 There's every reason some smart-arsed barrister 269 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,360 would want to paint a murky picture of my history with young birds. 270 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,880 Jimmy Savile Mark II, they call me in Manchester. 271 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,920 Suppose they ask about my life with Jimmy Savile Mark I? 272 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:32,360 You say nothing. 273 00:17:32,360 --> 00:17:35,360 Oh, yeah? Why's that? Omerta, 274 00:17:35,360 --> 00:17:36,920 Sicilian code, 275 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:41,000 you say nowt to incriminate anyone, including your worst fucking enemy. 276 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:45,600 A code punishable, if broken, by things you daren't fucking imagine. 277 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,920 You look like a man who knows he's running out of road... 278 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,040 ..Father. 279 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,520 So you weren't aware of the charge of... 280 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:07,080 ..unlawful sexual intercourse with a girl aged under 16 281 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:10,360 which was brought against him? News to me. 282 00:18:10,360 --> 00:18:11,840 He was never a friend of mine. 283 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:16,520 Well, you can't claim the same about this man. 284 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:19,280 Peter Jaconelli. 285 00:18:25,120 --> 00:18:27,200 Passed on now. 286 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:28,440 God rest him. 287 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,360 You were friends for years. 288 00:18:33,360 --> 00:18:35,240 Inevitably. 289 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,520 I visited Scarborough often, 290 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:39,800 to see the Duchess. 291 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,160 He was mayor and ice cream king. 292 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:43,960 And also a paedophile. 293 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:46,680 That's an outrageous suggestion. 294 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,720 You're saying that he didn't use his ice cream business 295 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,840 as a means of luring young victims? 296 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:55,640 All Peter wanted to do was put smiles on the faces of kiddies. 297 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,760 People in Scarborough say everyone knew. 298 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,520 Knew or heard rumours? 299 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,560 A young man went to the police, charges were prepared. 300 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:06,880 It never came to court. 301 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,320 Flail away, Daniel! It just seems striking, 302 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:14,240 flatmate and mentor to Ray Teret, a convicted sex offender, 303 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:19,000 friend of Peter Jaconelli, a known paedophile. 304 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,560 They say a man should be judged by the company he keeps. 305 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:25,600 I kept the company of queens, princes, 306 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,560 popes and presidents, didn't I? 307 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,760 Besides, there's only one judge I'm bothered about - 308 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:32,200 and he's up there. 309 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,400 You've got a completely clear conscience, then? 310 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:38,520 What's on my conscience is between me and the boss. 311 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:42,480 But given the age that you are, frail, patched-up heart... 312 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:45,120 No-one lives for ever, Jimmy. 313 00:19:45,120 --> 00:19:47,320 Do you not sense that final reckoning approaching? 314 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,680 I have no fucking fear of it. 315 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:53,600 And if I had my time over, I'd do nowt differently. 316 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,680 Hey, Victor, cop this one for me, will you? 317 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:03,880 Can't, I'm needed in A&E. 318 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,880 Just take this old bird down to X-ray first. 319 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,400 Why can't you? Too old, too ugly. 320 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,960 That's not on. Suppose she heard you! 321 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,800 It's nowt she doesn't know already. 322 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:21,560 You all right, love? Need any help? 323 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,560 Not unless you can fix it for a nurses' pay rise, Jimmy. 324 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,000 I can fix anything, love. Hmm. 325 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:27,760 Hey, don't rush off. 326 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:29,680 I've work to do 327 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,920 and I've been told... Told? 328 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:33,400 Not to be left alone with you. 329 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,640 And who told you that? One of the sisters. 330 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:39,640 Ah, yeah, some miserable, sex-starved old crone. 331 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,040 Please let me past. 332 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:42,920 Told you, I can fix anything for you, 333 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:44,680 I just need something in return. 334 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,320 That's not on! 335 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:50,720 Just a bit of fun. 336 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:54,440 There's no fun in being propositioned by a dirty old man. 337 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,320 We're told to report anything like this now. 338 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,160 Still won't go nowhere - never has. 339 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:02,240 There's always a first time, it might come sooner than you think. 340 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,120 DOORBELL RINGS 341 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,080 What do you want? 342 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,120 Come to see Charlie. 343 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:23,480 I heard he was ill. 344 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,760 He's poorly. He's very poorly. 345 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,160 Anyway, you better come in. 346 00:21:42,360 --> 00:21:46,680 I make no bones about it, I insisted on being here today. 347 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,560 Charlie Hullighan. 348 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,440 What can I tell you that you don't already know about him? 349 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:59,680 And what a privilege it is to pay tribute to him today. 350 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,080 Charlie was, er...older than me. 351 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,440 He knew me from being a babe in arms. 352 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:12,960 As a lad... 353 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,720 ..he was a young man 354 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,480 who my late mother, the Duchess... 355 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,520 ..told me to look up to - 356 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,280 and how right she was. 357 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,960 As head porter, he... 358 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,720 ..his priority was always the patients. 359 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,280 He made people laugh. 360 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,400 When they were in distress... 361 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,120 ..he showed 'em kindness. 362 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,360 He trusted people... 363 00:22:47,120 --> 00:22:49,320 ..and they trusted him. 364 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,760 He always wanted to... 365 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,520 ..see the best in... 366 00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:02,160 ..in any of us. 367 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:03,840 Thanks for coming over. 368 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,360 I...wanted to see how you were. 369 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,240 And there's something else. 370 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:15,480 What's that? 371 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,200 If anyone says anything about me, 372 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,320 down the infirmary, 373 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:26,400 you'd...you'd speak up for me, wouldn't you? 374 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,680 I mean, you must know there's been talk. 375 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,600 Aye. 376 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:36,080 And I've always wanted to believe that's all it were - talk. 377 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,000 It was never anything more than that, Charlie. 378 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,040 Then why do I look at you... 379 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,040 ..and see a frightened man? 380 00:23:49,120 --> 00:23:50,960 I'm the one that should be frightened. 381 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:01,640 So, er... 382 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,920 ..farewell, old friend. 383 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,720 You'll not be forgotten in this world. 384 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,000 Godspeed you in the next. 385 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,760 Are you...afraid? 386 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,320 I'm worried for Beryl, of course I am. 387 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:25,640 Seeing me go through this and... 388 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,200 Scared for myself? Ha. 389 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,080 Death? 390 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,280 Damned if I know what's at the end, Sav. 391 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,000 You do know... 392 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,320 ..devout fella like you. 393 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,440 It's heaven or hell, in't it? 394 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,600 Depending on the life you've lived. 395 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:57,200 ON TAPE: One could talk a long time about why you believe in God, 396 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:58,880 but, to encapsulate it, 397 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:03,160 I believe in God because, if nothing else, 398 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,680 it's a good gamble. 399 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,920 If we went through life thinking that when we die... 400 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,120 PHONE RINGS ..we rot, 401 00:25:10,120 --> 00:25:12,640 and that's it, gone, finito, 402 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,000 er, that's all right... Hello. 403 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,920 ..but it's much nicer to go through life... 404 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,360 ON PHONE: Dan. We have to carry on. 405 00:25:18,360 --> 00:25:21,240 ON TAPE: ..thinking that maybe, when we die, 406 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,240 we go on to an even better life. 407 00:25:30,360 --> 00:25:33,560 What you don't realise, as an atheist, 408 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,320 is...faith conquers fear. 409 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,440 As Isaiah said, 410 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,160 "They who walk in the Lord's path 411 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:46,280 "will rise up with wings like eagles." 412 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,640 But you kept falling. 413 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,080 That vice-like grip was loosening. 414 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,320 And there were no calls for help from Tony Blair... 415 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:54,680 That grinning twat! 416 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,400 You had to literally hand back your set of keys to Broadmoor... 417 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,600 I gave 'em back, my mission was accomplished. 418 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,440 You left the place in chaos. 419 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,480 You'd become a persona non grata at Stoke Mandeville... 420 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:05,880 Never have, never will. 421 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,200 Then why have you stopped going there? 422 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,080 Other fish to fry. It's bollocks, Jimmy. 423 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,840 It's because you're in constant conflict with the new management, 424 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,080 who banned you from wandering the wards without let or hindrance. 425 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:18,960 I was putting smiles on faces. 426 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,200 I've spoken to people there. 427 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:25,000 You told one manager who tried to rein you in 428 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,160 to, "Get your fucking tanks off my fucking lawn." 429 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,880 Because it was my fucking lawn! 430 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,280 You'd lost all control, hadn't you? 431 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,600 Just give me a fucking break, will you? 432 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,000 CHEERING 433 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,240 Hello! 434 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:03,800 And welcome to the very last Top Of The Pops! 435 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,360 CROWD GROANS 436 00:27:05,360 --> 00:27:06,720 It's been going for 42 years. 437 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,920 It belongs to the world now, part of TV history, 438 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,240 and we have a top line-up of pop acts 439 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,520 to see us out tonight in style. 440 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:28,840 That it? 441 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:30,920 Yeah. 442 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,200 That's all you've used of me? 443 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,080 Well, apart from the very end. Do you want to see that as well? 444 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,400 Of course I do. 445 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,120 Clever, eh? The man who started it ending it. 446 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,160 I'm barely on screen 30 fucking seconds. 447 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,280 That decision was made in the production meeting, so, you know... 448 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,800 I wasn't at the production meeting. 449 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,160 This is bollocks, mate. 450 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,320 Sorry, this way, please. No autographs. 451 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,200 Sign out as you go. 452 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,320 Isn't it the case that knowing what you feared most, 453 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,880 on this earth at least, had happened? 454 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:46,520 You'd become a nobody and you made one last desperate attempt 455 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,000 to get back into the limelight. 456 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,920 If you're talking about what I think you're talking about, 457 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,560 then, yes, that was a mistake... 458 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,240 ..but not for the reason you're saying. 459 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,400 JIM'LL FIX IT THEME PLAYS 460 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,800 Ah! Euh-euh-euh-euh! How's about that, then? 461 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:07,920 Goodness me! 462 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,480 Ladies, ladies, it's a good job I've got such a sound ticker, I tell you. 463 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,840 Big Brother, thank you for bringing me all these beautiful ladies. 464 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,440 How are you all? Oh, look, here we are. 465 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,240 CHATTER 466 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,840 Don't all mob me at once, don't all mob me at once. 467 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:22,960 Kevin? 468 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,520 Form an orderly queue. I know who you all are. Oh. Oh. 469 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,320 My word, I'm quite overwhelmed! One at a time, ladies, please... 470 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:30,480 You OK? 471 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:31,640 Form an orderly queue. 472 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,200 Didn't you once say you used to see him around at Stoke Mandeville? 473 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:52,240 Mum? 474 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,960 INAUDIBLE 475 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,200 You never told anyone before you told me? How could I? 476 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,480 ..let yours truly have first dibs with the lady... 477 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:24,840 TELEVISION TURNS OFF 478 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:31,960 You should go to the police. 479 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,280 It was over 30 years ago. 480 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:38,800 I don't care. 481 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:42,760 Go to the police. 482 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:45,960 I'd come with you. 483 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,120 I can't. 484 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:50,520 I just can't. 485 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,040 SHE DIALS 486 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,400 PHONE RINGS 487 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,440 Hello, Crimestoppers hotline. How can we help? 488 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,560 Yeah, I'd erm... I'd like to report a crime, please. 489 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,760 OK, can I have your name, please? It's, erm, Amira Bhand. 490 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:13,040 OK, Amira, I am just going to take a few details if that's OK. 491 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:17,760 Why do you say your...cameo on Celebrity Big Brother was a mistake? 492 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,680 Because it led to certain complications. 493 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,040 What complications? 494 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,280 I'm not going to tell you. 495 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,120 Why won't you tell me what the complications were? 496 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:35,800 Because I made them go away. 497 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,920 And you said it's OK to call you Jimmy? 498 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,920 Jimmy, it is. Everyone calls me Jimmy. 499 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,520 And your date of birth? 500 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,920 October 31st 1926. 501 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:03,640 And, er...quite proud that, in all the time since then, 502 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,240 I've never done anything wrong. 503 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:07,600 Lovely. 504 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,640 And thank you for letting us use this office 505 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,520 here, at the Spinal Injuries Centre. 506 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:12,720 It's my second home. 507 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:18,360 Can I just stress, Jimmy, that you are not under arrest 508 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,640 and you're free to leave at any time? 509 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,080 I'm happy to help. Lovely. 510 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,600 But, before I make you aware of what's been alleged, 511 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,280 I do need to read out the caution. 512 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,640 You do not have to say anything, 513 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,600 but it may harm your defence if you do not mention when questioned 514 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,880 something which you later rely on in court. 515 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,200 Anything which you do say may be given in evidence. 516 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,200 I'll say everything. 517 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,960 So the reason for this interview 518 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,520 is that a young lady who was a resident of Elmwoods Hall 519 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,720 has reported that, on a visit there, 520 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,280 you encouraged her to perform oral sex on you. 521 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,320 Out of the question. 522 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:03,160 This lady claims that you invited her for a drive in your car, 523 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,000 where the alleged incident took place. 524 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:10,840 I used to go there to cheer up unfortunate girls 525 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:15,360 and sometimes they would beg me to go for a run in my Roller, 526 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,400 which I always did with the permission of the head - 527 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:19,960 and they loved it. 528 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,880 But, you see, a few people 529 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,000 will always want to take advantage of my celebrity. 530 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,800 How do you mean? 531 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,760 They'd see me on television, 532 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,320 BBC, Top Of The Pops etc, 533 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,520 and they would throw themselves at me. 534 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,040 And when I tell them, "You can't do that," they'd resent it. 535 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,680 And then, according to them, I'd assaulted them, 536 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,720 which is the one thing a man in my position would not do. 537 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,320 So...you're saying this didn't happen? 538 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:54,840 A flight of fancy. 539 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,800 So we conducted further inquiries at Elmwoods 540 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,960 and we discovered that there'd been other claims 541 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,280 of sexual interaction with the girls there. 542 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,040 Out of the question. 543 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:14,440 Did you ever ask any girl there to perform a sexual act? 544 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,040 Out of the question. 545 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:21,120 You never used your celebrity status to seek sexual gratification? 546 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,440 I've never done that in my life. 547 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,120 Are you sexually attracted to girls under 16? 548 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,560 The exact opposite. 549 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:36,160 But that doesn't stop some people making allegations and threats. 550 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:37,680 What kind of threats? 551 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,160 To go to the papers. 552 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:45,000 And what do you do when you receive these threats? 553 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:49,960 Some of the dafter ones, I actually pass on to my pals in the police 554 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,000 and we have a laugh about it. 555 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,280 Er, others... 556 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,640 I, erm... I have to resort to the law. 557 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,960 Bear in mind, I a doctor of law 558 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:03,560 and, er, if I see a genuine threat to my reputation, 559 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,720 I use my own legal expertise, and that of my solicitors, 560 00:36:06,720 --> 00:36:09,080 to make it go away... 561 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:15,080 ..which it always does because there is never a shred of evidence. 562 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:22,560 Right. 563 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,840 We will end the interview there. Thank you. 564 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,320 You're welcome. 565 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:04,160 When I sit and I go through everything you've written or said, 566 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:08,440 it's like you're constantly giving hints that there's a dark side. 567 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,440 Please elaborate. 568 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:11,680 Erm... 569 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:15,200 You did a game show with David Frost 570 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,720 wearing a sweatshirt with "I'm an animal" on the front, 571 00:38:18,720 --> 00:38:22,520 and when he asked why, you said to, "Give victims fair warning." 572 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,840 You spoke about being feared in every girls' school in Britain 573 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,560 and about using wrestling holds on girls in the back of cars. 574 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,160 And when Frost asked you what you were going to do next, 575 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,640 you replied, "Anyone I can lay my hands on." 576 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,640 You were basically advertising to the world 577 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,160 that you're a sexual predator. 578 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,200 I mean, the truth is pretty well staring us 579 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:41,640 in the face if only we'd look. 580 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,840 What's the point of committing the perfect crime... 581 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,000 ..if nobody knows you've done it? 582 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:55,760 So, what...you're admitting to being a predator? 583 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,520 I'm admitting nowt. 584 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,720 Here we are, in the ring, 585 00:39:05,720 --> 00:39:09,480 and I'm looking at a man who has not landed a single punch. 586 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,800 And I'm looking at a man who, behind the bullshit, 587 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,120 is terrified of what's to come. 588 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:19,240 If you're talking about death, Daniel, 589 00:39:19,240 --> 00:39:21,120 that holds no fear for me. 590 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,400 Need a lift, Vic? No, we're fine. 591 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,200 Who is it? 76-year-old lady. 592 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,960 What happened to her? None of your business, Sav. 593 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,760 She's going straight in the fridge, is she? 594 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,560 No, her family's asked to view the body. 595 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:42,960 Right. 596 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,040 DOOR CLOSES OUTSIDE 597 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,960 DOOR CLOSES 598 00:41:22,240 --> 00:41:23,840 What are you doing? 599 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:25,400 Just checking she's all right. 600 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,640 What do you mean? 601 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,200 For the family to see her. 602 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:30,800 That's not for you to do. 603 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,040 Get out. 604 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:34,920 Don't you dare tell me what to do. 605 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,600 I'm telling you. 606 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,280 Show some respect. 607 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,920 Her family'll be here any minute. Please, leave! 608 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,720 He was with the body, I don't know why or what he was doing, 609 00:41:56,720 --> 00:41:58,760 but he has no cause to do that. 610 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,680 I mean, a body has to be treated with respect. 611 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,400 The dead can't look after themselves, can they? 612 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,360 Their loved ones trust us to do it. 613 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,320 I don't know what you expect me to do with this information, Victor. 614 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:14,240 He needs telling - don't go in the mortuary, don't go near the bodies. 615 00:42:14,240 --> 00:42:17,000 I can't say that to Jimmy Savile. 616 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:21,200 Without concrete evidence, there is nothing we can do. 617 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:22,760 Well, it's wrong. 618 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:31,760 In this book, you wrote about sitting for hours 619 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,080 with your mother's dead body. 620 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:35,760 The happiest of my life. 621 00:42:37,720 --> 00:42:40,520 "She was all mine now," you wrote. 622 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,960 Why would you want to possess someone in that way? 623 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,040 It's called love, Daniel. 624 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,480 Isn't it more that you were finally in control of her 625 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,200 rather than she being in control of you? 626 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,480 And doesn't that suggest something deeply unhealthy 627 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,520 about your attitude to the dead? 628 00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,600 In my work as a porter, 629 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:04,200 I've comforted the dying, consoled the bereaved, 630 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:08,040 and I've never treated anyone who's gone to meet their maker 631 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:12,760 with anything other than humility and respect. 632 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,160 If that's the case, 633 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,960 then why have Leeds United fans at Elland Road 634 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,600 been known to taunt their opponents with the chant, 635 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,760 "Jimmy Savile'll fuck you in the morgue"? 636 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,840 That's a blow below the belt, lad! 637 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,280 And it's all fucking lies! 638 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:32,880 What are you doing? 639 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,160 I've heard enough. 640 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:42,080 This has all been one gigantic waste of time. 641 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:44,760 What about your book? 642 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,480 There are more important things. 643 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:48,800 Like what? 644 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:55,680 If...you've done some of the things that I think you've done... 645 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,320 ..you need to come clean, 646 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,840 not for my sake, but for the people that you've done them to. 647 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,000 But you've no remorse whatsoever, have you? 648 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,280 The only thing that bothers you, or terrifies you, I'd say, 649 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,680 is whether or not you're going to burn in hell for all eternity. 650 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,160 Good luck with it. 651 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,200 Wait, wait, Daniel. 652 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:22,480 We're, we're friends! 653 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:24,920 I'll tell you everything! 654 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:28,840 Please! 655 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,000 But I can't do it here. 656 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,000 What do you mean? 657 00:44:46,240 --> 00:44:48,000 You'll get all of it. 658 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,280 All of it? All of it. 659 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:51,440 When? 660 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,680 I've got some business in Leeds early next week - 661 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,800 I'll call you after that. 662 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:02,200 OK. 663 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:30,160 Beryl. 664 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,040 Catching a train. 665 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,600 Where to? 666 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:39,920 Leeds. 667 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:42,440 Appointment with my quack. 668 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:44,600 Mind if I...? 669 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,520 As if you'd take any notice if I said no. 670 00:45:52,240 --> 00:45:54,920 I don't know what people'll think, mind. 671 00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:58,880 W-what do you mean? 672 00:46:00,240 --> 00:46:02,720 I might as well be sat next to a tramp. 673 00:46:02,720 --> 00:46:05,400 Have you been drinking? 674 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,400 I've had a couple of brandies. 675 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,520 You never used to. 676 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,360 Look at the state of you. 677 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,320 You're lucky most folk don't even know who you are. 678 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:19,560 Of course they do. 679 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:22,640 Anyway-anyway, how are? 680 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:25,720 I'm all right. 681 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,600 It's not much of a life without Charles, 682 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:36,320 but...he'd want me to make the most of what there is, wouldn't he? 683 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,240 Oh, aye, yeah. 684 00:46:38,240 --> 00:46:40,400 Yeah, he would. 685 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,440 And so I try, for his sake. 686 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:51,560 Hello, sweetheart. 687 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,680 Come and have a little dandle on Jimmy's knee. 688 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:56,800 Not allowed. 689 00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,120 Mam says I'm not supposed to sit on strangers' knees. 690 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:01,880 I...I'm not a stranger. 691 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:04,720 I'm Jimmy Savile. 692 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,920 Cody! Come on! 693 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:09,480 Got to go. 694 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,240 Hurry up and be 16! 695 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:19,360 "Hurry up and be 16?" What's that about? 696 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:20,400 Eh? 697 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,560 Why would you say that to a little girl? 698 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:24,880 Just a bit of fun. 699 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,120 Children? 700 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,520 You disgust me. 701 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:18,400 Father. 702 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,680 It's all happening very quickly. 703 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,040 It seems there's nothing more they can do. 704 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:30,520 He wants to go home, but he's asked for the last rites. 705 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:34,160 Really? 706 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:39,440 And you will know the importance of a fellow Catholic 707 00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,560 to bear witness to that. 708 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,240 I know that, Father. 709 00:48:43,240 --> 00:48:45,360 So...will you? 710 00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,040 Can't really say no, can I? 711 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:08,640 Dear Jimmy, before you say the prayer of repentance with me, 712 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:12,840 if there are any sins which have sat heavy on your conscience 713 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,880 and about which you have remained silent, 714 00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:17,720 now is the time to confess them. 715 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,080 I have nothing of that kind I want to confess. 716 00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:58,680 Very well. 717 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:02,240 Through the ministry of the Church, 718 00:50:02,240 --> 00:50:04,240 God grant you pardon and peace. 719 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,880 And I absolve you of all sins... 720 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,400 ..in the name of the Father, 721 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:13,840 the Son... 722 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:16,600 ..and the Holy Spirit. 723 00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,040 You just couldn't do it, could you? 724 00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:01,240 One last opportunity to tell the truth 725 00:51:01,240 --> 00:51:02,840 to your God and maker. 726 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,520 I'll take my chances, thanks, pal... 727 00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:11,200 ..like I always have. 728 00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,680 PHONE RINGS 729 00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,280 ANSWERING MACHINE BEEPS 730 00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:40,600 Er, Jimmy, it's Dan. 731 00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,080 Erm, I haven't heard from you. 732 00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:46,040 Can you call me to set up that meeting in Leeds, please? 733 00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,600 PHONE BEEPS 734 00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,280 BBC NEWS: One of the country's best-known broadcasters, 735 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,360 Sir Jimmy Savile, has died at the age of 84. 736 00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,880 With a career that spanned 40 years, 737 00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,320 he was famous for his show Jim'll Fix it 738 00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,360 and for being the first and last presenter of Top Of The Pops. 739 00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,320 Sir Jimmy was also well-known for his charity work, 740 00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,600 raising more than £40 million. 741 00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,840 Well, many tributes have been paid tonight, 742 00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,880 and Prince Charles said he was saddened by the news. 743 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:32,760 Nick Higham looks back at his life... 744 00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:47,640 You hear someone dies, emotions kick in. 745 00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,680 My emotions were like laughing, happy. 746 00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:53,440 Happy cos...you know, 747 00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:57,200 but then that changed, within a few days, 748 00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,520 then I was mourning for him. 749 00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:04,320 I was never going to get...revenge. 750 00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,960 NEWS VOICEOVER: The old showman would have appreciated the sign 751 00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,160 on the front of the Futurist Theatre. 752 00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,800 Yesterday, Leeds said goodbye to Sir Jimmy. 753 00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,480 Today, it was the turn of his adopted second home 754 00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:15,920 to bid him a fond farewell... 755 00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:22,400 I found the BBC and other institutions extraordinary 756 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:27,080 for not actually talking about the man who we all knew 757 00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:30,680 and wanted to make him into a saint. 758 00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,640 I think it was well-known 759 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:39,400 that there were accusations against Jimmy Savile. 760 00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,400 Welcome to Top Of The Pops! 761 00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,920 CHRIS EVANS: He was a pop pioneer... 762 00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,640 How about that, then?! 763 00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,720 ..and a multimillion pound charity fundraiser! 764 00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,120 He made us belt up in the '70s... 765 00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,040 Clunk, click every trip! 766 00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:15,320 Now, then... 767 00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,880 ..and fixed it for thousands of kids' dreams to come true. 768 00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:23,960 For 60 years, Jimmy Savile has been part of our lives - 769 00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,280 a Great British eccentric. 770 00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:31,640 I thought it was absolutely obscene 771 00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,280 and I didn't watch it on the television, 772 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:37,600 I couldn't bear to watch it, cos I knew different. 773 00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,840 I think, when the story broke, erm, 774 00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:44,080 and I realised that I wasn't the only one, 775 00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:48,400 I wasn't pleased that other people had suffered, 776 00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:50,480 but I was glad it wasn't just me, 777 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,880 and I think that's what gave me the impetus then to go forward. 778 00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:11,960 Most... 779 00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:14,400 ..children... 780 00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,360 ..that are abused... 781 00:55:18,720 --> 00:55:20,560 ..carry their guilt... 782 00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,000 ..carry their guilt for the rest of their lives. 783 00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,880 It really messes with their lives. 784 00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,440 This never stops for any of us, 785 00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,760 whether you're crumpled in a corner, or walking, being straight, 786 00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:38,480 and this is what people need to under... 787 00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:42,680 It never stops. It is a daily fight to... 788 00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:45,720 ..to be able to breathe 789 00:55:45,720 --> 00:55:51,920 and to be able to try your hardest to be your best person, 790 00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,240 when, actually, you always feel like a failure. 791 00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:13,880 Now, if you speak about Savile, it's...in a bad way. 792 00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,480 You know, it's Savile the paedophile 793 00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,800 and that's what he'll be remembered for. 794 00:56:43,240 --> 00:56:46,080 Don't let this ever happen again. Don't... 795 00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:49,520 Please.